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Bunnygirl Cheelai edition!

A new game and two projects will be announced at the Genkidamatsuri event on January 26 2026
Xenoverse 2's Future Saga Chapter 3 is out
FighterZ new balance update is out
Jump: Gathering announced
Gekishin Squadra is out

XV2 FUTURE SAGA CH.3 LAUNCH TRAILER:
youtu.be/FtxSegpS7TI

GEKISHIN SQUADRA TOPPO
youtu.be/2sX9nEP_KIU

FIGHTERZ SS4 DAIMA GOKU
youtu.be/fVtdkNqbiKE?t=96

SPARKING ZERO DLC 3
youtu.be/RsrbOrCaTBU

youtu.be/WYNsTMcQBg8

>Useful links:
rentry.org/dft79

XV2 news:
>Future Saga 3 DLC on the way, release date TBA
>Festival of Universes 3 ended, both Universe 6 and 11 won twice between 4 platforms.

SDBH News/Resources:
>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24
>SDBH Database: www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/
>Deck Autism: rentry.org/sdbhdecklist

DBSDV news:
>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)
>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost
>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills
>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card
>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges
>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar

>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

Kakarot:
>Daima DLC Part 2 will release in early 2026

DB The Breakers:
>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider

>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
http://xenoverse.booru.org/

Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)
Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: 544917314
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>>545139510
>I screwed up the "Last time on /dbg/"
Kill me.
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THAT'S FUCKING IT
BOJACK IS SUCH A RIDICULOUS DUD
FROM NOW ON IM RAGEQUITTING THE MOMENT A TEAMMATE CHOOSES HIM IN RANKED
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>>545114634
Dumbass
Once again, only Piccolo is hard to play on mobile. Any other hero and it's a literal skill issue on your part
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>>545131754
Xenoverse refuses to be interesting, so the most likely outcome is that it's Fu himself, or something Fu indirectly caused, and the experiments he's been doing to himself have made him crazy and irrational and he won't figure this out until it actually happens (or is about to happen). We're gonna have to snap him out of it.

I really want there to be some kind of change, but if Infinite History is anything to go by, it'll only be a slight change in the status quo. Fu will get away with it like he always does and what'll be different is that harnesses the Ultra Supervillain power and uses that to turn people purple now.
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>>545141043
I have to believe that there's some kind of corperate mandate that keeps the xenoverse devs creatively shackled and unable to make good What Ifs. It's not even just in xenoverse, even something like Super Robot Wars' what if scenarios have gotten a lot more shallow these days
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>Ultra ego looks so ugly and it's stupid and-
How about YOU take Toyotaro's position. Now YOU'RE forced to create a form that fits as a rival to Goku's, makes sense in universe, is marketable in the paint bucket hair economy, while at the same time making it look visually distinct in a black and white manga panel.
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>>545141230
>forced
Nobody forced the retard to make an ugly form
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>>545141230
The obvious answer feels like just continuing with the blue evolved lineage, but that's not a thing in the manga. An alternative is to just take Heros' evil saiyan and work with that. I always thought that fit much better with vegeta's character development than ultra ego. His refusal to ever be mind controlled and his disavowment of the notion of saiyans being onthologically evil is really nice
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>Festival of Universes
What the fuck is this piece of shit?
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>>545141351
Blue evolution looks out of place as hell next to blue evolution and you know it.
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>>545141496
Not anywhere in my post did I ever even mention or imply to have mention that dumbass form
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>>545141401
Where do you go from blue evolution? How does it compete with UI?
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>>545139860
i'll kill you cause you had the chance to correct your mistake and didn't
>>544917314
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>>545141230
i'd have given Ego the SS4 eyebrows and eyeliner instead of SS3 brows. check please.

>>545141401
good post.
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>>545141736
That's something i'm honestly a bit less clear on. I think if blue evolution is supposed to be grade 2, I think it would be nice if vegeta was able to get "mastered" blue and a hypothetical super saiyan blue 2, as a redemption for his actions and showing he learned from his mistakes in developing super saiyan from back in cell saga. Tbh I've just always love the name Royal Blue and I'd just like him to attach it to some kind of form in an official sense. It also just makes the most sense to me for Vegeta to be the "super saiyan" guy, he's always been the most saiyan out of everyone with him using great ape and zenkai abusing, even nowadays when he's chilled out a lot his saiyan pride autism is still a large part of his kayfabe, and it's something i'd like to see him develop in a more healthy way
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>>545141401
>An alternative is to just take Heros' evil saiyan and work with that. I always thought that fit much better with vegeta's character development than ultra ego. His refusal to ever be mind controlled and his disavowment of the notion of saiyans being onthologically evil is really nice
I never liked it. It felt tacked on and shallow. It takes all of 5 minutes to accomplish.
How do you make it work?
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>>545142946
idk i've just liked it for the thematics. It hooks into vegeta's character development of him angsting with him trying to find out what it means to be a saiyan and how it should apply to him, evil saiyan accomplished that better than ultra ego did. In terms of actual visual flare, yeah it is kinda lame and in black and white would just look like bootleg blue kaioken
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>>545141230
The difference is that I'm not paid to do that.
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>>545142801
>>545141496
>>545141401
How does Blue Evolution/evil Saiyan contrast with Ultra Instinct, the technique of the angels? They're dead set on making Goku and Vegeta direct parallels. Goku went "Angel" . Vegeta going "Destroyer" is the logical next step from there.
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>>545143124
I have no intention on ever remotely entertaining the idea of goku and vegeta's forms needing to be direct clashes with eachother. Vegeta's just not that kind of person anymore and forcing that feels like a regression of his character. I feel like just having vegeta be the saiyan guy and goku be the more technique oriented guy is more than enough to show their different outlooks without forcing vegeta to be a contrarian for the sake of being one
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>>545143273
But is that as marketable?
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>>545143631
Admittedly, no, it's probably not. Feeding on fandom rivalry like that increases sales
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>>545142356
Considering how many times Super Saiyan 4 was likely mentioned in the board room on how to make it canon, it wouldn't surprise me if Ultra Ego had this design originally but was scrapped to make way for the Daima SSJ4 design. It's a shame because I think this version of Vegeta looks great.
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>>545143731
It's good you're aware. I agree with your conclusions. If we lived in a less stock price driven world, yours would be the correct choice. Current dragon ball will never let Vegeta grow though.
At the end point of Vegeta's redeeming he should be in the minds of everyone else what Goku is currently. The person that makes the whole world is safe when he's around. The guy they know will always come out on top. The hope.
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>>545144109
The thing that annoys me is if you're going to go with the idea that vegeta is this eternal contrarian that doesn't want to do what goku's doing, then why does he have god and blue? Why did this only start seemingly just now?
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The Bardock OVA is so insanely good. I like how the saiyan culture is showcased. Bardock doesn't really care much about Kakarot but even the other saiyans are like "dude you're cold lol". Even when Bardock mentions "Frieza's going to NUKE THE PLANET" the other saiyans are laughing but one of them even goes like "oh shit is he okay" like they aren't COMPLETE savages people say they are but they're not the fully domesticated hunters they were in Super either.

How's Kakarot's rendition of it?
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>>545142356
This actually looks pretty sexy ngl. Give it the UI Omen treatment and you have kino.
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Since people do talk about putting ultra ego vegeta in a game, in terms of techniques what does he even have, exactly? It's been a while since i've read granolah arc but I don't really remember UE vegeta having all that many unique attacks, especially compared to UI
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>>545142356
i don't know about the eyeliner but i like the rest. Also, i think UE should've stayed with the base color hair, or at most get a slight purple hue but nothing beyond that
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>>545081073
Extreme Butoden lead into the development of FighterZ. Hell, if anything, FighterZ is an honorary Butoden game. Maybe the Supersonic Warrior games too, somewhat.
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>>545144109
>Current dragon ball will never let Vegeta grow though.
but that's what frustrates me, we were RIGHT THERE. Vegeta's blue evolved was largely informed by his desire to protect his family and repay his promise to cabba, it already wasn't defined by Goku. Vegeta during the ToP was doing his best to hype up and defend goku because he knew he was the only option left, too. We were right there and it all got thrown away
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Current Dragon Ball in the way YOU want it to develop can't really work with Goku and Vegeta anymore. ESPECIALLY Goku. You need a new cast imo.
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>>545146598
Now, it's not Goku who's the problem. It's Vegeta. He's a big waste of time who just shadows Goku at this point, he should have been moved to Piccolo-like role. Dragon Ball is ultimately Goku's story. If you want a story about someone else, just make an entirely new manga. That's what Oda, Kishimoto, Kubo, Madhima, Shimabukuro and all the Gen X mangakas did.
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You can tell the only reason Vegeta doeesn't grow is because Toriyama and Shueisha do not want him to, they only accepted that he grew to care about his family because the fanbase reacted extremely positive to that part of his character back in battle of gods, not just the japanese fanbase but the global fanbase, it became one of his most defining moments, but that's where it ends as far as they were concerned.

You could almost feel Toyotaro's desperation in to make Vegeta be the star in the Moro and Granola arcs, Vegeta trying to redeem himself for his past brutality by priotizing saving the Namkians, Vegeta going to yardrat to learn spirti fission, instant transmission and hone his craft is given more focus than Goku and Meerus's training to have Goku activate Ultra instinct at will, when it's time for the show down, Vegeta shows up, punches the spirits out of Moro saving the namkikans and putting Moro on the backfoot, and yet in 2 pages Moro evades Vegeta, eats 73, kills the hedgehog guy for good measure, gets even stronger and knocks Vegeta out with his own technique dismissing it as a basic chi blast, this is also the first time Big Bang Attack has been seen since he used it to kill Android 19 in canon.

Then the Granola arc happens, Beerus finally comes clean to him that he ordered Freiza to kill the saiyans, then Beerus opts to train Vegeta in destruction techinques resulting in Ultra Ego, seeing Granola as a past victim of typical saiyan genocide, Vegeta doesn't so much as try to reason with Granola but try to dive into his Majin Vegeta mindset to kill him with Ultra Ego and keeps walking into Granola's attacks and pressuring him to hit him more until he pushes Granola so far that he starts up a suicide attack intending on killing himself and Vegeta, almost like accepting death as punishment for being part of a genocider Vegeta doesn't even attempt to resist
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Goku's story ended 30 years ago when he flew away with Uub. They should end this zombie franchise if "Dragon Ball is ultimately Goku's story".
Innovate or end it.
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i posted this a bit late in the last thread so i'll mention it again. someone is adding Skill Capsules to Sparking Zero and intentionally avoiding skills with camera or audio glitches he can't fix, so jank should be minimized.

>>545145335
>Also, i think UE should've stayed with the base color hair, or at most get a slight purple hue but nothing beyond that
adjacent thought but this is why i REALLY wanna see an Ultra Ego -Sign- form at some point. black hair, purple eyes, and the purple aura would look super fuckin' cool.

>>545143901
jeez. it's crazy to think Daima SS4 might've been in the works long enough for it to have been a consideration when drawing Ultra Ego.

>>545143124
i hoped Blue Evo was Vegeta's "UI -Sign-" equivalent and that he would combine actual UI -Sign- with Blue to achieve a MUI equivalent form without actually going full white hair and no thoughts head empty. lol
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>>545147163
spirit fission was so dumb, unlike instant transmission which has become a goku staple, spirit fission didn't even really work against the guy he got it specifically for and it's never shown up since, it was like narrative foreshadowing to how ultra ego would just be shittier than ultra instinct
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>>545147321
this, DBColorZ, and the guy who's been building a makeshift CaC suite into the game are a few projects that really give me hope for the future of Sparking. Team Densetsu, too. using DBColorZ to give everyone a fluffy hair variant is based. i swear this game should've launched with Colors and a Color Creator system. it's like the devs never played DB FighterZ or something.
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>>545147321
>no thoughts head empty
But that's what ultra instinct is.
>>545147516
Floof is based
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>>545147262
>too scared to reply directly
KEK WHAT A BITCH
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>give my retarded opinion a (You)
Nope. Beg more and I might.
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>>545147516
floofy caulifla looks really good, suprised I haven't seen much art like that
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my issue with the idea of Goku being put out to pasture is the only person who can reasonably replace him is Gohan, and we already tried that. I also think Gohan is an inherently less interesting main character due to a lack of a lot of the thematic parallels Goku has like nature versus nuture and the fact that he built himself up from basically nothing. Gohan's over reliance on rage boosting is really annoying too and it keeps being repeated over and over again
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>>545146598
>You need a new cast imo.
How will this be possible without DB losing relevance?
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>>545148084
The only reason Gohan was ever the main consideration is he was built up over several years. Goku would never be done away with in a single arc. It'd be a slow process.
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>>545147649
right, i just inferred that there's levels to it. -Sign- is head mostly empty, Mastered is head fully empty, and True is like -Sign- but stronger because Goku is getting better at using it without fully emptying his mind and losing the advantage that sometimes comes from channeling his emotions.
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>>545146598
i disagree because Heroes was basically exactly what i wanted from Dragon Ball and they were making it work with TWO Goku's and Vegeta's. lol
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>>545148249
have goku show up every once in a while
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>>545148084
You forgot the dynamic duo
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>>545135041
Would instantly become the best Goku mod ever.
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>>545149212
I thought the random broly spam was really dumb, but otherwise Heroes felt like the only piece of this franchise that was actually trying and not just giving the bare minimum
>>545149273
if Goten and trunks want to be the main character then they should focus on making Goten an actual character in the first place
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>>545128932
>>545129164
So how should I distribute my points?
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>>545147891
>literally shits his pants in fear I might find his post
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There is one critical element that has been missing. DRAGON BALL needs a sexual punch up. We need a female lead character that Uub can bang throughout the whole series.
>but I hate women! women just slow shonen down!
Thats where youre dead wrong. See, one of the problems with modern shonen is that it lacks a certain eroticism. What if we toss Pan into the mix, that way whenever Uub isn’t out fighting bad guys, he’s back on Earth peforming OUTRAGEOUS sexual exercises on her supple young body.
Now here’s the twist, and there is a twist: We show it. We show all of it. Because what’s the one major thing missing from all shounen these days? …Full penetration. Guys, we’re gonna show full penetration and we’re gonna show a lot of it! I mean, we’re talking, you know, graphic scenes of Uub really going to town on this hot young quarter saiyan. From behind, 69, anal, vaginal, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, all the hits, all the big ones, all the good ones. Then he finds battle again. He’s out busting heads. Then he’s back to Earth for some more full penetration. Kicks space ass, back to Earth, full penetration. Combat, penetration, combat, full penetration, combat, penetration. And this goes on and on, and back and forth, for 90 or so episodes until the series just, sort of,ends.
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>>545150040
Toriyama, kill this man
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Didn't read
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>>545150129
Toriyama drew Lady Red. If he could have gotten away with popo/roshi raping Bulma on panel he would've.
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Post em
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Black Freeza is going to hakai Uub off existence and make Goku go Ultra Instinct 2
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>>545150759
Can't have a non-saiyan afterall
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Dragon Ball Super (and to a lesser extent , Daima) wants to have its cake and eat it too. It wants the recognizable Goku and Vegeta they have always had and have them to act and look as their most iconic iterations. It wants the dumb Goku who's still a student despite Goku becoming a true master by the Cell Arc. It wants the Piccolo sacrificing himself for Gohan despite Gohan being a grown ass man. It wants the Gohan that gets angry and gets serious despite him retiring from the battlefield at age 20. It wants the Vegeta that seethes over Goku despite Vegeta acknowledging Goku as the true numbah wan.
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Didn't read, imagined videl dancing naked
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I cannot be assed to give a single fuck about uub. He's just gohan but again. At the very least, Gohan is straight up goku's kid so it makes sense for him to have the torch passed to him, but kid buu was just one of many random villians goku faced, and this point is especially bad by super given goku seems nowhere near ready to retire and kid buu isn't the ultimate villian he's faced anymore
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Goku wasn't Roshi or Gohan's kid
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Would it really take long to update every model to look as good as the DLC ones?
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>>545151338
Roshi was at the very least extremely old and deeply retired by that point, Goku is not. I mean he's in his 60s or something by EoZ but due to saiyan biology and all that he's still in his 20s basically
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I'm not tired of LoL, but I'm already tired of Gekishin...
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>>545151338
also, Goku very much was Granpa gohan's kid. Not biologically but he very much did adopt him
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>>545151063
Dragon Ball Super is just what modern Toei or Toyotaro thinks Dragon Ball Z was: transformations, tournaments, time travel, Frieza, androids, and Broly
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>>545151403
There is not a single good Xenoverse model, including DLC.

Half the reason I personally want xv3 is so they can have a clean break with a modern look
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>>545151856
broly and superhero were largely toriyama productions, though
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Everything I like is the result of Toriyama
Everything I don't like is the result of anybody except Toriyama

Now that Toriyama is dead, I can drop the pretense and just hate everything that comes out. Lucky me!

Also the cell games were supposed to be the end of Dragon Ball and Abridged is the only version of the show that I've seen.

I'm a real fan and you are not.
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>>545151501
Goku has old man marks on his face during the EoZ
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>>545151403
theoretically yes but practically no because Revamp Team have already done a lot of that, so you could just work a deal out with them like Bethesda does for the mods they include in their Anniversary Editions and like Rockstar have done with the GTA RP launcher or whatever it is.

the new models are objectively better and are more expressive, but what a lot of fans really want at a glance is for character to be less glossy and shiny and cheap looking, and most of that is determined by something called a dyt files. you can see what i mean in the image you posted because Goku's model is signficantly glossier and more plastic looking than Broly's. here's a couple examples from Revamp though. this is vanilla Kid Buu.
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Goku is less central to dragon ball than Tanjiro is to demon slayer or shinichi izumi is to parasyte.
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>>545152725
and here's Revamp Kid Buu. notice how much better the model looks immediately with a better dyt? they've done more than just that, like tweak his facial expression, but the lighting change is the most impactful and noticeable at a glance. especially mid-battle.
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>>545152789
Goku is central in a weird way that his specific personality quirks facillitate the plot happening in ways that can be repeated. People would get pissy if gohan kept getting overconfident or something but Goku being Goku and giving the villian another chance is just kinda what he does
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>>545152914
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>>545152969
That's how protagonists work though.
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>>545149212
>>545149414
>Heroes
wtf
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>>545153404
Not always, a lot of the times the developments of the plot are out of their hands and they can only be reactive. But something like Goku immediately electing to not kill the androids early is something goku specific
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>>545153536
You're describing a proactive protagonist. That's a basic concept.
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>>545153282
vanilla Baby
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>>545153638
I wouldn't much describe the idea of goku deciding to not go after the androids proactive. But my point is more that no one can really replace goku because goku provides a specific narrative niche that no one else in this series can. Vegeta used to be able to do it as his pride also faccilitated plot developments, but nowadays it's really only goku who can do it
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I like the Buu Saga. One of my favorite arcs.
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>>545153784
Revamp Baby
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>>545153282
>Left
Who is this random guy. He looks like a random guy
>Right
Now THAT'S a Saiyan warrior
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>>545153282
Now give us a topless saiyan female with floofy hair for comparison
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>>545153536
Literally fighter there thought this was a good idea. That isn't Goku specific. That's everyone with a warrior's pride.
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>>545154334
he's still the guy who brought it up first, you'd imagine things would go a lot differently if he didn't shoot bulma down. Vegeta would have shot bulma down anyways because that's androids vegeta but as I said, he's not that guy anymore
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gohan>broly>vegetta>trunks>goten>goku
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The worst part of XV's character designs is how overly-muscular everyone is. Feels more like I'm playing one of the particularly off model episodes of the anime or just straight up Mexican fanart, ESPECIALLY whenever Goku is on screen.
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>>545154662
...in the balding cuck competition
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what's your lore reason for that one time when goku got increasingly super buff during the duration of the frieza fight after he unlocked super saiyan
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>>545154907
Uncontrolled saiyan rage buff + SS
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>>545155005
I thought rage was supposed to be a explicitly gohan thing
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*sniff* *sniff* I don't want a DB remake
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>>545155094
Apparently not since trunks can do it too, but I meant because he was so fucking mad his power wasn't in check so got a RAGE buff, not a SS rage
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>>545155094
Getting angry makes your muscles inflate with no power boost because it looks cool
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>>545155172
To me it sounded like Daima wasn't made for it, but it matched up so well with the time that they made it anyways.
>"It wasn’t made specifically for the anniversary, but I’m really glad that it ended up coinciding with it. It’s incredible how long the series has lasted, but for us, it’s always been about moving forward—thinking about the next project, and then the one after that. That’s how we got here. When you try too hard to make something fit a specific milestone, it doesn’t always go as planned. But this time, things just naturally fell into place."
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>>545154089
i agree. i forgot to mention that comparison also includes their CaC overhaul so it has better facial proportions and way better hair.

>>545154202
if only i could. i'm just grabbing stuff from their Discord.
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>>545155172
I expect the new db thing to be small side content no matter what, for whatever reason it seems anime is mostly allergic to doing large long running series these days. Not even Gundam can manage it
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>>545149702
If you care about optimizing, the anon who posted the chart has about as close to an optimal build as it gets. The chart shows how HP stocks are becoming way more profitable to invest in with the increasing level caps; you can't go wrong with dumping 200 points into HP and your favorite damage type. How much you invest into ki/stamina is up to your preference.
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>>545155172
super won
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>>545155457
MONSTER ZAMASU
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>>545156045
Zamasu with small pupils looks rare
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>>545156378
So...Do Chronicles, Hype and Reekdom know anything yet or is this just engagement bait?
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>>545156378
that would be the most disappointing announcement they could make
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>>545152124
TARZANly, Orange Piccolo and SHIThan Beast were Iyokel's Nostalgic & Torishimian byproducts, not CHADCHADyama's.
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>>545151403
He's...in control? How is that possible?
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>>545151403
I feel the same way about XV's newer models that I do about Super Divers and late-SDBH. They look great, a vast improvement compared to how they previously looked (maybe not as big of a gap in Xenoverse's case), but I wouldn't want a mid-late 2020s DB game to look like that.
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so what even happens in super divers? I haven't heard anyone bring it up
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Toriyama is a Yesman and a terrible greenlighter who lost his go-getter groove after his seethe over Evolution disappeared over the years.
He went from "hold my beer" to "fuaaaak i just wanna flex and make a magical poop adventure comic again".

Had Torishima didn't put a ban on Dragon Ball animanga production in the 2000, Nakatsuru should have taken over Bird Studio for thd Toriyama Estate and make the GT sequel he wanted to see and not what south americans spics' misplaced nostalgia envisioned.
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>>545156587
All of them get their information from Sofian LeGEEK and other frenchie insiders.
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>>545156045
Coomer Zamasu
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Evolution really wasn't that bad. Yes, it's a B action slop movie.
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>>545158137
It'd be a forgettable B movie if it wasn't trying to be dragonbal, but as something attempting to be dragonball it's just kind of bad
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>>545157702
There are french insiders? I know that attention whore that's claiming Xenoverse 3 is coming soon but he's got no credibility.

And Sofian is the arab looking faggot that had that "interview" with the Sparking Zero devs but confirmed nothing that wasn't already obvious. Also
>The game cover is already ready and takes the style of the old drawings, potentially those of Nakatsuru.
lol
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>>545158314
True. Tekken had a shit live action movie too. Just weird man people get so anally autistic over Evolution when like almost every video game/anime had a shit live action adaptation.
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The reaction to One Piece live action makes me think Evolution (while being unfathomably worse) would be loved and defended if it came out today
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>>545158770
I think it's a combination of it being really bad, and that dragonball evolution being the first real piece of new big dragonball content since GT. Most adaptations of videogame properties wouldn't even be given as second thought but the fandom was fiending for anything by that point
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>>545158920
I don't like what I saw of one piece live action, but it at the very least was attempting to directly adapt the story of one piece. DB:E is just dragonball highschool AU fanfiction
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>>545158932
that is a good point. makes sense. but meh it's still whatever to me i don't really have the acoustic rage most people have for it. DB ended pretty nicely and we got Son Goku and his Friends Return as some fanservice. I don't think anybody really expected DB to return or really (why would they want it to).

>>545159068
I don't really get the love for Shameless. It feels like strawman the show.
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>>545155172
>>545156378
>this isn't the 40th surprise!
>it's Season 2!
This will happen and while smarter people will learn to not trust Iyoku, many idiots will excuse this because the second announcement is likely remake slop or another spinoff towards newgen kids.
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Defending GT wasn't enough, now you have to be so contrarian that you're going "ACKSHUALLY Evolution is NOT BAD okay???"
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>>545159281
I actually haven't seen that many people autistically mad about Evolution. Most people just acknowledge it's bad but no more. If you want people being autistic i've seen plenty of bad faith discourse over super. Like that shitass plauge of gripes video that claims japan just HATES tien
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>french insiders
Just make sure they're not also browsing Jeuxvideo.com lol
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>>545159328
>is likely remake slop
>franchise still not making any progress because we have to wait for this to be over
>blood and certain gags get censored
>good fights get replaced with spastic seizure inducing nu-anime battles
I...I don't want that
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>>545159751
Meh I've seen SOME autistic rage over it like people talking about the Evolution game like it's pure shit through autistic reasons even though it's a shin budokai reskin but their criticism is REEEE WHY DOES GOKU LOOK LIKE THAT THIS GAME SUCKSSSSSS
On a side note, you guys know any good DB retrospect youtubers that aren't pure garbage?
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>>545160367
Eren Yeager...
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If every anime live action succeeded maybe there would have been a push for a Jump Unite movie, that push nowadays is for Nintendo fans wanting a cinematic universe
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>>545160858
Any person wanting to watch anime youtubers deserves nothing but garbage.
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>>545162473
It's not all bad. I like it when they do deep dives like Dungeon Chill does. Too bad most DB youtubers are just "oh this game has 5 modes and you have 4 attack buttons oh and it's hard and plays like [unrelated] dragon ball game." shit fucking sucks.
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This lives in my head https://youtu.be/L_tQ9Six0ZM?t=23m39s
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>>545163182
Is that where the shallot clip comes from?
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>>545156162
what do you mean?
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Nice dialogues lmao.
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>>545169213
why would cell's namekian cells specifically be the thing that gets him out early. By the logic dbm gives, anyone should be able to get out if they're able to vibrate any part of their body extremely quickly (still not sure how this invalidates time stop but whatever)
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>>545169213
>goku immediately teleports out of the protection bubble and gets frozen despite knowing how it fucking works now
salagir REALLY wanted him to job to hit, huh
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>>545141230
Low tier falseflag but made me laugh so keep going
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>>545169386
Don't think too hard about it.
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>moved from getting roughly 50/50 winrate to consistently losing 80% of games despite being in the same rank
wtf is wrong with Squadra matchmaking?
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>>545159636
>GT out of absolutely nowhere
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>>545156991
It doesn't even have a story of it's own. Just Daima/Z retellings so far.
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>>545155336
Lol I noted this and DBSHype blocked me
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>>545176764
Geekdom and Supachronicles are more loud/open about their retardation so DBShype flies under the radar a lot, but he's just as guilty as the two of them.
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>>545155668
It's been a slow burn going starting more than a decade ago. Continuous stream of content is the format children prefer. But there's less and less of them in Japan, so shonen anime are now made primarily for adults.
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>>545172623
who exactly is this even for? What's the market?
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Transplant has been successful
The only thing I want to do left is cut out a bit more skin from underneath the bottoms to reduce clipping
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>C rank hit does more work than both S ranks

Rankings are a joke in this game
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>>545180260
You've done Toriyama prod, anon.
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Do you prefer Cha La Head Cha La or We Gotta Power? I'm always a We Gotta Power dude and wish the great saiyaman arc was longer.
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>>545182084
I've honestly never liked Head cha la that much, it's just a very weird song in terms of melody. I also never grew up with it, so no nostalgia either
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>>545182204
We Gotta Power should've had some motifs for Super Heroes imo.
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>>545182084
Cha La for me, though We Got Power is superior visually.
>>545182204
Really? For me it's just very optimistic and uplifting.
>>545182678
Super Hero not tying Saiyaman in anyway was a crime.
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>>545179894
People who want to play DB arcade gacha game and collect cards I guess. Though I feel like it'll never reach the highs of Heroes.
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>>545183253
As much as I dislike super divers, Heroes probably did need a reboot to maybe redo the lore a bit and restart the story, meteor mission was kinda ass after all.
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>>545183367
Well there's no lore at all now so I dunno about that.
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>>545180680
Because there was no rank reset after Season 0.
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>>545183421
Yeah i'm not saying this is where it should have gone, but I guess this is what those 80 year old execs think the fans want
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>>545182084
Cha-La is great, but overexposure killed it.
I'm speaking as an old fan here, but we did used to have a lot of varied OPs for the games and stuff, but it felt like we got a lot of cha-la in very quick succession, and it became the ONLY song a lot of materials would use. I remember it went something like
>Yo! Son Goku & His Friends Return
>Battle of Z
>Battle of Gods
>Xenoverse
All used it, and I got really sick of it because everytime you launched those last two, you would hear that new version of Cha-La start up immediately with the lyrics before you could skip (not helping things was that, when Xenoverse launched, I was sick to the point of being continually nauseous, so now I associate that rerecording of Cha-La with wanting to vomit).

But what made me realize it was overused was a game from before all that. It was Sparking! Neo back when it launched in Japan. I had imported it, and you want to know what was the first thing you'd hear?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPqCeKnNk4
The song doesn't fucking fit. At all. It's the rare instance where I hands down prefer the English opening song which is not a real song at all, but it just fits so much more than CHA LA.
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>>545181374
You've really motivated me to finish this, and I actually learned something in the process in regards to how to deal with those dreaded model crashes
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9yuuffkop6gm95q/XAC.zip/file
You can stick it in your data/chara folder
In case you don't know, you can still run some simpler functions on outdated patcher, mainly simple replacers, just keep trying to boot the game and delete patches in XV2PATCHER folder the error mentions until it lets you through
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>>545183231
huh now that you mention it, yeah what the fuck senile toriyama.
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>>545183821
It's probably because the movie wasn't originally supposed to have gohan in it at all. But like, having a movie with the premise being superheroes without even so much as thinking of saiyaman is honestly even weirder
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>>545183790
You should place it on basedmods
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>>545183720
I'm still mad they just changed the Sparking Zero OP at the last second for the ToP opening and it just didn't fit at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apq6dsq1Y3k
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>>545184757
PEOPLE OF CONTON CITY
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>>545184709
REALLY NO NEW KAGEYAMA SONG? I think it's because he changed studios right?
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>545184757
>final bout that high
Shit bait
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>>545184891
someone needs to replace the audio of that with her getting fucked, it'd legitimately be more entertaining to hear a hot mic plapping session over that screeching
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>the biggest fight not one of the best kageyama tracks
shit response
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>>545178783
NO BEJITA DONT LET THE DARKNESS INTO YOUR HEART
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>>545185923
>AAAAAAAAA STOP TRUNKS NOT NOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKING AN ANN... AN ANN... ANN AAAAAAAAAA
>*PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP*
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>>545184757
Kino but Fusions is S
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>>545185692
>Great game that high
Yes.
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that's like saying taiketsu is as good as BT3. Fuck off and die
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Shin Butoden > Ultimate battle 22 > Butoden 3 > Butoden 2 > Buu Yuu Retsuden > Hyper Dimension > Butoden > final bout
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Can this dude just shut his trap? Lol
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>>545178783
Xenoverse if it really keyed and locked in
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>>545188894
Taiketsu deserves to be modded and fixed up
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>>545190457
Actually it deserved to be forgotten, rarely mentioned as a cautionary tale
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I accidentally made a DB Metroid-Vania/RPG called DBXD, what do
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>>545189905
He's basically Victory Uchida but for the west
Itachi, Slowplays, Rikudofox and those other fucking grifters can suck it too, I can't count how many times I've seen something pop up for xenoverse 2 only for it to be a nother shitty mod passed off as a legit DLC I'm not sure if Inbetweengamer does this but I've run into him multiple times online and even done a few sessions with him, it's so weird to play with a modded character on the switch and now switch 2 and the game not shit itself, Rikuodofox i've played with too and he kinda sucks when it comes to dealing with enemies. for example Broly vs Broly quest, I took Goku and Vegeta down easily and he was getting his ass plapped by Z broly on the other side of the map. How does one lose to the AI in this game when it's just you and them?
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i feel a little embarrassed that you don't get what it means but should I be surprised? not really.
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>>545192240
>victory uchida
wow i didn't know he was an actual person lmfao I thought he was just a gimmick character in cyber sleuth...
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>>545193070
He's literally the editor for the Super manga. Which explains a lot.
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>>545190651
Nah, i just want that Killer Instinct Dragon Ball fighter get realized.
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HAVE ANY OF YOU GUYS SEEN RIBRIANNE AT THE FESTIVAL OF UNIVERSES YET
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>>545192240
No, Fartdom, you aren't Victory Uchida, you are hardly qualified to be a human being.
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>>545193462
Nope, but I have seen gogeta and lots of female cacs with zangya's clothes
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>Goku the fighting autist who understands techniques and counters them
>Makes a mistake so stupid even Goten knew it was a bad idea
Salagir still showing how much he loves Goku... What is this time stop? It must've been active for hours now.
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>>545197273
I still dont understand why this technique is exclusive to those of namekian birth. Cell doesn't even HAVE antenna to wiggle
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>>545197397
>I still dont understand why this technique is exclusive to those of namekian birth.
So pic related, and only him, can crush XXI next time they fight.
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>>545198561
yeah but it seems to be *just* vibrating something really fast, are only namekians capable of wiggling for some obscure lore reason?
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>>545197397
He's vibrating his wings.
All the "technique" requires is something to independently vibrate it seems.
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>>545199502
why couldn't goku vibrate his other finger while he was instant transmissioning, then? I also went back to check and salagir doesn't actually explain why the vibrating stops the time stop? or why it has to be his antenna specifically?
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>>545199502
The counter is attributed to Namekian cells, so far.

>>545199776
>or why it has to be his antenna specifically?
Or how Cell can do the antenna vibration without them.
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I feel like it would be so simple to say "oh yeah all you need to do is make a shield with your ki, like vegito did with buu" and it would've been fine but instead we have this
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now she’s ruined
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>>545201246
videl's 25th TB cut is genuinely one of the worst in this entire series. I wonder if the bit where spopovich grabs her by the hair anyways despite cutting it was an intentional gag.
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>>545200270
For someone who likes to pretend to know about science and force it in DB Salagir should be aware that if everything outside those bubbles is frozen in time the air should vibrate and thus sound wouldn't reach from one bubble to another
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All I know about DB Multiverse is that I want to FUCK Phipsil bareback mating press
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>>545202285
Everything about that universe is so weird to me because somehow gray goo just invalidates everything it touches. That shit is somehow stronger than a black hole when it comes to killing broly despite assumedly being easily dispatched with a kiai or ki shield
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Putting 21 in a full Nelson and fucking her bareback before slamming her down into mating press
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>>545141230
Ultra Ego is overhated.
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>>545139510
Bunnygirl Cheelai is what Toriyama would have wanted
>>545202457
It's because it's boring sci fi shit so of course it's invincible because 'le smart'.
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Pixiv needs to give free users the option to mute more that one artist
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>>545191419
Post it, it sounds fun
>>545178783
That's pretty cool
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Did Toriyama have some sort of guro fetish?
Poor videl just got the Vegeta treatment
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>>545197273
You can't fucking be serious.
>>545197397
I still don't understand why this technique even works, it makes no sense
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>>545205401
That should have been a proper revenge drive for Gohan, but alas he got Dobson'd by Babidi instead
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>>545205401
>that fucking blood curdling screech she does in the dubbed version of Z
it affected me badly as a kid, a fear in the pits of my stomach
but now as an adult...a furious boner, what the hell happened to me...
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>>545205401
That's not Guro, that's ryona.
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This is some real projection, buddy.
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>>545205547
I like how we're not even given the thought process as to how piccolo thought of this. just "well he was able to counter the mafuba so surely he was able to counter this!" Didn't stop the stone spit back in buu saga lmao
>>545205401
There's very few things I actively hate in dragonball but videl versus sopopovich is one of those, it just feels actively meanspirited. Not even vegeta gets his ass beat by kid buu as videl got her as beat by spopovich
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Videl basically just got the same kind of beating Gohan used to get. The reaction to that scene is exactly why Toriyama doesn't have female fighters. You have to treat them with kiddie gloves.
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>>545206028
I mean my criticism is more that it doesn't actually serve anything. Videl getting his ass beat was buying time for Goku and stuff like that, and even after he got his ass beatings he would get right back up after a senzu and keep going. Videl got turned into a housewife and never fights again
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>>545206126
Gohan getting his ass beat, rather*
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>>545206126
...typo there, anon?
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>>545206302
Yeah, I was talking about Gohan. Even then stuff like him getting his neck snapped by recoome was quick. Videl just gets beat on over and over again and has her teeth knocked out and everything, It's horrific and goes nowhere
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Pounding videl's ass so hard she'll need the dragon balls to fix her colon
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>>545206028
The worst thing that happened to kid Gohan was getting his neck broken.
He wasn’t getting brutally beaten for multiple pages like Videl did
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>>545206501
This but Son Goku, your hero
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Don't do that.
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It's what he deserves
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Why are Son Family women like this?
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>>545206601
Pounding videl's ass so hard she'll need goku to fix her colon?
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>>545206586
I feel like the only comparable thing to the videl beatdown was vegeta getting beaten on by frieza. At the very least you can argue it helps show in detail how fucked they are against frieza and his unhinged sadism. No one even fights Spopovich other than videl, he just explodes
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>>545206586
He got some extras in the anime
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>Multiverse
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>>545207092
I think this was cut when I last rewatched kai, why did vegeta just start beating gohan's ass after they got brought back from namek
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Making Goku, your hero, a panting, sweaty, violated mess who just got his shithole remodeled like a common whore, to the point that the Dragon Balls will be needed to fix it
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>>545207225
Nice try Ridley
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>>545207092
I like how anime bulma directly witnesses vegeta do this and she's just like "yep, this is the guy im gonna have unpretected sex with"
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>>545207201
I'm going to assume zenkais.
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>>545207559
going by the hole in vegeta's armor, and the fact that they're on earth. This is already after king kai had wished everyone back to earth
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You can't stop me, I will do things to Goku that he will never fully recover from, and neither will YOU as you watch it happen helplessly!
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>>545207201
The anime staff just assumed he'd be the next big threat so they made him go on a power trip about how he was the strongest now that Freeza and Goku aren't around and can't be stopped I guess.
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>>545207891
i'm honestly suprised that the anime staff didn't accidentally do a drastic plot change with all the filler they do. They kind of did when piccolo destroyed goku's pod but they just kind of ignored that happened
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>fu uses his bullshit powers to pull mother brain/ridley and a fuck ton of metroids into xenoverse
>uh oh the metroids drained the crystal energy
>must now rely on help from Samus + Time Patrol
>uh oh omega shenron decided to absorb ridley and the metroids
>samus' new suit + beam relies on KI
Samus, (You) and Trunks win, the last metroid is in captivity, the timeline is at peace.
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How well do the time moves work?
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>>545208047
Hmm...
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>>545208047
It's kinda crazy DB never had a crossover with like Tekken. I can understand mortal kombat with the fatalities but Tekken doesn't have that issue.
Or Trunks in Soul Calibur.
>>545208159
Which time move in which game?
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>>545207201
Toei thought Vegeta would continue on as a villain, so he started boasting about how he's now the strongest in the universe by default now that Goku and Freeza are dead, Gohan got pissed, started a fight, Vegeta beat his ass, then Piccolo told him to stop and Vegeta (for some reason) complied... And this was all ignored once the anime caught up with the manga.
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>>545208393
g-goma?!
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>>545208401
Holy Inscription and Dark Inscription I have both moves on my female majin because I heard they power each other up and power up both ultimates the 600 ki one and the 500 ki one
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>>545208450
even within the confines of what the animators know, why would vegeta even believe that? he knows goku can just be brought back with the dragonballs whenever
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>>545208562
They work pretty well IMO, they aren't top tier moves but neat
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>>545208540
He's been there all along. Waiting.
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Mad Scientist Deadbeat Loser Demon Mom Who's a BUM
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>>545209090
That's not Arinsu!
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>>545209090
Also headlights
(I can't do areolae well)
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>>545209090
now this definitely fits your style
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>>545209559
Nice
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We need to see golden but dressed as the boss, and the same height
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>>545210008
golden frieza*, why the fuck does windows 11 delete the whole for a typo?
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>>545208393
>filename
kek
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Has Masako Nozawa ever played an evil character or a more hot headed character in any anime? I fucking love Black Goku and Bardock and would like to see more of it.
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>>545141230
If it was by any other fans, they would fail the assignment and miss Super's key element of simplistic but powerful transformations for it's main/reoccuring cast.
Hell, before we got UE's colors, fans were trying to brown up Vegeta like some tumblr refugee drawing Sonic characters. Now they're trying to hype up UE being a discount or midway SS4 as the pay off.
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>>545210883
Search some 70s anime, I'm sure you'll hear her.
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>>545212364
She's the witch lady from the original Voltron, Go Lion
She also voiced the final (DLC) villain of Super Robot Wars 30
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>>545145365
Supersonic Warriors was one of those games where you always fight in the air and be able to do omnidirectional movement and attacks
Something like Psychic Force and maybe Astra Superstars
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>>545207463
Pictured: a cut mocap of Giren in Dragon Ball Evolution after snatching a little girl's red cap.
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>>545212941
SRW 30 was who I was looking more for. (but desu I'm so out of the loop with SRW even 30 was a bit too much) I'm surprised she didn't do more villain roles but when you have Goku I guess you don't have much time to branch out. I guess it's an excuse to try Galaxy Express 999 but Tetsurou isn't that hot-headed and just more of a "kid".(although that may change with the anime adaptations)

You'd think she would do more evil/menacing bishounen roles but I guess that's more of Megumi Ogata or Romi Park's stuff.
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>>545213952
SRW Y was a massive improvement on 30 in nearly every regard, from higher difficulty actually providing a challenge to reworking the mission system to the OG plot thread to ESPECIALLY the crossover interactions. Only downside so far is the DLC taking forever to come out.
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>>545214706
all I know is i played 30 and they spoiled like 6 different /m/ anime in like 3 textboxes in the intro and I was just like "mm alright then".

I might try FF Type-0 but looks like Masako is just the strict teacher or something here. Man she killed it with Goku Black and Bardock, how the fuck did they not make her do more roles where she's more "evil" and not a granny character.
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Man Goku Black is such a disappointment for me. I don't mind him being an evil god stealing Goku's body or something but my biggest beef is how fucking retarded Zamasu is and how much he jobs. Then he shows up with his green ass stinky self and fucking ruins Goku Black aura. If only Goku Black arc just sticked with just black.
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>>545214798
Aura & Hype moments in Super
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>Toriyama makes a funny gag on basic hindu mediation where energy builds around the back
>also a bit of a jab at newgenners doing their own norms
>Dragon Ball fans gets offended and go insane over it
He was too high IQ for this world. No wonder he let his brain tumor/concussion/whatever take him over.
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>>545219135
People take this shit way too seriously and forget how Toriyama usually does transformations.
Here's how the manga showcased each initial Super Saiyajin transformation.
>Goku
Highly emotional rage moment from seeing his friend die.
>Future Trunks
Happened offscreen, no explanation
>Vegeta
Happened offscreen, I'm pure evil btw
>Future Gohan
Happened offscreen, never explained
>Gohan
Happened offscreen
>Goten
Deliberately silly explanation
>Trunks
Happened offscreen
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>>545219135
people getting anal over back tingle was always stupid as most criticisms conveniently forget that basically no one had to actually try all that hard to get super saiyan after goku
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>>545219647
Gohan actually did get his super saiyan onscreen, but he basically just kinda sat in the time chamber and thought about being mad for a couple of months, and most people don't actually know that future trunks got super saiyan offscreen in the manga, and go with the anime version of history of trunks
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>>545219851
That's why he specifically mentioned the manga, where Trunks got it before Gohan died.
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>>545219949
Yeah I acknowldged that in the post, I'm just saying most people don't actually know that's the manga version of events and defer to the anime versions of events. So when the u6 super saiyans show off back tingle people think of krillin blowing up on namek and gohan's lifeless body. Vegeta and Gohan's super saiyans feel comparatively more earned in the anime too, given we actually get to see the training arcs in filler. Goten and Trunks still invalidate the whole argument about getting mad over back tingle, tho
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>>545219692
Didn't the tingly back thing sort of come from Toriyama as well? I think there was an interview where he was asked what the feeling of turning super saiyan is and he said it felt like a tingling sensation in your back
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Someone put down DokkanAssets. He's going insane over Toyoslop atm.
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though, overall I think most issues with the u6 saiyans are just symptoms of their designs. Characters can get away with anything as long as they're cool/hot enough. Cabba being a little twig makes anything he does infinitely worse
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>>545220574
God forbid a Dragon Ball fan trying to experience a high again. That includes all the people trashing on Daima SS4.
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>>545219647
>Gohan
>Happened offscreen
Why is that parroted so much?
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>>545184757
Why the hell are Super DBZ and Fusions so low?
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>>545221335
Many DB "fans" don't read/watch the show, unfortunately. That said, it is a shame Super Saiyan Gohan with the long hair has never been in a game before.
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>>545223763
Same reason why Final Bout is at the top. It's a troll list, or someone really nostalgic for that piece of shit.
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>>545184757
Is this ranking intros?
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>>545224139
Why don't Dimps do 2D side-scrollers anymore?
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>>545206848
>my grandpa
Why would he ever say MY grandpa? They have the same grandpa
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>>545220708
>God forbid a Dragon Ball fan trying to experience a high again.
bro said they're outta coke but i'm a fiend so fentanyl will have to do. enjoy your OD, junkie.
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>>545219692
Even Goku didn't have to try, let alone hard, he just stumbled on it.
The only forms that were actively worked toward on screen are SSJ2, SSJB and UI.
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>>545224280
Their old guards from the SNK days left to greener pastures or just gave up video games.
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>>545220642
>Cabba being a little twig makes anything he does infinitely worse
Cabba is like the one dude in generation who actually had to try and get an emotional shock to get SSJ tho.
>>545221335
Cutting to him transforming count as offscreen, anon.
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>>545224280
SEGA execs weren't a huge fan of Sonic 4s and those shoddy handheld editions of the 3D titles they made.
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>>545225698
>Cutting to him transforming for the first time onscreen counts as offscreen
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>>545209149
Do you think she and Towa knew each other? With Dabura funding Arinsu's work and Towa being his sister, who's also a scientist?
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>>545229143
They probably had numerous catfights over who was the better scientist
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>>545192240
>only for it to be a nother shitty mod passed off as a legit DLC
Yeah, that annoys me too. At least put it in the title so I know it's a mod.
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>>545229143
Towa probably seethed that Arinsu was a better mage while Arinsu seethed that Towa was a better scientist.
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>still play XV2 when my face always looks like this when I do
Sunk cost + CaC is a deadly combo
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when is an alien woman going to rape Gohan to make a strong half-Saiyan baby for her to raise, bros?
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>>545235307
Gohan can't be raped because he isn't a gay cuck like Mark.
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>>545235723
>Gohan can't be raped
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I have it on good authority that that's not the case. I remember... the bet...
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>>545169213
Holy fucking brown
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>>545183953
>Super Hero
>The only Saiyamen are Goten and trunks (in the manga)
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>>545183720
Companies love latching on to retarded shit like that represent all of the beginning era. Headchala wasn't all that good in the first place. Mukufugi whatever adventure was slightly better. We gotta power was always the best Z intro.
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>>545192240
>modded character on the switch and now switch 2 and the game not shit itsel
QRD?
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>>545197273
Holy FVARK! GENIUSten knows everything.
>>545201246
She looks a lot worse in the manga compared to the anime. In the anime they somehow made remain her cute. She looks like a dyke in the manga.
Anime highschool Gohan looks better too.
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>>545205401
Videl got taught what it actually means to be one the main characters and she wasn't up for it. She was overly cocky despite not knowing shit. Deserved completely, she should have left the arena.
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>>545206126
>Videl got turned into a housewife and never fights again
>Woman can't handle what it takes to be an actual fighter and gives up
WOW! >>545206028 is completely and utterly correct.
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>>545208450
???? The android arc was beginning by the time they animated this. And people say the incoherent z anime is better than anything. Kai mogs.
I don't oppose Bejita still being a villain post freeza but doing weird anime only shit with major character implications (and thus giving people a false perspective) is dumb.
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Why samefag over the same post hours later
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>>545206928
Toriyama would have done this btw
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>>545209559
Better without. Areolae are fairly small.
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>>545225698
>Cabba is like the one dude in generation who actually had to try and get an emotional shock to get SSJ tho.
I hate when people parrot this. His transformation was one of the most low effort things ever. He got insults told to his face and transformed. The average U6 Saiyan would play in a CoD lobby and transform.
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>>545220157
Goten and Trunks were children of Super Saiyans. They have more justification.
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>>545241952
This is the same kind of logic that gave us Rey Palpatine
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>>545242154
I never watched star wars but I'm assuming she's a giga Mary sue or something
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>>545241860
He got his ass beat and his entire race threatened of genocide by someone who can credibly do it. That's completely different from just being insulted like Uub.
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>>545149702
On my ki blast female majin, I dump 200 into HP, 200 into a damage type of my choice (ki super), 87 into stamina for 14 bars and 17 into ki for 11 bars with this QQ bang, then dump the rest into basic.
if you want 15 stamina, invest 114 points. i only round up my ki to 11 bars so i have less trouble fighting people using "Something deadly is about to happen" on ranked. its a bit overkill and most people would probably disagree with me for doing this. its a matter of personal preference. you could easily invest those 17 points into whatever damage you want. just make sure you max dump HP and get however many bars of stamina you want first before investing into damage.
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>>545205681
>>545207109
It's hot
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>>545201501
>n-no actually it only freezes people!

>>545202285
that's the only good thing about it
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>>545205401
No, it's just porn addicts inserting their derangement. Toriyama was a fairly normal dude with basic ass taste. The point of the scene was making you (and Gohan) hate Spopovich. Which proves why women do not belong on the battlefield, the reader reaction is very fifferent when Videl's getting beat up vs. all the men being btutalized.
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>>545243647
>"200 into HP and damage choice"
>already put 100 into basic attack for a new CaC I'm making
>three main CACs are beyond fucked because they're statted for level 99
Gotta get those dragon balls...

Also, you don't charge?
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>>545197273
humiliation ritual
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>>545248915
sometimes i do for pve, but typically i prefer to bring a soul that has ki auto recovery so i can gain ki even when the fight is slow. most of my sets are for pvp and if you use a charge that isnt burst charge, you basically have a dead slot.
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>>545244617
Pure form is shit anyway
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>>545209559
ignore the other anon, do more like these
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>>545248663
Holy shit someone smart in a Dragon Ball thread???
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>>545248663
>>545250604
>Toriyama was a fairly normal dude with basic ass taste.
He wanted to pretend to be senile to peep on his own daughter, samefag
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>Samefag
Meds.
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>>545250794
>He [made a basic ass pervy joke]
wow
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>a guy wanting to surrender when we each have one GoD down and each team defeated a single boss
Goku would fucking RAPE the coward
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>>545247550
Did full robots like #16 get frozen too? If so he couldn't even use that excuse
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>>545252852
Remove the surrender option from the game
when a team has no gods left they all get 25% more damage but 25% less defense, die on your feet
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I want it to be Jan 27th already so we can have another good round laughing at Morokeks when Dragon Ball Turbo gets announced instead.
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Can't wait for the Dragon Ball Super Z announcement in January.
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Dragon Ball VIctory (because it's the sixth main series after OG, Z, GT, Super and Daima)
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>fight the enemy inside his GoD range
>barely win
>get a finish animation
>die immediately after because Zeno fucked off by the time the animation ended and the GoD kills me
They should give you Immune to All for like half a second after the animation or something.
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>>545257673
That'd be a cool name
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>>545258120
Animations in general can be very frustrating.
>>545252852
I only surrender when I have a teammate who's literally not playing.
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>>545256630
super 2 with the 2 resembling a Z
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>>545258263
Yeah, it's even worse when you're defending and and an enemy fucks your GoD up because you're stuck in the animation, getting punished after you won a fight against his teammate. Perhaps another thing to do is making everyone having to watch and time stopping (maybe make them rarer so it's not too annoying).
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>>545258620
IIRC, in the demo, that wasn't a problem, not sure what was different tho.
The GoD thing is REALLY awful.
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you are all so caught up in trying to guess what the name is that the format will sneak up on you. It'll be in live action, but not just any generic live action. You better be ready for the dragonball STAGEPLAY
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>>545259145
ENTER
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>>545259145
You made me mad at 'live action' but I'll take a stageplay.
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>>545259145
Only if it's a musical.
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>>545259352
i'm genuinely suprised there hasn't been a (Modern) dragonball stageplay of somesort, it feels like every other anime gets one
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>>545259406
There was a small chinese one a few years ago I think?
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>>545224229
yes oh my god why are db fans so fucking stupid, it was pretty fucking obvious.
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>>545224159
youre a fucking stupid cocksucker
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>>545259804
I SURE AM!
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Bit of a harder one this time, but how do you personally justify/headcanon the reason why Trunks and Vegeta seemingly got nothing from their additional year in the hyperbolic time chamber? Like sure, reduced gains from training two years nonstop I can see, but them not getting mastered seems a bit odd, given how easy it is to get once you know what it is
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>>545261262
They just didn't try. It's not like Goku told them to just keep their SS ip for months. And even then, Vegeta would probably not follow his training tips. Trunks might have had though. But thdn again, he was still a kid left to hus own devices. He should have at least paired up with Piccolo for guidance.
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>>545261262
Because this is Gohan's story
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>>545261813
feels odd that vegeta after being directly told by his main rival that he was weaker, just wouldn't try at all to catch up. especially since vegeta is just supposedly this GENIUS when it comes to stuff like this. It also felt to me like vegeta just kind of knew what mastered super saiyan was supposed to be the second he saw it, despite trunks not getting it
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>>545261908
Gohan still would have been much stronger than Vegeta and Trunks no matter what, even if they did get mastered it wouldn't change the plot much other than just extending the cell games a bit, which I understand why Toriyama didn't do, even if I do feel the execution was a bit sloppy
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>>545262114
Here's a slightly different question. Did Trunks have SS Grade 4 by the time he fought Imperfect Cell? A Grade 1 SS beating a beyond Androids opponent is strange for that period.
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>>545261262
They refused to stop using those dogshit SSJ transformations that slowed you down even after Goku said focusing on base SSJ was better
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>>545262440
to be fair, that was trunks with 2+ years of time chamber training in addition to whatever training he did in preperation for cell showing up. Even if he didn't master super saiyan I think he would be fine with just his basic super saiyan. Especially since cell only gets "beyond androids" once he actually absorbs people, and he likely never got the chance in trunks' timeline
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>>545263424
Grade 2's downsides don't seem to be all that bad, but why the fuck is trunks using grade 3 again, is he stupid?
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>>545262016
He probably just went "nah, I'll do it my own way". It was kinda competition of "who will surpass super saiyan". Switching to Goku's tactics would be admitting defeat.
>>545263789
Just because it's bad doesn't mean it's mot the best he has.
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>>545264651
Grade 2 would be the best he has, though. Grade 3 makes him so slow that it's outright unusable, and he should know this. Vegeta is also implied to have grade 3 but he never used it because he knows it's shit
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>>545264651
>It was kinda competition of "who will surpass super saiyan". Switching to Goku's tactics would be admitting defea
But vegeta spent an entire year and made zero headway into anything, it doesn't even seem like he got any stronger given he still got punked by a cell junior
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>>545264754
It's unusable vs. Cell, Cell Jrs. are slower. He could keep up with them as Cell himself remarked.
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>>545265020
Cell outright says both Vegeta and Trunks got stronger. Also, anime kinda warps the pervepyion of that fight as they buffed Piccolo while nerfing V&T.
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>>545265045
well, he said fight back specifically. I don't really think they were going to keep up for very long given how hard vegeta took even just one hit from that cell junior, and being seemingly unable to really hurt the juniors
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So did cell get the power to create cell juniors from absorbing 18? Are the cell juniors 18s kids?
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The answer to that is yes. There's an interview somewhere that confirms that.
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>>545266906
thanks I hate it, why did gero's computer do this, what was its endgame
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also if cell has 18's womb does that mean he has 17's dick?

Is cell a futa? Can he impregnate people?
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>>545267134
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Toriyama really did do whatever to the very end.
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>>545263424
Those are clearly their normal SS forms, you are confusing it with the anime where they kept using it, also in the movies. Grade 2 and Grade 3 died the moment they saw training as vanilla SS was better.
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>>545267692
>the lower the lifeform, the larger its offspring, so a perfect being does not reproduce
>Cell produces larger offspring than namekians, saiyans and even humans, giving birth to seven individuals in one go
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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>>545267692
Cell had seven offspring, which would make him a lifeform on the tier of a rat or something going by this logic
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>>545267756
so in the manga they gave up using grade 2 or 3 but still never got grade 4? That's even more confusing
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Why did Gohan forget about the Namek dragonballs? he just saw Goku go get dende a couple days ago
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And people keep asking for "Daima season 2". What was ever shown to suggest it? Goku and the others immediately wanting to return home after becoming adults again. Super had flaws, but it still sets up events for future arcs to happen.
>Battle of Gods reveals an entire multiverse and expands the godly hierarchy
>Resurrection F reintroduces Freeza
>Tournament of Destroyers introduces Zeno and the Super Dragon Balls (which gives Zamasu the ability to start the zero mortals plan in Trunks' timeline)
>Goku Black sets up the multiversal tournament to eventually happen
>Tournament of Power concludes with Freeza being revived by Whis and seeking strong fighters to recruit in his army
>Broly movie ends with Freeza wanting Broly under his control and desires to train harder (directly leads into the Super Hero movie)
>manga Tournament of Power arc ends with Majin Buu being kidnapped by the Galactic Patrol to fight Moro
>Moro arc ends with Seven-Three surviving, being captured by Granolah and presented to the Heeters
>Granolah arc ends with Black Freeza killing Gas and Elec, recruiting Macki and Oil,Granolah befriends Goku and Bejita, and Broly fleeing Planet Vampa seeking refuge on Beerus' planet
>Super Hero ends with Gohan, Goten and Trunk regaining their drive to protect Earth
Daima had nothing like that. It ends with Bulma being scared of fusion bugs and the third eye being a regular item sold at the store they previously shopped at.
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>>545268605
There's no such a thing as grade 4, retardo, "grade 4" is just being used to SS.
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>>545269732
And? it's clearly supposed to be exceptionally stronger than grade 2 or 3, with Trunks and Vegeta clearly being leauges weaker than Goku despite training for longer, so they must not have it
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>>545270182
>the aura that surrounds him is different
Is that a real thing? I don't think i've seen anyone bring that up
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Starting a family with my Cellfu
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>>545269910
>I'm clearly too stupid to understand anything but FORMS FORMS FORMS MULTIPLIERS MULTIPLIERS when Toriyama literally laughed at those with "grade 4"
Goku and Gohan got used to SS and got better results with their training. At no point is ever implied that their SS is magically a higher power increase than Vegeta and Trunks', they just trained.

>>545270182
We can tell you mixed guides because the formating is different, dumbass. Grade 2 and Grade 3 are from the 7th Daizenshuu, the one approved by Toriyama, "Super Saiyan Full Power" is from who knows where but not from the same source as the other two you dishonest rat
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>>545270786
HEROten!
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>>545271162
>At no point is ever implied that their SS is magically a higher power increase than Vegeta and Trunks', they just trained.
Anon that doesn't make any sense, Gohan and Goku only ever trained for 10 months in the time chamber whereas vegeta and trunks trained for 2 YEARS. if it's only training that matters where did that entire additional year of training go?
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>>545271162
Who's we? There are no French cucks here.
>Grade 2 and Grade 3 are from the 7th Daizenshuu, the one approved by Toriyama, "Super Saiyan Full Power" is from who knows where but not from the same source as the other two you dishonest rat
Try lying harder, little bitch.
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>>545271356
Vegeta and Trunks didn't even train 2 years until the Cell Game, the initial comparison between Grade 2 Vegeta and "Grade 4" Goku is from when Vegeta and Trunks had only one year of training.
>but that makes Goku and Gohan way better than Vegeta and Trunks!
Yeah, and? Again at no point it's ever implied Goku and Gohan got a special variety of SS that increases their power more than normal, just that they used a better training method by getting used to SS. In fact they originally talk about breaking the SS barrier and yet there's no mention of Goku's method doing that, he "breaks" the barrier with the grades and immediately drops them and goes back to SS because it's better in the long term, Goku himself never ever fights anyone with anything above vanilla SS until the Boo arc.
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>>545272291
>Vegeta and Trunks didn't even train 2 years until the Cell Game, the initial comparison between Grade 2 Vegeta and "Grade 4" Goku is from when Vegeta and Trunks had only one year of training.
Well, yes, we're all aware of that. The entire point of this conversation is asking why Vegeta and Trunks are so far behind. If you're correct and vegeta and trunks did just get "used" to super saiyan in the same way goku did, why are they just wholesale weaker? If they're "used" to super saiyan, that means they did similar training to goku and should be at a similar level of power
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>This amount of coping
Super Saiyan Grade 4 is a real thing and it draws out more power than Grade 3.
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>>545271959
Thanks for proving me right, lying rat. The 7th Daizenshuu, the one approved by Toriyama, only has SS, Grade 2, Grade 3, SS2 and SS3, and the "Super Saiyan Full Power" you tried to pass as canon here >>545270182 is from a different source.
Kek what a fucking retard, I didn't even have to check which non-canon guide that shit was from, you exposed your bullshit like a good pup

>>545272569
>If you're correct and vegeta and trunks did just get "used" to super saiyan in the same way goku did,
I literally never said they got used to SS in the same fashion Goku and Gohan did, stop making shit up.
Also even if they did, following the same basic principles doesn't mean two different martial artists will attain the same gains.
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>>545268605
No, it's just this guy's headcanon.
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>>545272945
>The 7th Daizenshuu, the one approved by Toriyama,
>Literal spiction
Your proof Toriyama only supported the one? Doesn't exist.
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>>545272945
I don't think there's been very many instances where someone undergoes similar training to someone else in the series and they only get worse gains. Vegeta used the gravity chamber to catch up, the humans got far more power from training with kami during saiyan saga, like yeah it's obvious just so these behind characters can somewhat catch up but it makes vegeta and trunks not catching up look weirder
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>>545272945
>Daizenshuu
>Approved by Toriyama
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>>545273620
It's pretty evident Grade 4 is a pretty decent boost from grade 1. It draws out a lot more power from the user. It's debatable if it's better than Grade 3.
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>>545273163
>the rat exposed himself so badly he's now trying to change the argument to "well they are all canon!"
Nah, (You) lost, consider yourself fed for the rest of the day, rat

>>545273620
You are literally mentioning one of the instances where someone got worse gains despite having the same training, every time the earthlings copied one of Goku's training methods they always got better results. Hell post-Kami Goku would have been one-shot by Raditz while post-Kami fucking Yamcha effortlessly made a saibaman resort to suicide bombing.
The results of training vary depending on the character and the plot's convenience, if Toriyama wanted Goku to be such a genius martial artist he surpasses Vegeta's ascended SS form just by mastering basic SS then Vegeta is just fucked.
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>>545274615
well yeah I do personally believe that what goku was using when he came out of the time chamber is its own dedicated form, but i'm trying to engage with the argument that even if it *isn't* it doesn't really solve the problem of vegeta and trunks being so far behind
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>>545274752
>No proof for his literal spiction claim
I accept your concession, spic.
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>>545274752
>The results of training vary depending on the character and the plot's convenience, if Toriyama wanted Goku to be such a genius martial artist he surpasses Vegeta's ascended SS form just by mastering basic SS then Vegeta is just fucked.
Obviously, sure. I acknowledged at the very start of this conversation that the reason Vegeta and Trunks are behind is so they don't clog up the cell games and so Gohan can get his fight faster, I just think it's rather questionably done. Someone doing training after goku does is easier to excuse as plot convenience to catch up than vegeta not being able to catch up for plot convenience reasons
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Dragon Ball vs G Gundam? Which is the better shounen?
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>NO ESE IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE TORIYAMA DIDN'T APPROVE OF IT IN MY HEADCANON!
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>>545275031
I'm not here to discuss how contrived or logical the writing is here, I'm just telling you what the writer told us. Vegeta broke the SS barrier and started using SS Grade 2, a power up above SS. Goku broke the SS barrier and decided to go back to SS and get used to it in order to get his gains just from better training and at no point of the manga or any canonical product they have refered to that form as anything other than plain SS. Not even videogames, that love to make everything a form, bother making SS Grade 4 a thing.
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>>545275918
I mean, full power super saiyan 4 barely shows up in anything either and we know that's an actual thing. Got to be a thing in heroes I guess.
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>>545261262
Overtraining stressed out their bodies.
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>It's forgotten so it's not a thing
Sound logic there, pup.
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>>545276335
didn't seem to stress out vegeta much when he was training out in the gravity chamber in space for years. Stressing out the body from training killing gains basically never comes up again before or after this unless you want to bring up that one line about resting well all the way back from roshi training
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OH MIGHTY SHENRON, GRANT MY WISH, I WISH ALL OF /dbs/ posters in /dbg/ HAD UNWASHABLE, INCURABLE SWAMP ASS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS
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>>545276981
that'd just make them post here more
wish for them to be ultrachads with no time to be on 4chin
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>>545275110
I like G Gundam but DB is just better
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>>545276981
YUMAROOOOO! I WANT TO LICK IT CLEAN!
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>>545276050
>and we know that's an actual thing.
It helps it's mentioned in the anime itself. It's retarded since it's nothing but a souped up SS4, but it's there...
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>>545276812
>Stressing out the body from training killing gains basically never comes up again before or after this
Whis mentions it too.
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>>545277247
has specifically *ultra* full powered super saiyan 4 ever shown up in anything? it's such a nothing powerup
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>>545261262
They're retarded and think that more muscles = better.
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>>545277293
which is weird because during super they spend a shitload of time grinding in the time chamber, much more than they did during cell
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Im not a regular just curious desu, do broly and cheelai shippers even exist anymore? With super heroes and this game it seems like they like beerus x cheelai way more
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>>545277718
I guess it wouldn't be the first time dragonball does ntr
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>>545277718
>Im not a regular just curious desu, do broly and cheelai shippers even exist anymore?
DB doesn't really do shipping but they're considered the default couple, yes.
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>>545276981
UHHH... I MEAN... I COULD GRANT YOUR WISH, BUT WHAT YOU SPECIFY ALREADY SEEMS TO BE THE CASE. WOULD YOU LIKE SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD?
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>>545277868
How are they considered the default after this or the dialog between them in xv2 where beerus talks about wanting to find a quiet place for them to train
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>>545276050
UFPS4 Goku is in Heroes, Dokkan and Legends. SS Grade 4 Goku is nowhere because it's not a thing. Dimps has stuff like SSB Vegito with a barrier or Krillin after a power unlock being their own forms and yet nobody ever made a SS Grade 4 form for Goku or Gohan, that should tell you enough.
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>>545278215
You know its not real right
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>>545278215
Beerus is just simping, that rarely goes anywhere in DB.
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>>545278215
https://youtu.be/R7vWFmtgZe0?si=JeEcn32S4C9uJcId

Here's all the loading screens. Its not real.
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>>545277868
Which is funny because DB famously never does friends-to-lovers. You always have at least one character have hots for the other early into their relationship. Friendzone is real in DB.
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>>545277868
Cheelai is such a bitch I hope they don’t get shipped ever again.
Better with Beerus than with Broly anyway, he deserves better than a bitch that literally got his dad killed.
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>>545278529
tbf what would you do specifically for full power super saiyan goku and not just generically "cell games" goku? Him immediately getting out of the time chamber? Him in that sick ass jacket when he was hanging out with gohan?
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>>545272619
It's a matter of control. Ginyu in Goku's body was almost 4 times weaker in pure powerlevel because he had no idea how to use it.
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>>545278874
Budokai had Krillin and kid Gohan's power unlocks being transformations that just gave them cool auras, and Heroes/Divers just update some models and can also have small changes like auras, nothing really stops them from making a SS Goku with a cooler aura and give it a stat boost. Hell I don't know about Dokkan's one but the UFPS4 Goku from Legends doesn't even look different from the other SS4 Goku models, both body and aura are exactly the same and only the name is different because in lore UFPS4 is a thing.
You are acting as if a lazy transformation was a problem and not a blessing, it's even easier to implement.
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>>545278754
You do see that with videl and gohan who started as friends. Also you and I irl count too.
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>>545277718
Beerus x Cheekai fans still exist just like Bulma x Goku and Naruto x Sakura fans will always exist. Of course people like the obvious ship. They're gonna get subverted.
>>545277361
The one with the red aura? I can't remember
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>>545279254
tbf whether or not you consider grade 4 a real form or not it's odd to me that it's not treated like one in videogames anyways. Like you said, gohan and krillin getting powered up is treated like a form as well as stuff that was hotly debated for years like if gohan's ultimate was a form or not. Videogames don't really care that much about what is and isn't a form in "lore" yet they still dont do it
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>>545277868
>>545278545
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>>545278739
Okay fine you got me, its fake. Im a lalafag from /xivg/ and just wanted to cuckpost here okay? Ill go back to /wfg/ and talk about eleanor cheating on the drifter. Goodbye
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>>545279439
>Beerus x Cheekai
Meant to say Broly x cheelai here. That's what I get for multitasking
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>>545279439
>>545279619
Sorry bro. You spoke it into being. Beerus x cheelai wont happen now and they'll subvert it by going the obvious route
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>>545279597
Why is she fucking fat. That's fucking disgusting
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>>545279476
though now that I think about it, the main reason this isn't done is likely because there's never a distinct goku at the start of androids saga, he's just rolled into end of namek goku. So there's no need to specify what form goku is in like you would need to specify krillin or gohan from early namek or late namek. it's just "cell games goku"
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>>545279391
Videl already had a crush at least during their first training session. Pretty much as soon as you could reasonably call them friends, she had hots for him. Contrast it with Broly and Cheelai who knew each other for years and neither is interested in the other romantically or sexually.
>Also you and I irl count too.
URUSAI ANON-KUN NO BAKA ECCHI!
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>>545279840
Nah. It stil counts as friends first. As do we.
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>>545279927
HENTAI SUKEBE ECCHI SHINE SHINE SHINE
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>>545279476
That's what I'm saying, videogames will turn anything into a form and yet they won't do it for "grade 4". Because it's not a thing, a power unlock, a passive buff or anything like that is a real thing, a real difference. "Grade 4" is just SS Goku, sure he trained and got stronger but that's all? Goku does that all the time, you may as well consider base Goku from the saiyan arc and base Goku from the Buu arc different forms too, then.
If anything your SS Grade 4 Goku is Tenkaichi's SS Goku (Z-End) since that's how they represent that increase in power
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>>545279772
Femlalas are fat
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>>545280051
>Because it's not a thing
I mean, it is. Whether or not it's just goku getting better at default super saiyan or grade 4 it's still treated as a big power boost as far as the narrative goes. It's as valid as the potential unlocks as an actual power boost. I just think it's not put in most games for practicality reasons
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>>545278187
I wish a muthafucka would!
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>>545280051
>you may as well consider base Goku from the saiyan arc and base Goku from the Buu arc different forms too, then.
Videogames absolutely do this, though
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>>545280232
By that reasoning you can have separate Vegeta (Saiyan saga), Vegeta (Namek Early), Vegeta (Namek mid), Vegeta (Namek late) and Vegeta (Namek end).
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>>545280440
well yeah videogame makers absolutely could get that granular if they wanted to, they just don't because they would get eaten alive
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>>545279597
Hope you enjoyed your stay on /dbg/ I guess.
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>>545279597
woosh you now have swamp ass
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It's funny how badly they want to have manga content in the games but they can't.
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>>545283150
>badly want
Tacofag, you use this phrase every fucking time, vary your vocabulary.
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>>545283742
Re-read his post anon...
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>>545280382
Exactly, that's why I said SS Goku (End) is your "SS grade 4 Goku", because at the end grade 4 is just SS Goku after the RoSaT training. That's all you will ever get because that's all it is

>>545280232
As long you understand the difference between SS Goku and "SS Grade 4 Goku" is just some training, like the difference between SS Vegeta (Cell arc) and SS Vegeta (Buu arc) I can accept your stance
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>almost zero posts about gekishin

What went wrong?
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>>545284107
No I still don't really agree that the difference is just training, I was just going with it because i'm not going to convince you otherwise.
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>>545284647
My internet went down for a few days so I lost my daily streak and didn't feel like playing again.
Also there's just no feeling of progression, after a while you kinda face a wall where you're not really unlocking new characters or getting new skins or animations, just dupes. Golden Capsules also really dried up so I'm stuck with mostly animations for characters I don't play rather than my mains.
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>>545285236
>Also there's just no feeling of progression, after a while you kinda face a wall where you're not really unlocking new characters or getting new skins or animations, just dupes.
It doesn't help the system is so stingy with zeni you can't progress. I have enough memories to get most of my characters to level 5, but not enough zeni to get all of them to even level 4. It's a terrible system.
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>>545286578
Yeah, a lot of progress problems would have neen solved of the awarded you ome Zeni for every 10 outstanding Battle Pass Points.
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>>545286578
The levels above that cost exponentially more if it still work like the tests. The numbers got crazy in the test where they give 500K gems at the end and I maxed everyone.
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>>545284647
too many p2w fags ruining it, also greedy jewish cosmetic and battleASS horseshit
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>>545288539
>battleASS horseshit
You can't even get enough gems from the battlepass to buy the next one.
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I really like that Baby made Bejita bigger and taller. Wish Bejita kept that body but without the markings and blue lid eyes.
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>>545288108
Even better, the system should not have zeni be needed to level up at all. All that does is intentionally hamper progress just so you're frustrated enough to buy a character.

>>545288125
Anon once posted a screenshot showing how much you need to go from level 7 to 8. 9000 zeni and 20000 memories. All of that for a single character. Insanity.
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>>545291085
Pause
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Seriously, it's near impossible to get bosses with bots in your team. If you switch lanes, they're programmed to immediately take your place and attack the enemy GoD.
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>>545291507
Well, at that point, Zeni stops being the problem with the diminishing returns on memories per battle.
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>>545291845
At this point I report bots for uncooperative gameplay.

>>545292153
By that point, zeni will still be a problem if they don't increase the amount given by a significant amount. If they tripled how much zeni the game gives, it still wouldn't be enough... No matter what zeni will be an issue... And to get to 20000 zeni, they would need to increase the amount of memories given by 10x just so it's not too painful of a grind, and with the current system, getting 2000 memories takes a long time as is...
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>>545293219
>At this point I report bots for uncooperative gameplay.
I literally alway report bots.
>By that point, zeni will still be a problem
No, because Memories will become the real filter. I just counted, and I got roughly twice as much Zeni as I got the Memories in the game so far. Already by the 4->5 we basically catch up to that rate. The average exponent for the rise of memory cost up to level 8 is 2.5, for Zeni it's 1.6. As the game will progress, you will find yourself having the Zeni, but not the Memories for the next upgrade.
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>>545284647
it's too repetitive

I have fatigue already
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>>545293219
>reporting bots to the company that intentionally put the bots in your game in the first place
lol lmao
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1v1 Tournament for every DB fighting game with netplay accessibility to decide which characterfag is the best
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>>545296182
Because formally there are no bots, this is unironically the only form of complaint at your disposal. Though of course you'd need numbers for that. If players regilarly reported the bots, the company might (in their best interest) be inclined to at least make them less obvious.
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Shit, I accidentally fucked Majin 21 and now she's determined to become a time kai and erase every other DB Waifu except her
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>>545294630
I see. And there'll be an event that gives you more Zeni too, but so far, nothing of the like for memories... Shit this system is so bad...
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My friend was telling me that the last time the main hub area of a Xenoverse game was destroyed, that soon after they announced a new game.

I can't even remember shit from Xenoverse 1
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Why don't we have an online Tenkaichi 3 tournament among ourselves here?
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>>545298923
I think that once you're around level 80, you should consider just buying daily memories from the shop. In the long tun, you'll level up faster.
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>>545299406
What I'm planning to do is not get the characters who cost 120 gems anymore. Granted I only have 3 left, but the plan is, if a season's new character doesn't have anyone I really want, I'll use the gems I have to get one of the 120 gems characters, while in the star collection, I get the season's new characters that cost 250 (Assuming they don't lower the price) once they become free.
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>>545300183
This strategy is flawed in that a bought character is replaced by 5000 Memories of themselves. So you might end up out of options for a particular tier other than taking them (you won't be allowed a selection from a different tier).
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>>545299394
not sparking zero???
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I don't get people who hate the Buu Saga because "oh durr it introduced everything I hate about Super"
like lol wut
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Nobody really ever talks about the anime filler or original content. So let's talk about it, what's your favorite? what added to the experience? what didn't? it's weird since people complain that db is all screaming and stuff and they're talking about problems that are CLEARLY anime related problems but then never mention anything anime-only like they only know the story from the manga
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>>545303670
The most fascinating thing is dreams and general esoterics. I don't recall a single on-screen dream or vision in the manga, but Z is ridded with them. Bardock special is of course the most famous example, but far from the only one. E.g
Goku gets two separate visions guring the Freeza fight, destruction of Earth and death of his family before Kaiokenx20 and Vegeta with other fallen saiyans motivating him before Genki Dama.
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>>545301442
I'm aware, which's why I'm only going through with it once I confirm the newer characters are added to lower tiers like it's theorized. So say, if Gotenks is added to tier 2, and I buy Trunks with gems, then the next character I can get from the tier 2 unlock will still have another character left, and if eventually the next season character is added to tier 2, then I can get that character too. Always delaying getting the memories.
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>>545304136
I always found funny Gohan had a dream of Cell killing Piccolo and Chichi, despite Gohan saying earlier he never even saw Cell.
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>>545304237
They almost definitely will be added to Tier 1 while other characters get pushed down.
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>>545303670
it's just weird in general when DB is almost ALL original content flooded in and DBZ has a SHIT ton of side plots going on with the main plot. It may not be good but it's funny how nobody really mentions them. then again who tf is watching 150+ episodes of DB and then 291 for DBZ. but really no talk about young muten roshi, no talk about any additional filler. weird.
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The Weird Hat Girl With a Bad Browjob
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>>545304678
Now do USV Frieza wearing supreme kai of time clothes
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>>545303670
>>545304660
>no one
Are you kidding me?
>Ginyu Bulma
>Driving episode
>10 days pre-Cell period (Goku vs rock scene is a popular meme)
>Great Saiyaman as a whole (nobody would remember him if he only got a 1 episode like in the manga)
>Party post-Buu
All are pretty known.
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How would you react to the next DB game being a Hero Shooter?
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>>545307920
Also Snake Road adventures, Garlic Jr., and Otherworld Tournament. It's just OG filler that's ignored I personally only read that part in the manga
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>>545307920
other than driving episode and a few memes, like NOBODY talks about the other ones. don't @ me you know that shit is true. most DB "fans" just watched abridged and memes and called it a day. they'll maybe watch super so good on them though.
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>>545308024
"yet another game i won't play"
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>>545308024
what in the jojo bizarre adventure
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>>545308024
"oh it will probably be P2W slop like gekishin"
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>>545308203
That's just not true. The 10 days before Cell games giving a natural lead-in versus the abrupt switch to Gohan as the MC in the manga is a popular praise for the anime. And Ginyu Bulma, even if it's almost uniquely bashed as annoying padding, is discussed a lot.
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>>545308542
NO
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>fu gathers his energy by absorbing it from time-screwups, rifts, and battles

>never once thought "hey...what happens if I have Baby possess Goku" or "what if Majin Buu absorbed Janemba"
>it's literally always "how about we take Broly...and turn him purple!" "How about we take Cell, stay with me now....and turn him PURPLE!?...and make gohan....WEAKER!?!!?!"
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>>545309142
He's still a kid, kids repeat their favorite game at nauseum until their parents want to kill themselves out of boredom, please understand.
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>>545308024
MUSOU OR BUST
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WHY DO YOU FUCKERS LIKE MUSOUS SO MUCH HOLY SNOOZE FEST
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>>545310587
The funny thing is that if we got a Musou, it'd be the best selling Musou in history. These are fucking ROOKIE numbers.
https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Warriors
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>>545310775
It's been ages since the last DB beat 'em up. I'm not married to Musou necessarily, but we need another one.
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I HATE MUSOUS
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>>545310775
cause i have like 5 to 10 games where i can play a Saiyan in an arena battler scenario but zero where i can mow down a small army of Freeza Soldiers or Metal Coolers with giant, earth-shattering and terrain uprooting blasts. i wouldn't be opposed to DBZ Kart or DBZ Party but i'd prefer a musou first.

>>545311108
big true! and it would have the best modding scene in the genre.
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So does the new Broly have a custom key or can I stop farming this raid?
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>>545310775
There exists cool Musous that are NOT a snooze fest.
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All the left Saiyan needs now is spikier (Caulifla's) hair. Then she'll be perfect compared to my first creation on the right.
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>>545320452
>All the left Saiyan needs now is spikier (Caulifla's) hair
Revamp's got what you need, brother!
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Mineslop is out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kcUv_-n5c
Absolute ass compared to the Java mods, I hate "HD" skins so fucking much it ruins everything.
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You know, if Turles was right about Low Class Saiyans having mostly similar hair styles, there should be some female Saiyans with Goku's hair...
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>>545317371
LIKE
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We talk a lot about the sixth gen DB games, but what about the seventh gen ones?
>Burst Limit
>Revenge of King Piccolo
>Raging Blast
>Raging Blast 2
>Ultimate Tenkaichi
>Battle of Z
>Xenoverse
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>>545324102
HEY BOY LOOK FOR THOSE DRAGON BALLS
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I did it.
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She will cook you in a chud stew
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>>545326851
Was it worth it?
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>>545333685
No. The stress of worrying about winning is annoying, so now I'll just play to mess around and not worry about SS rank.
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>>545308203
>I think the annoying thing about filler discussion is that true filler and microfiller are often conflated as the same word. So when someone's talking about filler you don't know if they're talking about the actual filler arcs like gohan's extended training, the downtime before the cell games, black water mist, otherworld tournament, etc. or if they're talking about the actual problematic microfiller, stuff like extremely long panning shots and long looping animation or reactions and stuff
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>>545335674
why tf are you greentexting i get what you mean though
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It’s not bad but this arc feels kinda cheap. There’s nice character moments but other than that shit just happens to further drag out the plot. It’s like Toriyama doesn’t care and just being dragged by his editor.
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>>545205401
I think his intent was to show the extent of what a 'normal' human could accomplish in that world, and to also show why he never added a girl to the main fighter cast. Nobody normal wants to watch a cute girl get beaten to a pulp
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>>545327202
Rude!
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>>545327202
Go ahead then! Do it! I'm a vorechad, your empty bluster only encourages me even more!
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>>545235307
>alien
That's just a regular ass white lady from a 90s sitcom
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never mind. This shit became kino the moment Goku and Vegeta took over.
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>>545303670
I liked Gohan having a pet dragon.
>>545304678
She's so cute
>>545308024
I'd be annoyed because I don't want another always online multiplayer game, we already got Gekishin.
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>>545310775
I like Sengoku Basara and playing Ener in Pirate Warriors was fun.
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>>545322550
Not bad but it just being a skin is so boring.
>>545324102
Raging Blast 2 was great. The 'story mode' was shit tho, I hated the 'win before the shitty mode with no supermoves run out' and 'win with literally 1 HP' fights
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>>545326851
Congrats.
>>545335674
I agree, some actual fillers were shit too tho.
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>Goku just leaves and lives with some Indian kid
What a weird ending
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>>545345076
it kind of fits if you read it within the context of "nothing satisfying has shown up in the decade since buu, goku is a bit burned out and tired and ready to pass on the torch" Which doesn't work even remotely with current characterization.
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>>545345076
Do not underestimate Uub. He'll become the strongest... Any day now.
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>>545345379
am I just stupid or what are the other panels in this image seemingly unrelated to uub supposedly referring to
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>>545345486
It's showing that despite Goku having had a ridiculously packed 10 years after Buu, fighting a lot of overpowered enemies, learning godly power that is above anything, having Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo and Broly to fight (And not included, Gamma#1 since Goku didn't meet him) who are either around his level of power, or stronger than him, Goku in EoZ is presented as bored and looking for a new worthy rival, so all of this indirectly builds up to Uub being ridiculously strong, and Toyotaro threw in Uub having fat Kaioshin's godly power to push Uub to ridiculous lengths.
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>>545346002
I don't think goku being bored works no matter what, because he's still nowhere near to being close to contesting whis or the grand priest. Shit he doesn't even feel like he's fully surpassed Jiren yet. Like what does he speedrun the entire cosmology of super between superhero and EoZ. It would be pretty toriyama if they just went "yeah goku just beat them all offscreen dw about it"
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>>545338442
no idea why that came out as a greentext, guess I forgot to delete something
>captcha is ytard
haha thanks
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>>545346174
>It would be pretty toriyama if they just went "yeah goku just beat them all offscreen dw about it"
Either that or Goku beats someone who's stronger than them, since a bunch of times, if someone beats Goku, Toriyama doesn't do a rematch but has Goku beat someone else who's stronger than the previous guy.
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>>545349254
I guess saying "wow black frieza is even STRONGER than grand priest" would be a way to do that even if it is kinda nonsense
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>>545349471
Yeah. Last I've heard, Black Freeza was said to be near the level of a GoD, firmly placing him still below Beerus. And while Goku has ways to surpass Beerus (In anime continuity, he can do it if he gets UI at will, and in the manga, Oracle Fish claims him and Vegeta will rival Beerus), surpassing any of the Angels just seems to be impossible, as it was never suggested he'll manage... Even Broly who's "probably" stronger than Beerus, was still below Whis.
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>>545350815
I mean let's be real, black frieza isn't going to be the final boss. either frieza is going to get more forms or a real final boss is going to show up. That's just how this series works.
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>having a really good game, both sides are doing fine but we can etch out the win
>During fighting for one of the bosses, me, and two others die to their Goku's spirit bomb nuke
>We ping "Fall Back!" to our Cell who wasn't at the boss fight
>our level 6 imperfect Cell, decides for some unfathomable reason, to go fly in and try to and 1v1 their level 9 Piccolo who 4 snowball stacks
>insta dies in 1 light grenade hit
>Team KO, double Zeno, they sweep.
I don't understand how people like this function irl. How are people so stupid in S rank?
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>>545352102
I had a match hours ago where me and another died killing a boss, we had two towers, enemy team had one and four living members, and the Trunks and Cell to rush in and attack their almost destroyed tower, got killed for it, causing a team wipe, and then Zeno started to attack our towers, and then we lost... We probably would have won the battle of attrition if he just waited 30 seconds, for everyone to be alive and be capable of fighting.
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>>545352919
Oh nevermind, I mixed up matches. Me and Cell died taking out their third tower and failing to escape, then Trunks and Kale decided to Leeroy Jenkins the whole thing.
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>>545351029
Thing is, Freeza is very unusual for the franchise ever since ToP ended. Almost every time a villain is introduced, they're either killed in the arc that introduces them, or so outclassed they're no longer a threat. The only exceptions are Vegeta (Was stronger than everyone, but lost because of countless injuries), and in a way, Piccolo (Lost as King Piccolo, but Piccolo was still be a threat), and even in those cases, they stop being a threat in the conclusion of the next arc. Freeza meanwhile, comes back in ToP, causes trouble in Broly, is still at large in Super Hero. The manga makes it all weirder by creating Black Freeza, who's still at large and stronger than everyone... So while he's no necessarily the final villain, he's still an unusual villain by DB's standards, same way Beerus is an unusual goal for Goku (Since Goku always surpassed anyone who's stronger than him).
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>>545299064
Technically I guess
In the climax of XV1, Tokitoki gets destroyed and repaired at the end, and XV2 came out very soon after 1
Although the actual in lore destruction that prompted transfer to Conton City was offscreen
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>100 zeni
Geez. Would it be that hard to add an extra digit?
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Someone made a Gekishin tournament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUevyvy29ME
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Literally her best design if you disagree you're blind
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>>545359827
Chichi's a cute!
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>>545339223
>shit just happens to further drag out the plot
That's basically Toriyama's own opinion, hence why he didn't like the Buu fight.
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>>545359827
now draw Hidden_Paizuri
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>fight over Kaioshin
>me and Zamasu kill their Vegeta
>get a team kill animation
>in the meantime their Trunks kills the Kaioshin and fucks off
ehhhhhhh
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>>545304678
>>545327202
>>545359827
I don't know how you'll take this but I'll say it anyway, I think you'd probably draw some great cowgirl position point of view
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>>545327202
If you consume a soul made of me you'll become extraordinarily racist and misogynistic.
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>>545359827
>Granny
Fuck no nigga. Her coochie has fuckin cobwebs
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Teammate having a Bojack is annoying. Sometimes it's not even that tey're bad players. I had Bojacks who did everything right. But at the end of the day, they're Bojacks, so they're a dud. I regret not disconnecting at Bojack 9 times outnof 10.
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>>545352102
The game doesn't have rank decay. So eventually bad players go on a lucky streak and make it to S.
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he's so goddamn cool, bros...
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>>545344293
I like Senran Kagura and Beat'em ups
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>>545323991
the themed ones, ie the zelda ones or the dragon quest ones. They still have snooze fest parts cause koei tecmo simply doesn't know how to make games without mindnumbing grind in them, but still if you play them on pc or whatever you can just cheat away those parts and you're done
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>>545359827
holy sex
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>>545369726
>if you go out of your way not to play the game, the game is actially fun i swear
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>>545371952
that's not what i said at all
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>>545372032
You literally said you need to cheat away parts of the game to enjoy it bro
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>>545372231
and that doesn't mean "going out of your way not to play the game" in any way, shape or form. Do people "go out of their way not to play the game" if they cheat the shit XV2 does in the same vein?
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>>545371952
nah, we're not doing that. if you've played Xenoverse 2 you are familiar with imbalanced grinds and the desire to use a mod or third-party tool to raise drop rates or whatever. XV2 is SIGNFICANTLY more fun when you can get all the drops offered by a PQ in a handful of runs instead of having to run them 10+ times cause THE GLOVES KEEP DROPPING INSTEAD OF THE FUCKING TORSO SLOT COSMETIC! lol
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>>545372698
I GOT 10 PAIRS OF GOKU WRISTBANDS AND A CLOSETFUL OF BOOTS BUT NO FUCKING SHIRT! FUCK! kek
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What are musous exactly?
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>>545373416
games where you play a character going against an army of enemies at once. And it's a musou specifically when there's enough enemies on screen to tank the framerate considerably, if it's less than that then it's not a musou
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>>545372632
Yes I am a huge payslut and love giving bandai namco my money for in-game currency
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>>545373492
AKA a Beat'Em up like Double Dragon
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>>545373921
kinda, but it's in 3D instead of sidescrolling and there's way more enemies
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>we never got a double dragon ball Z
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>>545372632
Of course it does. You cheat to skip parts of the game, going out of your way not yo play in a very literal sense.
>>545372698
Don't take me wrong, I'm not criticizing you for doing that. But the reality is that you have to cheat your way out of playing to make the game enjoyable, and therefore, the game sucks.
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>>545374604
>muh literal sense
i knew you were going to go for that, imagine wanting to die on that hill
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>>545374485
what
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>>545374786
Double Dragon x Dragon Ball Z beat em up type game
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>>545374756
Concession accepted, next time just don't argue for the sake of arguing when you know you're wrong.
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>>545374896
y-you too!
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>>545373492
So I can play as a rogue Saiyan for hire who annihilates entire crowds of meta coolers? Why hasn't this been made yet????
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>>545375101
i think they need to go through koei tecmo for it to be made, and they just haven't done that yet i guess. They made like 4 of them for one piece for example
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>>545375101
>secret boss
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Do you think Shueisha or CCT would pull a move like this in the future?
https://www.capcom-games.com/ja-jp/fan-content-guidelines/

If so how cooked are overrated artists like FunSexyDB and ROM@?
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>>545375950
If anything happens in the future, I'll blame the evil credit card tyrant as usual.
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>>545375101
that's the idea. i like to imagine huge beams like the ones from Ultimate Tenkaichi just tearing up and blowing away a hundred Meta Coolers. like in this webm there are a couple camera cuts while the beam is soaring toward Freeza where i could totally imagine seeing a bunch of Freeza Soldiers or Cell Jr's or Fused Zamasu's being blown back and knocked down or completely vaporized. and seeing the giant scar you just carved into the map afterward with bodies scattered around it, maybe some enemies trying to climb back to their feet, it would be KINO.
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>>545375950
Shitcom is a western company at heart, they never cared about otaku the day they told their own artists to stop drawing Roll rape and Chun-Li nude mods.

anyways, chances are very little but they'll probably will put out guildlines for just anyone in the west lol
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>>545375950
Somebody needs to slap the shit outta these niggas and remind them that they're just the guys who make Resident Evil and Monster Hunter. They do not have the motion or prestige to behave this way without repercussions. So fucking corny.
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>>545375950
>the corps have made their decision now let's see them enforce it
—Andrew Jackson, paraphrased
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always remember to feed your gogetas https://twitter.com/coreleSSmoter/status/1908485290639130956?s=19
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>>545359827
Milf sexo
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>>545373416
Dynasty Warriors and other warriors games
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>>545375950
>>545376592
>>545376729
Worst thing is that many Japanese artists are soft hearted and already think about deleting their NSFW drawings in fear of getting DMCA'd.
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>>545377596
part of being in a high trust society is respecting the wishes of strangers.
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>>545377828
part of living as a cuckold to your (((betters))) is acting frightened of your own shadow for shit that cannot possibly be harmful to them
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>>545376787
How is it that in GT Chi Chi still looked plappable where as Bulma aged horribly she's one cheeseburger away from looking like Big Mom, Videl wasn't so bad but her hairstyle looked odd
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>>545367118
You know NOTHING of martial artist coochie!
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>>545380557
I now understand why Baby spared her
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>>545379636
In Japan the community is everything. They have been selectively bred for 3000 years to be good at rice farming, which requires extremely tight knit community values. The individual can and will get shafted for the greater society. That's why you see a lot of bad dictatorships like Maoist China and Imperial Japan in that area.
Scholarbro btw
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Another old bad dictatorship in that area was the one Chinese dynasty that made the terracotta army. That regime was brutal.
TLDR; the east Asians on a genetic value are spineless in the face of any perceived authority. To be shamed is worse than to die.
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>>545359827
>Granny
Fuck yes nigga. Her coochie could have my fuckin "cobwebs" on it.
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>>545380557
>
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>>545271959
I like how Toriyama still drew Goku muscular. Super kinda fails at that
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>>545277247
If you look at GT like a Super Sentai you'll understand why it's so different from the original Dragon Ball (even the "Z" anime)

The characters just stand around and "aura farm" like zoomies would say, the fights are more about making poses and statements like they would in that genre than Toriyama's depictions
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>>545380020
You mean this Chichi? >>545376787 was from a flashback to EoZ era Chichi. Bulma and Chichi don't really look any worse as they age just their hairstyles and clothes. Although for some reason in GT their heads are bigger for some reason which is more offputting than anything. The way Bulma dresses and styles herself in GT is honestly kinda out of character, I'd never think she would dress herself like a grandma regardless of how old she got
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>>545303670
>actual favorite
Driving episode, Trunks tripping balls in the RoSaT, the human team getting murdered by past Saiyans.
>favorite in a mockery way
Vegeta saying that with Goku dead he will rule the universe, then beats up Gohan and flies off, and in the next episode everyone pretends that didn't happen. Also Yamcha almost fucking killing himself with the gravity training ship.
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>>545359827
EoZ chi-chi was proof they can still make her sexy, which is why it pains me that we're stuck with her fucking buu saga design for some reason
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>>545375950
They do not even have to publish such guidelines to pursue legal action, they basically just state the default (akshually even more lenient than the default with the hobby shit, probably so no one could argue they don't defend their copyrights). It's hardly worth of discussion unless you see if they really want to allocate considerable enough resources to make good on any of it (spoiler: they don't).
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>>545381514
Not for long after the Manga ended. Mid 2000s he stopped doing that
>>545382080
People age. I respect GT for attempting to model what the sunset of the Dragon Team looks like. "Attempt" is the key word.
What I don't respect is anyone who finds any of the old hags good looking. GT Bulma, Chichi, and Videl are all the worst looking variations of the characters. Good thing all of them will have good looking daughters soon.
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>>545339223
Buu has tons of great scenes and is carried by its comedy so it's still a strong arc imo.
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>>545379636
>I don't understand... high trust society is when I get everything I want without having to give anything in return, what do you mean sometimes I have to make compromises on stuff I don't agree with to keep the other party happy?
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>>545380557
there is NOT enough GT Chichi x GT Goku artwork
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>>545375950
Holy shit I skimmed over this post and thought CCT was already making guidelines.
>overrated artists like FunSexyDB and ROM@?
>Mentions people that are more influential to the wider Dragon Ball community than Daima is
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>>545383761
It is very strong up until Vegeta's death, then it's kinda hit or miss. Satan/Buu friendship is definitely the best thing about the second half.
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>>545383818
You're literally arguing with a /pol/tard.
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>>545383995
Satan does a lot of good work yes, Fat Buu and Satan are surprisingly underrated characters.

I can't blame anyone for preferring Saiyans/Namek or some early DB arc like Red Ribbon or some Budokai but at the very least Buu beats Cell
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>>545339223
>>545383761
Speaking of good character moments
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As a kid I hated the Mr Satan parts.
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>>545384241
I hate how the objectively worse purple gi is the default Gohan outfit now. I much prefer the black spandex.
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>>545383702
Chichi's daughter?
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>>545383702
GT Bulma looks good, so much that Toyotaro tried to trace her but his manga got axed before he could include his super secretive angel #19 who has a crush on Belmod
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>>545383938
It's gettin' there
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>>545386985
>Goku with any sexual urges at all
Complete spiction
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>>545387126
the dude has two kids
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>>545379636
BASED
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>>545379636
Based and Gokupilled
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I still love the Buu saga for how unhinged it is. It may not be the strongest tonally (I still think it's better than Cell imo. I love how everyone's cockiness all bites them in the fucking ass) but it has a lot of great moments. It's a great capstone arc to the whole series and getting everyone on earth to defeat kid buu is a nice touch.
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>>545386985
The next page should be Goku eating and training while Chichi cries to herself
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it's honestly weird to me that toriyama wanted to do slice of life fluff with the great saiyaman arc, it's not something he ever seemed like he really wanted to do in dragonball and then suddenly hard swerve into wanting that to be the main thing, seemingly
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>>545388630
Well, he hot bored of it quick. But I appreciate trying to do different things. Compared to how the Revival turned out...
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>>545388630
>>545388809
I wish Great Saiyaman was 5x longer... it's an insanely comfy arc. Maybe have some episodes like Yamcha is in Satan City and tries to wingman Gohan with a girl but he keeps accidentally slipping that Gohan's the one that defeated Cell and other wacky stuff.
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>>545388967
I don't really think it would've worked simply because that's not toriyama's thing. He doesn't really *do* padding and fluff like that. Dragonball is an extremely lean story with very little fat, which makes for a great read when binging but I don't think he could just hard switch to making more fluff. Oddly enough this kind of stuff tends to be more Toei's thing, and I think they're pretty good at it going by how much I liked the fluff in super
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>>545389132
Well, the main story in Super was for the most part shit, so fluff was the only worthwhile thing.
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>>545389269
it's not even a good by comparison thing, I wholesale just liked seeing these characters interact with eachother in a non battle setting. Stuff like the wish episode where king kai is desperately trying to get his planet redone while bulma is speedrunning other people's wishes with her infinite money is great
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>>545388321
Crazy how two random literalwho terrorists are the ones who unleashed the most evil Buu and the entire Earth suffered for that
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>>545389132
>He doesn't really *do* padding and fluff like that
You forgot this existed for a little bit. I did too haha. But yeah in yours and his defense, it's been a while since Dr Slump so he probably didn't want to do another slice of life type thing.
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>>545389862
tbf, earth was already blown half to shit by innocent buu, they weren't terrorists they were just people taking advantage of the anarchy iirc
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>>545389986
I did consider doctor slump but I thought it was okay to not count it because it was more pure gags than slice of life with some gags, which I count as seperate things if that makes sense. Though, I haven't read it so I may be off with that assumption
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>>545389862
I just love how it flips almost everything upside it's head.
>Heroes lose not because they weren't "strong" enough but because they make stupid choices since they're cocky as fuck.
>Earth does NOT get saved.
>You want more transformations HERE HAVE THEM ALL, they won't do jack shit.
I can imagine if Super did this, people would fucking rage but Buu was just such a switch up from the regular formula right on the peak of when the formula was starting to get a little old that I can really appreciate it.
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>>545390131
Fair enough, it is pretty much pure gags but it does have a running story. (Somewhat). I like Toriyama's other oneshots but I guess he didn't really want to branch out TOO much. Especially since DB is his baby.
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>>545390201
>>Earth does NOT get saved.
This wasn't really a twist or anything as much as it was Vegeta who fucked it up by trying to threaten earth into giving their Stupid Energy. Also the transformations weren't really ineffectual until the final fight with kid buu, where ss3 burned out. It's funny to me how much super saiyan 3 is carried by its anime transformation scene and wrath of the dragon, and his wrath of the dragon victory was pure nonsense if you actually watch the movie
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>>545390649
I count it. The fact that the villains actually wipe humanity off the face of the earth AND destroys the planet? I know they can be wished back and all but the stakes are still high since if the heroes lose, GG it's over.
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>>545387126
That's a black woman, anon
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idk i don't find funsexydragonball hot, i feel like garland was the best db artist. youngjiji is a close 2nd but i hate the way he draws moving nipples, he also gets clothes wrong too.
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>inb4 sexy shot
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>>545375950
>be company with one of the hugest otaku fanbases
>shoot yourself in a foot because goymerica and european nations don't like that
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It sucks since there's this one SF Capcom Artist that does a LOT OF hot ecchi pics but ofc no hentai
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>One day, at a bar in South City (where they were on tour), Satan and his martial-arts master made the mistake of making fun of Tao Pai-pai’s hairstyle. His master was killed, and Satan was heavily injured. From then on, Mr. Satan solemnly swore never to fight anyone whose true identity he didn’t know, or anyone who seemed crazy strong.
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I gotta say, I don't think i've ever liked the super Kamehameha. It doesn't feel like there's any meaningful difference between it and a normal one and it feels impossible to tell when either one is being used. Like with final flash vegeta had an entirely different pose and everything but with super kamehameha it's just nothing
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>>545392696
Super Kamehameha was only used once anyway, and it was to build up fake stakes by having Piccolo tank it like it's nothing.
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>>545393810
I mean I ASSUME goku is probably using it other times like during his iconic kamehameha moments against vegeta, frieza, cell, and even the "this is a REAL kamehameha" against buu. But it's impossible to tell
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All of this would be fixed if every once in a while they hired artists to do official side stories. I think it's cool they hired DragonGarrowLee to make the yamcha manga. It's a shame they didn't do more.
I especially want to see if Fenyo can do more than just cutsey fanart.
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>>545400626
>death slicer (festival)
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>>545401713
what do the dragon room artists even DO, why did they bring all these people on in an offiical capacity if they're not doing anything
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>>545401796
inject this straight into my veins, dimps. please
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Repub
Trunksbros...
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>>545367796
I had a Bojack last night that threw the game.
3 of us except him died. We had three towers left and they only had one. All Bojack had to do was move back, wait for us to respawn, and we all rush in and win.
He decides to move to tower three of them were attacking and ults. They walk around it and kill him in seconds. Ally team KO, we lose.
I HATE how people keep picking Bojack in S rank. He is not good. Stop with the dumb meme bullshit. Fuck.
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>>545406096
i'm going to be real I didn't even know granolah's dad ever showed up on screen until now. Unless he was supposed to be that one guy who blew up the moon wherein I guess I was speedreading too hard
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>>545406471
I think that was him. I've seen several people refer to him as Granolah's father. It might be collective fanfiction though.
I don't care enough to check. Granolah having a father is irrelevant
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>>545403495
>what do the dragon room artists even DO
Promo art, they were hired as artists mot mangaka
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>>545407256
what kind of promo art have they done? I feel like i've only seen the usual yamamuro and sometimes toyotaro stuff
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>>545403495
>the dragon room artists
No such thing, the Dragon Room were basically organizers, they'd decide on making projects to take undertake and then hire whoever was needed for said project, whoever they hired weren't part of the dragon room, just normal production crew people.
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>>545406894
That's the thing, Toyotaro said that while drawing that scene he imagined that guy as Granolah's father, but he didn't confirm it as "he didn't ask Toriyama about it yet"
Pretty funny if true, on the left here we have the guy who saved Granolah and tried to save his mother, and on the right the guy who murdered his father with a smile on his face lmao
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>>545412281
It always kind of annoyed me that saiyans never use their tail as a 5th limb for fighting. It seems to be fully prehensile and yet no one uses it to prevent backshots
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>>545412483
Raditz and Goku kinda did it but Nappa and Vegeta never did despite 'training their tail' so maybe it's a class thing?
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>>545412643
raditz at best just used it to slap krillin that one time, you'd think it would have been nice to use once goku pinned all of his other limbs when he was holding him for the special beam cannon, but I guess not
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>>545412745
Goku had already squeezed his tail previously, it was probably too risky.
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also I don't mean like "oh they use it on occasion when they're out of options with their other limbs" I mean fundamental part of their fightiing style using the tail to shoot ki from unorthodox angles or get in a quick tail punch.
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>>545413589
>it was probably too risky.
He was about to die, so he should be doing everything he can to survive...
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>>545413904
Making it MORE likely to die isn't one of those things.
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you know, why was goku even able to pin raditz like that anyways, raditz is stronger than goku and even then he could just fly up and smash him against the ground or something.
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>play Squadra
>ally Uub AFK
>the game doesn't recognize jim as AFK
>he starts pinging the enemy GoD while still staying at the spawn point
>I had a fucking AFK bot
The most ridiculous forced loss ever.
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>>545413761
It is hard to imagine them putting pants on prisu understando
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>>545322550
Should probably update the OP
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i'm actually happy the minecraft dragonball thing looks like shit so I don't have to actually engage with bedrock
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>>545414162
Raditz was pretty weakened at that point.
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>>545416185
>takes one strong hit from gohan
>immediately out of action
Truly a warrior race those saiyans are
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>>545413761
Tails are Saoyans weak points. You can train your tail to some degree, but it's still not something you'd intuitively use in serious combat. Contrast with Freeza for whom the tail os really just another limb because it's strong and sturdy.
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Getting hit by CHADhan and surviving is no small feat. TANKditz is strong.
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>>545416381
Goku used it in combat at several points during OGDB, though. It's perfectly viable to use during combat once it's trained, they just dont
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>>545416257
It was an armor shattering hit, that kid was a fucking BEAST
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>>545416116
It's basically it's own side / mini game anyway, you don't actually play it like a normal minecraft game.
It's more like Roblox game.
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>>545406096
guess trunks will just have to settle with his sister
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>>545416578
hopefully DBV will come out sometime this century, it looks pretty good even if it does seem to be experiencing massive feature creep
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>>545416257
He got grazed by a Makkankosappo, had his tail squeezed and then got hit by Gohan was had a higher power level than him during that specific attack.
He wasn't out of action but clearly weakened enough for Goku to at least keep him in place for a few seconds.
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>>545416456
Even trained it's still presumably much weaker than arm or leg. It's probably just not worth it. Not to mention saiyan aren't exactly about smart fighting.
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>>545416719
Dragon Block V is DB's equivalent of Lisa The Pointless's Monster Update IMO
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>>545416751
I dont think a glancing hit on his shoulder really contributed much to that, and once your tail is stopped being squeezed the weaknesses are just gone
>>545416852
Just let me cope okay I want cool space monkey antics from the space monkeys
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>>545416918
what's that, i've never been into the lisa series
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>>545416719
swapping to an entirely new engine from being a minecraft mod is definitely some of the biggest feature creep i've seen
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>>545416719
>>545417141
Quicky runny downy?
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>>545417374
There's really not much to say, basically some other dudes are trying to make their own sucessor mod to the original DBC mod, it's just that they're getting bogged down adding a bunch of stuff like space flight and aging and omnidirectional movement and blowing up planets. Like yeah those are absolutely cool features but I would like to just play a workable minecraft mod sometime this century
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>>545417557
if you can sense ki through the timestop why didn't they just do that to see who's around?



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