Broken edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>545251623
Unity games don't feel like real games. There's something wrong with them I can't quite put my finger on.
>no one even noticed it's a DirectX8 Game Engine running on Windows XP
>>545321723I just played one and it felt like a real game.
>>545321840What a sad cope.
>>545321801No one cared because we're to busy using unity and godot to get shit done to notice stupid things like that.
>tfw when I was interested in game development back in the 2000's>tfw dropped the idea quickly>tfw had i decided to gamedev i'd have had ridiculously great odds of success despite the terribly low quality artI could have been a legendary Flash dev. But nooooo I dropped the thought of being a gamedev and didn't attempt until the late 2010's when the Silver Age had begun. Oh what's that? Golden Age lasted almost a decade? Surely the Silver Age will last almost a decade too!>Silver Age speed runs to Bronze Age in under 3 years>Bronze Age speed runs to Confetti Age in under 2 yearsThe Age of Confetti. Bro's I was alive during the Diamond Age!!!! I missed it!!!!
>>545321587
In the 2000s I was making games with the Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds scenario editor. You can do a lot with the triggers and effects in there. Even back then you didn't need to code a engine.
>>545322134when I saw flash's ActionScript I noped the fuck out
>>545321921You may not like it but it's the truth.
>>545322134The Age that's coming is going to be even better than Platinum. It's going to be pure consciousness. Consciousness is the most valuable resource.
better to buy Adobe and run via wine or to use FOSS?
>>545322265You could also download Quake 1 and 2 source code and mod it to your liking
I always will respect a dev who either uses his own game engine or something unpopular
>>545322134I couldve released a game maker game topdown roguelike shooter during the late 10s but then I fell for troonity and 3d meme and projecthopped
>>545323086Engine devs don't make games. They are codemonkeys who create tools for real game devs to use.
>>545322876Adobe doesn't work well with wine, so if you don't need to use Adobe shit you should probably find alternatives. Gimp is still fucking awful though, Krita and Inkscape are usable, Aseprite is best if doing pixelshit, Blender is good for many tasks, I use Shotcut for minor video editing.If you're not sure install linux on a partition or another SSD and see how it goes. I still have my old windows drive and can mount it in linux to retrieve files.
>>545323145>late 10sit was already over
>>545323086I respect people that finish gamesAnd I respect people who finish games and do marketing even more.
>>545323262thank you for the detailed synopsis.I am already on Linux.
>>545323257That’s bullshit but I believe it
>>545283574No clue but I also find it annoying when I can't find one either. I saw a game with art that looks very fitting for mine and not all the art there is self made, one is by a program I've seen online for creating certain stuff. Yet I can't find the fantastic looking tileset, assuming it isn't self made.
Zoomers have this notion that the engine restricts you but it doesn't. Name one limitation of unity or unreal engine. They're just tools.
>>545323784>name one limitationLicence
>>545323901Like if you sell after a certain threshold you have to pay a fee? So what?
>>545323145Marmo.....
bros, wtf. I have enough data of 3D models I made over the years that I can train my own model. wtf.
>>545305446>The Great Conjunction is what I am calling a weird period of time where the genres that are “easier” to make are also the games that Steam players are hungry for. Gamers are begging us to make them games and luckily the games to satisfy them can be produced quickly.Based. Thank you for sharing this with the brethren.
>have to split my houses up into multiple sprites to handle z-ordering properlyI'm not making this demoday, maybe next time.
>>545324194I wanted to be a flash dev so bad when I was like 11-12, I was fascinated with flash games, but it never happend since I had no internet and no Flash program
>>545324268Winners win.
just when i thought it was over, i suddenly realized it was even more over than i orginally thought.
>>545324268>“I read Chris Zukowski’s Excellent Blog articles on this and he identified this genre and inspired some other developers to pivot their projects into the Vampire Survivors genre and they succeeded! And then I thought ‘ok we can do it as well!’”>Soren Lundguard of Ghost Ship GamesKek why is triple I company acting surprised? They've got a huge fanbase. Of course it's going to sell well.
>>545322265I've been making custom maps and mods for Unreal Tournament (1999) since 2002 and still do...
>>545323784>zoomers have ____ notionno they don't, and if anything older generations will dislike engines more>unityfor example, I saw a video recently where a guy added 3D terrain to his 2D pixel art game, he had to rewrite the entire tilemap system because it lacked features to do it well>unrealthe workflow is made for AA+, it's too convoluted for indie. it also relies heavily on screen space and temporal solutions, which are ass
>>545324548SOULSOULLESS
>>545324194I am not m*rmo
Would you spend 4 years making a game if it was guaranteed to make you a multimillionare by the end of it?
bros I don't think I'm gonna make it to demo day, I've been trying so hard but all this shit is way more time consuming than I thought.
>>545324603Ding Ding DingWe have a real dev here, how hard was modding UT?
>>545324676I've already spent 3 years making negative dollars, of course I'd take that you retard.
this world is not my home. I make my games, have a little fun and then fly away.
>>545324676very stupid question.
>>545324730I got a gut feeling an alt command conquer 4 is that
>>545324548still better than fygoon
I might be fucking retarded
>>545324395Yeah dude this shit is tiresome as hell.
>>545324676It's not like I have any other option.
>>545324453I just wanted to be a gamedev and probably didn't even know about Flash game's at the time. Iirc it was when my family didn't have a PC at the time. So many easy to make game's, I could do that and the requirements for art weren't even high!
>>545324937I wanted to make a stickman game
>>545324268>the safest thing for most game developers right now is to stop development on your current project, and try out a new fast-follow micro genre, with the goal of releasing it within the next 4-6 months.
>>545324676Kek of course. Beats my current trajectory>no idea when it'll be done besides an estimate of around 2 years>no clue how well it'll do besides a simple guess of around 750 reviewsI'm probably being optimistic as well.
I've never seen a Zukowski video
would you rather receive $1million USD or get stung by a bee?
>>545325136
>>545324395Don't wait until your demo is perfect, that day will never come.
>>545324395>warmth orb has snowy treesliterally unplayablealso why even have such big buildings get in the way, when you could just cut them short like the sims or something?
>>545325416Somebody beat me to it they became multimillionareshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1486920/Tempest_Rising/Well guess i got to play it then
>>545324268Genre's experiencing a Great Conjunction:>Friend-slop>Idle / Incremental games>Horror meta-genre (various subgenre's)>Simulation>Rage games>Autobattlers>(MAYBE) Vampire Survivors gen 2I suck at gamedev, they'd be at best low quality game's in many cases. Also friend slop is out of the question, I'm slow at devving. Adding coop on top will slow me hard unless the game is super simple.
>>545324728my perspective was skewed because I started with game modding really young, but mapping with existing content is easy. UE1 has a lot of weird shit that I just got used to a long time ago but the community patches make the tools significantly better. The reason U1 and UT99 have a bajillion community maps and mods is because it's so easy, and no complex mod managers are needed to use custom maps, no fretting over "load order" just pick and choose what you want when you start a match. Ever used Thief TDP's DromEd? UnrealEd2 is a million times better. UnrealEd1 was written in visual basic in 1998 and it's still better.Modding is so nice in a way because projects can be as large or small as you want, and you are never creating something from nothing.Workflow-wise, UnrealEd2 really different from trenchbroom or any modern engine tools. Is it "hard"? no. If children in the early 2000s with no youtube tutorials could figure it out, you can too.
>>545325642Fair but also there's a bunch of other shit to do like finishing the map which also requires more assets, its just not ready. On the plus side next demoday should be around january which would make a snowlike more topical, for northern hemisphere people at least.>>545325847>>warmth orb has snowy trees>literally unplayableNow have to make the snow melt the more warmth you have.>also why even have such big buildings get in the way, when you could just cut them short like the sims or something?The buildings are there to get in the way. And I was making the houses semi-transparent but the z-ordering issue was still there. Now I have this outline shader I want to use it instead.
I used gamemaker when a very long time ago im such a point dexter. Really.
>sniffs the airNot smelling any melties about ecelebs. He must be asleep. We probably have another 2 hours of peace, savor it. The zukowski article is very interestinghttps://howtomarketagame.com/2025/11/04/the-optimistic-case-that-indie-games-are-in-a-golden-age-right-now/
cris wonned bigly
>>545327637
>RV There Yet has had over 100,000 concurrent players and according to their patch notes it took them just 8 weeks to build.Don't tell methings like THAT
>>545321723A poor workman blames his tools.
>>545326465I'm already making one of these but I have been struggling to accept that I need to release it ASAP.
it's too bad I'm autistic, I can't understand the appeal of friendslop or how to make a good one
>>545328406debunked
>>545328467coped and roped
>>545327959and this is a man
>>545327959No kidding. I spent maybe 3+ months on procedural generation!!!!
>>545328417Maid Cafe anon? If yes, I really think you should. It feels like you got trapped in same problem I do when making games, unable to cross the gap indescribable gap that moves your game from "in development" to "done." If you're not him well what do you think is holding you back most?
>turn your main project into something elseI got so many IDEAS GOING THROUGH MY NOGGIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vagFoNnzrHkHow dificult is to make my own 2D to 3D AI model?
>>545329132>If you're not him well what do you think is holding you back most?The idea of needing a game with many hours of gameplay which for a linear game like mine would guarantee I still have years of work left. So now I am considering how to pivot the gameplay mechanics and gameplay loop to drastically reduce scope.
>>545324734Not so fast.
>>545321587Can someone give me a suggestion as to where to go next?>Basic movement done>Basic combat system doneWhat next?
>>545330749add enemies, then a level, then a path that goes from Level A to Level Z, and then a VN cutscene between some of those levels.
>>545330749test levelfill with enemies or hazards/interactablesthen make levels with thosewhat kind of game?
>>545330749Add stuff that you imagined having when you decided to make the game... What the fuck is this question?
>https://www.polygon.com/gaming/611853/peak-steam-game-sales-survival-game-making-of-development/>“Our general routine was to wake up and go for coffee, come back and work until lunch, go out for some food and discuss the game, come back and work, go for dinner and discuss, and then come back and playtest and take notes for the next day,” Galen Drew, art director at Aggro Crab, tells Polygon.People who are professionally focused on games in the indie scene are operating on a whole different level. They are living and breathing gamedev 24/7 with the goal that it will end on a deadline.
why is every creative general like this>abloo bloo bloo someone else progressed their skills in less calendar time than me>someone else made a lot of money>aislop makes us irrelevant>no one can "make it" unless they win the jackpot and be that 0.01% of indie devs, artists, musicians, etc>defining "success" in any means other than financial is a cope!you will be so much happier if you stop worrying and just like make game
>>545331460I think you're a little too affected by gorespammers 24/7 melties. Nobody here is upset about any of that.
>>545328769
>>545330993Good point!>>545331017Hack n slash
>>545331078Unironically sounds like BiteMe
Self shill post:TOMORROW, Nov 5th, and FRIDAY, Nov 7ththe /agdg/ showcase will be live at 7pm EST at https://www.twitch.tv/nine_ten.Be there and check out what your fellow aggiedaggie devs have created!
>>545332263Current list of games.If you messaged me, or replied to one of my previous posts and you don't see your game on here, just bitch in the thread and I'll add it to the list.The list was randomly sorted as to give each game fair, and equal opportunity of being seen.Looking forward to checking out (you)r game!
>>545331460because thirdworlders were allowed onto our internet
Added a more final product polishing touch with a ouch bubble UI for damage taken
>>545332474I don't post my game in this shit thread. If someone emailed you and they're not on this list, that's a wrap.
A scammer on the v3expo Discord is sending private messages offering a free year of "Claude Code" and "Comet Browser" for game development. They provide a referral link to the Comet Browser, which earns them $3. The scammer then instructs you to log in with your Google account on your mobile device to "sync" your data. This will give them access to your personal information, such as your Gmail and contacts, across multiple devices. I tried telling the owner of the Discord, but he blocked my private messages.
>>545332581see >>545331705t. thirdie
>>545333173I feel like I'm stroking out reading this.
>>545333016Since you decided to shit on my Steam reviews page it is only fair I show your people how far below me you are.
>>545333208Yeah betz we already know you're scamming people you've been talking about it for a while now.
>>545332474Also forgot 2 other games;Pogs, and Interrogator 2.They're in the list
>>545332474why are you wasting your time playing old flop games? Like new ones I get, they still have a shot, but shit like pogo is done and gone.
>>545333440MojitoGOD... I fucking kneel
>>545333440>already has a game released that's better than boku>already hs a tech demo for the next one which is also better than bokueric must be seething lmao
>>545333704I'm playing games that got sent to me to showcase.Depending on timing, I might take a look at more stuff that's in the demo day list as well.Wanting to show my community what /agdg/ has been doing, or finished in the past year+ or so.I asked in the original posts for people to recommend stuff too, but really it ended up being people sending their own games.
>>545333440BOKUXISTERS....
>>545324268>Journalists LOVE to cover suffering developers like the poor guys who spent 13 years making their game ROUTINE.>This SUFFER FOR YOUR ART attitude is not healthy. It is not fun. It shouldn’t be valorized the way the press does. I know it makes a good story, but it isn’t good for you. I hate how new indie developers read SUFFER FOR YOUR ART lit and think this is the path forward. Please don’t be a martyr for game development by spending years on a single art project.
>>545333238Man you need to stop sleeping for 4 hours at a time fix your life. How can you function being in the thread 30 hours a day.
>>545333440>4 reviews>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1798950/Mojito_the_Cat/lol
>>545334654BOKU HANDS TYPED THIS
>>545321723Silksong doesn't feel like a real game?
>>545334769No but I did laugh at the idea of bokube bullying someone with a flop game and that person saying he is better than bokube, with 4 reviews
>>545334178protestantism equates suffering and hard work with virtue, and material wealth as a reward for virtuous behavior: only the wealthy should be allowed any kind of pleasure or satisfaction in this life, and their wealth is proof of their virtue. It's a horrible lie that takes a lot of work to unlearn.
I haven't posted any progress in two weeks I think. The reason why is because the code turned into spaghetti and any kind of feature adding or bug fixing turned into too much of a chore. Plus there were some parts which needed re-writing. It was a risk as I wanted to submit to demo day and I had no idea how long it would take.Finally I have the game back to as it was and it is more manageable and features like the player card swiping / stat calculation works alot better. I still have a couple of small bugs to fix, and hopefully add some stock menu music. But I should have a version for DD.The demo won't be too feature rich. But Pass, Shoot, Tackle, Save and scoring goals will be present.
>>545334178My game when it sees me reading this.
i'm NOT project hoppingI am notI am actually just dissipating burnout on a smaller project while I work on my big one
>>545333016Release the game right NOW!
The PlayStation can produce mind-boggling effects.
>>545333440this looks way better than Osh, take notes this is what a platformer should look and feel like
>>545335289Ill let that one slide
>>545335830incredibly Kino. Custom engine?
>>545335830kanna...
>>545335289Is this how women play soccer?
>>545335461Is that you and youre a xitter holy
>>545336034Nobody on here knows how to do anything without unity or godot.
>>545335612He's not listening. He has no sense of urgency. If he did he wouldn't continue to pop in here with these little nothing updates. It never ends and it will never end.
>>545335830they look like they rape loli elves
>>545336243i rendered a 3d model in vulkan
>>545324268>>545325051I already dropped 1 game for this one, what does he mean I should drop this one too!!!! I'm a failure, this one is already starting to look unfeasible too.
>>545333440he's still being an asshole and a retard, some things never change
>>545336034No, it's Unity. Sorry.
>>545336505doesn't matter, even if he was a nice guy or not. his game looks like an example project that ships with a game engine.
>>545336505wtf 70k views and most of the comments are positive? NO BOKU YOU CANT LEAVE CONTAINMENT
>>545334178To struggle and to suffer is to live. In life you only get to choose your suffering, if you refuse it is chosen for you.
>>545336243I'm actually building my own engine. I know a lot about Vulkan actually.>>545336601still intensely kino.
>>545336807Twitter engagement converts poorly into sales. Especially since Bokube won't be released for another 3 years.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30svoacCHYs>8 years ago>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlK67jy2GV0>coming soon>1 year agoMojito Woody Rescue does not look as good as Bokube 8 years ago, but neither does Bokube today. Woody Rescue seems like a genuinely interesting and fun game in comparison to modern Bokube.
>>545336502This conjunction is fucking me up.
>>545335461>be me>super small fanbase for my game>basically unsuccessful>go to a cafe to dev in public without internet so i can focus>busy drawing some animations that need to be put in game and then coded>working really hard and in the zone>loud clap noise>see this beauty staring at me>points at me & points at the teabag>points at her mouth & points at the bowlW-what did she mean by this fren's??? I was too scared to ask so I ran home to ask you guys. Forgot to save my art so I have to redo it too >-<
>>545335289>>545336197>women's sports but it has kino violence
>>545337115>he doesn't know what the teabag mouth bowl gesture meansVirgin alert!
>>545336807>NO BOKU YOU CANT LEAVE CONTAINMENTNeed to release the game first. Every progress post about some stupid shit that isn't involved in publishing the finished game to steam is proof that Bokube is stuck here forever.
thanks unreal
>>545336405Skeletons would never do that.
>>545337371
>>545337371lmaoooo
How long should a $5 game on Steam be? What genre of games are people most likely to buy?
>>545337371just regenerate the skeleton
>>545330749Overoptimize things, add easter eggs and start a new sideproject
>>545337782porn game. 2 hours
>>545337839as in reimport? doesnt work
>>545321587Will proper lighting help make this environment feel more realistic? I feel like my proportions are a bit off
>>545338014No on the options for the skeleton there is s button that says regenerate. Damn i forgot how i fixed it last time.
>>545336505the dumbest part about this is that the ToonSoulz fag has a history of posting about his mother dying then deleting and reposting it each day for the pitty likes, why not just dunk on him with that shit
>>545338223Roof is way to tiny, fluorescent tubes should be about 1.5~2 chairs wide
>>545336505This kind of attention could be really great for him if he had a game for people to buy.
>>545324268Good good... Gamers will be exhausted from the indie slop cancer of 2025 and 2026, my 12 year passion project will stand out and they will flock to it for the cure. they will never tire of it will they...
>>545338472>why not just dunk on him with that shitwhat kind of bokucrab do you think I am?
>>545337371Unreal helping you telegraph the attack. Looks more obvious that he puffed up
>>545338223Yes having ceiling lights like that but everything is clearly lit from some lightsource in the middle is very uncanny. You should place multiple spotlights instead.
>>545324268i think this is because people are stressed out and tired from work and want easy and simple games that they can mindlessly play when they're bored of scrolling tiktokthe difficult part for developers won't be creating these games, but instead will be coming up with ideas of which the fantasy will have a strong enough appeal to compete with other games of a similar naturethe average indiedev fails to understand this state of mind because it's understood that gamedev requires intense amounts of time and effort that only a chronic NEET or underperformer is willing to provideif you're willing to become an indie dev, the odds of you suffering through the wagie life enough to be able to understand what the average gamer desires is lowbored NEETs with infinite energy and free time and zero stress are making games to appeal to people similar to themselves, when the average gamer wants a game that appeals to miserable stressed out wagies who hate their daily lives and desire a low effort fantasy world to escape into after a 12 hour foreskin scalping shift at the amazon adrenochrome factorythere is a complete disconnect between indie devs and gamersthink of it as a "let them eat cake" moment
>>545340363tldr make easy gamesbonus points for having an appealing fantasy/story/theme/narrativebonus bonus points for having an addicting progression structure that motivates players to grind your game after the initial appeal wears off
An hour listening to some guy explain how the hell you generate 3D from a 2D image. And the fucked up thing is that it's all hype and bullshit, and it's just an NN that encodes images into latent space and anotherNN that decodes them into a voxel model. Literally, those assholes spend 500 billion on that bullshit.No, dude, just give me 5 trillion USD and I'll do a massive recursive linear algebra multiplication to make porn wifus.And the funny thing is that videogame CEOs are more hyped over some CS math thinking is some skynet satanic sci fi BS with super SOVL over what fucking is, just a calculator doing some BS math problem.
>>54533680767 replies67 67 6767 676767 6767 67 67six seven
>>545340640i told u this weeks ago cris
>>545340363sound like love tennis
>>545337702THATCH ROOF COTTAGES
>>545340640maybe take less medication cris, your bipolar disorder has clearly elevated you back into your delusional retard phase.
>>545340735normies have sex, this won't work
>>545340891no they don't like 75% of young men are not having sex or prison sex
My post is good, AGDG just ignores meMy post is good, AGDG just ignores meMy post is good, AGDG just ignores meMy post is good, AGDG just ignores me
>>545340985wtf really? i guess that makes sense, i probably only remember the people who talk about sex while forgetting the ones who don'tpeople still have porn though, it's a difficult market to compete in
>>545340363Some games are meant for no-lifeing. WoW took a huge dive catering to "dad gamers" and hasn't recovered. Instead it just kept expanding it's favors to appeal to everyone except the core audience.
epic megajam
my game almost has a 1:100 review ratio
I hate video games and your game is the worst-sincerely the crabdevs
>>545340640can I have a link?
so lets say I want to make a game that can run on both pc and ios/androidI keep the fidelity super low and stuffI don't need to do much in the editor right? I can just kind of build input for mobile devices along side pc?
Everybody ignores my progress, even the crabs and schizos. I give up for real this time.
>>545341616https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vagFoNnzrHk
>>545341665*notices you*
keep making games
>>545341616why is that bunny built like that
>>545339082>that spoilerkek'd....k-kek ;_;
>be me>making new game>supposed to have online gameplay>see that Unity 6.3 is coming soon™>just focus on making stuff that won't need a complete rewrite to work with online>several months pass>running out of thingsI'm cooked bro's! I thought it was going to release a lot sooner but I'm questioning whether it'll even be available this year! However I have been contemplating just making it singleplayer. A few too many things are making me sus that development is going to get slowed hard by trying to make the game multiplayer compatible. Not because the current stuff needs it since that part should be easy as it's primarily just passing data. It's more so that stuff yet to be added needs to function well enough in a multiplayer setting and I am not confident I can pull that off in a reasonable time frame.
>>545335035I mean, he is, though. Boku has 0 reviews.
>>545339082No, gamers won't get tired of fun games with interesting concepts. What is tired and already worn out though is calling everything slop to cope with being out of touch and miserable. Gamers don't care about that or think like that, just talking heads who want to be /ourguy/ and hipsters from /v/.
>>545343426>waitfag>unityfag
Fellow luddites, our response?
>>545343648this gets posted 3 times every thread. my response is the games look like straight ass and I do not care. goldeneye 007 on the n64 still looks better than whatever ass that makes. I'm pro-AI, btw.
>>545343648where are the lolis?
>>545343648>please please please respect me for using AI to make a mod for a game nobody talks about pleeeeaaaaaseWhy do you care so much. Why do you need everyone to validate you and say wow yeah AI is so great at gamedev good job for using AI.
>>545343791>im pro ai>i don't care about the progress of ai
>>545343648>be playing game >make castle >walk around castle>make beer>drink beer>exit game cause its boring and gayThank goodness mathfags atleast have no taste
>>545343895>using AI to make a mod for a game nobody talks?? schizo moment
>>545344082Did you just describe valheim lol
>>545343984progress of AI is good, I have no problem with it but assuming it's going to create entire games on its own and have them be good is just retarded. it lacks any and all artistic vision. it's great for programming and even some forms of art but just prompting AI "hey make me a FEAR like game but cooler" isn't going to make anything substantially interesting. Use AI to code, make models, textures, don't care but the pieces still need to be put together by someone with SOME kind of vision.
>>545343984He's right tho. Being pro something does not mean you must be a delusional cultist for the thing.
>>545344245>>545344308>assuming it's going to create entire games on its own and have them be good is just retarded.
>545343648>545343984>545344128>weakbaits for attention for the keks>seethes at every reply insteadEven as a shitposting nodev you are hopeless.
>>545344245Who talked about AI creating whole games? The example I posted is clearly someone directing it, are you retarded?
>>545343648Hello sirs I am trying to develop a game with use for AI that has a headquarters and becomes a company that will be a system. I need a developer to work with me on this huge project. It might take her 9 months or more depending on the work. When the team is complete, the work will be divided, legal agreements will be signed, and so on. The way of work is voluntary work At first with his future participation in A percentage of profits or returns after publication
>>545344245>the pieces still need to be put together by someone with SOME kind of vision.That's correct. Gamedevs will be using AI to make games while anon basically posts them everywhere and says "See I told you I was smart for adopting AI early". This is all he will ever be able to do. If he was able to make a game with AI he would be posting that instead. Or more likely not, because it would look terrible lol
>>545344402>>seethes at every reply insteadthat's why xe does it in the first place, deep within xe wants to be a woman, xe has the behavior already
>>545344583i said it earlier programming could be plain english but its not. Hell cobol was close. But we're not using appletalk or cobol we use python atleast.
>>545344661So trvke schizter. But of course xhey call everyone else "woman brained" and "woman minded". xhe projects so much. I pity xhem.
>>545344541The video posted clearly implies the creation of a game from as few prompts as possible. I didn't make or post the video but the implication is clearly there.>>545344764>cobol was close to plain EnglishYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Cobol is closer to assembly.
>>545344583Who said I'm not? And before you say it looks bad, post your game.
>>545345073No its just an english excel sheet
>>545345104this looks like a fucking mobile ad bro
>>545345073>I didn't make or post the video
>>545345196Learn to read
>>545341442I love video games. There are so many great video games coming out on a daily basis that I never find myself wanting for more games. My backlog is huge and it can only ever grow. Whenever I look through this thread, I almost never see a game comparable in quality to the top games releasing on Steam. How many of developers here are making a game that stands a chance at even making it onto New & Trending? Probably not even 10% of the devs here.Sincerely, King Crab
>>545324647Then stop posting bocchis.
>>545345254I could post Snake or Pong and it would look better than what you got, you're an idiot.
>>545345254Make it mobile. 5.8 billion costumers reach and no steam fee.
>>545345104>>545345254waste of time talkin with luddites, its like trying to convince a loonie to not be crazy
>>545345104>Who said I'm not?You, with your actions.
>>545327637>tris count
>>545345346Yeah, you could, had you made them, you filthy nodev crab.
>>545345510Nanite will fix that.
>>545345196>>545345254It looks good actually but anon is right, that's the most mobile game ad looking game that has ever been posted here. You should be proud. You keep baiting agdg and then being hyper defensive it's so weird.
>>545345429you people with hard-ons for AI I truly believe are completely braindead and are essentially hoping for the day to prompt "make me game like halo but with warhammer characters". Nobody is even shit talking AI, AI is a good tool you're all just acting like it's going to make you a AAA game from the golden ages of gaming with only a handful of prompts because you all have the attention span of a goldfish.
>Learn now enough ML to understand how AI models can be implemented and trained>Realize that all the magical BS AI will do magic marketing is just crypto NFT BS all over again to scam retards they can make now easy money
>>545345712so true xister
>>545345589Whats your gameWhats your gameWhats your game
The conjunction is calling me.
>ai art is le ugly>ai art is le bad>ai art won't let you make itdelulus, femboy futa house alone made 1.2+ million in 2 months
joshua >>545344934also joshua >>545345429
>>545345737Yes it's bullshit but this time big tech companies are passing the same big ball of money around between themselves. And these companies have practically unlimited cash reserves that they previously had in offshore accounts that they couldn't bring back without getting slapped with a tax bill. So despite the daily articles about AI data breaches, limited applications, etc that would pop any other bubble, it's probably going to stick around for a while simply because big tech wants it to.
>>545346616The smartest and most powerful economist said it is not a bubble, I'll trust him over random strangers.
>>545346505No I'm just imitating him, except trvke schizter that's my invention, do not steal it.
>>545346730Do you trust him over Sam Altman?
>>545346820Yeah, Sam at the end of the day is a CEO, and you don't trust a CEO.
>>545346201Yes satan has a lot of money.
>>545346730I don't think Karl Marx ever wrote about AI
>>545346201I fap to AI porn more often than non-AI porn nowadays.
>>545343648comment in the other thread destroyed this btw. you are posting a ghost.
>>545346950So trvke schizter.
Here's some jblow playing with AI image genhttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2604821806?t=00h13m08s
>>545346201>fetish game made for gooners was successfulthat's purely marketing and luck. summertime saga has made significantly more than that over it's life span.>>545346730AI is and isn't a bubble. It's like bitcoin, it's a bubble in the sense that it will eventually pop and destroy everyone milking it but the big boys are here to stay as will bitcoin always be THE defacto crypto coin. There's probably a better term for this but all these AI wrappers and shit will definitely implode but things like claude, openai, gemini, etc will be around to stay for a long time.
>>545347040you tell him sis, that comment has been #cancelled
>>545347187thanks nigger
>>545343648>>545345104This is all part of a disturbing trend of people who are using AI coming to this thread to validate their guilt about it. Because you know it will get called out as AI and not respected as much, so you need to basically make the thread a discussion about AI at all times to wage war on people who just want to make games themselves without AI.
>>545345589BASED
>>545347119>things like claude, openai, gemini, etc will be around to stay for a long time.Those are the only ones that matter, though.
harvesting asiatic clams in minus ten degrees celsiusnever give up!just like make game!
>>545347621forgot image lol!
I should make more bangers like this but I'm busy actually devving atm
Why have these threads gotten so much worse in just the past few years?
>>545348491lack of progress recaps. one anon did one a few weeks ago and it was great. I'd subscribe to his patreon if he did it weekly.
brown?
>>545348729bricks
>>545347553That's my point, I just think everything around those companies and models will end up just imploding and failing with maybe the exception of some AI models like deepseek and qwen from the chinese.
>>545348491This site is dying, so it's like 50% bots, 40% antisocial retards with nowhere else to go, 9% NEETS, and 1% masochists.
>>545348491because you keep replying to him giving him attention>>545348726recaps?
>>545348726Yeah, this mostly. You can talk about how it was the gradual shift to e-celeb obsession but that came about from lack of progress posting which came about because of lack of extrinsic motivation via the weekly recap. It starts with the recap.
>>545348825Yup after the hack a lot of people didn't come back they're finally free
oh you motherfuckers, listen: steam revenue calculator says trainwiz made 43 fucking grand net from 366 reviews at $19.99. HE is fucking saying that he has fucking netted 300 fucking grand. now use your retarded brain and wonder for yourself for a moment, how in the FUCK, could he possibly net 300 fucking grand off of a review estimation of 43 fucking grand? riddle me that one, retards. we're talking 7 fucking times difference
posted it again award
What kind of mental illness is this called again?
>>545349198>£
>>545343474You sound like someone who defends mobile games.
>>545349198Hey when I'm as successful as trainwiz do you promise to become my personal schizo bitchboy? I've always wanted a retard harem
>>545348726You would rather watch another man make his own game than make your own game? And you would even pay to watch? This is like cuckholdry for game dev, isn’t it?
>>545349583I'm saying that when people actually made things and had a motivation to make things, it kept the retard schizos and ritualposters at bay.
>>545349583that's not what the recaps was. this anon put my dev footage among other devs footage as a recap for that week. felt good.
Do you like in-browser dungeon crawlers? Possibly have some kind of brain damage? Come, play TARDQUEST!https://milklounge.wang/tardquest/
Another day, another schizo trainwiz mindbreaks into spamming...
>>545349519Why do you need to be successful to have a retard harem full of men?
>>545349767do you mean these? or something else
>>545349727No it didn't lmao
>>545349198i also want you jackasses to know that i will NEVER be letting up on trainwiz after he pulled this bullshit. i will raise awareness in every single thread. the fucking numbers are right there. and i will not be fucking going anywhere. i will continue to raise awareness about his grave lie. you can take a look at that pic too for reference on how the breakdown works for steam sales. he's a fucking piece of shit liar and i guarantee you that he will eventually speak the truth on this and you fucking retards will make me king of this place after that's done after realizing that i am maintaining this movement as one person and was right all along
>>545349998the old one was hosted on a site.
>>545348491Daily /v/ threads ruined agdg and the /v/ gamedev threads.
>>545337371not sure how useful this is to anyone, but I fixed this by stop keying the tweak bones of rigify, still unsure what's the actual root cause tho
>>545348491thirdies
>>545350085*like this!
>>545350063
>>545341323nolifers are being consumed by ranked pvp grinds in eomm 50% win rate multiplayer gamesfully captured audience, only the casual wagies remain
>>545350353How many of these games made it to release? The answer to that question might be why no one cares to do recaps anymore.
>>545349198>>545350063>pocketwatching
>>545350063>i'm going to shit up these threads endlessly because I am normal
>>545350063can you behave like a normal person? you act like someone who gets raped in the ass by his dad every single night
>a guy in another thread said something I don't like so I will come here and spam this shit forever because somehow it's /agdg/'s fault
>>545350496maybe. surprised they went for as long as they did
>I add murder to my game and nobody cares>I add rape to my game and then suddenly everyone loses their minds
>>545351760The "valhalla isn't agdg" schizo isn't going to like this one. Maybe he's right. Actually finishing and releasing a game disqualifies you from being a part of /agdg/.
>>545351760these are cool, but I wouldn't envy the guy having to1) moderate it, and or 2) make a scraper and website to do it automaticallythis reminds me, both the new /agdg/ game lists in the OP are dead as fucksad
>>545350063Coward retard won't go into the /v/ threads to say this to his face but will sit here and make us suffer through his cuckoldry, fuck you.
>>545352208nevermind the vercel one is actually still adding games, but both of them stopped updating the fanart page for some reason
>>545351760released:https://store.steampowered.com/app/447530/VA11_HallA_Cyberpunk_Bartender_Action/https://store.steampowered.com/app/356580/Aerannis/https://store.steampowered.com/app/893710/Mercenary_Leto/https://store.steampowered.com/app/386160/Vampire_of_the_Sands/https://store.steampowered.com/app/336380/Catmouth_Island/
>>545352129la société
>>545352129Do it, remember hatred? That game sucked but it got popular because everyone talked about it.
>>545350063Nobody cares about this
>>545352567So the advice is: release a game that will live in the shadow of a game like Hatred, or release a game with weird creepy sexual themes like the dozens of titles proudly available on sites like Itch? Interesting strategy
>there's 6000+ results of trainwiz in the archive and I don't even know who he isplease someone answer:>who's trainwiz?>what's his game?>what did he do?yeah I'm a newfag
>>545353028he's a faggot but his orbiters are bigger faggotsthat summary will be $3.50 with tip please
>>545353028he made undertale
>>545353028Go ask ChatGPT
>>545353028>yeah I'm a newfagWhat game are you making?
>>545353028He didn't make >>545349850 so he's not very notable, I'm afraid
>>545353161>but his orbiters are bigger faggotsI like not wanting you to spam your retard shit makes people orbiters.
>>545353028he made choo choo charles
>>545353028Seriously answer: famous skyrim modder who started the thomas meme trend and made underspace, which is a space game.He used to be a staple of these threads and had this one schizo dev who hated himhe left after the game came out
>>545352754This is a great gif. Reminds me I already missed all of Season 3.
>>545353028https://store.steampowered.com/app/1111930/Underspace/
>>545353357write better, you sound like a retard with that sentence structurebut by orbiter I include the schizos who hate post about him all the time, I'm just sick of hearing about faggots who don't even post in the thread anymore
>>545354031nice
>>545352801Make something controversial. But work on your reading comprehension first.
>>545351369what a very strange and odd projection, anon. are you doing alright tonight?
>>545354698no, someone made MONEY and that makes me MAD
>>545354131My reading comprehension is fine. Unlike your advice, which is simply awful
>>545352129>a game about kissing cute little girls is too far
>wake up as everyone else is going to bed>peak dev hours>brought to you by Mountain Dew and Taco Bell
I liked when fygoon entered the thread and started calling everyone vile rodents and stuff then just got instantly deleted lmao
I have to finish reading the zukowski article. It's very long.
thank you for all your replies frensI already found that spam retarded but now holy shit, the things that crabs do lmao
>>545354952kanna...
>>545354125ya i like this cat
>>545355917I wish cat. I wish...
>>545354952arisu....
why can't AI do this work too
>>545356474It can, you just need to break what you are doing down into steps like you would if you were teaching someone else to do it.
are there any successful games actually made using the unity engine? or are they just rendered in unity and running on their own engine. i know everyone mentions hollow knight as a unity success, but I'm pretty sure its not actually made with the unity engine its just using it for rendering.
Where's Bundev
>>545357475Are you stupid
It’s still cheaper to pay a human to do the busy work, rather than pay an Engineer with a CS degree to train the AI to do the busy work.
>>545357556yes but why do you ask
>>545357591Oh. Well fair enough. No they're not some sort of engine emulated in Unity like Bethesda did for Oblivion. Team Cherry's games were made using Unity's visual coding shit.
>>545357684oh, i must have misread, or got it confused with another game
>>545357591Unity is closed source, nobody is rewriting the renderer or using it separately from the engine.
>>545357746Why would they even do that, it's not like Unreal where it looks particularly good
>>545357421Someone reposted the video I made some time ago >>545345589 so I decided to make something new for fun, I'm not a musician so I'm just messing around applying crossfades for smooth transition out of bad partshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPQ4Yhb14z8
>>545357746well there are some games that basically handle all gameplay logic (collision, physics etc) with their own custom shit and only use unity for the actual graphical stuff since it is a pain in the ass to do that from scratch (namely battlerite), which is more what i meant.i've seen this too where people run all their shit on a separate game thread as opposed to unity's main thread and just use unity to render the stuff on screen, admittedly that was just in demos.>>545357838shit is easy as fuck, prolly
>>545357551hospice
>>545357746>Unity is closed sourceimagine using a closed source engine. same as using windows
>>545357574>the title engineer belongs to anyone who took a couple cs courses and got a degree in collegeyou fucking zoomers i tell ya
>>545358110I use MacOS because the guy who wrote it Avi, was nice to me.
>>545354031Man I remember this running like shit when I played the demo but suddenly I'm getting like a solid 60
>pausing and unpausing a node causes area hit detection to be triggered each time, rendering the "enter area" signal worthlessThanks, Godot. The only way to get around this is by coding in a manual safety check on a two (2) frame delay each time you unpause. I may as well not use the signal at all.
I don’t Linux anymore as my main OS anymore because Linus wouldn’t approve my commits I needed to the kernel for my indie game.
Seriously, Avie is a really stand up dude. One conversation with him and you would switch to MacOS too.
>>545349998bottom row, 2nd from the left. what game is that?
>>545358680I'm too invested in windows. plus the guy who wrote it, seetharaman naranayan was nice to me on the phone when he called to tell me about a virus I had.
>>545359424Avie called me because he needed help with his industrial digital cinema theater projector he has in his mansion.
>>545359632YOU were behind that? dad was pissed and fired the wrong guy
I just imagined her chewing in my ear.
>>545321723Most unity devs dont bother to change the default shader and lighting stuff so many unity gamed look samey.This is also true for unreal etc
>>545359721They know who they are, they need to lose that contract.
>zukchad can pinpoint exactly when friendslop startedThis is why I listen to him. He has the same sharp observational skills as me, a genius.
>>545359945well now there's no theater at all so..
>>545360163
>>545360398kekaroo
>>545360163or you know, co-op games are fun and there was a lack of supply but high demand for years until thenlethal company (and other such derivative phasmophobia-likes) in particular sucks though
>>545360264There is a screening room, with a small digital cinema projector, that is connected to the digital cinema network, and nothing else. Either or they were lying to us, and that projector was elsewhere, but there was definitely a projector I was remotely logging into in the DC area.
>>545355713>transwiz
>>545360550I also went on base and fixed the projectors on several military installations. It’s not that big of a deal really, there are literally hundreds of us authorized to service projectors on military and government installations.
I feel fucking stupid learning through unreal messy documentation, it's a mess compared to their recommended course plan. Shit wasted my time.
Every schizo, chiefly 'Goon, lost BIGLY and will be here seething for eternity
>>545360163can you pinpoint a single game that chris zukowski has made, however?
>>545360557isn't that guy French?
>>545360686>reading docs instead of using aingmi
>>545360760no sir, you, zoomer, are not going to make it and my post declares that official and effective immediately
Fatfuck gabencunt... You will pay for this.
>>545360941Why not both? I use the AI to document my code with doxygen comments, then generate docs, and feed the relevant parts back into the AI when requesting changes.
lock in
>>545358010
>>545360941>being 30+ and thinking he can make itok unc
>>545361158You're not allowed to make it in any industry without being 30 there is a invisible hand by 30+ professionals that will make sure you dont
>>545361117Caffeine and mushroom time. I’m jacking in. About to make 16Mb of memory space my bitch.
>>545361103>doxygen@grok explain
Bros, I'm kindda thinking about setting up a llc in Cyprus. No US with holding tax, 2.5% corporate tax for vidya, no dividend withholding taxes for non-residents.
>>545361237Quit revealing the secrets of the secret sect of Illuminati C developers or we’ll come after you in Minecraft.
>>545361249>/**> * @brief Controller class for robot movement> * @details Handles basic movement operations and speed control for the robot> */>class RobotController {> private:> double maxSpeed;> std::string robotName;> > public:> /**> * @brief Construct a new Robot Controller object> * @param name The name identifier for the robot> * @param speed The maximum speed in meters per second> */They look like that, your source code gets scanned by doxygen, and doxygen automatically creates a navigable HTML site with all of your codebase.
>>545360163I'm playing one of the games he mentioned (Roadside Research) and can definitely see how an indie could make a game like this in under 6 months and it will succeed.
>>545361295Setting up a Cypriot LLC is less advantageous than it seems because, as a U.S. citizen, you are still taxed on your worldwide income, and Controlled Foreign Corporation (CFC) rules may subject company profits to U.S. taxes immediately. Furthermore, sales to U.S. customers on Steam are subject to a 30% withholding tax, which complicates realizing the lower Cypriot rates. To even qualify for Cypriot tax residency, your company must have a tangible presence with a local office and management, adding significant operational costs. In conclusion, you are retarded.
Good morning to CIA schizo, joshua, cris and fygoon only.
>>545361737Sorry for being a boomer, but who are the first two?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riz-CZlfeGoIt'll never top IGMI
>>545360520>or you know, co-op games are fun and there was a lack of supply but high demand for years until thenAbsolutely miniscule IQ take. Leave the thinking to the big boys and don't hurt yourself mmkay?
>>545361683Delaware : )
>>545352567That one dumbass valve employee who overreacted and banned it made it popular. I hope they were fired after that. Hatred is edgy but it didn't do anything that other games hadn't already done.
>>545360550is there still a screening room? how long ago?
>>545349850looks cool but I'm not gonna waste time of my day by playing whodev's game
>>545361896I have a feeling am the one being referred to as CIA schizo. I approve.
>Marketing is super charged>When you pick a game that is in a Great Conjunction, the “Steam Meta Rules” don’t apply because steam shoppers are so hungry they eat anything that resembles the new trend before it is even fully cooked.>Consider the Friend-slop wizard game Mage Arena that quickly amassed 9000+ reviews, a peak CCU of 17,000 and a capsule that looks like this:
>>545361983well thank you for letting the general know how knew you are deep down, anon
>>545361956Was it in there? I wasn’t given knowledge to its physical location. I’d bulldoze the whole thing too if I looked very deeply at that companies links to China.
>>545361683>you are retardedThe world is retarded for denying me the human right to set up shell companies.
>>545362109yeahhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/white-house-movie-theater-demolished-ballroom-east-wing-1236408712/
>>545362064>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3716600/Mage_Arena/The voice acting in the trailer sold this game.
>>545362157Haha! I’m the reason they had to bulldoze a whole wing.
>>545359632>>545362236Are you done?
>>545361956>>545362157Wait, why are we talking about some cinema in DC being torn down again? How is it gamedev related?
>The Chicoms are putting computer viruses in the White House walls!>Buy my game to find out how!
>>545362379He's in his daily manic schizo "meme" ritual where he pretends it's entertaining for everyone to be a babbling retard.
They question my dev skills, then get mad when I bring up my sick exploits and drop names.
>>545362442it is funny to me desu, better than bochi/eric/cris/fago posting, at least for now
>>545362217The premise is people saying the spells out loud over voicechat like actual LARP wizards which is hilarious.
They can’t make games, so they’re jealous that I’m actually a real dev who has shipped code. Any one have an actual game dev questions they want answered?
>>545362442>daily manic schizo "memeI didn't see anything of the sorts yesterday or day before yesterday (except for gorespammer but that's a different league)
>>545362538>it is funny to me desuIt's really not due to the hyper realist almost AI generated quality of it. Conning people into reading discussions that are completely baseless. It's the most vapid and truly soulless shitposting I have ever seen and it's no surprise that a "person" who spams gore thinks it's funny.
