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JO Kings and ESL GANG anons, you should have seen a message in your respective chats about the mergers ongoing. please take your pick from one of the following guilds. if a guild has 0 slots, it may still have week-long inactives the danchous are willing to kick, so ask in the thread.680062178983 - EudiePlapper851607664396 - Elluviaverse122066259564 - Shadowbabs817253747768 - /SVG/550011421438 - Paizuri203149711350 - EssVeeGee368820995170 - 4LeafClovers427026012287 - NoFunAllowed576606695461 - CuteAndFunny932072921863 - Magic Sands455272193501 - Maid4U382492074799 - Shadobabs
piece of shit nigger game filled with mindbroken retards and bugmen cock slurper
Vampy will save Aggro Abyss in set 5!
>>545487228Need pics of danchous. No one wants to be in a guild for ugly people.
Just matched with my old guild lead (I got kicked out for being afk the entirety of set 3 after hitting gm day 2), and he fucking roped every turns. Not very tanoshii of the man.
https://note.com/shakapachikawa/n/n19712bb95dc0important article!!
but enough about shadoba 2
>>545487543Thanks for the guide, sis.
>>545487525Phew, good thing this isn't about me. I know because I don't rope, I'm just retarded!
So haven discarded all new cards and went back to crest?
>>545487525I think he missed you and just wanted to spend quality time anon! :D
>>545487806they run the gallon lady
>>545487897do you bother with sandal for the potential cum chalice > sandal 15 damage face burn
>>545488453Aren't they both 6 pp?
>>545488669Wait nvm. Being retarded, I forgot you can play cum chalice in advance.
My advice for anyone trying to funmax is to try a new class each set>be me>set 1: swordsissy>set 2: roachgod>set 3: roon>currently dragooningMakes it hard for the game to get stale
>>545487806more or lessi'm experimenting with vira over jeannepeople play the dogshit destroy random / draw 2 amulet, will probably take them a month to figure out that it's trashtried sandal for memes, he's awful, you have gilnelise for extra reach
>>545489070Stop writing like a 12 year old who spends too much time on tiktok.
>>545487806Storm haven plays with a lot of the new cards for a 4fun tier 2 deck
>Dies to sword before any cards can come down>Fun?
>>545489376more like a tier 9 deck
>>545487806It's a meta thing. It's not better overall, it's just better right now
the guild chat is actually not the same anymore now without a daily schizo melty
>>545490443who? the retard guy in topaz having a melty about sword?
Why does evolve get multiple channerus every month?
>>545491683people actually spend money there
I regret spending money on this game.
i honestly hate ward haven more than anything else.
>>545492064Yeah fuck board decks only OTK and storm should exist
>>545491992why am i so erect
>>545491992sword has been "strategically saving their evos" before this set btw according to some people
>>545492165when your board deck is so grossly overtuned and bullshit everyone else cant play board then your deck shouldn't exist or get dumpstered by decks specifically made to counter you.
>>545491779Proof?
>>545492064>>545492165I hate ward haven because it doesn’t play into havencraft identity at allIt’s just another flavor of midrange sword
Topdeck...
>>545492175>sees albert >gets erectyou cant make this shit up
>>545490443He is gone. You can stop with the bullying already
>>545491992skill issue.This is the best and most balanced meta ever, kudos to the devs.I'm personally having alot of fun with my fairy evolve deck, aggro bats and amulet heal haven. Ward haven is also great and tier 1 contender.
>>545492357The game is still alive after 18 sets
>>545493113Spoonfeed the fairy evolve deckThe aria alfheimr roach deck doesn’t work anymore in week 2 meta
>>545492165Few months ago we were crying that board decks are unfair
>>545492348But ward has always been a bad deck, beating only roach in previous sets. Abyss, rune, and midrange sword have consistently had better boards as well.
>>545493251Cut roach embrace evo packagePlay like tempo early game, copefully you have sandy and cupitan ready for late game
>found myself playing ranked AFTER clearing chests for the first time since SummerIs shadoba, dare I say it... tanoshii?!
>>545491683So how is the physical game? I saw a couple matches on youtube but of course I don't play it, too poor for trading cards.
>>545493386Does this still run aria?Otherwise I don’t see how sandy in forestcraft is supposed to work better than sandy in dirt runecraft, and even those players are getting iffy on sandalphon
>>545490171>meta thingholy copethere is no metagame where wardbricks can be good, there are infinite good answers to them (ones that aren't completely worthless outside of this specific matchup), and their cards are straight up fucking terriblehave you looked at them, tried comparing them to what other crafts do? you play a 3pp do nothing brick, opponent plays a dude with 2 attack that kills it. awesome stuff! your big payoff for playing garbage cards is playing a 7pp+sevo "big board" which is unironically comparable to a ~7pp big board generated by any board deck, be it norman wall or abyss congregants, except they aren't forced to play terrible cards to enable thisthe one edge is that it's a more proactive deck, but that's just a theory as the deck is unironically slower than crest when playing against someone who doesn't randomly concede
>>545493639>sandy in forestcraft is supposed to work better than sandy in dirt runecraftIt's not because forest is bad and rune isn't. The difference is rune doesn't need to play sandalphon because the rest of the deck is good. Forest has to run him because everything is bad.
>>545493639Copied from Dayan's list
>>545493751>>545493765Thx bros>3 catAw fuck there goes my vials
>>545494354Beware tho it's still badGood luck anon
>>545494494I’ll tale anything that gives me a better fighting chance against all swordcraft decks, ward havencraft and evolution abyss that’s starting to creep into public meta
>>545487228waiting for the 1hour timeout after leaving guild
are you terrified yet?
>>545495002get this shit out of my face
>>545495002shit on my face
>>545495002I'm scared stiff
>>545495002Why does every abyss card clear the board + build a board + leave behind a game ending body?
whos arvess
>>545495002
>>545495314this nigga
>>545495314Her spear.
>>545495631ohhh
why do i feel like some games I just get mega high rolled against and I just can't do shit about it
>>545496093forced 5050
>>545495002Imagine the smell
>>545495262You forgot they also heal :)
Is this the most overpowered card in the game? Literally almost every deck use it since drawing two follower while leaving a body has no downside.
>>545495002I've seen worse
grim
>>545496430>Are we in Wonderlands Dreams 2?Yes.
>>545496430
>>545496430women be drawing cards and men be throwing damage randomly around heh..... am i right
>>545496598Dayan keeps changing his list brosSo roach isn't even good anymore...
>>545496698>sv1tranniesnobody wants you in these threads
>>545496802kill yourself
>trannyrage
>>545496698It's weird thinking about the SV1 cards that were meta defining
>>545496430At this point in time with shadowverse 1 wonderland dreams it was also filled with neutral slop curve
>>545496790Roach is completely unplayable now that rune is playing dirt and loot got one turn faster.
SV1-Gods run this place
>>545497004Dirt isn't particularly strong against roach even still. Part of the reason it's so good now is roach death, but Norman boards were easy for them to clear and anything later than that puts dirt at risk of OTK. Ward Haven aside, huge abyss boards and aggressive sword lists give roach much more trouble
When can I safely surrender if there is no chest?
>>545497181first super evo turn
Why do all my favorite decks feel like they need to win coinflip just to run their gameplan
https://x.com/1nCRzIHzQnImV95/status/1986108977399333008pure crest beyondenjoy sis
>>545497267Your favorite decks come from set 3 where everything was a coin flip deck
>>545495002SEEEEEEEEEEEEX!!!!!
>>545497267The entire game starts on a coin flip for going first or second
>>545497319but evo abyss is a set 4 deck...
>>545497316I've been running a Rodeo package in my ward list so I know how sick he is in this meta but man it's sad not to see either new legend
>all the anathema came back into relevance in this setSoul
>>545497316Why no castle
Lapis will get aura next balance patch
>>545497746burnite kun
>>545497851She's surprisingly playable right now since games are long and less decks play Odin. Still not good but I've won games with her which I can't really say about set 3
>>545497814you mean tablet i assumethe dogshit 3pp draw/destroy amulet can serve a similar purpose
>>545497970>games are long and less decks play Odindamnaa1 ruby gaem meta sure is wild nowadays
>>545497970???Literally every deck except some abyss lists have banish.
>>54548526711-6infinite pooppets in this shitter bracket i guess someone must've shilled the deck on jewtube
yeah... sorry... I went 2nd so I'm the better swordie, oh and I have 3 Odins in hand and you have zero for some reason.
>>545498548https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCJX6c3HqPM
what's THE egg list?
>>545496430Only sword doesn't play this.
Are there any guns in SV?
>>545498894yes there was a whole gun expansion actually
>>545498894also sword maid
i'm so mindbroken by wilbert being negative tempo loss from getting hit by odin or velharia or aether being BELIAL'D resulting in being down 2 evolution points for nothing that i slapped in neutral package and aura followers in haven as cope
>>545498948I liked Anvelt a lot
I like how the straightforward evo effect buffing followers in sword are normally overstatted after evoing... except Peppy scout for some reason.
current set fucking sucks eos soon
>reina>7PP use EP to evolve your whole board>nehan>6PP evolve your whole boardOkay, where is the drawback?
>>545499557-2 damage to your face
>>545499125How do you justify 2 aethers when you absolutely need her to do anything.
>>545499125>Sara>YuniIt's pretty interesting how the selection process of Granblue characters put into SV2 seems to be all over the place, so to speak. That is, they chose characters from througout the game's history, instead of just putting the most obvious and popular ones. Lyria, Gran and Djeeta are a given, Katalina too, although she's not quite an obvious pick these days. I even so Philosophia there.
>>545499689third aether copy always dead in the hand in my experiencei feel like my early and midgame are a lot better, but i don't have healing so this deck fizzles out lategame...
I didn't want to play crest but you forced my hand
>>545499769What about Ferry? Surely she's not that irrelevant
>>545498548it's the start of the season so 1550 is not shitter at all
>>545500054Carried by having been important in the past but almost completely unused these days in the main game. I like it that they use all these old characters in the spinoffs and collabs.
>>5455000811600 is the starting point..
>>545499769i wasn't playing anymore when yuni was around but she's cute
>>545500391She is. Also from an anniversary event (even if it was a pretty terrible one), so it makes sense that she gets a card.
>>545496646>>545497002You can't just call an expansion wld 2 every time there's a widely used neutral card in the meta
>>545496997I don't understand, how is this card good?
>>545500972good old times when the game had a semblance of balance, WBbabs will never know
>>545496802tourist
Vira is such a disappointment. It only does anything against rune.
>>545501279
>Damage to your leader is reduced to 0 while this follower is on the fieldI remember times when removing a 3/4 was a bit problematic.
>>545496802bases
>>545501415I don't remember the time where I asked
>>545500972It can ping face and it was a set 2 card
>>545482675i'm using this so yesobviously she's broken and 3 is ideal but a perfectly minmaxed decklist clearly isn't that important if even this piece of shit can find success
>>545500693>Same core in every deck>One class is tier 0>Top deck kills you around 6 to 8pp with completely unstoppable damage to faceHow is it not wld 2???
>>545501558Me neither.
>>545501691complements are not core, retard
>>545501691>How is it not wld 2???because legends rise was wld2 with ruby, phildau, dingdong, satan, etc. this is wld3.
is olivia in evo abyss cope?
>>545502085if you're doing 2 card combo then just use nehan with a skeleton generator
>>545502085playable, some run 1-2
>>545502279what's 2 card combo?>>545502351thanks, I might try one since you can search it with Lydia
>>545502450how many cards are you playing when you use olivia and want to use her effect??
>>545502508The main use I think of is basically a Lydia into Olivia for a double SEVO to discount Belial more, nothing fancy
>>545502562but you are using a super evo needed to accelerate belialwhy you don't want to use nehan
>>545502639I am going to use Nehan, I was just thinking of slotting 1 Olivia as a tech, it gives you heal and 2 mana too so maybe there are turns where you can Lydia Olivia Satyr. Just wondering
>>545502079None of those shitters is used in this meta
>>545502845i didn't say they were. can you read?
>>545502759nah just stick with fediel for that
>>545502085you can think of it like this.you use a super evolve to get your belial activated 1 turn earlier. which actually doesn't speed you up at all, and olivia board is just too weak now. but she isn't bad I guess, olivia with bat is good healing and draws are always good. there are lists that do run her as a 1-2x
Olivia can finally rest knowing a 4PP can draw 2 followers
>>545497316I play a similar deck but less anti-aggroI'll try his list even if my winrate is already high
>>545502845don't call dingdong a shitterit's true but don't say it
Does she activate evo effect? Sarissa's barrier, for example.
>>545503329Of course not
>>545502902>>545502913thanks I'll try it just to see but I see your point. Wish she healed for more
>>545502085She is kind of shit don't do it
>>545502508the go-to olivia target is bat
>>545503659the go-to fediel target is bat too
i got master level thirteen
>>545501279Tasukete...
>>545495262>not the 7pp do nothing that requires a retarded amount of setup and is completely unplayable in every abyss deck except evolve!haventroon should kys
Well anon? Are you going to measure up to BIG S+++ this time around?Or are you going to show another disappointment as a pathetic tiny s(guild)ize?
What's your opinion about Katarina in Ward Haven?
>>545504123Great until you remember every deck is full of split body evolves and bane and hard destruction
>>545504123win more card for warddoesn't stop hard destruction like another anon said
>>545503329unless it's specifically worded as "when this follower evolves" instead of "Evolve:x" she doesn'tthat's also why the 5pp lego from forest is so shit. yeah it evolves your first played follower but a lot of times it actively fucks you over
>>545504123she's only good on turn 5 evoing against decks that don't have a proper hard removal (do these even exist?)
>>545504123Discount Vira, the only time she's useful is when you need something to block storm followers turn 4-5 (mostly dragon)
>>545504079my guild is s(ize)++ which is the MAXIMUM btw
quickblader on 1 going first is the best feeling ever
>>545504905>dollfucker or puppet cat immediately kills it>doesn't matter because the single attack already put your opponent in lethal rangehe needs a nerf
>>545487228thank you for your work, danchou!!!!I never noticed how strong eudieplapper is! they reached s++ with so many vacant slots and inactives
Haven - 6pp destroy all followersAbyss - 7pp 7/6 destroy all followers Skybound - Win the Match in 4 turns Super Evolve - Win the Match
>>545505038>>dollfucker or puppet cat immediately kills ithe needs a buff
damn I'm good
>>545505232>ForestBro how are you in emerald playing sword?
>>545505121>Haven - 6pp destroy all followersNot against egg followers
stormslop killed the game
>>545505121>Abyss - 7pp 7/6 destroy all followers
So Evo Abyss is tier 4 without streamer rigging right?
>>5455055188pp give oguri cap to your opponent
Convince me not to craft a puppet deck
>>545505518>>5455056598pp my wife gives oguri kyappu to the enemy
>>545505518>Bonus PP 9pp 13/20 Destroy 4 followers, heal 4gg
Super skybound is too clunky, getting 15 takes way too long even with evo followers
>>545505754you should have one by now. it uses only 3 new cards(1 legendary)
>>545505754Deck with the same gameplan as sword but weaker and not even cheaper
>>545505812point was she doesn't die to belial
I play puppet Portal because I want to fuck the hebedolls, dont put me in the same league as swordsissies
>>545505989i know but still she's shit
>>545506007based and real
>>545505629Yes, all the stars in the universe need to align 3 times for the deck to just be able to get its gameplan goingYou need early drops to contest board, you need Belial by first evo turn at the latest, you need to have a full board for Nehan by turn 8 at the latest, you need to drop ssba Belial by 9 at the latest, you die to intimidate pre-turn 7 so dragon shits on you, you die to sword because turn 8 for nehan healing is too late, it's actual dogshit. Play mode instead unironically
i play sword because i want to fuck the princesses and maids. dont put me in the same league as swordsissies
>>545504123best ward for portal
>>545501279I feel that. She sounded so based, but in a meta full of board clear and instakill cards she's really weak.Wardhaven in general feels unplayable now that every class has a dozen ways of instantly clearing the entire board and getting some extra effect on top.
>>545489130Haven has no way to trigger Sandal, it's straight up unusable in the deck. 0 free evos, aside from the dogshit unplayable one that requires you to pass your turn with 2 followers doing nothing, or waiting til super skybound procs on a fucking 8 drop. They really just straight up gave the class 0 free evo enablers in the free evos expansion, what a joke.
>>545506170this was why i ignored loot and kept playing mid last set, yes
buff zooey
>>545505923The deck is a pushover until higher CR?
What am I supposed to do against that?
>>545506630Play sword
>>545506121How come most evos I face seem to have no issue with any of those? >you die to intimidate pre-turn 7 so dragon shits on youAlso, whatever happened to that 1pp card that kills someone?
>>545502079They were used for lack of alternatives, and due to small core set, retard. WLD is WLD, because the neutrals are better than everything else before it. There was nothing else before Legends Rise, it's the first fucking set, so people were forced to play everything to fill up the holes in their decks.
>>545506712yeah and this isn't wld either. that's the point. dumbfuck.
>>545506630puppet clears that and puts bodies on the field
>>545506630play blinding faith and then shut the fuck up
>>545506121I think mode is generally stronger too, I don't agree with you entirely though. but I do think evo abyss will see play in tournament, I think it's better than izudia at least
>>545506630Haven is dead this set, Anon. It's a good moment to switch to another class.
I haven't seen forte in quite a while.
>>545506895look down
>>545499125i've settled on a decent brewrodeo pulling tablet and luminous censer makes surviving the endgame a lot easier nowi don't feel bad about losing wilbert at all, galleon makes the aether pull chunky enough and i have one free evolution point i can play around with like activating salefa or evo katalina
people already forgot what wld was actually like, i'm still sad i forgot to save those playrate/winrate piecharts but i still remember the playrate of neutral blood being almost 70% and the winrate for going first 62-63%, for second 58%
>>545506657>>545506802>>545506891Wait, maybe I'm not losing
>>545506707>tier 4 without streamer rigging>tier 0 with itThere's your answerWhen you pop off the deck is unstoppable, I had a guy leave 2 1 drops on the board turn 6 and I played 2 skellys into Nehan into Fediel into ssba Belial sevo into turn 8 Belial sevo and the other guy could do nothing about it, I had a 2 pp bat spell and another Nehan in hand too.But the odds of this happening are vanishingly small because you need too many things to align and you don't have any card draw except for grandjeeta
>>545507296Nevermind
>>545507342Streamer rigging is a joke people use to meme with, using it in a serious argument makes it sound like you're just whining. The game doesn't seriously rig shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niAvPRFjUgcit's up
>>545507516nobody in this general is worth engaging with unless they show their results btw
>>545506630this is the one of the few play patterns where the DOGSHIT 3pp amulet is actually decent (!)what you do is you play the DOGSHIT 3pp amulet on 4 and DON'T USE IT (it will glow. resist the temptation)then you play congregant, kill the 5/5, attack the 4/4, use amulet>wait this means i have to plan ahead????>and like, predict what the opponent is going to play????>and i take 2+4????yes, yes it's a shit classplay sword and click on random glowing cards if you don't like it
>>545507035You can look through old patch noteshttps://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0139 this was deep into it but still
>>545506630maybe play faith on 4 instead of useless 1/4 shitter, then play it on 5 along with heal amu
>>545507673what the fuck is forest coping withthe card offscreen is 2x kou % you
2 or 1 sandalphon?
OCS in a couple days won't be streamed right
>>545506707>How come most evos I face seem to have no issue with any of those?That's your confirmation bias at work. If the deck was consistent people would put it on tier 1.
>>545507941I think 1 is better for the mind game2 is better if you are actually looking to win with him
>>545507709Wammy
>>545508001That jap site already does.Anyway, whatever happened to that 1pp spell? Do people not put it in the deck anymore?
>>545508159GameWith is a meme.
>>545508159one day you'll learn about tempo and you'll learn that just clearing the board is not the best game plan
>>545508198>streamer rigging
>>545507761yeah this was their official one but the playrates from sv labs or whatever the precursor was were much higheronly found this screenshot of all the cards that got hit with a nerf
Week 2, what decks are you anons starting to settle on using?I've been liking these three decks depending on if i feel like playing fast, going for the grind game or tryharding.
>>545508872deck so broken it only had room for a single copy of razory claw
>>545493413There's quite a few changes from normal Shadowverse. It's overall a much more interesting and compelling game. The Evolve system is way different. Not every follower can evo. The ones that do each have a different evolution cost. Going 2nd gives you 3 evo orbs, going 1st gets none. Orbs can be used to pay for 1pp of an evo cost once per turn. You can use the orbs and evolve as soon as turn 1. (Turn 1 Celia is gross) Followers can be tapped (it's called engaged). This matters a lot for combat and activated abilities that have an engage cost. Combat is quite different because you can only target engaged followers for an attack. Attacking causes your follower to be engaged and leaves it open to be attacked. It makes combat interesting because sometimes you don't want a follower to attack to do something the following turn. Sometimes you'll leave your wards unengaged so they purposely can't be targeted, etc. There's a keyword called Assail that lets you attack unengaged followers. Fanfares in digital are activated when played from hand. Fanfares in Evolve are activated when the follower enters from anywhere. This can lead to some fun shit happening. There's an actual graveyard, so graveyard checks are frequent for counting Spellchain, Necrocharge, etc. There is quick speed interaction in the form of quick spells and quick activated effects. The timing window isn't like Magic where you can interact after everything, there's only two times you can quick: on a follower's attack or during the end phase. On the field, under the main zone is the EX Area. This is like a second hand that's public. Effects will often put cards and tokens into here. I love SV Evolve and hope more people can get into it. It's genuinely a great game with every new meta being pretty fun.
>>545509071Uninstall Witch until sword nerfs
>>545509071Finished my 50 wins on forest with dayan's tempo evo hybrid list, moving on to portalCan I see your puppet list?
>>545509171Here's the Octrice Evo for example. The green diamond is the symbol for activated abilities. And yes, you can pay 8 and select your opponent's D-Shift and take infinite turns.
If Vyrn was real, would you try and pet him?
>>545509609Yes, but only because he's voiced by KugiRie. His design isn't really cute at all.
>>545509482Mostly generic puppet list. Eudie kicked out for better neutrals.I cut Zwei to 2x because kept bricking on 3rd copy in lategame scenariosPuppet Theater 1x for going wide with Zwei / Medical AssassinLu Woh for the mirror puppet matchup but I haven't been drawing him recently
I never win against spell rune because I can't bring myself to kill this creature.
i love viraeven unbuffed, if the opponent doesn't have a destruction or banish card, they have to jump through so many hoops just to rid of her and then you just plop down another one
>>545510007
>>545510104Haven is the auto lose to Odin class
>>545509986CR?
>>545510263Where's the schizo who pretends statue seraph was a good deck in DE? haven right now is the same trash as it was back then.
>>545510348I don't have one since I bounce between topaz - sapphireThis is more teched towards the growing amounts of evo abyss and puppets in my range. Check SV-wins for high end decklists
>>545510369Storm Haven was good in DE though
was the loot archetype a thing in SV 1?
>>545510654Yes
Anyone here is high CR with loot?
I have much to learn.
All cards that say random just hit oldest and aren't actually random no?
>>545510895>tfw never be able to steal Vaserega's or Wilbert's LW
>>545511521no they're random
>>545510654Yes, it was quite different though, the last iteration of loot was sword roach
>>545511521they're not random when your opponent plays them
>>545509986>I cut Zwei to 2x
>>545511860I'm always open to sharing decklistsHow'd you build yours?
>>545509549Wish i could find a site to import these to brazil, it's the only tcg i can't find it
I'm intoxicated again, I'm gonna tease danchou today
What would you do?
>>545510104i griefed a dragon player today by playing vira back to back
>try out crest after suffering with ward>brick after brick
>>545512526Heal out of lethal range from Odin and the Gil token while pushing face damage
>ramp into wilnas>winThis dragon shit is easy as hell
>>545512526wilbert supplicant heal destroyif you play some nonwilbert shitters they'll die to edelweiss+anything and then you die to sandal
>>545512526wwhere's the benis
>>545510654Yes and all of them but the last one sucked or too hard to pilot for your average shadobabs.
>>545513368>>545512774Almost died>>545513453It's this deck >>545497316
>>545512697I griefed a haven player by stealing his vira and playing it against the second vira.
>>545513621that crest haven decklist has some insane ratios to barely pull that offjapanese playerbase are some wizards
Is dirt supposed to have trouble with dragon running burnite?
Any use for this guy? Other than being vials now that I have 3.
>>545514073No one is running burnite
>>545514335Helps you get to the next match faster against sword.
>>545514354WITNESS
>>545514354Averages are people running 1 burnite tbough
What happened to loot? This general won't shut up about sword
>>545514994Hardest to pilot deck
>>545514795Source?
>>545514335You throw him down before your opponent plays a storm follower and he nerfs the damage like Odin becomes a 1/2 or SEVO Albert can only hit 8 now
Hardest deck to pilot in shadoba history is loxis forest