Nemsy eating spaghetti EditionPreviously>>545311192 >Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck trackers & statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/expansions-adventures/across-the-timeways - new expansionhttps://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>helpful linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex' article on gaming mentalityhttps://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shit
sick and fucking tired of infinite value bullshit
Nightmare fuel
This new meta sucks
We are so cooked if this is the way the meta shakes out
what's a fair, measured way to nerf test dummy?
nerfs and buffs next week bros hold on
>>545579286its going to be the same slop controlpiles as before since the devs hate anything but elise dragonslop
What happened to AI dueling? It used to be in the solo adventures.
>>545580528Mech warrior is sitting at 14% and imo is currently understated due to refined decklist and perhaps people not knowing how to pilot it. It is seriously good.
>>545580753its going to get nuked because its a turn 7 otk. the only thing cora hates more than aggro is combo, because heckin wholesome control piles can't beat combo decks
>>545580753That deck is just control warrior with like 4 cards from the mech package
>>545580938It's OTK and it's quick OTK as well.
monk will save usevoker will cement us
>>545581001It is otk but it also has many control tools to stall because it‘s from a tranny class
2026 is the year. We have just few months!!!Be prepared for the Monk release!!!
>>545581213Stalling to reach your win condition doesn't make it control, you fucking moron.
Decks that will get the nuke in two weeks: Questlock, Murloc Paladin, OTK mech Warrior, Leech Death Knight Control. I don’t know what will happen after but even these retarded devs should know by now that this should happen.
>>545581385Fyrakk Rogue
>>545581385>Leech Death Knight Control.LOLits been tier 1 for the entire year. they are NEVER nerfing their golden child deck. at worst some of the late game wincon cards will get a slap on the wrist while the core survivability cards will be left alone. the devs legitimately think the game should be nothing but turn limit control mirrors
>>545581385this shit only leads to rogue fyraak, aura pally and shredlock to overtake the meta, fag.
>>545581616>aura pally and shredlockoh no heaven forbid 2 new decks be the best thing to playdon't you know the best decks should always be over a year old?
>>545581260Decks don’t have to be one thing and one thing only. Pure otk decks traditionally don‘t have good stalling tools like armor gain and board clear. This deck is the opposite because it‘s from trannior
>>545581385>hs devs>nerfing control decks
>>545581728I know you hate diaper decks. I hate diaper decks too. But you must be mentally ill if you think OTK Mech warrior is a diaper decks when legitimate diaper decks like Control DK exist in the meta.
>>545582093Explain what the cards that aren‘t deios, mech minion, weapon and reduce mech cost do
>>545581260>>545581001>>545582093its a combo-control deck. you retards really need to understand that every deck isn't just aggro/combo/controlthere are aggro-combo decks like old OLD miracle/edwin rogue, or wild ysiel druid. dummy warrior is a control-combo like old school freeze mage or maly druid was
What do you want to see Blizzard announce at Blizzcon 2026 in regards to Hearthstone?
>>545582225Cycle and stallThat is what ALL OTK decks aim to what.What else are their decks supposed to do? Fight for board?
>>545582386Control is control. Control DK exist in the meta and plays completely differently from OTK Mech. Is there overlap between all 3 archetypes? Yes. But OTK Mech leans way more into OTK than Control.
>>545582745
>>545582903Control DK and OTK Mech Warrior are the same archetype, you heard it here first!
>>545582745Bet you‘re one of the retards who thinks that wheel warlock isn‘t a control deck
>>545578896literally so dumb. i pick an "A-tier" class in arena which doesn't have imbue cards, and get fucking mega curbstomped by 3 imbue classes and i'm immediately wondering who the fuck made this fake ass tier list"A" tier must be comprised of every imbue class, and everything else starts at D tier. if they have an imbued hero power, you cannot win the game (except hunter imbue which sucks dick obviously)
>>545583045Wheel warlock is a control deck.OTK Mech Warrior which can reach its wincon in 7-8 turns is not a control deck.
Which one should I choose?
>>545583545Quest Warlock is still really good if you want a playable deck. If you just want the dust then I am not sure.
>>545583545mage is the most raw dustwarlock is the best deck, probably going to get nerfed soon so it will be the best value IF it gets nerfedpriest is the 3rd best for dust
Wow this list is so different from control warrior, it‘s almost a completely new class! I should put a 1 drop in my control dk list so i can call it an aggro deck
>>545584514Retard
>>545581385>two more weekswrong
you now remember an expansion launched 3 days ago
yeah I feel like nu-nature shaman runs out of good nature spells wayyyyy too quickly. crazy how they pretty much addressed this exact problem in Titans with reflexes and thorim but now you're bending over backwards trying to make shit like nathan bolt workthought krag'wa might finally get some use but he's just collecting dust in the core set as usual
>>545585006Husk's deathrattle stacks, I died once and still retained the ress.
>>545584996E N T E R F R O G E
>>545584996all the good nature spells are burn and burn is NOT allowed. we can't let anything proactive be playable
they only have a 2 week window for a patch since masters tour finals is next month so if we don't hear anything next week then it's gg until january
i like this card
>>545586014we better see sweeping nerfs to all the armor/lifegain and removal otherwise the meta will end up completely unchanged for literally an entire year
>>545578896its not infinite dude... you still take fat damageRogue just BOB full board 4 times and you done
>quest warrior>quest warrior>quest warlock>quest warrior>mech warrior>quest warlockCool. See you next expansion.
>>545579874>HITS only minionsThey nerf many spells by this wat Why fucking control minion should hit face ? Its never intended to use this shit to OTK
is gelbin any good
Hi. It's me again.I have 9k dust Should I be focused on getting as many cards as possible, or should I pick a class and master their current meta deck?
>>545587475aura paladin seems viable
Rafaam warlock fell off the face of the world due to mech warrior
>>545588318Why play 10 cards when you can play a simple combo for the same effect?
>>545588318
>>545589987i lost next game to aggro elem shaman btw
>>545587590latter imo
>lucky-ass DK dirty rats one of my rafaams in a 33% chance roll>probably convinced he's gonna win now that i don't have my instakill>dirty rat his kil'jaeden as he reaches the end of his deck
Any good new decks?
>>545591745new, yes!good, no!
>>545585291problem is you spam all your spells on turn 3 not turn 5
>>545591745weapon rogue, which is just fyrakk rogue but with garona and some weapon buffs instead of greedy shitaura paladin, which is the same "curve out perfectly and win" as every paladin deckthat's about it
>>545592053in other words it is due time for a buff
>>545579286>nebula at 53surprised considering how much the deck struggles with aggro
>pole scum>plays most boring deck ever(prob got it free)Holy shit EU IS DEAD only russians poles and indian bots remaining
Sorry for playing boring shit but im in murloc paladin elo and the spics need to suffer
>>545595378BASED SLEEPER ENJOYER
YEah this game definitely needs some more sensible limits on decks to stop all this stupid nonsenseOne legendary per deck would be pretty ideal for a start
>>545596106hahahaha he thinks they're going to give people less incentive to buy packs
I don't care if it's a control or combo deck, all decks that drag removals look identical to me
thoroughly enjoying broxigar in questline DH for wild. cool card and the portal draws are fun to play with while also working lol
Hmm, what if there was some kind of 'rarity pool' that placed an effective limit on how many special cards a deck could haveLike if the pool was 10, each blue card would deduct 1, each epic would deduct 2, each legendary would deduct 5, something like that
>watching hs clip compilations>russian players are always raging>”Dude why did my opponent play a card! So annoying!”>”Why did you hit face! Now I lose!”>”[random thing happens] Blizzard is rigging marches against me!!!!”>they sound exactly like the whiny post in /hsg/Hmmmm
>>545600421Nosferatu just acting
>>545600421nosferatu is pretty based he plays it up on stream because its entertainment
So the short lived fun is already over. Nobody is even pretending anymore, we're just playing the same DK shit and occasionally getting OTK'd by warrior. Amazing. Well done.
>>545603267>pic relatedis this Asteroid japan shaman ?
>>545593236What fucking aggro decks are popular enough to make up a reasonable percentage of the ladder?
>faced 3 warriors total over the last 2 days>went against 6 OTK warriors in a row today>4 of them fucked up the comboI have no idea how you can play baby's first combo deck and still manage to mess up the order. The glue eaters that absolutely have to play meta decks without even understanding how they function are something else.Once I hit D5 today, I guess I'll just take a break until the next patch comes out.
another failed expansion start because they refused to patch. at this point its just malice. I dont even believe in the retarded zeddy plan of "oh BUT THE ROTATION will be so amazing next year"no it won't be. its gonna be boring quests. boring control slop and one or two neutral cards in every deck AGAIN
sooowhat do i craft
>>545605395crazy how something thats rarely been a problem in the past (new cards being playable) has consistently been a problem for the last 2 years.
>new expansion>russian Ivan plays 10 000 years old deck>somehow wins (goldfish aggro always wins)DEUAD
Does DK even beat OTK warrior?
>>545606660turns out listening to redditors is not good. I rather have a different broken meta every expansion than the same broken meta for an entire year because MUH POWER LEVEL
>>545607187Everything would be solved if Blizzard had a playtest team because even a moron could tell that OTK Mech warrior would be good. Only just the extend of how good it is.
>>545606724you need 2 crystals and other shart minions(8 attack total) dead and starlaunch ready before warrior churn his combo
>>545604663Thats every new expansion>new aggro cards win a lot because people dont know how to answer them>people figure it out>every deck gets anti-aggro cards>aggro diesSee murloc paladin, went from an absolute menace to mild annoyance in a month
>>545607684HSGuru says it is 55/45 for the warrior
>>545607653OTK warrior barely has any new cards, it’s all core set. They went out of their way to make it a deckAnd if you are that bothered by it, run silence or something. I dont find it any more egregious than any older combo decks
>plays aggro>calls it midrange>hates midrange OTK>calls it diaperwhy is /hsg/ like this?
>>545608130Silence does nothing since it comes from their hand. At best you tech in weapon destruction.
Im playing on 2024(3) servers
Holy shit bros how to change server ? I think i play outdated game (next game crashed client btw)
>>545582386It's a combo deck lmao. Every combo deck just wants to control the board until it does its combo because its how they win the game.
We need mass silence cards to return with all the faggotry abound.
>>545610127nah the anon you're replying to is correct. There's a big difference between combo decks that do nothing but assemble combo pieces to kill on turn 5 and combo decks that play a bunch of removal to stall the game until they combo on turn 8
>>545608012Every single person who plays aggro is an ultra faggot that should close their eyes and walk into oncoming traffic.
>>545610362>turn 8so it's midrange-combo thennot like protoss mage that kills you on turn 15+
>>545610338we need transform back as well
>>545610476nobody uses the terms "midrange-combo" or "aggro-lite" stop
>>545610413t. controlcuck
>>545610692>IT'S DIAPER-COMBO! DIAPER-COMBO I TELL YOUhow about you shut the fuck up
>>545610757Quit your kvetching shlomo
how i defeat this obnoxious warrior deck anons? please save me…
>People seriously is discussing if Warrior is Midrange, Combo or Control/hsg/? Guys? Come on…
>>545610809shut your cockholster, retard
Riggedtranny shitting up another thread with schizobabble
>>545610362There has never been a turn 5 kill combo deck in hearthstone wtf
>>545610929well it is midrange, so....
>>545611075You are wrong
>>545611006Rigged found 1 (your post)Anon YOU ARE SCHIZO !
>>545611130You are wrong>inb4 wild
>>545611134>say "riggedtranny bad" to nobody>Anon immediately posts NO IM NOTkek
>>545611006sup retard
>>545611130Name some?
>>5456111901. wild is hearthstone2. food fight warrior, quasar rogue and draka rogue were all combo decks that could easily kill turn 5 in standard and im sure there's numerous other examples
>>545611386>uhm acshually [mega highroll] counts, chud
>>545611510I used those examples because "mega highroll" for them was turn 4 kill and turn 5 was fairly common. Like maybe not at your MMR where everyone is shit and has no clue how to play a combo deck but that doesn't mean it wasn't possible.
it is actually insane that leeches STILL haven't been fucking nerfed holy shit
>>545611609You are wrong
>>545611627If a DK deck with 20 legendaries + leeches package isn't the best deck AT ALL TIMES cora will be sad anon please understandMost hilarious part is people calling it "control" DK when it can very easily out aggro actual aggro decks
>>545604741It's the most popular deck on the ladder because of a Reddit post about it
>>545610856I put black knight in my decks but it wasn't enoughAura paladin was working though
>>545610856Ironically only warrior can beat it due to tortolla soaking 60 dmgThe mirror is just whoever manages to copy tortolla firstThere's probably some huge taunts deck that might work. Maybe hydration station druid or something.
I just logged in. Is it me or did the meta not change?
>>545613601there is 1 "new" deck
Why does Zach0 think about this meta?
patch next week bros trust the plan
STORIESAlso pulled the epic sig druid pupil spell guy for 8 mana, is that basically 800 dust for free or?
How the fuck do I filter only wild cards in my collection? I dont play wild so I want to dust my wild cards. When I press press "wild cards" filter in my collection its also showing me standard cards.
>>545615927scroll down and do it set by set anything older than whizbang
Is control priest a thing? With Atiesh and shit ? I only met it once and his silence + kill shit countered my protoss priest hard (but less counter than shaman with hex)
amazing how they managed to make an even more dull deck than quest warlock to be tier sthis mech warrior armor shit is so boring I can barely stay awake waiting for them to pull the combo out their ass
>bought pre order bundle>tavern pass>catch up packs>still dont have one complete deck i spend like 2million wow gold why is it so hard to make a functional deck
>>545616773>Mech Warrior>unbeatable tier S deckyou could just say you don't enjoy playing against that style of deck shitter-anon
>>545616995NTA but while the stats don't currently reflect it, once the desklist is refined and the meta more solid, mech warrior is going to be a solid T1 deck unless they nerf it.
>>545617120You'd have to figure out how to make the deck not lose to rogue.
>>545616940Just play pewpew warrior or fyrakk rogue with garona, it's not that hard
is here a way to fucking disenchant more than one card at a time ffs
>play slow time (cards cost 1 more this turn)>delay his mech combo>play weapons inspector (cards not from deck cost 2 more)>he fucks up his combo because the mini weapon costs 3 instead of 1>concedes
>>545616940>i spend like 2million wow goldhuh?also how do I make gold
>>545618402Wow currency from warcraft, if you played it you knew about it
I have been out of the loop but what happened? Did Blizzard actually delete this card from all decks?
>>545619426the signature version
>>545619426He opened signature mister clocksworth in a pack then had it forcibly rerolled to another signature legendary when they fixed it. You're only suppose d to get signature clocksworth if you buy all 3 preorder bundles.
>>545616995I hope you die today for defending this shit. I am 100% serious. I hope you die
What are the chances?
>>545616995CORASHILLER GET DOWN !
Nice meta Cora
Holy fuck I hate shredlock. Bunch of overstatted bullshit the supposed downside of which never materializes because they kill you before they can draw the shreds. And it'll probably become even stronger once the nerfs hit in 2 weeks™
i'm playing in plat and it's literally nothing but mech warrior. what deck shits on it? though i know the moment i swap it's going to disappear
>>545621889leeches and blobs deal with it well
>>545620795fuck off you whiny cunt. uninstall and go be productive in life so your mother will stop being so disappointed all the time.
>>545622086it seems to have poor winrate into cards rogue
>>545621889shred it weak just go face they have nothing to stop the damage once they start raping themselves, i can kill them by turn 3
>>545622086meta deck ? none you can try add Clumsy steward Viper(or new dragon that replace weapon) and Dirty Rat(or new warlock discard) to counter combo
>>545621724what deck?
>>545622105i really didn't want to play old decks, but if it comes to that, I guess we'll see>>545622301but then I'd have to play traggro
>>545622402Are you disabled ?
>>545622560i know its lock you fucking tranny, i want to know the build you inept faggot
>Opponent drops Infinite Whelp>Has the 2/2 copy dark gift>Copies it again with Elise location
>>545622672Highest winrate one on HSGuru
>>545621684>10%+ of the meta is warrior chadsHETEROSEXUAL BROS!!! WE DID IT!!!!
>0-2 in arena because im only facing busted contructed decks
>>545624331hostile invader solos
>arena opponent goes first>have to trade and remove because i'm behind while he can just go face every turn>finally think i stabilized>he randomly generated 18 points worth of burst damage from hand while just playing to the boardFucking arena is so fucking cooked holy shit. Remove fucking discover already.
>>545624394yea thats just regular F questlock from last season thats not the one because thats not doing well against osme of the new meta so nice try fucking reddit gatekeeper, it's cool this is why i dont share my get to legend decks with quick wins, you ruin it for everyone else
>>545624554if it beats warrior it's shredlock most likely
what deck fees like you peaked in high school?
>>545582450Maintenance mode.
>>545624691Galakrond RogueThat's when the game peaked and it's been downhill ever since
>>545624554I am not sure why you think I am lying to you
>>545625293this has to be fake, no way this will reach leged specially with all the aura paladings
how do I complete this
>>5456252932dk 1warthis seems so suspicious
>>545625621the fuck does aura paladin do when you drop portal on 5
>>545624554get a grip man
>>545625293honest question why librarian? hows it going to help against the multiple tortollas that appear or all the taunt shit?
>>545625728>>545625621>>545625801Nah. I just wanted to netdeck a deck I had all the cards for and clear my dailies/weeklies. I have stop playing since Quest Warlock is really boring.
>>545625801what multiple tortollas do you kids just afk till turn 10 or something?
>>545625648coin and wisp are you retarted
>>545625737he doesn't play at ranks where questlock completes quest before turn 7
>>545625937I did that when it was "Loop(1)"I have done it multiple times while it's "Loop(2)" but it doesn't do anything
>>545626176now oyu need coin coin wisp wisp
should i craft murozond warrior and be happy for the rest of my life or should i be stuck in an indecision until it all rotates?
>>545625992im diamond 4 noob
>>545626417so what I said was true then
>>545625932you can pump out at least 3 tortollas till turn 7
OH NONONONONO
>>545627129these stats are from bronze-gold and an aggregate of every deck
>>545626334I decided to play miracle rogue in wild and that solved it, thank you
Bros I'm playing the Blizzard recommended Bottom Bargains Druid and I'm hard stuck D5 0 stars.
>>545627129Priestbros… Werent us one the top shits of the meta? Where is the Protoss thing every faggot was complaining a week ago?
>>545621724>>545625293>>545625850>traggro
>>545630174such things happen when you play completely unworkably awful decks. sorry bud.
>>545630646Quest is midrange retard
Why is discover mage le bad?
>>545630830Little to no sustain
garona is looking like a pretty safe craft innit
>>545630805if it makes you sleep at nightstill aggro
>>545630971but has armor gen
>>545632524Not really, all the cards abusing here atm are gonna rotate next set.
>>545634114they'll just make more. when was the last time rogue didn't have tempo cards?
>Besmirch the fascist name of the chud class>Get skull caved in
>>545634361diaper deck according to /hsg/ because it gains armor and stalls. how does it feel like being a diaper tranny?
>>545622295wow the 7 perfect cards exodia combo before 6 huh
>>545634114garona package will probably be played in tempo rogue decks. decent weapon that draws you stuff (who cares if it also draws them stuff if they die), garona is a threat and you give them a dead draw + you thin your own deck
>>545622295Tortolla tanks these
>>545635167I do not care for the opinion of the sstrogen huffing sTRANSdard cucks that dwell this general, I only come here to remind them of the fact they got brown souls and inhuman features of being a mulattoid.This game peaked with patron warrior, the first of the chvd vvarriors and killer of the /hsg/ trannyfreak.CHVD vvarrior exists for one purpose, find all tranny decks /hsg/ worships and put them 60 feet down in a blaze of fascist glory ignoring jewish tricks like rigging, meta games, tierlists and similar faggotry in a display of aryan intelligence that far surpasses what a jew owned cuck like you could ever fathom.
>>545635934tl;dr
>>545635934
>>545634114yea they are going to just put some of them in core. i remember when the rotation would save us last time and then they put fucking BRANN in core for a year
What do you think Monk will play like?
>>545637049somehow worse than DK. either all agro no breaks or all control, no combo or midgame whatsoever
>>545637049How would you represent kung fu with a hero power in a way that another hero doesn't do
>>545637049rogue with healing but bad removal
>draft an arena deck>get offered three neutral leggos with no synergy packets to speak of>get offered a random pile of cards during drafting>very first game is against Warrior with Terran package who apparently didn't get offered a single card that didn't say Starship on itBalance in arena is so impossibly fucked. If the reward track didn't offer tickets nobody would genuinely play this fucking diarrhea cyclone of a game mode.
>>545637049You remember Rogue? And the infinite bounce? Well merge that with survibality of Warrior and Priest healing and you will have a good idea of what Monkchads will be doing to you in 2026
KILL WARRIORCORA YOU PIG THIS IS INSUFFERABLEALL MY MATCHES ARE WARRIORS!!KILL FUCKING WARRIOR ALREADY PLEASEEEEE!!!!
>>545634361>>545635934too based to live
>>545639525This but DK
>>545639525>>545639752this but I don't actually play this game because its shit
>>545637049always figured they'll have cards like this but with options to "clear" them, like their stagger mechanic in wow. unless they dont do that anymore, i havent played retail in years
why did they print a 4 mana 7/7 lifesteal
NICE DECKan entire deck negated by a single pull from hand effect
>>545642802Why don't they just change it to summon...
do we have patch notes yet?
just got signature teacher cards from the free gacha, do i rejoice or not
Ambatu CROOOOOOOOOOFT Garona
>>545642802Get fucked redditfaam
>>545644203i unpacked her but now i'm considering craft the fucking yogg dragon would this deck even be good?
i concede against all d1 players :)
>>545644701Third or fourth best deck in the game currently.
Sigh I miss le old hearthstone when there were no pity timers and duplicate protection and you constantly lost to paypiggies that had sylvanas and dr boom
>>545642802rafaam doesn't need its instakill combo to win retard, the cards have enough value to be scary by themselvesyou can get a turn two 2/2 into a turn three 5/5 into a turn four double 9/9
I would kill every single Pally player in existence…
>>545647519
>>545624331that thing needs to lose rebornswap reborn and divine shield between infinite and bronze whelps
>>545645076We at the Based Department, need you, our stocks have been falling and we need fresh blood. You must accept!>>545627129Shaman was overrated man I don't think Muradin was THAT cool. I was hoping these guys were more like Titans.
>>545647773why did they print this cardwe have already experienced myserious challenger and it was a fucking disaster for the metaand this is myserious challenger but better??????????????????????????
>>545627129>Hunter at the bottomHunter chuds… This was supposed to be our time, the rise of burn/aggro supremacy with the fabled card…
Wildychads how should i make this card viable in wishing well rogue?
>>545648996>Hunter at the bottomIt's more middle of the pack. Discover Hunter has a 50% winrate in top 5K Legend, which actually ties the class with Warrior and Paladin as the 5th best class ATM just based on that winrate. The DK and Warrior match-ups are pretty brutal, so if the mech OTK or leech spam become more popular over the coming days, Hunter is gonna drop further.Beast Hunter is also one of the fastest decks to climb with still, if you manage to not bore yourself to sleep.It's just not a popular class so we don't get a lot of representation on ladder or have many dedicated Hunter autists.
Now that the dust has settled, this card is ass
>>545654009Extremely ass, dropped it on the first day.
Old mech warrior>oppressive control bs that whittles you down by constantly reviving the dummyNu mech warrior>inconsistent combo deck that will die by turn 8 if they dont get every cardThanks Deios
Guh...! phew...
I'm just auto conceding against dk and warrior until they nerf these stupid fucking control deckscontrol dk has literally 0 weaknesses, every single matchup is 50% at worst
>>545657813retard
>>545654009????????who ever thought anything else?
>opponent has "evelynn" in their name>it's a rigged bot script autolossmany such cases
>>545657813Owlonius druid beats it but yeaThey need to nerf the fucking leeches already
>>545660610make them 0/1 or start of turn effect?
this rogue deck that over ropes with animations, locks all the cards in your hand, and duplicates shadow steps and then repeats this every single turn until they whittle you down with minion damage and grifta damage is cancer
>>545661240both
>>545661492both would kill it (understandable) but i think start of turn would be more devastating without outright killing the cards. I don't think they are getting touched either way
>>545661669yes, start of turn would be more devastatingbut I dont think it would kill the cards at allI think it would hurt the 6 drop the most, the 2 or 4 mana spells would still be really strong because you play them early and plenty of times there's no answer yet
>>545657813I've been doing the same for months now. Control has no place in Hearthstone.
any tips for arena? I got legend early and there's nothing to do until nerfs
>>545647773bless you kino man
>>545666909>any tips for arena?dont play arena
>>545666649this is probably baitpost, but control isn't a problem per seits how widlly imbalanced control is relative to combo and especially aggro right now. aggro has been nerfed for the last year almost every patch but they keep printing pushed anti-aggro tools anyway
Just ignore the leeches. You are having a panic attack and devoting everything you can to get them off the board when they are doing 1 dmg.
You know which card is a real problem? Tortolla… The fact they can cheat that ridiculous shit and then copy it or just let there as a big ass meat shield until they can literally blow your ass in a single turn is fucking preposterous
>>545666909I could give specific advice depending on how experienced you are with arena already.
545668369>just ignore the body that gives them infinite health and snipes your minions through divine shields and always kills the smallest onesfucking tranny dk hands typed this post
>>545668369>leave a leech on the board>DK plays the card that summons two leeches and makes them suck harderNice try, DK main
>>545670208>suck harderOP like it
Yes. Ignore the leech. It's just doing one damage. DO NOT ATTACK THE LEECHES. Aim for face instead.
>>545669143I played a ton of arena from 2015 to 2019, I think I'm good with the basics
anyone got a dragon mage deck? feels like thats the whole thing with Mage's cards this xpac and I just don't see the archetype. I'm willing to play something totally mediocre just need some direction, my homebrew blows
>>545671720won my third attempt, may be getting mogged most of the time but dragons are always fun, I really wanna see that infinity attack in action
>>545671720mage isn't a class anymore.you're allowed to play diaper knight, mana cheat big rogue and occasionally scam warrior under cora's regime. everything else is banned for being anti-fun noninteractive aggro-lite
>masters tour is next week so there won't be any changes for 2 weeks aieeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>545672107Wow... Quest classes are now fair then?Thank you, Cora-sama!! Another 4 months of Questlock and Paladin Murlocs!!
>>545672168we havent had a proper balance update in MONTHS
>>545672478>Paladin Murlocs!tales from plastic 10
Guys, I'd like you to give me the diaperest decklist imaginable. Something to hold my opponents hostage with for as long as possible by just roping every turn and making myself impossible/annoying to kill. WR doesn't matter, I'll measure my success by the amount of trannies that kill themselves (sooner than they would have anyway).
>>545672168WE DEVS not trained to nerf cards we trained to print cool cards
>>545667468I'm not baiting, control is a disease that goes against anything Hearthstone, or, well, any game, stands for. Combo decks don't play the board but at least have the kindness of being weak to the decks that do, but control refuses to play the board AND punishes decks that do. It's pure fucking evil.
>>545676408Starship dk is still the best for that. Bonswamdi is slightly better at actually wininng but not as traumatizing as having 300 armor
>>545672168next expansion will save usnext balance patch will save us <- You're herenext mini-set will save usnext balance patch will save usnext rotation will save usnext balance patch will save usnext expansion will save us
>>545677283Thanks, I'm going hunting.
>t1 spiders>t2 creature of madness>t3 retarded overstatted dark gift bullshit>t4 leeches + draw>more leech>more leech>retarded deathrattle reborn shit
>>545677481this is incorrect because monk will save us after rotation
There's never a Druid deck being played on the front page of HSguru. And whenever I check the Druid lists the winrates just keep going lower.Thanks for printing useless bottom bitch sissy shit faggots.
I genuinely have no idea how this deck is supposed to have such a high winrateI almost never lose to it, and when I try to pilot it I can only get the combo out 30% of the time. One time I got a mirrormatch and we both pathetically just spammed draws and armorgains until I got the combo on turn 12Is it simply getting inflated numbers from Bronze?
>>545677481Current powercreep meta is the cancer.MONK is the cure.
Still no deck is as fun as pre nerf zergs
>>545677817I got to legend with it: >>545533105I can sum up my experience as this1. aggro decks cannot kill you fast enough, if you just focus on not dying, you will draw your combo pieces eventually2. decks that cannot pressure aren't able to survive 64 damagemy only two losses were agains a rogue that fyrakk'd me from like 25 to 2 on turn 7 and a dk that plopped down fyrakk into two corpse giants after I had already used my board clearsit is worth mentioning that I didn't face a single player running dirty rat though, that definitely helped
another day of sub 15% winrate on literally any deck I play because the rigged matchmakerI love blizzard! I love hearthstone! I love getting scammed out on turn fucking 5 by a dragon mage that hit the absolute fucking jackpot 3 TIMES IN A ROW IN 3 DIFFERENT GAMES
>>545676408The actual answer is Starship or Armor Wheel Warlock, but if you want to just rope them forever, bring KJ and just jam it when you have 500 armor and play for turn limit instead of trying to end the game with Wheel.
>>545678558law of averages brojust play another 100 gamesplease man i need this job
>>545679143>just play another 100 gamesthis happens at least every other game. I can log 500 games and win maybe 50 strictly due to total bullshit rngEVERY single opponent always has the nuts, I ALWAYS draw the absolute worst card every single turn, I ALWAYS get absolutely fucked on rng, they ALWAYS get good rollsit is 100% rigged matchmaking and it started about a month or 2 ago. I played before and I never dealt with the level of total bullshit I've seen lately
We need more actual not easy-disrupted OTK combo decks. This Control hell is not as insufferable as the Aggro-Lite experience but play for 45 just to see a faggot behind ten thousand armour or over nine thousand life justify the existence of such things.
Returning player back again.Is this worth it?
>>545678526Which deck did you use?
>>545679723no the game fuckign sucks. don't bother wasting any money on this piece of shit rigged game
>>545679819this oneAAECAYwWBpGoBpKoBrH9BsODB9uXB5mxBwyGoASIoASJoASO1ATonwaHoAaPqAaUqAa2lAfqpwf8rwePsQcAAA==
all the same broken 3-4 slop legendaries like Fyrakk, Ysera, Naralex etc. in every deck with even more mana cheat and draw - surprise! every fucking expansion for years now
>>545679435How is the control hell less insufferable than a fucking midrange meta of all things?
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24247003/setting-things-right-with-ranked-rewards-and-mister-clocksworthwe're so fucking back
>>545681401BANZAI CORA SAMA!!!
30 minutes of queueing, 35 losses in a row50% of them dks
>>545681401free packs are free packs
>50 losses later>only seeing imbue priest and starshit dhcool, just pure antiaggro even though the meta is nothing but controlwhat a fucking joke
what a cool turn 3it's so cool that rogue's identity is having 8 mana worth of stuff on the board on turn 2
>>545681401>didn't get a sig cocksworthfree packs still that's nice
redditfaam is so epic wholesome XD
SHOULD I CRAFT GARONAYESORNO
>>545687504yes
I crafted this to hear the sound effect and accidentally clicked away so I have this thing now. Only seen it played once, I guess that means no one plays around it. I'm sure it will find a home somewhere.
>>545688130it's mediocre but i mean you can slap it into your usual warrior contrrol pile and it will only be slightly worse + 6 mana will be a very uncontested manacost for warrior once Hamm rotateswould be pretty good if it was silence and destroy desu
>>545688781Would be better if it was summoned and not played.
>>545688858that would be pretty overpowered honestly
I pulled Gelbin as my free fabled. Looking at the decklists for aura paladin, they all seem to have lynessa, which I'm missing. Can the deck be made to work almost as well without her, is there a tourist-free variant? Or would I need to invest in her to try it out properly?
>>545689067It's not a board clear, it's 6 mana fuck your last turn but now can at least answer spells that generate minions as well as well as things like DK's starship launch. I wouldn't run it in Control Warrior either way.
>have rogue dead from hand with a 2 card combo, out of 5 cards>plays fucking renferal (bonus points if you even know what this fucking piece of shit card is)>hits the EXACT card he needs to to not die>bounces it>next turn, get him low enough that 1 of 2 cards in my hard are lethal, still 5 cards in hand>plays renferal, hits BOTH of the cards needed>bounces ittotally DEFINITELY not 100% rigged, just variance :) :) :) :) :) :)
>>545689785no you need her to cheat out gelbinhe's broken beyond belief btw. coin him out turn 6 100% winrate. needs to be nerfed to 10 or paladin needs to lose the fucking coin generators
>>545691262So gelbin without mana cheat isn't really worth running?
>play arena>it's immediately rigged, unwinnable after my opponent's first 2 turnsnice man
>>545685563Bro your Holy Nova ? your Hot Coals ? Your Dragon aoe ?
am I really gonna have to start running dirty rat for these meme rafaam decks
>>545680527If they don't nerf this tomorrow fuck it I might just be the most hated person on ladder until legend, may as well get the "free" legend.
In order of annoyance>Warrior Mech hell>DK endless leech>Rogue weapon new shitSeriously… Where are the Protoss Mage? Or the Protoss Priest? Or even Dragon Priest? I don’t even see Questlocks anymore… This meta is actually worse!
>DK fabled gives him an infinite supply of 8-cost minions with rush and lifesteal>paladin fabled lets him draw and play like 20 mana worth of cards>hunter fabled... uh... gives your deck +1/+1 and does a few consecrations i guess
>rigged script fake arena opponent who the game wants me to believe has never played hearthstone before because their portrait is default ungolden, hovers over every card in their hand and everything on the battlefield and both portraits and both hero powers several times each then proceeds to rope down to 0 and play some busted insane rng autowin bullshitmany such cases
>>545703615default ungoldens who play decently well with an insane deck are accounter buyers who bought a god tier arena run online
>>545701746>Protoss mageRan into one today. Gained a billion armor and froze the board every turn, conceded before he even dropped colossus.
>>545635934i kneel
>>545703761this is the default cope but realistically the game is rigged and it's much more likely to be what i described it as: a rigged computer script pretending to be a real person
>>545676408sleepy dh
>>545701746there's just enough aggro to suppress the only partially diaper decks, but the full diaper decks aren't effected. shredlock is still pretty popular and can highroll non-dk non-warriors out of the game
>>545701846natural consequence of hard forcing control meta. anything proactive has to be ass, and if by some mistake its functional it will be "balanced" while the broken control and survivability tools will never be touched
Druid is actually so fucking shit it's unreal.
>>545706794and that's a good thing
>>545706794A DRUID JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>545707597Do you live under a bridge
>login to shartstone>dk>warrior>warrior>warrior>dk>dk>alt+F4dead game. even shartverse is better than this garbage now.
How many spins in the gacha is it worth to do? In general the first 3 are decently priced, no?
>>545701846You play the sisters early in tandem with something, the others are basically turn 6/8 and one requires 2 cards to work, the other yeah I have no comment, heals buffs taunt summons and all for 8 is busted but not instantly gamewinning
>>545709469"decently priced" is impossible considering none of them have any actual valueif you like paying for cosmetics then the value is determined by you not some spreadsheet
There's not a single deck I want to play in this meta. Its kind of crazy.
>>545687504no
>>545711507one of the 3 deios rogues. all quite fun
jesus fucking christ this new rogue deck is fucking disgusting>hey you know how everyone hates their infinite mana cheat? lets make it trigger twice lol
>>545717747the tidepool one is actually infinite mana
>play nebula shaman>entire gimmick is multiple battlecries>everyone can do the same nowngl feels fucking terrible
>People actually gambled for thisWhy? He's so ugly.
>>545720541>KID LOOKING MASCOT>IN KIDDIE GAMEKIDS GAME BRUHHHHH.....
>time to play arena>get offered mage, hunter and druidEBINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>545720541it's weird how dogshit the pets have been, i'd get it of they were in the $20 range on the store but they're way too shit for the gacha price
>lose to warrior>add tribute and rat>remove sleeper>next 3 game quest warlocks or other aggrostop peeking in my decklist
>match against mech warrior>play rat>summon tortolla or his test dummynow what
>>545723687Silence and leave
>>545701846>dh favled
LMAO new 6(2 with elise) mana spell is fucking broken
>>545724969zero warriors btw>hex>rat>wave of nostalgia for tortolla
>>545723235Paypigs still pay for them.
Totally legit client server game LMAOpathetic just pathetic
Isn’t this card just ass? It’s conditional cantrip that barely helps you. I’d rather have the card it would have drawn instead
>>545728412
>>545728557You can't run a 28 card deck, anon
>>545728557>>545728412it had its uses, it can target your own minions and warrior has (shitty)damaged minion mechanics. so that + being removal and draw made it okay in the early years of hearthstone when execute was still in every warrior deck
Does this guy have a use?
>>545729527you can get dust out of him and save up for a better legendary
>>545729527Cuck Rafaam even more
>>545721852>mage that lowI thought it was supposed to be one of the best classes with the amount of card generation it has
>>545718567link?
>>545731637random random random random
I'm so fucking sick of everyone playing control
>>545732019which archetype do you like playing against?
Shredslock is nowhere near good enough. I was really hoping for aggro to finally be back but this is weak as shit and loses to a single removal.
>>545681401communication??? compensation??? wtf is happening at blizzard? paypigs must have been really mad
>>545732173good, aggro is boring
>midrange>midrange>aggro-lite>aggrowhere is the control everyone seems to be yapping about???
>>545732173I mean nothing keeps them from putting some more mid game in the deckthe shred cards are strong. looks like a decent deck once its optimized
>>545732505bros where are the new decks...
>>545733762In my anus
first impressions on the new expansion?
>>545732505control DK is right behind at 55% winratenice crop though
>>545734516Control players are truly the jews of Hearthstone.
The streak continues.>Play 3 games as Warlock>Win 3 games as Quest Warlock>Quit because this meta is ass
OH WOW ANOTHER DECK PLAYING FYRAKK HAHAHAHA SO WONDERFUL ITS JUST BEEN 8 MONTHS OF EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DECK HAVING THIS CARD
how do we rework rogue without making it a boring pirate + weapon class?
>>545735384>traggro
>>545736313I don't think a deck where the games end around turn 8 is an aggro deck. More midrange.
>>545737679>wisp>no card costs more than 4 manatrrrrraggro
Not sure where to fit him in. Cucked a Rafaam and Mech deck and by itself it seems useful for those situations but how does it help your deck? If you run control it can fuck you up and if you run aggro there's a slight tempo loss for being a textless 3/3, the discard also hurts since you tend to have less card draw in aggro. Unsure but it's fun to use.
>>545738616Discard warlock in wild probably loves this
>>545741885it's a lot of mana for discolock
I hate the Warrior class, it's players, and everything they stand for.
>>545685563how about a cool turn 4 :)
>>545747910what deck?
>>545748387aggro tutor heavy fry rouge i deja vued a copy of parrot sanctuary to pull that offthe normal list with 2 copies of the pirates and more legos instead of deja vu/chrono daggers might just be better though but the combo is very consistent you will always draw your 3 by turn 6
>>545709469death
>>545723349Pure coincidence.
This game is so dead lmao. Even BG viewership is in the crapper thats how you can tell
>>545750395bgs were botted
>>545750909is that why RDU has 2k less viewers? Lmao how is he still getting viewers after he got his viewbots exposed
>poogroundsI couldn't imagine wasting 30 minutes playing what is essential diaper simulator mode
>>545751993>Yes Mr Anon, it's all diapers
>>545732505In non-shitter ranks where people aren‘t playing garbage like murloc paladin
>>545751102isn't that the hi mom guy? why do people support an exposed cheater?
is there any high legend guy that IS NOT a streamer? i've asked random people on twitch and most of them are neets or stay with their parents and literally waste their lives playing this russian roulette, hell some of them like that susho guy were proud of doing 24h streams drinking beer 'til they collapse, that devou kid from norway is a physiotherapy student so credits to him for that, the meati guy was a doctor iirc, is any of the other big names somewhat decent in society outside of being a professional children's card game player?
>>545762373if you consider susho high legend then yeah lots of us
>>545762716well the dude reached rank 30 legend or so, i guess that's an accomplishment for a guy pushing 40s that drinks more than a russian grandpa
GUHHH...! phew...
>>545762991It's easy to get a good rank for a short time on day 1, he never had a top 100 finish. And he's an exception, nobody plays as much as he does. I probably play 1/50 of his games per season and I'm usually higher rank
>>545731731AAECAaIHCNOeBsekBqfTBs7+Btb+BsODB9uXB5mxBwv2nwT3nwStpwazqQa2tQbCvgbpyQaM1gal4QbBlwfHrgcAAQP1swbHpAb3swbHpAbu3gbHpAYAAA==you use deios, shadowstep, mini, tidepool to refill the tidepool with shadowsteps (desios collects 2 spells from tidepool per use so you gain more resources than you expend), reclaim the mini, bounce grifta, collect the 6 damage spell, put it in the tidepools with shadowsteps, bounce them all on repeat until you recas the 6 damage spell enough to kill your opponent
Damn Rogue is so fun but I am so stupid, having to know when or how to use my coins and remembering I can discount things by 6 mana with Deios and only 3 without it how I can get my Insidious combo off right here. This deck would be so cool if I could pilot it dang.
>>545681401>3 packs>no mention of any balance
>>545681401>cheaters and exploiters get rewarded
i see a lot of complains about warrior (oh no the forgotten class is good what a shit! waah) and dk but why everyone forgets about rogue? the new card additions including garona and the always obnoxious fyraak package is fucking disgusting and by far the worst thing in the actual meta.
>>54576623060-70 damage from hand on turn 8 with mech warrior is worth kvetching about
This number is too high, unironically. I barely did anything.
>>545767412what were you playing?
>>545768293Aggressive warlock
>play arena>dont get offered imbue classes>against priest>turn 2 lunarwingUUUUUUUUUH BASED DEPARTMENT? I'M HAVING THE TIME OF MY LIFE HEREOH WAIT AS I WAS TYPING THIS ON TURN 4 HE DISCOVERED ANOTHER LUNARWING FROM THE HERO POWER OH MAN THIS IS EVEN MORE EPIC
>>545770935arena sissy oh no no no no
>>545720541>>545723235really is quite weird. none of the three have been truly cute, pretty, aesthetically pleasing, or anything like thatthe dino looks retarded, the dog looks REALLY retarded. the bunny looks okay but it still has a weird energy to itjust not what i would expect a $150 paypig pet lineup to look like. as anon said, around $20 maybe, but they're priced like they're mega premium products and i just don't understand who they're supposed to appeal to
OH WHOOPS LOOKS LIKE I LOST AFTER MY OPPONENT GOT ONE EXTRA CARD AND ONE EXTRA MANA EVERY TURN FOR FREEEEPICCCCCCCCCCCCCC
>algorithm cooks up a turn 2 scripted loss as punishment for winning 2 games in a rowman i love that shit
>algorithm cooks up a turn 2 scripted win after I win 2 in a rowthe rich get richer
OH SWEET NEXT MATCH AGAINST A MAGE WHO I DOMINATE THE WHOLE GAME BUT THEN HE PLAYS TWO SLATE SKEETERS TO CASUALLY HEAL FOR LIKE 20 WHILE FREEZING MY ENTIRE BOARD TO THEN KILL ME WITH A 18 DAMAGE COLOSSUS XDDDDREACHING LEVELS OF FUN AND INTERACTIVITY PREVIOUSLY UNHEARD OF
Shredlock is kino. And cheap.
>>545775023I opened chronigor and it doesn't even go into the deck
>>545775798Best looking legendary of the whole set and is actually usseless in the only deck that would even consider taking it… Never change, Cora.
>>54577634667
>>545777113Should cost 4 maybe at the handicap of trigger one of your shards.
>this is an actual mage deck rnthe absolute state kek
>>545777692>Playing WarriorYou lost me chief.
>>545778465silence troon.
can someone tell me how to pilot weapons rogue
>>545780201you combo-draw into weapon and then use the weapon to draw fyraak + accessories and then you play fyraak rogue from this point onwards.
>>545776346>best looking legendary of the whole set>>545777113>lmao, manchild taste
>>545777692>chemical drop warrior complaining about honest decks
>>545780516that card looks proper sick you dumb troon
>be warrior vs rogue>have 25 armor and 6 hp>she plays Garrona>only lose 3 hp
>>545780873no. you know which card looks sick? bloodmage thalnos. evil ass hardcore nigga
>>545781102that's a moldy skeleton in a dress
>>545781167NTA but it looks better imo. its way more grounded than a colorful two-headed toad-dragon with nublizz artstyle
jalex is dropping the reddit post
>>545781102And you talk about man child taste? You surely are into He-Man, bozo.
>>545781442>hehe look at le cool colorful cartoon dragon!
>>545781482>hehe skellies, halloween is so cool!Sad, kid.
>>545781369>it has no colors so it's mature for mature games like meinsecure troon
>>545781594this but unironically
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/1orxy00/the_philosophy_of_buffs_nerfs_and_change/
>>545781623at least try to form your train of thought into an coherent argument instead of seething like a little girl that didn't get a cookie for lunch
>>545782118>troon talking about little girls
>>545782118your clapbacks are so gay and 40yo redditor coded
>>545782168my name is melissa.
why is murloc paladin still a thing
>>545781923Is this faggot defending Warrior current deck?
man fuck warriors they just wait until the end then use wrench and shoot like 6000 shots to the face why is this allowed?
>>545734206There is no expansion They sell placebo
i hope this bitch is usable in the future because she's hot
>>545784223he typed out a 500 word essay and said nothing
>>545784223no. he's saying that just nerfing old stuff isn't necessarily going to make new stuff meta. if the new stuff is ass, people will play other old stuff instead. or if the new stuff is all support for old stuff, there's nothing to use the new stuff with.my perspective is you need to both nerf the most obnoxious old stuff, but without totally killing it, and simultaneously buff the new stuff that's not doing well. jalex points out shaman warlock and paladin are already using their new stuff decently. shock shaman shredlock and auradin are all viable at worst, but rogue and dk effectively don't have new stuff like that. they just have pieces to add to old decks. if all you do is nerf control dk, dk just doesn't have anything to play. emerald dream is all control slop, lost city is all control slop, timeways is a halfbaked frost aggro thing. my view is fuck dk let those faggots rot for a year I really don't care, but that's not a good game design philosophy to have. dk players should have some way to use their cards
finally you fucking cunts fucking gatekeeping hsreplay paywall faggots fuck you reddit fuckers fucking cunts I am number in the world came from eu couldnt afford any cards grindded literally all the cards i needed in 8 days and raped you burgerland ladder and now the game is finished pay me fuckers
>>545784223>>545786162I like to see a lot more buffs, but I am also getting really tired of jalex shit. rogue always has something playable but so many classes just get left in the dust for months or entire expansions. I think he would be singing a different song if rogue was one of those classes
i'm so fucking tired of losing because i rolled bad cards and my opponent rolled good cards >:(
can you use battleground portraits in normal ranked? seems a pointless if you cant
>>545784735She's playable in Owl Druid since she's a guaranteed copy location, the problem is Owl Druid is just a bad version of Mech Warrior's OTK atm.
All classes should have at least 1 or 2 playable decks that let you reach legend without being favored by the algorhytm and this is something that is not happening nowadays. Balance team should work harder.
why are there like 2 good cards in this entire expansion
>>545787242he'd be complaining non-stop about the shaman cards being dogshit in emerald dream and un'goro the same way he used to complain about rogue's festival of legends and titans sets being garbage back-to-back. I'd love to see buffs to shaman's older cards this year but the vocal community will never echo this opinion because they're too fixated on buffing the NEW cards for the NEW set to enable NEW decks which is what the devs should've done for shaman proper back in emerald dream and un'goro but they failed, which is why the class has a critical mass of diarrhea cards right now.
>>545784337almost every viable deck of the last patch used this tactic
>Mage>Druid>Priest >Shaman >All of them almost useless in this expansionCora, i never thought i would say this, but is time to work, bitch.
coras silence is deafening
>>545782573murloc decks seem like they'd get completely dismantled in this meta
>>545795202>silenceI can hear her braps from here
Returning player here. Is this worth it? I feel like my standard collection is fine.
>leeches to 0/1>leeches suck at the start of turn>All leeches cards cost 1 more across the boardNow they're balanced.
>>545802253>Kill leeches and make them unplayableListen i find leeches opressing too but that's not the way.
>>545803259I don't give a shit. I want to see them dragged out in the street, gangraped by 100 indians, flayed alive, be covered in salt and tossed to the dogs. I don't want balance, I want revenge.
>>545766230Rogue doens‘t force me into 30 minute torture sessions
>>545801915depends how much $10 is to you, i'd only get it if you were close to the classic pack pity
yea, i'm done until the patch hits!
dummy -> deathrattle deal 5scoundrel -> costs 4, reduces by 2underfel -> reverted to 6 temporary cardsgreat dark beyond -> deleted from the game
>>54580191515 packs is fuck all, especially if you're a new player with no collection. You'd be better off buying one of the ready made decks.realistically, if you're not willing to drop $500 as soon as you start, then you're better of going F2P for a year to grind gold and then consider spending money after a rotation hits and you've got a decent amount of cards from the previous years sets. that's when spending money will have a genuine impact on your collection since you go from almost complete decks -> complete decks (right now you're going form no decks -> no decks by spending cash)
I sure do love fighting Diaper DK when they drop this shit
>have board>have card advantage>opponent casts yogg fyrakk>has more cards, clears board and builds his own
shredlock is cute but it's super shit. literally get a SINGLE one damage aoe and the game is over because it can't refill at all and relies completely on rolling the nuts with nurglings + the +1/+1 buff
>>545781923I am pretty sick of this whiny baby player base at this point. So what you can't play your stupid Starcraft cards which should always have been a "for fun" wacky three month short expansion in Standard. However, we "disrespect" your stupid 2000 gold and force them into wild early.Damn holy shit that was so hard. I sacrificed a mere fraction of 2K gold and got to have an entirely more fun meta that is actually freaking interesting.OOOO I CANNOT MAKE DA STARSHIP I GIVE DEATH THREATfucking autist cocksuckers. its literally that easy jesus H
>>545816686rogue and questlock and diapers don't play shartcraft cards
they really need to study DK players. this is actual mental illness
>>545816686People still act like it’s 2015 or some shit, like the game doesnt throw you free meta decks and 100 packs at you. Not to mention the endless gold cards you can dust for full value AND still keep the cardIt has never been easier to be f2p, some idiots just choose to drop 500 dollars on packs every expansion because they cant wait a week to do their weeklies, and get angry at everyone else
How do you check how many wins you have left for the day?
>>545781923>people want us to change things>we won't, howeverwhy even make this post?
>>545818356who is we? this is a jalex essay
>oh wow new expansion>again>I will play shartcraft insteadbravo!
Starcraft is a problem but the Great Beyond as a whole needs to go asap. Fuck starships and fuck Zergs/Protoss.
>>545803259the devs had no problem completely killing aggro. they shouldn't have done that either, but they need to treat every archetype equally. or keep hyperpushing control as the game bleeds players because getting farmed by leech dk for the 18th month straight will make 90% of people uninstall and never come back
3rd golden class donewhen is cora gonna stop sucking butter down and fix the golden hero bug
you now remember leeches wont rotate until 2027
>>545820216>the devs had no problem completely killing aggroit's the highest winrate archetype in top 1000 legend but desu i think it's rigged somehow. play the deck yourself and it's clunky as fuck and can't win a game, it doesn't do literally anythingpeople will say shit like "it punishes greedy decks" "it punishes bad draws" and shit like that, but... it doesn't. i basically agree with you that aggro is fucking garbage and picrel just makes me think the game is somehow rigged rather than thinking i'm doing something wrong or missing something
>>545824073It kills Rogue, and is a low enough percentage of the people playing that people don't want to stop playing Fyrakk Rogue. It's really that easy, you fucking retard. It's the highest win rate because it has like sub 2% playrate, but if you look at even lower prevalence decks, there's some even higher win rate decks because the meta at top legend is so dramatically different from the rest of the ladder.
>>545823881thats okmonk will have a card that prevents minions being summoned from spells
>>545824557>you fucking retardLMAO autist triggered
>>545824750
>>545824073>hIgHeSt WiNrAtE>on a 200 game sample size>directly below it is a greedy control dragonslop pile with 3x the games played and only .8% wr dropretard
Clean run with dragon enrage warrior. The 4 drop that gives you a +1/+1 weapon is underrated. Chronolord Epoch serves as a sort of Kayn for warrior, I can understand if people cut him but it has its moments. I even swapped a precursory strike for slow down, probably makes the deck worse but it's already good enough that you can afford a little jank, at least climbing through diamond.
>>545826102>retardlmao another autist triggered
Marvel Snap won
>>545828978I hate to admit it, but I quit in 2018, not long after Brode left. I just felt that magical spark left the game. In hindsight, I should have stuck around and been patient for HS to get back on its feet.
>marvel snap wo- ACK
>>545828978>Marvel Snap>So dead every single faggot i know ever tried it is now hooked at rivalsLOLLMAO even.
>>545828978>the general that had to migrate off /vg/ becasue they only got 20 posts per day by 6 unique posterswinning
>>545827612is it actually good? people on comp hs clowned on the deck for being too highrolly and doing literally nothing if your mulligan wasn't insane
>11 months since fyraak released and it's still clearing my board while doing a pyroblast worth of damage to face and developing + buffing their board
>it's been 10 000 years since starcraft released and they're still fucking broken shit forming the backbone of half a dozen cancer decks
>>545828978disneyslop is so fucking embarrassinghow do you cope with falling for cash grab after cash grab
>>545831135Sanguine Depths into Stonecarver is the high roll but Giftwrapped Whelp into Peddal Peddler is still high tempo. Dark Rider into Creature of Madness starts slower but you'll have dark gift minions as well as activators for Dragon Turtle. For the most part it worked well, people start getting overwhelmed if you can stick the board and drop Windspeak Wyrm against face on turn 5. One issue was against facing death knight. The leeches don't deal damage and can't active enrage effects, they force you to stop hitting they're face. A handbuff death knight healed himself full multiple times with buffed Pterrodax. It's a really awful matchup.
I just crafted Aura Paladin deck.
What brought me back to Hearthstone was WoW pissing me off and this key art. I never knew just how fond I am of the HS style.
>>545838861I can't imagine returning to this game if you DON'T want to be pissed off
>>545836697you might get some dust back....
>>545838861the art for this expansion was actually pretty good, the sylvanas tummy was great. timelooper toki was probably the ugliest card this go around. or that diciple of the dove.
>login>dkdkdkdkdkdkdk x9001>logoutDead game.
>>545836697pretty good deck at beating up do nothing control. gelbin on 6 or multiple fyrakks overwhelm them
I like large men
Mulligan guide for weapon rogue pls
>only "new" build around deck from this expansion is aura paladin which is the third curveshit deck paladin got this year
Is Deios warrior actually good?
Wtf is this deck ?he just played discovers untill he fatiguedi smell some combo in his hands...
>>545849526its NOT deios its fucking same mech dummy deck now with faster otk Cora
>>545849526it's just dummy warrior but now people are running mana cheat again for it so you can do turbo retarded bursts of damage with 1 mana dummy + deios + weapon
what's better to get, 2 leggos + packs for 20 bucks or spins on the gacha worth that much? i expect the packs?
>failed to rat combo (2times)>failed to clumsy sissy>punished by 10+10 10+10 comboBRANN ON MENU BOYS they never learnshould played another elise sooner for ARMORMAX (mb still lose because he have brewmaster)this is my losing game after >>545849551
>login>aggro dh>aggro dh>questlock>shredlock>aggro dh>aggro hunter>shredlock
>>545850836God I wish this was true. I miss aggro so fucking much.
The only new card I've played against today was a mech warrior playing deios
How easy is it generally to hit 100 and get one of those hero portraits before season's end if you don't cough up for the pass? No sweat if you just get all your quests done or will you have to put in some solid extra hours
>>545852235Easily, I usually only play a few times a week and still complete the pass without it being close. The pass doesn't expire until early March next year so there's a lot of time.
>>545852235doing all your quests lands you at like 150
tell me a braindead deck i can spam without getting tired of it, i just want to grind wins, preferably for DH or DK since i have them at lv40
>>545852235I don't have that much motivation to play, so I generally find it easy to get to 50 for the legendary, but I usually miss the freebie epics and shit every expac. It does take some effort in my experience, I've only gotten to 100 once and that was because I loved playing Rush DH during festival.
>>545852808no such thing
>play 10(ten) games for 75 exp
>full clear board>next turn>followed by warleader and shatauraFucking powercreep every yearsee ya next patchim not complaining that only one example
>>545852235If you complete all the dailies/weeklies and nothing else, aka the bare minimum, you should end up somewhere between 150 and 200 without pass, so very easily.
>>545852808Control DK is completely braindead but it's not ideal because games take a lot of time.Aggro DH is fast but kinda shit and very fragile.
Druid is so shit right now.
>>545858243warrior ramps enough to cover them so it's fine
>8 damage>x2 Deios>x2 Boom wrench + SwingThis only adds up to 32, but why does it actually do 64 damage?
>>545862667Never mind, I just realized the boom wrench's deathrattle also triggers twice
>>545855560 >Spider tank>Yetiunc....
>first arena opponent plays constructed shredlockcan't believe this shit man
How many key-word mechanics are there that actually saw use past the expansion they featured in? Off the top of my head all I can think of are>Discover>Quest>Reborn
>>545865714lifesteal, rush
>>545865714>battlecry>deathrattle>rush>charge>dredge>spellburst>forge
>>545865714They go out of their way to retire keywords for some reasonEven if it comes back they don't reuse the word itself
What's the card you hate the most in the entire history of the game? Last year I would have said Reno hero or Snowfall Guardian, but lately I snap concede everytime pic related gets played on turn 2 for how back breaking it is against any deck trying to honestly win trough the board. Hostile Invader is an extremely close second.
>>545867009You are right, a full board delete and not being able to play any minions for a turn or healing to 40 that is in literally every deck is nowhere near as annoying as 2 damage + 1 lifesteal
>>545867009imagine malding about a 1 attack charge minion
Best advice for somebody who plays MtG and YGO wanting to play this?>inb4 dont
>>545867126Holy shit Reno was such fucking evil design. However, at least it was turn 8 and later 10, if I'm playing a board based deck Infested Breath is often a game over on turn 1/2.>>545867127Kill yourself, disgusting DK tranny.
>>545867151downloading the client would be a good startiirc they give you some shit decks at first but eventually you get a choice of "ladder ready" decks with Warlock being close to the best deck in the game
>>545867009For me it's this. Every single time Shaman used to be the best class in the game you would lose to Doomhammer + double rockbiter at some point. It's also why I hate the new Zephrys. I would uninstall every time Shaman was getting pushed arbitrarily. The entire Shaman class is either garbage or cancer, no in-between.
>>545867370I love playing against DK because its such a slow and shit deck that gives me ample time to build up my bullshit
>>545867151if you've played magic you'll get the hang of it quick
just opened chronogor, am i screwed
>>545867834I have good news for you
>>545868702it doesn't even go into the shredlock decks it's supposed to go in
>>545869002How is it supposed to go in Shredslock? Even if it was at a playable cost, it does nothing that Shredslock cares about.
>>545869180deals 6 damage to opponents face
>>545868989I think most people get the picture that they're one or two cards away at this point, anything that's better than the dogshit DH tourist package.
>>545869180it gives the 2 0 cost debuff cards to your opponent if you've shuffled any into your deck
Chronogor WILL be the games best tech card when the first expansion of next year is a goblins set and there's a bunch of bomb cards.
>>545869245>>545869534Doesn't the opponent gets to draw 2 cards (from your deck I guess) since the Shards cycle themselves on draw?
IMBUE OMEGALUL
>>545870343They draw from their deck. Unless they get Catacombs instead (catacombs is so much better than Chronogor that you will never run him ever)
I forgot that cursed catacombs got nerfed because I like the current version of it more.
When discover mage rng hits just right
i have a secret sauce for climbingjust play wild and lose a bunch of games then play standard
>>545867009Dummy I will say it again.Dummy. I have seen and find oppressive other OTK decks but at least with those you have some sort of “race” against the wincon with the absolute insane amount of armour that Warrior can put in game there is no race to run you wait for literally 45 mins until the stupid beak dead faggot piloting that shit deal ten thousand damage to your face.Broken? I don’t know, infuriating? Considering the waste of time and the way you die, yes, extremely.
>>545875429it's not that deep just play a good deck and don't make too many mistakes
>how long can this go on
>>545862667this broken btw
>>545768548>>545767412I agree with your assessment, also you should kill yourself
Aggrolock and DH is the most fun you will have currently
>play rafaam deck in brawl>it's kind of funI never thought the day would come.
>>545880462enrage dark gift dragon warrior looks more fun
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>>545880898It’s not fun in normal, u always get dirty ratted
>>545867151never played ygo but from magic, you need to wrap your head around no instant speed interaction, no activated abilities, no phases just turns, and attackers choose targets. lots of times you need to carefully sequence your turn where you attack with a couple creatures, then cast some cards, then finish attacking. but its really not hard to understand after you play for a few hours in the baby ranks the game puts you in on a fresh account
>>545867151every rule as to how the game works is the complete opposite in hearthstone
>>545867151Easier than Magic (and less predatory surprisingly) less Powercreep than YuGi, but you have to consider that the balance is still shit, that unless you are willing to pay you should stick with at best 3 classes and that you ALWAYS play on your turn even if you have some minimal”trap” effects
>>545882737>rafaam counters diaper completely>they usually run a couple rats if they're running the full diseased diaper packagebravo blizzard
>>545894467How you fix this problem?Exist any way to make Rafaam still work without erasing the fucking rat?
>>545895096Make it summon and not play is very easy and effortless
>>545578806Let her cook.
>>545896447yeah i was thinking that but are there ways to pull them out of the deck and onto the board yourself this way?
>>545897183not in standard the only draw and summon from deck targets beasts off the top of my head
>>545897183Technically, Nemsy can summon 6-cost Rafaam, but that combo is stupid.
>>545898579i thought she was only demons from deck
>>5458987536-cost Rafaam is a demon, so she draws and then swaps with him when she dies, which would count as a 'summon' and not 'played'.In the same vein, Finja can pull 3-cost Rafaam from deck, but like the Nemsy combo, it's stupid.
>>545899417Right gotcha
>>545897183Effortless? NoKeep in mind warrior can consistently otk you from hand on turn 9, nothing compares to that in this theoretical Rafaam deck
>turn 6 fyrakk>elise copy>warlock quest gets played>starship cardsMoments in Hearthstone where you have to stand and applaude.
>>545904907I hate when my opponent plays cards
>>545904907for me it's leeches on curve
>>545904907For me it’s dummy trigger, again and again and again. I always clap and cheer for Cora.
UH OH EPIC WIN ALERTANOTHER COIN CREWMATE RECRUITER TURN 1 IN ARENA
>>545912796amogus
>>545829426did they ever add crafting cards in this game, i left cause every deck content creaters made had 5-6 rare cards i did not have and couldnt even buy.
Worth?
The sheer amount of board clears and health/armour gain present in the game currently is absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what sort of deep-sea creature could enjoy playing shit like Quest Warrior or Diaper DK, and there's no way anyone enjoy playing against it. If I see another Warrior gain 10, draw 2 cards for free from For Glory off the crocolisks he just gave me and then Hostile Invader my whole board I'm going to lose it.
>aggro is dead they said
>>545578896I hear you but why are you playing hearthstone?
>>545920282Shredlock is disgusting there is a reason why it has such high WR
I uninstalled the game
>>545922146Good, now you have no reason to post here.Bye.
at least this dumb deck seems to still lose to nebula. I dont think I've faced against the god draw yet, but this was after just eating 48 deathrattle damage
>>545920515Excellent question, just closed this trashfire mid match, thank you
>>545922146I implore you to reconsider.
>>545928846Monk when? That cutie panda should be a character right?
>>545917330they released booster packs with small pool of cards to let you gamble for them but each pack would cost like a months worth of resources
>>545928846I'll re-install when monk comes out (never)
>>545928959>>545929162I think we can agree that LiLi not having her own card is blasphemous. Also for those that don't know pic related is how she looks in Midnight.
>>545929162>NeverNext year, anon, China is our flagship and they will have the dedicated class guaranteed
>>545928972absolute shameless>b-b-but i need mickey mouse and iron man to do my full combo!
>>545928959I don't think they're announcing monk until the next blizzcon, which is at the end of 2026
>>545922598>48he didnt' do the combo right thenat minimum it should be 64
you now remember that 24 hour period where people pretended that broxigar DH would be a thing
Is this femboy rafaam?
>>545681401so when are we getting this?
gelbin paladin seems shit because you have no way to reliably get gelbin
>>545939883Blind, anon?
>>545929780>China will never own the control of the game in your lifetimePerhaps I am okay without having the most addictive card game ever I need a life.
>>545937587Gender bender more likely...
Obviously dummy has been a constant source of pain but I feel like even a nerfed to shit Brann/Riven has no place in the game anymore and is just going to result in nonsense cheat shit out of any class that can take advantage of him.
>>545929780Is china being wildbvllz why we don't get standard balance patches?
Garona has decent winrate in 3 different decks right now, Fyrakk, weapon and Protoss. Seems like one of the safest crafts of the expansion if you like Rogue.Lo'gosh also seems to be surprisingly decent.
>>545945505For me the safest crafts of this exp are:Garona, Talanji and Logosh. All this cards are guaranteed to stay being competitive after upcoming nerfs.
>>545943754rework this card like new shrudder and problems solved
fuck all the trannies that want warrior to die, fuck all of you and your strogen filled brains.
Don't worry bros, as the only person playing Druid I'm brining our winrate down to near 0%. Blizzard will be sure to notice and help us out.
>>545929216My Li-li's all grown up *sob*
>>545948909chud warrior anon...