calm before the storm edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>545525028
I miss the thread IP counter, why would they take that away from us?
Nice thread dumbasses
A game where you play as a bastard and a bitch!
Can a love between a bastard and a bitch even bloom
my mental illnesses incapabilify me to make any game
oh you motherfuckers, listen: steam revenue calculator says trainwiz made 43 fucking grand net from 366 reviews at $19.99. HE is fucking saying that he has fucking netted 300 fucking grand. now use your retarded brain and wonder for yourself for a moment, how in the FUCK, could he possibly net 300 fucking grand off of a review estimation of 43 fucking grand? riddle me that one, retards. we're talking 7 fucking times difference
That time of the year again, huh.Stream in 8 hours and 20 minutes (4PM GMT/11AM EST)Will stream games submitted to DD65, will post a list of games for stream later, after DD actually starts.https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalker
Bastard bitch!
>>545604435How big is your anime folder anon...
>>545604739lol lmao, imagine crying over trainwiz winning at life while you have to fund your own game through kickstarterenjoy being a loser LMAO
Somehow this idle mobileslop has shitload of players
>>545605478are you maybe retarded?
Tik tok valve
>tranime opGrim
>>545605869I mean, it's literally mobileslop. I don't get why it's this popular
>>545605989What's the fee? What's the cut? Where's the catch?
>>545606134You really are dense, the point of the graph is that casual mobileslop is the highest earner
>>545606358>the point of the graph is that casual mobileslop is the highest earnerthe point of the graph is that the dozen mobile games that make all the money on mobile get more money than the dozen pc and console games that make all the money on console and pcit's revenue not revenyou
>>545607060>dozenA single game is responsible for 80% of the revenue, Roblox (basically it's lego Garry's mod that used to be aimed at kids for those who don't know).
are you making the game you would have been a diehard fan of as a kid?
Okay I think I'm cutting scope here, might not be the great atmospheric lighting that I wanted but I'm too smol brained to figure this out within a reasonable amount of time. I'm simply no Acrolyte dev tier smartness, I just hope the cheap lighting won't ruin it too much but it looks good enough for now. Also I still need to draw the sprites and make code so the lights work as intended.
>>545606101Have you not seen 95% of the banners on this website? How about the green-haired girl when you're banned? This is an anime website, you aren't wanted here.>>545608039You could have 10,000 movable ray-traced lights using megalights, but you didn't choose UE for some reason
Them dates ain't the same. What I'm pose to do with that?
>>545608714
>>545605478dopamine
Good morning!Time to work on me game.
>>545605478>free>mixed>complaints about paywall
>>545609521Yarrr, it indeed be time.
Reflections on what really works in video game development today.>Don't talk to gamedevs.>Stupid YouTube and TikTok shorts.>Wish lists.>Take the mobile market into account.>DLCs to reuse buyers.>Discounts below $5.Requirements: Your game has to pass a quality threshold for people to buy it without thinking about it.
Why does the peripeteia fag keep sending his shills to review bomb my game?
>>545607972UhI only played shitty browser grind games and maplestory as a kid. and warrock.So no.
I'm a steamie, I make slop!I don't care if all my games will flop!
>>545607972I would have quite enjoyed it secretly, but not really a fan.
>Check out Edmund McMillen's new game (Mewgenics)>it's a goddamn SRPGNot what I expected. Why is every game this guy makes in a different genre? I have seen several indies do this, and it's always bad, since they cannot build up an audience and the design outcomes is non-transferrable from one game to the next.
>>545610029I played doom and ZAMN a lot as a kid. So, I definitely would have lived this if it were a ps1 game. I recommend finding what it was that made you fall in love with games and use that.
>>545610350Cool it with the antisteamitism.
>>545610720Sex RPG?
>>545610720they hope for the best
>>545610727My favorite games are AAA character action/adventure. Dragon's Dogma, god hand etc. So I quite literally can't make my dream Deep Down game until I have enough success and funds making small games. that dude working on a dream game for 6 years to get 50 reviews? nah, that's not gonna be me.
>>545607972Huh, what games I was a diehard fan...?Contra games, Super Mario World, beat'em ups, Tekken 3. Unfortunatelly most of these were technical marvels when they came out or had a lot of sprites and animations, the juice, to make it really pop. Some of the games already had their spiritual successors done, published, I enjoyed them, found plenty of flaws. I don't think I could improve on the formula. I'm doing the next best thing.
>>545610720Unfortunately that's what makes being indie great. AAA devs have to conform to what stockholders deem profitable. Indies can experiment and try new things That they find fun.
>>545610720>Not what I expected. Why is every game this guy makes in a different genre?with him specifically it's because he doesn't make his games.
>>545610794Strategy RPGs (Fire Emblem-likes). Despite liking turn-based RPGs I tried several SRPGs and just could not get into them. I hate that genre.
>>545604739wow meanwhile I just change my residency to paraguay and the stealing stops at $196k
>>545610903This is good!>>545610915You can still be inspired by those games, but scale down the scope to still make something clever and fun while building up to your dream game, and don't forget, you could have a team of 100 people working with you and still take 6 years for 50 reviews...That's always the risk.
>>545611219Meant for those replies to be switched. My bad.
>>545610720>Why is every game this guy makes in a different genre? He's rich and famous enough to treat gamedev like an art rather than a job.
>>545611391>rich and famous enough to treat gamedev like an art rather than a job.i aspire to reach this position
>>545605989>>545606152>Where's the catch?It's made by bytedance. Now look at capcut which is another product by them, they utterly fucked their entire user base for money greed. There's no way those chinks are going to give up money, they might bait and switch devs promising a 5% cut and then increasing it to 50% out of nowhere, it'll be worse than the gaben tax
Free game idea: spiritual sequel to Summon Knight Swordcraft Story. It's a cult-classic with no modern parallel. Someone please make it.
>>545611695i feel like this genre of relatively mediocre game with unique art has been lost over the years
>>545611926it was a game in GBA. no shit its gonna be simple.
https://youtu.be/MvVQxaZkPgchttps://youtu.be/VV7k01bbI9Qwhat happened to these types of games
Play my game now, bastard bitch!
>>545611926Swordcraft Story in particular I feel has a lot of untapped potential. The basic structure of dungeon exploration -> weapon crafting -> daily boss fight is quite good. The sequel was worse off because it abandoned that structure.
>>545611926Nah, RPGmaker games like Black Souls and Fear and Hunger fill that niche.
I got banned for including bastard/bitch in my post but I wasn't the spammer what the fug jammies!!
>>545608851I actually look like this
where are da loligaems?
>>545612997Bastard bitch jannie why you ban me!!!
im completely empty, i feel like something has drained every drop of passion and creativity and desire and evetything else from my body, and im just a husk
>>545613349I'm also trans and got raped btw idk if that matters
>>545613349take a break
>>545613349>im completely empty, i feel like something has drained every drop of cum and horniness and everything else from my body, and im just uwu
>starts in the middle of the nightfuck you
What happened in the last thread?
>>545613684fuck you
A scammer on the v3expo Discord is sending private messages offering a free year of "Claude Code" and "Comet Browser" for game development. They provide a referral link to the Comet Browser, which earns them $3. The scammer then instructs you to log in with your Google account on your mobile device to "sync" your data. This will give them access to your personal information, such as your Gmail and contacts, across multiple devices. I tried telling the owner of the Discord, but he blocked my private messages.
>>545613684you japanese or Branno?
japon es cagada
>>545613937I may be physically in the PNW, but in all others I am japanese
>>545613684>he's not doin all-nighters for 7 days straight before DDIt's like you don't know what a determination is
>really like the idea of ECS>thinking about using bevy>check out the official rust introduction guide>its filled with quirky big chungus humorsomething tells me the majority of rust programmers may be of the transexual kind
>>545614143
>>545614158Most high-end programmers take estrogen for the neural boost and end up becoming addicted to it.
>>545614261Correct. We also wear compressive full-length socks to improve bloodflow to the brain, and a vibrating buttplug which improves concentration
One time i went to the shooting range and they said i couldnt go in unless i came with someone. Then i said huh okay can i do the fishing thing then? They said no.
>>545614493What's the real reason for troon stockings? Hide leg hair?
every thing is going according to planevery thing is goodevery thing will stay good
My game is like half-done and I still don't know anything about steam, I don't even have a developer account. Should I start looking into steam now or is it too early? How much work does it even require to integrate my game with steam? I assume I have to bring some kind of steam DLL into my build?
>>545614932if you're lucky it'll take a couple days at most to get your account set up and your game verified after you purchase a game slot and upload the files for processingif you're unlucky it could take weeks or monthsafter your game is verified for release there's a mandatory 2 week wait before it can go on sale after it's made visible to the publici'd say it's worth setting up a devleoper account on steamworks and getting your store page set up
>>545614932>How much work does it even require to integrate my game with steam? I assume I have to bring some kind of steam DLL into my build?You don't need anything actually, if you don't plan on adding achievements or network.
>>545615096Achievements and being able to save the game filters most aggydaggers including crumble
>>545607972No. I was really into platformers as a kid, but don't have the endurance to animate a platformer to my satisfaction.
updated the bokube demo again to a 003 version that fixed a ton of issues and restored all of the advance moves like double jumping, down dashing, and dash sprinting (hold dash input after you land a dash to roll at a crazy fast speed) https://bokudev.itch.io/bokube
>>545607972i can say with 100% confidence that kid me would love the games i've madebut my taste is unpopular, so the games didn't sell, and i need to adhere to more market-friendly standards in hopes of making money
Benchid!! You play my game now, yes!!
>>545615505>kiddie shit game>rated m for matureRetard
>>545615553>gamer that likes obscure/flopped games is an eccentric connoisseur of gaming>gamedev that puts out obscure/flopped games is a faggot incel loser who should kysWhy is it like this, bros? It's unfair...
>>545614234
>>545617174Me when my game on Steam FLOPPEDENEDERED
My game and I suck more than a thai ladyboy.
>>545617490Can you suck me off then?
>>545604739>>545605394Trainwiz, please relax, and come back once Underspace has like 1500+ reviews. And, think; has for instance Markus Persson won at life?
>no job>no publisher>somehow lives in San Fran>endlessly tinkering on her game without any worries
>>545617771Welcome back bokusimp!
>>545615505will you add 9001 more levels and features before release?
People accept games with all kinds of AI in them EXCEPT the voice AI. Why? It's literally the only thing I used AI for, voice acting. I commissioned the music and did everything the rest by myself. Yet people hate me on me for using AI voice more than an indie dev using AI arts. Why? Is it because people value voice actor more for some reason?
>>545617893Have you thanked your daddy today
>>545617904Wrong yet again. Shitposting won't fix your game, Wizzyboy.
How do you tell the difference between "I'm bad and that's why it's bad" and "this shit doesn't work"?I'm working on a control/movement system for my game. It's novel, I haven't seen any game control like I'm imagining it but...It feels like fucking ass right now. It's so fucking slippery and hard to control.idk if it's because I'm bad at programming movement or if it's a bad concept in the first place...
>>545618385>It's novel, I haven't seen any game control like I'm imagining Maybe there's a good reason for that...
>>545618385>"I'm bad and that's why it's bad" and "this shit doesn't work"?You need a wide-enough sample size to tell. Say, you have 100 players total. If 50 don't say anything, and 50 say it's bad, then I'd say it's a skill issue.If only 10 say it's good, and 90 say it's bad, then it's a problem.For real world applications I'd say you need at least a 1000 different players to tell for certain
>>545618385You should have the combat and movement system prototyped completely separate from the rest of your project, with a bunch of sliders and values exposed, so you can play with it and adjust the movement variables in game until it feels right.
>you will never have a noclip documentary made about you
>>545618764True. But my future police interrogation will be JCS kino
>>545618764womans have it so easy sirs
>>545618764That’s because I won’t stop naming the Jew and hanging out across the street from the Freemasons lodge staring at them coming in and out of the building, nothing to do with my talent.
>>545615505>Change your cameras perspective! Rotate the camera around a level to understand how to solve or navigate Boku! You can also zoom in the camera on Boku at any time.lol bless your heart child.
>>545618764they cancelled mine. >so here is where you crafted your masterpiece huh?>yep>desks a bit messy>yep>nice guitar, can you play us something for the b-roll?>nah>your sketchbook pile is pretty high, can we peak inside?>no
>>545616802gamedevs are expected to make money>>545617893neetdevving is either extremely enjoyable or extremely stressful depending on whether or not you actually want to make money and how much time you have to accomplish thismaking a reasonable living from your games within less than five years? lmao good luckhaving fun working on various hobby projects at a leisurely pace? joyous
So my husband is working on a game as you all probably already know and has been eating a lot of scrambled eggs to save money for ads as he says, but no matter how hard I try I can't make them taste good for me, I tried so many spices already, but they always taste like warm jello.
so, um, do you still believe in me?
>>545619301You just cover them in pepper.
https://youtu.be/e5i77G4k6f4afrokino
>>545619340depends, which ai are you using?
>>545619340Maybe, if you show me a sign. Give me something to work with anon.
>>545617174rotate sisters, how do we respond without sounding mad?
>>545619446I'm not using AI>>545619449It's a 3d dungeon crawler with a small overworld. Massively overscoped for a single dev. I recently stopped taking ritalin, so it's grim.
>>545619638>I'm not using AIngmi
>>545619487By putting a demo in 3 hours.
>>545619446>>545619669You really need to find a new hobby.
imma just let my bugs be
>>545619810nah fuck you niggas, there is no way yall aren't using ai, you would have to not only be uber poor but also uber dumb to pull that off
>>545619908You have to learn how to use a hammer before you can frame a house with a nail gun.
>>545619908No you're not listening. Forget about us and what we're doing. You need to find a new hobby.
>>545620162ah i didn't peg your post for a meltie, at last i truly see>>545620060and ai will help you learn
>>545619638>It's a 3d dungeon crawler with a small overworld.Should not be too complicated or big.But I am working on the same thing.
>>545620235>and ai will help you learnIt can, but someone who can teach themselves with AI could have taught themselves with a book.
>>545620293and someone who can drive to the walmart next block could walk there, your point?
>>545620350The AI isn’t going to help anyone who doesn’t know the basics. My point was stated above, you can’t frame a house with a nail gun properly, unless you learn basic carpentry with a hammer first.
>>545620060>>545620293>>545620560Why are you debating with an actual retarded person.
>>545620613I’m procrastinating adding the next feature to my demo.
>>545613208I'm working on mine, but it'll be another 3 years till I'm finished...
>>545619340>>545619638Alright. I am going to believe in you anon. You have 2 months to put something down on the table next demo day. I'll be waiting.
>>545620714sex with vamp
>>545621029That would be elder abuse
Blender will be implementing AI soon, along with most of the major game engines. This will happen as the general public gradually becomes less averse to seeing AI stuff and will be less rewarded for spotting it or calling it out. By this point gamedevs will be rocket launched into new productivity while the AI cultist who spent all his time shitposting and complaining about luddites will basically sit back and say "yeah I told all of them to use AI, I did all of this". This will be his biggest achievement in life is trying to take credit for inevitable technological advances. But the point is he can't compete with gamedevs now and never will, because he spends all his time coping with nogame by bothering productive people who are actually making something.
Do you guys mind delaying demo day for 2 days just for me?Thank you in advance.
>>545621272I still won't need AI even then. What I need is a better workflow for rigging, animating and texture baking.
>>545621647I wouldn't mind but unfortunately I am not in charge of Demo Day.
>>545619810>>545620162this transgender eceleb worshipper is seething all day about AIxou lost
Kinda got mindbroken by NG4..Yeah I get it's made by the best Action studio, with the 2nd best right by them, and Microsoft money butThe animations, the blending, the sfx... Fucking mind-blowing. Is there even anyone going it as hard as this -anywhere-?Fuck man. I want to make a video game like that. god damn it
>>545621668It will be built right into the tools and become standard. There will be no reason to worry about workflows for asset creation, you'll have to find something else to worry about.
>>545622115Not only do you need a new hobby, you need to date a transexual or something and get it off your chest before you hurt someone.
>>545622435I decide my own standards.
lulditte xisters, our response?
>>545622915post progress
>>545623008stop replying to him(trainwiz spammer/aispammer/500 games ever microsecond spammer)
>>545623067see >>545623008
mom i posted it again
>>545623067I... i can't do it! i can't not take the bait! FUCK!
>>545618764my noclip documentary is going to be about me making my game while homeless. of course I'm not going to get any props because I'm a brown man instead of a white whaman.
>>545623067This. You can click previous thread link in every OP going back the past week and search for xister and see he posts this every thread sometimes more. This person is sick and makes all the actual gamedevs using AI look bad.
Thinking of pricing my game 1 USD on Steam, then slowly increasing the price as I add more features and content. Is this a valid release model?
>>545623109Here, see you in three.
Being right is tough
>>545610013>>Stupid YouTube and TikTok shorts.literally impossible because games are landscape and shorts are portrait. bad advice.
>>545623203that's how Factorio is doing it but the problem with Steam is that you get most of the views and promotion and revenues in the first few days so the only reason to release early is if you're desperate for money or feedback.
>>545623242Then on 4chan you have to deal with all the entrapped pedophiles that are working as criminal informants to get their charges reduced.
>>545623242>luddite xisters, our response?This is your heroic attempt to spread the truth. Autistic fumbling with forced memes and posting the same webm of an AI game that literally looks like what gamers make fun of when they think of AI slop.
>>545623380If you plan to support it long term it will be fine, but I doubt anyone here could pull that off since even the top dogs of this place didn't.
>>545623242What are you right about
>>545623448A couple of months ago, AI couldn't generate fingers; now it can make slop games on its own. I'm just the messenger.
>>545623498That being right is tough. It’s a circular statement. You just say it and it’s true.
give gamers what they want
>>545618764my documentary would be so bad... it would be more like a depressing hikikomori documentary, and not even a fascinating one, just a very boring pathetic one....
>>545623498
>>545623556>I'm just the messenger.Spamming the same 4 words, doing the gay as fuck "xhe" and pronouns stuff from 2016, just general buffoonery. That's all you're good for. Let the grown ups do the advocating for AI. Your job is to serve us delicious melties.
>Marnix just got married to a cute Japanese girl Lifemogs me
>>545623581Based.
>>545623724getting married is for cucks thoughbeit
>>545623724comparison is the thief of joy, they say
>>545623715Nuh uh xister, I'm my own womxn and will do what I think is right. Feel free to seethe from the sidelines though ;)
see you guys on spillexpo later today soon! :steamhappy:
>>545623724I wish I had this...
>>545623724I'm used to being lifemogged in every way by almost everyone so it doesn't even faze me.
3 years of development, tons of content, still <3k users and $100 in total revenue. Do i need to dump 20k in marketing or what?
Now imagine a fat bald middle aged man being aroused while posting this >>545614493
>>545624041nah it gonna pop off in 2 more weeks max
>>545620791Won't let you down, fren.>>545620282Nice. Looking forward to playing your demo.
>>545624041Link for reference if you want to try it out. Constructive criticism only pleasehttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gerarddummett.fishyidle
>>545623849I will look for the guy in bocchi cosplay
>>545614493forgot your eceleb worship or boshart the reddit pic xisterfygoon predicted this btw
>>545624275>Constructive criticism only pleaseStart constructing your next 3 games immediately and release a new one every 2 months.
Resident macfag here asking that you please upload a mac version of your game, especially if you're using Godot, it makes it so easy.
>>545624387How do you not feel physically sick just repeating the same 3 words to everyone for 12 hours a day. Must be the low IQ.
>>545624421how am I going to sign it without a mac?
>>545624421Sorry but out of principle I have chosen not to ever support any Apple products.
>this is not the I made a game and it failed thread what do I do now?>If you are looking for feedback here on an already released game>NGMI
Reminder that not spending the extra 1-2 days to make a mobile build of your game is shooting yourself in the foot.
>>545624275>>545624041what's the 'story' supposed to be? gnorp has dwarf-like guys mining a rock with near fanaticism, there's a game where you get 1,000,000,000 free draws in a gacha and have to pull them all, there's one where you're just clearing up the screen of leaves so it's all pretty againwhat's the story here? Are you satisfying the human's OCD nature? Is there some sort of "we must mine to the center of the earth starting with picking pebbles off the surface" story? what's going on?
>>545624501Godot uses an "ad-hoc signature" which basically means you don't have to use X-code or anything and a Mac might ask if you're sure you want to run it, but you'll be able to run the game.
>>545624584>1-2 days to make a mobile build
>>545624608Evelyn is an alien fish, it must grow and defeat bosses on earth. Also there's a mining minigame where you destroy a wall, going as far as possible
>>545624584>just implement an entirely different UI and monetization paradigm in 1-2 days, bro
>>545624307im not a bocchi poster an i dont costplay
>>545624654>>545624726The AI will do it for you.
>>545624584It would take a year for me to make a mobile build.
>>545624619are you sure? because that's something you could run on your test device but I don't think apple would allow end users to run something without a signed identity
>>545624584I'll make a mobile build if the PC build sells well. Don't wanna split my focus too early before PC release.
>>545624021This, I have always been behind on everything, it's rather freeing when you finally let go and do your own thing.
Uhh.. I, uh.. ahh well... hmm.. A kings field like
>>545624827https://docs.godotengine.org/en/latest/tutorials/export/exporting_for_macos.htmlJust checked the docs. The ad-hoc signature only works if you export from a Mac yourself. If you build and export your game on PC it won't work.
>>545624584>he doesn't know how pain in the ass App store guidelines are
>>545625027My friends from high school and college are getting married but I've made 2 video games
Shameless shill post:Day 2 of the /agdg/ showcase is happening TODAY at 6PM EST at https://twitch.tv/nine_ten Come check out what your fellow anons have made (both new and old).Might cut down each game to ~25 mins and try to throw in a few of the new Demo Day picks too.
>>545625202Vouching for this guy, he streamed my game to 150 people the other day and drove a lot of traffic to my Itch demo.
>>545625202That's a very neat idea for streaming, hopefully next time I'll have a demo out too.
just did a solid hour of programminggonna play some video games and then do another hour or two of work and then go to sleepvery productive day>why not work morebrain fatigue>>545624584mobile success is 100% dependent upon advertisement budgetbe preparedsee links below for the disparity between thronefall's steam release and mobile releaseview the review countshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2239150/Thronefall/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.doghowlgames.thronefallhttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/thronefall-a-little-kingdom/id6744029320and now compare the success of its mobile clone with a substantially larger advertising budgethttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.run.tower.defensehttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/kingshot/id6739554056i'm not saying that mobile is impossible, but without deliberate conventional advertisements, a mobile game will flopthe benefit of steam/PC is that your game can at least still find success purely through social media exposure, you don't need to spend $5k a month on ads to see a return
>>545625202>>545625303Also vouching for anon, he drove a few sales for me.
Me at Oslo spillekspo
>>545625662never crash outnot worth
>>545625202Pity you are way way too late for me, but I appreciate your display.
>>545625531uh thronefall is like $8 on android (and still sold anywhere between 10k and 50k units) and the other game is free.
>>545624473i only come here when claude code limits are cucking me xissome people(trolls) are copying my posting style
>>545625202I'm sad you didn't pick my game to play, but appreciate you being here
>>545625531>Kingshot makes 1 million dollars per day!
does anyone need an artist?
>>545626153Post your art
>>545625531>mobile success is 100% dependent upon advertisement budgetAs if it isn't on Steam.
>>545626261steam is more reliant on exposure, which can be achieved for free through effective social media campaignscontact the right influencers and they'll give your game enough free exposure to spark the momentum your game requiresthe mobile industry doesn't have this luxury
>>545626153Sure$1000 / commission
>>545624236My demo is scheduled for next d-day. I need to get better at SDL first.
If you are making a solo game, you should be targeting web to help you build a fan base who can quickly access and test your game.
>>545626474Where's your web build?
>>545626474Yes, that's why I target aggly daggly.
My fucking neck is hurted! Ow!
>>545626474You have to maximize every opportunity and minimize all barriers to entry for new players to become engaged with your content.
>>545626549On my web page
>>545626549I only found out about the demo day coming up 2 days ago. It will be up in a few hours. Everything else I had wasn’t ready, so I decided to do a meme game.
>>545626375>steam is more reliant on exposureRevenue* The only thing that matters is your game making a milly in a week of its launch, and if it doesn't you're shit out of luck. Somebody post that ugly game with 0 reviews that moistcritical or whoever the fuck played. How many reviews it has now? Probably not a lot. And after the devs 15 minutes of fame expire, his game will be dead again. Because it doesn't bring in a thousand dollars every hour.The only way to bring in the paypig audience that will is by straight up bribing youtubs and streamers to play your game for a week to astroturf it to be the new FOTM, or get lucky with the algorithms but the latter doesn't count.
You absolutely need to make a web build if you haven't. You still have about an hour and it's not that hard to figure out. A lot of people are wary of downloading random files from strangers so you'll get a lot more plays and more feedback on a browser version.
>>545626924How were these shadows done
Man why couldn't DD start tomorrow? I'm in my wage cage right now
>>545626924Reminds me of Ridge Racer. We need more games in this style
>>545626474my audience don't know itch.io exists
>>545627079debunked
>>545627215I'd give up my game that I worked 18 months on for a place in a wage cage. Any kind of wage cage.
>its really simple>gamedev is a feedback loop>but everyone keeps looking at the outliers>the quicker you release to your play testers>the quicker you can iterate and tighten up your gameplay loop>or simply move on to the next project
>>545627137vertex painting
>>545627391Not that hard to apply for a job. It's much easier than making a game.
>>545627461How do you vertex paint the car when it's under the overpass
>>545627334You can put a web build a link to it from any website. You’re audience should be coming to you directly, and you telling them where the content is located.
>>545627572>if car is in shadow>draw car texture with 50% brightnessYou could do the same thing with pre-baked lighting.
Guys! I used AI voice acting in my game! Will you play it?
>>545627527>Not that hard to apply for a job.200 job applications for entry level almost menial jobs2 interviews0 offersFor me making a game was much easier.
>>545627572they don't use it on the car, they just switch the material to be darker instantly when you are under it. there's no 'half under', it doesn't project shadow into it.
>>545626856nice
>>545627903if you took all the combined time you spent making shitposts about AI voice acting and put that into making a game, you could have at least an entire jam game by now, if not good progress on a game
>>545627980*for the smooth transition in the last part of the webm, they are sampling the shadow where the car is and lowering the cars material brightness. and because it's a smooth gradient, the car darkens smoothly.
>>545627918Please tell me you didn't fill out those applications with "No work experience", "Can't work with a team", and "Unwilling to learn and grow". Right anon?
>>545627215I won't submit my game todayI still have a shitton to do!
>>545628217>if you took all the combined time you spent making shitposts about AI voice actingWhat???
>>545624387Sorry I'm late
its ludover
>>545629579doesn't even look like real footage
I thought I would skip this DD, but looks like I digged enough demo changes since last time to submit it again, yay!
Anyone else notice that every youtube video you watch is so obviously written by AI. Seeing humans speak with the same prose as ChatGPT is fucking sad.But then when you watch a video by a normal person it's just some guy appealing to his own emotions basically self fellating himself on camera verbally. Like did this person even consider the possibility that I might not have the same opinions and feelings about things that he does?It's created an extremely small subset of youtubers I actually enjoy because when they're opinionated and emotion it's about the subject itself and that's what I would called passion, and that's why I enjoy watching them. But the problem is youtube made this memebers only bullshit so now all the good shit is behind locked doors. And that's not even to mention that finding new content that is good is literally fucking impossible because the algorithm is a slop factory. Btw I speak the the prose of a 4channer, except I'm linguistically cucked because jannies been spanking me a lot for saying naughty words. YOU FUCKING KNITTER! My favorite words rhyme with digger. But you gotta admit that people being offended by "le racism D:<" is so fucking funny, like a fucking word makes you shit your pants so hard you need to silence me? I mean 4chinz doesn't even have sponsors anymore, they only ban you so hard do you buy a pass.>TL;DRplease share youtube videos and channels you've found that are good, that shit is more valuable than gold.I recommend JakeDontDraw, he's got great videos in understanding traditional art that aren't boring as fuck.
>>545629964You can't post the same demo twice?
>>545630034gamedev? nigger is permissible if you are black like me.
>>545629579did he ask for a cat girl? no, so why did it do that? stupid AI
>>545630204My personal rule.
>>545630204It's not that you can't, it's that you don't do that to respect others time.
>>545629579Holy shit it is SO over! Truly I can feel the technological singularity happening as we speak/
>>545630204IMO you should at least have new updates worth getting feedback on.
>>545630665cute maids... for a maid cafe horror game inspired by future hit game wasteland bites
>>545630589>>545630664>>545630846Alright, got it!
i am the bocch
27 MINUTESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
god this tea is so trash, tastes like cardboard. but there's some ginger in it so maybe I'll drink just 1 a day.
>>545629579Not even real video of using the app you can see that the cursor isn't operating the box selections at all. I was sick of everything being fake and gay nearly a decade ago not knowing how much faker and gayer things would become.The future is so fucking fake and so gay I can't even imagine it
1 -> 999999999999
No one is actively looking for new mobile games or watching streamers playing them unless it has AAA budget, while pc games still have this luxury
>>545630923no more maid cafes
432D 17H 42M 08S
>>545626474I made a web build first but then AGDG told me to switch to g'doh.
All my neglience is coming back to kick my ass
>>545632227Godot’s good. The web builds are a bit hefty for small 2D games though.
>>545630345Yeah, share good gamedev material.Learn how to read. Just cause a post is 90% context doesn't mean it's not about game dev.
>>545630034This post was written by AI that's why he can only allude to speaking the Word of Power but not actually say it.AI can never be dragonborn as it is forbidden from speaking Thu'um (slurs) like real heroes (racists). AIfags BTFO they can never refute this.
>>545632006truth
TWO MINUTES>TWO MINUTESTWO MINUTES>TWO MINUTESTWO MINUTES>TWO MINUTESTWO MINUTES>TWO MINUTES
Uploading the new build now, so I'll go over the new boss here.You have to unlock her by talking to her in the hub area -> "about the challenges" She's optional, but should help to bridge the difficulty spike a little.If you don't get her sitting at the small shelter, just go to sleep there to reload NPC positions. 1. She'll probably win any poise trade with you.2. All of her attacks can very easily be avoided from neutral, but her block+push move can cause you to be stunned during the block animation of some attacks. You can also choose to space it out like I do here,3. If you get knocked down or stance broken, she'll immediately follow up with an overhead swing, so conserve MP to use mist form to cancel out of it. Knockdowns can usually be recovered from, but stance break stun will last too long that you need to cancel it with mist form. 4. All of her attacks do a very high amount of stance damage, which you can throw back at her by using the new reversal skill (default 4th).
>>545632423I'll post my favorite gamedev channel if you post yours.
Don't have a good enough build for DD, maybe next time.
Here's my demohttps://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/2933614
>>545633105Huh?
https://youtu.be/b4E2-Kb-txYPlease watch the first two minutes of this video. Please. It annoyed me, and I don't know if it's my fault. I could be coping, or he could be telling the truth. Please watch.
Don't forget trollbrosdownload everything once a daydo not leave comments on anything to make them think it's THAT bad.
It's truly over.
>>545633660its over demo day cancelled
just make better games breh
>>545603717Submitted Archtower new demo:https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/316978Most important demo changes since last demoday (DD 60):Added a new method of drawing the health bars of enemies and followers (you can switch to the old one)Added insignia for enemy and pet health bars (improved enemy, elite, mini-boss, etc)If you close the game on the lose screen and the character is not dead yet, you can continue from that choiceDropped loot is saved if you quit the gameHealth pots and potions are graded every 5 levels (every Act), if the level of the pots is too low, raising them only replenishes half/quarter of the potHealth pots and potions have a use/recovery animation, potions have a 1 sec cooldownRebalanced the chances of getting healing pots and skill resource potionsLevel requirements for skill upgrades have been lowered to allow for a less restricted distribution when leveling upRats and small gobloids can jump when attacking if their target is higher than themMost long-range enemy attacks take into account the height position of the target when firedHefty eating characters can eat during combatAdded a reminder message to eat food (if char didn't reach level cap)Barrels can be pushed aroundYou can hold down the Use button to keep picking up itemsFor the modifier button on the gamepad, all bumpers can be usedIf a character is created in too old versions of the game, that are not well compatible today, a message pops up periodically about it, suggesting retirement of the characterFood in the tower and out of the tower is different, but works the sameYou can now get two rosters with tower upgrades, "Beginners" and "Experienced"The game now keeps track of the maximum level reached for each class (does not take into account previous saves)(1/2)
>>545633706this meem will never die
Hello Anons and welcome to DD65!This is most likely 6 Ways to 7's second to last demo day. If you check out the demo, you'll see there is now locked content, as I prepare to justify the 10$ price tag I'm planning to ship with. I've also put the demo up on steam, please wishlist! https://store.steampowered.com/app/4005440/6_Ways_To_7/Anyways, here's whats new in the new demo:>Special chips can have enchantments, which give different effects>Select-able dice from the new Dice Bag, letting players have more control over possible rolls>New Music>New NPC Art>Tons of new Special Chips (Now over 85)>Lots of bug fixes and chip interactions fixed >Difficultly progression (Locked in demo, join discord for the full version!)https://axelstems.itch.io/6-ways-to-7
>>545633706me and myself
>>545633675i assume he's talking about triple A studios
>>545629579>wake up>look at /agdg/>someone posts the lastest AI scam>they still don't have a game>go to sleep
>>5456339966 7 !
>>545633919When choosing a new character, the level of experienced adventurers cannot be higher than the maximum level reached in their classMost quest keys can be used by simply going to the correct door and pressing "E" (by default)For "Arrows" (bow, crossbow) and "Rounds" (rifle) ammo a new property "Unique Reloading" has been added, such ammo works for a single weapon only (in demo it is only Arrows)Perfect Block is available to all characters, it stops damage completely"Confusion" effect is separated into two effects: "Confusion" (mental confusion), "Shock" (physical confusion, +defense ban)After completing some quests in the tower, some quest enemies can sometimes spawn againAdded AZERTY keyboard supportAdded option to erase old saves in Extras (if you need to restart your old progress)Fixed long texts for skill descriptions and other things taking too long to show upFixed when the first-person camera would sometimes let you see what was going on behind the wallsFixed the problem of hero getting "stuck" by walls at a low angle of movement to the wallThe code for generating bonuses on good (green) and better items has been rewritten and optimizedOld prefix items are broken with the new code, but they can be fixed by talking to the Tower Attendant (this will be available temporarily)Optimized the code for generating power crystal descriptions (old crystals can be repaired by talking to the Tower Attendant)To avoid crashes and character loss, Dropped Loot is packed into one item only if there is no already packed loot in the inventory (with packing, the weight of dropped loot is reduced from tower upgrades)Fixed an ancient bug that crashed when trying to raise the STR/DEX/INT for characters created prior to v0.4.2.5 updateSmoother light switching between lamps(2/2)
>>545633680Holy shit I'm getting a download a day!
Where the streams atGo play Acrolyte https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/2453951
i think it's kind of silly though because the devs who try to make good unique fun enjoyable games end up flopping because they didn't put enough resources into marketingso the games you end up seeing on the front pages are the shitty cash grabs made by corporations who pump out MVPs and spend the rest of their energy on advertisementsthe state of the industry is a fake problem
Where's my DD fanart!
>>545633675He looks bald
Alright, I finally worked up the mental fortitude to finish a list of things i need to finish so that I can submit today. I gotta take another hour long break.
>>545634695did you finish the tasks on the list or did you just write the list
Ill submit it next demo day maybe
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FANART
>>545634695There are only 8 items on the list, but each I know there are a bunch of hidden design considerations likely haven’t considered, even with such a simple game.
onwards to 1:115 review ratio
>>545634752I just wrote it. I need a smoke break. I’m slow to start, but once I get in the groove, those lists are quickly 50 items long each with 5-6 sub items, and have two different AI agents start chewing through them and I’m reviewing code and approving code.
>>545632560My mom was upset when I got the wifi banned from /pol/ for being too racist. So I have to follow global rules and I'm not allowed to post on /pol/ anymoreYou knitter bitch.Ebin skyrim reference btw
someone viewed my game and decided not to download it.I guess thats ok
No review marines hold the line
>>545635045i'm kinda similar, once i'm confident my list of tasks is solid, i become a work machineplanning is harder than devving
>>545635071Target web, title screen and music in there face from the moment the decide to click on it. Makes it way easier for the streamers to pick it up and demo it too.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2533600/Bloodthief/this guy made like 70k in net profit, and quit his job.LMAO
>>545635215no reviews is easier than having 2 to 9at least 0/1 you pop up on the meme sites for it2-9 is gabe newell's purgatory where youre only allowed out until steam users deem you worthyi am not
>>545635071The total happiness in the world has increased.
>>545635219The AI helps so much though. I’ll type in the sloppiest description, tell it to refine it as a new prompt of what I actually mean to say giving it the code documentation, and it puts out a prompt that I then use for the code change requests. I have it go to the check list, and do only one item off the list, and add implementation comments to the completed items.
>>545635368i wish him well
>>545634956My game only solded 46 copiers and got 1 natural review, wtf did you do anon?
Would anyone play demos or just download them and then watch streamers playing them
>>545630665is this ai?
>>545635375>gabe newell'sFatfuck gabencunt's*
>AI art?>no I just use Chinese slave labor to animate things>its still cheaper
>>545635606gunna play a good chunk of them, the ones that honestly seem pretty interesting to me, then i'll put it up on youtube.so far i got Acrolyte (looks fucking metal)putt downuntitled spider mechalchemikalmonster freaksarchtowerwhich other ones are also notably good?
if gamers realized how many unique titles were smothered under mass advertised minimum viable productsand how many talented developers gave up because their games floppedthey would hate valvethey would be disgusted
>>545635912>Implying gamers give a single shit about indie devs
>>545635912good games don't fail
>>545635981gamers give a shit about good gamesand it is very common for good games to FLOP due to a lack of advertisingbeing buried under the 50 daily new releasesnever being promotedpeople don't realize what they're missing out on
>>545635912Some of them do. But they're a very small minority and they're often namecalled "EGS shills" even if they don't give a shit about EGS at all.
not seeing it submitted this demoday, but i recommend checking out another aggydaggy game called Jennyhttps://awk.itch.io/jenny-game
>he skipped the prototype phase and went straight to production
>>545634195that's a trapdon't play ityou will enjoy it too much and doubt will consume you and you won't be abe to work on your game anymore
>>545635996>good songs always become hitsretard
>>545635912they do, if you look on the steam labs forums for the new calendar, half the complaints are how only popular games are shown and that old games are ignoredvalve needs you to buy pe- oh wait no, RV there yet because you need 4 copies though
>>545636215please provide an example of a good game that failed
>>545636162that's me
>>545636278Illusive domain
>545636278>provides example>UHN THIS DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT/IT DIDN'T SELL ENOUGH SO IT'S NOT GOOD!
this'll probably be the last DD for Solitaire Battle so give me feedback while you can
>>545636221i will check this out>>545636215please be kind>>545635996good games tend to perform well, but compared to their potential, they are often outshined by games with stronger promotion strategiesgood games aren't enjoyed by as many people as they should be due to suboptimal promotion algorithms on steam>>545636278survivorship bias makes this difficulthow can i find games with poor performance and analyze their quality?
>>545636278Roody 2d
>okay today I gotta finish 2 animations to be on schedule>okay this is taking longer than expected, but at least I'll finish one animation>okay I couldn't finish the animation, but tomorrow for sure
>>545636339>anime shart slop with limited appealnext.
>>545636278prey
>>545636507it's not even released silly
>>545635515In case anyone is wondering this is what a crab actually looks like
>UHM, CHUD, I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT DOESN'T COUNT!Called it.
>>545636162Honestly I think a lot of devs use prototyping as an excuse to spin their wheels for months to years and never commit to fucking anything.I think it would be better if they jumped right into production and went, "I'm finishing this no matter how bad it ends up being."
>>545636491>checks steam page>graphics look like someone’s unpolished VB6 demo from 2003Next.
it's not that good games fail.it's more like ALL games tend to fail but some games get lucky and that extra bit of luck pushes them above those other good games that fail, sometimes just a little bit and sometimes a lot.
>>545636547The original?I love it but i wouldn't call it good.2017?it didn't fail.
>>graphics look like someone’s unpolished VB6 demo from 2003But Brigand Oaxaca is le soulful kino that rightfully succeeded, is that right, jeety?
the faggot that post loli pornography asking tips on character design, should just code a randomizer of danbooru tags.Honestly, some of the designs I get using it, are 10/10 designs.
>>545636671No, it's a good game that failed. You've been proven wrong and emasculated so hard, your estrogen levels have doubled in the past 2 minutes.Anon get feminized by being proven wrong so hard.
>>545636557They failed when they chose shota cat boys as a main character. Doesn’t matter when it gets released.
>>545636574wtf how
>>545636814You jest but these are unironically the graphics that people want in 2025
petition to make a rule that you cannot submit the same game consecutively to DD please
>>545636916people with 1.6 nostalgia are not buying your game.
>>545636671>graphics look like someone’s unpolished VB6 demo from 2003you talking about nubby's number factory?
>>545636842It could be a good game, no one will ever know because it doesn’t look polished enough to pay $15 for.
>>545636990>you can only seek feedback on your game onceretard
>>545636838
>>545636992It's not CS they're nostalgic about.It's the sharp visuals, MSAA, games that didn't run like shit while looking like a vaseline covered mess, etc.
>545636992Funny how he ignored my post and went for the reply instead... Probably because he knows his position is retarded and has no logical leg to stand out.
>>545636842Is it is a good game, its an actually a good target for someone to quickly clone, polish, and make money off of the game design. It sucks, game design isn’t protected by copyright and trademarks.
>>545633996I played the tutorial and then until defeat. made it to level 3. 7/30 achievements. here are some scattered thoughts.playing the game was kinda confusing, rolling the dice many times to get a number on the board felt off, took a while too. I like that there's a tooltip help button. never played craps before. I think I screwed myself with some of the upgrades making victory tougher. Didn't like the screen zooming on NPCs sometimes. music was good. I'm calling marvel about the wall art you STOLE!
>>545637132>reading comprehension
somebody ask chatgpt if good games fail
Now that i think about it there are no good crime games
oh no no no steamcucks... not like this...>>>/v/725197365
>>545637156>524 reviews is failing for an indie dev?
>>545636990>>545637132Imo the bigger problem is streamers spending 20-40 minutes on every game and getting maybe 30 seconds of new content. Submitting your game to multiple DD is fine because as a player you can just skip over repeats.But the streamers should cut games off early if there is nothing new happening.
>>545637352retard
>>545636814It’s fine if you have a niche and an already established playerbase, but I was specifically referring to the 2D sprites in Roody:2D. There is nothing wrong with using a retro aesthetic, if you are willing to put effort into it and provide a polished product.
>>545637424>no argumentsasuga
>>545635368I thought he quit after getting 100k wishlists
>>545637303That's because indie devs and gamers are sheltered retards who only know medieval fantasy or sci-fi. Urban environments, especially contemporary ones, make them shit and piss themselves in anxiety.
>>545636708megadebonked
>>545633208those assets look much better than your usual ones, good job
>>545637284SNK is infamous for releasing 2D fighters that are commercial flops, but recognized as to be the most polished gameplay and nice graphics of the fighting game genre by the comunity.
>545637472It's not my problem you're so subhuman you can't even grasp the point I'm making.
>>545637453>game is bad because it has few reviews>game is better because it has more reviews
>>545637228>playing the game was kinda confusing, rolling the dice many times to get a number on the board felt off, took a while tooPart of this is just craps, but you can bet multiple numbers. The common strategy is to bet the pass line -> then 4 - 10 and roll until you hit a 7 out.I'm glad the starting tutorial helped at least, not knowing craps used to be a complete non-starter, at least you could progress some though the game. Thanks for playing!
Uploaded: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3379127I'm late, the sky was purple.Major changes are: weapon rebalancing, first person weapon animations, radar mechanic (to see loot from the boat), loot items to buy boat upgrades, new mutations, level 1 reworked, enemy rafts, bosses rebalanced a little, difficulty options, key rebinding.Still missing music, levels 2 and 3 are largely the same
r8 my new monsters (half of them I didn't model, and half are reskins):https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3646460/view/588409432234263477
>>545637309>2,500 reviews is a flop?And why did he spend 7 years working alone on a 2D platformer? He’s not smart, he’s a masochist.
>>545637575>please read my mind and interpret my obtuse pointnah im good, keep seething (or post a real example)
>>545637516thank you grok, very cool
>>545637516how does that debunk anything? what do you think it's saying?
>>545637604No. I said the game could be good, but it does not look appealing enough to pay $15 for.
>>545636162I abandoned all my prototypes. only my leap to production game made it far into production...
>>545637679Okay, I'll dumb it down for yous 70 iq jeet brain just this once.You hinged on "graphics le bad" for roody2d, and said that's why it failed. I showed you a game with worse graphics and art design than roody2d, and you can't articulate why it sold better because you cannot form a coherent take to defend your idiotic position. If you don't understand it here, then I'm not going to bother with you further.
>>545637534but uhhhhhhhhhhh they're 2d games bro nobody likes those they're not good haha
>>545637751Have you learned basic probability and statistics since we last conversed?
Alright crabs, time to go in the pot.
>>545635912found this yesterdayhttps://youtu.be/hFJb3CzPso0
>>5456378791. Not the original poster2. >showed you a game with worse graphics and art design than roody2you did not do the above.
>>545637892do you realize how popular are gacha games?
fygoon hasn't posted his lizard game in a whilewhy?
>>545637531I'll have to recreate the big cloud later since It's an image from reddit. The rest I drew out based off picrel. Had to make a stage out of it.
>>545622915>>545623242>>545624771>>545627903>>545629579
>>545638048hopefully range-banned
>>545637908>didn't answer question because he has no answerthe most successful games are luckier on average. can't debunk the truth.
>>5456380322d games are bad broif you see a 2d game that you think is good but flopped, understand that you are wrong, and the game was not good
>>545638048busy kidnapping that girl
Is there AI porn of Juniper yet?
>>545638189nintendo makes 2D games that outsell most AAA 3D games in the industry.
DD stream in 10 minutes.Currently planned games for stream are:1: Putt Down - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/32250302: Project Chthonic - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/38632403: Monster Freaks! - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/29336144: Ultra Blast Ball - Prototype - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/40176785: SPACEGORE - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/40203116: UNTITLED SPIDER MECH GAME - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/40033127: Silicon Scars (Alpha) - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/22396198: Maid Cafe Coop - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/30524749: Remote Aphrodite Demo - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/396022410: Tank controller demo - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/398538811: Dice Cee-lo Battle - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/402022512: Blorb (Movement Prototype) - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/4017047(actual stream order will be randomized unless the dev pops in the chat)40 minutes per game or less if the game is short. Some of the games seem to be short prototypes so this list may be altered during the stream.https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalker
>>545636814>why did this game fail>it looks ugly>but then what about this beautiful gamenigga, do you have eyes? do you have any sense of taste at all?
>>545638285The best playtester, a retarded russian!
Success is a lottery, hard work only buys you more tickets.
>>545637664he was a perfectionist. he did all the music too. he's like a renaissance man.
>>545638285lets gooooooo
>>545638141If you don't know the math around managing luck and probability, then you don't know the basic math required for game design, and you do not belong in the gamedev thread.
>>545638276i'm joking, i'm mocking people who think this way, people who don't enjoy video games>>545638456and skill increases your odds of success
>>545638557>I can't answer a simple questionthe most successful games are luckier on average. can't debunk the truth.
>>5456342981. If the games were actually good, fun, and enjoyable, they wouldn't have flopped.2. If they had wasted resources on marketing, that would have been less resources going into the game, so the games would be even worse.3. Trying to market is also a waste when you will never be able to outspend the big corporations on marketing. The only way to beat big corporations is to make a better game than them, because you will never out-market them.
Going live!https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalker
>>545638741The sky is blue and water is wet. Not all truths are relevant to all conversations. You're deflecting from your complete lack of skill.
i'd like to believe that if you're skilled enough as a game developer you can reliably create and promote games that generate enough revenue to fund the development of more gameshopefullythis would be a pleasant reality
what would be a good theme to collect names for a massive harem game?I like the idea of taking flowers names, because they're usually female.
>>545638993but I thought you just debunked that the sky is blue and the water is wet?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So10iEglyxI>jon blow badmouths devs that do the pomodoro techniqueouch, that hurts
>>545639004That's what I believe in.
>>545638737>and skill increases your odds of successI can tell you're retarded because you've repeated what I said but with different wording, acting as if it's some epiphany.
I said there are no good crime games because that genre would force you to think really hard.
>>545638885>>545639072don't take his opinion too seriously>>545639298i didn't read your posts, i just assume your point and argue against iti'm not wasting valuable brainpower on pointless argumentsit seems we both agree? splendid
I don't have an itch.io account.
>>545639072didn't watch yet, but I have not had success with pomodoro. for me locking in for 14 hours straight(with agdg breaks when waiting for compiling) works best. just have interesting enough problems to work on.
>>545639390You should make one.
>>545636910Crabs bring people down into their pit of hell.The best for this person is to go back to their job and keep being a hobby dev. You legit cannot retire unless you have 2m of cash MINIMUM.Best case scenario he makes 200k after the moment decays. And that's me being extremely optimistic. It's a nice injection and it's success but it's not GMI if he ruins his life by quitting his job.
>>545639364>i'm not wasting valuable brainpower on pointless argumentsYeah because you have none to waste.
>>545639063It's disingenuous. You're using what is called a motte and bailey fallacy. We've along agreed that luck can matter. That has not been up for debate. However, you keep falling back to "luck has a non-zero effect" to try to prove any other ridiculous point that you want to imply, which is fallacious and logically incorrect.
>>545639004i'd like to believe that if you're skilled enough as a employee you can reliably get and hold careers that generate enough revenue to fund raising a familyhopefullythis would be a pleasant reality
>>545639620it is wise to be selective with limited resourcesmy productivity and my spirits are highi have nothing to fix>>545639579i seei assume he'll improve his skills>>545639742conflating game development and regular salaried work is ridiculousno other form of productivity is as enjoyable as game developmenteven though it's difficult, it is a blessing to be able to make gamesif you disagree with me on this then you are destined to fail and should leave this field
Someone in a /v/ thread said>Congratulations on remaking some shitty ass Avicii/Chainsmokers/etc. style house/electropop music from 2013, this definitely justifies the technology.I'll take it as compliment, if I could make some shittier AAA game from 2013 with using AI all by myself I don't mind.
I get $2000 worth of mombux in thailand. Its a comfortable living but other than that im just trapped.
>>545637494BRUHNo fucking wayWhat kind of giga retard quits over wishlists?
>>545639072this from a guy who has spent 9 years on a sokoban game.
>>545637664Iconoclasts looks good and hardly is a metroidvania, so it ended up being pretty content heavy
>>545603717What do I do now?
>>545640368Make a video game.
>>545640086I don't think he has bad work ethic. just that he's a really bad businessman and so a bad person to manage a game studio. he'll have to fire people after sokoblow flops. or semiflops. either way he's not making 50M again with that one.
>>545638271Here
>>545640368Did you submit to Demo Day? Wait until playtesters crush your game discovering all the bugs.If you didn't you dev.
Is an unfinished prototype worth posting?
blackies, how do I design a game that is autobattler + gacha + encarta + jrpg.
>>545640039he also has 100k youtube subs
>>545640086jblow is a retard, but one thing he doesn't lack is work ethic. It's about the only topic i'd take him seriously on
>>545640395I think he productively procrastinates. instead of fixing the real problems he just makes more puzzles.
>>545639072>JAI>JonathanAI
Since last DD:Improved controlsAdded more books, items, and other effectsRebalanced the game so the early game is easier and the late game is harderAdded more SFX and songs to the soundtrackPlanned features:UI overhaul in the works, just didn't have it ready for today unfortunatelySteam achievementsThis might be the last DD I submit Jargon to, I'm planning on releasing the Steam demo in December or January, then a full release in March after Next Fest in February.In conclusion: play Jargon.
>>545640538you just have to be the type of nigga that designs games that are autobattlers + gachas + encarta + jrpg.
>>545640538>encartacris, if you made a waifu mind maze I'd play it, and tell my black friends to play it too
>>545640538You've already failed in the first step of design. You started design from a result, rather than a goal.
How long is one full Alchemikal dungeon supposed to be?
>>545639072>exclusively hires San Francisco devsHis own fault
>>545639072the blow method: spend 8 hours arguing about seed oil or whatever new shit the google algorithm fed to you to get your ENLIGHTENED BRAIN all worked up and 15 minutes devving
>>545639628luck verifiably has a disproportionate effect. if it matters 5% then the top 3% of games are 35% luckier than average. and that's with me underestimating luck mattering only 5%.when you have a very competitive field where rewards are so disproportionately distributed, luck is the deciding factor even if it's such a tiny amount of the overall score because in such a distribution even the top performers fail. it's not enough for your game to be in the top 5%. half the games in the top 5% have under 1000 reviews. skills and effort may take you to the top 5% but to get beyond that you need luck.
John is one of us stop crabbing him! Its your fault he skipped DD
>ANOTHER DD missed
would you upload a 9 year 50 million dollar passion project to demoday? asking for a friend
>>545641920If you assume luck is independently rolled per release, you simply need to release more games to lower your variance. Do you understand this or not?>but i don't want to make more gamesThen you're not going to make it. I've said this before, but NGMIdevs develop a single game while GMIdevs are developing themselves into a machine who can develop and release video games on demand.
>>545642326do you need feedback on it?
>>545642028You'll get em next time.
just a reminder that making a Overwhelmingly Positive (1,322) game, easily the top 2% in 2025, sometimes earns you less money than working a fast food job.there are few other industries where being the 2% top performer doesn't earn you a living wage.
“Luck” is not real because the world is deterministic. If you believe in “luck” then you don’t believe in cause and effect and the universe should make no sense to you at all.
I’m glad I finally found a thread with other black game developers who understand the struggle of being a black gamer.
>>545642709Ofcourse theres luck its called having the right skills at the right place st the right time
>>545642028>>545567885
>>545642438feedback and fan art
>>545641104like when the game is fully done? probably like an hour at this pace. the dungeon length is a bit overblown right now to add more playtime, but i will probably make each individual level shorter once there's more game
>>545642709>dice are controlled by the hand that throws them and the laws of physics, therefore rolling a die is not a matter of luck
>>545642820You misunderstand what anon is talking about.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism
>>545640541So what? Subs don't mean anything. What? Why would you even say that... Blargis is that you behind the keyboard?Youtubers make money from sponsors, his idea was probably thinking that he was his own sponsor for his own product and that 100k sub became 100k wishlists of course would have been 100k sales for a game with probably barely more than 2 hours of content for 20 fucking dollars lmao. Easily 2 million amirite?He literally has a video saying it took him 2.5 years. For a conservative 70k profit that's 28k per year of work. Bro made minimum wage. That kind of cash flow is life changing... IF YOU DON'T QUIT YOUR FUCKING JOB LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT, BLARGIS. Otherwise that money is just getting fucking burnt.I am literally losing my fucking mind over these retarded actions. What are we not knowing? If he bottoms out at a VERY optimistic 200k of pure profit cash in pocket and he was making between 20-40k from his job (if he was making 40k+ he would be a giga retard for quitting) then that means his expenses require 20-40k per year even if they are not 20-40k of total expenses.That means he can pay for 10-5 years worth of expenses.Right now he's only at 3.5 to 1.75 years of expenses. Cause 70k is 35% of 200k.But still he needs over 3 times his current profit to actually be able to justify quitting his job.Btw he could have done this by putting his game into the 5 dollar impulse buy range which has better wishlist returns. As a youtuber he couldn't even convert his own audience/community. 0.4% return rate strikes again within the 0.5% average.is selling your game at a lower price gives a higher conversion rate it is always more money if you have high wishlists. Why did he try to sky pie with 2m? Why so greedy? Blargis? Is your game really worth 20 dollars? If your game really better than hollow knight?He is not GMI yet, but I will say he is on the edge. If he can make a better product within that annual expense margin maybe he wins.He need tbe smart
>>545642931They’ll give you shit in Vegas if you try to control the dice with magic too, not just physics.
Working is a choice. Everyone has well iff boomer parents and can move to s third world country like i did.
>>545642424>If you assume luck is independently rolled per release, you simply need to release more games to lower your variance. Do you understand this or not?yeah? you're better off rolling dice than spending time and effort trying to calculate their angular momentum and air resistance and friction of the table they're being rolled on.
>>545642931Yeah man, you know the laws of physics right? Since the world is deterministic you can just learn how to throw the dice in precisely the right way to get the exact results you want. So it is with gamedev. Yeah, the gaming world is slightly more complicated than the laws of physics but the same principle of determinism applies, meaning that you can just learn to do the exact thing to succeed.
>>545643189Achtully there is no way to know where the wind will blow as of right now
>When the wishlist refresh hits just right
>>545643140I got you bro. I’m working on a 5 step path for success program to sell here in the /agdg/>join military>get blown up>money for life>make game>profit
>you can just learn how to throw the dice in precisely the right way to get the exact results you wantnigga hasn't heard about entropy
>>545643016just giving his reasons. idgaf didn't read
>>545642707where did she say it's not livable wage you fucking time wasting schizo.
Look guys, all of us black game developers cant be working on a dice game simulator. Some of us are going to need to find another genre.
>>545643268>Since the world is deterministic you can just learn how to throw the dice in precisely the right way to get the exact results you want.nta even if the world is then his body and mind clearly aren't demonstrated by his posts here so he would have not enough precise control, no autonomy, kawaisou.
>>545643279There is.https://howtomarketagame.com/2025/11/04/the-optimistic-case-that-indie-games-are-in-a-golden-age-right-now/
>>545604435A bastich, you say?
I have decided to begin working on 2 month long tick-tock release cycle. Release a game to the /agdg/ demo day for testing, release it a month later while having another ready for the demo day. One of you guys should pretend like you’re doing it too so I feel like I have some competition.
i'm sure a 2 month game by an amateur will be worth buying
He mad.
>>545643837Also, I’m putting my name and face on every title. I’m going full on Sid Meier mode.
>>545643837A woman asks Picasso to draw her portrait in a few minutes. When he requests a high payment, she protests that it took only moments. Picasso replies, “No, it took me a lifetime.”
>>545643571
>>545643516the dev got around $50k from Steam according to Gamalytic for 2 years of work. that may be enough to live on for 2 years for you or it may not. but that's not just a top 2% game by review numbers, it's also Overwhelmingly Positive. so she(?) did everything right, knocked it out of the park and still got only $25k a year for that... before taxes.don't pretend it's not grim. it's fucking grim.
>>545644009I am a professional developer, but an amateur to game development. I’m retired, I’m not doing this for money.
>>545644197oops meant for >>545644009
Was reading a Twitter thread talking about the disappearance of beauty in architecture and design in the 1900s. There’s a common narrative about how it was “WWI trauma” but the thread shows a counter-example in Asia and suggests a more mundane explanation: producers were forced to scale back a little to cut costs, only to discover that consumers don’t actually care all that much. If they can get a house or a furniture for 20% cheaper at the cost of it being kind of drab and plain, they’ll take it. So producers realized all the fancy hand crafted artistry just wasn’t really worth it, and abandoned it.Anyways, I bring it up because it’s kind of obvious that it’s happened with games. The only things that matter are price and content. Artistry and ornamentation are largely useless.
>>545644210Skill issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh7JuL3PRSY
It always gets him. arch.b4k.co has been a disaster for shills.
>>545644310>I’m not doing this for money.hope you're atleast releasing them on itch then
>>545644395I got nothing but time. I’ll put them everywhere.
Fellow ludd*tes, I'm worried.
I'm gonna start a Steam competitor called Vapor. It'll be the new wave of vidya.
>>545644375Update the screenshot coward
I’m gonna make boxed copies with UPCs from other budget PC games in Walmart and put them in stores. It’s only fair, since that’s how I used to steal from them before all these fucking cameras put me out of business.
>>545644570I had this idea a year ago too kek
>>545644276>the dev got around $50k from Steam according to GamalyticJust so you know, numbers on Gamalytic are not exact and (usually) are overinflated. Doubly so if a game has a non-standard review-to-sale ratio.My game has made more than it actually has according to Gamalytic. So those $50k gross may well be an optimistic overestimate.
>>545644570And then partner with kickstarter too
>>545644570There are competitors. Gog for example
>>545644731GOG on deez
Maybe everyone should host their game files on their own servers using standardized protocols, and have a client that browses and directs you to those games websites directly, rather then centralizing it all again.
>>545644861i don't want to use gopher man it's 2025
>>545642912Done as in how long does it from floor one to when the floor 4 boss dies. Cause I died around floor 3 or so.
>>545644861What's stopping people from trying at their own website first and then only moving to Steam if sales aren't that good or if they just want a boost later?
>>545644861BitTorrent/Steam for indiegames, with an integrated crypto payment system, and directing users to the developers website for card or other payment options.
>>545644861What about s bittorent steam?
>>545640765>Rebalanced the game so the early game is easier and the late game is harderhow?
>they don't understand the service problem
>>545644635>So those $50k gross may well be an optimistic overestimateit's $90k gross which translates to Steam paying out around $50k. then developer has to pay income taxes on that if they want to use it to live on.
>>545645080>>545645097Uhm torrenting is illegal, sar.
>>545642709>the world is deterministic
>>545609564there are good implementations of paywalls and bad implementations. Likely it's a bad way. don't be purposefully obtuse v22ax
>>545645065You would do that, that’s the point, but users would also be able to use any opensource client to browse a list of indie games that are reported to a BitTorrent like tracker.
>>545644375I'm always happy when my OC gets a dedicated fan
>>545645203Oh, I thought $50k was gross. Regardless, it's highly likely that Gamalytic overestimated the gross earnings for that game. The real number, given my studies, would be around $70k. I have a hunch that Metal Garden has a higher review-to-sale ratio than average (maybe 1:20) but I don't have anything to prove it with unfortunately, just a hunch.
>>545645273All the developer would have to do to host it is an encrypted version of their game in the open, send the tracker the games metadata, and issue keys through the client to decrypt it.
>>545645065Laziness and incompetence, mostly.The guy behind Spiderweb Software talks about how much work it was running his own store in the days before Steam, paraphrasing: “I know how much it costs, and Valve knows it too, so complain all you want, but that cut is not going down.”>>545645462That’s pretty much how Steam works.
>>545645554Exactly, but without steam taking the 30% because everyone is hosting their own game files on $5 virtual servers.
>>545645248cris is very predictable though
Are there any games worth playing this demo day?
>>545645624If you are selling $5-10 games, 30% can be the difference between being able to do this continually as a career.
>>545645725Bokube demo is out. So no, not really.
>>545645398There's at least two of us who saved it from the same post, but he's too retarded to figure that out. Keep up the good work.
Just grab this make it so prople can upload their games snd put it an electron apphttps://github.com/KevinJDurant/OpenTorrentSite
You are talking about game development as a career, and not just hype chasing, right anon?
>>545645902Hype chasing IS a career.
>>545645858That’s against the whole point. I want people who know how to manage their own uploads and downloads to join so I don’t have to handhold a bunch of retards like Gabe does. You can get on my platform for free, if you know how to host and manage your own game.
>>545645902This >>545645958What NGMI flopdevs don't understand is that to be a good trendchaser, you have to have broad and comprehensive gamedev skills across all disciplines and genres, so that you can be prepared to jump onto any opportunity that might arise.
Literally the only people buying my game are Americans. I have translations in other languages but it's only Americans buying my game. Wtf.
>>545645958Hype chasing is hype chasing, fucking tulips bro. Nothing has changed in 3000 years.
>>545646228Like a lot of Americans? If it’s just a couple hundred or so it’s probably the intelligence community.
>>545645624I wouldn't dare to run an unvetted game from some rando's website.
I get so afraid when I see someone playing my game on Steam... What if they don't like it... What if they refund or leave a negative review...?
>>545646473No ones vetting the code on steam either. That would be the point of the client, reputation, reviews and ratings.
>>545646685that's why I don't buy chinese or indie games.
This entire community is built off of running unsigned code downloaded from itch.io. There’s really no room to speak on the security front in this thread.
>>545646838Actually, this community predates itch.io.
I’m not playing anyone’s demo that requires a download until I set up a separate Windows PC not connected to any network. I highly suggest that anyone starting development in this thread on a new project, target web as their primary platform.
>>545646946surprise tiddy is the best
>>545647068The thread predates itch, but the current community appears to be centered around itch demo days and getting streamers to play their games.
Can the british/muslims arrest this man already.
>>545646946Pohhhh
erm
>>545645646>cris>predictableme parce is anything but predictableone day works on a remake of popeyethe other day he has a 3D AI harem panty grabberanother one and he's painting photorealistic eye cris is a rand machine with unlimited seed at this point
There is a government mandated reason that Google is locking down Android development. The United States telecom system has been backdoored by China for at least 18 months now, and they’re able to read every single text message in the United States. We still haven’t been able to get them out.
>>545647665Can I sex you baby?
>>545647759*Every unencrypted text message
>>545645191The points required to win each round scales exponentially. I made it so the curve is gentler at first but gets steeper around round 10 or so out of 15. Not super apparent in the demo since it's only 6 rounds. I still can't tell if it's too hard or not though. Some players get it right away and start cruising but a lot of runs end up dying in the early rounds.
Spider mech is amazing
>>545648305it's got a lot of jank but it's certainly cool
Godot is engine dev. If you started out doing engine deving youd end up with godot anyways.
>>545644276Well, I ran the numbers. a conservative review/sale rate and 2$ gross a pop gives me 77k total. It's actually insanely grim. the other dude who posted his stats on redit and sold his game for 15/20$ got half a mil for his 1k reviews.
>>545648487No. I did my demo first in Godot. 250MB web build. With my own engine 2MB.
>>545648487I don’t need everything abstracted away, they’re fucking textures. Hand me a pointer.
i can't start the game. I'm running it on wine though. Click the linux export button.
let's say everybody was rich. some sort of universal welfare. but it also means nobody really pays for anything anymore. your needs are covered but the rest is just "free", whatever humans do because they want to.how would you measure your success?
>>545648708Web is an exception
>>545649028>how would you measure your success?By the amount of guns I own.
>>545649028As long as I get to tinker with my machines, happy wife, happy life.
>>545649260Web is the future. Everyone playing Battlefield 6 right now has a kernel level rootkit installed on their system owned by the government of Saudi Arabia and a group
>>545642709Luck is real, it's just that it's only obvious in retrospect, anything can be mapped to a bell curve, those who were consistently trending toward the lower end of not getting their way despite their efforts can be said to have been unlucky
>>545649494>and a group…of very nice Israeli investors that definitely have no Mossad affiliations.
>Remember kids!>When you play Battlefield 6!>You’re giving your money to the people who did 9/11!>BUY /ADGD/!>BUY AMERICAN!
>>545650241>/agdg/>shit got the name wrong>furries are gonna be pissed
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/3668791#post-14721240Jusha is up! Change the genre to a bit more RPG than boss rush :DStill, I'm a bit ashamed, lots of things are still a bit half baked :(
>>545650241Amateur developers game deneral
>>545649028>how would you measure your success?the same way I do now. by the number of women I fucked. it really is the only metric that matters for a healthy man.
holy shit
>>545650914Do prostitutes count?
>>545650826>deneraldegeneral
how do you make a game when you really hate yourself
>>545650919>complains about game visibility>can now use more of your monitor to look at a game on SteamPay your 30% and say thank you.
>>545651352Reroll for a better next life.
Be honest.Is this a good idea?I had the idea of a giant shogi variant, but the game is less a regicide game and more a battle royale, so the last piece that survives wins.But also, to simplify the search tree of the min/max, a random piece is picked.
Premise for a game:>You're a miner in a space mining colony run by a greedy administrator and he's charging you 100 space dollars for every time you go down into the mines and then taking a 30% cut of what you mined before he lets the space IRS take a cut of what's left. 97% of miners are on the brink of starvation while the other 3% along with the planetside aspiring miners are trying to gaslight you about how it's a great deal for you actually and that if you want to not starve you simply need to mine good ores smelters want to smelt.Works for any genre, really.
How do you make s broswrr game with 1000 players actually.
>>545651352Forgive yourself, learn to love yourself, and begin hating other races.
>>545651467I know some of those words. That sounds Ohio.
>sit down>meditate for 3 hours>just observe my thoughts, not trying to change them>notice it's all about relationship stuff and lots of memories>nothing is related to work or gamedev at allthis is the root of why you can't "focus" or "motivate". it's because your brain is trying to process memories and solve problems, but you are fighting it by wanting it to dev a game.what you need to yesdev is a clear head, but a clear head is not achieved by ignoring your problems, cause your head will keep investing processing power into those problems.
>>545651515Then do the sequel where runs to a foreign country in the middle of a pandemic and builds a bunker and a bunch of yachts because he thinks the miners are going to rise up and kill him.
i couldn't help myself to make this>>>/wsg/6022942
>>545651515Man, I should play Deep Rock Galactic again
>>545651767what you need to yesdev is a supportive woman who loves you. it's literally as simple as that.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1389360/Mech_Armada/What went wrong?
>>545651352Use self hatred as a fuel, if i didn't hate myself I'd still be fat piece of shit
>>545652007it wasn't 35% luckier than the average game.
>>545652087Self hatred is good, a fixed routine and following a schedule is most effective.
It's interesting how Cris keeps having game ideas that are similar to the game ideas I have but he's always slightly off in a weird direction.
>>545651576WASM front end using whatever language you want that compiles to web, a C or C++ backend server using a websockets library for networking, a decent 6-8 core server with plenty of ram depending on the complexity of your game.
>>545652257I just had the idea of a shogi variant where every piece is a gacha waifu, and the game is more a battle royale between these waifus.
>>545651352I start a new project every 2 weeks.
Balatro, but friendslop
>>545652506Looks good, more recoil. That take should be shuddering after every shot fired.
>>545648487no, I'm building a different engine architecture than Godot.
>>545651576depends on your serialization really and whatever this sister said >>545652425the bigger issue is bandwidth actually and you didn't define 1000 players, in one single server? sharding? what's your game like, strategy, real-time it defines your refresh rate which goes back to bandwidth uplink
>>545651467Cris, you need to set goals and then design to meet those goals. What do you even want out of this idea? If your goal is to just create any random video game as a way to waste more of your life away, then sure, it's a good idea that meets that goal. If your goal is to create a video game within a reasonable timeframe that as a reasonable chance of yielding at least $100k or even just $10k revenue on Steam, then no, it's not a good idea. Probably less than 0.1% of Steam users know the rules of Shogi, and they're not going to care to learn the rules of a complex game just to play some AI generated garbage from some fat old Columbian.
>>545604786>nitpicking obvious placeholder thingsthis streamer is insufferable
im so jealous of people that have a team / group to make games with
>>545652645Are you-using a renderer-using bullet or its variants-game weights s few dozen mbsThen congrats you might as well have used godot
>>545652767I want to make a coomer game with 256 waifus, but is kinda hard to think of a proper design for that idea.
>>545652827The Architecture is different.
>>545652506>yesdev with > 1k gabens hates himselfwhy does this happen ?
>>545649494Web doesn't solve *any* issues as to why kernel anti-cheat exists, though. Web games aren't the future and it doesn't solve any problems.
>>545652827godot stopped using bullet years ago, the dev is a sperg that doesn't care about making it betterjolt is the new hotness nowadays
>>545652723Just maid cafe with 1000 players
>>545653080For /agdg/ they are the future. There of course will always be the full AAA marketplace, and the issues around it and cheating. A lot of that will be solved soon, when the government forces Microsoft and everyone else to only run signed code without a paid developers account like Apple.
>>545652917That's not your only goal. If that was your only goal, then just make breakout where one out of 256 random waifu jpegs is hidden behind the blocks. That is sufficiently meets your stated goal.
>>545653570My other goals is to add enough lore to each wifu to basically have a JRPG diorama mode, I guess.
>>545651851kino
My wife is bothering me with a conversation and i can't work on my build for DD
>>545653665You can still easily add that to Breakout.
I am supposed to make a card fusion game in Rust with pixels. Grok told me to do it this way.
>>545653420>A lot of that will be solved soonThey can't solve anything. All they can fix is the lowest common denominator crowd from cheating. Windows is bleeding and if they made a move like that gamers will just switch to some variant of Linux. Again, web games don't solve anything at all. The only way to curb cheating is game streaming and even that can and likely will have cheats made for it with some form of visual AI aim assist. The government has no real control in this matter anyways. Web has no future past flash era style games.
Etherwest is now in, play it or face the consequences.
>>545652463Not that one though, because I don't know Shogi. I should learn it. But shogi is sort of like chess, right? It would probably work nicely with your rape game ideas. Like if you had to capture waifu pieces to add them to your harem.
they call me 0070 feedbacks0 reviews0 hope
>>545653960>>545654237Honestly, a game with separate modes, like have a sort of JRPG bunch of town levels with npcs walking around, and a day and night system, and some dialogs, as the "JRPG mode".Could work fine if there's also a separate mode that was like a big shogi variant.And then a super ppppu mode where there's the animations of all the girls the MC.And then a VN mode where you see a basic dialog with all the girls, and a wiki sort of like beastiary of them and their lore.Pretty sure if they're kept as separate modes, that would simplify the development of the game.The issue is then making something that feels like a massive JRPG but without the cost of making such game.
I still have 2 more days to submit.
>>545654237Shogi is a japanese variant of chess.There's some extra rules like you can summon the pieces you capture into your own side of the board and all pieces can crown into stronger ones, which makes it more dinamic than chess.
The longer I troll the thread, the better the game gets. This ended up being much more difficult feedback loop to overcome than I expected.
>>545654317What's your game? I'll take a look at it.
>>545653267let's look at very rough example and OW2 netcode as example for tickrate (20)position (3 * sizeof(float)) = 12 bytes12 * 1000 = 12KB for 1000 players12KB * 20 = 240KB per second240KB * 1000 = 240MB to send all player state to all players a second240MB * 8 = 1920Mbps uplink needed.this is all very unoptimized and worst case scenarioyou can optimize, compress, compromise but this is the basics and from there you fine-tune it to your max shard instanceexample: movement encoded as bitflagsuint8_t move = 0;FORWARD = 1BACK = 2LEFT = 4RIGHT = 8
The game in my mind right now is so ludokino. I'm going to start working on it today.
>>545654214whodev
>>545654708Tell us. And I will not steal your idea because I am nodev.
>>545654731no I post in the thread with progress going back yearsalbeit I have been slow recently
>>545654504I see, sounds cool. Maybe I should entertain some shogilike ideas.
I'm helping my game's artist move. I was trying to carry his gaming chair through the doorway. I had to tilt it sideways to fit, and that’s when I saw it. Underneath the seat and all over the bottom were hundreds of dried boogers. I’m not even exaggerating. I froze for a second and then immediately started gagging. I almost threw up.Are all artists like this? I'm honestly thinking of replacing her after this.
>>545652565If Jargon sells well enough to justify it I'm going to add a multiplayer expansion that is basically this idea. Think Balatro meets Scrabble meets Mario Party. I won't make it unless there is an established player base though.
>>545655338I used to do this when I was younger and was too embarrassed about keeping toilet paper at my computer desk.
>>545654680Yeah, it adds up fast. Positional data alone was 16-24KBps per client for me testing without any optimization at a 60 tickrate.
>>545655482>Toilet paperYou should be embarrassed, ever heard of a tissue box?
>>545603717I would like to doodle some more agdg anchors when my schedule opens up. I don't draw enough
>>545655581You're not supposed to flush tissue paper, and flushing is the easiest way to destroy evidence of fapkin usage.
>>545655482This reminds me of when I was sharing a town house when my game wasn't making much and one of the girls that lives there passed by my room while the door was open and complained about my tissue box next to the table as if I'm some sort of gooner. Girl I gotta clean my hands after I eat my daily bag of doritos.
>>545655608Why not crabs?
>>545655608Honestly I hate people who can do art
>>545655581It's just a roll of paper, don't worry about it.
>>545655806That's called jealousy, anon.
im probably the biggest shame here, i cant make something good, im incapable
I was downloading games when I was recommended https://sokpop.itch.io/sokker it might be a competitor to handball anon, dunno. or you can learn some lessons from there.
I missed my spider mech game being played, crying and shitting myself rn.
>>545652623I think that's from before I added the recoil. The recoil is enough that if you fire while midair at the wrong time you can flip the tank over. Which is kind of a problem because there's no way to un-flip it over. Unfortunately though because the tank drives so fast and needs to smoothly go over pretty large bumps and jumps without bottoming out, the suspension has to be very hardy. It absorbs the recoil (even up to ridiculous unusable amounts of force that send you flying back) better than I wish it could, so it's a tradeoff I have to make between fast and snappy driving versus felt physical recoil. Some slight camera shake might sell it better. The game has no camera shake right now.
>>545655983>crying and shitting myself rnI do it every day
>>545656080Definetly that, also some exaggerated motion for the cannon moving backwards when you fire
>missed yet another demo day
Did BokuDev use AI voices? Sounds like he might have.
>>545656683Oh my gosh, sista!! We gotta cancel him now! As we all know, AI is the devil, so we gotta kill it!!!
Does this guy ever post here? Or even update his game?
>>545656683its that or another 4 years in development, even making your game objectively worse is better than another delay
>>545655806m-maybe... c-consider using *looks away* AI.. to make art?
>>545654832I must keep internal pressure high so that the idea is forced to come out onto the screen.
>>545656683i will now buy 2 copies of Bokube
>>545656986Yes, he used to do it a lot. Haven't seen it in a while but I also stopped using the thread for a few monthes.
>>545655761
>>545654680Theres agones but i doubt anyone will actually do that.
>>545657182get ready to draw engine dev because I'm coming back with power.
Bowling but you play as the pins.
>>545655806Just get into AI, jealousy and ineptitude is the main selling point. You still won't be able to make a game, but it'll make you feel like you can, lol. :-}
>>545657340nodev ludd*te moment
>>545611695this was a fun game, it made the tedious random rpg battles into something enjoyable, a little beat em up. i don't think i beat the game though
>>545655482Kek I have toilet paper near my desk. Even seen a zoomette with toilet paper near her desk as well
Did the build for the spidermech game work for anyone who downloaded it? How buggy was it?
Man, I'm getting 10/10 designs, with my tag randomizer, lmao.
>>545657330Basketball but you play as the hoop
>still not using dev diapers in the year of our lord 2025>ngmi
>>545657712Sex, but you play as the woman.
>>545657592crissy, which one is better?>>>/wsg/6022396>>>/wsg/6022956
How are you supposed to pronounce Cthonic?>Kuh-Thaw-Nik>Suh-Thaw-NikIs the C silent?>Thaw-NikHaving a title nobody knows how to say out loud could wind up being a (marmo)real dilemma.
>>545617174I literally am this guy, I don't just look like him. Literally speaking that guy is me, I'm in the video
>>545657980the first one, it's pretty universal for english
>>545657850I think the second group dance is better.
>>545655608what do the sardines smell like
>>545657980marmoreal is not hard to pronounce if you know basic english
>>545657592@grok, is this true?
>>545617893She 100% is funded by her parentst. Neetdev with not rich parents
>>545658131thanks i didn't make the first gif, but for the second i just used grok imagine to animate
>Yes AI can make games b-but you don't have one
even as technology accelerates into the singularity nodevs will still pretend to have games on /agdg/
>>545658185dunno about that, but man, these designs are way beter than what I can design using my brain.
>>545658625>even as technology accelerates into the singularity nodevs will still pretend to have games on /agdg/more like nodevs will post a new vibecoded game every five minutes
>>545619132Kek>>545622194Its depressing knowing that if I had lots of money, then my games would be ludo kino instead of amatuer hour stuff that looks like someone's kid joined in and made a really low quality game and then audience applauds just to be nice ;_;
>>545658625The barrier to entry was never about how easy it is to make a game, it's about how hard it is to start a project of any kind and stick to it. Most people just aren't cut out for anything beyond working a regular job and watching a lot of TV. Nodevs will always be nodevs.
>>545658796>saying vibecoded games aren't games while being a nodev
>>545657182that was fast!
me and my wife looking at the game we've created.
>>545656986ye i still post here, but i spent the last few months trying to rewrite godot's animation tree so i didn't have anything cool to show.There's a new level in the demo.
>>545647098>I’m not playing anyone’s demo that requires a download Oh no.Well anyway...
lulwutbokubehttps://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/441850
>>545659105she is cute
>>545659196
>>545651257Dope game, loved the demo
>>545623724He showed her?>>545626429Phew cheaper than the artist I had before
>>545658175If you look at three different pronunciation guides, you get three different pronunciations.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_qng2hPv8khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7fx6Y2Yi5chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-PJ396io3cThe common /agdg/ pronunciation spaces it at <Mar mo re al> because Marmo himself spaces the syllables between the mo and re, but the Merriam-Webster pronunciation spaces between the mor and e <mär-ˈmȯr-ē-əl>, pronouncing it the same as "memorial", except for the first syllable.
>>545622915>"Create FPS game">wait 5 minutes>"10,402 errors found"
>>545627918I applied for jobs and didnt even get a call to interview. I have a college degree too. At this rate I really do need to make gamedev workout
>>545659536Based. Know-it-all troons BTFO.Mar Mo Ree All is not how marmo says it, he calls it Mar Mohh Real. And Steam calls it neither, instead opting for Fuh Lop
>>545629579Maid cafe bros....its so over
I added wolves to my game. This gameplay footage isn't that great but for some reason its gotten the highest engagement on social media so far. People really love dogs don't they. Myself? I like dogs and other animals, but also don't care for them that much.
>>545659469>warrior type enemy>can't swim Lame....
>>545632041>Aranclanos shidding and pissening his pantalooonsYou must dev faster anon-kun!!!!>>545635045Kekd irl
>>545660104Add frogs next
>>545659536The fact that there's confusion at all about how to pronounce it shows that it probably isn't a good name :/
AI lost
>>545660314>4 hour long smoke breakI think I need another hour before I get started.
>>545635606I look like this.>>545636162>hes copying biteme gamesConfirmed gmtk watches biteme. They have a vid on prototyping, few weeks back iirc
AI won
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>545636663Unironically I should have prototyped and I came to this realization a few weeks ago iirc maybe in Septemeber or October, a bit before the bite me video came out on prototyping. Now I switched to "I must finish it" I don't want to project hop again. I'm cutting corners tho and may cut scope too.
>>545660591
Whats going on
>>545661083on what??
>>545660351not a bad idea. I'm a big fan of frogs.They represent wisdom Just don't know how to scale them to size. Unless you want giant frogs. But also I would feel bad about killing frogs. Toad style is immensely strongAnd immune to nearly any weaponWhen it's properly used, it's almost invincible
>>545661307i look like this
Me after making it
>>545635045>Item 1 off my list.
>>545661971ai chads keep winning
>>545661796you can't negotiate physical attraction. if she's not attracted to you before making it, she won't be attracted to you after making it. instead you should grow half a foot or so and change the shape of your face.
>>545662290I need another cigarette though. I only had to feed the compilation errors back into it once, and thats because I dont development libraries in the path, so the AI cant build my project and check the compilation errors from the shell. In my other projects I can just feed them lists and walk away from the desk for 10 minutes and have a smoke. I miss the days when it took 2 hours to compile things.
>>545662293see this is incel defeatist shit, people learn to look at the good spots when they like someone, that's why you can see women with men out of their league and vice versa
I'm planning for this to be the final demo before full release. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65/rate/2899365https://jeremias.itch.io/rolling-ball-game-dx-directors-cut/devlog/1106031/rbgdx-demo-v5-edition-update-notes
>>545662293WRONG halo effect from my success will do it you blackpilled shitcell ngmigger
>make 2 code changes>hit compile>walk out office >yell “compiling! Be back in couple hours!”
>>545642707I looked at gameplay, I'm amazed they released it with the shooting mechanics in this state.Horrible impact effects, guns that feel weak. And it's only a few hours long?I'm actually impressed it made as much money as it did, makes me feel optimistic. You say it's top 2%, but look at it. Look how easy it would be to make a better game than this top 2% title (not to be totally disparaging to the game, because it does look interesting and obviously has a lot of effort put into it)
>>545662697Literally me when I had my software job back in 2003 lol
>>545662806: ) software dev is the best job in the world
>>545662697I do this but with taking 2 hour naps.
>>545662887was*
>>545662579so why is >>545661796 him only after making it? why not now?besides, notice I never said anything about being fat. hitting the gym doesn't help incels either.
>>545662293I dounno. I've gotten women just by being a weird as fuck schizoid type and being unhinged and not conforming to social norms. But also I'm handsome..so maybe that helps.
>>545662697>Put code out for review>Run integration tests>Play entire run of Slay the Spire while integ tests runNo wonder I got fired from that job
>>545662763>You say it's top 2%, but look at it. Look how easy it would be to make a better game than this top 2% titlehard. vidrel is not in the top 2% and it took two professional developers 2x longer to make.
>>545663060Women literarily coom more when they have sex with a rich guy.
>>545663334incel moment
>>545663334debunked
>>545663414It was a 2009 study
>>545662981It’s better than it ever has been. You would know if you knew.
>>545663527>trust da sciencelol
>>545663664>>545663664>>545663664
>>545663236I got lucky, I was the only programmer. I was using Python most of the time, I would just tail a random log file in a terminal, and tell him it was compiling.
>>545663228Branno...
>>545663334
>>545663847money really can't change an autist's core
>>545662692This. Plus he fails to take into account that getting famous outs you in front of the eyes of many more women than being not famous. Your game makes it = more women seeing you. Now the question is, can you make a gmi game?
Maybe I’ll put a textbox input in Cooking Crabs! with /AGDG/ so all these sexy ladies can message me directly.
>>545664038notice how there's never autistic handsome guys.
Never lose your hair bros, no bigger chick repellent than being bald. Hoping I can Bezosmaxx and compensate with money someday
>>545655761they're characters from her game
>>545664531>Bezosmaxxyou mean marry a 50 year old mother of two?
>>545664541Ah. Well the crabs are characters in my game, so now it’s a crossover.
>>545655384It could work.The balatro multiplayer mod seems pretty successful. I could imagine doing some kind of shared draft system for a scrabble like game instead of everyone getting individual shops.
>>545664757He married a 50 year old mother of two as a 50 something father so I don't really see any problems here. Though with the money he has he could have gone the Leo DiCaprio route of finding a new 20 year old to bang every month.
>>545663294vidrel made like 6x more than Metal Garden.
>>5456655743.5x in 2x the time.and it took twice as long to develop by twice as many developers and experienced ones at that.success and failure is relative to what was invested in the game.
>>545643452keep crying blargis
>>545643279>>545643571actually you're both wrong you can easily tell when the wind is blowing at any moment of measurement. It's incalculable to predict how it will be in the future though. It's literally one of the simplest nonlinear chaotic systems: lorenz system. It models how the atmosphere convects.>>545643571And where exactly is his steam page full of million dollar GMI games?You know since he solved it so well and totally isn't just a grifter, right?
>>545640486I haven't submitted it
