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Sajam Slam Forever edition

Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)
https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/
>Official link
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/
>How do I get in?
Early Access doesn't require a code, hop on!

>TWO ECKS KAY OH
>>545041559
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>caitlyn comes out
>she does the boobpress with ahri
ten billion dollars made
you're welcome riot
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i'm having a hard time figuring out how well the crime city skins sold because those champs aren't on the teams i run into lol
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every single game I had in grand master today was against an ekko or yasuo player
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deadge
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>>545689131
>kill ekko or yasuo
>they literally cannot play their other champ for shit
if the patch does actual damage to the top tiers then things are going to be kind of funny in a week or so
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anons asking for more cute girl characters
anons asking for more hot girl characters
solution is obvious
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>>545689348
she looks pretty funny
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>>545689318
thats the only redemption to the situation, so many of these losers literally only know how to play ekko or yasuo that they don't actually work on how to play the actual fighting game so once they're dead its ggs for them. But when you run into someone that is semi-competent its a fucking nightmare
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>>545688987
i saw a crime city jinx
im tempted to buy because of the dress but also I want the pool party one we know is coming
kinda tough
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>>545689743
it really is frustrating. especially if they have a dogshit teemo on their team that they just put on point, let build 3 bars, and then you kill him and now you're dealing with fury yasuo/ekko with 3 teemo super assists loaded up
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All Jinx skins right now are ass.
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dozens of characters
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why she look like that
>>545690210
honestly her base is kind of the best one
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>>545688771
If only
I forgot old officer caitlyn used to wear a skirt, why did riot take this away
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>>545691052
is lk even playing this game still
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>>545690541
Meme skin, not even attempting to make her look pretty
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>>545690210
Riot has only ever made one good Jinx skin.
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>>545690048
Wish I could buy jinx without the ww
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>>545691202
he doesnt like tag fighters and will only play them if they are arcsys games
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>A top 50 player in Xrd
>A top 50 player in Strive
>Put all your eggs in the esports basket
How long til he offs himself?
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Can 2xko become the LoL of fighting games? Or will it always be held back by being a fighting game
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>>545694496
Street fighter has the legacy and the fact that it's the easiest to pick up fighting game. It will always win. We are slaves to SF
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street fighter is not the easiest to pick up fighting game,
but it is just THE fighting game franchise
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lee sin or akali would be sooo fucking cool in 2x. need these two immediately
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>>545701882
shut up dude
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>>545694496
LoL only got to be as big as it did through being in the right place at the right time, when dota was still a slop mod for wc3.
League was the first moba to be a real thing so it's the biggest moba.
SF is the biggest fighting game because it was the first fighting game, Tekken is the biggest 3d fighting game because it was the first 3d fighting game

Games are not raised up by their merit, or their mechanics, or their advertising
Games are populated by being first and being novel
The only exception is fortnite because pubg fumbled so crazy hard.

Tuko will easily be the biggest tag fighter though, it being out before Toukon is actually a massive lead and dbfz and mvc are dead in the water. It's also relatively novel. Toukon being so similar to strive and jive will only hurt it
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>>545701882
Akali yes
Lee they gotta really sell him to me
If he has crazy dragonkick combos where he's kicking you stupid far into the air and his Q dash chases you all the way up like a superdash that would be sick
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>>545694496
it already is the lol of fighting games
maybe even the lmao of fighting games
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>>545704465
kekked that is a good one anony
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>>545703156
I was already aware that you're delusional but holy shit that last line
I fear you will actually off yourself when they announce EoS in 2 years
that is some ''dozens of characters'' or ''they'll release arcane season 3'' level of delusion
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>>545704702
>if they made street fighter (le unpopular game) more like minecraft (le super popular game) then it would be more popular
true or false?
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>>545706091
Bruh
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>>545706091
which one of you wrote this
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Any news about future characters?
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>>545706659
100% confirmed leaks (voicelines from characters directly addressed to them)
>caitlyn
>riven (darius says "traitor" so it isnt 100% but there's nobody else)
Possible leaks (voicelines in the game but they're reused league ones so they might just be leftover data)
>olaf
>kat
>thresh
>ryze
>cassiopeia
Possible Textbox leak (idk how this works but there was like a 3 letter Z character or something in the character files and they successfully predicted every character except for warwick)
>Zed
>Zoe
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>>545706914
olaf and ryze would be so lame
the resty are fine
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>>545706914
i think darius would have a much more furious voiceline about riven desu. he sounds like, "uhhh aren't you a traitor?" than you would expect for him to be against her. im betting that'll just be his line for zed on his team. he just sounds kind of confused rather than intense

i am coping of course i just hate that vomit inducing cunt and i hope we dont get her
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>>545707550
Riven is cool
the bastard sword character is a must in any game
and a real install character will be neato
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>>545707164
oh the Z character could also be Zac
But yeah I wouldnt put much stock into the voiceline stuff
It's all just league damaged sounds mostly and Kat has already been deconfirmed by a dev
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Kat concepts
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there's some really tuko fanart
this almost looks real
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Which team is /ourteam/ in the sajam slam
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>take a few days break from 2x
>better at hitting combos then when I left
tf
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I just got timed out by a Yasuo player
LMAO
Jinx owns this pussy ass bitch
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>>545714130
Idk I've been watching most every team randomly just to see what their team chats are like
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>friday night
>hell yeah time for tuko
>ahri/ekko/yasuo nonstop
>somehow not a single teemo to drive me to wanting to fucking an hero
i fucking hate this game
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lmao
I griefed so hard but I still won
Did everything wrong and choked the happy birthday but damn do level 3s do damage
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>>545709205
unfortunately the hatred i feel for that bitch will never disappear after having spent ages being oppressed by her in top lane when she was new and disgustingly fucking busted
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https://www.twitch.tv/patstaresat/clip/EnergeticRichRadishDatSheffy-izNflDLHdUWFyMY5
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>>545715748
come duo casuals with me
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It's fucking hilarious how Katarina fans got fucked over. Devs are making jokes about she was left to rot.
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>>545717543
i STRONGLY doubt that she's been thrown out forever
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>>545714130
Not watching that garbage
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>>545717543
they do constantly keep saying they want to add her in the future
I feel like the concept art vid was pretty good too
But I dont play Kat so
If it were my most wanted i probably would be seething
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>>545706914
Missing are non playable appearances
>kennen
>aatrox
>kench
>gangplank
And unused art assets
>miss fortune
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>>545709794

>Kat has stand in voice lines
>Confirmed to have been worked on

It's safe to assume characters with stand in voice lines got worked on. It doesn't confirm anything, but they have a bigger chance.
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>>545717779
Got a breakdown of the assets and appearances?
The only one I know is Kennen
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>>545717578
They keep saying that if they were to make her it would have to be from scratch since her being unsalvageable to fit in the tag environment is why she got cut.
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>>545717903
aatrox kench and gangplank are wanted posters in the tavern map
miss fortune shows up in the concept art in a dev video for the map.
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>>545718268
neat, that is cool
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yas ekko player btw
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>>545716932
also wow I built a criminal amount of meter for the fact I dropped my combo almost instantly and needed to panic
Actually won the game off of that half a bar
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>>545718453
all of these people are such absolute fucking faggots it's inexcusable
i legit cannot even begin to formulate a reply to this
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>>545718453
I hope I never have to see a day where Warwick dive full screen is top tier
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>>545718453
People cried about Potemkin in strive, and Zangief in sf when they were good but they never won tournaments, except for zangief one time.

It's all smoke and mirrors grapplers aren't good.
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>>545718453
ok i've formulated my thoughts
>wahhh wahhh you guys wouldn't be able to handle a meta where the slower characters with fewer options are actually good trust me
>it's actually much more fun for everyone if i'm allowed to mix you starting from full screen and 2x assist call
>there has to be absolutely no reason to pick the characters i don't like, they HAVE to be bad, because if they were good then i'd look worse at the game
>BAWWW POTEMKIN BAWWWWW (character never wins shit)
this FAGGOT mains johnny btw. i hate this faggot so much every single fg he's in is so fucking annoying to interact with
same exact faggot who downplayed the shit out of zato when he was top 1 in strive and winning literally every major, has tier whored nonstop and cannot win shit without playing a disgusting carry character that's head and shoulders above everyone else while everyone jerks off how "good" he is for it
FUCK this faggot
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anyway, am i smoking crack or did this guy just call his 2x assist while he was in blockstun on me
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>>545718453
Illaoi actually was top tier early on, when she had a chip out setup that did like 50% of your health, they shot that pretty quickly
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>see someone bitching in chat about someone else's playstyle
>yasuo/ekko player
every fucking time man lol
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>>545719698
t. crack smoker
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>win with mega scrubby move
>utterly random level 3 super
>throwing jinx beam into a blockstring for no reason and vi supering as they run up to punish her
>mashing on wakeup for the 5th time
>"ah man I should really stop doing that it's so low elo and it'll stop working soon"
>dont stop doing it
>it keeps working
my habits are going to be so bad I gotta get out of lomastah fast
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Can I get Gragas so I can play fake Bo Rai Cho?
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>>545719698
if he has even 1 frame out of blockstun he can hit assist so you probably just didnt link your string that tight
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>>545721465
gragas would be sick
game needs a fat boy, too
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>>545717124
wtf
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Is it a bug when during the match intro your character just doesn't say anything while it goes through the anims, or is it just unfinished partner dialogue
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>>545725156
just a bug. happens if the opponent skips intro at a certain time
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gn bwos
big doubleus today
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>>545722369
you have 4 fat fucks already
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>>545728593
we have 0 wtf
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>>545690210
The sexiest chroma in the game is on this jinx skin
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>>545728857
being fat isnt just about body type
its about how obese you want to play the game
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>>545729062
what
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>>545714130
i like eskay
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>get invited by a random to play duos
>he picks teemo
>i literally just sit there watching him shoot rocks and place mushrooms for 99% of the time
>so not locked in that whenever i do play i just fuck up a lot and die
man i was so excited...
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good night tuko
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someone explain the tuko meme to me
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it's just a faster way to pronounce the god awful name, 2xko

two x kay oh
two kay oh
two koh
tuko
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>>545744171
it's a spaghetti kino meme from "The Good, the Breaking Bad and the Ugly" western movie by sergio leone

>the good, the man with no name, heroic bounty hunter portrayed by clint eastwood
strive, the good game with a bounty hunter as a protag
>the bad, angel eyes, sadistic villain who takes pleasure in killing people
dix, bad game from a bad series that kill other fighting games
>the ugly, tuco salamanca pacifico, the buffoon no one takes seriously
2XKO
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https://x.com/mosuyanagi/status/1986571591111627102?t=HbM07VHZ-8xi8IGrulSR_w&s=33

The 2xkiller...
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So Xin Zhao's canonically dead huh
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>>545755737
I kneel, fat man
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the yasuo/ekko/ahri trauma i'm having is gonna be generational
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So what's going to be the main complaint about ahri once she becomes top tier, the goto for yas ekko is that they have everything
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>>545763414
ahri also has everything
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>>545755737
kino
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>jinx was originally going to have braids
man fuck
release a different version plz
>>545757019
Yeah
So is Ambessa
Demacia season they kill off lux you heard it here first
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>>545763414
sis you think ahri doesnt have everything?
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im letting go of this game
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Shame we didn't get the spinning braid taunt
Bubble gum better show up as a bp taunt later
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I for one welcome the new ahri overlords
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>no gweb
Shitty game
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>>545769634
Jinx looks like she wants to kill herself in the in game pics
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>>545775940
and I hope it stays that way
don't want to see my doll wife sullied by this game
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ahhhh
it really never gets old
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m o n k e y crossup
never seen before
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>>545776205
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>>545775093
marry spiritblossom
fuck the shit out of popstars fat tits
the other two are ugly skip
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>>545709794
>oh the Z character could also be Zac
No way they're doing Zac before Zed
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nigga they're putting corki before zed at this point
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I'm noticing a pattern
Most lomasters have no idea how to approach a zoner and they always play like they expect me to start running in
I've got like a 100% winrate on the first round of the set, every time they take three to four bad upbacks and I get to own them for it
But they eventually start adapting and getting in on me when I set monkey and then I get blown up. I'm kinda slow to adapt back even though it happens every time, I feel I play best only in the last two rounds of the set.

So I'm constantly just giving the middle game over even if I generally win both the first and last ones I gotta clean up me act
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>>545768323
she still has braids, no?
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>>545786618
Monkey is pretty high investment, the faster characters can run in and punish for pulling it out and trying to set it up with charge
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>>545788324
I almost never charge the monkey
It's absolutely bait to hit it with the medium that adds like an extra 30 frames of recovery for not that much reward, normal monkey pops them all the way up for a combo anyways and speeding it up is a detriment to zoning imo

But yeah I just need to be more sure before I rip it If I can cover myself with an assist setting monkey is always worth
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>>545775093
they literally all look inhuman. who likes this shit?
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>>545787641
for the arcane skin
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Imagine paying $100 for a skin in a game with 9 characters
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>>545794405
acktually it was 50 dollars for two skins and 50 dollars of currency
So 25 dollars each thats p good
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We're officially worse than release Grubble Rising tier
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Slam finals is on
Who you got, my boy Adrian is going to clear
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>>545797731
>your champ doesn't need buffs bro stop complaining tiers don't exist bro
Well well well.
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>>545799229
The spread is perfectly fine apart from Ekko and Yasuo though you fucking whiny bitch
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>>545799740
>teemo and ahri are 3x more popular than braum and blitz
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>>545799939
Yes? Braum is legit played by nobody while Ahri and Teemo are very common, do you even play the game
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>>545799939
Big bodies are never popular even if they're broken
In MvC3 hulk sentinel hagger was a solid team but people still didnt play it because it's gross being that ridden with fat
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>>545799939
Grappler and armorfags need to know their place
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>>545798030
im all in on Panunu's braum that guy is nasty
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>>545797731
i'm pretty interested in seeing how this looks once the top tiers get """"""""""nerfed""""""""" in 2 weeks
my money's definitely on "exactly the same because riot literally announced that they're afraid to nerf the top tiers so nothing's really gonna change" but we'll see i guess
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>>545799939
makes sense, Ahri is literally the most well known LoL character and really the only known character to nonleague players and she's hot, Teemo is a meme also annoyingly strong
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>>545802406
desu even nerfed I doubt ekko and yas are going to lose many players
People who play those characters are not going to pick up Vi or Illaoi even if the winrates push them to doing so
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>>545803597
right, but those aren't just general pickrates, they're pickrates for those champs in challenger. so i'm curious if the people who stick with those champs will drop out of top rank at all
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>>545803974
yeah but pickrates for champs in challenger is more correlated to playerbase than anything else
it's only winrates and tourney results that really show character strength
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Really what's the alternative for yas and ekko players
I could see ekko fags that go play ahri instead, but swordfags have always been dedicated
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>>545797731
Yeah I think it's mostly just a roster size problem
4 big bodies and only 1 real edgelord and only 1 real coombait means most of the audience is funneled into the same character regardless of strength.
Riven and Zed really needed to be base roster
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>wonder what's happening over in Granpoo land.
>2D vtuber commentators
Yea you faggots need to be quarantined.
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people will play what's strong. there's no fighting game where the most popular characters are bad. especially with modern fighters where you can learn a character in a week or so vs old ones where if you wanted to change mains you were looking at several months of grinding just to get started again.
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>>545806697
vtubers are fun tho
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Doko
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>>545797731
That has been the case for a while now
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/544022154/#544126008
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>>545807536
Kill yourself
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>>545807404
the devs make the popular characters good so they dont lose a giant chunk of their audience
When the best character is a grappler people just quit the game en masse because they dont want to learn how to play a grappler
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>>545808289
when has there ever been a game where the grappa was the best? don't say strive lol (and even then, when that was the sentiment, pot did indeed become very popular online)
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>>545808741
there hasnt ever been because people quit the game en masse yes
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>>545808865
my b i thought we were having a conversation for real
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>>545809165
>im a hardcore grappler player ill never stop playing grapplers even when they're ass
>oh but everybody else is just a metafag who only plays the rushdown character because they're brokeeeen they're not loyal like i am
>the ONLY reason why 90% of the playerbase hates grapplers and never plays a grappler in any game ever made ever is because they're just so metafaggy and care so much about winning unlike me im a special snowflake grapplerfag
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>>545810126
i don't think i said or implied any of that. i'm not a grabbler player either lol. all i asked for was "when has a grappler ever been the best character in a game."
also, character loyalty is ABSOLUTELY a thing of the past. if you paid attention to sf6 or strive you'd see that for sure.
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lol what a bitch
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>>545811985
lol ;_;
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>>545811985
rip
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>>545811985
lmao, she got mad
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>>545811985
They went up against adrian it's not their fault
I watched that guy solo 1v2 noon and their team
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Cutekino
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>>545811985
It was stanz's fault
that guy didn't do any practice and he tried to play ekko when he was not built for that life
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bad night of tuko
think i'm gonna call it early
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>ww level 3 just went through my burst and killed my tag
yeah no fuck this i'm outta here dude
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>complaining about midtier ww
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>void starts picking ekko instead of vi on the final day
>wins every game despite being the bot fragging 8th seed for every other day
wow interesting
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>>545817314
it's ok bro riot needs more time to see what the problematic chars are
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arent gsm and dabuz pro smash players? why are they so bad
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>>545818106
>pro smash players
>why are they so bad?
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>>545817314
please... we are so scared to nerf him... we don't want to overreact... -1 dmg on 5l soon...
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>void does 7 overheads in a row to hit SQ one time
lmao
okay this guy's sick
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>>545818836
that was pretty funny
bogur is like the only guy i know outside of the fgc in this tourney and he's out, gonna stop watching it
don't know why they keep inviting all these random 50 viewer vtubers instead of "known" gaming streamers
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Trust me you don't want to see illaoi be top tier, i forgot that this shit used to be everywhere before they nerfed her
Also adrian and tene's team is for sure winning this tourney, no doubt in my mind
https://www.twitch.tv/jonathantene/clip/DoubtfulExquisiteHornetKevinTurtle-QznVcGSQkY3NgWQb
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>>545819526
i dont think a single character in this game would be fun as a top tier
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>>545819526
brother shut the fuck up i don't care
no character is going to be fun to fight when there's a massive power gulf between them and everyone else. if it's got to be someone it's fine if it's the character with 2 or 3 strong tools as opposed to the faggots that literally have every tool in the game + unique ones that nobody else has
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>briefly tap into boxjam slam because bored after watching The VVitch
>commentators hyping up utterly basic shit because it's streamers playing
>pretending adrian riven isn't a top 15 player contender
>iron-tier gameplay when non-pros are on
Idk why this is enjoyable to anyone who actually is decent at this game.
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>>545820406
Don't worry little timmy, I'm sure it looked intimidating but everyone there is at least plat by now, so you won't have to run into this if you ever decide to play a match
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>>545820406
the first rounds are boring but everything after that is pretty good
Mixing diamonds in with plats and challys does end up pretty funny i think
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>>545825038
we were literally talking about how cute teemo is like 20 posts ago
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add yunaras fat ass
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fumi's teemo aint bad
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800 word post about how cute and lovely he is
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how the FUCK do you do the raw tag vi super to follow up fireworks
twitter combos are bullshit
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>>545827542
riot niggas starving so hard for any crumb of lewd they'll say shit like this
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>>545831574
kek
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>>545811985
lilypichu will never touch this game ever again
she never liked it in the first place
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strive players confirmed to be the most skilled. Best coaches, best players
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>got one and doned by the only other vi jinx player in the server
wtf man
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>>545833424
he RAN
whether you won or lost game 1 he knew his ass was cooked
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>>545832916
Lol. Lmao, even.
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And then I got absolutely railed by a gay couple on Braum and Darius both using matching crime city skins holy fuck the power of their gay love was completely unbeatable I was smote
>>545833518
I lost but yeah it was close
Guy didnt even emote so he was probably seething out his mind
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>>545834832
>literally top two teams
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lol at steve trying to avoid saying b*rst,
and sajam just says it
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>>545834946
how do you feel playing into braum generally? does he feel tough for your team?
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>delay 2L into full combo into oki
yeah right this shit is primo retardo
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>>545835276
I do good into bad braums
A good Braum is terrifying though might be my 2nd worst matchup after Ahri
Unbreakable Braum is a 9:1 matchup against Vi she can do literally nothing when he has it

It's a pretty normal zoner grapple matchup all in all. he turbo rapes you when he gets in but if you play correctly he never gets in but if he's good he gets in
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>>545835893
>Unbreakable Braum is a 9:1 matchup against Vi she can do literally nothing when he has it
kek that's literally exactly how i feel fighting him with both darius and blitz
shit is a nightmare
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master Ekko players are completely deranged
>oh the jinx has a monkey
>oh shes shooting me with fullscreen rockets
>whats the play here
>I know!
>neutral jump timewinders like a boss
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>>545703156
Wolfstein...
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K this is actually just funny
he's legit throwing timewinders into blockstrings and giving up pressure to get timewinders out
He could've done mix but instead he was like nah im gonna upback timewinder rewind
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>>545839614
he throws 7 timewinders in 14 seconds
1 timewinder actually hits
4 of the timewinders whiff completely
1 timewinder gets blocked
1 hits the assist
Clearly optimal gameplay
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okay, learned from the sajam slam how to get firebush oki
>5H bush, 5LLLH2H shroom
the dart spam kills enough time for the bush to become active
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>>545839614
holy shit
i mean that definitely works on enough ppl that he made it to where he is lol

>>545843423
nice
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https://x.com/NYChrisG/status/1986333059810238935
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>>545844352
>chris g crying about shit, part 322
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>>545844352
this dudes ego is out of fucking control, he plays ahri teemo and acts like he's playing the most terrible bottom tier garbage ever made
all these fucking fgc personalities crying about the meta need to be forced to play without top tiers for a week i swear if i see one more brainless take im gonna kermit. they all complain about random shit and you look at their team and wonder what they could even be bitching about
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>>545835893
One of the coach's advice against braum in the corner is not to challenge his buttons ever and try to jump out of the corner
Also can parry his H string and some of his moves
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>>545845205
If you're looking for a parry thats always when he goes and grabs your ass
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daily reminder that dead yasuo is stronger than the lower half of the cast
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>2xko worlds
>opening ceremony is ekko busting a nut in front of the audience
sovl or sovlless idea?
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>>545850010
It's a 2v2 game so it would have to be ekko busting a nut with someone else in a dual orgasm. Either ahri to have consistent marketing or yasuo to reflect the meta.
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>>545850010
replace ekko with practically anyone else and sure
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>>545850010
i don't know man, i don't think a nig would resonate with the asian market
what about a close up shot of jinx's ass being pumped by a fuck machine of her creation? I think that will be received better
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>>545855746
>asian market
league's so chinaslop nowadays that i forget it's not even originally from over there
did they even like arcane in japan/korea/china? ik they censored the lesbian sex scene lol
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no lobbies...
no duos...
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>>545860745
no patch notes
no items
annihilator's reach only
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good night tuko
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is there a memory leak issue with the game? I keep getting random stuttering in training mode and online games, I've checked my PC and everything seems normal its just when I boot up 2xko
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>>545870517
yep unfortunately
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>random chinaman is rank 40 in challenger with sidekick on his first fighting game ever
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>>545885308
>yasuo teemo
why even bother posting it
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>>545837975
masters players are not good
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>>545889670
I thought it was funny he hates motion inputs but he managed to get into this game as a newfag somehow
Also playing sidekick makes up for running yas
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>>545890246
>sidekick
>has teemo
are you retarded or a zoner player
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>>545870517
Yes it's pretty bad, my game crashes 24/7
I've had a support ticket open for weeks and they don't know what to do about it, it truly is an early access game
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>>545890618
nobody plays sidekick teemo in tourney so it’s midtier and honest even if you seethe about it
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>>545885308
>barely even knows Yasuo combos and doing basic pulse tier combos
>on sidekick with less health and no active tagging to recover health or get hits easier
Nice
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Riots going to nerf like only his super giving combo extensions and you're still going to see teemo everywhere chucking shrooms and rocks btw
Zoning won
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>>545900989
He’s going to lose supertag, the 0 on block spindash and his instant overhead will be slower is my guess
I doubt his zoning will get touched so ChrisG is going to win
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https://x.com/TheNitten/status/1987537667345571918
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>>545902867
teemo badges are placebo anyways
nobody has won or lost off an early badge timing
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>>545905979
lmao no. mushroom badge is fucking disgusting
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>>545885308
that server may be a bit easier to rank up in, since the game is way less popular over there afaik
that having been said lol nice
while it's tempting to discredit him for doing it with yasuo teemo sidekick, that's still pretty amazing
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>duo partner pushblocks right when you go for parry
>get 2xko'd
lol
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>>545914810
kekk
makes for a kino clip at least
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>>545918884
that's the kind of thing both players just burst out laughing in the call over lol
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>>545910431
placebo
>get hit with a combo that does 50%
>get hit by a mushroom that does 2% more damage
>nooo i le turned purple i must be le losinggg
>runs in
>gets hit by a combo that does 60% hp
>omg i lost cuz he got mushroom badge
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>>545923173
it's the damage that you take from blocking them + the boosted damage on the super
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>>545914810
>Play duos
>Get surprised when duo does something retarded
Just play solos like fighting games were intended to be, stop wasting your time with the gimmick mode.
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>>545925390
oh i'm the darius in that clip lol
i realize that the post was poorly written now
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>Can't play duos without sperging out over a mistake and calling it a gimmick mode
Do people really?
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>>545930268
even if duos were just a dumb gimmick (honestly i think splitting mental stack between two players + being able to talk to someone and figure out strats is pretty good) it's still far and away the most fun you can have with this (or any modern fighting) game
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cuties
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>>545930919
this game is spawning ships never before thought possible
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theres a whole ass offline tourney on a sunday and it doesn't even have 800 viewers
jesus
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>>545930919
I was thinking of playing this team just because I thought tomboy vi + pink ahri looked good together
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>>545932119
there's tournaments every day and nobody wants to watch the same 4 top tiers mindlessly do the same shit over and over
that's the only reason sajam slam was any fun to watch, you at least saw some slight variety
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Post your dream team
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>>545933797
you already know
the day they add garen i become the most annoying person in the entire universe
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>>545933705
offline tournies are more prestigious than online ones
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>>545935970
still gonna be the same 4 top tiers doing the same shit over and over, though
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>open tournament stream for 1 second
>darius takes literally 1/4 of his health blocking poison shrooms in the span of 2 seconds
mushroom badge is a placebo gaiz
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i actually do want to watch chris g ahri/teemo time out vs. francois ahri/ekko #zonerHOIIIP
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>start up super
>opponent goes to parry it
>handshake tag
>that couple extra frames of superfreeze from the tag fucks up the parry timing
>die
that was disgusting lol
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chrisg writing posts about how bad ahri is mid set as he hits five overheads in a row and crosses up for every other one
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>>545938417
it's weird to see how much fun he's having laughing and playing the set and comparing that to how whiny and bitchy his twitter posts are
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why do people think that jinx is ass?
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>>545940416
literally just because teemo exists and does the same thing she does but better+more+higher damage+safer
if he gets actual nerfs jinx'll see more play
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>>545940416
losing matchup into ahri and yas
less mix and damage than teemo
supertag nerfed
I think she's unironically still pretty good though
But fighting a good ahri does make you want to kill yourself
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>>545885308
>>545912827
na is a much harder server than other servers

the rp requirements are higher, because there are more people constantly grinding
and then the top100 is stronger than the other regions' top 100
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>>545930268
It is a gimmick mode. Name the number of fgs that have the same function
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Big ass stacked tournament out of nowhere when did this start
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i'm so proud of my duo for being able to swap on reaction to bursts now
too bad we got robbed by this buggy shit

please just copy ggxx, riot
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>>545943263
>if its based on another game its a shallow ripoff
>if its a new innovation its a party game gimmick
the rank 1 and 2 in asia are a duo btw
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>>545945520
nice cli-
>that teleport
lol fuck
that shit has happened to me a few times too, it's so rare but it's always so upsetting
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ngl when you see two good players scrambling on screen constantly moving between all their options, placing their assists and reacting correctly for tag ins, it is really good fg viewing. Its such a shame that the balance of the game is ass and that only really ever occurs between ekko and yasuo
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>>545947453
here's hoping that the patch fixes the game like a LOT a lot
i'm expecting basically nothing as the chars with all the tools will always have all the tools and thus always be top tier but it'd be cool if we saw more variety in the future
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holy shit that warwick player just perfectly timed his divekick to combo with Vi rock and picked up after it what the hell
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>>545948560
that shit was sick, shame he's fighting the biggest faggot in the game playing the faggiest team in the game
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I was in deksillsages stream earlier and he said teemo was very similar to peacock, is he right?
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>>545940416
Also I think a lot of low elo jinxes try to play her like a spam bot
Putting out lots of monkeys and rockets and backdashing the whole game
But a big part of jinx's strength is how good she is for active tag with minigun swaps and fullscreen charged rockets, as well as her big normals for checking people running at you
She necessitates taking more advantage of tag mechanics than most other characters do
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>>545950596
Peacock is way way worse. head and shoulders stronger than teemo
But also peacock never had active tag like teemo does
But also peacock has a DP lmao
also shadow of impending doom is one of the coolest specials in any game they should add it to 2x somehow. Idk maybe as a zoe ability
check this:
https://x.com/dekillsage/status/1377288078243598341?lang=el
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>>545950596
i haven't watched much skullgirls but i've literally never once seen her run up on people like teemo does
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>>545950956
THIS is real zoning
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>>545950979
He actually mentioned that teemo gets a combo off grab that peacock doesn't
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>>545950979
teemo has way better mix than peacock
grab combos and instant overheads
peacock kicks his dick in by any other metric though
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>>545951131
real marvel ass zoning
where’s my morrigan arthur zero teams
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>>545950956
skullgirls is so cool man
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>>545955785
shame it's 500x more tagkuso than 2xko
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>>545956102
that's whats cool about it doe
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>>545709794

People assume it's Zed because there's hp values in that list, and the Z character has low hp.
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>>545940416
She's bottom 3.
Vi neutral invalidates her
Yas windwall invalidates her
Illaoi normals invalidate her
Warwick run make it difficult

She maybe goes 55-45 to Teemo so now she's being overrated by shitters who don't play but watch streams.
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>>545950614
I tried playing sidekick jinx for a bit against the cpu and could barely win a single game, it wasn't until I played double down and tried some active tag setups that it clicked
She has ten years of recovery on all her moves so unless you play perfectly solo or use her moves to tag out, you're going to eat shit
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Why does Obama dislike this game it, has Xrd-level sauce?
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>boot up
>ahri illaoi 2x
>ahri darius 2x
>close game
wow i can't wait for the patch to go directly over her head and have to deal with her for another 2 months.
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>>545957116
all of this feels like cope except for yasuo, and that fag invalidates EVERYONE not just jinx
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>>545844819

Can you read? His complaint was that he can't make other teams work, and how people are forced to play the top tiers to find good synergy.
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>>545957116
Warwick run is super easy to deal with just call assist or press antiair
The thing that's aids about WW is him spamming demon flip and then rolling a d20 and randomly pressing super when you try to challenge it

Also Vi and Illaoi suck <- fact
>>545957313
Yea Jinx without active tag is not a real character
but with it she becomes really uniquely sick and fun
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>>545957631
other teams do have "good" synergy and do "work," it's just that there's literally no reason to play them because the top tiers are so juiced
that aside,
>The rule of thumb is "if chris g cannot make it work, the characters/game is bad"
is MAD egotistical
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>>545957995

That I can agree with.
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>>545957751
if you think illaoi loses to jinx you don't play. simple as.
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>>545958938
rank?
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yasuo murders jinx in front of her sister
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>>545958938
I've yet to play an illaoi that makes me think so
But I've played a lot of really good players of every character except for her even in like 300 games
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well top 8's started and it's all the boring top tiers left so i'm closing da stream
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>hops on to play some 2xko for a few minutes because watching the tournament got me in the mood
unfortunately, the worst ekko in the world is still an ekko
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>>545964392
>see someone's avatar has the $100 ekko sword
>cancel ranked match
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Leffen and supernoon gonna be the first duo to win a major tourney?
Worst timeline
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>>545964392
idk I think bad ekko players are really poundable
These guys will upback timewinder at every single opportunity you just gotta anticipate it coming
(or swap to jinx)
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tene ten parries a round versus chrisg doesnt even know what a parry is
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>>545965152
yeah it's a shame because jinx looks fun but there's just no world where i get past how much i dislike her design, personality, animations, and voice acting
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>>545966018
spanish dub jinx fixes two of those things
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>>545966095
cait will potentially be a good zoner buddy for darius. i was hoping for teemo but he turned out to be another lameass everything character. cait might be able to set up nets and traps for the big guy to keep the zoomers from getting in
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>>545965152
are you GM now?
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Yea my vote is
1. Noon/Faggot
2. Jonathan Tene
3. Chris G
4. Reditto
5. Zane
5.Fronc
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>>545966539
no I'm still barely masters
I just drop too many combos to get to GM rn
Need to clean it up
Also my Vi blockstrings are way too simple. I have an overhead that hits once a game and a grab I use twice a game and that's it. Almost all of my hits come from mixing up my zoning pattern and getting active tags through, but I think I am pretty hot at zoning it's usually successful. Got a good bag of tricks I can pull out on people running at me
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When you happy birthday the game shouldn't freeze the screen when you kill the main character that shit is retarded, let me finish my fucking combo.
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this is exactly what i am FUCKING talking about dude
these people literally have 1 braincell 0apm 90ms reaction speed and it
DOESN'T
FUCKING
MATTER
i can't believe i went 0-2 against this shitter dude i'm gonna kms
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>>545966462
I'm interested in seeing how they differentiate Cait from Jinx and Teemo
I'd have expected cait to be mostly about traps but Jinx and Teemo have so many already it'd be kind of redundant
I like the richochet bullet idea some anon had that'd be cool, but making her mostly about fullscreen unhittable rifle shots that can cover every option might end up a little op, who knows
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holy chrisGOAT
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>>545933797
There's a real lack of bot lane duos when it would be so easy to appeal to fans by adding them.
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>be chrisG
>use raw ahri supertag to get teemo in
>teemo sprint all the way across the screen corner to corner
>hit him with the triple darts
>oh fuck it didnt work
>jumps back and parachutes away
what a legend
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Will leffen/supernoon be the first duo win?
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>>545967545
lmao the fullscreen take a break? wtf
never seen that one before
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Your top 6 teams
Ekko Teemo
Ahri Teemo
Ahri Teemo
Yasuo Teemo
Ekko Yasuo
Illaoi Ekko
Wheres the anon who said teemo isnt top 4 btw
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>>545966462
>lameass everything character
Can you like not play characters that have mix or something?
I dunno why else you'd have an issue with a character having too many options
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>>545969124
looking like it
they beat everyone in losers rn already
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>>545969970
i just don't like playing characters that do literally everything and have every tool, especially when that clashes with what i personally expect from said character. i don't like that teemo is clearly designed to be a zoner with projectiles and traps, yet also has insane rushdown and mix. to me a fighting game character needs to stay true to their identity. that's why out of the characters i've paired darius with, blitz has been my favorite
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leffen looking like leffraud rn
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>>545943263
>>545925390
watch RISC 2025 grand finals really quick
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>>545975684
lol owned desu
tragically dogshit but did at least show us that ekko/teemo is more carried than anyone ever dreamed
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>gold trophy with yasuo on it
tacky ngl
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>>545976150
now they have to fight over who keeps it
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Does this prove that duos is the superior meta
In a year maybe top 8s will be all duo and the solos will be a rarity
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Did 2Winz have the right idea being the duo jp team that's high ranked there?
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>>545976681
i think this probably won't happen. it's still fairly early in the game's existence, so as balance changes and system mechanics get tweaked, duos may become less viable
it would be crazy fun to see duos becoming more popular though
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>whispers, hushed:
>yo man this guys a fucking beast
>im gonna need you to call my time my time and then im gonna tag to you
>its our only hope
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>>545977243
so boring to watch... idk why i spent all day watching this
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https://www.youtube.com/live/ZpSqPlHbi6A?si=rv4kfvgvNaERq6at
The tourney where the duo won btw
I found on a rewatch Yasuo's move somehow hits behind him kek
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>>545978520
>I found on a rewatch Yasuo's move somehow hits behind him kek
>somehow
it's because he's yasuo it wouldn't be fair if it didn't do that
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>>545978609
He needs it
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>>545978797
this is kind of a sick screenshot tho can't lie
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>see a teamfight tactics trailer
>garen and darius paired off with each other AGAIN
garius nation literally can not stop winning. at this point it legit feels like they have more content together than garen/kat. im winning
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just got a aram game on Zed where I was putting shadow clones down at my tower then shaco Qing forwards, slapping some guy on the ass for a 2k damage crit and then teleporting away frame 1 and shooting him with a shuriken to execute him

Made me think of how bonkers Zed can be add him already
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>>545984384
zed is one of those chars where i absolutely fucking hate him in league but i'm interested in playing him in tuko because he's gonna be absolutely fucked in this game
solo sandwich pressure shooting shurikens from both sides execute damage pop from his ult
ewwwwww (positive)
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>>545984510
I just hope you can put down two clones at a time
The powerlevel of even one clone mirroring your abilities and acting as a TP point is already stupid crazy strong obviously, but the identity of zed is in his triple shuriken and mixing up what shadow he's used or wants to go to.
The second shadow'll definitely need to be locked behind meter but just thinking about it it does sound like it could be too strong anyway, illaoi super tentacles will be nothing next to it.

If Zed ever gets a hard knockdown and sets his super shadow above you and his normal shadow behind you or something, what is that like 12 way mix that also makes every hitbox hit 3 times? Jesus
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>>545985437
one thing that's been on my mind lately is that the devs probably have at least a handful of characters finished (not a dozen like that one guy who got memed on, but at least a handful). and that might be skewing their perspective of how strong the publicly available characters are. what i'm saying is that they've got unreleased characters that are so fucked up that they felt ok releasing ekko, teemo, and yasuo in their current states and are watching us complain about them like "lol"
i say all this to say that i fully expect zed to be the next level up in power. zed oki with multiple shadows sounds really funny
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Zoe + asol concept
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>>545986702
wait that's actually sick
i don't like zoe at all but i'd play that
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>>545986790
sadly its just too cool to ever happen
one of those fanarts where that artist mogs anything riot has
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>>545987812
well sadly coming up with fun ideas and cool concepts is one thing, finding a way to make them work in-game is another right?
of course this kind of thing is possible but who knows
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good night tuko don't die in my sleep
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Bump.
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gonna heed another one, chief
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>>545986702
>we have kindred at home
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add her
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>>545885308
this is genuinely a slightly edited chatgpt script
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what do we do about inequality in the fgc
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So they havn't added a 1v1 game mode yet because they're afraid it will be more popular, right?
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>November 18th patch
>A small number of core system changes
air blockstun fix incoming?
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>>546022686
It's that or super tag
The more I play the more I think Vi S1 being so negative on airblock is intentional though
It does feel really ignorant anyway and the only thing you ever worry about when spamming it is them jumping. There's nothing else you need to think about
They still did go too far with it but it wouldn't surprise me if they change airblocking but still leave Vi out to dry
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Mandatory poll: Until you read this post, did you think that Vi's S1 super is frame 1 invincible?

1. Yes I'm retarded and don't know how to read a wiki or lab
2. No
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>>546024290
i read someone say that a few weeks ago
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>>546023867
The uncharged version is punishable on block and the semi-charged version that is normally +1 has 20f of charging, your opponent has a million options including parry, super, or stuffing it. If you're playing Vi and your opponents don't know how to deal with semi-charged 5S1 they would also get rolled by Yasuo 6S1 and if you're losing to it it's because you're extremely old or refusing to use the aforementioned options
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>>546024674
Charged S1 is insanely good actually.
You just active tag Vi out, start charging it and you can do so much with your point it's criminal. If you see them do anything you just let it rip, their only counterplay is them parrying it for no reward, when you can mess up the timing with your point, or jumping it. If they hit her you get a hit with your new point.
If it locked you into ten years of airblockstun as a tagged out hitbox? holy fuck it would be stupid.

Obviously you never ever use charge S1 solo though. You just spam use dash-tap S1 to check them doing anything on a good 60% of the screen and when you spaced it right it's safe and if you used an assist you're in or you combo off it even if they jumped. So there's really not a huge issue with airblocking unless you're trying to run jugger Vi
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>>546025936
Okay but is there a single character in the entire game that doesn't have something completely busted when you account for handshake tag? If yes then please take my hyperbole down a notch and consider that question "isn't this true for most characters"?
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>>546020428
It's a tag game homie, a 1v1 mode has to be the furthest from their mind.

There's already 2 fuses accommodating people who somehow can't learn 2 characters in the simplest fighting game ever made.

It's like asking why they haven't added a Tetris mode yet. Play a different game
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>>546025936
also I missed this but
>ten years
bro all I'm asking for is like +1-3 blockstun from whatever the grounded blockstun would be, so Vi should be +2-4 if she makes you block semi-charged 5S1 while you're airborne instead of punishable -7 or worse
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>>546020428
Little shitter Timmy, someone got challenger playing sidekick already, what's the issue?
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But what happens if you try to charge vi lariat a braum airborne and just hit their shield instead
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>>546026327
Well obviously yeah
But Vi charge S1 is by far the most powerful thing you can do after active tag in the game, without meter.
It goes 90% of the screen, you have complete agency over when you shoot her, you can hold her for almost a second and a half which is forever, it locks them into blockstun for like another second and a half if it's blocked, and it fully crumples them if it hits them.
Again, their literal only counterplay is sitting fullscreen for 2 seconds, trying for a parry or jumping it. Or like using Braum shockwave I guess. If you remove jumping as an option this thing would be INSANE and im a vi player
>>546026589
im talking about charged S1, it's plus 11 by itself and if you hit it as an inactive, essentially as a projectile hitbox it's like plus 50 or something insane. I think semi charged S1 is plus 30ish? idk for sure.
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>>546027068
so why not fix handshake tag advantage instead of making semi-charged/charged 5S1 an unusable anti-air for Vi as a point character, this is a nonsense justification because everyone gets insane advantage and has really good options out of handshake tag.

Anyway the most important detail is that they need to make air blockstun work in a universal fashion because having two unique sets of block frame data to memorize is batshit insane. If they made a specific exception to Vi's 5S1 for air blockstun but made literally every other move behave in some consistent manner then I would get the fuck over it and just not play Vi, but as it stands today I still can't bring myself to play the game because
>lol we'll balance every individual move to have different airblock frame advantage
is the worst take on frame advantage in any fighting game ever
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>>546027839
I mean is it not an inconsistency either way they do it?
Either they make new sets of frame data for both point and inactive characters or they make new sets of frame data for standing and jumping characters.
They definitely cant just make it plus 50 on airblock when you can hold it and threaten it forever.

Also I'm not saying this is the best solution, I agree it feels mega bad hitting a charged S1 and getting punished.
but like, using a solo charged S1 is dogshit anyways, there's literally no reason to ever use it they have so much counterplay. Why does it matter if it's a little bit worse when it's already ass.

Try playing Jinx Vi or Teemo Vi and using the S1 tagout shit, it does feel mega ignorant to do to people anyway lol
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>>546028479
I wasn't suggesting they fix handshake tag advantage by fucking with frame data further but rather re-evaluating that entire system mechanic and finding ways to make it less oppressive. That's assuming that the reason why Vi's semi-charged/charged 5S1 is currently punishable on air block which I highly doubt was what was on Apologyman or whoever came up with this dumbass airblocking system's mind
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>>546028770
Bro you gotta try actually playing with her S1 using active tag
It's really fucking fun even when you know they can just airblock it
They better never touch handshake
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>>546029178
no I am not booting up a game that rewards airblockers with better frame advantage than ground blocking on half the cast's moves, yes I am mad as fuck that I still can't play the game due to my autism and check in to this thread to whine every week or so
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>>546029546
Ok fair
I just think it would change your perspective a little
I agreed with you back then but with a few hundred games of making people hold the vi punch I now have empathy for my fellow man even if it's like the second most fun thing to do to people in any fighting game
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>>546029914
this feels like a skill issue on your opponent's part because I'm scrubbing through TNS' 2XKO tourneys with Vi in top 8 and this isn't as big of a threat as you're making it out to be especially against Yasuo/Ahri/Teemo who all have air options to ignore/outplay it
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>>546030468
no, I agree obviously its not that strong
They can just jump it as ive said and you know.
What im saying is if they couldn't jump it then it would start being retarded
Also nobody plays Vi jinx, and Jinx can cover and condition jumps with skybones shots so I get people to hold the punch more often than these Vi WW players and such
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>>546030749
>they can just jump it
all they have to do is reduce the number of frames that Vi herself takes to become actionable from the moment it is blocked and that makes it so that
1. the move is no longer -7 if you block a solo point Vi's semi-charged/charged 5S1
2. the frame advantage is exactly the same when she tagged out to someone else and she is now an assist making the opponent block semi-charged/charged 5S1
I don't understand the objection to this
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>>546031028
I meant to say airblock in both of the numbered lines
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>>546031028
Is the main issue not airblock stun going away on landing
I imagine making her actionable sooner in that specific scenario would work yeah. but does that not still makes things weird and exceptional if it's different on airblock than both block and hit?
>I don't understand the objection to this
I don't really mind the solution but also I feel like my other point of charged solo S1 being dogshit anyway still stands.
You could do this to it and it would still be an option that 0 high level Vi players would ever go for in neutral anyways. but if it calms your autism sure lets petition riot for it
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>>546032583
The argument that
>the move is dogshit so it might as well have terrible frame data only when the opponent airblocks it
does not work for me and I cannot fathom why it works for you which is why I ignored it earlier
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>>546032893
It's a pretty simple chain of logic.
The move is dogshit in one situation and pretty good in another.
It being countered by airblock makes it so when she's throwing it at fullscreen, as juggernaut with no assists, in neutral, it becomes worse yes?
But it also has the benefit of making tagged out S1 charge a little less ignorant

So there's a benefit to it, and the issue it makes is negligible so I don't really care.
The move still has a usecase regardless. I will full charge a Vi punch in every single round I play and I feel it is pretty fair when I use it with counterplay for them and strength for me.
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I've learned that Ekko can be an actual zoner that is good temporarily apart from mindlessly upback shitting out time winder, if you time rewind super and then start chucking winder, you can cancel all the recovery with rewind super and instantly throw out another ball or bait 2h
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>>546033960
>did you know timewinder is fucking retarded and ekko has every tool in the game
yes we know thank you einstein
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>anons still think frame data are what matters in a game with 2second cd assists
The only stats in this game that truly matter are startup, damage and mix there is nothing else
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Put Zed out
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>>546033960
that sounds pretty cool actually
I'm a fan of zoning installs
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>>546024290
mandatory response: do you think it being non frame 1 invuln matters at all outside of oki situations?
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>>546024290
no
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>>546035638
you could've just typed the number 1 instead of reiterating how stupid you are
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>>546036418
you literally don't play the fuckin game and you think you get to talk about how it works? lmao
you're dogshit enough at the game that you look at something as retardedly busted as vi 5s1 and go "yeah this is a bad move because i got counterplayed" when it's literally safe on block. you probably saw the uncharged version is -7 and went "THAT'S SO UNSAFE WTF BAD MOVE" not even knowing how frame data and abare work in this fucking game. fuck off dude
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hey gookbro i got a new image for you hyg
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Do you want to get to challenger? Better get a good ass friend boyo
Playing solo will soon be as big of a disadvantage as picking blitzcrank
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>>546037505
nah, it won't be
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>>546037505
Solo bros... Were we the gimmick all along?
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>>546038297
kek'd
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>>546013348
>>545986702
plz
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>>546036825
wrong person schizo
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>>546042290
don't give a fuck. vi's super 1 not being "le heckin' frame 1 invuln" literally does not matter in this game due to how frame data works in it
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>>546042682
retarded take with no explanation
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>>546043394
my explanation is that anyone who actually plays the game at a human level understands that vi sa1 is fine how it is
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>>546043638
nobody said otherwise
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>>546035638
>>546036825
>>546042682
>has a meltie over imagined complaints
pottery
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>>546043727
>>546044029
if you bring that shit up to begin with it's obviously to bitch about it lol don't try to wipe that shit off on me
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>>546044715
I brought it up because I watched a Twitch chat argue about it for 15 minutes and realized lots of people think it's a frame 1 reversal. If it were it would be the best super in the game. You're mad because you wanted to get mad.
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need goonbait bad
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>>546045293
>You're mad because you wanted to get mad.
you're RIGHT
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>>545967720

Teemo=Rocket Raccoon
Jinx=Hawkeye
Cait=Chris
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JESUS CHRIST IM LOW ELO
ten billion dropped confirms
ten million unpunished whiffs

at least I got my Jinx mastery taunt now yay
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>>546034637
>Anon likes his plastic infused with plastic
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>>546037505
I literally could not care less, and duos has existed since launch and almost no one cares sorry.
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>>546050946
The meta will develop anony
anons already cry about being 5% winrate lower than the top tier characters
how will you feel when the chad duos are twerking all over the solos down the line and making solochuds impotent
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>>546049634
Jinx is almost nothing like hawkeye except for Zap being kinda like the net arrow. she's the chris-like, her minigun is sorta like his flamethrower, and they both have the crazy endlag thing and the mostly rigid projectile angles
I do see Cait being the hawkeye-like with a wider variety of shots she can fire, burst shots of 3 in a row and bullet rains after she richochets a shot off the ceiling, she'll have the net bullet too and maybe some trick bullets, and her fullscreen punish move can be more threatening than Jinx's
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Yasuo assist is so potent it gives a free left/right for any fuse, and you believe yas downplayers are still among us?
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>>546051063
mashing is correct here no
if she presses something the chip just kills regardless
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Being at 5% health and at 45% health (assuming burst-less) is the exact same percentage.
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>>546056250
chip exists bro
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i used to play doubledown for this,
but it only makes sense that it'd work with her last stand version as well

+ this likely works with every fuse, and it is often that ahri dies first
- the devs already tweeted about wanting something done about the mist finer loops, so it's likely getting patched out nov18; sad times
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doubt i add this to my repertoire, but it's cute
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teemo is dead
no more corner carry no more block strings no more insane confirms
this one thing will gun him down
also they said the instant overhead was unintentional too somehow
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>>546060894
that sucks, ngl
there already were downsides to doing wee loops instead of shroom loops
+ it's easier
- it doesn't build shroom badges
- its ender (afaik) doesn't end in ground wee, so he can't wallslump into shroom super
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>>546061704
yeah I do think they were really cool to watch ngl more cool than shroom loops
But the fact he could confirm any random air hit into them was pretty dumb
and the blockstrings were gay as hell too
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>>546060894
>f.s1
Jesus even the devs can't write notation properly huh
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>>546063098
thats how everyone wrote notation back in the day
newfags man
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>>546060624
her down divekick is cool
not enough ahris use it looks p saucy
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>>546063098
>properly
numpad notation is less intuitive than what they use
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>>546051063
im this scared of vi
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>>546060624
this shit is so crazy lol
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chris says illaoi is better than ahri btw
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>babe i don't mind you bringing the axe on our date but remember: you promised that even if you see an ionian you're gonna keep your cool
>darius after two beers:
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>>546065216
he's not retarded
he says what he says, because he knows the devs are prone to balancing via public opinion
top players are literally playing politics
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>>546065216
the only reason illaoi doesn't look strong is because people aren't playing her because the top 4 are so juiced
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>>546065228
oh lawd he stanced up
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the lack of motion inputs is why im playing this game so much
I never got much deeper into most other games that had anything harder than a quarter circle and even in those games I could never do much of any combos or mix that needed several of them
I can actually learn a lot faster with the simple inputs
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i can NOT block yasuo cross up the fuck
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>>546060042
conclusion: it's pretty damn strong (duh)
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For that yunara poster
I wonder how many adcs they're actually going to add early on since they're all some flavor of, I shoot a projectile at you from far away
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>>546069470
counterintuitively, the best defense against yasuo is to hold forward jump,
especially after the stab

almost every stance option loses to forward jump
and the crossup slash also loses to forward jump
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>>546073704
woah really
holy
big tech anon thanks
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>>545689131
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>>546073409
Same with mages desu
This game doesnt even have a real mage because they made Ahri into a flight character
A good 40-50% of the league roster is ranged characters who have no capacity for melee combat at all, it's actually odd this game only has 2 "real" zoners
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>>546074040
this nigga was fat the whole time??
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>>546073409
Yunara can probably easily be a shoto of some sort
She throws all her attacks with punches and kicks in LoL anyways. Her aa’s can just be a simple fireball and her laser can be ryu hyper
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>>546060042
It looks cool but the damage is retarded
just make that shit scale like every other character
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https://x.com/MarlinPie/status/1976696098749399284

>>546075582
devs already tweeted about it, lucky for you
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twitch.tv/lilypichu

YOU FUCKERS SAID SHE WOULD QUIT BUT I BELIEVED
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>>546045683
simply go to r34 like everyone else
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>>546076114
>yasuo backshots were doing too much damage!
>they now do 1 less damage per hit
>to compensate, we removed the hurtbox on j.h. because yasuo was having too much trouble opening people up at low elo
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>play deadlock
>lose game
>play 2xko
>lose 3 games in a row
Yea I should quit for the night.
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>>546077036
;_; that's my girl
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>>546077036
yea she probably not gonna play it alone now the fucking ekko just throwing timewinder at her lol
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pretty obscene damage for 1+1 meter
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the damage is so stupid
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>>546077036
most of the slammers are back at it
https://www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger
https://www.twitch.tv/fumi
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>>546081729
>>546082305
just remember both of these chars have downplayers and those same people are warning us about braum and illaoi
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>>546082305
>>546081729
this is some Rengar Triple Q shit
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we're at that point in the "patch soon!" cycle where i stop wanting to play the game because it feels stupid being reamed by the top tiers when i know they're getting placebo nerfed soon
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i took three days off of 2XKO and i'm getting annihilated by ahri/ekko/yasuo and now vi and these players got literal 1500+ games played on these chars. not even exagerrating
this is just diamond. what the actual fuck is happening
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sex with crime city jinx
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>>546097443
fg players are just autismal and have nothing better to do
t. 1500+ games on my chars
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>>546098893
how the fuck are they not higher ranked. i'm only playing ranked to try and fight niggas my level but i'm on an actual 15 game losing streak tonight
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>>546099015
you can play a lot of games and still be diamond. everyone grows at a different rate
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>>546101359
i guess. been playing on tilt for two hours and lost every single fucking set. finally just quit lol
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>>546103128
i think the big issue is that the game is insanely beginner unfriendly, recent jam be damned. i do not have any faith at all in this team wrt making characters underpowered, just insanely unfun to fight
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>>546103128
i understand the idea, but all it means in practice is old riot games philosophy of
>char comes out
>ruins the entire game singlehandedly
>gets nerfed to the ground just in time for the cycle to repeat
so i'm not really a fan.
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i hope we get this as a taunt eventually
maybe for s1 mastery rewards or something, since those seem like they're gonna change (which has me nervous about reaching 100 before it goes away)
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>>546111347
The mastery rewards dont reset it's just the progression achievements will go back to bronze
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>>546112174
did some dev say that? it's not very clear, but if it's true i can at least stop being a spaz about this
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>>546103295
>>546103128
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>>546112531
lol i haven't looked into zaahen but is he really gonna be that strong?
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>>546112664
imagine if old aatrox was also ambessa and ksante
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>>546112697
wow
why don't they just delete the other champions
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good night tuko
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TFW some guy has been hitting you with his flowchart the entire game and you finally get it downloaded
This ahri had the most obvious overheads and run up Ms of all time
Took me 4 rounds to finally start parrying her man but when I got it I got it
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>>546032893
Also bb got a cool charged S1 hit just now thought of you
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lmao.
https://x.com/K7_Showoff/status/1987745267051851995
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>>546125525
>ahri does not have mix
???????
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but also based song chris g's listening to

>>546125525
based k7 laughing at him

>>546125856
he mispoke
he meant to say
>my* ahri does not have mix
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>>546125525
I played Teemo/Ahri and now Im playing Teemo/Illaoi and Im being so serious when I say this, Illaoi is better than Ahri by a mile. Ahri has mix, but its entirely reactable. Shes extremely telegraphed and is wholly dependent on the pilot being a sound fighting game player to enforce conditioning which is really hard to do in a two (sometimes one) touch game. With Illaoi I will literally 2X assist and that's it Im in and can confirm into the most fucked oki with the tentacle super. There is little to no counterplay. She has better buttons, does insane damage, tenacles are amazing screen control, her strike throw is infinitely scarier, better aerial options, better anti air, insane chip damage, better keep away tools, a fucking amazing match up into Teemo and does well against all the top tiers in general. Illaoi is so underutilised because Ekko and Yasuo exist so no one has really spent any time with her and she's not a waifu character
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>>546127134
there is counterplay to illaoi super
want to play some?
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>>546127134
I think Illaoi herself just has the absolute best tool to deal with ahri in her giant fucking antiair
nobody else has one that goes that high its so unfair
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>>546127134
Retards lose more frequently to Ahri because she's more popular so in their brain she's stronger, don't try reasoning with them. That said Ahri is still fucked up just not as fucked up as Illaoi
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>>546127370
share plz anon
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>>546117439
yeah I would love to see that ignorant usage of it gutted if it would mean 5S1 becomes a usable anti-air, I don't agree with you that it's dogshit because it's a great tool for chasing upbackers. If it wasn't punishable on airblock and was +1-3 in that situation instead it would be a fantastic neutral tool. At the same time I get why you love it as-is because that is quite the ignorant and satisfying neutral skip
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>>546133792
Yeah pretty much.
I see what you mean too of course, but I am an ignorance enjoyer. Maybe if they do those changes they can put out Cait who has a big charged S1 rifle shot that goes fullscreen and crumples and I can use her instead haha
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>>546135834
I know every time we have this conversation it ends up revolving around Vi 5S1 because it's the most egregious example of rewarding airblocking for no reason but my core issue is that all airblocking should have a consistent frame advantage situation that players can intuitively grasp instead of Riot tuning it for every move individually. The fact that they made a game with zero motion inputs but 2 sets of on-block frame data for every single button is bananas and I constantly see high level players trying to take their turns at huge disadvantage in scrambles because they thought they'd be plus. I haven't heard a single argument even attempted for why the current implementation is better than a consistent modifier like almost every other game that allows airblocking.
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>>546141776
yea I don't think any of the pros defend being this advantage if your blocking in the air and if they are it has to be consistent, the tunning of certain moves to just be even more negative wow very beginner friendly game riot kudos, but the issue that everything can be covered by assist and handshake tag is just fucking stupidly powerful so like I don't know how you would balance this. anyway Tagslop is kuso so don't expect it to get better just different
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>>546143129
DBFZ, BBTAG, Strive, and Under Night do it just fine. You eat an additional 2-4 frames of blockstun depending on how high you were when blocking. I don't know why you would ever want someone to be rewarded in any way for blocking in the air instead of on the ground other than the fact that you can't be high/lowed in the air. Two tagsloppas in my post that get it right, why can't Riot?
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>>546143521
okay but have you consider some of the devs on the team are kuso enjoyer and one of them loves jumping and DNF duel so who are we to tell them otherwise, I still can't believe riot allowed them to make a tag fighter I can understand financially if your in vacuum cause it more costume to sell but like this shit is ass like give me that fucking 1v1 game that had Kat in it you fucks
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>>546141776
It is dumb but I think they just want to be different
Moves like WW overhead becoming better if you upback it does kind of feel thematic
Idk i dont think it really matters at the end of the day because in a tag fighter every move should be minus regardless. You can cover everything with your two assists and handshake tags and programmed rekkas anyways
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>>546144495
>Moves like WW overhead becoming better if you upback it does kind of feel thematic
it should become better if opponent airblocks just like everything else
>every move should be minus regardless
sure except the 20f charged punch that is +1 but only when the opponent is grounded (other tag kuso have chargeable or long startup moves that are +1 - +4)
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>>546145012
.It does become better when it's airblocked.
He goes from -7 on grounded block to +19 or something crazy like that
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>>546145226
I know, and I'm agreeing that it should have better frame advantage for Warwick if the opponent blocks it in the air just like it should work for literally every other move in the game.
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>>546145012
>other tag kuso have chargeable or long startup moves that are +1 - +4
The interesting thing is however that chargeable or long startup moves all become better when you can active tag out and continue charging them.
This is actually the one and only tag kuso that allows you to do that
Even in babytag you couldn't continue inputting rekkas or holding charges after tagout, you would have to let it rip. It is more accurately described as unbroken ground for fightan games
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>>546145949
That's fair and I would strongly prefer to see that functionality removed entirely over them breaking fighting game fundamentals. This is assuming these two decisions have ever been in the same conversation for these developers which seems unlikely to me.
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>>546146208
>just make the game boring bro
No, thats lame
I'm here to play tagkuso and make two guys shit out hitboxes
They could make every single one of my moves minus so long as I got to trap people with projectiles I shot weeks ago and slap them with an overhead on the back of their head
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But what happens if you charge lariat trying to anti air and hit a braum that's holding shield special
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>>546132997
illaoi and the tentacle both count as 'illaoi',
so you pushblock the tentacle, and you'll push back illaoi,
creating a gap for you to poke

tentacles break with physical damage,
so poke with something that ideally tags all 3

then that poke will leave you in whiff recovery if illaoi didn't stay in range,
so you'll tag out to have zero recovery

illaoi's counterplay is to hit you before the tentacle connects,
but that opens her up to wakeup attack

her other counterplay is to use assists,
but that's the same as every other oki
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I've been wanting to play Ekko for a long time but I didn't want to contribute to the horde of Ekkos already running around. The more I get cooked by him, Yas, Ahri though the more I feel like dropping one of my characters and just learning him
also Braum is fucking terrifying when played right or with an Ahri/Jinx but I have no idea how to play him
t. ??/Jinx main currently testing Warwick with her
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>>546149949
>warwick
>downgrading
yeah no just pick literally anyone else and you're gonna get more value from assists / damage
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>>546149949
I dont like Ekko with Jinx because of the lack of an antiair assist
There's a pretty good Braum 101 guide out there
I watched it and it made me want to learn him too ngl
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>>546103128
what there is to get? sajam will defend this game no matter what
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this nigga really arguing with the neet qyiyana faggot for hours
oh my days
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>>545933797
me + lamb
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>Taliyah & Tahm Kench
Pls just put them in
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Riot will bring them back, trust
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>>546158001
I feel like Tahm would be boring
He's only cool in lol because he eats people and gets to carry them wherever but you already get to grab people and take them around the screen with every character
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>>546160869
But imagine him eating your partner and keeping them safe, or temporarily eating the opponent's assist character or forcing a tag. Then again his ult wouldn't really fit in the game.
I'll settle for Fiddlesticks
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>>546160869
Tahm could eat your opponents assists and throw and throw them back as a projectile.
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>nobody asking for Yone
real lame
>Yasuo/Yone meta
kino as fuck. you'd literally have to be gay and not the likable kind to disagree.
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>>546152357
ww is way better than he gets credit for
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>>546149785
thing is, if she gets the tentacles set up without using her assist/double down, you're 100% fucked, because now you're gonna eat at least two rotations of tentacles before you can manage to pushblock and she's definitely opening you up in that timeframe
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>>546168715
I'll chew on broken glass and suck your dick, that sounds terrible
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>>546173062
every character is desu
yas and ekko are just the easiest characters with the most foolproof flowchart, not the hardest
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>>546175041
the non top 4 all have variance in their strength, but yeah, it's way more about "who can oppress you the most safely" than anything else. yasuo with the biggest disjoints in the game that start combos no matter where he hits them from, ekko with timewinder and 2x assist, ahri flitting around for 20 minutes til she accidentally pings you with a fireball, and teemo's everything
everyone else has to at least somewhat risk their life when they want to go in, but not these guys, and then when they get in it's oki time
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>>546174638
probably, but that's basically what you gotta accept for getting hit by a solo illaoi
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>>546175303
>shroom super scaling was bugged
Just do the same thing with ekko ball super and they won't just shit out damage please
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>>546173062
yeah the insane feats of... a reactable high low mix... and... thats it. his damage is average, his health is average, his assists are ass... what exactly is he getting credit for even aside from just playing point around an actually good assist champ
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>>546175303
sure whatever
are they actually nerfing the character, though?
>we have reduced teemo's damage by 3%!
ok so he's still gonna have better zoning than jinx + better super tag than anyone + mushroom memes + instant overhead + disgusting normals + disgusting pressure + disgusting oki + disgusting super assist?
unfortunate that "zomfg he does combos?!?!?!!" is what they're focusing on for teemo when the bigger problem is literally everything else about the character. i guess the mushroom super damage going down might be nice but it's probably not gonna be enough. still gonna be s+.
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Freestyle players really do flashy bullshit that does less damage than a standard combo just for fun

https://x.com/i/status/1987942033281962300
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>>546176665
the instant overhead restanding is literally the reason he can combo off it so yes that's a huge nerf.
Also damage really does fucking matter in tag games. They could unironically only make teemo take 3 touches to kill and he would become much much worse
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>>546127134
Converting full screen into a 80% combo with oki off of any little stray hit isn't enough for you fucking faggots is it
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>>546178040
oops image dropped
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https://x.com/hitboxarcade/status/1988289444915671411
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>>546178040
>>546178469
>They could unironically only make teemo take 3 touches to kill
this shit is not happening lol
they've made it pretty clear that they want all characters to be able to two touch, whether they've got mediocre neutral and 0 mix or god neutral and 30 way mix
remember: this is the dev team that thought yasuo was having trouble opening people up and buffed his fucking mix. we are not getting real balance attempts in this game, just placebos that continue to let these retards wank themselves and their personal favorites in god tier
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>>546178574
so they're getting banned for scripting right
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>>546178469
Rush down teemo bros...
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>>546178924
okay but you made a post writing off damage and combo nerfs as if they dont matter but they really can matter
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>>546179583
i also don't really think the damage nerfs would matter too much is the thing. even if teemo's damage went down, his partner's will still be crazy, so he'll just do whatever -> tag launcher, and then ekko/ahri/yasuo spend 2 level ones in one combo or some shit
don't get me wrong, the changes will probably at least help a tiny bit, i just don't expect them to be significant, these devs have a pretty piss poor track record
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TOKON IS BACK BABY
though as much as I hate some of the more degenerate shit in 2XKO I genuinely wish there was more sauce in Tokon
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>>546180376
oh did we get a new trailer?
i don't really wanna play another wallbreak simulator though...
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>>546180376
they still didnt announce a new character though
that games releasing with 14 characters is my guess, by the time it comes out tuko will have more lol
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>>546180507
You didn't want to play a minigame to get your assists?
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>>546180507
new trailer. spider-man and ghost rider will be playable in December's closed beta (this time without the stupid limited time play for 2-3 hours, just the entire three days).
>>546180531
yeah that has me a bit worried but the game's not coming out until what, july 2026?
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>>546180741
i get the idea of "well if you always had 3 fucking assists it'd be annoying," but locking them like that also feels weird... idk it's just a strange system. i'd have much preferred a regular tag fighter.
if they add thanos and he's not the fuckugly mcu version i'll give it a spin though
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>>546179916
nah they would matter.
they way they made it so each character has an individual meter bar means you can't just play neutral with teemo and meter dump with yas, teemo's meter dumps still need to do something to be worth the slot.
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>>546178574
jesus, that's op

>>546178935
it's not that op, because i don't think this is a game where you want to even do that
you're just asking to be freestyle sandwich 50/50'd
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>>546181189
yeah but your point char builds meter for your assist character too, plus yasuo will build plenty of meter when you tag launcher into him and he does an extra 20 hits
but then, he's also getting "nerfed" "again" so we'll have to see about that, too. the ONE thing i'm heartened by wrt this patch is that they've said they're gonna take a look at yasuo backshots damage at the very least
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>>546180376
Tokon is sauceless and has a bunch of shit tied to that faggot green meter. Reminder that retarded game has you stage transition to get assist characters how dumb is that
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>>546183125
tuko NEEDs taliyah
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>>546183504
surely soon
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BIG patch news
jinx tattoos are back
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>>546178469
>>546175303
I see, I thought the "oh that's not intended actually" excuse was just Unconkable trying to save face during AL1 but it seems it will be the whole dev team's motto
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>>546185519
that's literally been how riot does things for as long as theyve existed
i still havent forgiven them for gutting pantheon at the same time they released his sick ass dragonslayer skin and then "forgetting" to mention that they killed him in the patch notes bc they wanted the skin to sell
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>>546185519
AT least they seem to actually know whats bugged
I remember Qiyana used to randomly deal double damage on her passive and it took them like a year to figure it out and they were chain nerfing her the whole time because they couldn't figure out why she was so op.
And then when they fixed it they didnt give consolation anything
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i am now sold on caitlyn being in the game
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What is it about fighting game players and sending FRs
I assume 9/10 times its to talk shit about some perceived insult but its every other game I'm blocking someone in this shit
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>Opal dominated a French tournament with my team.
Time to steal all his tech
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>>546188998
i do it when someone barely wins game one and then cuts the set short
even funnier when they plug and then you run into them in a lobby later
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>>546188919
Wtf caitlyn is based now?
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>>546188919
>no cops
>vi's aight tho she a good girl it's ok
???
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>>546189075
I need to just j.2h crossup in neutral more
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>>546191817
i just can never believe how much fuckin damage timewinder super piles on for being a "just throw it out lolxd" super that's completely safe on block and lets him continue his combo after
this character's so funny, man.
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>>546191995
You play Teemo.
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>>546191817
>crime city jinx monkey has a little hat
cute
also fuck i should really learn monkey combos
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>>546192158
i play darius/blitz
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>>546191817
Finna start air stalling until my assists get back
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>>546192606
wtf dude thinks he's doctor doom
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>>546192606
that is actually cool tech ngl
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is there any real difference between point and assist? you can just switch before round start
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>>546194894
the character you would rather be playing neutral with is still the ideal point
You cant play both characters all the time
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>>546195019
i usually decide that depending on the opponent like against teemo i'll always switch to my jinx assist or keep vi against somebody like yasuo
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Wtf does it mean if they escalated my bug report to a team and they escalate it again, how many dev layers do I have to go through
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>>546194894
it's just a turn of phrase for the active character and the inactive one.
There isn't much point in categorizing the characters separately like in marvel or dbfz. But I'd still say there are assist-oriented characters like Braum, Blitz and Illaoi
Everyone else can manage as both and you're encouraged to swap a lot anyway with the dual meters, active tag, burst and grey hp.

In marvel, your point pretty much always had to use barely any meter and have combos that built meter. Anchors like Dark Pheonix or Doom or Vergil were clearly optimal in the back, free to hog all the bar built and take advantage of level 3 X-factor every game. So there was more of a distinction
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>>546183125
can't wait for december when my gio figure finally arrives
i love her so much
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>>546185479
cool now give us a version of the arcane skin with long hair
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>>546196124
the flash has fallen on hard times
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>mash A to get back to menu
>add random
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>sivir got into riftbound already
man
Qiyana deserved the slot
this better not be foreshadowing the 2xko route
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Just like dbfz, France are gonna be the secret killers that lurk in the shadows.
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>>546206613
tbf it is easy as fuck to print a new card with some text on it and not give a fuck
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>>546212631
the legend cards are a little bit different
you mandatory need one for your deck, it dictates your colours and it lets you use an exclusive spell, and they're the only cards that get the secret rare treatments
And they only put out 12 legends per set for each color combination. So it is kind of rosterfaggy
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https://x.com/ItsZenyu/status/1987139612863525315?t=tQixPW8_DRW9MmnbLg7VAg&s=19
this is what im talking about man
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>>546212949
yeah im just saying you can shit them out way way faster than a whole fg character with multiple skins and voice acting and vfx
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>>546212961
ive watched like every tournament and ive never seen someone hit one of these 30 second twitter combos
Most of them have like 3-4 one frame links anyways
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>>546201625
disgusting striver
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>>546213324
yeah thats true
rosterfagging is fun though
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>>546209758
what makes the french so good at tagsloppa?
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>>546213438
it's because they're burst inefficient
you should still see twitter combos when the opponent's saving burst for next round,
or for game ending hits
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ooogh....
patch coming soon...
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losing to some of the worst ekkos i've ever fought tonight. however, even the worst ekko you've ever fought is still an ekko
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fighting duos means it's twice as likely for the other player to notice that i fall to unc checks
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pulled the little fucker's head directly off of his neck
my hubby is so graceful and talented
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>>546214264
a big chunk of tuco playerbase is made of strivers
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>>546239418
now i'm curious what modern fgs other people itt have played a lot of or if there's any total beginners around
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good night tuko
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>>546242895
Started with dbfz and put the most hours into that, and then tried out some others like strive and sf6 but got bored quickly
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>>546242895
The only modern fg ive seriously tried to play is strive yeah but I never really got into it
I've only ever gotten into a fighting game enough to grind out soloqueue in it once and that was bbtag
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>>546242895
vanquisher in strive. 5k hours playing since day one. That, soul calibur 2/6, and melee are the fightans i like. I dislike tekken and HATE dbfz and mvc
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>>546201625
Same
I havent played the game in years but I still boughted
god i need brown cleavage in this game
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>>546242895
DBFZ is the only good fighting game ever made
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>>546256079
if you like gio you should give the game another try. She is radically different now and imo one of the best designed characters in the game. They give her a lot of depth and new moves compared to how barebones she was in s1/2
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>>546256406
dbfz is a boring piece of shit where every character is goku or vegeta and they all play the same. Garbage source material too
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>the avatar fg was almost tagslop too
how did tagfags take over the fgc so hard?
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>>546257282

It's still has assists, no?
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>>546257548
No, they’re more like fuses themed around characters
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>>546256548
Oh shoot really
That was one of my complaints about the game
Gio had like 3 specials compared to everyone else having like 5 minimum shit was crimminal
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>>546256660
and it is still the only good fighting game ever made, says a lot about whatever your preferred games are
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>>546257816
they gave her naoto kurogane's enhancer mechanic, so her specials actually doubles. What i like about her is that she has no useless moves, they are all good and fit a specific niche
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>>546242895
i'm an anime boomer, but didn't play strive
modern asw is really unappealing

also wish the game were 1XKO instead,
but i'll gladly take tag slop over project L's sf4 base
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>>546256660
>every character is goku or vegeta
Nuh-uh idiot, some characters are Goku AND Vegeta.
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ive yet to meet someone who’s said their favorite fighting game isn’t the one they started with
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>>546258241
Neat okay. I was gonna retry it when they added Jam too, she was the one I was waiting for most of the time I played. Always wished Gio had dragon kick but if they gave her some other sauce that’s cool
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>>546188919
>no cops
i am so glad this game has the playerbase it deserves
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>>546261557
The first fighting game I took seriously was For Honor. It's neither my favorite nor is it/was it ever a good game.
>not a fighting game
neither is Tekken then
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>>546261557
technically i played a lot of fighting games prior, but i know what you mean
the first i actually learned was ggxx, and it's probably still my favorite
i'm that guy
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>>546267786
if for honor counts than i started with smash
But ig i never reslly seriously tried to learn anything beyond like a three hit kirby bnb
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>>546267719
Desu thats just twitch chat for every game man
Most people want the carpet muncher
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>>546257282
Apparently corpos love the idea of tag
Most big liscence games end up here or as a platform fighter for some reason
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>>546280012
Tag teams are like double the marketing and exposure for the characters of the ip, and double the chance of appealing to some characterfag who are watching random games or tournaments
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>>546273832
Why would Smash not count as a fighting game? I have never liked platform fighters but Smash has more in common with Street Fighter/Guilty Gear/SNK than Tekken does for sure
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>>546287610
Yea I do see how the idea appeals
Still kind of surprising considering there’s not many super mainstream ones or persistent series beyond dragonball. But I guess that is enough.
Better than spamming out smash clones like they used to do
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someone do the math how many monthly players does this equal to
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>>546293963
The amount of autism it would require to get a decent stat off this that isn't basic bitch averages is insane
My times is to be expected, but there's nearly the same amount of poros chucked with 30 years of recovery on it as top tier metafag teemo shroom loop combos, are there that many braumfags
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>>546293963
>someone extrapolate with a shit ton of random guesses about data that is missing so that I can finally quench my thirst to numberspost
How about we divert that energy into performing a public hanging (consensual) on you instead?
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>>546293963
>most popular duo
im confused and surprised but ill take it i guess
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do any of u guys play with keyboard?
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>>546301267
no retard just buy this
https://www.amazon.com/JZW-Shop-All-Button-Controller-PC-Joystick-Supports/dp/B0CSW9BMV4
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>>546301267
i dont but i've heard it's like using a hitbox more or less
probably not quite as responsive and clicky or something
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>>546301995
you heard from poor children coping, nobody in their right mind would tell you that a keyboard is anything like a hitbox
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>>546261557
my first fighter was sf2 on snes
i like the idea of learning super turbo but i probably never will touch it because it looks insanely fucked up, but it does look fun
the first fg i played "for real" (as in, could get consistent high quality matches) was strive, but if i'd ever lived in a place with access to locals i'd have been goin to that shit since sf4
fav fg? tuko obviously. my hubby is there
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>>546305152
are you actually gay, real question
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>>546301267
I know a guy who plays every fg with keyboard
even made a custom hitbox with keyboard buttons so he could play tourneys
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>new gacha skin for tft
So you're telling me they get tummy but pool party has to be in a one piece
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>>546305619
sure, how come?
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>>546307228
I was just curious if the anime brainrot language for kids had devolved to the point that straight men call their favorite fictional characters husbandos. Just trying to gauge how out of touch I am
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>>546307408
oh, no, i don't think they're doing that
i try to keep the fanart i post mostly tasteful tho
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>>546256406
Uh, based.
>>546256660
Cringe and locked.
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>>546307717
Yeah I'm not bitching at you, your posts are generally very on topic and don't approach avatarfagging at all. It was just to make sure I wasn't missing a new trend
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>>546257282
>the 2000s tom fulp flash game was almost x and not y!!!
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>>546261557
I played SC2 as a child it's not in my top 3
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>>546307971
yea i didn't think you were hahah

>>546308043
>2000s tom fulp flash game
god damn lmfao
honestly with some of these new fgs coming out (avatar, invincible) they look so much worse than 2xko yet i'm hearing 0 hate on the graphics and animations. invincible in particular animates like REAL bad
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>>546299524
Eh it makes sense
Most popular character + the easiest character
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>>546308343
>invincible in particular animates like REAL bad
It's just taking after its Killer Instinct roots, it's an acquired taste like MvC3. 2XKO has Riot behind it so anything but AAA-perfection is unacceptable to the masses
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>>546301267
yes
ever since i stopped attending locals (aka, playing on consoles),
i started playing exclusively on keyboard

>>546302397
keyboard is like a hitbox
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>>546308973
how old are you and what's your yearly income
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>>546308973
i was formulating a post in my head in response to this and i forgot everything i wanted to say when the combo ended at 69 hits
all i can say now is "haha nice"
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>>546309454
Fag.
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>>546309110
i'm a boomer programmer
money isn't the reason lol

+ more spread out buttons, for the bigger hands
+ smaller 'space bar' to jump, being a regular button
+ works on consoles
- fewer buttons
- less programmable

there are pros to a 'real' leverless controller,
but nothing that actually matters to me
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>>546310326
what in that post could have possibly upset you
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>>546293963
you know it is odd, usually f2p games likes to brag how many players they're having in just a ""prerelease""
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>>546308343
Invincible is so crazy goofy
The characters move back and forth like pngs
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>>546312142
all i've watched of it is a couple character trailers but man...
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>>546308573
>so anything but AAA-perfection is unacceptable to the masses
so why isn't 2xko AAA-perfection?
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>>546312142
it's just staying true to the show
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>>546293963
yeah there's no way that a nearly equal amount of poros and shrooms were thrown that has to be bullshit
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>>546314180
maybe they’re counting closed beta braum? teemo has technically only been out for half the time
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>>546314180
haven't trusted riot stats since the trinity force braum incident
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>>546312142
I don't like shitting on games that have FGC members involved it feels like shitting on family.

Certain FGC people I've seen them play 10 years ago.
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No, but really. How well do you think this game is doing?
Being obsessed with steam charts (and usually failing to interpret them) is retarded but so is outright dismissing it all.
I personally think this game must be doing more or less slightly better than DBFZ, lagging slightly behind GGST. The all time peak must be somewhere around the 15-25k range, with a sharp dropoff then a steady plateau
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I LOVE STEALING. I WILL NEVER LAB I WILL ONLY COPY OTHERS.
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>>546318142
it's hard to say! i'll say this though: in terms of playerbase, i VERY rarely run into the same person twice in one ranked session, even at degen hours. that makes me feel like the population has got to be at least somewhat decent
it also definitely has been selling skins pretty well, almost everyone i fight has a skin for at least one of their chars and if it's an ekko or vi, they pretty frequently have the arcane ones
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>>546316761
Sorry ive been shitting on nrs and mortal kombat my whole life
when animations are that bad it’s just what it is
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>>546318196
gj
make it a habit of practicing combos with the opponent's burst at 0, though
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>>546318196
How much more damage does this route do over her easy bnb
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Just lost 0-2 to a braum/darius
What the fuck am I actually supposed to do against his armor I can't play normally and he just gets free mix opportunities because I can't press
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>>546308973
holy kusoge
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>>546308573
mvc3 looks 10000x better than invincible lol
>>546308323
i mean the first one you actually tried to learn and grinded, not just one you mashed in.
I think the feeling of finally getting how fighting games work is like losing your virginity.
You never forget your first
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>>546322350
unironically run up and grab, if you're a bit further away then empty jump to dodge the assist and grab braum. It feels unintuitive but it works very well, especially against braum players that depend on it to get darius shoulder assist out
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>>546322350
you dont press anything
you either block the mix or parry
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>>546318142
i think its doing better than LoR at the very least
every other person i play having the 100 dollar bundle cant be nothing, that alone is worth more than what i would run into in lor over like 4 hours.
So the game was last at least 4 years i’d bet on
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>>546322350
1. backdash and whiff punish
2. multi-hit moves
3. parry
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>>546312403
>>546312142
I think its just hard to represent those superman-esque flying characters in fgs.
If there’s no jetboots or wings or anything you can’t sell a punch in only 30 frames.
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>sonicfox is spamming games with inzem
are you prepared for the storm of duos to take over the meta
solos are a thing of the past
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>>546322609
Injustice 1 then.
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>>546306979
chinese tft also gets an exclusive autist idol group
literally cant get shit around here
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Yasuo last stand to wake up the chat
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>>546306979
Game made for westerners versus game made for chinamen
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>>546343251
this shit BETTER get nerfed
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Which marvel character would she play most like?
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>>546343251
daily reminder that dead yasuo is stronger than the bottom half of the cast
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>>546343251
interactive gameplay
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>>546343485
it's the one thing i never see people complain about
everyone just says the same "durr his combos are long" like that's the problem with the character
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>>546316761
This. Been in the community for decades and it feels wrong. At the same time, some people need to hear this shit cuz knowing the games as a player and designing games as a developer are two different things and 2XKO is a prime example of that
Invincible though... Iron Galaxy really needs either a bigger budget or better animators who can key frame well and even then, it still looks better than NRS shit
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>>546261557
My favorite fighting game was CvS2 for years despite my first fighting game being SF2 Turbo. Then it was GGX, and now I don't even know
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Was there a patch at all today?
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>>546349601
game did seem to patch when i launched it but i don't think they did anything
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I am desperately trying to make Jinx/Blitz work but this feels like a terrible fucking team and I am not good enough (diamond 3) to make it function properly
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>>546352039
i can't imagine jinx gets a ton of mileage out of blitz's grab assists, but i'm sure you can find some setups or something if you really tried
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honestly he feels like an "it's only a matter of time" character to me
maybe not s1, maybe not even s2, but if garen's not in by the end of s3 i'll be shocked genuinely
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this game is really, really hard to love
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finna play some goodass tuko
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seems punk's enjoying the game a bit



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