Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss everything Sonic!/sthg/ #8799 - Core 3 Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Traileryoutu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE>Sonic Rumble arrives this Novemberx.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1978491359452364988>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 DecemberSonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:grabber.zonetails.kicks-ass.net/>SAGEhttp://sagexpo.org/>SHChttp://shc.zone/>Sonic>#10000 Projectpastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OCs:sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixels:ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>545643763
Silver the Worthless Faggot
Bobo is a sad talentless artist.
This nigga got frosted
Vanilla should get her own spinoff game where she fucks the fucking shit out of me
/sthg/ will say Sonic needs to be more like anime but then have an aneurysm if two characters are too similar and one is "stepping on another character's toes"
boost replaced picrel when I think about it. there has always been boost in sonic. just not implemented the same way
>>545694429
>>545694991Correct
Douge
>>545695028i never picked up theseand when i did it was by accident
>>545695068>jelly
Green hill zoneSonic
I hope Shadow fucking kills himself
>>545692540You do know that the Classic brand is currently in ruins thanks to Superstars failure and Origins reception being mostly mixed, right?
>>545695481Spamming is not contributing.
Will Mephiles appear in the comic ever?
>Shadow getting deserved attention after 20 years of neglect>NOOOO SHADOW IS TOO GREEDY NOOOO HE IS USURPING THE FRANCHISE NOOOOOOOOO MY SLOP 4 NOOOO MY SILVER THE EVANS HUSBANDO NOOOOOOOO
>>545694429Shadow is a sad and greedy cuck. Go back to fapping to your Maria daydream fantasies, bitch.
>>545695557No because the IDW staff rather focus on their OCs and Sega is incredibly restrictive on what they can do. We STILL don't have any actual human characters that appears in the IDW comic yet.
>>545695325So does he
>>545695142and you can play without press the boost button.the point is boost mechanic has always been there,
Shadow flopped. >Movie? Carried by double Carrey>Crossworlds? Flopped due to his appearance. >his game? Needed Sonic on the cover and still underperformed despite massive marketingPoop poop the nigga hog
CROSSWORLDS ONLY HAS 2.6x MORE PLAYERS THAN FRONTIERS ON STEAM!
>>545695431Sonic Team hasn't made a game without green hill zone since 2010. Classicshit is never going away.
>>545695903>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>massive marketingkek
Shitdow to nighog
Iizuka is never wrong.The moon turned.There are two worldsSonic Prime is canonEveryone forgot BlazeIDW is also canonTangle and Whisper are iconic characters
>>545696050Then that means TailsTube is not canon..
>>545695662>Did you just try to take screentime fromShadow? Come here you greedy fuck . Every character must suck Shadows cock at all times
>>545695431>Superstars failureSuperstars was the third highest selling Sonic game of the fiscal year.Besides Classic handles Amy better than Modern.
>RENTFREE
>>545695932Classic era references /=/ Classic Sonic titles
>>545695662Fatdow just got more in one year than anyone besides Sonic has ever
>>545694429>>545695068>>545695481>>545695685Shadow the FAT FUCK
>>545696050Naka was never in jail, dumbass.
>>545695993>>545695917>>545695825>>545695685>>545695662>>545695481>>545695215>>545695068>>545696182>>545696226Shadow's got Black Arms biologyHe's allowed to get even bigger
>>545696138Sega still said that Superstars was a disappointment and forced the Classic continuity to merge back into the main timeline.
>>545696257So he’s a mary sue too? Great
>>545696129literally doesn't happen. Shadow got the least screentime of them all. not counting the chaotix and metal sonic or any classic shit
Have you been practicing your art, /sthg/? It's ok to start from zero, Sonic would want you to keep trying your best, even if its not that good!
'ge
ENOUGH FROM SHADOW
>>545696414Using Ai, but CivitaAi banned nsfw :(
>>545696304>Classic continuity to merge back into the main timeline.When?
>>545696182All were COLOSSAL FLOPS with shadow having little to no screentime. The movie was the biggest shock ever with shitdow one shotted by movie nic, blowing up, and no one caring.
>>545696414is that yours? i like it
>>545696138sexing all these dudes
>>545696414I may have doodled a bit
Hows NNN treating you anon?
>>545696550That's me
Bootydow, the gayhog
>>545697008I'm participating in NNN but not by choice. New meds are forcing me.
>>545697008I discovered AI writing is better than human writing and became obsessed.
CHADow sellsyour favorite doesn't
>>545696918Now draw him fingering himself
>>545697008Why is there a hand grabbing her tail
>>545697092I've been enamored with how my roleplay LLM of choice writes Sonic as well.
>>545695932>Sonic Team hasn't made a game without green hill zone since 2001https://youtu.be/JRSFe3Rf9Pc?si=7-yNvWPlEXzZ7JsrJun has always used dying cats for Classic music
>>545696050>Everyone forgot BlazeHe didn't say that. The "everyone had amnesia" comment was in reference to the games after Solaris is defeated, not during the game
>>545697108FLOPdow the niggggggaaa hogggg
>>545697212Shadow the Hedgehog
>>545697008I've nutted everyday.
>>545697162ok.....
>>545696723He let movienic oneshot him on purpose because he wanted movienic to kill him. Think about it. He pressed the Tom button then immediately turned his back to him. He gestured for him to kill him on the moon like “do it pussy!” He was planning to die anyway from Gerald’s plan, he wanted Sonic to make the same choice he did as justification, and when he didn’t that’s what prompted Shadow to have a change of heart
Wtf are there bleachfags here???
>>545696257He can become an even fatter fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXwlLHRnr7w
>>545697439ALL DODOO HEADCANON, NOT EVEN JEFF GAVE A FUCK WHEN THE SCENE CAME. He didn’t EXPLAIN SHIT. HE RATHER talk about anything else than POOP DOW
>>545697493IC Silvaze is Canon Ichiruki
>Sonurge be like
>>545697008I discovered there's a naked Blaze mod, i don't think i'm going to survive this one...
I love Sally so much
>>545697836
Blaze is best when she has a flat chest but an entire bakery on the back end, both of which she is exceptionally self-conscious about
>>545697728These are actual fucking words.
Salugh mating press
Shadow is not only a bad character, he’s the worst fictional character of all time.
>>545696168Amy can be in either classic or modern projects while Shadow is stuck in sonic team's post-dreamcast schizoland
>>545698174You're just saying that because he's black
Sonic mating press Surge
What's next for them?
>>545698241>implying Classic Amy and Modern Amy are the same characters
>>545698414Who mating presses Kit then?
>>545698414How would this make Surge feel?
>>545698481Amy
>>545698481Definitely not Tails if that's what you wanted to hear
>>545698459Modernshit made all the legacy characters worse
>>545698441In the vault alongside every other orange girl
Made for kisses.
Shadow would be interesting if, like in the movie, he was actually allowed to show emotion or vulnerability even occasionally. But as is he’s literally just Aura and Hype Moments the Hedgehog and that’s shallow as fuck if the franchise wants to revolve around it
>>545698745Shadow is so boring. That’s my issue with the character.
>>545698745Okay Evan damn
>>545698886Because he can never show emotion
>>545698481Blaze
>>545698745>literally just Aura and HypeIn the age of brainrot social media that's all you need
:)
>>545698721Why do they do this to orange girls?
>>545698886Shadow is a slowburn character, of course you're not the target audience
>>545698942Bitch don’t act like that’s just an Evan thing. You want me to believe his whole schtick is about honoring Maria but never actually being sad about her being dead? Fuck up outta here
>>545698975I can't believe this image saved Silver
>>545698975Like I said, shallow
>>545696756Thanks, anon! I have a lot I need to improve on, but I'm actually starting to see some improvement, it really is just practice practice practice>>545696918This is really good! You captured his likeness perfectly!
>>545699074Racism
>create Sonic>give Sonic an even cooler super form>redesign Sonic so he's even cooler and his redesigned super form is cooler than that also>create a new character that is just Super Sonic but even cooler>"WTF, WHY IS SHADOW GETTING SO MUCH"Because Shadow is just Sonic but cooler? No shit he's getting more than Tails or Knuckles.
>>545698745>>545698886Shadow is dumb. IC, I mean. I think he's dumb as a rock. He stands there, non vocal with his arms crossed. He's not brooding or anything, I think it's tumbleweeds in his head. I think he's intellectually disabled which is why he makes the most braindead decisions every waking moment. Shadow doesn't say a lot or communicate because he's too stupid to.
>>545699038<3
>>545699481>he makes the most braindead decisions every waking momentThat's Ian Flynn writing him
>>545699429Right? Who needs Megaman when you have Zero?
>>545698745Archie ruined vulnerability by making the characters into soap opera crybabies.
>>545699429Only dumb normies think Shadow is cooler than Sonic Tails or Knuckles
>>545698441>SticksBanished to the Lost Decade and postmortem Modern Amy references (but only in English).>MarineConfined to secondary media, mobleslop, and Blaze's Dimension. Has the least barriers but no established gameplay.>TripClassic character whose game was a disappointment but was designed by Oshima and is the first "Classic Brand" character which may give her some priority; also restricted to postemortem Modern Amy references.I think Marine has the best chance to return in a game, as there are less barriers to telling stories in Blaze's Dimension. IDW confirmed they are making more Classic stories, so maybe Trip can live on there like other Classic characters have. Sticks is fucked.
>>545699429Shadow looks cooler than Sonic, but isn't.
>>545699671The movies prove this wrong
>>545698734Made for domestic abuse
>>545698441>>545699807Marine will come back soon. She was mentioned in the CrossWorlds JP script and the recent Sonic Channel staff column. I'm certain we'll see her in Rumble.
>>545699101He’s not, he’s just bland and boring.
>>545698115What was her problem?
If you don't like Windnic you don't like Sonic
Muhria
>>545699583With Kyle in his ear
Shitdow the boringhog
>>545700072>Reviving Shadow after SA2 was a mistake, honestlyHe's right but for the wrong reasons
>>545700295>the immortal character should dieNo.
>>545700386Immortal isn't the same as invincible, little bro.
shadow in a diaper
>>545700386Making him immortal was always dumb
>>545699838Vulnerability just existing isn't bad but the hacks running the comics want do soap opera shit like picrel and that made Sega allergic to Sonic and Shadow having feelings. The movies know how to do it tactfully.
The next Shadow game should be very violent. I shant accept any hellokitty in my edgelord service
>>545700426Shadow is both.
girls are so badass....
we need more Shadow
We need Sonurge
>>545700525>The badass in question:
>>545700487And so did 06
>>545700426Whatever explanation you want to come up with doesn't matter, in the context of SA2's story it is
>>545700487>>545700642I don’t buy this because Adventure 3 would’ve been good
Archie > IDW because Archie was so far removed from how the characters actually act that you can't even waste time judging it by those marits. IDW is like a weird hybrid where the characters have lots of vulnerabilities but Sega doesn't even want them to have those anyways so it's written terribly. Attempting to filter twitterism through corporate mascots.
What if Sega never mandated that Sonic have his own Minnie Mouse and we still got Madonna instead of Amy?
>>545699709Normies? You mean the people who were and always will be sega's target audience?
>>545700797Roger Rabbit ass relationship
>>545700720The third part of a trilogy is almost always the worst
>Someone posted a photo of what’s in ABT’s Lanolin booklet>It’s just his Twitter artNot sure what I expected
>>545700720Adventure 3 would've been 50% filler bullshit no one wanted, so 06 and Unleashed are fair candidates
>>545701185ABT showed it off on his stream and everyone saw it was just his Twitter art.
>>545700720This is why there will never be a game named "Sonic Adventure 3", expectations are too high.
Fi onahole
It's happening again, I'm getting depressed thinking of Archie and its unfinished story, and I'm not talking about the reboot, but the preboot. I miss everyone, Sally, Antoine, Bunnie, the barafag, Fiona, Geoff, archie Tails, archie Knuckles, their parents, their children, their families, everyone. I miss every single damn thing, it's unfair bros. I haven't recovered even a decade after. It sucks.
>These people hate Sonic>They don't like Sonic>Finally a manga that GETS Sonic>I fucking hate Sonic X fags, they don't fucking play the gamesWhat is his problem?
>>545701356same
>>545701185Wasn't there supposed to be a Lanolin pic ABT never uploaded in the booklet?
>>545701356Don't cry because its over, cry because it happened.
>>545701356As a diehard Knuckles fan I always loved the whole Brotherhood thing, a line of Guardians dating back generations and each one having at least some information on them
>>545700487>>54570064206 happened to be like an adventure 3 because it was what they knew. Unleashed took what was left of the original SA3 documents and added the werehog and changed the gameplay to Boost
>>545701371His hatred of Sonic X is so funny because he actually does have a point that it isn't a perfect represents of how the characters were in the 2000s games but he delivers it by acting as if it's the worst thing ever made when this is literally just a natural result of different writers telling the same story.
>>545701706True
>>545697008I nut more during November than any other month.
>>545701353That’s just normal Fiona
>>545701185Of course it was just his twitter art. Did people expect it to be porn?
>>545701371>Picrelwrong. His whole thing is "Stop liking what I like" He wants all nonwind fans driven out of the Sonic fandom. His endgame is EVERYONE being a purist.
>>545701356Me neither. I still miss Mina all these years later
Wonder why they chose this stage to give lyrics to?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REZLQRHeAeo
>>545698734please help me i am indian
>>545702064Forcing everyone else to like the same thing you do sounds boring. He sounds like a boring invididual using Sonic as a clutch to compensate for himself being a bore.
>>545701356I miss them too.
>>545698745shadow is supposed to be a suave character but people forget this and think he's just>hmph, i don't have time for this *turns 360 degrees and leaves*
>>545701348I never heard of that and I know most people were curious about what was in it.>>545701498Idk>>545702046Hard to know what people would think, but I’m sure people thought it’d have more exclusive stuff.
>>545701706Dumb secondaries constantly talk about how sonic x is so in-character or had sonic team involvement or was sega's vision blah blah blahThe reality is it was a poorly written, animated, and produced show with next to no involvement from sonic team that was intended to be consumed by literal babies. Prime, boom, satAM, literally everything is more respectful to the source material than X. It can't even get the team dynamics right.
>>545700607This is based. You remember how I said Sonic blends cute and cool elements? Well, Shadow kind of doesn't. Whereas in SA1 the game frequently took time to poke fun at Sonic, in SA2 Shadow maintains his composure for the entire game. Even when he takes a hit he doesn't even look surprised or anything, he just sort of takes a step backwards. Tangle as a character is far more in the spirit of Sonic, she is capable of blending cute and cool elements.
>>545700720What qualifies as a Sonic Adventure title? What is the criteria?
>>545702408Cool elements are a rarity in the comic all she is an annoying comic relief.Her placement on the character poll shows this. You are the minority.
>>545702390Sonic X's contribution to the franchise is the idea that Sonic is the only good character and everyone else is beneath him
>>545702390X is better than IDW
Just imagine Surge spending time with Sonic, enjoying herself as she begins to realize the world isn’t as black and white as she once believed. Through Sonic’s carefree spirit, she learns what it truly means to be free and happy. And that gives her joy.
>>545702379>delusional shadowfags genuinely believe shadow acting in-character as a megalomaniacial sociopath suddenly means he's a charismatic prankster
>>545702829sexist
>>545702816What poll? I don't follow polls cause I don't need other people to validate my opinion for me, unlike you.
>>545702718For me, it's a story involving many characters intertwining and crossing paths, told (and played) from different perspectives.
>>545702718The truth is that the name "Sonic Adventure 2" was a mistake and that game deserved a title that better represents its identity. To us, after many years of very different games, the "Adventure" games have a lot in common, but at the time they were really just Sonic games. A Sonic Adventure 3 would have to somehow please fans of both games even though they are different in some fundamental ways
>>545702893It also introduced Vector simping for Vanilla (these two characters have never been featured in the same game), Rouge being flirty, and (probably) Cream the Rabbit.
>>545702379why do twitter zoomers have to quirkify everything in sight
>>545703162That's Sonic 06.
>>545701436Who's that?
>>545703210>It also introduced Vector simping for Vanillaabsolutely nothing wrong with that
>>545703291Unfortunately you are exactly right.
Sa2 and Chronicles should swap names because Chronicles is a sequel to SA1 and SA2 is a chronicle.
>>545703189SA2 refines and evolves these game modes that were introduced in SA1.Both games share the main gameplay modes of Mech Shooting, Treasure Hunting and Speed/Platforming.
>>545700797No one would complain about humans in Sonic
>>545703326trip from superstars
"Alright guys, cuff me. I'm all yours." - Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic X, season 2, episode 8, 16:48)
Sonic franchise needs more human women.
>>545703525Damn, I missed a lot of stuff. Okay, what's Superstars? I thought it was another compilation like Mega Collection, but apparently not?
>>545703697Superstars is its own game. If you buy it, get it on sale.
>>545703765I don't think I'm buying anything for a while, I'm contemplating killing myself.
>>545703485Tails and Amy's gameplays are gone, the hubs are wrong, NPCs are gone, the story structure is completely different, the controls are different, the stage objectives are different. Those are all things I would expect from a proper "Sonic Adventure 2". Instead they removed a lot of the core experience of Sonic Adventure, and what they kept is very different
>>545703485>Mech Shooting, Treasure Hunting and Speed/Platforming.You do all of this In Shth05.
>>545701356I don't miss that comic at all and I couldn't care less about its story. Hopefully IDW suffers the same fate as it.
>Nintendo claiming now due to their success in movies and the game industry they have excess capital which they “might need to spend” by buying a game company.Sega should sell them RGG and use the money they save to make Sonic bigger
Shadow growing larger? how about Shadow shrinking in size? micro Shadow!Was working on power ups and power energy shieldshttps://files.catbox.moe/xu2b8x.webm
The spindash was a mistake
>>545703839That's stupid, please don't do that. You should do something fun instead, like playing video games
>>545703036Surge is nothing more than a literary mistake. Ian Flynn created a character who's concept relies on Sonic being wrong and only works if Sonic can be put on edge. Sonic literally can't be put on edge. Sega won't allow it. Between Sonic and Surge, Sonic is not allowed to have major developments. So what does that leave her? According to her own fans, she must become a hero. This is the meaning of "When push comes to shove"
>>545703839Don't do that, Sonic is starting to get good again.
http://allourideas.org/soniccharacters
>>545703839I would do it too, but my mother needs me. She doesn't know how to use the computer and my late sister wouldn't like me doing so. Find a purpose, like playing a Sonic game with a friend.
>>545703929Badass
>>545703987Surge's background is way too angsty to stay a villain. Characters like her either become good and fade into the background or become recurring rivals.
>>545702408Agreed, I like her a lot and I think they did a great job with herShe's usually silly, but gets to have her moments, but she doesn't feel as powerful as the more "core" characters and is shown as a more up-and-coming hero and I find that endearingI like the scene where she stays behind after getting infected with the metal virus, telling Sonic to go not because she thinks she can do better or doesn't "need" his help, but because she fully believes Sonic is THE hero and will find a way to fix everythingSpeaking of Sonic and going back to your point of how she's in the spirit of Sonic, I think that's shown pretty well by how they get along even in their very first meeting. They aren't exactly the same but there's plenty enough similarity there to vibe with one another.
>>545703983>>545704001I got in trouble at work, so in anger, I broke my hand. Doctor told me earlier that it'll never be the same ever again, my fingers will never be as they were.>>545704118My own mother is close to death herself, I am in terror of receiving the phone call.
>>545703749I think the placement of their hands should be swapped
>>545703847You forgot Big, but I get it. But SA2 is a sequel to SA1 in the same way Sonic CD is a sequel to Sonic 1.
>>545704329Who's going to play my Archie / SatAM game then? :(Hope it all gets better and hope your mom gets better
>>545704329I hope things get better for you
>>545702408What was Tangle's coolest moment? What was her cutest moment?
>>545704304>but because she fully believes Sonic is THE hero and will find a way to fix everythingThis is true and comic-canon.
>>545704304Tangle exists because Flynn is a paint huffing retard who didn't know how to write Amy and still doesn't
>>545704304>she fully believes Sonic is THE hero and will find a way to fix everythingthis is literally everyone
>>545704789Tangle exists because Ian didn't believe the games had any kick-ass female besides Blaze.
>>545704674sexleta
>>545704939Jet doesn't.
>>545704329Keep strong, my brother. All will be well.
>>545699709>Only dumb normies think Shadow is cooler than Sonic Ummm,, sweetie.....?
>>545703210>rouge being flirtyThis. She acted completely different in sa2 and heroes before x absolutely ruined her character and decided she needed to be a generic femme fatale. Even weirder x's fixation on her and knuckles.
>>545703210>these two characters have never been featured in the same gameThey are now
>>545705106Jet fills the noble role of being the Gary Oak of the franchise, the dedicated professional hater
>>545704569That's the thing, she won't. Cancer is a crabby piece of shit, it never goes away.>>545704586>>545705132Thank you two.
>>545704974I'm trying to find a way to respond to the argument, because I get what he is saying, but he said it in a very stupid way. In the interview he mentioned how Rouge and Blaze aren't easy to use (Rouge because of her sex appeal makes it harder to promote in an all ages comic; Blaze because of her whole dimension crap), Cream is mostly a side character who doesn't take in the action despite what gameplay shows, meaning he only has a problem with Amy. The one-tracked minded woman whose only consistent personality trait is "Likes Sonic", so I'm not surprised he wanted to create an independant tomboy character.
>>545705395I mean, what else is there for Jet that doesn't make him redundant? Being associated with an ancient civilization is Knuckles thing, meaning his only other traits to focus on are him being a cocky prick and a rogue. At least I'm happy Jet remains an antagonist, because Rouge hasn't being a rogue since her debut.
>>545705674Knuckles exists so everyone else can cannibalize him for parts
>>545705497Blaze isn't hard to use.
>>545705830You think so, considering Sonic Team doesn't even bother writing her correctly, but the comics always have to bring up how she has to stay in her homeworld or make up a excuse of why she is even around. At least she is better than Knuckles in this regard.
>>545705260This was only 4 seconds of animation, but it completely changed the trajectory of how the fanbase understands these two characters.Do you think Kenichi Maejima, the director of the episode, is even aware of what he had done?
>>545705260Yeah the "knuckles and rouge" shit is something I've never been able to get behind whenever I try to watch it. They're a cheap comic relief bit and so many people treat them like it's something meaningful or serious
>>545705830Yeah just do what Sonic Team does
>>545705201I don’t give a damn what they intended, being a mopey dickhead ain’t cool
>>545704614>What was Tangle's coolest moment?Hamster wheel>What was her cutest moment?Getting her butt pulled off
>>545706106But anon, he IS a mopey dickhead
>>545705395Gary becomes a friendly professor as the show goes on. Maybe Jet needs some character development
>>545705852Is this asshole ever happy? >>545706076He doesn't. He possibly doesn't even care what some weirdos do on the internet regarding an episode he did two decades and a half ago.
>>545704974blaze is uptight, there's no overlap even there.
>>545706216Exactly
>>545706085It's fun.
IDW attempting to deconstruct Sonic was a stupid idea. Not because Sonic should never be deconstructed, but because he can't be desconstructed. He already knows about the power of teamwork, friendship, and every other virtue you can come up with. Writing a story about that will do literally nothing but spark characterization debates from people who played the videogames this comic is allegedly canon to.
>>545705674Oh I didnt mean that as an insult, I love what an unrepentant asshole Jet is
>>545705356What game? Does it keep Vector being a simp for her?
>>545706060The comic doesn't need a detailed explanations for why she shows up. I doubt readership would care.
>>545706303CrossWorlds, I think they gave Vector some dialogue about Vanilla
>>545706076>This was only 4 seconds of animation, but it completely changed the trajectory of how the fanbase understands these two characters.I would say it compounded the mommy fetish Tailsfags already had from "The Funny kiss" ten years prior. DiC had to have been aware of this because the funny kiss episode was censored on all reruns between 1994 and 2009
>>545705497The independent tomboy character who only exists to be whisper's lesbian life partner, while amy cream and rouge are actually playable in the games that matter
>>545706303They have never been in a game together, Crossworlds is the one game that brought back the "Vector likes Vanilla" thing through Cream and Charmy dialogue.
>>545706262So are swingsets and penny arcades. At some point you want something more mature and serious, and that actually flows with the game canon.
>>545706245>Is this asshole ever happy?WELL
>>545706089>the sol emeralds wanted her to see this kickass theme park but the world being in danger in Unleashed, lost world or forces, or cream being kidnapped in dream team wasn't important enough Blaze is a joke character. Her presence literally has to be played as a gag.
Does this guy like any character
>>545706662kek
https://youtu.be/ORoX511Svik?list=RDORoX511Svik
>>545706263>Sonic can't be deconstructedSatBK deconstructs how Sonic is acts as a hero. SA1 deconstructs earlier Sonic game plots by inverting the setting and subverting expectations on the story resolution(nature vs nature instead of nature vs man/technology).The issue with IDW use of deconstruction is that it doesn't use the devise to reinforce what makes Sonic Sonic.( or at least it doesn't do it in a way that feels satifactory)
>>545706662His porn obsession and him trying to ship Cream and Storm out of nowhere. Guy is a typical furry, next we will see him drawing his Sonic sona on a paint artwork acting like Trump or Kirk.
>>545706263IDW's attempts at deconstruction don't work because the writers only have surface level knowledge of the series.
>>545707246That doesn't sound like a deconstruction, just a subversion of what was already established.
>>545706449I don't know, the amount of Rails porn far outnumbers whatever TailsxSally porn is out there. Obviously one of these scenes had more of an effect than the other.
>>545706921>Unleashed, Lost WorldSo all of the "strong rivals"(Shadow, Knuckles, and Silver) are all also jokes because they are nowhere to be found
>>545707452>I don't know, the amount of Rails porn far outnumbers whatever TailsxSally porn is out there.As true as that is, I was moreso just talking about how it was a long time coming. The "Funny Kiss" episode can't even be removed from the mommy fetish context that only exists outside of the show.
>>545707246IDW deconstructs and subverts by trying to give Sonic a weakness, not a challenge.
SONIC RUMBLE DEVS LIED ABOUT REMOVING KERNEL ANTICHEATTHEY JUST GOT RID OF IT AND PUT IN A NEW DIFFERENT ONE THAT WORKS THE SAME
Knuckles' Chaotix ost is a fucking banger
Sonic Tails KnucklesAmy Cream BigShadow Rouge OmegaEspio Charmy Vector Jet Wave Storm
>>545700797inb4 Sonic X Jason Griffith sounds just like Rob Paulsen (Yakko, Animaniacs)
>>545708486Wow that sounds awfulI cant wait to see what that looks like in a cutscene!
>>545707632YesThey are verifiably useless
>>545697008Considering half the Zeena I've commissioned is porn I didn't even bother.
>>545708380Oh shit
>>545708380Yup. I downloaded the game again for a second time because I saw the Twitter post where the developer said they removed the anticheat, only to find out that the anticheat was still there. I can't even run the game because of it
>>545708486ohmahgurd can u imagine a game where eggman actually WINS everything'll be SO different!!!!
>His story concept hinges on Sonic gaining personality flaws or "relatable qualities"give up now
>>545708830Sonic is Dexter Morgan lmao
>>545708830Ian had the opportunity to have Tangle be the pseudo-audience surrogate and insert all that stuff into her instead of Sonic.
Let's all write a Sonic story together I'll startSonic is parkouring through some ruins...
>>545701356I'll have to reread it sometime after my Japanese scripts of the game Cutscenes, Sonic cartoons and movie binge
>>545709008when suddenly he's shot in the face with Joker gas
>>545708436People shit on the teams for practically no good reason. "Oh I want to see the characters interact with other people" except when that happens it's always boring as shit. Let's not forget the disaster that was shoving rouge on team sonic. It nearly destroyed her character and resulted in her tits disappearing.
Knuckles Tails and Amy still have no character dynamics between them
I don’t think it’s possible for Sonic to beat Mario unless he is a global brand
>>545708968Ian had the opportunity to have Amy be the pseudo-audience surrogate and insert all that stuff into her instead of Sonic if he didn't stick her with the tesco freedom fighters
>Video defending IDW>Claims it's not out of character>Also says that the games are overrated >Also says that accuracy to the games is not necessary >Says they would not care about Sonic anymore if IDW started writing him like the gamesit sounds like idw is out of character and that this difference is significant enough for them to stop following this franchise if it wasn't. They just know that "OOC" is a dirty insulting term that makes them feel less validated.
What kind of arc does IDW need to turn itself around?
>>545709329It's boring as shit when the typical teams interact. That's why the fanbase flipped out over SEGA saying Team Dark aren't friends. They got used to reflexively projecting sissy shit onto them like shopping or sleepovers because the canon dynamic doesn't make sense unless you're an autistic misanthrope like Shadow is.
>2018>Predicts Silver and Blaze being called Team Dimension
Is there something you dont hate?
>>545709751Pull out the camera and reveal the whole thing was a shitty comic that Tails was reading
>>545709450knuckles and amy do have a dynamic, it's just not friendly
>>545709923We all love Marine here
>>545709923I love boobies
>>545709747It sounds more like to me that IDW fans aren't Sonic fans.
>>545709957Source?
>>545709923fan games
i like the comics
Sonic and Amy have no dynamic either.
>>545710092You're racist then.
>>545710075the games and sonic x
>>545710160sonic and amy's dynamic is the dynamic that faggots project onto shadow and sonic
>>545710243>sonic xGet. Out.
>>545709923Zeti and Black Arms
sonic characters don't get character development. they get derailed to make new characters look better, then they get reverted back to exploit nostalgia
>>545710243This single interaction is not a dynamic. Amy and Knuckles almost never interact in the games and there is no consistent theme to their interactions in any of the games. They have no dynamic. Sonic X is non canon trash. Use the games. Sonic is a videogame franchise.
>>545710271"no"besides, it's the same dynamic in both anywaywhen the girls talk about what happened when blaze came across knuckles amy says that's "pretty typical of him" while looking dismissiveshe thinks he's a meathead and he thinks little of her
>>545710084Silver: Worlds Collide
I can fight the feeling to resist it over time
All Sonic adaptations are bad except Sonic and the Blade of Courage.
>>545710506Sonic X but dubbed by Ghost Stories' team.
>>545710506Why did this show try to make Knuckles a stone faced hardass when he was never that?
>>545710084Which one have you played most recently?
>>545710463i already mentioned rush so here's another game example of amy being a bitch to him for no real reason, just for youhttps://youtu.be/px7CH5NVQXQ?t=661
>>545710785uh just you know...going back to the uh basics really haha...code on a printed circuit board, haha, what is this, oak?
windfags who hate sonic x frighten me
>>545710435Then stop making new characters. We never needed anyone who came after SA2
>>545711260The solution isn't to stop making new characters. It's to stop being such shitty ass writers.
Fuck you I liked it
>>545710785Sonic Mania
>>545711421It’s Sonic Team, that’s not possible. What you can do is limit the damage they can do
>>545711589They don't even have to be good writers just stop being shitty ones. If you don't need a crazy story then don't make one, keep it simple.>Flickies are mysteries creaturesOh look we have a story ok now let's play.
>>545710689he had comedic moments and serious moments in it, just like in the gameseven his most serious episode (the one where he finds the shovel claw iirc) has some funny moments like him shouting into the wiretap
>>545711525https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEZgJyTzqPg
>>545711720hellokitty is a mysterious creature
>>545711525>GingersWhy aren't they black yet?
>>545711260Getting to know new characters is part of the series' identity and core appeal.
>>545711920
THIS ISNT FAIRSONIC IS SUPPOSED TO WIN
>>545712310sonic didn't win the console warsonic didn't win the mascot platformer warsonic can't even beat his own fanbase
>>545711525Mr. Tinker should have stuck around as a character and helped the heroes for a story arc before getting Starline'd. It would have made his abduction and death hit harder for the readers and better set up Belle as his successor.
>>545712271And what’s the point if they’ll shortly get ruined for the next new guy? How do you think fans of “core” characters like Tails and Knuckles have felt having to watch them get hoed for 2+ decades for this reason?
>>545712431the whole redeemnic thing could have worked here if it didn't extend to Sonic thinking a fully conscious evil eggman could be redeemed
>>545712431mr tinker is diet ovi kintobor
>>545712423sonic is a derivative of mario.he was never supposed to exist outside of that context.he was trying to netflix mario's blockbuster and got owned.
>>545712464Notice how that happened when they stopped introducing major new characters and focusing on stories and not before.
>>545712540God damnit is everything from IDW recycled from Archie?
Has Sonic Team ever gone back to fix a game?
>Sonic isfree like the wind>Sonic doesn'tdo things the wind doesn't do>Sonic can'tnot be the wind>Sonic must alwaysbe the wind>Sonic's characteris a a positive influence to those around him bringing joy and wonder just like Santa Claus. >it is out of character for Sonic tonot be the wind
>>545712806Who hurt you?
>>545712757>is everything from IDW recycledyes
>>545712781Frontiers
>>545712540Gerald Robotnik is diet Dr. Ovi Kintobor (from the US Sonic Bible)
>>545712882Every major glitch is still in the game
>>545712834My life is peaceful and joyous.
>>545712781What do you mean?
>>545712593It’s not because they started focusing on stories it’s because they were focusing on Sonic himself only. No one will ever argue that Colors/LW/Forces/etc have better stories than the Adventure games
>Anon... it's done. I used the emeralds to turn myself into a human!>Now we can be together forever!
I kneelI squealMy title isn't realI cope. I mope.Someone hand me a rope.I sin. I never win. I dash but cannot spin.I jobI'm a slobHammers kill meWith a lobMy design's moronicMy depression is chronicI am...NOT the real Sonic.
>>545712963Remember when Colors Ultimate was in the news for how broken it was and they promised they weren’t going to leave it broken since that’s not their style?Yet the never fixed the game, have they ever fixed a game that was broken?
>>545712917Gerald did not turn evil under the influence of a chaos emerald radiation of a rotten egg.he was a reasonable man forced to do unreasonable things>ramming a space station into GUN's HQ
>>545712854You could say IDW is a showcase of how a lot of Archie concepts can't work in a more game-adjacent Sonic world.
>>545712936The glitches in Frontiers mainly come from some rare camera quirks during attack animations, and quickly chaining different moves to get high speed and height. They are primarily hard to perform speedrun tricks that they intentionally left in. It used to be easier to get to use them to reach Giganto faster for casual players, but they patched that out while intentionally keeping the harder but faster route used by speedrunners.
>>545713172Anything can work. as long as it's not written like slop
>>545713027Let's count how many times Metal has won a fight.Thank you for joining us!
>>545713590the animation of sonic games peaked with riders
>>545713392He won the first fight in the OVA, and thats all that matters.Metal Sonic is hard carried by the OVA, even though the Mecha Sonics are all better.
>>545713682So quirky and funny!
>>545713746True.
>>545713027>>545713392I want him to beat the fuck out of Sonic in their first fight in movie 4Will it happen? No, probably not because Sega has permanently mandated his status as the Eternal Jobber, but it doesn't stop me from wanting it
>>545714194Amy took down a dozen Metal Sonics in five seconds flatThat alone will tell you how badly he will job in the fourth film
>>545713746I thought he was about to kill that bitch.
>>545714194Sonic jobs in every single film.
>>545714583Then it makes sense a robot modeled after him would seek to surpass him in jobbing
I am so fucking pissed off and horny.
>>545714979Do you wanna be enemies to lovers and fuck it out?
Thie place is really fucking dead.
>>545713023Can.. can you undo it? Reverse it?
>Le Soon
>>545715271IT DOESN'T MATTER IT'S THE SAMEI WANNA BE THE DICK AND I WANT TO SHOOT MY CUM INSIDE THE WOMBIF THE WOMB WANTS TO BE A VILLAIN WORSE FOR HER
>>545712854So what you're saying is that IDW's stupid ideas are actually ok when it's Archie that does them, got it...
>>545715771You talk tough.
>>545716068i didn't say they are stupid. i said idw is written like slop
>>545712854This is an incredibility brainrotted image since it's trying to frame generic concepts as something invented by other Sonic media.
>>545716386Most People here and outside here don't consume anything other than Sonic
>>545716152I wish honey to beat the shit out of me I hate being a slave to my male instincts
>>545716386Isn't most of IDW staff also the same people that worked on Archie?
Holy shit, I don't want the TOON TOWN avatars, put someone I actually care about in the shop!
>>545716594https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xD8-d4YZdQ
>>545716692Yes, but shhhh...
>>545716909hot
Shadamy is out of character and disrespects the core concept of who Amy and Shadow are
I want a mouth THIS BIG and french kiss every girl.
If you guys are playing Rumble, I highly recommend not buying general skills.Choose a character you want to play and focus on them. Cause you're not going to be able to get anything useful if you don't.Also get charge blast and just stand in intersections. I got 4th place, but hit other players so much I was in 1st from the start race cause of how many rings I stole from everyone. It's busted.
>>545717643I want a blobian wife with a mouth that big and for her to french kiss me every day
>>545717802And exploring every inch and tooth as she sucks the soul out of you. You truly are my lost brother.
>>545701356I know there are fan continuations but it won't be the same for me.
What is it about X that causes instant meltdowns? Up until recently I swear the typical opinion was "characters are a bit flanderized, animation is lackluster, lots of filler, but otherwise decent for a sonic show" not "what were they thinking this show is a mockery don't watch it"
>>545718918you dare go against the hive mind? you have been declared a fake fan. consoom the sloppa graciopusly
>>545718918I've never seen any strong opinions about it beyond Chris Thorndyke being the worst. Not that I'm paying attention.
>>545718918The latter is the cause of the former. Sonic X being used as a "better" example than IDW eventually lead to people calling it perfectly in character. This inevitably was going to piss people off. A lot of zoomers forget that there was a time when Sonic X was absolutely reviled by this fandom. And no, it wasn't just Satamfags. It wasn't even mostly satamfags. People hated Chris. People hated ALL of the changes done to the sa1, SA2, and Battle arcs. People hated Knuckles and Amy's flanderization. People hated how much of Sonic's creentime was him sleeping. And yes, before anyone replies, Sonci does sleep about four fucking times in the games X adapts. It doesn't cut it close at all.
I think the Metarex are cool looking
>>545714194Um you do realize Sonic lost in every movie right? Wtf would change??
>>545719193>there was a time when Sonic X was absolutely reviled by this fandom.While being THE most popular Sonic show when it aired.
>>545719193I think the trick is to watch x like a normal person and not an autist who believes that it's some statement on the canon.
>>545719629Mind you, this is entirely true of Sonic Prime right now.
>>545719840Something the autists here can't do.
>>545719840>it's some statement on the canonPeople have been consuming Sonic media like this ever since IDW started. Its too late to go back. All Sonic content is created under the threat of "Ruining" how people see Sonic. You can recommend cool Sonic stuff to anyone except Sonic fans.
>>545719193>reviledX was loved and flooded the internet with memes and content at least in my shitty euro country but i'm sure in the USA too, although it was an AU and not in line with the games.The only critique that NEVER EVER STOPPED was, rightfully, the 4kids! censorship that made it lame.Otherwise it would be your average cool anime shonenslop straight out the 2000s.
>>545720204>The only critique that NEVER EVER STOPPED was, rightfully, the 4kids! censorship that made it lame.Chris
>>545715550Nope!
If there's something i learned out of stuff like sonic, undertale and some recent gay shit titles on steam is that Todd Howard was right:>People will buy anything.Just shill non-stop and make them starve out of content long enough and they'll eventually give up, as long the product is playable.
>>545720602Ok ok, the hatred for chris was eternal too.
sonic x forced sonamy when sonic is canonically an ace king!!!
>>545719840It's important to consider the historical context around X, its target audience, and what the goals of the various entities involved with producing and funding the show were.Most people critiquing the show completely lose sight of this.
It do be like that
:3
>>545721170Sonic is canonically gay for me.
>>545721004They’ll buy Frontiers but then cry endlessly about how the story ruined Sonic instead of focusing on how dogshit the game is in generalThey’ll insist that the greatest versions of Sonic are the ones in the Wii games they played as a kidThey shouldn’t even be considered human
Don't fucking open.
>>545721812Rather rude.
>>545698441Orange......
>>545719629Those aren't mutually exclusive statements.
>>545721452badass bitch
Sonic games for these feels?
>>545715771are you okay?
>>545714979>Every single episode of Sonic Prime
>>545721812I don't think I've felt this guilty and caught red-handed since I was a kid
>>545722474You're lucky you don't have a womb BLAZE!
>>545722474You look like someone with a womb that could get pregnant.
>>545696138>Superstars was the third highest selling Sonic game of the fiscal year.Lmao. That's like saying I'm the strongest person in my room.
sonic prime more like sonic crime
>>545724196Prime?
>>545721429Amy should be on a leash that Sonic is holding
>>545699807>I think Marine has the best chance to return in a game, as there are less barriers to telling stories in Blaze's Dimension.That's true, considering it was admitted the only reason it hasn't appeared in IDW is because writer refusal, not Sega putting it on a no-fly list like Nega.https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxeAlOkokO1tmQ00A4LomSTH_maYXAX4NW?si=__j81JZzRYhm0M49>Q:Are there many mandates on using the Sol Dimension? It’s a bit disappointing to me how there doesn’t seem to be much interest in expanding on itIan: No. If anything, they were surprisingly receptive. Like when we showed Blaze's palace. That had never been established before and we asked specifically "Is there any unused concept or is there anything that we can do to be in line with the concept?" They didn't have art specifically but they did have design notes and technology levels and general themes to follow and so we designed it off of that. As far as I know that's kind of the working concept for it now? Maybe? The thing with the Sol Dimension is that it's just really hard to get to. You can only get there via the sol emeralds and those are only held by Blaze so to bring anyone there you have to have a bit of a circumstance. Blaze has to Ferry people over. There's Sonic Rush Adventure where it was vague how it happened, but I think ultimately it's kind of implied that the emeralds worked together, maybe?Kyle: The warp topaz blasted Sonic into Sol Dimension.Ian: With a supercharge. It wasn't just the warp topaz. It was warped topaz with Super Sonic charge to it. It's the same issue with Angel Island, multiplied by 10. Angel Island is hard to get to but at least it's on the same planet in the same dimension. Blaze's world is a lot harder to get to, and that's unfortunate because oh man, a whole other world to explore and expand and...build upon.Kyle: Get Knuckles off that rock and Blaze out of that stupid dimension.Ian: Watch, the island's gonna get beamed over to the Sol.
>>545722387Sonic Forces It sucks in general
>>545725659Wow, the basis of Blaze's relevance to Sonic is the Sol Dimension and King Blazefag Ian Flynn wants to scrap it
>>545695686Why do you think Chroniclesfag designed his human models after SA1's style-wise specifically?https://files.catbox.moe/wj5fl8.mp4
>>545725659>There's Sonic Rush Adventure where it was vague how it happenedIt's not.>Do you think that maybe you were brought here for a reason?>Brought here? By who?>By the Emeralds.Ian Flynn does not play Sonic games.
>>545725997Likely as a development in-joke. SA1 was originally going to be an RPG, that's why its cutscenes are so modular like it's RPGmaker and why the NPCs have so much dialogue and subplots.
how good are the sol emeralds? they can teleport someone else in a different dimension. how often do the sol emeralds teleport random people to random location just because?
>>545720204People hated Sonic X in this fandom wtf are you on about? Yeah the actual target audience lives it but it pissed off game purists and Satam boomers.
>>545726207No one cares about handhelds.
>>545725721
>>545727824Forces was kino.
>>545727824This and "tortured for months!" almost saved this game.
>ABT's Lanolin comic is just a reprint of what he posted on Twitter
>>545728982Those will be valuable if he even deletes his xitter.
>>545727824My dumb muscle head boyfriend
>>545729294
fuc u
I GUARANTEE if you go to AO3 within 10 minutes of searching you will find a better written story than most of IDW.
>>545729293>insurance for twitter artists
>>545729959damn bro do you hate idw that much
GoodNiGHT, /sthg/
>>545729959Ok but how many of them are just ships IDW isn't allowed to talk about? When you add their restrictions it's not so easy
>>545730258It is true I tried it with a friend.>>545730420Most of them, you can add the restrictions and it will still work.
>>545730510Thec post an example
. . .
>>545729881Why doesn't Fiona have belly fur in late preboot Archie? We have seen her naked tons of times even in the mid 2000s but it suddenly disappears when she puts clothes on.
>>545730258>>545730420This was the story I found on page 1.https://archiveofourown.org/works/72281571This follows the SEGA guidelines.
>>545730596>>545730734
>>545730734>This work could have adult content. If you continue, you have agreed that you are willing to see such content.Uh?
>>545730930I did not see any in the story.
Post characters who could EASILY carry a solo title.
>>545717724I’m out
can tom and maddie get vaulted already holy shit
>>545731019
I'm writing a fanfic where the chaos emeralds and the master emerald all have agency, and they're the villains. I think it's a neat concept that I don't hear too much about.
>>545730623I can never unsee metal as the avatar of transmen.
>>545731447That is...fleetway
>>545729959>I GUARANTEE if you go to [Fanfic website] within 10 minutes of searching you will find a better written story than most of [Fanfic comics].Wow, are you sure?
>>545731598Look madam I got a lot of mockery for saying that on Sonic Twitter.
>>545717724>Just get charge blast bro
>>545731537I haven't read fleetway in quite a while. Am I going to need to reread them? I remember super sonic being a bit of a villain.The direction my fic takes is that the chaos emeralds want chaos, and the master emerald wants order. The two forces butt heads and have found themselves in a "status quo" where sonic and eggman always fight each other. It's chaos, but not too much chaos. These cosmic forces work to make sure sonic and eggman fight each other indefinitely.
>>545698745>he was actually allowed to show emotion or vulnerability>but never actually being sad about her being dead?Is that not what sxsg and dark beginnings did? And even before that, he's gone through entire plot lines over and over of being sad over Maria. To the point that fans are begging to move on. Fuck outta here with your disingenuous retardation, just because he doesn't break down and cry in front of a therapy circle doesn't mean he doesn't have emotional vulnerability. It's precisely because of that vulnerability that only a select few people can witness when it becomes to much for him and even then he choses to move forward.
>>545717724>If you guys are playing Rumble
>>545730930>This work could have adult content.It says that because the writer didn't place any rating tags. That's why it says No archive Warnings Apply. It's Ao3's way of still warning the user in the case there is a surprise mature scene, but people just do this like a general tag more often than not
Shadow is for Cream
>>545720592oh hell yeah, the hot rabbit chick from boom
>>545732260they're age appropriate
I really wish Cream stayed dead just so I don't have to deal with her shitposters
Who is the Raditz of the series?
>>545732487>I really wish [character] stayed dead just so I don't have to deal with their shitpostersCould say this for over half the cast at this point
>>545732645if by that you mean "character that appears once, does what they need to do and never appears again" then tikal
>>545732645>Tfw you realize genderbent is the superior choice
>>545732762unforgivable violence against maleness
>>545732867Why?
>>545729881If you insist.
Should I go find more fics that are better than IDW?
>>545732762>>545732962I PREFER MY MALE ROUGE WITH COCK
>>545732867whisper respects men, just like krack
>>545732671I really wish Sonic stayed dead so we wouldn't have to deal with any of this shit
If IDW is so hated why is Surge such a popular character?
>>545733183Yes. Two very based women.
>>545733270>SurgeWho?
>>545733183Why do we hate krack again?
what year are these expo fags in? 2012?
>>545730712i really think they just forgot and couldn't give enough of a shit
>>545731272We desperately need a rouge and shadow game. Either a stealth mission/beat-em up type thing or a treasure hunting metroidvania.
>>545733612>stealth mission0/10 at best
>a guy talking about a "shadow bible" thinks of shadow as a lesbian
>>545733465she spoke the truth
>Djet
>>545733796djet actually means "snake", it's actually under that eagle which actually symbolises heaven
>>545733675Amazing, please tell me more about what mentally ill people think
>>545733658I'm just trying to think of good shadow n rouge games.
>>545733675How do americans mass produce trannies?
>>545734104snake the hawk
>>545734148Bad educational system.
>>545734148xenoestrogens
>>545734125they think it is funny
Sonic fans will buy anything.
i wont buy rumble skinsever
>>545734992You will.
>>545734148They're raised to believe it's never their fault. If you fell down, it's the road that's bad. If you can't find a girlfriend, it's the girls that are spoiled.If you're unhappy in life, it's the universe that put you in the wrong skin.
I guess Krack got unbanned again ...
>>545734125
>>545735619that's hot
How the FUCK do you defeat the Mecha dragon?
"What would you like your epitaph to read? How about , "Here lies the blue buffoon?" "How about, "Here dozes the masked clown?" Might as well make it for the person who needs it, right?" you know, is this the first time we've had a fight where Sonic and his opponent were out to kill each other?
I hate Sonic X because Rogue straight up does not fit Sonic's world with it just being critters like Sonic, Tails and Amy, especially because they act like the world is entirely green lands and country living with no cities to be seen let alone a government. I'm so glad two worlds nonsense is dead forever it was always retarded, Sonic was fucking concepted to be living alongside humans bro had a human girlfriend in concept art, How could anyone ever accept two worlds let alone buying that Eggman was the only human in that world? Sega was retarded for this shit then,they're retarded for it now, IDW not having humans still bugs me because even through they don't ahere to two worlds nonsense either they almost go out of their way to avoid humanity, Sonic and Blaze ran through a completely disserted Sangonia
>>545733806For me, Sonic seems like one of those franchises where you have to go the full mile when doing a cosplay or else it just doesn’t look right. Like pic related or the one you posted.Not saying how others do it is bad, but for me it’s better when they’re mascot costumes like these.
>>545735857There's the easy one and the hard one. The hard one requires a competent team. The easy one is easy.
>>545735904Sonic being afraid of water is cute
I wish we were back in Archie we'd definitely have multiple factions like this vying for something by now The Eggman Empire The Acorn KingdomG.U.N. Freedom Fighters The Ocean Kingdom The Zeti Let alone smaller factions like the hooligans, Breezy's faction, the pirates, the freedom fighters the new black arms. The IDW comic is really boring with how few factions there are, the resistence is gone now and Sonic's friends aren't a collective nor is the Eggman Empire anything more than eggman's little clubhouse with him and Metal well Sage is in the mix now but I doubt she'll be as much of a force as the egg bosses, and that weird
ShadowBlue Shadow
>>545736790The games did it and it didnt really work
>>545736991Liar
>>545736529Ok finally I got a decent team, it only took 3 tries
>>545737110Me? I wouldnt be able to lie
>>545736790>the resistence is gone nowThis is a good thing. We're not going back to archie. And at what point do you guys realize that with the reigns sega has on idw, even if they did do factions, it would be half assed and severely limited just like the restoration/resistance. You guys want these concepts they aren't going to be allowed to explore to the same degree archie did and sega isn't going to monitor what's going on with all these new in universe factions.
Question for oldfags: do you remember hearing "Eggman" for Robotnik at all before SA1? Feels like it was rare, whereas Bowser was already used for King Koopa before SM64.
>>545737127Whose missing from this game? I assume the following characters aren't in GemerlMarineAriemMightyRayHoneyTripFangBeanBarkEggman NegaInfinite
>>545737351He is called Eggman in Aosth. A lot. I don't know how anyone missed this. Even Katella who literally just met him calls him Eggman.
>>545737398Mephiles
>helo?>>helo, who is this?>this is fren!>>helo fren!>helo fren!
>>545737474I thought he was only called Eggman once by Tails
>>545737892shirumefi is peak
>>545737351I think I was vaguely aware it was his nickname, but I can't remember where I learned this.In the Megadrive games, he was still Dr Robotnik.
>>545738472We really got robbed of more interactions between them
>>545737892>>545738472>>545738654it's just shadilver with extra steps
>>545738680Not really, Mephiles is straight up evil so their relationship is more twisted. Sure you can make Shadow as abusive as you want because that's how fanfics works, but it's easier to imagine Mephiles as an abusive boyfriend than Shadow
>>545739007>Sure you can make Shadow as abusive as you wantwhy wouldnt you do that, it's fun as hell
>>545736128Looks pretty urban in the Pilot which suggests Sonic's World in X isn't just rural and country. https://youtu.be/mAtBVyTApvs?si=UrOlrMz2Mo9beCDdIDW is just continuing what X started. Sonic was always supposed to come from a different planet; Christmas Island was said to be from a different world.
>>545739067It's fun, but Mephiles gets darker tones Shadow can't reach
>>545739278What about Robotnik? While reading IDW, I always felt like he wasn't native from the planet, given he's so different from everyone else, and he mentions leaving the planet after the metal virus, so I assumed he wanted to pillage all the ressources and then go away in his death egg.
>we're inching closer to the "two worlds" thing becoming canon>There's a strong chance that "Mobius" and "Mobians" will be made official game canon eventually Don't like it one bit. Theyre from Christmas Island, they should be called Christians.:D
We need him in more games
>>545739551And because they eat crepes, they have a chandeleur? So they're...
>>545739551Christmas Islanders actually
>>545739554we need him to get touched
>>545739626Dear God they're French...
>>545739919I always thought Robotnik was French. I dunno why, he gives me some old-time knight vibes.Mostly in his arrogance.
>>545739356I get that feel too. The guy flying around in a hovercraft and building bases being the invading alien made more sense than Sonic and his ever-expanding friend group being aliens.This is also the plot of Phantasy Star II, so there is a precedenceEggman just wants to get off the solarpunk furry planet and go home. Unfortunately he's hurting the people of Sonic's World to do it, and Sonic wont allow that.
>>545706263Sonic always takes the most convenient path. He is like entropy, always predictable and acting in a way that maximizes disorder. He is empty, having no dreams or goals of his own, never fighting against any current towards a higher purpose, always acting on his fickle whims. Very predictable.All Eggman needs to do is create a scientific model that predicts his behaviour, and boom, you have a flaw.What you do with that flaw is up to you. I'd like it if he got absolutely annihilated and had a giant crashout because it's funny.
>>545740070That, and also everyone on Mobius has issues with Eggman's tech. I think Tails describes it as "notoriously weird", and Robotnik himself immediately recognizes Bell's design as his, so his entire curriculum feels otherworldly.
>>545735620This is the filth that infects your fandoms when you don’t gatekeep them
>>545740989I'm never sure if people are being serious at "gatekeeping" fandoms that are designed to sell millions with as much appeal as possible like Sonic
Cream leglocks every good damn time
>>545740082Sonic is always right
>>545735620Is there any fandom that isn't intertwined with the queers at this point
>>545742206Sonic is always a bitch.
>>545741968Does she like anal?
1 week until Daddy Doom birthday!
any racing rooms up?
kek
>>545742993She's a rabbit. She likes any position. She'll tongue your asshole if you want her to.
>>545743387Father I... I'm gay
>>545737398Mephiles. Emerl is apparently next in line, but I want my boy Mephiles. I would unironically buy a 60$ skin it would likely be discounted on launch but still for him like a retard because I hope it'd show Sonic Team the character should be truly revived
>>545743963O-Oh. That's good, I'm happy for you, I thought you'd say something crazy and uneducated like Radical Highway sucks
>>545744448ah finallyTail
Holy shit this general sucks
>>545745537What a nice contribution you just made anon, that really improved the quality.
Contributing
Stop taking away the last bits of Shadow's innocence by teaching him that gays exist.
>>545746338HHHNNNNNGGGG i must not concede
what now
>>545739278>Sonic was always supposed to come from a different planetNothing supports this.
>>545739278>Christmas Island was said to be from a different world
>>545747260>>545747674(in Japanese) SPEC vol. 7. Sega Enterprises, Ltd.. November 1990. p. 79. "[R]まずは、出生地。[ソ]クリスマス・アイランド。君達の世界とは全く違った不思議な世界さ、ボクはそこで仲間達と暮らしてるんだ。">TL: [R]First off, my birthplace. [S]Christmas Island. It's a strange world, completely different from yours. I live there with my friends.
>>545694429He's taking everything from Knuckles
>>545748750So Mormons are right?
Do we have a Rumble crew?
>>545739278Idw is just continuing what X "started" because the franchise doesn't know what it wants to do anymore with sonic's world. Then again, the worldbuilding aspect of sonic is of secondary importance to everything else. It always has been. Sega, the arcade company, was never that interested in delivering on that front. X actually attempted to resolve this somewhat with the whole "two worlds" thing, which is why some people actually prefer that approach. I'm not one them, but I will admit that if you're purely invested in the overall coherency of the setting, two worlds is probably more palatable than sega's decision to schizophrenically add and subtract people, places and organizations from the world as if each game is supposed to act as a modular continuity. Is GUN a thing? Is the moon shattered? Where is station square? Where are the humans? What does the world actually look like? You're never getting any permanent answers to these questions. Any answer Ian, iizuka or the yakuza themselves could offer you right now will probably change in about 5-10 years.
>>545748750There are two ways to interpret this. Either it's not literal (it's a remote island that's strange and unknown to normal humans), or Christmas Island is an entire planet/alternate dimension of its own.
WHITEBOARDhttps://magma.com/d/kHatCiwf61https://magma.com/d/kHatCiwf61https://magma.com/d/kHatCiwf61
>>545749165/STHG/You have to make it all caps.Also, be aware there's a schizo in thread who's going to mass reply to any post about Rumble cause he can't run the game from having a bunch of cheatware on his computer.
>>545748750>Mazuwa, shusshōchi. [So] kurisumasu Airando. Kimitachi no sekai to wa mattaku chigatta fushiginasekai-sa, boku wa soko de nakamatachi to kurashi teru nda.
>>545749670Oh boy I can't wait for seeing the same boboslop and general trash.
Games from 1991 to 2006 were designed to take place on the same planet.Sonic Unleashed was designed to take place on a different planet.Sonic Forces was designed to take place on another different planet.Nobody liked those last two facts, so recently they clumsily retconned them into being a single planet again.
So if Emerl comes back in Rumble they're just going to quietely bench Gemerl right?
That fuckass flag match in Sonic Rumble fucking SUCKS
>>545749684Why did you bring me up out of nowhere? I only made a few posts discussing the matter. If you look up info on the anticheat software (Wellbia) it uses you will find several people and uninstall guides explaining the same things I said, there is nothing "schizo" about it. I never told anyone not to play the game, you can do whatever you want, I am happy for you if you enjoy it
>>545749746Oh you poor dear, have some attention.
>>545750106Because he's not getting paid if he doesn't shit on his natural betters.
>>545749983What?
>>545750106Yeah him.He does have a point, but he mass replies and won't drop it after 3 days.No one can help him, so just ignore him.
>>545750108can't wait to see your shitty lizards too
>>545749767>Sonic Unleashed was designed to take place on a different planetA lie you made up.
>>545750003I only had that once and it sucks shit.
>>545750227I never "mass replied".
>>545750291The planet looks completely different compared to any other game and established organizations like GUN or figures like the president are completely absent. Same deal as Forces.
>>545749983Gemerl was never really experiencing a resurgence to begin with anyway. IDW was the only thing he had.
>>545750262Gee, it's almost people keep doing what they personally enjoy. How to make them stop?
>>545750545He was in Sonic Channel a few times.That said I like Emerl better. He has more going for him. I'd love to see him come back as part of Shadow's cast.
Bros, how do we stop CHADspio from rizzing up so many bitches? Any ideas?
>>545751097He's a flag for Silver
>>545750861That's exactly why the whiteboards are dogshit trash lol
Anti-whiteboardblackboard
Sonic characters with this feel?https://youtu.be/ajccPhjdqRg
Remember Tails?Good times
>>545750913Isn't Emerl like super dead? That's like saying you want gamma back
>>545751836How could I forget
>>545751836Who?
>>545752018Oh you know just the greatest fictional character ever
>>545751525>Expecting any quality from Sonic fansI really should stop falling for obvious baits.
>>545752079i like boom tails
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>>545752187You're cringe. No wonder Amy get shitted on if her fans are rabid dogs like you.
>>545752315Copypasta
>>545752178He looks cute with his gear
>>545752381
>>545733675Why are Shadowfags like this
>>545752187Why is the Amyfag like this
>>545752187He's correct.
>>545753142Why do you answer your own spam? That's cringe, no wonder Amyfaggots are banned on sight from every possible forum.
Is Racing Crossworld worth it right now despite its problems (like annoyung chorus music and online) or should I wait for the patches (or a sale)?
>>545753279i'm sure you can buy a key for cheap if you don't mind that
>>545751751>Being invisibleEspio>The danceCharmy>The dude that "can't see" the dancerVectorWhy did the uploader of this video describe this movie as racist?
>>545753279All of that can be modded.It's pretty fun.But it's still an item racer.>Why did the player count drop!?Cause it's been a month and people want to play other games. I don't understand the currentplayerfags. They aren't human.
>>545749670Oh boy i can't wait to be less motivated to draw!
>>545751580Whiteball
>>545753279How is "online" a problem?
>>545754351Why?
>>545749767I can see all the Modern Games from SA1 to 06 taking place on the same planet, but I don't buy the Classic games taking place in the same world as the Modern games.
>>545754724They literally share locations.
>>545754724>DX
Morning CreamChads. What's on the agenda?
What's the tea today, xirs?
>MUH CHECKERBOARDS PATTERNS *ignores that they're also in SA2 and Heroes*
>>545754724>using DX for this argument when it goes out of its way to change all the blue textures to white, when SA1 and 3K’s Icecap used a lot of blue tones
>>545754981without any crack in itunlike you
>Blaze compensates for her flat chest by going absolutely all in on dead-lifts and squats>proceeds to Broly Culo Rouge in front of everyone
>>545754887>>545754897Fine, here's Dreamcast Ice Cap>>545755096Modern Ice Cap on DC is still pretty rocky compared to the glacier look Classic Ice Cap had going on, and that's not even getting into the chateau, windmills and hot air balloons. These are different locations despite both supposedly being the same location from S3&K.
Nooooooo they gave her gay little shorts.Cute though. I'll pretend she's wearing brief boxers like a little tomboy hehehe.
>>545751097He has a big meaty horn
>>545755861I said nothing regarding aesthetics. Lore wise they are the same locations. The classics don't share the same aesthetics as one another either, the Adventure games have different aesthetics from one another and also depending on the release, Heroes has its own aesthetic, Shadow has its own aesthetics. You can't use aesthetics to claim two locations that are clearly meant to be the same place in the world, story and lore are not the same location because they have a different art style.>hot air balloonsI don't know about the windmills, but people started exploring the Mystic Ruins and Angel Island in between the two games.
>>545755150>the post is le good so don't screenshot or mention it. you just can't ok?!
>>545755860This is canon because I believe it to be so
>>545754724There's NPC dialogue referencing Sonic 3 (and, n Japan, Sonic CD), isn't there?
>>545734561Beating the shit out of Tails is pretty funny yeah
>>545756620Yes, and Amy is also meant to reference CD in her opening scene, and Tails' story is a continuation from Sonic 2, and Knuckles getting tricked again is a continuation from 3&K, and the Chaos Emerald lore is expanded from the Sonic 2 and 3 manuals, and side material like the character introduction video from the game's reveal and the character profiles from the SA1 stylebook reference their stories from the classics, and Final Egg has Metal Sonic, and South Island appears in SA2 and follows the lore from the Sonic 1 manual.
>>545755860
>>545753806>I dont understand the currentplayerfagsIts almost entirely shitposting, because its one of the most low effort shitposts ever, thats why you see them in just about every thread where player numbers are available and they all say the same things
>>545756962It's surprising Mephiles got several toys lately. Is Sega going to bring him back or something?
>>545757428They already have
>>545757487Being brought back for a 2 minute battle doesn't count.
>>545757615Retarded and forced.
So I can't go the the draw pile and draw nigger faggot in huge capital letters?
>>545757847It's because the site itself made the rules.
>>545757847Seething nigger.
>>545757847Site moderation says no so do what you will with that.
>>545756620>>545756948Modern versions of those events still happened, but they were district from the Classic Games, as shown by Amy's flashback.
>>545758335This is a stupid cope that never went through the minds of the developers. The game was just recycling assets for the flashback scenes.
>>545754724Well, Sonic Team did separate the canon with Sonic Adventure. Likewise, they were also running on "Two Worlds" logic later on.
>>545758646>Sonic Team did separate the canon with Sonic Adventure.You're making things up. Sonic Adventure only changed the art, it continues from where 3&K left off. They didn't try to make some kind of separation until several years later after a lot of backlash.
>>545758415If they were just recycling assets why was there a unique Metal Sonic model with unique animations available for this cutscene? Especially for this game which notoriously had canned animations for its cutscenes.Also, I never noticed that the BG for this flashback is Beta Wind Valley.
>>545758814>Sonic Adventure only changed the artNo, it also incorporated elements of the WESTERN canon. You know, cause we had two separate Sonic canons running concurrently due to SoJ and SoA fighting each other. Likewise, it exercised a whole lot of the non-Sonic Team Sonic games.It was effectively a Soft-Reboot.
For reference, the current Sonic Team timeline.
>>545759241It's garbage because you have games like Sonic advance 2 and 3 but not the original Advance game. Into the trash it goes
>>545758939What kind of question even is that? They heavily recycled assets. That doesn't mean they didn't also make some new ones.>unique Metal Sonic modelAre you sure that's a different model and not the same model used in Final Egg, where Metal Sonic also appears?>Also, I never noticed that the BG for this flashback is Beta Wind Valley.Yes, there are also other parts of the released game where you can still see screenshots of the original Windy Valley, where they are unrelated to Sonic CD.>>545759075>it also incorporated elements of the WESTERN canonFalse. The game itself does not incorporate western elements in Japanese. The only western element close to Sonic Adventure media in Japanese is the Robotnik name, which was used in the guide books, but that was far from the first time the name Robotnik was used in Japanese.
>>545759549Sonic's Adventure design getting American Sonic's eyebrows says otherwise.
>>545759852I see now that I never should have taken you seriously.
>>545759241>Sonic timelineIgnored and discarded. It doesn't matter.
MIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>545760005Sonic's American canon was itself a fractured mess between two cartoons and a comic run by retards. The recurring elements were:Eggman being RobotnikSonic's different designSonic being a "Freedom Fighter"Planet being named "Mobius"There isn't much uniform to take. I'd mention Fleetway but I haven't read that yet.
>>545760214
>>545760472Don't forget to draw me a shitty Mina doodle this weekend, thx
>>545760474And Sonic Adventure introduced none of that to the main series, contrary to your claim.
>>545760498
>>545761029Temu Blaze>>545761202Blaze
>>545761202Causing Blaze to purr just to see how embarrassed she gets when she catches herself
Blaze Glaze
>>545761392That's Silver's chest fur btw
>>545761593Werehog branded, wish we saw the action.
>>545761540
>>545760583NTA but it did introduce "Robotnik" as Eggman's surname to Japan after Sonic the Fighter
>>545762085>it did introduce "Robotnik" as Eggman's surname to JapanIt didn't. As I already said earlier, the name Robotnik isn't used in the Japanese version of Sonic Adventure. It is used in Japanese Sonic Adventure books, but that is not the introduction of the name Robotnik to Japanese media, as it was already used multiple times in Japanese media prior to Sonic Adventure.
>>545762243>>545762243>>545762243
>>545759362Advance 1 has no story, it's just Sonic & Co. fight against Eggman, the end. Adding it wouldn't change anything
>>545756203>The classics don't share the same aesthetics as one another eitherThey were certainly (way) more consistent though
>>545750470>The planet looks completely different compared to any other gameThe planet in Shadow the Hedgehog is a retcon. In the Classics and SA2 it had the same geography as Earth but with different terrain features and locations
>>545762832Good point.
>>545762530Meanwhile
>>545733806source?
>>545764039That was mostly because of hardware limitations. And it still follows similar aesthetics to the other Classic games of the time so I don't see what's wrong
>>545764918Nothing wrong, it's just different.>follows similar aesthetics to the other Classic games of the timeIt's supposed to be Green Hill Zone, but you'd never be able to tell if the game didn't say so.
