#1970 - Halo, formerly Infinite editionHalo Info:>"Halo: Campaign Evolved" launches in 2026https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/halo-campaign-evolved/9N683TDT5M7R/0010>Latest Infinite Update (10/7)https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/survive-the-undead>Halo Studios announces "Halo Fest"https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-fest-announcedHalo News:>Halo Infinite's final update launches November 18thhttps://www.halowaypoint.com/news/operation-infinite-preview>Halo: Campaign Evolved Roundtable Revealhttps://youtu.be/e-tXi1NC_aU?si=bOtWcXCi_uCKVfH0>Halo: Campaign Evolved "The Silent Cartographer" 13-minute gameplay demohttps://youtu.be/hSjbIM0iegY?si=xRc0YMVmiAXcB7JoPrevious >>545479241
The Endless has arrived
You are currently browsing /hg/ thread #1970>Previous Threads>>545479241 | #1969 - 4nniversary>>545162136 | #1968 - Gamestop>>544983671 | #1967 - SIX SEVEN>>544777918 | #1966 - Haloween II
my spartan looks like this under her armour
Bleach is the root of all.
Okay Baza that's enough.
Cheeks, too far. That's enough.
Mythra > Nia > Pyra
not halo
Very, very Halo
Okay well make another thread. This one sucks.
>>545675104Mendicant Bias>>545702275dogshit flying, miracle you survived
pretty forced thread so far, but I guess it's early
The Master has taken on another apprentice. Whether this is a good thing or not is unknown at this stage and I urge you to not jump to any conclusions, okay?
>"""HALO 1 REMAKE - Bungie Developer Ends Most CONTROVERSIAL Debate""">mint sissy starts saying: """I'M MORE RIGHT BECAUSE I PLAYED MORE HALO THAN ALL THE FANBASE TOGETHER"""Why is he such a faggot?
>>545749413I'm more right because I quit fewer games than him :)
>>545749413I thought he didn't play because his connection was bad.
>>545749413>>545749478>>545749683AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>545750110This meme hasn't aged well
halo is dead
>>545751231chose to end on a sour note for some bizarre reason
Posted without context
Why so serious?
forgot pic
>>545752192Were ammo packs ever a thing in multiplayer? The smaller ones, I mean. I know Halo 2 had a bunch of rocket, sniper, and shotgun ammo boxes around the maps.
>>545751231That female Spartan armor from 5 looks hilarious on shitfinite’s character model.
Gaylo? More like
Halo
>>545751231lmao what's with all the halo 5 slop?There's even a guardian in the background
https://www.walmart.com/ip/EZ-Bombs-Pozole-Bomb-Seasoning-2-Pack-Authentic-Mexican-Soup-Mix-Traditional-Pozole-Made-Real-Chiles-Herbs-Spices-Quick-Flavorful-Meals/14752867212?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=102675822&sourceid=dsn_ad_34ba2672-106a-484b-a996-41cf96423ae3&veh=dsn&wmlspartner=dsn_ad_34ba2672-106a-484b-a996-41cf96423ae3&cn=FY26-MP-PMax-P13N_cnv_dps_dsn_dis_ad_mp_s_n&gclsrc=aw.ds&wl9=pla&wl11=online&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22437915517&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIqZqK7wfKDzBakBWyzUQe9BQ&gclid=CjwKCAiA8bvIBhBJEiwAu5ayrKe2hxjEt0Blrts9P_6AKvIEaT17MA_tGYwucip16M8SzsU7AvNHehoCyY0QAvD_BwE
>wake up>SHITfinite is seriously actually deadLol Next up on the flopping block is the demake.
how many pp grabbers can one link contain
>>545757365Bursting with flavor!
>>545757365
>Infinite lasted 4 yearsOn one hand, that IS the lengthiest support cycle any Halo game has ever had.At the same time, it was supposed to last 10
>>545758161>On one hand, that IS the lengthiest support cycle any Halo game has ever had.Yeah but it also started with less content than any other main series entry by far, and it took about 3ish years to catch up.The most recent year of the game's lifespan has been its best, but it was also too little too late.
>>545758161Turns out it's easy to "support" a game when the community makes the maps and gamemodes for you, and you outsource all the spartan dressup model creation.
I've seen some weird fucking cope about Infinite becoming EOL. My favourite so far is "get digsite to work on the cut infinite maps so they can be added".
>>545758161>On one hand, that IS the lengthiest support cycle any Halo game has ever had.Didn't MCC get support for longer?
>>545758161
But how does Hogarth relate to all of this?
Terminated post above.
The Council wants you to forget about the Hogarth phenomenon. Don't let them.
Okay Marty
Mogadishu
Reminder that Flood levels are NOT Halo. They never were, and they will never be.
Shit thread. Delete it so we may start over.
>>545749413>I'M MORE RIGHT THAN ALL OF YOU BECAUSE I HAVE SIX GORILLION HOURS IN THESE VIDEO GAMES>says the most spineless, fence sitting shit possibleThere is not a depth of hell deep enough for such faggotry.
I want to run some firefight. What's a good time for people?
>>545773389Reach? Not for me.
>>545773548That's coolBut keep it to yourself next time
the trans won
the Halo won
half the halo devs are lgbtqia+
fake news
Working on a gametype.Update of a Firefight gametype I had made previously that was tweaking the gameplay to play like Combat Evolved.It already had a PvP element, but I had some interesting ideas for PvP.So on top of it playing more like Halo 1...>7 minute rounds>Spartans start with 10 lives>Elite players start with 25 lives>Spartans can gain a max of 25 lives total>Killing an Elite player grants Spartans 2 lives. >When an Elite player dies, his respawn timer grows by 5 secondsBeen looking at stats and trying to tune Elite players to be comparable to a Halo CE Elite General, although maybe a little weaker for PvP purposes. Gotta strike the right balance. In the previous version of the gametype I had Spartan players loadouts include Active Camo and Drop Shield to simulate camo and overshield powerups respectively. In this gametype, only Elites will have Armor Abilities, and when they're killed they'll drop them. The idea is to tune it just right so Elite players have a real chance of eliminating the Spartans, but every time an Elite player dies its a significant boost for Spartans - dropping Armor Abilities, powerful weapons, and adding 2 lives to their pool. Spartans also have a real chance of eliminating the Elites, with only 25 lives available to them. Neither is likely to happen in a 7 minute round, but this seems like a nice balance to create some tension
Counter-proposal: Mogadishu
NO MORE HALOLet this be the last thread
/hg/ Operation :Infinite
HeyI just wanted to come over from /v/and absolutely laugh at you worthless fucking niggersWhat a disgrace and pathetic existence you cucks must have hadMaking a general to quite posssibly one of the most mismanaged series of all time, and you kept believeing that it'd fix itself.You guys genuinely need to kill yourselves.
>>545777736literally nobody on /hg/ ever had hope for nuhalowe've been shitting on pissfinite for the last 4 yearsthis is why niggers should lurk
>>545777736>He thinks this is a 343 Halo GeneralMaybe for laughing atI just play the Bungie gamesNot sure what you're getting on about
>>545777736>touristopinion discarded
>>545778437There is no need to be upset
>>545778437Xbox Logo.Open on a modern day parking lot. Captain James Cutter, in UNSC naval dress, is standing by a used car at a car dealership. The salesman is the Jiralhanae Atriox, wearing a tie and carrying a clipboard.Atriox: This baby's yours for 6K. Do we have a deal?Cutter: Three.Atriox: SIX!Cutter: I will get this car for 3K, and this is how...Quick fade, then cut to the two at the car. Cutter starts to turn to leave.Cutter: (voiceover) I'll open with a strategic withdrawal.Atriox: Wait, wait. Whoa, wait, hold on.Cutter: (voiceover) You counter with a disinformation campaign.Atriox: I'll talk to my manager and see what I can do.Cut to inside Atriox's office. Nobody is inside but him. The wall is decorated with sales plaques and a dartboard picturing the Prophet of Regret.Atriox: Just a little longer...Cut to Atriox's POV, as he watches Cutter on his security screen while he hums to himself. Cut back to Atriox.Atriox: I'm talking to no one.Cut back to outside. Atriox is back by the car with Cutter.Atriox: Great news! He said we could do 599...9.Cutter: (voiceover) Then, I'll bait you with psychological warfare.Cutter: Lemme talk to him. (gestures at an inflatable airdancer.) He seems more flexible.Atriox: A pun?! You know I hate puns! You catty little two-faced double opposable thumbed...Cutter pulls out his phone and begins recording Atriox while the Brute continues to rant.Cutter: (voiceover that overlaps Atriox yelling which makes it illegible) You will attempt a verbal assault.
>>545777736Are you okay, Anon?
>>545779443Wars 2 was just as cringe as Halo 4 and 5 and I'll never understand how so many people give it a pass.
>>545779736Atriox: I will tear your head off!Cutter, still recording, turns to show himself in front of Atriox.Atriox: -and hang it from the rearview like a f-!Atriox abruptly stops as he turns to see a man and young woman overhearing him. The father pulls his daughter away from the yelling Brvte.Cutter: (voiceover) ...with collateral damage.Atriox: Ohhhhh no... sorry. Came off wrong.Cutter: (voiceover) The evidence of which will not look good in my online review. And that's how I'll get this car for 3K.Fade cut back to the present, which Cutter having executed his plan. Atriox hangs his head in defeat.Atriox: Well played. How about a warran-Cutter, in the driver's seat of the car, hands Atriox's clipboard back to him.Cutter: Warranties are for suckers.Cutter tosses the pen behind him and starts to drive away.Atriox: (speaking rapidly) All-sales-are-final-no-takebacks-no-substitutions-no-trades.The car's rear bumper falls off. Cutter stops as the engine begins to smoke. Atriox laughs to himself.KNOW YOUR ENEMYHALO WARS 2AVAILABLE FEBRUARY 21Xbox Logo.
>>545742839Reach a shit
>>545777736dan is right!!!
Reach is good. I'll admit, it's much better in the MCC than it was at any point in its Xbox 360 lifespan. But it's pretty damn good.
>>545780962Are you still up?
none of the mcc games are deserving of anything above fine when theres no server browser.
>>545777736AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
But where does the Endless fit into this?
>>545781993who
>>545781213there is always a server browser called the friends list
>>545782342I guess some kind of explanation is in order. This is the Endless, a new ancient evil revealed near the end of the first and only Halo Infinite single player campaign titled "Become". The Endless is a species of alien imprisoned on the Zeta Halo ring (Installation 07) by the Forerunners. On the ring is a location known as "The Silent Auditorium" in which The Forerunners would pass judgement on The Endless before their imprisonment. The Endless as we know it is similar in appearance to those of the Cambrian Explosion approximately 541 million years ago on our own planet Earth. Pure speculation at this point, but this may be a new hint connecting Humans and Forerunners in the Halo series. Anyway, the only remaining member of The Endless that we know about is The Harbinger, who joins a faction of former Covenant known as The Banished, lead of course by the Brute War Master known as Atriox. She does so with the secret plan to use The Banished and their hold on the Zeta Halo ring to free her people from their ancient imprisonment and unleash them upon the unknowing Galaxy. If you want to learn more about The Endless and what happens next in their story, you can find out soon when Halo Campaign Evolved releases on Xbox Series consoles, Playstation 5, Steam, and Windows platforms as well as releasing day one on Xbox Game Pass and Xbox Game Pass PC. If you wanna talk about this more you can add me at GT: JingleBaZa, I'll send you an invite to my private discord server where we can continue this discussion. Y'know, just us. Haha if that's alright of course...
>>545782686>this is not Hxlo, its Hylothanks chatgpt
>>545781130Up to what?
Deez nuts
haitch geeHalo General
>>545778437>support different companiesNo i don't think i will, faggot. I don't even support 343.
>You're gonna see people walkin around all over High Charity with flames coming out of their bu-
JEGA LETS US GO TOT HE NEAREST GAMESTOP AND BUY ALL THE FUNKO POPS NOW
Man, he's really not funny.
AAAAAAAA FUUUUCK ALL THEY HAD WERE ENDLESS I WANTED TONY HECKING STARK JEGA KEEP LOOKING
Why aren't there any sexy babes in Halo?
There are no genders in Halo anymore, chud.
>>545789027pic unrelated
Man, H2A has so much potential. Shame it's fucking dead.
>>545778437>NOOOOO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENJOY CLASSIC HALOcope harder
>>545782342AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>545780962Reach was best when the grain filter was removed. I will never forgive 343 for adding it back in.
Atriox fucking won
>retconned and forgottenAtriox, Endless, Mendicant Bias, all lost.
>>545779736Wars 2 was given kind of a pass because a lot of people were just kind of amazed that it was even happening at allI'm holding out hope that Wars 3 comes out to complete the current storyline and that HS goes back to the drawing board after 3make/anniversary to make a better 4 with less autism.
>>545795678fucking BASED
>>545773389You should run generator defense some time. I'd show up for that
>>545795683>complete the storylineWars 1 was a complete storyline.Wars 2 ended with pointless sequel bait, on top of just being retarded throughout. >make a better 4 with less autismLiterally why? There doesn't need to be a Halo 4, period.
>>545796017You seem to lake the ability to deal with the reality on the ground and would prefer to scream into the hurricane of irrelevanceSuit yourself, and thanks for bumping
Classic Halo gameplay.
holy shit someone just got DONE
>lake the ability
>>545796512>the reality on the groundIs that every 343 game is garbage.You are complacent. You have no sense of discernment. No will to power. You will face the wall with them on the Day of the Hoop.And you will beg only to be raped.
>>545796512You're done.>>545797649You've done him.
>>545798909Sleep tight, lil Spartan.
>>545798909We're going to lose this thanks to the blur engine movies
Running a game in about 30 minutes
>>545799539The cutscenes look to be real time, but they're intentionally cutting out anything not tied to the scenes so shit just disappears. Considering there's not even a destroyed dropship in TSC's opening from the scene prior, it goes both ways at that.
but is it worth it
>>545800493No.Next question.
>>545800493I have points left over from the last battle pass that gave them out, so I might as well.
>>545800493this was free content in 5 btw
>>545800978different gun altogether, and also different circumstances in that 5 actually made the CE Magnum a Forge/playlist gimmick weapon rather than a skin.
>5Not Halo.
>>545801178It was better in 5, while still being free.
>>545801178what point are you trying to make?
Sad they didnt even push out rockridge and beltway. Both maps looked basically done years ago... Did anyone save the video of beltway? I cannot find it anywhere for the life of me.
>Halo was originally going to be a Mac exclusive. Steve Jobs introduced the game at MacWorld 1999>Bungie sold themselves and Halo in 2000>Bungie release Halo 1 and Halo 2 for OG Xbox>Max Hoberman established Xbox Live, SBMM, 1-50 ranking system, online multiplayer on consoles, online Halo state tracking on Bungie.net>After Halo 2, Bungie now want to leave Microsoft, works up a deal where they fill 3 obligations>Bucket 1: Halo 3>Bucket 2: Halo Chronicles>Bucket 3: Halo 4>Halo Movie is scrapped, ODST is compensated (8 month development)>Halo 4 is scrapped, Lee Wilson wants to make Reach>Bungie leaves in 2010/2011>MS creates 343 to create Halo content in 2008/2009/2010>MS/343 outsource Halo Anniversary to Saber, Saber got the contract to develop Halo Anniversary because its CEO 'offered to do it for free' lol>343 gave Halo PC's Gearbox code base, and not Halo XBox's code base, to Saber>343 doesn't know how to use Bungie's Halo engine, only the original Bungie devs knew, Marty told 343 that nobody at Bungie would help them lol>Frank O'Connor retcons Joe Staten's lore and mythos (Humans = Forerunners)>Halo 4 despised by fans>Xbox no longer has Halo carrying the console>Xbox One announcement is a complete flop and permanently damaged the brand>Halo MCC was marketed as a love letter for the fans, having H1/H2/H3 on one console, 1080p 60fps with all maps, but completely busted on release>H1 MCC and H2 MCC based on Gearbox PC port codebase and not the original Xbox codebase>Halo 5 releases, and if Halo 4 didn't kill the franchise, Halo 5 buried it>Tom French managed to salvage Halo 5's multiplayer, H5 never got a W11 port>Halo MCC ported to Windows 10, 343 hires Halo MODDER Sean Cooper (kornman00) to fix the broken port from Jan 2018 - Dec 2023>Infinite and Series X marketed as a return to Xbox's origins>Infinite is delayed, released, promised a 10 year plan and is a complete flop>343 renamed to Halo Studios and is remaking CE in UE5You are here
>>545802918>not updated for Campaign Evolved>no mentions of Infinite winding downLazy bum.
>>545793327>Man, H2A has so much potentialExplain?
Alright, running a test run of this PvP firefight modeTeam changing is enabledChange your team if you want to try ElitesThis is just a test run to see how it's balanced. Only one map. Will go from there re: balancing and adding more maps. Session name is "Halo CE - PvP"
>>545803730Forge is pretty advanced, compared to Reach. You can create maps with functional gates and "destructible" map objects that disappear after a button is pressed. And the sandbox is developed enough to be fun.
>>545802918a good amount of this is irrelevant, incorrect, and bookshitBut thanks for bumping
>>545804353whatever gets us to 2000 is good enough
The Good (enough) EndingIt's very "ruby slippers" esq. MCC was always the real "end" to Halo. It has all the content that has ever mattered and has outlived every game released after it. The real "infinite" Halo if you will.
>>545805265>inb4 "that's just steam"MCC is now more games ahead of Infinite on Xbox than I have ever seen. Infinite is losing to Black Ops 2 and 3.
>>545805265>>545805427basedWe have the halp that mattersFor everything else, I'll just play other games.
>>545805265HIRE THIS POSTER
Why do the Halo books get so much hate? They established the lore
>>545805265
>>545805265What were the player counts like for Halo 3 and Reach in 2008 to 2014? Anyone have the data?
>>545805817They are full of contradictions and are largely irrelevant.That could all be forgiven if they were actually good, but they're meh at best and abysmal at worst
>>545806027I could actually probably get some of these for you but it wouldn't matter much because the player count for Reach at least was known to be somewhat bugged later into its lifespan.What's easier to obtain is the Unique User counts but that's also a very misleading metric.As far as MCC goes, it had a very poor population from 2015 until about 2018 due to an assortment of networking issues and performance bugs.It stuck it out though and against all odds is now the most played Halo game.PS5 release when?
>>545806507>I could actually probably get some of these for you but it wouldn't matter much because the player count for Reach at least was known to be somewhat bugged later into its lifespan.Please do it bro
>>545805265well saidwe have all we needThat's not to say MCC is perfect. It still has a lot of problems.
Why did they sunset the 360 games again?
>>545806545Fine I'll do it.It's going to take some time though.I always deliver, but like anything that's free, you're going to have to be patient.I'm going to grab the UUs and MAUs while I'm at it. Depending on what is easier to compile, it may get dumped in a random order before I group it all in the end.
>>545806805You WILL play MCC.
>>545806671>That's not to say MCC is perfect. It still has a lot of problems.Like what? It's 1:1 with the original versions
>7GBRemember when this was big?
>>545806805They wanted to group everyone onto MCC and see if it would lead to profits in various ways:1. Simply getting people to buy MCC who were instead still only playing the older versions2. Causing MCC to increase playground which would lead to more interest from other people who wanted to join in on the growing sensation (fomo)3. They intended to monetize MCC with micros. This never came to be due to community backlash (and MCC just being too hard to code) but they admitted it was a plan in the workstl;dr $$$
>>545806969>it's 1:1 to the original versionsCE is Gearbox. They have edited it to be closer, but it's still Gearbox.H2 is Vista. They have edited it to be closer, but it' still Vista.H4 is a strange basterdization frankenstein mishmash of vanilla and TU.3 and Reach are mostly fine which helps because they're by far the overwhelming majority of the MCC's playerbase.
>>545806969>Like what?The networking is still very poor. Good luck trying to play with people seperated by oceans without constant disconnects.It's far better than at launch but that's not saying much consideringaunch was one of the worst networking experiences in the history of the medium.
>>545807691>>545807992The game also still crashes a ton.Plus there are little cosmetic issues like loading screens that straight up spoil the upcoming levels and story, and armor that clashes with the art style. You can toggle it off, but the "OG" skins on guns have still been altered for no discernible reason.
Thoughts on that?
>>545804180>Forge is pretty advanced, compared to Reach. You can create maps with functional gates and "destructible" map objects that disappear after a button is pressed. And the sandbox is developed enough to be fun.Max Hoberman wanted to do more with H2A, but he stated it was up to Microsoft/343>Shrinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVKP89UNBQQ>Bloodlinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLHly8HJ3w>Stonetownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8hCeg6RpaE>Zenithhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZesxQlSK1lE>Lockdownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgom21BEAHU>Warlordhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7XRR9GYY4
>>545808618we really should change it after 2000let helldivers or someone else have hg
>>545808618based
>>545808618always has been
>>545805265AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEE
>>545805265Nice to see Wars still has playersI wonder how sweaty they are
>>545808618"MCC General" implies that Infinite is Halo. This already is the """MCC General"""
>>545805265It's a little bittersweet. A part of me still would like some fresh new Halo.But if this is the future, then I guess it could be worse.Back a decade ago I remember being worried that MCC would never be playable and was being left for dead. Now it's the only Halo that matters.I'll take it.
>>545808618MY KNEES ARE MOVING ON THEIR OWN
Halo 7 will feature Vale and Zane fighting over who gets to lead Sanghelios. Settled via bra and panties match of course.
>>545811198>Vale and ZaneLiterally and who?
>>545811874Don't worry about it, kitten.
Thanks for playing if you did. So...Elite loadouts are> Plasma Rifle + Needler + 3 Plasma Grenades> Plasma Rifle + Energy Sword + Active Camo + 1 Plasma Grenade> Fuel Rod + Energy Sword + Armor Lock + 1 Plasma GrenadeElites can't pick up weapons, but they have infinite ammo, a buff to their health, and 1 layer of overshield. The idea was for Elites to be tough but fun and rewarding to kill like facing off against a General in the campaign. (esp. with dropping power weapons and Armor Abilities - picking your loadout as an Elite is a risk/reward tradeoff - ie. You can try to rampage with the Fuel Rod, but if you die you've just delivered power weapons and Armor Lock to the Spartans). My thinking with the overshield was to prevent Elite players getting sniped from across the map. Playing both sides, I think I might add a Shotgun for the Spartans. Elites are currently really deadly at close quarters with their shields, and a Shotgun would mitigate that.ORMight remove or nerf the Sniper loadout (no secondary weapon) AND remove the Elite overshield. If you have any thoughts post em
Will the next Halo game have actual female spartans or will we be stuck with the blocks they gave us in Infinite?
>>545811932Don't like the Overshield or the power weapons.
>>545812108Is that "I don't like being shot at by Elites with power weapons?" or "I don't like power weapons at all?"
>>545812558It's "I don't like being shot at by Elites with power weapons" and "I don't like having to spawn with power weapons to counter the Elites with power weapons".
>>545811932it's called Body Type 2, chud
>>545811932does this happen without "waves"?
Halo 3 tourny
>>545812948I forget how Firefight is sliced, exactly. It's a 7 minute round, which I think is enough for 1 wave if the Spartans make enough progress, which means 5 drops of reinforcements. >>545812745Eh. Hmmm.I get why. I'm not sure I want to budge on them, but I could...>reduce Elite's health and shield bonuses to a more normalized level for PvP>disable headshot kills for Elites (so they'd have to be shot twice with a Sniper every time) >replace Fuel Rod with the Concussion Rifle How does that sound?
Post Anti-Nostalgia>Bungie Pro >Map Packs >Microsoft Points>30fps
>>545815116Correct
why wont my friend play halo with me
>>545815116I'll always defend map packs compared to what came after and what it has done to gaming but I agree with everything else
>>545815959You can't make people play games they don't want to play/hg/ will probably have a lobby going next weekend
>>545808626Shame, H2A is a lot of fun as a what if game in the series, but it never got the map and playlist support it deserved.
>>545815116Having to jump through insane hoops to find and download good quality Halo music tracks that were not on the official soundtrack releases
>>545817250The most unfortunate part of H2A was that there was never a reason to give it a chance because it was bundled with a Halo game you already liked.
>>545817580>The most unfortunate part of H2A was that there was never a reason to give it a chance because it was bundled with a Halo game you already liked.MCC was only planned to be H2A campaign, H2C multiplayer, and Max's H2A multiplayer until they decided to add CE, 3 and 4 to have every mainline Halo in one package
>>545817861The intent obviously differed from the final product. Even as a full game, 6 maps would not have held attention for long.
>>545818054B-but F-Forge!Just i-ignore the b-bad lighting!
>>545815116https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1cdcsNhSPY
>>545818054>>545817861Reminder that when Max Hoberman was hired to work on H2A, he said MCC would be a disaster and he was right Max Hoberman stated that 343 gave him Halo 4's source code and he turned it into H2A MP. He wanted to do more with it, but MCC was a clusterfuck and was completely abandoned until the Windows port MCC was outsourcedhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpklokblI006QYtGlxUeds747lPZD_JSph56qLJqzhw
>>545817580I wouldn't have called the multiplayer H2A at all since retards only ended up comparing the game in every detail to Halo 2 when the obvious intent was making a modern Halo experience but streamlined with a back to basics approach. I would have combined Halo 2 and Halo 3 maps and playlists but kept the gameplay as mostly an enhanced Halo 2 but with the addition of being able to pick up mounted weapons in third person and some Halo 3 vehicles for variety.
Friendly Reminder that you can play Halo 3 (upgraded to 4K), Wars, ODST, Reach and Halo 4 on Xbox Series X BC. Exactly as they shipped.Except for Halo CE and Halo 2.
>>545819250>>it's finally coming to an endNot likely!
>>545819349There's no online, Retard-kun.
I still don't know what a sea creature has to do with the Endless, and at this point I'm too autistic to ask.
>>545819340>I wouldn't have called the multiplayer H2A at allHalo: Certain Affinity
>>545806027I don't have the raw data but I know both got huge boosts when they went free with gold, I remember Reach had 17k+ online in late 2014.
What would Nightdive Halo ports be like?
>>545815116>Halo PC runs at 30fps and is missing shaders and effects. Chimera and Refined fixed it decades later>Halo 2's E3 Demo is smoke and mirrors bullshit >Halo 2's downgrade>Halo 2's cliffhanger >Bungie Pro >Map Packs >Microsoft Points>Xbox Live Gold>Games for Windows Live (Halo 2 Vista)>Halo 3: ODST underwhelms for $60, No matchmaking for firefight>ODST Brown and bloom. Motion blur. Red at the edges of the screen when you take damage to indicate low health. "Environmental storytelling grafitti", straight out of Bioshock or Dead Space, that says stuff like "No Hope" "Covenant Bastards" "The UNSC Lies!" "hell on Earth", written in blood because ... you know that's something people would bother to do in the middle of a crisis situation>30fps>default FOV of 70>Reach's bloom and motion blur>grey featureless less than 30FPS motion blur forge maps
How the fuck did that happen?
>>545742839THE TEN YEAR PLAN UP IN FLAMES HUH /hg/?!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHFUCK 343 and fuck it’s retarded fanboys
Was MCC really that bad in 2014?
>>545820598It was seen as a huge joke back then. Some might even say a scam.
>>545820598Yes1th placeForced halo 4 searches[Halo4IQuit]2v6 matches on spawnHit reg on all halos not correct Xbox versionCE had the gearbox DING DING DING Sound on enemy hit and damage so you basically were playing with life alert on 24/7Missing mapsH2A host bootingNo firefightCustomization was trashMatchmaking wait time-19 minutes on launch t.was there
>>545815116What the fuck is Bungie Pro?
>>545821202Let you upload more to file share and I think some quality changes and I think you had more access to mythic maps when it was coming out
>>545819821Halo: CE with tastefully updated models and environments would be awesome.
>>545819821They would cut down the LIbrary by one floor at the very least.Still pissed that they dumbed down Turok 2.
>>545820598https://youtu.be/ypjLel6SVpk?si=jB4EoYAhJezkqTNa11 minutes in and you’ll know
>>545820195343...>TU update literally killed Big Team Battle in Reach because the shitty bloom was the only thing that balanced the DMR as a starting weapon on the large open maps >Just becomes DMR spam, save for power weapons>Every other non-power weapon is fucking useless>Vehicles are fucking useless because now it's way too easy to shoot them accurately; they die in 10 seconds>CEA is outsourced slopHalo 4...>April 2012 Game Informer reveals first details about Halo 4's multiplayer and it's so bad everyone thinks it's actually a joke.>Infinity Slayer sucks>Ordnance Drops suck>Boltshot spawning>DMR dominates the meta because of reduced bloom and the launch BR taking 5 shots to kill>They removed so many features from Reach that Forge and Custom Games suffered. Didn't launch with a Forge World equivalent>File Share was broken for years>Clearly inspired by Black Ops: Sprint, large maps, randomness from ordinance drops etc, no ranking systemMCC>MCC initially started as a rushed project from a bunch of different hands on deck trying to get it out in time, hence its broken launch>It was never meant to be a way to preserve the older games. It was Microsoft’s greedy attempt to cash in on Halo 2’s ten year anniversary. They wanted way too much out of it in a short period of time, porting four titles, creating a new remaster and tacking on an unnecessary multiplayer using Halo 4’s engine. Then they abandoned it for years when it inevitably failed. >Anyone who works in software can tell you this type of thing is completely unacceptable and avoidable >Completely fucked>Bonnie Ross and Frank O'Connor had to formally apologize >Paid fans to fix it lol "You want MCC fixed? Fix it yourself">MCC is completely missing dozens of game types from H2, H3 and Reach playlist on the 360 also
>>545820195>>ODST Brown and bloom. Motion blur. Red at the edges of the screen when you take damage to indicate low health.The Obama game classic playing it today is really jarring
I thought people hated Nightdive?
>>545823446I like them.Emphasis on "like".
Halo.
>>545823748I'm still pissed of that time where a jugg grabbed my banshee and killed it.
>>545815116enough time has passed that people forget that bungie would routinely patch harmless glitches and out-of-bounds from campaign. It was disappointing seeing glitches on the forums because you knew it'd be patched within a month or so. Any glitches that remain today are largely physics-based that would require core changes to the engine itself. Not because Bungie was le chill guyIt's a common sentiment I see with the younger crowds who genuinely think bungie was more pro-fun or something.
>>545823910>enough time has passed that people forget that bungie would routinely patch harmless glitches and out-of-bounds from campaign. It was disappointing seeing glitches on the forums because you knew it'd be patched within a month or so. Any glitches that remain today are largely physics-based that would require core changes to the engine itself. Not because Bungie was le chill guyWeren't Halo 3's map variants used to patch out glitches or remove weapons?
>>545823748Can we not?
>>545823986I don't know if any weapons were removed, but some equipment and shield doors were removed from the disc variants and invisible walls added.
>>545823986yup. I don't remember the details, but they couldn't release incremental patches due to how the game and engine worked.It really wasn't much different than Rockstar removing any semblance of fun from GTA Online, like the cargobob. Bungie were nazis back then too.
>>545824261What did Rockstar do to the cargobob?
>>545824106There's also Sand Tarp that removed the framerate crashing Elephants, but I don't think it shows in MCC matchmaking.
>>545824261>yup. I don't remember the details, but they couldn't release incremental patches due to how the game and engine worked.Wasn't it because it ran on discs and not HDD?
>>545824261They couldn't release incremental patches because certification on the 360 was prohibitively expensive.
>>545824437>They couldn't release incremental patches because certification on the 360 was prohibitively expensive.Halo 4 did it on the same console.
>>545824261>cargobobDid they nerf it again? It used to work (kinda) 10 years ago.
>>545824543They stopped after a while, but during Bungie's tenure games were given 1 big patch for free and everything else cost the publisher money.
>>545820337Because bungie used a closed source proprietary audio codec that was heavily modified to run on a 360.>Reach has some challenging technical hurdles - the foremost being the update and transfer of the audio signal path and processing scheme from the original release on Xbox 360. Since the underlying hardware architecture of the Xbox 360 is fundamentally different than our current Xbox One and PC platforms, our first internal pass involved an approximation of the PowerPC audio code and DSP.Not only that but those tools are outdated as fuck and were never updated, I believe they were already outdated by the time Reach was released.
>>545824261>>545824678Boundless, Pit Stop, Sand Tarp and EpilogueWhat changed here?
>>545825191Those maps were essentially forge variants with objects that are normally inaccessible to the player. They didn't require a software patch because you just got them in matchmaking. They weren't included in the base game, either. The only way to get them was saving them from your recent history or someone's file share.
>>545824335>>545824545nevermind I'm retarded, I was thinking of the cargo plane that they removed the ability to load vehicles into the back. just overall anti-fun>>545824387>>545824437I have a weak understanding, but iirc each map is basically a self-contained file with all of the assets packed inside. For example, a campaign mission that doesn't have the rocket launcher appear means you wouldn't be able to spawn it even using dev tools. That means making any changes to the level's geometry would mean re-compiling the map entirely and requiring users to download it again. Which, as >>545824387 pointed out, would be impossible due to lack of HDD space on the original xbox 360. Also a lot of people just did not have great internet in 2007-2010.I'm guessing bungie did have a way to hotfix certain things, because they were able to add invisible barriers to campaign maps. there was probably a way to sideload those since the storage required would be literally less than a kilobyte just to describe the dimensions and coordinates of a polygon to block the player.
>>545825615That is also true, it's very cumbersome to make small changes to the Halo games. It's why the Reach and Halo 4 patches only affected multiplayer, they wrote a way to patch weapon functions by using gametypes that are easy to distribute and modify. Not entirely unlike what happened with some of CE's weapons functioning differently in multiplayer compared to campaign.
>>545825615>would be impossible due to lack of HDD space on the original xbox 360. Also a lot of people just did not have great internet in 2007-2010.Halo 4 fixed this by forcing multiplayer maps to be installed to HDD
>>545826058Many years later, when a HDD greater than 20GB was commonplace.
>>545825615>Also a lot of people just did not have great internet in 2007-2010.Based Bungie giving us Halo 2 Map Pack DVD and Halo 3: Mythic DVD, which are essential now that the servers are 404
>Xbox 360 DVD (which has a maximum theoretical read speed of 16.5 MB/s>Xbox 360 using SATA II (which has a maximum theoretical read speed of 300MB/s) No wonder why Bungie insisted players install Reach to the HDD.
>>545826748crazy to think that waiting ~2-5 minutes was just normal for GTA4 & GTA5. I remember launching GTA4 and then getting up and doing chores around the house to kill time.the punishment of dying wasn't just losing money or progress, it was having to wait 30-60 seconds to respawn.
Did you get a RROD?
>>545827514Red rings? Yes.The RROD? No.
>>545820598However bad you think it was, it was worse. Was genuinely unplayable. If you told me that a decade later its reputation would be reversed and it would be the most played game I would think you were fucking with me.
>The Intel Pentium III and NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 are solid choices to mimic the original Xbox's performanceWhat if Halo 7 was built to take full advantage of the 5090?
So....who exactly is steering the ship with Halo at this point?
>actual discussion going onYea im out
>>545827514Nope. My disc drive stopped working though.
>>545828338Don't be a silly billy, Anon.
>>545828225Infinite was built to run on Xbox One is equivalent to a GTX 750 lol
>>545828338At this point it’s just the wind
>>545828379I'm gonna kiss you on the mouth
>No Bonnie Ross>No Frank O'Connor>No Tom FrenchAre you happy now?
>>545829108The damage is already done.
No, i think is just getting started.
Halo and Xbox never recovered after this
>The disc version of Halo Infinite doesn't actually contain the full playable game, instead, it requires online DRM to install the gameBravo 343
>>545819821Fucking phenomenal companyTheir Doom ports are S tier
>>545830525>borderlands 2 came out in 2012That game aged so horribly lmao
>>545831057AAAIIIEEE
>>545820598>Was MCC really that bad in 2014?Yes. It was a fucking train wreck in every sense of the word.The weirdest thing about it though is that sometimes and for some people it would randomly and spurratically almost... work perfectly?Hence "it works on my machine"
>>545831057>>545831606You now remember that Halo 4 was the last Halo game that worked perfectly fine offline, had split-screen, had LAN, and didn't need updates to work
>>545831057This has been a common thing on consoles since 2013 in all fairness
Is it possible to have offline LAN parties in 5, MCC and Infinite?
>>545832081>Is it possible to have offline LAN parties in 5i THINK so>MCCyes, though not out of the box, you'll need to have updated the game at least once>and Infinite?no idea, probably not
>>545742839HIDE YO KIDSHIDE YO WIFE
In 20 years, Infinite will be completely unplayable without some fanmade client.
nobody cars
I've never really thought about this before because I'm more mixed on the game but where does the Halo 3 AR compass point on the final mission?
>>545820598It's still fucky even now. My computer crashes on Halo 3 BTB if i don't turn off the new armor pieces.
System link?Offline LAN parties with the boys?No Xbox Live gold?Soul overload
el pozole
Shut the fuck up
>>545832081I'm the mehI am the meh
>>545834413Nah, fuck you.You don't get to tell pozoleposters to shut the fuck up.
Where does Dokibird fit into this?
>>545834413AAAAHWUBADUGHHAIL BEEPWOOOB WOB WOB>>545834498eezcomesdowndodidle
>>545833568Halo 2's UI is so fucking crispStill the GOAT imo
“Halo Infinite will go on for 10 years” (Barely even lasts 4 years)
>>545834781>>545833568Project Cartographer is better than H2 in MCC
>>545831476It was so good though. It only seems to have aged poorly because everyone copied and iterated on it, much like Battle Royales with PUBG or skinner box shooters like Call of Duty (Try going back and playing old CODs, they feel so dated, even MW 1/2). Looter Shooters have evolved significantly over the last decade.
>>545834957I mean that wouldn't surprise meBut MCC is just so much more convenient and populated
>>545835067I mean MW2 was always overratedCoD4 is alright but the infinitely spawning enemies is a choreBlack Ops 1 is cool but it's more of a movie than a game in the way that it's good, though it does have some solid maps and the cod points system was nice.MW3 is actually really underrated.Blops 2 is peak CoD.
>>545834781
Halofest should have more Halo 2.
>>545835307>MW3 is actually really underrated.>Blops 2 is peak CoD.Based.
>>545835386
>>545835137>and populatedis it?
>>545836015NTA but it is if you like to play snipers and fiesta. Sword battle is pretty popular too.
>>545836015Every single time I try to play 4v4 slayer I get a match within 5 minutes.
>>545836015I just played like an hour and half of games tonight, mostly 3 but some CE and h2a and like 2 days ago i played a bunch of 2 mp, didn't have to wait more than 5 mins for a game.
The Regulars have abandoned Halo and would rather play Gays of War./hg/ is finished.
>BO2 is 960x540 on 360>Considered GOAT to this dayWhat went so right here
>boot up MCC >enemy team does every map specific meta>teammates consist of a retard, his guest and a guy who can't move and shoot at the same timeHome...
>>545836837>a guy who can't move and shoot at the same timeThese are the most confusing people I've ever seen. Last time I played with a guy like that was in ODST Firefight. Dude even had to take time to pull the trigger. I don't know how these people do it.
>>5458320815 requires a Windows PC on the same network. I don't know if it requires you to be connected to the Internet as well.
>>54583676060fps
>>545836760>>545837861Treyarch improved on what people liked between WaW, BO1, BO2 and BO3.Bungie and 343 has been changing the game since Reach.
>>545838010The only two Halo games that played similarly are 2 and 3, and even that is arguable because of 2's glitches.
>>545836760Art Style > Frame Rate Consistency > Frame Rate Target >>> Aliasing >>>>>> muh resolution
>>545838238>Art Style > Frame Rate Consistency > Frame Rate TargetDid Infinite have these?
>>545836730what?? there's a new gears of war game out?
>>545836015As someone that has been beating the drum of saying MCC is borderline dead outside of 3 and reach for many months, it's actually noticeably more populated now.That does not mean you'll find people as quickly for every game/mode combination still, but it's the best it has been in quite a whileI think the death of infinite has done a number on it
>>545838624Theres that new gears 1 remake, idk how well it did though
>>545838740ah yes are you gonna play it?
>>545838740Gearsbros... Do NOT open.
Halo on Switch 2
>>545838923no, i already played gears1 ages ago and i never cared for the mp
>>545838238It's funny how reach was a failure in each of those aspects.
>Halo 2 looks better than Halo Infinite
*Ahem*Halo: Campaign Evolved
year 25 of the halo century of humilation
>>54584044815*
>>545840215will be great
>>545840212>that picSoul vs Soul
...https://x.com/bentoDRAWS/status/1987241408600940663
>>545843578Why are people being so fucking dramatic? Oh no we won't get our quarter yearly store and battle pass cosmetic slop updates the horror!
>>545844254We're just having fun
>zoomers can't play a game they like unless it gets updates
>>545844254>>545845981>Halo fans enjoying the game for what it is>Halo fans being angry, bitter, cynical, salty, constantly whiningThe duality of the Halo fandom
>>545844254Infinite is only being played for those "quarter yearly store and battle pass cosmetic slop updates". Without them, people will just move on to better games.
>>545846150I can't speak for everyoneFor me, it's more about laughing at the 10 year plan being a failureObviously the game isn't actually dead or anything just because it' not getting anymore content
>>545843578Lmao, zoomers really ate up Infinite>>545844254They are emotional sisters
>>545846157I guess this is another example of "I'm too fucking old to understand people playing purely for cosmetics".
Infinite will have like 500 players in 2 months
Rusty as fuck, but playing some MCC mods has been an interesting experience so far.>Trooper FirefightLots of cool ideas, but way too much of a clusterfuck. No weapon hud icons kinda makes it iffy to know what's what, especially in the first person demo, and slowing the player down on damage is kinda super shit since even a scratch dogpiles into a death. Makes me wonder how Halo with a SOCOM playstyle over top the player's head would play.>Sierra 117 Nighttime (H3 on ODST)Was very interesting at first, if buggy with the bloom being blown out on anything glowing when VISR was on, but then the dev throws an absolute clusterfuck later in the mission and.. AUG rifles? Feels like a test bed of shit thrown at a wall, not sure if I wanna try the others.>Second StrikeFun, if a bit awkward on navigation of empty spaces at times and I think I skipped an AA turret somehow. Nice CE-in-2 feel to it.What are your favorite mods?
>>545846496Me too, but when I browse the Halo communities for Infinite, they always talk about the best way to grind for cosmetics or they bitch about shitty teammates who get in the of of their grinding. People don't play Infinite to get to most frags, cap the most flags or whatever. Enjoying a BTB CTF for the sake of enjoying it seems to be alien to them.
>>545846496>>545846880>No exp>No cosmetics>No grindingCE? King
>>545846880It's the nature of the game. When Reach was the in thing I remember people trying to find ways to game XP but at least you could earn shit in-game. With Infinite having so many vaulted items but also requiring basically everything to work towards XP of some sort as people either level passes or hunt for the Hero rank, a lot of the fun got optimized out in favor of XP. Happens with many games, cosmetics or otherwise; Battlefield 6 is suffering from shit challenges and low XP rates that the devs are trying to fix and tons of people prioritized the grind, though BF6 puts actual good weapons and equipment behind that shit. You're gonna see it happen with Black Ops 6, too.With everything so focused on unlocks and cosmetics nowadays, you need friend groups or to just ignore a lot of online shit to get basic interactions at this point.
>>545846880It's not even a Halo community problem, it's universal. The "ugh why would I play if I can't unlock/grind anything?" mindset is everywhere.I genuinely don't know how this happened, I ran away from the AAA and mainstream games after 2012. Did battlepasses train people to only play for unlocking things reasons?
>>545843578:(
>>545846856>certified kinoRuby's Rebalanced Halo CEHavok ModYet Another Marine Campaign Mod.Ultimate FirefightSPV3>things to look forward toNew CovenantCivil Unrest (currently unavailable to the public)Ruby's Rebalanced Halo 2Halo EffectHalo Reach: EvolvedThere are probably other mods you'd like on the Workshop. Feel free to give them a shot.
>Shitfinite ranked goes stone cold dead as soon as you reach this time even on a weekendI appreciate that rank matching and the utter inanity of having separate arena and slayer playlists doesn't help anything but I am going to choose to assume this means only the role playing manchild goofs are still playing this game.
>>545847574Cosmetics and the grind for cosmetics (and guns, see Call of Duty) became THE social glue for multiplayer games. People play modern games to get new cool looking stuff or to show off the cool looking stuff they've "earned". In some cases, like in Counter Strike, people play the game for the tiny chance of making a quick buck with weapon skins.
>>545847704I estimate it's mostly just Ranked. Looking at my usual go-to of Firefight, even with just Fiestas on the composer, that's got a good find speed right now, same as it usually is.Honestly as someone playing on the XSX personally, I genuinely think it's mostly the Steam version that's dead. Xbox players were able to massively bolster Helldivers 2 on their launch day, there's likely an undercurrent of Xbox players for Infinite that the Steam charts will never be able to tell you. Which just goes to show that Ranked ain't doing so hot.
It really fucking annoys me when the match is 2v4, the score is a steaktacular, and guys still chicken out of a 1v1, dude your teammate is going to shoot me in the back 0.1s after this anyways.
>Steaktacular is a reference to Frankie being a shitterLove to see it.
>>545846263very hater desu
>>545847635Halo 2 with Halo 1 style medkits, even new Covenant medkits for Arbiter is such a cool idea for a mod. It is taking too long to make however.
>>545757724why are you doing this
>>545777736/hg/ mostly exists to shit on Halo Studios/343 Industries
>>545777736*kneels*
>>545846856>CESPV3, Ruby's Rebalance, Ocarina of Time map, All the old Custom Edition ginormous maps with silly weapons and vehicles and AI (Coldsnap, Extinction, Hugeass, etc.).I still need to give Havok, Better with friends, and a couple of others a proper playthrough. CE in general has such a mountain of mods to go through thanks to Custom Edition.>2Halo 2 Uncut for now until Ruby's Rebalance gets released (There's a severe lack of Halo 2 mods tbqh)>3Ultimate Firefight, Ruby's Rebalance (I only got to play a little bit of it, but I liked what I played and I keep rewatching his vidoc for it because it seems like it would have been so fun, kicking myself for procrastinating), Pimps at Sea, The Golden City (and a couple of other missions by the same modder), the AI battle mods are also a good time>ReachRuby's Rebalance, Mythic Overhaul (And its firefight spinoff), and there was one more where you had extra Spartan allies but also more enemies and there were new weapons>4Genesong Cut (Makes fighting Prometheans so fun), and Mythic Overhaul
>>545854804Honestly seeing the development videos, it's kind of fucky how weird the health system for 2 is.>we wanna do a full regen system late in development, lets just make health recover on its own now>so we give the player very little overall health because we didn't have time to balance pass this shit before release>and uhhh, every single time a checkpoint triggers, just so there isn't some weird softlock or death loop, we should make their health automatically go back to max>and we did this so late that the medkit code is still 100% intact in the map tags, we just stripped out the medkitsI don't even want to imagine the hacky shit they figured out to save the current health just for keeping it from being reset every single checkpoint.
>>545847635Good list.
>>545777736Yes that's right, we famously worship and only talk about 343i games in a positive manner here.Also lmao going to /v/ in 2025.
>>545857761>There's a severe lack of Halo 2 mods tbqhIsn't Halo 2 the hardest to mod?
>>545858061Easiest actually. The damage Inferno did to that games modding reputation is hilarious.
>>545858061I can imagine its biggest problem is likely barrels of duct tape everywhere, but the way some of these mods seem, people have the tools and the tags; they just gotta give a fuck, and why bother with 2 normally when 3 is right there in most people's eyes?
Meet Potential Game!>The lighting would have looked so good if the Xbox could have handled it>The story would have been so good if Bungie could have finished it>The gameplay would be so good if it wasn't Vista>Just wait until Arbiter's playable again>Dual wielding will catch on eventually>Competitive players will drop 3 some day!>Give me liberty, give me fire, give me glitches and bugged combos or I retire>0 matchmaking games, 0 custom lobbies, 7 players total
>>545860510I heard that's not Halo
>>545858536Halo 2 has functional Elite artificial intelligence and unique Brute behaviors that Halo 3 stripped the game of completely for the sake of simplicity. Halo 3 might have added more shit to the sandbox in sheer quantity but Halo 2 has everything you actually need in place to make good mods already, even the medkit code is still there from Combat Evolved.
GOOD MORNING MINTO
>>545840212the blue filter sucks the soul out of the imagehalo 2 is supposed to be gloomyit's a world being drained by endless wareventually everything will look like all the delta halo ruins - which is the same color pallet as the flood
GOOD MORNING BLEACH NATION
buying halo bf;_;
>>545846856The night time halo 3 campaign pack is great. The flashlight version is goated. In addition to making the game look gothic and vivid, it gives the assault rifle headshot capability which plays surprisingly well. There's also an incomplete mod pack that puts halo 3's levels in odst's engine with some new weapons and they look and play a lot better than the originals.
Bleacharounds fuck off
>*farts bigly into the halosissy's mouth*
terminated post above
but what about the jesus themes?
If roblox is the most popular game right now, do you really think people give a single fuck about graphics? Shitfinite looks like the mona lisa to most gamers.
jjab themes above
>>545858879Funny how Halo 2 is still better than anything since Combat Evolved despite those shortcomings. Also ignoring that Bungie were creatively bankrupt going forward, they put all their remaining creativity into Halo 2 and then stopped caring after this because they wanted to leave Microsoft and it shows in their games.
>>545871961It is a bit wild now how Halo 3 doesn’t feel quite as special as CE and 2 but I struggle to put my finger on what exactly
Pozole
>>545870440It's popular because it'll run on a piece of shit, which is all its playerbase of literal children have access to at their age. Let's not pretend the majority of parents have the money to spend to buy their kids a powerful desktop.
>>545882704I think you've missed the point entirely.
>>545882909No, you've missed what I've implied. They don't care about graphics as a cope, as soon as these kids grow up and have money of their own to spend on consoles and machines, they start caring about graphics 90% of the time, and it's been this way for about 20 years.That's not to say they'd suddenly be playing Infinite though, kids don't give a fuck about Halo for the most part, it's an old man's game for 30 somethings, the odd 20 something.
>>545883189you're more retarded than i thought
>>545883674>le lower case responseOkay fuck off then
>>545883771fuck off to where, retard? are you gonna ban me from the server? blow it out your ass, you narcissistic faggot.
ugh why would I play Halo if I can't sprint anywhereit's akin to driving a nascar with a defunct brake. you are handicapping yourself at that point.
>racists analogy
>>545828338
cheefag is campaigning on /v/ again
>>545883189This is correct. Those kids do care about graphics. They're the ones watching GTA6 trailers over and over again.
Halo Campaign Evolved looks like shit.
>>545892727Unfortunately this isn't true
Everyone at church today?
FORGE IS DOWN
>>545897405i already have a wife, church has no value to me now
>>545897501AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>545897626You could cheat on her with a cute boy who goes to church. Think of the possibilities.
Terminated Post Above
>>545898441Terminated series. Microsoft will continue to drop money into this dead game but its been over for a long long time
(1/2)It's been 21 years, so can we finally admit Halo 2's campaign sucks? I've just replayed it on Heroic and it dawned on me that NONE of the guns feel satisfying to use aside from the Fuel Rod. Every weapon in Halo 1 felt satisfying even on Legendary, but in Halo 2 the feedback is just meh.>All the dual-wieldable weapons got nerfed when single-wielded (WTF happened to the Needler?)>Dual-wielding basically just makes them as useful as they were in CE...except no it doesn't since now you can't melee or use nades>Shotgun is completely useless, except in enemy hands apparently which is when it magically becomes the CE shotgun>The Battle Rifle is actually pretty fun but that don't mean shit when you can only hold 3 spare magazines>The Sniper and Fuel Rod are like the only guns that can hold more than 3 spare mags; everything was better in CE>They could've made the Carbine a battery-powered Plasma weapon, but instead it's a Temu BRThe actual enemies are a downgrade from CE too:>The Elites feel dumber>There's rarely more than 5 actors on-screen at once, so the Flood's swarm tactics got replaced with bullet sponge tactics>Brutes are not fun to fight at all>God damn Jackal snipers everywhereIt's also a VERY frontloaded campaign as the game peaks with the Scarab Fight in Metropolis. Halo 2 has way too many wave defense scenes, and if you're not holding position you're instead running down a narrow corridor with few tactical avenues. "Shooting Gallery" and the gravity bridge Drones in High Charity have also got to be the WORST parts of ANY Halo.There's not a single enjoyable vehicle section either:>Splatters are boring as vehicles don't feel weighty anymore (they can even can now stop on a dime now)>You never get wide open spaces to drive around in>Scorpion's blast radius got nerfed massively, so it's no longer an artillery game but a corridor shooter>The Scorpion can't even one-shot a Banshee lol
>>545905902(2/2)The music and story are 10/10 though. I was also surprised to find I liked High Charity MORE this time around. As much as I bitched about the gravity bridge part, much of the level feels almost like a Resident Evil game as it's not always wise to fight; sometimes you need to bait the AI into fighting each other to give yourself an opening to run, which is great fucking stuff, I love that.
>>545906205(3/3)Halo 2 was not a lightning in a bottle, for that matter.
>>545905902link to the x/reddit post?
>>545905902>Heroic>bitching about Jackal snipersWeak.
>>545906678The point is that even on Heroic, the guns feel worse than CE on Legendary.
Jaime Griesemer:>Halo 2 was NOT balancedhttps://youtu.be/8YJ53skc-k4?t=429
>>545905902I didn't grow up on Halo 2 so I never understood the cult following with it. I have to imagine it was more the time period since LAN parties were common. I think the thing that hurts the most is that Halo 2 did not feel like a sequel. Halo CE might as well have been an entirely different and isolated game. Almost like how Bioshock Infinite completely dropped the tone and universe of Bioshock 1&2.Halo 3 improved on pretty much everything except for the writing, and was just an overall much better game.
>>545907213The Halo 2 Sniper Rifle was for retards.Even me, a retard who can't snipe in CE can reliably kill people with it in Halo 2.
>>545907324>Halo 3 improved on pretty much everything except for the writing3's biggest step back was the Brutes. Halo 3's Brutes are more fun to fight than Halo 2's Brutes, but they're not nearly as fun to fight as Halo 2's Elites.
>>545897501FORGE IS BACK UPALL UNITSMAC AWAYHELL JUMPERS - HELL JUM - HELL J - HEL - HE - HE - HE - HLOCAL UNITSI AM THE ARBITTTTTERRR
It should have been Jerome's Big Adventure instead of Combat Redeemed.
>>545908428There will be an other time.
>>545805427Yep. This is from last week.
>>545908943I say we pick on the DayZ communityShow them why we were chosen
This was then.This is now.
>>545909517that's just xbox
>>545840212>that bottom picWhat mod is this? WOW! I NEED TO PLAY HALO 2 NOW!!! HAPPY 21TH BIRTHDAY HALO 2!!!
>>545905902Wait, holy fuck, I had no idea TODAY was Halo 2's 21st birthday. What possessed me to play Halo 2 today??
>>545908521But i want it NOW
It's not up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8PkqPTZHkw
Is this the halo thread?
>>545909517>this is shitlo 5>168th placeLMAO
>>545909517Why does Black Ops 2 still have so many players?
>>545910813console players don't have custom zombies
>>545910672
>>545910672>>545910941that's just xbox
>>545910930Makes sense. I never got into zombies because I didn't buy any of the DLCs and Tranzit was terrible.
>>545910941>State of Decay 2 that lowSoD2 bros...
>>545910609I can't help but think that this mod is so much fucking effort for no reward. A dozen people play it and you can't use it on your portfolio for any professional career. Years well spent?
>>545910609just watched his video on balancing the covenant and in the first 30 seconds he demonstrated that he has absolutely no idea what 30 seconds of fun actually means. he and so many others could just go ask jaime griesemer what he meant, or go back to the original material, but they prefer to just beg the question. ruby is a subjectivist, making it up as he goes along. we just have to hope he accidentally makes something that isn't too far removed from vanilla halo 2.
>>545911408>you can't use it on your portfolio for any professional careerYou silly little Anon.
>>545911408For fun. Is a hobby and a passion project. And believe me, more than a dozen people will play it.
>>545910941>oblivion remaster that low>scroll down>gears reloaded even lowerBut the 34Studio shill keep saying that the HCE remake will revive Halo? HAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>545911042black ops 2 had the best and worst zombies maps and no gobblegum
>>545911490Like a lot of modders, he's a Halo 1 fanboy so he's leaning toward that when designing enemies.
.
>>545911531No one is going to take "oh yeah I modified 20 year old low res assets" seriously. >t. hard surface artist that's done freelance work for various studios
>>545911490>he has absolutely no idea what 30 seconds of fun actually meansWhat is it meant to mean? I always thought it meant that you should break heavy-hitting action into 30 second chunks
Ruby is fine.His mods are fine.The obsession with "improving" the experience as opposed to just accepting that it's a fun mod you're making, while not exclusive to Ruby, is cringe.
>>545912205After reading my post you have landed on the decision to ask me?
>>545912448>The obsession with "improving" the experience as opposed to just accepting that it's a fun mod you're makingWhat a silly observation.
Finally some good fucking food.>get A/B testing thumbnailDamn, I wanted the other one.
>>545828338Gay pride.
>>545912504Yes, because I'm not going to give Ruby the satisfaction of views after you made him out to be such a faggot. The context is yours to fill
>>545913385It seems now you didn't read my post in full. Or you're special needs. Either way, I'm not answering your stupid question.
>>545911490>>545911843redpill is most modders are retarded and really don't understand gameplay balancing.the final product of games is the culmination of dozens of professional adults tweaking the gameplay for thousands of hours and performing trials. but people are naive and think they can "do it better". Which usually just means overloading the game with so much shit that it's unrecognizable. See SPV3 for an example.
>>545912448>thing is shit and incomplete >acknowledged by creators as shit and incomplete >NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CALL THE MOD POLISHING IT POLISHED
>>545906773>>545905902Oh yeah heroic snipers I still have my webm of that
>>545913836>appeal to authority
>>545914076it's not appeal to authority you retard. the whole point is that modders think they can improve the sandbox created by dozens of people who have already spent hundreds of hours of tweaking it.that's like buying a new car and immediately gutting it and replacing the engine with a 2 stroke dirt bike engine because it's better "in your opinion"
>>545913719Way to be such a cunt. What is even the point of posting on a messageboard if you're not going to say anything worthy of discussion, and refuse invitations thereof? I read your post in full, and you did not elaborate your idea any further than "go watch old interviews of Griesemer". How about you go fuck yourself and do your talking yourself, because Ruby's own interpretation (which you have not actually critiqued) is itself proof that watching Griesemer interviews is alone insufficient to understand your hypothetical argument. Are you just trolling or what?
>>545913836it's not a redpill if it's the common consensus
>>545914335>they spent longer and did it as a job so it's automatically betterThat is literally appeal to authority, and pic related is directly contrary to the rest of your sentence.Halo 2's sandbox in particular is 99% worthless on any difficulty higher than Normal, and designing weapons that encourage a player to actually use them is not a difficult feat. It's not some arcane knowledge you can only figure out after making a rushed, half-finished title.
>>545914335>modders think they can improve the sandboxYeah, they can>dozens of people who have already spent hundreds of hours of tweaking itWhat part of the Brute AI do you feel was indicative of dozens of hours worth of tweaking, as opposed to indicative of the rush job Bungie admitted Halo 2 to be?
>>545914424This is pathetic anon. If you want people to do your bidding, berating them like this isn't going to work unless they want in your pussyhole. And I'm not partial to axe wounds.
>>545914335Hobbyist car guys know more about cars than most people who actually design and build cars.
Did you know that the Hunters instantly turning 180 degrees in the spam of one frame to expose their weakness whenever they touch an explosion reflects hundreds of hours of tweaking? tweaking on meth, maybe.
I miss it.
>>545912873Ruby pls. I don't have anything against you personally.>>545913907Bad Stamrawman.
>>545915026This is also something worth noting. Hobbyists put way more time into something than a QA team every could, and will pick up on imperfections just by nature of playing a game for 20 years straight. Developers usually aren't even that good at their own games, Bungie sure weren't.
>>545914335they didn't spend dozens of hours tweaking itthey gave a vague description and delegated it to their programmerssee>>545907213
We got too cocky reachicans...
>>545914895>berating them like thisRemind me again who is the fucker who called the other person special needs and kept redirecting them to "read my post in full" as if that hadn't already occured?
>>545915295Not Halo
>>545915295turns out both wokes are just ONI agents
>>545915295Why is he engaging with the mexican catboys?
>>545915394The difference is you're the one who wants something and I couldn't care less as to whether you get it or not. You're insanely defensive right now anon. You could've spent all this time looking for the information yourself but instead you're right here - projecting yourself into a frenzy.
>>545914637unfortunately not common enough>>545914682>What part of the Brute AI do you feel was indicative of dozens of hours worth of tweaking, as opposed to indicative of the rush job Bungie admitted Halo 2 to be?because it's fine. the game isn't unplayable, is it? just because it's not to YOUR liking, doesn't mean it's broken.>>545915026>non-professionals are better than professionalssure thing pal :)you realize it's a lot easier to refactor a finished product than it is to create a new one?>>545915293just because something "wasn't balanced" doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. it clearly worked OK enough in the game after all. modders tend to skew all of the values in the extreme opposite direction. I don't get this argument. Sometimes stars align and things work out OK without needing deep intervention.
Just admit it, anon. You don't know what the 30 seconds of fun means.
>>545915895What's in it for me? I'll remind you that I'm not interested in your axe wound.
>>545915846>appeal to authority
it's called 30 seconds of fun because thats how long until you refund shitlo and buy a better game
>>545915295The Kosher Halo must be utterly defeated by any means necessary.
>>545916084>y-y-you... logical fallacy!! AAAAAAA I'M TELLING MOMokay reddit
>>545916006Just put on the tripcode so I can filter you.
cmon guysIt's Christmas
>>545916271 I accept your concession.
>>545916117That's how long it takes to google 30 seconds of fun original quote before making a rebalance mod.
>>545916391I don't believe for 1 second, let alone 30 that you would have been nice to me if I caved to your demands. Or that you would have respected me for it. Your parents should have told you no more often.
>>545917009Your posts provide nothing of value besides bumping this thread.Thanks btw.
>>545917181Have you googled it yet?
>>545913836Halo 2's balance sucks. We know it sucks. Bungie knew it sucked. Everybody knows it sucks except those that don't play above Normal and don't listen to the development or nuanced game talk on these things. You want to be a whiny little cunt about the silliest of things, no one really cares that much, but at the bare minimum have a modicum of dignity, a mere passage of momentary revelation perhaps, to realize you're just being retarded.
My posts provide nothing of value besides bumping my thread.I'm thankful for existing.
>>545917281Have you? We both know you can't explain what the 30 seconds of fun is in your own words.
/hg/ is woke right, you know this is true
>>545917728Nah, it's soi right.
>>545915801>be a retard>post retarded paragraph>nobody took it seriously>save face by accusing the other party of projection (???)
>>545917421>>545918030The moral of this story is that I was right about you. If society was well and just, your parents would go away for a long time for inflicting you upon the world. You don't actually care whether I know or not, you just want to poke holes in people and drink what flows from the wound. You are the ghoul that walks among us and thirsts for our throats.
What a huge a faggot. So full of himself.
>>545918321>Y-you don't actually care....h-how could you?Yeah I really did just spit in the face of all goodwill. I'm bad to the bone.
This general makes me tired.
Jaime Griesemer: "In Halo 1, there was maybe 30 seconds of fun that happened over and over and over again, so if you can get 30 seconds of fun, you can pretty much stretch that out to be an entire game. Encountering a bunch of guys, melee attacking one of them before they were aware, throwing a grenade into a group of other guys, and then cleaning up the stragglers before they could surround you. And so you can have all the great graphics, and all the different characters, and lots of different weapons with amazing effects, but if you don't nail that 30 seconds, you're not gonna have a great game."
>>545918775Yeah, but did you read Anon's post in full?
>>545918675We need to get the game sessions rolling againThere's nothing to discuss now that both shitfinite and CEM are on death rowI'm glad there's a halofest planned but it would be nice if we could get something before
>>545919537Gears of War 3 will be played
>>545919818Not Halo, sadly.
>>545919537maybe you should just plug in a mic
I will die before I unmute.
>>545920441this is why you will never be on the council
>>545919818>Gears of War 3 will be playedunironically based
There is no council.
>>545919930>Not Ha-ACK
>>545921087AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
someone just got doneBigly so
Reminder that Tom Clancy is also Halo
Wait, Ruby's is a fat fuck doughboy?
>>545921087All I see is latency and someone playing like shit.
30 seconds of fun thats whay she said.
>>545921848Yeah I always cringe when people's avatars look NOTHING like them. His twink anime avatar is short a few dozen kilograms
Why did they have to shove sprint into Campaign Evolved bros....I think we all saw this coming but I wanted to believe in them :'(
Portable 3rd is being played.
>>545922476I don't care anymoreI'm just gonna play MCC
Halo Campaign Balance>CEAlmost Perfect>2Really Bad; Game is a chore to play.>3Pretty good, if a little on the easy side>ODSTPretty good, if a little on the easy side>ReachFine, but a little tedious>4Meh, most enemies are really boring while also being too tanky>5Dunno, but from gameplay footage it looks like a slog>∞Surprisingly Good
>>545922559my friend made a comment like "well we're all going to buy it.."Actually no, can we let this franchise RIP?
>>545922973>my friend made a comment like "well we're all going to buy it..."I'll get it yeah, I still have gamepass stacked up through early 2028, but I'm done getting excited for for or thinking about 343 halo projects
>>545922847To each his own but Halo 2 plays fine for me.It's hard, but on Heroic I can make use of most of the Sandbox and be fine.I agree legendary is more of a slog if that's what you mean.
>>545921087player getting staggered out of melee attacks like a pussy ass bitch is indeed not halo
>>545922847agree with everything, especially 2. People shit on CE's level recycling, but I'd rather play those levels than 80% of Halo 2.Halo reach would be on par with Halo 3 for me if it weren't so repetitive. So many overdone encounters. The first level especially is so bad that it's fully stopped me from wanting to do playthroughs again. I like that elites in reach actually feel formidable.
>>545922847I think 2 legendary has more longevity than ce's or 3's. Meaning you can enjoy it more over time. 3 and ce play largely the same on legendary as they do on normal but 2 legendary is like a different game entirely. new avenues to explore. more than just an achievement for 100 gamerscore. Feel similarly about reach legendary with tilt thunderstorm. game plays completely differently with you having more health to get in close but needing more than just the dmr to make it through.
>>545922476I'm more concerned it's no longer borderline placebo like Infinite.
Can you play MCC games in 4:3 or would it be easier to just download CE and Project Cartographer
>>545927149why?
>>545927197I don't know. That would defeat the purpose.
>>545927328weirdo
>>545927378The jannies will decide your fate.
>>545927539announcing a report is against the rules, Anon
>>545927609Correct but what does that have to do with anything?
>>545925404Maybe for the campaigns it's an actual speed boost for convenience to get around quicker, but with the new multiplayer game it will be a placebo again. And since you can disable it in the campaign for those that hate it, they figure might as well go all the way for the players that do like sprint, making everyone happy. That being said, this is 343, so there's no telling how bad they're gonna disappoint us and pick the worst option possible that pisses off everyone.
>>545924797You are a legitimate retard, Reach has the easiest and fastest to best first level of all time, you can skip past most of the things you are whining about and finish the stage in less than 15 minutes. You don't even seem to realize you don't need to defeat every enemy in every corner of the stage if you don't feel like it.
>>545928309>skipping encountersYou didn't beat the game.
>>545928309>you can just walk past the enemies bro!!that was literally my point. I play games for entertainment not to hold W and occasionally tap M1. the first level is a fucking snoozefest chore. and it's not even a good tutorial nor introduction to the storyyou're a clown
>>545928427>Playing through every scripted encounter every single time like an obedient dog on a leash.You never learned the game enough to be qualified to judge it.
>>545928829You didn't beat the game.
>tried to play h2 on xemu with insignia>game lagsOh man...what is the xbox emulation so bad? I can't even remap the keybinds.
>>545929009No one cares about Xbox emulation.That's why Nintendo gets the best emulators.
>>545928729>Level is waaaaay too repetitive of a slog for me!>Um actually nevermind, level is too fast because I don't have to do any repetitive tasks!You are moving the goal posts you fucking retarded clown.
You're both clowns. Now have graphic gay sex.
>>545929235Reach is so bad that you actively want to skip everything you can because the combat is simply unfun.
>>545929235where did I say it was fast? you're stuffing as many words in my mouth as your mom has black cocks stuffed in her ass.also, why can't supposedly fast things also be repetitive? mopping the floor is repetitive and only takes 10 minutes, but I still hate doing it.>>545929385I agree to this
>how to deal with CE remake haters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=JNpkNYngSvs&feature=youtu.be
All the Cemake had to do was to look like this.
>>545931916This looks like shit.Microsoft death squads WILL be knocking on your door soon.
>>545931772>said the cartel spic that wants sprint in halo just to practice the sprint for the border patrol
>>545931916what mod is this?
>>545932423wat
>>545932397Not so fast.
>>545931916Kino.
>>545911997no I love it, but thats why I want it to die. like an elderly relative on hospice, everyone knows their on deaths door and suffering but they keep dragging it along on the false hope that their just gonna hop out of bed like nothing happened and it will be just like the good old days when we all know its just delaying the inevitable for selfish reasons.
It's kind of funny how I immediately don't take any ESL opinion on Halo seriously not even for the usual reasons but because legitimately anybody that's first language isn't English being a Halo fan (let alone having experienced active multiplayer at any point) is an anomaly, there's so few things I can say that about besides handegg and NASCAR.
>>545931916AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>545933276Counterpoint: Mexicans.
>>545933537Yes but why would I listen to Mexicans anyways
>>545933656This is a Mexican general, Anon.
>>545932623https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3211946647
IP grabber above
He can grab my IP, if you know what I mean. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>>545935880>>545935942it's so I can track you down and kiss you on the mouth
>>545931845>view comments>JJABi can't escape you retards ;-;
I've never understood why so many Halo single-player mods are just remixes, rebalanced gameplay or Halo X in Halo Y. People already like the core gameplay of a particular game. There might be some rough edges but things are relatively balanced in the games. I'm just surprised the mission pack route is so underrepresented.
>>545942291Making a level is much more difficult than just moving around enemies or changing some numbers.
>>545942291>>545944264rebalances are low-hanging fruit. a lot of busywork which autists love. spreadsheets and minor adjustments to feel like they are making something new. It's a bit of a scourge on the community because half the mods are very low-effort asset or tag swaps.creating something new is genuinely really difficult. there's a few isolated examples on workshop of people who have created their own levels, but they're extremely rough. Inferno's pirate ship map is mostly just code-heavy and not really an actual map with complex geography. Even in the Halo: Custom Edition days, a lot of maps used copy+pasted geography from other official maps. Which was actually pretty nice because the art style was consistent. But then there's examples like SPV3 that are just an absolute cluster fuck of digital diarrheaHell, that's why the original COD zombies maps were all just modified campaign/multiplayer levels. Even moon on BLOPS1 started from geography of Paris that was either a cut level or from a different COD, can't remember.
>>545945458That's true for a lot of games, to be fair. They're all something easy to put together, and Halo's tools are not very easy to make something from scratch with.
>>545945458That reminds me the warehouse from CoD4 Pipeline multiplayer map was used again in a MW3 campaign level back then.
>>545945458Yeah but combining levels to make something that feels totally new should be relatively easy. Reach especially takes place on one coherent planet for most of the game with similar feeling outdoor areas that should be simple enough to stich together to create a level that feels new and then you can have a level within a city that leads into an indoor base environment which the game also has enough of that feel similar enough you can stich together to make a new city and base level. Same with Covenant interiors including multiplayer maps. You can create a whole narrative just from mixing and matching existing maps.
>>545945458I think it's fine to reuse textures. Halo 1 in particular is simple and clean. It's entirely new encounters and situations that are appealing. I don't know much about Call of Duty, just a tiny bit of 1-4 and the one with Kevin Spacey in it.
>>545942291>>545944264>>545945458Pretty much all this. On a difficulty scale, modifying an existing level is playing on Easy, but making an entirely new level from scratch is playing on LASO. It requires a decent amount of knowledge in how BSP geometry works, aswell as extensive knowledge in a 3D program of some kind. Back then, the Vidocs showed that Bungie used 3DS Max. Nowadays, though, Blender is what's mainly used atleast, in all the tutorials. There's also other factors, those being:>Texturing the entire level, which is a headache all on its own, especially if your using original stuff, then getting those textures to show up in the editor aswell as the game itself is a tedious job all on its own.>Testing the level extensively to ensure there isn't something you've missed, like a bad seam that lets you fall through the level, or some material fuckery that doesn't play well with MCC, or just unexplainable crashes in general>Exploits that could be used in MP, such as geometry seams that the player could stand on, OOB exploits, etc.God fucking help you if you're making a playable mission of some kind, too, or even worse: an entire campaign. A simple MP level isn't too difficult, but with a mission, you have several other hurdles added onto it, those being AI, BSP swapping, voice acting, cutscenes, even MORE testing, ensuring the level is stable/optimized, the occasional unexplainable crash, and just scripting as a whole. Also, by far the biggest issue of them all:>Putting in all this effort and time, then putting it onto the workshop, only for less then 10 people to download it in it's entire lifespan, and half of those people just tell you it sucks, without any actual details as to why it sucks. There's also the large possibility that a MCC update will break the mod, forcing you to work on it again.TL;DR, Custom levels are a passion project, requiring intense dedication, for very little in return, aside from personal satisfaction.
Come, Jega, Tremonius. These are the last nine days of Halo Infinite.
Man, what if the new multiplayer Halo game is the same exact deal with Infinite, where they over promise and then on release we get an unfinished, rushed product that takes 5 years to get to a proper release build and we get drip-fed updates along the way. I don't think I can handle another Halo Infinite-esque live-service, bros...And remember, this is 343. While they claim to learn from their mistakes and take player feedback, they never actually do learn and ignore all feedback given to them. I don't feel so good about this.
Cortana made it past the qualifiers for Queen of /v/!
>>545948981I want to make Cortana my scream queen.
Should've been Buntana.
>BuntanaYeah, that's a man.
>>545948868>what if
>>545949579You're in violation of the Spartan Code.
>>545947934>There's also the large possibility that a MCC update will break the mod, forcing you to work on it again.Not anymore lol.Making multiplayer anything for MCC is not worth it unless you have a friend group to play it with already or are an eceleb, because nobody is playing that shit on their own.
The real Buntana.
>>545948868You can literally play Infinite right now and have fun doing so instead of complaining about hypotheticals, and in a week will have double xp forever since you zoomer autists need a pointless number to go up to feel good about anything.
Surely our girl can beat Rouge the Bat...
>>545948868They are going to cut most of the game modes and focus on three at most, because most online games now operate with a small suite of modes instead of a big suite and Infinite 1 did not explode in popularity with a big suite. They are going to cut map editor, because it's not a feature many players use and Unreal Engine will allow them to churn out maps faster. It will be free to play with no campaign, this frees up the campaign to do something different mechanically if they want to and doesn't dilute or confuse the marketing of multiplayer. The game will have sprint and ADS. The game will focus on seasons, cosmetics, battle pass and leveling up. They might increase their focus on competitive. These are just the trends.
Real Halo Infinite hasn't been tried.
>>545952512
>>545952632This. I want the Halo Infinite that was advertised in this trailer:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmdb-KmlzD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yha-AViqBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdREDsuimFE
>>545952957Remember that video of the behind the scenes with the guy that was in charge of making that trailer? The dude who clearly loved Halo under Bungie and I can’t remember if he was like an intern there fo a while or something like that. That was the was the only time 343 sounded like they understood Halo. of course he wasn’t actually in charge of anything but that trailer and then lost his job soon after
>>545952772Without a map editor they avoid a lot of points of controversy too. People can't really be critical that community maps play better if there are no community maps. They can't be critical of community churning out maps faster than professional developers. There can't be any controversies over commissioning maps. Most big games don't have map editors either and so the new community they hope to bring in will probably just view it as whining from a niche. Because they won't understand the benefits and it's not a feature they'll have any interest in using.
>>545951787No, I just wanted Marines to be able to drive vehicles in campaign. Same with bots in mutliplayer, but also be able to add more bots and have a BTB match when the playlists are dead. I hate battlepass stuff, such a massive waste of resources, it's not real content. We need new weapons and vehicles, not more unicorn helmets and ugly color combinations.
>>545952957>>545953138>>545953496They really had me after those trailers, man. For a brief moment, I had forgotten that these were the same tools who made Halo 4, failed the extremely simple task that was MCC, and then openly lied about Halo 5's story. I truly believed we were going to make it. This time we would finally be going home.And then he sprinted in that fucking gameplay reveal and it all came crashing back to me.
>>545953949You WILL accept other players exclusively using unicorn bubblegum cotton candy cat and bunny ear samurai rainbow crossover non canon armors (also you can’t escape the colors in team battles because there isn’t red vs blue anymore). You WILL PAY 40 dollars for normal looking armor and default colors from previous games. You WILL accept lack of collision and physics. You WILL be happy. This is the price you WILL pay for it being free to play live service (8 months between inconsequential updates btw (: )with a large sustainable population of 1200 concurrent players and bottom of XBL charts.
>>545953949Wait, Marines can't drive vehicles in Infinite?
>>545955247Marines were a very late addition to that game, Anon.
>>545955324Which is funny because they were my favorite part of the whole game.
>>545955247Nope.
>>545953949The game has more weapon variety than any Halo game ever has, and no the grind for variation bullshit in Halo 5 doesn't count. Infinite is the only Halo game with actually fun Forerunner weapons as well. Just admit you are a miserable fuck looking for excuses to stay miserable.
>>545955178I know this is an unpopular opinion but I don't hate the absence of RvB at all and think the outlines are fine. Letting players show off their custom color schemes in multiplayer isn't a bad idea at all. What IS a bad idea is that color schemes are locked to the shitty coatings. That is completely indefensible. How much were they charging for that shiny purple that came from the nail polish again?
>>545953949>We need new weaponsYes fill the game up with even more mid-range rifles and short range weapons that do 3% more damage than the starting AR if fired under a blood moon on a Saturday, GOD I NEED IT.It would have been nice if they shat out at least one of brute shot, concussion rifle, plasma caster, or grenade launcher but that's it.
>>545955324The ones from campaign or bots in multiplayer?
>>545955605Nah you're full of shit. The weapon variants in 5 were better, and the only good Forerunner weapon in Infinite is the Cindershot.
>>545955647>How much were they charging for that shiny purple that came from the nail polish again?Most of the promo stuff was dumped onto the exchange, so technically 0.
>>545955647> How much were they charging for that shiny purple that came from the nail polish again?If Infinite multiplayer was actually good I would have bought the nail polish. That was so hilariously tone deaf I still can’t believe it’s real.
>>545955717Brute shot I agree, it is the signature Brute weapon with no real equivalent in Infinite.
>>545955954Right but how much was it before the exchange existed?
>>545955906One good unique Forerunner weapon > No good unique Forerunner weapons.
>>54595604720 bucks in nail polish.
>>545956196Twenty fucking dollars for glossy purple.
>>545955647I’ve always been in favor of seeing Spartans armor coatings in the pregame lobby like under Bungie. And with outlines, I don’t like needing overlay for a game to make sense. Not nearly as bad, but I think of the necessity for this new version of Halo 1 to have hit markers to see if you’re hitting your enemies. Without it it’s hard to tell if your shots hit. With the original 2001 version it was completely unnecessary because of the way Elite Shields reacted to shots and how bloody the game was. You had natural in game visual feedback in addition to audio feedback.
>>545956448They should have sold patterns and effects like that, while letting people customize the colors to be whatever.
>>545955647>I know this is an unpopular opinion but I don't hate the absence of RvB at all and think the outlines are fine.It's objectively wrong. Outlines are barely functional, literally they are just not bad enough to not be overwhelmingly distracting but they make it incredibly hard to actually make out what the fuck you're shooting at. Like it's actually actively damaging to the value of armor customization even because unless the fag you're fighting has reindeer antlers on or some shit they all just look like a vaguely Spartan silhouette. But take when you're trying to shoot some fag out of a Ghost or Chopper or figure out how many passengers are in a Warthog or Falcon and you can no longer tell where the fuck the vehicle ends and Spartans start.
>>545955647I can’t tell the difference between an outline and a shield. That is bad game design.
>>545955717>brute shot, concussion rifle, plasma caster, or grenade launcherThose are the types of stuff I wanted but instead we got the DMR and Carbine. I'm surprised we even got a fuel-rod instead of another scoped weapon. I don't know why they bothered with the Avenger. Even the sticky detonator which is mostly useless would have been fine because of its unique function in the sandbox. And I don't know why the couldn't do Borderlands-esque stuff with the weapons like they did with 5, that stuff would be perfect for Fiesta and silly customs.>>545955605Halo 5's Forerunner weapons were more fun than Infinite's. Infinite's forerunner weapons are so forgettable. They should be power weapons, they're too weak.
>>545956552>>545956625Having had a moment to ponder this, I've changed my mind. You guys are right. Outlines are ass.
>>545957089Blessed post. Welcome to the right side of history.
>>545957089Outlines are ass, but custom client-side team colors are a good thing.
>was gonna play the last shitfinite update for shits and giggles>turns out the game is just softlocked on PC and keeps you in a perma loop of the game telling you to "sign into your xbox profile" despite already having done that with the login pop upback to MCC it is then
>>545958252what game is that even
>>545955991I actually think it's an untapped market. And it helps that one anon identify the femboy halo bf he wants. Make the catboy ears exclusive to the next one.
>>545955647>that shiny purple that came from the nail polish again?Post THAT image
Set colors are superior, but it should be Red vs Green, not BlueYall are not ready for that convo tho
>>545960421this
>>545960516B-BUT THE CULTURE!
>>545960421>>545960516Hopefully Halo 7 (Multiplayer Only) corrects this!
It's Red VS Blue, not Adam and Steve.
>ruby's rebalanced is good>because>b-b-b-bbecause it just is, okay?!
>>545965595This but unironically.
How the fuck did these 343 mongoloids make it so hard to mute squeakers and Mexicans Jesus FUCKING Christ
RETVRN
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
So the Halo 1 campaign remake is just that, the campaign and nothing else?
>>545966261ODST had ammo pickups.
>>545966981ODST is 16 years old, Anon.
>>545886884
>>545966961Yeah, but you can play 4-player co-op now. There will be like 3 or 4 extra missions too and some returning weapons from other Halo games. But yeah. Just campaign. They will be making a separate multiplayer game, probably free-to-play, while you have to pay for the standalone campaigns.
>>545967551>They will be making a separate multiplayer game, probably free-to-play
>>545967551That sounds... iconic and is giving me... chills...
>>545927149Forced
>>545958415halo ultimate firefight mod
>>545958252>ultimate jeetslop
>>545971379>lvl 1 racist thinking he's funnyPathetic
>>545971513How's the weather in Stamford?
>>545973190Gold Elites were so fucking coolI don't like the infinite version with the horn
>>545975998I still don't like that each elite rank has unique armour.
>>545976485Gold Elites had unique armor in CE
Never forget what we lost
>>545976952Spec Ops use the same armor as Zealots
Halo is dead.
Halo is saved.
Halo is a walking corpse
CTF plays best in Halo 1 because it flows better between attackers and defenders. The compressed average/ideal killtimes combined with slower TTK after Halo 1 places more emphasis on getting good teamshot angles than your individual role within a team. Being able to drive vehicles while running flags enables incredibly bold and aggressive big team plays. Flag at home to score adds a lot of tension to the game and it also means you can't just aggro out flag caps with no care put into defending your own. Very fun mode.
>>545991389>Being able to drive vehicles while running flags enables incredibly bold and aggressive big team plays.This is not good.
>>545993125Defend more. Those plays are high risk and punish teams that aren't defending.
>>545993428>Those plays are high riskIt's not.and dying is meaningless since vehicles and weapons respawn extremely fast. For the defenders, it's RNG bullshit because of the Pistol's spread. And the Ghost love tap makes it all even worse. The only reliable way to fight it off is either camping with a Rocket Hog (not fun for attackers and defenders) or stuffing pathways with vehicles.>Defend more.I shan't.
>>545993726If you rush into a base with defenders you are going to die significantly more often than you succeed. If vehicles were some kind of low risk cheat code for flag caps then CTF games in Halo 1 would last five minutes and that's the only strategy people would do.>campingThat's what your hard defender is supposed to do. The flag and the area it's in is their zone of responsibility. Your flexible defenders play slightly further out.
>>545990848Needs an original map desperately
?
>>545996525don't worry about itJust post halo
>>545996581The elites just tolerate sleeping unngoys apparently
>>545996719Elites and Grunts have a big brother-little brother relationshipBrutes would kill grunts for sleeping on post
Halo?
>>545996870"no"
>>545996870I'll never forget how proud they were over the customization in this game. They openly bragged about it. You can tell it's where most of the development effort went, and that's saying something because a lot of it just looks dumb.
>>545997093Customization options is Halo are fine but somewhere along the line we lost the plot and it became too big of a focus. It was always a nice little side thing, never a reason to grind out the game.
the coveted morning discussion
>>545997273is beautiful
>>545742839https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ3G1fp4UTA
>>545997218
>>545997340I saw this in my recommended yesterday. Will watch later. Is it fun at least?
>>545742839Reach a good shit
>>545997340eh
>>545997340>>545997417buy an ad
>>545997273kino
>>545997417I dunno. I also got it recommended. >>545997273Blinded.Dumbstruck.
>tards will complain about this being improved
>>545997628Nah, I mean I won't at least.I'm a huge Two Betrayals cuck but I'll be the first to admit the entire second half of the game needs some heavy revising
>>545997628The Library would make a good Invasion map
>>545966261That's one powerup and ammo.
>>545997819Halo 3 does have a lot of water now that you mention it
>>545965595I like how he reworked some environments, they are less barren, and more AI vs AI stuff or allies in some parts.
>>545997819explain in non-pedo terms
>>545997340>>545997417Holy shit I saw it in my recommended as well. I didn't watch because the preview clip looked like they were just standing still in the one shot throughout.
>>545997902¿que?
>>545997819I'm not a Hater but the Reach logo is fucking gross
>>545997417I have a bad habit of posting videos I barely watched, just skimmed some.I just post the link to see what happens.
>>545997906I've read that Halo machinima are slowly becoming a thing again. I was never really a fan of RvB but i enjoy watching random Halo machinima when it shows on my feeds.
>>545998308Marty, They're killing the innmates!
>>545998126>but i enjoy watching random Halo machinima when it shows on my feeds.Then you might like this one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPbQll3DRYw
>>545996463morning minto
>>545997169>but somewhere along the line we lost the plot and it became too big of a focus.I can point out exactly where. Reach.It's funny how so many problems of modern Halo can be traced back to that.
>Halo Infinite has a “10 year plan”>final content update is next week, just 4 years into the games lifespan What the fuck happened?
>>546001316It launched in a utter dumpster fire state and that was that. You don't get second chances with this sort of thing, not without significant investment and effort at least.
>>546001441My favorite part in Infinite's history was when they made a trailer showcasing all the stuff Infinite has now, and listed off a bunch of Halo-specific modes that nobody on the outside would ever know what they are. The only people who would know what Husky Raid are play 5 or Infinite.
>>546001617I think it's really funny that this games reputation is still and forever will be "piece of shit that charged you $10 for blue".
Oh wow Kashiiera brought Halo 3 CE backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcwEuh0EgKA
>>546002742Fucking A/B testing.
>>546002742Fucking go or don't holy shit. Is this the 3rd time they've done that "okay I am leaving goodbye, but maybe I'll be back idk"?
Do you guys like Halo 2?
>>546004241I go to say yes but then I start thinking about all the stuff I really don't like. Still a CEboomer I guess.
>>546004241I like the ideal of Halo 2 - BRs on Lockout, Midship, Turf, evenly matched teams for flag wars and one flag/bomb on the big boi launch mapsThe reality of Halo 2 - SMG starts on pungent turd maps like Gemini, Ascension, and Ivory Tower, and lopsided big team lobbies marred by quitters - isn't so great
>>546004241a lot like every halo
>>546004241It has some things I like, but I can't really get into it as a whole. The lack of damage indicators and the BR's scoping mechanics annoy me any time I go to play it.
>>545991054>Halo is a walking corpseHas been for over a decade
>>545997340Buy an ad.
>>545997628>implying it will be improved
>>546004724images you can hear
>>546009006aaaiiieeeeee
smashing elitescrashing jackalsbashing Brutes
The next game will be called Halo ForeverYou heard it here first
>>546010058can't wait for the batman memes
>>546009902>aaaiiieetiny aaaiiiee
schlorp
>>546010214waaa
>>546004241>Do you guys like Halo 2?It's the best Halo to play through from start to finish imo
>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE>SCRAPESCRAPE
>>546004241>Do you guys like Halo 2?No. It's the worst Bungie game. But it COULD have been great, and that's annoying.
my tierlist goes>SHalo 2>AHalo: Combat Evolved, Halo 3>BHalo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach>CHalo Wars, Halo Infinite>DHalo 4, Halo 5: Guardians, Halo Wars 2, Spartan Assault, Spartan Strike>FHalo: Fireteam Raven (and I love Time Crisis)
>>546010829good rankingsbad reddit spacing
>>546010829Switch 2 and CE and it's literally mine
>>546010829>reddit spacing>2fagPost hands.
It doesn't actually sound like "wort wort wort"But yall are not ready to admit you're swimming in the net yet
>>546011565I say wob wob wob
>HE STUCK MOMMY!
>You look NiceWho was she talking to?
>>546015569probably ChiefShe was referencing the Mk 6 I think
>>546015569almost certainly the Chief
/Halo 2 General/
>>546015831ummmm, BASED?
>>546015831
>>546016062dual wielding is the most halo thingNot having it is a bigger crime than not having playable elites
Now that the dust has settled, was it worth the wait and hype?
>>546016313not in the slightest
>>546016184How do you make dual wielding fun?
>>546016313The reveal itself?No.The overall event had some neat stuff tho
>>546016442It's fun by default in Halo 2 so just do more of thatI love making BR purists seethe when I surprise them with plasma/smg
>>546016442increase smg accuracy/range
>>546016313pozole!
>>546016313I want in with literally no expectations, expecting it to be bad, and somehow miraculously was still disappointedSo I guess credit where credit is due, that is impressive
>>546016618>BR puristsHeadshot meta autism was only exacerbated by how half the sandbox was gutted by dual wielding. Removing the BR/Carbine/snipers from the game doesn't change the fact that Plasma Rifle+SMG isn't as fun as a lone Plasma Rifle in CE.
>>546016313For me the thing I'll always remember is how badly they fucked up the revealWe actually had zero footage leaked beforehand and yet they were late to their own party and everybody just found out via the automatic Xbox Store update.
>>546016618Do you have any clips?
>>546017259yes but i'm at workWill post some later :-)
>>546017256thisit was classic 343They just can't fucking execute to save their lives
>>546017256>start the event with a fucking shitfinite pvp match >it runs overtime>all the websites and videos went up automatically>"reveal" it all on stream 20 minutes laterIt was impressive.
they're called Halo Studios sweetie
>>546017482the fat black guy was also extremely obnoxiousDon't care that he's black, I'm just describing him
>>546017482The main event stream also got stuck cycling through fan art
>>546017256this
I did like the part where the guy started screaming about how he was a huge Patrick Mahomes fan and the guy just told him to be quiet
>>545997391I sleep like thisMostly because, we'll, if you know you know
>>546018054Halo!
>>546018168delete this
>>546018168AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>546018104soul
>>546018104this reminds me of the Windows Media Player H2 skin
so much for "infinite"
>>546018472>>546018472>>546018472
>>546003043Average BPD sluts are like that. >>546017256Lmao this. Everyone slowly got the memo.
>>546017575He was hype as fuck, I love him. Cast him as Sgt Johnson please.
