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Cadia? More like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
ROCK AND STONE!
>>545789674tuesday.....everything changes...
It's gonna be abysmal dogshit isn't it.
BY THE POWER OF THE HORNED RAT, I SUMMON FOR THE DARKSISSIES THE MOST BORING AND SHITTY CLASS THERE IS! THAT’LL TEACH YOU TO RESPECT US!
>>545790135keep your expectations as low as possible and you'll never be disappointed :^)
hope theres a chainglaive in the new class update
>when you wanna oink but you can't afford it because you're slavgroid
>>545791179I need me a power spork
>>545790135Nah, I don't think so. Arby was a big change and very positive for the game, whatever they introduce next will definitely make the game change as well.
>>545791179Chainglaive? Bro, you're getting dual chainglaives >>545791310Dual power sporksYou name it and they'll double it. The ganger will be lit af
>>545791193Maybe you should try finding a job, Sasha
>>545791193I don't think slavgroids really care about looking good. I mean, have you seen them? They look like indians painted white
>>545791193Hey man can you stop making me want a cigarette? They're expensive and I don't wanna walk down to the gas station, shiet.
>>545791575Nyet
>>545791508>Dual power sporksFor eating the rations twice as efficiently, right?
>>545791179You mean 2H chainaxe finally out of datamine hell
Bound by doody
The new class will have all of the datamined "missing" weapons as it's unique weapons. It's going to be incredibly good weapons by poopass abilities.
We built this cityWe built this city on XENOS BONES!
>>545786908Yeah I didn't think about that I havent played fnp in forever cause I got used to 40s. Blo + paul is good for staggering them but you still need your team to deal with them. If you really cant stop getting dogshit teams you will have to become the main damage dealer ie krak vet or flame pyker and learn how to stay alive even with retards not helping you enough. I'd recommend psy and guiding your retards with bubble. If you can get a team that has potential being a book stunnade zealot with full rev speed has value as an enabling tool if you stick with your vet and psyker and keep them alive as long as possible>>545789326maybe not the answer you want to hear but it is really just about positioning and learning how to abuse sliding to the maxx. Never just stand out in the open, let hordes come to you around cover, push up with your teammates.
>>545792349why does he need so many rockets……………………….
Do you prefer dumdum or headhunter on your recon las?
>>545792349what if he needs to scratch his nose?
>>545791858They will even toast the rations for you
>>545792559Because he's a weak nigga who needs to cope with becoming a slave bitch to chaos.
>>545792601I like Headhunter
>>545792559For the Xenos bones, dummy.
>>545792110>bound by doo- *CRUNCH*
>>545792349baller artwork
HEADHONTING
>>545793158THIS ONES FOH CACADIA
>>545793363HOLD STILL, 'ERETIC...
>>545792298Like what, stub rifle and long las? Fuck, is it gonna be ratling after all? But Jo said it's impossible.
>>545793848It won't be
>>545792601dumdum because I don't like the spread on slower firing recon, it makes me miss heads, and with faster firing one I don't really need headhunter to reliably apply fire.
>>545794164but why would g*nger get sniper weapons and vet not?
>>545793848melta, 2h chain axe, long las
>>545792349Have to love the over the top-ness of 4 barrels on hand
>>545794261The sniper weapons will NEVER be introduced
>>545795096They would simply be too strong.
>Dude the imperium has exterminatus tools, why do you need an autogun-wait hold on dont behead me nurgle cultist AHHHH enforcers help he-ACK!!!!
>>545795319Image a hecksnore except no charge time but also no bayonet
Did you pick your skitarii name yet, Anon?
>>545794261Vet would also get them. Vet will also get relic blades and thunderhammer
>>545795826Say-Gex-6/9
>>545795801That sounds good tho. GIVE IT TO ME. My only complaint with the Hecksnore is the fucking charge time making shooting normally feel like trash with the "on-release" shooting controls.
>>545795826>yakub
>tanking minotaur against wall>die to a pink rat because three people are still too stupid to clear everything else while the monster is 100% distracted
>>545796296>putting yourself against a wall>minotaurdeserved and you're retarded
>>545795574>>545796027Kek’d + true>>545795826I’m torn between having an appropriate lore accurate name or something funny
>>545795826>8-888.88
>>545795826DROPTABLERejects
>>545795965My proposed fix is to make it fully charged by default when you aim>full>shoot>empty>refills by itself>shooting early will do less damage
>>545794261>but why would g*nger get sniper weapons and vet notVeteran isn't the sniper class, he is just the "ranged" class.Ganger will be designed so where you can build them as a sniper, berzerker or a saboteur.Sniper for sniping and stealth.Berzerker for stimm maxxing and being drug addict.Saboteur being an explosive crazy hoodlum like Junkrat from OW.
>>545796418>completely trivializing any minotaur encounter is le badis this bait?
Ganger is an anagram of n*gger
>>545797342People that annoy you
>>545797342Shut up, ganger
>>545797060Getting punted is a good thing in a minotaur encounter, just saying
How are you supposed to kill crushers on MKX relic blade, the single target combo is beyond dogshit.Seems easier to just spam light combo under special but that takes years
>>545795826i better get something good or i will seethe
tac axe zealot is very enjoyable but i suck at clutching. the flamer seems like the solution but i just get overwhelmed by specialists while trying to set the armor on fire, but when i take something good against specialists then i just get run down by bulwark + reaper combosi think i should just work harder to keep team alive to avoid being in this situation
>>545796418>She doesnt know
>>545798370>minotaurShe knows. She wants it.
>>545797867>How are you supposed to kill crushers on MKXPower on, push stab -> light -> light stab, repeat. Aim for the head.Duellist counts for head stabs.>>545798276Flame grenades solve that problem in aurics. Havoc gets a lot trickier with tac axe, I didn't like it very much when I used it, and ended up preferring the relic blade.
uh oh looks like the vet forgot to bring kraks to the nurgle disco!
>>545794261Ganger will get sniper weapons all right:Needle Rifles (assassination weapon that fires a highly toxic shard after boring through the target's armor with a low visibility laser) for DoT and a Crossbow with explosive rounds for exploding humanoid elites
>>545797867The simple way and the one with the most stagger is heavy, heavy, light, repeat
>>545796663Kek>>545796921Didn’t know we had a fatshark dev here
>>545799449
>>545789674I have the vinyl of it. It’s so good.
>>545795826Alpha-H1713/2-14.88
>>545799449>chinese subs
>>545799449>
>>545795574the enemy cannot use the exterminatus if you disable his hand>throws knifesimple as
>>5457958261488niggerdeath
Mister E here, I'm allowed to leak ONE thing from the upcoming update and it's a heavy sword buff
>>545802453Is it finally allowed to kill carapace in less than a full minute?
>>545802818The dmg type has been changed and now it instakill crushers but struggle against poxwalkers, we asked Hank for the balance
>>545803380excellent joke pablo
3 more threads until Sister's of Battle is revealed.
>>545803620Thank you Jean-Mustafa!
>>545795826Megatron
>>545789892>>545792110
>*carries the shit out of your team*
>>545795826No but I picked a Sororitas name.
Cadia?More like CACADIAAAAAAAARGH GROAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH!
>>545800528i'm jellyyou got the rest as well?
Reminder that Emma Gregory (voice actress of Minthara from BG3) has done audio books for many Warhammer 40k stuff including Sisters of Battle.She WILL be a voice for Sisters of Battle. Trust the plan!
>>545804863Minthara my beloved
No one will buy a fucking ganger
I will, deluxe edition
you don't have a soul so you don't count
I'll buy 3 gangers
Half the mission handler voicelines need to be re-recorded if it's skibidi
>>545806542Half the mission handler voicelines should have been re-recorded for Arbites.
Now hear this: McNurgle Happy Meals will be dispensed to strike teams after the mandatory penis inspections.
>>545805924everyone will buy litteraly anything with how stale the fucking game is
>>545806751They're not anywhere as bad as "you idiots don't understand technology" nearly every mission, to a Mechanicus
>>545807007>calling an Arbites disposable fodder and a reject
>>545807114Bro your character creation?
>>545807007Bro your character creation?
>>545807003>Content is limited so you can't do much about it>Cosmetics are limited so you can't do much about it>Activities are limited so you can't do much about itGrim
>>545799449>Eyes not censored Doxxing you as we speak. Enjoy prison.
>>545807541Disgraced Stallone Dredd =/= Mechanicus forgetting basic tech stuff
>>545804191Cute!!! Hope that DH goes easy on her >>545804863Looks ugly
>>545807114Arbites are just elite enforcers and his whole existence is make sure the local planet pay the taxes
it's fucking over
>>545807849>disgraced
>>545806023>>545806248tsmt
>>545806863wtf!!!!?????? based mommy brahms we love u!!!!!!!
>>545807964>looks uglyDummy
As much as I don't really care for the aesthetic, a tech priest or adjacent character could have fun soulful mechanics. Like especially as it relates to the objectives. For example the auspex solving things would be faster for him but the minigame would be replaced with something that requires actual math. You could come up with something cool like this for most objectivesThe only cave-eat being that the objectives are piss easy and fast to begin with, so maybe this doesn't matter at all. It'd still be soulful and cool though. On that same token, Ogryns auspex shit should be even more simple (think round shape into round hole) but take a bit longer
>>545807007Tech Adept will just be lower ranked than Hadron so she can bitch at her juniors for being inept shitters.
whats the role of the flamer in darktide?i really dont get why id run this wep, i think its cool but it sucks ass, doesnt do damage
>>545807964>Looks ugly
>>545808501>On that same token, Ogryns auspex shit should be even more simple (think round shape into round hole) but take a bit longeralso, ogryns should audibly express their frustration when doing them. Like you're doing the toddler minigame and your ogryn goes>Grut... how am i supposed to know this..>anyone can help...
>>545808683Applies brittleness to everythingKills bosses decently wellClears FUCKHUGE hordes with infinite cleaveIs useless in aurics because you need something to kill snipers since your retards never do, knives aren't reliable
>>545808683Flamer mileage scales with horde density, which means it feels terribly inefficient on anything under Aurics
>>545808683Useless outside of Havoc
>>545808683Inferno staff at home for when you don't have a psyker.
>>545808683Once you're playing high difficulty with an entire room full of reapers + crushers + bulwarks + a boss somewhere in there, you'll come around to the flamer. Main problem is that you then require someone else in the team to be very diligent at killing specialists because your specialist killing ability is nothing.
>>545808501Why did you hyphenate caveat like that
>>545808729>>545808418Seethe lariancux
>>545808890it's much more useful in aurics where you get ammo though
>>545810034No. It's more useful in havoc because enemies survive long enough for brittleness to matter. Also veteran aura provides enough ammo. If you run out, that's a team DPS issue.
>yfw at least 25% of people here who used to cry about smite psykers being annoying are now probably spamming purgatus
>>545808501>the minigame would be replaced with something that requires actual mathNot accurate to techpriests though, they unironically operate shit through prayer and incantations, not math.
>>545810786NTA but their prayers and incantations are math, though.
>>545811004Binharic screeching isn't math
can a slavgroid translate this? the subhuman was not having a good game
>>545795826>G3orgeDroyd
>>545811065you gentlemen are completely finished
>>545805293frog better
>>545811065It says: >kakne-to bbl kohyehhble, rocnoaawhich translates roughly to >the pleasure of being cummed inside
>>545811052What you hear is screeching, layperson.What I hear is a melody that is the signature of the Omnissiah's presence.
>>545811004>recite the blessing of undamaged circuitryVARLETS>pour sacred unguent of lubricationFIX >chant the mantra of POSTTHE>ignite incense of antistaticDATA>speak the Omnissiah's prayer #134920, line 2480, verse 984, in Martian binaric INTERROGATOR>execute the ritual buttonpress of activation
>>545811065google translate is a thing
>>545811642It literally just translates to a poeticized instruction manual full of uneccessary steps and mysticism because they don't know how anything works any better than your average imperial citizen. These are people who literally exsanguinate guys and mix their blood into oil because they think it makes it holy and record shit on tanned human skin. They're getting the same minigames everyone else gets if they get in the game at all.
>>545811065There are many translation tools that exist.
>>545811065He called you retard, my limited mutt friend
>>545811967Please report for anaestheticless servitorization to repent for this most foul of tech heresies, layperson.
>>545789787>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j5EEfDA8bE
So what is the next class gonna be and how is it going to be disappointing
>>545813421Ganger. It just won't be very interesting compared to literally anything else they could do.
>>545795826rollin
>>545811891>>545811973 I was too lazy, work faster next time.
>>545813421The obvious choices are Techpriest or Hive Ganger by virtue of them already being on the planet, like the Arbites. Expect the same tears of butthurt like with the Arbeetus >NOOO IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE FACTION>NOOO IT'S TOO MUCH OF A VETERAN OVERLAP>NOOO IT'S TOO OVERPOWERED>NOOO IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE
>>545795826>To roll a dee sixty-six, roll two dee sixes, one after the other - the first represents tens and the second represents digits, giving you a result between onety-one and sixty-six.
>>545814237I doubt it'll be a full on techpriest since those aren't very disposable. Maybe a skitarii.
>>545810774>complain about smiggers being useless, doing zero damage and spreading out waves making clean up take longer>don't complain about infernicunts because they are useful and actually contribute to the teamMakes you big think.
>>545795826okay
>>545814509Arbites aren't really disposable, they're part of the warband because the Provost is losing control of the situationSo a low ranking priest like an rookie Enginseer or a basic bitch adept would be fine.
>>545814509There will be enough expendable, low ranking Techpriests to go retake the shit the heretics stole. That's also why they'll be the pet class with combat servitors.
>>545815201Arbitrators are disposable. They're not difficult to train. In fact they require very little training at all.
>George Droyd is filteredbut what about Kirkinator?
>>545789892>>545792110I laughed at these posts. Out loud. lol for short
>>545797867You're using the wrong relic blade
>>545815737Rat hands typed this post.
>>545815321On the very scant chance this isn't b8, and for anyone who doesn't know why, Arbites are not common beat cops like Enforcers recruited from the locals. They are recruited from the same place that trains orphans of decorated personnel into Sororitas, Commissars and Stormtroopers. They are also the very last line of the Imperium's authority before a planet is completely overrun, and their jurisdiction is just below the Inquisition's, so they can execute heretical governors and even radical Inquisitors if necessary.It is way easier for an average Joe to become a low ranked Techpriest than a low ranked Arbitrator.
>>545804125>faithful Kruber, ever by my side...
>>545815321Nah, they're Schola Progenium products, the same as Sisters, Stormtroopers, and CommissarsStill expendable, I suppose, but nowhere near to the same level as the conscripts or skitarii
>>545814654>smite does zero damageDisproven.>makes games just last longer and drowns everything in particle effectsJust like purgatus.
>>545816443>>545816505Every strike force deployed on Tertium is quote unquote "expendable", including the Arbitrators taking part. Certainly they're not intended to be fed into a meat grinder in human waves, but they're not important enough to actively protect either. Guaranteed the equipment they carry is more valuable than they are.
>>545807003True but I'll be salty about it.
>>545816902Nah you're wrong, Arbites are less disposable than your run of the mill rejects.>"Really? What's the proof?"You (the player) have to pay for them. Hehe.
>>545816902And that would also include any Techpriest who isn't important like Hadron or Kayex in maintaining the warband's operational capacity. They are also just cogs in the Omnissiah's machine like the rest of the warband.
>>545817249Again I doubt we'll get a fully fledged techpriest, a skitarii would be more likely. It's a ganger though.
>>545817357>SkiitariI think it's going to be a lowly (Here)tech adept. Actual techpriests are too high tier, and skiitari seem too cybernetic.
>>545808501>fatshark should focus on the real meat of darktide, the minigames
>>545817357"Fully fledge Techpriest" is very unspecific. A Techpriest who just has metal limbs instead of organic ones, and a cybernetic monstrosity like Cawl can both be "fully fledged Techpriests".
>>545816859>Disproven.Only thing proven is you watched an e-celeb vid and think you smiting pox walkers is valid. >Just like purgatus.Wrong, Infernus does damage with infinite Cleave, and actually does good damage. As for particles, stop playing on a potato.
>>545795826Rolling for ganger name
>>545817613A Magos is right out, basically
>>54581770150 Aquilas
>>545795826Im using two alpha elements so that im 0% beta
They should add Ministorum Priest and Imperial Psyker and Imperial Guardsman and an Ogryn
>>545817663Nah I ran a dedicated Smite build back in the day to test if it's as bad a coopg said and it turns out it tops scoreboards ez. It doesn't work anymore because the new tree has too many talents useless for it.>potato PCI don't understand what this has to do with everything being bright blue.>>545817846A Magos is Astartes tier anyway.
>>545795826Rollan
>>545818293>A Magos is Astartes tier anyway.Yeah, but a lightly augmented Enginseer for example wouldn't be considered unusual, I expect especially if there's an active interest in Moebian Steel if they decide to give that greater importance going forward.
Would it be a fair buff to zealot to double/triple the ammo capacity of the flamer and reduce its ammo consumption? There really is no reason to bring it currently when every team is going to have a psyker with an equivalent weapon but with unlimited ammo and additional utility from soulblaze and flayer.
I'll say it then - soulblaze needs a cap and the suicide bomber talent of the psyker needs to be gutted.
>>545818293>Nah I ran a dedicated Smite build back in the day to test if it's as bad a coopg said>turns out it tops scoreboards ezOh, I see. You're an elf player. Makes sense now. Smite has always done midling damage, but the biggest gripe is that it is beyond annoying to play alongside. No one plays Auric/maelstrom/havoc to fight mobs that are standing still, doing nothing. You are forcing others to have to play a match by your rules, and they are the gayest rules you can imagine. Smite could do double the damage of infernus, and I'd still dodge your ass because it is not fun to play alongside. At least with Infernus, your melee companions can still fight and engage with specialist and elites.>with everything being bright blue.So you're saying you think it's annoying that a weapon that shoots blue fire and mobs being on fire with said weapon is annoying. Do you also complain about Zealots using flamers? Or is it the blue that annoys you? Because if it's the blue, then you are just in the wrong game because all psyker stuff is tinted blue.
>>545818850The Imperials already have some Moebian Steel and the recipe to make it thanks to Swigger, they just need to actually make more of it in order to win the war, which is hard when the heretics are contesting the manufactorums.
>>545818989More ammo wouldn't make it better, needs better blessings to make it compete with Psykers.
>>545818989No, flamer is fine, you're just playing with complete fucking retards, or don't know how to use it.Psykers don't want to run the brittleness blessing, zealot is a better user of it. It's tremendous brittleness and suppression support, and subs in for horde clear if for some reason your team is dogshit and doesn't have enough DPS.The actual issue the flamer faces is that the current season of havoc has massively inflated numbers (freshly buffed armor, rotten armor spam, healer spam). It's not that flamer is bad, or needs an ammo buff. If you just bring a veteran, you don't even need ammo pickups if your team doesn't suck 20 cocks.If you and plebbitors want to cry and whinge about how flamer needs a buff, I'll just abuse the fuck out of it if/when fatshark is retarded enough to listen, but it is not needed.>>545819147It already has some very fucking strong blessings, but I do wish the retarded burn explosion thing were actually useful. In its current state it doesn't even practically do anything lol.
>>545819114It's not so much the recipe, it's all in the foundryplexes themselves, which are better than standard manufactorums in output quantity and quality. That's something the mechanicus would want to study in greater detail or just keep out of the heretics hands.We're getting a ganger though. Sadly.
>>545819338>flamer is fineI never said it was bad, I said that it's completely outclassed by the psyker meta build which every team has one of now. And since zealot sucks dick now, he could be made at least somewhat relevant if he had one particularly useful unique weapon.
>>545819338>Psykers don't want to run the brittleness blessingShitters it sounds like. Which blessings do said shitters use instead?
>>545819084>soulblaze needs a capOnly thing it needs is armor modifiers
What if ganger comes with a heavy stubber that can also be used by veteran, zealot, and arbitrator
>>545819574Crit and strength. The strength blessing with a zealot providing brittleness has obscene DPS.>>545819567You didn't read the entire post, also see above.Also soulblaze + flamer fully stacks.Zealot provides plenty of value to a team, it's just, and I'll repeat myself as many times as necessary, most zealot players are complete and utter dogshit.
>>545819084>implying soulblaze doesn't already have a cap>implying anybody ever takes that useless trash talentwhat did he mean by this
>>545819742Then thanks for the heavy stubber? Still wouldn't make me play as a ganger, they'd have to have some incredible fucking lines for me to bother running one.
>>545819485The manufactorums are nothing special, the Admech simply has a vested interest in keeping them out of heretic hands because it's heretical and working with the Inquisition is the most efficient way of getting rid of them.
>>545819742What if you shut your cracker ass fucking mouth?
>>545819767>Zealot provides plenty of value to a teamlol
>>545819973>most zealot players are complete and utter dogshit.This includes (You)
Fuck their broker teasetitties. What a stupid fucking name.
>>545819872They are though? They're explicitly said to be worth three standard manufactorums in terms of output, and put out higher quality moebian steel than the substandard stuff that's been used for centuries since the foundryplexes were lost(??). Finding one was a big deal.
>>545819767Blaze Away? Doesn't sound great, but I have not tried it. Could be a little better than I anticipate. But I'd be keeping the brittleness, as I LMB with Inferno a lot, the pushback and stagger is fantastic too + Empyric Shock. I gotta play my Zealot some more, was only playing it a few days ago and I already miss it. Eviscerator + Bolt Pistol, but perhaps I should craft up a good Flamer or Bolter (both of which are from years back, before crafting to made easier). Would you happen to have a Zealot build saved or one you like? Mine is mostly good, but Zealot has always been a class where I'm particularly interested how others build them (assuming not a Knife faggot).
The next class is going to be a cabal agent
>Auric Maelstrom Assassination >take the shield down of the boss as soon as spawns>stimm the Thunder Hammer Zealot with combat stimm>boss dies instantlythere are still people who hate the Thammer
Zealot serves no purpose in the game at the moment. You can make zealot work, but you would always be better off playing a different class. About the only thing zealot is actually good for is clutching due to his speed combined with survivability, but you likely wouldn't be in a clutch scenario if you had picked a good class from the start.
>>545820486Eldrad killed them all though
>>545820326>Blaze Away?Yes, that.It has this weird interaction where the buff lingers for a moment after you stop channeling your right click, which gives you time to partially channel another and achieve 100% uptime without ever dropping stacks.>But I'd be keeping the brittleness,Reasonable, as most zealot players are complete and utter dogshit.>Eviscerator + Bolt Pistol, but perhaps I should craft up a good Flamer or BolterDon't bother with flamer unless you plan on playing havoc, and even then, it's a rather finicky weapon and difficult to appreciate unless you know when to primary fire for stagger/suppression, and how to preserve your ammo.>Would you happen to have a Zealot build saved or one you like? I'm not sharing my havoc build because that'll just devolve into a 2 hours of autistic retards shitting up the thread over it despite being hardstuck in the 20s.>>545820527Such as this retard.
>>545820138The substandard Moebian Steel was made because they lost the recipe, which was found again in Clansneedium Gloriana. All Hadron and the Inquisition cared about was finding the recipe for proper Moebian Steel in order to make tougher tanks in order to break the stalemate, and they are trying to make it in the existing Foundry-plex which is being contested by the Moebian 6th, mostly because they are forced to rely on local production.
>>545818850Yeah Enginseers are common in Imperial Guard armies anyway and I could see one happening to end up among the rejects>>545819574>blessing which makes brittleness this spammableHoly shit I didn't know this exists. Is this why everybody is spamming purgatus now?.
>>545820527what if I told you that this has been true since launch
>>545815201A cop whose job is already to go in beat up citizens as his daily job, is hell of a lot more disposable than a guy whose job is to be understanding, constructing and repairing technology.
>>545820532Thats what they want you to think
>>545820779Cabal Agent, not as a reject, but as a pvp option
>>545820326>Would you happen to have a Zealot build saved or one you like?NTA but here's mine. I prefer to use a boltgun though.
>>545820768Beating up citizens is the Enforcers' job, Arbitrators beat up organized crime, cults, unruly nobility and sometimes Inquisitors.
>>545820705I wouldn't necessarily agree that this was always the case but sure for the majority of the time yes. He definitely is the most poorly realized of any of the classes and never had a clear identity, with his role changing frequently as changes were made to him. Now he is basically a strictly worse veteran.
>>545820768>beating up citizens is Arbites daily jobActual Arbites are of a higher tier of importance. What you're referring to are cannon fodder enforcers. Sure, Arbites would and could beat the shit out of you, but that's like having a doctor do janitorial duties.
>>545820504eheheheh bonk
>>545821159>Arbies are so violent they have to delegate beatdownsBrutal
>>545821274MANDATED EDICT: PHYSICAL CORRECTION
>>545820704>>545819574Reminder that the tooltip is wrong, it puts up to 20 stacks of 1% brittleness, which stack with the more common 2.5% brittleness stacks.
>>545821014Arbites do both.Local enforcers are often retarded and corrupt to the point that arbies have to get involved regardless so the retardation doesn't spread.
>>545820504I remember seeing this picture in the 3rd edition witch hunter codex. Its still the most hardcore picture of witch hunters and sisters of battle art I've ever seen. Especially with that sister with the rods pierced through her eyes.
>>545821825Oh nuuuu :(
Im surprised that fartshart didnt use nurgle beastmen, uhhhh pestigors, i think they're called hell even SM2 did it
I am once again asking for someone to make a mod that gives psyker an actual pair of breasts
In the grim derp of the 42nd millenium there is only wacks
>>545822448The issue here is that Pestigors don't actually have 40k models yet, while Tzaangors did so they could be added to SM2. If GW introduces Pestigors to the Death Guard army list, we might see Pestigors in shopclick
>>545822609stop posting this picture already. I hate black templar fans.
>>545822609I look like that and I dance like that
>>545822448>even SM2 did itBecause Tzeentch's Tzaangors are an actual model on the damn tabletop and part of the thousand sons regular army.The Death Guard codex does not have beast men models.
Zealot doesn't have a nade recharge.Zealot doesn't have serious ranged bonuses.Zealot has a shit ton of conditional nodes.Zealot is the worst melee class.Zealot has the worst or second worst survivability despite on paper being able to live forever.Zealot can with some builds kill a boss slightly faster than a veteran.It has fallen off a cliff.
My Slaangor wife/husband :)
>>545823205skill issue
>>545823205Please keep psyopping retards into thinking zealot is bad so I can become a hideously overpowered god in havoc once more.
>>545821825>Announcing a report
>>545823392>hideously overpoweredSo balanced with the other classes. That's all I ask.
>but zealot can bring brittleness flamer to support the purgatus psyker and bring stun grena-Second psyker with rending trauma, or taunt ogryn with brittleness push.>but zealot can bring book and also deal decent boss dama-Shout veteran with kraks and gold tag.>but zealot can just not die if my random shitfuck teammates I have to carry go do-Friendless issue.>N-N-NO YOU'RE BAD RANDOM ZEALOTS ARE BAD THE CLASS ISN'T THE WORST OFF RIGHT NOW IT'S ANECDOTALLY GOOD IN THIS 1% SITUATION
>>545823612Yes exactly like that ;)
>>545823612Current major balance patch veteran and psyker are... maybe a little stronger than previous major balance patch zealot was, but a large part of that is the meta that the retarded modifiers force. CDR stacking and chorus spam with only a couple seconds downtime was absolutely disgusting, as was stealth zealot with CDR stacking.Arbitrator isn't overpowered, it's just the easiest to feel strong as. Ogryn is mostly strong for BLO rumbler, and that is kept in check by ammo economy. Both classes are only there out of necessity because the OP classes do kinda need support.>>545823715Pretty good bait, 8/10.
>>545819973You don't, but a good one does
>>545823459I didn't say I was reporting him on 4chan :)
>>545823715Zealots have relic blade. Seethe and cope about it.
>>545823715No class can use an eviscerator as well as the zealot can. Stay mad.
>>545824272>Zealots have one slightly above mediocre weaponHey that's great. Other clases have good weapons.
>>545824468The fact that damage is literally the only metric you base a class' value off of really shows just how incredibly retarded you are.You're also going to lash out with some idiotic cope that anyone who actually plays havoc 40 knows to be extremely stupid, yet at the same time somehow bait other retards into agreeing with you, if not literally samefagging to achieve this.Stay hardstuck. YWNBATS.
>>545824787>YWNBATSYou will never be a trans sexual?
>>545824906Hopefully
>>545824906>pretending to be something you're notI mean anon is already halfway there with pretending to know jack shit about the game while constantly spouting the most basic of hardstuckie retard takes.
>>545823715Zealots are indeed the weakest class right now but I'd still gladly take the current balance & meta over what we used to have before the big talent tree rework. You know, when everything other than vet was useless? We have it so much better now.
>>545821553Is that factoring in the tier of blessing?>>545820985I'll take a look when I'm done with my co-op party (not on Zealot at the moment). Which guns do you use?
>>545795826SEKS-69420
>>545824787There's nothing a zealot brings that's worth while.Only thing that was good was chorus, but they gutted that with the CDR nerfs. So yeah, no shit that it only leaves damage as the only metric to measure him by.
>>545824636>still here
Both ogryn and zealot are the weakest classes currently.
>>545818012None of those things are true>>545818293>A Magos is Astartes tier anyway.Not really. Some are geared for combat while others aren’t>>545814509Your average tech priest is very much disposable, it’s not like they’re all equal in worth>>545810786>>545811004>>545811052It varies, some of it is math while some of it just outright technosorcery that can’t really be explained
>>545808683I use flamer and it's pretty decent at clearing hordes but that's pretty much it, that being said I don't know what else to use?should I be using the bolter?
>>545826012>Both veteran and zealot are the weakest classes currently.ftfy
>>545825873>that it only leaves damage as the only metric to measure him by.Yes, in your hands.
>>545823276>black skin/furSEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
>>545826198you are nonwhite
>>545826198>>545823276Kill yourself, furfag.
>>545826268Yeah.
>>545816902They’re expendable in the sense that technically everyone is expendable, but there are different levels to this. You would a dozen Skitarii who can be mass produced easily enough before you send someone who spends their entire life training and are equipped with some pretty decent tech.
>>545818293>A Magos is Astartes tier anyway.A Mechanicus equivalent to a Primaris Astartes would be a Skitarii Master
>>545826389Ew
>>545826069Veteran's reliability against carapace/unyielding makes him good in current meta, and mandatory in higher havocs. Once crusher HP gets nerfed again he'll fall behind again.
>>545826371>blood on his assHas he been shitting blood before getting shot?Yes, I know why, don't presume me innocent
>>545826389Why are you brown? Go take a bath you smelly bastard.
>>545826371>he still thinks its the 2000'sYou lost the furry war. Furries won a long time ago. >>545826389based
>>545820486nah those were gay and dumb
>>545819893don’t talk to your betters like that
>>545826486>EwMore like yum.>>545826561Clean your room.
>>545821194>>545820504I know most people talk about the Crucis but has anybody tried the Ironhelm recently? I just played a game on damnation with it because I don't have the balls to try it on Auric. It's comical how powerless I felt.>>545808683It's good at hordeclear but so are 90% of other weapons. It used to be the premium zealot ranged weapon for bosskilling, but it got powercrept out of that role.It does get better the higher difficulty you play because it usually has the problem of being overkill for the specific encounter.
>>545826509Current crusher HP would be fine, what isn't fine i spamming like 10 of them at once.
>>545826389Nice. >>545826561I can already tell you're bad at games.
>>545823276What the hell is it shooting? Purple jizz?
>>545826786>It used to be the premium zealot ranged weapon for bosskillingFucking when, when the game released or something? Almost all of the damage is burn. Infernus Dumdum lasgun/pistol has always been, and still is, better in every way at that specific thing, while also dealing significant direct damage.
>>545821014None of them beat up Inquisitors. They need to got a Judge house and have their actions sanctioned if they want to carry out such a thing. >>545820504I only recognize like 2 of the things here but I want all of them
>>545822885there is literally nothing wrong with the image faggot stop crying
>>545826561>Black Templarfag calling anyone else smellyOh the ironing.
>>545825887>>545824130point stands you kinda have to be careful with your wording when you say that lol
>>545826993>I only recognize like 2 of the things hereLook closer damn near all of them are SoB, Repentia or some flavor of Inquisition
>>545822448What do you mean ”even”? No shit the game with the higher budget and more fantastical setting/enemies/protagonists has more whacky shit
kneel
>>545827335>needed help
>>545827335>aimed in veteran player blasting zoomer music at 100% volumeI swear they're responsible for at least half of those.
>>545826838>give enemy 2x the HP without nerfing spawn frequency>entire meta shifts around countering the enemy until nerfIt's ragers all over again.>>545826989>when the game released or something?Yes. It used to be good but not great for a while after that. Nowadays it's just meh at it.
>>545826838>>545827549Only quickplay and havoc are affected by this.>wholesome chungus rations for the lil'uns recoverers forcing angry ogryns, which spawns massive crusher waves>havoc being rotten armor, spamming crushersNormal aurics really do only spawn like 3-4 crushers at a time, they're not really a huge issue, just very tanky.
>>545827268I mean even SM2 used beastniggers as goons
one less bedtime
>>545819767why do you need crit chance on soulblaze which cannot crit?
>"SCARY LOYALISTS">"We've good Reddit!"
>>545827959You can crit.Crits with flamer and flame staff apply 2 stacks of burn instead of 1. The max amount of stacks is pretty substantial, and building them up is relatively slow considering the fast pace of the game. Enemies spend less time at low stacks, and more time at high stacks, so you get a lot more DPS.
>>545821553Yeah I found it weird that it shows max 16 stacks, I know for a fact it's capped at 20% and not 40% like voidblast.Didn't know it stacks with other sources though, need to test this when I get my electricity back
>>545828103>with crits you stack 15 soulblaze 0.005 second faster than without themwow!>and building them up is relatively slowno it isn't, you spend most of the time maintaining max stacks, not building them up
>Realise I've been using the Bolt Pistol on every human class for months>Decide to give a DBShotgun meme build a try>There are now 10 specials alive at all fucking times that I have to tediously plinkGenuinely what happens to these people when I'm not there to stop the magic red lasers from randomly snuffing out their lives? Do they just think fire bursts out of the ground on Atoma?
>>545826435The point of Darktide's setting is that the Inquisition is so short on manpower they're looting convicts from the local Arbites ship to do suicide missions, and the Arbites themselves have no choice but to join in. That leaves whatever AdMech running the Hive's infrastructure and whatever gangers they've recruited into informants as possible strike team agents, because all other allied personnel are too busy fighting the heretics in a conventional war.
>>545828643Arbites with shotpistolTry it
>>545828628You are immensely retarded.
>>545828910I accept your concession
>>545828095All true.
>>545828643>Genuinely what happens to these people when I'm not there to stop the magic red lasers from randomly snuffing out their lives?They go down, leave, and find a new lobby with hopes of being carried by the likes of you.Unironically.The amount of times I've had 3 completely worthless retards is staggering. They wouldn't survive for more than 5 minutes without someone carrying them, and the few times they do survive, it takes them 40 minutes to complete a 15 minute mission.
>>545828648Nice
>>545829047He's right and you're wrong
>>545828834I can't really find a place for it, I wish it had more ammo in it somehow, that or just make it have way more range. Like it's not a good sniper but you can't afford to blast it into crowds of elites without reloading constantly. The shield feels fairly useless on a class as tanky as Arb. I see that it can do decent monster damage... if you can hit all headshots on spazzing monsters in a real game then you're better than me.
>>545828648Nice.
>>545827821Dummy
>>545828648satisfying
>>545828648sex
Has anybody tried the Ironhelm recently?
>>545829654No, there are limits to what I'm willing to tolerate.
>>545829389>The shield feels fairly useless on a class as tanky as Arb.It lets you safely duel gunners and snipers without fucking up your aim by sliding, so it's easier to use. It lets you block ranged fire if you just finished your slide but are about to eat a shotgunner volley. It lets you block overheads. It lets you block a sniper shot without wasting a half second finishing your slide, and thus go for a clutch revive you otherwise wouldn't be able to get.There's a number of small benefits that make having a shield pretty useful. The shotpistol has more value when used with a melee that doesn't feature a shield.I'm married to my shield maul so I'm never going to bother with it, but I do appreciate just having a shield in the first place.
>>545829654No we played our Maztica campaign years ago
>there are xbox players that reached havoc 40 but I can barely get past 30how?
>>545830138I may be retarded but I think the higher your fps, the more damage enemies do and the faster they move. But I'm probably retarded.
>>545830268Sometimes the game feels like it's in slow motion so you might be onto something.>>545830138Skill issue.
>>545830268lol>>545830138>how?Havoc (darktide as a whole) is more about strategy and game knowledge than it is about ADHD twitch execution. You can pull off almost all of the important shit with a controller just fine.The biggest unfair advantage PC players have is actually being able to use a mod that lets you inspect players before inviting them, and not wasting time or attempts playing with complete and utter retards. Not even cheat mods give you this big of an advantage.But console players can always just join a PC player and leech off the host's ability to discern good players.
>>545828742Yes. I agree with all of this. I was speaking generally when it comes to the expandability thing.
>>545830576>The biggest unfair advantage PC players have is actually being able to use a modThis, people don't realize how massive of an advantage it is to see enemy healthbars and prioritize what to kill.
>>545829990Goddamn that looks cool. Back when stuff was cool
>>545830889Cute way of cutting off the sentence, but I explicitly addressed cheat mods.I don't blame you for understanding just how utterly retarded the sub-humans in the 20 bracket are, because it also boggled my mind. Apparently it's relatively frequent that some complete retard tries to bring green or blue curios and unleveled weapons with meme perks/blessings into havoc.Having 1 whole player as opposed to 1/3 of a player that also wastes resources is infinitely more powerful than having a cheat mod telling you where to shoot.
>>545821553I suppose enhanced descriptions fixes this? My tooltip is fine.And yeah, it really does stack with 2.5% brittleness.
>>545831141>I don't blame you for understandingfor not understanding*Seriously, hardstuckies are a completely different brand of sub-human. You should try reading sentiments of players stuck in the 20 range. It's incredible.>>545831184You want to dump warp resistance, not quell speed. Reaching high peril quickly is good. Dumping peril quickly is good. Some autists even minmax their staff to have <10% warp resistance.
>charge>stealth>increase dps for x seconds>area of safetyThere is NOTHING stopping fraudshark from copying interesting mechanics from, say, overwatch or marvel rivals and yet...
>>545831330I know what I want to dump, thank you and kindly fuck off.
>>545831417He's right and you're wrong and a seething little sissy
>>545831520>tranner takes>right about anything, everlol
>>545831570Huh? I don't pay close attention to what says tranner like you apparently do
>>545831570Even a broken clock is right twice a day.>>545831417You should never dump quell speed. You swap to your staff to quell after generating peril with your blitz or melee or whatever the fuck. Quelling peril is how you recover toughness. Even on builds that "don't care" about peril, dumping warp resistance is still better because you reach high thresholds faster for certain talents and blessings.You can be a little Dunning-Kruger faggot about it all you like, but that doesn't conveniently change the truth.
>>545831417>aggressively wrongYou're in the 20-25 bracket, aren't you.
>>545768334I use F Savant because the male Savant is a nigger and the other options are either a split personality funny quirk chungus or just plain heretical "Corpse Emperor" faggot. I deleted my first Psyker because she was a F Loner and I actually liked the voice lines in general but that shit is just retarded and immersion breaking, and I say this as someone who doesn't mind "Blood for the Emperor, skulls for the Golden Throne!" even if I wish it was a rare easter egg, not happen like 50% of the time.
>>545831417Stupid faggot bitch
>>545831939>deleted a character with silo'd resources when he could have changed it in the barber shop instead>racist>tribalistic about the most inane thingRoom temperature IQ.
>>545832298Post hand or return to reddit immediately
>>545832298Can you niggers not go 5 seconds without trying to start an argument?Grow up
Weapons down. Fight like it's graveyard shift.
>>545831828ironic how you mention dunning-kruger when posting the most brainded midwit take everyou don't maintain high peril by being stuck in a build-quell peril limbo, you do it by keeping peril generation as low as possible and quelling with talents
Armored Core 40k when?
>>545832627>Fight like it's graveyard shift.With shovels and covered in dirt?
>>545832645You keep posting the most peak Dunning-Kruger takes, anon. Even after having it spelled out for you every step of the way. At this point you are either trolling, or genuinely too retarded to listen to your betters.At least I can rest easy knowing niggers like you will never even make it into my havocs because you're too fucking dumb to even reach EFL2 because you can't even follow simple instructions.
>>545832645*actives scrier's gaze*
>>545832826I don't want instructions from people who need to be carried all the time, lol
>>545833010>he thinks it's possible to solo havoc 40 like auricsYou're downright adorable.
>>545833010He's right and you're wrong, thoughClose your mouthOpen your earsNow is the time for you to learn because you have nothing to teach. Namaste
>>545832298>deleted a character with silo'd resources when he could have changed it in the barber shop insteadNewfaggot. But yes, in retrospect I should probably have just kept the character since it was even before they added currency sharing, IIRC.
>>545832627They need to get a room and fuck it out
>>545832652Good Titanicus game will probably never happen. Maybe Knights at best.
>>545831939But female Loner doesn't say all that very heretical stuff male Loner says.She whines about unjustness and questions zealotry, generally very accusatorily like she wants to vent and not to have a real debate. Things that would get her shot by a commissar for ruining morale, but that's not the situation our characters are in.
>>545833105>>545833224(you)
>>545833708We accept your concession
>>545833652They say the same lines
>>545833652I played her and she does. Maybe not anymore but she absolutely does say "Corpse Emperor" a whole bunch, enough that it became annoying.
ive about had it with slayers and grailtards
>>545834003Why do you love warrior priests?
>>545833850They do not say all the same lines. The downtime banter lines are not the same for sexes. The>"For the Emperor"... I'm sureshared cheer is the only truly bad line she says, and that's not even that bad.>>545833951She does not say that.
>>545834304So this is the famed "broker"?
>>545834636I hope she brokes my penis with her pussy if you know what I am saying
Just hid that filthy postDon't need that in my life
>>545834705I don't catch your meaning
>>545832652Terrible idea. The pace of combat for the Mechs in 40k is that of MechWarrior, not AC. You want a first person game, limited weapon options, limited frames. It'd make for a good single-player game with allies in a maniple that you could customize and order around. Perhaps a multiplayer PvP mode where it's four or five 3-man teams in large maps, lots of terrain, trying to guess where enemies are.
>>545834954I will blow raspberries on that cute belly and then we'll have tons of borderline heretical sex to make sure our local Schola Progeniums have enough students
I am gonna blow my brains out of the new class doesn't come with at least 4 new weapons. Please, God. Be interesting. Be fucking interesting. The Arbites just being shotguns and mauls made me so sad. Yes, they're strong, but fuck me in the ass is there a lacking of variety. Give me something, man. It especially sucks since the actually neat Arbites weapons are not good.
>>545835273>rusty metal shiv>rusty metal pipe>improvised shootah (nailgun)>trusty shootah (autogun variant)here's your ganger weapons, bro
>>545835273Arbites weapons>arbites shock maul>maul and shield>shotpistol and shield>exaction shotgunThat's 4
>>545835446Cosmetics: you can make the rusty pipes shiney
>>545835273>Needler>Crossbow>Polearm>Flail
>>545835874>>545835446Ogryns still haven't gotten a non-scrap cosmetic for bully clubs
>>545835874>metal pipe wrapped with parchment and a purity sealTHAT'LL BE 800 AQUILLERS MY DARLIN'
>>545835668I mean that the weapons should have more variety. With the Arbites it was just mauls and shotguns. Since they can't be assed to even put in new shopslop for the Arbites either, I am sort of assuming that Fatshark has no intention to do anything with the class for another 8-9 months because they're going on their twice annual 3 month long vacation in a few weeks. Their incompetency sickens me, genuinely.
>>545836070To be fair, bully clubs are literally improvised weapons cobbled together by an Ogryn as a hobby, they're not official weapons that have some properly constructed pattern.
>>545836532You can say the same about pickaxes, but they have bespoke and pristine cosmetics. Even just a welded flange mace cosmetic would be a big improvement to the bully clubs
>>545836734Pickaxes are common equipment used all over the galaxy with numerous patterns and designs depending on which Forge World shat them out. Bully clubs all come from a single Ogryn's imagination and spare time.
>>545825318Samefag here. Finally done. Here's what I've been using. I'll resume playing some Zealot next. Pretty over Ogryn and Psyker, so back to Vet and Zealot as usual.>>545820985How good is Martyrdom generally? I don't recall if I've ever bothered with it, even long ago when the skill tree became a thing. Is it say ill-advised for Havocs?
why come noone use crusher on arbites
>>545836991That is right, but a welded flange mace is still pretty simple when compared to the very artistic gold eagle head pickaxe but would still represent the hight of ogryn blacksmithing
>>545837338It swings slow and it fucking sucks
>>545837338Because the arbites weapons do similar things while being faster and they kill crushers with no effort
>join random mission>three bots
>>545811065>boys, I think that's it
>>545837563>>545837580But if you charge it every attack its good
>>545837713Not by a longshot
>>545837748have you thoroughly tested it
>>545837847Very, very thoroughly
>>545837954you've induced some seething
>>545837338Because people only like the weapons with the highest potential for the lowest skillFun and variety need not applySame as it ever wasIf youre good with it though have fun riding the high of outperforming people with a "bad" weapon, always a treat when someone thinks youre insane cuz youre doing well without hyper meta
>Watch videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mZsFoPUFE>Add Hotshot LasgunOK>Add Grenade LauncherMeh>Add Heavy Bolter for a fucking Ogryn while stating bullshit inaccurate reasons for why it "works"(it doesn't).>Add Meltagun but don't give it to Veteran and make it Zealot exclusive>mfwAbysmal dogshit opinions
>>545837151>backstab damageTake disdain (they fixed it finally), and then take enemy within, enemy without.And skip blood redemption.
>>545837713The crusher sucks still.>>545838184
>>545838142You are right I'm going to continue using it
>>545838184Ogryn should get heavy bolter because it's cool.Also it's not hard to use a heavy bolter for ogryn, it would just work like ripper guns.Burst hipfire, full auto but in braced mode only.
>>545838184https://youtube.com/shorts/uBuh9gWgOEs?si=bJ5fRV5rasMlVdCt
>>545838184Let me guess, he also thinks the SM2 meltas is how meltas work too when they actually fire a beam.
>>545838416The feeling of doing shit damage against carapace unless you are able to land seemingly endless spams of push attacks to the head ruins any joy that this weapon might bring
>>545838532No. Just give him the damn autocannon like it actually uses in lore. Darktide is a lore friendly game.Ogryns will never use a goddamn heavy bolter.
Is it impressive to beat a damnation with only two players and dead ai
>>5458386782/4 not me and 2 others
>>545838678Not to me, it isn't
>>545838626When he said they were energy shotgun, and that sisters of battle are generally melee fighters I wanted to die inside.
>>545838837It's amazing how many secondaries Darktide and SM2 attracted
>>545838198Ah so they fixed Disdain, yeah, good, I prefer that if it actually works, then. Never cared for backstab in general. Next I'll craft up a bolter and relic blade (bolter is old and yet to even try relic outside of meat grinder). I'll read up on Zealot's page https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235 here too. Overdue to do it for Zealot.
>>545834045i dont but theres still a good chance they will still be useful with their rez ult if they are smart enough to take that talent
I interpreted meltas to work like a hand-held version of a HEAT, if any of you know tank warfare/ammo at all. Basically an instant flash/jet of heat, like a shorter and thicker ranged laser that's a flash and not a beam as such. None of the 40k games that I'm aware of do it right in my interpretation.>inb4 totally off anyway
>>545838671Ogryns don't use autocannons in the lore either.So no autocannons for ogryn either, since darktide is lore friendly :)
>>545838837>sisters of battle are generally melee fightersRetards like that are one of the reasons why I want Sisters to be the next class so those ignorant zealotfags secondaries can be made to shut the fuck up.
>>545837151They buffed martyrdom to the point that it's competitive with blazing piety. You can now reach max stacks with two wound curios and you get more buff per stack than before, you can reach silly levels of damage resist and attack speed. As long as your teammates don't pop a burster in your face.
>>545839692Sister of battle would just be a melee class.It is what fatshark would do with them 100%
>>545838837>in tabletop they are single-target short range anti-everything weapons>in dawn of war 1 soulstorm they are anti-everything constant beams (probably a visual thing for clarity of what's going on) with medium range>in dawn of war 2 they are medium-short range anti-everything "beams">in lore they seem to be a very slightly conical beam than can obliterate a space marine from a good distance away>SM1/2... melta is a heat-wave "shotgun" with the range of a weak stones throw
>>545839643>Ogryns don't use autocannons in the lore either.>So no autocannons for ogryn either, since darktide is lore friendly :)Fucking moron never talk back to me again. :)
>>545838671>Just give him the damn autocannonAchlys mk2, use that.
>>545839747>Sister of battle would just be a melee class.wrong. They would be able to do melee but they wouldn't be a melee specialist.
>>545839872not the same thing
Just 2 (TWO) more sleeps until the 6th class is revealed!
Not long now until battlesissies rope themselves
any leaks or good guesses on next darktide class?
>>545840724Skitarii Hypaspists
>>545840724Servo-skull
>>545840724The only hint we have is that the class is somehow related to the current event. I'm guessing sisters as they are the ones best equipt to deal with both plague infestation from rations and also the starvation riots with arbites.
>>545840724Anything is better than the SoBait. From the started I roughly guessed skitarii. Some sort of 'ganger' is an interesting idea too but I sort-of don't think it'd fit that well, that's like some necromunda shit isn't it?
>>545840724whatever the hell a "broker" is
>>545838184>melta exclusive to zealotUnfathomably based, mr e might not be so bad after all.>>545838626In the lore, melta weaponry has been depicted as:>cone>beam (continuous or not)>ball>toroidal projectile>deluxe flamethrowerWith various range, usually short. Always the same effect though. Shit's hot.
>>545841049Broker is just a project code name
>not wanting it to be sister of battlegenuinely what's wrong with youwho hurt youwhy do you hate cool things
>>545840724Gangers, any other guess is just coping.
>>5458406701) It WILL be Sisters so seethe and cope.2) If it somehow isn't Sisters (unlikely) I will simply shrug and buy the new class regardless, fatty.
3 days
>>545840924>>545840960>>545841010>>545841016>>545841049>>545841130>>545841152a..am I going to have to pay for it? ;_;I didn't pay for dog one and havent played since it released
>>545841130adamant was cop codename. it was tangentially or spiritually related
>>545841202If you want to play it, you will have to pay for it
>>545841016>"Anything is better than the SoB">"some sort of ganger is interesting!"Dogshit opinion. >>545841202Why the hell would they give it away for free? Of course you're going to have to pay.
>>545841146>who hurt youYou went too far with your bait, anon.>>545841202...yes. Why would you think it'd be free?>;_;>dog oneWhat's wrong with this general at this hour.
>>545841202of course, and plus tip if you don't want to look like a basic bitch
>>545841010>>545841049
>>545841216It probably has something to do with Swagger
>>545841276ratlings already been debunked
>>545841248Learn to read, ragebaiter.
probably going to be wyrmwood agent
New Class.
>>545841146There's only 3 kinds of people who don't want Sister of Battle.1) Butthurt Zealotfags probably with the Male Judge voice who don't understand Zealot nor Sisters. 2) Skitarii hopers hoping3) Tasteless idiots
>>545841373truths change. ratling got rebunked
>>545841460>"I will require maintenance once we have exfiltrated to the mouringstar...less I become...broker..."
>>545841489Trying too hard.
>>545841239>>545841249>>545841253I dont mind not buying a new class, since you can still play with them on your team. Its like a character you found in an rpg that becomes your side kick.
>>545841489sob is simply too high up the powerscaling for this game imo. even ogryn isnt that big of a deal
>>545841579>sob is simply too high up the powerscaling for this game imo. even ogryn isnt that big of a dealDumbass objectively wrong posts like yours only make me hope for Sisters more out of pure nerd rage.
>>545841579a sister is literally just a human woman in power armoryou can just take her out of the power armor, or apparently you can just represent the power armor as +20 toughness over arbites since that's how carapace scaling wentogryns can rip space marines apart with their bare hands
>>545841670>>545841717they regularly and routine push back and defeat heretic astartes
>>545841540It honestly already looks like it belongs in darktide
>>545841489I'm none of the three, I just want battlesissies to get fucked for doing nothing but harping on and on about bolter bitches. Pure, unadulterated spite. Fuck sissies, but most importantly, fuck (You).
>>545841849It's just our resident ragebaiter, anon, and sadly it's working on you.
>>545841202are you a mentally ill tranny? kill yourself, nigger
>>545841758>regularlyNo. >A decent amount of times?Yes. Also you realize that Sisters aren't 1v1ing heretic astartes all the time right? They fight as an army.Thats like saying Imperial Guard are too powerful for this game cus guard armies can and have beat the shit out of Chaos Marine Warbands.
>>545841785I don't see any obvious flaws, though?
i just want felinidsnot for any lore reason, but solely because it would cause a meltie among 40ktroons on a scale i'm not sure we can truly fathom
These books contain "broker"
Goonsissie Gangers, where you at?
>>545841216>>545841049As mentioned before "Kill Broker" is literally just "Death Dealer" using different words, and Fatshark clearly picked that code word to trick retards into thinking it was literal.
>>545841952fatshark will find a way
>>545841849Stay seething.
>>545841938>noyes>1v1ing all the time4 sisters can, easily>guardnobodys asking for a leman russ or basilisk in the party, which is what actually kills marines
>>545841894;_; okay
>>545841983>Inquisitor's handbook>Sister of Battle on the CoverIts all coming together. >>545842107>nobodys asking for a leman russ or basilisk in the partyNo. All they need is a plasma gun, a meltagun, or a hotshot lasgun. GGEZ. >4 sisters can, easilySo can 4 guardsmen dummy.
>>545841894If anyone should kill himself its (You)>>545842110don't say okay
Ogryn heavy weapons pack coming soon(tm):>autocannon (works exactly like a boltgun but isn't one)>multi-laser>lascannon>plasma cannon>multi-meltaWhat else?
>>545842408>don't say okay;_; alright
>>545842409>plasma cannon on an OgrynNever ever.>multi-melta on an OgrynNever ever. Why do people not understand that Ogryns are canonically clumsly retard second class citizens and that some of these heavy weapons some people want them to use are expensive and sensitive pieces of machinery that the imperium would never allow an ogrn to use.The only weapons ogryns get are ones that are designed to be retardproof.
>>545842231>Its all coming together.Mein Führer... Steiner...
>>545842626>"We somehow got 50 to 100 cold traders out of nowhere to fight on the front lines on this planet!"That doesn't make sense. There has to be a good reason why more than of these people are here and fighting on the front lines. Cold Traders aren't common. Its as silly as people asking for an inquisitor/interrogator class or a rogue trader class.
>>545842626>the mourningstar has recruited several hundred smugglers and black marketeers>and it's using them for suicide missions, not buying stuff, that'd be sillyI really just don't see it, but fatshark is retarded so maybe.This is still just basically ganger.
>>545842626Think we'd get some xenos weapons with it?
>>545842787>the mourningstar has recruited several hundred smugglers and black marketeers>and it's using them for suicide missions, not buying stuff, that'd be sillyExactly it makes no sense especially since cold traders aren't exactly that common.
>>545842408Hey, this is anon's mom's boyfriend and i just want to say xe killed xirself just at a minute ago Also i'm black btw
>>545842779I was about to just post the Rogue Trader class at first
Rogue trader would be even worse than ganger
>>545842787The class will probably be gangers working for a cold trader, and the cold trader will be a new NPC on the Mourningstar
>>545842779Reminds me how there are some people asking for a navigator class. Everyday I'm reminded about how so many people have little in the way of logical reasoning skills.
>>545842107>>545842231the humble lasgun is enough>5+ to wound>they fail their 3+ savegg ez
>>545843149How 'bout they navigate they way to some muhfugging bitches
>>545843370gottem
>>545843353Trvke. May Marineglazers be forever mogged.
>>545842626We're on the wrong side of the cicatrix though.
>>545843149A navigator is just gonna be a psyker with evil eye powers, to say nothing of sending them in to fight. It was already on shaky ground having that happen in Rogue Trader.
No wait THERE we go, we team up with T-man
>>545843639>having that happen in Rogue TraderHold up what? You can do that? They're nobles, they don't leave their quarters, let alone the ship, there are treaties! What the fuck!
pvp when?mounts when?fun modes when?
>>545843841You get to drag the fish girl into direct combat, against Chaos even, and she's literally your only Navigator as well.
>>545843841Her house is completely fucked up and you're a Rogue Trader with a warrant that says you can do whatever you want
>>545843956This is the kind of criminal retardation you don't hear about happening in the lore because in 100% of cases, the problem solves itself (everybody dies, usually stranded).
Goddamn. Here we go with the shittery again.>>545841373This. Votann is on the menu.>>545841579>>545841717Ogryns in DT are not nearly a strong as they are in lore like nearly everything else in the game. >>545841758No, they don’t.
>>545844181I'm half sure fucking around with the navis nobilite will get your writ of trade revoked.
>>545844230So it makes even less sense in Darktide because these strike teams are patently expendable, especially given that it's against Nurgle cultists and just hearing a poxwalker can get you infected, to say nothing of merely getting scratched by them. You wouldn't deploy Navigators against that, they have enough problems as it is trying not to explode when charting courses for ships.
>>545832298Your bait is shit faggot shut it>>545833476This>>545832652That would be the only to get me to show interest in that franchise so hopefully soon
>>545841978i don’t get it why would that make them meltdown>>545842020true>>545842231No, they can’t. At least not consistently. A marine domes them before a thought cross their minds.
>>545834824>>545835874Based.>>545837338Learn English.
>>545842626what a profoundly stupid idea>>545842804no, they’re probably going to save those for the xenos class buddy
Putting this on all weapons as a reminder to furries and ratfags.
>>545844446Signed by the Emperor, talk to the hand.She's fine with it, so is the family. Ending cards, not even a spoiler, she starts mutating more monstrously like all navigators eventually do, and disappears from public view.
>>545838671>Darktide is a lore friendly game.It’s not. Or at least not completely.>>545842594Our Ogryns aren’t regular Ogryns so that’s not really applicable here, they can reload and know when to stop shooting which is like 95 percent of the concern when giving them guns.
>>545843639What “evil eye powers” do navigators even have? I’m not aware of any of them being combat capable at all outside of like slowly driving their servants mad when they’re at home in their castles for their own amusement
>>545845332Their third eye is a warp eye, and opening it is extremely dangerous to anyone in its line of sight. Rogue Trader presented this as causing damage and debuffs
>>545845332Tons, it's a very strong class in 2009 RT. Leveling up just the Lidless stare melts enemies and you don't need to consider other weaponry.
>>545845321>It’s not. Or at least not completely.I think just about the only non-lore friendly part is the particular rejects we play as being inexplicably powerful. Four guys should not be killing literally thousands of enemies and returning alive and uninfected from missions against Nurgle cultists.
>>545840724it’s your whore mother faggot learn to read the thread/s>>545841016gangers on NM are way cooler than gangers everywhere else sadly
>>545844497>hearing a Poxwalker can get you infectedI mean you’re right overall but where did you hear this
>>545846243Not him, but I'd say it's more a figure of speech. Where if you can hear the groans of a poxwalker, you're too close and it's too late (assuming you don't have equipment to protect against Nurgle shittery).
>>545846462I thought he was maybe mixing it up with the Nurgle disease that literally spreads through sound but I was curious if there was any mention of walkers also having that in lore or something because that would be crazy
>>545845936Our Ogryns are all clones. That is insanely not lore friendly. Krieger's being clones is extremely verboten but it's ignored because of their effectiveness and having the good sense to keep it hidden.
>>545844497>trying not to explode when charting courses for ships.They're not Psykers. They can get quite mad and corrupted from days on end of staring into the Warp while it stares at them, and generally from getting more powerful at what they do, but that's it. And really it's just them then mutating more. They don't roll badly and pop.If you're making someone without the gene navigate, they will need to get shot pretty quick.
>>545845936Ehh, the last part does have precedent, being extremely faithful can in fact offer you protection from Chaos/Warp effects but there’s a certain line you have to draw with gameplay mechanics like us shrugging off bullets and shit
>>545847907I think it's the more incestuos the House, the stronger the Navigator
>>545845559>>545845673I was more so hoping for lore examples but I guess if it’s a thing in games it’s probably a thing elsewhere
>>545847907They can still get possessed, and when the daemon decides to pop out for a quick hello, it's never clean.
>>545848107They're all mega inbred, but the more powerful houses tend to get more assassinatey about keeping things in the family.I don't think it's been expanded on why more genetic variety wouldn't lead to a better type of Navigator, why is there a need to become a worse type of abomination. If dilution of the blood is a real thing or just general 40k stupidity.The 2009 RT book also has different types of families specialize in different things. Some learn powers faster, some navigate better etc.
>>545847757I dont think they're clones, they said they're vat grown. It's different no?
>>545849531After tens of thousands of years, pretty much every navigator is related in some way, being all cousin fuckers at the least as with medieval europe. They can't risk the navigator gene being diluted by introducing non-navigator blood. There's also a thing where each house protects whatever particular advantage they have by practicing more incest. General 40k stupidity.
Am I mistaken or is there really not a way to mute or disable the vox nonsense? In-mission and in mourningstar?
>>545852120You can do it with a mod (can't stop winning)
>>545852259https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/382This? If so, wonder how I missed it the first time I looked. Will try it out later, thanks, anon.
Darktide: the cope times
>two more sleeps
>>545851837no, its because navigator gene is recessive, any children from human and navigator is always human, so unless you want to lose your interstellar travel, navigators need to breed with other navigators to keep their numbers up
>>545857226To think this could've been avoided if Magnus decided not to be a smartass
>>545857226I am going to singlehandedly breed navigators out of existence.
>>545852120MUZUNGU BALAMUKENO MOKELE MBEMBE *farts*
My PC just crashed and restarted after about 5 minutes of running DarktideMy PC runs Cyberpunk with graphics mods just fineWhat the fuck
Are we blessed by Khorne?
>>545846243>>545846462Not that guy, but from the 9e Death Guard codex, Poxwalkers do literally infect others via their groaning. It's entirely by the Emperor's protection that the strike team manages to avoid getting infected getting stuck neck deep in Poxwalkers.
>>545861854my beloved would never let them infect us
>>545861854I would imagine that's more of a constant release of infection from breathing out constantly. Not le meme sound.
>>545862123It's a supernatural disease created by a Chaos god, it doesn't have to make sense or work like conventional disease.
>>545862265If it was really sound than any world where pox shows up loses by default unless it's a shrineworld.
>>545862265no, they still make sense, theyre still bound of physical limitation of reality in reality
And sound is Slaanesh's thing. Nurgle can't be this greedy!
>>545862335>>545862426Why is this so unbelievable to you, there are literally mission IN DARKTIDE ITSELF where you shut down radio broadcasts to prevent cognitohazards
>>545839815This is FFG dark heresy shit, meaning it will never be added to Darktide because GW and FFG parted on shit terms.So no, no autocannons for you. Closest thing you'll get is the single stubbers.Darktide is lore friendly after all. :)
>normo/stoner friend invites you to play>demotion and then thisCut my life into pieces. And no I'm not good enough to carry that much.
I like how arbites are almost just a straight up copy paste of judge dredd. I'm kind of surprised it's not a legal issue or something
Does this blessing do anything on the basic vet shovel?I think it allows me to stagger maulers on lights and maybe ragers with heavies, which I like because it makes the weapon even safer, is that a thing?
And what if the new class had always been Love and Friendship all along?
>>545866203Geedubz used to make official Judge Dredd tabletop games decades ago, so perhaps they have enough influence with the creators of that to keep their legally distinct ripoffs. Besides, it's not like it's a bad thing for Arbites to exist since they are a minor faction and can attract newcomers to Judge Dredd after they learn about the Arbitrators' main 'inspiration'.
>Event missions are all about SHOVE GOTRILLION MORE UBERNIGGERS IN THEREgetting real sick of your shit fartshurt
>>545866203Like the other guy said, JD is British IP too, I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually got some cut of the pie back in the day, but GW has always paid homage to other popular sci fi franchises, just in such a way that they don’t land in hot water with anyone I guess
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>>545847907Technically true but they can still lose their minds and that’s always trouble>>545849531>>545851837They’re abhumans at the end of the day so it makes sense, their genetics are super fragile what with all the isolation over the course of millennia
rot armor is going away for fart gas isn't it?
>>545861854Ah. That’s pretty serious shit then. Didn’t know even poxxers were equipped with it.>>545862426They’re not. There are literally Nurgle diseases that spread through knowledge of them existing, through dreams, through any number of impossible vectors, up to even infecting literal stars and turning them into diseased masses that bleed pus. Nurgle is serious shit and so is Chaos precisely because you don’t really know all the ways they can get you, which is why even knowledge of its existence is treated so dangerously.
>>545867546Also some of the OG Judge Dredd people were involved in early WH40K.
i though damnation had more diam spawns, guess i'll go back to auric.Burned through my entire stock rolling a good weapon for every type
>>545866203They are legally distinct enough.
>>545869418Isn't tox gas modifier already in havoc?I've seen there being tox gas missions with the (tox gas (tox bombers)) tag on the mission board.
>>545841123Interesting. I've only seen them referenced as continuous beam and maybe flame throwerish. When I played SM2 and saw meltas I was like "aww shit" followed by "ah, shit..."
>>545839807Big (vehicle) melta guns get (or used to get) blast pies on tabletop, which is where the cone thing comes from I think.I do still think you can explain the inconsistencies by some form of beam diffusion setting that lets the same gun both be a beam of fuck-you and a blast of fuck-you.Anyhow, there are still gameplay and other weapons to consider. Right now I'd say the beam Melta would be the best, especially if it was really powerful so you could cut enemy waves in half, but if we were to get something like Volkite or the other handful of beam weaponry they use an "energy shotgun" melta would definitely be more unique then.
>level zealot>reach damnation>player skill drops off a cliffwhat the fuck is this, im playing 2h power sword and have to kill every ranged special with knives cause my 3 vets cant be arsed to press m1
>>545872831>knivesWhat ranged are you using? Flamer?
>>545859157happened to me too once, was in hub, spending talent points, quit the game and bam restartoptimization for this game is hot garbage it seems
>>545872954yeah
>>545873213As much as I like the flamer, I found flamer and/or knives to be too tedious for randoms. I recommend something else, like revolver/bolt pistol, and whatever grenade (I use stun, but flame is seemingly just as good?). And yeah, the avg Vet is pretty shit honestly. A shit Vet is quite apparent, too, probably more than every other class.
>>545872831Force Greatsword + Boltpistol Psyker does everything Zealot does but better.
What a fucking fatty, you fat fucking bitch, you fat tub of lard.
>>545873618Stop calling me out like that anon, this is a hugtide general...
>>545844921Oh no we're so intimidated! Not. Die.
>>545873543>gunpsykerCease.>>545873729>ratfagYou too; cease.
>>545869226fat
>>545873543can you charge at shit though? currently leveling each class to 30 to get a feel, not interested in super meta playstyles that skip non-optimal stuff
>>545872727i think the wave makes sense because youre heating the air to temperature of several stars in an instant, the moisture in the air is starting to decompose and explode, currently the plasma rifle is probably how the melta should be working just with less range and a wide area of effect
>>545873770More like Swordpsyker.
>>545873713Is that the Nightreign birb? Would.
>>545873976Why do furries speak like ESLs? It's "bird".>but it's a mem-No.
>>545874049I couldn't imagine having a soul as withered and joyless as yours. Furry haters really are soulless. lol
>>545873936Within "video-game" canon it would be like a Voidstrike ball but wider and very short range.Within proper canon it would be a beam.
>>545874110what are you on about turbofaggot
>>545874049
>>545874297soulless
>>545874049Birb
BURD
>>545873213There's no purpose to playing flamer below auric.
>>545874196Sovlless.
>>545874196no, what im saying is you still get a beam, but there should be heated air around the beam, because youre firing a beam of plasma at the temperature of several stars in atmosphere, thats why you should be wearing a rebreather and probably some level of eye protection when using it, or least close your eyes and look away
I didn't realise Female Seer and Bully get so many lines together
>>545875337Ogryn owe Psyker smex
Meltaguns are just basically giant blowtorches.That's all you need to know to imagine how they would be.
>>545875965Anon, what the fuck, no. Blowtorches stay on for prolonged periods of time. Meltas are relatively tiny weapons for the insane amount of power (heat) they produce, ergo, tiny weapon, tiny range, tiny duration (instant).
>>545873713>>545873976please get back in your containment
>>545876218This is my containment, and you're locked in wid me.Also Havoc is toxic af
someone told me there aren't any leaks because fatshark is really good at keeping things under wrapsi had to link them to the steam stats
>>545872727this post got me thinking about vehicles in darktide, which got me thinking about darktide on a proper AAA budget with a real development teammaybe the UE5 tencent-funded slop won't be so bad after all..
>>545876081>Blowtorches stay on for prolonged periods of time.And meltas don't.That's what they still basically are.
>>545876218I own this general and this board.
>>545876642If fartshart and the writing team weren't incompetent, they could implement a vehicle armor class for Sentinels, gun turrets and Daemon Engines
>>545878228GIVEHAIRFATSHARK
>>545878368New haircut and face soon with the dlc ;-)
enough is enoughjoin my aurics8508732870EU
I just had a thought, I know how they will do the long las for ganger: it will be a beat up scopeless long las the ganger reappropriate, but what it will really be is saltzs bh ult with dark tide seasoning because fatshart are lazy cunts.
>>545878368there's some guy in charge over there that hates his job, this community, and for whatever reason won't just fucking quitthere's no other explanation
>>545878085yeah the fact that they work fine in helldivers 2 (on my machi ne) just goes to show how fucked darktide is whether you blame GW or Fatshark
>>545878228>>545878368>>545878916is this demoralization or real
>>545869418I honestly don't even care much about rotten armor. It's annoying but not the worse offender.Personally, I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS I HATE BLUE STIMS HAHAHAHA FIVE BLUE STIMMED RAGERS, GO FUCK YOURSELF.
>>545879781I play regular 40s and I have never once even run into this issue. What the fuck are you fags doing that stimmed ragers are even notable? Are hardstuckies really this bad?
>>545879781Just hit them in the head, it's fine.
Havocsissies will never admit havoc 30 is harder than 40 will ever be
i should stop spamming dodge or bind jump to another key
>>545875120>>545874196>>545873936You will get a plasma gun (orange) (cone) with a range of 12 meters.
>>545880091This but unironically
>>545880091But every havoc 40 player has to play 30-40 on the climb after a reset?
>>545880092There are two in-game settings and a mod to help you.
>>545878085Pretty sure at least two of those things are beyond the scope of what the conflict is supposed to be but it would be cool
>>545880343He's talking about the quality of teammates. Regardless, resets should happen more often and drop everyone down by 20 levels. There's still too much chaff with the wheat.
>>545880092I like dodge on alt
>>545804510Nah just the first edition. Will probably get the updated version if they ever release one.
>>545880092I keep dodge on space and jump on V. Binding another key to jump has done wonders for instantly boosting my survival rate.>>545880343NTA but reset is the absolute best time to climb, and makes it a breeze because you're also playing with other 40 players to get back up.Being late is a death sentence because then you get stuck with people who either didn't bother, hardstucks, or are completely new to havoc. It's absolutely doable, but let's not pretend like it isn't needlessly more difficult when the difficulty of havoc can predominantly be determined by failing to filter out retards.
>>545810774Why does that bear look so gay
time for some darktide>Error 2014
>>545880642>>545880926Yes, exactly.All this complaining about 30 is the same shit as complaining about True Survivor. You can bitch and whine about it all you want, but the solution is just to employ a better strategy. You get to 30 during whatever season to get your TrueLevel up, get inspect from party finder, realize that you can click a host then hold shift to inspect the host, and use that knowledge to apply to non-retarded-looking 30 hosts on the next reset. For True Survivor you just level your own assignment to 40 and then keep running your assignment until you get a relatively easy map + modifiers combination and just intentionally wipe every time you don't get it.Both 30s and True Survivor are only hard if you're retarded about your approach.Same shit goes for finding lobbies. Every retard that bitches about being declined could just host their own games. You'll quickly learn just how many retards you have to decline.
>>545880962Because it's an elf (male).
>>545880571They are throwing tanks at each other, light vehicles like Sentinels and turrets won't be out of place. The story just needs to progress to introduce Daemon Engines and Daemons like Nurglings and Plaguebearers.
Melee psyker is fun, seems even more op than old zealot
>>545881469Do you think that would add value to the melee experience?
>>545881612It's fucking braindead, you just hit f every 30 seconds for scriers and then spam m1 on hordes and spam heavies on armor and shoot your huge MLGS laser whenever you want to kill everything on the screen
I'm convinced theres 3 or 4 very vocal autists in here that just post about havoc to try and trick people into playing that shit mode. No one bought into the weave mode from vermin tide, and I refuse to believe that anyone actually enjoys and plays the same shit in darktide.
>>545881630yeah, don't be retarded
>>545879893>he never got ass fucked by blue stimm ragers that get 100% damage reduction, making them unkillable
>>545881612It's unironically all I play anymore outside of havoc, and the new toughness nodes certainly made it a lot more fun because you don't die to the slightest breeze anymore.If you learn how to do the quick stab chain with deimos, you delete bosses before anyone can even have the chance to attack them. It's hilarious.
>>545881947its literally just autistic addicts who play the game all day and have literally nothing to do except brag about their titles because even the penance track can be completed by a complete mongoloidif they had a proper permadeath roguelite/campaign and auric weren't a snooze you'd never hear about havocs again
True Survivor should be changed to just apply to yourself.Ie. as long you never go down or die, you get it.
>>545882243Spoken like a true ASSlet
FIREDEATHRENEWALFIREDEATHRENEWAL
>>545881947EU havoc is alive and well and has plenty of players. US-E havoc is a little less alive but still has plenty of lobbies whenever EU is asleep. You have already admitted that you don't play it, so you admitted that you are clueless. It is, in fact, possible to enjoy a challenge mode if you are a good enough player. You were just filtered because you are bad.>>545881979>>he never got ass fucked by blue stimm ragers that get 100% damage reduction, making them unkillableNope. It's incredibly improbable that more than one gets a blue stimm, and you can just dodge circles around the fucker.They are such a non-issue that I don't even know the mechanics of how exactly they work.
>>545843731>>545842626>>545841983>>545841276Boy, there sure are an awful lot of brokers
>>545882325Any achievement that hinges on that your team mates aren't retards that are worse than bots, isn't a real achievement. It's like playing a slot machine and then hitting a jackpot, there's no actual skill involved that shit, you literally need to lucky.Also any achievement that basically requires you to download 3rd party mods to a game just have a chance at getting the said achievement is retarded design.
>>545882343
>>545881630Yes, Sentinels can stomp in melee and you can attack their leg joints to cripple them, alternatively they have a chainsaw to threaten you in melee. Daemon Engines can bite or try to run you over if you get too close, while you can attack their various parts to cripple them; destroying treads will slow them down while destroying weapons will make them unusable for example.This will also give more value to dedicated anti armor melee weapons like the Thunder Hammer, or potential weapons like Power Fists or Power Sledgehammers. Other weapons can still cope by hitting the exposed engine. They just need to make vehicle armor immune to rending so you can't stab it to death with a knife.
>>545882601Or you could employ the esoteric, dare I say unheard-of, skill of social communication, networking, and making friends, then employing that skill to go for said achievement. You don't need any mods to do that. You just need to not be a low functioning autist.>inb4 >cooperating in a cooperative gameIf it were soloable, every nigger would just play pure ego builds and try to solo while leaving everyone else behind, which is antithetical to the genre. Go play aurics if you want that kind of gameplay.
>>545881469>They are throwing tanks at each otherThey are? When/where? I don’t remember anything showing that besides the abandoned Russ tanks
>>545882403>yee bro>just dodge around it>just hope another tox bomber doesn't spawn and spam more tox gas>also hope to god there's no healer enemies near itYeah, I can tell you haven't dealt with them.
>>545878228Can't even make cute tomboys in this God forsaken game
>>545882764they would have to be some shitty daemon engines, which i guess wouldn’t be out of the question given the quality of enemy we already face, but it wouldn’t be anything crazy like a dragon or something
>>545882868>bro just get friendsI do have them, none of them want to play havoc since it's dogshit.Also you don't have any either, so the shut the fuck up.
>>545883019intelligence orgs should use this community to identify sleeper agents because if someone is as fucked as to be playing darktide they'll probably do anything for $50
>>545882902The entire Moebian Steel plotline places the Imperium and the heretics at a stalemate (alluded to whenever Morrow is mission control for missions that start on the bridge with the tanks), and the Inquisition is trying to make proper Moebian Steel in order to make more durable tanks in order to break the stalemate, tanks which are actively being made in factories that are also actively contested by the heretics.
I play h40 and have a 150% success rate and have never once gone down a single time, am 7ft IRL with a 11 inch dick and make a million dollars in a single month, you're just bad at the game.
>>545883110its like two people with true survivor who come here and cry about it essentially begging people to dare them to post their title, which they probably got with randoms on an easy map in season 1, its so cringe
>>545882868>If it were soloable, every nigger would just play pure ego buildsThey wouldn't since Havoc still rewards co-operation and team play.And the best way to get the achievement would still be to be a team player, since if your team is alive it is much easier to NOT die yourself, making finising the mission also easier.You are really are retarded. The entire achievement is stupidly designed.
>>545882970>>just dodge around itYes. Just dodge around it. Are you fucking retarded?>>just hope another tox bomber doesn't spawn and spam more tox gasShoot it dead, idiot.>>also hope to god there's no healer enemies near itYou already weren't killing a rager with healers around, so it being invulnerable is irrelevant.I don't know their exact mechanics because they are irrelevant. I don't pay attention to their stimms. I just see some enemies turn invulnerable sometimes while they stand in fart clouds. Okay. So just wait for them to stop smelling and run away or dodge. Or solve the problem with a better team composition by bringing an ogryn that kites them away from the important team members.>>545883110You are proving my point. If you aren't an insufferable faggot and actually play well, people will add you and want to play more with you. I've had plenty of players add me or disband a party and invite only me. Being a good player does that. I know it's an insanely alien concept to you because you're an insufferable autistic retard and hardstuck for a very good fucking reason, but this does in fact happen.
>>545883241>>545883285had a good kek the one time someone came back with the old cata banners meme and the true survivor instantly shut up trailing off about "don't play that faggot rat game" or something
>>545883285>which they probably got with randoms on an easy map in season 1Because that's what it really is.Had a faggot like that last thread "bro true survivor isn't difficult, i got my title in the first week of season 1, this season is super easy bro"It's quite literally out of touch havoc boomers who literally have the "fuck you got mine" mind set.It's hilarious.
>>545882117Auric is just as hard as cataclysm, so I don't need anymore than that.>>545882403I never touched the mode once because it's just weaves in darktide, and anyone with a brain that isn't riddled with autism knows it's not worth anyone's time. There's a reason that mode is dead in vt2, and no amount of false flagging or "muh skill" posting is going to trick anyone but the other retards into doing it. I'm glad you enjoy your CBT box, just know that we all think less of you for it.
Is it just me or is the mission where you have to get special ammo from the two trains just an ABSOLUTE SHITSHOW? I don't remember it being particularly hard but now I think it might be the hardest map overall, ESPECIALLY when you have to drop down into the railway tunnels at the end jesus christ. The amount of specials is actually exhausting.
Havoc rank rewards should give a pittance of aquillas, come on fartshart.
>>545883684>I never touched the modeOkay so shut the fuck up about it, retardNot reading the rest of your post
>>545883043Foetid Bloat Drones and Myphitic Blight Haulers are small enough for regular humans to fight on foot without being too implausible. Anything bigger is for Space Marines to solo.
>>545883754Did I touch a nerve autist?
>>545883158...wat
Post ur toon
>mfw the mere existence of havoc has so thoroughly mindbroken overconfident retards by filtering them barely 60% of the way through, that they cannot help themselves but shit up every online forum over how "impossible", "random" or "unfair" it is
>>545884427No
>>545884530pwease :3
>>545883948i come here b/c vermintide is good and drg was fun for a whilei have more respect for your average genshin player than darktide players, you have to come from an abusive household to fall for fatshark's shit. the game has no content, the cosmetics are as jewish as humanly possible and tied to a store that manages by some satanic trick to be worse than a lootbox, and the devs never listen to the players and even have some weird oppositional defiance issue where they balance in the face of criticism constantly, in the few updates they do they add the lamest shit and then abandon it or blame games workshop for itit was kind of cute for vermintide because they were a cute little foreign indie dev and there's a paucity of fantasy games, but fuck me if i'll enrich tencent for the same shitplay literally anything else
>>545824636>See you in 3-ACK
>>545884510beating havoc 40 isn't that bad but true survivor, as it involves the whole team's individual performance, is by definition random unless you're turtlewalking with a premade which i just can't be arsed to do. you guys are hard enough to deal with when unstressed by an ongoing game.
>>545884651I play darktide because it's good and fun in spite of fatshark being retarded, and I don't give a fuck about cosmeticsNo need for mental gymnastics, just say you don't like the game because it's too hard for you, schizo
>>545884754awww fuck what was the post?
>>545884787>too hardits not even a pvp game, you have to be truly retarded to take any pride from beating h40anyway, post cata banners
>>545884904>implying I>*looks up for talking points* >>545883432>play that faggot rat game
>>545884787the only excuse anyone needs not to play darktide is the state it launched inholy shit it was pathetic
>>545885087kek you showed that darksissy
>>545885115True.Game has been tolerable since the crafting update removed 95% of the retarded gacha gambling. Game has been good since ... somewhere around Dark Communion?The pace of content is absolutely glacial, Mortis Trials is half-baked and lazy, Havoc is half-baked, lazy, bad and wasted potential, and best of all, you can just choose not to give a fuck about any of that and just play and enjoy the game, then stop playing when you get bored.Or, in your languageIt's not that deep lil bro fr fr
Darkturd moment
>>545884774If it's random, why does having it even matter?
>>545885485it doesn't, that's the point
>>545884774>>545885515Just say that you're jealous because you don't have it bro
>>545885319>>545885580insufferable bro faux-chill poster
>>545884651>he cannot comprehend being able to simply ignore the cosmeticjewing aspect of the gameI have 1000 hours and the only optional thing I paypigged for was the Arbiter.>>545885580NTA but, I'm personally jealous I'm not good enough at the game at the necessary level to get it, but
>>545885664Feeling a lil called out there bro?
>>545885319yea... or i could just go play something that doesn't require a history lesson to appreciateyou sound like an abused housewife>h-he's not that bad anymore! he's in therapylol just lo
>>545883237Hmmmm I guess but I kind of doubt anything more will come of that at this point. It’s a cool thought though
the true survivors woke up from their neet naps and are here to defend their favorite chinese megacorporations
>>545885819The game was shit on release and I didn't bother seriously playing it until the crafting update fixed the retarded gambling.No idea what's up with this schizo cope, or why therapy lives rent-free in your head. You definitely need some.
>>545883836that looks cool, lethal and small time enough to do the job yeah. semi-unrelated but that figure is really nice. love all the detail on it. the way daemon engines blend ‘flesh’ and machinery together is so uniquely perverse and oddly satisfying.
>>545885798>>545885786cataatabanners before i read your posts, slaves
>>545883691Chasm logistratum. It's deffo up there with silo cluster and refinery delta 17 (rituals).
>>545886160> lowercase iTheeeeere's the resident slavgroid
>>545886160>ratfaggot seething
>>545886064>go to therapyhow original, now return to reddit swiftly
>>545886287>>545886320i just whipped both of you into copeposting at once, there's no limit to my power
>>545886097Alright, I laughed.
>doesn't deny slavgroid allegations>universally hated ratfaggot shitposter is a draft dodging little faggotpottery
i'm never finishing this shit am i
>>545884427>>545884582
>>545887145i've really got you too scared to reply directly nowand i'm closing the tab to go eat lunchtotal victory. don't try my patience again.
>>545887527If you don't have friends to play with, you can run a solo mission on low difficulty with "Many More Try" mod, bait all of your bots into the fan so they eat shit, then push enemies into the fan one by one.
>>545886097KekFuck you
>>545887609I'm tubemaxing
>>545852120I only want to mute this baboon and Dukane but the latter is tolerable as a to hate bitch.Musumbu Mugubu is unbearable.
>>545887651does it remove you from quickplay queus?
no one cares what your ugly darktide character looks like
I do care, keep posting
I have no'nt playeded darktide in wide time
>>545887964"Yes".Many More Try does a few weird things.Before the mission board rework, people could somehow randomly join, presumably through quickplay when all other quickplay sessions were full?AFTER the mission board rework, the only way I've had people join is, presumably, through MMT themselves. I occasionally run Rolling Steel in uprising to farm Melk assignments, and sometimes I get the same high level player joining my missions that we both just speedrun through.I doubt anyone is going to join your Relay Station game.
>>545888159Saar those are truest sentence you worded
>>545888159soon is bestest time, new class in month
>>545888240Thank You kind Sirs>>545888331maybe goodest time, new lecture better be gooderest
>>545887964>>545888192Oh I should addIf you MMT an ongoing mission, people can still join. You should be MMTing an already expired mission.Consult https://otwako.github.io/darktide-mission/
>>545884427I'm sillymaxxing
>>545888479it will, you trust
>>545888515Yeah i guessed as much, one relay station just spawned, i'll try it after an hour Makes it even weirder to not have a proper mission selection if this shit works
>>545888826>Makes it even weirder to not have a proper mission selectionInsert some stupid cope about le rejects not being allowed to decide what missions to go on. It's a deliberate decision by fagshart.>if this shit worksIt does, it's how I soloed that penance, too. If you just check MMT, you can also just select an older expired mission, if there is one. No need to wait an hour, just grab the link and paste it into chat for the /mmt numbersnumbers command.
>>545888595do you even try?
>>545889295Try what? Resisting?
WHO AM I?
>>545889862I AM A REDDITOR!
>>545889862I AM A WARRIOR!
How do you avoid hemorrhoids because of long gaming cessions? asking for a friend
>>545890080They did NOT say that
Are shotguns viable in DT?
>>545890335A good office chair, ergonomic seat pillow (the ones that look like they have a cut-out for farting lol), better posture, but most importantly, a healthy and balanced diet so you don't end up with Nurgle-tier shits. Don't skip fiber in your diet. Improve your gut health by consuming plain yogurt (you don't need fancy probiotics).
What’s Arbites best ranged weapon?
>>545887749
>>545889862Neil Breen
>>545890335Wash your ass after shitting. Every time. You also get to have a clean asshole as a side-effect.
>>545890640The combat shotguns are good enough to function well in havoc 40 on veteran and arbitrator. I usually see slug on veteran and horizontal spread on arbitrator. I'm a big fan of the slug shotgun on zealot in aurics, mostly because it's a slightly worse bolt pistol, except I can reload it while sliding, and dump the entire thing for massive DPS followed by a really long reload.>>545890721For aurics, it's the exterminator shotgun with the stun rounds, taking both cleave nodes in the bottom right. It annihilates everything that matters except carapace, which BTL + melee deal with, and you also get dog or lone wolf shock mines.It's still very good in havoc because small ammo pickups restore all your special shells, and the special shells deal full damage with a fixed spread, while also stunning everything they hit. You get double ammo efficiency from ammo pickups, which is insane.Boltgun is also very strong, in part because arbitrator can build for absolutely massive monster damage, and the boltgun is one of the best at killing those. But don't underestimate the shotgun, it also rapes monstrosities, it just takes a couple seconds longer.Bolt pistol is excellent. Shotpistol is completely fine, but you mostly bring it to have a shield in your ranged slot.
>>545890640Arbites has a special one that is their best ranged weapon. The others vary from usable to worthless. I am a fan of the Agripinaa but acknowledge that it falls off hard on higher difficulties. The ogryn kickback is also pretty fun.>>545890721See above
>>545890854It would be impossible to sit with that armor because the upper leg plate would stab into your groin and the groin guard would stab into your inner thighs. It would also be impossible to raise your arms. It would also be impossible to bend over.
>>545891327Ok.
>>545891175>>545891218Thanks lads. Is there any reason to use the slug version of Arby’s shotgun?
>>545891327Not to mention that its a female depicted doing a mans job
>>545891327>It would be impossible to sit with that armor because the upper leg plate would stab into your groinJust manspread.>and the groin guard would stab into your inner thighsDo you see that blue stuff the plates are attached to? It has stitching around the sides. That implies it's some sort of fabric-like material, presumably space kevlar. Just bend it forward and out of the way.>It would also be impossible to raise your arms.Look at the chick arbitrator's gold pauldron. You can clearly see lots of fabric underneath, and right on top of the shoulder, some sort of attachment point. It would be awkward, but the armor looks plenty flexible.Their armor is much lighter than historical plate armor, and you would be surprised with how nimble a more lightly armored olden knight could actually be.The actual awkwardness comes from the chest plate, which limits upper arm mobility, but these are still relatively practical.
>>545884427
>Want to play Darktide>Dont want any gay modifiers, just the Darktide experience as-is>Can only choose one map out of dozens, so I pick that one>Finish it, now gotta wait 30 minutes to play different map because no mission select Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Instead of playing a lot and thus wanting to invest (paypig) into the game, I play one map then go play something else, with ever-increasing gaps inbetween.
>>545891645>Is there any reason to use the slug version of Arby’s shotgun?It's much more accurate and, due to the way pellet count works in darktide, is thus much more reliable at killing faraway enemies like snipers, which is somewhat useful if you don't bring the dog for some reason. The rending is also very good for making monsters die quicker, and can work kinda okay against crushers, but I wouldn't advise it.I recommended the stun round one BECAUSE of its horizontal spread. You can just stack up your 125%+ cleave, aim it roughly at head level, and erase 10 shotgunners in a single trigger pull. I believe it still 2-shots auric snipers without any perks, but that might require your damage buffs to be active.
>>545890335Don't strain when you take a shit
I really hope they bring back the Kruber halberd for skitarii, I'd be picking that shit up day 1
>>545892305Ganger will get the halberd.
>>545892305Skitarii dlc right after the Hive ganger, just be patient
>>545890640Yeah, just pick weapon specialist + infinite crit on cleave, it's super funPersonally I'm running fire shotty
>>545890335Stop using phone while shitting. Wash your ass afterwards. If you're overweight, invest into ergonomic chair and pay attention to your posture. Even if not overweight you should do the last 2.
>>545887527>Play with (you) >(You) keep pushing enemies into me but the achievement doesnt complete:(
>>545892000>>Dont want any gay modifiers, just the Darktide experience as-isAuric HISTG is the Darktide experience.>Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?Fatshark, of course. The company infamous for making the most retarded decisions possible, to cope with their crippling allergy against player retention and making any real money.The system is utter shit, but the modifiers really aren't that bad. Tox gas is the best example of a needlessly over-hated modifier because it's actually easier with, than without. It spams green stimms everywhere.
>>545889156well that was easy, wish i knew about that mod before, it's the last map exclusive one i had left, it's just grinding penances now
I'll never get True Survivor, I have all the other penances this is the only one left and everytime some retard gets himself killed for absolute shit reason, I'm tired of Havoc
>>545892681I dont mind the modifiers per se. They can be fun every now and then. I mind them when they pollute the originally modifier-free pool of ~8 options down to 1-2. Having lobby browser with optional modifier toggles would let everyone have their cake and eat it too.
>>545893028>>545893028>>545893028>>545893028>>545893028MOVE!
>>545890335u got very hopeful advice but the #1 thing is just that sitting causes pressure and causes those. Get a standing desk
>>545889295>>545889417ゴゴゴゴ
>>545889156The cope isnt why they did it. They did it because its been shown that not making all missions available all the time increases player retention. Think how toddlers play with their toys more if you rotate whats available. Darktide was made for profitmaxxing first and foremost. Thats why we have the shitty hub: to cause envy when you see paypigs in their shiny armor. Thats why cash shop vendor used to be directly on your path to mission table (where Hestia now sits). Thats why game originally waited for everyone to load into lobby before letting you in: to maximize chances of you seeing paypigs and perhaps make a purchase yourself even if it meant everyone had to wait for the slowest pajeets toaster to load in before even entering the lobby. Thats why they still cant find resources to finish the game (adding reds so you can roll over 80% stats), but there's zero issues finding resources to make new cash shop models every month.
>>545875120Jurgen never needed any faggy eye protection to solo carry
>>545878085It's enraging how fps/tps 40k devs avoid vehicles like fire. There is one short moment where you fight alongside a Leman Russ in SM2 and a couple where you follow behind a Chimera or those flying Primaris Rhinos and it's the coolest shit ever. Combined Arms is cool. We should get a Darktide mission where it's just us covering a Leman Russ Demolisher as it rolls forward to explode a heretic stronghold or something.