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>News
Agent Record | Banyue
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41700148
Agent Record | Dialyn
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41681910
Version 2.3 Special Program
https://youtu.be/uTWIK77TcdI

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/_Zo_zbHmOpI (EN)
https://youtu.be/begsPfi50BY (JP)
https://youtu.be/G-dkyslN_4s (EN)
https://youtu.be/ovdNs4GBg9o (JP)
https://youtu.be/NCzUV95VIEI
https://youtu.be/CQBbCfxIgnY (EN)
https://youtu.be/wutoIFoyZGU (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.3
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/160259
All-New Program 10/14 - 11/25
The Inverted Night Lantern 10/14 - 11/24
When Dreams Remain Unfinished 10/17 - 11/24
SNAP! Shining Strike 10/22 - 11/10
Timesworn Hills Explorer's Guide 10/14 - 11/26
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 10/29 - 11/03
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 11/05 - 11/25
Chronicle of Counseling 11/05 - 11/17
141 Eco Art Exhibition 11/12 - 11/24
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 11/19 - 11/24

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ23SWEETILY

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://interknot-network.com

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Join the official /zzz/ Site, while there's still room!
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends

>add /zzz/ to your account info
>send a friend request to everyone else from your server
>reply to this post with your UID to get added to the list

Benefits include:
- AFKing a support while whales clear co-op for you!
- roleplaying as your favorite agent!
- getting mogged at the arcade!
- spamming stickers in chat!
- and much more!

Enlist today!
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Raikon.
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Do NOT roll for Sharingang
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Jufufuta
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I love my bnuuy wife
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Miyabi Naizuri
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Maybe, just maybe, if you thought with your stupid little head of yours, TV is coming back in 3.0 because they needed time to rework it? How about that huh?
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This general needs a futa tier list in the resources link
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What sites are you going to join /zzz/?
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>>545817625
Chinkus ABSOLUTELY mogs Mibibibers in terms of ear size
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>>545817681
Is she into anal
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>>545817787
Lucy's cock is enormous
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Cutie
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Bunny cunny!
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>>545817964
She is not that cute
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Why are they adding the HSR phone interface?
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>>545817374
1500088775
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I don't even know what Dialyn does besides give a free ult (I think after her chain attack)
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>>545817869
The one the banish all homos.
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>>545818028
She's pretty cute.
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>>545818126
oops eu i forgor*
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Soon
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What if my cock slightly turns to the side... Alice will never love me...
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>>545818238
Tight
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Where the fufulings at?
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>>545817374
1007030959
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>>545818357
Your only option is surgery
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>>545817625
Not rolling for her bcs she's physical and I don't want two agents of the same type and class when S-Billy comes out
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>>545817624
Cute
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Do not lewd Fufu
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>>545818442
Ah!
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>>545818357
perhaps she'll get you a correctional jelking masseuse
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>>545818305
Skip patch
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>>545818495
Billy will be Rupture, thoughbeit.
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>>545818548
El Fufu
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when Shifu came out they had her mog Miyabi in one of the trailers. is the new VH going to mog Shifu in one of her trailers or is Miyabi going to be the assigned punching bag for every new VH?
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>>545818835
Why cant they just be friends??
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>>545815834
>are you personally creating the clans in every server once they're available
i'm not planning to.
the primary purpose of the friends rentry is to facilitate adding /zzz/iggers to your friends list, for all the current and future content the devs will implement for it.

we'll see what shape the clan system takes. other multiplayer events like fallboos and boochess were temporary, so this could be too.
so far, the clan system is reported to have 50 to 60 slots, and the rentry shows that on paper we have more than 50 US anons (though some of them have dropped).
so US anons might wanna plan for 2 /zzz/ clans.

my posts right now are mostly of an educational nature, preparing people for the upcoming content.
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>>545818442
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>>545818637
Pinky promise?
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>>545818442
She just cant help bending over...
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>>545818835
>when Shifu came out they had her mog Miyabi in one of the trailers
It was a draw
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I regret rolling for Caesar Lawrence
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>>545818495
Why would they make Billy a defender??
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Today I will remind them
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>>545819210
Buff incoming, trust the plan
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https://youtu.be/wZlv3qDPfjk
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I want to taste the fufu
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>>545819108
feline genes too strong, she cant help it. Her butt probably does it by itself.
Imagine how easy would be to always fuck her doggy, all you gotta do is pat her lower back a little for her to present
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Big cock
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>>545819256
Shit you're right
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>>545819556
me and who
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>>545819556
Cute and canon
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>>545818835
She's not going to be to pull off VH feats once she becomes playable, she just managed to purify the Qingming sword according to the leaks.
She's just going to use it to nuke whatever threat is at the end of S2 and Yixuan shifu's goes atta'girl and that's it, she's sells as a baby VH.
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>>545819556
Gay game
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We need more redheads
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>>545819556
This is how my clan will join co-op
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orf
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>>545817374
1500330743
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>>545819414
Nah, defense class is completely unsalvageable
Just make a rupture alt
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>>545819829
so true
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>>545819242
Cute feet
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Sarah did nothing wrong
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>>545819268
I have never touched redditsu kaisen, explain this pic.
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How can one little tiger be so CUTE?
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>>545819556
me and this anon >>545819634
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>>545819556
im homophobic and an incel but this is how ill greet my bros in the clan lobby
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>>545820000
I hate Fufu
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>>545820000
I love Fufu
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>>545819991
It's pretty self-explanatory...
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>>545820085
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I can't stop thinking about Dialyn's prepubescent chest.
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>>545819556
I don't like this because Astra is actually taller than Evelyn
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They better make ye a massive DORK
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>>545820085
And I hate you random citizen!
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holding Jane's hand
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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>>545820358
...so she doesn't steal my wallet
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>>545819974
Stop liking evil women
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Perlman did nothing wrong
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>>545820403
hi dad
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>>545820293
I'm tired of dorks.
I want a girl who's MEAN
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Uhhh, so where are the gameplay leaks?
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>>545820520
Whatever happened to him? Is he still waiting for his trial?
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Bunny wife!
Happy life!
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>>545820648
Well that won't be her
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>>545820698
I want to kiss her cute lil toes
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>>545820471
Heart*
spoiler: she already did
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>>545820651
Only new UI gameplay is out
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Isolde did everything wrong.
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>>545820648
>>545820709
Prob gonna be the gremlin in work mode.
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I have sex with both of them
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I want to have sex with ALL of my FEMALE seniors!
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>>545820698
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>>545821063
Twiggy...
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>>545820591
Are you winning, son?
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CGWSF
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>log in 2.5
>first coop match
>3 zhaos
wwyd
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>>545821080
I need an S rank Corin alt
I even pulled caesar for her, and she SUCKS now
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Zhao is going to have the animations of Yoda fighting Dooku in episode two
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>>545821223
we go band for band with saved zhao images
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>>545821204
i want to live between her toes like a fucking slave actually
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Joey for Spook Shack when?
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>>545820698
Are Zhao bros excited at her being a Defender?
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>>545821154
I won 50/50 on yid so yeah!!! I'll try to get her engine but unless I get lucky again.. the game is pretty fun now that i have my first limited damage dealer
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>>545821204
I bet she's very tasty
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>>545821384
Corn?
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>>545821080
Remove those stupid boots and keep her hair down and she's perfect
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>>545821223
Bring a 4th.
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Are there any Banyue showcases without Lucia or Dialyn. I only saw one with Orphie and Lighter..
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Melty-inducing image, do not open if your mind is weak.
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>>545821462
Corn's big sister and the true Fofo of ZZZ
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Who is the next male on the lineup?
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>>545817374
1002600618
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNprjush2xA
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>>545821654
Prydwen>>
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>>545821559
UOOOOOOOOOOOH
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>>545821443
Niceu!!! Where are you with the story?
I've been so busy recently and couldn't play much but today I started playing a few hours of the story and some events
Tomorrow I'm planning to finish everything! Hari's jp voice is so soothing that I might pull for her as well!
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>>545821621
Hopefully they never make one again
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>>545821318
It's going to be fun and super unique.
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>>545821859
Cute cat
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>>545821592
Cute!
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Asking the real questions here

https://poal.me/vrjoee
>https://poal.me/vrjoee
https://poal.me/vrjoee
>https://poal.me/vrjoee
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>>545821837
Still on season 1, met jane just recently. I gotta do all the events also, only did the photo one since that was going to expire soon. I noticed you've been away, was a bit worried since you're always kinda here but I assumed you're busy!!
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Sanby skipper status?
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You haven't forgotten about Trigger, have you, anon?
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>>545820085
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>>545822125
I had forgotten how sexy her tummy is
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>>545822125
Who?
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>>545817625
unless her gameplay looks fun I'm not rolling for shungus
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>>545821839
With the amount of effort they put into Banyue and how much Manato was shoved into the story as opposed to Yidhari who had 0 good moments so they resorted to added extra pounds to her tits, they clearly dont give a shit what incels think. Theyll continue releasing what they want
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>>545821318
very specific reference that I completely understand
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>>545821837
Wait a minute... is this the police dance?!?!?
There is a Qingyi one that does this too.
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>>545822112
i might have to pick her up on a rerun, considering how low haru and anton stocks have fallen
but since i don't have trigger or orphie, it might be over a year from now
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>>545822502
I LOVE CORN
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>>545822125
They will eventually release Electric Rupture which is ideal for her, but they will tweak the Electric ruture in such a way that they can't play well together at all.
I just know it will happen.
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>>545822052
You've got a lot more to do!! I've been playing the game since day 1 and I remember early game had the TV sections by default, I wonder how the early sections are, never re-played early chapters
Yeah I had some problems that drained my energy on top of having to adapt and learn a new project at work which also drained my energy even more. I was just posting 1 I think without much interaction
I'm a little bit frustrated, I've played since day 1 without skipping a day like not a single one, but last month because I was so tired and I was only doing the dailies, the monotony got me and for some reason I thought I've done my dailies when in fact, I did not... and a day slipped, breaking my record. Felt so bad about it
>>545822582
I think so
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>>545822112
>>545822601
>pulling sanby when shunguang will buff seed to the moon in 5 weeks
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>>545822836
Corn a cute
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>>545821223
How would Zhao be in your first match if she's the second half character
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>>545822853
>electric rupture which is ideal for her
Uhh, Trigger's thing is reducing defense which has anti-synergy with rupture units.
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>saves Obol Squad
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>>545820085
At first I hated Jufufu but after 1 retard kept posting her I
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Let me get this right, I only have Nicole, Lucy and Rina as supports, Lucy would be the best for rupture characters because they ignore def so def shred by Nicole is useless and PEN is also useless because??
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>>545822970
>expecting /zzz/ to know anything about the game
lol how foolish
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>crit dmg +10%
>""buff""
RETARDS
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>>545822970
That's only for fools who grab her engine.

Trigger's real thing is to multiple your agent with x1,55
But you probably don't understand what that means.
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>>545823001
THEY GOT THE NAGI POSTER NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>545822867
I kinda understand. I have a day 1 jenshin account but I left for like a month due to irl and now all I have is my day 1 amber. tv section is okay I guess, it could be a bigger maze (?) but I don't dislike it. lotta to do indeed, it's a bit overwhelming but that's how it is to start a gacha so late, plus, despite having a lot of free time, i'm not good at using it so I'm taking a while to go through stuff. good luck with work!!
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>>545822961
just don't play during the first three weeks of the patch!
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>>545821204
("~Urrrrrgh...m-my girlfeets are so sweaty and smelly! This is so embarrassing! How could a cute girl like me have such stinky smelly feets?! I-If anyone ever finds out, I would DIE!")
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more bunnies
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Moshi moshi desu!
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>>545823458
Corn is clean!
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>>545823105
If you have Pan he should be much better than Lucy and if the rupture character but otherwise yeah she's your best option (unless the rupture character is Yi Xuan in which case Nicole's ether DMG buffs make her better but still worse than Pan)
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>>545823105
>Nicole, Lucy and Rina as supports, Lucy would be the best for rupture
Nicole is the better one for Yixuan.
Gives her 15% crit chance when field is up.
Gives her Ether DMG bonus.
Helps her Ether Anomaly, wihch will add Adrenaline Regen for Yixuan.
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Sarah will be a playable agent in 3.x
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>>545823163
Dipshit theyre both important parts of her kit but given that the entire obol lineup has defense ignore somewhere and its the only stat that scales better the more you have it it's clear that defense ignore is an obol gimmick. Regardless Dialyn is just better than Trigger for rupture units
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>>545823480
Hello, gangsta party line?
I need me a bunny nigga
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>>545823336
cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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>>545823636
She already has a playable segment in the 2.5 story
https://files.catbox.moe/nta31k.mp4
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>>545823660
I want cock
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>>545823572
>and if the rupture character
Ignore this part I rewrote the post this is when I was gonna mention the YI Xuan thing
>>545823589
Ether anomaly doesn't actually give her adrenaline, only Yi Xuan's special element does
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>>545823656
>theyre both important parts of her kit
Nah, if I invest solely into rupture, I wouldn't give a fuck abou her engine.
Trigger C1 buff more than Lucia, nevermind Pan.

>Regardless Dialyn is just better than Trigger for rupture units
Trigger would add more daze + stronger buff than Lucia and Pan. She is the first choice for an electric Rupture, and then you have a last slot for Dialyn if you don't want Lucia.
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>>545823524
In the sense that she isn't covered in filth, sure...

But...she stinks. She does lots of activity in boot. Girlfeets are naturally very stinky, so if a girl wears boots like that while moving, then she is going to have very very VERY stuffy sweaty smelly girlfeets. There's no way around. Corn has smelly feet. Her girlfeets are cute, but also smelly. That's just the way it is. I'm sorry.
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STOP SAYING GIRLFEETS
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/zzz/ always pick fights with my hot takes, and they always end up in the emergency room.
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>>545824013
>Trigger would add more daze + stronger buff than Lucia and Pan
Are you genuinely stupid? Dailyn does more than enough daze solo and Trigger does not buff more than Lucia for rupture. Its not even close
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>>545824054
Will she let me suck them while I jerk myself off?
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Ye Shunguang's delicate chinky doggirlfeet in my mouth
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>>545824292
Stop fighting with retards
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>>545821837
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>>545823336
Day 1 genshin with just one month pause? Daamn, that's a lot of dedication!! I used to play genshin but the open world/exploration burned me good and I just couldn't enjoy the game anymore so I quit
I'm grateful that ZZZ is not open world
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>>545823572
>>545823589
damn I forgot about Pan. Well, ideally I dont use him but yeah so Lucy unless the rupture agent in question is Yixuan, got it
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Grace finding a post you made online where you say that you are going to kill yourself because you're a virgin! Opening your door and seeing Grace bawling her eyes out, BEGGING you to not kill yourself! Grace saying that she will have sex with you if you don't kill yourself! Grace holding on to you TIGHT during sex, squeezing you and saying that she will NEVER let her precious Anon kill himself!
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>>545824292
>Dailyn does more than enough daze solo
I want more Daze, sue me, retard.

>>545824292
>and Trigger does not buff more than Lucia
Lucia doesn't even provide 900 sheer, it's fake and gay.
I know you suck dick aat math, otherwise you would hav know the x1,55 multipler is worth 1400 Sheer DMG at minimum, in wortst case.
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>>545824662
Eous....
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>>545823636
They are going to Signora her
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>>545824567
Yeah but after so long it's finally getting to me, I don't see myself picking up another open world game ever for example. if zzz was open world I wouldn't have picked it up for sure
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Considering that Tuning Calibrators are useless 80% of the time these fucking things need to be given to you weekly instead of twice a year
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>>545824662
That doesn't sound very in character unless I'm a robot
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So is Yidhari worth going for?
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>>545824662
>>545824935
imagine grace stumbling upon r9k and trying to help all the suicidal virgin robots before realizing they arent actual robots
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>>545824882
The thing is the bar of entry for artifacts in this game is so incredibly low and eg5ting a good build is piss easy. Its obviously nice to get but I dont think we needed selectable substats. Its nice that this game is getting so much QoL but I also understand that gacha games make certain things frustrating for a reason, star rail has a similar system but its endgame requires you to have characters released in the last 3 patches or you have 0 hope of clearing which entices people to pull and pay for pulls. Zzz endgame is already easily clearable, I just wonder if theyre purposely choosing to not take from the habits of other hoyo games and how that will bode for sales
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>>545825209
Only if you're a dickroller.
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>>545825209
gave me the want to try hard deadly assault again so i'll say she is worth it
if ur a mechanical fag she needs attention in her gameplay and care which is fun

but she is hella easy to use if ur a casual player she is easy to pick up
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Just saw all the shit they are supposedly adding for 2.5
If all of it it's true this is by far the best gacha I have ever played
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>>545820000
Nice quads fufu
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>>545825553
Why wouldn't it be true
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the /zzz/ guild will be a cunny Site
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>>545825389
It takes me 10 minutes to get a set of discs to make a character playable in endgame
In hsr is almost imposible to get stat requirement for a support unless you roll like 20 substats
Hyacine asking for 200 SPD is just insane without her cone
And worst of all is that unlike zzz where if you don't reach 24k with lucia you lose only 5% of the buff those suports lose the entire fucking buff unless you rach that treshold
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>>545825714
it's not the first time the devs lied
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>>545825714
Sounds too good to be true
As an old fgo and HSR player I'm not used to the game adding actual fun stuff and changes to keep the playerbase interested
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A substat selector is coming though
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>>545786236
1000245085
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How would you add more characters to Stars of Lyra and Mockingbird?
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Notorious marionette four times, and Miasmic Jane two times in the span of 35 floors is some seriously evil shit
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>>545825714
doomjeets of /zzz/ have a melty over improvements
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>>545822125
>Didn't get her Engine

Bros... When's her next rerun..
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>>545825790
Yea I genuinely wonder if thats why the game sells less. Theyre already giving you 100+ pulls a patch, building is easy and you dont even need the BiS supports to clear endgame
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>>545826021
What kinda account do you need to go so high?
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>>545824803
Welcome to the club! Open world games gachas are so tiring! I hope ZZZ never becomes one
Have a nice day!
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>>545826454
Thanks, have a nice day you too!!
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>>545825993
I would add Monica as a playable character and put her in Stars of Lyra and make another Mockingbird character who is a stunner so they can activate Robin's addition ability for stunners.
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>>545826214
I'm managing with M0W1 Eve, M0W1 Yixuan, M0W0 Astra, M0W0 Trigger and M6 Pan, the max stat enhancement level is 15 which is just a 500% HP boost, it's more about just learning enemies until you can no-hit them, not Miasma Jane though, she's still a pain to read despite having fought her iirc 10 times at this point, i've only managed to no-hit her once
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>>545826395
wrong tab bwo...
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>>545826214
You just need Astra. And 2 agents with a lot of iframes.
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>>545825438
>hella
Get off the internet grandpa
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>>545826021
>>545826214
>>545827057
Astra is a cheat Agent for this mode because she lets you switch between agents for free.
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>>545826395
Why couldn't we get plappa?
Instead we have fucking seed
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>>545827243
Rappa is a shitty character from the worst patch in hsr while seed got a sidestory that lasts 1 hour and is more emotional than the 7 patch long arc of amphoreus
I'd rather keep seed thanks
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>>545827243
ZZZ doesnt appeal to vtuber audience.
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What does Dialyn do?
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Cute Bnnuy
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>>545827946
she commits hate crimes against thirens and clankers
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>>545827946
Best stun in the game
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>needs SEED
and just like that all my hype and interest in ye has evaporated like it never existed at all
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>>545828313
Seed will absolutely be her best teammate but orphie is probably a decent cope option
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>>545827946
Dialyn can do Trigger engine+Fufu+Qingyin buffs in 1 character
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>>545828567
I skipped orphie too because I didn't especially care about making my sanby team stronger
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>>545825209
I've gone up 30 tower levels in like under two hours so yeah honestly
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Burnice needs my seed
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>>545828621
>Qingyin buffs
She doesn't have that.
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>>545828756
How's far have you climbed?
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zzznozer for this feel?
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I can't get corn out of my head
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>>545828930
went from 40 to 70 today, in the regular tower
her spammable parry, 50% DR, and healing make her nearly invincible

I'm having more trouble keeping the other two mooks from taking damage
I was not aware lucia can not only take damage in her ult but past a certain point it doesn't stun anything so you basically just ride your dumb fucking mount and eat a shit ton of damage while effectively doing nothing
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>>545817374
1000046709
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What's a good F2P cope team for Evelyn? Pulchra and... Koleda? Nicole? She's just sittting there collecting dust while I wait for reruns. I'm going to try for Dialyn but I'm probably going to miss her if I lose my 50/50.
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Sometimes while I go to sleep I fantasize about having 'mommy Shifu as my girlfriend.
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>>545829679
Eve Pulchra Nicole is probably your best bet if you can manage Pulchra and her evasive assist
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>>545829679
Koleda Lucy probably.
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>>545829915
>>545829945
The duality of man
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>>545829679
F2Ps are supposed to save up for Astra or Yuzuha.
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You people are so retarded. Seed is not Sanby and Evelyn BiS, why would she be Shungu BiS? Seed is an attacker who turns another attacker into into an EX bot, not a support.
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doggy style
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>>545830376
I am waiting for Astra rerun but who knows how long that's going to take. Yuzuha is for my anomaly team
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>>545824737
>Lucia doesn't even provide 900 sheer, it's fake and gay
NTA but you really don't know how Lucia's buffs work along side rupture, huh? Unless you're trying to say a 2 cost pseduo support is better than a 1 cost support, then yeah, no shit. Trigger's main competition is Dialyn though so not sure why you would compare her to an actual supporter dedicated to rupture
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>>545824737
>Lucia doesn't even provide 900 sheer, it's fake and gay.
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>>545830536
So we can both watch X-Files
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Hello guys, since the game is still kinda new, would it be a good time to start playing? If so, who should I reroll for? Implying rerolling is not super hard
I wouldn't like to miss on the 1st year anniversary
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Ok explain THIS
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>>545830991
You just missed the best Sheer force support in the game by like a few days, but if you wait till next patch with your rolls Phone bitch comes out and she is the best Stunner in game and seems broken as all fuck. Banners right now are huge bait, so just get whoever you think is hot and wait till next banner. S11 is getting buffs, so she's would be someone good to pick up with your free pick then
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At least they are self aware...
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>>545830991
>I wouldn't like to miss on the 1st year anniversary
Anon, I...
Anyway, the standard agents aren't really worth rerolling for, I'd say only reroll your account if you get Nekomata because she's not very useful without copies.
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>>545830636
>NTA but you really don't know how Lucia's buffs work along side rupture, huh?
I know your Lucia doesn't hav 24000 HP unless she has Sig engine.
I know you most likely have around 21K to 22K HP = 820 Sheer force if you have good discs.
So yes, I am in fact correct and know more about your Lucia than you do.
820 sheer force is not a lot compared to Trigger's x1,55

>so not sure why you would compare her to an actual supporter dedicated to rupture
Because they held back when they designed Lucia, she ended up weaker than Trigger.
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>>545831412
>>545831501
Oh fuck, looks like the first anniversary already went by
Maybe I shouldn't try to metafag in this game and take it easy instead
I just wanna own this big titty monster, she's my favorite design by a lot
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>>545831227
My pov. (Zhudas can leave)
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>>545831785
Lucia's buffs works in 3 ways at M0W0 and 4 ways at M0W1:
1) She directly adds 900 sheer force at capped buffs
2) She increases the HP of the units, which indirectly further increases all rupture unit's sheer force value because they all have a line that says they gain additional SF based on their Max HP (even if it changes in the middle of combat). At W0 it's a 5% HP increase while veil is on and at W1 its a 20% HP Increase while Veil is on
3) Her aftershock attacks make all damage increase by another 20%. If you're saying trigger's 35% / 55% permanent stun multiplier increase is a one to one increase to an agent's sheer force, which is what you're implying, then this also means a 20% damage modifier increase is a a direct boost to sheer force by that same logic.
4) At W1 specifically, she further increases all damage done by agents by 25% under veil. Again, another free 25% increase to sheer force assuming one to one as per above.

You don't even need to cap her flat sheer force buff for her to outpace trigger's permanent multiplier at all.
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>>545832263
Using some random guy's Yi Xuan, you get something like this while in combat
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doing Lucia's story just makes me dislike her more.
>Night Horror cursed our people but this doggy is cute and my friend
Shut up bitch
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>>545832574
the doggy is the night horror though
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>>545831876
she's getting an optional buff/rework in patch and a half so you she should be good
however you may get unlucky and not get her until the second anniversary...
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When are they getting buffed?
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>>545832263
>She directly adds 900
False advrtisement. I alrady told you, you have 820 at most.
>At W0 it's a 5% HP
Do you want me to clap to this?

>If you're saying trigger's 35% / 55% permanent stun multiplier increase is a one to one increase to an agent's sheer force
It's actually even better than that, it's its own seperate multiplier. But since you're retarded at math, this explanation will be lost on you.

>At W1
It's retardedly weak, and only +10% average above Weepib cradle.
Fools like you don't comprehend how mihoyo have crippled Kaboom for Rupture, to the point where weak engines like Lucia Sig barely even reach 10% above Weeping.
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/gig/ is literally unuseable. At least our thread isn't that bad yet
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>>545832992
Why?
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>>545831876
You get a free selector, so can always pick ehr with that. Your best F2P character is the pink haired bimbo here. Just don't stress much since the only harder things are DA and SD and you can ignore them for now and just roll for who is hot. You can grab a meta support since support matter way more next time on comes around for the team you end up liking
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>>545833132
full of schizos talking to themselves. they've been at it for a few days now. probably even longer
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>>545832992
What is happening now?
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>>545833132
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>photo event
>give Yiddy 100k HP
>she still hits like a wet noodle
Why??
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>>545832530
This math is super wrong. DMG% doesn't apply directly into sheer force.
It's place somewere else and will be saturated by the other DMG buffs the rupture agent has.
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What's a good team comp for Miyabi if I'm too retarded to play mono-ice?
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>>545833132
>talk about game
>get ignored
It's that bad.
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>>545833547
Vivian Yuzuha
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>>545833275
>>545833565
Thank god we're not active or numerous enough to make that possible here
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remember when we got all those 2.5 leaks yesterday? that was pretty cool
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>>545833701
It was like that last thread.
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>>545833565
Just like in /ZZZ/!!
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>>545833763
Not everyday can be an everything sandwich
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>waaaah waaaahh I want to talk about the GAME
Go back to discord or r*ddit. The shithole where you can't call anyone a fucking retarded brown moron if you want to "talk" about the game so much, retard.
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People always get butthurt when you use Trigger with Rupture.
Even when you use Trigger with electric rupture in the future, the butthurt is inevitable.
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>>545821653
LATINA WIFE
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There is no gameplay to talk about. Everything is known because there's no depth aside from "use this agent to buff this agent"
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>>545834235
I can smell the seething shitter coming off this post
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>>545831424
Where is this from? Vivian wasnt involved in the summer event so wtf is this?
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what the fuck
who the fuck pays taxes even
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>>545832824
> All Ad hominums and non arguments
Even with the flat buff at 780 she's already beating trigger at equal investment with the sheer amount of buffs she provides. Whether you think W1 is a scam or not is irrelevant

>>545833491
Some short cuts to find the equivalent value to sheer force, but if you want, I'll plug it into a damage calculator.

>>545833998
You can run trigger with Rupture, no one cares. It's just stupid to think trigger at equal cost is better than Lucia for rupture teams - if anything, you can run both if you want
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>>545834913
Aww an agent story that isn't about dead parents
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>>545834920
>no one cares
Asbergers will be upset because you're wasting the DEF ignore from trigger engine, even if you don't have the engine.
>if anything, you can run both if you want
They will insist Dialyn is better.
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>>545834913
What, are you expecting TOPS to pay taxes instead of plebs like (You)? lol
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>They will insist Dialyn is [HEADCANON]
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Fufu is so fucking dumb ngl senpai
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>>545835476
If Zhao weren't a furry they would absolutely insist Dialyn is in lesbians with her.
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>>545835579
Sex is good for building muscles, fufu...
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>>545835236
Dialyn on the beat right now is broken as fuck and you could get like 60k on a DA boss naked, so I would agree.
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why is Shifu such a fucking bum
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>>545834920
>Even with the flat buff at 780 she's already beating trigger
She wouldn't.
It's x1,55 when unstunned.
x2 when stunned
+ King of Summit is stonger than Moonlight.

Trigger is the stronger support because they restricted Lucia, they have other plans for future Rupture supports.
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Not pulling Dialyn cause she looks like a down syndrome child, busted or not.
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>>545835236
I mean if we get Elec Rupture, I can see the argument for Trigger + Rupture. I don't know enough about Dialyn either way to say one way or the other
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>>545836330
Trigger's damage multipliers work with everything. I don't even use her with any attack agent consistently, I use her mostly with Yanagi or Shifu.
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Look I figured it out going back and looking as Astra first tweet, do you see it?
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>>545835579
You are nigger
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Trigger could do 1 damage and I feel this guy would try to say she does a billion. People have done the math my dude, you just keep making up random shit with no proof trying prove math wrong for some reason
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>>545835579
Dumb girls are cuter
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>>545836303
>x2 when stunned
Wait, this is only against Elites.
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>>545837161
ur just mad cuz you got no Trigga, my nigga.
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please send me the comfiest yidhari possible
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>>545837317
I have her, I use her and you're a dumb ass
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Aftershock won't even work in co-op, unless each player is allowed to pick 2 agents.
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>>545837379
>I have her
I don't believe you.
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>>545836303
>x2 when stunned
???
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Post fufu
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I use Trigger with Lucia and Yixuan because she the only limited stunner I have
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>>545837370
zzz... zzz...
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>>545837161
Most likely the case but I went and did the calcs again anyways this time using the formula from the rentry links and it's still not close. Even if you give Trigger KotS, Lucia + Moonlight out buffs rupture. It's just someone being dense
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>>545834194
huh
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>>545837702
No
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Do we have a polychrome count for 2.4
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>>545837634
x1,8
Plus all the free Chain attacks you get in each stun.
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I like Komano Manato.
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>>545838145
You have WORMS
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>>545838070
seriously, why did he do it?
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>>545835980
shifu love
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>>545838651
He sense her traitorous thoughts
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>>545837841
Multiple errors in your calculation. You don't take into account oversaturation of DMG, nor do you hav Stun window calculations.
And... the +5% HP does not give you x1,35 Sheer DMG multiplier. This is super wrong.
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is this the same anon who triggered the kaboom vs bashful argument lol
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>>545838974
>kaboom vs bashful
Who won in the end?
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>>545838810
>Multiple errors in your calculation
>In a calculator made for this that everyone agrees is right and uses
??????????????????????????? Now you're just shitposting
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>>545827960
It is I, Mibibi. A girl with red hair recommended me a new training for stress relief. It is called "call obaka-san a baka" training.

baka.

It seem to be working, I feel better already.
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>>545839041
energy regen. obviously
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>>545839068
5% HP is roughly 92 sheer force.
Not a x1,35 multiplier
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>>545839041
kaboom wonned
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>>545839041
kaboom who would have fucking guessed right?
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We want the next ZZZ area to be France. Do you agree?
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>>545839309
Anon probably wasn't aware of how powerful Quick assists were at that time.
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>>545839390
Japan since were getting Idols next after China land
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>>545839390
No thanks.
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>>545839390
We know that already anon
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>>545839390
Brazil region with bossa nova bgm
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we need more males
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>>545839403
It's more we always get these retards that scream the calculator is wrong or something because they want a gent they like to better and always are wrong
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>>545839390
I wouldn't go to France
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>>545839390
Idealized France, sure. Modern France, fuck no
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>>545838070
gay
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>>545839068
It's more because Trigger actually creates stun windows which bumps the multiplier from 1,55 to 1,8
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>>545839165
See the formula for the Sheer Damage mod for yourself. You have to calculate the total Sheer force increase yourself which is (2486+780+92- 2486)/2486. That's 35% increase in sheer force when adding both the flat 780 and the 92 from the W0 example. It's not just the 5% HP increase converted which is like 3% by itself.
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We need less males and more cunny
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We need less homos and less pedoshit, despite what flips and indogs say.
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>>545840040
True
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We need more gibs
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Trigger won.
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>>545839882
It has occurred to me that those sheer force buffs should go into the base damage calculations rather than the Sheer DMG Modifiers. I don't think those are the same. This is based on the very 1st hit of the auto combo for reference

>>545839856
Incorrect, Trigger only gives your stun window an extra .35% / 55% modifier. That buff you're talking about is when the enemy is in stun in addition to what trigger provides. If we add stun window, Lucia's numbers also go up proportionally. If you want more stun windows with Lucia + rupture, you add in another stunner of choice
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>>545837841
In reality it's more like this when you use them with Yixuan.
You're going to get the saturation effect, which will make Lucia's DMG% gain be slightly less than they appear to be at first glance.
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>>545840040
We need more of both.
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>the 3 simulation mode bosses are yidhari shill, alice shill, and seed shill
so wtf do i do? run yixuan against the yidhari one?
wait for banyue?
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>>545838261
No, I don't live in a third-world country like the Philippines.
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Why do femcels and gay freaks still play this game?
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>>545841328
you don't NEED the shilled character to beat them.
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>>545841502
but muh 400k points with all w0
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>>545840949
>That buff you're talking about is when the enemy is in stun in addition to what trigger provides. If we add stun window, Lucia's numbers also go up proportionally
Lucia isn't a stunner.
Trigger with Dialyn = more stuns
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I refuse to finish the new event
I don't want to see Dogshit
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trigger is better guys trust me dont look at the spreadsheet and run double stunner yes yes
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How do I lycone?
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>>545841831
GO TO THE BEACH WITH BIBI
NOW
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>>545841990
hold your attacks. ex special and parry assist are the ones that reduces the enemies ice resistance.
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Fufu's here!
https://files.catbox.moe/zp0azb.webm
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>>545842113
so I should never bother with him on the field?
either parry him in and out or bring him in and use EX like some support like Rena?
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>>545817374
1001714818
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>>545841972
If the stunner provides stronger buffs than the support, it would be best to use double stun.

As it stands, Lucia just barely edge ahead of trigger.
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i NEED yuzuha
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I rolled for Vivian but I don't know how to play her. No her trial didn't help at all.
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>>545841096
The DMG modifier isn't the only thing she buffs (Nearly half of which comes from disk). She gives equal Crit Mod buffs naturally and either the Base Damage increases or the Sheer DMG Mod increases - I just don't know which one it is. Either results show her buffs massively outperforming Trigger.

>>545841621
Are you saying Dialyn + Trigger gives you 180 outside of stun because, outside of shill buffs and boss conditions, Trigger's kits at M0 and M1 literarily only say +35% or +55% at all times. At this point, you're now talking about what team comps are better which can vary based on playstyle and on what the individual rupture character wants. There's such a thing called stunning too fast. At least Yixuan wants time to build her ults - can't speak to the other 2 because I don't play them but my bet is that they perform better as Rupture + Lucia + Stunner.
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>>545842194
if you have a good on-field dps that is not in a big hurry to have the enemy stunned, yes. besides applying the ice res debuff from those two attacks the only other reason to bring him on field is to stun the enemy faster.
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>>545842534
same im getting better scores with nicole in her place
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>>545842574
>There's such a thing called stunning too fast.
You charge up ult with Yixuan, then you EX with Dialyn. It shouldn't be a problem.
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>>545842534
Do auto combo for one orb. Press Ex Special for 3 orbs, ult gives you 5 (MAX) orbs. When she's in the air, switch to the character you want to play and watch her go boom. Now, whenever you proc anomaly, they will explode. Make sure to switch her in when you see the purple balls are empty and repeat from step one.
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>>545842534
EX and then fuck off until her circles run out basically
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>>545842534
>he doesn't know
Retard
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which disc do I farm for Ellen?
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Just a reminder that calling people calling 2.5 a "soft relaunch" are retarded and took the doompill, consciously or not.
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>>545842574
>The DMG modifier isn't the only thing she buffs (Nearly half of which comes from disk).
It's the thing that make up most of the difference in your original calculation>>545837841

Try input 1,9 Base like I wrote here>>545841096
Yixuan has 60% from her core, and 30% from her disc 5.
And actually she also has 16% DMG from her Sig.
So try to input 2,06 into Base and see what happens.
Suddenly Lucia looks less impressive.
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>>545817374
Henlo, 1006336044

Someone please talk me out of taking a two hundred dollar loan in an attempt to get Yidhari's nameplate(s), I love her so much but I need to buy things like food and gas..
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i like to meme about relaunches
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Leak the Jane Doe skin NOW
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>>545842801
Sure, no one said that wasn't an option, but it's not the best option for Yixuan in this case when Lucia exists. You just drop Trigger if you care about the best score but you do you man
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its been a good run but i cant clear with billy anymore
maybe dialyn would help but id rather roll banyue so until 5 star alt i guess
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primal sex with Pulchra
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>>545843169
it's probably star rail players who get one recycled event per patch, so when they see ZZZ actually getting content they call it a relaunch
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>>545820403
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>>545843272
>not the best option for Yixuan in this case when Lucia exists
Lucia is just some extra DMG% compared to Trigger. Something Yixuan already has in abundance.
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>>545843169
People are just memeing anon, they will call 3.0 a relaunch too.
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>>545837747
I keep seeing the nose shadow as her mouth
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>>545843346
Seen someone on the beat do 62k to the new boss with Corin, her and Nicole, so probably
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>>545843230
If you die of starvation you won't be able to look at her namecard.
Save slowly for a rerun.
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>>545843434
>People are just memeing anon
Sure they are.
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I'm trying to get the Cerberus' Keeper title and I'm losing my fucking mind.
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>>545843645
The only arcade game titles I have are from Bizarre Brigade and Mach 25. FUCK SNAKE DUEL AND SOUL HOUNDS.
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>>545843586
We're probably going to all die in nuclear hellfire before then is my main worry
>>545843703
WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSE????
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>>545843218
Lucia is still looking pretty good. If you want me to reverse Base DMG and Sheer DMG Mod, I can do that too if you want to see if it changes anything.
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>>545843703
what are thooooooose
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i heard they're relaunching the game because seed flopped
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>>545843703
made to store my cum
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ill seed seed so that maybe our seed will be more meta than seed
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>>545843949
Is 3.3k atk, 88%crit rate and 120% crit dmg good for Flora?
I feel like I can do better
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>>545843865
Is big update = relaunch these day
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>>545843784
>Lucia is still looking pretty good.
31% ahead.
Initially your calculation claimed Lucia was 59% ahead.

The confidence you gained from the 59% figure was sort of false. That's what people refer to when they call out the saturation effect.
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I dont care for meta I simply play how I enjoy and look at titty too
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Hari is so fucking fun. She’s like they took Beidou, already very fun, and made her an S rank on fielder. My only regret is I need around a week to finish hamster caging her so I can do a proper DA run. Other than that shes great.
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>>545844290
doomjeets are very upset devs want to improve the game
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>>545844139
sounds good but idk i dont have her
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>>545844426
>hamster caging
i have never used a single one i forgot this was a thing
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Just woke up, why is Pagby getting buffed again? Where the fuck is my Caesar buff???
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How many relaunches do we need
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>>545844858
Nta but same, I have over a dozen so Lucia and Yidhari are about to get bass boosted
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what the fuck is a pag and why are retards here so obsessed with attaching it to everything
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i want to cuddle with yidhari
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>>545844964
>t.pag
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>>545844940
every day i relaunch the game to do my dailies
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>>545844964
Phat assed girlfriend(s)
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>>545844964
Mihoyo community on 4chan sort of av aids and will call you Asian if you disagree with their opinion.
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>>545844941
they felt so limited at the start with characters needing 5
ill cage my anby
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>>545844290
It's a relaunch because the devs are clearly panicking and throwing whatever they can at the wall trying to bring people back after OBOL's historic flop.
They don't actually have a vision which is clear by the adding of co-ops slop that literally no one asked for.
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>>545842082
How did vivian end up as Bibi?
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>>545844964
AGP freaks' least boring insult
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Defiler is too hard
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seed and obol succsneeded
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It's a relaunch because retarded headcanon
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>>545844426
>She’s like they took Beidou
Take my wife's name out of your mouth. Yidhari plays like shit and is nothing like Beidou. Fucking Ben is closer to Beidou than she is.
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>>545844368
Fair enough
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>>545845156
because shes called bibian
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>seed succsneeded
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A Anby is the worst agent, right? Is there ever a time when she's preferable to literally any other stunner?
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>2.5 HAS SO MUCH CONTENT BRO
>ZZZ IS SAVED
>*look inside*
>It's just some buffs for older units and possible coop mode that nobody asked for
Do we just have literal shills in this thread? What is going on? This is the most nothingburger "content" imaginable. if I don't give a shit about multiplayer (if I did I wouldn't be playing a SINGLEPLAYER game) or the older units who are getting buffed, what is in it for me?
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>completely rework gameplay
>completely rework characters
Yup, that's the third relaunch.
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>>545844964
A quick googling and I'm pretty sure "pag" refers to pagpag, a stir fry dish made from literal dumpster-diving food scraps in the Phillipines. Which means it probably refers to brown SEAmonkeys who think the world should cater to their garbage tastes.
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>>545845348
your image denoted mental illness and your post confirms it. haha
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>>545845336
I hate all slow attacking characters as a team's main because I prefer to just go apeshit
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Shunguang is defense is the new Yidhari's tentacles are fake. A moronic theory championed by braindead retards.
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zzz cannot survive without adding pvp...
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>>545844964
>what the fuck is a pag and why are retards here so obsessed with attaching it to everything
It's a retarded made up word used to label anyone certain posters here dislike, it has no actual meaning beyond being a negative label for the sake of being a negative label. You will never get an actual straight answer from anyone as to it's meaning because it has none.
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>>545845348
This general is full of hypebeasts. They hype up nothingburgers like it's the second coming of Christ. People suddenly pretending they care about S11 and Grace is laughable.
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We need to add gameplay
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>>545845348
I asked for co-op mode.
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>>545845479
The monkey's paw curls and we get permanent autochess event
I was top 3% btw :^)
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>>545845348
Shhhhh it's a relaunch
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doomjeets seething anger over 2.5 is a sight to behold.
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>>545845526
>gacha
>gameplay
Pick one and only one
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sneed status?
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>>545845586
2.5 is a new beginning for Zenless Zone Zero
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>>545845651
Sucked and fucked
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>>545845240
+35% increase is roughly like upgrading your ruptue unit with a Sig engine.
So going from Trigger to Lucia is like that sort of upgrade.

This will be at the cost of 1-2 Stun windows probably
Lucia would still be ahead. Just not as much as we previously thought.
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>>545845118
They literally said it in their interview that they'd release co-op later though. This was planned already.
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>>545845510
Maybe people don't care about them because they suck? I like their designs. But if they're going to buff them I wish they would buff Anton too because I'm a faggot
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>>545844964
pags are swarthy southeast asians like flips and malays who ruin every gacha community they touch
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>>545845651
profitable and successful
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>>545845651
>BiS teammate for future VH Shunguang
Seed Won. Crybabies of /zzz/ lost. Bigly.
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>>545845651
Flipped and flopped
Slipped and slopped
Plipped and PLOPPED
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>>545845651
freshly fertilized
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>>545845734
I want them to buff Ben so I can use the ZZZ-tier ATK%/CR/CD/DEF% set I have ready for him.
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>>545845726
>https://www.dbltap.com/features/zenless-zone-zero-zhenyu-li-interview-zzz-season-2
forgot source
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>>545845726
doomjeets don't care about facts
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maybe i want to fuck pulchra imagine the sex with her soft furr
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>>545845689
A relaunch one might say
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SEED IS FOR DPS
DEEP PENETRATIVE SEX
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zzz is going back to the roots
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I finally got a 20k clear in DA, bros. Though I have the sneaking suspicion Wandering Hunter is much easier than most bosses.

Still, a win is a win.
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>>545845931
Get back in my head voice number 4
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STOP being excited for leaks. The only proper way to conduct yourself on /zzz/ is to whine about everything every hour of the day in between bouts of randomly seething over certain characters.
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>>545846015
nice one
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>>545845921
Do we really need more Bangboo events...
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>>545846227
>randomly seething over certain characters.
Wise, Fufu, Yixuan, Vivian, any active banner agent, Miyabi, male agents, Seed...
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i just dropped the pie base i spent 4 hours making
zzzigger for this feel?
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>>545845461
Fake tentacles was a good theory
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>>545846367
I'm amazed how controversial Lighter remains to this day.
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>>545846454
It was just as fucking dumb as every other time one of you retards thought a thiren had fake animal parts or that Miyabi's hand was a prosthetic even though it's clearly not in her mindscape art.
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>>545846501
whats wrong with lighter?
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>>545845348
>Do we just have literal shills in this thread?
No, Hoyodrones are just that easy to please. There's still nothing to do in this game.
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>skipping yid and fufu
>skipping cyrene and remembranceslop
>already got c1r1 nefer
>already got zani
not being able to roll on anything is suffocating, what’s even the point of waking up today
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>>545846596
Maybe try playing some games that don't feed your gambling addiction.
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>>545846596
based
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>>545846596
>already got zani
omegabricked sadly
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>>545845713
I mean sure, I can agree with that but this whole thing started because some anon was adamant that Trigger was leagues better than Lucia and her buffs were basically outclassed on rupture teams which was just completely wrong
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>>545846828
Um..
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>>545846596
time to start a new gacha to get your fix
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>>545846556
There's still no explanation of their transparency and why are they coming out of some rainbow hole. Comparing it to Miyabi's hand is retarded. I bet it was just an initial idea that got scrapped in the end.
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>>545846596
>already got wind asparagus
>already got c2 silent salt
>already got c3 awakened white lily
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>>545846828
Wrong tab?
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>>545846862
He probably has Pheobe.
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>>545846828
Disgusting
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>>545846828
Delicious
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this is the best I can do
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>>545846865
It actually began here>>545822970
When some Anon was upset at Trigger being used to support Electric rupture.

Guess what happens in Trigger vs Lucia when you enhance Trigger with 75% Daze...
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>xe's still defending fake tentacle theory after the game itself says xe's wrong
jesus christ
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>>545847019
I don’t, recently started and got her because she looks like an Eve ripoff
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>>545847310
>defending
You are retarded
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>>545847197
>homomasa
I see the issue.
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>>545847197
you skipped yuzuha?
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>>545847223
There's nothing wrong with the follow up response >>545823163 because you either make her a pseudo supporter or you go all in with def shred / stun but then we get off the rails here >545824013
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>>545847361
Oh. Well you need Phoebe then because she's junk without her.
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>>545847197
Man, I got 20k on Wandering Hunter using Manato without Lucia or Panda. What the hell?
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https://files.catbox.moe/u7w68j.jpeg
Thoughts?
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>>545847361
Zani is one of THOSE characters who needs a hyper specific team to work in tower or WiWa. But at least you can still use her for overworld and low tower floors so cheers. Also she has an extremely good character quest. Zenless Zone Zero
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>>545847560
disgusting garbage. I regret clicking. mods were a mistake.
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>>545847558
They attempted to Miyabi proof him
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>>545847663
Describe it
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>>545843375
I want to use Pulchra but I cant really find a team to fit her in
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>>545847718
Coomer mods gone too far
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>>545847747
shes ass (literally)
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>>545847747
shes good with alice and yuzu
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>>545847536
>then we get off the rails here >545824013
For the electric Rupture, you will have Trigger + her 75% Daze

I'm still not sure Lucia can beat that.
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electric rupture?
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>>545847950
>those Elysia numbers
what the fuck
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When I was 15, the thought of an apocalypse never troubled me.
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>>545847950
white tier ass won
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I wasn't planning to get Yidhari but I was feeling an itch to pull so I just did one ten pull and got her. I'm feeling kind of mixed right now since I already have Miyabi and her engine. I have just 60 pulls for every character after Banyue
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>>545847197
I think you can easily get 3 stars in the first two bosses if you shift some members around, but Defiler with that team will be your hardest challenge so I would try to clear it first before wasting time on the others
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>>545848193
>>545848036
Anon stop... they are supposed to be pure...
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What triggered the cuck
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>>545848025
What? Are they low or something?
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>>545847909
Or you just play them together. Because now Trigger is competing with Dialyn or even Ju Fufu, not Lucia.
Elec Rup / Trig / Lucia ~ Elec Rup / Dialyn / Lucia >>>>> Elec Rup / Trigger / Dialyn.
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>>545848290
he hates it when no one takes the bait
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>>545848347
They are everrnight tier currently, but at this rate won't beat phainon.
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Mihomo owes me a cosplaythot gf
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>>545848414
Eh, I guess I kinda get it. At least with how I see the finale. I don't dislike Cyrene, but I honestly don't see any value in having her on my account.
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>>545848374
Or I couuld play dual stunner.

In my opinion, Lucia's Sheer buff can actually be replaced entirely if your matchup favours some extra stuns.
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>>545847950
>Kurene
wut? thought her name is pronounced as Saireen.
>>545848090
I would rather lose than win with asses like these.
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>>545848648
Yeah with 4.x close, a new meta is coming and more powercreep.
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>>545821520
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>Retarded anon argues Trigger is better than Lucia for Yi Xuan when she can't even beat Qingyi in those teams.
>When push comes to shove, people are just going to use Lucia/Qingyi and Drop Trigger.
Very funny.
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>>545848668
At this point we're talking about a hypothetical of a hypothetical man, I don't know what else to tell you. I'm not saying it isn't viable but it probably won't be optimal. If that's what you want to do then just do it.
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>>545849096
She’s going to sell half of Seed. Seed won.
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>>545849096
wtf shit outfit = shit sales?
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>>545849051
Just pointing out 75% Daze is more than 2 engine worth of advanced effects.

If the difference between Crippled Trigger vs Lucia is simply equivalent to Sig engine of Voidhunter,
then adding 75% daze to uncripple Trigger might result in something else.
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Should I roll to fap to modded Yidhari
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Shifu rabu!
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>>545847197
>Sub 100k combined score
You are a shitter. No one here will take you seriously.

I bet you're one of the niggers skipping the VH as well.
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>>545849615
>only rolling the VH because you care about score
Soulless. I'm going to skip Shunguang twice as hard, now.
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I'm pulling horse only because she's cute. I don't give a fuck about VH
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>>545849807
That's your right.

Just as it's my right to call you a shitter who barely scrapes his shitter ass across the finish line every 2 weeks.
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>>545849528
her sig, with rainforest gourmet not far behind (assuming both at same refinement)
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>>545849926
>Calling someone useless for playing with their favorite characters
>Thinking you're a badass for using the most overpowered characters to win
KEK
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>>545849807
>Skipping
You don't have her bis teammate anyway even if you rolled her, faggot.
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>>545849426
NTA but you're retarded.
Trigger is worse than Fufu in all Rupture teams and worse than Qingyi is Yi Xuan team. She's not competing with Lucia.
What needs to be understood is that Lucia provides large amoung of buffs, most if which are undiluted during stun, where most of (for example) Yi Xuan's dmg happens.
During stun, Trigger's buffs goes from 35% at M0 to just 23%, which is pathetic compared to what Lucia gives. Qingyi gives 55% there in comparison.
And Trigger's weapon is comletely useless for rupture unlike Lucia or Qingyi's.
Trigger is absolute dogshit for rupture and anyone who says otherwise is mentally challenged.
>B-But you stun faster in doyble stunner team
And what would Yi Xuan do without decibels and adrenaline during those stuns? Spam basic attacks?
Fucking idiot.
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>>545849926
trvked that casual
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>>545847197
>6 stars
What more do you need? Ignore the Brazilians and Malaysians who demand you get a bigger score. The only thing these monkeys think about is being jealous of other people for bigger numbers. Let them cope and seethe and remember you don't live in a favela and aren't brown.
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>>545849926
This post made that bitch reply again seething at developing countries
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>>545849926
I literally stop trying once I hit 20k and let the timer run out because there's no point to high scores.
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>>545849958
thanks
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>>545847950
We NEED her
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>>545849926
>anon thinks using stronger characters makes him more skillful
I'll respect the guy who used Corin to get a 60k clear, but you're literally relying on a wheelchair for your clears by insisting on getting every VH.
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>Barely gets 16k
>KEKYPOW ALL YOUSE NEEDS ISSA 6 STAR LOOK AT ME THE SMART ONE
>Next cycle
>HP increases
>16k becomes 14k aka below 2star rating even
>AIEEEEEE WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING NO NO NO NO NO IT'S NOT MY FAULT IT'S NOT MY FAAAAULT
rope.
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>>545850545
>a third rehash
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>>545839390
If they gave us romanticized french stuff yeah that'd be cool, nothing nu-french though gayest country on earth
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>>545849615
>I bet you're skipping the VH
Pretty sure that anon will roll Zhao but you can get 185k score in this rotation with only M0P1 units without using a "Void hunter" or a shilled "Void Hunter level" agent. In fact, the most optimal course it to avoid using them at all because Miyabi is worse againstvrupture and there's no ether weak enemy this time.
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I got 20k for the first time this DA rotation so I think you're all very silly for worrying about scores this much.
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>>545845065
>asian
we're being specific here, you don't see us memeing on the japanese because they aren't flooding my english speaking websites like SEA creatures do
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>>545849308
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All of you are shitters.

KYS

>NU UH YOU WHALED ITS NOT FAAAAIR
No mindscapes. Minimal Sigs (1 per team at most).

Interknot + BP only.
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>>545839390
>pedocountry
Maybe we'll finally get that shota agent that anon is begging for.
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>>545850891
A surprising number of people think SEA refers to anything east of India, despite it not including Japan/Korea/China.
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>>545845348
Don't use my wife to doomkek shitpost.
kys
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I don't care what buffs they give I'm never activating Mindscapes on S Rank Agents. Only pieces of shit do that.
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>>545847560
Damn the Chinese are into THIS?
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>>545850981
Doesn't count if you used a Void Hunter or Void Hunter Equivalent (Yixuan).
>>545851074
What if you luck out and get a free mindscape on the initial pull? Also what about your Standard S-Ranks?
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>>545850879
>>545850981
I'm a little sardine and I could still get 45k every run consistently. 2 - 3 resets at most.

Stop making excuses.
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>>545851074
Even your standards?
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>>545850627
OH NO HE WON'T GET HIS 1/4TH OF A PULL

I have claimed 9 stars every time after the first time I got 9. DA is shit content.
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>>545847950
>All that money
Just to be a worse game, my condolences.
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>>545851156
9 stars means nothing.

If you get sub 100k score you're a filthy subhuman to me and deserve zero, I repeat zero respect around these parts.
>Proof?
Yeah, right here >>545850981
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>>545851136
Nah. There's no point to getting more than a 6* clear, so why should I try harder? Boss fights are fun but playing for a score isn't fun.
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>>545850981
>uses Yixuan, Fufu, Lucia / Yuzuha, Alice, Vivian / Seed, Orphie, Trigger
>only gets 40k per team
LMAOKEKYPOWPOW
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>>545851261
you're 17 so no one really cares about your worthless idea of respect
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>>545851261
You are proud of clearing garbage content.
>hurrrrr shitter
Nigger, I'm quitting this boring ass game after 2.6.
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>>545851136
If you used Miyabi or Yixuan then you're just as much a shitter as anyone who gets sub-20k clears with non-Void Hunters. VH teams should be getting 55-60k.
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Uh oh 6 star nigger melty
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>>545851261
>anon waves around his e-peen because the real one wouldn't impress anybody
Nah I'm gonna stick to pushing fully A-Rank teams as hard as I can while you rely on your meta crutch teams that someone else figured out for you.
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>>545851375
If you're a delusiontroon that would be so perfect, everyone would celebrate you uninstalling just like your parents would celebrate your suicide
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>>545851498
>meta crutch teams that someone else figured out for you
>Seed
Retard
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i know we're winning when the shitposting are getting actually mad in the responses.
>2.5 is giving us co-op and standard banner buffs
things Honktroons can only dream of.
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>>545851502
This game doesn't pander to heterosexual men. It's yuri and homo shit
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>>545851502
Holy based, fuck pedotrannies
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>>545851542
>he rolled seed
>thinks his opinion matters
Holy shit I didn't realize I was arguing with a literal subhuman. Probably a SEAlander.
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>>545851394
>55k to 60k
Show me a VH run that has them getting that in one try with no resets
R2 spends hours on Miyabi and only manages to shit out a 60k once for his epeen j*wtube upload
stop strawmanning
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>>545850223
>What needs to be understood is that Lucia provides large amoung of buffs
It's the same circus with you clowns.
Lucia's buffs are garbage, barely above Trigger with the margin of a Sig engine>>545844368


>And what would Yi Xuan do without adrenaline
That's not how Yixuan works. When you no longer have adrenaline, you have her Ult. When you use her Ult, you gain Adrenaline and means to regenerate more adrenaline.
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>>545851678
sorry about your skill issue bro
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>>545851552
>co-op
>fight same fight you always fight for a score
>other fag in your guild does it too
>if your total score is high enough get rewards
wow, so exciting
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i rolled seed
i like seed
i hope she is best for shung so i can laugh at doubters again just like S-anby
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>>545851716
>he can't come up with an example
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>do DA
>fight the same bosses
>do HZ
>fight the same bosses again
>do NM
>fight the same bosses again
>do SD
>fight normal mobs with higher health
Nice game faggots
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>>545851552
I’m jealous of HRT support function because I can use someone else’s E6W5 firefly. I’ll never know how good the paypigs have it in this game.
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>>545851726
>more content is bad okay?
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>>545851131
>>545851150
Even standards. I have M2 Koleda and M2 Lycaon technically but they will never be activated. I don't activate any Mindscapes on A Ranks until they are M6.
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>>545851851
Isn't that every gacha game? Instead of selling you good replayable content they sell you shiny new characters you can use to clear the same old content faster or more easily.
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>>545851889
>more content
>same boss fight again
Where is the new content?
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>>545851074
What is this autism called
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>>545851910
Not really sure what your issue is with mindscapes man, I'm not going to roll for them, but if I luck into a mindscape on the initial pull then I'm not going to refuse to activate it either.
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>>545851394
Aktually I got that 55k milestone. It was bunny that shit the bed for me and dragged it down (couldn't 40k on her)
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>>545851982
It's amazing how many people who play videogames try to prop themselves up with arbitrary elitism based on a variety of self-imposed factors. Like how people said you didn't beat Elden Ring if you used phantoms.
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>>545851952
>entire new co-op gamemode with new rewards, bosses, reworked mechanics for agents like Astra/Lighter/Trigger
you lost
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>>545851910
M2 Koleda is the real Koleda. Activate her.
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i swear every shiyu has had pulchra, bellum and mors since 1.2
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>>545852072
Good for you, that's a great score. But if you're using the deluxe meta team with a void hunter and character(s) that benefit from the shill buffs, you really don't have any room to shit-talk other people for their performance with off-meta teams.
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>HSR makes 15m on even its terrible banners and mediocre story arc endings
What do they spend all the money they make off these retards on? Their game sucks ass.
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Imagine believing this insane larp
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>>545852337
They give it to us, anon, so we can have a better game than them.
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i've been watching the entrance to this place like a hawk since 1.0 and the doorway used to get wider every patch until it stopped in 2.0. did they just forget to continue opening it?
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>>545852293
Yeah but I only have 1 sig (shifu). Most people doing 60k kills are on full M0W1.
Lucia W1 is yuge. I don't have that. Fufu less so but still a noticable powerbump.
Gimme both sigs and I'll 100% kill it easy.
Same for my Obols, notorious sig sluts they are, which have only 1 sig shared among them and can still get 40k+ reasonably well on the initial attempts
>Shit talk
Yes I can
Because you morons gush about 6 star and it's turning me off especially when anons here act as if they're gawdlike pro gamers.
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Upcoming character?
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R a w r . . .
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What level do you guys usually level your agent's 'useless' skills to? I've been raising everything to a minimum of level 7 but that's probably wasting chips right?
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>>545837702
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I think people are upset with Trigger because her EX S is slow to execute,
and when the EX S miss the boss, it means you also miss your King of Summit.
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Is Harumasa actually bad or do you just have to put in more effort to achieve similar results with other units
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>>545852592
When is the last time you took a shower or brushed your teeth?
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>>545852337
they don't have to play the game
they collect a pretty character, look at flashy animations, and see the number go up

ZZZ is technically on mobile but who actually plays it on mobile outside of story or dailies
any hard content requires a m+kb or controller and at least 60 fps

people always post mobile metrics like some sort of gocha/spoiler] but this is, for the most part, an actual game with real gameplay
I'd love to see the breakdown between console+pc vs mobile compared to the other hoyo games but I doubt we'll ever get it

it's still very much the weakest of the main 3 hoyo games, but we're still eating good and it's still making literally millions of dollars every patch
can't even imagine being a HSR player with universal passives or a literal "play the game for me I don't feel like it" button
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>>545852730
>Personal insults
that's how you know you won an argument btw
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>>545852620
>What level do-
1
It stays at fucking 1
Astra's skills besides EX and Ult? 1
Evelyn's skills besides Basic, EX, and Ult? 1
Anomaly Agents? All fucking 1
Leveling every skill past 1 or leveling to 12 makes you a piece of shit
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>>545852592
>when anons here act as if they're gawdlike pro gamers
They're also retarded, but you're equally retarded for letting it get to you.

The majority of people here, and the majority of the ZZZ community in general, range from very mediocre to genuinely bad when it comes to playing the game and rely on power crutches (meta characters, shill buffs, sigs, mindscapes) to achieve even passing scores. And the devs continue to push higher and higher HP totals with every rotation, to boot, so if you're using older characters then the performance gap becomes even wider.

Nobody gushes about 6* clears, though. The majority of people who play just genuinely don't care about getting high scores, they only want the poly, miniscule amount that it is.
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Developers pulled a massive joke on Trigger. They made her so she is super accurate from afar and never miss a shot.
But her EX melee up close miss the fast moving opponentd half the time.
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>>545852337
their new UE5 MMO game
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>>545853067
Sex with tuna
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>>545853067
>UE5
ew
>MMO
gross
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>>545852801
even making 1/10th of the money genshin or hsr makes puts us in top .1% earning game
genshin at-least is an actual, well game of some sort.
HSR is a do nothing autobattler where 80% of their characters only work with one specific team with only a couple exceptions like sunday
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So many of these faggots that make guides for this game have a faggot sounding voice
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>even more Ellen buffs
based
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>>545846581
What evergreen type of content would you like seen added to the game?
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>>545853176
Ive never played HSR, but is it really an autobattler? I thought it was a turn based game like Final Fantasy
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Guys they making fun of us
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>>545853773
Every game with auto is considered an auto battler.
No exception. Doesn't matter if it's a good idea or not.
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>>545853773
Autobattle is good, who tf wanna do the same dailies everyday manually like ZZZ forces us to with fodder enemies
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>>545853864
ZZZ is dying because the game is stale as fuck.
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>>545853864
These homos made me hate Manato.
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>>545853387
Like who?
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>>545852620
11 for all skills on all characters I use. 12 for limiteds and s11.
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>>545853708
Accessories for agents.
Make Pulchra's mask an accessory
I can take off mask.
Same with other agent's garments.
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>>545853864
Who is they and how do they know jackshit about sales when that isn't publicly disclosed and any predictions are incredibly untrustworthy?
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>>545853864
Devs need to play their own game and realize how bad it is
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when is sanby coming back?
I need my thunder
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>>545853981
Trvke, just add a sweep mode, as people get more busy they don’t have time to kill random guards for materials
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>>545854257
Never. Sanby havers wonned, Sanby skippers losted.
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>>545853773
it has autobattle enabled in 99.9% of all content including their (events)
their game actually plays itself and ((playing))) hsr means watching your roster play itself.
there is 0 decision making or skill, every form of HSR content is a dps check with absolutely 0 nuance
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If you don't fight dailies you would only actually play the game once a week. This game is a joke
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>>545854218
What a dumb fucking post.
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>>545854198
Goddamn it man

Pulchra is like the perfect example of fumbling the bag at the end
She's literally perfect, just let me take of her mask! Its so bulky and unnecessary
Fucking devs pussied out
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>>545854218
Unlike shit posters, devs actually know if something is successful or not.
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>>545854218
Devs main as Ellen. occasionally they buff Ellen.
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>If you don't fight dailies you
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A game with lesser males will earn lesser because they’re aiming for a lesser audience. However they also have this boring China ass region to blame which interests almost nobody
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Any of the stories makes me fall asleep. Just have more dates and make the dates better and more interactive.
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>>545853864
honktroon melty, go make mihoyo ten million more dollars just to keep having the worst game out of the 3
>no skin for MC yet
and we're on our 3rd for free LMFAO
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>>545854405
The mask is cool. Wish it was off when she is out of hollows.
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>>545852337
that number has nothing to do with money
LDs on average get about 5G or whatever that hieroglyph is called but the site always shows about 50$m a month, sometimes like genshat honkai shatrail and zZz combined
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>>545854564
When was the last time we had a fully voiced quest tho not riddled with black screens
Also our budget absolutely is being cut, we lost 4th menu animations, 60 FPS cutscenes, EPs for everyone and many more shit
It’ll just get worse as new Hoyo games come out for them to shill so as a ZZZ fan I wouldn’t get cocky
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Hey at least we actually do play the game instead of pressing auto
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I’m worried that by next year Hoyo will not give a shit about this game as they’re shilling HNA, Petit Planet, and that UE5 MMOslop
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>>545854747
>Group Parry
Is it something like a bunch of schmuck parrying the same attack?
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>>545854862
I'm not worried that your stupid ass is worried
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>>545854830
Fufu!!!
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I still think it's curious how some people actually consider spending stamina as "playing the game".
What in the world is "playing the game" about that? You press buff button, you hold attack button and win with Miyabi m2, Alice or any other "battle start big dick attack" character.
Anyone has these now. And for 2 waves you use 2 of them.

I can somewhat understand weekly boss' or this other core passive mat, but that's rarely fought and even then is always the same.
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>>545854560
What's the point if they're gonna halfass it again
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>>545854862
Genshin is over 5 years old and doing well.
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>>545854747
>LF2M Colussus tier 7
>Miss parry and kicked from Guild
I can't wait, it's actually pretty awesome we're randomly getting a new co-op mode with new bosses and mechanics for agents.
We're honestly spoiled, our devs are maximum effort.
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>>545855023
Fuflying
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>>545854862
ZZZ's studio is Dawei's incubator for his grad interns. So most likely some interns are going to those places
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>>545855140
Genshin has pandemic boost and is still the only thing of it's kind that exists across all platforms unless you also count WuWa.
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Spenders left after realizing Yuzuha is fucking a 4*
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>>545855237
Manato is wise exclusive.
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>>545855163
>wow this is almost the same as spinning with HuWei
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>>545855314
That's your cope, of course
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>>545854747
that's anime as fuck I like it.
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>>545855163
fufu hitting a gnarly flip
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>>545855237
pag
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>>545855314
>whorenato
>exclusive
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>>545833132
the last times I was there, it was impossible to talk about the game. doesn't matter if it was a question regarding the lore or regarding the gameplay, all they do is endlessly shitpost about sales, leaks, ships or schizo crap
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manato is innocent and has never been in a romantic relationship before
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Do you think thiren pussy taste different from normal pussy?
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>>545825209
She's 20% worse than shifus best team but she can give Lycaon a job
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>>545855145
Just that nobody is going to play this.

Forcing MMO shit into single player games will not work, because the only people retarded enough to LIKE this are.. you know, playing MMO. Especially shit like "oh look, you failed the mechanic, now you are dead" are only frustrating unless you have discord raid teams where everyone knows everyone actually plays well enough to do mechanics.
Try doing this in random teams.

I will say this here and now: This will be a one time thing and BOMB really fucking hard. There will be no fun, only anger and rage.
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>>545855737
>play well enough to do mechanics
You dont have to be mechanically gifted to press 2 buttons off cooldown
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>>545855737
>Nobody
I'm going to play it!
All of your complaints sound like anti-social shitter cope!
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>>545847197
I just run two bosses for my 6 medals and don't even continue after that
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Lewd
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What do we name the /zzz/ clan though
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>>545855140
genshin's their flagship title, that's like saying not to worry about f-zero being abandoned because they still make new mario games.

>>545854862
That might not entirely be a bad thing, since if hoyo starts caring less then the dev team can get away with more (albeit on a smaller budget).
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/vg/tards really love to brag how they're so good compared to casuals yet have massive anxiety on the thought of playing with others
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>>545856062
Touch FuFu Tail
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>>545851261
true, because actual rewards stop at 6 stars
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>>545856062
Touch Fluffy Tail
No Fun Allowed
these two are always tradition.
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>>545856187
>minimum wage is enough
do you hear yourself
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>>545851261
what's the DA fight you enjoy most for score optimizing?
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>>545856323
>Fluffy
FluFu
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>>545856062
Ziggers
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>>545856401
getting more than 3 doesn't pay above minimum wage
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>>545856062
(((Spook))) Shack
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>>545856481
Yes it does, it gives you the currency to buy freebie dennies and materials
Which equate to saved battery charge
Stop coping.
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>>545856401
minimum is 1 star retard
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>>545856481
>>545856564
Reminder that z coins will be used to purchase awaken materials
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>>545846947
>There's still no explanation of their transparency and why are they coming out of some rainbow hole.
Whats strange is one of Yidhari's Lost Void weapon's icon depicts a portal with tentacles coming out of it that looks identical to the thing on her back where her tentacles emmerge from. Its obvious this was the original idea, that she's not a thiren but a human who is somehow summoning supernatural tentacles from a portal on her back (which is also why they become ethereal during battle) , but then they scrapped the idea and just made her an ovtopus thiren, but didn't remove the portal and actually make it look like her tentacles are a physical part of her.
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can I six star
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>>545856106
genshin is the mario
hsr is the pokemon, low effort slop that coasts along because they know people will buy it anyway
zzz is the kirby, less popular and successful as the others but with a dedicated team that puts their sovl into their game
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>>545856407
Priest, getting the 2nd stun before the phase is kino and when you nail it you get a real sensation of being part of the Big Boy Club™
Same for running ChinkYi on that fight instead of Fufu, it just gives off the impression of
>Yo I know what the fuck I'm doing step the fuck back
Also because Yi xuan is super fun to play with her ani cancels and resource management for stun windows
Its at the perfect balance of being complex enough + rewarding enough to make you feel good for executing it.
Compare that to Miyabi monoice which had you playing like a fucking schizoid supremus and it DOES not feel good to execute despite what the Miyabi merchants would tell you.
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>>545856729
>have Shifu and Miyabi
You're a shitter if you can't with them
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>>545856818
>Shifu
is not a real void hunter, stop this misinformation. Miyabi is still stronger.
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>>545856818
my miyabi does no damage
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>>545856419
cute squirrel thiren
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>>545845421
No arguments detected, I accept your concessions
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>Miyabi
>No damage
Shitposters don't get (You)s.
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>>545856062
Ellen ROE
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>>545857021
u lost co-op looks good and is giving new bosses and content
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>>545856062
Shifu's angels
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>>545846947
Its her skin having a tiny bit of camouflage around her thiren bits. (Headcanon off)
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>>545856751
>ZZZ is kirby
ZZZ isn't consistently good enough to be comparable to kirby, but they do actually kind of hit similar themes. Making friends and having fun in a post-apocalyptic setting, and chilling out until the next monstrosity comes around to try and cause another apocalypse. kirby probably has better stories, though, since it doesn't need to get bogged down by setting details and having to set up future plots.
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>devs are so lost with what to do with ZZZ that they're trying to turn it into a multiplayer action game
I legit don't know whether to laugh or what. It's just kinda ridiculous
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>>545857174
0 ass
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>saves ZZZ
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>>545856650
I'M NOT CRAZY LOOK AT THIS SHIT, you can see when you remove her tentacles that she has what looks like a magical portal where the tentacles come out of. One of her Lost Void weapon icons depicts an identical looking portal with tentacles emerging from it. This is blatant proof that the previous idea was to just make her some human with some weird portal thing that summons ethereal tentacles but the nthey scrapped the idea but didn't rework her model to make them look like a natural part of her body.
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>>545857549
they already planned this since the start of 2.0 though and we knew it was coming see >>545845921
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>>545857656
>we knew it was coming
completely irrelevant to my comment
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>>545857743
completely irrelevant comment by you to doompost?
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>>545857645
It's just clear as fuck that she's a rushed cobbled together asset reuse filler character. Still pisses me off the tentacles clip.
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>>545857852
what doompost? are you having a brown-induced manic episode? I mean I know this is india hours but I'm expecting SOME level of education at least, you managed to turn on the computer after all
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>>545858007
This is the worst try at deflection I think I have ever seen. You were actually trying to spin a positive into a negative out of nowhere for no reason and then try to claim it's not a doompost.
You don't deserve the name Doom. Nothing say or try to deflect with buzzword won't make you look retarded now.
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>>545854198
I agree with you anon. Is it too difficult for us to take it on and off in combat and relaxation moments ?
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>>545857861
>It's just clear as fuck that she's a rushed cobbled together asset reuse filler character. Still pisses me off the tentacles clip.
Everything about her is contradictory

>Her job is a proxy, but she doesn't do any proxy stuff that we ever see (and based on her story she sucks at it because she hallucinates in Hollows and previous agents she led literally quit on her because of it, as we see in one cutscene)
>She's also a writer ontop of being a proxy (???)
>She's a dommy-mommy type in every trailer, but acts like a shy and submissive girl in the actual story
>But she also dresses like a whore, and does stripper poses during battle
>Her entire outfit (which rips off Yixuan's) has no coherent theme, beyond octopus imagery (even though no other Thiren character plasters their animalistic traits all over their outfits and it'd be weird to do so, like you don't see a human wearing monkey imagery on their clothes)
>Is supposed to be an octopus thiren, but her entire design suggests she's just a human with some explained magic portal on her ass that summons tentacles from.....somwhere
>Advertisements have been shilling her with her feet out, even though ingame her feet are completely covered up so she her design doesn't even pander to footfags at all in the first place.

What the literal FUCK were they thinking with this character? ALL of this because they just refused to keep her as the nun she was originally going to be.
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>>545857549
tourist
coop was in cbt
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>>545858720
I usually always feel validated for skipping, but the combination of lucia + yidhari is the most validated I have ever felt for skipping
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>>545857392
kirby games do set up future plots, it’s just not as in your face as zzz because there’s little dialogue and you usually have to look behind the scenes for lore like stuff on void, the ancients, etc
also doing yidhari’s demo i realised she has the same rocket hammer as ddd lol
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>>545858720
What tentacles
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this game needs its Kevin and Elysia to drive up the sales
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>>545858720
>She's a writer ontop of being a proxy (???)
People can have hobbies.

>even though no other Thiren character plasters their animalistic traits all over their outfits and it'd be weird to do so
ellen has the word "SHARK" in big white letters spray-painted on her fucking tail, I don't think the designers believe that it'd be weird to have animal traits show up in thiren designs. Moreover, I think judging a design in this game by realism is unfair, since the game is heavily stylized; they're not going for realism. I agree that it doesn't say much about the character though, that's been a problem with most of the 2.X designs.
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>>545851713
Nigger, you're retarded. You'll still be scoring less in a double stunner comp because you're stunning too fast. You're M1 trigger barely keeps up with M0W0 Lucia in raw buffs where the Lucia team can still run a separate stunner.
> NOOOO, YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND
No, it's your dumb ass who thinks trigger is nothing more than a cope option on Yixuan teams. Retard.



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