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Emergency royal nerf?
lobby tournament games should be guaranteed chests win or lose
>>545882246ideal bodytype
>>545882286Gildaria rally increased to 25, thanks for your feedback.
CHINPO AGERU
>150 vials>50 vials>50 vialsThey are just taking a piss with these rewards
I crafted dirt and lost to absolutely braindamaged swordnigger and a fucking lamp dragon...
>>545883003>swordyeah, sword has zero bad matchups this set, dirt is still one of the best decks holding up against it and thats why it's tier, just because it can beat loot, simple as>dragonit happens, dragon is a gambling highroll, if they win their draws there is nothing you can do about it
Either the bot is really bad or dragon preys on loot
*blocks ur path*
>>545883930loot gets absolutely rolled by puppets
>loot gets absolutely rolled by puppets
>>545884106lol
>you just played Wilbert
He's right.
>>545883930sword does have bad matchups. sword is still fairly consistent depending on the build.
Yugioh collab so we get Ash Blossom to stop these fags playing that homo card
>>545884053bari bari... too strong.....
>>545884215we already had our haru urara
I'm really looking forward to these forest changes, gonna be great to see evo forest reach its full potential :D
>>545884556>Aria super evolution now summons 4 fairies>Also she now costs 7pp>please continue to enjoy shadwoverse worlds beyond
>>545884981thank god this hack got firedinstantly we got 2 cute girls for the battlepass. Meanwhile when the game was at its peak this retard put a black self insert (literally his initials) in instead
Okay, dirt feels impossible to play even in my sapphire pisslow. Great.
>>545885078
>>545885083post deck, yours probably awful
>>545885083post deck, you're probably awful
>>545885214it's not the deck, he's just dogshit at piloting itand no, random minor tweaks like odin/raio/velharia/annegrea don't make or break anything
>>545885207So he just retires mid 40s and thats it? Can go to soaplands every day and probably never feel it on the wallet
Quick breeder should cost 2pp
>>545885083dirt is kinda hard to pilot if you dont get the curve, keep playing it and get good, think about how you win each matchup and dont just boardflood everything
quick breeder and ur breeded, counterplay? non
>>545885214>>545885274Yeah, I'm probably bad at piloting it, I'm megatilted rn. Lost x3 to dragon and somehow lost to fairies. Gotta learn it.
my wives
sinciro should gain storm on sevo
Is it a mistake to hold Cagliostro in hand until she has super skybound? Obviously given that she's not absolutely necessary to play before that.
Parachan was wrong, swordniggers deserve death penalty not life sentence
>>545887001Yes
>>545887001no
>>545887001maybe
>>545887001Can you repeat the question?
>queued up lobby with ramp dragon>every opponents healYou know what? Fuck this shit. Next time I am gonna queue up with OTK Satan
>>545887001I don't know
ward bros...
>>545888092>chinesenow post the real japanese version
>>545888092Does this mean that it's expensive but garbage?
>>545888158the most expensive deckand the worse deck
>queue lobby tourney as puppets>sinciro leader first match
>lucky chest was an animated axia100 more packs until her...
Reminder that Haven got to be meta for exactly one Set and had one of it's cards sledgehammered nerfed (a card everyone swore was shit before), whereas Sword and Rune have been meta for all 4 Sets now and haven't seen a single nerf.
>weekly tourney starts with Eudie saying the grub guild war opening lines
>>545888092how did value abyss become a budget deck?
>>545888438link to full onegai
>>545888620Reminder that fighting sword and rune is fun and winnable and fighting haven was miserable, boring and unwinnable
>>545888694it's slop I made, look at the fingers, do you still want it?
>>545888275as expected there was zero counterplay
>>545888749>winnable
1 elf1 bishop2 witch3 nemesis4 royal5 nightmare
>it's still fucking crest mirror in lobbyI thought it's fucking dead after Benis?
>>545888910this is the worst tier list I've ever seen
>>545885447yes
>>545889135stop downplaying, dragon is t0
>>545888438What the Bahamut doing?
>>545886776This anon is cooking
i am now facing one of the other two portal playersif portal is so broken why we did both lose our first match
>>545889082the deck wasn't ever carried by benis, it was just the fuck you icing on the top of everything else
>>545889439Broken decks attract the worst players
>>545888765Oh
>>545889439egg are good if the highroll thats all
>>545889653Sorry to disappoint
galmoo's butthole..........................
>Portal opponent plays puppeteer on 2>Eudie on 3>Lishenna on 4 (they haven't unlocked evo)>Zwei on 5>Karula on 6
>>545890213karula do nothingtoo strong
>play the stupid ass tournament>game disconnects and won't reconnect no matter what>have to get my phone to play there>skipped my mulligan>i have to fight a abyss faggot with the faggoty ass belial deck This game deserves to burn to the ground
>>545890118weak to anal
>>545889082You still have people play forest, this is the same.
>face 2 dragons in a row on my lobby tourneywhat the fuck
>>545889476the biggest problem with benis was actually the mirror. that's probably why they nerfed it.
>lobby dropped down to 8 players thanks to the crest mirrorHoly shit
>>545890363at least evo abyss has a hard counter unlike loot
>>545891151based
wow what a nice diverse game
Odorokimashita!
>>545891458I played forest until this set and switched to sword. I'm not touching forest with how fucking awful it is right now.
>t4 evo zirc>t5 evo gildaria>t6 sevo zirc>t7 sevo amelia mage>t8 free sevo gildariavery cool game
actually gildaria was t9 t8 was valse and samurai to clear orchis
>>545891793They lost this game.
>>545892003they did not i'm now 1-0 in the final round and don't have an opponent because only 13 players are lefti can leave immediately right?
This is a child!
>>545891458Healthy 1 class meta
>>545892162Proof?
>don't get a single required card in early game>lose
>>545892454>turn 4>didn't drop the op 3 cost ward>somehow blames this on luck
[Shadowverse WB] If anything remains, the game ends. Chimpanzee Royale [Shadowverse Worlds Beyond]
i have an amazing idea guys imagine an aggro deckwith insane board controlbut can only be beaten by board or racinghmmmyes yes this is perfect
>>545893103we know abyss is stupid broken
>how much damage should a single card finisher do?>how about 60% of your health>perfect
>>545892909>op 3 cost ward
>>545892909anon?
This is the second time I've been Lu Wohed and the second time I've still won by playing Orchis when it runs out.
>>545892909
cock blocking belial feels good
based
>>545893651>Lu Wohedhe is fuckin garbage and easy the worst legend of this set
>>545893445>has an additional effect that activates for free>token stays on the boardwhy is elf such a pet class?
>>545893505>>545893653>does nothing>heals for free for doing nothing>tanks 5 quickblader hits if you consider the free heal>this is not opOk haventrannies
>>545894014well said sister, buff Valse!
>>545894205tbui, not being able to kill noah on 6 loses me every game
>>545894353what fucking deck are you playing that doesn't kill noah? I've been playing this game since launch, my portal has more matches than all my other classes combined and i cannot recall a single match where noah has lived past his turn to hit face
>>545894546Valse does not deal 6 damage so I have to diy some garbage play to kill him, if valse does 6 damage then I get to have an ambushed unit for your coin orchis turn which wins me the game.the game should cater to my situation, specifically
>>545894925if only sword had a 2pp card that kills anything it can trade with
>close as fuck to 100% diamond gm>dragon>no sylvia or oguri in handfuck
uh-oh the seething swordbab is back
>>545895054Yeah let me just put hot garbage in my deck
>>545895054no slots they already run zetabea and odinretarded craft
>>545895168i wish portal had a hot garbage 2pp rush bane...
>>545895076wtfthis was my turn 5, he had ramped once but didn't have coin for wilnas
>if it doesn't have the "storm" keyword it's fucking garbageswordtrannies I swear
*clears your board completely, hits your face for 13 and heals five*
Aria should have been 2pp and she should have had a faith crest that activates after putting 10 fairies in your hand
>>545895995Crest haven was a mistake
>>545896123mindbroken
Dead game
And you?
>>545897009Since when did this h*ven sl*t join the good guys?
4 people dropped from the lobby tourney I'm in by the third round. It's over.
yep, ready for some serious rigging..
>>545897360For me it's not just the waiting but lobby tourney matches also feel like shit to play, there's noticeable delay whenever I attack with a follower for example.
https://x.com/maharu_sv/status/1987529746167799973
>>545897360next time I will be roping with crest haven
>>545897872Is this egg or puppet?
>>545898094i don't know....
>>545898094It's a bait
>>545895529Its true at this point. Either you storm them down turn after turn or you watch as they heal up to full every turn and have a wincon.That is the current meta.
>>545897872i watch his stream he climbs with pure puppets and then when he wants to lose rating he plays eggs
>>545898341so what happens with this deck thats both
>>545898502Pretty sure every egg deck uses puppet cards like lancer
>>545897739isn't that just when you're on the big screen
>>545898621Egg decks don't use orchis tho.
>>545888092looks like I'll just puppet
>>545898621yeah but wired assault and orchis are the unusual picks in that
I was gonna go for Masters but sword and puppets killed my momentum
this shit is intense...
>>545898336Yeah and this clownfiesta is solely storm/loot sword's faultYou can't play board vs sword because of sinciro, and even if they already used sinciro or don't have loot cards in hand they still have access to 12~16 board clear + face damage from hand by turn 9The only realistic way to win vs sword is to heal out of lethal range very turn while contesting board, wow such fun and compelling gameplay! Thank you KMR for coming up with this this extremely well designed and balanced craft!
>>545899340Norman's fault. They printed to much healing for rune so they gave sword more storm. Then they printed to much healing for haven so the gave more storm. Then they printed to much healing for abyss so they gave more storm.
>>545898785Egg decks don't use eggs either because the generators are always at the bottom of the deck you might as well use orchis
>>545899891You are delusional and retardedJust about the qualities you'd expect from a sword tranny
Tournament>Free win against do nothing dragon>Win the mirror match because I went first>Lose the mirror match because I went second>Win the mirror match because I went firstBoring kusoge with no skill expression
moooooooooom I'm on the big screen with 2 minutes delay
>>545900004Which came first Norman/Benis or sinciro? You can do basic math can't you?
i misclicked and am going to lose the game because of it
>>545900073did you win?
the good news is i think i lost anyway
>portal pov in every single screenshot
>>545900889It's all starting to make sense now
I always emote when portal uses zwei skin
>>5459006131 more match to go
please give me this so i can stop paying attention and just play aggroslop for faster chests
you already playing it, portalnigger
>>545898724No while playing I often have lag and disconnects but only in the lobby, sometimes I can't do anything in the middle of my turn with a message across the center. If it's on the big screen it looks like I'm roping or an indecisive retard because I have to close the game and reconnect and then my turn is usually over. I think I've developed lobby tourney PTSD from this and will only play them once per season for the cosmetic. My internet works fine.
>portal>Aggro>if ever, it kills people turn 12-13nice aggro retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1i9vJNN8k4it's up
>>545897565(forgot to press post kek)he got counter-rigged it seemsi went second and played +pp baribari, he forgot to put mukan in his deck and blew deathslash on some random shitstain, so his only hope was fediel to recover after taking a billion..
>>545900450I evolved Victoria instead of Zwei recently and conceded instantly.
>anons realize there are portal players here>instantly shift from calling sword niggers to calling portal niggerskek
>>545902330Both are niggers that doing 20+ storm damage from hand every game
>>545902473Your storm haven?They ignore your board far more than puppets
>last 10 blogposts have been portal posts>nooo dont attack my nigger class
>dragon is better now than last seasonI've read anon say this but I'm not sure at all.
>talking about the game is blogpostingWell i guess we should just close the general because this game gets no art we can't live by spamming art like the gacha generals
sorry for playing the game and posting about it instead of vomiting out garbage all day long
Keep posting your portals pov now that the class is broken
anything is better than portalniggers humblebragging
>>545901438Lost the last match cuz the dude put a stealth sniper right on the turn before albert so I had nothing to suicide the cat and could not get the 1 extra damage for lethal.Pretty good play by him. He knew exactly that I'd be 1 short of lethal.
If the next set goes back to 2 tickets it's going to suck spending rupies on it when the chance to get a leader was 4 times higher in this one.Though I guess if it has Vampy that might make up for it.
>>545904096that's why you always hoard one buffed puppet from noah
STOP BEING A WHORE ALREADY JUST COME BACK
>>545904572Why are shadoba girls such sluts?
>>545898336It took SV1 years to reach that point.
>>545904567Sure, if I can. Not every match is perfect.
>>545904517for me it's quantity vs qualityset 2 only has three leaders but i'd take them over this set's leaders outside of wamdusyeah we've got a lot of leaders this set but half of them are dudes and they're also competing with other good leaders. like i'm not gonna use wilnas over el even if i get him
>>545905219this i'm never spending gold on set 4 all the leaders are homos and i already got lucky enough to roll cunny there's no point in rolling more, i'm dumping all my gold in legends rise to get the feet wallpaper
>abyss dropped the evo stuff and went back to mode (1 new card, Baal)>sword stayed with loot (1 new card, Zeta&Bea)>portal got a new finisher that boosted it to t1 (1 new card, Beelzebub)>haven went back to the full crest package (1 new card, Gleaming Gem)>dragon finally got ramp but on a brickstick and is still a meme (2!!! new cards, Zooi and Wilnas)>forest is dead, their only playable deck is running 0 new cardsnot included are Lyria and Randjeet which you can basically throw into any deckRune is the only class that actually got something with 3 currently played cards and also the only class that can make proper use of Sandalwhat a flop of an "expansion". designing cards so that they can only be used with future support is so boring
this is what an honest player's class win spread looks like
>>545905472
>>545905472i kneel honestyGOD have mercy
im so fkin confusedwhich class is the honest deck
am I honest
>>545905472Agreed.
>>545906227forest
Are we going to pretend that this is somehow less cancerous than what swordjeets do?https://files.catbox.moe/gsfq4l.mp4>but actually I deserve it because... uhh, because I played 2 cards, yeah
>>545906323the fast decks
chu
victory!rune mirror/evo apiss/dragon/mode apisspretty easy games overall +pp doublebarrier is complete bullshit1x meme raio was pretty clutch against a modepedoi thought i already have the game after building up a big stack and dropping lila-pass vs their weak board, but he pulled out a fucking meduseless (..the fuck??) and i needed to fight through the great wall of china
>>545906227>based and honest every timedragonsword >usually honest but at times dishonestforestabyss>usually dishonest, rarely honestportalhaven>dishonest every timerune
>>545906323If it were up to me we would have all haven niggers stoned to death at the park
>>545906903I didn't play much when crest was t1
>>545906902>dragon nigger with 10 mana while i have 4>this is "honest"Sure thing buddy keep telling yourself that
>>545906902Wow this anon got it correct 100%
>>545906227if a deck puts followers on the board, without using extra pp, with the expectation or hope it might survive the turn, it's an honest deck
ESPADA GALAXIA
>>545882286valse fanfare and enhance abilities switchedodin from 7sp -> 9sp OR has storm instead of rushthere fixed, should've done this 2 sets ago
>>545906421This is fair because the other faggot is playing a deck that didn't kill you before 8, if you're playing a gay ass stall/otk deck you deserved all the bullshit that comes from being in a match after turn 5 and if he didn't want that to be the case he would be playing aggro abyss or storm sword.
>>545907574rush instead of storm* fuck you know what i mean
>>545907462Marie is browning out again...
>>545907574Don't forget Wilbert losing last words and Lapis costing 11PP.
>>545907574>sneaking odin nerf instead of nerfing sinciro/albertI smell the putrid transexual stench of a haven player
Wilbert bullying must stop
>>545907462
>>545907771>>545907860no point nerfing odin for haven, doesn't fix their inherit weakness and other cards will just be printed to exploit it. Evoing Aether needs to give you:Crest of Honesty: Followers with ward cannot be removed from the field in ways other than combat. (Bane/Banish/Destroy/etc). Followers do half damage in combat the turn they enter the field.
>>545908272why stop there why not make her just win the game after super evo and save time?
>>545908492they honestly should, and then only people who queued 100% haven during the first 2 sets are allowed to queue as haven from now on
>>545908079they need to give him his burn effect back, right now ward is just a nothingburger
>>545907065>class which starts the game with handicap and IF it gets certain cards that are tempo loss MAY battle on the same level of class that just gets retarded value by playing shit on curve>not honestok retardsee how the third ramp card broke dragon right? ahahahah muh ramp cry more nigger
>>545909594so true forest is the most honest craft in the game
>>545909712thanks for sharing
>>545909594>class that players make gimped decks on purpose banking on a dream hand with their shitty op gimmicky and they somehow feel entitled to have perfect matches Fixed
the abyss player played castle draw but didnt he miss lethal? buff with castle, gilne on fox, sevo fox, 8 + 5? or am I going insane and missing somethingI'm sad because I lost to the abyss player by bricking and having no plays till turn 5
i played my 3pp do nothing and my 5pp do nothing i deserve this wilnas drop deal 16 damage to the board and with intimidate or my board vomit 2/2 rush heal back to full & ward on your turn 5.
>tanoshii creeps are doxxing other danchous nowA new low
>>545910405shit
>>545881985JO Kings, ESL GANG, and /svg/ (the one who's danchou starts with E) anons, you should have seen a message in your respective chats about the mergers ongoing. please take your pick from one of the following guilds. if a guild has 0 slots, it may still have week-long inactives the danchous are willing to kick, so ask in the thread.680062178983 - EudiePlapper851607664396 - Elluviaverse122066259564 - Shadowbabs817253747768 - /SVG/550011421438 - Paizuri203149711350 - EssVeeGee368820995170 - 4LeafClovers427026012287 - NoFunAllowed576606695461 - CuteAndFunny932072921863 - Magic Sands455272193501 - Maid4U382492074799 - Shadobabssorry
>>5459097121 craft game
around tanoshii be ready to flee
Going up in rating here barely feels different. Playing a fighting game when I go up in rating a bit I can instantly feel it in my opp's skill. Sometimes it's a huge difference, even. But here, Ruby, Topaz, Diamond, 1600cr 1700cr... All feels the fucking same.
>>545910997that's because this game has a meta and all the retards just copy what 1 or 2 streamers with brains that play their class are doing meanwhile in fighting games people will sometimes adapt on the moment instead of following a limited list of possible moves like a deck of cards
this cope again
>>545910997That's not true. There is a huge gap even between saphire and diamond and I haven't been is ruby since set 2
>>545910997you don't see their hand so you have no clue what decisions they're not making. you can only see the really obvious fuckups
NECROMARYU WA JAKEN NI ARASU
>>545910692Can you please stop doxxing other danchous
>>545911283It's not a cope, it does feel the same outside of when you get really high.But like someone pointed out, it's because you can't see your opponent's hand so you can only notice the really glaring fuck ups. Also, being a card game, there is always the luck factor.
>>545910262Hmm, I didn't know my shadoba gf was a danchou... interesting
>>545910997I dropped to topaz few times and I have no idea how it is possible to drop to emerald.
>>545911523>outside of when you get really high.Or really low.
the actual cope is the 'i watched a streamer for a bit and i would have made the same plays but i'm ruby while he's cr2100' shit
it's okay... maybe after I drop to 1200 cr on forest I'll start having fun... haha....
the top decks play themselves just spam shit on curve and autowin
>>545910262So which one of these is the baggot avatarnigger?
>>545912001If they're not lying and arrived at the plays on their own without the streamer's help, I can't logically see how that's a cope.That being a truthful case I'm going to assume they just get nervous in real matches and lose on the mental aspect.
>tournament lobby is getting hostaged by mode and crestevery fucking time holy shit its been almost 2 hours
>>545910997in sapphire i easily get 10+ game winstreaks cause my opponents make retarded plays while in diamond games become a cointoss most of the time
>go like 12-3 today>2 chests
>>545912303either they're giving themselves too much time to think or they're not watching for long enough/looking at the wrong plays for a comparison. it is absolutely a cope.
>>545912218Any mana based card game will be like this, play yu gi oh
>>545913402>looking at the wrong plays for a comparison>if you got it right he did the wrong playOkay that sounds like you're coping about them coping. You keep making up scenarios.The timer might contribute to making people nervous though. But that just feeds back to what I said. Mental aspect.
>>545913739you're legitimately retarded if that's how you read that post
Why is it if I hold a Sinciro i'm guaranteed to get all three of them by turn 4 but if I throw it away then I'm guaranteed to never see one ever?
Tablet should also banish cards on hands, until you only have one copy of each in both hand and deck.
>>545912303it's a card game after all, you can come to the same play a lot of the time, and with luck you will be able to beat even the best players. but it's the other 30-40% where the better player will come out on top
what do you think about 2 5/5 followers with rush for 5pp?
>drop lovestruck >runenigger alt f4s the match
>>545913938y u flame? maybe he's g*rman okay??
Come.
>abyssit's over
>>545914812Kinda mid
>sakackibara killed wilbert from his crest listthoughts?
Let's conveniently forget that the 2 5/5 followers with rush cost 2 dirt which is a huge deal at this point in the game
you don't get iti have to get all 5 chests
Now a 5/5 an invincible 6/1 and a 3/3 with rush and ward?That's what I'm talkin about
>>545915256>skipped turns 2 and 3it's so over
>>545915335Personally I don't have trouble maintaining 5 crests even without him and 4 is usually enough now that benis is shit.
>>545914812I played dirt yesterday and they were never the right play on turn 5. I either didn't have enough dirt for both them and norman or there was a 4+/5+ stats follower on the board I would have to suicide them into.
>>5459153356pp waste of evo eat 7 damage next turn
>>545914812anne and grea are better on curve
>>545915691Ya they're only good for racking up SBA, 4pp twink almost always feels better to use unless it's just an empty board or something
sakakibara won against sword
>>545915497nooo you don't get it this card costs an evo point so it's fair okay?
>>545915335he only gets you killed
>>545915497zwei is mid afshe should also give barrier to everyone after evo
Why the fuck are 90% of my games against abyss when sword is supposed to be undisputed top 1 that nobody can touch?
>>545916395Maybe because you're in shitter rank and shitters tend to play bad decks? Abyss it probably the 2nd best deck thoughbeit
>>545916395Abyss is easier to get consistent results with compared to loot.
>>545916579>Abyss it probably the 2nd best deck thoughbeitTrue and puppet is #1
WHY THE FUCK DOES DIRT COST ZERO TO GENERATE BUT TREAT IT LIKE YOU ARE SPENDING AN EXTRA PP
>>545916910Doesn't puppet lose to sword or somethingConsidering sword is half the ladder this should be a pretty big dealAlthough considering how hard puppets fuck my dirt deck in the ass I would tend to agree
I want to be pegged by orchis and zwei
I capped oguri from my puppet list
I think dragon genuinely needs a nerf
>>545917335>lose to sword or somethingIt's unfavorable to puppets but not by much. Maybe 60/40? Not a big deal.
>60-40 is not much
>5 deck meta>out of those 5 only one of them is a new deckSSBA was a mistake why didn't they make it the entire match instead of when in hand
Should I always mulligan for Cagliostro?
>>545917236Because dirt is the only resource that does nothing on its own so it would be unplayable if it got taxed like loot. Even untaxed it was bad for three sets
>>545917617>>lose to sword or something>It's unfavorable to puppets but not by much. Maybe 60/40? Not a big deal.I don't play either deck so I wouldn't know how accurate this statement is but 60-40 vs the most popular deal is a huge deal thoughCould explain why puppets are somewhat kept in check though, because the deck feels really strong to me
puppets lose to sword 80% of the time
non-bricked puppet can beat bricked loot but non-bricked puppet will never beat non-bricked loot
Probably my most fun match up to date. Survived 2 OTKs and died with 5 cards in pile few turns later. Where is this anon who said Temple is a bad idea?
>sinciro octrice for 12>puppet biggest heal is 5 from gilne+1 from quickblader and you are still in albert range btw
I'm white
devotee or supplicant
>>545918776Not a bad idea at all with rodeo, only problem that with abyss it rarely ever works anyways.
orchis shouldnt give bane
>>545919320>rodeoIt's ward/hybrid deck.
Now I’m annoyed…
Skybound floppedGranblue floppedThe Flopped dragonsNo one is playing evoslop decks
flopboundslop killed the hype
sloppy floppy wieners
>try to make a fun skybound evolve deck>get raped by oguri cap decksamazing game cycucks
You can judge the games quality based on the current state of forest. The better forest is the better the game is. That's why we have been on a nonstop decline since set one.
>>545920117not really
>>545919683>game ender card shouldn't end the gameHow about you play aggro instead of bitching
>>545917236Am I the only one who can't parse this post?
How do I stop being absolute shit. Dirt does not feel like a top tier deck.
What do you even do against 3 GY after Sham?
>>545917915dirt? evo abyss?
Every top tier sword legendary added since launchAlbertGildariaSinciroOctriceZetaEvery top tier forest legendary added since launch
>>545920464chalice chalice chalice
>>545920605sword and abyss just get good card quality in general every single setevery other craft besides forest will generally get at least a few good cards every set, barring shit like truth rune forest just always gets absolute fucking dogshit every single set
>>545920474abyss niggas already went back to mode, evo is too volatile for ladder
Jasun took belial off his mode deck
and people say havenfags have a victim complex, kek
>>545920117Forest is dangerously approching dragon's level of unplayability and awful designThat being said evo forest is 1-2 good cards away from being a good deck which is very disappointing because it's the deck I was looking forward to the most this set alongside dirt
ngl im kinda bummed that vomiting storm units and slapping face is the only way to play the gameany interesting synergistic deck is gatekeeped by that shitshartstone devs were right when they removed almost all storm sources from their game
>>545920462I feel like I always win playing dirt, but the games take too long so I stick to mostly losing on dragon or aggro sword...
>>545920765forest is way worse off than dragon what are you talking about, at least dragon has gotten good bombs over the last few sets
>Sword has 5 diferent decks with diferent flavors of storm slop>All of them are tier 1 decks
>>545920930nerfhaven
all this general is do is complain about sword when puppets is the most op deck. why are you idiots like this ? sword is tier 2 and honest,
sakakibara won against puppet
>ãƒãƒ“ー大会
>>545920765Forest is still carried entirely by roach that's how fucked the class is. They aren't slowly building towards a good deck because almost every card they get is worthless in every scenario. A good forest card is looking for scraps to make roach 1% better because nothing actually increases the power of roach it just fixes shit like hand size.
Every day haventrannies cry that 2pp heal 10 is now 4pp heal 10.Norman costs 6pp, 2 dirt, and evo points to heal 8 but 4pp heal 10 is a "nerf"
>>545921279Someone gets it The most broken deck this format is puppet by farDirt Rune next, then Loot
>>545921279why not post the real graph subhuman swordnigger
Can someone recommend me good dirt ytuber to watch? I feel retarded when I lose to dragon of all things, not to mention niggersword. It's infuriating that I have better success on aggro abyss list from 2 sets ago .
>>545920919I mean this set forest is worse than dragon but roach as an archetype is more cohesive and better designed than the entirety of dragon which is forest's one saving graceIf dragon gets decent support next set and forest gets another failed archetype then I will admit that forest has it worse than dragon overall, but until then I'm still convinced that dragon is the worst craft in the game when you consider all 4 sets because it was unplayable garbage in 3 of the 4>>545921413>Forest is still carried entirely by roach that's how fucked the class is.Yeah exactly this, everything other than roach ranges from as shit as disdain to even worse but forest is carried by roach because it's one of the best designed decks in the game
>>545921279>all the sword players are sitting at the top 100 with 2.1k elo not queueing up to not lose rankjeez i wonder why are sword players not queueing up
>>545921279all this means is portal is a combination of popular and good, which everyone already knew. it doesn't mean it's the strongest.
>>545920790i mean, you could play dirt, a deck that often runs literally zero storm
The lobby is lively today
>>545921447That goes against my crying bro i can endure every class being op except portal, portal should never be able to end any games ever! i HATE portal so much
>>545921447tournaments is what real matter you portal pedo . why act dumb ? your deck will be nerfed soon
>>545921708>>545921765imbrown.jpg
nerf so hard card becomes literally unplayable, where every other healing card is still being playedbut um yeah it's still the best healing card in the game actually
>>545920790this >>545921673 try playing dirtIt's my favorite deck this set and the main reason is it actually has a fighting chance against stormslop and it has a clear and synergistic game planGet ready to get your ass beat by portal though (especially puppets) this matchup is ass
>>545921447forestsisters, we're on the chart...!
>>545921447>1.9%we are SO back havenbros
>>545922078Dragon wasn't on any chart in the entirety of set 3 and portal completely disappeared after week 1...
sakakibara won against evo sword
>>545922482>evo swordA what now
>they nerfed my 2pp heal 10 to 4pp heal 10? You mean now i can't play wilbert super evolve heal back to full and banish something for free wipe the entire enemy board and hit face all at the same time? Now i only get to do all of that except the banish? UNPLAYABLECUT ALL BENISON FROM ALL DECKS! THE NERF WAS TOO MUCH!
it is indeed cut from all deck
benison should have been nerfed to heal for 5 if you had all crests full instead
>>545921708very cute erika
>>545922586What's the point of benis if it doesn't help to win against sword? You don't need that much healing against other crafts.
lil bro has never touched haven in his whole life and probably isn't GM (let alone has good CR) and he thinks benis is OPthat one meme about haven haters all being shitters is very true
one thing i've been noticing is how early game simply does not matter at alli'll skip multiple early turns because my hand is full of 7+ cards and then win because i have all my 7+ cards and don't need to worry about not drawing themseems kinda gross honestly
so whats the downside of playing valse again
this general is in a bad state
>>545922926You're playing a 2/1 instead of a 5/4
>>545922926why would put a card that has downsides in my deck?
the real petcrafts were actually sword and abyss
>swordtards call nroman a heal 8 because they do not even count the norman body because it is a free oguri cap targetim so tired of this oguri cap tranny card
feelin pretty lonely tonight
>>545922897let me guess, puppet?
>>5459225864pp conditional heal is so bad that crest is using 3 pp heal 4
>>545922897bro u literally die turn 5 if you dont answer sword follower vomit every turn
>>545923154what's stopping them from playing the same exact crest slop deck and healing for free?
>>545923075what's wrong anon?
>>545921459A-anyone?
>>545923207i die against sword no matter what i do because i play >>545923105 so it doesn't matter there either.
>>545923075come to the lobby
>>545922586It's actually a 23pp heal 10 if you count all the combo pieces needed for it to actually heal.
>encounter first spellboost in days>T10 Satan Dclimb Astaroth roll classicJust because everyone plays dirt let's not pretend this shit doesn't exist.
>>545923251Sword
Nerf sword a tiny bitGive evo forest a few significant buffsAnd the meta is good no?
>>545923302I need to breed sekka
>healing for free
>>545923075wanna hang out and play some games against each other
>>545923394we still need artifact and egg buffs puppet is only popular because egg and artifact are unplayable
nobody offers games when I say I'm lonely wtf
>>545910692I saw that, danchou~
Good job the schizo now has a kill list.
>>545923560wanna hang out and play some games against each other
Forest has the most deck types in the entire game because they force you to build decks around specific legendaries. It also has the least amount of viable decks because they have nothing that is universally good and every deck is pieced together with shit cards trying to make a shit legendary less shit.Instead of fixing the class they will just throw in Sekka or Ladica to powercreep roach and call it fine while pumping out more garbage.
>>545923801>Forest has the most deck types-no
Roach is the reason forest is forever shit.
>>545923774but I'm a swordjeet...
>>545923931thats ok
>do everything AND ungawho thought this was a good (((trait))) for a craft
>>545910692SOMEONE PLEASE REPOST THE ORIGINAL IMAGE AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>545923682what if we kill the schizo
>>545923394naively yes but you have to look at which classes benefit matchupwisepuppet is already doing well and loot is its biggest weakness. what's going to stop it if loot gets shot? maybe post-buff roach but nobody plays roach and it still autoloses to haven
give it to me straightcan I at least make a somewhat decent evo forest deck
>>545924290Maybe in SV1 you can.
>>545922897>>545923320Well it doesn't surprise me that you would say this as a puppet playerYour wincons are orchis and bub, you don't give a shit what happens early game as long as you still have enough HP to not die and drop these broken followersPuppet has kind of been like this since release but used to having to rely on getting an early lead vs slower decks (like rune), but now puppets can get away with pretending to play the game even against slow decks thanks to bub
>>545924359bub isn't in my deck
How much is it on Epic?
>>545923075
https://twitter.com/gorigoriSWB/status/1987197979149860979ding dong cute
Why does the game keep giving me multiples of legos no one uses?
>>545924750if danchou had a soul he would have replaced one of the dingdongs with lyria so he could see how long it took for someone to notice
>>545924864gayme gives me leggos after i craft themwelcome to kikemuraverse
Sword and Portal nerfs tomorrowI can feel it
>>545924979Nerf Cerberus too
sakakibara hit a 5 win streak and went afk
>>545923527>we still need artifact and egg buffsnah, they should focus on buffing the shit crafts right now not the shit archetypes. I'm down for an artifact buff but it shouldn't be their priority>puppet is only popular because egg and artifact are unplayablepuppets were always popular>>545924250They don't have to nerf sword to the point where it doesn't even beat puppets anymore (supposedly puppet's worst matchup) but the deck autowins too many matchups right nowBut you are right, now that the meta has stabilized a bit puppet is looking like one of the better decks so if sword gets pushed out of the meta puppets would be way too strong>>545924512You're building your deck wrong then, bub is an insane card in puppetsnot vs storm aggro obviously but you're losing to storm anyways
Is it worth to craft second Sandalphon for dirt?
every time i don't play the most broken deck ever made (crest ward) the game just makes me play unwinnable matches so why change and lose to shitters?
sword nerfsinciro to 5 5 so that super evolve sinciro dies to super evolve orchis
otaku reached beyond with dragon
today I will try tempo forest with lyria and danchoussurely this will save the deck
the sword nerf should be every sword card has the costs increased by 1 same nerf for haven
haven isn't even doing well this set, why does everyone hate the class so much
>>545925782It dared to be better than sword for a single set.
>>545925782>why does b rank general hates havenhmm great question indeed
elana wouldn't even be broken in removalverse today, what a meta...
sakakibara reached 1000 cr with ward haven
>>545925782if wilbert wasn't broken odin wouldn't need to exist as he does and be 3x in every serious deck, Wilbert is the single card chokeholding the meta.
sakakibara
>>545925782Don't get fooled into thinking "everyone" hates it, it's the same retarded schizo complaining about post-nerf benis because he probably lost to it once
>>545925782Cards on board --> have to figure out how to deal with it ---> filters low skill players
If I want to play burn deck which one is better - crest (hybrid or pure?) or eggs? Eggs have cuter girls, but I have most legos for crest.
>545926070this post is a falseflag, not even sw*rdniggers are this dumb
>>545926070wowI sure hope you aren't being serious
>Play Amelia + Luminous Mage barrier sevo on turn 8>Opponent effortlessly clears it and hits face for 11 to winthe game just ain't what it used to be....
aww yeahanother night of shadoba gamin and fapping to medusa and filenethis gon be a wild crazy night dudes
This is genuinely the best meta we've ever had. There are so many various kinds of decks being played right now, it's great. I've seen every single craft (ignore forest) and it's been absolutely wonderful.All the top crafts are competitive against each other, and a bunch of them have different archetypes. I've seen loot, aggro, midswordI've seen evo abyss, mode abyssI've seen puppet portal, egg portalI've seen dragons, dirt runes, ward havens (Ignore forest)If one craft has to be the sacrificial abysmal dogshit class for an entire set for metas like this, they should always do it
>>545926505can I fap to them with you
>>545926530fuck you
who is >we subhuman frognigger
sakakibara lost his 5 win streak to egg portal
>>545926530>frogposter
>>545926701yeah i just tuned ithe just keeps on starting at his deck
>>545925428Isn't he the only wincon?
>>545925428I only run one
>>545926530Meta is not bad but it's too rock-paper-scissor for my tasteI wish all decks were dirt, mode abyss or midsword but that's too much to ask
>>545926530What is the diference between this meta and last meta except everyone is just going face with storm cards
>>545926530KMR does it again
....I see there are a lot of angry forest players in the thread today
>>545926904well spellboost and crest are gone
>>545926530if loot didnt exist it would unironically be top 3 meta of all time
So, why albert can deal 12 damage to the face with no setup on top of all the storm face damage sword you have to endure??
>>545927146if sword didnt exist*
>>545927202why not
Why doesn't everyone just hit legend or beyond with sword here?
>>545927202because it costs 9pp and a super evo!
>>545926904Dragon and portal were both unplayableNo benisNo satan dclimb>>545927146I fucking hate loot but if you took current meta and removed sword puppets would be tier 0
>>545927332no other class forces you to play at 8 hp just from a single (ONE) card
>>545927202Because Cygames has 5 sword leaders they need to sell.
>why isnt everyone brown like me? i dont get it
>>545924621Can someone check the price? Onegai
>>545927202Sword is the most played class
sakakibara lost to puppet portal and oguri cap
>>545927479I still see a satan dclimb every once in a while and they always close the game at turn 10.
>>545927202sword is the designated monkey class so even sub iq retards can pilot it and do well
>>545925616I am currently 0-5 with this deck
>>545927404Because Sword isn't the strongest deck at the moment. The strongest deck at the moment is Puppet, then there's a gulf, then there's Dirt Rune/Loot SwordThen Evo abyss is SLIGHTLY beneath that, then Eggs, then Mode AbyssThen there's Storm/Ramp Drag, then Ward HavenHaven, however, is still playable - because Wilbert and Aether are polarizing as fuck cards that auto-win a game if you don't draw the out
another one to the vault>sword is honest because it keeps portal on check
>>545927645I've seen satan dclimb a single time since the beginning of the set and I have played more games than you
>>545927710Loot beats everythingPuppet loses to lootTherefore puppet is the strongest
>>545927202>>545927202>no set up>need turn 9 and sevo saved>just heal or put up wards with 3 hp+
Remember that if you could pull the megazord robot off ralmia>the one you need to put ELEVEN tokens in your hand to createis would still be worse than just playing naked albert with no setuplet that sink in
it's time to nerf sylvia alouette and orchis
>>545927918Loot only beats everything if it godrollsIn reality, what actually consistently happens is puppet outtempos the fuck out of you early into Zwei and you pray to God for Sinciro or you lose Zwei is an absurd card right now
Bros, is there some basic guidelines on how to pilot dirt? From what I understand dirt winconditions are either slowly burn opponent with Cagliostro's crest or to nuke them with Sandal. But it feels so slow, when sword just hits me in the face with their retarded storm cards.
>>545927742It's not honest but it's a necessary evil in current environmentI'm down to delete sword from the game but then we'd have to do something about puppets because they'd become unstopableIf you don't see it you're either sub80 iq or a biased portalfag
>>545927985Can you explain what you mean by this because this is wrong
>droping cards on curve is godrolling
>>545928092depends on the matchupyou usually want 2 drops in general and annegrea-edelweissyou can keep one norman if you have 2 dropsagainst abyss you want to superevo priscilla into lilan because it is a instant win
>>545927479>No benis>No satan dclimbThese two are optional both are still strong people are not using them because streamers are not using them.
>>545928092Dirt is non-linear. You don't have a true wincon the way most decks in the meta do, your win route changes by game according to match up and hand.
>>545927202orchis is the same damage (or more) except 1pp cheaper and with a stupid ward body
Puppet has the strongest early game out of any craft in the game The strongest mid gameand arguably the strongest late game follower in a vacuum (Orchis) >Puppet's primary problem before this set was that it was "Draw 2 Orchis or lose"Now puppet damn well TUTORS Orchis while Beelzebub means you only really need 1 Orchis to win a game Puppet is fucking bonkers rn and everyone here should be abusing it
>>545928171Ralmia only lets you pull 5 cost artifactsNow lets assume that ralmia lets you pull the 10 cost boss robot which would be unholy and brokenIt would still be worse than just playing albert and swinging for 12I hope you got to understand!!
>>545928092put in 3 odins
>>545928587>1pp cheaperturn 8 orchis is 7 damage, 8 damage if there's something for her to hit. I get people are crying about portal again but at least don't make up shit as if we don't play the game.
ah yes more ai shit and baniggers
>made fediel because muh dick>evo abyss sucks and end up just playing mid with her shoehorned in
Can she save forest?
>>545928601i love slop
>>545928601Playing brain dead Eachtar style decks is boring tho
>orchis is just 1pp more expensive to deal the exact same damage as odin and she doesn't banish anythingWhy are we saying portal is tier 1 again?
Feels like if you're playing evo mode the only way to get a winstreak is if you don't face any pure evos.They just have belial crest at turn 8 or something and it feels like you already lost. Been watching jasun and he often folds to them too.
>>545929172They don't play portal. That's why
>>545929172because>neutral albert good>albert that cant be used on sword= bad
>>545929230>f*rest opp
>>545928747I can't remember the last time turn 8 orchis did less than 12 damage to my board full of barrier wards
i need a pure ward haven dick, surely it exists right?
>every single top deck is running 12 storm cards>sword is running the literal 20 storm card deck>this is considered healthy
yup, that's another win for the good guys
>>545929454Damn i wish my orchis was this strong because mine sure as hell can't clear a board full of wards and hit face for 12 turn 8.
>>545929547well thats because people keep clearing our non storm boards!
>>545928083browntard you can just check the highest CR ratings in the game itself, there is no excuse to downplay
>>545929547It's considered fun.
>>545929454you can't remember it because what you are describing is impossible so you cannot remember something that never happened
>>545929547if they could they would be running 40 alberts and call the game fun again
>>545921279pretty much everyone agrees but this topaz general agrees that puppet is the strongest deck currentlythey keep waving around the high CR of sword when it's literally just because their games end on turn 9 at latest. faster games faster CR
>>545923394make quickblader have rush instead and gain storm with rally
>>545928092It's not an easy deck to pilot properlyvs sword you HAVE to get a strong early curve with 2pps, alchemic flares and edeilweiss so they don't get a lead. Always try to match odin or sinciro with norman heal 8. Lila is almost always dead in the matchup, return her to deck with astrologer. Make sure you don't norman + double golem right before a sinciro turn because you almost always lose off of thatThe gameplan is always different depending on the matchup, for example against abyss your goal is getting a decent curve and dropping lila backed by like 8+ dirt stacks ASAP because abyss can't deal with her at all. Against crest haven you want to play for cog's crest and strong sandal burst turns (and getting enough healing in to reach that point). Against dragon you NEED removal for the intimidate cards (velharia or flare) and prepare for garyu turn(s) and obviously playing around storm burts.
why are sword players called brown
>>545929537It exist but it's bad>Loses to loot, aggro sword, all portal decks, all abyss decks except aggro, spellboost, and OTK dragon
>>545929872every single deck wins by turn 9 retard kuneven crest which is considered a boring deck wins in turn 10 with gilnelise burst
and another win for the good guys!
can you guys at least argue over something new please
>>545929881They would never ever make a sword card as shitty as just putting a fairy in your deck. If quickblader didn't have storm it would summon two 1/1s with rush.
>>545930061Some shitposter spammed the fuck out of it and other people started bandwagoning.
>>545930083but what does it look like?i missed my time when ward was playable, but i want to play it now
>>545930083>>545929537Literally only wins against dirt lmaoAs a dirt player i hate that these retards are just playing the game to piss me off because they lose to everyone else
>>545929872why do you still not know how CR works
>>545929537Sure, but what are you going to do with it? It loses to everything but forest.
>>545930083It loses to aggro abyss too sometimes. You have to kill them by turn 6 with either oguri cap or them not even playing wilbert. Once they drop Aether it's over though, but I've won against them. It can happen!
What deck should I be climbing with
>>545930220>go first vs sword>turn 1>pass>sword's turn 1>coin quickblader + quickblader 4 1/1s on the field at the beginning of your own turn 2I can see this being a thing by set 6 or 7
>>545928634Okay but there's still one part I don't quite get. The part where 3 AoE and 12 damage with a 6/8 body is better than 5 AoE 13 damage 5 heal with a 13/13 Aura Ward body. Please clarify.
>actually albert is balanced because if ralmia could summon the big gundam it would outdamage albert by 1
sakakibara took a sip from his cup while waiting for his opponent to make a play
>>545930482>Fanfare
>>545930482why do you still not know how Fanfare works
>>545912301Cute and Funny
>>545929604>>545929827turn6 noah turn 7 noah sevo puppet cat turn 8 im sure you can figure out the rest :)
Since we are moving characters around in Shadowverse Worlds Beyond we decided that this time Sword will be the one getting Ladica so she can be used with Mistolina.Prepare to be roached but by sword.
>>545930825And the enemy is just skipping turns 6 and 7 instead of dropping what usually is the strongest cards in the deck and letting me build the perfect scenario for orchis turn 8?
>>545930657>>545930727Then what's the point of the comparison when the cards aren't anything like each other
>have to play 3 cards that buff your puppets beforehand>a 6 cost card 3 times>and you also have to not clog your hand with all the token cargae>and that is still worse than just playing albert swing 12 to face
Queued up for the lobby taikai as midrange swordFeels good to return to kino, bros. golden knight also kinda fucks
i don't think i ever had to wait more than 10 seconds for the tournament during omenslopgranblue killed the game
>>545931063>>545930825If turn 6&7 comes around you drop a board so fucking weak that portal feels comfortable dropping Noah (does nothing) maybe you deserve to eat a milion damage from orchis to the face
gee I sure wonder if having to wait more in tournament queue has anything to do with the fact that it stays open for 3 times as long as before
Its been 2 weeks is Satan dclimb that bad that its not even being played anymore
>>545931252>im having so much fun playing stormver....ACK
>>545920474Dirt is the new deckEvo Abyss is dead
God these tournaments seriously need a time limit when two assholes are making everyone wait.
uooohhhh I'm tempoiiing
>>545917915We warned you that SSBAs weren't real man. Just be thankful that there're a few cards that aren't taxed to hell for the effects like Cagliostro or the mechanic would totally be dead.
>>545931715what does the tempo dick look like now? i want an excuse to eat elf butt again
>portalnigger coining turn 7 Orchis sevo and ready to play another balanced bitch the next turn>cucked by filene spellbetter luck next time nigger
How im supposed to use my "skybound mechanic" when my oponent is playin oguri cap + their designated class storm garbage totally ignoring my boards
>>545915147Abyss was the real JO class this entire time?!
>>545931846I've been fucking around with this list >>545925616 but I realized midway through game 4 I forgot to put roach in so I've just been waiting for my streak to end to mess with the deck and put it back indisclaimer I have no idea how I have a 5 win streakthis game was quite funny though, I did lyria autoevo oguri cap on the eggbro's eggs twice in a row
>>545917915because it would be too OP and they dont want that kind of OP in this early into the game
>>545931416Well dirtboost finally hit the powercreep wall, it's simply not strong enough to compete with the meta decksI think dirtboost is dead forever, pure spellboost will return soon but who knows if they'll still play satan
>>545931992Unless you are playing dirt or abyss you aren't.
>>545932024Is roach really that important when you got a 5 win streak
>>545932024>1569get out of shitter elo, retard
>>545931992how about you make better boards
>>545932267bro he's playing forest
>>545932236I dunno, maybe not, I feel like it gives a lot of reach when your hand is a bunch of fairies from titania, especially if you don't have aria crest active>>5459322671570 forest is unironically the equivalent to ultimate on forest rune sword abyss thoughbiet
>>545931252dumbass
>>545932267Go ahead, try to reach epic with forest right now
>>545932376>forest rune sword abyssI meant portal rune sword abyss
>>545932024arisa!!
how am I supposed to climb with dirt when everyone is on puppets..................
>>545932376good point this is storm verse after all and you need all the reach you can get for tempo
>>545932717I'll try 2x roach and shave down -1 titania -1 lyria
>>545931416dclimb was already weak last season but stuck around because the meta was a bunch of jerkoff decks and loot which ran out of damage until people started running tabletsurvive until turn 10 and pray isn't actually a reliable wincon despite what people would have you believe
>>545931416I was here telling people it was shit at end of last season and you all laughed at me, well whose laughing now I was right you fucking retards they wanted rune nerfed
>>545932024holy moly she looks so badhow the fuck is she even holding that bow lmao
>set 4>Still losing to Lapis because it's the best card in the entire game and any Haven complaints are because they aren't running her in their own deck
bro went from saying benis was the most broken card in the game yesterday to lapis todayI think he's lost it
>>545933258https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zCgbA1jdIo
what deck beats puppet loot sword cancer?
>>545933471currently I'm losing to Alouette.
ive been rolling on the old set forever and i sitll dont have milktaniawhos gonna pay for this crime
>>545933571egg
>>545933727your 350 packs?
>>545933810i closed the >game im gonna check later, i think im close to 300, 290 something
>>545930360Please respond
>>545933768that deck only has 6/40 cards that actually give you eggsit's shit
>>545932686Dirt is perfectly fine into puppets. It might be slightly unfavoured but you're not really countered, it's like 4-6 at worst. Personally I win most of mine against puppets. The annoying thing is just that dirt has to work harder than puppets in the match up who just gets to play their usual game.You have to count their puppets and play towards resolving Lilanthem with enough dirt stacks that they can't kill her with Orchis on 8. This forces them to play towards OTK but Beelzebub is dead into Lilan so you get a ton of free damage off. Their high roll is better than yours but I think dirt is way more consistent.
>>545930360>>545933987Dragon
>>545930360>>545933987Follow your heart. I was climbing with Aggro Abyss because it's fun, now I'm only going to play Forest. What do you have fun with? What's YOUR deck bro? You posted a picture of Galleon so play Haven.
peak shadowverse gaming
My experience after doing chests with every craft.>Best decks:LootslopPuppets>Very good decks:ModeDirt>Decent decks:Evo forestESPADA GALAXIAMid abyss>Shit tier:EggsStorm dragonWard havenI haven't played Loot, but it's all over the ladder and is the hardest matchup for most decks I've played.>Haven't played: Tempo/Roach forest Wamdussy/Followerboost Evo abyss Crest haven ^I don't know how good are these, but I had very high winrate against them with decks I've played.
mode seems boring af
rank 1 portal
>>545932717yea definitely keep roach in
>>545934732I have given some thought towards trying a hybrid deck but I dunno
>>545934732so THATS why I fought against an egg fucker who had an orchis in his deck
>>545934896
>fighting a dragonfag>he's 1 hp>no more evos in the match>he's debuffed by satan2>i have oguri cap for lethal in hand>drop eudie first anyway just to give him hope>wait for a little bit to make him think i'm mad that i lost the match >make him think there's a chance he wins the match with 1 hp>drop OGURI CAP as if she was a eudie top deck>he instantly surrenders
Orchis game. Orchis general. Orchis galaxy.
This is swords actual best card. Especially when Abyss is spamming bats
>>545934732interesting to run actual respectful removal over greeding for zwei hand checks
>>545934034>You have to count their puppets and play towards resolving Lilanthem with enough dirt stacks that they can't kill her with Orchis on 8.Orchis alone kills lila 4 times, you need 8 dirt stacks at the very least to resist a orchis turn which is not that easy to achieve by turn 8 especially when puppets have stronger early followers than you (you generate dirt, they generate puppets)My main issue dealing with puppets as dirt is bub, I usually manage to stabilize the game in the later turns but bub is a huge blowout if lila isn't already on field. Maybe I should play/build slightly differently but I do think the matchup is very rough
>>545935405and it was stolen from bloodoh how the turntables
>Earth Rite Rune is actually BAD badDamn I thought there was some hope at the start of this set but I guess when the dust clears this is inevitable
What restored the hype?
>>545935484If you're struggling to have 8 dirt stacks online by turn 8 there's a serious piloting issue there. It's normal to go to 14 by turn 8 against puppets without even trying very hard for them.
>pngs suddenly turn into jpgs
>>545925616after putting 2 roach in I went 8-5 today doing chests with this, not bad. definitely keeping danchous and lyria in the future. excited to see how this deck will be post buff.
>>545935405shouldn't this be an abyss card
>>545935829Crest nerf
>>545936001Yurius should've been in Abyss, but Albert's bussy is too tempting
>>545935996They have to buff forest... If they don't I have no faith in cygames
another win for the lobby tournament virtuoso :^)crest is the dark horse, beat 2 sword, a dragon and a spellboost rune in the finalsthey were all making crazy misplays so i guess tanaka-san is currently on his way to work
How many chest days left not counting this one? 2 more?
>>545936282Non-combat life steal effects moving to Sword, more accurately "Royal" is probably fine. Blood splitting down its portfolio is probably more ideal than moving them all in with Shadow for Abyss.I think handless should go to forest personally. Hand manipulation is already more on theme for forest than it was for blood originally and god knows forest needs more strategies than doing nothing for 8 turns then OTKing.
you.....DID get all 5 chests already, right anon?
>>545935886I only play 1 perfurmer maybe I should bump him to 3
>>545936416I think the only thing tempo really needs to be at least decent is an aria buff. they should just give her the zwei treatment and turn her into another annegrea, 5pp with her fairies on evo effect. what I would WANT for tempo in the future is some more efficient bounce cards like that one from sv1 that draws a card, and then a wincon similar to sekka or castelle. issue is that those cards would just get parasited by roach most likely
Yep, another win for the good guys!
>>545936680I did. My last chest was purple and I've lost 7 games before getting these amazing rewards from it
>>545936810I assume you have yuel and aria crest active
>>545936994Oh, yeah. Sorry, I take lazy screenshots so they can make it past the file size limit
>>545936810you should probably include the yuel and aria crest in the screenshot
>>545936965NICEthat's like 23.33 of a legendary craft
>>545936712I find usually when people struggle to build dirt it's because they're not engaging enough. Like they're playing brew when clicking the amulet is actually better 4/5 times and not abusing the click+brew+click trick.Also don't be afraid to sevo Penelope then plopping down a Melvie that's 6 dirt straight up before amulet. Don't overcommit on holding Cagliostros either. You don't need the crest to win the match up.
>>545937121Next time for sure! I need to get in the habit of taking full screenshots and reducing their size
>>545936514two more days>>545936680no i just did one match to hit gm and logged off
bro is a fucking 2/2 why the fuck do you surrenderare sword players this mentally weak?
https://x.com/yokoshima_ja/status/1987491828229460039?s=20meg made it into a beyond list
>>545938596This list deeply confuses me
If you dont want me playing sword maybe you shouldn't be playing decks that hard counter forest. You are the one that made me do this.
>>545938994but i play puppet which is a 0-100 matchup against roach just like it is against loot
>>545938994im at best t3 anonplease play foresti want to win.....
every deck I like instantly folds to haven so when I see haven in the pre battle screen I just close my eyes and accept my fate before trying my best (I play forest and dirt)
>>545937378>not engaging enoughI don't think that's an issue as far as I'm concerned>Also don't be afraid to sevo PenelopeI almost always sevo her when possibleIf the matchup really isn't that bad then I genuinely think I don't play it properly, I admit I never ever try to play for Lila because I just assume she'll be cleared by orchis. Instead I try to play aggressively with t4 edelweiss and t6 norman and such but then I obviously get a dirt deficit so no LilaMaybe I should play more passively early on, contesting board and prioritizing stacking dirt instead. This is exactly what I do vs abyss and it's working very well.
>>545939236I never draw my banish any time I play haven against dirt it's one of the most annoying things
>>545939236dirt is playable into pure crestbut when I see an aether hit the field I mental boom
>>545920790bro your evo abyss, mode abyss, spellboost, dirt, crest haven, ward haven, eggs?
How future-proof are eggs? I mean can we expect more support for them? I like the concept and the girls are cute, but I'm feeling stingy crafting only an "okay" deck right now.
>>545939117May you be blessed with plentiful forest kills haven sis
>>545938336Swordplayer live and die by quickblader going unpunished
>>5459397183 of these decks hard lose to loot bro
>>545923527Artifact is unsalvageable. It needs an entire set of support to be good again.
>>545939806do you like your new af support anon?
>>545927202Albert is unironically honest by today's sword standards
>>545938336wow I should enter weekly tourney during commuting hour next week. thanks for the tips anon.
why does everyone complain about sword but not abyss and the fact that they do everything with every card?
>>545939806If you want cards that will always be good play sword or rune, portal was unplayable for two sets.
>>545940323both abyss and sword are petcrafts that get great quality cards in every set
>>545940323Me play aggro, me go face, me no care
>>545939806they got (good) support this set which is more than can be said of artifact
the most future proof craft is sword
Reminder that portalbabs were dooming and saying portal was going to be shit for another set after seeing bubz
>Crafts that have been Tier 1 before:ForestSwordRuneHavenPortal>Crafts that have never been Tier 1:Dragon Abyss
>>545940323most of anon here are abyssdownplayer since set 1. imagine saying eachtar is weak
The Strongest
>>545940687this isn't true
>>545939806If you like them go for it but the deck is expensive if you start from scratch and it's not future proof. Well nothing is really, but when you play eggs at least half your deck is egg cards so if eggs ever fall out of flavor that's at the very least 6 leggos and 6 golds you're never playing againIf you really like the deck then sure go for it it's perfectly playable right now, apparently the top beyond portal deck is egg with orchis which proves the archetype is strong enough to be in top ladder
>>545940323Because value is mode's wincon which is a lot easier to manage than 5 back to back turns of storm and removal
>>545940875Good job bro, I proud of you
>>545940875congrats eggGOD
>>545940794bro... mode abyss was top tier in set 3.....dragon was always shit thoughbeit
>>545940928>>545940998
>>545941042Mode Abyss was Top Tier in set 3?Thought that was just Crest/Spellboost/Loot spam
>Me and my favorite Shadowbanons
>>545941197anon... >>545940980
Not sure if this girl is a Forest main, but she's been playing Foresthttps://www.twitch.tv/ponpon_kotsukotsu
https://poal.me/ki57hfhttps://poal.me/ki57hfhttps://poal.me/ki57hfhttps://poal.me/ki57hf
>>545941091Belno Light is a WHORE
>>545936680yeah only took 3 hours 53 minutes of pure grind
>>545941324Im a whore
Bros.... is midrange sword.... back?I keep winning...
>>545941250Don't laugh, I forgot the s cause am sleepy
>>545941354just win a tournament for better rewards anon
>>545940687>>545940881It's very fucking trueCog and zeta went completely unnoticed on /svg/ and anons were actively shitting on bub calling him 9pp do nothing die to satan dclimb>>545941138Yes it was. Crest, loot and mode were the 3 clear best decks with dirtboost slightly behind, forest considerably behind and dragon/portal being utter garbage.
>>545940881nuh uh you dont get to revise history with me portalbab>>544028135 >>543848973 >>543849910 >>543873814 >>543834583 >>543835575
>>545941570bro play 3 more sword games ur staircase is broken
>>545940881here's some more>>543731574 >>543752149>>543628532 >>543535752 >>543500814>>543491070>>543493932need I go on?
>>545941776already did yesterday
>>545941782I was (correctly) calling zeta a 6pp odin and swordbabs kept telling me they were shitI didn't think dirt would be as good as it is though, that's the one thing I got wrong this set
>>545941786>>545941938Make a collage at this point bro
Another win for the good guys!
>>545942158not a single sword player would have called zeta beato shit
>>545941786>>545941938Uhhhh, Portalsisters? Our response?
Artifact is still shit so they're right
>>545942252I don't feel like doing it as much as I did for the portalbab but sword players constantly said this shit>>543492264 >>543492421
>>545942238so true... Losing Hand
It really is shameful how Runecraft's design these days is just>Play a card that heals you for a fuckton of hp every single turn after 5 Like, seriously, Rune doesn't actually build towards a strategy - they just play a fat body that heals them and clears the board >Norman>Norman>Sagelight>Gilenise >Penelope>Ars Magna >Sandalphon invokehalf the deck healslike literally every single turn after 5 they play a card that heals themnot joking one bitthe design is so bad it's laughable
>>545942238>17 faithhe bricked hard lmao
>>545942661>both mentions of odinlike I said not actual sword players
>>545942698that is the only way forest wins against tier 1 yes
CYGENEROUS! I GOT 1 PACK TICKET FROM MY LAST CHEST!!!!
>healing is... LE BAD!>unavoidable storm damage on every turn is... LE GOOD DESIGN!Sword is the only matchup where rune has to spend most of its time healing btwSurely you aren't a swordbab?
yes i am a swordbab fuck u
>>545941282Hmm, she's winning consistently with her forest deck.
swordbab gf...?
>>545943036It's unironically good because the sooner I can finish a match the sooner I can move on to the next. Deal with it controlsissy.
>>545941282forest stream was all you had to sayI'm in
Remove healing from the game but also remove the storm keyword and loot cards from the gameDeal?
>>545943735thanks for the buff egg bro
>>545943225she's winning? I'll watch regardless since it's forest but maybe I can learn something about evo forest here, I was bouncing all over the place with it last night
That was close but she still won despite the misplay
>>545943225she's still in the negative CR
>>5459439651500 forest is epic on the top 4 crafts
>>545941282Here's the deck she's using forest bros
[Good News] Forest 100 is almost Ultimate
as a roacher, my favorable matches are against portal, abyss, rune and haven now (looks like they dropped wilbert), dragon is unwinnable and sword depends but it is more favorable to sword
>>545943514So true sis, the gameplay should exclusively be whoever can hit the opponent in the face the fastest winsIn fact also remove ward, destruction and the ability to attack your opponent's followers while we're at it
Why does this general simp for woman so hard
>>545944225holy shit that's fucking sadnot even the top 100 asian autists can push that shit past epic
>>545944257anon no version of haven is dropping wilbert, stop lying to yourself
>she swapped to dragondisgusting. stream closed.
>>545944330I'm sorry you get checked whenever you decide to play ridiculously greedy decks, retard.
>>545944178Thanks!
>>545944428same
>>545944420Sakakibara, the god of haven, is not running wilbert in any of his decksi trust his opinion more than radom svgtards
>>545944571wasnt that guy below epic playing crest for the entirety of last month, a time when crest had to be emergency nerfed?
>>545944571Himeka Good Marwin bad righ saka?
>>545944646Yeah that's him, the crybaby of Haven
>>545944646>a time when crest had to be emergency nerfedto plase b ranks yes
https://www.twitch.tv/chappy916forestsisters, we are here
>>545944646Crest started to shit the bed after the portal buffs retard-kunHistory revisionism is totally dishonest
If you're looking to play a meme ass sword list, use this. It can at least get you to EPIC. You completely shit on slow decks Scoop the moment you see Norman Deck is funny as fuck though, matches end in 5 min
>>545944868How is a cat playing Shadowverse?
>>545944868thanks sis
>>545944448True and real sis, aggro decks should always be allowed to end the game by turn 5 without counterplay when """greedy""" midrange decks with a turn 8/9 wincon or god forbid le satanic grindy control decks sit in a corner and watchBecause after all playing 40 storm followers and hitting face every turn with no alternative gameplan is totally not a greedy strategy and as such deserves to be rewarded right?
>>545944892nuh uh you dont get to revise history with me buddy
>and this is my meme sword deck>betazeta>quickbalder>centaur>albert>oguri cap>tentacles>i made it myself, it is such a meme!!
>>545945013that cat is real. I know the guy that trained him. here's a video I have of him
>>545945273I was hoping someone would post something like thisfucking lol'd
>>545945275omg wtf
>>545945275No way that cat is real
>>545945053uhhhh don't post this or else people can't downplay abyss either! it wasn't ever tier 1 it wasn't it wasn't!!!!!
whats the cheapest non-meme deck at the momentis aggro abyss ded?
>>545945490abyss was solidly tier 2 in set 2, both aggro and midrange (I played aggro abyss) and has been tier 1 since it got the mode stuff
>>545945052Correct, I'm glad you understand.
>>545945749I have never seen nonja evolved before
>>545945052fair and balanced
is egg puppet portal a meme or the future?
>>545945503Evo Abyss is the cheapest meta deck at the moment It only needs 8 legendaries Aggro Abyss is completely fucking dead, yesthere is WAY too much healing in the meta and puppet fucks your early game over too hard
>>545944868
>>545946159Egg portal is not a meme, but it is worse than puppet Egg is alright not top of meta tho
>>545946225Impressive, very nice. Now let's see his list.
>>545945503Aggro Abyss is dead but don't let that stop you if you think it's fun. I almost reached 1500 cr with it!
>>545946306>Egg portalNot egg portal. Egg PUPPET portal.
>>545946385oh shit lmao i mean, "egg puppet portal" is just eggs with 3x orchis in it, no?
So now that the dust has settled has she been Meduseful or Meduseless?
>>545944868>>545946353here's the list forestsis
>>545945503>>545946164at that point you might aswell just craft aggro sword with its 9 legendaries since odin, bea and alberto are save crafts for future setsaggro abyss doesn't do it anymore
>Play against nothing but heal to full every turn decks>switch to Evo Abyss to take advantage>suddenly it's Loot Sword with perfect curveshadowbaba tanoshii
>>545946164so if im a retard that started on day 1 and didnt reach master yet, what am i supposed to play nowno im not touching sw*rd, no cr*st is no real haven
>>545946539meduseful (for my cock)I always run her
>>545946738This is a pretty cheap deck all things considered It's good too. Because when I think of "good deck" I'm thinking of something that will be competitive with like 90% of the decks you see on the ladderSo you need something that can fight against puppet, loot, and dirt rune primarily The above 3 decks have like 16, 14, 13 legendaries respectively
>>545946539Everytime I'm against Abyss I slap down Garyu and I say, outloud, "your dumbass better have meduseful or you lose the game"they usually lose the game
>>545946738The Haven deck has 24 legendaries and is Tier 3 lmao.
somehow roach returned...
>>545947078i played crafted mode abyss prev expansion, is it worthless now?
>>545947273Mode is good too, you can keep playing that if you have the deck for it Basically I would just spam mode this expansion, save up everything (rupees, keys, vials) and then dump them all on next expansion after a week for the meta to settle so you know what to craft
>>545947521Mode is very unfavored against evo though.
mode and evo are so annoying
why is cat winning so much with forest? I thought this shit is unplayable???is he a godcat?
>against dragon>wilnas coming next turn>no odin on hand>no removal>desperatly try to set up a board so I can at least take out his health a bit if he wilnas>opp just concedes instead??????????
>>545947794Chappy is the ultimate forest autist. His dick is so deep in Arisa's ass he basically is forestcraft at this point
>>545947521i guess ill play modo and learn the current cards because i keep getting raped by portal as aggro
>>545945749The turn 2 feather drop might as well be gg.
guys why did chappy swap to rune? i'm not watching this anymore
>>545947273>>545947521can confirm that mode is pretty comfy
>mom I won against dragon....
>>545948543forgot pic woops
I fucking hate playing dragon. Every time. I get 1 ramp card at most. If I'm lucky. The rest is always at the bottom of the deck.
>play dragon>permastuck ruby>pick up sword>skyrocket to diamonddidn't think it would be THAT easy...
>>545949178Don't fall for swordbab down players. If you have a brain which is a high bar for them it's the best deck in the game
>>545941650me too... good night!
From no wins since release to two in a two. Feels good because I been having a shit month.
>>545949348G'night! Hope your sleep is deep and good
>>545949564Congrats anon
>>545949876Thanks.
>set up board so that if he coins babu he'll eat shit and lose>he coin babu anyway and then concedesDo these people not know anything else?
>>545949896You're welcome bro I hope you get more wins
>>545950145maybe he had nothing and you made the right play. pat yourself on the back instead of being such a fucking whiny bitch for once
>>545950145>set up board>they coin raio
Nexto.
>>545950390How on earth did that trigger you into a little fit?
4LeafClovers has 2 spots open ; we have more active players than before and will probably reach S+ rank this time.368820995170
>>545950390egg bab seething about being outplayed by honest abyss lmao
>>545941138Mode aside, Midabyss won the RAGE grand finals of the set which was by far the highest level competition to date.
egg mirror is assgoing first is auto loss
>>545949306What's your rating with it?
tfw got all my chests in only 8 games
What even is Abyss' identity?
>>545952156Pet Class
Dead GameDead General
>>545952156Demons. Bats. Necromancy. Dark things.
>>545952156Spooky scary skeletons and chocolate milk
Are the emotes people do when they're fighting in lobby (holding their phones) just random shit that happens or is it actually related to when they win or lose?
>>545952156DRAINING you
>haven't so much as claimed the free pack in daysI'm finally breaking free of this shit game
>>545952156dogs and milk
>>545952606Yet here you are.
>>545952606what guild are you in
DAME DA YO
>>545952606Why is Shadowba not Tanoshii?
>>545952571>>545952571>>545952571>>545952571
