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A man and his dog Edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>545789674

>Latest News/Updates:

Celebrating 10 years of Tide with New Content and a New Class:
https://www.playdarktide.com/news/celebrating-10-years-of-tide-with-new-content-and-a-new-class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeaZmDtfPRs

Darktide:
Hotfix #80 - 1.9.5 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-80-1-9-5-patch-notes/114082

Vermintide 2:
Hotfix 6.7.2
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-7-2/112401

>Acknowledged but not really discussed

Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
and others

>Future games

Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:

Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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it's going to be ganger and you're going to cope hard
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>wanders off to random enemies
>ogryn
>only player to be downed
>multiple times even
>ruined my streak
>it's a console player
Every. Single. Time.
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Übersreik?
More like Übershite!
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>>545893652
Lame. Sad.
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2 sleeps
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2 bedtimes and this thread turns into a shitpost general
>but it already wa....
sybau, atm it's tame compared to other generals
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Uhh, Battlesissies? I'm starting to get nervous there's a chance we won't be getting SoB!
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>>545894012
>sybau
if this site still has filters for desu and senpai then it needs one for this too
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trailer with side shaved haircut female ganger soon
stunning and brave
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>>545894169
sybau
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>>545894270
using ebonics acronyms, even ironically, still makes you a nigger
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Necromunda?
I prefer Negrobunda ajajajaja
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>>545894358
Sybau.
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>>545894607
Negrobunga
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Separate class identities that are currently rolled into one, then add more depth to each since thy are now a whole character. This is an easy way to add new characters without a bunch of overlap.

For example, the current zealot would be a death cult assassin, which receives the stealth and crit focused knife builds and throwing knives of current zealot. You can then add more depth with more death cult themed abilities, such as a leap over enemies, more backstab themed talents, and more bladed weapons.

Then, you're free to make a new "priest" class, who receives the icon aoe stun and word of the emperor abilities, and you are free to theme it deeper by providing a variety of prayers to choose from that all give different buffs. 40k has lots of "zealots", you could separate the death fanatic from the religious fanatic and make it two characters, each one more deep into that theme than one zealot trying to do both in trees.

Same with vet. You can separate that into the "Sharpshooter", who has most of the ranged damage related talents that exist now, and you could add longlas and exitus rifles to the game for them.
Then you can separate the shout and coherency buff themed tree into a separate new Commissar or Lieutenant class, who shouts to improve allies, raises people with shouts, shooting allies gives them buffs, those sorts of things.

And of course the same is true for psyker, more than most. Rather than one "psyker", you could have 3-4 psykers, and each one is a diviner, a biomancer, a pyrokineticist, etc. And they all have deep robust skilltrees that reflect more concisely the different schools of pyskers. Diviniers would have wallhacks, biomancers can cast a spell to give allies melee damage, etc.

I really think rolling so many different themes into the 4 existing characters is limiting their design space. For now it's not a problem since they have more other things to explore, like a tech priest, but some day I could see them splitting some things.
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I'm not reading all that ChatGpt shit
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>>545895623
Bunda means ass
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>>545895915
no, it means "Fur"
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>>545895915
I don't care about your language, Pedro.
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>>545895660
fatshark would never do that but that would be ideal yes. I really like the idea of a comissar shooting allies which does damage but gives buffs to everyone
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>>545893464
>Cope hard
No, I will just continue to not play the game and continue to not give Fatshark money. Things I was already doing. Until they introduce something worth doing, I am not reinstalling.
>inb4 the new map
The new map is an Operations game type, which means it'll last 5-8 minutes at most. And that's if you wander around like a retard.
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>>545895660
>lets return to the dogshit VT trees
No, that's slop was awful.
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>>545896014
Sybau
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>>545896017
>class that can injure allies
You know why that's retarded, right?
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>>545896308
yes I know but it still sounds fun to me
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Retards will look at this and say "SOVL"
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>>545896528
this but unironically
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is there a way to make ranged ogryn viable or the right side of ogryn mastery is a total waste?
nothing really screams "that's cool i'm gonna put points in it.
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>>545896746
Sure, in aurics, forget about it in havocs
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>>545896528
The new talent trees are literally morphing back into this btw. Grenades and abilities now have no pathing that leads to them and instead it's just a free pick.
Game design is literally reverting back to the superior system and it's fucking funny that people still claim the convoluted trees are better
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>>545896528
if every node were a game-changer that fundamentally altered your decisionmaking then this would've been fine
its that this was also a bunch of "15% Dicksucking when dick reaches half-staff" wannabe MMO shit
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>>545896746
BLO with rumbler, that's about it.
PBB with twin stubber works okay in aurics, but it's still harder than it needs to be. Most of this general will tell you it's utter shit because they're too retarded to crouch, brace and burst fire.
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>>545896017
Give a commissar class some bots and execute them for buffs, like necromancer could sacrifice the skeletons.
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>Another weapon with 0 purpose
why make them at this point
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>>545896985
its really funny that this is probably the only game i've ever seen where any given retarded fan idea is more inspired than the shit that actually makes the game

anyway enjoy your ganger with autogun meta talent so they can skimp on new armaments. that'll be $12.99 unless you want the only cosmetics available for an additional fee.
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>>545896528
at least I didnt have to go back the entire tree just to change 1 choice at the start..
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>>545897351
>why make them at this point
Pleasing shareholders by fulfilling corporate roadmap goals.
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>>545896528
reminder: people vocally complaining about this and review-bombing the game is the only reason you didn't spend the last 3 years shelling out $10 for each blitz and keystone combo
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>>545897351
I mean this is what retards asked for
It's good that they didn't listen to retards and not turned powerswords into this, but added them as a separate weapon
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>>545896395
yeah, I like the ganger too it sounds interesting and fun to play as a stimm addict
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>>545894012
This this this
>>545894169
>>545894358
Sybau
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>>545896964
>if every node were a game-changer that fundamentally altered your decisionmaking
There was no decision making to be made in the original trees or let alone in VT1 or VT2.
Every character had only 1 fucking skill set up you'd ever use. Nevermind that in VT1 and VT2 many of the skills are quite literally copypasted and fucking same and took up like 1/3 or even half of the skill"trees"
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>>545896746
It's okay as long as you don't forget your melee weapon to help conserve ammo, but unfortunately a bit too ammo hungry for high havocs.
I like the Mk VI Ripper, it's a strong room clearer and can still put some damage on monsters with the bleed/burn combo. The triple burst on the braced fire has a wider spread, and crit/BLO procs apply to each shot in a burst, allowing for Flechette to max bleed stacks off a single crit and get 3 free bullets instead of 1. The mkII would have to slowly hipfire to get the same. The mkVI also has higher finesse damage for slightly better crits, which helps grind things down faster
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>>545895876
My thoughts exactly!
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>>545897351
yeah, I hope the devs don't add more weapons the ones we have now are capable of doing everything we need
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>>545898838
how about making weapons that aren't unusable dogshit
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>>545896746
>or the right side of ogryn mastery is a total waste?
It is. Looger is useless both in aurics and even havoc.
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>>545898931
That would require actually understanding what makes a good or a bad weapon, or playtesters that actually test things and give feedback instead of pre-recording footage to fuel their jewtube channels with clickbait builds on day 1
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>>545897686
>"Yes, I love having an obligatory blessing tax to make a weapon viable."
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>>545898931
no need for that they can just buff the pre-existing ones
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>>545898931
unusable where, havok 40?
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>>545897351
>"Veteran will have new tools soon!"
>9 months later
>1 melee weapon
>That weapon is just a reskineed power sword with heat mechanic
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>>545899358
and whith Dclaw moveset
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>>545899358
I have a feeling the devs genuinely just fucking forgot about the whole "new toys" thing and only remembered in around September when people started to post about it.
And then as a rush job they made the falchion in like 2 weeks.
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>>545899358
Vet's already pretty damn powerful, what could you even give him that wouldn't make him even more critical to team comp than he is?
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>>545896528
Remember original ogryn?
Jesus christ what a bleak tree.
>an entire node to make your box of hurt release grenades, but ONLY ON THE CONDITION IT HITS CARAPACE
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I agree with Mister E, meltagun should be a zealot weapon
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>>545899789
a plasma sidegrade or a boltgun that doesn't feel fucking terrible to use since plasma is already meta anyway
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Veteran should have Flamer, Meltagun and Autocannon
>inb4 b-but
Didn't ask
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>>545900395
>the sniper class that is only brought for kraks and sniping shooters/specialists should have a weapon that is physically incapable of doing these things
Don't care if you asked, you should fucking kill yourself.
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>>545900395
>autocannon
A bit much for a guy to carry, I would expect that to be an ogryn weapon, but the other two are fine. Infringing a bit on zealot territory, but nobody cares.
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>>545898660
yeah its hard to overstate how poorly these games live up to their potential

i expected an update after chaos wastes proved popular that integrated some of the more creative blessings as talents but i think the truth is any good faith designers are long gone or, if you're capable of being optimistic, working on some untitled UE5 game at this point
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>>545900319
Plasma pistol maybe? I wonder why there isn't one when there's a bolter and a boltgun.
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>>545900395
Veteran should get heavy bolter
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>>545900395
autocannon would be cool if it had a dawn of war coop system where it reloaded faster with assistance
would also be a cool combat ability or maybe even blitz if it required setup time for havoc chokes or objectives
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>>545899796
Yeah.
>Do I want +50% damage and +50% damage reduction against 4 enemies in the game?
or
>Do I want my grenade to do something that it should do by default?
or
>Do I want to apply 6 stacks of bleed onto everything with heavy attacks?

Even better
>Do I want 50% coherency radius?
or
>Do I want stun and suppression imunity and 20% move speed on ability?
or
>Do I want to shave off 10% of my ability everytime someone kills an elite?

And the best column 4
>Do I want -20% damage resistance for each ally currently Knocked Down or Incapacitated that is within 20 meters.
or
>Do I want 100% toughness replenishment when under 25% health
or
>Do I want 60% damage reduction when there's bleeding enemies near me, that has 100% uptime?

Hmmmmm, such difficult "decisions" to be made here.
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>>545900891
You're just saying that because you hope it'll be shared with the ogryn, aren't you?
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>>545901056
No. Ogryn should get melee rippers next
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>>545899796
i swear they make the game first and then choke the design by throwing a talent system on top of it, instead of designing with a progression toward cooler fantasies in mind from the beginning

its utterly incomprehensible. maybe i need to go to sweden to understand how you make something so cool so utterly mid.
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>>545901056
No, he's saying that because he's too dumb to use the normal boltgun correctly and is coping with the need for a hideously overpowered faceroll power fantasy weapon, not realizing that such a thing would be bad for the game.
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>>545901306
>make the hard modes harder
>buff the laggard weapons as needed

woah i solved your player fantasy problem

shouldn't you be getting ready for bed, mr. fatshark?
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>>545901306
Just make the reload horrendously long and give it god-awful mobility as befitting a weapon of its size and power. Bonus points if the reload slows or stops you completely so you actually have to depend on your team covering you (they won't).

To be fair though, the bolter is nice enough on its own, it already melts anything you point it at.
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Post-EA acquisition of Bioware vibes in here.

The hopecoping will not save you from what's to come.
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>>545901465
>reddit spacing
Half this game's arsenal does need buffs, but they're never coming because fatshark only plays malice where such concepts as trash clear ranged weapons are actually kinda good. The shredder, for example, is extremely strong in lower difficulties, and useless dogshit in the higher ones.
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>>545901020
made me remember how broken some builds were combined with how easy the game was at the time.
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>>545901624
i was here when reddit spacing became a meme and i will never stop line breaking my posts because retards like you got poe's lawed into shit formatting

suck my dick and get me some wt snacks from the cupboard, slave
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>>545901306
Heavy bolters are easy to make balanced. Current bolter does about 545 damage with 80% damage stat.
So damage wise just make heavy bolter 645 or 745 damage with 80% damage stat.
And then make it's mag larger, 30 shots in the mag, and then make ammo reserve only 60 ammo.
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>>545901760
>reddit spacing
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>>545901716
i remember that sabotaging damnation missions was far and away the fastest way to level. goddamn that was funny
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>>545901809
holy newfag
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>>545901760
>tries to act superior over arbitrary formatting
>doesn't even have the courtesy to employ correct grammar
Hypocritical double nigger.
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>>545901908
griefing games for the prenerf penances was also pretty funny, i remember when this shit was bugged and every vet was relogging at the end of a game to cheese it
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>>545902056
kek you're trying way too hard
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>>545902303
>manage 90 accuracy and no ammo remaining
>survivalist kicks in right at the end of the mission, +2 to reserve
FUCK ME RUNNING GOD DAMN IT
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>>545902483
I just did that by intentionally not running survivalist (it was auric, don't worry)
And I then I just proceeded to play an assassination mission by just mag dumping the captain shield.
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>>545902772
I wasn't running survivalist, another vet on the team was.
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>>545902303
>>545902483
It was 100% accuracy before the nerf, most just used the revolver on the assassination mission in the jail and then jumped off the edge when the boss died so they didn't respawn before the game ended
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>>545902367
He's right and you're wrong
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>>545902992
I would absolutely be prepared to kill myself if I had to manage 100
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ultimate fatshark cope right here, at least they pretty much admitted that the penances were fucking autistic
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>>545903154
Worst part is that this was before the Class reworks, the Vet regenerated ammo no matter what
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>>545902872
Kek, unfortunate
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>>545903294
And it was more ammo with no cooldown
Dog modifier used to refill the team's ammo because each dog would give you ammo when killed
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>>545903294
>>545902483
Ammo regen'd by Survivalist didn't count for the penance. I beat it by using a shotgun.
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Speaking of powerfalchion, which mark is supposed to be the good one?
they seem equally trash, but at least the mk1 seem to have a way better horde combo for very slightly lower single target
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>>545904445
Who knows?
Probably the one that starts with an overhead heavy attack
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What are the odds that ganger stimms would just be a ripoff of payday 2 kingpin or stoic or something like that
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BUFF HEAVY SWORD, HAVING TO HIT A CRUSHER 30 TIMES ISN'T FAIR
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>>545900891
The Darktide Veteran's are not Catachan's they're not strong enough.
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>>545904961
Nobody knows what that is
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nobody here plays Payday because we're not third worlders... right?
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>>545905228
shut the fuck up and lurk more retard, this isn't your personal malice darktide discord
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>>545905041
My proposed fix!!!:
Special attack applies brittleness by default!
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Only 2 more sleeps until the class reveal...
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>>545905329
we played payday 2 when it came out zoomzoom
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Should we mock the SoB chills when the hive ganger will be revealed?
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>>545905450
2 more stasis periods in Terran standard days
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>>545905556
Yes
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>>545904445
Mk1 flak carapace with heatsink and any other blessing that you want. Spam m1 for every enemy in the game
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>>545905332
No, but it is my personal darktide havoc chad 4chan general
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>>545905556
>SoB chills
But I'm warm.
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>>545900887
and the scab captains already have plasma pistols so they have the weapon models and animations and mechanics figured out as it is
there's no excuse why we can't have one as vet
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>rogue trader
>an arbites is on the same level as a sister, along with just normal ass people with guns, as well as a furry marine
>darktide
>NYOOOOOO YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PUT A SISTER INTO THIS GAME SHE'S TOOOO STRONG
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>>545905556
I'll mock SoB and Tech niggers for getting uppity
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>>545906328
Two more sleeps until you are coping and seething and malding and also maybe roping
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>>545906529
I don't give a shit if it's ganger, in fact I hope it's not sister because I know for a fact Fatshark would do an absolutely dogshit job of making one.
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>get blown off the map by a barrel by some tard
>get to watch some retarded zealot play
I should die more often, spectating people who can't handle 3 poxwalkers at a time is really funny. It's crazy that people like this are content just queueing auric maelstroms though
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>>545906664
What kind of cope is this holy shit lmao
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>>545899191
>brutal momentum
>uncanny strike
>skullcrusher
>thrust
>infernus
>gets hot
>warp nexus
>blazing spirit
I'm sensing a pattern...
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>>545906289
>click to fire shot
>it produces a flash
>enemy dodges the shot
Wtf
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>>545906736
I'm not coping with anything, I'm not the one personally invested in a game that's been dead for years now.
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>>545906664
>>545906736
We are in the sour grapes stage of coping
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>>545906898
>dead
i fucking wish, at least fatshark would be obligated to make shit
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>>545906898
But you are invested in shitposting about a class for a game that's been dead for years?
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>>545906328
>SHE'S TOOOO STRONG
then just make them Repentia
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>>545900621
Heh.
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>>545907410
Autocannons in 40k are quite a bit larger
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2 bedtimes left and SoBtards are already on full copium lmao kek rofl
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>the cope for it being ganger is "well, at least the SoB posters are upset!"
grim
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>>545907174
>just make her naked!
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>>545907653
yes, unironically
grow a fucking spine and make beautiful things again, and if someone tells you that's not heckin' inclusive of you fucking fire them
jesus christ, how is this hard, I thought the goal was to sell a product
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>>545907635
Dark, perchance
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>>545907802
sybau Chudette, an indian is mayor of NYC, you lost.
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>>545907802
Based Anon
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>>545907948
as if it's just the danger hairs that are responsible, the christian prudes are worse
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>>545907635
>Implying
Not everyone are sob or techpriest autists, and some people would rather new maps than a new class just to run in the same 5 corridors
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>>545905556
I'll mock Gangerfags when its not them for unironically hoping for slop.
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>>545908183
>the christian prudes
Were completely unsuccessful
The libtards actually infiltrated the gaming companies and massively changed them from the inside
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>>545906328
Clock them.
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>>545906328
>>545906664
There's already a zealot in the game. There's no reason to add a SoB because a SoB is a zealot. I don't understand you people.
>Have convo with rando in chat
>"I hope they add sisters as a class"
>"why? there's zealot"
>"no, it would be different she'd have faith powers"
>"like zealot book?"
>"..."
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Can you image how dumbfounded we will all be at this point if it turns out it isn't the ganger?
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>>545907174
1) Repentia wouldn't be allowed out of the Repentia Mistresses's sight
2) In W&G Repentia are the same class tier of strength as a regular Sister.
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We will have a Hive Ganger and you will buy it anyway while pretending here that you won't.
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>>545906328
>>an arbites is on the same level as a sister, along with just normal ass people with guns, as well as a furry marine
No, they really aren't.
They are just companions for a rogue trader who hires such people for their abilities.
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>>545908664
I will buy it, play it, grind it out, and never admit to a single fucking one of you that I did, and if you tell anybody I'll deny it and call you schizophrenic.
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>>545908579
This retarded "argument" again...
You're wrong, and no I will not argue further as to why you're wrong. Read the lore.
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>>545908617
Can you image how dumbfounded you will all be at this point if it turns out it isn't the SoB or Techpriest?
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I dunno it's hard to think of something aesthetically less appealing to me than a ganger so I probably won't buy it unless it has interesting abilities and weapons (it wont)
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>>545908664
I ain't pretending. I have spent $600 on darktide and i WILL buy the ganger too
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>Better buff management crashes on every scoreboard
It's not fair, why is it always cheatmods that work flawlessly
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>>545907174
I would feel so safe in her arms..
>>545908664
Wrong. If its Ganger I'll buy it anyway and will bitch about it all the while unless the trailer and gameplay impresses me.
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>>545908841
I will be 0% dumbfounded because i am also expecting the ganger
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>>545908850
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>>545908813
>mfw I've never heard a single argument in favor
What fucking lore? One is a religious lunatic who can do superhuman feats due to the strength of their faith who likes flamers, bolt weapons, and eviscerators. The other is the same but exclusively female.
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>>545907485
The galaxy is big enough for different calibers to coexist. There's gotta be a man-portable light autocannon somewhere alongside the crew-served, wheeled 40mm+ of the tabletop.
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>>545894829
A-are those guys wearing GREENFACE?
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>>545909091
Mmm...
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>>545908664
If it looks like Simon Bisley Hive Ganger art yeah
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>>545908187
>some people (derogatory)
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>>545909128
SoBfags status? BTFO'd beyond recovery
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>>545909251
It was a different time
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>>545908809
Based based based based based
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>>545909336
>seething (hard)
lol
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>>545908771
and all of those companions are interchangeable and on the same power level

>>545908579
bozo post
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>>545907485
Autocannon have different variants like other weapons in 40k though
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>>545909128
Zealots are amateurs. Sisters are trained soldiers. A rare few zealots can do miracles and becomes saints, but miracles and sainthood is far more common in Sisters. Zealots are also generally more melee crazed, while Sisters are more close to mid ranged fighters on average.
Get rekt.
>>545909337
By both of your "logics" Zealot is just Vet 2.0, Ogryn is Vet 3.0, and Arbite is Vet 4.0
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>>545909814
Based.
Just 2 more days until SoB doubters get humbled.
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2 sleeps until Felinids are revealed! Trust the plan anyons!
>:3c
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All the classes are different flavors of Veteran lol
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>>545909983
Nyo :3
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>>545909983
FURR CATCADIA!
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>>545910027
Except for the veteran, who is a weaker gunpsyker.
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>we can't have both of those, they overlap!
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>>545909725
>and all of those companions are interchangeable and on the same power level
Due to gameplay mechanics and game design.
If the space wolf marine was accurate to the lore in Rogue Trader he'd be basically 1 man army that's gonna 1 shot practically everything in his path.
Which would be terrible from a game design and gameplay perspective since he would just complitely invalidate every other companion and there'd be practically no reason to use anyone else.

The companions are not interchangable in terms of power level when it comes to fluff, it's just gameplay abstraction to make the game cohesive.
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>>545910027
2 days until veteran with mechadendrites
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>>545909983
Nyet :3
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>>545909251
yeah they're supposed to be humans stranded on an ork world
so they put on greenface, pretend they're orks and call themselves "diggas"
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>>545910107
>when the the warp hits harder than usual
kek
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>>545909814
>professional zealot
>share 90% of quirks with zealots
>only noteable difference is a stronger preference for ranged combat
And this warrants an entirely new class, how exactly?
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>we can't have powerlevel inequality!
Then why are arbites, ogryns, psykers anx vets stronger in melee than zealots?
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>>545909170
>There's gotta be a man-portable light autocannon somewhere
Yeah, those already exist in Farttide.
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>>545910220
so why can't that also be the case in darktide
we're also just essentially a rogue trader's goons because the inquisitor is a big fat phony
our veteran, a normal human being with no faith or psychic based powers is on the same level as an arbites and an ogryn

why are you willing to forgive power levels being ignored in one game and not the other
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>>545910294
>>545909251
For the non-brits present, they're australians.
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>>545909814
>>545908813
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>>545910334
I'm excited to see your apology in 2 days bitch.
>>545910718
This is still shit.
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>>545910334
You answered your own question.
>>545910467
Sybau.
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>>545910718
sybau
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Daily reminder the veterans of the imperial guard deal with bigger threats around the galaxy 24/7 than arbiters
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>>545910718
Stop trying to force this
It's so obvious that it was made by a sub 90 IQ turdworlder
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>>545910490
>Why can't I play as the Emperor himself if slight variations in power level are erased in favor of balance?

>>545910764
>>545910823
How exactly would you make a faith warrior class focused on bolt weapons, faith powers, and flamers stand out from zealot?
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>>545909814
>A rare few zealots can do miracles
I dunno man, my zealot can pull out a piece of metal every 60 seconds that pulses with holy light and quite literally pushes back the chaotic hellspawn we fight.
The same zealot also can do more damage, tank more damage and swing their weapons harder when their health drops.
And they can tank and survive an ogryn smashing their skull in with a giant fuck off hammer every 2 minutes.

Zealot miracles sound pretty common to me.
Why do we need sisters again?
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>>545911001
As part of a regiment.
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>>545910764
>>545910993
>>545911052
Battle sissies in shambles
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>>545911075
>strawman, deflection
You argued yourself into a corner and are incapable of admitting or even recognizing you were wrong. You just laid out the argument for how a game can have a marine fighting at the same level as a normal human and then immediately threw it out when you realized that applies to darktide.
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>>545911291
You are making battle sissies look good in comparison to you
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>>545911075
>How exactly would you make a faith warrior class focused on bolt weapons, faith powers, and flamers stand out from zealot?
By mostly focusing on close to midranged shooting instead of melee like how the average sister unit in lore fights.
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>>545911327
>nuh uH!
>theys are totally different
We don't need sisters.
You want to larp as a son of bitch? Just pick female zealot with white hair and pick up a bolter and a chainsword or a relic blade.
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I've exclusively played bubbafire psyker for havoc this whole time. Now I'd like to try something new.
But the thought of not having the safety of bubble and flame staff... it shakes me to my core.
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>>545911458
So your solution is to make a veteran 2.0?
That sounds even worse than a zealot 2.0.
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>>545911708
Its a Vet and Zealot hybrid you fat fuck.
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>>545911535
>strawman, deflection, again
uppity midwit incapable of self reflection
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enemy psyker captains when
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>>545911819
Daemonhosts
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>>545908451
This. That retard thinks it’s still the 60s like all libshits.
>>545905332
>>545905523
What a weird thing to say.
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>>545911895
not what i'm looking for
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>>545911458
You do realize you can just play zealot and take talents that apply to ranged combat and you get a pretty decent ranged build? Before the crusher buff, I played zealot built around the Braced auto as my most reliable build and it was very strong.

>>545911327
>strawman, deflection
It's not strawman if it doesn't simplify the original argument which was that existing variations in power levels being ignored should allow for variations of power of ANY magnitude being ignored.
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>>545911690
wtf are those proportions
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>>545908451
>>545912041
>nooo it's just the libs
then explain mastercard and other payment processors actively refusing to process payment for eroge and porn
you really think that's danger hairs? it's fucking not
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>>545899796
sex with cuties like that
>>545906328
RT also has you literally kill Abaddon. that said there’s no reason they can’t just depower them like they did Ogryns.
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>>545912132
>"Um.. Why even have a arbite class you DO know you can just play arbite with Zealot and Veteran right"
shut it
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>>545912347
Arbites has enough distinction in both flavor and tools they use in the lore to warrant a separate class. SoB and zealots don't.
>"uhhhh they'll have MORE faith powers and use flamers and evis and talk about the Emperor..."
Wow.
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>>545912249
Ask yourself why they don't de-bank abortion providers if it's due to pressure from christians
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>>545909128
Technically their strength is more the source of the fact that people in 40k are just naturally stronger/durable than irl ones, as is the case in so much of fiction.
>>545909983
We can only hope.
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>>545912132
he just argued that the gap between a space marine and an, at best, slightly cybernetically augmented human is okay to smear the line on for gameplay purposes, the argument that ANY power level can be ignored is entirely fabricated as part of the strawman
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>>545909251
>>545910294
>>545910313
wtf i love them now……
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>>545912570
>Arbites has enough distinction in both flavor and tools they use in the lore to warrant a separate class
So does Sisters.
>SoB and zealots don't.
Yes they do. If you were right which you're NOT then every single 40k RPG would not have them both as seperate classes.
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>>545910718
>>545908664
Holy TRVKE………
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the best part is that the only argument you need to shut up all of the overlap discussion is
>why would we get grail knight when we already have foot knight
but they won't accept that argument because they didn't play rat game and they actively refuse to acknowledge its existence
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>>545913285
Seeing how you think this is a viable comparison, you didn't play it either. 40kfags should rope tbdesu
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>>545913026
>So do sisters.
Please tell me some of these things because everything I've heard mentioned so far is part of how I would describe the zealot class. I'm not going to make fun of you or twist anything you say, at this point I'm genuinely curious at this point if you can come up with something that's already not part of the zealot kit.
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>>545913285
Vernintide classes are much more narrow in their scope of roles and abilities and are not comparable to darktide classes
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>>545913580
Handmaiden Kerillian would sweep through havoc 40.
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>>545913574
>explain myself a millions times
>"um.. explain it again"
No kill yourself.
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>>545913580
just because they're not identical doesn't mean they're not comparable
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>>545911781
Veteran already has miracle powers with the voice of command and gold toughness.
Sister isn't needed at all.
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>545913812
Shut up faggot
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I GOTTA FLAAME

I AM FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAMING THE 11 GROANERS HERE
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I can't ping shit is this a new bug?
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>>545913697
With a broom after the real classes have already cleared it
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>>545913706
>"Uhhh faith based powers, evis, bolters and flamers but with a more ranged twist"
You know you'd just embarrass yourself.
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>>545914148
You'll feel embarrassed in 2 days.
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You should be auto kicked from the mission if you die
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>>545913970
>R-Real classes... Like SOB?

MFW - It won't happen because GW won't allow ugly sisters with Fatsharks shit customisation and hairstyles.
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>>545913965
Has been happening to me too
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I told you I'd enjoy just how contentious this class reveal is no matter what class it is, and boy am I enjoying it right now
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>>545913706
Your explonation has only been "well they'd be zealot but ranged".
Which is already a thing you can do with the current zealot.
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>>545913909
lol he's not even flaming the groaners.
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>>545911690
That would be problematic with the Psyker around.
>>545912249
What you’re talking about is something extremely recent and ephemeral. It’s a drop in the ocean compared to the other stuff.
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>>545913909
Just don't get netted.
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The new class is going to be a naked slut with huge tits and ass with zero combat abilities or weapons
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>>545914661
If you ever get netted, the game should just alt+F4 to desktop and uninstall irreversibly.
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>>545913895
>can't reply directly anymore because he's such a bitch and has no actual arguments
Go be a battle sissy elsewhere.
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>>545914683
So like an improved Zealot.
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>>545913481
Or maybe he’s just a ratfaggot who doesn’t know what he’s talking about (many such cases)
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>>545914683
Said new class, not new community manager.
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>>545913285
>comparing foot knight and grail knight
More accurate comparison would be foot knight vs arbites.
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>>545914610
yeah, and """recently""" states have started putting forward bills to ban porn nationally, and have started requiring identification to verify you're an adult online from google using your fucking ID card or bank card
I wonder what's been happening """recently""" to empower these people
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>>545914297
>Because the rest of the american political apparatus would intervene
Right. Libtards would fight it. Libtards however push for the uglification of video game characters so that's what we get
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>>545914863
>tfw no community manager with combat abilities or weapons
Why even live?
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My never ever. Would also be cool if they introduced a named Servitor Underseer that contributes to the conversations.
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>>545912041
retarded post
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>>545915168
Sounds like he struck a nerve
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>>545914683
I'd pay 3 kebabs for that if it was real.
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>>545914863
they'll never be able to afford another aqshy
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>>545915240
you strike nerves in your boyfriend's ass daily, nothing special slave
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>>545915087
The current bots we have in darktide should be replaced with servitors.
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>>545914558
I'm enjoying the shitposting.
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>>545915503
Das rite, straightoid
*shoves my dick up your mouth*
How does my boyfriend's shit taste?
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>>545915009
>using libtards unironically
>thinking of politics as team blue and team red
do amerimutts really?
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>>545915824
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*feels nothing as the gaping would you call a dick bleeds everywhere*
*kicks your ass*
i'd spit on you but that'd just turn you on, faggot
*turns to leave*
oh, and ywnbaw
*tosses a >>545915727 behind him as he walks away*
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>>545915824
Nope. There are also the porn addicted trannies who bump up against the prudish feminazi libtards
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>>545916265
i am begging you to go outside and talk to a human being in real life that isn't working a service job at the time
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>>545916078
Every /General/ has to have someone ERP'ing. I swear.
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>>545916078
Bro really struggled for a response
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>>545916265
We're beyond the horseshoe and the fish hook now, we're approaching the hypercube.
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>>545916617
Replace "libtards" with "christians" and all your talk neuance would disappear and be replace with agreement. You just don't like it admit who's really responsible
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>>545916918
>>545917464
What the fuck has any of this got to do with co-op games you utter fucking morons??
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>545914760
I've been here before you and I will be here long after you
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>>545917475
ZAAAAAMN SHE LOOKS 12!?!
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>>545917578
in the 41st millennium there is only culture war
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What's with the faggoty erotic roleplay? Is Rajesh off his meds again?
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>>545915087
Or they could just release the Techpriest class with Servitor summons a la Necromancer skeletons and an Underseer specialization on the skill tree
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>>545917464
>California liberals infested the entertainment industry
Took you long enough to admit
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>>545917475
Imagine being restrained in her bag and she tonguefucks your butt
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>>545912041
You made the jeet cry well done he has no rebuttal
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>>545917647
25 minutes and that's the cope you come up with?
You're a 3rd rate shitposter with 4th rate shit. Go be a retard on reddit, it's more up to your speed.
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>>545917887
>a la
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>545918072
>25 minutes
Unlike you I don't spend my entire existence in this general fatty.
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>>545917578
Fatshark made a game with ugly girls in it that have no boobs because they're using male models for all of their outfits.
They did it because they're ideologically compromised.
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>>545915087
No one wants to play as a lobotomized robot dumbass just be satisfied with the AdMech
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>>545918173
you amerilards are retarded
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>>545918421
Ah you're the "america bad" guy lol
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>>545914379
>tfw using focus target
>tfw pinging doesn't work
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>>545918173
What's the problem? It's a pretty normal thing to say in english
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>>545918812
It's usually used by pretention assfaggots
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>>545918983
what is a pretention assfaggot?
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The next class will be an admech dude, most likely a skittle, since the Mechanicus 2 game is releasing in 2025. And we are at the end of the year by now, so it is likely they'll release Mechanicus 2 in December.
Just like the next class which is gonna come out December 2nd alongside the next and last major update of this year.
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>>545920313
I wish!
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when people use term like "a la" you always know he must an mechanicus or something
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>>545918301
That's true. But I'll be honest, I think they are doing it because of laziness too.
Since both male and female characters in this game looks practically the same while with clothes on, it just means less work for them to do since they don't need to tweak each cosmetic.
And we all know that Fatshit is allergic to work, so they took the easy way out.
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>>545918983
>"y-you're pretentious!"
Shut it fatty. Anyone who calls anything pretentious are just admitting that they're inferior.
>>545920313
>releasing in 2025
There's no confirmed released date for mechanicus 2 fatty
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It'd be funny if all the ganger talk just turns out to be Fatshark trolling the playerbase.
Like they intentionally had the youtubers spread speculation over ganger as a class.
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Darktide: the cope times
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SistersCHAD here, for the record I'd be happy with admec and maybe even ganger but the zealotfags who keep saying SoB would be too strong or too redundant piss me off so I can't help but argue with them out of spite cus they're wrong.
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>>545920820
>There's no confirmed released date for mechanicus 2 fatty
There is.
https://www.kasedogames.com/mechanicus-2

Kasedogames is the publisher for the game, just like it was the publisher for Mechanicus 1.
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>>545920313
God I hope.
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>>545921165
Sisters of Catachan
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>>545921165
>"I love being a cuckquean!"
>"Shut up, battlesissie, I'm gonna release ganger now!"
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>>545920875
I theorized it. They kept shilling a class almost no one wants to deflect from the real class. I wouldn't be surprised if the datamined name Broker was a red herring and had nothing to do with the actual class cus they knew nerds would datamine it.
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>>545920313
-Space Marine 2 is also getting a Tech Marine class.
- Dawn of War 4 will have playable Adeptus Mechanicus
- Rogue Trader's 3'rd DLC has an Augmentics system.
- And as you mentioned Mechanicus 2 releases soon.

Also I found this in a previous thread.

All in all it looks like a Tech-Adept/Priest or Skitarii is the likely next class.
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>>545921315
>he can't help but think of NTR at every moment of his life
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>>545920313
Probably true
>>545920528
He must what a Mechanicus
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I already imagine the cope when Fatshark announces the Ganger
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>>545921528
>he think NTR not is a part of life
ahjahha, you really think when the battle sister's talks to guardsman it pure love? what wrong baby this is space marine boyfriend
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>>545922061
>this guy is in your general
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2 days until sobbers get what's coming to them (nothing)
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>>545922039
Funny thing is they KNOW it will be a ganger, that's why they're so agressive here.
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>>545921165
Sister would just be zealot 2.0.
It's not needed. And no, the devs won't make the class a ranged zealot with miracles, it'd be a melee class because the devs are uncreative.
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>>545922301
Very true.
But at least I'll be happy, I'm fine with a ganger class.
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>be excited for skibitarius
>start thinking it's going to be ganger and get disappointed
>start getting excited for ganger
If it turns out to be skibitarius and my excitement doesn't come back then i'm gonna sperg out and push a TV remote in my ass
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>Sisters of battle don't fuck
>We have at least two stories about a sister of battle fucking a soldier of the astra militarum
>Even another with similar premise but with female tech-priest in horus heresy
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Just so we're clear, the sole and entire point of burst limiter override is to stretch your rumbler ammo?
At the cost of 24% damage, 10% attack speed, 10ish% TDR and 60% impact?
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>>545921165
As a fake sister enjoyer I really don't want them to add an actual SoB. They would overlap just as much with Zealot as a Hive Ganger would with Vet. Better we get an admech so there is at least some justification for genuinely new weapons and abilities.
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>>545922879
This with a shield and power weapon
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>>545922794
roombling is THAT good
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>>545922794
Unironically yes.
It's fucking grim that melee ogryn isn't that viable in havoc when compared to the rumbler one.

I just want to be a fucking an ogre that can face tank a horde properly in H40. But nooo, I gotta be a fucking aggro stagger bot with infinite grenades.
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>>545922792
Heretical, they're nuns with guns and nuns don't fuck because they're married to jesus, as the space nuns should be married to the emperor.
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>>545923047
I do hope we get new weapons on december 2nd too. And something actually cool, like a shield weapon for zealot and a staff for psyker.
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Anyone watching the warhammer stream? THey just teased the new class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixDNTIKCDUs
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>>545922792
It's just the typical GW bullshittery.
You're right about sisters fucking, it happens in some of the novels, and neither do they take a vow of chastity or something.

The whole rogue trader fiasco where you can't romance the SoB is just GW being bunch of dicks changing the fluff on a whim because they want to.
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>>545923379
I hope to f*cking G-d it won't basically be a power falchion with shield
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>>545923425
watched it, didn't see any tease for a new class there it's just generic darktide trailer stuff
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>>545923379
Arby didn't launch with new weapons for the reject classes, so I'm not counting on it
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>>545922061
>space marine boyfriend
Space marines don't have a sex drive. That was completely removed when they were turned into marines. Hell, a lot of marines don't even know what sex is considering they were recruit when they were young teens and their sex drive nuked.
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>>545922405
>Sister would just be zealot 2.0.
Stop replying to me with wrong statements I've addressed a million times.
>>545922879
Sisters of Battle don't use Thunder Hammers.
>at least some justification for genuinely new weapons and abilities.
Sisters would get new weapons. Power Halberd, Meltagun, Multimelta, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Flamer, Inferno Pistol maybe.
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>>545922792
>Sisters of battle don't fuck
Who the hell said SoB's don't fuck? Its literally mentioned that Sisters can and will fuck other Sisters and other men.
>>545923216
Retard Sisters aren't married to the emperor. Their original title was DAUGHTERS of the Emperor.
>>545923586
this. they only made argenta non romanceable because they knew most players would probably default to her.
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>>545925020
*hits pipe*
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>>545924594
yes anon... that why when the sister of battle's say "dont worry about space marine honey" and then go to for an trip together the guardman doesnt worry, right?
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>>545923216
>nuns with guns
That's just a meme.They're not actual nuns.
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>>545923586
It's not about a vow of chastity, it's about not having either the time or care for anything other than praying, training, and battle.
>>545924594
>space marines don't have a sex drive
>it was removed
Space marines never even get to develop a sex drive because they're subjected to hormonal treatments which either intentionally or unintentionally ensures they never mature sexually.

>>545924830
>Statements I've addressed a million.
A ranged variation of religious zealo- I mean devotee that uses faith powers, bolters, flamers and eviscerator doesn't count.
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>>545924314
Arby wasn't a 10 year anniversary release.
>>545925245
>Space marines never even get to develop a sex drive
Not all of them. There are plenty of marines who have had sex before being turned into Marines. Like Lukas the trickster. Except just like him their sex drive gets nuked after becoming a Marine.
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>>545923837
you were too slow you missed it
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>>545925420
>Lukas the Trickster
That's just shitty writing from writers who ignore the established lore that aspirants are taken from boys age max 13. Maybe you could say Lukas got laid when he was 12 as a Gigachad but was probably a case of bad writing. Either that, or 30k Astartes aspirants were older.
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>>545925759
>boys age max 13.
You think 11 to 13 year old boys don't have sex? Especially in backwater savage and feudal worlds?
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>>545922743
But anon, you already promised to drink a glass of you own piss....
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>>545926120
Different guy, but i'll still drink my piss
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Whether its Sisters of Admec I'll be extremely happy. I'll only be mad if its gangerslop.
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>>545925876
Maybe. For example, humans IRL are hitting puberty earlier and earlier on average every generation, and since living conditions on savage/feudal worlds probably looks more like how we lived a thousand years ago than how we do now, I'd assume they take longer to sexually mature as well, so I imagine they wouldn't have sex ages 11 and 13.
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>>545920313
Next roguetrader DLC involves necrons which means tech-priests. More than likely. Sissies of battle its joever.
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>>545926590
necrons are so boring to fight hoooolyyyyyy
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>>545926649
Won't be alive for Fatshark to do Orctide - Instead of barrels you get yeeted off the ledge by an Orkboi RPG
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Sloppers
Slopsters of Battle
Sloptarii
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>>545926671
Is the lanky one supposed to be a voidborn? That's cool.
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Oooooh, why can’t it be Tuesday already? I’m so done waiting, it’s driving me crazy! :,(
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>>545926671
Wish I had a friend group like this..
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>>545926869
dis nigga don't know a voidborn from a longshanks, get him bois
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>>545926965
But, anon
You have us
*places my paw on your shoulder*
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>>545926869
she's a longshank
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>>545926869
Longshanks, voidborn is just a catch all for anyone born on a spaceship, Longshanks in particular mutated extremely long but fragile limbs restricting them to zero g or low gravity worlds.
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>>545927178
I could easily see up her top O_O
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>>545926859
Seething Zealot hands typed this
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>>545927638
But i have paws?
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I kind of regret buying the Arbites DLC I find that class pretty boring and I barely play it.
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>>545927761
MUTIE, REDEEM THEM
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>>545928280
I'd rather have an arbites than rat bites
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In today's adventure in off meta weapons, I returned to the humble Vigilant Autogun (formerly headhunter), now that they don't have jank recoil I found I quite like it.
The Columnus mkIII makes the most out of its niche strength; offering rapid, accurate, high crit bursts to drill through clusters of elites, while having some ammo to spare for shooters. Though the Graia mkVII has high single shot damage, it has far too much competition in that single shot category.
The Columnus on the other hand is a 3-round burst, and each shot in a burst criticals off a single crit proc. This synergizes well with its high finesse profile and blessings. Headhunter returns 2-3 stacks each pull, making for a snappy high crit headclicker with no waiting. Combine with Deadly Accurate for more damage
Veteran with 1-2 of the Rending/Brittleness lets the Columnus kill plasma/maulers faster with headshots, or even drill down Crushers without feeling too bad about it.

Short version: Try the Columnus Vigilant Autogun on Veteran. It is not terrible.
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I'm not reading that ChatGPT shit
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>>545928543
I think i prefer the agripeener
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Wolfer for Mayor 2026
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>>545928280
I kind of regret buying Darktide I find that game pretty boring and I barely play it.
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>>545928473
Is this the Horus Heresy I've heard about? I don't know this setting or why they need 40,000 warhammers.
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>>545928910
You're in the wrong general, buddy
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>>545928993
Have you seen the size of their spaceships? you need all the hammers you can find to build them
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>>545929027
not until you actually title it darktide general
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>>545928280
I didn't buy Arbite simply cus ACAB. Now I'm being rewarded with Arbite not getting any DLC cosmetics, and a new class coming soon.
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>>545929117
You're allowed to discuss any coop game you like, as long as it's Darktide
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>>545927087
thanks bro.. but that's my ass.
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>>545928280
got 100 extra hours out of it or so
but yeah I went back to original 4 classes afterwards and never looked back
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>>545929314
the second rogue core hits early access I'm going post about it here until one of you has a melty and starts making a split general for me
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>>545929251
God, i'd love to kneel on your neck as you slowly die from a drug overdose
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>>545928280
I have no regrets about buying it but I came to the same conclusion
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>>545929442
Morbidly obese. That rat is gonna die of a heart attack.
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>>545928681
I found the Agripinaa's double tap wasn't enough to reliably interrupt a Trapper, which moves it down a tier for me.
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>>545928910
I don't regret it, but I refunded it at release because it was pure dogshit at launch and in the beta.
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>>545928280
I like it but find the lack of diverse weapons boring. Arby maul is strong but its moveset is so boring compared to indignatus.
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>>545929464
That won't happen. You'll be drowned out by darktide discussions and you will quickly lose interest
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>>545929515
Lol enjoying your lack of cosmetics and boring gameplay piggy wiggy?
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>>545929515
far more likely is you pulling the sovereign citizen card and getting shot at a traffic stop
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>>545928543
Cool, but I'll stick to the bolter, plasma and helbore.
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>>545929748
kek you owned xher here
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>>545928543
>In my yesterday's adventure in off meta weapons, I returned to the dogshit Ironhelm Thunder Hammer (formerly trash), now that two years have passed since the release I found it's still dogshit.
>The ironhelm makes nothing out of its general weakness, offering low, slow, low crit multiplier swings to harmlessly toss around clusters of groaners, while having no damage to spare for bosses. Though the Crucis has extreme single attack damage to one shot bosses, the Ironhelm simply has the worst of both worlds.
>The Ironhelm on the other hand is a multi target weapon, and each enemy in an attack takes next to no damage. This synergizes well with watching the girl you always liked having sex with a filthy Indian. Ironhelm returns 2-3 stack each shove, making for a slow low damage rubber mallet with long wating. Combine with anything else for more disappointment.
>Zealot with 1-2 Slaughterer/Headtaker lets the Ironhelm kill wounded groaners with the special, or even stagger stalkers without feeling any good about it.

>Short version: Try the Ironhelm Thunderhammer on Zealot to see how terrible it is.
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>>545929748
Meanwhile in reality
>get pulled over
>oh, it's you, Officer Kneely. You're free to go
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>>545928280
I enjoyed it for about 20 hours until I got to level 30 and completed almost all challenges... so I can't say I regret it. I'm probably gonna do the same to the next class
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>>545929979
you're not a cop, you don't even have a job
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>>545929975
Kek
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>>545930146
You really wish this was true, don't you?
The fact that i'm out there putting scum like you in cuffs absolutely terrifies you, doesn't it?
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>tfw haven't played since mid-September and I know there was at least one update that reset talent trees in that time
>the thought of going and redoing my builds has deprived me of any motivation to boot up the game even though it'd only take like ten minutes to redo them and, knowing Fatshark, the changes were probably minimal at best and downright nonfunctional at worst
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it feels pretty bad for a chaos spawn to hold you up in the air and eat you over a floor that's on fire, and you take fire damage even though you're hanging pretty far above the flames
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>>545930469
You also hate reading and have ADHD
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>>545930541
you didn't need to call me out like that anon
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>>545930267
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We need more maps to have an escape sequence like Hab Dreyko or an optional survival part after assassination missions.
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>>545928473
Kek
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>>545928886
wolfer jobs to dreg shotgunner
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>>545927975
Which way, Western Man?
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>>545930516
Heat rises, anon.
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>>545931918
So does meat
*gets an erection*
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>>545931742
Sidney Sweeney has a retarded face her only assets are her bazongas and your shitty AI slop is hidding them
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Ganger.
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>>545932215
Ginger.
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>>545930329
mad cus bad
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>>545932057
Anon, why don't you take a seat,
Were you aware how old this anon you were speaking to was?
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You guys are going nuts just because of the new class lol
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>>545932460
SEXUS MINORS 12
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>>545932460
Why don't you tell us all so the mods can hear it?
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>>545932529
We should be going nuts over the Rations event and what it means
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>>545932529
Its all in good fun.
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>>545932662
>>545932697
The new class will be something NOBODY saw coming.... literally hehehehehe...
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>>545932825
>nobody
It won't be a blank either.
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>>545932825
We already have 2 stealth classes
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>Sisters of battle Trailer at the tournament
We won.
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>>545932939
Uhh... uh oh
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>>545933185
If that were tru I'd buy ultra mega deluxe edition
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>>545925075
>go to for an trip together
good morning sir
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>>545933185
And the new Bolt gun game
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE NEW TRAILER I TOLD YOU HAHAHAHAHA

ITS A SISTER OF BATTLE GET FUCKED GANGERS
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>>545933440
It's an ultramarine but small
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Watch all this speculation and seething completely be up ended when fatshark shows the class and it turns out to be something like a fucking navy breacher.
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>>545930516
>eaten by a burgle
>get shot
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give me a bubble psycher build
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>>545933440
Post the trailer then.
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The Emperor of Man's beautiful brown skin.
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Gangerfags absolutly BTFO
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>>545933790
Navy Breachers already got banished to the slop shop
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>>545933440
>>545934024
post please kind sir's/madam's.
>>545933790
Impossible as Navy Breachers are already cosmetics.
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>>545933952
no
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>>545933440
Is this the first leak? If so I can't wait to rub this in the face of doubters on tuesday.
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>>545933440
What is this heresy?
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The rumors were true they would show the trailer early during the warhammer world championships as a gift to the 150 viewers but you laughed at me . WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?
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>>545934536
Well post the trailer. Or link time stamp.
Otherwise you are just shitposting.
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LET'S GOOOOOOOOO WHILE THE GANGERFAGS ARE CRYING, HOW WILL YOU NAME YOUR SISTER OF BATTLE
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>>545933440
>>545934536
Are you mistaking the Warhammer+ streaming service ad for the Darktide one?
There's only 1 darktide one and it is wholly generic.
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>>545934918
I shant be saying lest my name be stolen.
Its actually the name of my loose cannon vet, but I will have to change her name as I think her name will be more fitting for Sisters.
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STAPH BAITING ANON, MY HEART...
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>>545934918
i have the same name for all my characters
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>>545933440
>no proof
YAAAWN
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>>545935165
>coping already
Get your apology ready in 2 days.
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>>545935048
Sister Faggotine?
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>>545933952
Your flame staff (warp nexus+blaze away) build, sir.
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>>545935309
You WISH but I will pretend she's a dyke.
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Its true...

PRAISE THE EMPEROR, OUR FAITH IS REWARDED. FUCK CLANKERFAGS, FUCK GANGERFAGS
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>>545935413
She's beauty, she's grace, she'll shoot you in the face.
>>545935434
Anon I want sisters but thats a trailer for a Warhammer + show. Thanks for getting my hopes up.
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Darktide trailer showed but then twitch showed a fucking ad. Wow.
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>>545935434
Anon, that is specifically a screenshot from the Warhammer + streaming service ad.
You got fucking played.
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>>545935708
wroted
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>>545935326
let’s gooooooo
ty trying this now
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>average Grey Knight armor paint fangay
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>>545933440
post a screencap
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>>545932118
I really dislike this woman.
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>>545936137
>>545935434
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>>545935221
YAAAAAAAAWN
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given that fatshark already more or less proved they no longer have the expertise to add even a single new mechanic or non-cosmetic model to darktide in the plasma gunner, power saber, and the arbites, i don't understand how anyone can think it'll be anything more complex than ganger
the fact is even if its your dream class, it'll just be a neutered version with piss toughness, stealth and a charge
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SEXTUS MINORIS ONE SIS SEX
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>>545935434
>retard who can't change the canvas size also falls for a warhammer+ ad and is a SoBtroon
pottery
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>>545936194
She holds too much power...
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>>545935434
Anon I....
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>>545936207
Anon.. that's.. not for Darktide. I'm sorry.
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>>545936429
I eat glue...
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do sisterfags really
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>>545936696
Its literally only 1 guy who thought it was an actual sisters darktide trailer.
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>>545936349
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>>545936957
based furchad
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>>545936276
>even a single new mechanic
They just added the best dog system of any game in the world
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>>545936957
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>>545936957
why are they everywhere
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>>545935434
BWAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT WHAT A FUCKING RETARD LMFAO
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Recon lasgun build is pretty fun.
Didn't know it did that much damage on bosses
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>>545937078
>>545937162
>being offended by furries when Vermintide is a thing
Furries are in all warhammer games.
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>>545937283
Furries don't like animals because they're cool. The like them because it's a sexual fetish that bleeds into the rest of their lives.
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>>545937182
Calm down anon you already applied to him once.
>>545936429
>>545937387
And how does that affect you?
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>>545937162
Furfags became more bold when mental illness acceptance like LGBTQIDK became more common, since there's plenty of overlap
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>>545937023
>uhh sweatie don't you remember the MW3 dog
>you can feed it
>you can care for it
>>545937078
Yes. You kill furries in every warhammer game they appear in.
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>>545937426
Their mere existence offends life itself.
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>>545937162
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>>545937528
meds
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>>545936957
>I commissioned this art of my character
>and here's my friend's character, in the forefront, while I stand off to the side
https://youtu.be/HOoUteabhgc?t=14
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>>545937585
>dogfucker telling people meds
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>>545937640
kek
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>>545937640
>and here's my friend's character, in the forefront, while I stand off to the side
Huh you make a good point.
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>>545937530
Single, childless american men with STEM degrees. They have more disposable income than 99.99% of the world
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>Telekine Shield branches to all three Keystones directly
>Venting Shriek and Scrier's Gaze are taxed 1-2 points if you want to reach other Keystones
mildly irritating
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Lol. Remember when that FUCKING RETARD thought we got a SoB teaser for darktide?
What a FUCKING RETARD that guy was. I hope he died
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>mfw I forget to swap out the Martyrdom curios three games in a row
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>>545938279
anon that was 20 minutes ago
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>>545937849
No no, it's perfectly well thought out: you will always use disrupt destiny with scriers gaze, warp siphon with the other two and you will always take the two damage nodes in the middle.
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>>545937849
1: It's gonna get reworked
2: It's far better than before bound by doody
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>>545934918
Lex Offender
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>>545938780
funniest shit I've ever heard
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The existence of this as a curio perk implies it was intended to be possible to revive enemies. Right?
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>>545935434
>SoBnig this retarded
Yeah...
>>545937426
>applied
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>>545937849
Yeah I do not get why blitzes were made free to choose from for basically everyone, but not abilities. And then there's shit like ogryn's auras being surrounded by pretty major nodes that you can only access from above. Better take the 5% rending node chuddy.
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>>545938859
>applied
Yes you should apply yourself into being a better person.
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>>545937849
See >>545896929

Everything is morphing back to the old talent trees as it was here >>545896528
Doublethink is insisting that the new talent trees are "so epic and interesting" but then also cheering when they just functionally turn it back into the old career 3x5s. lmao
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>>545938852
It's to make sure retards don't think it applies on themselves.
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>>545939005
Based ESL.
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>>545938852
It means you yourself aren't being revived faster by someone else, or that it would be both.
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>>545939067
>>545939220
I would use it if it only applied to me
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>>545936546
She is also a fucking idiot. After watching interview clips of her she is either heavily medicated or extremely dimwitted.
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>>545939434
Same. There's a reason the medkit you carry when you're in the military (or in the civil defense if you're allergic to 5.45 :DD) is for yourself.
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>>545939925
both are pretty much guaranteed in that industry
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>>545939813
I don't get it.
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>>545939925
I would NOT keep my composure if I had to speak in front of millions of people.
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>>545937426
u bloddy basterd do NOT apply to me one more time with this shit you have wrote
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>>545940164
Same but in front of 3 people
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>>545939925
She was talking to some retarded leftoid in her recent interview and was struggling to stay polite so he had to think carefully and talk slowly. Anyone who has talked to "people" like this know the feeling
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>>545940078
Look closelyer
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>>545937023
it literally uses the existing dog movement and attack decision tree and animations, and it only knocks down enemies that use a human morph because they didn't want to or couldn't animate the other enemies interacting with it
>b-but elites
and the mutants?
>b-but uh... that's an ogryn?
the dogs?
>....
exactly shut the fuck up
also hired gun probably did it better
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How's the laspistol compared to recons for lasgun builds?
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>>545939813
>>545940460
I don't get it
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>>545940634
Sidegrade, subject to user preference.
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>>545940747
>>545940078
The psyker doesn't know what to do with ammo from the vet's aura.
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>>545940827
would
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>>545940631
>it literally uses the existing dog movement and attack decision tree and animations
Already completely wrong. The animations were all done from scratch (no pun intended)
Are you the same retarded faggot who keeps repeating this very same lie despite being debunked countless times?
>and it only knocks down enemies that use a human morph because they didn't want to or couldn't animate the other enemies interacting with it
Just like how player ogryns don't get pounced, right?

It's crazy how fucking stupid you are
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>>545940938
But they can use guns and get ammo
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Less than 24 hours before both the Skittles and Sluts of Battle camps are unanimously disappointed by the announcement of the Ganger.
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>>545941010
>debunked countless times
and yet you couldn't disprove a single detail, are you lazy or retarded?
the ogryn enemies have a different morph, jesus you're stupid
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>>545940631
lol you just got fucking destroyed >>545941010
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>>545941120
>by the announcement of the Ganger
not getting announced because we get a ratling.
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>>545941198
>exact posting delay
if you're going to samefag at least put some effort in please
don't bother editing the style sheet either, i'm closing the tab until other real humans come back from dinner with their loving families
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>>545940954
No anon! You'll get megaAIDS!
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>>545941129
>and yet you couldn't disprove a single detail
The burden of proof is on you, dumbass. When a retard like you makes a series of wrong and retarded claims, then it falls on YOU (the retard) to prove it
All information that have gotten about the dogs tells us that the animations are practically all brand new
>muh morphs
Wrong again, retard. You didn't even think of player ogryns getting pounced before i schooled you on it
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>>545941607
>I'm making shit up
Oh, okay. Pipe down, slave.
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>>545940631
>and the mutants?
Why would a dog take down a mutant? What are you smoking? The dog is like 30-50kg and the mutant is like 500kg of raw muscle.
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>>545941680
STOP STOP YOU'RE DESTROYING HIM!
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>>545941761
*fucks your face while wearing full mauler carapace*
take that!
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>>545941363
ratling would be the biggest disappointment they could announce
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>>545941680
I love how you have been ass raped so often by me that you have started using my own phrases and insults just so you have a chance of competing against me
You'll lose this one too ;-)
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>>545940319
>leftoid

You are part of the problem. You are fighting the wrong enemy.
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>>545942001
Reddit Spacing.
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>>545942000
Trips of truth
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>>545942000
nobody cares who you are except a guy who thinks you're that king ass ripper idiot from the forums
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if it's admech i'll be impressed
if it's sob im gonna lmao
if it's ganger i'll be indifferent
if it's a brand new made up thing i'll facepalm
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>>545942220
You might as well call me that cuz i just ripped this retard's ass open >>545941680
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>>545940954
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Is there any reasonable way to redeem people fallen to chaos nonlethally? Or is it a lost cause with steel and fire being the only real answer.
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>>545942561
Bald is where I draw the line... unless she's part of a genestealer cult or has 4+ eyes
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>>545942854
Depends on how far they've fallen, too far and it corrupts their soul
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>>545942854
only if you catch them in the very early stages. if it's someone surrounded by nurgle slop and their skin is peeling off or horns coming out of their ass, it's too late and fire is the only answer
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>>545942931
But look at her cute smile anon!
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>>545940631
You just got btfo

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-the-cyber-mastiff-dev-blog/108442
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>>545943136
I guess she can wear a hoodie...
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>>545943217
>gptslop and a fatshark post
this has to be a false flag post, no one is this stupid
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>>545942220
>that king ass ripper idiot from the forums
qrd?
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>>545940631
>I have zero programming experience and let me tell you these people programmed this thing
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>>545943217
you have to be doing a bit here, right? it's all a joke?
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>>545943353
Grok is this true?
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>>545943469
Grok here. You're a dumb faggot. Peace.
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>>545943536
Gork here youz bof dum gitz
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>>545939813
>gachashit
SHINE!
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>>545943536
>>545943739
Gonna go clean my butt. Sorry nurgle tee hee
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>>545943434
Illiterate retard
They based it on poxhound behavior but had to fully rework it
>wtf dog 1 is similar to dog 2?
No shit, retard. You aren't smart enough to be having this discussion
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Nono, Fatshark totally didn't reuse shit lazily. Here, a blogpost by Fatshark rationalizing why it's not just lazy reusing. Surely this is a trustworthy authority on the subject. This is the same dev that claimed they can't change the store to have all items because it would "confuse consumers" btw
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>>545940173
apply yourself
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>>545943930
you just posted a chatgpt mobile screenshot
you aren't smart enough to warrant the oxygen you use
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>>545943949
Oh also, remember when Fatshark said that sharing dockets, plasteel etc between characters was "immeasurably complex"? I could do something like that with a database in literally like, 3 minutes.
Imagine actually reading any of the stupid corpospeak dogshit Fatshark says and taking it at face value. You must be the absolute dumbest sucker in the universe.
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>>545943353
>NO YOU CAN'T JUST DEBUNK ME WITH IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time
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>>545942854
They are turned into Arco-flagellants, servitors or penal legionaires if they aren't BLAM'D.
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>>545944104
You're dumber than an AI. How embarrassing for you >>545944378
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>>545944378
>>545944552
pretending to be retarded and actually being retarded are not so distant concepts
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Trust us when we say that arbites left keystone is NOT a reskin of disrupt destiny. Please just trust us
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>>545942854
There are unironicaly some Word Bearers who have returned to worshipping the Emperor in secret.
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>>545944602
If i'm pretending to be retarded but still curbstomping you with ease, just imagine what i could do if i played smart
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>>545944952
you'll have to ask chatgpt to imagine that scenario for you
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Greentide with customizable Deathwatch marines would be kino thougheverbeit
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>>545945072
>HEY HERE'S ANOTHER GAME WHERE YOU PLAY AS MARINES
No.
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>>545937849
probably fatshart's way of helping players not make retarded choices
in this case at least
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>>545945260
Yeah we get it you would rather play as a stupid pissant like a hive ganger
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>>545945539
>ganger out of nowhere
Obsessed.
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the new class is going to be an abhuman
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>>545945070
Don't like chatgpt? Just read the forum post
Doesn't matter anayway, does it? You'll find some way to cope
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>>545945754
It's already confirmed to be something admech
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>>545946030
What makes you think that Fatshark is a trustworthy source on Fatshark dev practices?
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>about to craft up a new weapon so it has 60% mobility instead of 61% (of which I'm currently using)
aaaaaaaaaa
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Check the stream. They just confirmed ratling
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I am the stream and I confirm the ratlings
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>>545946140
In an argument against an even less reliable and even more retarded anon on 4chan?
The forum post wins
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>>545946304
Someone already posted a leaked STC-themed cosmetic frame in this thread
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>>545942854
It's kind of like drug addiction. You have to want to be redeemed.
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>>545946674
That's the 7th class
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>>545946307
looks retarded
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>>545946816
Stop looking in the mirror
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>>545946867
no u
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I dont want a SoB if theres not a cute new female face that comes with it
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when are we getting a Rogue Trader-tide
i want to play cool characters from ALL of the different factions
i want aeldari
i want drukhari
i want tau
i want bitches of battle
i want ad mech
i want astra militarum
i don't actually care that much about spess muhreens, they already have several billion games fuck off
i would like Ork, Nids, and Chaos but uhhhhhhhhh pftttttt ahahahahha that ain't happening
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>>545942854
Is a penitent engine reasonable?
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>>545946729
NO, MA'AM. DO NOT BE REDEEMED!
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I have never played Shroudfield zealot in my life and I never will.
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>>545946307
looks hot
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>>545947196
>no ratlings

Dead on arrival
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>>545947493
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>>545947362
lol
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Every shitposter has been btfo for today so the general is silent
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it's going to be ganger and you're going to have to pretend that's a good thing lol
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>>545948384
I think it's called "going to bed"
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>>545948483
Pretend? It WILL be a good thing and doomers will get destroyed again
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BARRELKILL THE SLAVNIG
VOTEKICK THE CHINK
SHUN THE TRANNER
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>>545948549
It's called getting put in a fucking grave where all shitposting scum belong
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>>545946483
Two unreliable sources dont make a reliable one, my friend
This is where you're supposed to use your own critical thinking skills and conclude it's literally just a poxhound with some different animations, sounds, model but AI wise the work was mostly already done
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>>545948804
LAUGH AT THE BURGER
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>>545947407
I never played it until the most recent zealot patch and it's actually really funny to just delete bosses with the thunder hammer but then you feel useless the other 90% of the match
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>>545948591
>he's already pretending
lol
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>>545948984
>i made it the fuck up
Thanks for admitting it, i guess?
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>>545949259
I am 100% serious
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>>545949562
LOL!
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>>545949562
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>>545946674
link it pls
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>>545949361
Cool and cute
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>>545950306
She looks like she fantasizes about being dominated by Sisters.
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>>545949773
>>545949793
I will have the last laugh
*shakes my clenched paw*
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>>545950306
Why is there silly string all over the baton
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>>545950432
SHE???
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>>545950639
She just cracked some clown's skull
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>>545950730
Misgendering is against the Lex, Citizen.
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>>545950889
Don't think you considered how gay that would sound
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>>545950889
Well I'm sorry officer white lady, maybe you can arrest me and teach me more of yoru sex... ahaha I mean sex sorry saar u bootiful hehe
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The arbites would be way more fun if the crusher (weapon) wasn't so mediocre against the crusher (enemy type)
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>>545951091
can't you make a forum for brown people
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>>545951721
But he's already on 4chan.
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>>545951824
kek
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>>545951721
Sadly we would need a firewall for that to feasibly make a difference
>>545949793
Dangerous post I hope this isn’t who I think it is
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It should be 2 more sleepypoos until ganger announcement
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>>545944115
I do not remember fatshark saying that about sharing dockets, plasteel etc, no.
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i called someone a shitty nigger in kf3 and got banned from voip. worth it, i'm not missing anything.
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>>545947196
That kind of game is probably at least a decade off I’m afraid
>>545942854
Like the others said it really depends on how far along in mutation they are. If it’s an outright mutant, trying to merge technology with it anyway is usually grounds for being branded a Heretek so it’s not really done.
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>>545952952
They said that about having all the cosmetics instead of a rotating shop.
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Thanks, commissar Dukane :)
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>>545953190
She sounds like a bug btw
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>>545941761
The dog is enhanced by the power of its steel limbs that lets it launch itself at Mach 1 too albeit
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T-thanks, commissar Dukane...
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>>545923216
Not true, only SMs have to take a vow of celibacy.
>>545923425
I wish that was true.
>>545925245
>>545925759
They don’t get any hormonal treatments, messing with the testicles/genitalia of an all male fighting force who needs their testosterone in working order for maximum efficiency would be counter productive, they just undergo intense psycho jndotrcinatiln that completely kills their interest in sex, we know this because even the Grey Knights have been remarked in the past to be hung.
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Arbites feels insanely easy compared to other classes. Is that just because it's my calling or is it just way easier to play
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>>545937842
lol. Maybe 20 years ago that was the case. Now a lot of them are barely scraping by it seems.
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>>545953712
It's a paid class, guess
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>>545953784
So its actual pay to win? Bro
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>>545953826
Not necessarily, zealot is similarly braindead
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The only classes they're actually difficult to play are psyker and, ironically, ogryn
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Another day slowly coming to an end. New class soon anons! Eldar will be playable in December!
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>>545943469
>>545943536
>>545943739
>>545943834
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>>545937442
True but I would say they’ve been bold since before that even
>>545937447
Wasn’t it Ghosts who did that though >>545936957
Grim…
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>>545954047
>difficult to play
>psyker
roflcopter
just point the flame staff roughly into the direction of the enemy
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>>545935413
Hot. This is the kind of outfit/fashion/character models we should have…
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>>545954501
Its difficult to maximize its potential
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>>545953707
>SMs take a vow of celibacy
No they don't.
>SM aspirants hormones are not fucked with
Okay so explain the following
>Biscopea
>Phase 3: This small, circular organ is inserted into the chest cavity and releases hormones that vastly increase muscle growth throughout the marine's body. It also serves to form the hormonal basis for many of the later implants.
People IRL stop producing testoterone naturally from TRT injections. What do you think happens to a pre-teen's hormonal picture when you pump them with so much hormones they grow into an 8ft tall monstrosity?
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>>545954591
>spray and go hit something for malefic momentum
>stuff just dies in a chain reaction
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>>545932118
>>545931742
Damn I really didn’t recognize her with her tits covered up kek
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>>545929464
sure you will raj just like you did for all the other releases lol
>>545926963
cute sexy mio wife
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>>545954908
>just like you did for all the other releases lol
I did, though. Most recently Helldivers 2.
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>>545926649
>even their most basic weaponry breaks you down on a molecular level with a single shot
No shit. Being that broken kind of does that. Still cool as shit to watch happen though.
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>>545933440
>>545934024
>>545934456
>>545934536
>>545934918
>>545935434
>>545935856
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>>545937182
SoBcux deserve to lose for this screw up alone honestly jeeeeej
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>>545931631
>>545928886
they both need each other to campaign effectively
>>545930516
spoken like someone who’s never made a sizable fire of any kind before
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>>545929251
>>545929515
>>545929748
>>545929979
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>>545930329
get a room please the sexual tension was palpable here
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>>545939813
We need Darktide but everyone is a cute anime character and they all speak in Japanese about praising the emperor I think that would be really cool :)
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>>545955348
I personally like SoBs. I just don't see the point of adding them to Darktide, given an SoB is a zealot both conceptually and mechanically.
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>>545942001
Not at all. The foot soldier is still a valid target, even if not the main one.
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>>545944907
There are plenty of CSM in general who actively regret and lament ever choosing Chaos but there’s not much they can do now besides keep it pushing and taking it out on anyone they come across.
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>>545945260
In fairness there’s yet to be an actual good marine FPS game so he kind of has a point.
>>545946307
Never happening thankfully they need their own game too,
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>>545956010
except she would have power armor and wield heavy flamer, melta, multimelta, a bolter that actually fired as if it were being wielded by someone who could wield it, heavy bolter, and an eviscerator that is the actual proper length instead of being a toy joke
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>>545946307
We have a Imperial Assassin game its called Cruelty Squad.
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>>545956562
>except she would 'not fit in at all and would be grossly much stronger than everyone else'
hmm true, good point...
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>>545956562
Do you genuinely think it's fitting to have a class with power armor in darktide?
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>>545956918
this is a game where the highest performing weapon is a sharp piece of metal from before the industrial revolution
it competes with weapons that are enveloped in energy fields designed to cut through any armor
if you think certain fancy toys in this universe can't be reigned in to fit in this setting, I just need you to know you're already arguing from a lost position

>>545957057
there's an ogryn whose strength is in excess of an SoB suit, so yeah
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I am once again requesting advice, anons. I mostly play Havocs and am doing a Piety build. I am wondering if there are clear winners for HEviscerator blessings. I keep changing between a mix of: momentum; rampage; savage sweep; wrath; and shred. Most weapons I am confident and comfortable with what I pick and quickly find out what I like on them. But on this I can't settle, despite really liking the weapon (my favourite melee pick for Zealot). I'm already wanting to swap out of momentum for rampage (which has basically always been a staple for me until recently).
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>>545956562
I hate to break it to you, but bolters used by SoBs are not Astartes bolters, but smaller boltguns, the kind the zealot and veterans use.
>>545957202
Yes, but ogryns don't wear armor. You wouldn't be feasibly able to slide around, jump, and dodge like your standard player character if you had power armor on.
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>>545956285
Officio Assassinorum's Creed
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>>545957395
you shouldn't need momentum ever. if you need momentum you should drop difficulties and practice until you can play without momentum
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>>545957395
Shred and rampage
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>>545957202
>spicy piece of metal much better than piece of metal
I know melee and gunplay are the core of this game, but for the love of the emperor, give me something interesting and not just another variety of guy with sword and gun.
You already have 3 of those, we need another caster or support or summoner.
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>>545957510
I mostly agree, I just swapped to that to firstly try it (I don't care for it, it was just my latest try), and secondly a friend loosely suggested it.
>>545957575
This is what felt best to me, too. Thanks.
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>>545957441
>bolters used by SoBs are not Astartes bolters
but she'd be in power armor, so could naturally wield it better than standard humans who are obviously too weak to wield it as was intended

>>545957441
>You wouldn't be feasibly able to slide around, jump, and dodge like your standard player character if you had power armor on.
You don't seem to understand how power armor works. Do you also think space marines are slow, lumbering tanks? They're written as if they were superhuman speedsters.
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>>545957657
>standard humans who are obviously too weak to wield
I thought there is a dozen different patterns of bolters and the space marine ones are way bigger than the human version?
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>>545957657
>but she'd be in power armor, so could naturally wield it better than standard humans who are obviously too weak to wield it as was intended
Canon says SoBs use the smaller boltgun.

>You wouldn't be feasibly able to slide around, jump, and dodge like your standard player character if you had power armor on.
I don't thin YOU understand how 40k power armor works. Astartes can do that because they have the black carapace which allows them to literally interact with the power armor as if it was their second skin. To everybody else, it's slow and cumbersome even after years of training to use it, let alone being able to retain manual dexterity you have without armor on.
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If I host will you guys join me?
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If it wasn't 4AM here maybe I would
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>>545957974
>Canon says SoBs use the smaller boltgun.
You clearly aren't understanding
>To everybody else, it's slow and cumbersome even after years of training to use it, let alone being able to retain manual dexterity you have without armor on.
Cite an example of sisters of battle being slower than a standard human out of armor.
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>>545958364
>You clearly aren't understanding
No, I'm not because I can't possibly know what you mean. Unless you're implying an SoB should treat the existing boltgun as a less cumbersome weapon.

>Cite an example of sisters of battle being slower than a standard human out of armor.
>Whilst power armour is most commonly associated with the Space Marines of the Adeptus Astartes, the Sisters of Battle and many Inquisitors also use powered armour of one sort or another.
>Typically, however, these armours may not contain the same strength-enhancing properties or life-support functions of Space Marine power armour, nor do they always provide the same level of protection or mobility.
>https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Armour
Would me kidnapping a BL writer and filming them confirm this at gunpoint be enough for you?
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>he quoted a wiki which has no source
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>>545958893
Non sourced wikis trump headcanon
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>>545955202
There hasn’t been HD shitposting here in months though
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>>545954749
>No they don't.
They do.
You know that not all aspirants/marines start out as children yes? They can be adults too. In fact they usually are afaik. Regardless none of this proves anything.
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>>545959268
>until one of you has a melty and starts making a split general for me
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>>545958248
nah the game was fun for a few hours but it’s way too janky I still go back and watch the trailers every now and then though
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>>545957202
>there's an ogryn whose strength is in excess of an SoB suit
It’s a nerfed Ogryn albeit but sure.
>>545957823
There are. Even if you survive the recoil they wouldn’t make for very ergonomic weapons just because of how ill fitting they would be.
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>>545959503
I'm sorry anon but that is just headcanon. 30 year old books written by an outsider gig writers don't count.
>>545959492
TT stats are an abstraction of lore.
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>>545957612
this is why i say we need to just go off the rails >>545947196
the factions are unique, their weaponry is unique, the lore and in-universe mechanics surrounding them are unique - humans are NOT unique
Imperium of Man's entire identity is disposable guys with different guns, so trying to pick out different flavors of 'guy' whilst presenting them as something special is never going to work

it's fun seeing people cosplay SoB in the game though, so i hope we get an actual class for it, maybe they'll come up with fun mechanics idk
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>>545956010
I agree with Zealot being close but then again I could also think of a dozen new blitzes, auras, abilities, keystones, weapons and shit for every class, but it's be hell to balance.
A new class which conceptually overlaps but provides new stuff is the best way to approach it. SoB could be a Zealot but focused more on ranged weapons and have some new miracle bullshit that isn't just waving a shiny I in the air.
>but Zealot already has Flamer and Eviscerator as unique!!!
Sororitas Flamer. Sororitas Eviscerator. Happened with Arbites shotgun.
Incidentally I think the fact Melta gun was withheld from release is my biggest piece of circumstantial copium that SoB might actually come at some point.
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>>545959856
There’s nothing headcanon about it we’ve seen it numerous times in novels, comics, etc.
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>>545959492
>Leadership 7
sissies of battle lmao
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>>545961434
I'm sorry Anon, but until you provide me with one of these numerious examples, we can only argue about something that as far as I know only exists in your head, and even if it doesn't probably isn't as you remember it being.
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>>545943536
I laughed at this comment. out loud. lol for short
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>>545959856
until you cite a novel passage that says
>but the sister of battle was too slow in her armor for the person out of armor
you're full of shit
it's literally just "b-but space marines power armor is betterer...because...it is!" babble
every depiction of sororitas shows them moving quick and agile
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>>545957715
What purpose do the nipple spikes serve
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>>545962097
>n-nooo you need to provide proof that what I assert without proof isn't true
Fuck off.
>it's literally just "b-but space marines power armor is betterer...because...it is!" babble
Read about black carapaces you fucking tourist.
>every depiction of sororitas shows them moving quick and agile
I never said SoBs were slow and cumbersome either, I'm just saying that an SoB doing the same acrobatics other rejects do while wearing power armor is bullshit.
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>>545962167
He was so insistent on drawing front ass that he screwed up the thigh proportions
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>>545962395
>slaanesh heretic
I'm pretty sure achieving screwed up thigh proportions is the entire point of slaanesh worship for some.
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>>545962364
Some dumb chaos worship of a lesser being, don't know how true this is because the minor deities names are anagrams of the writers names
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where can I find the current meta builds? I about to try auric maelstrom and havoc for the first time
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>>545962369
NTA but
>SoB doing the same acrobatics other rejects do while wearing power armor is bullshit.
Yet Ogryns are not? There's so much bullshit in the game already this is a very weird hill to die on.
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>y-you secondary t-tourist!
>said anon, quoting a wiki, unable to provide a primary source for his beliefs about things intrinsic to the setting
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>>545963057
tanner lindberg
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>>545963057
Everyone except tranner troonberg
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>>545963057
Tanner Lindenberger
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>>545963057
Gameslantern link in the OP for what people think is good
Schizo 4chan posts that devolve into 4 hours of shitflinging for what is actually good
>>545963131
Tanner Lindberg if you want to LARP as Wimp Lo
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>>545963223
Tanner has the advantage that he explains in autistic detail why he things stuff is good.
Even if you disagree, there is probably something to learn for beginners.
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>>545963223
Gameslantern is full of complete retards
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>>545963095
>googling basic terms like black carapace is too hard
I'm not beholden to hand a scientific dissertation to somebody using headcanon as a source of arguments.Getting a link at all is more than you deserve and a gesture of immense goodwill on my end.
>>545963060
It's not the most stable of hills but an ogryn is not wearing a set of ceramite plates on him.
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>>545963451
Completely agreed. Hence why what people THINK is good.
>>545963412
Tranner is a con artist. He displays staggering confidence when describing things he is completely clueless of, or blatantly lying about, constantly. He's also not even a good player.
If you want some normie jewtuber faggot, Reginald at least makes an effort to collect data and provide proof while all the other jewtubers just yap with way too much confidence, but I don't follow his jewtube so I don't even know if he does build guides. I just remember seeing spreadsheets and thinking they were neat.
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>>545963223
High rated builds on gameslantern are fucking dogshit
And if you ignore ranking there's pretty much every buikd in existence out there so hos do you plan to find them?
As long as it's something braindead like ogryn you can ask here, and if it's something like psyker you will get retsrded takes that rending and brittleness is bad and quelling limbo is good, so you better think for yourself.
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>>545963583
>googling
thank you for admitting that is where your knowledge of the setting actually comes from
the people who consider themselves primaries get it from the actual novels and official works, just in case you were wondering, so please avoid using the phrase "secondary" in the future, as that includes you
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>>545963897
I never used the term secondary you fucking literal delusional schizophrenic.
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>>545963897
>get it from the actual novels
careful, you'll trigger the "codex only" autist
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>>545963412
The problem is that he only gives lengthy explanations for something that others disagree with, and others disagree because he's wrong.
So his explanations don't really help.
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>>545964030
you said tourist, same thing, I don't give a fuck
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>>545962684
I see.
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>>545964185
>y-yeah I'm hallucinating it's no biggie
It's sad when I'm trying to argue 40k lore with a headcanonbabby, even worse when I find out their entire perception of the world is literally headcanon.
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>>545963897
you're a secondary unless you actually play the tabletop game
it's not a matter of what you consider yourself
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>>545963583
There are a couple of Bullgryn sets. It's not the same as full body armor but then again Sororitas have the advantage of it being power armor. Just give Sororitas fat dodges and low stamina in exchange for damage reduction if you really want to emphasize the armor.
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>>545963859
That was one anon and he got dunked on by everyone.
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>>545964317
your argument stems from a single passage written by some random internet literally who with literally zero other sources
you're not arguing lore, you decided to chime in with some info you got off google and were subsequently called out on it for being a retard
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>>545964413
>fat dodges and low stamina in exchange for damage reduction
Into the trash it goes.
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>>545964556
Not if it kills everything on the screen before it can even get into dodge range.
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>>545963663
>zero examples
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>>545964554
It's still infinitesimally more effort than you put in to source claims in this argument. Why would I put so much effort when you're going to dispute lore facts that are common knowledge? Are you going to tell me the black carapace is not a thing just because it's mentioned in a wiki?
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>>545964810
I am very sincerely sorry, but I must ask compassion of you. Do you really expect me to listen to that insufferable faggot's ear-rapingly shrill voice, and give his videos views and viewer retention, just to provide proof? I know we're on 4chan but you're going too far.
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>>545964865
>it's common knowledge that sororitas are encumbered by their power armor
find literally one other person who agrees with you, anyone
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>>545964945
concession accepted!
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>>545953290
I fucking hate her voice. Her VA tries way too hard to sound like an intimidating military commander but instead she sounds like she's trying to hold back a shit
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>>545965001
Holy shit, that's the current argument? What a retard lmao.
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>>545965001
Find me one person who says Sisters of Battles are as agile in their power armor as Astartes are.
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>>545965085
Sounds like a non-Slav trying to do a Slav accent.
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>>545965160
That's not the argument. It never was. You said that it made no sense how a sister would be sliding, sprinting, and vaulting around like the rejects.
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Oh hey, the goalpost shifted. >>545965160
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>>545965229
Yes. Because only an astartes does not lose out on agility when wearing power armor.
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>>545965165
She's from scandinavia and does a scandinavian accent, though.
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>>545965324
No, it's because space marines are super humans.
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I should've stopped responding to him back when he didn't understand why power armor would let you wield a bolter better than a normal human.
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wtf how did the thread move so fast today? Looks like people were baited into thinking it was sororitas?
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>>545965479
And which, pray tell, element of their super humanity allows them to use their power armor as a second skin? Hint: Sororitas don't have it and it's not a penis.
>>545965528
Sorry I got confused when you implied Sororitas use the Astartes bolter
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>>545965674
>implied Sororitas use the Astartes bolter
He didn't.
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>>545965674
I never implied they used the space marine bolter.
>a bolter that actually fired as if it were being wielded by someone who could wield it
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>>545965528
You do know the bolters we use in the game aren't space marine bolters, right?
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just make the next one, this is too stupid
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what are you retarded niggers even talking about
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>>545965382
Is Scandinavia Slavic?
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>>545966254
anon says a sister of battle can't be in the game because she can't dodge slide, armor too heavy ;(
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>>545965528
Before that. Look at the main guy crying about SoB, they're so aggressive and irrational.
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>>545962395
>>545962538
Both are true
>>545962684
What are you talking about
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>>545966254
Making battlesissies cry for fun
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>>545966293
Finns are, they heavily race mixed with Laplanders.
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>>545966254
People got baited by a trailer for a streaming service into thinking Sissies of Battle were coming to darktide and the thread devolved into arguing about whether or not they belong in the game (they don't).
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>>545966518
They are not scandinavian
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I dont understand, do tiny brained niggers actually think warhammer+ show trailer is darktide trailer for the new class?
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>>545965382
/coopg/ burgers seriously need to stop talking when they talk about accents. It's a slav accent, the fakest slav accent. She sounds like a Red Alert unit for fuck's sake. How can you be confused by it?
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>>545966021
omg make the thread already
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>>545966439
>Ans'l, Mo'rcck, and Phraz-Etar are minor Chaos deities. Chaos Space Marines were rumoured to praise them by putting spikes on their power armour.[2] Their names are puns on the last names of Bryan Ansell, Michael Moorcock, and Frank Frazetta.
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>>545966518
1. Finland is not in scandinavia.
2. Finland is not slavic.
>race mixing
You are a mutt.
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>>545966579
they do belong actually. They're the faction that actually makes the most sense out of anyone to be there.
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>>545966771
At best 2nd place after the mechautismus. That morbian steel won't harvest itself.
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>>545966771
No, actually, they are busy like everyone else. They also powercreep the fuck out of the game and are leagues above arbites who aren't even canonically that strong. Just a very particular kind of asshole.
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>>545966924
They would be as powerful as fatshark want them to be.
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>>545966924
>They also powercreep the fuck out of the game
Ogryn and Psyker you dumbass are both stronger than a single typical battle sister. And a Tempestus Scion level Veteran which Vet in Darktide is, is as deadly as a single typical Sister of Battle. And also a Ministorum Crusader which the Zealot is equivalent too is stronger than a typical Sister of Battle.
So kindly shut the FUCK up.
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>>545966668
And most importantly, it's a separate language family and sounds like neither.
There is even an obvious Scandi (Danish) accent in the game already.
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>>545961647
Here you go. A Space Marine recruiting a grown adult. Not sure why this was so difficult to believe. It’s not like there’s anything stating only kids can become marines.
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>>545963412
It doesnt matter how well it explains itself, the problem is that the basis of their explanation is routinely and verifiably wrong, but it keeps convincing itself in its head that the information it just made up is true
Like shit, I could make one helluva argument if I could just make up facts to prove it too
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>>545966518
Laplanders are white though?
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>>545967091
Keep coping.
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>>545964061
That’s a guy…? Or is it the table top stats one
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>>545961647
Luther of the Dark Angels was an adult
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>>545967104
This comic is stupid I hate black templars.
>not like there's anything stating only kids can become marines
Yes adults can become marines but its a lot more dangerous.Plus marines prefer to recruit kids cus its easier to do the surgeries and they're easier to indoctrinate.
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>>545967317
>Yes adults can become marines
They aren't Legion Astartes, just massively gene-bulked humans
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>>545966924
Arbites are very capable on average. I don’t know if I’d put them on par with a Sister but they’re certainly noteworthy when their day jobs include having to take on gangers wielding mechs.
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>>545967250
Nah but you better start moping
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>>545967440
About what? I'm buying the class no matter what it is. It would just be a damn shame if it was just Zealot 1.5
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>>545967431
they are astartes I hate you
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>>545966654
Huh. Didn’t know that. I don’t think they wrote for 40k though but the moorcock one makes sense regardless.
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>>545967435
Taking on nobles must be a nightmare. Imagine the sheer variety of bullshit they can have stashed away.
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>>545967583
I never loved you, the marriage is off.
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>>545967296
And Phaeron. But they are hardly legitimate space marines. They are just heavily augmented to be around the level of a real marine.
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MAKE THE NEW THREAD ALREADY!!!!
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>>545967317
>but its a lot more dangerous
Source?
>prefer
Sure, but that’s different from not being able to do anything else. I think even Titus from SM was an adult when he became one.
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>>545967317
>>545967317
>>545967296
IIRC the couple exceptional adult humans who were made into Marines during Horus Heresy like Luther, Amon, Erebus, Kor Phaeron were hinted at being "less" than an average Space Marine and Leman Russ adult warriors had huge death rates when they tried.
I'd say it is possible but for all intents and purposes it might be impossible for most, especially without Great Crusade era expertise.
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>>545967925
The Secret Level animation thing shows Titus being recruited as a kid thougheverbeit.
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holy shit can someone just make the thread already whats the hold up
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I could kill an astartes
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>this thread
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fine fuck you lazy assholes I'm making the thread
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MOVE! NOW!!!!!!
>>545968675
>>545968675
>>545968675
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>>545968223
I haven’t seen that so I’ll take your word for it I just thought I remembered him being taken in as an adult
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>>545966771
No, those would be gangers unironically, which I’m not a fan of but it’s still true.
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>>545906328
I miss these memes. Such a great year that was
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>>545910220
this. same reason ogryns don’t just one shot everything they get close to by default.
>>545911819
never. what you’re looking for are sorcerers.
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>>545965631
Shitposters returning in droves and starting incessant arguments for hundreds of posts. It’ll get worse.
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>>545968069
Ehh, this guy >>545967104 didn’t have anything wrong with him and I don’t think it’s mentioned anywhere that he really struggled, so it probably varies from chapter to chapter as well.
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>>545917975
trvke
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>>545915951
More true than most realize >>545926750
God I wish
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>>545944074
>>545943353
>>545943405
>>545940173
>>545944074
good funny posts
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>>545956562
All of this could just be given to zealot and the power armor would just be a premium slop cosmetic.



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