The nightmare is ongoing... >>545965148>"Forbidden Catalyst" Update on 11/12https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkkV_Cb7h2shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYR6GAxNBHYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxVII71swo◤Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the First Update◢: https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11209203>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming BannerHaru - Striker - Justice - Until 11/12Yuki - Striker - Order - From 11/12>Current Events/Upcoming ContentA Flickering Gleam on a Rusted Anchor - Until 11/12>Basic Guides and Introductionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0CaRtTTpQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFkvOXO2Jg>Deck building simulatorhttps://czndecks.com/>PC Client (Stove)https://www.onstove.com/en/download>Reroll guidehttps://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640>Reroll tipsReroll Beginner Banner for desired character, Standard banner to guarantee two 5 star start, or reroll for HaruYou have enough rolls to finish beginner banner and one 10 roll on limited banner (You can still luck yourself two 5 stars through beginner banner)>Cards aren't savingCards saving scales to chaos difficulty and if Deep trauma mode is on (purple icon on top right of chaos team formation)>Apology Stream Summaryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvkE1KHHwFg&thttps://pastebin.com/U2Cg4hDC
News doko?Patch when?Maintenance?
My Rei of Light!
Middle or right?
>IKE RAITONING DINGO>IKE RAITONING DINGO>IKE RAITONING DINGO>IKE RAITONING DINGO>IKE RAITONING DINGO
You really gonna let this fat fuck drain you for all you have?
I am going to rooooooll
>>545989115Is he okay
>>545989163Of course.MATING PRESS ALL DAY
>>545989115Nice.
Is this the only way to beat weekly Judas?I still don't understand why and how he summon that God hand that deal 700 damage.
>>545989463I just Agonyspam him to win.
>>545989463he's easy as fuck what problem are you having
>>545989115>5th chaos in a row>exhaust rose doesn't fucking appearI fucking hate epiphany system, when can we reroll this shit. Maybe new codex upgrades have this feature?
why does neutral cards ALWAYS gets the epiphany upgrades manWHY
>>545989463When that icon with halo reaches 5 stacks (1 per each turn) he drops that fist
>>545989463I just rape him with tressa daggers and hugo lingo
>>545989463Huh? I just spam him to death with Mei Lin and Selena.
Rei of LightRei of Hope
>>545989463Any Tressa comp wrecks him easy. 10 lightning dingos to his face and he's done.
>>545989463I just put it on auto, don't even know what he does.
What characters use the line of justice memory fragment set?
Can Manga actually make good shields on her own? I'm getting a little tired of everyone schizoing out because I just HP tank then heal damage
>>545989463>all these card spammers when they get to stages 8+ and he god hands for 900 damagegood luck
>>545989463>using veronica instead of beryl for judas
>>545989463if you're having too much trouble, you can farm a specific deck for him
>>545989163>new chaos world will revolve around AoE to shill her>tfw no kayron or any other AoE charactersI really have to build an overwhelm deck asap...
>>545989463My man I beat this fucker like a dog using goddamn Luke. Just punch the bastard, Mika takes care of the rest.
>>545989772>>all these card spammers when they get to stages 8+ and he god hands for 900 damageI will just have 400 shield, no problem
>>545989142Holy SOVL
https://streamable.com/rzp9z4haru hits pretty hard
>>545989772He can only punch you once, the key is to make it so you kill him harder than he kills you.Alternatively use Revelations of Futility on Tressa or Luke a d laugh as he does fuck all to your shields.
>>545989914>70% damage ramp per god hand>double turns in phase 2>10k hpAdmittedly revelations of futility is pretty good, but I'd be interested in seeing tressa decks try to dps race him
>>545989771Could level up her potentials and defense gear
>had ice cream for breakfastMy life is fucked up...
Wait, Gangrene doesn't reduce max HP but reduces HP BY x% of max HP? Oh for fuck's sake...
>>545990014>not having ice cream for dinneryou're just a baby
>>545990014Shut the fuck up Haru and stop divine epiphanying things that aren't +1 ap on anchor point
>>545990067Yeah, once you realize that it's by far the best mod to pick since it's literally free Stress healing.
For combo Haru do you want more Pointers or more Anchor Shots?
>>545990003A full DPS Tressa would probably use this instead of revelations, but you’d become very glass cannon with no shield at all
Mythic card epiphanies when. A lot of them are fucking useless without any
>>545990260think for yourself
>>545989732Bullshit post your auto clear on difficulty 7 or above next week
>>545990374I want you to instead.
Post difficulty 9/10 Judas clears.
is Haru bad for basin since it's a dps race and she takes some time to ramp up her anchor shots?
>>545989772I beat stage 8 (ran out of permit for 9 and 10) with Hugo Tressa.Just kill him in one turn, it's not hard. 10 Lightning Dingos to his face and he's dead.
>>545990453>>545989960
>>545989772this faggot was a fucking mistake
>>545990427>I want youu-uhm....
I did it!Can I still farm lvl 9 for the 3 gold gear, or does level 10 give anything extra?
W-we still have one day left to clear dimensional twilight, r-right b-bros?
>>545990696Yes you can still farm 9. 10 also gives 3.
>>545990746I got to 27 and called it good enough, I'm not bending over backwards to get a fraction of a roll.
Should I do it or should I save it for the next banner? I have Haru but I'm honestly just dumping rolls to get a 5* partner
What's the best team for Yuki? Nia and Amir?
stuffing all this cake inside Yuki's ass once she releases
Brow lmao renoa is literally walmart kayron it's like if kayron was gojo and renoa the tree curse lmao
>>545990858So is that a yes or a no
>>545990905I'm hoarding all my cakes until I get this shit
anyanon still have the yuki pre-farm list some anon typed up yesterday
>>545990937What. They are not even similar
I prefarmed a bunch of goated neutral cards, how do I give them to Yuki when she drops?
>>545991009Combatant 1-60:4.3 million credits70 gold combatant promotion mats365 gold combatant XP400 gold potential mats4 feathers6 eyesPartner 1-60:700,000 credits50 gold partner mats65 gold partner XPMemory Fragments:1 mil credits660 white stone60 blue stone600 traces of memory (only if BiS arrives same patch)
>>545990960you still have 31 hours yes
>>545990260Neither
>>545990696Regardless of how far you go in d10 levels, you'll always get 3 gold pieces. Save data cap also doesn't scale up. It's meaningless, basically, other than the challenge.
>>545991160>Save data cap also doesn't scale upAny evidence of this?
>>545990937Bro that's rude
>>545991204I have no idea why the chibi version of that picture cracks me up every time
>>545991136you have to find the hidden wood cabin and talk to the suspicious sagehe'll even let you check her IVs
>>545991160not meaningless farm those chaos orbs for free merges go infinite
>>545990874The next partner looks like a decent alternative for Haru's partner. So you could save and move them around as needed. If you use anchor pointer spam on Haru that is, which most do.
>>545991151Thanks!! All this grinding I've been doing won't be for nothing
>>545991193Well, I went to 100+ and the average TB still stays around 50k, with occasional 60-70k when I stuff too many gear bags up Mika's fat ass, and she gets all basics added back in and epiphanies removed.
>>545990937BASED
>>545989115>What are going to do? Shoot me?
>>545991289It's actually better than Haru's partner. Literally powercrept in one banner.
>>545991325I feel like it probably still goes up just slowly, I assume it's some sort of formula where level is a variable but not linear scaling.
>>545991289This looks like it works for Rin too, guess I'll wait instead>>545991183Yeah I kinda realized halfway into the pity but might as well now
>>545990937I'm 100% sure I've seen a meme picture of Gojo going "Nah I'd win" with Renoa's locked in mental breakdown and then Gojo dead with Renoa dying CG
>>545991398>BetterIdk those numbers on Asteria are pretty crazy, especially with that ego boost.
RELEASE YUKI
>>545991153where damage
>>545991398>>545991289Nope, doesn't do anything
>>545989463Depends on his diff level, lv 8 and above he's pretty tough
>>545990937Can someone translate this to me?
>>5459912893 ep to activate inspo on 1 card is so funnythis shit is gonna get powercrept into oblivion
>>545991457
>>545989775wait what beryl card has piercing, am I missing some good cheese here?
THEY REMOVED MY GEARBAG FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKK
>>5459915083 ap to tutor a specific card is on rate
>>545991550Korean bros don't look at the hand gesture...
>>545991602Khalipe can get an epiph on rally to do it for free...
>>545991610kekit takes little to go from sexo to melty...
>>545991664anybody can do it for free by having an Attack! in their deck retardego skills have a different cost associated since you don't need to draw them.
>>545991405Even if it does, it doesn't matter much, since once you get past 95 or so, you're not really playing the game, but a gambling simulator of whether you'll get an unavoidable normal mob fight right before the boss or not. Some planets are better than others, of course, purple and red ones have the worst run enders where your input doesn't matter if the game decides to kill you.
I have no idea what to go for on Cassius. Rei I get wants to be a support unit and Renoa wants discard memes and bullet gen, but Cassius I'm still lost on.
>>545989772Heh... nothing personnel kid
>>545991398>35% always vs 25% when using anchor shotHow is Yuki partner better for Haru?
How much do neutral cards add to the save value? I wanna add Rally and Energy Barrier to Mei Lin's deck for more passion cards but I don't want the game to fuck up my deck too much. I finally got a halfway decent thing going on and I've been resetting for a day now.
>>545991893Nobody knows for certain, but the answer is a lot.
>>545991893we just don't know
>>545991893mei lin cannot take rally
>>545991759I've seen some people achieve success with Tressa and the 0 cost quest, but honestly I don't like him, you have joker, shuffle and all the other cards in his deck are dead cards
>>545991893a LOT. Especially epiphanied they are like 10k each
>>545990260Always more pointers since it activates the anchor shot combo by themselves
>>545991550
>>545991893We just don't know png, but also it's a bricked build anyways, take whatever you want.
>>545989960Post build pls harubro
>>545991836Nice anniversary unit leak bwo
Henlo bwowinyos, tomyowwow ouwr dyecks resyet? Or we kyeep fwor nyext seasyon?
>>545992029you should spoiler that shit anon I still have ptsd
>>545991969ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
>>54599206040 years old male wrote this.
>>545992032>>545992096
>Protos, is it really wise to keep sending your combatants into the trauma simulation machine that one of the nurses made day in and day out?
>>545992029Thanks for triggering my PTSD
>>545992060Why would they reset dummy
So I need a Justice dps and I am considering building Beryl.https://youtu.be/jGSs6dG1rSs?si=VUqe_FFskjluYMICCan someone explain to me how this build work ?
>>545991969how much for one night...
>>545992060we keep>>545992015
>>545991997>but also it's a bricked build anywaysIt's the best thing I managed to scrape together in a day's attempts. What's a good build then? Of course, I mean builds without Veronica or Selena because I have neither. I'm not going to be dealing 10k damage with that one Rising Dragon Spire epiphany that gives it more hits per passion card played.
>>545990874Wait what happened to your crystals?
>>545992206>we kyeepnyahooo!
>>545992173One of her cards can turn into an upgrade that gives her a free attack for every card she retain, if you have 3 of that upgrade and 4 retained card, she does 12 Free attacks at the end of the turnThen when you can go for the kill, you dump all your retain cards
I've got M2 Haru. Should I sink deeper and get her her partner as well?
>>545990874bwo...
Is it worth using standard rolls on the partner banner?
>>545992162Have another one for free.Nexto.
>>545991140>4.3 million creditssay sike right now
>>545992349No. Keep rolling on combatant.
>>545992361>kyou mo mori wa modified umbrella women standing next to her husband ne
>>545991140>600 traces of memorykek'd
>>545991140Now calculate how much energy do we need to farm all this. Then convert it to time
you get 100k a day in credits. its so over chat
>>545992234You don't really need Veronica or Selena for that build, just 3-4 copies of move unity. As long as your supports have enough draw, you can just cycle through them and otk most things.
>>545991721>anybody can do it for free by having an Attack!That isn't anybody then, RETARD
EN dub soon right?
>>545992361I'm so glad WB is so bad I could get out early this timecygames can't hurt me anymore
>>545992524Eh, the devs are being careful with their goodwill right now, we'll probably have a massive event shop, if SS first event shop is anything to go by.
>>545991836funny enough, this bullshit OP of a card in StS would be considered bad in czn because of the turn limit. lol
>>545992549What's WB?
>Start of run bonus changing Mel Lin's strikes into some shitty neutralsTime to drag her ass to save point and reset the run I guess
>>545992647worlds beyond
>>545992524It's a bonsai game!!!!!!!!!!!
>>545991893Mei Lin can't take rally and Barrier is shitty on her.
kill all nyaggers
Why does Renoa look fatter in all her pose besides her default one
>>545992723hmm... nyo
>>545992712>bonsaime trimming yuki's bush
>>545992723uuuuu...
>>545992549Same, I played a bit of Izudia and uninstalled.
>story chapter 4 and 5>le church is... le not bad?no wonder they are rewriting the story
>4 outbreakrenoabwos I'm funmaxxinghttps://streamable.com/wn8jdt
Please don't enshittify my Rei.
Ok Bros, in a team composed of Haru and Mika, who is the best third option? I tried to go with Khalipe but it wasn't as good as I expected...
gimme a haru teamis mika berry good? No cassius
>>545992991think for yourself
>>545992987Vero is another solid option
>>545992919kek...you little shit made me chuckle
>>545992936>more neutrals than her own cards>no basicsIt's so fucking over
>>545992936Bro... three gear bags is already enough to cap your save data, reorganize is even heavier.
>>545992936>4 gear boxLol
>>545992936you guys just have no fucking idea how to make decks it's crazy
Wheres the Beryl sloppas?! My dick needs her!
Somehow I maxed this Gremlin. Should I max her just to have a justice DPS considering no Haru.
>>545992987Veronica/Cassius/Beryl for card fishingOrlea/Magna/Owen/Amir(maybe?) for Vulnerability applicationThose are the first options that I'd think about
>>545992029Fuck you
>>545993062>>545993070>>545993072>>545993134It's actually not terrible.I can definitely use this with Kayron or Mei.
Why is everyone waiting for this slampig? Haru looks better than her
>>545992936FOUR gearbags plus TWO attacks plus ONE reorganize is already like 70k+ lelRemoving the basics too will prune this down to 40k and remove more than half of those, get ready
>>545993325>Removing the basics too will prune this down to 40kRemoving increases size though
>>545993325What's the math behind removing own cards
level 50 can't come soon enough
>>545993173I know it's unrelated to what you're asking, but I wonder if Beryl's E6 bonus apply to her Extra Attacks from her opening found upgrade
Place your bets, how much of this shit is going to the shadow realm?
>>545993518And I thought I was greedy.
>>545993443That's what I meant, I worded it poorly my badI meant>removing basics will increase it even more, making the deck get pruned even harder
>>545993518It'd be a miracle if kefox stays in at all, let alone with the epiphany.
>>545993518say goodbye to your kekfox and one div
>>545993310Odachi > anchorSlutty cheongsam > slutty schoolgirl uniformNo bra > bra
>>545993310I like sluts with big swords. I also like bondage, so her and Chizaru are must pull for me.
>>545993582>>545993634>>545993679My fucking rallies
>>545993704This anon gets it.
Rei found the drug stash...
I hate save datayou shouldn't have to decide between building to clear the world and building for save dataAll my mika save datas are bricked because I'm farming blue pot and need to pick up rally / the other card for mr extra attacksI really hope the save data overhaul turns it into a draft at the end of the run
>>545993750>Kept the kekfoxLucky bitch.
>>545993518About as much of it as mine yesterday.
>>545993750>I gib you one non-div kekfox and one water arrow>you gib me two rallies, all divs, one gear bag, one attack
>>545993826>DraftYou wouldn't be able to choose what to keep because otherwise you'll choose where to stop.
>>545993819>>545993852You guys just really love bricking your saves, huh.
>>545993956It'd be easier to not brick if we had any real idea of what the fuck goes on with the calcs beyond some vague guesses.
>>545993826>you shouldn't have to decide between building to clear the world and building for save dataYes, yes you should. That's the whole point...I understand it's frustrating sometimes but that's the whole point...
>>545994000Well, we at very least know for sure that neutral and monster cards are basically a ticket for getting basics back in and removing the epiphanies.
>>545993852oh you were begging for it with this
>>545994000That's fair, but vague guesses are already enough to easily assume>removing basics>adding neutrals>draw neutral>monster cards>epiphanies>divinities>copiesAll can increase your save data, some by a LOT, so adding everything of the above to one deck is like asking it to be gutted.I'm just no sure about equipment. I know they increase but not sure about the amount.
Final twilight 3 stars took me 200 tries with my F2P build, but I did itLegit took 10+ hoursThis fucking torch was the key to victory, auto-2 mark is too powerful
>>545994203congratz. post team please
0-cost normal attack btw.
>>545994000>if we had any real idea of what the fuck goes on with the calcs beyond some vague guesses.We do have a lot of information already, testing with the datamined values show there's three resource buckets that are separately allocated to base deck changes, card additions, and removal checked against save data budgets.
>>5459938523 mythics and 2 legends. lel
>>545992060Imagine all decks getting deleted each season
>>545994203You got less than a pull anon.
>>545994376Makes sense, but it's the first I've heard of that.
>>545994451he got 2 refreshes
>10 lightning dingohuh? i thought max stack is 5
Do my weeklies
>>545994572veronica, pierce his balls
I thought they already fixed this bug....rip 30/30 I guesshttps://litter.catbox.moe/ot54os8qz8ap26ukw.mp4
>>545994304Magna as vulnerability spam, frontloaded veronica fishing for sir kowalski and beryl just praying for RNG because her build was very basicGayron hard-carrying the second team
You fucks cheated your decks
>>545994440They should just delete them every week honestly.
how do I make Veronica feel good? it just seems to me that my Beryl is always doing more damage for some reason
Newbie question here anons, does the equipment you get in the Chaos have a weight? Meaning can I get a better deck if I don't get any or does it not matter at all or can my cards get deleted because of it?
>>545994765oh nyooo people cheat in a single player game it's nyover...
>>545994681 (literal me)I'm dumb so here's fixed linkhttps://litter.catbox.moe/ot5os8qz8ap26ukw.mp4
>>545994806yescheating in singleplayer games is the equivalent to failing the shopping cart test
>>545994765>latelet>rerollerdeserved
>>545994712bro please decorate your decks...
>>545994712What did you feed to that Rei to get 75k?
>>545993310If Haru didn't wear a bra I'd agree
>>545994881Her deck is a fucking mess, honestly she was there as filler because I don't have anyone else, don't ask me why this is 75KI have a void tutor deck but somehow this worked better
which characters get the most out of dupes?
>>545994469Yeah, it was just never really made public because the rules established were mostly consistent with the lower floors of codex and additional "rules" were added as the total save data budget increased so the author scrapped everything. Basically every card and equipment has their assigned value and any overflow gets cut, removals are ramped up per card cut, rarity isn't consistent with data value some "rare" neutrals are worth 1800 data while others are worth 4000. Events such as "replace a common card with a rare neutral" will hit the budget for both events (1) removal of card (2) addition of card. Basic epiphanies (+1 morale, fortitude) are lower budget than good epiphanies (+1 ap, +1 draw) by about 30%, epiphanies on higher rarities cards are worth basically a negligible amount of data more than lower rarities. At this point he kinda gave up and is waiting for the devs to hold their end of the bargain.
Trying to limit saves is pointless. Just load the hell out of your saves and let the system cut it by 20-40%, at least you still have a chance to end up with a good deck.
>>545990296How do you get this thing?
>>545995102I will now build haru
>>545995153I got one from city of mist last boss drop
>>545994793Beryl better damn deal more damage because she does not have a sliver of utility Veronica has. That said if you wanna deal damage with Vero I rec you use Draw 2 Kowalski that gets Ballistas if you pull a Skill.
is it 10% hp or 10% of damage as hp or what
>>545995424It's 10% of defense. It heals around 5 HP per crit.
>>545995483jesus fucking piece of shit nevermind
>>545995398guilty pleasure is fucking cracked though
>>545995161myes>>545991458damage koko, might be able to break 20k after I farm her 35% crit damage for 1 cost card and double crit
>>545994793Reroll shop for Second MethodRoll one of the good ballista upgradesUse the pendant that fits your team best (if you have any 0AP draw skills, those are great with her)
>>545995037Orlea feels like half a character before E2, Luke gets amazing power ups every single dupe (if you want consistent HVAP from his E6 you also need his partner though). Beryl E6 is a huge upgrade for her. Veronica E2 and 4 make her a lot more reliable, letting you aim your Ballistas and adding a Ballista via ult.Supposedly Hugo's damage more than doubles at max dupes too but I wouldn't know. Khalipe E2 is amazing QoL.
>>545995575based whaleGOD carrying our server
Just hit level 50. I wonder if I should save my standard pulls and roll after Haru is added to the standard banner, or just go for it?
>>545995037Your favorites!
>>545990260pointers buff the anchors so pointers, but don't turn down anchor dupe after boss its still good.
>>545995681You don't need E2 Haru to play +1 hit combo, just retain anchor and dupe anchor lifts
>>545995398>beryl>no utilityrumao
>>545995037Rin with stance start of every turn pretty completely bypasses her mechanic
>>545995864Illiterate Anon. One amazing draw vs a deck of only Upgrades and Draws.
>>545995937if only we could get dupes of a card or something
>>545994793play her with meirin for free +25% damage because passion weakness on everything.
>>545995864Repose is worse than guilty pleasure but cost 0 repose is way better than any guilty pleasure epiphany.
>>545995970Shit man I was unaware only Beryl can dupe her cards...
>>545995754my favorite is owen
can somebody explain this buff I don't get it
>>545996058their dupes
>>545995991repose is NOT better than 0 mana draw 5 lolsidegrade at best
>>545996058all your units get a free dupe
>>545996058Your dupes.
>>545994681>>545994836Fucking robbed.
>>545996058They all behave as if you had an extra dupe.
Don't forget anon
>>545996154We get no compensation for this. Gooks were right after all.
>>545995754My favorite is Veronica! She is part of Black Spica and is a rabbit-mouse.
>dont want to farm chaos now knowing the first season is coming in 2 days
Haru is NOT that big
>>545996043then why the fuck was density ever the argument you chose ?
>>545996221I got to difficulty 8 and thats where I'm staying for a while
>>545995037Khalipe E6 would be speedrunning chaos runs with immediate silver veil procs at the start of every encounter.
>>545996221New chaos will be tuned for e2 Yuki with signature minimum, so you're not losing much. You won't make it far there anyways.
>>545996106Repose draws other combatant cards. You aren't making a deck without rapid fire/launchers but only veronica can dodge drawing her own basic attacks. It also doesn't have exhaust which already makes it pay off in any battle that's not a quick chaos regular battle.
>>545994836I can't believe they even failed implementing Hoyo endgame like this. At this point gooks are worse than chinks.
>>545996393I don't care about which cards I draw when I can draw my whole deck turn 1. I don't care that my draw card has exhaust when every fight is over in at BEST a deck and a half.
>>545992528Do you remove Flame Dragon's Sovereignty? It's not a bad card and I have e2 Mei Lin but it feels in the way of that build.
>>545990296Which is sad because I can even still face tank Basin 10 if I just kill them fast enough, not the other way around. They really need to break off from the hoyoslop end game design
>>545996289Because Vero still has more draws? And her upgrade potshots are guaranteed unlike Beryl which demands you get luck with Epiphanies and then dupe it. Beryl is one of my favorite characters but she definitely does not draw as well as Veronica. Her true strength is in obliterating assholes by comboing with Orlea IMO.
