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The nightmare is ongoing... >>545965148

>"Forbidden Catalyst" Update on 11/12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkkV_Cb7h2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYR6GAxNBHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxVII71swo
◤Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the First Update◢: https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11209203

>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming Banner
Haru - Striker - Justice - Until 11/12
Yuki - Striker - Order - From 11/12

>Current Events/Upcoming Content
A Flickering Gleam on a Rusted Anchor - Until 11/12

>Basic Guides and Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0CaRtTTpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFkvOXO2Jg

>Deck building simulator
https://czndecks.com/

>PC Client (Stove)
https://www.onstove.com/en/download

>Reroll guide
https://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640
>Reroll tips
Reroll Beginner Banner for desired character, Standard banner to guarantee two 5 star start, or reroll for Haru
You have enough rolls to finish beginner banner and one 10 roll on limited banner (You can still luck yourself two 5 stars through beginner banner)

>Cards aren't saving
Cards saving scales to chaos difficulty and if Deep trauma mode is on (purple icon on top right of chaos team formation)

>Apology Stream Summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvkE1KHHwFg&t
https://pastebin.com/U2Cg4hDC
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News doko?
Patch when?
Maintenance?
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My Rei of Light!
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Middle or right?
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>IKE RAITONING DINGO
>IKE RAITONING DINGO
>IKE RAITONING DINGO
>IKE RAITONING DINGO
>IKE RAITONING DINGO
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You really gonna let this fat fuck drain you for all you have?
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I am going to rooooooll
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>>545989115
Is he okay
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>>545989163
Of course.
MATING PRESS ALL DAY
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>>545989115
Nice.
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Is this the only way to beat weekly Judas?
I still don't understand why and how he summon that God hand that deal 700 damage.
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>>545989463
I just Agonyspam him to win.
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>>545989463
he's easy as fuck what problem are you having
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>>545989115
>5th chaos in a row
>exhaust rose doesn't fucking appear
I fucking hate epiphany system, when can we reroll this shit. Maybe new codex upgrades have this feature?
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why does neutral cards ALWAYS gets the epiphany upgrades man
WHY
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>>545989463
When that icon with halo reaches 5 stacks (1 per each turn) he drops that fist
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>>545989463
I just rape him with tressa daggers and hugo lingo
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>>545989463
Huh? I just spam him to death with Mei Lin and Selena.
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Rei of Light
Rei of Hope
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>>545989463
Any Tressa comp wrecks him easy. 10 lightning dingos to his face and he's done.
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>>545989463
I just put it on auto, don't even know what he does.
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What characters use the line of justice memory fragment set?
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Can Manga actually make good shields on her own? I'm getting a little tired of everyone schizoing out because I just HP tank then heal damage
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>>545989463
>all these card spammers when they get to stages 8+ and he god hands for 900 damage
good luck
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>>545989463
>using veronica instead of beryl for judas
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>>545989463
if you're having too much trouble, you can farm a specific deck for him
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>>545989163
>new chaos world will revolve around AoE to shill her
>tfw no kayron or any other AoE characters
I really have to build an overwhelm deck asap...
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>>545989463
My man I beat this fucker like a dog using goddamn Luke. Just punch the bastard, Mika takes care of the rest.
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>>545989772
>>all these card spammers when they get to stages 8+ and he god hands for 900 damage
I will just have 400 shield, no problem
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>>545989142
Holy SOVL
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https://streamable.com/rzp9z4
haru hits pretty hard
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>>545989772
He can only punch you once, the key is to make it so you kill him harder than he kills you.
Alternatively use Revelations of Futility on Tressa or Luke a d laugh as he does fuck all to your shields.
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>>545989914
>70% damage ramp per god hand
>double turns in phase 2
>10k hp
Admittedly revelations of futility is pretty good, but I'd be interested in seeing tressa decks try to dps race him
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>>545989771
Could level up her potentials and defense gear
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>had ice cream for breakfast
My life is fucked up...
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Wait, Gangrene doesn't reduce max HP but reduces HP BY x% of max HP? Oh for fuck's sake...
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>>545990014
>not having ice cream for dinner
you're just a baby
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>>545990014
Shut the fuck up Haru and stop divine epiphanying things that aren't +1 ap on anchor point
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>>545990067
Yeah, once you realize that it's by far the best mod to pick since it's literally free Stress healing.
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For combo Haru do you want more Pointers or more Anchor Shots?
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>>545990003
A full DPS Tressa would probably use this instead of revelations, but you’d become very glass cannon with no shield at all
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Mythic card epiphanies when. A lot of them are fucking useless without any
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>>545990260
think for yourself
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>>545989732
Bullshit post your auto clear on difficulty 7 or above next week
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>>545990374
I want you to instead.
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Post difficulty 9/10 Judas clears.
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is Haru bad for basin since it's a dps race and she takes some time to ramp up her anchor shots?
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>>545989772
I beat stage 8 (ran out of permit for 9 and 10) with Hugo Tressa.
Just kill him in one turn, it's not hard. 10 Lightning Dingos to his face and he's dead.
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>>545990453
>>545989960
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>>545989772
this faggot was a fucking mistake
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>>545990427
>I want you
u-uhm....
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I did it!

Can I still farm lvl 9 for the 3 gold gear, or does level 10 give anything extra?
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W-we still have one day left to clear dimensional twilight, r-right b-bros?
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>>545990696
Yes you can still farm 9. 10 also gives 3.
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>>545990746
I got to 27 and called it good enough, I'm not bending over backwards to get a fraction of a roll.
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Should I do it or should I save it for the next banner? I have Haru but I'm honestly just dumping rolls to get a 5* partner
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What's the best team for Yuki? Nia and Amir?
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stuffing all this cake inside Yuki's ass once she releases
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Brow lmao renoa is literally walmart kayron it's like if kayron was gojo and renoa the tree curse lmao
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>>545990858
So is that a yes or a no
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>>545990905
I'm hoarding all my cakes until I get this shit
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anyanon still have the yuki pre-farm list some anon typed up yesterday
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>>545990937
What. They are not even similar
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I prefarmed a bunch of goated neutral cards, how do I give them to Yuki when she drops?
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>>545991009
Combatant 1-60:
4.3 million credits
70 gold combatant promotion mats
365 gold combatant XP
400 gold potential mats
4 feathers
6 eyes

Partner 1-60:
700,000 credits
50 gold partner mats
65 gold partner XP

Memory Fragments:
1 mil credits
660 white stone
60 blue stone
600 traces of memory (only if BiS arrives same patch)
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>>545990960
you still have 31 hours yes
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>>545990260
Neither
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>>545990696
Regardless of how far you go in d10 levels, you'll always get 3 gold pieces. Save data cap also doesn't scale up. It's meaningless, basically, other than the challenge.
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>>545991160
>Save data cap also doesn't scale up
Any evidence of this?
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>>545990937
Bro that's rude
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>>545991204
I have no idea why the chibi version of that picture cracks me up every time
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>>545991136
you have to find the hidden wood cabin and talk to the suspicious sage
he'll even let you check her IVs
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>>545991160
not meaningless farm those chaos orbs for free merges go infinite
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>>545990874
The next partner looks like a decent alternative for Haru's partner. So you could save and move them around as needed. If you use anchor pointer spam on Haru that is, which most do.
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>>545991151
Thanks!! All this grinding I've been doing won't be for nothing
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>>545991193
Well, I went to 100+ and the average TB still stays around 50k, with occasional 60-70k when I stuff too many gear bags up Mika's fat ass, and she gets all basics added back in and epiphanies removed.
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>>545990937
BASED
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>>545989115
>What are going to do? Shoot me?
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>>545991289
It's actually better than Haru's partner. Literally powercrept in one banner.
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>>545991325
I feel like it probably still goes up just slowly, I assume it's some sort of formula where level is a variable but not linear scaling.
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>>545991289
This looks like it works for Rin too, guess I'll wait instead
>>545991183
Yeah I kinda realized halfway into the pity but might as well now
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>>545990937
I'm 100% sure I've seen a meme picture of Gojo going "Nah I'd win" with Renoa's locked in mental breakdown and then Gojo dead with Renoa dying CG
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>>545991398
>Better
Idk those numbers on Asteria are pretty crazy, especially with that ego boost.
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RELEASE YUKI
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>>545991153
where damage
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>>545991398
>>545991289
Nope, doesn't do anything
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>>545989463
Depends on his diff level, lv 8 and above he's pretty tough
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>>545990937
Can someone translate this to me?
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>>545991289
3 ep to activate inspo on 1 card is so funny
this shit is gonna get powercrept into oblivion
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>>545991457
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>>545989775
wait what beryl card has piercing, am I missing some good cheese here?
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THEY REMOVED MY GEARBAG FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKK
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>>545991508
3 ap to tutor a specific card is on rate
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>>545991550
Korean bros don't look at the hand gesture...
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>>545991602
Khalipe can get an epiph on rally to do it for free...
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>>545991610
kek
it takes little to go from sexo to melty...
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>>545991664
anybody can do it for free by having an Attack! in their deck retard
ego skills have a different cost associated since you don't need to draw them.
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>>545991405
Even if it does, it doesn't matter much, since once you get past 95 or so, you're not really playing the game, but a gambling simulator of whether you'll get an unavoidable normal mob fight right before the boss or not. Some planets are better than others, of course, purple and red ones have the worst run enders where your input doesn't matter if the game decides to kill you.
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I have no idea what to go for on Cassius. Rei I get wants to be a support unit and Renoa wants discard memes and bullet gen, but Cassius I'm still lost on.
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>>545989772
Heh... nothing personnel kid
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>>545991398
>35% always vs 25% when using anchor shot
How is Yuki partner better for Haru?
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How much do neutral cards add to the save value? I wanna add Rally and Energy Barrier to Mei Lin's deck for more passion cards but I don't want the game to fuck up my deck too much. I finally got a halfway decent thing going on and I've been resetting for a day now.
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>>545991893
Nobody knows for certain, but the answer is a lot.
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>>545991893
we just don't know
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>>545991893
mei lin cannot take rally
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>>545991759
I've seen some people achieve success with Tressa and the 0 cost quest, but honestly I don't like him, you have joker, shuffle and all the other cards in his deck are dead cards
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>>545991893
a LOT. Especially epiphanied they are like 10k each
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>>545990260
Always more pointers since it activates the anchor shot combo by themselves
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>>545991550
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>>545991893
We just don't know png, but also it's a bricked build anyways, take whatever you want.
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>>545989960
Post build pls harubro
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>>545991836
Nice anniversary unit leak bwo
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Henlo bwowinyos, tomyowwow ouwr dyecks resyet? Or we kyeep fwor nyext seasyon?
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>>545992029
you should spoiler that shit anon I still have ptsd
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>>545991969
ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
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>>545992060
40 years old male wrote this.
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>>545992032
>>545992096
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>Protos, is it really wise to keep sending your combatants into the trauma simulation machine that one of the nurses made day in and day out?
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>>545992029
Thanks for triggering my PTSD
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>>545992060
Why would they reset dummy
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So I need a Justice dps and I am considering building Beryl.

https://youtu.be/jGSs6dG1rSs?si=VUqe_FFskjluYMIC

Can someone explain to me how this build work ?
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>>545991969
how much for one night...
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>>545992060
we keep
>>545992015
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>>545991997
>but also it's a bricked build anyways
It's the best thing I managed to scrape together in a day's attempts. What's a good build then? Of course, I mean builds without Veronica or Selena because I have neither. I'm not going to be dealing 10k damage with that one Rising Dragon Spire epiphany that gives it more hits per passion card played.
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>>545990874
Wait what happened to your crystals?
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>>545992206
>we kyeep
nyahooo!
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>>545992173
One of her cards can turn into an upgrade that gives her a free attack for every card she retain, if you have 3 of that upgrade and 4 retained card, she does 12 Free attacks at the end of the turn
Then when you can go for the kill, you dump all your retain cards
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I've got M2 Haru. Should I sink deeper and get her her partner as well?
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>>545990874
bwo...
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Is it worth using standard rolls on the partner banner?
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>>545992162
Have another one for free.
Nexto.
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>>545991140
>4.3 million credits
say sike right now
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>>545992349
No. Keep rolling on combatant.
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>>545992361
>kyou mo mori wa modified umbrella women standing next to her husband ne
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>>545991140
>600 traces of memory
kek'd
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>>545991140
Now calculate how much energy do we need to farm all this. Then convert it to time
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you get 100k a day in credits. its so over chat
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>>545992234
You don't really need Veronica or Selena for that build, just 3-4 copies of move unity. As long as your supports have enough draw, you can just cycle through them and otk most things.
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>>545991721
>anybody can do it for free by having an Attack!
That isn't anybody then, RETARD
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EN dub soon right?
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>>545992361
I'm so glad WB is so bad I could get out early this time
cygames can't hurt me anymore
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>>545992524
Eh, the devs are being careful with their goodwill right now, we'll probably have a massive event shop, if SS first event shop is anything to go by.
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>>545991836
funny enough, this bullshit OP of a card in StS would be considered bad in czn because of the turn limit. lol
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>>545992549
What's WB?
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>Start of run bonus changing Mel Lin's strikes into some shitty neutrals
Time to drag her ass to save point and reset the run I guess
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>>545992647
worlds beyond
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>>545992524
It's a bonsai game!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>545991893
Mei Lin can't take rally and Barrier is shitty on her.
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kill all nyaggers
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Why does Renoa look fatter in all her pose besides her default one
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>>545992723
hmm... nyo
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>>545992712
>bonsai
me trimming yuki's bush
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>>545992723
uuuuu...
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>>545992549
Same, I played a bit of Izudia and uninstalled.
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>story chapter 4 and 5
>le church is... le not bad?
no wonder they are rewriting the story
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>4 outbreak
renoabwos I'm funmaxxing
https://streamable.com/wn8jdt
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Please don't enshittify my Rei.
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Ok Bros, in a team composed of Haru and Mika, who is the best third option? I tried to go with Khalipe but it wasn't as good as I expected...
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gimme a haru team
is mika berry good? No cassius
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>>545992991
think for yourself
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>>545992987
Vero is another solid option
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>>545992919
kek...you little shit made me chuckle
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>>545992936
>more neutrals than her own cards
>no basics
It's so fucking over
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>>545992936
Bro... three gear bags is already enough to cap your save data, reorganize is even heavier.
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>>545992936
>4 gear box
Lol
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>>545992936
you guys just have no fucking idea how to make decks it's crazy
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Wheres the Beryl sloppas?! My dick needs her!
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Somehow I maxed this Gremlin. Should I max her just to have a justice DPS considering no Haru.
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>>545992987
Veronica/Cassius/Beryl for card fishing
Orlea/Magna/Owen/Amir(maybe?) for Vulnerability application

Those are the first options that I'd think about
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>>545992029
Fuck you
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>>545993062
>>545993070
>>545993072
>>545993134
It's actually not terrible.
I can definitely use this with Kayron or Mei.
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Why is everyone waiting for this slampig? Haru looks better than her
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>>545992936
FOUR gearbags plus TWO attacks plus ONE reorganize is already like 70k+ lel
Removing the basics too will prune this down to 40k and remove more than half of those, get ready
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>>545993325
>Removing the basics too will prune this down to 40k
Removing increases size though
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>>545993325
What's the math behind removing own cards
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level 50 can't come soon enough
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>>545993173
I know it's unrelated to what you're asking, but I wonder if Beryl's E6 bonus apply to her Extra Attacks from her opening found upgrade
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Place your bets, how much of this shit is going to the shadow realm?
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>>545993518
And I thought I was greedy.
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>>545993443
That's what I meant, I worded it poorly my bad
I meant
>removing basics will increase it even more, making the deck get pruned even harder
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>>545993518
It'd be a miracle if kefox stays in at all, let alone with the epiphany.
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>>545993518
say goodbye to your kekfox and one div
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>>545993310
Odachi > anchor
Slutty cheongsam > slutty schoolgirl uniform
No bra > bra
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>>545993310
I like sluts with big swords. I also like bondage, so her and Chizaru are must pull for me.
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>>545993582
>>545993634
>>545993679
My fucking rallies
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>>545993704
This anon gets it.
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Rei found the drug stash...
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I hate save data
you shouldn't have to decide between building to clear the world and building for save data
All my mika save datas are bricked because I'm farming blue pot and need to pick up rally / the other card for mr extra attacks
I really hope the save data overhaul turns it into a draft at the end of the run
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>>545993750
>Kept the kekfox
Lucky bitch.
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>>545993518
About as much of it as mine yesterday.
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>>545993750
>I gib you one non-div kekfox and one water arrow
>you gib me two rallies, all divs, one gear bag, one attack
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>>545993826
>Draft
You wouldn't be able to choose what to keep because otherwise you'll choose where to stop.
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>>545993819
>>545993852
You guys just really love bricking your saves, huh.
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>>545993956
It'd be easier to not brick if we had any real idea of what the fuck goes on with the calcs beyond some vague guesses.
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>>545993826
>you shouldn't have to decide between building to clear the world and building for save data
Yes, yes you should. That's the whole point...
I understand it's frustrating sometimes but that's the whole point...
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>>545994000
Well, we at very least know for sure that neutral and monster cards are basically a ticket for getting basics back in and removing the epiphanies.
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>>545993852
oh you were begging for it with this
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>>545994000
That's fair, but vague guesses are already enough to easily assume
>removing basics
>adding neutrals
>draw neutral
>monster cards
>epiphanies
>divinities
>copies
All can increase your save data, some by a LOT, so adding everything of the above to one deck is like asking it to be gutted.
I'm just no sure about equipment. I know they increase but not sure about the amount.
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Final twilight 3 stars took me 200 tries with my F2P build, but I did it
Legit took 10+ hours
This fucking torch was the key to victory, auto-2 mark is too powerful
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>>545994203
congratz. post team please
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0-cost normal attack btw.
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>>545994000
>if we had any real idea of what the fuck goes on with the calcs beyond some vague guesses.
We do have a lot of information already, testing with the datamined values show there's three resource buckets that are separately allocated to base deck changes, card additions, and removal checked against save data budgets.
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>>545993852
3 mythics and 2 legends. lel
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>>545992060
Imagine all decks getting deleted each season
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>>545994203
You got less than a pull anon.
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>>545994376
Makes sense, but it's the first I've heard of that.
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>>545994451
he got 2 refreshes
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>10 lightning dingo
huh? i thought max stack is 5
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Do my weeklies
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>>545994572
veronica, pierce his balls
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I thought they already fixed this bug....
rip 30/30 I guess

https://litter.catbox.moe/ot54os8qz8ap26ukw.mp4
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>>545994304
Magna as vulnerability spam, frontloaded veronica fishing for sir kowalski and beryl just praying for RNG because her build was very basic
Gayron hard-carrying the second team
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You fucks cheated your decks
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>>545994440
They should just delete them every week honestly.
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how do I make Veronica feel good? it just seems to me that my Beryl is always doing more damage for some reason
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Newbie question here anons, does the equipment you get in the Chaos have a weight? Meaning can I get a better deck if I don't get any or does it not matter at all or can my cards get deleted because of it?
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>>545994765
oh nyooo people cheat in a single player game it's nyover...
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>>545994681 (literal me)
I'm dumb so here's fixed link
https://litter.catbox.moe/ot5os8qz8ap26ukw.mp4
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>>545994806
yes
cheating in singleplayer games is the equivalent to failing the shopping cart test
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>>545994765
>latelet
>reroller
deserved
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>>545994712
bro please decorate your decks...
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>>545994712
What did you feed to that Rei to get 75k?
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>>545993310
If Haru didn't wear a bra I'd agree
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>>545994881
Her deck is a fucking mess, honestly she was there as filler because I don't have anyone else, don't ask me why this is 75K
I have a void tutor deck but somehow this worked better
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which characters get the most out of dupes?
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>>545994469
Yeah, it was just never really made public because the rules established were mostly consistent with the lower floors of codex and additional "rules" were added as the total save data budget increased so the author scrapped everything. Basically every card and equipment has their assigned value and any overflow gets cut, removals are ramped up per card cut, rarity isn't consistent with data value some "rare" neutrals are worth 1800 data while others are worth 4000. Events such as "replace a common card with a rare neutral" will hit the budget for both events (1) removal of card (2) addition of card. Basic epiphanies (+1 morale, fortitude) are lower budget than good epiphanies (+1 ap, +1 draw) by about 30%, epiphanies on higher rarities cards are worth basically a negligible amount of data more than lower rarities. At this point he kinda gave up and is waiting for the devs to hold their end of the bargain.
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Trying to limit saves is pointless. Just load the hell out of your saves and let the system cut it by 20-40%, at least you still have a chance to end up with a good deck.
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>>545990296
How do you get this thing?
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>>545995102
I will now build haru
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>>545995153
I got one from city of mist last boss drop
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>>545994793
Beryl better damn deal more damage because she does not have a sliver of utility Veronica has. That said if you wanna deal damage with Vero I rec you use Draw 2 Kowalski that gets Ballistas if you pull a Skill.
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is it 10% hp or 10% of damage as hp or what
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>>545995424
It's 10% of defense. It heals around 5 HP per crit.
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>>545995483
jesus fucking piece of shit nevermind
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>>545995398
guilty pleasure is fucking cracked though
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>>545995161
myes
>>545991458
damage koko, might be able to break 20k after I farm her 35% crit damage for 1 cost card and double crit
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>>545994793
Reroll shop for Second Method
Roll one of the good ballista upgrades
Use the pendant that fits your team best (if you have any 0AP draw skills, those are great with her)
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>>545995037
Orlea feels like half a character before E2, Luke gets amazing power ups every single dupe (if you want consistent HVAP from his E6 you also need his partner though). Beryl E6 is a huge upgrade for her. Veronica E2 and 4 make her a lot more reliable, letting you aim your Ballistas and adding a Ballista via ult.
Supposedly Hugo's damage more than doubles at max dupes too but I wouldn't know. Khalipe E2 is amazing QoL.
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>>545995575
based whaleGOD carrying our server
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Just hit level 50. I wonder if I should save my standard pulls and roll after Haru is added to the standard banner, or just go for it?
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>>545995037
Your favorites!
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>>545990260
pointers buff the anchors so pointers, but don't turn down anchor dupe after boss its still good.
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>>545995681
You don't need E2 Haru to play +1 hit combo, just retain anchor and dupe anchor lifts
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>>545995398
>beryl
>no utility
rumao
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>>545995037
Rin with stance start of every turn pretty completely bypasses her mechanic
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>>545995864
Illiterate Anon. One amazing draw vs a deck of only Upgrades and Draws.
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>>545995937
if only we could get dupes of a card or something
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>>545994793
play her with meirin for free +25% damage because passion weakness on everything.
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>>545995864
Repose is worse than guilty pleasure but cost 0 repose is way better than any guilty pleasure epiphany.
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>>545995970
Shit man I was unaware only Beryl can dupe her cards...
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>>545995754
my favorite is owen
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can somebody explain this buff I don't get it
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>>545996058
their dupes
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>>545995991
repose is NOT better than 0 mana draw 5 lol
sidegrade at best
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>>545996058
all your units get a free dupe
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>>545996058
Your dupes.
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>>545994681
>>545994836
Fucking robbed.
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>>545996058
They all behave as if you had an extra dupe.
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Don't forget anon
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>>545996154
We get no compensation for this. Gooks were right after all.
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>>545995754
My favorite is Veronica! She is part of Black Spica and is a rabbit-mouse.
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>dont want to farm chaos now knowing the first season is coming in 2 days
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Haru is NOT that big
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>>545996043
then why the fuck was density ever the argument you chose ?
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>>545996221
I got to difficulty 8 and thats where I'm staying for a while
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>>545995037
Khalipe E6 would be speedrunning chaos runs with immediate silver veil procs at the start of every encounter.
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>>545996221
New chaos will be tuned for e2 Yuki with signature minimum, so you're not losing much. You won't make it far there anyways.
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>>545996106
Repose draws other combatant cards. You aren't making a deck without rapid fire/launchers but only veronica can dodge drawing her own basic attacks. It also doesn't have exhaust which already makes it pay off in any battle that's not a quick chaos regular battle.
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>>545994836
I can't believe they even failed implementing Hoyo endgame like this. At this point gooks are worse than chinks.
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>>545996393
I don't care about which cards I draw when I can draw my whole deck turn 1. I don't care that my draw card has exhaust when every fight is over in at BEST a deck and a half.
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>>545992528
Do you remove Flame Dragon's Sovereignty? It's not a bad card and I have e2 Mei Lin but it feels in the way of that build.
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>>545990296
Which is sad because I can even still face tank Basin 10 if I just kill them fast enough, not the other way around. They really need to break off from the hoyoslop end game design
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>>545996289
Because Vero still has more draws? And her upgrade potshots are guaranteed unlike Beryl which demands you get luck with Epiphanies and then dupe it. Beryl is one of my favorite characters but she definitely does not draw as well as Veronica. Her true strength is in obliterating assholes by comboing with Orlea IMO.
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Tried +1 Ego Manifestation on Hugo and now I really want E2 Hugo. It gave him a lot of extra damage.
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I want a threesome with both Beryl and Veronica
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>>545996485
>I don't care about which cards I draw when I can draw my whole deck turn 1
Same
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How's this for a start on Cassius?
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>>545996672
ALL WITH DIVINE?
AYYYYEEEEEEE
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>Retaining healing cards counts as healing as many times
Orlea is secrelty OP, isn't she?
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>>545996672
How do you chain them if they can't draw themselves, retard ?
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I just picked a codex world with mobs getting fury every 3 turns.. am I fucked
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which one?
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Is Bomb Prep a good removal here? Veronica just got the +1AP +1draw orb so I wanna focus on her save
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>>545996565
Removing anything more than the basic shield if you're duping unities is a surefire way to brick your deck. One 2-cost won't ruin your combo if you're drawing your entire deck anyways with Beryl/Rei. Worst case you can just snack it with Rei if you really don't like using it.
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>>545996807
She's great with Tressa. But most of her cards are useless and better replaced with gear bags.
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>>545996682
Looks pretty damn great ngl.
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>>545996836
Middle
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>>545996835
Just don't let them live long. Also, is Fury same as morale, or a different buff?
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>>545988684
>Only non slop fan art is furry bara
Nice game czn
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>>545996813
Anyon that's repose, hampter is generic draw 2...
>>545996772
Yeah, made it with the black stain bundle tech, also got the +1 ap/draw trinket from Cthulu. Might start moving over to world 5 to make some characters instead of kefoxing in world 4.
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>>545994793
>how do i make Veronica feel good?
Foreplay for starters.
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>>545996813
>he doesn't know the difference between repose and kowalski
Turns out the Berylfag is just a Veronicalet lmao
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>>545996979
Barafurryfags are a passionate bunch.
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>>545996807
"Secretly" is a big word. She is definitely strong but has some crippling flaws. Best damage support in the game for burst turns (Softie to apply Vulnerability and buff all damage for a turn) only Controller that contributes Shields worth a damn, and has a decent nuke in addition to good healing. The issue is she clogs your hand, has no draw and no budget Partner option.
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>>545996807
Orlea exists for free aoe vuln, that's about it. She's really good at that though.
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>>545996979
Thanks, we know that already.
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>>545997005
>World 5
World 1*, I dunno if the bundle appears in any other world
>>545996954
>It's that easy
iykyk
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>>545996903
Thanks, I wasn't sure what to do with him at first but I think I'll try slotting him in with Tressa and see how that feels.
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>>545996979
make some art yourself
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>>545997005
>Black Stained Bundle tech
Please tell me more.
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Are codex achievements messed up? Do you only get the "random" achievements if you do a world again after you've beaten it with the free codex, and you need to pay then merge into Blue Pot to get the Blue Pot achievements?
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>>545997108
>>It's that easy
>iykyk
Wasn't whatever people were doing to get cheated decks patched out?
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>>545997108
>I dunno if the bundle appears in any other world
Does the bundle not count as removing your cards for save data TB purposes?
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Did Yuki save us...?
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I don't know about you, but my Orlea gets a free slime every turn, two easy 3* shield slimes that also weaken enemies, and carries two Attack. A bunch of healing too and 1 vulnerability off a softie, but Magna does enough of vulnerability spam on her own.
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>>545997342
Fat fuck Haru almost killed us..
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>>545997342
Haru is so shit
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>>545997342
Haru's fat fucking banner...
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>>545997342
>generic schoolgirl (fat)
vs
>sexy slut with tongue piercing
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>>545997386
Camp dialogues when?
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>>545997350
>but Magna does enough of vulnerability spam on her own.
It's just really fucking annoying that you basically need to get vuln on counter or get her E4 or else her counters remove all that vuln. Shoulda baked it into her kit by default honestly for how much pisspoor damage counters do.
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What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>545997342
#ad
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>>545997502
Unlock or upgrade potential nodes 6+ times on 3 different combatants
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>>545997502
Unlock six different Potential nodes? On three characters.
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magna is the best character in game
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The nightmare is ongoing until Dellang gets more fan art. If you see her getting more fan art, make sure you post it so the nightmare can end.
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>>545997616
not different nodes. you can just upgrade basic attack over and over.
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>>545997342
MOGGED
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>>545997342
HARU'S JK FAT ASS AND BOOBS AND PUSSY KILLED THE GAME
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>>545997386
Camp is so fucking cozy and soulful, I hope we get some options to customize or decorate it. Maybe change Dellang’s truck too, lots of options they could go with
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I'm bored of rerolling. Is Rin and Haru good enough or should I keep trying for Mei Lin and Khalipe?
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Will this save? Codex 7 very high NM, second method + sphere of randomness (+1AP +1Draw start). I've removed her mythic card and a legendary neutral.
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>>545997850
I think it will as you're keeping the basic in
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>>545997808
it's starting to look like meilin + veronica are better than everything by a lot.
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>>545997598
>>545997717
Fucking hell, thanks man
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Why haven't they posted anything?
Isn't the patch tomorrow?
Are we EoSing?
AAAAAH I'M LOSING IT
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>>545997939
>draw the entire deck
>punch and kick 1 million times
>mega crit bombs at the end of turn
>glasses bitch is unlikeable but whatever
THE STRONGEST
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>>545997939
Even more than Tressa Hugo?
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>>545998225
No but they're close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivAdiJHoGew
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>>545998068
AAAAAHHHHH TRIPLE FIVE SIX FORKED TONGUES
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>>545997939
Might be because every world except 3 and high basin is weak to passion so you can even take mei lin's upgrades that don't do passion weakness. We also don't have many low action count + punish for acting after monster action encounter
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>>545998225
But you need to play Hugo which is a big downside for some
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>>545997186
Cards with the keyword [Remove] can't be saved in save datas
Converting card into neutral card takes less data than removing them and buying the same card in shop (Very helpful when trying to remove all 3 basics, because the cost rises with each card you remove thats the reason why the 3rd basic keeps coming back)
So if you have the option to convert any basics into any card with [Remove] its going be easy to keep a deck without your basics coming back
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ez
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Mika and Veronica might be stronger than Tressa and Hugo for Chaos because they have literally no epiphany brick unlike Hugo who can not get Outbreak of War on his Upgrade
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>>545998451
Or a big upside
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>>545997939
More like Mika Veronica is broken
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Bros, what’s the best option for BP partner here?
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>>545997808
>I'm bored of rerolling
just play the fucking game, you'll eventually get everyone
you're so behind at this point it wouldn't even matter if you got exactly what you wanted
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>>545997005
Man how are people getting the GOD epiphany dupe saves, AND getting the cluthu balls, I havent even seen it once
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>>545998638
Do you want to discard up to three cards at any given time, and then draw whatever you discarded +1? If so, Nyx.
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Imagine choosing the wrong epiphany
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>>545998704
they are playing an unbelievable amount. also cthulhu only shows up in deep trauma so make sure that's on.
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>Left is multiplicative
>Right is additive
>Literally no way to tell in text
why is this game like this
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>>545998136
>tfw that's my team
>mfw i'm a metafag
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>>545997186
there's an event in Blue Pot that let you swap one of your card with black stain bundle. it's a shitty card with [removed] - it goes away permanently after 1 usage. this make the swap basically a card removal with extra step.
it's one of the the reason to run Blue Pot, that place is rich in card removal event.
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how many hours until the update???
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>>545998849
Mei Lin is too cute to not use
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>>545998831
Yeah i keep getting stress decrease nothing burger
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>>545998909
Tomorrow at reset
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>>545998849
You built the meta team without know it exist, good job
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>want to use magna
>she's useless without hugo
meh
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>>545998909
About 26 doros
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>>545998849
if you're trying to farm chaos 9 at account level <50 you have to metafag a little until you've got some memory fragments for the more average characters. i'll play haru again some day i swear.
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i got zeta randomly. is that khalipe's best partner? is there a better option that isnt in the battlepass?
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Is removing two basic cards still too much on a high save data chaos?
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>>545998704
triple +1 ap pot of greed is pretty fire though
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save data calculate individually right?
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>>545994793
Get as many 0 cost repose on your Veronica as possible
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>>545999156
yes, you can dump neutrals and equipment on your mika if you need to clear the run
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>>545999025
>>545999079
nyo... i cant wait that long...
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>even on Very High my Save Data got gutted
Well FUCK
Can’t have anything in this shit
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Has anyone cleared Judas 10? Is it possible with current decks?
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disgusting whale mode
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>>545999103
I think Wilhelmina is also pretty good. But Khalipe is not Magna, pretty much anything is good on Khalipe as long as it buffs Defense.
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>>545999408
bro this is what happens when you are underleveled
it's gonna be super easy once everyone gets to lvl 50+ and had time to farm their decks not counting bugniggers
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>>545994793
Ask for Sir Kowalski blessing
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>>545999408
see
>>545994203
>>545994712
Its possible, but very hard and honestly not worth the trouble
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>>545999281
I seriously hope in the future we get worlds where everything saves.
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So basically, it seems like Combo is the best epiphany for Anchor shot.
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this is my 1 star clear of basin 10
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>>545999408
Time to build yourself a house with all those bricks.
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>>545999408
desu i think twilight is insanely fun when you have to rebuild your deck for it (had to swap multihit in and out of haru builds for various debuffs). I hope they make it harder tomorrow cause we're all stronger.
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Haru's long ass banner is killing the game
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haru came to me in my first tenner
what did she mean by this
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>>545999670
>Remove turnlimit
>Lean into more crazy enemy gimmicks (Still have them ramp up for a soft turn limit)
This is the way.
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>>545999604
hide this before the retarded rampfags with +1 ap anchor points come by, just clear your deck and turn 1 nuke the floor, playing ramp haru is for e2 copetards
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>>545999790
the turn limit is why it's fun.
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>>545999869
hard turn limits is biased towards burst/dps decks
stall and ramp decks eat shit comparatively, which is just not good game design
a soft turn limit from acting too much and/or enemy also ramping is better
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>>545999746
They won
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>>545999746
>doll
>picks non-doll Alice
you had 3 correct picks to choose from anon
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>>545999408
Basin is too easy. They need to double the mobs' HP or everyone will clear the next one in an hour.
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>>545997342
Haru would have been infinitely more popular if she wasn't wearing a bra, had her nipples poking through her shirt and gave as an underboob shot. Devs really dropped the ball on her.
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newfag here
ACK
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>>546000002
HSR wants you back.
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>>545999954
Rurn limit and leaderboards are strictly whale content, to incentivize spending and to make whales feel good about spending by being better than (you). Neither turnlimit nor the upcoming leaderboards will go anywhere. They are here to stay. It goes against deckbuilding philosophy that should be all about freedom and creativity but at the end of the day this is (sadly) still a gacha.
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>>545995864
>>545995398
Just build and use both
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>>545999646
die nyagger
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what is this gay bug
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>>545999954
stall is unfun and gay. get fucked.

>>546000002
i'm sure it'll get buffed, i hope it'll be by a lot tho.
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What the fuck lol
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>>546000276
OTK combo decks are gay, not stall
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Save data customization contest when?
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They need to give more pulls in the battlepass to be worth it.
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>>546000182
requiring your deck to win in 12 turns doesn't go against deckbuilding philosophy, it is a requirement that you need to meet. it only goes against magic the gathering make blue stall always meta philosophy.
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>>546000276
Double at the minimum. If the 10th floor isn't filled with 20k HP bosses, what's the point anymore? We build decks to limit-test it, not to clear unfun babyshit with 7k HP.
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>>546000276
I agree that stall is unfun and gay
but people should get that option if they want because at some point what you like will be unfun and gay for others and then you're cucked out of your prefered playstyle
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Just messed up my difficulty 7 promo world.................................
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>>546000118
newcutie!
>>546000276
Turn limit is unfun and removes the whole stress mechanic, thats why chaos reducing gear, epiphanies, neutrals are fucking bricks. I'd rather they make a difficult fight gaunlet where stress actually maters, or straight up kills you with ramping damage instead
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>>545999294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImiQRZfTCk
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>>545997342
Haru wasn’t properly shilled and the game’s popularity shot up after launch due to gameplay. To make matters worse while the game does encourage us to do the Trauma Code and learn about her she is still detached from the main story.
I haven’t unlocked the Epilogue but ag very least I haven’t seen her once so far.
Yuki has been shilled in a stream and with her involvement to the plot.
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>>545999604
so that means my stinky E0 Haru can do big damage too? I left her at 40 thinking it was all over
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>>546000458
>I'd rather they make a difficult fight gaunlet where stress actually maters, or straight up kills you with ramping damage instead
yeah imagine if there was a game mode that did this...
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>>545997386
>>545997757
This track is great, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKf8u93ts7o
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Fuck i just bricked my run man
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>>546000463
Oh, figured. You can break the game with a certain veronica-meilin interaction
Can you do without them, I wonder
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I feel bad for her
She exists to get raped by Khalipe
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>>546000463
Justice boss btw
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How does scoring work? I fought a bunch of elites/buffed normal enemies and got one or two rare encounters as well
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>>545990453
no you take your combo anchor shot deck
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BROS IM SO HYPED FOR SEASON 1 BROS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>545999604
HARUGODS
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What world besides blue pot to farm mei lin's and veronica's save data?
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>>545999640
Not bad, considering what the fuck is Nia a fucking do nothing character unless you play Renoa, or Yuki later
>>546000593
Yeah but with save files, you know what I meant
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>>546000385
>requiring your deck to win in 12 turns doesn't go against deckbuilding philosophy
It does, and i explained why.
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>>546000587
Combo gives an additional hit so you're double dipping on your damage bonuses, whatever they are. Ramp just ends up as a single hit and takes longer so it's obvious the potential damage would be lower.
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Nice didn't break the save at all
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>>546000835
Collection score is literally collecting events/weapons you havent seen, go check the exploration tab of each chaos, it tells you which one you havent unlock
For weapons your have to get their 6* version to get the max point
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>>546000835
It just counts a new encounter/item.
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right is just strictly better.
Silver veil + draw from grave
reroll epiphanies when
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>>546000660
This might have been worth something if it had Retain, but lmao, lol without it. Unironically why did you even pick it?
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>>546001093
Zero cost is good though
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>>546001093
that'll be a year 3 feature
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>>546000820
mei lin doesnt care
mei lin smash
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>>545997342
Yeah Haru's FAT ASS almost killed the game.
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>>545997850 (me)
>3 god reposes reduced to 1 god epi and 1 vanilla epi
>A shield came back
Man...
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>>546001115
I'm sleepy and didn't see the exhaust tag LMAO
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So I don't really care about decks and just wanna farm gear, since some anon posted the basin trick, is the best way to farm gear just rushing a zone 9 map, kill the boss, return do the basin shit, reset the map that way and kill the boss again for the 3 golden pieces? Cuz I just killed him took my loot, basin reset and the same map is reset ready to go again. Seems to be the best way, right?
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>Defense set
>Order damage

>Attack set
>Instinct Damage

Motherfucker
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>>546000090
You're a porn addict
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redpill me on save data
you can have the most godrun possible but the game decides fuck it and only saves a part of it?
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gayron is better at killing judas than haru....
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Just posting this to remind people the Ilias we got is named Kyrken
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>>546000090
TRVTH NVKE
>>546001386
low t faggot
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>>545997342
Haru is just a really boring character with really boring character design.
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>>546001294
It even has similar, even higher save value than these 2 LMAO
>>545998704
>>545997005
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Do the highest level Chaos stages save all data? Dunno if I wanna play the game but not being able to save everything from your run (or at least letting me choose what to add or remove) is a deal breaker for me.
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>>546001391
Season 1 comes with improved data. I think they're adding a feature where if you exceed your Save Data Cap, you can pick which cards to remove, and/or add basic cards.
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>>546001583
>Do the highest level Chaos stages save all data?
No :)
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Does instinct ignition (epiphany on card creation) work outside Chaos?
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>220 rolls
That's a lot but mostly came from one-time rewards and apologems. I dreaded I hitting hard pity and it will take another 2 months to get back enough rolls for hard pity again since they're using gayshit as their benchmark.
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>>545999790
I think the new game mode is gonna be about that where you give the boss a bunch of fuckoff bonuses.
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>>546001625
Is there any reason for that? Will they change the system in the future, at least?
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>>546000660
Nvm we're still good
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Who are we getting
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>>546000194
I did.
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What is this all about?
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>>546001695
Yeah that is only 1.5 a guarantee if you're unlucky, and after "testing" my luck I'm fucking hoarding until Narja becomes playable
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>>546001934
Dunno but the first girl is streaming Wuwa too that's all I know.
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What is even a legendary neutral card?
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>>546001718
>Is there any reason for that?
It's a gacha game.

>Will they change the system in the future, at least?
Remains to be seen. There is supposedly some sort of transparency update regarding the nature of Save Data soon. Hopefully it's when the new season starts in a couple days. There was a bug in Difficulty 5 (minimum Zero mode difficulty) where pretty much everything saved 100% all the time, and lots of people abused it for a long time, but this was bug reported to CZN and less than 24 hours after it was made public, it was fixed.

We have no idea who the transparency update will solve anything. It could be that (You) get to decide how the game fucks your deck up if your Save Data is too good, meaning you pick which cards get added back or taken away. It could just be that there is some sort of indicator as to what your max Save Data limit is for the run vs what your Save Data is currently at. We'll have to see.
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>>546001848
Dupe luckGOD
>>546002001
Neutral cards with Yellow text, like gear bags
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>>546002001
These yellow text cards
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What do I take?
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>>546001695
>I dreaded I hitting hard pity and it will take another 2 months to get back enough rolls for hard pity again
Bro, you're getting one (1) soft pity per season (9 weeks), and that's only if you're buying the monthly. You'll be able to 50/50 on one (1) character per season. Unless there are a shit ton of free gibs hidden away somewhere that they didn't show us on stream.
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>>546002131
>Aimed Fire is legendary
>Gear Bag is legendary
wtf i didnt know that
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>>546002001
A type specific card with a gold border.



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