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Previous >>546277207

New patch soon
>News
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/duo-and-store-update
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/north-line-update
[YouTube] The North Line Update | ARC Raiders (embed)

>Resources
https://arcraiders.com/en/news
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19IQX87jrhY-Sg41a2lm5lKrVJzwwc21gzF5i9SRnhM4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Check the bottom of the docs!
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Why didnt they hotfix the venny? I would imagine changing the values for guns would be the quickest thing ever.
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Ahahahhahahahshhahaahha holy fucking shit the "new playstyles" are literally pve modes.
Lonewolf is a solo raid with increased arc presence
Trailblazers is a trio raid with increased arc presence and no other squads

Pvp chuds literally cannot recover.
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BREAK OUT
BEFORE YOU GET BUMRUSHED
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Why can't my raider look like this?
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Is it just me or is the Ferros the most OP gun? It's so easy to craft especially for a gun that hits hard.
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I finally butt pocketed a wolfpack
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>>546340502
>source : my ass
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I think the only bp I really want left is for blaze nades, although I assume they're about to get "fixed" soon anyways.
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>>546340891
I scrap/sell every showstopper I get. I just don't see the value when shock mines exist and arcs are barely a threat
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>>546340716
Wait until you find the Anvil
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im gonna say it right here and right now
dam is best map
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>>546340942
I don't recall inquiring.
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>>546341049
Loot-wise for sure
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does anyone have a spare BP for a silencer II?
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>arc raiders popping
>tarkov 1.0 setting up to be an absolute flop
>nikita won't even release a patch not because there's "too much stuff"
Fucking lmao. I'd only reinstall (and play PVE) if they add the AN-94. Piece of shit russian scam.
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>>546341214
Yes
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>run into a duo that teamed
>repeat "don't shoot" over and over again
>left with <5% health
>use the cheat where you hit escape to see if anyone is near you
>those two haven't extracted yet
>check the final extract location
>see them running around probably waiting for me
>just wait
>they get bored and run away to go looting
>swoop in and extract
get fucked
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>>546341238
what do you want for it my fren
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>>546341049
It's a lot more enjoyable now that you aren't forced to run it exclusively.
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>>546341271
>>use the cheat where you hit escape to see if anyone is near you
How far does it track people ?
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>>546341326
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this stitch and hornet with the sticky nade thing is pissing me off
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>>546341541
Just wait for it to stop moving and then stick it.
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>>546341406
not sure, but I'm guessing the same as proximity chat
cause I'll randomly go
>hey don't shoot
and I'll unexpectedly get a
>I won't
back, and I hit escape, and someone is on the list
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>>546341624
Sometimes the list has names from the last match in it and some that stay in it for a long time despite me knowing I'm 100% alone. Don't trust it too much
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>>546341614
guess i have to hit em once with a ferro then stick em with a snap?

also stiches seem to take so many shots unless im not hittin them right
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something's really broken with the net code someone downed me with a burst after I rounded a corner for cover
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Solo play isn't fun at low levels. How can get anything going if I'm one shotted all the time? Are the different areas higher level or some shit? Why is there 3 fucking currencies? A post apocalypse world has Bitcoin?
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>>546341803
Tick rate is abysmally low
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>>546341735
shoot it a few times until it's smoking but not burning, then blow it up
it's too finicky otherwise
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that wall is slippery as fuck
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>>546341448
tell me
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>>546341889
>Solo play isn't fun at low levels. How can get anything going if I'm one shotted all the time?
You can be a rat with nothing and still fuck over people. Medium and heavy shields barely do anything. Stitcher and ferro destroys everyone and are legit free kit gear. The fuck are you about nigger ? Play more.
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2 more kills from self-defence. Leave me alone, bro, I'm PvEing
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ok i just installed cheats now what do i do
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>spawn in with only the Arpeggio
>kill a freekit nigger that was extract camping 2 minutes into the raid (????)
>get some fruit
>get startled by a guy running right at me, gun him down with the arpeggio, get Ferro IV and Stitcher IV
>Loot the Kettle IV from a raider cache (?!)
>>546342146
kill yourself
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>>546340763
I believe it though. If they were augments like people were speculating last thread they would have just said augments, not 'playstyles.' I guarantee they saw how many people were asking for pve modes and just jammed it in there.
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>>546342146
put some iron in your mouth and pull the trigger
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i still haven't left the dam yet
at like level 12
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yep its time2loot
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>>546341271
>>they get bored and run away to go looting
Aren't there only like 5 minutes left when it's down to 1 exfil? At that point I feel like I have to start running to the exit or I'm going to miss it.
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>>546342197
>>546342257
>falling for it
You guys are too easy
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>>546342247
>I guarantee they saw how many people were asking for pve modes and just jammed it in there.
PvE mode would literally kill the game. The devs know it : It doesn't stand by itself. It would be giga boring, and turn the normal mode into nothing but PvP shitfest.
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They really fucked weapon balance. I don't want them to buff any weapons past the Venator levels of damage otherwise TTK will be way too low. I mean I get they want low level kits to be competitive but the starting gear basically beating purple items for basically no resources is too much. Yes, rare loot should at the end of the day be an upgrade to the starter weapons. Otherwise what's the point?

Also freekits should be done away with.
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>>546342146
what cheats even are there? aimbot/walls?
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>>546342305
Literally me except throw a ferro 2 in there for backup and 30 heavy ammos.
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>>546342054
I'm upset that I lost an epic gun.
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>>546342357
I have no idea, I just saw them run off and managed to extract with a few minutes left, maybe they were trying to get that last minute achievement
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>>546342451
yes. also radar, loot radar (shows exactly whats inside drawers etc.)
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>>546342507
You'll quickly learn that gear isn't anything to cry about in this game. Even a mediocre player like me is chugging along just fine. And worst case you can go butt naked and put stuff in your ass, or use a free kit and be a menace because you have nothing to nose.
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>>546342305
> He's not running a solo Venetor or hatch key in the safety slot
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>>546342439
Shut the fuck up faggot. Congrats on playing the game for 200 hours and "beating" it but I'm still gonna smoke your retarded neet ass with a ferro 1 freekit hahaah nothing you can do about it
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>>546342416
I think the devs are looking at how polarized the game is getting between carebears and kosers and feel like they need to make a quick move to make sure the carebears don't get too alienated. As everybody's said the game is rapidly degenerating into all kos all the time. They'll probably make the loot a little better in the pvp modes to make up for it.
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>>546342439
I agree, the balance is a little disappointing and entering raids with gear doesn't seem worth it enough. I mostly compromise and do something like >>546342619 where I run a Venator with a blue/green loot kit and green shield so when I inevitably get griefed/ratted by some free kit, it doesn't hurt so bad
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woulda helped if i knew how to use these stupid fuckin trigger nades i woulda lived
am i supposed to press another fuckin button and if so which one?
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>>546342197
if i see you i'm aimbotting you immediately
>>546342257
and you
>>546342451
a $10 trainer that has aimbot, esp, and a few other features
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>>546342609
Are the freebies available at all levels?
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>>546342439
i think player damage should be fuckin halved with the amount of damage arcs do
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>>546343070
There's others way to "protect" the PVE kids, and the devs don't seem retarded. More events and stuff that promote cooperation would do it. Honestly if they release a PvE mode, i would really be disappointed. But we'll see i guess.
>>546343205
Yes. No limit either. Worst shit that can happen is spawning with a rattler.
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>>546342664
If starting gear is better it destroys the whole loot economy of the game and any sense of progression. How do you not understand this?
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>>546342619
ill be crafting the hatch key mid raid
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Where the fuck can I farm cooling fans?
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>>546342439
It feels like they only built tiers to matter for PvE, and I can kind of understand the logic since it keeps PvP from becoming an extreme sweaty shitfest when everything can perform pretty well... but PvE isn't enough of an experience or focus right now to justify the current balance of that. Most robots are easy to deal with - at worse, they can take a while which leaves you open to PvP brats, where said tiers don't matter much.
It's not a very rewarding loop. Is it even a loop?
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>>546343320
Power gen on dam
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>>546340572
i dont want my character to look exactly like me
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>>546342439
They need to give blue/pink shields increased gray weapon resist. You should be able to tank multiple stitcher mags to the face and still have some shield to spare.
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>>546342305
bring a ferro 1/2 and some ammo its too cheap/important not to
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PvE would be fine if there were any ARC that could actually hunt you down. Almost all of them are more or less hard locked to be inside or outside and none will actively search for you without having already spotted you. If there were ARC types that could go inside and outside at will and actively searched for players to gank then PvE would be acceptable.
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>>546343448
The issue is that I dont want purple guns to be buffed to the moon to compensate otherwise TTK would get fucked. Dont buff purple weapons, nerf grey and green weapons.
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>>546343287
>the devs don't seem retarded
I play the finals, this is exactly something they would do
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>>546340716
>Ferro
>Stitcher
>Kettle
>Anvil
A fuckton of low tier guns are fucking goated in this game
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>>546343507
agreed. people whine and bitch about how the game should have a pve mode, and most of them are retards, but a pve mode with double strength arcs as well as indoor arcs (not just the rollers) might be an okay idea.
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>>546343619
i dont play the finals so enlighten me
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>>546343715
i mean in the sense that them making a knee jerk change to address an issue without thinking about long term ramifications is very like them
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>>546343776
They've been extremely slow to patch things and haven't nerfed anything at all
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>>546343703
I dont care if they release a pve mode but I mostly dont see how that could be fun. Just play Helldivers 2 at that point. The Pve in this game isnt any fun really, the enemies outside like 2 are "fun" to fight but otherwise they just shoot you with high damage weapons and roll in your direction.
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>>546343703
>but a pve mode with double strength arcs
corner peeking a bastion for 6 minutes instead of 3
This shit would be dead after 2 days
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>>546343776
>making a knee jerk change to address an issue without thinking about long term ramifications is very like them
Awesome to see the true DICE spirit at Embark
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>>546342305
Based burlettachad. I ran basically that exact loadout exclusively for a while.
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>devs literally say the game when full PVE was shit
>they turn it into PvPvE
>its praised for how people actually interact with each others instead of just pure KOS shitfest
>people think they will give us a PvE mode
You guys are fucking retarded. The arcs are way too shit to provide any actual challenge right now. Without the risk of getting third party'd you can just cheese about anything.
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>>546343936
lol just throw a wolfpack at it. whats this preking shit?
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>>546344027
I agree.
I really don't know how to fix this game though. I've never seen a game with such a worthless tier system before. It's an alright time, but it's not like the PvP is anything special either.
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So I guess a good way to farm blueprints is to shove a Wolfpack up my ass, kill a surveyor and then kill myself
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>>546344158
The fact that high tier stuff doesn't turn you into an unkillable monster is good in a way, because it makes the game more fair.
Its bad in another way, because it means you can just get easily fucked by a rat anyway.
Not sure how do i feel about it.
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>>546344256
Surveyors respawn, up to you to wait though
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>>546344267
High loot weapons should stay as they are, nerf low tier and leave it at that. The big issue are the guns that one tap shields anyways.
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it is not good in the hood tonight bros
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do i need dog collars past gettin scrappy to level 2?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO1NvBd72L4
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>>546344734
no
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>>546344706
shoulda play on NA
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wow these fucking gay snitches man
i dont have a ferro 4 anymore either
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>>546345204
Snitches have 3 fins, you only need to break 2 for it to die
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any takers?
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i havent found any locked room keys in ages
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>>546345241
they are high up and spin like assholes
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>>546345163
that was on NA
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>>546345781
increase fov even more maybe
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>>546345839
nta, but I haven't touched the fov even once
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I'm messing around with the barricade kit in the test range. I see that I can dismantle the barricade after the fact. Does anyone know if rival players can dismantle my barricades, or do they need to brute force through it with damage?
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>>546345876
good. max fov faggots are the worst. even back in the day I didnt go past 105 fov in q3a
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>>546345781
Be more patient. The ferro also has amazing velocity compared to the anvil so you should be able to hit it
>>546345904
Anyone can dismantle them, it makes the same sound as when you do it as well
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>>546345904
yes they can dismantle it. i had to learn it the hard way...
i thought i was safe when looting the area ):
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>>546345993
i must be not far away enough because they close in and then run away after sending reinforcements
i hate them
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i love looting the actual buildings on spaceport. lots of drawers and lockers
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redpill me on the skill tree
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>>546346257
red good
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>>546346257
read, nigger, read
look at what sounds interesting/good then fucking go for it
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>>546346305
yellow good
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>>546346257
Something like this. Make sure to get whatever red lines increase looting reveal speed and amount that are on the way to security breach
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>>546346358
Resetting your skills is extremely autistic to do in this game so I don't blame anon looking for advice
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>>546345993
>>546346101
I see. Thanks for the tip. I guess the most practical answer to cover my ass is to just use a jolt mine. Would memery like pic related work with explosive mines? Or would they just prematurely detonate with perhaps the barricade blocking the blast? I recognize that setting a bunch of mines up like this might not be a practical use of resources.
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>>546346257
Just become an adrenaline junky and save yourself the yellow skillpoints until you unlock security breach.
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>>546346516
unless you go full retard and deliberately avoid nodes that are obviously good it is impossible to brick your skilltree

even if you do that, you can caravan to reset even if it's a pain in the ass
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>>546346765
>loud pain grunt in the distance
Thanks for letting me know where you are
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there a chart for things so i can safely know what to keep and waht to sell/salvage? this reddit image is missing a lot of shit
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>>546346358
>>546346516
Especially since a lot of the skills don't seem to do much of anything.
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>>546346835
read the op, retard
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>>546346934
i cant read though
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>>546346807
For every one run where that fucks you there will be dozens where it doesn't matter, and he can start rolling in security breach loot that much faster.
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i just had a fight where we tried to hipfire eachother w/ anvils through a bunch of junk and we both missed like every shot.
he had a backup shotgun and i did not. bring a backup
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You can spam ping through bushes/smoke and get a tag on someone and then shoot them
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wtf is that timer
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you guys think we will be gettin a little personal reward for contributing to the community effort?
maybe a backpack charm?
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need an option to lock items in stash
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im at 280/280 and 2m creds and im freekitting for pvp thanks to how much i hate the ui
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yeah they need to do something about the ttk in this
you look one direction and you're already chunked outta your shield on top of your health
how is that fun or fair? i know its an extraction shooter but thats some fuuuuuuucked shit
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>close game
>relaunch
>multiple instances running crash
>have to restart pc
This is the third time in a row this shit has happened. I can't end any of these tasks even after ending steam and eac
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>>546348128
I feel like the higher quality shields should be more impactful.
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>>546348208
I've survived with a sliver of hp using the pink shield many times now, but I definitely wish I wasn't that close to death even in a relatively fair fight
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>>546348128
>>546348208
It feels like they should just do a different implementation for shields entirely, like having it be a second healthbar instead of working like the armor in quake 3
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>>546348290
The shield hp system is fairly confusing and makes shots to kill and ttk really hard to calculate and keep track of mid fight
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>>546348290
>>546348551
the shield should be there for shit like someone having a cheap shot on you given the circumstances of this type of genre

all the guns being able to melt you right through the shield on top of the health damage? that doesn't feel thought out well
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>>546348775
I can understand being melted by the facemelter 9000, but some some rusty stitcher-gat? that feels like a huge oversight.
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>Keep ongoing match joining
>Rename it as "Quick Play"
>Leave it as a toggle option
>If Yes you will join any available game that has space
>If No your party will wait until there is brand new match starting at the top of the clock

That's all they need to do, just let people wait
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>>546346358
>read, nigger, read
Surely shit like "let your carry more" and "you make less noise" is enough information to make a decision that will be irreversible for the next 2 months
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other than the beta skins, are there any fomo skins i should learn about?
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>"deal damage to raiders with heavy ammo weapons"
>decide to try out the bettina just to see how bad it is
>take some pot shots at people throughout the raid
>down a guy with it before getting downed by his butt buddy
>it doesnt count towards the feat
>acted like an annoying nigger for nothing
THIS FUCKING THING SUCKS AT EVERYTHING. IT EVEN SUCKS AT BEING CONSIDERED A HEAVY AMMO WEAPON. ITS BP IS BUGGED AND IT ITSELF IS BUGGED. FUCK.
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>>546349216
There was one, it was the deluxe pre order skin called G suit.

Its unavailable to purchase now
>slimmest profile
>all black
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>>546348290
>>546348128
It's kinda nice to have a shield system that isn't just a glorified 2nd health bar tbqh.
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>>546348183
some people are better off witih consoles desu
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why the fuck is this 7 hours away
i want bunker so i can farm another 10 levels easily
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>>546349561
KoS this skin
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>>546349196
in a game about running around huge maps collecting loot while avoiding unwanted fights, yeah that kind of fucking is all the info you need
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https://streamable.com/kbb0wa
>Get shot in the back by a nigger camping maria
>Run ahead and throw two nades in my path
>Hear his flare pop
Heh
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>>546349561
>all black
gay
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>>546349707
probably scheduled to coincide with the update
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>>546343387
But I do.
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>>546349334
God damn that's ugly
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>>546349771
whats the lore on calling someone maria
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>>546349930
Meant Santa Maria Houses obviously
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>>546349919
Whoops meant to reply to >>546349561
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>day 39
>locals have started trading in rusty gears
>the only currency they accept is rusty gears
>even the plant seed wench
>her smell reminds me of a sea food boil left in the back of a 2007 altima
>I miss the old days before the clankers came to fuck up our world
>roll over in bed and decide to fuck one of the 20 rubber ducks I have collected
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>hit key room at water treatment
>going to extract at hatch key, way the fuck away from where anyone would reasonably be
>didn't shoot a single shot the entire raid
>other players are dead silent as well
>free kit in a fucking corner right when I drop my guard
No matter how long I play these kinds of games, I can never get rid of my panic and key mashing when I get surprised. If this isn't proof of how fucking bad the pink shield is then I don't know what is. This guy had the complete drop on me with a stitcher, hit a fair few headshots, with a default fucking mag, and I had almost no hp left despite using the heaviest shield in the game. Please laugh at my incompetence and reliance on ven 4 to save my ass.
I actually think anvil 4 + stitcher or just arenagade is better, but I have too many venators to burn through now
Also, you shouldn't be able to just gear check people with higher tier shit, but I should at least feel a little safer against free kits even if they ambush me when running the best fucking shit in the game
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>>546349569
either give players more life/shield or reduce all the gun damage i mean what else you wanna do here?
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>>546349561
>all black
boring. I love me some colors
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>>546350159
personally I think that outfit is the best but also looks the best without the jacket (at least with that color variant)
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Starting to get to a point in solos where I'm just starting to not care. Arc is no longer scary or mysterious when you know how to beat them or because of the hullcracker's existence. Blueprint farming is soul sucking. Most matches are just KOS ffas where no one is actually trying to loot things. Quests feels wholly pointless since they dont give xp and the rewards are most of the time trivial and not worth caring about. And the solo life without friends is just quiet and lonely. I feel I have no reason to play anymore unless I make some friends, but even if I do get a trio together im sure the gameplay will just be running down other teams in a KOS ffa, but with 2 bot companions that probably play worse than me.
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>>546350102
I don't see how it's even possible to defend the stitcher having THIS much firepower. With upgrades and mods it still eclipses a lot of higher rarity weapons. It's not like tarkov where some fucker suckerpunches you with a careful mosin nagant headshot that takes at least an ounce of skill to pull off and you're punished with a bolt action rate of fire if you miss. It's just some nigger holding down M1 with his scrap gat.
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>>546350146
how do these ranks work, do I have to do trials or just extract
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>>546350270
I'd buy this one if it weren't for those chaps
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>kill someone at extract with the venny
>they had a BP that I didn't have
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Do we know how the devs will handle skill nerfs/buffs? Will players be permitted to respect their talents in response to a balance patch, or will they need to wait for a wipe?
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>>546350270
blue/yellow(even if orange) is goated
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>>546350342
I was so fucking surprised by how quickly my hp went down and thinking I was completely fucked when I fat fingered Q and threw the smoke instead of shooting. I wish I had saved a screenshot of his inventory but it was literally just a free kit + another free kit he killed that had a rattler
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stitcherGODS cant stop winning...
but yes, the gun should not accept magazines at all.
fixed 20rds is more than enough for that beast. especially since it reloads quickly
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>>546350625
What if we gave the stitcher the rattler's rounds reload?
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>>546350350
Everyone is assigned to a random group of players and at the start of every weekly reset you move up or down depending on where you stand compared to everyone else you are grouped with. The points earned from the trials that week are totaled and that's what you see what you look on the leaderboard.
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>>546350118
I think TTK is fine for most guns
It's just a bunch of outlier fucking it up for everyone
Stitcher because it cost nothing
Venator, Renegade, Anvil because they decided to give them massive firerate per upgrade for some reason
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>>546350762
truly an amerimutt specimen
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>>546350717
no. the rattler reload should be removed even from the rattler. especially on the t1 version lol. that thing cant kill anything
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>>546349561
so there are no seasonal skins that i must do A and B before a new one comes out?
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>>546350851
it just makes more sense for people to have more health then since the shields aren't universal

also got some weird fuckin bug swappin in a sticher and shootin one bullet and i get a forced reload
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>>546350954
I think rattler reload is kinda soulful for a grey gun
They just need to expand the mag
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I'm hoarding need space
What do I do? Sell or Recycle?
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i havent gotten a steam hate comment in a week...
i have been such an asshole but still - nothing.
:(
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>>546350996
its got that pop to it yeah
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>>546351010
Sell those blue shields
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>>546350935
idk if the current free deck will go away when they add the new one in December but that one gives you skins

There's also the ugly ass Patrol fit for ranking in the trials I guess
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>>546351010
Upgrade every gun to 4, sell the green augments, scrap all but one med shield because you just need to hold onto batteries and arc circuitry to make more rather than wasting slots
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>>546350996
meant for >>546350876
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>>546351010
upgrade the guns you like the most to IV. this will chew through your resources
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>>546350464
Arc raiders but with anime girls when?
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why are frag mines not so popular?
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>>546351010
green augs get ye gone, they're cheap enough to buy on a whim
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Rattler should be the only weapon freekits give you
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>looting and hear someone running up to my door
>volcano is in my hands so i dont mind
>he opens the door
>all of a sudden jolt mine is in my hands
>die
I hate this game
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>>546351207
They don't do much damage and a single shock mine outperforms them
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>>546351010
wait till the communiy efforts launch later today. lets see what we need to
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>>546351259
I think all R1 grey weapons should get a nerf
Freekits meta should be loot and scoot, not rush the nearest flare, empty mag and loot a kit
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I actually quite like the rattler
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>>546351259
fine. but only if the t1 version starts with a 20rds magazine
>>546351332
nah they need a buff. give them more storage space
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>>546351352
I like it at like level 2 onwards
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>>546351260
your webm sir???
also rattler is neat. its just that the lvl 1 version is garbage and needs a bigger mag
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I love the fantasy of being a cool cowboy oldhead sticking it to clankers
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>>546351010
did you finish expedition? You're going to need like hundreds of thousands worth of weapons to sell for that
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>>546350102
>gear check
You yourself admit the dude was able to just freely unload a stitcher mag into you point blank, missing almost nothing. If you had a green shield on you would have been dead twice over. You basically gave him that kill and still survived.

Not saying I wouldn't have also done the same shit though, I am also a sperg.
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>>546351295
explosive mines do plenty, it reduces you to one shot territory and depending on how you plant them the way they jump outward can help with mitigating them running past it
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>>546351260
happened to me with a trigger nade, it sucks.

>runs up on me
>have the upper hand
>open wheel to trigger
>last second it swaps to smoke
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>>546351679
>40 damage
That's just not enough for me, man
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there were those red sticky nades in the subway tunnels on buried shitty the other day.
they exploded the moment I went near them.
how?
theres no way some dude could have seen this. they were literally in the middle of the tunnels and nobody could have seen me there
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>>546351789
How much HP does a raider have even?
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>>546351874
gonna blow your mind here... 100
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>>546351874
100hp+shield
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>>546351852
they're laser triggered you dolt
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>>546351874
100 hp + shields which reduce by a minimum of 40% with a minimum hp of 40. I'm going to say the base case is a medium shield rather than a green so whoever just broke in has 100 hp, a shield with 70, and a reduction of 42.5%. The attacker would lose 17 hp and still have 30 shield left which would cause your first shot to do 42.5% instead of full damage as well
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Do you run more than two weapons? I'm seeing clips of people where they loot a body and they have like 2-3 venators on them. idk if just looting or durability goes that fast
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>>546352146
Well, they probably also killed people and took the weapons, I definitely loot anything that isn't a common weapon (hell even white weapons if they're IV)
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>>546350481
No we don't. But if/when they start rebalancing the skill tree I would be surprised if they didn't give some kind of respec option. If you had to do expeditions to reset, that would be by far the greatest advantage to doing them. And a lot of those players aren't resetting because they don't play enough to 100% the game every 4 weeks, they might be losing 6 months to a year of progress to unfuck themselves out of a balance patch.

But that's just my opinion, who knows what Embark is thinking.
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>>546352146
Usually 2, sometimes one if I'm running avnil/venator/renegade. Durability does not go that fast so whoever you are seeing has just killed a few people or looted security lockers
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>>546351874
100HP
EHP is somewhere in the ballpark of ~115/130/145 for L/M/H shields
the actual EHP varies due to how the damage mitigation works
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>>546352146
if my primary weapon lacks range or the ability to efficiently kill arc i'll throw on a ferro or an osprey if i'm feeling fruity
but no usually i'm relying on a single main weapon for general combat
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red pill me on portable tv + remote control combo
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>>546350102
The pink shield saved your life though??
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>>546352429
Against a level 1 stitcher free kit. Now imagine if he was slightly better or I was slightly worse lol
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>>546352146
I salvage all green weapons unless they are upgraded and same with osprey and bettina. Dont even touch grey weapons.
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Throwing Snitch scanners at enemy teams in trios is legitimately my favorite thing to do in this game
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>>546352146
Shit I only run 2 guns if I have a surplus of something to get rid of, and it's not an all-rounder.
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>>546352503
For me it's popping someones shield far away while using a blue suppressor and then running away. That or saying "hello raider" to someone who is sneaking around with no idea I've been watching them the whole time
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>>546352429
hard to tell from the footage but a medium shield would probably have kept him alive there as well
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>>546352628
You think?
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>>546352480
Stitcher I has a 30 second reload animation (as does pulling out a non-pistol 2nd weapon). You're fine bro.
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>>546352804
yeah
he has like 20HP left, greater than the EHP difference
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>>546352985
Each shield pip is 10, looks more like 12-15 hp left
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do most of these games just make you rarely pick up new fuckin guns?
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>>546352628
The shield would have broken sooner and there wouldnt be as much damage reduction from the beginning. He would absolutely be dead with a medium shield
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>>546353457
Guns are heavy because you shouldn't be able to carry a backpack full of the most useful shit someone is carrying on them, an upgraded gun with mods and ammo already in it. It also helps to balance bringing an inventory full of loaded guns and just swapping them into your slots instead of reloading
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you die too quick with how much you can fuckin lose on death
even your augments being lost is insane to me
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>>546353104
that doesn't make sense, the shield segments expand to match the length of the health bar. they don't correlate with HP directly. the shields all have <100HP, so they all stretch up some amount. like a light shield fills the whole bar but is only 40HP with 4 pips, nah mean?
but that's a good idea, estimating using the pips. i'd say he's about a pip-and-a-third HP out of 8 pips, or 100 * (1.33/8)
so about 17 HP
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kos stichers. only a ferro is worth keeping on as your killing arc with them. light ammo is for pvp
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>most of the cool guns are expensive and aren't any better than just a basic stitcher 1
>the shields don't super matter, and aren't particularly hard to get
>none of the arc are particularly challenging or hard to fight, a basic ferro can plink at them, or you can just buy your daily hullcracker for cheap and kill even the biggest ones
>skills are completely meaningless, save for a few that are just nice to have
>trials seem cool, but then you really just do it for another loot drop
>you can get BPs for stuff, but who really cares when you can purchase the best arc destroying weapon and make the near best cheapest killing people weapon
>workshop upgrades are somewhat tedious but are mostly QoL, a fast healing shot and a fast shield charger are okay
>killing other people is somewhat pointless, what, are you gonna go get 'better' loot, to tuck away or sell for ??? reason?

I feel like this game is just kind of flawed inherently. There's The Journeyâ„¢ that's fun, but it's kind of only fun if you're okay with most of your progress not actually meaning very much. You can eventually roll out with security breach, some higher tier weapons, maybe a heavy shield, but for what? more of that? you get it just to get more? What do you actually do in this game, what is it all for? Does it all just end with PVPing others endlessly, and everyone runs freekits or low tier loot because all they have to do is gain? Am I insane?
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>>546353457
If I have a hatch key I almost never care about being over encumbered. Its just a question of 'do I have enough lure nades to not worry about it'
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>>546353628
> they don't correlate with HP directly
Totally slipped my mind as well, my bad
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ferro/anvil II
stitcher II
bunch of ammo and basic meds.
cheap and highly effective.
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>>546353646
I don't disagree, but it's not really an issue for me until the majority of the playerbase reaches that conclusion. The best part of the game is the player interactions, so as long as they stay fun and relatively fresh, it'll still be good.
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>>546353736
actually stitcher III is worth it. it’s just 1 simple gun part I believe. I have like 120 of them lol
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>>546353552
it'd seem that way but surprisingly medium->heavy doesn't really tip the scale that hard
you'd have to step through each shot to conclusively say one way or another but it's totally within the margins for a medium shield to maybe let him survive that
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I anticipate stitcher and ferro nerfs, Bettina and bobcat buffs.
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I really hope they nerf free kits and maybe buff heavy shields to be more than 80 shield and touch nothing else. The game is in a decent spot at the moment, but freekits should be scared and moving around like little scavengers, not rushing flares to gun people down. Base Ferro and Stitcher are way too strong. I also think they shouldn't get an augment if they extract with their free one. They should be forced to prioritize looting to set up for their next run, not grubbing people to stockpile without losing a thing if they die.

If i made the game freekits would only get rattlers, no augment trade in, and they get 1 extra shield recharger and 1 extra bandage.
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>>546353630
>bring sticher to protect yourself from kos
>get kosed for bringing a sticher
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>need bag space
>craft 25 impact grenades
>stash is full
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I can't seem to get any good loot no matter what I do. If I go solo, I die to other players or missiles, or don't find anything good because it's already been looted. I just lost an Anvil II I found and now I can't get another one. There doesn't seem to be anyone I can group up with either. What am I doing wrong?
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>>546353962
why would you craft the most useless item in the game
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Just make freekits start with either a hairpin, no gun, or a ferro 0 which is an even shittier version of a ferro that has a chance of misfiring and just having a fucking long reload
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>>546353984
If you sprint you're really loud. If you crouch you are more quiet. If you shoot first you have a much better chance of winning a duel
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>>546354036
delusional
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>>546354036
bait used to be believable
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>>546353646
yeah when you figure out the loop, which i mean i already came in questioning the whole thing, it makes you REALLY think like why the fuck am i killing players?
theres just not much of an incentive other than a chance of being a loot pinyata, but you can just, loot places yourself
the risk reward in this game is just teetering on the edge when the ttk being this fuckin low that if you blink for a second, someone already took your shield off +with some health, and already finishing off the rest of your health bar before you can even figure out what you're doing
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>>546354061
>>546353962
>night raid
>I brought a light shield
>some guy looting a locked room
>push his shit in
>he throws 2 impact grenades, missing 1
>I still have most of my shield and hp left as I kill him
>"GG I almost had you"
Are impact nade fags just retarded?
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>still malding over freekits in a casual TPS
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>>546354061
>>546354083
you throw one 5 impact grenades that all land directly on my head

i click you twice with anvil

tell me which of us is lying dead on the ground?
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finally had someone sneak up and kill me, and it was on spaceport when i was just tryin to rush to the elevator for the daily.
and it was a fuckin console player with an anvil
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Shields should negate 100% of damage until they break. Change my mind
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>>546353646
There's just something about the way people ragdoll, the way they cry and beg when downed, or spit out insults, or even just go, "what the fuck, how?" I'll be ganking people for a long while yet, especially just to see all the stupid shit I can get away with
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>>546354239
You both are if the other guy managed to throw 5 grenades at you, learn to aim lil tardbro
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>>546353984
Dying too much, it sound retarded but it's true
Playing quiet, extracting early and using raider hatches is kinda overpowered in this game
I honestly feel like this game punish greed more than Tarkov
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>>546354252
BIG true.
damage reduction is stupid as hell
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>>546354252
i cant change your mind. how about increase player hp too?
we dont need this fuckin fortnite health
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>you throw 6 fireballs at me
>rocks fall, you die

WHICH ONE OF US IS DEAD BECAUSE OF YOUR INITIATION?
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>>546353646
yeah honestly the PvP carries this game. outside of desync/latency issues fighting other dudes is a blast.
normally for these games it's the progression and sick loot/gear that carries it (farmed 100m profit on streets running thick kits last tarkov wipe i played), but the base weapons are so good and high tier gear so meaningless that it's hard to be interested in that aspect. the high-end is not exciting.
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>It's another Venator4 episode
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>>546354310
5 direct hit impact grenades do not kill somebody using a medium shield.
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think tomorrow im just gonna force myself to fight everyone i encounter with a free load out while screaming 'IM GOING TO KILL YOU"
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>>546354517
my torrente beats this
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>2 more hours until the update drops
lets fucking go raiders!>
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>>546354338
how early is early to you?
i've just had way too much success just looting what i can and rushin the extraction but i'm not even really going for anything
i guess im playin the game and progressing but then you introduce the quests which kinda cockblocks you from other even though you dont care for the rewards(they are just like consumable shit that doesn't matter)

i'm stuck on sticking a hornet with a nade and killin snitches but i can't really focus on that when its such a crapshoot depending on my loadout that i have to build up on.
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>>546354517
yeah shields feel like such an afterthought. you're already half health by the time its gone
like what the fuck are we even doing here, arc raiders?
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>>546354541
based
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>>546354560
If you're in extreme CQB and no one is going for headshot it's actually a tie, 1.20s for both weapon
If it's beyond 5m the Venator win due to accuracy
If the Venator go for headshots it will win without losing 50% of its HP
Honestly praying they nerf this shit in an hour or the update is worthless
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>drag a leaper over to two solos who are teamed up
>throw lure at the two guys
>after like 8 seconds the leaper goes back to targeting me even though there are two people right in front of him
Hate lure grenades, the aggro should swap completely
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>>546354809
if shields blocked everything there would be little reason to care about health, just stack an inventory of shield rechargers
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Where do I find the update information if I dont use twitter or discord?
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>>546354686
>how early is early to you?
It kinda depends, sometimes I loot random shit, fill every slot in my bag and decide that's a wrap if I have a safe exit nearby
On the other side of the spectrum, you can bring a raider hatch, play it slow and safe for 28 minutes and comfortably leave at the end when the map is nearly empty
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>>546354303
This game should really have been first person
Third person combined with the short TTK makes it incredibly frustrating to deal with ambushers and campers, people can just sit behind a corner and pop you for half your health with one shot before ducking back into cover
At that point what can you even do?
You rush them, they just finish you off due to the quick reload/recocking
You try to run away, they rush you instead
You pop a smoke, they throw a nade or blind fire

If it were first person at least these sort of ambushes would be a bit harder to pull off, as you would need to rely on sound to figure out where enemy is or peaking a little bit which would put you at risk of being seen and giving the guy a chance to fight back
At first i played this game like fortnite due to the ability to roll and dash, but then i realized you need to play it like counterstrike to have a chance of winning, but in that game people cant just magically see around corners without putting themselves at risk
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>>546351947
for real?
like proximity mines?
wtf thats op as fuck. i thought you gotta blow them an manually
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>>546354338
Happened again just now, barely even got started with trying to find stuff. What is the point of killing people using gray weapons with barely any loot? I had nothing worth taking yet, I was using a Ferro. I didn't even know a Stitcher was fully automatic let alone capable of doing that much damage. Fuck man.

>>546354303
>>546354605
You're a cunt by the way and I hope you blow your brains out tonight.
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>>546355131
>This game should really have been first person
Tarkov is and it's just as bad if not worse
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>>546354962
ironically calling it a shield is misleading because it works more like armor
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>>546355131
Retarded family guy poster
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>>546354962
thats how it works in most games and it works like a charm. having to use 2 health items combined EVERY time is just stupid and unecessarily clunky
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>>546355191
I camp that spot specifically because new players get a quest that gives them a key to the room nearby and I get their loot for free. It also gets a LOT of traffic from being near an extract
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>>546351146
After we finally get The Division but with anime girls.
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>>546355254
>thats how it works in most games and it works like a charm.
Maybe for zoomer games, it really wouldnt in this game
I like the fact that landing a shot before a fight is meaningful, it let you be aggressive
In fortnite you just take cover and pop another shield, it's like nothing fucking happened
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>>546355615
>everything is fortnite
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>>546355254
You should be punished for getting hit. You shouldn't be able to easily heal anything off in a few seconds. The healing in this game is already pretty strong, any stronger and it'd take fucking forever to chunk someone down. There is also some decision making between which healing items to use, because you might not have enough time for a shield recharger to tick up and it could get interrupted
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>friends want to go bluegate and fight in the hills near pilgrims
>Literally get mobbed by 10+ players every time, even dudes at raiders refuge are getting involved, never manage to extract
>"Hey, what if we went into the tunnels instead, and brought nades + mines to cover our flank?"
>Easily kill 3 squads, 100k extract per person
>Next raid, blue gate again
>They immediately start taking potshots from 800m again and we die in the middle of a 4 squad moshpit
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>>546355716
That's not what I said at all
Thank you for posting a picture of yourself tho
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>>546355197
Tarkov's problem is cheaters and op snipers that one shot. Arc doesn't have the latter, ferro would be a lot less strong in a first person game and osprey requires you to fully come out of cover to use since the scope is first person.
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>>546355191
stitcher and kettle are very good pvp weapons. kettle 1 reload is abhorrent but the numbers are very good.
>what's the point of killing people using gray weapons with barely any loot?
many reasons, but principally, i don't know what you have in your inventory and i can't check it without killing you. i don't know your intentions. if i have good gear, i have little incentive to give you the chance to jump me. you have nothing to lose. if i have shit gear, that makes you my competitor.
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>>546355854
>op snipers that one shot
You don't play the game. The .338 is a meme at best by the time you unlock it
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Just learned from helping a random that you can clip through walls into key rooms
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>>546355191
people go on pvp shit because
>people have shot them on sight despite your own principles of not doing that to others so they go to extremes
>some dailies require you to deal damage to raiders
>or they are faggots who get joy from it
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>>546355197
tarkov's issues don't have anything to do with its perspective
all of my issues with arc raider's sandbox has everything to do with its perspective
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>>546356003
Enjoy your ban in less than two hours
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>>546355191
>What is the point of killing people using gray weapons with barely any loot?
If you can get an easy kill it's the safer option, less chance of getting backstabbed later by said player
Also a lot of freekitters are suicide bombing into fight hoping to get a kill, to the point where if I see anyone with a grey weapon in hand approach me I shoot on sight
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>>546356023
Its not cheating, its a feature
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>>546356017
What I was trying to say is that Tarkov has a lot of ratting and other forms of camping despite it being first person, especially because of the audio
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>>546355743
someone healing is you not punishing them or being aggressive enough]
no one is fuckin sittin there recharging health and bandaging health face tanking your shots
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>>546356036
how can you even tell if their weapon is a grey weapon?
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>>546356167
Have you ever had a fight at a range greater than ~50m or so? It's not very fun because every shot just breaks a shield, makes them go into cover to recharge, and then they re-peek. MAYBE if you have a smoke and a barricade, or a lot of cover on the way, you can push further towards them. Most of the time you just have to let people be if they are further away than the anvil's accuracy distance unless you just feel like taking a potshot
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>>546356167
>someone healing is you not punishing them
True, and that's why AR system is good, because healing take time and give opportunities for pushes
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>>546356252
By look and sound
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>>546356036
>>546356004
>>546355908
So my choices are be a dick and kill other people on the chance they might kill me, and feel bad about it, or just die to randoms on a whim?
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The ratting in this game makes Tarkov look like Quake 3 Arena. Its too easy to hold angles and play defensively.
The combat is just a chore and not satisfying at all, i also have no idea what they were thinking with the sound mixing its complete shit.
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Have any of you faggots found a purple BP besides the bettina?
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>>546356252
He's probably just talking bout the stitcher and to a lesser extent the kettle. They have a distinctive sten gun style magazine.
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Fuck this. I'll just wait for Tarkov on Saturday.
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>>546356428
Fight or flight. You don't have to start, but you must be able to finish.
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>>546356459
ah that makes sense. i thought he was going off a weapons rarity and that got me curious like they sound and look drastically different.
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>>546356428
If you are running through an area and don't feel like fighting, give a HELLO RAIDER, if you see someone first and don't feel like ambushing them, give them a HELLO RAIDER, if you are wanting to extract and hear it going off already, approach with a HELLO RAIDER
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>>546356545
>Say HELLO RAIDER
>Other guy HELLO RAIDER's you back
>Domes you as soon as you take your eyes off of him
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>freekit to hurt people
>a wild rusty gear appears
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>>546356428
In a nutshell yeah
There's also a middle ground where you try to stay away from trouble while remaining ready to fight and trusting your gut when it come to people near you
I personally very rarely shoot first and I'm doing ok so far
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>>546356620
I'm white and will voip to let others know I'm white with my voice. I also play on NA servers with crossplay off. I have never lied to or backstabbed a single person and I genuinely could not force myself to if I wanted to.
I do however, camp and extract camp
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>>546356130
oh sure yeah
you can't eliminate ratting/camping without removing stealth as an option. i would just say TPS exacerbates that shit like no other. being able to jump dudes with perfect prefire jiggles is insane

>>546356428
if you want to entertain being friendly with others in hopes that they will be friendly to you, you have to open yourself up to some risk. that's just fundamental. stay alert, stay cautious, be aware of other players and be ready to fight them
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So, heavy ammo is much better against ARC enemies, but are there any disadvantages to using it against people? Or are heavy guns flat out better than the others?
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>>546356704
Not even trying to moralfag, but is it fun? And if so what's fun about it?
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>>546356620
that hasn't happened to me yet honestly
the only time i got fucked was by a consolenigger
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>>546356819
shields operate as a base % off damage done, so if a single round does 100 its reduced by that %
light ammo hits faster on shielded heavy hits harder on non shielded but right now pvp wise fire rate is the king
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>>546356428
yea its more of a gut instinct thing that you probably wont know how to listen to or what to look for until you put more hours into the game.

right now im just a fuckin retard runnin around collecting scraps. id imagine the game turns completely different when you start treating everyone like an actual enemy instead of lettin that rando in the distance go off and do their own thing.
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>>546356697
>There's also a middle ground where you try to stay away from trouble while remaining ready to fight and trusting your gut when it come to people near you
That's how I do it, I'm awful at PVP and played mostly in duos before duo queues so I ate a lot of shit
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>>546356819
There's no built-in malus, but heavy guns tend to fire slowly which lead to slow TTK
Anvil4 is a bit of an outlier because of the firerate bonus, but I expect that shit to be nerfed
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>>546356819
the only heavy gun that's good for pvp is the anvil, and only when upgraded. well the ferro isn't bad per-se but it's obviously outclassed in most situations by any other gun.
the bullet type only matters for arc really.
the relevant stats for pvp are a mix of damage, firerate, magsize, and accuracy. guns like the stitcher and the venator are standouts for pvp, and those are light/medium respectively
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>>546356967
Not sure how fire rate would affect multiplicative damage reduction, unless the damage is just being rounded up in favor of the attacker.
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I finished the game.
I am just waiting to prestige.
I tried to help randoms, but they're all no mic. assholes.
Is there still room in the KOS gang?
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>>546356864
It is genuinely the most fun I've ever had playing a game. In Tarkov you can only hear them voip for a split second, but in this you get to hear it all
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>>546357180
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>>546355698
Everything is being viewed in a different light now.
>I thought people were responding to my "hello friend" diplomacy chats, but they were just being friendly to me
>I thought that people were responding to me saying "good game" at extraction, but that was them saying "good game" of their own volition
>in some of the hostile encounters, I was the silent red flag guy
>when anon gave me an anvil blueprint the other day, I thanked him in voice chat. Or so I thought.
>Until today, by happenstance, a particularly autistic sounding guy was asking me questions about the Bettina blueprint and it became apparent that he could not hear me at all.
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Whats the point of killing larger Arcs and using things like wolfpacks, once uve upgraded all of ur work bench?

Im about to just sell all of these things. I never feel like killing a giant arc and making a giant scene is ever a relevant play
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>>546357271
yeah ttk is too much for a game paced like this
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>>546357552
I'm not at that stage of the game yet, but from what I gather it's good XP and good money. Which sounds like it could be important for preparing for the wipe.
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>>546357615
There were moments where I called out to people to say that I'm friendly and they didn't respond to me at all. I just assumed that they were extremely chill, but I guess they never even noticed that I was there.
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>>546357563
Everyone treats this like it isn't an extraction shooter with low ttk and runs around like a retard. You should be running between cover/concealment and keeping your stamina bar half full just in case you get shot at. When you approach a building, walk and peak around before opening a door and don't rush in right away. Check corners with third person and THEN go in. If you have a key or are going to loot something that needs to be breached, you place a mines on the nearest 2 entrances. You are just free kills for anyone that isn't retarded unless you make a decent attempt at the things mentioned above
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>>546357552
once your benches are done you've basically won. time to work on getting to space which needs a ton of money and big arcs drop the most
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>>546357552
>>546357631
I will be selling all of mine or just throwing them at the queen when I get bored enough to go fight it legit. You get to max level super quick so xp isn't a concern either
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>>546357563
It's litterally only a problem with guns with +firerate on upgrade
Coming from Tarkov I'm kinda glad not to get OHK constantly
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>>546357710
i think its because it went so carebear for awhile and people dont see much incentive to kill people other than for the luls or some psychopath reason.
keep in mind theres free load outs too which is probably opening up so many branches.
game should have some sort of thing be it meta progress or something to incentive that honestly.
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>>546357547
>when anon gave me an anvil blueprint the other day
I was a little confused when I asked on voip if you just wanted to run around and find some loot or run straight to extract only to hear nothing in response. I hoped I did the right thing by taking you along to some loot spots that were more hidden before we got out
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>>546357552
i think they can drop blueprints
but yeah it's basically zilch and there's better ways to farm anything they can drop (besides their cells/drivers)
the money is good but money is also pointless

>>546357710
>moving carefully but at a sane pace
>checking corners before i expose myself
>take a couple steps into the hallway
>some rat appears around a corner i could not physically check and prefires my head with an anvil
>hop into cover
>get naded
darn, should've known
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>>546357813
I do not miss one shot headshots in the slightest, thank fuck even the railgun can't do it
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>>546357137
just spitballing because I don't actually know how it works but say if having 1% shield still negated 40% of the next hit regardless of damage, then the heavy shot would be more severely impacted than multiple light shots
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>fill squad crossplay, full kit
>first thing I hear on voice
>"shiet i got a rattler"
>"ay kettle let's go"
still had fun with it by letting them die after they decided to pick a fight at tower and listened to them get butthurt but man, if you have anything above a green augment you should not get matched with free kits
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>>546357951
I've been outsmarted a few times while camping, and it usually comes from people that are genuinely careful about things. Most important one that's pretty easy to do is to take the same way in and out of a building. Long hallways are the most deadly place to enter so you need to be fully alert and watching the corner, preferably with a smoke on the quick key
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Rattler should start with 12 mag and reload 3 ammo at a time instead of 2
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>>546357951
>>moving carefully but at a sane pace
>>checking corners before i expose myself
>>take a couple steps into the hallway
>>some rat appears around a corner i could not physically check and prefires my head with an anvil
>>hop into cover
>>get naded
>darn, should've known
extraction shooters still have a long ways to go. this genre still feels like such a half baked mod that never evolved.
hopefully they can think of a way that works for everyone.
personally, more pve and situations where killing people would be disincentivized
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>>546358037
>if having 1% shield still negated 40% of the next hit regardless of damage
It most likely does. I know ARC is praised for its attention to detail, but calculating damage of a single, instant last shot that cracks the shield, by projecting a portion of its damage that goes through, and re-calculating it again, adjusted for no shield, seems like a lot of work, when you can just plug it all into the same simple formula for damage reduction and call it a day.
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>>546357891
You were a great help, and the anvil has been a huge boon. You missed out on me saying things like
>give me a second to change my controls. I have proximity chat bound, but not squad chat
>I'm feeling kind of dumb that I didn't bring a defib with me
I also was concerned that I botched the extract there at the end. When I shot down that wasp and alerted the leaper. It didn't dawn on me until too late that you were going for a melee kill that might have been able to quietly take down the wasp without alerting the leaper.

Thanks again for that anvil blueprint. Also the betinna blueprint that we found. I can't make the bettina yet, and it sounds all around less useful than the anvil, but maybe they'll buff it.
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>>546357951
>>546358238
all characters should glow, give every backpack a glowing doodad
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>>546358037
i do believe shields work in this exact way. the shot that breaks it is still fully mitigated.
so if you slam a 10HP shield with 1x40 damage, you're only doing 24 to body. whereas if you hit then with 4x10 DMG, you're doing 36 to body.
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>>546358107
well with the way shit goes you sometimes cant take your time when they drop you into a game with like 19 minutes left

the take your time thing only works when you're already hours deep into the game with a solid build and mission that doesn't need fuckin literally anything.

i think people need to realize that this game is constantly gettin new players and 200h playtime niggas in this thread dont have the same shit goin on as some nigga like me that is level 10 with level 1 benches.
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>>546358262
>It didn't dawn on me until too late that you were going for a melee kill that might have been able to quietly take down the wasp
I genuinely didn't think of that for even a single moment, I was just goofing around. I climbed on top of it 2-3 times which was pretty neat
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>>546358330
or a low hum from that shields. varying on strength and upgrade the fucking shields so they do something
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Can these fuckers stop expecting people to work hard towards things without showing the rewards? What kinda stuff will I get for Merits? It's the same as them not having revealed the cosmetic rewards for doing this gay ass expedition.
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>>546358330
>all characters should glow, give every backpack a glowing doodad
you jest but shit that keeps people from camping like that yeah. make it a solar flare storm or another type of Arc going on in the universe that gets people glowing and out of cover perhaps?
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>>546358418
Any player staying in a certain area for too long gets a patrol specifically sent after them if outside, or some kind of loud hum starts coming from their pack for whatever contrived reason they can come up with inside
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>>546358389
Now I'm curious if it would even work or not, or if the wasp's death explosion would alert the leaper?
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>>546358330
>>546358394
>>546358418
>shields hum in normal conditions, stronger shield louder hum
>electrostorm shields crackle and give off bright flashes as they resonate with the storm
>ARC evolve to deal with increased raider presence and now there are tick like spider bots that hide in corners that send out pulses that mimic the electrostorm interference
Implement it
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How long till update?
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>>546358238
Could do it like in STALKER
When someone is within a certain range your PDA beeps and you see a number of how many other PDA's are within that radius. At least that way you know for certain someone is in there with you even if you're not sure where.
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>>546358478
Suppressors tend to do the job already, and melee kills on drones are so difficult to set up that it's not worth thinking about.
>wasp's death explosion would alert the leaper?
Pretty sure that's a no, just gunfire/near shots
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>>546358474
think people going on little gay murder hobo sprees should get a bounty on dey ass too

imagine a system that labels a murdering hobo nigga based off a system that tracks circumstances that this guy is an untrustworthy nigga and you should not trust him and it pops up if you're in a certain radiance. make them have flies or stink lines
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>>546358608
That sounds like way too much work and would devolve into reddit tier upvote/downvote players that wrongthink
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>>546358665
>>546358608
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>>546358665
nah it wouldn't be player voted nonsense like
>did this guy mean to you? :(

i think shootin people in the back after being around someone in proximity for a set amount of time could be a trigger
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>>546358557
1 hour.
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>>546358608
>think people going on little gay murder hobo sprees should get a bounty on dey ass too
Unecessary, people will hear the gunshot, see the flare, connect the dots and kill the guy on sight
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My god I've had enough of this "kill a surveyor" goddamn quest
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Do other players see the laser line of your trap?
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>>546358831
Yes
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>>546358794
>kill on sight
well yeah but I would do that anyway regardless.
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>>546358831
Yes
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>>546358820
Det bomb/sticky nades and then shoot right when they go off. I've not had very good luck with showstoppers but some people swear by em
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>>546356513
>Tarkov
lole
Have fun (you wont)
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>>546358794
>you won the fight they started
>third party assumes you started it and murder you
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>>546358794
yeah you wont know that unless you're in one spot watching with binoculars the whole time the fuck? what if you're inside buildings and that shits across the map?
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>>546356513
Don't forget to buy the game again at a mark up for steam
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>>546358748
Finally, curious to see how big the price reduction is, and what are the new "playstyles"
If they're different gamemodes the game is shooting itself hard
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>>546356513
>Tfw 6000h on tarkov and 0 hype for 1.0
think I'll just play stella montis instead
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>>546358912
>>546358820
One Wolfpack kills a surveyor
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>>546359023
Well actually I might be wrong, I know the price adjustments are supposed to be at 10:30 CET. Not sure if the update is gonna accompany that, but maybe?
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>>546359056
A new player should be saving those for killing the more dangerous arcs for their workbench upgrades
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>>546358356
>>546358107
Being careful has its place, but you also need to look at the big picture. Being a bit hasty places you at risk of getting jumped by a rat, but a rat needs to be present in the first place to punish you. For every solo match where some rat tries to jump me, I have a dozen where everyone is friendly. There is wiggle room to accept a degree of loss so long as your net income over time is high enough. Especially since we have a safe pocket to instantly preserve any rare drop of true value.

>Most important one that's pretty easy to do is to take the same way in and out of a building
I'm kind of fond of taking alternative ways out of buildings if I can. Find a window and shoot a zipline out to some new position that give me some cover. Then I don't need to worry about some rat waiting for me to retrace my steps.
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>>546359076
The most dangerous arcs only take 2 wolfpacks
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>>546358820
stalk it a bit and wait for it to open up, throw a couple snap blasts on it before it has a chance to run, finish it with a ferro
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>>546358820
Use a showstopper/hornet driver to stun him and just blast the fucker
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Yesterday I made the mistake of trying to kill a Rocketeer with a single Wolfpack. It wasn't enough and I got smoked. Wish I could find the BP for it. It's annoying having to ass Wolfpacks because you're afraid you might die while trying to kill certain ARC.
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>>546359096
yeah a dude like me isn't going to be a hyper aware of everything going on playing like its a metal gear game when im in the early game just tryin to do quests and get exp

i will not have the luxury of having a full kit of shit like ziplines adrenaline and bolt traps every time i play this.

I almost have 90% of a grasp on the dam map but i just have been avoiding the big red zone in the world the whole time
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>>546359232
Same thing happened to me, so I brought two wolfpacks the next time. It died from one wolfpack
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>>546359232
Just bring one and be ready to shoot it a few times with a ferro if it doesn't die in one. I'd say the one shot is like a 1/3 or 1/4 chance until I figure out how to throw it better than just straight up
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>>546359283
Just freekit and YOLO the red zone every game
No risk
All reward
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I wish we could see our survival rate
Feel like this game is more deadly than Tarkov sometimes
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>>546359428
i got killed tryin to trigger nade a hornet and died because it had back up
i dont know how to use it and i had to press some other button to make it blow up but couldn't figure it out

so i lost my gear and have been freeloading so i can get a ferra4 going again so i can kill the fuckin hornet, and kill a stitch and get its item for the other nonsense quest

i got sidetracked and now im going to bed instead.
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>>546359283
>>546359096
I guess what I'm trying to say is that things depend on my plan for the run. If I'm intending to hit a high-loot zone and use a door key or something, then I'm probably going to booby trap doors behind me and zipline away in a (hopefully) unexpected direction to vanish down the nearest raider hatch. However if I'm doing a lower risk budget build where I'm not risking more valuable gear, then I'm less focused on being a sneaky operator and more focused on snatching what's not bolted down and getting back out again.
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>>546359428
Why do people say free kits have no risk? It's not true. Free kits have no safe pocket, so if you find rare items you'd lose them if you died. The only scenario in which free kit is mostly risk free is questing.
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>>546359562
It's left click to throw the nade, and right click to detonate it after a short arming delay. There are some in the practice range if you want to practice.

You don't need a ferro to kill hornets. If you have good aim then you can snipe their unarmored rear rotors. I think an impact grenade or two should knock them out as well.
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>>546359653
>Why do people say free kits have no risk?
because it's free, you stake nothing and there's no even a cooldown
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>>546359653
The worst thing you have to do to run a freekit is make sure you have enough stash space before starting the raid. It costs not a single item or credit to get into raid and you can run straight to extract with the one or two blue consumables you spawn with and sell the gun and kit after trading it up if you felt like it
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>>546359583
i can see this type of stance going way more solid if the games didn't drop us down in the middle of some raids
dont know why we cant do that. when i see 19 minutes left on the clock coming in yeah i'm going to be fucked tryin to take my time.

shit half the time i say fuck whatever i was going to do because it wanted to spawn me at the water towers
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It is so easy to farm 70k in one lush blooms round just going round the map, people only loot 2/3 common spots but there are baskets near groves, landmarks, minor locations.
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>>546359697
i use the ferra to kill the snitches because they are so high up
i haven't found a good way to do it. I shoot them, and then they kinda see me some fuckin how and then fly away after summoning homies(their homies ended up killing me due to my nade fuck up)

does practice range eat up your ammo there or does it get refurbished after?
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>>546359701
>>546359726
I know it's free, I've used free kits before. Still, the lack of safe pocket is a huge downside if you're gonna be looting. It's also extremely cheap and easy to make a green augment, shield charger and bandages. Also a lot of free kits are KoS niggers. I hope they limit free kit to like once per hour.
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>>546359935
I don't think that it eats up your ammo. If you're concerned about it, just enter the practice range naked. There are bags of infinite bullets in there.
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>>546359935
a shot to two of the wings with a ferro and they go down
you don't lose ammo in practice, and it has more in bags on the range
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>>546359960
I'm not them, but I think that I'm largely inclined to think that in many ways running a budget custom build is better than a freekit build. Freekits are a pretty good way for newfags to amass a starting stockpile of green augments/weapons/shields/healing items. But once you're more established, I don't see the reason to spawn as a freekit when you can pay a pittance to spawn as a budget build.
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Okay so apparently the update does come along with the price adjustments? So 28 mins left.
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>>546359960
honestly, you need like 5 shield recharges and bandages and the shield recharges aren't cheap starting out

so yeah everythings huge budget just so you can keep a pocket item and thats not really worth it.
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>>546359960
Yeah it's so bad for looting or combat in general, but I use it to fuck around like doing parkour.
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I don't actually do any trolling but something I've noticed is that this community (not on 4chan but other sites and places) is very easily to rile up and troll. You do anything with a modicum of effort about pve or pvp and people just start flinging shit at each other
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>>546359960
Gonna agree with >>546360193
Going into raid with free kit levels of no healing/shields is miserable and at that point I'd prefer to have another free kits consumables then to go in with a safe pocket
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>the final skill in the yellow tree is just vaulting cost no stamina now
Seems extremely underwhelming. What even counts as vaulting? Just jumping over waist-high obstacles? Or something more than that?
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>>546359921
betchu its getting nerfed
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>>546360326
Any kand of movement involving grabbing a ledge
I think it also count climbing ladder aswell, but im not sure
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>>546360326
I assume it includes climbing up walls
but yeah still pretty meh
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>finally kill surveyor
>it doesnt drop surveyor vault
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>>546360572
>he doesn't know
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Whose maps are better / more accurate - metaforge or mapgenie?
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Is the game at the point where it's just rich players hunting poors for sport, like in Tarkov?

Asking because I didn't pick up the game at launch due to friends holiday/work shit or whatever and I'm expecting we'll get farmed by the time there's a sale and they'll want to quit (even though there's free kits)
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>>546360842
gear doesnt matter, just run an anvil and stitcher, they're cheap.
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>>546360842
I've been playing since launch but I'm pretty poor because I don't like PvP and I don't have security breach. So my stash is 97% mats.
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the amount of people that think my girl AI voice in-game is real, is concerning

>"hey are u a girl?"
>i shoot someone
>"wow ur so good, ill add u rn!"
>i die
>cya guys!
>"no wait i wanna play with u!"
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>>546360842
it's actually usually the poor players hunting the rich players for sport
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>>546361039
I assume every female voice i hear is just some dude using the voice changer
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>>546361009
Probably some shit where everyone will be pve'ing and teaming up the whole time. Hopefully new arcs in the future are cool
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>get killed by extract camper
>its an anime profile pic 9/10 of the time

Damn watching anime sure does lower your T huh
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>>546360572
I've yet to find one in the runs where I'm actively looking for it (aka am properly equipped to kill one) and it's driving me fucking insane
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>>546361039
They really need to let you preview to best match for your voice, some presets suck with certain voice types from testing quick with my friend
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>>546360572
I once needed two more vaults to upgrade my bench and the first surveyor I'd seen in days only gave me one, the chintzy motherfucker. Used a wolfpack for the guaranteed kill and everything.

>>546360842
More like rich players getting into fights with each other and then suicidal freekits running into the middle of it to shoot and completely fuck over the first person they see, guaranteeing that both of them die as the third guy uses the opportunity to flank and kill both of them. No, I'm not bitter over losing a fully upgraded renegade to this shit the very first raid I took it out.
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>>546361039
there are also kids and women who use the male ai voice to blend in
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What is this AI voice you guys are talking about?
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>>546361582
Game has an option to mask your real voice, 10 presets
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Time to see if embark are still kikes or not
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the subreddit is filled with PvE trannies coping with the fundamentals of an extraction shooter.

this place is no different.
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>>546361840
you are brown, probably don't even return the shopping cart once you're done using it
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the sub4chan is filled with PvP trannies coping with the fundamentals of an extraction shooter.

reddit is no different.
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>patch notes address all of my main complaints right away
Damn, I wish other devs were this competent
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>feel like there is nothing to do once you have all your skill points and bench/chicken upgrades
>still feel the urge to play and cant stop thinking about it while at work
Stupid sexy addiction...
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>>546362027
can you put hats and goggles on other outfits?
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Wolfpack trannies btfo
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WHERES THE UPDATE
>WHERES THE UPDATE
WHERES THE UPDATE
?
they said it should be out by now REE
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You didn't beat the game.
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Well that was easy
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>>546362156
works on my Epic Games Store ;)
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So, what the fuck are merits?
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blaze grenade bros...
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>>546360842
no
the poor players are on ridiculously even footing with rich players
you know how in tarkov all the cheap guns are unreliable pieces of shit, and the guns that are like 400k shooting mags full of like 50k of ammo delete everyone and everything like a hot knife through butter? and stacked with a solid facemask and chest plate, you're fairly resilient against shit ammo?
well in arc raiders, there is nothing like that. none of that is true or comparable in any way.
the cheapest guns in arc raiders perform very well and are capable of reliably dropping any player in their effective range. the most expensive gear in arc raiders barely increases your survival chance, amounting to an extra shot-to-kill or two
it's way more like hunt in this regard. but somehow even less impactful
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>>546361612
Are they actually convincing tho? Been running voice 8 or 9 but wonder if people know I'm not a girl. I dont try to change the way I talk or anything I still call other players wiggers and niggers
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>play game with 2 RL friends
>they both suck absolute ass
>one may as well be wearing his headphones backwards how bad his spatial orientation is
>the other magdumps into me while the enemy shoots him in the back
>lose all my shit in 3 consecutive days playing with them

I can't do this shit no more....
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>>546362454
I'm having fun. I play as bait and my nephew shoots the people looting me.
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Gonna see if I can find myself one of these two
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So where the fuck are the "two new playstyles"?
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>>546362571
matriarch is bigger than the queen so it might be a map specific thing
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Do you know "We Are The World"?
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>>546362510
At least he can hit these shots, with these 2 if I dont land a ferro shot on all 3 enemies we have zero chance of winning the fight before one of them walks face first into a torrente
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>>546362634
u got baited nigga
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>>546362141
jokes on you
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>>546362158
its so fucking over. thank god i just crafted like 20 of those kek
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So... why did Speranza build elevators that emit loud noises and flashing lights attracting ARC robots when activated?
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>>546346257
this guy has the right idea >>546346458
75 levels max
>Stamina in mobility is a must but theres not much mandatory there
>breach speed and half weapon weight in Conditioning
>Loot speed and crafting and carry weight in survival as well as the only 36 point skill worth investing that much in
If you git gud with the expedition you can get more skill points on your next character which is like prestige or new game plus
Personally I would spend a lot more on mobility with whats left over but most of the skills aside from the ones mentioned aren't worth investing in with the scarcity
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They're really leaning into failed star wars concept art huh? What the fuck is this shit
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>Venator, Renegade and Anvil untouched
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>>546346257
>>546362820
OH WIAT CALMING STROLL IS MOSTLY TRASH BECAUSE YOUR DEFAULT MOVE IS JOGGING NOT WALKING YO UGOTTA TOGGLE THAT ON PC
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>>546360842
the difference between a free loadout shield and the highest shield in the game is 2 bullets
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I want to upgrade my cock. The game says olives are found at "nature" spots, but somehow I doubt there are ANY olives in the "nature" spots on the first three maps. Or are there?
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>Improved camera behavior to prevent clipping through walls and objects while jumping.

i just found about glitching through the key gates yesterday ;/
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WHERE THE FUCK IS LONE WOLF AND THE OTHER PLAYSTYLE?
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>>546362974
they're T3 AUGMENT VARIANTS you fat retard
implicitly part of the "new items to discover"
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>>546362842
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now this
is EPIC
there's a shockwave mine in the store as welly
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>>546363128
Ah yes the toilet armor from FO4, it did look familiar
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>>546362571
No luck on dam, although that was expected
>>546362639
Yeah, probably the new map once we get it then
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>>546343142
Right click blind anon, it should even pop up on your screen.
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Is there a comprehensive wiki/guide on all of the loot and what it can be disassembled into?
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>>546363083
Do we know the effects on those?
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>>546362842
I think it's pretty cool
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I will be setting these up at the top of long ladders/ziplines
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>>546362683
Yeah these are pretty wasy to get from barons and probes
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how long will it take them to let us mix and match shit
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>>546354036
Impact grenade will one shot a spotter on a direct hit. Was in the train hole at buried city and the retards came down to me on a free kit, got 3 of them for a cool 15,000
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>>546362683
It's competing with power rods now, rather than being completely free
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what do the merits for this new event do?
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Hunt balanced its weapons around power coming at a cost. Automatic gun? It kicks an INSANE amount, can't hold any extra ammo, and is ultra loud. Huge single target damage? Well, you only get ONE SHOT, so you better not miss, and even if you don't, you are going to be spending a moment just reloading. The only gun I don't like in Hunt is the maynard sniper, and that's just because I think fighting at ranges that the other party can't even hope to engage in is kind of boring. Regardless, each gun felt unique, whether it be its ammo types it can carry, its cost to value ratio, bullet speed, reload, etc.

But then in Arc, half the purples suck, the interesting weapons suck, and a basic taped together sub machine gun obliterates people. And if you do wanna use different weapons, you basically NEED a blueprint to run with it, or it's kind of a big risk. Now, it's not a vague currency you spend like in hunt, you must go get the parts, AND have the blueprint, which if you like a purple gun, good luck.

I think they just need to rework everything. I don't really know of any small or even medium changes that would just fix it. Make the cheap guns too weak, or the strong guns too strong, there's gonna be a power gap where one party most likely just can't do anything, and that would upset a ton of people. But if there ISN'T enough of a power gap, then you must ask yourself, why am I not just using the cheaper stuff? And if you're using the cheaper stuff, what's the entire point of the game? Why do anything?
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>>546362959
I think there are olives somewhere on either dam or buried city but I don't remember where
they're easy to find in the olive garden on blue waffle though
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>>546363878
Hunt had really shit balance masquerading as being decent until you got good enough to realize that mosin (and long ammo guns in general) are the best in almost every way that matters, with everything else being a throw
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>>546363874
From what I read, it's just an event currency that you can use in an upcoming event shop after this stage of the event concludes. I capped it in barely 300 or so plastic/chems turned in, so just knock it out and be done with it when you have the spare basics
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>>546363974
counterpoint: martini henry headshots make my dick explode
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>>546363974
I won't pretend Hunt has great balancing by any means. But at least they tried to reign back in long ammo, usually by utterly gutting its pen and reserve ammo, from what I remember. I used to run around a lot with suuuper cheap loadouts, and had a lot of fun collecting the weapons from other hunters. There's so many aspects to Hunt, that individual gun strength matters a bit less, I think.
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>>546364046
I did it as soon as I logged in, just wondered what they meant
weirdly my stash is still completely full
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rate the drip
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If you go in with an anvil, how much ammo do you take? 1 stack? 2 stack? How often do you start using the second stack of ammo?
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>>546364062
it's cool if you like the hunt, but I would rather AR takes no notes at all from it, I hated that game, none of the guns felt satisfying to use
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>>546364186
60 shots usually
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>>546364187
That's fair! I liked the guns a lot, they were super clunky and that made them risky and fun. I'm not saying that Arc needs to do that, I was just trying to give an example from a game I actually played. I just want Arc to feel good and have purpose.
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>>546364167
you look like the default unity player model in sci fi armor
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>>546364186
more than 40
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who donating excess materials?
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>>546364187
>firing the nitro express, avto, or levering a winnie made you go deaf
It was fun and I will never forget the sound of a sparks firing hitting a headshot
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>>546358051
>pair with a duo in fill
>point out a surveyor
>we manage to kill it
>one of them is on it so fast I can't get through half the loot before he snatches it all up
>ask if he got the vaults because I only need 1
>"sorry there was only 1 vault"
>oh ok
>but I don't believe him
>vision distorts as I think about him taking all the loot
>turn and look up at the rocketeer that just passed by
>shoot it once and hide in the bushes
>they go down quickly
MY PRECIOUS

you could have done something similar anon
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>>546364167
balaclava is KOS
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I need to go to sleep and then wake up and go to work.

By the time im home this fucking event will be done and I wont be able to get any merits. Nice.
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>Montis at 8% already
Oh yeah
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No new quests right now, I already have all 63 done so I guess they are coming with the new map
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>>546364361
Just get the merits NOW if you have even the slightest ammount of common resources
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>>546358238
>extraction shooters still have a long ways to go
sure buddy
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Why do all the cosmetics cost different prices now?
They were all standardized now theyre all a random price
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>>546364426
I wanna do the quests but my god they suck so much ass
>go here
>fetch this
>return
>go to these 2 opposite regions
>find some random item in a red building
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>>546363128
>>546364167
yeah this is Fallout 4 toilet core
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Already got 900/900 Merits. Guess I'm done with that shit.
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>>546364426
they said so yesterday
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>>546364507
Having gone through all of tarkov's quests countless times, this is literally nothing
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>>546364573
I dunno if you're suggesting tarkov quests are hard or what as I've never played it but I'm just saying they're boring as fuck
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well that is underwhelming to say the least.
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>>546364562
If it isn't posted on the steam news/update section or in game, I will literally never see it
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The new fit goes hard desu
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>>546364426
>>546364507
at the end, is it even worth doing all the quests in arc, in terms of blueprints? i recently got that shitty pistol blueprint from the quests but this shit is so boring
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>>546364256
I agree, I think it's just a bit too early to start fucking with stuff when a lot of people haven't even touched the pink guns yet
I do think there are some certain "heavy hitter" weapons that feel totally redundant right now though
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>>546364649
same but people posted it here.
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so how much cheaper are the cash shop outfits now?
did they nerf the shitcher?
buff rattler?
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>>546364615
Tarkov quests are a mix of extremely fucking difficult and slow to grind kill requirements, really annoying fetch quests where you have to get the item and survive with it where you can't just put it up your ass, deliberately trying to find extremely rare items and not dying with them, killing people with garbage weapons and armor that make you prone to get one or two shot by even a new player, and rng bullshit of whether or not a boss or item even spawns
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>>546364723
they gave freekits a rattler with 5 round mag and an indentifiable rainbow flag uniform
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>>546364615
everything about tarkov is total aids, it's difficult to be too hard on this game when you've played tarkov
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So they changed their mind about giving us lone wolf and trailblazer yet? Just new Quest and new Weapons?
Also: I hope you can still donate for merits after Stella Montis is unlocked. Personally I'm at 900, but fuck me, the map is already at 8%, if someone can't play today they're probably gonna miss this phase entirely.
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>>546362141
swapping sensors to motion cores makes sense too since it's more common

Little miffed about the Spotters but it makes sense sine that was a green
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>Fixed a bug which caused some enemies to take more fire damage than intended.

guess you can't cheese the queen anymore.
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>>546364723
looks like 40-50% cheaper
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what are the merits going to do?

I just donated max and got it over with
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>>546364723
things like the riot set are half price because they look fucking awful but the bogwalker seems barely any different in price
the cock hats are still really expensive but I'm not sure I'd pay any price for a cosmetic that I only see when fucking with scrappy
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>>546364861
They also specifically addressed the blaze trap too, so it's double nerfed
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>>546364952
i bought the bogwalker set on day 1 with my deluxebux and got +800 credits back so there's that at least
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>>546362141
I'm glad I noticed how overpriced the spotter relays were
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>>546364661
>balaclava
kos
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>>546362141
>balance changes
>only nerfs
the sw*des are doing it again, aren't they?
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>>546365113
>two primary weapons both filling the same niche
merely pretending
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>>546365113
this guy is fucking LOADED
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>>546365141
ack................
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>>546363381
CONTROL TOWER!
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>nerfed the everliving fuck out of arc killing xp
for what reason
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>>546365209
I reached max level extremely fast, even as a bit of a poopsocker it was too quick for a game that has wipes lmao
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>>546365209
gaming merchant's video of him farming bastions and getting a ton of xp for the kill and the looting
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>>546365113
the arpeggio sucks ass
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>>546365305
>needing a youtuber to tell you this
You need to be 18 years old to post here.
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new set looks prety cool when you take some of silly pieces off. definitely one of the better outfits
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>>546365113
I will never run a true juicer loadout because the mods cost so fucking much, but it is neat to have a pile of rare shit lying around
most blue mods are shit because of ads speed increase, and purples are even worse
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>>546362141
>weakest arc now gives the most xp
I mean xp is kinda useless anyway but still a strange adjustment
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>1000 (One Thousand) Damage
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>14% of the way to the community goal already
>like 95% of the playerbase probably haven't even updated yet
I think they underestimated us
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>>546365561
stack em with lightweight stock to offset
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>>546365351
level 4 arp oinks the bussy
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The new skin is cool, but I will hold out for this one... You'll not take my deluxe coins yet...
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>>546364408
we getting there before weekend
bet devs expected a week for this shit lmao
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does anyone have a pic where i can farm blueprints (specifically anvil)
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>community progress went back from 8% to 1%
kek
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>>546366053
the true swede experience
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>>546366053
Its helldivers all over again
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>>546366053
It's like I'm really back on Hellmire
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>>546364782
>It's just been nerfed.
called it.
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>>546366053
mine reads 14%
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>>546366053
Joel sends his regards
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>>546366053
>Check it
>It's true
lol, lmao even
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>>546366053
They COMPLETELY underestimated how much people would donate
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so we aint getting a little backpack charm or something for completing our merit?
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>>546366164
click play
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>>546366256
Rewards are next phase apparently.
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>>546366247
yep. and now they are being little bitches
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>>546366265
oof kek
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donate faster motherfuckers
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>>546366247
they underestimated a lot with this game. i dont think they were anywhere near prepared for 800k concurrent players. i think thats the main reason why they decreased the cost of cosmetics... they really just dont need them to be so expensive and will likely make more money from players at a lower pricepoint kek.
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>OCE has become kill on sight on every map outside of Dam
>and it's all teenage kiwi players
It's open season on anything that moves, and I'm here for it
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>>546366473
australians and kiwis are the most dickass players in every game what did you expect
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>fight arc on the rooftop for the hiddenbunker antenna thing
>r*cketeer decides to join the fight
>blows me the fuck out of the water
rip
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wolfpacks are actually easier to make now if you actually use them
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Game has too much trash
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>>546366542
Alright flip calm down
Of course we're sweaty cunts, it's hot as balls down here
...and we're a tiny gaming ecosystem
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>>546366597
no
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>>546366651
all you need is oil and motion cores, i never really got to places where i got sensors, motion cores will drop from every big arc.
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>>546366846
You get an infinite supply of sensors by looting any electrical loot area even once. Having to deliberately kill large arcs and loot them or do barons/probes is a hell of a lot more effort
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>>546366597
I still need to get to explosives 3 unless they dropped that req too
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>>546366654
apparently
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>>546366654
yes.
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>>546366950
freekitting this mf rn
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>>546366950
>giant enemy crab
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>>546367000
Godspeed, post some screenshots/webms
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>>546366894
Not to mention the fact that you usually USE your wolves to kill large arcs.
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>>546367000
atleast take a ferro with some impact nades you bum
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>>546340891
>>546340717
where did you get those nade bps?
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>>546366053
I hate swedes so much its unreal
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>they aren't giving me my queen kill
this is BULLSHIT. i dont have the funds or teammates to do that again
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>>546362141
This kinda suggests that Bombardier and Bastion are supposed to be ...easier? than Rocketeer and Leaper? Rocketeer I get, but I thought Leapers were actually easy (with fire damage)?
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>>546367215
>also made hullcracker ammo more expensive
I wish I had done it before now as well
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Played Specc Ops recently. Now every time someone kills me in PvP without me fighting back I ask them: "Do you feel like a hero yet?"
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>>546367245
I always found rocketeers and leapers harder. I just used blazes on the bastion/bombardier and wolfpacks for the leaper and rocketeer
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>>546367123
BPs generally drop from 'raider' containers. these are the loot containers that look like bags or cases. so medbags, grenade tubes, etc. etc.
explore and find them, then construct a path to check as many as possible. i think there's a higher chance behind breaches and keycard doors but i'm not 100% on that
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>>546367032
>>546366950
she wasnt there for some reason
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Went to blue gate to check out the matriarch event
There was absolutely no matriarch to be seen
Between this, the progress revert and the lack of weapon balance I'm starting to get HD2 flashbacks
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Wtf did they hotfix? 40% more player aggressiveness? I've been doing quests literally naked with no kit, and multiple times now people started hunting me down, why following fucking footsteps in the sand, lmao. Bro I'm neither a danger to you, nor do I even have a free kit you can loot.
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>lay of the land
This quest is aids lmao
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>no weapon balance
>no hp/shield buff
>xp farm nerfed with both damage, scavenging, and launcher ammo costing more
Well this update kind of sucks. How's the new map?
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>Hear Rocketeer shooting rockets 500m away
>Now you cant hear someone running down the hallway
The audio is cool but so fucking trash gameplay-wise.
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oh well blops 7 just came out. later nerds
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>>546367513
its either bugged or they're making it a low chance spawn or something.
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>>546367669
>no fun allowed
the swedes should know better. helldivers 2 been there too
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>>546367907
thank god for that
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>>546367451
yeah same for us on OCE
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So what are the merits? Also I was hype for the new map, but it's just Gates of AQ all over again...
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>see pulse mines in shop
>want to knock people all the way down the dam control tower for fun
>never PvP, feels too bad aggressing on others
>rationalize to myself that if they're going there during a night raid, its all out PvP
>set up the mines, even leave the turrets in elevator shaft for effect
>wait for like 20 minutes straight
>finally someone appears
>it knocks him to the side instead of back
>lose all will
>"I'm gonna be real, you were supposed to fall down the elevator shaft."
>walk out infront of him with my weapon holstered
>he starts ADing out of panic because he's bandaging from the turrets
>"Yeah I messed up, I'm just gonna go, seeya man."
>he doesn't fire, I just bolt down the shaft and extract
I'm not cut out for this kind of work.
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>>546367416
i have bneen hitting containers for days and all i am getting are bettina, anvil bps
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>>546368074
people need to drop in enough materials to unlock the new map
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>>546368074
it's something u use next phase to buy sthit probably
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Im 30h in and i already feel this game has nothing left to offer for me.
When does the PVP get good?
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>>546368228
For you, when you start winning
For me, when they nerf the fucking venator
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>>546367848
I can hear players inside, especially running when there is a rocketeer right outside with my headset on, headset off I can't hear footsteps at all

>>546368228
hidden bunker and night raids are pretty fun and more challenging
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Matriarch literally doesn't spawn btw
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>>546368126
unfortunately there is that element of chance
they mentioned in the patch notes they tweaked blueprint drops, so you might have better odds going forward
they really should let you reroll for random a blueprint. like let you recycle into fragment that can be crafted into a random blueprint, or just directly let you roll like 3 of them for 1 random one
just something to make getting them more consistent
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>>546368074
I'm betting if all 460k concurrent players all donated every single thing it wouldn't go up at all. This is just a "new map isnt ready yet, but we want to make people hype" marketing tactic isn't it?
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>No weapon balancing
What the fuck you retarded swedes? Weapon power is in such a shit state right now and not a single nerf/buff? Fuck you retards.
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>>546368054
>more oce fags
MAN
I wish I could solo queue into group raids without having to auto-fill
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jolt mines are fucking broken
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>>546367570
Every quest with "in one round" is, because apparently you must extract or it'd fail. Just what you fucking needed on the EU server where a lot of people are trigger happy dickheads, looking for fucking quest objectives. There ain't no way I'm redoing these a second time.
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I am donating 10,000 of each material required currently, the map will be open within the hour
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>>546368537
I got there eventually
Also fuck I wish you could sell directly from this screen in the same way Tarkov lets me dump loot into Fence as a scav

>>546368603
>is going to press E 10,000 times
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>>546368526
Seeing the other person first is broken.

Honestly, the TTK is way too low, the PVP never feels like a sport - it's just luck of the draw.
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will someone please post the new goyslop from the shop? (^_^)y-~~~
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So what are the "Merit" rewards going to be
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>>546368649
The more I play the more I realize that first-shot advantage is actually busted as hell in this game, you're basically fucked if someone gets the drop on you at close-ish range, and it's dirt cheap to pull off effectively. Open with a ferro shot, then bum rush them with a close-range weapon like the sticher, and there's basically nothing most people can do because you'll have a massive HP advantage and can just tank any shots they'll trade with you.
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>>546368854
Here you go, senpai.
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>>546367981
It's different for a PvE game. At worst the game is too easy. It's not as big a deal if a vast majority of weapons are inferior because you can still kill AI and a shitty weapon doesn't impact you as much. Here, having one gun dominate the meta and getting murked because the weapons are overtuned AND losing whatever you had on you is not cool. In HD2, a shitty weapon can still bugs. Here, if you go up against any competent with a good weapon while youre using the benita, youre gonna get pissed off when you die to it. Not to mention the greys vastly outperforming the pinks fucks the entire progression system and looting balance too.
Everyone in social media has been complaining about weapon balance and these guys cant even change one single thing? Thats bad.
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finally got all quests done
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man they need to introduce dynamic loot or this game is going to be a pain
>late in the raid
>go to that one loot spot near grandioso apartments on buried city
>3 dead freekits inside
and at night that place is a battlefield
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>>546368603
thx cuck, i have donated the minimum and will be enjoying the map with minimal effort kek
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>>546368948
I think the big problem is that TTK is way too low. I realize you literally get one-tapped in other games, but it's not a big much longer TTK getting ferro'ed/anvil'ed + sticher. I think they need to nerf a lot of weapons desu. Because if they go and try to buff the underpowered weapons, then the TTK goes out the window.
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>>546368975
I wish.
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>>546368649
>>546368948
maybe stop being a jew an use decent armor, take cover after being shot instead of shooting back, minimize time when your away from cover

if you spot someone first is an advantage in every shooter what the fuck is this reddit?
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>>546369118
just fucking nerf freekits and all the retardation will end. give them even less inventory and only a rattler 1, they should be at the mercy of anyone not running frigger loadout.
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>have to bring a specific green pistol to a drop point for a quest.
>the quest reward is the BP for said weapon
W-what if you get killed bringing it there? You can't butt-store guns. Are you just fucked until you random loot a fucking Burletta, lmao?
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daily reminder, its a little bit of a controversial truth nuke…but the truth hurts, so here goes

free kits should spawn with two weapons

there, I said it
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>>546369304
It's a green weapon, you'll find more eventually
Hell you can just buy one for cheap
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>>546369304
theres a few quests that require you to use keys aswell, but you can safepocket those. and a few quests that have you take wires to fix things.
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>>546367123
cabinets in buried city night, I managed to grab a defensive mk2 shield BP from it too, you just have to find your place to loot place
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>>546369268
Free kits need a cooldown
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>>546369380
lol, not only should that not be a thing, you should also have a free kit daily limit, maybe 3-5
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>excitedly log on to partake in the new quests
>turns out its just a glorified timegate that involved donating a few basic mats

wow, well that was fucking nothing, game continues to be devoid of content guess back to extraction camping
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Did they fuck with the live event progress? It's still 1%.
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>>546369637
>>546369642
if you give the shit-tier friggers unlimited shit-tier frigger loadouts (rattler 1 only, tiny inventory) they would eventually quit the game due to only being fucked over every match, making the game better as a whole
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>>546369256
>stop being a jew an use decent armor
Damn nigga now him equipping the best armor in the game increased the amount of bullets a stitcher, the cheapest submachine, takes to kill by
>2
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>dude opens up with a venator as I run in
>I voip "Venator? Really?"
>he voips "Friendly?"
>"Well not now I'm not"
>leave him on 5 fucking HP
I HATE STITCHERS SO MUCH
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>>546369709
they 100xed the requirements because they remembered they have 400k players and we got to 10% in 30 minutes
p.s. the new boss event doesn't spawn
TELL THEM THANK YOU
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>>546369843
venatorfag? your response?
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>>546368854
For real, this time.
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>>546369923
Hey I like the Venator, but he shot me in the fucking legs instead of twice in the head
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>>546369256
>use decent armor
>when the boomsticks everyone is using insta-crack light/medium shields and chips for nearly half your health on top
>when no one is using heavy shields because they're total ass for not much gain
Stopped reading there.
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>>546369843
I don't get it, what's wrong with the venator? Is it just because it's strong?
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>>546369843
>using a stitcher
>complaining about a winator
lmfao you're no better
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>>546369843
>didn't suicide rush with hammer
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>>546369685
Imagine spending over 100 hours over the course of two weeks playing a game and then having the audacity to say it's "devoid of content." You fucking incel neet scourge on society, you disgusting little cretin, you loser, you faggot, you bitch made nigger, you're a fucking parasite and you should go look in the mirror right now, say what benefit you give to the world by existing, and then, once you inevitably come to the conclusion that you're nothing, that you're a festering wound on the greatness of humanity, then, just maybe, you'll have the strength to do what you need to do.
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>play the blue gate event
>stay until 0 seconds
>not a single matriarch seen
We had like 12 dudes running around, even more than I've seen doing bunker together.
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>>546370159
think we were probably in that together if someone flame naded last second. no clue, guessing shit's bugged because we tried everything short of killing every arc on the map.
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>>546370159
teehee uhoh oopsie we just didn't bother to test our big update at all uwu
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>>546370217
nta but I was in a lobby where like 12 guys all piled into the same extract.
I threw a heavy fuse and someone threw a flame.
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>>546369935
booo i was hoping for something interesting and not some random schizofascist shit
kill yourself immediately!!!
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>>546370480
>schizofascist
aw sweet I'm interacting with a completely deranged individual
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>>546370115
professional corporate defender has logged on
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all you need is a stitcher 2 and a green extended mag and you outperform the trannator 4
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the matriarch event is gone and nobody has seen a matriarch yet lol
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>need to kill queen again for the achi
bitches, taking her down once was already a risk and a gamble. Can't wait for a rat to backstab me
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>load with an Arpeggio because medium ammo feat
>get outplayed by a newbie KoSnigger with a Rattler
Just recycled all my Arpeggios and reconnected my mic so I can talk shit to those rats.
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Boy! I sure am glad that every quest is shitting up my inventory with binoculars that I'm totally gonna take into a match!!
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>>546369793
>getting soloed by a stitcher in medium armor
>>546370001
ferro doesn't crack a medium shield in one shot, not sure about headshot, you would know if you tried them instead of hoarding your shields
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Rocketeers no longer affected by showstoppers? I hit one dead on, got the lightning affect and everything, didnt drop.
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>>546371231
the show must go on
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>>546368649
That's because the HP pool and shields are way too low in this game.
You should't go from 100% to 0 from 3-4 Anvil shots.
Both HP and shield values should be like 150% of their current value to make PvP somewhat fair, so you actually have a chance to take cover and get some heal before engaging in a gunfight.
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>>546364315
Anon... how many Vaults did he have?
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>>546369380
yeah and the weapons should be locked to rattler and hairpin
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>map still at 1% even though im assuming nearly everyone donated enough to get 900 merits (whatever those are)
Yeah this shit aint unlocking for months, the map isnt even done i bet
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>>546371278
git gud
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>>546371156
just sell them retard
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>had a friendly interaction with a dude with only a buttpocket to his name in night buried city
I have never seen someone so based
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>call ARC down on top of bastion with a snitch core
>shoot them so they all explode and damage the bastion
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>>546371278
learn to roll on taking a hit and you will be getting your time to turn things around as long as they aren't literally in your face already
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>trying to zipline to the galleria sign
This is FUCKED
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man i thought i'd have something to do because of the update but there is no new content playable yet.
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>>546371678
Fucking obviously you double nigger. I wasn't sitting here going: "gee, I wish there was some way to remove items from your inventory" I was complaining about the fact that quests tend to spam you with useless shit that you then have to fish out of your inventory, you troglodyte.
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>play solo
>loot loot loot
>as soon as I hear someone go into crouch and camp until I can magdump them
>sit in a corner crouched for a minute to see if anyone else is coming after I kill them
>continue on my way

The truly optimal way to play
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>>546372113
dead game, Dad Game, currently only good if you have only 3-4 hours to play a week

should be F2P imo
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>>546342057
Where is this screen?
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>>546372394
Tarkov player moment
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>Blue Gate
>just came in to do a quest
>call elevator
>some faggot is like "come out with your hands up"
>say "just extract, i don't even have loot you dumbass"
>he starts shooting me inside the elevator
>smoke him with my Kettle II
>he screams into the mic
>tell him "fuck you dumbass"
Bro had no chill
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>security breach nerfed
Just confirmed by a discord community guy.
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>>546344706
lmfao that’s more times being knocked out than I’ve had in 30 hours of play
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OH MY GOD THE FUCKING BUGGED ASS ELEVATOR WIRE THREE TIMES i'M ON THE GROUND AND LATCHING ONTO IT AND IT GRABS IT AND DRIVES ME DOWN AND THE FIREBALL SHIT KILLS ME
DUDEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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>>546371278
On top of that, its mostly the level design at fault. Well actually the sound too, its very easy to get ambushed in this. There are no sound traps like in other games like this.
It is just not a very satisfying pvp game.
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>>546350159
nice except for the helmet
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>>546372518
Never played Tarkov in my life, it's just what the game made me play like
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>renegade
This thing kinda fucks
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>>546373356
>There are no sound traps like in other games like this.
what
yes there are
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>>546351146
never hopefully
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>>546371467
America isn't even awake yet
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>>546373410
if all you do is kill wasps maybe
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>>546372206
>Oh no the game is giving me money for no effort
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>>546373531
East coast is 8am and I'm a night auditor off in 2 hours
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>>546371467
it was at 11% like the first minute, its just gonna be done when the devs want it to be.
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>use grey weapons
>never see anyone and when I do have to fight I win
>use upgraded blue weapons with mods to enjoy the fruits of labor and also get rid of all these stacks of medium ammo
>get wrekt before I even see the guy
It was funny the first few times but this is ridiculous. I just want to see what a torrente does to a person
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>>546373617
Which means fuckall and doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the playerbase hasn't even updated their game yet, let alone dumped their mats
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>28gb update
Wtf
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>>546366408
For real, they put the cosmetics to guarantee that they would recover the money invested, didn't expect the game would blow .
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Adjusted them to make them more common in caches, right?
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just found a bobcat blueprint in a car when looking for lightbulbs
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>devs increase the overall amount of resources required to unlock stella montis because at this rate it would be open in 2 hours before 95% of players even log on to donate
>THEY'RE LITERALLY DELETING OUR PROGRESS A SECOND ARROWHEAD HAS HIT THE SWEDEN

>>546374476
The very next line says Raider Caches. So what is a Raider Container? Those bags that spawn in set locations? Or is it translation fuckery.
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>>546368475
Classic swedish bullshittery
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>>546374669
i presume raider containers is the shit that's not metal crates, electrical panels, etc. etc.
stuff that clearly isn't lying there from the old world but are the bags and cases with equipment, ammo, meds, etc
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anyone with security breach notice the loot table become a lot worse since the update?
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So what now?
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>>546373439
There are but not outside that are useful.
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>good spawn location, get to control tower before anyone else
>plant mines so no one sneaks up on me
>good haul of loot
>head to hatch
>realize I forgot to pick up my mines before I left
Oops sorry Raiders
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>>546358389
How many baggies play this game..
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2%! Whoooo! Here we go booooois!!!
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>>546374878
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1ow0fd2/security_lockers_have_been_nerfed/
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>>546374878
>>546376143
Slowsisters: >>546373060
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>>546376267
you need to provide source fastsister, can't believe half the shit you read on 4chan
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Are bettina BPs no longer >50% of the BP loot table?
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>>546374878
good
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>>546376143
The absolute fucking seethe in the replies. This shit is retarded and they should've gotten rid of it and replaced it with something else before the game even went live, this talent is fucking retarded.
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what WERE they THINKING with this """live event""
>run live event where players contribute materials
>players contribute materials
>oh god oh fuck players are actually contributing materials
>the map is either not done
>or they want wagies and dad gamers a chance to contribute
>reset the counter and turn it into a glorified timer
there's nothing organic about this
I'm sure they'll be manually adjusting the amount it needs when they feel ready to release the map
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>Field crafting selection now stays on the same item after crafting.

based, that was my suggestion
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>>546377005
it has gone up to 2% again so maybe it is live after all.
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How high should I upgrade my guns? What should I run if I have a decent amount of credits and materials? I'd like to be prepared for maybe 3-5 raids at all times
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>>546375097
>get all 4 keys
>have no idea what happened after and the round ended 2 minutes later
Sick event, 10/10 would waste my time again
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>>546376143
It costs 36 talent points before you can even open the things. They should provide items of value
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>>546376985
>hey the map wasn't ready yet, please allow us 3 more weeks to fi- I mean, we really wanted all the dad gamers to experience the bliss of donating metal scrap and plastic bottles to the fund!
What the fuck are these people retarded? Everyone can clearly see what that really means. No one gains anything by donating random garbage to a timegated and locked "event" lmao
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>>546377005
They want to give everyone a chance to earn the merit points. It's not a fucking criminal conspiracy. You people act like hysterical women.
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>>546377280
>You people act like hysterical women.
maybe I am, what are you going to do about it big boy?
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>>546376143
>stealth nerf security lockers
>rocketeers no longer getting affected by showstopper
>event is just a timegate that the devs can change at a whim because they aren't done with the content
>the matriarch doesn't exist, neither does the other new arc
>probably stealth balance changes as well we haven't noticed yet
What the fuck is the point of patch notes? Imagine spending all that time leveling up security breach, just to find out things were stealth nerfed before you could even get there. What a joke. No resetting your skills chuddie!
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>>546377280
Issue there is they failed to calculate the numbers in advance.
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were there always 2 rocketeers at pilgrims peak?
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what are you even supposed to do when you make a game and its 10x more successful than you aimed for
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post 'nations
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>>546376143
>>546377389
>>546373060
fucking retarded, do they at least keep the loot good enough to spawn a BP?
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>>546376143
Why is such a major change to 36 points of commitment not in the patch notes? Why are swedish devs always ALWAYS so fucking terrible at including all their changes in patch notes? What the fuck
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>>546377450
On events yeah, it sucked trying to get there with the key on night raids. Are you the guy I watched get blasted in the ass with anvil3?
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How badly did blaze grenades get fucked? How many does it take to drop a leaper or bastion now?
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>>546377594
Probably only at night :^)
The locker thing seems so dumb. They were spread out pretty far, you had to know the spots to get them, it took 37 levels to unlock it, and if you rushed it you were giving up pvp survivability and movement, AND they were PvP hotspots. I think the loot in them was justified being that good. No
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>>546377575
why are you so poor?
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>>546377709
>he doesn't have stash filled with better items
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Did someone press the "turn on deathmatch" button? soloing was carebear city before, but now literally everyone I found was hostile, had to kill like 5 fucking freekitters just to do a quest lmao
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>cosmetics and hundles are almost half the price they used to be before the cut
pleasantly surprised
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So with security breach nerfed does that mean there isn't a single capstone skill worth taking at all in this game? The skill tree feels so pointless besides max stamina and max carry weight.
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>>546377704
what about the one near control tower zip at the dam?
you know on the bridges, that's not much of a PVP spot
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>>546377775
1. You're lying
2. post pics
3. you're still poor
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>>546377814
Nothing except faster looting/breaching and the stamina perks are really worth anything.

Kinda wild they just nerf shit mid-season when there's no respec option until the expedition in decemeber.
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>>546377598
The path of exile devs took some time to learn this, the community had to massacre them for some years.
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>>546377614
no
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>>546378118
Heavier carry weight is pretty good too, at 5 points its like 10 points
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>>546367907
>>546368007
goddamn that game sucks ASS.
back to ACK raiders it is
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So what's the point of locked gate? we opened it but everything seemed pretty normal. even did the battery puzzle in security wing.
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How bad is the security locker nerf? I typically found one, maybe two weapons in it. It was better than a regular weapon case but not by all that much.
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Where the fuck can I get rusted gears quickly?
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>>546378118
some of the mobility stuff would make a good replacement like the no stamina vault and jump after vault has some appeal but there's not much appeal for the conditioning tree still
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As always Swedecucks ruin their game by knee-jerk nerfs and patches. It's helldivers all over again.
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>>546378336
Inside buses, cars, look for containers that look rusted.
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>>546378315
pretty garbage. didnt get a single weapon in 3 lockers
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>>546378424
>no my loot routes
you're too dependent on security lockers. its made you weak
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>>546378424
Swedes ruin everything
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>>546377789
No one else experiencing this shit? Never had a solo match become such a bloodbath
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who /donatin/ here
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>>546378443
Ty
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I can't stop arcing
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>>546378336
Go to Dam battlegrounds. At the northern extract there's two busses that have a breachable trunk. I always find at least one gear there every two runs.
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>>546378549
only donated 600 shekels
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>>546378484
I've already won the game anon. My stash is full of purple shit and everything is maxed. I'm just waiting for the expedition now while blowing up people at the extract button.
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anyone else get a bug where you can't move your character at all besides rolling and jumping? I was playing with my squad and killing lots of people on buried shitty night raid and then i got downed oin top of some stairs that also had sand on it, but I got defibbed and when I was standing up it looked like i was floating in mid air a little bit off the ground and I couldn't move my character with WASD at all. this persisted until I rolled to the metro and left. Climbing ladders, downing myself again with grenades, falling off of ledges didn't fix this state. nice update
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>>546377813
Did they reimburse the people who bought them when they were more expensive?
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>>546378970
Yes
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>>546377271
at the speed it launched it would have been over before I even got back from work
it was at 8% 10 minutes into the event ffs
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>dam annex night, have 2 keys so i get both doors
>not a single BP
Is there anything more sad in this world? You don't need purple weapons in this cocking game.
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>>546379112
Based. I might get the aviator or astronaut one then
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>>546379378
Astronaut is uber cheap now comparatively, it's like 800 points iirc
Driftcoat or whatever barely improved, 100 point discount. Which is too bad since it's the one I got
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>>546378741
i had that after sliding behind a rock for cover
went away after i extracted/restarted
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im really just not good at aiming. why do i miss so much? i have someone dead to rights and i miss every single shot, then he talks shit as if its some sort of moral victory. its literally just a game dude.
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>>546377575
I only donated enough for the 900 merits
can't be bothered with dumping mats into this thing if it's entirely controlled by the devs anyway
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>>546379609
he talks shit as if it is a regular victory, which it is, you lost lol
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>>546379609
just point and click bro
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>>546379758
i dont understand normies at all
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>>546379112
>>546379378
>>546379504
Honestly, I might have bought something if they didn't do this dumb fucking secondary currency bullshit. I already have a currency, it's called dollars. Don't fucking nickle and dime me, by selling me a god damn skin bundle for 1500 COINS but you can only buy coins in increments of 500, 1150, 6250, and 13k (lmao). I hate this fucking bullshit and I wish it was made illegal.
This has ZERO upside to the consumer. it's JUST there to fuck you over.
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>>546379609
Grenades are a bad shot's best friend
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>>546379886
>win
>mock opponent
you don't have to be a normie to get that
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>>546379609
Lead shots. Use cover. Crouch. Stop moving. Practice more with free kits. Git gud. You won't win every gun fight in this game. You just won't.
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>friendly lobby opening locked gate
>bastion behind the door as soon as we open it
>some guy walks in front of me mid-magdump and eats a bullet to the back of the head
>dies
>already used the 3 defibs I brought with me
sorry brother but crouch if you're going to walk in front of people firing like that
or don't do that
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>stuck drawing porn
ahhh I wanna playyy
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I just had my sweatiest solo queue ever, what the fuck is going on, everyone had 0 chill
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>>546379985
why would you mock your opponent? i dont get it.
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>>546380116
competitive spirit/sense of superiority
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>>546379923
Well you can get coins for free from the Raider deck thoughbeit
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>>546380309
it's like 800 and it's the only free deck, you can only buy the shittest skins with that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NKKmygp6EE

comfy arc stream with our guy t2darlantan
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>>546379609
ex-fps player here. 9 times out of 10 if someone really fucking sucks with aiming, their shit is set up wrong.
For greatest aiming you want:
>a high mouse DPI
the higher the mouse DPI the more "steps" it takes per second, the "smoother" it becomes.
>low sensitivity in game
This is where we actually switch how fast you aim around. We want this to be relatively low. If you can turn around by flicking your wrist, it is too high.
>large surface
We want a large mouse pad / mat, because our mouse movements are supposed to come from our arm, not our wrist.
Again now: make sure you aim with your arm, not with your wrist, make sure the sensitivy is not too high, you want to be able to control it, and then just practice.
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>>546380067
May I see it?
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>>546380067
i just finished drawing mine, i can now play arc, just kidding, im kinda mad at this update and dont care
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>>546380418
>our guy
nigger
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>>546380391
>it's the only free deck
For now
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>>546380418
kys self promoting nigger
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>he didn't get his free 500 apology coins
bricked
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>>546380647
Have they said ANYTHING about giving us more free decks AT ALL?
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>>546380250
i guess i dont see the point. seems like it just makes everyone mad and no one ends up feeling good. you already won, isnt winning enough? thats the part i dont get. i think ill just turn off voice chat in this game. sick of hearing other peoples voices anyway. theres literally nothing i need to hear from someone else.
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>>546379886
>normies
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>>546380309
Anon, they could still do that. those are not mutually exclusive. You could give a token price, and a dollar price. and then it's "you can either pay us 15 bucks for this skin, or you can farm 2 and a half seasons of free battle pass rewards, and buy it for tokens". alternatively, the tokens could still represent a flat dollar reduction. every 100 tokens = 1 dollar off and you can apply your tokens like a coupon code at a store checkout.
Changing the ability to buy tokens to buy items with to just letting you buy items directly doesn't mean they also now can not possibly give you free shit any more.
See that's the fucking psychological bullshit they pull on you. They drip feed you 800 free tokens, and then make you spend 10 bucks to buy a thousand more for a skin, and now you think you saved money, when in actuality you've just given them 10 bucks.
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>>546380497
>>546380652
>>546380665
samefag
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>>546380765
>seems like it just makes everyone mad and no one ends up feeling good
it makes you mad, not the one doing the mocking. the mocker usually feels good
I think you're projecting what you are feeling as the "victim" into everyone involved
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>>546380067
post some
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>>546380765
>isnt winning enough
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>>546380870
>tourist doesn't understand how post timers work
you're just outing yourself even more retard
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>>546380871
what, other people dont get annoyed when someone talks shit to them? i find that really really unlikely kek. i dont do any shit talking myself because it doesnt make me feel good, so maybe theres no point in communicating with anyone in this game.
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>>546380870
faggotfag
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I LOVE spawning on the opposite side of the map from the quest objective with just 15 minutes left on the raid :))
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>>546380939
>>546380991
samefag
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>>546380973
personally i just laugh and then secretly think about it for a few days wondering if i could've handled it differently
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>>546380870
I went in there and you had 3 viewers, I'm going to log in now just to give you a dislike.
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can you two get a room already
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>>546380973
I meant that the mocker usually feels quite good, I dunno how you managed to not understand that
I don't really do trash talking I just feel good by being spiteful (aka making sure whoever shot me isnt just KOd but is actually dead before I do anything else, usually to my detriment)
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>nerf skill tree with no respecs
>abhorrent netcode untouched
This game is going to implode
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>>546380464
>>546380881
sorry bros it's furfaggotry (straight), you don't wanna see it
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>>546379609
because you need to improve
you can do a lot to improve the context in which you're fighting, but as far as executing the mechanical bits of aim, there is really one answer: practice.
whether that's finding a game you like with a DM mode or otherwise fast and frequent fights, or by booting up an aim trainer and running through some actually good challenging playlists as part of a routine, fundamentally it's just a skill like any other and you must learn through repetition

>>546380419
also good advice
low sens big pad arm aiming greatly compensates for poor mouse control which most bad aimers principally struggle with, without a doubt
though i'd nitpick and say high DPI is not a must. most CS pros for example are 400-800 DPI, it's just not necessary to go much higher and can make using the desktop annoying as hell
and i'd get a layer more autistic about including your wrist and fingers with your arm in aiming being a good thing but that's not appropriate advice given the context. like telling someone high-level motorbike control technique when you're trying to hook them up with a solid bicycle. or something. i don't know i'm not an analogist
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>>546380739
Yes
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>>546381284
I don't believe you.
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>>546381238
Unless it's actual gay stuff, post it anyway.
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>>546341406
It does not track shit, it shows last people who interacted with you via proximity chat. Easiest proof - kill someone you spoke with, and you will see his name there for the whole remainder of the match.
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>>546380995
You should be able to keep your kit if you surrender immediately after spawning in. Spawning in like that and having to head straight to extraction is such a waste of time
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>>546381238
I also drew furry porn (its of my OC), very funny.
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>>546381238
so long as its not fagshit I'm curious
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>>546381134
yeah but when you die, someone is gonna mock you, and its more likely to happen because you yourself engage in the behavior. youre indirectly causing yourself to feel bad by making others feel bad and making the behavior more common. thats what i meant about why the mocker also eventually feels bad, because he isnt winning 100% of the time himself. it just doesnt make sense to me, but again, normies are strange creatures.
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>>546381445
>>546381402
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I've been reading George Orwell in between rounds and I'm almost finished with 1984. Which kino should I read next? Animal Farm?
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>>546381518
Are you ignoring on purpose the second half of all my posts you fucking mongoloid?
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>>546381238
POST AND BE JUDGED FOR YOUR ARTISTIC MERIT
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>>546381394
>shitty pissy baby whiner is too retarded to look up information about the game he plays
Open wide baby boy, here's a little tease
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>having a good round
>several kills
>slip and fall for one tiny mistake
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>looting mk 3 survivor has a better passive than cautious
>has more butthole slots
>let's you equip a medium shield too
damn
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>>546381681
Welp ok, I deserve that
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>>546381238
Did I stutter?
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>>546381512
>>546381640
>>546381402
it's not done yet, I can post some older stuff
https://files.catbox.moe/gqyua8.png
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>>546381721
ive had some embarassing moments falling to death while farming big arcs
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>>546381809
>Rouge
Shit nigga that's socially acceptable furshit, hot
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>>546381809
good stuff man
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>>546381809
>sonic
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>spend 3 raids trying to herd sheep so we can open the locked underground blue gate gimmick
>finally get a raid where people listen and spread out to the key locations
>it's literally the exact same once we get in, no rarer loot or anything
this is lame as shit.
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>>546381809
Yeah that's good shit, I would share that with the guy that keeps sharing amy/rouge stuff with me unsolicited. Love me some inverted nipples too.
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>>546382070
fine have something else
https://files.catbox.moe/tlwbiv.png
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>load in late at spaceport
>right when I load in I can hear someone call an elevator
>run straight to it and kill the guy
>take all his shit and extract
kek, thanks for the vulcano
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>>546381276
>though i'd nitpick and say high DPI is not a must.
Okay fair. I was reductive for brevity. In general it is better to have a high DPI and low in game sens than high in game sens and low DPI, because increased DPI makes for a smoother mouse, but the way I said it could be interpreted as "you need to put your mouse on 32k dpi and reduce the game till you can deal with it" which is not entirely true. Just in general that when your aim in game is too fast, it's better to trim the in-game sens BEFORE you lower your DPI. (diminishing returns apply)
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I'm way ahead of the competition.
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>>546382209
that's preddy gud too desu
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>>546381721
I had a great round end yesterday when I got greedy for a snitch scanner, failed to kill it before it flew out of my line of sight behind a bridge, and then got murdered by its summons in the area south of buried city with no cover
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What is better on an Anvil: compensator or muzzle break?
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>>546381427
>You should be able to keep your kit if you surrender immediately after spawning in.
wait really? you can just surrender immediately instead of having to run to an extract? without losing your gear?
I gotta try that
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desync fix hasn't done anything for losing 75% of your health to a venator before the other persons viewmodel even crosses the corner. ah well
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>>546382209
that's some good shit. Shame about her show being mid
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>>546382337
What is in the Archives in Stella Montis
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>>546382080
Man, fucking everything is lame as shit. Why bother doing the puzzles when it's the same loot as a breach door, or worse in most cases? All 3 puzzle buildings (2 outside, red room in tunnels) have garbage loot. The puzzles on other maps have garbage too. The only event that isn't Night that has good loot is spaceport launch tower.
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Is the Venator that good? I just can't take it over the Anvil. I don't have it in me
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lots of kosniggers today
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>>546381809
>>546382209
based
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>>546381809
not bad, anon.
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>all the pvp seethe
get good
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>>546382080
I bet you have a shit voice and you don't know about the color computer
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>>546382531
Even in solo, complete destruction, if it wasn't just friggers I'd have died 10 times over
My Ferro IV and Rattler IV put in work
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>>546382503
on blue gate*

Even the hidden bunker is a waste of fucking time. You get in and there is at most 1 weapon case, which you can find like 30 of just wandering around the map normally. And then you spent 20 minutes downloading
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only 10 more points to go, I'm thinking these are my final choices
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>>546382528
use both?
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>>546382528
no its just one guy forcing a meme, all you need is anvil + stitcher or torrente
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They must have fucked with the pvebabbie queue. Just yesterday I was in my friendly warm safespace hugbox full of "DON'T SHOOT!" fellas. Today I'm running around questing and people hunt you down left right and center.
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>>546382397
silencer
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>>546382640
downloading for what you think is a puzzle but turns out to be NOTHING*
fuck me i'm retarded today. maybe im posting retarded because of how angry i am
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all's left is 3 more sentinel cores, home free
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>>546382674
Anon get half weapon weight in conditioning if you still have 10 points
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>>546382674
Loaded arms superior.
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>>546382397
Compensator on everything. Reducing the aim bloom quicker for better accuracy is amazing meanwhile controlling recoil is basically a non-issue in this game outside of the torrente
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>>546382416
No don't kek
I meant "should" as in "they should let you do this"
Not that it was possible. Do NOT try it
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>>546382884
not him but is recoil that little an issue?
Obviously you reduce dispersion on ferro and anvil but even the automatics?
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>>546382612
Charismatic enough that I was able to herd multiple lobbies into unlocking the gate, but not sure why that matters.

And yes I know about the basic ass puzzle that every single person has known about since week 1. It's still the same loot pool as running it on daytime map.
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>>546382928
KEK gotcha
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>>546382674
>5/5 in crouching stamina
only works when you aren't moving and it's like a 5% increase
>1/5 in looting quieter
shit nigger what are you doing?
>5/5 in overencumbered
you rarely get encumbered when you aren't running free kits
>calming stroll
only works when you toggle walk, it's useless
>4/5 in sturdy ankles
garbage, barely prevents fall damage
>1/5 in slide faster/farther
you realize this is both a stamina saver for long runs and also amazing in pvp right?
>downed crawl faster
worthless, why would you want this?
>no carry the momentum
>no three deep breaths
>only 3/5 in shield weight
Your skill tree is just bricked my dude
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>>546349771
Nice tacticooling
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>>546383060
Anon I literally drop in and command people to go places without effort. You're gonna have to post a Vocaroo https://vocaroo.com
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Soon all the quests I'll have left are the ones where I need to kill a Surveyor, Leaper and Rocketeer. I botched one attempt at trying to kill one of those round fucks by throwing my Wolfpack too low. Now I have just one more left but I can't find any. Any strats other than "bring nades" (which ones) and "shoot it with a Ferro"?
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>>546382528
it is wildly overpowered. if it required queen cores it would probably still be too good. with a mag attachment you can solo wipe squads.
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>>546381531
animal farm is an ez read well suited for breaks between rounds, but I think you could be dissapointed if you're expecting something just like 1984. I'm about 2/3rds through brave new world and I can endorse it as a good follow up read to 1984. Its a bit more difficult a read just dealing with the shear volume of new fantastical 1930s sci fi nonsense nouns Huxley continuously introduces for the first few chapters. But I think its really good once you can get the reading inertia rolling.
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>panting while wearing a helmet is no longer so loud it sounds like it's coming through a megaphone
The most important change this update.
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>>546383147
>1/5 in looting quieter
thats obviously a requirement for the 10 extra weight why are you giving him shit for that?
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>>546382616
I lost a torrente to the reload and just being loud and stupid/trusting, it more than paid for itself but Im still salty
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>>546383335
I will miss listening to a woman having an orgasm
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>>546383193
??? I don't give a fuck and it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Go jerk off to asmr somewhere else nigger.
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>>546381531
Anon is right, Animal farm is a must read in general
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>need to kill the queen again to get the achi
damn you swedecucks
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>>546383258
epsilon hands typed this post
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>>546383341
Why wouldn't you go 5/5 in that? Better than crouched stamina desu
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>>546383147
a whole critique and I am not reading that manifesto
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olives are most common on blue gate, right?
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I think this is THE optimal skill tree.
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>>546382528
Only if you run it with at least II mag mod
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>>546383258
Very pneumatic
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>>546382528
yes
it is incredibly well rounded and hits hard
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>>546383740
Why didn't you pick the other red capstone. Stealing a rat's mines is funny.
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>>546382479
Send a billion more mats to find out !
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>>546383896
I feel like if you are that close they already know you are there and will probably kill you while you're doing it anyway. Also because you need 3 in the dodge roll to get 1 extra roll before you run out of stamina.
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>>546383561
>looting is already quiet and only makes noise when you first loot an object
>if you're in a building looting for an extended period your footsteps are what's giving you away
>if you're looting for 2 seconds and running off who cares how loud it is
>the skill is probably like 20% sound reduction which translates to something useless like a couple meters in audio detection range
>it's optimal to pause to catch your breath and completely refill stamina during extended runs (assuming no adrenaline) so you might as well crouch while you're already not moving
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>>546383740
ye that looks solid
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>>546376143
kek security lockers are actually bugged not nerfed, just confirmed
>lockers bugged
>timer to unlock bugged
>new mine bugged
>new area bugged
this is some blizzard level patching
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>>546384096
If you are stopping to regen stamina, then you are doing it wrong. Adrenaline exists and is cheap, sliding regens stamina while moving you so it's optimal to always be sprint sliding around so you never drop below 50% in the first place and you outrun everyone doing this.
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Game crashed right in front of the open elevator door. This is worse than getting ratted by the scumiest freeshit user in Italy.
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>>546384162
dev said they were nerfed though, did they walk it back?
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>>546384162
Confirmed where?
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this game still worth picking up or have I already missed the boat? don't care about friendly mic stuff, just want to loot and shoot by myself but guessing that gets pretty boring
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>>546384261
could be nerfed and bugged, ninja said the lockers are confirmed bugged just now
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>>546383147
Nta but i took the downed/crawl speed as a meme in the event of being downed alongside my buddies, but it has actually saved me more than once (like having a sliver of health left when crawling into a hatch)
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>>546383740
>three deep breaths over stubborn mule
I'd swap those

I used to think sliding further would come in handy but the amount of climbing and falling I do, I'd rather lose less health. Also you're forgetting one final thing, security lockers were nerfed today.

So maybe the points towards it isn't worth after all.
Here's my proposal
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>>546384347
>>546384368
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>>546384447
Why stubborn mule? I never get overencumbered. Even my last game I extracted with 6 weapons in my full inventory and still had like 3kg to work with
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>>546384353
>have I already missed the boat?
it's been out for like 2 weeks anon hop in
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>>546384513
>lockers are confirmed bugged
>confirmed where
>streamer said so
Okay where did the streamer get his confirmation?
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>>546383740
>picking the lower set of green talents
Why would you ever? None of them are useful.
Also:
>Three deep breaths in red 5/5
I suspect this is a meme talent. From what I can tell what it does is change the minimum needed stamina to start a sprint. So if you go empty, you can sprint again wither fewer total stamina regenerated, But obviously, lets say if it lets you sprint with 5 stamina instead of 10 stamina, (numbers imagined, don't get on my case about this) the result is just that you can sooner sprint for half the time. Not really worth any points.
>advanced fieldcrafting
Probably also a meme that you're never gonna use but I bet that one time in 500 hours of gameplay where it's PVP hell, and you craft a raider key and fuck off must feel 200IQ.
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>>546382816
is it confirmed loaded arms halves weapon weight in hands?
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>>546384353
the gear/progress ceiling isn't high at all and its only been 2 weeks since launch
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>>546384368
>ninja said
god this entire general really is just tourist faggots huh
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>>546384628
I guess you haven't had as bountiful runs.
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>>546384653
Read the thread, nigger.
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>>546384724
bruh you don't fw ninja? no cap?
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>>546384668
If you run out of stamina in a fight, being able to fully sprint roll out of an attack rather than a sluggish roll that goes nowhere, it's pretty good.
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So, how bad is the nerf. I didn't waste my points going red did I?
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>>546385084
it's over
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>>546385084
red has a lotta good shit, but yes security breach has been murdered
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>>546377695
Surely someone's tried them?
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>>546385084
I actually like security breach more now. You get more blues like Torrentes and Ospreys, which kinda suck, but are at least more interesting than the Bobcat or Tempest.
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>>546384724
To be fair streamers tend to have direct connects to developers, but I doubt Ninja is correct in this case. If it were bugged a dev would have said something.
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celeste looks like a real eater
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>>546385276
>Torrentes and Ospreys
the two worst guns in the game? oh boy i can't wait to shoot someone for 11 damage!
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>>546374878
>>546376143
Lol I'm 1 level away from getting this skill, figures

Might be done with this game
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This game should have free weekends for pure chaos
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>>546385508
>t. metaslave venator main
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>>546385565
free weekends freekits/loot mk1 only sounds funny as fuck
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>>546385084
nobody really knows because its either bugged or nerfed and bugged atm
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Anvil + hullbreaker a decent loadout?
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Anyone getting a weird bug where the keyboard unplugs whenever you open the game?
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The worst part is knowing that the skills are so bad in this game even a nerfed security breach is the best one just because it gives you more loot. I don't care about the purple weapons, but did their BP chance get affected? Because if so, that's the one that really stings.
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>>546385764
I kinda want to make someone's day bad with 0 risk on me.
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>>546384368
>ninja said
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>>546385821
venator + hullbreaker
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>>546385821
Solo'd a rocketeer and bastion with that loadout yesterday. If you don't want to get ganked while fighting you can try what I did. I yelled out "killing a ___ if anyone wants to help" and "I just killed a ___ if anyone wants to come loot some of it, there's more than I can carry" because you WILL draw attention. No one bothered me both times.
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>>546385915
security lockers were for weapons/loot, bps were for raider caches (those have been nerfed too)
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>>546385546
>>546376143
>>546374878
This is how devs run the game, by the way. The game will be:

>1) tryhards with no jobs abusing the best weapons/skills/etc. due to the amount of time they can sink into it
>2) casuals without a lot of hours played complain and cope on rebbit, demanding weapon/skill/etc. get nerfed
>3) devs make a quick reactionary patch to nerf weapon/skill/etc.
>4) tryhards get the benefit of having abused weapon/skill/etc., casuals who were slowly working towards being able to abuse it get fucked, tryhards move on to the next abusable thing before cycle repeats itself
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>>546368475
It went up 8% in less than an hour. It's "this map will be unlocked before 90% of players even get to take part in the event, let's slow it down"
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>123 hours
>seen Bobcat ONCE
what the fuck is wrong with the droprate on that?
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>>546386107
>No one bothered me

Try that in Asia, this game needs to be free now for REAL rat experience. It's too safe and baby.

The loot rate should be higher if everyone is killing in the server. Or more robots if everyone is working together.
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does appearing offline on steam make you appear offline in game as well
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>be in red location
>kill guy
>DOOD I WAS JUST QUESTING
>being shocked someone kills you in a high value loot zone
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Lootable Premium Currency

Chaos is a ladder
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>>546386269
They were pretty common in security lockers
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>negro charges right towards me without using a single voice line
>shoot him up
>"wtf mayne I was jus wanna farm shit"
Lol, maybe announce yourself next time instead of running right towards me gun in hand
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fine, i'll do it
>>546386746
>>546386746
>>546386746
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that wolfpack nerf is something... less pressure on sensors at least/i guess??
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>>546385207
>>546385227
>>546385809
oh man. that sucks.
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>>546383467
terrible voice confirmed
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>>546385976
I've been doing it since I started playing and it's wonderful
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>>546384668
>advanced fieldcrafting
not him but tripwire blueprints dude
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so whats the lore guys. I'm guessing the people who left the planet (the good guys) terraformed mars or something and theyre sending the machines to harvest the rest of earth's resources for themselves while also seeing if the planet is habitable again and wiping out the brown horde that inherited earth
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>>546385546
oh, no, missing out on the shitty bobcats! who cares man, all you need is an Anvil IV or Venator IV
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>>546385546
i have never gotten anything good with security lockers.

you get some ammo, some random gun crafing items, and maybe a purple gun, except all of them suck. the only relevant purple gun is the semi-shotty.



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