Patch Soon editionWiki for character guides and such (Under construction)https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/>Official linkhttps://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/>How do I get in?Early Access doesn't require a code, hop on!>TWO ECKS KAY OH>>545688572
HEADLESS
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>>546443289>ekko has os oki that covers every wakeup option automatically and loops into itselfso does jinx's trap oki, though
>playing casuals>lose ten in a row>finally adapt and win but realize the other guy is a compete flowchart fag that doesn't change at allI don't know how to feel about this
>>546449858it means you need to adapt faster if it took you 10 games
>>546449858you got the download bro
>>546440376>Vtuber slop for lo IQ parasexualsKys for linking this
>>546446427>teemo funeral opwtf thats actually fitting
>>546451331yeah i saw it in my folder and thought it was funny. my personal interpretation is that darius is swearing he'll avenge teemo just because i think it's funny
>>546451169vtubers save games
>>546451393(even funnier because his ass 99% doesn't know that yordles just magically respawn in bandle city when they die (though this was definitely drawn before that was added to the lore))
am i supposed to be impressed by this "no motion inputs" BS? i gave the game a try and learned some combos and they are literally tekken combos, you just need to learn the associated buttons and the directions to holdis this supposed to be revolutionary or even accesible? tekken has it but also insane execution checks, idk much about this game ececution barrier but it does have insane situations you can be put into seemingly to make up for this supposed lowered skill floor and that has been putting people offso, what's the point of all this?
>>546452913>t*kken player discovers her game is as easy as a game designed specifically to be executable by total beginners
>>546452913don't you have to go slime rush and be in heat you flaming faggot fuck off
>>54645444999% of tuko players and even slime players cannot reach TK with my character, I can guarantee you that>>546454659imbecile
tekken sis going into heat and presenting herself for the tukoBVLLS oh me oh my
>>546454725If I played more I could get TK with my own character but I stopped at Fujin I'm good. If I continued I'd rape your shitty main.
>>546455341who do you play?
>>546455432
>>546452913nigga why shit gotta be revolutionary who cares niggaits a control scheme for a video game open your eyes nigga look at a blade of grass nigga
>>546455835you also play a highly complicated character that will filter lile 99% of modern fighting game fans, kudos>>546455952i remember the time when you tuco cultists are hyping this game up to be the second coming of christ, don't try to act like a small fry right now lol
girl help they're talking about literally anything but the fucking game again
Load tukoshoot rocketcall vishoot rocketcross uphell yeah
>absolutely demolish someone>check their profile>iron 3>emerald lobbywhy is he here? i wonder if i turned him off the game
>>546452913Erm actually smash had them firstLearn your history babe
Neeko if she 2xko
Braum Darius might claim their first tournament win in TNS, lightwisp is in grand finals
>>546459080absolutely not gonna get my hopes upthey can't beat ekko yasuo
>>546456878Shut the fuck up faggot
>>546459080>open stream>commentators watching in bored silence as ekko and ekko fight each other
>tfw want to ask for a set>tfw last 3 times I asked I got ignoredSigh.
>>546461684i'll play you once tns ends
>>546461714Newsflash buddy, Lightwisp wins.
>>546462062yeah that was fucking sick loli didn't believe but that was inspirationalanyhoo make a room real quick im gonna get some water and then hop on
>>546461684are we playing or what
it's been 15 minutes buddy is gone i'm going to bed
>>546463083make the room man.
>>546463250>>546463083p223552qI read the post as you'll make the room. But whatever here's the code.
>>546463356i hopped on rank give me like 3 mins
>>546463540I've got work in the morning man come on
>>546463872it's a fuckin teemo player wait a sec
ok omw
memory leak or something?well, ggs. once you get a little more confident on the ekko confirms i think you'll be freeing me up desu
>>546458126Nice
wake me up when they balance the ekko
>>546468693weve been over this, they're not gonna balance the top tiers they're just gonna release even stronger characters that make you wish you were fighting ekko/yas
>>546468969time to uninstall then and go to other fighting gamesI'll check again in a year, see if anything changed
>>546469160i mean that's mostly a joke. we're pretty far out from any new char releases: the real test is gonna be the patch on the 18th
>>546474334>filenamejesus christ this file must be like 10 years old
Got to play duos without my regular duo and played with two diff randoms with no voice coms from random lobby invites in casuals, lobby was mostly golds/platsStill pretty fun, carried one of them and got a cool tod fury kill with them using super assist at the right time to get the kill, and the other duo team had enough teamwork for the other guy to understand to switch fuses without me saying anythingDuo is actually the superior mode if the teamwork is good enough, I can input 2x jinx back assist while my duo is running forward and in sandwich situations where they are running at them
>>546477912i feel like projectile assists are easiest to make work in duos with randoms w/o any pre-practice. there's really never a bad time to shoot a projectile assist
2XKO? more like 2X GAY OH! HA!
>>546480646cheers bro i'll drink to that
>>546480730Wasn't Garen supposed to be in this game too?
>>546480953hasn't been announced or teased at all yetpersonally i think it's only a matter of time though
early night tonight... please don't die in my sleep tuko
>>546467226>ratatat neeko>no trundle lame
>>546477912the fact there are some combos and mix exclusive to duo play is sick.its cool that they made it so competetitive
>>546459080lightwisp the goatthat guy is so sick
SKYBONESSKYBONESPEWPEWBOINGBOING BOI-SKYBONES
>even the subreddit is doompostingdattebayo...
braum…wonned
>>546489871If even the stay positive or permaban website is doomposting then you know its looking grim
>>546489871Feels like we're in a doomer slump right now just waiting for the patch
>>546494931there shouldn't have been any waiting wtf are they doing working 30 mins per day
2xko is so bad for your channel leffen would rather play league
>going on reddit ishygddt
>>546490574that's cool but who the fuck are any of these people
>>546495741Noka is pretty goodInzem was going to play but he dq’dMost others are just random challengers
>>546495416man at least we arent street fightermotherfuckers get one patch in 6 months
>>546495646>not only going on reddit but also posting your reddit finds on 4chanI'd ISHYGDDT but clearly YGDDT and deserve the rope
is the patch seriously next tuesday
Dead game
>>546503739yeah last time we got the notes on monday though iirc
>>546498553sf6 may as well not even get patchesthat game is the exact same shit it's been since beta 1
>>546508881Same with ggPotempkin made me quit the game and he’s still retarded
>>546513303real?potemkin was annoying but in strive you could literally pick who you wanted to play against for 90% of the game's existence
this game needs some real champions badlyAn injection of 6 million luxsluts would save our gen
>>546490574pretty cool, tho they didn't exactly beat any heavy hitters i guess?
the problem with duos is that women dont play fgs so its harder to rope them in.On top of that its easier to carry a dead weight supportgirlie than it is to carry an afk in 2xko, even if you’re on sidekick.I ran into a few pink ahris who had no idea how to play a few weeks ago but that well’s dried up
>>546520916just one more thing in this game that looks beginner friendly but is actually for enthusiaststhat having been said duos are fun as fuck
>>546518131Still really impressiveNoka loves the fullscreen charge Vi-S1 into active tag move that I use, the way he always calls braum back assist to just stop her dead is nutty
Tourney is upThis dude is himhttps://youtu.be/HTBf0c1pJwI?si=2xiwlwYFu3GzMMBF
>>546520916The problem with duos is you spend 50% of the time spectating instead of playing. It's more like taking turns than actually playing a team game.
>>546522837I disagree actuallyI think it’s almost too draining, doing proper blockstrings and calling well timed assists into neutral that don’t just grief your teammate requires you watch every moment of the game as if you were playing
>>546522683>darius/braum wins one (1) tourney full of nobodies>"IS THIS THE NEW TOP TIER?!?!?!?!?"I hate fighting game players!
>>546523409nobody is saying thathe’s just cool
ITS FRIDAYLobby TONIGHTOR ELSE
>>546489871I wonder how devs feel reading that doomer shit about their game. Gotta be demoralizing. Do they bring it up at work and actually discuss it? Or do they all just quietly read it at home and keep on trucking?
>>546525514i hope every single "please kill the 4 horsemen" post with 500 upvotes causes one more round of nerfsi want post-patch to look like a completely different game
I duod randomly with a silver guy in the lobby who mained yas/ekko asking for someone to duo with him, and I now understand why plebbitors seethe about ekko being a zoner and backdashingI got to see a silver ekko mirror match of them both backdashing full screen and chucking balls at each other, and their approach strat was to walk a few inches, chuck some more balls, then repeat or start jump buttonsThey also had no idea how to tag, so the rounds ended up being me watching them flail around in neutral like this until they died, it was kinda heartwarming to see them go at it
rito needs to fix this shit before it flops
>>546524564host it ill try to join
How true is this video to tuko's upback metahttps://youtu.be/93uquNiZ48s?si=CD6-a2H5jElHx7wc
qiyana doko
>>546530991The game isn't as fast paced, so its easier to pick up on habits and movement, plus there being rounds gives you more time to play and see what they doIt's not as easy sniping assist calls or tag outs, the ones I see doing it the most are usually jinx, braum, Darius going for supers full screen, jinx lvl 3 to kill an assist is pretty funny
2xkover....
>>546539148Whenever you watch a Marvel oldhead they always hit bad assist calls. Iheartjustice just tackling and shockwaving every single bad call against boxbox and killing him from out of the game was funny
>>546530991when tf are they adding a beam assist or hidden missiles assisticonic marvelslop just missing
>>546528096zoning at a low level is super easy to execute and super hard to beat. new players don't know how to deal with it so the best option is to just not deal with itand then you reach high level zoning and it's still 500x stronger and even harder to beat lol
>>546548492>garen not even in honorable mentionsbro it isn't going like thistoo much potential shittalking with other chars + double god kings would go too crazy, he's in
>>546548492>couldnt even the first addition rightthis will be caitlyns game in january
to all leaksisters:just don't forget that jam had files in strive from day 1 and she's STILL not in the game
Strivers don't even understand their own game let alone others
>>546551250damn lol
>>546551250insane
>>546551250to be fair literally nobody uses it that way in that game because you should just 6p
>>546525514They SHOULD feel demoralized but I very much doubt they have the mental capacity to do so.The fucking nigga in charge of balance is a transgender who enjoys DNF Duel what HAVE these devs done in ten years?11 characters, horrid balance, mechanics shoehorned in and that's just to stay only on the gameplay because it's where they put most of their effort, let alone everything else this game didn't pull a single league player and it's not doing wonders in the fgc eithermost FGs are from jap companies and jap companies are hilariously incompetent, Riot SHOULD have wiped the floor with everyone. Obviously they could never mog CS but they did a good job with Valorant this game is more like LoR, but I don't have the knowledge on what LoR failed (good riddance it was woke as shit and ruined the lore permanently)
>>546553370lol
>>546553370worst part is that all these useless devs are going to grift another fg company since they worked at riot and must be good
>>546551250>Xturders are unironic tw*tter tranniesOh no no no no
>>546515219Imagine the yuri doujins
What would happen to the world if this was the 2XKO roster instead?
>>546562809darius getting to be a dlc char added later would be pretty hype. who knows how degen he would be
>>546562809>ahri>blitz>jinx>swain>ziggs>gp>thresh>neeko>lux>cait>nasus>voli>asol>baron nashor boss character>pengu joke characterWAY too many zoners and big bodies no rushdowns at allbut pretty good rosterz otherwise
did they even fix the memory leaks
>>546566517patch tuesday
>>546566517for most people ingame yeahsome people still get a training mode leak apparently
>riftbound comes out>cute jinx cosplayers opening packs>2xko comes out>....
>theres an animation for trying to throw a chompers when there's one already outcute
>>546559957>using twitter makes you a trannyThe absolute reach and cope from strivesissies is palpable.
Yo airblockstun guy watch Noka play, he loves doing charge S1 after active tag. Also seeing some freestyle Vi's do an active tag out, charge S1, big hitbox back into Vi in this flyquest tourneyIt is a pretty common occurance actually
Lightwhisp has some disgusting setups His neutch is clean as fuck there's never any gaps Everything is always covered by a darius tackle from off ropes or braum armorBut he does still explode when yas ahri ekko touch his block sadly
>>546575763it's crazy sick watching him succeed but he has to work so much harder than everyone else
I've learned you can braum armor through vi S1 super and beat it outrightGive her a buff she needs it
>lightwhisp used to be a steven universe onetrick in multiversusok thats random
>>546576953you can also darius dp it
>>546576953Blitz armor does too, its ok it's funny
>there are vtumor fans hereOh no no no no
Why does parry delete Braum's S1 Super but you can parry literally 7 times and still have to eat Ekko's S1 super
https://x.com/whynotbefriends/status/1928652259908288710
I can't get out of Diamond I don't even want to play ngl
>>546578356>take one of the most dishonest chars in league>put him in an fg>he's one of the most dishonest chars in the gameHmm
>>546577636cute
>>546579094>being a retard is cuteThe absolute state...
>>546579807always has been
>>546578487I got out You can do it too anon just believe in yourselfAll it takes is 1 less dropped combo 1 more clean assist call
lobby interest checkwho wants to play some matches
>>546582797i was down earlier but Ive got an essay due in 65 minutes
>>546584092you can do it king
>>546582797I was down earlier but I lost 3 games in a row on ranked so I'm gonna play something else
>>546585491well if you're not up to ranked we could always do duos or something but yeah ik that feel bro
>>546582797ok im done want to play a ft5
>>546588032yea but i just started a ranked set vs ahri so give me a sec
>>546588032ok ready. do you wanna make a room
>>546589112jp53z8zz
Alright, I never played a fighting game before. What am I in for?
>>546589112wtf i cant leavei cant type eitherggs tho
>>546589112I was getting the download almost there but man I cannot tech a grab to save my life lolwas fun
>>546591574>>546591698that happened when i played someone last night too aughggs though! when you did that crazy ass vi confirm off the monkey i gasped so loud my friends came to see what was wrong lol that was sick as fuckyou parry better and more successfully than 99% of players i fight lol. may i give a few pieces of advice?
>>546591808yeah lmk Im always looking for new avenues of growth
>diaphone is calling KoF characters "champs" in his new videowe got him boys
>>546591912yea!i think your jinx is super solid and strong, just gotta grind picking up after a grab a bit because that's a good bit of damage you missed on those, but other than that no real notes for her, very nicevi i think has a bit of catching up to do but not in terms of tech or anything like that. i think you just play her a little bit too carefully. don't be afraid to just throw out those 5s1s and jumpscare people with that. maybe do a little more random sway back/sway forward to see if you can scare them into pressing a button and then whiff punish alsoas for dealing with grabs, teching doesn't really do much to get you out of the situation or give you a punish, so it's really best if you can to just (straight up if possible) instead of going for techs in like 99% of situationsoverall tho the games were a lot closer than the record and you had me sweating. ggs and looking forward to playing again
>>546592392Yeah I get that feeling tooWhenever Im on Vi I just try to swap back to Jinx most of the time, that's probably building bad habits lol.I really should lab a grab confirm but I keep putting it off, definitely kind of disgusting of me xd
>>546593272to be fair, it's also probably really hard to swap back and forth between the mentality of "if i press a wrong button at the wrong time i'll die" and "ha ha time to bet it all on random 5s1"
>>546593925True but that's kinda the game thoughGotta shift me gears betterVi definitely is one of those characters that gets stronger the more apelike you are
>>546589915>you might be intimidated by the long combos but just keep in mind that they're not as hard or as memorization-heavy as they look>don't be afraid to simply use the pulse combos to get started>don't be afraid to pick the characters that seem "harder" or based on whether they're strong, just pick whoever you personally like and are interested in>there is a LOT to learn, and learning is fun>come to this thread and post when you need adviceHope you have fun!
I might have too much hopium for the patch but the way they worded the notes about how they want to remove stuff that has no counterplay makes it sound pretty goodI just want them to get rid of those stupid plus on block supers people just spam to make you hold pressure forever that shit is so boringAt the very least make them parryable and the blockstring untrue
Yinx
There are lots of complaints about balance, but only a few pair them with footage of their own gameplay. No matter your rank, I think posting your own clips is better for you, and helps devs make better decisions.If you only point to other people's gameplay and tourney results, then the complaints will address issues other people are having, not yours. You might agree with a top player that a character is OP, but the reason you are losing is unlikely to be their reason. When the new balance patch comes, you end up losing to the same thing anyways.Some people might be afraid that showing their gameplay will expose their lack of skill and be dismissed by ruthless get good people. But, I think most people are glad to help if you humbly frame your issue with a clip. It's a great option select.- If it's a skill problem, you just got a solution you can apply right away.- If it's a game problem, your clip gives credibility to the issue for devs.- If someone is a dick to you, they look bad, not you.But maybe you think your clip will be ignored. Possibly, but I'd argue your clip would be more valuable to the devs than a top player's because top players' clips are already displayed ad nauseam on social media. You are also representative of a much larger player base than the 0.1% that end up in top 8s.It might be salt, but when people don't know what they're losing to, they often reach for the prevailing sentiment even if it doesn't apply to them. This pressures devs into balancing based on vibes over actual gameplay. Showing your own clips is the antidote for this.
i need to stop listening to sajam talk about character strength in this game bro holy fuck
>>546598178Sexo but not enoughI need some real ass brown
good night tuko
>>546551250lmao only retarded xturders would use something as committal as a dp for antiairing when 6P or air throw are right there. You get nothing from a dp hit without rc and you can't rc to save your ass on whiff or block
Very late experiment but I finally got around to doing ranked since I think I got my game crashing issue fixedWas placed in emerald in the closed beta, but I did my placements as a duo with my friend who's a complete casual and barely plays at all and we placed together in bronze, even though I regularly play against plats and gold in casual lobbies, so duo placement is treated differently
>>546548492tryndamerebros...
I think I've played the game enough and thought about the state of the game long enough to come to a confident conclusion that this is the most micky mouse fighting game I have ever played that is made by a serious developer studio. There isn't a single fighting game that I can recall where literally everything is out of sync and doesn't make any sense either from a competitive or casual standpoint, 90% of the game is fucked in an irritating and unfun way. Other fighting games have had big issues on launch, but 2xko has the same problems, as well as others, and the issues are ramped up to the max Im still having fun with the game but its the type of fun where I've accepted that the game is horrible and laughing at how shit it is instead of actually enjoying it for being a good game
>>546620484grim
>>546625384which part?
>>546620484Rank? Favorite fighting game?
>>546637835challenger, strive
>>546637835grandmaster but I am low grandmaster and I don't know how much rank means when all I did to get to grandmaster was hit people on wakeup because nobody blocks. I don't have a favourite fighting game but I've always played Street Fighter, KOF, and GG, I just like fighting games. Regardless of my skill level or game preference, 2xko is actually a dogshit game in every sense
>>546638536what would you say are the top 3 worst mechanics in the game
>>546638862purely mechanics? 1. Fury is the most micky mouse mechanic ever added into any fighting game by an entire country mile. It regens grey health, gives a damage boost, a defence buff, speed increase, and allows you to cancel normals and specials into a dash. It is simply micky mouse. 2. Super assists are fucking stupid, I get that they didn't want players to feel bad about a champ dying with meter but if you are bad with your meter then suck it up. It should have never existed. 3. Chip damage. This is more of a personal gripe as I personally don't like chip to kill in fighting games, its much more interesting to play situations where someone is 1% and now its on them to navigate the situation in the most advantageous way possible. Chip to kill is boring and the chip damage in the game is outrageous. There are too many situations where you can just checkmate someone with 20% health and if you have the right team then 40% chip sequences Honourable mention: 2X assist is terribly implemented. Forward advancing assists that often cant be interacted with and confirmed into insane damage, corner carry, and oki, just isn't fun to pay with or deal with
>>546639850>1. Furyok retard2x is the worst. crying about fury is retarded, this game is the biggest snowball fighting game ever. Nobody is coming back with fury with any real deficit in any serious match. Use limit strikes one time
>>546640438lmao
getting tried of playing with a keyboardany controller recommendations?
>the game is so lame its just whoever gets to run their cheap instant win oki first>the game is so lame its just whoever goes afk and lets their character get killed so they can spam fury super assistswhich one is it
>>546640915I got this 8Bitdo controller a month ago it's been pretty good so far
Woah Zando is sickThis guy is nasty on Vi
>2H into charged jS1DAMN that works
>2 vi players in loser's semis doing the active tag S1 charge at the same time
>>546639850>its much more interesting to play situations where someone is 1% and now its on them to navigate the situation in the most advantageous way possibleAwful take, with no chip literally nothing changes about the game and gameplay when you're at one hp except spectator expectations, they play neutral in the same exact wayIf you can't parry, jump for retarded reasons, walk into a block string, you should get punished by teams that are built to do more chip damage
>ww run just blasts through super tentaclessheesh
europe fucking loves vi this top 8 is like 6 vis
watching my friend try to fight zoners.. bakano, this is not how you get in on jinx
he did not like that
>>546646329kek
>>546639850fury and super assist are both fucked yeah i agree. especially because some super assists are hilariously busted and some are just OKwith 2x assist they NEED to make it to where if you 2x you cannot handshake tag
wait zando is fucking inzem up rnthis dude plays so random
Will we ever get a playable vaLULrant character in this game or is it just league?
>do something stupid ultra scrubby>get blocked and be minus>"ok im gonna freestyle">do it again>get blocked and be minus>"ok im gonna reversal super">be right>freestyle mix>deadvi is fucking broken
>>546647872we dunnothe aesthetic makes me think its possiblethey called it 2xko not "fighters of legends" or something
>>546647872that would be suicidepeople already shit on this game for 11 chars and half the roster being arcane slopthe NUMBER ONE REASON to have interest in 2xko is purely: i want my champ to be in a game that isnt fucking league of legendswasting spots on anything but league champs... pls no
>>546648772Do fps fags even play other games that don't involve shooting
>>546651067hell noit'd be a terrible idea
>>546638005>>546620484>striver>thinks the game "doesn't make sense"Like clockwork. Your kind should be fully disallowed from touching this game. The only reason you touched it is because your faggot God Leffen told you to play. You're all the same.
>>546655105>xturd schizo sitting in 2xko thread and not playing the game he thinks is betteryea real clockwork stuff going on also you have leffen in your corner for this game the fuck are you on about
>>546620484first tag fighter?
>>546639850>"Everything is out of sync">"Game doesn't make sense">"2XKO has the same big issues on launch as other games">His biggest issues are;>Fury being too strong, which is arguable, but it's rare that people strategize by popping fury then winning the game>Super assists, which have some that needs nerfs but are generally not an issue and qualify as a comeback mechanic>Chip damage, something that exists in almost every other fighting game as a feature and not a bugThis is the intellect of the average striver. This is what we deal with. Two things so utterly minuscule and fixable by a patch and the other insanely retarded. Reminder he classified this as "doesn't make sense" and "same issues as other games on launch"These people are a joke and should be removed
>>546657540i'll say this, chip death really hasn't been a thing in modern fgs, even in sf5 if you wanted a chip kill you had to use super iirc.fury imo is indeed way too strong, and worse, it heavily favors the fast characters with extremely long combos. ahri for example can literally tod meterless with fury. so it's just another way the top tiers stay top tieri think this game really only needed 1 comeback mechanic: either super assist OR fury, def not both because, again, the top tiers are the ones with crazy busted super assists and everyone else's range from "pretty good" (warwick, vi) to borderline useless (blitz). meanwhile yasuo's super assist is one of the strongest things in the entire game because of course it is
How is this thread so dead and will the patch save it?
pity bump
>>546655105nigga i don't like leffen and he is the poster boy and biggest tuco shill. Do you know he also helped with development? You are playing the leffen game
>>546666054this is sajam erasure
>Enter casual lobby>two guys.Grim...
>>546677942rare
>>546656416Not my first tag fighter but I don't usually play tag fighters >>546657540>This is the intellect of the average strive I was asked what mechanics I have the most issues with, I even stated "specifically mechanics" because there are a huge amount of issues outside of just the mechanics. Its pretty funny how you're talking about the "average intellect of strivers" when you cant even read some posts and internalise them, lmao. btw street fighter is my main fighting game series that I always go back to not GG.I guess I really touched a nerve with my post about how fucking dogshit the game is. Im still playing it and having fun as I said, and I will still play it and have fun, its just a terrible fighting game that shouldn't be taken seriously in any capacity
>>546643325In a vacuum I would agree with you. i don't like chip to kill personally but I've always just tolerated it in every other game and accepted it, but in 2xko there are so many micky mouse aspects to the game that it just outright ruins some matches for me. I say that as someone who absolutely abuses chip damage with Teemo. With no chip to kill I cant just say "haha ggs shake my hand Im just gonna back up and do Teemo dart super, oh you want to parry it well I'll just move back and forth to change the variable timing of the darts and now you cant parry how you labbed it". Thats not an isolated case, its very common for a lot of characters, Illaoi and darius come to mind and if your playing a good player they can bait parry and still cover most other options. Its fucking boring, that final bit of health scramble is always the most exciting part of any match and its just never there because of how outrageous chip is
>>546681545>plays a zoner>doesn't like zoning people out and killing them with projectilesIs this the mind of a meta fag where they feel bad for winning somehow, what causes this
>>546682427well I will say that Teemo should make you feel bad cause he a buggy fucking mess but yea if your having a fucking meltdown cause your playing the archetype and being sad I dunno that some other shit you picked a top tier enjoy
>>546682427Not being a slave to an IP because your desperate for it to give you some personality. Normal people can be critical of the things like like, normal people can play Teemo and agree that he is hugely overtuned and needs nerfing because you want to play a fun competitive game. Normal people can also see that the systems of the game hugely help him over others in the cast which is just bad character and gameplay design. Its really not that difficult to understand
>>546683012marlinpie designed ekko and yasuo tooliterally 3/4 of the god tier lolplease god let this man make garen
>>546683012Cute little timmy thinks he's special for metafagging and believing they're able to think a little when he's playing a character with a poison mechanic designed to help him chip out easier, and then blaming the system for winning
>>546683972Its so obvious that he has no concept of character design philosophy. Its like he makes a character and says to himself "what if they could do this?" and just keeps adding more and more and more. The QA team clearly have no idea what they're doing so everything gets greenlit bugs and all. I know that if that man is behind a character Im going to pick them up day 1 lol
>>546684387i think he knows exactly what he's doing and doesn't care how that affects everything else. you don't make a character like ekko on accident
>>546684359Are you fucking retarded or something? You're acting like I personally designed the game. I play Teemo Braum and Teemo Illaoi because I like the characters, Teemo just happens to be fucked because the game is shit and the devs dont know what they're doing either from a balancing standpoint or a quality assurance standpoint. Thats nothing to do with me. Im literally agreeing with you that the character is fucked, and he's fucked because riot have made a shit game. You're just upset because you've intertwined your self worth to the game and dont like that someone has actual criticism
no matter how bad tuko is or ever getsmy gay ass is NOT going back to sf6
>>546684856Its hard to tell, he could just be autistic and never know when to stop and with how many crazy bugs have gotten through to this early access its clear the QA team arent doing their job properly. I think all the character design teams would greatly benefit from someone just telling them to calm down and rein it in with some of these character kits
babe wake up a new maxdood video just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuF2LVeGQPo
>>546684915Aww look at you, does the little timmy feel bad about being called a brainless meta fag and for beating up their fellow silver players? Maybe you'd feel a little better if your team were all wholesome chungus low tier approved characters. I know Blitzcrank makes cute whee noises when he flies through the air, maybe that might be more your speed?
>>546687158oh you're actually retarded, thats cool. Maybe someday the game wont be a mess and you can delude yourself that you have something to offer the world because the game is finally good! In the meantime Im going to keep playing the game and having fun not be a slave to the IP and cry when someone has criticism. Just remember, you'll always still be a loser irl no matter what they do with the game
>>546687158>>546688128play a set and let me watch
>>546688676He'd probably win, Im only low grandmaster and it wouldn't prove anything he's literally upset that Im playing Teemo and saying that Teemo needs to be nerfed alongside the game being shit and needing a lot of changes. He agrees that Teemo is stupid but he cant fathom someone calling his precious game shit because he's actually an irl loser
>>5466886766kpzcv9bI just played against the masters darius bro the other night and got shit on and lost every single game, so gm can't be that much worse, I need the practice against better players anyways
i can't even follow what was going on
>>546692229sometimes you just gotta post for the love of posting
I finally hit Master jesus fucking christ. Took me 2 hours straight.I'm done playing ranked until the patch, i'm only really interested in playing now if there are lobbies or some long sets. Otherwise i'm not even booting up.
>>546695889nice job
>>546683972he did Jinx too but shes ass thoughever
>>546680840>streetfighter fag who thinks fighting games can only be taken seriously when he can walk back and forwards and show off how skilled he is at walking backwards and forwards and schizo melties when walking backwards and forwards isn't rewardedzzzzzzzzwhen will this rerun end
>>546700313He's a striver, get it right.
>KOF is having a top 8>80 viewersIt can get worse than what we are, we should be grateful we aren't SNKslop
>>546695889what makes jinx so rapeable
>>546685834>liked playing ranked and had the most fun in it from a fg this year>liked ww, and waiting for new character to pair with him he likes too>only big problem character was ekko having too much good stuff and hated him>thought yas, ekko, ahri convert from stay hits too easily into full combo, other characters can't convert so easily>some characters have really good 2h while others don't>assists like ekko/ahri are too fast and lead to too much dmg>thought braum is the hardest champ to play and blitz was weak and others were mostly fine
>>546702106Can you not talk about her like that
who wants to play a set or perhaps duos (casual)
"JUST REACT!""JUST REACT!"OOOH 25 FRAMES DOESN'T FEEL SO REACTABLE NOW DOES IT YOU SOME OF A BITCH
>patch in two days>sajam already said "don't expect anything big"
https://youtu.be/dL2xePN0GRU?si=5czAE77tzuIolHFhCombo video guide on the numbers and autist rules
>>546709598desu in the patch notes it said to expect less balance changes than in the last patchBut given that literally all the most broken stuff about yas and teemo are bugs maybe they dont count as changes?fingers are coped
>>546710019honestly even if it nerfs the gods by.... 5%, i'll take it
>>546701921it is kind of crazythat game had like literally the most money ever on a single fighting game tourney and still barely anybody watches ithow does that even happen
>>546717629snk games really just cannot get popular no matter whatthey're absolutely cursedof course they also literally COULD NOT have nuked their own rep harder than adding "random soccer player with rape allegations" and "random dj literally nobody in the entire world has ever heard of" to their roster in cotw
its over 2gayofaggots...
I have found the egirls looking for duos, invest now in your duo skills
>>546721443you forgot the x
https://youtu.be/bLW5ZLL8Oyc?si=CcZnWvwZ-6MGZnU6Even wawa is playing vi ekko, is she the secret European sauce
>>546729932probably got bored and wanted to try someone else out
>>546729932>already play ekko/yasuo>ekko, by design, literally cannot be nerfed in a meaningful way without making him take 4+ touches to kill>yasuo is maybe slightly weaker but more realistically nerfable through frame data and hit/hurtboxes>remove yasuo from team ahead of the patch>pick up strong character who's probably going to look great once the top tiers get their love taps>if the yasuo nerfs aren't that bad, go ahead and resume playing himIt's patch strategy.
>the golden age of tagfighters is upon us suck it up neutral fags!says the tagretardmeanwhile>nen impact flops>2xkuso flops>tokon will probably flopthe market is sending a clear message, the majority don't like this shit.I guess it was a necessary phase to go through considering the fgc got a lot of new people with strive and sf6 and they were too open minded to tag shit not really grasping how garbage and broken they really are. Now that they had their taste and everyone is on he same page again we can all move to better games and devs can stop wasting time on a irredeemable subgenre.I will laugh my ass out if strive 2 and the avatar game manage to be bigger than 2xko
>>546732279>avatar gameliterally and unironically nickelodeon all stars brawl 3 strive 2, though, i don't think it's going to be anything significant. it might bump strive for a bit, but it's still strive. and it's probably going to be a "new" game for $60 with 2 whole added characters
>>546732629>literally and unironically nickelodeon all stars brawl 3it's not a platform fighter
>>546733853yeah, i'm saying that anyone who thinks an fg based on a fucking nickelodeon property for literal 10 year olds is gonna be "the next big fg" is out of their mind, same as the people who thought nick asb was going to be "the next melee" because it had melee tech meme shit in it
>>546734193avatar is a well respected series, the first one at least
>>546700313Do you retards just foam at the mouth and break down the second you see criticism? I know you guys are a little slow but I never once mentioned the pacing of the game or said it needs to be more like street fighter, you're just making up arguements to fight against. I even said Im having fun with the game and will continue to have fun with the game, its just a dogshit fighting game that's in a complete mess. Theres no schizo meltdown from me, its just you. game is mad shit though, its actually a terribly made fighting game with awful balance and mechanics. Maybe some of the worst in any fg I've played. Im going to laugh about it while playing Teemo though, you can keep seething and hoping that Riot do something in maybe 2-3 years
>>546738269tagretards are desperateit's been years since they got a game with a chance to not die in one week, they built this narrative about a tag resurgence and now that it's slipping away they can't cope
>>546740958I dont even think thats the case you know, I reckon the game with have a healthy playerbase and maybe even grow over the years. It will be fine, its just a fucking shit fighting game and a buggy mess. That doesn't mean you cant have fun with it, it just means that you should recognise that its a terrible fighting game that needs massive improvements everywhere
Why would you choose to make your hair look like this? anyone?
>>546744234wasn't that a subgoal?
>>546706593
>>546722956Women don't play fighting games man. Streamers are paid for it, they don't count.
>>546744234he dyes his hair for subs but can't clean his face for his gf
What time is Top 8 for that midwest slop again?
the balance isn't actually that badthink of any other fighting game,and big bodies make up ~10% of the castmeanwhile in 2xko, we have arguably halfunder normal circumstances,you would be going against 40 more characters with the mobility and tools of ekko, ahri, yasuo, vi
>>546738269>why are you inferring arguments to fight against?maybe it's because you still aren't saying anything of substance? Lmao. The most you've articulated in your posts is saying the words shit, huge issue and mess over and overI know streetfighter only has 3 actual skills to test but I didn't know that trickled down to your linguistic abilities too!
>>546754853I did, here you go: >>546639850>>546681545I literally stated my issues with some of the mechanics but you retards felt it like a prime mike tyson liver shot and decided to lash out. Dont blame me for the game being utter dogshit from a balancing, character design, and quality perspective. Its not my fault that the mechanics are as dogshit as they are, its not my fault that half the champs are buggy messes, I didn't sign off on Ekko or Yasuo being over kitted and overturned, 2X assist wasn't my decision, Teemo being bugged for half of the shit that he does wasn't me, I never once stated that the game needs to play more like street fighter you are just incapable of reading and accepting that the game is actually terrible. Doesnt mean we cant have fun with it, but its not a serious game and should be laughed at. It is legitimately a shit game from every standpoint, there isn't anything about the game where there isn't an issue. It can be a tagkuso and still have been QA tested properly but it doesn't even have that lmao
>>546732279its so sad to see strivefags throw their lot in with sfagsyou used to be oppressed yourself we used to be called slopdashersnow look at youlicking the toes of footsieniggers like it's your job*hwaktuu*i spit on your grave.
>>546756281 The most you've articulated in your posts is saying the words shit, huge issue and mess over and overthis is the post I was talking about yes.>utter dogshit because...it is>the mchanics are dogshit because....they are>the champs are all messes because.....they areXD? the only thing of substance is I didn't sign off on Ekko or Yasuo being over kitted and overturned and teemo being bugged Wow nobody else has ever said that!
>>546756369truthnuke
>>546756572>shows where I gave real criticism >ignores it because then you'd have to actually engage with the criticism you're actually retarded and cant read, btw there's a top 8 on and its barely breaking 300 viewers. My grievances with the game arent a minority opinion for the reasons I've stated but you're too afraid to actually engage with
>>546756989>I say that all you do is say the words shit huge issue and mess over and over>nuh uh no i dont look at this post>its the words shit huge issue and mess over and over>uuhhh you just ignored the real ones!!!No I didn't. I told you the actual points you made. you made two. In the biggest run on paragraph of all time. impressive
>>546757182I'll tag you in the posts again >>546639850 (You)>>546681545 (You)those are just system mechanics issues that I have, they don't even cover half the issues with the game. Are you capable of actually reading them or do you need someone to help you with that?
>>546757392I do need some help!!!!Can we go back to the last post hhere >>546756281What point's am I ignoring and didnt address???Yuo said im too retarded to engage with the criticism...please help!!!
>>546757524You're actually retarded. Do the world a favour and just kill yourself, nobody around you deserves to be in the company of anyone this dense
>>546757693Newsflash. that's all your posts bro.I know you can't actually contend with facing the facts that you have the linguistic ability of a 2 year old so you have to BACKPEDAL on offering to explain itIt's pretty sad but carry on
>>546702887personally it's the braids that does it for me
>>546758690grabbing her by the handle bars
>>546757813Legit nigger tier faggotry
>>546759030i mean to be fair your first post about fury and chip has been argued against by a lot of anons and you havent replied to them either
>>546759218Maybe because I'm not the same anon.
Strive mogs youLUHWOOOOOOF
>>546761191literally like ten minutes ago strive was getting mogged by dogura playing tuko bwo this just looks sad
>>546761435delulu coperLUHMEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOW
>>546761435dogura hasnt been live for like 10 hours
Poor little esl silver Timmy seethed so hard it had another meltdown about playing a decent zoner for the first time, maybe don't be a metafag if you will feel bad for your fellow shitter timmies playing against you
>league new champ for december>tft new set for december>2xko…..wish that were us…
What's the most scuffed team I can run in 2XKO
>>546761191Look at how the average strivetroon grasps at straws
I'm looking at this midwest whatever tournament and it's basically a local there's no big names here in the other games at all. Why is this part of the whatever impacts??
>>546766016Also Diaphone has been an mid-upper player but K7 is a top yasuo how are they losing games to literal randoms. Shows you how much variance this game has.
>>546766452Solo bros... Is duos the harder mode if k7/diaphone can't instawin games
>>546767746obviously
duo has always been worse than solo
>>546766452diaphony is a fraudK7 is good but he’s being weighed down
Confession, i just now realized that super assists cost your dead character's bar.
>>546767913Solo bros, duos won again... Our response?
>>546772167There literally, and I mean literally, were no other top players at the entire event.
>>546772000silverbwo…i hope you havent made any shitposts in ignorance..
>>546772167duos are GATEKEEPING honest solo players from masters im going to be diamondcel for life
>>546775880>tfw you're fighting a duo and beating the shit out of one of them only to realize the other guy is infinitely better than both he and yousuffering
>>546776020sitting in the back and watching you kids play
>Ahri/Ekko team finishing me off with a completely unnecessary level 3>i'm playing blitz/jinxnigga
if only our shitposters had usernames too..
i think i fucking hate this game, chat.
>>546779870>BFS getting infamous in another gamelove to see it, they grow so fast
>>546781104much like last time we were approaching a patch, i just feel stupid hopping on to get beat up by the 4 horsemen when they're going to get "le nerfed" in a few daysi'm in dailies mode rn (unless anyone here wants to duo or play a set as usual)
>>546782191yeah. i feel dumb for expecting a different experience whenever i hop on. i'll learn something new only to get fucked by one of or two of the 4. it's ridiculous and unfun and a waste of time. but i don't even expect the patch to do anything but give a slap on the wrist
there is no fucking way there are only 100 viewers
>>546782624i had a little hope until i watched sajam's video the other day where he went "yeah the top 4 aren't even that much better if you're losing to them you're just getting smoked sorry dude" and "don't expect the nerfs to be that significant"since he's so buddy buddy with riot i'm sure he not only knows what's happening but gets to directly say "errr... i might fall out of chally if you nerf ekko, please don't..." to them lol
>>546783424I think his point was mostly for goldlos and redditors who blame their losses on ekko my time when the people they’re playing are on juggernaut.He does a poor job making a distinction between when hes talking about high elo and low elo imo
>>546778232Your duo friend is fucking hilarious, how does he end up with so many clip highlights kek
>>546778232kino lmao
>>546785020i guess that does make sense. his content is also probably mostly aimed at that group to begin with
>>546785134>>546785758he has highlights,but the way he comes up with lowlights is what's impressive
whenever i see him block a burst,a tear comes to my eye :')
lf duo...
>>546782191i can duo for a little dariusbro
>>546795750awesome, ive opened a lobby we can meet in:j5j2cxk1
>>546797460ggs, I really need to work on my combos nglKept doing my weaksauce one instead of the rocket loop I labbedAlso for next time dont worry about raw tagging me in when we're fullscreenJinx loves being that far so it's pretty good 4 me
>>546801024ggs! yeah i always am unsure what to do when i have jinx as my ally and we're fighting yasuo or ww, i imagine she doesn't rly wanna be out vs them
>>546801974Idk people say Jinx loses to Yas but I've yet to fight one that actually does beat me, in masterslo it's chillEven if the turtle behind windwall you can divebomb them with the monkey or go for a crazy jump in and they usually just get smoked WW is straightforwards, mostly a skill check. Being fullscreen is just always good for Jinx no matter what really, thats where u wanna be
>>546802587sounds good then, next time i will have you show me you shooting yasuo up
the twitch page for tuko is so depressing
>>546805075i should become a vtuber
>>546783326There are 2 top players present and they're playing together. it's essentially a local.
>>546808423If you want to be a raging faggot go ahead
>>546809021i mean im already there dudei could monopolize the tuko category for noxus
2 months until pool party Cait or battle bunny riven...
i hope we get some random shit that is completely different from what's been leaked, but i think cait is the most likely just because she's already been confirmed
add plappy.
sorry, but you're getting catand by cat, i mean cait and kat
>>546821907>catReal, not fake?
real, but what you're actually getting is yuumi
bros should I revive /dbfzg/? I know you're all here
>>546825132im not learning that shit it looks 500x more fucked than this and this is already only bearably fucked because darius is in italso the combos in that one seem to be even longer on average
>>546824980Stop posting this
>>546825132Nah man it's become party game status, but yes I'm here. Haven't played in over a year and if I were to boot up it would be to fuck around, I'm not learning entirely new kusogecombos
>>546828194I think you fell for memes. They fixed the couple of party game bugs. >>546827806It's way less degenerate than 2XKO. Europeans regularly timeout because they block forever and there is little real mix.
>>546828479What rank were you
>>546828479idk man i used to watch the house of chaos streams and even at mid-level that game looks FUCKEDand, again, the combos are legit like 30 seconds long unironically
>>546828626I'm watching HoC right now and they're just shitters unironically. They refuse to block. Combos are long and you're gay if you don't like that. >>546828598>DBFZ ranked>the #1 top ranked player of all time was a notorious ragequitter who refused to take ranked losseslol, lmao even.
>>546829018What? I didn't say that to praise ranked mode or something I'm just curious if we're similar skill relax nerd. Also Pred isn't a shitter.
>>546829359I stopped playing ranked at GoD>pred isn't a shitterPlaying in that context with all these dudes screaming around you is a totally different vibe than any other tournament context. Pred has not been on his A game tonight and has been refusing to block uncharacteristically
>>546829585Yea i'm ss blue, so matches wouldn't be fun. I don't mind losing in a game I want to learn but 2026-0.1 dbfz ain't gonna be booted up for gameplay knowledge sry
hold the line... patch soon...
an oldie but a goodie
Apparently everyone was lagging at the same time?
>>546824980post more of this
>>546816348pool party aint coming out until summer
>>546825132actually ive never played dbfz because i was spiteful it came out like 4 months before bbtag and killed discussion about it foreverwas pretty dumb of me in hindsight but I was a kid ykhib
>play tuko>get hit by 1 minute combo and die instantly>go to magic locals>get hit my 10 minute combo and die instantlysigh
>>546845018
>play league of legends>get hit by 0.01 second cooldown and die instantlysigh
every time i watch footage of ekko or fight him i'm tempted to write a 5 page long diatribe on how carried he is but i don't think there's anything left to really sayi think he's more carried than any other modern fg character though. it's actually disgusting
patch notes today. i hope, anyway
>>546825132i HATE fighterz
>>546836813lol clean
it'd be cool if they had alternate level 3 animations for high dollar skins. i hope if they ever make dunkmaster darius he breaks your ankles and does a crazy ass dunk>>546856121thenks lol
good night tukoi hope i awaken to incredible patch notes
The game is fun. But, whoever is responsible for product management should be fired. It’s crazy how much hype it had during the beta.
personally i hate parry
>>546861791Meant alpha
>>546861854I think you hate yourself for getting parried.
>>546861897I think the hype from the alpha was from pure ignorance in how the systems of the game works and also a lot of good will from the community that the game would fix issues and would be a full product with features that fighting game players want on day 1 like replay take over or even something as simple as being able to scrub through replays frame by frame
>>546862018nah i think it's a gay mechanic in every game it's in.
>>546684915>Are you fucking retarded or something?yesit's the qiyana faggot and I imagine he felt what you said here>>546683012>Not being a slave to an IP because your desperate for it to give you some personality.
>>546861854Nobody like parry its just there to harp back to le epic moment 37. It generally ruins most games its added to
There’s no reason for Yasuo to have an anti-air this big
if only they'd release the dozens of characters they have ready...
why cant we queue ranked from training room yet? Why am I forced to interact with these laggy lobbies where I cant even practise combos/setups in downtime between games? How is this basic function still not in the game?
So, is the game any good?
>>546880862not really
>>546876829It was an option of what they should add in the last survey.
>>546876069none of his fucking buttons should be as big as they are
>>546885769I think they should. What feels wrong is the katana man being a mixup god instead of a poke character.
it's (not) up (yet)https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-gb/news/dev/2xko-live-balance-philosophy/
>>546886648What about Darius then? He’s supposed to be the poke character
>>546887429>As of writing this, the worst matchup in our data is 54-46%Which one is this, I'm betting it's like teemo blitz
>>546887429>our first goal is for every champion to have a fighting chance at all skill levelsthe way they can lie to us like this... inhuman
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-gb/news/game-updates/2xko-patch-notes-1-0-3-nov-18-2025/
>>546889382>Assists no longer have collision after they become invulnerable.The fixed the body blocking already nice
>>546887429>we'd prefer to make punishing Assists more reliable and rewarding without making the Assist and tag mechanics worse; and we'd rather avoid implementing systems that disincentivize disengagement, like deducting Break or Super meter for moving backwards too oftenSorry strive fags, your suggestions for just implementing negative penalty were retarded and will never happen
>>546889382>Darius' Lacerate (s2 s2 ) now does extra damage to wounded enemies as intended>looks like he's also gonna get oki on super 1niceNOW WHERE'S MY FUCKING FIX ON HEADLESS>ekko damage mostly untouched>yasuo damage mostly untouched:wilted_rose: well at least yasuo super assist is slower now... patch is pretty eh though. as expected they're fucking terrified to actually change these characters very much
>>546890568It's ok, the 2XGayO don't understand how Negative Penalty works anyway if they think it's just moving backwards "too often".
>>5468911392XGayO devs, fuck me for being retarded
>>546889382>not a single peep about airblockstunit's OVER
>>546891125as for the blitz buffs:>s2 projectile destruction now might actually workniceaaaaand that's it. everything else is either useless (making air s2 plus is meaningless when it's still this easy to hit him out of) or placebo (faster steam gen isn't going to matter on his damage specials, the neutral steam charge speedup may be ok but overall who asked for this)still gonna play him but man
>>546889382>Yasuo air down H no longer special cancelable and is super unsafe on block nowFinally, fuck double overhead into crossup>2h hitbox got nerfedI need a comparison Pic of this plz
>>546892616>super unsafe on block now-6**unpunishable by the less-privileged except by grabbing
> Bandle Dash (-> S1)>Frame advantage has been decreased by 3. It was 0 on block and is now -3.>Charged Bandle Dash frame advantage has been increased by 13. It was -11 on block and is now +2.These devs have no idea what they're doing. I am actually done. Please stop giving them your time and money and play literally any other game.>but anon that change makes perfect sense!Totally agreed so how the fuck did the character get in with it fucked up and backwards in the first place? They have no idea what they want moves to do or how frame advantage should work in any situation.
>>546893094you're right about the devs being fucking stupid lolunfortunately this game is more fun than dix so i will be playing it
>>546893094it was literally a bug anon, we've known this alrady
>>546893721Eat shit you slug brained slop eater. Every character's patch notes are separated into two categories of "changes" and "bug fixes" and that change isn't in "bug fixes".
>>546893896>erm the layout of the patchnotes has triggered meokay? the lead dev on teemo said so two months ago idc what the intern putting the notes into chatgpt did
>>546894094source?>my assthanks anon, you were really helpful today now fuck off
>>546894170hyg anonyou can concession now
>>546894312This has absolutely nothing to do with the change in the patch notes, holy shit you're retarded. Nobody ever lists frame data assuming either character is in the air, are you being serious right now?
>>546894413anon. The framedata for both stand S1 and J.S1 on block is the same. It's 0 on block either way, that's literally what we have been complaining about for fucking weeksthe bug is that stand s1 was being treated as js1 and cancelling landing recovery yes.
>>546889382>ekko 2x assist no longer goes full screen and ball duration got nerfedSorry zoner ekkos, let's see if people start picking other assists now
>>546894312>>546894664seriously now please use your brain>we fixed the bug that made it so that aerial f.S1 cancelled its recovery>so now that means grounded charged f.S1 is +13 more advantageous than before???? how does that work ????
>>546894740my time is 2 frames slower, it's still completely unreactable. the distance and hitbox changes sound good but i don't think this is gonna do that much
>>546895003i want to see the hitbox nerfs before I make a judgementIf it's as much smaller as it sounds then that's totally fine the issue was mainly that they could just be ignorant and mash itand being parryable on block is also really good
>>546894814>>546893094Literally everything about Teemo was bugged so yeah. The J.2M forcing stand was also a bug but they put it into the balance changes too for some reason.Also there's nothing in the patchnotes about his damage scaling and his shovel into tag launcher always workingI guess those bugs are just too fucking hard to fix or something? That sounds insanely retarded of them
>>546895886it's really weird that>you didn't respond to the concrete point about removing recovery cancellation somehow granting +13f advantage to charged Bandle Dash>the dev is being really explicit about this being for jf.S1 unless you're saying that every use of f.S1 is a jf.S1 and the dev just didn't think that was worth mentioning I think this is a comprehension problem on your end
>Ekko got a slap on the wrist and mostly nerfed at low lever>Double down Teemo got destroyed>Yasuo got decimatedIt's so funny how the devs keep destroying their own game to play favorites with Sonicfox and his friend group, had two years playing Ekko, who has every single tool in the game and still had to run to the devs to mega nerf the team he lost to, should've seen it coming with Yohosie in the dev team lmao
>>546896089Supposedly he was writing these tweets on the train so I am giving him some credit here yes. He was directly replying to some guy sperging about teemo combos and blockstrings so the fact he's mainly mentioning J.S1 can easily just be referring to a specific combo. I'm not going to get autistic about it, the dev even admitting that it was their team's incompetence that they made the most broken fg character of all time is already a pretty big concession from them anyways
>>546889382>teemo instant overhead no longer solo combos without assistsRush down teemo got worse, but burning brush oki still lives>they gave teemo super the jinx treatmentSurely from this point on they're going to make all full screen projectile supers like this, and not do the riot special of releasing things turbo broken for launch hype just to nerf it later right
>>546896518Even if they didn't nerf it, the parry system mechanic already destroyed double down tag supers forever
>>546896489right but there's a really important point here that I think you're missing1. Devs release the game with Bandle Snatch (uncharged) being neutral on block (irrelevant if it should've been -3 for the following numbered point)2. At the same time CHARGED Bandle Snatch was -11 (heavily punishable)3. They have now made uncharged Bandle Snatch -3 and charged Bandle Snatch +2Unless you're arguing that the entire reason that charged had worse frame advantage than uncharged was a bug you missed the forest for the trees and are ignoring the bigger problem. They have no fucking idea why certain things should be advantageous in fighting games or how frame advantage influences player choices because they don't understand fighting games.
>>546894814>>546896826this was somehow a bug i dont see how teemo being -11 can't be
>>546897028They changed Teemo's by 13 frames, you're drawing relationships between things that you don't have the data to support. Clearly you don't care what I have to say so why even respond? Just filter the posts
>>546896775>parry on physical hit gives a full screen shockwaveThat's only for people trying to run in and do a block string mixup right, and not just parrying the full super for free on any projectile hit?
>>546897174? Teemo's dash was 0, meant to be -3If charged dash was originally meant to be +2 and then made 0 and then another bug gave it -11 frames of recovery then that perfectly equatesalso please get it on the record im not giving them credit here they are absolutely retarded for letting this through to live. Im just saying we've known this character has been completely broken and bugged for weeks already
HOW is this a bug lmaoyou retards just forgot
>>546897645>? Teemo's dash was 0, meant to be -3>If charged dash was originally meant to be +2 and then made 0 and then another bug gave it -11 frames of recovery then that perfectly equatesThat would add up if that's how cancelling recovery by landing worked but cancelling recovery doesn't make +2 go to 0, it would just be +2 or better.>im not giving them credit here they are absolutely retardedActual implementation bugs are a much smaller deal than the devs fundamentally having no idea what they're doing. Since I'm dooming obviously I have a motivation to portray this as ineptitude rather than implementation bugs.
>>546898039>cancelling recovery doesn't make +2 go to 0, it would just be +2 or betteruntil we add on the -11 bug so it would be a total of -9 at its worst if it was the same bug as Yasuo, sorry for not making this tail-end of the reasoning clearer but the math still doesn't math
>>546898039Okay sorry for going down this autistic road. I concession, the le math doesn't work. But anyway I didn't mean to imply it was the exact same bug. the point was originally that you didn't believe that a move randomly having an extra 10 frames of recovery could be possible when it's all over the patchnotes, I remember a bugfix last patch that also removed 10 frames of recovery. The core point that the change is listed not as a balance fix but as a bug fix is what I originally meant to address. Pic related has been known to be a bug but they put it into balance changes for some reason. So who cares
>>546898745>the core point isyou're probably right, didn't realize they had 10f+ implementation bugs all over the place>so who caresobviously me as I sit here and seethe uncontrollably
Timmy WON
>no more retarded triple overheadsgame might be saved
>>546897587YeahIt's talking about melee parry, that one would stun assists or points that were near but not ones that were far, pretty good fix
I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO WAKEUP BLOCK WITHOUT TRIGGERING A BACKROLL JUST CHANCE ONE BUTTON FFS HOW HARD IT IS?
is this the ugliest ranked reward of all time?>>546900405just get used to it brothat's how smash works if the smashers can do it why cant you
>>546896403>Ekko got a slap on the wristIf his assists are truly much worse and he isn't the best teammate for every character than I'm coping it'll be good enough I dont mind him being the best character in the game he just shouldnt be the only choice in the game
>ahri untouchedim killing myself
>>546900554i can but i don't like it, there is no real reason for it to be like that and it's a one minute fix
>>546901335Im sorry to say there is a real reason and it's called boomers
Do the blitz changes save him? Any blitzfags around
>>546902312HAHA. No
SURELY we take this right anonsthe competition is not real
>>546887429>while champions that scale heavily with a player's technical skill like Ekko, Yasuo, and Ahri tend to do better at the advanced level of play>Ahri got no big nerfsSorry, riot thinks your problems with Ahri are just a skill issue
>>546889382>All this wait for minimal changes>Despite the fact that the majority of problems have been here since fucking alpha 2Fuck this>B-But they nerfed Ekko and Yasuo a bitNo
>>546902527fatal fury wins via saudi moneysorry, 2xko friend..
>>546903178meh if they keep this pace of 1.5 months for a patch bigger than SF6's once per 6 month patches then in only 4 patch cycles we'll be 2 years ahead of them
>>546902312Blitz apparently has one of the higher win rates at lower ranks, so they're never going to drastically change him
There's no Vi combo that leads to S1 super? I really like the buster wolf more.....
>>546904198Not in her bnbs, it's pretty much just a neutral tool. And you can use it to confirm off of her counter or uncharged 5S1 when solo.I do do this unoptimal combo off of my jinx minigun though where you get a Vi assist, rocket into S2 mash, charged S1 into S1 super. it's super ass but its fun
I cannot do Vi electrics. I'm too old....
>>546905357;-;practice makes perfect bwo
>>546905357practice for 2 hours, get a good night's rest, practice for 2 hours, get a good night's restIf you're really fucking old you need to repeat a couple of times but it's just a timing that you control. No reactions required.
>>546905357post agei'm 35 and i learned in one hour. And i'm not a tag autist i'm a striver
>no real nerfs to teemos/ekkos/ahris multiple super combo routesgame is finished. teemo will kill the game in the next month. marlinpie admits that teemos s2 super has bugged damage scaling and uninteded launcher routes and they still dont fix this garbage.
>>546904198I think s2 and cancel the last hit into s1 super works, I'm pretty sure I've seen some players do that
>riven gets into OW before she does 2xkogg
my ekko friend said the nerfs were excessive and the devs have it out for him lol>all 3 assists nerfed>timewinder nerf>super1, super3 nerf>2m nerf>crouching hurtbox nerfsounds like a lot, but he's finemy time my time is still goodtimewinder is still too goodsuper1 still adds a ton of damage
>>546908580>cool ass gladiator/Greek/Roman-esque chickThis is all it took to sell me on Marisa and I hate playing as women in games>not even uglywow that's impressive>overwatch 2lmaooooooooooooooooooo
Is this game more about playing the system mechanics than playing the character
>>546889382>Vi’s Cease and Desist (Ultimate) is no longer missing some VFX.Big change, did riot ever say her ult animation was bugged?
How on earth are you complaining about combo length you've gotta be a street fighter player or striver holy shit the combo length is fine it's like 15 hits max and like 5-8 if you're darius or blitzcrank.People are mentally ill, this is pure redditbrain.
Are ranks resetting or what?
>>546902312absolutely notthey actually make him stronger at shitter level (the rank where he's already good) and do basically nothing for him at high level. the improved projectile destruction is nice but it's not going to save himt. gm darius/blitz looking into a new assist character
It's officialI am the most HONEST player in 2xkoNot even the braumfags can one up my level of low tier team
>>546911231>it's like 15 hits max and like 5-8 if you're darius or blitzcrankyasuo does 25 hits solo but here's darius bnb loli don't find most combos obnoxiously long but some really are (yasuo/ahri/teemo/ekko especially when they meter dump)>>546905743yeah it's a shame that they're not doing anything about that. genuinely it's really disappointing
>>546916351>25 hitsI'm talking about buttons pressed not hits, that wouldn't make sense as some supers in combos rack up several hits. There is no combo length in this game that is too long, those complaining are legitimately new to fighting games or mentally retarded.
unfortunately this game is going to take a while to be fully fleshed out. I'm getting major Overwatch 2 vibes. Come back in 4 years for an actual video game.
>>546912289when the battle pass ends they will
>>546917595oh, i'm talking about time durationyeah idk it's not too bad for the most part but once you get into the top 4 doing multiple supers in one combo, tag launcher, double down super tag etc. they do get pretty long
>>546908580>riven but brownI don't think there's a lot of good tomboy gladiator designs they could have used to look different, but did they really need to give her the sword too
>>546905743they said they didnt have enough time to fix those things and it'll be in the next patch (aka season 1)pretty mega fucked up of themteemo ahri is absolutely going to be top 1chrisG.... won....ahri has no mix.....
>>546918656her sword even gets bigger and shoots a windblade out of itIt's pretty blatant
idk man i'm feeling pretty demotivatedthe blitz buffs are all targeted at subhuman elo where people are too shit to anti-air the single worst move in the gamethe ekko nerfs are targeted at shitlo and they don't address anything he does at high levelyasuo damage nerfs unimpressive and the scaling aspect of it is completely pointless when he's an open world character that will easily route around it and he's gonna end up doing the same amount of damage he already doesteemo's damage being untouched is literally a jokeno ahri nerfs despite everyone knowing how busted she is for quite some timeno braum changes at all despite him being completely unplayed with the exception of literally one personidk man it is really not looking good out there lol
>Assists no longer have collision after they become invulnerable.riot, fix your fucki-
>>546893094Hitboxes and Frame Data are made by AI / RNGit is known
-ng outplayed, kidgg ez
>>546920624braum doesnt need to be directly buffedwatching lightwhisp's stream he thinks the issue with braum is just the ahri and ekko 2x assist being unwinnable matchupsWith ekko 2x assist getting nerfed that's probably the biggest buff to braum that could happen beyond the removal of ahriahri and teemo definitely do need to get shot to death though that's for sure
so little recovery..
>>546921873lmaoyeah that move is fucking ridiculous. did you know it also beats getup attack>>546921437ekko 2x assist nerfs i'll need to see in action. i don't think they're going to be anywhere near as significant as people are expecting, even though the list of changes is a mile long
>>546920624every character is roughly within a 3% winrate differentialthe game isn't that unbalancedyou're just shifting blame to character power levels, instead of just focusing on getting better yourself
>0 nerfs to freestyle Ekko/burrito mixupEpic nerfs riot
>>546922119yeah yeah here it comes. "the winrates bro we can trust riot even though there's no public way for us to access the data. please ignore every top 8 at every weekly and major for the last 2 months: the game is fully balanced and you're just not trying hard enough"patooey!
>>546897174>Clearly you don't care what I have to say so why even respond?that dude's whole personality is being a slave to riot and rabidly defending 2xko
>>546903608>we'll be 2 years ahead of them>in only 4 patch cyclesNot in the state we're in
>>546923221Many such cases, strangely.
I see the poor little schizophrenic doomtroon silver Timmy is still losing it
>>546921873this game's frame data is highly schizophrenic, there's stuff that has no reason to have so little recovery and stuff that has no reason to have so high recovery
>>546922085> even though the list of changes is a mile longif they can write that much and it still doesnt change anything then yeah the game is fucked
>only 4 new chromasthe fuckwhere are the rest of them
>>546924343very excited to get a new darius color i'll never use
>sajam on stream talking about "don't worry guys, the NEXT patch will have the real changes"bro
>ekko mytime is officially in warwick overhead levels of reactableit is now a skill issue if you cannot parry it im sorry to say
>>546924983>19f is reactable
I still think they should've just let you break timewinder by hitting itI dont see the problem with that If they want to preserve the combos he gets from it and let him bat it around then why not just let the enemy interact with it too? It makes him only worse at zoning which he shouldnt be good at, it makes him more punishable if he's predictable with trying to zone with it, it makes his back assist a lot worse and in line with Teemo mushroom or Jinx chomper assistI dont get it man
>>54692516918f is reactable.
>>546925198just because it comes out in like 10 frames and sits on the screen for like 3 seconds and if it touches you, even uncharged, he has 9 seconds to confirm into a full combo doesnt mean it isnt fairhe needs itmarlinpie's vision
>>546925934acktually marlinpie did not design ekko blame these guys
>>546922510i said 'the game isn't THAT unbalanced'ekko yasuo ahri and teemo are strong,but not that much strongerand now that they're nerfed, they're more in line with the rest of the cast
>>546927398brother even sajam had to admit that teemo is 99% unchanged and getting away with murderit's a second nothing patch after the first nothing patch the game is exactly what the devs want it to be and it's staying that way. it's still the best modern fg so i'm playing it regardless but again, look at not just "any" top 8 but "every" top 8
>>546928027>the game is exactly what the devs want it to be and it's staying that way.I have no idea why marlinpie went onto twitter and said all the shit he did about teemo being bugged though the only thing out of all the stuff that he said that actually got fixed was the j2M standing thing and 6s1 being 0 which is good but I think these guys are just retarded or have the shittest debug programmers of all time something
if the winrates are close and the game isn't that unbalanced, then it's even worsebecause people are mistaking the characters being cancer for strength
>>546928559sajam was saying the patch prob went finalized in like mid-october and teemo players just kept finding new tech/bugs so that's why the patch is so pitiful
the game to takeDOWN 2xko..
>>546928894idk why gamedevs do that shit eitherhow can you not just be like >oh shit well we're too retarded to figure out how to fix teemo's broken damage scaling >guess we just drop the base damage of shroom super 10x or something to compensatehow many weeks do you need to lock that in? idk
for real though if your biggest problem with this game is that X character is too strong and not the broken foundation on which the entire game is built on like frame data and system mechanics then it turns out you're retarded
>>546928027>teemo is 99% unchanged and getting away with murderis teemo in every top8? nois yasuo ekko in eveyr top8? yesyasuo and ekko got nerfed, right?teemo got nerfed less, right?even if you wanted to go by muh top8 metrics,it seems like they targeted the characters to an appropriate degree
>>546929731this being an f2p game, you cannot alienate your players by nerfing their characters so badly that they just drop the game. people who knowingly play bad characters will hang in there either way, but people who are getting carried by idk "Yeah i make the worst decision every fucking time but it doesn't matter i can rewind it" will absolutely run if they have to actually learn to play
>teemo nerf to instant overhead and super tag mix only>jinx untouchedZoning won, this is riots vision
>>546930426ok but the dev going on twitter and explaining everything is bugged and not intended surely means they will change it eventuallyI get being doomer about it but tierwhores will move on to the next tierwhore thing it's what they do
>>546920624>the ekko nerfs are targeted at shitlo and they don't address anything he does at high levelWhy do you fucking faggots lie I don't get it. Post your time with the game right now.His top two complaints were timewinder and mytime assist. One got a nerf because otherwise his combos wouldn't work, and the other got gutted. His 2M is punishable and proximity guard removal is big. His big damage combos all use his super mid-combo and that got nerfed."Not used at high level" shows you don't know what the fuck you're talking about you stupid cunt post your in game profile what rank/char levels are you?
>>546922278This isn't foolproof mix and it maybe hits 25% of the time in pro games
are all skins fucking 20€+? i'm not a poorfag but damn...
When is the patch where Blitzcrank detransitions from a tranny back to a male robot like he was for the first 10 years?
>>546938393nigga what tf u talking bout
>yasuo supertag goes to 30 frames of startupthank god they did something
>>546938838call it properlyit's either super assist or last stand (is this depreciated?)supertag refers to "calling an assist, using a 'super', then 'tagging' out"
>>546943124stfu superfag
I kinda just want new skins bros..I want project Vi and Jinx for robo shimaidon
i want immortalized risen ahrii want kitty cat katarinai want kda akali
>>546938838honestly best change of the patch>>546932920your main is going to be fine calm down
>>546945691nta but hes kinda right, what would be a high level aimed ekko nerf then? Damage I guess but it seems they arent willing to nerf damage substantially to avoid the AL2 thing, I think they hit almost everything else Ekko does though
>>546945987damage is the main thing i want hit, a character with every option, the best mobility, rewind memes, the best projectile, the best assists, the best oki, etc etc doesn't need to be two touching people even if he meter dumpsi don't think the 2x assist nerfs are going to be meaningful, the only one that's got potential is distance covered but even then, just call him when you're 5 pixels closer and you won't feel a change. timewinder duration nerfs are nice but ultimately don't change much either: a good ekko isn't sitting there hoping you walk into it, it still gives a full combo, it doesn't scale your combo to do less, etc so it's still the best projectile in the game. it IS nice that it no longer triggers proximity guard thoughi understand seeing a huge wall of text and going "oh no my guy is fucked" but genuinely he is not losing a significant amount of power in this patch. he'll be like 2% less scrubby
>>546946868Ok. so there's nothing other than damage they can hit that you would get happy about? I get the sentiment and I think they should hit the damage, but I'm pretty happy they're still hitting most of his issuesSo long as his assists are inline with the rest of the assists in the game that's an improvement, no? I cant imagine all of those nerfs dont make them at least average compared to ahri assist or darius tackle, those are primo assists that also come out sub 20 frames, travel half the screen and lead to full conversions too.And if he has to work that much harder in neutral compared to other characters it'll eventually pay off, 2M being whiff punishable is pretty obviously high elo targeted. I'm of the mind that he should just get some more of his normals tacked down a peg with similar nerfs and he'd probably be okay. Also he should lose that stupid plus on block super blockstring that shit is retarded
zoners are so goddamn broken man picunrelated
ekko should keep his current damage, mixup, mobilitybut the real nerf he needs (but won't receive) is to make his projectile NEVER timestop on hitwhen used in neutralleave it useable as combo fodder,but don't let him have a jinx zap at zero cost
>>546945691>No response or profile postAs expected.
>>546944515>500 dollar ahri skinwould you really buy her
>>546951156(i bought her already on league, and i hate leagueand i'll do it again on 2xko)
>>546951490i kneel waifugawd...
>>546947810i pretty hardline just want damage nerfs more than anything else. AL2 situation? if they do that shit to themselves then fine. riot said when you pick your team they want you to be making choices. when i choose darius, i am accepting that i'm slow, have trouble getting in in certain mus, and don't have much mix without relying on my assist. when i pick blitz, i acknowledge that, again, certain mus are so bad that no assistcan save me, but if i can make them block one 2m i can potentially snowball a win and get some shit goingwhat concessions are ekko players making? same with the other top tiers>>546950758darius/blitz gm 1500ish games. i can send a pic when i get home in like 30 lol
Guys, I don't think they're taking the game in the direction I would like.
>>546954971Don't worry, they're not taking the game in any fucking direction by the looks of it
>>546954971I'll make that distinction when they put out Zed and I see what his clone super looks like
>>546887429>makes a whole article gaslighting your players into thinking they're wrong if literally any other studio tried to pull this they'd get so much shit for it
>>546890568>we'd prefer to make punishing Assists more reliable and rewardingSo uuhWhen are they doing that????
>>546953985yea i think the concession should be in regards to lower hp and his neutral buttons and his assists being averageobviously they arent right now in any regard but if they steer him in that direction I can live with his damage being overtuned is all desu
>>546890568>we'd prefer to make punishing Assists more reliable and rewarding without making the Assist and tag mechanics worse; and we'd rather avoid implementing systems that disincentivize disengagement, like deducting Break or Super meter for moving backwards too often>Hit assist>Opponent just backdashes away and the assist is back by the time you cross 25% of the distance between you guys at bestYeah about that...
>assists now take 2x damage>can now die to eating two braum shockwaves or jinx supers in a row or getting happy birthdayed oncethoughts? game saved no? assists are still strong but now you can make them eat shit for trolling them
>>546955737yeah, and i think it's actually very unlikely that he ever gets significant damage nerfs purely because of their "chars must be viable at all levels" idea: a bronze ekko player is going to need like 5+ touches to kill as-is, they're not going to make it any worse than thatfrankly though, if they really do want to be all about selling the "fantasies" of certain champs then i really would prefer "slightly lower damage" over hitting his crazy trademark stuff that makes him a cool character. low hp isn't really ideal to me: that always makes me think of how akuma's historically pretty fucked up despite his low hp (even though this is a completely different game/genre)lowering the power of his neutral buttons could be fine, but i don't really see them doing that either desui've done a LOT of bitching about this patch but ultimately we'll just have to wait and see. i think the game's fun and i'll take what they give me>>546950758here u go. my rp is ass right now because i got the living fuck kicked out of me by everyone i played this afternoon lol
impressive how the Qiyana nigger singlehandedly brings down the quality of the thread just from his sheer reality bending retardation
>>546955839>by the time you cross 25% of the distance Sounds like a personal problem to me big body fag
>>546955839>hit assist>backdash away and pepper him with rockets and then cross him up when he gets impatienti dont see the issue here
>>546956278I wish they would tone down some broken moves like timewinder, but keep their tools, speed, etc, while toning down damage from the pixies and increasing health for the big bodies. Want to play a character with amazing tools and crazy mix? Fine, but you'll need 3 or 4 touches to kill, unless you pair him with a lower tier character with good damage.That's the magic of team games this game is lacking.
>>546956570i bet im higher ranked than you, thomas
>>546957095yeah that's pretty much where i'm at. if it's a "team" game then the teambuilding aspect should matter more than just "i picked the two best guys regardless of their synergy"
>>546932134You don't understand anon, we're not shit at designing the game, everything that's wrong design wise is obviously just a bug that we know about and it will not be fixed ASAP in the next nothingburger patch that we release every 3 months.
>>546958494what most devs do is lock themselves in japan and let shit like throw loops exist in the game for 2 years straight so yeaIf a dicks dev ever said that throw loops were a bug I'd fucking take that shit to the bank
>>546959103>what most devs doSF6 devs are extreme even by nip fighting game dev standards
>>546959169strive devs also pretty much ignored the rest of the world for balance issues for quite some time. like they did NOT care that umisho was freeing everyone up with busted ass hc
I think I'd prefer seeing a dev say that HC bullets being hitscan was a bug that'd be great to hear I'd have been jumping up and down
>>546959569HC got major nerfs over and over againThe problem was the character was designed to be broken from the ground up, the fuck you mean 1f moves that can start combos, are always plus and can even be done during other moves
>>546958494apparently we're getting patches ever 5 weeksIt's nearly once a month actually not sure if this is going to go that well
>alt f4ing the night before your main gets nerfedOH NONONONONO IONIAN SISSIES YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE FUCKING SAFE?
>>546959969every 5 weeks sounds insane desu. i'm not sure about that... i def want more patches than some garbage like sf6 but almost-monthly is a lot>>546959798yeah, he started getting nerfs in like s3 or so after a random 12 year old made evo jp top 8 with him lol
>>546956148Yes because I think it'd be really funny to one shot an assist because I jinx lvl 3 full screen
caitlyn sexo
>>546963696Miniskirt caitlyn my beloved, you were gone too soon
As everyone seemed to predict, having californian marvel boomers make your fighting game for you is the peak of retardation. I myself would at least have tried a 1v1 League fighter.
https://youtu.be/-VCJV0DNnWY?si=fC_e4HqSzrawz0T4I finally found some footage of the secret hidden tech for blitz players, round start blitz s2 super tagYou can also completely smoke Yasuo cross up dash by grabbing them out of it apparently, so that's good to know
>>546902968>>546901226>>546838401I should rub one out
>>546966435lolthat's pretty funny, even if he doesn't really get anything out of it other than damage it does force the other player to stop acting like a fucking freak on round start
this shit is so dead
>>546959569i think the strive balance team was simply made by incompetent newbies. They learned as time passed and it seems they are finally growing a brain. HC is fundamentally unfixable without a big rework tho
>>546973307i don't really know anything about strive's dev team or who's on it or their credentials or whatever but that sure is how it feltstrive was fun but man...and then they added wild assault and i dipped
>>546973307>>546973394the strive gameplay guy is a literal nobody, no one knew who he was when he showed up, he sucked dick to the top of the company.for xrd it was pachi, an og strong player, but then rev2 was boring as fuck and later I ran into a japanese article and for rev2 they had replaced pachi with the same retard from strive, that explained so much.the retard even bragged at the beginning of strive that he doesnt know what hes doing.either way all that still work at arcsys are sellout shotstains, including pachi who wouldnt nerf zato cause his friend played him and who after xrd worked on granpoo, one of the most dumbed down fighters ever.if a good fighting game will ever be made again then its gonna be indie
>>546974118>if a good fighting game will ever be made again then its gonna be indiethe thing is, even if an indie fighter does end up being good, it'll die because it doesn't have a big name behind it. NOBODY would be playing dix and taking it seriously if it didn't have the sf name and crapcum money behind it
>>546975805I don't think so, and even paid marketing can only get a game so far.Like the majority of the sf4 playerbase quit sf5 and fighting games altogether. the current sf players are mostly new school tards who grew up on paid shilling and bad gameplay, but these kind of players arent faithful, as soon as the shilling will stop they will be gone, and I don't know if crapcom is making enough money off of them to justify their shill campaign long term.the same thing happened with strive, the majority of the xrd playerbase quit when strive got released, they didn't move to other fighters cause all fighters nowadays are ass, there was some attempt with that shit melty blood type lumina but they quit that one too.all of the current playerbases are artificial af.but for a game to last and have a decent playerbase they don't need an insane marketing campaign, they need to create an actual good experience.the problem is that most indie devs nowadays just try to copy big games, they don't think for themselves and they don't improve the experience for the players at all.I'm not just talking solid gameplay and a good artstyle but also basic things like an actual good lobby instead of the crappy ones where you waste time walking around the maple story world, a ranked system that works, leaver penalty for the leaver not for both (this is easy to implement yet no retard does it).they should stop with the zoomed in camera, dumbed down controls, slow movement, disgusting artstyles, comboboar gameplay and stolen mechanics from other games they liked with no thought behind if they fit or not.RTS are way harder to get into than fighters yet they have more players, think about that.
how long are the servers down for?
>>546959969Did they say something in the matter? I assume they're patching a lot because it's early access. When the game is actually out, I think they'll patch as they release new characters.
>>546977152Im being genuine here, although I agree with everything you said I think that steamchart numbers is more impactful than anything else. SF would be popular within the fgc no matter what but when people see that its the most popular they are more likely to pick that game up and play it, further boosting the numbers. The game from a pure gameplay sense is just bad, frankly irredeemable, but the fact that a bunch of jappas kids can finally win with throw loops so they play it over any other fg makes the game look more successful than it actually is. If steamcharts didnt exist more people would try a wider variety of fg games but with how things are what people do is look at day 1 player count numbers to see if they should bother with trying the game out in the first place
>>546984181yeah, i know sf fags willingly subject themselves to that dogshit>anti airs are so bad>these combos are too hard>throw loops are so lame>drive impact is so scrubby>drive rush is so braindeadjust quit being chartfags and play something better
>>546978860Still down globallyThe servers were lagging yesterday too, so it might be down for a while
>>546984181well, the way I see it steamcharts don't actually matter if the game is good.the reason is that the people that are turbo casuals and who aren't into fighters don't really care about them or even know they exist, I'm talking about the most absolute of casuals here, like I very much doubt that the average tekken player looks at steamcharts.and the players that want a really good game will look at the gameplay, these people I expect to not pick up the game only if it's actually completely dead and at that point the game deserves it.
>>546984181what's the difference between throw loops in sf5 and sf6?
6 people streaming tuko right now. Leffen is playing league, second most viewed is some guy playing DM in valorant, one person playing TFT, and one playing simpsons fortnite
>>546982628welp you're wrong
>>546995656nta but I've played my fair share of indie games that die out, and most people do spam look at them.It's made worse by fighting games having smaller numbers to begin with, but most games that have an average of 4k or so will constantly have people show up and ask if the game is going to die soon.In the age of live service games people have gotten used to scoping out games before they try them, nobody wants to buy a battlepass for a game that dies of course, but it does make fighting games look unappealing to normals
steamcharts are a mistakenumbersposting is a mistakenumbersposters not being publicly executed is a mistaketwitchviewershipposting is a mistaketuko is a mistakeplay FOOTSIES
>>547001595>servers are literally down
patch SOON
hot skins where
>>547010023
let me in, riot..
game's playable offline, thoughtesting out the changes now
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>>547022408get nerfed idiot
>>547022408Post 2h hitbox
post nerf backshots damage
>>547024314i don't recall what it used to look like
am i crazy or did the ranks get reset why am i fighting complete shitters all of a sudden
it's not that different?i'd guess the startup going from 11f to 14f is going to hurt more
>>547024979nevermind it put me in a casual lobby despite queuing for ranked
>>546973307>i think the strive balance team was simply made by incompetent newbieswait a minute now, what game does this remind me of...
the yasuo js1s1s2 bugfix brought back charged H otg oki :')(though limit strike oki is more in vogue now, anyway)
>>547024691the disjointed boxes look so weird
i was expecting super1 to no longer work off of js2, post bugfixbut apparently he still gets to keep that? lolso his corner damage is still really good
>>547024330>still TodsDid the change only mean you have to spend more meter now?
>>547003435If patching this frequently will mean only limp dick nerfs like this patch, that sucks.The devs are so afraid to kill the top tiers they don't seem to realize they could give them double the nerfs and they would still be upper tier. They're like overprotective moms that believe their kids can't do no wrong
>>547025006>>547024691Mostly lost x-axis range in front of him and seems like it doesnt go all the way over his head anymore i guess?the animation is now a total lie though lmao
>>547027253>the devs will only do small changes in patches every 3 months>the devs will only do super-small changes in patches every 1 monthsok so next you'll say >the devs are doing changes way too big what the fuck are they doing why are they buffing illaoi so muchright
how fun is vi?i play ahri/jinx and i'm bored af of ahri. I play her only for the airdasher movement but her kit is lame and now i don't wanna relearn new bnbs
>>547028616I like vishe's kind of a low IQ characterYou press your 5S1 punch, they block it, they are now plus but in reality you've put them in a sickening gameIf they press a button you just cancel into her invul super and punish them for thinking they were plusIt's kinoI was watching this grandfinals match where this one Vi even pressed the super when he wasnt even punishable my goat
>>547024330>borderline unchanged:)!!!!
2xko devs are so retarded frequent patches work well in league because there are 100+ chars and you only change like 10 every 2 weeks what the fuck are they going to do with 11 chars every month lmfao
>>547029564see >>547027253frequent patching literally isn't going to matter, they decrease character power by .1% and think that's good
>>547029794i mean yeah they can't do anything with that small roster why even take that approach, they're so cluelesspeople don't hate them enough
>hop on to check the new darius change: s2s2 now does extra damage if the opponent is bleeding>regular damage without bleed: 178>new damage with bleed: 182>lmao that's literally nothing not even worth mentioning what the fuck>okay well let's check out the super 1 oki changes>it's literally unchanged i hate these faggot fucking devs so fucking much dudei expect nothing and i'm still disappointed
>>547028363I just want then to fix the game now while they have the chance. At this pace, the top 4 will just kill the game before it gets to a good state.
>>547030618>remember picrel changes to blitz>go in training mode to check them outso when they said "fully charged it's now +" they meant FULLY charged. as in, the final hit of the final repetition of the move is now plus. let me ask you something: do you think anyone is ever going to sit there and block all of that? i'm putting this on catbox to maintain visibility of the frame data.are we being so fucking for real right now?https://files.catbox.moe/r25nbr.mp4
>>547032635Sorry, blitz changes are for the timmies, they're not going to make the restand bot some high tier character ever
>>547033648yeah i'm dropping him
>>547032635just do an elaborate 3 second freestyle loop combo so he comes down fully charged to hit them meaty duh
>>547032635desu this was probably just a bugfix I would imagine something that takes 3 seconds to charge wasnt meant to be negative
>>547034248while that's probably theoretically possible i'm not putting in 900x the work when i can idk press 5s1 on vi and make them guess for their life or some shit>>547034436sure, but also why even bother making that change and calling it a buff? i've got 1200 games on the character and i can tell you right now that above iron, nobody is blocking that for half an hour without pressing a button. fuck these devs dude
>>547032349There was a lot of good bug fixes and changes, assist collision was fucking terrible, even as a casual timmy I ran into that way more than anything related to the top tiers
yasuo s1 s1 s2 super is a bug ???? bro what are they doing
>>547030618the darius super1 change is supposed to be about doubledown, not about his oki
>>547036508they didn't say as much in the notes. i can't even remember the last time i doubled down into that and not headless lol
gotta come up with so many combos after these nerfs :/
well i did make an extremely funny discoveryheadless still doesn't destroy projectilesHOWEVERsuper assist headless DOES destroy projectilescompletely pointless but still pretty fucking funnyhey riot you fucking retards can you put that on the actual usable version of the move please lol
>>547038460Normal headless doesnt do that?Im pretty sure I see people press headless in response to teemo rocks or timewinders or whatever
i definitely wanted to back jump
>>547038918we do press headless in response to projectiles sometimes, if it's just to try getting a kill or if teemo's got a screenfull of mushrooms set up because hitting him will remove themhowever, it doesn't destroy projectiles. i've got webms of it interacting with almost every projectile in the game but here's a really clear example lol
>>547038460>>547039575I would guess hurtboxes work differently for super assists
pre patch backshots
>>547041027post patch backshots>>547029418the difference is more obvious in this
>>547040716they just need to copy that property to the non assist versioni wonder how many patches it'll take for them to bother
>>547041027>>547041310oh that's actually kind of a lot lol
>>547027006that 2+2 combo used to do 1050+now 2+2 does 1000+so blitz, darius and illaoi now survive it
>>547043961multiple super 1s in one combo gotta go next
>>547044401reminded me to check my triple level1 combo,and my corner version is killed because of the 2h startup nerfmidscreen one still works, though
>>547041310nice that is pretty goodnow hit the teemo one
>boot up ranked>they reset controlsim going to kill riot developers
>>547045840training mode chads, we run this shithad that confusion just trying out the changes :^)
>>547045607awesome lol >>546920624>yasuo damage nerfs unimpressive and the scaling aspect of it is completely pointless when he's an open world character that will easily route around it and he's gonna end up doing the same amount of damage he already doescall me nostradamus dudejoking aside, do you feel particularly hit by the changes? or nah?
also, are there ANY ekko players in this thread? how are the changes feeling for you guys?
cute new winscreen
>>546920624Braum isn't even bad. There's just no reason to not pick the top 4 because they're the best at every aspect. Once they give them real weaknesses (and that day may never come) the lower tiers will get pseudo buffed.
>>547047110quite a lot better
>>547047125>(and that day may never come)yes, that's why i said "it's bad that braum gets 0 changes despite being completely unplayed"for all their "we want you to be making actual choices in teambuilding, we want your characters to have to cover each others' weak points" they don't seem interested in giving weak points to certain characters
>>547047617It reminds me about how Jill got nerfed in UMVC3 and Alex never got significant buffs in SFV because they were both top tier between the devs.
>>547048026did anyone play braum in the pros vs devs matches they did a while back?i still kind of believe that half the reason the game feels so fucked up in balance is because the devs are also accounting for their current WIP champs/completed ones that just aren't out yetlike once aatrox drops we're gonna be wishing we were fighting ekko, or something
>>547048565>did anyone play braum in the pros vs devs matches they did a while back?both combofiend and yahoise played braum
>>547046249played my first match, and it's kind of funnypeople complained about ahri not getting any nerfs,but ahri was impacted WAY more than yasuothe j6s2 nerf has me second guessing everything>was the fix i tried not enough to get the combo working?>maybe i just perform it too slowly?>hell, did this route even work pre-patch at all???
also,unless a single day off made me rust THAT much,the backdash grab os was fucking up a lot somehowi swear they had to have changed something related to it
okay, confirmed it in training modeif you press 4+dash+grab, the game previously prioritized backdashbut post patch, the game prioritizes grab
>>547053282>>547052003bug abuser DOWN
>>547048565combofiend braum is actually sick afhe was cooking
this is the behavior post patch0f gap, you'll get a grab, out prioritizing backdash << changed1~2f gap, you'll get a backdash, hiding the grab input3f gap, you'll get a backdash canceled into grab
>>547053859
>>547052003They patched out another os setup in the first patch too, I remember seeing hook complain about it thenGuess they really don't like os setups that aren't ekkos, tho Idk if some of his still work since they keep nerfing his ball throw
Why aren't you watching the fighting game streamers of the year?twitch.tv/lilypichu
>>547055234cute avatars
neatyou can see the score and matchups being played from a distance now
>>547055871>only 2 jinxes in the entire lobbynoticing.
>>547059771i lost to a jinx ahri just now,but yeah, i don't think she's very strong atm
Is it safe to play the game now. How good was the patch
>>547064035haven't had time to play much but it doesn't look super different
there's a gamebreaking bug that's triggering meif you move in the character and stage select screen quickly, (plink speed),it'll ignore the first input, and only accept the last inputeg, in this clip, i'm pressing>left up>left downand it's just making me go up to ekko, down to jinx,ignoring the left inputsi can't play like this
>>547064035they fixed yas super assist, ekko got shot and bodyblocking is goneill take it
>>547065563>they fixed yas super assistthis actually is the biggest hit in the patch. actually i also gotta check how realistic it is to snipe teemo super assist once i get off work, that has promise too
>thread still deadmaji
>Yasuo still strong>Illaoi everywhere nowwhat do i even do against this shit
>>547071987>read the first thing she does when she hits you during tentacle oki>if you managed to block it, pushblock, press a big button, and then tag>if she chooses grab you're probably fucked though
>>547071987do you want to learn new matchups or dont you anon
>>547071582sorry the avatar set came out on mtga i was playing my otk landfall deck now with rock lolis
I feel like every day I take a break from this game I become totally dogshit yet againIm still dropping the combo I labbed every day how do I actually learn anything
Avatar Legends has motion inputs and more freedom of movement...
i hit mastersgod yasuo and ekko players were carried beyond belief before this patchdarius and ahri players are still carried beyond belief this current patch
HOLY MOLEY im fucking goodthe juke of the century
Honestly there isnt a better feeling than winning a round you thought you lostI was kinda dooming hard but then I just won and turned the set from an 0-1 to a 2-1
>>547077189Oh, yeah, how's Vi lv3 animation now?
>>547077359idk i havent seen it yeti spend too much meter on shitty combos
anyone know wtf happened in this first second
>>547065375idk what a plink is sorry
Ekko mytime actually does feel fair nowik it only got nerfed by 2 frames but it's so much slower and smallerFeels almost like Vi assist is better now, thank christ
>>547076498congrats
>>547076498good jo->darius and ahri players are still carried beyond belief this current patch(gritting my teeth and holding back tears) good job dude i always believed
the qiyana nigger makes this general unusable it does say a lot about the game that it's #1 defender is a literal nigger with an IQ in the 60s
>>547077958You got ekkod like exactly one frame before he ate a rocket
If the character has insane mixups then he needs some gigantic fucking weakness somewhere else in his kit. Why are the devs unable to understand this?
>>547081461im not black that's the other guy he streams his gold games im way higher elo
>>547053282>If your dash macro is next to your H button, you should just input 4DH~M. For the throw OS - Throw has same frame prio vs backdash now, but L/M/H normals dont so you can just kara it and get the same thing.https://x.com/SuperKawaiiDesu/status/1990890289825714607
>>547081775ermm ekko yasuo teemo ahri all have like 50 less health ok...
>>547081461he's also one of the only people posting webms and screens + plays matches so
>>547074505Your combo might be a little finicky/unreliable, I was dropping combos a lot and had no idea why until I looked at the frame meter and figured out it was 2 frame link I was trying to do as my bnb, and realized I needed to make my combos shorter to make it easier to finishWhat character's combos are you dropping
>>547084070Jinx skybones loopsThey're super gay
ekko and yasuo are still ekko and yasuo huh
>>547085371Most jinx players I see don't even bother going for the loops, it's just way more reliable to do her regular combo trial bnb and similar stuff, and I go for tag launchers more often than finishing her combos to go for limit breaks with someone elseIf you wanna do the loops, there really isn't an easy way to learn the timings, the frame meter will help a little to see if you're inputting it late or not, but you'll just have to keep practicing the timing
just had the most stressful set of my fucking life and it was the darius/blitz mirror somehowthat dude tagged my dumb ass with anti-air blitz assist so many timesi wish it worked so well on the top tiers as it does on these guys lmao
at least the patch seems to have brought a lot of people back to give the game another spinnot seeing many yasuo/ekko/teemos
good night tukoit's almost this thread's week anniversary lol
>>547090769give it a couple of days for people to figure out that fundamentally nothing has changed about ekko and yasuo
>>547082332yep, already found that earlier >>547054120the change basically just turns it into a 2f window instead of 3fit's just an annoying change
chat we might be cooked
>>547114285how long until the next season? god damn itwe need more champs
How do we actually save 2kxo?No, adding your favorite character won't do shit
>>547114908well it is just a character issuealmost all the issues with balance and spectatability and gameplay variety come down to just needing moreIn like a year we'll probably be healthy
>>547114908Adding my favorite goonbait
I actually do like what they said about upback assist call and how they want to address itI hope they actually do it sooner rather than later though
>>547114908all the char balance, backdash, doubledown, fury, supertag, ... shit does not matterthe game's already in a good enough state>No, adding your favorite character won't do shitit would, actuallywell, not 'my' fav chars in particular, but other people'sthe game just needs more charactersthat's ita well-balanced 11-character game is nothing compared to a poorly-balanced 50-character gamethe devs are essentially micro-optimizing a function, when they're still missing 90% of the program's features
the game is fine. the thread is fuckedgenerals exist only on how much erp and gay porn bait can get spammed just look at sfg
If arcsys was balancing this game ahri would've gotten buffed
>>547114908Complete overhaul of frame advantage. Every character needs frame data re-examined from the ground up to be balanced appropriately for their hitboxes and hurtboxes. Remove blockstun cancelling when landing. Add +2 blockstun to any move when it's blocked in the air. Make air throws even stronger than they are now. That's a small start at least.
none of these people play fighting games
>>547121086literally just sajam and sajam slam participantsgrim
>>547121086better than that max faggot getting nominated
>>547120946>Make air throws even stronger than they are now.The hitbox is huge already, it's already easy as fuck to throw jumping fags when you aren't trying to anti air them with a lariat
For Vi should i use her dumb sister for tag or blitz? I play sidekick...
>>547122908most of Vi's strength comes from handshaking her so Blitz might be better for the fucked up combos you can get off of himVi is better if you dont want to learn anything and just play straightforwards though
>>547120946how tf would you buff airgrabbing in a way that doesnt make it just beat attacks outright or be untechable or someshit
>>547123930you can tech airgrabs??
>>547122908Vi is weak in the air, and Blitz assist will always pull them to the ground. But if you have trouble getting in, Jonx will cover your approach.
>>547125950kek yeah but it has to be preemptive, shit is nearly impossible already
>>547112682nice milky ahri
>>547089574Yeah but I wanna learn them they’re cool.How do people hit tight combos all the time they’re freaks
>>547114908release the dozens of characters they have ready
why did this game flop so fucking hard?i thought riot were supposed to be big boys
I've been getting super tag pilled after getting used to doing ahri/jinx super tag stuff and I've even seen blitz s2 and vi s1 super tag, I hope they never change it because it's a ton of fun getting to throw out supers more oftenI don't think I'll be able to go back to games where supers are mostly extra combo damage or a wakeup option
>>547134568It's a tag fighter. A tag fighter with 11 characters
>>547134568riot has made 1(one) game
>>547135842LoL, Valorant, and LoR, off the top of my head. You could count TFT too, I guess. But it's technically a part of LoL, but whatever>LoL is still big, but feels like it's on a slow decline. At least in the West. I guess gooks and chinks just can't let it go>Valorant is still somewhat big. It's basically CS but for SEAmonkeys and spics. I guess some zoomers also play it>LoR flopped and was abandoned. It's on life support>TFT is still chugging along, I guess. I have no idea who the fuck even plays that shitAnd I'm not even gonna mention Riot Forge because every single one of those games flopped hardI fear that this game will end up going the way of LoR, the way things are looking up
DONT NERF BUFF!!!!
I see the doomtroon schizo timmy is losing it again
>>547137505riot would have to actually buff the lower characters in order for that to do anything lol...don't worry guys, next patch is going to be the real one...
>>547134568tag fighter so it instantly kills off any interest from 95% of casuals and 90% of intermediate fg players
>>547114908thing is, the game is doing fineas i always say, no matter what time of day i hop on, i get matches pretty fastbut nobody wants to watch the top 4 jerk each other off so there's no reason to watch a stream. i say this as a huge fan of the game who has only bothered watching two or so tournaments since launch
really disappointed with ahri's kiti wanted millia instead i got a lame ass zoner
>>547144064she WOULD be millia if she didn't do 70% health per combo
>got matched against the literal number two ranked challenger playertook a round off of him but fuck thatbro i got blown up by an ekko spamming timewinder earlier fuck off with thisreject games matchmaking at work dawg
>>547144064i wanted her to be a full zoner with a charm fireball we both lost
>>547141340kinda seems that way to me toogame is fun to play but not fun to watch
bro i'm not playing against duos anymore. it's always some top 50 challenger player and some master shitter elo pipebombing me for -9 where one of them is actual dogshit and the other could solo me for free
>>547134568Tag fucking sucksBut I can stomach it,The problem is that besides being tagIt's a fucking terrible game
>ahri illaoi won the first tournament after the patch
Holy fuck electrics feel so unreliable. How can you guys play like this.
>>547134568eleven charactersignore all other answerseleven fucking characters.
>>547153110i think this is actually going to feel okay once we get full release and they start actually releasing new ones every 2.5 monthslike that's going to feel REALLY good compared to the 4+ month waits of dix and strive
>>547153971i agree completely i think they're thinking long term with thisbut the optics of it are undeniably horrid
>>547152965electrics are easy just get used to the rhythm and it’s always the same press and release and its only a few different buttonsi have more trouble with combos that take dash cancelling or pianoing or reverse beating through your options
>>547154168oh yeah absolutelybut i really want to believe that console release + char releases and battle passes will cause a big surge of interest
>>547137505just be happy we even got some nerfsif this was UNI they’d be buffing all the top tiers
>>547134568The game released with 11 characters. And even if you remove the abhorrent picks like Braum and Illaoi, that's still just two slots, it's not like Illaoi's inclusion is killing the game. Jinx, Vi, Warwick, Ekko and soon Caitlyn are obviously Arcane shill picks, but they're hardly out of place and are mostly popular characters so it's okay . After anything between 3.5 and 9 years of dev time. The first teaser we saw of this game made it seem like a ''sf clone'', so people were expecting that. Riot instead delivered a U-Turn and turned the game into a tag fighter, which is an unpopular subgenre in an unpopular genre.Even after that ridiculous long dev time the game still wasn't ready, Alpha Labs showcased only a barely functional game, if you could call it that. Alpha labs were like sweeping the dirt under the rug and saying your house is clean, except that the rug is fucking transparent so everyone can see you're full of shit.And what's more? The only reason you're able to play the game right now is because Tokon fired all alarms at the 2XKO dev team, otherwise we wouldn't see this game released until 2027.The roster, the disastrous alpha labs, the dev time, none of that is good PR. But I'd say that's not the worst.The worst would be... that after all this time, what do they have to show for? The game really isn't anything stellar, the game isn't solid nor polished enough to excuse it. There's nothing truly groundbreaking in here.All of the above are straight up facts, but to get a bit in the subjective territory, the devs are also something else.They're pro players, not career game devs. They are kusoge enjoyers, these niggas like UMVC3 and DNF. Speaking of DNF, the dude in charge of balance is a transgender who enjoys DNF Duel. How would that ever work? The well was poisoned from the start.>>547136969League, Valorant, LoR, Wild Rift and TFTTFT, WR and Val are big in the east. Valorant is still big in the west.League is huge but declining.
>>547154753game is pretty fun thoughmaybe i wouldn't like it as much if other modern offerings weren't so dogshit but they are
>>547154753can u tldr this manim not reading all ‘at
I still get memory leak issues, does anyone else experience this? Have they even addressed this issue?
went on a date yesterday missed patch day ww@ with this game
>>547158090this game isn't any less dogshit than your other modern alternativeswith the caveat that at least other FGs have polish this game lacks
>>547164201hell fucking no loli played 700 something hrs of sf6 and i'm 100% comfortable saying it's the worst>sf game ever made>non-indie fg ever made>video game ever made
>>547166285I'd bully you because it only took me 50 hours to realize SF6 is the worst mainline fighting game ever made but surely someone here realized in less than 10>(worst) video game ever madedon't be a drama queenalso lmao it took a full six days for the thread to hit the bump limit, I started to make a new one but this game doesn't deserve it. I'd recommend /tfg/ - /Tag Fighters General/ but I know everyone's autism won't allow it
>>547166531yeah i was fooling myself thinking if i kept playing i would start liking it. i came to that realization a long time ago but also, i got bored of strive and sf6 was the only modern game with players and netcodei genuinely do consider it one of the worst games ever made unironically
>>547167085It's one of the worst for sure, but THE worst is a little crazy. I took the trip from a couple thousand hours in DBFZ to 600 hours of Strive to 50 hours of SF6 and Strive/SF6 killed any desire I had to play fighters outside of the occasional lab session. Feels really bad to have developed this skill for so much of the time in my life and I don't get to use it anymore.
>>547168053Baked
>>547166531>I'd recommend /tfg/ - /Tag Fighters General/ but I know everyone's autism won't allow itHey, I'd use that to dump A21 art. That alone would be more worth the space than this entire general.
>>547168483Hmm, I should have made it clear in the Op that tag bros are welcome to post whateverIt's not like I give a shit what gets posted unless it's some schizo spazzout, I don't mind dbfz bros
