No frotting today it seems :c

I hope the frame will bring on a new wave of genuine newfriends

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Christmas Carol 2025
Rick Astley - Love This Christmas
Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYCUNULp868
Lyric Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucg3wvgk_Ac
Lyrics: https://genius.com/Rick-astley-love-this-christmas-lyrics
This year we're producing an alternative Christmas song for the thread, this time a rendition of Love This Christmas with no changes to the lyrics.
Recording starts now and ends on the 19th of November to give the video editor time to work his magic.
Contact the recorders in game or by other means to join in, either singing the chorus, a verse or the whole thing.

Recorders:
SEA - Noxsea
EU - Karkeys, Uzugu
NA - Azuth

The more recorders the merrier, if you don't feel like you or your friends are covered by the names above, contact Karkeys to join the list of recorders.
If you want to get a feel for what the finished product will be like, here's the song from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWV08ftkBE

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R.E.P.O VR will be hosted tomorrow 8pm CET! (19:00 utc)
I will steamlobby link invite here then and post mod install instructions later tonight and tomorrow, the setup is very EASY & QUICK.

>>546531112
I just woke up so let me finish my coffee and I'll join you on usw.

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>>546531112
Plenty of that, just no Forefront

>>546531283
still waiting on a new server to open

>>546531271
Open r2modman, select REPO, downlooad REPOXR, click yes to download all dependencies, start modded game.
Also apparently there's late game joining support now so that's neat

>>546531434
They're all full?

DESPERATE FOREFROTTERS:
WE are trying us-central-652

>>546531553
I used manual download, there's no need for the mod manager, hopefully its compatible

>>546531578
There are only 4 EU servers and there haven't been any fresh ones for the past 20 minutes at least

>>546531767
the game only allows 128 players max for the EU region?
lmao

>>546531730
>WE are trying us-central-652
Cancel that= eu allmaps 740

eu 740

>>546531740
When we played Lethal Company it used r2modman so most people should have it.
You can also copypaste a modlist to share with people before the game with it which is cool.
Also did you check if the VR mod still works with the update from today? (0.3.1)
It's bugfixes bug who knows if something broke

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>>546531938
>EU

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https://booth.pm/en/items/7648295

Fresh all-maps EU #994 spawned.

I am once again asking for all vrchatroons to kill themselves
You are the reason why VR is being held back and looked down upon.

>>546533438
Unironically though it's being held back by the quest 2 and all the children that make up its main userbase. Unironically another 10-15 years for them to mature enough for the "core userbase" of vr to want anything other than phone game slop.

Will the Frame's mic be a downgrade from Index

>>546533760
why would it?
even the deck has a good mic and speaker setup

>>546533760
Im more worried about the speaker quality and I havent heard anyone really talk about it

stop making excuses for the trillion dollar company

it is perfectly possible and there is a large market for users who want a high end oled headset with face tracking

>>546534814
good thing the GXR exists

>>546533438
those vrchatroons are the only ones keeping this dead industry even somewhat afloat

pay your respects to the troons

>>546533760
they literally said it has the same great mic audio from the index
watch the videos with the engineers on it you idiot

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>>546534814
Galaxy XR exists if you want that.
Costs over twice as much and comes with its own set of compromises though.

>>546534814
there's no good oled panels yet

>>546534814
enjoy your dim displays with ghosting caused by high duty cycles trying to fix the dimness

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you disgust her.

How the fuck you guys had so many headsets?
>>546525186
name each one and why you have that many / the reason behind each one you bought

Resonite?

>>546537002
I've got two;

an OG HTC vive. Bought it 9 years ago.

And an Vive Pro. A gift from my buddy.
It was cheaper for him to buy a vive pro and lighthouses than buy the lighthouse.

I'd borrow his index and knuckles, but he doesn't want me gooning in vrc.

>>546537450
>I'd borrow his index and knuckles, but he doesn't want me gooning in vrc.
what a noble soul.

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>>546514395
>Resonite started, join uzugu

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>>546535904
Doubt it, Anon. There aren't many things that could disgust that pervert.

>>546419683
Has WRC been alright post-Codemasters acquisition by EA? Not touched the series in years, but if I can VR it up via some means, I'd grab the latest.

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I got kicked out and now there are no EU servers wtf? And all my frens are gone, join game dont work btw.

>>546525003
>>546537002
>How many headsets do you own?
>an ancient rift devkit someone was throwing out
I didn't know a lot about VR at the time and it's way too old to be useful now. When I wanted to get into VR I tried looking at it and realized it'd take a lot of work and setup and is too low spec to be very useful.
>a quest 3 I bought last year

I kind of want the frame when it comes out but it'd be a very wasteful purchase. I think what I'd want to see more is an off-the-shelf eye tracking kit for the quest and ability to replace the awful MetaOS with something better, but sadly neither exists. I really love VR but don't actually spend that much time with my headset on. If I was using my headset daily I could justify spending a lot more.

>>546538870
It's over.

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It's up
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/6914?tab=description

forefronters spare slots on 740

>>546538798
And yet.

>>546537002
in roughly the right order:
>Oculus Rift DK1
didn't kickstart, bought after so didn't get free cv1
used a good bit to demo VR to friends and family early
>Oculus Rift CV1
liked Oculus and went with their offering despite no controllers
used often
>HTC Vive
ended up wanting FBT and hybrid playspaces weren't working well at the time
used often
>Valve Index
the standard lighthouse ecosystem upgrade
used often
>Oculus Quest 1
to test out wireless
not used often
>Oculus Quest 2
to test out wireless
not used often
>Pimax 5k Super
had a deal that made it cost the same as an Index HMD so took a chance, it sucked on many levels
not used often
>Vive Pro Eye
to test full setup with Vive face tracker and eyes together, was too much of a downgrade back from index to stick with for me in several aspects
not used often
>PICO 4 Pro
to test out wireless with eyes+face, it doesn't work on my wifi 7 router (wifi 7 modes are all disabled), so it's a brick until a firmware update happens
not used often
>Meta Quest Pro
to test out wireless with eyes+face based on shilling here, i hate this thing for several reasons; thankfully got a firmware update so it works on my new network setup but did break initially
not used often
>Bigscreen Beyond
lighthouse upgrade option from Index
worked very well for me after one replacement unit due to wrong IPD
>Bigscreen Beyond 2e
better optics and eyetracking
is my daily driver currently
>Apple Vision Pro (2025)
to test with and experience 4k uOLED with top tier specs
there's not much software for it, so its limited by that and Apple's dumb decisions regarding lack of arkit

the honorable non-vr mention:
>XREAL One Pro
because it basically lets me make my steam deck screen go to my face, was an early dose of what Steam Frame ideas might be
neat, but limited as its just a display mirror

the non-honorable mentions:
>Arpara 5k
scamstarter, no refunds
>DecaGear
scamstarter, but they put out a hip tracker I never unboxed and only charged for that

>>546539391
737 actually visible

Nice team balance, faggots,

>>546540095
be the balancing factor you want to see.

>>546535068
>Galaxy XR
downgrade

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Just learned there is a free prefab that allows you to adjust limb lengths in-game to improve full body tracking. Arms too short? Legs too long?

Doing it in Blender is reasonably complicated so if you're interested this seems like a much better way to try. nanochip.gumroad.com/l/avatarlimbscaling

fent friday more like

>>546541367
I like this for the idea of nailing the lengths in game and then transferring to Blender so that you can better match clothing.

>>546541367
I don't know why something like this isn't just part and parcel of VRC. Just allow torso/limb scaling up to 15% or something on a per-avatar basis, and make it a saved setting.

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>>546541524
forefront friday!

>>546533759
nah, kids use every technology today. PCs, tablets, phones, consoles, portables....you name it- only thing that give a bad taste for VR acceptance is degenerate troons and 'vibe' they gave it. Trust me, I know from business perspective.
>>546534953
false, they are making a mockery of it and should quite literary put a bullet inside their degenerate brains

bsb2 or steam frame?

>>546542243
steam frame
bsb2 will burn your house down

>>546542312
oh god, is bsb2 the new 5090.

>vrc servers sharted the bed
its meowover...

I don't know why some of you morons bitch about- steam frame is superior to all similar devices and for these things on the standalone side:
>SD Card slot
none exist with that as far as I know
>native Linux (Arm) Steam OS
that opens path to so so so many things
>Steam Library/Client
untold number of games that can be played in projected (frame) screen and god know how many that can be ported to VR (3dof/6dof) if I know Valve they probably have plans for that
If not, community will surely fill in the blanks
>Support for android/arm and x86 games/softwaree
Both legally and piracy is an option and MUCH easier than any other currently
>Valve support and backing
Of all big companies who could make a VR headset they are the ones I'd trust most

On the streaming side:
>High quality dongle included
no need for expensive router- it just werks
>Steam Controller reciever included in it
Superior for most PC only games

Two flaws I see in it is the LCD screen and monochromatic cameras. To me personally they are small issues as I don't use passtrought and LCD may be acctually good.

I closed the game but I still hear the bomb siren in my head.

I everyone resooning now.. is vrc... finally.. dead?

>>546542141
I honestly think degenerates are a small minority of VRC users but that no VRC content gets any traction on tiktok or youtube unless it's
>trolling publics
>twerking in a Very Poor TDA/Booth
>exposé of the week of some VRC "groomer" who 9 times out of 10 did their grooming off-platform or it was between two adults with an age gap
>video essays on how much VRC sucks because of the above

>>546543974
Yes... It's finally over

>>546543974
I'm not resoniting, but I did get off vrc just now because I had infinite loading screen though

>>546543454
Wow, it's an upgraded Q3 launching years after the Q3. It's exactly what leaks suggested, but it's also not worth upgrading from a Q3 to and is on the edge of being outdated on release because you already have medium-end headsets that blow it out of the water spec-wise other then they're not running Linux natively.

>>546544125
Using vr chat is a degenerate act. Especially with avatars that do not represent your own gender.

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https://vrch.at/x6e7d2kq

Resonite Refugee Friday is now up!

>>546544239
No, you total moron. Meta isa fucking retarded company that is behind shit like facebook and instagram and is represented by a fucking lizard faced zuck cuck
Valve is a company FOR gaming making platforms and hardware for gaming.
Just based on those 2 even if they sell identical hardware wise headsets- Valve is a clear winner.

And frame is much better than q3

But that is beyond your understanding

>>546543454
The Steam Frame would have been more interesting to me if I could dock it like a SteamDeck, and use it like a traditional PC. It'd have been an all-in-one VR/gaming/desktop experience, even if it's limited on the 3d power side of things.

>>546543454
>SD Card slot
there is no usecase
>native Linux (Arm) Steam OS
there is no usecase
>Steam Library/Client
every other headset already have access to this
>Support for android/arm and x86 games/softwaree
there is no usecase, it cannot actually run meta games as it requires proprietary calls
>Valve support and backing
valve has a track record for abandoning shit on a whim, this is not a positive
>High quality dongle included
was never an issue
>Steam Controller reciever included in it
there is no usecase

>b-b-but monochromatic camera and LCD
anyone squealing about this are clueless and just parroting what they hear from ecelebs, it does not matter at all

>b-b-but
valve is only producting 400000 units, they know themselves that it will not sell because they know themselves its not a competitive headset
the only interesting part of it is the software part and most of that is not exclusive to the frame but will work with any headset

>>546543454
>>546511990

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>>546544576
>no, you don't understand, it's magically better because Gaben touched it with his dick
>meanwhile, Meta is spying on me even if I don't let it talk to the internet

I dislike Facebook and like Valve as a company, but it's amusing to see actual cultists

>>546544804
>there is no usecase, it cannot actually run meta games as it requires proprietary calls

github.com/ovrport/app

>>546544804
That's nice but I'm going to enjoy my frame while you sit on whatever not playing any vr games

gg'ies froonters

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New humble vr slop bundle droped.

Swatting heliniggers out of the sky feels so good.

>>546543454
>no need for expensive router- it just werks
Can't wait to see the price that dongle adds to the overall package for those of us that don't need it.

>native Linux (Arm) Steam OS
My worry here is battery life, given Steam Deck already barely holds 2-3hrs on any real gaming. Frame strap at least allows daisy chaining a battery off the battery, but I'd have preferred a more elegant solution.

>SD Card slot
It's a regular-ass slot. Not even high-speed. You know what I hate the most in VR? Load times.

I am morbidly curious what the performance penalty of FEX is though. Would be funny to see someone get vanilla Crysis 1 going on it though.

>>546544576
nta but you're just wrong. It's by no means a clear winner or loser until we know the price.
You're competing with a $350 headset. To my understanding everyone is expecting the frame to be above $500. Even just at $500 that's quite the price hike for no face tracking. It might be worth it for new people coming in who have nothing, but otherwise I can't see how you justify that.

>>546544767
It's a linux, you can "dock" it or stream it.
>>546544804
>>546545041
Such cope lmao, I wonder how much cocks you suck in free time

So many fucking shills here, steamframe is as open as possible and can be as separated from it's maker as anything can be.
It is a fucking linux ffs, you will probably be bel to install ubuntu on it
I cannot comprehend that anyone besides retards and shills would say that is not a MAJOR upside of a frame

>>546545286
i too am going to buy a frame though
im just not acting completely delusional about it

>>546546007
We'll never have a good Humble VR bundle again. Also I'm sure a couple of these are a repeat as well since I have them already.

>>546546162
lmao
kek
Go read up on and research the frame and come back please.

>>546546265
very inciteful!

>>546546239
>It's a linux, you can "dock" it or stream it.
It'll depend on how strong the video encoder is on the device itself. The only thing we get with it is a mystery PCIe port, and a USB-C that only handles USB2 speeds of data, which would only be good for KB&M at that point.

>>546546348
I'm not poor and I can afford the best headset on the market for only $800. It's a no brainer.

>>546546428
>mystery PCIe port
not really a misery it is I/O so both input and output and that included 2.5gbs video

>>546546430
you sound more like a comsoomer than a retired richfag.

>>546546007
plastic battlegrounds is getting multiplayer soon, and elements divided is fun, might be worth just for that

>>546546098
Vanilla Crysis 1 runs on Pico 4 Ultra using Winlator, with framedrops, but runs. Steam Frame is faster, so it might?

>>546546583
Maybe, but it'll be my first new headset in 6 years

>>546546007
plastic battlegrounds is still goat. it doesn't even need mp and I doubt I'll bother with mp once it drops. just one of those games to step back into your childhood every now and then.

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>>546546239
>cannot comprehend that anyone besides retards and shills would say that is not a MAJOR upside of a frame
Okay mr. smarty pants.
Now explain specifically why it is such a major upside.
How exactly do (you) plan on utilizing this obviously OP feature.

>>546547427
Me on the left

>>546547427
me going for the worm

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>its a linux

>>546547695
go on, don't hold back

linux needs to rebrand the penguin with tranime

I will actually cum in my panties if I can play Far Cry 5 in VR and it's good

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>>546547695
For me it's Konqi.

>>546547427
not that anon, but if I bought I frame I'd use it to completely replace my windows laptop, in addition to VR use.

I'm hoping steam frame can reignite my love for VR. I had a lot of fun tinkering with my quest2/3/pro but everything was always hacks and meta would eventually kill it. Stuff like being able to hack in a custom home environment. A whole community sprang up making those for a couple years till meta quashed it. They even killed off the streaming home and forced me to sit in a featureless void because they hate pcvr and only want good little goys buying games for standalone and socializing in their corpo hellscape. I say this as a huge Quest Pro shill that hasn't touched their Index since because of the optic stack.

>>546548132
That's actually incredibly wise, I hadn't thought about it that way.
I fricken love steam!!

>>546548146
Bruh. I have no clue what you're hoping for with the frame.

If I didn't already have my Quest 2 kitted out with hotswappable batteries and a good-enough wireless system, I'd be more interested in a Steam Frame. Least it's nice that there's finally an option that isn't Meta or Pico in that realm, AND I can play HOMM3 on it.

The Q though is how long before someone gets Quest exclusives running on it, since it's just glorified Android applications in the end.

>>546544427
I only came in as I thought we were playing Magic the Gathering tonigh. I am hoping we still may.

That was some kino Medic X Assault comradier on the little house there last map.
GG Forefronters!

>>546548343
To be able to actually utilize a standalone headset as cool tool or device for anything I set my mind to instead of a plastic toy that shows me zogslop for entertainment. An actual computer that sits on my head and beams images directly to my eyeballs instead of braindead zombie smartphone hellscape simulator????

>>546549129
What stops your from doing that already exactly? I've got my quest set on auto-connect to my desktop when I put it on. I never really see the meta UI shit or environement and it would be exactly the same if I had the frame.
Never had to interact with Horizon ever. Don't know where your schizo rambling is coming from.

>>546548343
It's going to basically be the only VR headset that you can do productivity on with software of your choice, rather than what your built-in web browser can handle.

>>546547427
Port the OS to android phones, at least portion for playing games.
Use my own Linux distro on it, even more optimized for my usecase.
Use a custom launcher for all my pirated content.
Make software for it.
Tinker with it like you do with Linux.
And million of things Linux in general can do that you will not understand.

>>546549129
I actually forgot this was what VR/AR was all about at the start. I first learned about VR stuff with the google glass project and was super excited to have something as more of a utility over gaming console.

Okay linux is huge

>>546549474
Unhinged Indexfag comment.

>>546549464
STANDALONE
That's why I got a refurbed quest 2 when I already had an Index. It's a computer! On my head! It talks to me!!!
I got minecraft running. Just because it was cool! I got emulators running. Just because it was cool! The whole world was IN MY HAT

>>546549810
I use the web browser a fair bit on my Quest 2, but I'm more than likely in the minority on that. Discord works through it as well.

>>546549963
I can do all that a lot easier on my desktop PC with a headset attached to it, so that novelty of being standalone for the sake of standalone is lost on me.

>>546549474
it cannot do productivity, it doesnt have the resolution and PPD to do it
you are delusional

>>546550272
Any other situation if I'm moving around a lot, that would make me want some form of computing device on me, I'll have a laptop for, or potentially a GabeCube if a sane portable keyboard+display solution comes out.

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we got steam frame at home!

>>546547427
I will literary use it as a fucking computer, not some meta gimmicks for "productivity"

>>546550459
Oh no, I guess I'll have to increase the DPI on what's being rendered! Almost as if we never had to do productivity at 800x600 resolutions in the past.

>>546550272
Attached to a PC it's just a funny monitor that makes my eyes hurt and my stomach upset. I already tinker with my PC. Adding funny monitor is interesting but not that interesting.

>>546547973
sex with all of them

>>546550624
How is that any better than virtual desktop? Is portability what you're looking for here?

>>546551270
The only thing chaining your head computer to your desk computer does is give you more power to play video games. Interesting computer things do not require power to render anime bimbo jiggly backsides. Simply do not turn on desk computer. Wow. Amazing. Check out my helmet dood.

>>546551270
They are just looking for an excuse, I really don't see a scenario where using this is better than a phone, I guess privacy in public but not even that because it has no headphones or jack, only speakers so people will be able to hear you gooning.

>>546551884
If you do not connect to a pc, all you have a is a weak phone with a terrible input (good luck doing anything quickly with vr controllers).

>>546552103
Smartphones are EVIL. I do not use them. It runs a real COMPUTER OS. I spit on your stupid sheepslate. Weak is relative. It's running linux, not some stupid bread and circus premium dung M$ garbage. It's a powerhouse compared to most of the machines I entertain myself with.

>>546552780
anon you should temper your expectations
the Frame is weaker than the Deck for anything it runs locally

>>546551884
My takeaway is this, if you're interested in Linux and doing cool Linux stuff, this is going to be awesome to play around with. However, functionality wise it doesn't actually provide anything you couldn't do before through a wireless connection.

>>546553028
>the Frame is weaker than the Deck for anything it runs locally
This is the thing I think a lot of people don't realize. Steam Frame was BUILT with PCVR streaming as its primary use, and battery budgeted around. Anything else is just added value, which I'm not against, but it's not a selling point for me.

>>546552780
I agree with you that phones are just toys, but if your needs can be met by such a weak device, then a cheap laptop would suffice, the frame adding nothing feature wise.
If anything it just makes for a worse experience, no input, small battery (it has not hot swappable batteries and if you are going to be tethered to a wall what is the point?) and ignoring the meta influence, nothing that you could not do with a laptop and a quest 3 already

>>546553195
To follow up, the best use case I can think of for this feature is bringing it on a flight with some Bluetooth headphones so you can do whatever you want in privacy.

That's pretty cool, but not a major item.
I will say though, things like this are a huge green flag for any product being released. features that they didn't really NEED to add but were added anyway because fuck it we love gimmicks. That is a trend only seen in good product lines.

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>>546531271

R.E.P.O VR (saturday 8pm cet)

The setup is very easy, you need 3 mods (manual download):
https://new.thunderstore.io/c/repo/p/BepInEx/BepInExPack/
https://new.thunderstore.io/c/repo/p/DaXcess/RepoXR/
https://new.thunderstore.io/c/repo/p/DaXcess/FixPluginTypesSerialization/

>extract them whereever
>put the contents of the 1st mod in list, the BepInExPack mod folder, into steamapps/common/REPO
>put the contents of the folder of the other two mods into steamapps/common/REPO
(anything that gets overwritten/skipped is whatever)

Meet you then for some spooky VR kino!

>>546553028
Okay I don't think you understand. I used a raspberry pi 400 as my main desktop for like 6 months and the only reason I stopped was because the new blender 3.0 was coming out and I really wanted to practice (rpi400 lacks full opengl support, just embedded). For just playing around you don't even need rpi400 power.
>>546553195
I assume by functionality you mean playing VR games which has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
>>546553646
I have so many old laptops it's a mental illness. What I don't have is a freaking computer helmet.

>>546553195
I'm curious how much of a pain it'll be to interact with the camera sensors directly. Eg. To do your own AR solution, perhaps with colour overlaid from a PCIe driven camera (like Quest 3 does)

>>546554091
how many players max is a lobby?

>>546554254
you also should understand that the Frame is an ARM device running ARM Linux
sure it has Proton layers for x86->ARM, but that doesn't mean everything will work
its a device that will mostly run very light x86 apps and sideloaded APKs when it isn't being used to stream from a host PC

>>546554376
6 by default but there's a mod that allows for more
not sure how it would work with way more players though since the game has per player upgrades and you need to share money

>>546554254
How was the RPi400 for general web usage? My father's old PC is several years out of date, and I have had my eye on the 500 version to replace his tower with just a keyboard.

>>546554376
>>546554653
I tested it, the mod is out of date, it doesn't allow me to change the cap

>>546554254
>I assume by functionality you mean playing VR games

No, I meant what's the point in having a Linux computer strapped to your head as opposed to streaming a computer to your face monitor

I believe the answer here is
>Wow. Amazing. Check out my helmet dood.

>>546554775
RoboUnion doesn't work? It had an update last week

>>546554254
>What I don't have is a freaking computer helmet
You can't call people sheep for using a phone but then say normalfag stuff like this, may as bell get excited for changing the face plate of your steam box with a funko pop design or something

Not sure if I'll make it to any hanchan today. Didn't get wage-cucked this time, so I'll be playing some IRL Mahjong.
Have fun guys.

>>546554483
Do you not know what a raspberry pi 400 is?
>>546554673
Web is always the pain point for low end systems. The 500 might be okay with one of the higher RAM options. Be very careful what you're getting into if you've never used an rpi before. They've gotten to potential desktop replacement for casual users but doing that for someone else without experience yourself might be sketchy. . I must confess I bought one but I received my new computer (framework desktop 128GB) the next day so I've barely used it.
>>546554958
you're probably closer to understanding than anyone else I guess
>>546555242
It speaks but doesn't form words.
I'm merely trying to impress upon you the flavor of my excitement. Curated parasite blood sucking onions green horror rectangles that feed you funny pictures in exchange for your soul aren't remotely the same thing as a computer.

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>>546030090
Christmas Carol! Big G Version
see attached for instructions
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oHQBZ0K5z9cEeACnomK-4qFCpfZ-hxu2u3q8JH53FQo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsHVR6t3tYI
pic related a good idea by anon

If you need help recording we have videotakers per timezone just send them a ping in and they'll take the video for you
They will also roam from time to time but it's best if you could contact them first (spoilered are their discord account names)
NA - tothbrush flanflanjp
EU - juzuvjebot comfypillow
SEA - illexan

We will start going through meetups this week and the next to start gathering video clips :3 Thank you for your patronage

>>546555947
I have enough experience with a couple Linux distros that I can set up the 500 as needed for someone who only knows how to click on shit and type into youtube/google. The alternative is just finding a cheap NUC solution to throw Mint on that has enough CPU boost to not stutter while loading a page up.

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>>546544427

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Your regularly scheduled NA PALOV in 5 hours or at 11ET

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>>546531009

:: /vrg/ Christmas Party - Secrets of Santa 2025 | December 13 ::
What is this?
Come enjoy a comfy christmas party with your fellow /vrg/ anons.
Chat, chill and warm yourselves with the other anon's as everyone gathers round to see all the gifts Santa Anons made for one another.

Beverages, snacks and orderves will be served from our tourism sensitive hosts. In a fully custom map designed for /vrg/.

TWO (2) NEW Christmas Carols created by /vrg/ for /vrg/ is also gonna be shown, lovingly crafted by everyone.
To usher in the start of the event and see all the soulful christmas cards created by anon for anon.

A special christmas tree decoration section will be held just before the climax for everyone to participate in, lead by the wonderful DRAWING CLUB group of /vrg/.

At it's climax everyone comes in and welcome's santa on the chair to receive gifts specially made for them. (??? or will we? dun dun dun)

Fully recorded by our expert Recording Crew.
Non-secret santa participants will be able to have a little token as well.

For this year the santa chair will also be open for everyone to use for roleplay purposes if they so wish.

This year's theme is: Comfy Christmas Village - You will (Not) be GRINCHED

When?
EU - 19:00 UTC
NA - 10:30 PM EST


EVERYONE in /vrg/ is Invited to come enjoy this merriest of VR tradition 8 years long coming and that includes (You)

>>546556484
Might be worth it then. These days a linux minipc would be cheaper and more powerful though. Kinda sad.

>>546556572
is it too late for christmas card submissions? I don't think I saved the template...

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>>546557074
It's too late for signups for it The one where you are assigned someone randomly and you get one in return from someone else anonymously but you can still submit one from the goodness of your heart to someone specific or to everyone your call. I'll place them all in the map

https://www.mediafire.com/file/6205b08dcdujibl/VRG_Xmas_Card_2025_%25284%2529.unitypackage/file

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>>546557074
Here's the template PNG if you don't want to bother with the unitypackage file. New template is made by K A anon. It can be used as a modular avatar thing as well and attach it to avatars if you want (optional)
Note: You only have to send in the PNG

>>546556932
It's the problem with modern Windows, especially 11. Just too much analytics/garbage running behind the scenes that causes sporadic CPU spikes/RAM usage. God forbid if it tries to process updates in the background on anything not a gaming rig.

>>546557703
>>546557880
thanks anon

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what were they thinking with monochrome passthrough cameras?

>>546559641
It's like nightmare vision goggles: you won't even notice it because everything looks exactly the same. But when you launch a game it feels more fun in contrast.

>>546559641
I really don't know. You'd think "giant screen floating in your room" would be something they'd consider a lot more interesting to people than the empty black void it throws you in in VR instead.

>>546560006
hopefully some good static valve game inspired rooms to play in so you dont need to look at the black and white outside

>>546559641
the realisation that you cannot use it as a spatial computer anyway because the PPD is 1/4 of what is required
but canning the entire feature wouldnt make any sense, the same way it technically allows you to run things locally even though it doesnt have the power to actually do so with anything of value

>>546560438
Half the point of passthrough for me is so I can do things like pick up my beverage or take a piss without having to take the headset on and off, a virtual environment for a flatscreen game is pointless to me

>>546559641
They were thinking that passthrough is a silly gimmick that would be better left off to fit more useful features into their target price.

>>546554091
why dont you use r2modman

>>546559641
maybe they're true monochrome sensors. for example, leica makes their DSLRs in true monochrome version, no color filter equals insane sensor performance because color filter reduces the amount of light captured by sensor. tracking will probably do well with no colors because it's not all that much of an useful information, and the signal it works with will improve quite a lot, especially low light

>>546559641
If someone develops a flip-up strap for it I can live with it. Steam frame as a whole, both in hardware and software is just one big, high-quality canvas. The price, whatever it will be, can only be justified by whatever the community creates in the aftermath.

>>546559641
kino
the focus is on the games

>>546559641
>passthrough cameras
Anon i just use them to get my bearings and recenter. I'm not gonna use them for anything else.

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>>546561617
They're really good for a floating desktop or game on your couch or bed.
Volvo really fucked up on that one.

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>>546555038
>>546554376
it works! (hopefully) unlimited player cap. Only the host needs this mod so nothing changes for >>546554091

you can also instead use the mod manager r2modman and download REPO XR and its 2 dependencies.
>>546560738

also for the mutes: it has a very well integrated chat.
https://litter.catbox.moe/hcohd42ncnubayfq.mp4

>>546559641
Could they be hitting a hardware limit on concurrent cameras for the Snapdragon 8 and so reusing the front facing ones was the only option? I think it's better to have a wider tracking volume than better passthrough if given the choice. XR2 gen 2 for example boasts supporting 10 cameras and while it does have dedicated XR hardware I don't know if that increases the number of cameras supported as I thought it was mostly for depth and tracking.

>>546562169
>hardware limit on concurrent cameras for the Snapdragon 8
what does that mean for the cope about the community adding a face tracking and passthrough module in the extension port?

>>546559641
Probably going the full in vr route. or if you want, get the color camera addon :^)

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>>546561790
and eating

>>546562169
>Could they be hitting a hardware limit on concurrent cameras for the Snapdragon 8
Snapdragon 8 can handle more sensors at once than is even necessary. It more boils down to battery life concerns. If you want colour passthrough, there'll likely be a 3rd-party webcam add-on for the front PCIe port to project colour into the passthrough space, like how Quest 3/Pro already do it.

All I want is a VR headset with a fucking flick-up display. None of this passthrough nonsense.

>>546543454
One thing that I have a doubt is about how long the battery will last?
Batteries are always an issue specially if you can't swap them for another one / get a new one
That's why I like that it uses AA batteries for the controllers, but the headset makes me wonder

>>546565142
it does not use AA batteries for controllers it has rechargeable unit
And the battery is 5800mah and uses about 7 w for stream and up to 30 w for standalone.
So play time is anywhere from 3.5-1h

>>546561790
luckily he's playing genshin and not anything that actually requires intensive inputs
>inb4 intensive inputs on controllers lmao

>>546565859
Works fine for most games for me. Desktop latency is 10ms~
As long as you pair your controller with your PC instead of the headset then it's all gucci and doesn't feel laggy at all. Haven't tried hardcore platformer like super meat boy or anything but I guess they might be challenging. I know that when I tried the original steam link like a decade ago they were unplayable via streaming.

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>>546565392
>it does not use AA batteries for controllers it has rechargeable unit
From Valve's own page.

>>546565392
>it does not use AA batteries for controllers
Man there is a lot of people here since the Frame announcement just straight up spouting completely inaccurate information

>>546566179
>>546566761
sorry, i meant you are talking about steam controller not frame headset controller. idk why

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Holy FUCK
STOP SHOVING THIS SHIT IN MY FACE
Every single fucking time I open up the game it's just non-stop tranny and LGBTQ+ shit right in your face.
I don't even give a fuck about gay people but the tranny pandering is so over the top it's getting annoying.
Surely even normies are starting to get sick of this too?

>>546567083
i think your menu is broken dude

>>546567213
My menu is broken and it needs gay conversion therapy, pronto

>>546567083
bees are trans because they're incredibly aggressive and when they sting they kill themselves

>>546567083
>I don't even give a fuck about gay people but the tranny pandering is so over the top it's getting annoying.
Just infiltrate the VRTrain community and build a documentary showcasing the shit you come across to Youtube. That'll make VRC change it's mind about what it should be blasting to every kid's Quest 3.

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>>546567083
this whole charity is a scam reminder

>>546569817
what the fuck does any of that jargon even mean

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>>546567083
>Surely even normies are starting to get sick of this too?
Normies don't play VRChat anon. Trannies, furries, and questkiddies are the only things keeping it alive.

>>546564881
is that some hamburger helper?

>>546569817
Wait so I can just call myself a black tranny and get "hair removal" money gibs?

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>>546570564
they ran out of money

>>546569817
so what you're saying is if I incorporate and put up a bunch of ridiculous, deranged, mentally-ill college wokeism slopwords on a website I can get furry VR money for doing NOTHING? sweet deal

>>546571756
You also must first provide proof that you are loyal to israel

>>546571850
tranny flag is synonymous with the flag of kikeistan of course
but we'll also have a 20 page anti-antisemitism document with ai-generated pictures of white collar workers giving $20 bills to jewhat-wearing kids with the weird jew hair

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>>546572027
Here, wear this.
Forever renounce your claim to Agartha and your wishes will be granted*

>>546572404
lol

>>546570046
it means they give the lion's share of donations to niggers

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Half Life 3 will be announced within a few weeks and will come with the Frame and Machine. The gimmick will be you can play it on both flatshit and in VR.

>>546575045
in exactly two weeks actually

>>546575045
Yeah, I feel like this headset would have gone down a bit easier if that said "oh by the way We've got a bunch of 3d180 modes for games" including the new half life at the end

>>546575380
blud just got assassinated

>>546575812
>Oh btw TF2 has proper native VR support now alongside standalone on Frame

>>546575953
Hasn't tf2 had VR viewmodels for like +10 years by now?

>>546576535
It is very barebones, no tracked controllers.

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Reminder that pool is still on for tomorrow at 10pm EST/3am UTC/9pm central/8pm mountain/7pm west coast. Please come play or just hang out and put some tunes on. I think I have a solution to youtube's continual bullshit/failed to load errors, we'll see how this works out

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some days are bad tracking days

The real question about Frame's passthrough is will it have a similar feature to the Quest where double-tapping the side of the headset activates it.
Because if it doesn't and you have to go fucking about in menus to activate it it's useless.

Should i buy thrill of the fight 1 or 2?
>>546580005
is it quest compatible?

>>546581710
willing to bet it'll be double tap of steam button like index/vive

>>546580681
which trackers do you have, robro?

>>546581732
If it's the Pool Parlor map like it was when I went, yea, it's Quest compatible.

>>546581732
>>546582845
I was going to use my own shitty world but fuck it, would be nice to go back to pool parlor. Yep we're quest compatible now.

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>>546582209
unimotion

they are so picky about what batteries are put in them and have a lot of issues when the voltage starts dropping but do a really good job some of the time. I don't think they are that bad but If I were buying trackers now I'd spend more money to get something better.

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Drunk Pavlov is starting NOW. Heres how to get in: Server name is Shitposting therapy addiction center. click this to get in https://letmein.vrg.party/

>>546583790
It sucks that IMU tech has barely progressed in recent years. More-so now that there's going to be another generation of VR users with Steam Frames who can't use the tried&true base station solution. Not without coughing up $500+ extra in hardware anyways.

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https://vrch.at/7fznb7v9 we finished manual mahjong, here's good ol' auto table mahjong on an0n's cool palace map, couple of people waiting on side for a hanchan

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>>546583790

will there be a 25 days of /a/utism groupwatch

>>546586778
Will this include the disappearance of suzumiya haruhi on Dec 16?

>>546587013
that happens right before /a/utism iirc

>>546585569
Most IMU trackers are boutique products made by enthusiasts and there just isn't the development money like there has been for lighthouse tracking, except at the very highest end of IMU tracking, but then it costs similar to lighthouse trackers. Are they actually good? I have no idea. Most VRC whales didn't start with a quest so they have lighthouses already, so they probably don't know either.

>>546586224
I don't have any lighthouses...

>>546585746
That model is uncanny as shit, and not in a good way. Why are the lips so detailed yet not the rest of the skin? Why is the hair flat coloured when the outfit is PBR?

>>546583790
>34kb

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>>546587836

>>546586778
we usually do one for the first night of it/spontaneous nights of it here and there later in the month
the stream's too shit these days to be worth the effort though

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>>546588141

>>546588504
last year was kinda meh, yeah. guilty crown was insanely fun though lmao

>>546560808
That's a good point. They probably just designed it for camera-based controller tracking, and then enabled passthrough with what they already needed anyway.

>>546587441
The big money players did try IMU and concluded an IMU-only product wasn't viable, as they'll always need some other mechanism for real time correction.

its worrying that they showed it running some 2D game and not a HL:Alyx demo or something like that
i said ill get deckard if it can run alyx i guess ill keep that condition

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Anime grill goldfishes legacy reanimator deck. Just as keikaku, the network syncing does mostly work.

>>546589348
is this...good game design somehow in vrchat?

So who was asking for a Vampire Survivors VR port again?

>>546560808
I heard it's because they are IR cameras that don't get information about visible color. The reviews said the camera tracking keeps working even dark rooms.

>>546588791
I am worried that if I were to spend for high end IMU trackers I'd end up running into the same problems and wishing I'd spent 1000+ for a lighthouse tracking setup.

>>546589348
I'm gonna make a dakimakura with you on it

third week with no na karaoke

>>546589625
UDON is very powerful as long as you are fine working around it's limitations VRC is the best sandbox for any aspiring VR gamedev right now for prototyping

>>546589348
Man this will be so nice to play, I should bug you to try it out sometime

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PlaY AMHJONG!!!

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>>546538356
More than 8h in resonite, that was surely fun, thanks everyone for coming!

>>546589904
Yeah, if you haven't tested the high end IMUs out yourself before spending anything, I don't recommend buying any. I'd be surprised if they worked well enough. As for the Frame cameras, they do use an IR emitter to illuminate dark rooms, so they at least have IR capability. I don't know the camera specs so I can't tell beyond that.

>>546590421
???
literally happens every single friday bro and has for the past 3 weeks too

>>546591117
Nope. Maybe in your discord circles but there hasn't been an actual /vrg/ North American karaoke on friday for at least 2 weeks.

>>546591215
it's still happening even without the thread posts idk what to tell you

>>546589108
They said it can't run Alyx at an acceptable framerate standalone lol.

>>546591337
Source?

>>546591383
No, Source 2

>>546591337
Given my 1060gtx ran Alyx "good enough", that would have to put a Steam Frame at around a 950/960 at best? Give or take some lowered clocks because it's mobile hardware w/ thermal thresholds to worry about.

>>546591315
You're incorrect. The last Karaoke hosted for NA hours, hosted by a person in the community in friends+ was on October 31st, last month. And even then, it only got started around 3am est.

Any other instances since have been EU hours or deep SEA hours. I'm sorry but reality doesn't bear our your claims.

>>546591857
sounds like you werent invited to it

either way its ok, you guys can survive without karaoke happening for 72 hours straight on weekends every weekend

>>546591767
its weaker than a Steam Deck

>>546591948
Sorry man, but one or two of your yellownames being in a public karaoke instance doesn't make it a /vrg/ karaoke, and neither does an invite only discord group meet.

>>546592018
copeacabana my man, maybe you'll get an invite this weekend but not with that attitude

>>546591954
And the Deck was around 1050 levels. That's really going to limit the kind of 2d games you could play on it in the last decade that aren't simpler indie titles that already were toaster friendly.

Least I should be able to play Heroes of Might & Magic on it without issue, since that was primarily a mouse drive game.

>>546592095
Man no wonder you anti-karaoke guys seethe so much if you're inventing karaoke instances that never happened to fuel your delusions.

>>546590819
Brain too small to learn it I'm afraid

>>546590979
Are y'all going to be doing more resonite events or should I just not bother trying to check it out?

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I was not expecting the difference to be this substantial bros, very excited for this upgrade

>>546593332
Never underestimate professionals

>>546593332
looks way better

>>546593332
from 1999 to 1985

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>>546593332
Some MMDs can be the quality of the right but yeah, game rips generally better. The guys making those game models are probably some of those who first were making those high quality MMDs anyways, or vica versa.

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it seems that valve has no interest in making one of these which is too bad because i need one since im a baby

>>546588540
Time to trace the footsteps of blue robo anon and do some world touring.

>>546590819
damn I can't believe I look that cute.

>>546593332
The MMD folk did good with what they had to work with back in the day.
But yeah obvious night and day difference in quality, good job on the rip.

So the frame will be a good headset and amazing all-rounder, but it's a "first gen" of valve's new headsets, and you shouldn't even bother if you already have a quest 3.
Did I get that right?

>>546594562
gAY!!!!!

>>546585746
lets play on sunday :)

>>546592535
you got it backwards, mahjong degenerates the brain, so in the long term, every mahjong player's brain shrinks into the bare minimum to function, you'll just be starting ahead of the curve

where karaoke

https://streamable.com/7nxa15

grenade wizard

i'll host late karaoke in like 2 hours if people want

>>546594253
I replaced the batteries in my trackers so maybe I should get back back on and do some more world exploration

>>546567083
hey maybe if you don't want to be surrounded by trannies you could spend less time playing gender denial simulator

>>546595993
straightest man in that room I'm afraid

>>546597345
don't be afraid

>>546596919
Come fight on the yamato i need more men!
https://vrch.at/k78abukn

>>546597487
give me the pso2 yamato assault in vr and maybe

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>>546597165
Listen man, being surrounded by trannies isn't the problem.
I mean it also is a problem, but I can choose to not be in instances with trannies. I can choose to block trannies. I can choose to just interact with only my friends and do cool things in VR with them.

But this kind of shit where it's forced by the developers in all of the menus and is so in your face, is something I no longer have the option to avoid.

It is being actively displayed to me any time I log on the game. I get that VRChat thinks that troons are its main userbase and it has to advertise to that, but trannies are a minority of a minority. Throwing them a bone during LBGTQ+ month or whatever is one thing but the constant tranny advertisements in the menu throughout the entire year is ridiculous.

>>546595663
> you shouldn't even bother if you already have a quest 3
depends on how much you care about not running facebook os on your face

>>546598020
If you cared enough to get an entirely different, more expensive headset, you probably wouldn't have bought the quest 3 in the first place

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>>546580681
fresh batteries

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Booth? Gumroad? Na I'll just be myself.

>>546598909
The zuckerberg endgame...

>>546598482
Took too long and now im going to play other games. I'll catch you one day cute blue robot.

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>>546599417
sorry anon

>>546597992
Why are you getting so mad that LGBT people are hosting their own events? If you're only playing with your friends you have no reason to even check the public calender for events. Such a non issue

>>546599657
First off, look at the first OP this chain started off of and you'll see I'm talking about LGBT tranny shit being advertised in my menu as a banner advertisement, you don't even have to go searching for it.

Secondly, the calendar was originally launched as a way for you to check when events are happening in the groups you joined.
Recently, they made a change that pushes random groups (that you aren't even a part of) events to your calendar as well instead of just the group events you're a part of. And wow what a coincidence that 80% of the random group events you arent part of is a bunch of LGBT tranny shit.
10% is something else
The other 10% was the 18 year old's birthday party that got sent to everyone last weekend (lmao)

>play tranny game
>act surprised when you see gay people

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>>546600546
you think you're on the left but you're on the right

>>546600021
The main banner is to some scammy charity, big deal just ignore it.

There's a seperate event calendar just for your group events and imo the public events aren't THAT in favour of LGBT shit. Seems just that one group hosts 3 seperate events daily which kind of scews it but there seem to be a few normal events presented aswell.

>>546598238
you mean like a steam frame

>>546601450
>big deal just ignore the thing that appears literally every single time you open up your menu (you open up your menu like 80 times per night minimum)

>There's a seperate event calendar just for your group events and imo the public events
And it didn't used to be that way.
There is NO reason to have this public event bullshit that is curated only to tranny and LGBTQ+ groups to advertise to.

Stop defending shitty ridiculous pandering by the development team.
Going out of your way to get angry about tranny features is one thing, yeah.
But with the way it's been featured so much in your face that you don't even need to go looking for it, I mean come on man it's ridiculous.

Anyone know what approach artists are using to add working biceps, shoulders, and thigh flexing to their movement?

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https://vrch.at/kn39j873
Karaoke

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>>546600721

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VRC real vs vrc REAL. vrc FT fbt anime girl and REAL guy in vrc

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>>546602705
my homeslice was using a shader to be in vrc. its hard to see

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why are there so many worlds using half life assets?

>>546603828
Cause those assets are OPTIMIZED while still looking good

>>546467171
>>546466406
kizzy?
anyway whoever you are please dump them all some time if you still have them all :3

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If anyone's itching to try some escape rooms in vr and is willing to play some in a vr game that isn't vrchat, me and my bf just played some good ones
Devilish Diorama and Devilish Diorama 2 in the game Escape Simulator. I don't want to spoil the gimmick or anything but it's a good concept that plays well to the strengths of vr.

>>546597992
Maybe if you made events you would see them there, until then, you'll see events other people make, and a lot of those people are queer.

>>546605970
Featured tab is a bit of a thing the vrc devs have control over thoughbeit.
That includes their own agenda and ofcourse paid
And I ain't paying

>>546606054
I mean, of course you're not going to get some Nazi rally featured, that's pretty normal.

>>546606054
Didn't one of their "LGBT" devs get fired recently over grooming ingame?

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passthrough cameras are a must for me

for porn

it works really well to cut out the background around the woman

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>>546584786
>set alarm clock to pm instead of am and slept right through it
im so stupid, maybe next time everyone

>>546559641
They were thinking that they weren't selling the headset to people who buy monitors for the wall behind it.

>>546564881
If seeing stuff outside of VR is so important to you in a VR headset, consider taking the headset off. Or buying a different headset.

>>546595663
Bro it's literally valve's third headset, stop smoking crack. There's not going to be a vive 2, there's not going to be an index 2, and there's not going to be a frame 2.

>>546608008
>no vive 2
retard

New to this. Please recommend moddable horny games/sandboxes

>>546608662
vrchat

Valve is changing the course of VR. They know what you do with those vive trackers and base stations. No longer will this hardware be used to pleasure men over the internet.

>>546608662
>VRC
it has everything... games, erp, social hangouts, everything in between
>Bonelab
isn't a very good horny sandbox but it's very moddable and has good physics interactions. it gave me the worst motion sickness I've ever experienced in my life, so horrendously bad I experienced true dissociation for a few moments

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>>546609032
>>546609208
>vrchat
i don't want to role play with dudes
>bonelab
is it like vr gmod?

>>546608662
vrchat

>>546609138
Jokes on them I'm sucking VR dick day one on my frame and with the monochrome passthrough I can find the dildo easier

Not to worry, there will be EU karaoke tonight.

>>546589849
I didn't but I bought it anyway because playing the game in isometric overhead view is actually fun as fuck.

Good karaoke morning my karaoke friends. Are we karaoke ready to sing some karaoke on this wonderful karaoke day?

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Walkabout Mini Golf!
1300 UTC! (this is in 2hr 10 min)

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>>546612783

>>546611784
Does it support passthrough?

>>546604151
Not him, but I only remember those two previously posted /vrg/ comics

>>546613903
Karaokegang OWNS these threads