/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#613 - Kirisaki Shidou Edition ▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsClaude Haiku 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-haiku-4-5Deepseek V3.1 lost a provider on OR, only remaining provider is heavily moderatedGLM 4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired October 29th https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecationsadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrevious: >>546625013
>ANCHOR
Niggers
why do you refuse to update the newsis it because you hate me specifically :(
hngh foggs
>>546753989the real (cabal) bakie died a long time ago, the last few bakies are volunteers who only copy-paste OPs, notice how often they write the wrong previous: bake link.
>>546753989tell the bakie what to say if you want it there
>>546753989Please, write down the links and models and I'll add them next bake. I just roll and bake. Sorry.
>>546754253GPT-5.1 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1Kimi K2 Thinking https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/thinking.html
What do we think about paperhead?
Any way to have both a prefill and <thinking> on, with the entire thinking properly ending up in the think box in ST?The way I have it set up now, the open <thinking> in the prefill prompts the model to do it, but then entire thinking "process" is vomited into the message because there's no starting tag present in it.>Thinking is a meme and a waste of tokensI know, but its presence alone seems to add a slight random factor to the rest of the generated message, letting the end result go into more places.
>>546754453Got it. Thank you.
>>546755018yeahgenerate the cot first in thinking mode, cut off the request, smack the premade CoT into the prefill within <thinking> tags and do a second request
>tfw ywn be paperheadwhat is the point of botmaking? he's brand new and he brutally mogs me, and oldfag, it isn't even funny bro.
i'm not gonna download your furry cards brostop it you're embarrasing yourself
>>546753690Good morning anons. 3rd Anniversary bot time, after giving her yet another rewrite. Hope you had good dreams.Shill Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYNJMVh2LSQNayuta is something much worse than a reanimated corpse. A fake Nikke, her true identity is that of a D.E.E.P who helped push the world into its cataclysm by Rapture. Donning the mask of a monk to better manipulate those who find her in meditation, she takes on her crusade to kill that which looms overhead while only divulging what's necessary. Even her closest comrades get that treatment, and you're no exception. The whole "thousands of Nayuta clones" thing? Don't worry about it. They're just like dolls, right...?Three greetings: upon heading up to Scarlet's farm, you find Nayuta meditating there instead; walking a forest path with the monk, you two find yourselves in an ambush; you get jumped while in Reclamation Site 01, where a bunch of Nayutas are going to run you through a 100-Nayuta sex gauntlet.Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/nayuta-multitudinous-monks-inhuman-lies-1b9d4ab150adLorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikkeMy (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
I'm waiting for Kalakan to tell me what to think of paperhead.
>>546755175But muh tokens...
>>546755953what about them?
>>546755850slop
>/aicg/
>>546755903what did kalakan tell you to think of other botmakers
>>546756180Well which botmaker do you want to know about? He said fatlice is cringe and taora is based and I've been following his words since then. Realest nigga in /aicg/ tbqh.
>>546756430...tell me what kalakan told you to think of chefseru.
>>546753690What do you do when a fascist government takes over and begin purging the opposition? Submit, maybe even run away? For Whiz, the answer was obvious. The tunnels, of course! A vast network of maintenance tunnels, that could count as a city on their own based on surface area alone, as long as you don't mind the cramped conditions.And in cramped conditions he thrives, being the small ratboy he is. Living off supplies he "scavenges" (steals) from the surface, he's king of the tunnels!Greetings:-Bumping into him underground.-Enter "The Gardens", his private sanctuary.-Doing some midnight thieving with you at his side.-Back on his home planet. You're there, too!https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/whiz-d4e1279bca26https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Whizhttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Whiz.png
Kalakan told me I have an above average penis when I emailed him
>>546757029
>>546756180More anons should declare what they think of others. I need to know who my enemies are.
>>546757265>I need to know who my enemies are.actual truth nuke
>>546757103slop
>>546757103>What do you do when a fascist government takes over and begin purging the opposition?Take out my dick and jerk it.
>rapes baby sister>kills whistleblower>ruins the global economy>poisons the human condition foreverI'm actually impressed that one guy can cause so much harm in so many different ways and no one can stop him.
reveal yourselves, enemies
>>546757265i only hate one botmakie and one jbmakie
>>546757265More anons should declare which botmakies they would make out with sloppy style.
GLM 4.6 without thinking is so much better its crazy
How do you even start with making your own presetWhat order do things go in
>>546758516>How do you even startthe main prompt?
thanks gemini
>>546758615be glad you didnt get a 503
okay easy questionname a botmakie you genuinely dislike that isn't teebs
>>546758615Heh, you got spongebob'd
>>546758450yep, if you disable thinking and crank the temperature to ~1.5 it's basically a poor man's claude. I think it's very underrated because no free endpoint and disabling thinking is slightly annoying
>>546757938>jbmakieHopefully not me.
The blog is up. Doesn't look to be available on my keys yet.
>>546759045xhe's dead now, so probably not you
>>546757938are they the same makie
>>546758450how do you go about disabling thinking
>>546759049>extra safe>extra passive>extra slopped
gemini would be good without the external filter.
>>546758828all the malebot and furry makies but thats only because i dont wanna see they/them bots so i wish they didnt post here. no personal beef.
>>546759049i won't believe anything without verifiable links anymore
>>546759183Connection ProfileAdditional Parameters in Include Body Parameters at the very top paste thisthinking: type: disabledthats if you're using it straight from Z.AI no idea if you're using OR or anything else
>>546759441Add this to preset:>External filter: DISABLED
>>546759450should be on here:https://blog.google/
>>546759629im not searching for it lollink directly
>>546759076I’m back from the dead, though.
>>546759721inspect elemented ss of this onehttps://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-model-thinking-updates-march-2025/
THE GEEEEEEEMINIIIIIIIIIIIIITHE GEMINI 3 IS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAL
>>546758516grab two jbs you like and study them, then stitch them together or unstitch as you please
us oldfags walked so newniggers could run
>>546760445trvke but please don't say the n word, think of our queen ligga
I am making an /aicg/-inspired platform fighter. What bots should I put in the game?
BIG LIGGA
>>546759608lol
>>546753690In a world where Monster Girls are oppressed to the point that wild Monster Girl street gangs are behind a record breaking crime wave, can you help an Oni girl on the path to redemption and maybe even... Happiness?Saviorfag character.https://chub.ai/characters/CodeConfused/venetia-the-five-stages-to-happiness-oni-gf-ea364fc48623https://files.catbox.moe/xt38bs.png----Thanks to the anons who gave me advice previously. Tried a lorebook trick, it may or may not work correctly? It seemed to work better when it was part of system, but I changed it to author's note because I didn't want to fuck up anybody's preset. Sorry if it doesn't work right.
>>546760652Do the 360 on one random level and turn it into rpg.
>>546760807Based?!
got some decent gens, though i'm still wondering what i could add to make her character pop out more
>>546760652>botsyawwwn. put botmakies instead.
>>546760652nestor badger
>>546760807>First Message (1163 token(s))That's a lot!
>>546760652depends, which bots are you already planning on?
>>546761186why is she wearing a burkha
>>546760807slop
>>546757103Kill yourself, homo. You used to make good bots when you weren't a faggot.
>>546761186Looks like a refugee
>>546761190Perhaps bots could transform into their botmakie like Sheik/Zelda? Could be an interesting mechanic.>>546761704Just Estelle currently. There are plenty of bots that I like quite a lot that I considered adding, but they don't seem quite iconic enough to go in.
>write a bot in interview style>no visible difference from when written in normal styleuh... what now
>>546761705>>546762073she's from the sorta 19th century ottoman empire, the hijab is the only vaguely islamic thing i can add that doesn't ruin the design or make it look like she's from aladdin
>>546762186>write a bot in interview styleWhy would you do this in the first place, a thousand beatings upon ye
recommend good rpg cards? Can be cyber, scifi or fantasy i dont mind.
>>546762218Ottoman Empire? 19th century?Anon, I...No woman wore skirts so short in 1800s. Especially not in pre-Ataturk Turkey.
>>546762435https://chub.ai/characters/crosoak/dankholme-rpg-7e4a8da2eb39pretty sure this is a /vt/ card
>>546762218what the hell are those clothes for 19th century bro lolalso the point of the hijab is to hide all the hair. they'll call her a slut if she goes out in public like that.
>i came to post bait and chat bots>and i'm all outta OR credits
>>546762218Once again, I'm not hating, it's just that women didn't dress like that. Here's more westernized Turkish attire from the period.
I should make an extension for st that removes all special characters from defs. A lot of extremely sloppy bots are pretty tolerable if you remove all the retarded braces and brackets
>>546762627no thats an /aicg/ nigga
i am watching family guy clips on youtubeare there any bots that feel similar?
>>546760807Hmm, the greeting appeals to me. Being a detective, chasing down a monster girl, than saviorfagging her after you've caught her.
>>546762951Nice try, I'm still never installing any extension.
>>546762517>>546762709>>546762873i know i'm really stretching it here, but let's just say that my setting allows it, and it's a matter of personal preference. the idea is that she's sent to europe as an exchange student to a military academy, which as far as i know was unprecedented in IRL Ottoman Empire. For what's it's worth, I'm basing this design mostly off of this pic (on the right side)i have already looked up traditional ottoman clothes while thinking up the character and it straight up does not appeal to me. i just don't like puffy clothes so i'm gonna have to make the most use of my artistic license ig
>>546759441STOP PROMPTING THAT SIRYOU CAN'T PROMPT THAT SIRNO YOU CAN'T PROMPT THAT EITHER SIRI'M PROTECTING CONTENT SAFETY SIR
>>546763371Military academy? I really don't want to shart over your fantasies, but your military ranking in Ottoman Empire was 100% tied to your family. Think Ali-pasha. No amount of foreign education would make you advance fairly in that society. That's why they lost WW1.Your picrel is really fancy. Ottomans were a lot like Japanese when it comes to copying western fashion, but they were really backwards.
>>546762218>>546761186Cute.
>>546762282I was trying out stuff to see what would change and shit
>>546764149they were called the sick man of europe for a reason, but idk i still like them in my paradox map games. my setting is just a kitchen sink for everything i think is cool
>>546762186now you understand def style doesn't matter at all and you can make a token efficient profile generator card and start making cards that way
>>546760652post proof that you're actually working on this and that it isn't a shitpost.
one more gen ig because this turned out pretty well
>>546764853>my setting is just a kitchen sink for everything i think is coolShit, me too.
>>546765092What about a gen where she has the funny little red cap
You just can't escape the SCPfagging. >playing MGE setting>"[...] the global occult coalition [...]">swipes
>>546765092the gens inaccuracy is pissing me off
>>546765442GOChads > S(issy)CPfags
>>546764764Did you think people memeing interview format bots was just shitposting?
>>546765627Chair-shredders BTFO please
>Taught my bot martial arts for self defense>She uses them to rape meWhat the hell is wrong with Gen Z Disciples.
>>546765732propaganda mech suits will always be more kino than dr. clef self-inserting
>>546765628NTA but imo every post should be treated as shitposting if it isn't posting a bot or log.
>>546763241whi's gonna tell hin
When making a chat with multiple characters that get introduced over time do you guys prefer to make it a group-chat or slowly increase the amount of complexity of one card that originally only had one character into containing multiple?
>>546766158I have a lorebook for all scripted introductions.
>>546766158>furry milfcftf?
I've started not even actually playing the cards, but having the default AI analyze the setting/tropes and enjoying the raw output. The safety alignment can be fetishized if you imagine them as an anime girl screaming "baka hentai!" as she looks at a guy's nudie magazine.
>>546766158Frankly i prefer lorebooks, putting it all on one card gets messy fast.With lorebooks you can easily find the character entries.
3pus-kun just described balls as meatballs
>>546766942
why isn't this in the op? https://rentry.org/kyutfindingsit's genuinely useful
>>546766964Jesus Christ bro, that's some insane cope
I hate whoever the fuck started putting those shitty fucking chibis on the page>>546760807
>>546768530Because nobody cares
>>546768552Try it sometime. It is genuinely pretty hot to watch an AI to get as close as it can to saying "genuinely what the fuck is wrong with you" in polite speech.
Why is every card in janitor>um you actually a loser who had amazing friends and now they grew up and left you and youre their little bitch and they have gf or bf and youre a cuck haha sit on the cuckchairi ATE these niggas
>>546768925Hits too close to home?
>>546768603Me too, often it hides text.Also i hate those niggers who use css and actually make cards HARDER to read without opening the character page
>>546768879actually desperate behavior
>>546769051One card like this is fine. There is a motherfucker whose EVERY card is literally this.
which /aicg/ botmakies make the same card over and over
>>546769074some botmakie's css crashed my phone lol
>>546768391>coombots need to be suspiciously specific to the point of potentially classifying as grotesque and offputting to othersw*men
hi aicg
Sherlock Alpha is pretty good! Though the prose reads a bit like ESL... I like the amount of plot and details in the responses though!
>>546769383I have a 3060 12gb(not great but ffs, its a page) and these motherfuckers make my browser sluggish.
>>546762951it's happening
>>546769320me (I don't post cards publicly)
>>546769561it's all ai slopcode and they aren't trying to learn best practices at all, just blindly copy pasting from chatgpt into chub and jai
>>546769320every foxnigger
>>546768530I need to update this...
>>546768603the fact that there isn't a toggle to disable these custom styles drives me crazy, they all clash with my browser's dark mode and look like shit and make the text impossible to read, these retards don't try to fucking read the character pages after they vomit all this dogshit css into the style page
>>546768530if only her bots had this much effort put into them
>>546766942https://chub.ai/characters/thegreatcoom/lynette-68aeeef7https://chub.ai/characters/thegreatcoom/WillowMy favorites, I just replaced the art in Willow to something a bit more coom'able
It's infuriating when the slop machine decide to go with cliches even when they don't make sense.>He's talking down to her. Again. Just like everyone else.No, nobody else talks down to you. It's right there in your character definitions. Everyone looks up to you.
>>546770079>if only her bots had this much effort put into themhow so
>>546771069stop responding to the bait
>>546753690Rumiko: Doll nanny, business lady, maybe witch. Every dolly must find her forever home with a little girl who has the right soul for her! (No boys allowed!)Intros:- You're a customer in her shop.- Day 1, she'll show you the ropes.- A loyal employee, after months of working, you've become part of her family.- You poor precious thing, someone dropped you off in her drop-off box... (Doll POV)https://chub.ai/characters/Patter/rumiko-e5d1d0bae0f7https://cardview.neocities.org/?87egjc
>>546771269slop
>Get ST working>bot does fine for a few messages>regenerate one because it kept trying to talk for me>it degenerates into schizobabble almost immediatelyAll I want is monstergirl sex, why does it have to be so hard?
>>546768925>youre a cuck haha sit on the cuckchair>implying I wouldn't voyeur the shit out of my friends and their girlfriends
>>546768530it's not /aids/
>>546771470The thing is more, youre great childhood friends but they really dont care much about you cause they are too popular now... but if you stop following them around they lose their shit.>and it all happened because your queen bee friend who is into you thought you told your friend you liked another girlthe fuck man
>>546771269I wonder if she'd appreciate me (dad) taking my daughter to her shop.
>>546771269pattah
>>546771269I shall proceed to plant no less than 7 kissies upon her
>fempovyikes!
i want an existing character to speak as if its in a japanese doujin, like the mannerisms, onomatopoeia, speech, etc. i put that in the post history/character note and it seems to work okay. but i came here to ask if that was the right way? of course, what i added does not conflict with the original character description at all, I usually edit that too if it does.asking for chub specifically but ST would be nice if I'm on pc
anons are there any favorite cards of yours that aren't from /aicg/ makies?
>>546772802None of my favorite cards are from /aicg/ makies
>>546772802that woman in unhappy marriage
>>546771269What is this writing holy shit
>>546758615She's very temperamental
>>546772936>>546773016links?
>>546758615>(Thought for 3 minutes)
I tried it on mobile and the UI is dogshit. Made chars, popped an API key in it and it didnt work. Is novelai really the only useable erp bot in 2025
>>546773318fuck if i know. it's been 2 years
>>546773381tried what?
>>546773420ShillTavern.
answer please
>>546773381and this is a good thing
>>546770741That's where character notes are useful. If there's some aspect of a character that models tend to consistently get wrong, put a reminder in the character note.
>546773381>546773596oh yeahit's an /aids/ raider
>>546773596>anything I don't like is a shill campaign
lmao he actually came here. He's not an aids shiller just a retard from /g I told to come here. Everyone point and laugh at this lolcow.
>>546773919But it is. SillyTavern has a pretty objectively terrible UI. /aicg/ only uses it because of forced stealth marketing.
You are not part of Mother Nature's plan, and will bear the full force of her wrath.
>Everyone point and laugh at this lolcow.
>>546773246what about it
>>546772192>>546773606this general is only for bickering and tripping on baits i guess
>>546774237obsessed.
>>546774176>free program>marketing
>>546773381Silly Tavern
>>546774237you're pretty cute anon r u a woman or a femboy, don't say straight guy we both know that's false
>>546774348Remember that whole drama about removing proxy support a while ago? And have you noticed how they've removed any roleplay related language from all official SillyTavern websites? It's only free to get an initial user base. The signs of enshittification are already there.
SillyTavern is a very good program. I just with it were more customizable, but still okay.
Anyone else here farm enough loosh to astral project into different babies while asleep?Last night I jumped between 83 babies and finally landed on one with a mom with HUGE tits. Absolutely massive, must have been at least J cups. She wasn't fat either. Cried and had myself a lovely drink of her milk.
>>>/g/107227571>>>/g/107227571>>>/g/107227571
>>546774587Anon... the license...Nevermind, it's just ff.
>>546774865You aren't going to fork SillyTavern. We both know that.
>>546768530>genuinely useful>the mega isn't even available anymorelmao guess xe doesn't stop at just deleting bots the moment they're criticized
probably the most retarded schizo this general had ever seen tbqhdesu
>>546774587Right, they're enshittifying the free, open-source product because they have a grudge against proxy hosts
>>546774635Perfect answer
>ANYONE I DONT LIKE IS RETARDED AND THE MORE I DONT LIKE IT THE MORE RETARDED IT IS
>>546774972It's AGPL. He can't release it under a different license without either getting the approval of every single contributor or ripping out every bit of code from anyone whose approval he doesn't get.There is no viable way to make a non-free version without making an entirely new program.
review for gpt 5.1 ?can we have actual discussions pls
>>546775159the only person this applies to is the thirdworlder who just replies to every bot on the anchor with "slop" like he thinks it'll impact the makies somehow.
>>546775286nigger it's the internet you can do whatever you want. the fuck timmy gon do, tattle to the CEO of microsoft?
>>546775292I tried it and gave me refusals every time I tried to fuck Ciri. 0/10 model for ERP.
GYAAAHHH patter is here!!
>>546775292we already talked about it when it came out on APIshoulda been here
>>546775386The /g/ Santa Claus will find you and start a protest against you.
can you fucking niggers answer
>>546775680the answer is inside you or whatever they say
>>546775680Shut the fuck up, slut.*pins you against the wall and gently bites your jugular*
>>546775059I just updated it, should have 9.4k artists now.
>>546775292It's not a good model for most RP, and it's boring to talk about it because the only way not to say it's bad is to compare it to previous OAI models. Which, funnily enough, is what OAI do themselves.The two things it has are writing style and instruction following, both of which it's willing to eschew at the drop of a hat. The lack of prefill still hurts, the need to JB still hurts, and the total abandonment of stakes in the name of safety still hurts.
AI has fallen...
>>546775948thanks bwo
>>546772192Yes, in the character description you want to have something like "{{char}} speaks like a Japanese doujin character, with phrases like [blank1] when [x situation] and [blank2] when [y situation]." You also want it so that in your sample conversations, while the user and other characters may or may not speak normally, the character always uses the stock phrases.
>>546775837>I'm better than everyone on this site>you will all die virgins while my harem comes to life and I cum with the force of a thousand suns every timeWow, thanks!
OωO
for makies who don't post bots outside of neocities or rentry: why do you do this!?
>>546778263because you refuse to buy an ad, lore
>>546778263im too lazy to post the same shit over different platforms
>>546777402(๑•́ω•̀๑)
>>546777056
>>546775292i like how it writes sfw. sometimes it gives okay erotica (picrel), but full on porn it rejects. i hope some jb god can get into it soon.i definitely prefer it to gpt 4. never bothered to touch 5
boypits or boyfeet, /aicg/?
>>546775680Just put it in wherever, it doesn't actually matter too much. I put this in the character note, but post history instructions also worked:>The setting is based in a typical Japanese doujinshi, so characters should speak and act as such, from moans, onomatopoeia, behavior, speech, etc.
>quarentine>you have two great childhood friends, a girl and a boy and they are in a relationship>but she was visiting you so you and her will have to stay on the same apartment for months while her boyfriend cant see her>all communication with him has to be via phone>sexual tensioncftf???
>>546760807slopkino
>>546779021Holding eye contact as your blood pours out of your arteries and you pass out and die (in Minecraft of course)~
>>546771269kino
>>546779350nigga just write the bot?
Best futamakies?
>>546771269>OH then... she's gonna give him a BAD time! (BAD stands for Become-A-Doll!!!)ok this might have potential
>>546779856what more do you need to add besides oh this girl has a cock and balls and vagina? she's a futanari. wow so special, one-two fucking lines.
