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Crossplay on or off?
>>546841196PC? off. Console? On
reposting since other thread is ded>>546838485basically, it's a game that needs a casual audience to enjoy the pve and social aspects of the game to do all of the pve content that makes the pvp compelling in the first place (pve content = treasure hunting and events = loot on boat for others to steal) but while both pve players and pvp players are motivated by cosmetics, only one group is motivated by the social dynamics aspect of the game. it's led to a situation in sot where pve players now almost exclusively play safer seas where all you do is pve pirate shit with no pvp while the sweats spend literal hours sailing not finding a player, and when they do, it's a meta slugfest with borderline exploit boarding techniques using physics glitches to fling yourself towards boats at mach-fuck using never-fixed bugs, fast gun swapping, technical movement, and stalling. at least in sot, everyone's on the same playing field with all having access to the same weapons, but arc raiders/extraction shooters adds an additional loot=power layer on top.freekits and the new mines that trivialize large arc to help casual players beat them quickly just exacerbate the problem where casual pve players are pushed further and further towards KOS to keep or get their shit despite them not enjoying that and the pve's luster fully wears off, which will eventually lead them to quit, and that player bleed will bubble up as the game crystalizes its meta and turns into a bunch of only diehard hardcore pvpers that do nothing but pvp using increasingly esoteric and buggy tactics all while the enemies become minor obstacles to per-wipe progression that will be ignored if they aren't relevant to the current meta or aren't optimal for making resources/currency used for kits. its a fundamental flaw in the genre imo
>>546841196on if you queue for triosoff if you queue for solos
Does anyone bother with backpack skins and other attachments?
>>546841418I cannot fucking STAND dangly bits. Fuck weapon charms.
Wish you could mix & match outfits so I could recreate the FBC Ranger look. Most of the parts are there but locked to different suits...
>>546841418i want to, but not yet
>consolefags are the niggerscolor me surprised
>>546841418I change my backpack to match the skin I am using. However I don't use the charms or hanging item. They all look ugly or weirdly positioned.
>>546841418Yes I like the backpack recolor you get from the Tryhard tier in trials. Big fan of stuff with antennas. Also have the potted plant hanging
>>546841515the cosmetic system in this game is fuckedit's fantastic in the finals, and i don't know why we got such a downgrade between them
>>546841590Tell them about per capita!
>>546841418I really like this combo
>>546841127ferro 1 at 50%20 rounds of heavy ammolight shield at 50%1 grey bandage1 lil smoke grenadeinstead of random gear, freekits should be static and specifically designed for engaging arcsure someone CAN kill another player with nothing but a ferro 1, but at that point it's as much the victm's fault as anything else>>546841418attachments no, but I do like some of the alternate backpacksshame most of them looks like shit and hang away from the body instead of curving with it like the default
>>546839930>>546840460>>546840950I'm on the fence on a PvE only mode, because innately the game has been designed around PvPvE and it's what causes a lot of tension in the game. Before I had fuck-you amounts of resource income to just kit out basically every run it was almost too stressful for me to play for long because losing shit actually set me back hard. But it's also what makes the game exciting, dealing with 1-2 rats during bunker or a matriarch takedown is fun in its own right.But my only annoyance is anyone who engages in rat tactics to get a huge advantage pretending it's any form of real PvP when the opponent barely fights back. In that sense it's just a sociopathic tendency simulator. Here's to hoping that the PvP element doesn't kill new player influx in the longterm because new people lose their progress too much to have fun. But the game also seems to be designed explicitly in ways to prevent that from happening too hard with safe pockets, quest rewards and loot abundance.
>>546841047I'm not talking about the top path, I'm talking about the two individual skills that have arrows pointing at them.One gives you stamina regen at critical health, the other gives you one dodge roll.
>>546841418I've picked an outfit/hair combo and I am not changing it at this point. Got 3600 shekel coins just collecting dust
I think I found a Field Crate on Buried City but could not find a depot for the life of me. Basically wandered the map carrying this thing for 15 minutes then just bailed.
>>546841590Figuratively AND literally. You think Jardavius Sneed is playing this game on PC, cooperating in PVE and shit? Hell no, that scholar is sitting on his couch, smoking a blunt and lighting up everyone in sight.
>>546841659You can even change your watch in thr finals. There's so many slots for you to experimentHere's hoping they devs listen because it's a highly requested feature
Anyone wanna trade for this?
I can't find prickly pears.I found some mushrooms at hydroponics at the Dam, but that whole area is pozzpilfering cumguzzling shitterswabbing rat city, solo or otherwise. Christ.
Isn't it dumb as hell most of the good blueprints for level 3 augments come from bluegate breach room? Why the fuck would you make an item only appear on one map in one location??? I hope they change that>to get this item you need to shit in a storm on a moonlit night with a blood green ground of diahrea in the forbidden sewer around the corner near the dead maggotI just found the DEFENSIVE Augment after I found the SURVIVOR one in the same goddamn room.
>>546841659>it's fantastic in the finals, and i don't know why we got such a downgrade between themBecause Arc is a lazy cash grab anon
>>546841850usually one will show up on your map; they field depot USUALLY always spawn when you're in range for that
>>546841942there's a few spawns on damlook up arc raiders maps and filter by nature drops, it has specific drops there
>>546841809you have to take the bottom path nodes to grab that one, anoneven if that wasn't the case I'd still take a free dodge roll over what's probably something useless like a "10% increase below 25 hp">>546841850they're always in the curved-roof raider buildings>>546841942I consistently find them near the apartments/house on dam, at teh cacti near the buildingsthey're very easy to miss>>546841979wait really?
>>546841850Right next to the left of Plaza Rosa there's a depot where boxes spawn almost everytime in the same block.That's my go-to whenever I need to do that challenge
Seems poopy? I'll have to rush the room some more I want that recharger one
>they are unaware
Ryders = KOS
>>546842154ooh I like that
>>546841806The other problem with a PvE mode is it will kill the friendly/coop part you sometimes get in PvP. It changes the dynamic to PvE is for PvE and PvP for PvP. Whereas currently, every player could be one or the other and people find that in itself enjoyable.You won't see any posts saying "I accidentally ran into this guy but then we were both chill with it and helped each other out". It'll just be "I was playing in the PvP mode and got KOS wtf?" then "Its PvP what do you expect retard".Its the same with any game that separates modes.
>>546841985>>546842040>>546841985Okay thanks bros I'll try again
>>546841703Kek
>>546841590Could be a huge teenager factor on PS5 vs PC, lowered empathy etc. they still get their jollies being the bully to others. Would be curious to test this for different regions as well.
>>546841806>I'm on the fence on a PvE only mode, because innately the game has been designed around PvPvEIs it? Is it really? Mechanically the PvE is fleshed out with considerations like armor penetration and weakpoints. Using light ammo vs heavy matters when taking your shots in PvE, but in PvP a bullet is a bullet. We have clear gear progression in PvE where getting better gear increases your potency vs the ARC dramatically and you need to risk expensive loadouts to fight the heavier opponents. In PvP gear progression is a sick joke and some rat with a scrapgat risks absolutely fucking fuck-all and his PvP ttk performance is within tenths of a second of someone rocking BIS gear.Narratively nothing makes sense. We're fighting against Skynet and have been desperately forced underground. We're all working towards the same goals but the moment we get topside we start blasting each other? The FUCK?!?!This is blatantly a PvE game that they slapped PvP into as an afterthought. Before someone says "but it spent more time in development as PvPvE than PvE", blatantly they didn't do a good job at the PvP bit and it stinks of talent core staff making the heart of the game and then less competent staff taking over part way through.
Freekits don't provide a weapon or shield. There, solved. Your options for combat if you must resort to a free kit are run away or earn yourself a weapon & ammo somehow. But they do come with a couple of adrenaline injectors.
Is this just PUBG with PvE?
>>546842209Seriously tho why is it so common. Everytime someone tries to murder you it's fags wearing either Ryder or Origin
>>546842231>The other problem with a PvE mode is it will kill the friendly/coop part you sometimes get in PvP. It changes the dynamic to PvE is for PvE and PvP for PvP. Whereas currently, every player could be one or the other and people find that in itself enjoyableThere's also the element that even with PvP turned off, there's still PvP: you're competing for resources, trial points, drone loot. But now you can't punish someone for competing over your resources either, which leads to another form of common griefing or PvP where someone can just be a rat closer to the target you're destroying to loot it. Common problem in MMOs where resource nodes aren't instanced per player as well, and honestly never has given me a good feeling when someone is competing for something I need.
>>546841806 >>546842417nah, soloqueue is close enough to a pve mode as-is, since it's super comfy 8/10 timesand duos/trios is the tryhard sweaty KOS shitfestthe only reason the game is interesting/thrilling is because there's always a chance someone can show up and ruin your day if you're not paying attention or get unluckyit's not got a deep enough progression or combat system to sustain a purely "pve" mode>>546842476just look at it anonit screams edgelord mcstabsyouinthedickI wear it when I get fed up getting 3rd partied and play a couple of KOS roundsthen switch back to my chill set for comfy pve times
i just learned the hard way that stinger can 'easily' beat torrente shot-for-shot because the stinger can hit headshots more reliably. i want to say it's not even close... i started shooting the guy first and i tracked him pretty much perfectlyFEELS BAD MAN
>>546842423Freekits should provide more stuff
>>546842154You get an infinite use 2 minute cd surge recharger with that one
>>546842643>it's not got a deep enough progression or combat system to sustain a purely "pve" modeIt wouldn't take much to flesh it out, and I'm certain that a huge chunk of the playerbase would instantly and gleefully swap over to PvE without looking back and without regret.
>>546841590I play on ps5 and yes it is a fucking nightmare when you turn off crossplay
the fact that you need to bring a kit full of 100k worth of mats to do any PVE stuff and still get ratted by a gimpsuit preorder cuck with shit you can make with scrappy really sours the game. Would it be so hard to make an augment that reduces PVP damage taken and dealt across the board by like 50-75%
>>546842863The simple fact is there is no solution, its just the way these games are. Nothing that you could change would improve the game, it would just fuck up something different.
>>546842423retard takethe singular purpose of freekits should be killing a few small arcs, looting a few containers, then fucking off back to speranze to build an actual kitsee >>546841728>>546842834at which point a majority of the (most likely larger) pvp population would leavecongrats, the game died
>>546843031>at which point a majority of the (most likely larger) pvp population would leaveNta but the PvE crowd is always larger than the PvP crowd in every game.
>>546842964Upgrading the fucking shields for one would make a huge fucking difference. Increase the TTK so that shooting first isn't 80% of a fight.
>>546842964of course there's a solutionmake higher grade shields attenuate more damage from ammo types below them, forcing people who want to play the rat to invest more in their kit to compensatelight = unchangedmedium = takes 20% less damage from light ammoheavy = takes 40% less damage from light ammo, takes 20% less damage from medium ammo
I hate that when I bring kits that are more and more expensive, I get too much fear to loot in higher value areas or even loot the players I've killed. All it takes is one rat nigger to have gotten there first or to be waiting for me to loot a corpse for me to lose my fully upgraded and green+ modded guns, meds, nades, etc. There is only so much I can do to mitigate the risk like bringing extra smokes, shock mines, or barricades, but even then it just costs even more just to die to some bullshit anyways
>>546843031>at which point a majority of the (most likely larger) pvp population would leaveYou're just proving that you don't have a clue what you're fucking talking about. The PvE groups in games always dwarf the PvP sweats by an order of magnitude.
What if they made it so zones+conditions outside of vanilla Dam Battleground had a minimum value loadout requirement?
>>546843186Congrats now new players get stomped by older ones and everyone bails.>>546843140Higher TTK will lead to people bitching and crying because you land multiple hits and the other player just runs away and heals.
>>546843268Geared people need to stop bitching.1. You have better gear2. Skill issueStop crying you niggers you don't deserve to stomp.
>>546843268This is what ABI does and it seems to work decently
>>546842417>Is it? Is it really? Mechanically the PvE is fleshed out with considerations like armor penetration and weakpoints. Yes because weapons seem to either work well against ARC or against players and rarely both: a torrente shreds players but is rather useless against ARC unless you bring 15 stacks of ammo and even then.Anvil is kind of in the middle in that it works in both scenarios, but doesn't shine in both. Ferro works well against ARC (and being a little potshot taking faggot to anyone running in the open) but you get your shit pushed in by anyone with a better weapon. It could use a little nerf at level IV if anything for PvP because it can 3-shot a medium shield and that's very lethal with any sort of first hit advantage.Shotguns work good in close scale betters but their penetration/range leaves them wanting against ARC.Venator is amazing against players but honestly very mid against ARC for a blue weapon.Renegade works surprisingly well against both, but also is a blue weapon, so is really just a better ferro/anvil.>and his PvP ttk performance is within tenths of a second of someone rocking BIS gear.oh so you're either trolling or retarded, okfreekit fags barely stand a chance against medium players>that they slapped PvP into as an afterthought.Yes, clearly they slapped PvP in as an afterthought when they've designed a really strong system around audio levels and other types of signals giving away your position. Really necessary in a PvE game.
>>546843292>Higher TTK will lead to people bitching and crying because you land multiple hits and the other player just runs away and heals.Then put some more skin in the game and bring a rarer gun.
Someone post the new trials
>>546842964they overcorrected the gear disparity issue from TT2 by making heavy shields worthless.>Nothing that you could change would improve the gamethis presupposes that the game is perfect in it's current state which it isn't. bringing any gear at all is All Risk No Reward in it's current state.
There are a lot of freeniggers in this very thread.
>>546842863>100k of mats for pvewhat the fuck are you on abouteven shit players manage to extract and do quests with just free loadouts
>>546843545One can assume they're talking about taking on the biggest two enemies currently in the game.
>funny guy thinks it's cool to take a pot shot at me at the last extract open with a rifle>play ring around the rosy with some containers and wait for the arc to approach>freekit using a ferro I and I could kill him but I decide to sneak past the arc as they light him up>hit the extract and watch from inside as he crawls towards the doors>shut the door before he could get inHope he learned his lesson.
>>546843545try doing queen or matriarch with your freekit lol.
>>546843545Go on, do a harvester with a free loadout
The quality of the game would dramatically improve if they just removed free kits entirely. If you somehow managed to lose all your shit to the point that you can’t even craft a single gun, you fucked up hard and deserve to scrounge uncontested areas as a lesson for your utter incompetence
>>546843613He didn't.
>>546843268that would do nothing but make those zones even more hostile>>546843292a day 1 player can easily buy a medium or heavy shield from the trader and the augment needed to equip it>>546843345that's a disingenuous take and you fucking know it, faggotit is objectively a problem that someone using entirely grey equipment can easily kill someone using the most expensive gear in the game, if they get the drop on them, because it's trivial to get the drop on someoneyou seem to be too stupid to understand that people will "stop" taking expensive gear out when they gain nothing for doing so, and without taking that expensive gear out and damaging/destroying it to be a resource sink, the game gets stale and dies
>>546843491I don't think theyre live yet
bros what should I doI'm addicted to running Silencer II on everything I can, even when other options are objectively better, it's just too comfyit's dirt cheap to craft too
>>546841196Off
>>546843646What part of the game is lacking? Exactly?
>>546843662Then I will continue the harsh lessons.ARC is not my enemy.It's my Army.
>>546843891I bring a compensator for every gun now unless I know I'll be taking long range shots or doing something equally retarded
>>546843345Yes they do, it would incentivize high speed low drag maximum dick sucking fags like you to bring something to the game other than your "everything needs to be tarkov but worse" mentality. You SHOULD get stomped by someone with decent gear compared to your poverty spec outfit. You SHOULD endlessly bitch and moan that your [[[[elite]]]]pvp skills get neutered by someone leaning on their high-priced gear like a pensioner with a walker. Go play fuckin Fortnite if all you want is kdr go up.
Free Kits should be like scavs in Tarkov and should only be able to join mid-game matches.
It just doesn't make sense a lot of the time.>Freekit fucker attacks me fighting bots>dies to botsWhy? You had nothing to lose so you killed us both you dumb fuck?
>>546844095He knows it makes you mad, he wasted nothing but gained enjoyment from your specific demise.
>>546843956there is no incentive to use like 90% of the lootpool and the game with quickly consolidate into ferro/kettle/stitcher 'loot routing' as freekits fish for the most meta spawns.
>>546844071Please, just for another incentive to do custom loadouts.
>>546844095the freekitter mind is so focussed on pvp that they have literally forgotten the game contains threats other than players.
i had a creepy kid camp me for like 10 minutes, i ended up walking out and killing him while only taking like 20 dmg, but i was scared
add a karma system for player kills that aren't a result of self-defenseblock negative nigger from using freekitsproblem almost entirely solved
>>546844071Needs to be 20m, give normal people 10 minutes without free kits
>>546843956The PvP component is halfbaked.
>>546844071they already prioritize freekits as backfilli join far more games that are ongoing when running freekit than i do kitted
>>546844170>>546844370you're an earlygame freekitshitter no one 50+ hours in is still freekitting at allgo to bed already
>>546843608>>546843625>>546843627all things you don't have to do at allshocker you have to take a risk to get high end stuffpretending you can't just watch someone do all the work and swoop in and steal the fruit of their labor or just straight up betray themacting like you can't be a distraction and kill weaker enemies or bait attacks for in lobby team ups before ducking to cover>I should be able to get the best weapons and gear (not required for progression) for 0 riskI get asked to help with bosses all the time in solos regardless of what I have or planned to do, some are more than happy to help or share maybe try using a mic
>>546842423Free kits should come with a shitty grey shield, and Ferro should be removed from the kit.
>>546844424On normal maps nah no one needs to free kit, people generally chill. Stella? Free kits galore 100%
>>546844468Ferror, stitcher, and kettle should be removed from the freekit pool. They can have the rattler and hairpin.
I can understand freekitters pvping desu it's extremely good practice for positioning, mindgames and aim and little risk, all reward
the stitcher shouldn't be better/close to the fucking bobcat and torrente
>>546844505Stitcher and Kettle can be solved by making the tier 1 version have smaller magazines so they have the same problem as the Rattler. Hairpin is just a cruel joke.
>>546844440Why are you trying to be a tough guy here? You just look pathetic.
>>546844505i got sniped with a hairpin and that thing is seriously evil if people ever learned how to use it.
>keycard in the ass>deployable barrier>door blocker>jolt mines>ziplines>looter mk3>fully modded vulcano ivaight, time to loot the dam control room
>>546844782Level 1 hairpin ain't shit, but upgrading to 4 is cheap as hell and its quite chill as a secondary weapon. Use it to aggro arc
>>546844735thanks for addressing my points
>>546844893door blockers are so cheap and so strong. i bring SIX now
>>546844893>dies to level 1 stitcher rat
>>546843780>>546844059>WAAAH I HAD AN ADVANTAGE AND LOSS WAAAAAHCry more you no skill trannies GET GOOD
you can camp here and kill people spawning in at the end of the hallway...
>>546844974There is literally no valid rebuttal to this. If you bring in gear and die to rats: You suck. End of conversation.
I fucking LOVE looting water treatment.
>guy on high ground opens fire on guy on low ground>I take shots at guy on high ground>guy on low ground runs to shoot at me>I down him>guy on high ground finishes me off from low healthbrilliant move
>>546845017shame on you wayne
>>546844930What is there to address? They're your subjective opinions, you're also arguing against an entirely different thing (hurf durf you don't have to do it, hurf durf you can freekit your quests), and you made a shitton of assumptions about others like the blithering idiot you seem to be. On top of responding to a hyperbole like it's 100% factual.
>>546845017Stella shouldn't be 30 minutes long i think, if it's supposed to be the Shipment/nuketown style map of Arc Raiders. maybe like 15 minutes at most and no mid round spawns.
>>546845032>always get between two enemies fighting- sun chu
I want to kill queen but it never ever seems like a good opportunity
>>546844782 >>546844505hits from suppressed weapons outside their modified alert radius shouldn't show a directional indicator>>546844942my only complaint is that you can't take them down/recover them like unused jolt mines - you have to breach the door yourself to get back out>>546844974a rat's opinion is worth less than their free kit
>>546845097Making the last 15 minutes spike difficulty by flooding the place with shredders and idk, fireballs with triple the armor sounds like a fun hellscape to deal with for the pvp faggots without forcing arbitrary timelimits.
>>546844974you are brown.
>>546844059>tldr: i NEED the game to stratify and gimp my opponents based on my hours played so i have something in my life to feel superiority and control overthis genre is flawed beyond saving. it's all just "most dangerous game" power fantasies for the poor
Buffing medium and heavy shields solves all the freekit ratnigger problems
>weapon mod 1 and 2 have no downsides>weapon mod 3 always has a downsidewhy is it like this
>>546845502just downgrade the mod tier by 1, slightly lower buff without the debuff
Shredders are cool as hoot and need to be in other maps NOW
>>546843956Nobody is bringing anything out because a free kit nigger has enough firepower to knock you. Even though you’re more kitted out and could theoretically win most engagements, they have zero incentive not to try and their chances of winning are too significant not to. The game is built entirely around scrounging. You get way too much shit in a free kit. It encourages eat behavior that crafting a simple weapon helps mitigate. It’s not about removing PvP, it’s about making a fight make sense. Right now free kits destroy any inkling of holding back
>>546845167I mean I just spawned with a free kit so I had nothing to lose, just seemed particularly retarded
my biggest issue is looting augments only allowing light shields making you basically a loot pinata for freekitfags, worthless augment to take unless you're in a squad and even then you're a liability.
>>546845668iirc theres a looting 3 that lets you run med (maybe heavy too idk)
>>546845668>he doesn't know
>>546845668This is balanced by the facts that your ass is better capable of securing any truly rare shit, and the fact that you should be safely extracting with fat bags full of loot more often than you're dying. Being vulnerable to being ganked is the drawback to having the augment's utility built around greed. That said, looter 2 could have a real fucking passive instead of "lmao let's make ticks even fucking more of a nothingburger"It's the combat augments that should be much better suited to repulsing a rat. They might give you an advantage, but it's a very minor one compared to the advantage of a rat shooting first.
I'm only 15 hours played in this game so far, but even then, I'm looking at the wiki and realizing I have not seen at least eight of the weapons, ever. Possibly nine. Not used, not found.
>>546845038i just lost that tempest. got smoked by a kettle 1 (3rd party of course)
>>5468459153 are pve only, and for whatever reason there are like 0 epic blueprints
>>546841515>FBC Ranger look
>>546846015We don't talk about firebreak
>>546846046it had to make a genuine double-take to because it looked like some bad cosplay parody
>new timed map event you can only attempt once per cycle>pvp is disabled>the map spawns stronger ARCs in greater numbers>players have to complete objectives around the map>the final objective is fighting a large ARC such as a Matriarch>finishing the event guarantees at least one random blueprintI fixeded the game guys
Suppressor II on the Rattler 4 is comfy af and cheap as hell too.
>Be me>Be geared>Kill freeniums>Come to /arg/>Boast I can't relate to plebs who die to grey kitsLmao at all of you. Get good.
>>546846191Why make a Rattler 4 when literally any other grey gun at level 2 is better
>>546842820and they just don't list that anywhere?
Is there a good place to find tier 3 augment blueprints?
>>546846240Same as all the others like looting mk3 cautious having binoculars, it has the item on the icon for the augment but that's it
>>546846232forgiving and easier to magdump at close range than the kettle.
>>546843292>you land multiple hits and the other player just runs away and healsgreat, freenigs already have enough time to use up all their heals, now I can too
An youtuber made a good point about the kettle, it should be a pneumatic gun since it has the air canister, giving it the effects of a built in suppressor
>>546846129They used to look like actual fbc goons then for some reason they decided they wanted to make the playable agents goofy
>>546846369it IS a pneumatic gun anonor did you not notice the stealth score is high, and firing it sounds like a paintball gun?
>>546845346is somebody forcing you to go out with poverty gear?
>>546845085Not opinions...? I presented options and scenarios to do "100% of pve" with 0 risk..? I did respond to hyperbole sure, you can have that ad hominem poster. Here's an opinion: the constant victim discourse in any discussion about this game is getting really fucking old.
>>546846465It isn't silent enough
>>546846369>>546846465has ANYONE figured out what is the point of the air canister on this gun? It's not a Helical magazine like the Calico because it has a Sten style magazine on the side. It is not an airsoft gun because there is muzzleflash when fired meaning the gun uses combustion (maybe electronic firing ammunition which makes sense given the setting, centerfire cartridges are expensive to manufacture) but it still doesn't use compressed air.
Is there a worse feeling than just starting a raid and immediately getting caught by 3 wasps and a hornet with no cover?
>>546845248would be cool if it spawned multiple waves of enemies from different spots on the map that would try and clear the entire map
>>546846734Starting a raid with less than 20 minutes on the clock.
>>546846693maybe its a small synthesized fuel canister and its firing the bullets using the synthesized fuel as a propellant
>can fieldcraft the DIY flamethrowertime to hoard those air fresheners
>>546846734starting a raid and getting killed while the screen is still blackFUCK STELLA MONTIS
anyone know where the color puzzle start is in stella
>sound queues just decide to stop working on buried citywhy is space port the only good map in this shit
>>546846893Its complete dogshit and doesnt kill anything
>>546846693>>546846816warpig.com/paintball/technical/paintguns/tippmann/C3/
>>546847025It's funny and that's all I care about
>>546846893>>546847025Yeah even if you wanted to use it on larger arc, cause blaze grenades are good, they all kinda fuck you over close rangeHonestly with the range of the fireballs, it would be legit good
>look up augment blueprint farm spots>some room in blue gate>ok guess I'll run a free kit to scout it out the first time, then come back later with gear once I know where it is and can hopefully farm it reliably>load in with free kit>as I'm running around I pull a hornet so I run into a building>some dude is looting>say hello raider, he says I scared the shit out of him>run out the other door, he asks if I can come back to help him kill that hornet>I come back, we shoot down the hornet, and then he fires a ferro into my back>we scramble around the building and I manage to kill his bitch ass anyway>he had a ferro 4, rattler 4, stitcher 4, still lost lol>admits I'm the better player as I call him a bitchWhy couldn't you just be nice though, I was leaving
>get shot in the back in stella>put up a pitiful fight>guy runs over, i sigh and say "damn">"gg bro, good fight." and he defibs me>confused, i thank him and then say "but you shot me in the back. if you wanted a good fight you could have asked">"oh yeah, i never thought of that.">runs away after defibing>mfw
>>546846976>sound queues
>>546847060it's not propane propellant. shoot it in the firing range and it has muzzle flash and emits smoke when fired which suggests gunpowder is used.
>>546847281>he doesn't queue his soundsngmi
>>546847281yes nigger shit like footsteps, breaches you fucking retard
>>546847315lol
>>546847315>>546846976The correct spelling in this context is "cues" >>546847281Dont be a bitch just let him know politely.
>>546847387Considering how he immediately chimped out he deserves to be called out
>>546847387no way it's funny I mix up similar sounding words all the timeyou would mock someone for mixing up their/they're/there as well
>>546847387>Dont be a bitch just let him know politely.back to plebbit
>>546847484yeah back in 2010s sure lmao who tf cares about spelling anymore when you apes type like dis ong
>>546847559stop chimping out anon
no bunker or snitch bs
>>546846171sounds good
>>546847559>bro just be ignorantPeople like you are the reason literacy is down
>>546847646>damage queen or matriarch Oh boy
>>546847646>snitch bs>FLYING ARCAll kinda doable, going to take that anons advice and not queue for a day to then be in an easier group.
>>546847646What do you get?
I made it to Rookie 2 but I didn't get the emote. Why?
i've lost 4-5 kits in a row nowhttps://streamable.com/qnes4f
>>546847789These are trials to level up ranks. There's some cosmetics and emotes you get with each tier
>>546847646>>546847681time to kos everyone on the map so I can solo pump my hullbreaker into the queen's crabussy
>>546847830You get the trial rewards at the end of the season. You need to be in Rookie II or higher when the season ends.
>>546847830You get the rewards when the season ends. I'm just aiming for tryhard for the backpack rewards cause everything else looks like shite
>>546847646>Open ProbesElectromagnetic Storm will be fucking wild with pvp
>>546847646Reminder to not play the first day to not get trial dumped with the sweats
>lost compensator 3 blueprint>got snap hook blueprintall works out in the end
>>546847775>going to take that anons advice and not queue for a day to then be in an easier group.I didn't even think of that, seems like good advice. Feel like I need a break from the game anyway.
>>546847646finally the queen week
>>546847775Huh? Does this actually work? If I can avoid going against the autists again this week I'll skip a day to maintain my climb. This past week required 54000+ to eek into top 20 and I'm sure some had it worse. As fun as farming snitch cores is...
>>546848027>>546847775Not play at all, or just dont get any trial points? Should I just play Stella Montis only for a day? It seems impossible to not damage flying arc
>>546848105Trial points aka you can't extract at all if you do ANY of these>>546847646So Stella should be fine.>>546848104Yeah you only pop up in the leaderboard once you get trial XP. The idea is all the grinders/people who will actually try are awake on reset and going for it so if you trial now you will be in their groups.
How to fix PvP>limit free kit to once every 60 mins>free kit only gets rattlers>introduce a grey shield for free kits, why's their augment grey but their shield is green?>significantly buff medium and especially heavy shield>heavy shield should let you plink like 5 ferro/anvil before it breaks
>>546846369Air guns are loud like firearms.
>>546848105It doesn't trigger until you make progress on the trial, so Stella should be fine, since I dont think it has any of those.
Are the backpack medal trinket and that ugly ass outfit really worth it to be stressing out over ranks
>>546848252perhaps you should just get good
>>546847851what a fag
>>546848437Do you live in this general or something?
>>546848252thats retarded heavy shield shouldn't make you invincible
>>546848256This is not true at all. Airguns have no supersonic crack or cycling action from the gun and make probably 5% of the noise of an actual firearm.
>>546848484I'm not the one seething about not getting an auto win from gear
>>546848252Light Shield should break after 1 ferroMedium after 2Heavy after 3
I got jumped by two different freekits during my last stella run, both were playing male characters and both had female voices, and it was their real voices.... I don't know what to make of this.
>>546848491Epics/legendaries should make you a miniboss. Enough of this "everyone gets a fair chance" retardation. This is what ruined MMOs.>>546848527>make a suggestion>YOU'RE SEETHINGThis isn't how adult discussion works.
>>546848620>it was their real voicesdoubt.vtf
>>546843409>https://arcstats.teon.ccHere's the TTK calculator for you faggot.>https://arcraiderscalc.comAnd here's the per-shot breakdown for you nigger.The difference between the best and the most OP PvP weapon in the game (Venator) and a fucking stitcher is 0.31s for mediums on bodyshots, the purples don't even come close most of the time nor they are worth investing 10 times the fucking price for an absolutely marginal and inactionable increase in performance.The only outlier is the vulcano that stops working beyond 10m, everything else is shit.
>>546848662if you want a real discussion you don't open with 'heavy shields should make you invincible'
>>546848817You don't get to dictate what warrants a real discussion and what doesn't.
>>546848515the noise comes from the expanding gasses propelling the bullet down the barrel. Whether that gas comes from a compressed canister or combustion doesn't matter. If your airgun is low pressure then that's no different than shooting subsonic rounds.
>>546848851That's something someone trying to have a dumbass discussion would say
>>546845905The only worthwhile PvP augments are the tac2 and the tac3 defender. Combat augments are uniquely shit for no reason at all.
>>546848945Throwing ad hominems won't suddenly make you in the right. I suggest you go back to Discord. You have no authority here.
>>546849057Might I humbly suggest you kill yourself
>>546848252When I have a heavy shield it exudes an aura that simply redirects all bullets around me but explodes if someone pickaxes it once.
>>546849018Combat augments are for pve
>>546849232it's because of the forced pimp walk it makes you do i think
>>546848802There's no point in trying to argue with those niggers. The only people defending this current PvP system are those who are gladly killing on sight or take great joy in betraying people. Shooting first is 90% of the battle. The tenths of a second advantages would matter if this was counterstrike or something where all hostile targets are clearly defined on a level playing field. But this is a looter game where you can spend significant periods of time vulnerable checking containers, and it is trivial as fuck to stalk someone from 100% outside of LOS due to third person cameras. That's without even touching on the fact that this game wants to encourage players to collaborate to destroy giant crabs and absolute fucking niggers get handed free wins on silver platters if someone dares to extend an olive branch.
>>546848195>>546848264stella has flying drones so avoid those like the plague or sudoku if your logbook shows any points
>>546841850it's west of that Plaza Rosa, but the kicker is that it's partially buried. I think there is a hatch that is exactly on the other side of a building from the depot itself
>>546849245>shit hp regen>shit hp regen but slightly less shit>holstering speed with light shields?!?!!?!Dogshit.The only reason to run a combat is if you want a cheap heavy shield carrier (which is also shit so people just run mediums with tacticals).
>>546848195I'm pushing max rank possible at the moment, top 5 were 78k+ so I think I'll skip a day to test it out. I was already considering only going for 1 rank up instead of 2 this past week to make my grind easier, my friends are one rank tier below and they were ranked at number one with half as many points needed to make top 50 on mine. Rewards aren't great but I want the base patrol outfit in case we ever get interchangeable headgear.
>>546849207Admitting defeat, I see. But nah, I don't think I will. This place would be better without "people" like you who think this is their Discord server where they get to decide what can be talked though, so it would be great if you took your own advice.
>>546841418Nah, the only thing I see when I look at a raider is their clothes.granted all of the backpack skins and attachments I currently have are shit
>>546849303I'm not taking any green skills because I dont want that perfect walk to get any lighter.
new trials are ass again
this is the one time this type of shit really bothers me while playin a videogamedont know why
>it's another "stash is full" episodegame gonna die cause of this i swear on your soul.
>>546849624do Queen and stop kosing
>>546849325stop being such a crybaby loser holy shit anon
>>546849325PvP absolutely needs to be less lethal to be closer to ARC. Just buff the fucking shields so the TTK increase allows for more tuning space for weapons as well as makes ambushes and ratting less prevalent specifically because TPP enables it so easily.I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY NERFED SHIELDS SO HARD FROM TT2.
>>546842834>>546843261yeah anon seems to think they wouldn't add way more pve content and shit around it after.add twice and many arcs, probably more than that really to scalepersonally i just want twice as many bots right now anyway. people need to be too busy with bots to really pvp. right now arcs are just fuckin things there to be noisemakers to alert everyone.
>>546849657yep>stash full>recycle a bunch of shit that doesn't look important>ACTUALLY THAT WAS IMPORTANT RETARD YOU JUST LOST ALL PROGRASS ON WORKSHOP UPGRADE II MORON>HAVE FUN GETTING THOSE RARE ITEMS AGAIN
>>546848662>This is what ruined MMOs.MMO PvP is liquid hellfire dogshit when it's heavily biased towards gear checks only turboshitters would enjoy it
>>546849657Quite a conundrum when you have a lot of expensive stuff but you are now inclined to run any of if because grey garbage is just as good if not better just by being cheap as dirt.You only really need good gear for PvE, and even then you are risking to die from some stitcher+ferro shitter too easily.
>>546849825I'd say Albion was fine before it tilted hard towards f2p and lone-wolf shitters.
>>546849624these trials are pretty nice
>>546849694>wah wah I want to loot without repercussions
>>546849928God bunker was boring.
>>546849325>>546849694This. There's no incentive to bring anything but grey weapons.>>546849825>heavily biased towards gear checks only turboshitters would enjoy itAnd where's the problem with that? Those people would still be a tiny fraction of the game's humongous playerbase. The average Joe would still be an easy target, but the people who put in the time would be stronger than other raiders. The only reason anyone would be opposed to this is because they wanna maintain their advantage while not putting in any effort.
>>546849821u gotta TRACK YOUR SHIT man>>546841025anybody else's keyboard disconnect whenever they click a button on the main menu for the first time in a session, or am I just retarded?
>>546849825Seriously, only a subhuman or idiot actually thinks>"you know what would be fun">"if I turn on god mode in GTA">5 min later>"wow this is boring"
>>546849940>wah wah I don't want to engage in actual combat
>>546849919>albion
how to fix game in current state overnight>decrease damage of player vs player damage but keep player vs arc damage as it is>fix "shields" to like its halo overshield>double arcs on map>augment loadout doesn't drop on death
>>546850078I'm talking way way back when good gear was a hard-earned privilege as well as the game being much more team-oriented so a single guy with good gear still needed a good and coordinated team to excel.It's shit nowadays, I know.
>>546849968this retarded faggot is a neetbux drawing leech with 18 hours a day of free time and wants his ez pvp wins because he has no real skills but was there day 1 grinding
best trials so far
>>546850274>hide in corner>wait for players>shoot in back>?????>PVP SKILLZ!!!Lol
>>546850274Keep seething, Discord tranny.
Snitches should prioritize extracts, less rats
>>546850324The trios only being possible at really high scores for trios pisses me off, so I will just get 3 stars and give up on going higher
>people actually think this games "pvp" is fair
should i get the beekeeper or the diver suit?
>>546850590beekeeper is based
going in with a hullcracker IV for the queen
>>546850759watch ur back (;
>>546850575*The trials
>>546850576yeah honestly games like this where the fairness isn't balanced at the start of rounds is always going to be like thisthe people who dont see anything wrong with it that way are the ones benefiting from certain playstyles and inherent advantage.the guns sound and feel good to shoot, the mobility is good, the ttk seems fair if it was an actual shooter with everyone on even grounds but its notyou throw in the risk vs reward, and its high risk low reward, it feels off when the time to kill is this low. it almost has it but not quite. being "good" at this game is just as laughable as tryin to be good at fortnite
>>546850462>discord trannyyou will either troon out 5 years from now or an hero because your miserable unfulfilling life is spend on shitposting for days on end how SHIT you are at games
I've been playing arc raiders for an hour and idk if I want to refund it or keep giving it a try.
>>546849971There's no mechanism in game to track future missions and workshop levels. Only current goals
Is the medium shield movement penalty negated with 5/5 Used To The Weight?
>>546850869>and its high risk low reward,game easily has an income 2x your loadout value (4x on stella) for a 10 minute match and you can easily avoid pvp, you're just a retarded freekit shitter getting executed by venators like the third-worlder you are
>>546847646I really like Trials as a concept.
>>546850958Damn, this tranny sure is mad. Maybe if you accepted your mental illness you'd be less angry. Although I still think you should take your own advice and off yourself so the level of the general would increase. Nobody like shitposters like you who ruin discussions.
>>546851083your argument falls short when you strawmen like that.try again or concede
I have 15 snitch scanners
I WILL lobby for the devs to reward no lifers like me so we have a significant PvP advantage over the plebeians. I'm not alone in this. Change is coming.
having to go 5+ positive KD to fucking extract is getting tiring and killing the game for me.Turn this faggot ass loading bar loot system off. Just fully display the loot instantly so I can get the fuck out. Sitting still is not a fun mechanic in any way
>>546851113It reminds me of weekly mobile game rankings.
>>546850759>>546850776good enough for me. there were freeloaders lurking everywhere lol. i bounced the moment I hit 3*
>>546851338I wouldn't mind if the load times weren't so fucking long with that stupid animation
>>546851338if you KoS me i will crawl into the most exposed most populated section of the map and you will get shot with Ferro I's for looking in my direction.
>>546851201i just threw 12 snitch scanners and then got fucking hit by a hornet stun and died.no idea where that thing came from. now im out of snitch scanners.
>scooting with a rando on Spaceport while two other guys are killing a bastion nearby>they invite us to loot it cause there's too much shit>come out of it with 2x Bastion CellsIt's nice when people are chill, offsets the psychos.
Where do I aim on the queen and matriarch?
>>546851443You aim for their weakspots
>>546851443queen: bodyno idea about the matriarch. havent even seen it yet
>>546851443the sole weakpoint of the matriarch takes a snaphook to access. Yes, you will regret it.
>>546851443Legs for the armor to break off. Matriarch, the red "eyes" on the front
>>546841025Should I keep playing arc raiders or just get a refund?
Should I refund this game?
I spent 20 minutes trying to actually play the game with a geared loadout and loot hotspots and then winning fair fights. I stand still for 5 seconds to loot and its endless rats after me. The more rats I kill the more rats come from the activity. Lose the loot from multiple earned kills because people are holding shift W toward the flares.Wanna know how I make up my gear loss from this happening? I spam stella montis free kits and ape people for free quick gear.Sick gameplay loop bro
>>546851803The maps are too small or something idk. When I played the beta test and loaded into dam and say the outer like 30% of the map greyed out I thought to myself "oh we'll probably be able to explore those other parts of the map on full release" but nope. I've tried to loot the reinforced whatever-the-fuck room in blue gate like ten times and I'm constantly swarmed with niggerfaggots because there's only like 1 loot location per loot category.
>>546851631If you're really on the fence about it, stop playing now and wait to see if there's a patch this week to fix the weapon balance and then play another 59 minutes or whatever and make your mind up then
>>546851909The maps felt big at first but everyone rushes center and hits whatever hotspot is closest. Once ur central its hunting for flares so you can rat
>>546851982Pvp isn't really all that fun for me. Feels like most of my guns are pea shooters while other dudes guns just shred me
>>546851803the all risk no reward phenomenon is well known at this point. the TTK is too low when 90% of the duel is determined by who saw who first regardless of whether you're using tier 4 bobcat with heavy shields or stitcher 1 with light shields.
everyone slowly realizing that the extraction shooter genre is inherently flawed and shit now that all the friendly chungus fags are kos fags
>>546849650he's optimizing the fun out of the game, that's why it bothers you
>>546851517>bodyretard, you are supposed to knock the legs off via joints
>>546852456and then what? it still crawls around like a retard. depending on your location you might dont even have a choice because of how far away you are from the queen
>>5468521353v3 or atleast 2v2 are the only playable modes. Solo is a fun time but you cant take it serious theres too much unavoidable rat shit.I farm gear in solo to use in squads.
Queues aren't mixed?
>>546845502they all have downsides
>>546852550you are aware that you are sitll doing damage to it?knocking off legs makes it less mobile and does damage which kills it
I got 1000 arc bucks, should i spend them on a skin/new backpack or should i save them for the next deck?
Where do I go to trade?
AnvilCompensator IIIJolt MineJupiterOspreyVenator
I need to become more evil.
coupla SEXY LADIES in my squad fill today huh
So do the Jupiter/Equalizer not do any damage to players at all or why have I never been killed by one? Will the Aphelion be the same thing?Captcha: D4SHYcan't escape the bronies i guess
il toro 1s shooting off 2 blasts in 0.5 second is kinda fucking gaythere's no way they make us wait more than a week for a fix on that FAGGOT shit
>>546853308The worst part is, everyone doing it that isn't standing completely still is likely using macros. There isn't many keybind combinations that would allow you to do it smoothly while also moving around like a CoD player
>>546853239>they each paid $14 for the retard shorts
>>546853010Use your own brain for once
>>546853147Same. I just got kek'd by a free shitter with a Rattler because I only had a Ferro equipped in close quarters. Of course he had the newbie jumpsuit. Told myself I'd start KoSing jumpsuits but the first one I saw after that was unarmed and said "don't shoot", so I showed him mercy.
>>546853308Works for the Anvil too
>>546853386You know the game gives you premium currency?
>>546853239update we died within 3 minutes
does hidden bunker count as a major map condition? i feel like it doesnt change much
>>546853379I think you underestimate how sweaty people who play this genre are.
>>546853423ah, right. the last guy that did it was just using anvil/toro. i also fuzed him in a tiny room and i didnt hear his shield break. not sure wtf that was about
>>546853245I've certainly gotten railed by oneMost people are probably too scared to risk a queen reactor
>>546853141Show us your catalogue too
>>546853620yes its double points
>>546853620All the ones on the lower side of the map icon are 2X major map. So Queen/Matriarch, Arc Probe, Lush Bloom etc are not 2X
So when will we have real objectives that require a loadout?Everything is more efficiently done with a free kit or cheap green kit.The end-game loot is literally just fully modded lvl4 guns. So why would you ever bring those into a match? Its like bringing $20 hoping to win $10.There needs to be something more important to loot than gear, so it makes bringing your best gear worth it, to get that loot. Imagine 1 special supply drop that gives you a token for a million dollars IRL. Now ill happily get over gear fear and bring all my best stuff. I want that million dollars.
>>546853859golden ticket for one stash slotcannot be safe pocketedno raider hatchesone extract
>>546853974that's actually a pretty good idea
I think the Arpeggio might be my favorite gun that I've found so far.
i just had a 1:30min queue for buried cityit's over
>>546854056I like how it looks a lot but it's a little underwhelming compared to pretty much everything else
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1oyq6cf/psa_these_kinds_of_people_cause_others_to_shoot/HAHAHAHAHA
>>546854201I dunno I think it's pretty solid as a rotor popper with being able to put 3 rounds right into it for one click, ammo management is reasonable, good mag size.
>>546854348>weapon holstered in a duo looking at people running at him guns drawnno survival instinct
Increased Arc Probe map variant is absolutely the play for the new trial right?I did a quick test run and the game seemss to shit out probes left and right.
Please no more trials involving snitch scanner spam GOD.
>>546854513I'd say do it on 2x and just let other people breach them. You get credit just for looting.
>>546854513>is the map condition with a billion probes a good one for the trial that wants me to open probes????what do you fucking think dude
>>546847150had a similar situation last night>running to extract in plaza rosa>get hit by a ferro as I rappel down>call the train then wait in the pipe buried under the rubble>when train pulls up he bombards the room with grenades>I get downed>dude comes up to me with a defib in hand>"we good? i'll defib you if you promise not to attack I just wanted to pvp but I don't want to kill">I tell him yeah we're good I don't have anything valuable on me anyway>we extract peacefully
>>546854348faggot has a venator and trying to be friendly?100% deserved
>>546853974My idea was a beeping module that acts as a skill point. You need these to get 1 skill point and you cant safe pocket them. And they beep in your backpack so everyone knows you have them.Same concept either way. Something more important than your best gear, so its worth taking gear to try and get.
I've actually considered just asking people if I can blast them for my dailies lmao, maybe I should pack some defibs up my ass.
>>546854634yeah but how many probes do you come across on average night mode map?I come across maybe 5 on a good day.Here I did 12 in a free kit run on space port to scout things out, can easily do +20 with 10x adrenaline and hullcracker.There's absolutely ZERO chance you will find 10 probes in a normal night mode/electrical map, maaaaaaaaybe hidden bunker/locked gate if extremely lucky, but doubt it.
>>546854725No way the raider deck currency doesn't get wiped, people are in the thousands
>>546854725just blast them as the doors are closing
>>546854765Is there some exploit or is it just from doing free kit zergs?
>>546853859Literally no reason to ever use a loadout if you are a solo playerIt's not even rats you have to worry about, sometimes you get a Rocketeer or some ARC that wont leave you the fuck alone, or like you are running to extract with 5 minutes left, and a Bastion is in your way, or you are just walking through a building and those little flameballs get youI guess it has to be easier if you have purple stuff, but I'll make a whole blue kit thinking>yea this is it>got my Ferro IV>got decent gear on>this is going to be a good runthen you die outside the extraction because too many ARCsand that's just my experience with ARCs, I still get people who will rat KOS me for no reason, I'm not great at shooters or pvp so obviously I'm going>hey, don't shootand they just pump their whole magazine into me without me firing a single shotget back to base, and even if it cost "nothing" still feels like shit to have a completely empty inventory, and you wasted like 5 minues>crafting your favorite gun>crafting ammo for it>crafting looting kit or w/e>crafting shield>crafting bandages>crafting shield recharger>equip it all meaning you have to scroll through piles of other garbageor I can just>sell everything in my invenory>click free loadout>if I die I invested literally nothingand I'm just a noob, someone posted how they have a grappling hook, I didn't even know that was in the game, but he said you can't actually use it because you keep it in a safe pocket in case you actually die
>>546852746What are you asking bro, be less vague
>>546854845I'm at 1800 cred just playing the game normally
>>546854765yeah I don't get that, I've maxed out my level, workshops, expedition project, deck, current live event battlepass, I have +500k with a stash worth +1 million AND have +1300 creds, I think they need some sort of extra meta progression or conversion for creds/exp into something extra, even if it's grindy and slow.Now exp is completely worthless and we will be able to instantly unlock the next deck instantly the moment it pops up, which I find kinda weak and it will feel "unearned".
>>546854845From playing a SHIT ton. Quick glance and Shroud is just under 4k and Cloakzy is just under 6k.
>>546854847if you're dying to arcs on the regular it is unironically a git gud moment
Last person to join the fight wins and gets the loot: The Game
>>546854802This. Many a raider has eaten a ferro headshot from me as the screen fades to black
Free loadouts are such a problem>load into stella montis>end up in the medical area>corpse after corpse after corpse>I check one>get shot in the back>retreat and heal up>hear someone else is getting shot in the same area I just was>they're on mic asking for help>I run there>don't get there in time but manage to knock the guy who killed them>area now has 2 more corpses>I check all their loot>literally EVERYONE is a free loadout>best thing I get out of it is a green key for buried cityThere were at least 10 dead people in the medical area with everyone having the free loadout augment Embark NEED to put in some restriction on them, or the game is just going to devolve into low stakes Call of Duty shootouts every timeAnd to add, free loadouts are actually just a symtom of a much worse issue with the game. The abysmal gear balancing. Grey gear shouldn't be able to hold its own as well as it does right now compared to blue and purple gearThat's why we see so many retards bum rushing, because grey weapons are on the same level as purple weapons while only costing a couple of scraps to makeWhen the gamer dads and various casuals actually manage to get to a point where they can reliably make purple gear, they will realize this too
>>546855013Goddamn
>>546855123This is because 90% of players after a fight are immediately trying to shove loot up their ass instead of getting safe and healing/reloading
>>546855109Yea true, but just explaining my experience with making a loadout and I'm probably only slightly better than the average playerSo in my mind theres no question why most people go freekit in soloDefinitely feels more like you should bring your good stuff in squads where you got some teammates to help you out if you get downed
>>546855187yeah they need a cooldown for that shit, going into stella montis with good weapons is just not feasible unless you're in trios armed to the teeth and ready to just kill EVERYONE.solo though? fuck that, one mistake and you're downed and out.
>>546855261You join a fight at the start. You need 10 kills to get all the loot.I join at the end. I need 1 kill to get all the loot.
bros I just started, and like 3 mins in and my inventory is fulldo I just start salvaging stuff? I've never played an extraction shooter before
>>546855343Agreed, I don't even think Stella Montis is a bad map, it has just completely revealed the economy and balancing issues with the game
>>546855501yea, the most basic stuff can usually be skipped because you have a chicken in your base that gives you all the basic materials after every match, go check that list so you know what to skip in the futureactually not sure if salvaging shit in the field is good, because it would just salvage into the items I described above, meaning you could probably just skip those toobut yea you just collect a bunch of shit the first few times you play, and then you have to start having a discering eye and not just grab everything like a skyrim chest
>>546855501it's time to get out bro. as you play you will have larger stash and better augments for more loot. you will also have a better idea of what is useful and what isn't
>>546855501Just extract.Go to the workshop and click track for all the things you need to build/upgrade.This will tag all the resources needed to get your upgrades so you know what to look for.
>>546855501make sure you're tracking all the upgrades you need so that you know which items to keep
man after getting fucked up by extract camping and double shotty CHEATING on stella i tried to get some classic gameplay on buried...and got ganged up on by 4 thug zoomies in a solo. i holed up in that pharmacy on the east side and they were too scared to come in after i DELETED 2 of their boysthis is no country for old men
>>546855501See what items you need to build your crafting stations in your room before salvaging stuff. You can see what the item converts to before finalizing it. Some stuff you wanna save eventually for quests or crafting but don't worry too much about it now. I'd say sell any excess stuff direct for cash so you can expand your stash a couple of times.
>>546855693PLEASE NO MORE
>>546855719what did he mean by this
>>546855649>>546855650>>546855680>>546855686>>546855713just gtfo'd, thanks I'm starting to get it and yeah that chicken is pretty cool
are there any useful crafting coomponents i should hoard like headphones or industrial batteries? or should i just salvage most of it?
Free kit = 80hpGreen augment = 100hpBlue = 110Pink = 120I fixed the game you're welcome
>>546855846someone posted this pic before
>>546855846https://arctracker.io/needed-itemsthis really should be in the OP
>>546855846industrial batteries you need for a bench upgradestuff that can be directly used for crafting will say so on the tool tipkeep at least a stack of stuff like springs, wires, processors, etc - things that you need to make kit and weapon upgrades
>>546855846you will run out of space if you keep everything and early on its best to just sell as much stuff as possible to get the max stash upgradesas for what to keep you can basically trash everything and loot it back when you actually need it, people had the biggest trouble with rusted gears and mushrooms afaik so keep those everything else you find plenty when you know where to look
>>546855904a freeshield that is lower than light shields wouldn't be a bad idea and would encourage more proper runs
>>546855904I see no problem with this. t. designigga
>>546856016Shields are a shit design.The DR barely does anything when theres no way to increase your health.higher HP on better augments, means stronger shields will scale better too.Augments need hp modifiers plain and simple.
What's the best way to XP farm now? I've done basically everything there is to do except for hit level 75
>>546856189shooting ARC
>>546856189kill and loot big arc
Arc Raiders will be known as the game that saved Marathon
>>546856306Marathon is unironically garbaget. played the last playtest
>>546854847A green augment with a grey gun is infinitely superior to la free kit and costs nothing but scraps. I don't even know why free kits exist when gear is so cheap. Honestly, why not remove free kits entirely?
>>546856306Bungie devs are unironically devastated that Arc Raiders exists. They were hoping to be the studio that made the extraction shooter format official. A GOAT preceded them. I'm personally invested in the downfall of bungie. I hope those faggots get a shakeup of the century, starting at the very tip top. Whoever is running that shit has demolished 20 years of good will and customer loyalty. They deserve to be hanged for their incompetence.
>>546856442Clicking to set up that kit isnt worth the time.Insta queue with free kit no setup required.
>>546855904makes sense.
>>546856732>keep half a dozen bobcats I never use>sell all basic materials so when I need to make a new kit I have nothing
People who think that free loadouts are a problem don't understand that if they are nerfed or removed, everyone will just bring shitty gear in their custom loadout since it is extremely cheap anyway.Personally, I don't bring custom loadouts to Stella Montis, because the moment I realize that I will have to endure 10 fucking gunfights just to have a chance to extract, I don't want to waste time setting up my loadout beyond bringing a green kit with a single weapon. I know it may be just me, but I don't see any other reason why there are so many people with free loadouts on that map compared to others.This game really need more QoL with crafting and creating loadouts, also probably less player density
>>546856942This but any map, I'm not wasting time making a whole loadout just to die
do i keep the rubber duckies?
>>546855904
>>546857031If you have any sense of decorum yes
>>546857031That is the real end game, to fill every slot with a duck
>game's been out for 3 weeks>people minmaxed the shit out of everything>everyone glitching trough doors for loot rooms>everyone cheesing arc>slowly devolving into a free loadout shitshow killfestBoy who coulda predicted this
>>546856942>People who think that free loadouts are a problem don't understand that if they are nerfed or removed, everyone will just bring shitty gear in their custom loadout since it is extremely cheap anyway.Good, then they will get tired of having to recraft and reequip their cheap loadout after every death, slowly they will learn to stop yoloing people and play more carefully
>>546856942The real issue is that free loadouts are even capable of competing with real gear. Removing free loadouts wouldn't fix anything, yes. As you say, it would simply shift the problem to green augments and cheap runs, and so we can conclude that the problem is actually gear balancingIf grey and green gear wasn't so good, and blue and purple gear wasn't so bad we'd see less free loadouts organically. But as the game is right now, it just doesn't make sense to use anything but a free loadout (or a cheap grey/green loadout)And yeah, the time it takes to actually set up a real loadout is a massive issue too. The game has too much micro crafting
>watched a guy kill a bastion and then shot the back of his head and left with 100k of his loot
>>546856942How is that a problem? Even if the gear is cheap, it is something you can lose. Free kits have literally 0 risk, no incentive to not be a complete fuck fave since you have everything to gain.Just remove free kits, or put free kits in their own little kiddy pool playground with no serious loot.
>>546856189honestly if you don't want to risk doing big hullcracker runs vs ARC then just queue Stella Montis and loot every cabinet and dead player I'm averaging like 2k exp a minute
>Crossplay: Off
do evil fucks play at extremely late hours like 2-3am?
>make loadout>die from being too confident>freekit>best run of my life
>>546857741yes
wtf is this?
>queue with Surge Shield Recharger (blue) equipped>die every time without getting to use a single oneThis item is cursed
>>546858197anal probe
>>546858197big loot; make sure to loot all 3 sides that pop open
>>546857279I think that having a blue shield instead of a green is already a massive advantage over people with free loadouts. For me, right now, it's the fact that I need to fight against hordes of other players one after another. That's why I think that player density must be lowered. But yeah, devs definitely also need to make high tier guns stronger as well. It will help solving the root of the free loadout problem
>try the ...'soft exploit' of luring the blue zone queen over to the gas station where she cant really hurt you to shoot a panel or two off her legs>bring my only anvil iv for it since its supposed to only take 4-5 shots per panel>some guy tries to kos me with a ferro like five meters from spawn, but i managed to get away>entire room aggros her way up north to some building with one tiny door >zero progress for 15 minutes>go up to the room and chat for a bit>everybody's friendly but nothing's happening>run to exfil>it's already activated>'friendly friendly, is cool if i extract with you?'>no reply>duck in to the little shed nearby>dude is looking right at me>'hey boss, is it cool if i extract here?'>no reply>wait the 45 sec or so for the lift>as soon as it gets there he lights me up with a stitcher ii>never says a wordI like going in naked for the free butt pocket, especially now that I have the perk that lets and container possibly give a weapon/ammo/shield. Keeps dumb shit like this from mattering as much.
>>546857038Exactly what I said about shields. Only the shitposters think they're fine as is.
>>546858507>devs definitely also need to make high tier guns stronger as well.They need to nerf grey guns, at least when unupgraded, and buff purple ones a bit, especially the bettinaBlues are fine as is
Freekits come with exclusive freekit weapons and ammo that are worse than the rattler and hairpin.Freekits cant spawn until 18 mins into a raid. Kitted players cant spawn late.All grays nerfed to Rattler levels of damage and usability.All greens nerfed to Torro usability and damage.Venator nerfed.Pinks remain the same, bettina buffed.All shields buffed, but blue and pink buffed more.There, I fixed balance.
>>546858606>I have the perk that lets and container possibly give a weaponthere is no perk that helps with weapon spawns, there's one that helps with finding in-field crafted items and one that potentially doubles whatever 'loot' is already inside
>>546859028But how am I gonna take 70% of someone's hp out with 1 ferro shot?
>>546859220>there's one that helps with finding in-field crafted itemThat's the one. Call it coincidence and confirmation bias, but in 120 hours topside I had never found a shield in a container and very rarely weapons. Now I'm pretty reliably finding shields plural, and weapons every other dresser drawer per match it feels like.
>>546859220>one that potentially doubles whatever 'loot' is already insideIt doesnt double the loot, it makes it so theres a chance to reveal two items at once, therefore seeing what loot there is faster
>faggot snitch snitches on me to rocketeer when i try to find a good place to kill it fromFUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT CLANKER
>>546859398you can't in-field craft a weapon though.. I think you're just coming across weapons that would have already been there>>546859409that makes more sense
i just died like 100 times in a row
>>546859490It feels way more common now that I have the perk. And I had never found a shield before.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eegNm1k_S-s
>>546859028it's really that simplelet's see if embark is retarded enough to not do it
>>546841418I have a gas mask and rubber dooky. Looks pretty good with this backpack
the kettle is unironically a beast in the right circumstances. just a wave of DPS that you need to outpace or you lose>opponent didn't kill you with the first magazine of their sticher, rattler etckettled>opponent missed their first anvil shot because they're getting peppered in the facekettled>opponent attempts to escape to reload and healnot my problem. chased and kettled
>>546860305Too bad it takes a year to reload that stupid. Fucking. Air tank on top of the thing for no fucking reason.God it's the dumbest fucking design in the game.
>>546860417it gets 25% faster reload for every upgrade you put on it which is nice
>>546860289I want to have SEX with your raider, if you know what I mean
>>546860461what did he mean by this
>>546860450I might have to max one out, then. I've never seen one past II.
I'm coping right now and thinking the reason they are taking so long to fix the issues is because they are making a massive balance patch.Likely they will nerf Venator and call it a day though.
Aight what's the QRD on new trials, best map variants? Tips?>Leapers:Probably Space Port night/Electrical?>Queens/Matriarchs:Go solo or trio and try to deal as much damage as possible, queen is probably much easier.>Harvest Plants:no fucking clue, dam/buried city night time? Or maybe hidden bunker/locked gate events give you more time to scour every little bit of the map?>Open Arc Probes:this one is definitely wherever the More Probes map variant available, spaceport seems great with Probes being easy to see.>Damage Flying ARC:More snitch scanner bullshit with a map that has a lot of rocketeers during hidden bunker/locked gate?
>>546860737I'm on the same train, really why wouldnt you nerf the venator before MontisProb tweaking freekits, shields, augments, weapons and skills
>>546860812buried city is horrific for plants there are always 500 arc above the best spots. definitely head into the swamps in dam
>>546860305Faster time to kill than the stitcher too, not sure why so many slander the kettle
>>546841590Im gonna turn crossplay off and kill you passive panseys now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKJaBdQNYEAMonday comfy stream
Think they'll add more guns? There is already a surprisingly large amount already in the game. What else could be added?
Why didn't you guys tell me to dip into the green tree for the movement speed increase with shields and faster breaching?
>>546861398>What else could be added?MORE ARCWe NEED an indoor ARC on legs that can keep up with players and don't just get one shot by a Ferro
>you can trade in free kit augments for green augmentsHuh? What else can you trade in besides seeds
>>546861587wasp but it's a boston dynamics dog
So why are PS5 players so fucking aggro but PC players are more fifty fifty? PS5 players dont use mics or emotes either while pc players do
>>546847851I hate that this game discourages you from using your flashlight because it's a huge sign to everyone saying "HERE I AM". You should be able to blind people momentarily by flashing it in their eyes
>>546861002just bring a hullcracker or wolfpack lolers, as long as you get a huge amount of trial points (15-25k or something) it's worth the risk and investment.It's getting wild out there, I've been double promoted every week so far and there's some fucking trio on #1-#3 of my bracket all with 80k points ALREADY.
>>546861529because you will rarely wear a shield that isn't green and breaching stuff isn't worth it
>>546861640The real problem is that the flashlight doesnt do jackshit beyond 10m so it's basically never worth it
>>546847646Can someone explain to me exactly what Trials are and why I want to be doing them? I have ignored them entirely since starting
>>546861002>>546861659Buried City Galleria has all the plants you need, inside
>only the first cluster of nodes in the yellow tree with slide speed/stam improvements are worth it>only carry weight is worth it in red tree>only breach speed is worth it in green treeok, so why is everything so shit?
>>546861693>breaching stuff isn't worth itlol
>looting in Control Tower A6>some guy is skulking about>shoot him because i got too much loot/trinketsNothing personnel kid, I just can't afford to die to randos when I'm loaded with loot.
>>546861814they were very afraid that they would accidentally make skills op
>>546861762Five weekly challenges to get a certain amount of score doing different thing like killing different ARC, looting specific things etc. You get random good items and blueprints for each star you achieve. There's a also a leaderboard where you get placed with 100 random players of your rank and the best players that week will rank up and get rewards like this outfit
>>546851443Idk why everyone is giving you false information on the Matriarch. It has panels covering the front and sides of it that block off it's red core. When it does that shield thing you can enter the shield and take shots at the core directly (very dangerous) or blow off the panels that guard it with a Hullcracker and then shoot the core without waiting for it to do its shield thing.
Any trades?
>>546847646what the fuck do you mean no snitch BS? Snitch scanners are even more valuable than last week because hornets AND wasps count.
>>546862035How many medium gun parts do you want for an osprey bp?
>>546862035how many medium gun parts for snaphook?
purple key door weapon bags>ammo>attachment>renegaderandom drawer in unmarked house on blue gate>tempest blueprinti don’t get it
>>546862035I assume you mean medium parts BP
>>546861928Hmm. Sounds neat actually. Gives people a reason to keep playing week to week if it means exclusive cosmetics.
>>546862150I love it
new trials today
>>546860812I got harvest plants and arc probes the second they came out on dam night. Two probes were already opened and then I just cracked open a broken probe. For plants I got the mushrooms at the wreckage, then went up the far side of the swamp and you eventually get to those two small streams from the apartments which have a ton of plants. Sadly it doesn't work on trees with fruit. Got Queen by just doing it solo and teaming up with like 3 people on dam. Flying arc will probably be going to blue gate on electrical/night and going up far north since 2 rocketeers spawn at that radio tower building, just chuck wolfpacks at them and then spend the rest of the match farming flying shits and throwing snitch scanners.
>>546862157Yes obviously>>546862140I don't have a snaphook
>>546862404no not obviously consider both other anons are confused by your post
Best enemy in the entire game. Fighting them is a blast and they have some of the coolest animations I have ever seen for a vidya enemy
>>546862505*flails around randomly and kills itself*
>check my trials leaderboard>ALREADY on day 1 need to get 20k points to get 2x promoted
>>546842383Teenagers? You mean lunchtime rowdies?
So is the game more enjoyable if you turn off crossplay on pc?
>>546862494Just because anons are retarded doesn't mean it isn't obvious. Why would anyone trade blueprints for crafting materials?
>killed Queen>done harvester>killed Matriarchnow what? do I just become a KoS fag now?
>>546862505>animationsall machine learning, none or premade animations
What's the lore why you have a safe pocketRaiders aren't into anal?
>>546862596perhaps they thought you were retarded
>>546862550They're retarded but they have determination
>>546862553How can you tell how many promotions you are going to get? Can you get demoted?
>>546862596aa bad advertisement is a bad advertisement
>>546862662>imblyin this is a bad thing It looks 10x better in motion than any jeet programmer could have ever accomplished. AI won
>go townhall with my own key>close spawn at 30mins>looting3 + door blocker + jolt mine and zipline + hatch key>5 lootable canisters inside>nothing of value, all blue shiti didnt even use the hatch
I like that when you die there is no theatrics. It just cuts straight to black and pops up with some message. All over in a moment raider.
>>546862784that's not what I meant, you're saying animations like they 'made it' walk or act that way. its not an animation if its machine learning, animation implies someone sat down and did it
>>546862873YOU create the theatrics by making dying sounds in the mic
>>546862718the leaderboard is sectioned off take a look at it
they should add high loot areas you have to parkour to
sometimes the intrusive thoughts win
Crossplay off makes servers much less populated
>>546854348>picrelMy fucking sides
>>546855187>What are you talking about? The weapons and armor are working perfectly as intended. You’re a grunt in this game, not a super soldier. That’s the experience we’re trying to sell to the players.
I JUST NEED ONE MORE FUCKING OLIVE
>>546860305kettle been S tier since TT2 and currently slept on by everyone because muh venator
I just killed 3 people at testing annex, all 3 had just junk on themWhy do people pvp in this game again?
>>546861398grey double barreled shotgun
>>546854348>wow you're so good at game-guy who got outskilled
>>546862150>tempest blueprintso it really does exist or are you bullshitting?
>>546863520this... might actually be true. ive been trying it for the last hour and it's been so quiet.
>>546863520>>546864635a majority of people still play videogames on consoles
>>546863520the game doesn't just waste server space because you don't want to play with different platforms
>>546862150>>tempest blueprintProof nowShow us your BP collection
>>546846693I think the designer based it off the calico without knowing it was the original magazine. It has the same silhouette and even has the front triangle gap
>times revived a teammate>0I've revived teammates at least 3 times.Same with strangers, yet it says 0.
>>546862035Would you trade anvil BP for a snaphook?
>see guy shooting arcs>help him out>he starts shooting at meYOU IDIOT
>>546866561Youre the idiot it seems
>>546862150I got two wolfpack BPs from two containers in the same random house on blue gate the other day. It was wild.
This game is raping my CPU while barely using my GPU, is there any way to balance this out?
installing the game now, what should I be doing? The only extraction game I played before was hunt
I think I identified another reason for my fatigue:I already identified the unbalanced PvP vs PvE factor. How if you want to take down bosses, you have to risk very expensive, hard to replace gear, but if you want to kill people you can take the cheapest shit possible, and can come out net neutral even if you die. So with each death a PvEer loses a huge chunk of his net worth, with each death a PvPer loses nothing.Part of what makes this extra annoying is the blueprint nerf. Getting a blueprint virtually every other run (not a few players had screenshots of them extracting 2, 3 blueprints at once!), meant that even if you died somewhat frequently to people taking your shit, you still made it out with a goodie. Yeah you died, but you stuffed the blueprint to that one attachement or the venator in your ass and you're resonably happy. Literally "you win some, you lose some".Now though, with blueprints rarer than a blowy off a nun, You're just feeding loadouts to freekits, and what's your reward? On the horizon looms the "reset all your blueprints for 5 stinky skill points" threat. If you want to do the PvE part of this PvE-PvP game, what the fuck do you actually get any more? Nothing. The reward for doing PvE has been reduced to nothing, the reward for doing PvP has been maximized.
>>546866769play solo if you have no friends, stack some loot, make your workshop benches
To the anon who just killed me in Spaceport:It was a good duel. You won fair and square, and I'm not mad.
>>546866769see >>546855927also picrel put 1 point into the first mobility skill then get 5/5 on both of the left side first. Then look up skill tree stuff on yt and find out what best suits you
>>546866831Not to mention that with the amount of blueprints in the game, the nerf hits even way harder. Because now you get a BP every blue moon, if you're lucky, but because there are so many blueprints, and you always need specific ones, and there's no duplicate protection it's gonna be the most annoying shit in the world.You think you were annoyed before when you looted 2 bettina blueprints you already had in one round? How would you feel if you reset your account to no blue prints, play 20 hours, get a bettina bp, play another 30 hours, get a bettina bp, and then play another 25 hours to get your third bettina blueprint? Or maybe the game is merciful and gives you a glow light. Why would you play this game? Why would you waste so much time and then reset your account if you get fucking nothing? might as well become the joker and join the fags just extraction camping. It'll be easier on your inventory, that's for sure. And it'll be easy too. Hide in the bushes, wait for the loud ass elevator noise. Go for the kill.
game needs more variety to environmental effects and they need more severity, I want monsoons and dust storms that make it fucking impossible to see, except for the arc who have thermals of course
can anyone trade me an anvil blueprint?
>>546866769check out the stuff you need to level up your benches and go looking for it. save all your money to upgrade stash size as it gets full FAST. otherwise just do whatever you like, quest rewards are pretty meh outside of the cosmetics so don't feel compelled to rush them
>>546866663maybe increase graphical settings that put more of a load on the GPUbut it's kind of just a CPU heavy game
>>546867556bro they're going for like $200
>>546867825no way
I see no point in going for a reset to be honest.They should instead start bifurcating PvP and PvE players into different game modes and leave the current maps mixed PvPvE.Add a 3-player battle royale queue where a bunch of teams fight to be the solo survivor, I think that could be a lot of fun because the shooting/teamplay potential is very good in this good.
>>546868052no, that would make the "pvpve" gamemode strictly pvp, because why would anyone looking for pve queue for it?
>>546868152To get gear for PvP.
i died with a tempest blueprint
>>546868216>people only interested in pve would queue for the pvp mode to get gear for... pvp?
is hullcracker good if I don't plan on pvpingor will people go>that looks cool>I want it
>>546868249Why wasn't it in your pocket, HMM? Were you freeniggering, sir?
>>546868287it's cool
>>546868381
>>546868249your safe pocket? were you finally punished for picking freebies all the time?
How bad are the gamer dads that they unironically want this game to be PvE? I don't mean bad in PvP, I mean bad against the Arc. Because if you aren't bad against Arc, you realize this game has no PvE besides Queen and Matriarch, which basically require people to help you.
>holding up in a room with a single entrance>you know a hostile player will be breaching the room in twenty seconds, intending to rape your assWhat mine do you place at the door to gain an advantage?
>>546868546Always jolt mine. 4 seconds of stun means whoever it is is dead.
>>546868539they're the ones getting downed by pops and wasps and laughing about how CRAZY this game is. To them a matriarch kill is actually unimaginable
>>546868546>you know a hostile player will be breaching the room in twenty secondsI wait 10 seconds then place a deadline
I like to throw random flares around the map during night raids just to confuse players
>>546843345ebtkitter detected
>>546868717I mean even if a PvE mode did exist, they would eventually get better and then the game would die after a week as no one is challenged or even have a reason to play, right?
>>546868825>responding to 7 hour old bait
>>546868249>I died with someone else's blueprintpost hand
>>546868249time to stop being a freetard
>>546868861Yeah, some of us sleep. Try it newfag. I'll enjoy the whole thread anyways.
>know of like 3 security lockers on stella that are all within 100 feet of each other and no one ever opens them before me even if i get there at 5 minutes leftInteresting, waiting for the epic youtube drop that turns them into pvp hellzones.
>mfw I'm at the top of my trial rankingIt's cool here at the top.
>>546868859yeah that's my thinking as well, there is no arc in this game dynamically challenging enough to keep it going long term. The only way I can see it somewhat working is making the number of arc overwhelming to the point that it becomes a horde shooter where being out in the open is basically a death sentence.
>>546868283What's the end game of PvE, why are people doing PvE, what's the payout at the end?It should give you gear, skins, rare guns and so on, but it also just be fun on its own because you get to teammate with others and do a challenge.
>>546869134>3 security lockersI'll be sure to check it out when I need to farm shotgun shells and light ammo
>>546868859Game is already going to die at its current rate. The lack of an across-the-board reset is gonna make a lot of players at the top just stock gear with no reason to do anything other than pvp. Expedition has to be one of the dumbest ideas for an extraction shooter that I've ever heard of, nobody in their right mind is going to do that shit considering how annoying BPs are to get.The game mode we have now will eventually become pure pvp. A pve mode wont save it and is a retarded idea, but it won't hurt the inevitable trajectory, in fact it might even put it on a brief life support thanks to retards. At least we all got to experience a pretty interesting social experiment, a game that was certainly worth $40, but at the end of the day it's a FOTM and that's all it'll ever be.
>>546869137>several days pass>trio-chuds take over and send you to the no-advancement tier, because you were dumb enough to do a trial on day 1 and get put in with the sweatsbaka
>>546869438This is why Marathon will win the end, it's geared towards 3v3 hero shooter pvp and has a lot of background plot to go through with missions, gear isn't that important iirc.I can see it doing well despite the huge amount of Bungie hate.Anyway, I'm thankful we get to play both AR and Marathon they are both amazingly fun games. So what if it only lasts like 200 hours before you get bored? I got bored of Eldanz Rangz before 100 hours and paid a lot more for that game, it's fine games don't have to go on forever and live service games always end up ruined (see Apex Legends).
>>546869438I sadly have to agree, I already see the event horizon 3 weeks in
squad fill only lobbies when
>>546869269They drop venator/torrente/osprey/renegade enough to make it worth it. Salvage the Osprey for 2 medium gun parts, keep the others. I have like 10 venator4s, 5 renegade4s, and 3 torrente4s.
>>546870042>solo
>>546870256moron
>>546859398You are noticing the matchmaking algo sort you for pvp. The game thinks you enjoy PKing. That's why you are dropping in to maps late finding PK shit (shields/EBT weapons) in drawers. Those drawers were already looted by PKers with no inventory space. Related observation: PKers are fucking broke. E most expensive thing on their person is their senator, and whatever they stole from people who actually play the game, which is never good, because the good loot is in the good player's safe pocket, and IF the PKer has a safe pocket, that's even more lame loot from killing a PKer.
>>546870310no one cares about your random teammates, solo solves this
>>546868287>if I don't plan on pvpingThen anything is a "good" idea
>>546864972Not in this one. When Steam was nearing 500k the devs posted their total concurrent was 700k. So PS5 and Xbox (and Epic lol) combined make up roughly 200k players. Maybe PC players simply don't run and gun as much.
Is the tempest blueprint rare ? Rarer than other blueprints ?
>>546870682Rarer than mostLess rare than bobcat/vulcano
feels good man
>dam>trinket ru->19 minutes
>want to kos>someone sneaks behind me>"hey dude whats up?"god damnit
>>546869202>what's the payout at the end?fighting Queen is way more fun than any pvp gayfaggot action I had in this game
the pvp in this game is the same as pvp in the older souls titles i.e. its fun when you're doing an honorable winner take all duel, but in 99% of scenarios you're just getting shot in the back by a guy who you had 0 fucking awareness of
>>546870762Thank you!
>>546841310i see how the arms race of osoteric tech wizardry can be seen as harmful, but i think its what makes games fun. Some stuff should get patched out or reworked, but I think its cool for the playerbase to invent and perfect the gameplay they're given. For how it'll effect the game longterm I hold faith that the developers have a specefic vision for the game and they'll maintain it with further updates. I fear if their too early to respond to speculation on how pvp will affect the game in the long run, they may ruin what they have going on rn. I hate the fucking blowing up of pvp and kos being some sort of controversy, the games own tutorial starts with you getting nigged by a team that prays on a solo caught with his tool in a door. Being constantly cautious of being hunted by your fellow man is part of the vision and what makes the experience special.
>>546871036That's me.
>>546870762I got this rapid because I'm always topping up my fill squad with bandages
>>546871248>osoteric >their instead of they'reonly proof reading after posting is truly the worst of both worlds
Anvil should be 4 shots
>press play>18 mins left in the gameActual fucking cancer and the worst part of the game. 5 mins should be the absolute latest for late spawns
>>546871248While I also get homo enraged when I get oneclipped by a dude sitting in a corner when I'm solo I have the brain cores and threads to understand that the FEAR is what is the core of this game, fear of the AI overwhelming you and the fear of the even more intelligent opponent, the fellow man...
How bad is the FOMO in this game?
is it possible to kill rocketeer without just hiding in a house like a bitch?
>>546872129Throw 2 wolfpacks or 1 wolfpack and 1-2 shots of hullcracker.
pekora is live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07LSuHZdJFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07LSuHZdJFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07LSuHZdJFg
>>546871368Proofread is one word, idiot nigger
How much stronger are the Queen weapons than the hullcracker? I only got the Jupiter one, but is it worth the 600 coins per shot when you can just craft hullcracker ammo?
>>546871707>even more intelligent debatable. if the entire game was just rats, the game would not sell, and you would not call robots that hide in the corner waiting to peek you "intelligent." The possibility of non nogged interactions is what makes this game interesting.
>>546872295She's so naughty!
>>546871776Fomo of what? All the skins are ugly, gear in your stash doesn't matter at the end of the day. You're just progressing through quests and making some frens along the way.
>>546871352>fill squadhow can you trust randos to have your back in trios?
Is the easiest way to find blueprints stick to night raids and storms while leveling up the scavenging / red skills?
>>546872392you can craftg energy clips too if you have any blueprint. 1 point of clip also reloads the entire weapons so each stack is 5 reloads
>solo raid on pc to spaceport>meet a guy>super nice>shows me how you can farm arc ez from those breach security rooms>have a good time killing arc with him>great rapport>go out to loot leaper we killed together>he bends over to loot>I mag dump my stitcher 4 into his skull>"Dude no! Why?""It is what it is">kill him and check his body>no good lootAll for the love of the game.
>>546854983have you considered not poopsocking everyday for 2 weeks?
Do (((they))) monitor the voice chat? Can I safely use the infamous 6 letter word?PC player.
>>546872392do the harvester event and you can loot energy clips from inside it.
>>546872129No, killing a rocketeer requires at least a small amount of hiding inside of a house like a bitch.A single wolfpack damages it heavily, but using a second wolfpack might be a waste. Better to just take five or six potshots at it, depending on the caliber of your weapon, and be done with it.
What map is the friendliest in your opinion? Dam Battlegrounds?
>>546858507>>546858801they just need to nerf player damage to eachother while keepin arc damage the sameand increase player hp a bit morethe ttk is too low/fast for this type of game.
>>546873734Hopefully not, I called someone a nigger hard-r like two days ago after I said to not shoot to his face and he pulled out a shotty and killed me.>>546874149Dam > Spacesport > Blue Gate > Buried City > Stella Montis
>>546874365Buried City freaks me out
>>546874365>Dam > Spacesport > Blue Gate > Buried City > Stella Montisreverse it and you are correct
>>546841418Love the shitting bucket and the banana, the actual backpacks not so much. Green Hiker with stickers looks the best and it's free.
>>546862873thats how death is going to be in real life without the quote at the endits scary
>a guy just ran up to me and gave me a copy of lance's mix tapethanks for the 10k I guess
>looting in buried city house>hear "friendly friendly" voice chat behind me>turn around, peeks me with a shotty and blasts right away before I could answerTakes a real fucking piece of shit to do this type of backstabbing.
>>546874674When you die for real you see a black screen with the quote "Well THAT just happened."
>>546868249
Why can I stuff a land mine up my ass, but not a weapon?
>level 20>only ever encountered 2 pvp fights>both no-mic, no-comm wheel faggots that just shoot on sight>killed both despite having them drop on mejust shameful nigger behaviour
>>546841418I liked the "remove before flight" tag so I got that one. I don't see myself caring all that much about any other ones.
What is even the point in KOSing someone within the first minute of a game? They literally haven't looted a single thing yet
>>546874738I'M FRIENDLY is too known now as "im going to fucking kill you when you aren't looking with no care as soon as i can"if someone isn't makin an effort to come up with something else to say then just shoot them.
>>546855261>This is because 90% of players after a fight are immediately trying to shove loot up their ass instead of getting safe and healing/reloading>be smart>get safe, heal, and reload after winning the fight>ok, now it's safe to get the loot>touch the container>*BLAM*>should have seen that guy watching you from outside of LOS with his third person camera.third person shooters + low TTK is a bad recipe.
>>546875070I used the archaeologist backpack during server slam so I just use that from the raider deck.
>>546875146If they actually brought a decent kit you can steal their shit.
>nearly a week without a blueprint dropping>there are people who can craft infinite deadlines right now
>>546874879Because of balancing reasons.
>>546854348>Guys they're gonna keep doing this. You can't blindly trust because they said friendly. They still had their guns out and you didn't say anything? They have guns out, you keep yours out. Never stop looking at thembased comment
>>546875410I received five different blueprints as rewards for completing three of this week's trials today.
What the fuck does the recorder do?
>>546875383>If they actually brought a decent kitLiterally nobody does this on Stella Montis, the worst offender for sub 1 minute KOS.
>MUH BLUEPRINTS MUH BLUEPRINTSfree load chads do not care
>>546857741I play solo on NA as an EU fag at late hours and noticed a distinct increase in freekit shitters etc. pvping after like 2-3 AM, which is probably when all the casuals go to bed on the east coast. You want to aim for the casual hours basically.
After playing all of the maps a great deal, the only one I feel like running for fun is Dam.Buried city is full of rats and extract campers. Blue gate has no loot topside, and the tunnels are just a "who brought more grenades" contest. Spaceport has at least 3-4 people griefing at giga range with ospreys every round. And Stella Montis is too populated.Dam on the other hand just works.
>>546875704charm raiders
>>546875750>literally nobody does thisBut you can't know for sure unless you loot their corpse.
I'm convinced the matchmaking system takes note of your earlier PvP record and puts friendly players with friendly players.I've encountered my share of assholes, sure, but not nearly to the extent some of you faggots seem to be complaining about. 66 hours in, I have only encountered one (1) extract camper.
>>546855649>actually not sure if salvaging shit in the field is good,salvaging in the field is for if you want to be extremely greedy with your looting or need to craft something. A fat stack of basic grey crafting mats is still more valuable than the average individual item. So if you're truly to to utterly maximize the value of your inventory it can be worth it to free up space by scrapping items to condense them down into raw materials. But I'm not a big proponent of this strategy because I think it's just too greedy and it makes sense to just extract once you get a decent haul.As far as crafting goes, it can be nice to know which items recycle into sensors so that you can craft a hatch key in the field. Crafting stuff down into rubber to craft shield rechargers, or cloth for bandages, can also be useful. This is mostly useful for freekitting. A custom loadout probably has enough healing to last the match and will have a hatch key up its ass. But the potential is there to craft some healing with a custom kit if you truly find yourself needing it.
>>546875815I love the Dam. It's my home, I feel like it has everything you need. I occasionally venture into the chimp maps, but dam is the coziest.
What are some cool outfits you can't get anymore, I want to know the fomo fits
just found an osprey blueprintis it any good and worth taking over my ferro for killing arc?
>>546862873Heh just like in pre-MW COD
https://www.methinks.io/thinker/direct/public/survey/kcFksNgjlBDo the survey.
>>546856942It's cheap but Jamal doesn't have the patience to rebuild a loadout when he dies. He will return to Madden's Call of BattleFIFA 202X after a few runs.
>>546876280I guess the pre-order ones
>>546872295https://youtu.be/07LSuHZdJFg?t=8845>she's already being a kos extract camping ratfaggotdamn, this game broke her...
>freekit into stella>find 8 dead bodies to loot>open 4 security breaches>get outFeels good
>>546876280Only the g suit I think. (Deluxe pre-order bonus)Everything else is still available
>>546876023Nah, that's pretty normal. If you're on NA and no crossplay PC (or even crossplay solo; it leans towards putting you in PC player games) then it's heavily skewed towards friendly encounters. Mainly because you're playing with civilized people and not console niggers and browns.
>>546876023I agree. I've gotten murdered a couple times, enough to make me paranoid, but most of my experiences have been positive. Never took the first shot on anyone. I just wana talk to other chuds and farm. I got some kinda survey prompt last night after a raid about how I enjoyed the pvp, never seen one that specific before, but I didnt engage in any so I didn't answer.
good place to find leapers? i'm finally starting to feel confident enough to kill a few for the workshop upgrade
>>546876289Not worth taking over Ferro. Not even very good for players because the distance with which you'd want to use the thing usually means the person can easily get away from you and heal up. Also since it's a first person scope, you can't peek with it and have to fully come out of cover to use it. It's salvage bait for medium gun parts imo. Sometimes it is fun to load up with an Osprey, a bunch of snitch scanners, and then get high somewhere and rain hell down upon unsuspecting people.
>>546876558>security breach has essentially just become "have a wolfpack" Fucking gay
>>546875164There's plenty of people who still say "friendly friendly" you just gotta learn the vibe checks past that. Gotta pattern match the subtle things afterwards to the max.
>>546876594I have mixed feelings about word getting out that NA is chill. Don't want chimps coming in for easy prey.
>>546876739Hey, I also got the worst purple gun in the game!
>>546876558>freenigger
>>546876835that's not the SMG
>>546876280wasn't there something from the earlier closed technical test?
>>546873532>dude almost completed his trialUntil he relaxed around a black
>>546876918bobcat is at least capable of downing a player in one mag
>>546876558>freenigger posting his scraps on 4chan with prideIt's just the dunning kruger pride that gets to me. I truly pity your kind.
>>546876717I see, thanks brother
>>546876717It's situationally useful since it doesn't have the super obvious tracer like the Ferro does
What is it about this game that has players shitting themselves over PvP when in Tarkov and Dark and Darker everyone wants to PvP? Hell, even I feel bad if I shoot someone first who had no ill intentions, but I thrived being a tricky Rogue pulling out all the tricks and map knowledge to kill people and break trios in D&D. And D&D also had prox voice, so it's not that.
>>546862150I'm convinced that the blueprint odds are just shit. The containers in the high-risk rooms might have better odds, but not enough to offset the fact that the room only contains a handful of containers. It probably makes more sense to follow one of those carebear "no PvP" runs where they just run around the map checking isolated containers before shoving any BP that they find up their ass.
>>546877718I think it's the setting. It's a apocalyptic future where there is an oppressive faction of robots trying to wipe out humanity. It implies that everyone should be working together against this common enemy, and draws on human nature of having a shared enemy.
im glad deaths aren't tracked as a statistic because I'm loading in with nothing and blowing my own head off if I don't get a good spawn near my quest
This game should do the same thing other games do with the scav thing, if you pick free loadout you load in at 15 minutes and have even worse starting gear than it gives you now, you have to really scavenge and do survival if you want to escape or do your quests.
>>546877718It's just emergent from the community, with a little bit of a helping hand from the developers, I think. The players have decided that it's acceptable to shit on players who gank.
>>546877718>>546878090This is a fairly casual game at the end of the day and I'm glad about that.Esports/competitive trannies always ruin every live service game.
>>546878090Never understood the appeal of a game tracking how many times you died and how you died.
>>546843891>it's dirt cheap to craft tooFuck you. The things I'd do for a Silencer II blueprint...
too many players on the map
>>546877718It was marketed as being pve focused
is there diveshooting in this game like in helldivers
>>546878781It was originally supposed to be pve only
>>546878781>>546878842Heh, just like Hunt: The Showdown.
>>546863941There are a few olive trees in the village, and one at the top of the hill east of Adorned Wreckage. Just don't go to the olive grove. That's ratnigger central. I swear that they don't notice the olive trees and are just shooting everyone on sight in the hopes that they merc someone who has looted olives already but hasn't shoved them up their ass.There's a row of fruit trees at the north of the village, mostly lemons, but one's an olive. There's a tree down near an area circled in this picture where there's some kind of garden area with raised planters. There's a tree that can spawn by the stream just south of town. And the one at the top of the adorned wreckage hill.
>solo night raid on buried city>run to the hospital in search of bio scanners and rusted medkits>hear some guy stomping around>contemplate calling out to him>choose to sit and rat him instead>successfully rat his ass thinking he was probably friendly all along>end up finding three bodies in there, likely his workhehe
>>546877718console players have literally never had a game like this.
>>546876806i see what you mean by learning vibe checksbut most of the time i'm announcing myself and gettin killed its because no one said anything back or even emoted and i tried to distance myself to get shot in teh backso thats when KoS just starts happening from now on
>Can't lock the City Hall door behind you once you open it?????so i just gotta pray a rat doesnt sneak past my jolt mine?
Spawns on Stella Montis are just FUCKED>spawn in>check the area out, loot a little bit>couple of minutes later>hear a guy spawn in at the exact same spot as I didWHY AREN'T THEY CHECKING FOR NEARBY PLAYERS WHEN SELECTING SPAWN POINTS?
>>546879290I guess bring a door jammer (which you will eventually have to noisily breach and remove yourself when you want to leave, alerting everyone on the whole map that you just looted the town hall, so that they can come and kill you)
Wrote all the shit I wanted fixed in the game.
i dont know where you actually farm or get blueprints and keys from at a decent rate and at this point i am too lazy to google and sift through 100 ai articles
>>546879082Very true. Extraction shooters have been impenetrable for casuals and consolefags until this moment. Arc is to extraction shooters what Halo was to console FPS. They don't know how to react to it which makes the social meta very malleable. And with its PvE history and robust PvE enemies, it's attracted a lot of the coop crowd especially with Helldivers currently undergoing its 5th death spiral.>>546879120If you say hi and get no response, anyone you see within earshot has accepted the terms of KOS.
>>546879469No you cant even close the door at allthere's also an exit on the upper floor that's only accessible from the inside, so Id be able to take my time and lootI really just want a sound queue to watch my back
>>546879528The decent rate was security breach lockers before they were nerfed.
How do you find people to play with if your real life friends don’t play and you refuse to mingle with the mentally ill trannies on disc*rd
just harvest 8k points worth of plants. there's a spot on spacesport where I'm convinced you could do 20k
>>546879604>If you say hi and get no response, anyone you see within earshot has accepted the terms of KOS.gonna start having to have sayings and rules out loud for times like thisjust going to audibly start counting down from 5 and start shooting when i reach 0 or something
>>546879528Keys are completely random and extremely rare (the good ones anyway) and the only way to drop bps consistently is to hit pink keycards rooms.I guess you could rat the extract on night raids, but everyone is going to shove any decent bps in their safe pocket so even that's a losing proposition
>>546879673Play solo. It's the best way to experience the game anyway. Going in with a party just turns the game into Fortnite.
>>546879846I’m tired of being shot in the back on sight, i want a team i can chat to and coordinate with
>>546879082I play with crossplay off and PC players seem even less happy about PvP than consolers.
>>546879290>>546879469Just bring a barricade
>>546879469you can bring two barricades for a makeshift doorblock>open door, stay outside>place a field barricade and roll/jump through it as it deploys>close door>place another barricade insidei hate this fucking door
>>546879736>>546879604>see someone within 20m>Hello fri-*GETS SHOT*I wouldn't mind if it was in a loot room or some shit, but it feels bad when it's in some random street or the middle of bumfuck nowhere. I would kill for an augment that boosts your damage resistance to high heaven when your weapons are stashed.
since people are finding the tempest bp now, how long until it replaces the venator as the "nerf now!!!!" weapon?
>>546877718because killing Queen is cool as shit, there's nothing cool to kill in Tarkov or Dark and Darker
>>546879719there's a better spot than spaceport trench
>hear someone soloing queen on dam>get RIGHT on him>within seconds a third person shows up asking to helpI was going to get that guy's kit
What's better a lvl 3 common gun, or a lvl 1 uncommon gun? And which is more expensive to craft?
>>546854847get good
>>546880471yeah i died to a boba fett out in the open. ran across him, he didn't say anything but crouch spam x3 and then i started runnin the other direction to get away he shot me in the backim just losing patience in solo. and im starting to actually kill anyone wearing specific cosmetics
>>546880547The venator is still an objectively better gun. Faster ttk, lighter, lower ammo consumption.I don't think anyone would be sad if a pink gun became the BIS most common pvp gun. Finding pink gear is more exciting, and they're a bigger material sink, and they're supposed to be the best guns anyway if rarity is any indicator.
>>546876023I have to agree at this point based on the surveys and my own anecdotes compared to so many on these threads. It's kind of insane how skewed the game can be IF that is the case because you can screw yourself over for a potentially long time if you just feel like PvP'ing a little bit. I hope it's a very short term memory sort of queue mechanic.
>>546880818stop being a nigger
>>546847851Ya know, if I was the guy with the camera watching over the extraction site... I probably wouldn't let these fuckin' people down if I saw them placing mines or shooting people in the back while they were closing the gates.Is it true that Division has something similar to this? Seems like a sensible idea.
>guy getting bullied by arc walks into my room for shelter and starts healing>he doesn't know I'm here>I walk up to him and say hello>he looks at me, finishes healing for a few secs, and then pulls his shotgun out and shoots me>win the gunfight with a dogshit rattlerTHE MOST retarded subhuman I have ever encountered. An interaction that genuinely reduced my faith in humanity
>>546881924if they don't respond by voice in 2 seconds i'm blasting
>>546876023I think the bitching is largely psychological. Trying to play friendly or abide by a code of honor is, to a lesser extent, a bit like uniformed armies fighting off against guerilla combatants. 99% of patrols might be smooth sailing but it really gets under your skin knowing that at any moment you can just be ended by an IED or suicide bomber. The options to truly keep you safe from such threats are things that you can't really due because you're bound by pesky things like rules of engagement or the Geneva convention. I don't want to make too much light of the PTSD inducing stresses that being in a real combat zone can cause, but it kind of feels like a tame parallel. 99% of runs are clean and extractions/player interactions are friendly. BUT FUCK THAT NIGGER RAT WHO ISN'T EVEN RISKING ANYTHING TO PERFORM HIS NIGGARY.
>>546880562Eh I'd say the Dark and Darker bosses are cooler. You can't cheese a boss in that game by hiding around a door and peeking every few seconds to shoot. The big arc in this game are too powerful, they should be more about mechanics that you can overcome with skill rather than just being a huge tank that shits out damage if you aren't hidden in a room. There is no point to ever fighting any big arc, but especially queen/matriarch "fairly". But in D&D you are forced into the room with the boss, you have to learn it's attack patterns and dodge attacks, learn when a good time to do damage is, fight through mechanics (whether it's summoning mobs or aoe you have to sustain through with supplies or a cleric or whatever), and defeat the boss in a cool fun way. I don't find anything fun about sitting in a bunker and shooting a hullcracker 80 times with 5 other people doing the same thing to be fun or exciting.
>>546881831There's a delicate balance between carebearland and KOS mayhem, and making the extract so deadly was definitely one of the balancing levers they decided would be useful for making sure people fight.That being said, even if I prox chat and somebody is friendly at the extract, I still gun them down anyway purely because that way I can force them to hit the extract while I keep watch without worrying that they'll rat me instead. Very effective strategy, but kills my immersion
>>546880861playing anything but lvl 4 guns is just giving yourself a handicap honestlythe anvil for example can fire all shots and reload completely on lvl 4 in the same time it would take to fire 6 shots on a lvl 1 onejust start grinding metal like everyone else and always extract with simple gun parts
>>546847851Should downed players be allowed a last stand mechanic with inferior firepower in an attempt to pay back the ones that gunned them down in the first place?
>Tutorial involves you getting nigegd in the back by a pack of freeshitters not fiveminutes in>first tools the game gives you are the door block and the fake distress flare Hot take: They knew they didn't have the ressources to make a full PvE game ( Embark literally said that), so they included freeshitters as special PvE enemies. You are even immediately given the tools needed to prevent getting ambushed like a sucker. Honestly the winding reminds me a but about the carebears who whine about getting suicide ganked in HighSec in Eve Online. Yes, if you take your blinged out Gila to a mission site, ist definitely getting ogled by a suicide ganker in a dirt cheap ship kitted for PvP even though itsd the "PvE zone", git gud, keep aligned to safe and don't get complacent like a scrub.
>>546882181pretty muchyou get so comfortable on good streaks of friendly solo'ing in dam and then you keep thinkin back at the time you turned your back on someone and got killed and thought alright, how could i have prevented this? what was different?then you try again with the learned lesson and it also happens again because this time, they passed the initial test of sayin hi and "im friendly" rigamarole, but they still shot you.so now you are not sure if its worth applying another layer of tests to that because that's already enough work as it is per person you encountered and you can only conduct it in such a timely manner before you're just shot before you finished doing it.
>>546883075>door block and fake distress flareFuck I don't remember those. Can I replay the tutorial?
>>546855927I can't read shit why is this so low rez
>>546883197spotted the phone posteropen original file idiot
>>546883197Open the image in a new tab and zoom in.
>solo>talk to some guy wandering around>he points me in the direction i need to go for a quest>thank him and leave>think "that was a nice interaction">half a second later get sniped by someone across the map in an extract as the doors closeThis game is a roller coaster of emotions
Finally got my first fucking BP in Stella and it wqs a fucking BETTINAIm gonna finish my achivement and probably not touch this shit ever again, im so sick of this rng bullshit
>>546858606always kill ppl who do not talk back or emote back.
I have never shot another player on sight, I wonder what it feels like.
BRUH Arc Raiders did not get nominated for best audio design for The Game Awards
>>546883887They didn't give the big guy his taste of the action
>>546883429The only possible way I could find the spaceport bunker in time and ingame was having the highground on another raider and asking him about it. He gives me what zones it's between and wishes me well. I throw a few arc seeker grenades on a hornet that gets on him as thanks and go on my way. Love that shit.
>>546883887Who cares about the goy awards
>>546883675probably really nice knowing that this guy i killed wont bother me in this area now honestly
So, you filled the survey and told them to nerf free kits, right anon ?
>>546884048what survey
>>546883675sameonly shoot in retaliationi suspect that theory about the matchmaking algo being k/d based is somewhat true because i never even get shot at
>>546867419don't do this. go for security Breach first
>>546867556I actually have one but I'm on ps5
I think most people are still friendly but they know the hopelessness of getting shot first so they just don't take any chances anymore and shoot everyone on sight.
>>546884031>phew I'm glad I won't be bothered anymore>he says to himself, looting the body under the flare shooting across the whole map attracting 10 new players attention
>>546867419>>546866769this anon >>546884326 is an anon who's weakened his will and is now entirely dependent on security lockers. If you build your game experience around this one thing, you'll end up missing the game. Everyone who says this is so important aren't actually playing the game, they're playing on baby mode.
>>546883675Killing on sight is noble compared to the alternativeIf you want people to be friendly then holler from a distance
>>546883169They weren't in the tutorial itself, butthe very first quest rewards.Fake flare gets ignored by everyone, but its pure magic against campers>get close to extract/known camping spot >pop fake flare>all the rats come running to 3rd party/ pilfer the carcassEven works indoors due to the flare sound. The fact that absolutely everyone seems to ignore it makes it even more powerful. Haven't gotten camped once since I started carrying a stack.
>>546884662That's why you only kill inside of buildings
>>546884084Check the news on steam you fag.
>>546884774I always holler when I enter someone's building or see them first from a distance, not always respect and I've been shot after hollering, some people are real pricks but it is what it is... it's all a gentleman's agreement and someone people aren't gentlemen.I've ran into a few snipers on Blue Gate and Spaceport, in Dam there's one particular extract that always has rats and campers waiting to shoot you in the back (you know the one right next to the tall medical building.
>>546855927It's been updated. Also holy shit the original file was 15+MB
>>546883075Free kits are still too good. Unless you get unlucky with a rattler, you can just beeline to any hotspot and fuck over a full kit without much of a problem because low tier weapons are so potent, and medium/heavy shields are almost worthless.
>>546885389how should I knowthey usually do surveys on their embark hub website and there was nothing therehttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1808500/view/590661232047948928?l=englishsteam link for everyone else
>call evac>4 rats all appear out of the woodworks to sneak injust call it you little shits
>>546884084-> >>546876353
>>546885674>how should I knowBy looking at the news for the games you own on steam, duh
>>546885558Have you tried entering a known occupied building quiety and point your gun at someone you catch looting, demanding they freeze and put their hands up?
>>546885673Well, I'm coming from a game where a dirt cheap noob fit can easily blow up a several billion ISK PvE specialized fit, so I don't mind at all.Its not like Arc is the first game to have a concept like this. If you drop your guard and think that your gear makes you safe, its on you. The game would become boring as fuck if you could nullify every PvP threat by just carrying pink gear, and the devs know it.
>>546876353Unplayableee
>>546885985>dirt cheap noob fitYeah, so not free ? Also Eve Online is a game for schizos. I know because i used it play it too.I don't say that noob kits should be absolutely worthless. But they should not feel like they can run around and just shit on whoever they meet. Its a kit to scavenge AND perhaps shit on a geared dude who's already softened. Not just take on people head on and instantly repeat because you literally just have to press ONE button to get back to it.Meanwhile a geared has to redo his fucking kit every fucking time.
>>546884523I think the game has detected your murderous ways and put you in the KoS lobbies because even my Stella Montis games are peaceful.
>>546885853Unironically this isn't a bad strategy. Sometimes even I've got the drop on someone and will just wait for them to notice me. People with good intentions usually won't shoot
>>546873734I've called multiple people nigger and nothing's happened, but I saw a "banned for 24 hours for misconduct" a few threads ago that some anon got so I assume they only check if someone reports you or something.
>>546885985>Well, I'm coming from a game where a dirt cheap noob fit can easily blow up a several billion ISK PvE specialized fit,Dirt cheap as in not freeAnd a PvE specialist doesnt really exist in arc, yeah a guy with a hullcracker would be free food for anybody, but everyone carry a PvP weapon and will still get trashed by a free kit who get the jump on them
Is there a -nointro command to skip the intro?
Man the definition of rats in this game is really throwing me off from what I usually think of from other games. Not that rats can't be psychotic but I always assume a rat is more a skulker and looter than being overly bloodthirsty.
>>546886863The rats in this game are rabid because they have nothing to lose and can respawn instantly.
>Buried City>like 15 mins left>spot a damaged Leaper>need 2 cores still, and there's a trial as well>throw the blaze nade I've been carrying around for 5 raids now at it>finish it off with my Anvil>take all the shit and use a raider hatch to peace itI fucking love raider hatches.
>>546873734>>546874365>>546886573They added automatic AI voice moderation to The Finals a few days ago. Guarantee this will make it's way to ARC Raiders in the future.
>>546886948In my experience like 80% of raids I don't have issues extracting normally, but the value of the hatch key is still just too high to pass up
>>546886946They've gotten too greedy in this new world
>>546878561holy fuck I just looted the silencer II blueprint on buried city, loot is so much better when all the wagies are at work
>>546886948being able to craft them in game is awesomei helped defibbed some guy who got downed by arc trying to get an elevator before it closed for goodwe had a few minutes left to cross the whole map and get to the last elevator while everyone else was probably trying to do the same so i asked if he had 1 sensor so i could make a key and get us the fuck outta there and he didand we all lived happily ever after
Saving up all my seed to put into Celestes box
despite all my dickery and faggotry i have not gotten any hatemail on steam >:(
>>546887442Extracting out of Buried City gives me anxiety for some reason, maybe because the metro is easier to get shot at compared to elevators and especially airshafts. I could craft 19 raider keys right now.
>>546876353lollmao
>>546886331That wasn't the point, the point if if you take out a bunch of expensive gear to PvE you should do so because you want to achieve a specific purpose with it, and use the countless tools the game gives you to protect yourself from getting ambushed. >Meanwhile a geared has to redo his fucking kit every fucking time.Yeahm they should really implement the ability to save fits and just recraft it all with a single click , I only take out stuff I can either make myself or have stacks of, but having to go through all the crafting and upgrading menus again is annoying. And we all now its not a matter of cost, the difference between a free kit and a simply grey gun kits is like three mouse clicks. You can build that entirely from a barely upgraded Scrappy.
>>546887916Do not craft 19 keys just make each key as you use them.
>>546887915Do people even know the names of their killers? Shit's too ephemeral.
>>546888014Ikr
>>546888060You can see it on the round report screen, it will show if they're on Steam or not. You can then click their steam profile from in-game. If they're a consolefag they won't have a steam profile of course.
>>546888238Oh okay, I honestly never paid attention
>>546888526They do get your name and steam profile link on death, you just haven't angered the an aspie yet
I've been out of town the past few days. How is the map/update and did tarkov steam release effect this game at all?
>>546889091>did tarkov steam release effect this game at all?Yeah, we got more players.
>>546889091Tarkov is midThe new map is kinda shit to play right now because of weapon balance and infinite player spawns, but it's loaded with loot and might be fun in the future
>>546843627I did the harvester only with "free but created myself for the ass pocket" loadouts, you literally don't need anything except for the pick for the harvester. >>546847851Groidgaming
>one rat tries to jump another rat>his ferro couldn't save him
>>546876353Did it. Wrote about the risk/reward balance being off for free kits and requested nerfs of level 1 grayguns. Proposed that freekits get a cooldown timer, nerfed guns, and that they spawn without a shield
>>546889816
>>546889465The rattler reload has grown on meObviously the base mag size is too small, but being able to quickly load 2-4 bullets to finish off low health enemies is pretty nice
>>546842849i play with crossplay on, and im exclusively killed by ps5 players.i just want to loot and have wholesome conversations
>>546886352Nah I truly believe the game is random. I've had days where I blow through 20 good weapons because I'm just getting stalked and kos'd on repeat. Then I have a day like yesterday where I ran Stella 10 times and teamed up with 2-3 people every time and not a single person was shot. I think it depends on time of day mostly. I work overnights, so I play mostly late at night on my days off since i'm awake during that time and in the mornings leading up to around noon on my work days and they seem to differ a lot. 3am night raids are basically nothing but silent sweats. 12pm night raids I tend to still find friendlies, especially on weekends as well since more dad gamers are logged in.
>>546876353I left a pretty hefty "What I don't like about this game" essay at the end about general balancing and things I think they need to improve upon before this game just completely devolves into free/greyshitters endlessly blasting each other on sight while Arc becomes a completely ignored gimmick that loses interest faster than the Ouya.I also told them that adding a "PvE-only" mode would be a giant cope and a clear statement that they would have given up.
>>546887915Stop being a nigger.
>>546886863These are the rabid black plague rats. They infect every innocent with a plague that turns them into a rabid rat after being killed enough.>>546887442
Is there a way to get yourself unstuck from the geometry or am I just going to have to knock myself out?
>>546890378If you wait long enough the game does give you an UNSTUCK prompt
>>546887442I find buried city has the worst extracts and I almost never play night on it. It's so easy to extract camp on this map and the sight you have when using the terminal is awful and prone to getting shot off of it. Hatch keys are a must there tbqh
>>546887442I almost exclusively play on night raids or other special modifiers so I've got like 20 keys piling up. I don't even bother bringing them on day raids because I literally never die.
yo that was easy as shit
>>546889816based
How are you guys getting so many hatch keys?
>>546891080wait no this fucking sucks6/74 blueprints and i got 2 duplicates from this
>>546891223Make them? Its in the workbenches
>>546891223They're craftable
>>546891243Lmao
Hmmmm a russnigger trio who just knows where I am despite being impossible to know. Makes me thunk.
>freeniggering in night buried city and sneaking up on kitted up people and stealing their shitthanks nerds
>>546891278>>546891289Ah ok I thought you were finding them somewhere. I still need to upgrade my benches.
>>546891223Buy 1 for only 9,000 from the fez wearing bitchCraft them for pretty much free.I always keep a hatch key in my ass on every daytime raid
>>546872129I would NOT recommend it. I threw a Wolfpack and barely got the 5 or so ferro shots off. I ran around a bunch of trees and did not have the stamina to run and dodge. If you do want to do this you need to have adrenaline used before the fight starts.I barely lived.
Where can I (solo) kill a leaper without getting ratfucked by half the raid lobby? >trying to fight the one by the Water Treatment Center on Dam automatically attracts every rat in the game like flies to shit
Any more cute fan arcs?
>>546859028I actually like spawning late as a geared player because it lets me wait less until i can safely hunt the big guys.
>>546892134You can't. The second it gets low on health, the whole server knows it thanks to that gigantic fuckyou sized fire that can be seen from the opposite end of the map.
>>546892280I'm still here.
What the fuck is with all the kosniggers?
i think the rocketeer's ai is getting smarter>crouch walking around near a rocketeer>it becomes warned>looks directly at me, completely still in some bushes>aggros on me even though I'm in a bush, not moving at all>throw a lure nade away to draw its fire>it shoots three rockets at the lure nade, does a 180 and flies right back to me>throw another lure nade off a cliff>it kills that too, flies back to me>throw third and final lure nade the opposite direction of the elevator>it destroys that lure nade and shoots at me>dodgeroll into the elevator, hit extract with 15 seconds remaining in the round
>>546892368if ticks actually looked like that I'd let them ride me anytime
>>546880547Its never gonna become BIS in the current weapon balance.
>>546892134There is an underground spawn point, close to the raider hatch on the dam. Sometimes, a leaper spawns there on the water. If it does not, there is a leaper walking on the balcony, which you can bait down by taking potshots at it. After baiting a leper,retreat into the bunker, and take ferro potshots at it, until it dies.
>hanging around top floor of testing facility>hear elevator go off>the bloodlust takes over>see dude run into side building hiding from wasps>set up some trigger nade traps while he's unaware>pop them as he breaks for it and he gets winged>gets zapped by a wasp while I pepper him>he dies in the elevator>elevator closes because the timer ran out so I couldn't loot himAh well. I also downed another dude in the same elevator earlier by chucking shrapnel nades inside of it but he was able to escape.
>>546892368Can I get uhhhhhh gyaru Fireball with a deep tan on the outside but pale on the inside? I guess that concept applies to any arc armor but eh fire.
>>546885671it looks identical to the previous one
>>546892414Let's get one thing straight for all the new players loading in.This isn't your cozy co-op wave shooter. That game got canceled. Arc Raiders is an extraction shooter. The goal isn't to hold hands and kill bots; the goal is to get RICH and get out.And what's the fastest way to get rich?You think I'm gonna spend 20 minutes clearing a bunker for some attachments and a backpack? You think I'm gonna waste my ammo on AI?NO.I'm gonna let YOU do it.I see all you carebears running around, crouch-walking, scared of every noise, meticulously looting every box. You're just walking loot chests. You're my personal loot goblins, doing all the boring work for me so I can get back to the action.Stop crying in the forums about "getting ganked." This is X-Isle. The AI is just a distraction. The real loot, the best loot, the juiciest Ark, is in the backpack of the guy who just spent 15 minutes fighting a robot enclave.You're not "playing PvE." You're just farming gear for the real Raiders.So here's my motivation for REAL raiders: Stop wasting time on bots. The second you hear gunfire, you run towards it. Let them fight the AI, let them get weak, let them use their supplies. Then you go in, wipe them, and take everything. That's the game.To everyone else: thanks for holding my gear for me. I'll be by to pick it up shortly.Get good or get farmed.
>>546892580>After baiting a leper,retreat into the bunker, and take ferro potshots at it, until it dies.Really dumb idea if the point is to avoid getting third partied. You want grenades and preferably wolfpacks.
>>546892872>So here's my motivation for REAL raiders: Stop wasting time on bots. The second you hear gunfire, you run towards it. Let them fight the AI, let them get weak, let them use their supplies. Then you go in, wipe them, and take everything. That's the game.literally just did this to some dude trying to solo a bastion in night buried city kek
>>546893024>>546892872It's a good thing all of the Kos faggots get paired up with each other more often.
Wake up cuties, Pop and Wasp just dropped
what is it about this game that makes people absolutely appalled that there's pvp in this gamethis must be studied
>The elusive Ombra moves like a coyote through the Rust Belt's wilderness. A lone wolf with a hidden identity, if you ever see the glimpse of their face, you'll know the end is near.The guy who wrote the blurb and the guy who made the outfit clearly were not on the same page considering every single variation has bright as fuck colors
>>546893170post rocketeer-chan if it existsshe keeps ruining my runs
>>546893170I want to cuddle.
>>546889816>putting any type of timer on gameplayretard, do you want a mobile game?
>used to run around everywhere like a retard and get rat'd by random faggots waiting for me>now basically play MGS and sneak my way into buildings like i have one lifeIts honestly a fun way to play
do i sell, expedition or recycle this shit? i have no blueprints and all my benches at lv3
>>546893312Maybe it's overconfidence, like painting a false thumbtip fluorescent orange and still managing to pull off sleight of hand.
>>546893619If the timer is 10 min you would never notice it unless you suicide rush pvp.
>>546893374I think this is Rocketeer, it doesn't say but it kinda looks like it with all the jagged lines.>>546893516Same, anon.
So what's this "Unique edge" my raider gets from doing the grindfest expedition
>>546893756>put 10 min timer starting once you get into the matchIt would actually punish suicide rats
>>546893170deliciously flat and wide hipped wasp
>>546893756>spawn in>take 10 steps>killed by a ratnigger hidden in a bush randomlyyeah I surely won't notice
>>546893889Your flare turns green.
>>546893858The aesthetic of black armor and white skin is peak.
>>546892643>>546893696
>>546893289Most PvP is fine, yes even extract camping is totally fine, except for rat fucking campers in dark buildings who spend the whole game waiting for an innocent raider to pass through.Those """people""" should be waterboarded.
>>546893680It is.I've not benefited at all from doing it, but I still do it because it makes it feel more tense.Actually strike that, I'm pretty sure I've AT LEAST benefited from doing it in Stellar Mortis during the blackout version of the map. That shit is kind of scary.
>>546893917More wasp
>>546886186i dont follow streamer/content creator get ups or cosmetics so this doesn't help
>tactical augment has the lowest general carry weight of all the augment typesIs having more quick use slots that good?
>>546893312That's a KoS
>>546893858Bastion with the big flared shoulders and the yellow knees.Would ride and slap my deadline right on her face
>>546893680yeah being sneaky as fuck and crouch walking with the quiet talents in buildings is funbring a hairpin iv too for good measure
>>546893991thanks, it doesnt mention anything about project priority vs selling but still it helps a ton i guess
>>546892914If you are okay with using wolfpacks, then I don't get the question. Throw two wolfpacks at any leaper after baiting it to any spot you prefer looting it at, preferably at the end of a match near a raider hatch. I interpreted his question as "how do I kill it with minimum effort.
Why does the goddamn practice range have to be unlocked
>>546894142WEW
>>546894346That's just an achievement?
>>546894243Oh, this is Bastion. My personal enemy after the Rocketeer.Guess this one >>546893858 is Bastion when wrecked.
>>546894420It's also an indication that most players have never visited the place. You'd think the percentage would be a lot higher.
>mfw torrente with kinetic converter
>smaller arcs are pettan while bigger arcs are boin boinAlways love seeing that.
>>546894709what
>>546893991>saying to sell/recycle ropeimmediately can tell this list doesn't know what its talking about
>>546894346Wait really? I thought that was just the tutorial you play at the start of the game so I never went there.
>>546889465fuckin fromsoft was onto something with patches and his look
What did you write in the survey guys?I wrote this:>Gear progression in PvP is almost nonexistent because the weapons are extremely flat in terms of performance, there is almost no reason to run the "good stuff" when people with lower-tier gear (and especially a massive amount of free loadouts that join mid-match) have only marginally less advantage than you do in very expensive gear outside of 2 extremes meeting (i.e: a rattler free loadout VS a heavy shield user with tons of utility). Grey/green gear is too strong and purple gear seems too weak for the investment.>Second issue is the massive advantage of ambushes/ratting/shooting first that the TPP enables, which is further exacerbated by the excessive efficiency of low-quality gear. I think that exclusively PvP time-to-kill should he higher to offset the TPP advantages as well as promoting more up-front firefights and more engagement/tactics even when you are surprised/ambushed (which should still provide an advantage but not as big as it is now). The higher TTK should also allow for more tuning space to spread weaponry of different rarity and archetypes to make them less "samey" in terms of performance.>A third minor point of concern is that the availability of the new Deadline mine makes the big ARC too easy to deal with. It absolutely should not be purchasable from the shops and should be very expensive to make (to be in line with wolfpack crafting cost increases). Oneshotting enemies that have amazing weakpoints and progressive dismembering is entirely defeating their design.
>>546894460The queen with ara ara vibes
>>546894958I said the same about gear balancing, rarer gear is worthless while common gear is too good
>>546894709>Big dumb bombardier with her two mesugakis circling around pointing at you
>>546894958more or less the same, also talked about expeditions and how the lack of a real end game or reset will devolve the game into any other extraction shooter
>>546894805Flat and Big Tits, respectively.
>>546895110HUMMINA HUMMINA
>>546895110lazy design
How long does it take to get to 75?
>>546889465I see three rats
>>546895110She cute
>>546894958Augments need to be lootable in the world or the blueprints need to be was less rareI'm done everything but hitting 75 and I don't have any purple gun blueprints but the hullbreaker and bettina but who cares because I have and had a handful of them from lootingI have not seen a mk3 combat augment with my own eyes once.
>>546895824Hullcracker isn't a BP though? I don't remember ever looting a BP for it but I can make them. Same goes for the Arpeggio.
>>546894958>Balance changes need to be made because there are so many interesting gadgets to use and a fun little selection of guns but they're all USELESS since the meta is to just shoot the other player first. Whoever shoots first wins 99% of the time, which feels awful when that is the deciding factor in combat, and not the resources you've brought.>If my gear doesn't make me NOTICABLY better/harder-to-eliminate, why bother? The people currently enjoying this game the most are freekit rats who sell everything, don't talk to other players, and hide in corners to get unlosable positions, and if they do lose the gunfight they don't lose anything in the long term, and they don't care! They just want combat to make people feel worse than other games.>Either make it so gear matters, or this game has no reason to keep going.>Oh also, expedition rewards are not enticing enough to actually do it.
>>546895993you get it from a quest
>>546895993its a blueprint reward from a quest
>>546895993It comes from quests, that's what I was saying. The only purple guns I can craft where I am now is the buggtina and the quest bp hullcracker.I don't have the bp for the other purple guns but I can find them to play with themYou can't find augments anywhere, every mk3 augment you see came from a quest, a raider deck or a blueprint and that's fucking stupid.
is security breach still a must have after nerf
>>546893680i used to be very careless until i got killed because i announced myself to someone and they 180 fuckin ferro'd me and finished me off with a stitcher 3like he just didn't know i was there until i was in a doorframe tellin him my name now i learned a lesson. just stay hidden and see what they do when i say something
>>546896514nah it got nerfed hard
>>546896514Yes, there are amazing perks right before it and it lets you get tons of simple/light/medium/heavy/complex gun parts, grenades, lvl1-3 grey/green/blue/(rarely now) pink guns, and some free mats for crafting. I've never once had to craft advanced mechanical parts or gun upgrade kits because of it
Is it ratty to see two people, pretend to be friends with them and then among us rat them 1 by 1 pretending the other betrayed you first because they're an emote only pleb who can't argue their point effectively.
>>546896514Yes. It went from being MUST HAVE EPIC GUNS EVERY SINGLE TIME OP LOOT GUIDE (Gone right?!) to just being really good. Anyone saying it is useless now is just retarded.
>>546896514No and its a major crutch that so many people including those in this thread depend on it.You don't need it if you want to actually play the game, if you want a handicap then your matches will revolve around it
>>546884048I told them to buff heavy shields to shrug off light ammo and restrict freeniggers to using the hairpin and rattler.
>>546896856No that's chad behavior, FUCK no mics.
>>546896981>you are handicapped if you have more potential loot sources in a loot gameYou are handicapped.
Watched someone use a heavy shield and holy fuck, he got melted by some ski mask venator shitter as if he had a light shield. They really have to buff blue/purple shields.
>>546841590>>546841703>>546842383>>546842849>>546861090Why is this a surprise?>consoles = kids>kids = good at games>good at games = less of a pussy>less of a pussy = more likely to push for fightsIt's unironically that simple. If anything it just shows how dogshit PC players are even with the advantage of your basic peripherals.
>>546897110based idiot anon
Almost shot a guy in the last 10m of a raid because he wandered up to me and was acting really suspicious after I called out to him. He ended up being friendly but the map was hot so I was a half second away from killing him. Maybe he was a rat but I kept my eyes on him/had my gun out so maybe he got intimidated.
>>546897115You can survive a singular extra bullet with the downside of 10% slower movement speed than a blue shield. And the crafting cost is way higher and the augments are more limited
>>546896993You didn't actually call them that in the survey, right?
>>546897153bait used to be believable
>Queen fight>Nobody has a hullcracker but lots of Anvils/Ferros>Takes fucking forever to even get it smoking>Nobody has any ammo at all, half the server is just beating it's legs with axes>Actually manage to get the kill miraculously, but a Bombardier + Wasp swarm is hovering the body>Mad rush to get any loot while rockets are flying all around>Literally everyone goes down, I have 2 defibs but died too>Some random fucking dude runs up with extra ammo, defibs and healing>Manages to get three of us out through a hatchI didnt know support was a valid play style in this game but god damn. Matches like this restore your faith in the community
>>546897115To be honest nothing can withstand the current venator, it's just instant death no matter what
>>546897262I think it's a matter of time before we get a big balance update that's gonna sort our freeshitter spam and shields sucking ass across the board.
>>546897153>console pleb not knowing PC players mog them in every competitive game with crossplay
>>546897397The devs have yet to do a single balance change to any of the guns/augments/shields. I can only hope it comes soon because I am very tired of playing with how the current meta is
>>546896514yes, you have enough points to have spare for one of the last tree skills and the rest aren't really worth getting, and lots of the early skills in survival are very useful aswell, best thing is still security breach + some early green and yellow skills,no reason to max out useless shit in green or yellow.
Peak retardation in this thread.>ERRRM please make it so end game gear is much better than lower tiers!Only ONE of you dumb niggers brought up the problem with expeditions alongside it, if you're gonna buff end game weapons then you sure as fuck better do mandatory wipes as well. Fucking retards. What a surefire way to absolutely kill this game by allowing full completionists just stay at level 75 hoarding the best gear in order to... do what? Fight arcs? Haha okay. That shit is going full pvp mode, fuck you fuck you fuck you go play Tarkov or something you no life faggots.
>>546895110I kneel
>>546897153Nah they're turbo shit at the game, but they just run free kits and stab people in the back to make it up. Most of the times i've been stabbed in the back, it was by kids or anime tranny steam profile.These niggers have zero empathy. Killing someone else after having a full conversation with them is peak sociopath behavior. Don't care if its a PvP game. I literally cannot imagine lying like this.
>>546897528Pretty sure that the survey they posted is for that purpose.
>equalizer barely better than the stitcher in terms of STK/TTK>worse DPS and TTK than any other weapon that can hit accurately in its rangenice
>>546897581>That shit is going full pvp modeUnless they actively work against it, it will get much heavier on the PvP side anyway, you retard. Fighting arcs is fun for a few hours.Why even make blue and purple weapon if they are barely any better than the grey ones ? There's almost no reason to bring gear when you can just go with a free kit and suicide rat your way.And what do suicide rats do ? THEY PVP YOU FAGGOT.
>>546897282kino
>>546897829All legendary weapons are just arc hunting gear currently pretty much
>>546881073The crouch spamming is actually a common thing between cheaters as well but mostly through walls to spot other wallhackers
>>546897153console players never played an extraction shooter before and are much more likely to just be influenced by the current thing and don't have much thought in gaming, kids are terrible at games and especially these kinds of games that require a level of empathy and predicting your opponent's moves. the average age of games like hunt showdown and tarkov is unironically like 26-29 with noticable amounts of boomers that grew up playing stuff like CS
>>546897271I'm going off the literal stats. Console players are more game for fights. Why would they be more game to fight if they weren't simply more confident in their ability to get free loot?>>546897398I promise you I have a better PC than 99% of the players in this game, never mind this shitty general.It's just facts. Kids are better at games than 25+ year old people like you and me. Look at any competitive game. Dominated by teenagers, literally. And what do teenagers have? Consoles because that's all their mummies and daddies can afford/are willing to buy them.
>>546897581>what's gear progression????
>>546898063>>546898063>>546898063>>546898063>>546898063>>546898063
>>546897926>kids are terrible at gamesStopped readingLiterally every study debunks this. You think a kid failing at school (most kids) with no responsibilities is gonna be worse at some boomer shit with 2 kids logging in to play a game after an 8 hour shift? Delusional, flat out
>>546897581Well as the game is now there's literally no point at all to engage with the progressionSo what's your solution? If higher tier gear isn't actually better than common gear, what are you even working towards?And yeah, the game should have mandatory wipes. Expeditions are going to be a meme that only the most mentally ill of mentally ill grinders will do
>>546897929my fucking eyes
>>546898164high specs do make poor people eyes bleed, I know.Must be my HDR jokes aside, no idea why it came out like that
>>546897153>kids>good at the gamethis is the average teen freeshitter performance when they don't have the advantage of unloading a mag in your back
>>546879604>Helldivers currently undergoing its 5th death spiral.QRD?
>>546898324I ain't watching your webm.What are you genuinely trying to argue? You do know it's a fact that kids just retain info more than grown ups? Like, undisputable. It's why fortnite is riddled with kids that will push any adults shit in. But "hurr durr fortnite doesn't heckin count" despite it unironically having a higher skill ceiling than this game. There is not a single "best" competitive player of any game above 30, I promise you.
>>546897912Which is fine with the gear as it is now, because if you run into a turbo no life all kitted out you have a chance to kill him.>>546897964Yeah, what is it when you can stay at cap and continually just hoard the best items that put you at a huge advantage over new players or people with worse gear? You're not progressing anything. You both failed to see what I was arguing for; I'm perfectly okay with rarer gear being much better than grays and greens. What I'm saying is that it would be fucking retarded to keep Expeditions as the only means of a server wipe, there's a reason all these sorts of games have wipes. And only ONE person brought that up, that's what I'm saying.But you fucking dipshits are too fucking stupid, too insistent on "I must be more powerful now that I have 200 hours in the game" type shit, and you'd be the same fucking faggots just hoarding good gear and never doing Expedition, otherwise you would have mentioned something to offset the huge power imbalance that will occur if they just buff gear and call it a day.
>>546892872>The real loot, the best loot, the juiciest Ark, is in the backpack of the guy who just spent 15 minutes fighting a robot enclave.No. The juiciest loot is up that guy's ass where you can't touch it.
>>546898324>wears the KOS outfit>"why would they shoot me in the back???"Keep with the times, unc. The kids' favorite streamer said that outfit is not to be trusted
>>546898108false equivalency, you're not arguing with boomer shit with 2 kids logging in to play the gameolder people have advantages in areas that kids lack like strategy, social skills, patience, knowing human interactions, and applying broader knowledge as principles like planningthe advantage kids have is having infinite time to learn the intrincacies of a gamesame reason adults can actually learn fine when they're older, it just requires a different strategy than rote 16 hours a day of practice and learning from failure>>546898521>I ain't watching your webm.okay kill yourself ig
>>546898108gimme oneand make sure it isn't "hurr durr kids invest more hours so they win more" slop that's comparing generations that did not grow up playing games with ones that currently arebecause in my experience, nah
>>546898650Angry anon, you can get a BP at any level. Your level has nothing to do with what kinda gear you get, just how good you are at PvP or how lucky you are with loot. I'm not at cap but I'm still hoarding rare gear because there's no incentive to bring it out to raids when you could get destroyed by people with grey guns and green shields. I'd do the Expedition if they let you keep BPs, or at least some of them. Otherwise I don't feel like wiping.
as soon as i turned off crossplay the game became a civilized place with no colored people around, what a fucking blessing
>>546899275give me a webm with your timer showing that reaction speed.I'll read your post when that's done. Or is this an instance where suddenly, NOW we don't make webms? I expect it in the next 15 mins btw, that's plenty of time to ignore your boomer latency and coinflip anticipated guesses on the green flash with that human meme benchmark website.
