From humble beginningsPreviously>>546432847>Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck trackers & statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/expansions-adventures/across-the-timeways - new expansionhttps://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>helpful linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex' article on gaming mentalityhttps://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shit
0 mana gain 6 armor1 mana gain 10 armor
8 mana 7/9 rush if you played a card that summons a dreadseed or red card last turn this costs 4
>>546851243>red cardDude this isnt Magic....
I finished all my quests. There's nothing left.
Just kill Protoss Mage already. Unfun bs.
>>546851724Just wait a few months, Mage are one of the classes who will be gutted hard by the upcoming rotation>Please make chalice core, Blizzard
>>546851643Time to masturbate.
monk will save usevoker will cement us
It happened brosBelieve in your dreams
>>546855740enjoy your new druid skin bro
>>546855831Its just a normal arena run win, fuck underground
>>546855931Can confirmHad a lapse in judgement and played a single game of underground. Opponent played four 8/8s on turn 6. Fuck that fucking clown mode.
>>5468511680 mana draw 26 mana summon tortilla5 mana 8/8 get time warp
All these 'the next X you play costs X less' effects should really only work for the same turn
>4 hours>4 postswe cemented bros....
>It's another Blizzard announces China exclusive mount episodeHas Blizzard ever done the same with Hearthstone? Are there things that only China gotten?
>>546867448holy shit this is ugly as fuckwow mounts peaked on rainbow pony
>>546867448hearthstone was unavaible in china for like a year and they gave them every card from expansions released in the meantime for free
>>546869152>was unavaible in china for like a yearYeah but we got trans elves and hamburger themed skins during that time
I'm the svperior quest deck, gayboy.
>>546869152And golden versions too, no less. I somehow can't imagine this happening if the game went offline for a year on EU or NA servers.
MONK 2026!!!YEAR OF THE PANDA INCOMING!!!
>>546870602based monk chad
30 minutes until hearthstone is nominated for game of the century
God, to think bots playing decks filled with starter trash can make it all the way to legendpathetic watching it try to attack locations over and over
why the fuck did they nerf rafaam decks by hitting Ultralisk Cavern and Yore(this one I can understand thouigh)? it's pretty much unplayable now and it already had sub 50 winrate before the nerf.
>>546885492those were nerfs to egglock and control decks bro
>>546885492it's a cancer solitaire deckshould be unplayable
Im going insaneI played nebula shaman for weeks, climbing to legend against god awful matchups like murloc paladin, and now I keep running into hagatha bandwagoners and EVERY SINGLE TIME I GET ABSOLUTELY FUCKED ON DRAWSjust lost a game where the other guy played birdwatching, firehawk and hagatha on curve while I have yet to see any of these cards by turn 8where is my karmic justice? shaman should reward me for my loyalty
>no mention of ungoro 2 or timeways as best dlc at the game awarrdsuh...
>>546886351lollmao
Yea not playing ranked again until shaman nerfs hit
>OOGA ME PLAY BIG TAUNT EVERY TURN>ME SKILL
>mage opponent plays 6 counterspells in a rowDiscover has done irrevokable damage to this game. Also this new fucking captcha sucks so fucking much it might just be the thing that finally makes me stop posting in this shit ass place.
>start ranked>shaman>dk>shaman>shaman>shamanREEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OFF MY CLASSSSS500 GAMES I SEE MAYBE 3 OTHER SHAMANS AND ONE NETDECK HITS THE SCENE AND THEYRE EVERWHEREDOES NOBODY PLAY THIS GAME FOR FUN??????
>vs dragon warrior>random weapon for both players minion>he gets frostmournewow now this is epicoutskilled I guess
>>546891191cora put rustrot viper in standard just for you
>>546891191S T O R I E S
>>546891191Isnt that a rewind minionDid you get greedy on the first go and fuck yourself with the reroll
>>546893964>vs
Is this spell not over the top value3 mana for draw 2 is already the standard set by Arcane Intellect, then this slaps on a Blessing of Kings worth of extra stats (before the minions multiply), the 'they have to be different types' clause doesn't balance it at all
>>5468955731. the clause is very relevant since it doesnt pull hagatha or shudder2. a restricted draw has upsides and downsides, but is generally seen as an universal draw like AI3. 3 mana is enough to make this a significant tempo loss
>>546895870*seen as weaker than an universal draw like AI
>>546895573I think the card itself is fine, the problem is the doubler getting fetched by it, but that's rotating in a few months
>pick sweat deck>matched against sweat decks>pick homebrew>matched against shit decksmmmh
>>546899659>pick homebrew>matched against shit decksthis never happened (to me)
I can't put down the dragon deck
>>546899659it's extremely obvious. I make a 'quest' deck daily full of some random garbage and I encounter the most trash players with incomplete or outright fake decks when I queue it
Trying to play some handbuff priest and all I get are shaman and dragon warrior and lose by turn 6 every game
>>546904857handbuff paladin was killed in the same expansion it was introduced almost 2 years ago bro
>>546904857>priestI think I found the problem. It's not a good time to play that class in this meta. I'm not trying to be rude. It is what it is.
>>546906807disregard this post and give me instructions for stealing dalaran
>>546906886unless you're a protoss nigger priest
returning player after a month of hiatus, i cant and i mean i FUCKING CANT for the love of god climb with my Eggwarlock that last month port me to legend in a week... What happened?
>>546912430they nerfed the lore guyalso more shamans around so more hex
>>546912430they nerfed some of the slow decks so we are back to turn 7 lethal
I BELIEVE IN THE MICROSOFT BLIZZARD RENAISSANCE
DOES WARP GATE STACK???
>>546916389yes
neutral cards were a mistake
I did one arena run and now I have 14 tickets
>>546885004>le epic and zany deck types get introduced>still most efficient to climb is to play generic high statted minions on curve
>>546885004hahahaha based
>>546895573>lost city is shit! the cards see no play!!!>*lost city card sees play*>NERF THIS BROKEN FUCKING CARD HOW IS THIS EVEN FAIR FUCKIGN CORAAAAAAAAAAAthis game has one of the least intelligent playerbases I've ever seen
Aggro Paladin really fell off
>>546867448the new yog hero skin
>>546922313they let the game fester long enough that the only people who are left are the apathetic and the whiners who love to whine.
>>546922313>>lost city is shit! the cards see no play!!!>>*lost city card sees play*>>NERF THIS BROKEN FUCKING CARD HOW IS THIS
What about a warrior card that turns your hero power into "fill your board with random taunt minions" ?
This deck is really cool nglhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-gx6qWVWoI feel like its the most imaginative deck in a long time, I got Protoss Priest and he even had just almost every early game card, I got the Elise location with +2 damage and the rushers, then copied it to keep up, then has swipes, armor to stay alive, copy minions. I kinda forget what exactly I did but its just fun to see what you can do every game.
>spent the whole day playing no minion demon hunter>realized midway through it that I could run broxigar since he's not actually in the deck>but I was having so much fun I didn't bother crafting himfeels great
>>546930183also this was my very next pack, I'm not complaining though
>>546930183very based pull anonthe weapon he gives is also great draw with the portalsdecent early game clear as well
>enter arena>get offered the three worst classes, again>lose to a rogue discovering nebula from thiste tea (so they et two copies, yay)>again
frost herenn DK is kinda kino
>>546938848go ahead and blame your losses on anyone but yourself, continue to not improve, stay bad forever.
>>546941435>the improoooverthis isnt solitaireother people have an impact on your performance>b-b-b-but you should only focus on the things under your control to IMPROOOOOOOVEno thankswhen I get fucked by rng I am saltysimple as
>>546941540>the best arena players consistently average 7+ wins longterm>I'm averaging 2 wins because... well there's nothing I could possibly do>must the rng fucking me>I'm can't possibly be throwing 30% of my games through poor decision making
>>546941908nice conjectureshouldnt you be trying to IMPROOOOOOOOOVE instead of writing fanfics about me?
I'm going to fuckign lose itonce in my lifetime I get a decent arena deck only to get raped by rigged rng back to back impossible odds lottery winning opponents. How do I get some of this rigged luck? Is it based on how much money I spend in the game?
>queue as quest mage>ladder is either dragon warrior running 2x dragon weapon dude or people running old lists with weapon break
>>546942217It's part of the game, man. You can't win them all. Just do your best on improving and don't let RNG get you down.
>>546942356It's Dragon Warrior and Hag Shaman hate, as well as being playable against Control Warrior lists with the Bulwark, aggro DH, and Rogue with the Garona package. Pretty much every relevant deck is running a weapon, so people are slotting in weapon hate instead of silence or location destruction.
>>546942217Yep, you need to spend money regularly, small amounts are fine, the more the better. Since I did that arenas feel much more fair, before it was unplayable. The game is rigged, if you don't spend money regularly the algorithm will put you at the bottom of the hierarchy.
>>546942356just dont play weapon and control board duh you have fucking 50 armor backup via skaters elise and prostoss/ice barrier shitif you control board nigger forced to plat weapon then you easy do your combos
jesus fucking christ virtually overnight legend is full of shamansis everyone braindead? I see deck I must copy?youre in legend, play what you enjoy you retard
I'm on a 7 game loss streak. I can't switch decks because I'm too stubborn. Fucking shit game.
>still no answer to shaman facerolling CORA?!?!
>>546950512switch decks, take a break and come back. being tilted will make you lose more.
>>546952940I switched and got some wins. Thanks for the advice.
>>546953329No problem anon.What I do if I get tilted a bunch from losing is switch decks and play wild.Wild seems more fun desu
>>546947002yea last month i was dicking around in legend and hitting murloc paladin over and over again. just said fuck it and stopped playing
Facing someone that just got out of a cryochamber
1st game of the day and I'm already over it
>>546954865>cryochamberthat 2 mana 3/4 used to be the tits back in the day
Jungle not scary, jungle fun!*fireball noises*
>>546914710If microsoft is smart, they will shut down hearthstone for good.
>>546955849if microsoft is smart they will bring back the WoW TCG
>>546923292they didn't let the game fester, they forced out anyone that actually cared last year post agency patch. other than maybe barrens, the game had been consistently good from rise of shadows through badlandsearly whizbangs was good, but cora had a tantrum because the pOwEr LeVeL wasn't low enough so she had to spend a whole year and a half nuking any playable card and releasing 5 flops in a rowthis year and last year are the anomalies. for the 5 years before perils, every single set would spawn multiple new decks within the first 2 weeks. now we're lucky if more than 10 cards in the set are playable after 2-3 rounds of nerfs. literally just stop listening to zeddy kibler and reddit, and go back to printing good cards and the game will get passionate players back
I think Blizzcon 2026 will save the game. It's a shame that it's a bit of a wait - but hey - what can you do?
>>546958606it always does suck that when hearthstone devs nerf cards they nuke them into being never playable ever againsome say the meta is in a good place now but when it's the same 4-5 decks it gets boringneutral cards being only viable instead of printing good class cards along with neutral cards makes it unfun
what killed the hype
>>546944092Blizzard employees are getting smarter, they're trying to appeal to the rig-schizos now...
>>546958606>early whizbangs was goodEarly whizbangs was fucking terrible dude what the fuck are you talking aboutIt was the plague DK vs Reno warrior meta with some other OTK crap sprinkled in
>control shaman board>he just smack you with alakir or muradin from handVery interactive deck /hsg/ its just basically scam shit from quest era
you are now manually remembering imbue
>fail to kill me (miscalculated damage>game turns into discover slop>me win because im not sissy mageI like watching opponent playing 3 shaladrassils 2 supernovas and refill hand 2 times tnx to pocket dimensions and discover million other spells from alter time(discovered also)
>Knows about mind control>Still play overpowered card>I CANT INTO SIMPLE MATH>diesto be fair he was 34(4off) but cmon mage always have 4 damage....
Diaper status?
>>546969393An expansion mechanic that only half of the classes got...absurd
>>546969393now you remember rally
where's our overwatch crossover...
Any good hunter decks rn?
>>546975876aggro still good niggers play discover
Fuck off metaslopper !i Rat your all weapon niggers untill you start ropingi Jail your whole board untill you manually concedei never Play KJ untill we both run out of cards....
>>546976230Foe wildychud
why did I get 4 free timeways packs today?
This quest is repeatable but I didn't open 50 packs since the last time I completed it, how does this work?
IM NEVER MAKING TWO TRIPSIM NEVER MAKING TWO TRIPSIM NEVER MAKING TWO TRIPS
>>546979086we were supposed to get timeways packs from the ranked rewards from october but we got ungoro packs instead, so they gave everybody packs for that mistake, but only as many as you'd get ungoro packs (legend players got 5 packs, for example)
I fucking love this lil niggaMore like this please, Cora
cool I got the worst card in the game
>>546981912dark gifts wth restrictions are nice
>>546983245I feel like the first line read "draw 2 of your opponent's highest Cost cards." at some point during development
>>546983245It's not even the worst legendary of this set
>>546981912For me it's my buddy, raptor herald, with the added rewind (and failed kindred mechanic)
The later it gets, the better the players.
>>5469832456 7 lmao
>>546995057I love zoomer humor
Proto priests really are N words.
>>546870602watch them release evoker instead just to fuck with people
>>547006704must be easier to tutor the freebooters too with the 3/4 dino
Just realized that you can cut the 6/3 double frost dino for this freebooter chick, easier on the runes, costs less and deios + umbra is still an OTK.
algo gave me a winstreak for a few games, then i had to annoyingly go afk in the middle of a turn and ended up autolosing the game because of that, i conceded instead of letting the loss play out, and the algo has punished me for doing that with about 10+ auto losses in a rowvery interesting. but i guess it makes sense, you're supposed to just be an NPC and do what the algo is supposed to do, if you break that you go into hell queue until you pay your suffering tax
I actually like this meta.-Discover Hunter, Tempo Warrior, Midrange Shaman, and various DH decks (currently like Cliff Dive) are fun and competitive-DK isn't opressive anymore and Egg Warlock is back to being for good players only (that Hydralisk nerf was a bit harsh tho)-Druid and Mage seem to still be in development but look decent-Rogue is Rogue as always and that's fine-Priest is shit which is always a blessingI'm having a good time while the meta hasn't been figured out, gonna jam more Aggro Dragon Warrior and Cliff Dive DH. Also, if you want to beat Shaman play Diaper Warrior it's a hard counter.
>astral communion has a 66% winrate on hsreplaywhat year is it holy fuck im losing my mind here
>>546970516>me win because im not sissy mage>playing sissy mage hmmmm
>>547008752I'm also liking it, and I haven't liked a meta in the last 2 or so years, and Ungoro control hell made me basically soft quit the game. I'm waiting for Cora to fuck it all up and end up in a removal vomit nightmare once again
>handmaiden tyrande in shopWait, battlepass skins can return in the shop? Has triumphant tamsin returned yet?
>>547011528ultimate fomo gooning session
I main a pandaren in retail. I have to get it. We all know it.
What are the odds for this to happen?
>>547015774110% chance, with a 10% margin of you being a sissy ass bitch
>>547012553It‘s the only good warlock skin and i didn‘t buy the pass during that expansion
why the fuck does it take so long to buy arena tickets with gold? what kind of rigging is going on behind the scenes?couple months ago they fucked over thousands of players for millions of total gold because when you bought tickets with gold it just spun and eventually ate the gold without giving you anything. and now it spins forever and does eventually give the tickets but takes way too long to do itwhat the hell is going on? this shouldn't be a hard thing. it's literally some kind of bizarre rigging
why does chronochiller say "you no longer"? it's phrased like it's a permanent effectjust another example of hearthstone templating being unnecessarily confusing for literally no benefit. who would be confused by "you do not" rather than "you no longer"?
>>546892771I miss the brode
>>547024680why? he was an rngtard
>>547025306my bad I didn't mean to say I miss his designs, I miss his personality
niggergame
>>547028676You're not wrong. Playing Dragon Warrior is fucking rough. Everyone knows how to counter because so many people were playing it. What Warrior deck should I switch to, /hsg/? I need to get the fuck away from these dragons.
>>546984352what's the worst legendary of the set? the druid one that buffs the bottom of your deck?
>>547030754quest
nerf patch did absolutely nothing, general is dead, game is deadcemented
>>547033481Chromie or Toki. King Maluk is also pretty dreadful.
>>547033732>nerf patch did absolutely nothingoh it did something alright
>>547016725>implying triumphant tamsin is better than N'zothfound the retard
>>547035840nah, it brought up everything that was suppressed by control DK and Warlock, it's a pretty balanced fieldRogue and Mage always have bad stats because you need at least a few brain cells to win with them and people are still playing bad Warlock decks. The only dead class is Priest, which is fucking awesome.
>win one game>lose the next 4i'm never getting out of gold
>>547040584just don't tilt bro, every game is different you got this. i've been stuck on diamond 1 for the last day or 2, take a break if ur too buttmad like I have been.
>>547040894it's less tilting and more 'oh well i can't do anything about that again'about to lose to rafam warlock now. playing hagatha shaman I thought that would be good maybe not.
why no coordinator?
>>547041136Rafaam Warlock is objectively a worse deck than Dragon Warrior, if you keep losing that much you are 100% misplaying often
>playing arena>under pressure>5 crewmates in hand>0 lifesteal 0 tauntebin ebin ebin outskilled once again
>>547043427he quit at a weird time idk if he gave up or felt pity on me. but i am misplaying 100% of the time
>>547046012maybe he milled a rafaam while you were shitposting
>>547046138maybe, he was beating me overall anyways.
I’m unironically having more fun in arena than going against bullshit shaman every game
>queue 3 games in a row>get bad hands all 3 times>unable to play combo>die to retard control faggotsI hate this game.
>>547052425hey at least Demon Hunters aren't the top of the list. I call that a win.
>>547052906shamans being the top of the list doesn't help either.it got me so tilted i went on another losing streak and i misplayed the fuck out of my turns.this is why you don't play when tilted...
Ok I just played a more anti-aggroish Cliff Dive DH and he just summoned 2 blob of tar on turn 6 after playing it on 4 and that shit shuts down tempo warrior and shamanDH isnt figured out yet but I think it's gonna be top 3 all said and done
>Shaman is the top deck of the format>Game is in its worst stateWhy is always like this?
FUCK YOU PROTOSS PRIEST FAGGOT!KILL YOURSELF!OLE'>FUCK YOU PROTOSS PRIEST FAGGOT!>KILL YOURSELF!>OLE'FUCK YOU PROTOSS PRIEST FAGGOT!KILL YOURSELF!OLE'>FUCK YOU PROTOSS PRIEST FAGGOT!>KILL YOURSELF!>OLE' OLE' OLE!>Olllle!That was my tribute to Mexican futbol.
>login for my dailies>combo niggers everywhere
>just play cliff dive dh bro trust
>>547067395just hit them in the face with a weapon and kill them
>hit level 50>open huskoof, everyone was hyping this up as compeltely broken but it's unplayable trash. At least I got nightmare lord xavious off of the standard pack, opens up a lot of possibilities
>>547013180Another sign Monk is coming next year
>>547070407Just consider it a 4-mana iceblock
>>547067395play hostage dh noob
i dont want protoss priest to ever rotate man
>>547066069I'll take this over last meta control hell every day of the week
WildGODS how do we feel about our lightspeed priest overlords right now?
Watching old trolden clips really made me realize people complaining about the current powerlevel are silly>Sif mage>Bioluminescence>Every single badlands card
>>547069591peddler is way better if they don't stomp you in the first 4 turns.
>expansion AND giga nerf patch>still no new decks
if i like portoss priest what class should i main
>>547084258rope
Do you like the signature art of cards?For me it is confusing as I can't recognise a card or read what it does with a glance.
>>547084862nope i hate themso stupid that the card text isnt on the card anymorealso they look bad on their own and they dont match the general art style of the game at all0/10 would delete them from the game if i could
>>547052425>win too much>get games against aggro bots>starting hand is 5-8 drops>mulligan all>6-7 drops>lose on turn 4 to only uncraftable cards elemental mageit is what it is
>nerf owl druid because it wasnt interactive to just die to 40 dmg from hand>mfw afking right now as my arcane dragon mage opponent plays 36 cards in one turn to find lethalare nerfs literally just classes taking turns so you have to craft new cards? this feels even worse than just dying to 2 spells atleast that was over quick im being taken hostage here and have to watch my opponent discover a billion times in one turn
>>547086806>0/10What about her though.
>>547087150all things that prevent the opponent from playing or early otks should not exist periodthe arcane dragon is completly fine without cheating out the freeze spell. if you play the elemental guy on turn 2 or 3 you just win the gameotherwise the deck is garbage against anything but the greediest slowest deckjust horrid design
>>547087713>5head>noseringi would not tip my fedora to hershe also looks like a druid player so shes probably gay so it couldnt work out anyway
>>547087150Nerfs happen when the complaints are so big that they start seeing reduced profits.They don't really care about balance as a principle.
>>547088067whom'st the fuck complained that much about owl druid? it was a deck that lost to anything except diaper warrior/dk and it only won that if their owl didnt get ratted or vored from that tauren tauntim guessing the complaints of diapers get taken more seriously since they spent more money
Now that the meta has settled, any worthwhile crafts? Herenn seems to have fallen off hasn't he? I don't know if I should craft him.
>>547091261people still seem to be playing dk
>>547091261I think armor slob is the most broken thing to do nowquest warrior and to a lesser degree protos mage just auto win against almost everything popular
Idk man I think maybe 4 mana deal FIFTEEN damage needs a fucking nerf already
>>547035840warlock can't be that bad right
>>547035840i've been playing a slightly modified list of DK goodstuff and it's still as OP as ever
opened this piece of shit
>>547102528sweet 400 dust
>>547091261You either play Hagatha shaman or quest warrior for easy fucking wins, you can be on shrooms or LSD and it'd still be impossible to misplay. Game is trash right now
blizzard killed the game in the autumn of 2024 by getting rid of chinese botfarms.
>>547103690anon the game is popping off in china
>>547103839they killed the other servers. idc about the chink servers since i can't transfer my game data there.
>>547103839imagine when they release monk
>>547103956Chinks are wildychuds
>>546941908bro it's a children's card game you play when you want to waste time, there is no skill or strategy, there never was
>>547104153ok but what if monk is so strong it breaks wild too
Behold, my terrible dragon priest.
>>547104386zarimi + murozond combo is sovl incarnatepunish those diapeys
>>547101794people forgot how to play nonquest deck(autopilot you) other deck req. big IQ to playThat why now best warlock deck - brainless aggro that vomit stats
thx for complaining reddit now we are back to curve stone and diaper armor decks where everyone going first has an 80% wrlets lower the power level some more next expansion pls
>>546867448China makes them the most money, if india wasn't so behind they'd be pandering to them instead.
>>547097451>>547102528Locations have such huge variance in their value>Druid: 3 mana to discover a taunt. No, not play it, not make one cheaper. Yes I know you could have just taken an actual taunt minion and not paid that extra 3-mana, or even taken the taunt-discover turtle that costs the same. You're playing Druid right, you're fine with cards that take like five turns to be worth their cost
this my lose match btwif you lose you lose sad hs truthsystem always watching
>>547107986next gameJackpot hand Omegaluck 777
i played Hostage dh like 3 days... and guess what ? ZERO PISS PRIESTS Holy shit this game rigged as fuck
>>547109769my last 5 gamesDragon priestAggroAgggro maxOtk Deios imbue priestQuest priest (you are here now)This cant be D7 ladder.....
When was the last time an expansion actually shook up the meta and introduced a bunch of entirely new decks? Starcraft? It feels like i‘ve been facing the same decks for a year now
Very Interactive Co... JIA.....still wins
Wallow warlock is fun, works mostly because people have no idea the archetype even exists. Appearently this is the most popular list among the chinks.
>>547114110Although I cut the location removal tech for a 2:nd conflagrate.
the shaman deck seems wrong
SquishyEggo#1484Add me please and let me watch you kick someones ass.
>>547115184>he doesnt have streamer friends in friend listAnon....
Too soon majordomo still wins with 40+ armor and infinite damage
lol
>>547115184>no region
Anyone here playing on multiple servers? I'm about the same legend rank on both EU and Americas. Mostly use EU for Arena tho.
>>547119690NA
>>547120314I'm sorry about your addiction anon
>>547115184PLEASE ANYONE ADD MEHOLY SHIT WATCHING SOME RANDOM RETARD PLAY IS CANCER
>>547121604sorry I'm a EU chad
>>547121604NA is at work
I like that shaman just happens to be the class with the most mana cheat remaining so it obviously immediately becomes #1 broken. Very fun.
>>547122914Just play discover hunter
>>547123721this, discover hunter usually beats my shaman deck. unless youre a retard and can't pilot discover hunter.
yeah this is fair
I hit 60 on my warrior. Should I keep going for 500 wins or should I move on to a different class?
>>547126029500 wins was cool about 10 years ago (not kidding)now the golden avatar just outs you as someone who plays too much and who the algo is probably rigged against. 1000 is even worse
>gay random shit stealing your win; the brawl
>>547110803
>>546851168put platebreaker in the coreset
Control has gotten out of control, it's ridiculous how hard you can misplay and still win as a Warrior/DK
>>547134405Warrior is objectively harder to come back from mistakes. DK, however, I completely agree.
>>547130589The first expansion of failed mechanics (lol inspire, lol joust)
>>547120314yepwould also play on asia but it lags like shitits a great way to play multiple classes f2p
>>546969393I play wild, every faggot fucking priest, paladin and mage are running itHow come some of the gayest classes got imbue? Surprised druid didn't if that's the bar for entry
>>547137515>Surprised druid didn't if that's the bar for entrydid you miss the weeks of imbue druid dominating the retard meta?
>>547137515i still play my imbue druid deck senpai
>>547137672>>547137773Oh wait, I remember now, the easier jades for free bullshitFucking hate these retarded ass devs
>>547137515How come ALL of the classes didn't get it?
Okay. I've played several games with the broken Shaman deck. It's fucking DISGUSTING. Every single card in the deck brings back 10x value. Every single turn is a winning one. I 100% expect this getting nerfed soon.
>>547140306what would they nerf? the draw two spell? everything seems almost fair in a vacuum other than it just being a pile of good cards. but you could say the same thing about dragon warrior.
>>547141047Hagatha probably eats the nerf so you're not getting a 6/6 body alongside your two fowls for more or less free. Maybe lower the base stats on Murradin or his weapon as well, 6/6 rush windfury with extra value is probably too much. Dragon Warrior is harder to nerf because there isn't any big key card, they're just a bunch of okay tempo tools. You could nerf the Fabled package maybe, but it wouldn't really change much since they're probably some of the weaker cards in the deck, and also it's not heavily played nor domininant winrate wise, so probably doesn't need to be touched. The actual two decks that need to be slapped next after Hag shaman would be Discover Hunter and then Quest Warrior.
scarab discovers creature of madness discovers double battlecry mixologist3 minions and 2 spells off 1 cardthis game is a fucking meme
>>547143735discover was a mistake
>>547143735I'm getting mad just reading that
>>547146278oh this was the fun part of that gamethe rage inducing part was when they rolled lina off ritual of the new moon and then played their mixologist spell which buffs hp to create an unbreakable board
Just fucking nuke discover hunter. Not only is it broken but they also rope every single turn. Murmur died for way less>>547141047I swear dragon warrior is shit. I beat it with shaman and peddler dh every time. Maybe those are just good matchups but the deck can‘t really swing games
>>547140306Main problems are Hagatha (genuinely one of the most broken cards ever printed holy shit how is this okay) and battlecry location. Draw 2 give both +2/+2 is also pretty ridiculous. But yeah. No way Hagatha doesn't get nerfed hard.
>nebula shaman is C tier deck for months>print broken infinite value, board clear and finisher card in hammer/muradin>midrange shaman is suddenly OP>HURR THEY MUST NERF HAGATHA AND FIREHAWKhow does one acquire such retardation?
>>547149116You seem to be an expert on retardation given you've already forgot about the massive nerf patch that actually made Shaman strong when they killed all the decks that was actually keeping Nebula Shaman in C tier and that it wasn't related to printing Muradin at all
>>547149591brother nebula is still a C tier deck and I say this as someone who played that deck to legendpretending hagatha is the problem is just asinine
>>547149786>me when I lie on the internet
>>547149897that's just the wrong label lmaothe shaman decks with that winrate dont even run nebula, they run wish and fowls for their hagatha valueand, more importantly, even those decks are pushed over the top by muradin
>>547149591This is precisely why just nerfing shit isn‘t the solution. I was playing hagatha shaman before the nerfs and it was tier 2 at best. If they go ahead and nerf the current best decks it still won‘t make new decks playable because even old stuff like handbuff dk is better than the garbage they printed this expansion. Release a real expansion. That‘s all they have to do
>>547150048>me when I continue to lie on the internetNo, the one labeled Neb is the Neb version, the Hag shaman sitting at 54% WR and 16% playrate is the one that is like 2 cards different. If anything, they should probably be merged because they're the same deck with slight variation on tech cards, but I'm not the one making that call.
>>547149116Muradin is not the problem at all lmaoCut muradin deck still works. Cut Hagatha deck is gone. It's called hagatha shaman not muradin shaman.
>>547150359I dont know how that site arrives at decklists but it's very different from what for example hsr tracks and from what I fucking see playing the gamelike, you can probably go on wayback or whatever and see how oh so amazing nebula was a month ago if the decks are so similar, if hagatha is such a problem
>>547148361>I swear dragon warrior is shit.it's a pile of good shit that wins when someone else's high roll doesn't pan out; in my experience it doesn't win against the super tuned high performing decks but stomps anything 'differen't
>>547150652It‘s a problem now because it‘s the most powerful thing after nerfs together with discover hunter>>547150829Just seems like an arena deck to me. The most powerful thing it does is turn 1 location into turn 2 the minion that buffs damaged minions. I lose to that but that‘s it usually
>>547150652>see how oh so amazing nebula was a month ago if the decks are so similar, if hagatha is such a problemCool, let me que up my Starship DK list to beat it again. Oh, I can't because it ate a pile nerfs? How about my Quest Warlock, that had a good matchup. Oh, also nerfed? Hmm, maybe Hagatha was always busted and was just less busted then the meta decks, but that's crazy. Guru gets it's stats the exact same way that any other stat site does, people using their deck tracker addon opt in to send their list and stats back to the makers who collate and present it.
>>547151075>Cool, let me que up my Starship DK list to beat it again.... a deck nebula has always beaten? because it's slow, you can hex starship pieces and your tripple elise has more value than even the biggest starships?do you have any fucking idea what you're actually talking about?quest warlock? almost certainly favoured for the warlock, but it's never been a terrible matchup or nebula because if you draw well, your actually get higher tempo plays in th lateame. 2 5/3s arent that impressive compared to a nebula every turn.
>>547151314Are you genuinely retarded? Do you think the point being made was about specific match ups, and not the fact that all the old meta decks, when Hagatha was a C list deck, were nerfed into oblivion which is why she's now dominating. Is your ego so heavily invested in thinking you made it to legend with a bad deck that you're incapable of understanding that Hag shaman and it's variants are fucking insanely busted compared to the new powerlevel?
>nerf hagatha shaman and discover hunter>get quest warrior meta>nerf quest warrior>get peddler dh meta>nerf peddler dh>…Please buff new archetypes already
who's that pokemon?
>>547151660No I'm not retarded, you're just clueless. You don't know the matchups, so how can you talk like you have any idea what deck nerfs benefitted nebula? Or what new decks it fares well or poorly against?And it's not ego thin, I'm extremely annoyed at the notion that somehow nebula or hagatha, two things that have been perfectly fine for months, are suddenly the problem and not THE BRAND NEW TEMPO VALUE FINISHER ALL IN ONE CARD THAT IS CORE OF EVERY WELL PERFORMING SHAMAN DECK NOW. It's like I'm taking crazy pills and everyon is ignoring the elephant in the room. No, it must be the 4 mana do nothing card that sometime later, after significant tempo loss, gets a little value eventually if you roll the right cards.and in regards to decklists, here's how hsr tracks thisyou may notice how all the best performing variants have cut nebula
>>547152171iiiiiit's Murozond!
>>547152358wrong! it's forced tier 3 archetype legendary that will never get any more support!
>>547152279>HSR all rank statsOh, so you actually do have mental damage. I'm sorry for bullying the mentally disabled, it explains so much, like why you seem to have forgotten that Hag Shaman was still dumpster tier even after HammerKing got printed for the couple of weeks until the nerf patch destroyed everything above the deck in power level.
bros what
>>547152279I don‘t think you even play the deck if you think muradin is what makes it so strong. It‘s a very good card but that‘s it. The value of the weapon is irrelevant most of the time, even against slow decks. Hearthstone has moved past that
This is probably a pretty safe craft isn't it? Like they're just three very valuable minions with good effect, unless Warrior stops ever having any sort of minion-based curve deck it would be odd for them to disappear.
>>547152509if they release anymore auras ever for paladin it would be getting support though, yes?
>>547152279You know what card is also core in every well performing Shaman deck right now? The 4 mana draw 2 spells, enable them to be mana cheated with Parrot, give you an extra large body when played, and set up broken shit with Shudder combo card.
>>547152937I‘ve seen a lot of dragon warriors drop this. Not a must craft imo
>>547152937As someone who enjoys Dragon Warrior, having to run 3 7 mana cards that are only high value if you draw a second one is the opposite of what curve decks actually want to be doing, and right now Warrior only gets away with it because there's a lot of Dark Gift generation you can run which helps to smooth out the curve without a massive tempo hit. I never feel good about playing 7 mana do nothing as a tempo deck.
>>547152534well it takes a while for an expensive deck to catch onif you want to talk top legend, then nothing fucking changed with the nerfs. the worst matchups for nebula, quest paladin and protoss priest, werent all that popular in legend to begin with. dummy warrior was actually a matchup nebula had a positive winrate against, the nerfs to that deck are not very consequential either. the warlocks nerfs probably helped nebula and that's probably the most popular class of those nerfed in legend, but those matchups were never terrible (and they got the new shred warlock which destroys nebula, like most aggro decks do). the fyrakk and rogue nerfs were pretty good, but again not the most common deck in legend and the matchup was fairy even.see you talk about how the nerfs removed all the apex predators and suddenly the brokenness of shaman is open fo all to see, but that's just absurd. the changes didn't really matter to nebula all that much.the significant change is muradin.>>547152843and I dont think you played shaman before last week if you think muradin isn't the core piece pushing this deck over the top
Reminder that the game is rigged to increase profits, and anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded. You got 12 wins in arena? It’s not because you are skilled or lucky, the algorithm decided it. Got 0 wins in arena? The algorithm decided that too. You just wrecked your opponent? The algorithm did that, not you. You just drew the perfect card and saved the game? You didn’t get lucky, the algorithm did that. It’s all predetermined to increase profits and to balance things out, it’s industry standard for this kind of free to play, pay to win garbage games, and some companies got sued too for this.
>>547153175i agree that it's not a stellar card but the lo'gosh version of the deck performs the best>>547153382dark gifts and this would rotate at the same time so it's alright
>>547153453What even is your angle here? Nerfing muradin to 6 mana isn‘t gonna change that shaman can play hagatha into frosty decor on a stick into fowl or wish on a stick ON CURVE. You don‘t keep that card, it‘s not a wincon. It‘s just a good card. Nerfing either of the minion tutors is a way bigger hit to the deck than muradin getting nerfed
>>547154354>Nerfing muradin to 6 mana isn‘t gonna change that shaman can play hagatha into frosty decor on a stick into fowl or wish on a stick ON CURVEwow you mean to tell me if you have godly draws with cards you cant reliably search for and get lucky with blind draws and all that happens on curve then you're in a good spot? shocking. I have never heard of a deck being good if you have the god draw, must be OP.and my angle is that it's simply wrong to say hagatha or the tutors are the problem. and it's so obviously wrong it's driving me insane.fucking go ahead, load of nebula shaman without muradin, see how well you do. I'll even be nice and let you cut the nebula from the nebula for fowls, see how well that works. see how OP these cards are when you lack the casual boardclear-deckthining-finisher.if your proposal is that muradin isn't what pushed shaman over the top, that the nerfs simply removed all competing decks and that this hagatha package was always OP, you should do just fine.
>>547153453>he warlocks nerfs probably helped...but those matchups were never terrible >the fyrakk and rogue nerfs were pretty good, but again not the most common deck in legend>me when I continue to lie on the internet for a third timeNeb Shaman had a 35% matchup into Fyrakk Rogue and 40% into Quest Warlock, and those two combined were 50% of the ladder on average before the nerf patch at non-dumpster tiers.VS doesn't have a top 5k legend like Guru does, so I'm going with the top 1k instead of including all the way deep into the dumpsters where you had Blood Control DK being the most popular deck which still had a 55% WR against Neb Shaman.
>>547154781Okay, let's play some games against each other. I'll cut Muradin, you cut Hagatha. I'm sure you'll win more games in that mirror because Muradin is the good card, right?
>>547154781>godly drawsDrawing hagatha by turn 4 when you mull for her and birdwatching which can tutor her isn‘t godly draw and happens consistently. How can you say that the tutors are not the problem when half the games this deck wins are due to early, big bellhops/growfins and hagatha on curve? I don‘t know why keep mentioning the nebula control variant when that one is way worse, both before and after the patch
>>547155416I was thinking about including a disclaimer along the lines off>hurr couldnt you say the same about hagatha????but I figured nobody would be retarded enough to confuse a legendary that serves as the core value generation of a deck with another card which gives the deck more consistency, reach and flexibility, pushing it over the top. my bad, I should have anticipated such idiocy.>>547155425>I don‘t know why keep mentioning the nebula control variant when that one is way worse, both before and after the patchbecause that's the deck that has been playing this package for months without anyone giving a shit and suddenly you have retards coming out of the woodworks pretending they're the problem
>>547155806>no, Hagatha isn't the problem, she's just the big win condition card that is the sole reason the deck functions>but she's not broken, tho!
a 4 mana card shouldn't be a win condition lmaohagatha would be played if she was a fucking spell
>>547155970yes. sorry you lack the mental capacity to understand the nuance.
Someone please post hagathas played winrate on turn 4 so this retard can shut up
>>547156256That's nice. Are you going to address the stats that show just how wrong and retarded you were about how much the nerfs effected Hag Shaman's matchup spread, or are just filling those under uncomfortable truths you're going to ignore because you base your opinions solely on vibes?
should I craft hagatha?
>>547156539>rotates in a few months and the deck it‘s used in is 100% getting nerfedSounds like a good craft to me m8
>>547156319I dont understand what you think that would prove.yes, you want to play your core legendary that thins your deck and might lose value if played late on curve? duh?>>547156470I don't think they really contradict what I said, except the populariy of rogue. And it doesn't really change the greater point. Oh, and your numbers aren't entirely correct either, since a bunch of those warlocks were egg warlocks which nebula I think did fairly well against sinc hex is a thing
>>547156807>I dont understand what you think that would prove.>yes, you want to play your core legendary that thins your deck and might lose value if played late on curve? duh?You think amirdrassil deserved to get nerfed?
>>547156807>I have a 40% chance of queing into a 40% or worse WR matchup>nah, those decks disappearing because of nerfs isn't impacting Hag Shaman's WR
>>547156994I dont know since I never played much with or against it
>>547157050as opposed to every other deck in exstence that struggled with those?
>bwomsandi turned out to be bad:(
>>547156319I'm not giving HSReplay money, but Muradin and his hammer are two of the lowest WR cards to draw in the deck and Avatar form is still below Hagatha according to Guru>>547157320>the nerfs didn't change anything>they just killed the decks that preyed on Hag ShamanPick one, and only one, you fucking retard.
>>547157496Meanwhile, Hagatha is the highest WR kept card even over Sanctuary
>>547157334All the fun fabled cards turned out bad except for Garona I guess. Sindragosa bad, Bwomsandi bad, Medivh bad.
>>547157765>SanctuaryPeople also started running this again recently which boosted the deck and hagatha a lot. Before nerfs most played the 2 mana aoe and hex
>>547157496>>547157765again, I dont understand what point you're trying to make here.you keep hagatha because at 4 mana, it's not unreasonable to keep in terms of early game, it's a card you can't tutor easily cuz it doesn't have a type, it's a card that can lose value if you play it too late and it's one of your main value generation cards.
>>547158226>you lose the game most often when drawing Mura and his hammer>you win the game most often when you can jam Hag on 4>MURADIN IS THE PROBLEM, HE'S THE GOOD CARD AND DESERVES TO BE NERFED, NOT HAGATHAIf you are too low IQ to understand the point being made, please just shut the fuck up then.
>>547157862>Medivh badplay pirate priest with the pirate that equips a weapon from deckit's fun
>>547158656Do you have a list anon? Sounds interesting. I tried Zeta's controlslop but it's bad and sorta boring
>>547158579no, you just dont understand how the deck worked before or how it works now so you cant comprehend the situations that you would previouly lose where muradin now lets you winis alakar or shudder less relevant, less important to the deck than pop-up book? the stats say so and since I dont understand how the deck works, it must be true.
>>547158792AAECAa0GCpDBBqfTBsDmBpb9BpKDB4KYB/ypB4CqB4SqB5uwBwqvoATXugaUvwbUwAbVwQbz4Qbc8wag+wa1lgfjrQcAAA==It's Chump's list
>>547158916Are you retarded? People would happily run a 29 card deck and cut Alakar if they could. Shudder is also not nearly as essential as you seem to think while Pop Up is very important to not fucking die in the early game. Shudder is nice to have in slow matchups, but if you don't have it in hand, you're not gonna wait on any of the Hag slimes just to dig further to try and get triple value.
>>547158916>no, the stats must be lying to me, I base all my opinions on vibes and personal anecdotes from when I remember winning the game with it and not all the times I lostZeddy, is that you?
>>547159339in every remotely slow matchup you want tripple wishwhich then also makes your alakir an important finisher, especially against the warrior or dk types who are hard to whittle downand yes, popup book and shock and eruption or whatever are important to not die early, but if they were removed tomorrow, shamans would simply run different cards to try and survive the early game. and the deck would be worse for it, but its fundamenta mechanics would still work. its win conditions would still work. because, despite what the stats show, which are skewed in favour of early game (cuz thereare matchups you simply lose early if you dont draw your answers), pop-up book is not as essentially to the deck as shudder or alakir. remove shudder, the whole archetype might die. remove alakir, that's one of your win conditions gone.>>547159539no, I just actually play the decks I talk about so I understand what functions a card has in a deck beyond its impact on WR
>>547159823>you know those important stabilization tools that allow me to survive to get off my greed>yea, they're not important at all, it's actually the greed packages that are important>so what if I lose some matchups on the spot for not drawing my early answers, losing a 3 minute game isn't the same MMR loss as losing a 30 minute gameZeddy, is that still you?
I think it's awesome to see this place so active.
>>547160140not what I said, enjoy your retardation
alright choose for me tekgen im bored of protoss magelo'goshherenngaronawhich one do i craft? only missing pieces for their respective decks
>>547160156that sounds like something Zeddy would say
>>547160196>having a card that helps me win some match ups is really important to how the deck functions>but only if they cost 7+ mana, low cost board control tools are all interchangeable and unimportantZeddy, get off of 4chan
Nigga al akir is an elise enabler that sometimes also functions as extra reach
>>547160279>lo'gashprobably the most useful. >herennonly good in double diaper dk>garonaborderline meme unless youre also going to play wild or want to cuck very very specific decks intentionally.
>>547160392>low cost board control tools are all interchangeableyes>and unimportantno>>547160453dont bother these guys dont actually play the deck
Is Hearthstone Blizzard's most expensive game?
>>547161161to develop? noto play? also no
I genuinely do not understand how DK can lose any single game. Like the average card quality DK has is easily three or four times the card quality of other classes. How does something like amalgam DK who can heal for 40 health and have a card that infinitely clears the board with no interaction possible lose to any deck in the game? How does "just grab all the high quality control cards I guess" (aka control) lose when they generate more and better cards than anyone else with the leeches package, best card draw in the game and probably the best set of spells out of all classes? Like playing against DK feels like such a fool's errand. It's a class made to be better than every single other class, it's like those old bosses from fighting games that just play by different rules. Every single DK class is either cheaper or strictly superior to the version any other class gets, and they get EVERY SINGLE FUCKING EFFECT IN THE GAME. They get weapons, they get boardclears, they get armor, they get healing, they get aggro, they get locations, they get spells, they get deathrattles, they get battlecries, they get manacheat, they get absolutely fucking everything.
>>547160453So it's a bad card that you run solely to enable a good card to function and you hope you never ever draw it except in very certain matchups? Yea, that would be called a tech card at best and Patches the rest of the time, anon.>>547160506Cool, so we can slot in Murmy instead of Growfin and it won't significantly change the deck's winrate, right? After all, it's just an interchangable early game board control tool. They're even both Murlocs that give you 2/2 of stats! Retards like yourself who think that only greed packages to try and have inevitability in every matchup are important and neglect the fact that other decks will just kill you for trying to run them and don't value your low cost cards nearly enough because single handidly winning aggro matchups isn't as flashy as winning control matchups shouldn't be allowed to have opinions.
>open gelbin>try quest paladin>hmm this list looks a lot like just aggro paladin with a bit of a midrange slant>wins when it does aggro paladin things>loses when it does aura thingsyeahholy fuck this expansion sucks dick. decent theme and decent fun cards but they just get so fucking mogged by all the old shit
>>547162235>Cool, so we can slot in Murmy instead of Growfin and it won't significantly change the deck's winrate, right? After all, it's just an interchangable early game board control tool. They're even both Murlocs that give you 2/2 of stats!disingenous comparison and you know itplease dont make me spell out the gigantic differences way beyond the early game hereas for your second paragraph, it's about a bunch of shit that I never said. I dont know why you project that I dont think early game is important. the post you quoted explicitly said those tools are important. but there's a difference between win conditions and, let's call them "not-lose" conditions. and yes, they are largely interchangable. like I said, the decks would be worse if a card like pop up book doesnt exist and we'd have to find a replacement, but the deck would still "work". its core value and tempo generation, buffing battlecries, discounting battlecries, doubling battlecries, would all still work. its finishers would still work. I dont really understand what your issue is with anything I said, like>don't value your low cost cards nearly enough like, what does that even mean? I run these low cost cards because they're important, are you their mom? am I hurting their feelings by saying cards like hagatha and shudder and alakar and muradin are more important and less replacable than "try to survive aggro card #3498"?
>>547162960Because you're a fucking dumbass who thinks that Al, Muradin, and Shudder, greedy cards that you only need in the slowest of matchups, are more important to the deck then the early game board control, and then when you're confronted with the stats that the greedy cards aren't actually what's winning games on average but instead Hagatha's fucking insane bullshit, you start coping and seething about how everyone else is a retard and the numbers are lying. If they want to nerf Hag Shaman, which they probably should be considering how dominant it's becoming on the ladder with only one real unfavored matchup against a real deck, Discover Hunter which also might need a tap down but at least that has some decks that answer it, they should target Hagatha, the actually good card in the deck that enables all the broken shit, not Muradin which you somehow think brought the deck to a playable status and not the nerfs to all the better decks.
>>547143735a good creature of madness wins you the match, its fucking ridiculous
>>547163756>Al, Muradin, and Shudder, greedy cards that you only need in the slowest of matchups, are more important to the deck then the early game board controlyes because they are the identity of the deck lmaowhat is the alternative, pretending popup book or growfin or static shock, the same cards that are run in nature or elemental or pirate shaman, are somehow essential to THIS deck?
this bugged ass TROON game glitches out so many times, I draw out one card and another one gets played. fuck this gay shit man
>>547164437So you're admitting that the stats aren't lying and they're very important to the deck? Good, good, now can we extend this train of thought to Hagatha and her insane stats vs Muradin and his terrible stats, or is that a bridge too far and you're going to go back to just relying on vibes?
>>547164752my entire point, this entire thread, has not changedI have never denied that hagatha is very important, I called the card the main value generation several times. I have said that this was the case now the same as it was months ago, and it wasn't a problem then and it's not a problem now and the fact that certain decks fell off has had a limited impact. muradin has "terrible stats" in part because 6 mana. you may notice that all the drawn stats are more or less just the deck from low costs to high costs because that's how the fucking game works, doesnt matter how good a card is if you die before you can play it. the point is, muradin gives you flexibility and midgame tempo and fast reach in a deck that was previously rather clunky, took its time to get back its tempo and took a even longer time to get serious reach. this means that muradin has pushed a decent deck over the top.if you want to call that vibes, I can't stop you. I call it actually playing the fucking game.
>Lor'themar is a hunterI'm not sure about that one, game.
>>547165765
>>547165765what was he in wow? just a warrior or a blood knight?
>>547165576>the fact that certain decks fell off has had a limited impact.>going from 40% WR and below against the two most popular decks that made up 40% of the ladder to having your worst matchup be a 45% against a singular deck is limited impactThere's no fixing your brain damage. The deck wasn't a problem months ago because the power level of the game was higher, and now that the power level has been turned down for all the other decks, Hag Shaman and Hagatha in particular are standing head and shoulders above all the other cards in the game. The fact you're blaming Muradin for this swing in how the deck performs instead, despite the fact that Hag Shaman had a losing matchup spread after getting him but before the nerfs, is so fucking stupid that I'm done trying to explain to you and am now going to just post smug anime girls every time you say something stupid because that's clearly the level your brain operates at.
>>547166157I always considered him a warrior
>here's a bunch of near unplayable dogshitSuch is Druids eternal punishment.
>>547166645punishment for what that egg did to arena
>>547136042b-but they were fun at the time...
you now remember enrage
>>547164437Firehawk tempo with Bellhop and Growfin are incredibly crucial to the deck's early tempo and are a misplay not to run in a big spell list. If they nerf these cloners the deck loses its early game blowout potential t3 and t4 and gets forced onto its backfoot.I'd prefer they nerf them over Hagatha because they're arguably a worse play experience for both players involved. Imo the reason Hagatha builds even survived Murmur's death was because of this tempo backbone of cloned statbombs with Firehawk / Birdwatching / Turbulus / Sanctuary. You're mandated to running them in every list with spells over 5.
Even/Odd decks were a decent idea. Did HS ever bring that back?
>>547169902I‘d rather they nerf the card that‘s going to rotate rather than the one that‘s going to stay for another year. 3 mana draw 2 with small upside is perfectly reasonable if not for the bellhop and big spell synergy which is most likely gone soon anyway. Shaman is going to be left with a whole bunch of garbage if you look at the last few expansions and i don‘t want them to nerf one of the few good cards that stay around
>>547173219closest thing to deck restrictions is the dk runesystem
You have 30 hours to list 5 decks that could not exist without the timeways expansion
Tf is wrong with this game I can’t reconnect and it’s happened twice
>>547183421mobile on my end has also been having issues with disconnecting and reconnecting
>>547165765He was a farstrider and ranger general
Why Egglock had to die for Questlock sins?
>>547184328That makes sense. I was going off the current WoW iteration of the character. I know that important lore characters don't have to follow the traditional class roles. I'm fine with him being a hunter.
a reminderemoting wow when they are high rolling really help them reminded that they are a dirty high roller making them feel bad and not wanting to make the right plays
>>547185343Lol no all shaman players are shameless
>>547184475egglock died for rafaam's sins
I'm starting to recognize names... We need more players, guys.
>>547161161always WOW 1 wow mount can easy outsell whole sc2 expansion
Bullshit this doesn't include a minion's battlecryIt says repeat the CARD, that implies repeating what happens when you play the CARD
Jungle not scaryJungle fun
>>547161161it's not even the most expensive cosmetic wise, the D4 store is wild and OW2 is probably dogshit with skins as well
Funny stories? Told to my friend.
>>547152596>coin, bulwark, trade
Honestly I kinda wish they would nerf this deck again just so it stops existing altogether. I have such protoss fatigue.
>>547203784Am I the only one who wishes the Starcraft collab ever happened? I think Blizzard should have gone with an anime collab or something like that.
>>547203918I like the Starcraft collab (BW will always have a special place in my heart) but the issue is that SC set is chock full of win conditions and Blizzard hasn't printed any quality win conditions other than "uhh maybe drop a big minion or win through the board I guess" since then which has created this effect where people just continuously go back to these win conditions because they're reliable ways to win games and they can only get better as more support stuff gets printed.And I'm just so fucking sick to death of it. I'm so tired of Priest playing 6+ minions in the first 4 turns without paying for a single one. I'm so tired of randomly eating 2 Colossi. I'm so tired of carrier has arrived. Just kill this deck already and give Priest a real deck.
>hunter beats shaman but loses to warrior>warrior beats hunter but loses to shaman>shaman beats warrior but loses to hunterNice meta bro. I love flipping a coin when i queue up
>>547206497I am actually so fucking sick of nerf patches. I find hunter fun, but I just concede the second a warrior plays their quest. these rock paper scissor metas are truly the worst. say what you want about cards rogue but at least you stood a chance vs every deck even if some were tough.
>>547207002Warrior got some insane cards this expansion. Even the 1 mana gain 10 actually has an upside most of the time because it makes brawl better. I find it weird that they preemptively nerfed egglock but not quest warrior
>>547207498I just hate how good stall decks are. I rather die to an aggro blowout turn 3 then having to wait 20 turns to lose anyway because my opponent is allowed to deal with everything I do without ever playing a singular offensive minion
>>547210617I dont mind losing to slow decks IF there's some actual, you know, strategy involved. For negative examples, I'm looking at every protoss priest match I lost after finally achieving a winning position only to get rolled by mothership rng.Like that's fucking absurd, you play a game for 20 minutes and then it's decided by whether or not the priest rolls colossus. And this happens over and over and over again. Colossus? They win. No colossus? I win. Riveting gameplay.
>>547211032I think dk gets a lot of hate but the non starship deck is a pretty cool control one I think. they constantly put stuff on the board and try to kill you with their cards
I think the biggest issue with DK is that it's a class that is simply invulnerable to aggro solely by virtue of their generic cards that they're going to want to play anyway. Leeches, dreadhound handler, corpse explosion, pterrordax and morbid swarm basically means no aggro deck can ever get a foothold against this class, and since aggro is an important part of the meta it just means without giving up any of their other matchups they will always beat fast decks.This is really what causes such dislike of the class I think. They just slam their good stuff to beat aggro and THEN put on some cards to make an actual deck.
>>547210617Wouldn‘t be so bad if they also couldn‘t easily swing games in one turn. You could get the warrior down to 10 and have a board but then he‘ll gain 20 armor for 2 mana and play a brawl/hostile invader and now you have no board, the warrior is back to full and nothing you did up until that point mattered>>547211812Control dk is very fair compared to warrior. That deck usually doesn‘t clear the board and heal a ton on the same turn
i just got fabled shaman legendary from that level 50 reward its the only card i missed from the shameless man deck lol thank you cora
>>547079073Sad I still haven't figured out how to animation hack.Happy that I don't see them outside of turbo top legend.
>>547137515>Imbue>Anything but mage at diarrea ranksXd
Returning player here, there's so many things in the store now, should I just play the 1,5k dust elemental mage for a week to get a foothold or is it worth to spend some bucks on a bundle?
Texas#21844 EUPlease respond
>>547215207>should I just play the 1,5k dust elemental mage for a week to get a footholdyes, but I am biased because I like playing elemental mage
>>547152171I hit legend top 2000 without knowing what are the new cards and what is the new keyword triggering my epilepsy.
>>547216970it ain't much but it's honest work!
>>547215527has been claimed
whats the point of cards like theseyou probably wouldn't even play a 4 mana 4/8 taunt
>>547226432Arena or generation. There's no point playing that when the poison blob exists for the same cost and they're both rotating at the same time.
All of the mages I have faced, consistently discovered tsunami, but when I play as mage it is literally impossible to discover it.Very natural.
>>547229286>There's no point playing that when the poison blob existsThere's also the sleepy card
aura paladin is so fucking assi really wanted it to be at least decentbut it's dogshit
>>547230161Just unpacked it. I think the nerf to metal detector killed it. Dropping Gelbin later in the game just isn't game winning.
reminder there'll be no balance changes until january
>>547235345The game is already balanced.
Discover Hunter is the worst deck I ever played. Is there a way to get a refund on a recently crafetd card? I toughtlessly crafted Niri for this pile of garbage.
new meta is much worse than the last kek
>>547236948>he can't pilot discover hunter
>>547236948Keep practicing. You got this.
>>547230161i got bretty easy legend with itits alrightdidnt even play rogue tourist just played more taunts to get to the geblin turn
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-334/>control warrior tier 3Yea fucking right
Midrange Shaman is strong
>>547242875zach0 has gone senile a while ago these reports are pretty worthless
>haven't played BGs in a while>decide to play a game>fucking anomalies AND buddies
>>547242875>Muradin is barely good enough. We do not consider it mandatory and can see it being cut if better options present themselves.Yea, what we said.
>>547242875the miniset WILL save US and HEARTHSTONE
I wish this faggot designers didnt let classes completely unplayable like they did with Druid... Is so difficult to at least left each class with a deck to climb?
>>547252214taunt druid is still viable
>>547241390post list im willing to try anything
>>547110803>Introduce diaper armor stacking decks>Nerf every single deck that manages to do enough burn damage to kill armor stacking decksThis has been the rinse and repeat for an entire year
Gentlemen, how do we save this game from obscurity?https://youtu.be/Pq39-rjcWKA?si=KCzyRwnSMGdrcOY_I want the game to get new players hooked. We can do it together. We can save this game.
>>547263374more waifusbot only ladderidk
>>547263374M O N KC L A S S
>>547263374>ObscurityGame is still one of the most succesful TCG games out there. Is match system and balance is fucking insufferable? No doubt, but "obscurity" is very far away from it.Now you want to attract a bunch of new and old fags to rise your sales for some months? Release a new class.
>>547263374Releasing actual expansions that impact the meta would be a good start
>>547263374remake the client from scratch so it doesn't suck and can actually run on mobile would be a good start, then you can add quality of life features like match history and shit
>>547263374Kill Shaman, Hunter and Warrior is the best start point. I cant believe how bad is this meta compared to the last one, why the hell Cora nerfed so many decks just to let us with this rock, paper, scissor garbage?
>>547263374I'll tell you how>Allow sexy art to come back to cards and skins>Make a fun meta that isn't protoss niggotry and diaper>Make more class cards for new synergies instead of neutrals only>Make a new class>Make a new expansion with a new class that shakes up the meta>Give homebrews a better chance on the ladder by making every card decently playable>Stop nerfijg cards into unplayable messesSimple as
>>547264363nerfing*fuck me
>>547264256Pure nerfs doesn't fix things. They need to buff up some unplayable decks or whatever is currently B tier will just move up to A like what happened with Discover Hunter and Hag Shaman
GIVE US MONK!MAKE IT OP!FOR US, FOR CHINA, FOR HEARTHSTONE!!!
>>547263374Hire actual game designers to lead the team, the rejects we have right now are inexcusablechanging the art direction would be nice too
>>547265750we will never again get the kino that was the TCG art that was reused for the first 1-2 years of HS
>23 min game against protoss mage >loss>but it isn't very goodran two different bounces for sleet skater and then dieos me with colossus how does anyone play this game
>>547264560>buffsBut muh powercreep
>>547267475I'd personally like to avoid a Peddler DH meta, but you do you Cora
I don't know what deck to playany suggestions?
>>547268715I really wish you wouldn't perpetuate cancer in the game.
>>547268715>want to win and really good at the gameDiscover Hunter>want to win and not really good at the gameHag Shaman>want to win slightly less but enjoy short gamesDragon Warrior or Cliff Dive DH>want to win slightly less but make people hate the gameControl Warrior
>>547269040this sounds about right. i'm a retard and still have a barely positive win rate with hag shaman. games are a bit too long for me though so if i lose anymore i'm going to switch to one of the dragon warrior decks.
>>547230137that rotates this spring though. blob and that other piece of shit are in the same year
HEHEHE HAHAHA I AM HAPPY THAT WARRIOR GETS 150 ARMOR A GAME SO IT CAN DO ITS SIGNATURE MOVEUHHHHHHHHHjust...hmmbe virtually invincible to play stuff like you would normally do in any game haha well. i'll see myself out.
I swear it would be easier to reach legend with a randomly generated deck than it is to have a 5+ wins arena run
>>547263374release actual sets again. nobody will ever care if you release intentionally shit sets to lOwEr ThE pOwEr LeVeLpeople want to have fun and that only happens when new cards are injected into the game. all the best sets were high power sets that pushed power to new heights, and all the most forgotten sets are the ones trying to deflate power
>>547267475oh yeah, the game is in such a good state after spending 2 years releasing phantom cards to combat power creepare you having more fun now than any time pre-agency nuke?
>>547271262i faced a diaper warrior in wild that discovered ceaseless expanse turn 3 with picreli conceded
>>547263374Just based off this video, how can we have the same shitty song for 11 years? Imagine that. Like, not even remixed, using different instruments, how about an electric keyboard at least with some trumpets? Jazz version, metal version? I know they added another song though. Just would make the game get a new personality with one easy thing.
whoooaa bros i did it! i defeated the expansion!now what?
Can‘t wait for nerfs to find out what old decks will be meta next. My guess is handbuff dk
>>547273904>now what?if you're not already legend, get legendthen farm arena tickets until more content comes out
armor up
>>547274718brilliant ideai havent touched arena since 2015 when i got stomped by handlocks dropping molten giantsNever went back so i just collect them
>>547273904What do you mean? Find a deck you enjoy and have a good time in the game.
>>547275149I did one run with free tickets and ended up with this because I'm the best and drafted like 10 dreadsneed cards
When does miniset release? Jan 4 roughly?
>face aggro huntard>gets me to turn 4>8 health>dredge>board clear>cant draw it>diegood game blizzard
>>547276340first or second week of january I think
did anyone hear about this?>In case you are unaware, a freebie event is coming very soon to Hearthstone! This might well be one of the most awesome events ever in this game.>You get a free coin skin, a free card back, and two free Hero Skins.source reddit, didn't mention when this would happen
>>547278506I haven't heard anything but I just came back to the game recently so...
>>547278506probably around christmas time is my guess
>>547278996why would you do that to yourself
>>547279680Because it's a fun game. There's great potential in this franchise.
>>547269040>I should play 3 classes if i want to winAAAAAAAAA CORAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>547278506Got datamined alreadyhttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Event_Track/Vendor%27s_Bargain_Blowout!
>>547281604There's 4 there, anon.
>>547281963interesting. i think I've missed one month before of win 5 cardbacks since I started I need to go back and buy it with gold maybe and hope I get something I would have never been able to get otherwise. If they still allow that.
is there any hope for inner fire priest in wild in 2025??
>>547285608LOLLMAO evenOur best bet for decks like that is this faggots bring back Twist or make something similar (that they should)
>>547288198twist is starting in less than a monthwe'll see what stupid shit they do this time
Cemented
>>547288370So it's just randomly putting expansions in to a season?
>>547289356YesWhen I did it last it was hard to find anyone to play against, queues took a long time
>>547263374make arena only have 1 mode you can choose to spend gold if spend gold you get rewards if you dont you dont get rewardarena is the only way to make this approachable and way way more fun and fit core of hearthstone wich is random bullshit go
>>547242875 there's something like perfect curve rng bullshit that make tier seem like a bs
I'm having a super rough night. 9 loss streak.
>>547294198take a break and come back later anonyou'll make better plays
Dude the only time I get roped on purpose is when I win with Quest Mage not sure why people get so mad at this when its all bullshit really. Cry moar this deck has like a 48% win rate.
>>547289161You called?
>>547288370anon...
>>547296930don't tell me...they're not doing it?
>>547296997It's been less then a month for like 6 months now, they've completely forgotten about it and just haven't killed it yet because they don't want to explain to investors why theres a bunch of articles about Hearthstone killing a game mode
>>547296997which number does the crocodile eat?
>>547297101Why would they move their fucking asses and do something with it? I mean the idea of old beloved formats was great.
>>547297637If it's static, it doesn't sell new cards and quickly gets solved and boring, the same way classic was 95% Zoolock bots losing games to 4% Miracle Rogues and 1% Wallet Warriors. If they rotate too quickly, no one is going to spend dust on cards that are only good for a month or however long and no one plays.
>16k dust from nerfs>don't need to craft anything since the only meta decks are shells from last year
>>547301329basically, yeahlooking forward to rotation next year when we can actually craft some new decks
Thoughts?
>>547304035Seems a cute meme ngl.
>>547304316I'm rank 700 and pwning noobs with it
>>547304035If you play the lion, does the tree guy get a single dark gift or does it double because of the copy?
>>547294198what deck were you playing anon?
cora RELEASE THE BLOGPOST
i've been playing the same taunt druid deck since the first expansion of this year
>>547315767how has that been going? get a whole bunch of wow emotes?
>>547304035looks annoyingkeep destroying noobs anon
>>547316232it's fun against warriors that can't get past the boardlock state of multiple greybough taunts
>>547304035oooh, so this is what my last warlock opponent was playingI was wondering what the fuck he was trying to do or if he forgot to put his quest in lmao
>don't get copy minion on elise location>lose
>>547319093deck list?
It's unironically wild to check out hsguru and the page just being decks that were tier 3-4 11 months ago are now tier 1-2
>>547302546Lmao. What makes you think they‘ll stop releasing garbage expansions after rotation? The meta will probably just be imbue decks or something
>>547281963sanguine sylvanas and queen azshara here i go
i fucking hate how the "good classes" can heal or gain armors but priest is the worst at doing that shit you cant even be tactical healing with priest and then these retards screaming muh class identities when the only identities they have are just "good" or "bad"tldr kill zeddy and cora
>>547322094uh sweetie, priests identity is hoping you can play aviana cleanly then survive 3 more turns and hope that when you rng uncle tony as your win condition
>>547297101>>547296930guys(x)>1 means more than a month(x)<1 means less than a month
>>547252706### aura# Class: Paladin# Format: Standard# Year of the Raptor## 1x (0) Wisp# 1x (1) Divine Brew# 2x (1) Righteous Protector# 2x (2) Creature of Madness# 2x (2) Hardlight Protector# 1x (3) Whelp of the Infinite# 2x (4) Crusader Aura# 1x (4) Elise the Navigator# 2x (4) Tankgineer# 2x (4) Tigress Plushy# 2x (4) Ursine Maul# 2x (5) Carnivorous Cubicle# 2x (5) Chronological Aura# 1x (5) Spikeridged Steed# 1x (5) Toreth the Unbreaking# 1x (6) Gnomelia, S.A.F.E. Pilot# 1x (7) Anachronos# 1x (8) Gelbin of Tomorrow# 1x (4) Gnomish Aura# 1x (5) Mekkatorque's Aura# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (4) Twin Module# 1x (5) Perfect Module# AAECAbPGBwzHpAbBvwaJ5gbh6wbw/gaCmAfuqAfvqAfwqAfrrAeYsAeKsQcJyaAElfUF0akGiuIGtfoGyP8Gm6kHnakHxK4HAAED9bMGx6QG97MGx6QG7t4Gx6QGAAA=# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstonecarni cube the mech dude or some annoying tauntshad good matchups against everything except protoss priest
you now remember ungoro 2you now remember ungoro minisetyou now remember timeways
>>547324618Thanks. I don't have Toreth, can I just slot in mr Xavius? Toreth doesn't seem load bearing even though he probably makes the 7/7s extremely annoying
honestly this meta is what happens when you refuse to print any fucking win conditions for so long. people just go back to the old ones that actually work
>>547330015toreth + cube is amazingshielding yourself with toreth makes you immune to combo deckshes really really good and won me alot of gamesi would rather put in the orc sleeper taunt instead of xavius to have another good cube target against aggro
HOLY FUCK JUST FUCKING DELETE EVERY SINGLE PROTOSS CARD ALREADY PROTOSS PRIEST HAS BEEN TIER 2 BORDERING ON TIER 1 FOR MONTHS ALREADY JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DELETE IT DELETE IT DELETE IT
when does bulwark of azzinoth rotatethat card is fucking stupid
>>547331837your arcane missiles???
>>547330645Your hostage DH sir ? this deck removes piss priest from match pool
Day 7 of tazing my balls in punishment for taking the quest paladin loaner deck over protoss priest
>>547332931i genuinely have almost no dh cards not racist just dont loik em
>>547333009I took the protoss priest because I dont have the miniset and this gave me the most cards
>>547305298Good question. I'm 90% sure it's only once, but I'll have to check next time I play the deck.
Hs eats my laptop batter 2x faster than megabonk....
>>547285608Combo priest has been a sleeper tier deck for years anon.Then it got killed with the elemental nerf and the superior version that is nazmani.Or nigmani if you wanna be funni and lose.
>have silence in deck>doesnt draw it in first 6 turns>lose to fucking eggfuck this rigged shit
>>547306796Midrange Shaman
>>547339717otk imbue paladin next game with Zarimi btw....
>>547340389next game lose to turboaggro dh with omegahighroll zeph and 2 locationsand next game wins by stealing first egg(egg warrior btw) and silence umbra next egg lolALGO is on i repeat algo is ON
>get diamond 5>hit wall of cycle rogues when did this piece of shit deck start getting played again
20game10 winsevery second game is loseevery lose is Opponent *licky* draws orOpponent shit out of ass discovered shit (Zeph Magtheridon Sissy piss)1 lose was weird I was control board vs piss priest He plays Mothershit(10 mana) and i want to mind control it and instead of playing dragon somehow i play SWruin next to dragon and he kill me next turn with 2 generated rogue sissys(created by single shitHE fucking win with picrel play CARL !Anyway see ya next week
>>547347140Protoss Priest is aids
ambatu do it
>>547347323*counters your play*
the anon who plays dogshit decks and writes blogposts where he malds about losing is my least favorite one
>>547348069stop this.... im hairy one and i post wins alsoim enjoying game btw after i stop caring about rank and metashit deckseven with handmade dogshit deck i can easy mantain 50%wr tnx to rigged algo
>trying to play no minion dh>its fucking ass and i dont enjoy my time with the deck at all>get royaly fcked by a weird priest deck playing an elemental that attacks my face after healing it>he deals 30+ dmg from hand wtf>instantly dust my shitty dh cards>craft his deck>having the most fun ive had in hearthstone in yearswho ever played that deck thank you for bringing it to my attentionfucking kino decki killed a diaper warrior with 60hp from hand with double elementalhe had diamond cards and a 3d skinim fully errect
Get fucked warcuck.Always makes me happy to outfatigue warriors :)
starts brushing with my left handclimb from rank 1000+ to 600 no loses with shaman before that i only play protoss priest btw
>>547349941This is still playable with 6 mana resuscitate?
>>547350083wrong pic. Had to take pic how fucking BAD captchas are now lmao
>>547349941Is whitered priest even that good still?
>>547351446Maybe against shaman, shaman is weak to taunts. Maybe outlives cycle rogue (?). Against warrior and mage it's auto concede.
I didnt get any game against rogue in weeks. I almost forgot that they existjust like HS devs
>>547351696Also I'm sure discover hunter destroys wilted.
Who will be the face of the Monk class?
>>547353641A Panda duh
>>547354745Which panda?
>>547353641chen, then he'll be replaced by an OC tauren
>>547358972I think it'll be Taran Zhu
HOLD ON BROS JUST A FEW MORE MONTHS UNTIL ROTATION
>>547353641Li Li my beloved…
insider heremonk is not coming in 2026
>>547363901She looks like this now
>>547364603insider heremonk is coming in 2026 and you will miss dh and dk releases.
>>547350143>>547350143been getting assfucked by the new tempo/aggro shaman everyone plays, 50/50 against aggro and absolutely free win against all diapeysthey cant do jack shit even getting ratted is good for me since it just mean i can rezz the elemental soonerprobably C tier deck but it feels so good to blast 60+ dmg in one turn
>>547361498>expansion will save us>nerfs will save us>miniset will save us>nerfs will save us>expansion will save us>nerfs will save us>miniset will save us>nerfs will save us>expansion will save us>nerfs will save uswe are here>miniset will save us>nerfs will save us>rotation will save us>nerfs will save us>miniset will save us>nerfs will save us
Wallow carrying me to high legend, actually decent deck
>>547370139post code
>>547370270### Wallow# Class: Warlock# Format: Standard# Year of the Raptor## 2x (0) Cursed Catacombs# 2x (1) Conflagrate# 2x (1) Glacial Shard# 2x (1) Rotheart Dryad# 2x (1) Scarab Keychain# 2x (2) Avant-Gardening# 2x (2) Creature of Madness# 2x (2) Eat! The! Imp!# 2x (3) Raptor Herald# 2x (3) Sketch Artist# 1x (4) Nightmare Lord Xavius# 2x (4) Shadowflame Stalker# 2x (4) Treacherous Tormentor# 1x (6) Bob the Bartender# 1x (7) Wallow, the Wretched# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (2) Haywire Module# 1x (5) Perfect Module# 2x (10) Table Flip# AAECAa35AwTHpAbkggfDgwfblwcN054Gy58GmrMGibUGlMoGnvkGtfoG34IHjoMHw4cHqYgHhJkH9qcHAAED8bMGx6QG97MGx6QG6N4Gx6QGAAA=# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
the bg content update can't be too far away can it
>>547369851THEY SAY A MINISET COULD SAVE USIM NOT GONNA STAND HERE AND WAAAAAIT
>>547370967Do you mean a new expansion?>>547370378Nice thx
>December BG update>January miniset>February BG anomalies >March 4 rotation/expansion
its actually crazy how broken control warrior is and nobody seems to care
>>547369851What about new class?
>>547371785Play protoss mage, owl druid or biopod hunter, ezpz
>>547370378silly question, do you avoid dropping the dryad right away to prevent getting your wallow dirty ratted?
>>547373203I mean, not many people play rat. But I guess. You could also tutor out the Wallow by discovering the +4/5 gift, makes you draw him in 2 turns. You can do that while it is in your hand and it shuffles in, might let you dodge rat. Warrior is hard anyway, too much armor.
>>547373652In that matchup you might also consider Bob-ing his quest reward and scamming a win that way incase you can't reach with the Wallow OTK.
What's the purpose of the Youthful Brewmaster in Discover Hunter? It seems extremely clunky, wouldn't something like the 1/3 murloc that generates a rock be better?
>>547374026The AOE fabled card is the strongest card in the whole expansion.
>>547373652im only in plat but i've ran into dk and warrior running rats, has ruined a few games.>>547374026extra procs of the elf slut sisters.
>>547369851objectively speaking, it's pretty hard for things to get worse than they are right now, 6 set standard sucks balls
It was nice playing control warrior before every 2nd game became a mirror, especially because half of those mirrors end up as autolosses because some shitters want to run murzond
>>547378721One, go fuck yourself for playing Control Warrior, and two, Murzond is the best version of the deck for the guaranteed OTK
>>547378653Things are bad because they refuse to make good sets out of fear of powercreep. Rotation isn‘t gonna change that>>547378721>play op deck>surprised other people also pick up op deck
>>547369851TRVTH NVKE
>>547369851hot women playing hearthstone will save ushot art on cards will save usgoonstone will save us
>>547372028it might save the game but not /hsg/I remember the 24/7 seething when DH and DK released, people were complaining nonstop
>>547381278i was hoping they would take a page out of marvel rivals success and give us some more gooner bait. UNNERF JAINA YOU WHORES
>>547382520they're still trying to play it safe due to the bullshit from a few years ago.i think they will turn it around and make some good shit again
>>547382520>>547387386>>547381278Did you guys see the new OW bitch? I think sexiness in general is coming back to videogames.
>>547389814i havent paid attention to OW since the first gameall I can say is HELL YEAH BROTHER
>>547379391sorry for playing good decks in ranks you will never reach
>>547340290probably lost 2 or 3 and got tilted. gotta make sure you space out your threats, you have endless waves of moderate bodies so it always feels horrible to aoe remove any of your boards, and spot removal is useless since every card makes 2+ bodiesand always count up lethal between board and hand, the deck has surprisingly good burst for cora's shitty nudesign
>>547340290I play 'toss mage against them and seem to win most of the time
I like this Herenless Talanji version a lot more. It plays faster and isn't as highrolly, but also avoids the usual Herenn + double Wakener in hand that happens so often. It feels a lot leaner.### Talanji# Class: Death Knight# Format: Standard# Year of the Raptor## 2x (1) Orbital Moon# 2x (1) Scarab Keychain# 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler# 2x (2) Infested Breath# 2x (2) Poison Breath# 2x (2) Vampiric Blood# 2x (2) Wild Pyromancer# 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron# 1x (3) Portal Vanguard# 1x (4) Elise the Navigator# 2x (4) Memoriam Manifest# 1x (4) Nightmare Lord Xavius# 1x (4) Talanji of the Graves# 1x (6) Bwonsamdi# 1x (3) What Befell Zandalar# 2x (5) Corpse Explosion# 1x (7) Endbringer Umbra# 1x (8) Shaladrassil# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (4) Twin Module# 1x (5) Perfect Module# 1x (125) The Ceaseless Expanse# AAECAaK+BgrHpAaq6gaSgwfDgweCmAf1mAeSpAf3qgf7qgf8qgcKodQEh/YEy58G/7oG3+UG5uUG4eoGgf0GvJQHkasHAAED9bMGx6QG97MGx6QG7t4Gx6QGAAA=# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
I crashed out so hard I went from 500 to 4000 today. I think I am finally done with the game. last game I ended up losing against a fucking imbue paladin.
>>547400471You know what to do, loser-kun.Is time.Is the only solution.
>>547398578I think Umbra is dogshit in Bwonsamdi decks, especially since Bwonsamdi likes to summon deathrattles himself which dilutes the pool even furtherKJ is propably better, or at the very least MarinShala propably not good enough either since you have onl one card to corrupt it. I like Kerrigan in that slot instead.Could maybe cut the one vanguard for an ancient of yore to have more cards that synergise with orbital moon but maybe the barons are enough.Other cards to consider would be tech stuff like rat, husk, blob of tar and pterrodax. I know you can't play it all, just stuff to keep in mind.
>>547394074protoss mage is pretty heavily unfavored into midrange shamanshaman's whole plan is build a board of medium size creatures, which mage cannot handle effectively. single target removal forces you to 2 for 1 yourself since all the shaman minions summon multiple bodies for 1 card, you don't run aoe, and sleet skater is useless since freezing a 5/5 when they have 4 other 5/5s is a bad playnot saying you dont' win, but that speaks to your opponents stupidity more than your choice of deck
>>547400471I feel you anon. I've never been that high but I crashed out pretty hard a week or so ago and just got into legend today at 9600. by far the lowest I've ever been, usually get in around 5kthere was one guy I played when I was like diamond 3 or 4 who added me, he was plat 10
>>547401445I think Umbra is still a decent refill though I'll give Marin a try for a bit, I think KJ isn't enough to get you there against decks that can survive all the Bwonsamdis.Shala is just there to activate Elise honestly, and some extra reach here and there which can be alright.The yore might be a good idea though, I feel like sometimes you really need a bit more card draw here.
hsgcemented...
>>547412313>>547296885
what the actual fuck is this azure sindragosa deck ? 30+ face dmg turn 9?
>>547416812It's absolute dogshit unless it hits exactly Watercolor on 3 to start discounting Buy One, Get One Freeze and then the discount dragon on 5 or 6 at the latest to self activate and then play it's entire hand in hopes of finding something productive to do
>>547416975well it was my first match vs this deck and it happened, so it can’t be that rare or am I just really unlucky?
>>547417131also I had full board lethal next turn 30hp and he just started spawning dragons and hitting my face with spells until I died
>>547417131The odds of hitting a 2 of in your deck by turn 3 even with a full mull for it is not great, they need to not die while hoarding cards for the pop off turn, and they need to find a specific legendary on turn 5 but at least can try to tutor it with the portal dude. It's a bad deck that can highroll occasionally but even if it hit's it's perfect draw to get the combo off, it's not a guaranteed game winner.
>>547416812good players do it on 5-6
they can also discover the dragon with xavius, get the 2/2 dupe and then it actives itself twice instantlyhappened to me once
When they will kill this fucking Shaman-Warrior-Hunter meta? Is getting fucking boring already
>>547389814woman appreciator bros...we're back
>>547427041ABSOLUTELY based
>>547426669take the wallow pill
>>547389814they realized you don't have to go full dyke to be woke. As long as you keep the hot bitches in ratio you're doing alright.
>>547371785i just lost to control warrior with two brewmaster it bounce bob and ceaseless im so fuckin done
>>547416812its shitty version unnerfed fyrakk rogueBasically Yogg spin
Are we going to get an Overwatch collab someday?
>>547434969i think so. and then the year after other microsoft owned properties like Halo, maybe even bethesda stuff like Fallout and Skyrim.
>>547434969I hope we dont desuotherwise we're just going to have a repeat of the Starcraft crossover with a shitty meta and starships for another year and 1/2
FUCKING BABBIT WITH THE 4 MINION BOARD WIN
>>547434969probably, i bet it's an entire expansion instead of miniset though
Fabled bros...
ban dark gift from arena completely what the FUCK is this faggot shit
>>547443682every single match is decided by a busted dark gift minion
>>547443982every single match is decided by a misplay that fucks one player up
>>547444934as a high legend gamer I'd say misplays are responsible for maybe 1 in 5 of my lossesThat is to say, my winrate might be 10% higher if I always took the pockettrain lines. But then I'd climb to ranks where I don't get gifted as many wins from opponents' misplays so less than that
>>547449271what would you say decides a majority of your wins then?
>>547451147Matchup then being on the coin vs play then draw then misplays then pure RNG (ie Discover a random card, not Discover from your deck which I'm counting under draw)t. ~800ish legend before I started throwing games to complete quests because my wild MMR is now high enough I'm facing the 40HP value pile bullshit decks and losing games there is even more frustrating
>>546850920Should I craft this secret mage deck? I'm quite low on dust since I started the game again after a few years, It's a legend deck from last year apparently, I like the idea of something not meta but is it still effective? I only play Wild btw
>>547455954You'll climb easily but it's the most boring on rails shit possible
>>547456404What's a fun deck that's not too expensive? I play Warlock, Mage (and Rogue)
>>547456523>fun deck that's not too expensive>in HS
Good deck to get to Diamond 5 fast?
>>547458931literally any aggroslop, pala, hunter, DH etc.
>facing nothing but russians and barcodes on EU server>losing every second match>boot Nvidia GeForcenow>changed Nvidia server to US>climbed from d10 to d6 in 40 mins>zero russians or chink names>opponents play very shit Makes you think.... they fucking track your deck mull draws win/lose AND physical locationLook at this nigger who plays draw prot minion and reveal Dirty rat food....
>>547429204I unironically thank BG3 for showing devs the secret is just to make eye candy for everybody and then you can't be blamed.>>547427041God I love elves so much.
this is so ridiculously OPi like how DH always has these busted ass T1 decks but nobody really gives a fuck about the class so who cares
>>547461875you can kill it for 3 mana btw...
>skipped literally 8 turn>nigger pop off>1 mana whole hand>Gain million armor>Rat other sissysimple strat just skip 7 turns
priest is the only class where mana cheat feels so fuckin shit im so sure they give priest mana cheat so they could point at priest and say mana cheat is not the problem
>>547469575You must not have been around for nazmani priest
Holy fuck starship rogue is so free into warrior.
Is anyone else having reconnect pop ups?
>>547472431yeah the game is shitting itself
>rat on 3>pull elise>win
>cut the one corpse explosion in control DK>run double unholy runes instead>get to play fun cards like assimilating blight>it actually wins me a game against control warriorwinning with your own takes on archetypes is the only way to have fun in this game
Is protoss priest worth crafting? I know it's aids but I am in the mood to play some priest.
>>547476909it's probably still viable but it was completely abandoned after the nerfs
>>547476909It's pretty mid but probably the best thing you can do in priest right nowEither that or Zarimi, both decks are rotating in a couple months tho so be warnedYou could also craft the control / aviana priest which isn't going to lose much but it's not very good and pretty difficult
>>547476375You can also run steamcleaner and win the matchup by default
>>547478132yeah but then I'd have to run steamcleaner, also they can sorta play around it by just drawing a lot after they play quest also also you can still lose to timewarp in hand
>play starship rogue>immediately queue into npcs playing arena decks like dragon warrior>>547478267You can never guarantee a 100% matchup but running steamcleaner is as close as you can get vs warrior
>>547451147the hands you get obviously
>>547474612>rat on 2>pull sissy 10+ mana>dies because take too much damage
>>547478612timewarp and dino is scripted by algoif you lose you lose....
I saw this on Reddit. People are actually complaining about buying things in the store.
>queue for tavern brawl>it's rigged>requeue for brawl>it's rigged>requeue for brawl>it's rigged>requeue for brawl>opponent is afk, i win for free>queue for standard>it's rigged>requeue for standard>it's rigged>requeue for standard>it's riggedthis game is AWESOME
>>547434969Starcraft wasn't even bad it was actually awesome but they just let it go on and on far beyond when anyone wanted it. Overwatch has tons of cool characters that make for insane legendaries so I would enjoy it. Rewind makes Tracer a viable card now!
>"I NEVER MAKE TWO TRI-">escape->concede before the battlecry finishesreally is that simple
Reynard is playing his own game on twitch right now.He sucks lol.
>>547271262>>547271262Heh greetings left him at one to bm after a lethal ignis combo
I'm tired of games being decided by turn 5. Before this meta games dragged on for too long. Why is it so hard for Blizzard to balance around medium?
If you had to bet what theme you think will be the next expansion?
>>547502468Considering Monk is coming 100% some Chinese/Pandaria garbage that will make the meta a (more) inssuferable hell.
>>547502468League of Explorers 5: Electric Boogaloo
>>547502468https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak_MTXQALa0&list=RDAk_MTXQALa0&start_radio=1
>queue arena>MMR too high>every second game is standard cardback no golden cards or hero power insane deck played by a guy thinking hard every turn>play standard>MMR too high>can't have fun being forced to play vs shaman and hunter every game
>>547507552>smurf account>have to face 300 bots before gettting a real game
nothing more satisfying to hear than I YIELD —FOR NOW
I honestly hope these retards at blizzard do something with mage because this is simultaneously a nigh unplayable class and at the same time one of the most unfun classes to play against in the whole game.
>>547455954Ok that deck was trash, and I regret spending dusts on it. After I realized that, I started playing Pirate Rogue instead and I just hit Legend for the first time in my life kek. Not sure what to do now, should I uninstall? Did I beat the game?
>>547517321What do you mean? The game begins at Legend
They better not make another deck like protoss mage.
>>547520653Remember when they said "board will matter again" a while ago?Hunter kills you from hand with no boardMage kills you form hand with no boardCycle rogue kills you from hand with no boardAny timewarp deck kills you from hand with no boardetc.
I got Hearthstone finally working on my phone. Logging in was such a pain in the ass.
>>547521581You literally beat those decks through board
I CAN'T STAND SHAMAN AND WARRIOR ANYMOREWHEN THEY WILL KILL THIS SHIT FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>547525341Calm down. Protoss fags are much worse.
this is your meta btweverything in a red circle is built around OTKing you from full with no boardthis is well more than half the meta
>>547525341t. Hunter
>>547526426Cliff Dive DH isn't built around OTK'ing you, it's mainly built around slapping you with a bunch of tempo tools with the OTK being far too inconsistent to be anything other then a funny meme. They don't even run any way to shuffle the Inquisitors back into their deck which would be essential to give the OTK any sense of guarantee
>>547526426Most of those decks don‘t have an otk as their primary win condition
>>547526426No they're not, what you're complaining about is all of those decks are solitaire which is true.
OUT OF MY JUNGLE
>>547526426>this is your meta btwnot until december 1st I can just have fun with meme decks in legend for now
>>547521581and Niri hunter buffs board to astronomical numbersand shaman have total 30/30 board on t6and egglock have 20/20 on t5and dk just spam leeched untill your hp is 10and paladin spam murlocs untill his board full of 10/10 (nerfed)and aura niggers just scam you with shartaurasThats no board thats pure scam decksHS literally devolved to scam vs otk matches
Zarimi Priest has a big learning curve. I'm getting filtered.
I made a meme deck and I'm trying to make it work.The deck is entirely aggro and blood elf themed and it's based around buffing and divine shielding your minions in order to be annoying as possible.Every minion is a Blood Elf or something Blood Elf themed (like a phoenix or golem).Yes, I am this autistic enough to make a deck with a losing record just to do blood knight bullshit### blood elf meme# Class: Paladin# Format: Wild## 2x (1) Righteous Protector# 2x (1) Sanguine Soldier# 2x (2) Cult Neophyte# 2x (2) Fallen Sun Cleric# 2x (2) For Quel'Thalas!# 2x (2) Great Hall# 2x (2) Hand of A'dal# 2x (2) Mana Addict# 2x (2) Shroomscavate# 2x (3) Arcane Golem# 2x (3) Hold the Bridge# 2x (3) Seal of Blood# 2x (3) Silvermoon Portal# 2x (4) Blessing of Kings# 2x (4) Fire Plume Phoenix# AAEBAYsWAA8M0gOvB5nOAsmgBPSkBIyDBauTBYGWBYOWBbWeBtCeBs6wBofmBsutBwAA# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
>>547550940needs that 5 mana legendary that makes your bubbles require 3x hits to pop
>>547551018That's a good idea (though he is a night elf)
does anyone play this shit itt?
>>547525706you can just bonk protoss mage with either aggro or rat the 9/4s to oblivion, the deck is fucked thenprotoss priest isn't even good anymore and protoss rogue is a meme, protoss druid never even worked outside of the location gimmick, why are you seething about this?
>>547550940>blood elf>Culf Neophyte>Shroomsso your elves are fanatic and lsd junkies ?
>>547557624>so your elves are fanatic and lsd junkies?yes, just like in TBC when they were mana crack addicts
>>547550940you are one of the few mentally healthy people in this game btw
i remember when reddit made deck full of gnomes.... sexy gnomesMy favorite gnome card btw
>>547559889blood elves keep me sane and they are fun
>>547562514I found it...
>>547562514i like that them overshilling nemsy completely killed any appetite people had for female gnome skins
>steal thijs' shaman list>5-1 and the loss was a disconnectLmeow
>>547556727I usually play BGs, but right now you have buddies (which are horrible and just make character choice even more important than it already was) and anomalies (LMAO RANDOM) so I'm not touching it until the new season
>>546850920Is there a way to play the older solo adventures without buying an account?
>>547575138did they actually nuke them, i thought you get them from buying old adventures
I posted my Wallow list here a few days back and have optimized the list I think. Turns out Elise is a good card.
### Wallow# Class: Warlock# Format: Standard# Year of the Raptor## 2x (0) Cursed Catacombs# 2x (1) Conflagrate# 2x (1) Glacial Shard# 2x (1) Rotheart Dryad# 2x (2) Avant-Gardening# 2x (2) Creature of Madness# 2x (2) Eat! The! Imp!# 2x (3) Raptor Herald# 2x (3) Sketch Artist# 1x (4) Elise the Navigator# 1x (4) Nightmare Lord Xavius# 2x (4) Shadowflame Stalker# 2x (4) Treacherous Tormentor# 1x (6) Bob the Bartender# 1x (7) Wallow, the Wretched# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (4) Twin Module# 1x (5) Perfect Module# 2x (10) Table Flip# 1x (125) The Ceaseless Expanse# AAECAa35AwbHpAaq6gbkggfDgwfblweCmAcM054GmrMGibUGlMoGnvkGtfoG34IHjoMHw4cHqYgHhJkH9qcHAAED9bMGx6QG97MGx6QG6N4Gx6QGAAA=# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
the absolute state of arena right now
>>547579057shaman is fun times
>>547579057druidGODS, how the FUCK did this happen to us..
Elise to 6 mana when
my control warrior opponent running location tech, sure
>>547585084Cringe, Elise is FUN.
>>547585945Yea broken neutral cards are so fun
>>547579057>>547582736we need to go lower20% winrate is the goal
>>547582736no arbor up no park panther no drum circle
>>547590256>a bunch of cards that were mid to good 7 years ago
>>547592020the oldest card I mentioned is 5 years old, retard
>>547578152I GOT YOU JBLEV!!!
>>547598462that aint me mayne
>the double leech spell at 5 is still bustedfuck DK
Which Demon Hunter deck should I craft?
holy shit fuck "checkmate hearthstone"and fuck Mechgineer oh my god what a piece of shit getting two oozes in opening 8 cards unlimited 7/7 with divine shield spamsPaladin is really obnoxious again if anyone wants a stupid tier one deck a monkey could legend.
>>547605874none, they are all trash. peddler is 'good'; both of the agro decks are the same 28 cards from last expansion so you should already have them
>>547605874Peddler is the most fun and decently viable, you actually have to sequence your cards correctly and you get to discover a bunch + make sticky boards.
bg update DOKO
>>547593048>he thinks cards printed in 1989 will save us
>people want Elise nerfedwhat is even the endgame here? play with exclusively 2024 cards until rotation and then when rotation hits just play core set stuff?
>>547617835i mean I get it, powerful neutrals like fyrakk and elise make the game very same same game to game. the other thing is 'i need the location to give me this option' and not getting it while your opponent does get it.
>>547617835The endgame is not having neutral cards that are in every fucking deck. Zilliax should have been nuked a long while ago too
>>547618471>>547618996its fine for one neutral legendary that does a pretty generic value thing to be used in many decks honestly. it also keeps decks cheaper and makes the f2p experience bettercomplaining about something like Elise when control warrior exists in its current form is just ridiculous
>>547619112Hearthstone has never been more f2p friendly and if you can‘t keep yourself from dusting half your collection every time you see a new deck you‘re a retard and design choices should not be made with you in mind. Auto-include neutrals have always made the game more boring. Just look at renathalstone during nathria
>win a 30 minute "uninstall the game because i lost this" game with protoss mage>algorithm rigs me about 5 losses in a row as punishment
>>547620864good
>>547619542renathal was ten times more gamewarping and pretending Elise is on that level is a joke. renathal was a whole archetype, Elise is somebody you consider slotting in if the deck you've made has the manacosts for it because she's generically good but not overbearing. if she was that overbearing people would tech in demo
>>547624335>if she was that overbearing people would tech in demoNo, if she was that overbearing people would play her in almost every deck which is what‘s happening already. Pretty sure she has a higher playrate than renathal too
>>547624335not to mention renathal is still affecting the game today by being in most wildychud decks.
>arena game starts>priest first play imbues hero power>arena game endsdid the transexual devs of this game do this on purpose or was it an accident?
Does anyone know how Blizzard balances this game?My wild Pirate cannon deck was super nerfed and yet, I have hit legend the past like..6 months with it and have NEVER faced a single similar deck to mine.Why the nerf on the coin weapon and 5/3 miniture reduce 3 cost?
Almost time for a new thread
>>547633618blizzard does not balance wild retard
>>547633618because they hate us wild playersbut in actuality it's nerfs for standard which in turn affects wild.simple as
I wonder what all those people that mained quest mage and protoss priest went, what did they transition into
>be me>dragon warrior>discover dracorex with elusive and +2/2 from 2 damage spell>dk dirty rats turn 3>summons dracorex>punish him in 2 turns>he diesblizzard gave me a break it seems
>>547641063Shaman
We're so back
>>547643981>2025 had no good expansi-ACKemerald dream WON
I tried Peddler Demon Hunter. I'm pretty bad at it, but I can tell that the deck is good. Any tips, /hsg/?
>we live in a world where dark gifts were the best recent expansion gimmickbeyond grim
im pretty sure that mesmile could've won against that warrior if he used that 2 mana spell summon leech on that 4/2 rush gnome
I refuse to craft cards that will die in few months… what to do?
>>547655287he did win against that warrior 30 minutes ago
>>547657271platinum rank anon thinks he knows how to play a 30 turn control mirror better than rank 4 legend
>>547635007They literally keep making adjustments to random wild cards though don't they
>>547635007not the first time I've heard someone insist that blizzard doesn't balance wild a week after wild specific balance changes went out.
>>547663273fuck off retard that mesmile got stupid that game and start doing misplayhe fucking lost that game against that warriorhe missed 4 damage from mage wild god because he didn't use that spell on that gnome which will leave warrior on 1 hp and leech will suck that shit holy fucking retard hsg
>>547666838nobody asked esl tardo
>>547666892why do i need someone to ask fucking tard hsg keep grinding fuck tard
>>547643981where steamcleaner
why do people just drop out of college or leave their jobs to pursue a career in a children's card game? someone explain so a monkey brain like me can understand, there are PLENTY of people that have done this and i fail to understand why
>>547667115because they think they can
>>547667115They stream hearthstone because they dropped out of college, not the other way around. Any of them that tell you otherwise are coping.
>>547667115Some of them make way more money than they ever would working a normal job. In HS, the only example is probably Thijs and maybe Kripp? But for other games, some of the streamers are a runaway success.
Rankings of the best Hearthstone expansions?
>>547667785S Tier: my favorite expansionsF Tier: your favorite expansions
>>547668057howeverthoughbeit my favourite expansions are your favourite expansions
NEW BREAD>>547668572>>547668572>>547668572
>>547624335Yeah if she was that overbearing people would play wisp just to activate- OH WAIT LMAO
>>547633618>>547665731Those were changes for standard though, your wild deck was just a collateral. Just pray Cora will be merciful enough to revert these cards once they rotate.
>>547669131Bro they nerfed Holy Wrath and Malcheezar's Imp
>>547669694Nobody cares about these cards except the sweatiest tryhards though
>>547670173Fascinating, its still some effort to balance wild
>>547663273lolol, nigger, everybody past gold plays the same decks and rank doesn't mean shit
