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>PTS 11.0 patch notes:
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https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes

>September Community update
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/278-september-community-update

>Year 2 Roadmap:
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>Where to get the game:
https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2

>Lore Stuff:
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general

>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):
Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.

>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview

>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/

>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):
https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg

>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:
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>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:
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>Other useful links:
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Previously on the Battle-barge: >>546147638
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I think I found an image of the proto-Dude Wall saved on my PC.
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>>546864816
They must be exceptionally good fighters because otherwise they would not be able to defeat space marines.
If all you need for a "regular person" to defeat a space marine is some training then that also makes space marines so weak that there would be no reason to ever waste the vast amount of resources and recruits required to create and maintain them in the first place.
It either makes sisters of silence examples of retarded mary sue writing like grey knights or it makes space marines examples of retarded writing for being such a waste of resources. Space marines cannot justify their existence if they are rivaled by entire units of completely mundane human equals.
>we kill hundreds of potential recruits who are themselves powerful warriors through training and body modification over the course of years to create one special dude and we give him super expensive special armor and weapons
>also he loses to some girl that knows how to use a sword
>why not cut out all the other bullshit and just teach the dude how to use a sword then?
>uhhhhhhhh
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>>546865292
Nice. We've come a long way since the first Dude Wall.
I think I've got the other versions saved somewhere too.
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>>546866223
I don't think it's ever been explicitly stated, but the SoS are implied to have had some gene forging done to them due to there being active sisters with ages well into the hundreds of centuries, beyond what typical life prolonging treatments can offer.
Plus, it's a little hard to properly kill something you can't really focus on, especially when that thing causes you to have a blinding migraine if you have even the barest hint of paychic power. Hell, during the siege there was one sister whose powers were so strong she was literally invisible to everyone that wasn't also a blank and Kharn killed her by accident and had a moment where he was completely confused as to why his kill counter went up.
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>>546866223
I don't like it lore wise anymore than you. However, every single piece of lore exists as a vehicle for the protag faction took cool, or strong in order to sell models AND represents dice rolls on the TT where anything (in theory) goes.

Custodes has a good chance to wipe multiple squads of guard or cultists without taking casualties and in most cases will. Yet I have seen them get drowned in shots anyway and blasted by artillery out of their range.

I have seen Tau mech's that should wipe the table fail save rolls on a single incoming shot and 'blow up' on turn 2 without ever actually killing anything and auto losing the game for the Tau guy.

In fantasy, Skarbrand was killed and banished by a single unit of imperial halberd infantrymen due to shit rolls and it is literally now canon of WHFB's that he did. A greater daemon of khorne lost to some plucky veterans of a renaissance empire using sharp metal sticks on poles.

So depending on from whose perspective the lore is written and/or the shit tier knowledge of the writer - all kinds of stupid shit can and is published as lore. Warhammer lore exists to add flavour to TT and always has been.
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>>546867145
The lore and the tabletop can never be directly connected because everyone's fates being tied to dicerolls means no named character ever survives more than a couple encounters, much less thousands of years of them. Nothing could ever be described as "hard to kill" or "durable" or "not armored exclusively with rice paper".
The setting itself literally does not function if tabletop is considered an accurate representation of it in any way.
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>>546867727
It is and you are a nufag.
Every single game, every single outcome within them is canon. If the models ever had rules then there is an argument that it is lore accurate an ork boy killed Guilliman.

There is the 'canon lore' ie the general story the TT represents in the outset and then the result of *YOUR* game is canon, forever. What is published after is just that particular timeline GW decides the setting sticks too. GW has been explicit about this. They provide structure but ultimately the end result of conflicts are your own head canon unless otherwise stated outright.

Unfortunately tourists and nufags take advantage of this and extend the concept to the whole setting. Now can a SoS kill a SM? Maybe. Probably not. If one did that does not equate it being automatic next time. Just like a Tau cannot snipe the Lion - in theory. That doesn't mean female space marines are on the table. Just that weird outcomes of combat can and does occur. That is before the in world explanation of daemonic or xenos trickery etc.

I mean eldarfgas have been mad for 20+ years their Shards of Khaine are glorified punching bags, losing fights that should not be possible to lose.
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Why did they bring out a horde mode then immediately abandon it?

this shit could have its only progression system and be awesome. Didnd even bother to add a leaderboard for highest rounds done.
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>>546869008
Being capable of critical thinking doesn't make someone a newfag.
The setting doesn't function if tabletop is how the setting plays out, the tabletop regularly plays out so incredibly differently than the setting that it is in practice an alternate setting.
There is no named character that survives more than a couple battles if tabletop is accurate, that's just simple math. Kharn gets shanked by a gretchin with a rusty knife, every primarch gets sniped by some random goon in some random brawl before the emperor even finds them, the emperor himself gets domed by a nobody with a ghetto blaster at some point in the tens of thousands of years he's been alive before he does anything important.
The setting logically doesn't fucking work if everyone's canonically rolling dice, this is the case with every one of these settings attached to a tabletop game, everyone with a prefrontal cortex agrees that the tabletop game doesn't represent the setting because the game is full of abstractions and inaccuracies that it make it literally impossible to accurately represent the setting it's named after.
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>>546869008
calm your tism, normal people can handle two lines of contradictory thoughts at the same time, its a british past time
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What was the maintenance for
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>>546866381
>>546865292
Ok, I've got a longer version of the one you posted. There also a 110 MB version so I have to find some hosting website for a file this big.
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>>546874075
patch soon fellow stalker
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>>546874451
Another one. An Anon >>546874210 posted the previous version. Pic related is from when Dude Wall handed over by previous Wall Anon in September last year.
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>>546865292
Nice.
I got this one.
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>>546865292
>>546875330
A later version of >>546875330
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>>546875413
This is all I have and I believe that pic related was made prior to >>546875413
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>repeat of the very first weekly
Let's see if I've gotten any better since these things were introduced.
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I am Mortifying this thread.
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>>546870265
>put in leaderboard
>list instantly filled with glitching retards getting up to wave 999 just to look cool or have their silly username in everyone's faces
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>>546883110
>glitching getting up to wave 999
non-player detected
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>>546883737
Have you not played a game with leaderboards before? Racing games are infested with -2140727489242 second lap times.

There is no hard cap to Siege waves. There is simply a timer you can't beat by Wave 40 through normal means.
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>>546884043
>There is no hard cap to Siege waves. There is simply a timer you can't beat by Wave 40 through normal means.
And there's another cap you'd know if you played the game. now begone shitposter
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>>546884280
>Space Marine 2 magically has protections against integer overflow when someone starts fucking with text files
Your understanding of game logic is akin to a jungle tribal spotting an aircraft for the first time. There is no game with a leaderboard, not one, that hasn't been fucked six ways to Sunday.
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>>546864382
Needs some adjustments. For a moment, that dreadnought's legs turn back into dude's legs.
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>>546883737
To be honest, it all depends on how hands-on Saber would like to be with policing the game. Considering that they do fuck all, probably not much. Forza Horizon games get thousands of top spots on every leaderboard for any activity filled with those who hacked or exploited to get their score, and devs only ban those who cheat in pvp races.
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STRAP A MELTA TO MY HEEL, BROTHER

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2htK7h8nfQ0
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Is Obelisk just RNG whether or not you get the Gene-Seed? I got the right-hand route and I didn't find any Gene-Seed at all
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block multimelta that can expend the adrenaline charges when it fires
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I think they should just remove neurothropes from the game
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>>546898168
You can have some of my gene seed
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>>546905781
>balanced
fastest iron halo regen
>fencing
stronger stomp and gunstrike damage, slower iron halo regen
>block
stronger iron halo explosion aoe, stacks with the perk and adrenaline rush, slowest iron halo regen
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>let assault target enemies that are in the air with its jetpack slams
there, I fixed the class
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Some pics that focus dropped today. Not much to go on I guess, but it's better than nothing.
11.0 update is still scheduled to hit on 25th and the community update more than likely a day or two after.
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>>546909031
Still an instant kick.
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>>546910626
new winged prime enemy? Cool
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Straban is the best character in the game.
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>>546909031
Charged Hammer attacks on the ground is able to hit Zoanthropes, but I have no idea if the Fist/Chainsword/Power Sword can. I'd still rather engage in melee with Vanguard or Tactical over him though
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>>546910626
>gigachad.jpg
>goodest_boy.jpg
>today
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>>546910626
I'll always be laughing at that helmet. Hilarious shit. I'd like to see the face of the person who finished the model, looked at it and went "DA, dis is good work!"
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>>546886261
>your understanding of game logic is akin to a jungle tribal spotting an aircraft for the first time
That made me fucking laugh, how will he ever recover from this
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>>546914343
? i stopped responding to him because he has no idea what he's talking about.
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>>546912654
Ayoo Ja'vulkan. Where da Sistas uh Battle at?
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Okay, I've made my Red Scorpion as racist as possible. How do I display my sense of superiority within game and show my displeasure of other marines. I already throw frags at my teammates when they're about to get sniped
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>>546911010
You fight two of them as boss enemies.
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>>546919212
>show my displeasure of other marines
You’re already earning my displeasure with your ESL english usage
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>>546919624
sounds like somebody reads at a 4th grade level
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>>546911004
>kicking the best class to deal with swarms of Chaos Spawn
>kicking the class that can shitstomp any Extremis with 2 ability charges
>kicking the class that can deal 50-60% of a terminus health bat by himself except neuros
NGMI brother
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>>546919725
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>very first hard strat
>no one cares anymore and folks just skipped it
lmao saber btfo
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>>546921458
>grok is this real
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>>546921915
It’s correct though
Only someone who didn’t grow up using English as their first language would think that “my displeasure of X” sounds natural. It immediately sounds off to anyone who has it as their first language. Hope this helps.
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>>546922834
It's grammatically correct, I'm sorry your public school failed you.
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Would you play a stealth action game where you play as Kasrkin team on a mission to assassinate or sabotage something?
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>>546923445
No it is not. Pic related is from the Oxford dictionary. As I have now provided several sources backing up my claim that it is not grammatically correct, the burden of proof is now upon you to provide sources that prove me otherwise.
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>>546923445
A faggot he may be, but you're still wrong and all you're doing is showcasing the stereotypical confident stupidity that SEAmonkeys and beans are notorious for.
You stick your fingers in your ears and shout "lalalala I'm right and you're wrong" when people point out that 1+1 does not, in fact, equal 5.
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>>546923743
Raven Guard or bust. I want a game that repeats the mechanics of Splinter Cell: Conviction without the stigma of changing a past formula.
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>>546919212
We've already got the most racist astartes up on the dude wall though
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Take your faggotfuck Reddit grammar arguments elsewhere.
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>>546923890
At and of are synonyms you high school dropout.
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>>546924185
I'm sorry, I know they're the sneaky boy marines but the idea of gigantic superhumans wearing massive power armor with actual exhaust coming out the back being at all stealthy is just ridiculous. Kasrkin are at least smaller and don't wear loud armor.
And that's not even mentioning the whole stealthy bolt gun, which is practically an oxymoron.
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>>546924968
.... No they aren't.
If you said Emperor at Mankind, id laugh your ass out of the room.
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>>546925148
>words can only have one meaning
You're really showcasing your IQ here
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>>546924998
Raven Guard canonically have customized armor to dampen noise and suppress their heat signature alongside just having the innate supernatural ability to avoid being detected by animal instincts. I don't see how this is any more ludicrous than space vampires or space werewolves.
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>>546925209
Then you should have said they CAN be synonyms. Saying that they just are implies they always are.
Now go say your prayers to Gork and Mork.
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>>546924968
They’re not synonyms you fucking retard, they’re two different prepositions. Do you even know what a preposition is?
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>>546925209
inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>546907774
>Neurothrope gets instantly raped by a Tactical or Sniper before it has a chance to become a problem
Or
>you spend the next five minutes taking unavoidable damage from frametraps until you either beat the Neurothrope by a cunt hair or eat shit and die
There is no in-between.
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>>546927286
Most Tacticals don't know that the Stalker bolter plus Auspex can make short work of Neurothropes and most pubs run Plasma Incinerators or Pyreblasters on Tyranid missions

No one plays Sniper much less any of them realizing that their Las Fusil and Bolt Sniper Rifle can make short work of the Neurothrope from cloak headshots
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>>546928267
K. Still a shit class
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>>546929519
did you win?
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>>546930181
yes
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>>546930328
Optimal.
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Everyone beat current week's hard strat?
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>>546931243
I capped out like three weeks ago, I've had zero reason to play.
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>sm3
>necrons
>actually it was CHAOS ALL ALONG
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>>546931243
>he hasnt capped out his accolades
anon...
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>>546932180
>>546931646
I used CE to max out accolades and beat every hard stratagem
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>>546931646
I play the hard stratagems just for the sake of playing the game.
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>>546931951
Every space marine game is supposed to feature a Chaos faction...They are literally THE main antagonists of the Warhammer setting. That being said I do hope it's either Death Guard or World Eaters, out of all the Chaos factions the Thousand Sons is easily the most annoying faction to fight FUCK Tzeentch and FUCK Chaos spawn
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>>546932731
>Death Guard
no
fuck plague marines having a million hp
should be emperor's children (has an update model line including fulgay)
sonic weapons for ranged, fast melee attacks for parryslop/blockslop
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>>546932731
World Eaters tard raging all over the place would be the closest Chaos could ever get to Orkz banter.
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>>546932731
I have Chaos fatigue
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>Load in as Bulwark
>Paired with a Tactical and Vanguard
>Had all the right perks
>Tactical dies twice before guard camp and leaves
>Assault joins halfway through
>I thankfully found two guardian relics because Vanguard wasn't surviving as well as I'd hope he would
>Clutch out as last stand during carnifex encounter by the promethium field, dodging the stranglethorns, parrying the lictor, and getting armor back
>heal and persist through the generators and up the elevator
>another carnifex
>the assault actually manages to distract it solo and kill it after a while
>mission complete on a single try
There was this one time, back during the first week of strategem release, when during the enemy refinery breach in the last section that a bunch of spore mines spawned inside the middle crevasse and would just detonate in there instead of floating their way out. On that occasion the AOE must have bled through the floor because I remember dying to it.
I played it extra careful this time and didn't get caught.
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Confess.
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Make it chaos undivided so we can get
>Berzerker melee majoris
>Plague Marine with terminator HP values but bar Nurgle Terminators from the game
>Noise Marines as heavy support with flamer (sonic blaster) and plasma cannon (blastmaster)
>Not-Rubricae sorcerers
>Undivided Possessed Squads
>Obliterators and Mutilators
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>>546932731
I would be in favor of returning to chaos undivided like the first game did
Full access to the entire chaos roster would let Saber pick and choose the most fun enemies to fight rather than scrambling to gather up a roster from one subfaction
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>>546943390
>would let Saber pick and choose the most fun enemies to fight
The enemies in this game that are unfun to fight don't need to be that way, saber chose to make them unfun to fight.
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>>546943289
I don't know how to decorate my dudes in a lore-friendly way and every time I have someone explain to me the greaves and the pauldrons it doesn't make sense to me.
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>>546943289
I play on average difficulty while listening to 40K audiobooks
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>>546943289
I'm afraid of fucking up and embarrassing myself so I only play on Substantial with pubs
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It's going to be Necrons and Word Bearers.
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>>546943289
I only just swapped off the contested HP weapon perk on my power sword last night and put it on 20% terminus damage because I realized contested hp regain is practically useless.
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honestly the buff from the overcharge perk should be 50% more damage from charged melee attacks instead of 25% to be completely competitive with one free armor segment per gunstrike
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>>546943289
I’m an elitist who only plays Absolute and I think that if someone chooses to stay on a lower difficulty that reflects poorly upon their character as a human being
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>>546943564
>and every time I have someone explain to me the greaves and the pauldrons it doesn't make sense to me
It's pretty straightforward.
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>>546943289
I play on console
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>>546946295
I as well, brother.
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>>546946295
Yup.
PROS apparently has a method in which I can port my PS account to PC. That might make a difference if I ever get a good one in the near future before SM3.
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>>546945152
It probably is for anyone else, but every time I read about it the information slides off my smooth brain, so my dudes just end up with whatever bling I think looks cool while wearing chapter colors I like
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>>546950286
you ever thought of comprehending the information youre reading
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>>546950785
I try, but when it comes to military ranks and the regalia that comes with that sort of stuff I get overloaded with "What rank and company is my dude" and "Is this bling compliant with the rank my dude is supposed to be"
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I'm mad.
This happened a second time immediately after.
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>>546950060
the steam machine will redeem the poors
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>>546951295
Yeah so that shield wall thing blocks assaults ground pound. No idea if its a bug or not but incredibly fucking retarded regardless.
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>>546951295
>assaultkeks fucked over again
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>>546951295
I just had this happen too and its the most infuriating shit this class is allowed to have nothing
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>>546951468
It teleporting you away would indicate to me that is not the intended interaction.
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>>546951468
does it teleport you away if you take off from the inside too?
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>>546960572
No.
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>>546943016
>spore mines from middle door during inferno ending
Thats why you sit on the ramp when theyre about to spawn. You can shoot them while theyre behind the door and theyll chain react detonate eachother and kill any gaunts as they spawn. And if they dont spawn there you (usually) have vision of both other spawn points and can quickly reposition if necessary.
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>>546943289
I pushes from Minimal to Lethal in just a few months but never pushed into Absolute because I find it to be unfun even compared to Lethal.
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>>546943289
I don't like any of the founding Chapters besides Raven Guard.
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>>546905781
Can I just have a video game Melta that isn't a piss weak shotgun?
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What's the best class to carry randos in siege? Heavy for the rez?
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>>546963648
Ice cold take. They're pretty much all boring as fuck. I only like Thousand Sons pre Heresy
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>>546968919
You have one option.
The cortex command 40k mod's meltas.
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>>546969157
Vanguard

Extremis heal is GOATed
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>>546969157
Vanguard. 30% of your HP back every extremis execute is disgustingly broken in later waves
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>>546969508
>>546970274
Sounds good. Sometimes I need to carry a 3 stack too, what if one of the people you carry mains Vanguard?
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>>546970513
You will not be put in a siege mode where the other guy will be the same class as you.

Vanguard has mobility, free armor and/or free executes on grappling hook and the carbine will fuck up all targets.
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>>546970937
No I mean I have two irl friends I party with and one of them mains Vanguard
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>>546970513
Tactical is almost mandatory due to auspex. There's an argument for Heavy and Bulwark, Assault is extremely situational, Sniper falls off on later waves
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>>546971029
Pick Tactical then
Always pick Secure Supplies for free grenades
For wave 1-5 pick Plasma Incinerator, it's good enough to mog low tier Chaos and Tyranids
For the next wave adjust your sets, if you get Tyranids on the next map you switch to Stalker bolt rifle for Neuros/Zoans and stick to Plasma for Chaos
Pyreblaster is useless against Chaos, keep the full auto bolt carbine as your third main gun

If someone else is maining Tactical pick Heavy and the less ranged damage perk
Heroic heavy plasma, accuracy Heavy bolter and Heavy plasma
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in hard siege mode picking assault, sniper and shield rush bulwark is throwing the game
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>>546971862
And I'm going to keep throwing.
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Meatballs are so fucking insufferable to deal with.
If there are more than 3 of them you will get fucking juggled into a down state by multiple random red strikes and constant flinging arms.
Gay ass addition to the game.
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>>546969157
in case you are playing with literal drooling idiots, melta-spam tactical. you can kill 80% of waves but you can't force retards to execute extremis.
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So what do we think are the changes to the new assault "feature"?
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>>546978564
>It now does the same amount of damage as a Chainsword shoulder bash
>Saber: It's good now guys :)
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>>546978564
funny how I don't care even though assault is my favourite class below absolute. whatever saber does will suck. after playing blockhammer for three updates i'm more thrilled for the heroic thammer than whatever they do to the special.
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>>546969157
Any of them just be good at your class and have one other also good at their class and economy well as a group got through 15 with assault, shield rush bulwark, and level 7 tac
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>Space Marine 3 is gonna be 2029
Damn, guess we're getting a lot of shit for SM2.
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>>546963648
I don't like any of the founding chapters in general, just tolerate some.
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>>546969256
That’s only a cold take here because we’re all contrarians
The majority of the 40K community usually prefers one of the founding legions as their favorite
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>>546984089
I'm excited the axe will finally be usable, and the heroic chainsword's continuing to get worked on. More melee options for the most melee class are of course welcome.
Assault needs a perk rework though, not to mention bug fixes. A shield rush esque ability would've done shit loads to help eclipse those issues for now, but it's looking like it won't do that at all. In fact, it sounds like they're just giving assault a noob trap.
Presumably, they're gonna give every class an ability like shield rush and assault's new dash attack. They're all already in a better spot than assault, so once that happens, assault's probably gonna really start to eat the other class' dust.
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>>547014514
Assault basically needs all three of his fucking signature perks reworked. The first one is kind of useful if need to reposition and shoot something down but they should at least give a firing rate increase for a duration.
Ascension has always been fucking trash and it's better at killing your teammates then enemies
Commitment would be good if Wings of Fire was built into it or just made fucking inherent to the class.
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Has there been any talk from the devs about improving load times or reducing the number of loading screens? Or is that just something we have to live with forever
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>>547017254
Too much server and netcode work, prease understandu
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>>547009414
And their favourite pokemon is pikachu. That is completely normal. They are the dumb cash cow letting us, distinguished taste elites, enjoy the setting.
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>>547015380
Give Assault a teamwide 15% Majoris heal per kill and watch Assault get included in every game moving forward
3 jump pack charges
jump pack dodges no longer costing a charge by default
GP gives some contested health back and every kill heals a bit and stacks with other team heal perks
1st row of perks are for Fencing/Balanced melee
2nd row of perks are for Block melee
3rd row of perks are buffs, upgrades and anti-Terminus stuff
Prestige perks focus on buffing specific weapons even further instead of just mild upgrades and buffs
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>>547018234
this guy gets it
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>>547018234
>15% Majoris heal per kill
Everything else sounds fine but this is just hilariously overtuned.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhZtvtdVzkw

Only a few more days until I can use the only good sniper weapon again.
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>>547018234
all I want is for the jump pack to function like it did in Space Marine 1
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I know cultists have a little drop-down from cliff animation when they're trying to approach you but do they have that big jump moving up the same cliff to shoot at you?
I'm trying to visualize the end of Inferno or something but with the strategem condition where it spawns Chaos instead. Tzaangors and Cultists don't have the same "pile on top of each other" animations that the hormagaunts have.
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Give assault double tap gunstrikes, first gunstrike at +50% damage and the second consecutive one at +100% damage; single target only with one click
The other choice is being able to gunstrike 2-4 Majoris-Extremis enemies in a janky animation after a perfect parry
Instead of killing 7 enemies fast to replenish grenades give Assault a sticky grenades perk that lets Assault turn every grenade into kraks while hovering while also giving it 100% more equipment damage if thrown this way, this will allow the class to finally fuck up flying niggers
Adrenaline Rush AoE radius expands to 10m and does 200% more damage
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>>547018234
>Give Assault a teamwide 15% Majoris heal per kill and watch Assault get included in every game moving forward
Drop it to 5% and make it a melee kill (executes count as melee kills for perk activation fortunately), and Saber might actually listen to you. Vanguard has a 5% heal that does the same thing, so it's entirely feasible
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What if Assault could gain up to 2 more extra armor meter from kills?
Or if that non-lethal gunstrike gives 1 armor perk scaled with enemy type. Remember when it used to give all your armor back if you gunstriked a terminus enemy?
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>>546898168
Both routes have gene-seed but one has way less of them.
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>>547018234
>jump pack dodges no longer cost a charge by default
Wouldn’t this just lead to a lot of pub or assaults just turbo-boosting miles ahead of the team and abandoning everyone? I think I should just have a smaller, separate cooldown from the actual jump pack.
>>547017971
If they developed more of the successor chapters I would agree with you, but outside of a few good outliers like Lamentors or Raptors, the entirety of most of their backstories are like: “uuuuh they like heavy weapons, they have two more thunderhawks than average, and they fought on Planet Piss in the Peepeepoopoo Campaign.”
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>>547032564
IMO it should refund the charge IF you hit an enemy with the dash attack, and in exchange it does more damage than shield rush.
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if there's Alpharius Omegon then where is Omegarius Alphagon
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>>547032564
>“uuuuh they like heavy weapons, they have two more thunderhawks than average, and they fought on Planet Piss in the Peepeepoopoo Campaign.”
Yes, and?
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>>547033014
It NEEDS to be massively better than shield rush. For many reasons. I like shield rush because it's fun but it's so fucking strong, and safe, and versatile that there's nothing they could give to assault because of it.
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>if you hit a flying enemy while ground pounding, that enemy gets knocked out and takes 150% ground pound damage, but all other targets of such a ground pound only take 75%
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>>547032564
Shield Rush Bulwarks rush ahead and eat shit, they then either quit or get votekicked

An Assault going too far ahead will end up the same
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Hello frens. I have Heavy and Tact at prestige 4 and maxed out all their guns. How do I play Bulwark? I want to try out a melee class but have no idea how to power sword, hammer, or axe.
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>>547036473
>power sword
power rake, power whirl when surrounded
>hammer
do not
>axe
parry gunstrike
>fist
charge
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>>546869008
Table Top niggers are so unbelievably annoying with their gay ass, retarded ass game. Nobody wants to spend time rolling dice for 20 minutes or measuring the space between figurines. The tt fucking sucks, you fucking suck, shut the fuck up.
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>>547025227
5% is too low on the hardest difficulty and anti-player modifiers on stratagems

15% is actually fair since even the Extremis heal will still fuck up players with shit positioning
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>>546923743
No, but I'd play a stealth action game where I play as a Tanith team on a mission to assassinate or sabotage something. They could make a game out of Traitor General. That'd be fucking sick.
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Wtf, I can't connect to servers...
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Surely we will get a devblog before 11.0 is out, right?
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>>546951107
So, assuming that you're basically following the rules, space marine organization looks a little like this.

>Chapter
Your capital-T Team. Ultramarine, Space Wolf, whatever. There's a chapter master who runs the show and everyone else is under them. There ought to be about 1,000 marines total (emphasis on "ought to").

>Company
Chapters are divided into 10 companies of 100 marines each. These are pretty squishy and individual marines can be moved between them, but the general layout is: 1st company is comprised of veterans, 2nd-5th companies are your "standard" combat squads and have a mix of every playable class in Space Marine 2, and 6th-10th are more specialized. For the purposes of the game, it's probably easiest to assume that a class is in the 2nd-5th company, or 1st if you want to paint them as a veteran. Companies are led by a captain (in SM2 that was Acheran), assisted by 2 lieutenants. The main purpose of the lieutenants is to serve as leaders in case the company needs to be split up for whatever reason (e.g. if a deployment demanded half the company on one side of a star system and the other half on the other, one lieutenant would go with each).

>Squad
The ten companies are themselves subdivided into ten ten-man squads. If you do the math, 10-person squads times ten squads per company times ten companies per chapter comes out to exactly 1,000 marines. Hooray for codex compliance! For game purposes, this number can be whatever you want; the squads aren't anything special, just pick one. Squads are led by a sergeant.

>Battlefield role
An individual marine fills a battlefield role, which basically reflects their loadout. Close support, battleline, and fire support roughly approximate to "close range," "medium range," "long range", while the lieutenant and veteran roles denote seniority or leadership respectively (everybody in the 1st company is typically a veteran, while every company has lieutenants).
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Cont. >>547042952
So with the basic structure out of the way:

>Chapter
The chapter's color scheme makes up the base color of the marine's armor, with the chapter badge being displayed on their left pauldron.

>Company
Pauldron trim (both of them). Again, you're probably looking at 2nd-5th company as standard, with 1st for veterans. Google "40k company colors" for a reference. If you're wondering why some chapters always seem to have the same pauldron trim (like how the Ultramarines always have gold), it's because Games Workshop tends to pick a "default" company for each chapter, just so that their artists and painters always know what color to make the pauldron trim. There's nothing stopping you from making an Ultramarine with green trim.

>Squad
Roman numeral on the left shoulder, superimposed over the...

>Battlefield role
Also left shoulder.

>BONUS: Ranks & Helms
Sergeants wear a red helm, regardless of the chapter color scheme. Veterans where a white one. A veteran sergeant wears a red helm with a white stripe, and a lieutenant wears a helm of the default chapter color, but with a red stripe trimmed in white along the top (this is actually its own helmet in the game, not a paint scheme). See pic related for reference.
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Cont. >>547043184
>DOUBLE BONUS: Knee Pads
There's nothing in the codex about knee pads as far as I know. Each chapter kind of does their own thing (or doesn't). Ultramarines use the right kneepad as an additional spot to mark rank (see pic related), but that's just them. Kneepads are most commonly used as a kind of "overflow" when the real estate on the shoulders isn't available. Dark Angels, for instance, like to keep their pauldron trim green, so they display their company on the right kneepad. Flesh Tearers are even more complicated: they don't use pauldron trim, so they moved their company markings to a color-coded blood drop over their battlefield role icon. But that's where the squad number usually goes, so they moved that to the kneepad.

As a rule of thumb, if any part of a space marine's heraldry would be obscured, you generally just move it to the next most-important spot. Like, if you have a pauldron that obscures the chapter symbol on the left pauldron, you'd move the chapter symbol to the right pauldron instead (see: Deathwatch). Then you'd move the battlefield role marking to the kneepad.

>TRIPLE ULTRA BONUS: Bling
Bling is literally whatever you want. Generally the more important you are the fancier your armor gets, but there's nothing saying you might have inherited or been bequeathed some kickass relic armor due to some quirk in your recruitment or from a particular campaign. Plenty of the sets in-game put the art for actual literal chapter masters to shame, but hey, it's there isn't it?
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Xenophase Blade or Honourific Relic?
Otherwise I might just buy one of the armor pieces for /fa/.
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>>547045204
/fa/ over function every time.
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>>547039548
it's chewsday
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>>547045204
Are you a Bulwark main? if so buy the Xenophase blade if not then you can buy the armor 1st
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>load in
>see this before leave the pick a class screen
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>mods detected
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This strategem has been nothing but 20 devourer warriors shooting me nonstop from the dark while im putting my 30st gunstrike into the lictor.
Im just waiting till zoan/neuro spawns which leads to my team downing instantly and said combination eventually getting to me.
Every single game plays like that, and if i play assault to dive in and kill the warriors i end up being out of ammo against 4 zoans, I think this is the first weekly i may skip, havent tried it with friends yet, but i dont see myself doing this with randoms.
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>Bonds of Brotherhood instead of Additional Supplies or Encompassing Aegis
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>start weekly
>teammates both die in the first 5 minutes
>they leave
>new people join
>they die in 5 minutes
>they leave
>new people join
>they die in 5 minutes
>etc.
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>>547057641
Just post code if you can't/haven't beat it
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There is nothing more infuriating then rezzing someone with bonds of brotherhood and they die with a medkit on them
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>Tactical with Aligned Aim
>Assault with Fencing melee
>Bulwark with shock AoE
>Vanguard with Inner Fire
>melee Sniper
>Heavy with Bonds of Brotherhood
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>>547058830
Fencing melee is fine on assault tho. He has multiple perks around gunstrikes
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>>547058830
I play fencing power fist because I want an easy way to get armor from minoris mobs.
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Which fucking retard at saber decided chaos reinforcements should cause area of effect damage that deals almost all of your health through armor?
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>>547059476
The same guy who coded mycetic spores to instantly kill you if you were underneath it.
At least you can see where those teleportations are going to land.
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>>547058830
I play all of these
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>>547057831
I'd join.
I've beaten the first weekly before. Been trying to help people through this one for fun, since I'm maxed on heroics and cool ranch doritos.
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>>547058998
Learn how to dodge.
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>>547058830
Melee sniper's awesome though.
Playing around your invisibility ability is a lot of fun. You feel like a fuckin' anime character.
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>>547061047
>dodge
>miss out on free damage buff from parrying
lolno
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>>547061057
Is that an Alpha Legion marine disguising himself as another Alpha Legion marine?
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>>547055982
Not picking unmatched zeal is crazy, but the other vanguard team perks are neat.
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>>547061668
I figured it was a salamander, cause of the scales.
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>>547062127
One-handed Thunder Hammers when
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JUST THREE MORE MONTHS TILL TECHMARINE

PUT IT TOGETHER FOR THREE MONTHS
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>>547063767
Isn't it close to two?
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>>547064712
Nah, we'll likely get a PTS in late January, and then the actual update in very early February. Keeping in mind Christmas is gonna put a pause on development, while U12 still has to drop in Q1 2026 so that'll be late March.
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>>546874451
Part of the issue with the original walls were the image was getting too big. Every time it was updated it had to be manually compressed which often screwed the colors up.

It's good that whoever's got it now actually knows how to do the editing and everything properly
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>>547043184
>>547043346
I think yours is the only explanation that's actually made sense to me, thanks for explaining in detail. For kneepads, I just need to look up what Chapter/Legion does what, and if they don't have anything special, I can just leave them blank?
Also on the bling, as long as it isn't explicitly a different chapter/legion's iconography, I can wear them and be lore-friendly?
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>>547069817
Hey I'm happy to hear it Anon, it was an excuse to catch myself up too. To answer your actual questions (and I'm sure another Anon will correct me if I've got this wrong):

>Knee pads
Yep, that's how it works as far as I know. FYI, when it comes to how weird other chapters get, some of them can get very weird. Pic related is the Blood Angels setup, which:

>Ignores shoulder trim
>Because of this, they move their company to their shoulder, and to make it even weirder they don't use the codex company colors. Instead, they use a blood-drop iconography unique to them.
>Since the shoulder's being taken up with the company icon, they move their squad number to their kneepad. Again, they make things more difficult by using colors and symbols instead of squad numbers. "Oh, what squad are you in?" "You know, black-lightning-bolt-on-a-yellow-field (8th squad)."
>But what about the battlefield role symbol? Don't worry, they color-code their *helmets* for that.
>But if they're using helmets for their battlefield role, what do they do for sergeants/lieutenants? Oh they change the background color of their pauldrons for that, of course.

Blood Angels are an extreme example, since they're an OG chapter with a ton of lore so they can get away with being weird like that. If you're ever curious about a specific chapter, googling "<CHAPTER NAME> heraldry" basically always brings up pictures like these. Most chapters are much closer to the Ultramarines that I used in my first example. If you're ever in a situation where it's not clear what a chapter does, you can safely assume that it's whatever the Ultramarines do. They (literally) wrote the book on it--they're Default Marines.

>Bling
Pretty much. There's no rules here other than "if you're a named character or important to the setting, you're probably covered in several hundred pounds of gold." Otherwise, anything goes. *Most* nameless background marines wear the default kit, but you're not a nameless background marine.
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>>546945002
i have all classes at prestige 4 level 25
i have all heroic weapons and shop armors
i have all armor unlocked
i have all weapons capped out at relic
i play on ruthless because i cannot stand the boring +% health / damage that makes all my favorite weapons worse

anyone that difficulty whores is literal human waste that should be dragged into the street and ended
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>>547072475
NTA but playing Absolute made me like the multi-extremis spawns.
A single lictor, ravener, and zoan pair feel boring now.
Although anything more than a single Biovore feels like overkill.
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>>546874451
Kek.
Does the current wall have dudes like this?
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>>547072019
NTA, is the BA Command and Veteran the same gold
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>>547072475
But do you have your veterancy level at 48, all your classes at rank 8 in eternal war, AND all the new chaos skins?
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>>547076829
nta but I went through the process of getting all of these, and I inflated my bulwark kills using the dreadnought
assuming they fix the issues with the khorne arms and shoulderpads I'm going to make them all khorne, and if they don't I'm going to make them all black legion
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>>547076829
I refuse to touch PvP.
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>>547076829
Can't wait to make the chaos version of every class a world eater, including Heavy and Sniper.
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>>547076829
I have not touched pvp a single time since the game released.
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>>547076829
The only reason I've played PvP at all is because me and my friend were supposed to play through the game on launch but he got delayed by a day.
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>>547077028
Nice.
All I have left to grind are bulwark and heavy, my least favorite classes for pvp. Don't love their chaos skins either, so I honestly might just skip them. Bulwark death guard won't really go with anything anyway once we can kitbash chaos armor, it's the only one covered in green slime.

What's wrong with the world eater arms? The fact the naked one's model's like incomplete at the shoulder under what's left of the pauldron?
I think they'd have to remodel the breast plate too, so it's showing where his arm connects with his torso, which might not be possible. They probably never intended for any of the cosmetic armor pieces to be armorless when they designed how our space marine models work.
They might not even let us move the left sided world eater pauldron and "gauntlet" at all cause of how they could show unpolished sections of armor you weren't meant to see.
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>>547077047
>>547078667
>>547077371
It's alright if you play assault. Only way to make the melee combat be viable in pvp, since guns are so much better if you're jump packless. You can actually close distances like you need to, and gtfo fast like you also need to be able to do to make pvp melee viable.
Your jump pack's also waaaaay less cucked than in ops. It has 1 extra charge, charges at a reasonable rate, you can hover and shoot while in the air, and you can jump like 3x higher.
A really good assault is fucking insane.
You can't escape them. You could die at any moment you're not in an underground tunnel.
I've seen assaults get 25+ kills by the ends of matches.
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If I'm using a gun that isn't the stalker it feels like shit, if I'm using a melee weapon that isn't the power fist it feels like shit, I fucking hate the abysmal balance of this game man.
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>>547072475
You’re hard-stuck on Ruthless because you can’t stand adversity and challenge. You like baby-blanket power fantasies that give you the only taste of success you’ve experienced in your life. You attack others who are better than you because you can’t cope with that fact. Stay out of my Absolutes.
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>>547072475
Nah Absolute is top tier. After playing the Hard mode stuff absolute feels right, challenging but not overwhelming, and now everything else feels too easy. Hard is a good hardest difficulty, doable with the right people. Absolute is still doable with pubs.
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>>547076829
>veterancy level at 48
With how abysmal the XP rates are in PvP I can only imagine that'd take exponentially longer than getting every class to prestige IV and maxing out every weapon, which already takes forever.
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>>547072475
absolute and hard challenges are way more fun idk how you can be forever complacent on ruthless. Guns like stalker bolt rifle, heroic and relic plasma, and las fusil all obliterate anything in their path so you can still feel powerful. If your favorite weapons arent on that list then sorry I don't know what to tell you lol. I used to hate using the stalker rifle but now it's the only thing I use and it's become my favorite weapon for tac.
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>>547085283
Bolt carbine is better
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was it a bug or a feature that biovores weren't synapse creatures until recently?
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That was/is such a pointless cat and mouse game. Considering how much bullshit Saber and the game director have been selling since last year.
There's time to keep the cards close to the chest and there are moment when it's better to give a sneak peek of what you're working on. What a retarded approach, but really it's exacerbated by Grigorenko and his sub-zero IQ takes.
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>>547085982
I like the carbine a lot but stalker feels like it hits harder and does more damage
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>>547086868
>does more damage
Nothing has as much single target DPS as a magdumping carbine. There's some shit that gets close, and can do better by having AoE, but bolt carbine is ezpz point and squeezy oops a warrior is dead
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>>547090041
to clarify, are you talking about the bolt smg variant for vanguard specifically? because yes you can grapple to a warrior, and unload into their skulls point blank and THAT for sure has the highest DPS for a bolt weapon. Even more so if you put on the prestige perk that makes you do more damage at less than 15 meters. The marksmen carbine variant is good but not that good.
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>>547090990
The tactical gets it, too. It's fucking OP.
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>>547090990
Tactical, Sniper, and Vanguard have access to it. Take auspex parry on Tactical and mag dump into the head, and suddenly you've got like 450% extra damage due to the enemy being scanned, the debuff from being parried, the 50% extra damage tacked on the Carbine because you're close to the enemy, and the headshot multiplier. Sniper can get infinite cloak and a grenade recharge separate from the Tactical perk if you build it properly
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>>547090990
half the roster gets the regular bolt carbine
and yes, generally the base SMG mode is what people are talking about but the marksman bolt carbine is also very strong, probably stronger than the occulus and instigator if not for having to spam click.
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>marksman carbine had 3 fucking scopes on it
>Can't use any of them
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>>547092321
Would be a downgrade for me, personally. I don't use the occulus specifically because of the scope in
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>>547057641
>start weekly
>pairs me up with a Vanguard
>he gets hundred-to-zero'd by a single devourer out of his view and instantly quits
You know what? Fair enough.
>later on a bulwark and a sniper joins
>sniper is a prodigy who carries runs for fun, got the weekly on my first attempt
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Honestly
I think the power fantasy is garbage in this game, or the balance is just extremely bad. I hate how sponge everything gets in Tier 4 - Tier 5 even with maxed out weaponry, and I think the bigger problem is the underwelming weapon damage.
I have not touched the neo-volkite pistol since it dropped because my first impressions were "Wow this shit doesn't have strong quick-burst" which is neccessary for anything above Average difficulty.
Adding the heavy bolt rifle to the heavy class was stupid when the heavy bolter exists, it was just a pointless addition. And then there was the pyrecannon which I liked but admittely its the worst primary in the game.
The pyrecannon has shit damage and you cant see anything ahead of you when you spray flames which they thought was a good idea in a game where blocking and parrying timed attacks is a vital mechanic.
And then there's the other problem with Bulwark and Sniper being the best classes in the game because one can cloak + has high burst damage and the other had a shield + the best class ability in the game.
I dont want people to breeze through the game but I think its stupid as fuck to have all this gear but ultimately most of its useless when everyone cherrypicks what makes the higher difficult easier. Hopefully if there's any balance updates in the future that they dont go full retard and nerf the bearable equipment and gear before looking at why no ones going to use that god awful inferno pistol.
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>>547094412
I don't mean to be a total cunt, but you are clearly a shitcunt.
>Inferno Pistol
Literally 1 of 2 best sidearms for Assault
>Pyrecannon
Again with the right setup its absolutely top tier.
>Heavy Bolt Rifle
Who cares its literally a pointless 'GW mandated' addition.
>Sniper being in the same conversation as Tac or Vanguard for being strongest...

Only thing you are objectively correct on is most of the weapons being weak. Bolters being effectively 5.56 M4's is extremely shit. The problem is, from a gameplay position, There is not enough enemies and they are not threatening enough to justify common weapons being 'lore' strength. It is a game and dev limitation.

People pointed this out before launch and got over it a long time ago.
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>>547095806
The least they can do is make bolt weapons cause hitstun on consecutive headshots. Shit like the plasma incinerator and meltagun will stunlock enemies to death with not even a quarter of the effort.
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Holy FUCK the ping system is finnicky as shit.
>"Oh boy there's a Biovore over there I had better spot it so my teammates know!"
>"Anon wants to proceed here"
>"Anon wants to help teammate"
>"Anon warns there is Termagaunt"
>mfw
If they actually fixed the issues it'd probably be one of the better spotting mechanics I've seen in a game, but that will never happen. Guess I'll just keep spotting the objective marker instead of the Lictor currently currently actually fucking me in my ass.
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350 hours and im done, im sick of this game, i have completed all the hard starts and everything is maxed out i dont care about the new patch or boss i will wait until the new class

im gonna play helldivers 2

gg easy tu mama en bici
get gud scrubs
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>>547108767
K
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>>547108767
>I'm gonna play assassin's creed instead of devil may cry
Ok, faggot.
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>>547108767
You're brown.
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Why do smurfs have so many hapas?
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>>547121197
Have you maxed out everything?
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>>547123874
Everything except heavy flamer. I just havent bothered with it.
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>>547123005
If you want an in lore explanation, the setting is so far in the future that skin tones shifted a lot, as well as Ultramar being a subsector, hence the "muh 500 worlds". If you want an out of setting explanation, GW is listening to modern market trends and decided that the 80s white nerd culture is not what they're going for anymore. I'd rather have a well written character that doesn't look like me over a horribly written character that looks like me personally
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>>547124153
I salute you, I could never bother leveling above level 9 on PvP or have the patience to keep restarting wave 5-10 normal for weapon colours
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>>547124717
Yeah PVP was a massive waste of dev time. I really hope they don't bother with it in SM3 to use their time better elsewhere.
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>>547125036
PVP never had the 2x XP boost like Operations had, even then 2x XP is useless in higher levels I assume since you can go to level 40+ now

Fuck that level of grind
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>>547123005
They are the race mixer chapter, the women of ultramar have a preference for the BED (big eldar dick)
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>>547076829
>>547125036
It is such a tragedy that such Beautiful armor is forever locked behind a lame cash in, check off the list afterthought of a mode.
Because Saber and GW are so Bi-polar, self-contradicting, double standard having spergs that cry "we can't have chaos armor thats lore breaking!" while we play as Death Company Blood Angels & Space Wolves yelling "We march for Macragge!". with Chaos Death guard heraldry and symbols and paintjobs already
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>>547042952
>while every company has lieutenants
There are 2 lietenants. You probably mean captains. Each company has a captain and each squad has a sargeant. Captains are usually also veterans, sargeants sometimes are, but not always.

>>547043184
>Roman numeral on the left shoulder
That's only true if you mean your (the player's) left shoulder, when you are looking at your marine on the screen. It's that marine's right shoulder.
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>>547097065
Just point your crosshair/mouse cursor on it.
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>>547124407
>80s white nerd culture is not what they're going for anymore
The 70s white nerd culture was better anyways. I remember Eldar with glam rock hair.
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>>547123005
Decimus, Metaurus, Chairon are all Celestial Lions and Salamanders

Gadriel is from the White Scars
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>>547132579
Wait, but Badab's surface was essentially destroyed by Carcharodons when they sabotaged its underground reactors.
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>>547136547
That's a blurb from Rogue Trader days, the name got shifted to an Eldar that's working with Guilliman. I'm surprised you take more offense to Badab being destroyed and not the fact that he worked with the Administratum, Dark Angels, AND Ultramarines, despite not actually being elevated to Space Marine
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>>547137174
I do realize that back in those days there were plenty of special snowflakes around, but being special has its limits, and being massacred in a total planetary populace obliteration is one of those limits.
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>>547136517
>Gadriel is from the White Scars
Include Valius in there. I'd say Straban too but he acts like a robot.
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Light attacks feel too weak, they need to buff light attacks across the board. Mostly doing charged attacks doesn't feel that great
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>>547140641
One really has to ask what the point of light attacks are in the developers' minds. The way they're set up currently they're almost universally just a tax to get to the good (heavy) attacks.
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>select a class I want to level
>queue up
>team found in the middle of an op
>class select screen pops up
>can't use the class I picked previously
>can't quit right there
>have to select a class I don't want, load into the op, quit to battle barge, load into battle barge, waddle to the magos and switch my class again
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>>547145362
Spamming lights as Bulwark with a power sword is enough to clear gaunt hordes, and it also stunlocks most enemies. I also use light spams as assault to kill gaunts and line up heavies on warriors
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Even without the double shot bug, multimelta is still heavy's best weapon.
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>>547146735
>Spamming lights as Bulwark with a power sword is enough to clear gaunt hordes
If I'm not mistaken that's the only light attack in the game worth anything on its own, hence "almost universally".
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Block power fist is so fucking slow, holy shit. Yeah OK, it theoretically lets me literally cast fist when I punch with it after perfect blocking twice, but in practice I don't have enough time to actually swing.
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>>547150761
skill issue
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I'll go down to some random bullshit combo one time and the rest of the mission nothing happens, I hate it.
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>>547133526
Saber are hypocrites, and the normie 40k fans are beyond retarded, they're insane. They don't even want pre MK10 armor in the game.
They've already lost the lore accurate battle.

3 marines are parrying vortex beasts at this point.
Bolters aren't bolters.
Power fist doesn't work like it's supposed to.
Meltas don't work like they're supposed to.
A gravis marine wielding heavy weapons moves at the same speed as phobos marines wielding SMGs and knives.

They should've let us use chaos armor when they decided to let us use their heraldry. End of story.
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>>547152060
owned
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Bullshit like this is why balance sucks.
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>>547154962
Just drop a melta and roll out of there brother.
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>>547146735
>>547149364
Power Mode light swings knock gaunts away so it's an easy way to get gunstrike + armor
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>>547157656
And even then, the full throttle skip into shoulder bash is still better.
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>>547157486
Melta bombs are not guaranteed and the animation for dropping them locks you out of dodging or parrying or using your ability.
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Are they buffing the fire of Multimelta to compensate for its stance bug being fux?
Please say yes.
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>>547158452
Power Whirl is my favorite attack in the game.
Kills minoris like it's nothing and deals heavy damage to everything else.
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I saw a tactical using a knife and I was very confused
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>>547160985
It's been the default melee weapon of tactical marines for decades.
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We almost there niggas. Just a week to go.
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>>547162878
Im not going to make it.
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>>547154962
Was getting faceraped like that on Heavy while leveling shit up. Balance aside, this just gangraping you is annoying.
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I think Heavy is my favorite class. Straban is a bro and I enjoy being the best at laying waste to hordes of shit all at once.
I strongly dislike how mediocre the bolter guns are though.
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Fuck it why not
Weekly Hard Strat
Playing Tac, NA west
7VDVA
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>>547166207
>mwwwwaaaaah the Tzeentch!
Sorry Brother, I'm going to sleep in the Euroland rn.
Best of luck, nevertheless!
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>>547166207
Aight it’s been ten minutes I’m going in with pubs fuck it
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>>547166207
>full
JUST
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>>547166207
>dogshit heavy that died every 30 seconds
>useless bulkwark
Made it to the oil fields but wiped to a carnifex after I got wombo-combo’d by two lictors
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>>547169704
Post code again, I'll join
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>>547169905
I will in 15 minutes or so sure
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>>547169704
I think they should disable other lictors for this weekly. I always end up killing a non-invincible one by mistake
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>>547170395
Would rather have Lictors than Zoanthropes and Biovores.

It's clear they just reset the hard strats because the update will be next week.
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>>546923743
this armor reminds me of that african army demonstration of their shitty ironman armor
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>>547169704
>dogshit heavy that died every 30 seconds
literally me with the pyrecannon
got carried by a tactical
i died 6 times and only got 5k ranged score
my greatest achievement is using the pyrecannon to halve the hp of the neurothrope boss fights while eating shit in every area
im surprised i wasn't votekicked, i deserved to be
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Okay will post hard strat codes again here in a sec
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>>547172437
Okay new hard strat lobby
IB4VN
Playing Tac
NA west
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>>547172896
2/3
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bots can still use grenades with the no equipment modifier
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>>547173621
So no matter what, they can fuck up your block chain by staggering whatever you're fighting.
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Genuinely sleepwalked through this mission.

>>547174235
Bot grenades can't stagger you.
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>>547172896
GGs thanks for helping
I think I’m just playing like fucking trash today, gonna give it a rest
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>>547175192
The Snoy heavy actually killed the Carnifex.
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Are there really turbofags who hate Black Templars because of memes?
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>>547175309
Wild, as soon as he started rollslopping I figured it was over
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>>547175423
He had a sliver of health yet and bot Valius got gangbanged but respawned just to revive him. Then he killed it soon after then I just left.

I beat this a few days ago as a Stalker Tactical, I had the oneshot Extremis auspex perk and only used the auspex whenever dogshit is around and needed to fuck off or there's a Terminus around (got 2 Neuros).

They didn't retune this Lictor as it can come back almost immediately even if "killed".
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queued some ruthless quick play to level
joined in
"MODS DETECTED" pop up in the right upper corner
i get booted and some report warning comes up
ive never messed with sm2 files or downloaded any mod for it

am i fucked?
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Vanguard is sometimes pretty okay.
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>>547175730
I’ve cleared every other hard strat but this one just consistently fucks me up for some reason, even though it’s basically just regular Inferno on Absolute
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>>547177265
it's not regular inferno
everytime that lictor shows up it has the extremis flag which means the shitter summons a horde with it
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>>547174808
>reading comprehension
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>>546943289
I like to play exclusively with bots because I can't stand interacting with 40k fans, despite being very aware at the handicap I'm giving myself.
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>>547182747
I am dyslexic.
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I hope one day regular bolt snipers are as good as the las fusil.
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>>547185197
Fusil will probably always have better DPS but the new heroic bolt sniper its really REALLY fucking good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhZtvtdVzkw
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>>547185197
>rate of fire Las Fusil
Literally no ammo
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What do the cheevo points do?
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>>547152060
>Plans upon plans, years of scheming and ever gently tugging the strings of fate, like a gentle babe, the Thousand Sons decimated, for this single moment
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>>547189928
Pretty funny moment to be fair, makes me chuckle. It being a plan eons in the making makes it even funnier. Cegorach can pat himself on the back for this one.
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>die to desynch wave on mutalith
Nice
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>>547152060
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>>547152060
This is why I take Second Look
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>>547189679
It has infinite ammo for chaff clearing so that relieves the low ammo count by a lot.
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>>546928830
you insisting on a fistin'.
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>>546943289
I don't play on anything higher than avarage and I'm 10000% unapologetic.

I'm in for the power fantasy and to sfeel like a space marine, not to stress out due to lag mis-timing my parries.
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>>547202698
Absolute is the most realistic depiction of being a space marine though
Your average Marine struggles in a 1v1 with a Tyranid Warrior, and most would get absolutely raped versus a Lictor
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>>547203124
Right, but the scaling is still off. Astartes weapons aren't whiffle bats against Nids. A space marine would be 1:1 equivalent to a warrior in damage output, we're the Imperium's Majoris-tier foe.
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>>547202698
Substantial is probably the more realistic experience than Average.
The power fantasy argument is a bit of a misnomer. You surviving at all is the power fantasy. The Tyranids are winning the war.
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Literally why dont they add more chaos space marine armor? we already have heretical astartes. I dont care if it would be weird if my space marine looked like thousand sons
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>>547206959
You're loyalists helping the loyalist cause. Also it would harm class readability. Also GW said no. Also small company please understand.
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>>547206959
There's no reasonable explanation for CSM armors not being available in PvE (we have chaos heraldrly already) other than the fact Saber would almost certainly fuck something up if they had added them into the general customization pool.
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>>547207089
this doesn't even make sense because the readability is a joke in this game, just make the outline better and call it a day and like >>547207152 said we already have chaos heraldry in the game. They might aswell full send it and add chaos space marine armor, make the outlines better and in pvp its not even a big deal.
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>>547207902
First one is what Saber has genuinely said. Second one is what people online have tried to argue. Third one is a mix of Saber and people online have argued. Considering the Salamanders champion was put on Sniper for no reason other than "It has a cloak", you really shouldn't expect them to give a shit
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>check the settings to see if I can change the ADS crosshair to a simple dot
>see a setting that enables or disables the "sight brackets"
>disable it
>it just flat out disables the entire crosshair when I'm ADSing
What the fuck is the point of this setting?
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I don't care if it isn't good. Pyreblaster Heavy is too much fun.
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>>547209426
...that it doesn't distract you with the crosshair? the crosshair literally doesn't matter. this game is not a shooter. without ads you miss, with ads you hit the enemy closest to the center of the screen. you can't aim at a particular enemy.
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What's gonna be your first 1000 goy point splurge when the update drops?

>Heroic Bolt Sniper
>Heroic Instigator
>MK VII Helmet
>Veteran Molecular Bolt Shoulder
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I am purging this thread. Begone Chaos filth!
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>>547136517
Gadriel's some noble that decided to go on pilgrimage to a ultramarine fortress at 10yrs old. He got to be a neophyte just for making the journey, and he eventually got assigned to 6th company until he caught the attention of Acheran, who offered him a place in 2nd company.
From there he worked himself through the ranks to sergeant, then SM2 happens.
https://youtu.be/v3eE1OW5j8o?si=XN470Gdxnuf7CF8U
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>>547166207
I was busy all day yesterday, senpai. My bad.
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>>547207089
>You're loyalists helping the loyalist cause.
And yet we're allowed to wear chaos heraldry, just not the armor for no real reason.
> Also it would harm class readability.
Who fuckin cares? That shit only matters for pvp, and it's even going out the window there once people can kitbash their CSMs in a week.
You can just check the UI one time to see what your squads classes are. You don't need niggas to be visually distinct.
>Also GW said no.
GW is wrong and gay.
>Also small company please understand.
It would probably take something as simple as changing number values from 0 to 1 in the code to implement this.
Meanwhile they're happy to keep making entirely new cosmetics from scratch, not to mention entire missions with newly recorded dialogue, and melee weapons that have to have execution animations for every executable enemy type.
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>>547215401
Depends on if there's any changes from the PTS. Namely the assault "feature". Otherwise yeah probably the bolt sniper.
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White Scars = Gay
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>try to play pvp today and grind a chaos skin with an easy class (heavy)
>get into a lobby where my team's full of level 48s and the other's filled with single digits
>my team is dominating obviously
>I keep running into death balls somehow and can't get any kills
>our assault gets 9 kills somehow in the first minute, despite the map being tomb, where there's low ceiling tunnels everywhere
>"Fuck this."
>leave
>permanently searching for a match
>reboot the entire game
>get into a match where I'm on team single digit now
>enemy team is just hovering around the map with two heavies and a bulwark
>literally impossible to kill them unless my team decides to get good and coordinate like them
>they obviously never do
>"Fuck this too."
>leave
>permanently stuck searching for matches again
>reboot entire game again, complete with the three different loads it needs to do just to get to the battle barge from the title screen
>find a match
>actually getting kills now
>actually running into single players and not pure death balls now
>fucking finally found a decent match
>get a phone call and have to leave the match with in the first quarter to deal with irl shit
>mfw
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What're some underrated blood angel successors?
No flesh tearers or lamenters.
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>>547245441
Blood dragons are their marines malevolent
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>>547150840
For some reason I feel like it works better against chaos than nids. Maybe I just don't feel like trying to block everything when I know I'll get slapped by spasming spawns anyways.
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>>547206959
OK, they will, but you will only be able to win it in a special arena where you can't use equipment and need to solo clear waves of 4, 8, 16, 32 and 64 chaos spawns with only a balanced knife and bolt pistol. Healing is also disabled.
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>>547228120
Unfortunately that does not align with Saber's vision
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>>547215401
Helmet.
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>>547215401
There won't be any particular order. I'll get everything in one sweep.
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>>547247418
>I'll get everything in one sweep.
But anon, you're capped to 1000 and there's like 2000 points worth of shit.
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>>547251280
If you accrue points the usual, then yes the system won't let you go above 1k. But you can get around that. Sky's the limit.
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>>547251616
*the usual way
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>>547251616
>the permamently banned guy now uses muh sikkrit club tactics
yawn
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How do you fags feel about the Alpha Legion being confirmed loyalists? They're just so high IQ that the Imperium never understands their esoteric warnings.
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>>547215401
I have Cheat Engine

I'll buy them all in one sweep

Then reinstall so I can play online again :)
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>>547253745
>hownew.ru
lurk moar bubba
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gonna be hilarious when these cheaters get banned for real and lose their 300+ hour sm2 accounts because they've upped security this time and won't tolerate cheater fucks
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>>547256167
I feel OH MY GOD SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE
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>>547257637
Nothing was ever outright confirmed until the most recent Dropsite Massacre book, which spells it out pretty plainly with zero room for doubt. The Alpha Legion are loyalists through and through, they're just playing the long game.
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>>547215401
Sniper
Hammer
Heavy Bolt Pistol
I use occulus, will see if the new instigator is better
Heavy Bolter
I haven't seen the new armor parts, got any pictures?
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>>547258181
>The Alpha Legion are loyalists through and through, they're just playing the long game.
tell that to the 100% chaos corrupted Alpha Legion of 40K proper
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>>547257082
>EAC

I wish
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>>547257082
Has anyone actually been banned
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>>547258515
Only those who cheated on PvP, no one was ever banned for maxing out gun XP, armoury data and unlocking accolade stuff for PvE
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>>547258361
post yfw dawn of war is the story of loyalist alpha legion failing to purge the chaos corrupted blood ravens presented by an unreliable narrator
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>>547258361
Just as planned.
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>>547258234
>I haven't seen the new armor parts, got any pictures?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0QGkQUmRE
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>>547259930
Did they update the previous heroic weapons with names instead of just "relic"?
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>>547261195
I don't believe so, no. Old ones are still generically named, but all the new stuff has unique names.
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>>547245441
is this the Ass Eaters chapter master?
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>>547256973
I've been in virtually every thread since launch and have no idea wtf you're talking about.
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>>547258181
They just WANT you to think that.
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just in case someone falls for the gaslighting
>>547271070 is not >>547253745 (me)
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>>547265268
Hopefully they patch it in later. It's an incredibly small but nagging detal
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>>547258515
Saber doesn't give a shit about cheaters unless they do it in PVP
People have been using Cheat Engine to artificially max out on requisition points and armoury
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Stratagems are gay and retarded
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>>547282850
How else would you increase playable content other than just hiring more devs to make more ops (which isn’t happening) ?
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>>547284428
What weapon
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>>547286074
Multimelta. But I switched to heroic plasma for the heldrake because melta cant reach it.
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>>547282850
Just play Bulwark
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>>547065664
I didn't really expect it to actually stick and also people just kind of did whatever early on. Not only it's good because someone actually created a site for it that works, but also because I absolutely wouldn't be able to keep it up. After all I only did it for like a dozen threads before someone took over and then the current DudeWall anon took over.
https://files.catbox.moe/49mbjy.png
This is the last full size one I have.
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>>547072753
>you can stunlock the fucking Trygon

172 Hours of playtime and I'm still learning new shit. also I'm starting to regret getting the Combi-Melta over the phase sword now that I'm starting to level Bulwark.
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>>547295335
Playing Bulwark doesn't help me kill the 4 zoanthropes, 2 biovores, neurothrope, and 3 lictors, one of which is invincible
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Exorcists > Grey Knights
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>>547303756
Carcharodons > Space Wolves
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Pay no mind to the multimelta detractors.
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>>547307334
Is the multi melta that good or are the people you’re playing with just that trash
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>>547307881
Both. But its really hard to not have top damage with multimelta because it has infinite cleave. It can chain stun majoris deathballs to death. You do have to steal every extremis execute to feed it though.
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what get? I feel like Adrenaline Boost is the only correct option here since it apparently doesn't have a cooldown.
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>>547309143
Practiced Aim so you can be less useless against thropes
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>>547303396
>172 Hours of playtime and I'm still learning new shit
Not surprising considering how bad this game is at telling you how it works
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>>547309143
>Adrenaline Boost
So you don't get fucked out of gunstrikes or charging
>Scrambled Targeting
So you generally have more fortitude
>Practiced Aim
So you can contribute to thropes
>Duellist or Fortitude
For blocking or more tankiness
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>>547312292
Definitely fortitude over duellist, duellist is a crutch at best and entirely useless when it isn't. Fortitude is a big improvement to your survivability if you ever get hit, because it also has several secondary benefits.
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>>547311525
nta but stunlocking trygon was surprisingly well telegraphed for saber
>space marines, use melta charges in this section
>space marines, use melta charges in this boss phase too
>HURR DURR I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I USED THE SPARE MELTA BOMBS, THE BOMBS SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR DEALING WITH BIG THREATS, ON THE BOSS
and I genuinely felt like a retard when I finally realized that after already beating it on absolute back when absolute was easy.
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>>547312292
obviously duelist. it's your insurance policy in case of a random lag, desync, mob of chaos spawns, or an idiot trying to attack enemies that aggro you.

fortitude is a null perk. the healthbar is nonlinear. once you have no armour you are going to lose that extra fortitude health as soon as soon as a warrior sneezes at you. strats and the difficulty also affect hp so you're getting diminishing results if you play on a proper threat level
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>>547313275
I honestly never think to grab the Meltas unless I'm near them and don't have a tactical feeding me free Kraks every 60s, just because they're slow AF to deploy and leave you vulnerable. fuck, I've been levelling Bulwark for a few days now just soloing and only just now figured out there's a charged attack with the power sword.

>>547311525
Honestly, this game does a better job then most at teaching basic game mechanics. what it fails at is all the nuances.

also the combi-melta is straight ass.
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>>547315078
>daily reminder high gothic is not latin
Obviously not because low gothic is latin
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>>547316609
it wot mate
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>*floats menacingly towards you but doesn't actually do anything*
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>>547317219
*suddenly starts side strafing and spamming the whirliest of attacks that make it hard as balls to track*
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>>547316445
did they never make the melta the default firing mode and zoom the bolter firing mode
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>>547094412
>pyrecannon which I liked but admittely its the worst primary in the game.

Retard detected. It's one of the strongest, can handle all enemies and shreds bosses.
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>>547319097
NTA, Pyreblaster is great. Pyrecannon has serious hitbox problems.
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>>547318337
not that I can tell. It's damage and RoF is hotdog water too.

>all the good damage perks are tied to headshotting
>can't zoom
gg sabre. also I hate how all almost all the ornate shoulder pieces obscure the chapter logos.
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>>547319097
he checks all the boxes
>thinks flamer is the same thing as the heavy flamer
>compares damage numbers
>doesn't use short controlled bursts for dot and situation awareness
>doesn't ads
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>>547094412
>inferno pistol
>bad

git gud at parrying. it's literally a mini-melta with how hard it staggers anything in the general direction you fire it, especially with assaults extra secondary weapon damage perks PLUS ITS OWN damage enhancement perks.
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He's making the retarded "power fantasy" defense too.
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I'm realizing the combimelta is such a lazy clusterfuck of a weapon.
Most glaring, it's mechanically a bolt rifle but visually an auto bolter and I assume they just outright forgot to add an ejection port for the bolter, it would also make way more sense for the melta to be underbarrel. It's not usable in the sparring arena either.
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>>547316609
High gothic numerals are represented by latin ones while low gothic numerals are standard arabic.
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>Commit active treason
>Weren't tricked, knowingly did that shit
>Imperium shrugged its shoulders and let you back in as a new Chapter
>Didn't even roll you into your original founding
How'd they do it?
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>>547323445
It's called being based.
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>>547323445
writer's laziness?
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>>547323445
Marines malevolent demonstrate you can get away with almost anything.
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The stupid shit that kills me in this game.
>but why did you throw a melta at a bunch of minoris
Forgot I swapped my frags.
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It's crazy how shit the heavy bolter is against chaos.
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>>547327917
Were terminators included in the list of chaos enemies that don't take headshot damage multiplier in 10.0? Because I don't remember the HB being that bad against them.
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Well, Brothers? What are you most excited for? :^)

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/votes/72-what-are-you-most-excited-for-in-the-new-reclamation-update
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>>547329032
Cosmetics, because I am the fashion queen.
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>>547329032
why, getting profiled and subscribing to the newsletter of course, my dear friend
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>>547327917
I don't remember the HB being that shit against CSMs

I'm guessing they've fucked up the headshot modifier somewhat
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>>547203124
I reject your terrible taste and horrible writing.

No. Tyranids are and should be weak and pathetic individually. Anything else makes no sense.
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>Chaos Spawn right in my face
>try to block their attacks
>it some how manages to miss me three times in a row
>can't block the attacks so I get stuck in recovery frames
>alt-F4
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>>547324830
THE RAPED
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>>547323445
The conflict was exclusive to the Mechanicus and allies, and the Imperium gave zero shits. Further, the Moirae believers were right anyways.
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Replayed SM1 today. Have to be honest, the run/sprint animation in this game is way better. The marines fucking haul ass in this one, and the screen shakes with every stomp.
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Let's see...
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>>547345502
>ACHECHA.jpg
impressive
very nice
now let's see NARERAN's profile pic.
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>>547345502
>>547345736
>Not sparing more than 3 men intesifies
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>>547345502
>>547346819
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>>547315078
The zaza got me speaking High Gothic.
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>>547346919
ROCK AND STONE
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Are there any better colors for the Exorcists? Fire Dragon Bright doesn’t feel right.
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>see a blood raven with just the perfect shade of red
>ask what color is that
>he says it's the color I've already tried but looked too saturated in the dressup room
thanks obama
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>>547353116
Standard. Colors that you see on your screen will look different from how others players see you. For some reason they can't make their engine display accurate colors across the board. Begs the question which colors ARE accurate to begin with.
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>>547353116
Baal Red is a good Blood Ravens shade. Looks pretty close to their DoW1 colors.
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>>547353352
>Kantor Blue exists
>CF aesthetic pack comes with a different blue
When that happens you know that your colors are not being displayed accurately.
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>>547356015
The colors are accurate the problem is the lighting on the battlebarge being bad.
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>>547356001
yes, that was the color. looks like when the update arrives i'll be running a braven again.
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>>547356001
>>547356712
you are late to this revelation >>540408684
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>Customization rework now over 3 million points
>Still no response from the devs
I feel like the one reason this hasn't got a response isn't because they're not trying, but because acknowledging the idea will set up expectations they can't hope to meet. So they're quietly whittling away with what they can change and hoping it'll be enough.
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>>547356842
yeah i guess i am
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>>547357697
good fucking lord they were really counting on this game becoming dead a few months after release, weren't they?
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>>547356842
I think Wazdaka is closer but the reality is I dont think GW makes a red that actually matches BR red without having to blend or layer.
I wish we just had a HSV colorwheel but I understand why they did the system the way they did.
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>>547358425
A desaturated version of their base color choice is correct. They are in fact a tomato orange-red.
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>>547359443
>a tomato orange-red.
NOOOOOOO
GIIIIIIIIIRLS
ALLOWEEEEEEEEED
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>>547359443
It doesnt help that the DoW2 colors are different from DoW1. Its a truer red and its closer to something between baal red and wazdakka red.
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>>547323445
Iron Hands are actually Alpha Legion in disguise. Treasonous, heretic and deceiving.
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>>547331258
I think there was one of those exploding flowers on the other side of that tree.
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>>547353116
You'd need the dressing room to have neutral lighting and a neutral gray background.
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>>547366162
Such wisdom. What a sage observation.
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>>547369032
Rude.
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>>547366162
>fuck around
>find out
>complain loudly
>....
>profit
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>hard weekly
>playing assault
>randos are vanguard and tac
>VG isn't using unmatched zeal
>Tac's using a melta rifle
>zoans fuck us in the jungle section
>barely scrape through
>neuro spawns in the oil field
>get frame trapped by neuro projectiles, lictor rush down combos, and ravener rush down combos simultaneously
>Tac runs ahead to the loadout pod
>"Oh good, he's gonna switch off his melta so he can actually fight the neurothrope."
>fucking dumb retard kept his melta equipped
>obviously dies seconds later
>VG respawns and sits there
>presumably waiting for us to respawn
>neuro isn't aggroed
>super lictor attacks him
>he lets himself get hit and lose most of his hp
>he literally went semi afk instead of keeping a constant eye on the screen and hand on controller
>panics and starts rolling ahead where the neuro is
>agros the neuro for no fucking reason
>there were no enemies left except the neuro and lictor
>so he could've backpedaled back towards the jungle and 1v1'd the lictor
>gets frametrapped by the lictor + neuro while rollslopping around in that loadout pod corridor instead
Ok. Fine.
I'll be the guy on fucking thrope clean up.
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>>547380029
Melta Tacts are fucking retarded outside of that 75% damage amp up close condition.
He has two melee squadmembers and want to focus on mobs instead of killing thropes with 3 shots from a stalker rifle?
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>>547380327
Yeah.
Bringing a melta rifle is one thing, but he had the chance to switch it and chose not to, with a neurothrope barreling down on him...
This is how bad pubs can be.
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>>547380882
Dumbass probably had meltas on all three loadouts
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>>547359739
>Implying the man hasn't memorized every shade in Citadel colors
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>>547359739
I would like to add that not only is SM2 missing tons of GW colors, GW itself is missing tons of shades and hues in their own paint line. Getting accurate colors from GW is extremely frustrating unless you're using their own tutorials.
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>Patch is next Tuesday
>But the new strategem conditions won't make it before there's a new one on Monday
I thought they did a complete repeat of the 1st week's this week in preparation for Patch 11, what are they going to do with Monday's strategem, another repeat or keep Inferno up an extra day?
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>>547358189
Every other game they've made basically has.
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>>547386051
Didn't the weekly hard refresh one time in the last couple of weeks after an update?
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>It's a melee terminator whiffs all attacks giving you no opportunities for blocks or gunstrikes episode
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>>547386796
I only remember that the very first Strategem, the one we have up now, only lasted like 3-4 days instead of a full week.
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I actually had a dream where I was playing SM2 and the Scarab Occult Terminators had a Power Fist variant that killed me in a single hit.
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>>547388351
>new chaos extremis enemy is a chaos terminator that spams the same power fist shockwave megahit that us players have
And other fun ways saber could make the game even worser
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>>547388351
You're a psyker, Anon.
You're seeing visions of future content ubdades.
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>>547386051
If they do a repeat the one that came after was an easy Termination map if I'm not mistaken.

The hardest weekly stratagems are the first one, the third one (Reliquary with -75% HP, more Extremis and one armour tab), Exfiltration with -66% HP and one armour tab, the one where you're forced to solo Exfiltration with Great Responsibility

I'm sure I've forgotten 1-2 hard stratagems that were actually hard
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>>547388591
Let's be glad that the Helbrute only has a plasma cannon instead of a twin-linked reaper autocannon or a krak missile pod.
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>>547388843
>Reliquary
You're thinking of Vox Liberatis with the extremis mobs because Weekly Strategems have not touched Reliquary and Vortex yet.
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>>547389223
Yeah you're right I got that one mixed up
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the second hard weekly was termination with no vanguard, more ammo and the buff that passes on randomly to each teammate
was pretty easy
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>>547358071
>he doesn't know
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>>547390386
i do. i just don't care enough to be checking archive sites
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Brothers, I have enough to get my first heroic weapon. Which should I go for? The burst bolter looks promising.
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>>547395709
I'd save your points for next week. The Heroic Sniper is easily the best of the bunch.
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>>547395709
Heroic plasma is the best (read; the only usable one) of the current batch. I would wait until next week for the bolt sniper or instigator as long as they didn't change them from the PTS.
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>>547395996
>>547396158
I don't play sniper though. Mostly Bulwark, Tact, or Heavy.
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>>547396516
>Not playing all the classes
You sicken me.
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>>547396516
Heavy has the heroic plasma and is soon getting his heroic heavy bolter. Heroic plasma is allegedly really strong and heroic HB is basically just an upgrade on its current stats so both are good power-wise.
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>>547396860
I don't see the point of it. If I want ranged face melting I'll just run Tactical Stalker.
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Playing a chaos mission without a Heavy running Melta or Plasma to stun the meatballs fucking sucks.
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>>547398976
Tact with Plasma Incinerator or Pyreblaster
Assault with Plasma Pistol
Vanguard with Melta Rifle
Sniper with Inferno Pistol as literally his only option, pure suffering

Bulwark doesn't give a fuck
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>>547399667
>Bulwark doesn't give a fuck
the typical bulwark player has temperature-level iq and doesn't run shock parries though
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>>547398976
just bring a block weapon
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>>547399953
>Defensive Advantage over Steel Within when Intimidating Aura exists and is better, and Steel Within is the most broken percentile-based damage resistance perk in the game
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>>547399953
I don't run shock parry, at least not anymore.
I just use the armor gain on non-lethal gunstrike.
A bulwark can basically run anything as long as he has Intimidating Aura.
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qed
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I FEEL
THE WARP
OVERTAKING ME
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>patch 11 has the Reclamation mission
>but the roadmap doesn't list the new Tyranid Primes as "new terminus enemy"
>but patch 13 does
I wonder what's left for us to kill
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I take back everything I said about the multi-melta being trash or bad
It doesn’t even do that much damage, but it lets you just play like a fucking retard hipfiring at everything while you run around
I finally beat the weekly hard strat…
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>no patch notes yet
>pts didnt even have the BA cosmetics unlocked so they couldnt be tested
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>>547415727
This is a clean Inferno run, did you not get any Terminus spawns?

Multimelta also stuns enemies that don't die.
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>>547422573
Patch notes always drop the day of the update, never before.
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What do you do if you wanna rep a chapter they didn't add yet?
Bonding stud pauldron?
Alpha legion emblem?
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>>547436106
Get the colors as close as I can and use the parent chapter badge if applicable.
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>>547436106
I always check to see if there's a shared emblem first. Novamarines and Sons of Medusa rock the exact same emblem, so they're completely doable. Then it's abusing bonding stud shoulders and chequered knees.
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>>547429318
Got a carnifex but no Thrope thankfully
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I still think a full spawn of 4 warriors with devourers is the scariest sight in the game.
chaos spawns are chumps compared to a squad of devourers.
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>>547440582
If I'm playing tac I'd fear the warriors with devourers more
If I'm playing heavy I'll shit my pants over the spawns
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>>547440696
You should still try and parry the spawns.
But those layered devourer shots would fuck anything short of a storm shield and iron halo.
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It's insane how many chaos visual indicators just fucking lie about where the attack is supposed to hit. So many ranged chaos attacks are ambiguous blob hitboxes with no discernible boundaries.
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>>547445480
I'm pretty sure the issue isn't that the animation lies about where the hitbox is in these cases, but that there is some wonky hit detection programming around AoEs and dodges from inside them. If you start outside that circle, I'm pretty sure you could stand right at the edge of it and be fine. Dodging out of it is what causes the issue, just like with ravener popups and carnifex claw pulls.
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The Emperor is gay.
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>>547445480
Deserved, Iron Fag.
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>>547452214
Fuck off Fulgrim. Go cry some more about how you topped Ferrus Manus.
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I am fortifying this thread.
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>>547471027
Fortify these nuts.
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saber is going to forget to add tyranid prime unlockables to the data vault
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>>547471918
>Forget
They just won't bother lmao
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Charged attacks should interrupt majoris heavy attacks.
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>>547474453
they do
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Don't dead open inside
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>>547476218
Sometimes.
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>>547482913
ASPECTS OF TZEENTCH LOOK LIKE THAT?
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>>547482913
>sfw
fucking coward
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>>547484301
It's hotter when the clothes are on.
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>go into quick match
>vortex
>ah, fuck it
>jump in
>two dudes are fighting the first group of enemies
>both already took health damage
>clean it up and go forwards
>they fuck over back to the ship for some reason
>jump down
>wave incoming
>clear most enemies but some also teleported behind them and one dude died
>they catch up eventually
>the indoors area goes well, until we get to the ruined part
>massive wave incoming
>I already jumped down and they stayed up
>clear all enemies that come my way, look back up
>that one dude died again, this time for good
>the other one is trying to avoid a bunch of spawns and is almost dead
>finally decides to jump down too so that I can kill them for him
>run out of ammo
>there's still a sorcerer up the ramp
>ground pound him twice
>unload 4 fully charged heavies
>it's not doing anything
>fucking saber, I bet it's not working cause he's flying 3mm above the ground or something, so melee attacks don't connect
>run around until the dead guy resurrects
>they kill him with ranged weapons
>we jump into the tzeentchy shit
>first area goes well
>second area is the one with the altar
>one of them immediately gets sniped
>I clear everything except minoris
>the other guy finally walks down the stairs to me and also gets sniped
And that's where I quit.
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>>547483646
Nah, this is just fanart. If you want to see a real lord of change, describe this image to an AI and see what it spits out.
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>fighting vortex beast
>OK, I know that lasers have fucked hitboxes, so instead of dodging at the last moment, I will double dodge early! This is perfect
>get hit by the laser way before it actually reaches me
Sasuga.
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>>547482913
>>547484376
Anthro girls with snouts are great because it's more surface area to kiss.
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ngl it would be pretty grim if the last post before the general died was furry degeneracy.
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>>547501706
nah
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>>547491181
More like more surface area to hit. Death to the mutants!
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I hope the next map will have multiple horde spawn points
I get more fun from fighting hordes than a new boss
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The techmarine is shaping up to be a well thought out class. Compared to others I mean, at least he's got actual synergies with his skills.
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>>547502149
I want a stratagem modifier that’s either constant hordes or regular hordes but x5 size
I want siege-level enemy numbers but siege is gay and boring
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>>547502343
Cool I'm really excited for the whole sentry turret feature
Engineer was my fav in TF2
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>get a fully charged thunderhammer aftershock off
>barely recover any CHP off of it
How the fuck do you bungle copying the rally mechanic from Bloodborne? It's a simple fucking concept; you hit something, you get a chunk of your health back, but instead they made it all backwards so ranged damage is the best way to recover it.
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>2 speedrunfags left me, the bulwark, alone with the neurothrope and extremis
>ran through every pack
>didn't bother helping with extremis
kill yourselves
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>>547504678
Always kick shield bash niggers

They should play solo if they want to rush ahead
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>>547504794
I meant that they ran through every pack and left me alone with the extremis
I use shield bash but I don't skip ahead through the mission to leave everyone alone
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>>547504417
basically saber realized it was bugged around patch 7.0. instead of making melee recover as much health as ranged, they asked the community if we wanted the ranged health recovery to be NERFED on par with melee; the feedback was so bad they never brought it again.
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>>547509624
So it's just spiteful game design then? Great.
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>>547510170
Thats just how Russians think.
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>>547510170
game too easy >:| -- Dmitry Grigorenko, Game Director
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>Sonygger joins the Decapitation daily strat as a sniper despite the bleary sniper modifier
>goes down, doesn't heal his wound despite having TWO stimms because I guess he believes he's an epic challenge runner gamer or something
>reach the boss, Hive Tyrant puts him down for five minutes leaving me and the Vanguard bot to fight the boss
>Vanguard bot goes down, leaving just me still up
>reach the second phase, get it to a sliver of health before I manage to fuck up and go down due to taking a bad gunstrike
>Sonygger leaves, allowing his bot replacement to get me back up and win the match
lol suck shit retard I'll be taking those 15 accolade points thank you very much.
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>>547510170
The devs are slowly turning SM2 into Fromslop, turning it into a le difficult melee game instead of a shooting action gallery

They despise players easily clearing maps and even when the playerbase balked at the first hard stratagem they all but told the players to fuck off

Any other AAA dev would have been bombed to oblivion if they did a quarter of what Saber did

Ukraine needs to bomb them more
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>>547512150
>made him ho home with nothing at the last second
Nice, brother.
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>>547512150
>forced to turn on crossplay otherwise the game's matchmaking will go haywire
>no option to simply exclude consoleniggers
>not fixing the netcode so that PC players don't sit in long loading screens especially during dead hours
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>>547516565
>turning on crossplay
>excluding console players
These are the same thing
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>>547519274
turning off crossplay puts you into a different matchmaking pool
it is not the same thing as excluding console players
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>>547519726
Wow really? If that’s true Saber is retarded. Source for that?
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>>547521060
Turn off crossplay and wonder to yourself why no one is joining.
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>>547521060
>Saber is retarded.
If only you knew how deep this rabbit hole goes Brother...
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>>547521682
I’ve played with crossplay turned off for the past 2-3 months and I’ve never had issues with my matches filling unless I’m playing at like 2am on a weeknight or something though.
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>>547515795
Say what you will about From sticking with the same formula for over a decade and a half, in those games whatever gets thrown your way is generally able to be mitigated without taking damage if you're good enough. SM2 absolute is just a question of when, not if, the game will put you in a situation where it is literally impossible to avoid taking damage. Like if a Neurothrope shows up in a shitty area where a Sniper and/or Tactical can't easily nuke it down in ten seconds (or if you just don't have either of those classes) it's almost a guarantee that between all the warriors, extremis and the boss itself putting AoE circles underneath your feet that you're gonna get frametrapped eventually.

I think the most egregious example of them taking ideas from Soulsbornekiroring without understanding why it works in those games are the delayed attacks on Chaos Spawn. In Elden Ring, delayed attacks can generally be avoided simply by running around the boss since they usually have limited tracking, like Margit's infamous overhead cane swing. It does not fucking work in Space Marine 2 where every attack tracks perfectly, and it especially doesn't work for what is supposed to be a basic bitch chaff enemy where you have to worry about like five other things at the same time.

If they wanted to distinguish the way you fight Chaos Spawn compared to Warriors they could have made it possible to stagger them out of their long-winded start-up frames with a melee hit, so instead of sitting there waiting for the attack to finally come so you can get your adrenaline surge stack/gunstrike, you can be proactive and strike first to knock them off-balance while they're telegraphing their next attack. This is really just an issue with the game overall, where the combat is mostly built around reaction rather than proactivity. Even striking first is usually just a way to goad the enemy into attacking so you can counter with a parry and actually do some real damage.
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If there's one thing that Darktide and Vermintide 2 have over this game it has to be the raplayability.
I just maxed out my Heavy, Assault and Tactical to TIV on a huge sm2 binge from last week to now and its so fucking mindnumblingly sad how boring the operations have become. I tried to play PVP but its also just so fucking boring, the siege mode is nice but one person always leaves before round 2 and I've only reached round 15.
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>>547536404
I stopped playing VT2 because I wasn't good enough to solo carry Cata. Playing with the same 6 brainless retards every match got old real fast.
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>>547536404
VT2 agreed
Darktide hell fucking no lmao, now get excited to play as a slop ganger
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>>547502343
Yeah there's a lot of mix/match shit you can do here, which makes him feel a lot more cohesive compared to everybody else who feels slapped together.

Marked Prey + Inflammable Rage sounds great for example. Bonus damage + burn.
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What are Techmarine’s prestige perks gonna be
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Anyone want to play some normal siege mode and kick back? im bored
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>>547548690
I would but it's 5am and my ass is preparing for work.
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Why dont we have a 6 player mode onslaught mode?
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Calling it, the customization rework is coming in Patch 13. It will be coming alongside the Progression Rework. My belief for this is that they'll have to rework the beginner cosmetic unlock progression where you acquire the set bundles after X Operations/X PvP matches.
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>>547549734
Someone remind me what the new pick-up is. It's a stimm that basically gives you a huge damage boost right?
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>>547549880
>huge
20% of your base melee damage (nothing)
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>>547549880
20% melee damage boost for 15 seconds.

Considered shit weak and not worth trading away a Melta or Shock Nades.
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>>547550016
>>547549986
It takes the place of grenades?
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>>547550340
correct
It is worse than worthless because it actively dilutes the pool of actually useful items that can spawn on a map.
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>>547550416
Feedback was pretty negative so I imagine it's gonna get a meaty bump. +50% damage and it'd be a niche but still worthy pick-up.
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>>547550416
>adding a class that practically revolves around grenades next patch
>add an equipment item that can't interact with one of his main grenade perks and also makes him less likely to find grenades he wants
nice
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>>547550986
The slavoid devs absolutely hated adding Secure Stockpiles to the point most maps don't even spawn Melta bombs anymore

This is just another step to flat out nerfing it
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>>547550828
if it was 20% final multiplier just for holding it, it would be good
it would need to be 2x damage if the want to keep it one use only
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>Assault can no longer claim the HBP and Thunderhammer as weapons unique to him
>Bulwark, the defensive tank, got powercrept into being a better offensive melee fighter than the premier offensive melee fighter class
>the overcharge perk was not only taken from his tree and given to Bulwark as a prestige perk with only a 5% decrease to the bonus damage, but functions better on Bulwark due to the bonus damage applying to every melee weapon and not just the Thunderhammer like it does on Assault
>this is only now getting fixed in the next patch despite it being like this for months, "hotfix" apparently isn't a word in Saber's volcabulary
>now the Thunderhammer is getting a heroic variant that will perform better on the Bulwark due to his shock damage perks
Has a class in any video game ever been so cucked?
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>>547502343
>Shoulder Gun Rocket Pod
>Shoulder Gun Las Cannon
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>>547557779
>>547502343
>Unique melee (Omnissian Axe aka Halberd)
>Unique ranged (Plasma Exterminator)
>Unique effect of activating sentry turrets
>Shoulder Gun comes in three flavors between bolter, rockets and las
>Then on top of that, it can deal plasma or fire damage
Everybody else needs a hard rework because I don't see a reason not to play this nigga if I want maximum variety.
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>>547558242
>Unique ranged (Plasma Exterminator)
Knowing non-english speaking developers, that might just be a funny trick of their coders calling something by the wrong name due to poor translation. They didn't mention any weapons aside from the omnissian axe. It's probably just the Plasma Incinerator
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>>547558924
I don't think so, the in-game line for the already existing weapon is pwpn_plas_incinerator, not exterminator.
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>>547558924
>>547559241
would be funny if this was like the melta rifle/heavy melta split, where you get the same weapon twice, with the same variants and perks, but you have to grind xp for it separately because fuck you
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>>547559580
Well here's hoping they give it a unique mechanic. It'd be cool if the Extermie instead laid down like a path of burning plasma on a full charge kinda like the Helbrute does. Obviously not as strong, but just deals DOT over time.
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Two more days, niggas. Shitpost about anything to keep the thread going, jeez.
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>>547567691
there's nothing wrong with allowing this thread to die and making a new one in 2 days. just open a different 40k general if you *have* to have something to lurk.
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>>547568027
>Browsing the /tg/ 40K general
No thanks, I actually like talking about 40K.
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For me? It's the Novamarines.
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>>547559895
Wouldn't get my hopes up. I'd just expect a middle-road weapon between the PP and PI in terms of charge speed and damage.
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>>547568027
>>547567691
Death is a natural part of the cycle, new threads are made, decay and then die.

Embrace death and decay.
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Shame that those are not going to be a part of any upcoming update, instead it's just a mod an Anon teased us with. We really eed more chapter-specific weapon skins.
>inb4 it's for space awoogas
It is hilarious though that a modder can do something like that in spare time what a skeleton crew can't in the span of a year.
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>>547574812
>grey weapons for space wolves
Just as retarded as the ultramarine heavy bolter being blue and the dark angels plasma pistol being green. Those colours go on the armour, not the weapons.
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>>547574812
I think the problem with SM2 is one of allocated resources. Instead of there being split teams between cosmetics, character balance, new levels etc. it feels like they all just do whatever they want, so nothing ever gets focused.
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>no gunstrike inferno
dis gon b fun
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>>547574812
If the skeleton crew did it you would complain that it's the wrong color, it's lazily reusing the runes from the champion chest, laurels do not make much sense for the furfags, and the bump mapping is low quality. Not to mention how furfags would never say anything like "for the emperor" as they have their own gay name for that dude like the techpriests.

Even if you have the excuse of being a hotpockets modder, you should at least fucking try.
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remember how we used to have a *real* black until update 3 or 4 instead of a few shades of very dark grey? today i learnt saber brought it back a year later as a tertiary-only dlc color.
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>>547585862
Eh it's that tacky shiny black so I hate it.

They need to fix the damn blacks for decals. It's like half-transparent, look at your shoulder with the squad role marking, it looks dark grey instead of proper black.
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>>547586160
All colours become shiny when on shoulder trim though, no?
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>>547586160
>Eh it's that tacky shiny black so I hate it.
well, it's okay if you don't like it, but that's exactly how it is supposed to look like, not that shiny grey it's in the game.
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>>547586423
Not all of them. Corvus Black for example remains a matte black on the trim. Angron Red is matte on the trim too.
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>>547586160
The black is only faded because of the garbage customizer lighting. In most missions it will look fine and actually black.

I'm more annoyed by how a lot of the times you can still faintly see the outline of the full decal even if you turn it partially transparent. Or how skulls keep the black eyes and the nose.
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>>547588606
>I'm more annoyed by how a lot of the times you can still faintly see the outline of the full decal even if you turn it partially transparent.
I embraced it instead
I was also amused by the transparent alpha legion decal trick for about a week, then decided it was cringe and never wore it again
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>>547502343
too bad you won't be able to play him for at least a couple of months after release as everyone else will be also trying to play him
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>>547589993
you're underestimating the number of people who are still prestiging their first class.
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>>547555256
Don’t forget there’s a new bug with the neurothrope where you can’t fly through its wall anymore
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>>547334548
that happens a lot and 100% of the time it gets me to waste a medkit or just downs me
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>>547585862
>>547586160
hide the outline of the decal and it's fine
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>>547592484
The outline becomes ghosted, as in it's like 2% transparent, and it still doesn't solve the black not being black enough.
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WHEN PATCH WHEEEN REEEEEE
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>>547605973
Tuesday, dingus.
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>>547606226
That's very gay
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>>547606226
Tuesday in Russia or Tuesday in the first world?
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>>547607023
neither. Tuesday in France.
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>>547606226
Is it Tuesday yet?
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>>547607217
Shit.
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>>547607217
Petition to demote France to the first fourth-world country
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>>547608390
petition approved
I listened to a 40K audiobook the other day and was shocked to find out it was a french period drama disguised as warhammer
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>>547559241
>>547559580
>>547559895
I thought that the servo-arm would get the plasma gun so I thought that the name being different reflected that.
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>>547618902
Nah, it's listed as a primary. His servo arm gun has entirely different listings.
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>>547619581
>Plasma Incinerator: Two handed
>Plasma Exterminator: One handed
So it's bigger than a plasma pistol but smaller than the incinerator.
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>>547585586
Man, when was the last time you played Siege? Some great unlocks we have there eh? Pick your color a'la Mass Effect 3 ending (sans green). Devs ARE lazy fucks, they never expected the game to blow up like it did. And I'd take that modded skin with (oh the horror) laurels and "for the emperor" over:
>"here are three colors, tee hee, have fun unlocking the same 3 skins for every gun, hee hee"
Drip fed content my ass, as if there's meaningful free content to grind for in the first place...
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>>547621076
Siege was a mistake. It should never have been added and the resources should have been used to create more operations instead. It wasn’t fun for more than a few hours in Space Marine 1 and the same applies here.
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>>547585586
>furfags would never say anything like "for the emperor"
>as they have their own gay name for that dude
They... what? Please tell me there's no 'wolf' in the name
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>>547621760
>mfw it's actually Allfather
good, I liked playing Disciples II too
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>>547621760
They call him Allfather like he's Odin because they're obnoxiously scandinavian
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>>547585586
>If the skeleton crew did it you would complain that it's the wrong color, it's lazily reusing the runes from the champion chest
Anything that expands customization is a welcome addition. You wouldn't hear me complaining about it that's for sure. It would probably be more polished that's for sure, even if done by a handful of people.
>laurels do not make much sense for the furfags, and the bump mapping is low quality
I get it, but you're nitpicking too much, it's a mod at the end of the day, so quality will be subpar. Though let's be honest, Saber haven't set the bar very high - see IF shoulder pads phasing into power packs, non-editable kneepads on champion skins, tabards missing for no reason, to name a few. There's not much QA despite their claims I'm afraid and that's without opening another can of worms that is weapons/enemies balance, necessary skills rework, UI tooltips are all over the place. The list goes on.

Saber might spin the tale and have players believe how SM3 hasn't sucked resources out of SM2's development but it's obvious to anyone blessed with the gift of sight and ability to draw logical conclusions that the latter is running on fumes.
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>>547621714
>Siege was a mistake
>PvP was a mistake
ftfy, Siege has its problems but a spending a second on PvP in a co-op game should call for a serious wave of layoffs.
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>>547622757
PvP could've been cool and all they needed to do was copy the first game
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>>547622757
wasn't pvp wildly succesful in sm1 and people play it to this day?
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>>547622886
True, but you can make the same argument for having a clone of Exterminatus mode from the first game as well. Saber just aren't good at conveying cool concepts into their own title, and it would've been easy to just copy and build upon it.
They have a whole team of developers after all.
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Russ is going to come back and in an ironic twist, be missing an eye.
Plus he'll stop acting like a savage and behave like a wizened old man.
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>>547624326
i wouldnt even be mad
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>try to play on lethal
>theres always atleast one fucking retard who runs past the entire team while 2-3 extremis enemies are floating around

Holy fuck why is this so much worse than ruthless? even the players in ruthless arent this retarded
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>>547629535
>why don't i have problems specific to fighting several extremis at once at a difficulty level where only one extremis can spawn
the most intelligent imperial fist player
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>>547629535
idk i only play absolute
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So there's no point doing this week's hard stratagem until the new patch goes live.

You're wasting 200 points for nothing if you're already maxed out.
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>>547630057
if you are maxed out, there's no point in doing any strategem, daily or weekly, hard or normal. Otherwise, you should make sure to complete all the weeklies and dailes before tue 12 gmt to get twice the accolades after the reset.
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>>547630057
I did it just to prove to myself that I'm better than how I was when Strategems first dropped.
The first time it took me 5 tries
This week it only took 1
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Best heavy setup? Just maxed out my first class
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>>547631428
>First column: Depends on your primary
>Second column: Depends on your primary
>Third column: I've been using Overwhelming Power but I'm not sure if my team even stays close to me
>Encompassing Aegis is strong as hell but if you're just clearing lower difficulties than take Ammo
>Fifth column: Consecutive Execution if your Tact doesn't have stockpile. I try not to use up all my iron halo if I can help it so Adamant Will
>Sixth column: Obdurate Bastion
>Seventh column: Brute Force but I am curious about Wrath
>Conversion Field
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>>547631428
Encompassing Aegis and Additional Supplies are generally interchangeable but you will probably want Additional Supplies because all of Heavy's weapons are very ammo hungry except for heavy bolter. For prestige perks; Auxiliary Reload, Conviction, and Indomitable Spirit are all basically mandatory. Your 4th prestige perk can be Reverberating Impact or Duellist.
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>>547631428
This >>547632069
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>>547631428
>Heroic plasma
>Heroic HBP or rapidfire plasma pistol
>Restoration, fortitude and overwhelming power if HBP or versatility if plasma secondary
>Encompassing aegis
>Consecutive execution, field adjustment and brute force
>Offensive capability
>Auxiliary reload, conviction, duellist and indomitable spirit
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>>547631428
First column: 2nd one if Multimelta, top one for everything else, third one is trash
2nd column: 3rd one is the best since it'll let you get all of your CHP back and you'll be in heavy mode most of the time anyway
3rd column: 3rd one for the rest, 1st one for meme melee Multimelta, 2nd one is trash
Team perk: Encompassing Aegis or Additional Supplies depending on the mission and main weapon, accuracy heavy bolter does not need Additional Supplies but Heavy Plasma, Multimelta and Heroic heavy plasma do
5th column: free grenades after 7 fast kills
6th column: Iron Halo durability, everything else is trash
7th column: 3rd one is the best since it explodes and kills most enemies/puts them in red
Signature: Conversion Field so you'll replenish Iron Halo faster as well as your other teammates' perks, the melee shield is useless even if you're a meme melee Multimelta user and the 2nd one is garbage

Prestige perks: Stomp damage, stomp radius, Extremis magazine replenishment and less health damage if you lose all of your shields
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>>547632069
This yeah, this is exactly what I run too
Honestly I wish that prestige perks were swappable like regular perks were, because the Pyrecannon really needs the stomp radius + melee damage perks, but they’re not really worth it on any other gun and I’m not dropping 500 requisition to redo my prestige perks every time I feel like playing Pyrecannon
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>>547630482
>if you are maxed out, there's no point in doing any strategem, daily or weekly, hard or normal.
I have beaten all hard stratagems and I maxed out on accolades via CheatEngine day 1.
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>>547632069
>>547632805
>be Heavy
>most shootiest class
>always running out of ammo outside of the heavy bolter
>have to melee execute an Extremis just to get one (1) magazine back
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>>547638571
20%
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>>547638571
>have to melee execute
>as if there’s any other way to execute in the game
Just secure those Extremis kills before anyone else does. You’ve got the strongest guns in the game, shouldn’t be an issue.
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>>547642582
Yeah it is kinda retarded that it isn't just on extremis kill instead. They really want to force the melee heavy meme so bad and I dont know why.
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>>547643449
… how is that forcing the melee heavy meme? Boosting melee damage has nothing to do with executions, you just have to be within like 20 feet. Odds are you have a Vanguard with the Extremis heal perk and you should be grabbing every single Extremis execution you can anyway.
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>>547644851
Theres two other players that are also going to grab extremis executes even more so with vuanguard on the team. Theres literally no good reason heavy doesnt get ammo from extremis kills ranged or executes.
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>>547642582
>>547643449
>>547644851
>>547645427
Heavy should be the one class that should never worry about ammo yet that fell to the Tactical.

The heavy bolter, heavy bolt rifle and pyrecannon should have gotten 2x their base ammo while everything else should have gotten 3x-4x the ammo.
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>>547645427
I mean I guess
Most of Heavy’s weapons function at or are best at execution grabbing range so it’s never really an issue in my experience, but I get what you’re saying
I’ve just never personally killed an extremis by shooting it to death, I’ll do that with Majoris if there’s a couple in execute at a time and I’m at full armor, but I don’t think I’ve ever shot a Lictor to death in like 300 hours of playtime, I’m taking that execute every single time
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I just remembered the assault jetpack attack they're adding. They haven't said anything about it have they?
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>>547655464
It was booty cheeks in the PTS and they said they’re gonna redo it for live
That’s all we know for now, we’ll find out soon
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>>547656521
>radio silence after they said they'd do something about it
Let's take some bets, will it be even more fucking useless or surprisingly strong?
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>>547659935
As long as it’s tied to jetpack dodge usage it’s gonna be unusable trash unless you’re running a wings of flame build, and in that case you usually dodge past an enemy, so dashing and attacking even further away from the guy you want to kill is counter-productive
Unless you can spin a full 180 while doing it I don’t see a point even with a dedicated jetpack dodge build
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>>547659935
>>547660242
Also in my humble opinyot the only way they could make it good in the current framework is to make it do an insane amount of single target damage - and only to a single target. The problem right now is that, ignoring wings of flame builds, why the fuck would you spend a jump pack charge to approach an enemy with a dash attack when you could just do a jump and a ground pound for more damage instead? If they instead made the unique jump pack dash attack do a huge amount of single target damage, then you would get to choose between spending a charge to do a large amount of AOE damage, or spending a charge to do an even higher amount of damage but only to a single target. This would open up a lot of depth and flexibility to Assault I think.
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>they repeat the Minoris, Suboptimal state Exfiltration mission
KWAB

When is the update?
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>>547661245
Tuesday
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Is KWAB meant as like
“This situation is a bitch, life is unfair”
Or is at meant like
“The person responsible for this thing is a bitch, I think they suck”
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>>547667521
The latter
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>patch tomorrow
>PTS already gave us full insight what the content's gonna be
>bugs will probably carry over into live version
>itsallsotiresome.jpg
I'm fooling myself thinking Saber are actually going to put something beyond what was in PTS, but it'll be surprising if they even manage to implement bug fixes.
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>>547645642
>tactical gets to have infinite ammo, top single target damage and crowd clear at the same time with one loadout using a single gun and fencing
>heavy can go fuck himself
>sniper can go fuck himself
I hate saber.
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>>547671748
The PTS was a mistake, it just delays content by a month and nothing anybody reports really gets fixed. The only change we're gonna see in this one guaranteed is Assault's new dodge attack being buffed so it's not comically bad, instead it's probably just gonna be regular bad.
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>>547676228
>>547671748
It's strange this happens when the whole purpose of a PTS is the early detection of problems before a patch goes live
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Every time I use fencing I am reminded that balance just shouldn't exist. Late parries do not work with the shit this game regularly throws at you.
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>>547678721
>when the whole purpose of a PTS is the early detection of problems
the whole purpose of a PTS is to buy saber extra time to finish the work on the release. They don't start fixing bugs before 11.0 is shipped.
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>>547676057
Sniper and Heavy's ammo are tuned for Ruthless, not Absolute
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>>547678752
>this would suck with balanced
laughs_in_heavy.jpeg
that's why you should equip a plasma or a melta pistol when your primary is stalker tho
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>>547679351
Heavy's stomp is fucking slow and gaunts easily sneak hits in the gaps, not to mention simply killing gaunts with stomp doesn't give you one armor per kill like parries with fencing.
>that's why you should equip a plasma or a melta pistol when your primary is stalker tho
A secondary weapon at all is completely unnecessary for stalker tactical with fencing.
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>>547678752
Who the fuck runs knife on Tactical?
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>>547678752
>Assault eats shit in hard strat
Instant kick
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I hate Chaos Spawn so much it's unreal.
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>>547681993
someone who complains about getting overwhelmed by gaunts of all things
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>>547671748
When does the patch go live?
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>>547682521
in two weeks
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is there a pic of all the stuff that comes with the patch tomorrow?
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>>547682498
>someone who complains about getting overwhelmed by gaunts of all things
Can you point to who did that?
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>>547682780
Near enough everything shown here to my knowledge. Only models missing are the sniper, pistol and Instigator.
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>>547683398
Wasn't there also a laurel-less MkVII?
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>>547683398
This is beyond the 1000 accolade limit...are these all going live tomorrow?
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>>547683006
yeah, the nigger.
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>>547683802
Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?
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>>547683603
Yes, all of them. You'll get 3 Heroic weapons or 2 Heroics + 2 cosmetics.
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>>547683963
you literally posted your hand.
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>>547684106
The iron hand is white?
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If you camp as a multimelta heavy in pvp, you're a nigger.
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>>547682521
It's usually 3am pst.
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>buy immediately
Mk7 with no laurel
Heroic heavy bolter
Heroic bolt sniper rifle

>wait
everything else
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>>547684896
I really like all the new helmets so I'm getting 3 cosmetics and the Heroic Sniper.
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>>547684896
>>547685126
Keep in mind that after you spend, you can do both the hard and normal weekly to immediately get an additional 350pts. Not to mention all the dailies for an additional additional 75pts, totalling at an extra 425pts to spend with on launch day.
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>>547685653
nta, but
>hard whatever
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>>547684667
if you have a multimelta in pvp then you have too much free time
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>>547684896
desu
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>>547683398
The Vet Bolt shoulder ended up being one of my fav new editions in the PTS. Goes great on Vet Sarge Ultramarines.
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>>547678752
or you can just swing and stagger all of them
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Troon confirms time. Morning for Euros, like 3am for Ameriliards.
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>>547690838
That's not how melee works in this game, attacks have very limited damage arcs and a hard cap on how many enemies can be damaged per attack, most melee enemies also have lunge attacks that let them easily strike from outside the range of someone just flailing like a retard.
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>>547692542
>a skull crusher wouldn't knock back the majority of them and let you get an instant parry
you can just say you don't play balanced
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>>547692542
Skull Crusher Left/Right literally has an invisible attack hitbox like three times the length of the knife.
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>>547691953
>troon
he doesn't know
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>>547693703
All women on the interest are troons until proven otherwise.
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>>547692828
>>547692634
>attacks have very limited damage arcs
This means when you're surrounded and you attack your attacks are usually only staggering enemies in front of you at best and the ones you didn't stagger tend to jab you.
>hard cap on how many enemies can be damaged per attack
This means your attacks cannot stagger an infinite number of enemies per attack and large swarms will be able to just force their way past your attacks.
>most melee enemies also have lunge attacks
This means melee enemies have attacks that they can initiate from outside of the range of your melee attacks to cover a lot of ground and still hit you.
Further, enemies will often strike in the gaps between your hits.
Attacking minoris swarms with balance often forces you to choose between trading with minoris(bad) and getting stuck in infinite late parry cycles(not as bad).
I hope this helps.
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>>547694332
hey buddy, you're supposed to parry after the skull crushers
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>>547695431
Hey buddy did you notice how in the webm three minoris attacks landed in the middle of the first skull crusher combo?
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>>547695641
Hey buddy did you notice how you got gunstrikes off the hits that you would have time to do and refill your health after you parry?
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>>547695761
>gunstrike while minoris are wailing on you
You do not play absolute. You probably don't even play this game.
But if you do play this game I'm sure you can play smarter than that if you tried.
Gunstriking in the middle of multiple minoris attacking you allows them to do more damage than one armor block, gunstriking minoris also refills very little health. Parrying in the middle of a bunch of minoris attacking you with balance puts you into a late parry cycle.
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>>547696135
>>gunstrike while minoris are wailing on you
Hey, guess what the parry does to all the minoris around you?
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>>547696389
It does jack shit
>>547678752
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>>547696637
>my fencing doesn't knock them back and since i play literally nothing else but my safety net i don't know that balanced does stagger a dozen gaunts around you when you parry
thanks for playing
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>>547696715
Maybe if you played the game you'd actually know what the mechanics are you fucking moron.
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The surgical strike daily is genuinely harder than the weekly.
Surgical strike sucks.
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17 hours till patch, niggas.
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>>547698803
But if you're not playing balanced it's just free damage
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What's the shit flinging over this time?
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>>547694332
I’m willing to bet you’d have only lost about half the HP you lost here if you just didn’t decide to stare directly at the 6-7 hormagaunts shooting at you
You know enemies get a lot less accurate if they’re off-screen right?
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>>547707385
>if you weren't intentionally putting yourself into a bad situation you would have taken less damage
You think so?
>half damage
Nah, termagants do a small fraction of a hormagaunt hit.
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>>547678752
if you had brought a pyre instead of a stalker you could just left click and spin and that entire crowd would be dead
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>>547708765
I can't blame a Tact for bringing a stalker in a tyranid mission. You can't expect teammates to kill zoans nearly as quickly unless you queued up with a sniper.
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>>547709295
This is a good meme
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>>547709295
We live in such a psychotic timeline that pregnant male emoji exists and was created as an unironic supportive statement.
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>>547708910
You can't trust pubs at all.
Most matches I'm with snipers and tacs, sometimes both in one hard strat. No matter how much cover I give them musouing the other 90% of the horde by myself, they always die and leave me to deal with the thropes as well anyway.
Then I pick sniper, and all of a sudden thropes aren't an issue anymore somehow.
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>>547706269
over tryharding. he posted a webm with a meme colorscheme (Iron Hands) AND a meme power fantasy loadout (tactical with bolter and knife) AND continued to have a meme opionion (at this point, basically irrelevant).
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An in-game cutscene even shows you a regular astartes getting swarmed by tzaangors when he was forced to defend himself with his knife.
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>>547709629
it's a joke anon.

labor

of love

get it?
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>>547709295
I do not wish to show my support. And I don't regret it.
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>>547713292
I'm just talking about the existence of the emoji.
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>>547712213
First founding color schemes are not meme color schemes unless you're doing pre-heresy heretic color schemes I guess.
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The patch drops early in the morning but how long will the maintenance be?
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>60% off
yay or nay?
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>>547716231
bout tree fiddy
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>>547716469
well worth it in my humble opinion
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>>547717203
>humble
what are the chances this ends up in the humble choice? it's my biggest fear
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>>547716469
I don't buy woke games but if you're into playing the same 5 missions over and over like an autist as you grind for unlocks, it's good value. The single player campaign is just meh and like 6 hours long.
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>>547718721
why are you here m8
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Place your final bets. Tomorrow is the day we find out.
>1. Something we should have done long time ago
>2. Something we said we are going to do, but nobody noticed
>3. Something we said we are never going to do
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>>547716469
Absolutely
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>>547719176
I thought customization stuff was due in 2 more patches
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>>547719267
why
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>>547719354
Did it say customization was due for tomorrow's patch?
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>>547719134
that's the guy you are arguing with
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>>547719580
unless they make a brand new patch before december 31st, yeah
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>>547719134
Same reason as you. What kind of a stupid question is that?
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>>547720185
hopefully we'll get 11.1 by december 31st, but i doubt it will include the customization rewrite
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>>547720596
most people here play the game my dude.
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PVP Chaos customization is getting some more options.
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weren't they meant to do some kind of post-PTS blog? getting a bit late for that
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>>547720596
What about (You)? why are (You) here?
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>>547720765
...and?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upP0LDjYeDE
Wave 71 has a 2 minute timer lmfao.
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>>547723573
Obvious engine limitations aside this looks like lots of fun. A sentiment not shared by powers that be at Saber, sadly...
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>>547723573
2 squads of 6 men
I can spare at least that much
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>Tactical with the contested health perk
Practically zero situations or excuses for this
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>>547720185
You sure that's not "over the course of [2026]"? Because if we get these customization boosts tomorrow, I can only assume it's some very minor things that will do nothing but delay proper overhauls that are actually needed.
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>>547725527
Are you saying they should have it? Word your posts better, brother.
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>>547725527
I haven't taken off the grenade perk since I unlocked it.
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Oh, the weekly is just a repeat of the 2nd weekly.
Guess it'll be free accolades this week after the patch.
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I'm going to miss the Multi melta heavy stance glitch so much, brothers.
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>>547728806
Me too, I had literally just changed my opinion about it being total dogshit just a week ago until it got me through the last hard weekly
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New Battle-barge is ready Brothers. Hop in!

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>>547729917
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>>547720596
I think his question was, if you don’t like the game enough to recommend it to someone (on sale even), then why are you playing it and hanging out in a community dedicated to it?
That sounds indicative of cognitive dissonance.
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>>547730214
But I did recommend the game, didn't I? And I don't "hang out" here, I just come to check once in a while if there's any more dangling carrots added or not.
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>>547723950
Clean your mould lines.
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>>547683398
are laurels on helmets an "ultramarine only" thing or can other marines use them as well?
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>>547731214
Blood Ravens use it.
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>>547730927
Oh, yeah I reread it and you did. Fair enough.
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>>547709295
>Labor of Love
>SM2
Delusional vatniggers



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