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Welcome to the Dragon Quest General! Everything related to the Dragon Quest series, and Blue Dragon series, is discussed here.

Ugly Old Man Edition
Last Thread: >>546151090

>News
• Dragon Quest Smash/Grow, a Roguelite RPG for Android & iOS. Closed beta ran from October 14, 2025 to October 21, 2025.
• Dragon Quest VII Reimagined. Launches February 5, 2026, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.

>Now Available
• Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.
• Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.
• Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai. Available on PS4, PS5, Switch, and PC.
• Dragon Quest Treasures. Available on Switch and PC.

>Other Updates
• Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of Fate. Officially announced, title revealed. No further details yet.

>Guides:
• /dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2
Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqv
• DQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/Monsterpedia
• Dragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0Ypme
• DQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201
• DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS

>Links:
• ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2S
• Anime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuzi
• Music: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa
• 日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/
• DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW

>OP
https://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ

>BROTHERS IN ARMS
>>>/vg/eagg/
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How are we so trash at linking to the next thread?
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>>547088489
why was bouquet anime only fuck
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>rapthorne gets desperate attack on my mc, killing him
>gets another the next turn on angelo before he can revive him
>gets another on Jessica before she can revive angelo
>no leaves on yangus
>game over
:(
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AWOO
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Knight Aberrant on Draconian is lame. There's no real strategy beyond spamming Cop Out and hoping that he doesnt hit through that and your Phantom Mask/Stealth Suit.
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What lvl were you at the ghost ship in 2hd? I’m 38 and my team just gets wiped over and over again.
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>>547109705
He's like a level 50 boss
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https://www.gematsu.com/2025/11/dragon-quest-vii-reimagined-emberdale-and-wetlock-hands-on-gameplay-screenshots
With all this Aishe shilling, just how early is she going to join?
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>>547111836
I guess that makes sense is there a good place to grind metal slimes at this point? What about the red hair boss? What level for her? I wiped 7 times to her and decided to try other goals for a bit.
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>>547113863
Slime island is the little island south of Moonbrooke you just need to get rid of the shoal blocking it.
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>>547113035
20 Shared Vocations + 1 Unique Vocation
No signs of costumes
Monster Hearts have been reworked to accessories.
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If you don’t dress your cousin up in a bunny suit then what are you doing?
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I've never heard anyone simping for Aishe. She's a non-character. I'd go as far as to say she's the least popular female companion in any of the games period.
Moonbrooke trumps her, twins and tomboy trump her, the three wives trump her, the bimbo and street meat trump her, stinky blows her out of the water, tits and umamusume trump her, the gyaru trumps her, the flatty trumps her, the other twins trump her, Jade trumps her.
Nobody has Aishe as a favourite.
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>>547115617
She's just a filler character for the last part of the game. So it looks like Re exists to give her a real character.
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>>547115510
Don't bully your poor innocent cousin!
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>>547115863
The most interesting part of her is her being a descendent of your best friend which I don't remember them doing anything with in the original or 3ds games. Maybe if they double down on the Aishe x Keifer stuff in the remake and make him like a father figure to her it could work but none of the ground work has been set out
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>staff of resurrection fails 5 times in a row
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Rough playtime for the trilogy, excluding autistic shit like getting all the items or hitting level 99. I&II are very long when put together.
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They will still release 12 on switch 1 right?
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>>547120904
DQ12 will release exclusively on Android and iOS.
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https://youtu.be/dCWzK6YtNow?si=hlHzweLVvwMWXsk4
Famitsu version. They went through the vocation screen at the end.
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>>547122102
in 2028
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lunagriff can run out of mp right?
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>>547125123
I think all of the bosses in the remakes can. I don't remember off the top of my head if he did for me, but I'm leaning towards yes because Miracle Moon is expensive.
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>>547125519
mariella regens hers
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>>547125123
The trick with Lunagriff is to tickle him with the princess of cannock he can't do anything.
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ok im a fucking brainlet, how do i procced on the 1st dungeon in rendarak? im stuck, i think it has something to do with the torches and green lanterns, but i dont fucking know what
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>>547127576
fuck it i just searched it online i think i actullay went everywhere but just didnt notice the ladder
this dungeon seems long as fuck
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I've contributed so much to the Leftwyne economy
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any updates on the dqg game?
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>>547093284
>he didn’t invest in Humanity enough to get Kerplunk
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They should drop Toriyamas artstyle and go with Odas artstyle for DQ 12
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>>547135410
No thanks.
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>>547135410
Let him fucking finish One Piece first, please.
Bad enough he takes breaks to consult on the live action
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>>547135410
oda hasn’t had good art in 20 years
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>>547137936
Kyarotto...
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They should cycle through Toriyama's previous artstyles. The promotional art for HD2D remakes already does a good job of replicating his mid 90s art.
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>>547137119
Shit taste
>>547138539
He peaked in Dressrosa which happened less than 10 years ago, DQ 12 would look better with Odas artstyle
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>>547115617
I think it has more to do with the game: Dragon Quest 7 than it has to do with her character. Reminder that DQ7 got completely mogged by Final Fantasy 7 on the Playstation in terms of production quality. Even DQ6 was more popular than 7.
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>>547138724
I like his art fine, but it shouldn't be doing DQ just because he's a popular manga guy. DQ should look like DQ. Oda should get his own game series to work on.
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>>547138724
Everything has been downhill since Thriller Bark. I would rather one of Toriyamas imitators do the art like the one that draws for Dokkan.
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I’ve finished my draconian runs and I’m desperate for more DQ or at the very least a DQ-like. Should I try Mature Quest?
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>>547139654
Try Shining in the Darkness and/or Shining the Holy Ark. They're dungeon crawlers but play like nearly 1:1 DQ clones otherwise and are very sovlful.
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>>547139654
The Magic of Scheherazade
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>>547135410
I would legitimately stop playing future DQ games if they did this.
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>>547139923
>>547140078
Thanks for the suggestions.
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>>547140745
I think Disgaea 2 also might be worth checking out compared to others in the series but its a strategy rpg.
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>>547135410
I'd much rather just have Toriyama copycats.
I like One Piece, but Toriyama created the best artstyle ever and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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>>547142120
One Piece has the greatest artstyle ever created in the history of fiction and One Piece Odyssey looks very good in terms of both graphics and artstyle, not that Toriyamas artstyle is bad though
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So it begins...
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>>547143997
The girls are more likely to die than him in this game the further you get.
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>>547143804
Major dicksuck
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>>547139016
It also doesnt help that Aishe doesnt exist until like the ass end of the game.
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>>547115617
If it weren't for her being so far behind on classes, I'd use her over Ruff/Gabo.
Stupid dog has nothing interesting to say ever
>I'm hungry, let's get something to eat!
>Music? What's that, is it food?
>Grrr this person bad because they mistreat animals!
His only good party chats are when he gets Maribel to start yelling at him.
Too bad for Aira though that Kiefer comes back this time, as I'll end up using him over her.
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im suppose to believe the king of drikandor is stronger than some of hargons minions?
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>>547148842
All the king parents of the heroes are just as strong as him
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>>547148636
Reimagined is giving her to you much earlier based on the previews, so I expect a lot of people to do Hero/Maribel/Kiefer and one of Aishe/Meryvn/Gabo for the last spot.
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>>547088489
Isn't this Bouquet from Blue Dragon? What is she doing on your thread's OP?
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>>547139016
DQ7 is far more popular in Japan. It sold 4 million over there. Western players don't have the same patience for 7's meandering and childish plotlines but the Japs adore having a cast of characters where the only characters with personality are absent for half the story.
I don't really like 7's lineup anyway. They kinda had something going with the childhood friend trio and I do think Ruff and Maribel are quite funny together but Mervyn...? Aishe...? C'mon...
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>>547157176
I'd genuinely like to see Aishe and Keifer interacting more. Just watch as Keifer only becomes available in the postgame or something lol
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>>547157750
Don't talk shit about my based old man Melvin
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>>547158176
Why is some dull old dweeb travelling with a bunch of children? He's God's favourite little knight but he just comes across like a decrepit creeper. Do the kids even like him? I don't want him in my party
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i drop Melvin at the end of the game so he can stay in the heavens while i go around the world with maribel, ruff, and aishe.
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>>547160507
He treats us with respect and high regard, he makes for a great character to have alongside Maribel so you get both praised and berated. He also has fun dialogue in regards to other old men, like the ones that have the hots for the teen that runs a nursing home for them.
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what level did you beat 2hd at? im 47 currently
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>>547160785
You're too underleveled he can one shot your ass with more damage than your total HP
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>>547163943
On Draconian Quest:
Lv.50 for Malroth
Lv.80 for all of Xenlon's wishes (and was severely overleveled for the rest of the postgame)
Lv.99 after grinding out the war drum and falcon blade of ruin for a perfect item list
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>>547164767
He can only OHKO with a crit.
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Can you steal from Liquid Metal’s in 2 HD?
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>>547167541
Yeah
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Does DQ3 HD really have to play the full intro for the overworld map theme every single time? Couldn't they just limit it to the first time when you load the file up or something?
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>>547169381
People complained when XI only had the intro in one cutscene
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>>547170019
Those people are dumb. The intro is too overblown to be used every single time. Once is all any DQ game needs.
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>>547171682
I'm pretty sure HD-2D is the only version of the game that does it like that.
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>>547172252
It isn't. The mobile version and the ports based on it did that too.
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>Young maiden-thine own fate is one less...straightforward in its path... Hmm... Yesss...
>Hee hee hee! I see, I see!
>But fear not-he whom thou lovest best loveth thee in return, there can be no doubt of that! None at all! Hee hee hee!
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Just finished 8, that was so fucking good. IV might still be my favorite but its close.
The whole thing with the final fight was kind of weird to me though. You go through the whole final dungeon, fight the big bad's first form and then the game sends you on a fetch quest to places you've already been. Felt a little anticlimactic.
The little epilogue with the princess at the end was really sweet.
How is the postgame? Worth going through?
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>>547180268
It sheds some light on a couple of aspects you may have questioned throughout the game, and unlocks a slightly different ending.
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Am I a loser If i play 1 on dracky quest?
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>>547182807
Yeah
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>>547183043
:( but im level 24 and stuffs kicking my ass outside the mini medal manor... I was winning the original 1 at level 18
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>>547182807
It's not that hard on normal
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>>547180268
There is a little more story worth seeing. The boss is a gauntlet of forms, tough but very satisfying to beat.
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>>547183212
It's a fundamentally different game, you can't apply the same rules to it.
That said, after playing it once on Draconian I'll never play it that way again. What a pain in the ass.
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i finally beat hargon after 45 hours of gametime. what a great game, i enjoyed it a lot more than DQ1. it has been quite the experience to play this game after DQ builders 2 (my first DQ game).. now i'll move on onto DQ11 after doing some lategame stuff
>>547182807
i beat it on dracky because i didnt want to grind. and everyone seems to agree that you have to grind..
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I feel like I never really found the best way to use psyche up in dq8.
After a certain point bosses start removing buffs all the time so charging up just feels like a waste of turns.
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>>547157570
>Welcome to the Dragon Quest General! Everything related to the Dragon Quest series, and Blue Dragon series, is discussed here.
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Why can’t we get the trading cards here?
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>>547188838
I think the wafer cards would actually be popular here
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When I finally get through the postgame I'm gonna check how many monsters from later games were added to the trilogy (I think the only one in III was Garboyle, besides the bosses based on monsters from I and II). My impression was that most of the additions were from IV and VI, but I think only VIII and X didn't get anything.
I'm sure this has happened before, but the only example I can think of off the top of my head is Jailcats replacing baby Sabrecats in V DS. Did IV's postgame dungeon have some monsters from VII?
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>>547184224
DQ1 HD is not a grinding game.
DQ1 HD is a game where you find all of the shiny/secret spots and use that gear to beat whatever shows up. Or if all else fails you mash cop out.
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>>547183212
>I was winning the original 1 at level 18
1HD is a much larger, longer game, so there's a lot more time to level up and you WILL be pulping the Dragonlord at a much higher level than the original.
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>>547190546
I'm not quite done with the postgame yet, but I did a preliminary check:

IV:
>Fat Bat
>Elepus
>War-rus
>Woolungasaurus
>Grim Keeper
>Rhinothrope
>Flyguy

V:
>Hulagan
>Hypothermion

VI:
>Babygoyle
>Arrghgoyle (in DQ3)
>Gryphon
>Octavian Pirate
>Armoured Wartoise
>Dread Herring
>Cauldrone
>Overkilling Machine

VII:
>Half Hog
>Clawcerer
>Jawtoise (appears in IV remakes)
>Togre (appears in IV remakes)

VIII:
>Dancing Devil

IX:
>Teeny Sanguini (no battle sprite)
>Manguini

X:
>???

XI:
>Succubat
>Iron Maiden
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She's just so cute
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>>547198638
She wants you dead.
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>>547198679
She can dead me all night long
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>>547188606
BRAAAAAAAP
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>>547143804
>One Piece has the greatest artstyle ever created in the history of fiction
On opposite day
Literally the Concord of anime
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>>547199008
>one of the most successful series ever
>Concord
lol ok, buddy
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>>547199008
>Concord
Tumblr SJW approved dogshit
>One Piece
Based Coomchad approved kino
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Could a Dragon Quest collab have saved Concord?
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>>547198284
A lot of the enemy types from other games are unique bosses that only appear once.
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>>547188606
made for Shu
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>X
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My plan is to play through 1,2 and 3 hd remakes just till the end of the story. Then play through 7 on 3ds before going back to finish the post games. Am i retarded?
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>>547224462
Why, though?
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>>547225206
Cause I wanna play the 3ds version of 7 before the re-imagined one comes out. Do you think I should just play through the games in order? After 3 play 4?
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>>547225573
If you want to play 7 before the remake, then sure, do that and get it out of the way.
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>>547225734
Do you think playing through every game in order would be more satisfying though? I need genuine opinions I am a brainlet who has only played 3-hd, rocket slime and terrys wonderland. I just love the vibe of the series and want to see all of it.
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>>547088489
>>547090714
>>547157570
Blue dragon really was just more Toriyama memes slapped onto dragon quest with JoJo/Yugioh monster summoning.
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>>547225883
Not necessarily. 1-3 and 4-6 are the only one's I'd really suggest playing in order, unless playing newer game makes it harder for you to go back to play older ones.
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>>547226539
It's not about playing in order, its about series growth and progression. Would it be more interesting for me to see the series from start to finish, or is my original plan of 1,2,3 then 7 3ds just fine? I have major tism i gotta know
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>>547226639
1-3 then 7 is fine.
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>>547227312
Cool, i will do that then, my wife said she's gonna buy me the metal slime 2ds xl next week just for it so i'm pretty excited.
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>>547184224
ok I gotta ask, is DQ3 Remake good? I loved DQ2R because of the cousins interactions. but since you recruit random party members in III, there's not that much of a connection with them, is there?
yes, i played 1 and then 2. and i think im gonna play 11s now unless (you) /dqg/ tell me that DQ3 is worth it
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>>547235726
if you care that much about characters interacting with each other, like to the point it not being there completely puts you off a game, then yeah DQ3 and DQ9 are not for you. That's like the driest i can put it, if you're ok with anything else DQ usually does, like you just want more DQ to play, they're otherwise completely valid games
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Are the ds versions the best version of all three of the Zenith games?
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>>547236494
thanks, thats what i expected to hear. i'll start my DQXI playthrough and maybe play DQIII much later if i feel like i want more DQ.
and yes, i recently discovered the charm of these games, and i think a major part of it are the characters, their interactions and specially their dialogues (something I cant say about any other videogame ever). they are certainly special
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>>547236706
Pretty much. Just make sure you're playing a version of IV with the party chat patched back in.
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>>547237571
It's the only game I have a physical copy of lol... I'm so sad I missed Alena being a tomboy dweeb
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>>547236706
Debatable depending on each game
>4 is actually a port of the PS1 remake that was Japan-only, so there's a lot of overlap with DQ7 that carries over. Party Chat was removed in the US release, so you'll have to either patch it back in or play the mobile port if you want that.
>5 loses its distinct graphical aesthetic in favor of recycling from 4. The main addition is a third potential bride to marry, but it's otherwise not much different from its prior PS2 remake that was in full 3D (also Japan-only)
>6 is the most polarizing of the three, as the graphical homogenization between the DS games ends up making it look more generic and it removes being able to recruit monsters like in 5
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Is nu-II the best Twin Dragon Lash has been since PS2 VIII?
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>>547236706
6 is ruined by the remake
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>Reward for gathering all the memories is a Multiheal scroll for Matilda when she already knows Hustle Dance
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>>547202107
I know, I'm just trying to keep track of which monsters had sprite work done and what that might mean for future HD-2D games (III's new bosses besides the Arrghgoyle were all monsters from I&II, for example). I thought the number of monsters from IV and VI was suspicious, but it's interesting that V is underrepresented.
On one hand I'm already starting to get tired of the HD-2D style, but on the other hand the prospect of a huge library of compatible animated sprites that allow for more enemy variety and maybe even an expanded set of recruits in V is exciting.
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>>547239259
what's with them making remakes and ports and both adding and removing features? Why can't they just add shit without removing anything?
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>XII will be the last DQ by Hori
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>>547252926
It'll be the last DQ, period.
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>>547252926
No. He is going to live forever, and continue creating Dragon Quest until the heat death of the universe.
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The next Dragon Quest is going to be an action rpg like Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts or Tales of.
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>>547250101
Because aside from the big three, every remake is made by different people and they all think they know what's better for each DQ.
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>>547266634
And i wont buy it
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So what determines when Matilda stops using gadabout actions? Is it level, wisdom, or a point in the story? Are there different levels of it?
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>>547266634
Pretty sure that's what they said DQ11 was going to be and everybody in Japan screamed so angrily about it that they reverted back to the standard turn-based gameplay.
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>>547268595
That was DQ9.
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>actually found a use for Kerplunk Dance
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>>547266634
They tried to make 9 into a multiplayer action game and you can feel the remnants of that in the final game.
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>>547268661
It seems like they tried again in 11, given how it has that mode of being able to move characters around the battle screen as a remnant.
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Is there any reason not to give Critical Claim to Moonbrooke?
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the DQMonsters breeding is so complex than Pokemon, especially for those wanting Malroth in the party.
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>2 puff-puff scrolls
>Midenhall is one of only 2 characters who can learn it instead of the other girl
Umm...
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>>547273591
Her agility is shit you want a fast character with a meteorite bracer to nail metal slimes before they can run.
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>>547274701
The mighty male chest puff-puff has existed since DQ6.
>>547274874
I guess, but she has a billion MP and Midenhall and Cannock-chan have a decent crit rate by default. I don't suppose there's more than one scroll?
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>>547275025
There's 2 of them, one as a Xenlon wish and the other in the cave of confusion.
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>>547275025
>The mighty male chest puff-puff has existed since DQ6.
Actually since DQ3.
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>>547276245
As an in-battle ability that deals damage. Toughie-san is too gentle.
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>>547274701
Puff puff, and by extension power puff puff are insanely good on Midenhall. Great damage ratio for 0 MP cost.
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I'm so glad I broke my no mods on a first playthrough mod to install the Retro music mod for dq11. I made it like 25 hours in before I got tired of the same tracks and this mod makes the game so much better its unreal. I just wish the audio mixing and some tracks loops were better.
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>>547272192
If it was a remnant of anything it would be of DQ10, which had an ATB system where you moved around. Action was never in consideration for 11, especially since that game was basically a celebration of the series.
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>>547277068
you made the right call i can't imagine playing that long ass game again without using that music mod
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>>547088489
DQ Dairy Queen
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What's the best place to grind in the DQ2 post game? Going after liquid metals doesn't seem that great when every character needs 80,000 exp at level 50+.
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This whole part of the postgame with Dragonlord's great-grandson is extremely cool.
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>>547290098
Kinda wish they added the Metal King Slimes to help with the post-game grind. Metabbles just don't cut it when you're shooting for max levels.
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>>547290867
It would help if you could ditch a couple of characters like in DQ3 but short of getting them killed it doesn't seem like that's possible.
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Alright, took some time to get progress into DQ3 (up to getting the ship) and now I'm back to DQ2. Just got the Magic Key and now unsure whether to pursue Mariella or go for the Den of Thieves next. Everybody's at 32-33 and I'm set on Draconian.
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>>547266634
The whole point of FF is to try new things while the whole point of DQ is to be traditional, Squenix knows this
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>>547290626
Just noticed your title on each character changes from Scion of Erdrick to Hero after beating him.
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>>547290098
Deep into the Cave of Confusion, King Hydras give a gorillion EXP and double Cutting Edge wrecks them. Switch to Dracky Mode and you'll hit 80 in a couple hours. I didn't get the Metal Slime achievement until after beating Xenlon lol. Also, kill the golden clouds for seeds of magic to make Midenhall smart.
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Great localization.
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>>547122942
>Multiheal at priest level 6
Holy shit. Also from a different video
>Dracky/Dragon/Dracionion Quest + Customizable difficulty (exp rate, job point rate, damage, all that)
Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j61csNT5RHM
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Once again I’m inquiring about the mechanics of Cunnock’s thieving skill. Has anyone figured it out yet?
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>>547318910
Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.
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I think in the true ending of DQ2 Erdrick's mom is a spirit that's been unable to pass until either her son or one of his blood comes home. You see in the shrine of Rendarak a similar thing with the priest and nun there. They never mention anyone living in that house just that they're guarding it as a historical site for preservation.
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I know I'm gonna get burnt out if I got straight into playing another jrpg right after beating dq8 but I've really got the itch to play some dq3.
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kabump
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>>547318229
>Draconian enemies without dealing without them crippling your exp rates like the HD Remakes
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>>547318229
Remimagined has stronger vocations to make up for the inability to inherit skills.
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9 had so many strong vignettes... coming off 5, 7 and 11 has really made me appreciate the stories in 9 so much more. The Wight Knight, the puppet girl, the antisocial scientist and his bimbo wife, Erinn got me so invested in such a dweeby little dream!
Even weaker storylines like in Gleeba at least don't take up that much of your time and you can move on.
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>>547345379
>Brigadoom was the more stable nation
>Stornway's king makes a deal with Gittingham to fuck them over in exchange for his nation's safety
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>>547316632
that's just how british people talk

>>547315080
christ
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>>547352112
You should see how Nintendo Power interpreted Palom and Porom when they covered Final Fantasy IV (or II as the case was then).
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>>547353084
If you really want to see...
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>>547353860
ewwww
was their logic like, kids wouldn't be part of an rpg journey, so they must be little tweedle dee dwarf things
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>Killed Xenlon in 6 turns
God damn I think my record was 13 turns in DQ3, Midenhall is a beast.
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>>547357717
Does that guy still curbstomp a level 60 party on draconian, or is he better balanced in 2HD cause theres no class grinding?
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>>547358737
It's pretty rough but you can win. It took me so long at that level he didn't give me anything though.
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>>547358981
Ah, I probably will end up skipping the postgame for this one too then. I don't have it in me to do 10-20 hour grind sessions on liquid metals.
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>>547359612
That's not the whole post-game just a bonus thrown in, the meat of it is story related for the true ending.
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I broke down and switched to Dracky for the postgame grind. If I can flee from any encounter and am in absolutely no danger it just comes down to time
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>>547357717
Moonbrooke and Cannock F have even higher damage peaks.
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>>547360931
Cannock-chan I could see with Persecutter, but I'm not sure how Moonbrooke is dealing 5,000 damage per turn.
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>>547360931
I did over 8000 damage per turn with Midenhall I don't see how it can get much better.
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>>547361257
>>547361995
Moonbrooke has Wild Side + Clean Sweep and Cannock F has Helmet + Thunderlash or whatever its called but since their base strength/gear options for most of the game are worse, it ends up being easier to build around Midenhall.
That's what the dps/min turn autists say.
Cannock M should go spam dig in that one place until you get the early sword of ruin.
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>X
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>>547315080
>there are “people” in this general who honestly think Eliza lost to that
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>>547360647
>Oh man, Xenlon sure is easy with a couple more levels
>Forgot to turn off Dracky Quest
Aaaaahhhhhhh
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>>547374974
You now know what you must do. Honorable Kerplunk, for the greater good.
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Who is your favourite of the DQ4 sisters?
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>>547376685
yes
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100% achievements acquired in 1 & 2 remake finally now I just need to mop up the rest of the items and enemy types in DQ2 for true 100%.
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>>547371756
Plump nerds are better for bearing heroic heirs than scrawny elves
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Bit hard to say for certain, but I can't help but interpret this little bit of floor art in the back of Dirkandor as another suggestion that the kingdom is founded by Robbin' 'Ood's descendant, with the scene of the sketchy fellows leading into the kingly hall.
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>tell rubiss no
>text repeats till you say yes
its only cute when my wife does it you bitch
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>>547378336
imagine getting bred by robbin ood
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>>547345379
I only remember liking the doll one
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Care for a clearer look?
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>>547378336
All of his other descendants took up the mantle of the 'Ood and had the same voice, the King of Dirkandor acts more like some sort of Spartan obsessed with might.
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holy shit
can you get these in any monsters or treasure game?
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Grinding gold to revive Cannock because the river cave boss spams sizz and refuses to be fizzled~
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>>547381205
Get anti fire/magic gear instead of relying on ailments.
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>>547380889
They're available in the mobile versions of Monsters 1 and Monsters 2, and all versions of Monsters: The Dark Prince.
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>>547381612
Literally where? Its the first boss of the game.
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>>547381205
Fizzle worked for me in that fight maybe you just had bad luck.
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>>547379530
You didn't like the girl being forced to pray to the whale dad so he'd bring the village free food? The mayor tries to blackmail her into becoming his daughter?
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>DQ1 hero and Midenhall have pirate style swords on their sprites
>There's none that look like them as equipable weapons
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>>547385705
Its been two times now, so I'm gonna get Midenhall an extra level to hit 12 and maybe overpower them with tard strength, while also getting some backup insurance for Cannock's medical bills.
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Debora is actually much nicer than Maribel
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>>547386079
saw something similar in another rpg so not really
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>>547345379
I genuinely cant remember any story beats from 9 other than collecting fyggs and that one angel becoming the final boss.
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>>547379921
i wonder if there'll be artbook scans of high resolution art of this. is this on a wall or floortile?
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>>547390229
The floor. As seen in >>547378336.
I'd be interested in an artbook too. There's some really nice pieces scattered about. Who wouldn't want a high resolution picture of King Kandar sitting on a lion?
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>DQ8 final boss theme
>Dispelling the barrier changes it to the DQ3 final boss theme as usual
I get it, but that's lame
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>>547392976
Is there anything new in the world tour section before returning to Midenhall?
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>>547395538
Rubiss dialogue is different
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>The magic stopping fog also removes buffs on top of stopping magic.
No idea how I went through DQ III and I 2DHD without discovering this, but damn that's annoying.
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Is that Ramia's goddamn baby from DQ8
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>>547400978
All games take place in the same universe but not the same world
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>>547395538
Rubiss, Dragonlord's Great-Grandson, and the final tablet at the Faerie Palace updates.
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Was level 29-31 too high for Dora in Gray? I always heard she was a major difficulty spike on stronger monsters but she absolutely crumbled after a few oomphle boosted Multithrusts from Jade + Veronica Sap and a few Cutting Edges from the Hero.
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>>547407557
That's usually about the level I am at the end of act 1 so it's probably overleveled.
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>Try to all sorts of fancy shit
>Die
>Spam Cop Out like an idiot
>Win
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>>547407557
>29-31
You are incredibly overleveled. That's the level you finish Act 1 with on no exp from weaker monsters.
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Checked out some of the DQ7R previews.
>Shared item bag
>No indication you can turn off the map/treasure markers
>Volcano dungeon has signs pointing where to go

OWARI DA. At least there’s the other difficulty options. I don’t get people who are fans of JRPGs but don’t like dungeons/resource management/exploration.
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Why is the Blue Dragon anime so different from the game?
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>>547403687
I'm asking if the specific thing I saw was what it looked like.
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>>547407557
I don’t remember the level curve in DQXI so you might be over leveled. But also, she was harder in the original release (non-definitive edition, she would get 3 actions instead of 2).
Also you can’t discount that some people are just bad at RPGs.
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>>547410304
whine whine whine whine
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>>547409098
>>547410071
Well shit thats annoying I wasn't even going out of my way to grind, i can only guess this happened because I went out of my way to fully explore the sea and killed everything i came across sailing. Those 2 liquid metal slime kills in her dungeon probably didn't help either lmfao.
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>>547410304
They're gonna casualize anything that isn't an 8-bit remake
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>>547410539
Oh my god I'm not crazy, they DID nerf the bosses in XI S!
I knew there had to be some reason why I was breezing through Stronger Monsters in S despite running the same builds and strats and having a way rougher time with it in the original, often turning to grind, grind, and grind some more for most bosses.
I don't remember what level I got to for Dora, but I know I finished act 2 at like 65 in the original.
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>>547411892
You unironically have LESS copies of items now since its a shared bag instead of unique inventories plus the storage.
Also, if you're the type of person who just bought a billion healing items and stored them in the bag, health tension for exploration was never really an issue in a lot of the modern games, because you'd just use the herbs to top off after any moderately challenging random encounter.
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>>547411671
Are you playing with No Easy EXP alongside Super Strong Monsters? I know a lot of people shrug off the option because they think it will make the game a chore, but I always thought it was really nice having a level cap for every section of the game to strategize around.
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>>547412573
I never end up using items they just pile up in the inventory the whole game, there's spells that do everything items do.
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>>547412809
No I ended up deciding against using it because I thought it would make grinding in the late game more annoying than its worth but at this point I might download a cheat engine table so I can enable it for at least the rest of my playthrough so I don't accidentally end up trivializing more bosses.
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Is Blue Dragon worth getting into? I just looked into it because of this general on a whim and I saw there was a manga drawn by the death note guy. What the fuck even is this?
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>>547413580
Blue Dragon was made by the creator of Final Fantasy Hironobu Sakaguchi, the characters were designed by Akira Toriyama and the music was done Nobuo Uematsu.
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>>547413580
>What the fuck even is this?
Xbox's desperate attempt to get the Japanese to buy their console. No it did not work.
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>>547415035
Thanks wikipedia-kun. >_>
>>547415050
Is it at least a fun time? My only gripe is Toriyama designs didn't translate well to this game. Kluke is cute AF though.
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>>547415204
>Is it at least a fun time?
I got no clue, I never had a 360. I think the most experience I had with Blue Dragon was seeing a single episode of the anime on tv once.
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I think it's funny that 1HD placed it's Mini Medal drop-off location in roughly the same area that Dragon Quest + did. + just put it a little to the south on an island.
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https://youtu.be/IF2afUGixnw?si=v6ITM0RTiXxemGfj
>Wild Side + Divide
Huh
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>>547415204
>Is it at least a fun time?
Not really. I played through it twice as a kid and the only things I remember about it are the poop snakes and the atrocious boss music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWtpAzbEnc8&list=RDWWtpAzbEnc8&start_radio=1
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>>547412809
Last time I did an XI run I had both of those turned on, and I think I was even higher then 31 at Dora.
But it's because I managed to kill like, 3-4 Liquid Metal Slimes on the path to her.
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Does DQ1HD on Draconian ever evolve beyond spamming Cop Out like a retard because trying to do anything else will get you killed?
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>>547421476
Yeah. You could try getting better equipment. I've done several fights now where the internet as a whole says spamming cop out is the only way to win. It isn't. It in fact gets me killed more often than not.
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>>547416449
It's wierd that nothing remains of the mini medal castle in DQ2 it's like the guy folded it up and moved to that island.
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>>547421815
>get better gear
Cop Out is still going to be one of the best actions you have in most battles because its the most effective in terms of action economy.
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>>547421815
>it gets me killed more than not
Selection bias. Cop Out is mathematically more likely to succeed than fail.
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>>547422503
With nearly every other DQ1 location brought back I wish the medal castle was there as a dungeon or something, with a medal-collecting monster like the platypunk from Heroes 2 as an optional boss you could fight for like 5 medals. It's funny that the DQ3 medal guy gets referenced in the epilogue but the one from DQ1 is just gone.
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>>547423035
I think the maharaja is his descendant he just changed his title cause he thought it sounded cooler.
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>>547423250
I reworded that sentence on the fly and botched it, I just meant the castle.
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>>547422658
>>547422794
Whatever. I can only speak for my own experience with the game, and Cop Out spam has been the pits. The only battle in which I extensively used it successfully was the Knight Aberrant. Other things have paid out more for me in every other fight. Dodgy Dance, Rousing Ring, fire/ice resist gear, etc. Cop Out has never been the answer.
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>>547423961
>dodgy dance
Unreliable as fuck
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>>547424047
Selection bias. It's saved my ass more times than I can count.
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>>547424098
I'm not saying Cop Out itself is useless, I use it plenty often. I just haven't had the strategy of using nothing but Cop Out doesn't work for me, so I don't think much of it.
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>>547425160
Reformatted my sentence and forgot to delete doesn't. Curse thee minor grammar mistake.
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>use dodgy dance
Enemy hits all the time
>use faerie foil
Enemy starts critting
>boss almost dead
Time to scam the player with ailments
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>>547426273
Just like in real gambling, the house always wins.
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The horse always wins...
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>>547380889
Yes.
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>Somehow, Hargon became even more friendless
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>>547410304
DQ fucks up the lovely resource management aspect anyways in any game that gives you a Sage's Stone. it's generally so good up until then, and that's when you know it's time to wrap the game up
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The absolute minimum requirement for resource management to mean anything in DQ is Zoom not working in dungeons and Evac having an MP cost. If spending or losing every single MP doesn't require you to at least uncork a magic water to get back to town, there's no management going on.
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holy shit dual wielding Falcon Swords on Erik is fun as fuck
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>party talk returns in 7make
>party doesn’t talk at all during cutscenes
Bummer. Did they talk during at all in the PS1 version?
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>>547411082
I mean yes a little bit. I like DQ7 a lot and will probably like this version. I just wish it was a bit more to my taste.
>>547440208
I saw one of the people who got to preview the game mention that as well. I think they might not have been remembering the game that well. In a lot of scenarios your characters are fairly quiet during cutscenes. But if you check party chat they have something to say. Like if a scene is NPC A talking to NPC B, and then NPC B goes into another room and you are expected to talk to B to continue the scene, your party will have something unique to say after their initial conversation, and after you talk to NPC B to progress. They will even say something unique if you optionally talk to NPC A before progressing the scene by talking to B.
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>>547436134
The Dragon Queen never gave a fuck about him lmao
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I've gained a whole new respect for cop out from the remake.
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>>547410304
>Volcano dungeon has signs pointing where to go
this is a good thing, i need to know where to go so that i don't go there accidentally when i just want to explore without progressing. Especially when the place becomes unaccessible later
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>>547415204
it is, but it's pretty clunky to play. If you want a direct comparison, it's pretty much exactly metaphor refantazio but made 20 years earlier. And on the subject of "casualizing" anons were talking about, this game has items you can find in the field but are absolutely not marked, you'll just have to press A to literally everything like walls or idk to find them
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How doable is beating the postgame dq8 boss at lvl 45?
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>>547424047
Dodgy Dance is what makes Cop Out reliable in the first place.
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>>547426273
>use faerie foil
>Enemy starts critting
Faerie foil just saved you then since its the only thing in the game to reduce crit damage.
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>>547456316
Its the other way around.
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>>547456876
Its really not.
Cop Out on it's own is a risk every time. Dodgy Dance on it's own is only a risk on the turn you use it, then its potential lifesaver for the next 3-4 turns after while you get to do other things.
Cop Out needs Dodgy Dance to bail it out if it doesn't trigger. Dodgy Dance does not need Cop Out to be useful.
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>>547457173
Faerie Foil can do the exact same role as Dodgy Dance in that instance of "what if Cop Out fails". Its also more useful than DD in this instance as a fail safe for stray crits that you fail to palm off.
Cop Out's success rate is also higher than 50% which is why its so overpowered in the first place.
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>>547458447
Faerie Foil can't fulfill the same role, because any damage still hurts a lot. It should be used with Dodgy Dance to cushion you in case you get hit, especially if a crit one shots you, but of the three it is your worst option.
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Dodgy Dance is useful in every boss fight but Cop Out is more of a case by case basis with it being particularly useful against Knight Aberrant.
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>>547459284
Basically, Cop Out works best when the enemy is alone, semi-predictable, and almost always using only physical attacks.
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>>547413580
Blue Dragon is kind of an oddity. It's somewhere between Dragon Ball, Dragon Quest, and JoJo/yugioh with all the shadow monster summoning. Because it was 100 episodes, they had Toriyama contribute tons of designs. Almost every significant dragon ball character archetype is in there in some form or another as well as a lot of dragon quest's. And because it was written mostly by anime writers with free reign, there's a lot more focus and development of the entire cast compared to something like dragon ball. Don't know if it was really popular at all as people really didn't want anything but dragon ball out of Toriyama.
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>>547458951
>every attack hurts a lot
Stop using gear with piss poor defense values.
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>>547459406
The bosses in DQ1HD are heavily scripted and/or can be neutered with element resist gear.
All fire resist gear + cop out makes the dragon very easy once you learn his script.
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>>547460112
You've got characters that are like trunks, chi chi, mai, and bulma as mains in it. So is interesting to see a team battle show that treats them all as significant.
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>>547461084
>>547460112
who does kluke end up with? why does the anime exclusive twintails girl get more love from fans. wtf
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>>547460842
Erdrick's armor and the rest of the endgame equipment feel like they're made out of paper on draconian.
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>>547460112
it's too bad microsoft would rather sit on it instead of doing something with it, all blue dragon needs is to be out on modern consoles and pc

>>547461707
>why does the anime exclusive twintails girl get more love from fans. wtf
two big reasons
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>>547461828
kluke is cuter
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>>547461707
in the game shu and kluke are a thing. in the anime shu and bouquet are ultimately the pairing and it's a significant part of the plot getting there. kluke ends up with an anime original character named andropov.
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>>547462965
Jirobros....
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>>547461828
Blue dragon didn't get the sales to justify having more than a few games and mistwalker moved on as a studio. It likes rare not ever going back to its old games.
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>>547462413
Bouquet was the fan service character with invisiblility magic
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I honestly didn’t like Blue Dragon when I played it back in the day and thought the art style was very odd. The noses always looked so off to me, i also hated those db manga rereleases cover arts from the same time.
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>>547412356
I think Slayer was nerfed too but don’t recall if any others were.
>>547438215
>>547412573
I certainly hope it’s balanced well in the new game, but I always liked the element of deciding who would hold what item and if anyone needed to carry extra equipment into battle with them. I like it in SaGa too.
>>547438623
This annoys me too. No point in even having Evac in the game anymore.
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>>547392976
The exact same thing happens in Treasures[/spoiler
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>>547469735
At least in DQ2, it makes thematic sense. That one is just pointless fanservice.
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Non-zero chance she'll be roped into the Dragonlord family tree
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>>547474636
Her and also all the Dragovians from DQ8 will get retconned into the Dragon Queen's extended family tree.
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>>547474636
Imaginary dragon girlfriends owe me sex.
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>Gawain/Cookie/Macaron/Pudding
Why isn't Midenhall also named after food?
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>>547479189
He's named after the delicious Gwaelin
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>Don't have Insulatle for the dragon zombies
Welp, time to fish with Coagulants.
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Just did my first tombola, I think I made out pretty good.
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Why hasn't blue dragon had a remake?
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>>547487543
Microsoft have more important things to do, like finding new and innovative ways to ruin Halo
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kek this game is amazing
just a few minutes ago i shed a tear and now im laughing at this would probably cried harder if they gave that fisherman a proper voice, and not a monotone one
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playing DQ 11 for the first time, im in tinkatown or tinkertown? I don't remember. are these quest worth doing? I kinda don't like that combat in 2D, I don't know what's happening even.
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Here's what I want to know: What's the other world that Rubiss was hanging out in?
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>>547493158
They're mostly there for fan service, but there's also some good shit to be gained from some of them.
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>>547493158
There are some decent rewards and cute cameos if you're familiar with other games in the series, but most of it doesn't unlock until the postgame anyway. I could never get used to 2D mode in XI purely because of the weird battle speed issues.
>>547493196
Since she's in VI it could've been there, unless she just meant her stargate hyperbolic time chamber.
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>>547493531
Could've just been the upper world. Might be why there was apparently no conflict up there since Baramos bit it.
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>>547493158
I hate the 2d mode honestly and my favorite dq is 3 snes
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Why doesn’t Rubiss just kill the evil she knows is coming before it’s stronger than her? Is she stupid?
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>>547494080
Because if she miscalculates and dies, the whole world dies with her, plus it's simply not sporting to nuke evil before it has the chance to act.
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>>547494380
Why would the villains ever have the capability to kill god?
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I just beat Spiketail, how much more of DQ1 do I have left? Really want to move onto 2.
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>>547495028
Rubiss isn't necessarily a god, despite being worshipped as one by humans. She's a powerful being, but the more mystical races only refer to her as a spirit.
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>>547495210
Two more major story beats before the big man himself
td; just finished that second major beat and have been feeling the same since spiketail. I'm having fun tho.
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>>547493158
I did a couple but stopped cause they kept sending me on overworld quests or quests into other tablets. Some of the throwbacks are cute but you're fine ignoring them until postgame
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>>547487543
i mean it depends on mistwalker rather than microsoft, but i don't think they have the funding to make it even if it they wanted to.
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>>547499212
>i mean it depends on mistwalker rather than microsoft
microsoft owns the ip though, mistwalker was just the dev. If microsoft really wanted it they could give it to literally anyone, especially if it's "just" about a remake. For example, exactly like demon's souls remake was done by another company and not from software, cause sony owns that ip
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Is Meena or Tornico the worst DQ4 character? What party do you use once everyone unlocks?
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>>547504223
My usual lategame party is 1. Hero, 2. Alena or Ragnar (or Psaro for the postgame), 3. Kiryl, and 4. Maya for regular battles or Meena for bosses. Meena's main draw is having Insulatle, and a backup Fullheal user is still nice to have.
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somebody help? i dont know what to do in DQXI next
the mermaid queen says to go to the girl academy. i got there, but theres no hint on what to do or nothing, what do i do here?
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>>547501971
i assumed mistwalker owned it since it got a bunch of DS sequels. But yeah i looked it up and it's listed in their weird microsoft trademarks PDF file.
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>>547506138
microsoft was actually never shy of putting shit on nintendo handheld systems, after they acquired rare they still had them put a banjo kazooie game on gba, and one of their x360 launch titles got a DS version (viva pinata)
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>>547506963
kinda sad that microsoft does own it tho because it truly is dead forever then.
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>>547504223
I used Solo, Alena, Kiryl, and Maya.
I like Meena as a character more than Maya, but Kiryl already had the priest role fulfilled in my party. Character wise I'd say Borya is the worst.
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>>547507598
given the state of mistwalker it unironically has a slightly better chance with microsoft
they just have to realize it's yet another thing they could port on every system
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>>547493158
oh also im playing with draconian quest (stronger monsters) and now im getting filtered (im helping faris now), should I turn it off? Im dying a lot now even with best gear crafted.
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>>547507626
Crack being resisted by 80% of enemies is an eternal truth of the series, so he's just an Oomph dispenser. Maybe he'll get Crag or Zam or Donk or something in the inevitable remake.
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>>547507716
i do think it would be cool if they revived the IP and hired Toyotaro to make art for it. But at this point if MS makes a new RPG its more likely for it to be a E33 rip off than a classic JRPG.
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>>547509917
>Toyotaro
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>>547510072
i said it would be cool not good !
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>>547509917
>>547510471
i'd rather the guy who made the toriyama-esque art for the hd2d games, don't remember his name but i like his stuff i've seen a lot
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>>547505634
The area called the Eerie Eyrie nearby has an orb.
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>>547512713
thanks. weird how the game is too "handholdy" but now its a little bit more open
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>>547510715
isn't it the same person who did the live alive and octopath art? Naoki Ikushima. I like his stuff, i also like the artist for the new dai's adventure manga.
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>>547514916
no that's the guy retards thought they were using to somehow "memoryhole" Toriyama, the guy i meant is fenyo_n
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>>547515452
Goat shit
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>Sword/Boomerang
>Erdrick Shield
>Erdrick Helm/Mad Hat/Phantom Mask
>Erdrick Armor/evasion up armor/Glombo
>resistance accessory
>instant death immunity accessory
>mp restoratives
>oomph powder
done
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>>547392223
There's also a mural on the floor when you step into the throne room that has a vague image of Erdrick/DQ3 Hero fighting Robbin'.
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>>547529015
It's seen better days. There are two more
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>>547529514
starring Mage-chan and Merchant-chan!
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Why are randoms more difficult than the actual bosses?
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>>547529954
More hits per turn
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>>547529718
CANON CUTIE
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>>547515452
The cover art has traditionally been in Toriyama style too aside from the old Dragon Warrior western covers.
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Need help in DQ3 HD2D.
Just got to Alltress(?) Abbey so I'm ready for a job change.
I changed my Thief (L20) to a Monster Wrangler because I was annoyed with monsters having to escape when I get near them.
I have words of wisdom so I plan to change my Mage (L21) to Sage.
The one that I don't know who to change jobs for is my Priest.
Can someone suggest me what's a good job for it to change into?
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>>547533605
Wrangler so you can eventually change back to priest and double act heals. Or Monk for the speed benefits since you already have a Wrangler.
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>>547534785
Monk? You mean martial artist? What level should I change my priest?

I don't want double classes in a team. What should the personalities be actually?
Right now my Monster Wrangler is at Vamp via a ring. Dunno if that's good I just put it in because of the def. My Mage is on Genius. Priest is egg-head I think?
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>>547535207
Yeah MA. Personalities don’t really matter in the grand scheme of things you can beat the game solo.
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The more I dwell on 2make’s true ending the more emotional I become.
Pretty sure I’m gonna bawl like a baby on my next playthrough.
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>>547536065
It's tragic that Erdrick's mom died alone waiting for him to come home all those years especially when Ramia had the power to bring him back. I'm pretty sure she's just a ghost in DQ2
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>>547536707
Ramia may not have had that power just yet.
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>肥えてる。とにかく肥えてる。その肥満ぶりは尻が椅子からはみ出すほど。本作には登場しないが【クイーンスライム】のような容貌である。
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Grand Milf Pang
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>>547529718
Makes sense, Merchant-chan is mandatory in order to progress the main story in DQ3 for the Merchantburg Orb.
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>>547479189
WTF would you even name him? Baklava? Caramel? Custard? Danish? Gelato? Pancake? Snickerdoodle? Waffle? Yogurt?
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>>547551508
Custard seems to be the only plausible dessert name among those a person would be given.
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I'm not homophobic but Act 2 Sylvando and his band of faggots holy fuck man
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>>547555357
Are you not entertained?
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>>547555357
>he didn't rike it
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I always struggle to stay motivated to keep playing when I get to the post game.
I enjoy the extra challenge but idk, I kind of lose interest once the main plot is concluded.
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>>547565441
me too, i just don't like the games that much to go like "now metagame the fun out of it to get this reward", especially when the reward is something i would've rather had at the start of the game and not at the very end (ie recoloring the hero's hair, what the hell am i supposed to do with it now that i did everything in the game already?)
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>>547565565
The one thing that does make me more willing to do postgame stuff for dq is there isn't THAT much grinding required to do it (in the ones I've played at least).
A lot of other jrpgs expect you to be 99 with everything min maxed to beat postgame stuff.
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>>547555357
Those boys were straight not five minutes ago and Sylvando buckbroke all of them....
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>>547551508
>>547551945
Caramel because you can use that in all of the other foods.
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>>547566846
XI has the hardest post-game superboss even at level 99 with the best equipment you get one-shot by it.
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>>547578094
XI has easier forms of cheese. I'd say IX is the one with rubbish designed superbosses but they're hidden in random dungeons. VII's are bullshit and VIII 3ds has shit ones too.
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Am I underlevelled going into the Dragonlord's Castle at 33 on Draconian?
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>>547578094
Skill issue.
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>>547586847
You probably won't beat him at that level, but the castle is also the best place to grind, so just go for it
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>>547565441
I never play the post game of dragon quests.
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>>547536707
In my mind, Midenhall gives her a hug and she finally moves on. This is the true purpose of DQII's events.
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>>547586847
I got slaughtered constantly by random encounters in there until like level 45.
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Im in Gondolia now and I wonder if I should turn off stronger monsters? I've made two saves and without it im just cheesing thru, bosses are too easy now. IDK what to do ;_;
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Do you think Nera would love (you) as a wife? I want to imagine married to her and having kids and being happy together but I can't help feeling like she's way out of my league... Would she be interested in talking to me about rpg's and visual novels and get as excited as I do when we get a new anime girl for the mantlepiece? She wouldn't resent me right...? For being underwhelming and boring? I'd love her so much man... I'd be the most devoted husband possible and would love our children like they were my own but I have no excitement or ambition for her to look at me like a cool guy. I want Nera to be proud of having me as a husband but I'm too pathetic for her to love...
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You should've married the gamer neet bride if you were worried about that.
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>>547606893
I feel like you owe me money for making me read this.
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>Dragon Quest XII's new battle system is playable and "will definitely be interesting," says creator Yuji Horii

what did they do?
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>>547600008
Genuinely, XI's two difficulties are too easy and too hard. Pick your poison.
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>>547610382
Could be something like modern Persona maybe with buttons mapped to each action instead of a square menu.
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Malroth can run out of magic right?
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>>547614175
He mostly uses melee attacks
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>>547614175
He only uses Fullheal once.
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>>547591641
>>547596175
Anon here, I beat the game at 37. Duplic Hat + magic cheeses most of the randoms and Dragonlord is free if max out fire resistance since he's scripted.
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>>547616585
And you can kill him before he uses it if you can hit hard and fast enough to take him from half-HP to dead all at once.
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>Game makes a big deal over you getting the Erdrick gear
>Only the shield and armor get any real use since the helmet is worse than the duplic hat in most encounters and the sword shows up so late that it does nothing
Hopefully 2 fixes this
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>>547589132
you know, whatever happened to that whale post XI? Cease to exist? Reincarnated into Ramia?
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>>547621091
I still have no idea why they didn't just use Ramia in XI.
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kino or souless slop?
never played 7 so I'll get it I think!
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>>547616259
>>547616585
Not what i asked
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>>547608246
I dated the gamer neet... I've been hung up on her for well over a decade. She was a self proclaimed lesbian and wasn't happy to settle for someone who loved her and tolerated her narcissistic side. I actually met her again last year, she's single and miserable and same as always but she never wanted to follow up.
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>>547621091
Trying to fully connect 11 to the Erdrick trilogy is a mess. I'm going with how the 11 stinger ultimately reveals it: all a fairy-tale that Mum was reading before waking her little Erdrick-to-be up.
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>>547621342
The whale has to get all armored to breach the final boss area
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>>547623860
It feels about the same as VI does as a prequel to IV, just so far in the past that it barely matters.
Speaking of, I noticed only at the ass end of DQ2 that the Dragon Queen's attendants wear white and purple, same as the Arborians. I wonder if that was intentional.
>>547624151
You could put armor on Ramia.
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>>547625391
>It feels about the same as VI does as a prequel to IV, just so far in the past that it barely matters.
It's not like 6 to 4 and 5 where there's still some visible ties to future events here and there, most notably when you reach Cloudsgate Citadel before it becomes Zenithia (i.e. you meet the mom of 4's Hero who's planning to sneak down to the surface and find love). 11 feels like somebody in 3's world used their world and lore as a narrative basis, threw in a lot of imaginary elements, and wove an inspiring tale of heroism out of it.

>I wonder if that was intentional.
Intentional reference, as with a lot of the 11-to-3 ties.
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>>547621941
The art style is kino, but that's about all I can say for it.
It won't be soulless slop, but its definitely going to be a far cry from the original since some islands are removed and there's no casinos.
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>>547621941
>>547626183
>making assumptions about a game's quality before it comes out
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>>547626306
Its going to be worse than the original, that's just a plain fact. I'll still buy it, and when I finish 2HD I'll be back to my replay of DW7, so I'm likely going to be playing both DW7 and DQ7R at the same time.
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>>547626528
your opinion will never be fact.
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>>547627181
A remake that removes things from the original can never be better than the original.
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The interface looks like shit, that's a fact. We'll see about the rest.
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>>547627745
That's your opinion. It is simply too early to make any outright conclusions.
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>>547628229
Its a fact, for all remakes.
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>>547628747
It is your opinion. Now are we going to continue this song and dance, or are you going to agree to disagree?
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>>547627745
To me, it depends on whether they replace what's been taken away with something of equal or greater value. So far, I have seen nothing in this new DQ7 to justify the removals.
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>>547629215
Its a fact, slop eater.
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>>547629861
It's simply too early to make any assertions about the quality of DQ7R as an overall game because we don't know anything beyond whatever curated content that SE has released.
If a wait and see approach is too much for you then too bad.
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>>547606893
Get help
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>>547631065
I haven't said its bad though, I have just stated the FACT that it will not surpass the original.
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>>547631539
Who said anything about you calling it "bad"? I'm just telling you to stop parading your opinion around as fact.
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I have been fighting Malroth for 4 hours
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why don’t the cpu party members ever block to regen mp in 2hd?
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>>547631898
Clearly that's what got you so uppity in the first place. The quality of it as an overall game does not matter, its not surpassing the original, its has already failed critical aspects to do so, there's nothing too early about it.
>I'm just telling you to stop parading your opinion around as fact.
Rich coming from the guy who is forcing his own opinion onto others in the first place. Figures a mindless remake defender loves to huff his own farts but will criticize others for it.
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>>547633004
>remake defender
You are a retard if that's what you got from the exchange.
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>>547635661
Cope, you got called out. Next time think twice before you start pissing and moaning about what others think.
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No remake can surpass the original. None. Even the best can at most be a sidegrade. That is not necessarily a bad thing.
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>>547636062
You were so adamant about stating a "fact" but now its about what others "think"?
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>>547633004
Its fucking hilarious how booty bothered you got over being told "just wait for the game to come out before making a judgement".
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Whatever its actual quality is, 95% of people saying the remake is better than the original (and probably 50+% of people saying it's worse) will not have played the original.
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>>547637723
Most of the comparisons are going to be between 3DS and Reimagined since that's what most of the fanbase played prior thanks to 3DS generally being the one that was shilled.
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>>547636914
I was stating its a fact. You're the one shoving your opinion down other's throats and and trying to make a big deal out of it. Here's another fact; you're a hypocrite.
>>547637173
Rich coming from you when you're so assblasted over such harmless posts that you had to shit up the general.

A game that is actually too early to judge would be 12 because we literally have nothing on it, we have plenty on 7R, it could be a fucking 10/10, its still not going to be as much of a 10 as the original. Get over yourself and fuck off to /v/ if you want to shit up threads so badly.
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7r will be dogshit just like og 7
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>>547639306
True. At the end of the day, a polished turd is still a turd.
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>>547626135
>11 feels like somebody in 3's world used their world and lore as a narrative basis, threw in a lot of imaginary elements, and wove an inspiring tale of heroism out of it.
The sword of light/kings existed before Erdrick though and Zoma spent years of his time breaking it in half so obviously there had to be a hero before Erdrick that used the sword to end the darkness.
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dq3 hd or snes?
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>>547641817
hd
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>>547641817
2D-HD, easily. The new bosses and Ortega cutscenes are cool, and Draconian difficulty is a welcome addition. Repurposing the GBC postgame content without the stupid monster medal grind is also amazing. Just turn off all the objective marker shit, if you want to play it like the older versions and do things in your own order.
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>>547641817
I honestly recommend both. The HD remake has some good additions but also drags things out a lot.
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>>547639683
Going by the memories of DQ2, nobody ever came to save Alefgard before Erdrick I arrived, so the sword went unused, stolen, and broken.
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I love how Gwaelin takes every opportunity to flaunt her boyfriend.
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I thought that Cannock was supposed to be jobber?
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>>547639683
Malwrath implies that the children of light have been foiling his plans far longer than DQ3 and he kind of talks like Calasmos.
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That fact/opinion argument is retarded. Are all fans of DQ7 like this?
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>>547647927
Meant to quote >>547643820
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But the chest is empty.
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>>547649910
Chest empty
Head empty
Tummy full
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>>547648041
He's a multiversal entity. As far as the DQ3 world knows, the story of Calasmos fighting the Luminary is just a fairy tale, but somewhere in the strange and mixed-up DQ multiverse, it happened and his evil will continues to seek revenge. Of course, there's going to be more children of light thwarting him at every turn. And not just them, but also Ramia/Empyrea who is also shown to have multiversal influence.
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>Level 8 on Abra Cadabra on Draconian
Fizzle works on Cadabra but Midenhall doesn't have enough DPS even with Muster Strength + Flying Knee to overpower them.
Don't tell me that I'll actually have to grind.
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>>547650709
You get a free healing tile in the cave. Better get started.
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>>547647526
It’s erotic
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>>547651059
Either I grind or take the lame way out and change the difficulty down huh. What an auspicious start.
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>>547651340
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The great Kirk Buzzer sure built that thief's key to last it's the same one through the entire trilogy while the magic key goes through 3 copies.
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Imagine how many owner's puff-puffs were given out over 15 generations of Patties
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Kabumple!
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I've been looking at the dq3 party creation for like an hour. I'm indecisive af when it comes to these kind of class systems.
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>>547639306
No one likes a pessimistic Pete. Strive to be an optimistic Oscar instead.
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>>547663414
Thief, Monster Wrangler, Mage
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>>547663414
What this anon said >>547664249
said but also change your thief into a sage once you get snoop and your mage into a warrior once you get oomph
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>>547664249
>>547664459
Won't not having a priest be a huge pain?
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>>547664873
Nope, monster wrangler gets a low hp heal all that does good enough early game plus the hero can use healing magic and your thief is fast so using items on them is a great idea too. Plus a Sage is a combination of Mage and Priest so around level 20-25ish you'll have a super fast versatile caster that learns nearly every spell in game if you change your thief into one using an item you find close to the place that unlocks class changing.
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>>547664873
Wranglers have soothing song it's like a weaker multiheal for the early part of the game.
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>>547663414
Gadabout (female), Gadabout (female), Gadabout (female)
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Thoughts on merchants in dq3?
They seem like a fun gimmick but how are they any good?
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Damn dq3 hd looks so good.
I'm haven't been a huge fan of other hd 2d games I've played but it looks awesome here.
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Thief > Sage was really good in SNES/GBC but in the remake, I'd recommend turning him/her into a Merchant or Warrior instead. Thieves eventually learn Persecutter and since that's your main physical beat stick in that squad, you want to double down on that.
If you really want a Sage, either make your Mage into one after learning Kacrack or just save the words of Wisdom entirely because Mage (Kaboom) > Priest (Kazing) or vice versa is equally effective and levels faster.
>>547671236
The three relevant endgame vocations assuming you learn every relevant skill are Thief/Merchant/Sage with Mage as an honorable fourth if your primary caster does not have Persecutter.
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play DQX
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>>547687712
it's too annoying to set up. no thanks
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>>547687712
what the other anon said, plus i'd also have to set up a vpn for it cause they don't want yuros to play the game
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>>547663414
Right now, I'm trying for a "canon party" run of F Warrior, F Priest, and M Mage, at least until Zoma is defeated.
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Am building PC and it looks like I'll need to buy a GPU that will last like 2 years because of high prices soon, but the only new game I will want to play is Dragon Quest 12
What GPU do you think it'll need?

I was gonna get a gtx 1080 but I guess that might not cut it. Seems like it was more than enough for XI though.
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>>547697352
high prices are already a thing and have been for years, the only advice is to find one or a bunch of specific parts you're interested in and hope you'll find them when they're at a proper price. I got an amd rx6700xt in february of 2024 for around 350 bucks, and the same place i got it from now has it for 750+
also of course, make sure to always buy them new, you never know if a used one has been used to mine shitcoins and it can barely boot up now
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I just got to Arboria in act 2. I was not expecting THAT to happen at all, surprisingly hurt quite a bit.
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>DQ 4,5,6 remakes in 2026
okay but no once cares about 4 and 6 so they should make DQ V Reimagined 3D.
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>>547700550
>they should make DQ V Reimagined 3D.
That was already for PS2. All the DS added was Debora.
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>>547700550
really ugly boxarts...
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>>547700550
V needs the remake, maybe this time they can make it good.
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>>547701137
>Dreading the idea of Dr. Agon's VA actually sounding like Ned Flanders in addition to being written like him
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Some of the stuff in II HD makes me honestly wonder if they'd do VI first.
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>>547703269
I still feel like they're going to stick with redoing DQ4 first and go in numerical order if they give Zenithia the HD upgrade.
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>>547700742
well the DS version also has the best looking sprites. for monsters, at least
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>>547700550
remakes of these will put an end to purple slime debate
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Been a while since I played DQ3 I don't remember the ship being so fast, DQ2 didn't get that upgrade.
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>>547712662
DQ2 at least made it way easier to disembark. For some reason in 3 HD it's really finicky.
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>>547701409
Which regional British accent would be the most appropriate for a Ned Flanders-like character though?
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Bazinga.
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HELP! i really wanted to play a good JRPG. The ones which i really loved were dragon quest 11, tales of arise and chrono trigger. Tried playing final fantasy 7 (remake) and dragon quest 3 HD but the game sucked. Any tips on an actually good game?
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>>547719210
>dragon quest 3 HD but the game sucked
There's no fixing your shit taste.
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>>547703494
>>547703494
I thought that XII might have a similar relationship to 4-6 that XI had to I-III but since now it's going to be a 40th anniversary game and will be the last DQ all three founders had input on it will definitely have be full of 1-3 fan service again. Though to be fair XI had fan service for the whole series.
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>>547724472
I really hope it's just a standalone game like 7, 8 (mostly) and 9 were when they came out. Between 11 and Builders and Heroes and DQM and 1-3 HD I've had enough self-referential DQ for a lifetime.
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A question regarding the big reveal of DQ2's finale: is Malwrath voiced by the same voice actors (Japanese and English) as Calasmos in 11? Their names aren't in the credits and I'm unsure if that was an intentional omission to avoid spoiling or if Malwrath just has new VAs period.
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>>547188606
I will now watch your anime.
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>>547724472
11 already shilled the shit out of 3. Please be unique or shill some other game.
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>>547719210
what do you like about jrpgs? dragon quest viii is awesome and so are the original ffvi and vii
dragon quest 2 hd remake is pretty cool too
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>>547724925
>>547726001
Sorry we need 40-60 year old salary men to weep and post photos of the title screen on SNS with the caption "Nostalgic feeling". Please understand.
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I still don't really understand how there's 2 worlds on top of each other with both of them getting sunlight.
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Shitbora flopped so hard it's honestly kind of hilarious
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>>547729802
Black magic.
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>>547726001
DQXII is gonna tease DQIII-2.
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Caradoc is fucking useless. He refuses to land Fizzle.
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>>547743179
On normal it worked almost every time for me
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>>547743179
This is the prettiest game in the series.
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Does anyone remember when Square's embargo ends over 2's second set of credits? Just curious
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>>547743179
I think status ailments don’t affect bosses on draconian. At least they never landed for me.
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>>547753528
*effect
Stupid auto-correct
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>>547754051
Auto-correct had that one right
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>>547753528
They work, but like in DQ3, their effectiveness is reduced. At least it seems that way for me.
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>>547754534
Boo! Down with grammarians. Besides, English isn’t a dead language, meaning its rules are always in flux, so it’s impossible for me to be wrong.
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>>547756759
Whatever you say, Maribel.
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>>547756049
And this is why the Morph spell wasn't inherited by any of the Scions.
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>>547756049
Cute Cannock!
Though I think Midenhall works better with black hair and gigantic tits.
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>>547757571
The secret behind his mastery of Puff-Puff.
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>Erdrick
>Sacrifices everything to save 2 worlds
>Makes sure a random descendant is prepared when evil arises
>Gets forgotten and overshadowed by said descendant with far less achievements
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It seems to be Princess Gwaelin's diary. Read it?
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>>547758885
>she literally prayed to the Goddess for help because she was too horny to sleep



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