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Shellwood edition

Store links:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksong
https://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_Knight

Interactive Map:
https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloom
Game Save Analyzer / Tacker:
https://silksong-completionist.com/
Wiki:
https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Hollow_Knight_Wiki

Previous thread >>546339613
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Glad to see a decent OP this time around.
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>1 reply
>page 7
>over 40 minutes since OP made the general
Just let it die, is a singleplayer game, we don't need a general, even more when we probably won't get news for like 6 months or more
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>>547297315
Sadly have to agree.
We'll start it up again when the DLC is released.
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Alright, this'll be the last thread for a while then unless we get news out of nowhere despite barely being two months out from release.
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>>547297315
We can try being feral retards about fanworks, I guess.
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What's up with the Hollow Knight shirt?
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I don't get why they made the Snitch Peak break rosaries whenever you get hit. Turns it from a solidly valuable yellow to something you only pull out when you grind for money (which you shouldn't need to do very often anyway). Like, why was TC so allergic to the yellows being good, or more generally, giving the player abilities that are genuinely just good without huge hangups that cuck them? There's so many decisions in how they balanced this game that are weird as fuck to me.
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If you have ideas just reply
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>>547308171
Hornet showing the Twisted Bud to the White Lady?
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>>547309791
Like waving her new tentacles at the WL or just holding up the Twisted Bud?
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>>547310458
Was thinking the latter, but either's fine.
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>>547300154
We could try posting decent fanwork instead of the same 20 yurishit ones.
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Can't wait for the Lace tag team DLC.
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>>547319014
...There's plenty of non-shipping fanart in these threads.
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>>547319803
Nothing wrong with ships, it's just that the most prevalent one in this general is the gayest and lamest one.
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>>547322372
Shakra and HK is possibly the ship I approve of most. However, although I dislike Hornet and Lace ship, I dislike HK and Lace more.
Second x Hornet is right up there with Shara and HK imo
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>>547322875
>child wielding needle, who is this... tall friend of yours...?
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>>547322996
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>>547323246
Cinema

>>547322875
>Hornet is made of clockwork bugs. They don't die of old age :)
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>>547324305
>>Hornet is made of clockwork bugs. They don't die of old age
That's a good point. I never considered that.
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>>547324763
>Hornet goes to the Architect Backup room and starts tinkering with them, eventually finishing the Thirteenth Architect
>"What is my Divine Directive?"
>"You make husbandus."
>"... Jesus Christ."
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why is Hornet's gf so doomer pilled
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So wtf made Hornet wince at the start of the game and make her walk slow and pass out?
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>>547326295
Fall damage, same as at the start of Act 3.
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>>547326295
Probably however long she spent motionless in the rune cage until the rune was broken, followed by a comically long fall from Blasted Steps to Moss Grotto.
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>>547326295
Hungy finally getting to her, she has zero concern for self-care.
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>>547297315
Man I was asleep okay
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zamn
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>>547338657
>bumpfagging
Let it go, anon.
Pic rel.
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>>547338829
>bumpfagging
are you retarded or something
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>Tries to teleport away
>Dies anyway
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>>547339245
thats so weird im also on the coral tower playing witch rn
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>>547339605
It's been a lot of fun to use this run. Probably gonna do beast crest next.
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>>547340127
yea im trying the healbomb so far its very nice. The heal being used aggressively is a good change. Also they buffed Khan which is very nice
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>>547340329
>they buffed Khan
They did? He died like a bitch in less than a minute for me, and I wasn't even playing particularly aggressive. Guess witch heal with dual mirrors is just that strong.
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>>547340765
not HP but i noticed he casted faster in phase 2 and also he got an extra cast on the crossrocks he does. Unfortunately he still dies very fast
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>>547340912
I'm not normally one for HP buffs or adds, but he could really use one or the other, because his fight is kind of a disappointment after the gauntlets you go through to get to him.
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>>547341179
same with Nyleth. They both could use some buffs. Karmelita is super easy too but only after you learn her which is fine.
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>>547341407
Yeah, I'm okay with a fight like Karmelita's where it's easy once you learn how they work. Nyleth and Khan are just easy from the start. I still remember the disappointment I felt when I cleared Coral Tower on my first go in my first playthrough and just thought "That was it?"
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I wanna play architect but the pogo is so ass...
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Choral Chambers' music is so...beautiful and nostalgic
I want to cry
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>>547349907
For me, it's https://youtu.be/I3KPdQJBPPc?list=RDI3KPdQJBPPc
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>going insane doing the gauntlet with the lava rising after defeating lava throwing skullfags
>cut off annoying bitch's voice
>cut off the overated music
>I do it first attempt after changing such settings

hunter diagonal kicks with unpredictable flying niggers make me want to pass the devs through multiple dry walls BTW
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>>547324305
>>547324763
Twelfth Architect still managed to hit the wall of old age and welcomed death.
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>>547351403
Pretty sure it was just a lack of maintenance.
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>>547309791
>hey mom, by the way, what is this thing?
>hornet get this thing the fuck away from me this instant
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>>547326295
She's not immune to gravity, she just heals incredibly fast for someone who smashed up most of her shell with a fall.
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>>547351294
and also getting one fourth of a mask is STILL feeling like a half assed reward because everything is so rare and given far and wide between many interest points. And I'm getting two hit points from almost every beings in the game so getting health upgrades so slowly is like a glob of spit in my face.
All of the game is like that. Feels like that. Looks like that. Suffice to say I'm very happy to see it pushed to the side on main boards.


you got what you fucking deserve
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>>547351563
kek

I don't know how much you can do with Twelfth Architect, but I want to see it play with cogflies
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>>547351540
Lack of maintenance and living so long she was longing for death despite everything in the Citadel religion stigmatising that.
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>2 golden male dancer bugs
they were gay right?
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>>547357881
as gay as Lace is straight
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>>547357881
Yes.
It's one gay bug split over two robots to mimic him and his lover.
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how did you guys manage these last 4? i suppose 30hour 100% steelsoul run is very doable right?
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>>547365318
I got the last three on the same run. The 30 hour limit is very forgiving if you're even half familiar with the map.
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>>547365318
>troon based achievements

I'd jump into the nearest grub pond with no silk over doing this shit
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>>547365318
It's pretty doable yes, even my slowass playthroughs managed to get 100% in 26 hours.
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>>547365318
5 hour speedrun i just followed one guys safe route got it done in 3 hours no problemo. For the 30 hour i just did it without intending to do it on my 2nd 100% with 10 hours to spare pretty easy. For 100% Steelsoul once you survive the early Hunters March youre cruising if you play safe. For potential run ender bosses i cheesed with Pollip Cogflies/Spikes or you can take the architect Plasmium overdose route if youre familiar with the crest already. GL
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>>547365619
>>547365684
aight, we doing this shit

>>547365702
do you have to do Hunters March before Shellwood even? even on my first playthrough i remember going back there only when i had more masks/damage cause i was getting obliterated.
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>>547366307
>do you have to do Hunters March before Shellwood even
You don't have to, but if you go there before entering Greymoor then Shakra will help out with the gauntlet in the middle.
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>>547366307
its preference. you get shakras help plus early mask. If youre feeling intimidated by early Hunters you can go do otherstuff and come back later
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>>547366582
>>547366769
oh you guys right, yeah i might go for it then.
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>>547366890
make sure to rush plasmium too it really was a lifesaver in my run you have no idea
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>>547351779
Yes.
(She only has sprites with her asss sat down so i can only do this much)
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If Groal is so great, then how come he's dead?
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>>547372005
Great for a Stilkin is mediocre for others.
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>>547371346
Cute!
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>>547308171
Just a reminder that this is open all thread, all the way to bump limit.
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>>547373142
>Great for a Stilkin is mediocre for others.
That explains the Pinstress.
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>>547375414
Pinstress playing Loddie's game.
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>>547376319
She gets points for singing her theme.
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>>547375414
Hollow Knight riding one of those huge mossgrubs. Hornet looks on with seething envy.
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>>547376451
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>>547386495
Does it still count as a hit if two of the knives miss?
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>>547386645
She just turns around and threatens Loddie if he marks any misses.
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>>547385696
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>>547393173
That's the Vessel you silly goober!

Very cute.
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>>547393173
Did you draw the foreground frame back in? Implessive
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>>547393363
Sometimes people call him Hollow Knight or The Knight and the big one Pure vessel and The Hollow Knight (the The is important there)
It's easy to confuse.
>>547393504
More like carving the png around it but yes, more or less.
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>>547394262
kek
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I love Pebb. Anyone knows what happens if i dont buy the Brooch from her? Can i keep her alive?
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So apparently they upgraded Gurr's boss fight in the last patch, it has a new phase and extra moves.

But did they also stealth buff Khann? He moves way faster. I think originally he started pretty slow and then the pace would pick up in later phases, but now he's basically the same constant high speed.

Hope they rework Pinstress next, what a dogshit fight.
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>>547396790
yep. I just did Khan and phase 2 was definately faster and with more spikes. Gurr feels more difficult aswell although still kinda easy
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https://youtu.be/qXIGrKlGCE4?list=RDqXIGrKlGCE4
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>>547399423
i still think its a damn shame we didnt end up adopting Zaza.
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>>547401267
She chose to die with Garmond and join the rest of the village in death.
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>>547386495
God she looks so silly. Hard to believe she was once like the citadel equivalent of secret police.
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>>547406813
She wasn't a glowie, they were warrior monks who then got backstabbed after opening up classes to the Citadel bugs.
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>>547406881
So she just trained the citadel glowies. Still looks silly.
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>>547412981
Why did she just walk past the Shamans, go rifling through their old bodies, steal some power and then tell them about it? Was it some kind of sick power move?
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>>547413441
Yes
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I missed fighting Garmond in Act 2 and I never bothered learning his patters in the Lost Garmond fight, because the void shit is just annoying. I just spammed poisoned cogflies and kept hitting him with Wanderer to heal enough to survive.
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Hornet corrupting Lace
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>>547425280
At this rate somebody is gonna have to start eating void for a twist. Probably those steel city guys.
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>>547432287
I can only imagine how awful it would be to have an actual needle in a haystack minigame.
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>>547375414
Phantom teaching HK how to play her organ.
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>>547437339
lewd
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>>547395879
>Pebb is the first merchant encountered in Pharloom. If Hornet buys all of her stock, Pebb decides to finally close the shop and continue her pilgrimage to the Citadel, with her tent disappearing once Hornet leaves town again.

I guess so?
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>>547414703
>I never bothered learning his patters in the Lost Garmond fight
Probably don't need to learn his patterns in the Act 2 fight either. Have you seen it? It's kinda a joke.
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>>547437339
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>>547375414
Pinstress and Seamstress finally going to see the grave of their sister in Bilewater
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Just got to putrified ducts, I'm confident TC didn't patch the wall skip that lets you cut to Groal from above, and I'm confident no one in this thread will give me bad news about it.
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>>547396790
>>547398395
Reminder that if you played before this patch you didn't beat the game
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>>547445586
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>>547447080
Closure is important.

Grindle looting Lace's pin
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New Gurr is still giga easy. So much for the ultimate hunter.
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>>547308171
Some ideas:

Final ending cutscene, but it's Zote who saves them
Trobbio but he looks like a Grimm Troupe member
Sherma playing with the Fleas or with the Bell Beast
Garmand and Shakara interacting
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>>547447227
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Why did the shamans agree to cast the spell if they knew it would destroy them?
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>>547448893
They fucked up and feel guilt
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>>547446430
I wont say it then, but if you find that you're having a lot of trouble doing the wall skip, please give up on it.
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>>547448801
kek

>>547448893
They're doomers. The Hermit gives his reason clearly: Ages of souls, and he'd rather them go out in a blaze of glory
The chapel keeper gives it freely, to help you stop Silk
The Caretaker just seems to want to help unfuck the release of the Void
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>>547448981
Don't worry, I've been trying for just 4 hours, I'm sure it's just a tricky angle, next try it will work for sure.
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>>547446430
They're super quick about patching out glitches. The early Memorium glitch (where you use Beast's charged attack to jump higher) was patched like 2 days later.

I love it personally, you have to actually play the game rather than abuse glitches. When the Groal skip was still a thing you'd see it recommended in every fucking reddit thread because people are lazy as hell. It's not even a hard boss, would be a faceroll without the gauntlet and the runback.
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>>547449605
If it's been four hours, at this point, I think it might be faster to beat Groal.
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>>547450720
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Dear lord the Architect pogo will take some getting used to. Maybe Steelsoul wasnt the best place to try Architect lmao
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>>547452273
The Architect pogo is much less shit if you charge it (hold the button).
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>>547395879
No, she disappears in Act 3 and her stuff turns up in Grindle's shop like every other presumed dead merchant.
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Ok i think i settled on a good build for Architect steelsoul. Ill call it tank Architect with icecrystal/lantern/Weavelight/ plasmium overdose/ Spikes and Cogflies.
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>>547448893
They have faith in Hornet saving Pharloom.
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>>547456328
Now you won't abuse quit-to-menu when you lose health anymore, right?
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>>547456414
i only quit out for fast travel.
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>>547458071
You didn't beat the game.
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Man, I forgot how weak the start of Act 3 is
>Tummy Hort segment where you don't get any crests charms or skills to fight that one gauntlet
>Bell Eater (giga cringe)
>Pinstress (mega cringe)
>Crawfather (super cringe)
I was so tilted I wasn't even enjoying my flea bounce
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>>547448801
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>>547463198
There are people who died to Crawfather? I thought the whole point was this cool cinematic sequence where Hornet shreds a whole nest of emo craws because she's just that awesome. And then you get free money and shards for the rest of the run.
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I am horny for Hornet.
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>>547463198

literally all of those bosses are super easy(unless its your first run)
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>>547463692
I died twice before realizing it was a Thread Storm gearcheck fight, but whoever thought it's a good idea for the boss to be endless waves of the fat birds that literally nobody likes (now immune to pogo because fuck you) has extremely questionable judgment.
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>>547463198
Crawfather is based. Pinstress is based. You're a fag. Possibly even a chud.
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>>547463692
>I thought the whole point was this cool cinematic sequence where Hornet shreds a whole nest of emo craws because she's just that awesome.
On that note would Hornet accept the Craws' judgement if they made their summons after Act 3 so she couldn't just go "I'm the only one who can stop this disaster so I'll kill my way out of the trial"?
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>>547464120
Pinstress is based on what? Boredom while you wait for her to float back down so she's actually hittable with one (uno) charge attack?
>Equip Weaverlight and Pale Nails
>Play the keepaway waiting game until she eventually just dies on her own
>Time status: wasted
Way to go TC
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>you can throw a Pompillo to the grabplants in Putrified Ducts and it grabs it and attempts to eat it
>Architect empowered attack gives Shredded Organs
This games attension to detail is insane you can tell it was made with love
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>>547463692
>There are people who died to Crawfather?
Yes. There are people who died to something you didn't die to. I assume there's no boss that not a single person died too.

Likewise, I assume there's people that didn't die to the bosses you died to.
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>>547465683
>Architect empowered attack gives Shredded Organs
If an enemy dies from their own fire/burning attack, it can give seared organs.
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>>547467432
Instant protector instinct
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>>547467432
I like how universal the urge to rush to Whiteward is whenever anyone gets to that wish for the first time.
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>>547467587
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I really miss the hollow knight charged attacks. That giant-ranged BAM slash was so good, having it would make a ton of bosses way more fun to fight.
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>>547470612
Did you not talk to the Pinstress?
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>>547471226
No, I did. Its just that the needle strikes you get aren't good replacements. A lot of them are multi-hit flurries which usually feature all but the first hit getting blocked/parried or dodged by the mob, and the crests that do have good charged attacks (like Reaper) have bad "regular" movesets. They are a casualty of the crest system.
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>>547467587
This game seems to have a policy of killing off NPCs. I went there quickly 'cause I was worried he'd die and I'd possibly miss something.
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Who /Zenzibooooooooo/ here?
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>>547473425
I think everyone appreciates Garmond and Zaza being bros and wishes that they paced themselves in Act 3.
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>>547471615
>A lot of them are multi-hit flurries
I'm a wanderer main and I pretty much never use the charge atk. The charge atk does 5 hits at x0.6 damage for a total of x3 damage. In the time it takes for the charge atk animation to end, I could have done two needle hits, with a small chance of either of them being a crit. Except for very specific cases, I don't think it's worth it just to go from x2 to x3 since it's just a single hit difference.
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>>547473718
>We probably could have knocked the Void off of Garmond like with Lace
>Except he'd worn himself so thin from constant battle, the Void slipped into his exhaustion, and was too entrenched to expel
I'm
SAD
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>>547463692
>>547463942
>Thread Storm
I just used Sawtooth Circlet. And yes, I did die to it.
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>>547476380
I wish he stuck around enough to comment on Hornet killing her way out of the Slab and knocking down a dozen doors.
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Groal dead in 10 seconds from spawning. Jesus bro Architect is the NUTS. I didnt even have Quicksling it was a defensive Steelsoul build
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I think it'd be fun if a modder made a modified Hunter crest called "Protector of Hallownest" or some shit that had 1 red and 3 white slots, so you could use Hornet's HK loadout of sting shard + thread spear + thread storm + parry
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>>547479127
>1 red and 3 white slots,
how tf would that work controls wise
also, I don't remember Hornet having a parry in HK
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>>547480290
Hornet 2 does have a parry
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>>547479127
There should be a crest with at least 1 red and two spell slots. It would go hard.
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>>547480290
>>547480347
The same parry as the HK even to show they went to the same school of swordsmanship.
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>I don't know what memory locket I'm missing so I have to visit all the map locations
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>>547480290
You would probably have to add a new keybind for the tool
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just lost 700 roseries
...
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>>547482349
Tie your rosaries...
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>>547482349
>>547482585
Bro? Your silk eaters?
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>>547481470
Check the devious ones like the Halfway Home or Bellhart ones first.
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>>547479127
2 whites are enough, you can say the harpoon is the spear
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Did you use the "back to menu" tech for your steel soul run?
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>>547483486
about to go to act 3 soon no quitouts with this homecooked tank Architect build. Flame and Pompillo flex spots. Tons of fun and really strong
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>>547483486
>>547484846
on the run that i got the achievement though i saved scammed like 3 times 2 for the red ant start of HM(lol) and once on Lost Lace. Mainly the reason im redoing it i want to do it legit
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>>547322875
I wish sherma were a girl. I would like how they look next to HK
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>>547477819
Time is money.
Also, if I was in jail, and I found a way out, I probably wouldn't stick around just to watch another inmate.
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>>547481470
There's a save checker in the OP. It'll tell you where you missing one is.
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>>547486462
If Sherma was a girl, I'd probably be slightly more interested. As he is now he just seems like a weak guy and I'm not too respectful of such a thing.
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>>547487315
so cool
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>the mist
omg how
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>>547488510
play your funky music whiteboy
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>>547489074
Did anyone else have no idea you could do this and just moved around randomly until reaching the other side instead?
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>>547489870
it seemed obvious to me, the butterflies are very obviously relevant and there isn't that many things you could possibly do to interact with them
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>>547487248
Thanks, you're a life saver.
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>>547489870
I was spoiled on it, so Idk if I would've figured it out on my own or not.
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>>547489870
me on my first run. But thats probably because i didnt have a Needolin yet. I just kept exploring
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Does it ever get pointed out how clever Grand Mother Silk's name is? It gets so much done with so little. On the one hand "Grand Mother" has a very fitting religious connotation, in the sense that she is the thing that stands at the centre of everything and she's some kind of figurehead. Then there's the fact that's she's the "Mother" of Lace, so her title doubles as her most important relation. Then also, she's literally Hornet's "Grandmother", since she's the mother of the Weavers, and Hornet is the daughter of one of them. Has to be intentional
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>>547483486
Once on Lost Lace because I started off really poorly and just couldn't be assed trying to catch back up. Got her on the next try.
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The Void arena at the start of act 3 is the ONLY time i dont feel bad for quitting out. Stripping you of all tools back to hunter and at 4 hp. Who the FUCK though this was a good idea. Really
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>>547484846
>>547486195
we're cheering on you anon
you can do it
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>>547497547
i broke the no quit out rule at the start of act 3. I am a massive fraud but i did quit out to get to full hp. Did i need to in the end? No. But i still did it. Fuck that void arena i aint risking 15 hours of Steelsoul on it.
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>>547498131
it's so FVCKING over
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>>547497548
swap Khann with Phantom, Moorwing with Seth and Groal with Palestag and we're in agreement
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>>547498225
to be absolutely fair that part was not designed with SteelSoul in mind is quitting out to start act 3 at full hp really cheating?. I still plan to do the rest of the run legit just to test the build out but it rubs me the wrong way even though i know it shouldnt cause its just stupid. A single contact damage from a voided enemy and youre dead if you do it the "intented" way.
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>>547497548
kill yourself
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>>547498376
I like Khann aesthetic & music too much
Seth I just didn't have a good time fighting him, frustated me
>Groal with Palestag
Actually yeah, I agree
>>547503635
? What?
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When the fuck did HK get a general...
Anyways, I've yet to play Silksong
Is there news for updates, or does the game have everything it can get for now?
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>>547504741
Welcome to the DLC waiting room. At this point we're about ready to kill each other for news.
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>>547504741
its a completed game they are gonna add an ambitious dlc later
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>>547505018
>>547505031
k thanks, I'll pirate it now
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>>547505117
That's what I did, then I bought it for my 100% run
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>>547505117
you're so fucking cool
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Pirating this game is a choice alright. product of love by the devs and a phenomenal game it would leave a stain on my soul. I do like to support these type of games
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>>547505423
I doubt TC cares if a handful of nerds on 4chan pirate their game
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>>547505664
i mean it doesnt matter the game sold millions of copies but these type of games should be rewarded. Pirating the tripleaslop is morally right though
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>>547505423
They have too much money. It doesn't make any difference. Go spend that $20 on an underappreciated good indie game
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>>547447897
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Any news of more content?
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>>547507571
>>547509442
I like these.
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>>547509537
no
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oooo nice Celeste is 75% off. Time to improve my platforming for the Silksong DLC
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>>547491793
It gets pointed out occasionally, yes.
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Can't the new battlefield be cheaper???
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>>547492397
>>547498131
I still think that moment is specifically for 100% steel soul players.
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>>547512147
its very annoying but also easy if that makes sense. I deleted the run since i broke the quitout rule but its a very easy fight you shouldnt get hit more than once. Still its enough to intimidate almost anyone since the enemies are voided.
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>>547509442
Zote the GOAT
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Only reason I could do steel soul in HK was the Pantheon, without it it kinda feels like rolling a dice on how you will perform everytime you start a boss
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>>547513313
Zote rhymes with blot-eh

retard
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>>547514015
He tell you that?
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>>547514386
He literally shouts his name during the boss fight
https://youtu.be/VHZZgIlhqtM?t=4
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>>547514847
Didn't sound anything like blot-eh.
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>>547514997
>american education
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Taking a break after smashing out about 100 hours in Silksong fairly quickly, might pick it up for another run in a month or so, might try out a handful other metroidvanias for now if anyone has any suggestions.

Started playing Blasphemous, digging the aesthetic and gameplay so far. Nine Sols felt a bit sluggish after Silksong, but might just have to give it another shot.
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>>547546924
What would a Lord of Shades boss be like?
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>>547483486
absolutely, if it wasn't allowed it wouldn't be in the game

You can still lose runs with savescumming, it's just less likely
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>>547531468
Play Ender Lilies/Magnolia, they're very similar to HK/SS.
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dame dame miyu~
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>>547554747
Dame da ne
Dameyo
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~bump
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Can someone please explain the LL fight? She counters every single thing I do, you either die to fucking contact damage, counters or the mile wide void tendrils.

I can barely beat her with a cheesy Wanderer build, but I want to actually understand what the fuck was the designer's intent here. Speedrunners make it look easy where they're constantly attacking, but I just die instantly if I try that.

Trying to beat her on my Beast run and it might actually be impossible. You can barely heal 2 masks with this jank heal in this fight (unlike Wanderer's guaranteed 4), so a lot less margin for error.
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>>547560943
You beat LL either by memorizing her patterns or being patient

I went from a straight 8 loss-streak until I just pumped the brakes.
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>>547560943
every fight has a learning curve. The more you do something the better you get at it. You just have to keep playing with the focus of learning her patterns. Every animation she does telegraphs her move with plenty of opportunities for adjusting accordingly. In short GIT GUUUD
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>>547560943
I went from dying almost instantly, being able to get to her second stage without a hit, then able to smash her pretty quickly with only needing maybe one heal. It was gitgud, but just throw more time at her and play slow so you can recognise her patterns and dodge them successfully before going ham on damage runs.
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>>547562572
>>547565290
Probably should've specified that I need Beast specific tips. The long horizontal pogo is pretty bad for this fight and the "hit enemy 3x in 5 sec" heal is also super unreliable here, you'll be lucky to get off 2 masks. Sure I can throw in plasmium phial but it only gets you that far.

I can do it just fine with Wanderer, in fact that's what I did just now because I didn't want to miss out on the 30h completion cheevo. With Wanderer I basically spam pogo on literally every one of her attacks and hit her with regular attacks 2-3 times when she's stationary, even more when she's summoning shit. Which gives me near infinite silk to heal for 4 masks as much as I need to.

Basically, do I need to be Ongbal to do this with Beast? Kinda sucks I had to cheat on my Beast run, but at least the boss doesn't despawn so I can redeem my honor haha
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>>547560943
>She counters every single thing I do
If she ripostes you, jump directly upwards, and feel free to pogo her. He riposte is practically a free hit onto her.
>you either die to fucking contact damage, counters or the mile wide void tendrils.
>but I want to actually understand what the fuck was the designer's intent here. Speedrunners make it look easy where they're constantly attacking
I assume they're baiting her in some ways. From what I understand, for example, if you're in a certain spot after her dash-dash-X, you'll know what her X will be, then counter strike. You can also bait her riposte by hitting her parry (again, free pogo as mentioned above). I'm sure there's other baits for her as well.
If you're dying to contact damage, stop recklessly baiting her void ascensions.
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>>547566525
>With Wanderer I basically spam pogo on literally every one of her attacks
Likewise XD I also pogo-ed her to death in my fight. It was the safest thing I saw to do.
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>>547560943
>She counters every single thing I do
you can just wait out the counter, you know? Like in the first phase she does it after almost any attack that gives you an opening, so just read her better. If she does the counter and you anticipate it you get a free hit in. Typically when I fight her anything except the 2x lunge -> jump -> diagonal dash I would just expect a counter immediately after and punish her. Hell, even if you trigger the counter you can either jump (horizontal counter) or run away from it (aerial counter) and you're still fine.
In the later phases she counters much less. best damage windows are the void attacks, you can pretty much wail on her during/after those
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What is Silksong's "No Cost Too Great" equivalent?
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>>547569389
GMS's silk heart dialog after defeating Lace 2 pretty much mirrors that scene from HK:
>...Better a child spun mad... than none...
>...Better a child spun frail... than none...
>...Better a child spun pure... than them...
>...One to wish our waking...
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>>547569675
Oops, there's one more line, forgot to copy it.
>...From our Silk... A child born loyal...
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>>547560943
There's nothing to explain. It's just bullshit and that's it. The game hates you. Team cherry hates you. It's RNG until you get lucky and beat it
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>>547574142
>Any boss that doesn't repeat the same attacks in a repeating pattern is just a luck simulator.
I feel bad for you if you genuinely think this way.
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>Constance releases tomorrow
Are we excited? It's a pretty high effort HK like game, though it also takes a lot of inspiration from Celeste so might skew more towards platforming. Has pogos and everything. The demo is out already.
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>>547576675
>tfw more invested in the HK story and atmosphere than the gameplay
It'd be nice playing a different game but it just wouldn't be the same, man
TC is raping my fun
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>>547560943
LL is all about positioning. Every one of her attacks has a single Correct response where you have to be standing somewhere very specific relative to her in order to deal damage. It isn't hard to avoid her attacks, but actually dealing damage back is very precise Simon Says. There's no way out of learning this positioning besides dying a shitload of times until you learn what you can get away with by brute force.
Similarly, unless you are moving in response to LL's attack, you should be standing still. LL is actually a very slow-paced fight. You don't want to move in "neutral" because it might interfere with the Simon Says spacings of her next move. More importantly, not moving is the only way to be safe from her teleporting underneath your feet.
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YOOOO, LETS GOOOO no quitscum, and 4hp act3 ofc , AMA
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>>547578351
Good luck with the tummy hort gauntlet bro
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>>547578351
'Grats.
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>>547308171
An edit of Sharpe actually being in the game somewhere would be hilarious
Doubly so if it's with that nose attack from the concept art
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>>547578441
Needle Art was goat there. Art + 2 attacks and the flyer's done. Easy first wave and a heal.
t. lost my first attempt there

>>547578485
ty ty <3
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>>547578351
big. Im doing one no savequits with reaper right now ama do bilewater until eira then go to act 2. Dreading that void gauntlet not because its hard but because you feel so valrunable
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>>547580080
Have you fought the new Gurr, yet? You might want to load a file to see it for yourself before steel soul. His buff was HUGE
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>>547581752
yea hes very different i fought him but desu really easy still especially with true silkshot which destroys his traps.
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I was so slow to the Hollow Knight hype, didn’t play the first until Silksong dropped. Immediately obsessed but was stuck with the feeling of ‘I’ll do as much as I feel is technically a ‘good’ playthrough and move on for now’. So left HK with I think 6 cheevos, finishing the hunters journal, 112% completion, pantheon stuff, etc.
Now just finished Silksong 100% yesterday and clocked 100 hours in a really short time so need a small break, revisiting HK to complete it in full and man pantheon 3 is still a struggle.
Any tips for pantheons? I’m putting myself at a disservice by swapping between keyboard and controller too often.

I don’t think I’ve played a metroidvania since metroid fusion when it came out as a kid, think i’m gonna source a gameboy sp just to get full nostalgic as well
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bros, nightmare king grimm is making path of pain look easy. how the actual fuck do I git gud at this? I already cleared the entire game besides him and god place boss rush.
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>>547583261
NKG was killing me for ages, where do you train your eyes? I ended up just staring at him and using my peripheral vision to be dodging while eying the next move
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>>547583436
same as radiance I guess, im in dodge everything mode. I even learned to parry his starting move into 5 fireballs (and still get hit by contact damage lmao)
I feel like if I predict wrong or im not already doing what I need to for different moves he just deletes me.
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>>547583257
i ll be honest its just practice and boss familiarity. In my case i did all the bosses radiant after p4 to leave the p5 cinematic as the end goal but the radiant bosses give you so much experience that it cheapens the achievement of doing p5. So you can be like me and do bosses radiant or just hammer your way through the pantheons normally and when you beat it you will have a much bigger sense of achievement
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>>547585457
you can step back or dash through him. but ideally you want to save the dash for when you cant dodge his downward flames. Its a boss that becomes very easy once you learn him
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>>547585457
when I played my response to that move was to jump up, pogo him once or twice, and then slash him as he goes up into fireballs
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>>547583870
I think I’ll find a day I can bash through pure practice, I’m dying to the beast likr a fool
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>>547583261
>nightmare king grimm
Sharp Shadow. When he does the ground dash just dash through him then immediately stop moving, the fireballs won't hit you. And he uses this move all the time, so you get great damage + a huge healing window, kinda hard to lose like this.

All the other attacks are pretty obvious except for the bats. You have to imagine them as two rows and your goal is to needle the thread, I like to double jump until I'm at the right height then I dash through them.

But overall, this boss is too fast to react to, so you will die at least 10-20 times before developing the muscle memory and then it will become one of the easier bosses in the game. It's always the same attacks and the same speed, super consistent.
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>>547587561
i got the bats finally thankfully, just mid jump and the 4th one misses. the dash through the middle thing I saw in speedrun videos does not work.
i've already died like 100 times, no way is this the easiest boss once you know it, i've beaten the radiance 3 seperate times for fun at this point and he is WAAAY harder.
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>>547587946
>died like 100 times
wtf man

Watch this video, this is basically how I fight him, it's super consistent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTMA1WcwtHc

Like I said, sharp shadow into his ground dash gives you a big healing window, and then you also have the spike healing window, so it's kinda hard to lose unless you tank way too many hits.
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>>547587946
Also, you can just banish him by going back to the cave where you summoned the troupe and talking to Brumm. You'll get +1% completion and a different achievement and a much better charm as the reward (Carefree Melody, it's like the lucky dice in SS but with a higher chance of triggering). There are 2 achievements, one for beating him (lore wise, helping him be reborn) and another for banishing him, so 2 runs are necessary, just like with Zote (save or neglect) and Nailsmith (assist with suicide or let him be gay).

But he will still appear in P5, unlike Zote who will not appear if dead.
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>>547587946
>no way is this the easiest boss once you know it
by the time you're ready to clear pantheon 5 you will practically never take damage from him, out of the final gauntlet of fuckery at the end he may well be easier and more consistent than even champ or soul tyrant, not that any of them pose a threat
his attacks are extremely consistent and you can respond to all of them in the virtually the exact same way every time, you just have to learn the dance
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~Bump-a-roo
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What gross material did Nuu use to make her memento?
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There is an easy to abuse exploit in the current version. Basically, blue masks do not clear upon entering/exiting any of the 4 memories in Act 3, letting you get an easy plasmium overdose with any crest (not just architect).
>equip plasmium phial
>enter any memory, use phial 6x
>exit memory, you keep 6 blue masks but tool charges reset
>re-enter memory if want to overdose there (use phial 3x), or just overdose in the real world
I already reported it on Team Cherry's bug tracker but have fun while it still works! This allows a very abusable overdose with practically any boss and crest.
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I want to french kiss Nuu and her freaky lips.
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Hey, what the fuck, am I learning new things about my favorite tool?
>https://x.com/bluebrazedi/status/1992462078226121086
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>>547604298
Did you never bother to check the wiki page of your favorite tool?
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Im gonna save Architect for act 3 man(if i survive the 4 hp void gauntlet) back to good old Hunter. Crazy how much farming you need to do to keep up with Shard costs
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>>547551867
Just gotta make sure you have a guide on which abilities are used for movement because they don't spell out which of the extra ghosts you'll need to use for movement tech to get everything.
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>>547611526
Are you using shard pendant?
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>>547612796
im assuming you meant to reply to me and yes but still its penuts. Especially with the Plasmium overdose build im running
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>>547560943
The secret is that this game loves to spook you with scary looking attacks that are hard countered by tiny movements. Patience and precision do more for you than panic sprinting.
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>>547609123
>check the wiki page
Typically, I engage with the game at face value. But after I made that post, I decided to look at the wiki to understand if that video is real.
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Had to dog deeper to find the actual sprite since it's not in the files. Had to extract a frame from a gif.
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Maaan, I struggled so much with Punished Trobbio on my 1st run, it was like NKG tier, and I played Wanderer aka the best crest. But on this janky Beast run I first tried him, just like that. Didn't even get hit once by the bomb beams (only the tornados plus fireworks once). This game is just weird, things are hard or easy randomly for no reason, lol.
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holy shit it was kino
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>>547615480
Yeah, she's cool.
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>>547615480
would you mind not posting stuff about my Silkwife? Thank you.
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>>547615480
Made me wish I had figured out The Mist before giving up and just going to fight Last Judge.
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>>547612976
nta, I was running throw build with pulip/sling and mega drill spam. The shards were managable there. Overdose doesn't seem worth it. That shit is over 117 shards for a flesh pop + 50 rosaries to refill, I can craft almost 50 threefold pins with those!!
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>the twisted bud snuggling around Hornet's bug innards
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>>547627062
It should have been me
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>>547627062
Crazy that the game's hard mode is a bad end.
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Behold, a meme template
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>>547630869
>I'm traumatized
>I'm gay
>I don't have a penis
kind of a shit template
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>game made for mentally challenged trannies has mentally challenged trannies approved quests ( because you need to be recognized as being on the spectrum to be given entry to such rubbish quests, for anyone knows only retards living in a bubble of delusion can get overly attached to repetition and dehumanizing tasks ) where, after doing so many busywork and getting depressed by back and forth adventures you're tasked with doing a perfect run through the whole ass map ( map which is given the dogshit award of metroidvania games, you got zero precise informations from opening it so you NEED to know the road by heart ), not getting hit and on a timer to deliver a ball of meat ( allegedly the severed man sack of hollow reddit's biggest fan )


fuck this game
fuck this game
fuck its fans
It's an avalanche of redundancy, tediousness, unfunny torture events. The "it insists upon itself" meme? That's the one game that fits this meme.
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Someone translate that to english?
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Someone salvage reddit song into a decent 6/10?
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>>547635319
LOL
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>>547636126
See what I mean? The trannoid thinks his achievement matters when a normal human is irritated enough by the size of the despicable nonsense he's bid to complete by deviantart bugs and will shut the game off. Thus when critics rise the troon see not the problem, he mistakes it for jealousy.
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>>547636549
>will shut the game off
You're in the thread.
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>>547636783
Yeah pissing on reddit song fans isn't a big an ordeal as playing it.
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>>547637059
You're so mad.
Imagine if you made it to act 3, you'd probably commit a mass shooting.
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>>547635319
Bro it's not even that hard, fuck off. This shit is ezmode compared to the flower quest from last game
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how to farm shards
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>>547638443
farm rosaries from the grand reeds in act 2 and buy shard bundles with them
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>>547638762
Grand Reeds are a mid farming spot. Keep walking left to the bench before High Halls and kill the 3 jobbers in that room over and over. Way more efficient.
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>>547638762
>>547639060
thanks, getting stuck at lava Beastfly due to no shards left
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i thought i could pause mid death animation in a steel soul run...
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>>547641735
Nope, you only have like a few frames at the very beginning of it.
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>>547642039
flew too close to the sun, guess i'll retry it again when dlc drops.
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>>547641735
If you Alt+F4 out before the animation finishes the backup file won't get overwritten
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I really dislike the Conductor gauntlet. Had no problems beating everything else with minimal upgrades but I have died to the double mini-boss at the end twice
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>>547643816
good to know
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>>547630869
Why do shitty tumblr artists draw uninfected HK as a cripple?
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>>547672590
Because simply growing back the lost arm and bigass crack in the head is not intuitive, despite the many ways to justify it.
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Jesus FUCK. I almost lost the steelsoul to the Raging Cogfly. Mask broken at 1 hp had to lock in like never before. Didnt take a single hit from that point on BUT FUCK MAN. I always underestimate that boss and i go at it like im Speedrunning
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>>547672867
If HK ever becomes playable, the very first thing that would happen is a tutorial telling you to focus soul so he can fix his shell and regenerate his arm.
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>>547641735
You always ALWAYS quit to menu the moment your fractured mask breaks.
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>>547644170
Same. Double mini-boss wave is practically a regular boss wave with how tight that space is.
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>>547675562
I'd prefer the arm to be done by molting per mundane arthropod recovery, tying into a near-completionist "Become Actual Wyrm" ending.

...THAT could be a funny post-canon Silksong fic. "Big Sibling has arrived and now cannot fit any local infrastructure".
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>>547675562
I don't think he'd be able to make an entire new arm desu
Fixing the mask on the other hand, plausible.
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>farm 3k rosaries for act 3 shards and die to the 4hp void arena
>farm nothing and live the 4hp void arena but have no rosaries
I love having options
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>>547614583
OH SHIT
BASED AF
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alrighty wish me luck broskies. No backups no savequits
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>>547678501
and i got hit by the vent because i was nervous. Love it. 2 hp im not quitting out
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>>547678501
fuck im safe. I played like the biggest pussy thank god charge attack got my back. Only got hit once by contact dmg near the end. the run continues
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>>547675562
>>547677074
What the fuck he's alive?
So.. Godhome ending is the canon one?
Or is the regular one the canon one
Anyways, I need to close the tab...
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>>547679960
As far as I know there's nothing of The Hollow Knight in Silksong, the Godhome implication is the Act 3 ending having a flash-frame of Void Given Focus.
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>>547678772
>>547678501
Good job, nonny.
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>>547678772
nice job, anon. should be a smooth sailling from here
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>>547683067
yea all im worried about rn is the ant void gauntlet and only because i dont remember much about it.
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>>547683128
easy as fuck as it turns out. Architect with Pin Badge feels so nice
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noooo I was about to buy his shards
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>>547686356
Gurr must pay.
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Team Cherry don't fuck around, huh. Was the first game this grim? I've heard the Citadel is worse than The Pale King.
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>>547688793
it is
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>>547686884
Since when did gurr use spears???
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>>547688793
Signing the Pale King apology form is an essential part of the skong experience.
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I was testing some stuff against Karmelita since you cant die in dreams in preparation for the LL fight. Does LL remove tacks from the ground? this is important. Im trying to piece out the most optimal LL safe build.
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>>547693819
>three yellow
>one blue
>one red
What crest is this?
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Way easier than i thought why was i so stressed. Finally defrauded myself from using savequits on Steelsoul 100% and i can now join DLC waiting room with peace of mind.
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>>547693935
A confused wanderer player.
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>>547695650
I knew you had it in you, anon
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>try to find first heart for Elegy of the Deep
>bump into Green Prince
>objective updated
>wonder who else the elegy can work on
>scanning and memorizing the map for potential targets that meet a loose criteria
>check wiki
>it's just Green Prince
That would have been slightly annoying.
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>>547678772
Good work.
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>>547695650
welcome to the club, buddy
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>>547695146
>cogflies
>tacks
You didn't beat SS
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>>547698270
you know i might aswell see what would have happened if i went in with Hunter
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>>547698270
>>547698429
Much closer since i havent played against her with Hunter outside of my first playthrough. Still got her though.
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>>547699530
Man I was just joking, I'm still stonewalled on LL on gay baby mode
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>>547699618
dont let that get you down. She clowned on me on my first playthrough aswell
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Courier's Rasher is so hard
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>>547703108
Seems pretty squishy to me.
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>>547703661
im stealing your pic
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I'm in love with an ant
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>>547706145
Imagine giving her a sugar cube.
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>>547703108
Enter through Exhaust Organ. Pre-kill the flying mobs in Sinner's Road. Don't need to do anything else. Enjoy your ez first try.
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>>547703108
Yeah, trying to no hit Last Judge while on a timer was a challenge.
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>>547706145
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>>547712740
>offscreen barking
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Time to free the sacrifice so that Karmelita can live.
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>>547714209
>Sparing Karmelita
>so she can keep wasting away in obscurity
>instead of letting her relive her prime, adored by an entire civilisation and a battle for her life
I'm 99.9% certain that Karmelita would want to meet her end at Hornet's hands instead of having her body just give out in a dirty hole in the ground
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>>547715315
The only reason Karmelita lost her power is because of the haunting taking away her subjects' support. With GMS gone, she has a chance to recover. Plus the Skarr population is still going strong.
What is the gay bug going to do? Sit around and cry in his dead cave?
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>>547715532
we got a speedreader over here. She literally tells you her power and voice were taken by time. She is very old by the time we meet her
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>>547715532
>If power... you come seeking... mine is faded.... mortal... time taken...
>Hornet: I seek only to save these lands, great one, to break them free from this fatal sickness born of thread and void.
>Kcha! If you may... beast... If you can...

Karmelita is literally a mortal bug. She's just old, man.
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>>547715718
>>547715807
There's still nothing to indicate that she wants to die, only that she's willing to because of her heart being required to save Pharloom as a whole.
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>>547716142
bro where the fuck are you getting this from? did she tell you she wants to sacrifice herself for Pharlooms sake in a dream or something?
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>>547693819
The big void waves remove tacks, but that's it
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*aggressively petting*
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>>547725356
i have literally never used this tool. I wonder if its any good
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>>547710342
You are still insane/genius for doing that.
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>>547728531
Pretty sure you can do Rasher -> Lugoli too.
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Just learned that the best Courier's Rasher route is Blasted Steps not Sinner's Road.
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>>547729079
ive always been doing it from Phantom route. Pretty comfortably too. Its because on my first playthrough i entered the Citadel through the Mist and didnt discover Last Judge until after i was done with rasher.
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>>547729291
I tried Sinner's Road many times but couldn't deal with the crocodiles, traps, flies and maggots.
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>>547729079
Blasted Steps is the only courier's route I've ever done. Just seems obviously easier to me, if you know you don't have to go through the Underworks. You can also pre-kill mobs on it too, though I guess that goes for both routes.
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>>547729079
I went through the mist because I didn't know there was a double jump until after I explore the whole of Act II without the slab and mount fay
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>>547728850
There's also rasher and father of the flame.
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>>547732879
i find that hard to believe. Father of the flame takes WAY too long to kill unless there is a cheese method i dont know about.
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>>547733176
Conchcutter absolutely shits on FotF
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>>547732879
>>547733176
lmao i just learned you can use flintslate on him. How that makes sense i have no clue
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guys where to get double jump, Courier's Rasher Blaster Steps route needs it for Grand Gate climbing kek
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>>547734289
Go climb a mountain.
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>>547734289
You need to be in act 1. You do a cool healjump to get Sharpdart in the wormways. Then you get the reaper crest and go down to Weavenest Alpha to get Weavelight. Now all you need to do is get captured in act 1 either in bilewater or in Deep Docks. After you escape jail head west and start your climb to get double jump. It shouldnt take more than 20 hours good luck.
Heres a video to help you through this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC9LS9KuCJo
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>>547735213
>>547735748
yay
totally forgot I can nail the golden rings now to get up
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>>547734681
Uh, Varga, what you doing there, buddy?
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getting double jump should not be this hard wtf!
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>>547739586
now imagine doing it no clawline
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>>547739763
i jjust cant
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>>547727801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44Rckg5Ppg
You can go full DMC with it
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>>547739961
>>547739586
You'll get there anon
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>>547732879
>>547733176
I still believe boss fights with flame using enemies (Father of the Flame, Last Judge) should pause the rasher timer on the idea that fighting these enemies makes the area warm.
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>>547734681
If you think about, since they're both fleas, this is probably normal procreation.
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>>547735748
To the madlads that do this, reminder to have bellways usable since you can get soft locked in the Slab if you can't use the bellways to get out.
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Wheres the DLC sisters?
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>>547744004
Bro, it's been like two months.
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time to take a shower
it was kino too
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>>547744085
two months too long i know. Success makes you lazy i guess
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>>547746925
it takes time to develop the fully fledged sex systems required for the DLC and drawing all the cum sprites Hornet is going to need
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>>547747181
They better give us a full cinematic of Hornet silkpregnating Lace or im not buying it.
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>>547747464
Nah, Hornet's going to stitch a silkdick onto Lace. The Pale King programming kicks in, and she gets MKUltra'd into Continuing the Bloodline
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>>547748036
Where is the Hollow Knight during all of this?
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>>547744004
I'd love some sisters DLC.
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I HATE PANTHEON MARKOTH
I HATE PANTHEON MARKOTH
I HATE PANTHEON MARKOTH
I HATE PANTHEON MARKOTH
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here ya food old basterd
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Architect Crest seems kinda op
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>>547752486
On the cuck chair lmao
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>59 hours to beat this bitch
Savage Beast Fly 2 was the hardest part so far. How do I unlock Act 3?
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>>547773830
>>59 hours to beat this bitch
Massive skill issue.

>How do I unlock Act 3?
It's a check of how many quests you've completed. Just keep playing the game and a new quest will eventually appear. Shakra's quest + acquiring a bellhome are hard requirements though.
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>>547729079
The Mist is much faster. On my last playthrough I figured whatever I'll try the Mist and go as slow as possible to avoid bumping into shit. Got it first try with 3 pips left over. And I didn't even memorize the route and was fooling around looking up where I am on the map lmao

It's all about not taking hits. Just thread storm away the annoying enemies in Sinner's Road and then clawline over the Citadel boys once you get there.
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Would fans be pissed if the third game wasn't about Zote? They didn't even originally clear that funding goal, did they?
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>>547773830
Do this wish: https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Silk_and_Soul
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>>547752486
Preparing for HK2, gotta wait until his sister's spinoff is done.
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>>547754449
yeah ascended markoth was my biggest cockblock to beating pantheon 5, took me quite a while to get to abs rad the first time to unlock her for practice, and then after practicing her until I felt comfortable I never even ended up dying to her in a run but STILL had multiple new runs ended by that faggot
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>>547747181
>>547747464
>>547748036
>>547769330
>american hours /hkg/
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what's the purpose of this beautiful underground lake
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>>547781053
a hidden waterway leading to Pharloom Bay
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>>547781053
It's a fleeting utopia.
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How popular is the theory that The Pale King metamorphosed again?
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>>547781053
To show you what ALL of Bilewater was like before the rise of Pharloom. It clear to understand why the stilkin are filled with hate for other bugs and take their shells and souls
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>>547784850
>the rise of Pharloom
>hate for other bugs
The Citadel, you dip. There's even two instances of the lore explaining that the refuse from the Citadel is jettisoned into Bilewater.
No shit they attack everyone on-sight, who the fuck is helping them.
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>>547785315
>The Citadel, you dip
Ah ye my bad. I like the idea the pinstresses are also Stilkin since they have the same long nose, hood and have mutiple ranged attacks at once. They fought aganist the Citadel and lost and then their home became the polluted hell it is today.
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>>547786948
> They fought aganist the Citadel and lost
If anything, they fought with the citadel. They were the trainers iirc. Citadel to turned on them.
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>>547784641
Probably really unpopular because him going
>fuck this shit I'm out
and retiring to sip margaritas in the next country over would ruin any real tragedy with him.
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>>547781001
>third world hours /hkg/
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>>547787809
>retiring
He is a pale being, he does not want to retire. The idea of him metamorphosing is to become a different form to better rule over people, and the next level of godhood seems something incorporeal like Radiance.
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>>547786948
>>547787320
History isn't binary.
The pinstresses can be stilkin who left their doomed homeland to train the pin.
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>>547789406
>He is a pale being, he does not want to retire
As the White Lady shows they can absolutely be traumatised into retirement.
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>>547788301
Yeah that's what I said
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>all sorts of creatures can be sentient and even deitic
>the best I can come up with for an original character is a beetle with demonic horns
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Silksong's map if designed to appease the negative reviews that say there aren't enough benches at X, Y, or Z area.
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>>547799735
LOL
>there aren't enough benches
Like. Benches were a problem in early-game, when you're learning the mechanics and failure was a twofold punishment. But once you're in late act 2, it's no longer a problem. By then, the runback is a minor annoyance. That's probably who this complaint comes from, the people that got filtered in act 1.
>semi-related screenshot of a bench I felt is unusually generous
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>>547800252
Personally I think the biggest problem with benches isn't their quantity or placement, but the fact that you can only change your crest and tools at them. The bench you posted is actually a prime example of how that's an issue. You have a dream fight a short 5 second run away, where you will respawn anyway if you die, and then you have this bench here, whose only purpose is to give players an opportunity to change their stuff for the fight. I think this system holds back the ability for players to experiment with different crests by limiting them to only these limited hard save points. This means that a player is usually faced with two choices when changing a crest, which is to charge into an unknown area with a new moveset and likely less tools at their disposal because they haven't unlocked all the slots yet, or the same as above but now they're trying to get their cocoon back and have the pressure of potentially losing all of their rosaries. You can see how when faced with these two prospects, that most players would opt to stick with something familiar. And that's why I think you see a lot of players finding one crest they like early on and sticking with that, a large amount of those being the reaper crest. There's nothing wrong with doing this, but I think the system is hampered by this limitation and there's a lot of content that a lot of people will just experience because crests as they are seem to be more of a repeat playthrough type of thing, where you start to experiment with different ones now that you're familiar with the map and how to unlock their potential with memory lockets a lot more early on. Overall I think it's just a missed opportunity.
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>>547799735
How are they going to replenish their silk Estus™ with so few benches?
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"Wait wait wait, lemme put on my anklets and flea bre-- oh never mind."
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>>547800953
If you could change even only between 2 crests on the go it would completely negate the drawbacks of most crests. Can't be arsed to deal with Witch's risky heal? Just swap to Hunter/Wanderer.

That's why redditors and people like you aren't in charge of game design and never will be.
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>>547740864
>makes the area warm.
Wouldn't that make it spoil faster?
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>>547811372
NTA but rasher is fried bacon (or w/e in-universe bug equivalent is), if you're not familiar with the word. The whole point of the quest is to deliver it while it's still hot and crispy.
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>>547811113
Tools aren't allowed anyway.
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>>547811929
Yeah I noticed it takes away accumulated silk and I didn't run any faster when I put on the anklets.
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>>547812120
If you do need any help, hitting him slows him, and if you time it right, you get a boost at the start of the race.
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>>547811113
>>547812120
Use the beast crest for the races, the horizontal pogo is excellent here.
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>>547812120
>>547812306
Also, a reminder that you can dash downwards.
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>>547812604
Don't dash downwards, Hornet will be stuck in a long landing animation. Just fall normally then dash horizontally before you hit the ground to avoid the hard fall animation.
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>>547812306
>>547812604
>hitting him slows him
That's cheating!
I'll say it's not my fault he gets hit when I clawline, though.
>dash downwards
I caught that very briefly, but it's still new tech for me, so there'll be some trial and error, I'm sure.

>>547812348
>beast crest
I'll keep it in mind for the third race, when I give it a try.

>>547812835
>Just fall normally then dash horizontally before you hit the ground to avoid the hard fall animation.
That's how I won the first two courses.
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Just got Steel Heart, last one that was left.
Slot 3 was my first playthrough, where I tried to look up things online as little as possible, 1 was speedrun into cursed ending, 4 was speed completion and 2 was steel soul. Took me 4 attempts, only savequit was at the start of Act 3, ended up only getting hit once in the first void arena.

Now I can finally stop avoiding online discussion about Silksong.

Got any cool images that were posted here or on /v/?
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>>547816063
>Got any cool images that were posted here or on /v/?
Just this.
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>>547816063
>1 quitout
so you cheated?
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>>547813047
Speaking of cheating, I got the memento by doing that trick where you wait at the starting line and let him finish the race, and when he does, you run it and somehow come out the winner.
Have they patched that out yet?
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>>547816539
Yes, no ragrets.
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>>547811190
I disagree, I believe that kind of dynamic use of crests is where they could have truly shined. It could be easily balanced by not having the game pause while you switch crests, to prevent the player from switching crests just to avoid downsides when in the middle of a fight, or at the very least having to find an opportunity to do so.
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>>547816063
Some Anon drew this long ago. I think this was during the first month. Can't remember.
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>>547816063
>Got any cool images that were posted here or on /v/?
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>>547816760
I'm sure your inner voice won't pester you for the rest of time. It will allow you peaceful sleep because in the end you know you didn't even need it so it doesn't matter that you pussied out and used save quits to heal.
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>>547817418
>not pregnant
>not wide-hipped
Men have tits, too, this is a waste of oxygen.
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>>547817842
>>not pregnant
Sorry, this is one of the pics before I met her.
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The pogo section with the big bugs at the end was a little challenging with Beast. Pro-tip: press left/right immediately after a pogo depending on the upper bug's position.
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>You go left after entering Nyleth's dream
>You go up after entering Khann's dream
>You go right after entering Karmelita's dream
>You go right after entering Green Prince's dream
>Both Karmelita and GP are alive when you enter their dreams
Interesting
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Pin badge being an act 3 item pisses me off. I want to make a combat focused Architect build and can't. Please give us something like new game + already. Also has anyone made a randomiser yet? That could be cool.
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>>547817746
>used save quits
Save quit. Singular. Because fuck everything about Act 3 start.
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>>547817418
>>547817508
That's the shit.
This is all I have, old by now, but it made me huff.
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>>547816063
>>547831131
Idk if >>547691867 was made here, but it's been making rounds on here and /v/
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>>547831714
literally me. I learned that sprinting into walls causes damage when I hit the door to the dining hall
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Does steel soul only complete in act 3, or can you cheese the achievement with Weaver Queen?
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>>547832994
There are 2 steel soul achievements, one for Weaver Queen, one for 100%.
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>>547833256
Thank.
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>>547831872
I think splattering the rasher at the finish line is just a rite of passage everyone has to go through at least once.
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>>547834172
go for 100% to get both if you want all achievs
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>>547834302
>at least once
I'm different.
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>>547834780
POSHANKA!
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>>547816063
Now it's the Silksong discussion's turn to avoid YOU. Should have beaten it sooner anon...
https://files.catbox.moe/at6rlp.png
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>>547817746
I'd done my own defrauding arc earlier. goddam, that felt good
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>>547834780
NAAAAAAOOOOOOO
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this shit is dropping to page 10 too damn fast, damn gacha generals.
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>>547844825
we are a DLC waiting room with a bunch of goofballs who are playing for the first time or grinding achievs. Its a miracle we have been able to keep a general up for a single player game this long desu
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I like to think of myself as pure of brainrot and an anticoomer

then some shit like this drops and I can feel my brain start barking like a dog
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>>547846104
I'm ngl, I'm usually against lewding characters I like
but the Hornet art has been... pleasing
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>First Sinner
holy shit!
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>>547846482
She is Pharloom's finest gift. They should count themselves lucky that she decided to stay.
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>>547846104
Just keep telling yourself that it's hilariously off-model
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Reminder Hornet is not a lesbo, and Lace is just a retarded eternal child.
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>>547855181
right. Then how come none of her mates impregnated her?
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>>547855181
Hornet is bi, and that won't stop her.
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>>547846707
I still have DS2 brainrot so I keep remembering her name as Lost Sinner.
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>>547855880
>Then how come none of her mates impregnated her?
Weaver pregnancies are hard enough that it might actually straight up be a divine curse.
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>>547855181
Sherma calls her red maiden so clearly Hornet is a virgin and her mates are like her relationship with the huntress or Styx.
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>>547861530
Sherma just doesn't know what sex is.
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>>547865043
Hornet will teach him soon enough.
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>>547859339
my hands are still shaking, took me 2 hrs
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>>547867356
Well done anon. You got to properly savour her fight.
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The other two flea games can be learned consistently, but I really fucking hate RNG Dodge.
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>>547867561
what worse was her roars giving me goosebumps
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>>547867831
Treat dodge like a pogo game and the high scores will come to you.
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>>547868098
Can you pogo in dodge?
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>>547868234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgcLFGeZoaE
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>>547868358
>Somebody willingly played flea dodge for over an hour
Wow
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>>547868098
>>547868358
For some reason I was under the impression that pogo didn't work in this game. I guess I tried it once and missed. Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
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What happens if you beat Seth's score before he gets to Fleatopia? Do they change his dialogue or just give him a higher one?
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>>547869301
No you just skip straight to getting the memento
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>>547868536
think about how many hours he spent getting to that point
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this place fucking sucks
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Got raped trying to beat silk mommy while being infected. Pogo and clawline spam seem to be the way, but I get hit by seemingly unavoidable attacks.
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>>547885986
It's a lovely bit of developer sadism. Don't look up a guide, savour that first experience.
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>wanted to replay souls games during on my steel soul
>theorycraft a build, open wiki, analyze the viability for pvp. well, I'll be miracle rogue (dex/faith) this time
>boot up ng ds3
>"damn, I didn't remember souls combat was this dull"
>close game
...Another Silksong replay
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>>547844825
There's been a thread or two that died before reaching limit.
>>547846707
Yeah, she's great.
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>>547890020
Did you get all masks/nail upgrades possible in Act 2 + double jump? It makes it easier.
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>>547855181
The reminder that saved /hkg/.
>>547855880
Because weavers can't get pregnant without a literal Divine Intervention.
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>>547909252
Hornet is only half Weaver and fertile. What are the male bugs of these lands even doing
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>>547909252
>Weavers can't get pregnant without a literal Divine Intervention.
Then why do we/the knight kill so many little weavers in deep nest?
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>>547913660
They weren't really weavers anymore.
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>>547913906
They look like baby weavers though. Like they'd grow up and look like the one adult weaver we see in the weaver den. Maybe the Pale King was just built different and him impregenating Herrah kickstarted the baby competition instinct woman have and lots of weavers got pregenant after Hornet. Immaculate conception style/ parthenogenesis so the daughters are also sisters being genetic clones of their mothers. So weavers giving birth to their own twin sister/daughter
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>>547912669
Fucked off to a better kingdom.
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Which one of you fuck knew you could upgrade the curveclaw and never told me?
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Atla upgraded Hunter which is cool and all, but I want her to upgrade Beast how can I achieve that?
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>>547920609
you can't. Only Hunter gets upgraded
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>>547921147
uuuhhhh she promised to upgrade when the nature changes...
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>>547921234
keep doing it you get upgrades through Vesticrests
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>>547920425
I told you, but you didn't listen.
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>>547920609
mods
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>>547926958
i dont understand this what are you trying to say? Is it your first run doing this? GL!
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>>547927465
I'm getting trashed by it is what i was saying
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>>547928110
>Live Groal reaction
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and just found the hidden chair after running back all the way from bell station tens of times kek
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>>547928757
if you want tips just say the word.
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>>547929023
no need as I figured out how to deal with the mobs.
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>>547928952
It happens
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>>547931486
what is this clown build anon? can you explain yourself?
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>>547931801
No
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big boy again
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now that i defrauded steelsoul 100% i should probably go defraud hollow knight 100% cause i did do 2 quitouts at Nosk of all things. Its much easier to do it in Hollow Knight though
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>>547920425
It was me.
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>Kure kure
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>>547928952
>>547931486
How is it hidden? I found it immediately.
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>>547940770
It's hidden from people who run from point a to b.
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>>547937906
When I steel soul'd Hollow Knight, I kept Nosk as the penultimate boss fight before dealing with the HK. He's just too dangerous with his leaving-the-screen-and-running-over-you action.
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Holy shit witch crest pogo sucks massive dick during Lost Lace. Haven't had a single problem with it during the whole game and suddenly it drags me into every attack hitbox of hers.
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>>547950413
yep lmao. I recently did a full witch healbomb run and the Lace fight is ridiculous i basically resorted to dash hits and regular ones you just cant pogo her.
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Wait, if you never buy Shakra's Quill, you can take Trobbio's?
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>>547952710
yep. I always grab it now that i dont need maps to navigate the game
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>>547952975
That's so cool. I'll probably do this every time now. Especially since I'm gonna fail this 5 hour run
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>>547953952
you can even be a gigachad and grab the purple quill in act 3 for super extra style points
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>Yin!
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>>547954982
Holy shit I want to try it.
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I can imagine a scenario where the memed-on hyper-capitalism of Pharloom (I personally feel it's more comparable to toll-funded public infrastructure crossed with monetary indulgences) collided with the Silk-rune constructs caused early precursors to the Weaversong to beMarketable Plushes. Then that informed GMS's dreams with a lot of similar features, thus leaving Phantom and Lace stuck with a bunch of informational tags like "expected" behavior, in-built skills, and washing instructions.
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>30 minutes to take out Lace and Grand Mother Silk

I'm getting kind of nervous because I expected to fail
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>>547961321
What the hell are you talking about
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>>547962539
i remember Lace took some time for me back then when i hadnt practiced her enough. Better lock in
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Can someone explain to me how in my 360 hours i have in Silksong i have never seen Sherma singing to Bellbeast? What the fuck i didnt even know it existed as an interaction.
>>547962539
Lock the fuck in!
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>>547962539
more than enough for two jobbers
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>>547963861
>>547963506
>>547963173
Holy hell I got her on my 2nd attempt. I've never beaten Lace 2 that fast before
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>>547963172
Fangamer's official merch now includes a Lace plush, which naturally dredged up the "Marketable Plush" meme, which I proceeded to overthink silly Tumblr art about. Including commenting on one such post that Lace, being made entirely of Silk, may already count as "a plush".
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>>547964182
lock in more. GMS can sneak up on you at 5 hp
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>>547964182
26 minutes
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>>547675750
was reading youtube comments on a steel soul video and there is actual people that try attempting this without save scumming, how do people keep their sanity holy shit.
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I DID IT! I FUCKING DID IT!

I was so bad at this game so I never thought I'd actually be able to do it. I was more trying it to see how far off I'd be
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>>547965209
good job man
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>>547965209
i always believed
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>>547931486
Where's your maggots?
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>>547965209
We knew you had it in you
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>>547965890
Anon, I ...
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>>547966264
Oh, right. Forgot that was a thing. I never use it in Bilewater. Thanks.
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>>547966367
yea i always save my wreath of purity for Sands of Karak too
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>>547965286
>>547965446
>>547965901
You guys are awesome. I actually went hitless on phase 1, realized how good I was doing, and then nearly fumbled on phase 2

I cannot fathom doing these remaining 3 challenges though
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Architect or Wanderer for Steel Soul?
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>>547965025
230 hours, and I thought it was about time. I wasn't satisfied with my earlier hollow victory
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>>547967128
I used mainly wanderer, except 3/4 bosses with Architect plasmification, including LL.
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>>547966949
>speed completion
surprisingly easy
>steelsouls
get both by doing the 100% one. Its easy if you decide to cheat and you save and quit. Very hard if you do it legit but most rewarding.
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>>547967128
on my no save quit 100% i used a mix of reaper, hunter and architect depending on the arc and situation. I would recommend architect for act 3 cause if you do in on 2 aswell shard costs go nuts
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>>547967842
the path for becoming the true Hollow Knight... i would never thread it in my sane mind!
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>>547966949
Normal Act 2 steel soul is fun. 100% steel soul is the sweat zone
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Okay bros, wish me luck
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>>547974814
Good luck!
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>>547974814
enjoy silksong on hard, bro
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>>547974814
Bellbeast -> Survive Hunters March -> get dash -> backtrack to Hunters March to aquire Mask

GL. Early Hunters March is a challenge
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>>547976651
>Early Hunters March is a challenge
I'm willing to say this filtered a lot of first-timers, never realizing that they could just not go that way.
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>>547974814
Use your red tools. Get as many upgrades to them as possible, as fast as possible.
Find the Steel Seer in Blasted Steps and complete her quest to get a steady supply of shards.
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>>547978125
on my first playthrough i went there straight from the marrow and was even autistic enough to quadruple pogo no dash no wallgrip to the top MULTIPLE times (cause of deaths) just cause i refused to give up. Loved every single second of it. I still have the pic
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>>547979181
My thumb felt like it was split in half. I remember being furiously adamant that this zone is hell manifest.
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>>547980272
those are the experiences that make this game so great. If only i could erase my memory so that i can replay it again from scratch
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This fight made me sweat a little
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Guys, I'm beginning to fear that Zoteboat isn't real...
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>>547989967
Bro where are your straight pins?
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>mfw this entire run
Holy hell Steel Soul is the most anxiety inducing thing ever. And people 100% the game like this?

>>547995296
Fuck. I had so much tunnel vision into getting to Far Fields I forgot to grab the Straight Pin
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Savage Beast Fly 2, but instead of being in lava, it's in the maggots, and it summons these.
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>>547999538
https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/536
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>>547999678
Didn't know this was a thing. I can't even kill the mosquitoes without taking damage.
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>>547999913
I haven't actually tried it myself yet, haven't felt quite that masochistic.
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Killed the Moorwing and made it to Haunted Bellhart. My nerves are made of frayed hairs but the high risk encounters still feel fun. I haven't quit out once
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>>548000997
>Haunted Bellhart
There's a hidden scene only available before you beat the boss of this area. Sit on the bench then quit out, there's a chance you see a cool scene upon loading the game back. It's not 100% though, so might need a couple quit outs.
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>>548025752
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>>548027214
>compass in Vesticrest
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Is the last mask shard on the way to one of the other Hearts?
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>>548028159
Ridiculing people for a disability, handsome?
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>>548028265
No.

Did you fight the Pinstress?
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>>548030769
Si.
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>>548030931
Did you notice she told you there's a ||gleaming secret hidden at the mountains core?||
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>>548031045
Of course.
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>>548031045
Lmao, this is not discord, the spoiler tag is [ spoiler ] + [ / spoiler], without spaces.
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>>548031045
>>548031112
Highlight the text, then hit Ctrl and S. Only works in /vg/.
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>>548031109
Then the only ones left are the Dark Hearts and Hidden Hunter wishes, unless you missed a shard in Act 2.
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>>548031208
>Dark Hearts
Did that.
>Hidden Hunter
I can piece together who is this about and I definitely have not done it. I'll head back to Bellhart.
Thanky.
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>>548031207
I know all of this.
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>>548031408
Hidden Hunter wish appears in Bellhart after you defeat Karmelita. Don't look up where you need to go exactly, it's very fun to track him, he'll set up a lot of cool traps along your way.
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>>548031452
>I know all of this.
Same, I've made this mistake, too. I think twice.

>>548031557
>Hidden Hunter wish appears in Bellhart after you defeat Karmelita.
I will not harm Karmelita, if the taking of other two hearts is less savage.
>Don't look up where you need to go
I've seen a red shell scurry to hide at the target practice room, I'm going there.
>he'll set up a lot of cool traps along your way
Spoilers ruin the fun.
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>>548032102
>I will not harm Karmelita
Alright, the wiki says simply meeting her is enough for the wish to appear. Make sure to find Gilly along the way too, she's hiding in the bushes in one of the big rooms in that section.
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>>548031557
>>548032102
Hidden Hunter appears after talking to Karmelita as well.
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.. Can I say somethin'?
This game is good.
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Why the fuck does Phantom sing so heavenly? AND WHY CAN I ONLY ACCESS IT BY NEEDOLIN FOR A FEW SECONDS
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>two percent difference between Weaver Queen ending and Snared Silk
>two percent of players got the evil ending then stopped playing the game
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>>548041741
>wtf I rushed to the end of the game and now it's over? I'm done
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>>548043183
>2 mask Seth
So how long did that last?
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>>548041741
>>548042393
Act 3 is a big difficulty spike, it's no wonder some people got filtered.
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>Hesitant to accept to accept the Bellhome
>tells Sherma that if she succeeds in the Abyss, she may go far away

I want the DLC to be Pharloom 2: Electric Juggaloo, but I wish there were some more crumbs on what the follow-up would be just so I could headcanon more shit, but I can't think of any scenario featuring Hornet, Lace and Pharloom all together and I want to see Pharloom suucceed and rebuild
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>>548044984
I'm saying that a lot of people never even made it to act 3. Either through not having done enough quests, not meeting requirements like the flea caravan moving to fleatopia or finishing Shakra's quest by not exploring enough, or just rushing straight to GMS after defeating Lace 2.
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>>548045476
My assumption is they didn't bother to open their save after finishing Act 2, not realizing it's how you access Act 3.
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>>548045945
If that were true then the percentages of Snared Silk and Weaver Queen would be the same.
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wtf, you can just flick away Karmelita's sickles and be aggro all the time? damn, I have to try this next playthrough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw4pHkHqaVc
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>>548043183
How did you get that Hornet hat?
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>>548043602
>So how long did that last?
I left.
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>>548046618
Pharloom was promised to her 3000 years ago
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>>548047273
She is kind of a nepo baby so it makes sense i suppose
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>CELLO!
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>>548050169
You still struggling? He's not that hard.
- when he's in the air and yells something get the fuck away cause an explosion is coming
- otherwise just let him attack, jump over his attack, pogo his ass, then he'll likely chill for a bit so do some regular attacks as well

He's very easy with Beast ironically, due to the horizontal pogo, just keep distance and pogo him.
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>>548050467
>still
I just started.
>He's not that hard.
He is.
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>>548050835
>He is.
I maintain he's hard.
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>>548029889
See what happens when she kills her for fun.
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>>548032102
>I will not harm Karmelita
Based. Anyway, I did the quest without killing her, so I can confirm you don't have to. Long live the queen.
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>>548039812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8SPDrjqTA
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>>548050835
>>548051228
You think he's hard now, and he is but wait 'til later when you have to "challenge" him again for his memento.
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>Karmelita is keeping the red-shells from going wild under the Haunting and maintaining the underground ecosystem
>the first seed that grew into Shellwood and the implication of killing it
Jesus christ, this is not pretty.

>>548052272
>I can confirm you don't have to
Yeah, long story short, I've got her replacement in hand.

>>548052893
He can fuckin' keep it, no sense taking this away from him AND his high scores.
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>Seth loses his memories and joins the flea caravan, seemingly as a metaphor for afterlife/rebirth
>it's because Seth Goldman was a teenager who died from cancer and his last wish was to meet Team Cherry, which was granted
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>>548053339
Fun fact: The Citadel never actually conquered Shellwood. Shellwood even got The Citadel to build them Nyleth's Shrine
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>>548054042
Well now I feel like an asshole saying Seth looks "whiteboy-coded".
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Νyleth should have had a phase 3. She deserved better than being piss easy
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>>548055639
Keep Seth in mind. Include him in when calculating Nyleth's difficulty.
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>>548055864
>throws a box of tacks on the ground
Nothing personnel, Seth.
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>>548055639
Speedrunners keep dying to Nyleth so she's plenty hard.
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>>548056291
Speedrunners need to kill her super fast so they are always aggro. A regular player can take it slow. A game shouldnt be designed around 5 hp speedrunners
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>>548063036
yea this is gonna be in the DLC for sure
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>there's needolin silk indicators at Shellwood's shrine and the Karak lord's corpse meaning they're dead
>none at Karmelita
I just needed to be sure this path is the cleanest. It's already muddy with the Green Prince's contribution, I have to convince myself he was asking to be put down since he clearly couldn't move on from the past.
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>>548065408
Hornet doesnt vibe with gays get a clue buddy. Hornet and Lace shippers will cry their eyes out when /ourgirl/ gets herself a husband
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>>548065646
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>>548065408
they should add a couple more hearts for Act 3, including the one where the boss doesn't fight back. kill them all for no reason and you'll get the joke warlord worst ending
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I have run out of savefiles and i want to start a run. HELP
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>>548066948
I can't wait for the DLCs to prove that Hornet isn't gay so all the yurifags can go fuck themselves.
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>>548069123
hornet will combine her ability to foresight with elegy of the deep to travel into the future and marry sherma
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...fuck
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>>548067880
They should add a heart where a village of bug babies are crying as Hornet burns it down and nails the pacifist boss to a burning cross
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>>548069914
why is your UI like that ? Are you playing on a steamdeck or something
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>>548069914
>2 masks
>keeps attacking
Hate to say it, but that's all on you.
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>witch charge attack works like silkstorm extension
HOW THE FUCK DID I MISS THIS. I THOUGHT IT WAS GARBAGE
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>>548069914
>fucks up the pogo
>doesn't wanna lose value on brew so keeps attacking despite having the silk to heal
Again.
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Just completed the hardest delivery while in Act 3 and first try.

The route I used is Mist > Whispering Vaults > Memorium, it's relatively safe but the BIlewater route is probably faster if you're actually speedrunning this shit. I only wanted to have these wishes register in my wish log, for "true completion" reasons.
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>>548070049
Switch

>>548070129
Yeah. That's what makes me doubly upset. >>548070843 called it right, I was planning on getting all my hits in and then healing after Last Judge burned herself out. After all of Act 1 checking my own greed, I lost focus right at the end and I'm so angry with myself
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>>548068465
If you're on pc go to the save folder and create backups of the userdata files.
>>548066948
Where's the pedophilia allegations sequel?
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>>548069914
Why not just get Wanderer and be OP? It's only like a 2 minute loss after Sister Splinter and then you can steamroll the game. Are you all following some meme YouTube 5hr run video?
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>>548071260
No, I debated grabbing Wanderer but I just feel most comfortable with Hunter's
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>>548071339
Hunter's pogo is more versatile for sure, but Wanderer is +34% attack speed with practically no downsides, it trivializes the game if you're halfway decent at it. It's like having flea brew on at all times, and then you can buff even further with actual flea brew.
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lmao this video is pure gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw7jg69ufb0
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>>548069914
You should have a 6th mask by that point, and Fractured Mask.
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>>548072813
Maybe I should look up a guide before doing this
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>>548072813
And magma bell.
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>>548069914
Brother, you were literally asking for a death wish with that loadout. I guess, Wish Granted™
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>>548073086
Didn't you do 100% before? At that point you can just open up the wiki to see where all masks/spools/whatever else you forgot are. There's 6 mask sharts in Act 1, by the way.
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>>548073310
I always forget that Magma Bell works for Last Judge, I just use it for both parts of Deep Docks and Savage Beastfly 2.
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Okay so what the fuck is Pale Oil and how does rubbing it on Hornet's needle make the blade change shape? It gets that whole middle bit on the blade.
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>>548078676
The pinmaster is just sanding down the blade, at one point hive steel (the OG material) shows up, and they talk about it for a few minutes, did you just mash through all of that.
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>>548079192
I don't mean the hive pattern I mean this middle bit on the blade.
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>>548078676
I don't think we know what it is, but we do know it's related to pale beings. Maybe it's their body fluids or droppings or something.
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>>548079871
It might not be physically related to Pale Beings. In HK you also upgraded your nail with Pale Ore, it seems that Paleness is a higher form of some kind, could be a manifestation of some primal power. Or maybe Pale Ore is just calcified White Wyrm shit.
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>just getting progressively more and more pissed off the more I play
>fights are just meat sponge faggot enemies
>being touched by erratically moving enemies is more dangerous than any actual attack
>fight lace again
>easily one of the most dogshit fight designs Ive ever seen
>boss has 3 moves
>faggot command grab combo 360 degrees jump attack
>faggot command grab combo 360 degrees rush attack on the ground
>no real difference in the half second startup between the two, 50/50 you get hit
>non stop attacking
>3rd move is random counter to punish you for trying to hit the boss in their non-stop attacks
>boss also has faggoty tracking, on top of eldenring tier 'trying to heal? me hit u'
>with 2 heart damage, rendering getting 8 masks pointless because I am effectively at the starting life total
>not even remotely interested in trying

The only boss I've enjoyed fighting in act 2 was first sinner, the phantom boss would have been enjoyable if contact damage wasn't the main threat. everything else is just a slog, bilewater did nothing but make me absolutely livid. the game desperately wants to be dark souls, and I'm not going to swap for the dumbass counter move to cheese the boss, or even attempt to bother to memorize any of the patterns. I can only imagine the game just gets worse and worse from here.
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>adamant that Weavers aren't uplifted from beasts because you see Weavers in Widow's genetic memory unlike First's genetic memory showing pharlids
>not only does the wiki say that Weavers are uplifted beasts it also stats First is dead when Hornet meets her
>it makes sense being that she is in a weaver tomb but the Citadel's text describes her as alive ("absolution denied") as opposed to text describing another dead prisoner ("absolution not granted after death")
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>>548080956
Sorry, I mixed up oil and ore. Pale Ore is confirmed related to Pale Beings.
That said, I would assume Pale Oil is too.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/6rvds8/we_are_team_cherry_the_developers_of_hollow/dl85r0a/
>It may be expanded on in future, but all we can say for now is it shares some connection with the Pale Beings.
Maybe the oil is pee, and the ore is poo.
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>>548083429
>The only boss I've enjoyed fighting in act 2 was first sinner, the phantom boss would have been enjoyable
Yeah, these are some of the 2 favs a number of people have. Like, 90% of people agree First Sinner is a good fight. The other 10% say she's too easy or need more health or something.
In Act 3 there's another person that's known for being a good fight, but she's hard.

>bilewater did nothing but make me absolutely livid.
I laughed out loud reading this. Thank you.
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Steel Soul save almost maxed out.
All 237 Hunter's Journal Entry completed.
All mementos.
All Shard Bundles/Beast Shards/Cores. Except for 3 Beast Shards, cause I killed Moorwing and Skull Tyrant in Act 1, and the Act 3 Rhinogrund didn't drop one, even though the wiki says he does.
Only missing one frayed rosary string, pretty sure I didn't break any for money early on.

Next up, all void masses destroyed and finding that one frayed string.
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>>548089417
Why keep the mementos?
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>>548089417
Still baffles and angers me that there's 19 frayed rosary strings when the max stack is 20.
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>>548089614
So you can vibe at the house without hearing the heart.
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>>548089614
I'm gonna put them in my Chrome Bellhome, just wanted this screenshot with all of them in the inventory first.
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>you see Wanderer players play the game
i bet its the same people who mock Reaperbros too
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>>548091870
Thanks for reminding me that I hadn't laughed at reaper crest today.
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>there's a weavernest in the fucking Abyss
>they became nihilists that wanted to embrace the nothingness
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>>548098184
That's a void tablet, not a weaver tablet.
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>>548098373
Team Cherry's worldbuilding is this fire??
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>>547764669
>Architect Crest seems kinda op
Architect and Shaman are the two usually agreed on best crests for just absolutely deleting a boss.
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>>548098184
Well the Smail Setter was built to function alongside The Void, it makes sense that the Weavers would research it first.
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>>548098606
I'm hung-up on Architect's pogo having a delay, is that not part of its appeal, though? Just the tools?
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>>548098746
*Snare Setter. I'm dumb

Hey wait a minute, why the shit didn't the Snails use the Snare Setter before the Weavers jumped ship from Pharloom?
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>>548099068
I’d guess they hadn’t accumulated enough soul to make it work at that point.
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>>548099068
Because it'd require them to crack the cocoon open and brawl GMS into place. Those tentacles have fuckall range and duration.
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>>548099279
>I’d guess they hadn’t accumulated enough soul to make it work at that point.
The snail that went to Bilewater had tremendous soul way back. But no telling if that was before or after the weaver exodus.
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>>548099030
>just the tools?
Tools, the special bind command which completely replenishes tools without the need of a bench (at the cost of silk and shards), the only crest that can cause a plasmium overdose, and the most powerful standard charge attack (the witch crest can have a more powerful charge attack if you keep tapping the button, but it takes a lot longer).
Worst pogo in the game.
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I use Beast only.
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>>548104267
And what do you do in vertical pogo sections?
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Just got the cursed ending. Now, how do I get rid of this? I want the wanderer crest back.
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>>548121475
You should see a doctor. I wonder if the people of Bellhart know one? Or even Creigh at the Halfway House?
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>>548117523
Not him, but the only awkward one is at the start of Shellwood.
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Fuuuuuuck, took a hiatus because work right before lost lace and collecting the last of the collectibles.

Shook the rust off now, but damn. I'm not gonna say Lost Lace is an unfair fight. seems pretty fair to me so far. I am also druk. I am finally recognizing the utility of the clawline thogh. Shit's saving my ass.

I have dedicated that I will only beat Lace honorably, utilizing only my own silk skills. No tacks, no speed boosts, or whatever. Silk for Lace. Truly a worthy foe
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>>548134618
Biggest tips for LL:
>don't fucking run, just don't move at all unless she's doing an attack, and if you need to move to e.g. avoid the homing projectiles, just walk slowly, otherwise you'll bump into her
>when she parries you, just jump and dash behind (NOT away from) her, this will avoid both of her counters
>try to pogo her as much as possible
>injector band + multi-binder + druid's eyes (upgraded, needs all 7 berries) kinda trivialize the fight as she cannot punish you healing 4 masks while double jumping off a wall, magnetite dice is great too
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>>548135869
>don't fucking run, just don't move at all unless she's doing an attack, and if you need to move to e.g. avoid the homing projectiles, just walk slowly, otherwise you'll bump into her
Only trying to distance myself for clear clawline abuse
>when she parries you, just jump and dash behind (NOT away from) her, this will avoid both of her counters
Hasn't been an issue unless I'm making a drunk blunder
>>try to pogo her as much as possible
Am doing that in between clawlines
>>injector band + multi-binder + druid's eyes (upgraded, needs all 7 berries) kinda trivialize the fight as she cannot punish you healing 4 masks while double jumping off a wall, magnetite dice is great too
Yup, already figured that intuitively.

I've made it her phase 3 so far while druk. Not sure if I'll get her tonight, but no doubt by the weekend.
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>>548135869
Forgot to mention
>the best punish windows are when she summons the void stuff, especially the goop that turns into chainsaws, you can sneak in about 6-8 hits during that one
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>>548080956
>>548079871
It could also just be bugs think "Pale Beings are awesome, and we need to market this new oil we've come up with. We need a brand, fellas."
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Can't wait for bumpfag to bump again.
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>>548155406
Any minute now.
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When Hornet gets back to her belhome after a day of running deliveries
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Killing these legends feels bad.
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>>548162810
Nyleth and Khann were already dead, and Karmelita is one stiff breeze away from death herself. Plus the Green Prince is gay.
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>>548162810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNqFA9tfKL4
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>>548162810
No cost too great.
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>>548163847
...Better a child spun mad... than none...
...Better a child spun frail... than none...
...Better a child spun pure... than them...
...One to wish our waking...
...From our Silk... A child born loyal...
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>>548159676
Grilling Lace into smores
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Is this the only plausible explanation for how Lace was able to project herself while trapped deep inside the void lake?
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>>548163530
She gets to die of natural causes.
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>>548155406
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>realizing my OC doesn't have to be just some random bug
>they could be a weaver
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>>548166878
You could also template off the Weavers situation for your own whacky Soul bullshit.
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>>548166181
Need the Herrah mukbang
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>>548170689
>Weavers situation
Them scattering from Pharloom? That's the idea. She gets lost in the wastes and eventually becomes infected by a parasitic fungus. Panicking to purge it, her autoimmune system simply dominates it and incorporates it into her biology, radically altering her.
>whacky Soul bullshit
I didn't play the first game. Or are you referring to Miyazaki's masterpieces?
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>>548173997
>I didn't play the first game
Why the fuck not? It's great.
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>>548174621
Not a metroidvania buff, tiny baby protagonist doesn't appeal to me.
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>>548174809
I hate to break it to you but Hornet is also a tiny baby.
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>>548175784
Hornet is tall fem, that was the major selling point of Silksong for me.
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>>548175978
>tall
She's confused for a child by several characters
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>>548176058
I am a mere human, we are not gifted with prescience. She's taller than the baby from the first game, and is feminine-coded. Sale.
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>>548176363
>feminine-coded
Are you a tranny or something? Why tf does that matter?
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>>548173997
>Them scattering from Pharloom?
No, the part before that where a Higher Being made pseudo-demigods instead of stopping at mere personhood.

>She gets lost in the wastes and eventually becomes infected by a parasitic fungus. Panicking to purge it, her autoimmune system simply dominates it and incorporates it into her biology, radically altering her.
On the one hand this is almost exactly what happens with the Witch Crest, on the other it invites awkward questions about how far a "normal" Weaver can go with it that "should" be pushed to apparent limits somewhere in the scrabbling for a long-term answer to Great Mother Silk making this extent create a conspicuous absence.

>I didn't play the first game. Or are you referring to Miyazaki's masterpieces?
Actually referring to various fluff-text indicating Silk is a Soul derivative. That is, coming up with your own thing like it or the Pale King's apparent affinity for a solid metallic state (e.g. Pale Nails silk skill, Pure Vessel fight in Godhome). Probably more a subject for original locales than isolated OCs, but it's apparently a "thing" that Pale Beings can get Soul to "settle" into a differentiated substance.
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>>548177839
>No, the part before that where a Higher Being made pseudo-demigods
Still not sure what you mean. But in relation to that point, I did want to take a gander at the hunter's journal and possibly select a beast that isn't a pharlid for my OC.
>On the one hand this is almost exactly what happens with the Witch Crest
It's just a common feature of the animal kingdom. Like the parasite that infects a slug, hijacks its nervous system so it's compelled to perch in a visible location to be eaten by a bird, gestates in the bird's guts, the bird's poop lands with the parasite's eggs, and a slug shows up to eat the poop.
>on the other it invites awkward questions
Either I'm having a stroke or is English a second language for you? Are you saying the weaver I'm conjuring might have been something considered in experiments toward Silk's suppression/death? I did mention the parasitic fungus isn't from Pharloom.
>coming up with your own thing like it or the Pale King's
Took me a while to realize you're referring to silk, not Silk.
I only just imagined this character, for the most part, gotta let it simmer.
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>beat Lace 2nd time
does the area past her go right into act III or will I still have time to explore around?
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>>548183313
The next area, above, is the act 2 boss.
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It's been a nice run guys but we agreed a week ago to let this be the last one. I'll see you all when the DLC hits.
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Sharama!
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>>548183704
I didn't agree, so see you in the next one!
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>>548183975
TROOOOBIOOOOOOO haha
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>>548180014
>Still not sure what you mean.
As in a case like Great Mother Silk imparting Silk upon Weavers, but with a different "style" of Pale Being imparting its own "style" of Soul usage.

>It's just a common feature of the animal kingdom.
Such integration is most definitely not an out-of-the-blue "it just happens" in IRL anatomy, what you reference is parasites hammering specific systems in specific ways WITHOUT immunological interference.

>Are you saying the weaver I'm conjuring might have been something considered in experiments toward Silk's suppression/death?
I'd assumed that given how similar it sounds to what happened with the Witch Crest it had to do with Binding (because in addition to healing it's also how quite a few of Hornet's abilities are acquired), and that being the cause going THAT far out with a "normal" Weaver as opposed to the slightly-shapeshifting-capable half-Wyrm would entail really out-there Binds as a significant direction for the Weavenests to look into.

>Took me a while to realize you're referring to silk, not Silk.
I capitalize "Silk" in this case to distinguish from ordinary spider-webs like Deepnest is covered in, or sundry other "mere" fibers referred to as such in entomology.
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Seems like Silk chose a creature that was lethal but also couldn't grow any bigger into a different thing.

>>548185015
>You could also template off the Weavers situation for your own whacky Soul bullshit.
I think I get you now? Yeah! I think I get you now. I'm just gonna stick with weaver, though, I don't know if I wanna commit to fleshing out an entire ecosystem.
>Such integration is most definitely not an out-of-the-blue "it just happens" in IRL anatomy
Of course not? It's just inspired by it.
>given how similar it sounds to what happened with the Witch Crest it had to do with Binding
Okay I definitely understand these words. Not what I meant, but I accept that the words I used definitely sounded like this OC Bound the fungus. But I would think the way a weaver/Hornet Binds is completely dominating the foreign power like an incorporeal tool. The OC's parasitic fungus makes biological changes to her and warps her physiology, so kinda like Binding? Thinking about how to better word it, it kinda sounds like I'm describing how Hornet Binds Silk. Her little body can't simply pack that primordial power in a pocket, she has to make changes to accommodate assimilating a god. But that's not quite what I want for my OC, it's suppose to be like how what's left of the twisted bud is its power and "shell" (BG3 tadpoles?).
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>>548187531
Seeing people use Clawline like this makes me feel like a neanderthal.
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>>548187531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaPFLgTQQw
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>>548188648
Combined with i-frame abuse, you can do a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjRACL4Ezs
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>>548187401
>chose a creature that was lethal but also couldn't grow any bigger into a different thing
I'm fuckin' stupid, it literally says it's an arachnid.
Uplifting a kilik doesn't seem to hot anyway, it literally has no claws, just a defensive shell.
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>>548188782
Are you using the thief tool, too?
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>>548188782
TAS silksong is just ridiculous
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>>548189880
Not me. Some anon posted it some time ago and I saved the vid. I think he got it from youtube maybe.
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This thread is really hanging on...
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>>548196060
It's time to shelve the thread and wait for the *confirmed Steel Assassin dlc
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>>548196060
Gachas must be having a slow one if we're still here.

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