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>>547311919but enough about floppa sora
>khalipeyou didn't beat the early game
guild war is starting I don't have time........
What animal is kalipe? Is this going to end up like shun in BA where we don't find out officially and the only answers are memes like panda or white tiger?
>>547312151bear
Chizuru activates my almonds
Luke is cooler than Renoa tbqhfamily
I will never use a male character
>>547312374I wish I could sell them for units / credits
>>547311901Gratz on the win. Better than seeing veronica in every team.
>>547311919I'm already at the >log in>do ark city stuff>do some simulations for whatever resource I feel like stocking up on>log outmainly because I'm just saving up rolls for future characters and while I could be doing chaos runs for better save data, I'm ok with what I have for now.
>>547312225I genuinely think prostitutes like her are sexy.
>>547312151BearTiger hag when
>>547312481I think I got burned out by the season forcing you to run the same chaos over and over instead of 6 differents planets
>>547312481Same, except I'm having trouble even wanting to cap out the weekly 8k points. I'm gonna brick myself. The reason I quit Nikke is because it demanded literally an hour worth of chores every day, and 5 Chaos per week plus farming stages that you can't skip is basically 1 hour per day mandatory.
>feel like doing a 10 pull to maybe build pity >get thisIm bricked forever, goodbye
>>547312130do royal grubbas truly still exist in 2025
>>547312767it's tough getting that 69/70
>build pity
>>547312681You naturally accumulate points trying to grind out saves for the bosses and soon the leaderboard mode. Don't think about it too hard.
>>547312767retard
>>547312838>>547312858Im so fucking bored alright
arent they going to buff yuki
oh i'm pitying him
I am looking for any teams that work without Mika or Veronica for Dimensional Twilight
>>547312890the devs have been real silent since I've sent ten thousand hateful support messages
>>547312908Nia Cassius with AFK Beryl is a no-brainer for me
I should pick Rin right?
>>547312767>Not even an offbanner for guaranteeOof
Ill never understand the concept of "building pity" mother fucker just save enough rolls to hit pity why the fuc are you using rolls to "build" it?
Surely you guys have other gacha to grind no?
>>547312991you really shouldn't
>>547312767The willpower you need to not do this
>>547313002sir we're strategy gamers with tiny phone storage
>>547313002I'm grinding bots in bf6
>>547312994usually its to get 4* but Nia's egos are not even that good and no one cares about >Lucas
>>547312991Thanks for keeping the servers up
>>547312481Same for me. I have some stuff I need to do like get my last 2 blue pot levels for cube, but it's not urgent and I have other stuff to do in other games.
>>547312992Worst part is I "won" my last 3 50/50 so I actually got 5 Yuki back to back
>Why are forbidden cards so rare when it's suppose to be the gimmick for the event.The real question is why they all sucks balls so much outside of the one that becomes a free multi strike attack if you draw 9 cards
>>547312991>only missing 1 characterFuck you
>>547313002CZN unironically ruined gacha games for me, I've uninstalled 80% of the ones I used to play. I mostly do shooter games anyway, Smilegate saved me from falling down the gacha rabbit hole.
>new aplogy droppedhttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/kr/view/11317803Where's the gibe
>Not Raiden Mei>followed by hag AdelheidPoorbros how do I cope?
>>547313002no, i've just played this every day for a month but now that's probably over and i feel lost in life once more
Random copy or Yuki unique weapon?
>>547313217All gacha turn into bonsaige after a while. While it would be great to be swimming in resources so we could have fun building up tons of characters that's just not how a live service can function. They all follow the marathon not race approach otherwise people would experience everything in the game and just move on.
>>547313207the Try to Commit Less Hate Crimes Than MTG Challenge
>>547313169I think they're supposed to be niche or just solid cards if you have the right characters. this way you don't feel obligated to get them.Getting the upgrade that causes you to heal 40% and lower stress every time you draw seems decent on some characters, especially if it combos with Tressa's dagger generation on heal.
>>547313207>apologized>legal corpo buzzwords while promising nothingThey have to buff Yuki before they're forgiven
>>547313119
>>547313297If your Yuki already has at least 1 good copy on deck then the weapon is probably better, no?
>>547313297What's your Subdue situation?
>>547313297Is that unique weapon better or worse than the 50% one? There's a legendary version that gives 50% damage to the cards you draw while that one gives 35% damage when you draw a card. I've been stuck with this question with Mei lin too.
>>547313387did you know? the reason games like shadowverse or uma or other cyjew games make you spend your paid gems first is because people wanted to brag about being f2poor
>>547313297If you're feeling lucky with your Divine epi'd Subdue then sure, pick the gamba dupe
>>547313387>Use up all paid crystals>Then trickle in the free ones
When are they adding save data points calculator into the gameThis is such a no brainer move
Guess I'm going back to ZZZ while waiting for stamina.Transformable combatant when?
>>547313328never been a big gacha person, my first was gbf a decade ago, you could always have near-infinite stamina in that game and there was always something more to grind for dozens of hours, i've never been super wrapped up in gacha news but afaik it was a major player for years, if it isn't a sustainable model now it was at one point
>>547312991>Veronica at obtained 3Bro wonnered the real roguelite
>>547313207>polshitKek why are there so many drama over in korea
>>547313612>swords swords swordsI see ZZZ fell victim as well.
>>547311404Always vulture ejection
>>547313612>Ya Chungusshe ain't coming til like, next yeartoo early to come back bwo
>>547313612Why does this brunette turn into Wisadel?
>>547312994>Ill never understand the concept of "building pity"It makes sense in some games. For example, Revived Witch had a system where the first 10 pull you do on each banner is 50% off, so imagine spending 5 gems worth to get a 10 pull, and you get this every single new banner, and each different "type" of banner has its own separate pity that carries forward. So in cases like that, it only makes sense to do the discounted 10 pull every time the banner refreshes.
>>547313612god Season 2 designs are all so fucking dogshit man
>>547313002I'm about to boot zzz and blue archive
>the perfect mika deck doesnt exist>
>>547313002CZN demands to be the only game that you play.
>>547313510
>>547313743Silver hair supremacy
>>547313770I thought you guys wanted to KEEP that thing for constant AP recovery?
>>547313612I shadn't be back to zoozoozooIt has exhausted my good will
>>547313002I only play these
>>547312991Nah, get Veronica's e3.
>>547313626Seems like an outlier, though most of my games didn't have it so could be that. Or they did have lots of stamina there wasn't much a purpose to it anyway, like in FEH.
>>547313862not if you're clearing shit in 1-2 turns
>>547313169They don't? The 0 cost that gives 1AP and 1Draw on draw is very good with Nia or Precision Aim. The lead draw 1 play 2 is good with the item that autoplays lead. The perma cost reduction is good for characters like Haru where a cost reduction on a specific card for the entire fight is very useful. The hit and +1 hit per 4 cards and draw per hit is very strong generally.The only one that really sucks is the heal, mainly because it doesn't trigger tressa daggers, and otherwise it's not a crazy level of healing.
>>547313891>>>>>>>>>>>>>GFL2 in the big '25
>>547313862If you have enough draw power to kill in 1-2 turns, then all you need is AP, and you don't want it multiple times.
>>547313886Didn't they plan to put a lot of QoL next patch?
>>547313759Chinks are always gonna include the most chink shit ever even if they bait you with some kind of anime-urban-hip-hop aesthetic first
>>547313207What was it this time?
>>547313463The 50% one is additive.
>girls frontline line 2>>547313891How have you not gotten tired of shitsmoke yet
>>547313002and they all have ongoing events
>>547313991its so funny how the devs had to beg and reassure people on stream that the aesthetic of season 1 is coming back once season 2 ends
>>547313759Yuzuha though
>>547313770>exhaust epiphany>only one dupe of source of waterIt's a brick I'm afraid.
>>547313891Based exilium enjoyer, we eating good bro
>>547313612ZZZ is really never going to get good designs ever again, is it?
>>547314203a card is not worth 1 ap
>>547314203The real brick is that he doesn't have draw divine epiphany on those cards.
>>547314147They added qol that auto everything, it's comfy bonsaige
>>547313002And I have forgotten to log in to them for 2 days now because I kept trying to find Mei Lin's elusive 1pp card.
>>547314206didn't this doll release like a month or two ago in global
>>547313989yea but for hoyoslop once I'm out I'm out for good. Their gacha model doesn't play nice for people who don't play regularly
>>547314175Hahaha I can't believe they actually do that, I don't engage with the community at all
>>547313612just play DNA bwo you can grind all day
>>547314270>menu simulator It's shit I'm afraid.
>next character also looks like a main DPS
>>547313612left>fluffy and cuteright>ugly wisadel larperTo think I used to love zzz
Good lord
>>547313612I only want a transformable character if its a mecha or a tokusatsu hero.
>>547314465pfffffffffft
>>547314270Shitsmoke triggered my autism the wrong way because I wanted to get the highest scores but it requires having this, that and those dolls that are ALL LIMITED on top of being gated by cores. I washed out by the time Springfield dropped and I saw that I wasn't killing the boss even with a borrowed v6 klunker.
>>547314465BATTOU
>>547314312Her banner is up right now, same with this doll
why would anyone use rin when chizu is next??
>>547314516did you know? we're gonna get shitsmoke as the endgame for this game too
>>547314579>chizuru releases and is worse than Rin
>>547314579What even is Chizuru's kit?I haven't seen it
>>547314613nah I predict chorizo will be insanely good but only at e6, like klunkers
>>547314579I'm thinking and hope and wishing and praying that Chizuru is some sort of support, whether that's Vanguard or otherwise. She does a shield animation in the story. That doesn't really mean anything because Yuki also does a shield animation in the story, but still.
This a decent Aoe Yuki build?
>>547314310ANSWER THE PHONE SENSEI
>>547314206
Beryl will be the first combatant that will get replaced by a 5*
>>547314509Break bars have always been tied to cost, wdym>>547314585Not really, you can run the leaderboard mode one time and if you get a good score then you're free for the rest of the season. Unlike shitsmoke where you play everyday praying for modifiers that suit whatever team you have.
>>547314579I love swords so I will run Rin, Yuki and Chizuru and none of you can stop me.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
Can someone post their Tressa build? I can do up to tier 11.
>another run ended by the dog master enemy in the rare normal encounter nodethere's got to be some gimmick here I'm missing.
>>547314730I stared playing again just to save for her, too bad I actually have to drop money to get that outfit
>>547314761Cope yukikeks
So their content plan is making grind so fucking horrible that you have to keep trying for 2 monthsPicrel is tier 14 btw
>>547314715>he removed the 2 cost nuke instead of shieldWhy, it could've been your perfect deck
>>547314818fuck you hoyoslop
>>547314912>So their content plan is making grind so fucking horrible that you have to keep trying for 2 monthsUnironically, yes. Even if you finish the grind you still need to do multiple weekly Chaos runs for points. I really don't see how anyone could possibly be a long term player of this game if this continues to be the event structure (it will be)
>>547314989is flat attack better than %attack?
>>547315000>you still need to do multiple weekly Chaos runs for pointsBut you already get points while grinding for save data?
>>547314714I'm guessing that she's been reworked to vanguard for a few reasons:-3 strikers in a row would be stupid-3 void psionics would be stupid-she has a card art that's clearly a shieldThey might just go with a 3rd striker though which would be dumb as fuck but they don't have the best record for original releases so far, just responsiveness to feedback.
>>547315047yea but this fraggy cant roll it
>>547314916I did get rid of the shield card, it came back.
>>547315084Please greentext entire sentences, you stupid fucking ESL retard. You wouldn't be able to be shitposting right now if you had greentexted the entire sentence.
>>547315000>you still need to do multiple weekly Chaos runs for pointsI don't have a massive issue with people needing to play the game, but I do see the point that some people want to just play super casually and do a chaos every so often. They should probably let you spend your weekly chaos pass things for like the equivalent of like a T6 chaos clear if you really don't have the time.
isnt this broken?
>Bring Nia to chaos>Her healing is too low for high level, so Mika needs to dogwalk her>She can't damage, so early game is a slog>Literally useless until she gets a few Epiphanies>Many of her Epiphanies are straight hard brickDid they test her at all?
>>547315350No
>>547315350no, because % based bonuses only apply to the multiplier of the card
>>547315398She's not great in chaos, but has a very high top end in savedata
oh yeah, oohhhh yeah, we're going home.
>>547315194Alright you got me but you can still do VIII for free with your strongest units though and it takes like 40 minutes per run. I can see people being miffed about it but personally I see nothing wrong with it, though if they up the point gain so you can get the full 8k weekly points by doing one VIII run I wouldn't complain.Now that I think about it, it's actually a pretty good suggestion, I'll submit a ticket about it.
>>547315000They've already made changes like a couple days after it launched, they're willing to make changes. We just unfortunately need to use the stove forums because they're too afraid to send out a survey.
I don't understand gear bag. How does the combo text work?
>>547315579it activates for free automatically upon playing a skill or attack card
>>547315579combo is 'activates when you use another character's card'different from something like heaven/celestial which activates whenever anyone uses a 2-cost.
>3 event areas in a row>none of them are tunnel??????????
die you sob
>>547315619Oh wow. I assume it ticks down initiative on monsters though? Small downside.>>547315708It confused me because that's not how Haru's combo Anchor Shot works.
is right the only good one
>>547315579Let's say your time is Mika Khalipe Beryl, and you put gear bag on Mika, when gear bag on your hard and you use a Khalipe or Beryl card, gear back just plays itself with no cost, for free
>>547315787they're all shit
>>547315708Combo is actually just "extra effect after you use some other card". The specific combo requirements can differ from card to card. Gear bag is activate on using another combatant card, Mei Lin combos are buff if the previous card used was passion.
Which set is better for Tressa, 4-2 or 2-2-2?
>>547315802Jesus Christ, I haven't slept in a day, I typed this post like shit
>>547315936It's team to go to bed
>>547315787They're all bad but I'd go with middle for that 2 morale.
>>547315936>>547315991Both of you need sleep
>>547315841They should make it separate keywords the way Celestial is, then. Especially since Mei Lin and Haru have the same combo type.
Is it worth farming the passion set for mei?
Neutral card make no sense, it steal your character card epiphany, pretty much never give you any real reason to pick them, unless it's super good and you get the epi you want early
>>547316247No, she's better with 222
>>547316065why are there blood on the spoon
>>547313002I go back to get my ass kicked in slay the spire.(by the way, since we already have Gremlin Nob and Sentries, CZN should add Lagavulin to their game too, to complete the reference.)
>>547316247Nah, if they rework it to be "skill cards" instead then it'd actually be something worth a shit.
>>547316247Passion set isn't that great on Mei because she uses a lot of attacks. It's for Selena/Veronica (balistas don't reduce stack count). Mei wants Attack/Critdamage and Seth or Agony (only if you have a reliable agony source).
>log in>run simulation for 10 mins>claim quests>logoutthere goes the honeymoon period
>>547316358For you, I still have characters to build.
>>547316267neutral cards are always meta on every characterthey give +AP on AP hungry unitsthey give weakness attack enabling the most busted units to excel even in unfavored matchupsthey give fixed damage and pierce to units that would otherwise get countered by fortify or shields
>>547316313That'd be so cool
>>547314736Fine for me. She does her job with no potentials or egos anyway.
Escaping early doesn't affect save data right?
>>547316346>>547316335>>547316285Ohh I didnt read Seth's That makes sense. Thanks.
>play zzz >Immersive story telling mode is on >can't do shit FUUUUUUUUUCK
>>547316358I'm really looking forward to the leaderboard mode to mess around with minmaxing. If you can clear 9/9 crab pretty easily there's nothing to really push for atm. Hopefully they spice things up with the chaos too to get variety from the other 5, I think a lot of people have given feedback about that.
>>547316741wrong thread
>>547316741Hoyotranny...
>>547316741>Can literally leave whenever you want>Can't do shit
>>547316392with what resources? Are you joking?
>>547316794Well there is an event achievement:Defeat ??? On the lowest floor of lab 0.Kinda implies theres gonna be a 3rd floor or secret superboss to beat in the future.
>>547316860yes you can always kill yourself irl too but that doesn't mean you have free will
Serithea is the best battle pass agent right?
>>547316924What kind of argument is that>You are right but, kill yourself
The game become significantly less fun when the goal transition from "finish the run with the hand you are dealt" to "pray for perfect RNG so you don't have to spend more time farming this bullshit".
>>547316741Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the normalfag club is two threads down
>>547316912I just get them built enough to do chaos runs, minimal investment.
>>547316989Looks-wise, yes.
>>547316989For luke or lucas sure. Renoa eh sure if you can consistently raise it to 5stacks.
>>547316313post deck
Is it really that easy to abuse beryl? just get a good run in chaos and it's done??
>>547316920I don't think that's going to be in chaos. I'm guessing that's going to be Asuna as the 2nd Great Rift boss.
>>547317128You just need this
>>547317128Just get opening found upgrade. Copy it as many times as able. Buy hidden bullets til save data cap. Converting basics to cut them all to fit more hiddens for a giga save.
>>547317110Mechanically the 5* is so strong that if you really want to play Luke you should just be getting her from the shop with the dupe currency. Nyx is also incredibly good and hard to pass up.
Thought about the game now that you are level 50, cashless, stamina-less and good deck-less
>>547316741>Immersive story telling modeWhat the fuck is this?
>>547317117>pick carnage for early damage>upgrade bash to make it easier to land carnage on Vul'd enemy>pick drop kick because of upgraded Bash>mirror the dropkick because of upgraded Bash - maybe I could make a dropkick infinite?>Lagavulin rape me>>547317002True. Playing chaos should feels rewarding, but instead we have to do it as a chore to get a good save data.
>>547317263Too much grind, too much RNG, though the Season is the main culprit. They made it bad on purpose for some reason. Too easy to burn out, can't truly play multiple team comps because everything costs weeks worth of stamina.
I thought they said the dimensional hole debuffs weren't supposed to follow you out of them once you complete them? I'm still getting the penalties.
There's zero point in doing a 10+ difficulty lab without the damage or morale on draw destinies, the wolf is simply impossible without it
>>547317340The most fucked up way to make a gacha game feel like a single player game
>>547317381you dont play slay the spire to "get good save data"why would the existence of save data (which is unusable for chaos anyways) be a detriment?
>Get wrong epiphany>Reset>Get correct epiphany but no copies>Rewind>Get correct epiphany but wrong epiphany on second core card>ResetI'M GONNA GO MAD
So I should use this event to turn Mei's shield into the mutant sample, right? Since it gets removed for free? Or should I just remove it manually? I heard the first removal is "free" save data wise, so it's better spent on characters who want to remove multiple basics?
>>547317340It basically puts you in an alternative environment where the characters that are involved in a quest will only show up there. Genshin for example, if a character is say fucking around in sumeru doing a quest you would have to do that quest first before you could do the one you're trying to do. With immersive on, they won't be busy.
>>547317519>metatroon team
>>547317381Have you tried... Does more damage?
>>547317519Yes. It will be 0 instead of 0+20.
>>547317263I spent 20 hours playing this last week and I think I actually fucking hate this game's design. Imagine playing StS and is locked into one build, or Balatro but you can only get a certain type of joker every run. Epiphany system sounds good on paper, but it's actually just frustrating to work with, and provide miniscule amount of variety. >Dude if you want variety just build more charactersThe game actively discourage this with how contents and resources are structured
>>547317476Same, this game is too time consuming If you don't play any other gachas or normal videogames it's fine tho
>>547317476>playing a dps that needs multiple epiphaniesJust play beryl or tressa bro
>>547317263>good deck-lessDon't lump me in with you shitters, decks are only a matter of time. I don't need to burn myself out farming it now, though I am broke and without stamina.
>>547317454>you dont play slay the spire to "get good save data"TrueWhen are they going to give us daily run from StS with a leaderboard? It would be so easy to set up just to give people something to mess with for fun. Can just do a random chaos with a random team with preset levels up upgrades/difficulties and random zero system mods.
>>547317519Use it on veronica
>>547317621I don't see Berly or Tressa anywhere there.
>>547317679Unfortunately it's a problem only time will solve. Naturally with the current game systems, or with a massive overhaul that probably won't happen anytime soon.
>>547317476>Reset >RewindKino... Just like the scraped story.
Remember to take care of your stress and take a break, Captain. You don't want to get asswiped, don't you?
>>547317476You can rewind copy events?
>>547317940No
Wouldn't it be cool if you had a "giga rewind" ability where it takes you back to the nearest checkpoint?
>>547317940Just a reference to the songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzwLzRG6Tw
>>547318042it's the only way to save the game and fix the grinding, add 50 more rewind skills
>>547318042Sure, make it cost 10 sands of time
>>547317679>The game actively discourage this with how contents and resources are structuredMost of the game's problems would be solved if:>un-nerf the event Chaos epiphany and copy rates>lower the material and unit cost to level LITERALLY EVERYTHING by half>add sweep function to daily stamina grind stages>add ability to skip epiphanies as well as the ability to use hourglasses to reroll epiphanies>un-nerf Yuki, remove the director who keeps doing this shit from his position>remove all traces of Gayshit from this game's systems and revert everything to the pre-release versions before everything got homoslop'd
>>547318084I think just adding epiphany and copy reroll for sands/credits would go super far to cutting down on grinding, alongside 2/3x speed combat animations and combat cutscene skip and ? event dialog skip.
>>547318042heh imagine if they sold you extra rewinds
>>547318084>>547318109>Rewrote the story>Captain now gains more and more rewind ability type as the story progressesKino
We used to be happy about le LougeRite...
>>547312550I'm on the same boat. They should've integrated it to zero system
>>547314579I already have Stress's, Renoa, and RinI don't know if I'll roll for a fourth Void DPS
>>547318109i just spend 14 sands trying to roll 12 on dice and still failed.
>>547318216no we weren;tsince the popularitzation of roguelites there has been an endless barrage of complaints about how it's not roguelike, roguelite, or has anything to do with rogue by boomers
>>547318352That's xcom
>>547317454It is about how the whole system is designed.1. chaos run is easy if you just want to win it at all cost. modifiers that make it hard isn't standardized, making it very hard for players to compare their achievements or discuss on how to win a run.2. not enough variety in chaos run. you either get good epiphany or you're dead (assumming you're playing on the hardest possible difficulty). there's so little you can do to change the outcome. this is not the case in a game like in Slay the spire though, most the shitty cards have working synergies that you can pick from the card pool to win a run. you're encourage to stay alive and keep going. This is not the case in czn.the dev is competent enough in making card games, they sure can do better if they really want chaos run to be better, but they have to balance or built around save data environment that they created.
>>547318193Just make it part of the BP or the monthly crystal
>>547318425>make the bp worseno thanks
>>547318424You can get screwed in STS but it doesn't make as much of an impression because there's nothing at stake
Now that the honeymoon phase is over, I can confidently say that Morimen is better than this piece of crap. If you don't want gacha then you should try Chrono Ark. Don't like anime characters then StS is better. CZN is the lowest of the low.
>>547318640I already played and finished both though...
>>547318607You die and you lose the run. That's the entire stake of every game. The stress system and save data mechanic are bullshits to ruin your run not from your own mistake but from a rigged system designed to make you play again and waste your time.
>>547318424Pretty much this. At least make an ascension mode so I can stress test my team>>547318607There's also nothing at stake here in CZN
>>547318640morimens is the equivalent of the digimon TCG when compared to shadowverse worlds beyondit's an infinitely better game (the digitimon tcg) in terms of gameplay...and that's itand there's a reason why people prefer wb to the digimon tch
>>547318339Just add it with the dimensional tunnel.Add a second tunnel in exterior/interior (and have it so if you do the first one it puts you on a path that can connect to the second one).The new tunnel gives you an option of 3 different chaos or skip, but if you go in it gives you some rare events/elites from that chaos, and changes the boss to an enhanced version of the boss from that chaos.
>>547317623If the game give it to me then ofc I would.the problem was, it didn't.
>>547318640>Moritroon has to post somewhere other than their dead thread for a dead gameKek
>>547318730>At least make an ascension mode so I can stress test my teamYou can push zero system infinitely can't you? I still have a run at 110. granted you have to restart from 76 if you lose.
>>547318778>last post 7min ago>the one before 30min>the one before that one 2h agowhat went wrong?
How are the divine epiphanies effects determined?
>complaining about chaos run being unfunWho are these faggotsDo you run the same team every time or what. Just quit if it's not fun retard
>>547318920t. filtered by secureboot
>>547318884>Do you run the same team every time or what.Pretty much everyone does. This game heavily disincentivizes going wide. That's part of the issue.
>>547318884It's not really "unfun", it's more that I've done the same chaos with the same events and same enemies and same bosses like 20x in a row and I'd like to mix it up but the restricted season savedata and season currency really disincentivizes that.
le hypno smut has arrived
>Want to try a new character>Dont have them leveled>Lower the difficulty>Dont care about save dataYeah im gaming
>>547319057>>547318998you know you can do chaos difficulty 1-5 right?
>>547318998>This game heavily disincentivizes going wideWell you do want at least 6 characters for the upcoming leaderboard boss, so you can do some variety there at least.
>>547318920Anon I literally see it
Advertiser-dono get down!
>>547319091lol
>if I ignore the problem it will no longer exist
>>547314465Good lord indeed, those are some huge honkers
>>547319154and what are you gonna do about the problem?you are a retarded westerneryour only solution to everything is "just stop buying the product"you never achieve any protest against companies because others don't refuse to buy the productlearn from how the gooks handled the imaginary owen ntr shit
>>547319094What if it ask you to make the decks from the event chaos for all 6 characters?
The least fun thing going at the moment in the game is being forced to run lab 0 4-5 times a week and your character damage basically depending on how many memory fragments with attack%/Crit Rate/element damage you find
>>547319241Seeing other people post their memory fragments here is really discouraging. I hate Gayshit so fucking much it's unreal.
how do I make my veronica do 2k crits?? my vero is only doing 500 crit damage do I need her partner?
>>547316247No, only for Veronica.
>>547319330Grinding deck is 10 times worse than artifact thoughover
>>547317184Is this really better than +2 hits and retain steroids from orlea?
>>547319241Bro just do diff 1 Lab if you don't need a new deck. All of them gives 2k weekly progress on clear.
>>547319336You need to with the memory fragment lottery multiple times simultaneously on the same piece, then you need to do that 6 times for her, and then you need to farm save data until you have good equipment while also having a good deck. And max out her Unique potential and Crit Damage potential and her last Ballisa shot potential at least.
>>547318967Imagine wanting to turn PC platform into same shit as android, iphone and consoles
>>547318846nta, but eventually you're going to die because of bad epiphany roll. climbing zero system is more of a dice roll and stats check rather than how to pilot/navigate the run, so most people don't see value in doing or even watching it.It all boiled down to how bland a chaos run is. there isn't really enough choice/variety in the chaos run.I think they should make a special chaos that isn't reward you with a save data (sounds crazy, I know). Put a lot of good shit in it, like,>a card reward for literally every single fight>bigger card pools>epiphany reroll>put a divine epiphany on a card that already has epiphany>3rd layer>a really strong boss at the endYou know, actual roguelike deck builder run. Arknight did it too and players love it despite the game isn't really built for it.
>>547319472let me guessyou play on the STOVE PC client
>>547319432Not at all. Grinding a deck at least feels like you're doing something. Grinding artifacts is just blowing all of your stamina from now until EoS, hoping that the stars align.
>afk>come back to my PC>Stove: client is unstableFUCK OFF
>>547319458Are you sure? Pretty sure difficulties lower than 5-6 don't give the full 2000 * runAlso why would I make the run even more boring?
>>547319593It's literally the same thing except for deck RNG could fuck over you after you are 20 minutes deep into a single run
>>547319706You get less event currency tooActually I think another issue at the moment is that it feels worthless to gain event currency because ooooooohhhh more items are going to unlock in a week and they might actually be more important than the cosmetic that animate cards!
>>547319717It still feels way different and less hopeless than just spending your stamina hoping to get lucky (you will never get lucky)
>>547319336Critdmg extra dmg crit chance. Rei buff 1 or less
Can I keep a vanguard at 40/40 for rank 5/6 chaos as long as my damage dealer is within the correct level range for that?I want to try out some double vanguard tank teams with Amir but I don't know if I have enough to splurge
>>547319237Yes that's how it works?>>547319495True, I think this would be less of a problem if you could restart at a higher level. Being sent back to 76 is pretty bad.As for some sort of challenge run, I think having a daily run like in StS would be good. You can just have random chaos/difficulty/team/upgrade levels/memory fragments etc set each day for the run, same for all players, and throw a leaderboard in like StS. Some days maybe it's super hard to even clear because you have 3 dps, some days it's easy and you need a scoring system like StS. Also it would be a great way to shill new characters, just have the daily run be a different high level good team comp for the new character every day for a week when a new character comes out.
Nice poverty sim game
>no auto in chaos? it's a heavy grindy game and no auto?>fuck off pleb>are we going to grind the same one chaos for months? manually?>fuck off lmaoWell, well, well... Now, honeymoon is over and you noticed a problem, huh
>>547319706Because you have a life and just want to finish the weekly quickly? Seriously if you don't have time then just do the easy way.
>>547319987>>are we going to grind the same one chaos for months? manually?That's not even the truly bad part. The bad part is that every future "Season" is going to be identical to this one, except the one (1) Chaos you grind for 2 months will be a different reskinned planet, and the bosses you kill will be different reskinned bosses... except that even "reskin" is too generous a term. And we still don't know where the fuck the missing 50-150 pulls are from the alleged 240 pulls this season was said to have.
>decklets complaining about runs becoming a chore by playing the same 3 units
>>547320253>dude just play the units you don't want to play lmao
>>547320134>The bad part is that every future "Season" is going to be identical to this oneI doubt even this season is going to be identical to this one let alone future seasons.The fact that we're running the same chaos over and over seems to be one of the biggest issues people have currently, and the amount of people giving this feedback is growing. Devs have been very responsive so far, I doubt we'll be going that long without them implementing some changes to spice up chaos, they probably just need to decide what method to use.
>>547320253Tell me about the bunny girl, why doesn't anyone use her
is there a farming guide?
>>547320316>Only likes 1-3 charactersthen go back
>>547320337You have waaay more faith in this retarded director than I do. After learning that literally everything bad about this game is his fault and that he forcefully strong armed all of it into the game in the final hour, I have very little hope. I'm just playing until I become truly burnt out, which is fast approaching.
>>547320341People think Mark is a meme.Except when it isn't and you get all the right epiphanies and gears, then every turn from turn 1 will put Mark on enemies, so her basics do damage twice.
Is this good memory
>>547320502Nobody liked Mark growing up. He always smelled bad and tried to talk to girls in middle school.
I'm rerolling an alt just to try new characters. Any suggestions on mistakes to avoid? I figure I don't want to play as Yuki this time or khalipe. I think my goal is mei Lin or rin. Or haru and tressa. I haven't even seen a kayron how are they
>>547320501I'm just basing it on what they've done. The changes to update season chaos to use zero system and open up higher level chaos and show faded memory mechanics and improve dimensional tunnels and improve epiphany rates in season chaos came VERY quickly after that feedback was given.I don't see why they wouldn't make a change if a lot of people give the feedback that they dislike running the same chaos over and over.
zzz's appeal was being next gen graphics now that its no longer next gen it flopped and now you see refuges come here
>15:30:46What's that time again?
It seems like the main problem some people have is that they grind too much. Just chill and treat the game as a marathon rather than a sprint. Your roster will grow over time and then you can mix more combatants around.
>>547320664
>>547320664>>547320741Found it. So it's someone from these countries.
>>547320549>2 ATK>Only 1 crit dam/%not really
>>547320730The game wants you to grind it, retard. There is no other option. Grind for deck RNG, grind the same Chaos over and over again. Even if you just log in and spend stamina, that's a grind too because you make no daily progress whatsoever.
>>547313002>Play Nikke and CZN.>Blast through daily chores in like twenty mins each.>Have time to build model kit girls.>Can also play other vidya like Blood West.>Consider playing Snowbreak again only so stop because its too much.>Wait for other gachas like Silver Palace to release and wonder if a horror gacha will ever release that allows for open world exploration and mixes gothic horror with anime.
>post one harmless ZZZ image>not even shitting on the game>immediately cause melty
>>547320840>The game wants you to grind it, retard.Does it? I'm bing chilling currently so clearly you're wrong.
I found Yuki's old kit. Her kit was way, way simpler. As usual, no numbers etc.-----Starting cards-----Ghost Slash (2 copies)X% DamageParryX% ShieldFleeting GapNumber of hits for the next Attack Card used by Yuki +1.-----Unique cards-----Great Zen SlashX% Damage to all enemiesSerrated BladeX% Damage. +30% Damage if target is in Weaken state.Sheathe SwordX% Shield. Move Fleeting Gap from Graveyard to hand.Moon CleaveX% Damage. Apply Y Vulnerable.Ego SkillAwakenX% Damage. Y% Shield. Unlike the other early kits, this one doesn't even have the "after" or the "fate" versions. This is all we have.
>the game is good because I can forget about it and play other games
>>547320952Isn't this just Owen's kit? Lmao
>Sea hours with people getting filtered and angry about itSo every other gacha game on this website.
>>547320941You are purposely shitposting. (You) are a prime example of why SEA needs to be rangebanned from 4chan.
Why does the japanese mei lin say >sure you can When she does her kick?Why is she speaking English????
>>547321054Oh wow I just realized that lolSo they moved Yuki's old kit to Owen but Serrated Blade becomes another Damage + Shield card like his ego skill
Even crafting memory cost money, for fuck sake...
Bros, this is enough, right? Sadly no Div but 3 copies of move ought to be good.
>>547319793Okay, Diff 1 only gives 1000 (500x2 boss) weekly points, which is fair considering it's literally a cakewalk. You can just do Diff 5 (which is still a cakewalk) to get your 2k weekly points and be done for the week.>>547319793Just grind Diff 5 if you really want extra currency. You can guarantee a kill on all the buffed nodes and do it fast without any risk if you have a competent team.
>>547321240
>>547320664>What's that time again?Adventure time!
alright, I'm gonna amir in event chaos. wish me luck guys
>>547321376>19:24:24What country is that bro!
FUCKright before the final boss too
This is what happened when you let Mihoyo staying in your general, they will treat this place as their own home>>547320549
>>547321512roguelike is a new genre fad where you sometimes die from badly balanced design
>>547321454Good luck!!
>>547321512just ult with vero bro
I'mma be real wiping in this game should be rare.
>>547321602This is nothing to do with roguelite, that nigga just unbalance in genenal
UNCHIMASU
>>547321671no, it's every indie dev's fault. may the lord show them no sympathy
>>547321376
Forceful is such a horseshot modifier, literally worse than Neglect
>>547321602>>547321671I've actually never died to this guy or vagina man. I'm running Khalipe 90% of the time which I imagine is part of it.
I finally beat CRAB9 Difficulty 3 with Yuki!
>>547321602losing to anything ever = badly balanced
>people STILL get filtered by dogYou niggas don't bring AoE to the AoE check then proceed to complain when you get AoE checked???>>547321826Vagina is different because all he needs is multihit and enough healing to sustain getting 30% of your HP deleted every 2 turns.
>>547320502I can get that since running some Hugo Epiphanies with Marks just makes him hit harder
I hope they collab with dungeoneering games like Layrinth or Strange Journey so we can get planets like ice planets or sea planets or shopping mall planets.Fuck. Imagine a sex dungeon planet.
>>547321554>some weak ass bait i can ignoreIf we got a scat poster, you'd have a point
>>547321957He has vero with her ego skill ready to cast I don't even know what his problem is.
>>547322093You are replying to the bait
>>547321957>You niggas don't bring AoE to the AoE check then proceed to complain when you get AoE checked???you still need some luck with draw to not get fucked here. when event just started a died to a dog with top tier deck and team simply because a bad draws during the early turns
>>547322180FUCK
>>547322182yeah, that's a lot of typos and fuck. i guess im tired
Still not buffed
>>547321927The most well invested Yuki on the server...
NOTBEINGABLETOPICKTHEFUCKINGCARDTO COPYAT THE VERYEND OF THEFUCKINGRUNISUTTERRETARDATION YOU RETARDEDGOOK FUCKS
Now that I bench the cow tits, who can I use this with
>>547322384Speak your truth sister
>>547322334"I've seen enough, buff Hugo so Hugo Tressa stays relevant for 2 more years"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x4weajfqm0
>>547322478Luke or Mei Lin or Kayron going to be best, anyone who can scale a ton of hit count.
What can I do at Level 50 that I can't already do at Level 49?
>>547322594Being poor
>>547322535Bwo... it's already irrelevant because of Cassius.>>547322594Level combatants/partners to 60 and get the last 2 potential nodes. There was content gated at 50 but they moved it to 40 a few days ago.There might be some battle missions and story stuff at 50 as well. And first time clears of difficulty 6 base chaos.
>>547322030Strange journey would actually hit so hard because of how sectors work But you and I are the only people who care about both czn and strange journey at the same time
They should let you trial your own character at with max level, but it won't keep the save for you
>>547321957>You niggas don't bring AoE to the AoE checkThere should be a choice if I want to fight this AoE check or some other bs. If I can cruise through the whole run, but get unlucky, meet this guy and get raped then its a bad game design. Effectively 20 min of progress is wasted due to 50/50. At least fucking show this fuck to me on the map so I can avoid him.
>>547322672Only for save file contents, dragging Cassius through chaos sucks
>>547322806>At least fucking show this fuck to me on the map so I can avoid him.THEY ALREADY DO, THEY HAVE ICONS ON THE ROUTE SELECTION SO YOU CAN SEE THE ENEMY GROUP YOU'RE GONNA JUMP INTO YOU FUCKING MOUTHBREATHER AND IF THAT DOESN'T TELL YOU ENOUGH THEN JUST AVOID RED SPACES AND PLAN YOUR ROUTE TO GO TO AN ELITE SPACE ANYWAYS SINCE IT'S A FREE WIN IN INTERIOR SECOND HALFHOLY SHIT YOU CANNOT BE THIS FUCKING MORONIC YOU HAVE TO BE TROLLING ME
>>547322978At lower investment maybeFinal potential and E6 on cassius are both fucking broken though
>>547323038Yeah let me just get E6 of the 4* character without any rate up
>>547323130You can get the final potential just fine. 1 morale + 1 fortitude per quest completed for the turn is VERY good.
What's the point of monster card if you are not allowed to bring it back with good deck, what am I going to brick entire deck for one fucking card?
whats a good pornsite to goon at while theres no content? i use hanimeone.me
>>547323375I've been using exhentai since I was 13 years old, back in 2013 Don't really know or care about any other site
>>547323363IT'S JUST FOR FUN, BRO.
>>547323363You can get like 160-170 data cap in the highest tiers, it's basically an extreme minmax.I do hope they add a character eventually where their starter unique can be permanently transformed into the monster card of an elite/boss you are fighting (while not having any faded memory increase), and all their cards revolve around interacting with monster cards. Would give a LOT of depth in 1 character because of all the different ways you could build them based on the monster card you target.
>instead of fixing the game issue they will be focusing on "fixing story" that no one give a rat ass about
When I click the game icon on my desktop, I want it to actually open the game, not just fucking STOVE
>>547323363At higher tiers you can make a save data with a good enough standard deck and one monster card + epiphany if you exclude neutrals.
>>547323619There's nothing to fix if the game is raking in cash
>>547323619Unfortunately there's people who unironically care about gacha game's stories instead of reading a book or something, and there's people who only keep playing a gacha of they like the story
>>547323476literal white screen janky website
>>547323735Skill issue lil bro
>>547323619Why not BOTH?
>>547323619Do you think the writing team is the same as the gameplay team?The story fixing stuff will stall chapter 6+ story, not affect gameplay fixes.
making players do the same chaos with the same team over and over is a nice way to kill the game
>>547323868EoS soon
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>ladyboys getting uppity
>new apologyGoo->no gibsWhat the FUCK are the gooks doing
>>547323989Ok boomer
>>547323868TRUKE
guys..I have to dupe the hurricane, right?
>>547324183or should I just dupe the retain SoW to make it x3I have enough room for Whirlpool removal too, I can make a REALLY good Mika here.Amir or Mika?
>>547323989Why you never post mihoyopag version of this?
>>547324183Dupe Hurricane if you're building Amir, it's her best attack card by far and the only way you could've made it better is with a -1 cost divine epiphany
>level up cost money>level unlock cost money>upgrade the upgrade materials cost money>potential cost money>upgrade memory cost money>craft memory cost money>memory wipe cost money>food cost money
>run blue pot to level up exploration for cube>get thiscan I get these in season chaos please?
>>547324016They're losing their power...
>>547324392merging costs money too until you unlock all the upgrades so you have chaos orbs to spare, this game is cooked
So where is this dumb bitch, why does Squidward keep visiting us all the time
>>547324392south korean game. a game from capitalist heaven
>>547324496probably just not implemented yet, I imagine we'll get more stuff as time goes onhopefully dimensional tunnel goes core and gets added as a random thing you can hit in any chaos for instance
>>547324496You don't want to see that guy.
>>547324016>What the FUCK are the gooks doingThey're busy with different drama now that CZN honeymoon period has ended
>>547324576Wow this would really fucks with Retain, Veronica and Renoa
what does Nia's anus smell like?
>>547324496This is a really nice monster design wtf
>>547324756Anon, replay Chapter 1 for me please
>>547324710like my cum
>>547324078How does getting horny mid fight even work?
>>547324791W-why
>>547324913It already appeared from the tutorial, but both it and the cyclops doesn't show up anywhere else
>>547324576aieeeeeeeeeee
this card is much better than I thought, it actually adds Vul or Weak per hit.I just got 3 Vul and 1 Weaken with it, that's pretty fucking good for a neutral card.
>>547324913Nevermind, you can't replay the stage.
>>547325073quit yapping
>>547325073I mean I assumed as much, but I still wouldn't take it because it's bloat.
>>547324980Oh that's so true, I kinda remember seeing him but he was a jobber in the intro >>547325084Lame, but there should be a video on youtube or I can just make a guest account, the cyclops yokai japanese looking giant was also very cool, we need more monsters like that one
>>547325073i love it when you start yapping
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239 ITS OVER
YOOOO?
>>547325385>Getting additional ST epiphaniesIt's something at least. Already more than she needs honestly.
DOOMERS LOSTDOOMERS LOSTDOOMERS LOSTDOOMERS LOSTDOOMERS LOST
>>547325385I have photosensitive epilepsy, these smilegate niggas are gonna kill me They're already kinda killing me when cthulhu shows up
>>547325438holy shit, this might actually save the game.
>>547325385YUKI BUFF
>>547325438What the fuck so what happened to those who already max them?
>>547325438>80% unit reductionHOLY FUCKINGDEVSEVSLISTENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>547313002I'm enjoying Chinese Sekiro
>>547325574Full refund
>>547325385>Yuki single-target epiphanies rebalancedHoly fuck I won
>>547325580Have you fought the fucking horse yet?Fuck that fucking horse.
>ST routeOhnonononno Rinkeks
>>547325502Every game already warns you about that, bwo...
>>547325602LEVEL UP YOUR SHITTERS NOWBUY BUY BUY
>>547325438THEY NEED TO FUCKING REFUND ME ALL THE UNITS I ALREADY USED AND GIVE ME APOLOGEMS ON TOP OF THAT
>new currency for chaos run to get growth materialyea, dev listened so hard
>>547325438REFUNDS DOKOAlso, amazing change.
>Full refunds BASED DEVS BASED DEVSBASED DEVS
>>547325476>>547325385>>547325438>>547325602EOSisters...We lost...
>>547325686>>547325707>>547325438READ NIGGA >>547325602
>>547325385>>547325438Holy shit we fucking won>>547325629I died twice, that horse is fucking bullshit because most of its attacks cant be parried. So far I've beaten 5 bosses on legend, one giving me the hardest time was the Puppeteer, but maybe it was because I did it at lv 3 kek
>>547325438>reduced by 80%wtf were this dipshit gooks thinking in the first place lmao
>3 DecHuh if i leveled my units now its free?What the fuck?
DOOMSISSIES THIS CANT BE HAPPENINGLETS REGROUP ON THE DISCORD NOWWE NEED TO FIND A NEW NARRATIVE
The speed at which these guys are making pretty big sweeping changes is legitimately impressive. Hoyoslop and Kuro never make changes this fast nor this impactful.
>>547325649What am I supposed to do, not play vidya? I'd rather kms
>>547325438i actually never had any problems with money as active player expect for 2 days after i hit 50
>>547325385Every single change is good.Now let us choose the card I want to copy fucking gooks.
>Yuki's less-used epiphanies will be rebalancedHow hard did I win
>>547325809The director may be a hoyoshill retard but the rest of the team seems to actually be quite solid
ROLL ROLL ROLL
>After we revealed the scoring rules for Save Data, many Protos shared that while challenging various different deck builds, they had to calculate their deck-building scores manually or rely on external tools, which became inconvenient.>To resolve this, the Agent Info screen will now display your current Save Data’s “Faint Memory Points” inreal time,allowing you to focus fully on the game without any inconvenience.So long, calculator sites...
>Yuki's numbers remain unbuffedwe DoomGODS are still in it. Don't get cocky
>>547325385>release Yuki ahead of schedule>she sucks at content available in the event you release>now you have to deal with people complaining about her performance>"we'll let you build her as a single target damage dealer. eventually. maybe."They're not very smart, huh
>>547325932She doesn't need any number buffs, Yukibabs are lucky she's getting more ST options.
>>547325385>The Great Rift and Codex for Yuki shillsAoE basin incoming? Like Purefiction/Whimpering Waves?
>>547323363The real problem is that some monster cards aren't good enough to justify sacrificing 80 points, so they feel kind of like a waste when you drop them.
>>547325876>E0 Hmmmm, nyot at all.
WE CAN ACTUALLY PLAY OTHER CHARACTERS NOW AND GET THE STANDARD PULLS FOR LEVELING UP COMBATANTS LETS GOOOOOOO
>>547325929This is good but unless the game tells you how many points an action will add or take away ingame you still need a calculator to not fuck up when making a choice.
>>547325476Doomers won though, I doom because I want to see those changes.>>547325385>in battles against two or moreE0? Also>Yuki will shine in the next update That's kinda retarded, then they should've made her banner later.
>>547325929Holy shit this is a fucking god send. They're really streamlining the process. Now we just need EPIPHANY REROLLS
What does a good Beryl deck look like?
>>547325385>Internal data shows that Yuki already performs well in battles against two or more enemiesIs this true? You guys told me she sucks even in her niche.
>>547325929>>547325385>>547325438>>547325602
>>547325809Because their main flagship is PvP game, of course they have fast respond they don't want to piss off whale.
>>547325929Based on that screenshot we can actually see our gear now Amazing
Give me a good reason why this game needs this fucking garbage? A game that already has disgusting grind and rng in chaos and the fragment system, but yet that's not enough oh nononono that's not enough to cap players, they also need to come up with a shitty lvl up mat for frags that are extremely rare, cannot be merged so those 1k+ of the other lvling mats are worthless, cannot be acquired by dismantling other frags. So you just end up with a bunch of fragments that you cannot level up because of this garbage mats.Why is everything related to progression in this game so hostile? It's like they actively want people to quit or play the same fucking 2 teams until EOS FUCKING GOOKS.
>>547325385Guess I'm not rolling then>we'll design tailor made events for the rate up units to shine in instead of making said units fun to play with from the startThis is very worrying btw
>>547326063Yuki doomers are retarded, she is not going to ever see any number buffs. Which is good.
>use stamina regen to get quickly to 50 to do the event>5 hours later they unlock the event for level 40>use all my credit to level everyone to 60>1 day later they announce they will reduce the costs
Tch, guess I'll extend that horrible BP and monthly pakeji
>>547326063Well she hits for like 6k in AoE with her skills but the fights that have multiple enemies are usually fodder or gimmicks.As soon as there's only 1 enemy her damage falls off extremely fast.
>>547323868>>547312550I said from the beginning this would be the main problem.I'm still on the cope that this is just because it's their first season and will learn with their mistakes though
>>547326110This is literally what everyone here has been asking for.
>>547325929This is the best part for me, as a 1 week player, I just started to dip into actually thinking about my decks and I still get confused by the calcs.
>>547325929That's very good, I hope they will also add a scoring system to every action that affects your score. You still have to know if say you are 100/120 that god epiphany is 20 or whatever.
>>547326069Lmao who did this edit
>>547326063No, in the same battle GAYRON deals 3x more damage with less setup and with a dick (not his own) in his hand.
>>547326048Here's mine
>>547325580The game is fucking based for putting bounty system
BATTOUUCHI NO BATTOUBATTOU
>>547326063She's fine in aoe and shit in ST, meanwhile you have characters like kayron who can do both with no drawbacks
>>547323363You can totally bring back monster cards with good deck, but only for Strikers who still want to keep their atk basics and only remove the shield (Free with Sample Convert), so that is potentially 160 points at max, monster card with Epiphany is 90 points, building someone with absolutely max dupes (4 copes) is 40 points, that means you can still fit another Neutral/forbidden card, still an absolutely god deck, just without divine epiphanies
>>547326063She sucks as in she is ok at best, Khalipe can dish out bigger damage not doing anything. My Khalipe would do 2-4k damage on a single enemy without weakness at times, on top of my Haru doing big crits.
>>547326141
>>547326162No? One event that makes them look good on release doesn't mean shit if they suck everywhere else.That's not how you balance a game and gacha games only do this to get you to roll on the new shiny shit. It's literally a change for the worse.
>>547326191Does Opening Found work with other combatants' retain cards as well or just her own?
>>547326174I dropped the folder on literbox last week, I've been just editing/redrawing a bunch of memes/images/stickers/webcomics I've seen online
>>547326294Ok, but that doesn't change the fact that everyone was complaining about how the enemies and bosses were not a good match for Yuki in her event.
>>547326320It specifically said owned card
>>547326320Only her own. The good thing about this deck is she can work with any support. You just need to cycle through your deck as fast as possible and you win.
You win SmilegateI will give you money
>>547325385>>547325438>currency required reduced by 80%>Chaos drops currency for some extra shop with leveling materialsAt this rate, we're only like 3-5 more patches from actually becoming a good game.
>>547326341Nice work anon
>First, to support smoother Chaos plays, the “Divine Delegate” event will now guarantee at least one option with the [Reaper Feature*].>* Reaper Feature: Fixes monsters’ HP at 1 for three Normal Battles.What do we think about guaranteed Neow's Lament? I hate that it takes away one of the choices (which are two per run, three if you unlock the very last zero upgrade)
Great patch notes. I think my only real complaint at this point is there needs to be a better way to guarantee the card copy event and you should be able to select the card you want to copy after the second boss. I will still need to do 20+ runs to minmax but I can at least get myself a bit closer to what I want.
>>547326341I want your folder
>>547326382There's a big difference between "own" and "owned.">>547326418I see. I thought Beryl was a subdps? I was trying to build her as such.
>>547326458I literally never take that option because the early fights are incredibly easy and the enemies die in 2-3 attacks. It's actually a huge grief to do this.
>>547326472They will probably add an Option Reroll feature using the Sands of Time later on.But they don't want to give players that much consistency so early into the game since it will decrease playtime a fuckton.
>>547326458The fact that it's only normal battles make it bad, but other options are shit anyway.
You know what else annoy me? It's the fact that a good deck is nothing more than a deck where your key card land a good divine epiphany and then you copy that shit multiple times, look at this shit, this would be broken as fuck if only the original rising dragon had the -1 AP divine epiphany Also since they finally explained how save data works, why don't they just add a function to check your deck score in game rather than to make me bust a calculator everytime?
>>547326458Who the fuck asked for this?
>>547326436Damn, anon is actually committed >>547326458It sucks in this game because it's only normal battles, not elites
>>547326549I mean if I keep getting fucked like this my playtime is gonna be 0.
>>547326294Yuki is performing fine, you lost.
>>547326561They did, check the developer's note.
>>547325929>>547326561This is what I get for posting before reading the rest of the thread
>>547325385>>547325438MINUS EIGHTY FUCKING PERCENTHOLY SHIT I CAN BUILD FIVE CHARACTERS FOR THE COST OF ONEHOLY SHITTTTTTTTT THIS IS FANTASTIC
>>547326561>Also since they finally explained how save data works, why don't they just add a function to check your deck score in game rather than to make me bust a calculator everytime?read retard >the Agent Info screen will now display your current Save Data’s “Faint Memory Points” inreal time
>>547326606UMMM IT'S A ROUGELIKE ALRIGHT? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ROLL LE AR EN GEE OPTIONS AND GET BAD BUILDS
>>547326670>I CAN BUILD FIVE CHARACTERS FOR THE COST OF ONEEhh... you're still gonna run out of exp materials. You just wont be debating about whether or not to buy food for your Chaos runs because you'll be able to afford it now.
First Rin run, she is actually fun once she gets her first few epiphanies. Hows the build lookin
Now they just need to increase the potential drops by 80% Please and thank you
WE'RE GONNA BE RICH BOYS
>>547326778ROCK AND STONE
>>547325438man, it's still wild to think that the cost was fucking ONE WHOLE MILLY for ONE CHARACTER when there is no passive unit generation and one 60 (sixty!) stamina run would only give 96k (not even 100k)
>All Units already consumed for Agent leveling will be fully refunded
Does the new credit discount retroactively apply to all levels from 1 to 60, or just to levels from 50 to 60?I don't have any units at 60.
ok what do I do with all the gold I farmed now
>>547326670>>547326717the thing is, it takes 2 million units to 1-60 a unit right now, 1 million in the actual leveling costs with books 1 million in pressing the promotion button five times. Are they only reducing the button press? It reads like leveling costs are only actually being reduced 40%.
>>547326757Also i almost hit a godly Veronica build if id pull that 3rd copy
>>547325385>>547325438jesus man the comments under the X post are completely retarded mouthbreakting 0 IQ niggersdo gachas attract the bottom of the bottom?makes me ashamed that i play this shithttps://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/1991808823384785123
I don't get itI had enough money to limit break 6 characters to 60, my bottleneck is the mats needed to level them up and that's not getting changedWhy is everyone celebrating
>>547326757Dark Mist Inner Art has an upgrade version (+50% to all damage) that's absolutely great and is a terrible card otherwise. any build without that will be temporary.
I'm 50% away from Level 50. What should I do with these once I hit 50?
>>547326875you werent supposed to do that even as a poorfag
also more gibs for the poor peoplehttps://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/1991816360285147464
>>547326063Saying>she performs wellis corpo speak and already says enough
>>547326805the current cost is actually 2 million, so I'm a little confused by the post.
>>547326984
>>547326969The only use for this item is refreshing your energy, so use them whenever you want to either get simulation gibs or a surprisingly good chaos loot drop.
CHECK UNDER YOUR FORESKIN
>>547326882>Are they only reducing the button press? It reads like leveling costs are only actually being reduced 40%.I don't think it even matters. To me, it sounds like your units just wont matter anymore. You'll still have to farm exp mats and promotion upgrade mats and potential mats and all that stuff, none of that's going away, none of that is getting reduced. You just wont be constantly strapped for cash anymore, wondering how you're gonna afford your 15k food buff. That's the only change.
>>547326868You're cooked
>>547326969equipment
>>547326945Look at this faggot levelling only 6 units
>>547326950Noted, back to the mines
>>547326969if you are not in rush then all in potential
>>547327057Yum, i love cheese
>>547326457>>547326482Added a few new ones since last time so I'm putting it up for grabs againhttps://litter.catbox.moe/lg8zidn8tjvkdfv1.7z1 hour expiration
>>547327059but that's not true. memory fragments still cost 100k units to level and give 0 units on refund. and again, leveling characters costs 2 million and we're only being told about a reduction of 800k. they'll still be a constrained resource but not nearly to the degree that they are now.
>>547327125I appreciate the dolphin porn anon
>>547327053>>547327075>>547327094Thaks, bwos... I only refreshed my stam like maybe twice on my way to 50. Feels kinda good.
>>547326458I actually don't like it very much because early normal fights are really really easy so I usually skip that option, forcing it every time just reduces options for meIf they wanted to reduce the time spent in deck building, they should just change that to>the next 3 normal fights will guarantee at least one epiphany per character (9 max)
>>547326458It's shit obv
>>547327125I love you, thanks for the dolphin porn.
>>547326458This should just be a baseline thing that doesn't require selection, the first few enemies are cake walks who do nothing but give you like 4 stress.
>>547327059They are also adding more growth mats for playing chaos
>>547326063*with the dev tools that allow you to pick any epiphany and gear
>>547326969It's just stam, so anything you would use stam on.Basically simulation for anything you need besides memory fragments. Use stam on level 71+ chaos for memory fragments (which will give 3 gold).
>>547327186>memory fragments still cost 100k units to levelThat's unironically 60 stamina. Not even that bad as far as the endless pile of homo-inspired bullshit in this game goes.
so...when are they going to fix the memory frag economy? You level up frag, it ends up being shit, you dismantle it and don't get any moneys.
>>547326717Exp mats will probably be on the new shop
Did they nerf the epiphany occurrences?? I've been neglecting the game for the last two weeks or so and now I've returned and I'm doing chaos runs but I barely get any epiphanies when previously I'd get most my of my shit before entering the interior???
>>547326875Level up your entire barracks for oranges.
>>547327078My post is literally about how levelling just 6 units is already impossible due to the exp mats drought though...Why would I try levelling more than that
>we confirmed that the amount of Unit Currency required for Agent growth has been excessively burdensomeNo shit you retarded devs...
>>547327236Do you not know you're limited to 8 combat epiphanies per stage (exterior/interior)?That's why it's super important to get epiphanies from events and the pocket watch trinket in the shop.
>>547326717>>547327059This will help a bit for the rest of the mats
>>547327069That didn't answer my question dammit. But I suppose it's just the cost of going 50>60.
>>547326193Kek, sorry for off topic but this looks funny as hell
>>547327489What is this?
If they're going to display your memory total during runs they need to include values on cards and epiphanies to plan accordingly. They should also give you a 1 use mercy (maybe 2 with zero system) to remove/reset a card/epiphany to lower your total to avoid going over budget.
Previous Unit Consumption: 1,080,000 >>> Updated Unit Consumption: 216,000Isn't this a bit too much? Hope they don't regret it down the line.
>>547327353dismantling gold frags gives the mat to craft gold frags, and dismantling all frags gives the mat to upgrade frags (and it's all you need for 1-3)
>>547327485I did not know that actually, that's really ass.
>>547327505Stop punching me
>>547327554yes it isat this rate they can just make the units level with the protos and remove the currencyturn the game into everyone gets everything
Now that the unit economy is fixed, i can afford to use Rei!
>>547327527new shop you earn currency for it doing chaos
LateGAWDS keep winning
>>547327554Everything in this game costs units. People are at the point where they aren't even able to buy the food buffs. I've been saying that they need to reduce the cost and materials to level literally half, but I guess reducing the unit cost by 80% and then creating a shop for the other materials isn't the worst compromise, though it depends on how much of that shop currency actually drops during Chaos.
>>547327554People still need to farm other materials
>>547327527>Next, we will be adding the “Blackhorn Trade,” where you can obtain more Agent growth currency.>Protos who wish to train more Agents can now clear Chaos to acquire “Crystal of Discord,” which can be exchanged at the “Blackhorn Trade” for additional growth currency.
>>547327587I would never
>>547327554Regret what? It's one of those currencies you should have by millions
>First, to support smoother Chaos plays, the “Divine Delegate” event will now guarantee at least one option with the [Reaper Feature*].* Reaper Feature: Fixes monsters’ HP at 1 for three Normal Battles.These retards do not play their game 1000000000%, who the fuck cares about this? How about Fixed monsters' HP at 1 for the LAST three Normal Battles? You know because you fucks don't even play the game and as such are incapable of balancing NORMAL battles properly, making people waste almost half an hour just to die to some vagina monster that is harder than the boss?
>>547327331in homo over the long run you get 91% of your units back (counting double/fiveX xp triggers) when you disassemble an artifact for xp. here you get 0 that 100k is just gone. it's a completely different and much nastier economy.
>>547327629>>547327668Oh shit that's nice.
>>547327612I mean the resource gating on progression for characters doesn't really serve any purpose other than to extend playtime, and it's kinda shit with the genre of the game where people want to try different combos but get funneled into minmaxing their squad of 6 which for a new f2p will probably take like 2-3 months to minmax. Good to give people more options at a higher baeline and leave the minmaxing for memory fragments.
Will the succubus partners be available in the next premium battlepass? after this one ends. I won't be able to complete it in 11 days
>>547327706The normal battles before final boss is a deck check.Just pick a path with event or elite monster if vagina monster or the houndmaster pack wrecks you all the time.
>>547327746the game should not be modeled for f2p beggarsexpecting games to be free to play is retarded and delusional
>>547327706It's an option to speed up the early part of chaos runs, retard. They even said so in the notice.
>full fucking refundLATE NIGGAS START THE GAME NOW
>>547327669
>>547327713>upgrading something to +5 that you're going to dismantleyou're just retarded unfortunately
>>547327554it costs 2 million right now to level a unit so idk what they're talking about. i think the total cost is only being lowered 40%.
>>547326915>you need to loginSomeone post the comments
>>547327713I feed rng gear into other RNG gear in that game.Or use it as fuel for a converter/ mainstat gear crafting
>>547327776They said nothing will be missable, You can get all succubus partners and infinite copies until EoS as long as you buy BP
>>547327804I gave a timeline for f2p but this applies to people who spend too. I have several units I want to play with sitting at 20 no investment because I'm working on minmaxing my core 6 for great rift. It just takes longer f2p. It's still an issue.
>>547327797NTA. I'm good with deck checks but when certain enemies can clap me from 100-0 with above average decks something is wrong
>>547325385WE ARE SO BACK
>>547327835it is month 1 you are going to dismantle every single one of these pieces eventually. you do not have the ability to think even two months into the future when they release a new set, you are legitimately submental.
>>547326757Her BiS is vulnerable spam
>>547327945everyone is smarter than (you) on the korean basket weaving forum, don't forget about it chud
>>547327812>3' faster vs remove/convert a cardOnly retard would choose that option
>>547327926yes but there needs to be denial of reward, it is a gameplay mechanic that makes games and level ups more excitingyou should not get everything for free and you should have to make decisions which units to level and which to leave aloneif everyone gets everything it is far less exciting for everyone
>>547327372Anyone? I'm nearly at the end and I have 2 fucking epiphanies. What is this shit?
>>547313002I uninstalled HSR and ZZZ yesterday
>>547327713Damn, really? Sorry, I don't play homo games so I don't know. How the fuck are our artifacts even worse than homo's?>>547327804>expecting games to be free to play is retarded and delusional...that's the entire gacha business model. I'd rather buy this game for $30-60 and never be forced to worry about gacha trash systems like farming artifacts with stamina, but they chose to make it a f2p game, so I'm f2p.
>>547325727Don't worry doomxister, they can't keep getting away with it forever
>>547327797NORMAL battles shouldn't be a check to anything, they are actively grifting the divine buffs at the start with a worthless "buff" to meme fights that die to 1-2 hits. This shit is Hoyoshit levels of retardation.>>547327812Speed up what you fucking retard the fights end in seconds, how about they release a TURN BASED game with proper speed up in battles instead of making garbage buffs no one will ever take? Kys if you actually think this is a positive.
>>547327994oh shit wtf that looks nice
Why are nikkucks invading our general
>>547327872https://nitter.net/CZN_Official_EN/status/1991808823384785123
So when does this update comes out and why do they keep announcing this shit every weekend when I have time to sit and play? Can't they fix their game when I'm at work
>>547327031They're either removing the promotion costs, or leaving only the promotion costs.
will I get refunded all the credits I already spent on agents to 60???????????????????????????????
>>547327994>Remove the 2 cost attack>Make an extra copy of destruction>Change dark mist inner art to the 50% buff epiI couldn't envision a rin deck better than that one. This is close though, very good build anon.
>>547328039Retard can you fucking read. I never said give everyone everything for free. Also everyone isn't going to have everything even if levels were free because there's still differences in character pools and dupes and partners and potential and memory fragments.
>Yuki is already good>she still get buffed>Haru is underwhelming AF end game>nobody is speaking out>doesn't get buffedHarubros...... I'm really hating Yukifags
What's better for Rin? The green gun or the Mutant Predator Spike both from Lab 0?
>>547328243Haru doesn't need a set that makes her AOE
>>547328110yes exactly!! hopefully it's the promo costs getting reduced because I don't care about 51-60 so it can stay expensive.
>>547327554Objectively speaking, like every gacha out there, in the long run people will literally sit on hundreds of million or even billions of credit/gold/units since the frequency they spend it drops with time, the longer they play.So I don't particularly care about this change since it helps a lot more early on and has zero impact later on. Hell, you'll still run out of unit even after that change because it's so early in the game you're still upgrading a lot of shit and the game has unit passive income at all.
>>547327706casuals rules the game unfortunately
>>547328060>Damn, really? Sorry, I don't play homo games so I don't know. How the fuck are our artifacts even worse than homo's?that's a very good question. they're getting away with it so far but over the long term other players are going to notice and we'll see what happens.
>>547328165give me my millions back
>>547328243>>Yuki is already good>>she still get buffedAllowing her to be single target, sure is a buff, but it's literally just necessary. She underperforms.
>>547327706people like this>>547328223the mentality is that everything has to be for free and complete faceroll trash without any investment or effort
I'll be back
Kyrken and her 4 arms ball fondling technique...
Devs unironically listens to the community too much they are going to make this game too fucking easy in a few months
>>547328243There's nothing about Yuki buffs?
>>547328547fuck off nigger
>>547327812I don't think that speeds up the run that much.The rest of the run is more important for the lenght, and two people starting at the same time but with one picking this option I still think will end their runs at about the same time.The other options from there are most of the time better to save time than>those three fights that took you one minute each? They take 15 seconds now!>aren't you glad you saved 2 minutes tops?And then the rest of the run goes to shit with the usual>missed epiphanies>copy didn't hit the right card>div hit the wrong option>here's a vagina with 15k HP
Just let me skip dailies already noggers
>devs listened>still no selector tickets
>>547327706yea that's weird to me, it's not like sts where the first three fights can be the hardest in the game sometimes
>>547328547>they are going to make this game too fucking easyMaybe, but I doubt it. So far they're only changing the complete bullshit stuff.
guys, I tried to make single target dps Amir. it has 3copies of 3-hits MP.it's not as good as 1cost hurricane, but it's much easier to build, still work with Rei's buff and a little bit more consistent. I like it a lot!
hopefully the devs give luke, rin, renoa, meilin etc. big aoe attacks too. would be a shame if they underperformed in aoe content.
What about Haru buff?
Casuals will run this game into the ground and still quitsscreencap this
>>547328473No the mentality is having a higher baseline level for what you can get a new character to without interfering much with the progression of your main team is good because it means you can play with a more varied character pool which is more fun and causes less burnout.I probably have far more investment and effort than you anyways, you're retarded for trying to argue this.
>>547328276Bwos...?
>>547328653FVARKKeep up the good work, Amirchad
Bros holy shit I just saw the news. I'm over here grinding away at grub when I should just be playing full time holy shit I'm literally cumming
>>547327706Im going to be real with you, I have never been filtered by the dog man, because I always bring a Ranger (all has AoE Ego nuke), always save my Ego points for the few last nodes, and buy some maneuvering Fire for good measure when I'm not doing a good run with deck thinning....Speaking of deck thinning, I hope they add that as a new option so we have 4 options at Divine messenger instead of keeping it at 3 and making that option always available, I've been enjoying the converting to Neutral reroll tech, combined with Sample [Remove] tech for my god runs
>skip chaos walking animation and talking, go direct to the choice>2X/3X battle speed>codex upgrades that makes you reroll ephiphanies>skip ephiphany button or option to pay to remove ephiphany in the shop>you can choose for the character not get a unique ephiphany instead of being forced to get shit ones like mika whirlpool>if points surpass at the end of the run, you can choose to remove a card or what basic add backI fixed your game
>>547328653post gear and potentials.
>>547328795Grind your celestials good goy
>>547328669You are so butthurt it's funny. The reality is that at least Luke, Rin, and Mei Lin are so good in single target that they are also actually better for "aoe" clearing than Yuki is. That's the issue. Yuki's not even the best aoe, unless you want to start having "endless wave defense" modes where you fight waves upon waves of enemies where a majority of them have 5 enemies at a time.
>>547327125sex with orlea's pits while she sleeps
So how are they buffing her? Epiphanies change?
>wake up>still no yuki bu-WE WON? THIS IS WHY YOU ALWAYS CRY, PISS AND SHIT YOUR PANTS TILL YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT
>>547328109Dec 3rd patch, which I think is the second part of the current eventBasically, in two weeks
>Haru is now the worst character after Yuki's planned buffIts over...
Still not pulling Yuki unless they change that fucking retard ass laught
>1000 jims in the mailsmileGENEROUStime to roll for yuki
>>547328887CAN WE CRY ABOUT THE EPIPHANY RNG NEXT? THE COPY RNG TOO??? LET US REROLL ONCE.
>Internal data shows that Yuki already performs well in battles against two or more enemies, so simply increasing her numerical values was deemed to carry a high risk of overbalancing the Agent.Chat is this true
So the people who keep whining about alleged "Yukifags" are actually Harufags? Or are they some weird outside invaders who don't even play this game and they're trying to cause some infighting amongst the girls, as if you can only like one of them and must necessarily hate all the other ones?
>>547328547Good.The insane luck-based grind for good save data is retarded and I would unironically rather have the game reduced to effortless autobattler sludge.
>>547328165YES THEY ALREADY SAID THEY WILL REFUND PLAYERS THAT LEVELED CHARACTERS YES IT'S FROM 0 TO 60 AND NOT 50 TO 60NO, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REDUCING BY 80% THE COST OF PROMOTIONS OR THE COST OF LEVELING UP WITH EXP MATS, BUT IT'S NOT 80% OF THE TOTAL IS ONE OF THE TWOYES, IT WILL STILL COST 1 MILLION PER CHARACTER, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT COSTS TWO MILLIONI hope this answers most questions
>>547329007Gayest post I've ever read. And thats including the literal fur fag posts.
>>547328823here.right side fragments are : 27%crit / 16%order / 25%def
myeeeeees thank you kim samsung for the 1000 gibs
>>547329147why are you grinding save data?? it is completely pointless. like you are doing something there is no reward for and then complaining that you don't enjoy it. you are fucked up in the head and blaming it on the game.
>>547328653next time dont waste vuln stack on rei card and use +morale on other target
Nothing about the abysmal epiphany rates.Nothing about getting to the end boss with countless missing epiphanies on basic cards.The burnout will hit harder than glowing poison vagina.
ok so clearly the devs are aware about the power balance so why are they still letting Mei Lin loose??????????
>>547329152can you suck me
>>547329146First time with my character is better than your character dick measuring contest? This shit happens in every game
>>547328547The ONLY thing gameplay wise they need to listen to is to make the interior boss copy option be select instead of random for tier 10+Everything they're doing is just QoL so it doesn't matter
>>547329152legitimately you are one of the only people here who understands this, i hope this gets through to someone.
There it is
What does "Max 1 time" mean?
>>547329238Because she is Chinese and Kim Samsung don't want to offend their master
>>547329217good job, you deserve e6 amir
>>547329230>changing the core gameplay loopJust get lucky.
>>547329238if the system let you have a good mei lin deck more than once in 20 runs maybe she would be broken
>>547329238Good luck getting that kind of deck for Mei Lin.
>>547329340only buffs it once
>>547328653that 800 crit rei was wildfunny how amir keeps mogging yuki too lmao
>>547329285>First time with my character is better than your character dick measuring contest? This shit happens in every game...not really, no, it doesn't. The only gacha I've played where people got angry at a girl was in Nikke people were constantly shitposting about Scarlet, but that's because she was OP. I can't think of any reason why someone would be hating Yuki while crying for Haru buffs.
>>547329230yeah bro lets just have people pick every epiphanies for the perfect deck and then just stop playing the game because there's nothing else left to do
>>547329224yeah, that was a misplay by me.I didn't expect to overkill by so much
>>547329147Sure if it means just having a 1 time reroll for epiphanies, but some of you retards will only accept god save datas like 3 0 cost Repose or 3 Unity Move Mei Lin, when you really do no not need that level of cracked save to clear all current end game content
>still no CG video about thisNigga fell off
>>547329230Maybe this is bait, but in the case it's not: if you don't like the core gameplay, just uninstall, and I mean this sincerely.
>>547329238>balancethis is a game where you having fun instead
>>547329147>insane luck-based grind for good save dataThis is nothing compared to farming Uma spark
>>547329464dude grinds 6 hours a day he's clearly burnt out by now you can tell by his last stream
>We are also reviewing other ways to let you experience and train a wider variety of Combatants,such as a feature that temporarily raises a selected Combatant’s growth level to match the Captain Level. wew lad now i can play those units without leveling them up
Which Yuki deck would anons here recommend?
>>547328813>>skip ephiphany button or option to pay to remove ephiphany in the shopI would like this for neutral cards>build going fine>neutral gets epiphany>not only it's a shit epiphany now you have lost faint memories too
>>547329562recommend for what?
>>547329549>no potentialsbwo they're still gonna suck..
>Previous Unit Consumption: 1,080,000 >>> Updated Unit Consumption: 216,000Jesus christ it was that much now?
>>547329562I recmend top right to both
>not even 10 rollsNice free "gibs", czntards
>>547329562right, but they are both too bloated with the 2cost basic and shield
>>547329634it was actually 2 million, and will still be 1.2 million after 12/3.
>>547329634codex merges cost more.....
>>547328883Least picked epiphanies are getting buffed, that's all.The buffs? They make her more ST focused instead of AoE.How will this affect her, we don't know, but there is some future out there that removing her iceberg cleave for her ST build is a good idea.
>>547329492Hey retard,the core gameplay is getting the builds.If you struggle to complete a run,you should uninstall from life.I mean this sincerely.
>>547329318Cool, the Sereniel fund keeps growing after skipping Yuki
>>547329409Its because the powergap is a lot more blatant in Nikke, and there no little to none difficulty in clearing contents, just who does bigger numbers. You dont even see dedicated fans of underdogs characters clearing contents with them. Dick measuring contests tends to happen a lot more in games where characters share a similar powerlevel, because what is there to compare when 1 mogs the other out of the competition
>>547328547look at the diablo franchise if you want to know how it ends
There's no issue with making the farming easy if they just add optional modifiers in every game mode like the ones with the crab. Pseudo-pvp and leaderboards are good for the game.Besides it would be funny to shitpost about anons with godlike decks and t0 characters failing to clear.
>>547329660
>>547329740you are a miserable piece of shit. absolute classic gacha sweat with nothing else in life.
>>547329114"Performing well" basically means>she's the second best 5* aoe dps character from our internal testings, and the best 5* aoe striker
>>547329739why can't they do this for every character? basically every single card has unplayable epiphanies...
>>547329340The wording on the middle one made me think its 1 AP everytime its retained, which sounds broken as shit, but its only 1 AP when played, after you retained it once or more
>>547329146No, Haru is decent, probably gonna be better than Yuki even after buffs
>>547328813>2X/3X battle speedIt's already pretty fast I think, there isn't many long animations to sit through besides ults.
>>547329873some epiphanies are really only meant for chaos, like kayron's 180% futility damage build fucks in chaos but is too expensive and inconsistent outside of it, it's not that easy to buff things
yuki buffed???
Farming for decks wouldn't be a problem if chaos weren't as repetitive as they are right now.What they need to focus on is bringing variety to the game. Having nothing but reskinned enemies during the first event shouldn't be a thing.
>>547328813please uninstall and dont come back :)
>>547328604They're changing her last used epiphanies so that she can become an ST unit
Prepare to subdue should've been this number
>>547329464Whomst?
>>547330124>+x%Naw
>>547329873I can see a lot of the epiphanies being designed with certain playstyle/mechanics, that just dont have support in the game right now, but definitely will in the future.Like Veronica's Repose which discards all other combatant's cards, its obviously shit right now compared to 0 cost Draw 2, but what if they release a character that WANTS to have 0 cards in hand? I'm thinking like Festive Discard Bloodcraft in OG shadowverse
>>547330124but that's exhaust
HARU NEEDS A BUFF AND I DON'T MEAN ON HER TITSBUFF HARU NOW. THIS IS NOT FAIR
>>547330098Elaborate why you don't agree.
>>547329846You are a retard who can't think,any word of your mouth means absolutely nothing.In 2 months you will not be here.Go look at the player count of other roguelites,now realise that if czn ever gets there,it's done.Its a live service game ,ppl need to keep playing and playing,not buy,do some runs,quit and never touch it again.
>>547330192But my Haru is already great...
>>547330192i wouldn't mind if they buffed her tits
>>547328813With how responsive they are with the feedbacks, I can hinestly see then implementing a deck editor type at the end of a run where you can choose what to remove/keep/add back, but obviously that type of system needs development time so it wont get implement until season 2 or something
>they are adding animation skip toofucking zoomers baka
He's literally me?
kiggers are killing this game
>>547330098He's right about the option to skip ephiphanies tho
>>547330378>future combatants will have all their animations cut short nowkino animations like Kayron or Yuki will never happen againFUCK THE CASUALS ZOOMERS
>>547328813Okay so you just don't want to play the game
>>547330378>>547330478Are you dumbAnimation skip exists in literally every single game, single player ones tooIt's just a way to speed up grinding and it's been a thing for more than 15 years now
What is this outfit..
>>547330498If I have to do the same thing over and over with no auto, I don't want to waste time waiting 10 seconds for a dialogue to end, watching 3 seconds of walking animations, and waiting through battle animations when I play my cards, yes
>>547330617sex
Is this the new shitposting angle? Downplay the need for QoL?
>>547328813>Skip talking, gamespeed, option to pick what to keep/save at the endSure>OthersNo, encourages min maxing too much, people will just stop playing once they have 1 god deck for each character
So are you buying the BP and monthly package now?
I'm reading what the dupes do for Yuki and they're kinda ass. Like really ass
>>547330378>>547330478Where dis?
>>547330705people just want a cheap reaction... always
>>547328813>skip ephiphany button or option to pay to remove ephiphany in the shopAn option to skip/reroll/remove epiphany will just turn the game into flowchart where there's only 1 correct choice, erasing any reason to replay the game.Instead, buff trash epiphanies instead so people have less reason to skip/reroll/remove them.
>>547328547they will just powercreep the fuck out of everything so your builds can't clear shit anymore
>>547330617Pure sex, that's what it is.
>devs are adding QoL>BUT will change nothing regarding YukiFuck this stupid shit.
>>547330793you are talking to a braindead reddit/twitter zoomer don't try
>>547330710except seasons literally don't allow you to use old decks retardbrother
>>547325385>So you can further immerse yourself in the darker atmosphere of the game>dark atmosphere of the game>dark atmosphere what the fuck is "dark" about this game besides the ham fisted "Santy" system thats fixed with a 15 second chat and the non-cannon censored 2 second death animation that happens to the little chibi guys?
You guys won't believe it
>>547331003This is what faggots seething at people asking to build decks faster don't seem to understand.Nobody wants to redo the same decks over and over and over and over and over and over again every single fucking season when it takes literal hours to make ONE.Either let us use old decks or speed up the grind.
>>547330793This, the problem is that so many other epiphanies are just clearly and in some cases vastly inferior to others. They should be brought up to be viable builds and alternatives
>>547331129god I want to bury my face into yuki's yukis so much...
This game sucks. Underbaked and buggy PoS.
>muh optimum buildDamn so many tryhard niggas hereI've yet to see an epiphany that will brick a character if you didnt pick them. Granted I don't play Hugo
Are we winning?
>>547331110Lots of the enemy designs are spooky
>>547331190This but I want to eat her ass
>>547331203That's your emulator anon
>>547330714Let see those improvements first.
>>547331259we are still grinding the same shit chaos for months
>>547330378I honestly just assumed this game had animation skip but I never actually checked because I hadn't grown bored of the animations yet.
>>547331259Yes
>leave the interior tunnel>LGBT elite blocks the only way>oh fuck, I hope the tag isn't too bad>Plague>menu -> escape -> confirm
>>547330072Single target is getting buffed, multi-target is already working as intended.
>>547331492>bitching about PlagueYour Mika?
>>547331294This but with Hugo
>>547331589>MikaYou didn't beat the game.
>>547331003Seasons also dont require you to use god decks, I cleared Crab 9 with a subpar deck, and any further grinding is for eventual leaderboard autists who wants to clear it in 1 turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dx62ZU8jgw
WHEN NARJA
>can only +5 TWO gold equips per shop???
Creators get, what is this, $100 worth of free gibs for making bideos? I wonder how frequently they get this.
Casuals ruins games.Just like they did with ZZZ.Now ZZZ is a flop, held up only by Hoyo name and super glue.CZN EOS soon.
>>547331849Morimens does "Strange lovecraft cardgame" so much better then CNZ its not even funny. I wish Morimens had a deckbuilding mode though
>/mhy/sissy
>>547331953>$100 to not even guarantee a 5*grim
>>547331953If I made bideos would you guys watch so I can get gibs?
come polish my knob morisissyyou want me to play your game right? open wide
>>547332125no fuck off
Just finished lvling my main teams to 55,realistically, if I want to build another character how long would it take? 1-60, decent potential(not maxed), and usable memories.
>>547331528>Single target is getting buffedReally?
>>547331984>barefoot cunnyThis but in CZN when...
>>547331714Just because I don't need to have a deck with quintuple god epis with 4 copies doesn't mean I enjoy seeing Rei's snack not get the void search + void buff epiphanies 10 times in a row when I'm trying to make her a void support deck
>>547332194Yes, but from what they said she's still going to be worse than characters like Kayron and Mei at single target but she'll probably be better in chaos.
>>547331714post your subpar decks that cleared carb 9
>>547331849>Morimens
Rei banner when
You did it faggots, go level some units
>>547332334Grim…
How do you clear chaos with Yuki? I keep getting walled at bosses. Do I just need to have a team of Yuki, Mika, and a real character like Kayron or Tressa that can carry her? I already tried LIGHTNING DINGO but he didn't feel like enough single target.
>ST build>E1 Yuki is uselessepic
can someone help me here?im at heart of the ore vein before the final boss. tier 81. mutant was conversion of basic shield, i removed rapid slash. do i have enough points to copy something?2. do i want to get chimerite/pray for the draw armor from boss?
>>547332356But the game is too ez now.Soon even the bosses will be ez and skippable.EoS soon. Game won't live to see year 2.
>>547332217faster!
>>547332454e1 was always a retarded dupe, it should've been a buff/change to freezing blade
I want a game that's Kaizo Mario hard. I guess this game isn't for me anymore.
>>547332473>Morimens OUT OF NOWHERE
Fuck I have an E4 Yuki now. Wtf let me lose a 50/50 for once...
>>547332469https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
>>547332507
Does this game have feet?
>>547332720no this game is not roonfriendly i'm afraid
>>547332426Morimens dev have a weird romantic relationship with the idea of death after their near EOS. It's not just the story but the devs started treating it like a sacred thing. Even as so far as to collab with ONLY EOS games so they will not be forgotten
What is Morimens?
>>547332469You can copy all of your base cards but not the rat.The gun is good enough, just get copy.
>>547332693>>547332839thank you, what card should i copy? is it just another prepare to subdue?
>>547332808Hot Topic CZN
>>547332808CZN's hyperautistic older brother
>>547332720No, not a single girl has her feet visibleI hate it
>>547332981>Hot TopicAnd what is "hot topic"?
>>547332937Yeah, getting Subdue to draw is still the most important part because of Yuki’s gimmick. And you can’t grab another copy at the boss node, since that would push you over the 100-point cap.
>>547332318>post your subpar decks that cleared carb 9NTA but had to restart a few times to beat because i didn’t want to grind
so yuki is getting a single target buff, which is weird since her single target damage isnt bad if built for it. people saying she doesn't do a lot of aoe damage which also isn't true too. no idea how they will buff her, but i cleared all the content with her before it happened so who's the true lover here?
>>547332937disregard that question, i didnt realize copy was random
>>547333072
>>547332808The other lovecraft based roguelike deck builder gacha phone game, so its not uncommon but its strange that it happened twice...also better cunny by FAR
>>547333164I don't get it.
>>547333103>but i cleared all the content with her before it happened so who's the true lover here?That's not saying much. I've seen damn near every unit kill the crab. I think only one I haven't seen kill the crab at this point is Maribell.
>>547333103>but i cleared all the content with her before it happenedWhat teams did you use in chaos?
>>547333253Holy fuck how zoomer are you? It's a fashion store for goths, punks, and dark-edgy chuunis
>>547333317yuki rei veronica
>>547332318Here, no copy, just the right epiphanies and 1 forbidden cardInb4 Mei Lin doesnt count
>>547333253>>547333341If he doesn't know what Hot Topic is, he's either turbo underage, like literally 12 years old, or his country doesn't have them.
>>547333419We don't have Hot Topic here.We have goths tho.
>>547333241
Complaining work after all, apologist bitches should stay quiet
guys, I’ve got a crazy idea : dev should let ALL players use upcoming combatants for FREE, for about two weeks before their banner drops.you’d get them as if you actually owned them. you can run chaos, build decks, do whatever content you want with them. they show up as E6, and their level matches your highest combatant. you just can’t upgrade them.After two weeks, they disappear and their banner goes up.If you roll them, all your saved data comes back with them. you just need to level them up as usual. this will:1. let people try the combatants before rolling. If someone get a good deck, they might actually pull even if they initially don't want to.2. easy balancing. their internal testers suck, players do it better. Buffs/nerfs are fine when nobody has paid yet.3. it would be fun.I wasn't a gacha player so idk if this will cause big problems or not. what do you guys think?
ok, they got another 15 from me with this update
>>547332749Any kids?
>>547333079thank you, happy with the deck
>morimens discussionsweet
more like Manymenz lmao
>>547333636go back to your stinky general
Who are you getting for the next BP?
>>547333636Retarded character design
>>547333549People would stop spending money as a result, which is still the developers’ main goal.
What do you think bros? I wanted the Move 2 and all but I know the Draw 2 specify of her own cards and I got both it and the Minus 1 cost cloned so this offsets the RNG a bit.It sucks that I don’t have any control over when Divine Epiphanies land or when I get to choose a card to clone. This is basically yhe best build I made in days because I got the Draw 2 and Minus 1 cloned.
>>547333763The cheeky brat turns me on.
>>547333501get good
>>547332839wtf which calculator is this
>>547333763If the retain shield buff lasts indefinitely then that one for sure
If the game is going into casual territory they should just remove all gameplay and turn it into a slot machine that says "you win" with every pull of the crank and you give you a link to a gelbooru or pixiv page of a hot anime girl.
>>547333493>devs giving us a peek at her assAlmost enough to make me play your game
>>547333849https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
>>547333805>didn't get the move 2Into the trash it goes. Always get and dupe the move skill.
>>547332194We are not Limbus Company players we READ in this general!
>>547325438They'll be refunding the difference to people who already have a bunch of levels 60s right? RIGHT?
>this much seething over people being able to play the units they pullis every general like this?
>>547334014gachafags are mentally illyes
>>547334014noYes
>>547334095this is the only one I play so I wouldn't knowthanks
>>547334014There are some weird people in this general who genuinely think the devs listening to feedback will ruin the game. I still haven’t seen a single bad change.
>>547334014
>Get entire roster to 60>Now i can farm memory frags and potential frags in peaceThanks gookCHADS
>>547332356>lower unit costs>but you still need the same amount of exp items>no potential cost reductionIt's still shit, you'll never build more than 2 teams.
>>547334221generally just worried cause sometimes listening too much can cause your game to fail too. just hope they don't listen to everything.
Betting $20 anyone praising the casual-zoning of the game won't be here next year.
So how long till patch?
>>547334004Yes my sweet summer child
>>547333903>The cowards on the wiki did not upload the chapter final image (that you can use as your home screen) that shows off half her ass from behind
I should dump all my credits on leveling right?
>>5473343711.5 weeks
>>547334221Gonna require steroid tortanic fuck up to make it worse when it already in bad state
When's the Chizuru drip marketing? Yuki's fat tits are literally killing this game.
>>547334349See you next year, faggot.
Thoughts?
the game is actually not finished but they launched anyways
>>547334532this but stella sora
>>547334532There's not a single gacha game that is "finished"
>>547334532They release unfinished so they can have dev listened moment
>>547334221Players are bad at making games, so listening to them too much will mean they make a bad game.
we need pvp in czn like brown dust 2. theres no point in playing the game if the content is solved. but pvp is forever. think cs2 or league
>>547333317he used brainwash
>>547334532name one gacha that released finished
>>547334658Players are good at noticing issues. Player are bad at making suggestions on how to fix them. But listening to player feedback is important and the way solutions are implemented is up to the developers.
>>547334659>Pvp>Use Amir with Iron Skin copied to oblivion >Fuck over the enemy fag while you take 0 (ZERO) damage every turn
>>547334776Chaos Zero Nightmare
>>547334659agreeinstead of the casualizing this game they should add other content
>>547334659Of all the games you had to mention the one where pvp is about as irrelevant as it gets lmao
>>547334659your game is just a lewd collector. the story hasn't been good ever since they went that route and the people still playing the game told the devs they legit don't play the content
>>547334531looks like a very average deck
>>547334618Dragalia...Lost
>make your life easier = casualize
sexxo
>>547334014I haven't checked the thread for a couple of days and came to see how people are reacting.Is there actually really a group of people that are upset with level 60 units being cheaper?
>>547334457Man that sucks, wanted the unit cost changes now...
>>547334921>legit don't play the contentLike Nikke players.
wasnt epic7 just a pvp game
have we learned if the discount is to PROMOTION or LEVELING costs yet? it sounds like leveling but I really don't want it to be
>>547335068yes it is
>>547334659>Pulls up with my 5x maneuvering fire with 2 Mark
>>547334825finished... as in DONE
>>547335012just the usual mentally ills trying to stir up drama
Bros, we need them to increase the units costs and fuck up the translation again or else the game is doomed...
>>547335068>wasnt epic7 just a pvp gameNot initially. But now it's solely fueled by sunk cost fallacy pvp tards like summoners war only less successful.
more like chaos zero content
>>547335169Chaos Zero Nightmare
>>547335068>checks epic7 stream on twitch>it’s just the streamer watching the PvP session, laughing and getting mad over it.>somehow 500-1000 viewersGacha players and viewers are mentally ill
>Let's buff Yuki, who is frankly only shit in the hands of retards>Let's ignore the agents who actually are doing badlyI fucking hate sensationalist so much
>>547335452True, who should we buff anon?
>>547335452They are fearing a second coming of Luke
>>547334921>since they went that route I am sick of hearing this unironic reddit propaganda everywhere.The game was just a lewd collector from day one, and the story was pretty shit from day one as well.It became even more shit when they killed chad Lathel and replaced him with his onions version but that has literally nothing to do with the lewd elements of the game that again were there from the very start.For some reason redditors like you like to pretend this game went the snowbreak route or something when that was never the case.
this guy is view botting right
>>547335000Rape
>>547335552Luuuke
>>547335552whos mervin
>>547335552>with the changes I can finally finish levelling my e1 lukeI'm doing nothing and I keep winning
>>547335676this absolute faggot leech couldn't even reach 300 viewers in E7 when he was on his own. Lacari is the one hard-carrying his faggot ass
>>547334659Brown dust 2 is just a reference for the horny stuffFor example they should add that summer slap event in CZN
yup, you guessed it>IKE RAIKONINGU DINGO
>>547335676no, he gained a lot of viewers with CZNthe game is very popular, despite what you would think reading this thread
>>547330714Are the partners good now?Are f2p partners really keeping me from playing the game?
>>547334659>your turn>deal dmg>end turn>enemy 1 turn you with Mei Lin / Veronica / Niano thanks
>>547335659you're hearing that because it wasn't as blatant as it is now ever since they said they were removing males from their game retard kun
>>547336194>>547336194>>547336194
nyo...
We can't get players with furry OPs... I'm sorry Hugo-san, please fall in line
>>547334659>E7 pvp hell with not only GEAR RNG but DECK RNGgod please no
>>547334659Ventilate your skull at the nearest convenient moment
>>547335676hes been stealing devs listened guys viewership
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