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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>547311646

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xngtneuz

>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming Banner
Yuki - Striker - Order | Until December 3rd

>Current Events/Upcoming Content
Galactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Until January 13th 2026
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>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the First Update: https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11209203

>Galactic Disaster Content Improvement Update Notice
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11261625

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.
https://rentry.co/cznsavedata
https://czn-calc.vercel.app/
https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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so where I spend all the gold I farmed now?
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>>547337756
on future characters
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Selena sucks
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So what do I do now? Do I pull for Yuki? I was actually kind glad she was shit because I didn't like her all that much despite the sex appeal cause I don't really like the chink aesthetic.
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>>547337650
SEEEEEX
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>>547337851
My dick, yes.
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>>547337949
All in on yukicoin!
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>>547337949
If it makes you feel any better Yuki is probably the most fun combatant in the game RN
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>>547337949
Nah she is still dogshit, the buffs might take months and they plan to shill her in a pro-order chaos event to tide people over
Her fundamental kit like her ego skill and damage modifiers on the ice slash are just too low
If SG was smart they would give her like 10-20% buffs across the board and make her first ego +20% instead of remove -20% to shut people up
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>>547337949
Hard to tell desu. I don't think transforming her into a single-target DPS is what she needed.
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>Doompostniggery
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UCHI NI- BATTOU
UCHI NO- BATTOU
CHANTO MITENASAI
BATTOU
AHAHAHAHA
BATTOU
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>>547339081
>falling for the devs corpo talk
They literally are making content she gets a buff in to make you faggots shut up about your brick, until her supposed """buff""" which won't do shit to fix her kit lol
Going to be funny to see her shilled content being done faster with every other unit in the game just like current basin
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>>547339643
Have you actually played her, or do you just shit on her because you have a problem with tits?
She's fucking fine. You have an issue and it's fucking baffling.
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>woke up
>more gibs
Another NTR drama?
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>>547343059
Just use the other thread. The general's gone to complete shit and they will use an unironic furfaggot thread. I don't care about this place anymore.
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>>547337949
>>547338863
QRD? I just woke up.
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>>547343579
The devs announced that they are "buffing" Yuki. They said they will alter her least used epiphanies into single-target so you will be able to build her as an ST DPS. How good that will be is anyone's guess.
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>>547339868
Shes usable but bad anon
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>>547353393
she's not bad just not amazing
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>>547368375
I mean she's pretty bad, Owen can arguably do her job better and more consistently without double supports.
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After some good pulls I'm no longer male'd my account looks better who should be my second team?
I'm already running Mika, Hugo, and Tressa for one.
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so we won? devs listened?
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UCHIMASU out of ten
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>>547372349
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KOWALSKI KUN DON'T LOOK
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what team should I build
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Can we save the free ego for a limited 5 star or do we have to use it within the event?
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Are we using this one?
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>>547372538
roll for veronica, mei lin + veronica + nia
tressa + cassius + mika/hugo
beryl + khalipe + mika
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>>547369207
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>>547372349
is this sloppa
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>>547373031
kek
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>>547372538
I'm also a Veronicalet on one of my accounts and it feels really fucking bad. I have very good dupes on the account without Veronica, otherwise I'd drop it. Not having Veronica is really such a game changer.
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>>547373031
Hurting your feelings over made up scenarios?
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>>547372349
this scares the hagshitters
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HIMAWARI NO TANE!!!! :D
KURERUN DESU KA?????!!!! :DDDDDD
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this thread is ass
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>>547372349
uooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh
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>gears going well
>epis rolling good
>copies proccing on core cards
>last monster node of the map
>
fuck gook devs, that is all
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Which Owen's card is better? +1 hit to his next attack card and retrieve keyword, or +1 hit to the next attack card used but with -25% damage?
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I just hit level 50. Is it better to use 60 stamina on memory frag farming or for Chaos reward loots? What's the best use of stamina here?
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How much of the rewards do I miss out on if I go full baby casual mode?
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>>547374295
I love how they're not even void enemies, just the classic overtuned passionslop that shouldn't even be in this chaos.
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Well I just quit shadowverse so this is the only card game I am currently playing I guess. I am really hoping this will be one of the few gachas I keep playing to some extent for a while.
So far somehow Brown Dust 2 was the one that lasted the most, probably because of how little time it requires for you to do the bare minimum for keeping up.
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>>547374834
You mean if you refuse to clear hard mode battle missions and basin? Quite a lot, actually.
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I want to stop being a shitter. How do I build the Tressa Cassius team?
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>Literally one of the best and most unique gacha character designs we've seen in decades.
>Some rich girl with two badass alpha stud bodyguards.
>A strong woman who doesn't take shit from any man.
>Elegant and beautiful design that speaks volumes even with such a simple and clean design.
>None of them are playable
WHY THE FUCK did they think it was a good idea to make "partners", it should've been a weapon system like every other gacha. They'll end up throwing away hundreds of good designs this way.
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Retrieve keyword activates only once, yes?
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>>547374834
So far this game has done a good job really minimizing the FOMO elements. There was only Haru's sticker that you could get by just clearing her trial and trauma mode and even most of the stickers in this event are obtained by just completing the story. The crab doesn't give anything but some resources you can miss without worrying too much.
The new game mode that will unlock with the second part of this season will have some stickers that correspond with how far you clear the mode, we will have to see how hard they are to actually get though.
FOMO bullishit like this is why I quit games so hopeful you will be able to get all of them pretty easily with harder levels only providing some more resources that again you can miss without worrying too much.
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>>547375206
>Some rich girl with two badass alpha stud bodyguards.
>Girl
Bro she's literally a married woman
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>>547375232
They can have a number attached representing the number of uses. Like Retrieve 4, or Exhaust 2
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>>547375206
>Literally one of the best and most unique gacha character designs we've seen in decades.
I am going to be real with you for a second anon, all four of these are very unexceptional and quite generic.
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>>547375206
lmao
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>>547375654
>Married CEO woman
>Bodyguard(s)
She's a reference to the huge ongoing Korean NTR doujinshi where the body guard fucks the CEO, her daughters, etc, isn't she? lmao
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>>547375206
post your employee card
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>>547376287
...no
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>>547374794
Bumpyasayoo
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>>547376696
I knew a Korean girl who would say
>[thing] juseyo
and I thought it was really cute.

Anyway, I think Chaos can only drop 4/5/6 pieces, so you'll need to either farm or create the 1/2/3 pieces anyway.
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>>547374794
I think that at max level they basically offer the same quality and amount. The good thing about the chaos ones is that you can get combinations with only sets that you want.
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>>547375206
based
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>>547377087
I dated a Korean girl anon it was kino and very recommended.

Is there no reason to use stamina for chaos rewards then?
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Does Yuki's E4 work based on her own draws, or whenever anyone on her team draws a Yuki card?
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>>547377310
Thank you anon!
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>>547377362
>Is there no reason to use stamina for chaos rewards then?
The benefit of using stamina on Chaos is that you can see your rewards. If you're farming artifacts with Stamina, it's just a random grab bag. With Chaos, you still can't see which stats you rolled, but you can at least see which piece you rolled, which can be beneficial, especially if you have like a pretty good set but you're missing good mainstats or substats on one particular artifact slot, you can just buy all the Chaos loot that has the artifact + slot you're looking for.
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>divine epiphany
>4 agony to the target
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>>547372349
Actually massive improvement for her design.
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>>547377060
Rin because she was my highest leveled DPS. And only one that broke the level 50. But all the hand clogging and discards fuck up her combos. I assume the same would apply if I went with Renoa.
I don’t have Mei Lin
My Luke is E0
My Tressa is underleveled and so is Hugo.
So if I need a new strategy I need a surefire way to make it count sinc eI’m poor in mats. Would take days to prepare 2 units (assuming Mika stays)
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>rewind turn
>black screen
owari da
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>>547377087
only on chaos
you just craft 1/2/3 pieces, they always have the same mainstat
you want 4/5/6 pieces, and being able to get specific ones you want and know ahead of time is good (or if you just take random, you still get more in chaos)
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>>547372834
>beryl + khalipe + mika
Nta but I'm trying to make this team work right now and I'm not sure how to build Beryl for it. I've been playing Khalipe + Magna for a while and that feels much better.
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>>547377639
When you get 3 legendary rewards from chaos at the beginning you should be getting them whether you need them or not. You want them to dismantle to make 1-3 slot legendaries. Otherwise you have to waste stamina to get 1-3 legendaries.
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>>547376287
the evidence keeps stacking up bros...
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Hello, crab cheese strat?
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she's so cute let me kiss her man
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>>547376287
...no? have you ever seen any "SUPER MEGA IMPORTANT VIP WOMAN" with bodyguards before? its a classic trope
but I guess koreancels would've thrown a fit if she was playable yeah kek
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>>547378371
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>>547378457
Its called use Mei Rin
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I hate Mei Lin the master ball sucker
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>>547378695
I don’t *have* this chink that sniffed me!
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>>547378107
Get rid of Beryl's shield and 1 cost launcher and pick up Shock and Aimed Shot.
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>>547378923
>walks up
>returns your cat
>sniffs you
>doesn't elaborate
>leaves
What did she mean by this? Any why doesn't may cafe have any cats anymore if she returned them?
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>>547378531
She really is. I didn't expect her to be so cute. I thought she would be one of those aggressive tomboys but she's like a fucking puppy.
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>>547379520
wrong pic
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>>547378540
Just curious, at what point would it cross the line for you where it's like "Okay, yea it could be a reference"?
Same hair color? Same dress? Or would it literally have to take the director coming out and stating it?
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>>547379695
0 cost has to be good right?
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My Yuki is actually a hard hitting ST cause her flash strike got the noxious epiphany that has retain that hits for a lot so I won
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>>547379695
0 cost read good
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>>547379520
average cznGOD
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holy SEXO
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>>547379743
>>547379793
better than nothing
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>>547373031
I'm white so I don't get it
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>>547379705
Schizophrenia

I have no real answer to give you because this is the same as "at what point it stops being a homage and becomes idea theft?" argument which also has no real answer
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>>547379978
yeah yours is even smaller
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Mei Lin has a sweet smelling anus
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>>547378107
what you do is go for extra dmg and get that upgrade where if you retain beryl's cards, you do 150% dmg to a random enemy - get three of these, play them all, get a lot of beryl retain cards (khalipe helps here with shields and she can give all of the cards in your hand retain for 0) and mika is there for some card draw if you get the bag card and some nice AP and healing to setup
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>>547379861
Don't fall for it anon
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>>547380181
Diabetes?
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>>547379770
Yuki problem is that she needs to much effort, while others character exist that does as well for much less. Once you max her out with good memory fragments, she will do 2k-4k per mob which is very good.
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Who's the best vulnerable bot in the game?
I need someone whose only purpose is to spam Vulnerable and not interfere too much while Haru smashes things with her big anchor.
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>>547380073
Stop self reporting Asia anon
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these fuckers are impossible
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>convert 3 basics into 3 rare neutrals
Damn, dont mind if I do, please hit the right epiphany Orlea
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>>547380472
how? your team should deal with them easily
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>>547380445
Orlea is the best vulnerable bot in the game.
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>>547380445
you posted her
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>>547380445
I think its magna but you need a really good deck for her
With Orlea is easier to make a vulnerability deck but its not ready to use immediately most of the time
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*blocks your path*
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>>547380445
amir and i am not joking
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>>547380625
..if you get lucky once in over 50 runs
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>>547380340
but her equip is pretty good....
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>>547380445
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Taking suggestions on who to use my normal character selector for.
Game apparently loves giving Kelpie dupes which is totally fine by me.
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>>547380762
He only asked for the best not the easiest.
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>>547380809
Mei! Lin!
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>>547380809
Mei Lin or Orlea
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I WANT ME REFUNDS NOW
YOU HEAR ME?
NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
I wanna build my yuki...
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>>547381068
did they confirm we are getting something ?
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>>547381158
Yeah the money to level is being reduced by 80% and they are giving us refunds.
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no way this is saving lol
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buy this thing, you'll need a lot of them down the line, trust me..
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>>547381336
holy fuck if real im about to get like 1mil
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>>547380965
Yeahh that's who I was leaning towards
>>547381051
HOLY thighs
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>>547381520
I think the post said dec 3rd
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>>547381068
its not even much bro
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Can't stop thinking about Yuki
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tarinai na
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>>547381972
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>>547337650
Holy SHIT, the incident wiki for this game is massive:
https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EC%B9%B4%EC%98%A4%EC%8A%A4%20%EC%A0%9C%EB%A1%9C%20%EB%82%98%EC%9D%B4%ED%8A%B8%EB%A9%94%EC%96%B4/%EB%85%BC%EB%9E%80%20%EB%B0%8F%20%EC%82%AC%EA%B1%B4%20%EC%82%AC%EA%B3%A0

I lost it at the "N-incident". A fairly interesting read into the head of mindbroken koreans.
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>>547382602
Get pregnant Yuki
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>>547382782
yooooooooooooooooooooo that's actually hilarious
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what did she mean by this
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>>547382782
>4.6. Yuki Counseling Story Onion Scene Controversy
>In the counseling story of the new character Yuki, which was released in an update on November 12, the captain, who was undergoing trauma counseling, put a raw onion in Yuki's mouth to prevent Yuki's strange behavior, and when Yuki spit the onion out, he ate it, which was the peak of bizarreness, and became a problem.
>The problem with that scene is as follows [...]
>Naturally, as soon as this story spread, disgusted reactions erupted from various communities.
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>>547382782
no...........
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>>547382974
Am I missing something? I hate this card. I always remove it from my deck.
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>>547382782
Wtf am I reading, do they even have a problem with Khalipe eating your arm?
If that shit gets changed because of them I am rioting.
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Talk me out of rolling Yuki
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>marked as the tunnel
>enter it
>it was echoing canyon
Huh????
The before one was a treasure trove event and the one after was a mouthful too, could it be that those rare events blocked/removed the tunnel?
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>>547383362
I think you're missing IQ.
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>>547380597
i forgot to put memofrags on haru.................
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Help bros I've never seen this one before.
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How is Lucas? I have rolled him seven times in a row and I need to cope.
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>>547383274
no, that's just a retarded thing to do. why the fuck would you write that
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>>547383470
She is dogshit as far as meta goes.
She gets compared to Amir damage wise, and Amir is considered one of the worst if not the worst character in the game. She is also not even a damage dealer inherently.
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>>547383538
Instead of throwing around needless insults, why don't you give an explanation as to what makes it good?
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so we are getting way more units and thats great and all but how the hell do I farm the xp tickets faster? I'm super out of those after getting like two characters to 60
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>>547383648
GREED
VOID
SALVATION
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>>547383648
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/encounters
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>>547383686
>Amir is considered one of the worst if not the worst character in the game
Objection. Amir is considered the worst character in the game by prydwen, which means she's actually one of the best. Those niggers have never been right about anything.
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>>547383675
I agree, but I still can't take the entry seriously.
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Honestly, pretty good damage build. I was testing on some lead setups for the forbidden but I forgot nexus doesn't proc on card draw. I would probably try to replicate it with an Aggressive Mutant setup instead. Also I got Iron Fist at the 2nd to the last node and it feels better if it didn't show up
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>>547383703
Bro it gives you dmg immunity for 1 turn in a game that has normal enemies that do 80% of your hp.
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>>547383993
They put Veronica in T0. Are they wrong about that?
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>>547379514
he stole them all
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>>547383686
Fuck....
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>>547384221
Yeah she's T-1.
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>>547384110
Cute, I wish I got her
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>>547383686
the worst is maribell bar none, actually worthless with no redeeming qualities other than a high profile VA
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>>547384641
don't forget her affection screen
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>Level 38
>All Battle Missions (normal and hard) done
>All story missions done
>All even story and battle missions (except the level 49 one) done
Now what?
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FUCK CRAB 9
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>>547383675
Wasn't that a "shock" option? I remember that consoling scene but dont remember he captain eating it.
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my acc is cursed, no way all the Hugos and 0 Renoa or Vero
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KAOS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cPoXgPcQOU
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>>547384695
First-time Chaos explorations at a certain tier give XP. Or spend stamina rocks.
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left or right
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>>547384695
spend all of your stamina pots, refresh 4x a day until 50, do all of your account missions, get first clear bonus for any chaos manifestation difficulty you haven't yet
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Do I buy Digimon or more limited rolls
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>>547385056
>>547385132
What's the best thing to burn stamina on?
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Now what
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>>547382782
>massive

lol is this your first korean gacha?
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>>547385363
Baby making sex with Yuki
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Not a bad rei deck honestly, I'm happy with how it turned out. Should be decent for el crabbo bossfight.
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Finally
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>>547383327
downgrade. shame
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Which epiphanies do I seek to turn my Luke into T0?
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>>547385686
first worry about his dupes
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>>547385331
if you have unlimited free time to play then zero difficulty 9/10 bosses for the three orange fragments is the most ap efficient thing you can do until everything unlocks at 50
if not then just work on your potentials, uncap and level the characters you want to stick with
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>>547385095
right i think
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hehehe ureshi degozaimasu
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>>547385686
First, you get e2 at the minimum, though e4 is preferred.
Then you get the 5* Partner, Janet.
Then you pump crit up as much as you can without sacrificing too much attack.
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>>547385686
The objectively absolute best you could ever possibly hope for is getting the retrieve epiphany on rapid fire with a divine epiphany of "-1 cost" and copying that a few times. That with a damage up epiphany on dance of the demon make him a killing spree god.
Of course he's only fully realized if you have him on E2 and have at least 50% crit rate and as high of crit damage stat as you possibly can.
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I lost Yuki 50/50 and got Rin...
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>>547385941
>degozaimasu
Isn't this just a more modern version of talking like Kenshin?
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>>547382152
i hate this pay2win game so fucking much
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>>547385095
3 fricken morale
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>>547386126
You won! No you have a guarantee for a good unity.
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>>547386126
avoided the brick
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>>547386126
Rin is better, both functionally and visually.
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>>547386126
ooooof, they're about to powercreep rin with the yukibuffs too
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>>547382152
absolutely fucking destroyed those money pinatas bro
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>>547386334
Stop it aieeeee
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https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239
Wow really satisfied with everything
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>>547386334
You mean the epiphany changes that are going to make Yuki into a discount Rin in attempt to unbrick her?
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WHERE ARE THE ORANGE SUMMONS ITS BEEN DAYS
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I thought all my saves were deleted from the update a few weeks ago... so I did the old chaos for new ones...
But its just that I cant use old saves on the crab...
I just wasted an hour bwos... bweh
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>>547386639
all gone
did you level everyone to 20
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>>547386416
thanks bro, im just having tons of fun with my new partner
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>>547382152
I wish I liked the playstyle of Kayron (or Renoa) where they shit up your deck with a million cards. His SFX are so cool and chunky.
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https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239?boardKey=139239&combined=false
credit cost for levelling down 80% refunded retroactively new currency from running chaos to incentivize farming and faint memory costs built into the game UI so you can check the current/cap in each run.
gosh its like year 1 e7 all over again as long as they don't fuck it up.
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>>547386874
The Faint Memory costs being in-game is pointless unless they also tell you how they increase when you make a choice
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>>547385869
>zero difficulty 9/10 bosses for the three orange fragments
I don't know what this is.
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>>547385749
>>547386035
You don't need dupes or a 5* partner.
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>>547383419
holy schizo
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>>547387075
POST SAVE DAAAATAAAAA
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>>547386867
his best playstyle is exhausting them immediately so they don't get reshuffled into the deck, you can do it with the skill epi of oath
as for renoa, i don't have her but i couldn't get a hang of her playstyle either in her TC
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>>547386639
don't you have like 30k crystals? were you saving them for something? gibs are over breh
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On the topic of Luke, I wish i could bring this to crab. Zero system is way more fun though.
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Post monster cards that actually found use.
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Bwos...? How do we feel about this?
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>>547387398
Well definitely not this one, in this team
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>>547387397
Forgot the image lol.
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BATTOU
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>>547387592
Your Mika looks strange, anon.
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>>547387403
Would've been great if you didn't brick it with the drawing slash. Still should be good for those event bosses.
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>>547387064
you unlock the zero system at account level 40, it's expanded chaos that scales indefinitely as you go on win streaks through it
honestly don't worry about it, just focus on the missions like "level x characters to 40" for now, don't get baited into farming memory fragment simulations at low level (aside from the mission telling you to run them 12 times) and anything else you do should be decent progress
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>>547387398
>>547387592
they really should buff those cards to make them worth 80, would allow a lot of cool playstyles
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>>547387939
They have good epiphanies too, But so far, those epiphanies never saved.
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>>547387881
The guy that cleared 9/9 Crab with Rin runs that one. I was also getting 2-4k crits mid Chaos run. It's pretty nasty.
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>>547386330
>An unordinary girl longing to be ordinary
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>>547387632
The braps must be earth shattering...
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>>547388125
epi on monster is +10, or +30 if divine, so it's hard to keep them if you want to remove your basics too
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>>547388250
It's mostly about the coord attack bricking your vuln stacks.
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>>547387064
NTA. Don't do Zero, the event works similarly but doesn't cost units to run. When you get to account level 40, try to push higher difficulties on the event chaos. Eventually the floor boss kill reward(that thing you get four per week for free) will start providing 3 gold memory fragments(hoyoslop gear). When you run out of your weekly freebies you can instead spend 60 stamina to continue collecting those rewards. This is the best bang for your buck at lower levels. The downside being that spending stamina requires doing chaos runs instead of quick simulation fights. Hence that other anon saying you need a lot of free time to do this.
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>>547387632
>>547388354
>BRAPTOU
>UCHI NO BRAP
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>>547387632
Where's the mole ffs
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>>547387927
>>547388814
Okay, thanks. Guess I'll just grind chaos until I 40 then.
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>>547389165
That wasn't a mole...
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playable when?
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>>547387403
This looks like a really great deck
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fun deck with nia but so unpractical :( shame takes too much ramp up
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Yuki has a mole on her pussy
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>Wanna play Yuki in the event
>Constant spam of passion solo fights in the interior
Why did they even release her? Why isn't she passion or void then? Did the devs even test their event? What?
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>>547388805
Yeah that's really sucks... I'm doing mem frag runs anyway so I'm sure I'll get another good deck. I wanted a Forbidden Card anyhow...
>>547389524
Thanks but it could be better!
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>>547387403
if I could afford to build my E1 rin I'd comment.
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>>547389665
>Too much ramp up
That's Lucas+Selena+Mika deck. They need like 7 upgrades to play before you can play your hand and watch the fireworks.
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>>547389824
Why do you want to play her on a Nihilum planet? She's buffed in basin and much better for forest.
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VERONICA TOP 1!!!!!!!!!! BEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME
SHAPER OF METAS
DESTROYER OF TOP TIERS
OBLITERATOR OF CONTENT

VERONICA THE TOP TIER INFINITE CARD DRAW POTENTIAL SINGLE TARGET AOE DAMAGE 0 AP COST COCK AND BALLS INSIDE EVERYONE'S ASS VERONICA IS HERE AND SHE'S HERE TO FUCK MONO GAME MONO CHARACTER 100% USAGE IN EVERY TEAM

VERONICA THE GOD TIER VERONICA THE MERLIN VERONICA THE KITASAN BLACK VERONICA THE BENNETT VERONICA THE CASTORICE VERONICA THE SILVERASH

CHADCHADCHADNICA THE MASTER OF CHAOS ZERO NIGHTMARE
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>>547390048
Not that anon, but all the good equipment for her are in laboratory 0
Though I would argue the trumpet you can find in chaos 5 is also good for her
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>>547390173
Not good vs Soul Collector
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>>547389826
I actually don't think the forbidden card is good on Rin. I had it in couple runs, but it often just clogs your hand until you no longer need it. But I also usually run Rin with Orlea, so hand space is important. Maybe it'd be good in that leaderboard mode though, since it's a longer fight and you might get more value out of it.
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So the captian has the smallest dick in the game but which character has the largest dick?
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>>547390173
>THE MERLIN VERONICA THE KITASAN BLACK VERONICA THE BENNETT VERONICA THE CASTORICE VERONICA THE SILVERASH
I don't understand any of these references.
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>>547390048
>She's buffed in basin
yeah nobody wants to pull a character solely for basin, and no one wants a character who will fall off with the next modifier
>much better for forest.
Not much reason to assemble a build without her best items. I have been running her there for fun, of course.
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Tragic copy options and missing main card epiphanies. When are they going to fix all your cards not upgrading on a Tier 14.
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>>547378457
Beryl extra attack opening found. Go get 2-3 and as many of the common card: hidden bullet you can fit in her savedata. Beats judas 10 and crab 9 for jusg ending turn.
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>>547387403
>2AP Drawing Slash
Is that a brick? Even the base card + random bonus seems better
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>>547390461
Nono
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>>547390173
>VERONICA THE GOD TIER VERONICA THE MERLIN VERONICA THE KITASAN BLACK VERONICA THE BENNETT VERONICA THE CASTORICE VERONICA THE SILVERASH
I understood all of these references
Fate, UMA, HSR, and Arknights characters
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anyone else get really excited thinking the build's coming together really well when the big damage numbers start popping and then remember you have the chaos gigabuffs carrying you
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>>547390173
The original post (mine) was about making fun of a shit character, though...
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>Lucas Flamethrower epiphany
>Deals damage but deals extra damage on crit
>First hit doesnt crit
>Still deals the 2nd hit which crits
wat
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>>547390173
>had a draw 2 and reduce the cost of one of the cards by one with the divine epiphany to reduce the cost of the card to 0
>die before I can even get the chance to dupe it because I'm trying to do high level chaos with Bricki
Feels bad man
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>>547387632
More like BUTTOU
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>>547390576
It hits like a truck especially with crit.
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>>547390651
The numbers are a bit inflated but a good draw build or combo is still going to smoke basin
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>>547390564
Post save data
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>>547390576
It's fine. It's strong as fuck and the cost usually isn't a problem. The annihilation epiphany is a brick though.
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>>547390672
the reak question is why are you playing every game i play...
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>>547337949
Everyone who complains I swear they never look at epiphanies to see their potential. They just want something usable out of the box which misses the entire point of this game.
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Yuki is very good in AoE battles and I'm tired of pretending she isn't

You WILL repent when they add bosses which are just 5 random retards you have to AoE down
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>>547385185
Digimon. You can play it when you're out of stamina.
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>>547391672
go on genius, show the class
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I just want a spirit Kefox card is that too much to ask?
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>>547391672
I’m just sensing they’re adding an AoE-only event, and everyone without an upgraded Yuki is going to get omega fucked
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Rin should be buffed
Mei lin should be nerfed.
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>>547391787
>>547391992
ENTER
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>>547390461
canonically, rei
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>>547390672
don't worry man at least be happy you made a jumble of words meme worthy. only you know it wasn't the original intention. Like the Naruto /a/ meme which was intended for Bleach.
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>>547390173
>INFINITE CARD DRAW POTENTIAL
Picrel
Yes I know my gear sucks, this was pre-50
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They just need to make enemies that require you to damage all of them at the same time. Make ST damage deal 50% damage or some shit
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>>547391992
Ianithat the attempt with the crab? he is unfortunately p*ssion
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>>547392064
if mei lin gets nerfed, there will be a shit storm. the trucks WILL be back for it
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>>547392432
even when fights are full of mobs they do shit like the four floating doritos or the mobs for the blue pot inner boss which require you to kill them in order and the rest are invincible kek
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>>547377558
I didn't give you furfaggots permission to recycle my thread.
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>ST enemy
Kayron
>AoE enemies
Kayron
This is Kayron game
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>>547387927
>aside from the mission telling you to run them 12 times
Not him but i havent touched that atball because you're not supposed to farm until max difficulty gets unlocked.
Should i just do the 12 nkw
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>>547392657
Show your lvl 11 clear.
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>>547392657
>doesnt even show creature death animation
k-kino...
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>>547392657
Why is Kayron the only one who gets unique kill animations?! It's not FAIR!!!!
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bros, tell me honestly. if i select e2 luke over e0 mei lin, im self-bricking, yes?
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>>547391992
Yuki will perform worse than single target dpses because her numbers are just that shit, let alone the good aoe damage dealers we have
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>>547392649
>furfags are killing and reviving his threads at their own convenience
>basically a complete bitch to the furhomos
Actually embarrassing
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>>547392886
I'm pretty sure Renoa also does that if the "rose crunch" kills it
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Do i just bring Mei lin with Yuki? Is that what the game wants from me? Holy retarded event.
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>>547393028
Luke can still clear fine at E0-1, it's just that instead of doing it in 0 turns it will take 2-3. But if you want to have him carry you everywhere you can do that. Getting a Mei Lin just for element coverage could never hurt though
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bros how can I see the deep trauma conversations again? the one with Khalipe trying to dom me and take over the ship was insanely hot
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are we really just getting a handful of giant hotfixes as entertainment until the new banner
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the censored versions look better
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Is the new maxed out dupe currency going to be given out for 4* dupes, or is it only 5*s?
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>>547393362
What?
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>>547393335
Is there a gif or video of it?
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Yuki don't leave me....
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>>547393524
the trvke that coomers can't deal with
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>>547393524
>>547393813
maybe on planet retard
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>>547393516
anon, they blew up like 3 months of content for the director's ego rewrite
we're getting literally nothing until next year at a minimum
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>>547393524
>>547393813
What playing homoverse games does to a formerly straight man...
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>>547393813
>>547393524
Nah, looks forced, like a bad edit (that it is)
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>>547393445
Khalipe has some insane fetish shit.
She is trying to usurp you as the leader but what she truly wants is for you to be domineering with her and aggressively put her in her place.
Or how she literally feasts on your flesh and then immediately goes to worrying about any damage she might have caused you.
Ahhhhh I am pretty sure I wasn't such a pervert before this game...
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>>547393879
>>547393897
gooners like (You) are barely human and not worth conversing with
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>>547393362
You aren't supposed to use Yuki.
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Devs claimed that Yuki isn't that bad and doesn't need buffs
Is it true?
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https://youtu.be/O3QAkde5E1M
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looks hotter
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>>547394257
you are false
you are wrong
you are unhelpful
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>>547393524
The fake ones? Yeah they look nice.
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>>547383419
Just support deathcult feminists by donating through their japanese branch that was controlling japanese politics for a decade. It is highly likely that it is exactly that korean feminist cult that Abe was giving funds as well. The reason why he was assassinated was because of a personal grudge and it had to do with the korean church.
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>>547394186
Not a gooner, just a man who isn't a homosexual and has never played a homoverse game.
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>>547394363
Gay
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>clear 1st floor
>shitty dupe
>quit
>rinse and repeat
I'm tired, boss.
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>>547393731
There, no exploding body shown
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>>547394257
No lies detected
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>>547389756
so do i :3
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wife instead of prostitute
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>>547394363
Flagrantly homosexual opinion.
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>>547394385
we got fucking robbed...
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>>547394385
did they really have to nerf her tits
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>>547394257
They are going to change some of her epiphanies so she can become better for non-ST content
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>>547394556
is that the CN version?
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>>547394535
post proofs, retard
if you can't then just accept that she's a brick
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>>547394592
...said the CN playerbase
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>>547394556
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>>547394186
>I-I-I-S THAT SOME CLEAVAGE AND ASS???? I AM GOING INSANE!!!!1
pussy faggot
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>>547394614
changing the weak epiphanies won't do shit.
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gonna agree with that anon that they should release the censored ones as skins for like $5
you really want it? put your money where your mouth is
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>>547394257
The game is really single target focused right now.
Her numbers are fine when you look at 2x targets or insane when you go past 2.
I hope they change some of the freezing blade epiphanies to switch her at least a bit to single target + cleave rather than pure aoe.
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>>547394556
she looks like a believable hottie in this art. what the fuck are smilegooks doing to the global version
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>>547394556
CN looks so bad the high ass pants is so stupid
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>>547394516
>Kayron and Renoa are the main characters
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Toggleable CN art option when?
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>>547394385
imagine being so afraid of a delicious chocobunny, so so afraid that they nerf her huge funbags and cover these thick thighs...
how are bugmen even human at this point?
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>it's been two months
>redditors are still ragebaiting with the CN versions
>retards are still baiting
Maybe I shouldn't have come back here.
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>>547394771
100% of the best decks in the game require an OP epiphany there's not a single one that plays with the base version of the card.
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>gooners leaping out to defend goonerslop at every turn
i'm no moralfag but holy shit you all are addicts. seek treatment
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>>547394882
$20 option
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>547394651
Learn to read stupid
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>>547394556
This oneis an actual improvement.
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Does the 4 set for 1 cost cards work with Renoa's bullets?
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>>547394942
wtf are you talking about. they are not gonna make the weak epiphanies OP.
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>547394960
You see, the problem with this post is that it's try waaaaaaaaaaay too hard. You need to have a little subtlety to ragebait. You can't make it this obvious.
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>>547395023
Only if you play them.
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>>547394942
>>547395097
it's a yuki bag holder. pay no mind
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>>547393524
They should have shaved Hugo.
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im just biting to keep the thread bumped. i take nothing seriously here anyway
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>>547395272
>shaved Hugo.
bro... i-i'm going to puke
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>>547395210
Goddamnit. Is there any 4 set that isn't worse than just using 2-2 instead
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>547395181
>Makes longer post
>Claims to not be ragebaited
lol
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>>547394257
Devs basically said Yuki will do very well in the new content. So likely an aoe fest.
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>They think its ragebait
>They don’t realize we actually have a homo with bigtitty phobia living in the thread
He’s the hugohomo for the record
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Why are we being raided by homosexuals?
What happened?
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>>547395429
The new Passion 4-set
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>>547395469
lmao
>>547395490
lol
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>>547395557
They probably heard that Yuki is getting buffed and now are seething because the "chuddies" won yet again.
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>>547395490
>>547395557
>Homosexual fantasies OUT OF NOWHERE
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what a nice day. hit renoa on standard, bricked myself with yuki and picked mei lin from the 300 selector
these void 5 stars man i need to commit to one but i want to play them all, god when are they fixing this poorfaggotry
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>>547395429
>>547395595
The Order set is also pretty good now.
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>>547395402
Exactly. If they are getting rid of anything mildly erotic in the game then they shouldn't leave the furrybait character alone. That would be double standards. People might start wondering if the CCP is filled with a bunch of furfags.
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>>547395874
Oh ye, that Order set is amazing especially for LukeGOD
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>>547395881
the ccp are furfags thobeit. they are the same people who popularized the pooh
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dimensional tunnel is dogshit, most of the time it is just garbage
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>>547396054
That must be why he hates being compared to winnie the pooh. He identifies as a different animal...
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>>547392726
gayron game
https://files.catbox.moe/0ygkhq.mp4
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>>547394385
Why are they keep doing this?
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>>547396334
>Her smile and optimism: gone
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The first 0 id choose my partner
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>>547394556
The high shorts make her look so stupid. They couldn't shrink her hips like they did her tits?
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>>547396478
Pris
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>>547396478
namaiki brat seri
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>>547396478
I really wish Serithea was playable...
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>>547395557
That's what happens when the game have furryshit, it attracts the worst scum on earth.
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do you reroll Kyrken for better effects?
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>>547396046
I'm pretty sure the effect triggers before the damage goes out so it's good even on Yuki who can cycle through her entire deck every turn as well.
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>>547396748
No reason not to. I'd hate to get god-tier RNG in chaos(as if that will ever happen) and be a little short on making the most of it because I was lazy rerolling at the start.
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>>547396650
based
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>>547396478
>>547396650
Another soul claimed
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>>547396478
>>547396650
Welp, that was fast
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https://x.com/artemis_epic7/status/1991873436118086101
What happens if you enter a fight no cards in your deck?
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>>547396650
Based msgk enjoyer.
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>>547396932
what does she even do?
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>>547397006
is this what peak performance yuki looks like?
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>"Time to grind a bit of the weekly event thing"
>5th room in, no items, 2 epifanies so far
bro chill
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>>547397104
Slurp Luke's cum
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EoS in about 12 years
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Why did redditroons and resetrannies get obsessed with brigading this game? It's not like this game ever pretended to be targeting them as an audience.
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>>547397006
You don't draw any of that character cards as they have none. It makes it very consistent.
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Please send help, I'm an idiot.
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>>547397145
Can't she slurp mine?
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>>547397104
Decent for Luke I guess if you're not rolling for his sig partner
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>>547397182
For me is the left one and I do pretty well
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>>547397182
Right, you should try to copy it as well
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1 and 2 are effectively the same, just depends if you want all the cards on your next 2 draws or wait until the next shuffle for some reason. 3 is for meme builds.
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>>547397182
i like middle because you can use it twice
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>>547396715
This, we should delete Veronica and Khalipe from the game.
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I just wanted 1 more Opening Found...
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My wife Khalipe is missing her ears
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>>547396932
Post camp animation
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>>547393524
I sincerely hope you die
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this is power
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>>547393524
Only Maribelle really
And where's the Yuki censored version?
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>Started building Tressa and Mika cheese decks for the anti-Judas anti-crab comp
>My run is suboptimal and could be a lot better but at level 41 in a tier 10 Chaos she is already wrecking shit midway through with over 30 levels of difference
Jesus Christ
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Yuki Buffs?
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>>547396478
Seri
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It's a game filled with tittycows, but when given the choice most people would rather take the mesugaki. Hags should take notice.
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>got every 5* but Tressa still at e0
>can't even exchange for her
Why...
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The home screen interruptions happen way too often
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>>547398642
koreans rarely put reasonably sized girls in their gacha, unfortunately
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>>547398702
Is the universal selector only for 5*? If so 4* are rarer than 5*.
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>>547397687
She drank the wine telepathically...?
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>>547398795
a casual glance at my combatant list shows Rei, Beryl, Nia, and Veronica
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>>547398934
telepathic remote gokkun...
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Who's on rateup after Yuki?
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>>547399079
Bondage
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It's over.
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>>547398795
Renoa... forgotten...
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Mei is pretty cute but is she better than Mika?
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>>547399598
No, Mika is free
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Euphina love?
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>>547398702
I have 06 Tress and I don't even want to use her...
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>>547400224
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>>547400224
her hands are just TOO BIG
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>>547398702
based, fuck the homos
wish i could burn them for materials
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>>547400375
But that's the best part?
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>>547400375
4u
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what is Recovering?
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>>547400821
any healing before you use that card
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>>547400224
Some real fucking food.
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>>547400375
If she gives you a handjob, you will know what it's like to be a gook.
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>server error
epic
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You fucks call Yuki a slut but she's actually wholesome
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>>547400821
It has to be an actual heal. If you use a heal while at full hp it will not trigger the cost reduction because you didn't recover any hp. Rei's e2 heal will also not trigger it for some reason.
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>>547400821
>>547400872
By the way, you have to actually heal, recover HP. Overhealing full HP won't count.
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>>547400821
Basically gain 1 ap, the same as the others. But I find this version really annoying to use.
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>>547400872
>>547401186
>>547401189
>>547401256
thanks lads
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Managed to get a 2 turn clear with c0 Yuki after finally getting a decent nia deck

https://streamable.com/44xk6t
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>>547401097
I took her on few dates and she's one of the sweetest girls in the game.
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>>547399118
I don't know who that is
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>basin
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who the fuck is this?
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>>547401532
homo bait
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>>547401532
The upcoming new gay man
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>>547401532
The next 5* homo
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>>547401401
this bitch, Chizuru >>547401345
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>>547401714
>>547401735
>>547401774
Thats a dude?
I thought it was a lesbo/princely girl from the side
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>>547401854
This game does need more flat girls, but nah. His name is Arthur and has a dude voice actor.
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Lmao our guy is too strong
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>when GAYron manages to make another anon gay
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>>547402168
>seething lucklets are going to ruin the cat scarcity
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How does this work? The game will let me select as soon as the battle starts?
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>think of a better way to actually kill
>rewind the last card
>enemy is somehow already dead
T-thanks
Too bad I can't replicate that bug
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>>547401532
Time to make Veight wear the dress again.
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>>547402586
Yep
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>>547402586
Yea. You'll draw your starting hand and the game will tell you to pick up up to 3 cards to discard and draw that many. If you have multiple on the team it stacks.
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I think the devs are trapping themselves with this talk about changing some of Yuki's epiphany's to be more single target focus. The next time an AOE unit releases they're either going to have to make them much stronger as an AOE DD or they're going to have to offer a single target kit as well. They've set themselves up for a terrible precedence.
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>>547402431
if a gacha character makes you gay then you were already gay
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>>547401839
Oh
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Does this mean that you can play regular Chaos mode to use on seasonal stuff like crab?
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>>547403090
only if you get a forbidden card, but yes. not sure if all save datas from that run will get the mark or just the save data with the forbidden card.
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>>547403090
You have to get a forbidden card which requires finding the tunnel and then hoping it shows up which is not guaranteed. But yes.
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>>547402851
I think it will be fine. Kayron is actually a solid single target dps already. It really is just Yuki that is the odd one out right now. Getting her up to par should be good for the game overall. Leaving her in a state where even the devs admit they are getting a lot of complaints would probably be a bad idea. You don't want your playerbase being gun-shy of the roll button.
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>>547395808
>e0 cassius
>e5 amir
just like me. i refuse to belief this shit is random.
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>>547402851
"AOE unit" isn't a thing given the current content in the game. if there is any content in the game - any content at all - that this new so-called AOE unit is better than mediocre at they will be in a better spot than yuki.
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https://youtu.be/Ah1F2roynTg?si=fss1mfqT44zMIkxx
Rin chads…
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>>547402851
>I think the devs are trapping themselves with this talk about changing some of Yuki's epiphany's to be more single target focus.
Did you actually read the notice? They said they were going to release content shilling her and adjust the changes based on her performance there.
If the vast majority of the playerbase does horribly then they'll take that into account for the changes and probably make some drastic changes but if everyone clears just fine or 0-turns the entire thing then you likely should just kiss those chanegs goodbye.
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>>547402851
>>547403440
I think they just need to make a single target neutral card comparable to what overwhelm and maneuvering fire are for aoe. Characters with huge single target damage can slap a copy or two of those into their deck and suddenly they can pass aoe checks too. The single target neutral cards are just mediocre for their ap cost
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>>547403090
I'm interested in how they are gonna handle future seasons. Will Season 1 Zero be kept separate from Season 2 Zero for a more curated experience? Or will Zero become a hodgepodge of multiple seasons worth of content that leads to weird, if sometimes gamebreaking, interactions? The latter would be more in line with what people expect from roguelites, like Isaac, where getting that one ridiculous run is the payout you are playing for.
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please help does priscilla EP weakness attack persist between anchor uses or does it only work once

someone must have picked this striker bp girl someone must know
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>>547404045
Also, content shilling Yuki means more AOE content.
And more AOE content means Khalipe will finally get to be actually good instead of an overhyped meme.
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>>547402851
Yuki already has single target epiphanies in her kit though. But Yuki is just average all around, compared to Kayron she is just not as good.
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>>547404208
the """"ourguy""" autist uses that partner with rin if you want to scrub through their vods. surely it's landed on black dance or the pink card when he had the move both epiphany
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>>547404103
Yes all of the seasons will be added to zero. They mentioned it at the very beginning of the season.
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>>547404364
whats his account? I'll turn the volume off and go through them
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>>547404103
I'm interested how they handle the game in general. If all it takes is a couple spergs to rework the game or a character then this game's gonna die before first anni.
It's cool that devs listen but devs should also have a vision for their game instead of just changing everything on a dime instead of folding like origami whenever any retard complains.
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>>547404496
Flares117
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>ST content
>Has a different flavor of Ballista for each encounter
>AOE content
>Switches to Giant ballista
Know who's going to be evergreen regardless of what they're shilling? The dumb mouse.
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>>547402851
The other AoE units already being good at single target.
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>>547404489
Yes, but I mean will they be kept separate inside of Zero? Will one run have Season 1 content and another have Season 2? Or will it be possible to find Season 1 and Season 2 content in the same run? That's what I'm wondering about. The latter sounds more interesting, but also more likely to end up a clusterfuck.
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>>547404513
Your talking about devs that scraped their vision multiple times already. They are rewriting their story has we speak. But as long as the gameplay guys stick around it should be ok.
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>>547404860
The same gameplay guys are also folding repeatedly though. Hopefully season 2 will be less of a mess instead of
>AIEEEE FORGIVE US WE'LL CHANGE IT IMMEDIATELY
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>>547404852
I assume everything will be added base on how they described it.
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>>547404513
this. i was cautious about whether or not to spend and now? the devs are casualizing this shit so hard. we're going to get battle skip button soon. gameplaykeks.... we lost
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>>547405049
We really should be able to skip mat runs though. Chaos should be untouched but can I like not have to run the same potential stage 10 times manually?
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>>547402851
Nah thy will just release a stronger aoe dps.
Then a stronger single target dps.
What can go wrong.
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>>547404513
>vision
lmao
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I keep fucking up my event runs
>do fine on floor 1
>random fight link crashes me because i couldn't heal fast enough
Man I suck at this game
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It's that time of day again.
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>>547405165
First game I see where the gacha characters don't invalidate everything and retards want to actually see them invalidate everything and be necessary.
Gachacucks YEARN for the powercreep.
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>>547404961
The Yuki changes are reasonable. If they actually did fold, they would have doubled all of her numbers immediately.
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>>547402851
SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH
SHE BETTER HAVE INFINITE EXTRA ATTACK SCALING ON ONE OF HER ST OPTIONS
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>>547405302
But the gacha characters are strong, and everything goes into standard so far
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>>547405374
I'll see if they're reasonable or not when they happen. For now, I'm not very happy about them saying they'll add more green content when we literally only have three green charas (and two are dudes) because a bunch of whiny retards complained.
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With Mei Lin existing there will never be a stronger single target character. If such a character does come about then this game will have 3 million hp normal mobs.
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>>547405304
>they don't know
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Devs listening and making appropriate changes after considering feedback is a bad thing and here’s why.
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>>547337650
so cute!
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>>547394556
I prefer the prostitute because I already have wife irl.
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>>547405936
your hand doesn't count incel
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>>547405651
That's fair, the attribute distribution is pretty bad. Not sure why we have like 10 void units on top of Chizuru coming out next.
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Devs listening and making appropriate changes after considering feedback is a bad thing and here’s why.
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>>547406210
TV MODE SUCKED DONKEY DICK
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>>547406210
the difference is that the entire playerbase of hoyoshit is women and woman, devs were listening to women and woman opinions.
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>>547406210
ZZZ was flawed from the start and they still haven't addressed the fundamental issues with attack vs anomoly or defense characters. It's just a team of retards. Hoyoslop got big by luck coming out during the scamdemic.
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>>547406018
>your hand doesn't count
Obviously? Are you retarded or something?
>incel
2025 almost over and he still think this is an insult lmoa.
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>>547406398
Femcels and incels are just two sides of the same coin. Literally both fucking retarded and this game's going to go down the same ZZZ cycle of
>Put out patch
>People complain
>Change things
>The people who complained are still complaining and people who liked the way it was before are now complaining too
>Go back to step 1 and repeat
ZZZ would have died ten times over if it didn't have the hoyo infinite money trick
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>>547406210
TV sucked ass and the devs were right to listen, the only bad change that came from it was changing the mcs into wuxia gods even though no one really complained about their role before
And in czn the story is so bad they really can do anything and it should be better, hopefully
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>>547406210
TV mode suck ass thougheverbeit.
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>>547406210
Appropriate changes are the key words here.
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>>547406398
>>547406428
cope. devs listening to retards (You) is never the correct answer
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>>547404208
>>547404364
Looks like it's permanent. The EP card doesn't mention a limit, and I found one case where it applied to a card, he used it, and when he checked his draw pile later it still had the attribute.
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>>547404525
it took half an hour of looking but i found it

IT DOES PERSIST
PRISCILLA S TIER
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>>547406729
Not an argument.
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>>547406648
Which changes have the devs in this game made post-release that you wish they hadn't?
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>>547404786
>no ears
What have they done to our girl
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>>547406210
No one cares about mihomo and zensored zone zero. Imagine playing this cucked shit.
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>>547406778
ahh you beat me by a minute. it seems really good doesn't it?
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>>547406140
Its terrible. Every single world has passion mobs in it for some reason but there's only one passion team that doesn't even care about passion weakness because they have weakness implant.
Meanwhile green is the most underdeveloped element and they're going to magick content out of nowhere for it because people complained?

Hopefully they're as weak as the mobs from world 4 where the entire map is a joke instead of shitbuffing it and making it a "Hope you rolled Yuki/Luke/Hugo" kinda deal.
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Yuki puffy nipples
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It's rough being a single mother of three.
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Holy fuark
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>finally get a good mei lin run with move unity and the right rising dragon
>not a single copy hit the whole run
>ends up being a trash deck anyway
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>>547407286
>reorganize
>hgh shot into bicep
what did the gooks meme by this
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I want the censored skins, they really make them so much better
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>>547407053
It's probably the leader board thing as every team had Luke and Yuki on it. So it was content they were going to do anyway.
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>>547407535
is this the newest shitpost to rage bait?
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>>547407535
>global: american 'beetus pig
>chinese: hot landmine girl
the gooks are laughing at us
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I'm tired of gooning, and I'm done with the gameplay
all that's left is to ragebait in a friendly manner
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>>547407624
If opinions you disagree with make you autistically angry then maybe you should take an autism test.
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>>547407624
It's that time of day and they have nothing else to use as material. Which is a good sign for the game in my opinion.
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All me btw
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how the fuck do i use these 2 items?
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>>547407535
Your opinion makes me autistically enraged
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>>547407535
It really does look a lot better though. Does China have Yuki? Did they turn her into a prim and proper lady instead of a trailer whore with piercings?
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>>547407535
Why don't you mod it for yourself or play the chinese version of the game?
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>>547407624
There is still 11 days until the next story content comes around.
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>>547407818
for first: spend 8 weeks farming potentials and on the 9/10 node you use it
for second: go to the policy page and spam click everywhere until something happens
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>>547407856
I think they should go farther. She still has tits and curves that make me dysphoric.
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>>547407818
Purple card - final upgrade for the 2 nodes after unique cards (usually crit chance+damage or attack+health)
Purple papers - go to your policy office and click add policy
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>no oath of vanity exhaust + copy
>no copy of echoes
>no copy of black hole before epi
I was so so so close to greatness
Gonna keep this deck for when I get him to e2
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>>547405304
if only you actually knew what kind of damage boost you're getting from the descriptions
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>>547407948
Anon you should really take that autism test before it ruins your life
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>>547407818
The eye thing is for potentials, and to use policy click on the policy location when it's empty.
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what is wrong with tressa's legs?
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>>547407964
>>547408053
thanks
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>>547406398
You don't need to be a woman to say thst TV mode blew
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I really think we might have the best general on the board. Shitposters have resorted to trying to ragebait with "I wish I was Chinese".
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>>547407976
This deck would go so hard with E3, or even with just Bria.
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>if you don't agree with me then you're a shitposter trying to ragebait me
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>>547408086
I don't know why she still has the beta design legs when we saw she got updated legs in the season trailer.
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>>547408149
>Shitposters have resorted to trying to ragebait with "I wish I was Chinese".
>common /v/ tactic at the end of the day
Not really.
>dude censored design looks better
Guaranteed (You)s.
Even then, this place is only good because it hasn't attracted a scat or cp poster (Yet)
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>>547408149
Some chinese boys can be pretty cute
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>>547408221
I miss when 4chan was awkward anons trying to discuss things instead of narcissistic idiots that think the world orbits around them
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>>547408039
>implying I haven't already taken it with obvious results
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>>547408407
i know it's cliche but i blame re*dit
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>>547402586
That procs inspire btw.
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>>547407535
I understand you're just baiting but the original design is awful and boring, while the censored design is clearly a poor edit. They both suck
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>>547408086
roblox looking ass legs
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>>547408886
Agreed! Big tits are ugh heckin problematic af and appeal to the male gaze.
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>>547408086
Looks like horse legs
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Does escaping a chaos run have any negative effects, or can I escape for free? I don't want to characters to have to go through counseling just so I can reroll epiphanies.
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How many units are you going to get from the upcoming tax refund?

I leveled 4 characters to 60 so I'm due for a massive cashback when they do the change.
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>>547390173
i'm tired of playing this cunt with her 40% crit rate and randomized targetting no i will not get 2 bloody dupes for her
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>>547409006
No refund on going from 50-55? That's the highest level I've done.
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>>547408643
I don't think even reddit is this bad though. It's especially bad here because the anonymous nature allows autists to feel in control and have mass spergouts at anything they disagree with because they'll never have to answer for it or be held accountable for it.
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>>547405413
>Yuki should be Beryl
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>>547407286
nice
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>>547392332
at least you managed to get rid of 2 basics. looks fun for cycling.
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>>547409112
Maybe? They're changing the entire 50~60 thing so they might refund everything you spent past 50.

>>547409137
If she looked like Beryl then I would have rolled for sure
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So just got the slutty nun, how do I use her? She creates slimes but that's it
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Why are the roll currency packs expensive
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>>547409187
>Only 1 source of water
>Upgrade version of analysis
Oof
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>>547390462
>The Merlin
FGO
>The kitasan black
Umamusume
>The bennett
Genshin Impact
>The castorice
Honkai star rail
>The Silverash
Arknights
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>>547409287
As a vulnerability application bot
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>>547409287
she doesn't do anything except clog your hand, it's funny
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>>547409287
take anything a cause vulnerable then your dps go to town
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>>547409003
In zero you lose your codex and have to merge again which means lost money. In event you lose nothing. In normal chaos you lose nothing. You can still end up with sad characters even if you escape early though. It is entirely RNG. If a character ends up with deep trauma, they cannot get it again until daily reset. So if you mindwipe or counsel them once then that's it for them for the day.
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The funny thing about them showing memory points on the upcoming update is that i'll still have to use the calculator to know how many points i'll have BEFORE I grab the card so it changes nothing
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>>547409246
>>547409112
>Previous Unit Consumption: 1,080,000 >>> Updated Unit Consumption: 216,000
You'll get back 80% of whatever you spent on levels, but not promotions. I say that because the 50 promotion alone is 500k and the levels from 50-60 are 600k for 1100k total, more than the 1080k they listed. The amount they gave must be from just the levels from 1-60 not including promotions.
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>>547409324
>Upgrade version of analysis
I like not drawing dead cards that do nothing, so if I can thin my deck better.
I'd like to have multiple source of waters yes but this deck is looking nice for fast turn 1 powerspike builds.
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>>547409504
The calculator will be more accurate then as well
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>>547409504
Yeah, it’s still a work in progress.
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>>547409472
I'm just leaving them mindbroken now
Oh you want to have a melty? Fine have a melty but I'm not gonna pay 30k to wipe your memories today
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CZN needs a wyvern grind to cull the herd of shitters.
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>>547409576
Analysis is 0 cost waves, 1-2 2 ideally which is an automatic +1 AP on any turn after casting deluge. On top of any regular benefit an epiph can give like 1 morale. So far from nothing.
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>>547409626
Playing psychiatrist also increases affection similar to going on dates. So if you weren't using those passes before you may as well use them there to give small stat boosts to the people you use in chaos.
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>>547409681
These people already burnout just from chaos what make you think they can handle wyvern farm
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>>547409287
>use initiation card
>ignore the yellow half of your hand unless you're going to hit the hand limit next draw
>watch as her cards magically shift around before each turn and she does things without you knowing what
>if you're using rin, use orlea's attack summons first whenever you have a stance enabler in your hand because they're a pain in the ass to get rid of otherwise
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>>547409740
That's a different deck that what I have in mind here with this epiphany, especially with just 1 source of water. Yeah having four divine epiphanied retain draw 1 source of waters is probably much better and on that deck, your analysis would be better. But with this after spluring I don't want to see more mika cards, I want to draw my whole deck and have good consistency. I even gave her this shit just for that alone.
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I didn't get the Veronica hype until I stated farming zero system
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>>547409831
>>547409681
Wyvern farm would be unironically better than what we have right now because you wouldn't have decision paralysis of where to get your gear, just go mindlessly spam wyvern.
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>>547383669
Lucas is incredibly fun and surprisingly strong too. He has less free damage than Veronica, but he helps a lot with debuffs, drawing cards and discarding them as well, while having a Renoa-esque gimmick with his bullets.
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>>547408974
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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Cthulhu should give a special type of divine epiphany
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Is an event tile better than an elite?
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>>547406210
It depends. Some annoyances have to stay in so that overcoming them gives the reward more value. 1 epiphany reset is fine. Choosing not to pick epiphany even. Maybe, just maybe the simulation skip. But we enter murky waters with the 2x speed for chaos. Make things too fast and too convenient and you will lose players because what they achieve just doesnt feel as rewarding anymore. Just slowly fight the chaos fatigue with intelligent decisions. They managed to make a good deckbuilder. Surely they know how to not make the gacha side hurt the deckbuilder side. Surely..
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>>547410291
usually yes unless you are maybe really lacking equipment or need to clear someone's encroaching madness
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>Cutest character is the best one
based
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>>547410491
But Yuki is the cutest
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>>547410014
If you just want sheer draw power then bringing mika at all is weird, unless she's like your only leveled support. Not taking advantage of her AP generation is just gimping her to be a draw character sidegrade. Though we have multiple memory sets so may as well just make her into a ghetto cassius if you can.
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>>547410575
gross
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>>547410447
Automating and speeding and skipping shit is what I'm worried about too. I'm fine with skipping the animations in unidentified areas just because we see the same ones dozens of times over in a day if you're grinding chaos.
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>>547410447
But even slay the spire has a fast mode, what's wrong with us having one? Making people not be stuck watching every animation at 1x won't kill the deckbuilder side since it didn't kill sts.
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And what about Cassius then? I know the meme shit with Tressa but how does he actually work? His kit doesn't mean shit except he wants 0 cost cards, how you make him do the one shit thingy?
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>>547410291
Combat is more likely to give epiphanies that improve cards. Because most event epiphanies are the type that unlock cards.
Chasing after too much combat can be dangerous. And even if you can sustainably handle it, you risk missing out on the really good events that offer card transforms or copies. An event you have already seen can't show back up in the same run, so hitting a lot of events means a significant improvement in your odds of getting one of the good ones. But if you avoid combat too much you might run into a copy event when your key card hasn't even had an epiphany yet.

The tl;dr is that it is complicated and there is no objectively correct answer for all situations. Except to avoid normal enemies as much as possible in interior. Those things suck. Most elites are easier than vaginamon.
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>>547410812
sts didn't put a fraction of the effort. you won't see animation sped up
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>>547410812
Idk how cast combat is by default in sts but in this game at least the combat always felt pretty fast to me. When you're throwing out cards they queue up and fire off pretty fast.
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>>547410981
Yeah because sts doesn't have an animation cut-in whenever you use a card.
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Animation speedups/skips are fine. Just don't completely take the game out of it by letting people make a deck without even doing the chaos.
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just shorten chaos and give us a reroll.
there's no need to add gay shit like animation skip and double speed.
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>>547410923
Get the "choose quest" epiphany. Dupe joker. Get a dupe cass so his joker can target the discard pile. Delete as many other cards as you can. That's it. Try not to die while he bricks your chaos team.
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>>547411183
I want pizza
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How is Veronica the cutest? She looks like a donkey.
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>>547410583
I just happened to get that, had the copy offered and thought it'd make for a useful thing to have, especially for decks that require a bit of setup to prepare a really explosive play. Retardedly powerfuld decks will still have divine epiphanied cards that have -1 cost anyway or will self sustain their own AP or something like that. Moreso since I can reload my ego instantly at the beginning of the fight to make some plays that shouldn't be possible. I think I can make some use of this. It's just a nice deck to have in the back catalog. Her function with this deck should be drawing cards, adding HP, not clogging my deck and healing me to sustain me during the one or two turns I'd need to blow any content. Any trash cards like the umbrellas will still be removed with rei's snacks or something similar. The rest of the deck was never going to be anything remarkable anyway.
I already have one deck that does what you're describing. Unfortunately I was level ASS, didn't understand the save system and got a bunch of dogshit back because of the savedata cap (that I stil didn't understand since it was one of my first days playing)
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I am nonplussed by the speed of combat. If they do speed up then fine, if they don't also fine.
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Imagine if STS made you watch a slow and fancy animation of silent throwing a shiv whenever you used one
Or if every uncommon/rare made you watch a five second animation every time you used one and you couldn't skip any of them
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then go play sts, dumbass
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>>547411528
Now imagine if she showed off her ass and tits while doing so.
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Am I missing something or does this event exist just to ensure you sometimes get (even more) shitty RNG in the tunnel? There's no secret choice that makes this an actual worthwhile event is there?
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>>547411573
I hear one of the symptoms of autism is not being able to detect sarcasm
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>still no hypno porn
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>>547411681
surely there is a mode for that...
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Which is the best lab 0 stage to farm good decks? Just unlocked 9
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>>547411769
lab8 tier 14
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>>547411745
mod* ahhhh
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>>547411685
Nah, it's just a worthless garbage event designed to make you restart
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>>547411847
So you just spend currency rerolling on difficulty 8 until you get tier 14?
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>>547412105
pretty much
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>>547412105
>>547412156
Insane how all it takes is 10 currency yo reroll event but it takes 70 to reroll chaos, what the fuck?
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>>547412156
thank you. I gues I'll do runs on 9 10 and 11 to get the first time gibs and then I'll spend the rest of the event on there.
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>>547412247
and you can even quit without losing the mods that you rolled
>>547412257
np. tier13 also give good datas but from my experience 14 is definitely better.
there's tier15 on higher difficulties but it is pretty ass and not worth the worth.
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Doesn’t lab 8 tier 14 always come with the really ass modifiers?
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>>547412783
you can roll tier14 with decreased credits, hp damage per turn and can't rest on safe zones; amongst others. those are manageable, even the boss hp/damage increase.
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>>547412783
>>547413070
and by tier 14 I meant rolling 13 because DT increases the value by one
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What potentials do i focus on levelling fot Mika?
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>>547411183
Why?
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>>547412783
If you can do the later difficulties lab 8 will be easy as long as you don't get the fortitude modifier
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>>547411731
Yuki avoided me...
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>>547411183
they mentioned wanting to try some feature like allowing you to edit the save data after a chaos data a bit by using some resource, but this was stuff for season 2 iirc
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I don't want them to gut out the animations with speed ups, enjoy the game how it's meant to be played
People like that will kill the game over time
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How do I play Haru
Why does this fat fuck lack aoe
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>>547413698
no what they mean is stuff like cards flying around, taking damage and so on going quicker

they already said "the animations are already fast enough"
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will they finally stop forcing fat titty hags onto us for fucks sake.
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>>547413751
>lack aoe
She has a pretty decent aoe card.
If you're still struggling just pair her with Khalipe.
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>>547413801
Alright nvm then, I still want them to up the skill animations that's really all I care about
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>>547413698
buzz off any speed up QOL is welcomed. anyone who thinks you should be forced to see the same attack animation endless times is a fucking casual retard. we had the same shit when e7 launched
with retards pushing back against accessory crafting
any form of improvements in maragola
any sort of improvements to gold
any sort of improvements to gear and saying oh you should just play it how they designed it its fine you're just being entitled.
If you don't like the speed up feature disable it
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Im done with the event, can’t beat tier X, every time a random elite or bunch of dogs next to the final boss fucked my run, also why is so hard to get an epiphany unlike in normal Chaos?
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>>547413912
I mean this is what they said
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>>547413698
next time they will be asking for chaos skip
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>>547414027
reeeeeee my smilegate ptsd is being triggered again
gyaaaaa fuck e7 fuck e7 redditards
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>>547413698
Truke
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>>547413856
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>>547413856
im not a pedo so I like boobs
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>>547414121
Get brainwash and nia to win, it's the only way
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>>547414190
gimme chaos skip or bad things will happen to you in minecraft.
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There's been some confusion regarding how much exp you need per level so I'm going to datamine char_growth@char_exp.db.
Bad news is that the file is literally 5 kb which means xortool is going to crash out and output partial garbage as the key, which means I have to do the manual correction all over again to decrypt the file. See you in 1-2 hours
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Anons really would love a game where you log in, press your skip button, collect resources, then upgrade what you need and log out. Why have characters at that point either? All you need is numbers. Why in the fuck do you skipfags hate playing the game itself?
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>>547413801
they should speed up the chaos layout too.
4 seconds of the characters walking between events and no way to speed up the dialogue is insane. you lose almost 10 seconds just waiting for the choices to appear.
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shortening the chaos would be a way to solve the "animations are too long" bitching.
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>>547414471
gacha addicts
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Is this the part where I put the rapist in therapist?
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>>547414382
you've got a mom incest fetish that's why you wish you were a baby again sucking on cow tits.
I'm sorry i'm not weird like you.
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>>547414471
All games should be AFK Journey, yes
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>>547414443
Good luck anon, thank you for your sacrifice.
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>dimensional tunnel event
>200 or 100 credits
why is this a thing. fuck off with those useless events
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>>547413751
>cheapest card tier
>0 ap
>stronger than most character aoe cards
>broken epiphanies because it's exhaust
>scales hard with additive boosts
Strikers have no reason to be complaining about aoe checks
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>>547414492
Look at this guy. Muh 10 seconds. Where the fuck have you got to be, speedy gonzalez?
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>>547414443
man found the 6th chaos planet
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>>547414471
so i can enjoy the challenge content and only play when i want to
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>>547414758
>only play when i want to
You can always do that.
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>>547414816
gimme my participation reward then i want it in the mail prompto or i'm going to tell daddy
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>>547414694
if I’m going to play a game and have to wait 10 seconds for ALL ? events text to play out that I won’t read because I’ve already seen them 10000x, I may as well read a visual novel instead.
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>A Mouthful
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I'm in favor of speeding up things that aren't engaging. Namely simulations. They are busywork forced on you to collect the resources required for the worst(hoyoslop) part of the game. Give me a skip button for that nonsense so I can play more chaos thanks.
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I want a game where I can play it and 80% of my runs is gameplay instead of 50% animations and 50% gameplay.

I want a game where I don't have to repeat the same shitty simulation stage where it takes me 30 minutes to dump stamina on potential crystals when the chore could have been done in 10 seconds.

>NOOOO BUT YOU NEED TO SUFFER OR ELSE YOU AREN'T HAVING FUN!!!!
Eat shit.
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>>547408241
>when we saw she got updated legs in the season trailer
Do you have a pic? I skimmed the trailer and I don't even see Tressa
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>>547415064
>gameplay instead of animation
might as well play solitaire at this point
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Gameplay speed is fine, just give me simulation skips because that shit is literally just designed to be gachaslop busy work stamina dumping.
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>>547414670
fucking love this card
Insane that with crits and boosts it's more ST dps than 99% of cards too
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>>547415206
Excuse you. Solitaire has a really nice animation when you win. Maybe you should try it some time.
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>>547414443
where did you get the files to do this or the tools if you don't mind sharing? i want to datamine some stuff myself
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I don’t care that much about gameplay speed-up, but chaos exploration animations and dialogues feel insanely slow and are the reason each run takes 40 minutes.
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>>547415389
that I agree
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>>547414701
>>547414667
Ok the file is actually called char_growth@char_growth_material.db (exp is just the exp thresholds per ascend level) Terrible news: xortool doesn't even output anything. xortool already takes some time with files less than ~50 kb, and with 5 kb xortool just gives up. Unless someone can decrypt the file I'm not sure how I can datamine this.
>>547415343
google epic seven asset ripper and xortool. All the db files need to be decrypted with a 256-byte xor key first, which makes xortool required after you extract the db files you need with the asset ripper. The problem is I'm not sure where to start if even xortool has given up
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>>547415389
>>547415474
they need an option of skipping events dialogue you have already seen
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>>547414670
But I don't want useless overload cards clogging my deck.
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>>547415389
Yeah I don't really need to read what the scientists are toasting to for the umpteenth time. An option to speed up already-seen events would be nice.
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>>547410939
Only happens in 2nd half Interior, all nodes are free before that
Outskirts 1st half = avoid elites
Interior 2nd half = avoid normal nodes
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Would have been better if I could have gotten another shop to remove strike of darkness but finally a good Rei deck
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>>547416067
This is shit though.
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>>547416067
I want to try to make a 3-card Predator deck one day. Morale spam seems fun.
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>>547416067
>removing her buff skills
?
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>>547416186
You're right, the best Rei deck is one with 0 cards.

>>547416215
I didn't remove them, they never got a chance to show up because I didn't let them.
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>>547415594
It will be okay, I promise. Treat it like a fight ending card. And if the fight doesn't end, a couple status cards isn't the end of the world.
t. kayron addict turned rin enjoyer
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God fucking dammit I went in to farm a Mika deck with 120 or so points so I didn't care for Rin's deck and got a monster card into it.
Then Nihilum went crazy and blessed both of them left and right. This might as well be my best Rin deck but if in the end of it the Monster Card gets prioritized it will all go to shit.
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>>547416301
Remove the card in shop, should be free on data
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>>547416293
that card is pretty comfy, it dunks on basin floors easily. the two bricks really are not the end of the world.
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>>547416394
Wait really? Well fuck I'm already in the final boss.
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>>547416301
Remove it asap
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>>547416067
op
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>>547416501
Bro I'm already fighting the card eater dog. It's so over
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the dupe after clearing a chaos should not be a pick 1 out of 3
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>>547416394
I thought when you get the monster card it gets added to faint memory even when removed? That's what this thread said last time I asked anyway.
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how you make small decks, delete 3 card and play to make another into monster blood?, want to try a full upgrade Hugo
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>>547416894
if I'm not mistaken removing a monster card refunds you the points
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>>547411731
Cause it's not Hypno you retard it's men in black mind wipe
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>>547416940
If you aren't making them this way then you won't have enough points to remove all the shitty cards.
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>>547416860
You can improve your odds by removing every blue or higher card that isn't 100% necessary from other characters, but it's a shitty thing to need to do. Also completely impractical if you take one of the -x% credit modifiers.
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>>547417113
what's killken the starting angel?
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>>547417156 (me)
Forgot to mention, [Unique] tagged cards are fine to keep since they can't be copied anyway.
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So my units have to be level 60 to get the refund right?
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>>547414471
same mindset as slot machine addicts. winning actually slows down game time so they hate it
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>>547417156
that's what I do. I avoid picking any extra card on my other characters and thin their datas as much as possible but even then you can't fight the rng.
that's one layer of RNG that should not be in the game, it is frustrating when you finally get good epiphanies but not a single dupe.
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>>547416894
the game do remember the card being added
you can remove it and it doesn't count towards faint memory, but if you exceed the budget even after that, it might come back and fuck up your deck big time.
as long as you don't go over your budget after removal, you should be fine.
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>>547417245
Kyrken's Messenger has a 2 card removal option
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>>547417245
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>>547417346
No. They are slashing unit(money) prices to level characters by 80% at all levels. You will get a refund for everything you "wasted" once the patch goes out. This applies to the cost to level the character, not the promotion cost. However much you spent on the leveling part for all of your characters, 80% of it will be returned to you.
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based
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Finally beat ultimate crab on my Gayron team. I don't recommend it, I have a really overpowered Gayron (E3 + 5* partner) and it still took me a few tries to get the cards to line up right. But at least it's done now.
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I have given up on trying to reverse engineer the xor key and I'm messaging the guy who made wiki.e7bot.top on discord to see how he did it
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the more i play this, the more i just want to play slay the spire 2
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>>547417893
good job
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Wow finally
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>need to lvlup all the memory frag stages individually
Fuck.
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>>547417893
Did you have an AOE build or was he ST? Paired with Tressa or was he the sole carry? I wanted to try my Tressa Kayron team but Unless he gets the big AOE almost exclusively then he's kinda not doing much. I would need to thin out his deck a lot to just be the AOE support.
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>>547417759
>d5 save
lil bro...
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>>547417641
Ah ok I wasnt sure cause I didnt wanna miss out, thanks you saved me my stamina from grinding money.
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are u fucking kidding me i didnt get aromata until the boss stage. and i didnt delete flame dragon
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>deleting flame dragon
You guys don’t actually do this soulless shit, right?
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>>547418632
I do occasionally, but It's not that bad of a card honestly, hits hard as shit when it crits.
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>>547418632
i mean its probably fine since i got +AP but usually i would delete it
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>>547416394
>>547416501
Huh it actually removed one of the Divine Epiphanies. The deck is still fine. Mika’s is the ine that got gutted hard.
Think this is a good Rin deck?
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>>547418034
the best thing out of all the other garbage they wrote
>>547418632
no one cares what you think, storyshitter
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>>547418632
Depends, like if I have Belligerence or not.
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>>547418801
>storyshitter
What the fuck does this even mean you schizo?
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>>547418190
It was with Tressa, honestly the AoE doesn't matter, the bubbles don't really make a difference to anything. My team and deck building was probably really shit since both Kayron and Tress were really being the "main" dps at the same time. Frankly, I just wanted to get it over with without needing to build up any other teams since I'm lazy, this is a really shit way to go about the crab.
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which card bros
also what the FUCK is the middle one?
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>>547419007
pretty sure middle means
>2 vulnerable to targets hit by counterattacks
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I feel like the two main pain points in Chaos right now are:
>getting the right epiphany
Because many characters outright demand specific ones or they drop a tier. This leads to people restarting as soon as they get offered the wrong options. Some sort of epiphany reroll option would be nice here. The ideal fix would be balancing all epiphanies, but that isn't realistically gonna happen. There will always be something optimal and then everything else.
>getting the chance to copy the right cards
The copy event isn't reliable to find. Boss copies don't let you pick the card. Thanks to that, fantastic epiphany luck can quickly transform into useless dogshit. It feels terrible.

I don't think both of these should be fixed though. If you strip out both of the main RNG elements, then people will get their "perfect" decks pretty quick. Without a goal to chase, some people will lose motivation. So it becomes a question of which to make better. Reliable epiphanies or reliable copies? Or neither and keep things as they are?
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>>547418103
just use stamina on chaos loot when it gives you the fragments you actually want
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>>547419007
middle is funny for long fights
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>>547419007
Middle actually means you apply 2 vulnerable to targets YOU counterattack
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>>547419461
I honestly feel the way it is right now is fine. You don't need "perfect" decks for anything at the moment besides maybe tier 10 Judas and it makes it more exciting to try and get a good deck going. It's just gambling.
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Why did they make the second option (4 hit) so garbage?
>eats up vuln stacks
>WEAKER than no epiphany (needs 3 morale stacks to do equal damage)
>requires a TON of additive damage (150%+) to catch up to the 266%x2 and 295% (590% in stance) options
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>>547419461
at least one guaranteed copy (which we kinda already have on normal zero). I hate rolling good epiphanies but not a single dupe.
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>>547419007
>enemy does a little combo on you
>+14 vulnerability
it's really funny
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>>547420014
>>547419793
>>547419729
fuck I should have gotten the middle one
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>>547416067
>Struggling with basin
>Give this deck to Rei so she stops SHITTING up my hands
>Suddenly get the easiest clear of my life
Holy shit, I can't believe it was that easy to unbrick myself.
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>>547419898
idk bwo. why did they make Mei Lin's move soo much better than the others?
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>>547420074
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>roguelike deckbuilder has roguelike elements
LE HECCIN FEMINAZIS KEKIN MY DECKS! FIRE UP THE GOOK TRUCKS AAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEE
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which one should I get?
Im doing a veronica, Magna and Mika run
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>>547420074
retard
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>>547420254
the translations are ass and you guys took too long to reply
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[-]
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>>547420249
right?
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>>547401532
My wife (male)
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>>547420393
>Asks a question
>Cant wait more than 2 minutes
You aren't that busy.
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Guys, are there any news on characters focused banners ? I am level 51 now, after I tested out combatants I didn't have in my friend's account I want Veronica really badly for my Mei Lin.
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So they teased they will let us keep track of the point values of the Save Data through the run in the next update but did they say anything about having control over what gets removed once we break the limit?
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>next update is going to be AOE heavy because of Yuki shilling
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>>547420571
veronica is so cute!
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>>547401532
New boy, after the rewrite all the females are getting replaced by gay furries and males
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>>547420563
you already have control, anon. if it isn't good, don't add it. just go play afk journey if you need more.
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>>547420678
>That ass
Why is it so big tho
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Are they making the same mistake Tribe Nine does or are we still safe?
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>>547420678
this will SAVE chaos zero nightmare
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>>547419898
because multihit is a common enemy mechanic
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>>547420831
never played what looks like a kusoge from a quick google. qrd?
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Don't care, didn't ask.
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>>547420678
this boy will be the next Owen controversy
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>>547420678
Kayron(me) is so lucky, Bria wife and Arthur boyfriend.
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>>547401532
He will be the 5* that ushers in the new era of powercreep.
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>>547401532
Passion AP battery that will make Mei-lin team even more broken
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>>547417010
You still eat the points that cost you for card removal, if any. But yes that phat 80 is gone.
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>Almost all Kayron ego nodes are good
Kayron rules this game
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Don't let all the "devs listened" cucks distract (you) from the fact that Yuki sucks and they're not changing anything other than epiphanies that (you) have to RNG for.
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>>547421585
he is the main character of chaos zero nightmare(tm)
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>>547401532
>>547420678
guy's name is Arthur
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>>547420956
NTA but it failed quickly due to monetization. It was fine during beta but on release they removed a bunch of the roll income. Players felt like it was a bait and switch so they bailed on the game and it announced EoS 3 months later. CZN has nothing in common with it.
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>>547421676
What stopping them from making the captain an actual combatant that can fight with his troop ? We are there with our guys venturing into hell, surely we can handle ourself
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>Gayronkeks
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>>547421626
They shouldn't change her at all, brickrollers should live with their poor decisions
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>Yuki gets changed
>It's actually a nerf
>Community is now crying to get it reverted
There were actually a few of those in E7...
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>>547421912
>picture is a punch
>only on shoot classes

what did they mean by this
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>>547421626
>listing reasons I shouldn't pull for her
>posts images displaying why I should pull for her
What did anon mean by this?
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>>547421880
ML games don't tend to do that because showing the player character's face prevents people from self-inserting as them.
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>>547422115
ai brainstorming be like
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>>547422146
they (and i) want to laugh at you after you start crying how the buffs do nothing. roll for her, retard
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>>547421727
So he's another male that fights with purple orbs? Really? C'mon, at least make his orbs a different color.
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>>547422216
Good thing we don't have to worry about MLkekery here!
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yugis really good at farming piss crystal sim
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>>547422309
nigga all they got is FIVE (5) fucking anime color powers
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>>547421737
They will if those 240 summons don't manifest soon. We were promised at least that many.
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>>547422216
But bwo I don't have a sly smile
I can't self insert anymore
It's joever
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>>547422309
Kayron and Arthur come from the same faction(Vagabond) just like Rin
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>>547422539
Yugioh collab?
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>>547422589
>made 10 cuckillion dollars
>but still can't move on from using cheap colored balls for animations
Nice game nightmarecucks.
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>>547422216
Just make the character wear space marine full body armor in combat like in Halo. It's cool as fuck
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>>547422768
no... please delete this... purple orbs are still cool.....
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>>547422770
too late for that. they already showed a different empire protos in chaos, in a pantsuit (iirc). wouldnt make sense for the mc to be armored anymore
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>>547422726
>>547422589
Not saying he can't use purple powers to fit in with the faction and element, but he should at least be using triangles or something instead.
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When are we getting some female ball handlers?
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>>547422609
Fair. Personally I'm expecting some other events to show up later on. Would be unrealistic to believe the seasonal is all they have planned for 9 weeks or however long a patch cycle is. With a director so confoundingly in love with hoyoslop games, I'm sure he's copied the idea of sprinkling mini-events all through the patch too.
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>>547423013
she handles my balls just fine
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>>547422691
holy SEX
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>>547422908
what do you think arthur's purple balls taste like?
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>>547422216
>self insert as a character you have no control over the writing
i still dont get how people maintain this especially in gachas for a prolonged period of time
all it takes is just 1 retarded piece of dialogue to break the entire illusion and it all comes crashing down
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>>547423196
Figure this one out by yourself. I'm not rolling for him because Yuki consumed my balls.
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>>547423286
i dont give a damn about ships or self inserting. take it up with chinks and koreans
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>>547423286
Snowbreak is the current ML gacha as far as I know, and (You) are fully modeled, so I don't even know what that guy is talking about.
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>>547423286
No idea, I could never get into the mindset either. The whole idea of self-inserting as a character in a story never made sense to me. If it works for them, I'm happy for them. I'm just here for the cute characters and challenging gameplay, and god willing, maybe an almost decent story with Lovecraftian elements some time in the future.
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>>547422691
When are they going to let us romance Rei?
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>>547417018
Mind wipe is a form of hypno
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>>547422691
i look like this and do this
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[Good News]
/ourguy/'s rants are officially approved by SmileGate, and he might be one of the primary reasons for the reduction in units needs going forward, because he went on a huge rant about how we don't have any resources to do anything.

Also, they are aware of the cats issue.
(they don't show up anymore)
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>>547423801
>random discorder can go on a rant and smilegate will change the entire game for them
well thats fucking grim then
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>>547423801
listening to the community: bound to go wrong
listening to one guy's schizophrenic voices: I'm interested to see where this heads
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>>547424000
Seems pretty obvious that he is some kind of employee of theirs
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>>547423801
Doesn’t this guy work for Smilegate though?
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>Nia counseling is just you jamming together
cute
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>>547424140
retard-kun, those responses are clearly TO the one guy schizo discordnigger
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>>547423801
Good news more like horrifying news
It's never ever a good thing when the entire game is at the mercy and whims of content creator(s)
I remember playing Priconne and they did horrible changes to the global server because their chosen content creator wanted them to then he abandoned the game like a month later
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>>547424063
I am just glad it's not a redditor otherwise more homo shit is all but guaranteed.
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>>547424243
Post the one guy’s messages then.
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>>547424164
... what the fuck happened to global education systems?
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>>547424000
Get a few thousand subs, and you too can join the exclusive Discord and get payed in pulls
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>>547424283
You can bet money they have a reddit account if it's some dude from Discord/Youtube/Twitch
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>>547424000
>>547424063
>>547424249
When the subject matter of the rant is a sentiment echoed by the entire community, it looks like things eventually get done. He (as far as I am aware) has never gone on a legitimately schizo rant regarding anything related to the game.

Keep in mind, the changes you are pretending to be upset about right now have all been universally good changes that "we" liked when they were announced. I don't understand why you're pretending that this is a bad thing now, when you probably even like recently announced upcoming changes.

>>547424164
"SmileBuddy" works for SmileGate, yes. Those are statements from some content creator SmileGate discord. Flares does not work for SmileGate, except (as far as I am aware) in the capacity that he gets paid 7k gems every so often for creating content, same as the other CZN content creators. I believe Flares works as an accountant.
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So a global community liaison answers a random content creator's questions on discord and I'm supposed to believe that means the Korean game devs are going to take his criticism as gospel. Is this really the best you got?
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>>547424468
>When the subject matter of the rant is a sentiment echoed by the entire community,
The entire community is retarded though. And your use of "we" means you're equally retarded and trolling. If the game is on "your" retarded hands then forget the rework, this shit's dying before the end of the year.
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Is SmileGate good or bad company?
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>our community agrees that no community is worth listening too
This is why you guys are the best
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>Guy shares very common sentiment
>Common sentiment gets implemented
>OMG GUYS HE HAS INSIDER ACCESS TO CHANGE THE GAME HOWEVER HE DEMANDS
Haha
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>>547424572
>The entire community is retarded though
Why do you dislike every change that they have made since the launch of the game?

>And your use of "we" means you're equally retarded and trolling.
Uhh... no? How am I trolling? How am I retarded? Why do you hate the changes that have been made since launch? Which change do you hate the most? Personally, the only change so far that I dislike is the removal of the cats, but those are apparently coming back soon™
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>>547424468
>erm ackshully my rants are the sentiment of the entire community and "we" like them
god I swear nothing ever good comes from some cunt shitposting with discord screenshots
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>>547424386
Sorry, they didn’t teach how to suck content creator cock in my school.
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Remind me why are "we" mad again?
Is it the. actually making it financially viable to level multiple characters at the same time and even retroactively giving us our money back?
Or is it because they decided to buff the worst 5* in the game in the best way possible without actually interfering with her raw numbers but actually taking the hard route of reworking some of her dogshit epiphanies to enable a single target damage dealer route for her build?
Which one should I be mad at again?
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>>547424249
I'll take things that never happened for 100 units
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>Remind me why are "we" mad again?
Because "you" came here with retarded discord screenshots and wanted to get your dick sucked but only got told to deepthroat a shotgun
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>>547424249
So if an unit release as dogshit they have to actually nerf it even more just to avoid listening to people playing the game
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>>547424828
We are mad because...um...he might have the same opinion as us with he ain't us.
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>>547424906
ok, go right now to /pcrg/ and go ask them about tim
right now
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>>547424734
>>erm ackshully my rants are the sentiment of the entire community and "we" like them
Flares went on a huge rant about how there are no resources in the game, even if you whale and max refresh, for actually leveling your units up. He said this weeks before everyone reached level 50. He said it again in his Yuki review video, that SmileGate is giving him pulls, but that doesn't fix the issue of him not having the ability to actually level Yuki up and use her at the endgame. His rant was correct long before the layman reached the point where everyone had zero credits.

>god I swear nothing ever good comes from some cunt shitposting with discord screenshots
If you're talking about me, first off that's a YouTube screenshot (of Discord messages meant for SmileGate content creators), second I'm not a cunt, third I'm not shitposting. I just think it's interesting that the rants that Flares goes on, which I quite enjoy, are officially approved by the SmileGate content creator program. They want to hear unfiltered opinions, even if it's a 15 minute rant about how stingy the game is with its resources. Which is something that is being fixed in the next update, allegedly.
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>entire endgame is just rnging to be able to copy 2-3 times

dropping this slop at this rate
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I've never seen a raid more obvious than this one. You aren't even trying.
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Who give a fuck about units cost
i have been running potential for a week and I still havent maxed a single character
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>>547424983
yes but especially if (You) were retarded enough to roll for it. now hold that bag, retard
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>>547424928
Not your boogeyman sorry but you know that already because you are the one that posted it anyways , I am just beginning to nootice that some of you guys seems intent to painting everything this game does as bad.
Almost like you don't even actually play the game and this is some kind of organized raid. But there is no way that would be true right?
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NOOOO STOP SHITTING ON /OURGUY/ (Me) YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LIKE, SHARE AND SUBSCRIBE HE (I) WILL SAVE THIS GAME
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>>547424828
It’s literally just two guys who are already mad at everything anyway. They keep posting just to remind you that they’re, in fact, mad about the devs bending the knee. They even have the exact same posting style every time.
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>>547425117
Crazy how if you're too busy grinding for gemstones you aren't grinding other resources that eat your money
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>>547424828
>Remind me why are "we" mad again?
I think that guy is just a legitimate schizo and he is probably always mad and always shitposting about something. I'd bet money that he doesn't even understand why he thinks he's upset right now. He just wants to shitpost. He is the modern lowest common denominator, a poor soul mindbroken into constantly shitposting about everything because he has allowed years of the algorithm's ragebait propensity to heavily influence and reshape his brain.
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>>547425083
In Mei Lin's case it's RNG copying 2-3 cards on top of getting 1 out of 6+ epiphany options for 2 cards specifically.
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>ourguy
who?
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>>547425223
Potential nodes are like 40k a pop
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>>547425260
some random tranny you're meant to worship because if you don't then you're a schizo that hates the game
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>only 1 thread through the entire day
uh oh
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Do I get a second yuki partner for my Rin or just grab rin’s sig partner instead?
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>>547425178
Is it that easy to make a gacha slop channel these days?
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>>547425137
ah yeah because its a way better game design to release "bait" unit so people waste their ressource on character they like and then release a broken character you have to get to clear new content
are you working for hoyoverse?
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>>547425329
ummm, we had two, sweaty. this one was just recycled.
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>>547425364
Lilian works just fine for Rin
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>>547425329
This is a recycled thread touristfag, nice try though.
You are welcome to go back to /e7g/ to cope about it though
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>>547425003
>We are mad because...um...he might have the same opinion as us
I find it incredibly bizarre that it's a relatively common occurrence on 4chan for some completely deranged schizo to melt down for hours, or maybe even weeks, or maybe even months, or maybe even years, all because someone agrees with him.
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>>547423801
>Also, they are aware of the cats issue.
fucking finally man get this shit up asap
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>>547425364
Westmaccot is just a worse lillian for rin
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>>547425620
>>547425620
>>547425620
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>547425420
>posting discordniggery
>h*yofaggotry out of NOWHERE
i'm noooticing
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>>547425260
Our favorite content creator, we get our opinion from him
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>>547425496
Some of us work during the week.
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>>547425715
>>547425715
>>547425715
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>>547419461
>pretty quick
you act like everyone's gonna start magically hitting every single right epiphany on their reroll, there's like 10+ epiphanies and then divine epiphanies for some specific strats, you're not hitting some of the super insane shit even in like 50 runs even with a reroll
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>>547425538
>I find it incredibly bizarre that it's a relatively common occurrence on 4chan for some completely deranged schizo to melt down for hours, or maybe even weeks, or maybe even months, or maybe even years, all because someone agrees with him.
Contrarianism is the cope that keeps a lot of people here pushing through life. The idea that they are smarter than everyone else and thus have unique insight that no one else has.
The idea that others have similar opinion to their own, thus making their own opinion not all that unique or intelligent, completely breaks them.
They are a sheep that can't cope with their own skin.
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>>547425678
If you are hoping in here to doompost about how active a thread is then you clearly aren't doing shit with your life. It doesn't get any more unemployed than this.
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>>547426183
>have a busy day
>boot up CZN and check /czn/
>it's the same general when I left this morning
>confused by the activity drop
oh no I'm dooming so hard
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>>547426326
>same general I left this morning
Fuck off lying retard, nobody was posting on this general before it got recycled.
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>>547425083
looking kinda true. . .
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>>547425083
That's pretty much it



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