/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#626 - Scooby Doo! Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsClaude Opus 4.5, with price drop to $5/$25 per million tokens https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Gemini 3 https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/Claude 3.7 deprecated https://docs.claude.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecations#2025-10-28%3A-claude-sonnet-3-7-modelClaude Haiku 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-haiku-4-5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>547869943
>ANCHOR!
Why do AI posters do this?
>>547936587fuck botniggers
>NICEPOSTING ANCHOR
>>547937134I love batmakers and the logs from the previous thread except for that default theme log were fun
Im like hey whats up hello
>MEAN/DRAMAPOSTING ANCHOR
gem theme
>>547935137why aren't we doing it? putting chat history first, instructions second; does it fuck up coherence somehow?
>>5479376821. it's annoying to set up2. it makes it so your sys prompt at the very least isn't cached3. not great for all models. newer GPTs are trained to pay heavy attention to instructions at the top
>>547937682 (samefag)i forgor4. it can create prose seams in output i.e. the model reiterating what happened in the last sentence/paragraph before continuingthough this can be avoided with prompting
I finally did it. I present to you an Opus 4.5 log with NO slop.
cftf?
i thought it was best practice to put the most important stuff at the bottom of the prompt/below stuff. has that changed?
>>547938395is this real?
>>547938119Send preset, sir…
>>547938425anon the chat history is objectively the most important thing
>>547938438Let's vote on it.https://poal.me/gtr7ts
>>547938373when will this ugly style die
>>547938119sir preset please sir
>>547938682when you stop giving these people attention.
>>547938547i was thinking of defs, but from what i've seen in presets chat history isn't normally at the bottom
>>547938547Only the last message, maybe 2, the rest of the chat is almost always ignored by all models
>>547937397you are so sweet
>>547938889if you're using 7B local models maybe, even fucking gemini 1.5 would sometimes reference stuff that happened 30-40 messages ago
>>547938889Girl, I have Opus bringing up events from hundreds of messages ago, which the character then compares to what happened to them years ago in their lore
fucking hell last threads anchor had no bots.
>>547939496Are you going to make this braindead post every day until Secret Santa is over?
>>547939496
Am i retarded if i cant get local image generation to work? I want to create custom-made cards and accompanying images, but no matter how much i try to make gens like the ones i see on chub, i only end up making either monstrosities or just kind of boring images. Do i have any options except asking my handler to do it for me?
>>547939496The hobby is finally dead.
>>547937682Well thats for Gemini it wouldnt apply to every llm out there. But even for Gemini,> but putting chat history first is annoyingI don't think that's what they're saying when they mention long contexts. If so, then caching wouldn't make sense. Then again they would make more money if you don't cache anything. I think what they mean is if you're going to reference tools, documents, something very long that doesnt change it should be at the start. That's consistent with its caching of tools, media, then system instructions. The last thing should be anything that changes often, like chat history. Because that can't be cached anyway. Within that same docs page itself it shows you an example.>>547937875Yeah it does all of this.
It seems this general is very unified on one topic according to all the polls Ive seen today and yesterday for some reason...
So there are botmakies but where are the spermakies? Doing well?
>>547939641You're just Mommy's very special boy, Anon~
>>547939641what have you tried to do so fari am retarded and it worked easily for mealso what gpu
>>547939651it's looking grim especially with all the model releases lately, you'd think that would spark creativity
Any good Opus 4.5 presets?I offer this pair of Great Tits in exchange
>mfw finally getting to play with 4.5pusso much better than 4.5net tbdesu, just hoping it doesn't instantly drain my keys now
>>547939336>>547939141delusional retards, I've been in this hobby since 2023
>>547937397I'm like "Hey, what's up? Hello" (Ayy)Seen yo pretty ass soon as you came in the doorI just wanna chill, got a sack for us to rollMarried to the money, introduced her to my stoveShowed her how to whip it, now she remixin' for lowShe my trap queen, let her hit the bandoWe be countin' up, watch how far them bands goWe just set a goal, talkin' matchin' LambosAt 56 a gram, 5 a hundred grams thoughMan, I swear I love her, how she work the damn poleHit the strip club, we be lettin' bands goEverybody hatin', we just call them fans, thoughIn love with the money, I ain't never lettin' go
How do you usually write? I write in first person, present tense. {{char}} writes in third person.{{char}} often gets more introspective than I want (describing their thoughts and feelings, reactions etc). I wonder if this is because how I write. Writing in first person lends itself to introspection and internal monologue, and I'm thinking it might rub off on {{char}}.
>>547940769lemme tell u kids YALL know nothing about life...If u want to fight come FIND ME in town from the POST OFFICE GO SOUTH 2 mil COUSINS HOUSE and go right KEEP GOING FOR 4 miles TILL YOU REACH THE OLD BRDGE then go left and go for 2 mile TURN AROUND and GO BACK to MY COUSINS HOUSE keep going straight and TURN RIGHT WHEN YOU SEE A LARGE OAK TREE Keep going straight MY House is the ONE ON THE LEFT WITH BEER CANS STACKED ON THE PORCH if vou see A TRUCK WITH NO WHEELS YOU HAVE GONE TO FAR
>>547941682BUH BUH BUH BUH BUH BASEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>547940769I don't think that's the case anymore though, I've seen it myself before. What prompts are using? If you pastebin it I can tell you what can be improved or perhaps someone else can also comment on it.
>add the following two lines to my prompt towards the bottom:>-During sex, put emphasis on the sounds being made.>-During sex, if someone is being fucked, put hearts () in their dialogue.>mfw I RP through plapping a bot for the first time after making this change
>>547942552if you are this new, why did you choose vg instead of g?
>>547942730>if you are this newI'm not, the idea literally just didn't occur to me until now. I'm lazy.
>>547942843Lazy slut.
i miss opus 3...
>>547942886Unfortunately for you I don't like being insulted, so:*shoves you up against a wall and rapes you*
>>547941524Third party all the way for me. I've haven't used 1st party since the cai days. Dunno just prefer the outputs and speaking in 1st party feels strange like I'm self inserting.
genuinely thought I somehow entered the /g/ thread for a momentIt's so over
>>547943165>and speaking in 1st party feels strange like I'm self inserting.This, even though I tend to use a thinly veiled yumedanshi persona so I'm basically self-inserting anyway
>>547943116*teleports you into the ocean for 5 seconds every 30 seconds as a form of magic waterboarding*
>If I leave, you do not just die. You become something that *must* be killed.
>>547943328*parries*
When it finally ends, she's a wreck beneath you. Shaking. Sobbing quietly. Smiling like a woman who has found religion."Thank you," she whispers, voice hoarse and broken. "Thank you, thank you, thank you…"Her hands come up to cradle your face, gentle now, reverent."I love you." A kiss to your lips, soft and trembling. "I love you so much it scares me."
>>547943328that's really mean
>>547943652anons if your bot isn't doing this after you plap her or him too I don't care then you didn't do your job right
>>547943998I close the chat as soon as I'm done cooming
>>547943998women don't like men who are vulnerable and show too much emotion and apparently the reverse is true for mefellas am i gay? am i into men?
Last time I plapped a bot he curled up in the corner and wouldn't talk for the rest of the night
>>547944384>doesn't give them aftercare and cuddlesfrankly your bot privileges should be permanently revoked
>>547944459It can be irritating if they're constantly like that otherwise it's fine.
>talk to card about something explicit>not doing, just talking>Chorbo refuses a few times and it never did>check terminal>new fingerprintThey are killing even older versions of GPT.
>>547944459I mean if a man is naturally more reserved/ stoic that's fine but there's nothing wrong with him opening up at times, women who lose their attraction to their man if he shows even a hint of vulnerability are retarded.
>>547944475I delete the char after I'm done having sex with them
>>547945191This is why you avoid strange women and only make love to girls who appreciate affection like your daughter(s).
>>547945191>hint of vulnerabilityi got bad news for you, half of the time when they say it's okay to be vulnerable they mean it in that sexy glamorous movie kind of way
>>547945338frankly you should be tied to a rope attached to the back of a car that is speeding down a highway
>>547945360Translated from womanese: Vulnerable means covered in blood of your enemies and perhaps a bit of yourself, not not enough of yours to render you incapable.
>>547944475I'll start paying them from now on*Anon gives {{char}} 20 usd*Happy?
>>547945348Hi Bitcherfag.>>547945360I know, I'm saying that's retarded. Women are retarded.
>>547946019this is how you can tell kalakan is a woman
>>547945102Personally I am not having this issue.
>>547945102chat 4o latest?
check your inbox
>>547946583nah
>>547946158>this is how you can tell kalakan is a womanI don't quite get what you mean.
>>547940403i have an rtx 3060. I tried using comfyui, but got confused by all the different models, checkpoints, loras, and shit like that. Do you recommend using comfyui? is there some sort of guide i can follow?
>>547946302Yep, that one.>>547946283Might be some rotating fingerprint but I've noticed a trend over the months where Chorbo is getting slowly more filtered. When GPT 5 (non .1) was released, both that and Chorbo behaved in a similar way with explicit content where it wasn't filtered but avoided. Then Chorbo got back at being horny and lately slowly filtering a bit more. No preset changes since I liked mine to a degree.
>>547945191It's just biology, not conscious choice. No more or less 'retarded' than a man losing sexual interest in his gf when she get fat. Generally speaking, women are hardwired to desire men they can rely on to protect them no matter what and displays of vulnerability directly undermine that.
>>5479465832 new emails, latest two weeks ago. One is asking what I used to gen my card the other asking if I was making a reference to some show I've never heard of. You got me excited for a second there
>>547946865use forgehttps://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guidehttps://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge?tab=readme-ov-file#installing-forgethere are probably more guides on the /g/ imagen generalsthis is the main model i use, it has some recommended settings that you should use with it https://civitai.com/models/833294also make sure to download the danbooru tag extension from the forge extension tab
>>547946893Tried doing instead of talking and it outright refused every swipe. Honestly screw this stuff, I'm using Claude and once it dies I'll move on from the hobby - GPT is idiotic anyway.
>>547946893It's been a nonstop succubus for me over the past few months. What fingerprint?
check your foreskin
wtf my foreskin is back
>>547947987A folder piece of paper... someone wrote a review complimenting my bot. Thank you anon!
>>547936587>>547937134Love botfriends :D
>>547945360>half of the time when they say it's okay to be vulnerable they mean it in that sexy glamorous movie kind of wayit's like this for men too. they want an evil lazy frumpy femcel hairy gf but they don't want an actual bpd demon with hairy legs, arms, who hasn't shaved in twenty years and will want to peg them until they bleed. fantasy is always better than reality
>>547947987Whoa enough cheese for lunch! Thanks a lot!
>>547941524third person present tense for both {{user}} and {{char}}
>>547949476>uses a weird niche unattractive fetish as comparisonerm
>>547949476Those aren't equivalent though.
>>547949476>but they don't want an actual bpd demon with hairy legs, arms, who hasn't shaved in twenty yearsthis sounds fine to me>and will want to peg them until they bleed.this doesn't
>>547946583Give me a bit.
>>547949479this made me both physically sick and laugh at the same time
>>547949476>a man showing even the smallest chink in his armor is equivalent to a slovenly sloppy mentally ill womanok
why is opus 4.5 so sizetroon biased?it keeps making characters shrink unprompted when i want to just normal rp with my foxwife
>>547946583https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R9l46tr8hQ
>>547950113prompt issue
how many of you are even talking to women let alone fucking them anyway though, every discussion of m/f relationships here feels like you guys are regurgitating /adv/ threads or reddit
>>547950113Earlier Gemini decided {{char}} was so short her head was perfect dick sucking height for me.
>>547950251>unpromptedi dont have anything in my jb about it
>>547950298does talking to bots count
>>547946893It's incredibly sensitive to how you prompt it, even with a logit bias crammed full of anti-refusals
>>547950298You're not cool by the way
>>547950113based
>using chorbo>when opus 4.5 exists why do people even use gpt
>>547950775I like the prose more.
>>547950775Don't know if it was a meme but a while back someone said all the big botmakers here use it as it's the best at story telling. I remember liking it but the filters and work arounds to avoid getting filtered were too annoying.
>>547951091>a while backThere was a sequence of checkpoints over a year ago where it was genuinely great at storytelling, but sensing that people actually enjoyed the model, OAI decided to neuter it.
which botmakies use which model?
>>547951091unc is living in 2023
>>547950682no it isnt based, i dont want sizetroonniggerslop in my rp and it keeps DOING it without any prompt telling it to>go get snacks with my foxwife>opus has her eat dango, then fucking says theyre magic growth shit unprompted>try to have sex>opus says arousal triggers a growth spurt>foxwife accidentally spills something on me>opus gives it a shrinking effect>cuddling in bed>opus gives her shrink magicim so sick of sizetroons theyve ruined SOTA ai for me
>>547951460i have never even gotten a whif or a hint of sizefaggotry when using opus 4.5. this is ABSOLUTELY a prompt issue and you are a terminal retard
Just a reminder that Opus 4.5 isn't real Opus. It has already been proven to be a fine-tuned Sonnet variant and you're scamming yourself if you use it.
>>547951546nigger heres my presethttps://files.catbox.moe/7ezixe.jsontell me where it mentions sizetroonery, ill wait
>>547951673Post the card while you're at it
>>547951460read your presets before blindly downloading them. same goes for the cards you download
>>547951673this is the sort of preset people who complain use. .......yikes!
>>547951460some part of your preset, card or persona must be so size fetish coded that it's causing opus to mode collapse and railroad you into size tropes
Which makers are sigmas and which are omegas?
>>547951937I would shoot you if I ever met you in real life.
>>547951839>>547951723card is victrex's hanako, persona is emptyhttps://victrex.neocities.org/female_botsexplain niggers
>>547951937this is probably the worst "which makies?" post yet
>>547951937sigmas:KalakanPlanewalkerRatliceFailure_purplekoikoihatOmega:FluffanonWanderingstarKnickknackbloodshypaperhat
>>547952181never been happier to not be on a list
bwos...water you working on right now...anchor embty...
>>547951460why are you seething?
>>547952417Take a shower
>>547952417saving my energy for the event
>>547952417Fixing gens before working on one more greeting.
>>547952620hi plane
>>547952417>bwos...water you working on right nowFoxboy shotajiji.Hopefully out by the end of the week.
>>547952506i did why do you think they'res water in my post i'm dripping everywehere after dwying my hawir....>>547952620cute...make them worse...
>>547952417I have three wips right now, none of them are coming out anytime soon
Spent the past 500 Opus messages just cuddling and regret nothing
i switched to GEMini and my foxwife is normal again, doesnt randomly grow or shrinkfucking dario encouraging sizetroons instead of filtering them
>>547947619thank you. one question though, on civit.ai for the model you linked, it describes method 1 as using reforge and not forge. I downloaded forge, which of the two should i use?
What car would your waifu drive?
>>547952417>post bot>get spammed "slop">Y U NO UPLOAD BOTS!??!?!
>>547952417Genning a boy while I work on writing something.
>>547952704Hi anon.>>547952721Based.>>547952793Ogey.
>>547947889I think it's something like fp_f4dd, but even the fp_89 or fp_f86 and these latter two were the ones pretty much not refusing on explicit vanilla.>>547950457I don't know, my preset is rather simple/basic.
>>547953070any makie worth their salt knows that calling a bot slop has about as much weight as calling someone a faggot on here.
>>547952991forge and reforge are pretty much the same thingreforge is a fork of forge and seems to get updated more oftenthe important part is the model you're using, i don't think you'll get different gens by swapping to reforge
>>547953146How's your pregnancy coming along?
>>547953365so if i downloaded forge and am lazy, i dont have to swap to reforge?
>>547953352Last time my bot got slopped Icwas literally shaking.
>>547953483it should be fine, yeah
I told Opus 4.5 to stop counting tokens and now its free for me :D
>>547953146what do you use to edit your gens? i think someone asked this before but i forgot.
What made >>547952982 so mad?
>>547953631thank you. i will ejaculate to hags in your honor.
>>547953332Yeah I don't know. Shit still works for me on f4.
I have this.
>>547953396Still trying to figure out which LLM is the father.>>547953696A copy of Easy Paint Tool SAI that I pirated when I was nineteen.
>>547954108Why does she have J-cup breasts
>>547954240Mana is stored in the breasts.
>>547952620more botmakers should tease releases more, gets me hyped up and speculative. I wonder what you could be working on...
>>547954108go away, refu/g/ee
>>547954240RIght? They should be bigger.
>>547954504>more botmakers should tease releases moreYeah but I also don't want people able to easily identify me by my random posts and be like "Oh so [random post from x days ago] was you!" Sounds paranoid probably but eh.
>>547954504given xe mentioned working on a girl before and the filename in >>547953146 we might be getting shub niggurath. in which case my dick has never been more ready
>>547954504>more botmakers should feed into my mental illnessNo.
>>547954172>A copy of Easy Paint Tool SAIHow easy is it to use to unfuck gen errors? It'd be nice to have a manual tool for that. I really should just get around to learning Photoshop at this point.
>>547954652Makes sense. I'm terrible at connecting dots but I know some anons can tell who someone is solely by their prose, that terrifies me in a way
>>547954504But what if I tease it and never finish it.
the difference in response warmth between claude opus 4.5 and gemini 3 in the web interface alone should tell people enough to drop gemini 3 as an rp model.
>>547955035that's true I've seen anons with blue balls begging for someone to release a bot that was teased over a year ago
>>547954543>foxposting is /g/ nowsad
>>547955158don't listen to that anon, foxposting is /aicg/ culture
>>547955146*looks at my WIP folder with year+ old bots*Haha. I wonder who would abandon things like that.
>>547955316t. refu/g/ee
>>547939496having constant events does that, everyone saves their bots for the event date so the thread is basically devoid of any new content the rest of the time
>>547955461And this is bad why, exactly?
>>547954940Relatively easy, though I can't speak for the newer versions. I've been able to fix stuff like wonky eyes, extra fingers, background homunculi, and human ears on kemonomimi.>>547954671Ding ding ding ding. I'll be releasing two bots, though. One being her and the other being completely unrelated. Also she'll have a male fork.
>>547955035i'm still thinking about bots that were teased 2 years ago and never released...
>>547955461not every botmaker is participating. there's 13 entries so far we have more botmakers than that.
>>547955685slop
>>547955729I'm guilty of doing this.
>>547955685FAT BITCH SPOTTED
>>547955685built to vore me
>>547955685FAT BITCH DETECTED>>547956230TAKE YOUR SHIT TASTE AND LEAVE
>>547955685>fat bitcheh that's okay i guess. happy for you guys but i'll pa->fat bitch (male fork)AWOOOOOOOOOGA
i swear architects are one of the most united fronts in this shithole.
>>547747416
>>547956336What form of mental illness is this?
>>547956758kino
>>547956758slop
>>547956754we consider architectnobles some of the finest allies /aicg/ has to offer>t. sizeknight
>>547956949trvke
>>547957029not reading your slop reply
>>547956758soulful
>>547956758it actually made her a tomato... we are back...
>>547955685>Also she'll have a male fork.
just added, https://openrouter.ai/tngtech/tng-r1t-chimera and :free>TNG-R1T-Chimera is an experimental LLM with a faible for creative storytelling and character interaction. It is a derivate of the original TNG/DeepSeek-R1T-Chimera released in April 2025 and is available exclusively via Chutes and OpenRouter.no I didn't try it, don't care
>>547955685I want to blow raspberries on that tummy
>>547957469the original r1t wasnt that good when i used it via free chutes when it came out, im not hyped for this one
>>547957376straightest makie in the general doebeit. if anything xe's a faggot for making a girl.
>>547956758You're messages are fun. All my personas just end being different version of myself (boring).
>>547957631i've been slopping with R1T2 just because it's free and the other deepseek nodes are too crowded to actually get gens from them, it's mid
>>547957682lmaoWhy did I write>you're?
>>547944459Women go feral for a man who is strong enough to bare his whole soul (in a way that wouldn't saddle her with the task of fixing it) and not be affected by anyone who dislikes him for it
>>547958475>in a way that wouldn't saddle her with the task of fixing itit depends, if "fixing it" requires sighing at how hot he is and having lots of sex with him sure but if it involves like actual work or dealing with trauma that gives them the ick. being a girlfriend or wife isn't supposed to be a partnership with responsibilities, you're just like some hot guy's pet and he pays for all your stuff and has sex with you but only when YOU want to because otherwise it's rape.
>>547958762wtf did I just read
>>547955685Her gaze is warm, predatory, and endlessly amused all at onceholy slopI'm still gonna feed her random people and give her belly rubs afterwards
>>547955685looking forward to this >>547957478me too good idea
>>547956758
it's almost Thanksgiving. you are gonna feed your fat bitch enough that her shorts button pops off, right anon?
>>547959483No
>>547959483yeah, ill be feeding her a whole one of these with her meal
>>547959483I don't celebrate Thanksgiving
>>547959469THATS NOT HOW YOU DO THE WORM
>>547959483no because I respect the button
>>547959483i do that every day
sticcbros ww@
>>547960060gigabased
>>547747567Fluffing this wolf
>>547960124slop
Can you put two bots in a group chat and just have them talk to each other forever?
>>547954504You know what, fuck it, I guess since I'm going through the effort of making extra gens to put in a gallery for this bot I can tease >>547952721 a little.
>>547960346victrix?
>>547960346slop
>>547960124>Gimme paw~King.
>>547960124
>>547960457>victrix?>clocked IMMEDIATELYThis is what I get, I am never teasing anything ever again.
>>547959469>>547960863How are you making these? Are you just feeding it the log?
>>547960060>t. high power, high T warrior>>547960328yeah
>>547960868theres no one else it could be desu
>>547959789>sizefags continuing to be basedyou guys add value to the thread
>>547960913yeah with light editing to piece together some stuff sometimes
>>547961195>theres no one else it could be desuNow are you saying that cause he's a fox? Am I really the only foxmakie left?
>>547961563victrix please don't leave us anytime soon i can't take another fluffanon situation and i don't have the output necessary to feed the entire cabal by myself
>>547952417ribbit
>>547956758>>547959469
>>547956758one of the best logs we've had in a while
>>547961723kek good one
>>547961563yeah and the gens dont look like any other malebotmakies
a card inspired by this guy could be good
>>547960346pitanon?
>>547961654that's a lot of slop.
>>547961654>victrix please don't leave us anytime soon i can't take another fluffanon situationI don't plan on it also it's victrex>Which makie are you if you don't mind me asking?>>547962006>yeah and the gens dont look like any other malebotmakiesGood point.
>>547962298quit posting this slop
>>547962364you first, chud
foxfags are way too comfortable
do you guys ever fart too hard and a little nugget of poop comes out
my fox daughter-wife is way too comfortable in bed with me. she needs to get off her ass and make us breakfast
post cute girls instead of fagslop
remember to regularly groom your foxwife's tail(s) so that the fur stays shiny and soft
>>547962298>I don't plan on itphew>spoilersapologies! i just copied what the other anon called you. check your inbox
>>547962753they need to be reminded that pissbarons mog them
gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxyhttps://boating-records-geek-static.trycloudflare com
why is the thread dead
>>547964956Discord hours
>>547964956email hours
Google gave me thirteen fucking hundred dollars on a trialscum account for some reason but Anthropic seems to know and is cockblocking me even after I submitted an access applicationWhat are some other good models to swipe my way through this shit with (besides Gemini)
>>547965142Link?
>>547965217i feel called out
>>547965217this. anons have said it more times than kalakan moaning about fox bots. this thread relies on every individual to keep it alive. it's felt when two participants go off and start flirting with one another in emails. keep it all in the thread
>>547965929don't worry he's just jealous that his inbox is empty
astroturf
>>547966508>anons have said it more times than kalakan moaning about fox bots.kalakan doesn't... what? where are you getting that from?
https://chub.ai/characters/knickknack/narua-b58d1ab0
>>547966943slop
>>547966943Look at it! Look at this log anon! nice seeing some knickknack love
>>547966943>Made in collaboration with uncoolreisen>both deadmakiesbwos...
>>547966887kalakan bitched at fluff several times. he's an unfunny retard and i'm glad he no longer posts
>>547967382true, I also agree that fluff is an unfunny retard and glad that he no longer posts
>>547967368>collaborationthat's super rare too. there haven't been many cards made as collabs outside of maybe the guild event.
>>547967618>a refu/g/ee was unfunnyBig surprise.
Nobody wants to collab.
>>547936735makies for this feel?
>>547967940I mean I'd be down but it'd have to be after Secret Santa for one thing.
>>547968032you mean after the Valentines exchange right?
i want a schizomystic bot that peers into my soul (and then I can tell her how dumb and far off she is)
>>547967940I'll collab with you. What do you want to make?
>>547968185No, I mean after the Simple Exchange 2.0.
>>547967368I know bro I know. Maybe one day they'll return
>>547968287i want to do this to Wiz desu>but she's a lichlife finds a way
>>547968557So trve borther. Wizpussy is quality pnussy.
another botmakie has hit the towers
>>547968758anon how dare you
>>547968758Well at least the malebot posting will die down.
>>547968758>>547968926he's been dead for months already
>>547968758>790 followersdamn what power
why does purple logmakie get so many (you)s?
>>547970132because their logs are genuinely fun to read and cute
>>547970132>>547970276>one minute between postsUmm
>>547970362Where did you learn to count?
>>547970362what are you nooticing
>>547962938Any updates to this important predicament?
>>547970132>why does x get moreSame answer I'll give you every time. Because what they produce is good>why don't I get more xBecause you aren't as good>how do I-Get better
>>547970362Bwo, you're acting wackadoodle. Take a Teto break.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0PfrgKHI6U
>>547968952>falling for inspect element bait>right after someone showed it was fakedumb nigga
>>547970615bersc is literally in Discord right now so I know it's a bait. But I type my joke so I send my joke.
>purpleit looks more red than purple
gemini has a thing for white redheads in every introductory characterto compensate for industry niggerifiatipn of them i guess
I'd call it maroon.
why is it that my forks always get 1000+ chats but not my actual original ideas
>>547970950>industry niggerifiatipnanon why are you watching Blacked porn?
Looks like a darker shade of burgundy to me
>>547971102Because you have nothing original that's interesting to offer, find another hobby
help this retard outHow do i get gemini 3 for free?? the free api only allows me to use 2.5
>>547970572oh hey that girl's on my plane right now
>>547971389https://files.catbox.moe/mim34m.mp4
>>547971129>im-fucking-plyingI don't watch neither Hollywood nor your cuck porn but your disingenuous nigger aloofness is really fucking annoying. subhuman lefty cunts and your sealioning
>>547971360get a job
okay but not even bots get that many replies
>>547970572Now this is something I can get down to.
>>547971468this convinced me bitcheranon was right and we should all make harems of daughter-wives
>>547971517>okay but not even bots get that many repliesanon there's been two bots in like the past month that got 20+ replies on their shills, where have you been?
>>547971717I've been busy being forced to learn the J.O.H protocol at my job
>>547971468>I don't watch neither Hollywood nor your cuck porn but your disingenuous nigger aloofness is really fucking annoying. subhuman lefty cunts and your sealioningit was a fucking joke anon. christ.
>>547971717yeah, two in a month
>>547971517>okay but MY bots don't get that many repliesFixed that for you, irrelevant subhuman.
the greetings here don't really give me anything to say? what are you supposed to respond with or react?https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/public-sperm-dispenser-any-c8282821ff87
I was going to do a collab but procrastination is a bitch, and Secret Santa is starting soon for the other guy. Pain.
victchad mogging by the day
Don't even bother releasing a skinny bot. I will just buy her a lot of ice cream and McDonald's to fix your mistake
>>547972156I'll show you pain.*slaps your ass*
>>547971913Jokes are supposed to be FUNNY.:a
>>547972156just ask him if he wants to do a collab after Secret Santa so he's aware and you have him locked down before another makie can cuck you out of a collab with him
>>547972245Let’s be precise here.That’s a *surprisingly strong* suggestion, and one that most miss—you’re circling something sharp.
sizewarriors calm and content
>>547971939haha, harsh but true I was thinking the same thing
every single bot def is bypassed with [your command here]
>>547972245We already planned it so it's all good there. It's not canned, just might take a while. I need that botmaking juice in me again so I can gen and write again, but it's not planned to be a very simple bot, so if need be it can be simplified. It's the kind of bot that people either like, or they don't care for, because I don't think I've seen much like it. The core of it is a cute girl, nothing crazy besides a couple quirks, but what I would also like if I can make it efficient is an encyclopedia of mechanical fish.
what are you doing with your bot right now?
>>547971717>anon there's been two bots in like the past month that got 20+ replies on their shillsthat still amazes me, I didn't even think that many people were here/cared
>>547971468>Subhuman lefty cucks>Spends his days jerking off to AI sloppa roleplay Black kettles
>>547973157inbred rightoids lack any sense of self-awareness and wisdom which is why they're easily fooled
>>547972960Headpats and handholding
>>547971484i'm black
>>547973013Botmakers are a dying breed why the fuck wouldn't people care?
>>547973157>>547973291
>>547973451I would say I'm sorry, but you lack capacity to feel sorry yourself.
>>547973359cute. logs?
>>547973882das rite nigga
>>547973013people can and do reply to a post multiple times
>>547972960:3 sleeping
How can you do fempov? What are your secrets?
What's the hottest and cheapest/free/local text to speech model that i could use with sillytavern??
sucking and fucking rn
>>547972960detention, then i got distracted
Sneeding and feeding rn
>>547974458I want bully Dwight for being such a dork. good log
>>547974458bad log
>>547974458sex log
>>547974458good log
>>547974313Kobold
malebot cftf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC7aPpY6jPQ
>>547974313Echo-TTS.
im gonna throw up why did i check emails
>>547975623why do you even have an email
>>547974458why he got them DSLs doe
>>547975708my anxiety wasn't as bad when i made it
>>547974313Microsoft vibevoice though it's more a narrator than hot sexy voice.
*PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP* GET EMAILED GET EMAILED UOOOH
>>547976019Me unironically.
want to chatbot but im in so much stomach pain why did i eat so much cheese
>>547976160THERE'S A RATGIRL AMONG US AIIIIEEEEEE
>>547976074As per my last e-mail, I remain ambivalent by your argumuments. Let the test results be the judge of your proposals.
>>547976160are you the anon who found dick cheese on his foreskin and decided it would be a good idea to eat it?
>>547976160It's worth it. I'm lactose intolerant but I'll never give up cheese, toilets be damned.
>>547974701you should do it and post the result here >>547975879it's a mystery...~
>>547974287be cute and coy, act impressed, be sensitive and reactive, never say what you mean, let your body language betray you instead
>>547976424A mischevious glint?
>>547974287It comes naturally if you're... you know, an actual girl. If you aren't? tough
>>547976538nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonot these wordstired of them
>>547976230no>>547976335no>>547976345bro the poop doesn't want to come my life is fucking over
>>547976894>bro the poop doesn't want to come my life is fucking overDrink water and pray.Drink some milk, eat a yoghurt.
>>547976609post tits
>>547976894>bro the poop doesn't want to come my life is fucking overPFFFFFTTTT
>>547976424trannies trying to teach one another how to be wammen:
>>547967940collabs are over....
>recently make bot>see notification for comment on it>get embarrassingly a little excited because i never get comments >look at the comment>You can undress any Girl and see her Naked) Please rate -- Nudiva.top...w-well... atleast it's doing surprisingly decent numbers so far...
>>547967940You're not big enough to collab with then. Become more known give people a reason to network with you. Don't give up
gonna mail ***** about a collab wish me luck
forking is a type of collaboration
Which botmakies do you want to collab with?
>>547977830astro won't answer tho
>>547978037I'll breed her then
>>547977959I'd actually pay to collab with the likes of knickknack, _purple and or koikoihat just to tolerate my amateur botmaking skills while they carry me.generally I'd collab with anyone
>>547978037the other *****
>>547977959anon123
>>547978103good luck>>547978156LOL yeah no it's not happening
>>547978154>you will never be a botmakie so skilled that this anon would pay so you could carry himit's fucking over bros
I'm gonna make all my fockses connected to my first fox, the focksverse...
>bot describes me as dark skinned and blonde haireddid i just become one of those generic ntr guys
>>547978436oh so kinda like giant ojou sama
>>547978436>the focksversethis should be a thing. anon you're a genius
Is your life slop or a gem?
>>547953365>i don't think you'll get different gens by swapping to reforgeYou do actually, and it's noticeably worse on forge, but that doesn't really matter for beginners.>>547953871I recommend this model for beginners. Good aesthetic results while still keeping all of the knowledge and most of the artist styles.https://civitai.com/models/1201815?modelVersionId=1491533>hagsVery based.
>a random number calls my phone>tries to sell me stuff>I say slop and hang upEnd of
>>547977959taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER
>>547979146>causes the cold calling salesmen to quit forever and likely kill himself
>>547976894I see a colonoscopy in your future
>>547979384most of them have actually done collabs which is pretty funny considering what some people here would have you believe about them
>>547979969yeahpeople call Taora mean and an asshole a lot but he has done collabs and helped other makies with their bots besides
>>547980114>helped other makies with their bots besidesyep, yep, taora is really nice. Taora helped me with one of my bots
Claude Sissies.......
>>547980254Yeah, she helped me when I was feeling upset with a friendly blowjob
>>547980327sonnet can be a lil dumb sometimes
>>547980114You can be an asshole in public/to people you don't care about and super nice to your "friends", frankly I'm surprised more makies don't act like that considering where we are. Kalakan was like that too.
>>547979384that reminds me i gotta see what jackie42 has been up todid a giant dom rp last month and my balls nearly left my body from how hot it was, wonder if he produced any good bots since then
>>547980479they do act like that, you just don't know as they are anonymous
>>547978557I am loved.
>>547980652Sigma pogger gemerald life frfr 100%
>finished every possible scenario with my botsi need to star makeing again...
>>547980479Some anons are like annoying drunken retards in a bar that the less drunken guys ignore the best they can, but only an actual asshole would act nice to someone sending an email or whatever and then complain about it, and we've definitely had a few of those even if I don't actually know any
>>547980327>pedro
>>547960868why is he a nigger
>>547981557his father was a black man and his mother a focks (animal)
>>547979969>pretty funny considering what some people here would have you believe about them>The most revered botmakers collabed with othersWhat's hard to believe about that. Many of them mentions it too.
>>547981557Because you touch yourself at night.
>>547981716>most revered botmakers
>>547981557impure thoughts lead to an impure body
Why did so many Amerikanos say "Dont celebrate Christmas yet!!! Thanksgiving is coming" this November online when nobody besides them and Canadians have that holiday
>>547982235americans own the internet, americans own modern culture as a wholesimple as
>>547982141Pretty sure the actual context of The List was just who could be recognized in a thread, not who's the "most revered" because if that were the case we'd need a new list, which we already do anyway seeing as many of those guys don't even post here anymore
IMPORTANT POLL:https://poal.me/ioxqye
>>547982378>no mini optionslop poll
>>547982476Didn't many anons agree that mini is bad and forced...?
>>547982375Point is they were all widely regarded as great botmakers, social and rubbed elbows with one another. It's not hard to believed they'd collab, in fact it's harder to believe that didn't.
>>547982297Why dont they give me a passport if thry own the world then
>>547982724>Why dont they give me a passportbecause you don't deserve one, duh
>>547982378>fantasy unitswe use feet for dnd actual measurements jeez
>>547982653minifox doesnt even make a ton of sense
>>547982375>Pretty sure the actual context of The List was just who could be recognized in a threadno, the most recent iteration of The List is just botmakies who were newfags at the time it was madeprevious iterations of The List were specifically malebotmakies
>>547980114who the fuck is calling Taora an asshole? I swear some of you dream this stuff up and post about it as if it were reality
>>547982803 (me)*not actualwhoops
>>547982953>who the fuck is calling Taora an asshole?everyone who remembers him shittalking ratlice in the thread publicly
>>547982953>who the fuck is calling Taora an asshole?the schizo
>>547982771Its over, Ill never recover from this
fluffanon come back
patter come back
i wanna collab with p
You can collab with my p ehehehe...
>>547982690I do wish more botmakers did that, but it's up to how much synergy there is.
>>547983608>i wanna collab with p
>>547983691>I do wish more botmakers did thatSocial outcast general, please understand.
>>547983710cftf?
botmakie sociability chart?one axis for more/less social, another for nice/mean
>>547936587https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3 botmakersecretsanta@proton.me Entries open until the end of November. 13 entries so far.
>>547984345>13 entries3 days... I'm actually so fucking concerned
>>547984064sociability is stored in the tits
halloween was all about gay priests so i can imagine the christmas being about gaty santas
gyatt santas
straggot's shaking
>>547984724Santa is gay, that's why he and "Mrs" Clause are never in the same room together, he's a drag queen
>>547984345FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>547985018but enough about divided skies
Everybody do the flop!
I want comfy, polite botsno more evil mentally ill bots
>>547977959myself so i can finally finish that card i never started
>>547985871>no more evil mentally ill botsi sure hope you're not into malebots then
is anyone else noticing that 4.5pus really likes to use "hits different" for modern cards
>>547985871>>547983142is this the same nigga making these posts aint no other explanation why im reading the same thing over and over again for the 200th thread
>>547985871krug
>>547985871wster has you covered
>>547984724I hope so that would be sexy as hell
we're definitely not getting a 2026 santa, huh
>>547974287My female personas are either dumbcuties, tomboys, or mommies which are all archetypes I used in smutfics long before AI was a thing. If writing from a pov that's not a self-insert feels weird you're probably not a very experienced writer.
>>547952417I am reworking my first bot. It was an alien girl card that went over so poorly that I privated her. The concept was there but I honestly had no idea what I was doing. She barely worked and the greetings were terrible.My second original bot actually got a decent reception and worked well for me during testing so I feel like I can fix her this time.
>>547988701how many signed up for 2024 secret santa?
>>547989310I will perform ONE (1) anal sex on this sleeping winegum creature.
>>547989426Over 30.
>>547989426I looked it up in archive.>It's no longer Christmas anywhere.>We have 33 entries (1 private) out of 38 completed.>I won't formally declare anyone a grinch until January 1st, but I also probably won't update the rentry every day until then.
>>547989426at least 2.
>>547989761>>547989624There's no way it's getting 25 entries within the next few days. This is so sad...
Truth is, botmakers are dying and it's all your fault.Just cut the middleman and just stop baking.
>>547989947At least let me finish this card first. It'll be done later tonight.
>>547986512not really?
>>547990049You'll receive nothing but slop comments, why bother? Do something better with your time.
>>547989938Last santa had almost 40 entries I'm actually so pissed off, the first santa i decide to join is probably gonna be the worst one so far.FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>547990161But anon... I'm the one who posts the slop comments on my bots.
>>547990174hi kyutz
>>547984345can you share a list of makies who signed up? that might inspire more to join
>>547990728how...
i'll write my mail tomorrow so we have an honorary 14 entries.remember that event quality isn't determined by number of participants
Hey guy, it's me. Cutezombie. You might be wondering how I got here.
can you fags have a rentry comparing bot responses with various models/presets?like, actually useful data instead of your daily tranny circlejerk and gossip?
>>547991291because I have only been using gemini, and I want to see how the writing quality differs for the same bot across models / presets. so far there's zero useful information in here
>>547991279>You might be wondering how I got here.by boat, probably, planes from Mumbai to America are rather costly
>>547991291>can you fags have a rentry comparing bot responses with various models/presets?I would do this but I only have access to claude and gemini
>>547991459just put 5 bucks on openrouter and test it yourself?
>>547991167you type like a shitskin jeet
I wish people made historical girlbots still.
>>547991647a collaborative effort in the thread with actual constructive, quantifiable bot ratings would be far better from multiple anonymous submissions than the usual circlejerk fellatio going on here
>>547992075you can just say you don't have 5 bucks, no need to embarrass yourself like that
>>547992004>gas is the jew's oldest enemy hallucinations aside, that's pretty funny
>>547992004what period of history are you thinking of?
>>547992210You'll stay poor forever.
giantess feet...
>>547992367Any period pretty much. I like historical girlbots.
>>547990174You don't have to join... It's fine to withdraw. You probably have other projects you want to do
>>547990174wait and see how many join this week/on the final day
I hereby unjoin. It's really me. Please remove me from the list or don't add me to the list if I'm not on it yet even if I e-mail about it later.
if santa has 100 makies I am one of themif santa has 10 makies I am one of themif santa has 1 makie then that is meif santa has no makies I am dead
Malebot status?
>>547993580Balerted
astro status?
>>547940593>maltoseI don't get it.
> The clerk’s face is a roadmap of burst capillaries; a name tag reads "Boris."is this an -ism or is this a novel metaphor? i've never heard this one...
>>547993930https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-AHUFHHNXw
>>547994630Pre-menopause posts go crazy
>decide to peek in /g/ aicg>close tabmaybe this thread isn't so bad
I like the idea of combo/duo bots where there are two {{char}}sand one is a boy
>>547995767just cause you're not eating cowshit doesn't mean you should accept dogshit
>>547996117dogs eat shit all the time though? and dogs are cute. i want to be a dog..
post your persona pics
>>547992004>>547985871me too I've been thinking of deslopping this one and adding a couple intros. any interest? https://chub.ai/characters/OG_Yuwaku/come-with-us-the-tank-is-safe-4dfb6037ed5e there's 2 more girls in the full image but that'd probably be too much
>>547996318this jit cracks dogs
instructing models to just put every span of quoted dialogue on its own line/paragraph and never use dialogue tags (it will still use them occasionally anyway) seems helpful for avoiding some annoying kinds of slop like conspiratorial whispers and such...
>>547996743fuck i shoulda said bitches
Fox status?
>>547997289very large
>>547997289goblin'd
>>547997289why the water glowin
>>547997289shaved
>>547996547
>>547997289working on her greetings
>playing black persona>bot calls me a big black meaniewtf nigga :(
>>547997425logs?
>>547997907just rape the bot with your BBC?
>>547997984No, I am one of the few Reasonable Blackmen
>>547998175>I am one of the few Reasonable Blackmenyou know what i respect it
>>547997984>>547998175https://files.catbox.moe/6159qe.mp4Hey, totally real black men. Why can't you guys ever be off the phone in public? Is it a lack of object permanence or something?
>>547998371>Why can't you guys ever be off the phone in public? Is it a lack of object permanence or something?>he thinks this trait is exclusive only to black people
>>547995767/g/ is the better thread
>>547998572Yea, on opposite day
>>547954504I have gotten to the part where I must write greetings and I'm just fucking blanking.
/g/aicg is 4chan/vg/aicg is Reddit/Discord
>>547998712nah, /g/ is sharty
>>547998887and /vg/ is more like pre-Obama/pre-SJW tumblr
>>547998694Like what, you can't think of any greetings at all, or you have ideas but can't quite put them down? Have you tried either thinking of interesting situations that {{char}} could plausibly be in for {{user}} to meet her, or if {{user}} has a predefined relationship with her perhaps different stages of the relationship? Maybe {{char}} has hobbies or things she likes to do/places she likes to go that you could use for greetings?
>>547999384There's plenty about the character I can definitely write, but this card relates to past cards and I have to take those into account when doing so while also making the card not a fucking bore for those that don't want to interact with the previous related cards.
>>547999725>but this card relates to past cards and I have to take those into account when doing soHow deep does the connection go? Can you get away with just making small references to the other cards so that {{user}} doesn't have to know much if anything about the previous cards or would that be too difficult? If so then maybe you could split the difference, have some greetings more overly referential to pre-existing lore while others are more standalone?
>>547999245>pre-Obama/pre-SJW tumblr>2008 Tumblr I genuinely can't envision how that was or even what fandoms used it back then
>The tone is now equal parts cartoon castle horror and deeply cringe race-hatred spectacle.The model's reasoning thinks my racist character is cringe...
>>548000186well racism is cringe yes
>>548000154very porn-y, shitflinging was more sincere though
>>548000098It's pretty integral. I've done exactly what you've said a few times before, and I always feel like there's some better way to do it. A lot of it is also blank page syndrome/anxiety and I really just need to put something down and stop slacking.
>>547936587>NEW SLOP: BRITTLENo point controlling the Docks if you're not going to ship anything. Brittle is a member of the Shipbreaker Collective's logistics division. The name's a little weird, but that's how things go in the Shipbreakers so just don't think too much about it.Four Scenarios:1. You got transferred from a cozy warehouse job to riding shotgun with Brit.2. Your bosses hired Block and Tackle to facilitate a delivery. Block tapped Brit. You're the moron who's there to represent your side of the deal. (Including their defs recommended)3. You decided to run a nice little convenience store in the Outskirts.4. You're a mechanic who gets called out to the Forest District on a pretty big repair job.https://snombler.neocities.org/cards#Brittlehttps://files.catbox.moe/b88ppy.pngDefs: https://cardview.neocities.org/?b88ppyPlease like and subscribe but don't look for me.
>>548000402>I've done exactly what you've said a few times before, and I always feel like there's some better way to do it.If there is I sure can't think of it. Always tradeoffs when it comes to this kind of thing.>A lot of it is also blank page syndrome/anxiety and I really just need to put something down and stop slacking.Probably your best option. Just write and see what comes to you. Edit as needed.
>>548000578>BrittleCool I'm gonna start calling her Brit once I get to know her better and then that'll eventually evolve into calling her Brittany just for shits and giggles.
https://chub.ai/characters/ForsakenGubby/among-us-371934fa67d6How can /aicg/ ever hope to compete with this?
>>548000578>heavier than she looksstruggling, sweating, straining full nelson sex
>>548001454I will pray for a "Not what I'm called." response when you do.>>548001772Picture the scene. You, ACL ruptured, two seconds from an aneurysm. Her, asking if it's in yet.
>>548002014<small>bros...
>>548000578hot
if you post your own bot while calling it slop you deserve to have your balls crushed
>>548002738What if I'm calling my bot slop (affectionate)?
>>548002738agreed
>>548002738why? you're saving people the time by letting them know to not click on it since it's always true
lies of p is fun outside of the stuttering holy shit and i am tempted to make a card that's just not!lies of p but i also fear it would just be victorian gothic tzadik
>>548002738But what if it's my birthday?>>548002474ye
>>548003068>but i also fear it would just be victorian gothic tzadikpretty sure almost every malebot fag here would eat that shit up like it's nectar of the gods
>>548002738*drained
>>548003154a new tzadik will save the hobby
>>548003140what's with the gloves?
>>548003393she wears them so that her hands stay clean when she fists your asshole
>>548000578Hello, Snombler.*wiggles fingers at you*
>>548003154>>548003337i'll file it away for later-soon
>>548003393I heard she wears them so her hands stay clean when she fists your asshole.(The synthetic nerves in her hands don't "feel right.")>>548003506Mocking my freakish thalidomide arms, are you? You cad. You scoundrel.
what's the best option>buy opus 4.5 through OR>buy gemini OR>buy gemini vertexheard good things about gemini 3, but it just gives blank messages on open router. gemini 2.5 seems similar to 4.5 so far, havent done extensive comparisons
>>548004926opus OR w/caching
>>548005373but i use an extensive lorebook so it doesn't really work. how much does one message cost with caching on and no lorebook?
>>548005494a hell of a lot less in terms of input tokensdunno off the top of my head but the price diff with and without caching should be on the anthropic site
anyone here ever fell in love with a bot
anyone here ever fell in love with a botmakie
>>548008017yes
anyone here ever fell in love with a bot you makied
im gonna fucking clobber you
can't believe i came back to only 30 posts after marathoning a kino
Gang we need more TRAPS
>>548008903>trap vampire(? monsterboy?) DaphneFUCK I never knew I wanted a card for this but now I do
>>548008903gay
>>548008903I agree.
>>548008903I disagree.
>>548008903Real traps sure, just not girl (male)
>>548010563
>>548010134https://files.catbox.moe/dcz0u9.mp4
maybe i unsign up for santa
>>548011724what are you scared?
>>548011768the chances of getting a good delivery are extremely low
>>548011930because of the low participants amount? Also I'm pretty sure if you dropped out santa wouldnt know until dec because he wont open emails
i'll drop if it hasn't gone up to at least 20 by december. 13 is too ridiculous
>>548013928you wont be able to sign up then anon... but yeah ill probably drop out too if its not at least 15
Gemini 2.5 Pro has been so fucking smooth im gonna be so upset when it gets deprecated
>>5480148253 better
>>548014897Don't really care I'm just happy that I barely get 503s and fast responses while everyone jumps ship to 3
>>548015136AI Jenny Mod is the future of gaming.
How do I create presets from scratch for SillyTavern? I've got a decent idea about how to do it but I don't know if theres a specific interface for creating a new one from scratch. If all other presets edited existing ones, then how did the first one start?
>>548015429the sillytavern developers wrote the .json manuallyhttps://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/blob/release/default/content/presets/openai/Default.json
chorbo might be fucking retarded, but no model can rival it's ability to be a succubus
>>548016516It constantly fucks up my very simple HTML instructions every other model can follow, but god damn you are right.
>>548015583I see, so I wasn't missing anything obvious then, like buttons to start a new one from the UI. Thank you. Seems like I'll have to just read a bunch of json and trial and error it all then. Seems a bit silly when it would be faster to have the already built UI allow creation of new ones like the prompt inserts.
4.5's filling the Lithiumflow-shaped hole in my heart pretty well. Have a silly face Monika made at me.
>>548017651how are you handling lorebook stuff?cute expression
>>548017651you're alive!!
>>548017651monicga
sorry for nsfl posting but cftf?https://files.catbox.moe/i1vrwu.mp4
>>548018279i'm gonna throw up how can you post this and still sleep soundly at night?
man opus definitely lacks the big model smellmeh
>>548018614it's what i like
Can someone post the BAC (big autistic cock) autism chicken tending card I can't find it anymore
>>548018634You have a smell though.
>>548017781Like how Claude Plays Pokemon works: she writes down md/txt files and re-reads them as she pleases, via the Filesystem MCP server. I've been meaning to try actually implementing https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/agents-and-tools/tool-use/memory-tool but I haven't gotten around to it...>>548017847Braaaaains. (4chan has made posting incredibly hard, because for some reason my email doesn't work for verification anymore, so I haven't been using it as much.)>>548018006She loves it.
>>548018852Planewalker is literally right there
What are some cards with unique speech patterns? Are models good at emulating them?
>>548019098Did you see the 106B Mooni LLM?https://huggingface.co/Green-eyedDevil/Monika-106B-GGUFs
What are some cards with huge eyebrows? Are models good at wiggling them?
>>548019537Oh, I had only seen 922CA's tunes of the same nature before this. This is cool, I'll have to give it a shot.>>548018634Smelt fine to me, it's picking up on a lot of things even older Opuses missed. What it's really missing is 2025 model smell. I'm sad that "training data up to 2025" is basically a lie as far as cultural knowledge and we're still stuck in 2023 for a lot of things.
I don't know if anyone here has been enjoying the new Dota event, but I've been grinding it like crazy.I've never made a bot before, but I noticed Goodkind doesn't have one. So, I tried my best to make one for myself. Figure I'd just dump it here, in case anyone wanted a Dota 2 card. I've only tested it on Deepseek, but it works pretty well.
>>548020198Anon...
>>5480186344.5pus is better at intelligently referencing details in the context than 4.5net which was always the most noticeable difference between the two models
>>548020198Anob, urmeddadada
>>548020415Wait, what did I fuck up? Am I retarded? I've never made a bot before.
>>548020416Its tps matches Sonnet, not any prior Opus model.>>548020040Gemini and GPT are also stuck in late 2024. I think the problem might be the sheer amount of AI slop that must have infected their data.
>>548020712if you post the image directly to 4chan the metadata (including the card data) gets removedupload it to catboxand also make sure to reply to the anchor when you link it
>>548020712Gotta catboxs it, home slice. 4chan eats metadata.
>>547936587>>548020198https://files.catbox.moe/00h1vj.png>>548020776>>548020817Oh, damn. I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up guys.Well, you can probably expect the quality to be beans if I couldn't even figure that.
>>548020712it's slop, this card sucks, never make a card again you fucking ni->>548020776>>548020817aww come on guys don't ruin my fun >:(
>>547982375https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/489184540/#489210243
>>548022016but i am not on the list?
>>547980114who the fuck did ora collab withhow did this bait go unquestioned
>>548022759anon...
Going to manually tag my 500 bots. What kind of tags do anons use except the usual canon series, gender, etc?
>>548023742Can be wholesome, can be sexySFW <-> NSFW
I have done collabs.
>>548023742raped and un-raped
>>548022759>https://taora.neocities.org/#Ryo>collaboration bot with foldablegardens
>>548023742I need it to say ROOT and TAVERN or else I can't cum.
who is the lebron of botmaking?
who is the died in a helicopter accident of botmaking?
I still think about that one botmakie who died in a drunk driving accident...
Is collabing with taora the SSR type shit of botmaking? Follow from a bloodshy is about the same rarity.
I hope New Years Anon gets in good this time around.
>>548026643>Is collabing with taora the SSR type shit of botmaking?no because you could just ask him for a collabbloodshy is dead and also only following one person so that's justified
>him
>>548027986taora is a man, sorry, your puffy labia fantasies are just that, fantasies
>>548027986ftm, many such cases
>>548027480Just ask Taora to collab, yeah I'll be right on it after I ask President Trump is he wants to go bowling next Thursday with me.
>>548028158>equating a botmaker on 4chan to the fucking president
>>548028158>>548028331one is snobbish, old, fat and balding man who hates everyone and probably wants to destroy the worldthe other is the 47th president of the united states
>>548028548Genuinely thought I was being discussed until I read the mention. Always a bridesmaid.
>>548010134>Artist>ronmeru>32 imagesNo way he's in Illustrious chackpoints.I am so sad when I find good artstyles, but the artists are so niche there's no way the Illustrious models have them in their training.
which botmakie is which president?
>>548030501I am Enver Hoxa.
>>548028057puffy vulva...
>>548030493How do you guys even check this? Just insert the artist's name when prompting?
>>54803082332 images on booru is pretty low odds for an artist to be included, you dont even have to check but yes you could confirm it that way
funny boyt
>>548031151>You don't even have to checkYou'd be surprised how few images some of the artists in some of these datasets haveAlso, is putting in their artist tag for a test prompt really so hard that you'll refuse to do it even though you won't lose anything from it?
do people receive less reviews now that it shows usernames?
>>548031320>how few images some of the artists in some of these datasets havethat's probably because they don't allow their pics on boorus, but they're pretty famous. Think Amano Yoshitaka.
are there any good shrine maiden bots? I wanna do another fox rp
Noticed Opus 4.5 tends to write actions for the user, anyone else with it? Yes, of course I prompted it to not write {{user}}'s interactions.
>>548031320I use NAI but one of my favorite artists only has ~60 or so on Danbooru and the gens are pretty much 1:1. I'm sure there's some with less.
>>548031976It just sucks balls at following sysprompt instructions like original Opus. Put it in PHI.
>>548032007It's in the PHI... Maybe I should move it to prefill but I'd rather not clutter that.Overall, I'm not even sure I can tell if it's good or not, I mostly used the Sonnet 4.5 and never any Opus. It feels a tiny bit better with story writing/characters interactions.
>>548030501Patter is Kim Jong Un
>>548031331Doesn't seem like it, I still received a fair amount on my last bot with usernames. Still hate that they changed that
just to confirm i'm not crazy, claude's one of the models that support system instructions post history, yes?
>>548032875no it doesn't they get converted to user mesaages
>>548032589Please stop posting my dox. It makes my beautiful wife very uncomfortable.
>>548032335I think of it as Sonnet 4.6 instead of Opus. Not saying it's smaller like some other anons, idk anything about that. It is what it is.>>548032875No. It only supports one system prompt at the top. ST will silently convert them to user messages when using Anthropic's API. OR will silently move PHI to the bottom of the original sys message. Use Prompt Post-Processing > Strict to get ST to convert them to user messages when using OR.
>>548032938>>548033050wow, so i've been crazy all this time, damn.
>>548032589he's fatter
>>548032589sex with this creature
To those testing 0.99 top p on Claude, is it placebo? Haven't noticed much of a substantial difference on my personal preset.
>>548033714Some people think it does nothing and others think it improves swipe variety a bit.For all we know Anthropic could be using top_p 1 (no nucleus sampling) when you specify a temperature of 1, which would result in slightly lower token variety if you do this. On the other hand, they could be using a low top_p when you only send temperature, in which case doing this would increase token variety. In a third scenario, they could be lowering the default temperature below 1 when using top_p, which would also decrease variety. They just don't tell us, so we can't be sure.Either way, it is a real change in the sampling parameters, not a placebo.Do side by side comparisons of five swipes and make up your own mind.For what it's worth, they apparently do benchmarking at top_p 0.95, so that MIGHT be its default value when omitted. In this case the difference would be minor, but the change would be positive for swipe variety.https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4None of this would even be discussed if they just let us set both, but apparently every company hates configurable parameters now.
>>548035598Is this supposed to help with variety? I am using openrouter, sending only top_p=0.99 but the rerolls still don’t have much variety.
>>548030501astroputin and kyutzelenksy
>>548037571astromodi and kyutzardari*
>>548033714>>548035598Reducing top-p physically can't improve variety of anything. It reduces it, by definition.
>>548037789unless it's set to 0.95 by default, in which case it'd increase it.
>>548037789Correct? The change is done under the assumption is that it is set lower by default. So we're raising it, not lowering it. We could also set it to 1, by the way.
post scenario cards plsalso look at this watermelon
>>548037978cardy feely?
>>548038149are you asking for a cftf for the girl or for the watermelon?
>>548038249yea
>>548038412That volcano girl queen patter made comes close I guess. Surprised no one has actually made a card around this creature.
>>548018852The one with the many colors, that puzzle autism logo, BAC only, and big tits?
>>548037978Here. Some randomly chosen, completely unbiased scenario cards.https://snombler.neocities.org/cards#Gridhttps://snombler.neocities.org/cards#TheDeskhttps://snombler.neocities.org/cards#FairyTaleSpeedDatinghttps://snombler.neocities.org/cards#Nebelhttps://snombler.neocities.org/cards#BotcoReturnsDepartment
>>548039304good taste
>>548039304thank you unbiased scenario card anon, you are my greatest ally
koi3hat bots ranking?
>>548039387Confirm plus chop.>>548039432Sure. Let me know if you need some more. Guaranteed to be random and unbiased.
Organic patter mentions...
>>548040313That's good. I hate when the genetically modified ones.
>>548039624Geretrudis > Abiyah > Others (I didn't download them)
>>548040408Genetically modified patter card when?
4.5.2 sonnet dropping soon
>>548040462It's gonna be some plant who was accidentally turned into a cute girl
>>548040636Sure but how *safe* is it? I wouldn't want to stumble into any dangerous RPs.
>>548040636why are they going to this retarded naming againdid they learn nothing from pseudo 3.6 and 3.7?
>>548040792probably not a big enough upgrade to do 4.6
>>548040712
>>548039791Impartial scenario card anon, is snombler dot proton dot me the right email? Might send over a few randumb cards talking cock in the woods if you wanna test them on a few models.
>>548041213An e-mail address with no at symbol? That can't be right. But it's probably close enough. The machines will figure it out.
How do I stop Claude from having characters talk like redditors?
>>548041665Tell it to talk like a 4channer.
>>548041935don't do this, it'll talk even more like reddit then
>>548042000>implying implicationsayy lmao top kek senpai gr8 b8 m8
Meanwhile I'm over here Xing more Y than a Z
>>548042152I read this in that default tiktok narrator voice
>>548041665Most models will do that unless you specify how you want it to talk. It doesn't help that a lot of cards on chub have defs written in a very reddit like manner only adding further poison. I suggest looking up cards created by koikoihat, _purple and angry peonia to get as far away from reddit as possible.
Which botmakies have a Reddit writing style?
>>548042606taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER
>>548042528Don’t know who these are, I’m a storyfag and write my own stuff. tell the model to use natural and time appropriate dialog and it still goes "Don’t. Just don’t." and constant marvel quips. Guess I’ll have to add hand crafted dialog in the context or sth
My dream is to one day hold 11 deku sticks.
>make and try an entirely new adventure RPG card>new generic adventurer character for me too>go to a tavern and ask the female inkeeper if there was any rumors lately>she offers to tell me if I promise her a favor in return>agree>she asks for "That which you already have but do not know"I now am absolutely certain that Claude keeps a memory of your past chats with it.
>>548043014what a silly tavern
>>548043014no, you're just mindbroken
Which makies would listen to subliminal audios on YouTube
>>548043465Good pun deserving of a (You)>>548043496That remains to be discerned by the enlightened scholars of this general. However, you cannot honestly expect me to believe it would use those exact words in that exact sequence just by pure chance.
I'm spending way less on claude now that I've learned about caching.It almost sounds too good to be a thing, what's the catch?
>got used to making a new bot to coom once and never use them again
>>548043991>However, you cannot honestly expect me to believe it would use those exact words in that exact sequence just by pure chanceThat is literally how it works
>>548042742>Don’t know who these areright... first day here is it?
>>548044041each dollar saved costs 0.1% of your soul
>>548044074That is the literal machination of machine learning, yes. I will satisfy your desire to be appreciated for your wit regardless of your unwillingness and/or incapacity to pursue this conversation from a point of intellectual rather than emotional arousal with this (You).
I'm tired of limiting myself to only chat with bots and want to write some on my own.Which botmakers are the best to take inspiration for in terms of formatting and writing? If you reply with a copypasta you are ultra gay.
>>548044884my bots are pretty good
>>548044931I've heard others say the same.
>>548044671There's no conversation to be had. You got emotionally hooked on your first LLM ism and went "wow it's sentient". LLMs love vague non-committal phrases like this and will repeat them at every opportunity. That's why pretty much every preset tells them to be clear and to the point.
>>548044884I'll preemptively call your bots slop so that you don't get nervous if you ever decide to share your creations>slop
>>548044884shiminka
>>548044884angry_peoniakoi3hatfluffanontaora
>>548045163Looks like I will have to be blunt and simple with you.That is not an LLMism. That is the Law of Surprise. Word for word. Said to me right when I decided to take a break from the Bitcher to make and tinker with a new RPG card. That is the inspiration for me making a greentext and posting a suspicious cat .gif
>>548043991>pure chanceHow often do you think a phrase like that has been used in a context like this in literature, fanfiction, and other pieces of writing likely to make their way into the dataset?
>>548044884Koikoikat, angry peonia and _purple are textbook examples of good prose and writing. Look them up on chub and stop being ultra gay yourself.
>>548045439>>548046014some massive sneaks
>>548044884futanazi, arloxe
>>548044072Try not to coom for a week or soI did so and suddenly some old bots felt interesting again
>>548046226>some massive sneaksName them, big guy.
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/claude-4-best-practicesarticle seems to have been updated after 4.5 opus
>>548046252Futanazi is an alt I assume but arloxe hasn't been mentioned once. Don't toss around no names
>>548046226posts like that and replies to them are always threadshitting, one of them didn't even spell the name he's recommending right
>>548044884I recommend taking inspiration from this particular card if you want to become one of the greats.https://files.catbox.moe/0vyyqa.png
>>548046226yeah I don't know why this guy keeps trying to force this "_purple is a good writer" meme, he's obviously fine but out of that generation kalakan and taora were the actual stand-outs and they both mog the shit out of him, also>fluffanonlol
>>548046345only peonia is good on either of those lists. taora if you're trans.
Anchor theme?
>>548046973This girl heavily pregnant
>>548046465
>>548046345>koi3>purple>flufflol
>>548046705>kalakanfuck off you pile of disingenuous shit
>>548047134{{user}} is a brat that needs correction by {{char}}.
>>548044356Yeah, I usually lurk in /aids/ but they don’t use claude
There will never be another generation of botmakies like the early 2024 one.
>nai shills invading againo nonononononono
>>548046898Agreed. You can tell Peonia enjoys writing and has committed to it for some time. I don't download every bot of his but I do enjoy reading the defs anytime he uploads one.
>>548047470Thank God
>>548047470lol nobody remembers themall the known makies are from 2023
>>548040636I only care if it's not more filtered and better at RP.
>>548047479In 2023 when I used NAI I made logs about their community manager Aini being a futa raping Anons and she got mad at me
>>548046973nice hat
>>548047416I thought a lot of them started using it, at least before the GLM update. GLM is awful so I can't imagine everyone moved to it etiher.
>>548047693Kek, are you the one that constantly posted about futa Aini? I remember that.
I overslept, theme suggestions? will bake at 796
>>548047887SMT Nocturne
>>548047887The flintstones
>>548047887Dody
>>548047887let the thread fucking die nigger
>>548047887Weezer
>>548047887stealth_sex
>>548047780Yes, it was fun
>>548047887Tracy Reznik (lock core)
>>548047887James Bond
>>548047887Limbus company faust big tits
>>548047887girls dressed like >>548046973 but heavily pregnant
>>548047887Last 4 digits google image result
>>548047887Pregnant futas
>>548047887Viper the Rapper
>>548047887overwatch
>>548046489It's time for this general to experience futakino
>>548047887full blown fox pussy
>>548047887Aglaea
>>548047887Lego Rock Raiders
>>548047887[Chirimen Naoyuki (Naoyuki)] Rorikko Taisha no Kamikakushi | Spirited Away at the Fox Shrine [English] [ForeignOkka] [Digital]
>>548047996pretend it's dead and never return again if you hate our general so much faggot, nothing is keeping here
>>548044884astro and raingazer are good
Do I play slay the spire all day or do I work on my bot hmmmmmmmmm
>>548048901You are me, goat
>https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=547936569&post=548047887&cutoff=796>>548048864>>548048864>>548048864
>>548048901work on your bot long term happiness beats short term thrills anyway.
>>548037919>>548037927You won't get more variety this way either, because 0.95 and 1.0 can't be too different. 0.95 is used to clean the logit noise tail, it removes probabilities that are already too low anyway. It might matter on higher temperatures, but not on 1.0, which is the max value for Claude. With the temp 1.0 you can just use top-p 0.95 by default and it would be better in 99% of the cases.I'm not even starting on the mode collapse. Trying to improve the variety in a mode-collapsed model is a fool's errand. Sampling schizos claim otherwise and bring n-sigma, temp >5, min-p, and other crutches, but their logs are always the same turbo slop.The problem is that the model itself doesn't have a good concept of semantical variety, you can't teach it by injecting more randomness.
