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North Line Update has arrived - New Map Stella Montis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9JeiBAAey4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVfTtOrRuFU

>News
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/duo-and-store-update
https://arcraiders.com/en/news/north-line-update


>Resources
https://arcraiders.com/en/news
https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19IQX87jrhY-Sg41a2lm5lKrVJzwwc21gzF5i9SRnhM4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Check the bottom of the docs!
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remember to pick the angled breach point and not hte straight one so you can look behind you
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>encounter duo on stellar montis
>they are holding a doorway letting us know guys on the other side shot them and arent friendly
>minutes pass, hear tons of shots
>find 3 duos all crawling around shit talking each other
>recognize the guys from earlier and defib them
>exchange pleasantries and leave
>15 minutes pass, 1 extraction left
>go down to train and get killed from shadows by the same 2 guys we saved
>"oh sorry mate haha"
bruh
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>fancy 80k loadout
>12 minutes late
yea, thanks. and if i fumble a loadout like this twice i'm probably already bottlenecked on some resource. springs or something. what the FUCK am i doing
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How high should I upgrade the il toro if I'm going to Stella Montis?
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>>548159228
you'll be right, you can get em from celeste. besides, you can craft them, so its not like the loss is irreplaceable.
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>>548159409
you don't, you run free kit. stella is a free kit hell hole.
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>>548159409
level it up once per extract
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>>548159541
Yeah, but I just want to murder peope poorer than me and then die after like the 5th or 6th one
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>>548159576
true and zased, get em soldier.
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>>548159576
get a torrente for that
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>>548159563
I'll be doing this, thanks
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I'm brand new
Do I just recycle everything with the "recyclable" tag and if so, is there a way to filter for that?
Yes I know now I should've kept a dog collar, I did recycle it sadly
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>>548159972
check this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V0kuRHDu1T-iAxtoV2RYSi1SI5xBscIC/view
generally yes but some recyclables are required for quests/workshop upgrades/expeditions
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>kill 3 rocketeers
>no bp again(again)
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>>548159972
If it doesn't have craftable items next to it in a light font or its very low durability it's most likely worth recycling or selling, either or.
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>>548159972
There's quest item trackers that tell you what to keep. There's also some stuff that's very valuable for crafting.
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This run was something else
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2629564797?t=7h17m22s
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>GAMMA
BOOSTED

>TIME
NIGHT

>STITCHER
LEVEL 3

>JOLT MINE
PLACED

>EXTRACTION
CAMPED

GREYGAWDZ WE CANT STOP WINNIN
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>>548160343
>>548160203
alright thanks
>>548160243
I figured it was something like that but I saw a correlation between items that didn't have a crafting text and the "recyclable" tag, so I was wondering if there was a way to filter on that tag
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>average pigtails raider
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>>548160479
>level 3
Running out of supplies there champ?
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>>548159972
Go to >>548160203 and keep the stuff for quest.

Everything else can be safely recycled. Realistically speaking for the first 40 hours the only resources you'll need is arc battery to make shield recharger, and magnets to make loot augment mk2.
You gonna be stuck with Ferro + Stitcher for a long while, but white gun only cost basic metals and green components to make and upgrade (green components can be crafted) so those aren't an issue at all. Arc Raider is extremely generous when it comes to common level gears so feel free to explore and die a bit to learn the game.

Once you get a hang of the basics and want to learn how to make progress, go watch a youtube video about gun tier list. Obtaining the blueprints for some S and A tier guns will be your major power boost, preferably Anvil because it's a green gun that's really good against both pvp and pve, and it being a green gun means it's dirt cheap to make and upgrade. You'll then want to look for wolfpack blueprints (a type of grenade that deals insane damage to arc) so that you can solo the bigger arc for resources to upgrade your workbench.

Good luck.
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upgraded to old and decrepit marty mcfly

>>548160479
I don't understand the need to crank the gamma up at night time, even if tryhard retards need the visual settings its still fun navigating by torchlight,
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>No reason to upgrade benches past level 2
>No reason to do quests
>Casual players solely playing on the weekends can effortlessly reach the endgame project a month ahead of time
>No reason to do endgame PvE
>No reason to do PvP except for keks
>No reason to try hard to extract (the game literally throws free gear at you)
>No reason to farm for and craft epic and legendary gear
>B-b-but muh heckin wholesome raiderinos....

Truly, deeply Swedish game design
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>>548159228
>make loadout for Hidden Bunker
>die to bullshit
>have to remake my kit now
>Hidden Bunker is no longer up
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Peanut bros....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqTKJ3sEABY
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>>548161391
and then there are the battledads going
>yeah well I'm having a BLAST
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>>548159743
just destroyed a torrentefag close range with a sticher level 1
do not bring a single blue item to SM. its a massive waste of everyone's time
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>>548161391
>No reason to upgrade benches past level 2

someone doesn't have any good blueprints
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>>548161503
tbf that was a pretty good watch
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>>548161614
what good blueprints? wolfpacks? purple gear is just a pointless time and money sink. the optimal play is to wait for another to kill the big arcs then gank him.
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why do the dummies in the practice range have like 200hp? i know of the spreadsheets, but can i not actually test ttk?
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>>548161862
it might be the optimal play for a bottom feeder
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>>548161867
the dummies take 10 headshots from a venator before they sink... what the fuck is this?
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You know, now come to think of it, it's kinda cringe that you need to have 3 rocketeer driver to level your explosive station to lv3, just so you can craft wolfpacks to take down rocketeers.
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just played a game of bf6 after playing AR for the last month and wew lad the difference in battle pass jewry is astonishing
you get 1/10 of a bp level for winning a game in bf6 whereas they are practically throwing rewards at you in AR with 2 different battle passes
and AR is half the price of bf6
really makes you think
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>>548162369
>have to kill them the hard way before you unlock the easy way
?
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>>548162587
I want to see you try soloing a 1100HP rocketeer with just a Ferro.
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>I'm having a blast
The 5 words of a shill.
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I think I will extraction camp for the first time today
Any tips for making it comfy? Maybe I'll grab a cup of tea while I wait or something
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>>548162369
If you kill retards in matriarch events you wont need to worry about acquiring wolfpacks
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>>548162691
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>>548160445
Holy fuck that was great. I'm tempted to do this in solos with the healing augment so I can have all 4(5?) slots for grenades
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>>548162832
testing annex roof
pulse mine at the top of the ladder for anyone sneaking up on you
throw trigger nades on the elevator switch
or just go there with a ferro free kit and snipe anyone running to extract
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>>548163582
A barricade at the top of the ladder tends to make people fuck off as well
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It has gotten to a point where I just go in with these dogshit purples only to shoot at people until I die just to get rid of them
But do you know what happens when you try to use the Bettina? YOU DIE TO WASPS BECAUSE IT'S SO FREAKING SHIT
I didn't even get to shoot any players because I couldn't kill these stubborn wasps that can't miss and never give up on chasing you
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>>548163907
>can't miss
stafe left/right
>give up on chasing
hard cover and then run in a different direction
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bro has purples and died to a wasp
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bro has eyes and died to a wasp
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>>548164248
hornets you can dodge, wasps you can not
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>>548163907
You have to take a ridiculous amount of ammo with bettina to make it work in pve. You really have to ignore that part of your brain and just fullauto everything.
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>>548164570
You can dodge wasps
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NO MIC, NO LIFE. I kill all micless retards if they don't answer back on voice chat. Micless rerards are actual subhumans and will backstab you or try to like the sociopaths they are.
>b-but i am a micless retard and i will kill you
Will never happen lil gup.
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>hear a guy get knocked by someone else
>have 2 defbis
>run over and check the situtation
>he talks to another guy who also came
>he's friendly and says he will avenge the knocked guy
>I emote don't shoot with the intention of coming over to revive the guy
>his friend just knocks me like a retard and then gets knocked by the real bad guy
some of the people playing this game have room temperature IQ
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>>548164969
post a webm of you dodging a wasp shooting at you right now
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How the fuck do I deliver the ESR to lance before extracting?
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>>548165178
>dont use your words
>die like a bitch
A sad tale, invest in a mic next time Rakesh
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>>548165419
Isnt that an item you need to extract with to complete the quest?
My buddy bricked +1 stash slot with that quest cos it didnt go away after the quest and he cant delete it kek
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>>548165419
You extract with the item and complete the quest.
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>>548165575
You just bring it into a raid with you and drop it, what?
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>>548165575
>>548165630
Weird I completed the objective but I guess I didnt loot the item somehow.
Found a snap hook tho
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>>548165178
use your mic at every opportunity bro
i watched my friend play on console and he will walk up to people and then fuck around with the emote wheel to find dont shoot, meanwhile the guy has his gun out and is pointing it at him
use your mic and the second you see someone or even hear someone say "yo whats up buddy" and you wont get kos'd 9/10 times
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>>548161503
cringe
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This general is boring now.
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>>548161503
>hutch climbed his way out of bitching and bullying people to just dick riding bigger streamers pretending to be chill
With such bad character wasn't he pushed out of sports for it too?
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people who have killed me on sight

GoombaEater
Kupawaki
usagi
Jeriri
Garmoz
Gravy
ToxicPrrincess
seethe
karubona-ra
Spyten
R0IIN
JKP
GlonkeeyxDonkey
Peenhardafk
B0TRUSTYY
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>>548166109
>people who have killed me on sight
did they have a mic? did you have a mic?
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Get new material.
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>>548166253
they don't have a mic
and I do have a mic going "hey what is your problem, I was just hunting arc"
and it seems like they react to my voice, because suddenly they are freaking out and unloading a whole clip into my downed body

I assume I am coming through their speakers and I'm at max volume going
>"HEY WHY DID YOU KILL ME IM NOT HOSTILE"
>"HEY HEY HEY"
>"I WASNT HOSTILE"
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>Get new material.
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>>548166398
>lost 2 cautious kits to freekit fags ganking people doing matriarch
real cool
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Downloading some more JAV for my collection.
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i fucking hate streamers giving literally everyone online the impression that this is a mass scale PvP game, what the fuck are the devs thinking
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>come in with garbage
>gank ven 4
>repeat
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>>548166948
technically it is, one of the gameplay "mechanics" is killing someone and taking al their stuff, and its supposedly completely fair

but thats why I avoid trios
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>>548166948
The way the game is tuned, it is a mass scale pvp game. Only in CoD do you find every weapon trying to be balanced against each other.
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I'm thinking of killing someone on sight. I've never done it before. I just want to know how it feels on the other side, you know?
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>>548167247
I've done it a few times, it feels bad unless you're a sociopath. Gear means shit to me because I can craft everything that's meta. So you just ruin someone's run and it's not even rewarding.
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>>548167136
>>548167174
so much for the whole "PVEPVP" cope spam, now we're conceding that it's a fucking battle royale at this point?
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I'm going to fucking lose my mind, all I need to do is kill arcs for arc cells and some freekit fag has to come kill me

Fuck you Shinju
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>>548167720
>disingenuous shitposter
or
>ESL
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>>548167247
>>548167419
>I just want to know how it feels on the other side, you know?
You won't know how it feels because you have a far more emotional and unstable reaction to getting killed in a video game and project that onto other players than a lot of the people KoSing.
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>>548167727
Wait for Matriarch then loot them when the people with legendaries take them out. Although this is very much RNG if your lobby got people trying to kill her. I got 3 bombardier cores like that.
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>>548167720
embark are retarded at game balance, so yes it's a battle royale now
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>>548167727
>fag downs me
>comes to finish the job
>I'm already crawling to the bombadier that is now shooting at him
get fucked
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>>548167957
pretty much
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It's so fucking stupid that in a game where you can DIE BEFORE FINISHING A MANTLE EVEN WITH 5/5 MANTLING SPEED FROM FULL HEALTH WITH MEDIUM SHIELD you can't insure your weapon or have an augment that treats one of your weapon slots like a safe pocket. The TTK is so god fucking awful why would I ever waste resources on bringing good shit? Fuck
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>>548167956
I'm just talking about the basic green cells, I'm just out of green shield rechargers, not even attacking other people

Sociopaths are so fucking annoying
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>>548168101
You can just buy them from the clinic unless money is an issue for you. Once you max out stash money loses all meaning so I'm constantly around 700-800k and I don't even loot trinkets unless they're epic.
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>>548168195
I just want to play the fucking game, but thank you
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>>548168078
Did a night raid earlier and met a friendly player who shot me when we extracted while the doors were closing. He wasn't trying to kill me and I assume was just doing a feat but it was seriously less than one second before my full health and shield were depleted and I was on the ground
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>>548161391
>Casual players solely playing on the weekends can effortlessly reach the endgame project a month ahead of time
This is completely fine
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>Bug where left click just doesn't register seemingly at random right after a roll still isn't fixed
Come the fuck on, swedes.
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Saving my extra Wolfpack BP for when they inevitably add a Flea Market and I can sell it for 1 mil or something.
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>>548168292
i did the same to a heavy shield guy inside a train too, he never holstered the weapon and i one clipped with with a level 1 stitcher with lvl 1 light mag and he started panicking but i let him live and extracted with him downed
like ...i could tell it was a heavy shield bc it took my whole clip but fuck me if that isnt retarded, A LEVEL 1 STITCHER
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>>548168681
They won't add one unless they add forced wipes otherwise whoever doesn't wipe will set the prices as they hoard bps
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>>548168710
its a misconception that the shield is a healthbar

it's literally just shielding your health for the 40-50% damage

a heavy shield is only 10% better than a medium shield
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>>548168778
You can't set the prices because BP drop rate is 100% RNG and you could get any of them as a level 1.
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The more I think of this game, the more I feel like it's just Diablo IV of extraction shooters
>in development hell for years
>eventually had to ship what they had despite it being unfinished
>the original design was very different, resulting in a total mess
>the end product is a game by people who don't understand the genre, by people who don't like the genre
The question is, will the story repeat to the end?
>genre vets try to draw attention to the game's problems until they're blue in the face but eventually chased away by teenagers, gamer dads and other vermin
>months later casuals realize the vets were right
>clueless devs can't right the ship, the game falls into obscurity
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>>548168681
check ebay, when the game came out Wolfpack blkueprints were going for $200
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>>548169000
Looks like they start at $3 now.
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I think once i'm done with this expedition i'm going to take a break. I really want to like this game more but with the state of the endgame economy and the ttk issue I don't want to keep playing until a balance pass has been done
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>deploy fully loaded for a queen kill as soon as event starts
>2 flares go up in my near vicinity at no less than 28 minutes
>rush to the hatch bc fuck that noise
what the fuck is wrong with the playerbase now, its crossplay off even
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>>548169578
There's nothing "wrong" with the playerbase. There is nothing to do in the game besides fucking around with ferro/sticher free kits.
Beyond that, the risk/reward dynamics are basically nonexistent in this game. It's a major problem that is going to drag the entire game down.
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>>548169578
>spawn in
>get rattler i
>quit game
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>>548169578
The game is getting progressively more bloodthirsty as time goes on because gear is meaningless so it's just free kit niggers running around like it's cod
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>>548169578
it happened AGAIN
also loaded into a 29min match, lots of flares going up near the bridges and central areas
left again
i cant play solo anymore, wtf
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>>548170149
End of workweek bloodbath is also about to begin
>kos
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>>548168060
The PvE gear progression is pretty well done.
It's PvP gear that is completely fucked.
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killed three people and this is what it got me
it's just the same junk I can already make on my own with ease
this game has such a gear problem it's crazy
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>>548170423
>PvE gear progression is pretty well done
lol
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>>548170638
maybe stop killing randoms for no reason fucking nigger
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>>548169578
Crossplay off is no longer a guarantee you'll end up with non griefers. I have ski mask sandniggers on EU with crossplay off.
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>>548170638
Alternatively you could camp extract at night and get like 3 ven 4's and anvil 4's off of one guy
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>head to blue gate naked
>rip into a guy with the arpeggio i picked up and get his osprey
>loot 2 blueprints
>gtfo
That was fun
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>>548170806
I killed a guy who had just killed another first, I heard the dead guy complaining on mic
then what followed was the classic third parties rolling up
also
>for no reason
the only reason to play the game right now is to kill other people, take it up with Embark

>>548170870
yeah but it seems so boring to just sit around and wait for someone
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at this point i refuse to believe that friendlyniggers (in this thread) aren't real
>oooh the humanity i would never fire my weapon at a player or KOS oooooooh
PvP(vE) game btw
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>spawn in
>immediately attacked
ok I don't know what I did to the devs to curse my account like this

>miss completely easy shots because sometimes the bullets just miss

>get shot through the wall by a Bastian when I'm trying to do Hidden Bunker and help someone else

>solo a Bastian and loot everything
>see someone running from arcs
>"today I will be a nice person and help them out"
>they continue running
>downed from the 3 flying arcs chasing him because I used all my heals fighting the Bastian and I was relying on the other guy to help

>ALWAYS a rocketeer near me

>never find ANY good blueprints

>just queue to try and farm some arc cells with my trusty Ferro IV
>killed basically 3 times in a row by some freekit running from his spawn right to me
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The Bettina goes kinda hard, if it had 2-3 more bullets it would be a goated gun.
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>>548171163
ive been spawn camped before and it feels so shitty
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>>548168939
>the end product is a game by people who don't understand the genre, by people who don't like the genre
>i am so enlightened
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>>548171304
nta but it does genuinely feel like every game dev is completely retarded
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r*ddit hates anime
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1p8w84u/i_need_these_version_of_hornet_wasp/
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>>548171382
>No valid criticism
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>>548171229
>throw a silencer on the bettina "Hmm surely now the map will not run straight to me"
>Kill some freekitter and he starts malding and announcing i have a bettina to the world
>Teaming niggers rush out of sec to assfuck me 3v1
yeah nah fuck that gun.
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>>548171302
if someone plays pvp seriously, I can't imagine this game is any fun at all

>>548171103
I am one of those people that have never shot another raider, even after they shoot me and I survice, I just maintain
>"Hey, don't shoot, I'm friendly, I'm not hostile, I was hunting arcs"
Sometimes tempted to yell the N word in case I happen to be coming through their speakers, but that's the most evil thing I would do, and I'd probably feel bad and apologize after
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>see guy coming towards me and buddy
>third person him until hes on us and then il toro his ass
>feel bad so let his duo come in and revive him
>we all go our seperate ways
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>questing on spaceport
>have the drop on someone
>decide to be nice and speak
>he responds in a melanated voice
>his name is ShootFirst25
>I decide to give the benefit of the doubt
>leave him in peace
>encounter him 10 minutes later at the elevator
>say hi
>he shoots first
The only one I can be mad at is my own self. I didn't fully commit to TND, and it cost me a kit and my dignity. Truly, pottery.
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>>548171521
>down someone
>they start screaming your exact location on voip until you kill them
or
>down someone
>they try to crawl away into a bush or crevice to hide their loot instead of just surrendering instantly
And I know they don't have a fucking survivor on
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>>548171609
>guy is called shootfirst
>don't shoot him when you find this out
>shocked pikachu when he shoots you
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>>548171586
i will gladly make friends with some people but i always make exceptions for those that are overly friendly
do you not have any self preservation? wouldn't it be nice to actually win a fight and get some loot out of it, maybe actually fight for your inventory just once?
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>>548171639
>>down someone
>>they try to crawl away into a bush or crevice to hide their loot instead of just surrendering instantly
>And I know they don't have a fucking survivor on
just did this earlier to some freekit fag that shot me in the back

>killing spotters on bombadier
>get merced
>fall off the roof
>dumb freekitter running to finish me off
>I'm crawling towards the Bastian
>he fires a few shots aff at me before the Spotters I didn't finish off start pinging him
>hide my body in the bushes under the Bastian
>dumb fag had to run away and probably didn't see where I hid

Didn't even have anything good, but fuck giving someone else my gun and kit
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>>548171639
I'm both of these at once
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>>548171971
I feel more anger when someone does either of those then when I get killed by a venator nigger or extract camper
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>>548171103
I'm still not sure it isn't some elaborate troll campaign.
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Why the fuck would i run anything but free or budget kits when you not only need to deal with teamers in solos but teams that have been shoved into your game?
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Are the tier III attachments worth using? I just found a padded stock BP and was wondering if I should trade it for something else
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>>548171837
That's what I like about this game, everytime I meet a person we are in mutual agreement not to kill each other and extract

Sure you can be an evil piece of shit and ruin his experience, but
>there is no loot ever worth doing that
>if you talk with someone and betray them your brain has to justify it with some undoubtably gay reason (it was pvpve! despite everyone being friendly!)
and
it's just a nice change of pace that people are nice, you can literally play any other extraction shooter if you want to pvp, but for some reason PvPers want to play this one with PvE enemies and people literally going "hey I'm just doing my quest" and not even hurting anyone
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>>548172198
Solos are only fighting other solos, retard
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>>548172252
Completely untrue. Solo queue gets teams filled into it indiscriminately in low server pop scenarios.
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>>548172360
I have never once in my near 200 in raid hours seen a single duo/trio in solos
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>>548172360
i think your mistaken anon
friendly players often just team up
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Is the Jupiter any good? Just got the BP
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>>548171831
yeah, that's kinda the point of the post, ESL-kun
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>>548172529
>legendary weapon
>good
lolno
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absolute goated comment i found on youtube (which is full of gear fear videos now, game collapse is coming) so i had to share it here, i like the event specific restrictions idea the most
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kill yourself
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>reposting your youtube comment to 4chan and samefagging it
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>>548172564
it's that easy
what video?
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>>548172730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbLl4tA-oms
its really fkn good, bro actually plays the game and has the right mindset
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>>548172564
agree
i have only ever used a purple shield once and never again
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I hope I can do hidden bunker this time, does anyone have a guide to follow or anything?
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>>548173069
it's baffling that gear fear is a real thing in this game honestly
maybe it's because i've been playing tarkov for so long but this game is incredibly generous and losing a kit is not a big deal at all, not to mention that the gear quality pretty much does not matter at all.
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>>548173458
just stand around the bunker entrance with the 10 other people doing the same and wait for others to open it
then run around downloading from terminals
just follow everyone else
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>>548173568
>>548173069
For me it's not gear fear and that it's a pain in the ass to craft a loadout when I can just instantly go next
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>>548173458
Just stay near the console, the download will interrupt if you leave it.
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>>548159409
there are people who are glitching into the map and shooting through walls one-way, don't bring any kit to stella.
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>>548172484
No. This is actually how it works for all matchmaking group sizes.
You are always going to have the server choose a solo to enter a solo match over a duo or trio.
When it looks for backfill all the way to 17min if it can't find solos or a group has been waiting really long, it will just shove them into a game.
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>>548173568
Because for a lot of people who haven't played looter shooters, this is their first one, they haven't made the gameplay loop in their head like
>oh I can just craft a kit and shield and my favorite gun
>I guess its not so bad if I lose it

unless you're out of mats, then you kind of get used to freekitting
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>>548173749
Interesting.
I've often downed people in duos who just instantly surrender and leave. I always assume their duo is already dead. Or we're searching for their duo partner that never appears. Never considered they put solos into duo later in the game
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spaceport equalizer runs or nothing
the only fun left in the game
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>>548160915
>tfw rats are too poor to fully upgrade stitchers
The freekit experiment was a failure. Once again the tragedy of the commons proves correct. Embark should remove freekits entirely. Then niggers would soft lock themselves out of the game the game they are spoiling. What would they do when they fully run out of supplies? Actually play the game?
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>>548159409
>>548173718
that faggot peanut streamer had someone show him the glitch

he did hide his screen and mute his mic, as if that would stop people who care to exploit and not treat it like a challenge to figure out what he did
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>>548174143
idc to know anything about that person
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I'm convinced the maps in this game are AI generated with how easy it can be to get legitimately stuck or how sometimes you just randomly can't mantle something that looks like it should be easily done and an intended route.
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>roll into window in control tower
>use unstuck
>get placed in invisible room with 360 view of the entire map
>you can shoot through walls but they cant see you
>can aggro arc but they cant hit you
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guns should be able to be placed in safe pocket
blueprints cant be safe pocketed
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>>548172564

All that needs to fucking happen is that free loadout weapons (the stictcher and kettle really) need to have their T1 stats nerfed and instead gain fire rate (stitcher) and damage (kettle) when you upgrade them. T4s will have the same TTK as they currently do but T1-3 will get nerfed.
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>>548174545
>downed with my survival kit
>its fine I'll just head to extra-
>wait, why the fuck am I stuck on this rock
>move but cant move out of the rock
>HELLO
>no unstuck prompt because I can technically move
>COME ON
>struggle for the last minute <50m away from the extract
>die to the timer
>lose 1 of my 2 survival kits
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>>548174575
>blueprints cant be safe pocketed
this would go hard
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Repair costs should be reduced
Silencer 3 on a renegade 4 is has devastating durability loss
You can go from 120>0 in a match easily and it requires 3x Advanced Mechanical Components + 3x Medium Gun Parts to repair it halfway
No wonder people are just freekitting for a ferro i
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>>548174849
Based, post some results when you get time
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This game only had 100 hours of fun in it for me, but it's not bad for the 20 bucks I paid.
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Game kinda lost its feel for me now.. i played 5 matches on spaceport today 5 matches in a row of spawning in at 18 mins late in the game running into pve fucks while trying to extract and then dying because they are teaming. Im done when the game punishes me 5 times in a row for bringing my own loadout in. Not to mention the game starting to get stale anyway
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ITS OUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST_fD5NL_pg
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>>548174849
kek
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>>548172243
>"you can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation" -Plato
niggers are niggers in everything they do, anon. I know that's hard to admit, because admitting they are what is wrong with the game means admitting they are also what's wrong outside of the game, and the implications of that are more than you want to contend with right now. Don't be afraid to call them what they are. Besides, if you got banned, you wouldn't feel bad about it for another 6 months, or however long it takes for them to fix this game into something you would miss.
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worst map to do this right? its always felt like nigger central to me
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>>548172243
>>548175478
Why don't you play a co-op game?
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>>548175439
get hype for this week's "the devs are retards" documentary
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>>548173069
i have gear disappointment. i recycle blues and purples or i just bring them out without a fear in the world because i know those weapons fucking suck and go back to my greys with a proper kit of nades and accessories.
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>>548175269
I paid $35 and I'm about 65 hours in closing in on about 70 hours and I think I'll stop playing around then. I'll probably just get all the stuff for the expeditions last step at most.
The devs are crazy if they think this game has a lifespan long enough for a "10 year plan"
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>>548175540
The worst map to do anything on is Dam. If you need to do the harvester event, I recommend trying to solo it with a loot 2 augment to pocket both BP. You might try ratting it yourself until the last 10 minutes of the match to try and weed out some niggers.
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>>548175989
nah im already running equalizer and have done harvester countless times, i just wanna bring the actual ARC down with the server, its been pretty chill in Dam and Spaceport but for some reason Blue Gate has always had niggers on the hills shooting at everyone else and not ARC
what else am i supposed to do? its the only "engaging" PvE I can find
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>>548175880
They can't even handle the first 10 weeks.
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>>548176110
Honestly? Idk what to do, I'm in the same boat. I have completed all of the game's content, and there is nothing to do in the post game besides provide welfare for niggers (no wonder reddit loves this!) Just to what I do: complete challenges for double promotions, then go back to space marine and Helldivers. New warbond is about to drop if you wanna farm up some super credits. Even HD2 has a better loot/shoot loop, and it's not even a looter shooter.
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>>548174960
yea I found myself extremely limited by gun parts
>>548175619
we are playing one :)
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>>548173069
Appreciate that people like him can feel something is wrong with the game and can even recognize what it is, freeshitters, but his solution is retarded. I actually HATE safe pockets and think its absolutely retarded to be honest and the idea of people getting ANOTHER safe pocket is terrible in my opinion. It's why its led to people naked running and shoving blueprints up their ass which is totally fucking stupid. Take the most valuable loot in the game and because somebody with a loot augment 2 and 5 stamina shots beelined to loot spot and suicided out with no chance of even constesting it is retarded.

Again, these devs have no idea of how to make a casual extraction shooter. The casual aspect should not come from freekits and equalized gear. It should come from the ease of access to the game, so cheap low level gear but not FREE, and the long TTK so people cant get ratted out by either people with high gear or low level gear.

Thats ultimately the main issue with the game, the low TTK and shitty gear balance. And imo the safe pockets too. I think blueprints should >>548174575
do that. You should be scared to pick up a rare blueprint and have to fight your way out but at the same time not be able to get downed within half a second. That would make for a better game instead of right now where you properly kit up, go to the loot spot only to see 10 naked bodies who no doubt shoved a BP up their ass so fuck you and then as you leave, some freekit kills you in 0.5 seconds as you turn a corner.
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>>548172564
If you gate any mode behind having a minimum gear quality, it will instantly turn that mode into KOS PvP lobbies.
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>>548175269
I pushed it to 200
I'll play the new season aswell if they do a good rebalance, I cant be arsed playing the same light/med venator loadout over and over again
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>>548175619
>nigger uses lack of self awareness to self identify
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>>548167909
could also turn into a "taste for blood" thing after the first
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Is Spaceport the shittiest map? It feels like all the areas are super spaced out from one another and none of the places in the game even have high loot concentration worth enough going to in comparison to just playing anywhere else.
Then once you get any loot you just get hit by randoms on roofs or vantage points going to extract or from place to place. Especially in a night raid, trying to leave is an absolute fuck fest on this map because of locations
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>>548176734
Well, since that's what all we get anyways (thanks niggers) we may as well do it.
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>>548177079
I hate how every loot spot is a big warehouse with fuck all in it and ontop of that everyone can fucking hear you because of the metal flooring going THUNK THUNK THUNK when you even just jog
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>>548176948
have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth plaguesis the wise
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i hate clicking fast. someone trade me for these 3 venator 4s
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>>548177079
Spaceport is the best map.
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>>548177079
Shittiest map is buried city and also has browns playing it constantly
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I sometimes use the Recorder to avoid PvP in stella montis and it works 98% of the time so it's an always carry, though I mostly use it when I'm placed in a late game.
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>>548167909
>you won't know how it feels to have an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex
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so the standard reaction to hearing a female is to assume it's a tranny?
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>>548177526
Is that what you call it when you start crying over dying in a video game?
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>>548162680
just take some fucking sticky nades.
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>>548164969
no you can't you can only take cover. I've had more success running from bastion fire.
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>>548177735
That's literally never happened. Are you the one projecting? The only videogame that's made me cry is death stranding.
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>>548177735
no you baiting miserable retard
it's called having self awareness
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>>548162369
>>548162587
>>548162680
>>548177774
you can get rocketeer drivers from first wave husks during the map event, pretty sure they also sometimes drop without the event
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>>548177672
>a real woman would never have to say this
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>>548170731
Yeah. Anvil is still the best PVE gun and you can buy that shit in the traders menus.
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>>548174970
>>548175460
>>548174849
>kill 4 retards and win med
>Completely scour it, nothing bar maybe one or two containers were looted
>no BP tho
I'll take the town hall key, however. was in those tall black metal containers in the central bottom loot room.
Run went better than every game i've had today.
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i will share one of my veteran tips for extracting:
>emote: don't shoot
>then use mic: "i'm friendly, we're cool"/whatever
anyone creeping around is now wary of the guy that doesn't exist
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>>548178308
I do this all the time. I'll use the greet/don't shoot and then say hi on mic a second or two after
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>>548178308
good tip thank
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>>548178308
my veteran tip for not getting shot
>run around repeating "if you shoot me you're gay" as if it were an autistic stim
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>>548177957
If you're posting images of the hitman in a movie while talking about how you want to know how KoSing feels or saying people are sociopaths for shooting people in a PvP game then it's a reasonable conclusion you take dying in said video game far too seriously and overreact to it. The other reasonable conclusion is that you're trolling but that's boring.
>>548177970
Self awareness would involve realizing that other people aren't as affected by getting shot in this game as you, that they see it like any other game where people would be baffled seeing you complain about dying in PvP, and even think it's very weird how upset you get over it.
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burletta or kettle
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>>548177672
you must be doing something wrong

had a black guy say my voice was hot and probably some white guy clearly shy while talking to me, telling me he had fun and I sound cute, right before the extract timer hits 0
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>>548179086
kettle
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>>548178961
im not writing a paragraph in response because i'm not nearly as pathetic and desperate for attention as you are
just know you're fucking stupid
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>>548179101
which voice are you using kek
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I don't think those cucks at Embark have what it takes to make this game last, I mean just look at them, it's obvious. I do hope they prove me wrong, but this game needs more carrots, more incentives for teamwork, more different ARC, better gear progression, more items, more quests and things to discover.

Engaging in PvP should have consequences (not just lore-wise, which none exist atm), there should be factions, people you have to hunt down, game modes geared towards PvP and others geared towards PvE. There's no excuses this game has been in the works for 6 years, they had a bunch of playtests and shilled as much as they could. It's time to put out or get fucked.

Marathon is coming out in like 2-3 months and everyone will try it and move away, not to mention there might be playtests before then. Tick tock swecucks.
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>>548179332
If you get this upset over losing a quick /vg/ argument then I can't imagine how bad a big loss in this game is for you. Hope you sort yourself out, bro.
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>>548179440
I think voice 6 or 7
whichever one is the girl one
I noticed the higher numbers just make you sound like a kid instead of girl, I think the one I chose is deep enough to sound like an adult woman
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>>548178961
I haven't done any of those things, apophenia anon. I'm the one itt complaining about niggers. I'm glad you're not one, or sorry if you are.
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>>548179527
>Marathon is coming out in like 2-3 months and everyone will try it and move away,
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People are going to wake up to the Burletta IV very soon
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>>548179702
*tick tock*
Look at the clock, we're already 100k players down, there's nothing to progress towards in this game.
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>talk using the girl voice changer
>guys clearly surprised or taken aback when I talk
>try to converse with me as little as possible and move on

>remove voice changer
>most normal conversations in the world
>call each other bro
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>>548179618
>I haven't done any of those things, apophenia anon
Okay, if you haven't and don't relate to or agree with the people I was replying to who were doing those things then why did you even reply to me?
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>>548179702
Everyone will move away from this game no matter what happens if the balance/progression are not fixed. Niggers spoiled the freekit experiment, and the PVE is so shallow they had to add pvp to make the game even mildly interesting. The pvp is broken and shallow. Niggers have made the game so unplayable that the endgame is literally running around naked. Imagine a looter shooter that is so mechanically broken that the best players choose to spawn without gear or guns. Really try to think about it.
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>>548179572
like half of this thread is you baiting people with pseudo intellectual bullshit filled paragraphs
nothing "quick' about the shit you're doing
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>>548180113
Oh I agree. They need to fix the game. I am laughing at the idea that Marathon will take anything away.
>>548180036
Everyone is sour to the idea of Marathon. Its far too late for them. Its very very hard to change public opinion once it is set.
>But the discord dicksuckers said this last playtest was good!
Discord dicksuckers said Concord was good too. Streamers will get paid to play it and theyll move on from it the second that #AD is up, just like they did for that playtest back in summer.
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>>548179613
yeah most people just seem to use 1, which does sound like a kid
I think 3 sounds pretty good
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>>548180310
based
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>>548178308
Actually genius gonna start trying this.
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>>548180112
I simply suggested that you may have an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex. Perhaps the conversation has gone on this long because you are sensitive or defensive about that idea? I still think you were made in God's image, anon. I just want this game to be good. I don't hate the players, I hate the game. Niggers wouldn't be such a menace if their behaviors were not actively incentivized by (hopefully non-purposefully) broken game mechanics. I would love for this game to be something more than another perfect example of why affirmative action doesn't work.
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>>548180228
My posts have all been a few sentences at most and I think you're greatly overestimating how many posts in general are mine. I guess they are technically a paragraph each. Does it take you a long time to write a couple sentences?
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>>548180440
wish there was an easy way to test it, I just turned it off to stop making people horny and distracting them
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>>548180329
I am genuinely interested to try Marathon because I like the art style, I like sci-fi, and Arc Raiders has really turned me on to how fun extraction shooters can be.


But yeah, its ridiculously rare to see a game turnaround such a bad rep like this. Especially so long before it even released. I'm open to a miracle
Also I never played Destiny, I've vaguely heard about Destiny players complaining that modern bungie is not the most fun dev to be playing under
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>>548171414
>Keep that shit in the basement.
Funny coming from a plebbitor.
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>>548171837
What loot? Their guns? Only the venator isn't eclipsed by the fucking fucking stitcher and only barely at that. Their shields? Level 3 is arguably worse than level 1. Valuable shit like blueprints are stuffed up anus and are out of reach. Oh boy I might loot generic pile of crafting mats #278043
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Alright, I'm all ready for Hidden Bunker

Can't wait t die in the first 5 min :)
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>>548171837
>get jumped by a rabid nigger
>kill him
>get his loot
>freekit
Bottom text
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I have 28 complex gun parts, and nothing to use them on
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>>548180329
>I am laughing at the idea that Marathon will take anything away.
Have you played in the last test?
It's genuinely not a bad game.
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Nothing a rat hates more than when you fight back
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>>548181076
There is literally no reason to bring in 15 shield chargers
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>>548181229
concord wasn't "a bad game"
gigantic wasn't "a bad game"
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oh man ArcRaiders sub mods have started removing free loadout threads citing them as "reposts of common topics"
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https://youtu.be/ST_fD5NL_pg?t=810
>13:30
>shoot off a thruster and that disables its ability to fly
>of course it does!
>its physics!
>you don't need UI/health bar
based non-dumbing down dev who wants players to stop relying on UI and just understand the game world
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>>548181076
>too many shield rechargers
>no self defense stitcher
>no smokes
your fualt if you get ganked
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>>548181501
Mods are always gay.
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>>548181138
I just started salvaging those because I don't have any epic weapon BP, and the 2-3 epics I do have I never bring into raids because of the white/green weapon meta.
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what are some usecases for the tripwires?
ive used them as a warning, and there are some spots where you can use them to have an enemy path through a mine instead
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>>548180664
>I simply suggested that you may have an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex
Of course, and you wouldn't have done that if you didn't relate with the people I was replying to as evidenced further by the rest of your post. Pretending otherwise as you did is just being disingenuous and I have no interest giving more of my time to someone who will act dumb just for the sake of gaining traction in an argument. Polluting a discussion is far more distasteful niggerly behavior than what is displayed by any of the people engaging in game mechanics that upset you. Have a good day, anon.
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>>548180329
>I am laughing at the idea that Marathon will take anything away.
Honestly I assumed it would take the guys who just want to PvP
>>548181358
>>548181704
how many shield rechargers should I bring, just 10?
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>>548182094
Just 5, and even that is overkill
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thinking you have a hatch key, and then getting to a hatch and seeing that red 0/1 ups my heartrate a little
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44k husks solo feelsgoodman
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>>548182094
Bring 2 or 3. Grab powercells from dead ARC and either find rubber or scrap items you find into rubber. Then just craft more whenever you can in the field.
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>>548182153
I don't think I'm that good, I make a lot of mistakes
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>>548182262
And there will be a million arc around that you'll be killing which drop powercells to refill your shields with
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Been enjoying having this female Tarkov player in the background even though I don't like Tarkov. I wonder if there's any cute AR female players. Imagine going on duo adventures with your gf.
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>>548182262
If you are that shit then you are dying before using 5 shield rechargers.
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>>548182234
>>548182346
oh right, I forgot about that
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Another day another session where all my lobbies havent killed a single Queen because everyone keeps betraying each other
Its so tiresome...
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I just gave away all my keys to some random guy in a raid
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i should really do my trials for a shot at BPs yea? because i dont want to
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>>548179086
lvl 1 kettle >>>>>> lvl 4 bettina
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>>548182807
Just do the fun ones. Rocketeer damage is trading two wolfpacks and some risk for a chance at BP.
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>>548182807
Dam BGs during ems or night for 40k points
3 wolfpacks roughly on 2-3 rocketeers on ems or night
can get >10k points easy on spaceport if no one fucks with you, top of departure sees 3 snitch spawns
IDK what the ground-based enemies method is, but 4k points isn't a lot.
Completely ignore download data, it needs removal from the trial pool and is fucking awful to do.
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>>548182391
tarkov is really popping off stream wise
like suspiciously so
maybe it's like league where everyone wants to watch but no one wants to play it
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>>548183342
gotta be bots
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I'm bored after doing all the quests and tables and 5/6 of the expedition. From playing every day for hours on end to not even wanting to launch the game.
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>>548183268
>>548183298
thanks
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>>548183487
reddit will tell you to make your own fun
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>>548181076
>3-4 stacks x ammo
>2 stacks x bandages
>1 stack x herbal
>5 x rechargers
>stack of plastic (craft chargers when you down wasps/hornets)
>2-3 lures
>1 stack x snaps if you want

the rest is overkill
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>>548179086

Burletta is an amazing sidearm with its fast swap but as good as the kettle as a main weapon? Debatable. I'm never mad finding a burletta lets put it that way.
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>>548183487
I pretty much only want to run matriarch lobbies now - expedition can't come fast enough
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>>548183342
twitch drops maybe
same thing happens with hunt showdown
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>>548183962
swap speeds are the same
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Tried using kettle, got outspammed by another kettle user. Macro it is
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>>548178089
no thats just what i've been witnessing recently
i think the voice changers had the unintended effect of making actual women targets to the point that they have to use the male voice changer
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>>548183892
Yeah, just a sec, I'll just pull out 'my own fun' out of my ass.
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>>548171163
fuck you mean immediately, you've had like 5 seconds of freedom
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>>548183487
I just finished my expedition today, i'm done with the game until the expedition departs and I can see what kind of changes they're making to the game
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>>548175439
holy shit they even admit themselves that they haven't figured out the endgame yet
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>>548177079
Spaceport is fun but it's fucking awful for normal looting, most of the points of interests outside of the arrival/departure, Communications and the tower are just complete utter waste of time.
Such a huge map with such abysmal amounts of containers to loot, it feels like there's half as many lootable objects as damn battlegrounds with twice or three times the size.
Also a huge portion of the map is devoted to outside of the Spaceport which the only interaction people have with it is running past it to get inside.
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bros what do we think about ai
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i thought i was talking to a frenchman but it was an algerian. worst mistake of my arc career
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>>548185189
IS THAT
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>>548181726
If you are accusing me of sympathizing with having a developed prefrontal cortex, I suppose I am. I think it is odd that you would plant your flag so firmly on the other side of that hill. Also, accusing me of being disingenuous for no reason and then bowing out of the conversation is hardly good faith discussion. I surmise that you are not a nigger, and are in fact jewish, which you display via your rich culture of pilpul utilized in our discussion. I hope you have a good day too anon. Enjoy your saturnian sabbath tomorrow. Shalom.
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>Buried City Town Hall key
>First one there, unlock door
>Tick grabs me, turret aggros and I die

Oops
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>>548185268
AI is based
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>>548185592
It is truly telling what ebtkitters think is worth screenshotting. Nogs play a completely different game.
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anyone know of a guide to fix the smoothing in this fucking game? starting to get kinda frustrating that i can't form muscle memory, it's especially bad when trying to make small corrections on someone's head.
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>>548185592
>unlocks all bps
>still only crafts sticher + ferro
heh
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>>548185782
bp you don't have is pretty good though
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>>548185782
what is worth screenshotting nigga
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>>548185268
AI'm tired of talking about it. Corpos overrate it and normies think it's the devil and for some reason love copyright legality when talking about AI specifically.
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>>548185782
miserable fucks like you make this general so enjoyable
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>>548185942
You're right! I didn't see that your venator was fresh for you. I hope it encourages you to do something besides freekit.
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>>548186032
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>>548186126
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm so what do you think does AI infringe on copyright or not?
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>>548186219
Where do you see a venator in that image?
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>survive 50 runs in a row
>gain some coin
>lose 2 good kits in a row
>resource stockpile ravaged
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>>548186229
has anyone forced themselves on your chink stalkerfu after downing you yet
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>>548186217
I would say this general accurately reflects the state of this game. Freegros flexing over literally nothing while everyone else complains about how everything is worth literally nothing. I guess you are in the former camp?
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>>548186219
>>548185782
>Venator
Oh my how embarrassing
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>>548186229
is that the haul from pvping people trying to kill the queen
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>>548186418
No she always commits honraburu sudoku immediately when downed
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>>548186478
Maybe he's new. I was pumped about my first ven BP. It's still the best non-grey gun in the game.
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>>548186473
arguments are not a healthy substitute for the attention you are so obviously desperate for
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>>548185268
I hate techbros and corpos so much
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>>548186680
that's an anvil you dumbfuck
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>queue into 4 different Spaceport Queen lobbies today
>all of them have flares going up at 28-29 mins all from PvP freekit niggers
PvE is unironically dead in this game, it's over
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>>548173568
gear fear is a thing because the ttk is so fuckin low that you can die to anything
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>>548186790
Even better
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>go to practice range
>cant make a full 360 on my mouse pad
>swap mouse to 4000hz
>even worse
>swap back to 1000hz
>can now complete more than a full 360 on my mouse pad
please fix
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>>548185545
Don't care. Didn't read. Already told you why.
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>>548186791
PvE was DOA, that's why they had to add the freekit niggers in the first place.
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>>548185268
okay but why is the image arc raiders
>they used AI
not in the sloppy way you want, randy
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>>548187023
>flexes underdeveloped prefrontal cortex
No wonder you love the current state of the game so much!
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>>548187021
The only 'fix' is apparently setting your mouse to 250hz until the devs get off their asses. So until then you get mouse accel.
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Bunker's up. Get in line.
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>>548186791
What do ebtkitters even do once the actual players are dead? It's not like they pick up the hullcracker and finish the queen. Is their entire gameplay loop just extracting with wolfpacks that will only be seen outside of their stash in the screenshots they post here? Grim.
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>>548187124
i didnt touch the big ARCs during the first 2 weeks and missed out on all the freak exploits so i guess it's on me for not being a 24/7 streamer
i never got to experience PvE, maybe this is it for me
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>>548187668
yes, i've actually stalked one of these retards before, they get the hullcracker and rush to the nearest extract where they ALSO try to kill any non hostile waiting there
they might or might not die to a single wasp in the process too, it feels like living among niggers in a white neighborhood
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>make all gear equal
>be surprised that everyone just spams the low level shit and KoS because gear doesn't matter and no gear fear
and reddit doesnt want to nerf the low level weapons or the freekit despite them being the main reasons why people are treating this game like a Warzone.
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>>548186791
>grab equalizer
>go queen
>people start it
>shear off 3 leg plates with equalizer quick
>get ganked by 2 fags running a rattler 1 and ferro 1
>escape and hatch out
Let me shoot big robots you fags
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>>548187961
>everyone uses low level shit
>no gear fear
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>>548185151
all that space it feels like it should have like double the amount of bigger enemies that patrol the outskirts too
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>>548187678
I wish I could tell you that I've seen a successful queen/matriarch lobby outside of the first few weeks, but I honestly haven't. The weekend the matriarch dropped (for real, not the false start) was the last time I saw anything productive get done on a server. The brown horde has descended upon Embark's servers, but apparently that's what they want.
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>>548188138
They are Swedish after all
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>>548188108
That could give the map a unique purpose and identity, it really does feel like it's the map that you would want to go to to fight the big Arc.
Lots of open space for them to spawn and walk around
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>>548188071
oh yeah same poster here, had 3 flare panick runs on Dam before finding a late one with friendly ppl and i was also running Equalizer
15 mins into the round and with the Queen already smoking a bit, I notice that she starts looking in my direction but not entirely
a minute later a wasp from a scout group also goes above me but ignores me for something else (i never could see the player)
i said fuck it and rushed to the nearby hatch, i never heard or saw the nigger but the ARC gave him away, i fucking hate people like this
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>>548186527
No funnily enough I went into a Dam Night Raid looking to get light bulbs from the Power Generation Complex near the north/north east side of the map. Slipped through without meeting a single dude and found a room that needed a Power Rod for entry I've never seen before

Lo and behold, the breachable container next door to the room had a Power Rod in it.
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>>548188226
*Syrian or Somali
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>>548188075
its not gear fear when its straight up the better option
>ultra rare weapon that requires you to loot high level areas and survive 10 other freekitters
or
>start immediately pvping other people for free
its more a convenience thing than gear fear.
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>>548188895
Power rods from breaches there are rng but not too uncommon at night like 1/3 chance per raid basically
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>>548188882
>chimp hiding in the trees, snickering and laughing to himself about how only stupid people climb mountains
I hate them too, anon. And they hate us (cuz they ain't us.)
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I've been playing around with the hairpin in semi-nude runs, and I've decided both that the weapon is kino and that there isn't a single reason why it shouldn't be the sole firearm accessible to freekits. It is an extremely ammo efficient gun that helps players retain a low profile with the integral suppressor. There are only a few common arc that it struggles with:
>sentries and shredders, both of which are easily solved if you spend a few moments field crafting impacts or scavenging fireball burners. With sentries you can often stealth over and then melee them to death.
>snitches. Honestly I haven't bothered attempted to kill a snitch with the hairpin, but I don't see anything wrong with freeplayers stealthing around snitches
The rest of the common arc basically get fucked in one shot. Wasps take two per rotor, but they drop light ammo to replenish your supply. That just leaves players and big arc, and I don't see a single thing wrong with freekits being incentivized to avoid confrontation with both players and big arc. Bring a custom kit if you want more firepower.

I'm wracking my brain here, but I honestly can't think of a single reason why the hairpin shouldn't be THE sole freekit weapon. Maybe give them one impact as filler to help them if they immediately face plant into a hornet or sentry.
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>>548189376
The hairpin is kino, but it will never be the ebtkit weapon, because it requires skill expression. Skill expression is White culture, and freegros should not be subjected to it unwillingly.

(btw, hairpin tears through snitches if you don't miss your shots.)
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>>548189376
Freekits should not be fighting anything. Their gameplay should be skulking around the shadows avoiding players and ARC gathering enough crafting material to make a proper kit.
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>>548186680
i am indeed new, this run i just finished i got 50k raid achievement i didn't notice loot had value like that
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can someone share some naked run routes or strats here pls? i know they were posted some generals ago but im so tired bc of gym my exhaustion is taking over thanks
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I did it guys, I beat the game and finished Hidden Bunker

I got a Blue Lightstick, a Heavy Gun Parts, and Shotgun Silincer blueprints

I didn't even use my shield rechargers
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>>548189737
>(btw, hairpin tears through snitches if you don't miss your shots.)
Good to know. I haven't bothered since I assumed that it was armored enough to resist the light ammo and I just adopted the mindset of don't play stupid games if you don't want to win stupid prizes. I guess I was being overly cautious.
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>>548189976
naked runs strictly for blueprints* i should have specified, srry bros
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The whole lobby was in the bunker
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>some guy shooting at me in Stella
>yell in proximity chat "I'm coming up behind him, gonna flank"
>he turns around
>blast him with a Toro
What a fucking idiot
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>Blue Gate night
>breaching some husks
>get sprayed
>run and heal
>push the retard with my Kettle IV
>tell him "good night!" on mic as I'm about to punch his face
>he surrenders
>he had a Stitcher IV and still lost to my Kettle
Killing rats like him is so satisfying.
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>>548189750
I agree, and that's why I think it's so outrageous that the one gun that most encourages that sneaky scavenger playstyle is the one that isn't even in the freekit spawn pool. What the everloving fuck was Embark thinking?
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>>548189976
>take red tree for field crafting and security breach
>rush breach lockers for basic weapons/ammo
>keep and rubber parts you find, so the Arc power cores you loot from pve can turn to proper shield rechargers
>kill an ebtkitter for a shield to recharge, or just pull one off a corpse if you find one
Other than that, just skulk around, loot, and have fun. Entering naked is very liberating, because you can never leave with less than you started with, and you have a safe pocket for anything truly worth losing. Or go in with a hairpin so you can handle issues on your way to security lockers. This is how the kitless should play, but again skill expression is racist. Freekits should not exist writ large. The experiment once again proves the tragedy of the commons to be correct.
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Why pugs so fucking retarded with no mics and zero attempts to ping/communicate, and why random solos are so social to a point they give you better callout on proximity chat?
There must be a phenomenon for this
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>>548190232
>>548189976
Just spawn into EMS missions and throw yourself at containers. Preferably stuff behind breach doors, but it's just a numbers game. The stuff behind breach doors just has slightly better odds. You can virtually match that by just opening a lot of regular shit. Consider the apartments on Dam battlegrounds. There's nothing special about that area, there's just a lot of containers to open in a relatively concentrated space.
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>>548190396
Kettle, Stitcher and Ferro all need fat nerfs. They should be Hairpin/Rattler tier. Its too much with all these dogs running around with top tier weapons that cost peanuts, it invalidates the entire gameplay loop
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>>548189376
>snitches. Honestly I haven't bothered attempted to kill a snitch with the hairpin, but I don't see anything wrong with freeplayers stealthing around snitches
It's not that big of a deal throw in an extended mag and level that hairpin to IV.
If you hit center of the fan area you can knock it off in a couple of shots and you fire really fast fully upgraded.
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>>548191039
I agree. I have Venators, Renegades, Torrentes, etc. sitting in my stash because it's not worth using them in this meta.
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>>548190835
>there must be a phenomena
It's just groupthink, anon. The solo players can form groups, while the grouped people already are. There is more incentive for solo players to join a group that has already formed then for a grouped player to merge groups or leave the one he's in. You will ironically always find more cooperative players by queueing solo.
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>>548191392
>Venator not worth using in the venator meta
really
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>>548191329
I've been informed that I've overestimated the quality of the snitche's armor plating. That's what I get for only ever shooting them in the past with medium/heavy ammo.
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>>548191492
Don't really see a point in using it when the white weapons are so much cheaper to run and have the same punch.
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>>548191392
>>548191492
The venator is the one worth considering using since it's the one weapon that seriously feels like it has an objective advantage over just running around with stitcher/kettle. But again the stitcher/kettle can be spammed for the cost of two sticks of gum and a piece of string.
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>>548190140
They had to set the bar very low in case a nigger equipped a hairpin on accident. Can't make the tools too complex for the lower apes.
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>nigger freekit teammates aggros 2 rocketeers
>lures them over and closes a door
>They instantly lock on to me
>too close to dodge
>Downed
>my game is bugged and spacebar is being held without me realizing
>autosurrender
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Thoughts on the astronaut outfit? Might rotate out soon
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my kinda spawn
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>>548192472
holy fucking chad.
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Fixing the game:
Combat stuff
>Reduce the headshot multiplier on grey weapons
>Freeniggers restricted to the rattler I and hairpin I
>all offensive quickuse items removed from freeniggers (field crafted impacts and fireballs/wasp drivers are RIGHT THERE you lazy fucks.)
>shield effectiveness increased across the board
>active shields fully negate headshot bonuses
>blue shields receive an additional bonus vs buckshot and light ammo, while pink ones gain a bonus against medium as well
>TTK now has wiggle room for higher rarity weapons to receive some buffs

RNG bullshit
>Reverse Engineering Projects so that players aren't at the whims of RNG to get gear. They work as follows:
>consume one copy of a craftable item to start a reverse engineering project
>begins an expedition-style project where you are given a series of shopping lists of assorted items
>upon completion, you receive the BP
>intensity of a reverse engineering project varies based on rarity. Individual recipes can be individually balanced.
Players receive a means to make incremental advancements towards a desired blueprint without being utterly at the whims of blueprint RNG. Assorted junk-loot retains value long after we're done upgrading workbenches. BPs remain valuable and exciting finds because they instantly unlock the recipe without needing to go grind another batch of rusted gears. Embark can directly balance the project requirements to prevent reverse engineering from invalidating BPs.
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>>548192472
wha...
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>>548192736
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>>548189976
> Night buried city - pharmacies
> Night/EMS dam - apartments or research, whichever's closest
> Night/EMS blue gate - village
Don't bother with other locations and maps.
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>>548192736
>I am the storm that is approaching
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>>548192971
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>>548193195
are ya winnin son
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>>548192472
based
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beautiful fireworks
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>>548192472
Is that how it went down for Hitler ?
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>>548190749
>>548191026
>>548193074
ty brothers, Godspeed
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>>548192971
Beautiful.
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anyone with a showstopper or explosive mine bp for trade?
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how's it feel to lose a fight to a hurt raider going down on a zipline against exposed high ground you extract camping nigger? kill yourself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST_fD5NL_pg&t=1341s
Oh PvEsissies
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>>548187305
Damn, you must be really riled up about this.
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Key rooms should have a guaranteed blueprint at blue key or above
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HOW DO WE FIX THIS GAME
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>load up ferro IV night raid
>everyone sees me shootin down the snitches
>leaves me be
feelsfriendlyman
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>>548194581
Is that compensator III? What do you want for it?
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>>548195792
Yes and what do you got?
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>>548196150
my gratitude
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>>548192736
Some part of me wants to just go to hidden bunker with like 30 showstoppers and just spam them at the group until I'm out. Just for fun. Wish it did damage like the jolt mine desu
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>>548193074
>>548193878
Just got this from the Pattern House btw. Night dam my beloved...
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>>548196308
Never found a BP there sadly
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>>548190749
>proper shield rechargers
Now if only it were easy to find a fucking shield without killing a player
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>>548196308
5 STEEL SPRINGS I CAN MAKE 5 EXTENDED MAGS WITH THAT
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lvl 40 and only 10 bps unlocked....
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>>548195004
So they released an online multiplayer looter shooter game and didn't give even two thoughts about the late game experience?

Sasuga.
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>>548194347
Hey, that was me ggs
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>>548196478
Well if you're a farmlet then my condolences, but yeah, 9 springs per mk3 mag hurts. You get 12 per day from traders, then you can just recycle whatever mk2 mags you find, that's aside from finding springs and recyclables.
>>548196150
My dupes aren't super impressive, let me know if you want any of these.
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Whence doest thouest blues of printings drop?
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>>548196702
Only PvE combat gains any kind of serious advantage from bringing rarer gear into a raid, and some free nigger who is risking nothing can delete you in less than a second.
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>>548196858
In EMS raids. Just start opening containers. It's all RNG. Stuff in breach rooms have slightly better odds.
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Today, I will remind them
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best stuff to recycle for springs?
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>bring tempest and heavy shield
>get stitcher 1'd in a single mag
Why bother with purples
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What does Stella night raid actually change? I was expecting it to be pitch black but it's more or less the exact same
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YOU'RE BAD IF YOU DIE TO A FREEKIT GET GOOD LOLLMAO

ACATUALLY
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>>548196858
>>548196695
Used to be that "raider" type loot (i.e, raider caches, supply drops, battery hand-in) had a good chance of giving BPs.
in a pre-stella release change they immensely reduced BP chances from "raider" type loot, and seemingly stealth changed other POIs and keyrooms to not drop BPs as frequently so everyone who came in after that patch is fucked.
It's also ruined the endgame as BPs are the carrot on a stick you farm for every season - but they are now extremely random and the only way to target them is farm high container density areas like a bugman and reset if you don't hit anything.
BPs themselves are also really imbalanced. there are plenty examples like this >>548196308 where the cost is far too high and the BP becomes pointless outside of value stacking for reset.
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>>548197259
Rusted tools give 1 and are pretty abundant during night in my opinion. Cooling coils, Spring cushions and ruined accordians break down into multiple. Level 2 and 3 mags is the only other ones i think.
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>>548196858
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ihf1rLHYAPhgBlGD5LTzApGJx046a5elEczol8ZD88I/edit?gid=0#gid=0
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>>548197326
It's so dumb because it's possible to spawn into a version of the map where the power is out and everything is illuminated by emergency lights. But I guess that's just weather for the map and not a night raid thing.
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>>548197536
Naked runs are a blight the amount of dead empty bodies from naked run surrenders is crazy during night and storm raids
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>>548197326
Idk i just know theres 3-4 easily accessible black boxes on stella and im hoping night makes them act more like blue gate black boxes and will shit out the mk3 augments i want but no luck so far
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>>548198102
I hit those at least 30 times in a row and got jack shit. It's just the room on blue gate, not the black boxes in particular
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>>548197723
Just wait until you have tarkov-level loot vacuum cheaters whose sole purpose is to enter your raid, immediately shove the single good BP in the raid up their ass and surrender, then go sell it through their chinkoid reseller for 50c
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>>548198187
Damn thats gay, i hit them and multiple other areas like 6 times last night and didnt see a single bp from stella at all meanwhile buried city shits them out at me.
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>>548197326
>>548197710
It does feel like the power out mode of the map should be the night raid version. Maybe change the daytime variant to have it be like a "air recycler failure" and parts of the map are covered in thick fog/smoke.
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>>548182215
Where did you go? Dam during storm?
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What's the point of getting super high scores? Are you guys getting into sweat leaderboards, for me at least it looks like just getting 4k in all 5 categories will put you in top 20 and a 2x promo.
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>find/craft good gun
>fully upgrade good gun
>afraid to lose good gun
>join game with shitty/mediocre gun (or free gun) while good gun never leaves stash
>mfw

You should be able to put weapons in your safe pocket or at least have a single weapon pocket in higher level augments.
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>>548199062
Yeah you can clear 50k with a good spawn and not losing time to PvP, thankfully most of the husks are in low traffic areas so I think I've been shot at once attempting it

Clearing Old Battleground, Red Lakes, and some of the player spawn points near Testing Annex should get you like 35k+
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>>548199572
Wouldn't matter because you still would just leave it in your pocket or die getting ambushed while using a PVE weapon.
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>>548197232
Ven stats are pre-nerf btw
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>>548199572
A gun pocket would be nice, does Tarkov let you shove smaller guns up your ass? Though with the TTK you'd hardly have time to react and shove it up your ass if you get jumped.
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>>548199310
Higher tiers have sweatier players i missed the first week so 24k is still getting me double rank up but my friends higher group 35k isnt even top 20
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>>548199742
Also if you have squad Spaceport is better but it's too fucking big for a solo to clear it all
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>>548199828
>does Tarkov let you shove smaller guns up your ass?
No. It used to be a thing(you could shove a rifle in there) and it was dumb af but I don't remember why.
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Formicai has a jumping puzzle.
300h and i haven't seen this before.
don't tell reddit if it's the first time this has been posted anywhere.
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>>548199840
>35k isn't enough
Damn, I feel like the Tryhard ranks are gonna be my plateau if that's the case.
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>>548199572
>I should never lose my good gear
No. There should be less safepockets, not more. And honestly, the only thing that should be able to go in the safe are crafting mats. Everything should be fair game. Otherwise thats how we end up with 20 naked guys at all the looting hot spots. Its a dumb system where the optimal way to play is to go naked.
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>>548199980
Anything good up there?
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>come home
>all night raids and ems just ended as I was about to queue in
>need to wait an hour for new ones
this is so stupid
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>>548199980
I've done it since day 1, you can do it in any of the towers. Sometimes you get a weapon case, ammo case, medbag, or grenade tube
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>>548199980
I saw some dudes trying for it while doing the quest there, as I was leaving one of them fell and their flare popped and the other dude went "oh shit" which was funny.
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>>548199572
This is why I only use the Ferro
If I had anvil blueprint, maybe I would use that, but Ferro is cheap and trusty
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>>548200082
Safepocket on naked is crazy especially since indoor arcs are a joke you can outrun.
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how much ammo should I bring for the hullcracker for matriarch
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>>548200781
a ferro 1 and stitcher 1 with about 30 heavy ammo and 100 light ammo is enough to kill the one guy fighting it and take his gear
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>>548201016
that's evil
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>>548201070
don't worry, once you equip the hullcracker, someone else with a stitcher 1 will kill you and continue the cycle.
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>>548200608
It is funny too they have this idea that a casual extraction shooter should have no gear fear when gear fear is a big attraction to these games! Thats what makes it fun, at any moment you can lose your cool stuff. Getting rid of that turns it into Warzone.
They already have systems in place to lessen the impact of gear loss, cheap entry to the game, being able to craft the gear. Its just that the balance for these mechanics are fucked right now. BPs should spawn more, not be safe pocketed so you have a chance if you dont spawn next to the best loot places and such and such other good suggestions seen here.
A casual TTK should not mean never lose good gear. It should mean low cost of entry, high TTK, simplified shooting and healing, but ARC has some of these ideas in the game, but the number balancing is just fucked.
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>>548200082
if its a valid strategy and game mechanic to kill other people for their loot its fair game if i give them absolutely nothing and am fine with only having 1-2 items in my ass
t. hairpin enjoyer
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buried city night raids are unplayable due to everyone just camping extracts. this game is actually poorly designed.
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>>548202089
what would you change, game master kun
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>>548202217
zero damage zone around extract so pve is the only option. you already got to extract safely, you get to leave with your loot. fuck every extract camping nigger in this game
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>>548201697
>Getting rid of that turns it into Warzone.
More like Fortnine with persistent loot
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>>548202089
Fun fact: the shitter camping you (also shitter) also has to extract.
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>>548192472
It was bound to happen eventually lol
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>>548202089
Naked run night city is the only way to play due to extractfags since it has some of the worst extract points. Just play day if u need something from it that you cant just safepocket
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>>548202463
One of the anons put it in my head, although I did see a few people start doing it on day one of this trial set
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>>548202089
Some extractions look like they were designed to camped
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>buried city night raid's last extract is always the one that's through the hole in the ground
Yep, it's aids.
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>>548202775
2 blazes on the ropes and a smoke inside usually deters ambush camp who wait for train to arrive. If already posted up it is basically death though
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>>548199980
Half of the "easy loot, no pvp" videos on jewtube tell you to climb up there.
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>>548203364
I wish you motherfuckers had told me about Breach when i first started
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>>548200082
I'd go in loaded for bear, but expensive gear at best provides an extra 0.04 femtoseconds of survivability.
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>>548203364
>overencumbered stam regen
its shit, if you instead invest into the shield break roll and less equipped weapons weight you are way better off
i have never been overencumbered with those in a long time
raider chace extra loot has never triggered for me yet, better take 3 deep breaths for 2s less no stam usage after depleting it completely
not a fan of the slide either, most opinions online looked like it doesnt do shit
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>>548203985
Yeah the equipped weapon weight reduction saves you like 6-8 pounds depending.
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Do Tagging Grenades affect enemies through walls in the aoe they affect? Like can I just chuck a tagging grenade and it'll tag enemies behind cover or does the grenades "explosion" have to hit them to tag them?

Like if I think someone's standing on the other side of a door can I tagging grenade my side of the door and hit them with it?
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>>548204252
afaik, through walls
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I wish there was more of a way to interact with the asshole players that just KOS.

Like, if you wanna be a good Samaritan, there are no rewards for it. You are always on the backfoot, get less easy loot etc.

Meanwhile there is zero punishment to just sit at extraction with a Jolt mine and Stitcher 4 and collect free loot without any hard work or negatives. Like yeah sure I can remember your name but there's hundreds of thousands of players and you dont even see someone's name unless they talk on mic.

I wish you could like, paint them for a vendetta or something. Some ingame mechanic to put up a bounty against them, put a target on their back or a way to go after them yourself again.
Like some sort of mode where you can queue into their game and hunt them down

As it stands I just feel like a retard actually playing the ga,e looting, recycling, crafting, building a cool loadout and this retard with two cheap items steals all my shit
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>>548204662
Genuinely surprised this wasn't a reddit post.
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To the night raider on buried city
I'm sorry man, we were friendly when we met, then we split. I got ambushed by someone I didn't see and bolted, I was jumpy and you ran around the corner. I just saw some guy running at me in the dark I didn't know it was you.
Feels like shit brahs, the one time I don't bring a defib
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noway
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Just add the SCAV Karma system to freekitters.
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I WILL CONTINUE TO DO RAT ACTIVITIES
I WILL SCREAM INTO THE MIC AFTER I KILL YOU
I WILL CALL YOU A NIGGER, WORTH NOTHING MORE THAN DIRT
AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS UNTIL I GET BANNED BECAUSE THIS GAME SUCKS
NO BALANCE
NO CONTENT
AI VOICES
NO LOOT PROGRESSION
JUST A SADNESS SIMULATOR
SO I WILL BE AN ABSOLUTE FUCKHEAD TO MAKE YOU SUFFER MORE
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>average spacestation goop
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>>548204662
I'm told that this would be bad for the game. it has nothing to do with making people who actually like pvp go after rats though
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>>548205503
The the freenigger SEETHES at the thought of consequences
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>>548206474
Fucking imagine if low karma freeshitters had even less access to extracts forcing them to congregate around them while HIGH KARMIC PLAYERS get access to more extract points or can even special high karma hatches.
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4 Matriarch lobbies and everyone is just using the event to loot goblin. Grim.
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>>548206850
hey thats me
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>>548207191
Also me
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Anyone else just freekit to get quests done? Not risking my shit especially for the "in one round" quests lmao.
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>>548207250
i also freekit in to learn the weapon case spawns woah
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>another YT fluff piece
We want a proper patch and non ugly cosmetics, Embark, not your reddit coded content.
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>>548206021
>it has nothing to do with making people who actually like pvp go after rats though
PvE players really struggle to understand this but, unlike you, there are people who actually like the concept of the game and aren't just playing it because it's popular. They enjoy both PvE and PvP. They like the dynamic nature of player interactions. Sometimes they might KoS and sometimes they might help someone kill a leaper. They might do both in the same match. Anything that marks them for doing the former is forcing them further into that and ruining what's unique about the game. This is also ignoring how easily such a system could be abused, which should be obvious to anybody with a three digit IQ, but that's besides the point.
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>>548193074
tried EMS blue gate just now and wasnt even close to getting a purple even, it was all mid tier loot, a lot of trinkets tho
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>>548207250
i never freekit, i just take a looting1/shield1 and a couple of impact nades and zoom
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>Post vita spray bp in the trade discord
>Flood of brokies offering dogshit for it
lmeow
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>fighting Bastian solo just fine
>some fag runs past and gets me hit with a rocket
>downed
>fag is looting around
>crawling my way back with survival kit
> fag runs up to me and starts to punch me
>"HEY HEY HEY WHOA WHOA WHOA STOP LEAVE ME ALONE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING PLEASE LET ME EXTRACT"
>kills me
I didn't even have anything, I just really liked that kit, fuck this game
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>>548208932
owned
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>>548208932
bombadier*
>>548209028
go fuck yourself, I hope karma is real and all you evil fucks have a horrible life when you reincarnate
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>>548208885
All hard farmers who had good bps to trade are already circulated out now its all people trying to offload shit bps for gold ones like vitaspray, looting mk3 survivor and purple guns (sans bettina)
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>>548209090
my kit now (:
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I have over 300 hrs played… i get a new bp like every 25 hr if im lucky
Ive only done 30 quests and im mot touching expeditions
My inventory is always full and i have like 5mil coins

Yet i still play

(Why is the captcha impossible?)
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>>548208932
>"HEY HEY HEY WHOA WHOA WHOA STOP LEAVE ME ALONE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING PLEASE LET ME EXTRACT"
>tfw you make anon start pleading for his virtual life
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Gamer words are back in a big way.
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>>548209171
yeah that's the game, I gift people Vita Spray all the time and would probably give that kit out for free too if I had the blueprint, I don't get people who troll post, but I guess some people are just evil and don't consider if the situations were reversed

I would have spared that guy and helped him to extract, even if Ihe didn't have that kit, I would try to help him with bandages and vita spray
>>548209261
He literally used his mic a minute before, and then suddenly became a silent sociopath when it came to actually being an evil person
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In case everyone missed it, they're going to make "certain modes" PvE (which obviously would mean the boss fights) but not until the current roadmap is done.

Games dead, time to go home.
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>>548208932
A few hes ago i got betrayed by an algerian and lost my fav kit + a million grenades and things i couldnt fit in my stash. What’s worse is i was expecting it but still lost the quick draw. We were face to face
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ive met 20 people at spacestation(NA) and no one has kos'd me
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Honestly still don't know if i should do the expedition. On one hand losing my blueprints sucks, but on the other hand i don't really have anything left to do in the game
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the game will die if they dont do this (all together)

balancing
>make freekit rattler 1, identifiable uniform
>buff all blues and purples, slight nerf to grays, increase gray gun crafting cost
>nerf explosives in PvP
>remove raider death flares
>freekits spawn in late
>add more blueprints to quests

content
>add a LOT more guns
>gatekeep more high level gear behind high level PvE
>keep adding more ARCs, map conditions that mean more than just "better loot"

playstyle/roleplay aspects
>add reputation/faction aspects with things like respective traders, (customizable) cosmetics, challenges, discounts, skilltrees, etc.. a PvE one, PvP one, and Looter one (basically neutral)
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>>548209686
Source
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The game will die if they don't do this

Character
>make them an anime girl with fat tits and a big ass
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>>548210000
Agree with everything except the raider flares, they're fine
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ZAMN
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>>548210148
thats because you have less than 20 hours ingame
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the game will die if they dont do this
>Make an arc sexbot
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>>548209686
That's kind of exactly what's needed, PvE only modes will act as a quarantine zone for babbies, they should keep one of the bosses (queen/harvester) PvP and make matriarch and every boss that follows PvE until 1 min after the boss dies or something, with contribution based loot.
As a KOS PvPer i really can't fucking stand the game's implementation of PvPvE where the only winning move is letting everyone else do the work and ninjaloot the blueprint
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>>548210000
raider death flares are there to alert everyone of a kos fag
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>>548206850
I now realise that getting both boss BPs in my first two boss games was pretty insane. Kinda robbed the joy of getting it later once I understood how hard it was though.
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>>548205395
damn she just got a kino extract just now ...why cant i get these lobbies
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>>548202217
Every time you extract camp someone you permanently lose 1 stash spot
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>>548210096
Ive lost it, the video stream the devs did recently at 1:30:00 mark if anyone can find it.

But the new youtube vid also brings up adding in PvE modes.
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>>548205395
bros shes higher level than me wtf...
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>close to the edge on the leaderboard
>don't know if I can make any Trial scores higher
>damage Rocketeers I needed 4 wolfpacks and killed 2
>Hidden Bunker maxed
>Search First Wave Hussks
>took me a whole Bluegate match just to find 10 and get the minimum
>Damage Snitches
>same thing, took me a whole match on spaceport to almost get 5k
>tried again earlier during Hidden Bunker and barely any spawned
>Damage Ground-Based ARC enemies
>killed a Bastian and Bombadier and Leaper in one match
>haven't been able to replicate that but get close on Hidden Bunker or Queen/Matriarch
I guess I'll have to prepare and try for Hidden Bunker, since Queen/Matriarch was expensive with the Hullcracka
or just hope nobody passes me
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>>548210467
..and it results in drawing in atleast 2-3 more every single time, completely self-defeating mechanic, getting rid of it will reduce 3rd partying and killing on sight.
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This game has an identity problem, and the devs already admitted it when they said that they thought the PvE was boring and slapped on PvP. The problem is, the only reasonably entertaining part of this game is the PvE grind. Figuring out the most effective ways to kill various larger bots, dodgerolling rocketeer rockets and leaper jumps, finally taking down that pain-in-the-ass bastion or bombardier and ripping out their cores, working with randoms to take down a matriarch or queen; all of those are more fun than the PvP featurethey slapped on near the end of development to add more playtime to the game.
While that part of the PvE grind is fun, the problem arises that after you get the materials to make a thing from the large bots, there's really no other reason to kill the bots. You can't grind out matriarch/queen kills for random loot pool drops like a chance at a blueprint that you wouldn't find in a container somewhere. After you upgrade your workbenches, why would you go out of your way to kill a rocketeer again?
That leaves only the PvP side of things, which is really just a battle of who clicked first, or who caught who by surprise. The TTK in the game is, on average, too low to react to a person shooting you, especially if you're looting or otherwise in a menu. I, as a brand new player, can craft a Stitcher, ammo, a basic shield and looting kit, and then go out and kill a person fighting current "end-game" content like a matriarch or queen, then take their loot and leave.
The identity problem is going to become much worse as more people max out their levels and run out of unique things to do in the game. The expeditions are not going to be worthwhile for a lot of people, especially those that don't play often, as losing your blueprints and levels/skills just to grind them out again isn't exactly fun. Having an optional wipe just shouldn't be a thing; either wipe everybody at the same time, or have no wipes.
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>>548210892
how will less punishment for killing someone result in less kos
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>>548210816
>damage ground-based enemies
spam wolfpacks during matriarch, hatch key out
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>>548204662
The good samariton reward is that you found someone.
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>>548211041
damn, I'm out of wolfpacks, but I'll keep that in mind if I ever get the blueprint
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I wonder how many devs are scrambling to make their own version of AR or changing current projects to make an AR-like.

All I've seen is more corner peeking tactical shite like PUGB Black Market and Beautiful Light but there's already a bunch of those, it's so stupid.
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>>548204662
we need da division rouge mode where everyone gets an alert to kos you
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>>548210893
its fixable if they give it proper gear progression (albeit casualized), better pvp balance, add lots of personalization/status signalling and rpg-like social aspects but i think the devs arent cut out for this and will want to rely on the shitty and overpriced "outfit" cosmetics for example.
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>>548211125
It's also really easy to do duing hidden bunker, all ground arcs spawn on top of the bunker, it gives 2x progression and most lobbies go entirely PvE mode for that event
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>spawn late
>surrender
this is why i take freekits. i don't want your fucking sloppy seconds of a raid
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>>548211027
you're assuming that every kill in the game is "kos guy kills a pver", when in reality a ton of the deaths are a freekit kosfag getting killed in self-defense, then 5 other freekit kosfags rush in like flies to kill the guy who just defended himself
raider flares arent a "punishment" and they aren't intended to be, its just giving away position, to the detriment of how the game plays whether you want good pvp or good pve/immersion
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>>548211226
That's what I was thinking, it seemed like there were 2 bastians around, then it's just killing a 3rd and that would push my score
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The combination of low TTK, third-person corner peeking and bad tickrate makes PvP in this game an uniquely bad experience. Nothing like shooting someone for them to enter cover or hide at the end of a hall, so now both of you are in a perpetual standoff because whoever gets out of cover just get cornerpeeked and shot to shit
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>>548181657
We're in the GTA IV phase where smart people are crafting the game but nignogs and bugs are going to beg for yellow paint everywhere and that grey weapons should not harm them because they are wearing yellow paint and the horde will make GTA V 'more popular' because there's less people in it but more soulless husks pouring in.
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>>548210893
Pretty big black pill to swallow desu
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Earlier an orange ski mask didn't KoS me on Spaceport. I think it's because he rushed to KoS people trying to kill Queen.
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>>548211392
so just take the flare away from the free kit
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>>548211714
3rd partying from 300m+ away is inherently shitty, let me guess you've been doing naked runs for 100 hours?
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>>548210893
Based and logic pilled
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>>548211581
Professionals have their priorities set. You need better gear to get their attention.
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>>548211581
>Orange mask rolls up near the end of a Matriarch lobby
>Hey man got any light ammo I can help you
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>>548210000
>make freekit rattler 1,
hairpin 1
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>>548210560
>both boss BPs in my first two boss games was pretty insane.
You don't have the third?
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>>548212097
how is that even a response to what I said?
you don't want to be punished for defending yourself from rabid freekitters, so remove it from free kit
you just don't want any repercussions from kosing
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>>548211168
Im just happy to be playing third person again. Because it was the genre on ps2/3 and then died for ages. Helldivers and Arc bring me so much joy.
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>>548141767
any alternatives to this but with Queen, anon? she spawns much farther away in an open area so its kinda sketch
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Why does scoping in with the osprey shift your aim to the left? I keep trying to "correct" against it and fucking up my target tracking
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>>548212539
Which was is the third? Ive got Equalizer and Aphelion
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>>548210893
Good post right there. I think it's gonna get far worse with the expedition since you'll get players with gear and blueprints but without the edge pvp wise, and fresh wipers who will start to kill everyone they meet to get some easy loot back if the content is limited as it is now. Maybe the devs will manage something satisfying, but I doubt it. I doubt they'll even ever fix shields and basic weapons or TTK issues.
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>>548212553
you can hear gunshots from quite far away which should be enough attention gathering
the "repercussion" for attacking somebody is the fight itself and the risk taken, you still risk getting 3rd partied from all the other factors (making noise, drawing ARCs), the thing is the flares are an extreme that show literally across the map that somebody just died, and somebody else is extremely vulnerable, it draws in people who otherwise would not be or could be thinking otherwise, it dramatically changes the odds of things and encourages a chainreaction of low-risk braindead 3rd partying
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>>548212884
The three are equalizer, aphelion, and jupiter.
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>>548212286
>>548212371
I make it a rule to KoS any ski mask of any color scheme because they've always turned out to be rats in my case.
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>>548210893
The fact the devs think PvE cant have tension is going to kill this game. They simply didnt make content hard enough.
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>>548200781
However much you want to contribute to your local nigger's welfare.
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I just want the snow maps to come out already
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>>548213780
I have a feeling we'll see fewer niggers, if you get what I'm saying.
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>>548213780
>walking anywhere
>CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH
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>>548213780
dont worry' the swiss part of the map will give us 4 new maps with snow variants
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>>548213486
They could have taken inspiration from Shadow of the Colossus or Monster Hunter for large bots, but they instead asked the biology question "wat if ant was 5000x bigger" and then when they found out exoskeletons don't work at larger sizes they turned them into robots
half the bots in the game are just the same thing but different sizes.
>ticks, queens, matriarchs, emperors (background characters as of right now) and barons (the husks that put on a rock and roll light show when you pop their hatch) are all the same, just different sizes
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do BPs even spawn on stella montis?
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>>548214026
Yeah agreed. Im convinced the dev team is exceptional artists and music designers then mid programmers and game designers. They need some more MH/Souls influences.
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What the fuck is a Wall Leap?
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>>548214026
they should just pay a royalty to Shiftup devs and ripoff some of Nikkes enemy boss designs.
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>>548214298
Yes, I got a wolfpack bp in the assembly keyroom.
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how do youtube comments have more IQ than these fucking finnswed devs
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>>548213486
It's clear they don't have a real idea to make the game a good one. The casual side isn't bad but forcing cooperation through tough content or making intense pvp (or both but it ain't christmas yet I'm afraid) should have been a priority, moreso when they realized their pve content wasn't engaging enough. A shame, these swedes were close to greatness.
>>548213780
At this rate they won't even give us of snowball fights
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>>548214378
Jumping backwards during mantling, the perk makes you go backwards further.
Useless garbage in 99/100 scenarios.
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>load up for the damage trials on EMS dam
>epic 17:30
>go to extract after futzing around a bit
>guy throws fuze grenade while I am halfway done with the return console
>believe in myself and let it ride
>blows up just as i finish, immediately dive for the mid-elevator blocker, avoid by bullet
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>>548214439
ive done like 15 night runs opening everything havent found a single damn thing but a kinetic converter stock
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>>548210893
Some thoughts of mine about problems and potential solutions:
>freeniggers
Right now they're mostly a bunch of rabidly aggressive murderhobos adding a hell of a lot of extra risk to each run.
>grey weapons are too powerful relative to pinks
A core tenant of the genre is that players can risk bringing higher quality gear into a run, and in turn reap the reward of higher performance. But that's not true in ARC. Any nigger with a stitcher is neck and neck with someone rocking full pink gear. The largest reward that players get from bringing extra gear into a mission comes from traps covering their back, or mobility items letting them access special parts of the map.
>looting value is hyper-concentrated within the BPs.
Why risk anything when your reward fits within your anus? Rush the loot rooms nude. Loot the containers. Who cares if you die? Just respawn and try again until you can shove the only thing that you care about up your ass.

As far as solutions go, I think a number of things need to happen.
>1: Increase the power gap between common and rare gear
I think TTK needs to go WAY up so that there is wiggle room to actually differentiate the common gear from the rare. There's no functional difference if both kill in an eyeblink.
>2: Reign in freenigger aggression
Give them kits that are dogshit for ganking. Remove their grenades. Restrict them to rattler I and hairpin I.
>3: Shift loot value towards what cannot be shoved up your ass.
Increase crafting costs so that extracting with a big pile of crafting mats has more value. This increases the value of looting intact copies of augments/weapons in the field since that represents an expensive craft that you don't need to perform. Sure you can shove BPs or cherished items up your ass, but big picture you will need to routinely extract with either big piles of crafting mats or piles of pre-assembled gear.
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When's the next bunker? I dont need the data anymore and just want to kill the bastion and Bombardier that spawn at the entrance
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The looting RNG today is god damned fucking dogshit, haven't found a single fucking blueprint after looting red areas as well as bum fuck nowhere random areas (because reddit fags always find blueprints there) all day
Theres literally no point looting when all you ever fucking find is shit that that stupid fucking chicken gives you for free. If I loot a high tier loot area I need to be finding at least 2-4 pinks but no
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>>548208885
Want a Tempest BP for it?
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>>548214895
Had no idea that was a thing
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last week data suggests that even if ARC Raiders has an overall bigger playerbase, it's definitely bleeding more people overall than Battlefield 6 which has stabilized at 200-250k peaks per day
during the week numbers in particular are choking the game down, which means it has a bigger CASUAL playerbase, who are definitely gonna exodus faster the more devs postpone fixing the fucking economy and pvp balance
EMBARK WAKE UP, i'm not shitting here, I've seen this story happen before with The Finals
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EMS dam my beloved...
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>>548211541
>GTA IV blackpill
Thanks for reminding me
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>>548215871
>I've seen this story happen before in The Finals
So have they, anon, so have they...
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>>548214026
>They could have taken inspiration from Shadow of the Colossus or Monster Hunter for large bots
That's what they did in the first version and it was dogshit
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Research building my beloved...
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>94k points is barely enough for single promotion

Reeeeeeeeee
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>killed a fellow freekitter on stella night raid
>had a snowglobe on him
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>>548217394
>Matriarch and Queen feel like MH with friendly fire turned on.
They've got the recipe. They just need to balance the ingredients.
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>>548215871
the swedes never learn
just look at helldivers
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free kits need to be fucked over somehow, people need to be made to engage with the risk/reward mechanics. even with loot as ubiquitous as it is you CAN become poor in this game if you keep bringing in high end shit and losing it- it just doesn't fucking matter if you can insta-queue until you get a stitcher, win one fight, and take all of the reward with none of the risk
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>>548217875
Just needs to be hairpin/rattler only, can only spawn into late raids.
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>>548217875
There is a million ways to do this but the important part is nothing will be done to change it.
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Easy solution to freekits, you're forced to sell/recycle any gear you get from the run.
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>queue into Queen lobby again to get a kill
>23 mins
>flares keep going up and shes not even smoking
fuck this game, its unplayable
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You should KoS anyone with a light ammo weapon. Light ammo weapons are for people whose sole intent is killing people, they are useless against ARC. It's the mark of someone who has betrayed humanity
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Is expedition worth it?
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I'm conflicted on naked runs. On one hand, it being the best way to farm BPs is fucking cancer and I will never wipe until they fix this, on the other, it's peak comfy to pull 3-4 new BPs every night before bed with the game muted while I listen to GFE ASMR.
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>>548218681
regardless of how comfy it is it isn't good for the game
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FINALLY
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>>548218915
Share where you found it anon
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>show up to the Harvester last minute
>pretend I was always there
>defib guy twice
>earn trust
>snag the BP
>anyone asks if they got something good
>"nah"
>leave
Works every time
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>>548218681
I don't think it matters because the entire loot-reward structure for this game is completely fucked. Who cares if people are going naked to get blueprints, you have people spawning with only 18 minutes left on raid, you have grey weapons being better than 90% of the rarer alternatives, you have a problem where grey/green loadouts can accomplish literally any goal in the game to the point where bringing more gear becomes entirely detrimental, PvP is entirely gear-agnostic while PvE requires good gear meaning that PvE players just become loot pinatas for players who don't care at all and are running free loadouts, the entire economy is entirely fucked.
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>>548219006
Santa Maria houses in a drawer in the house with the "secret" room
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>>548218502
Nobody knows yet.
For me, yes. The endgame blueprint loop is fucking gay and everything is pointless. The reset is equally pointless cause you're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm doing those asinine quests again, or upgrading workbenches, or any of that shit. I'm going out ferro/stitch every time and I don't give a FUCK.
Just give me the skin even if its dogshit, I don't care. And I'll just do expedition again, that'll be my only focus besides the raider deck/events next season.
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>>548219162
That cat is pissed off
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>>548218497
they're incredibly useful for efficiently swatting wasps away
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>>548219162
damn is that real?
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>>548212803
I'd just do what everyone else does on Dam, they go inside that small room with windows overlooking the Queen. Just bring door blockers, noise makers and jolt mines then set a zip system leading straight down to the queen and one towards the hatch. similar to linkrel>>547750170

fighting her from this roof isn't ideal because queen has arching attacks that can land up there
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>>548219162
HOLY SHIT
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>>548217875
Remove their grenades and restrict them to rattler 1/hairpin 1.
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>>548218497
Light ammo is perfectly fine for most of the small arc.
>t. Hairpin
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>>548219791
It is actually fucking insane freekits can spawn in with shit like mines and heavy fuses/det nades
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>>548219048
>>548219162
This is exactly where my head is at with this game
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>>548219983
It's completely egregious. I've been running semi-nude with the hairpin and running around Stella. Everyone acts like the shredders are fucking terminators but my semi-nude ass can just roll over them with scavenged fireball burners, synthesized fuel, and field crafted impacts. All of the tools are there but people want to be directly spooned with shit like free Det grenades.
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>>548220329
Do shredders drop good stuff? I've never tried killing one before.
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>>548220103
i mean i get it right, they want the game to be a casual-friendly extraction shooter. free loadouts are more accessible so casuals can have a safety net. Greys are basically just as good as purples (with a few exceptions) because they don't want casual players getting ruthlessly shitstomped by sweats

but here's the thing and this happens in a shitload of games: if you give casuals an easy to utilize advantage- sweaty players are going to abuse the absolute shit out of those advantages, like they are with the free absolutely fucking risk/reward.

imo there needs to be more of a gulf. pvp-oriented players need to be encouraged to risk their gear. more whites need to be balanced like the rattler where they have crippling flaws differentiating them from their rarer equivalents. this won't please everyone but it's important for the game, imo

like it can't end up like tarkov where rare loot auto-wins- because then you end up with the problem where everyone always shoots on sight because there's too much at stake- but if loot doesn't matter at all a player who wants to kill for fun has absolutely no reason to reconsider insta-queue no stitcher go next until they get one and hold W at the nearest player
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>>548219048
>>548220103
they can fix the balance and progression fairly easily and then also keep it relatively casual on top of it, but they need skill and identity expression which transcends the grind and can keep a game liek this alive longterm, its also how to satisfy both the pvp and pve centric players and keep the social environment it had early on. nobody will listen to me though.
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>>548220443
shotgun ammo, their armor (useless) and normal arc loot
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>>548217875
Limit them to 3 a day, with the possible trade it will give enough ressources to shitters so they feel good. Also, remove the ass pocket on naked runs. No real loadout, no play. Gut the magazine on the stitcher, buff medium/heavy shields. Make epic guns good. Put more ARC on any given map. Force players to engage with the game. Make cooperation a necessary thing even for casual solo play. Let the real ones be lone wolves, and the carebears bond together through suffering. Make rats go back to the margins of history instead of being feared.Balance the game around pvp interactions, and let the good loot flow freely between many hands. In a such a game, ARC should be a near constant nuisance, a threat you don't forget about while you battle raiders for the best gear.
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>blue gate matriarch
>everyone is stuck under the recessed circle
>I'm in a building nearby
>some rat shoots me in the back
>run inside
>watch the rocky outcrop
>nothing
>run outside
>go behind rocks
>see him further away looking for another target
>sneak up behind him
>kill him
is there a better feeling
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>>548220443
IIRC they tend to drop a mix of shotgun ammo, mechanical parts, the usual power core/arc alloy, and then also some new green loot item that's named something like shredder armor that is worth 3k.

If you are using guns, target the blue jets of their thrusters. But mostly just hit them with explosives. I swear one of those magnet grenades does 90% of its hp. ~3 impacts will probably kill it or put it near death.
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>>548220878
>>548220625
I see, I'll probably just keep avoiding them unless it's one of the rare chill stella lobbies.
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>>548220526
>Greys are basically just as good as purples (with a few exceptions) because they don't want casual players getting ruthlessly shitstomped by sweats
The thing is that the sweats and freekit noobs should not be frequenting the same areas of the maps. The players in full on battle rattle should be storming the high value loot zones while the noobs should be creeping about random apartments and shit.
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Stella event ends in nine days, think they'll have another patch ready by then? I at least hope they add the shredder to other maps
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>>548221234
Stella is an event map?
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>>548221101
3k for one stackable item is decent cash for what it's worth, but avoiding them in general is OK. Just remember if one is blocking your path that you can just field craft a handful of impacts. If you've done any looting you probably have a small pile of chems/plastic on hand.
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>>548221305
Think he just means the event that came with the stella release that gave raider bucks and skins
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>>548221114
Ideally there'd be more threatening arc in all high-value zones. Shredders inside any dam POI, for example.

But for some reason the only threatening arc are all outside and way too big to threaten anyone indoors (usually). Pops, fireballs, ticks, and turrets can catch the careless and retarded, but they're total nonthreats.
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>>548221305
They added some event where we earned merits first for donating supplies and then for earning points. No clue what the merits are supposed to do though.
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>>548220526
>it can't end up like tarkov where rare loot auto-wins
Funny you mention that, because Tarkov's initial attempt at toning it down ended up being a total disaster. Armor meant nothing, kitting out guns meant nothing, the entire progression system got crippled and scav mains suddenly could go toe-to-toe with PMC's, fucking up the risk-reward balance and making many just stop playing. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
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>>548221708
Doesn't sound similar at all because unlike Tarkov Arc has good PvE
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>>548221413
>>548221449
Oh that shit, right
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>>548221445
Imagine ziplining up to control tower on spaceport and there's a shredder up there with like 3 poppers.
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>save a guy from getting backstabbed as he's looting in matriarch
>someone tries to IMMEDIATELY loot the guy I killed
>kill him
>the guy I saved now goes out to kill me
wtf are you doing, I just saved you
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>>548221234
Pretty sure it end on a monday
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>>548219162
>>548219162
Tbh with how quick and easy the quests are to complete, I really dont mind redoing them. Its just free loot.
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QUESTS SHOULD REWARDS MORE BLUEPRINTS QUESTS SHOULD REWARDS MORE BLUEPRINTS QUESTS SHOULD REWARDS MORE BLUEPRINTS QUESTS SHOULD REWARDS MORE BLUEPRINTS QUESTS SHOULD REWARDS MORE BLUEPRINTS QUESTS SHOULD REWARDS MORE BLUEPRINTS
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>>548222056
I think that's a fair response, if you shoot someone who is just going to loot you've made yourself a threat
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>>548222056
Why the fuck do you care if someone is looting a rat?
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>>548222056
>be looting matriarch
>suddenly shots and 2 people dead
>see a singular guy left alive
>he did this
you must be severely autistic if you dont see whats wrong with this situation
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How do you get that pewpewpew emote?
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>PvP more common
>Fun interactions barely happen anymore
>PvE Boss lobbies are total fiestas
>Extract campers every other run
>Nobody brings in good gear anymore anyways

Is this the fault of the game, or the fault of third worlders who ruin everyone elses experience?
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>>548222762
nevermind I just saw on the steam apge, you have to buy the deluxe edition
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>>548222369
you think I killed him for FREE?
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>>548222638
he was already aware of the guy shooting at him and saw me kill him
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>>548222967
You're spiritually KOS anon, I'm sorry.
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>>548221708
tarkov is also thanks to its mechanics a hellscape thunderdome where you would have to be an idiot to try and have a social interaction that isn't gunning someone down and calling them a retard which the developers here are clearly, explicitly not going for.

straight up arc is not worth playing if you just creep around and kill everyone you see. the emergent social shit is memorable, dime a dozen straight to fighting pvp encounters barely are. do not comprehend people who see it as a "manhunting game"
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>im the only person shooting all the legs
>5 dudes just run into the harvester
ummm is this how you kill this thing? Can the harvester be stealthed without killing the queen?
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i literally did the most dmg to a queen with my equalizer + 2 wolfpacks and some fucker beat me to the last hit for a microsecond
you bet your ass i SAMd that achievement, not gonna fall for engagement treadmill bs
at least i did it legit and didnt one shot her with a flame trap
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>>548223269
it's pretty trivial to get inside the harvester without touching the queen from what I've seen
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>>548223269
I think so, I saw a guy on youtube do that
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>>548223325
I heard you just have to magdump the queen as it's going through it's death animation to count.
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>>548223269
in between the fire phases you can just LOS the queen around the harvester.
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>>548223170
Yep, fully agree, even as a pvp oriented player. I either gun someone down for my own safety or if they actually intend on fighting me.
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>>548223342
wtfffffffff so they got all the bps while I was fighting the queen, well at least I got two queen reactors to sell...
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>>548222874
Developers fault. For not putting in any effort at all to make PvP interesting. You could do so many things with a game like this and they've done the bare minimum.
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>>548183342
everyone has a 160p muted window up (and some even have two just to ensure you get drops when they stop streaming)
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>want to hunt surveyors
>never spawn
>take loadout for pvp or normal looting
>surveyors
god i fucking hate this game
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>>548223402
nah i did all of that, was even perma shooting one one of her yellow spots on the leg for extra dmg assurance, the wolfpacks all hit her face mostly too, it's just RNG bc there were at least 8 people around
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>>548223431
i'm also a player who likes pvp. good pvp encounters make the game but the encounters that make the game special have some context to them. Stuff like dealing with a posse of solos who have teamed up to manhunt you is so much fresher than "ggs nice teamfight"
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>>548223735
Huh, that fucking sucks.
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>>548222874
ultimately the developer's role in making a game is to save the player from themselves as hard as it is
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>>548223758
yeah its coded that way, it doesnt even take dmg done into account
you have to last hit a rocketeer and bastion for the other 2 achievements as well, but thats piss easy so nobody struggles
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>>548223695
Even if you take shit specialised to kill surveyors they're fast as fuck and hard as balls to kill when they roll away
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>>548223748
Had that happen to me recently. The guy emotes don't shot but doesn't put his gun away, I blast him, but it just so happens we're near extract so two other dudes think I'm extract camping. Ended up downing one of them with an anvil from afar just to fuck with them.
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Anyone else think the expedition project and progression is almost too casual? Balance issues aside I think the cracks are showing because they made it too easy to finish everything
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PEANUT BROS.... THE STREAM IS UP! I REPEAT, THE STREAM IS UP.
ETERNAL /NUT/ GENERAL COMMENCE.
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>>548224235
look mom i posted it again
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>harvest almost always 100% drops Jupiter/Equalizer bps
are these even rare anymore
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Should I grab silent breaking or faster breaking for opening containers? I feel like silent would probably be more useful right?
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>>548223269
harvester and the queen are basically 2 events in one
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>>548224735
No and also why the fuck would you ever bother actually using one
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>>548224735
nope, go both of them on my first run on the same canister lol
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>>548224086
I just feel that other than "I'm bored" there's no reason to actually go through with the expedition. The quests aren't compelling and to be honest leveling up the workshops isn't very interesting. I was really hoping they would decide to add skins or at least additional colour options for doing it.


>>548224735
They're rare in the respect that a very small percentage of the player base have completed the harvester as it requires you to have 3 players.
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>>548224735
They guns are incredibly rare because no one is going to bother bringing them when you compare the amount of effort they take to craft vs the effort a free kitter puts in as he ganks your dumb pve ass the moment you fire them.
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>>548223269
Yes, easily. Run inside and then
1. Look for 3 batteries (1 spawns on the floor, 2 spawn inside containers inside)
2. Place all three in the center console
3. Shoot the yellow nipples that appear
4. Loot the center three silos when the challenge is over

The two attacks are
1. Fire, whole room starts flashing, just get outside by using a door or through the roof holes (this one is faster to get back in, but also more risky because the Queen may be able to hit you)
2. Electricity discharge, this can be negated by just not having a shield on

Once the event is over only 3 people get to loot the center part so hope you get a BP and slap it into your anus cavity because chances are the other guys who are not looking will starting KOS.
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>>548224775
faster is more important because its less time your ass is hanging out
the audible area with the silent breaching maxed is about a 20% reduction
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>>548225172
Fair enough that makes sense
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>>548225064
>3. Shoot the yellow nipples that appear
They also break in 2-3 hammer swings if you want to save ammo and be quieter.
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>Gear up to kill Rocketeers for the weekly
>Game spawns me with 17 minutes left
>Say fuck it and go to extract
>Die to an extract camper
Very cool, love late spawns
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>>548199980
i dont know how to get up the second set of shit after the first scaffolding
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Guys please don’t forget to doompost
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>>548224924
The PVP has actually pushed me away from the game. I'm not anti-PVP but it feels like the game has slowly become more and more about players shooting you in the back because of the extremely low TTK than it is actually having interesting PVP like in Tech Test 2.

Also the game spawns SO MANY players/teams that the moment a fight breaks out you know 2-3+ more teams/players are on their way rushing you.
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>>548225413
or maybe he was just going to extract too and didn’t trust you, so he killed you.
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>>548225635
He was LITERALLY crouched in a dark corner
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>>548225413
Can't get extract camped if you hit the button with 10s left in a round
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>>548225480
i mean that's another design thing that should push you away from defaulting to pvp but free loadout players just... do not care at all
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>>548225413
>>548225635
It's so funny to me that "Maybe he was extracting too" is always the excuse these morons make. Like it's really obvious when someone is actually moving towards the extract vs camping. Mixing the two up would be extremely difficult the way the exits are designed.
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>>548225782
I do think eventually Embark will be forced to add a timer or delay to the free kits. If they nerfed the weapons it would heavily hurt regular players on budget kits too. If they removed the healing items to make PVP more dangerous it would make them completely unviable against any ARC.

Weight limits? Free players don't care.
No safe pocket? Same thing.
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have any big brain raiders broken down their favorite loadout and balanced their 280 slots accordingly to never bottleneck?
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>>548172564
I thought this was supposed to be a casual extraction game and now it feels like it's about to turn into something else
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>>548224041
i typically just wolfpack them but i think other people are hunting them too i saw a blue beam and by time i got to area it was no where to be found assuming it was killed and others looted it out already.
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>>548210893
yeah TTK being this low while having shit like looting taking the red dead redemption 2 approach to drawn out animations for realism combined with 3rd person peaking shows how much shit clashes.
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>Some shithead camping the tower next to exfil on Spaceport
>Kills like 6 people in a row
>Lay a trap, as he finally comes down I kill him
>Some other retard ran up behind and Venators me

Awesome
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>try to give people the benefit of the doubt
>some raider hits me with the don't shoot
>be friendly
>get shot
>it's some nigger
this is how KOS stories begin
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>>548225776
you underestimate my dedication
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I voted ARC Raiders for GOTY on the off-chance they give us some more free arc coin.
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>>548225776
i'm a free loadout. what am i going to do? lose something? LMAO

I don't actually do this
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>>548225413
pack a tagging nade and lob it into the known rat spots
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>>548226602
big brain
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>>548226329
A casual extraction shooter would be something like Hunt showdown, that has as close to zero outside-match interaction as possible.
>no stash management
>no gear management
>no crafting
>no selling or stockpiling looted gear so looting only helps your current match
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Every item taking up the exact same square of stash space is really annoying.
>but just do expeditions for more stash space once you finish buying them all
That will still not actually solve the problem. Why didn't they just do grid inventory like Tarkov and let you buy ammo crates/quick use crates to dump shit into?
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>>548226329
They move around, thats why you couldnt see the blue beam

The blue beam is them surveying the area and beaming the data to the mothership, while it does this its core is exposed and takes giga damage.
When its finished, it closes up, stops the beam, and rolls somewhere new. It also closes up at even the faintest WHIFF of a Raider and rolls away
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I love this game and its atmosphere and I will not ruin my immersion by playing it like Apex Legends.
I will continue to wander through the rainy, sometimes even stormy, nights and loot every crate, drawer, car and plant I come across.
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>>548225413
>>Game spawns me with 17 minutes left
>Very cool, love late spawns
That can happen? I've never payed attention to the clock on spawn in before.
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>next one is 7 hours
eeeeeehhhhhhhm wtf
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>>548226663
I'm not even particularly mad about the rat, i'm mad at the game for spawning me late as shit and making it so i just geared up for literally nothing
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>>548226434
If I see the dreadlocks hair option or orange Ryder outfit I just KoS. It's like douche bags are specifically attracted to those.

>>548226752
Hunt isn't even really an extraction shooter. It's just a Battle Royale you have to leave for the exit after winning.
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>>548213780
are snow maps just going to be a fomo timed thing like night/ems and shit or what
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>>548173069
Gear fear? What fucking gear? All of fucking sucks. My problem is that im tired of my time being fucking wasted by grinding out something only to be rewarded with crap over and over and over again. Fuck I can't even enjoy pvp because most people flat out don't fight not because of being friendly but because they're acting like rats. Rats will always exist but if all you have for pvp is ratting then your pvp is just done for. I mean even if you don't play solo what else is there for pvp? Shields basically mean jack shit and the best guns in the game aren't even legendary. They added in pvp so the game wouldn't be a shallow pve game but forgot to make the pvp actually good and instead half assed it, stiched it onto the game and no one told them during all these playtests that it had problems because everybody's been dick riding this game like crazy.
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>>548226934
Yes, you can spawn in at 30 minutes (40 for Hidden Bunker) which is game start and nobody has looted anything yet, or as late as 17 minutes left in which your only options really are either pvp or just extract asap
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They need an in game tracker for shit like hidden bunker.
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>this shit cost 3x more cloth than the basic one
:l
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>>548223046
>>548222056

did you fuckin say ANYTHING?
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>meet a lad on spaceport night
>we chat while we loot and get nothing of value
>head to control tower a6
>a guy just got murdered
>bro goes in first and gets ratted too
>hose rat down with my hot stitcher load
>pick up bro with my secret defib
>extract together
no homo
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>>548226991
I think it will either be a permanent visual change that stays until winter ends or an event like the night/ems. I do wonder what the effects could be if so.

>>548227129
I always wonder why they chose to make the herbals out of an American flag when the game is set in Italy.
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>>548226752
Fuck off hunt showdown is not a casual extraction shooter. It's a pvp game wearing the skin of a pvpve game where barely anybody gives two shits about the pve part. All it is is pvp and maybe killing a boss.
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>>548226991
>it's fomo because it's only available every other hour forever
inigo_montoya.jpg. Yes it's a major map condition.
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>>548227081
i got chu senpai
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Anyone good with Raiders Caches?
What's the best map to farm them?

Is this map accurate? https://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map/spaceport
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>never in my life gonna craft a Jupiter/Equalizer
should I just recycle it for the power rod for dam
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>>548227204
>1 min left on Spaceport
>Watch an obviously new player die to a single hornet
>Hit him with a bandage. No defib
>He bleeds out 2m from the extract

;_;
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>>548227317
Best places are around the edges of each map. (Not the very edge but like the outer 1/4.) I find the most on Dam but if you get an event like exploding caches on Buried City you'll find them everywhere.
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>>548225413
Nah mate. When youre hunting big arc, spawming late and waiting for 10:00 game time is the strat.
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>>548227316
Fucking jesus is it really once a fucking day like this?
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>>548227693
you rike
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>>548227782
If it's once a day it should be open for like 6 hours at least.
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>>548227069
What the fuck that sucks, now I have to keep track of that too. I just assumed things would be randomly pre-looted to provide some variety ot the map containers.
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>first naked run EVER
>do it on stella on purpose just to fuck around
>this drops
not even funny at this point man, this fucking game
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Night raids ending at one of two extracts every time is lame. Having only two is good but it should randomly pick two at round start

EMS should start with all extracts up but the storm should have a chance to disable all but one at random for gameplay variety
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>>548227664
thats why i always have a defib in me ass
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>on Dam Battleground
>got another Anvil blueprint
>say in proximity chat I have a gift for the first person I see
>guy runs up
>give him the BP
>he is so stoked he insisted he gives me a Wolfpack
>thanked me numerous times as he extracted
This feeling of making some dudes day is a better feeling than any rat could ever understand.

https://streamable.com/0mdnga
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>>548222874
>Is this the fault of the game, or the fault of third worlders who ruin everyone elses experience?
Ultimately the devs.
>there is no gear progression for PvP. No risk/reward for bringing rarer gear. Just extra risk and no reward.
>freekits, and generally grey weapons in general, are just too competitive
>TTK is way too fast. There is almost never a PvP fight. It is almost always just one guy ganking another because the first guy who shoots gains a massive advantage. This SCREWS OVER anyone who dares to take the massive risk of being friendly. It also massively buffs rats who hide behind corners with their third person camera wallhack so that they can freely pre-aim and peek shoot the very instant that the prey looks away or dares interact with a container. Sub second TTK in large part thanks to absolutely fucking MASSIVE headshot multipliers.
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>>548228430
Both night and EMS feel like half baked events. The way they're designed also means the most optimal play is exit camping which is a stupid design. The only downside is that exit camping you may run into more players since everyone is funneled to the same exits.
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>>548228804
now imagine being the variety of twisted psyche that gets that same shot of pleasure from intentionally killing a downed raider as the extraction doors close
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>>548227918
>Things are randomly pre-looted
Nope, map is stacked at game start.
There is more loot on the map than can possibly be taken by every player in game anyway
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>>548228871
The only way to make the free kits balanced would be to make it so that it takes like 3 mags of a base level stitcher, ferro, or kettle to kill someone. It would put them at a huge disadvantage in every fight even if they do scummy stuff like shooting people extracting in the back. Unfortunately a large amount of the community would riot and cry.
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>>548228804
>Get knocked out inside the extraction lift by the guy that just said "Hey dont shoot! Wanna team up?" and waited with you at the lift

I am having the opposite effect. I am beginning to not care. I'd say at least 7/10 times that I give people the benefit of the doubt and say "Yes" when they say "Hey dont shoot", I end up regretting because they end up backstabbing me in some way.

This game is such an allegory for real life there are so many assholes that it genuinely ruins the experience for people who just wanna be good samaritans
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Is there a best way to farm arc cells? I am CONSTANTLY running out of them to make shield charges. Yeah I can go into a raid solo and just farm as much arc as possible but that is honestly very slow and can lead you to being killed losing everything. I feel like I need hundreds of these pieces of shit. Really wish you could trade seeds for them.
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I basically already have my inventory fully slotted out
I only have like 10 blueprints and cannot be bothered to farm for more
I'm bored of the caravan shit already and don't want to farm dehumidifiers
Duos and trios is just a brain dead slaughter fest
I can pretty much slap anything with a jupiter and 10 grenades to solo it at this point
Dying has zero consequence for me anymore

Give me fun and wacky ways to enjoy the game

So far I've been doing the following:
Maxing out weapons with rank 3 mods and dropping it for people
Roleplaying as a bank teller in stella montis
Luring people into absolutely nowhere with glowsticks
Randomly following people acting as supsicious as possible until they have a breakdown and shoot me
Coordinating fight clubs in the hidden bunker
Helping noobs blast arc
Helping arc blast noobs
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>>548229368
Bigger arc, probes, and couriers are a great source of advanced arc cells, which recycle in stash to two normal cells each
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>>548223269
>Can the harvester be stealthed without killing the queen?
Yes. Most of the lobbies that I've been in that kill the queen complete the harvester first. Go loot the legs while they're busy playing redlight/greenlight with the flames.
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>>548229146
It would cause an outcry but its absolutely what should be done. There should be a MUCH bigger jump from grey, to green, to blue, to purple and orange weapons and gear.

Right now the system falls on its head completely, because theres so little point in actually putting the time and effort in to upgrade. Not only is there a lack of endgame objectives to work towards outside of the basic loop of
>Go topside
>Get loot
>Extract
Outside of Expeditions, and its not even clear what tangible rewards there are from expeditions yet, but theres no incentive to even progress your gear at all.

When the meta is running around with a Light Shield and a Gray Gun, which is cheap as cheaps to pimp out to max power with mods and upgrades, the entire system falls over.

Because loot is worthless.

I feel like the devs took such a 90 degree turn adapting the game from a F2P PvE co-op experience, to a B2P extraction PvPvE experience, that they really focused on polishing the gameplay loop so that the actual gameplay is fun, which I think they succeeded in.

The problem is they forgot to actually balance the game's progression.
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>>548229368
Just buy shield chargers bro
there is zero reason to craft anything you can just buy from a trader
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>>548223506
FWIW, getting the jupiter/equalizer BPs is easier than getting the queen reactors. Sometimes you get rounds where nobody even interacts with the harvester and you can just do the puzzle solo.
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>>548229146
Literally just copy Marathon. You can only freekit if you're to poor to run anything else.

If a freekit manages to down a geared player he can't circumvent the risk/reward loop until he commits and loses his own gear
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Besides Stella Montis, what's the killiest map in your experience?
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>>548229851
Spaceport and Buried City are particularly KOS PvP heavy in my experience.
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>>548229851
Depends on conditon.
Night/EMS: Buried City
Matriarch: Dam
Normal: Spaceport
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>>548229695
>>548229146
Go play Tarkov.
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>>548225782
>i mean that's another design thing that should push you away from defaulting to pvp but free loadout players just... do not care at all
I'm posting it again.

>go semi-nude into stella with hairpin
>spawn at seed vault.
>Fuckit, I'm going to loot all the seeds. It's like an exotic weapon part's worth of seeds
>find toro while I'm there.
>start moving the the extraction point next door
>find a player who wants to extract but is pinned down by a shredder
>explode it with field crafted impacts
>the bro and I move to extract
>a shifty as fuck looking FREENIGGER appears
>attempt diplomacy by greeting him and welcoming him to extract with us
>this greeting alerts Bro to the freenigger's presence
>it is 2v1, we have the high ground, and what element of surprise that he might have had is banished like the morning mist by the sun's light
>the freenigger still chooses VIOLENCE
>he gets put down like the dog he is.
>suddenly his mic works, and the most repulse manchild spic voice gloats about his freekit
>I let the bro have the loot. He must have had a lot since it took him a while to finish looting.
I am no longer amused by freniggers. Freekits need a massive nerf. They don't need grenades. Hairpins are more than adequate for freekit looting.
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>>548225480
There should really only be two spawn tables, start of match and at 18 minutes.
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Went back to Duckov. What I was looking for was a less scammy and sweaty alternative to Tarkov, what I got was a super casual high TTK THird person shooter where loot doesn't matter at all and there is zero tension because your inventory is just a respawn button with extra steps.
I think its a damn shame but don't believe it will change, theres lots of room for a shooter that doesn't force you to just grind for 5000 hours lmao, but theres no need to go the other extreme and overcasualize it into being pointless.
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>>548225635
>or maybe he was just going to extract too and didn’t trust you, so he killed you.
Whenever I'm like this, I just let the guy extract. If hostile fucks are waiting in ambush, then they're going to jump him. I can then third party the nigger. If nothing eventful happens, then I at least know that the immediate area is probably clear at the moment that I hit the button to call extract again.
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>>548226793
I mean i camped in the area i saw it for like 10 minutes and never saw the blue beam again i just assumed it was killed
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>>548229695
the thing is they have to try and hit this balance with "loot isn't that valuable, so I can afford to risk playing nice with others" and "loot is valuable so picking a fight with everyone I see on sight is a risk." the main beneficiary of free loadouts isn't poor casuals, it's optimizing PVP players who want to see a number go up with zero cost.

gutting freebies is the best way to achieve this that I can think of. at the bare minimum is makes people actually put their loadout together and spend SOME resources instead of going "ok go next ok go next ok go next."

fucking with the stitcher 1 and junk can come after addressing the obvious issue
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>>548214442
If you think this is a high IQ idea you are retarded
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>>548230678
yes
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>>548226132
>If they nerfed the weapons it would heavily hurt regular players on budget kits too.
Not really. Hairpin and some field crafted impacts are more than enough to deal with the random arc that you encounter in the buildings. The freekit players will just be bad at ganking players, and that's a good thing.

>but the freenigger wants to go toe to toe with players in the control tower or other high loot zone
then he can stop being a freenigger and build a custom kit.
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>>548214442
how do u determine the context of those raider kills reliably. people already are easily tricked into thinking someone is the aggressor even if they're the defender
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It really does feel like they accidentally over-corrected on the casualization of gear because everything about the game points to you needing gear when you first come into it but after like 20 hours you realize it's all pretty pointless.
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whats the smartest way to go around donating medical stuff? im not swimming on bandages or arc cells
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>>548230569
what an idiot. he could have at least waited until one of you was on the console before throwing his nade. what goes through the mind of such a person
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>>548226776
It would also help if stack sizes in the stash were larger than in inventory. For example, light ammo stacks to 100 in inventory but 1000 in stash.
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>>548231129
convert materials into green kits
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like the most important thing to me is that the game stays a story generator where people have interesting social encounters mixed in with PVP

if it becomes pure carebear pve I don't want to play it. if it becomes rust or tarkov where anarchy just means you're playing a shitty slow paced deathmatch with looting in-between I don't want to play it. social sandbox encounters are the unique appeal of this genre that isn't just better achieved by other genres, that's then thing I need preserved
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>>548231129
buy the heavy and medium shields every day and sell them
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>>548231289
People aren't ready for that. Because the moment you say factions and features people get all scared that it'll change too much.
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>>548231201
God please
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>>548230678
>>548230960
What is the reason to have any spawns other than at the start of the match? I'm not kidding.
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>>548231289
That aspect is definitely the most unique thing about the game imo. I think if they want to try and preserve that PVP needs to be more of a choice instead of a zero risk default when you see a guy and he hasn't seen you.
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>>548160879
This bitch is a fucking RAT
she was trying to teach her new friend to showstopper and kill people calling in the elevator
what a literal subhuman
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>>548231414
>and sell them
I meant give them to the expedition of course
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>>548231482
>What is the reason to have any spawns other than at the start of the match? I'm not kidding.
There is honestly no good reason. Its a shit hole all this spawning until 15 minutes of a match.
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>>548231482
Late spawns in other extraction shooters are strictly for the SCAVs to come in and pick at the remains of the map because usually they are big enough that the initial PMC players cannot hit every spot. I don't know why they didn't just copy this shit verbatim..
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>>548231568
asian server is no mercy
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>>548229146
>The only way to make the free kits balanced would be to make it so that it takes like 3 mags of a base level stitcher, ferro, or kettle to kill someone.
Or, get this, COMPLETELY FUCKING REMOVE THE STITCHER/FERRO/KETTLE FROM THE FREEKIT SPAWN POOLS.

They can have the rattler and hairpin. Those are enough for welfare fucking runs. You do not deserve to be competitive against other players if you are on fucking welfare.
>but the big mean gear chads will slaughter freekits in a head to head fight
So don't fight the geared players. Avoid contact or be friendly. The gear chads aren't looting random apartment #3892. They're rushing control tower/security rooms/etc.

The stitcher/kettle/ferro all probably still need some nerfs, but taking them out of the hands of rabid murderhobos with nothing to lose would be extremely healthy for the game.
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>>548228528
>>548227664
im going to bring 2 into every round from now on
>meet a lad again
>have a chat
>hear flare
>a guy just got friendly betray-ratted
>pick up the guy
>rat shoots him again
>completely fill the rat with holes
>not cool bro
>he erupts into insults on mic,wtf its a pvp game, get cancer and die etc
>teabag him
>it was a freekit too
couldnt pick up the guy again, we had a sad moment
bro was decently kitted too

>>548231568
didnt she flee to the us servers after being unable to handle the asia heat?
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>>548231267
>>548231414
tyty
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Endgame gear is a joke. I can kill any player character as effectively with an unupgraded stitcher, or even just with an extended mag mod, as I can with a Bobcat or any other end-game weapon. I can kill Arc with a Ferro or Anvil as effectively as I can with a Hullcracker or any other legendary weapon. There's no point in collecting mats, there's no point in PvE after I've gotten my workbenches upgraded. This game's falloff is going to be unbelievable.
Embark needs to add endgame Arc that is impossible to kill within 30 minutes even as a trio; you'd need a lobby to focus fire the Arc to even have a chance of taking it down. Those background enormous Arc need to come into the map and immediately kill everyone that's not in some sort of cover. The game lore is that Arc are unbelievably difficult to kill, but the gameplay is the polar opposite; every single arc minus the matriarch/queen can be dispatched with a couple of wolfpacks, and even the matriarch/queen are simple Shoot until invuln stage, take cover while they fire, repeat bosses. There's no strategy, there's barely any teamwork, and there's absolutely no reason to go out of my way to kill them unless I want the one blueprint from the matriarch that I can't get otherwise.
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>>548231568
>This bitch is a fucking RAT
ogey
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>>548231703
And it would be so easy to do this in a weekly patch instead of making us wait months for a fix
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>>548231528
the thought has crossed my mind before.
like darkwraiths in souls games were great at generating stories- and that was a choice. it was something you did for fun, and it works well.

like arc is good about that to an extent, my biggest problem right now is that free loadouts allow you to mindlessly gank as much as you want and face absolutely zero potential consequences. a lot of stuff is tuned to make actively seeking PVP be something suboptimal, but not facing a gear cost nullifies all of that
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>>548231775
desu during the betas people were saying that the rocketeer was busted and NEED to be nerfed

if you've been a member of ANY pve live service community in the last 5 years you'll notice that people get mad as FUCK if PVE enemies can reliably kill them or if they're difficult/frustrating to handle. I agree that ARC need to be significantly tougher than they currently are, or at least have tough new variants introduced- but I get why they might err on the side of caution
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>>548231775
Thank you for saying the same old shit that has been repeated in these threads ad naseum for the past two weeks.
Just call this general
>NEET faggots cry about the same old shit over and over and over while still playing the game and still constantly posting in the general.
Shut the fuck up already.
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>>548231727
It reminds me of an episode of Kino's Journey about a town who has no laws. One traveler looks forward to going there and being allowed to be as evil as he wants, gaking what he wants. Then he's completely surprised when all the polite citizenry gang up and kill him when he shows the slightest aggression to the first person he sees. Cooperation is just as bloody a strategy as solo hunting, you shouldnt be surprised by this but retards are.
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>>548232093
beta testers are some of the dumbest niggers on the planet
>>548232168
kill yourself
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>>548228804
Based
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>>548231727
there are people really lacking in imagination who genuinely seem to struggle to conceive of why you would play this game if not to gun down every single person you see even though there's no reward for doing so other than "getting their loot" which might not even be something you need

like "bro teams are ruining the sanctity of solo pvp" what the fuck are you talking about what part of this game did you look at expecting an undiluted competitive environment
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>>548232270
Nice retort faggot.
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>>548231775
Arc units need shields so you can't just alpha strike everything and have shield damage affected by ammo type.

Light would do very little and Heavy would be most effective, this would give shit like the Bettina an actual use
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>>548231182
Like I said, it sounded like some manchild spic. This isn't even unusual in game though. Most of the naked violence in this game comes from freekits. The per-capita memes write themselves with how the welfare players are the most violent. I understand players having itchy trigger fingers near high-loot zones, but I swear 80% of the aggressors just in the middle of bumfuck nowhere are freeniggers. Nothing of value would be lost if freekit weapons were cut back to the rattler and hairpin. Both are more than enough for dealing with the assorted arc that patrol buildings.
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>>548228991
I do this because i'm pragmatically KOS, not because i enjoy it.
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Look the bottom line is Embark has proven they have zero interest in actually balancing anything with these little weekly patches they're putting out. The real test is going to be what they do in December. Until then we might as well stop whining about it.
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>>548232765
they tried rapid fire weekly patches with the finals and the reactionary approach to balance didn't help too much imo
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>>548229984
We're talking about a mixed race civilization that can't even recreate a goddamn spring, lead by an Indian lesbian that put no protocols in place to stop people killing each other when repopulation is a serious concern.
The swedish mind pays none to the harshness of reality.
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>no streamers are even playing this game anymore

jeez that was quick, flavor of the week sort of game I guess
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>>548158801
A great evil lurks in the depths of the human soul. You just had a glance of it.
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>>548232941
38k viewers on pekora's stream last night thoug?
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>>548232854
man it seems like we have another swedish dev with a history of doing stupid shit and never being confronted for it
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>>548232941
the self-fulfilling prophecy of game death on a perfectly fine game... begins...
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Errrm guys okay so I have this crazy idea I think it'll fix the game for everyone okay it has never been mentioned here before
>buff rarer weapons/shields
>work on the ttk
>nerf freekits
>make the arcs stronger
Okay this will fix everything I know it hasn't been mentioned ever in any of these threads so you're welcome now please excuse me my mom just went to the store so I'm gonna go goon to loli porn before she gets back and starts yelling at me.
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>>548233046
>on a perfectly fine game.
>perfectly fine
No
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>>548233013
the finals is pretty good though
desu i take dev hate with a massive grain of salt nowadays because it feels like it happens with every live service game unless they have a sweatshop-tier update schedule. finals died because it's a weirdo niche game that appeals to arena shooter fans. this game will probably do better but fall off as people realize that it's not meant to cater to them, both pve carebears and pvp only tdm fans
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE MUSHROOMS
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>>548233215
You're more gullible than a guppy
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>>548233329
i check the trench on spaceport and usually find like one or two clusters but i don't think that's optimal

i hear they grow on pipes
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>>548232093
I think the arc are largely threatening enough when aggroed. The problem is that there are too few of them and it's too easy to deal with them piecemeal.

Imagine for example the bastion. It's pretty easy to just stay in cover to poke it to death. Now imagine us playing ARC in the good timeline:
>you're behind a shipping container poking a bastion no big deal
>Suddenly you hear *BWROOOOOOOOOO!!*
>the leapers, plural, KNOW
>they're coming

Fighting the arc would be a lot deadlier if fighting one would ring the dinner bell and get others to collaborate against you.
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I trash the game for the same things that everyone else ITT does, but I think we all like it and want it to make it.
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>>548233215
stfu tranny apologist
it a concord tier game with concord tier visuals and characters
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>>548232093
I mean that's basically any PVE game if we're being honest, people don't want to actually be challenged they want to be able to gloat that they can do X content.
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>at McDonald's getting some grub
>locked into my Arc Raiders mindset
>hello
>how's it going, friendly?
>I don't want trouble but I'll defend myself if I have to
>extract with my food with no trouble
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>>548233591
it's one of the only fresh fpses in the past ten years. clown timeline that slopfield 6 made millions and finals just did pretty well
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>spawn @21mins in stellar night
>talk to a few guys, we know the map is empty and we fuck arround, kill some arc
>about to extract
>i laugh manically to myself
>"i have one last surprise for you"
>aim, throw
>some people laughed,some people cried
it was a red glowsitck
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>>548233215
>finals died because it's a weirdo niche game
Nah, it died because the devs insisted on it being built around 3v3v3, then poured developers and money from it into ark and put the finals on permanent maintenance mode with really spread content updates.
Embark have a stupid obsession with uncontrolled third partying being an intended mechanic.
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>>548233723
FPSes have never been good, not since normgroids got their hands on it and the casual voice banter died off
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All these half baked "here's the deal" takes itt, blanketing everything...
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>>548233865
Based
Im gona do that. Its one of the few things I have the bp for.
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>>548218459
Anon, just keep providing welfare until the 0.0001% you get the white nationalist server that's handing out aphelion BP to the volk.
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>>548232168
No he's absolutely right though, and you can see this in real time by how streamers have straight up stopped playing this shit because there's literally no point anymore for them lol

Essentially you're getting less new players (hype has died down, streamers aren't streaming it anymore), regular players are getting "Pvp" fatigue (this is increased by gear being pointless in pvp for the most part, so you can very easily get ratted by free kits), and players that are most dedicated are giving up because "endgame" is a joke.
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>>548232093
>people get mad as FUCK if PVE enemies can reliably kill them
HD2niggers are a plague on the world
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>>548233968
>blanketing
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>>548232941
Maybe the mindless pvp will calm down. I like taking my time and the dope social encounters. Getting shot in the back isnt fun to me desu
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>>548234127
*MMOniggers are a plague on this world
>t. MMOnigger
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>>548233329
Found some on trees in the swamp on Dam, and in the biodomes in the watery pits
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>second cheat wave happening
The beatings will continue until time to ban improves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpX5OvjsYvI
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>>548233878
the design philosophy of the finals was encouraging constant improvisation and having four teams on the field plays into that. playing around the positioning of 2-3 independent groups could be fun and chaotic as fuck, I would just never play that shit competitively for money.
shit the reason competitive players wanted it to be 2 teams was to make it consistent when being consistent was the opposite of the game's goal
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>>548234331
Buy an ad faggot
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>>548233562
This. The game has enough good credit with the community I think the majority of people complaining are complaining due to frustration and wanting the game to be better and to live, not because they want it to fail
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>>548234112
Also I think the toxic attitude of the community when you critique the game ("IT'S FINE!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU JUST SUCK GIT GOOD! GAME IS PERFECT IN EVERY WAY, I'M TIRED OF HEARING YOUR CRITIQUE (THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE) SO JUST IGNORE IT")

Meanwhile the game is dying because everyone sees these really obvious faults with the game but a small minority of reddit freaks would get upset if you fixed them. I dunno, seems like a small vocal minority will go down with the ship while everyone else yawns and moves on
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>>548234426
Yep exactly
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>>548233665
I walked to tesco the other day after being signed off work for sickness for the week and I swear to god I could hear hornets. I played too much
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>>548234426
People that complain about the game want it to get better generally, if they were done with the game they'd just stop playing.
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>>548234331
fucking pvp brainrot niggers
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>>548234373
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>Peanut is live
Oh thank god
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>>548234898
i stopped playing and moderately post my ideas to fix it and discuss them because i have nothing else to do and enjoy that, the game doesnt have anything to get me back right now
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>>548235114
/ourfoodgroup/
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>>548234331
>jew promises something in exchange for something else
>breaks the promise immediately
There's something about Shroud's disgusting jew rat face that pisses me off to no end, I'm actually on the cheaters' side just because I hate that faggot.
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>>548235114
He's drinking tequila. He might drop the gamer word TONIGHT.
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Post topside raiden themes

https://youtu.be/SbYa7NBYyRc
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Retarded kotniggers shitting up my thread..
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>>548235524
I'd subscribe if he did
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>>548235390
Oh yeah, i posted him and i despise him but he's publicizing the issue that has ruined every single extraction shooter to date.
He's also blatantly cheated himself at very specific points of his career to boost his clout - CSS in his early days, PUBG not long post-release when softaim was just hitting the scene and no one knew about it(all of his cheating vods are now deleted and scoured from yt), and there were a few insanely suspect warzone clips - But if i trust him on anything, it's calling cheats when he sees it.
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>>548235582
I blast Hybrid Theory every time I hit the surface nigga, miss me with that Fallout boomer shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2WkCudwfY&list=RD3t2WkCudwfY&start_radio=1
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>>548235582
I wish I could play and listen to music. I need to be completely locked in. Though thats a good choice if I ever decide to play something in voip. I saw a vid of a guy playing Sinatra once
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I almost died to my stupidity
a wasp stunned me and a burner lit me up as I called the extract
I found two raider hatch keys in the hospital too...
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>>548234293
il take a cluster rather than 1 per map on dam thx bros
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Do people actually do trios queen/matriarch? That's just asking for it.
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>Wake up
>"Today is a nice day. Surely I'll find a wolfpack bp this time"
>Start game
>Enter Ruined City
>Late spawn
>Every a few houses
>All cabinets are already loot
>Fight a kos faggot
>Got nothing out of it because he's a free kit
>Every a few houses
>All cabinets are already loot
>Fight a kos faggot
>Got nothing out of it because he's a free kit
>Every a few houses
>All cabinets are already loot
>Fight a kos faggot
>Got nothing out of it because he's a free kit
>Wasted 15 minutes of my life getting nothing
>Fuck this lets extract
>Had to fight another free kit extract camping faggot to get out
>Returned to Sepienza
>Already tired of the game
>Close game and play something else
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>>548235993
Wasps don't stun you fucking retard.
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>>548236213
Oh Sorry Mister Arc, I got your fucking pronouns wrong
Kill yourself
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>Peanut calls summit1g a silly nigger
>this entire general would suddenly praise him
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>>548236335
He already got banned for calling a sniper a faggot
That count in my book
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>>548236335
THATS /OURGUY/
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>>548236473
Why do people hate that word when it is so damn fun? The nigger word doesn't roll off the tongue half as beautifully as a nice good old "FAGGOT!"
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>>548236207
>Returned to Sepienza
Based
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>>548236434
wow it's fucking nothing
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>>548236710
What am I looking at
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>>548236710
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>>548236801
roasted nuts
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>>548236710
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since you're such a peanut lover, how do you set up a stream like that where you are a peanut? what's the tech explain
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NOOO YOU CANT TURN THIS INTO /NUT/ GENERAL THIS IS FOR A PLACE WHERE I CAN BITCH ABOUT THE GAME"S DESIGN CHOICES THAT THE DEVS WILL NEVER CONSIDER OR TELL STUPID GREENTEXTS THAT NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT NOOOO STOP THAT NUT
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>>548233503
They couldn't code that in, so they added freekits. Now niggers do that for free.
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>>548237150
It was arcane tech until someone posted a guide to it.
If you're going to do it, you'd better have an original twist to it and actually be entertaining enough to be worth watching.
There's already a handful of LE EBIN PICKLE RICKS out there.
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>>548235582
>>548235783
for me its amon amarth
https://youtu.be/9wo6lNn4KVE
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>>548237426
yeah im pretty good at it, i even got an accent, whats the guide?
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erm im watching this nut guy and he kinda sucks
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>big boss takes multiple people to kill it
>drops multiple of a rare item
>item is radioactive or some shit and your shield can only protect you if you only have 1 in your inventory and if you pick up any more of the item then you start taking DOT
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>>548237505
It's on youtube and i've forgotten the poster, but it had a how-to title you'd find in a search pretty easy.
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>>548237505
>got an accent
Already lost. Peanut is a straight white male. Therefore /ourguy/.
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>>548172086
Why the fuck would i EVER surrender and let you have my shit? I'm going to make it as hard as possible for you. You DO NOT deserve my stuff.
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anyone got medium gun parts BP to trade?
I've got Torrente/Venator BPs
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>>548237814
>You DO NOT deserve my stuff.
Holy seethe.
You don't deserve your stuff either, until you've extracted with it.
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>>548237483
I saw Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth and Gojira at a tiny venue in 2006 and it's kind of crazy how the headliner (CoB) faded into irrelevancy while the other two are still popular today.

Seeing Gojira opening for the olympic ceremony and remembering that me and my friends were like, 3 of the 5 people in the pit for their set is kinda crazy in retrospect.
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>>548237727
why would i directly compete with a 40k viewer andy?
>>548237689
found it, its a snapchat filter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KEpribDBI4
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>>548237814
>>548238130
>Video game
>"deserve"
You guys deserve to get forced to have a job, shower and touch grass
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Talk me out of getting the astronaut outfit before it rotates out
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>>548238273
what do you mean "rotates out"
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>>548238273
>being this retarded unironically
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>>548238130
Answer the question. Why should i surrender and let you have my stuff instead of making you work for it?
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>>548238340
Store refreshes. New outfit weekly. It'll rotate out. Open a book
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>>548238367
No one is going to rescue you. You've already lost the fight. Go on and start your next raid quicker. You aren't actually making it any more difficult for me to loot your corpse.
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>set my mine up below myself on space port tower
>someone zips up
>it goes off
>it knocks me off too even though I'm on the roof
>conveniently a guy third guy is there ready to knock us both out
wew, bullshit but kind of funny
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>>548237935
how do i trade for le torrente
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>>548238367
Nothing. If you're salty and want to make it harder or try to escape that's up to you.
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>>548238516
Not him but I strongly believe I have a moral imperative to park myself next to a boss bot if I get third partied or cheated on.
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apparently cheats in this game are super simple and readily available too fucking kek. What a disaster
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>>548239171
i would be more surprised if you told me about a game where cheating was entirely impossible
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>>548238639
We queue up, put the BPs in our ass, duo queue, drop them, grab the other one, die/leave

Carnival#0045 is my ID
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>>548238214
alexi is dead bro :( I saw them in 2006 as well but it was a massive concert. "Trashed, Lost & Strungout" will always be a banger
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whats stopping me from griefing with free loadouts on stella
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>>548239171
Same engine as the finals, which has rampant softaim cheaters. combine that with the playtests and you've got day 2 cheats.
Usually there's a month's grace before it happens, wasn't the case here.
The only solution is time to ban being low enough that no one can make money off servicing.
Time to ban is so high right now unless you're a streamer reporting that things will get real bad, real soon.
EAC is also a massive scam that is so bad at what they do it's laughable. Every game that's paid them tens of millions has become a chinese invasion simulator where everyone is cattle for a career RMT cheater to farm for a month before he buys another account and does the same thing all over again.
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>>548240153
Venator KOSs
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>>548240163
Why cheat in video games to begin with though?
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>>548239375
damn I never realized how bloodthirsty people are in duo queue +rep
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>>548239614
That shit was funny. I stood on top of the exfil unarmed just staring at them shooting us and they kept going
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>>548240292
Casual cheaters are a phenomenon among every race of people, the reasons for it are always varied and usually correlated with low iq or mental issues if you're not 13 years old.
The reason for career cheating is pretty obvious when we're talking about thirdies, chinks and russians.
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defib bp would probably be worth alot more if they didnt just sell infinite of them in the store
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>>548238490
>he doesn't know
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>>548240479
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they should never make another map like stella
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>>548238490
I would just politely correct you but you are being a faggot, so instead I'll just call you a retard. You are retarded and the outfits will always be available for purchase
>b-but muh store rotation
Install The Finals to see how Embark handles their microtransactions. Its free.
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Is there a way to get Bombadier cells without killing them? The PvP is rampant around them.
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>>548241458
Watch them, and follow the people who loot them. Then kill one of those people
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>>548241458
not afaik, just bring 3 or 4 wolfpacks and kill it asap, grab the cores and keister them
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Is there a way to get Queen reactors without killing them? The PvP is rampant around them.
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>>548241578
>hurr i am retarded
Rocketer parts can be gotten without killing any of them faggot
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Is there a way to get Matriarch reactors without killing them? The PvP is rampant around them.
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GOTTEM
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>guy camping a quest spot
Somehow this is gayer than exit camping.
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>>548242203
Because there's no guarantee someone will come to do the quest. Meaning they're purposely gimping their engagement chance in the hope that the kill will be easier.
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>>548240292
>Why cheat in video games to begin with though?
Retarded question. Obviously the primary answer is "money," the secondary answer is "because you can get away with it."

Yes it's mostly retards/teenagers cheating. Does it matter who cheats? No. The only thing that matters is how easy it is to cheat/how many players are cheating, and after reading >>548240163 my guess is these Swedes don't know how to combat it properly and it's going to get out of hand fast (you know it already is getting bad when streamers are running into it aka players aren't even hiding it and are flaunting it)
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>>548242294
Yeah, it's super gay.
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yeah the peanut guy is funny but can he beat THIS fucking content?: https://youtu.be/fH3KVDH7sZ0?si=pmUEa1_wmncYXqXf&t=146
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is there a point to exp after level 75
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>>548242390
Buy an ad faggot
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why did this succeed but concord didnt? both games have dogshit DEI designs
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>>548242448
There's no fat women for a start
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>>548242448
PvE is good in Arc
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>>548242448
I can make a white man in this game.
In Concord the only white guy was canonically gay, the rest of the cast were transpoc.
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>>548242604
>>548242604
>>548242604
new raid
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>>548242448
we got vtubers to play
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>>548240524
I got two BPs in the same run earlier
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>>548241458
>Is there a way to get Bombadier cells

This was the hardest part of the game so far for me. There's no simple way to get them if you play solo. Spam Buried City/Blue Gate and get lucky with spawns and friendly lobbies. Bring lots of wolfpacks/grenades/hatch keys (yes, you will sometimes get ratted and lose a fully geared loadout)

Most often I would have to wait until there was like 5 minutes left in the map and I was hopefully the only one left fighting, then take it down solo and stuff the Bombardier cells in my asshole as I died to the map exploding
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>>548242448
One is original



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