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>find lightbulbs in like every other single container, always sell them because I literally find so many>get to the expedition section where I need 5 lightbulbs>haven't found a single one in 7 gamesWhy
>>548242604dead game
>>548242823make goop number 1 for next threadGOOP GOOP GOOP
What's a goopa to do
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>>548242875in the beginning you were a noob looting everything including the weirder spots that drop lightbulbs, now you learned to go for the fast opening drawers and similar containers
praise be surveyor hunting, can probably trade this for something solid
>>548242875You stopped breaching car hoods 30 hours ago.
Arc are such a non-issue that I just run naked. If I find good stuff (which is only really BPs, or 1 type of item) I stuff it in my ass pocket. Players are basically irrelevant, and I negate any risk by not bringing stuff. They are going to need to step up Arc to make them a continuous threat, especially inside buildings.
>>548243249i think theres a guaranteed 1 in the 2nd highest floor of the Blue Gate comms tower it has red lockers and i feel like everytime i open them i get a lightbulb
I got "Effortless Roll" 5/5 without realizing that it literally doesn't do anything Is "Heroic Leap" equally as useless? I dodge roll a lot, like out of nervousness in fights. Especially if I'm shot at first. Theoretically being able to sprint dodge roll further and using less stamina doing it should be really helpful for me but I dunno because the devs are apparently fucking retarded
i am going to pair these with a couple dozen snitch scanners and make an extract site impossible to access
>>548243512Do it on the last extract site when the match is soon to end
>>548243512You can only summon 1 group now
>>548243586oh, didn't know they changed that. in that case, i'll get a full inventory of the lure grenades and kite all the arc on the map to a single area.
>friendlies at train extract on buried city get jumped by a third party>my buddy and I rush to put them down and let the friendlies escapeWelcome home Bully Hunters....
>>548243697You can do the same thing with a kettle, just shoot at them, especially if this is on Blue because its easy to see all the Arc from any of the higher spots on the map
Plink arc with the hairpin so they search for a player
Things they NEED to add:>ability to field-craft using items inside the containerYou can already craft while looting, but you can only use items in your "backpack" so you have to needlessly juggle items back and forth if you say, find enough fabric to craft a bandage but your inventory is full. It gets worse if it's one of those containers you can only remove items from since you can't directly drop items from it, so you have to drop an item from your bag, place the material into your bag, craft the item you want, then exit and pick up your dropped item from the ground.>an icon to indicate you already have an item in your backpack, but it's less than a full stackSo you can click it to loot without worrying if it'll take up your last inventory slot or having to check first.>search function in stashSelf-explanatory.>ability to mark items as "sell on return" or "recycle on return" and have them automatically do that when you return to SperanzaYou shouldn't have to scroll through your whole inventory to find the accordion you looted just so you can sell it, or some other item that you decided you don't want to keep any of because you don't like whatever it crafts into.>ability to sell/recycle directly from your backpack on returning to SperanzaSame as above.>Alternate crafting recipes/nested crafting / whatever you wanna call itYou can field-craft a herbal bandage with 14 fabric and the plant, in base you can only craft a herbal bandage with a durable cloth and the plant, but you can refine 14 fabric into 1 durable cloth, Let me skip that step in my base and just craft 14 fabric into the bandage without needing to go to a different bench.>ability to craft items straight from loadout/stashIf you have 1 of something craftable in a stack, you should be able to just right-click it and say "craft 3" or however many and get them added right to it.
Im guessing the recent drop in match quality is because all the EU faggots are VPN'ing over the NA. The number of micless people or non-americans has increased drastically in the past week or so
>>548244306you dont need a vpn or anything to switch servers you can just do so from the settings ingame
is there a reason for exp past 75?what are you supposed to do now, just increase my stash value?
>>548244306That or people are coming to the foretold conclusion that this game has no endgame beside going on a murder spree on freekit to pass time
>>548244542pull out the freekit and start chasing raider flares to kos, make the devs realize what needs to change, until you inevitably get bored after 10 hours of doing this and quit booting up the game just to bitch here and post lengthy posts about how to save the game.
>>548241458>Is there a way to get Bombadier cells without killing them? The PvP is rampant around them.Just kill them. Go to bluegate. Run up into the hills near the northeast of the map. Look for the spotter drones to find them. Blow them up and then shove the cells into your anus as quickly as possible. I used deadline mines for my kills:>kill assorted wasps that are nearby>use cloak to get behind and near the bombard>toss lure grenade away from me to get the thing's attention>plant deadline mine on/near it>run out of the blast zone, potentially re-engaging cloakIf you skip the lure grenade part, it will probably do the leaper's AOE attack to fuck with your attempt to mine it. Also, don't bother cloaking if it starts shelling you with its cannon. You need to get into hard cover ASAP. It still bombards your last known location. If you get caught in the blast, that staggers you and interrupts the cloak, which updates your location. Wash rinse repeat.Alternatively I've read that ~6 or 7 detonator grenades will kill it. Either way, keep your grenades or deadlines stuffed within your anus until you're ready to strike. If you get ganked before attacking, then it's no big deal. You should hopefully be able to pocket the cells within your anus before any gankers get you after the kill. consider a smoke grenade to help buy you a few more seconds to find cells. But generally I've avoided being ganked in those hills. I think a faggot only jumped me one time, and that was after I spent forever chasing a surveyor around. Normally the kosniggers are busy fighting over the loot within the bunker complex. Do your mission in a day mission while a night/EMS/queen/matriarch event is going on if you want some extra security. KOSniggers get drawn to those like flies on shit, and they're less likely to fuck with your bombard kill if they're busy ganking people by the queen.
>>548244306PvEniggers are so retarded they think you need a VPN to queue on NA.
>>548245000wtf why u posting my facebook shit bruh???
Things they NEED to add:>ability to field-craft using items inside the containerYou can already craft while looting, but you can only use items in your "backpack" so you have to needlessly juggle items back and forth if you say, find enough fabric to craft a bandage but your inventory is full. It gets worse if it's one of those containers you can only remove items from since you can't directly drop items from it, so you have to drop an item from your bag, place the material into your bag, craft the item you want, then exit and pick up your dropped item from the ground.>an icon to indicate you already have an item in your backpack, but it's less than a full stackSo you can click it to loot without worrying if it'll take up your last inventory slot or having to check first.>search function in stashSelf-explanatory.>ability to mark items as "sell on return" or "recycle on return" and have them automatically do that when you return to SperanzaYou shouldn't have to scroll through your whole inventory to find the accordion you looted just so you can sell it.>ability to sell/recycle directly from your backpack on returning to SperanzaIf I know I don't want it, I shouldn't have to dump it into my stash before getting rid of it.>Alternate crafting recipes / nested crafting / whatever you wanna call itYou can field-craft a herbal bandage with 14 fabric and the plant, in base you can only craft a herbal bandage with a durable cloth and the plant, but you can refine 14 fabric into 1 durable cloth, Let me skip that step in my base and just craft 14 fabric into the bandage without needing to go to a different bench.
How is peanuts playing Harvester Blue Gate if the event isnt up on NA?
another fantastic stella montis run
>night raid stella duos>sneak into security >sneak up to the top floor>magdump a dude who didn't notice me and down him while his buddy is across the bridge>suddenly a third party team comes in and downs me as I get caught on the stairsBro those stairs are a fucking death sentence.
i swear there's a low ticking and droning like that of raider caches in the ambient sounds in the game
>>548245782It literally is, I just got a Jupiter bp from a free loadout run.
>>548245997i know you joke but people really be tryin to brag about bringing shit back that aint rare blueprints is realy funny
>>548245997Bravo good sir!
>>548246058pretty sure if you have a full/near full backpack there's a click clack from your backpack that sounds extremely similar. the oscillating whir does sound like an ambient thing too
>>548246302>shoves bp up anuswoaw rly gud loot bro
>>548246353>If your backpack contains desirable loot it becomes a raider cache
>>548246386even then its not a big deal
I feel bad for anyone getting this game late and trying to do boss runs. Complete nigger territory in every single lobby now.
im getting aped by a bunch of bungulators every solo lobby this is so disgusting
>>548245997I collect freekit augments like Natives collected scalps.
every lobby is a kos lobby now, the peace time is over
>>548245782I just checked and its up now
>>548246708Absolutely based
>>548246903you wouldn't have happened to kill someone before noticing this, have you?
I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me.
thats it im kosing everyone at the harvester
>>548246539There was a golden hour where people didn't know the orb was the best loot spot and you could get out safe, now you're fucked the moment you touch the balls
>>548248001>Gear up to KOS at harvester>As I am heading there take a blast from a rocket>Get into the building everyone is camping >Random comes up and heals me and shields me before going back to fight the Queen>End up helping them kill it God fucking dammit.
>>548248130You weren't made for bloodshed.
I feel like my account seed is fucked in terms of finding blueprints. I've found fuckall BPs. Even running EMS missions, although half the time it screws me with a late spawn. I just feel like the BP drop rates are insultingly low considering that they expect people to wipe their accounts every few weeks. Fuck sweden.
>got the jupiter and the equalizer BPs>only my gear bench is level 3>some benches are still level 1
<5%>>548248683I'm there with you, same exact experience, it's not like I leave anything in a room unlootedpersonally i'd hope they update, it's probably hard to code, but the blueprint should just be a random blueprint you don't already have, like just turn intoMysterious Blueprintthat gets revealed when you extract and it can cross reference what blueprints you already havebecause getting dupes on this item is ridiculousI've gotten 3 Osprey blueprints, like, really???
>>548248856>legendaries in arc raidersYou're not missing out on anything
>>548248881What I want is a "reverse engineering project". Sacrifice a craftable item to kick off a mini-expedition project. Mechanics are the same as the expedition. Give us a series of shopping lists and then sink some $$$ value of loot into it to finally unlock the BP. I think that it should be easy scale the grind for each recipe to something fair, and it would let players get that one BP that they really really want instead of having to deal with RNG bullshit.
>>548248683If I had to take a totally unsubstantiated guess from my own anecdotal experience; I would guess that on average there's maybe 2 blueprints per map, not including key rooms, on Nights/EMS. Key rooms seem to have a 50/50 or so.I've spawned fresh on EMS and cleared out the entirety of two or three red/yellow zones in one raid and not found a single BP, multiple times. Your highest chance of finding something is key rooms
>>548248683I was kind of pissed, but I'm going to do the expedition and I'd probably be more pissed if I had good blueprints>>548249117something like that would be good, personally the only item I want is the Mk 3 Survival kit that lets you stayed down infinitely, I couldn't care less about anything elseI've now killed every enemy except rocketeer with my trusty Ferro IV, so I've gotten past my brain thinking>you need to have purple stuff to fight big arcs
>>548248903Well I've also got the Osprey and blue chemlight
>>548248683I think they changed it so keyed rooms have more of them, because I used to find a lot more in random places
>>548249117this is such a good idea that it would never ever happen
>>548249516Osprey is... midJust use greys/greens and venator and never bother about anything in your life.
played 5h until 7AM again award
>crossplay off>can't view steam profile of obvious aimbotterinteresting
>>548249516Renegade is a better Osprey since it doesnt fall apart at mid range entirely
arnt these like gigacheap to make
>>548249545Well I keep getting late spawns to all of the night and EMS missions, and all of the good rooms are already looted every time that I go. I swear late spawns should be freenigger shit.
>Throw a smoke to get a quick extraction off>A macroing kettlenigger that was lurking on the other side of it sprints through the smoke and literally into me without making a single noiseit's the little things that manage to make this game fucking unbearable sometimes, if i had heard even a single thud behind me i would have canceled and slaughtered him
>>548250028>throw at queen>zooms off after a rocketeer
>>548249802>block anyone who kills me on sight>blocklist looks like this
>>54825002836 chems, 6 oil, 16 arc metal.Not cheap, not expensive, they are just fine.
>>548250028>kill a surveyor with one or use a trigger grenade on the extended probe and a few heavy rounds>can craft another three with the amount of motion cores if you scrounge for some chems and oilyeah they made the craft better than before
>>548248683They need to just seed a lot of the basic BPs in the quests and leave the high tier shit like Tier II and III mods or purple weapon BPs as random loot.
>>548250187That's an interesting tactic. Does this game prevent matchmaking with blocked players?
>>548250386whats a good way to find and kill surveyors without getting rekt
Okay bored now.
>>548250573kos at harvester when theyre all done
>>548250526i just sit on edges of blue gate at night and "survey" for their blue light and then go hunt it avoiding arc and hoping all the pvpers are in the tunnel depths killing eachother over that one room that drops mk3 augments
>>548250417If they have a system anything similar to Finals, then yes, it does work that way.
>>5482505262 triggers and a heavy
>>548250417Honestly have no idea, it just gives me a little satisfaction and stops me from writing paragraphs on their steam profile if its public
>>548250526>findLook for the blue laser protruding to the sky>killI used a photoelectric cloak + deadline for my first oneYou can also stick a trigger grenade on to the protruding probe that it extends when surveying the area and immediately detonate it when it sticks. This can be a bit hard due to its spotting range but if you have some waist high cover to crouch behind you can easily arc it over and stick it using the trajectory line, this will damage it a lot and you can then finish it with a few heavy shots.
>killed a surveyor for my last core>didn't drop one???
HOW DO I ESCAPE ROCKETEER IT KEEPS AIMING AT ME THROUGH SMOKEI THOUGHT I WAS SAFE IF I SMOKED MY DOWNED TEAM MEMBER BUT NO IT KEPT SHOOTING INTO THE SMOKE AND WE BOTH DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>50 games since my last blue print>finally find two in a locker behind a pink key door>angled grip 2(again)>shock mine(again)I'm getting sick of this RNG...
>>548250887its rare but that can happen sometimes you get like 4 othertimes zero
>>548250887yea its gay its not guaranteed, I guess cause its not purple or something dumb
>>548250905stop playing the game and go on a fucking vacation like all my friends did and left me alone to solo
>>548250959>>548250969Amazing, truly impeccable game design Embark.
>>548251036to be fair, they have a higher chance to drop blueprints
God buried city is the worst map. KOSniggers in every fucking window. It's like fucking stalingrad.
Been naked running for 3 hours havent found a single blueprint bro what is this
>>548251185I swear the only thing that Embark has cared about doing is nerfing drop rates and nerfing PvE gear. Shitty PvP balance? THEY SLEEP.
>>548251092I've never seen one drop a BP.
>>548251121>Buried City Snow Variant>Ferro IV so I can pretend I have a Mosin and take potshots at the GermansComfy....
>New Achievements:>Extract using 100 raider hatch keys>Revive 1000 players>Place a deadline mine on a rocketeer>Run a [high number here] meters>Quests:>Trade weapons with a raider>Get a raider kill without firing a weapon>Infil without anything and extract over 50K in loot>etc etcall we need are more inventive things to do in the game
>>548251297hunting them today i got tagging nade, smoke nade, defib and med mag 3 bps today.
>>548251518WHAT THE FUCK
>>548251297I've killed 5 and gotten 1 blueprint and it wasn't even good
>>548251036ive managed to get a vault off the shells from snapblasting them a couple times so i dunno man
>>548243175What do you need? I'm at work right now, but I have some good stuff if you just wait 4 hours.>survivor mk3>compensator 3>wolfpack>tempest>some other crap thats more common but you might not have
How 2 practess venirtor headsh0ts
>>548243250I think its stupid that pops and fireballs can be one shot for all ammo types. Ticks are the only arc id accept one shots on. Pops should require a half mag of a stitcher or something and be terrifying
>>548252026Dude ticks don't even die to one medium ammo shot. Fireballs only die in one shot to heavy ammo because it goes right through the armor and pops are like two taps center mass for light/medium or 1 tap if you hit their little side things.
>finally start doing my quests again>go to plant missing helmet>interrupted by a fight>kill the freekit nigger>helmet despawned and i cant dig it up againfucking whytime for another spawn across the entire map
found a vulcanus in the dam control roomI had to give it to my chad nigger random who managed to survive getting third and fourth partied and then downed most of them himself
>call in the supply drop>THREE LIL TOROSGYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
>>548251918i already traded it out for a barricade bp to maximum shitpost out of boredom sorry anon i probably wouldve jumped on that survivor mk3 if i was feeling more meta gamey about this game though
>>548251121>God buried city is the worst mapIt's actually not because of the KOSniggers. There's usually a 50% chance Stella Montis is full of KOSniggers but it's still fun because everyone kind of runs around killing each other, it's more honest pvp gameplay Buried City is the worst because the map itself encourages rats sitting in corners, sitting in blind spots on top of stairwells, sitting in little crevices above the southern extract train, etc.The map is designed for the most pathetic rattiest kills, you'll never get a fair shot at a fight because it will be some faggot shooting at you from a little hole in the rat infested wall or throwing grenades out of a little crevice in the ceiling or whatever. Just a dogshit map all around, anti-fun. At night it's 10x worse and the loot is still dogshit. I only play buried city when I have too much shit in my inventory and feel like dying in the quickest, most unskilled, least fun way possible
>>548252610the worst part of buried city is the eye adaptation>pitch black nigger sitting in a shaded corner somewhere you literally cannot see him>the entire map is like thisfucking nightmare
I've reached the true endgameNothing to upgrade, nothing to grind for, nothing to sell, nothing to keep.They should have like another 5 payable stash upgrade tiers that just have insane costs.
>>548252134>>548252026Depends on the gun. Hairpin one-taps them all.
>>548252705why do games do this eye adaption shitI want to turn that shit off, I DONT GIVE A FUCK about eye strain, I want to see shit!
>>548253545>lets make sure both the video game character and player experience copious amounts of eye strain at all times when playingthanks developers very cool and realistic feature i love it
Spaceport is actually the biggest fag map on of the lot, nothing but sniperfags taking potshots at you.
>>548252737Ok but dude, get this. You can VOLUNTARILY permanently delete all that work you've done to get those things, and you can start over and just do all that burdensome stuff AGAIN! Isn't that awesome? Here's a few inventory spots and a weird gay looking skin for your trouble. Enjoy
>>548252705for me its spaceport>trying to shoot out of a buiklding>so fucking bright I can't see shit unless I get close to the windows
>>548253924possibly one of the worst maps in the game, i've had two separate duo lobbies where two duos are obviously on discord while sniping from the towers since we pissed them off and had both duos simultaneously push and pincer usi'm just not going to be playing this piece of shit map again unless i have to
I FUCKING HATE SPACEPORT
whatever i bought it
dis gay ass nigga camping here the whole 30 minutes of the map lmaooo
>spaceport scarce loot, spread thin, infinite arcs rape the skies >buried city bursting with loot, highly condensed, many ways to hide from arc
Spawning at the bottom of spaceport is basically just punishment
Maps Power Ranking:1. Dam2. Blue Gate3. Stella Montis...9001. Spaceport,,,9000000000000000001. Buried City
>>548254584This list was fact checked by true speranzan patriots.
>>548254529>buried city >bursting with lootNOTHING DROPS FOR ME.>hit the breach rooms they said>those parkour rooms they said>loot the locked pharmacies they said>the space port floor>the parking garage level>have a burletta>here's a sanitized bandage>want some processors?
>>548254529>buried city>bursting with loot
>>548254720I found a Tempest BP there a few hours ago.
>>548254770i kneel
Someone should make a key tier listAnd make sure to put town hall in D or F
Yeah this game has no chance of surviving.The only real thing left to do is trials which is 30 minutes of effort that can be erased by extract campers.Theres going to be documentaries about how terrible this game is designed from the bottom up
>>548254963wait i just bought it should i refund
>>548254963>no chance of survivingidk bwo the chart looks fairly consistent still..
>>548255052The first few weeks were great because people didnt know how badly the systems were all designed, and everyone was more friendly.Honeymoon period is over. Id refund unless you dont care at all about balance or absolutely anything and just want to fuck around on proximity chat hoping for interactions that arent dogshit
>>548255131Because every retard and their mother is claiming its GOTY during its honeymoon phase.The game is still being discovered by new people and then ull have the holiday buyers and whatnot.Game will be dead and buried by february though
>>548251185Uhhhh just found barricade kit and Snap hook BP + townhall key in one run after this post. Electromagnetic runs is the play bros
>>548255306It'll be fine, extraction shooters as a real genre aren't really a thing on console, so even if the PC playerbase dies a horrible death the console players will stay even if only because of the lack of extraction shooters on their platforms, really their only console competition is Hunt:Showdown and I guess you can maybe stretch to reach the PvP areas in Divison aswell.
So when you guys do key runs do you just tunnel the room and bounce or do you linger to hit up other spots?
>>548255052Refund and buy Duckov.Singleplayer top-down offline extraction shooter with in-built mod support. It plays like Darkwood but with all the horror replaced by quirks and quacks
>>548255397>ElectromagneticThere is no reason to run for BPs unless its an event. Whatever the spawns for BPs are, they're 2x or more on events.
>>548255646I know, I was doing night raids only earlier wasn't finding shit
>>548252134Ticks do die to one hit, your aim is just bad. Fireballs you just wait until they open and they are 1 tap with anything. Pops sometimes do take 2 bullets, but ive had plenty of situations of 1 tapping them with a burletta or kettle.
Trade?
>spend days looting everything in EMS missions looking for snaphook BP>can't find shit>EMS blueprints are fucking LIE>eventually some random player jumps me in bluegate and gives me oneT-thanks...
>>548255508This game can hardly call itself an extraction shooter. The best way to play the game is endless Stella Montis free loadout queues because theyre quick matches.There is no end game there is no reward for extracting with tons of loot. The main goal is "Get more value". Using your loot never helps. This game literally goes nowhere and none of the goals are real
>>548255586Naked, key in pocket, wait until last 5-10m and if no one is there go loot it
>>548254720Idk itd be anecdotal but burieds been the most generous to me in bps
>>548256074That sounds like very fun engaging gameplay
>>548255586Depending on the loot if its ass we linger around and loot stuff
>>548256454Welcome to Arc
can you still escape after the timer? i ran to the wrong extract and it was closed, now the timer is gone but nothing happened
>>548255586I don't go completely naked, but I'm basically just carrying a light shield, some grey bandages, a hairpin, a few impact grenades, adrenaline, ~2 shield rechargers, a door blocker, and a jolt mine. That sure sounds like a lot when I type it out but it can pretty much be crafted from a box of scraps.The key is in my anus, and I really don't care about the rest of the kit if I get ganked. If I make it to the loot room, then I'll block the door and jolt mine it too. The idea is that all of that should buy me time to finish looting and shove anything important up my anus. Nobody has tried breaching my blocked doors yet. I feel like non-combative players will change plans and vacate the area if you've blocked off the locked room, and a lot of the combative ones probably will take up camping positions nearby. Either way, anything important is up your anus.
>>548256885As long as an elevator is coming you can extract, so someone else probably called one and was getting in it
>>548256885Sort of. If an extraction point is in-transit or a raider hatch is open, the nuclear explosion is contractually obligated to wait until that last extraction finishes extracting.
I make sure to kill at least one player per night/event raid to keep loot inflation low.
Which map has the highest chance of bombadiers? Don't say spaceport.
>>548256069TRVKE. Literally a f2p endless grind treadmill that somehow successfully sold for 40 bucks.
>>548257046No Mercy
>>548257046IMO Blue Gate. Run up to the top of the hills in the north east side of the map. Look for the spotter drones. Then kill it with some mix of det grenades or cloak/lure grenade/deadline. Kill it quick and shove the purple cells up your anus.I don't normally get ganked on that side of the map. The sweats are normally fighting over the bunker. Consider doing this in the day while a night/EMS mission is present or during a queen/matriarch mission. The kosniggers are normally camping near the queen/matriarch, or sweating up the night/EMS mission.
>>548256885I have never once died to any explosion, it always seemed weird to me. Just yesterday I didnt realize how far from extract I was and I missed it. No one had called the elevator, it was a night raid so no hatches, and I was just standing there outside an elevator that could no longer be called for like 2 minutes, I fought some wasps and then I just surrendered. I probably could have just stayed in the map and went looting for blueprints to stuff in my ass or something. I expected an explosion or like a massive swarm of arc to take me out, but nothing for minutes after the timer ran out.
I think I'm just done until they do something about the TTK Kettle and Stitcher are just too effective, it's not even fun trying to run any other guns
>Just using the Origin suit in black because its the only thing close to a 'camo' that hides you Why yes of course I want a bright fucking orange suit to wear in this game where being seen is being dead.
>>548257641I feel like the dark green voyager space suit is decent.
>>548257632I don't know what the fuck they were thinking.>what kind of ROF do we want to give this thing>how about as fast as the player can click. What can go wrong?
>you can't freekit unless your stash is devoid of weapons AND materials to craft one.>you can not enter a raid naked. you need an augment, shield, and weapon equipped.>using the surrender option from the menu voids your safe pocket.Fixed the game.
>>548257884Its not bad either but I wish we just had more choice with all the sets
>>548257968Yeah capping semi-auto gun fire rate is like basic gun balancingYou'd have to be incredibly incompetent to allow firing as fast as you can click
>>548258050there are so many small fixes they could try, and yet they do nothingthe expedition update better be freaking massive, like game changing
dude how the fuck do you time dropping the clock and putting the deadline, I just fucked it up and lost both.
>Get Security Breach>Suddenly getting a FUCKTON more loot Its not like a small bit here or there, its 5-10 more purple items per run. I just opened a single stash and got fucking three wolfpacks.
>>548257632You are a fucktard. Your gun is all around its wind up and then you can solo 1v3 with good positioning and one clip.Why would you rush an angle you knew he was at before revving up your weapon?
Valid strat?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9wmDddu5xl0
>>548257292must have been a bug, theres a big explosion when the timer runs out and then your screen goes black, but I guess that gets messed up if you miss the final extract and delay the end timer or w/e
>>548258346I haven't had a chance to open many since I unlocked it, but I haven't gotten a single purple out of it yet. Just more burlettas and stacks of ammo.
>>548258371It revs up? Never noticed thatAnd I rushed him because I thought the jolt mine got him
>>548258467It's situational. The rocketeer needs to get within 20m to snaphook it, it can try to flip you, and 30m is about the max height that you can fall before you die from 100% HP.
>>548258371Uh, bro, my gear's a higher rarity. I should be allowed to mindlessly hold W while ignoring the main trait of my gun and still win a gunfight without landing a single headshot.
>>548257632>>548258371nta, but if you 'rev up' early, he can actually peak into it and trade for headshots and win-- not so much at this range, but even just ~3m further and he could have easily lost.what he needed to do was slide
>>548258750I don't think that it revs up, but you probably should have been pre-firing before the crosshairs even were on target. It's an LMG. You have enough ammo.
>>548258750>>548258857>>548258371it doesn't rev up, but it sometimes takes an extra .2 seconds w/ the animations. and if you roll w/ it you cant fire for like 1+ second. it makes no sense
>>548257632firstly, why did you not immediately crouch to aim better? Torrente literally says it does not shoot well unless crouching.
>>548258824Considering that said gun is a light machinegun at point blank range and the opposition is some kind of souped up super soaker? Probably yeah.
>>548257632>sprinting
>>548258974The range was 5m tops. Cone of fire wasn't the problem.
>>548257632You thought you could win against someone with a kettle and a macro, and you didn't even bring a stitcher?
>>548258280Well I just went to Blue Gate and threw two wolfpacks and a det nade at it and it went KABLOOEY
>>548257632>know exactly where he is>have positional advantage with 3rd person view>throw it all away and dieThat said the guy was a cautious enough player to not run straight into the room so already you know you're not dealing with some retard. The jolt mine probably did more harm than good by letting him know someone was waiting for an ambush but really you shouldn't have run out. If it did get him he wouldn't have been able to duck back into cover like that so that should have been your first hint to stay hidden. Wait until he's in the room properly next time.
>>548257632>Other guy avoided the jolt mine so you got baited into not only giving your position away but rushing him with an LMG and were still bringing your gun up as he peeks and shoots>You did absolutely nothing to take advantage of your gun like prefiring him nor did you even try aiming at his headThis is not a kettle or stitcher problem, you genuinely just played this poorly. The game would have the opposite problem it currently does if you felt confident winning a gunfight like this.
now I can play pvp
Why not just...RUN AWAY?Instead of engaging?
>>548259607>0 mechanical components lel
>>548259857I just craft them when I need them, otherwise its a waste of an inventory slot when I'm out looting
>>548258050>>you can not enter a raid naked. you need an augment, shield, and weapon equipped.>>using the surrender option from the menu voids your safe pocket.>crafts the cheapest loadout for 2 metal>brings 5 adren shots>grabs 2 BPs up his butt>1 plastic in all inventory slots>runs to the nearest raiderwhat they really should do is not have BPs safe pocketable.
>>548259946So instead you'd rather have rubber and metal taking up two slots?
>>548260005yes because rubber and metal are used for other matsI don't make a bunch of extra shit and complain about my inventory being full, I just have the base mats I need to craft what I want when I need it, then just sell/store stuff after every match and everything stays organizedfrom all the posts complaining about stash space I'm starting to see why
>>548260005>two slotshuh?I have 8slots of chems rubber steel , etc each.i thought thats normalI also bring a bunch with me every raid for field crafting stims and rechargers
>>548259698Because i'm not a fucking cuck.
>>548258280>dude how the fuck do you time dropping the clock and putting the deadline, I just fucked it up and lost both.By chucking a lure grenade over yonder to distract the bombard/bastion before planting the deadline. Otherwise, if you don't have streamer luck, it will just do the point blank AOE explosion or spin around and magdump you.
>>548260117Poorfag stash
>>548260195weird cope cause you got btfo by an anon
The movement in this game is really fun it's half of why I enjoy it so much.
>>548260265>referring to yourself in the third personHuh?
>>548260296yeah its really slick. they should add more movement options for the movement tree so i can do this in game.https://youtube.com/shorts/72k6vPrmUJ0?si=TXL5fIQCtYjnsZGl
>>548260340lmao madgo clean up your stash moron
>>548260350Wall jumping would be pretty sick.
>>548260371>cope>u madstashlets...
>>548260440literally your posts>>548260195>>548260340now you're just projecting lmaoyou're losing your fucking mind over being bad at arc raiders
>>548260490>no uLMAO
>>548260559>>548260340you already did thatyou fucking lost this anonymous argument so hard lmao
>>548260692First time I've seen a double no u, impressive.
ermbros im starting to kos so I can feel anything when I play this game now
>>548260763yea its pretty pathetic on his part kek
>>548260802Yeah HE sure is a loser, he being him if you know what I mean haha.
I'm starting to feel like the retards at Embark hard-coded the loot tables for every individual container on the maps.
>sec lockers are mostly just ammo and shitty consumes now36 point investment btw
Security lockers should go back to pre nerf loot tables but have a 50% chance to violently explode upon opening
>>548261010It produced so many blueprints during those first few days that they felt like they needed to nerf BPs across the fucking board.
>>548261114It should at least be giving me Renegade/Venny IIs or Tempests on the regular.
>>548261176I feel like they definitely stealth nerfed it with either 1.3 or 1.4 desu. After the first nerf I was still getting 1-2 blue weapons nearly every locker, sometimes 3-4 wolfpacks as well. Now I only see il toro, burletta, and arpeggios and only get a blue like 1 out of every 8. Wolfpacks are like 1 out of 3 and usually only 1 at a time.
>>548261320Yeah idk why they feel the need to keep nerfing it like this, if it's that egregious to Embark then get rid of the fucking lockers and skill instead of making it a crapshoot.
>Want to play more>No reason to>Just a loot pinata for psychopaths
>>548261747Yeah I'm just gonna play other things while I wait for the expedition
Are retards actually complaining about being "punished" and "having" to go out and collect shit to craft the real gear? Just go play CoD if you don't like the cadence.
>>548261630>last 2 minutes>extract camper shoots me to near death by train station>hide around a corner and stitcher him in the head when he runs after me>say "Yeah bitch" on mic then knock him outthis weapon is incredible lmaothanks for the loot faggot
>>548261320>>548261561Anecdotal bullshit here but I think there is also an anti-luck quality to stop people running the same map and the same spots over and over. If you run different maps (nighttime/electric as well) to loot different spots I find I get better stuff. I was for example running Stella back to back for hours and after the first BP nothing. Switched to Dam and suddenly a new one appeared within a couple games.
>>548261828Imagine being that dude and getting mogged by someone running the augment with the locked binoculars slot lmao, I think I'd kill myself.
>>548261931yeah he was definitely having a moment over that turn of events, shame i didnt have OBS running or id post the clipthat bp is the only one i have for epic backpacks, and its really just a glorified blue one... stim on shield break does fucking nothing most of the time
>>548261931>Imagine being that dude and getting mogged by someone running the augment with the locked binoculars slot lmao,kek what fucking augment is this?
Gaming honestly sucks lol im going to fuck bitches instead
>>548262147>less carrying capacity >locked augment slotits pretty shit
>>548262029Hopefully you'll get Looting (Survivor) or Tactical (Healing) BPs soon, those are some of the best ones IMO at least in terms of slots/inventory space. Healings affect is a bit of a meme but 3x healing slots is pretty nice since still have 4 slots for nades/mines/zips.
>>548262468yeah man im finding fucking nothing in the way of blueprints, gonna have to spam loot night loot runs today. kind of pisses me off i got the absolute worst epic backpack, the other ones have 3 safe pockets for fuck sake
Thanks game, I really needed that print
I feel like people are killing me more for wearing the radio renegade helmet, but I'm not even using the closed variant.
>>548262640Craft a full inventory of them and spam them on a spot I wanna see if you can blind people
Why don't we have a roadmap or release window for the big updates?
>>548262936Because it's not early access
>>548262936Are you stupid or something
>>548262640Waiting until the last two days was the best decision ever
>>548262975I'd like specific dates but this is good
>>548263095Gee anon I wonder if the community event ending might be the date
>>548263040the ground based arc one can be done by just bringing 9-12 snap blasts and killing one single bombardier at night. it was easy i had no idea i even did it and got 3 stars lol
>>548262975>and more...Translation>we have no plans and no idea what we're doing
Can someone red pill about this game?
Are they gonna buff the room loot because there is dogshit in there most of the time I have a Stella montis archives key but don’t want to do it because it’s just not worth the pain in my dickhole
>>548263215Good PvE, bad PvP, may get updated, may not
>>548263238shits got me wondering if i should just vendor my keys for the inventory space. also who the fuck is going to do expedition when it resets your bp's? shits the most tedious thing to collect in the game
Even hidden bunker is just a KOS shitfest. Dropping this game.
>>548262975I wish that the quest rewards were less shit.>here's a light extended magazine. Don't spend it all in one placeAt least hand out XP for leveling up.
>>548263215Fun at launch because everyone was prioritizing upgrades, blueprints, bench levelsNow that most people have finished doing that they just shoot you on sight, so now it's less fun.If you didn't play it at launch you missed the boat
>>548263548Most players are still leveling up, and most in NA are still friendly. It's just that fuel has gradually been thrown on the fire of the freenigger menace. They need to nerf the everloving fuck out of freekits to make them non-viable for ganking. It's just obnoxious dealing with those fucking rabit dogs jumping you every match. Even if you are good enough to fight them off. They just keep coming. They're always fucking freekits at least 80% of the time.It doesn't cost much to craft your own stitcher, but it would be enough to make most of the cretins get bored and give up.
hidden bunker is a shitty event
>>548263215It's a fun casual extraction shooter but it remains to be seen if they'll update it to have enough longevity because it's currently a little too casual when it comes to loot and there's no forced wipes on progression so after a decent amount of hours you can reach a point where you just never really care about dying. People team up a lot more than in other extraction shooters, particularly in solos, but don't buy it expecting a co-op PvE experience like a bunch of retards on here. Other players will shoot you in the ass after convincing you they're friendly or kill you right before you extract and take all your shit. Don't get it if you think that'll cause you to have a meltdown.
>walking around on the outskirts of blue gate at night>fall through the map on flat grass
>>548263958AIIIEEEEE
>>548264008holy fuck I went through a wormhole or something and came out a couple feet above the ground and lived
>>548263916atp you just have to be retarded to not let the games issues get you down.Im not gonna melt down but after the 20th fake friendly,extract camp,insta death to a couple headshots while looting, etc etc etc situation, you just question why you're even bothering to load up this game over other games
>omw to hatch>there's a duel nearby>newbie jumpsuit gets downed>3rd party his attacker>assist downed guy to the hatchI wonder if I helped the right guy. I'd assume I did because first shot usually wins.
It feels like the "correct" way to get bps are the trials now.
>pushed off the top 20 leaderboardgay
>>548263040>Waiting until the last two days>Best way to play the game is to not play the game Lol. Lmao.
>>548264381The system is retarded, what can I say. I already have everything maxed and waiting for the expedition, so I didn't really "wait" for it, in my defence.
>>548264083>atpWhich is what? How many hours did you put in first?>the 20th fake friendly,extract camp,insta death to a couple headshots while looting, etc etc etc situationYeah, it's an extraction shooter. I'm not saying you're wrong for disliking it by any means but that's what the game is. If you get annoyed at these things and think they're issues then you want a different genre and that's absolutely fine. Nobody's ever said extraction shooters are for everybody and it's very understandable to find those experiences to be too much of a lowpoint for you.
which websites are people using to trade stuff like blueprints?
>>548264607The difference is that this game is schizofrenic and can't make up its mind if it wants players to be murderhobos that kill each other on site, or collaborate against the fucking raid boss enemies. The story narrative certainly implies that we're all supposed to be on the same team.
The loot in the apartments on dam is so fucking good I’ve found Light mag 2 bpTempest bpAngled grip bpAnd the legendary stock there gatekeep the area
>>548264903I've been there a dozen times at night and during EMS and all that I've gotten are dog collars and toasters. The BP system needs a fucking rework.
Im unironically very hopeful for Marathon.Cut all the kiddie PvE BS out of the game. No 3rd person. Just actual good FPS extraction combat where the loot is relevant and drives where the combat happens.Marathon will swoop in right as everyone is over the BS in this game
>>548264694>The story narrative certainly implies that we're all supposed to be on the same team.It also says we murder each other for scraps all the time, Celeste even got pissed off raiders are using her first wave anti-ARC trap to kill each other and sent us to disable it. The game gets MUCH more fun when you assume it's PvP and that friendly interactions are an exception.
>>548264486Im the same, usually play when kids get home and then can get first place with no effort
>>548264962do you have brain damageall I heard >I AM SO EXCITED FOR DUSTBORN/CONCORD!!!!!!!!!!!
>>548265079do you have brain damagehow do you fuck up greentexting, lmao
>>548264694The pvpve system in this game literally just doesnt work.It requires too many strangers online to collaborate together, and the ttk is too low to properly have a group police itself.It worked when it was new and everyone installed the game after watching a wholesome chungus Cohhcarnage clip, but it takes alot of community effort to sustain that
>>548264962>Cut all the kiddie PvE BS out of the game. No 3rd person. Just actual good FPS extraction combat where the loot is relevant and drives where the combat happens.That's already EFT and marathon is fucking DOA with all the negativity surrounding it.
>>548264962We have multiple first person extraction shooters, they all suck and they all died quickly
>>548263040One rank above you and my single promo cutoff score is 80k because I played at reset. They didn't think this shit through
>get killed by some extract campers for the last extract on stella montis>check their accountits over
>>548264953it really does>>548264962i played the closed beta, it's dogshit with no hope of redemption.
>>548265162.....do you think the key to arc raiders was 3rd person? and thats the recipe for a good extraction shooter? you retard
What’s the difference between muzzle break and compensator
There is a comfy sniper nest for snitch hunting on spaceport without any risk.>>548265254Happened to me last time, I accidentally shot a wasp on stella on day 3, double promo was 50k+ on tryhard 2.
>>548265542Yes, because it allows for more chances for people to see each other around cover and talk before shooting. But feel free to go back to your "great" FPS extraction shooters, oh wait they're fucking dead pfthahhahhaah.
>>548264962marathon could help arc raiders out considering that game is not at all intended to be a social game to the point that they had to be fucking cajoled into including prox chatpeople who are like "DUUUUDE i just want to play the actual game which is killing people I literally can't even perceive arc" might go to that game instead.i've heard it's surprisingly good now from a few people so maybe it'll work out
>>548265542The recipe for success was the masses being told that it wasn't like those other rat infested extraction shooters and that instead we were wholesome chunguses banding together against Skynet
>>5482655423rd person is good for arc because it allows people to see each other from safety and not immediately panic and start shooting. if you're going for raw combat all the time first person is better, arc isn't
>>548265778Yeah, in theory. That theory is dead and raped.We are using 3rd person to stalk people and kill them the moment we have a chance. Not to avoid combat and be friends.
>>548265936>We are using 3rd person to stalk people and kill them the moment we have a chancespeak for yourself, psychopathic freak
>>548265936mostly only in group games and a lot of it is the problem of free loadouts letting you engage in pvp as much as you want without losing literally anything. solo games are still carebear city as neo nu dice intended
It really shouldn't take as long as it does to put a loadout together
What happens if I prepare an expedition, but don't do it? Can I leave it sitting there waiting?
>>548265936>We are using 3rd person to stalk people and kill them the moment we have a chance. Not to avoid combat and be friends.meanwhile, me
>>548265580I'm pretty sure it says in the description. one for recoil, one for dispersion(bloom)
Anyone made a Raider version meme of the disheveled man smoking a cigarette while pumping gas?>rats could be here, he thought out loud
>>548265119not taking shit from a concord fart huffertrigger yourself elsewhere
Excellent raid gentlemen, excellent raid.
>>548265613They don't spawn there too much, but still, an okay spot.
>>548263040>just dont play the game all weekThis system is so brain damaged, but at the same time if it wasn't this way ranking up would be even more retarded because the top 30 would be a bunch of giga sweaty nerds in trios farming 200k+ points and everyone in solos would never be able to rank up.I got rank 1 with 57k points in Tryhard 3 by just waiting until night time as I figured most normies and gamerdads would be playing around 8pm EST and would possibly have Tuesday off because of thanksgiving and vacation time.
>>548265128nta but EFT is jank as fuck. it's got all the slavjank that games like STALKER have, but with none of the soul and filled with corporate greed bullshit like 500$ bundles and whatever other garbage they shit out on a plate>runs like shit>network is shit (literally see players phasing in and out of existence and teleporting around, even your own squadmates)>hitreg is shit>looks like shit>costs a fuckload of money if you actually want to have stash space>scav system is more archaic than freekit niggeryIt's just not good and it's sad that this is the genre definer and it's jankier than Dark and Darker whose identity is jank. Maybe extraction games simply were never meant to be.
>find someone fighting a shredder>he is losing>help him kill the shredder>shredder takes out the guy right as it dies>run over to the guy to try and defib him>someone runs to the scene and immediately kills me>DONT FUCKING KILL OTHER PLAYERS>the guy i was helping bleeds out toothanks for being a hero asshole
Why do you play as an old man?
>>548267536A necessary sacrifice to punish the PvPniggers infesting this game. Imagine if you actually shot someone.
>>548267427Jank doesn't matter, EFT will remain the king of PvP side of the genre because of outstanding weapon customization and strong PvP thrills for the sweats. Same reason Quake fags didn't give a fuck about QC and are content playing Q3 for all eternity. This reminds me of the copium Stormgate fans were huffing and saying their game will fix all the issues with SC2 and that all the pros are only waiting to jump ship.
>spawn in>hear a shield beep behind me>another guy spawned on my spawn>I kill him>hear ANOTHER shield beep>ANOTHER guy spawned on the SAME spawn>3 guys (including me) just spawned back to back at the same spawn
>>548267916I don't know man. I mean sure it's mechanics are great and the gear fear is great, but the game runs so poorly and the network problems are so shit I just cant take it seriously as a PvP game. Especially since they seem to have 0 anti cheat and fucking everyone is using lootspy and esp.
>>548264962I've never bet on a bad horse before and I believe Marathon will be successful, or at the very least find its player niche.The fact that it avoids the tacticool slavchink genre is already half the battle won.
Do you play solo, with friends, and/or with randoms?I find myself enjoying the game more as a solo. It's much more fun and interesting to go around and do my own things than wait around on my dumb teammates. I would say playing with my friends in enjoyable, it is; but also, they are loot goblins and take 5 minutes to loot a 3 room building. They rarely help in fights and never seem to know what's going on; it's like they have no game sense. Random teammates are a fucking torture experience; they are so dumb and bad it is indescribable. Only some times do you get a human being with thought patterns who can play the game the right way.Solo just feels like the perfect blend of STALKER, PUBG, HUNT Showdown, and more. Really scratches my itch to run around, explore, collect, and fight. When I play with a team I just feel like the retard wrangler who has to play their game for them.
>>548267964The worst part is you feel like a scumbag for killing them, but if you don't kill them you'll have them running you down in seconds.
>>548268139the only thing they really have to do to win me over is lose the fucking hero characters, or offer some kind of default player option. why would i play an extraction shooter, a genre about looting and improving your character, if i can only play as adam jensen 90% of the time
>>548268152We have the same problem friend. Our friends are shit at video games. It's why I started picking up fighting games back in like 2012. Having a game I can play just for me, with no one holding me back, and also no one to blame when I know I fucked up felt so good. I now treat games with friends as a social occasion where I don't mind taking it easy and drinking and just having fun doing dumb shit instead of trying.
>>548268152I definitely prefer solos over duo/trio. I duo with a friend occasionally but I have to constantly give direction on what to be doing during fights. Fucker just died to a rattler freekit while using a venator in a final 1v1 after I killed the other two in a trio and I had to call it quits. He wants help with trials and I'm always telling him they are way easier in solos where people won't try to kill you the second you shoot at the ai>When I play with a team I just feel like the retard wrangler who has to play their game for themThis is the experience for me as well, every time
Can't make this shit up. I am not even trying, just did the base minimum. The system is busted beyond good and evil
>>548268268Yeah it's a weird choice but maybe it works as long as they don't start adding a huge character roster with increasingly overpowered abilities that forces you to learn what each character does.I could it see it being fun having a sort of trifecta team comp with healer-dps-tank.At least they already lean far more into teamwork than Arc Raiders.
>>548268152I don't have any friends.
>>548268715>minimumIsn't minimum 4k for 3star on every trial?
>>548269043Technically, the bare minimum would be less than that, but enough to get the 2x. I meant it originally as "not sweating to much, just playing the game".
>>548266556I see thanks raider
>>548268152Solo. I used to pug squad but stopped doing that a long time ago, it's just Fortnite with extraction instead of the storm. I don't know how people enjoy that shit.
>>548268152i have like 10 friends who play and i prefer solo
>roll out with my typical green shield / ferro / stitch / 5 sharpnel grenade loadout>see a guy on rooftop of buried city, keep an eye on him>he cracks me with a ferro as expected>able to shield back up, hit him with a grenade>he then charges me with a fucking venator, hits me from my blind spot>i unload the stitch II with a gray extendo clip>win while still having 40% hp>while looting him i see he was wearing a blue shieldThanks for the retarded design decisions Embark. At no point should I have won that fight.
>>548268264Yeah, like you don't want to kill the poor guy just spawning in, but if you don't kill the dude who spawns in right behind you he'll just kill you instead
>Doing the Expedition just because my inventory was filled with shit >Was able to polish the whole thing off without doing any runs (knew about lights and humidifiers)>Went from 280/280 to 260Fuck me.
If you come lurking up on my called extract without making yourself known I'm going to blast your shit
>>548269898If you knock them instead of letting them extract with you, then you're just an extract camper. Which is exactly why I will continue sneaking up to extracts I plan to hitch a ride on. I'm never getting camped again and if you shoot me, I will put your bitch ass into the ground.
>Naked>Just doing a daily challenge stash run>Run past orange Ryder, say hi, instantly starts chasing me down to shoot me>Fires one shot and hits>proceeds to spend minutes running around buildings and sand to flank me >im just walking around roofing laughing >Kills me and goes 'the hell-' when they realise I have nothing on me HA
Why is the sound design for footsteps so fucking atrocious in this game? I walked behind someone waiting for extract and figured they HAD to be afk so I downed them and they immediately responded, felt bad so I defib'd but what the fuck.
I call the extract and keep a timer of 2 minutes after the doors open to know when to go in with the doors auto-closing at about 6 seconds left
>>548270084I do the same thing, down people and then let them crawl in with me. Will even bandage them if it gets a little close.
>>548270172Not a bad idea desu
WHY IS THIS DEV TEAM SO WHITETHIS IS NOT OK IN 2025
why are there no girls, or even pretend girls in my lobbies?
>>548259262Six cores off of single bombardier? I gotta do that too.
>>548268152Played solos and with friends. My friends aren't the greatest, like I think they were bronze or silver in Valorant when they played it, but most people who play this are godawful so they do fine and we rarely lose without getting third partied. Solos are interesting because they have more variety whereas trios is basically just teamfights but it can also be a lot more boring when everybody in the lobby is friendly so there's basically no real threat and you just collect free loot. I'd say friends is more fun on average but solo can be nice for the variety and more unique experiences.
>>548269898it's funny how many people don't understand this. it should be obvious. i have extracted with so many people crawling into the train after me
>>548270562the trannies are gettin their crust busted by their uncles for the holiday weekendthe real girls take the weekend off to stream on chaturbate and upload new OF pictures
Will this fucking rooster ever shut up??>>548270148We don't have the technology for accurate footsteps.
just killed 2 extraction campersfeels good
>>548271049>extraction campers with rare gear, including a hullcrackerI think you were the extraction camper, nigga. I don't believe your lies.
>>548271216They were near him when he got to extraction. Clearly those filthy rats must have been camping it.
>>548264051wow, first game that fixes you falling through the world that i've seen. Remarkable.
>>548265125cocarnage ganks ppl all the time though? don't let ecelebs live rent-free in your head please, its cringe to see opinions like yours.
>>548271339It took like 3-5 minutes before it fixed, not sure if it was on purpose or just hit the bottom of the skybox or some shit
>>548271216>>548271323I literally heard them kill another guy before I got there, and him loudly going>THERE'S TWO OF YOU?and them going something like this>hey this guy had some good stuff>oh wow a level 4?!So I walked towards the hole (it was the metro on buried city with a zip that goes down to it) and threw down a couple of trigger nadesUnfortunately I didn't make it there in time to revive the first guy
>>548271665>THERE'S TWO OF YOU?How do you know he didn't start it and got surprised when the other guy came in?
>>548271665>t-there was actually a player they killed and looted before! Lmao ok bud.
>>548271793>>548271834Because I saw him go down the hole and then the raider flare going up
Tips for finding fruit?I heard the lush bloom event is great for it but I just went to spaceport during the event, looked around the outside of the map that has a bunch of trees & can't find any
I dont think the devs realise that a 7 day drip feed on cosmetics isnt going to work when everything youve shown so far is bad. Everyone is just going to wait for a single good set to appear.
>>548271997Have you tried grindr?
>>548271997Lush blooms spawns wicker baskets that have a shitload of fruit in them. You can find these same baskets in the locked door in the Cafeteria on Stella (requires a fuel cell found around the area). Fuck waiting for lush blooms and running around like crazy for RNG spawns, just do Stella runs.
>>548272512
>Buried City night>breach a room>some faggot goes "don't shoot" and invites himself inside>be unarmed and odds are there's no BP here>hear his safe pocket noise>leave the building and hear his flareAs far as I'm concerned, that fucker stole a BP from me. I now go into night/EMS with gear in case some shithead invites himself to MY loot spots, and I'll unfortunately kill anyone who gets in it unless I'm done looting.
>>548270525White girls are fit for my Mediterranean cock.
>>548272872Just shoot near them. Even one bullet in a wall sends most people running.
>>548273037It's kinda baffling those people feel confident enough to invite themselves into a breachable room with a complete stranger.
>>548272872I just pickaxe them to death
>>548273424I guess I should've done that as soon as he started opening drawers etc. But I just tried to loot shit ASAP before he does. Next time I'll just kill them.
nothing is more cringe than the downed player giving away the 3rd-party's (me) position
>find 2 Bettinas in one key room>immediately salvage
>>548273405"Bro, what the fuck, I SAID FRIENDLY"
>>548274141They're not as bad as people pretend. It fits the niche of being ok vs everything but excelling at nothing, you can bring it and kill any player/arc easily and especially at long to medium range nothing much does better.
Is the Venator 4 worth it?I'm tired of getting outgunned in PvP and need to be able to clap back
anyone get a kit back from cheating since like the first week?
>>548274504Still one of the best pvp guns even after the slap on the wrist nerf and mid in pve
>>548274738I did get last weekend I've only reported 1 duo for cheating though
10 min late spawns again and again. where i am risking my real kit for nothing
>head into lobby on stella to do the quest there>two dudes fighting shredders>another dude on an upper level singing while looting>help the dudes finish the shredders>some rando takes a potshot at me from another level>instantly both dudes down here with me and the singing guy return fire on the new guy>flare goes up>the rest of us go back to doing what we were doing, singing and looting resumeswhat kind of maniac opens fire on three people who are clearly friendly and expects to win?
what map is the best for chimping out?
>>548274796So Anvil for PVE + LVL4 Venator for PVP is the way to go?
>>548275358buried, maybe. on stella everyone is chimping, so no one is chimping
>>548275372ferro is much more cost effective and makes up for the lack of long range. anvil is solid for both pvp and pve so its a bit redundant if you have infinite resources though, sure
>>548275354a very stupid man who wants to watch the world burn lol.
I actually like spawning late on stella montis. Finding all the bodies tells a story of its own plus no one had time to loot the place because they were too busy murdering each other. Just me, loot, and quiet. Like walking through a grocery store before it opens.
>>548275518>ferro is much more cost effectiveyeah but ferro makes me feel like I'm firing a musket. I'd rather have the 6 shots that Anvil provides
>>548275358I second buried, I seem to get the most aggro there
God I wish I could find a wolfpack bp so I wouldn't feel back about throwing these things
>>548276271unless you upgrade it, a lvl1 anvil has the same time between shots as a lvl4 ferro
>kill guy at night >"wtf why did you kill me???"
>>548276926I know the feeling so my dupe is going to my friend so he can hand it back after i exped my current character its the one bp i cant live without
>>548276406i dont want people to expect agro tho. i want them to trust me
>>548275372Pretty much, yeah
>>548274504Stitchers a nice retard proof pvp weapon. Solid dps and it doesnt need a good trigger finger so you can focus fully on tracking.
>>548276926
>Go fully equipped to hunt Leapers in a night raid>Off spawn see a flare in the distance, its sort of on the way lets go check it out>As I get closer find someone running from the area, suspect this is the PVP'er, give him a "hello raider!">He turns to face me, theres a pause, then he just pulls out a gun whilst standing still and starts shooting>In the dark had to engage in what felt like a fairly balanced 1v1>In the end get him because he gives up because he's out of ammo>He had a fucking rattler 1 on a free kit and I used up my fucking consumables healing while I wore him down>He didnt even care and wanted the run to end because he had no ammo>I get no loot>I used resources and now my run is fucked and I have to extract to restock and try againWhat the fuck is even the point of gearing up. People just wanna pick free loadouts and pvp constantly and you cant engage with the game's systems. This will genuinely kill the game
Found a vertical grip 3 in the apartments in dam fuck I love the apartments
>>548277653nta but any chance you need extended light mag 2? just found one and i could use the medium extended 2
>>548277919Blue print
>>548277653Your mockery wounds me
I don't think I've ever found a blueprint on Stella montis
>all the blueprints I could ever want>hovering around 3 mil credits>100+ fully modded guns in stash>still using shitkits 24/7I will never learn
>pass a friendly guy and keep going after a brief chat>encounter a new guy heading towards the friendly guy>tell him to be careful because there's a guy that way that is shooting on sight and he shouldn't take any chances>hear gunfire and a flare a few minutes later
>>548277323why did you kill him though?
Stella Montis
How many hornets do I need to kill with snap blasts for this damn quest objective to actually register holy FUARK
>>548279064freekit pvp deathmatch arena
>>548278546Its arguable whether you're even at that much of a disadvantage for using freekits
I'm bored. New deck when?
Anedotal schizo theory, if you have a key your spawn point has like a 80% chance to be on the ass end of the map. So whenever you want to loot some area, check and see if there is a key room on the polar opposite side of the map from that place and equip that key in your ass before queuing. You almost always end up where you want.
>>548279336early/middle of december supposedly
>>548279382I think january is more likely since that's when the expedition resets
>>548278909Some guy tried killing a rocketeer and bombardier from the roof of a building on spaceport. He threw 2 wolfpacks and I heard venator 4 firerate shots from him. He died to the ai which was fucking hilarious, so I went on up to scoop the loot. Some other guy comes in from below and starts taking potshots with a ferro at the rocketeer and bomardier while I'm on the roof and so I have to crouch walk around AC units to block LOS from the rocketeer and spotter drones for like 8 minutes until the guy down below comes up to get a better angle. I was pissed off at him and killed him. Could I have voip'd and said, "hey stop shooting, I'm up here." Sure, but I was annoyed and I wanted the loot off the venator dude. Shit was amazing btw, looting survivor, ven 4, 2 more wolfpacks, blue meds and util out the ass. Can't believe he lost it all to pve
>planned to do the expedition>suddenly start finding the blueprints i wantedWHYWHY IS THE SYSTEM LIKE THIS
They should add a Flea Market so we can sell our junk to other players. People already trade shit even though there's no dedicated system for it, so why not?
>>548279580that's not a lot to lose when you have the blueprints lol
>>548279532>>548262975
how the fuck is NEXON PUBLISHED embark not selling me stash slots yet
>>548277783>Wasted all your meds and only finally beat a dude with a fucking rattler 1 because he ran out of ammoNigga, the rattler 1 is not a good gun. People have literally been saying free kits should be restricted to it and the hairpin. What change do you actually want to see where someone with a broke ass kit cannot possibly beat you even when you struggle this much to kill them? The game has problems but you can't be posting embarrassing skill issues like this and blaming the game for it.
>biggest arc streamers on a long weekend saturday are ninja, some french people, and vtubersdid we fall off?
>>548280286Chinese are learning
>>548278546>look at stash>have like 8 tempest IV with purple/blue mods>take stitcher IV with green mods again
>>548278598Literally the only good greentext story I've seen in this general.
Wait the 5 bonus skillpoints you get from doing the expedition is based on your remaining stash value when you reset? You mean I MIGHT NOT QUALIFY FOR IT????
why are there never matriarch/harvester lobbies in the morning?
>>548280541Probably a window so u can do runs to build stash up before actually expeditioning
is this the worst addon???? it literally just nerfs your anvil voluntarily
>>548255306whatever, if i enjoy it untill feb i'll be happy
>>548277783>gets nearly rekt by a rattler 1Lmao just uninstall the game lil bro.
>>548280765But it's a 20% damage increase if you hit all 4 projectiles! I haven't looked in-depth at the breakpoints but it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't change the shots to kill
>>548280814what comes out in feb?
>hit level 75Finally. Now I can just play on Sunday afternoons and ensure that I get +2 rank up for Trials for the next two weeks. Sayonara, suckers.
>>548281012i was in the testing range and it took 3 bodyshots of hitting all 4 projectiles to down. doesnt the regular non modded anvil also take 3 shots?????? im sobbing
>>548279963I have the BPs too, but if I don't get excited at that, then there's no point in playing
>>548242875spaceport -> rocket assembly, blue lockers on the catwalk with the dead android, and the red lockers near the NE side of the building
>>548280429I still feel kind of bad about it but it was funny as hell
>>548281139Reduces shots to kill on heavy shields head from 3 to 2
>>548281657Don't feel bad. That kinda shit is what makes these games special.
there is almost nothing worse than the fucking retards that take a full match to kill a bastion with it making noise the entire time
>>548260959i think so too, its noticeable in some smaller buildings
>>548266296>It really shouldn't take as long as it does to putThere really should be a loadout system in place for setting up your own custom loadouts.
some fag is in the house beside me camping my kill and im going to wait it out to the very end
>>548282170i win... only got 3 cores (i killed a 2nd one in the last ~3 min) before i ran out of time
>>548276926Run night buried, that thing's practically everywhere. Grandioso, hospital, space, random drawers
>>548281012If you can hit your headshots it becomes the best shotgun
>>548282907WTF
>>548283095I think I picked up another 2 or 3 since I made that screenshot...
>>548283182I think some acounts are just lucky and some are unlucky, they might actually use account seeds seeing some peoples posts about their personal experience200+ hours and like 15 blueprints, and someone else posted the same experienceI play Night Raid and EMS and search literally everything, it feels ridiculous
>shoot prop off hornet>does a 1080 no scope stun shot while spasming in the air and i cant fucking hit a second rotar
>>548283452How many runs have you done? I do night/ems dam and night buried every night before I go to bed, 2-3 hours a day basically. I get at least one new blueprint every night. One thing I noticed is that drops are a lot better during IRL nighttime, maybe it has to do with server/lobby population somehow? Also you might just be inefficient with your runs, I stopped doing anything aside from pharmacies on buried and apartments/research on dam.
>>548277526>Pretty much, yeahThen why the fuck did my venator 4 + medium shield just get outgunned by some sticher IV abusing fuck? I swear the balance is retarded in this game. Blue guns should NOT be worse than grey ones>>548277568>Stitchers a nice retard proof pvp weaponI won so many gunfights on stella montis by just rushing with the stitcher on free kits, It's not even funny. Sucks to be on the receiving end
What's the best map and condition for ARC hunting? I need me some bombardier cores and arc alloy too
>>548284094Is research worth rushing on dam? Whenever i spawn near it i just go to primary facility loading bay for a chill few openings instead of rushing research which i feel might be too hot for chill bp hunting normally
>>548284628If you want arc alloys you should just do that probe condition and dismantle all the arc circuitry and shit for a gorillion alloy, otherwise dam is probably the best place for safe arc farming
>>548284734Yes, absolutely. Many times nobody ever comes so it's worth checking out even if you spawn late but close enough. But your mileage may wary because of the retarded matchmaking.
>>548285178Basically only places i hit on dam are pattern, pale, and ruby with good spawns, Otherwise loading area of primary. I guess ill toss research on it. For buried with good spawns i usually try grandiose, breach room east of it or plaza rosa. Otherwise i just hit the breach pharmacy and dip. Havent found anywhere worth hitting on blue gate that isnt the room with mk3 or space port at all.
>>548284628i got my bomber cores just running buried city, you can make quick work of them with 9 or so snap blasts (good because they stick) and finish them off with a valve or ferro. night time is better if you can
>>548285805No idea about primary, definitely do research and both breach rooms on floodgates, even if you don't have sec breach.
>>548285805I hit the car parking lot area on the south edge of spaceport all the time. Otherwise it's arrivals or departure
my game crashed and i lost a kit
>>548286002Primary isnt amazing it has like 8 breach iron boxes, like 6 shipping container boxes and maybe 4-6 desk/filing boxes. I dont even think the shipping containers can drop bps though but they shit out rusted tools for springs a ton
>>548286582there was a chinese guy camping me, it was kinda sus
>>548285805>>548286075Another thing you can do is run green keys naked, if you find something else on the way you can just toss the key, if not you have a guaranteed room with untouched above average loot. Obviously do it at night or during EMS. But I don't recommend blue or spaceport because the spawns are so ass. >Otherwise it's arrivals or departureNever got anything good there, ever. Same for control tower building. I think shotgun mag II is the only one I ever got, and that's for around 15 fully looted red zone buildngs. Warehouse key is decent but as I said, good luck getting a good spawn for it. If you just spawn-surrender you can easily get just one or two good spawns over the course of the entire hour.>>548286614Another easy option is car trunks and bus backs, those can have blueprints, I even got a mk3 aug from a bus once. Very rare chance but if you're bent on running spaceport or blue you might just get lucky on those.
>>548286760Ive like 4 blue gate village keys the last one i used had 4 lootables during ems very cool
Any good? Worth using over my Supressor 2?
How the fuck are people scoring so high in this week's trials? They're not super farmable like wasp/hornet damage. Rankup cutoff is 52k for me.
>>548287183Only meaningful on guns that have bloom that outstrip their firerate, like anvil IV or torrente....Except the 20% increased durability burn means you don't want to use it on high-tier guns because they're already LESS durable than the guns made of repurposed lead pipes, for some stupid reason.
>>548287125They're okay container wise but I don't remember pulling anything from them. Might as well use them.
>do harvester>get blueprintsez game ez life
trials are broken, try my leaderboard>>548287260
>>548287458Everyone already has them, aphelion is the rat hunt dream
>>548287524I would assume less than 30% of the player base has them
>>548287463lol...
>>548287660less than like 5% man
>>548287660Everyone who isnt a retard has them then.
how angry is unreasonably angry
>>548287458I haven't even tried queen or matriarch yet
>>548287698Electro Blue Gate 30k+ pull snitches and keep killing themElectro Blue Gate 50k+ sit at pilgrim and pull all rocketeers to urself and kill themElectro Spaceport 60k just run around and get husksSpaceport Night 40k+ just run around and kill all bastions, bombardiers, leapersall that and just that while killin other players, once u throw wolfpack u coolest kid in lobby and everybody wants to talk to you with venators
just saw someone take out these 2 rocketeers iwth 3 wolfpacks and then backstabbed him with a rattler and won. #totalratvictoryand then i also killed 2 people right outside an exit and couldnt even loot them before the exit autoclosed. #ratmindset
oh and i was also a free loadout and got an osprey 4 and anvil 4 from the first guy.
hell yeah brother.
oh and i am trans btw
>>548287260I didn't want to say so people don't push me off the leaderboard, but i just got 16k points on a trialbut this gay already gave 4/5 trials away >>548288069I just did spaceport night and opened every husk I could find
Why does this shit keep happening?>shooting at arc>guy in the same vague direction downs you>why would you do that?>"A RAT WAS SHOOTING AT ME BRO"???
Electromagnetic storms = goop goop goop
>>548288069>>548288797didn't mean to call you gay lmao>>548288848people are retarded>help a player being pastered by 2 hornets and a wasp>kill them all for him>"DONT SHOOT ME PLEASE I JUST WANT TO EXTRACT"bro if I was aiming for you, I would have hit you
I still don't get how you kill a Rocketeer soloI tried helping someone on Spaceport by shooting at one of the engines across the map, and all it did was aggro me, and the other guy just left I guess, because i was assuming he would shoot it in the ass while its aimed at me, and I had to wait for it to get bored and then I extracted
I've gotten so many BPs lately I'm feeling spoiled
>>548288998>>548288797 it was common knowladge around, anyway.. the only special sauce is that not everything is shown in maps online, here comes game experience where are extra husks and arcs routes best of luck raider
>>548289291Just start killing people and you'll end up with wolfpacks.Then use 2 to down a rocketeer :3
>>548288597Want to queue up
have they added toggle aim option yet?
All 3 BPs dropped in the breach room
i was loading into a game when i realized i had to peace out to do something irl, right clicked the game on the taskbar and closed it, it actually let me keep my loadout (lol)
>>548280314It doesnt really matter if its a good gun or not, the point is the lack of care from the player. He literally stood out in the open without cover firing at me and wasted my resources because he doesnt care if he loses them, while he's playing against someone who has resources that they're invested in not losing if they can help it.Obviously the rattler is a bad gun, but it was still a net zero interaction because of the fact that freekits are so easy to use and change the way people playWhats the point of an extraction shooter where you can play like you dgaf if you extract alive or not?
>>548289996lol @ the flare in the safe pocket
WHAT IS THIS DESYNC
Bought the game November 9th.I feel like I'm already done with the game. Like what is there to play towards? If I want straight shooter gameplay there are better shooters on the market, I'm meant to be motivated to go after loot but it feels like the loot doesnt matterWhy go for purple loot and bosses when lmao stitcher IV goes brrrrrr
>>548290627its just high ping / low tic rate
I used 2 keys on Dam and didn't get jack shit, another repeat Bettina bp (3x now). Meanwhile I'm still missing more than half of the blueprints, this shit is so whack.
>>548283452>they might actually use account seeds seeing some peoples posts about their personal experiencecompletely unhinged kek
>>548290648If you don't like the game, take a break or refund it my guy
>>548290648i keep saying the same thing but then i play the entire day
>>548289996Which room is that? Confiscation Room?
kettle is so dogshit its unreal
>>548290648There is nothing to work towards at the moment until/if the devs address the lack of proper gear progression.
>>548291378>just have a 100% headshot hit rate bro
>>548291378>filtered by being unable to click fast lmao
>ambush a guy from hiding>"aww man was that really necessary">"I'm going to remember your name"Are people really that hugbox about this game?
>>548291432>>548291460I meant rattler sorry
>>548291527yeah its very mid
Does anyone else find the game fatiguing after a while since you always have to be locked in and ready for a fight?
>>548291619I feel like it's not the case at all, especially compared to something like tarkovI'm just sprinting around the map with my gun holstered 80% of the time
>>548291062>Refund>After 81 hoursKek. I mean I'm not fussed about the price/money invested. £50 for 81 hours of entertainment is really good value all things considered. I just feel bummed because the game feel really big and had this kind of "ooooo this could be the next big thing" flashy effect on me at first and now it feels a bit like (depressingly) the cracks are starting to show. Like the most efficient way to play is just chucking on a free kit or throwing together some cheap hobo kit with a ferro IV and Stitcher IV and just running and gunning, but then it feels like you aren't engaging with 90% of the game's content. Like who gives a fuck if I find a piece of purple loot in a drawer, wheres the excitment to try and exact with; whatever I could use to make with it is already inferior to the gun in my hand. I'm sitting on 500k dosh and nothing to spend it on
Post em
Is Village a pretty good spot for goop in Blue Gate? I've gotten a couple BPs just from the dumpsters
We need coomer outfits.
Is it only the orange/black outfit that is rat drip? I've been rocking this one lately and I really like it
>>548292159Everybody I've encountered using that will shoot you in the back, and if you get to cover, will start yapping in a performative, overly-friendly way desperately trying to convince you that they actually just confused you for the "rat" that shot them earlier.
>>548288848sometimes a cringe-lord will be soo victim-hood oriented, when they're being niggers, they'll just accuse you of something they know isn't true, so they feel better about being a nigger.>you were shooting at me bro>your gun was out >i saw you gank that other guytotal lies, but they cope about their niggardly behaviour by trotting one out.
>>548291764But... what's the point?
>>548287463>>548287260What ranks are you on? Did you start in the beginning of the week?I waited this week out, as I posted before, and ignoring the two sweats, it seems to be easier than it should be.
>>548292591I'm 2nd quote and I am wildcard 1. Pretty sure I got some score right at refresh.
>>548292707The system is busted beyond reason
So what things will improve the endgame?
>>548290972you may be right, I might have found the real problem>use combat kit cause i like the health regen>almost 0 blueprints in my whole gametime>use a looting augment>blueprint on the first EMS Dam Battlegrounds I do
everyone is running freekits on stella. everyone. i killed three people last round because they were trying to steal my sneeds at the sneed vault and they ALL had freekits. each and every one of them.
>>548288069glad to see I'm gated out of competing because I don't have the wolfpack blueprint to convert my massive pile of motion cores into score. So epic.
>>548293113Because that map is pure chaos
>>548292851ive been running looting augments exclusively, and i have a really shit rate of finding blueprints. it's not about what backpack you use
>>548293113Why would I queue stella montis with even a basic kit that takes me 5minutes to craft and set up, when someone will just kill me 2 minutes into Stella Montis
good times
>be in bumfuck nowhere swamps of dam>throw wolfpack at surveyor>see 1 rocket beeline over treeline>angry_rocketeer.jpg
>>548293212maybe you could be the one who kills them instead if you kit up...
>>548291764
>>548293171FUCK
>>548292792more things to actually use ARC mats onthere is no reason aside from workshops to use that shit>>548293113I am free kitting on stella rnjust keep doing it until embark has to do something about them
When a Rocketeer gets a bead on me I just accept my fate at that point.
>>548293392>just keep doing it until embark has to do something about themif you keep doing it, embark is less likely to do something about it rather than more likely... theyll just see the raw metrics and go wow everyone is free kitting, it must be working as intended!
>>548293476if no one is engaging with the core gameplay of looting and risking your gear then surely they will realize shit isn't working as intended
So Raiders took down all of those Baron husks in the maps? What happened? Did they come back with stronger units?
>>548293340you should still run the epic looting ones if you can, the ones that let you run mid shields. they give you 3 safe pockets
>>548292406Sounds like a based skin.
>>548292452Gonna start asking people about breakfast now lol.
>>548291619no, this game is like laying in bed compared to hunt showdown
>>548293875i think just MORE, they wore earth down
They need to do a Baron Remnant event where you can fight one
>>548294998I imagine theyd put multiple since they seem like the inbetween of bombadier/bastions and queens/matriarchs
>>548290648>i treat it like an esport, turn off VC, and wonder why im not having fun gunning down people who are unarmed all dayYou're cancer.
I wish the skins didn't suck ass. I'm still sitting on my 1500 free tokens and at this rate I'll probably only use them to buy the next deck (assuming you'll be buying it with tokens).
>>548295118>YOU HAVE TO BE HECKIN WHOLESOME AND CHUNGUS PILLED FOR A SHOOTER TO BE FUNZ!!
>>548295118I mean PvE is not engaging. Its in a weird place. Enemies are defeated by like 2 WPs, if not, you hide behind a sheet metal and plink away at some bloated HP monster for 10 minutes. Assuming someone doesn't kill you first.Then PvP is all fucked because of the shit loot balancing.
>>548295230>YOU HAVE TO BE HECKIN WHOLESOME AND CHUNGUS PILLED FOR A SHOOTER TO BE FUNZ!!Yes.
>Dam EMS, 8min left, near water treatment>See someone get a snitch on them at the lock room between substation and elevator>Sneak up on them, completely out of LOS>He sits there and holds the place for 3 minutes>Wondering what the fuck he's doing, i push>As soon as i do he opens the southern door>i veer around to the left, enough that he can't open up>I then sprint and swing the door he opened>He's lagging dicks- can't react to me for maybe 5-6 burletta shots>after he gets out of a panic dodge roll he lazerbeams my head>It's not enough and i get the finish>His inventory suggests he killed anywhere from 3-5 peoplethat anon who said cheating is an IQ issue was right
is there anyone who knows the lore of the game? i skipped every single cutscene of the quests, but from the few seconds i got it seems like they were about exploring topside and what killed the barons and finding out there were other human enclaves like speranza and making efforts to contact them?
>>548295230https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW6kqK7gp3I
>>548293879I don't have any of those, just the 2 safe pocket one
I just killed a stream holy shit>heard someone on the other side of a door >"oh my god [some name I don't remember] thank you for the raid!!">"we're just sitting in here waiting for that robot to leave">I run past the shredder>stick him with a nade>deadvery funny
>>548293879>>548295663oh I see the 3 pocket one now
>>548295768Was it a girl? I hope it was.
>>548295768a streamer*
>>548295768If you remembered the name it would redirect to their channel and you could get their PoV
>>548295663>>548295815yeah for whatever reason the devs thought an epic backpack should be on the same level as a rare one. great logic lmao
Any skill tree tips for new raiders?I heard that the security lockers got nerfed a lot so people regretted pathing there but then I also still see a lot of people going for it so I'm not sure if it's still the playat the moment I just got "Used to the Weight" and "Proficient Pryer" in the green tree, "Marathon Runner" and "Youthful Lungs" in the yellow tree and the combat crafting in the red tree
>>548285805The power rod room on dam is good, but streamers keep telling people about it
>>548257632ever hear of pre-fire?
>>548295551Climate change fucks up world, humans fight each other, rich humans go on a one way rocket to mars, poor humans stay on earth and go underground. years pass, humans emerge topside and find it cool, first wave of robots come, humans fight them off, second wave of robots come humans flee back underground.
>>548295878nah it was some britbong dude>>548295971DANG yeah I should have clipped it, unfortunate
>>548296007I used to hit it up til a week ago when some 1m youtube sub channel made a vid on it now its looted if i dont spawn close.
>>548295992i got the first 5 points in conditioning to remove the movement speed penalty, the first 27 points in mobility (since most of the next ones are bugged and do nothing), rest will go into survival because faster looting, less looting noise, in-game crafting (huge on freekits and bad custom runs, being able to craft bandages / impact nades is huge)
>>548295107That'd be sick, having three or four barons on a map
>>548296064i seegayer than i imagined
>>548291790People say yes, but I haven't gotten jack shit
Do you remember the last time you hit unload backpack and had a clean inventory?I feel like it's been forever.
>>548296739I havent used unload in like 2 weeks its easier to sort and break down each trip manually for me
>>548295992>I heard that the security lockers got nerfed a lotthey're still OP.
So it's universally agreed, two full boxes of ammo for each of your guns?
>>548297051Half a stack of light ammo for my one gun (hairpin), and a couple impact grenades
>>548296373That's what your dad said when you were born
>>548242875The black square here on Dam has a car you can loot which always has two light bulbs in it
>>548295992Security lockers are still goat for gun materials they almost always shit out gunparts light to complex, mod components and most the trash in them breaks down into nice components for guns aswell on top of good chance at green and blue guns that break down into again more gun components they just dont shit out free purple guns anymore
>>5482970513-4 for my torrente1 for my anvil/ferro
>>548297315Where are these so called security lockers found, friendo?
>>548297291I honestly feel like the embark niggers actually coded individual drop tables for every container
>>548297051Full stack and also a secondary stack just big enough to full load the magazine. It's made a difference for me a few times.Fucking retarded that you have to do it manually like that, though.
>>548297434They're just around. Sometimes they're in high value locations, other times it's random attics. If you look at the interactive maps online, the spawns are posted. One set of examples is that the guard towers on spaceport all have one
>>548295768HOLY KEKhttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2630976954?t=1h55m37sHe even roasted my Steam profile, how mean
>>548297779KEK nice.Anon delivers.
>>548297434They have the same set spawns every game theres probably security locker location maps for each one already.
>>548297779all I'm seeing are two faggots, what's the funny bit
>>548272738thanks for the suggestionthere were 5 raider corpses in the cafeteria but apparently nobody got into the room (or it restocked?)
I hope Embark is working on some weapon tier balance changes. I should not feel more safe using a fucking stitcher of any tier than a tier 4 tempest or bobcat.Embark should take a look at The Cycle Frontier. The game died for various reasons but using good loot felt GOOD and getting a come-up from a white SMG to a purple AR felt even better. This is simply how things should be. White kits should be able, but unlikely, to kill players with good gear. White kits should never ever be straight up better than high tier kits.
>>548293171I know its confirmation bias, but my second run with the Looting Mk3 Cautiousa Silenver IIIa Extended Barreland a Silencer II blueprint
>>548297465areas have general designations that are often not noted on the map.There are "auspicious" containers that are boosted compared to others. my guess is that they added a "raider loot" designation to them, but i really can't say for sure what the actual droprate booster affecting them is.
https://youtu.be/tEBr0XRG0lE
>>548298374killing streamers is inherently funny
>>548297779>WHO THE FUCK IS BUBBO
Only thing I got from this whole room was a snow globe.
>>548298667Imagine just playing for fun.
>>548298667cohh will be the voice of reason that saves this gamewhen the hecking wholesome family streamer has issues with the game you know you need to change things up
>>548298759Theres a side room good for electrical components but ive never gotten anything good out of breach wooden boxes in that area
>>548298558i find good attachments too but bp's are way better
>>548298718yes but no-mic niggers are also faggots
>>548299036I'm not too focused on them since the expedition is soonjust trying to increase my stash value now, since they're obviously waiting to see where everyone in the community is at before actually saying a numbergoing to feel like shit when it's like>yea it's 1 million per skill point
>>548299065truemy excuse is that I've just been sick and my throat is screwed
>>548297779the norwood on that g uy is crazy loleven polish dudes are like>lmao
I waited and about to start my bracket today, I wonder if I will have sweats filtered out
>>548297779God that streamer looks and sounds like such a faggot. Good job sticking his face with a nade
>>548297779protip join his stream next time hes live and talk about how you killed him for an extra reaction lol
>>548263215think for yourself
>>548291619No, would I be right to assume you don't play many PvP games? Because this is one of the chiller ones especially in solos.
why am i still playing this
>>548295230>>548295370thanks for confirming my suspicions, go back to BF6 cancer.
>>548299974I only play it because the movement and gunplay is funProgression and gear is a crap shoot
>>548297779>The cheeky little peek around the door just to chuck a nade at him while the bot locks onto his ass>"Come on, bot, lets go get him.">Bot ends up killing him>Seethes for like three minutes straightGreat clip.
>having a slow round on night buried city>all my normal spots have been ratfucked>see a dude running, decide to follow him quietly>he dips into the town hall using his key>wait a minute, then enter>stalk him inside, eventually ambush and kill him>steal his gucci lootfeels fuckin GOOD bros. he was just sprinting the entire way there not looking around at all. i think he wanted to wait until 10min and just sneak in at the end. thanks for the key and loot my dude.
>in blue gate security wing>hear a guy moving around>seems like he's looking for me>we both end up stalking eachother without seeing one another for a few minutes>eventually we come face to face>both of us start blasting>some poor sod comes out of a door way the same time we start shooting and he gets double teamed by both of us in the crossfirekek sometimes this game is alright
as a pve man ive come to realize this game just makes me want to play a single player loot game like diablo or an mmo. are other extraction shooters like this?
>>548298667Holy shit all those dad gamer comments who play 1 hour a week recoiling at someone who dares to criticize the game
>sending in clips can payout up to 2400 in tokens
>>548298667you can tell this guy gets fucked in the ass
>>548300558>top 3imagine how many people are sending in clips
>>548300428
>>548300652you're not seeing the bright side, these swedes aren't just reposting streamer clips but these are real actual people. so far that, I think its fun
>>548300410>are other extraction shooters like this?Depends on what you mean. Other extraction shooters are even more focused on PvP and generally more punishing for dying and/or ever getting caught off guard. This game is pretty relaxed in comparison. If the issue is the loot itself though then stuff like Tarkov has way better shit you can find and gearing up is more important.
>>548300725I hate these people
>>548300410Tarkov has a PvE modeIf you want a looter shooter in 3rd person the Division is alright
>>548300725>pvp is optionallol. lmao.
>>548300929>>548301036I should have been more clear. I enjoy PvP but I don't see much of a reason for it in this game. I was really wondering if other games at least provide reason to make both PvP and the PvE/looting experience worthwhile. As it stands, I feel like Arc doesn't really get much out of PvP (even though its pretty fun) because ultimately I won't gain much useful from it. I want to play a game where there are things to work towards as a PvE player and as a PvP player you can decide to get ahead by shooting people in the neck instead of being a regular grinder. Does that make sense?
>>548301308how pvp freekit kike niggers look like
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1p9utv4/why_are_you_the_way_that_you_are/
>>548301569>>548301308You seem to be lost. This is 4chan.
>>548301308with how little there is to do in arc raiders it's genuinely surprising they let you run endless free kits
what is the point of the anvil splitter?
>>548301690but I like laughing at redditors with my 4chinz bros
They need to limit the spawn windows to 30m and 18m. The fact that there are spawns at 30m, 28m, 26m, 24m, 22m, 20m and 18m is fucking insane. It never ends.
>>548301690imagine actually browsing this turd subreddit, let alone reddit at all.
fix ttk fix ttk fix ttk fix TTK
>>548301861you can spawn as late as ~15m
>>548298667Anthony Fantano pedophile phenotype, clearly a devious and untrustworthy person
>>548302037Grim
>>548302037how do you know? ive never spawned later than 17 as far as i know
retard reddit dad gamers>DUDE WTF WHY ARE YOU EXTRACT CAMPING*some retarded overly complex bounty system for people who PvP*>also freekits are fine>yes greys should not be changed
is the honeymoon unironically over?
>>548301934why are they doing that? why not just... let people discuss the game in the way they want to discuss the game? i dont understand what the point of view is to suppress a valid criticism of a video game...
>>548301812make you split your dick in half when you realize 75% of the purple/gold items in this game suck massive ballsThe definitive "good" purple/gold item list>wolfpack>deadline>cloak>snaphook>kinetic converter>silencer 3>extended barrel>mk3 survivor>vita sprayEverything else can be safely thrown into the garbage
>>548302168it's been over for a week
>>548302303What's good about extended barrel? I unironically view it as useless vs even any of the green barrel attachments.
>>548299974I just really really love shooting the Anvil.
>>548302168It's gradually endingAs said weeks ago, the people with 100h+ immediately pointed out all the obvious issues and we're now waiting for the normies to catch up and come to the same conclusionHopefully the swedistan devs get the hint before the next expedition
>>548301569Anti-white pieces of shit, browns aren't human
>>548302168This is my first time playing a flavor-of-the-week game like this but it's pretty insane how fast it blew up and died
This might be the best BP for its creation cost in the game. mostly because voltage converters only other real use is purple shields and who the fuck is making them willingly?
>>548302272Some sort of weird reddit culturalism where if the same topic gets updooted too hard too frequently while also being a contentious topic, the subreddit jannies decide to start corraling that topic into a pinned megathread to let other things get updooted on the hot/top board instead.Combine that with being obviously biased towards one way or the other on the issue and you get this behavior.
>>548302443Good on long range one shot weapons (ferro/osprey/anvil) since they don't care about recoil or bloom much at all. Also can be used for Torrente to make your bullets fly out faster so you don't get diff'd by a stitcher, really good with kinetic converter on the torrente as well. High velocity also affects flying arc in a major way. For instance the Osprey is a high velocity weapon, the higher velocity your shots have the more flying arc (including the shredder) get knocked backwards and lose their balance. You can use a high velocity weapon to knock a shredder back like 20 feet in a single shot, even knock them into other rooms with people camping inside. Also a little fun thing to do is that you can solo kill a Rocketeer with an Osprey thanks to this without taking a single shot. Just pull it from far away and spam shoot it's thrusters. It will get knocked back so much that it takes it minutes to fly over to where you are at and you can take out both thrusters before it even makes it close enough to target you.But apart from those niches it isn't "the best" it's just that those 1 shot weapons with slow fire rate don't really get anything from muzzle brake or compensator, only silencer and extended barrel help them at all.
>>548281063nothing that i know of, but the dude said it'll be dead by feb
>>548302168as a man-wife of 3 cats i can tell you i dont see the issues. arc raiders rocks!i just did an epic quest to repair the roofs on bluegate and im having a blast.
How big is the bloom on an Anvil with Splitter if you have a Compensator 3 on it? Can you effectively turn it into a slug?
>>548295517jesus, i hope you reported his fucking arse. You sure he wasnt a console shitter who abused auto-aim on console to get a quick head-shot position?
>>548303334Yes, it's pretty fuckin' tight with comp 3 at 50-100m and becomes unreliable after that. I feel like everyone would like to run anvil splitters, but no bp for it existing is painful, and very questionable.
>>548303631Which attachments don't have a BP? I feel like I've never seen a silencer3 bp (then again I've never seen the actual attachment in game either), shotgun silencer, or kinetic.
>>548302867Fair but then why make them when utility slots are so valuables
>>548303456Console players usually don't have VPN levels of latency causing the massive reality gap on both ends. It's possible, but i doubt it.
>>548303110Oh I didn't realize bullet velocity affected arc impact that much, that's cool.>only silencer and extended barrel help them at allYeah that's why I asked, making you less likely to draw additional aggro (arc or raider) just feels too good to pass up. Maybe I'd like extendeds more if I could get a blueprint of them.
>>548301457I can't think of anything like that. The closest in another game I can think of would be like ratting in Tarkov where you essentially avoid PvP as much as humanly possible and skulk your way around for loot, which is a valid playstyle and you can progress that way, but this is the only extraction shooter where anybody would even really call themselves a PvE player when they go online. And frankly even that will probably fade away more and more as PvE players get bored or frustrated and get better about dealing with bots.
should i give these blueprints to my friends who started playing today all make them go through the harvester thing themselves to earn their badges
Aren't BPs supposed to drop in red areas? I've looted an entire building top to bottom in Spaceport, every single drawer and breach and I only received crap.
>>548303826Shotgun silencer and kinetic both exist and are stupidly rare, i think Silencer 3 exists with the same rarity too. As far as i can tell, it's just anvil splitter. The new nades (seeker, the explosion trail one, i think pulse mine too) all have no bp as well.Shit like springs and simple parts not having a bp is also asinine.
>>548304145Someone said in Sweden "Loot Value: High" just means "There is a lot of loot in here :)"
>>548304137*or make them
>>548304145I dont think area matter honestlyI seem to find them in any container, residential seem to be the best, but I suspect it's because it statistically has a millions containers
Got the Explosive Trap BP. Now I can leave little gifts in locked rooms :3
>>548304550faggot, are you still seething about rats?
>>548304645*Ignores you*
>>548302768>only thing setting the game apart from the average extraction-slop is the grass roots friendly chungus atmosphere>ostensibly we're supposed to be encouraged to team up the queen/matriarch and even bastions/rocketeers>no mechanics whatsoever to encourage camaraderie>criminally fast TTK that basically makes every friendly player easy pickings for anyone who just wants to shoot first>rat ambushes are the name of the game since headshots do a gorillion damage and you can casually wallhax peek around corners with third person camera and delete someone the instant that they dare to touch a container>shields do fucking nothing>no reason to use rare gear since greys are inexplicably S-tier>niggers on welfare get guns that can delete you in less than a second>friendly players are gradually quitting or getting jaded as they get ganked>streamers throw fuel on the fire by encouraging their zoomer minions to kill everyone on sight with their dumb fuck 67 bungalator shit>no PvP balance patches in sight beyond a lovetap that changed the undeniably best gun in all situations to debateably the best gun in 90% of situations>massive fucking nerfs to PvE players, who were the only ones with any meaningful gear progression/risk in the first place>meta tactics for getting good loot isn't to leverage rare gear, it's to sprint to the 2 hard-coded good containers on the map nude and shove the loot up your anus.>swedes about to go on vacation for six weeksThings are grim.
>>548304145The loot designation is what matters >>548298642Because residential loot and raider loot designations have naturally higher bp chances(that were greatly nerfed in a previous patch).Keyrooms and breach rooms tend to up the rarity of the BP naturally, which is part of what caused bettina bps to be far too common.
>>548303898actually they often do, as the inherent dogshit specs of consoles create an automatic lag issue in multiplayer, especially with the hard-dedicated servers of Arc.Don't get me wrong, we all know theres cheaters, but in all crossplay shooter games i play i've seen console users do that quick snap effectively. (helldivers 2 and Arc)
>>548304751*flies past*
>>548304145The yellow and red zones don't intrinsically matter. It generally just means that there is a locked room in that area somewhere. The rest of the fucking containers in there are no better than the containers in bumfcuk gas station #4845
>>548303841showstoppers are a top 3 grenade
PvE mode would be kino to be honest, PvP trannies be damned.
>>548305329exactly, i wanna fight an Emperor with the entire server and 0 PvP bullshit, it'd be a fucking experience imagine that fucking beast using both Queen + Matriarch movesets and more ..beautiful
>>548305612>it'd be a fucking experience>hides behind a window to mitigate all damagewow such an experience!
>>548305845You don't have to hide behind a window, anon
>>548305845yeah good look hiding behind a window with 20 people around you, see how that goes, have you even played against a Queen or Matriarch? fucking retarded pvp nigger
>>548305329as a sometimes kosnigger, i wouldn't mind a pve mode as long as its done tastefully and doesn't suck. like right now there isn't much of a reason to not kill everyone you meet unless there's several teamed up. make it matter, like helldivers where you can't get shit done without teaming up, otherwise theres really no incentive
>>548304304>youtuber who got like a 3-4k person survey detailing what blueprints they found and where they found them for data collecting>only 8 results for shotgun silencer>0 for kinetic>0 for silencer 3Goddamn
>>548306017I have it and it really is the least useful blueprint of its rarity. i got rngscammed.
Utility Augment Slots should include all utility items instead of just deployables. Feels so fucking retarded being limited to 5 slots and then 1 jolt mine or barricade slot. Let me put my snaphook there. Let me put my cloak there. Let me put my flute there.
>>548295118What the fuck are you talking about>Have to treat it like an esportWhere did you get that from you schizo>Turn off VCWHERE IS THAT COMING FROMI try and be diplomatic with people but half the community seems to have figured out saying "Im friendly dont shoot :)" and then shooting you in the asshole is a ticket to free loot, so proximity chat has quickly turned into just a tool for flaming or for memes>There is no endgame>Weapon balance is fucked>There is nothing to work towards>Loot is meaninglessDebate this you retard
Just make it so Queen/Matriarch events are STRICTLY PvE so people can actually engage with that content.
>>548306008>like helldivers where you can't get shit done without teaming up???
>>548307464People on here are not very good at video games, anon...
Is the tactical 2 augment good because of that smoke effect when shields pop?
>>548307743Probably the most useful combat augment despite not being a combat augment
God damn this game went from a social experiment style game where you don't have to kill every other player you meet and "the robots are the real villains, but some people are bastards"To>There is literally zero reason not to just say "Dont shoot!" and then kill someone for their lootSo fucking fast.And the ironic part is people are doing this for loot to sit in their stash because you don't really need to fuck around with non grey weapons to begin with.Its this weird mish mash of>There is no reason to work together>But there is no reason to kill each other because the loot isnt that valuable>Theres no reason to do anything at all because the loot isnt that valuableWhat the fuck were the swedes thinking releasing like this
>load into bunker>head towards the closest antenna>walk into another guy>he shots me>I shot him>he dies>some other guy in a tower starts shooting me>another guy comes >guy in tower starts telling the other guy not to trust me>he's a rat! he killed a guy!so now I'm going to be hunted by like half the server because of this retard
>>548307861most users of that augment are too stupid to do anything after the smoke pops so i just keep magdumping into the same spot and still get a knockdown. if you run that augment, dodgeroll immediately after the smoke pops, or just do anything to move out of the way.
>>548308016>What the fuck were the swedes thinking releasing like thisWhere should I go for this month's vacation?
>>548308016This is why friggers need to be eliminated and gear needs to be rebalanced.
>>548307743its good if ur not an npc. several times ive run into people using that augment and used theri smoke AGAINST them in close quarters. very double edged sword.
>>548304137take them through the harvester, don't water down their achievements.
>>548308016>>548308269Fixing the game:Combat stuff>Reduce the headshot multiplier on grey weapons>Freeniggers restricted to the rattler I and hairpin I>all offensive quickuse items removed from freeniggers (field crafted impacts and fireballs/wasp drivers are RIGHT THERE you lazy fucks.)>shield effectiveness increased across the board>active shields fully negate headshot bonuses>blue shields receive an additional bonus vs buckshot and light ammo, while pink ones gain a bonus against medium as well>TTK now has wiggle room for higher rarity weapons to receive some buffsRNG bullshit>Reverse Engineering Projects so that players aren't at the whims of RNG to get gear. They work as follows:>consume one copy of a craftable item to start a reverse engineering project>begins an expedition-style project where you are given a series of shopping lists of assorted items>upon completion, you receive the BP>intensity of a reverse engineering project varies based on rarity. Individual recipes can be individually balanced.Players receive a means to make incremental advancements towards a desired blueprint without being utterly at the whims of blueprint RNG. Assorted junk-loot retains value long after we're done upgrading workbenches. BPs remain valuable and exciting finds because they instantly unlock the recipe without needing to go grind another batch of rusted gears. Embark can directly balance the project requirements to prevent reverse engineering from invalidating BPs.
>>548307743A youtuber made this tier list and I mostly if not completely agree with it. The augments are not balanced particularly well (Like most of the game's gear) and Mk. 2 Tactical is definitely up there as overall one of the best if not the best. Nothing else comes close in terms of combat advantages and defensive utility.
>>548308043Kino.
just picked up an asian ladyboy with voicechanger 3 times from the same rocketeer and then extracted with 3 other lads
Shotgun Silencer does exist. I'm actually tempted not to do my caravan because of how valuable this is. It basically makes me into the silent death in Stella Montis.
>>548298558Are you suggesting that the looting augment itself increases droprate?
>>548308913I leaned into it, I've killed 3 people and I'm considering going into the bunker just to blast people and die in a blaze of glory
I like it
>>548309537It's ridiculous on a Vulcano and I'm still mad about the kitted Vulcano with a suppressor I lost to a Rocketeer
the most useless item in the game that i've been collecting like a fucking retard
>light gun parts are ONLY used for bobcat and burletta IV and for complex gun partsshifting some of the upgrades on shittier guns from mech components/simple gun parts into this would be a benefit
Today i will convert my stash into kitted guns
>>548308616Combat Flanking being B tier seems kind of weird. I mean I know it isn't Survivor or Tactical2, but being able to whip out a venator 33% faster after magdumping with your primary seems really strong especially if your opponent is also switching weapons or reloading.
>>548310357Its limited to a light shield i think most pvpers prefer mediums.
>>548310269And promptly lose them all to rats
>>548310481I will only bring them out for trios
>>548310357But venator is the best primary???
>go into stella with free kit>kill like 4 people and get out with what little I can carry>go in with modded vulcano>get fourth partied almost immediately in a massive shit fest and lose itevery time. I just want to be a murder machine in stella once but it's like all the niggers can smell my loot.
>>548309651nice tits
>>548310656I just go in with hairpins and a few impacts. If I get out it's great. If I die, who cares?
>>548308616tactical mk2 is not Smakes it harder for friendlies to assist you, makes it harder for you to acquire target to return firemaybe if shields lasted more than 0.1s so you could actually know where you're getting shot from before it blinds you
where do i get level 2 attachment BPs
>>548308616The passive of Combat mk2 makes it better than this. The passive healing is pretty good
>>548311050My ass, it's right around my prostate so just move your fingers around for a while I'll let you know when you've found one
>>548308616looting 1 should be in D
>>548310631Anon, you aren't dual wielding Venators and getting 33% faster swaps every time?>>548310458>combat augment>light shield onlyGoddamn, well I had no idea. What a garbage game
>>548297779>open mic talking nonsense>eating candy holy kek, i laughed
>>548311105I've found it to be glacial and terrible. Much faster to craft a Grey bandage with cloth.
>>548309907>losing suppressors is a problemlollmao
So how does Expedition work? I gather up all these resources and then I choose to do it or does it force me in if I get everything? Will it all happen at once and anyone who misses the boat gets fucked? If that's the case, what if we find out you get like 100 extra stash spaces, but once you find out (from the people who do it) it's then too late to do it yourself?
>>548310357Three issues>Light shields only >Limited inventory space compared to the bog standard Mk 3. Looting (Cautious) augment which can also only run light shields>Its bonus is marginal because you dont really need to be switching weapons to kill someone, kettle and stitcher mag dumps already kill peopleThe passive effects are just not that impactful in combat situations across the board, Mk 2. Tactical is the only one that has any actual bearing on a fight
SHOUT OUT TO THE BRAVE MOTHERFUCKER WHO DEFIBD ME TWICEI GAVE HIM ALL MY BASTION CELLSLETS GOOOOOOOOOOO>>548309558yes, but everyone tells me that's not true, so...
>>548311850It's completely voluntary
>>548311889>>Its bonus is marginal because you dont really need to be switching weapons to kill someone, kettle and stitcher mag dumps already kill peopleIt also allows you to just pull out a pistol faster from empty hands as well. Good for those situations where you sprint around a corner and all of a sudden a dude is shooting at you.
>>548311850Nobody knows the most important details, but ftom what we know it's supposed to a short window where we can depart. A lot of players are hoarding dupe BPs and planning to coordinate expeditions and BP trades to carry BPs forward.>player A gives BP stash to trusted player B>player A wipes>PLAYER B trades BP stash to A>A learns BPs>player B wipes>player A trades stash to player B>player B learns BPs.
>>548311249All the Mk1s are C tier because of how cheap they are and how little they put you at risk using them. >>548311105The passive healing from either of the health regen augments is borderline unnoticeable. They may as well not exist considering a single piece of fabric heals faster.>>548310959You have hit markers telling you where you're being shot from and the ability to instantly reposition where the enemy cant trace you with a dodge roll when the smoke goes off. It gives you more info than the enemy has and gives a moment to break behind cover.No other passive effect comes close to that level of use. The Looting Survivor one is sort of nearly as impactful, but it relies on you getting downed and being near an ally that can help/being near an exit as a solo and nobody finding you. Its still incredibly situational, just ever so slightly more useful than all the other useless effectsBasically my assessment is, when you look at how poorly thought out the passives and balancing on the augments are, it tells you the quality of the devs "balancing ability". As in, its a bit shit
>use key>close door>place mine>start looting>some guy runs near the door and spams "don't shoot">wait around for a couple minutes after cleaning it out>he's still sitting outside saying "don't shoot">eventually leave and shoot his ass dead>he gets mad and asks why I shot himNigger why are you fucking camping me, go away
>>548312192Im only doing it with the wolfpack since that shits great for fucking big arcs and swarms instantly
>killing bastian solo>doing pretty good just switching between doors and popping weakpoints>some retard joins me>shoot at the bastian with me in front>shoot me in the back of the head>spams "sorry"heyretardmaybe don't stand behind people and shoot things, like what the fuck, its like some people never shot a gun before
>>548312054That is the situation where its useful, but it wont let you pull out a gun fast enough to beat someone with a gun already out. And if your guns already out, it doesnt do anything.I'd put it in the tier of >Its nice, but relatively unimpactful
>>548312310tac mk2 is terrible indoors in squads, it's only S tier solo
There should be 0 late spawns at all. If I kill a guy, I should be rewarded with having 1 less person around the map to threaten my existence and/or steal my loot. Not only that, but the thinking of the devs is "hurr spawn late, that means it's a pvp round!" except the only thing anyone cares about are blueprints and those get immediately stuffed up the ass. And 9/10 times you go to kill someone if you spawn late, you are just killing some freekitter shitter who also spawned late and then your flare alerts the 10 other freekitter shitters skulking around the zone and brings them to you. There is nothing to gain by doing pvp. You aren't guaranteed to kill someone who looted all the things that are empty, especially since they can extract at literally any point in the match. So why the fuck am I spawning in late? Just to enjoy a half empty map and a freekit death orgy? Every day raid I enter after 25m I immediately just hatch key out and go again. Every night raid I just go hunting, but everyone I kill is a freenigger. Everything is so aids.
>>548312548How can a neutral effect be "terrible".It blocks enemy sight as much as friendly sight and the enemies are the ones shooting and on the aggressor path
>>548312570it might change, but I doubt it, it's just part of the extraction shooter they had in mind>queue in late>guess I have to go murder someone and take all their stuffit sounds fine in practice, but everyone is friendly solo so you just end up feeling like an asshole, or you turn voice off like a sociopath
>>548312570Freenigger kits should be terrible at pvp. Remove their grenades and give them rattler 1 or hairpin 1. I am tired of their rabid senseless aggression.
Remove late spawnsQuadruple the amount of players that spawn at the startNow it'll be an epic battle to get any little bit of loot.
>>548308616I have the cautious looting mk 3 but don't remember looting it, do you get it for free from a mission or leveling the bench or something?
>>548312764Extractions should only open up after 15 minutes have passed. That way people who spawn late get a chance at least getting something. There is no point to spawning late when the people who spawned at 30 minutes already looted every good building and then early extracted before you even spawned in.
>>548312570>>548308513Arc Raiders needs to go the Marathon route:Freekits should ONLY be available for people without enough resources in their stash to put together an actual kit (e.g. no weapon, no ammunition and no cash/materials to make ammo/weapon)If you lack the ability to put together a basic naked stash like that, the game automatically gifts you one freekit you can equip and take into one game. Once you return to the lobby, you have enough to put a kit together, you have to use your own shit.Its like how people didnt wanna use Keys while people were just glitching through doors. I dont wanna use my loot whilst people are just playing risk free and plinking off 60% of my hp in a single ferro shot and chucking grenades at meA freenig can sometimes get the ELECTRO STUN MINE, a rare deployable you need a blueprint to craft, along with a grey gun, then just go camp an exfil spot and steal someone else's loadout. Its bullshit power levels for zero risk whatsoever whilst others actually play the game
>>548312701Because it isn't neutral. If you're in a gunfight and you're winning it but suddenly your teammate's shield pops and it drops a smoke, you are the one who will now need to push through the smoke. Indoors it can block an entire hallway and help your enemy reposition, get away or hold an angle while you push through smoke. It's complete shit.That tier list abysmal dogshit either way. The defensive tac augment's usable is not good and aggressive is pretty mediocre as well. Basically carry weight and quick slots >>>>> everything else, except for tac 2 in certain scenarios. Putting actual augments with free kit is also pants on head retarded.
>>548309537doesn't really matter how quiet you are in stella when the walls are loud and you can't shoot back
>>548313071How I understand it works is if a team or player dies, then they get replacedSo it's not so much a time thing, I guess it's a population thing
>>548311850You turn everything in then sometime in December the expedition window will open and you'll have a week to decide if you want to accept it. I'm not sure what happens if you don't*, it might just say GG and you gave up all those items for nothing.
>hear a guy running towards my location>hide behind a counter>shoot him as he gets closer>DUDE STOP CAMPING>GO PLAY TARKOV>he was a free kitter toowhy do people get so mad when they die even as a free kit, and especially when they play like there's zero danger
>>548312570I think the late spawns should be limited, I'm curious how many times* a death can be replaced within a certain window of time. I know around 18-15m there's like a stop gate where no one can spawn in anymore.But how many does do they actually replace someone if they surrender immediately after being downed. I do think they could try a map mode where you load in at the top of the round and anyone who dies, that's it. If you're the last alive the entire map is yours
>>548312952Looting Mk3. (Cautious) is the only Mk3 augment that comes preloaded with your Gear Bench. All you have to do is upgrade to tier 3 on the bench iirc.Which is why it's B tier in hindsight. It does exactly what it says on the tin:>70kg weight limit (massive)>24 backpack slots + 2 safepockets (massive - nearly perfect if it had 3 safepockets)>5 Quick use slots (Not quite as useful as some of the more specialised ones with integrated special slots but still more than you need)If your goal is to get into the game, sneak around and hoover up as much loot as possible wholst engaging in minimum combat, is pretty good for it, and has a little combat utility with all the quick use slots and the weak adrenaline shot passive.Its just that if you want to stay SAFER, and have a better chance in fights, there are better augments for it. And thats probably more important overall than just having a ton of slots for loot because that means nothing if you dont extract.Cant go too wrong with a Hatch Key and the Cautious augment though for avoiding players and arc style gameplay
>>548313617low iq behavior involves being unable to comprehend and getting upset when someone plays in a way that they lose to. it can be annoying to lose to someone playing unorthodox/suboptimal and therefore catching you offguard with an irregular/bad play, however, at the end of the day its your job to win via counterplay if you want to win. this kills the brainlet.
>>548313269>If you're in a gunfight and you're winning it but suddenly your teammate's shield pops and it drops a smoke, you are the one who will now need to push through the smoke.And equally if you're losing, the enemy has to push through the smokeAlso: Smoke can help you push because you can get closerLike that can be situationally helpful or a hindrance either way but the guy who just got shield depleted aint complaining about no longer being a target no matter what way you look at it.If you're winning a fight and your teammates shield breaks and a smoke pops, just rush through it with a shotgun/torrente and abuse the smoke cover to finish the enemy off. (assuming in a confined space)
So there's really nothing to do after you download all the data in the bunker?I ran around all over the place trying to look for things to interact with but didn't find anything.
>spawn at 30>instantly get shot by another guy that spawned right next to me>tell him im naked and dont have anything>chuck a red glowstick on him>he gets thrid partied>thank the other guy, we laughit was a freekit ofc
>>548312701NTA but here is a little tip that the "pros" don't want you to know about SmokeYou can literally see right through it like an infrared/xray by just overlapping grenade smoke vfx. Everything from light impact to gas grenades. So as soon as a tac shield pops, you just throw a trigger nade at them and you have like 3 seconds of visibility on the person along with the trigger nade damage.
>nobody's griefed streamers as charles barkley while playing spacejam and throwing endless basketballs trigger nades at themshame
>>548313269>Basically carry weight and quick slots >>>>> everything else,Until a freenigger with a sticher bumrushes you then you'll wish you had literally anything else that wasnt a light shield and zero defensive abilities.>Putting actual augments in with free kit is also retardedThey're worth about the same in value. The green kits get a safepocket, but the freekits are literally free, and none of it is particularly expensive. So the differences are marginal.The fact that the freekit generates you quick use items, a gun, ammo etc. was probably factored into its value
>>548314309Good morning saar
>>548314309There was some link someone posted the other day of a small streamer running duos in Stella where they had an entire inventory full of trigger nades. It was honestly funny as fuck and made me want to do it. But I don't want to go farm a million processors.
>>548314259Damn swedes saved months of animation work with machine learning for movement of raiders/arc and couldnt be bothered to do overlapping smoke vfx properly.
>>548314259DELETE THIS
>>548314403newfag
>>548314105>And equally if you're losing, the enemy has to push through the smokeThe point is that you do not want an unpredictable effect that can affect you negatively. A good team will have smokes either way if they get fucked. An unpredictable effect that can have a negative consequence is worse than just having a positive effect even if miniscule.>>548314352Out of 140 hours I've lost a single squad fight against free kitters and it was from an ambush that was played horribly. Free kits aren't a real thing in squads.>They're worth about the same in value.Nobody gives a shit about value. The augments should be ranked purely by power. It's F for free kit, D for tac and looting 1, and C for combat 1.
>>548312310>All the Mk1s are C tier because of how cheap they are and how little they put you at risk using them.and looting mk1 is the worst of all mk1s
>>548313685>>548312570late spawns are good in the sense that you cannot easily "solve" the game. in hunt showdown, you can count deaths to know youre free from other pvp engagements in that game, but whenever thats the case the game loses its edge and becomes boring and stale. in arc, the large scale and deadly pve enhances the pvp, but as soon as the threat of pvp is gone it too becomes boring. that said, the late spawn is a pain in the ass as you've immediately lost a large chance of positional advantage as it is extremely likely any surviving players have already reaped the rewards of the pvp hotspots and youre left to challenge a potentially entrenched opponent/ pick up scraps around the map. im for the idea of late spawns prioritizing free kits
>>548313803The main problem that I have with it is that it is more expensive than the mk2 looting, and why bother taking any extra risk when a nigger with a stitcher can delete you in an eye blink?
>Figure me and pal could try out the hidden bunker event>We meet a bunch of guys doing an antenna and stick together>Head over to control tower>No one has a zipline for the antenna>The whole server has no zipline>We shuffle around awkwardly and eventually leaveWell that was silly
>>548314652Then make your own tier list
>>548312701wrongenemy could be anywhere in your vision, you can only be in smoke in their vision
Hairpin should get a craftable/rare subsonic ammo type where its untraceable.
>>548314680Does Hunt have a kill feed? Would be hard to count deaths in arc unless you personally hear every flare that goes off. Do we even know how many players spawn in at the start? I've heard anywhere from 15 to 30 from different people.
>>548314772Which is why the youtuber put Looting Mk3 (Cautious) at C tier and Looting Mk2 at B tier.Not only is Mk2 cheaper, but it also has the three extra trinket slots over the useless integrated binoculars of cautious
>>548314779lmao did any of you at least loot before leaving
>>548314996It loses value on an empty featureless plane. It gains value when there are hallways/alleys/etc to retreat to.
>>548315391just a bit while looking for a zipline.
>>548314996If your shield pops first, you're losing and want the cover. If your shield pops second, you're winning and the enemy should be running. I dont think I've ever had a situation where an enemy stood their ground with no shield and actually managed to do enough damage to me to pop my shield back and then have the smoke actually help them. If you're on low hp and the guy you're shooting at desperately (Because you have no cover) disappears in a puff of smoke thats not help for you.If enemies can just mag dump where they were just shooting the smoked target can do exactly the same thing
>>548314996>Autists on /vg/ cant comprehend the situational value of the smoke bomb because all they can visualise is a flat plane and two drones firing full auto on each otherI should have known
>>548314948okS: Survivor, Healing>combination of highest carry weight and/or good quick slots and a decent effect that can be useful occasionallyS-: Tac 2>best solo augment for pvp, good in teams if you run a squad full of shotguns indoors, good if you stick outdoorsA: Agressive, Defensive>heavy shield lmao, worse quick slots and/or weight than the S ranked ones because 5 quick slots + util slot > 2 grenade slots, defensive's effect is not good enough to drop a quick slot forB: Combat 2, Looting 2, Flanking>no reason to run combat 2 over tac 2 ever unless you specifically want heavy shields, 5 extra weight is not good enough for losing slots. flanking and looting both have good slots if you're just running around clicking on containersC: Combat 1>if it's the only way you can access medium shieldD: Looting 1, Tac 1>bad, still better than free shitF: Free>terrible, worst slots no safe pocket. note: free loadout as a feature is imbalanced as fuck because of stitcher and kettle, that doesn't make the augment any good thoughhope this helps
>>548315426then it's even worse, because now after you've retreated your vision of where you came from is blocked by your own smoke, so they can approach you easier
If I have a snaphook and I'm on top of a rocketeer, when it goes to do the flip can I hook onto it and remantle it? I tried just holding space and it looked like it was about to work, but then I got flung off mid mantle animation anyway.Also can I reset the timer on it's flip move by cloaking myself for a second while on top of it?I want to do a silly run where I just mount a rocketeer with a shitload of lure grenades and essentially just taxi the thing around the map terrorizing players, but inevitably I fall off after a minute or two.
>>548315636I win fights all the time just by standing my ground shieldless and mag dumping with il toro 4 against stitchers and ferros
>>548315298hunt has a max number of 12 players in a match and an extremely robust audio system that all the game's mechanics revolve around, if they are using loud enough guns you can pinpoint a gunfight across the (large and detailed) map and recognize which guns they are using, you can write half an essay about it. arc raiders is basically badly copying a lot of things from hunt regarding soundtraps and intended pvp searching but the flares are retarded. the whole loop in hunt is also different with no looting and every team/player ending up in the same place every match for pvp.
>>548315298no kill feed in hunt, you can make safe estimations based on gunshots in the distance but the overall scale of players and map size is much smaller in hunt so its an easy enough task. in regards to arc, the flares make it easy to understand where engagements are but as for counting and tracking kills i would rather stay in the camp of not knowing how many players there are as it would remove a large aspect of what makes it enjoyable for me
>>548316026>arc raiders is basically badly copying a lot of things from hunt regarding soundtraps and intended pvpyou call first person shooters doomlikes too?>flares are retardedi think theyre a fantastic idea (coming from someone who enjoys pvp)
Newfag here. Anyone know what hairstyle this is?
>>548316694probably a future paid one or from battlepass, I don't think we have anything like it yet
>>548315932>I win in my shotguns effective range against non shotgunsYou dont say
>>548316675>i think theyre a fantastic ideawhy? has to be the dumbest mechanic in a looter shooter yet. big come over and kill me sign. how is that a fantastic idea?
>>548316026I hate when people compare it to hunt>it's just like hunt! You die to only a handful of bullets there too>how often do you use a third person camera to safely peek corners in hunt? How often to players interact with loot containers for several seconds to reveal all of the loot in hunt? Aren't the guns in hunt largely classic ye-olde guns like carcanos and revolvers? How often in hunt does a bastion eclipse all audio cues with "breeeeeoooooo. BRRRRRRRRRRRTT!!!" for minutes at a time?>you don't understand it's just like Hunt!
>>548316675>you call first person shooters doomlikes too?i dont know what you are trying to say here, everything from snitches and arcs spotting players to give away your location, the birds that fly upwards when you get too close etc, is pretty blatantly like hunt, i would go as far as arguing that the gun balance is inspired by hunt's reputation for no gear fear in comparison to tarkov>i think theyre a fantastic idea (coming from someone who enjoys pvp)i dont believe you enjoy pvp or have played arc more than 10h
level 75 gear is pretty sickand now i don't look like a rat
>>548317085ntaraider flares are good they allow me to know where to 3rd party
>>548316675>>548317003Not him but>I see flare>If I want PVP - I go to flare>If I dont want PVP, I avoid area>Either way - I am aware a murderer is in the area
>>548317132>black clothes with orange>not looking like a ratAt most you look like an affluent rat.
>>548317132>facemask>asian>girl>dark clothesrat
>>548317058i agree, but other than sheer retardation (i want to give them the benefit of the doubt, since i am white), i dont see any other reason they fucked up a concept this bad, i just think they got all these ideas to casualise an extraction shooter gameloop from hunt, which doesnt translate to a 3rd person shooter, hunt would also be an unplayable game without the insane audio system and wallpen and unique pace of gunplayi guess they already made so much money off of the launch week/month purchases that they dont give a fuck about longevity and letting it die may be more profitable.
>>548317132I've been killed by more faggots in the level 75 set (usually with helmet on) than the Ryders and Ryders: Balaclava Edition
>>548317304>>I see flare>>If I want PVP - I go to flare>>If I dont want PVP, I avoid area>>Either way - I am aware a murderer is in the areathats what the loud ass gun sounds are for. in reality, all it does is let the entire server know, someone died over here, quick go over there 3rd party. the horde of freekitters all congregate and you yourself may have just fought off the guy camping in a corner like a bush wookie but now because of the flare, here come the freekit zombies. its a stupid mechanic.
Will the next deck require paypiggy cuck coins to unlock?
>>548317321>>548317472>>548317593NOOO ITS THE COOLEST COLOR SCHEME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAI guess I'll just have to get bog walker when I get more cashshop points
>>548317770They said there will be poorfag and paid ones
>>548317593samethe level 75 guys are the sweatiest bastards you'll meet
>8 games today>at least 4 of them had a team of cheaters plaguing the lobbyIt's real fuckin' bad right now boys.
>>548318202why are you reposting this, you already posted it.
>>548318390i already quit the game so i dont have new clips sorry
>>548318470then why are you here
>play Stella Montis>kill people because that's the point of the game and there's nothing else to do>sometimes they use voice comms to express how disappointed they are>that's a real person and I just ruined their day>feel bad about it afterwards Such is life as a sensitive young White man.
>>548318221>teamComfy solos stay winning.
PEANUT AND HUTCH LINKED UP!?!?! SNEED IT OR FEED IT?
>>548318575talking to my arg friends ofcourse
>>548318221https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIqHXFkw5kwIt got publicized again and swedes are garbage at their job, so it's just getting worse.
>>548314309this just happened to peanut
>>548318812sneed it
>>548318645There are a couple quests in Stella, personally I just save pvp for squads
>when watching a vtuber peanut is more entertaining and fun than playing arc endgame It's over boys, game's cooked.
How is it that peanut can have open firefights in the middle of spaceport without the entire server instantly blasting him down but I shoot 1 wasp on spaceport and 500 ospreys come out of the towers
>done with project>done all quests>level 75>26 bps>only cosmetic i want is from tryhard 1 which i will get tomorrowif you spawn at 28mins or below and or too far away from the good stuff the map is empty alreadyi dont see the point in playing anymore lads, got a good run out of it but all im doing now is pack 3 defibs in my prison pocket and 5 red glowsticks for ebin trole
>>548318645just do what I do and kill people for the purpose of accelerating the need for gun rebalancingthe more people that die to stitchers and kettles, the more will complain about them
oh people are actually talking and posting about what their streamer friend is doing ok yeah this shit is done
Peanut bros ww@
>>548320189gonna keep crying about it pissboy?
Marathon will save the extraction shooter genre
I do love how queen/matriarch maps are basically now just a pretense for pure pvp while the big boss just awkwardly stumbles around in the distance like a fat down syndrome retard that people try not to make eye contact with so they don't draw its tard rage.
>>548319873the swiss map + balance megapatch will fix everything
>Add bird mechanic that alerts you to nearby players>Sweden decides it can play randomly?????
>>548320868Chat is this true?
>>548319873>>only cosmetic i want is from tryhard 1 which i will get tomorrowwe get all that stuff at the end of the season
Decided to go Spaceport on a matriatch event. I was looking for antiseptic and sentinel firing cores in downed arc pods. Didn't kill a single person. Ran across two other people, but just let them be. Someone was extract camping with trigger nades, but I had the perk where you can defuse that shit : ) Defused it and smoked out extract with 15 seconds left.
>>548320757Paypiggy
>>548319873>the most FOTM of all FOTMs shows up>one month later >i dont see a point in playing anymore
>>548321446Still seething cause you got murked by a paypig skin I see
>>548321443You can get blueprints in those pods?
I'm convinced the only reason why people pull the Matriarch to the launch tower basement is so backstabbers can kill you without as many people witnessing it. What do you mean if she's all the way up against the basement entrance that's the EXACT max distance of my equalizer
>>548321830I don't know, I found 2 blueprints in security breach areas, one in a ammo crate. I found the osprey in a locker.I know in the pods you can find surveyor vaults and sentinel firing cores, that is where I have got the most of mine from. I think I have only killed one surveyor.
>>548321993Also, snapped onto the roof and for like a 1:30 straight had a guy standing right at the bottom of the zip just theorizing how to get up there too. After he realized I was watching him he jumped friendly, hung around shooting nothing for another 2 minutes then finally left. This is truly the best way to run legendaries and the most fun (until I can find out a better set up on Blue Gate, if there is one)
>>548317003>why? has to be the dumbest mechanic in a looter shooter yet. big come over and kill me sign. how is that a fantastic idea?further emphasizes the game isnt just another kill on sight shooter. pvp has consequences
>>548320868>the swiss mapWhat?
>>548313180I'm ok with people having perpetual access to freekits. It's a psychological thing. Some people just don't like risking anything. Maybe they just want to calm down and learn the maps with no risk. The problem is that it should objectively be in their best interest to take a risk bring a real kit. To that end I think freekits should just be utter garbage at PvP. No grenades, and the only weapons that they have access to are the hairpin and rattler. That's enough for self defense against arc, but they're not ganking shit with the hairpin. Or if they do gank someone with the hairpin they probably deserve it.
>>548323174He probably means the snow variants
>>548323174stella montis are tunnels that lead to a new part of the overall map (that you load into maps from), itll require the expedition to access, the new map will be set in switzerland with alps, urban map, valley village map, maybe another. it will have new arcs, new bosses, new gear, balance freekits and make gear progression meaningful and impactful, they'll add a raider sword too.
Just. Put. Freekits. On. A. Timer. Like. Every. Other. Extraction. Shooter.
is the game going to die or not
>>548323049>pvp has consequencesyes how dare you fight back. next time someone shoots at you, just lay down and die. you think the person who wants pvp hates this mechanic? its another case of developers not using their head for two seconds and not thinking of unintended consequences. all it does is promote pvp, not discourage it.
>>548323538>itll require the expedition to accessOh it's a schizoid delusion. Nevermind, carry on little buddy
>>548323615if they dont patch up the obvious problems then yeah, depending on your definition of dying
>>548323538Had me at the first half ngl. >>548323615Yes.
>>548323049>freenigger rushes me>i have to defend myself and kill him AND reload AND potentially use a bandage/charger>AND a dinner bell signal flare alerts the horde of 6 equally eager freeniggers that spawned within 100 metersYeah PVP does have consequences!
>kill a guy in pitched combat (I ambushed him but whiffed half my magazine so we awkwardly combat rolled around each other until one of us fell over)>I now have anywhere from 15-30 seconds to loot him (I have faster loot reveal + additional reveals obviously), parse his high value loot, make room in my inventory, put stuff up my butt and heal be- oh I got shot in the back and died
whats the meta skill tree?
>>548323710Holy fuck you're autistic if you can't see the post for what it is.
>>548321492did you only read the last line?
What is the benefit of each alternate map condition? Magnetic storm doesn't list any benefit.
>>548324516Every alternate map condition naturally has a larger potential loot pool from every lootable source and 2x trial score.
>>548323947something like thisalmost all talents not taken here are either not working or not doing much of anything
>>548323630>>548323773fuck didn't realize there were a bunch of women here
>>548324725>not taking 5/5 2x loot revealCome on dude, at 5/5 that shit hits like 60% of the time it's actually really goated to minimize reveal time.
the rattler is kinda fun to use. i mean loading every bullet in an assault rifle is ass but it's a fun little quirk somehow
>>548324814both loot reveals on survival are taken?
>>548324817>can't down someone in one maggotta upgrade it to get any resemblance of usability out of it, atleast it is cheap to do so as opposed to the server slam, also being able to top up without emptying is neat
>>548324886Sorry I'm retarded I was looking at the wrong skill.
>>548324949>>548324817Rattler IV with the horizontal grip is actually pretty good, like a solid C+ backup gun to pair with something like a kettle or burletta.
>>548324794>defending yourself is a woman's mindset>>>/r9k/
>>548325104I just can't see a reason to run it over a kettle, esp with my secondary being a ferro/anvil/renegade/osprey
>>548325142>defending yourself is womanlycorrect, you should always be on the offence
>>548325220I mostly run it just to mix things up plus its fun to dog on people with it.
>>548304872This is a good one.
>>548324516Storm has less sound (can't hear shit), arc don't see you as much outside and loses interest in chasing you faster, also can get zapped. Every raider not in a building has to move around, so less bush camping I guess ? Also you get crashed probes and couriers everywhere. It's a cool setting when you don't get your ass fried up.
>>548325307if they gave it the option to take a mag mod then i'd consider it, iirc to down a med shield you need rattlerIII and not whiff a single shot
>>548325452people who say this game has fast ttk haven't actually played a modern fps
>>548325620It doesn't matter if the TTK is 0.2 seconds or 0.6 seconds, the end result is that both of those TTKs are unactionable on the receiving end, thus no real difference.
>>548325620>>548325783the ttk is high enough to not be one shot, and its low enough to reward superior positioning/timing, there is nothing wrong with it
>found extended light mag III bpHoly shit, now I feel like a god with the Kettle. Can wipe out a duo without even reloading, fucking stupid that grey scrap weapons can be so strong.
>>548324725cheers
>>548325914>completely glossing over the TPP advantages and the inherent qualities of a full-loot game benefitting from higher, more actionable TTKThe only thing this game fixes is the oneshot headshots due to how shields work, everything else is functionally the same.
RIP SERVERS
>>548325914There is something wrong but it's mainly with grey unupgraded garbage being too strong relatively while medium and heavy shields aren't strong enough. I looked at some of the footage in their making of vids and shields used to have way more pips and seemed to tank more damage. The entire purpose of looter shooters is that you get stronger with more gear but in this shit it's basically fucking flat, you run medium shield and that's it.
>>548326179tpp has nothing to do with it nigger, tpp is like fpp with predefined rules and fundamentals. the difference between low gear and high gear only matters in a fair fight between equally skilled opponents where it narrowly comes down to a gear diff. if you have the jump on someone with higher gear and you dont kill them then thats on you.
>>548326484>tpp is like fppDon't speak ever again
>>548325307I actually enjoy the meme guns a lot. The Torrente is fun as fuck to Dakka someone, though its useless at range.The Kettle is like a makeshift DMR. I wish it fired medium instead of light.Renegade as well, a IV you can just mash left click and shit out bullets.I've also gotten into some shenanigans with the Burletta
>>548326484>tpp is like fppYou clearly did not play MGO2 back in the PS Triple days. The ganks in this game give me instant flashbacks to shotgun corner campers.
>>548326427Sorry I breach everything. The cooling fans are mine.
>>548326587>>548326897nice reading comprehension, let me spoonfeed you nigger. fpp has predefined rules and fundamentals. tpp ALSO has predefined rules and fundamentals. these predefined rules and fundamentals are NOT the same between fpp and tpp.
>>548327076
>>548327076nta but the problem with tpp is that it inherently can make ttk feel lower because you can pre aim a lot of the time while in fpp you need to actually know what crosshair placement is and react instead of peeking and prefiring with knowledge
>hutch actually bouncing off of peanuts shenanigans Amazing.
>>548327076>muh fundamentals>having full vision on enemies without giving off any information yourself>muh no advantageShut the fuck up>>548327268Don't spoonfeed this bitch
fu ck you bitch
https://youtu.be/RfqNH3FoGi0?t=15>Have exodia assembled>Probably never going to be able to get a trade for bobcat or vulcano no matter how much i stack valueFeels bad man
>>548320921My favorite is the "footsteps" creaking noise that plays when nobody is around or above you. When I first started playing I sat in one of the apartment buildings on Dam for like 25 minutes because I thought someone was crouching around upstairs because I kept hearing the footsteps. Then I realized the game just plays it as a generic "creaking noise" (but it's literally a sample sound of footsteps)
>>548327713>valueall you'll need is one aphelion blueprint and someone will likely trade you for it
>>548327960It'd take a complete retard to do that. Aphelion is both lacklustre and the bp is consistently farmable. Someone i somewhat trust said Vulcano is tied to anywhere in spaceport on hidden bunker, but bobcat doesn't seem to be targetable and is giga rare.
>>548325104I think the rattler might be the gun that gets the most benefit out of mods and upgrades. With a blue horizontal grip and stock, it becomes a laser beam, especially if you run something other than a silencer on the muzzle. It's actually just a way better gun than the tempest could ever be... up until the precise point where you have to reload it.
>>548327713Bobcat BP is supposedly tied to the gate event on the blue gate map, which is... removed from the event pool currently.Good luck getting it.
>>548327960Is it any good? Seems weird it only has Strong armor pen
My current gameplay is naked BP night runs.
>>548328281Its the only viable pvp-able legendary, still decently strong against arc
>>548328443it's complete ass
>>548328294This is why I'm KOS. Imagine a pve mode where everyone just runs around naked and beelines to the best loot. If carebears had their way every single map would be 100% ratfucked within the first five minutes and every extract would have like 10 people in it.
>>548328494skill issue
>>548328223Oh yeah a Comp II on the Rattler is wacky.
i spent 26 minutes killing a arc surveyor with a pickaxe ama
>>548328702one time I ran out of heavy ammo and was so determined I did the same thing, it was annoying and I got a few good shots in beforehand so I can only imagineafter I killed it was 5 min left and a Bastian was walking around near me, I had to roll the dice and hope it didn't wind up it's gun enough while I run past behind it
>>548327117
>>548328674It's intended for cornerpeek gameplay, similar to a ferro in close-midrange. Problem is good players actually will use util to push you and once they get close the math is absolutely not on your side. It's a conceptually shit gun that really diodn't get the playtesting iteration it needed before release. They should've made all energy weapons have unique on-hit effects instead of everything just being a TTK comparison in reality.
Where 2 get power rod?
>>548329082Server racks in dam power generators drop them sometimes.Or just craft it on your lvl 3 refiner.
>>548327374>muh fundamentals>having full vision on enemies without giving off any information yourself>muh no advantagewho are you quoting?>>548327268thats just part of tpp predefined rules and fundamentals, got to play by it and respect that your opponent can do it
>>548329175Thanks friend, still working on Refiner 3
>>548328948it was fucking awful desu ended up just surrendering with 5 arc motion cores in my ass
STOP LOADING ME IN AT 18 MINS AAHHHHH FUUUARRRKEverything is already looted, it's so ass.
>>548162680>I want to see you try soloing a 1100HP rocketeer with just a FerroI've already done that.
Does the Trailblazer or Seeker nade BP exist? Those budget Wolfpacks are actually pretty nice
>>548329719their drops are stupid sometimes>kill one with 6min left>loot through all of it>half of it is empty>the other half is that arc metal and motion cores>5min left and have to run for the exit
>>548329762>I want to see you try soloing a 1100HP rocketeer with just a Ferrowdhmbt, is this supposed to be impressive or hard?
>>548329774>total BP count increased after the updateThey do, but I've never seen anyone get them so far. Probably bugged.
I have a feeling hidden bunker is dropping vulcano very consistently.I've seen entire 6-10man teamers in the same uniform on hidden bunker, KOSing everyone else.
>>548162369basically got to get lucky and find wolfpacks and put them in your pocketthen when you're ready bring like 2-4 and kill the Rocketeers and take their stuff, idk how you would do it normally solo. someone said theres a weakspot between the engine and its body, but even then you have to be perfect with your hots as it flies over and hope it doesn't just target next to you and blow you upI guess fighring it in a building with a lot of windows to move between, but even then, it took me and 2 randoms ploinking it as it tried to pick one of us to murder
>>548330270you can also get them from arc breachables if youre lucky
>>548329868see >>548330270
The best spots to fight rocketeers from, if you didn't come prepped with wolfpacks/ambush it with a shock and some triggers, is on roofs where those large AC units are, especially if there are multiple next to each other. Big enough to hide you even when it tries to fly directly over you, lots of opportunity to juke the rocket around the corner once it decides to shoot at your last position instead of track, short enough to always be watching its position, and a decent position if somebody tries to shoot you, as long as you don't let them sneak to close range.
theres like a billion rocketeer husks just farm those if you dont want to kill one
>doing snitch trial on EMS Blue Gate at the highway in the bus with silenced guns>scanning area for ne'er-do-wells>see a dude making his way to my location>he's obviously looking around for me, checking buses and shit>can't find me>fucks off>sweating the whole time because I have dogshit aim past like 100m and wasting a lot of time drawing attention to my location>nobody else bothers me>get my 4k points and get out>no BPst-thanks....
>guy empties whole clip into me>clearly a freekit>don't die but have like 1 health left>don't fire a shot once>he's reloading>say "Hey, chill dude, I'm friendly">he just turns around and walks away>1 more shot would have killed me>extract with my anvil IV before I run into another sociopath
>>548331572It's just that easy
>>548318645That's extremely surprising, I always call people annoying that wasted my time trying to do quests and 99% of the time they are extremely angry serial killer types who clearly just enjoy being a nuisance
>>548331002Alternative greentext:>socially anxious sniper paranoid about anyone in his vicinity
>>548332092He was wearing the Striker outfit I know how his kind works, he was out for blood
blueprints are a fucking myth on stella nights
>load in blue gate matriarch just to scope out a legendary setup>see some guy get downed>and another>no one with a defib>we spend like 5 minutes guiding them to safety>protect them from a rocketeer>queen dies>one of them bled out>someone searches him and drops his near broken equalizer>pick it up>someone with a defib comes around and picks the last one up>(almost) everyone makes it home
Is there a downside to doing Grandioso runs for raw currency?
>>548332590its popular so alot hit it but thats about it
