Previous: >>548506551>Part 2 Final Chapter Prologue:●Release date second half: Saturday, December 20th.▶Requirements: Clearing the Recognition Battle of Grand Duel Caster.▶After completing the second half of the prologue, an exclusive servant will join.-This servant is excluded from Special Ascension and Valentine's Day CE.-This servant will receive double EXP when strengthening(December 3~20).▶Magic Stones can be obtained by clearing Grand Duel Caster and Final Logististic Operation free quests,which can be used to exchange for materials in a box lotto.-You will get 1 Magic Stone for each Caster servant and 3 for each Grand Caster in your party.▶Raid schedule for Tuesday, December 23rd.https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/cil_final_chapter_preface/>Grand Duel Caster pre-campaign:●~December 10 JST.▶Release Date: Wednesday, December 3rd.▶Requirements: Clearing the first half of the Prologue.▶Caster materials ticket added to daily mission rewards (~December 8)▶AP consumption for Ember Gathering Quests will be halved.▶AP consuption for Caster Training Field will be halved.▶Stormpods quests they will have their AP consumption halved.https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/grand_caster_cp/>Grand Duel Caster PU summon:●November 24 ~ December 10 JST.▶Check each PU in the link below.https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_caster_pu/>New Limited Craft Essence added to Mana Prism Shop:●Available till February 28."The Chaldean"▶Increases the Bond Points gained of Seven Knights Servant allies with Chaotic Alignment by 20%. >Part 2 Final Chapter Campaign:●~December 20 JST.See OP >>546900790>Road to Final Chapter Ordeal Call III PU summon:●December 1~8 JST.5*Moon Cancer BB Dubai4*Moon Cancer TenochtitlanBoth limited4*CE "Sea-Preserving Cherry Blossom-filled Dream" (story locked)https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_fop_rts_oc3_pu/>/fgog/ Friendlist form (2025):https://forms.gle/WK4dwSC6Mn2WQfZu8>Utility links:https://pastebin.com/iaWmXAq7
GILGAMESH
Just me and my wife
>>548525098sugita is back!
Soon.
GRAND OKUNI
>Goetia as welfare>Bromani pseudo as New Year’sThink it’ll happen?
>>548525301Marisbilly will be the Master side of Solomon, Galahad and Da Vinci.
>>548525378If the theorists are right, Bromani could be the finale post gacha. Hassan had a rate up like that. I think he's more Anniversary or part 3 starter raising Servant (from silver to gold) because Takeuchi is fucking booked.
>>548525301just like picrelright?
I actually finished (almost) every strengthening and interlude and still have hundreds of quarts missions left so that pissed me off
>>548525585I have 80 more that I'll never get unless I waste quartz rolling for shitters
>>548525280kys slop enjoyer
Post Supports/Grands, /fgog/
>>548525280>dripping on the altarWhere did you pick her up from? from the street?
>>548525992No
>>548525992No thanks
Sex with Okita
>>548525378>Bromaniwhat is his class?
>>548526050chaldeas
>>548525992Not until the caster duel drops
>>548526217Rebeast
>>548526181Kondou...
Who will be the enemy in the raid?
>>548526368(You) but unironically
Grand casters
>>548525280AI Gods
>>548525992here
>>548526368double trouble >>548526569
It looks like they won't have anymore new gacha characters after this.
>>548526368It'll be servants who fought in the 2004 Fuyuki Grail War leading up to the final battle against Moneybillis and Solomon (True).
>>548524628They clearly implied to be Grand candidates why else are Merlin and Taikobou there?
>>548527185no shitWhen did you realize it?
>>548527185Secret foreigner gacha for the next part bro!!
>>548527185More servants to come next year.
So is Gaijin OC just cancelled? They kept insisting that it'll happen "when we least expect it" but we're heading into the finale with nothing.
>>548527513Yeah one. Big dude.
>>548527562They said he wouldn’t release this year way back in like August
>>548525992nufgog is soulless and doesn't even do it anymore, thread is mostly tourists and shitposters always funny when they accuse others of it when the chances are they aren't even oldfags themselves
>just read his ce and I understood why is "Pseudepigrapha" SolomonDamn
>>548527210Grand Casters need Clairvoyance EX. It can easily be just referring to exceptional mages.
>>548527820He says while also not posting his grands
>>548527727Never mind I’m retarded and can’t read
>There is no Valentine's Day event for this Servant to receive his Craft EssenceThis line is so specific that what will most likely happen is that Chaldeaman is just a temporary servant who will be replaced with a new version in the final chapter who will be the actual permanent addition to the rooster. It will probably have different animations, voices and skills making it a completely different character.
>>548527885Have you considered it might've been retcon by the biggest liar on the industry that isn't todd howard?
>>548526263TripleBeastSuperBeastOmegaBeastServant WeJustDoingThisSolelyToPissOffAlayaBeast
>>548527562It just got Scramble'ed.Likekly already happened but no one can remember because is like OC1/OC3.
Why is Solomon black?
>>548528062Always has been
>>548528062Ethiopian lore claims their ancient kings are descended from Solomon.
>>548527829What does that mean?
>>548527956That is actually possible if the plan really is to erase himself to restore Salamon.
But will Romani/Solomon be for (You)?
>>548528208>Pseudepigrapha are falsely attributed works, texts whose claimed author is not the true author, or a work whose real author attributed it to a figure of the pastIt's a reverse pretender. Instead of someone new claiming things of someone, it's someone's writing being claimed as that figure.
>>548528349He is for YHWH
>>548527885It doesn't have t be EX. The requirement is specifically to have the clairvoyance necessary to locate Solomon's Temple while it's outside of time. All of the Grand containers are tailored to address a specific threat and their candidates are those that bring the most suitable skillsets to the table. There needed to be two Grand Casters because no single form of Clairvoyance could find the temple, but Solomon and Merlin's abilities together were able to.With Goetia beaten and the temple essentially dealt with, the conditions for future Grand Casters would presumably be different and tailored to facing some new unrelated threat. Just like how KH and Tez have completely different skillsets
>>548525992Castoria next
Soon
>>casually shit on Merlinkeks, Skadikeks, Ziyakeks and MorgankeksTHE MOST BASED CHARACTER
>>548527956>>548528229We should wait for the Servant. Maybe the ascensions will be (regular) Romani and that version gets not a scene, but like Mashu, a CE scene in the story itself.
Still no sign of Sylvia after all this time. It'll be kino if it turns out she was a Chaldeas plant all along and fucks us over, instead of being a forgotten asset.
>>548528661>nothing about GilI fucking love winning.
>Guda obliquely reveals he knows who "Roman" is while also calling him a loser>"Roman" catches on immediately and is like "Ohhh, you cheeky fuck"
>>548518830What did we said?
>>548528814Gil already won last month
>>548528062>Why would someone who lived their whole life in a desert kingdom in the Levant have tanned skinDamn dude I don't know
>>548528981Duel aren't canon
>>548528765she's undergone a controversial sakurafication procedure and has now been named "cerejeira"
>>548528825We did beat the shit out of Flauros on the same fucking gate.
>>548529058He's a king tho, not a manual laborer.
>>548525992
>>548528530what did you just make up?
>>548529390White haired sluts and Herc
Dont tell me..... we have to fight pillar nigga demons again........
>>548526368Fantasy trees + Fake lostbelt kings
Goetia was a lot nicer to us (Guda) than Chaldean is. I'm not sure if it's him.
>>548528928She calls herself a senpai at saving the world or something to that effect, and we point out how she didn't save anything.
>>that cool shot showing all gatekeepers of grand crown battlesI like how they look better than the actual Grands we got from main story lol
>>548529772Guda straight up shit-talks him with a line that applies only to either Flauros or Goetia and he gets the meaning immediately.
>>548530086Cute Mashu wife
>>548529985The pajeet is not better than Romulus get a grip
We know all the grands nowRank them based on how much you like each
>>548529994That flags me as Flauros more than Goetia because Guda was only mad at Goetia briefly, and he was respectful in the ending. While Fla-kun gets the instant shittalk and it's mutual. The fake Roman in Mashu's dream admits he doesn't like Guda.
>>548530181They all sucked. Indra extra sucked.
>>548530139Both Lancers are shit and that shows just how dogshit the class is
>>548530457More like how dogshit Nasu's taste is. Fionn could've been in the class, or Longinus, or Percival. There's plenty choices that actually are valid.
Indra actually has a lance unlike ROMA.Gil can shit on Orion all days.Herc is meh but Tez ain't much better.Izrael is just young KH.Overall gatekeepers looks better.
>>548530181Indra = Azrael > Noah = (Fake)Solomon > Gil > Musashi > Olga = Herc
>>548530729This is a ranking of how shit they were btw
>>548530181Solomon > Gil > Herc > Azrael > Indra > Musashi > Noah > Olga
>>548527956You know I fear something like this happens. Because his expressions was just an edit of regular Solomon's old ones.It sucks because we waited a decade for a Sugita Servant, but it would make sense to give us Goetia (or Lev) like this?
>>548530181Unless caster is illya in lingerie then they all suck
>>548530668Vajra is a projectilet tho
>>548530181FSfag's still clear, I fear.
>>548530589Why would Longinus be important at all?>some dude who happened to poke jesusWow what an epic legend
>>548530838Nah, just how much I like them, no need to seetheYou can post your own ranking too y'know
>>548529772Goetia is the only one who was nice to Mashu and he's nice to her. Like nice, not sarcastic nice like Lev is in her dream.
>>548531030Go back
If we get pillar minibosses, pay attention to their names.
>>548530181Madame President>Goetia=Gil>Azarael>Herk>>>>Musashi>>>>>>>>>Indra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Noah
>grands are mostly male>beasts are mostly femaleWhat did Nasu mean by this?
>>548531030Pretending to like Indra to bait is hella lame btw
>>548531052Lev is only sarcastic when she mentioned she wants to protect MUH Guda. Because he just hyper tsun with Guda.Don't forget he's the one who denied being slighted about Roman not trusting him and Da Vinci started making fun of that. He was pretending he didn't care. He's tsundere.
>>548530181KH > Solomon = Merlin = Orion > Azrael > Tez = Noah > Herc > Olga > literal shit > Gil > Musashi >>> Indra = Romulus
>>548531204I swear this post was made a thousand times. We're truly stucked in a timeloop.
>>548531210Your shitposting will never make anyone believe that Indra is unpopular.
>>548531210Crying about people liking something you don't is even lamerDon't ya think several months of malding is enough?
>>548531595Go back
Reposting;>Goetia is a magic formula 大魔術式, like a collection of the magic formulas of the book, that's why he can wheezel his way into being Grand Caster it's not any of the demon pillars so it can't be Demon Pillar Flauros™ you dummies.At best Flauros will poop up from time to time because Goetia is like /fgog/ a schizo formed out multiple personalities, like our buddy Morgan too.
Kind of a shit year it has been
>Indrafag melty samefaggingIt's been months...
>>548531816What was the ending of part 1?
>>548531816Am I the only one who thinks Morgan and The Lady of the Lake being the same person is pretty clever and peak pottery? Yes? Okay...
>>548531939Go read it, watch the movie or a youtube recap you fucking lazy ass
>EoS old Madoka gacha to make a new one>it's flopping harder than the old one less than a year after launchYeah we're never getting FGO2, Aniplex won't make the same mistake again.
>>548531816Boys Love won't admit to being wrong, their mod even made a video about it so he couldn't possibly be wrong and admit they cooked up 7 years of bullshit theories.
>>548531857>RichardEh>BiscioneCute>KomachiGarbage>DanteCute>MetatronCute (only Sloth)>LilithSlut>Red MelusineEh>IndraGarbage>OlgaCute>LipTrash>Summer ShikiForgotten...>Summer TiamatOkay>NoahGarbage>GensaiCute>KondoTrash>LizLove
>>548532057The spell that linked them dissolved because of Ars Nova. The Goetia part you mention was the one Solomon made. A magical ritual that wound out to nothing after each demon god got disconnected for reasons.
>>548532016I also think it could be an interesting take on both characters but like many things it depends on the execution, and we haven't actually seen how it works desu.
>>548532132Who asked for your opinion
>>548531857>Richard>Biscione>Dante>Metatron>Lilith>Brolga>Summer Tiamat>Gensai>Kondo>Super LizUnironically a great year actually
>>548532312You did.
>>548532235Yeah and Saber's excalibur doesn't have any seals.
>>548531857>rolled forRichard, Dante, Metatron, Lilith, Indra, Olga, Noa, Kondou>didn't roll forBiscione, Komachi, Typhon, Summer sluts, Gensai, Liz
>>548532572Highly homosexual
>>548532235>Lev just willed himself a grand SG
what if the welfare is Caster Guda?
The One Ring...
>>548532730Would explain why no valentines. The game doesn't (You) to fuck yourself.
>shirou faceShiro won.
>>548532235How many servants/beings have we """""""killed""""""" or died and showed up fine later.
>>548532510I'm telling you to replay to see Goetia's (the blond Human King version) personality is like after he's an individual. This was after he's no longer influenced by anyone. And he acts nothing like this guy. But this dude acts like Flauros and talks shit like him. He greets you in the same place Flauros greeted you.All demon gods took Solomon's Saint Graph. It's very possible that Flauros borrowed this to rebuild it, including having its power. We'll find out when we receive the welfare. And if it's temporal or will have a temporal form.
>>548532821Guda doesn't know how to masturbate.
>>548532850You FSNspics really have mental brainrot and now even impaired vision, that's a Kirei face
>>548532821Is there anything more pathetic than the simpering bitching of the three or four selfcestfags in this place?>waaaaah why didn't DW make whichever protag you don't pick end up as Shielder bros ;_;>mash confirmed cuckolded by gudao fucking gudako's tight alt-self pussy amirite guize lol best ship>GUDAOxGUDAKO COULD BE SO CANON AND ROMANTIC BUT A GOOD KINDA CANON AND ROMANTIC WHERE ITS DIFFERENT TO OTHER CANON AND ROMANTIC PAIRINGS I SWEAR THE RELATIONSHIP WOULD MAKE SENSE IF IT HAPPENED AND IT HAVING NO FANART ON PIXIV JUST MEANS IT'S POPULAR ON TWITTER INSTEAD FUCK EVERY OFFICIAL COUPLE MORE POPULAR THAN THEM THEY SHOULD END IN NTR REEEEEEEEEEEE>Why does /fgog/ keep telling me to go fuck myself when they know I'm sad that I can't bros? ;_;>VALENTINE'S EVENT WITH BEO ENCOURAGING GUDAO TO FUCK GUDAKO AFTER KILLING MASH WHEN>they're such great characters! they have so much personality as bland self-inserts with no internal narration in FGO!>Riyo's comics are the worst manga ever and Gudao being made a Jared Fogle reference just makes them worse>i wish i could feel my own arms around me.....HOLY SHIT FUCKING SHUT UP ABOUT THAT SHIT SHIP YOU WHINY BABIES
>>NotSolomon is stronger than Merlin who can put a Beast into sleep, Ziya who is a high level Xian, Skadi who can keep Surtr at bay and Morgan who has True Magic-level spellHOLY FUARK
>>548530181Gil > Olga > Herc > Goetia > Azarel > Musashi > IndraWho the fuck was the Rider again? I'm blanking out on that one.
>>548532720Possessing Roman's body would give him that SG. >>548532873He's not a Servant and he's actually dead and is clinging into existence in this saint graph. That's stated in the story.
>>548532850That's Kirei
>>548532016Maybe if we had ever seen the LotL side of her
>>548532920He literally spook in a similar way to Guda and keep switching personalities like a schizo, I don't know why you're so against it's KoH Goetia with the pillars when it's been theorized all the way back in 2016 that he was gonna be recorded by the throne and pop up again
>>548532730>Chaldeadude agrees to a contract with (You) if you satisfy him>"Dude what if the welfare is (You)???"I know most in here are stupid but come on
>>548533068Noah. Forgettable but not Indra or Gil levels of bad.
We are so back
It's so fucking over
>>548533028That's a copypasta
>>548533408>>548533480Which one it is
>>548533074He straight up says that he isn't Romani Archiman which basically means that it isn't Solomeme/Romani's body we actually don't know shit about him.
>>548533296>He literally spook in a similar way to Guda and keep switching personalities like a schizoThere's no "schizo" in this guy. He's just openly hostile with Guda, but respects him to some level, and kind to Mashu. And Solomon did that in London was because it was different demons speaking according to whoever spoke to them. That's in mats and explanation about the scene. Neither of them was the actual "control center" (the guy you refer as Goetia solo). The one who said that he'll acknowledge Guda as enemy after beating the Singularities was Flauros because he's the one who literally greeted Guda and Mashu, recapping the Singularities and acknowledging them as enemies. While Goetia (control center) couldn't give a single fuck about this and still looked down Chaldea until Ars Nova happened.
Didn't Goetia die? Finally experiencing mortality n shit.
>>548531052>Goetia is the only one who was nice to Mashu and he's nice to her.>"Sowwy, I nuked you"
>>Chaldean man didn't even think Gil is worth being mentioned>>somehow Gilkeks take it as a winLol
>>548533365I find hard to believe they will just give us a free Solomon.Also, didn't Goetia/Solomon said that having a contract with him would increase his master's magical abilities?
>>548533674When he was speaking to Guda he spoke in a similar way than Guda speaks, just like Goetia did all the way at the end of part 1
Fuck you all, its actually Barbatos. He hates Guda because he was farmed into brain damage, and likes Mashu because you would never really use her for raiding.
Just started reading the prologue.Gordolf is raising so many dead flags, too bad I'm not trusting any of that shit after that crappy fake out.
>no special ascensionWe can't even grail them or is that something else?>>548533776>I find hard to believe they will just give us a free Solomon.Wasn't that their original plan when they thought the game would end with Part 1?
>>548533776The only way Solomon/Goetia is free is if Chaldean man is in the gacha separately
>>the Singularities are the past>>the Lostbelts are the present>> now we will be thrown into the futurePlease not another Extra/ servantverse ahit
>>548533917Either they all die or no one is. I'm expecting Da Vinci to survive with some bs.
>>548533074Notice who I said "beings" but most importantly what you replied has nothing to do with what I said.
The new Romani CE seems useful
>>548533917>Gordy gets lost in Space time in the final battle, with everyone thinking he's dead>Time ends up fucked and the rest of Chaldea( and Olga) end up in the far future.>Meet God Emperor GORE-dolf ruling as the overlord of the new clock tower fending off Types.
>>548533074Roman erased himself there's no Roman's body
>>548533969Didn't we already go to the future several times now? First in CCC, then in Dubai? Hell, technically the Servant Universe is the future in another world
>>548533947>We can't even grail them or is that something else?That is just that newfag shortcut that lets them fully uncap a single servant without any material cost.
>>548528581>>548529390I hate how they put extra classes side by side instead of just following the normal support layout
>>548533842>When he was speaking to Guda he spoke in a similar way than Guda speaks, just like Goetia did all the way at the end of part 1Nothing he said to Guda is a reference to what he experienced as the Human King. It is a reference to the last thing Flauros witnessed because he disconnected. Goetia before he became the Human King and perished was down to two beings: Flauros and the control center. Gilgamesh was talking to Flauros and was persuading him that his actions were foolish and wrong.
I hope the duel is AOE
>>548534343Siegbros win.
>>548533969FGO in the future wouldn’t be either, extra and servantverse are alternative universes instead of just the future
>>548534343There are so little ST Casters
>>548534263>Roman erased himself there's no Roman's bodyThere was a new one in Lostroom.
>>548534335>Nothing he said to Guda is a reference to what he experienced as the Human KingThe CE?
>>548534462All 0 of them.
>>548534512I don't think the voices in your head count
How did your 2025 rolls go?
>>548534343For maximum lore fun it will be ST and tailored for Sheba
>>548534715got everyone I wanted and a few I didn't want also
>>548534263If only we had a super computer simulator that can recreate everything and turn it real (that's not Musashi)...Wait.
>>548531857Personally, I think it's been a pretty good year. Got everyone I aimed for, as well as nabbed all the older servants I had missing with a big stash left still.
I really need anons to understand that unless they look at the camera and go "Chaldea no otoko is Goetia" this damn schizo isn't going to stop like it has happened before.Because I don't want future threads to be derailed.
>>548534839Why are you gay
>>548533947>Wasn't that their original plan when they thought the game would end with Part 1?I don't remember, I only remember of the collect 100 hassan to summon the old man
>>548534839Homosexual
>>548534884Based Jannu poster
>>548534665Lostroom is connected to Chaldeas and its summon system. It's description. You know what makes "what if" and runs people and turns them real after a while? Olga, Kirsch and Daybit were doing part 1 on there.In the meeting of Lostroom, we see Romani's body. And that body disappears when the Leprechaun walks out after he said he's gonna be busy.The scene of the temple ring pick ups is the post credits.
I hope the Grand Caster skills are focused on support roles
>>548534757Sheba's kit isn't even that bad but it needs a NP rank up badly
meme numbers
>>548534665Lostroom is a part of Chaldeas. Olga's "memories" connects it to those simulations that we know are turning real.
>>548535264What happened?
>They decanonized the Chaldea kitchen staff, our food came from either Nemo Baker or from a machine.
It's definitely both of them. Solomon has meaning in living as Roman, learning about humanity in different worlds, while Lev has meaning in stopping Chaldeas.
>>548534516Where in the CE?
>>548535391literally no content
>>548534263Where did Goetia get Solomon's body? It was destroyed. Do you see we have the same issue? Goetia couldn't use Solomon's power anymore at the end of the Temple, and didn't. He made up new shit up, and the Reality Marble crashed. He was also left without regrets. He didn't regret anything he do. He wanted to finish things off properly and die.
>>548530181Solomon = Azreal > Herk > Gil > Noah > Musashi > Olga > Indra
Why doesn't /fgog/ like Noah and Indra?Homosexuals need not reply.
>>548531354NTA but I was thinking of making that post a few days ago
>>548535264>people play CN still
>>548535675!Roman implies his existence is related to Chaldeas, so the body is Chaldeas Roman/Solomon presumably.
Assassin>Berserker>Lancer>Archer>Rider>Caster>Extra>Saber
>>548535656The fact we are still doing that much after a month with nothing but reruns is something else.Kind of why I don't think we are really going to enter maintenance mode after the finale, the rich people at the top won't let a cash cow this fat died out without a fight.
>>548533969Someone needs to beat the sci-fi out of Nasu
>>548533052Solomon was always compared to Galahad who is the most wanked fucker of FGO next to ORT.
>>548536307I don't know what he likes about Star Wars
>>548536131our cap is 50~60M tho
>>548536001Like from Lostroom?The Roman who is there and vanishes when Lev leaves/Guda arrives?
>>548534107Kino
Reminder that the events of Lostroom are not canon, because there's only a version for male Guda.
>>548536683>Reminder that the events of Lostroom are not canon,Guda has a flashback of that in OC4.
>>548536735I don't care about things Higa wrote.
>>548534343
>>548536001You don't need it to be Chaldeas anyone. You only need to talk to any Simulation Romani of the multiple versions of the events of part 1 took place (which Team A and Olga got it on) to borrow his shit and beat part 1, and bounce back like that. That would explain those scars too. Kirsch's body got mega fucked by doing that six times.
>>548529958That was her bond four, not valentine (though they reference that)
The time skip will be 1000 years and this is the scene (you) wake up to
>>548536848OC4 was cowritten by Nasu.
>>548537339I don't care about things written by Nasu.
>>548537389
The final chapter raids will probably force you to use a different grand in each fight.There's a chance that they'll make a super funny upset by giving AOE raids to the classes that had ST duels and viceversa.
We only like Sakurai's writing here.
>>548538031No Grad status for you bitch!
>>548538318samefaces
So we could select personal grands because we're the last humans huh.
>>548538318>le smug grinTerrible artist
>I am prepared to accompany you to Antarctica. This form, these wanderings were all for that purpose. >There should be one seat for a Grand Servant yetvacant. So he's the official Grand Caster of your team, but Nasu's not letting us do the grand quest with him.
Levfags won.
I did it!
I think Musashi SUCKS!
>>548539891God damn her attack is shit
>>548539373I don't get it. Didn't we fight Goetia there?
so, uh, where's the grand duel?
>>548540353Now apply the caster modifier
They need to let the Alien World do something big soon, it's hard to feel any sense of urgency when Chaldea keeps getting power-ups but the antagonist hasn't shown why they need them.
>>548540540No. We beat up Flauros there, though.
>>548539373Not really, that's where you fight king of humans (You)rself in a fistfight.
>>548540882This is a misremembrance btw, we never beat up anyone there. You can go and read Solomon again, we never beat Flauros there and he just gets zapped away by Jeanne.We do beat king of humans in the same place except everything's getting destroyed.
This instead is the background where the raid fight against Flauros happens.You're just getting duped by the Levschizo into remembering something that was never true. There's no reason for (You) to taunt Flauros about that place, there is for KoH Goetia.
Enkidu? For me myself and I
>>548541449...Love
>Paladin Mashu is a jobber>Galahad is a jobber>Gaytia is a jobber >Solomeme is a jobber>Levfag is a jobber Olga is only non-fraud...
>I-It's w-where GoetiaSsssh.
>>548541449>>548541192Flauros got beaten three times though. He just pop up again since he couldn't die.
>>548541449>There is for KoH Goetia.You beat KOH Goetia like 500 meters AWAY from that place. Even jump to some obstacles and bridge on the way. You were still standing in Solomon Temple.Lev was beaten there, he was and changed back to Flauros afterwards.
>>548542367Hey, isn't that the place where we fought Barbatos in Case Files?
>>548543091Yes, Barbatos in lev skin replaced Flauros and acted weird. The point is that you never meet Goetia in there. Goetia was blocking to get there. After you beat Goetia's ass, you're jumping and running even more to reach that.Lev greets you in his Lev form, gets murked, and becomes demon pillar and keeps jobbing like that after. But the specific leprechaun face is the gatekeeper.
>>548536349This does remind me that Solomon is about to face the duo (Mashu + Guda) that Galahad fought in OC4. So he should "stalemate" them in the same way, I don't think he'll really be defeated in this Grand Duel.
>2 more days of nothing>then another 17 days of nothing
>>548543091The Da Vincisimp machine recreates this and has Lev in the role of gatekeeper, but he doesn't act like the Lev we know. This is also Guda memories. Because is the demon god Barbatos-in-the-simulation-Lev instead of Flauros. But Lev is associated with the one who greets you on that gate.I'm not saying that Chaldean can't be Goetia, but Nasu's obviously trying to throw enough ambiguity.
>>548544006Good I have to finish up the semester
>>548535264>NA not even making a 10% of the revenue
which Demon Pillar was the one with the piss fetishcause London Solomon compared us to piss iirc
>>548544097Based americans not spending their money on this kusoge?
>>548544097I love Gilgamesh so much he's so fucking cute
>>548542570>goalposting
>Kanou said in famitsu the final chapter would be released in one go december 20>actually it's multiple timegates and it ends december 23He lied...
>>548543958You just need to "tame" him enough he'll agree to help. According to his words: "It was nothing but his unfinished business. Merely being burdened with leftover work. But this battle is different. This is a choice madeaccording to my own will and intellect." you can interpret it in many ways. But in all is that his current battle is something he wants to do on his will.
>>548544184>Aniplex USA incompetence in exporting one of the most mainstreams Japanese IPs was all to save MurricaBased?
>>548544334
>>548544169Not Flauros or Barbatos-chan.I bet it was Zepar. He was always a freak.
>>548544184More like the playerbase is spread too far apart with Americas and Europe
>>548544334You get more engagement on social media if you release the story in parts instead of all at once, they really want to get as much out of it as they possibly can please understand
>>548544334Wait when they reveal it's not the finale because there's a part 3
>>548544671It's called part 2 finale. So it's not a lie regardless of part 3 existing or not.
Lovecraftschizo is quiet.
Karl for part 3!
>>548544468tfw i had to learn how to read nip because it was the only way to consooomune lewds and homo fics
>>548544867Literally told that guy it's a prologue so will be short before and after grand caster and he got mega schizo on me.
>>548544992We already have Charlie
>>548544985My double grand Citywife is ready to crush whatever the raid is
>>548544468>SF anime adaptation happened because it was one last attempt to push the franchise on USA>stuck on development hell for years, then only gets one episode per year
da vinci's suspiciously missing from this prologue and hardly anyone here noticed...
>>548547113she was mentioned in it though; she was stuck in the engine room, yeah, i noticed it. felt intentional. like they had plans for her.
>>548545659Trying to import any Japanese franchise to the West is sort of like rolling the dice unless it's a huge giga shilled thing already (like a Jump property). Even things that should be easy hits with the target demographic might simply fail to catch on for no real reason.Well with Fate it's because all of its major works are originally made for a medium that isn't popular in the West. Rather than a SF adaptation if the goal was to make Fate popular in the West they should make an anime-original from the ground up with the goal of playing to the strengths of the medium.
>>548541192NTA but we did fight him there and win at least, unlike Goetia who we fought at the throne.
>>548547113The Nemo series were also oddly absent.There is a weird part where Mashu notices that a setting on the Shadow Border that would usually cause it to descent was set to positive instead of negative, which would repel it from the void sea, instead of letting them sink into it. Sion just kinda waves it off like Nemo Prof fucking up. So either>Nemo is now playing against Sion and did that on purpose possibly to save Chaldea (he seems to be more loyal to (You) these days anyway)>Sion did it herself and "fixed" it for whatever reason>Its a red herring, and Nemo Prof just fucked up, but it seems odd to bring this up now, when the Nemo series and DaVinky are conviniently busyGuess Sion will make her move soon.
Okay but what about the fucking twig?
>>548541449Retard, we meet Lev in the gate and fight him once then he fucks off to the Septem raid. He's still the only pillar we fight there.
>Retcon all the cooking Servants into "Muh cooking robot did it" and "Our meals always sucked"Why?
>>548547113Yes anon we noticed Da Vinci missing, Sion being sus about some coordinates in the border, Sion teasing part 3, Goredolf death flags and the chaldean employees "this isn't the end" flags
>>548547913I understand people are just angry about the leprechaun hijack.
>>548548150No one gives a fuck about Boudica or the shitty poo from OC1
>>548548150Why are you expecting consistency out of a gacha game that's been running for 10 yearsjust don't think about it
>>548548253I like Kali
>>548548319I meant the buff dude
>>548548150>Cooking Servants were never real>All Servants were always on standby in spirit form except for Mashu, DaVinky, Holmes, Nemo and Habetrot>All events where we "see them" is just Guda having a very colorful imagination/schizophrenic episode
>Nasu: We'll answer all questions except maybe one>The finale is one paperbook long, which is incredibly short, and the prologue so far is just adding more teases rather than solving anything>We still haven't even seen the villain ONCE>Sherlock still missing and Kirei is still aliveI don't get it
>>548547913> I have good understanding of human natureConfirmed to not be Chaldean, who struggled with it
>>548548240Worst part about it for them is they have to admit that the BL schizos and Levschizos were right, and Gaytia is dead and buried. You cannot imagine /frog/'s agony at this moment, the cope is gonna run deep.
>>548548253Although the poo was referenced in the prologue.
>>548548150Are you people retarded or what? They didn't retcon shit, they said all staff is preparing for the mission so servants are somewhere else. They don't need to eat like (You) or the others.Elrond even mentions Bhima indirectly
>>548548608>We still haven't even seen the villain ONCEIt's on login screen and their last posterThe purple sphere is CHALDEAS
>>548548253Ok, what about Redman, Beni and Raikou?
>>548548240People would probably hate him less if>he didn't look like utter shit>he actually had a role beyond appearing in Fuyuki, Septem and then a year later in Solomon
>>548548421Duryodhana or Bhima
Remember to claim your daily absolute dogshit from story gacha.
>>548547913This gate is commonly referred to by fans as 'The Levgate'.
>>548548692>BL were right even though you fight King of Humans at the same (destroyed) gate>Also the grand intro shows Not Solomon manifesting at the ThroneThat's Goetia.
>>548548793Elrond??
>>548548692>BL: It's Lev because he had no regrets and wanted to continue the plan Goetia had>Chaldean: I'm doing this for atonementNo. BL is just fixing their shitty theory with bandaids every new update and pretending they were right.
>>548548803I didn't mention them on purpose
>>548547913
>>548548839Well now he can look hot!
Got a BB Dubai dupe by mindlessly throwing quartzNice
>>548548692I hope both Lev and Goetia die so you'll shut the fuck up.>>548548980I hate Lev, but you don't fight Goetia at the Gate. In the game, you rayshift and IMMEDIATELY get greeted by Lev. That's the 'rayshift point'. Goetia is trying to stop you from reaching it and you're 500 meters away from it, so not remotely close to where the gate was. It takes a while for Guda to reach the same location after he beats Goetia up.
The most disappointing thing about all of this is learning how short the actual chapter is going to be. We're going to go in a room have lore dumped at us for 2 nodes and then just fighting.
It's Haagenti out for revenge for the pancake shenanigans
Did BL finger your butthole or something?
If a SSR is welfare. Would extra NP copies be in the gacha?
>>548549045The Lev theory is that he did have regrets. That's why he fucked off, he just didn't see humans were worth it, but Roman was. He just vaguely "never gave up." We don't know what he didn't give up, but he had a beef against Marisbilly.Goetia didn't have regrets.
>>548549656I don't like yaoi.
>>548542570>>548542946>>548547913FYI(You) NEVER beat Lev there, he just resurrects and mocks (You) until Jeanne arrives to chase him off.(You) DO beat Goetia there and the only taunt that makes sense here is (You) vs Goetia, mocking Lev makes 0 sense since you almost gave up.
>>548549556A quarter of LB6 doesn't sound too bad.
>>548549205Read the actual chapter. You only reach it after beating Goetia. He stops you 500 meters away from it.
Based stream quartz.
>>548525098Gilgameme the anti-draw TANKING the ratings as usual. If this was JetCHAD it would be No. 1 with billions in revenue.
>>548549874How does that compare to other story chapters?
>>548549517You fight King of Men at the gateThat's what I posted
>>548549735But Chaldean doesn't have regrets, he just wants to atone because he was left behind.He literally says he'd have dealt with CHALDEAS by himself regardless and all this wank for a literal who demon god doesn't even make sense. Flauros literally jobbed to a depowered Altera.
>>548549836Nigger read the chapter instead of trying to spam that. You reach it only after Goetia dies. The gate where Lev greets you is immediately after you rayshift in the prologue. You needed to jump obstacles and run a long time after killing Goetia to reach the same point.>(You) NEVER beat Lev thereYou do because he fucking dies. Just because he pops up anew doesn't mean he doesn't die there.
>>548549937How many reruns has Gil had already
>>548549937>Westoids threw a tantrum over cyrene>Still made a fuck ton of moneylollmao
>>548549937It's almost as if there's been nothing to roll on
>>548549978If we're taking the numbers entirely at face value then it should be a little longer than LB3.
>>548549937What happened to LADS...
>>548550008You don't. You're still at the Throne when he stops you.Then in THE SAME CHAPTER, after he croaks, you go to the gate where Mashu got you.
>>548550083>most shilled character in HSR history>failed to reach any of the other main pushesAlso there's literally nothing big going on in Nov. because they're saving it up for December
>>548550072Enough to lose his "Limited" status
>>548549891What about Not Solomon manifesting at the Throne then?
Doesn't this fake-lomon have the same tattoos and eyes Goetia have?
It’s just both. Lev has no reason to hold the qualifications of Solomon or test the humanities of other worlds. Goetia has no reason to personally care about Chaldeas or any related karma. Lev holds the human memories of Roman, poorly done as they are.
>>548550059>But Chaldean doesn't have regrets, he just wants to atone because he was left behind.Those are called regrets. You can't exist without unfinished business in Type Moon.>He literally says he'd have dealt with CHALDEAS by himselfSince when does Goetia gives a shit about Chaldeas? He mentions nothing about the Animusphere in any of his inner dialogues of Time Temple.The only one who is fixated on those fuckers is Flauros. Zepar even mentions this.
Sex with the banana goblin
>>548549874>>548549556They didn't say it's a quarter of LB6, they said it's like a paperback. To be honest, that's a pretty meaningless statement.
The fuck are you guys arguing about
>>548550065>You reach it only after Goetia diesYou don't reach anything, the gate was destroyed by that point but the location is that one because that's where the battle takes place. Nodes ALWAYS have the battle place as the rep image because it acts as the background.>You do because he fucking diesHe doesn't die, he literally laughs it off. Jeanne is the one who chases him away
>>548550373That Goetia has red eyes.And those tattoos are the same as regular Solomon just burned.
>>548550564There is one retard (levfaggot thessaliah) who should've been banned 5 years ago and the threads will be extremely better
I've read nips that don't think it's Goetia because he uses U-Olga's dumbass speech, unless Nasu just makes everyone talk like walking memes now.
>>548550427How can Lev hold anything related to Roman?
>>548550680the pisslar...
>>548550564is it levis it goetiaor is it john solomon
>>548550443>Those are called regretsNo they're not. If he had regrets he wouldn't have grudges against (You), use your brain>Since when does Goetia gives a shit about Chaldeas?He's doing this to resurrect Romani, he wants to inscribe a new legend in the Throne
>>548550427>Goetia has no reason to personally care about ChaldeasIt was retconned that he did everything because of Bleaching, no?
>>548550598You reach the "rayshift point" you unholy mongrel. Why don't you read the scene where flauros appears again? You rayshift and he's there on the gate.To REACH that point you need to run 500 meters, that's half a kilometer away from Goetia's death place.
>>548550457>final chapter was described as 1 bunko>LB6 was described as 4 bunkos
>>548550891That's pretty old desu, I think we got it back in EOR times even.
>>548550457>They didn't say it's a quarter of LB6, they said it's like a paperbackLB6 was described as 4 paperbacks.
>>548550747Pisslar! Our fourking hero!!
>>548550680If you see someone use 魔術式 they mean Goetia.
>>548551019>>548550907I see. I don't think it's an exact measurement or that 2 was thinking back to what he said 4 years ago about LB6, but 1/4th of LB6 would still put it in the upper half of chapter length.
>>548551203It's genuinely not as long as you think. It'd be Atlantis until you beat Caenis more or less.I don't see how they're even going to reveal everything without rushing things especially if supposedly just 30% is the post fight finale.
>>548549714I think they're giving a copy plus 4 upgrade mats like for welfares
>>548551179They are having a lot of fun unlike here btw
>>548551416I'm just saying, if they meant to say "a 4th of LB6" they'd have said "a 4th of LB6", I guarantee you that "LB6 is like 4 paperbacks" didn't even cross 2's mind.
So who will be Guda's canon grands aside from the Chaldean?
>>548550373There are differencesNo head wingsNo red beads over the braidDifferent eye color
>>548551540>Solomon hype>and also a loli thread and yume thread thrown in the middle for some reasonThis is a good analogy of what FGO is all about if you think about it
>>548551179They call him ゲー.
>>548551416This is what I'm most worried about. There basically won't be a story. We'll be going from one plot resolution to the next without much care for a through line.
>>548551832Only women use that and you aren't a woman right?
When was literally any other character shown to be able to take Solomon's form and use his shit except Goetia?
>>548550872>If he had regrets he wouldn't have grudges against It's regrets in TM: anything unfinished is referred as that.>He's doing this to resurrect Romani, Ok stop. That's just some theory, not really confirmed. We know he said he was specificially using that form to beat the shit out Chaldeas in the actual story:>So there was no time to deal with you. I had my investigations of the Lostbelts, the assessments of the humanities living therein, and the task of unraveling the carefully laid plans of Marisbury Animusphere. All of that is now finished. The task remaining is simply to go to Antarctica and put a stop to CHALDEAS. This is a task I could undertake alone. However, it bears a duty linked to my very existence. Also:>I am prepared to accompany you to Antarctica. This form, these wanderings were all for that purpose. >There should be one seat for a Grand Servant yet vacant. This seems to imply he did those wanderings to qualify for Grand Caster. Now there is indeed something to say about his actions in the Lostbelts that do have a connection to Romani:>...Hmph. It was nothing but his unfinished business. Merely being burdened with leftover work. But this battle is different. This is a choice made according to my own will and intellect. It could be just as you say, he was playing to restore Roman, but it could also be that Roman loaned his body in exchange for doing that charity work. "This battle" can mean all the finale and not just the challenge.
>>548551540Man, the people in that place seem like braindead shills. This is why I only like 5ch and /fgog/, we call it like it is.
>>548551540>Yokai Yumebi Yokosesame bros... same...
>>548551645Saber: IasonArcher: ArjunaLancer: EreshRider: TeachAssassin: CordayBerserker: RaikouEX I & II: Mash and CityHere are your canon grands
God this all feels so lazy and disjointed. Wonder if this scene was written three years ago and just lightly updated for post OC stuff.
>>548551942All demon gods took his form. That's the point. It was the 72 of them. They even take turns to talk according to Nasu (and dantes).
>>548551913Wdym bro? Surely we have time for:>Reveal what are the fantasy trees, Alien Priestess and what happened when Olga was sent into CHALDEAS>Reveal who or what we're fighting that is the actual villain and give them a character>Resurrect Olga to have the servant make any sense>Deal with Kirei>Explain what is up with Fuyuki>Show Holmes come back to tie up the promise he made with Kirei>Explain what Holmes is/was as a disciple>Metatron punishment>Da Vinci dying>Sion betrayal>The time leap>The time skip>Chaldean death>The "cool" montage like the servants coming back at the end of part 1 for the raids>Whatever role Abigail was tasked with by Dantes and whatever the fuck the Grands are supposed to do>Daybit supposed comeback>Goredolf death or sacrifice moment....I can continue making up things that were teased. Nasu is a fucking retard. I won't buy this ends anything not even with the most diehard marketing.
>>548552256I mean it probably was yeah
>>548551645Saber: AbbyArcher: AbbyLancer: AbbyRider: AbbyAssassin: AbbyBerserker: Abby
>>548551540I ghost made this thread btw
>>548552256It's just weird how they decided to rush Galahad, Paladain Mashu and Chaldean Nigga right before the final chapter. At this point it would've been better to just have one long epic finale with all the reveals.
>>548551942Any demon can take anyone form as long as they have his body.I say any- Lev was possessed by Barbatos in that Case Files fail memories reconstruction. So even pislar can be Solomon if he gets the body.
>>548552271>All demon gods took his formWhen? There only was one Solomon on screen at a time in the titular chapter.Lev was never shown to be able to do it at any point. His class wasn't even Caster but Lancer.
>>548552256>>548552416chaldean nigga was placed as big finale of the grand duels, but the issue is that the grand duels feel kind of unhyped because they happen one per month. if had been a month with that with some story, it would feel better.
>>548552319Half of the shit there doesn't matter or is all tied together as one. Like why the fuck are these 3 different points?>Deal with Kirei>Show Holmes come back to tie up the promise he made with Kirei>Explain what Holmes is/was as a disciple
I predict FGO part 3 ending up just like FFXIV after Endwalker
>>548552271>>548552470The Solomon from past 1 was Solomon's corpse possessed by the ars Goetia, the pillars can't "become" Solomon.
>>548552546Read Goetia's mats anon.The London "Solomon" is literally multiple demons appearing to chat depending on which nigga is addressing him.Goetia Beast I is the "control office" (what you call goetia) and the 72 demon gods.
>>548552778>Goetia's matsOkay? I'm saying Goetia was shown to be able to do it.When was Lev ever shown to be able to do it?
>>548552546>His class wasn't even Caster but Lancer.The class of all of them is Beast. It's stated in the beginning of the Temple. It's just one big organism and saint graph. You're confusing the farming commodities with actual lore.
Technically all Ars Nova did was put a lock on Goetia so that "Goetia" could never exist again. The demon gods could never fuse again, they could never combine into a singular personality again, however they are still alive. We face the runaway pillars in Ebic of Remnant.Solomon erased himself from the world, "Solomon" could never exist again But that's not the same for Dr.Roman. the existence of Dr.Roman was not erased from the world, there is still a gap where such a person can still exist.Just like when Solomon died and Goetia stole his identity, as long as there's no one left to call themselves Dr.Romam, you can steal that identity as well, since it's "open".Basically once again he's just playing semantics with "names" in order to survive Solomon is forever gone, Goetia is forever gone, so the only way he can live is under a different identity
>>548551540>indra yumethreadNowhere is safe
>>548552778momentarily taking control and speaking though a vessel and actually being said vessel isn't the same thing.
>>548552642>Half of the shit there doesn't matter>Uhhh we wasted your time with shit for 8 years just to end it in an unsatisfactory way and don't answer things we danced around all this time>Mouthbreaker: HALF OF THIS SHIT DOESN'T MATTER I JUST WANT FGO TO END NASU IS SO GOOD IF HE WRITES THE SLOP I WANT!!!God fuck off people like you disgust me. If it's a finale I want EVERYTHING dealt with, if he doesn't he's a full on fraud
>>548552903>I'm saying Goetia was shown to be able to do it.Goetia isn't a person. It's a spell that eventually became sapient, but the 72 demon gods are the ones who "nestled" inside Solomon body originally, and that's stated in his mats. You might notice how they speak in plural until very recently.All of them possessed Solomon and used his power. They took turns to be in charge.
>>548552319>Reveal what are the fantasy trees, Alien Priestess and what happened when Olga was sent into CHALDEAS>Reveal who or what we're fighting that is the actual villain and give them a character>Resurrect Olga to have the servant make any senseAll of these are Olga.>Deal with Kirei>Show Holmes come back to tie up the promise he made with Kirei>Explain what Holmes is/was as a discipleAll these are the same thing, Holmes will come back, fuck up Kirei and infodump the plot.>Explain what is up with Fuyuki>The time leapSame thing.>The time skip>Metatron punishmentDon't matter, and I refuse to believe anyone particularly cares about these.>Da Vinci dying>Goredolf death or sacrifice moment>Chaldean deathEvery LB killed dozens of characters, why do all of these need a whole node or whatever now?>The "cool" montage like the servants coming back at the end of part 1 for the raids>Whatever role Abigail was tasked with by Dantes and whatever the fuck the Grands are supposed to do>Daybit supposed comebackThese are all the same thing.Think like a writer, anon. There's actually surprisingly little to resolve in Part 2 besides the Animusphere story.
>>548552952>The class of all of them is Beasthttps://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/NA/enemy/9938200Name Demon God FlaurosClass Lancer
>>548553059Yeah at least we hate him here. Fgog... home.
>>548553195You're about as competent at making any of this sound worthwhile as nasu is.
>>548553137>Goetia isn't a person. It's a spell thatGoetia is an entity that's shown as separate to Flauros on screen.Goetia is shown able to take Solomon form and powers. Lev isn't.You're using Goetia to explain things Lev isn't capable of doing which is admitting he's just Goetia.
>>548553065The control office is merely a spell that tied on the demons together. He didn't even exist with an ego in Solomon's time. Solomon had no clue of his existence. So yes, in the beginning, the ones who took control are the hive. Even Daybit clarifies "Goetia--the 72 demon gods plan." Nasu said "they settled in Solomon's corpse." What isn't clear to you? All of them were moving him around as a puppet.
>>548553485nigga what does this have to do with what i said?
>>548553137Goatse is both an individual and hive mind. The king of men couldn’t exist if he wasn’t
>>548553446>Goetia is an entity that's shown as separate to Flauros on screen.In the Temple, yes. Because he became an individual as the "incineration formula," the demon gods finalized. But you have 3k years of a colony.>Goetia is shown able to take Solomon form and powers. Lev isn't.If that was true, then the demons wouldn't take over to speak as Solomon in London. This shows all of them can do it. They even BTFO Servants that way.>You're using Goetia to explain things Lev isn't capable of doing which is admitting he's just Goetia.Goetia isn't capable of doing anything. Solomon is. Whoever gets his body and saint graph is the one who gets to do something.
>according to that anon Grand Caster=lev=Beast Goetiawew
>>548553081I'm just saying that you're separating plot points that will obviously be addressed together or as if they were important plot points that need to be carefully addressed addressed. Holmes will return to deal with Kotomine and infodump his bit of the plot/the real culprit. The "you will open the door" Abby thing could easily just be the Part 2 "on your left" moment and also bring back Daybit like Tezca teased.
>>548553710King of Men by his admission, was only born in that moment and didn't exist beforehand. That's why it was a Beast and not a Human.
>>548553446Not the guy you're talking to but Goetia just took over Solomon's corpse. Goetia cannot turn into Romani. What we see here is not comparable to then. There are two different things happening that you're conflating.
>>548553443What do you expect me to say when you pretend "Guda's punishment" aka a plot point introduced by Filler Call is something that actually matters?
>>548552993Goetia is the spell that fuses the demons. He has no other identity. If that's what got erased, so "Goetia" (the control office) is gone. But the thing is 99% of the shit that was Goetia characterization+Marisbilly focus came from Flauros. People don't like to admit it because he's an ugly boring leprechaun who is a Mashufag. But he's the one who is booming and extra and stuck to the very end with the control office before disconnecting. So all but the last scene with Goetia can ge shoved to Flauros who ontop of that hates the Animuspheres with a passion.
I feel like the final order is going to be one continuous wet fart. Not making the grand duels part of the story was a mistake. It should have been a series of hyped up encounters slowly leading up to all this.
>>548553908We know he's using Roman's body. Roman = Solomon = Grand Caster. Even Pisslar will be Grand Caster with a ring on that body brosis.
>>548553812>In the Temple, yesYou're free to show Lev becoming Solomon outside the Temple, that never happens. Infact he's shown as pathetically weak in Septem to the point he dies to Altera.If you're telling me that's a character who has the power of Solomon at his disposal I would call it non functional logic.>If that was true, then the demons wouldn't take over to speak as Solomon in London. This shows all of them can do it.No? It just shows they share a network, not that they can become Solomon.It's like saying all Nemos can use the actual Nemo shit when there's just 1 main body.>Goetia isn't capable of doing anything. Solomon is. Whoever gets his body and saint graph is the one who gets to do something.Guess who was the one closest to Solomon when he died and reappeared with a body bearing his same tattoos.
Everyone shut the fuck up and look at this moe as fuck CHAIKA face
>>548554404It's because they don't want to force casual players to go through the Grand Duels so they're optional just like the Olga Quests.
>>548553260>I'm going to disregard what the story says about being only one saint graph (and is Beast) because of the gameplay feature to farm pillars
>>548554680I wish Takeuchi knew how to draw...
>>548554294>But the thing is 99% of the shit that was Goetia characterization+Marisbilly focus came from Flauros>Actually Goetia is Flauros so even if he's Goetia I'm rightYou realize that's how you sound right?Because I doubt you even remember what Flauros personality is seeing he had more or less Bloodaxe screentime in this entire game.
>>548554518>we know he's using Roman's bodyno we don't, especially when it hasn't been stated nor implied anywhere and Roman erased himself
>>548554518Since Marisbury had a ring he's also a Solomon, and a Beast and a Grand Caster?
>>548554294>99% of the shit that was Goetia characterization+Marisbilly focus came from FlaurosWe are reaching comedy levels of schizoposting here. >>548555159His girls are cute when they don't look like frogs
>>548554713Levfags are disregarding an entire character just to prop up a nonsense theory from some mod of a forum site filled with wannabe lorefags so?If you have anything to back up the idea Lev can turn into Solomon at command go ahead, he's never been shown to be able to do that. ONE character came back with Solomon's body in this story and it's not him.
When will I meet my "Sigh, this universe's bad habit is making up the content" waifu?
>>548554157nta>a plot point introduced by Filler Call is something that actually matters?Your reply dismisses that entire list of plot points across the entire lostbelt arc by ultimately claiming none of them matter.Peculiar stance to take when you clearly appear to be defending the story that kept juggling all of these around for eight years.
>>548554669>You're free to show Lev becoming Solomon outside the Temple, that never happens. Infact he's shown as pathetically weak in Septem to the point he dies to Altera.Pretty sure he kills Servants as Solomon in London because he's the last pillar speaking.>It just shows they share a network, not that they can become Solomon."After the death of King Solomon, the concept of "Seventy Two Demon Gods", deserted, then nested inside the corpse of King Solomon and through long months and years was rebirth as "someone" who wears Solomon's skin.Although unable on performing heroic Spirit summoning or normal familiar summoning, he is capable of freely summonning to existence the "Seventy Two Demon Gods".Simply put, a converter that projects into reality the "imaginary demon gods" nesting within King Solomon's inner world."Nemo case is the opposite.>Guess who was the one closest to Solomon when he died and reappeared with a body bearing his same tattoos.The 72 demon gods.
>>548554518Having a body of a Grand doesn't make you a Grand lmao. Caligula became a Grand by having Quirinus manifested into his body, not the reverse. Same for all the other God-based Grands
>>548555320I didn't dismiss most of them, I said they will be addressed together. I only dismissed the legitimately irrelevant 2 "but my Guda!" buts as if they mattered because regardless of what happens next Nasu will just asspull whatever he needs for the story to continue. And if they happen to be actually important, then they will directly lead to Part 3/EoR 3.0 so why would the final chapter need to address them?
>>548554680Yes Chaika!
>>548554843According to Nasu, Flauros kun is the only demon God with a personality and individuality and feelings before Ars Nova. If Goekun was an aggregation of the 72, and 70 were robotic, 1 was pisslar, and 1 was Flauros. Sugita makes the same voice when he voices Flauros and Goetia, while he makes a different voice for every other demon god, and he voiced them all. So Flauros and Central Office are extremely almost the samefag for all intents and purpose. Except Flauros hates Memespheres and is fixated on Chaldea, while Goetia doesn't have that because his goal is more 'general' as given by the other 71 (including pisslar). Flauros is capable of fucking over his 71 bros, but decides to truck along only to fuck over Marisbilly.
>come back from work>levschizo is still goingI DON'T GIVE A FUCK SOMEONE POST A CUTIEFUL SERVANT
>>548554852>Roman erased himselfRoman never erased himself.
>>548555332>Pretty sure he kills Servants as Solomon in London becauseThat's Goetia, not Flauros. I asked you to show me Lev turning into Solomon being estabilished at any point.>Nemo case is the oppositeIt's the same. They're a network. One is the only actual Nemo, the rest are parts of him just like the Goetia vs Demon Gods case.Goetia can be all demon gods, the Demon Gods by themselves aren't Goetia. So Lev can't inherit shit related to him nor is Lev shown to reach his powers at any point in this series.>The 72 demon godsYou're just avoiding to say Goetia lol
>>548555698He's fighting his demons trying to control the narrative of a godforsaken taiwanese imageboard pls understand.
>>548555697>According to Nasu, Flauros kun is the only demon God with a personality and individuality and feelings before Ars NovaWhich is objectively false when the ones that made up Medea Lily and Zouken had full fledged personalities.>Sugita makes the same voice when he voices Flauros and GoetiaSugita has 1 voice, that's not even an argument. He does the same voice for Joseph and the filter he has for Goetia is the sole reason you don't hear it.And no, Flauros isn't Goetia no matter how much you try to fix your failed theory with bandaids.
>>548555926>That's Goetia, not FlaurosNo. That's Flauros:>when interacting with others a demon god that is similar to the other party comes to the surface.Immediately after that, that personality says he'll acknowledge Chaldea as an enemy if they beat the Seventh Singularity. Who acknowledge Guda as enemy in the Time Temple? Your cute control office? He couldn't give a single fuck about you, and ignored you all until you went to him. It was specificially Flauros that did. Of course the demon god who is close to "Chaldea" would address Chaldeans. Nasu also said the rest couldn't be bothered with Chaldea, only Flauros did. This very scene you like to use for "Goetia" is actually Flauros scene. Like the gate one you're trying to claim.>They're a network. The difference is that Nemo existed without those parts. Those were Sions creation. In this case is the opposite: "Goetia" the bidding spell doesn't exist without the 72 demon gods and relies on them to exist.>You're just avoiding saying Goetia lolDaybit literally said it was the demon gods plan (and used Goetia as the same).Chaldean literally claims he exists only to defeat Chaldeas. Why would it be "Goetia"? Nigga never gave a single fuck about Chaldea.
The anti-Lev position isn't very convincing because it doesn't have a positive case it just ignore the bits about Chaldean that don't really fit Goetia as trivial.
>>548556314>Which is objectively false when the ones that made up Medea Lily and Zouken had full fledged personalities.Take it to Nasu.>Sugita has 1 voice, that's not even an argumentEach demon god but Flauros has a different voice. Did you not listen to how he does his voice acting?>Flauros isn't GoetiaHe is though, as are the 71 others.
Chaldean is Olga.
>>548556549>Immediately after that, that personalityIt's just Goetia.You're attributing Goetia words to someone else. There's no "personality".>This very scene you like to use for "Goetia" is actually Flauros sceneThis is so hilariously contrived like you're desperate to pretend what fits Goetia suddenly fits Flauros when it's not even the character on display.And you keep ignoring how in no way shape or form is there anything to support the idea he can obtain Solomon's power and body.>The difference is that Nemo existed without those partsJust like Lev can't be Goetia and do all the shit you attribute to him, by reverse logic.>Daybit literally said Daybit never faced Goetia. Goetia cannot be simulated ( Arcade confirms this ).
>>548557017You just don't know what is Goetia to Nasu and make up he's some individual, when he isn't an individual until the Human King who is inconsequential to Chaldean. Even the question your big boy made to Guda, it was Flauros who was ragging and wondering that, and Gilgamesh nudged him to ask that. When he obtained the answer, Flauros mysteriously disconnected.
>>548555698
>>548556735>Take it to NasuI take it to the game, that's the only source that matters. Unless Nasu decides to retcon Goetia's entire character and part 1 in this month, which I'm not going to "predict" to say you're right.>Each demon god but Flauros has a different voice. Did you not listen to how he does his voice acting?This has turned into a subjective argument. I don't hear Sugita's voice differently, he just sounds the same in all roles he does and that's not to shit on him it's just what I hear.>He is though, as are the 71 othersNope. You're saying 1=1 which is not true.
>THE FINALE WILL BE A BOOK SIZEDHow much of that will be SUDDENLY MONSTERS APPEAR
>>548557271I'm saying that he's the one who mostly emotionally affected him because the rest didn't have individual feelings. His directive cover all as a concesus. He gives a shit about Mashu only because Flauros is a Mashufag.
Olgakino will save the ending.
>>548551540>It was said that the Foreigner chapter would be done somewhere hereWHERE IS IT NASU YOU HACK
>>548557271>I don't hear Sugita's voice differently,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE4x38lF4kQHe doesn't sound like Flauros/Lev/Goetia to me.
It's over for El Gordo
>huuurr olga quests and grand caster prologue are optional>but you need to read it to understand the finale anyway! durrrr.
https://youtu.be/KTe92JhvASc?t=186When will she appear? Does Nasu remember?
>>548558503I still remember when people were acting like Gordie was going to be the fat bastard NTRman stealing your waifuWhat a journey
Would be fucking funny if Nasu never reveals who Chaldean and he gets erased from existence.
>>548558503Higashide had to put his foot down just to get Kadoc, who was obviously set to die from very early on, to have a death scene and even then Nasu quickly sideswept it to say, "actually he'll be back after the story ends lmao"
Tonelico is almost guaranteed to be first on GrandMy question, who would be second? Castoria or Merlin? I though Castoria but that poll with Merlin second got me thinking...
>>548558770Remember when shitposters tried that with Caenis.Then stopped when they realized no one gives a fuck about Caenis.Were doing it with Vitch too then Chunguska killed her popularity too
>>548558793Getter Tarak... why the fuck were you made...
>>548558810Kadoc was the opposite of needing to die, if he was gonna die it should have been confronting Marisbilly as the last Crypter.
>>548554843NTA but I wouldn't be surprised if Nasu makes Lev important at the end, FGO only happens because of Lev after all. He's also the one who throws Olga into Chaldeas turning her into U-Olga.
Whoever it is, the lack of a Valentine scene and how he ties his existence to "dealing with Chaldeas. It means he's either a temporal or gets Data Lost, but not swiped from your Servants. I think there's a message you can't use the autor max ascension feature, so like Mashu, you need to advance to unlock his ascensions if he has them. Being Data fucked over doesn't stop Musashi or the Avengers from having some scenes, so I wonder about that.
>>548559860FGO only happens because of 50 different people this isn't an argument
>>548558503Honestly more ironic if he doesn't die, because then>World gets reset>So I'm getting promoted right?>"For what?">Saving the world with Chaldea>"What's Chaldea?"Writers would rather a character die than get ironic monkey paw endings
>>548559860FGO doesn't happen if Lev kills himself originally.
Nice "OC5" and "Foreigner chapter" lmao
>>548559938It's not that deep>Today's story happens on December>Part 2 ends by December>Whatever setting part 3 goes for is past that, so the valentine scene would have to be AFTER part 2 or BEFORE part 2 depending on the servant>He dies/data lost before then so he doesn't get oneMusashi scenes both take place before she dies. The summer one is literally romantic as fuck and she confesses BECAUSE she dies.
>>548560006No FGO doesn't happen in any other timeline because Lev kills himself, Goetia gets BTFO and can't do shit and Marisbilly still exists but can't do his plan for whatever reason. >>548560124That's what I'm saying.
>>548560126Nasu said it's happening but "it'll be unexpected when it happens"No one really knows what that means
>>548560006Nasu wrote about how FGO only happens because Lev doesn't kill himself in this timeline.
>>548559938Someone said he could be temporal or get removed after Chaldeas, and then added, but is regular Roman/Solomon, which would tie in with his CE. Whether that was intentional from him (Goetia identity) or loaned (Lev/Flauros identity), plenty are suspecting that conclusion. It would make sense.
Geronimobros... it was his turn
>>548560248Yeah but people where fighting tooth and nail saying that this short time slot that's right by the part 2 finale was gonna be the Foreigner chapter.
>>548560228FGO doesn't happen if Moneybillis losesFGO doesn't happen if Angra is summonedFGO doesn't happen if (You) don't fall asleep in the hallwayFGO doesn't happen if the Crypters were competent enough...I could go on. He's not more important than any piece of the puzzle of this story.
>>548560218>Whatever setting part 3 goes for is past that, so the valentine scene would have to be AFTER part 2 or BEFORE part 2 depending on the servantOC2 Servants still got scenes.
The funny thing about wanking Skadi is like, what did she ever really do as a mage?
>>548560124Nah>The original collapse of 2016 doesn't happen>However we later learn that the collapse of 2018 is unrelated to voetia's plan entirely>In fact Goetia only activated his plan because "there was no longer a future left for earth if he did not act", he foresaw the bleaching>So even if Goetia does not act, marisberry plan was already long in motion way before Goetia acted>The bleaching and crypters still occur>We also learn that Goetia never created Singularity F, it was never part of his plan, it's something that always existed and continues to exist even now And let's not forget>It's also hinted a few times that marisberry is ALSO acting with his bleaching strategy because he ALSO foresaw no future for earth 100 years on the future I'm thinking earth was already set for pruning, and everything Goetia and marisberry did to reset the world to undo it all, ultimately did not prevent the collapse They literally tell you that if you wanted to prevent everything from happening, you needed to act 1000 years ago
>>548560564You're being dense on purpose, Nasu wrote Clocktower 2015 just to explain that FGO happens because Lev doesn't kill himself. He's the catalyst of this specific scenario.
>>548560228The reason why Marisbilly doesn't do his plan in the other timeline is explained in Case Files. He has the Fuyuki grail investigated, finds out it's corrupted and loses all hope; even proceeds to abandon Olga as an unwanted accessory. This is part of the reason why we used to have all those theories about FGO being a timeline created from a singularity because the main difference as far as we can tell is that the Fuyuki Grail War in 2004 is the first one instead of the fifth one. It's possible Nasu wants us to ignore this because he doesn't have an explanation but it's otherwise very convenient that the only difference between timelines is the one issue Marisbilly had in normal ones.Lev/Flauros hates Marisbilly's plan more than he does Goetia's so in the FGO timeline he goes along with the incineration in order to stop Marisbilly.
>>548560586They have huge " *** " on their profiles that say they still hang around Chaldea for a brief time before being link lost. In this case the story has a determined temporal range so a valentine scene makes no sense.
>>548556565It's the same both ways
>>548560898Like, if the final chapter doesn't start with Nasu literally laying out all the mysteries of the story and answering them one by one just to remind the audience what was hinted all this time once again, then he probably failed as a writer I guarantee that people forgot like 70% of what was foreshadowed over the last ten years
>>548560945I'm not being dense, you're giving too much importance a character whose literal only act is being a midboss.How does FGO happen if Moneybillis loses? There's only one world where FGO happens because the alternate possibilities fail for more reasons than just Lev dying, I thought that'd be obvious for non schizos.
>>548561183A midboss character that appeared in Moonlight Lostroom, the 2nd OP for Part 2, and OC1 btw.
>>548560995>He gave up because the grail was tainted Not in FGO timelines They literally tell you there was no grail tainting in FGO timelines, because there were no three families, there were no grail wars 1~4The 2005 grail war in FGO timelines was the first grail war They go over all of this in zero event
>>548561183Not him but that's something Nasu himself said. That Lev prevented the incineration in other timelines.
>foresaw no future for earth 100 years on the futureHmmm
Do you think Part 2 Final will be a "happy ending", or do you believe things will spiral out of control and lead to a tragic outcome, /fgog/?
>>548561449I wonder if you niggas actually read this correctly, there's a reason they bring up Urashima Taro. It's not time travel.
>>548561450finale*
>>548561401And then Nasu says through Sanda that if Angra is summoned FGO doesn't happen.And it's by logic that if Moneybillis loses the HGW it doesn't happen either.
>>548561363Anon did you not read my post?
>>548561449This reads to me as saying that when we restore everything it'll be 2026.
Now you see why everyone hates the Levschizo aka Petrikow or one of his dickriders.And why Boys Love is a dead forum that has to spam on fgog for relevance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGwvNG_DWE0Why did they bother to put Lev here?
How likely is it the grand duel will be AoE-friendly?
Guda will wake up as a 35 year old unc, just like most of the playerbase.
>>548561541>Read this correctly aka read it how I want you to read it because anything other than the way I interpret it cannot be right You faggots are so annoying.
>>548561880>the opening was about Castoria>only two significant appearances since she was releasedI still don't get it
>>548561880You mean the trailer they made using random images by their own admission?I'll laugh when Fuyuki isn't part of the finale and people will ask where it is because of trailer x. Btw the Foreigner card art was also in the OC trailer and OC is over.
>>548562097It means Guda will wake up as an unc, not that he will travel through time. Like Urashima Taro aging up to death.
>>548561873Fgog is just as dead as BL is
Whats even the difference between Goetia and Lev, they're both edgy tsunderes who care about Mashu and are voiced by the same VA.
>>548562428/fgog/ sometimes posts their translations here actually.
Read the Prologue. I have 3 thoughts>Gordito isn't going to make it.Short and sad.My input in this Lev vs Goetia debacle is that Lev sucks, but Nasu's insistance to keep that guy's identity still clouded in mystery is a little suspicious if he's "totally Goetia," and some of the appearances of Lev-specific related shit on him that have no explanation if he's Goetia. I don't think the next update will clarify this either. If he's Flauros, Nasu is going to drop his identity minutes before he gets killed in a heroic sacrifice to "surprise us." He may be banking on Goetia's better reputation to get players invested. I hope I'm wrong.And>real earth time Sion talkHoly shit why is nobody talking about this shit? Everyone who has touched it thinks it's some in universe reference, but it's obviously a meta real world one, which gives me a flashback of Nasu loving Undertale and Dagan ending and specificially having Oberon talk to us (the players) in that Drop event. It could be a meta shitstatic ending to show FGO events are fiction and Guda is a character and (you) the player has been trapped in the game for years but now you're free... I'm so worried about Sion babble.
The only comment i'm going to do regarding the current shitposting is that in FGO the character that the readers linked as the thematic representative of "Person pretending to be Solomon" isn't Lev, it's Goetia. And Nasu like the experienced writer he is, is very aware of this so if FakeSolomon was indeed Flauros/Lev it would be way, way more in your face and with way more foreshadowed than the mental gymnastics some people, who also happens to be mostly circlejerking gaijins, are doing.
>>548562589Gordito simultanouesly death flagged and life flagged himself; the whole "wow I'm just a week from retirement and turning into a Lord" bit was definitely a death flag, but "just call me commander from now on so that Olga can return to being the director when she comes back" was an anti-death flag.
>>548532016It could be if LB6 didn't kill all of Morgan's future potential in FGO.
>>548545004Same I learned enough moon to read the average mango and doujins but I don't know enough to actually translate it so I can't make money out of commissions.
>>548562293>You mean the trailer they made using random images by their own admission?The only ones random was the battle. Saber Alter in Fuyuki was a Nasu request, and you can see hints of canon stuff that indeed happened before they were even in the game (Oberon, Castoria watching the star, the 3 Fae knights). Trying to discredit the OP based on ONE single scene (the fight one) confirmed left to the animator's preference is not cute bro.
>>548561880brolmes... brodolf... lolinchi...
>>548562796That still feels like a death flag.
>>548562596>"Person pretending to be Solomon"I forgot to add "and of Roman by proxy", tee-hee.
>>548562443One's a big deal and attractive to girls while the other is an ugly peon who was only ever liked by olgaYou're observing the "flirting vs harassment" meme in action
>>548562596Nasu wouldn't need to keep his identity secret after today if he were Goetia. He's not thinking fans would associate him with Lev; he's hoping people think he's Goetia.
>>548562596Ryukishi07 chapter in Part 3 when?
>>548562596>experienced writer he is, is very aware of this so if FakeSolomon was indeed Flauros/Lev it would be way, way more in your faceAnon bro, the guy first appears in a story Lev is a main character. He's not even subtle with his foreshadowing. He's counting on people to think he's Goetia because he wrote Lev and Olga like shit and is trying to pretend he didn't.
>>548563298Nasu isn't know for subtly or for particularing doing long ass twists or GOTCHAs, Holmes being part of Olga's harem was foreshadowed all the way at the start of Part 1
>>548562428>Fgog is just as dead as BL is>fgog is as dead as a forum where the same 3 people bump the same 3 threads compared to the other 7 sections about unread TM slop on the siteLmao no
>>548563459Oh yeah now is confirmed he has one ring, he did appear first in Lostroom along with the priestess (totally Olga). A prelude to Part 2 where the main characters with Guda are Lev and Olga.
>>548563525Bit of Day
>>548563587>fgog is as dead as a forum where the same 3 people bump the same 3 threadsSame as us, come on
>>548563330He's gonna work with Kodaka and Uchikoshi first.
>>548563459Fuck off thessaliah no one cares about you
>>548563525He made Koyan's shitty backstory.
>>548562596There is just one retard spamming Lev because he knows that's Goetia and he lost
>>548563652This is the person who's depicted with 1 (one) of Solomon's rings
>>548563696FGO has 2 generals in vg, most of that dead forum of schizos action would be the equivalent of alter.We're the only hub that actively discusses FGO JP anywhere on the web.
Nasu wanting to wank someone like Lev would be amusing if it wasnt tiresome and annoying with Nasu being Nasu
>>548563689>retcons your CSWhat did he mean by this?
>>548564059>actively discusses FGO JPreddit
>>548563998AAAAIIIIEEEEE BUT MUH LEV AND 8 YEAR THEORYYYYY
>>548564132It would very Nasu.
>>548564132he already wanked him in the adaptations. stage had him aurafarm better than goetia (who gets defeated after 1 punch) and he gets a whole ass action scene in salmon movie with new attacks.
Say something about our HEROES
>>548564132Nasu wrote a novel where both Aoko and Touko wanted to fuck different Lev personalities.
>>548552413Wait nips also have le stocks memes?
>>548564395I would have sex with all of them, except Olga
>>548564162Never browsed it to know but I'd reckon its just shitposts and shit taken from here when its not.
>>548564395I would like Noa 100x more if it wasn't just an excuse to create a Nemo altNemo takes a great hero and drags him way way way down with his bullshit
>>548564381The Babylonia/Solomon were so bad that now he doesn't allow anything else from FGO being adapted into anime it's better not to mention it in any argument.
>>548564395I love Musashi's boobs
>>548564395Gil and Noah are meh. Brolga and Indra are dogshit. The rest ranges from okay to great.
>Nasu still hasn't revealed who Chaldean isWhy is everyone acting like "mystery" is solved when he's still being ambiguous?
>>548564395They really gave up with Gil's art
>>548564584Surely that's it and not every studio avoiding him like the plague after LE
>>548564584Extra (this one is mostly his fault not gonna lie), Camelot, Babylonia and Solomon getting very shitty adaptations back to back really killed any goodwill he had towards the medium, how much money and persuasion is it gonna take from Aniplex to greenlight LB6 anime
>>548564652Its me the player
While I hate the idea of Lev/Flauros taking over Solomon's Saint Graph for no adequately explained reason, the dialogue seems pretty ironclad on it being Lev with referring to Flauros being defeated by Guda and Mashu in the same place before. It is what it is, Nasu likes that green abomination for some reason, best just come to terms with it.
>>548564963>Sony literally begging him to stay for Part 3>Ufo is doing MahoyoI don't think you're right
>>548565016Guda from the future theory my beloved.
>this was the last year of FGOWe went out with a whimper.
>>548565283I see a lot of sex.
>>548554680Takeuchi cant help himself and will give him a shirtless ascension.
>>548565070Until he confirms the retcons I'm not going to bend reality to pretend it's something he's not. It's the same place where KoH was defeated.
>>548565283Whyd you cut out 4 starsThere arent even many of them
>>548565350>ascensionAnon he's a welfare.
>>548565202>Ufo is doing MahoyoAny year now
>>548565283> the last year of FGOYou high or something? It's not the last of anything lmao
>>548565070The strongest indicator is mushroom's refusal to reveal its Goetia. It can be done in thoughts without compromising his identity. His love for the Santa helper leprechaun aside. He's prolonging something that isn't a mystery while throwing hints about Lev (OC4 being the most damning). He's going to die, so no skin under my nose, but the denial of this possibility while stubbornly refusing to explain why is Nasu still treating his identity as a mystery is something Goetia faction cannot explain.
>>548565202Mahoyo...Touken Ranbu...Girls' work...? All forgotten, only Demon Slayer and Shueisha's money exist now.
>>548565283>popularLilithDanteOlgaIndra>averageBiscioneTiamatNoahKondouLiz>forgettablethe rest
>>548535842Noah feels they are more Nemo, and that feels like a waste of a character. Also their 2nd ascension in arcade was superior.
>>548565283>last yearsee you for the 11th anni, retardbro
>>5485652833 Lizzes and a Liz Friend
>>548565716>indra more popular than kondouI see you.
>>548565716In what Lostbelt do you live?
>>548565283Who's the least popular of the bunch here?Komachi?
>>548565716>Thinking Indra is more popular than Kondoulol
>>548565417>It's the same place where KoH was defeated.Only if you ignore the story and only use the map as "evidence" for your claim.
The entire summer was pretty floppy ngl
>>548565716>Homete, Gensai, Harada not at least in average>Indra in popular>Tiamat and Noah not in forgettableDo it again
>>548545659>>548547395The Fate remake with fully animated forest threesome is the only thing that can save the franchise in the west.
>be so out of ideas that you are quite literally beating a dead horse of SolomonMan, being forced to write part 2 actually mindbroke Nasu.
Why did Lev pretend to be Roman in Mashu's dream?
>>548565695>that interview before the movie premiered with the CEO basically admitting>"yeah we halted all the production of the other projects so we could deliver the movies on deadline without reducing our quality lmao"The anime industry must burn>>548565716>Kondou average popularity>Indra popularNot even Nasu shilling can beat nipwank on their home turf
>>548566003Komachi for the SSRs yeah. Ashoka and Kurohime are just as bad as her tho
>>548566168Tiamama was the most successful summer servant this year
Genuine hit:LilithUpper tier of OKDanteIndraOlgaGensaiKondouLower tier of OK:TyphoonSummer ShikiSummer LipBiscioneLiz (unironically mogged by Liz of the End)Flop:Summer TiamatMetatronNoahPeople forgot he even came out this year:RichardLMAO:Komachi
>>548566351Shiki is almost as bad, I really haven't seen much of her (summer ver specifically)
>>548559938Chaldeaman is probably just temporary before he gets replaced in the final chapter for a different character that's identical or objectively superior in gameplay. Wether he gets replaced by actual Goetia, Solomon, Roman or even the Priestess, who the fuck knows, is something we will figure out in the final chapter.It will probably also be a way to prevent the same Mashu dies only to instantly come back that happened in part 1.
>>548566230We don't know why Roman was voiced by Sugita and last time someone larped as the doctah in Mashu's dream it was Goetia before starting to invade the temple.
>>548566360Based on what? Homete is the only one that got any attention.
>>548566249They dropped the ball hard with his design and making him a generic arts looper.
>>548566764And yet he's basically the servant long with Lilith that is getting most fanart this year.
>>548566673We know fully well that's Lev because Mashu recognized him. She alluded to missing her youth with him and the doctor. And made a reference of being their professor. This is the one scene Goetia thruthers can't bullshit, because Nasu foreshadowed it using Lev and Roman in episode 0 he worked with: Roman's realization in Camelot was included there too (not in the game), and Mashu walking on water riples as she reached her journey symbolism.
>>548566889Let's not go that far lol, he's not even Dante level
>>548565695>The China-Japan crisis will cancel the Genshin anime, thank you Mrs.President for being a puppet of murrica
>He's now just going to say everytime Goetia did something it's actually LevI can't with this schizo
>>548566565>priestessBro
Behold, the Grand Master.
>>548566549She's still Shiki and her animations are second coolest after Gensai which is always a plus. Even if you say that people only rolled for Miyu she's still memorable in that people know that she was a character this year.
>>548566889On pixiv:>lilith2010 works>kondou419 worksIn comparison>dante716 works>metajannu476 works>noa653 works>indra917 works>komachi (lol)115 works
>>548565695The whole of Ufo's FSN which is a huge success made them 3 million in sales. Kimetsu No Yaiba make then 40 million. Mahoyo is never going to do better than Fate so it's understandable that it's on the backburner. I don't see them ever doing Touken Ranbu though.
as long as we all agree komachi is the biggest flop.
>>548567851Out of SSR's yes by a landslide
I wish summer Shiki had a serious looking NP. That's my only issue with her.
>>548567080What does that have to do with Nasu writing an episode to set up Paladin Mashu including Lev and Roman wondering what will be Mashu's answer if she gains a human heart, Mashu running on the same water as in OC4 (never seen in the game by the way, only there), and Roman having a visual reaction to Mashu's transformation in Camelot (never said to happen in the game). I know that Nasu is a hack and wrote the character like shit, but he did the exact same shit with Olga. You just excuse her because she looks cute.
>>548567535Now remove AI
>>548567943What are you talking abou? She has a serious NP that even has lore attached to it. It's not very different from Gensai's even.
>>548567943She's the only summer one this year with a serious NP
>>548568001AI was turned off for the search
>>548567640But then who was Alice?
Worst thing about Komachi is how they wasted Kannon on her.
>>548567943uhhhhhhhhhh
>>548567535What went wrong with Jannu
Summer Shiki had the best NP this year if you don't count Olga's stolen valor.
>>548568265Nursery Crime is right there
>>548568363Making her Judge form the antagonist.
>>548568481>ugly face close-upNo
>>548568363>kills Kadoc>gets shanked by Lilith>that's it that's all she did
>>548568341They also wasted Usagi's time when that time could've been spent drawing Dantes.
>>548568481Gensai animations are simply on another level than anything else released in the game so far so even if you don't like them she's still the best. Swimsuit Shiki is still the second best this year by far.
>>548568868Her NP is pretty standard compared to her battle animations.
2 Servants released this year are some of my Grands(Gensai and Liz) I'm souless.
/fgog/ approved servants of the year
>>548568646And that's why everyone loves her lazy self more.
>>548568991No lol? Her NP not being a powerpoint makes it top 3 of the entire game.
Lev really has no reason to be pompous larping solomon, so that part has to be goetia. Being both of them being there makes the most sense.Something like Chaldeas starts up. Marisbury's scenario requires Solomon to exist. There is no Solomon any more. Solomon now exists, the epic remnants coming together to meet the bare minimum. Goe-chan uses his Lev part as a heavy basis and they decide to larp roman.
>>548568646She also >bullied you across hell>killed the pope>shoved Mashu up her cunt >declared herself to be God's will
>>548568363She's flat.
>>548569034I have grands from year 1 and grands from this year.
>>548569237And?
>>548569154But it's a Powerpoint? It's just "turns to black, white lites", it has less unique drawings than Olga's stolen valor NP.
>>548569237That's not a negative
>>548568341I genuinely doubt that there would ever be a Kannon servant without her, specially since they seem to have completely forgotten about Journey to the West after Titty Monk released.But I agree they could have done more with her than whatever the fuck that was.
Gilgamesh>boringIndra>He's not really famous for his spear ability, he's not the pinnacle of spear ability, he's just "a chief god that happens to use a spear", he feels unfitting. He's not even the most famous chief god famous for his spear skills, that would be Odin. I feel like I can name a dozen more famous spear users. Romulus and Indra have the exact same issue.Musashi>I guess, its way less boring than Captain Boring(arthuria)Azreal King Hassan>SureNemo/NoahIf you erased every part of him that's Nemo he would be great, but Nemo being part of him makes him a 3/10Olga>Shit, lazy, boring, they were too lazy to make actual extra class championsHeracles>Definitely a bad choice for berserker, he's not most famous as berserker, berserker is a bad class for him, even Nasu back in the day always said it was a bad class for him. Heracles should have been grand archerGoetia>Fuck am I supposed to say about that one? Like he's not even Solomon, yet he's only a grand "as" solomon.
>>548569342white lines*
>>548569165Also from a meta perspective that would allow him to take all the things he set up with Lev and repackage them in a popular character(Goetia).
>>548569627When does Indra even use a spread when he gave it to Karna?
>>548568646>>548569186Also one of the few people who made Kirei genuinely seethe
>>548569732Wasn't Nasu the one adamant that Vasavi was "never used before" which is why Gilgamesh couldn't verify it in CCC because it had never actually been used before in any legend? Which means Indra also never really used it.
>>548569732spear*
>>548568481That’s Gensai but Shiki is a contender for sure
>>548569862Honestly got only himself to blame, seeing how he was the one that gaslit her into the whole "Fuck humanity" mindset, by withholding intel.
>※本サーヴァントは「特別再臨(サーヴァント進化)」の対象外となりますのでご注意ください。>※本サーヴァントは、バレンタインイベントの概念礼装(チョコレート･お返し)の受け渡しイベントはございません。>※本サーヴァントは、「第2部 終章_序」をクリアしていない状態でも「第2部 終章」のストーリーを進めることで加入します。This is what it says about the welfare.
>>548569317>>548569386I have gooned to more Jeanne doujinshi than the average man, simple tastes vanilla and occasionally a breast sucking scene is appreciated.Her big boobs have been a key appeal to her popularity and the fact her mom was created and became popular as a doujinshi addition to her own says a lot.Just being honest.
>>548570158>お返しSo it's a male
This "welfare" feels more like LB7 Brolga than like an actual Servant we get to keep.
Clapshits and pseudoshits suck ass. They deserve the worst arts and animations.
>>548570158Is the last part saying that people will get this welfare in the finale even if they don't do the prologue?
>>548570389Yeah.
The fuck is the point of being so vague about the story/gameplay separation of the grand duels just to dump it so openly on the last one? This whole thing is such a clusterfuck. I assume nobody has really been communicating this last year as this shit is wrapping up.
>>548570389>>548570496Yes, you can't also use that automatic ascension on him, so he must be story locked like Mashu.
>>548570507They're afraid of casual players being unable to clear content so they've made it optional. Remember when Nasu said "it's fine if you don't play the Olga Quests" and now they're going to have to add a recap?
>>548570389Would make sense, since the main reason he even dropped in was to join forces (more or less)
>>548570507They NEED casual players to complete part 2!!!Why? Don't question it! Surely it's not because...
>>548569870So how the fuck is Indra a spearman at all?
>>548569870Going by current things, he used it but it's not recorded and he forgot about it. It's like with Sigfired not remembering fighting fafnir. The details are vague and not recorded for some reason.
>>548571012He's not. They just can't bother putting a proper "lancer" because Longinus isn't here yet.
>>548571012The vajra his signature weapon is like Zeus's thunderbolt. Just picture how it's held and then thrown. It's like a javelin. I can make sense of it conceptually.
>>548571012Where is Romulus' spear?
>>548571012Uhh, according to Nasu, Vajra is a spear, even though that's kinda questionable. Also literally everyone has vajra; kama has it, kali has it, gilgamesh has it, its the weapon that everyone has.Although no matter where I look online I don't really see people calling vajra a spear. Its called a "ritualistic tool" but not really a spear>The Vajra (Sanskrit: वज्र, lit.'Thunderbolt', IAST: Vajra, Standard Tibetan: dorje) is a legendary and ritualistic tool, symbolizing the properties of a diamond (indestructibility) and a thunderbolt (irresistible force). It is also described as a "ritual weapon". The use of the bell and vajra together as symbolic and ritual tools is found in all schools of Tibetan Buddhism.[1][2]>The vajra is a round, symmetrical metal scepter with two ribbed spherical heads. The ribs may meet in a ball-shaped top, or they may be separate and end in sharp points. The vajra is considered inseparable from the bell, and both are sold in dharma stores only in matching sets. The bell is also metal with a ribbed spherical head. The bell also depicts the face of Dhatvisvari, a female buddha and the consort of Vairocana>>548571213I can understand a thunderbolt being a spear more than vajra being a spear. At least a thunderbolt is sort of a polearmvajra is basically a dummbell.
In her NP2, is Olga big, or is Chaldeas' small?
>>548570872Because people are bad at the game
>>548571379's what I mean by Romulus and Indra being the exact same issue. They're "chief gods that happen to use a spear(not really)". They aren't known for their spear or their spear ability. They're chosen specifically because Nasu wants to wank that chief deity, and their actual ability is secondary at best. Whether they actually fit as "the greatest/most skilled lancer" is never once considered.
>>548571413This thing on Kama's back is a vajra then?
>>548571379
>>548569165Chaldeas could have easily recreated Solomon without the middlemen; they can do literal pruned timelines and ORT bro why do you think a D ranked NP is a challenge? Specially when they already have his data saved up (this was part of many interludes, Roman's data is perfectly fine). Only Data Lostsashi didn't get simulated because Deita Rosto.You can have Broman loaning his body to either of them or both in exchange of a good boy list. Which is why he says he was forced to do that shit in the lostbelts.
>>548571012He's a rapist.
>>548571887All indian men are.
>>548564395you mean the dev team?
Bromani...
>>548571540I don't think you get the implication.There's no reason why they need players to complete the ending unless completing it meant something for them.To put it in more complex words.If they cared about lore or making money they'd make the Olga Quests mandatory.But they didn't. The reason why is obvious.
>>548571910asss
Why did Nasu whore out the Vajra? Is that they look so slutty with Indra?
>>548571984Hagwasumi bukake
>>548572305>GoB is a vajra>projection is a vajraWay to make them a confusing as fuck concept
>>548571625Yeah it’s a vajra
>>548572058I don't miss himforced hype
>>548571984She's so tiny lmao
>>548571379Romulus wasn't exactly known of his spear, but his influence is so great that he's worthy for a grand title. That said, he should be a grand ruler or something, not grand lancer. They just made him grand lancer because... well... his in game class is lancer, so they just went along with it. As for Indra, literally who the fuck know about him. I mean, just compare it with Romulus' influence on Rome, Roman empire, and so on. Indra is just a bullshit they came up with because they can't think of anyone better.
>>548571478It's a metaphor, you idiot.
>>548571910Forgotten
https://x.com/sugoroku_solo/status/1995508192160194718
>>548525098Will the lotto have proofs?
>>548572817only bones
>>548571984is she virgin?this is important
>>548572802tits too big
>>548572996Don't ask what happened during the production of Nodame Cantabile
>>548572702hidoi
>>548564395>Indra: oh you're in a hurry to save the world? lol FUCK YOU i'm bored, entertain me by going through this trial>Noah: oh you're in a hurry to save the world? lol FUCK YOU i'm sad, please make me less sad by going through this trial>notSolomon: oh you're in a hurry to save the world? lol FUCK YOU i can solo CHALDEAS but please go through this trial anyway why are grands like this???
>>548569459Yeah Kannon has a bunch of avatars that’s more famous than Komachi hell Yang Guifei is an avatar of Kannon but they decided not to use that part of her legends.
>>548573209We've been dealing with Olga's tantrum for 10 years now
>>548573082>Nodame Cantabile>2007quite old
>>548572683Ruler doesn't mean political ruler, it also doesn't mean country ruler. To be a ruler you must be a truely unbiased neutral arbiter. Someone who isn't swayed by anything and will view things fairly. A judge, in other words is the most apt ruler. A perfect neutral judge.>They couldn't think of anyone betterAny idiot could think of a dozen better optionsSt.George venerated in 90% of Europe, like the second or third most famous saint, with his spear Ascalon. He's the one that killed the final dragon.Sir Balin who destroyed three entire kingdoms with a single strike of his spearOdin famous for his spear which never misses, and he doesn't even need to attack for it to have already killed the targetThere's a dozen irish and japanese spears that would easily qualifySaint Longinus, who is already in Fate/RequiemThat's the issue with Indra, he's not even top 40 best candidates here.
>>548573045teenager wu
>>548573345The joke is that the main characters are voice by Saber and Gil
>>548525098>Dubai got a PUnobody cares man
>>548570158Oh so is tied to the finale. You can only level him if you progress the story like Mashu.It sounds less bleak:>※本サーヴァントは、バレンタインイベントの概念礼装(チョコレート･お返し)の受け渡しイベントはございません。This could mean that it is like Mashu. She doesn't have a Valentine scene to exchange. You get her CE in the event itself.Those "mixed" Saint graph prophets might be right. I can't see Sugitamon (Lev/Goetia/Flauros) be considered as equal companion as Mashu. The only one who really qualifies is the original Roman.
>>548572091I think I still don't get the implication.To me, it seems that they just want their cake (treat FGO as an actual game, so making super bosses and challenge fights for those that played for years) and eat it too (get the buzz on social media from people playing and reading the final chapters, that's what made FGO popular in 2016/2017).They can't make them mandatory because most players simply didn't touch them, probably after getting blasted once or twice, so they would have a too big blowback from locking the finale behind 4 quests that require you to understand the game, at least a little.
Funny thing about Indra being grand lancer is that Shiva has a more powerful spear and it’s more famous than Vajra. Parvati/Durga/Kali all use Shiva’s spear.
>>548573597They are quite close, the two of them
>>548573618disgusting whore ruined summer
It's sad the game is going out on a wet fart. If they had just made Ordeal Call 1 year while managing to interdisperse the Grand stuff and ended with this actually being hype, it could have been great.
>>548573383>To be a ruler you must be a truely unbiased neutral arbiter
>>548573793Eresh did it first
>>548573730We needed the Arjuna wank through Indra
>>548573710If that was the case all the campaigns to get to the finale before a certain point would be permanent.They want people to complete the finale before something happens later.
>>548573618I rolled on it.
>>548573793it wasn't summer at all
>>548573082Quick rundown?
It's so weird to make him a welfare. Olga would have made much more sense.
Karna bros Arjuna bros Rama bros Indra stole our grand spot it’s OVER….
How much remains of the Indian pantheon
>>548573793Summer? What are you talking about? There was no summer this year.
>>548574004I live in her pussy
>>548573993You mean a Part 3 or something similar?Sure, I'm not arguing about nor against that.
>>548574202they have like 1000000000000000 deities
>>548573952anni servants bad
>>548574245Weird, I never saw you since I bought the place
>>548574325lame
>>548574202More likely they will keep making Mahabharata servants seeing as how they name dropped a bunch of them in OC1 and in Indra’s event. They talk about Krishna in Indra’s event Rama talks about how he wants to meet him someday. Arjuna says Krishna is similar but different from Rama.
>>548574310Yeah, them not actually releasing gacha until NY confirmed my suspicions
>>548574465sorry for the mess
This id what comes up when I look for info on Quirinus's spear. So there was some basis for the Romulus's spear=tree=Rome. It's just not handled very well with Quirinus(Who Romulus gets equated to in death/divinization).https://andrewcfox.wixsite.com/andrewcfox/post/tree-of-the-week-romulus-spear
>>548573383>*murders indiscriminately*
>>548574627arjunathe og shill servant
>>548574435the summer ascension ruined them
>>548574747>krishnaPlease no Arjuna is whiny enough as isGive us Kunti instead so we can have even more family drama
>Goetia, who joins now and probably goes away in the ending has no valentine scene>Olga, who still hasn't been resurrected, gets oneDoesn't that just confirm part 3
>>548575192No
>>548575185What Arjuna has to do with Krishna?
>>548575179They saved money with that
>>548575106Does /fgog/ hate Arjuna because he's brown? None of you have an issue with Karna.
If they have to add godshit next, then I'd like something from the NorseThey haven't been touched in a long while
You guys remember when Goetia pissed on servants after he beat them in London?
>>548575290jew tactics>>5485753784ch as a whole is racist
>jeets have 100000000 gods>none of them stands for hygiene/cleanliness
>>548575192I brought up earlier that seems to be a Mashu-Servant who can't be asceneded or leveled without story progression so it could mean that, like Mashu, the choco CE is just a reward from the Valentines event. Mashu also doesn't exchange her CE anymore.
>>548575464>>548575464>>548575464
>>548575378I don't hate Arjuna, I hate his dogshit kit
>>548575248Why not? Olga scene would have to take place after the ending and Nasu's writing it lol
>>548575492Kek
>>548575797Also means no super longed voiced scene, but a shorter one at the end of the story like Mashu sometimes gets. But she doesn't have a CE exchange scene thing.
>>548575459Sir? Do not redeem.
>>548574465I'm in your (vaginal) walls
>>548575192Valentine scenes canonicity has always been whatever tier. There are several unavoidable bad endings, weird developments like Fou resetting a destroyed world, ominous foreshadowings, date raping and dreams of lost characters. You are not meant to take them completely seriously as part of the canon.Chaldean not having one is most likely tied to his mechanic as a character.
Hope it’s pretty easy with support casters being available. Don’t want to grail Titmonk just to farm.
