Store link:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):>Routes & Subrouteshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050501797>Achievementshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198>Stars & Visionshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459534675>Complete Episode 2 Walkthroughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644>Episode 3 Endings Guidehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3148380245# News:>Episode 3A: Decay has been released!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223>[DECEMBER] Next major episode update is still many months ahead, and development information will continue to be sparse due to spoilers. A few new images and a new cutscene have been shared.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900/view/496087542571991439# Nemlei's previous games:https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSIPrevious thread: >>548414812
My wife Noelle enjoyed the devlog!
Sibling Sex.
>new devlog>my sister and I repaired our relationship>my brother and I went to a football game togetherThis is the BEST WEEK of my fucking life. NEVER KILL YOURSELF
>The next time i get my hands on you, we'll play by my rulesThoughts?
>>548542032Did you repair your sister's pussy by inserting your penis in it?
How badass he looks. It's because of the cigarette.
Whats her fucking problem
Smoking is epic.
>>548542097>>548542064
>>548541884But it just told her to fuck off for a many months?
>>548542304Still more polite than her husband
>>548542189How did you niggas add color this quickly?
>>548541754>Smaller than advertisedWell the melons look big enough for me!!!
>>548542595Check what Bra she has on....
>>548542595Nemlei meant that for Teenshley. Ashley's got massive sister canons.
>>548542378Ancient chinese secret (GIMP draw over)
>Watch video of Devlog>Ashley going ape shit near the endMost likely a vision for the vision room of SnS, but honestly i was expecting her to get her shit knocked out for that by Andrew lol
>>548542772Based Gimp user. Never got into photoshop or alternatives. I'm forever stuck using paint. Though also, editing photos on mobile devices is far superior, and easier I've noticed.
>>548542772>>548542974GIMP > Photoshop btw
>>548542891Andrew probably reserves hitting her when he's reached his absolute limit.
Just realized Ashley came out of the bathroom in the teaser vision and not the front door, meaning she got like that immediately after a hard day's work killing people for ???. I wonder if she acted like that because she wanted comfort and validation, and that's why she's so mad afterward. She's beating herself up for liking sex, like a hussy, getting a self-esteem boost from a man's affection, like a hussy, and jeopardizing her own plan to use sex to control Andrew, by being a hussy. She gives herself away by accusing him of thinking his dick will solve all her problems, or that she doesn't love him if she's not slobbing on his knob 24/7.
I swear if i see even more fucking puzzles when it releases than 3A i'm going to kill someone
>>548543212What's that? 30 more puzzles? Coming right up!
>>548543127It's an SnS vision in the vision room, he'd smack her around anyway in that for bitching.
>>548543457I'LL STAB YOUR EYE OUT NEMLEI!DON'T TEST ME YA' BITCH!I DON'T NEED 67 MORE FUCKING PUZZLES OF FIGURING OUT WHICH WAY AN EYE GOES TO GET TO THE NEXT ROOM!
>>548542064Why post the wrong quote?
>>548542891It might be a crazy thing to say but her meltdown felt disturbingly familiar to me because that's how my mom sometimes acts when she becomes incensed in a fight with my dead, minus breaking things. (Dont get it wrong. My parents were loving, caring ones)
Whoops, gonna reply to a post from previous thread, missed new one.>>548541134>>548541086My point is, the narrative of the game does not depict the subject of incest as stritcly good or bad.In Shots and Such, it's shown as miserable and toxic, because they're regressing and going insane, but in Cliffhanger, it's so far shown positive to neutral, with Andrew's kissing Ashley being more of a wholesome moment, if it even can be called as one.in Cliffhanger's visions themselves, Andrew himself isn't sure what to make of the attraction but his knee jerk is to see it as predatory.Ashley treats eloping as a way to live together and make their own lives.whether it's a good or bad thing is more or less treated neutrally, it'll be a joke if it's funny for cringe comedy, be horrific in context of abuse, or be shown as a way for them to understand their feelings for each other, it's dependant more on the mental states of the Graves, and incest is just one extension of their relationship.
>>548541754Just realized how similar this image is to the previous OP
>>548543201Also Andrew's response to this is to... keep trying to get her drunk and needy again because the sex was good. He really is a PIECE OF SHIT COCKBRAIN brother.
>>548542189>this is where she got her taste for human fleshBRAVO NEMLEI I KNEEL
>>548543201>she wanted comfort and validationShe acts like always, apart from her initiating normal sex. I'm still unsure how much those evangelical tv shows influenced her view on sex.
>>548541754Damn, we got a mini-devlog? Why are the comments locked? I almost missed it. How does /calg/ feels about it?
>>548544274>evangelical tv showsDoubt she watched those considering she would rather watch stuff she isn't allowed to (see the secret muffin vision in ep 2)
>>548544274Maybe it's more about how lightly sex and romance is used in most of the movies. Sex gossips she heard from other girls surely didn't help much as well
whoever that anon who promised to draw 1 comision for free to whoever predicted the devlog date right.There we have it, december first; give me my andrew x thiu
>>548543867I think at this point it's impossible to talk about this game without also making an statement of your own morality alignment and overall worldview even. Is not about the game depicting the subject in some way or another, it's about that it gets the situation as it is and let the characters decide for themselves. They are siblings, but the reason why things went the way they went it's more because them as persons and lovers, considering that they were blank slates after murdering their parents. This is one of those good pieces of fiction because if you want to talk about it, it can't be half assed. When it comes to Coffin, and general Nemlei fiction, something like incest can be fulfilling when you're dead set on it; the glimpse of a constructive future for these people being possible give ideas, and you have to talk tied in relation to the reality you're living if you want to actually want to get something meaningful out discussing it, most of the time.This is actually good tho. It shows that this one is really good when it gets you really introspective. Kudos to nemlei.
>>548544459Decay literally shows us in the beginning that TV was her only companion outside Andy when she was young and Leyley glued her eyes to anything on it, including the evangelical shows
>>548541754
>>548544929TV was her companion, but she didn't just go watch those shows. She has called plenty of shit boring, those would not bring her any sort of liking. Also, her not liking sex was already explained by Nemlei, nothing to do with TV (Especially Evangelical TV shows)
>>548545135
>>548544825Fiction that does not force one certain morality and view on people in 2020s?How was it evne possible?
>>548541754>previous thread reached over 800 replies in just 1 dayall in my life, I've never seen dead game general going THIS faster than before
>>548545135>garbage outcomes genuine woman scenariolmaoAlso no giant brother or sister, we're slipping
>>548545207But fiction by itself doesn't force nothing on anyone? You can just ignore it? Besides, stories always have some conclusion they head towards to, because that's just the structural reality, life it's an story on its own. It doesn't even have to be "moral" as such (as morality is just an aspect of many, and a byproduct of environment most of the time), its always some kind of worldview that it's the center of why anything is done in the first place, something more fundamental and only concerning the individual.
>>548541884nomorashii...
>>548545560What I mean is that I feel like modern fictions nowadays want everything to be 'safe' and uncontroversial as much as possible. They have to be absolutely 'correct' in all ways, and I find this quite tiring
Wait i've thought of something... what if the Devlog pictures are really Decay? Maybe they both found a way back to eachother and set up another deal with the Demon/Demons? Of getting the Surgeon for them? Thats why they went back to the bar where the surgeon was from? Hand his soul over to them and they'll fuck off from both Ashley and Andrew, cause he's a tar soul and ??? has his eyes on the surgeon for one reason or another.
>>548545135What does one of these look like?
>>548543212Cry about it
>>548546175It has to be all Decay because no way Nemlei's work speed is fast enough to already working on Burial
>>548546237This
>>548546408Yeah that was another thing bothering me too, she can't be working on Burial along with Decay at the same time. It makes more sense this is Decay and they to find the fucking Surgeon like what Ashley originally suggested in the demon realm. ??? clearly wants him and LU might want him too, pluck that fuckers soul for them and get out, these pictures are misdirection's for sure.
>>548546135Ah, i see. I mean, nothing wrong with wanting to find fiction that appeals to oneself either way, right? I suppose that you're referring to moralist fiction? Coffin for example outright rejects the idea of morality in order to put priority in self preservation. Nemlei stories are like this, where the protagonists are self centered most of the time. Controversy for the sake of controversy is also no good, but controversy arising as a consequence for honest self expression is what tend to happens actually.
>>548546237Like this but with a gigantic face of Ashley
>>548546613LU seems to have a bad blood with Six Eyes. Maybe he sent Andrew to the cult to deal with him after he brainwashed him
>>548546175>What if they found a way back to each other?Why wouldn't they? LU's whole purpose is getting access to Ashley for nefarious plans and Andrew is the key to that. LU will probably dump him off back where he found him after he's forced Andrew to agree to a vaguely defined plan since there is little-to-no possibility of them ever running into each other normally and it would give Andrew panic attacks.
>>548546906I would still bet that those screenshots are from Burial.
https://x.com/mezasehappyend/status/1995497246180495868
>>548545135That's right floozie btfo
>>548546906It's possible as well? Or going for two souls to satisfy them bothCult leader --> LUSurgeon --> ???(Cult leader has red eyes like the surgeon interestingly)>>548546953i think it's more than just dumping him off there with an agreement, it's finding a way to satisfy both these fucks at once.
>>548545135Whoops!
>>548547031Prepare to be disappointed when Nemlei reveals after Chapter 4 release that 'I still haven't even begun working on Burial lmao see you in 2027 suckers'
>>548547174>>548547264
Seems like I was right that even Shots and Such still had some Hopium.
>>548547178It's not about satisfying anyone. It's a deal you definitely don't want to step back on because the consequences are probably getting your soul munched. It's about getting them to agree to things that don't benefit them by tricking them into thinking it's beneficial or getting them when vulnerable.
>>548545135Traitors
Would Smiling Friends be able to help Andrew and Ashley
>>548547178>>548546906Sorry not Red, but they're sort of glowy which is similar a bit to the Surgeons. Making them both big people of interest.>>548547373They do want them like that, but i'm thinking it's something that can keep both the demons at bay instead of taking mainly Ashley/Andrew. Ashley was seen in other endings making many new deals with ??? to keep Andrew alive/by her side so it's not out of the realm of possibility for it to work with LU too.
Instantly thought about Ashley when I saw that
>>548547542Don't they massively fuck up most of their jobs with said jobs resolving themselves most of the time?
6-7!
>>548546613??? doesn't want to pluck Surgeon's soul out. Tainted souls are not worth anything to demons since they can't eat them. He just showed an interest in a potential Tar Soul to be who can become a demon like him
>>548547617I don't get it..
>>548547704Sex with Leyley. It's a code number for sex with Leyley. Secret society lingo.
>>548547612Usually they blunder and accidentally help their clients.They help 120 clients a year.
>>548547660I highly doubt he's tainted, considering he should be a Tar soul someone who is crazy and pretty much accepted how they are already like Ashley.
It's honestly really sad to look back on their childhood flashbacks knowing full well they are going to have a dysfunctional and very sexual future together.
>>548547864First. Tar-Souls-to-be are worth nothing to demons, just like that of a grime soul. ??? comments that about Renee's soulSecond, Tar Soul status has nothing to do with being crazy of 'evil'. It's only relevant to one's self-esteem
>>548547906Or how evil they're going to be. It's like seeing cute baby pictures of Jeffrey Dahmer.
>>548547587Those are bad endings with deals made to the detriment of (Ashley) in exchange to stop Andrew from being dead. However, LU wants Ashley mainly. There is nothing he could offer to LU to stop him from metaphorically laying his hands on Ashley. And anything LU wants could be achieved by just using mind control to get Andrew to do it anyways.Andrew is quite literally on the verge of fucking everyone over just because he'd rather light everything on fire \instead of being honest.
>>548548147It's more tied to the will of the individual more than anything. Ashley hate herself, but she's absolutely clear where she stand in the world she find herself in, and have no hesitation about bringing arm in order to impose her will over reality. Compared to Andrew, he follows Ashley along, but he's still hesitant about acting like that over his own volition, without having any external justifications for his actions, which is why he's a Grime Soul, he's uncertain of his own sense of self.
>>548548489Fuck off
>>548548489Do not post AI-generated shit
>>548548147He is a tar soul (Says possibly but even Ashley seems to figure he is one as well)>Tar-Souls-to-be are worth nothing to demonsthat is only to ??? while LU still considers them valuable look at Andrew to keep him around to hatch>Tar Soul status has nothing to do with being crazy of 'evil'my bad, but they still accept themselves as who they are which the surgeon clearly does>His sexual attraction to organs>Admission and not really caring to the soda guy
>>548546485>>548542595See? Smaller than advertised.
>>548542064How many women got wet seeing this frame?
>>548548569rude
>>548548937Tar Souls know they are "evil" or "bad" and do it anyways. The only reason Andrew isn't a Tar Soul is because he still likes to think he's a good guy but his guilty conscious weighs him down into being a grime soul.
>>548548534It's not about one's will. As I see it, it's more about whether if one sees oneself 'morally good/bad' and one has a moral rule that he/she abides, and if one's living in accord with it. ??? mentions about only moral matters is that of one thinks that mattersTar Souls are one who follows no moral rules, views themselves to be morally bad with no redeeming qualitiesGrime Souls are one who believes in a moral rule, but thinks himself to be 'bad' since he/she leads a lifestyle that does not accord with it
>>548542097>>548542301>>548542215Smoking is so fucking sexy, I wish it didn't cause cancer.
>>548549074Their size and shape changes based on her mood.
>>548542097Needs a party horn edit so that it looks less serious
>>548549074maybe she's already pregnant in the OP image
Andrew should stop smoking.
>>548549431Based on her power level, she was deflated by the fact that her brother hit her.
That video that came with the devlog was so perfect, I wish the comments were open.It even ended with my exact thoughts on it.
LU driving Ashley and Andrew apart and then getting both to become demon servants would be a kino gambit.
>>548549508No!! That feels wrong, besides the siblings are not even gonna make it to the age of 30.
>>548548937The game clearly distinguishes Tar Souls and Tar Soul that has not fully hatched. See Ashley and ReneeLU/??? sees the value in tainted souls in a same way. As a potential candidate for demonhood. Otherwise they are all inedible, worthless shit.
I want Ashley to start casually smoking!
>>548549431She's pregnant, anon.
kitty kitty!
>>548548380>Those are bad endings with deals made to the detriment of (Ashley) in exchange to stop Andrew from being dead.Yes i know, but thats still the point, the demon will end up agreeing to the new deals she made in those. It could possibly work with LU, hell Andrew may figure it out as well, and i haven't even brought up the still known deal of handing the 5 souls over to ??? as he still wants, the terms with that as well. (Yes i know it was a trap to keep andrew separated, but ??? has fucked up now if he can complete that deal still)>Andrew is quite literally on the verge of fucking everyone over just because he'd rather light everything on fire \instead of being honest.This is where i disagree, it seems more he's being honest with himself after that entire journey than before really.
>>548549890That's probably the night where she got pregnant.
>>548548380To be fair Andrew did stop coping, he's just about to trade his copes for something even worse.
>>548549894She deserves all the headpats for the Coffin Kino she delivered today
>>548550029I want another devlog NOW!
>>548549347>"Pure" souls become demon fuel, recycled and powerless. >Tar souls, individuals far in the deep end of solipsism who have no inhibitors about doing what they want to do, get to reign in the reckoning Interesting Nemlei, i like this.
>>548549957doesn't ovulation increase breast size?femanons ITT, sound off
>>548549957That'd be WAY too sad unless the abortion failed.
>>548549316Well yeah, pretty much, it's why the Surgeon is more than likely a Tar Soul as well. Might even be more than Ashley considering all the people he has killed and harvested Organs from.
>>548550128Me too, anon. Me too.>>548550175That's the opposite tho. It's the 'pure' souls who think 'I did it so it was right and I'm great'.
>>548542064>>548542097Why is he naked?
>>548549947LU isn't going to make any lame deal with Andrew to stop his (LU's) plans for Ashley. ???'s goal was Ashley and she gave herself on a platter to save Andrew. LU's goal is also Ashley and he's going to bitchslap Andrew for trying to get in the way. Even in the absolute best case scenario where Andrew becomes a tar soul and takes her place... now he just gets 2 tar souls instead of 1.>it seems more he's being honest with himself after that entire journey than before reallyNo, he's being way worse than before. He was already loosening up before towards Ashley and she was started to realize something was going on. But now he's being a total asshole and tripled down on splitting Ashley up by different personalities with a murderous hatred.And the deal with ??? was probably not a trap, imo, because he was actually completing the deal before he was cut off.
Do the other ships have names? Like Andrew x Child Leyley is bunnycleaver
>>548550210Andrew implies they usually use protection, so it almost certainly was.
>>548550175The game still portrays Tar Souls and Entities as a miserable, negative state of existence.We haven't seen people who are moral because they truly believe in the moral rules and chose to be so (And I doubt we ever will). I wonder what would happen to souls like that
>>548550374I think i don't get the whole concept. The guard for example, he believed or had a worldview where what he was doing was right, while Ashley admits that it's wrong and yet she does it? That's what Tar Soul means? If the Surgeon is a tar soul himself, it would make sense because he is aware he bring arm upon people and that's actually part of the appeal, the senseless suffering for the sake of self satisfaction, but Ashley doesn't see her actions as "wrong", just as her brother thinks, she consider everything she has done "necessary", even in a childlike manner. This soul business it's a confusing matter on this one.
>>548550436I figured it just didn't show enough of his neck to see his sweater
>>548550806A bit niche but Teenshley x Adult Andrew is called Princesscleaver I think
>>548550806God, let this one be the template for Nemlei next game.
>>548550915>Ashley doesn't see her actions as "wrong"Anon, Ashley thinks herself to be an evil piece of shit. She already confessed 'I know I'm bad but I just can't help it!' when she was Leyley. Unlike Andrew she just decided to accept that fact without coping
>>548542301KAFKAESQUE
>>548550768>LU isn't going to make any lame deal with Andrew to stop his (LU's) plans for AshleyWhy would he not if he can find something that would provide him something better than Him or Ashley? More and other Tar Souls, instead of taking theirs, use them like ??? was doing with Ashley to nab the Surgeon and even cult Leader which could lead to that vision of Andrew breaking the talisman (which looks like his own instead of Ashleys)>No, he's being way worse than beforeThis was him literally accepting himself the entire time on his own obsession with Ashley, he split her personalities up because those other ones were not really her. Him coming to accept his own crazy shit is what can lead to hatching.>And the deal with ??? was probably not a trap, imo, because he was actually completing the deal before he was cut off.He was cut off on purpose with no way to really finish it, ??? knew this, he didn't answer back. It's why he accepted all those terms cause... well if he can't complete it then who the fuck cares? He can't complete the condition of the 5 souls and he is removed from Ashley.
>>548542097>>548542064>>548542301It wouldn't work with a vape or a pipe
>>548550849Golden souls?
Anyone else notice that Nemlei actually drew hands properly? Shit just got real, seriously. Nemleian hand forensics determines that this has got to be for an extremely important scene.When LU takes away Andrew's "thoughts he wishes he never had", what if he removes his impulse control instead of his incestual attraction? Andrew would then stop feeling emasculated all the time and start doing things his way without feeling bad about it. Taken to the worst extremes, he'd become the perfect tar soul apprentice for LU. The fact Andrew is naked here might even be a rape scene.
>>548550849>And I doubt we ever will
>had a 4 hour drive today>every time I felt exhausted, I'd remember the devlog and smile/calg/, we are so back
>>548551810Reminder that Julia is going to get her ass cut to pieces by Andrew in the Burial route and that will be what scares the fuck out of Ashley, thinking that could be her if she can't offer Andrew anything anymore or have control.
Nemlei denied us sisterfeet AGAIN
>>548551973Nemlei is a whore
>>548551973I HATE NEMLEI
>>548551970>Andrew kills Julia to appease Ashley>Ashley only feels even more insecurePottery
do you guys think the vision in the devlog is unlocked when you buy ashley the soda at the hotel?
>>548551973Based, fuck footfags.
>>548552161No, visions and stars are different mechanics.
>>548552142yjk Ashley is gonna be scared shitless of this Andrew way more than ever, i can see the scene in possible ways this goes down>Recommended by ashley to do thinking he won't but he will>Julia notices them both and well... no witnesses to which it scars ashley
>>548551368>if he can find something that would provide him something better than Him or Ashley?He wants Ashley. How is the same thing better? What you're suggesting is also, again, bad-end enslavement to a demon where it will have it's way with you should not not meet it's arbitrary quota.>those other ones were not really herNo... anon... Andrew's scene right at the end of cliffhanger has him violently murdering Leyley after she made a justified complaint and bitching at a crying Ashley. He's not accepting of his feelings at all either. He's again tripling down on the worst aspects of their relationship and coping about how he feels about her even more than usual by trying to brush it off.>he was cut off on purposeThe soul ate the flower path he needed to use. He then tried to contact ??? for help but LU picked up the phone and set terrible events in motion.
>>548543026>>548542974I love using gimp because I make a lot of space filling empire maps so the color transfer tool is great. But I really want to break into anti-aliased coloring of lineart one day so I can really get near Nemlei's greatness than just aliased lines, which, while easy to edit, still have a shmuck quality to them even with hgue canvases and 20 pt brushes.
>>548552161No, instead you will be able to control the rc car in the vision room
>>548551970Reminder that Julia will live FOREVER
>>548552161It has nothing to do with that soda part. It should be easily unlocked when you check the bottles in the SnS house.I have a strong suspicion Nemlei decided to add vision there later on because she wanted to draw more of them making out
>>548551339True. Although, she do asserts that she has done things in self righteousness from the quarantine and on, not to mention that in other flashback she do explain to Andrew the way she see things, in regards to other people ("Who cares if she dies? Life goes on, it doesn't matter"), but the soul aspect can lead us to what its truly happening "inside". It still a bit confusing, so let's see if i got it down this time>Tar Souls are souls that subscribe to a certain perceived morality in the world, and yet they precisely and deliberately go against it. They percive themselves in separation to the world, but embrace this aspect of their own existence to the fullest extent.>Tar Souls to Be are one step behind, unhatched Tar Souls.>Grime souls are basically individuals in a spiritual limbo, uncertain of where they stand on their reality, with no certain path. >Pure souls are souls that are self realized and in total connection to the world around them, as they perceive all of their actions in accordance to whatever way they see the world in all aspects, including morality. The world as it is is a mirror of this person action, and they agree with what they see.>The entire "soul" notion is more based upon the character self concept, and how they stand against the reality, either in total accordance, or in complete disruption.Either way, i wonder if pure souls can still acquire spiritual abilities. Or maybe this is one of those details of the world that tend to come up in Nemlei games that it's a microcosm on its own but never elaborated further, just like the rouge mage distopia on Better Half or the semi apocaliptic escandinavian setting in Divilethion.
It makes me sad that Leyley doesn't enjoy sex.
>>548552525It will make sense why demons are so fixated on Tar Souls if this notion is correct. They go after individuals which eventual conclusion of this way of life is total self destruction of themselves and everyone around them. Perfect vessels to get a hold onto for influence over the world.
>>548552537She does, she's just mad about it and refuse to admit it.
>>548549508>>548549774Burial Ashley will force Andrew to quit>Enough with your cancer sticks! You are going to harm our future babies!>What fucking babies, are you insane??! We are NOT having children, we can barely afford to feed ourselves!>But it would be a beautiful culmination of our love! And when that days comes I don't want you putting thier health at risk because of your oral obsession!>Ashley... They'd be products of inbreeding! Their health would already be at risk!>Exactly! Which is why the last thing they would need is you making it ever worse!
>>548552537She could, Andrew is just really bad at it
>>548552341>He wants Ashley. How is the same thing better? What you're suggesting is also, again, bad-end enslavement to a demon where it will have it's way with you should not not meet it's arbitrary quota.It's a possible deal where Andrew can go"Hey, what if we grab you plenty of souls and in turn for this amount of tar souls, you leave us alone?" anything could work and it's not like LU doesn't have a little kindness towards Andrew (still manipulative but yet) because he was summoned when he was younger. He still hasn't really made a deal with LU yet anyway, neither has Ashley.>Andrew's scene right at the end of cliffhanger has him violently murdering Leyley after she made a justified complaint and bitching at a crying Ashley.Yes, he's showing the same thing he always was which was being tired of Leyley and wanting Ashley. His literal deep desire being her, Ashley, not fucking Leyley. He was getting closer to admitting his real thoughts right out loud to hold her, fuck her, all that do as he likes with her.>The soul ate the flower path he needed to use.Yes, it's not like the demon didn't forsee this happening? He would easily see ahead to that point of "oh, the brother is trapped and away right there i got this then">He then tried to contact ??? for help but LU picked up the phone and set terrible events in motion.LU only picked up cause of the giant circle meant more for him, he ignored the first time thinking it was some random fuck again and had no clue till after. ??? clearly here wasn't going to pick up for Andrew and has no reason too.
>>548551970Andrew has no reason to even approach Julia in Burial
>>548552525I think 'Pure' souls are not pure. I think they are just blank, cattle souls who only knows how to follow >Spiritual abilitiesWho knows, maybe there's Gnostic God (??? does seem to be uncomfortable when Ashley mentions him) who leads certain ascended souls (Antithesis of Tar Souls) out of this shithole of a universe
>>548553124i mentioned here >>548552338 as how it could happen
>>548553124Maybe an accident, some fanatic encounter rather than seek her out for some reason. "Wrong time, wrong place" kind of situation.
>>548553014>it's not like LU doesn't have a little kindness towards AndrewHe's a literal demon, he doesn't have any kindness towards anyone.
>>548552338I think Burialdrew is gonna break the Blood Oath and spill the truth behind Nina's death before killing Julia. That would break Ashley completely since that means he has no rules she can predict or manipulate now
>>548553423I shouldn't have said kindness but more like gratitude
>>548553124Plot twist: It's Ashley who seeks out Julia in Burial
>>548552895This is not that kind of story.
>>548553014>and it's not like LU doesn't have a little kindness towards Andrew
>>548553479Ashley already broke that long ago telling Renee so i doubt that would matter to her anymore, it would have to be a whole no witnesses thing since Julia wouldn't know they lived through the fire.
>>548553014He's only "kind" to Andrew because he wants to get his hands on Ashley, and Andrew exposed a vulnerability to exploit.>He was getting closer to admitting his real thoughts right out loud to hold her, fuck her, all that do as he likes with her.And then he doubled down on not really wanting to because of arbitrary reasons which gave LU even more fuel.>Yes, it's not like the demon didn't foresee this happening?Cope response, honestly.>LU only picked up cause of the giant circle meant more for himNo, retard. He also picked up with the first smaller circle but he said it was too small and to get a bigger one. Then he picked up at the big circle assuming it was the chucklefuck(s) who previously used it.
>>548552537It's more complicated than that. I don't think she hates it physically, so much as she doesn't associate anything positive with it from an emotional standpoint, she just thinks it'll keep Andrew from leaving. She has a childish understanding of emotional love, because she didn't experience it from anyone as a child. Sex is more emotional for women than it is men, since Ashley only ever experienced "tolerance" and occasionally "niceness" from Andrew, her brain doesn't process it correctly for intimacy. She just doesn't want Andrew to leave, because he's the only comfort she feels in the world, so it becomes more about that, than genuine connection. Andrew is no help, because he doesn't love anything, just a fucked up obsession and dependency on Ashley.
>>548553168>I think 'Pure' souls are not pure. I think they are just blank, cattle souls who only knows how to follow This make sense, which is the reason why i connected the soul thing to the will rather than the moral aspect of the self because it makes more sense. We would need to see a character that it's self aware enough and retain his soul as pure, or a character that seems "good" on the surface but it's actually a tar soul beneath, which i doubt we will find out. The only "pure souls" we have seen so far are Douglas and the Guard which match with your description, but if the Surgeon turns out to be a tar soul himself, then the "will" angle would make more sense, as the "self esteem" of a person is not the constant to what determine where they fall in the soul hierarchy, but rather their inclination to sacrifice the world if it will bring them any closer to their goals and being in agreement with it.
>>548552895Ashley will put her foot down to get him to stop smoking when they are together for real because it's so disgusting. Then he'll quit without much fuss.
>>548553716It doesn't matter to her. But she knows it was a big deal to Andrew since that was the first 'promise' they made to each other and the basis their relationship was built upon. Andrew has been all about rules and promises. If that is broken, Ashley will think any promise he made to her can be easily broken as well and will be mad with insecurity and fear
>>548553262>fanaticFatidic* i mean, lol
>>548554035Ashley should put her foot in his mouthPurely to satiate his oral fixation
Still months away to find out his origins.
>>548553664>>548553757again again not kindness i shouldn't have said that, it was more gratitude (he's still manipulative) my bad>And then he doubled down on not really wanting to because of arbitrary reasons which gave LU even more fuel.more fuel to possibly hatch him, but he's quite literally at the door step no matter what to being a tar soul>Cope response, honestlyHow? The demon didn't seem to give two fucks about the conditions, instead just wanted him to go right ahead to it so he was literally separated. Fuck he even falsely explained that vision to Ashley making it look like her brother was gonna fuck her over.>No, retard. He also picked up with the first smaller circle but he said it was too small and to get a bigger one.Yes thats quite literally the point i was making, the bigger circle is for LU the smaller one would be for ??? >Then he picked up at the big circle assuming it was the chucklefuck(s) who previously used it.No shit, exactly, so this part he wasn't planned out on meeting with andrew right away.
>>548554232please die
>>548554283It's the english way.
>>548552238Why are you so footphobic?
>>548553786>>548552957>>548552890>>548552537Guys its in the fucking post from Nemlei about ashley and sex
Why does ashley want to leave andrew
>>548554570Andrew fucking SUCKS
>>548553861We've only seen Surgeon's carerfeee aspect but we can't presume all of his personality is positive like that considering Ashley also makes jokes and glib comments all the timeYour 'will' hypothesis cannot explain the difference betwern Tar Souls and Tar-Souls-to-be. As I see it Tar Souls to be are ones who accepted they are bad but still couldn't let go of the moral rules completely. For Andrew it was Ashley's well being/Not fucking Ashley. For Renee it was Douglas. And I suspect for Surgeon it was his duty as a doctor to save people. (Since he had to keep his pretense as a Surgeon who saves lives, he never could allow himself to truly let go of everything)
>>548554516>author self-insert
>>548554804>We've only seen Surgeon's carerfeee aspect but we can't presume all of his personality is positive like that considering Ashley also makes jokes and glib comments all the timeRight. The self concept one would be a good angle, as if Ashley hates herself and the world, it would be truly fitting if that's all Tar Souls are all about. Just some condensed embodiment of hatred and self loathing, it has even a poetic ring to it with the way that the demons themselves can ruin their lives.
>>548554270Gratitude for what? Gratitude for having easy access to a Tar Soul and the means to get them? Wow very good reason for LU not to take advantage of that to get the Tar Soul.>more fuel to watch him hatchMost certainly not. Fuel to control him through his insecurities.>Yes thats quite literally the point i was making, the bigger circle is for LU the smaller one would be for ???What are you talking about? Where are you supposed to be going with this? LU "picked up" both times regardless of circle size but the connection wasn't strong enough with the small circle to do anything because it was physically too small for him to teleport there. There is no "meaning" or anything beyond that.>irrelevantok?
>>548554804The surgeon isn't a Tar-Soul-To-Be considering ??? labeled him only as "Possible Tar soul" on the tag, sounding more like he was looking into seeing if he is an actual Tar soul. The doctor doesn't seem to give a fuck about rules cause he's letting people live like cows to the slaughter finding that hot, the only front he's putting up is with the people on the outside of this large operation or ones who try to question their way out like Renee and Douglas, till he just gives up and basically admitting shit with no care.
>>548555201>Gratitude for what?For having summoned him back to the world the decade ago? >Most certainly not. Fuel to control him through his insecuritiesWhy could it not be both hatching and control?>What are you talking about? Where are you supposed to be going with this? LU "picked up" both times regardless of circle size but the connection wasn't strong enough with the small circle to do anything because it was physically too small for him to teleport there.You LITERALLY said it right here! The fucking size of the circle cause LU is too big and powerful for small circles anymore after so long. The smaller one quite more for ??? than LU understand?>IrrelevantExplain how? When you made it sound more like LU had planned this one out?
>>548555336If the Surgeon turns out to be a pure soul who genuinely feels right with everything he's doing, then it's mostly a self concept thing. If the Surgeon ends up being a Tar Soul, the "will" theory will make sense. But i'm more inclined to bet on the former because of the souls we have seen so far. Douglas and Renee for example: Douglas is someone who believed that everything he has done was right as long as Renee was safe, as long as they were together, she turns out a grime soul because without her, he doesn't know why to even live for anymore; while Renee, deep within, knows that she fucked up her life beyond repair, and without Douglas, there would be no point, he's what prevented her for losing it. Ashley was always self centered, and to consider how her action affected Andrew was always an afterthought.
Why would Ashley purposefully pick the right door?
>>548556092I'm done arguing with an ESL that can't even formulate an argument for whatever the fuck purpose you keep talking about the circles for after their purpose in story was already laid out plainly.
>>548556272He has to be a tar soul, otherwise i see no reason for ??? to keep a big eye on him in a locked chest as well saying he very much is possibly a Tar Soul.If he doesn't even care for Grime souls, then i see no reason to care for Pure ones really.
>>548555336I didn't mean that he cares about rules. It's that he still has to uphold the rules of operations when he works on a surgery to save people otherwise nobody will bother to visit his clinic. 'I have to be seen as a good surgeon' is still some form of rules he cannot let go
>>548556795Please learn english and come back with an argument.
>>548556558Just like LU, "???" can only discern what kind of soul the person is once they are faced with them. It's a "possible tar soul", which ended being a wrong impression when he also had the same label with Renee as well, he can be wrong. >>548556392Someone posted a solid theory back in the day about this choice being about Ashley either accepting the reality of her situation or getting deep in the delusion that Andrew was always his bride, which is why she decides to imprison the bunny on the other door, instead of letting Andrew decide for himself and trust him. Something along those lines.
>>548556392Considering Ashley believes she is no good to Andrew, right door implies Ashley really cares about Andrew enough to willingly take the chance to let him go so he can be happy without her. Even if that (in Ashley's eyes) means he'd abandon her to go after some hussy
>>548556392Surrendering to the despair that is the future and accepting that she shouldn't be trying to chain Andrew to her to meet all her needs. Mirroring that she is seeing Andrew as "growing up" and feels the need to do so herself.However she is under the false belief that Andrew is there against his will and actually wanted to be somewhere else, represented by his farce relationship with Julia that we know he didn't like any aspect of.
>>548556392Ashley is shown to be capable of reflection and improvement if she thinks she can trust Andrew.You can have Ashley interpret Andrew's loyalty as a cause to start considering Andrew as his own person with freedom to make his choices for himself(which causes her to be pensive as she's genuenly at a loss on how to proceed now).Or, Double down on self indulgence now that she has Andrew firmly on her side
>>548557090exactly, it's about trust. It's not literally that Andrew is going to trapise off to fuck Julia, but that she's ...okay with the possibility. It's mental peace, a slight acceptance that no matter what, Andrew still loves her. Insane Burial still has her wanting to wrap him around her thumb, it's still toxic.
>>548556710I couldn't see him really caring about the rules of operation since he just gets off on the organs anyway, he isn't saving their live nor anyone elses, so no reason for that.>>548556967>It's a "possible tar soul", which ended being a wrong impression when he also had the same label with Renee as well, he can be wrong.Fair point, i'll concede to that, but i still think he is one considering the Mom always liked to say she was the best mother, even believing it a bit herself. I don't think the Surgeon is saying that about himself.
>>548557128It's baffling how many people accepted Ashley's childish drawings as a vision of a certain future rather than how she perceives her own situation with Andrew. Hence this false image of 'Burial=Optional incest path' 'Decay=Bad End path' that somehow still lingers in other places
>>548557090Ashley knows his relationship with Julia is a farce though, doesn't she? She knows it has no future, she tells him so after he visits Nina's grave with her.
>>548557431Surgeon is amoral piece of shit but he does not derive pleasure from killing people. He only likes cutting up and slicing people, and he knows he has more chance of doing that if he saves his patients. The reason he needed more organs in the first place was that so he can use them in the operations
>>548549774Don't say that! They're gonna grow old together and learn to love and respect each other and everything will work out fine!
>>548557472Are you referring to the endings cards drawings?
>>548557743? I'm not sure where you got that, cause right in the flashback as he is talking to ToxiSoda person, he quite literally does say that Organs get him turned on. Nothing about using them in future operations, the organs and trapping people in their homes just turn him on.
>>548557748If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
>>548557743How did you come up with this interpretation?
>>548557825NTA but probably the 'paintings' at the door select. Used to be a lot more common that idiots thought it meant literally Andrew was going to fuck off back to Julia when it's Ashley's internal mind/fears.
>>548558075>Nothing about using them in future operations,He says he likes cutting up people but can't do it as much as he wants because there's never enough organs, anon. He wants the organs so he could operate people more because that turn him on.
>>548557641She believed it at first because Andrew told her it was a sham and the relationship not being "official". But it's Ashley we're talking about. It was probably always a fear in the back of her head and every day it went on the fear grew a little more until it became full blown cope. Especially after they started fucking.
>>548558075Yes. Touching organs and slicing people up makes him cum, but that's it. He never said 'I want to murder someone like Jack the Ripper'. I never said 'Surgeon cares about saving people's lives.' Only that 'He knows doing his job correctly is profitable for him so he does it right'. Surgeon is a famous well known individual with a huge clinic. How the fuck would that possible if he killed the patients he got his hands on?
>>548553124Ashley will somehow ask Andrew to prove his loyalty by killing Julia like in SnS, but instead of saying no he will actually do it.
>>548558516He's still running an organ trafficking ring, and most of the revenue is part of the association of Toxi Soda with the clinic. Every single patient that was sent off in an ambulance from the quarantine was sent off to die on his hands.
>>548549774No they will live to the old age and go to heaven after they die because that would be fucking funnyIt turns out souls we've seen were not protected because they didn't believe in Jesus Christ
If Andrew had the opportunity, how much of his time would be spent rubbing Ashley's tits?
>>548494819im an immoral fag, retard
>>548558374>He wants the organs so he could operate people more because that turn him onIt's more than that he gets turned on by the organsby cutting people upby even locking people up too in their own homeshe has no care if they die only really for the organs
>>548559017Truly the most complex character in this treatise.
>>548558824Organ trafficking ring is nothing but 'Preparing things I need for my play' to him. He doesn't fucking derive pleasure from killing people in that way. Surgeon is involved in killing, yes. But it's only a subsidiary he does so he can do more of his surgery, the main thing
I just want them to be happy, bros.
>>548559151not him but he's still getting his pleasure even if they die, cause he still cuts them up. He may not want the organs to die so he can cut up more people, but it's not like he isn't getting pleasure from ones that died still, not going on a murderer spree but he still gets his pleasure either way.
Surely Andrew the Alcoholic wouldn't pimp his sister out for money for booze, right?WtfThis whole "I'll do anything for you" turn is really turning me away from Coffin, yuck
>>548559440please stop fantasizing about cuckoldry
>>548559151This is actually an interesting angle. What if it's true? What if this is just another way to express this profession? Just like JG Ballard Crash novel kind of situation. I mean, think about it: The guy it's so passionate about a job that literally depend on people on the verge of death, so what does he do? He create this situation that create more sickness so he have more opportunities to impart on his own passion. He actually doesn't kill people, or even did all of this for money, he did it because the nature of his job depend on people suffering from deadly situations that require his help, so he can do what he loves the most: Being a surgeon. This adds up, this guy absolutely is a white soul, and the reveal of this aspect will be hilarious.
>>548559440he has never once wanted to pimp his sister out, he even threatens to punch her lights out for suggesting that in episode 2 seeing the numbers on the wall.
>>548558306I won't let your negativity affect me! They WILL be happy and the pessimists ITT WILL cry and shit their pants!
>>548559570he doesn't care if they die either anon, he just doesn't want the organs to go to waste so he can cut up others, he even gets off on trapping people in their own homes like cattle.
>>548559494it's what Ashley insinuated in the video.That he whored her out. I hope that's just ESL writing on Nemlei's part and doesn't mean what I think it means.
>>548559878That wasn't insinuated. You injected it.
Andrew and Ashley sitting in a tree...
>>548559952F-U-C-K-I-N-G
>>548559369Maybe so. But The point I originally wanted to make is, >'When the Surgeon does his job as a 'Surgeon' facing his clients (who are not organ fodders), he has to do the job right otherwise nobody will bother to visit his clinic. That's his limit.'Idk why anons here are trying to say this is wrong. 'Surgeon kills people duh' I fucking know. But he still has to work as a legit surgeon if he continue to work as a fucking surgeon
>>548559952H-A-N-G-I-N-G from a rope!
>>548558867Technically the souls they offered to these entities are neither in heaven nor hell, the siblings are guilty of forcing limbo on a few people.
>>548560017First comes love, then comes marriage
>>548559017>he has no care if they die only really for the organsThat doesn't change what he does with the organs.
>>548559878Andrew wasn't serious about thinking Ashley would do it with anybody, he was calling bullshit on her saying sex didn't mean anything to her.
>>548559828Yeah sure, but that's besides the point. What if he actually think this is right? How does the pharmaceutical industries even sustain themselves if people can take care of their own health on their own terms? How a surgeon can even partake on his own job if no one needs him? So he did this in order to be able to. Tar Souls are opposed to the world they find themselves into, which is why they even agree to work with demons in the first place. The Surgeon seems to be having a blast, and it's at peace with his own place in the world it seems.
>>548560092They still visit him either way, even the ones that died from starvation or other means where they're trapped at. He's the one with the Organs and famously known, if he can hide a whole organ operation with a bunch of others in on it he could probably hide the death count at his clinic and shut the other people up.
>>548559952something tells me they heard this a lot growing up
I'm crazy if I liked this update?>t. been dooming and glooming about Chapter 3 for months
>>548559936Well I certainly hope so. I just rewatched the vid and Ashley says: "I let you make a whore out of me". That's a really weird way of saying "I feel used" or whatever
>>548560421Organ fodders fucking don't count because they are not his clientsSurgeon was already a successful doctor even before he met the Sodaman and concocted Organ ring business
>>548560357>What if he actually think this is right?Thats a fair thing to ask, but i just don't believe he would think that himself. He knows this is wrong and the world wouldn't agree with that, but he couldn't give a fuck and continues his own way against the world anyway.
>>548554516>unmet needs (platonic and sexual alike)What exactly are Ashley's sexual needs? Besides a few moments in Cliffhanger, and burial, she doesn't strike me as a very sexual person.
Maybe decay is not so bad after all. I may even tolerate what comes before this chapter just for this new scene
>>548560187Then comes the fucked up baby in a carriage~
>>548560896Realistically we probably haven't seen Ashley's sexuality fully explored yet.
So is Andrew saying that Ashley didn't came or didn't enjoy the sex supposed to be an exaggeration or factual? I've seen other anons said she clearly enjoys sex in other routes of the game like Shots and Such but maybe I'm retarded
>>548560092I think we're forgetting that we are talking about an Invader Zim kind of absurdist dystopia, which eccentric individuals don't think in usual terms.
>>548560357>At peace with himselfDunno. Surgeon is suffering from serious sexual fetish. We don't know if he really feels good about the situation where he can only get hard with organs around. I like to jest about incest and holler 'WOO WINCEST' like Surgeon flaunts his love for organs because I accepted the fact Im a perv but inside I'm really tormented and disgusted about how I am this way and the way I think about my sister
>>548561458He's making fun of her because she's lying to his face. He made her cum. And welp, because she doesn't really understand sex on an intimate level, she freaks out and is ashamed of that.
>>548561550>Surgeon is suffering from serious sexual fetish.I don't think he's "suffering" from it, tho? Besides, even if others relate to your situation, not everyone is self loathing. Embracing it is always an option, and you're forgetting that he was the one to get the entire gist moving in the first place. He is doing what he loves, and it shows so far. I think this "tormented being underneath" fits more Six Eyes than the Surgeon at this point.
>>548560896Ashley is down almost as bad as Andrew is. There's a reason she gets on top of him so much.
>>548561926She likes keeping him from moving away?
>>548561827>Six EyesI doubt it. If SE was Tar Soul LU or other demons wouldn't have just ignore or antagonize him.He seems like an amibtious, malicious average cult leader who's only tormented by the incompetence of the lackeys
>>548561926Something tells me there's more to Ashley's sexual appetite than we're led to believe. The childish facade hides someone, who deep down, really wants to show her brother how much she loves him. Hell, I think the attempted to seduce him in his teenage years was way more than just her teasing him.
>>548561998Not quite.
>>548562514god dammit i like the acne on them and all, but it's so small i keep thinking i got something on my fucking screen.>>54856267220$
>>548562672 the price of the full game 5 times
>>548562672about tree fiddy (probably like 20 bucks)
>>548562672I'd pay 70 bucks for it if I need to.
>>548562672>paying for porn>everNot gonna happen. Not even if Nemnems drew it.
>>548562672Why was this deleted?
>>548562672I saw what you posted. You can't hide your Reddit watermark
>>548561998>>548561926That's how Ashley demands attention.
>>548563179>Waaah! Give me attention, big brother, and i'll bounce on your cock!
>>548562264Never mentioned that he was a Tar Soul (i think this is why LU is so pissed off at him it seems), but he does fit better with the tragic kind than the surgeon, which in comparison the later is almost comically proud of his deeds.
>>548563278This, but unironically.
Either way i think they're gonna be looking for the surgeon and run into the cult leader, it makes no sense for them both to be back at that same bar.
>>548561668So Ashley is freaking out because she wants to keep her Leyley persona or something like that? I'm happy we have another confirmed sex scene but sometimes I really don't understand the characters in this route
>>548563521Cult Leader happening to be near that bar also sounds like too much of a coincidence...
>>548563521Yes, in Burial it makes sense they run into the cult once more looking for some hoodlum that give them fake ID's.
>>548556967>the delusion that Andrew was always his bridePlease re-read that.>>548557090>>548557128>>548557223>>548557402See, I'm one of those dumbasses who went on about how the left door ought to be the "good ending" because it seemed to result in Andrew subsequently looking the happiest at the bridge (and, yeah, also because of the vision - not that sex is the end-all be-all of a relationship, but it painted a picture of a future where they appear comfortable and secure enough with each other to do it without any evident signs of it being nonconsentual or anything), while selectively ignoring the (obviously) unhealthy vibes of the imagery of Ashley being all possesive of Andrew in the left door. You are right that it is more toxic, and she needs to learn to trust Andrew in order for things to get better.But still I'm a bit hung up on Andrew's differing behavior afterwards, especially since I've seen an interesting interpretation that the reason Andrew leaves the bed early in the Sane route is because he actually witnesses Ashley's door choice in the dream and it makes him feel rejected and act more distant, becuase he thinks she thinks he still wants to be with a hussy and can't see that he actually loves her.
Reminds me of the 'Something Kind' scene except Ashley looks like she's about to go Postal for some reason.
>>548563682Gotta be a run in>>548563693this can't be burial cause she still has to finish up Decay.
>>548563787She looks frightened.
>>548563787He's going to FUCK Ashley
>>548563787I wonder what the context of this scene is. Ashley look like something inside her just snapped because someone besides Andrew showed her some kindness.
>>548563787She looks frightened here compared to Andrews own "something kind"
>>548563656>because she wants to keep her Leyley personaBasically. I think others have said this and worded it more eloquently but I'll reiterate: because she doesn't want to grow up. She clings to her inner child, and she views that as very much going against such things. She needs an actual lesson on sex and intimacy, at least in a healthy, monogamistic way. And since SnS is the route where they chose not to actually fix themselves, Andrew decides not to do that.
>>548563716There's definitely room for Andrew also taking the wrong lesson from it as well, though it could also just be that he didn't see a vision so he left.
>>548546175>what if it's all actually the standard expectations that Nemlei set, instead of /calg/'s homecooked schizo theory..?
>>548563787Ashley is going to try to punch that man and whiff
>>548563787She looks like when an autistic kid is touched by a person they haven't allowed to.
>>548563787OKAY now i'm thinking we're getting a switch perspective to what Ashley was doing while Andrew was with LU, and this is where she's probably on out to hunt for souls most likely pissed thinking Andrew left her (frightened maybe of if he comes to hunt her down) to which leads to THE BAR maybe and he found her, wanting to talk and she's trying to get away.
>>548564064Theories can be fun, it's like a horse race kind of situation. There's an offshot of chance that the burial crowd may be right.
>>548564064No, impossible!
>>548563965>Ashley look like something inside her just snapped because someone besides Andrew showed her some kindness.I think it's something like that but in a negative way. In a 'Only my favorite person is allowed to do that!' autism / bpd way.
>>548564187>rightened maybe of if he comes to hunt her down) to which leads to THE BAR maybe and he found her, wanting to talk and she's trying to get awayFew problems with this:1. How did she get there? Did someone just by happenstance try to summon ??? in the area (wont rule it out because the cult, duh)2. How did HE get there?3. Did he even know where she was? 4. If he did, how?
>>548564187A perspective switch would make sense.Maybe instead of hunting for souls, she's trying to find him, thus contacting the cult because ??? won't help.
>Ashleys on a mission to look for the surgeon see what ??? thinks if he's actually a tar soul or not so he doesn't fuck up like he did with Renee>See Andrew is following her leading to the Bar she was investigating for ???>He wants to "talk" she thinks he wants to fuck over the demon stuff>Cue where she's saying right out loud near that bartender of being followed homeIt's a chase
>>548563787Her reaction and talking to Andrew about it might actually bring him back to reality.>creepy old man touching Ashley>trying to comfort her like a parental figure too>makes him reflect on LU doing the same to him and him just giving in to creepy behavior like nothing.>>548564187Ehhhh. Andrew probably takes her to the cultists and this scene eventually happens during a private talk or something. Previous devlog implied as much.
>>548542064I'm not a woman or gay but I immediately thought this was hot
>>548550984He's obviously naked. Besides Nemlei always draws the sleeves.
>>548546175>>548564064What makes you think the screenshots are from Burial and not Decay in the first place?
>>548563787>"I wonder if six eyes are tastier than two"
>>548564654Just assume it's all decay. Even I personally at one point wanted burial so much more, but after experiencing the kino that was decay, made me realize it ultimately didn't matter that much. People are just coping. Unless stated otherwise, assume it's all decay.
>>5485644281. Could be the cult as said or even just some random bumfuck but could be to look over the bar since he still is interested if the surgeon is or isn't a tar soul to which Andrew is there maybe waiting2. LU did send him through a portal so possibly him3. LU again4. Portals>>548564468It's gotta be hunting for souls cause that whole shtick hasn't stopped i would suspect>>548564551I think thats later after an actual "Talk" why there? I don't even know
>>548563656Listen.Because of a memory Andrew abandoning her and chasing after a hussy (She thinks Andrew only made a girlfriend to have sex), refusing her advance and cutting contact for a year, Ashley thinks sex is a malicious act men and whore women engage in to sate their disgusting appetite. This act has nothing to do with love. And she also thinks she holds 0 sexual appeal to him and he doesn't care for her at all.And she found out the way he responded after a long silence was the childish game of Andy and Leyley. Hence the reason she was obsessed with it, because she thought that's the only way she can have influence over him. In SnS, when Andy is gone and traditional ways stopped working, Ashley figured out giving her body to sate his dirty sexual appetite is the way to bound him to her. But she decided not to feel good because 1. That would mean she is just like the whores who took away Andrew2. She has to be the one who gives, the one who has the advantage over him. 3. She wants him to know that her feelings toward him is real, unlike fickle lust
>>548564934>It's gotta be hunting for souls cause that whole shtick hasn't stopped i would suspectIt's probably something like 'You won't help find my brother? Okay, I need to go back to Earth, totally to find souls for you'.
>>548564934>2. LU did send him through a portal so possibly him>3. LU againEh, I don't know. LU maybe a powerful being, but to assume it has the ability to track people? We don't know that. Hell, it seems that it's encounters with Andrew have always been on accident.
>>548552537>Leyley doesn't enjoy sexI swear to fuck, it's like this devlog vid factory reset your brains or some shit...Did we not just watch Ashley rape Andrew while he was drunk? It's one extreme vs the other with her.Let me explain this shit Nemlei said, so that you all fucking get it.Think of a spoiled selfish brat with a childlike mentality when it comes to her own desires, who only wants you to do what she says, but at the same time, she also doesn't want you to leave, so she will do whatever to make you stay. If you want sex, then she doesn't want it, it feels gross but she'll just take it if it keeps you around, but bitch about it later, because you had the audacity to want something.If you don't want sex, but you just do whatever the fuck she says when she says it and don't argue with her, she'll happily bounce on your cock for her own enjoyment, as long as you don't expect or want anything in return, you're just her perfect playmate.That's Ashley.
>>548564934There is way too much chance going on with it being a random occurrence that they meet again and not just Andrew being put back where he was with all the souls he needs for the deal with ??? by LU to continue LU's plan unabated.
>>548565058i dunno about that cause she was easily manipulated by the "vision" from ??? so i think this might be where shes a little frightened by andrew for a while?>>548565109It was trying to look for where she was through his memories to, so it could just go>Hmmm, she seemed a bit into wanting to get back at that surgeon guy that Andrew told her no against>Check there just in caseLU is pretty smart and much more powerful
>trying to groom Ashley as your successor>she sacrifices you and all the dorky 6 eyes cultists in order to ascend to Entity tier
>>548563787That look could just be Ashley being surprised by the touch since she was thinking about something.>>548565326Ashley being scared of Andrew doesn't include her wanting to be separated, she'd rather die than that.
>>548565349LU is using Andrew to get to Ashley so that this could happen, basically. I think the conflict will come from Andrew slowly breaking LU's curse, seeing what his dear little sister is becoming, and try to put a stop to it.
>>548564936But she enjoys sex in other routes and here she is the first to make a sexual advance towards Andrew. The mean spirited comments the siblings have toward each other don't represent reality at all
>>548563656Yeah newestfag. That's been /calg/ consensus for months now.
>>548565521>Ashley being scared of Andrew doesn't include her wanting to be separated, she'd rather die than that.She may not want to be separated, but she's being easily manipulated against Andrew and what he could do to her. So i could see a frightened Ashley trying to escape from him cause of some Vision ??? shows her, or whatever his explanation is where Andrew went.
>>548563656>So Ashley is freaking out because she wants to keep her Leyley persona or something like that?Yes, she wants and enjoy sex but it doesn't fit her fantasy of Andy and Leyley, that's basically what Nemlei said in the dev log.so the only way to make it work in Ashley's mind is if she doesn't enjoy the sex and is only doing it to keep Andrew around as a pure transaction. That's why she freaks out after enjoying it because it completely break her fantasy.Also since Ashley was raised on old soap operas and televangelist TV, she think enjoying sex is for whores while using sex as a tool or a transaction doesn't count / make sense.
>>548566057Even in SnS she wasn't running despite seeing constant death visions while he was locked up. She's not running or trying to escape from him.
>>548566094Andrew, you better fucking make her realize in one of the routes. Hopefully it's the one she abandons Leyley cough cough burial sane cough
>>548565617>Other routesWe don't know what happened there and Ashley thinking sex is a gross, loveless travesty is a default state before the whole thing began>Sexual advanceShe was fucking drunk and her guard slipped. She does have repressed sexual feelings, as Nemlei stated
>>548566297And in SPLAT, she literally jump to her death with him despite not wanting to and being scared to tears.
>>548565606What I'm saying is that she could become her own Entity in Cliffhanger, in SnS ??? says that even if she manages to ascend she'll be under his thumb because of all accumulated favors she owes him (saving her from Andrew, allowing her to transport his corpse, not punishing him for stealing a bunch of souls..etc). SnS Ashley would've been like a vampire's ghoul if she ascended but this shouldn't be the case for Cliffhanger Ashley.
>I couldn't fuck your insecurities out of you >it might have worked if you hadn't been such a dick in the morningThese lines say a lot if you really think about it.
>>548563870>>548563985It's literally the same expression on Andrew's face when LU unexpectedly headpatted him, and it's one of Nemlei's many shameless obvious parallels (like the "I don't want to - Well I do").
>>548566745It's funny because they could both be saying either line.
>>548566980Ashley is a different person tho. She has and worships Andrew while not liking anyone else or the thought of them interacting with her.Andrew was basically abandoned by his parental figures.
>>548566980Nah, the eyes look different.
>>548566980It's in the eyebrows.Ashley looks more shocked.Andrew looks more concerned and uncertain.Either way >>548567173 she doesn't want anybody but Andrew while Andrew didn't have real parents and an obviously self-interested demon is pretending to be one. He knows it's wrong but he's falling for it anyways.
>>548566482I was laughing my ass out at that "hey brats, check this out!" part, but that last frame snapped me back into the misery of it all. Andrew is laughing as they are falling, but she is genuniely scared. She doesn't want to die, but she can't be without Andrew either. And keep in mind that this is after she spent a good chunk of the episode defending Andrew and pleading with ??? to not do anything with Andrew even though he was trying to kill her.Hence I absolutely cannot believe that what we are seeing in today's screenshot is Ashley actively trying to get away from Andrew. There must be more to the situation.
>>548565606Andrew already knows, and tells her so in his notes. That's why he's so desperate to get her away from ???.
Holy fuck, fast /calg/ is back... My worst nightmare...>uptick in discussion which is good, but inevitable re-explanation, correction and re-discussion of everything because of newfags who haven't been here for the times we have already established the basics>sloppa and cuck posting inevitably returns a little>i CAN'T keep up with the thread and it takes at least 40 mins to reach the current, while new posts are still being madeThankfully this energy will die down immadiately after a week or two, maybe even a couple of days. I love you /kalj/.
>>548567579Very early someone already theorized the siblings were trying to lure someone to get sacrificed. Makes infinitely more sense than her trying to get away from Andrew, unless Andrew is so warped in the head from LU at that point that he's nothing like he should be
>>548567579>actively trying to get away from Andrew.To be fair, we don't have the full context yet. It could be them trying to lure the bartender out, or cause a scene. She's saying this line out loud, probably not to far out of earshot of Andrew, who's probably being attentive.
>>548563787I think she's thinking "So that's what affection from people other than Andy feels like? Gross">>548567579>Hence I absolutely cannot believe that what we are seeing in today's screenshot is Ashley actively trying to get away from Andrew. There must be more to the situation.Same. I think at worst it's Ashley being a dick to Andrew and getting him in trouble for being mean to her.
>>548567726Kek, expect it for the next week or so. Once we've thoroughly exhausted all we can, discussion wise, out of the new content.
>>548566405>She does have repressed sexual feelingsThat seems to be the inherently the issue here yeah. I wonder if this infantilization of the character is supposed to be the recurring theme of decay
>>548567579Some anon might have that ebin post I made like six months ago about the melancholy of Splat! If anyone does, please post it because I'd like to archive it for myself and also because it's vaguely relevant.
>>548567907I think a route in which Ashley gets away from a possible Murdrew is a storyline that is yet to be revealed to us (like Burial), especially in this way where it looks casual (compared to SnS where he runs after her with a cleaver and what not). But I don't know at the same time I also have this gut feeling telling me she's genuinely trying to get away from Andrew for some plan that she thinks he's going to botch. Maybe Ashley's gotten so good at deception that she even fools the audience now, just like how Andrew used to fool all the foids on the Internet that he dindu nuffin back in the day.
>>548567907Yeah but then we started getting takes like >>548517967 and now we're not sure.
>>548568268>infantilization of the characterThey both do it a lot in this chapter, that's part of it. Sure. Ashley regressing back because of the rough patches they're going through. Honestly it's hard not to feel bad for them, despite being total objective peices of trash. I hope things are way more peachy in other outcomes.
>>548566297>>548566482I feel like those were a little different compared to here at the cliffhanger ending, seeing as Andrew and her did fight, he left right after being a dick talking about not trusting the demon or being there any longer. Add to that the manipulations with ??? and it could easily add up in her small brain that finally wanted away from her and the demon shit.In those others he still came right back right away or stayed, right now they're both being pushed mentally to the limit by the demons.
>>548567993Yeah that's another thing, I thought that line was in parentheses until I noticed anons are talking like she is saying it out loud. It just felt like something she would say in her mind if she actually thought of that. But of course we don't have the context.
>>548568637>weWho is "we" africanoid? And why would the bartender be the one responding to her loudly saying that next to 2 cultists who are obviously more important?
>>548568719>despite being total objective peices of trashI have never understood this position. Killing bad people doesn't make you bad. I don't see how the siblings are bad at all. Except when they're assholes to each other.
>Androo... Yoo lookin pretty hot today yknow that?>Why donchu take off yur pants..?
I'm gonna call itNemlei is lying about many more months left thingIt's either coming out on Christmas or next month just as a surprise
This is nice and all but when are we getting burial?>and our next major episode update is still many months ahead.Holy fuck.
>>548569207Meds.
>>548569047>I don't see how the siblings are bad at allI mean, they killed the campers
>>548569207>devlog out for less than 24 hours>already copium
>>548569207>warning: vital signs critical>copium administered
>>548541754Without spoiling me, is there a guide for someone like me who only wants to follow the romance route?
>>548569364>>548569409>>548569446i am completely right on thisBefore releasing 3A she was just needing a little bit longer but people wanted it anyway despite her warningMaybe the Hotfixes for the episode set her back a bit but i think it's already about close to done
>>548569371They were asking for it tho
>>548569548I will screenshot your post to mock you in 6-8 months.
>>548569047It's a new/moralfag standpoint. Nobody really cares what the Graves did after it's done, even when you kill the child people react at the moment and think it's so heckin evil and then never think about again. Unless when, you guessed it, they do bad things towards EACH OTHER. Everyone actually has a built-in OURHEROES™ response and tries to either justify everything they do or they just don't care. Calling them "objective pieces of trash" is just unnatural.
>>548569646I will take it then, i know this shit is almost done considering it's NemleiShe was almost there had the vote leaned towards Delaying it, it probably would've been out by December or January instead
>>548569646maybe not that long, but definitely not as soon as anon copes about
>>548569825You guys literally hoped this last devlog into existence so I'm personally actually gonna keep my mouth shut this time.
it is me or in this update andy and leyley are more lovey-dovey toward each other? I liked that a lot
>>548569968It feels out of character.
>>548569968Is the update in the thread with us anon?
>>548569968They're too drunk and sad to be mean to each other for their usual stupid reasons.
>>548569961They hoped every fucking month since she said no more monthly devblogs. I fucking knew that 1 instance of it eventually happening would have retards huffing their own jenkum and eating the remains as though it's divine caviar.
>>548447008it's over
>>548570023>said at least one person everytime we get any new content
hmmm guess we are switching to Ashleys POV
>>548569653even putting the objetive morality oxymoron aside, 99% of what they did in the game is just self-defense and preservation. they would be dead otherwise. but is not like I care about them being pristine moral compass, morally ambiguous characters are more interesting
>>548570353She saw them.
>>548570353Demony>>548570460saw them all
>>548568232I normally just check the threads when I wake up and before I go to bed, I hate when I can't do that because believe it or not I actually want to function in my daily life. I have been kind of desensitized from Coffin ever since we didn't get any more devlogs and I didn't have to stay up to feed my /colgate/ addiction because it's slow and one post per hour, but now... Let me go to bed man.
>>548570023actually this is in-character for both of them. nemlei finally heard all the bullshit complains about out-of-character and decided to cut back on the miseryporn.
>>548570598btw possibly leaning more towards her running away from Andrew and being frightened by him
>>548570310Nemlei HATES incest
>>548570434>morally ambiguous characters are more interestingThis. They're deeper and more relateable because even the most average person can be very evil given the chance, so since the dawn of history, all eventful stories and tales told have the type of heroes that would've been called "anti-heroes" today.
>>548570890More like fixing him.
>>548569968>>548570023>>548570859Oh for fucks sake they're DRUNKThat's the whole point they're drunk, leyley took her guard down and Ashley came back, then in the morning she hates it as she reverts back to Leyley. It's in the SNS timeline, but yes if they get over their shit they would act like this more.
>>548570890She will have to kill Andrew
>>548570979She just pretends to so that she has legitimate influence until he uses it all to form the delphic ethnostate. Trust the plan.
>>548570598hmmm okay the portal thing or whatever that is, is interesting to me now>>548570890>In a car>Not sure who that is anymoreLU take over Andrews body maybe?
>>548571220Brotherless theory
>>548571271the delphostate
>>548571325>takes overUnlikely.>covers up a critical part of him (eg, seriousness, worry, etc)Much more likely. You forget I hope you forget and aren't just a tourist that that image was accompanied by >>548564551 acting out of character in a goofy way.
>>548571549ahhh you're right lol i forgot then
>>548571663Holy fuck, glow harder
>>548571663what the hell is a djscord?
>>548571663Were you on /x/ by any chance? You seem familiar.
i miss slow /calg/. the update brought forth the masses from the east, who settled this fine place, turning it into bombay; overcrowded, open defaecation and all. i want the cosy town i know and love back.
>>548571990yes ive posted it there sometimes
>>548572179hush, tourist
>>548571663>Cropped loliDon't be a pussy and post the full thing you glowing faggot
>>548572237In the LoA thread, if i'm not mistaken. Shitting up the decent places as usual, right?
https://x.com/scooub/status/1992285038856012163
>>548572494>>548550806This is what it's all about.
>>548568719>Honestly it's hard not to feel bad for them, despite being total objective peices of trash. I hope things are way more peachy in other outcomes.This is one of the most fascinating things about the game, and feeds into possibly my biggest worry about the future of the story. Whenever there is a conversation about "good endings", there is always someone opining along the lines of "They are shit people and cannot be fixed, they don't deserve a happy ending. The only good ending there can be is if they go to prison/kill each other/etc."But it's their story. I WANT them to have a happy ending. I want to see them grow and get better and make up and make out and escape the consequences of their actions and live happily ever after. Because they are the main characters and I've spent many hours following them around, getting emotionally invested in their lives and sympathizing with them knowing they went through hell. Them being psycho murderers doesn't change that. Because if there is no growth and happiness in the end after all the abuse and misery, what's even the point?Is it wrong? Should they really get a good outcome? Would it make the story "cheap" if they do?
>>548550806>>548572494>>548551056Based
>>548572257smelly jeet, you took our jobs, and now you're taking our beloved /calg/.
>>548572732This update already has a more positive tone than the previous one making it immediately better
>>548572494
>>548572732>>548573591it has already been explained by her anyway to get through the problems for a good ending, not pretend they aren't there/bury them.
>>548572732>Would it make the story "cheap" if they do?cheap would be doing shitty endings and pretending thats deep. nemlei is not a hack
>>548569507No. There is no "romace route". Or rather, all possible routes are romance in a way, because the game is inherently about the complicated relationship between the two main characters. But they are not, strictly speaking, good for each other. The only complete ending that exists at the moment is one where they end up the worst versions of themselves, and it's not pretty. We can only hope that other outcomes will be better. But the game is still in development, and we won't have the complete picture for a few years probably.
>>548572732>They are shit people and cannot be fixed, they don't deserve a happy ending. The only good ending there can be is if they go to prison/kill each other/etcThis is objectively true yet I can't help being sympathetic to them. I hope the theory about them freeing the souls and reviving all the people who didn't deserve it turns out to be true.
>>548572732>Whenever there is a conversation about "good endings", You shoot it down because that's normie tier shit. There's happy endings, Non Standard Game Overs, and just...endings. The 'bad ending/good ending' is cope from the moralist tourists who often think Decay was the 'good' ending and didn't know Burial doesn't have an ending yet. I refer you to Nem's own words:
Alright, my time for a schizo theory AHEM! >>548570598this pic is time travel soon
>>548572732>They are shit people and cannot be fixed, they don't deserve a happy endingSee, if Nemlei listen to this crowd, she already set this one to fail, which is not going to happen because she has a solid record. Thiu? He doesn't "deserve" a happy ending, he's a slacker, a depressed good for nothing, edonistic slob that brings everyone down, so his only good ending has to be one where he dies. Lynn? He's a religious fanatic, executioner for a murderous cult, that is already inclined to either let everyone die or to kill his family for his God, any of this with not remorse being able to live with whatever he choses, he doesn't "deserve shit either". Noelle lies to people and let a demon infiltrate her village for cash, the guys from CS are literal eldritch demons bandits, and so on, and so forth. See, this is what's so great about this one. Nemlei won't give in to that part inside her head because it's just not who she is. There's going to be an absolutely triumphant ending that doesn't give a fuck about anything but her heroes being happy and fulfilled despite everything they went trough. Nemlei will deliver, because being able to express this much free will is the fundamental part of what makes her stories so great, because it's about people who rise above everything and are dead set in sacrificing an useless world if their dreams are at the stake. It's another kind of heroism, because in this world everyone will tell you that nobody deserves dogshit, everyone derserves to die like dogs: And yet, this people LIVE because they decided that what they desire is right. I resonate with the feeling, so mad kudos to her. Trust the fucking plan, i'll say, she will deliver.
>>548573936I don't know if I will be stoned to death for this, but I always thought the>Leyley, I don't want to>Well I do!parallel thing was... cringy, lol. It sounds like something I would've made fun of saying "Holy shit guys did you notice that's a reference to the start of the game omg this is so deeeeeep!!!1!!1" if I weren't a fan.
>>548574853It was a solid parallel that shows how bad they regressed into a downward spiral. I think you may be autistic.
>>548574160Again with the "objektivleyley chru", madone! This sounds so faggy.>>548574345God I love Nemlei.
>>548575006There's like one fucker who complains about the 'milennial writing', like, fuck off, its fine. "well that just happened" yea people say that seriously. Wow there's callbacks and parallels. It doesn't mean nemlei is Joss Wedon or marvel.
im gonna be honestI think the stalker thing is actually just the cult leader of six eyes instead stalking her which is why she looked frightened lmao over thinking it with it being Andrew which doesn't make sense no matter what
>>548575006Bullshit man! I know I'm not the only one thinking "I would've made fun of this were I not a fan". All the anons who had the same experience as me, back me up.
>>548575441No shit sherlock, of course you may look down on it if you didn't like it. That's common sense.
>>548575235Yeah I'm not that, but I can't lie that line felt so cheesy it never registered to me as an actually nice parallel. I swear I still love Nemlei and the story, by Nemlei!!>>548575278Wait why didn't we think of that. That actually makes sense. It is a possibility considering we don't know the context.
Call me when we get more Julia
>>548574307nemlei still has to deliver a conclusion to both routes. decay is incomplete and we literally know nothing about burial. which is wild when you think about it because it's supposed to have its own branches meaning that it will we as long as decay or longerso far decay is mostly regression and negative outcomes for the siblings. but with this devlog finally we see their relationship moving forwardburial is a mystery besides the sex scene. but only when the two routes are complete you can say which one is better
>>548574329I doubt it honestly.
>>548575694>I am a "fan" of the game for only one (1) thing in the gameNever come back
>>548575694>blocks number
>>548575235>"I don't trust that woman to keep her mouth shut unless she's dead, and- She's right behind us, isn't she?"Wow, really lame writing on Nemlei's part.
>>548575716Oh for sure. But its just so many arses and drivebys around were like 'ZOMG INCEST? BAD END!' then when the Incest got into every route (and was there since ch1) and its just great seeing Nemlei shoot it down again and again but we must reload her cannons when needed
>>548575978Time travel is the gayest and shittiest thing in all of media and used almost exclusively by hack writers.
>>548575716Decay was only long as it is cause of all the flashbacks going on, Burial doesn't have that so i don't think it'll be as long.
>>548576203It'll probably have it's own bunch of flashbacks but I doubt as many.
>>548576172Radiant Historia was good. But i do agree that using time travel as a lever to undo choices instead of saving things among the ruins it's boring and shit and lame.
>>548576172Oh! I misread that thinking that was for me LOL wrong anon, i didn't say anything about time travel
>>548576392We also already have more than enough borderline timefuckery with flashbacks and memories.
>>548576339My bet is we'd see a lot more stuff from Ashley, dealing with her friends at school, maybe a date attempt with another guy - maybe she did try out Dbag but it didn't work - and whatever the fuck she was doing for a solid year without Andrew before the quarantine
>>548576575Flashback and memories are not revisiting points in time to change the experience. I mean, it's actually a great idea, but not for this for this one.
>>548576039>Are we truly doing this? After decaying along, we will bury Andy and Leyley in this coffin?What the hell is this
>>548575683>Wait why didn't we think of thatCause everyone was overthinking the fuck out of it, which i guess i can't blame? but the cult leader stalking her would sound right instead>Fucking around with the cult stuff>he did something>She's looking down with a frightened look while he's giving that little advice or speech
>>548576172I think time travel is a very fascinating concept and I fucking love it when authors do cool creative shit with it. But goddam it has become so overused lately, every popular story/franchise seems to wants to shove it in for some reason. It's become a sore along with multuniverses and shit. And definitely has no place in TCOAAL.
>>548576628>whatever the fuck she was doing for a solid year without Andrew before the quarantineTrying new recipes like oat cookies, hating herself for ruining her love life with her brother bf, watching slasher movies and incest porn (grown desensitized to both), crying, etc etc.
>>548576339Heavily doubting that as Decay seems to have them, might be whats coming up in part 2 is Ashleys versions.
Too many wordsPost images
>>548576718
>>548577034We all know what she does when Andrew isn't around...
>>548574307I choose NO 2 times in the poll on Steam about having Decay first before Burial. This is just an excuse because she decided to push for Decay anyway. Everyone has a favorite ending they consider superior in any game with branching stories like visual novels. Anyone who says they consider all the endings equal is lying. The only thing I hope is she actually delivers for the fucking long waiting she is giving for Burial and doesn't come with more lame ass excuses like this one
>>548576039>"This episode will be titled 'The Coffin of Andy and Leyley'"Are you serious?
>about having Decay first before Burialdo not respond
>>548577196You can tell the discussion is slowly decreasing already kek (or I'm delulu). Don't worry, you'll have plenty of time for your images.>>548577252Absolute slander. Ashley has never even seen her cooch. Why do you think she's so histerical?
>>548577034incest porn, in the 90s? Those are some hefty vhs to have around, they seem to all use the same media center...
Man they're lucky their in the 90's and not the 21st century otherwise they are caught on camera doing satanic shit right away...
>>548577526It's a running gag on /colgate/ that Ashley watches incest porn ever since that corny ass unironic "big brother" line in SnS (she got it from watching porn to educate herself).
>>548577704Which is not too much trouble considering that nowadays we live in a highly materialistic era where magic and manifestation is still part of fringe spaces, not to mention that every supernatural event would be called "AI montage" and leave it as that. They would have fared decently in this regard. In the psychological one however...
>>548577704Satanic shit being their greatest crime, of course.
>>548577925I think it'd be identified right away with the News blasting that shit, maybe internet would be torn between AI or for real this time? Cause i mean... the fucking news is reporting someone just completely dead after that with video footage, thats not escaping the public eye.>>548577973People would just make memes of them being incest fuckers but still completely on the "HOLY SHIT DEMONS!"
>>548577341You jest, but this line exists
>>548577801Another one while I'm at it.
>>548576172I think your opinion is shit and you need to watch more good time travel shows instead of rewatching Back to the Future for the tenth time to end up with this opinion.
Hot take: the sex scene should have been longer. This mild stuff won't do for the climax of the game.
>>548577341That one might actually happen lol. It'll be the last bit of unhinged shit they do, and thus the final Episode.
>>548577801Fuck man I miss blockbuster this would be a perfect scene. Nemlei has sort of dropped the ball on the time period setting pieces>>548578340That wasn't the climax...? the climax of sns is the flower screen.
>>548578398>Nemlei has sort of dropped the ball on the time period setting piecesThey're not exactly in America i'm pretty sure, no?
>>548578224Give her a break it was only a GameJam thing at the time!
>>548578316>good>time traveloxymoron
>>548578316Based
>>548578398I know. That's what I said if we're getting a final edition sex scene later in the story it better be longer and hotter than this. Just a short kiss is not much.
>>548577271>Everyone has a favorite ending they consider superior in any game with branching stories like visual novels. Anyone who says they consider all the endings equal is lying.The problem is we don't have all the endings yet. Burial looks like it might have better outcomes, but we can't know anything for certain until the game is 100% complete and out of Eartly Access. Let the author release the branches in wahtever order she wants, then we can pick favorites.
>>548578615What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>548578316True, SG or this works as well
>>548577196okay
yap yap yap yap IS THAT ALL YOU FUCKERS EVER DO!? POST SOME CUTE SIBLING ART ALREADY
>>548578756I want a long, hot scene of the siblings having sexual intercourse. How is that hard to understand boyo?
>>548578494Blockbuster reached Northern Europe by the mid 90s. You can def have it in the game's fictional northern european country. I mean more stuff like how the clothes are a bit off, trading card games like we saw in Andrew's elementary wouldn't be a thing for a good solid 10 years after, computers are VERY rare even for the late 90s there should be at least a lot more in stores/billboards for everyone trying to do the dot com bubble (i still remember asking myself at like 6 what the heck a '.com' was) little stuff like that
>>548577925Actually, this is an element that modern writers are not catching up. Nowadays you can't even trust something you see on camera at this point, because it can be all a farse. As we speak, they are inventing AI tools to surpass the authenticity factor trough filter. Reality is not "real", fundamentally speaking. >>548578223You trust what you see because you accept it as true or because it's in the news? What prevents from things reported on the daily from being false fabrications to make some sensationalistic headlines? For how long has this been going? It's not even something socio-political, but metaphysical, considering that this factor applies to virtually everything: How many times our perception of reality has fooled us under conventional terms? What implications would have for some metaphysical phenomena to exists? Which is fitting considering how dream-like Nemlei games tend to be. There's potential to craft something like it set in the modern world, but it would require to see reality in other way, where all possibilities still exists, and how this recontextualizes the information age.
>>548578896His stuff is pretty good
>>548579061Shut up dork, we're talking about the illusory nature of reality here.
>>548578589Have you read SG? Have you watched Dark? Have you watched Primer? stfu
>>548579123On the other hand they have the modern hand dryer at the gas station
>>548579530The dryers are not modern, they also have models similar to that type in the 90s. But seeing them outside of JAPAN would be rare. I take it the same as the Warden's gun, the specific model is from the 10s but Nemlei obviously is just looking up a revolver to draw, not giving a damn about the specifics. As long as there were also revolvers, and dip in hand dryers, in the 90s, its fine
>>548579510Kurisu rape in every timeline
>>548579123ok wasn't sure about the whole blockbusters thing but>ClothesThey fit a bit at that period, i don't see much off with how they dressed>Trading cardsThose things were 100% a hit wdym? they were big back then, still are today>Computers were rare in the 90'sand the one computer we saw was with the wardens, which makes sense to keep an eye on things>BillboardsThere was a fair amount and we have only been to the gas station and that one place in episode 2. They've spent more time in the demon realm honestly with the places there.
>>548579510I have read SG and looked at Primer.
>>548578589There are some good ones. The difference is either if your story is around time travel, or if it just pop up like a mcguffin that basically anulates the story until that point in an unsatisfactory way. It can be cool if the story is about the nature of time, for instance, maybe pondering that "time" is just an idea of the mind, a notion of sorts, and it's actually non linear. Shit like that.
>>548579723Trading Cards took off in the mid late 90s. When we see Lil Andrew playing with it, that's like late 80s, maybe up to 1990 if he's around 12, wayyy before MTG and copy cats came out.The clothes absolutely do not fit, not the modern ones. Andrew's teen fit is much more 90s because it's sort of grunge than anything else other than maybe Douglas' suit. People have pointed out that the clothes are more in line with the 80s-90s revival that was happening around Covid than the 90s themselves.Computers weren't THAT rare, there's a reason Doom was a big hit even in the early 90s, there should be a lot more of them around.Billboards - I mean .com billboards, not just billboards as a thing.
>>548579123Coffin it's in some geographical-temporal amalgamation of the 90s to 2000s. It's a different world from "our own", as mythical as the other Nemlei games are even, just like Better Half. It's like the Mother series: It has modernity on it, but it's actually a clash of things from the contemporary age, in order to set the story in contemporary times because it's part of what the narrative it's trying to tell.
I'm genuinely curious what cope was running through her head after her last phone call with Ashley. Like, how do you actually rationalize that giving up your kids like that was ok. I know this game isn't called "the coffin of Douglas and Renee", but Nem's is so good at writing asshole characters that I'm curious about what went through her head at the moment.
>>548579510SG is not that good actually.
>>548580220>I'm still young enough to have kids that'll be normalfollowed by>I don't want anymore kids after them, actuallyAnd treating it the same as if they just fucked off and never contacted her which was probably what she expected them to do as they grew up frankly.
>>548579123>>548579723>>548579997>>548579704>>548579530Guys you know the country Tcoaal is in is a fictional one right? So theres bound to be a mix of stuff, it has both american and european feel because the country isn't a real one.
>>548579510>>548579748Primer is being jerked off as the most "grounded" time travel movie but I can't take it seriously. The objects in their time machine would be occupying the same space twice, i.e. when you are getting into the machine to start going backwards you would be colliding with yourself who already started travelling backwards. It's no more believeable than a disappearing police box or a DeLorean.
>>548580220she is the same as any other shit parent: thinking the consequences of her actions will never catch up with her
reminder tcoaal is a indie game, so ofc devlogs and updates like decay takes a lots of time to be released
>>548580429According to who? Your terrible tastes?
>>548580661Douglas' gay disowned brother?
>>548580259Kek
>>548580661It's the time?
>>548580810no, the stans from the uhhhh grabvity falls
>>548580481I always thought this was located in fucking China since the doors were sealed for quarantine along with a bullet to the head if you leave
>>548580810Nah, this is Doug's bro.
>>548569157
>>548542064>??? Demon finally eats Doug's soul>Renee's soul starts flipping out>Andrew becomes annoyed and decides to fuck her over one last timeThis might happen.
>>548581290I wish Connie was like this over Renee and thats why she hated her
>>548578648>Let the author release the branches in wahtever order she wantsShe is already doing that. But I'm still going to bitch and moan about being forced to put up with a route I never liked. And I don't buy into this "but all endings are the same!" kool-aid for shitwits. I won't accept Burial being shit just because Decay got feed with 2 years of content.
>>548581680Andy and Leyley have a cousin from their aunt of unknown parentage that looks very much like her!
So time for a vote on what the stalking thing from Ashley is about:A. A way to lure the bartender on out from them bothB. Andrew actually stalkingorC. Six eyes cult leader is the stalker
>>548582632I get the concern. Unless she makes burial a two parter its gonna feel lopsided, but I think it'll run away from her in such a way that it'll grow beyond what she expected.
>>548579716>KurisuMayuri is superior on all levels
>>548550436It's rape time. It's TIME FOR RAPE. It's time. For rape. Rape. Forceful sex hours. Unwilling weiner stabbing moment. He's on a "non-consesual" rampage, you'll say. In a coitus assault. In a classified CIA off the records operation. In a recon mission over the forbidden brothel. He's connecting to the same spiritual as the city of Sodom was in. To be the fifth horsemen (of the orgy). You see, he's there to serve scrambled eggs (from the inside out). To get a hold forcefully. To bring the A to the NUS all bring it all together. Milky way turn around, illegal U turn style. No hold barrels outsider subjugation. To overtake the undertaker. "Rape", from the Latin rapere (supine stem raptum), "to snatch, to grab, to carry off". Roman "raptus". Low key participation on contemporary indian culture. βιασμός, as in, embodying the Apollonian spirit ON THE SPOT.You see, what happening THERE is quite simple, so i'm not going to sugarcoat it: He's going to rape. It's rape time
>>548577704I'm pretty sure street cameras were pretty abundant in the 90s. They were probably caught on camera doing alot of shady shit, like withdrawing their parents money.
>>548578896what a pale imitation of the original
>>548583087I hope you're correct hopiumbro. Lend me some of your medicine and let me rest in a cryogenized chamber until the game is complete. I will have faith.
>>548583373They should've skinned one of their parents faces off and one of them wears it while going to grab the money
>>548583069Andrew is going to rape her.
>>548583069I'm voting for D: Ashley being a brat and messing with Andrew as payback.
>>548583069D. They are trying to lure the cultists out and away from prying eyes to get something from them.
>>548579389Reality seems pretty unillusory to me.
>>548583069C.
>>548583867Julia WILL BE raped. Mark. My. Words.
>>548583069Either C or D>D. Ashley messing with Andrew to try and get his usual expected response, but it's Weirdrew and he doesn't care or laughs it off with a casual insult that actually hurts her.
>>548577196
>>548583524>>548583069b
>>548584134ohhhh what the fuck is this anon? How did you make this so fast?
>>548584134The devianart days are back.
>>548584134What do we call that thing?Ashnee?Renley?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3kIXVfuDHEHow are we interpenetrating the hearts for the sex scene?First is a colorless heart, then a pink, then green.Did they cum together, then Ashley again, then Andrew again? Or are people thinking the hearts mean something else?
>>548584558Colorless prob = InsertionPink = Ashley cameGreen = Andrew came>>548583069C
>>548584558I'm more impressed about the fact that this is the first time we see Andrew heart reaction on display so far.
>>548582632Bro what are you talking about? Nobody is saying that all endings are equal. The only thing Nemlei said is that neither Decay nor Burial is "good" or "bad" and that both will have a variety of outcomes. So far we only got one bad outcome in Decay, but let's wait and see what the others are, shall we? Who knows, there might be a good ending somewhere in Decay that you'll end up liking more than anything in Burial. I'm a Burial believer myself but it's unwise to write off Decay without having the full picture. And Burial certainly won't be shit just because it comes later. Nemlei will deliver. Trust the plan.
>>548584461Renley sounds great>>548584234Nah I nabbed it, its from halloween
>>548584817Route warriors are fake fans, desu.
>>548584134>I really did fuck you guys up...
In honor of the devlog, I have jerked off to Ashley twice. I might be able to fit in a third
>>548583172Based Rapedrew. Time to correct that brat once and for all.
>>548585440go for 6 you pussy
>>548585514Can't, I've had a busy day today. I didn't even get the first one in until about 2 hours ago
>>548584558They fucked 3 times in a row.
>>548583172>The Lord Unknown is actually Leaf in disguiseThat explains why everyone is suffering so much.
>>548585440jerked off to Ashley yesterday out of no where. Then the devlog came out of nowhere.
>>548585026No, I get him. I would have also voted to get Burial first if given the opportunity. By the end of Ep2 you are left with impression that Burial is where they hug and fug and Decay is where they kill each other. My heart naturally leaned towards the former. Still does, honestly. But we need the full picture before we can jump to conclusions. And I trust Nemlei will do an excellent job for all routes.
>>548583069I think it might be Six Eyes. With that image of him trying to "connect" to her and her shocked/scared expression, the siblings might be hiding out in that place while Six Eyes is outside stalking her waiting to follow at a moment's notice.
>>548584134That was a fucking jumpscare
>>548586079I don't mind waiting. I will wait for Burial and play it when it comes out and hope for the best. Just calling out the BS that you can't like one route more than the other for your own reasons. Imagine telling nips they can't like Saber more than Sakura in fate.
>>548584134Holy fuck
>>548583069gotta be C. could be something LU might like wanting to get rid of these annoying retards in exchange the demons will fuck off. inb4>need the tar souls!These assholes have been referenced since episode 2 of being annoying to LU and not leaving him alone unless they have something actually good, which they don't.
>>548585440I haven't been in the mood to jerk off to anything since playing Decay about 1.5 weeks ago
>>548584134this should be bannable for posting gore in a blue board
I like the idea that wearing their parent's skin isn't even funny in a morbid way to Andrew. He is genuinely horrified that Ashley actually did that.That or he's internally screaming at the thought of banging his mom with Ashley's voice.
>>548584134goddamn! Imagine gripping that ponytail and fucking her mouth through that shit! Hot as fuck!
>>548587181The sadness will pass and the horniness will set back inI should find the time to replay Decay too
>>548587383It'd turn him on just hearing Ashleys voice anyway
>>548587383no
>>548584134
>>548583172>Andrew>Raping AshleyCan't rape the willing.
>>548572494>>548572874>>548572494>>548573639The December Community...
>>548588173Based on the dev video, I don't think Ashley likes sex.
>>548588904In the video, Ashley rapes Andrew while drunk. Your point?
>>548588904She came and doesn't want to admit it.
>>548589078crush this man's balls in a bench vise
>>548587424thats...a very unique reaction to this picture.
>>548589078>>548589192I don't she hates sex. I think she's just doesn't that much about it.
>>548587424This guy get it.
>>548586291Ashley really, really, really wants a friend. She latches onto fucking ??? of all things, a literal cult leader could manipulate her as easily as tying his shoes.
>>548588904She's the one who actively sought in the video. She "doesn't like it" because it doesn't play into her fantasy of Andy and Leyley (happier days) and because she doesn't want to let her mental defences (coping mechanism for rejection) slip lest she be wounded again by Andrew's perceived indecisiveness. Being inebriated minimises these issues enough for her to enjoy it, but once she's awake and sober enough, the walls go right back up and she gets defensive and angry about it.
>>548590762>adds Ashley to his haremNothing personal, Andrew
>>548542064Psychodrew bros... We are so back
>>548590762Dumb take. Ashley is actually less easily manipulated than Andrew.She was right about killing the cultist.She was right about the hussy in the apartment.She was right about Julia.She was right about Mom.Andrew eat the bait in each of these cases and Ashley didn't. She has never cared about social validation.
>>548591018>She has never cared about social validation.This is true. Even as a kid, she has the complex of setting herself against the world for pitiful reasons, and Andrew has been her only anything. But she did seems sour when she was looking at the group playing with the Ouija board, maybe wondering what could be. It doesn't so far fetched that Ashley may be curious about this guy. Besides, bitches love cult leaders, it's like a powerful aphrodisiac in person form for them.
>>548445650fuck my stupid chud life
>>548590762>Ashley really, really, really wants a friend.No, she doesn't. She actively reject the very idea.
>>548591398>he bet on nothingTOTAL VICTORY
>>548583939She already was
>>548591392>bitches love cult leadersBut enough about Renee.
>>548590762Andrew will think this but >>548591392 will be right. Ashley wants friends but she doesn't take bullshit. Just like her mother. The second she smells him angling for something she'll have a meltdown.
>>548591018Wasn't it confirmed their mom was gonna let them go?
>>548592003LOL
>>548592003yea from the bonds of lifewatch olive branches again. Other than Andrew's brainderp it's canonical/in line what the characters would do.
>>548590762Doubtful. She doesn't care about friends. She's also not attached to ??? the way you think she is since he's a demon and their relationship is transactional business.The scene is probably an extension of something else that happened in the past with their dating lives. Andrew goes with LU despite knowing it's bad and he doesn't want to, just like dating Julia, and it makes things worse for everyone.Ashley probably thinks the cult is fine and agrees to stay for a bit, like agreeing to date Douchebag. But instead of backing out at the last second like her date, Six Nigs tries his luck like picrel that could work on a normal women under the right circumstances and it will backfire instantly on Ashley.
>>548592003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atnLA9W_zrc&t=3s
>>548592003Yes, but only before Ashley stuck a gun in her face.
>>548592003The only argument where she might let them go is if the gun was never pulled, maybe.
>>548591916I think this occult sect in particular would have made out of Douglas a different animal entirely. A pretty sick AU if there is one: A gothic noir novel about an cultist lawyer and his tragic family line.
>>548592093>>548592390>>548592492>>548592624Read the devlogs.
>>548592906I did and that's why I cited that instance. It's just hard to believe.
>>548592906>Ashley can't be present for the talk: She'd call bullshitThe devlog confirms it. Ashley is harder to manipulated then Andrew.
for the drawfag who made the ashley hope syringe fanartjust letting you know your drawing is now in kym image galleryhttps://knowyourmeme.com/photos/3178396-basedjak-shot-with-hope-syringe
>>548593057I don't know, she doesn't really seem the type to go out of her way to murder her kids. The surgeon deal wasn't really a premeditated attempt and she overall seems too chickenshit to actually go through with it on her volition.
>>548591853I had a 3 hour drive today and I kept thinking about this image and saying "HOOOOOOOOOPE" out loud before descending into gigglesThanks to whoever made it
>>548593243Read the rest of that part, the mom would've let them go and andrew knew her bullshit as well. Neither wanted to make things even more annoying and worse, but ashley pushed it even further.
We are SO back!
>>548593613Based
>>548594423This was the fastest /calg/ has been since the April release threads, and it was all actual discussion!
>>548594950No it was almost all re-expaining old shit for the umpteenth timeSLOW /CALG/ BEST /CALG/
>>548593243Nah she's easily to manipulate Andrew does it to her a lot even before the quarantine.He also tells her when he gets drunk in SnS he knew about moms bullshit from long ago he just played pretend, to which Ashley says there thinking he's a better manipulator than her then.Also for that devlog, nemlei just basically said Ashley escalated the situation when the mom and Andrew would've basically agreed Leave tommorowPretend they never saw eachother and no contacting againAshley brought out the gun and that's when the mom decided no more charity now.
>>548595076Slow CALG is the only time u get to see thiu
>>548595268I haven't posted Thiu in a bit because things have been going well. But don't worry, I'm back to being alone and so the Thiuposting will return shortly
>>548594394Read the post yourself. Is very explicit that Mom was bullshiting her way from moment one and lying about everything. Andrew would have let her lie all the way out before telling then to fuck off with 0 safety guarantees of sending hitmen against them. Ashley would cut her bluff immediately because she doesn't fall for social tricks, because she never has been accepted in society in the first place. Renee is a massive cunt.
>>548595572You didn't read yourself retard, she explicitly states that would've been her last charity to her kids cause it can only happen between Andrew and her. Nemlei literally says that's what would've happened, nothing else and they could pretend to feel better about themselves.Instead the situation escalates as seen and now the plan changes to the olive branch shit, no actual guarantees anymore for them because of that. There is no bluff.
>>548595195>Ashley escalatedThe only escalation was the Mom selling her children to organ harvesting satanic corp. >no more charity now.There was never any charity to begin with lmao.
>>548595809>Not killing your kids... is le charityThe absolute state of reneetards.
>>548595809xd
>>548595813>not reading the devlog>not reading the devlogFucking read it slowly I'll even greentext it for you>both mom and son spent the day assessing the situation>both duos leave quietly>no contacts againThey reached the same fucking plan together as it was the best scenarioThe charity part is removed when Ashley comes into the picture, she would've said "bullshit, not happening" and ruin their plans to both leave quietly and forget this happened.
>>548595813>The only escalation was the Mom selling her children to organ harvesting satanic corp.NTA but you're talking about the conversation itself. Ashley 100% would've escalated that from talking to screaming because "she can't play nice for shit". Is her escalation justified? Yeah probably, but she's still the escalator
>>548595964If you don't wanna read the devlog post then don't I guess, up to you since you aren't even reading the last Fucking Line From nemlei herself.
>>548596165Andrew won't have been able to convince Ashley to leave without the trinket charges anyway, it was the reason why she was there in the first place besides the money. And when Ashley set her mind to do something, it's a matter of some arbitrary physical law that Andrew will follow suit, without thinking twice.
>>548595813I wouldn't say sell per se. More along the lines of accepting hush money.
>>548596435He would've tried to ease her up like usual or whatever, probably say to find other people to use for the charge instead.Would she have still made a fuss never letting go of that for a while? Yes but he would've eventually figured something out to shut her up about it.
husbandrew
Why do I always get to these threads late
>>548596435>>548596671Also they were more there for the money anyway, Rob them of the money then leave but Renee got home before they could get shit and get out.
>>548596868Wifelia
>>548596236The conservation itself is irrelevant. Renee:>Sold her children to Moloch>Was going to lie to Andrew (stated in the devlog)>Didn't gave a fuck and just wanted them to leave and die in the streets (best case scenario)Ashley blowing Renee's head in the first second of their interaction would have been justified. You can't just sell someone to organ harvesting and then play dumb.
>>548597153>was going to lie to AndrewThis isn't fucking true read the goddamn devlog slowly already. Nemlei says they both were on the same fucking page of leaving and no contact again, that was it. The only lie there was both pretending to feel good about themselves, instead ashley would fuck all that up which is where it lead to them now dead.Is it justified? Yes sure whatever, the point of this was andrew and Renee both were on the same playing field of pretending they never saw eachother so both duos live peacefully from eachother.
>>548597153To be fair she didn't know they were organ harvesters. Just that they were going to kill Andrew and Ashley, and were trying to kill them aswell earlier in the meeting.
>so nothingburger was the devlog that people are now discussing the Q&A again
>>548597428>>548597153And if you're talking about lying about what happened in the apartment, Andrew already knew that'd be bullshit but wouldn't say anything. He saw the death certificates and the fact they've got a brand new house that they shouldn't have, he connected the dots fast with just that. Had they both went their separate ways he wouldn't say a thing cause both parties wanted eachother to fuck off peacefully.
>>548597153VERY Ashleybrained post. You're missing the forest for the treesAnon, yes, I have no problem admitting that Renee did something awful and unforgivable and she deserves to die and yadda yadda yadda. But screaming and yelling at her in that moment wouldn't solve anything. Not because Mom is right or a good girl, but because engaging a mutual lie is simply the best option. After all, say Ashley blows everything up, then what? Does that make things okay? Does it unsell them? Does it make their childhoods happy? There's no point to nuking the lies Andrew and Mom want to tell other than making yourself feel better in the moment (which is why Ashley would do it)
fuck them kids
>>548597906I always knew Renee was a pedophile...
>>548597580ingrate
>>548597906Fuck the kids?
>>548597906She's 100% right that this wouldn't have happened if they just got jobs and moved out
>>548598029infidel
Andrew and Renee:>4D chess Ashley:>REEE ooga booga!!
>>548598169Maybe she should've brought Julia on over~
The funny part to me is that Renee doesn't seem to have thought about what them still being alive actually implies, and what they might have had to do to escape and not get glowed on. She treats them like they're the exact same people they were before the quarantine. What did she think they were at her house for?
>>548598427Pretty sure she had a clue but was willing to let it slide had they left peacefully, cause it's better that way than causing a bigger scene.
Hag love
>>548596930hey, you're here now!
>>548597906
>>548599159I luv smart hags
>>548598427I don't know man, she's just kinda dumb sometimes. She can piece together that the quarantine is bullshit and the surgeon was trying to kill them within seconds, but can't piece together that her kids have been harboring a deep murderous hatred for her for years.
>>548600081She knows Ashley has, she didn't expect Andrew to help her.
>>548600081i mean, to be fair, it would be one hell of a revelation for a parent to genuine think that their child wants to literally kill them. that's not really a situation that happens very often.
Are you actually this stupid...>No, look, I know this isn't an optimal situation......to butt into the conversation and start screaming at Mom, ruining my plan? I mean, what the hell is wrong with you?! I'm really asking!>Nothing. I'm sorry, I just...What are we going to do about them knowing we're alive, huh? What? What's the plan, genius? Hm?>I don't know.You don't know. You know why you don't know? Because you don't think! That's why! You don't think! You never figured out how to think, did you, Ashley?>Hey, I said I was sorry, alright? I just needed to tell her how I felt!Tell her how you felt? She doesn't care how you feel! She only cares about herself, do you understand?! Why, why should I be penalized because of your sloppiness?!>Look, that is completely uncool, alright? We agreed it would just be us!What would just be us? What exactly do you do here, I've been meaning to ask. Because I'm the planner, right? I figure out what we're going to do. But from what I can tell, you are just a psycho! You are a psycho maniac too stupid to play nice and let me work out a plan for us! Too stupid to-
Will there be a real sex scene in episode 4
>>548602076C'mon man get a grip. This isn't a porn game.
Why was the entire SnS sex scene (finally watched) just Ashley crashing out over cumming?
>>548603338We literally just got done explaining that.
>>548603743Just got home from work, I’m not reading hundreds of replies
>>548604495¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>548603338whats SnS?
>I'm sorry you came, Ashley...
>>548604653Sneed and Seed
>>548604653Shots and Stuff, the very depressing, abusive failstate ending for Andrew who gives into fucking Ashley and Ashley who withdraws into Leyley while stuck in a dead end job with a dead end identity and dead end contract with the demon.
>>548604495Here >>548566094
Another possibility about the bar scene is Ashley not remembering Andrew because of some bullshit with ??? tricking her into removing her memories of him and that's why we have the Andrew scene where he's like 'I'm gonna fix that'?
Is there a uhhhh version of the game like the modded one with the Mom x Son, but its the Mom x Daughter?
>>548605560Ye it's called Deltarune
>>548606154
>>548592906Haggots will never recover from this.
>>548605560Where's the Dad x Daughter one?
>>548604778No he isn't.
>I never complain whenever my Douglas makes me cum.
I think Ashley just can't stand fake bullshit. She won't even entertain it for the sake of being civil.
>>548606625
>>548607697Andrew and Renee would murder them.
>>548608416I think both of them would think Ashley was playing some kind of game Doug was too much of a doormat to say no to desu.
>>548608209What's this from?
>>548558873Rubbing sistid should be seen as platonically acceptable. A few decades ago it was totally fine for a frightened/sad/crying younger brother to stick his face in his older sister's protective bossom.
All is well
>>548564595Objectively it is
>>548570176This time it was different because we had art of Andrew and Ashley being forcibly injected with hopium, a substance extracted from months of Minesweeper wins. Hard work pays off, lad.
>>548580564That's not how it works. You're complaining about an issue that the movie accounts for.You could have watched any of the dozen "How time travel in Primer works" youtube videos if you didn't understand the movie.
>>548604653
>>548610401Rome
I guess you could say that this was our Coffin of Andy and Leyley
Do you think Ashley is one of those white girls who did performative Buddhism for a week then gave up because vegetarianism is retarded
>>548613175Sounds more like an Andrew thing desu
>>548583069messing with andrew to get him arrested thus forcing him to make a deal with her to get out
>>548615298Surely Andrew could talk his way out of it, right?
>>548581309Holy beer goggles!!
>>548588904You must like bait a lot though
>>548604778LMAO okay I'll post this from now on
>>548605560There's a really nice game called suicide>>548608209I watched Rome btw, it was nice. Thanks anon.>>548616454Andrew is portrayed as the pinnacle of manipulative smooth talking tall fuckboy so maybe.
>>548616992I hope we get that at some point. The moment Leyley starts to see Andy as a man (during their teenage years)
>>548541754The wait wasn't worth it I seriously don't think I can put up with this anymore. Nemlei should have just worked on the game and released it in full because it's ridiculous how long the wait has been. I'm just done man done. Never trusting indie Devs with early access again
>>548619654This devlog was epic, stfu queer
>>548617542>the pinnacle of manipulative smooth talking tall fuckboyAndrew thinks he's this but he actually isn't.
>>548619654>Nemlei horrified at the fact that one of his DIEHARD fans can't wait anymore, "I'm done!" he says, "Done! Our relationship is over!"...Perrrrrrkele! I stopped drawing another heavily detailed sibling kissing CG for this! BLEES don't leave!
>>548546046holy kino, you got any more?
>devlog is published while the americans are asleep>/calg/ is dead>americans wake up>suddenly nearly two threads' worth of discussion in a few hours>americans go sleep>thread diesWhat the FUCK do Europeans even want? You have your fucking devlog! Why the fuck do Aussies have to carry during Euro hours?
>>548620292You've still got the one Amerimutt here who works overnight lol.
>>548620405Thank you for your cervix o7
>>548620405Make that two. In fact I'm pretty sure the thread is majority American regardless of what time it is.
>>548620735The latest census showed there's as many Americans + Canadians in /calg/ as there are Europeans. If you exclude Canadians then Euros indeed our number Americans. Yet Europeans don't fucking post!
>>548620842indeed outnumber*
>/calg/ started to slow down alreadyOur goddess is a merciful one, hail!
My sister is crying because her co-workers bullied her for being fat. I mean she is kinda big, but I still think she's beautiful. How do I tell her that though without sounding like a chub chaser?
>>548622342Hang and quarter her coworkers
>>548622501This. Then give her a big hug and grab her tummy
We should have tripled the gatekeeping budget...>>548577501>deluluDelulu, labubu, skibidi, I don't give a fuck! Underageb& OUT!>>548577801Forced meme. Not gonna stick.>>548604653Play the game.
>>548605538>selective memory erasure tropeCringe
>>548622342Start working out with your sister
>>548622608This is the most pretentiously oldfag post ever posted in this general, I salute you.
>>548622774I don't really want her to lose weight.
>>548622608>Supposed oldfag /calg/ veteran >Ashley watching incest porn to study brother seduction is "forced meme"Do you come here once a week, Oldrew?
>>548622880"I don't want to appear as a chub chaser" my ass, I know what you are...
>>548623017Yes, I know what I am! That's why I don't want to SOUND like a chub chaser!
>>548622905The forced meme is /colgate/. A 2025 summerfag special.
>>548623117>Master Chief, mind telling me what you're doing in /calg/?>Sir. Feeding this sister.
Did 4chan make it so post numbers can't end with dubs anymore at some point or are we just statistically improbably unlucky?
>>548623582Apart from consecutive zeroes, there are no gets on most blue boards.
>>548623117>likes fat womenYou must be absolutely spoiled for choice. Dare I say eating good.
>>548577501 she probably has, a few times growing up. Thinking about Andrew because there's zero sexual interest to anyone else in her mind
>>548623649Why? Well actually I can see why, but since when?
>>548623649More proof if any were needed that we are occupied by true evil.
>>548623143I was the first one to say /colgate/ for a one timer and I have been here since before our exile to /vg/. Some other anons just happened to like it and it stuck for them man. We get it, you're the oldestfag, the Great Replacement, etc etc.
>>548623881I would never! And grinding on his bed with his pillow in his clothes when he isn't home doesn't count!! Decay won't have incest anyway!..
>>548623881There must have been someone hot on TV in the 80s she would have noticed.
>>548624582I know you guys aren't familiar with how incestuous people are, but unless someone looked like Andrew like a clone she wouldn't feel shit, and even she did she would condition herself to think "but it's not him though" and lose interest. Same thing with Andrew, he had to get Julia plastic surgery to make her Ashley 2.0. It's just how it is when you have each other's figure and appearance etched into your brain irredeemably.
>>548624582Realistically, maybe someone who somehwat resembled him.. and it kick started thoughts about Andrew.
Reminder: Ashley's sexualiity is one of the least explored elements about this game so far. We're going to get it, eventually.
Does Ashley enjoy sex?>Andrew: "I'm going to fuck you like the hussies in Mom and Dad's pornos."No.Does Ashley enjoy sex?>Leyley: "We're going to play doctor now. Take off your clothes, because I need to examine you with my pussy. Don't talk, and just do what I say.">Andy: "Ok."Yes.
>>548604778How can you not endlessly bully Ashley after that? Andrew is a saint.
>>548625337Based reverse-auto-pedophilic rapist Leyley?
>>548609036This is unrealistic.They're too poor to afford a game console.
>>548578224That was back when there likely would have been only the first chapter and they just jump out together at the end.
Still no explanation what the porno in Cliffhanger was about. Can't wait to see how that comes into play... are mom and dad sleeveballs who inadvertently turned their son into a porn addict? I suspect likely.
>>548576339Nems has said Decay and Burial are not going to share any content, but I still wonder if there will be some overlap, like flashbacks of the same events from Andrew's flashbacks but from Ashley's perspective. Surely some of the backstory stuff from Decay has to be relevant in Burial as well, it gives important context for Andrew and Ashley's relationship
>>548625674Andrew's a sociopath in denial, he's a thrill seeker that gets bored easily which is why he entertained the idea of robbing their parents in ep2. To someone like that porn addiction comes easily get it?, fucking Julia was the maximum lvl of dopamine he could get and it wasn't close to enough. This becomes apparent in SnS when he's like 'well I've technically done everything, time to kill myself'.
>>548624937And how are you familiar with how incestuous people are, anon?
>>548625674In the room where you choose Andrew's true love? It just symbolizes his sexual awakening. There's no deeper meaning to it.
>>548626274Holy secondary
>>548623756I need to apologise to a girl from many years ago (2019). I'm Australian and this was around the time Americans on social media started saying "eating good" to mean enjoying a large quantity of something. But I interpreted it as just enjoying high QUALITY stuff, for example eating healthily. So when this chubby chick was insecure about her weight I thought I could console her by saying she is eating good, repeatedly.
>>548541754Drunkley is big cute. More than that, though, imagine what Andrew felt in that exact moment juxtaposed to the horrific aftermath. She wanted him, she wanted to have sex with him, she was deeply attracted, she was intimate, she was friendly; sweet, seductive, sexually aggressive. She made him feel like a real man for probably the first time in his life, his obsession threw herself onto him unambiguously. Then everyone sobered up and she caused a massive commotion because by this point they've stubbornly committed themselves to being miserable beyond the point of logic.Some women truly do not understand the power they wield.
>>548551458but it would work with a Beedi
>>548627531>She wanted him, she wanted to have sex with him, she was deeply attracted, she was intimate, she was friendly; sweet, seductive, sexually aggressive. She made him feel like a real man for probably the first time in his life, his obsession threw herself onto him unambiguously.gosling.png
>>548624937Very true. Ever since I was a kid I would always feel at least an affinity, if not an attraction to things that had a female who resembled one of my cousins in it. I still do.
>>548624937I always had an attraction to women who looked like the women in my family too, can confirm.
>>548626703You know too much.
>>548541754>smaller than advertisedTHOSE ARE FUCKING HUGE
>>548629561>people still taking that line at face valueClearly, it was meant to be a reference to the interaction they had as teenagers in cliffhanger. Obviously, she's grown since then. Obviously, they're pretty decently sized. Even if she's sporting generous pushup bras. Still.
>>548627531This scene makes me think that maybe, just maybe, there is still some hope for them in this wretched timeline. Even though the ending paints such a bleak and miserable picture where they are the worst versions of themselves, the fact that they could, albeit momentarily and under alcohol, drop their bullshit and genuinely enjoy each other, makes me wonder if it's not all hopeless... I know I'm just being a naive retard, but goddammit it's so hard not to feel bad for these two jerks and wish for them to somehow still work things out even when they are canonically doing everything humanly possible to drive themselves deeper into misery.
>>548629857>This scene makes me think that maybe, just maybe, there is still some hope for them in this wretched timeline.I talked at length about this in previous threads. Logically Shots and Such isn't as bleak as it first seems and really not much stand in their way when it comes to improving their lives beyond them just being drama queens / giving up, both of which gets old after a few years.
>>548629561Pregnant woman, pls understand.
Is LU going to have his way with Andrew?
>>548630092Yes. But not that way you sick fuck.
>>548630092>his way>hisLU is a brother-stealing she/her.
>>548630270>she/herSo he's a MtF tranny?
>>548630270Lady Unknown is a black momma!
LU really would be hotter as a woman
>>548630270I know it's the 90s/00s, Ashley, but you REALLY never prepared for the possibility of male hussies existing in your worldview? Didn't your creator goddess teach you about yaoi?
>Lord UnknownClearly male. Else it would be lady.
>>548630945That's just what the foolish humans call her because they don't know better. LU is a girl!
>>548541754I was searching for movie reviews and I didn't expect to find a based opinion like this. TCOAAL will break this jinx, right?
>>548630945As always, it's simply a retard with a fetish making sure that the entire thread knows that it's his fetish.
>Ashley gets drunk one time>ends up pregnant with twins
>>548630912I-I guess that's okay if your mother failed as a woman and only made boys.
>>548631475You are true, just, and magnanimous as always, Ashley. Siblings shouldn't be denied their soulmates just because their parents' stupid harlot genes fucked up.
>>548631826You wouldn't call somebody "true". The statements they make may be true, but a person themselves cannot be true.
>>548631908>I'm a true and honest friend
>>548631962That's "true [noun]". Again, the person themselves cannot be true, only their relationship with the concept of [noun].
>>548631908Y-yeah, well, you're false AND a nerd! We can't all be grammatically correct studs with loving sisterwives, can we?
Oh shitto we hit bump limit! I got a good pic to use for the next one
>>548631250What is this a review of?
NEWNEWNEW>>548635518>>548635518>>548635518>>548635518
Bump limit in under 18 hours, what a little scrap of news does to a mf
>>548542064ENTER
>>548629561>>548629735>>548630045its her bra
>>548544262NO WAYNO FUCKING WAYIF THIS IS TRUE THEN ABSOLUTE CINEMA
>>548563787Calling it nowThis isn't part of Decay; it's BurialAshley gets swept up into the cult because they feign to offer her unconditional love and support.Just like real cults, they try to play into all her insecurities and wants. It's all a facade, they're only doing it because they found out that she is successful at regularly summoning demons and has the talisman given to her by ???. She'll start to need Andrew less since she has a new support net, and she'll even taunt him about this with stuff like "I have new friends. I bet you're soooooo jealous" or "They treat me better than you EVER did!". It'll rock her worldview when he responds with something like "Oh cool. You're actually learning how to socialize. Now you won't need me for literally everything. Nice."His nonchalant attitude will make her worry that he never really loved her as much as she thought. The cult will prey upon this fear, and manipulate her even more. When they eventually betray her or she finds out they were just using her, she will probably have the biggest meltdown we've seen.After that... idk, the story could go two directions. Either she realizes how precious Andrew is to her since he was always so loving without any ulterior motives. The alternative is that her mental state spirals out of control and she only doubles down on her obsessive need to have Andrew no matter what.
>>548649429Post it in the new thread mate
Now for another year of no devlogs.
