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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8865 - Mello Edition

==NEWS==
>IDW Sonic: Chasing Shadows has been cancelled
bsky.app/profile/kielphegley.bsky.social/post/3m5udrfcehk2w

>Tangle and Whisper in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 04 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
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>Milestone pastebin:
pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
grabber.zone
tails.kicks-ass.net/
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OCs:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixels:
ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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topkek dead bee
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Evan goes over the reasons why issue 82 sucks.

https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/801755249116430336/idw-sonic-spoilers-for-issue-82-idw-sonic-issue#notes

>IDW wanted shorter self contained stories in the book, Evan is trying to push for longer stories still
>Says Soleil is based on her own abusive parent which we already talked about here
>Believes that Soleil will still have problems with their parent
>Complains that Shadow was forced because of the Year of Shadow
>Tries to bend the knee to Sega saying she does not want to come off as whining about SEGA

She still cannot draw human women.
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my oc is political because I like mobian tits
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>>548555015
Every time I see name Mello I think that blond chocolate addict mobster from Death Note.
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>>548541649
You do know Sonic is far from IDW's best seller right?
IDW Sonic sells above cancellation but it's nowhere near a sales juggernaut even for comic standards
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>>548555235
>Says Soleil is based on her own abusive parent
And his is the reason why Soleil sucks, lol. Rather than creating a character whose entertaining or brings something unique or cool we instead just get a self-insert storyline and a self-insert character
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>>548555393
It doesn’t have to be at the top, anon. It merely has to sell enough to make a profit, and unfortunately, it clearly is making enough to stick around.
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Cream the Rabbit.
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>>548555675
Who?
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>>548555002
This is what leftists unironically believe. They're legitimately brainrotted from politics. They see everywhere and in the most mundane things
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>>548555235
>Believes that Soleil will still have problems with their parent
What fucking problems? They gave in and supported Soleil the instant he talked to them.
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Look, I actually read through Evan's whole excuse tour on Tumblr and it's just sad man. She admits IDW wanted shorter self contained stories but she's STILL trying to push her complicated OC drama into limited page counts. That's the problem right there.

Even the fans admit this. And yeah I saw that bit about the abusive parent stuff being personal to her. Great. Write about that on your own time maybe. This is Sonic the Hedgehog.


Either give Soleil their own dedicated arc or do what actually works; Sonic Tails versus the thief, Shadow and Rouge on the trail, everyone fighting over a Chaos Emerald with Eggman swooping in. Simple. Clean. CLASSIC adventure setup. Remember Hissy and the Golem from Blade of Courage? Simple side characters that worked because they didn't try to shove therapy sessions into 22 pages.

>This is apparently the result of IDW experimenting with arc length, and when they try shorter arcs people complain and when they write longer arcs people get bored.

No. The SOLUTION is competent writers who can actually pace a story. Self contained adventures would work FINE if the writers knew what they were doing. Ken Penders could build more character in 4 panels than Evan does in 4 issues.

And don't get me started on the Year of Shadow complaint. "Oh SEGA forced Shadow in." Cry me a river. Work with what you got instead of whining about mandates. Other writers writers dealt with way worse and still produced gold. This proves that the self contained adventure format isn't gonna save IDW. The writers are just fundamentally incapable. Flynn couldn't do it. Evan can't do it. They're all dedicated to fighting the Sonic Team mindset now.
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aight that's it I'll give you guys a day to cool down then check in on wednesday
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>>548555795
>This is what leftists unironically believe
So. It's political, then?
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>>548555821
>As for Soleil/Lunar’s parents… they’re a lot. That’s intentional. While I agree that their parenting choices as abusive, as the story covers, it did not come from a place of malice. Through improved communication, which Sonic has helped Soleil kick off, Soleil’s relationship with them will improve. That said, Soleil’s parents do everything at 110%; their sudden flip will probably be just as much of a problem unless this family keeps working on how they relate to each other. Luckily Soleil has gained some confidence, and has Lunar to help, too. I’d love to tell another chapter in Soleil and Lunar’s story someday.
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>>548552178
ABT is guilty of over-designing characters and wanting Sonic to be generic furbait instead of being rubber hose inspired.
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IDW pays the writers like garbage.
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>>548555015
>Games are bad and edgy
>Comics do this shit daily
>Everyone claps
Excuse me??
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>here's my personal abusive story
Why do we let women write?
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Is /sthg/ ready for the back to back Sonamy + Metal/Shadow movies?
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anyone have the image og gigi's sonic falling and the comparison of official sega art?
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IDW is bad at making Sonic characters because they made the grave sin of making characters more detailed than a character who was designed in the 80s for visibility on an 8-bit system. And don't ask me about literally every character design since Adventure, those don't count.
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>>548555350
Sexy monkey
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>>548556175
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>>548555015
>Fatal amount of drug-laced chilidog sauce
And people well tell you Archie was good
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>>548556273
Why not?
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>>548556376
thanks anon lol
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>>548556273
Megadrive was 16 bit
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>>548548294
The game also made Silver helpless to make Sonic look good. It's not just the comic. And Silver helped Whisper a lot during that same chapter. Unless you are an obsessed Aurafag, you wouldn't feel like Silver looks bad in the early IDW comics considering he was the one who helps Sonic the most
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>>548555235
>three fags with abusive parents are talking how great it was that a Sonic story had abusive parents in it
I'm starting to believe that their parents might have a point
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>>548555235
>IDW wanted shorter self contained stories in the book, Evan is trying to push for longer stories still

HOW CAN YOU SAY SHE IS TAKING CRITICISM WHEN SHE IS STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS!?
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>>548556109
All comic book publishers (that includes manga) pay writers and artists like garbage. That's why the current strategy at Marvel and DC is to recruit people in South America cause they're cheaper. Dead fucking serious.
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MOVIECHADS, HOW’RE WE FEELING ON THIS GLORIOUS DAY? I CANNOT WAIT TO HEAR MORE NEWS ABOUT THE 2028 SPIN-OFF FILM!
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>>548555945
If you think that a painting that mundane is racism-coded, then you're a brainrotted fool.
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>>548556424
master system was 8
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>>548556175
>>548556376
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>>548555893
>Write about that on your own time maybe. This is Sonic the Hedgehog.
This is what it all boils down to.
We have writers treating Sonic as if it was their own world to do with as they please.
It's all so tiresome.
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>>548556376
that's not tracing
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>girls usually invent characters for them to self-insert
POST THE LEGO STUDY

WHERE IS THE LEGO STUDY???
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>CD and Shadow spin-off back to back yearly releases
What a time.
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>gigi the tranny is also a tracer
This is too good.
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>>548556578 (me)
*facism-coded. Stupid autocorrect
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>>548556650
sega obviously doesn't care so why are you wasting your time about it here
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Launching in Shadow Generations is genius and I think launching/ knockback is a generally underexplored mechanic in Sonic.
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>>548556706
she traced the bottom half, change his arms and slightly altered the head. Tracing doesn't need to be exactly 1-to-1.
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>>548556552
I'm only hoping both films complement each other and it won't stay being a 2-3 film yearly churned slop like MCU before they retired that because no one gave a shit anymore.
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>>548556273
>>548556615
Sonic was designed for the Mega Drive in 1991, you fool. SEGA mascot for the 8bit was Alex Kidd.
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>>548556829
it's not tracing when you have the original next to the drawing
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>>548557130
sonic was in production before the genesis
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>>548555235
As usual Evan is right. Longer stories are better, short sucks. The problem is adding 100 characters every chapter for no reason. Do they not understand that characters need solo moments to shine?
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>Muh LEGO Study
THE LEGO STUDY IS RETARDED DOGSHIT DESIGNED TO PUSH A FALSE NARRATIVE.

So if you give a boy and a girl a batman toy the boy roleplays as batman and the girl tries to make batman girlier? Hmmm wow what an amazing revelation except why wasn't the opposite procedure tested? Why wasn't the boy given a my little pony or a barbie to see if HE would roleplay as girls and do tea parties and makeup? Because he WOULDN'T he would turn them into a demon horse and a charlie's angel because Boys have the same problem Fuck you.
Stop shitting on Evan, let Silver be fun and cute let the characters actually do things differently not everything has to be the same.
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>>548556552
Still laughing cause Sega's current president tried doing this with Crash Bandicoot back in the day but was more or less laughed at. He must spend most of his time doing the "Fuck you I was right" dance.
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>>548556402
it very funny with right mindset at least
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Obligatory.
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>>548557315
I want to self insert into tangle
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>>548556818
Actually now that I think about it the entire concept of Kirby/ Smash hitstun and knockback would work perfectly for Sonic. Juggling dead enemies that "pop" when tknockback ends. This would add a lot of complexity to Silver as well.
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>>548557374
You lost, Uwuverfag.
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>>548555893
Thanks Fred.
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>>548557438
No Merry Christmas image/video with the star of Bethlehem? I think I know why
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>>548557337
Both have their place the problem is that Evan not only wants long stories but also does not want self contained stories
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>>548557374
>the girl tries to make batman girlier
it's more about the girl projecting her personality onto the figurine >>548557315 unlike the boy shifting into the character itself and observing it as a role model.
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>>548556578
>>548556794
Okay. It seems you are still confused, so allow me to spell it out. The simple fact your painting is of a "cozy cottage" implies that you own said cottage? Am I correct to that? Or someone at least does. Why not a commune building? Because, you chose personal property, which in it of itself, whether you are too stupid to see it or not, is political.
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the boy is uncreative and simply wants to be told what to do by other people while the girl is able to form her own unique narratives and ideas
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>>548557827
I don't own a cottage. The only reason I would paint it is because it looks nice and I would like to live in it.
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>>548556578
>>548557827
Art is interpretative and thusly anything can be political if you are autistic enough.
Go ahead. What is the political meaning of this image.
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No one has done a gender flipped Lego Study because the boys wold just refuse to play with girl toys unlike girls who like boy toys
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>>548558006
Owning property and living in said owned property is inherently political, anon. That's what I am attempting to impart upon you.
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Why is everyone acting shocked that Soleil is an Evan Stanley self insert? Did you guys just start reading this comic yesterday? Belle the Tinkerer was LITERALLY the same thing. She made a whole OC based on her own feelings about her father and shoved her into the main cast.

Look it up. Belle was created by Evan Stanley specifically to explore themes about creators and their creations; aka daddy issues the character. And now Soleil is ALSO about her abusive parent situation. She keeps doing this. She keeps making the Sonic comic about HER trauma instead of making it about SONIC.

You know what the difference is between a good Sonic character and an Evan Stanley character? A good Sonic character serves the STORY. Tails is Kid Sonic; he wants to be like his cool big bro and proves himself through action. Amy is Girl Sonic; passionate and driven and an equal adventurer. Knuckles is Anti Sonic; the authority and conservative force that challenges our rebel hero. These archetypes WORK because they reflect off Sonic himself.

Belle and Soleil don't reflect off Sonic. They reflect off EVAN. They're therapy journal entries disguised as comic book characters. And that's why they feel so out of place. That's why the pacing is always garbage when they show up. Because she's not writing Sonic adventures; she's writing about herself and Sonic happens to be in the room.

Ken Penders wrote personal stuff into his comics too but at least he understood the assignment. His characters still felt like they belonged in that world. Evan's feel like DeviantArt OCs that wandered into the wrong franchise.

But sure; keep defending her. Keep pretending this is good writing. Biden's America deserved better Sonic comics than this.
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>>548558103
Trump is Fredbear.
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if i was a sonic writer my oc would kiss knuckles and massage his master emerald
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>>548558139
Boys were into Monster High and MLP but only because they were young adults who were horny.
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>>548558161
The difference is we like Soleil. Nobody likes Belle.
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>>548558331
Who is this we? I saw nothing but hate for the character here.
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>>548558331
>we like Soleil
Ehhhhh, I just wanna fuck him...
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>>548557827
>implies that you own said cottage?
Implies that the painting itself is about a cozy cottage and coziness, not a concrete box without heating system.
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Soleil at least can tank cum to the face, unlike belle.
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weird how everything in the world became political all around the same time when I learned how politics affects the world
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>>548558453
Belle is literally just wood. How do you fuck wood?
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>>548558331
i don't
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>>548558331
Speak for yourself, I don't care about the sugarglider and his story didn't even feel like a Sonic one but a writer therapy session.
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>>548558161
Nobody is defending Evan at this point. The fact that she isn't named "Evalyn" should've been a giant red flag.

>>548558331
>we
Who is this "we"?
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>>548558140
So me simply having a good place to live is the same thing as me making a statement about how Capitalism is the best economic system ever? Is this really what you believe?
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>>548557374
It's ok anon, people who think Uwuver is gone are just coping hard. Inside their head they think Evan doesn't like the way she writes Silver because she makes him way too cute, when in reality she is talking about not making more scenarios when he gets more serious. If they actually played Crossworlds they would know Silver is established as "the rookie shonen protagonist" who has a lot of inner power and talent but that doesn't know how to handle it because of his lack of experience. We will get more cute moments with Silver and /sthg/ will seethe and shart
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>>548558520
I'll get the dremel
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>>548558446
Just because you are so utterly retarded that you can not see the political tones of that art piece does not mean it isn't there. It merely means you lack a nuanced understanding of art and let your emotions guide you like a woman would. I am done speaking to you, as this is quite obviously beyond your feeble grasp.
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>>548558583
>The fact that she isn't named "Evalyn" should've been a giant red flag.
How?
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I just give Evan pros for her art and Amy. she's super projecting, though.
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>>548558750
You ever see "Joe Dirt"? Good movie, go watch it.
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>>548558685
Oh shit, you're right. Insert fleshlight?
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>i made a painting about a comfy cottage, you can feel how i try to transmit a sense of relaxation and security
>>SO ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A FART BOX THAT COULD COLLAPSE ANY TIME??
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>>548556432
I'm talking about this specific issue and moreso the comparison between Tangle and Whisper's intros. Not really a Silver specific.
>aurafag
I don't care for Silver enough to prefer aurashit or cinnamon rollshit, but I do find it annoying how helpless they make him when stakes are high even in games. It just gets amplified in the comics.
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>>548558604
>So me simply having a good place to live is the same thing as me making a statement about how Capitalism is the best economic system ever? Is this really what you believe?
>you hate pancakes? Well then you must love waffles!
Just because you fell into a schism does not mean I am incorrect. Please articulate a genuine and well thought argument next time, anon. Yes, wanting to own property is political. It means you (rightfully or otherwise) reject monarchy, communism and socialism, which is fine, but political.
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>>548558617
>If they actually played Crossworlds they would know Silver is established as "the rookie shonen protagonist" who has a lot of inner power and talent but that doesn't know how to handle it because of his lack of experience
That's Ian's 2016 Ratchet take on Silver written before he was informed Silver is supposed to be rude.
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>>548558698
>Just because you are so utterly retarded that you can not see the political tones of that art piece does not mean it isn't there.
Making shit up doesn't mean the intent behind that painting is about capitalism, you're just being neurotic and pedantic trying to shift practical problems into systemic problems.
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>>548559186
Why are you still replying to me?
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>548558796
That's the only thing she's good for
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"Auraver"
Okay you know what you guys can't just say things and expect me to understand. What the fuck is that?
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>>548559320
Because you can't block me and your reasoning is stupid, not every piece of art has some deep political meaning you schizo.
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>>548556432
>Aurafag
That's made up bullshit by Uwufags who keep pretending there's literally nothing to Silver's character and the comics "give him depth" instead of just making him the opposite of what he's supposed to be. Fuck off.
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all female ocs need werehog versions
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>scroll through last thread and the beginning of this one
>absolute shitshow with nothing but Xitter/IDW drama and politics
It'sallsotiresome.jpg
Can we talk about Shadow and how cute, kino, amazing, cool, and handsome he is instead...?

Shadow is pretty tough emotionally, that's undeniable. But he is tough because he was forced into independence when everyone he trusted in his life was killed.
He had no choice but to seize control of himself and to find his own path through sheer willpower. His competency and confidence is a shield forged from necessity.

What if Shadow was given a choice in how his life played out? What if he never needed to strong?
When he allows himself to fantasize, he envisions the bliss of falling asleep beside someone he trusts who tucks him in safely under a warm blanket. That's where Shadow would be most at peace. His innermost desire is to be able to be "weak" with someone who loves him, without the threat of betrayal or exploitation. That was Maria, before fate took her away from him.
Shadow was never truly happy even before his life was ruined, but he was more sensitive. He was riddled with sadness, frustration, doubt, insecurities. And I don't think that has ever truly gone away, those sensitive feelings of his are still in there somewhere. I want to protect them. I want to protect Shadow's heart, even if he's just pixels on my screen.
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>>548559480
Silver but with "aura"
basically means silver but badass
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>>548559482
You clearly lack critical thinking, but that's fine. Again, please stop replying to me, as this is obviously beyond your grasp. This is my last message to you.
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bruv is still missing the point
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i only want to protect krack's smile
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KRACK IS HERE

HIDE
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>>548559132
It's also part of his character in the Sonic Channel cover story.
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>>548559603
>Silver but in character
That's a more accurate way to articulate it
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>>548559739
Literally fucking who?
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how can you even function here without knowing namefags like krack, fwa, duofag and idk
alota maybe
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Toyoda's Silver would say "gosh darn it to heck!"
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>>548559739
Hi Krack! I platonically think you’re cute and should keep being yourself!
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>>548559682
>You clearly lack critical thinking, but that's fine
Critical thinking doesn't mean you invent stuff so you can funnel everything into your personal field of study, like politics.

The cozy cottage is about coziness.
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>>548559480
A fallacy by IDW defenders that think Silver being in character is just him being serious and angry for "aura" with nothing else to his character. It's like saying Nero from DMC is identical to Vergil.
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>>548559950
I only care about the games, so I play the games I want to. These names mean nothing to me no matter how many times they are uttered.
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IDW is such a bizarre shitshow, it's just fascinating to watch.
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The curtains are blue, like my favorite character Sonic!
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>>548559950
I like seeing what funny stuff people say here sometimes.
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>>548557789
Why are they so mad, it's a night drive
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getting krack to cosplay as thread ocs
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>>548559950
I'm just an artist. Leave me alone, or else.
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Reminder that the shadow movie and dk movie will likely come out in the same year
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>>548560191
nugget blaze
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>>548560536
or else what?
you'll trace more? or less?
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>>548560214
That's because it's written and drawn by a bunch of neurotic leftist millennials with a penchant for Steven Universe for an audience of equally neurotic zoomers with a penchant for Hazbin Hotel and The Owl House
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>>548560191
jess...
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>>548560742
idgi
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>>548555246
Show me?
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>>548555015
Man, Archie was so fucking good before Ian Flynn made it all sanitized.
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>>548560914
I will never not share this image showing how fucking based these comics used to be, its so fucking funny reading Ken's stuff. An absolute treat.
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>>548560697
wrong one
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Archie had OOC shipping so it was never good
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What's the political meaning behind this image /sthg/?
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>>548559739
I just want to post Shadow bro I'm all drama'd out right now.
Look at him. He is perfect. One of the best character designs in the series. I think they kinda dropped the ball with Sonic characters designs after Shadow and Rouge. Silver and Blaze's designs seem a bit weak, even if I'm fine with/like them. Blaze feels like she has too many colors.
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>>548560168
>real silver
>need to specify character is complex in the very first line
>'flawed' but doesnt list a single flaw
>first and last points are basically the same
this image fucking blows
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>>548561140
Too much cock can kill?
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>>548560742
LMAO
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>>548561140
Well. It implies you want to fuck animals...
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>>548561140
If you try to fuck some 3'3" critter they'll die, apparently.
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>>548560250
fr that's what it feels like whenever I see this kinda "not everything is politics" discourse.

>>548560136
People are political. Their feelings are political. Your understanding of "politics" as a sort of synonym for "partisan theater" or "political messaging" stems from a totally juvenile worldview.
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We’re witnessing Nintendos Dreamcast
How the fuck can they release something like this
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>>548561059
Archie fans need to be round up and shot with idw fns honestly.
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>>548558617
Some of you misinterpret what an "Uwuver" actually is. It's based on an illogical assumption about Silver, claiming he's inexperienced with his power when, in fact, he has been fighting for his entire life since birth that's the "Uwuver" concept. People get false ideas meant to make him look worse and completely unappealing to the Sonic community. It's like saying Knuckles doesn't know how to read or write, when he's actually very knowledgeable about Echidna ancient history and language.
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>>548561338
Archie is dead and cant hurt you anon, I just like a relic of the past. I'm not saying go back, I just appreciate what it gave us.
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>>548559783
No it's not. Toyoda doesn't write Silver as inexperienced. His naivety
>But muh bridge scene
He has that same naivety in 06.
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>>548561140
Blobian x human goes against god.
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>>548556590
>Been here for ten years
>Not on the list
I am conflicted...
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>>548561325
What the fuck you're talking about? That's two console and a handheld.
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>>548559480
Normal Silver who scared IDWtrannies when he appeared in issue 67.
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>>548561325
they know their fans will slurp up whatever slop gets slapped on their plate
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>>548561525
Blobian x human is my god.
We need more Soneliseposting. I think I'm gonna search for fanart of it later.
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IDW is so irritating. Do we really need an entire subsection of the fandom that wants the characters to be emotional and have trauma and vulnerability and all these other therapy bingo words. Fuck off holy shit.

NO this is not your opportunity to pretend Satam and Archie romanceshit was good.
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>>548560168
>White Sonic
>Cinnamon roll
>made by a Sonazefag
Isn't it ironic how Sonazefags call them out on making Blaze ooc but they force Silver to be ooc?
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>>548561281
He's clearly not going to get it, I wouldn't waste time trying to educate someone like that. But I'm not your mom, just trying to let you know it'll be fruitless for someone like him, so do whatever.
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>>548557419
That's one way for her to get some Ultimate Lifecock.
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>>548558161
>Belle and Soleil don't reflect off Sonic. They reflect off EVAN. They're therapy journal entries disguised as comic book characters
>Ken Penders wrote personal stuff into his comics too but at least he understood the assignment.
An actual, interesting point, I'm shocked. All of Ken Pender's echidna nonsense all focused on building up Knuckles as a character. I mean, SEGA had no idea what to do with him so it got pretty fucking wild, but Knuckles never felt like he was just "along for the ride" for someone else's trauma dump, he was always square in the fucking middle of some insane politics or drama that threatened him or his friends.

Was there ever any character of Ken's that was written like an Evan character? Where it didn't matter if the """main""" character was there or not?
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>>548561782
>Do we really need an entire subsection of the fandom that wants the characters to be emotional and have trauma and vulnerability and all these other therapy bingo words
SEGA certainly wants their money.
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>>548561782
dont read comic then, its easy
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>>548561615
The seething was fucking delicious.
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>>548557507
wew!
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>>548561571
Are you saying you want someone mentally ill enough to spam literal nonsense about you for years?
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Why the fuck am i even here? This cozy cottage thing alone after all the idw sperging made me lose several brain cells.

But still it actually speaks volume on how much art is context dependent, because let's say the artist want to move criticism against socialism by painting a cozy cottage, there is no way for the viewer to understand this is any criticism because no element like a comparison between two socio-economic system was made in the painting, it's just an environmental painting, so if we use occam's razor the painting is probably about a feeling you want to express, like being calm and comfortable, maybe it's about impressionism or some other artistic movement.

If the artist intent was to move political criticism he's just a shitty artist who can't speak to the audience, the place displayed could be private, or could be state owned for a family to have their vacations.
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>>548561782
Just checking the box on appealing to other sections of society, don't worry apparently Xwitter of all medias is beating the shit out of them.
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This nigga still doesn't get it...
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>>548562267
Well, when you put it that way, no.
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>>548561791
If it was up to them, Silver would be a faggot and a cuck.
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>>548561615
>67
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>>548559683
>>548562396
Yes i do!
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>>548558331
No we don’t like that shit OC.
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>>548562291
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>>548558285
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Delete all comics
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>>548562015
>Was there ever any character of Ken's that was written like an Evan character?
unironically yes, Ken clearly had some issues with his father and it showed
you can tell because Knuckles father and their relationship take up way more screentime than it deserves, there is even some will-they-wont-they tease between Locke and his ex-wife
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>>548562561
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delete the franchise
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>>548555235
I'm frankly done with Evan and her tumblr/xitter shit. Just get this LGBTBBQ bitch off the book already.
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If I was a Sonic comic writer, I would exclusively write knuckles stories and he would be characterized like he is in the movies
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If we think in DADA terms then every piece of art is about everything and nothing at the same time, because the interpretation is all subjective.
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>>548561615
They deserve it after pushing uwuver propaganda.
Imagine if they were just said it was different and they liked it in idw instead of trying to push it as the superior version that needs to become the default.
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>>548561854
I'm only bothering because they remind me of my libertarian phase. I used to reject anything resembling postmodernism too until I realized I had an entirely mythological worldview that didn't describe anything real and was mostly just getting high off my own Reddit bullshit.

>>548562332
Death of the author isn't really relevant here. You are a political animal even if you deny your political feelings and instincts. We live in a society.
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>>548562528
>implying uwuver is not a faggot and a cuck
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>>548562969
I guess if you feel empathetic, go for it. Admirable of you to give it a shot, at the very least. Good on you, anon
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>Ugh Silver fans just want a Second Shadow
at least that's more in character than turning Silver into IronBoy Jr
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>>548558285
lewd
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>>548562797
Yeah, but the thing is that's used to develop KNUCKLES who is the MAIN CHARACTER. That's the difference. Soleli and Belle aren't being used to develop SONIC.
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If sonazefags were based they'd say Silver is gay and only fucks human men, but they had to try and disrespect him as much as possible, backfiring on them.
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>>548562969
>Death of the author isn't really relevant here. You are a political animal even if you deny your political feelings and instincts
And politics itself doesn't always fall in a right-left spectrum, it could be religious or philosophical. So it's still retarded talking about property in a simple painting with no reference to that.
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Trifecta
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>>548563154
The "second Shadow" in pic rel
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is chroncileanon really a shadriafaggot
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>>548563184
I disagree
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>>548558836
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>>548563184
This says a lot about communism and racism...
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>>548563368
hedgehogs were made for humans, anon.
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>>548563184
>some fag is seething about this
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>>548561281
>Their feelings are political
Not always:
>Politics[a] is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals, such as the distribution of status or resources
Having an emotional reaction is not dependent on that.
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>>548563358
Boring, where's Knuckles,Tails, Cream and Sticks?
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>>548563701
Only male hedgehog girlfriends allowed.
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>>548563138
Perhaps you and you pal are not as enlightened as you think.
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If sonic was real, hitler would have seen the errors of his ways and married a blobian instantly because sonic gave him such a hard on...
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You expect me to listen to you call “auraver” in-character and NOT think you just want Shadow but are too contrarian to admit it? Get the fuck outta here
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>>548563358
Based
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>>548563896
My hero
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Game Sonic thinks girls are icky
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>>548563504
Shadow is for Rouge dude. People posting Shadria here are trying to force a narrative.
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>>548563184
the new idw issue is looking lit
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>>548564026
This
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>>548563794
Booooooooooo. The only one of them who actually might want a gf is lame and dorky
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>>548563931
Making Silver cool and in character doesn't mean he has to be characterized as a Shadow clone
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>>548563931
In-character Silver IS supposed to be another Shadow.
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>>548561365
>an illogical assumption about Silver, claiming he's inexperienced with his power when, in fact, he has been fighting for his entire life since birth
Uh? Is a child a good writer just because you make him read? How do you know he has been fighting the way someone with his powers is supposed to fight? We don't even know if someone taught him how to do it or if he had to learn on his own.
It's funny you point this out actually, because CrossWorlds have this exact problem addressed. Silver claims to know a lot because of everything he went through, but Shadow still points out at his lack of skill (and conviction because he is insecure about himself but Aurafags will pretend not to see)
This is CANON by the way
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Why are we just calling everything racist?
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>>548561281
>stems from a totally juvenile worldview.
Says the faggot who's extremely reductive and superficial.
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>>548564207
Because it is, and racism makes me horny.
Now bend over.
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>>548564120
>>548564146
Which is it? I don’t actually care, I just want to highlight how even fans of the character can’t agree on what they want, and any of the options are shit anyway
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>>548564159
So we're supposed to take Shadow's word that Silver has no skill but not Silver's word that he's seen and endured things that make Shadow "nothing"?
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>>548563365
>>548563931
Learn to use your one braincell and a half, calling Silver another Shadow is nothing short of calling Metal, Scourge,Knuckles,Espio,Blaze and Jet bunch of Shadow clones
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>>548564159
>I've seen and endured more than you can imagine."
Lamever the Hedgehog thinks he's better than The Guy. Dude does nothing unless he goes back in time and job.
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>>548564418
Soulless.
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why doesn't sonic have a rat character?
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When is Silver gonna stop being a vague character and actually show me the shit he's supposed to do and how he's supposed to act?
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>>548564159
CrossWorlds is full of continuity errors and this was written before Ian was told finer points about Silver.
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>>548564541
It does.
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>>548564026
Lol.
Shadow is for Maria.
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Seriously getting tired of Shadria being pushed here
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>>548563184
Gold
>>548564418
Mold
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>>548564604
Can you list the continuity errors?
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Shitver will never be cool.
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>>548564752
Forced soul
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>>548560168
>Silver is Nero
It took 10 years of absence & a shitty reboot with a worse protagonist to get people to like Nero. And Nero WAS hated for being too similar to Dante when he wasn't. The core problem has always been that people will not take to a new character under certain circumstances
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>>548564752
Forced soul
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>>548564373
Silver doesn't deny he lacks skills. Silver point out at his previous encounters to compensate because he knows Shadow is right
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>>548564159
>How do you know he has been fighting the way someone with his powers is supposed to fight?
You're talking about being inexperience in fighting you fucking retard, not being a fucking wizard.
>Silver claims to know a lot because of everything he went through, but Shadow still points out at his lack of skill
So you're saying Silver claims but Shadow is saying the truth? why is that?
>and conviction because he is insecure about himself but Aurafags will pretend not to see
Again with pushing a fucking nitpick to it's absolute heights, Sonic is insecure about being the fastest, doesn't make him an anxious retard.
>This is CANON by the way
You do realize that means Silver is in fact dealt with more then Shadow can image and walked out of it, you're disproving your own point retard.
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>>548564602
when Sega start to give a shit about him again
they didnt do it for over 15 years so lmao good luck with that
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>>548560168
>Blaze mentioned on left and right but not middle
Blaze is ruining Silver.
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>>548564373
yes
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>>548564663
>All of this madness and retardation just to prove a non canon crackship.
They literally tell you in the game that they are siblings you fat tard.
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>>548564541
Vermin the Cybernik.
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>>548564958
>>548564417
Good example on Uwuverfags are actually no different from someone who hates the character
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>>548564602
06, Rivals 1 & 2, Colors DS, Olympic games. The problem is all of his appearances are either obscure or get twisted into something else in localization.
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>>548563635
Well yes. We're really discussing "pre-political" feelings about art. Something like "Sonic likes the environment and we should protect it" is pre-political. But environmental protection is the purview of the state, and the creation and direction of the state (ie, how to manage collective power to protect the environment) is political.

To use the cozy cottage on a plain as an example, a YIMBY would say "we could develop this land to house the poor" and a NIMBY would say "I don't like urban density".

>>548564227
I'm not trying to be pedantic.

To be clear I'm only arguing that art is political. I don't think Gigi is "putting politics into Sonic" like >>548563635 describes it, she's just signaling in group preference and signaling allegiance and purity. I don't like anything about her nor what she's doing.
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>>548564541
Rats off to ya!
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>>548565385
>Olympic games
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>>548564663
Are you seriously going to claim that every time Shadow and Maria are nice to each other is shipping?
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>>548564159
>>548564958
He doesn't say he's inexperienced in the Japanese version. You're pushing shitty Ian-isms again.
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>>548565385
>Rivals 1 & 2, Colors DS, Olympic games
But Silverfags tell me to ignore those games and look at text from Fast Friends Forever.
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You know, you don't have to read any of the comics.
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>>548564602
Silver is a bullet point list of traits with no plan or reason to use any of them.

>>548564159
>Silver is insecure
I mean, I guess.
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>>548561615
If only Silver could also get his 06 quills back, I HATE the drooped down horse-shoe look the Modern model have
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>>548565723
You laugh but that is where the post-06 wave of Silver and Blazefags came from. They didn't know about 06 or Rush and subsist almost entirely on fan art and fanfiction
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>>548564602
just read IDW lol
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>>548566041
And I want Sonic to get his long quills back. We can't have everything.
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>>548563935
And CANON-pilled
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>>548565874
No we don't. We keep telling you to stop misinterpreting them because you think they confirm he was raised in the good future when they don't.
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>>548565968
I'd suck on her claws.
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>>548564159
>Is a child a good writer just because you make him read
Dissagenious tranny, is an adult a fag because he hugs his homies?
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>>548565968
You don't understand, I MUST consume ALL things Sonic, and if it doesn't conform with MY political beliefs, it's garbage!
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>>548566097
Where's Silver? He's certainly not in this image.
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>>548565854
>Ping pong ching pon, you have to take me seriously because I know ping pong
Back to your cave Iizuka
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>>548566097
>Needed to be saved from an Eggpawn by some crybaby donut steel.
I'm supposed to consider this loser my next hero?
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>>548565968
Of course not!
Luckily, you don't have to read to see Whisper's chocolate boobies.
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>>548566041
silver's quills should match whatever style sonic has. If sonic has long droopy quills so should silver
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>>548566248
Where does he mention a bad future in those games?
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IDW Silver is literally written by someone who hates Silver's cahracter
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I like Uwuver in the games because we can't have pic related. Someone has to take the cute boy rol. So let Silver take it
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>>548564686
>>548565132
>>548565787
>>548563368
Ohnonono Shadougekek melty
Back to /dbs/ with you!
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>>548566508
Are you gonna tell me that's not the case for the other characters too?
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>>548566138
At least Sonic's quills either long or short are still correctly aligned
With Silver they just drooped down his back quills after 06 and Rivals for no reason and it looks worse
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>>548556156
That's because Archie has SatAM elements and the freedom fighters. I can guarantee you that millennials would whistle a different tune if the 2000s games had those things.
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>I am a monster!
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>>548566508
Hate is one way to put misinterpreting a badly dubbed game

>>548566601
Silver fans believe only they suffer
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>>548566550
Doog
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>>548566529
vexillology is cool tho
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>>548564602
He's unironically this.
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>>548565385
was Silver in anything actually good?
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>>548566601
The characterfags for other characters get mad when they're written wrong.
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>>548566529
BASEDBASEDBASED
I might redraw this, is that ok?
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>>548566550
Why are you simply mocking the idea of a Shadouge fan being annoyed that a non canon Shadow ship is being pressured? I am seriously just asking a question. Shadow and Maria are not in love. Don't fucking perpetuate that shit in some projects.
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>>548566792
That's true, but they hardly ever act like its exclusive.
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>>548566786
His boss fight in Generations was good. The Olympic Games can be fun.
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>>548566792
NTA but I don't see anyone getting angry that Vanilla is completely OOC in the IDW comic by literally acting like Nicole Watterson.
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>>548564379
They’re actually all Knucklrs clones, he was the first rival
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>>548566817
go ahead
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>>548567045
Vanilla doesn't have fags, that's why.
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>Exclusive
Silver has it worse than any other charaacter. Uwuver is straight up turning him into Stephen faggotry Universe when he was never EVER like this. Archie Sonic, Satam Sonic, Movie Sonic. Sonicfags act like they are being raped when they see those but NONE of them are on the level of Uwuver. Fuck off. When you see hundreds of people mad about something maybe it's valid?
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>>548566468
Last time Sonic had long droopy quills was 06, the game where Silver did not. There is no rule
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>>548567053
Didn't Metal come before Knuckles?
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>>548566734
>middle is a beloved character that balances his temperament with scenes that invoke a positive feeling
>right is an obscure character that would more than likely be changed to be less of a problem for modern writers
>Silver is both
Yep
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That picture Gigi drew of Sonic makes me unironically sad for her. I can tell that was just pure vent and frustration. Very weakly trying to 'stand on business" as zoomers say. It's pathetic how much she sperged out. She said upfront she's having imposter syndrome, all of this was just a public display of embarassment to prove to herself that she isn't terrible at what she does and in the end proved it in spades that she is because she can only default back to virtue signaling pride flags to gain support. Same old sheep in the comments that will defend her for that, but no one actually cares about her for her actual artistic merits because its shit. Why would you post this online? Does she have a humiliation fetish?
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>>548567403
God if only
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>Silver is insecure
Now that I think about it, yeah. Silver has complexitites and his insecurity is a a non-dominant trait that exists to show his determination as the dominant trait. His insecurity can also be discarded if the story calls for it or if they don't want to focus on it.

desu Silver desperately needs a full-time emotional foil to absorb his non-dominant traits, like Gold. Blaze has the exact same problems with her complexity so they constantly juggle which traits are dominant in their relationship.
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>>548567201
Because Silver has people who actually fight to try to keep Uwuver, which leads to a civil war within Silver's fandom. A majority of Sonicfags flip out if Sonic isn't presented as cool or is written undignified in official media. Same with Shadowfags. Silver doesn't have those kinds of fans in large numbers.
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>>548566541
Tails is already the cute boy of the series. That's why he was created, being cute and humble to compliment Sonic's coolness and stubborness
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>>548565407
The problem is always the same, art is context dependent if we consume it. Now idk how much all of this boils with post-modernism since someone mentioned it, but i hate it because my worldview is more dependent on evolution. I don't care in how many ways natural systems can assemble, they all need to eat to survive, and so art becomes functional too for me.

A cozy cottage taken out of context means anything.
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>>548567425
What picture are you even talking about?
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What if Isreal hired every drawfag here to replace their IDW staff?
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>>548567201
Silver was THE most hated Sonic character following 06 and is still the most misunderstood/misrepresented character. I acknowledge all character's problems though.
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You even post the same images in the same thread
You are boring as fuck
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Shall I post more AI shitpost slop?
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>>548567659
>>548537889 This
Also
>I am a widow
I would say this is just her fishing for sympathy points, but I think anons were right about her reverse ego searching the threads. She definitely saw the comments about her becoming a troon to cope
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>>548567240
Nice AI art
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>>548567949
This looks like AI. I am tempted to add more characters here.
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>>548567425
Anyone who wants this to stop should join the Krack side of Twitter. They're the only ones
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This is how Ian views Silver.
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>>548567503
Silver was only insecure in the dub. The original translation intent is that he's hot-headed and can go berserk.
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>>548567949
>are forced to adopt a FOURTH alien
when is this interracial couple going to have a child of their own
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Reminder that AI was used for concept art in both the Knuckles show and Sonic 3. People threw a big stink over it.
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>>548568154
Shadow would go all "disgusting black creatures" on them
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>>548567970
Does fetish baiting count as shitpost?
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Silver can either die a hero or live long enough to become another Knuckles in the West's hands
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>>548567970
Please
Release me
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>>548567970
only if it's sonegg
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>>548568035
Oh, I see what you're talking about now. Yeah it seems kinda pathetic to me to say "this is who I am!" and then show a picture of Sonic the Hedgehog embracing all of the things you're taking a stand on. Basically acknowledging that but for Sonic, nobody would give a shit about your opinions.
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>TIME FOR A GIRL TO PROVE HERSELF!
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>>548568252
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'ge
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>>548566197
OUR HEROES... and sillyver
Amy and Blaze are both for Sonic btw
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>>548567045
People notice but don't care enough since she's the most inconsequential character in the series.
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With that black friday deal that we can get Omni Frags with red rings I got it. 130 red rings, way less than the usual skins.
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>>548561782
satam didn't have romance
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>>548568206
The AI knew
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>>548555180
Why espio x sticks?
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>>548568621
sonic the fighters 2
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>>548568838
>Introduced the most OOC Sonic pairing of all time
>Didn't have romance
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>>548568707
They can wait in line because Rouge gets him first
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>>548568984
Sonic and Sally are best friends in SatAM, not a couple.
SatAM's depiction of Sonic and Sally's friendship is not OOC.
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>>548568135
A pretty typical plot beat for Silver is doubting himself before doubling down. He's just angsty and passionate. Sometimes this looks like being insecure and needing guidance, like in 06.

I shitposted earlier that Toyoda's Silver would say "gosh darn it all!" because he doesn't really write Silver this way, he writes Silver more plucky.
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>>548568938
It's one of those crackships people push to be quirky and unique
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Satam Sonally is basically what people headcanon Sonouge is. It's just people who already hate the pairing due to Archie refuse to watch to confirm this.
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>>548568097
>Is he alive again, idk
When the fuck did he die?
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>>548567353
>more than likely be changed to be less of a problem for modern writers
Modern writers made Henery more brash
https://files.catbox.moe/51qvrc.mp4
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>>548569057
They were supposed to be a couple if the show continued iirc.
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>>548568035
Gigi was sending sexual shit to other men in Sonic Discords before her husband died.
Not joking
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>>548569057
>"Best friends, not a couple"
>Mouth to mouth kissing
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No version of Silver is important enough to justify how much we talk about him. Care about better characters
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Toyoda writes Silver as plucky.

As "pluckver" if you will.
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>>548568850
Willoughby craved the Knucock
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>>548569363
>he doesn't kiss his friends with tongue
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>>548569246
Rough drafts that never got approved aren't canon.
>>548569363
Yes, friends do that.
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>>548569363
Nta but Sally literally says episodes AFTER french kissing Sonic that she is not his girlfriend. Sonic also calls them best friends. They aren't dating, Sonic in satam thinks dating is yucky. He makes out with her because he thinks she's hot and vice versa.
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>>548569363
Yeah
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Uwuver
Auraver
Punkver
Pluckver
Studentver
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>>548569385
How is he plucky.
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>>548568537
I want this so much

>>548569385
I'd pluck 'ver and by pluck I mean skin him alive
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>>548569557
Just use Shitver, it encompasses all of that
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>>548569557
Brashver
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Lego study is right.
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nigdow
nigver
nignic
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Satam discussion is funny because the average person doesn't know that even the Satam OCs are OOC in Archie. Sally is not a dramawhore who hits her boyfriend because he won't be tied down. She's a self serious military strategist who makes out with Sonic because she is somewhat promiscuous but genuinely cares for him deep down. They don't have any drama at all. All of their bickering is supposed to be for comedic reasons just like Sonic and Knuckles in Sonic X.
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Sonic study?
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>>548569378
People associate him with 06 too much that they get easily mindbroken by him.
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>>548568778
I rather not buy omnifrags for now. Seems like you can get all of them for free eventually
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>>548569898
06 is literally his intro story and he’s never had that much importance ever since
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>>548569817
We should study what someone's favorite male hedgehog says about how they view the franchise and other characters
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>>548569810
>"All of their bickering is supposed to be for comedic reasons just like Sonic and Knuckles in Sonic X."
That would explain so much flowers, nose booping and"I totally don't watch at the moon and think about him" moments.
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I don't like how Archie started drawing her with her eyes wide open. It looks just as weird as if Rouge started doing that.
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>>548570025
My favorite male hedgehog is Sonic and I'm a SatAMAfag who likes Sally and Tails.
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SHITDOW

SHITDOW
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>>548569557
Straightfowardver
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>>548569557
And the best one (and eventually canon) Sonver
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>>548570025
>Sonic
Gay top.
>Shadow
Gay bottom.
>Silver
Gay switch.
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>>548569378
If Sega did a better job at marketing and pushing Silver more, people would talk less about him because then he already gets enough love and attention from the company
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>>548570025
How about favorite character? I can’t stand when people act like the male hedgehogs are all that matter, this isn’t DBZ
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Evens, I do something sonic related today
Odds, I play Minecraft and sleep early
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>>548569810
Shame, I like rebel leader Sally and was hoping Archie Sally was that but also a tomboy princess.
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>>548570082
WIFE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>548570231
Build a green Hill zone in Minecraft, please?
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>>548570157
TRVKE
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>>548569912
I bough it because it's 65 red rings for 60 omni and omni frags have time limit. They expire when the season sends and you can't use them anymore.
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>>548570017
No as in, Silver IS the game, everything of good faith about him is trying make another 06 event
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I miss my dad.
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Why is the fishing minigame so op in frontiers?
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Flaying Soneggfag alive, chaining it to a car and dragging it across a salt flat.
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>>548570286
Sally's characterization becomes more like Satam when Ian writes her but the trade off is he made her a sexless lesbian.
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>>548570064
Doesn't x have sonic and knuckles get together with amy and rouge respectively in the original series finale
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>>548570197
>characters who need better marketing and pushing
Get in line, Silver isn’t top 5 most deserving of that treatment
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>>548570608
ST was weary of fishing games after how people reacted to Big in SA1
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>>548570658
Yeah, that's called beard, and Sonic flat out ignored Amy afterwards numerous times.
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>>548568537
Amy having a super form would be really cool, shame Sonic team is very restrictive on who is allowed to have one these days.
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>>548570197
sometimes character just fails, not everything must be successful
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Silver won the 64 Sonic and 64 Mario characters tournament
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9/10 times a character is better when they are written by the person who actually made them. That includes the various western characters.
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>>548570845
Nakamura is still around and Silver is still shit
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>>548570815
In what
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>>548555246
>>548559496
>>548560462
Fuck off Woefag
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>>548570797
>Characters fail
That was Elise
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>>548570845
So, Silver is the 1 out of 10 times?
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>>548571027
And Shitver, don’t rewrite history
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>>548570959
Well yes but that's because Nakamura is an idiot.
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>>548570845
Ian and Evan both created Surge and they pull her indifferent directions.

>>548570959
Nakamura isn't involved with 90% of things that have Silver.
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>>548570636
sonegg makes me happy
they're the only two who matter
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>>548570815
Haha, do you think Silver likes Yoshi's eggs? Haha
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>>548571027
So was Silver. His gameplay wasn't liked by the playerbase.

>>548571152
>Evan created Surge
She didn't. She designed Surge, but Ian is the one who wrote her. This is like saying Iizuka created Shadow because he was SA2 director.
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>>548571125
And Silver is his OC, what does that tell you
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>>548570797
Honestly this is the real core of it all. Hardcore Silver fans don't want to let go of him. Meanwhile the world marches on and we're getting more new characters every game
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>>548570815
Best friends win!
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>>548571152
Then he doesn’t care enough about his own character to keep things straight. If he doesn’t why should anyone?
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>>548570797
Shadow don't beat your son like that
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Silver
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Why are we always talking about Silver?
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>The series is a hodgepodge of different writers making out ocs for one game, and then nerds wondering which writer is the correct one for one character
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>>548570775
I think fraternal love often gets mistaken for eros by modern audiences because there aren't a lot of contemporary examples, and because a lot of those people are women. Many women feel insecure about power-dynamics between couples of opposite sex, and project that fear onto characters. Ergo, shipping characters of same-sex is seen as safer because the characters are subconciously perceived as equal and exempt of sexism. It is a form of escapism.

Anyways, I think sonic and knuckles are shown to have strong camaraderie. Their adversarial viewpoints leads them to begrudgingly respect one another.
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>>548571621
He lives rent free
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>>548571515
>>548570815
Silvoshi
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>>548571530
>Then he doesn’t care enough about his own character to keep things straight
You're projecting again.
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>>548566550
Shadria is the most retarded thing you can put in a fan project
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>>548571256
Evan didn't design Surge either though
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Douge
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>>548571621
Because I have to win this online discussion, it's very important
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Shadow
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>>548571621
deep, complex, and compelling characters always generate a lot of discussion
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>>548569057
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>>548571621
because if you try talking about how certain characters have been done dirty then his annoying fags butt in and say
>yeah but have you seen how SILVER gets treated?!?!?!?!?!1
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>>548571646
anon you are not supposed to point that out
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>>548570815
Time to post cringe
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>>548571997
Practical CPR practice.
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>>548571530
Nakamura only experiences the Japanese media that does keep him straight. It's just the English localizations and American side stuff that keeps changing him. Sonic Team doesn't do anything about any character besides Shadow being misrepresented.
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>>548571974
The Sonic franchise is just a massive crossover franchise where a bunch of characters from other franchises are plagiarized and turned into talking animals
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>>548571515
>>548571696
Poor Espio. Silver found someone with a longer tongue

>>548571646
NOOOO Sonic is supposed to be cool and have a single vision, not a comic book ip with a mask on!
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>>548572076
I hate that Forces and IDW put Amy and Knuckles into these weird official almost governmental positions and now we just have to live with that forever.
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>>548571927
>deep, complex
And where is this deep and complex character you're talking about?
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>>548570143
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DANNY CALLING OUT EVAN STANLEY FOR NOT WANTING TO WRITE SELF CONTAINED STORIES!
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/sthg/ do be yapping about silver though
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>>548571974
Shadow is based on Vegeta not angry anime man
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>>548572313
>Sonic is supposed to be cool and have a single vision
Then why does he have multiple directors and writers rather than one consistent hand writing him? Where is Sonic's Kojima?

>>548572383
>we just have to live with that forever.
IDW literally broke both by the end of Flynn's run. Hell, Knuckles stopped it by the middle of his run.
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>>548572532
Save us, Barnes, I'm begging you
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>>548572313
>>548572487
Espio and Yoshi frenching when?
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>>548572532
>/sthg/ is rooting for this moron
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What if Amy got Stockholm Syndrome for Metal Sonic
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>>548572532
>Black man wants the white girl's job
And he just might get it.
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>>548569057
>SatAM's depiction of Sonic and Sally's friendship is not OOC.
The Sonic fandom's favorite windnigger says you're wrong
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>>548572532
>DANNY CALLING OUT
>Just politely saying he spoke with her
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Go, go, go, go, go, go, go!

Gotta mine fast!
Gotta mine fast!
Gotta mine faster, faster, faster, faster, FASTER!
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>>548572532
Sparky is his alter ego btw
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>>548572532
This is embarrassing for Evan.
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>>548572585
>He doesn't know
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>>548572867
Visionary.
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>>548572532
Danny is basically saying "yeah I told her to write simpler stories and she just doesn't listen."

Look at what Evan is saying here. She admits IDW wants shorter self contained stories. She admits they're easier to repackage. And then she IMMEDIATELY says she's still trying to build toward issue 100 with some big conflict anyway. She literally cannot help herself. The mandate is RIGHT THERE and she's already scheming around it.

And Danny just casually drops that HE personally suggested she do more "open and shut" stories with strong themes. Not SEGA. Not IDW. DANNY. A fellow writer. And she STILL can't do it. Scrapnik Island was four 20 page issues and told a complete story. That's the blueprint. That's how you do it. But Evan would rather shove her therapy OCs into everything and call it a day.
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Rouge is the wind
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>>548572532
I hate this nigger so much but i can't believe how much he nails my own views on sonic.
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Kiss boy. Love boy!
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>>548573236
Rouge is the racist
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>>548572487
lol jk
>>548572810
Ugh never...
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>>548571974
The only one here I did not know is Sally being based on white women
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>>548573263
i an persally stated how much he hated this ship, Ian is such a faggot
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>>548573263
NO TOUCH BOY

IT'S ILLEGAL
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>>548573461
That's Saleta.
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>>548573524
DON'T LOOK!
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>>548573074
Maria is such a furry
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I normally hate Sonegg, but i have one exception
My dick gets hard when imagine Eggman fucking Super Sonic at the start of Sonic Unleashed, when he is bound by that machine
Kill me please
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You know, the drama behind IDW Sonic is way funnier than the actual comic. How long until some anon starts photoshopping Evan into random shit like what happens to Potto and Penders?
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>>548573627
extra soft
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>>548573864
he's taking whisper's order in this picture
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>>548573690
all robotniks are furries
>>548573802
nah that is hot and based, you need to accept sonegg into your heart, you already made the first step
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>>548573864
>>548574010
>"Two number nines, a number nine large..."
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>>548573864
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>>548573864
It's crazy to think about the fact that he's like 100lbs fatter than he is in that photoshop because it was from a few years ago.
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>>548574029
Can you please find something else to be autistic about? My god, I'm sick and tired of this obsession you have with PSME. Not other Sonic fans get obsessed with Super Saiyans and Star Wars like you miserable mongrel.
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>>548573864
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>>548573975
and warm and fluffy.
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Super Saiyan 4 Sonic and Shadow
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>>548573206
You are a fucking idiot, same as Danny. Sega wants to write short stories because that way they think they will sell more comics. Danny wants to make short stories because he doesn't know how to write long ones. Both are wrong because nobody wants short forgettable stories.
The only reason to read IDW is for the OCshit, because you can't get them in the games or in the shows.What makes people hear about the comics? Tangle, Whisper, Surge and Kit. That's the main appeal of the comics. And if you make shitty short stories with characters you will never see again you kill the whole appeal.
I know I know, you don't have to know this, you are allowed to make mistakes because you don't know better. But niggerman and Seganiggers should know, and it pisses me off Evan is the one in the right here
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>>548574251
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You can't save Sonic.

I just poisoned his HRT pills.
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>>548574595
47, those were for Tails!
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>>548573864
Evan just sucks. Tumblr girls aren't even fun to bully. "Soleil is like myself and my parents" like sheesh.
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Remember that we got a canon storyline about a version of Tails who never met Sonic and he became so deranged that he actually destroyed the universe
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>>548574510
IDW is literally anime filler now though. It's best for it to be inconsequential.
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What if Sonic was revealed to be a girl but she just pretended to a boy this entire time
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>>548573236
>glowie
>works for alphabet agency
>owns a nightclub
>member of hellokitty suicide squad
>orbits schizodow as his tard wrangler
>big fan of material things
Yeah sure, "wind"
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>>548574720
Fan video died for this.
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>>548574720
>canon
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>>548572532
Tensions must be rising faster than I knew about if Danny is already calling people out publicly. I was expecting Paps to be the first one since he's basically already mask off with Ian.
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>>548572532
Holy kek he really is tardwrangling her
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>>548574510
It is IDW who wants short stories. SEGA does not care
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>>548572532
Black man CORRECTS white woman (in public)
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You can tell Evan was not part of the IDW "Friend group" since when people asked Ian on Bumblekast what he thinks of Evan's new storyline for Surge in the riders arc he said it would be unprofessional to answer
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>>548574690
That means sonic is going to kill himself after witnessing his best friend death.
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>>548574595
Excellent work 47
https://youtu.be/QLaWVsvSs64?si=BKuMQnNxWbgO-Q1a
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>>548574204
I know you're referring to me and I'm not even the one posting PSME right now. Multiple people post about PSME.
>>548574251
All he really wanted was to be tucked in by her...
The strongest boy feels safe in the arms of the weakest girl. She will protect him.
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>>548574131
reminds me of the hotel level from hitman absolution
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>>548575108
>"friend group"
Artists are not friends. The incentive structure of any artistic industry is brutal.
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>>548574510
The comics are canon though.
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>>548574843
I’d fuck that hedgehog either way
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>>548574251
Even without Maekawa the PSME is heavy
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>>548575140
>Multiple people post about PSME.
Yeah bullshit
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>>548575294
based
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I fucking told you retards that Danny was trying to tardwrangle Evan into writing windshit, you didn't believe me. Danny is not unaware of how bad things are, he's just got a half a brain cell to not be too inflammatory.
I saw all of you in the thread jumping him for "defending Gigi" when he's literally her coworker. If he wants to get his way, he has to look as pristine as possible to Idwfags or they'll use that as a reason to start attacking him for turning their therapy book into game-like writing
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>>548575108
What does Ian even do in this franchise anymore?
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>>548574595
>>548575119
How would 47 get Eggman killed without doing the deed himself?
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>>548572532
This kind of shit is so fucking funny to me. I've seen McDonalds employees that don't even speak the same language communicate and work together better than this.
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>>548572532
artists shouldn't be looking for external validation or bringing their internal drama online FIRST OF ALL
IDW team is so unprofessional it's no wonder Yuuki Imada is steamrolling them
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>>548575140
This is the greatest lie ever told on Sonic Generals
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>>548575395
I believed you.
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>>548555235
how fucking hard is it to just follow instructions
"make shorter stories, involve shadow more"
so few rules to follow and they just fucking can't do it
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>>548575395
I tried for eons to do it. But Evan wants the comic to have its own identity.
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Lmao at Paps fanning the flames. You're hoping daniel gets his way aren't you
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>>548575669
She really does not want to write self contained stories.
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>>548575395
>he's just got a half a brain cell to not be too inflammatory.
>he has to look as pristine as possible
Danny's social media behavior is the worst thing about him.
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>>548572532
I literally fucking hate Danny. I despise him. So that's why it sucks so hard that he's one of the only ones with a semi-decent grasp on Sonic. Fucking hell, the only way for this shit comic to improve is to promote horrible assholes. I hate this franchise. Between Gigi and this shit, why can't Sega tardwrangle these stupid cunts? This type of unprofessionalism is seriously embarrassing.
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>>548575456
Hide a RP-mine inside cubot.
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>>548575767
The problem is she does not want to write self contained stories.
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>>548575706
>Evan wants the comic to have its own identity
And that's not going to happen while she calls it "canon" in the same breath. Her reign went on long enough the past few years and it went nowhere. I'm ready to see Barnes take over and bring in Imada on IDW. Make it happen
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>>548575395
Windfags already have a manga. I don't understand or like that they are destroying IDW. Debating with them is becoming exhausting. They can't even comprehend that some of us like the way the characters are in IDW. I have tried for the last year to get some perspective on it and all I see is a firey rage of destruction from windfags.

Let's just get this out of the way. If IDW abandoned all of the things that make a unique experience to pander to windfags, WINDFAGS STILL WOULDNT LIKE IT. They would still point out that it doesn't have humans like the adventure games. They would point out that it took dozens of issues to get to a state they enjoy. They would be able to tell that the writers like Evan and Gigi and Ian had to be bullied repeatedly into writing completely different characterizations.
I can already hear the furious windfags clack clacking away at their keyboards at me for even suggesting I like IDW. Guess what, I LOVE IDW.
>You just want to ruin all the characters and make them vulnerable
No. I don't. I like IDW as it is. I don't need to play a game with the IDW storylines or anything. I want to see the arcs IDW set up concluded in IDW. Your precious videogames are safe. You don't need to rain hellfire on every panel that isn't perfect to you.
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>>548574720
this feels entertaining for all the wrong reasons
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>>548575108
The "Friend group" was always just a bunch of people in a clique and knew each other. There are some artists who actively refuse to work with some of them due to past bullshit but that's not relevant here.
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>>548575320
I have to wonder if it was intentional, or if it's just that Shadow and Maria naturally behave in the same way that lovers would.
>>548575361
>>548575578
Scribbles is documented to love PSME. It's not just me.
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>>548575953
I got into an argument with her on her original project and I was telling her she had a great formula to write stories in and she can worry about having a grand plan later.

She told me that the formula was an excuse to do world building and she cannot start full work on her story until she has an outline on what the entire story was going to be about.
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>>548564159
Shadow: Fuck off you time traveling wimp.
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>>548576036
People glaze Danny's work.
Also IDW is canon.
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>>548575669
>how fucking hard is it to just follow instructions
For Tumblr types? Very hard. They think they can reinterpret everything how they see fit and have very poor comprehension and reasoning skills on top of their culture of making literally everything about their political views and lived experiences.
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>>548573864
>WElcOMe STHgg To thE BUMblecast I'M YOUR HOssst NightmarIAN shaLll wE BegIn?
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>>548576036
IDW IS CANON!
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>>548570139
Kys
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>>548575858
This is literally just the expected behavior when terminally online attention seekers have to work with each other. They surround themselves with people who will be their yes men and when they stop having to do that they slowly start turning on themselves as they realize they have to compete with each other now.
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>>548575810
>Danny's social media behavior is the worst thing about him
It is to us because he does his best to look like he's batting for the other side even though everything he says opinions-wise directly contradicts everything the trannies want to do to Sonic.
>>548576036
>Windfags already have a manga. I don't understand or like that they are destroying IDW.
>They can't even comprehend that some of us like the way the characters are in IDW.
No we do, the problem is that you all insist that the comic be canon and if it's going to be canon, it should reflect the main canon material. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You had your chance to let it be it's own thing, but you pushed the limits because you foolishly think making the comic be canon means it'll take priority over the games when the writers themselves have stated over and over that will never be the case.
>had to be bullied repeatedly into writing completely different characterizations
>IDWfag complaining about characterization
Spare me the river of tears hypocrite. Oh no you don't like it when your favorite characterization gets overwriting to please people who don't even like the base media in the first place? Damn it's almost like that's what gamefags have been spelling out to you retard for the past 7 years of IDW's run. Reap what you sow fuckhead
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>>548576036
Because IDW is canon and in the forefront of the fandom. Not to mention the only reason IDW exists and has mandates is so Iizuka can have his "shared vision".
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>>548576495
Canonically raped.
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These three are all the same person and you will have to accept it. These are all moments in the same guy's life. The Sonic from SA2 is the same person in the second and third image.
Yes, Sonic X is excluded.
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Evan knows exactly what you people want, she flat out does not want to write it.
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>>548576335
Which line is this from?
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>>548573236
This is why shadouge wins
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>>548576810
Shut up slashy no one wants to hear your retarded ass right now. If she does not want to write it, she can gtfo and let Daniel and Imada handle it
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It's all very interesting anon, very interesting.
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>>548576816
Dawko interview with fnaf VA specifically Aleks
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>>548576909
Everyone wants to hear it. Who do you think posted that Twitter screenshot in the first place?
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CHAOS BRAP
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>>548576778
So sonic is sonic and you don't mind Sonic being returned to a different type of characterization in IDW since he's a flexible character right? He's not consistent anyways, so IDW doesn't need to be either right?
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>>548576770
Non Canon plus Tails got fucked up too
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>>548576810
You're retarded.
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>>548576831
As if all 3 of them wouldn't absolutely take each other down FILTHY!
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>>548577182
This is cope.
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Tails' round puffy ass.
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I'm beginning to realize why sonic is banned from /co/ on site.
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>>548577138
You're just coming up with excuses to remove options that other people enjoy
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Watching every idwfag talking point get dismantled over Daniel being a windfag has been hilariously satisfying for me. They're becoming the very things they mocked for almost a decade and are prone to sperging out the very same way the so called bad actors of jp/windfags are. Autistic sonic fans are truly a sight to behold
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JPfags won
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/sthg/ is obsessing over boogeymen and lolcows again.
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>sonic games on sale
Sonic Forces, Sonic Lost World, or Sonic Colors Ultimate? I have not played any of these before
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>>548577173
AH, tails never got zombified that's the very end, in the meantime raped-ow became a burden and a menace.
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>>548577485
It's not like we have anything better to do...
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>>548577316
>You're just coming up with excuses to remove options that other people enjoy
You mean like you guys did to gamefags who were already there and had an option they enjoyed? An option you guys tried to gaslight them for years telling them its actually in character? The option you guys rallied to overwrite the main version?
My fucking sides
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>>548577507
None of them. Genuinely.
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Idwfags crying for consistency after yelling for years that sonic's character has always been inconsistent to justify the idw writing is peak hypocrisy
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>>548577350
The difference between windfags and all other fans is that windfags are extremely controlling and they demand everything needs to be like the games. We get it, it's different. But it should be allowed to be different. The games aren't perfect and there are ways to explore characters. Let characters be more than their initial concept.
Windfags feel validated when they point at a behavior from the comics that isn't in the games, and most fans struggle to actually argue with them because of this because they are breaking down characterization like it is science or math. No, characters are fluid and fiction. They can be anything. I like "Uwuver" and I'm getting tired of windfags demanding his public execution. I'm sure there are Archie and Satam fans who are tired of hearing windfags call everything OOC. Let people have options.
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>>548577507
Sonic Colors is the better one, then Sonic Forces if you want another one. Lost world you only get if you want to throw out your money.
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>>548577485
That's always been a bit of problem in the fanbase
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>>548577551
>Again non canon and written by a shadow hater.

Cope more faggot
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TAILS ROUND BUTT
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What are you comic dorks arguing about now?
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people always make tailsko's ass smaller...
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I’m tempted to just bite the bullet and become an exclusive moviefag.
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tails square butt
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I feel bad for Tails
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Tails is BOY and his ass is NORMAL SIZED
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>>548577298
yeah, I don't blame them
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>>548578289
Man, Tailsfags just can't catch a break. All down hill since SA1.
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>>548578145
>Shadow is mean to a chao
>the chao DARKENS
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>>548577485
Silence fraud
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>>548577985
Surrender you BLACK hedgehog! Not only it is all canon, but they're going more and more mainstream as we speak!

Join the sodomite side shadow, you can't escape from us! we are cute and valid!
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>>548577751
>But it should be allowed to be different.
> I like "Uwuver"
All this cope and you could've just started with that. Fuck off retard. It could be allowed to be different if it were it's own universe, but it isn't. What the fuck are you not understanding about that? This is the one thing you won't address that everyone in the thread has been pointing out to you. Movies are their own thing and different. Boom is it's own thing and different. Both had backlash at the idea of it becoming something that replaced the main franchise, but when it didn't, people learned to enjoy it for its own merits. Prime came out the gate with producers saying it's canon, IDW wants to force its way into the canon despite originally not being so. Remember how well received early idw was when it was canon? All the shitposting and arguments over it start after it was established as "canon".
This is the core problem uwuverfag, you don't get to be your own different thing when you claim to not be that. Get that through your thick skull
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>>548578374
No character has been unjustly treated worse
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Windfags are to Sonic as Mirage Purists are to TMNT, and I find that hilarious.
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>>548577553
you could play the games
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>>548578289
Cowails
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>>548578289
Tails needs to be used less, maybe bis character wouldn't get brutalized so much if they didn't force him into every plot, so when he does show up he has an actual purpose.
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>>548578431
>Remember how well received early idw was when it WASN'T canon?
Small typo
But to add onto that, archiefags existed in their own little bubble for years because they were they're own thing that gamefags and windfags barely ever ventured into. The arguments only start when they want to invade the main canon.
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>>548578431
Why is it okay for the games to have differences in the same canon?
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>>548578291
His butt is ROUND and quite voluminous, that posterior belongs in a museum.
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>>548578289
Character development is as temporary as super forms.
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>>548578218
The movies are the only thing worth caring about. Compared to whatever the fuck the games and comics are doing, the movies look competent and are moving forward with a purpose
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>>548577751
>characters are fluid and fiction. They can be anything.
So what's the problem with switching up his character again if they can be anything? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Eggman x Sonic
Sonic x Eggman
Sonegg
Eggnic
perfection with every name
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>>548576126
Any spammer can mention scribbleanon as an excuse because he likes everything. nobody gives a shit about psme.
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>>548578740
Nobody likes lost world.
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Tails and Marine adventure would go hard.
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Canon was a mistake, every game should be independent
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>>548578740
Sure try it again. If you're going to pull out this argument, you have to admit you are a hypocrite.
>but muh game's are inconsistent
So if it's inconsistent and sonic is still sonic, you should have no problem with the sudden changes in idw. Sonic is sonic, silver is silver, they're fluid characters that can change right. Surely you're not upset there is no consistency? Right? Surely you're not upset because you want to see more of a specific characterization instead of a different one? They're all the same character.
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>>548578895
I am talking about ADDING new interpretations yo are talking about GETTING RID of all interpretations except for one. That is the the problem. There is nothing wrong about fleshing interpretations out. You are trying to lock down the characters like they're homework. You don't even enjoy Sonic, to you it's some sort of science project.


>>548578431
So I'm automatically wrong because I like a different interpretation of the character? What about how all the other games have different interpretations of the characters? You know Amy is not the same in every game. Even Sonic isn't the same. But you feel like you instantly win when it comes to IDW Silver?
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>>548579186
Tails and Marine adventure would be racist
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Hug boy! Cuddle boy!
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>>548579186
Yes. Yes it would
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>>548578942
This, the only ones bringing it up constantly nowadays is krack. Scribbles isn't a spamming retard.
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>>548578740
>2013 me buying this nightmare of a game as my reintrodution into the franchise after losing interest for a few
years


It worked
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Sonic's fluid
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>>548578942
>>548576126
Scribblefag is a 100% unironic PSME and Maekawa Shadowfag. He literally said so when asked on this general. Claiming it's just Krack is simply incorrect.
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>>548579186
Tails and Marine adventure would involve a lot of humans
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>>548568707
Fine with that.
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>>548579298
>Muh interpretations
Different interpretations are for different continuities.
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Prosecutor tails, you may now open the statement.

>The /sthg/ state VS IDW Publishing
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Would Maria feel different about earth if she saw this general?
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finding archie for the first time back in the day was like finding a treasure trove. I had one of the biggest pogs in my life.
i might not get that feeling ever again
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>>548579340
Tails and Marine sea-to-air race war against the Battle Kuku
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>>548579520
What if it's just Krack taking advantage of 4Chan's anonymity?
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>>548579727
Probably
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>>548579504
Sonic's fluids
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>>548579779
Boosting down memory lane
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>>548579298
>ADDING new interpretations
Uh huh
Adding new interpretation that you hope will replace the old one. You are a hypocrite. We're not going to pretend you didn't spend days trying to shit up this thread asserting uwuver will become canon and get into the games. You're backing away now because you're caught in the lie and want to seem more reasonable, but the truth is that if you could get rid of "auraver" or whatever misrepresentation of game silver is in your head to discredit his actual character, for uwuver, you would do so in a heartbeat.
>GETTING RID of all interpretations except for one
No, this wouldn't be a problem if it were it's own thing. Nobody's getting rid of movie sonic are they? But again, you refuse to address the elephant in the room. Wanting validation. TO BE CANON
>You don't even enjoy Sonic
That's rich coming from an idwfag
>I'm automatically wrong because I like a different interpretation of the character
No you're wrong because you want it to replace the original version of the character because you don't like what the original character was. Acknowledging that it's not the same just proves it. Again, it's rich to hear from an idwfag that I don't like sonic when the whole basis of you tards wanting a different interpretation is because you don't like what the actual characters already were.
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>>548579779
Get into Warhammer 40K
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Fuck it.
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>>548579727
Maria posts shadow sexo
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That panel of Sally giving a speech naked while her hair flowing in the wind is why I started reading Archie. It was because I saw her naked featureless chipmunk boobs. Changed my life.
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>>548579779
I remember reading preboot bacl then. I was so fuckin devastated when that continuity got nuked. I've never been as invested in a Sonic story
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>>548580102
Shadow be careful with th-
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Evan's time is over. Make Barnes the head writer.
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>>548580102
>>548580167
>This is my promise to you!
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>>548580086
>universe where everyone is eternally depressed hopeless and suicidal full of copium
>>548580167
rest in peace, shado zu hedgehoggu
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>>548580086
>Warhammer 40K

This was suddenly all over my FYP a few days ago I'm following along a bit ngl
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Sonic making Shadow preggo and having a gazillion Black Arms hoglets
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>>548580102
>>548580167
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>Tails nervously laughing and ducking every time Shadow is waving around a gun and flagging everyone.
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>>548580385
Sonic needs more mpreg ngl
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Reminder that this is how all uwuverfags actually feel, don't believe their bullshit about just wanting a different interpretation, they hate the game characters and want to replace them
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>>548580072
Why are you so hung up on needing different interpretations to be different canons? These aren't real people, they are entertainment characters.
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>>548580127
same, man. same...
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>>548580116
That squirrel is so inspiring
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>>548580086
I'm starting to.
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>Nintendo marketing Yakuza
>Sony marketing Sonic
>Microsoft marketing Persona
What bizarro world are we in
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I have shitdow fatigue
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>>548580531
That's why they're so subversive and must be purged from the fandom
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>>548580531
Good thing I don't give a fuck about what cunts on twitter think about the franchise
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>>548580608
ain't nobody listening that groundhog speech
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>>548580167
Reminds me of a video I saw of some stupid black dude who was pretending to pull the trigger on his head and blew his brains out on livestream.
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>>548580573
>Why are you so hung up on needing different interpretations to be different canons?
Why are you so hung up on needing it to be in the same canon? Wouldn't you get far more mileage out of a separate continuity that can actually properly explore different versions of the characters instead of just lazily changing them from their original selves. No matter how many ways you try to spin this back at us, you just look stupid. Especially when you've made it clear that you can not handle when they decide to switch from the interpretation you enjoy. You just want a different interpretation that will become the new permanent one and overwrite the old one.
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>>548580307
>>548580732
I hope one of those pretentious commentary fuckers calls it *buzzword* trend ruining it
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YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTER WILL BE USED TO WRITE THERAPY SESSIONS WITH ONLINE MULTI-GENDER-DIMENSIONAL BEASTS
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>>548580926
Shandall or Randow?
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>>548580906
Why would you watch that?
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>>548580385
>>548580513
gross
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>>548580934
Do you hate IDW Silver that much that anything about him being canon is unacceptable for you?
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>>548580772
your alternatives are uwuver and hellokittynic
pick your poison
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>>548581041
>Eggman
that is gross
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>>548580953
Boy doesn't deserve this...
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>>548581063
Mistakes must be corrected.
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>>548580832
>I like twink Silver, it's just that it isn't Silver
The only correct take.
You're free to interpret the characters however you want as long as you acknowledge you're wrong.
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>>548581149
This is what I hate about windfags. You feel so superior just because you like one version of the character when there are many interpretations and they're all valid.
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>>548580942
Those guys don't touch too heavily on gaming stuff besides their too busy making fun of normies for fighting over a 30 dollar cup and waiting in line for Target black Friday goody bag
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>>548581126
poor potato boi
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>>548581038
/gif/ rekt threads fascinate a very dark part of me and reminds me of how grateful I should be that I don't live in the third world.
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If Uwuverfags were reasonable they would just ask for a new character to be like Uwuver.
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>>548581245
I don't like windfags because they lump together many different incarnations of Sonic just because they're "Japanese" even though they have significant differences from one another
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>>548581098
Eggman is erotic
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>>548572532
BASED TYONE!!!
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>>548581256
>Target black Friday goody bag

a pack of uno cards and nerds candy was the prize for waiting in line for hours...eh better than getting a copy of crossworlds in the bag
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>>548581063
Do you hate GAME Silver that much that you want to outright replace him with a woobiefied version? No matter how you try to spin this back, you look stupid. Even if I didn't hate uwuver, I wouldn't want canon game silver to be overwritten by him because I enjoy GAME Silver and not an alternative version of him.
You are a hypocrite that can't even address the arguments anymore, all you can do is stand in cry "wah wah I want uwuver to be canon". All this fluff about games are inconsistent and people hate different interpretations to deflect from the real truth that you don't want to let go of your favorite version of a character you like for a version you don't. And I would feel bad if it weren't for how you reveled in doing the reverse to gamefags for years
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Blue hedgehog fights an evil egg shaped man
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>>548581245
You are a moid that can't follow directions and seethes at >>548557315 because it's true
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blue hedgehog then gets pumped full of egg shaped man cum
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>>548581565
Purple cat fights an evil egg shaped man
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What is so great about Silver's "Japanese" personality that it's worth defending this hard and attacking all the other versions?
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blue hedgehog died for your sins
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I can tell by the way she types that Krack is hot as fuck.
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white hedgehog needs to be crucified for his sins
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>>548581842
holy mother of LEECH
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>>548581853
You're just trying to be subsversive so I'll only tell you that the American versions of him only exist because they're making fun of Pete Capella's voice acting and are therefore invalid.
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Silver scaring the bitches 1
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>>548581853
What's so great about the other versions that they can't jist stay in their own lane instead of trying to replace original version?
I want my thing in my corner and yours in your corner. Now go kick rocks.
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i'll play a video game and i don't believe you have any manner with which to obstruct me
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Best anthropomorphic animal
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>>548581541
>Real

The Stacy and Chad of the world needs what's going on with them lately lol
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>>548582250
have fun :)
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God I hope the next Sonic gets marketing again.
We haven’t had good marketing since Frontiers
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>>548582037
Already there
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>>548581853
Is this really all you have left? You can't even reply to me.
Is it simply not enough to say "I like him"? For all the waving you do for uwuver and how obvious it is you just want it canon for the simple fact that you like him and you hate that people can't accept different interpretations of him, you sure are unable to accept that people like different interpretations of him.
There's nothing needed to justify if we're going by your logic.
I like this version of Silver and I want him to stay and I would be upset to see him go and be changed for people who don't like him.
Sound familiar? I'm not even being coy here, it's the truth. I like game silver as he is.
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>>548582139
The Japanese version of him only exists to be a Trunks clone and make hedeghogs into saiyans
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Forgot picrel
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SSS
Sonamy
Shadouge
Silvaze
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>>548582383
Shadow was already a "Clone" that made hedgehogs into Saiyans. Silver and Trunks have different personalities.
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Have you considered that BOTH Gamever and Uwuver suck?
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>>548582584
Yes. I can only like Silver through my headcanons
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>>548582383
He is exactly like trunks if you ignore they're personalities, and have never seen dbz.
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>>548582318
what's THAT supposed to mean!?
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Silver scaring the bitches 2
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>>548582584
>Have you considered that Silver sucks?
Yes. He's only cool in my headcanons
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>>548582584
Have you considered not being a schizo?
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>>548582636
Gameverchad here. This anon is at least honest with himself and that makes him based and sexy with a big penis.
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You fags just want Adventure 3
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>>548582653
have fun (genuine)
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>>548582579
>>548582642
They’re the same personality. Angsty serious future boy with a “heart of gold” and a soft inexperience naive side
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>>548582832
Thanks for the compliments c;
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Silver scaring the bitches 3
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>>548582836
Who doesn't?
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>>548582584
I don't care how you try to falsify the argument now to give yours more weight. Game Silver came first, he has fans who like him how he is. He doesn't need to be changed for people like you who don't actually like him. No matter how you spin it, you are a hypocrite in this scenario
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>>548582836
Correct. And what of it?
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Sonic says: Rape everyone and blast away!
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>>548582368
You mean good design and polish. Frontiers had marketing but was lacking in good design and polish
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>>548582973
Sonic would rape everyone in the comic because he’s the wind
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>>548582584
No. Never once.
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>>548582956
I’m not the one you’ve been arguing with schizo. I hate you both, but you especially
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>>548582282
>crashing out
>selfish
>power hungry
>easily influenced to a concerning degree
>main character syndrome

Ugh all this just because they couldn't handle Fandom culture and no one wanting to discuss old internet discourse with them

Sonic current successful run benefits it a little so carry on
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>>548583062
>>548583062
>>548583062
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>>548582949
We alreadly have adventure 7 though.
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>>548582836
I just want a highly-polished masterpiece that takes all my favorite elements of Sonic across all the media but doesn't feel like a rehash.

I'm not being unreasonable, I don't even care about the voice actors.
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>>548583072
Yeah yeah whatever you say uwuver sperg, see you tomorrow
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>>548582896
They're totally the same if you paint them in the broadest strokes. Now talk about Sonic and Shadow are Goku and Vegeta.
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Ian makes Silver into Reboot Ratchet with all the parts of Trunks he isn't supposed to have.
Evan makes Silver into picrel.
Both are the exact opposite of what Silver is supposed to be in different ways.



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