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>Part 2 Final Chapter Prologue:
●Release date second half: Saturday, December 20th.
▶Requirements: Clearing the Recognition Battle of Grand Duel Caster.
▶After completing the second half of the prologue, an exclusive servant will join.
-This servant is excluded from Special Ascension and Valentine's Day CE.
-This servant will receive double EXP when strengthening(December 3~20).
▶Magic Stones can be obtained by clearing Grand Duel Caster and Final Logististic Operation free quests,
which can be used to exchange for materials in a box lotto.
-You will get 1 Magic Stone for each Caster servant and 3 for each Grand Caster in your party.
▶Raid schedule for Tuesday, December 23rd.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/cil_final_chapter_preface/

>Grand Duel Caster pre-campaign:
●~December 10 JST.
▶Release Date: Wednesday, December 3rd.
▶Requirements: Clearing the first half of the Prologue.
▶Caster materials ticket added to daily mission rewards (~December 8)
▶AP consumption for Ember Gathering Quests will be halved.
▶AP consuption for Caster Training Field will be halved.
▶Stormpods quests they will have their AP consumption halved.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/grand_caster_cp/

>Grand Duel Caster PU summon:
●November 24 ~ December 10 JST.
▶Check each PU in the link below.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_caster_pu/

>New Limited Craft Essence added to Mana Prism Shop:
●Available till February 28.
"The Chaldean"
▶Increases the Bond Points gained of Seven Knights Servant allies with Chaotic Alignment by 20%.

>Part 2 Final Chapter Campaign:
●~December 20 JST.
See OP >>546900790

>Road to Final Chapter Ordeal Call III PU summon:
●December 1~8 JST.
5*Moon Cancer BB Dubai
4*Moon Cancer Tenochtitlan
Both limited
4*CE "Sea-Preserving Cherry Blossom-filled Dream" (story locked)
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_fop_rts_oc3_pu/

>/fgog/ Friendlist form (2025):
https://forms.gle/WK4dwSC6Mn2WQfZu8

>Utility links:
https://pastebin.com/iaWmXAq7
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Gilgamesh, my one true king.
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CHALDEAN
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Who should’ve been the grand duel servants instead?
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>>548575565
clae friend...
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>>548575282
Entirety of Bhagavad Gita
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>>548575684
Me
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>Goetia
Lvl 120, Grand
>Flauros
Lvl 70 (gameplay reasons, since he likely will be good support)
Sorry but when every female beast is playable and both Goetia and the demonpigman are not, that's bullshit
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What do you think Solomon's ascensions will be?
A. Single ascension cloaked roman
B. Single ascension Solomon
C. Chaldean, Solomon, Roman (True)
D. Chaldean, Solomon, Goetia Solomon
E. Chaldean, Solomon, Lev
F. Chaldean, Solomon, Deer Goetia
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>Karna gets wank
>Arjuna gets wank
>Indra gets wank
>Durga/Kali gets wank
Where’s Rama’s wank at?
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>>548575684
him
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>>548575938
Who?
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>>548575951
Is there any lore behind him having perfect body of classical age hero?
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>>548575684
Musashi, Arjuna ( Krishna ), Scathach, DUDE, Tonelico, Azrael, Beowulf
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>>548575938
Karnawank is the only acceptable one
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WE DESERVE TO SEE A SHIT LIKE THIS ON FGO
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Where is the Foreigner OC? You promised me frog it was going to be the prologue!
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>>548576306
This would fit Sakura as a character.
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>>548576306
the whole pantheon, killed
based
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>>548576306
Someone should replace all her faces with Sakura kek.
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>>548575684
>Archer
Artemis
>Lancer
Ahsoka (dont know why you tease him in FSR event then make him a 4* a year later when hes the 1 with the OP buddha NP)
other than those two im kinda of ok with the default picks
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>>548576404
Never listen to retards who though this short as fuck time slot was gonna be a full chapter. Especially when OCs are said and done.
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>>548576306
Indra would still tap that
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I’d say OC5 lovecraft fags lost this time.
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>>548575684
Outside of Indra most of the Grand Duels are expected but disappointing.
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What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>548575887
If they are pulling the combined Saint Graph with Roman/Solomon (Suzukemon), they will be unlocked after the finale. Just thinking it'll be a waste of money, but at the same time, it makes sense that's the other free raisable Servant with Mashu. The Sugitamon isn't important to Guda.
We'll still have at least one of the "Chaldean" (probably the lazy paintjob Solomon).
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>>548575887
Making it a single ascension Servant would be the most fucking garbage thing they could do. But the single ascension Solomon sounds more reasonable. Cloaked Broman was removed before the duel.
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It's Beautiful.
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>>548575684
>Saber
Uther Pendragon
>Archer
Hou Yi
>Lancer
Lugh
>Rider
Sun Wukong
>Caster
PHH Morgan
>Assassin
First Hassan, so Azrael is honestly fine
>Berserker
Cuchulainn
>Extra
Lucifer
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>>548577851
>PHH Morgan
stop it
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>>548575887
Most likely just gonna be an updated sprite of pic related and nothing more.
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>>548575887
>B. Single ascension Solomon
It's a welfare, ofc it won't have multiple forms.
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>>548578031
It's also an end game most likely 5* of one of the most awaited servants so he's going to be special.
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>stream today
>duel not till the 3rd
?!?!?!?!?
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>>548575938
Whenever they want to do something with the random Super Rama voiceline they added a year ago
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>>548578183
Will just have to wait and see.
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oh yeah, wonder if we'll still get shiki's voice line from all those years ago for !soloman
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>They weren't confident either Chaldean or Galahad would make money
Genuinely curious what they think will by witholding releases until NY
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>>548578514
Solomon being a welfare without Valentine screams Nasu intent
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>>548578514
I don't think any of their choices really have anything to do with money. The game could easily be #1 all the time still if they put in a modicum of effort.
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Which characters got ruined/messed up by part 2 being extended this long?
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For me myself and I? Enkidu
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>>548575684
>Saber
Musashi (true)
>Archer
Lu Bu
>Lancer
Cu
>Rider
Genghis Khan
>Caster
Solomon
>Assassin
King Hassan
>Berserker
Beowulf
>Extra
Olga/Mashu
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I'm happy with the grands we got. Even the super lame ones like Indra and Olga are at least strong enough to warrant it. It could have been so much worse.
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>>548574747
Name dropping is one thing since I highly doubt we'll ever get any of Duryo's brothers, and the only other Karauvas people care for that we don't have are Bhishma, Drona, and Shakuni. Indra's event has a very direct tease about Shikhandi to the point that it may as well already be confirmed.
I don't know if they even plan on doing Krishna. They reference him in really vague ways and knowing how India gets about Krishna, I can't tell if they're playing coy about Krishna for when he shows up, or if they're being weirdly vague so as to not get India upset.
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I might come out as an ingrate because I love my np5 U Olga, but neither Goetia nor Lev deserve the free progressive Servant spot like Mashu got while, Olga who is far more important to the cast, got shoved to the gacha for shekles.
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>>548578183
>of one of the most awaited servants
Not if it's really fucking Lev taking his form
That is Koyanskaya not being a Tamamo level of who asked for this
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>>548579323
fuck olga
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>>548578514
Part 3 headliner big girl like Musashi
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Is the Chalden plot gonna be a Koyan level plot twist?
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>>548578183
>one of the most awaited servants
Since when?
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>>548579576
As in
>This is clearly not what the original plan was
or
>This character's motivations are the biggest pile of self-contradicting dogshit
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>>548578906
Mashu is the prime offender, her story arc should have finished back in LB6.
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>>548579339
Goetia isn't popular either.
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>>548580103
Goetia would have some popularity as himself.
If for no other reason than beast collecting.
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>>548580103
At the very least it's Sugita either way.
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>most anticipated Servant
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>pleb metrics
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>>548580393
All demons gods got sugita so I don't follow you.
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>>548580450
He's not easy to draw
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>>548580692
Same with Ivan
But that doesnt mean hes secretly popular
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Roman is popular, not Goetia, and not even Solomon.
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>>548580686
I just mean that whatever the Chaldean is he's likely to be voiced by Sugita so that works in his favor for mass appeal.
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I think !Roman will be 3 ascensions with the last one unlocked after part 2 is done to give Roman.
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>>548580826
Unlike Ivan he has a bishounen form. Excuses excuses. This is 9 years bro. We can add his fanfic numbers too.
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Post THAT tier list.
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>>548581092
>665
We were 1 away from absolute kino
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>>548580979
This might be the only way to make him popular.
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>welfare
>ascensions
Bros...
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>>548580878
If Goetia is released as hooded not-Roman, he will be more popular than original Roman
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>>548581326
Well if he's like Mashu then it's possible.
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>>548581092
To measure total fanwork (fic+art) pitied vs Salmon (true) is +1k something and Roman is 7k+
Plenty of art and fic work was taken down because the artists left the fandom, but the three characters are more or less npcs who were around in a while, and I think a gap between +7k to 665 is a little considerable.
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>>548581326
most likely 5*
last servant of part 2
multifaceted unless solomon is a gacha servant later
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>>548581346
>he will be more popular than original Roman
Chaldea Man has been around longer than Roman in the game and he hasn't actually gotten buzz because he's just a poor imitation. Unlike Saberfaces, Roman fanbase don't like people who use their favorite to shill a flop.
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>>548581326
Habetrot and Hakuno(n) should have gotten distinct ascensions just like Saber Lily.
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The candidates mentioned by Apoc Solomon also exactly matches that one scene in Summer 8 where Guda searches for mages who might be able to break or workaround Morgan's barrier, with the addition of Circe and Medea there.
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>>548580450
>>548581092
>Thinking people meant Goetia and not Roman/Solomon
Retard
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>>548581713
Chaldea Man also doing nothing and doesn't interact with Guda
My point is that most popular men are always edgy. Oberon, Dantes, Douman. So edgy Roman would be more popular than regular Roman
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We went from most popular and most anticipated to
>w-well if he's trying to larp Roman, he might get fans!!
You just realize he's not popular on his own then.
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>>548582068
Now do Romani and Solomon
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>>548580878
I feel like even Romani is not that popular, just this odd idolized version of him.
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>>548581915
Well, but that's not Roman/Solomon, is it? It's someone larping. Not even the same Voice actor.
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>>548581916
Douman was popular before he became playable. He had plenty of rapefic and rape doujin. Please don't compare him to that fraud Goetia. He'll never pull those numbers.
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>>548581820
Saber Lily is different as she was not a welfare, she was a pro-reg servant that later was given to everyone.
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I just now remember that Saber Ryougi leaked line about being more Solomon-like than Solomon. It'd be pretty funny if they haven't updated his skills and he's horribly outdated.
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>>548582241
Same design, same face, same thing at the end of the day.
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>>548582157
I already said their total earlier. But here's Broman.
You just don't get how big he was in yume scene. He was THE most popular pairing with Gudako on his haydays before Oberon arrived. And half of Oberon doujins have Guda pinning for Roman before moving on.
You're trying to pretend Goetia is popular but he was never a hit. Kirsch had more art made for him as a dead npc and impact. Even if that's niche, so it shows that's not his npc status or enemy status. He just never became a hit. And pretending he was anticipated or super popular in the fandom is rewriting history.
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>>548582517
Obviously isn't because he barely gets doujin, fanart, and fanfic.
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Rank the 5* Casters by their happiness to receive a creampie, GO
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>Abe no Seimei (Fate) has more fanworks than Chaldean Guy
how? He doesn't even have a design.
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>Romani
>Solomon
>Lev
>Goetia
All boring guess I’m waiting for interesting servants next year.
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>>548582241
>>548582928
>Erm actually!
Shut up retard.
You know damn well this is just the devs way of getting a playable Solomon in the game without ruining the story ending of Part 1.
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>>548583395
>Lilith hates you and get valentine scene
>Olga hates you and get valentine scene
>Musashi data lost and get two valentine scenes
Chaldean not having one is retarded. They could say it's dream or something.
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>>548583251
Only if he's Lev.
Goetia ruins part 1 even worse than Romani.
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>>548583125
Nip Merlin that has a toxic relationship with one of the popular husbandos is a money maker timebomb but they're still dragging their asses in even giving him a sprite for 5 years since his introduction
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>>548583520
Pity (you)
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>>548583149
GalaCHAD New Years. Be strong. Glad this flop got welfare'ed.
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>>548583520
Are you even read the story, nigger?
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>>548581880
>candidates
For the love of god he isn't listing them as candidates. He even goes on to lump them into a broader category of competent mages at our disposal.
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>>548583563
>Goetia ruins part 1 even worse than Romani
Him finally realising that Solomon was right and doing his job is actually good development though
Otherwise it looks like Goetia was created for nothing
Which makes Solomon's God a retard (since he told Solomon to create Goetia)
If Chaldean is Goetia, God's plan actually makes sense
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>>548583520
He's not going to last to Valentine's. He'll erase himself because he can only exist until Chaldeas defeat. They'll probably refund your exp cards if you spend them.
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>>548583798
Yes?
Even if Chaldean dies to Ars Nova-2, they can always say it's dream or what if.
We have Space Ishtar valentines which is not canon at all.
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>>548583910
Goetia realized Solomon was right by accepting that he had a finite existence and died, finding joy in his brief "life" fighting for what he believed in. That was his fucking conclusion. The entire climax of part one. Him saying "Wait a minute, I don't wanna die Guda" is completely shitting on the finale, when Ars Nova should undo his entire existence. He's a spell Solomon made, if his works are complete, and leave, so do him.
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Why do Lev schizos are always seething about Goetia and Romani?
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>>548584163
I stopped replying the moment I saw him say "You're trying to pretend Goetia is popular" when people were talking about Solomon.
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>>548583910
Goetia already had his conclusion anon. It was him, not Roman, who needed to die.
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>>548583941
>erasing unit from gacha
???
They could just use him as NPC like LB7 Olga then
Why make him actual servant at all?
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>>548583125
Women thirst for abusive assholes knows no bounds.
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>>548584402
Implying that this is a gendered trait when
>stop liking evil women
is a thing.
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>>548583873
I love that the same people who were running with the headcanon that Indra was lying about being the Grand are the same people that are misinterpreting this line to make their own Grand Caster candidate headcanons.
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>>548583941
They're not gonna do that. You'll still use him in gameplay but story-wise he'll be gone most likely.
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>>548584367
They can always say that when dying he saw the Bleaching and decided that he can at least stop Chaldeas before dying for real
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>>548584343
Solomon isn't playable, and Solomon isn't that popular either. Why do Goetiafags always try to ride on other characters popularity instead of his own? Nobody is pretending Lev is popular. But neither is Goetia, Chaldean or Solomon.
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>>548584746
Brosisis. The incineration plan happens in every timeline.
We have Goetia's POV all over the temple and never once he thought or brought up about muh bleaching, muh chaldeas! muh marisbilly!
There was a single (1!) demon god and character who hated the Animuspheres and their plans. And that was Flauros. The one who always stops Goetia's plans in other timelines chooses not to. The part of Beast I who didn't get a conclusion that could ruin the climax if retconned like Goetia did.
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>>548585102
Flauros didn't care about Marisbilly and Chaldeas in part 1 either
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>>548584746
Goetia has a long monologue in the temple to explain why he's doing his actions, and it's because "death sucks and life is meaningless if they end." His entire fucking CHARACTER ARC is about accepting death is meaningful , and he should accept his own.
There happens to be another character who said from the beginning, "This is your family (animuspheres) fault" to Olga which effectively links him to part 2, who appears in the same tie in anime episode that kickstarts part 2 and where Chaldean first appears. But you don't like him.
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>>548585564
Anon read the fucking Prologue. Watch the fucking FIRST ORDER when Nasu changes his characterization a bit from psychoptic to legitimately upset, snarling"Your family's lunacy caused all this!" To Olga. Nasu wrote that shitty neko arc shitfest that further pushes Lev Flauros as an Animuspherehater.

FLAUROS SAID THAT.
Goetia didn't.
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>Holmes subplot ditched to Traum
>Galahad's appearance shoved into OC4 and reduced to 5 minutes
>Solomon's grand return being... this
>everything to do with Olga
I can't say I'm holding out any hope for Marsbars being good. What use is a final boss that shows up only at the last possible second?
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what the fuck could the animuspheres possibly have done in this specific timeline that pissed flauros off anyways. Like yeah obviously Chaldea but back alley nightmare implies his hatred goes back way, way more than just chaldea
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>>548585564
Read Fuyuki.
And watch first order, and the adaptations of FGO. Flauros is always blaming the Animuspheres. One of the manga adaptations even hints Saber Alter and he were working together against the Animuspheres but failed.
Fuyuki isn't even part of Goetia's plans. Flauros seemed to try to unfuck that before deciding to go with the hive and burn them all.
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Useless meat.
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>548584774
Who is bro fighting?
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>>548585582
He's ugly.
Also Beast I fighting Beast VII is kino.
Random NPC fighting Beast VII is not.

Also all that Lev said in Fuyuki was
>Now behold, descendant of Animusphere.
>Behold your folly!
>Not a sliver of blue representing human survival remains.
>Nothing but a burning, bright, red.
Nothing about hate for Animuspheres, in fact he told about humanity being finished way more there
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>>548586232
>>548584774
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I don't remember this chapter in the manga.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
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>>548585582
>>548585905
>>548586137
Fuck off thessaliah and stop answering 3 times to single post, as if the samefagging isn't obvious.
I hope you kill itself when it's Goetia. So the threads would finally be useable.
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>Giving yourself a (you)
Lmao
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>>548586506
this is BB-generated and fake
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>>548586132
Flauros character can't be understood without Clocktower 2015 which reveals he's a guardian of the present even against the past and the future (the 2 crisis in FGO are referred as the future and past attacks by Holmes in his interlude).
I sympathize people dislike his FGO characterization but Olga was in a same bag. Nasu was busy writing shit about them outside the game, and he wanks Flauros as the unsung hero who saves those timelines.
He hasn't written anything new with Goetia. He has written Roman, Lev and Olga.
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>>548586506
>102
Level him
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>>548586568
That's a schizo
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>>548586365
>he's ugly
well now he's not larping Broman.
All the demon gods were part of Beast I. I fucking beg you to read the actual story in Time Temple and not use a fucking raid as "proof." There was ONLY A SINGLE SAINT GRAPH, all the space was them (Flauros).
he's the specific part of Beast I who fucking hates Brosphere. While the part you like already have a storyarc of accepting death was meaningful BY DYING AND BEING JOYOUS, so trying to bring him back is worse than Roman whose sacrifice is just like Kirsch.
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>>548586667
I have to finish getting my Grand lineup prepared and Quetz needs another 43 goddamned Chains for her skills.
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>>548586380
Because people equate Goetia/Lev/Chaldean as popular and "anticipated" Servant when they aren't.
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>>548586772
No shit
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>>548586412
>doesn't have Over the Same Sky
>but gets to appear in an original chapter
At least is a win for me. Also why are they teasing it like that? Are they planning something?
Like, the previous chapter was with Roman being remembered and now we got Chaldean as Solomon Grand.
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Abe no Seimei is more anticipated than Gaytia.
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>>548587031
After that then
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Who is going to be your Grand Caster, /fgog/?
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>>548586365
Watch First Order.
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>>548587741
Gilgamesh
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Why doesn't the new Servant get a Valentine?
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Does no one here feels that this year was kinda rushed and incomplete?
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>>548587741
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>>548586365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWJ5z9a3doQ
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>>548588106
They have been phoning in since LB6. I'm not having great hopes for a continuation.
>>548587741
Depends if AOE or Single target.
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>>548587741
Big Vinci
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Bring me the guy who told me this was going to be Foreigner OC. I saved my quartz for the rate up, nigga.
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>>548588035
I mean, Mash doesn't have Valentine scenes either and can't be selected to give chocolates, but there are still chocolate CE's said to be from her.
Maybe it'll be the same for Goetia-Solomon-Romani-whatever.
Maybe Valentine will be some kind of epilogue to Part 2 or something.
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I’ve got two questions for you, /fgog/:
>Is there a Siegfried figure in existence? Not a nendoroid
>with Goetia inbound does that mean Void Shiki’s datamined voiceline from years ago of “A Solomon more Solomon than Solomon” referred to him?
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>>548589414
https://myfigurecollection.net/entry/70232
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>>548588946
Meh. Mashu doesn't need it because she gets millions of shilling as waifu within the story.
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>>548589462
The newest meme trend on Twitter.
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>>548589497
>only nendos
Why…
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>>548589774
No he doesn't even have a nendo
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>>548589863
Oh. Looks like I was under the wrong idea of what a nendo is
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Can't someone datamine the Servant values? It should be there.
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>>548590013
I don't think they have added them yet, at best there's going to be a placeholder.
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>>548586026
>I can't say I'm holding out any hope for Marsbars being good.
He has not a single non generic sprite until Oc4. It's already dogshit.
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So do you think we'll get to use the Grands in every battle or just the final battle?
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>>548575684
Saber: Arthur/Artoria
Archer: Artemis/Apollo, if you're going to a god, at least do it with one who is synonymous with the weapon
Lancer: Karna
Rider: Ozymandias
Caster: Merlin
Assassin: Cain
Berserker: Beowulf
Extra: Goetia as Pretender
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>come back after 11 months
>aphrodite STILL hasnt been playable
FUCK NASU
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>>548590746
coward
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>>548590893
I really don't get what the fuck is up with Nasu. It would be one thing if we had next to no non-pseudo gods, but they've just been tossing them at us non stop and we've had artemis since near day one anyway.
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>>548590903
I fail to see the point on what he's doing.
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>>548591274
>>548590903
Why are you care about schizo?
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>>548590578
Shit from beginning sorry
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>>548591451
In english
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https://x.com/oldwomanisntup/status/1995633421553729601
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>>548591720
Caring about schizo, lol
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>>548591451
>>548592031
Esl...
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I like how Chaldean listed Ziya as a powerful mage meanwhile dude jobbed in every event.
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>>548575684
I said this four months ago >>538094619 and I'm gonna repeat it:
Saber: The original wielder of Excalibur from 14,000 years ago
Archer: Jimmu
Lancer: Odin
Rider: Genghis Khan
Caster: Solomon
Assassin: King Hassan
Berserker: Cain
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>>548583743
>Future Mashu victim
>Chad

Lmao. He's going to get his ass kicked by her. Like father like son
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>>548592124
Eop
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>>548583873
I think it's quite around the nose. The fact it's the second time the same group of strong casters are singled out again is telling. Heck, just being singled out by Solomon would already be telling enough but it's not even the first time the story has signalled most of these characters (Merlin and Tai Gong don't even need to be said they have been almost obnoxiously explicit about it themselves in particular).
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Kissing, breast feeding, post-orgasm cunnilingus (mostly this) and hand-holding missionary sex with my wives
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>>548592552
for uther
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so who will be the best choice for grand caster if ST or AOE?
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EoS in three months
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>>548592719
Jobbing and being powerful are not mutually exclusive traits.
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>>548578667
Wasn't the original plan for releasing Solomon that he'd be a freebie given out after Part 1 ended when they still thought FGO would EoS right afterwards?
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>>548592956
>The original wielder of Excalibur from 14,000 years ago
Didn't they reveal it was Artoria in Extella or whatever.
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>Another free male
Meh
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Is Solomon's boast about being the strongest caster even true tho. And he's about to get his ass kicked anyways. Pala Mashu and Guda are still arguably weaker than LB King Morgan.
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>Odin
Remember Gungnir is weaker than Gae Bolg.
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>>548594446
morgan got mobbed and she had the existence tax buff.
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>>548593864
Aye forget Shirou beating Gilgamesh, remember when he was captured and used as a power battery in Extella Links? Fun times.
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>>548594446
>>LB king Morgan
>>jobbed by random fodders
LOL
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>>548594446
How strong even is Paladin Mash(u)?
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If he's just Lev with no Goetia, that'd be pretty retarded. All Lev ever did towards Guda was yell monologue like a retard. The two never interacted in even the slightest meaningful capacity to elicit any kind of reaction.
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If Solomon/Goetia/Chaldeaman or whatever is supposedly so popular why wasnt him the anniversary servant?
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>>548594824
Should be about equal to Galahad since they sort of stalemated without really damaging one another, so nebulously Grand Servant level. Actually should make a fine match for Grand Solomon according to what Romani said in London. She also had a (slim) chance of defeating Metatron by herself.

But LB Kings should be stronger than a single Grand.
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>>548594878
He grudgingly respected Guda in the Temple.
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The theory is 90% correct.
You can kneel now, /fgog/
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It's over
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>>548595612
I buy Musashi -> Herk but, Herk -> Indra is stretching it too much
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>>548595521
All of three sentences, which was just the prelude to mockery. While Guda's time with Goetia wasn't particularly long, it was so much more impactful. If Guda's going to be having any reactions to the Chaldean beyond the Roman connection, him caring about Lev in any capacity makes no sense, while it makes sense for the sane Lev side to be the one who gives the greatest fuck about Mashu.
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>>548595819
Cute toxic wife
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So, no playable (you)?
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>>548595132
Lol you mean skadi is strong. Morgan using advantage of her world make servant weak
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>>548592963
Mash won't have paladin form anymore in future.
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>>548596637
Morgan >>>> Skadi.
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which one was the funniest in terms of actual fight?
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>>548597258
What the fuck is with Takeuchi's art here? Has he just given up?
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>>548597258
lancer was the fuckig worst
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>>548597461
>Has he just given up?
this is the most effort hes had to put into anything over the last 3 years.
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>>548595862
Base of Flauros is a big shitty cat. He'll always be a tsundere.
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>>548597053
I'm not saying that but if you think lb king skadi stronger than grands just lmao.
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>>548595862
Olga became that chick who was a bitch who died in the prologue to MUH ONLY DIRECTOR. All because Nasu revisionism about FGO early days. I get what you are trying to say, but sadly Nasu has an idea of FGO in his head he never wrote.
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>>548597461
He doesn't care for males.
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>>548598404
Olga at the very least had an effect of lasting trauma and a small chapter of bonding. The Lev glowup in role is aided by a lot of outside FGO stuff but any emotional connection was still never there for him and Guda.
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>>548597258
Berserker or Extra
Lancer can go fuck itself
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>>548597258
Most of them were relatively decent.
The only exception being Lancer. That shit clearly wasn't tested properly.
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>>548597258
It was funny how utterly useless most of my friends' lancers were.
Only a well-invested Bhima, Bryn and Scat could finish Indra off and they were rare because everyone else was granding Melusine or Clae.
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>>548600762
double melu can do it but the one that deals the finishing blow also has to be maxed to hell
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>>548598928
>Olga at the very least had an effect of lasting trauma
Trauma he only included in game in part 2, and anime specials. Where all Olga characterization went. Lev got multiple new scenes Nasu wrote his character better too. When you question Nasu's choices, you see what he wants to write about, not what's popular or what you like. Look at poor Batman. He didn't even write him a meager profile. He just lost interest. Lev and Olga suspiciously getting as much spotlight when he set up Part 2 while he had no extra juice about Goetia... He detailed the new Lev scene fight scene in the temple more than he bothered with Goetia's.
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but why the need for 2 days between prologue and the duel?
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Hey question, if you used Chen Gong's NP with a servant that has Guts and Tonelico's S2 active, would they get the full 60% Atk Up for their next 2-3 cards?
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>>548601451
You know why, bwo.
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>>548601451
uuhh because effort.
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>>548597258
Why is Solomon balding?
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>Liz was truly the last Servant of the game
MEGA GRIM
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>>548581916
You lack understanding of what women like. Douman aside, who is a niche of the dom/rapist at least as he began, for fetish (not perceived as a love interest but a guy to fuck): women love "I can fix you" guys. Oberon and Dantes fill that niche from their respective Prince and Shadow Protector scenarios. Roman became popular because he was the ultimate "I can fix you" guy fantasy. He never even had feelings before, so he had the women (experience) but was pure. His type appeals to older ladies who just want a more grounded partner. Edgy for the sake of edge isn't what matters, but the substance and meat. Guda having strong emotions help a lot too. Hajime is not very edgy (one of the least from Guda Guda) and he's another fan favorite as love interest. This is a very recent art.
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Goetia is more a fujo character. He's not very popular with yumes.
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>>548594446
>King of mages
I think he has a point
>Pala Mashu and Guda are still arguably weaker than LB King Morgan.
You're out of your fucking mind. What is with this general and Morgan wank?
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>>548602741
NTA but, i stll dont get the appeal of Doritoman
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>>548595132
Why would you believe LB kings are stronger than grands when Qin was an LB King with a grand-class SG? Or that Quirinus was equal to Zeus? The high-end LB kings like Kukulkan can be stronger than grands but on average grands and LB kings are interchangeable.
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>>548597461
What do you mean? This is the first time in like twenty years Takeuchi's drawn Gil on-model to Stay Night.
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>you're allowed to bring Mashu to the fight in lore
does this mean all grand battles could have been fought with Trashu around too?
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>>548604931
NTA but the model isn't my issue, it's the coloring. Barely feels like they tried. All the other grand servants have a darker tone to them.
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>>548604632
>>548595132
not all grands and LB Kings are equal.
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>>548605089
Eh, I'd say Solomon matches the tone the others set at least, and I'd say Olga's and Gil's make more sense if you consider the context that Olga's probably got her big fuckoff lights behind her and Gil's got a hundred Gates open all around him.
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>>548605189
Yes, that is clear in my post, anon. The post I'm replying to is saying that a single grand shouldn't beat a LB king. That's definitely not true.
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So are Grands Divine Spirit tier or higher?
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>>548605682
You have chief gods as grands. Several of them.
What do you think?
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Sion sex
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Why does Odin need to go through thirty-seven loopholes to pseudo-incarnate, but Indra gets to just say "Fuck it I and I bring my yacht too"
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>>548605682
Divine-Spirit isn't a tier. There is no upper limit for how a strong a divine-spirit is because they are just a category of being. It's another story if you want to talk about existing divine spirits though.
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>>548606054
With FGO as long as fragmented as it's become, you'll learn to take these matters with grains of salt. Don't make comparisons because it won't make sense. Just accept what's being said in a vacuum and understand it's just cheap hype that won't check out for 2 seconds if you thought about it. Example
>Arcueid and Kukulkan are normal servants that can be summoned without any hoops. Same for several others.
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>>548606496
At the very least, Nasu set up a loophole for Arc way back in Extra, with the implication that it's weird Arc got summoned, and it'll always be the same Arc, but it's not inherently a non-starter. And he also established that The Cooler Shiki can kill Servants.
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>6/9 of my grands were released this year
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>>548606054
Odin got fucked up thousands years ago when Gaia was feeling petty while Indra is still worshiped by the most populous country of Earth.
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>>548575684
>Saber
Kojirou or male Musashi
>Archer
Hou Yi
>Lancer
Jesus, with the spear of Longinus
>Rider
One of the Horseman of the Apocalypse
>Caster
PHH Morgan
>Assassin
Hassan of the Fathomless Rift
>Berserker
Cu (not the Alter one)
>Extra
Cath Palug
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I think this is the only place that gives a fuck about Hou Yi
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>>548607294
Actually from what I learned of Hinduism Indra is not widely worshipped at all and when he is it's often indirectly in a ritual invoking many. I think there are more Buddhists who worship him than Hindus.
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>>548593170
>The fact it's the second time the same group of strong casters are singled out again is telling.
Yes. Because they're strong casters. Plenty of Servants are given "best of the best" lip service, but of the group the only ones who have been labeled Grand Candidates are Taigong and Merlin, which is incidental because Solomon says we have numerous powerful Casters, not just those four.
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accidentally fell asleep. what'd i miss?
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Is Caster still the weakest class?
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>>548594446
Solomon doesn't exactly say he's the strongest. He says that other Casters are going about being a Caster the wrong way. What does that mean? You fucking got me, but he's working an angle.
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>>548597258
feels like they kind of have a grudge against artoria.
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>>548608449
>Caster
>Magus. Qualifying conditions only include mastery of sorceries of the highest calibre. Due to this trait, the qualifying Heroic Spirits tend to have low combat abilities. In addition, since the majority of Servants have Magic Resistance, this class is thought to be the weakest of all.

the only reason Caster is seen as the weakest class is because 4/7 classes have magic resistance as a basic skill
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>>548577851
https://pastebin.com/wh7B7pd3
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>>548607710
See >>548608756
I unironically think it's just latent FSfag influence.
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>>548594446
>They're all skilled but fundamentally wrong
>"A dream weaver that's all talk" - Merlin
>"A fake sage who claims to be equal to a god" - Taigong Wang
>"The Queen of the Snowfields" - Skadi
>"The miserable remnants of what was once a savior" - Morgan/Aesc?
no fucking clue what he meant by they are thinking the wrong angle
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Isn't he saying magi should fight with familiars and we're going to have a Pokemon battle?
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>>548605682
Better than a normal Divine Spirit in a normal Servant graph, but probably not on par with an actual Divine Spirit.
Qin was able to make something on par with a Grand Ruler Saint Graph, but by his own admission it still would have taken him hundreds or thousands of years to make the magic necessary to seal Koyan.
In comparison, Godjuna, by Doman's words, could have deleted Koyan on a whim.
But also Godjuna took out someone who qualified for Grand Lancer/Archer, and then a couple thousand more, two of which (Vishnu, Shiva) are canonically stronger than Indra, and possibly permanently took out Vritra too, who is only slightly inferior to Indra with the added bonus of being impossible to kill.
But then, Super Zeus was beat by a Divine Spirit and a Grand Lancer.
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>>548608756
A shame the Flustered Saberfag died during THAT incident. What a rotten way to die.
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>>548609298
>Better than a normal Divine Spirit in a normal Servant graph, but probably not on par with an actual Divine Spirit.
Top servants are already on-par with divine spirits. There are chief gods as divine spirits.
> Super Zeus was beat by a Divine Spirit and a Grand Lancer
He was beaten by your entire party. Hilariously, the only divine spirit there is Caenis. Mars was not a divine spirit.
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>>548609298
Never forget that all Fate fights are decided by chuuni asspull conceptual matchups, not hard numbers.
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>>548609298
This logic makes no sense.
Qin is fully aware of what Koyan is. Douman is not, and has no reason to expect that Arjuna knows.Koyanskaya is the kind of beast that Douman tried to become.
On top of all that...Arjuna Alter isn't a divine spirit. He's a human who became a god.
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>>548609298
We have run into divine spirits countless times. They are not nearly given the same gravitas as grand servants. It's telling that the kings of those mythologies merely qualify as grand servants, and they aren't particularly special ones either.
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>>548608756
I remember reading this ages ago, damn. Honestly I think this is cool
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Berserker vs Lancer

No interruptions and no distractions from masters etc

Who's winning this?
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>>548610513
Heracles? Cu can take one life at best and then just jobs
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>>548610513
9/10 odds for berserker
Nasu says Lancer has a very small chance if he uses his runes for one big attack basically.

But then again you can't count out Heracles jobbing ability, its all he lives for.
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>>548610513
If Cu got access to his magic and other weapons like a more modern Servant could get away with, he'd have the advantage. But the downfall of being the first Lancer is he's one of the most restricted to his archetype, so he doesn't have enough means to kill Heracles unless he can bullshit taking a ton of lives at once.
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>>548610513
Berserker nearly every time but canonically Cu has some chances according to Nasu
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>>548610635
How did Archer take 6 lives from berserker?
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99% of all FSN match ups were answered 20 years ago in interviews

>Q. Lancer, Caster, Assassin, and True Assassins; all with normal attack and Noble Phantasms of B or lower. If they fought against Berserker, wouldn't it be a one-sided fight? Or are there any of them that can match up against him?

>A: Assassin and True Assassin by themselves wouldn't even be a fight. Lancer can use his runes and Noble Phantasm together to temporarily raise the rank to A, but it'd still be a very disadvantageous fight but "one with some chances". Caster has two front-line Saber-class defenders, so if she uses her high sorcery then she'd be able to deal damage, but that would be limited to 2 to 3 times. Also, in the game, Assassin was able to push Berserker back because of the terrain advantage and support from Caster (weighing down Berserker's body). ...Well, since the compatibility of Assassin and Berserker is horrible, the fact that Berserker was even pushed back is enough to say "whoah, Kojirou's amazing".

>Dengeki Hime 02/2006, Type-Moon Double Maniax - [Fate] Dream Battle - Rider vs. Lancer
>The two boasting the most outstanding speed in the game. Rider, able to move like a bullet and race around the battle field vs Lancer, able to counter attackers with a lance with the speed of gods, while standing still. In average speed, Rider is faster, but in immediate maximum output, Lancer will win. While Rider has several different types of Noble Phantasms, Lancer also has protective ability from rune sorcery, hence counter measures from her mystic eyes. Against an expert monster exterminator like Lancer, one who has a monster alignment such as Rider might seem to be in for a tough fight....!?
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>Chaldean calls Mashu, "Mashu."
Huh.
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>>548610876
Broken Phantasms.
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>>548610876
At least six different weapons, and he has to turn all of them into Broken Phantasms

Its a tactic only he can use, since other servants can't use Broken Phantasm willy nilly.

However the chances of him actually winning that fight were basically non existent. It takes 30 seconds to charge up a BP, he has to hit Berserker 12 times with full power death blows, while Heracles only has to hit Archer once and its over. Archer eventually loses the contest the second he takes even a minor hit
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>>548608756
I'll never forget that he made a better Saber Diarmuid and Roland than we actually got.
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>>548609719
>Douman is not, and has no reason to expect that Arjuna knows.Koyanskaya is the kind of beast that Douman tried to become.
An irrelevant digression as Koyanskaya still needed the Storm Border to survive since she couldn't leave the Lostbelt.

>On top of all that...Arjuna Alter isn't a divine spirit. He's a human who became a god.
Literally has the Divine Spirit trait
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>>548610917
Always wanted to see Rider vs Caster desu
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>>548611095
>An irrelevant digression as Koyanskaya still needed the Storm Border to survive since she couldn't leave the Lostbelt.
That's irrelevant. Koyanskaya wasn't ready to leave. If you read in-between the lines (or just materials), you'd know someone with independent manifestation could come and go as she pleased.
>Literally has the Divine Spirit trait
Doesn't make him a divine spirit. Divine spirits by default, are hollow existences that require anchors to the world. Arjuna is an enflshened god.
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>>548610919
What does it mean?
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>>548611373
Probably used runes to keep Gil from leaving and facetanked until his Battle Continuation stopped qualifying for overtime pay.
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Two weeks wasted on a fucking two chapters single node? I don't count the duel there, but fucking really?
It's not even going to answer shit because Chaldean can join in the beginning of the finale too.
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>>548611373
Gilgamesh could have fought him in melee for those 12 hours. That's what he did against Saber. The last thing we saw was them approaching each other before fighting.

The fight is said to have taken place in that small basement from start to finish. Gilgameash can't have sword spammed in that area for 12 hours in the first place. He probably fought Cu the same way he fought Saber. Using the backsides of the weapons to block attacks and fighting in CQC.
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>1000 quartz for anniv
>grand duels made multiple bond 15 something realistic
>every upgrade quest available AND at 0 AP
>teapots and storm pods in the MP shop
Despite everything, I think this year has been the most generous the game has ever been.
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>>548608756
pure and undiluted cringe
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>>548609065
If you really think about it, every warrior, every assassin, and every other fighter of any sort from man to god to alien to incomprehensible creature is just a caster of a different name.
It's all "magic" even if it's not true magic. Sword Saints? Magic. Berserkers with otherworldly strength? Magic. Gods? Magic. Archetypes? Magic.

At the end of the day, they're all just doing different flavors of magic. No amount of skill or weight lifting will ever take you beyond normal physical limits without entering the realms of magic, even if others claim otherwise.
A sword will always remain a sword. A slash a slash. A punch a punch. If he's saying anything meaningful, it's this. Otherwise it's just him having an ego.
Without some way to warp reality and defy basic physics, you'll never get anywhere because that's not how skill or strength works. All beings are, at their core, wannabe casters.
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>>548610513
Does Cu have all the runes they stole from the nords? If not then lol.
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>>548611238
Koyanskaya could not leave at that point. She wasted too much energy ferrying Daybit to India and then fighting Ash to flee. She says verbatim
>If I have to hitch a ride to avoid getting wiped out of existence, then so be it.
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Can I burn the 'free' Servant? I don't keep males in my Chaldea.
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>>548611373
His skills are all dedicated to survival
>Protection from arrows(immune from projectiles)
>Disengage(Allows you to run from battle or restart all conditions for the battle on demand)
>Battle Continuation(Can keep fighting regardless of injury)

More than any other hero in FSN, if he chose to fight defensively he would survive a long time, according to saber.
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There's something I don't understand.
I know Goetia was able to use Solomon's NPs or whatever when he was in that form but how does that work now that Solomon legend doesn't exist since he's not in the throne
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>>548612092
NTA but that's technically incorrect isn't it? Koyanskaya could have transformed into a beast, but doing so would risk becoming like Amaterasu, and she doesn't want to do it. She's still keeping her powers under wraps. And IIRC, she does leave at the end with Pepe using IM
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>>548612167
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EOS bros
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Nasu's dream is to release his games on Switch 2 and PS5 with the same hype that Final Fantasy had back in the PS1/PS2 days
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>>548612631
Just switch fonts?
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>We never got Lancer vs Archer in the rain

False advertising
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>Talking about FSN for an hour, in FGO thread
>Back to DEEN posting
This is all some guy copypasting /a/ posts and posting them here again isn't it? That's what it always turns out to be.
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>>548611394
Goetia usually called her by her full name.
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>>548575684
Well personally, based on if they had to all be original or reused
>Saber
Grug/APEX
>Archer
Hou Yi, Herc, or Nimrod/Rama
>Lancer
Honestly I don't know, it's kind of hard to think of something that fits without going for some really stupid but easy appeal stuff like Sun Wukong. Maybe Guan Yu or something.
>Rider
Noah is perfectly fine by me I don't really care he can stay
>Assassin
First Hassan/Azrael is also pretty fine
>Caster
Solomon is also also fine
>Berserker
Warp Spasm Cu/BeoCHAD
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>>548612250
Correct. He couldn't use them anymore as the human king, he had some attacks he made up himself, and his existence wound down because he was also one of Solomon's works he returned to God.
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>>548613303
>He possesses a high-number of Skills that gameplay-wise provide various buffs to himself and debuffs to his targets. Ten of these skills are numbered First Ring up to Tenth Ring, while the remaining Skills are Sage's Wisdom and Fool's Wisdom, and finally the Skill Ten Crowns.
>while the remaining Skills are Sage's Wisdom and Fool's Wisdom
>Sage's Wisdom
Oh wait a second, doesn't the Chaldean CE say to not call him a Sage?
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>>548613183
On second thought there's also Rashid ad-Din Sinan, the Hassan who teamed up with Saladin and Richard to go beat up a Dead Apostle which I think is cool.
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Just finished Trinity Metatronius. Damn every single knight of the round is a complete bitch next to Galahad huh
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>>548612686
There's over 7000 characters in Japanese it's not like in Westerns languages where it's at most 200 or something. Changing font is not as easy as it sounds.
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>>548613630
During one of his legends he once beat every other KotR with one hit each, except Gawain who took two hits.
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>>548613630
>Damn every single knight of the round is a complete bitch next to Galahad huh
Yeah that's kind of his thing, every new character introduced to the Knights of the Round Table in Arthurian Legend is just more special and more badass than the rest, until you get to Galahad who's the world's strongest gary stu and the son of another gary stu who fucked Arthur's wife.
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>>548613630
Galahad comes off as weak to me after OC4 not gonna lie
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>>548612407
Koyan talked about refraining from turning into a Beast to fight back against Ashwatthama, since she barely won the fight after trash talking him.
Whether or not she could have become a Beast to escape India is not brought up, but she doesn't bring it up as a possibility when ruminating on escaping Mahapralaya.
>And IIRC, she does leave at the end with Pepe using IM
Yes, much much later into the story when she hasn't been injured by Ashwatthama and Doman's sutras.
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>>548612754
You're posting the entrance where Nasu wrote about several demons taking turns on him.
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>>548613927
>since she barely won the fight after trash talking him.
She got her ass beaten by him, badly
Also he was technically immortal due to a curse placed on him by Vishnu
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>>548613037
Yes, that's his whole shtick.
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>>548613449
Solomon is called a Sage and a Saint (Orthodox chuch). He's just affirming he's not him.
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>>548614017
Let's call the fight a draw since it ended with her running away after punching him in the mouth and him tailing her but getting distracted when he runs into us.
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>>548613630
Galahad is on Solomon level of course every single knight is a bitch compared to him but this also means that Mashu is as strong as Solomon I see why Nasu brought her along for the grand caster duel.
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>>548613918
All he does is help Mashu not to get fucked over and fuck offs.
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>>548613927
Gotcha.
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>>548614016
I'm posting the entrance where everything that's currently ongoing is attributed to Goetia, not Lev.
Why are you pretending otherwise?
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>>548614169
They're speaking of rank. I think it means that Roman is aware of them both being grand rank, heroic spirits. Galahad's vessel seems to be special after all.
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So when does something happen again, wasn't the 1st part supposed to start yesterday?
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>2019
>Orion becomes grand archer
>Jetfags use him at shitpost fuel against Gilgamesh and Heracles

>2025
>Gilgamesh and Heracles both picked for grands
>Jetkek has faded into the ether and Lancelot is irrelevant across all forms

Comical. It was never really a fight to begin with, but it always amuses just how hard the nail was hammered down on Melvin.
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>>548575684
>Saber
Kojiro. Honestly no saber has done anything as impressive as recreating true magic with skill. No your collab welfare unit isn't real. But since real world Kojiro and Musashi are apparently not real either lean into your fetish and make it Arturia or make it Ado Em or something.
I will also accept Kenshin (Real) (Male) or Taira no Masakado.
Also rank of "empty" to denote Slider Musashi not being the real grand is extreme cope, just don't have the position or duel then you faggots. So mad.
>Archer
Hou Yi. Honestly using a servant that was summoned during an official HGW as a Grand is very retarded in my opinion.
>Lancer
Pontius Pilate, Vlad or Odin. I don't mind Indra I guess, I would also have two cute servants with me a lot I just wish he actually used a spear. I plan to make Hector mine though, since they made him so amazing in Fate fiction. Dude should have a trillion anti-divinity NPs since he basically held up his entire side despite being abandoned by the gods and the gods all directly assisting his enemies.
>Rider
Rider is a class that shouldn't even exist, but I'd go for some form of Rat-King/Pestilence as it has metaphorically ridden humanity for all of time.
>Caster
Abe no Seimi, Zoroaster, Douman, Taigong Wang. Just don't use the characters who you explicitly killed and removed form the position in the story.
>Assassin
Skinny Azrael is fine, but I think it should've been Cain. This is the least disappointing Grand.
>Berserker
Sasmon or real Cu and not Medbs fanfiction.
>Extra
do one for each, just duplicate the page. You have seven real extra classes now to mirror the traditional seven you homos. Or if you want Ruler to special make a new class.
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>>548614379
According to Nasu, he's a different demon god emerging to speak depending on the one who addresses him. Pisslar isn't Gaytia.
Why are you pretending you know better than Nasu?
>Also posting the English translation
How are you going to detect the difference shifts in speech with that? Like he switches from kisama to omae at times.
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>>548615101
>According to Nasu, he's
That's nowhere in the game, and if it were important it'd be.
It's all attributed to Goetia and Goetia alone.
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>>548615048
>Also rank of "empty" to denote Slider Musashi not being the real grand is extreme cope, just don't have the position or duel then you faggots. So mad.
Is this true? I don't doubt you but do you have a scan? I've heard that this is only for Musashi but I've never seen the evidence
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>>548615048
>Masakado
all three of the great vengeful spirits would be kino, ESPECIALLY masakado
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>Nips on Twitter complaining that they won't be able to read and do the raids at the same time
Didn't they get the memo that the chapter will be short?
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>After Solomon's death, the 72 demon gods--sealed within Solomon's husk--had awaken their own independent idea, took away the name of Solomon (although from their point of view, they are the real Magic King Solomon), and set out on transforming the entirety of humanity to energy.
>Those 72 demon gods is a "system that efficiently advance the correct truth" created by Solomon, the progenitor of (human's) magic.
They lament at the relationship between King Solomon and the humans, rage at it, for King Solomon had continued on ignoring the "imperfectness of humanity"; and they had became the curse that act to overcome it.
>The name is Goetia, the Human Order incineration system.

I'm going to post this because this general has no fucking idea what Goetia and "Solomon" were. It wasn't something separated from the demons. They, plural, saw themselves as the "true Solomon."
When Da Vinci and Roman detect the Saint Graph in the Temple they only detect one single Saint Graph. One. Beast I. And everyone is part of that Saint Graph. Flauros said they are the temple itself, everything in this expanse is them. Trying to separate the demon gods before Ars Nova is literally fucking impossible.
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>>548615332
I do not, it was something I saw on a web page
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>>548615175
>That's nowhere in the game, and if it were important it'd be.
Ok so you don't know how Nasu works
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>>548615493
The raid are probably getting staggered until we're close to the NY anyway
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>ソロモン 人理を護る、その時代最高峰の七騎。
英霊の頂点に立つ始まりの七つ。
>Indra is the strongest poo servant
It’s over Indra is on top of the Indian era….
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>>548615534
All the foreshadowing in the game points at Chaldean being Goetia. Since we're talking about the game and not something Nasu never put inside of it why should I care?
If he reveals it's not Goetia then it's just bad writing, there's nothing in the game that allows you to make any different guess than that.
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>>548615635
WHO is on top?
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So in the end who was stronger, Solomang or Gilfag?
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>>548615752
>Indra: AIIIIIIEEEEE BRAHMA HELP ME INDRAJIT IS TOO STRONG FOR MEEEEEE
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>>548615635
>heroic spirits
Shiva is the highest indian god. Indra is probably second.
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>>548615705
The snippet you posted in london has "Solomon" switch from Kisama (Goetia's main way to address others) to omae (Flauros' main way to address others) in the ending when someone said would acknowledge them if they beat the Singularities.
Guess who came to greet them in the Temple? Was it the "control office" (what you call Goetia)? No. Goetia couldn't care less about them. Only Flauros did. And Nasu said he was the only demon god who acknowledged Chaldea.

That line that's used to mirror Chaldean situation is specifically some assigned by Flauros, also called the "first pillar demon" which makes no sense because he's not the first in Ars Goetia, is Nasu subtly wanking him.
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>>548615887
Shiva and Vishnu are stronger than Indra it’s confirmed in his own profile and in LB4.
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>>548615887
Vishnu and Shiva are both ranked higher than Indra according to Vritra, and by all accounts Vishnu worship is more prolific in Hinduism than Shiva worship.
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>>548615752
>>548615863
>Someone tag in Brahma.
>Brahma, if you can hear me, please save me. Please save me Brahma.
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>>548615779
Solomon has more narrative relevance in the context of grand order, but as a heroic spirit, doesn't have as strong of a legend. In a direct fight, Gilgamesh is probably stronger.

Rather than strength, what I think is more interesting is what they could have achieved. Every single thing that Goetia accomplished could also have been done by Solomon. In which case, he's leagues above. But Gilgamesh was also a pretty restrictive guy. Nebuchadnezzar showed that Uruk had the resources to build Babylon--a city equal to LB5's Olympus, and he couldn't even access all of Gilgamesh's treasures. If Gilgamesh put his mind to it and wanted to accomplish a feat of the same scale as Goetia through his own means and methods, could he do it?
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>>548615967
Nowhere does it say Goetia cannot address someone differently, nor that Flauros has to be the one.
And the ones to welcome Chaldea are multiple demon gods, not only Flauros.
So no, you're just singling out things that aren't singled out in the game.
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>>548615967
I think Flauros was probably the first demon god Solomon tamed in FGO. So he's special. He policed other demon gods (as he did with Raum through Sheba). He seemed to command his own legion too.
What I think is that Flauros and Goetia should have been replaced by Asmodeus.
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>>548616045
>>548616053
I agree. Got a line though? I know for sure Shiva is confirmed, but I'm very curious of Vritra's comment. Where'd she say that?
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>>548616241
They beat the singularities, but only one demon god acknowledged them. The rest, including the central office, didn't care. Nasu establishes all of them as Solomon (false) (true):
>>548615525
This is his writing and description bruh. Not mine.
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>>548616248
Why weren’t any female demon pillars? Solomon might be a fag bros…,,
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Any reason why Lev had the same voice as Flauros and Goetia? Not even Solomeme had the same voice as his demons. And neither did any of the would be vessels like Mozart or Zouken.
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>>548615493
"A paperback" doesn't mean short for nips. It means "as long as a novel".
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>>548616396
There are "female" demon gods. Astaroth is supposed to be one.
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>>548616392
>They beat the singularities, but only one demon god acknowledged them
The one who threw the challenge of acknowledgement was Goetia. Flauros showed up with 7 other Demon Gods and had to be chasen off by Jeanne.
You're not using what's in the game to make any sense of it. All signs point at Goetia.
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Olga is fine as the Grand for all the Extra Classes:
>Foreigner because ALIEN God
>Ruler because President of Earth
>Pretender because she's faking being an Ayy Lmao
>Avenger because Stellar Marie wants revenge against humanity for what they did to Specimen E
>Alter Ego because she split from Olga and then she split in another 4 versions of herself
>Moon Cancer because she's a meme
>obviously Beast
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>>548616339
Indra's event
>それでありながら、身の程を弁えずに粗暴で、我儘で、欲深い。
>ああ、ああ。その格をシヴァやヴィシュヌに奪われるのも当然でしょう。
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>>548616783
>Olga is fine
She is not a heroic spirit. That automatically makes her a bad choice.
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>>548616783
>Foreigner because ALIEN God
>Pretender because she's faking being an Ayy Lmao
Those two already contradict each other
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>>548616812
Indra sisters Shiva and Vishnu stronger than him uh how do we cope with this? But nah for real doesn’t mean Shiva ans Vishnu can be grands too lmaooo.
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>>548616748
>The one who threw the challenge of acknowledgement was Goetia.
Why didn't he acknowledge them? He ignored them. It was Flauros who repeated their feats and acknowledged them as enemies first. Nasu even agreed bro. The story does too because he's the only demon who is leading the attack and is being less of a bum on Chaldea. The rest didn't care until the Servants arrived. Goetia couldn't give a single fuck and didn't take them seriously at all.
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>>548617046
wouldn't that also include brahma too considering that all three are equals
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>>548616901
She's pretending to be an Alien from outer space but she's just an Alien to Chaldeas' Earth.
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>>548617046
Look if India's Sky god can't summon himself without destroying the sky, I'd rather not test our luck with summoning India's Time god and Space god
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>>548617127
Brahma isn’t as worshipped as Shiva and Vishnu are by the poos pretty sure even Parvati and Surya are more worshipped than Brahma. Brahma is sorta like Tsukuyomi where he’s kinda irrelevant while Amaterasu and Susanoo got all the myths.
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>他の魔神柱は機械的でしたが、レフは感情的に主人公を煽ってきました。
>人間を煽るって事は、人間に感情移入しているという事。
>なので最後まで「認めなかった&諦めなかった」のがフラウロスなら、
Seems like Nasu intended for Lev/Flauros and (you) to have a special antagonism.
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>>548617127
Technically. Brahma is in the big boy club with Shiva and Vishnu, but isn't that worshiped or relevant. After he does his role after the start of the universe, he just chills with sages and sometimes make a bad person invincible because they asked nicely.
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>>548617325
>>548617563
That is true, but at the end of the day Indra still needed someone to bail his ass out after Indrajit (formerly Meghanada) was about to kill him.
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>>548617734
he wasn't fighting "indrajit" seriously and it doesn't count anyways because meghanada was using buffs and powers from shiva so really you have to ask yourself who the real winner was here hint hint it wasn't that forest dwelling r*kshasa
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Beethoven servant when? We need more composers.
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>>548617874
>j-just holding back haha
Sometimes a man's just built different enough that he's strong enough to buck break your mythology's equivalent to Zeus. Ya gotta accept it.
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>>548617734
Indra copes in the event and says he wasn’t trying against Indrajit when Rama bring it up.
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>>548616783
Okay, where are her Shielder credentials?
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>>548617048
>Goetia couldn't give a single fuck and didn't take them seriously at all.
This is false.
Goetia didn't acknowledge the heroic spirits but he was burning with asking a question to (You).
Also how he refers to Mashu as "Mashu" like the Chaldean does... sorry but I don't see Flauros singled out anywhere.
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Any guesses on what servants and characters will show up for the finale? I doubt Nasu is that much of hack to do all the servants help again like they did in the time temple.
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>lev
>goetia
this argument has been going on for years and I can't fathom why. is it really so interesting which variant of the demon gods it is?
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>>548618571
>Literally summons Ars Paulina himself as a challenge towards Chaldea, after Tiamat bites the dust.
>"WTF?! Why are you here already?"
Gaytia wasn't as smart as daddy, that's for sure.
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>>548618571
That's the opposite. He didn't care to greet you, scold you for disturbing him, and simply asks why because he's annoyed with you. He never recognized you as enemy until later. Not when Flauros said he would: the Singularities.
That's just once, vs all the times after he addresses her as Mashu Kyrielight as Goetia. But you don't talk about that huh.
You also don't talk how Goetia got an actual conclusion and his character ended.
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>>548618834
Because the one leading the attack was Flauros. He even summoned demons to invade Chaldea. Goetia couldn't care less what they do. Flauros also saw himself in running and punishing demon gods who toed out the line (like Raum).
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>>548618745
Blame thessalia and petrikow for poisoning this fanbase to be forced to give a fuck about a stupid NPC nobody gives a fuck over.
I type "Goetia" in twitter and I get basically the rundown of all posts since the stream. I type Lev and I get Valorant shit
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>>548618605
Okay so Nasu said that the Grand Graphs were fanservice for us to choose our own Grands, and Solomon says that we've now summoned our Grands already. So I think the logical next step, per FGO norms, is to spit in the face of the first part, and decide that actually your Grand choices aren't canon and Novum Chaldea has selected their own canon roster of Grands for the final chapter.
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why did guda never summon grand caster yakub?
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Why was Nasu hyping the grand duels like it would be most surprising who got picked? All of them would be people that’s easy to guess besides Indra.
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>>548619293
Well it WAS exciting when we just had Musashi and Herc and it looked like Indra's event was setting up Grand Lancer Karna
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>>548618605
Solomon and Galahad are probably locks
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>>548619375
Galahad is done
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>>548618605
Me
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>>548618834
Read nigga. Absolutely none of them gave a fuck about Chaldea except for Flauros who even did a Singularity recap. Ars Paulina is all of them. That's why one tried to crash it on the universe itself in the ending (Gaap) so there's no indication only Goetia controls it when that random demon god could too. The only thing they required permission and concesus to use was the bands because had energy for their task.
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remember when beast V and VI/G were supposed to be a thing
yeah...
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>>548619442
uh no. beast v has NEVER been a thing. there has been 0 reference or information on it.

the latter is sakurai not caring lmao
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Jet should be Grand Caster. Fuck Gilgamesh.
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>>548619504
oh no, now i get it
who said the numbers of the beasts went from I to VII
part 3 will feature beast VIII, obviously
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>>548619442
It’s pretty funny how they extended part 2 for so long yet they couldn’t finish those plot points up lol.
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>>548618605
Olga obviously
Chaldean
Holmes
Last minute Galahad when Mashu is about to job
The Crypters and their Servants
Abby and the main rep for each Extra Class minus Beast because that's Olga
Real Solomon but as an enemy
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>>548619375
"Solomon" is a welfare.
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>>548619442
Beast V is probably for part 3 at this rate. Or if they do another EoR to lead up to part 3, though with how they've built up the time skip/leap scenario post defeating CHALDEAS it feels less likely that they'd stall.
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im expecting the 7 lostbelt kings will appear too
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>>548618605
He is on his way already.
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>So many nip tweets calling him Goetia and even fan art just appearing in my feed
https://x.com/silver_moon_M/status/1995711866715136356
https://x.com/gudaguda2122/status/1995465163009294575
https://x.com/B4Paramore/status/1995487725584367775
https://x.com/wawinosuke/status/1995436977613852783

You can really tell not a single soul gives a shit about Flauros and that it's all petrikow and thessalia lmao
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>>548620010
Tb h I started noticing that too so I’m not sure if Nips even give a shit about Lev.
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>>548620010
The nip theorists came up with Lev stuff, not the normalfags who pay no attention outside the game. It was as early as 2017 Lostroom theory.
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Who the hell is thessalia? I heard of the Petri nigga before.
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>>548620010
This only raises the likelihood for him to be Lev if the sheeple let Nasu con them. He's itching to subvert expectations.
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>>548620462
Some tumblr schizo who came up with this "theory" first and from which that roach petrikow stole it from to make it seem like he's this big loremaster. Petrikow is also the one that wanks Lev to no end and pretends he's the savior of the TM universe or whatever when nobody gives a shit.
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>>548620573
Good to know where this Lev schizos shit comes from I suppose.
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>>548620319
https://x.com/wawinosuke/status/1995474178577736077
https://x.com/dnchuu12/status/1995632100083728768
https://x.com/Merem110/status/1995749916531196276

No quite literally they don't, I put ゲーティア on latest and I'm getting a flurry of all FGO related posts.
And this is normal. There's no hint whatsoever it's anyone but Goetia in the game. If it's not then it's simply bad writing.
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>not grand berserker
Will Beowulf ever get the recognition he deserves?
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>>548619921
Lancer for class adv on Nobunaga
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I refuse to believe anyone gives enough of a shit about either Goetia or Lev as characters. I'm actually slightly annoyed this fag will tag along, I wanted them to shrink the sidekick cast, not expand it.
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So I know you need the servant you want to be your Grand needs to be level 100, and 10/10/10 so I need to go Grail someone but are there any other requirements?
Also are the items to undo your Grand hard to get? I don't have a Caster servant I'm desperate to make my Grand.
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>>548620010
The nips on my feed are more busy pointing out that reading 70% of a paperbook and then grinding out raids between the 20th and the 25th is kind of ass
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>>548620759
Nasu gonna have to write a masterpiece if it’s Lev atleast with Olga Nips cared about her and she’s waifu. That nigga Lev ugly with his leprechaun hat.
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>>548621226
They're retarded because 70% is going to be shorter than most events
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>>548610513
Heracles turns him into paste
>B-but he's Irish Herc
That just means he's such a literal who that they have to describe him as X mythology's Y so people can get an understanding where he ranks among Celts
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>>548621252
I doubt nips would care regardless, they're using what's in the game and mats to validate it's Goetia so if it's not it'll just look extremely retarded since nothing points at anyone else.
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>>548621287
Paperback means novel. I don't know why you get the impression it's going to be particularly short.
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You guys still going about that?
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>>548621532
Nash isn’t that much of hack to bring her back right?
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>>548620573
i think the reason he did that is that she was right about the animusphere things, including the texture switch. bl used to shit on animusphere theorists and push the alien god was the velber.
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>>548621117
Same. Do we need another useless smug vague infodumper?
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>>548621532
What is nothingness anyway? Do her and Ryougi have the same powers?
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>>548621532
I would lose if she started getting naked and suddenly suck my cock yeah
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>>548621117
My money is on that when the final part really begins, we get cut off from the rest of the cast and it's just You, Mashu and Goetia(?) who will be the infodump at the end as is proper for JRPGs. No need to worry about the sidekick cast being bloated up further since Goetia will make a stage-exit right after the infodump!
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>>548621391
>they're using what's in the game and mats to validate it's Goetia
The mats say Goetia lost his clairvoyance? They aren't using any mat. They are using their biases and preferences.
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>>548620010
You're not wrong but Nasu has never cared about what players want lol
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I'm more interested in the antagonists than in the allies. What's Chaldea's bloated army of asspulls even gonna fight against? Fucking Kotomine?
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>>548622267
Marisbilly is gonna summon some bullshit to fight for sure, they did mention we'll need the Grands in the finale.
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Retards think it's not Medea
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What happened to the Priestess
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>>548622347
The big bad is Chaldeas forma de Olga
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>>548622221
I disagree with that, he quite blatantly cares.
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In all this fucking general. In multiple threads. Nobody told me Grand Caster duel has a lotto.
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>>548622437
Is that why we had nonstop Sion CEs for years? Because she's the most popular character. And why didn't Camazotz get a Profile despite being Beast?
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>>548622448
We don't even know what the lotto will give
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Here is your final boss:
https://youtu.be/KTe92JhvASc?t=186
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>>548622591
Camazotz was a flop tho
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>>548622659
>AI slop
Done. Next
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reminder that Liz won bigly
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>>548622635
I read the OP by coincidence and noticed that, but nobody was talking about it. Fuck this general.
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>>548622734
>calling Camazotz a flop while pretending Goetia isn't
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>>548623003
I never said anything about Goetia?
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Levschizo really lives in an obsession against Goetia for god knows what reason
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Nasu hasn't confirmed anything yet. So both sides need to calm down.
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>>548622371
More like Mid-ea because she's mid amirite
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>>548621532
I'm so fucking glad this bitch is dead. I think this Musashi is the worst Musashi I've ever seen in fiction
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Did they actually say no new gacha servants this month?
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>the priest is still alive
Here is your final boss.
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>>548623902
Yes
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>>548623902
Nothing until new years where the entire new years stream will be about FGO.
Also the finale drops on a Saturday, so
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retards always ask why they timegate things, THIS is why they timegate things so people come back to the game and talk about shit constantly to draw even more eyes to it
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>>548624097
Considering it goes until the 23th the actual finale is on a tuesday
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>>548624248
The raids themselves are probably gated so longer than that. 100% expect the finale to tie into the NYs
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>>548622917
There's nothing to talk about
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>>548624003
Kirei overtaking Marisbury and being the final villain with a superpowered Angra Mainyu is the only way this ending would satisfy me.
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>>548624587
>Clapshit finale
No thanks, there's nothing worse than FSNshit taking over.
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>>548624697
has nothing to do with clapshit. it's about buildup.
unlike marisbury who has been an unknowable entity with no connection to anyone, Priest has been there from the start of P2 and clearly has his own goals. Marisbury has just been too hands off to be satisfying as the final enemy. He's bound to be Twice 2.0
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>>548625013
Priest worked in FSN because he was an antithesis to Shirou and played off of him. And even then only really in HF. In Fate he was basically dropped in out of nowhere as the final boss with little fanfare and goes down by getting shanked once. He doesn't really have that chemistry with Guda.
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>>548576147
Heracles is his son, so it makes sense they look similar.
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>>548615048
>Kojiro
Tsubame Gaeshi is a shittier Nine Lives. Nasu just wanks it with a more flowery prose because a Niptard "accomplished" it
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>>548625430
Yeah, that's why Kirei sucks in most routes in FSN. FGO is ironically better because he has a consistent presence where he can be enemy or ally depending on whatever goals he has in the lostbelt. He's also done proper foreshadowing for EoS in Valentine's. Honestly, it's more that out of the remaining candidates, that I favor him most. It's going to be Marisbury but I have no hope for that guy. God forbid it's Sion.
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>>548625748
Nine Lives isn't actually Operation of Parallel Universes which Tsubame Gaeshi is.
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>>548625748
No. TG is an instantaneous 3 strike at all points in time. Nine Lives is a hyperspeed sequence of attacks. You have completely missed the point.
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>>548625946
>Simultaneous 3 strikes
>vs simultaneous 100 strikes
Sure anon
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>>548625854
>foreshadowing for EoS
Of course a FSNfag is this delusional
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>>548626042
Nine Lives is not simultaneous.
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>>548626132
Tell that to the Hydra
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*Beats anyone not a designated sparrow killer
Nice retarded powerlevel argument you were having anons
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>>548626152
No. Tell that to Shirou
>What Shirou used was the anti-personnel version of Shooting of a Hundred Heads. Honestly, just think of it as nine consecutive high-speed attacks.
Nine Lives is a sequence of fast attacks. You're talking about the anti-phantasmal version that aren't even slashes. They're homing arrows fired at once.
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>actually the Grand Saber should be a guy who was killed by THIS
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>>548626286
>Shirou
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>>548626286
>Shirou
lmao
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>>548575464
I don't play this game I was just browsing the catalog, who is this cute boy
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>>548626609
that's the nature of the attack, not the individual.
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>>548575684
Saber: Musashi (Male) or Artoria
Archer: Orion
Lancer: Guan Yu
Rider: Noah is fine
Caster: Solomon is fine. Would've liked Seimei to even appear in fgo.
Berserker: Beowulf or Wukong
Assassin: First Hassan
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>Chaldean: Figure it out, Guda, you chimp.
>Chaldean with Trashu: I'm sorry. I'm not your Roman, Mash...
What is with this shift in tone? Fuck this mary sue eggplant.
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This years santa if FGO were a good game
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>>548624003
>>548624587
>>548624697
>>548625013
>>548625430
>DUDE REMEMBER FSN

What went wrong here
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>>548626914
It's some retard who's trying to divert discussion towards FSNshit all thread, it's so noticeable
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News Doko?
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>>548626914
Nothing at all, but I'd be wasting my breath trying to explain to someone only interested in bad faith arguments and tribalism bullshit.
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>>548626970
You're brown as shit
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>>548626839
Nah, if it were actually a good game, we would've have this by now.
After all, if we can get two Liz's in the same year, why not one more Nero?
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>>548627147
huh, we never got rider nero in the end, did we?
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>>548627071
Yes bro because we've waited 10 years just to see the same shit of FSN retreated for the 10000th time except it never was good and it never will be good.
I can say with utter certainty that people would prefer Sion becoming the villain than anything remotely related to FSN.
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>>548627147
Thats not Draco in Santa Jeannes microbikini
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>>548627204
Speak for yourself. Fuck Sion.
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>>548626962

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6GhzegwMpE
New CM
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>open game
>CM
>no actual content
What the fuck are they doing
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>>548627204
Is Billy going to be any different though? He's already been set up as a yet ANOTHER
>Extremist fucking up the status quo for the sake of humanity
antagonist that's been propping up since the beginning. Nasu is someone who can't grow out of his own conventions. Everything he does is a retread of something else.
>>548627329
Sugita confirmed. RIP Suzukenbros.
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>>548627456
>Sugita confirmed. RIP Suzukenbros.
Did you miss the part where Solomon erased himself
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isn't the next part of the prologue today??
or is it just the CM??
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Honest thoughts on Kotomine Kirei?
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>>548627651
Read the news touristbro
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>>548627651
no content today
sasuga fate dragged-out order.
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>>548627689
Wild how much hes been whitewashed from the orphan murderer.
Then again look at Gil
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>>548627689
Perfect cool villain. Makima tier.
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>>548627689
He's my husband and I would let him kill me
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>>548627892
Really? I dunno about that. I think Nasu would need to have made him less incompetent and more prominent for him to be Makima-level. I get the comparison though
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>>548626783
Honestly the lack of ROT3K is criminal given FGO has been going on for a literal decade
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>>548627745
>Wild how much hes been whitewashed from the orphan murderer.

QRD?
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I hope final battle background looks as good as the Time Temple.
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Fate peaked with UBW
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>>548627689
I think he had pretty unique motivation in FSN. Outside of that he was an actual danger for any master, could challenge their beliefs, didn't overstay his welcome and didn't abuse any annoying anime tropes like chestmaster villain and la crazy faces.
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>>548628030
Theres not much to tell
Kirei went from being almost comically evil to that goofy yorokobe guy.
Same as Gil.

I kind of never want Shinji to get added because they will probably tone him down too despite that being his charm
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You guys think we gonna see anyone sacrifice themselves like Solomon did in part 2 final?
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>>548627329
>there are STILL retards saying it isn't goetia
>after that grin and the close up on demon pillars
Jesus H christ
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>>548628468
Yea
Guda
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>>548628346
This happens to literally every character Nasu has ever written, they get defanged and demoted to comic relief characters
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>>548628494
even kiara...
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>>548628494
Or he just never write about them again like the lb7 flop
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>>548628483
You DON'T get it! It's Flauros controlling Goetia who's inhabiting Romani's body!
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What if Kohaku gets summoned?
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>>548629138
God I hate the Kenshin we got. She doesn't look like she would exist in the same reality as the Shingen we got, but also just very generic and boring
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>>548628468
Chaldean.
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>>548628483
You're trying to prove shit with shark grins that Lev had?
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>>548627569
He erased himself and Goetia.
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>>548628179
only if you're a brown from SEA
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>That Lev had
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>>548628346
Shinji already got toned down thanks to HA.
>>548628494
It doesn't even need to be an antagonist for it to happen.
Saber, Nero and Tamamo had their negative traits pretty much scrubbed clean since their debut games.
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>>548626914
Some guys never grow up like >>548628179
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>>548629854
Thanks for posting the real Goetia. Guy with hair wings and red eyes.
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>>548629506
Fuck off, we like GUDAGUDA here
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>>548630105
How fast do you jump into a new nonsensical argument. Did you forget? That body disappeared when Solomon zapped himself, Goetia took its remnants and is now doing actions in the name of Romani not himself so it makes complete sense he looks like Solomon now.
When or where would have Lev had access to any of this when he dies before Goetia even becomes KoH?
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>>548629854
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/138136077
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>>548630257
Each and all your irrelevant Goetia's arguments make sense for Flauros. "Ohh he has shark teeth!" "Ohhh he's voiced by Sugita?!?" But guess what? Nasu still hasn't said who he was. Why would he wait to spill it if "he's obviously Goetia as the mind-numbing sheeps think?"
Why do you think Nasu is still gatekeeping his name?
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>>548630148
I like GUDAGUDA and Nobu specifically a LOT more than I probably should. However I think the Kenshin we got is really dogshit. I think the only thing I like the really long "sword" that Ruler Kenshin has in her first sprite even if I think the choice of Ruler class for her is bad and I like the summoning of Taroutachi in her NP and the cross effect as viewed from below at the end of the animation.
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>>548630509
>Anime
Oof, really scraping the bottom of the barrel for that one.

>>548630656
>Each and all your irrelevant Goetia's arguments make sense for Flauros
When your entire mind on it is that every Goetia action belongs to Flauros what else is new? You won't even acknowledge the fact Goetia is an entity unless it's to argue because you want to be right while neglecting the points that don't make sense in your logic.
>Why would he wait to spill it
He probably won't even spill it considering the CE. But the crowd has already made their decision so
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>>548630813
>Oof, really scraping the bottom of the barrel for that one.
Did you literally not play FGO?
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It's like I'm watching a pair of old women arguing over what flavour of pink they want painted on the wall.
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What were the lows of FGO's 10 year run?
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>>548626808
I mean he is Gaytia in some form. He was always nicer to her, since initially he took pity on her because of her limited lifespan.
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Does it really matter if it’s Goetia or Lev?
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>>548630943
The whole point is that you could've just posted it from the game and see Lev is just using the same teeth Goetia does.
Except Goetia is the only one who turns into Solomon at any point into this game and Lev never does, once.
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>>548631053
Everything past lb7
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>>548631116
Everyone wants it to be Goetia, or is indifferent, except a tumblerina and a schizo russian obsessed with hating FGO moderating a dead forum
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>>548631053
2019 was the beginning of everything bad with the game.
The first true shattering of FGO was the period after Olympus up to LB6, which took a full year. The second shattering was immediately after LB6 with the road to LB7 bullshit.
The final was OCs.

These periods caused the downfall of the game.
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>>548630813
>When your entire mind on it is that every Goetia action belongs to Flauros what else is new?
Certainly not. Death belongs to Goetia, because he is Solomon's work returned to God. The works that Ars Nova targeted? The spell called Goetia. While the individual pillars aren't affected at all by that.
>You won't even acknowledge the fact Goetia is an entity unless it's to argue because you want to be right while neglecting the points that don't make sense in your logic.
Because he's irrelevant to part 2. Chaldean officially appears in Lostroom. We now know he retrieved that ring. Lostroom is a story that introduced the Priestess too, whose identity isn't yet revealed. Which characters Nasu chose to make the protagonists of that work? The ones he assigned as that in his explanation: Olga, Guda, and Lev. Do you see Goetia listed anywhere?
>He probably won't even spill it considering the CE. But the crowd has already made their decision so
He'll definitely do with a flashback before he kills himself to shut down Chaldeas. And you're terrified of that moment, right? Because you know that there's only one reason why he's waiting for his death to drop his identity.
Nasu didn't write new scenes for Goetia in Solomon movie script. He let his fights to Clockworks. He did write a new one for Flauros, showing who Nasu feels a preference for. I'm sorry his tastes don't align with yours.
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>>548631116
Atp I want it to be Goetia out of spite I just hate schizos
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>>548631053
I knew something went wrong when we got 3 Lostbelt in one year to barely getting one Lostbelt in one year lol.
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>>548631234
The point is that Flauros makes shark teeth all the time when 'excited.' We've also seen "possessed" Romani by Goetia in the game. And he has red eyes, bro. It's kind of weird how this guy looks completely unlike that.
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It's honestly kind of tragically comedic, because every single time anyone wants to change history whether it be Artoria, Emiya, Mordred, and all the other protagonists and antagonists from other works, they always fail or come to some kind of dumb "realization". It's like fate worms into all their heads and steers them away from their initial goals. I get the feeling that all users of Clairvoyance actually know this, which is why none of them have ever been afraid or actually ever tried to change fate, because they couldn't or knew what would happen if they tried to do that. Best example of that being the case is that Merlin always knew from the very beginning that Camelot would fall and he never even tried to change anything to prevent it. If this was some other franchise, the author would have a protagonist become the defiance concept itself to counteract fate and free everyone from its shackles.
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>>548631595
Goetia does too...? It's like Goetia trademark more than anything
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>>548631116
Both are lame. Marisbilly mindfucking the retards of Chaldea would have been cooler.
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>>548631576
>>548631404
It's clear Solomon was the intended ending

Lostbelts were mostly slop
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>>548631472
>Goetia is just the part where I can say he's dead to deny he's Chaldean
Except Beasts don't die. And last I recall he never stopped being one.
>Because he's irrelevant to part 2
Wait let me translate it
>He's not in my schizo theories based on dated out of the game material that OC4 already overwrote as meaningless since Galahad personality did a 180 and what he said never came to pass
And I'll answer your questions with a better question. When has Lev ever mattered in this game? He was brought back as a filler to OC1 and he just died off screen and was completely forgettable.
That's what you're hyping up?
>And you're terrified of that moment, right?
I couldn't care less, my life doesn't depend on meaningless argument like your past 8 years do. Last time you and your group of retards got the Sefar shit wrong it was funny as fuck so seeing it again would be more entertaining than anything concerning the Chaldean.
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>>548631709
Marisbilly making a fake LB Solomon would be kino.
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>>548631704
Goetia's trademark are the wing hair and black ichor red-black eyes. All demon gods have the shark teeth. Himself included. Your pic related posted shows he's looking pretty different.
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Flauros would be such a nasty carpet pull for people who only play the game.
There is no in-game reason to think that he is anything more than an asshole whose evil plans got foiled, at least Goetia got some sympathy points near the end
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>>548631595
>The point is that Flauros makes shark teeth all the time when 'excited.'
Since you love the anime so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1O4ZxjKZJE
Rewatch the CM after you see the frame I posted alongside this post.
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>>548631884
>Goetia's trademark are the wing hair and black ichor red-black eyes.
It's his face tattoos, not even the same anon btw
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>>548631756
Lostbelts were planned since the beginning you idiot, they just got expanded after the game was way more successful than they expected
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>>548631884
>Goetia's trademark are the wing hair and black ichor red-black eyes.
Clearly Fake Solomon is meant to be a more mellow out Goetia
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Padoru
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>>548631796
>Except Beasts don't die.
Camazotz?
All demon gods were Beast I, and they did die. Dying was the point Goetia had to learn. Did you conveniently forget his conclusion and climax?
>Wait let me translate it
Show me where he appears after the Temple. Unambiguously.
>When has Lev ever mattered in this game?
The story of FGO happens or not because of Lev's choice: Nasu's word. NASU made Lev the most central character of FGO.
Goetia? He's just a midboss.
>I couldn't care less,
Let me translate that
>I pretend that the sheepling concensus before Nasu even revealed and exposed his identity matter more because I know Nasu's preferences
Fuyuki II is incoming. Fuyuki the story is famously connected to "Goetia"-Wait...
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Komachifag has been really quiet ever since the grand caster revealed it like he switched into another posting style lol
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>>548631884
Goetia trademark are:
>The lines
Which Chaldeanmon has
>The tattoos
Which Chaldeanmon has
>Soft spot for Mashu
Which Chaldeanmon has
>Treating (You) as a rival even if he's trying to atone
Which Chaldeanmon would do and which is what Goetia did at the end of Solomon, a futile attempt in trying to kill (You) even if it was irrelevant
>Respect for Solomon/Romani and trying to bring him back/show he's an example of a good human
Literally the core of the dialogue between him and Romani in Solomon

The only reason you think it's Lev is due to some out of the game materials lol
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>>548632030
His facial tattos are very different. Missing beads too.
>>548632170
Or maybe he looks different because instead of 72 demon gods possessing a body, there's just 1. I think you forget Goetia is just a spell uniting the 72 demon gods. He's not a real being.
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>>548632405
>His facial tattos are very different
Not really
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>>548632405
>Or maybe he looks different because instead of 72 demon gods possessing a body, there's just 1.
No, I think my logic is way more solid it's just a more chill Goetia, considering Demon pillars are jobbers on their own.
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>>548632317
I noticed he suddenly disappeared too. Maybe he's currently banned lol
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>>548632478
The skintone they had in Solomon was different. He has warmer color now.
Also address this:
>I think you forget Goetia is just a spell uniting the 72 demon gods. He's not a real being.
Goetia alone cannot possess anyone because he was just a spell that fused the 72 demon gods. The 72 demon gods were the ones possessing Solomon. Goetia acted through that, but he cannot really exist on his own. Even in the end, he crumbles alone because Solomon unmade his work, and his work is Goetia. The 72 demon gods fusion.
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>entire nip community referring to him as Goetia
Since nips love theorizing over anything and there's no discussion regarding Usolomon's identity it's pretty clear is Goechan, case closed.
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>>548632276
>Camazotz?
Not a crowned Beast. Camazotz was noted to be gifted with immortality which a crowned Beast wouldn't be needed to be gifted with.
>All demon gods were Beast I, and they did die
After leaving Goetia, Goetia is the Beast entity. They can't become a Beast on their lonesome.
>Show me where he appears after the Temple
This is a stupid question because if I consider he's Chaldean where else would he appear in the game? They mention Goetia over and over across part 2, the other Beasts do, Draco makes an entire game after his feats and we get Kirschtaria even mention Goetia actual reasoning behind the Incineration.
>The story of FGO happens or not because of Lev's choice: Nasu's word
No. Nasu just says his death would prevent Goetia's plan. FGO would still happen, because Moneybillis plan would still happen.
And FYI, your favorite meatsack Lev confirms that if (You) weren't there Romani would've died which would've made it impossible for FGO to happen. So once again, he's just a tiny forgettable wheel that did something anyone could've done. A plot device.
>Fuyuki II is incoming. Fuyuki the story is famously connected to "Goetia"
>He thinks Fuyuki is going to be relevant to anything related to Lev when Kirei and Moneybillis are involved
You're highly delusional. There's a reason this Prologue is skippable.
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>>548632632
Goetia doesn't exist. That's the point. You are mistaking him for an entity when he was a spell that Solomon unmade, and his purpose was to unite the demon gods. The demon gods are not living beings either, they were made from ether but precede even Solomon.
The traits of "possessed" Solomon are like that because they are the demon gods in his body. Not "Goetia." Goetia is a spell.
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>>548632756
>The skintone they had in Solomon was different. He has warmer color now.
not beating the schizo allegations
>>548632756
>>548632910
the game threats him as an individual just like how NR is also treated as an individual you just don't want to acknowledge it
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>>548632814
I guess Koyan was Tamamovitch of the Tamamo Nine all along. Case closed.
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>His facial tattos are very different
Too much vodka or you're genuinely trolling
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>>548633003
Unironically yes until nasu reconnected otherwise no idea how she had access to Tamamo's Heian's affairs gossip network .
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Raids after 9 months of raids and just after a raid+lotto is such a retarded move.
Whales don't need that much QP if you don't release more servants.
The only ones that may need it are normalfags that are just catching up and that won't have the time to grind either anyway.
I at least hope that this grand lotto has finally 5* exp so that I can level up my Grand Caster to 120 while I run it.
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>>548633085
>Different person btw according to commies
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>Now Goetia doesn't exist
I don't get what bro's even trying to argue for anymore. First it was Goetia vs Lev, then actually all actions are Flauros through Goetia and now Goetia doesn't exist.
What the fuck even is this logic you retard? He literally possessed a body to come back and take a hint whom it was when it's not even subtle.
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>>548632856
>Not a crowned Beast.
Says who?
>After leaving Goetia, Goetia is the Beast entity.
After the last demon god cut off, Goetia lost his Beast Saint graph completely. This never happened to any Beast we fought. Who were defeated as Beasts so they could return.
Goetia lost his beast Saint Graph, and died. The entire point of his characterization was to actually die.
>This is a stupid question
Is it when Nasu pumps side material for characters like Lev, Olga or Broman (even Solomon gets lore drips in Tsukihime mats) but absolutely doesn't bother with Goetia?
Why would Takeuchi refuse to talk about Chaldean Person's design notes if "Mystery solved! Goetia!" Was it just an easy reveal? You don't get a lore reason to be secretive of a guy who apparently, according to you, isn't mysterious at all. Doesn't look like the artist and the writer agree with your take.
>There's a reason this Prologue is skippable.
Did you read that he was going to join in the finale even if you skip the prologue? His entire role and mystery is for the Finale.
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What is our local BL poster going to do when tomorrow Solomon's attack involve using the demon pillars?
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>>548633085
Right more pronounced undereye eyeliner.
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>>548633512
Okay you're trolling
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>>548633161
He mentioned the Chungus shit in Russia, and her weight is exactly as the meteor in China.
No, she was always the rabbit thing. He was literally fucking around with a redherring until he dropped it.
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>>548633614
LB4 came before Chunguska
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>>548633461
The first thing Flauros does in the Temple is dispatch pillars to attack Chaldea because Goetia was a bum who refused to learn to use a calculator. Flauros was unironically called "The first" Demon God pillar, so he seems to have some seniority and control.
Also filler demon gods appear in millions of events. They aren't special. You can thank Kiara for that.
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>>548616812
That lines pretty much confirm that Indra is the strongest Vedic god before Hindu take over, what's interesting about Indra is throughout three religion (Vedic, Hindu and Buddhist) he still retain his real name and his position as King of Gods never changes, maybe that's why he have King of the Gods skill at EX rank. In Vedic he is unmatched, in Hindu his position as King of Gods is challenged countless times because the Asuras and Raksashas see his position as the pinnacle of the world, in Buddhism he became the protector of Buddha and manifestation of all of Buddha's power (hence why in Fate all of Buddha and Bodhisattva have Vajra)

>>548618020
To which Rama agrees to Indra because at the end of the day Indrajit died to the bow and arrow of Indra.
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>>548633734
>it's a single pillar
>no it's actually multiple pillars
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What happened with Grand Caster Holmes?
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Watch it be a fusion of Goetia/Lev or it’s gonna be Koyan dogshit plot twist.
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>>548633642
LB1 and LB3 came before LB4 and that pointed at the fucking chungus shit. He just used Tamamovitch as a redherring until he addressed her backstory.
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>>548633734
Weren't you saying that it was just Flauros that's why he doesn't have the eye-beads?
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>>548633734
>attributing Goetia stuff to Lev again
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>>548633395
>Says who?
The game, and the lore.
He's not named Beast I, but "Lost". With the I being noticeably shattered. No horns either.
The lore says all beings who qualify as Beasts in the Lostbelts have to exit them to be granted the seat. LB6 said as much when Barghest tried to escape. Also Oberon was planned to be a Beast, but of "Fae History" since even in drafts Nasu made the distinction already.
>After the last demon god cut off, Goetia lost his Beast Saint graph completely. This never happened to any Beast we fought.
Yeah it did, Kama, Draco and Fou all lost their crown and died after. They still came back because once you earn a crown you don't lose it until you're usurped ( Arcade event ).
Nobody usurped Goetia.
>Is it when Nasu pumps side material for characters
Nobody cares about side material when discussing the game. It has no bearing on it unless it's directly shown during it. You can go ahead and show me how the OCs weren't teased at all in side material and I wouldn't give a fuck because they were in the game.
>Did you read that he was going to join in the finale even if you skip the prologue? His entire role and mystery is for the Finale.
Kind of stupid to proclaim this before tomorrow, but if you were smart I guess you wouldn't even be arguing over something you can't prove.
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>>548633792
Lev is weird because he has 2 more personalities named after two other random pillars which was unexplained so far. Uvall and Gusion.
Flauros is a command center: the information one, so he can indeed command multile demon gods. He's also called the "first demon god" in Solomon. So Nasu made him extra special. We never know why. Maybe he was the first one Solomon tamed.
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>>548633734
See? Everytime Goetia is attributed something you just come up and single out Flauros and attribute Goetia stuff to him.
Is that how you argue in Beast's Lair? Just one voice ( a mod ) and everyone buys this shit?
Because I'm starting to wonder that's how you retards even came up with Velber as a possibility for the Alien God lol
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>>548633801
Idk why people were expecting Holmes he’s a Sakurai character. Grand caster was always gonna be Solomon or Merlin.
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>>548633810
Koyan dogshit plot twist would be hilarious.
I don't have issues with Goetia/Flauros either. What they don't get is that Goetia isn't a demon and those traits Solomon gained because he was possessed by 72 demons. Goetia was a spell that kept those 72 demons united. Without a single one of them, the spell (Goetia) falls apart.
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>>548634016
Read the temple. Goetia didn't give a shit and was Flauros who was "come brethreeen atttack!!!!"

>>548633914
See:
>>548634186
The 72 demon Gods is why Solomon looks...demonic. Goetia is a spell that tied them together. They call him not goetia but "control office." Or "protocol."
When the last demon fuck offs and disconnects, Goetia starts to die.
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>>548634065
Barbie was the command center, Flauros is just the information hub.
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>>548634394
Main Control office is Goetia.
All the Singularity demon gods had multiple demon gods serving them. But the one who was calling the shots against Chaldea was Flauros. He took the initiative to attack and summoned other pillars to invade them. The rest of the main demon gods, including Goetia didn't care. The arrival of Servants got them involved aside of Goetia who couldn't get bothered. Bael whined about it.
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>>548634360
You didn't answer my question
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>>548634734
You claimed that he was the command center of the pillars and he isn't he isn't show to have any main control or summoning powers other than saying alright boys let's get them on the goddamn throne
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>>548634974
>he isn't
He is literally commanding multiple demon gods who are part of the information center. He is. He is even called "first demon god" when he disconnects from Goetia. He is the one who engineered a system to punish demon gods like Raum who would stray into hereticism. Zepar didn't have such authority but Flauros did. We just don't know what makes Flauros unique because we know he was a snowflake who even decides to fuck off the other 71 if he feels like.
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>>548635129
Show me the materials saying that he can command the other pillars all he did was lead the charge
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>>548634832
Yes, I think the reason why he looks different is that he no longer has 72 demon gods but only one.
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>>548635318
So if it's just one how will he inevitably use the spells tomorrow since he isn't a magic formula
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>>548635212
It's called Time Temple? He's siccing them on Chaldea in the very first scene. >>548619425
Anon posted it.
Also in the Time temple shows the filler pillar names that belong to every 'center'. Information one is led by Flauros.
You're also ignoring the title he got: First Demon God. Not other pillar got this distinction.
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>>548635496
Again i'm telling you to show me the materials that state that he can command the demons
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>>548635371
Goetia couldn't use Ars Paulina anymore because Ars Paulina is from Solomon and the demon gods, and here...Ars Paulina is back functioning again.
Flauros described Ars Paulina as a space they created: "It's US."
Goetia (blondie) couldn't do the temple when the demons fucked off. So already is a point minus for him. At least not without a demon.
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>>548635634
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>>548635580
>doesn't want to read the actual chapter that shows it and has him commanding demons
And it also shows a single demon god controlling Ars Paulina by the way. The temple isn't under Goetia's control.
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>>548634734
>But the one who was calling the shots against Chaldea was Flauros
No. They all were.
Goetia told them to attack Chaldea while he worked on the spell and then Baal came to say they were jobbing and to allow them to use a NP but Goetia said no.
Flauros had no control, especially if they had to ask Goetia for permission on shit.
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I think it's one person replying to himself again and again
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>>548634032
>Yeah it did, Kama, Draco and Fou all lost their crown and died after.
They were still Beast in their last battle just weaker. Goetia wasn't.
>Nobody usurped Goetia.
He lost the throne because he exited it. Like Fou.
>Kind of stupid to proclaim this before tomorrow,
I really doubt anything happens there when you can skip it.
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>>548635742
>The temple isn't under Goetia's control.
It's literally Solomon's reality Marble and was under Goetia's control until Solomon used Ars Nova to nuke all of it and leave just the ruins
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>>548635747
>Goetia told them to attack Chaldea
Proof? Goetia couldn't care less about Chaldea and was pointingly ignoring them. He ignored them during the Servant infestation too. That's how irrelevant Chaldea was.
The one who did attack them and wanted to settle this was Flauros.
>Flauros had no control, especially if they had to ask Goetia for permission on shit.
Gaap literally nearly crashes the temple down. Nobody needs to ask Goetia permission for ANYTHING. They asked permission for the bands of light because the energys aved there was precious. But the Time temple reality marble is a creation of ALL the demon gods not Goetia. in fact, it stops existing without the demon gods.
You really think the singular demon god who can disobey the hive in all timelines needs to ask permission to act?
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>>548636113
The reality marble is the demon gods themselves. Flauros said so.
And Gaap controlled it too, and that's a random pillar demon. GOETIA couldn't control it at all after ars nova if he ever did.
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What I love is how he keeps changing the definition of what Goetia to fit his agenda
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>>548636141
>Proof?
>Demon God Bael O king. My king. Our temple is being invaded.
>Demon God Bael Was the Master of Chaldea not the only target? What is this situation? What is this chaos?

>Solomon Even if you incinerate those Heroic Spirits, as long as “that” exists, they will endlessly reappear.
>Solomon You only need to kill the one.
>Solomon Servants are but familiars summoned by humans. That flaw cannot be changed by sheer numbers.
>Solomon Let them fight until they are satisfied. This is their final battle, after all.
>Solomon Annoying though it may be, go and attend to the fools.
Before you reach the throne this dialogue makes it clear Goetia told them to kill (You) and then does it again.

>Gaap literally nearly crashes the temple down. Nobody needs to ask Goetia permission for ANYTHING
After Solomon did his thing.
>Nobody needs to ask Goetia permission for ANYTHING

>Demon God Bael The work of the king must be done in silence. However, we cannot hold back the Heroic Spirits.
>Demon God Bael My king. Allow us the use of the Third Noble Phantasm.
>Demon God Bael We should incinerate those Heroic Spirits with Ars Almadel Salomonis's bands of light.
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Goetia lost all the solomon related powers after Ars Nova. He shouldn't be able to do the Reality Marble or even have clarivoyance. How are Goetiafags explaining this without resorting to bad writing?
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>>548635742
>>548636245
>Goetia also possessed his own version of the Noble Phantasm. It compiles the human history converted into magic energy, a governed space. It exists in the imaginary space separated from the normal flow of time. Goetia himself remains within this Temple, grinning and laughing as he assures each and every era being extinguished. It is a Reality Marble that Goetia fabricated by amplifying the remains of King Solomon from Goetia's mats
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>>548636407
Araya gg
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>>548636407
Goetia took Solomon body when he reappeared + a ring. That should be enough for him to act as a pretense of Solomon like the name implies.
Servants did this before.
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>>548636390
That only shows
>Goetia doesn't care
>only ask permission to use the saved up energy
What I said?
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>>548636407
Same way we are summoning Servants from LBs we recorded them so somehow it was recorded somewhere, also the ring.
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>>548636541
Solomon sparkled into nothingness in the Temple. And Solomon body should be affected by Ars Nova too.
If you think hard Lev truthers figured it out ages ago.
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>>548636407
KH gained his grand status lost it, then gained again and now he's on his twink form as a Grand Assassin again, Goetia, or whoever that is, having access to Solomon's powers is the least of the problems with nasu's writing right now
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>>548636651
He's not a Servant, he even said so.
The ring he grabbed when having a body. When did that happen? What was the name of that work where Lev Flauros not only the protagonist with Olga, but his reasoning is presented as a mystery to be solved by Nasu in the beginning of part 2.
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>>548636587
It shows Goetia told them to kill (You) and it shows Goetia being asked for permission over something by all of them since Baal uses "us".
Exactly what you've been denying.
And Goetia DOES care
>Solomon ...Humph. I do understand your frustration. I too feel ready to lose control from anger.
He's just giving priority to, you know, complete his goal
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>>548636789
>KH gained his grand status lost it, then gained again and now he's on his twink form as a Grand Assassin again,
None of this happens in the actual canon. Arcade is a parallel world.
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>>548636795
He isn't a servant just like the gods we summon aren't servants
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>>548636685
>Solomon sparkled into nothingness in the Temple. And Solomon body
KoH Goetia has the 10 rings. He has Solomon tattoos. He has even his Sage passive.
Unless you're coping hard that somehow he created a new body, went back, took the ring, returned to the gate and then fought (You) half dead yours is a massive reach.
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>>548636907
>year 2025
>still not understanding how the kaleidoscope works
Also Draco
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>>548636926
The gods aren't described a he is. You're still missing the point. He's nothing. He'll need a Solomon who never experienced Ars Nova for him (or anyone possessing that body- because all the 72 demon gods did) to do that.
Now think hard. Where did Chaldean first appeared.
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I want Boys Love to leave
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>>548637060
>He'll need a Solomon who never experienced Ars Nova for him (or anyone possessing that body- because all the 72 demon gods did) to do that.
cute HC
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>>548637035
KH was still ungranded that's why Tezca took his place. All after Arcade.
The duels aren't canon. Chaldean says they can select Grands as the "only left of humanity." not a single mention of trials and duels. in fact, his method to accept being YOUR Grand Caster is a duel which he makes seem is unique.
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>>548636907
>>548637187
>doesn't count
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>>548636907
KH lost his grand status because of the mobile TL, the different TL affect one another go play Extella
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>>548637187
>Nemo and indra events aren't canon, both with Nasu's seal of shilling and explicitly talking about their status as grands in the events btw
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Hektor would one shot Tiamat desu
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>>548637187
Tiamat and Draco both mention the events of the final singularity of Arcade in the collab
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>>548637579
The poo isn't even a Nasu character
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Anything that involves a Beast is hard canon so going into what's canon or not to support your stupid HEADcanon makes no sense, petrikow
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Anon is saying that the body comes from Lostroom, which is heavily foreshadowed to be connected with Chaldeas' simulation, what if that turns real parade because Olga is experiencing 'dreams' (simulations) of what if versions of the story she wasn't murked in Fuyuki.
The meeting where Lev, Olga, Roman are talking with Galahad around as Mashu takes place in 2017, after FGO part 1. It's a 'dream' yet is very much likely a space between Chaldeas and Earth, like Area 51 that's why Guda gets swept into Chaldeas.
Chaldeas is a deus ex machina that can create a Roman or Solomon post Temple who never experienced Ars Nova if they want to. Any opportunistic force can simply borrow that. That may explain why that Roman has scars and different clothes. We just don't know, but Lostroom is part of the mystery boxes and is all related to Chaldeas. The name "Lost"room even looks linked to "Lost"belt. We know the room is a Singularity as the Moonlight Room, but it may be a super lostbelt generator too.
This could explain things about how Chaldean has clarivoyance and can do a version of the Temple without an issue, and how Roman pops up in OC4 when "Roman" calls him.
The negative side for Goetiafags is that Lev was prominent in Lostroom. So he could be the Sugitamon who rides that.
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>>548637706
We all though Musashi's was Sakurai character because she debuted on her EoR but she's Nasu's.
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>>548637852
The poo still isn't a Nasu's character, he's Minase's like every poo we have gotten past Arjuna
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>>548637815
Goetia stopped being a Beast when the demon gods deserted him. Show me a fight with a beast where they have a normal saint graph. Even the shitty larvas died as class beast.
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>>548637990
Damn I didn't know you had access to that information and especially when Nasu himself also created Karna, the original curry servant.
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>>548638113
Not sure why you want that thing to be Nasu's so badly but sure, glad to help.
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This whole "Nasu" "not Nasu" is stupid, it's all Type Moon.
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>Sakurai didn't even get a Grand
Bros...
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>>548638001
>Show me a fight with a beast where they have a normal saint graph
Kiara in OC3. She even has the giant sprite she had as a Beast I'm fairly sure and she never stopped, nor had a reason to, stop being one.
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>>548630817
>that hip
would?
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Is Nasu going to explain how marisbilly created a planet...and can create things like ORT (subspecies) as a joke? Don't fucking say "uuh having a model of the universe means I can destroy the universe!"
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>>548638318
>only two writers are from Type Moon and one of the two is a lazy ass who never write
Sure...
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>>548638338
Kiara in OC3 is way after her defeat bro. When she got defeated, she created an alter ego which eventually turned into mooncancer.
But she was still class beast when she died and got to make that.
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>>548637706
>>548637990
Higashide wrote Ash, also Nasu also wrote Parvati and co-wrote Kama
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>>548594446
in the Nasuverse Solomon invented magecraft, didn't he?
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>>548638483
>Doesn't count
I literally showed you a case, you don't get to say it can't work for Goetia or pretend Kiara has some extra entity outside of her "servant" because it's simply not true.
She doesn't die, Ooku proves as much.
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hes right you know
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Nice thread retards
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>>548612631
it would go from 370 usd to 20K. Fgo can pay that
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>>548638367
Magic (magecraft).
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>>548612631
the fonts were undervalued, anon
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>>548638768
Doesn't count because Goetia breathed his last breath as a Caster, and Kiara breathed hers as Beast. Goetia already lost his qualification for Beast when he died.
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>>548638791
>put the most heavy event on December when everyone is busy for Christmas
What did TM mean with this?
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>>548639045
Please top making up bullshit as you go
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CAN A FUJO OR LOLIFAG SPAM PICTURES SO THE BLFAGS RAIDING US LEAVE?
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>>548639283
Fuck fujofag
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Neither Goetia nor Lev has a lot of character to me so whoever the Faker is is the same. Just stern deep deep-sounding Sugita.
I have a complaint that the voice really doesn't fit the character design.
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>>548639283
I'd rather not have more maleshit in thid thread
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>>548639612
Imagine if Guda or Mashu called him out earlier based on the voice
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I could be wrong, but for some weird reason I don't think I've ever seen Wada retweet Melt stuff from Midoupengin or this guy.
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>>548640001
Who cares
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>>548639879
It really doesn't make any sense that they confused him with Romani after hearing his voice if he sounds so DEEP. Just that Solomon face and Roman face, Suzumaru is the best voice. He can even do an edgy voice (Shinn/Evil Sanchan) even better because he has more range.
Sugita just sounds like an old man voice. The dual voices sound the best if you want to compromise.
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>>548639283
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>>548639045
Goetia died as a Beast and reappeared as a Caster. Just like Kiara, Tiamat or Kama.
Very interesting that KoH class is Caster right? Makes you think.
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>>548639283
Why would blfags go away from fujo content spamming
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>>548622760
Did you listen to the right voice?
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I hope it's Goetia and he jobs to Chaldeas (Olga) to really set up the new big bad.
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>>548641113
He's not thinking straight right now.
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>>548642268
this, the old big bad has to lose pathetically to hype the new one. like when vegeta got murdered by frieza or cell got one-shot by trunks.
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>>548641113
Men hate homosexuals
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>>548641143
okuni relevance
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>>548641143
tfw illya will always be relevant on the virtue that she's the only good ST Caster
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>>548639053
ahem...2016 pillar raid
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>>548641143
solomon will kneel to CHEN
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Oh I don't want them to fuck off, I do enjoy competitive lore discussions, regardless of who's right.
I just loathe the attitude of being invested in a universe just because of some old VN and loathing the gacha and its lore because you're acting as if its death will give you back the sekrit club from 10 years ago.
It's a lesson for everyone but the moment FGO actually dies and actually ends in main story, which isn't now nor in 18 days nor in a year, you won't have anything like this anymore. Nasu's done.
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>>548641143
Grand Slut
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>>548642572
grand kuni
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>>548642895
masochistic
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>>548641143
Remember when Waver was must-have?
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>>548641143
My king is the greatest
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>>548642889
I doubt it's a duel with multiple enemies
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>>548643227
People schizoing about lore is better than the usual schizos we get. If it drowns the second kind out with on topic talk I won't feel bad about it.
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>>548643402
what if >>548643437
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>>548643227
Vicious circle
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>>548643162
grand cup
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>>548643790
I don't care
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>>548643498
she's quite stacked
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>>548643790
solomon + pillars
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>>548643227
It's the nature of every general
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>>548644061
enjoy +2 turns brah
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Why should I like Romani/Solomon? He's a very bland character
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>>548642889
Grand score will grant you guts
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>>548644089
our wife has a big head
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>>548644289
Pic related
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>>548644421
It's a strategy called "attaching an image makes your post more visible"
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>>548644289
Same reason as Olga
duh
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So does anyone hope is AOE raid
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>>548644495
I meant very bland character applies to Kriemhild.
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>>548644212
>3 life bars
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>>548644289
Why should i like character that make my ears bleed?
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>>548644598
>>548644598
>>548644598
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>>548644534
Yes it'd make Tonelico usable



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