"ARC" edition, ARC.Previous: >>548515554North Line Update has arrived - New Map Stella Montishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9JeiBAAey4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVfTtOrRuFU >Newshttps://arcraiders.com/en/news/duo-and-store-updatehttps://arcraiders.com/en/news/north-line-update >Resourceshttps://arcraiders.com/en/newshttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/maphttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19IQX87jrhY-Sg41a2lm5lKrVJzwwc21gzF5i9SRnhM4/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Check the bottom of the docs!
why the fuck are so many people teaming up in solos to pvp it's really fucking gay to be constantly 3v1'd
Am I fucking myself over with Hornet damage if I'm shooting the back rotors (2 shots) and it immediately dies? or do I get 'all' the damage because I destroyed it? Or should I be trying to deal as much damage as possible before it blows up
>>548578537Get fucked on by the power of friendship nikka
>>548578428You will never be a real extraction shooter. You have no chase, you have no progression, you have no thrill. You are a battle royale twisted by persistent loot and PvE into a crude mockery of Escape from Tarkov. All the praise you get is uninformed and half-hearted. Genre veterans are bored and unimpressed, "fans" play 2 hours a week and don't know any better.
>>548578550Body shots gives more XP than rotor shots
>>548578651Arc is alive and well with a future. Your dogshit genre is dead. Stay mad lmao.
>>548578537It's easier to be a dick with emotional support.
>>548578642niggers attacking someone minding their own business isnt friendship it's being a gang
After anons pointed out that a bad spawn can really fuck over my Dam Control Tower setup, here's a revised version.
>>548578838A gang is based on friendship if you really think about it
>>548578997Why the hell do you have a cloak.
>>548579160He said he wants to stealth past the zipline sentries.
>>548579160So I have something to take home with me when I heem this BP gobbling fagoot with a shotgun
>>548579309So use a gun.
>>548578997>>548579309A well placed smoke grenade can also prevent them from shooting you
>>548579160>>548579309>>548579418Turns out you can interact with objects while cloaking so you can unlock the door and go inside without disturbing turrets and fireballs that are in there.
>>548579712So rather than bringing a basically free weapon, you bring one of the most valuable items in the game that you should be saving for easy deadmine runs.
where should I set up for hornets?I tried spaceport tower at night and I just tried dam EM on the lower roof of dam tower and I got such a mediocre score
>>548579791I also vendored a bunch of them because I don't ever do PvE, cry me a river.
>was taking it so easy that I died when the counter ran out 100 meters from extract>didn't run into a single player
>>548580283So you're retarded, got it
I've come a full circle to my early AR days as a level 75 and now shoot people with my Ferro for no reason.
>>5485785372 thingssome people try to get into the same match and talk on discordortheir duo queue system is kind of whack at the moment, and there is a possibility of getting a duo in your solo queue
>>548580796isn't that a bad gun for pvp, I feel like if the guy I was fighting wasn't a complete moron he could run and hide or melt me with any other gun, but I guess 2 shots to down someone is pretty good if you got good aim, no idea if you need more shots on a blue or pink shield
>>548581124It's only good for plinking at people from a distance when you got cover. One time I got into a shootout with a guy indoors. Thought he had an Anvil but it turned out he had a Ferro. If I knew it was that I'd have rushed him with my Stitcher.
>>548581379>take 50% health off with ferro>whack twice with pickaxe and they dieYou can get away with just a ferro in close quarters. Everyone expects the virgin reload shuffle and not the sexhaver melee rush.
Every time I'm willing to defib a downed guy, he just surrenders and dies.Why are you like this?
>>548582035Probably never been defibbed before and think you're a rat finishing them offThat's happened to me 2 times, but I usually try to say something over micAlso if you're solo, people assume once they are down they fucked the run and will ragequit, it's not often you get a friendly raider with defibs nearby, even if you get a raider nearby, sometimes its a freekit or someone who just didn't expect to defib randoms
Selling all of these in a few minutes. All are free if someone wants em
>>548583201Bro spray is in high demand, you can trade it for something good
>>548583397The only bp I "want" is comp 2, and I can live without it
>>548583506I'll be glad to take it off your hands then. Don't have comp 2, any other attachment bps you want?
>>548582894I have literally never encountered anyone pvping for the sport or for mutual fun. The only people shooting I ever see are future serial killers or campers that kill you and leave your full inventory after pretending to be friendly just to waste your time.I don't even bother wasting the time or giving them the satisfaction of watching the timer run out. If you want to defib someone after killing them, don't even bother shooting at all and save it for someone downed by an arc.
>>548583810Post a friendcode. The only other attachment bp I don't have that I actually care about is the lightweight stock, but I've heard that one is pretty damn rare as well
>>548583201>spray>silencer 2I'd take those
>>548583201I need vita spray anon. want aphelion?
>Expedition finished>The thought of trying to get the boss BPs all over againYeah, nah.
>OCE solo>Pretty normal fights around med, win it and start looting the center top area>18min>hear people max sprinting toward me, take the zipline up>They open the door, i oneclip the first one through>Second one makes it up the zip >Instantly headshots me off the zip when i'm around a corner on my screen>Check profile>He's supposedly polish, kinda new account >bunch of comments about him cheating>has a twitch channel>A single clip uploaded and nothing watchable, same as almost every eastern euro tarkov cheater that bought premade accounts>Check the person i killed that he was teaming with>botted steam accounts commenting on his profileThis is what it looks like when someone keeps buying cheat services and does nothing to hide it.
Someone better take these off my hands or I'll do it>>548584159>>548584271Post code
>>548584723Trade with this guy: >>548584271, get something for your trouble.
Is the out of map glitch on stella well known? some guy took me above the map to run to the extract and I could see how a troll would have the time of their life up there
Our gamer girl, Stefanie Joosten, is live!
>>548585034Keep moving, simp. This is a Nut Neighborhood.
>>548585019You mean that zipline thing? Yeah it's sorta known.
>>548585034there's a bot that skims these threads and auto spams streamers
>>548583890same, even when I do see someone trying to go hard in the paint in pvp solos, it's obviously some newfag that usually plays fortnite based on how they've killed 3 people and knocked them out instantly thinking they're going to get a #1 pop up at the endalso I assumed that guy meant running to someone who got shot by arc or just made a mistake, I'll run for people flares sometimes shouting"hey raider, I got a defib" fully knowing he might have died to some sociopaththe only time I see someone shoot and then defib the person is that gay peanut stream in trios and him begging for his life and people going>omg are you famous>here let me help you
>Save up Deadlines one per day for over a week>Load up with a grappling hook, try to plant them on top of the queen just because its funny>Killed by a stitcher free kitter before i even see itfuck me for trying to have fun i guess
>>548585221The devs cant throw a boundary up there? Why are they so anal about only updating on thursdays
>>548585261yea, at least it was just something you saved up from the shop over a week, feels bad when its like your 6 wolfpacks you need to get a high score on rocketeers and you don't have the blueprint, you found them allnot trying to go woe is me, but hopefully that makes you feel better that you didn't lose anyhting too crazy, but it sucks
>>548585261>looting mk3 for 3 save slots>save slots: snaphook/deadline/deadlinetake the snap out only for when you're gonna climb the queen and immediately stow it. plant your deadmines and get your clip then never do it again because people are annoying
>>548585243I'm not a bot thoughever.
>>548585709you just added a name to the list that will spam the streamer
>>548584723thanks and nice pose bro
>>548585791I saw it when I dc'd, No clue how it happened but 10/10 regardless
>>548578537This happened in dmz too, super big faggot behaviour to team up just to hunt other solos
>>548585862>somehow did damage to hornets>get put into a sweatlord bracketHOW DID IT HAPPENfml, at least the BPs are worth it I guess
I have yet to see a single person running the fencing skin
>>548586375>Tactical green, slapped with neon white>Hot pink red>Fucking yellowGee I wonder why
>speranza griefing list go hit so hard they have to make you agree that you are now aware its """satire""".you just know they wish this took off so they could create a 'bad list'
Man they really need to nerf the stitcher. Its just ridiculous, and genuinely the single biggest problem with the game right now. Why is one of the best guns in the entire game also one of the most common? I've been playing with friends going for PvP and literally everyone uses stichers, the gun makes everything else in the game entirely pointless. Its also responsible for free kits being too strong.
>>548586734The only useful thing that website could ever do is a name and shame for actual cheaters and people who do this >>548584640, but they don't even have a category for it.
If they do waifu coomer skins I hope they all have untoggleable glowing clothing so I can track you from range
>>548587080Idk I think the Toro is better
>someone glitches into keycard room through the walls then kills me then calls me a pussy while laughingpeople who play this game just to be niggers are really something else
>>548587521The Toro IV has a higher TTK than the stitcher 1, while having less ammo, less range and being rarer
Maybe it's fucked up but if I'm extracting in a night raid with random people and they're being shady I'll just down them and push the button. I'll let them keep their shit and extract but I'm not being made a victim anymore. The rats ruined that.
>>548587672You can't do that anymore.
>>548587080It needs to have the recoil and dispersion gain jammed right up so you actually have to upgrade it to IV for it to be in any way controllable.
>>548588081I literally just had it happen to me you fucking monkey kill yourself
>>548587676But you can pump a lot of damage around corners, keep up the corner peak pressure and prolly even switch to nades. Most people need a reload on the stitcher and against a pumpgun I doubt they come running to you.Also a Toro 3 is pretty ok to craft
>>548588187Don't take your anger out on others. It's a bad look.
Celeste owes me sex for all the dumb errands she's made me run
>>548587905Why would it be fucked up lol. Just make sure you don't get thirdpartied
my bad. ill shoot him through the walls next himyou dont even get a (you)
>>548588413Imagine all of the faces she doesnt make during sex Just laying there like : |
How do you time the cloak dropping with the deadline? The placement time is way too long.
>>548588568Whenever I tried to do it I'd just fucking die. It's not even the placement time, it's time + range + stagger from being stepped on. Pretty sure it's like 10% chance to work with all the random bullshit happening. Biggest meme in the game.
>>548587162there is no third party site that could ever do that. there was no regulation, you could just report anyone. they didn't even require a screenshot
>>548578428I've come to the realization that casualfaggot dads that play 2 hours a week (weekends only) and PVEcattle that try to police how people that actually play the game should play it, and try to bar you from voicing your opinions and grievances about the current state of the game are the boomers of the gaming world. Out of touch, retarded, despicable and more than happy to fuck everyone else over for their own piece that they'll nevertheless throw away at the end, except instead of dying in their Once-$15k-Turned-$2M house after becoming demented and gambling their fortune away they'll just leave for another game in a couple of monthsThis is not exclusive to Arc Raiders but surely is the most prominent example currently
>>548588568>toss lure nade behind something>they target it>plant mine>run
>>548588568I brute force it with a lure + smoke everytime
>>548578997based loot goblin, may you stumble upon a survivor augment soon
>>548589013>HD2niggersThere are certainly examples.
>>548589036>>548589026That might be better yeah
>>548588527That's how you know her making even the slightest sound or reaction would be hot as fuck
3 wolfpacks for this. Not bad, not bad at all.
>>548587905Nothing wrong with that, especially if you have a mic>guy staring at me with his gun out while I head for the console>pull out my secondary>turn around and down him>he doesn't fire a shot and is obviously friendly>go "Sorry, dude had someone shoot me in the back before, lets get the fuck out of here now"and he replied completely reasonably>"hey man, I totally get it, just don't kill me please"
>>548589176Already got it, some dumbfuck traded it for a tempest. The loot in that room is complete ass btw, after 3 keys the best I got was bettina BP, lightweight stock and silencer 3(mods, not BPs)
>>548588081They didn't fix any of the wall glitches. Instead you catch on fire IF the key has not been used. So if you go in and block the door, people can still glitch in and kill you.
>>548589634That's what the 500 mines and synthesized fuel is for
>>548589634>some dumbfuck glitches in>he meets the power of the sun as 12 explosive mines explode in his face
>>548589013That's a whole lot of nothing for a paragraph
>>548579791isn't that item basically free as long as you have workbench III and do all the quests
>>548589463As long as you get enough motion cores to make the wolfpacks you lost then I consider it a win. The rest is just bonus
>>548589809>tldr couchniggers, dadfaggots and subhuman swine who do not wish to learn, adapt or understand will ruin a game if the devs listen too muchI think anon just wanted to be eloquent for this one moment.
>>548589830It's like super cheap, speaker component and some other b's I don't remember
I keep getting packet loss today
>>548589972I have like 30 wolfpacks stocked, I can't realistically keep any of this.
>>548589982I don't see an actual argument he's making, anon tried to be le funny complain post about dadcouch complain post, not realizing he has become what he has hated for so long. A complain post!
>>548590203its easier to store its required materials than wolfpacks in bulk.
>>548590238It's merely an observation on his part, an agreeable one too. He's merely tired I believe.
>>548590203I used a shitton of Wolfpack'S too for trials today, simply to free up inventory space. I NEED MORE SPACE>>548590292Yeah I just realized that too recently
>Miss probes, cache, and electro storms>Only vanilla maps>Only night raids left and they aren't even up yet
>dam matriarch>hear some people fighting the matriarch>run towards the fight in hopes of ratting the blueprint>see rocketeer blasting>one raider flare goes up>another raider flare goes up>eventually make my way up to the top of the pipeline tower where they were shooting and find their bodiesit's no blueprint, but it IS a bunch of gear that is going to stay in my inventory forever :)
>go into Stella Montis with a free kit>blast Journey - Seperate Ways and Toploader - Dancing in the Moonlight >whenever I see someone disarm and tap dance>literally no one kills me>extract while dancing Works every time
>>548590361His mind must be working super fast then because there's just as much people crying about pve and le evil rats as there are people crying about the crybabies. It has become so bad I have started crying about the crybabies crying about crybabies. I wish everyone stopped crying
>>548590518>running legendary weapons on dam pipeline roofoof... the new meta is spaceport tower
>>548590292>3 refined explosives>2 motion cores>both stack to 5>wolfpack takes 1 slot>it's the sameDoes not compute>6 crude explosives - 0.6 of a slot>6 oil - 0.4 of a slot>2 motion cores 0.4 of a slot>1.4 slots per wolfpackBitch you lying
>>548590518Finders keepers lol
>>548579791it costs 4 speakers and 2 advanced electrical components to craft one, it's not that bad
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ok i guess you pussy ass fags have made it clear that you dont like free loadouts and you dont like grey balancehow about you post your ideas? what would you do differently since youre so smart
>>548591040They better add a tumblearc
>>5485910621. Remove free kits2. Add in hairpins and ferro as craftable weapons in-match3. Add in ammo and mk1 shield as craftable in-match
Do you guys think they're going to ban for the bunker bug?
>>548590778there are other recipes with those items
>>548591225I dont think we'll get any new content period apart from snow which does fuck all
>>548591062Matchmake free loadouts against each other. Since 80 percent of free loadouts are out for PvP it's basically intention based matchmaking for them.I would unironically use free loadouts more often too because it means no one has a safe pocket and everyone could have a blueprint in their inventory. Just think about it. Really think about it. Free loadout matchmaking
>>548591062nerf the stitcheradd a 3-bar gray shield to free kits
>>548591062We've done nothing but this for the past 2 weeksAt this point I'm tired of hearing all the possible ways to fix the game, I want to see what embark will actually do
>>548585221A bit redic that the devs added a zipline for no fkin reason inside the walls.
>get to extract fat as fuck>call it>hear someone voip, tell em I'm friendly>extract opens up, I run to it and say HELLO RAIDER>some guy goes in, I tell him he can have a wolfpack and torrente blueprint >drop them for him>he guns me down anywaysI don't understand
>>548583890>>548585251Damn, you guys must be unlikable as fuck if you're getting betrayed that much.
>>548591062All I know is that it feels like shit to check someone's bag and then it's always a free loadout, it's all anyone is running these days.
>>548591717>"Hey bro I'm loaded as fuck I have so much loot I'm gonna share some good shit with you">Has not read the bible, pure soul that is ignorant about the greed of humansI love your purity
the finals is better than this and they made that by accident
>>548592021The few times I go out of my way to be nice and share with others this shit happens. I'm just going to go back to being a dickhead I guess
>>548591532This. The community brainstormed the best fixes in days and embark has done fuck all so far, not even an acknowledgement
>>548591062>Nerf the headshot modifiers across the board to be no larger than 1.5x with exceptions for shotguns (1.0x) and precision weaponry (no higher than 2.0x)>Nerf magsizes for kettle/stitcher by at least 5>Slightly nerf firerate bonuses from upgrades for the majority of the weapons.>Buff shield deflect/charge across the board by 5-10% deflect and ~10-15 charge>Rescale movement penalties for shields so they are more polarizing between eachother (0%/10%/20%), ie: heavies should be slow as fuck but could also tank a mag from some weapons unless headshots.>Buff bettina damage by 1, reduce durability drain.>Give freekits a grey shield with shit stats (potentially mediocre deflect % and low capacity to merely prevent oneshots)>Perhaps? increase freekit augment capacity by +2 (16 slots in total) so they don't bitch too much.>Expand field crafting a little (for things like door blockers)Did I miss anything important?
jus nother day in paradise homeboys
>>548592581He is 100% not the person who would like this game. Welcome to banworld pimp
>>548592741forgot how miserable of a person he is. just 100% a kos freeloadout type nigger we see all the time in the game.
>>548592842Half the rats think they're playing a death match game.
You guys think Embark actually comes here to look at our retarded ideas?
>>548591062Nerf Stitcher I, kettle I, and ferro IReplace green shield with a new Grey shieldPrioritize free kits for late spawnsDisallow free kits from queueing for stella/queen/matriarch/bunker
>>548591062Its really simpleAll greys are rattler tierfreekits spawn in at 18 minutesbuff whatever pink is underperforming, bettinaincrease shield health and possibly normal health to increase TTKBPs are no longer safe pocketable
>>548592985>BPs are no longer safe pocketable Why the fuck would anyone want this change?
>>548592985Nigger tier solutions you are braindead
>>548591193>>548591062This is the solution everyone else stop posting
>>548593095Extract campers are tired of only getting trash because they can't be bothered to actually play the game
>>548593404>>548593095>because they can't be bothered to actually play the gamenaked chinese runners are the ones not playing the game...
>>548593535WAAAAHHHHHH THIS GUY HAS A SAFE POCKET, IT HURTS MY FEELINGS WAAAHHHH
I can't think of anything more pathetic than sitting around for potentially 20+ minutes with your dick in your hands waiting for someone to trundle to the extract.
>>548593647you need to calm down sir. you must be one of those doing the naked runs. you cant safe pocket a gun but you can safe pocket the most valuable resource in the game with no counterplay. not good.
Why the fuck does naked even have a safe pocket? Isn't that supposed to be tied to the augment?
>>548593765I absolutely am, I need those blueprints farmed after all. Tell me why me having a safe pocket and going for blueprint farming hurts you so much. If you want those blueprints maybe you should start looting in the looting shooter game
>>548593765The solution is to make bps not complete AIDS to get, not to remove safepockets you drooling retard
>>548593647You're here every single day going>WAHHH GREENTEXT ABOUT OPINION I DONT LIKE WAAShut the fuck up you stupid nigger.
>>548594068This will not happen for the next two months, embark is stretching out the grind like an old gum so people don't progress too quickly
It's obvious the safe pocket existing naked is an unintended design point of making sure you retain your safe pocket items if you die and drop everything. Wouldn't a better solution just to make an overflow inventory for safe pocketed items and dump them into your stash?
>>548594280That's already how it works when you die with more than one safe pocket
>>548593998>If you want those blueprints maybe you should start looting in the looting shooter gameSays the guy who thinks its okay to skip over half of the game in a looter shooter, which is to bring gear into a match to be able to loot high risk areas.>nuuuuu you extract campWhen I just said to nerf greys and freekits and increase TTK? Please tell me how it is fair that I bring my loadout get a shitty spawn, go to the loot spawns to see 10 naked bodies who stuffed BPs up their ass and suicided to get out of the game as fast as possible? Meanwhile I'm the retard for thinking that I need to play the game by bringing in a loadout when I should have just done what you did and go naked with 5 stim shots to suck up all the BPs with no counterplay. That is not fun for anyone. You dont engage with the game at all.Youre no better than the freeshit rat who waits 20 minutes for some fat loot to stroll by extract. In fact you're worse because at least I can shoot at the rat and have a little fun that way, youre already dead by the time I load in.
Whats with the total media blackout from Embark? you'd think they want to capitalize on the momentum instead of doing what they did to Finals and letting the thing rot.
>>548594181It's my first day here nigger, nice psychosis you have. Take your meds and close the windows if you have paranoia
>Dude straight up appears around a corner from me when i had complete vision of where he could've pushedHey stella glitchers, how much freedom do you have to come in and out of the LODbox?
>>548594351Yeah, so make it work with all of them.
>>548594372No augments should definitely lose the safe pocket. Although I don't think it will matter much because scrappy gives you enough for a new one if you've been in raid for a least 5m. It will punish people who insta-suicide to get a better spawn though as it will create a drain on resources.
>>548594068>not to remove safepockets you drooling retardNobody is saying that all I am saying is to make BPs not safe pocketable. Guns cant be safe pocketed so why is it that the most rare thing in the entire game can be sucked up at no risk to someone who refuses to engage with the game? I wouldnt be opposed to making BPs more abundant though.
>>548593808The free augment takes up your butthole slot
>>548594372Beat them to it then, retard. to everyone except the naked looter, it's no different from a kitted guy looting it first and walking out. That BP is going up someone's ass. Pack adrenaline instead of seething.
Free loadout my beloved
>>548594609>WAAAH LET ME LOOT THE ONE THING I NEEEEEEED
>>548591717i just gun down anyone who comes into the extraction these days if i dont have smokes. they can extract with if i feel like they didn't deserve it in the moment (they did).
>>548594372That's why you matchmake naked people and free loadies against each other exclusively. Anyone that brings their own gear is in their own queue. In fact make geared queues better by having them all start at the beginning of a round without a second wave. But you'll still have cheap rats running to the loot hotspots with their adrenalin crack to shove blueprints up their ass. It's the absolute meta when it comes to farming them
>>548594609nta, but I heard a suggestion about some reverse-engineering projects.>sacrifice an item you want a blueprint of>it tells you to bring a fuckload of resources to finish itWhat if blueprints could be dissassembled into "BP scraps" that these projects will eventually need?Then you can justify BPs being non-pocketable as well as fixing the BP dupes issue.
>heh retard, just risk everything when naked runners who literally have nothing to lose are spamming runs for BPs like a slot machine and leveraging nothing against the attempt
The high loot zones should probably be patrolled by enough ambient shit that you actually need some firepower to get there. Instead of just a nude ass.
>>548594609>Nobody is saying that all I am saying is to make BPs not safe pocketable. Fair enough, I can't read
>>548594740I accept your concession.>>548594683The looted guy I can engage with. I can shoot him, he can shoot me, he plays the game. Someone running in naked is not playing the game. Again, no better than the freekitter who doesnt bring in a kit and sits at extract. Two sides of the same shit coin.
>Heh retard just take this ultra casual game and make it less casual that'll surely keep it alive like all my other extraction shooters!
I think that the crafting costs of recipes should probably go up to increase the value of things like extracting with already assembled items.
>>548595023>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH CONCESSION CONCESSION CONCESSIONNNNN No. Cry more PvP carebear.
>>548594921Thatd be good too
>NOOO IF YOU FIX PEOPLE ABUSING UNINTENDED GAME DESIGN THE GAME WILL DIEHoly fuck nigger you need to fuck off to reddit already.
>>548594926every red zone should have a fuckin shredder tier annihilator that roams the whole fuckin zone that is aggressive as fuckevery yellow zone should have a healthy amount of robots everywherethere should be like double the arcs everywhere else on the map. more leapers and rocketeersmake stealth fucking required if you wanna get to places without using resourceskilling people should be like a red alert for OH FUCK THE ARCS GONNA COME and not...just another day for a free kitter nigger doin his rounds
>>548594740>>548593095Tarkov's mistakes are prophetic for this game. Eventually tarkov devolved into half your lobby having absolutely nothing on entry and safe pocketing the few valuable things in the lobby the moment they spawned and rushed to it.Eventually there were whole farms of chinks with wallhack and loot teleportation that would clean lobbies of everything good within a second. Sometimes you'd find their trash piles at the spawn they were.
Who are you quoting?
>>548595127>Cry more PvP carebear.Youre the one so afraid of bringing in gear because you dont want to lose it. Like a freeshitter.>>548595036The game should be casual through long TTK and ease of access to get back into a match, which it already does with how cheap grey gear is and failing with how low TTK is. Encouraging shitty behavior via freekits and naked runs has nothing to do with casual.
>>548595036yeahif your playerbase is casual to the point where making it so freekit shitters aren't more lethal than fully geared custom loadouts then you need to cull this shit asap unless you want your seven year project to fizzle out in under a half year
Snitch scanner should honestly be replaced with something else, because it's too easy to abuse for trials content in a way that doesn't seem intended. Maybe like a tagging grenade-EX with extended range or something.
>>548591717>save dude thats getting fucked up by hornets>ask if hes chill>"yeah bro I'm chill">couple minutes later, at extract>same guy approaches>voip to him again>he kills meHonestly I'd rather deal with the shoot on sight retards than these people.
>WAAAAAAHWow the PvP carebears really are getting booty blasted tonight
>>548595394>seven yearEmbark said 10-year. Issues like these need to be fixed first issue or first wipe (if you really want to collect enough data to fix the fucking obvious).
>>548595394>hurr i so smurt turn casual into hardcore much more players!>dies>Waohah! it died? hows it happen!? tarkov was hardcore and it was totally fine! Damn son you're so stupid its an insult to retarded people for you to keep breathing. Maybe go back to CoD or Tarkov or whatever other dead shit game you enjoy playing.
>>548595452>>548595552
>>548595514>(if you really want to collect enough data to fix the fucking obvious).Woah there. We need to collect at least 3 months worth of data before we can make any drastic changes to the games balance.*Nerfs hullcracker for the third time*
>>548595415ive learned something about human chemistry that people are more likely to shoot you in the back that in a face to face confrontation if the opportunity presents itself. Kind of like looking away from a tiger, they cant help themselves they have to maul you.
Why doesn't this board have IDs so I can filter this fucking faggot shitting up the thread.
>>548595610I accept your concession.
>>548595667I accept your concession
>>548595667>Makes a dumb suggestion>Gets blasted for it>CriesYou can stop posting any time carebear
>>548595667I accept your consneedion
>>548595636Ironically hullcracker nerfs were fine, the weapon actually requires you to aim at weakspots. The part that they are fucking up is that they refuse to balance PvP alongside PvE making the already big investment disparity even bigger.
>>548595023You can, in fact, shoot the naked guy. If he's going to the same place you are, and he beats you there, then you lost anyway because even if he had a kit then the bp is still his forever. If you beat him there and he gets the bp anyway then that means you suck ass for failing to kill him. The ONLY instance in which you could even begin to think that you're somehow owed the bp in his fudge factory is if you never went there at all and are just upset that the faggots you kill at extract don't bring all the bps to you.
Wow he's actually samefagging this is pretty funny, /vg/ schizos truly need to be put away for the good of society.
trailblazers are amazing extract camping grenades
>>548595667oh you think it's one person?
>Removing safe spotsWould instantly kill the game overnight, and not in some ironic way, this would literally kill the game. No casual is ever going to play again if they can't at least guarantee something from the run and every single player will become a KOS because they know the best stuff can be gotten from players. The ONLY incentive to loot yourself is to get items you can also put in your safe pocket, if you remove it you will just camp extracts instead, why run around a map when the BPs can come to you? Moronic change.
I need your very best spring farming location. I will literally run it naked and shove springs up my ass and suicide, that is how badly I want more springs
>>548595806>>548595751>>548595747>don't point fingers>every side gets madI didn't expect a salt farm but here we are.
>>548595923Full loot pvp is AIDS and everyone knows it, this was known as early as MUD days. Even runescape let you keep your highest value items if you died in the wildy.
>>548595923Oh no casual players have to make a green kit that costs like 5 plastic to make boo fucking hoo the fucking audacity of asking players to even marginally engage with the system hey retard freekitters don't have a pocket at all and plenty of retards play that too
>>548595853Nah, this nigger is OWED the bp because he's a COOL guy that SHOOTS. Why would a COOL guy like him waste time doing UNCOOL activity like looting?
>>548595834>The part that they are fucking up is that they refuse to balance PvP alongside PvE making the already big investment disparity even bigger.Please keep saying this. I need reddit repeating it by the end of the week so maybe next week's patch can start addressing it
>>548595853>then you lost anyway because even if he had a kit then the bp is still his forever.But again you're missing the point of an extract shooter, which is people bring in gear to be able to get out safely. Naked runners are not playing the game, I shoot him I waste bullets and give away my position to other possible rats and get absolutely nothing out of it. Thats the issue. At least with a freekitter I can get ammo and some heals back. I get nothing from killing the naked man. Not even fun from engaging in a fight. He just dies like an NPC. Thats the issue. How can you not understand that the issue with the game is that best way is to bring in low quality gear or suboptimal gear. And again you accuse me of extract camping when I specifically want TTK to be increased and greys nerfed.
>>548596132It has literally nothing to do with free kits or crafting kits and you're a moron for making that embarrassing post.
>>548590518i have literally ran out of space to store more Queen cores, the other mats for Equalizers and Equalizers themselves, i literally have more of them than any blue weapon in the game, I think i only have a venator 2 that i bring from time to time
>>548595923>Removing safe spotsWhere did I say this. I said BPs, not removing safe pockets entirely.
>>548595923Remove it for free kits imo. Require at least a green augment's worth of stake for a safe pocket.
>>548596267Literally the same thing as that is all people want. >>548596281>Remove it from free kitsFree kits don't have a safe pocket.
>>548596281>>548596370ah fuck im brain damaged, I meant remove it for no-kits>>548596267Why not allow BP storage? IO
>check the bottom of the docs!no longer needed. the owner fixed it
>>548595923Anon, he said BPs be non-pocketable, not safepockets being removed.Which you can also balance out by making BPs spawn more...Or even apply the "BP scraps" suggestion I brought up higher where pure BPs are non-pocketable, but scraps are, so you have a choice of scrapping for a secure lesser investment or risking extract to get more scraps by disassembling in the stash or using the BP itself.
>>548596425>Why not allow BP storage?Hes a retard thats why. Probably a free kit nigger who wants to camp extract.
>>548596281>remove safe pocket for free kit???????????????????????????????????
>>548596132Freekitters play to shoot at everyone they see, they risk nothing at all, and potentially come out with better loot from a guy that geared up.The naked runner is the sigma. He does not care about the social hierarchy of geared people and free loadouts or anything else. All he does is consume as much crack heroine as possible to sprint to the looting place where the blue print was promised to him 3000 years ago.
>>548594926True. It's criminal that the spots that the game highlights as being EPIC LOOT are guarded by the easiest enemies in the game to defeat. WHY are the truly dangerous ark only the big bumbling titans outside protecting/threatening literally nothing except thoroughfares? Leapers should scrabble and drag their way through buildings to follow you. Shredders should be spawing in random/rotating Dam POIs from day 1.This game in its current state can only ever make PvE relevant to all varieties of player by having an equal variety of ark threats so everyone is equally under threat. I think that if ark were threatening enough, the current PvP balance as is could stay untouched and the faggotry would reduce greatly. Yeah you can sneak around shredders but doing bullshit anywhere near them will make your life much harder so it better be worth it. We need more shit like that.
>>548578428hey kind anon do you have the .webm of the initial setup to get up here? i just wanna fuck around with the matriarch and my equalizer when the event goes up
>>548596470>he saidDidn't read the rest stop samefagging.
>>548596154I've always been saying this anon, and will continue to.
>>548596470Retard
>>548596617>>548596683>shitting up the thread even more
Pubg Black Budget will kill ACK and tarkov
If you bring gear and lose to a free kit then thats on you having no skill>but theres no difference between grey and pink gearcorrect except for shields and utility, running green shield is actively sandbagging, plus, you bring a lot more healing, shield recharges and utility than a freekit gives. you can lose a neutral exchange and be able to reset multiple times, a freekit can only do it once, and depending on the severity of the hit, they might not even be able to fully reset. the odds are extremely in your favor, sick of you shitter faggots whining
>>548596828>My gun literally has no way to outdps a macrod kettle even with my heavy shield vs his lightIf they cap the firerate I will no longer take any issue with freekits
>>548596828Hot take there actually isn't anything wrong with the games current balance except for the fact that there is no PvE mode for boss fights. Everything has a place and works as is, only really the stitcher needs a slight tune down.
>>548596828>you can lose a neutral exchange and be able to reset multiple times,so dont let them reset if you're playing freekit? are you retarded?
>>548596281Congratulations you changed the naked running man into a running man with a green loadout augment for 2k. The price of a blue item he's gonna farm anyways
>>548596816>PUBGThat game has been a minimum viable product for its entire lifetime, any sequel to it won't be much better
>>548596828Gunfights don't occur when both parties mutually agree to how a showdown and count to 12 paces. Even in your pink shield you're going to get jumped and if the guy is at all decent in his aim, you will die. Then it won't matter how many heals you brought. You dead in 1.37 seconds.
>>548597117>Gunfights don't occur when both parties mutually agree to how a showdown and count to 12 pacesNTA but they would if they added factions which this game should have had from day 1
>>548597117It's especially bad with 1.8 gamma niggers and shadow boost. They don't even need a flashlight but can perfectly see you lol
>>548597245What would the mechanics to that even be?
>>548589830When I tell you that ratniggers don't play the game...
>>548596945>they must be cheatingskill issue>>548597039utility lets you create space to reset>>548597117my points theoretical and you can never have a truly neutral fight, but anecdotally I only get cucked from extremities 1 in 10 fights, just play better :^)
>>548596816Extraction shooters have been audience captured by Arc and Tark the same way Fortnite killed battleroyales.
I really want to use this thing but I'm afraid of dying with it
arcs presence isn't dangerous enough and it is allowing free kits too much freedomdouble or triple the amount of arc on the map and see who the fuck is going around killin people without having robots on their ass after doing soraider flares should absolutely have 2-3 deployed or spawned wasps/hornets in a 20 foot vicinity after that happens so people doing the killing get fuckin punished for bothering to be a gay nigger.have arc get stronger over the course of the raid. campin niggers wont be able to camp as much if the arc had more menacing presence
>TTK massive increase AND blueprints can't be buttstuffedI have become unironically convinced this would save the game.Imagine the kino.>"hey man you find anything cool in there?">"Nope, just some exodus modules...">"Really? Because that's the tiktok route blueprint locker room">"haha I'm just unlucky man.." >armed staredown potentially into shootouthell, let guns go in the anus instead.
>>548595667I accept your constipation
>>548596210>I don't get anything for shooting naked peopleYou get to deny him access to the building you're looting, which is the only thing even approaching a reason to fight other players in this game.>How can you not understand that the issue with the game is that best way is to bring in low quality gear or suboptimal gear. It absolutely is and it isn't solved in any way by limiting what can be put into the safe pocket.
>>548595552work on the bait redditbro
>>548597472My biggest issue with arc is their sound response radius to gunfire is way too low, they should go into alert mode from way further away and more gunfire should cause them to enter their active tracking state (the orange light)
>>548597536Going into the healing pod after almost dying from reading your cringe
had to run these guns into the ground but for solo, not bad
rattler is good, actually
>>548597472The PvE element is definitely too easy but unfortunately this won't get changed. The devs don't get PvE at all.
>>548597734I may be cringe but I am free
>>548595667id + flags should be mandatory site-wide
>>548597740I like spawning in with it, it's fun to play, just has a magazine size problem
>>548597835The guy you responded to would still believe everyone was a samefag that uses vpn. He seriously needs to take his meds
>>548597740Rattler 3/4 is decent. Rattler 1 with no attachments is pretty bad thoughever.
>>548597668>You get to deny him access to the building you're looting, which is the only thing even approaching a reason to fight other players in this game.Yes but again lets say instead its a player with gear, at least I can fight for his gear even if he has a BP up his ass. Thats some compensation. A naked man? Nothing.>It absolutely is and it isn't solved in any way by limiting what can be put into the safe pocket.No doubt people would still do naked runs because of gear fear, happens in Tarkov too, difference being, that person now has to play the game and engage with its systems. That means he has to sneak, loot dead bodies for guns, if they ever make craftable guns in field do that, and sucessfully extract. Maybe team up with another solo. He has to now engage with the game instead of alt F5ing as soon as he gets a BP. It is not good game design when the optimal way is to not engage with 90% of the game.
>>548597740what if rattler reloaded 4 rounds at a time
>>548598001well we already have a schizophrenic pvefag here so i think it'd do us some good. Every single general I go to has a schizo that samefags for hours on end and keeps replying using a minimum of two devices./gflex/ /hdg/ /eftg/ the last one less so but there's a guy referred to as the huntfag that keeps having spergouts nearly every single day
>>548598034You're genuinely a retard if you think an actual playing gamer naked man and not a chink bot is alt f4'ing after getting a blueprint. If had rounds where I got three, so of course I'll suck up any looting spot to find a bp and shove it up my ass asap and then continue looting while trying to get a gun from a security breach. I had rounds where I had three blueprints, so just alt f4'ing after one blueprint is retarded and only done so by chink bots
>>548598253Sounds like you're the schizophrenic retard
>spaceport (mostly duo, solo can be alright at times)>try to do anything at all on the surface and get shot at by multiple duos>every zipline is trapped and camped by a jolt mine>quests? lol it's all in the towers where people camp or where they'll always be lookingthis map is the worst in the game and it's not even close to being a contest
>>548598490>duosthere's your problem
>>548598253Take your meds bro I'm begging you. It's not just one guy that finds EXCLUSIVE PvP niggers cringe. In fact over the weeks PvP niggers have become just as cringe with their circle jerk as the PvE crybabies. I called them pve crybabies but I do have to admit pve makes no sense in this game currently
>quality of life massively improves when you safe pocket these two items around the map
>>548597463Don't run shotgun silencer. Choke is mandatory on shotgun.
>>548598438>You're genuinely a retard if you think an actual playing gamer naked man and not a chink bot is alt f4'ing after getting a blueprint. If had rounds where I got three, so of course I'll suck up any looting spot to find a bp and shove it up my ass asap and then continue looting while trying to get a gun from a security breach.>I had rounds where I had three blueprints, so just alt f4'ing after one blueprint is retarded and only done so by chink botsSee thats another good point. The bots. Why wouldn't you want to stop them. Ive seen several times high loot areas with naked dead bodies and I just know those are bots. You should want BPs not pocketable just for that alone.
I'm convinced there is some weird fucking loot seeding. I hit this room ~10 times tonight and didn't get much out of the ordinary, and then this time I suddenly get a massive pile of pinks and a legendary. I played a trio match on day with some friends and hit it, we got 5 fucking wolfpacks
>every general I go to has a schizo that disagrees with me personally but it's totally not mekek
>>548598775It's called RNG, anon.
>>548598681i'm not saying that everyone crying about pvp is the same guy but this one stands out, you can tell by the way he seethes in every post he makes>>548595127>>548595552>>548595678>>548595747>>548594740for some examples and this is not the first or last time he will be having a spam meltdown
Why can't guns be put into a safe pocket anyways?
I got the game 3 hours ago. How do I lose the fear of playing this game? I feel like I need to take a break between every round... is this normal?
>>548598898I get no pinks/legendaries at all, and then all of them spawn in the same raid. There is something fucky there. I'd expect to just get one every few trips rather than none at all and then more than I can carry
>>548598917Probably so you can't take out your NiggerBlaster9000 just to win a firefight and then put it up your ass so it's safe from you getting murdered from behind
they need to do something about repairs.. what do you mean repairing it is going to cost me 6 advanced mech components?>inb4 repair before 50expedition and special quests or something should allow you to progress towards unlocking cheaper craft and repair costs.
>>548597738That's about the score I got on solo myself yeah, hidden bunker? I haven't played today so idk if it came up again.
>>548598952>I got the game 3 hours ago. How do I lose the fear of playing this game? I feel like I need to take a break between every round... is this normal?Realize the best equipment is the starter equipment that are easily replaceable.
>>548598490I love it for the easy breach doors and security breaches>>548598735Need to invest in a cloak already and use it, running around on foot on crack while being hunted by arcs is immense kino though>>548598760Because I haven't seen any naked corpses on blueprint farm spots yet. It's just genuine players rushing the spot and trying to finish the round afterwards organically.The only solution you will have that fucks over free loadouts but in a good way and helps everyone else is having free loadouts matchmake against other free loadouts. I'll die on that hill
>>548598913No one cares
>>548598917I can make a single slot worth ~70k using a modded out gun. Imagine if you could just scoop up all the best attachments and guns from raiders mid-match, fill 3 safe pockets, and come out with ~150k even if you died. Not to mention shoving your gun in your ass mid-fight to deny the loot
>>548599105space/night, actually. I wanted to do hidden bunker at the trench towers because its supposedly surrounded by hornet patrol spawns but I spawned closer to the tower so I zipped up and the extract below was the last one so I just just kept killing until the last 2min
>>548598952what server do you play
>>548599248Nice.
>>548598913W-will you t-take your meds now anon?....
>>548599221Money and guns are worthless though.
>>548599106Alright, that sounds like a good thing to know.. thank you anon.>>548599264South America or NA East...
>>548597740give me some reasons why
>>548599331No, that one was a 50/50 so I will apologize to (You) alone.
>>548599331Hes not going to stop shitposting until you stop replying
>>548599373damn 2 far 4 me t.ausfag
Remember me?
>>548599445It feels really fun to shoot with it. I love the sound. Reload is fine if you can keep cover>>548599509You're right, I fall for it too easily
>>548599523Oof... oh well
>>548599582>Comparing a game with bullet sponge enemies with HP bars over their heads vs a game with actual feedback and weak spots that change how enemies behave I swear people get dumber all the time.
>Get killed by spic with macro'd kettle last night>get all my stuff back today in an unfair play messageThey are considering that cheating now so you know, might want to consider that.
>>548599445its full auto
>>548599582yeah i remember this garbage destiny clone lel
>>548599601soul is great at all but bringing a rattler is actively losing
>>548597406Your gay theorycrafting means literally nothing if some freenigger sneaks up on me while I'm fighting arc and downs me in a single stitcher magazine regardless of kit.
>>548599804>getting ganked while fighting arclole
>>548599746Of course its cheating its a third party program
>>548598490spaceport is fuckin aids and its like they forgot to include vehicles
>>548597740The rattler is perfect imo. In freekit form its just barely useable with good positioning and tier IV addresses the magazine problem and has decent range and dps.
>>548598979>I'd expect to just get one every few tripsYou expect it but that's not how RNG works. It's just random. Even if there was something fucked up, you wouldn't be able to tell with a handful of attempts. You as a human have a pattern seeking brain that looks for the logic in pure dice rolls.
>>548599796I was able to kill players on a free loadout with it. You just prolong the fight until you know bro is weak and then rush it. It's really accurate you can corner and cover peek well with it on medium distance. I get it though, there's better options. But the rattler isn't THAT BAD. And medium ammo gives you utility against arcs. I'm fine spawning in with a rattler
>>548599975sir, your ziplines?
>>548598952run free load outs, then realize how easily you can just use mk1 armor augment and the only downside is having to keep crafting them after you die and a ferro and stitcher
Have you ever whiffed so bad you still think about it hours later?
>>548597740If they ever make it so freekits only get rattlers and hairpins, I'd be okay with them making it so those shitty weapons can be upgraded in-raid. Could make for some really cool adventures
>>548599865Yeah and? You telling me no one's ever gone after you after you've deadlined a leaper or gone around trying to hullcracker ground titans?
>>548600120I repress it immediately
>>548600120Was looking the meat grinder in blue gate, found a blue print and instead of safe pocketing it I shot back out of instinct..... Stress makes you pick the worst options.....
I've made some hullcrackers
Kind of crazy that a good 70% of the skills are extremely situationally niche yet even within their hyper-specific use cases they still hardly affect anything.
>>548600287The shitposter doesn't actually play the game
>>548600287no I fight other players not this gay pve shit
>>548600545And some ammo...I like blowing things up.
>>548600545Don't level them up it's a waste, their dps pretty much stays the same anyway.
>>548600560it can create some schizo tier plotting because you see how loud breaching is so you work your way to it and realize that was a fuckin waste because its still loud as fuck.
>>548600692On a free loadout exclusively?
>>548600287>Deadlined a leaper>Hullcracker ground titansHave you installed the game yet?
>>548600798I suspect so.
>>548600698Forgot pic like a retard>>5486007013+ gives me enough time to knock a knee off a bombardier/bastion, flank to their rear and knock the canister off both refreshing the stun and exposing the core.Using a lvl 1-2 doesn't give me enough time to do that and they just turn around and smoke me.
>>548600798no if you follow the replies my entire points have been that freekits are dogshit easy to kill and that people who complain about freekit "strength" are bad at the game
Please tell me one good reason why free loadouts shouldn't be matchmade against other free loadouts exclusively. If my idea is retarded I at least want to know why
>>548600816Yeah, do you use your autistic mind powers to blow things up or something?
>>5486007215/5 silent breaching doesn't really do anything if someone is in the same building as you but it sure as shit helps when hitting up exterior breach points like arc couriers and the like.
>>548600956There's only 1 reason.Freeniggers still get access to the same degree of loot as the players who actually invest, completely fucking up the investment/reward shit that extraction shooters are supposed to be built on.>then make those lobbies have less lootEither way you're segmenting the playerbase for no reason.Just make the shits weak enough so they think twice about engaging in PvP.
>>548600956Low player counts making matchmaking increasingly hard
>/arg/ >OMFG FREEKITS BLAANCE SHIT GAME WAH>Everywhere else>Im having fun
>>548600934My bad, it's getting late and it was hard to follow. Free kits are perfect strength wise They're perfectly balanced. It's the fact that the freekit user psychologically plays different that doesn't warrant a nerd for him, but matchmaking exclusively for him and his likes. He wants to PvP anyways do he should. With other free loadouts. They can all fight for the blueprints on the map since no one can safe pocket them
>>548601216The grey weapons should be balanced more like the rattler where in base form it shoots bullets but suffers from hard limitations that are addressed by upgrading and modding later on. Like the stitcher and kettle could have a lower base magazine or slightly worse dispersion/recoil but stay in the same state at max level.
>Il Toro 4>Stella Montis >Get called a faggot every 2 killsKINO
>>548601434>Like the stitcher and kettle could have a lower base magazine or slightly worse dispersion/recoilYes>but stay in the same state at max level.Probably could be a bit worse anyways, especially the 2.5x headshot modifiers need to go. They would still be economically the best weapons in the game and like 5% worse than their high-tier counterparts of bobcat/tempest.
>>548601647Wow is their headshot multiplier really 2.5?
>>548601216They will but they cannot safepocket it. This added with the fact that a free loadout nigger is out for blood and PvP anyways means that you have just as much access to blueprints, but you risk much more DURING THE ROUND. I think it balances it perfectly. I'd genuinely load in as a free loadout a few times to feel my heart pumping from trying to extract with a blueprint I can't safestash>>548601227If the quality of every player involved increases, then I'd genuinely be happy to wait longer. You might not realize it but this free loadout matchmaking is helping EVERYONE. People focusing on pve will have higher odds of people doing pve too. But there will be PvP still. It's just those PvP guys in the geared lobbies risk their own weapons, so they will have a different mentality.There's one group that would hate this. Only one group. And that's free loadout niggers that want to hunt pve niggers
>>548601809>Reddit spacingGo back
I have a Bobcat and Vulcano sitting in my stash because it literally isn't worth losing to a rat and you're actually safer with greys and greens because people won't target you just for your gear
>>548601452I use a Toro 3 most of the time. Is the upgrade to 4 worth it?
>>548601807Yes anon, picrel, there's also this site where the data was taken from.https://www.anvil.work.gd
>>548601898I can't, I'm banned on Reddit, can you give arguments why my suggestion is bad? Or are you a low iq nigger?
Stitcher 1 needs absolutely fucking insane bloom/recoil so you can't just magdump someone down. Like that one CSGO clip where the dude shoots at a crouched terrorist and it literally just draws an outline around him from the spray pattern.
>>548601970>pump delay goes from ~1.1s to 0.55s for some fucking reasonYes, it's the only toro worth using because the scaling isn't actually linear if you test it.
>>548601282I know I can kill you if I really want to and prepare for it but this nigger on extract is super scary when I forget to bring smoke nades with me
>>548601969Just run duos/trios in Stella med bay and you'll have several more of each after a successful match
>first naked run in Buried City night>load in at 19 mins>apartments unlooted somehow>find two BPs I'm missing>successfully extract with a Bungalatorwas really that easy all this time?
>>548602191What the actual fuck I will try this out tomorrow
>>548602248>on extractWhy? If he downs you, you now have a bodyguard until you leave
>>548601809>They will but they cannot safepocket it. This added with the fact that a free loadout nigger is out for blood and PvP anyways means that you have just as much access to blueprints, but you risk much more DURING THE ROUND. I think it balances it perfectly. I'd genuinely load in as a free loadout a few times to feel my heart pumping from trying to extract with a blueprint I can't safestashNah, I think freeniggers should eat shit and build an actual loadout.It's supposed to be a desperation measure, nothing more, nothing less. Desperation being "my focus is to loot a bit of stuff stealthily and get out or I will get smoked with minimal effort from the aggressor".
>>548601227What matchmaking. It grabs 20 random players and throws them in a room. The game is at least half a decade away from having to worry about not finding 20 players in 13 minutes.
I have never received anything good out of a weapon crate
>>548602410Got sniped from the distance while downed lol. Maybe that was just me being super unlucky though>>548602385Embrace the naked man lifestyle. Got a Wolfpack blueprint recently from a corpse hidden under a broken bastion core that like 5 people didn't see. I was screaming like a fucking teenage girl when I stashed the Wolfpack in my safe pocket. They came in super handy too for trials today>>548602436So you're just a tarkov nigger or something that wants the safety of his upgraded gear. That's gay. I partially get you. Why should I invest in my loadout when a freebie nigger can just kill me. But the solution is to just never have a geared person fight a freebie. Only if both parties risk something can you have a meaningful prisoners dilemma. In any other case the freebie will go suicide mission. So just let him headbutt against his own kind
>120hrs in this game>still don't even have HALF of the BPs, let alone the wolfpack which is literally the highest value BP available right now
>>548602621THATS WHAT IM SAYING. Literally matchmaking is not a problem yet. I HOPE embark at least tries out this idea. I genuinely think it would make every party happy. Except free loadout rats going for pve niggers
>>548602403here's a video to make it easier for youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr0C-a5QfAkpicrel is a snippet
>>548603053>Wolfpack>highest value Why? I got two in one run and sold the other immediately
>>548603114That's actually insane lmao. Idk what mats I need for the Toro 4 but it looks super worth it in any case
i guess i beat the game, i have all the legendary BPs and very little of anything else lol
>80% of matches are just chilling with other randoms trying to quest, bumbling around swatting bugs and getting loot>20% of matches are all gas, near instant death from some random PvP fag in the first minute where you lose all of your shit from the previous matches you've been farmingI want to like this game but it's so inconsistent from mind numbingly boring to hardcore gay buttsex 3rd degree terminal AIDS. Should be dedicated PvE or dedicated PvP servers. Like that or there should be a bounty system or reputation for Player Killers, like your comms lady should open up and announce someone is going around killing people come fuck their face up etc so it naturally groups up good bois and assholes in a more predictable format like Amongus or Dead by Daylight. So you'd still have PvE and PvP elements but the guesswork of it being a griefing match or not is thrown out.
>>548602969>Why should I invest in my loadout when a freebie nigger can just kill me. But the solution is to just never have a geared person fight a freebie. Only if both parties risk something can you have a meaningful prisoners dilemma. In any other case the freebie will go suicide mission. So just let him headbutt against his own kindTeach people to build a loadout and learn to lose gear fear as minimal as it can be and don't segment the playerbase for no reason. It's that fucking easy, to cope with>muh tarkuhis idiotic at best.
>>548603053I have never crafted a single wolfpack with the bp
>>548603237>relatively cheap to make despite being a purple>amazing way to take care of big arc quickly and minimizing the chances of someone ratting you
>>548603053>wolfpackYou get a shitload of them from loot spots, I've crafted only 5 at best while using almost a hundred of them.The most crafts I've made with a BP is probably tied between vita spray and venator, excluding various the gunparts.
>>548603237cheap to make and will either one shot large arcs or leave them low enough to finish quickly with an anvil
>>548602969>So you're just a tarkov nigger or something that wants the safety of his upgraded gear.oh yeah the "safety" of tarkov high end gear lmaopeople of all gears should be able to fight each other, that's a core element of extract shooters
>>548603787Arguably Tarkov gear advantage is miles worse compared to ARC because of how easily you can abuse blunt damage, head/eye someone or just leg meta the guy.
>>548603787I always wondered what tarkov would be like with a downing feature for excessive blunt damage from sources like 12 gauge that would absolutely knock you on your arse if it didn't immediately penetrate your armour or kill your anyway.
It is so strange how rats are almost ALWAYS silent. No emote wheel, no mic. Just silence. What is the science behind this? I must know.
>>548604146Until you kill them at least then they start whooping and hollering
>>548603326this game is doing way too good to worry about any sort of segmentation. And I'd rather have segmentation between free loadouts and geared loadouts instead of any other sort of matchmaking whether it's pve only or aggression based matchmaking or whatever. You literally put the retard children into the kindergarten where they all be retards together. I genuinely don't see any backlash from it. If this game had like 10k players maximum, I'd get your point>>548603567You mean from the power rod room? I find a shitton of them in there too. Still nice to craft them if you need them>>548603787Ok I have to admit I'm retarded when it comes to tarkov, I was employed by the time I tried getting into it so I never understood it. But I think people that feel threatened by free loadouts are still huge ass pussies
>can never get the queen last hit after countless tries>get Matriarch last hit with a Ferro 1 on my 2nd try>i even get the Aphelion BP uncontestedlife is so cheeky like that sometimes
>>548604146They almost always have empty, new and/or private profiles too. They're not real people.
>>548591717If they communicate via emotes, then you can't trust them. If they use a voice changer, then you can't trust them. If they sound like a jew, a nigger, a spic, a pajeet, or any other ethnicity that /pol/ would hate, then you can't trust them.
>in an enclosed room>hear a THUNK behind me and someone with one game on their steam account rips me to shreds with a bobcatso there are actual teleport cheats now that's cool
>>548604316Report them, 90% chance you get your stuff back.
>>548604281The issue is, so many players choose not to say a single thing, emote or voip, and are still completely friendly. I have no way of telling the difference between all of these people when they don't make it easy. If I just shoot anyone that doesn't use voip, I'll get killed by someone else near the extract that I didn't see/hear
>>548604316>someone kills me>their account is private>or has a bunch of bot comments>someones account isn't private>write how they pretend to be friendly and shoot you in the back>check a few hours later>account is private
I love the way you hold out the Anvil to your side when sprinting.
>>548604407i was doing a naked meme run on night buried city to try and rat a blueprint so i'm not worried about that at all, just a shame to see that this is likely going to start becoming an issue soon
>>548604231>woooooow I only had a free loadout and I still almost got you>whoa whoa we're cool I didn't mean it we're cool you got a defib please please defib me>incomprehensible squeaks of the damned while you hear parents arguing in the background
>>548604487It has incredible swag but unfortunately I feel slow as fuck like that
>>548604252>If this game had like 10k players maximum, I'd get your pointYou have to build the game for the long haul, stop being a short-sighted nigger. Make them learn the game basics, that is all.
>>548604407I wonder how long I can hold onto this
>>548604670Shit anon, you made me remember than I have 2 loadouts in the limbo there.Wait a second... do emails last through expeditions?
>>548604316teleportation with loot radar is the holy grail of RMT cheats and it wouldn't surprise me if there are expensive kits that do it out there in the more private cheating scene. Those fuckers can get away with it for months without a dev knowing unless they're a complete negroid about it.
>>548604610Can't remember the last time I ran around in this game for longer than a spare few seconds unarmed. Rats could be here, he thought out loud. Rats could be anywhere.
>>548603053are you playin the game normally? as in not just being naked blueprint runner meta slop speedrunning?
>>548604621Are you seriously thinking braindead cod niggers are going to learn anything? They will never they just want their new shiny battle royale, so let them play and keep the game alive, just put the special need kids together and shove them in a room. Let them do what they want without being a bother to people that want to engage with the game beyond shoot on sight
>>548604471Then you can't trust them. You don't need to gun them down in cold blood, but you can't put your gun away and accelerate the extraction timer. Let them interact with the computer terminal or stare them down until it auto-extracts.
>>548604316Had a raid with two friends on buried city where we got chased across the map by a three stack of blatant cheaters to the point where we ran from just south of the library to the southern extract where they were already waiting and absolutely fucking obliterated my friends. They checked their profiles and had THREE PRIOR GAME BANS. The worst part? One of the most exhilarating experiencies I've ever had on this game was running from those niggers to the next extract KNOWING they were hunting me, hearing them shoot drones on the way and their footsteps in some of the apartment complexes out of the southern region. Eventually they got distracted by another group and I made it out, but fuck me it was kinda crazy slipping away from a whole pack of ragecheaters. My friends also never got their loot back from that raid. This game is werid.
guy can i get a QRD on which are the only useful medical items to bring in most situations? also i have no medical BPs now that i notice kek, i have Wolfpacks and Guns but no big heals like Sprays or Vitas
>>548604904>Are you seriously thinking braindead cod niggers are going to learn anything?I wish to see the world burn.
>>548604831Yes, I have a human soul.
>>548604407I have reported over 40-50 people by now since release, less than 5% of them were a chance of the player actually just being cracked. I've only ever seen streamers get their shit back because they can directly email customer support reps.
>>548605004yeah same dont be discouraged about blueprints. no point really its not like shit matters too much this early on the game
>>548604904Can you imagine how it feels for a rat to be in a lobby with other rats ratting? Eventually this is an inevitably and it'll be an entire match wasted on people doing nothing but killing one another while the actual loot goes uncontested and untouched. It's as funny an idea as it is sad.
>>548605000You're just burning arc raiders instead lol. It will die a miserable death like tarkov
>>54860305390 hours topside with 51/74 bps ive done a bit of bugman level naked runs but ive stopped as ive traded for basically any BP i wanted besides maybe 2 but i dont got it in me to farm that shit more
>>548602385>>548602969anotha one>>548603053do what I'm doing, just do naked runs at night or during electromagnetic storms and runs straight to residential buildings
>>548605131Sorry anon, trips don't lie, them's the rules.Anyways, the codniggers will eventually leave just as it happened with HD2, no matter the amount of cuckolding those fags will bitch and whine and eventually quit to their safe space or move on to the next FOTM.
you can get on top of the vents in that cafeteria area in Stella and only your feet are visible, basically free killsjust reported a guy doing it
>>548605110THATS WHAT IM SAYING. Imagine you spawn in late at like 15 minutes left you see a huge corpse at the main extraction while you just go to the apartments, find everything unlooted and then leave with your blueprint.Of course it would never happen like this, you'd either become another corpse or you safely extract. But I genuinely think that free loadouts having no safe pocket would be incredibly funny if you have a lobby full of people with only free loadouts
>>548605070no way you've run into 50 exploitersyou're probably ignored for spam
>>548605236youre no better than freeloadout kosers buddy
>>548605306oh shit forgot to mention that it has your body glitched into the ceiling , it's not just hard to see
>>548605236I HATE dupes man
>>548604487I feel like Han Solo, nigga
>>5486049955x shield chargers and 5x green bandages if you can. One good run on lush blooms in spaceport's trench tower valley and you have a green bandage stack that lasts forever.One you get the BPs, Vita shot and vita spray are both debatably better than each other targeting antiseptic for loot is pretty important if you are going to run them consistently.as for surges vs rechargers, surges are impossible to continuously get through pvp but aren't so much better that rechargers are outclassed, taking either is fine.
>>548605493I'm not ruining anybody's game thoughbeit, it's like I'm not even there
>>548604790Investing in increased stamina/lower stamina consumption really offsets running with you weapon drawn. You really can't be too careful.
>>548605493WAAAAHHHHHHHH YOUR BLUEPRINT BELONGS TO ME IT BELONGS TO ME IT BELONGS TO ME IT WAS PROMISED TO ME 300 YEARS AGO
>>54860541750 aimbot/wallhack combo users, not 50 exploiters, i've never reported someone glitching a door.I experience more cheaters than the average NA/EU player because of my home server.
>>548605584I feel like the spray is still pretty useful even if you don't have the blueprint. Just always store it in safe pocket and live with the risk of losing it if you find a bp
I got stuck in those rocks in Dam Battlegrounds for a solid 5 minutes today and I couldn't get the prompt to become unstuck to trigger. It was pretty fucking bullshit.
>>548597740haha look at him go! *unzips dick*
>>548605830For sure, safe pocketing it as excess is a good practice. Better than letting it take bankspace.
>>548605939Just wanted to add while herbal bandages are great I would always have a second hp healing item that's blue rarity minimum. Just one is enough for a fight. Can really turn the tides if you're full hp in a few seconds
This game only needs one change and it's right click to use consumables from your inventory.
>>548605917I just died in that spot like yesterday lmao. It sucked ass
This game only needs one change and it's being able to draw your weapon mid combat roll.
Yeah, i should've mentioned that as the reason why blue healing is worth ignoring economy factors over. especially with state of shields and constant third partying, having quicker, better heals has very big benefits.
>>548605917I've learned to avoid cliffs
This game only needs one change and it's being able to craft after you've selected a map and are in your inventory.
>>548606238Let's add loadout recipes to the list. I don't want to craft every single item. Just let me make a list and autocraft it or something. >>548606396This!!!!
>>548606305meant for >>548606197
>>548605417NTA but I literally get griefed by out of bounds exploiters every single time I've tried to do launch tower loot. Like, we're talking more than half a dozen attempts. Never gotten our loot back for any of them.My squad is pretty cracked, so I imagine there's some element of SBMM that's putting us into lobbies with exploiters who have high KDA's.
>>548606238Or if Embark wants to be really gay about it, make it a high tier conditioning skill.
Theres a lot goin on here
>>548607002
>>548598952Yeah its normal. Game requires a lot of your attention and can be stressful af. Being on the verge of a panic attack for 20 minutes is taxing. Its not the type of thing I can just pick up whenever I need to be in the right mood. I only play a few rounds at a time.
the train camping rats will learn to fear the full naked scrounger>one fuze>one stack of impactslet me guess, you *need* more?
>>548606238start to equip a weapon then roll
>>548607179Im trying to catch up but it just looks like a few Aussies just tormenting each other.
>>548607371The naked man is the sigma that lives outside of the rats and PvP niggers hierarchy
>>548607371Kek
>>548601282the triangle above his eye makes him look really angry.
>>548607371The day you learn how good trigger nades are for their cost is the day you become a real menace in every lobby
>>548607371based nakedCHADwe got a little bit of goop
>>548608157Teach us your ways
hobo runs
>>548608675I love being a crack addict hobo
>>548608438I mean, i can give you the bp if you haven't done the quest yet.Two will kill anybody and there are a thousand rat strats that can be done with them (IE placing them on panels that have some kind of LED like extract terminals).Higher damage than any single shot from a weapon with effective TTK lower than almost every gun.
>>548593095Because naked blueprint runs are degenerate gameplay, and disabling degenerate gameplay needs to always be a higher priority than balance.
>Insect/creature names tierWasp, Hornet, Tick, Snitch (bird reference)>Military/Combat Role names tierSentinel, Rocketeer, Bombardier, Spotter, Turret>Movement/Behavior Descriptors tierLeaper, Surveyor, Pop, Fireball, Orbiter, Shredder>Fortress/defense terminology tierBastion>Leadership/Hierarchy TitlesThe Queen, Matriarch, Emperor
>>548608858I have the bp Im just curious about ways to use them. Its basically just putting them on terminals and waiting?
What if they put Shredders into key rooms and barricaded rooms?
>>548608914I wouldnt be surprised if they take the safe pocket away from naked runs desu
>cant play EMS spaceport without some sociopath shooting me in the back>not even looting ANYTHING>jsut doing the arc probe trialSome people really need to grow up
man there's isn't a lot to do in this game after completing the project is there?
>>548604252>But I think people that feel threatened by free loadouts are still huge ass pussiesI do agree with this statement in particular. You don't even have to kill the freekit instantly, just pop their shields 2 times and suddenly they can't fight you.BUT. I do think gray weapons are too good in comparison to higher tiers. Bettina is objectively the worst gun in the game (Sure Rattler, but at least the rattler is free and can become usable with upgrades, Bettina CANT) and it's a purple, while the best gun in the game is on a freekit (Kettle). Heavy shields should be buffed a little bit (Maybe 60% damage reduction) and the light shield should be nerfed to 30%, (Bettina buff, Aphelion buff, Kettle/Venator nerf) and the game is in a waaaay better state.
>>548609802endgame is shooting people in the ass for doing trials tasks.
Why can't the swedes actually explain the hard percentages/affects of the skills? >oh ya this one makes it a bit quieter I guess but if they are in the same zip code as you they wills till hear you>yah this one makes you crouch walk faster. how much faster? I dunno a bit
>>548609225You can detonate them almost immediately after you throw them so they're not just limited to being placed on things and are stronger than fuze grenades both in consistency of hitting players (they stick to players like snap blasts) while having higher damage than fuzes.
Det Nades are basically impacts in practice and need a 2s arming time.
>>548609785You are competing with people for a finite resource. They are correct to shoot you. Bring barricades, dumbass.
>>548610409>finiteYou stupid fucking gorilla you only need to SEARCH the probes for the points not breach them.
>>548609869kek, a friend of mine constantly bitches that he keeps getting murdered trying to get high trial scores
>>548610409All that matters is searching the probe. You don't have to be the one to breach it.Yes that means upright probes give you more points by virtue of being three interactables in one.
>>548610409Jesus
>>548610564Fair point, but if i didn't know that, they didn't know that. I was always under the impression you had to both breach and search.
>>548610912Nope, that's why if you see a probe that's already been cracked just go stick your hand in it. The wording of "open" is kind of vague, if it said search arc probes I feel like people would be less confused.
>>548610215Whats your extract camping success rate like? You get third partied a lot?
>>548611202I swear one of the previous trials actually specified and required you breach the probes, but I doubt the people shooting you even know this and are windowlicking retards which would shoot you anyway.
>generally chill spaceport matriarch lobby>matriarch dead>one betrayal, probably for the blueprint>entire lobby lights him up>defib the downed guy>another guy gets downed somehow>we gather around him>suddenly a heavy nade>we all rain down on this guy>running towards extract>one final betrayal>all of us run from the called extract and ignite him>the survivors extractI wish there was a way to identify the perpetrator more easily
>>548608157I went into a stella nightraid with the tactical healing augment and 20 stacks of trigger nades. Being able to have all 4 utility slots for nades and still have 3 healing slots makes it so easy to just rain hellfire on poor unsuspecting raiders. I was terrorizing everyone and it was hilarious listening to people hiding and talking about how afraid they were of the nade spam they were hearing a few rooms away
I'm a fucking rapist.
>>548611301I don't extract camp at all, it's just easy with trigger nades.If you're actually extract camping you don't even loot until you know you're alone, you let the idiot get baited by the corpse in the open for an endless chain of free kills.You can also place trigger nades under a body, but they're kinda obvious when people are close.Sticking people with a trigger nade as they loot your bait corpse is probably the highest winrate strat.
How good is the reduced hearing loss from explosions skill?
>>548613774waste of points
>>548612149>MFW hearing more than 3 trigger nades go off
>>548613991play it again johnny....
>finally get expedition stage 5/6 (thanks anon who told me about the guaranteed humidifer spawn location)>have enough loot banked I could instantly complete every category except provisions if I wanted to empty my stashOh I thought this would be difficult and I'd have to actually grind.
People never expect you to rush with your melee weapon lmao, it always makes them panic.
>>548613221Nice
>>548614341OORAH SOLDIER FUCK THESE TIMMIES UP
>>548613221i'm uninstalling
>>548614314you did grind, it took you since launch to collect that stuff. now you have to turn stuff in then have excess stash value for the post turn-in bonus
>>548615262>since launchGot the game less than 10 days ago. 44 hours.
It sucks so bad that weight is such a big thing in this game. Even with both the weight skills in conditioning and survival trees using anything other than a looting augment feels like shit. Tactical Healing would easily be the best augment if it weren't for it's low weight. 3 ass slots and 3 healing slots to free up all your other utility is massive. Being able to use multiple nades in a fight without having to go into your inventory is huge, but its only got like 50 or 55kg compared to Looting Survivor's 80kg.
>>548614326I gotta figure out how to rig my mic to use the cod zombies audio for whenever I run out of ammo and want to bumrush someone with my axe
>>548615262post turn-in bonus?
>>548614326because they always go for the reload. if there was an additional skill that made melee swinging slightly faster it'd be so much better
>>548616630>>548614326I wish the green skills had a lot more buffs to melee and we had a few melee weapon options. Feels like it would have been a fun sub-style to play.
>>548616961I'm still holding out for an actual weapon-slot melee weapon.
>>548617027Where is my chainsword
>vita spray150 total healing, instant, 10hps, can heal small wounds efficiently; basically BIS healing2 antiseptic, 1 syringe>vita shot50 healing, 4s use time; basically reserved for a bandage + shot combo when you're low3 antiseptic, 1 canisterWhy would I ever use a vita shot
>>548618197retard me mixed up the antiseptic costs, but you get the pointit's 3 for spray, 2 for shot
>>548618197You mixed up the recipes, but another thing to note is that the vita spray can be recycled when empty for 1 antiseptic and 2 canisters
>>548618197When you find it.
>>548618309>if you survive it basically costs 2 antisepticEven furthers my question of vita shot existence.>>548618365Yes but things shouldn't be balanced exclusively by rarity, give them some unique features or make them explicitly more cost effective (just like every other consumable in the game).I think shots would be ok if not for the 2 antiseptic cost, would be better with 1.
>>548618507I have most of the BPs and a retarded amount of money, but I still only use green bandages and shield rechargers because everything else is too inconsistent to obtain or expensive to craft relative to the value. If I play with a full kit I'll bring a vita spray, but I've never really felt it's necessary. Anytime I kill someone and loot a bunch of surge rechargers or occasionally vitashots and blue bandages, I just sell them
>>548618197Spray runs out fast as fuck. 1 healthbar is basically like 80% charge and you cant stack them. It's also loud, the effect is large and visible around corners, and it takes 5 seconds for 50hp vs the shots 4 seconds for 50hp. I always just run 3 shots, 3 blue rechargers, 5 green bandages, 5 green rechargers. You can heal with a bandage and then shoot up for really quick healing. Sure spray comes in handy more when you dont need the full 50 health, but its just a hassle. Anytime I bring a vita spray it runs out in like 5 minutes or someone sees i have it and rushes me
>>548618923I only use vita spray as a panic heal on top of a green bandage that's already applied. If someone gets the drop on me or I hear someone approaching after I killed someone, it's the only way to speed up my healing
>>548618746Green bandages are deceptively good because you get 5 of them as well as the total healing per stack being 175.Blue bandages are 150 per stack and whites are 100.It's better to squeeze blue bandages for their antiseptic and just use greens with a vita spray.Surge chargers suck dick because you don't need to double charge most shields in most situations unless you're specifically fighting an anvil/ferro/osprey user while wearing medium shields.If you're using light light shields they are absolutely redundant.If you're using heavy shields you might as well be using MK3 defender with the integrated one.>>548618923Yes but I can drop my vita spray any time and be combat ready while also already being healed at least partially. If I drop a shot use I don't get any healing at all.Also vita shot and vita spray healing per slot is the same, 150hp.
>>548618923These are all good arguments but keep in mind for a fight you need at least one big healing item to pop that puts you as fast as possible to full health. Being shot, most people rush you, so when you have the time to pop only one healing item it should be one that gives you max health. Doesn't have to be vita, I think vita excels at Teamplay though
>>548619324I think vita shots are good if you have exactly 4 seconds to heal, no more no less.If you have less time then spraying yourself with spray for 2-3s is better.If you have more time then just use bandage + spray.But that exact situation doesn't come up often, spray still seems BIS.
>>548618923>>548619526Vita Spray is for coop vs PvE.
>>548619705You can heal someone downed too yes, unique feature.But we're not talking about that, don't be retarded.
im going to miss my suppressor II bp bros...
>>548619814Dont care. They're for PvE.
>>548619889retard alert
>>548619908At least you admitted it I accept your concession.
when did this game become tranny/nigger slopI took a break for like 2 weeks and now am constantly being shot at by players in every match I play, regardless of map. every other player is some max level faggot or shitskin with hundreds of hours clocked emulating the behavior of their favorite streameris the game cooked already?
>>548619940cope faggot alert
>>548620009Theres no content. People are bored.
>>548618197vita spray shines in topping off the difference>down a lot of hp>take herbal bandage to get you 75% of the way there>grey health gradually closing>use vita spray to push the grey health to the end of the barnow you're healing to 100%
>>548620095Yes that's what i'm saying.Spray > Shots
>game is a pve game that threw in the potential for PVP to keep it exciting >pve isn't exciting on its own>pve starts withering away as people play the (relatively half-baked and not that interesting) pvp insteadshocking...
>>548620009The schizo theory is that the more you shoot at the people the more you'll be put with other kos player lobbies.
>>548620180Game needs more things to grind towards besides the exploiter trials.Or at least fix the fucking economy so good gear gives you something worthwhile and isn't just to dab on the poors by showing them your stash screenshots.
>>548620180everyone ignores ARC at this point and just slaughters the mapimpossible to kill big ARCs anymore as the second you start fighting one 3-4 niggers show up to either wait for you to kill it or home in on your fire position to try and kill you
>>548591193this sounds fun
I'm gonna start trapping the arc corpses after killing them with det nades and waiting for retards to swarm it like vultures.
>>548620256in the current live service ebmm/sbmm climate, this would track i typically don't shoot at anyone, but every now and then a particularly annoying faggot will be camping the exit gate and I'll play a few matches where I just slaughter the lobby. I guess I've done that one too many times
>>548620458Even better, use mines>smoke>run in>place as many mines as you can>make sure to move around and spread them out a bit so it looks like you're going for more parts>leave to hiding spot with popcorn
>>548620458>>548620720>in reality a guy named beanerspic455 rushes up with a torrente and kills you before you can finish killing the arc and is killed by the arc himself
>>548620892can't a man jerk off to his fantasies in peace?
Goddamn, I dont think I can continue baiting pop explosions and ignoring hornets for the rest of the week. Trial system is so fucking retarded. I have to play like a crackhead just to survive running around out of fear of being put in the autist leaderboard.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2576150/LET_IT_DIE_INFERNO/I'll be playing this instead now..
>>548620952no, niggers will ruin everything for youespecially your jerk off fantasies
The game has devolved into absolute dog shit.No one wants to do PvP anymore.Where's the challenge?Everyone just wants to rat and loot 24/7.It's completely boring.If you join a team, your teammates will rush through all the loot areas, so that you can only get leftovers; then they rush for the exit.That's the 3 person team experience.Why spend hours looting?The crafting is complete ass.Why upgrade your weapons?It's not like rats actually participate in any type of combat.No one kills the bosses, they only chip off the legs and loot it.I'd rather play Solitaire than spend another session looting.
>>548620458I need to try this.
>>548621008Mee too->AI Content disclosurewait nevermindwhat the fuckthey are using AI voices and songs now?LET IT DIE had fucking TWO HUNDRED original soundtracks from hundreds of artiststhis is so ass
>>548620974i did a quest because i thought they were safe and it counted as delivering containers and put me into the trials and the top 20 have scores in the 100K range HELP
>>548620180Let me fix that for you>Devs starting making a great PvE game>Give up because they're Swedes and dont like putting in effort >Slap in PvP with 0 thought >People pick up game for its PvE, slowly stop playing because PvP ruins it
>>548621008Looks shit and gay, right up your alley anon
>>548621273>People pick up game for its PvEDamn, some real retards out there, huh?
>>548621359Yeah but we try not to upset the two or three PvPtards here by pointing out its PvE with optional PvP because they spaz out. They get especially mad when you point out PvP is no risk high reward with no skill required at all and PvE is high risk high reward with a fuckton more skill required.
are you idiots seriously still complaining about the pvp in this game? COPE
>join buried city on free loadout to try and get dehumidifiers>see guy get downed by a bastion >he's close to a subway exit>run over and bandage him while calling in the train >someone above asks what happened>they sound like a tranny>guy who was downed explains that he got hit by the bastion >tranny asks if we're leaving>I say he is since we don't have a defib, as I bandage the guy >the second the train shows up the tranny starts mag dumping me with a venator>thirsts the downed guy while I take cover and shoot back >kills me as I tell him to join the 42% 7th game in a row where I'm encountering miserable fags who are camping exits on daytime maps This game is over.
>>548621417>They get especially mad when you point out PvP is no risk high reward with no skill required at all and PvE is high risk high reward with a fuckton more skill required.Absolute truth bomb
>>548621154Looting is the second most important aspect of the game, next to killing robots. That's why it's rewarded with the second highest exp too, though you can probably accumulate more exp from looting in a short time than by killing robots.For me I just want to have the most important blueprints, that's all I care. So that when I do trials, or some other PvE fight in the future I'm ready to come equipped crafting for me and my buddies
>>548621325Perfect since no PvP niggers will be there too
>>548620974>>548621206I don't understand, why does that matter? Does your trials leaderboard position effect your matchmaking or something? Or are you just worried someone is gonna read the leaderboard and think you're actually trying to place?
>finally get to the breach room on blue gate first>open both security lockers>get a wolfpack>hear someone coming>go and hide>wait for them to leave>run back in and check everything>grenade poutch untouched>another wolfpack>put both in safe pocket>just casually running around opening arc probes and other containers>disconnectred>try to relog in>errorfuck this game
>>548621417>Yeah but we try not to upsetI really respect that. Most retards don't know they're retarded and just annoy everybody around them with their idiocy. Good on you.
>>548621273PvP doesn't ruin anything, it's free loadout nigger mentality that ruins it. The reason a pvevp is fun is because of ambiguity. There's no ambiguity with a cod nigger retard who runs up to every fight and starts shooting like it's warzone
>>548621587The moment you get score you get added with 99 other people who scored recently. So a whole new meta game has appeared where you try to get put on with the casuals rather than the minmaxers. Best time to play is close to the end of the week, especially after work hours when all the kids/dads get home to play. If you play first thing when the Trials start, you get nothing but the sweats.
>>548621587playing during low player counts puts you into sweat brackets full of exploiters and discord trio friendsloppers.
>>548621439pvp is finetrannies and niggers just ruin it by being the most miserable faggots imaginable they need to introduce some sort of downside to running around like a call of duty faggot killing everything that moves. I still win most of my fights but this game is getting so soulless and repetitive.
>>548621621>PvP doesn't ruin anythingIf they don't add in PvE boss fights, it will literally become impossible to do them. Its becoming nothing but KOS and therefore impossible to progress.
>>548621480Blue Gate for humidifers
>>548621595>put both in safe pocketwhy are you lying?
>>548621745There's a 100% guaranteed humidifer spawn in buried city.
>>548621765I'm not?You get 2 safe pockets with Looting Mk3 CautiousMoron
>>548621671>they need to introduce some sort of downside to running around like a call of duty faggot killing everything that moves.This is really easy to fix. When you pick a map you pick if you're going in as a Raider or Bandit. Bandits can attack anyone, but wear red arm bands so you can see identify them.
>>548621807make safe pocket plural then you esl faggot
>>548621595>>548621765Why would you even put them in the safe pocket? If you have the BP they're easy enough to make, and even then they're kinda shit. Every time I've tried using one on a bastion or bombardier or rocketeer the little homing missiles decide to go for a wasp 100m away instead.
>>548621886>If you have the BP
>>548620128i can almost here that PvE tranny screaming FRIENDLY FRIENDLY DON'T SHOOT into the mic.
>>548621813>Bandits can attack anyone, but wear red arm bands so you can see identify them.Great job officially turning lobbies into TDM and removing the ambiguity that makes player interactions actually fun and unique in this game.
>>548621736You will immediately see improvement in the PvE aspect if geared people are matchmade against other geared people and free loadouts are matchmade against other free loadouts.PvP niggers can still load into people's matches who try to kill the queen, but they actually risk losing stuff. A free loadout nigger doesn't care about that, because he risks nothing running up to you like a maniac and getting your stuff. That's all the satisfaction he wants.But once again, if geared people matchmake against other geared people, you have a higher chance of PvE niggers getting into the same lobby. Some PvP niggers will be there too, but they play different by risking losing their stuff.PLEASE EMBARK HIRE ME, MAKE FREE LOADOUT MATCHMAKING A THING
>>548621947I love how mad pvp niggers get when I shit on them and call them faggots after they initiate combat by shooting me in the backthe retarded pvp fags who play this game full time are so ass it's hilarious
>>548621973>ambiguity that makes player interactions actually funLet me translate this since you don't want to be honest>Don't do that! Then I wont be able to say im friendly then backstab people! Instead of crying all day maybe just get good, then you won't need to rely on crutches to win PvP fights.
>>548621878fuck off retardits like saying I put them in my hotbar>BUT ACKTUALLY ITS YOUR HOT BAR SLOTSyou're the real esl
>>548621995Here is what I will do1. Load up my inventory with shit to hit the 30/40/50k cap for "high gear boss fights"2. Get into match3. Dump it all in a bush4. Go in and KOS everyone and take their stuff, or dont even bother taking it because im bored anyway and have everything
>>548622031PvP niggers are the worst when it comes to PvP this is factual knowledge
>>548622031No but he really has way more skill than you by sitting behind a corner unexposed while knowing exactly when your guard is down and deleting your health in the time it takes the shit netcode to tell you you're being shot!!!!
>>548622070Congratulations, you turned the lobby hostile against you. If griefing is fun for you go ahead and do it, but if you can't extract with enough loot to keep the cycle going at some point you're at 0 shekels. So you're absolutely able to grief, but you can only do it until you're funds are dried up
>>548622217>Congratulations, you turned the lobby hostile against youYou think I give a shit? I came in to ruin PvE tards fun.
>>548621973>removing the ambiguity that makes player interactions actually funthis shit stopped being remotely fun or interesting like 3 weeks ago. now every interaction is just a 2/3 chance that some faggot sitting in discord with his friends with prox chat turned off is gonna mad dump you the second they see you. getting "betrayed" by someone who pretends to be friendly is just gay and mildly annoying. not saying that anons idea is good (it isn't) but the whole "the strongest weapon in arc raiders is talking" is some reddit chungus retard bullshit. either you run into a nigger/tranny/faggot who says nothing and just immediately attacks, or you run into a white guy who will either announce he wants to kill you or be chill
>>548621417Just uhh... fix PvP loot progression and make PvP about the same lethality as PvE (not getting one-magged from a t1 stitcher would be nice)?Right?
>You can't do X it'll ruin Y!I've never seen such baseless fear mongoring from a general about a game before. WoW has PvPvE, PvE and PvPEve has PvPvE, PvE and PvPAlbion has PvPvE, PvE and PvPTarkov has PvPvE, PvE and PvPL4D2 has PvE and PvPvESouls have PvPvE, PvE and PvPYou are all fragile as fuck pussies. No one is coming to take away your toys. Adding more modes won't do anything bad to Arc and in every game that has/added more modes it made them better and more popular for longer.
just nerf free loadouts and increase ttk and the game is fixed
>>548622484Eve and albion are designed so that you cannot completely avoid hostile areas unless you want to be basically playing in the kiddie pool.>You are all fragile as fuck pussies.irony
>>548622484>the only extraction game that manages to actually make the PvE a non mild nuissance.Just fix pvp and leave the emergent social interactions alone
>>548622484they're only against it because their primary source of enjoyment comes from killing people who don't want to fight them this game is perfect for weak faggots who struggle to compete or stand out in any area of their life, and they don't want it to change
>>548622531give reasons
>>548622325Good luck surviving, those PvE niggers are gonna handhold the entire 30 minutes of the lobby
>>548622484Actually to double down on the Eve thing, even with safe-space PvEs could get griefed in EVE because you could scan down their battle sites and ninja-salvage all their loot.And when they get mad and retaliate you've forced hostile and can fuck them up.Also you can still shoot anyone anywhere, even in safe space.
>>548622325i bet you regularly get absolutely dunked on and get really, really mad whenever it happens.
>>548622070Easiest solution to that is only having it count equipped weapons/augments/shields only.
>>548622683>PvP gear risk/reward is fucked beyond consumables>PvP TTK is too low for a TPP shooter>PvP is too lethal compared to PvE, ruining it in the processThat's uh... it.
PvE-only mode is never happening.It would take a day for optimal strategies to be formed, and then these soulless fags would just do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again to get rich for no reason.It's not going to happen.
>>548622484They should try free loadout matchmaking first, if that doesn't help they can put strict PvE and PvP modes. But honestly we already have a PvP mode it's called Stella montis. It's basically a free loadout magnet too.
>>548622865>get rich for no reasonbro I have 50 hours in the game and already have more wealth and resources than I know what to do with. not wanting to interact with soulless, joyless pvp faggots is a very normal and reasonable stance.
>>548622943>They should try free loadout matchmaking first>Split the playerbase for no reasonNo, just balance shit properly
>>548622865Why are you getting mad over people getting rich, there's like barely anything important to buy with coins. I'm already at 400k and I don't even farm trinkets, it's super quick to get a lot of money
>>548623039>>548622993>completely dodging the actual argument
>>548622865What optimal strategy you just shoot the big bitch until she dies it's fun you should try it sometimes.
>>548623030>MUH PLAYERBASE SPLITYou're an immense faggot if you think having a split of geared people towards cod nigger retards free loadout spammers is having any sort of bad influence on the health of the game. I don't know why you need free loadouts THAT BAD in your lobby. Either you want to be a free loadout nigger spammer yourself trying to grab other people's gear or you gain satisfaction killing them for no other reason than killing them. In any way you're a massive pussy and a huge faggot
>>548621595>finally log back in>safe pockets actually saved them>>548621878unfortunatly I am so used to every single fag in this game calling it their butthole, I just use the term Safe Pocket singularly, I refuse to say i'm shoving in things in my ass, but I will capitulate and say that is just one pocket even if it's mutlipleLike you don't say>yea I shoved all these wolfpacks in my buttholes
>>548623194>pseudo sbmm instead of making the loot matter in PvPLol, fag.
If Tarkov can add a PVE mode than Arc Raiders will absolutely add a PVE map event. They could even do a wave survival mode where you have to protect one of the tube entrances with like 20 other people. You fags are genuinely joyless people.
>>548623082Money has no worth in this game is the counterargument you stupid dumb nigger. There is no black market to buy quest items or any other meaningful stuff. Most of the stuff you buy is important for PvE, which has no implications on your poor unprotected PvP soul
Still do not understand why these people bought a PvP game. One of the worst unspoken plights on the video game industry is the average retard's sheer inability to comprehend that a game might not be for them.
>>548623292A PvE EVENT is fine, a separate PvE mode is not.
>>548623176Yeah bro sounds riveting. The game would be dead in a week without hostile players to make it interesting.
i dont pvp at all but i would immediately stop playing if they removed pvp because the only fun part of the game is avoiding people trying to kill youpve only people are completely fucking delusional and would finish the game in 4 hours and never play it again after complaining its too easy and boring
>>548623267It's not skill based matchmaking you dumb fucking nigger, don't you realize that. You're a fucking cod uncle nigger that is scared behind any sort of matchmaking because you want to keep pubstomping like in mw2. You really are a massive faggot that hasn't grown up since 2009, and you should genuinely kill yourself because you don't have any meaningful argument against free loadout matchmaking
>>548623294Why are you agressively agreeing with me?>to get rich for no reasonBraindead.
>>548623396>gbmmK, one letter change for your sperging ass.>ignores that loot should matter in extraction shooterNow that's retarded.
>>548622817>no utility>no meds????
>>548623082All I'm hearing is>OH NO! MY VICTIM-WEIGHT RETARDED AUTISTIC RAPE-CATTLE THAT I EXPLOIT FOR EZ WINS WILL BE GONE!! ALL I WILL HAVE LEFT IS OTHERS LIKE ME TO FIGHT AGAINST!!!
>>548623618Can you un-sperg your statement for once? Make a fucking stance instead of incessantly coping.
>>548623194>you want to be a free loadout nigger spammer yourself trying to grab other people's gearYes. Make gear more relevant and let me use dogshit to take their great shit. Half the fun of extraction shooters is going in as a broke bitch and coming out geared.
>>548623730>let me use dogshit to take their great shitthis nigga gets it
>>548623487There's shouldn't be gear based matchmaking is the point. You put in all kinds of geared people against all other kinds of geared people. You ONLY filter the free loadout spammers because they fundamentally don't understand the game. That's fine. Just let them keep playing in the special needs kids room together. Everyone else, rats, extraction campers etc are all in another matchmaking. But ALL of them risk losing their stuff.
>>548609971I feel like they must have some weird cultural think where they exalt how kids in middle school would share bullshit rumors about how video games work.>OMG did you hear about how in pokemon if you surf past the SS-Anne there's a hidden truck. If you do some shit with the gamecorner you can get some truck driver to return and find the keys that he lost. Then he'll move the truck and underneath you'll find a pokeball with MEW in it. Totally for reals.So now we've got retards saying shit like how they think that the strong ankles perk has an unlisted benefit that lets you drop down further and still be allowed to roll, and how it's totally letting them make sick escapes.
>>548623564TTK is <1.5s. Which quick-slot item are you using in 1s to turn the gank around?
>do naked loadout for fun>this might be more fun that freekitting
>>548623838What? No, the varied social interactions is what I've never had in decades of gaming. Leave them alone but make them actually play the game genre and teach then that loot is important and not whatever the fuck this dogshit is with the current economy.
>>548623618>MY VICTIM-WEIGHT RETARDED AUTISTIC RAPE-CATTLEPvEbros...you really gotta think about yourselves better than this...
imagine a gang of cute girl raiders teaming up against you in solos...
>>548623934The only correct answer is to trigger nade both yourself and your ganker in the smoke cloud from your mk2 tactical.
It's fun when you queue duos and a team that appears as another duo is apparently a trio that has their third spawn behind you or some shit and take all your stuff cool game thanks.
>>548624143Respectable
>>548624214isn't that against the rules?I know every br forbids teaming and ban people for doing so
>>548620562I've never slaughtered a lobby, but I have successfully fought back 2-3 times in a match before. I wonder if successfully defending myself has doomed me for banishment to the shadowrealm?
>>548624270No like we literally queued into trios as a duo but it looked like a duo fight at first. The circumstances were just nonsensical and retarded.
>>548624134>Cute girls throwing showstoppers at you over and over while laughing at how you squirm>Cute girls forcing you to drop all your gear before downing you anyway>Cute girls putting a defib on the ground and making you bark to get revivedIt's not fair...
>freekit spamming pvptards go ballistic when you start "teaming" to fight them off
>>548624015The point is these people don't understand the game.They will keep spamming free loadouts because they're retarded.They will play their arc raiders battle royale until they're getting tired of the meat grinder.Then they will actually think to themselves, hmmm let's try using some of the gear I used.Since they use gear they fought over and have to risk it their mentality is completely changed. It's because a free loadout nigger is not part of the prisoners dilemma, he has literally nothing to lose so he just spams fights. There's no varied social interaction between cod nigger retard who spams free loadout and a geared person.But let everyone risk their loot for lobbies that give you some benefits, like never making you start late, and then this will change. The prisoners dilemma can only work if both sides have something to lose
I wanted to wake up early to play some more arc raiders but I overslept...
>>548623934>fights are just about standing still and dps checking eachotherloser lol
>>548623995>found this in the ssme hose
>>548624508So just... make them easy to kill until they learn?
why the fuck does the kettle have such a high fire rate cap
>>548623934Situationally a smoke, barricade, jolt mine, or door blocker could do it if the stars align just right. But you're completely right that in solos it's 90% a matter of who shoots first regardless of gear or equipment.
>>548622865It took less than a day for optimal PvP to get found out.>just shoot first. LMAO.
>>548624604They will leave the game faster than you can say "I need my free kills I need them so bad I'm shit at PvP so I need easy kills to feel good about myself"
>>548624542TPP means fights are indeed about one participant starting it standing still and unready to react, yes.What are you going to do, dodge-roll and then deploy a mobile barricade? A door wedge? The interaction times for just about everything is too long to be used reactively. If you manage to make it to cover to start lining up grenade throws then the ganker has already failed the skill check.
90% of the playerbase has a victim complex.>Guy runs around corner>I gun him down>He whines about how he was 'friendly'>I stabilize him and tell him to crawl to extract>"I don't know where it is">It's literally right next to us>"I'm not gonna make it wah wah">Stands right in the middle of no where instead of continuing to crawl>"Well, I guess you got what you wanted" "Hope you're happy"Holy shit pvetards.
>>548624628the devs can't fire that fast so they think we can't either
>>548624789>faggots who bought the game cry that it's not the game they actually wantHD2 shows what those kinds of retards can do to a game if devs listen to them, I want them out. I see no downside.
>>548624628They have zero experience balancing a PvP game. (the finals don't count.)
>>548624764humans aren't predictable.scripted NPCs are.keep trying pup.
>>548625096ARC AI can do some pretty funny shit sometimes, it catches me off guard.
>>548625096You're ignoring the third person camera allowing the aggressor to freely pre-aim to receive absolutely MASSIVE headshot bonuses. Someone post that 0.3 second venator execution in the extraction train webm.
I genuinely will be worried about this game's future if the first balance patch doesn't nerf the stitcher
Is there a patch this week?
>>548625502thursday, surelyenjoy your minor bug fixes and slight weapons nerfs on guns that didn't need nerfing
>>548625096The arc ai is way more unpredictable than any free loadout nigger that just runs up to me to kill me. These niggers are like suicide bombers
Arc raiders really is the grocery cart test or "What would you feel like if you didn't eat breakfast"
Where do I find the Extended Light Mag II blueprint?
>>548625096You OBVIOUSLY don't play arc raiders
>>548626482N I G H T R A I DIGHTRAID
>>548626883Yeah, but where? Apartments has been disappointing.
>>548626482i just run around buried city, again the pharmacy in on the south east side that needs to be breached into has been generous to me with all sorts of guns/gun part/mod bps
>>548627094And did you find light mag 2?
>>548626964drawers drawers drawers
>>548627234yes ive light mag 2 and 3
>>548627368I haven't been having luck with the pharmacies lately. Feel like they nerfed the loot there. Also the one by the extract (the one you mentioned) is always looted quickly because it's right by the metro and you can enter it without breaching. Felt pretty silly to breach it, put down a door blocker and discover 2 other people inside.
>>548627460>breach it>2 people inside????? it has no other entrances besides one way windows that need to be opened from the inside, i guess you could clip in still with stuff people used for key doors before the hotfix but i have never seen anyone do that shit to that pharmacy.
>>548627807It actually does. I went around the building after it happened and found a way inside without breaching. Can't remember what it was, but you can check for yourself. It might be an oversight on the devs' end.
>>548627807Piazza Arbusto only has the one entrance, but the other pharmacy next to the extract in the yellow zone has a window you can drop into from the roof and that one is a pvp hellscape, but tends to have way more loot than the Arbusto one. The arbusto one is sleeper though, a lot of times I can go there at 10 minutes and it will still be unbreached.But remember door blocks look exactly like that breach on the wooden doors so someone could have gone in and then doorblocked it.
toggle aim status?
>>548598952Just realize that loot is incredibly easy to find in this game and once you get an anvil BP the game becomes trivial because everything is so cheap to craft
>>548628839Arbusto is the one i always hit since other one you mentioned is basically always cleaned out. Arbusto has been generous with attachments, their bps and even 2 Tempest bps over the past week or so
>>548602248I always agro the one in Dam and Blue Gate before hitting the button. Like the other anon said, it's basically a free body guard
>turned voice off because going through an edgy lonewolf phase>wanna go to Arbusto>see some guy on the roof nearby, do the greet voice line>go my way>turn around and he's running after me>magdump him>free kitIt's much better to kill people with voice off because they can't bitch at you. Or if they do, you wouldn't hear them.
>>548629416ive taken to just killing anyone who doesnt respond in voice, earlier some motherfucker was watching me from behind a pillar so i asked him if he was alright and cool no response in 2 seconds i just slid out and full mag kettled that motherfucker
are these weapons from the queen or whatever, I never loot that thing fast enough
>>548624530>oversleeping on a weekdayuseless parasite
>>548630217what weapons
>>548630217>>548630346forgot pic
is this game playable with controller or will i just get shredded by anyone using keyboard mouse?
>>548630367BPs for two of them are from Harvester puzzle. Last one drops from the Matriarch.
Finally, my first BP in like 3 days.
>>548630367yeah other anon answered already, they use queen reactors and matriarch reactors as well. unless you give a shit about crafting those legendary weapons complex gunparts can just be broken down into simple ones i think
I don't think I've ever once been killed, it's always some no mic EBT warrior hiding in a room waiting 25 mins to hear a drawer open.
>>548631258killed from the front*
I can't click heads to save my life
>>548622620>Eve and albion are designed so that you cannot completely avoid hostile areas unless you want to be basically playing in the kiddie pool.Yes you can. Shut the fuck up.
whats the best thing to do with the snaphook now that I have the blueprint
>>548631883Get on to roofs and snipe everything and everyone
>>548630321imagine unironically wageslaving lmeow
>>548631930I kind of want to jump on a rocketeer
>>548599582ubisofts last good game
>>548631807wrong
>>548632060Also valid, because when it throws you off you can get back on with the rope.
>>548632060>>548632253supposedly you can occasionally jump in place on the rocketeer and it resets the timer for when it throws you off
is the pharmacy on Buried City the only pseudo-keyroom in the game?
I'm not here to judge anyone for playing the way they want to play (except the people who lie and manipulate, yall need therapy) but whenever I even think of indiscriminately shooting someone I get a pit in my stomach. Do the people who do this on the regular just not have empathy for other players? Do you need to justify to yourself why you enjoy gunning someone down who had no intention of bothering you? Or when they're focusing on Arcs and aren't even looking your way? Or do you just ignore that human beings are on the other side and just see anything happening on your PC screen as entertainment and moral/ethical implications be damned?Like seeing the jusfifications "this is a PvP game" or "I spent my $40 too" seem like copouts to treating people however you please just because you can.
>>548632667you might be q redditor
>>548632667What i choose to do is almost entirely what i feel like doing when i press play, do i want to be gandhi and walk around picking berries or am i gonna be a kos ape and full send the second i see anything with a pulse? Being able to decide is part of the fun. Whether or not this pays out and i extract or get blindsided or die in a duel is entirely irrelevant. The truth is it's a videogame and i dont tie emotional investment to pixels or random people i have never met.
>>548632467That would make sense the AI isn't smart
>>548629541Deserved lol
I dont have a problem with free loadout and honestly if you die to one you are just trash but I wish they were more random you always spawn with one usable, a shield charger and bandage and the same 4 guns fucking boringlet me spawn with a snaphook and 20 impact nades or spawn with no shield but an almost broken tempest with only 1 mag worth of ammoor no gun but 6 defibs
>>548631883Get the power rod blueprint so you can craft snap hooks reliably
>548632667Low effort bait, anyone who thinks this post is genuine is a retard
>>548632601No
>>548633843that would be terrible, you've replaced free kits with a slot machine for people to pull a million times until they get a stash full of high tier gear.
>>548633843Free loadouts are fine as is, but they're genuine apes that play this game like a battle royale. Which is fine they should do that, but just let the apes fight against each other. PvP is literally what they want
>>548634240>until they get a stash full of high tier gearand thats somehow different from what we have now?
Did they buff the drop rate on this or something? This is the 3rd dupe, probably 5th not considering ones I sold.
Finally, the general has died.
>>548637949Enjoy the free kit nigger
So is anyone here NOT doing the Expedition?
>>548638809He wasn't a free kit though.>>548638872Me.
>>548638872I'm donating all the shit and then waiting to see what it's like for the people who did it before I make my decision. I may also find someone to help me blueprint trade to myself if I do decide to. I have a lot of good dupes.
>>548637949dead generaldead game
>>548638872im still thingken about it, might not but i have like 3 blueprints only that i dont even care about
>>548603053>highest value BP available right nowIt's worthless.
>>548639214We all leave at the same time. Can't do that Chuddy.
>>548603949It comes with caveats so a savvy player can play around it. Yet another depth layer completely absent from this pile of dung.
>>548639529I'm waiting for them to add a trading system or an auction house of some kind.
>>548600117fyi you can trade the free loadout augment for a green one with the trader
Gotta say, after 155 hours I enjoy the game a bit more with voice off. That way I can blast anyone when it's advantageous to me without having to listen to them bitch at me. I mean, I've done the same when I had my mic hooked up. Now I can do my damage feats in peace.
>>548639921but listening to other player's pleas and bitching is half the fun of killing someone
>>548639690As someone who's been trading BPs, it's worthless before community comes up with a currency. Right now everybody wants the same 5 BPs, the rest is trivial to get.
>thinking BPs matter when it is always more advantageous to do the expedition
>>548640172We don't even know what the expedition does yet lmao
>>548640214Extra stash space, extra skill points. Permanently. Meaning if you keep doing them you are always better off than the player who omitting doing them at all
>>548639535No, you get like a week to do it
>>548640336Regardless of the specific timing, I wouldn't be surprised if they make it so players can't learn blueprints from before their expedition
>>548640315The (cutely named) CM on Discord saying it's permanent doesn't mean much until we get official confirmation. Also it doesn't matter if you get more skill points because you'd still get melted by a freeshitter with a Stitcher all the same.
>>548640315>permanentlyAre you retarded? They expressly said that they were not permanent. You only get 5 more points, forever, and you have to keep expeditioning every few months to keep it. You don't stack points until you can fill the entire skill page. 5 more points for a temporary time is a nothingburger, the skills suck.
>>548640315>Extra stash spaceDoesn't impact combat.>extra skill pointsDoesn't impact anything.I'm looking forward to stomping those who fell for the meme with my full pink gear.>>548640487Embark CM just said on Discord it's permanent, but even plebbit aint buying it. Better yet, if it doesn't work properly since it's a last minute change and bonuses end up being not permanent despite the devs saying otherwise that's gonna be fucking hysterical.
>>548640487CM cleared up that skillpoints and stash increases are permanent, it's the other small shit like "improved weapon repair efficacy" and "xp boost" that are not.
>>548640461There would be no way to facilitate that. Splitting the playerbase's trading capabilities forever would be super fucking retarded.
Lets say you get an exclusive outfit for leaving for the expedition, and it's kino as fuck. Would you do it?
>>548640761yesbut looking at the trials outfit, you just know the expedition cosmetic is going to be just as trash
>>548640720trading is not endorsed by the devsit simply makes the most sense for them to do to mitigate a rich get richer situation
>>548640642>I'm looking forward to stomping those who fell for the meme with my full pink gear.I'm not doing the memxpedition either, but really? Gray gear is perfectly viable in PvP against any rarity gear.
>>548640651>trusting a discord tranny janny over what is literally printed in the game"Until the next expedition departs...""...more stash space...""...extra skill points"
>>548640898Any pics of the trials outfits?
>>548641082genuinely looks like a clown
>>548639019The joke is that everyone says this when dying
>>548641058Yeah I wasn't even going to bother responding to something that retarded
>>548641071>discord tranny>the fucking bitch that posts official site updatesk
>LOL IT'S JUST A FREEKIT BRO OK, and? I was defending myself and you got fucked up. I wasn't ratting for your gear. What is the point of telling me this?
>>548641339Anyone can post patch notes. Usually it's some fucking intern. You think devs are out here writing blogposts and patch notes on their websites? Devs are making the game and maybe tweeting every now and again, for every game.
Make an Il Toro IV and you'll never have to worry about a freekit again
>>548641449Bitches are mad. Either it was a free kit wanting to loot and he's mad he got killed for nothing or it's a PvP nigger that acts as if he never wanted your gear in the first place
>>548641662What about anything further than 15 feet away
>>548641058Fine but even without being hyperbolic, there's a difference between having all the crafting mats you're ever gonna need and not having them, same for green attachment BPs, upgraded workstations, all that shit. If you keep losing your gear often(which you might depending on how prevalent kosing gets at that point in time) you'll have to resort to running suboptimal gear, further exasperating the problem.
Best way to mitigate extract campers on night raids?
>>548642237Carry a bunch of light impact nades and blast indiscriminately in every dark corner and little camping spot you know of in the area
>>548642237Don't do night raids with your own gear
>>548642237Fifty thousand smoke nades
Strats for carriables trial? I got a couple but they aren't too consistent.
>>548642664Camp a Field Depot and let those geared losers bring them to you LMAO
>>548642237showstoppers
>>548642664Blue gate electromagnetic storm, solve the fort puzzle. After that you only need one more field depot.>>548642781Literally nigger tier behavior, congrats
>>548643263Thanks. Here are my strats in case anyone wants to try them>Water towers at Dam, there's a box spawn in each tower, another outside by the container, another at substations>Domes at Dam, plenty of boxes inside the domes, you'll have to kill the bastion but that might be a plus if you didn't do the other trial yet
>>548588081What if you glitch through, then immediately open the door from inside?
>>548643591you need a key to open it from the inside now I think
>be me, sociopath>shoot people in the back, say friendly then betray them, kill people on extract, basically be an asshole with no remorse>hear 2 people fighting>easypickings.jpg>wait for flare to go off to 3rd party them>one of them is reviving the other, realize they are both girls>ohnoyoudont.png>shoot my free kit gun at her, she chucks a grenade that hits my face instakills my small shield and downs me>ohfuck>she finishes reviving the other girl as I beg them to help me and that it was just a prank>they decide to team up and bully me for trying to third party them>they take turns, while one is reviving me, the other one immediately shoots me and downs me>then they proceed to intensely teabag my face over and over while bullying me and laughing in voice, all while I'm begging them to stop>finally they get bored and leave me to die>realize I had a boner thorough the ordeal
If you see a post with an anime picture just hide it. It's all made up nonsense and a desperate plea for attention. Even catfags have higher standards
>>548643954I'm gonna rape you you posted an anime girl I bet you're an adorable faggot
>>548644178>Pedos are mentally illYou dont say
>>548643954Based, PvEchuds could never get that much attention from two girls.
anime website
>>548641826which freekit loadout can even do shit from 15m away? and dont say ferro, you have 2 business days between shots to do shit
>>548644178>It's all made up nonsense and a desperate plea for attentionYeah, like everyone else.
>>548644605Most of you don't larp as some sort of sexless virgin faggot.
>>548644919Yeah, most anons don't have to larp.
haven't played the game in days, have absolutely nothing to do right now and still don't feel like booting it up
Did you guys solve the free kit problem or are we still fighting about it?
>>548645034Maybe you could fill out some job applications
>>548645034Didn't even do trials? You got all the blueprints?
>>548645034Its good to take breaks. I didnt play yesterday either.
>>548645128We did. Embark did not. So the fight continues.
why can't we have interesting quests like this?why must all be always against ARC enemies?
Are you guys gona change your toon if you send your current one on the expedition? Im thinking of role playing as a sexy bisexual medic next season desu
>>548645128FreeKitMatchmaking
>>548645219nice try jew>>548645234no point in doing them, got all the blueprints i needed or wanted and rarely even used any of it because stitcher 2 wrecks anything anyway plus the wipe comes this month
>>548645559You're a retard then, Wolfpack blueprints made arc damage this week super easy. Even got another BP for that
>>548645486because embark has not yet decided if they want the game to focus on pve or pvp so they don't want to encourage pvp, yet the only thing that matters in the game is pvpit's all very schizo game design
>>548645508>change your toonRaider -> Customization -> Appearance
>>548645727>Heh... Only PvP matters... I upgraded all my workbenches without looting anything myself! I'm so cool!
>>548645909and why did you upgrade your workbenches?it all returns to stitcher pvp one way or the other
>>548645639i dont need more blueprintsi got basically everything besides vita spray bp which i dont care about anywayin like the first week i got anvil, venator, torrente, mod bps, wolfpack bps, mines and grenades, showstoppers etclevel 75, expedition done, all quests done, trials are annoying and tedious and people are competing over that with rat behaviour aswell, doesn't give you anything besides an outfit that makes you look like this, like all arc raiders cosmetics
Which outfit do you guys see the most? Deluxe edition with that hat is what I see most often desu
>>548646234the ryder outfit from the dick
>>548645960for wolfpack and raiders hatch key
>>548645960To craft wolfpacks for trials and getting more blueprints lol. To craft power rods so I can spawn in naked in dam at night with a power rod up my ass and gear up in the locked power room key. To be able to bounce back fast from having gear lost, as weapons that matter are relatively easy to craft>>548646053Agreed after you have the blueprints you want trials don't make sense. It's still a good way to complete blueprints for me though
>the entire endgame centers around expeditions, and hinges on a single cosmetic that we don't even know what it looks like which could just be a fucking backpack accessory
>>548646569I have a bad feeling its the brown square backpack in the pic explaining expeditions.
>>548646234The Bungulator one constantly. I kos those fucks
>>548642328>dark cornernot with my RTX Dynamic Vibrance, heh
>just found out that backpack with the lantern has been giving away my position in night raids
>>548646569Its 100% this >>548647493
>>548648684Yeah I found that out real quick, same for the radio backpack with a green line, that shit is super bright
somehow i have Aphelion, Jupiter and Equalizer BPs without really investing too much time into killing the big Arcbut after testing the weapons they really make it fun to kill Arc in general, so I'm gonna keep using them and farming partsthere's absolutely 0 chance I wipe now, even if i have fuck all for BPs these guns just make everything else obsolete bc of funi fucking hate how this game is designed and planned
reminder
I just gave all of my keys to the expedition. Even the pink ones. Was this a bad call? They were just sitting and taking up inventory space.
>>548648951You're making me wanna try the harvester event man. No way in hell I'll try to fight the matriarch with people just ratting the core for the bp
>>548649802literally what else is there to do in this game bro? even if you collect all the BPs you're gonna be FOMOd into wiping it all awaythe ARC are the only content that's properly developed and requires a minimum amount of prefrontal cortex utilizationyou can fake nice the main group killing Matriarch and asking for them to leave you the blueprint, most ppl farming Queen/Matriarch already have everything their release
>>548650071i'm high on caffeine so lot of typos there, my bad
>>548649697they are basically worthless so yes
>>548649802>Take in a green bag, shield and Anvil with +100 rounds>Find the group, stay with them and shoot the big bad>Once its on fire, get as close as you can without dying/losing cover>Once it starts exploding rush the coreYou'll be surprised how many people are pussies and wait until the thing is dead and rotting before going in. All you want is the BP after all, the rest is just garbage.
>>548648951Yeah they made bps too hard to find. It takes a lot of fun out of the game
>>548650418they literally should all be ARC-related drops or a serious of quests of ARC-related eliminations, it makes 0 sense that players have to fucking rat it out to put a single item on their ass while completely avoiding the main enemy of the game
>>548650330>the rest is garbage >you need the Queen/Matriarch parts to make those weapons
>>548650826you get a whole legendary weapon out of a single leg armor drop, i've had to sell queen/matriarch reactors constantly bc i can't keep more useless shit in my stash
You know, something I haven't seen people mention about this game is rhe complete lack of hit markers. All of your damage done in this game for both Arc and Raiders is purely audio visual with actual mechanical feedback. Why is the industry afraid of this?
>>548651204It's genuinely hard to create feedbackBasically, hitmarkers are a crutch
Post >yfw that music track that plays after getting home from a kino raid
I have literally never seen the Arc clip through the environment in this game. Not even the Leapers. That tech is some incredible stuff
>people still don't know about that zipline near Research&Administration on Dam BattlegroundsI hit it literally every time after the breath room
>>548651885they do, Queens can stomp kill you inside those spawning bunkers that have diagonal stairs on Dam, specifically the one near the Harvester and Hatchtheir legs clip through the upper stairs near the roof thingy, been stomped plenty times there
I'm at the last part of the expedition and I only have like 1/2 maybe 1/3 of the resources I need. Do you think I still have enough time to finish?
>>548652250pov?
>>548652721definitely, we got 2 weekstechnically 3 since you can work the whole expedition week and turn it in before the last day
>>548652753It's just the one that goes to the roof. Raider containers spawn up there. It's on top of those concrete columns by the catwalks
>>548651592
>people complaining about the outfits in the game>even though they're at least thematic and cohesive to the world and it's art style>these people forgot how bad things could be
>>548650071I'll never wipe man, blueprint grind is way too ass for me to even think about wiping. Literally any other grind in this game is acceptable but blueprints suck major dick.For matriarch I'll try what >>548650330 said and just do tons of damage with anvil and the shitton of Wolfpack's I have lying around. I tried killing matriarch and queen before but I got fucked up lol. It was fun. I just don't want to be the retard investing tons of resources just for another rat to shove the blueprint up his ass
Is this technically an indie game? If so, how embarrassing for EA and Activision. To get brutally mogged in the same month they released their annual cashcow sloppa
they need to add ERP and modding support to the game
>>548651204Often this is an issue with readability, the studio lacks the talent to give affordances to damage so they cheap out and add health bars, floating damage numbers, etc.
>>548653841This should be a PvP only mechanic
>>548653826Not really, embark is owned by nexxonIt is especially embarrassing for EA because the entire studio is basically ex-DICE mogging them
dam player count fell off a cliff
>>548653841what's stopping you from running up to some random dude right now and ERPing?
selling this shit bc i dont have stash or use for anything anymore :(( what do i even do with millions of coins
what do i even do to get to 75 asap? i want my final achievement to fuck off before reset day
>>548654474Recycle into exodus modules if you can craft snap hook modules or some other shit
So with everything we know about the skill tree and the security locker nerf, I think this will be my post Expedition skills. The yellow numbers are where I'm putting the extra 5 points
>>548654474ARC cells are literally not used for anything anyway, so yes, sell them
>my honest reaction to getting ratted yet again
>>548654891do they ban people like this in this game?
>>548653276some of the outfits are cute and you can make a good looking femoid so that's all I need
>>548654696And if I decide to keep security locker for whatever reason
>>548654998You shouldn't have advertised Nier Automata on EA's platform.
>>548605758I've played for about 200 hours and I've come across one guy who teleported out of a room but was not hostile.One or two extremely fishy situations that seemed like aimbot or people knowing exactly where you were even though you never moved out of perfect cover.Been shot at 2 or 3 times by people inside walls.I have probably been killed maybe a dozen times by people using kettles with macros. Yeah I don't think you can click full auto speed with a perfect repeatable cyclic rate.>50 aimbot/wallhack combo usersUnless they're match making you with much high KD players which obviously would increase the pool of cheaters, you're probably over exaggerating.
>1 month since release>people already glad the general is dead and hoping the game dies too asapwhat causes this phenomenon?
>>548654651pls halp
>they confirmed the skill point increase and stash size increase are permanent
>>548656969So you'd be silly not to do the expeditions if you plan on playing the game long term
>>548657052Blueprints > skill points, at least until they fucking do something about the BP farm
>>548657052Sounds like it>keep all your "progres" and blueprintsor>reset it at all for a small bonus
>>548654651Just loot containersOpening a container is 200xp. You don't have to wait for the loot reveal. Just open, close immediately. Also, you still get xp checking a container somebody else looted. So just run around spam opening every container on the map until the timer is up. You can extract too, but I think the safe return bonus is less than you'd make by staying on the map until you die
>>548654696>>548655249This is optimal as far as I'm concerned
>>548657254You should spoiler this, you're gonna scare a PvP nigger with this if he reads it
>>548656969>no quest progressoh fuck me not this again
>>548657479IS THAT? PVE GAMEPLAY IN MY PVP GAME?
>>548621621You're delusional if you've played the game and haven't come to the realization that all of the balancing was done around PVE.So in a way PVP is kind of ruining it because the devs were lazy retards that didn't balance for it
>summit>shroud>ninja>surefour>hutch>peanut>all get praised endlessly and fawned over by people while being mostly KOS rushersWhy do these people get praised, but when a smaller streamer or just some random person goes around bumrushing (not camping, not acting like a little bush rat, etc) they get called the worst names in the world and told they are ruining the game? For instance look at BradQuackson, every video he uploads his comment section is full of salt. But he does the same thing as these big streamers, just goes into lobbies and goes around trying to kill people.
>>548653826it's funny because everyone expected Arc to flop releasing between CoD and BF.
>>548658610PvEplayers are betas that simp for anybody whose popular and are afraid to openly criticize anybody people seem to like so they only chimp out on nobodys that don't have an audience to make fun of them. It's that simple.
There is something wrong with the Venator, it shouldn't be that ammo efficient if it uses medium ammo.
>>548658610It's somewhat like Walmart crushing small businesses that may be better but don't want competition. Most of those names you listed have no real character and are just boring people but just have contracts.
>loot deadlines all the time>never once looted a pulse mine, seeker grenade, or the explosive trail oneWhat gives? Are these things even in the game?
>>548660587Trailblazer is definitely bugged. The other two are just sleeper. It takes a while for people to "discover" that utility is strong.
>watch Wings play this>he hates it one minute in
>>548661141Sounds like a faggot to me
>>548661471He said Redsec is way better
>>548661559Buy an ad
>>548658341What do you mean. The focus for content lies within looting and killing arcs, yes. They added the extraction part to make it more fun. Which is ok, but it's ruined by a fuckton of people that can spawn into any game without risking anything and benefit from people that either hunt other players or those that hunt arcs/do quests. So the obvious solution is to put the cod niggers that exclusively run free loadouts into their own queue. There they can fight over the few blueprints on a map that no one can safepocket as much as they want, while player hunters that risk their loadout and pve people that want to kill bosses or do quests are separated from them
>>548659235It's supposed to consume two bullets per trigger pull
>>548654651>>548657254Go to Stella. Carry a fuel cell to the seed vaults. Kill the 500 ticks and open the billion seed boxes.
>go to extract >three fuel canisters blatantly sitting by the button Do rats think I'm stupid?
>>548663429They want to farm le funny tiktok clips. You'd be surprised that eventually some retard will fall for it
I'm glad some streamer audiences are like>fuck youbut there are still some fags that go>OMG YOUR X STREAMER>LET ME DEFIB YOU IM GOING TO BE FAMOUS
new thread doko
ded generalded game
even the baker dropped this shit
>>548663641Pure cringe. I would show no mercy. Especially when I've seen clips of Shroud and Peanut literally murdering groups of people who are clearly just trying to kill the Matriarch/Queen. No wonder there is so many rats. Their audience wants to imitate that nonsense
>>548665291That's the only reason I watch that peanut guy anymore, it's nice having someone playing arc raiders on the other screenBut I got to sit down and pause a sec when he starts getting his shit pushed in by a clearly better team, even after being a toxic shitbag and attacking first
I guess we really were fotm slop after all...
