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[PoE 1]
>Dead league: Keepers of the Flame
https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers
>3.27 Keepers patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3869068
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7J


[PoE 2]
>The Third Edict / Rise of the Abyssal
https://pathofexile2.com/edict
>Ongoing 0.3.1 patch potes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212
>December 4th livestream & Dec 12th free weekend
https://pathofexile2.com/freeweekend


Last map: >>548578429
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First for Div altar, what's the matter anon? You can't pull 9 div out of a single map? Are you, dare I say it, a nonWhite?
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PoE2 = Art
poowun = goyslop casino
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>>548664507
had 2 this league
probably won't get more cause i'm just bossing now
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>>548664507
>9
its over.
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>>548664507
>Just 9
And you see this how many times in a league? Christ.
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One shot in HC to something that probably shouldn't have done that much damage
It was really undergeared though I guess idk
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yea im using wine of the prophet as my non magic flask on my heister. stay broke niggaz
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>>548665047
thank you for your patronage
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>>548665238
i didnt patron shit
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>>548664941
Post your screenshot then you conquered mutt
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>>548664535
SUBMIT HERETIC
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there is literally nothing wrong with playing Deadeye
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>he is a jingakh
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Druid is going to break records!

1 milly concurrent. We'll finally beat Lost Ark.
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no 2h swords no play simple as
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i care more about new acts than new classes ngl
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>>548666871
i care about 2h swords more than either
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>>548667006
swords are gay
ur gay
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my sword is only one handed...
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is reddit right about hating IIR?
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>>548667253
yes
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>>548667253
yes
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>>548667253
Yes, and it's a crime they haven't totally removed it from the modpool.
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>>548667083
no, it's a simple concept really
they add 2h swords or i don't play their game i was gifted for free
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>>548667253
iir is good if the game has such challenging content that its a meaningful choice to include iir in your build and even then it should only be a minor increase in loot
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>>548667253
no
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>>548667253
no
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use case for swords?
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>>548667838
bows and spears were infinitely more useful throughout humanity's history
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>>548667964
trvke
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>pooe2
>read this novel
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GGG hates ignite
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>game mechanics shouldnt be explained in the actual game
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>>548664507
>defiled cathedral
You got the scry and div altar at the same time, right?
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>>548667964
Not as useful as axes however
>>548668262
>Game is touted as "complex"
>Surprised it has to explain itself exhaustively
Nah. Trying to figure out what the fuck "nearby" meant and then being told it's 4 metres when you don't have any real metrics was a pain. Pretty sure you can hide these away if it makes you feel """""overwhelmed"""""
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>>548667253
I'll wait for streamerman to weigh in
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>>548668262
fubgun fears this
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>>548667253
It was fine in 0.3 because you could farm white bases for crafting. I imagine crafting, namely abyss crafting, is going to be gutted in 0.4 and we will be back to needing IIR
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I'm gonna start drinking
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>>548667253
i only play Ritualist so i can easily softcap IIR and cap resistances day 1-2 leaguestart without thinking about it at all
it's a cancerous item stat
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>>548668262
Yeah I'm just going to shock
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REMOVE KINGSMARCH GACHASLOP
YOU FAT FUCKING TROON
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rate my fit
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Kingmarch shipments should have a chance to replace currency items with cute anime girls
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9 hours until genshin
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I only play true ethical SSF hardcore. I delete every meta unique I find because it is unethical to keep it. When my character dies, I delete every item in every stash tab because it's not true ethical SSF hardcore otherwise. I Vorici break every six-link I land because it is unrealistic to ever six-link an item in true ethical SSF hardcore. I skip the Labyrinth because Ascendency Classes are unethical powerhouses. Every time a Vaal Orb drops, I immediately use it on a randomly equipped piece of gear to increase the challenge. I've had global chat and trade chat disabled since I got my beta invite back in 0.9.2d, the Merveil fireball optimisation and curse duration patch, because player interaction gave too much advantage. I've sent at least 84 emails to GGG support over the years asking for unlimited ignore player space so I can make sure that no one talks to me when I'm in town. I read and listen to every lorestone, notes, books to fully immerse myself in the true ethical SSF hardcore experience. Every time I go into this general and read the word "meta", "trading", "blade flurry", "clear speed", "Headhunter", so on and so on, I make sure to thrust my giant vibrating dildo one to three times to punish myself accordingly for tainting my TESSFHC experience. I've stolen at least a dozen credit cards from my parents to pay for the 3,250 normal stash tabs that I have to show my support for GGG and the true hardcore game that they have developed. It deeply saddens me that PT left, he was the only one that spoke only truth. Why do you self-proclaimed SSF hardcores even try to pretend that you're truly SSF hardcore? You make me fucking sick.
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>>548670030
>Every time a Vaal Orb drops, I immediately use it on a randomly equipped piece of gear to increase the challenge.
unironically would be kino for a private league
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>>548669890
Cute Karui slave girls from shipments will be how they reintroduce mercs into core
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>>548669945
i only play gachas with Witcher collabs in them
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all i want is an arpg set in the witcher universe
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>ywn play another full priced arpg with no MTX, battle pass, or leagueslop
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poop of excrement
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>>548671159
Titan Quest II??? hello???
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>arpg
>no 2h swords
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>>548668262
what a mess
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>>548668262
Wasn't this slop created just to counteract the interaction between ignite and a unique?
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>>548671304
it's just not that good
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Ever the prostitute, hm?
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>>548671454
ignite was used to amplify a gigantic single hit skill without generating flammability charges or meaningfully investing into ignite
hammer of the gods, perfect strike, that kind of shit
because poe2 ignite scales off total hit damage, not base damage like in poe1, so if you ignite with a 1m damage hit, you get another 3.2m damage over time from ignite
why? retardation
it had to be different than it is in poe1
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cringe thread
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>>548671984
well yeah, you're in it.
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>>548669945
kino awaits
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>>548671984
>no 2h swords
cringe game
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>>548672790
tell the devs, crying on an anonymous mongolian basket weaving forum won't help
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>>548673224
the devs read these threads
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druids will be just like wow druids
because they cant equip 2h swords
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>>548667253
It literally only makes sense in D2 because it is a game with a hard cap on difficulty with no expectation of future support. You get IIR on gear to get better drops because the game is pretty easy for most classes.
PoE can have its difficulty adjusted and can create more endgame than pindleskin runs. We can now move rarity and quant to difficulty and that is how it should be.
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>>548673717
when do we get WoW enh shamans?
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>>548671159
>NO microtransactions
>NO seasonslop
>NO battle pass
>NO clear-speedslop
>STILL unsurpassed
Kneel
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>>548668262
PoE2's design just seems to be to add more mechanics, charges, keywords, and support gems in hopes that it will eventually hit a critical mass or something.
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Locking weapons and armours to classes is soul and encourages build and gear variety
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>>548664338
What was Drox thinking with that haircut?
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>>548673828
4/10 uncslop
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>sleepers
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REMINDER to tune in a poe stream the day after tomorrow for your free mtx
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>>548673983
It's so bad I don't even want it for free
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>>548667253
The top entry in the gigantic list of things PoE1 solved after years of experimenting and PoE2 completely forgot
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>>548671924
They wanted it to be simpler. "I hit harder, therefore I burn harder" which is understandable, but they ruined all damaging ailments. They scale the same as regular damage just with some additional vectors/support gems. It is basically built like 80-85% the same then the small changes feel more like flavor than anything.
Changes need to be made. Maybe they can make it so DoT multi and shit has a greater magnitude on damage and that things like crit contribute but only at 50%. Basically, move more of the power to the DoT specific stuff and make it so that hitting harder does help somewhat.
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>>548673912
>he says in a thread about a game aping D2 harder than anything else on the market
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>>548673828
If you told me I had to replay Diablo 1 or 2, I'd choose 1. Both are outdated, but 1 is more of a roguelike and can be beaten in a day.
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the devs are NIGGGERS
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>>548673983
>dogshit mtx fomo to boost numbers
yikes
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whats your 0.4 leveling strat

inb4 drood is OP
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>>548674234
I am going to make a fire-based MoM EB druid using arm/es gear
>but that sounds shit
I will enjoy it
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fubshit should choke on some mashed potatoes
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Reminder in poopa2 you can actually homebrew a build from the getgo and do good
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>decide to try "crafting"
>spend 30 minutes spamming alt aug on bases
>roll the recomb gacha and fail repeatedly
>only choice is to scour and start over
this is a fun and cool system
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>>548674234
Unfortunately the only archetypes I have not played are:
>Minions
>Bows
>Traditional Mace (I played a thorns Warrior)
I do not want to play any of those so I feel pigeonholed into Druid. It won't happen but I am praying they pull a fast one and release a second class or weapon... or maybe do a rework of an older one.
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>>548674508
ants were pretty insane last league
bow feels nice to play in poo2
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>>548674443
Yeah, in PoE2 I've only followed one build guide, every other character I made myself and for most of 0.1 we had no PoB and I still did fine. It is way easier to make a character.
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>>548674443
>homebrew a build
you mean follow the build that jonathan made for you
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>>548674443
What can I do endgame besides speedrunning autism? Anything cool to chase by doing boss runs or is all of that 90 dollary doo mtx?
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>>548674443
True and that's why it makes streamer simps seethe
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>>548674556
I hate minions and they honestly seem like a huge pain in PoE2 with the spirit nonsense. Bows can be whatever, but they are probably gonna get nuked.
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>>548674467
if you need to scour after a failed recomb you did something extraordinarily wrong. did you follow a guide? did you just do some random shit and hope it would work?
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>>548673717
>add druid class
>give them a special weapon (talismans) that's only for druids and is literally useless for every other character
PoE was made because D3 was a flop and has finally come full circle and embraced it's design
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>>548674670
you get more than enough spirit
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>>548674228
trvke
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>>548674443
You can do it in PoE1 as well. You can take let's say Stormblast Mine from the beach and make it do like 10m with a +2 wand and it will feel better than let's say that ghetto cyclone quarterstaves have in 2. It's just that the gap between homebrew and minmax is bigger and the low number of skills in PoE2 lends itself to experimentation more easily.
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Warrior will be nuked because 2 people like to play him and that's 2 too many
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>>548674927
nah poe1s skilltree is way too convoluted if you dont know what youre doing you will brick your character
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>>548674948
Thorn warrior is legitimately good, except you then fight a boss that barely attacks and you stand around doing nothing
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>>548674948
Jonathan will never nerf bows
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poowun troons (un)kindly leave our general
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>>548674780
>did you follow a guide
yes and apparently it's meant to be a heroic feat to roll two prefixes
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Keepers/X35dZLMRiP
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>>548675016
you can just click the nodes that obviously increase your damage and defences and you wont be that far off a minmaxed tree
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>>548675180
not in poe1 anon
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>>548673828
>>NO clear-speedslop
Painfully untrue and D2 should be reviled for polluting the ARPG market with
>Normal
>Hard
>NIGHTMARE!!!
nonsense.
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>>548675142
how could you possibly fuck that up? how did it take 30 minutes? why did you scour?
you recomb a shield with block and a shield with +1 phys
33% chance to get a shield with both mods, done
66% chance to get a shield with only one of the mods in which case you repeat the process
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>>548675080
poe2's version of cws
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>>548675094
/poeg/, 2rist
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>Harbi farm strat
>Had to purposefully put tinks on Fracturing Shards to make it sound like it's really profitable
Lole
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>>548675415
It honestly is, lmao. I didn't think about that. The way I played it last league it basically was CWS. Just walk around channeling the shield slap skill while everything hits you and dies.
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Well?
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>>548675245
yes, in poe1
there are some retard traps like clicking all the small nodes of a wheel or taking 0 life nodes or wasting all your points on travelling but its really not that complicated
i always make my own trees and i like to compare different trees to figure out which one is the best, the difference between them is really not that big
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They intentionally bunged 3.27 to make as many people as possible swap to the BIG XMAS poo2 patch
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>>548675429
poe refers to path of exile 2, everyone knows that.
when someones uses poe, they automatically mean the second game.
y'all bitchass uncs need to sybau and gtfo
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I simply do not want to restart every 4 months.
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>>548675654
He has to be baiting lmao
>>548675668
Imagine if those nodes had some random downside so you can't just click on them freely. Thank God there isn't a game like that.
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>>548675386
>how did it take 30 minutes
as far as i'm aware there's no faster way to spam alts than holding shift and using the keyboard shortcut to swap it to augs, of course with a regex to highlight either prefix
>why did you scour
to repeat the process :^)
and yes i'm realizing i probably could have recombed the bricked rares but at this point i'm going to take a break and go make some lunch
thinking about just buying the bases with one of the prefixes on them because with alt prices currently it would probably be cheaper
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Where's my daily poe comp
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>>548676014
if you want the alting process to not take forever, fill the tab with bases
set your regex to also show open prefix (not open suffix)
alt the bases in the tab until they all light up, meaning they either have one of the prefixes you want or an open prefix
hold alt and aug them all
repeat
takes like 5 minutes max to make that item
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>>548675016
PoE1 has moved nearly all of it's power to gear and the skill tree barely has any effect on your character as long as you click anything that gives life or damage (jewels count as gear)
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>>548675654
>make new thing
>noooo too many people are playing the new thing
No, druid gear is not going to be "overpriced."
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>>548676348
that is literally exactly what I did
my regex matches either prefix or an open prefix and ignores any suffix entirely
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>>548676686
then its time to click faster unc
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>>548676654
Tri won.
You lost.
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>>548676654
>>make new thing
>>noooo too many people are playing the new thing
He says in a thread that spent all of 0.2 seething about Huntress being popular
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>>548674234
lightning claw druid
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>>548674234
not playing pooe2 until we get swords desu
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ADD
MINOR
IDOLS
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>>548677583
to PoE2, right?
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>>548675668
anon
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Bros I just poofed Svalinn to locus, can I have an F?
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>>548677352
yes, those people in this general were retarded
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>>548676420
>the skill tree barely has any effect on your character
You know that is not true
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if I swap between regular headhunter and foulborn headhunter can I snapshot buffs and keep soul eater up?
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>>548678505
I don't know
CAN you?
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>>548678505
I'd rotate in the replica hh too, just to be optimal
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>>548678463
Ignore that guy, he only knows PoE from ChatGPT. You'll get takes like how Cyclone is only good with swords and whatnot.
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>>548678463
It is true if you could jewels as items rather than as part of the skill tree
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>>548678505
yea you can also swap in a mageblood to snapshot left 4 flasks and a foulborn mageblood to snapshot right 4 flasks
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>>548678907
does this actually work? don't yank my chain
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What if the 0.4 update is that we get a new atlas tree but all the league mechanic passives come from cluster jewel slots in the passive tree that you have to get from killing that league's boss
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>>548677352
part of that was ggg panic-buffing LS, which was popular on all viable classes, when they realized Huntress was an overdesigned mess that wasn't inutitive enough to pick up for most players.

something like that could definitely happen for druid: or they pre-emptively make it OP to prevent a similarly disasterous day 1.
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odds and i delete my poe account
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>>548679253
DON'T
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>>548679223
just like they preemptively made kinetic rain op? those devs?
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>>548679128
so you can spec heavily into one thing?
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>>548679405
I don't know what that is. only played poe1 ruthless since it was available then swapped to poe2 and have only played that since 0.1
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>>548677759
>>548679078
anon i'm glad you got your first maven kill and all but you need to understand that objectively you're at where the average player is within a week
"spergs with 1000 hours" do indeed kill maven day 1 but when you hear people refer to a leaguestart build that typically means something capable of killing maven and uber elder and farming t16s without a whole lot of difficulty or currency
maven is harder than eater/exarch for sure but there's a reason you probably still have about half of your favored map slots missing
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>>548679128
this would be kino which is why it wont happen
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>>548674234
its called play the game and not give a fuck
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>>548679128
What's the point of that? They probably haven't even added half the shit they want to add to maps. Would be another placeholder that gets a rework and ultimately boiling down to a big waste of developing time. I can magine it.
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>>548679253
you won't
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>>548679443
yeah but you have to find the right jewels
>>548679914
This would be easier because newer content wouldn't require them to try and fit stuff into the atlas tree since you just design new jewels that can be swapped in
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>>548674234
weapon-swapping totem fissure slam Wbringer
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>>548680071
>we decided to make farming items reliant on farming items so you can farm items

could be controversial, ggg basically had to delete the need to think about map sustain
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What if the 0.4 update is that they remove the leagueslop entirely and make a real endgame
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If the PoE2 league is boring I think I might be able to get a demo of my Affliction league ripoff game out in January.
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If I use an influenced exalt on an item will it delete any other influence on it
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>>548680436
You can't use it. Shaper/Elder/Conq requires a clean base. Pretty sure you can't even slam matching exalts and influence. It HAS to give the influence first to work.
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>>548680257
Well atlas jewels would be like tablets that you only farm once per character. You don't have to sustain them
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>>548680436
can you even use that on an influenced item?
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>>548680370
What if it is all a ruse, and once you get of queue you see a live video of some fat bald guy jacking off and blasting his load into your direction. Stellar content from GGG.
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>>548674234
What the fuck is a "leveling strat", you mean a leaguestarter??
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>>548680985
figuratively that describes every league, why would this be any different
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Any of you guys actually hyped for druid?
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>>548681734
only ironically
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>>548681734
no lol
it's guaranteed to not be truly finished until next league.
they probably won't even get the upper left of the tree right first time, I only hope they don't fuck up anything about my flawless (untested) masterpiece of a warbringer build.
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>>548681734
I exclusively play Druid/Ranger/other nature classes in RPGs when possible, so yes. But I just know it's going to be a clunky poorly-designed piece of shit so my hopes aren't too high.
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>>548681734
no and i dont really feel like playing poe2 again yet
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>>548681734
I'm not a normalfag so no
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>>548681734
eh... not really
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>>548682032
This is a stupid slide, you're still doing rotations either way. If they want to add a disruptor then fine, but you're still doing the thing you don't want to do.
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>>548682032
I really don't get their second point. PoE avoids rotations by... everyone playing 1-button builds. The support gems system would be a great fit for setup-spender mechanics, and they have attempted that in some minor ways (supports that enhance non-damaging ailments, charge generation, EF+contagion) but never really committed to it properly
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>>548682284
bg3 was a good ass game, bit more dynamic cutscenes and it'd be a 10/10
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>>548681734
Not at all. I'd turn him into a caster without the transitioning into other animals shenanigans.
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>>548682712
>The support gems system would be a great fit for setup-spender mechanics
did you not read the picture? they dont want generator spender mmo rotations.
well, chris didnt want it. jonathan does
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>>548682856
What would be the point of that? Pretty sure animal minion memes will be on Huntress
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why did they delete it?
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>>548683026
more like the kwaboty award
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>>548683026
My thinking there is that they pulled out because they want to keep up the facade of
>early access btw
Since they don't have anything to lose by doing that. If they don't win, then whatever
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>>548683012
They don't want 1-button builds either but that's what everyone plays and what the 6-link system promotes
They are extremely bad at making what they want make sense
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>>548683026
jonnyboy saw human generated feedback
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>>548682758
they fucked up by not making Bane and Gortash the final boss. I couldn't care less about fighting a shitty big brain with no personality. I assume Jason Isaacs was too expensive or something.
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>>548683026
>saar pls give us the goty do not notice the early access saar actually good game it give +9999 izzat trust saar totally not botted numbers and not indian call center marketing saar
Saddest shit I've ever seen.
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should of
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>>548683867
come here
RAAAAHHHHHH
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>>548683570
many builds have one or more situational skills. vaal skills, hand casting a curse or mark, sigil of power, frost shield, enduring cry, that kind of stuff. thats what bfr wanted and its a lot better than jonathans attempt at generator spender / mmo rotation sloppa
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>>548674443
sweet i can't wait to homebrew a 2h swo...oh wait
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>>548683026
normies were flaming them. you gotta kill that shit before it festers. swift PR reaction by GGG!
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>>548683570
>>548683012
they're working through a shitload of different ideas to find what both works and is balanceable. we've already gone through:
>regular monsters have slams, oh dear rangers all die constantly, okay evasion and block now work on everything
>only one of each support, oh dear that forces everyone to use 1 button builds, okay multiple supports on different skill
>and here are lineage supports. you can only use one of but they're often so powerful they force you to use 1 button builds again

its a mess, they're just having to make sure after 0.2 that they don't launch with a version of the game that is too hard while they test each thing.
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>>548684617
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>>548683648
when they added watchstones/voidstones the atlas tree, and later T17s
now the atlas is just an extended campaign and the endgame starts at 4 stones and all atlas points unlocked
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>>548683570
trading complicates things because of course if you have enough DPS anything can be a 1-button build, that's the endgame goal in an arpg. but if people do that no one is testing the combo-based styles.

remember ggg didn't even know how to balance rarity vs quant in 0.1, and now they've made trade much easier which will change power scaling even more unpredictably. it's a really complicated set of interrelated problems.
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>>548684752
(((of course not)))
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People will always look to simplify things if it's possible, corralling them away from that is a losing battle.
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>>548684379
it's take years to make poe1 as flexible as it is (ruthless actually rewards combos without needing to have completely different skill balancing). after less than a year of release poe1 was much more of a mess.
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which systems will they shit up in 0.4?
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https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1995952617512694177
https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1995952617512694177
https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1995952617512694177
https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1995952617512694177
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>>548685263
DELI FOG LOL XDDDD
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>>548685263
it's more like will they over look a diamond in the turd
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>>548685189
yeah all people want is to have alternatives. as an ssf player especially I want to be able to be more tryhard in exchange for being able to progress faster.
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>>548678463
If you make a character with no skill points allocated besides jewels and good gear you can still clear ubers
If you make a level 100 character with a good tree but with no gear equipped you aren't gonna get very far
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>>548685358
>Endlessly shilling your 'next big thing' with this fucking freak
The fuck is wrong with these nigggers
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>>548685263
We noticed that all players felt like they had to run maps with delirium applied so we reduced the loot from delirious maps by 800% to encourage a greater variety in play styles.
Every league mechanic having its own passive tree was a mistake. I will die on that hill.
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>>548685358
talkative tri won
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>>548685568
jonatroon will not stand for any real questions or criticism
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>>548685617
>I will die on that hill
Of what, old age? The only person who would argue with that is probably jonathon himself, and I doubt he could climb said hill to fight you on it.
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>>548682032
>using different skills should come from combat situations
depending on when this slide was made, i'd say there's a good chance he's talking about mob immunities or single target/crowd killing
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why do brazilians love poe2? it's sus
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>>548685617
>Every league mechanic having its own passive tree was a mistake. I will die on that hill.
I do think you're wrong here, at least with respect to poe 1
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>>548685617
>Spoiler
>Being able to modify league mechs is bad
I'll take this seriously, why?
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>>548685263
crafting most likely, i doubt that jonathan intended it to be that strong in 0.3. it overshadowed basically every gear acquisition method in the game. expedition crafting and the recombinator are only used to create specific crafting bases, tiered rares are hidden on everyones filter. nobody is doing the wholesome ground loot identifying that jonathan envisioned.

the endgame rework might actually be good though
they went through 2 terrible iterations (infinite atlas with towers and infinite atlas without towers) so it cant really get worse
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>>548685568
the alternatives are Ziz and Quin sooooo
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>>548685043
I don't think that matters so much. A multi mirror build can one button kill the Uber feared in 2 seconds? Fine. But if at lower investment using a combo deals significantly more damage than trying to max out one skill then it's still worth using by a large portion of the population
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>>548685801
>love poe2
>Booth PO02
not sure about that one chief
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>>548685568
Jonathan gets 90 minutes to smell his own farts without interruption
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>ALL CLASSES BUFFED
...what happened to that?
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>>548685358
it's happening
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>>548685805
>>548685816
I'm not saying that having an atlas passive tree is bad, I'm saying having separate trees for each mechanic (rather than one giant single tree) is bad because there is no specialization or trade offs for boosting one mechanic vs another. There is no choice.
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>>548685568
Uh oh a nearby ufo will pick you up soon!
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>>548685847
>So Jonathan, there's a schoolbus full of children about to fall of a cliff, you can save it by sucking a dog's dick, would you do it?
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>>548686015
What a handsome well adjusted lad
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>>548686015
t-that image... its hard...
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>>548685840
>it overshadowed basically every gear acquisition method in the game
I think you're right but the conclusion is just brain damaged enough for GGG to gut it. Its like how ES overshadowing life is going to result in an ES nerf instead of adding life to the game. I'm not even not even going to say that the alternative is buffing life because it doesn't even exist right now as a defensive layer, for any reasonable discussion.
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>>548686001
they were nerfed instead
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TALKATIVE FAG WON

WHY
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>>548686001
They didn't lie though, they just nerfed everything else
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>>548685847
The ziz interview with Jonathan was unironically the best thing to ever happen to poop2 though?
Jonny's lil melty at Ziz pointing out his shit vision saved the game.
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>>548685617
>Every league mechanic having its own passive tree was a mistake. I will die on that hill.

it's because ggg know that ANOTHER huge tree makes normies piss their pants. its also arguably redundant if you can just run one mechanic then respec, you end up with the same gameplay as multiple trees.

i agree it feels like there aren't enough options within each league though.
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>>548686206
Man watching that live was an experience.
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>>548686182
he actually did
It disgusts me
He literally doesnt know shit about poe
He got to this by literally spamming #poe2 #pathofexile2 garbage tweets during EA launch.
Johnathan jumped on train because he can manipulate that retard and block any questions as much as he wants
I hate normies so fucking much
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is this local on a weapon?
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>>548686227
>you end up with the same gameplay as multiple trees.
But the points aren't transferable between mechanics. Do you still need to do the mechanic boss to unlock skill points in said mechanic?
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6 hours until genshin
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>>548686227
Give every mechanic it's own tree, but they share a points pool so you actually have to specialize.
also make it so there are some actual choices in each tree instead of there always being an objectively correct layout.
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>>548686206
No matter how much a faggot Ziz is. He will always be redeemed by this.
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>>548686413
Pretty sure it is.
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>>548686392
even ziz knows more about poe than talk
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>>548686206
link a clip. preferably from YouTube
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Sometimes I wonder how supporters feel when their uniques and div cards become worthless and filtered. All those exalt div cards, the schoolar, skyforth's boots
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>>548686475
he slammed his 9inch norwegian cock on the table
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poowun chuds lost
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>>548686435
This. So much this.
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>>548686151
>ES overshadowing life is going to result in an ES nerf instead of adding life to the game

everyone has forgotten why ggg removed life on the tree: all it does is make it harder for GGG to balance monster damage. like, you think you're getting more choice, but really everyone is just going to go glass cannon with minimal life nodes or omega HC tank with everything they can pick up.
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>>548664338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GT-WnuOXIk
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we could've had lily or smokie. instead we get this basedface faggot
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>come listen to an interview by someone who knows as much about the game as your dog while he serves up company-approved softballs
is their intent to keep poo2 for hypercasuals or what's even the goal here
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>>548686979
>everyone has forgotten why ggg removed life on the tree: all it does is make it harder for GGG to balance monster damage
Ok, is GGG going to balance monster damage anytime soon....?
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tri is badass imo
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>>548686435
>no new landmass to explore
>interlude AQ
it's a huge filler patch thoughbeit
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>>548686660
>skyforth's boots
Man I remember that thing being sought after and then got super confused why the FB version was like 27d.
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>>548686413
no
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>>548686806
you know what? i will take niggyd every single time as the "face" of the community over a literal alien lizard
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>>548686979
So why didn't they remove ES from the tree? It's just blue life.
Are they stupid?
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The Talkative One never misses. Simps and casuals malding.
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>>548687087
>is their intent to keep poo2 for hypercasuals
yes
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>>548686979
>you think you're getting more choice, but really everyone is just going to go glass cannon with minimal life nodes or omega HC tank with everything they can pick up.
>removes the choice of going tank or glass
lol?
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is path of exile good for us?
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Yes youre valid
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idk wow's down for like 5 more hours so I guess so
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>triGODS vindicated again
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>>548687624
Objectively no, we could be doing something else.
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>>548687228
still more content than poe2
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>>548687395
A long long time ago, ES was balanced by being really hard to recover outside of recharge
I don't understand why armor and evasion are still allowed to be so shit when ES is effective against everything
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>>548686470
>they share a points pool so you actually have to specialize.
yeah people willjust respec when they want to run a different mechanic, making the choice into a gold sink. or they'd complain because of feeling like they're being "forced" to run a mechanic they haven't specced into because it was generated in a map alongside something they did want, etc.

not saying the current system is perfect, but I'll be amazed if a perfect system exists. being able to generate a specific type of content every map always felt weird to me in poe1, it makes mapping feel like going to the mall.
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>>548687624
solve one more captcha to find out
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>>548687017
lily has negative charisma. she'd be awful for this
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>>548686979
>everyone has forgotten why ggg removed life on the tree: all it does is make it harder for GGG to balance monster damage
They removed life from the tree because piling on life nodes were mandatory on any build that wasn't CI, and it wasn't very fun paying the point tax to just get enough life to pay the entry fee.
I assumed that removing them meant they were going to make you not need them. But here we are with the typical ES build having an order of magnitude more buffer than life.
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Swordbro should have been on the podcast.
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So uhhh Ward exists. Why?
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https://www.twitch.tv/zizaran/clip/ExquisiteTriangularArugulaTTours-IZOSDS80EkoVMd-M?
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>>548687624
>>548687715
Lol, TalkativeTri has got the scrubs questioning life.
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>>548687821
>yeah people willjust respec when they want to run a different mechanic
oh no.... I'll have to spend the tens of millions of gold I have from playing the game to run a different mechanic...
Also you can literally spawn any specific type of mechanic on maps in poop2 already? I don't understand your argument there
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>>548687815
reminder that both vaal pact and ghost reaver were in the game since beta, introduced in the same patch even lmao
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>>548687395
I agree, I thought they'd nerf it last league. instead they chose to completely rework evasion and block (again). I can understand why they wouldn't also nerf ES at the same time, its not like anyone is playing sorc atm

>>548687815
my theory is that according to GGG's data ES isn't as good as it seems to us. but really it's because they are including players who don't have ES/health above their character and don't notice when they've taken 80% of their ES in damage and are 1 hit from death.
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>>548687951
he's holding in so much seethe
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>>548687907
>mandatory on any build that wasn't CI
glass cannon LA ranger has also been a thing forever in SC. but yeah, having to pay the mandatory life tax if you didn't want to be a sc shitter is the reason.
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>>548688380
this is unironically scary
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>>548687395

>bUt iTS dIFFerNT!

With ES being superior to life mechanically in almost every single way.

They don't really have any clue on how to balance mobs. There's too many bullshit mechanics mobs have that can delete even defensively minded builds and this issue is there's 50 of them on your screen at any one time. If they want their PoE2 vision, move density needs to be cut and individual mob strength (not speed though) needs to be juiced. If Jonathan wants weight then killing a pack of mobs should be harder, while dropping more loot to make up for density loss.
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>>548687907
>They removed life from the tree because piling on life nodes were mandatory on any build that wasn't CI, and it wasn't very fun paying the point tax to just get enough life to pay the entry fee.
this post shows that there are no both competent designers and players left in this community. life nodes were always used as a guidance tool to make people path near them to get other things that they wanted. every single node placement in poe1 tree was carefully planned and deliberate. cant say the same about poe2 tree.
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>>548688602
poe2 es nodes are deliberately placed near the crit diamond which everyone should take anyway
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>>548688380
Mindcontrolled
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>>548688380
it looks like he just heard some moron spout the dumbest fucking shit he's ever heard and it pissed him off.
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>>548687815
Recovery was never an issue
ES was balanced because you got fucked by freeze, stun, etc and had to spend a lot of character power to counter those things
Now you get them for FREE so it's just better life
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They should UNIRONICALLY remove CI.
Having a way to easily ignore the most difficult to resist damage type is way too good.
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>>548688380
Me when I spend 10 seconds reading /poeg/
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>>548688130
that's literally why I'm saying its bad.
why have a big single tree if respeccing is free? there's no real decision-making.

>you can literally spawn any specific type of mechanic on maps in poop2 already

yeah i'm a retard and forgot that, I didn't play much after the endgame rework. but you can still theoretically run out of tablets so it doesn't "feel" like just being able to set Breach chance to 100% by clicking all the nodes.
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>>548687951
this is after ziz stated he plays Ballista on Warrior btw
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>>548688875
they cant and wont. this is sole most famous keystone in poe and its beyond iconic.
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>>548687951
if you listen closely, Ziz is asking him nonsensical questions and he just can't remember what the reasons for ggg's decisions is because he doesn't personally balance the game.
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>>548687971
gladiator*
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>>548688602
That's somewhat true. The huge life cluster on in the center of the tree was great because it made cross-class builds that had to path through the center not feel like paying a tax, unlike poe2 where you have to path through the starting nodes on each section in between the classes and end up paying like a 20 point tax on shit you probably can't even use.
The problem was that you didn't just take the few that were nearby on the way to things you wanted, or pick up the life nodes then notice the cool stuff around it. As a certified casual gamer who is probably the target audience for this kind of gentle nudging, it resulted in going on great treks to places with nothing I wanted just to filch the extra life nodes.
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>>548687821
>being able to generate a specific type of content every map
that's what i want to do
>it makes mapping feel like going to the mall
i don't understand what this means
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>>548688995
so it was jonathan that was the anti choice dev all along
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>>548683017
Thought he'd get a shaman ascendancy or something, casting weather spells and alike.
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>>548688519
Jon is a corporate CEO, all gaming employees are secretly hyper-focussed ubermensch capable of working 18 hour days for weeks. you can see his underlying steely determination for a moment there while he tries to find a safe way to argue with the blue-haired norwegian netflix gamer.
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>>548688904
the poe2 atlas passive tree doesn't really make sense in a game supposedly designed around making choices and having consequences for said choices
You give every player access to every tree for every mechanic and the end result is that every player's atlas passive tree will look identical.
There is no specialization, there are no trade offs, there is no building around a farming strategy, there is just "these are all objectively better than everything else so you will choose those no matter what."
It's a shit system and you may as well delete the tree and just give the player a buff when you beat the boss of each mechanic instead.
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>>548688602
What does the Scion life wheel (formerly known as the life rectangle) lead you to?
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https://youtu.be/LurKRjYgFps
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>>548688239

Having played a lot of armour, EV+deflection, and arm/EV hybrid builds this league, the issue for every build but titan is health pool is too low to ever feel like you aren't one unlucky hit or bullshit mechanic away from death even when skewing the build towards being more defensive (not quite HC levels but close). Pure ES or ES hybrids were easily getting 2x the ehp AND 3x the max hit of any other type of defensive layer except extreme armour stacking which is niche.
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>>548689426
hopefully a realization that he's talking out of his ass
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LurKRjYgFps
ITS UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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so life wheels on the tree were just yellow paint?
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>>548689426
Not that guy but the #1 reason I ever go there is for overlapping jewel shenanigans. The #2 reason is mana. If I'm not doing either of those things then I stay the FUCK away from the center. Center of the tree is the ZDPS zone until you have trade league bullshit to juice it up.
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>>548689501
>>548689606
buy an ad, chris
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>>548689218
>i don't understand what this means
you go to the supermarket because you want milk
there is always milk there.
you buy it and go home.

i prefer it to feel like exploration is happening on some level, the new simpler tablet system + infinite world atlas are basically okay by me but I haven't played it from leaguestart yet.
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>>548689725
I get close to it just to grab that +5 rage node. Why is it there.
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>>548689426
excellent way to path from ranger/duelist area to templar area.
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>>548689834
>exploration
What exploration? The only thing you can find in the infinite atlas is disappointment.
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>>548681734
It depends
On one hand I very rarely enjoy nature-themed classes, Duelist or Shadow or Templar would all have me more excited
On the other hand, the one small lore blurb for Druid (from the artbook iirc) mentions he follows the Draiocht, and currently poe2 seems like they're giving everyone at least one ascendancy thematically connected to an antagonist.
>Acolyte of Chayula (Breachlords)
>Ritualist (Ritual)
>Smith of Kitava (Kitava)
>Gemling Legionnaire (Eternals)
>Lich (Abyss, even without the special green version)
>Chronomancer (Zarokh/the djinn, bit of a stretch though and third might be more obvious)
With that in mind Druid might have something connected to the Sacred Grove/Oshabi, but it's also possible they double dip and his "evil" ascendancy is something connected to the Nameless King. Something with Chaos and Bleed maybe. If he has anything like that then I'm 100% starting Druid.

>>548686979
>>548687395
Think about the difference between ES and Life. ES has a recharge delay, stops recharging upon taking damage, is much harder to get Leech for, doesn't scale naturally from attributes, and is either ignored by or takes double damage from Chaos. All other things being equal, 4999 ES and 1 Life is worse than 5000 Life.
Every non-CI build in 1 has to put points in Life because of how bursty the game's damage is. Even if you're focusing on ES or Evasion or Spell Suppression or Block you still want a good chunk of Life. They clearly want to avoid this with 2's tree and let you get away with having low Life without a 99% chance of dying as soon as you enter a map.
They WILL put Life on the tree eventually, but they're being pussies about it because if you put Life on the tree without making other layers strong then you're back to 1 where Life is a near-mandatory roll on every item for every build. Check Keepers on poeninja, exclude CI, and the single most common mastery in the game is the "no life on body armour" one.
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>>548689746
christ wilson OWNS this thread lil gup
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I just want armor to be viable without stacking it to retarded amount
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I'm not reading all that shit bro sorry
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>>548689941
>They clearly want to avoid this with 2's tree and let you get away with having low Life without a 99% chance of dying as soon as you enter a map.
They clearly failed on that then.
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>>548690136
Sorry anon, gotta pump it to half a million if you actually want to survive getting chunked
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fr
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>>548689941
>you're back to 1 where Life is a near-mandatory roll on every item for every build
poe2 would be the exact same if the game was balanced and you couldnt just offscreen instakill everything
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>>548689941
>Draiocht
the fuck is that and doesn't the king in the mist cry about it
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>>548689834
i think we have irreconcilably different approaches to the game
>there is always milk there
there's milk in 1 out of every 50 supermarkets you visit, but it's very good milk
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>>548689606
HOLY BASED
fuck nupoe. fuck jonatroon
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>>548689415
>supposedly designed around making choices and having consequences for said choices
it has to be acceptable for an arpg audience prone to extreme FOMO.
the idea is that the new atlas tree is a progression system not a specialization system. the choice is when you decide what tablets to put in the map device. if you don't want to do expedition you're only going to see them if you happen to path through a map with one pre-generated.

>there are no tradeoffs
being able to fully spec into one thing and then generate it in every map isn't really a trade off either. in poe1 it just feels like a tradeoff because you can only spec into one thing at a time. in poe2 your time and interest in doing specific bosses earlier or later is the tradeoff.
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>>548689941
>All other things being equal, 4999 ES and 1 Life is worse than 5000 Life
I did an ES build for the first time a few days ago in poe2 and when I went back to life because I'm not a SISSY I definitely felt the lack of native recharge. I guess Real Gamers stack enough and other recvoery methods to make the ES' native recharge irrelevant but having 4k ES that comes back on its own compared to 1k life that needs to be recovered via flasks was definitely way easier.
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>>548689941
>then you're back to 1 where Life is a near-mandatory roll on every item for every build
That's intentional though. The entire game is designed around the life and resistance affix tax
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>>548689606
why is there so much overlap between Diablo nerds and card game nerds?
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>>548690498
>in poe1 it just feels like a tradeoff because you can only spec into one thing at a time
Yeah, that's what a trade off is? I specialized in x so I can't do y (or can only do y at 10% effectiveness).
I can't specialize in every type of damage on my character and still be competitive, I have to focus on one (MAYBE two). It should be the same for the atlas.
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>>548690637
tylenol hobbies
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>>548689516
>I don't feel safe while fighting hordes of monsters

as it should be. they need to make ES, ES/EV and ES/AR builds feel scary too, at least until you are expensively geared. the choice between tank and DPS has to matter, ideally across all classes and builds, as should whether you run a map with 1 portal.
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>why are two things well established as being for literal autists enjoyed by autists
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>>548690704
>I can't specialize in every type of damage on my character and still be competitive
Phys conversion has historically been one of the strongest damage scaling systems in the game
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>>548691127
Okay.
Are scaling your physical, fire, lightning, cold, and chaos damage equally when converting your phys?
Or are you deciding specifically to scale certain things instead of other things?
If you need a much simpler example then thing of doing more damage vs taking more damage.
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>>548690637
poe(1) and d2 are card games when you think about it
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>>548690412
yeah, fortunately ggg understand that different people want different things from an arpg and are crazy enough to try to please everyone. that's why they're the best. it's obviously not straightforward at all though.

BTW I play SSF exclusively and in poe1 played ruthless ssf so I have lower expectations as regards pretty much everything dropping.

>>548689914
I mean, the alternative is Ben running 50 Cemetaries. not saying something like that shouldn't be an option but its not really a procedurally generated dungeoncrawler if you can control the experience that much.
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IT'S UP
IT'S UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LurKRjYgFps
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>>548690637
PoE is literally, unironically, shamelessly a video game adaptation of MtG's design philosophies.
Even the tripfag who's been posting here recently is a regular on /edhg/
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>>548690831
hobbies for headaches?
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>>548691509
>ledditard moving goalposts immediately
other anon won
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what happened to the first druids
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>>548691798
they met the anvil dude and an herod
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>>548691669
based tylenol user
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>>548691638
>Even the tripfag who's been posting here recently is a regular on /edhg/
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>>548690704
>Yeah, that's what a trade off is
no because you couldn't do a breach and an expedition at the same time anyway, even if the game gave you enough points to guarantee both in every map. time is the real resource.
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>>548691509
No, not all of them, but 3 or 4 of them hasn't been uncommon at all. Hell, people are scaling spell damage by str stacking with iron will. Or adding crown of eyes on top and scale attack damage by scaling spell damage by scaling str.
I'm not really disagreeing with you, but "you can't scale everything" is a very funny thing to say about PoE. And most top tier builds avoid making trafeoffs exactly by scaling everything through systems like conversion and "gain X per Y" stacking. PoE is not a game that handles tradeoffs very well
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>>548666732
The only thing that can beat lost ark is lost ark 2. Poshart will never even come close. 1.0 launch will hit 800k max and that's being generous.
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>poe1 players are mostly card game nerds
>poe2 players are mostly gacha tourists
really makes you think
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remember globe girls? suspiciously detailed crotch area of female statues? thats all erik btw
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>>548690704
skill tree = how you play
atlas tree = what kind of reward you get

the second isn't as meaningful a decision because there is no real opportunity cost. obviously you're always going to go for the reward that helps you progress fastest. you can't have all the rewards at the same time but then again ggg (ideally) shouldn't make one league mechanic way better than the others either.
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>>548692525
wtf i love erik now
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leaks say act 5 is in
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>>548673294
No they don't, it is a hate crime to access 4chan in new zealand.
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>>548691538
>I mean, the alternative is Ben running 50 Cemetaries.
What's wrong with that? Why is it wrong to want to run the same map if you like it?
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why are there no teasers? is jonathan not a confident man?
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>>548692848
chris personally approved poe1 beta keys for /poeg/
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>>548692973
NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT YOU HAVE TO RUN DIFFERENT MAPS
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>>548692973
he thinks it's a dungeon crawler
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>>548690227
>>548690271
You're much less likely to get fucked out of the blue by a crit or 10 corrupted blood stacks out of nowhere in 2. You still need defenses of course but the checklist of things you need to mitigate against is way lower. For example if you dropped the Pantheon into 2 with nothing changed it would trivialize a lot of the endgame.

>>548690512
Don't get me wrong, ES is 100% better than Life in 2 right now, but it's much easier to quickly recover a lot of Life than it is ES and max-% Life recovery tends to be more common. The main reason for the disparity is that it's way easier to get a lot of ES than it is to get a lot of Life, but X Life is stronger than X ES.

>>548690394
It's whatever the Wildwood Wisps come from. Might be connected to Solaris and Lunaris.
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>>548691638
>edhg
tripfag is chris wilson
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>main poedev surround himself only with loudest sycophants
Lmao, how desperate is he?!
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>>548693572
Can't be inviting some chud unc to an interview only for him to start dropping truth bombs.
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>>548693572
the vision will NOT be abandoned. Jonathan plans on creating his audience. YOU WILL PLAY WHAT HE TELLS YOU TO PLAY
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alkcord chimpout underway
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>>548688875
they could just make it so CI just grants "chaos damage does not bypass energy shield". And then give it a downside like "damage over time bypasses ES"
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>erik was also responsible for act1 and 2 in poe2
holy shit no wonder act 1 was so good
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>>548693515
>Don't get me wrong, ES is 100% better than Life in 2 right now, but it's much easier to quickly recover a lot of Life than it is ES and max-% Life recovery tends to be more common. The main reason for the disparity is that it's way easier to get a lot of ES than it is to get a lot of Life, but X Life is stronger than X ES.
I just don't really understand why the native recovery in ES gets literally ignored during these discussions.
>but it's much easier to quickly recover a lot of Life than it is ES
Like sure, a LOT, but its obviously easier to recovery ES than life, it happens without you doing anything at all.
If its a "campaign literally doesn't matter and at the point of progression that these discussion tacitly assume, the assumed investment into life recovery methods makes ES recovery irrelevant" then it makes sense. I just wonder if thats the case and also if it implies a blind spot in the discussions. Especially in poe2 where the campaign's lengthiness an is a sore point.
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>>548692973
if running one map is the most efficient way to play the game then its as bad as there being only one best build or best skill. or you could compare it to D4 helltides.
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>>548693989
>run into one "always bleeds" blue mob
>die instantly
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>>548689426
It's the center of the tree western pass-through on the red side of the tree just like the scion ES wheel is the northern pass-through, and the evasion wheel is the eastern pass-through. Pretty self-explanatory
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>>548694120
Good. Would make you have to itemize to cover the downside
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>>548693773
i still believe in zaccie's es fix
it's coming in 0.4
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so this shit is definitely poe2 shit at TGA right? it literally feels like it could be a trials of ancestors entrance
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>>548693989
>>548688875
If CI represents "I am all-in on ES, let me trade in the tank I left on the table by forgoing life investment for something I can leverage" (eg. chaos resistance). Whats the equivalent for life?
The Agnostic? Because that seems like a raw deal.
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>>548685568
Check out some D4 content and it'll give you an idea of their target market for poo2.
To anyone with a developed frontal lobe tri is a blatantly insincere homonculus but the people playing blizzard/johnathan's rollslop are completely lobotomized
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>>548694523
>Whats the equivalent for life?
blood magic.
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>CI disables all non-recharge ES recovery
There, fixed.
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>>548694113
one map will always be the most efficient for any given farm. for a different farm, it might not be. fortunately, the game lets you control both the farm and the map.
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>>548694713
But that's "I don't want to build mana" not "I don't want to build ES"
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>>548694714
>just turn ci into worse dissolution of the flesh
retard
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>>548694604
>To anyone with a developed frontal lobe tri is a blatantly insincere homonculus
Thats the thing, a single glance at tri "genuine smile" is enough to tell its fake as shit, he constantly posts photos of himself near thing related to poe2 so its impossible to miss.
I think you genuinely need to be sociopath to not realize how fake and retarded that guy is. And it makes me ask a question "do i want to be in this company"
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>>548694113
There will always be a most efficient way to play
Should we nerf every skill so they all do the same damage at the same speed at the same range and in the same area of effect?
Wouldn't want players doing something "the most efficient way possible" and taking all the fun out of the game.
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>>548694846
blood magic builds typically dont build es anymore except for ivory tower. all in life builds also go for the apostate.
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>>548694467
are you retarded
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>>548695084
apparently it's not d4 shit, so
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>>548692973
>>548694113
Wanting to spam run the same map over and over is chink rmter behavior and nobody is dumb enough to believe you're running strand a billion times because you just think fighting kraityn is fun. Don't even try to push that bullshit.
On the other hand 2 could really use some kind of way to at least let you influence maps somewhat. There's already technically a biome system in the game but this is the only node that uses it. Maybe a way for towers to "terraform" an area to a specific biome?
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>>548693572
Are we talking about Chris or Jonathan here?
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idk man I just hate performative people and it's fucking OOZING off that tri guy, unbearable to watch
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>>548695506
>no argument
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zoomers and alphas are THE performative generation THOUGH
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>>548695506
there's literally nothing that's as fun as running paranoia scarabs on strand
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>>548695506
>because you just think fighting kraityn is fun
i'm running strand a billion times because deli is fun
same reason i run different strats in other maps
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>>548695634
tri is like the fakest person i have ever seen in my entire life
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he does it on purpose to make hispanics mad
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how angry is big J that the vision is gone before the game is even officially released
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>>548695506
>Wanting to spam run the same map over and over is chink rmter behavior
lol?
>nobody is dumb enough to believe you're running strand a billion times because you just think fighting kraityn is fun
kraityn can suck me, the layout of strand is nice for some strats
what is your problem with wanting to run good layouts?
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>>548695083
Neither of those things seem equivalent. I'm thinking of CI as being more or less a "free" buff if you've already given up on life. Sort of like a reward for picking a specialization. its delivered in the form of solving, for free, the biggest issue that ES has.
Blood magic you don't need to give up on ES, but I guess you don't bother taking ES because it doesn't synergize well?
And the apostate is sort of the opposite. Lets you invest in energy shield as a scaling axis but reaping the benefits somewhere else as opposed to giving you a consolation prize for skipping ES investment outright.
I don't know, you could have a keystone where you have no ES, but you get something like petrified blood. You're explicitly forgoing the obscene buffer that you COULD get out of energy shield, and in return the buffer you are getting will go further. In poe2 this would make sense given how horrible it is to scale life, the critical weakness is how little of it you get, probably wouldn't work as well in poe1 since you can actually get a lot of life in that game.
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>>548695083
they don't gain immunity to a damage type by clicking it
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>>548694523
Man, I wish Agnostic was good but it has direct anti-synergy with the mana nodes on Hierophant which turn mana into ES. Trickster used to have mana nodes that could use Agnostic for an off-meta build, but they nuked that with the Trickster rework. It's like they forgot about that keystone because there's no class that can really use it.

Oh wait, I just checked poe.ninja. People use it with Blood Magic specifically to turn off their ES and get stunned with Valyrium. Funny that the downside is the only part of Agnostic that people use.
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>>548696386
He doesn't strike me as somehow who gets hung up on one thing like Chris. He just happened to be playing dark souls at the time of thinking up poe 2 so he wanted tougher bosses. When he failed with that he just moved on to something else. He probably isn't even thinking about that part anymore.
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ENTER Chris Wilson, Creative Director for Path of Exile 2 (formerly Production Director for Diablo IV)
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>>548696569
i would buy every supporter pack if they did this
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>>548696569
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>corrupted jewel shopping
>You cannot be cursed with Silence
Does any enemy even inflict Silence?
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>>548696838
deli I think?
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>>548696838
As far as I know, it only exists on one tormented spirit at this point and it's extremely fucking annoying on the very rare occasion that it's relevant.
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>>548696838
theres a rare ghost that does
if you use the wheel that makes rare ghosts more common or the scarab that forces all ghosts to be rare variants, you get silenced all the fucking time and its retarded
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>>548696448
You might unironically be on the autism spectrum
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>>548697220
YOU might be on the autism spectrum if you would rather run cells or maze than strand
and you are most certainly on the retarded range of the intelligence spectrum if you believe the majority of arpg players share your stance
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>>548695506
there definitely a lot of arpg players who unironically want to do the exact same thing again and again for hours. doesn't need to be the most efficient way to play the game though. the explorable atlas will be a nice solution once they iron out all the issues.
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>>548697220
>>548697420
we're discussing an arpg more than a week before leaguelaunch, we're all on the autism spectrum.
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>>548697795
even worse, i am discussing an arpg 1 month after the launch of its fucking terrible league
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>>548696473
There isn't a direct equivalent because life and ES aren't supposed to be symmetrical. For an ES stacker a small life pool is a major weakness, for a life stacker having ES or not is irrelevant. Blood magic, unwavering stance, the agnostic, all have similar effects to CI in different ways. The closest thing to a direct reverse CI probably is Everlasting Sacrifice
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>>548697220
My opinion of PoE2 gets lower every time I read the posts its players make
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>>548696386
he just wants to be sucked off by sycophants while placating his chink owners
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>>548697897
Actually, since GGG has this weird indecision about whether Mana is Int or Dex core, you could see CI as denying life for ES, and BM as denying mana for life. The trio would be completed by a mode that denies ES for mana... Which I guess is eldritch battery? Sure makes more sense with old EB that directly converted ES to base mana
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i really just want to do andy runs for 8 hours a day and i'm not joking
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>>548696473
>I'm thinking of CI as being more or less a "free"
>but you get something like petrified blood
think nigga, think. giving up on life is already a major downside that you have to work around. similarly when you pick up blood magic you are giving up on mana reservations.
>>548696503
retard. life already has access to far better damage scaling and defense options than pure energy shield build.
>>548696541
>but it has direct anti-synergy with the mana nodes on Hierophant which turn mana into ES
honestly, it would be pretty cool if they brought back og eldritch battery in some form. they promised more mom options after sentinel but never delivered.
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>>548698714
then play pd2 and do not play poe1 or 2
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>>548699207
why
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>>548664535
wise
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>>548698714
andariel?
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>>548698858
>massreplier is retarded
truly iconic
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>>548697220
This negro isn't aware of the actual ARPG sphere. People have been doing
>1000 ANDARIEL RUNS AND THIS LOOT IS UNBELIEVABLE
for ages now. Boss rushing is a common way to farm in ARPGs, pretty much only PoE dared to break away from that. TLI then took that to heart and their notAtlas will fuck you over if you dare run the same map again.
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WHERE ARE THE LEAKS
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I honestly hope there's gonna be a way to play a tornado druid or some shit, that's the only thing I want
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>>548673828
>no wasd
into the trash bin, old man
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>>548697420
Besides
>the layout of strand is nice for some strats
translating to "running in a predictable straight line is more efficient" which is indeed 100% bugman mentality, the same logic applies to Dunes or Mausoleum or City Square or whatever shit you'd prefer. If you play CS and refuse to touch any map but dust2, or play AoE2 and refuse to touch any map but Arabia, or play TF2 and refuse to touch any map but Upward, or play Smash and refuse to touch any stage but Final Destination, people are rightfully going to call you an autist. It's the same principle here but even more embarrassing because you're doing it for ingame money and not for competitive balance, your reason for wanting to be able to spam X map exclusively is because it's the most efficient.
Nobody is saying you should be running Cells forever either, that's retarded. If certain layouts are miserable to run, the solution is to change them so they're not miserable to run, not to let everyone seclude themselves in the single highest div/hr layout for their specific strat and ignore all other maps.
The cherry on top is people shit on steve for his autistic delve shit every league while doing the exact same thing except with more load screens/spoiler]
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>>548700106
No engineered leaks because there's nothing to hype. 0.4 will probably be a wet fart.
Here's the druid please get excited. The short gap between poe1 and poe2 leagues is because 0.4 is just the stuff left over from 0.3 that got cut.
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>>548667253
of course powerful mf stat on gear is literally the most retarded idea ever
they already saw it how it plays out for many years in poe1 but somehow still went for it in poe2
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>>548673828
the only reason D2 is any relevant is because of PD2 and path of diablo, once blizzard finally realises how popular it is and shuts it down it'll be funny
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>>548700106
they have been working on this league for like a month
theres nothing to leak
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>>548700713
please use the term unc next time so my filters can catch it, i do not respect the opinions of a generation mentally raped by tiktok
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>>548700730
damn you might actually be retarded
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>necromancer summon builds are so shit and so raped that pretty much all the "generic" classic ones (zombies, skeles, SRS, etc) have been pigeon holed into poison spam
i now understand why kay died of grief. kind of amazing how absolutely dead minion builds are in both poo1 and poo2
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JUST TOOK A DARK PATTERN IN MY PANTALOONS
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>>548700730
>If certain layouts are miserable to run, the solution is to change them so they're not miserable to run
It's always fascinating when someone works through their retardation 1/2 way into their thought process but decides to hit "post" anyways
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>>548701137
take a nap grandpa
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>>548701461
TWO (2) (Dos) divines from one mapper? Damn.
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>>548701137
boomie melty
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ive been seeing some kingsmarch mapper slander on poeg lately and im gonna start snapshotting my 36 map batches
starting out good
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>>548701137
you're about to be physically raped by me
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>>548700730
You appear to be misled by the assumption that anyone in this general denies being autistic
You are in the 4chan general for an extremely complex videogame where you repeatedly kill monsters you make your numbers bigger numbers.
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>>548701887
>36 maps
>3d
>tripfag got a mirror on a t2 map
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>>548701887
4 DIVINE ORBS??? OH MY VISION!!
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>>548699816
you just lack the intelligence to discuss the game, you are not welcome here.
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>>548701070
>turning D2 into seasonslop
Project Diablo is what should be reviled
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>>548700730
Dont bother. These mazed tradesissy retards don't want to actually play a videogame.
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>>548701887
Being less interesting than a tripfag should be grounds for execution
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>>548685263
surprisingly, jewels
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>>548702230
im going to keep talking about poe in the poe general and you are going to keep reading my posts
suck it nigger
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>>548702217
and yet it's the only way to play d2 now
accept it boomer
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>>548701137
why didnt you filter wasd actually
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>>548700730
>Nobody is saying you should be running Cells
You are literally saying that, retard
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>>548702226
I'd consider playing SSF if the game had an offline client and gave me enough stash tabs to store all the random junk I need to be self sufficient
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>>548702335
If you want to be a lowbie shitter who posts every divine he finds on 4chan.com, making everyone else feel better by comparison that's up to you, slugger
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Trying to homebrew a tank with minions type setup. Not worried about meta in the slightest, what class should I start with?
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>>548702758
i dont give a fuck about finding a divine but i am curious how profitable kingsmarch mapping is
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>>548702804
Witch
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>>548702505
Proof?
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>>548702226
I play sff but don't chain cells and arachnid tombs because my father did not form my head into a dish to use as an ashtray when I was an infant
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>>548664338
>runegraft of gemcraft is still bugged
HELLO SIRS PLZ DO THE NEEDFUL THANK YOU
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>>548703012
If you do the same map more than once in a row, you are mentally ill
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map diversity is poe2's strength
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>>548703192
TRVTH
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>>548701137
you seethed and coped, but did you dilate?
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playing cws taught me that anakin was a far better protagonist than luke
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>>548703192
You're doing a great job at convincing the thread that you don't need a helmet to use the bathroom
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>>548702932
>i am curious how profitable kingsmarch mapping is
If only this information was available in a format that didn't involve making a fool of yourself on the internet
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>>548703387
based cws movie watcher enjoyer
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>>548703604
where is it available?
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LESS THAN 48 HOURS UNTIL THE REVEAL
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>>548703270
>Giant empty map in the forest
>Giant empty map in a swamp
>Giant empty map in a different kind of swamp
>Giant empty map in a third yet distinct kind of swamp
>Giant empty map in a cave
>Box with 4 buttons
>Aztec rape dungeon
Diversity truly is the spice of life
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>>548702932
Based "see it to believe it"GOD
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>>548702605
>he doesn't already have a ludicrous number of stashtabs he bought by mistake because he forgot he already had enough of a specific type

i regret nothing
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>>548703921
>>Giant empty map in a swamp
>>Giant empty map in a different kind of swamp
>>Giant empty map in a third yet distinct kind of swamp
Truly a soulslike game.
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>>548701887
I unironically am looking forward to kingsmarch in poe2 more than any other league. its great for ssf and getting the dingding shipment notification feels great.
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>>548701461
I see the drops in SSF HC R are getting out of hand
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>>548704262
dark
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they hate to see a cracker thrive
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I am not your exile
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unc m*chanics vill be replaced by 67kino
accept this fact.
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poo2ers are going to beta test the unfinished game while poo1gods will be enjoying themselves playing guild wars:reforged (launches tomorrow)
poo2ers can't stop losing
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>>548701204
>>548701567
Why are my Kingsmarch mappers getting uppity?

>>548701960
>>548702226
Don't get me wrong, I spend a gorillion hours running the same layouts too because that's what 1 is balanced around. The difference is that I'm not stockholmed into thinking it's desirable. Nobody is spamming Strand because they like staring at muted grays for 10 hours straight or Dunes because they like fighting Hillock, they do it because those maps are the most efficient for getting their dopamine stimmies.
The biggest benefit of forcing players to run different layouts in 2 is that GGG can't get away with neglecting 80% of them. If something is unbearable dogshit, they have to either make it much rarer (e.g., Crypt/Vaal Factory) or change it to not be ass (e.g., Decay's invisible walls). This doesn't happen in 1 because 99% of the playerbase runs 90% of the layouts one time for an atlas point and then never again. 16.5s exist because T17 layouts are shit and people complained about it.
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This will be yet another reveal where they lie about everything and change half the mechanics a day before to make players' lives miserable.
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>>548706735
yep confirmed
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>>548706735
Layouts are definitely not the issue with t17s get real.
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GGG must change it so all maps are either a big room, a corridor, or a corridor with a big room at one/both ends.
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>>548706838
I'm still sore from them changing their minds about how Deflect was going to work. there were like 3 versions in a week, before the league even launched. then they changed it again a week in.
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>>548706882
The mods are plenty cancer too but half the reason they suck ass is because of the layouts, Sirus puddles are a lot less aids when they're not all in hallways
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hehe penis map
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>>548706995
finally all maps will be equally suitable for all mechanics
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>>548706995
why?
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>>548707338
>some of the corridor maps have turns in them
>THIS MAP SUCKS I CAN'T SHIELD CHARGE
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Ah yes, all maps will be Atzoatl.
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>>548707557
true, ggg should remove corridor maps to encourage players to do more corridor maps
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>>548707552
divs/hour
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he's right
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>>548708062
Just remove stupid penalties from merc/warrior area of the tree.
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defend Mire's layout in 500 words or more
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>>548708062
>that response

it's adorable, he is so socially accomodating and reasonable. an innocent soul playing a game for raging spergs.
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>>548700330
Wish granted. Tornado has a base damage of 3 at skill level 20. In order to clear maps with it, you must infuse it with fire, cold, and lightning in that exact order while performing a 12-button rotation and doing a handstand.
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>>548708062
I can't wait to see how many people play the new Fate of the Vaal league releasing alongside Path of Exile 2 Early Access 0.4 The Last of the Druids!
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>>548708062
>the game became easier so everything is buffed
bro is literally getting fed lines straight from jonny
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>>548708292
its a bad layout which means you dont want to run it but you have to run it anyway and thats a good thing
someone else do the other 480 words
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>>548708380
sorry how is that not true. frictionless trade alone made the game easier.
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>poo2jeets at it again with his micro eceleb schizo spam
PLEASE SAAR VOTE GOTY BLOODY BENCHOD
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>>548708380
doesn't mean he is wrong
power creep is bad
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Absolutely massive cope
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>>548708062
by director of a company he meant Tencent btw
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>>548708062
>I know they promised this thing, but if you consider this other thing that isn't even true, they did do that
You can dunk a man in vaseline and he still wouldn't be as slimy as this.
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>>548708512
they managed to have powercreep in the very first release of ea
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>>548708596
I wish Tencent actively managed PoE2
would be a better and cuter game
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>>548708685
yes and it was bad
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Those comments about Tri on GGG's twitter are absolutely brutal. People really despise this goblin.
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Kek
This fucking turd of a human just makes me laugh whenever I see him
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>>548706995
simulacrum already exists
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he can kill you through your monitor any time he wants
dont talk shit
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>>548708990
He is successful
He has a wife
He has a child
You have nothing.
You are SOFT.
He is HARD.
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>>548708968
examples?
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>>548708990
he reminds me of the green goblin with that pointy nose and chin
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>>548709091
Simulacrum only has one good layout and it's the bridge encampment from the araakali act
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>>548708990
jonathan's got balls, i wouldn't feel comfortable being around this guy
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>>548709289
>https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1995952617512694177
I'm too lazy to screenshot them, read for yourself.
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>>548709337
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>>548709347
lunacy watch is also good
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why did he file his teeth
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>>548709337
Nah, it's the Killing Joke Joker. I'm certain he can pull off that one page of him clutching his hair.
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>>548709532
that would require me to have a twitter account
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>chris and erik linked up
we're getting arpg kino again soon bros
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I'll set my calendar for 2035 for when it might release
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>>548709945
in closed beta, minimum $500 to join the early access unity asset swap
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>>548709532
kek
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>>548709704
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>>548709289
looking great poop2turdies
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>>548710148
>>548710232
>I'm so happy to see you and Tri again
LMAOOOO. I thought the Tri seethe was just here.
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>>548710148
>>548710232
>talk to my streamer instead on this guy!
fucking faggots.
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>>548710507
>no don't talk to streamers who understand the game
>talk to some weirdo out of touch wanna be grifter who has the eyes of a psycopath
you ain't fooling anyone, tri
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>>548710148
>>548710232
makes you wonder how exactly tri managed to "make it"
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>>548710787
I don't watch Tri, but I hope I can assume as a baseline he doesn't talk about licking ropes of futa boy cum off maven's toes
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>>548710232
>all that broken english
lol
lmao
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>>548710908
i'd respect him if he did
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>>548710748
tri was 36/40 in most leagues he has played and he built a relationship with the developers.
ziggyd rarely even plays poe and knows almost nothing about the endgame.
>get connor, jung, rue or ben to ask questions.
lol lmao
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I want the jeet instead
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>>548710148
>>548710232
it's funny how many of the comments are seething about him being "casual" after ziz spent his whole interview crying about act 1 white mobs
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>>548710787
He doesn't know anything about PoE 1 and never liked it AKA the perfect streamer for Jonathan that won't ask any uncomfortable questions that could make him upset like "why is Poo 2 irredemable dogshit and why can't we jut do things like we did them in PoE 1".
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>>548711442
ziz made jonny his bitch albeit
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Don't look at his PoE1 builds actually, it'd give you an aneurysm.
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>>548711485
but he was getting interviews even before poe2 as a literal who. its all just so artificial.
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>anything about poo2 except the game itself
Damn lil guppesh, all that for 10 rupees and +1 izzat
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>>548711114
Unironically this, I want 30 minutes of awkward thorns discussion
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>>548711114
jeet would call Jonathan a tourist and not be wrong
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>>548711485
he became obsessed with poe when he started playing it, he was making lore deep dives years ago and he has 36/40 in almost every league since he started.
>>548712051
he called ggg and said 'can i interview jonathan?' and they said sure, i think people underestimate just how autistic the guy is.
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>>548712210
no one knows what will change and most are going to play a new class we know nothing about.
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i have this weird feeling that tri is here right now defending himself
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>>548712458
>>548711485
>>548712051
don't forget that he was spamming speculation videos at an absurd rate while also having a life. the guy is some kind of perma-energized christian workaholic. he couldn't be further from the typical arpg player so he triggers people on sight.
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>>548712729
>married
>white
>not fat
>full head of hair
he's everything /poeg/ fears
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>>548713442
>Has 100% deflect
What build is this?
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Tri is:
>White American Alpha male
>employed with a REAL job
>has a REAL family
>has a REAL wife
>has a REAL child
>connected to GOD via his REAL pastor
>hangs out with the hottest ARPG developers and Jonathan
>HARD as all heck
You are:
>Indian
>subhuman
>SOFT as all heck
He won
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>>548713619
legalize trvclear bombs
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even all the posts about tri seem fake
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>>548713619
he is better at the game than most of the people saying he doesn't know what he is talking about.
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yeah this some disgusting big corpo behavior. fucking soulless
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What the fuck are the little black ball things on the ground in the uber eater fight? Not the ones that follow you and drown you, the static ones that look similar that are there while you're trying to activate the purple orbs. What the fuck is with their damage? They ticked me down for 7k life with 90 lightning res in .25 seconds. Spent forever gearing my hc guy and I guess I didn't know about this part of the fight and none of the wiki stuff mentions it.
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remember when they had that big laugh at how many conpletely useless uniques are in poe1 then did it from the getgo in poo2
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TRI WON
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What's his ugly
wife and daughter look like I wonder
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>>548714292
if they unpoe1'd poe2 then the uniques would fit in fine
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>>548714695
Someone post PoE2 uniques
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>thinking I have poo2(it's trash) installed
topkek
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>>548714652
>Yo, I bet his infant daughter is fucking ugly!!!!
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>>548714110
he admitted to buying carries for the """harder""" challenges this league.
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>>548698858
>retard. life already has access to far better damage scaling and defense options than pure energy shield build.
what in the ever loving fuck are you talking about retard?
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>>548714919
based
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>>548700106
If you haven't noticed, GGG don't have time to do pre-league hype cycles anymore because their development timeline is stretched thin, and they have really nothing to show for their time
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Wait why is Chris Wilson associating with Erik Olofsson, a guy who peddles NFTs?
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>>548715181
>no arguments
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>>548715553
>why is the guy that ran a D2 RMT site associated with a guy that runs an NFT company
apples to apples
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>>548715681
I don't have to argue against an assertion. Especially a retarded one.
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>>548715374
>0 effort on a PoE1 league
>Barely any effort in PoE2
>Still stretched thin
What are they doing
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>>548715374
they need to keep people engaged with poe1 leading up to the league launch.
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>>548715762
obviously you cant argue, because you dont know shit about this game past what mr streamer told you to think.
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>>548715863
THEY ARE COOKING JESUS CHRIST*
LET THEM SPEND SOME TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES YOU SICK FUCK
*he didn't exist btw :)
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>>548716954
VGH.....
BVILD ENABLING........
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Holy shit they moved up the livestream
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you know /poeg/ is full of shitters when they start complaining about levelling uniques.
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>>548717338
Spicy take, they shouldn't even bother with that. They are all but useful for 5 minutes before you toss them out.
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>>548708062
why does every single thing talkativetri posts sound extremely faggoty?
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>>548716013
Ah yes, another fallacy ala ad hominem. Perfect rebuttal from retardbrain anon
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>>548717145
HOLY SHIT DUELIST IS IN TOO
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>>548709347
The one time I tried simulacrum it was the kitava rematch harbor. Act 9? I never remember which is which.
It was kind of awful and I never wanted to do simulacrum again.
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>>548715863
the constant back and forth between poe1 and poe2 must be a nightmare
just have a team for poe1 and a team for poe2 you fucking haired retard
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How does one achieve this level of hairlessness?
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>>548718063
It was meant to be one game with two campaigns before Jonathan ruined everything.
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>>548706995
Next league should embrace the WALLS
Players be able to make their own dungeons, laying down walls, placing mobs and so on so forth. You can specify items required to be paid as entrance fee and you can put items in the dungeon to entice players to try and run it.
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>>548718063
that was the way chris set it up years ago and it caused delays in both games.
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>>548718097
razor
t.bald at 23

shit is fucking ANNOYING to deal with. I wish I could just keep it clean in the shower, but all the little hairs accumulate and clog eventually
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>>548710908
>futa
>boy
huh?
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>>548718303
>delays in both games
the time between leagues was still shorter than it is now, jonathan cant even stick to the 4 month cycle
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>>548718403
you cannot comprehend the levels of gb, feminization, isekai rebirth and witch curses im on
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>>548718403
unc...
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>>548718486
weren't people complaining that 0.4 was too early?
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>>548718332
>razor
>t.bald at 23
But why
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>>548717746
>ala ad hominem
>started and ended an argument with retard
god i hate tourists
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>>548700330
yes there is going to be a way
but its not going to be good lol
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>>548718730
yes, its early precisely because the other leagues got delayed but 0.4 has to come out before christmas
0.1 was on the exact same date
0.3 should have been 4 months ago and 3.27 2 months ago but there were too many delays
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i started part 7 and one of clones is black, what???
in other news i will soon be doing megalomaniac redeeming session.
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im lost in the fog hlep
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>>548718189
>make your own dungeon
so like Incursion?
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lmao bro is lost in de sauce
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>>548718834
too much T in my frame

I use clippers nowadays to save my sanity, but if you want that shiny skin look you need a blade
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>>548719595
More like the THPS skatepark creator.
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>>548718964
Can you not read? Retard was only in that post once.

You're having a bit of trouble here huh?
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>>548719627
i found the patchnotes
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>>548719736
>ledditor discovers postchains
nta but stop embarrassing yourself lil bro
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>>548719153
0.3 was 4 months ago. most poe leagues fluctuate a couple of weeks, they always have.
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>>548719962
Huh? Im the one who made the other posts. Retard. Are you mad? Mad that I said retard? Retard
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^soft
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>>548720113
there is no fluctuation, just delays
>3.27 was 4 months and 20 days after 3.26
>0.3 was 4 months and 25 days after 0.2
both of these should have been 4 months after the previous league

0.4 is RUSHED because the previous leagues were delayed, dont you understand that?
jonathan mandated that 0.4 is out on the last working week before christmas
its only 3 months and 10 days after 0.3 instead of 4 months and 40 days after 3.27 instead of 2 months
it is too early because the previous leagues were too late
because their approach of going back and forth between the games is dogshit
also see the part where 3.27 was the worst league since kalandra and arguably worse than kalandra if you go by raw player numbers
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retard
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Is the league reveal stream in a couple days or is that just a 30 second teaser?
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>>548720679
forgot to mention
the only league that WASNT delayed was 0.2
you know why? because they didnt fucking work on poe1 at all in the time between 0.1 and 0.2
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>>548720679
>there is no fluctuation
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>life builds have access to better offense and defense scaling
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>>548721124
thanks for proving my point dipshit, theres 1 single league that took longer than 4 months in 7 years of poe history
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>>548721215
>wasn't even one of the correct claws available to buy yesterday
fugggg I wanted to play it but leagues too dead
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>>548721398
what?
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>>548721274
they explained switching to a 4 month cycle for 1&2 because 8 leagues a year would burn everyone out.
when did you start playing poe? they've gone over all this several times over the last few years.
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>>548721521
retardbro....
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>>548721215
all those builds are scaling int
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>>548721641
what point are you even trying to argue
look
the approach of 1 team, 2 games doesnt work
poe1 leagues are delayed and shit quality
poe2 leagues are delayed
except for 0.4 which was rushed as i just explained to you 5 times and which will be terrible as a result
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>>548721718
thats the claw for the build gigaretardbro
not that you need to buy it because you can make it with the tree in like 5 attempts
theres even ones with % strength if you really want to pay extra for that instead of a good corrupt
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>>548721124
this looks like 12 weeks (plus pre-launch week) were the norm, and pretty much all deviations were longer than that. then they started working on poe 2 as a separate project rather than a major patch to poe 1, and lost their consistency until it crashed entirely during settlers.
which fits what chris said at gdc, i.e. that fluctuations are bad for a seasonal game because it fucks with expectations (a streamer had to tell him this).
then they announced the 4-month schedule, which they already haven't been able to stick to.

>>548721641
re-read >>548720679
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>>548716954
check the 'cord before posting, we hate PoE2 uniques for being OP
don't make me warn you again thanks
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>>548722047
i'm sorry, what are they scaling?
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big shards incoming
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>"life based builds have access to better offense and defense scaling", he says, retardedly.
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>>548722353
NOO THAT DOESNT COUNT THEY ARE SCALING INT TOO
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>>548722353
>20k es
>doesnt even break 100k ehp
lmao
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>>548722268
Int is a scaling vector associated with ES. Your claim "life has ACCESS" keyword fucking ACCESS TO BETTER VECTORS implies the (things that life builds use to scale damage/def) VECTORS are better, NOT builds that scale life vs. ES stacking builds. AND you'd still be fucking wrong you fucking nigger.

See ^^^^ Energy blade
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>>548721997
chris said leagues need to be consistent and clearly communicated, not that they need to x weeks long.
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>be me, cop
>abuse my power by vindictively stalking some guy i don't like for years
>follow him around the internet and harass him
yeah feels pretty good to waste taxpayer money. any builds for this feel?
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>>548722639
my god dude
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Here's your dogshit dissolution life stacker builds bro! Woah, you got me good you little shit, kill yourself

>inb4 rebutting retardedly
I won't have it
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Oh yeah
I'm ready to map
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das right, poe 1 has worse balance than poe 2
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Chris Wilson in his interview with Erik Olofsson talks about starting PoE 2's development in 2017 which is kinda crazy because the leagues they were putting out in 2017 was stuff like Legacy and Abyss. It kinda obliterates the point that PoE 2 was ruining PoE 1 when basically all of modern PoE including everything post 3.0 was DURING PoE 2's development.
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what is this retard chimpout when petrified blood+progenesis alone is better defensively than anything es has access to
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>>548722960
you don't need to scale insane amounts of life for defense and damage.
you don't need to do it with es either, in most cases big es pools are a byproduct of damage scaling.
this is the build ben won the 3.27 hcssf uber boss event with.
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>>548723297
>It kinda obliterates the point that PoE 2 was ruining PoE 1 when basically all of modern PoE including everything post 3.0 was DURING PoE 2's development
if you assume that they had been neglecting poe1 in favor of poe2 this whole time yeah
pretty dumb assumption
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>>548723297
no it doesn't
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>>548722302
sending one out myself, good luck!
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"poe2 isnt negatively affecting poe1" is such a retarded take it probably isnt even trolling because that would be too dumb to say as a joke
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>>548723297
it proves that leadership changed and things went to shit at some point
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>>548723449
>shifting the goals
He did it, he actually tried to rebut retardedly even though I prebunked him. Shame
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>>548723449
what are you even on about
life builds have better scaling because... someone killed uber dread in less than a day?
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>>548723827
it would be easier to take you seriously if you understood how any of these builds worked.
you are literally just going to poeninja and looking for big numbers lol
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making passionate love to ds_lily
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>>548721981
it's funny how confidently stupid you are
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somehow it seems that the average iq itt dropped by around 30 since the poe2 league "hype" started
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Insider here
Cutedog_ died when his new house exploded
It was very sad
His dog survived though thankfully
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>>548724126
this seems to happen every time for whatever reason
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>>548724094
okay im actually curious what you think the item for that build is. i thought you realized your mistake and just disappeared in shame but since you are doubling down, please enlighten me how wrong i am
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>>548723952
yes anon, builds that use energy shield to scale damage have high energy shield pools.
builds that use mana to scale damage have high mana pools.
builds that use life to scale damage have high life pools.
you cracked the code!
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>>548724310
but that build isnt using life to scale damage
did you just see 6k life and assume its a life stacker?
whats going on
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>>548724014
Again, your initial claim was "life has ACCESS TO BETTER SCALING VECTORS"

Would you care to substantiate this claim with evidence? Particularly with evidence that refutes the damage and defense numbers I've showcased?
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>>548723780
poe2 is positively affecting poe1
you are currently in a league where it's possible to sell items below 50c after week 1
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>>548724310
and?
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>>548724438
you don't need obscene amounts of life or es unless you are using it to scale damage, here is an example.
>uhhh ok but like, that build don't has big number life?
>>548724515
you realize more than one person can think you are retarded right?
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>>548723029
nice es stacker
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>>548724554
i dont know whats more retarded, implying that you couldnt make 50c sales 1 month into mercenaries or that async trade couldnt exist without poe2. great job with this post
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Less time trading = less players playing = less ggg will spend on it
Reddit killed their own game begging for async lmao
ggnubz
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>>548724691
>they have it better!
>they don't need it better!
you are not helping your case lmao. keep shifting those goalposts
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>>548724094
>>548724295
any chance for a follow up on this?
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>>548725102
i assume you are just trolling at this point. i know /poeg/ has a lot of shitters, but you can't be this stupid.
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>>548725373
I just assumed you hadn't played the league and didn't know how foulborn items work. I still think that btw
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>>548725395
What is it? Do life builds have access to better scaling or do they not need it? I am getting mixed messages here. You could try another ad hom, could work, maybe a non seq? Hmmmm, yeah, just talk about hcssf again, that'll do it
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hcssfr btw
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>>548725595
so youre not going to say what item you thought you needed? thats disappointing
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>>548725595
im curious because i have 9 of these from when i still ran the fortresses and i saved them to corrupt if i feel like playing the build some more
did you not search it correctly on the trade site? did you think it was such a rare item that you couldnt possibly believe that 4k of them were listed?
help me out
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>>548725671
"better" compared to what?
did you mean in your opinion it is the "best"?
thats fine.
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>>548726145
"better" compared to the OP of this reply chain you fucking moron
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guidefollow 2
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>experiment in 2
>oops out of skill rocks
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>>548722097
this helm is the best explanation of why poe2 is shit
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>>548726449
cool, i value your opinion.
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minions shit = no play
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>dead league
>active thread
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>>548673828
Not even GGG got it right
Lightning in a bottle
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>>548726948
anons are anticipating my big shard shipment
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i just dropped a huge shard if you know what i mean
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>>548727496
jonathan?
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>>548726732
as a poe 2 enjoyer, this is legitimately one of my biggest criticisms. Why are skill gems so rare and why can't a level 19 gem create gems of any lower level
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what was wrong with gem xp for killing monsters in a monster killing game...
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>>548727909
they need to either lower the ilvl of uncuts or give us t16s as natural drops.
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DOG DOO DOO TWO
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>>548725778
I've been dabbling in sc ruthless and there are 6 people in chat. Have you seen a soul in hardcore?
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druid will flop
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Druid will save poe
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>>548665484
PoE used to have so much soulufl artwork done. PoE 2 I've seen Alva's feet, Queen of Filth and some Sekema tittywork pictures, but nothing compared to how much fanwork used to come through about PoE.
I'd wager there is more rule 34 about Einhar then the Sekema Asala.
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>>548723297
PoE2 was just a big patch at that point and things only got fucked up after the two games meme started
Johnny needed to drop PoE1 if he was gonna make a new game.
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>>548729239
2 campaigns 1 game would have killed poe.
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POE2 GOOD
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>>548729239
Remember the end of the world reaction to the expedition nerfs? One of the most pathetic gaming things I've seen.
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>>548729830
Buff Rog Crafting.
Add Cluster Jewels. Add Ascendancy Gems, Delve, Blight, and Heist.
Add fun bs pvp league that adds a couple players or just one to PoE 2s version of the Halls at the end.
Also give us a hideout that has Alva bathing in a waterfall but tastefully hidden like the Occultist Vile Bastion.
Then I'll say PoE 2 is okay.
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>>548730330
i would be surprised if they added clusters, ggg openly hate them.
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>>548730418
Tbf I just shitpost about it I would only want them in a limited like limited 1 small cluster jewel that way you could have a bit more priority on something rather then running across the tree.
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>>548728363
why?
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>>548730330
Yes, we need an Alva bath hideout
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>>548730734
Alva is BANNED from bathing. Her jungle sweat is for MY TONGUE only
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>>548730330
>Alva bathing
she would never
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>>548730615
monsters need to be ilvl 82 to drop 18-20 uncuts, or ilvl 86 to drop 19-20 uncuts. if you aren't farming t16+ constantly lvl 20 uncuts are extremely rare.
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>>548729897
players: powercreep is ruining the fun of the game i cant make fun unique builds
devs: ok we will nerf things to allow for more power in the future
players: NOOO DONT NERF THINGS BUFF THEM TO MATCH THE META SKILLS
devs: but you just said you dislike powercreep
players: NO NERFSSSSS ONLY BUFFS
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>>548730330
add idols too
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>>548731192
You did this to yourself
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>>548731476
idols would be a great system for poe2, especially with how barebones the atlas passive tree is now.
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>>548731383
players mostly just want bad skills buffed
streamers are the ones that wanted everything nerfed for some reason
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>>548731192
How does that breach Code of Conduct?
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>>548731738
its 'political'
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>>548731710
>players mostly just want bad skills buffed
I still hold that this is retarded nonsense. The only bad skills left in the game are shit like Sweep. Wow, a person can't use sweep, big deal.
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>>548731547
I spoke facts. If you don't like those facts, maybe don't fucking scam people in my country for about 10 million euros, you fucking pigger.
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>>548732161
I'm not the one who reported you, all I'm saying is you were clearly baiting people who would easily get baited
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>>548731738
Saying anything against Ukraine is literally racist, chud.
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>>548732141
>The only bad skills left in the game are shit like Sweep
when people say they want buffs to skills, they want buffs to skill so that they don't have to build it in any specific way and can still do all content which is equally retarded
>Arc is viable
>w-w-well Arc isn't viable if you don't go archmage or spellblade or lifestacking! If I just use increased elemental damage and added damage, why can't I kill Uber Exarch????
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>>548732141
post your stormbind character
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>>548732508
mb, the only bad skills left in the game are shit like Sweep and Stormbind. Wow, a person can't use sweep or stormbind, big deal
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>>548731192
a monke denied his banan
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>>548732472
>character building game
>stat/life/mana/etc stacking is mandatory and every other option sucks
Bad design.
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>>548732291
>clearly baiting people
If that screen is from global 1488, the argument is moot, since it's pretty much constand baiting.
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>>548732712
okay but what about Volatixic Burst? I bet you don't even remember what that does
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>>548732508
you could probably do a version of this stormbind build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBuzWwEle_U
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>>548732798
>If I just use increased elemental damage and added damage, why can't I kill Uber Exarch????
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I find it highly ironic and amusing and very sad that the game jonafat and baldman revered and tried to emulate had a free and open chat system while they have created one of the most draconian in the entire online gaming sphere only topped by certain gacha chat systems. They don't even realize that they have made a mockery of the thing they look up to.
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>>548723685
where are my big shards
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>>548732917
Voltaxic Burst is viable
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>>548733032
Hey if you don't want that, I'll take it! Sorry for no shards, anon. I got 8 minutes left on mine because my shit got jumped by a pirate in the middle of a map.
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>>548731192
Everyone disliking indian scammers for racial reasons specifically is a good thing.
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>>548732959
Many such cases
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Most people do not care about killing Ubers. They could delete them from the game and only a small minority would be that upset, until the streamers convinced them otherwise
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>>548732959
D2 chat was problematic and we now have technology to make it as it should have been.
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>>548733587
okay?
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>>548733587
retard
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>>548733587
I asked
Post more opinions with genshin characters attached
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>>548733718
d2 had chat bans
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>>548733587
ggg just need to add some junk to white and yellow maps so shitters feel like they are making progress.
back in the day they could farm doctors or just iir/iiq farm low tier maps.
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>>548733032
>>548733271
very middling, but that's alright
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>>548734263
what happened to your sword nigga
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>>548734458
>>548734458
>>548734458
>>548734458
>>548734458
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>>548673828
>LET'S PLAY LE 30 YEAR OLD GAME CUS LE MEME AND I'M HOMOOOOOOOSEXUAL NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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PUSSY REVEAL STREAM
IT'S HAPPENING BROS
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>>548734442
you wouldnt believe this nigga
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>>548735434
>cock reveal
No thanks
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>>548735434
/vg/ schizos have already shown me troon wounds, so I'm not interested
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>>548734606
Shartybro its not 30 year old and you will die in the nuclear war before you hit 30 so have some fun mkay?



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