Jainerd EditionPrevious Thread>>548563384>Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck Trackers & Statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/expansions-adventures/across-the-timeways - new expansionhttps://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>Helpful Linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex's article on gaming mentalityhttps://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shitQuestion of the Thread:What deck are you ranking up with this month?
miniset next month WILL Av
i just realized, the entire plot of this expansion is stopping a 9 mana do nothing
>>549088173Fits in diaper warrior just fine
>>549087084Thanks, unfortunately I'll have to wait several days for 300 gold because blizzard does not want people to play their game
This is what playing DK feels like
I crafted amirdrassil and new heights to play Briarspawn drake and I regret nothing this deck is a blast
A good idea for the twist game mode would be to have dual class like the brawl but have pairs of classes rotate each day. So for example, one day Rogue and Warlock would be paired and if you picked either class you'd get to pick cards from the other. You should be able to pick whichever class you want to play but not which other class to combine it with. That way the meta wouldn't turn into 24/7 rogue slop and you'd see way more interesting deck ideas tested.
>>549088887>he is only useful with a time travel cardIt’s like poetry, it rhymes
What‘s the brawl deck
>>549088887>steamclean youmeanwhile priest can generate additional Zarimi or Murozond from HP/Discover dragon
>>5490863612026 is the year!!!Age of the Panda incoming!!!
been playing 6 different classes but somehow always face counters, probably lost 90% of games today because this game is rigged trash
>>549090649fuck no just bring back beloved metas or mess with weird expansion combination. we should get a format free from the bullshit of wild and the retardation of standard so we can runaway.
had the absolute worst streak of total bullshit>renothal sloppile warlock with exactly wing welding on 4 to clear my board of 5/5 treants>standard aggro paladin that curves out perfectly and kills me on 4 with crusader aura>libram paladin that wins the game on turn 3 thanks to prismatic beam>excavate diaper knight that rngs the exact perfect answer to 3 3/3 treants on turn fucking 3, rock from turn 2 kobold miner and top decked plague strikejust grinding out the housing event quests and I'm so fucking tilted I don't even want to log in tomorrow for those dailies because I'm still gonna be tilted from tonight
The game needs faster card changing updates. This is absolutely ridiculous that they're leaving the game like this during the holidays. Fucking clown devs.
balance patch next week will save us
I just want warrior hunter and obviously shaman to die… shouldn’t be that difficult right, Cora?
no better card to tell you what side of the algorithm you're on than puzzlemaster khadgarwhen it's your turn to win, you'll get like 10 games in a row where basically every single trigger of the orb is legitimately helpful/outright game winning. it feels like the card is actually doing what it's supposed to be doing (i.e., casting "helpful spells")and then the other side, when you've been winning too much and it's your turn to lose, it does the exact opposite. it's NEVER fucking useful. it never casts blizzard when you need it to. it always casts mirror images or frost barrier when those cards do literally nothing. it casts fireballs on frozen minions when you have your opponent board locked so they can play some kind of overpowered game-swinging minion on an empty slot that they otherwise wouldn't have. it never casts flamestrike when you need it. it just goes on and on, and it's so obvious because it goes in streaks just like the game typically goes in rigged streaks. you win a ton and then you lose a ton, and khadgar tells you exactly which side of the algo you're on
>>549105395anon start Nooooticing.....and they call me schizo whole year...
monk will save us evoker will cement us
Bro I hate to get everyone to try an OP deck but fuck it try that Chump deck that is so horrifically OP will get banned. At least won't link it.
monk will cement usevoker will save us
>>549106321OK I got owned by Elemental Mage so wait up hmm
>>549103904It better
they call me..... The Noticer
FIX THE GAME, BLIZZARD
unplayable meta
cliffside dh is the biggest retard deck ever
>>549107128
Alright I'm actually done with Elise. Maybe that's the card ruining the game. Seems whoever plays it on curves automatically wins.
why does /hsg/ hate neutral legendaries that aren't dogshit or nerfed because of rogue and druid
>>549111729Elise and Zil are gamebreaking because they give every class a way to stabilize board and life total. Giving locations super powerful board clearing effects, that you get for free on the turns you need them, enables so much greed that otherwise would be punished by people for you taking a turn off to play 7 or 8 mana do nothing.
>>549112378TRVTH NVKE
Hearthstone is a rare game where winning feels worse than not playing the game
>>549111832because neutral legendaries that can go in pretty much every deck are bad for the game, retard
>>549112378I don't think zilliax is even close to being as much of a problem as Elise is, it's much more a late game card
>>549113284Zil is a problem because he's board stabilization and +12 life at the minimum if not a full heal from either handbuffs or multiple trades to clear, which means that you can't finish the game with burn to go over the top.
>>549113131oh hello odin from not hit game shadowverse
I CAN'T CALM DOWNFUCKING PROTOSS MAGE IS A FUCKING CANCER ARCHETYPEFUCK YOU, BLIZZARD
>Griftah>Elise>Zyllax>CeasselessThey have to stop making this kind of cancerous shit legendaries that fit into every deck and only bring overpowered effects to the table.Classes should have a defined identity and neutral minions should have generic non-absolute-game-twisting abilities that make such classes overcome their weaknesses.
>>549116323>defined identityTNXhttps://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/smxnw0/leeroy_jenkins_created_a_strategy_that_revolved/
Absolutely feasting on shaman
>>549118409Whelp. Just made legend with Bwon DK. Absolutely crushing shaman on my road to legend, 8-0 by the time I reach legend. So yeah, Bwon DK > Shaman.
>>549118409>6h played DUDE STOP this is NOT World of warcraft raid...
>>549088889You're supposed to spend money on it, or microsoft will axe it.
>>549119931How did you beat the mages? Weren't they Protoss?
>it knows they generated 1-mana spells on earlier turns and haven't casted them yet>it knows almost literally any spell would be good - frostbolt or fireball as removal, either blizzard or flamestrike, even ice barrier would be good, even mirror images wouldn't be completely worthless>it chooses counterspell>next turn, once again, a wide variety of spells would be good, the only bad thing would be single target removal on the deathrattle minion which would summon more power of minions. pretty much any other result would be good>it casts single target removal on the deathrattle minionit's just random though guys. i learned the word variance in high school stats class. that's all it is. don't worry about it. stop noticing
>>549116323bob also i got three 3 freeze bob'd from a hunter that shit need to go
>find a deck you like>it loses to diaper warriorlife is hard
>>549122773They were elemental.I mostly lost to Protoss Mage.
>trade one time>could've gotten him to 2 health>draw shit>get draw card>get 2 damage spell to face>Could've won after not getting shit all gameI COULD'VE FUCKING GOTTEN HIM FUCK.
>>549119931Whenever stuff like this gets posted, the rigged and forced 50 anon will conveniently disappear.
>getting to 51% winrate with my rock deck >opponent plays paper>there is literally nothing I can doNice rig blizzard
>>549131187Anyone who unironically posts about forced 50% in any game with MMR is outing themselves as a fucking retard and can be safely ignored.
>>549116323Griftah and Elise are nowhere on the same level as Zilliax and Ceaseless. They force the game to be more otk centric, because if you leave them with a single hp they clear the board and full heal
>get rogue to 8 health in wild>garrote combo>secret which makes rogue immune>I die at 1 healthblizzard just knows you're about to rank to diamond and you get fucked in the ass back to plat 5
>>549131405Griftah being 5 mana Mindcontrol or heal 12 is insanely busted, and Elise is board control and/or armor (the better healing) and/or massive value and tempo that also heavily incentivizes OTK because if they get the 5 mana location down with raptors, you're never going to get control of the board back.
>>549131405Elise on 4 is by far the strongest possible play. In term of power level if played,Elise > Zilliax > Griftah > CeaselessCeaseless is amazing but cost so much that it is only usable in control vs control.
>>549131627>>549131632Maybe there are stats about this and Elise and Griftah have a higher wr, but Zilliax is a lot more tilting than any of those. With Elise and Griftah they still got lucky and got the good effect they needed right then. Zilliax always takes control of the board, kills your minions, heals for 12 minium and heals even more when you try to remove them
>>549132380Zilliax is also turn 9
>>549132380Griftah being a 3/7 to hit what you were looking for doesn't excuse it being fucking retarded when it does. Elise is even better odds with a 3/7 then 3/6. Neither of them should be balanced around people picking/only getting offered the dogshit options that no one actually does like like the deathrattle damage for Elise or 3 random legendaries for Griftah.
>>549132380every single game gets decided by elise on 4 its so fucking boring
First arena round. DK opponent is easily up to 60+ hp and I can't do shit against it
if only blizzard was as good at making a stable client than they were at rigging the game according to that one poster
bros, i dont think arena is worth it with how many of us get high blood pressure from it
>>549134330arena is def not worth it unless you have spare tickets
>>549134601i have a fuckton of spare tickets and only spent them on the brawliseum (it stucked 2 per tho for some reason)With how many SEAmonkeys are making free accounts to draft the perfect barcode decks in arena it's a waste of time and money
>>549133898The reason that the client is so unstable and the game's performance is so bad despite having so simple graphics, is the extensive rigging that happens in the background, server side.Sometimes the game will outright make you disconnect and lose if you start winning a lost game.Happened to me recently and I was laughing.I will be laughing even more when microsoft shuts them down, now that rigging is common knowledge discussed in more popular forums than 4chan.
Is this guy bugged? Why do I keep seeing it summon 3-5 crabs, even without spellcraft copying nagas in their board?
>>549135041>The reason that the client is so unstable>is the extensive rigging that happens server sidethe rig-poster has enlightened us once again with his ironclad logic
>>549135515I'm not the rig poster but I know that the game is rigged, knew it for years and now everyone knows.
>>549135587?
algoschizos make a good argument butwhat if they're just playing like shit?
>>549132493>>549132754>>549133297I probably only hate Zilliax because I dont play control. When it drops it signifies the advantage turned around
>>549136005Yes. It does. That is why it is 9 mana. It is control's best way to relive pressure. It is good but not as good as Elise imo.
>>549135785With how this general loves battlegrounds, which has actual rigging built into itLITERALLY NONE OF MY OPPONENTS RUN MURLOCS AND I ROLL TEN FUCKING TIMES AND GET ***ZERO*** FUCKING MURLOCS ARE YOU KIDDING ME
>>549138329Jeff is prime example of how rigging for BG doesn't exist
i cant believe my big titty girl azshara finally made it into the meta...trying the deck out now bros with the miniset i just gotwill report back on its status
>>549138329when they give you quests for beasts but there were no beasts (before update)i stopped playing battlegrounds after thatI only do it for the weekly
>>549138926I opened here last night, gonna try this out
>>549140228based, here's the decklist so you dont have to go scramblingI faced a mirror match of it where it ran magical dollhouse and toy chest i believe? (i lost) not sure what it would replace desu### Azshara-sama# Class: Druid# Format: Standard# Year of the Raptor## 2x (0) Innervate# 2x (1) Waveshaping# 2x (2) Ebb and Flow# 2x (2) Trail Mix# 2x (3) New Heights# 2x (3) Swipe# 2x (3) Tortollan Traveler# 2x (4) Blob of Tar# 1x (4) Elise the Navigator# 2x (4) Oaken Summons# 1x (5) Amirdrassil# 1x (5) Lady Azshara# 1x (4) The Well of Eternity# 1x (4) Zin-Azshari# 1x (6) Gnomelia, S.A.F.E. Pilot# 1x (7) Endbringer Umbra# 2x (9) Seismopod# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (4) Twin Module# 1x (5) Perfect Module# 2x (10) Briarspawn Drake# AAECAZICCMekBuHrBq+HB4KYB/WYB/ioB/moB/qoBwuunwTDugakuwbzygb35Qb75Qal/AaHnAfZngeqrwesrwcAAQP1swbHpAb3swbHpAbu3gbHpAYAAA==# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
>top 2 bg>opponent has apm pirates, clearly clicking his soul out between turns>I have the most disgusting laty scam board, with reborn belchers, macaw and more poison in hand>he only has 5% lethal>he gets itI am actually glad I lost. It would have been the most unfair win everPic rel is absolutely broken. You can’t have a divine shield murloc with belcher. It could be a 1/1, divine shield, no ability and still be broken. I have no idea why they gave him divine shield to begin with
>>549141043Didn’t have Amirdrassil so I put in the new Home spell insteadManaged to copy the same Seisomopod twice in one turn with it, getting me a 18/18 and a 36/36Pretty fun deck, thanks
>>549143626no problem anon!i didnt have amir until today so i was using greybough before the eventthe new home spell deck looks good desuit works well but im wondering what i'd replace it withMaybe remove ebb and flow?
>>549143845(me)card* not deck
anyone who still believes hs isn't rigged is a retarded goyslave who follows the safe opinion of the reddit hivemind
>>549144050i hate to tell you anon but leddit also thinks this game is rigged
>>549144050Explain this >>549119931
>>549143845
>>549146092so this is the power of midnight's housing...based board anon!i got into a fight with a diaper warrior soon after...
Bros... I think this meta is good
birdwatching should cost 3 mana
increase the cost of all protoss win cons by 2
castrate all protoss players and shove rusty nail ebola covered dildos up their asses and cement them in place
send all protoss players to live in somalia
>>549156472Yes!
rape all protoss players with dogs and pigs
send all protoss players to palestine
I don't blame protoss players entirely. Blizzard are the ones at fault for creating the bullshit cards in the first place.
peel the skin off all protoss players with rusty potato peelers and push them down a mountain of salt
kill all protoss player apologists
give all protoss players massive kidney stones that have to peed out
>check thread>Hardstuck sTRANSdard player having a meltdown Iconic emotional immaturity from estrogen abuse moment!
>wonder why druid suddenly is good>they are literally bug abusingtruly the most beta class of them all
>>549159857what bug?
>>549160582final frontier can discover illegal cards such as deal 30 Cthun
>>549161952Damn that sounds gay as fuckI am so glad I already made legend
>>549158953did you really expect anything else?
>>549161952what else? any other good illegal cards to get off of it?
>>549161952Is there some other requirement to guarantee it, or just get lucky?
>>549165306druid titan
>>549165783lmao
>>549165652not that I am aware off but the pool is not that big and one of the good ones usually shows up when I face them. Eonar and Cthun are game winning but onxyia and neptulon on turn 5 or 6 is also pretty back breaking
>>549144183meta deck with busted cards hard to rig because almost all draws/discovers good worst case is 2 wakeners and 2 security in you starting hand but thats almost never happens
lollmao even
>>549174598so did you win?
>>549174983yes I didnot like winning matters in this mode anyway
anyone got any fun wildychud decks to try out?getting a bit bored of aggro
>>549174598and they banned dude who spreads this stats to 2 minions..... Murloc chad still eating good Boar time is over chuds
>>549180423imbue mage
>6 winsNot gonna lie, spamming Sylvanas was fun.Also fuck protoss mages.
why does pr*toss mage get people to want to add you after they get beat?
So cool how if Elemental Shaman a feck with zero draw just happens to get both deal damage give elementals +1 within 5 turns it just instantly wins no question asked haha I love coradecks
I have 5 minions in my Azshara druid and I have 100% hit rate getting Elise EVERY SINGLE TIME with oaken summons. Can't wait until she gets nerfed to 5 mana holy shit, literally 5 games in a row hitting her.
>>549194341should've played around it desu
>>549194341>using oaken summons lmao
KILL PROTOSS MAGES YOU FUCKING INCOMPETENT CLOWNS
This card is custom hearthstone levels ofshit design. >WILDDDDDDDmy matchup against aggro demon hunter is entirely dependent on whether or not they play this turn 1. 6/6 worth of free stats with charge is fucking ridiculous, esp when its rng when and how many stats you even get the level of variance this early in the game is simply not fun. Ben brode tier design
>>549201824Ben Brode would've this card a 2 mana 1/1 with you drawing them into your hand rather than summoning them onto the board
>>549203042that was just the powerlevel of the cards in that day. by Ben Brode design i meant brode is an rngtard that loves le random he designed hearthstone expansions like hearthstone was a board game you played with your friends instead of emotionless strangers. implosion rolling 4 or lightning storm missing the 3 damage would be really funny if it happened to your buddy, less so if its just some random punk who got luckyFuck ben brode
6 wins in the shitty brawl only gives 4 packs. What a ripoff
>>549212105you got a rafaam enabler now so you have no excuse not to play rafaam decks
YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEE>YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEEYOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEE>YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEEYOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEE>YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEEYOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEE>YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREEEEE
>>549168009So if you play strong decks, the game is not rigged then?The game is only rigged if you play weak decks?
>>549203042Brode printed prince lmao.>>549201824>Play le funny pilot man>All the guys are on the bottom
treesloppa dr00d, menace of bronze 5
>>549228293>playing wow AND wildpeak degeneracy
>>549228293>playing treant druidabsolute fucking gigachad
Where the FUCK is my thonged elf pet to pole dance in the corner and dab on my opponent, blizzard?
>>549228293I beat two people playing this exact list with my even paladin maybe not exact but ya know
What decks are strong against Quest Warrior? I hate playing against control.
Playing cards before turn 8 is a failure of game design
>>549229594
MINISET SAVE US!!!!!
>>549229791>diaper warrior sucks against most decksmakes ya think
>>549229791How does Bwon DK fare against it?
>>549116323or they could print decent class cards again so you don't have to rely on the same neutral package in every single deck
>>549228293treant druid is a tier 1 deck in wildwell not some shit version with mulch muncher, but the good lists are
ANDREW FALLADOR!
QUEST NAGGAR DH IS not REAL!!!!Bronze to D5 was a breeze, didn't drop a single game, then the deck was raw fucking ass, after a constant D5->D3 I ended up playing the deck for next month (Nigger lasher warrior) instead and just got this funni screenshot after going to D1 with a real combo deck then doing the legend shit with this turd.Basically "Quest DH but like, bad" was the entire feeling, you can lose 30% rats and instantly lose right then and there because the naga is still a 1/3 for 3 for some UNGODLY reason so it dies to a wet fart. Also because it is 3 mana, even if you find her early, you need to get to 4, preferably 5 (or 4 plus a 1 mana discount on a naga) before going off, into a combo that doesn't even kill the opp most of the time.The deck, because it is so easily disrupted that it loses incredibly badly to aggro AND control somehow.Your lows are common and incredibly low, but I'm addicted to storming off so I keep playing this slop for funsies.Lasher is a real deck because people don't play weapon removal anymore, btw.
>>549229791a lot of these make no sense at all and people must suck playing the deckhow the fuck is fyrakk rogue favored???
My 2nd time legendary. I got it done with Bwonsamdi Death Knight!Let's fucking go!
>>549237761Because the list looks like this and Control DK isn't beating this level of greed, especially with Ashermane and Mirrex to steal the Quest rewards.
>>549239189gz you beat game on tutorial mode... now create your own deck
>>549239189congrats on paying blizzard enough for them to decide to allow you into legend.
>>549229594I usually beat them with my shitty imbue Paladin deck, since that thrives when given plenty of time to upgrade and shuffle portals without pressure
hsreplay is a fucking scam.>dragon warrior>elemental mage>ravenous cliff dive dhat best, the stats are heavily, heavily manipulated.
>>549248692HSreplay requires you to pay if you don't want to have the retards trapped in bronze destroying your stats, use HSguru.
>>549229594any control deck with steamcleaner and KJWheel warlock(or Raafam) Zarimi(or Antonidas) Priest Burgle rogue with infitine cards (just dont play espionage before cleaner)
>>549237761Usually because those decks have less than 200 games last weekDecks with 20,000 games have more accurate stats
>>549248692HSguru. Replay is up to gold at max.
>just play toki control mage bro what's the worst that could happen
>>549252517Not even getting a discount on them is crazy.
cubing the poison whelp is devious
>>549252517devs never tested Toki someone make cool flavor text and thats it... its 69% of cards made by this method
>>549253839why whelp ? you can cube blob or sleeper
>>549248692dragon warrior and cliff dive dh are both decks that can get you to legend
Turn 1 growlfinTurn 2 parrotTurn 3 turbulusConcede at that point because the game is 100% unwinnableEvery single fucking time can we kill this fucking deck already
>>549261293>Board based deck becomes good for a femtosecond>Trannies go into an estrogen infused rage because they can't mindlessly puke removals until they win
549261980I know you think this is a super funny and cool reply but posting the exact same shit to defend your retarded shaman deck gets a bit old
>>549262586also a lie because hagatha functionally plays like aggro. from turn 3 onwards it's vomiting anywhere from 10/10 to 20/20 worth of stats on the board turn after turn, the only time it will interact with the board is to make use of rush or remove taunts, test of the time you just go face every time because the onus on removing is on the opponent since shaman is literally never in danger. it has 60% wr into every deck in the game except discover hunter and protoss rogue. if it escapes nerfs one more week then this game is even more of a joke than I thought
>>549262586>>549262930I'd take a hundred years of a deck actually putting stuff on the board and playing the game over the Blood DK hellscape we had to endure during Ungoro, where every single turn was your faggot DK opponent going NUH-UH and removing everything you tried to do until you got bored and angry enough to quit.
>been in the hospital for a few days>remember I had a lot of fun for the first time in a while with the brawl>wonder what kind of zany combos it has settled on while I was away>7 egg locks in a row that fact that this gay egg is the only thing from that expansion that people actually play speaks volumes
>>549264164i remember seeing similar defense for the BBU DK list that was similarly dominant during ungoro, whatever the case I don't care nearly enough about muh purity of gameplay because the play pattern and end result is similar, two completely overpowered decks that have 2 or 3 "bad matchups" and by bad matchups we mean decks that can actually win a game against them and are widely accessible and choking out the ladder. I don't care if he's summoning stuff to the board when the board is unanswerable by any class except 20 removals 9 armour gains and ungoro quest Warrior and in fact the only non warrior classes that do well are classes that can ignore the board and win through other means
is time wapred ghoul supposed to square your scaling?
Is it another expansion of Mage doesn't have a wincon and you have to hope to generate it during the game.
The only 'wincon' should be to fight for the board with minions, spells and locations and then slam face. Everything else is gimmicks and exploitative tricks that should be nerfed from possibility
>>549267981Protoss Mage?
>>549266272un'goro2 really was the shittiest expac
>>549269781I WISHtribe synergy decks have always been my favorite. was pretty hype for drenai but they seemed to have just abandoned it and focus on gimmicks instead of a gradual tribe build up. sad!
>warlock removed seismopod with layoverI think that was my record. 64 atk on Briarspawn
>win a Azshara druid mirror>he seethes so much he adds me to call me a niggerI don't think thats how you protect the wild
What's the best Azshara druid list? I feel like shit like Vistah or Owlonius is pure bait.
>>549275146they are all shit
Play Toki mage
>>549275146Saw one streamer doing memes with the spellburst elusive taunt and the charging pirate for OTKs
>>549100712same, this game is 20% knowing what to play and 80% luck
>>549275146the one where your opponent doesnt do anything the first 4 turns
>>549135785>Game starts>I go second, like 9 times out of 10, nothing new>draw an 8, a 7 and a 4>sigh..>keep the 4 because it's essential to my deck and mulligan the rest>get another 8 and a 10>sigh again>literally cannot play until turn 4 because all I draw are high cards even tho half my deck are low cards>lol bro, you played so badthis have been all my games since the update
>>549276527
>>549282745what even is your deck
>>549283186lately cliffdive DH, but now I'm just hate playing protoss mage and roping every turn so the nigger decks don't climb
>>549283296ive done this
>>549283452I can't help myself against quest warrior, these assholes gameplan is to do nothing but stack armor and remove your board for free for 10 turns so fuck them
>>549283558i dont know how cliff dive DH works as i dont play itbut you can really fuck a diaper warrior if he has shit draw and if u aggro him down real good
>>549276527https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDLWwOOpkr0not playing it, clark
it's almost like /ourfrog/ never left...
>nigger DK opponent plays Fyrrak>has 1 mana left>fyrakk gives him a reduced brewmaster to take it back for exactly 1 manahahahaha, this game man
>monk will have 2 hero powersholy based
>>549284995It's Kubu's deck
>>549284995You will play timecucker toki
>>549276527>toki mage>you never win because of toki or even discover any fun spells most of the timemage is a cuck freeze stall close since sif is gone
>>549292829isnt dragon mage just sif mage but longer?
>>549293126dragon mage sucks and is also fucking boring as shitsif mage was fair and fun
What deck is even funAzshara druid is the closest I've found to fun but instalosing Vs aggro isn't that fun
>toki mage>look inside>ceaseless zilliax kiljaeden
>65% of the deck are cards below 5 cost>10th game in a row where my starting hand consists of 5+ cost cards>Enemy has perfect low cost combos most of the timeI fucking hate this game
>>549286695frog comp is cancer and always has been
dargon warrior got an update fellasno lo'gosh so no slow late game while waiting for shit at the bottom of your deck to combothe meta uses zephrys but im using griftah because im a poorfag### Dragon Warrior 2# Class: Warrior# Format: Standard# Year of the Raptor## 2x (1) Darkrider# 2x (1) Giftwrapped Whelp# 2x (1) Sanguine Depths# 2x (2) Brood Keeper# 2x (2) Petal Peddler# 2x (2) Precursory Strike# 2x (2) Shadowflame Suffusion# 2x (2) Stonecarver# 2x (3) Whelp of the Infinite# 1x (4) Elise the Navigator# 1x (4) Griftah, Trusted Vendor# 2x (4) Stadium Announcer# 1x (5) Tormented Dreadwing# 1x (6) Chrono-Lord Epoch# 1x (7) Naralex, Herald of the Flights# 1x (8) The Great Dracorex# 2x (8) Windpeak Wyrm# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000# 1x (4) Twin Module# 1x (5) Perfect Module# 1x (10) Fyrakk the Blazing# AAECAdnJBgjHpAan0wahgQesiAfBjweCmAeEnQfxrwcL6qgG4+YGqvwGq/wG94MH6IcH0pcHnpkHt60HmLAHj7EHAAED9bMGx6QG97MGx6QG6N4Gx6QGAAA=# # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
two games in a row I played steamcleaner instantly after diaper warrior played his quest reward and each time they had time warp in hand
and how do the literally always, 100% of the time draw the ramp card on curve
>>549261293parrot should cost 3 considering what it does
>>549302740Definitely not. If anything bellhops should be 4.
>>549302964they'll probably nerf bellhops to summon a plain 3/3 instead of a copy
>>549302740>3 mana location that saves you 3 manawhat a deal
>greybough mirror >both boards full>no cards in hand>we both just hero power and end turn as quick as possible>Win because fatigue fun game
>>549302740sanctuary is fine. its one of the few cards that actually helps you come out ahead on the coin. good design imo
>>549304196>How long can this go on?
can we just kill all protos mage?
Isn't waveshaping a very bad card? Discover a card but delete 2 from your deck seems like it will lose you more games than anything
>>549304196Yea getting hit with a 5/4 and a 3/3 on turn 3 (after double 1/1 turn 2) really will kill the deckHagatha could eat like 6 nerfs and it'd still be broken. I'd start with turbulus to 4, hagatha to 5, flight of the Firehawk to +1/+1 or 4 mana and sanctuary to this turn only. And the deck will probably still be op.
>>549307732it's a 1 mana discover that puts the other discovered cards at the bottom of your decknever lost me a game and very powerful desu
>>549308124Being at the bottom of your deck means you won't reach them unless you use another discover. If it gives you a bunch of options that you need to draw you're fucked. If dredge was still a thing it'd be godlike but right now simply discover would be better.
>Mulligan>get 2x 8 Cards>coin my only card draw>it draws the other 8 CardAlgorithm says it's my time to lose, I guess
>>549308339My hand is 8/8/6/8/10 against 4 minions on turn 2kekekekek
>>549307732>>549308327bro who the fuck cares about your 2 cards at the bottom it's 1 mana draw+
>>549308327most druid decks still run it as an easy discover and it just means you have an extra tool for later.bonus points if you're playing bottom druid and using krona and contingency to synergize with it
>>549307732>1 mana discover a good card and thin your deck of two less good onesYea, bro. That's why Hunter never ran old Tracking before. Does it occasionally mean that you hit your deck's key card and one of it's less important but still strong cards? Yea, but normally it doesn't and you have a large portion of your deck that is not relevant in whatever matchup you're facing down that you'd happily delete.
>>549308746like I know you druids are spoiled with shit like fucking aquatic form which was a ZERO MANA draw but still get a grip
>>549308879Tracking doesnt doom cards to the end of your deck
>>549311449tracking used to discard the other options and it was played in most hunter deck
I know the cool thing is hating him but this game is going to be so fucking trash once zilliax rotates unless they print similar comeback cards
im trying to play broxigar dh but it just doesnt do anything
>>549314898play it like a shit aggro deck
>>549314898Wild or Standard?
how is this shit fucjkiing card not nerfedf yet when will leeches laeve IM SO FUCKIGN TIRED OF FUCKING LEECHES KILL YOURSELF KILLY OURSELF KILL YOUSRELF KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSEK
>>549314646You shouldn't be allowed to comeback in such an egregious way after doing fuck all all game. Literally get out of jail free card.
>>549307732The cards you don't draw might as well not exist. There were always going to be 2 bottom cards on your deck, the only thing this does is giving you knowledge of what they are. Like others said, old Tracking straight up discarded the cards that weren't picked, it was still run in most decks.
another set where divine shield is obnoxiously broken
>>549314898the amount of times i've actually seen broxigar activate is insanely low, i don't know why it's still in decks other than for the weapon and occasionally fucking up a protoss priests res
>my 50% forced lose game>piss mage nigger *magically* *dodged* 2 rats and OG voljin from champion spell>win next game vs piss priest by board lock him with 10 000 year card*fair game* my ass
>remove aoe spells from my relic mage>5 shartniggers in rowSTOP FUCKING SCAN MY DECK
Finally shartniggers endedTime to shine my handmade deckended with reverse timewarp
Am I being gaslit into thinking Bwon DK is good? I don't see that deck in VSreport or HSguru.
>>549336639people figured out vanilla leech dk is better
>>549336639Hs guru still have 4 mana leech draws Just look at BBU DK thats same shit but few cards replaced (mostly Fyrak package >> Deathrattle package)
>>549337442>>5493377602 anons have already posted about using Bwon to hit legend this season and yet the deck is completely off the radar on the stat tracking sites? Seems weird.
>>549338101you can hit legend with anything because algo allow you (if you good goy and whale)Hitting legend with deck with 80% metacards most easiest task ever.... You just tempo leeches they allow you to play literally anything without worrying
>>549338973I hit legend and I haven't spent in years.
>>549339092thats already in post
>>549339308So forced 50 doesn't apply if you play meta decks?
>>549340692ask Cora on xitter and reddit
>>549340848Cora still has a job after all the layoffs?
>>549340848She told you to git gud
literally 6 weeks until the miniset bros hold on
>>549344482cant wait for more Neutralstone
>>549344482I'm patient.
>>549344482Will Shatter become a thing finally?
>>549352315probably. wouldn't make sense to release it after rotation with a new set.
hearthstone finals are next week, when the FUCK will they let us pick a champion
>>549248692hsreplay free stats cap at gold, which means its stats are completely irrelevant. nobody should care what drooling retards in bronze are doing, and any cheap aggro deck is going to massively overperform at the levels hsreplay draws its stats from
>>549262930mindbroken retarded controltoddlers think that playing cards before turn 5 is aggroits a classic board based midrange deck, the exact thing HS uncs have spent the last 2 years begging for
>>549314898It is a nice deck with varied outcomes that keeps it interesting.You either have the portals and kill your opponent, or you play the taunts and then double them and drag the game, your seeds can have lifesteal, also when you play the dude who transform your board to the minion it draws, you can get a bunch of 8/8s.I like it.
>>549300216>the meta uses zephrys but im using griftah because im a poorfagzeph costs 2k gold what are you talking about
>>5493077321 mana, look at 3 cards in your deck, draw the best one and never draw the 2 you don't want is and always has been insanely powerfulpeople have mentioned old vs new tracking, the reality is that new tracking is actually a worse version of the card for any hunter deck that doesn't intend on drawing its whole deck, and waveshaping is technically better than even old tracking since there are synergies with bottom of deck.
>>549302740>>549308108retards actively killing the gameturbulus was printed at 4 mana and was completely unplayablehagatha was printed at 5 mana and was completely unplayableflight is one of the only cards from lost city that's playabledelete midrange shaman like you want and you'll be crying and shitting yourself over dragon warrior within 2 days
>>549361975They're playable now, not because the 1 mana buff significantly changed things, but because every other better strategy has eaten multiple nerfs. The funniest thing to me though, as someone who played a lot of Hag Shaman on my climb to high legend, is people complaining making a single big Bellhop when there's no way to make a big one that actually feels good outside of Coin Flight into a Bellhop unless you have a Parrot Sanctuary down and even then it's not something you're aiming for with your Birdwatchings in anything but against the most aggro decks. Sanctuary is probably the most broken card in the deck, it just allows things to be accelerated so hard when combined with Hagatha making all your big spells also have a big body on them and also be discounted so you can either get them out early in control matchups or sneak them in alongside a cheeky bit of removal with Pop Up, and the fact that you can spend all 3 mana cheats in a single turn probably the most broken aspect of it. If you could only get a single discount a turn, the deck would be a lot less oppressive.
>>549363026the way to make midrange shaman not oppressive is to print not dogshit cardsthis is the exact pattern that emerges in every "low power" format, where one deck is marginally better than anything else but because everything is so weak and ineffective that marginal edge is enough to make the deck near unstoppablegive everyone actual cards to use and there would be way more variety because other decks could compete with whatever the best deck(s) can do
>>549364486I'm agreeing that nerfing the deck isn't a good idea because then it'll just be one of the current B level decks that people are already playing and getting sick of becoming the meta titan instead. I don't understand why Cora thought that printing 3 garbage expansions in a row was a good idea instead of just committing to a big nerf patch when rotation comes for the cards remaining in Standard.
balancing decks would make it more difficult for blizzard to manipulate the ladder.the house always wins.
>>549366254They only balance the game when they notice reduced profits.
>>549366087the funny thing is they did do a big nerf patch, and printed 3 garbage sets anywaythey're fully committing to the zeddy+kibler balance philosophy of nuke anything reddit loses to. I'm morbidly curious what next year will be like when only the unplayable trash is in standard and imbue/quests dominate the format. will they nerf the "broken" quests? will reddit and the retards itt start claiming shit like DH quest was an obvious balance outlier only being held back by "overpowered" shartcraft cards? will they finally axe the game after 3 years of nonsets being released?
>>549314898I am a netdecker and they always put broxigar in every dh deck. I got him in 1 game out of 10 and he couldnt even swing face. I even stopped using the axe properly, I just use it for the lifestealHonestly if it shuffled a portal and THEN drew, not before, it would fix the card
>>549314898you need to buy more signature cards. blizzard won't let you win until you give them free money.
>>549368032Now that I think about it, they probably only use him for the minus 2 cards and a good weapon
>>549369258It's another win condition if the game drags on.And it messes up with your opponent's resurrection effects because of the death rattle minions.
*blocks ur paht*
If anyone wants a free 6 win this brawl, combine this guy with rogue. Have few minions to draw him easily, get him out when you can and spam 0 cost spellsIf you get huffers keep bouncing them for the otk.
>>549370408ENTER
>>549370742i dont play ai cards
>>549370408This isn't even good when elemental can scale into 5 digits with rainfall.
>>549371215Things elementals need:-Money generation (probably pirates with golden brann)-Acid rain-The 5/5 whatever he is called -Some other way to spread stats-Apm soillsThings mechs need:-1 (uno) apex guardian-Reborn, macaw and titus (optional)
>>549371418Yes. But elemental is stronger.
>>549371636yes but have you considered that you need to roll + buy + sell in this dogshit client until your rope snaps meanwhile the mech player spends 10 gold and goes afk for 90 seconds to beat your board 90% of the timealso LMAOING @ ur life if the mech nigger hits the tier 7
>>549373616Well if the goal is to win sure. If the game gives me mechs, I'll play mechs.If the game gives me elementals, I'll play elementals.If given a choice between the 2, I'll pick the stronger comp if my goal is to gain MMR.
>>549361414i spent my gold on the emerald dream miniset in order to get fyrakkI have no goldi am a poorfag FAGGOT
>>549317916Have you tried simply ignoring the leeches? They aren't as big of a threat as you think
>>549383315The spirit that makes two 5/5 taaunts and gives them 10 max hp was a hundred times more annoying than even unnerfed leeches, never heard anyone ever complain about those
Mmmm nothing quite like deleting a location before the enemy even uses it onceThis guy thought he was safe to drop it on its own in preparation before he dumped Greybough. He was still able to get him out with a 1/1 copy from Elise's, but I also had Librarian ready to silence, he conceded right there. USE TECH CARDS, NO ONE *EVER* EXPECTS THEM
>>549386142I am a shaman chad, I dont need to tech against inferior decks
>be me>play hearthstone>draw bad cards early>enemy draws good cards early>i losethis is bullshit
>>549386142Tech cards lose you more games by being worthless bricks against decks they're not relevant against than they win the 1/10 you play against something that does AND provided you draw them. They're the biggest noob trap in the entire game.
>>549386516maybe you should host a botnet instead of complaining to deaf ears. play against yourself if other players are nagging vermin.
>>549388362>put steamcleaner into deck>never face a diaper quest warrior ever againworks in my game
>>549388483Steamcleaner is expecially bad because if they get time warp in their hand it doesn't even do the one specific job it's supposed to do.
>>549388616i would assume they would just rage concede but the game is so rigged that i havent faced that deck at all anymore since putting steamcleaner into the deck
Copied an imbue mage deck with some token paladin buffs from a couple threads ago and forgot i had to play itDid it today to 6-1Thank you anon
>>549388362At worst they're 1-mana draw one
>>549389469Oh and they combo well with my crappy imbue paladin deck because trading them can trigger a cascade of dragons
>oaken summon>eliseevery single game
>>549390058ah, witchwood. i remember that place well
Wow i just remembered they took the taunt off defense crystal. I guess my death rattle resurrect DH shart ship deck is kill completely. Sad!
>>549391190>SadGood.
>>549390058I just removed that card for frontiers
>>549391190Cancer dh uses this now
>>549391190it's funny that they decided to completely kill it and not even revert it back to 4 mana
>>549391190every single stall deck should have a 0% wr
i miss nev bros...
WHERE ARE MY FUCKING RIVENDARES IVE BEEN ROLLING FOR THE PAST 4 LOBBIES NO BARONS ANYWHERE
Toki mage players explaining how generating “4 mana deal 1 damage to a demon on a sunday” spells toally won them the game and not kiljaeden making 20/20 chargers
Speaking of Kil'Jadenhttps://youtu.be/KnXBf83dCg8?t=1644 (27:25)What a weird way for that to work
>>549314898I have like 200 games with cliffdive DH and the only time I have seen Broxigar was some fucked up priest deck somehow managed to get my 4th portal and lethaled me with my own Broxigar KEK
>>549388396nta but claiming no one's listening while directly responding to it is hilariously retardedyou also love spamming that "go make your own botnet" line, i've seen you post it several times, which is even more autistic than the first point. what the hell is wrong with you?
>>549403426I fought this deck and lost.
just fucking rig the game without draining max rope every single turngod it's so fucking annoying. just let me play you fucking faggots. give me rigged bots, just let me cast my fucking cards
>against aggro paladin>has 12 damage on board after turn 2>can't play shit because I didn't pay for nice drawsyou enjoy this game? really?
>>549407259Next game>slowly build up board>druid gains mana for 2 rounds, does nothing and OTKs me with some C'thun shit on turn 6You really fucking enjoy this?
>>549407562sounds like you don't maybe you should stop
dead game, blizzniggers killed the bots again.
>>549407958I could enjoy it but what the fuck is this? My third game was against dragon warrior that had fucking 8 attack minions on board turn 3 LOL what did they do to HS
>>549398989Tbh this bgs format has been complete dogshit. I want anomalies back (buddies can go die in a hole). This Timewarp thing they’ve been doing has been an utter trash heap of imbalance. Feels like the Timewarps are disproportionately better for players that are already performing well in the rankings, and there’s only like, 2-3 decent cards in any given Timewarp pool. That being the case, there’s only ever 1 decent comp in any given match and with everyone clamoring over each other like retards to get to that singular winning comp, it becomes a fuckfest of luck-sacking. At least with the previous season, you could tank a few round losses, and come back with a win below 10 hp. Now if you’re below 30 hp by turn 9 it’s pretty much gg.
>>549408215You'd think they'd WANT bots, since the easy wins they offer keep people playing
>>549408882they prevent em from gambling on packs. so no, they're anti easy wins
>>549407259>>549407562>>549408378i think they definitely turned some knob today (or recently)i haven't played in a few days and when i logged on today i had 4 absurd autolosses in a row, mostly against hyper aggro god draws, but the last one was weird as fuck similar to what you said about the weird cthun deck. it was some unplayable hybrid deck that no one on earth has ever played before, started out as hyper aggro, ended up being midrange-diaper, it contained one of every silver bullet card and it had them perfectly (renovator vs my elise, rustrot vs my khadgar, librarian vs whenever i had something good to silence)that deck literally made no sense, it was just whatever the algorithm needed on curve every turn, very blatantly riggedbut yeah, something about my games today felt abnormally rigged. so i was not surprised at all to see these posts when i checked this thread
>>549409329I didn't even go into game 4 and 5 which were just as absurd, had my first win right now against some shitty libram paladin deck that nobody ever plays, he also roped every turn, what's going on kek
>>549373758The problem is, Mechs can scale to 4 digits by turn 12 and give zero shits about the Timewarps you pulled. Elementals are heavily reliant on your Timewarp pulls, and even at best, the scaling is super slow. There’s so many dogshit Timewarp cards, and it seems the game can’t figure out that if your board is 100% mechs, that you’re in zero demand for a fucking Timewarped Murloc
>>549409329there are posts like this literally every day thoughyou fuckers can't stop blabbering about algo, rigging and how it's unfair you lost gamesmaybe you should touch grass whenever you lose too many games I dunno
lmao
>>549409329Jizzard barely has enough staff to playtest half of the unbalanced shit they release, what makes you retards think they have the time to micromanage rigging matches against people’s decks on a matchup-to-matchup basis?
>>549410564the rigging algorithm existed before nublizz.
>>549410845Post source code for the algo or it didn’t happen
>>549410845>inb4If(Opponent.PlaysCard == True)ThenHSBot.Win = True
>>549411784man i miss it when chink bots worked like that in 2024.
Feels good being on the winning side of the algorithmAlways getting the perfect topdeck to punish those who didn't buy the battlepass
>>549410230>no minions dh counters deathrattle dh
>>549426270should've ran objection or mutanus
Protoss Mage killing me from 30 hp an 83 armor. Holy fucking cancer. Not gonna touch ranked until this shit is gone.
balance patch this week will save us
>>549409827>noooo you can't have negative opinions about a hobby! if you do you need to go outside more! otherwise you might h-h-hurt my feelings!!
>beat diaper quest warrior with greybough deck>they cant get through my wall of trees and with bonus effects>its very annoying for him >even burns time warp trying to get though>lol. lmao.>adds me after game>asks for the deck>tell him no and that I dont want someone like him playing it and block him eat shit diaper warrior
>>549429446bro your dirt rat???
witcher 3 loads faster on my laptop than hs battlenet +client....
I can't understand a fucking word this card says.
>>549432395"this could belong to a brand new species""a new finding"forgot the rest.
>>549431046Incredibly based, always be mean to controddlers.
>>549432524why does every player who started playing after shitomance and united in blue nigger city hate control?
>buy every diamond portrait and signature card>face nothing but decks mine counter all the way to legendalgochads, where we at?
>>549432845still working on the botnet mainframe. still gotta figure out how to automate the account creation.
I think platinum cards are dumb
Almost kill me kek
>lose last game>next game free win>opponent added to your friendsYep thats many damage combo with elemental in standart not brawl
>>549439719dont worry next game im raped again by highroll netdeck pissmage
>>549439890yep has 2 sissys and 2 spells (discovered btw) for perfect 6 damage lethal next turn NOT RIGGED AT ALLim tired bros....
>>549432524I LOVE GATEKEEPING!!!!!! (no sarcasm)
>next gameHahahah so funny murloc paladin really ? he literally has no chance to win Tnx ALGO !
>>549429446let me guess, you sat around for 15 turns stalling rather than pressuring them and are now irate that they killed you
>next gameyep he has second sissyHOLY Shit literally every second game is scripted sissy mage My hs is broken bros.....
>>549443332gotta maintain that 50/50 win rate bro
>>549443627that literally 50% not 47 not 55.... crazy shit
>>549432845based whale whitemane enjoyer
>>549432845I WANNA HAVE SEX WITH WHITEMANE AND CUM IN HE RPUSSY
>change deck to armor lock>zero magestournament mode only save us not rigtandart
new event DOKO
Back to playing dk with no new cards
>>549458212from 150 new cards only 5 played in meta.....
>>549458719and 3 of them are fabled and must be played together. lol
Ive been cranking out the quests that award battlepass XP lately and some of these are fucking stupid. its cool how some are just "play this card X times but slgihtly different" or "deal X total damage with this card" but then some are like "get the perfect string of cards and draws and discovers to make this card hit the number it has to have" and dont even get me started on toki i hate it here
>OUT OF MY WOODS OUT OF MY WOODS >OUT OF MY WOODS OUT OF MY WOODS >OUT OF MY WOODS OUT OF MY WOODS >OUT OF MY WOODS OUT OF MY WOODS
reddit is gonna complain about greybough so mush when he becomes popular
STORIES
>>549462094so did you win?
>>549460193OUT OF MY JUNGLE
>play bgs>it forces some "chronum" gimmick on me>close the game immediatelywhat the fuck was that? fuck off
>>549432680I started in TGT and I hated cuntrol since day 1
>5 russians in row>all play scamwell fitting...
>>549429446>30hp 83 armor
>>549441242>wax ragersDamn, duels are back
NO WAY FAG(literally)still wins because its my win game
Does this nigga work with the 1/2 amalgam? It shuffles a copy of itself so technically it didnt start in your deck, right?
>>549477154yes also works with rogue espionage via tourist You draw 1 mana minion/spell
>>549475197i was too dumb to calculate elemental damage so i went to 2 turn lethal
>>549430721it's not opinions, it's blogposts about how you lost a game with a sprinkle of schizo delusions about how blizzard made you lose somehow, and everyday it's the same, you don't even bother posting a screenshot most of the time so we can't even marvel at the incredible rng you speak of or make fun of you for playing a shit deck with 300 tech cards
i just played cleaner for 1 mana after diaper vomit his reward and then kill him with zarimi(1 mana) and murozond(1 mana) and still 12 mana left lmao
>decided to play some arena>first opponent constucted piss rogue with no 2 limitYep mode also dead....
I just see free tickets as an extra pack and some dust, click 30 random cards and then concede twice, way quicker less frustration
>>549483920should've embraced the botnet meta.
>>549483920There are draft helpers for arena in every deck tracker.You can use it to increase your chances of winning.
Got otk’d by a self damage dh running aranna, umbra and octosari. It looked really funWhat is this archetype called? I couldnt find it on hsguru
>>549483920Arena and shit like the dual class brawl are the most fun modes of hearthstone
>>549486531Octosari DH but no one plays that in standard. Fatigue DH in wild can do a similar thing without octosari but it's mostly a tempo deck
>>549486769LOL good one
>>549486827ThanksYeah it was in bronze 5 lol
the meta sucks right nowit was pretty good a month ago
>>549491869wait how shit its gonna be after the next zeddy nerf patch and then after rotation OH BOYgoing first will be a 90% wr
>>549491869>it was pretty good a month agoA month ago we were in control hell.
>>549486531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjbKoHv69wgpure meme deck but it just works
>elise turn>elise location turn>zilliax turndid hearthstone ever just ban cards? so boring to see the same shit happen in every game
>>549496620overtly strong neutrals that go in every deck are a mistake. every class plays the same
>>549496620Itonically because of Elise we returned to the classic 2015 state of hearthstone where every deck just picks the best card for each mana slot (and every deck is the same)Everyone ran Fyrakk not because he fit in their deck, but because it was the best 9 drop for Elise
he bought?
>>549496620at least zilliax is rotating soonwe still have another year and a few months of elise
>scripted win>scripted lost>scripted win>scripted win>scripted lost>scripted lostheres scripted complain>inb4 scripted schizo commentscripted fuck youbtw i just got legend rank 500+ with avinia druid which is funny because i lost half the games i played the last game i won bc warrior concede even though i doubted i was gonna win i played jailer destoy my deck then played raza put avinia and other bunch of cards in my deck warrior played hamm it ate aviniaalso they should revert jailer effect it so gay right now
>>549498857wait until you realize you're part of a script too
>>549498678Rotations do at least naturally harm the versatility of 'If your deck is built with this specific condition' cards, since the range of good shit to use them with gets slashed
>>549499010at the same time, the good cards become even better in a smaller weaker pool
>>549497096Way ahead of you.
>>549499214bogged
>>549499214based
why am i still queuing into protoss priest just days away from hearthstone winning GOTY at the game awards
>win gameRIGGED>lose gameALGO'ED>/hsg/ tells me I'm a schizoSCRIPTED>mom tells me to find a jobBOTTED>shit own pantsPOOPED
I stopped winning with Dragon Warrior entirely. Somehow stuck at Diamond 10 with a five game lose streak.What the fuck happened?
>>549506954you stopped going first and drawing your curve
>>549506954which version of dragon are you using?
>>549508361Dunno. Multiple week old list from hsguru
>>549508361>>549508664Here's the decklistAAECAQcGzp4GzOEGhJ0Hm6UHnaUHnqUHDJGoBuqoBuPmBqr8Bqv8BsSBB/eDB+iHB9KXB56ZB7etB4+xBwAA
>>549508848
>>549508848I was using this variant a few days agoThere is a better deck that doesn't rely on lo'gosh combo and it has more dragonsIt still keeps zephrysIt does feel better than using lo'gosh in a lot of matchups but if you draw really shit against aggro decks like shredlock it is a bit painfulAAECAQcIx6QGzOEGoYEHrIgHwY8HgpgHhJ0H8a8HC+qoBuPmBqr8Bqv8BveDB+iHB9KXB56ZB7etB5iwB4+xBwABA/WzBsekBvezBsekBu7eBsekBgAA
>>549509485Gonna try it after this match. Logosh never felt good to play anyways. Really awkward.
>>549509717Lo'gosh only felt good when you had all 3 of the fabled cards in hand sadlyI hope there's a deck that could make him work, maybe use a tutor to get all the big costs together
>starcraft is the worst thing that has ever happened to hearthstoneironic
>>549496620they used to Hall of Fame cards, that is retire them early from standard, I don't know why they stopped
>>549509485>>549510701Made it to Diamond 8. Seems to work so far.
>>549498857get a life bro
>>549516171very based anon!i've seen it destroy before, it truly is a dragon warrior unlike the lo'gosh variant
>>549496673when it happened to shadowverse 1 and eveything become neutralcraft it killed the mgame. hopefully the same thing happens to hearthstone
only monk class can save us
how many decks do you have?
>>549524158I have 4 standard decks and 2 wild decksI'd like to have more variety in wild but most of the ones i make are homebrew and shit beyond plat 10
>>549520792no.
>>54952415824 decks. most are homebrew i tried to make work and then i cant abort my hideous freak baby that doesn't work.
>>549516171>>549516763Diamond 7!
>>549520792>no class identity>no balance whatsoever>every expansion makes shit worseBut another class will surely make things better instead of worse, yeah. Sure.I say REMOVE classes.
>>549520792WoW started to suck once they added DKnew classes are gay
>>549526028Diamond 6!
They're back!
>>549528581>>549508848I did it! That last stretch was really smooth.Now to the grind to legend. But not today.Thanks for the deck, Anon!.
>>549506954You started playing against people who aren't bad/playing greed piles that just die to someone swinging face turn after turn. You can probably still climb to legend since the expected win rate is still positive, but linear tempo decks like that always fall off at the higher levels of play when the other guy knows what's in your deck and plays around breakpoints.
counter queue algo dialed up to 110 again, literally unplayable game
>>549495891people like Clark teaching bronze-babies how to play decks has ruined this game
BrosWe're going through a skin tsunami right nowI heard of a coming event that might give us gold, is there any truth to that?
>>549479629>calling other people a schizo>literally making shit up about running bad decks with tech cards and whatever other babblehm. interesting
Warlock/Warrior Egglock and some sort of Hunter/Rogue with Sylvannas are the two best brawl decks but zoo is so universally good no one bothers playing the hard decks to play lmaomage/rogue Protoss is nutty too
>>549505458missed CEMENTED chud....
>>549529992kill all ecelebs
>>549529269No problem anonEnjoy!
>>549525547i made this post
Which is the strongest aggro deck in wild? Pirate rogue or dh?
Call me a bitch for wanting to play priest but what is the problem the devs have with this class? They downright admitted they make their cards shittier on purpose cause people hate playing against priest, but then they take the shit people hate about priest and give it to other classes. Warrior and DK has shit tons of removal and survivability through armor and leeches. Rogue has much better thieving while also having discounts while priest has to pay extra mana with no discounts. Paladin has better handbuffs and healing. Mage is a better burn class even when their decks are tier 3 at best while also having sleet skater.Meanwhile Priest has Draenei, Handbuff, Topdeck, Locations, Aviana, and Overheal as failed archetypes they refuse to revisit. Then to top it off they print cards like Zarimi, Amanthul, and to a lesser extent Eternus which I cant imagine anyone having fun playing against. I dont even want to play a hard control deck I just want my old overheal deck they butchered for no fucking reason back. But dont worry I'm sure the mini set where they force priest to share cards with Druid for the Xth time surely won't cause all their cards to get nerfed into uselessness like the other times.
>>549537460discolock
>>549537924didnt read this post. you are a bitch.
Post it.Also recommend some DK and DH decks for my golden heroes.
People who play blob DH deserve cancer of the ass
>>549539203>Krieger>Hexmeister>ToddleritterLmao>Paladin>Priester>Magier>DruideLame
>>549525041>>549526302>>549526823t. will get raped by monks on ladder 24/7
>>549526823yeah paladin+dk was ass from WOTLK start but they nerfed it later i never have problem with dk in later expansions I hate modern wow but they at least fix problems
The people who can get their heads around Monk next year will suffer the most the PANDA TIME!!!
>>549551363panda shamans ??? LOREBOYS get him !
>>549537924did read this post. you're correct blizzard is dumb and can't handle 11 classes (they couldn't even handle 9 but now it's worse)
>>549551923that's a monk transmog retard.
is there really no way to have your coin and cardback be random without selecting favorite on every coin and cardback?
>>549553569yeah and RACE transmog right ?
>>549553691it looks like a raid transmog. not a heritage.
>>549553746read again my post its nothing about monks just panda
>>549553691and fyi: pandaren can be shamans.
>>549553917yes. and i said it looks like class armor rather than race armor.
>>549553929yeah>nice neutral cute pandas>suddenly BLOODLUST WINDFURY CHAINLIGHTNINING to your facenot very friendly bro...
>>549554663eh, they could be more into heroism and windfury.
>the only decks that play the board are supreme cancerimpressive work blizz
Fuck it, I'll just play shaman, this meta sucks anyway
>>549553619There is
>>549556354Hag shaman?
>>549555562greybough plays the board
>>549557453minions that summon are cancer.
Just 14 left to.Then I can stop playing this trash class.
>>549556354Holy fucking shit, I can't with this game, instantly face only hunters
>>549557082which is?
What the fuck am I supposed to play in order not to get countered 100% of the time?
>>549558384wild
>>549558384Create a deck AND the counter to that deck.Then search for a game with your first deck and IMMEDIATELY cancel. Then search for another match with your second deck.Works 50% of the time.
>>549558536bad idea. more counters. and counter decks can be brute forced.
>15hp>ready to use 40 hp boost>dh somehow kill me with only dormant mag on board>win next game anyway because algoHoly shit literally every card exept blobs going to my face Nice design Cora
>switched to egg>face the only quest mage in the gameBlizzard is a dirty nigger jew company
nice stacking>win anyway because game is scripted (2 repackage from HP lol)
>>549560070fuck stack overflow....
>>549560574and next gamewhat a point of my mind control dragon if game is fucking scripted ? and this happens on my lose game magically
>>549559257>>549558891are you too retarded to host your own playerbase or just attention whoring?
>>549560871>are you too retarded to host your own playerbasewhat
>>549560810wanna see *magic* ?next game (win ofc because magical DC)
>there is no algorithm
>>549561005flood the game with bots that obey you to countetrig the queue. it's the botnet meta man.
>>549561094idk about algo but almost every mage runs reno jackson(and mini jackson)
>>549561697only two mages I faced today was when I played 2 games of egg warlock, not allowed to play a deck than can be hard countered because the algo forces a 50% winrate so climbing is unbarably slow and is entirely decided by opponents throwing or dumb luck
>>549562835I can't play egglock because I refuse to craft legendaries solely for wild and I miss exactly 1 legendary :(
judge me
>>549563828Kinda gay tb.h with all these priest games!But thanks for posting.
Your bets
>>549564334colossus archon
>>549563828death by vulpera cannonball.
>>549564374close archon destroy and rush nigga
>>549557730trvth nvke
Would the matchmaking algorithm be looked on more positively if HS had more players? Also, do you ever suspect that some of your opponents are bots?
>>549565207no. and i face so many bots on purpose i know how to spot one. selected cards before the mulligan starts, trying to attack a minion behind a taunt summoned by a deathrattle, not being able to play cards due to crap like that dh legendary or the 5/4 beast from the naga xpac, always trading when their minions have less attack than yours, not understanding damage reduction effects or poison(moonfang/amitus/animated armor), trying to attack face with rush minions multiple times, mirroring emotes.
>shart nigger>elem nigger>fill deck with aoe spells>every game is diapersthats big problem of hs.... scripted opponents
>>549529128>not available for goldwhat's the fucking point? if I wanted to pay cash for cosmetics I would have boughted them the first time around
>rat one sissy>he has full combo on t8IF YOULOSEYOUALWAYSLOSE
>change deck to armor lock>hunter rolls 7 damage to face beast>ignore taunts and throw spells to face>has literally no cards and topdeck big damage spellsFuck yeah YOU CANT ESCAPE ALGO
>500 posts>thought we made it to bump limit>bump limit is actually 700 postsOh well
>>549568914+1 to image contribution>my win game
>>549569208Why did you crop out your rank?
>>549569572there is craut anon who triggered by names
>>549568765the games are not rigged, it's the matchmaking that is rigged
>>549569741He's not here
>>549571069oh cmon....
>>549571031also true>>549569208get fucked by nature shaman on t6 next game
>when colifero hits the 8/8 demon with rush on a full boardIM GONNA FUCKING NUT
>>549572092>not gonna happens...oh wait....>>549560810
>>549571031i've seen too many perfect topdecks to believe this. too many perfect mulligans.
>>549583721>if my opponent ever draws the good cards in his deck then the game is riggedquite the mindset you have there ranjeet.
>>549537460I would personally say Pirate DH/Garona Rogue (harder to play) are the same and Discolock is a close secondrealistically, Miracle Priest, Combo Warrior and Druid are the best decks in the game but they are so difficult to pilot that no one bothers.
killing protoss niggers with your bare hands has never felt so good
>>549584164i didn't say it was only my opponents. i have also benefitted from perfect topdecks. impossibly perfect.
>>549584380>its impossible to hit the 2/15 to draw situationally very good card that I put in my deck
>>549586275drawing the right card is one thing, but that card's 'random' effect somehow managing to do precisely lethal damage is impossible.
>>549584290based
Just got cheesed by a druid with cthunWhat a fucking gay ass bug
Please tell me elise gets nuked soon
>>549595184Don't care, more dust for me.
>>549595184Elise gets nuked when rotation happens due to deckbuilding restrictions.
discover cora is tier 0 isnt it thats shit just unbeatable
>>549596135That‘s not a given because elise is so broken you’d probably play 3 shit cards just to fit it in, especially after rotation when the power level goes down a lot
>>549596486They can't even fix the cthun bug.
>>549596135>due to deckbuilding restrictionsyou're going to have to find a singular 7 or 8 cost card to play instead of ceaseless
>>549596135Naralex/Fyrakk stay at 7/10 mana spotShaladrassil stays at 89 opens up (Ysera isn't good for every deck) but there's gonna be a 0 mana neutral
>>549599729And a 9-mana cos bye bye Zilliax
>>549599950Fyrakk and shaladrassil are dead cards in a lot of the decks currently running Elise.
>>549600168they're not dead cards, just mogged by Zilliax and some other card that may or may not be rotating
>>549599957you're still playing ysera
>>549595184Elise is fineDiscovers from her or copy1 is not fine because current pool of cards Basically people run her for copy or discover 3 spells (sometimes armor or raptors but thats very situational)
>>549601745Elise is by far the best card in the game right now
>>549601869After Wisp of courseim joking after Fyrfag Crystal nerf and Ancient of fagore it is
>>549601985nah, best card rn is sandmaw
>>549601985I‘m just tired of these neutrals that are auto include in every non aggro deck
>>549601869Yup, she's used in all the good decks.Can't be a coincidence.
>>549602260love getting this with +4/5 or +2/2 elusive and slamming it down turn 3 and winning the game
>>549602260i lost today because nigger spell hunter roll this from spell and shit hit my 1/4 face hp
It's funny that ostensibly Druid should be the big taunts class but it's actually DK because if DK doesn't have the best version fo EVERY SINGLE ARCHETYPE IN THE GAME then the game would explode and Cora would get big sad :(
>>549603813this card has been in standard for over a year and has seen play in 1 mediocre deck
>>549603813most people dont run this Standard leech dk is better
>>549603978Because sometimes you will draw both and that loses you the game (we call this CoraBalanceTM) and also because it's competing with perhaps the highest quality set of cards in the game. Wakener would see use on plenty of other classes but DK is simply too broken to even bother with something that slow.
Octosari dh has to be one of the worst deck. I tried it after someone posted a youtube vid itt, but is so annoying. Not only you have to survive until like turn 12, you have to hope for the right minions getting discounts, you need to get the right elise location and safe one of your aoe for the combo turn. Very annoying to pull offI remember running into a variation that did not run octosari, but every neutral deathrattle draw a card and only used umbra. I’ll try recreating that
>reinstall after 4 years>get free hunter deck>have fun for a week playing ladder, arena and other modes>queue ranked>control warrior>control mage>control warrior>control druid>control warriortime for another 4 year break
>>549603978? Almost every control dk runs it
>>549607051Bwon DK is midrange. Don't let people gaslight you
>>549607051no they don't
>>549603813Surely warrior should be the king of taunts if anyone is
>>549606573>I remember running into a variation that did not run octosari, but every neutral deathrattle draw a card and only used umbraThat list is better but these kinds of decks only beat slow decks and there‘s better alternatives that won‘t insta lose to aggro/tempo if that‘s your goal
>>549562835Just play chvdvvarrior, albeit that requires both skill and incredible antisemitism which from your low T estrogenated posts, you lack.
>>549606828Play starship rogue. Pretty fun and kills control decks
>>549607557half the deck are legendaries can't afford that much dust but thanks for the suggestion
>>549607557archon otks more fun Drop deios archon and fill board with NOTrags 16x6 shotgun into diaper face or velen rock otk
>>549606828they hadn't perfected the algo 4 years ago.
winterveil today bros hold the FUCK on paladin bros
>try to watch trolden video>thijs clip>forced to turn off videohow can a person look so disgusting
>>549613937low estrogen from being pounded too much in the thijussy as a teen.
>>549615231Dude is loaded and still won't invest in a proper diet and a gym membership.Kind of like blizzard who earned billions from hearthstone and invested nothing in it.
>>549615332they spend alot of money to feed cora
Remember when rogue monkeys were crying about how their class would be dead without scoundrel?
>>549617568Yeah now they rely entirely on an exploit
>>549617568I have no idea what rogue deck you could even be having a melty about in this meta
>play last minute dual class tavern brawl>if I queue into egg Warlock/warrior get stomped>If I don't I stomp my opponent>not a single game is closenice format shitzzard, I'll take the 6-2 though.
>>549619798pretty good runout from the reward packs too
>>549539203i hate this game
pally handbuff bros we're hours away
>>549625972From what tho
You may not like it, but this is what peak aggro looks like. >>549618308Rogue is good it's just difficult to pilot and everyone under high legend rank throws constantly, unlike Mage which is just mid whether you play well or not >>549619798I really enjoyed this brawl honestly. What were you playing? Some decks were more polarizing than others. Egglock and Dragon Warrior/Warlock were clearly the strongest decks imo, but I don't think the non egglock control lists were given enough time to develop and they were good. Demon Hunter/Paladin token aggro was fun to play, I got 6 wins with it. Sylvannas Hunter/Rogue would have been the best deck if Egglock didn't exist to hard counter it, so I think the more traditional Discover Hunter with the good Rogue cards was better but no one wanted to play that. Elemental Mage/Shaman was decent. Protoss Mage was good. god I farmed so many packs good brawl
Got Legend with Cliff DH, this deck is so fun to play
>>549632745grats, man
>>549630023What rogue deck?Is this a wild thing or the vuppera was in standard too?
>casually playin bg while at work>suddenly the game skips the recruit phase three turns in a row and just jumps into the combat phasei thought they turned off anomalies
>>549632745checked these digits
>>549632745MODSMODSMODS
>>549632745very based anongrats on legend!
>>549632745Extremely based
watches gamervg>he keeps screaming "he top decks this and that why doesn't i draw damage and clear everything and kill him already on turn 8 im so unlucky he's so lucky">he ends up winning anyway>he keeps doing this every gameswho da fuck enjoy watching this insufferable competitive tard in children card game
>>549641293complain into win is the streamer meta
What's your brawl deck?
>>549641682think u play some kind of warlock that kills its minions in that one
>>549641682pirate druid>>549642325it's a different one, you want to kill your opponents presents to get shit
Your second place, Sir.
>>549620616>i hate this gameFunny thing is, I believe you.
>>549643075what is this
>>549643535pay 2 win auto battler.
turn 1 evolve: the brawl
>>549643075Know your place, beasts
>>549641682>What's your brawl deck?decklist?
what the fuck is this fomo shit legendary they just released?
>>549641682All my homebrews got rekt by standard metadecks and wild otks, then the algo took pity on me and gave me a bot who only used classic cards
>>549645282unplayable garbage
>>549646486call me crazy but she'd rock in a spaceship pally or token infuse deck in wild
>>549646818evolve tokens in wildy or 2020 screenshot?
>>549646964brawl starts with 8 minions on board
>>549646802>spaceship pallynever even heard of it>token wild druidway too slow
>>549641293being a hs "pro" is like being a pro darts player or some shit like thatbest not to take these losers seriously
Have they fixed Final Frontier?
>>549647723nope. apparently all of the discover from the past cards are broken
>>549647054token wild paladin you doofus, it's a paladim legendary
>>549647832haven't heard of that one either, all i ever see is terrible reno pile paladin or libram
>>549648836i hate post rise of shadows skibidi kids in my card game
>>549647797I wanted to see I didn't see Cthun even once, but I got it the next gameClassic blizzard
>>549648963rise of shadows was six (6) years ago. not even odd pally is a thing in wild anymore.
>5 mana do nothing
THRALLVERSUSTHRALL
this undead insta stabilizes your board and gets really disgusting with demons
Bros i thought we were meant to get nerfs today?
>>549653660We got nerfsFor the only mode that matters
>>549653936is it battlegrounds? good joke man.
Mmmh ah yesSix Elises
>>549657329The fact that elise is so broken that a deck like this runs it and there‘s people that still think elise doesn‘t need a nerf is funny to me
SSBBW XXL Reno Diaper Control Warrior works great in brawl
Track status?
>>549657481list me bro, i might do that to get through the 500 cards in traditional modes bullshit
>>549645574There are legit bots in brawls?
>>54965985991 but i paid for the pass
>>549660038paypig*oink* *oink*
>>549659878you don't have the cards for it ;) just play standard ranked
>remember watching some youtube video where they copied Ancient of yore>it went dormant>try it with magtheridon>it doesn't >loses me the matchfuck
>brawl>gieb decklist>can't win waaaahI literally clicked priest (because I had a daily quest for it), clicked autocomplete and won.Git fucking gud
>>549660282guarantee i do im not really missing any cards; ive got everything for wild reno warrior already idk what list youre running though.
>>549660573>COPY of a minion>the minion that is in a non dormant state is not dormant when copied your thinking of eternal layover that summons a new one
>>549660649my list isn't good just make something that survives the early turns
What's with all these back to back events?Player numbers dropping that hard?
>>549661580unironically, yes
>>549661580>>549661660AND THAT'S A GOOD THING
>>549661660What would be an ironic yes?
>>549660954Oh yeah, it was eternal layover
Why do high MMR people hate George so much?Every time I have his hero power I end up highrolling. Protecting your tidus or avenge cards or guaranteeing windfuries hit twice feels so powerful, yet the pros always say he sucks
>>549630023>I really enjoyed this brawl honestly. What were you playing?mage quest rogue, trying to shadowstep scrappy scavenger continuously to turbo through quest. I didn't copy anyone's else list, just built it with scavenger as my only minion so I could get it with the 1 mana draw
>>549666268good early late bad. good to as you said set yourself up for at least 4th, limiting to get to 1st since you've probably already sheilded all your important pieces and now it's a dead power compared to other hero powers that are still impactful late game. t. 2k mmr
just wrecked some streamer, wallow warlock is so damn fun manhttps://streamable.com/03qwqt
>>549666268Because you lose out on early scaling/eco and giga highroll like gally can get. But yeah if you can get to a decent board, divine shields are never bad.>>549668020Literally opposite of what you said
>>549668465That makes sense. Everyone loves their economy
fuck the nigger who invented ashalon and all the faggots who play it in arena
thought this card was supposed to be garbage
>exarch naielle to 4 mana>ranger sylvanas to deal 1 damage>shield battery to gain 4 armor>hagatha to 5 mana>unleash the crocolisks to 2 mana>hostile invader to 6 mana>elise to 5 mana>blob of tar to 5 manaGame is fixed.
>>549672353>>hagatha to 5 manaHagatha is not broken by itself, it's broken in the package. Without bellhops at 3 the deck falls apart.
Not engaging with your bait again, retard. First it was muradin that made the deck op and now it‘s bellhop apparently
>>549672551What I'm saying is nerf bellhops, not shaman. Shaman is weak without that deck, and there is only that deck (asteroid might also be decent if piloted by a skilled player)
do you guys think this will be enough
>>549673014>2x5/4 on turn 3 are not the problem
>>549673436as long as you copy it again to make sure
>>549673436I was playing control mage against that deck and was playing around that exact card for like 5 turns straight, keeping my own board clear and then khadgar the cunt casted mirror image
>>549673657Do you think nerfing hagatha or bellhop/draw is a bigger hit to the deck?
>>549673657Yea? No one wants to hit Bellhops with their Birdwatching unless you're playing against something like aggro Paladin. What actually needs to be gutted to make the deck more in line with the rest of the meta is Parrot Sanctuary since the acceleration and mana-banking it does is what allows Shaman to not get punished heavily for playing a bunch of turns of X mana, do nothing before they actually get their payoffs.
>>549674479Shamigger here, pic rel is the problem cardIf it was +1/+1 bellhop and murloc both immediately immediately become weaker
>>549671557Yrel sexo
easy leggo
>>549674479I think that the deck is fragile and will likely die after whatever nerfs they setlte on, I'm sure they won't just nerf one card. Hagatha at 5 would just straight up delete the card (and class). They already did this with several shaman cards in the past, hence the 43% winrate prior to warlock nerfs. Stats nerfs to a 4 mana 4/3 wouldn't make sense either. If they were to nerf birdwatching it'd either have to be something like 1/1 buffs, or make it 3 mana but incrase the buff significantly. Firehawk might be nerfed to + 1/2 or 2/1. Bellhops could be 4 mana 3/4's or something, I donnu.>>549674806Oh so you're just baiting
>>549671557HS pros hate all handbuff cards because 10 years ago handbuff was hyped and it sucked compared to jade golems, and they all lookes like idiots, so now every time a handbuff card comes around everyone pretends it’s gonna be shit, so they can have hs pro cloutFor instance Hireek the bat is still mocked to this day even though it was probably the best loa, simply because he was based on handbuffs and everyone refused to acknowledge the handbuff cards warlock gotThe paladin paintbrush was also called shit and it terrorized the ladder for months
>>549676109No, I've actually played the deck, unlike you apparently. If you meant 5/5 Bellhops, as in coming off of Flight, then you'd maybe have a point but even then you're not curving into a strong play that feels good going 3 into 3 unless you have the coin. If you have both Birdwatching and Flight, you are normally better served by thinning your deck with Flight first and then going looking for Hagatha and Elise with Birdwatching, which curves out very nicely as a 2+2 with a Sanctuary down. Bellhops are a dogshit hit off of Birdwatching and you will lose games consistently from a lack of value and tempo if you think that a pair of 5/4s early will get you there against any modern HS deck unless you're playing against meme decks that would be losing to fucking Murloc Pally, especially since you aren't guaranteed to have a 5 cost spell in hand since you will toss them on the mulligan outside of already having Hagatha and keeping Frosty so you are guaranteed something better in a slow matchup.
>>549675051this should either be 4 mana or +1/+1, wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the nerfs
>>549676109>two 5/5s on turn 4 is the broken play and not the 4 drop that guarantees a great play for the next 2 turnsBet you think elise is balanced too. Shitters don‘t understand the importance of tempo
It's funny how much this card will improve once Elise gets nerfed, I'm so tired of pulling her jesus
>>549681803So how would you nerf hagatha without deleting yet another shaman legendary? How do you nerf this deck without making shaman sub 40% winrate?
azshara druid is such a blast to playi wish it was a tiny bit better, it really is missing some ways to deal with the board but i guess that's just druid. it also instaloses to herenn lmao
>>549681803Also, your idea of nerfing sanctuary, how? Two mana for two mana's worth of cheating? 3 mana for 3 mana's worth of cheating? Very questionable nerf target imo. I understand your point about it but I don't think it can be done in a way that makes sense for the card. Also, it's the only source of mana cheat shaman has unlike so many other classes.
>>549685041no longer reopens on playing >b-but all perils locations do thati don't care
>>549685286Yeah well, that's not gonna happen
>>549685382upping it to 3 mana would be fine. most likely nerf targets are hagatha to 5 mana and flight to 4 mana
(W)allow warlock
>mfw the priest silences his taunt minions to make sure I don't get a present
>world finals next week>still no pick your champion for welfare packssisters...
>>549666268people remember divine shield poison murlocs
>>549672353how does this stop me from dying to protoss mage
>>549674245lmaooooooo
>>549691884the 2 times I tried out wallow warlock this patch I queued straight into greyborough druids
Does cycle rogue really need to exist in this game
>>549691884>>549708379i played wallow the past couple seasons, with about a 50-60% win ratesame deck this season, i'm at a 14% win rate with the deckcan't deal with aggro shamans/elemental mages/dragons/whatever, and armor-stacking colossus mages kind of counter it too
>>549710881>can't deal with aggro shamans/elemental mages/dragons/whateverI put glacial shards in the deck, helps a ton to stall. I also have sketch artist to clear shaman boards and what not on turn 5-6 to prevent wish buff, helps against encounters too. >armor-stacking colossus mages kind of counter it tooThat's not true. Wallow is basically an OTK deck, you just need to know what gifts to look for and you can kill them on turn 7-9 before they get their combo out. Elise location helps too, look for copy and attack And sleet skeeters you play around by not playing giant minions.
>>549711950Sketch artist draws table flip. It's a wonky combo but works because most cards in the deck fills your hands with junk you won't be playing anyway. The whole idea is to create an OTK so you'll be picking minons that suck purely for the dark gift. Against aggro (like dragon warrior) you should play purely for board and defense, stall until you zilliax or whatnot and then they usually concede. Lots of dark gift scams will keep you alive against those decks.
>furious fowl now 5 mana and summons 2/2s >all protoss win cons cost 2 more mana>locations created by elise now only have 2 durablity>chrono boost now summons a 4/4 with rush >sentry is now 3 mana>void ray gains 1/1 if it costs zero >hallucination costs 2 mana >windspeak wyrm kindred now reduces cost by 2 >leeches now have 1 health >headless horseman no longer has a blood rune and has a second unholy rune >Spirit peddler now reduces cost of a minion in hand by 4>ferocious felbat now has 6 attack and 4 health >birdwatching now costs 3 mana>turbulus now costs 4 mana>discover hunter hero power now costs 2 >imbue paladin hero power now costs 2 >timelooper toki is now a 3 mana 3/3 and gives 3 spells to play before you get another >manifested timeways costs 3 mana and is a 2/2 >chronological aura costs 4 mana >chillspine steggadon now deals 3 damage and can hit heroes there I fixed your game
>>549711950>>549712231sketch artist -> table flip sounds pretty good, i lose a lot just by not drawing a board clear.
>>549712646It is. Takes some getting used to managing hand space, ideally you play it on turn 6 with 9 cards in hand, which is not uncommon after playing shadowflame stalker on 4 or 5. That way you can play two table flips for 3 mana.
I also run 2x eat the imp and rotheart dryads to draw. Again, I lean more into the OTK and so use more control tools then the netdeck list.
>>549661580It is essentially meaningless because the game is still rigged.
cora HELP
>>549723029i cant they rig game im in hostage in server room 5
>got this guy from a packhow do i scam games with him?
>>549728125that deck is too hard and inconsistent
>>549728125go back in time to when dredge cards existed and take it with you
It feels like there are new events pretty much every week
>>549728930why make the game good if you can have FREE STUFF and grind your dailies?
>>549728125
>>549729343at least post epic trailer
>>549728930it's the easiest way to cheese engagement metrics so cora can hit her quarterly bonus
literally can this fucking class even lose a game? everything about that deck is so retardedly overpowered it feels like a waste of timelike 3 mana draw 2 cards give them both +2/+2? 3 mana draw 2 is already solid and on top of that buff them both? it's so fucking stupid that i'm dealing with lethal on board every turn from turn 3 onwards
>>549731090>win last game>next game>0 mana 10/10>1 mana 6/6>6 mana 16/16IF you lose YOU LOSE tnx scripted algo UninstalledShaman most easiest class to rig btw just toss him curve cards
>>549731358the easiest way to rig games right now is just give players Elise on curve. i've played three games and all three my opponent had her on curve, I didn't have her once. such a shit meta honestly, it's insufferable to play
Sic semper protosscucks
>>549731090Play cliff dh and keep copying poison blob
>>549732641This shit will be nerfed before shaman despite being slow and inconsistent
i came back after not playing since 2019, was last playing during saviors of uldumduring these couple of days of grinding new player mode and bronze standard ranked i found myself stupefied multiple timesmodern boards and turns put prime cubelocks and tempo druids/murlock shamans to shameis there a video/wiki that can spoonfeed me all the new mechanics and current meta or something, though i doubt i'll even try going for legend
>randomly generate elusive hamm>keep buffing him with stone carver every turn>eats their azshara>eats their seismopod>eats their eliseI knew that buying the battlepass would put me on the good side of the algorithm
>>549733189there's no way the deck is super mid and there are a bunch of OTKs in the game alreadythis isn't even a true OTK, it needs 2 minions on the board too
this warband was so nasty lol, nobody had a chance in my lobby
>>549734606If dragons are in you can put the poet next to an amalgam for infinite statsEven post nerf I had a comp with reborn apex, macaw, titus and in just two turns my amalgam was at 100k/100k
>>549283152me when I face a protoss deck for the 15384842th time
>>549735204Mage protoss?It’s very easy, if you are not an aggro deck, just don’t play minions unnecessarily. Never put down a minion that has 3 or less health early game. Run the location destroying tech card if you really lose a lot and it delays them by at least 3 turns. Armor up to get out of lethal range. Use a deck tracker to see how much damage laser beam will doSometimes they highroll with deios and a 0 mana minion on 7 but you’ll probably still have a 70% winrate against them
>accidentally start Duos>oh well how bad can playing with randos be?>fucking retard sells all the key tavern buff minions I keep passing him so he can keep his shitty wrath weaver soul rewinder combo going right into 3rd place
>>549735598>just don't pressure the otk deck bro
>>549735598>not playing minions vs X deckwait a minute... sound familiar
>>549736012Every meta deck can start pumping out 4+ health minions on like turn 3Don’t just put a murmy down on 1 and then wonder why their sentinel costs 2 less
>>549735598That strategy maybe used to be viable before Deios. But you can't outlast and out armor them anymore. There's a reason it changed from fringe to one of the top meta decks after Deios was released.
>>549731560>curve elise>losekek should curve tempo bitch
>>549736942this is off curve he played location on 6
>>549736942That hand has almost all of the top 10 most cancerous cards in standard, you don’t get to complain about elise lmao
>against quest mage>they get their quest reward>have arena announcer in hand>don’t wanna play it because then I would be a total asshole and he’d inmediately concede>end up losing
>>549737737it has zero good or meta cards
>Ship Rogue meta ?>roger match you with 300 armor warlockI love Algo dude must be mad....
>>549737854you right>>549737737you wrongTwisting nether - no one plays it (maybe if some raafam deck)Umbra - fringe after nigger warrior nerfSilence - tech played in dragon warrior sometimesSeethless - lol no one plays it (i play because i dont trust Fyrakk)Wheel - zero plays in metaLocation - dead card (i use it for extra heal/clear)Sleeper - sleeper dh maybe most played card in my handMoarg - -1% played
Forgot about my sexo girlAll forgot about her... me on the left btw
>>549736942how horribly does a shaman have to draw to drop a 1/1 murloc on turn 7by that turn the 1 mana one is already like 10/10
>>549739586anon... thats scripted match he tried to push damage with star location and alakir and my hp down to 7 then i topdeck zilli and my armor combos
>>549737854>>549738596I didnt say good or meta, I said cancerous, they are all fucking annoying to play against
>>549739961well if meta cancer otk/shiton of damage per turn armor is cure
>>549737829>Play badly>Lose>CryIconic!
>>549672353>when protoss sloppers make balance patches
>>549737829that was very cute of you anon :3
>>549728125>burn 3600 gold on golden packs only to get this useless bitchThanks i hate it
>>549743281>>549745183I learned my lesson, I no longer let my opponents have any fun
>king llane invalidates city chief eshoah yes because this motherfucker wasn't useless enough already
>>549671557Does this mean hamdbuff pally is back?
Most underrated card of the expansion so farIt doesn't sound good on paper, but in practice sniping a big guy they dropped down or many small annoying guys at once is so satisfying.I wish it also killed summoned minions, but oh well
>>549758461He's alright, 6 mana 7/5 that gets you some tempo + tribe is definitely usable, but the deck doesn't suffer much without him. If it was summoned minions it would be super broken.Most underrated most likely goes to Garona. Everybody rated her as trash and only good for fun and she's one of the best class legendaries. Lo'gosh was also rated pretty poorly and it's a fine fabled legend.
>>549758461kills half a bellhop lol
>>549760002Garona is only good for her weapon and -1 card
>>549739265BOW DOWN BEFORE MA HUGE, BOG CRETURE - some hairy midget
>>549739265Why is he giving me the finger?
zacho says you have to play dragon warrior again (with elise)
>>549764526he's holding fruit for the gnome. you blind.
>>549764607its so tiring how every archetype seems to just improve by adding more and more legendariesdragon warrior was reasonably cheap now it's up to 15k dustazshara now needs owlonius and a bunch of other shit
>>549765884Do people still have dust issues in 2025? Just buy a bunch of gold packs, like 5-10, and dust everything you get. Hell you probably have a ton of worthless crap cards in gold already for 1:1 free dust
>>549765884also have you noticed that every keyword after quickdraw is unused in mini sets? i miss when mini sets used to have stuff related to previous expansions :c
>>549768159I came back for ungoro so I missing minisets and a shit ton of cards from 2024
erm uh oh bros... buffies
>>549768807Oh, I see.
>>549768932>buffing DHsurely this will go well
>>549768932i don't even know what the fuck half of those are, shows how much play they've had
>>549768932most of it is gonna be 1 mana cost reductions.
>>549768932toki sisters……
>>549768932WHERE ARE THE NERFS????
>>549769680That’s usually enough. 90% of hs decks just pick whatever is best for a mana slot to be on curve
>>549770018you don't need nerfs if you overbuff cards lmao
>>549768932hey i have a bunch of these cardssweet
>>549768932>shameless warlock shillingfine by me
>>549768932>No Shaman Nerfs>No Warrior Nerfs>No Hunter NerfsCora???? Cora… CORAAAAAAAAAAA
>>549770018no dust for you
>>549768932>cardboard golem buffedGoddamit paladin is gonna be annoying
>>549772572Fuck the dust. I want Standard to stop being utter fucking mage and shaman cancer. Fuck you.
>>549773248isn't no minions dh cancer now?
>>549772757one extra turn won't change shit, if aura paladin hasn't won in 3 turns after slamming gelbin it's not winning
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