dead game[PoE 1]>Keepers of the Flamehttps://www.pathofexile.com/keepers>3.27 Keepers patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3869067>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7J[Poo 2]>The Turd Edict / Rise of the Abysmalhttps://pathofexile2.com/edict>Ongoing 0.3.1 patch poteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>December 4th livestream & Dec 12th free weekendhttps://pathofexile2.com/freeweekendprevious map (we call them MAPS and not WAYSTONES here)>>548958573
I didn't play last league, were there any fun builds?
POE2 GOOD
I think Blizz had inside info and new the POE league was lacking and that is why they changed their launch date and are stealth dropping pally
Alright this came to mind just now, ill post it here so GGG can implement it later on because ive already had multiple of my posts implemented into the fucking game at this pointmake charges in poe2 a meta gem, that costs 100-150 spirit to use and 50-100 spirit for each charge gem put in endurance, frenzy, poweryou can then add +1 minimum and +1 maximum more on the trees and on gearyou can then use the skills that give charges in game like killing palm and the eating wryven thing as a giga damage boost to your next charge attackthere you go fixed the whole charge system
>remove homo omen>95% of crafting power gone>now you need to spend lot more time getting actually good items for your build>delaying late game content by week'sJohnathan is a cunt
blue life wonrhoa mount wonpoe1 onefubgun gundadgamers lamers
can druid be female? i only play girl chars because ggg male chars always look like ass
guys i'm getting kinda worried wolvesmen is just shittier ice strike with built in rigwald's ring
jump back on the cross slash seems very retarded
>>549150984>late game content by week'slate game content like what?
>>549150984>>delaying late game content by week'sgood we got endgame items too quickly last league, abyss crafting was fucking busted with homo omens
>Old good, new bad>Old bad, new good>repeat ad nauseamGet new material.
I'm downloading loop hero to prepare since Jon boy mentioned it.
>>549150984>delaying late game content by week'sWtf kinda modded version of PoE 2 are you playing where there's late game content that ever took weeks to reach?
>>549151283that game sucks fucking ass. play CZN.
Shaman or Oracle?
>>549150984It was literally more powerful than original harvest. I expected a nerf to greater and perfects also.
nobody is gonna use none of that dumbass generator spender combo shitWOOOHOO LET ME JUMP BACK AND JUMP FORWARDS AND JUMP TO THE SIDEjust put the lightning arrow in the bag johnnyboy
>>549151371pathfinder
poo1 EOS soon poo2 EOS soon after that
>>549151193you can jump back towards the direction you want to go, like with disengage. it's a movement skill
>>549151391>I expected a nerf to greater and perfects also.ggg can just lower the drop rates without telling us. that's why they prefer this system to a crafting bench.
Alright, so everyone said armor applying to elemental damage was the worst thing ever invented, because it applies before resists.Now that the dust has settled, were they right?
>>549151709no
>>549150821Good one.
>>549151371Shaman is basically Rage builds, Oracle im personally waiting on its 130 passives to be released because other than that its a lot of damage mitigation, chronomancer style skills and passive tree allocation without connecting to it so its really dependent on the build you go for
>>549151709It's kinda good because bottom of the tree has nothing else to put points into for defense.The retard that just presses ES nodes on the tree still is like 5x more tanky though.
>>549151391>I expected a nerf to greater and perfects alsoItem acquisition is already too easy the incessant screeching from the subhuman roach fuck PoE community is already on its way to ruin PoE 2
Poe2 is a failed experiment that needs to die so the arpg genre can live
>>54915170920 IQ take - armour is bad because resists apply after armour120 IQ take - resists are bad because resists apply after armourYou still need to invest into them for dots though
It is ridiculous how much they copy from d2 and pat themselves on their backs. And almost everything they dont copy is exclusively shit. And even things they do copy like the stupid runes can be really fucking bad.Its a shitty game
what is with this pick up your infusion off the ground shit? I don't get it
based empy dunking on redditors
>>549152173>Everything people like in PoE 2 is either shamelessly copied from D2 or a left over/begrudgingly added back from PoE 1Why does PoE 2 even exist?
>>549151709it's extremely good because you can stack ridiculous amounts of it. 50% off of a single body armour substat roll.
>>549151709Its good but the issue is that they implemented it as though it would completely solve the issue of red life having almost 0 sources of increase when compared to ES. Which, obviously, was never going to work. Its "bad" because they were retarded enough to think it would be a fix.Literally all they need to do is add a few increased life nodes on the tree.That's all. They don't even need to nerf ES. Just make life regen and increased life more prevalent.
>>549152427PoE2's core fanbase and supporters are losers who make shit builds every league because they think good builds are for people with no skill
>>549152427actually based
>>549152427>group magic find players crying about having to wait longer to farm the best items in the game for a couple days so they can do whatever the fuck they want for the rest of the leaguethe redditor is right in this situation all builds can work in endgame this is the smartest shit ggg has done for poe2, more meaningful combat stronger monsters and not having to 1 shot entire screen builds are needed by tier 15/16
>>549152427the funny part is "kiting build" is literally the design of Spearfield from .3 onwards.
>>549152427>KITING BUILDS
>>549152827I wish all ironic shitposters would suddenly drop dead.
What is the dragon knight build this league?
>>549122586What anime is this from?
Guys, let's all get together and make a videogame better than this one?We make it pixel art, that instantly gets us everyone that was born before and after the 90s, after that we just go playing by ear./g/ even has some good video game developing threads that we can study from.Maybe we can launch a good game on steam, have our own company and then expand to other genres.
>GGG is smartThe funniest shit posted is just after league announcement but before it goes live
>>549151562Which is shit since it's such an important utility skill for wolf guy. Why the fuck make it annoying to use?
>>549153147You are all brand risk. The game is DOA just because you are here
>>549153147Unironically a /poeg/ gaming company would likely mog GGG.
>>549152971nice argument oh wait you didnt say shit
poison builds are kiting builds regards
>>549153147>pixel artnah unc, I'm good thx
>>549151709A reasonable expectation after seeing shit like chillproof was that the gear value for armor applies to ele would cap out at maybe like 15% but instead it went up to like 50%. That is pretty fucking weird and creates a lot of future and current issues. Currently you're immortal to ele hits but you're paper to any dots and kinda eh to phys hits(which is strange). Any future big increase to life will brick the game because you'll be immortal with pretty mid gear. Also any future dot damage shit just completely bricks current armor shit.
>>549152427Dogshit jank should be endgame viable in poe 2 with good gear.That's the point the redditor is making, and he's right. That's why there's a combo system. So you can pull off some bing bang wahoo without getting swarmed and stunned a lot
>>549152427Fuck this gypsy tranny and anyone who thinks there's only one right way to play the game
>>549153259There are international cocaine smugglers being brand faces for protein icecream, just saying...
>>549153439you are conflating no regen shit with dot damage, there is no dangerous dot in the game and there never will be because its balanced around lower life pools and recovery.as for phys damage the only relevant hits are meant to be dodged anyway not facetanked as poe1tards do - its designed that way for a reason.
>>549153074Blease answer my guvestion
JONATROON
>>549154045>and there never will be
who else playing skipleague build
>>549152427>Ask a question>Answer it in his next sentenceIs he retarded?
im thingken..... uuuuh.... ice strike...invoker...
>>549153074>>549154074You don't know how to reverse images? I'll spoonfeed you if you don't
>>549154331Haven't even installed poe 2 yet. Just doesn't look fun.
>>549154462based sperglord. it's it hard to infer what he meant
>>549154331steelmagepilled
im thinking thorns kiting build
>>549152427Empy is the perfect example of someone that seems like they'd be happier playing an Idle RPG
>he is a jingakh
>>549153217I said the movement IS an aspect of its utility.
I'm getting farmed by Uber Maventhe whole fucking arena gets covered in piss and I just die from degenI have 10 divs left so I can try two more times
>>549152718high-grade enriched trvke
>>549153894that's a commentary on the audience for protein icecream more than anything else.
I remember when we used pages and pages of patch notes for poe 1. Now we don't get that in either game. This league is so tiny. The druid ascendancy nodes look insanely shit and it'll talismans will almost certainly be better on a warrior. The weapon design in poe 2 is absolute shit and will always hold the game back. I think this league is a pass.
I don't even know who the FUCK empy is
>>549153724t. struggles in white maps
>anon told me block wasn't HC viable>made a char that has almost no defensive layers other than lucky attack block >running 16.5s on HC and I'm a few levels off 100
i can understand poe1 getting a filler update but how did poe2 also get a filler update
>>549155775block is one of the strongest defenses in the gamewhen people complain about block its because they also completely ignore their max hit and are invulnerable 99% of the time before getting randomly one-shot
>>549155886because poor poowunners wanted ggg to keep updating their shitty dated game and it set the development of an actual game far back we went from having a 60% chance of full release in 2025 to a probability of NOT releasing the full game in 2026
>>549155886>>549156079>>549155612didn't read
>>549155886Not sure how you failed to notice, but if you exclude art, the number of people working on both POE games can fit on 1 hand. There's only so much 3-4 people can make.
Sup brownies, reminder that one game can make GGG successful, and the other will drag them down. No it's not the old game with no future.
>new titan node>quick volcanic fissure twice>third slam leap slam entire screenso what are the chances it overlaps 4x for single target with enough aoe?
>>549155775>has almost no defensive layersIdk what this means in PoE 2?
>>549156110Why does a video game company, with 240 employees, have such a small engineering team?
>>549156352Because it's much easier to make a profit with minimal expenses, and the audience clearly doesn't mind and keeps coming back to the game.
>>549154638Spoonfeed me
Bear Smith of Kitava using tectonic slam?
Distressing news about /ourgal/ lily.https://youtu.be/O9YijSNgM6I?t=365Her previous username was RWDS_Lily, RWDS standing for... Right Wind Death Squad.We cannot let this stand.
ITS UP
>>549156837>kalandra so low its not even on the graph
>>549156946Just for you
>>549156837Honestly, I liked Keepers. One of the better leagues imo.
>>549156238>quick volcanic fissure twicetime you slam a fissure it spreads a single damage wave through all your fissures and branches, you don't get shotgunning from multiple fissures. (t. tested this yesterday). aftershocks from slamming a existing fissure won't proc extra damage waves either because both kinds of repeat damage are now part of the aftershock system. aftershocks generated when you do the fissure initially SHOULD generate extra waves though with the new Mountain Splitter node. I saw a reddit post saying a single Sunder might repeatedly proc fissures but I haven't got a character to late act 2 yet to test it yet.
>>549156352Mtx is the primary driver of their sales. You think you are buying a well designed game for well adjusted rpg fans who want to slay monsters, but you're not. What you are really buying is the simulacra of a game with a real purpose of selling dress up dolls to animetards and the various groups of disaffected loser coomers, trannies, and their orbiters. It only appears like a game from the outside, but inside it's a homosexual funkopop collector social experiment
>>549157054Me too, I think it's going to keep all the browns in POE1 instead of the better game. They wouldn't want to forget to queue up the next Kingsmarch boat or map device.
>>549157171Kingsmarch is a big div/hr boost. You don't want to skip it
>>549156352you're assuming that adding more engineers would lead to better results, to which I say: take a look at the bugginess of AAA releases for the last couple of decades.
>>549157108fissure isnt for damage its just to proc the titan node, just load it up with attack speed.
poe2tard hereare we basically forced to use the reload nodes in the tree when playing crossbow?
>>549156814Right wind death squad?>Oh no>She's gonna gas us
>>549156110Jonathan confirmed that the balance team alone is now six.
>>549157417Mark said it was 5. and he said they were 3 people they pulled from QA
>>549157331>are we forced to use attack speed nodes when playing quarterstaves?
>>549157547fuck off i am genuinely asking because bolt swapping is fucking horrible
>the official Diablo channel used to get millions of views>now it has 1/50th the views of poe2Why did D4 flop?
>>549157653because streamers kept pushing the narrative you have heard so many timesthey are doing the same way with poe2
>>549157331depends on buildGrenades dont give a shit about reload speed, thats why they are basedIf you are going Explsive Shot/Lightning sharts you must use reload speed nodes unless you are playing with that unique crossbow
>>549157417Cool, and I'm sure all those people also have another job at the company, possibly another 2-3.You can glean a lot of what I'm saying from Jono and Baldo interviews, and the individual career progressions of other GGG members. Maybe my post about the number of people fitting on one hand is overexaggerated, but it's clearly a skeleton crew juggling 5 things at once.
>>549157327>so what are the chances it overlaps 4x for single target with enough aoe?its more likely that +AoE just spreads the aftershocks out so they don't overlap. you'd be better off reducing the AoE to try to get multiple hits on big bosses.
>>549157653My theory is that there is just no one worth believing in at all in any position that could affect the direction of the game. It's not even a situation of the higher-ups are pushing back on them, the lowly Diablo department, and preventing them from making a good game. It's just the leadership at every level, the decision makers at every step are fucking incompetent. They were handed a respected IP and shit on it for nothing.
>>549157803>Grenades dont give a shit about reload speed, thats why they are based>If you are going Explsive Shot/Lightning sharts you must use reload speed nodes unless you are playing with that unique crossbowOk i get it, though i thought it weird that we allocate nodes on what are basically qol, or are crossbow skills really that powerful on their own?
>>549157813all of your assumptions about how game design works have been proven incorrect by years of indie games outperforming big studios.
>>549157813>Cool, and I'm sureTry being a bit less sure
>>549157653D4 didn't flop. It sold a ton of copies.Just lmao at your life if you thought D4 was gonna have a sales strategy other than selling copies of the base game and expansions, with bare bones leagues in between.I have to give them credit though, they put way more effort in-between expansions than I expected
>>549157108SHOCKED and SLAMMED
>>549157653meritocracy?
>>549158070I have no reason to be less sure, I'm verifiably correct about the fact that people in GGG are doing multiple (sometime unrelated) jobs at once, it's just a matter of how many do it and how much of a negative impact it creates.And this isn't even without looking at the output/patch scope, which tells you the whole story by itself.
>>549156627
>>549158135going off how much 'poch cost d4 must be a couple billion in the red by now with all their server and employee costs.
>>549158034>Ok i get it, though i thought it weird that we allocate nodes on what are basically qolYou shouldnt desu and thats weird logicEvery node you allocate on tree is qolMore damage/attack speed/cast speed/etc - qol because you clear packs faster More MS - qol, it doesnt help you clear faster but you clear map fasterMore defense - qol, you will die less often which means less time to get in and out map to clear it.Treat reload speed same.
>>549158135>D4 didn't flop. It sold a ton of copies.literally the Disney Star Wars of the gaming industry.
are we all playing druid?
>>549158586wont be playing
>>549158263>I see no reason to be less sure>it's just a matter of how many do it and how much of a negative impact it creates.sounds like you're not all that sure
>>549158586Well we sure as shit ain't playing the old game with worse graphics and gameplay. I guess it does have more skinner box qualities though.
>>549158586I will go with witchhunter, he is literally best class for shapeshifting with his "weapon mastery" ascendancy.One tree for animal formOther tree for human formNo idea if the build will be good, but i am sure it will be thematically fun.
>>549158680I think I clarified how sure I am, but if you need human contact that badly, I'm here for you bro, I'll give you every subsequent (You) as well.
>>549158680>sounds like you're not all that sureYeah sounds like he has one of those fake jobs
>>549158925It's ok Zaccie, you can be honest about Jono making you clean the toilets as well.
>>549159048According to you the entire PoE 2 team excluding art is 3-4 people I know that you probably have some fake gay ass job where you can talk yourself out of any situation but you'll have to prove that retarded claim right now or fuck off
>>549159236>fake job>talk your way out of anything>speech or expression of intellect as a negative thingBrown post.
worst quest in the game
bros we have to start our practice runs
>>549159385i am going to start practice run with your mom
>>549159335Don't eat the mushrooms, they bite.
>>549159315>expression of intellectKEK
>PoE1 Frostblink>3s cooldown>costs nearly 0 mana to cast>does some cold damage so you can chill enemies>also looks very cool>PoE2 Blink>4s cooldown>reserves 60 spirit because fuck you>does no damage>replaces dodge roll for some reasonWhat is wrong with that game?
Enemy abilities are so cool, water hag water abilities, the purple flower ability that explodes.
>>549159236>According to you the entire PoE 2 team excluding art is 3-4 peopleSure feels like it, and why else would you have Jonathan, a Game Director, doing code for the league mechanic? Because they have barely any coders.Also it's cute how you think I have some kind of insecurity about how important my job is, says a lot about you and your own career.
>Pathetic NEETs arguing over career? ? ?
What is the Water Hag ability considered, a curse?Ice damage?I wonder if we can capture her and use her on the team, I like how her abilities look so much.
>>549159847To be fair Jonathan is a freak of nature who coded the Path of Exile engine singlehandedly. Not many people here understand what it means to be the master of their own domains like that.
>>549159847>Sure feels like itThat's all you retards do talk about your feelings no facts.
>>549157312More than 3 would lead to more developed in a similar time, yes. "B-but look at bigger studios!" is a cope, because the issues there is nothing to do with the size of their teams and everything to do with management pressure, not enough time, and poor management of the SDLC.I've worked in companies with giant engineering teams and released multi million dollar projects with many integrated parts developed by separate teams with only minor bugs. Granted they weren't video games but quite honestly there's little difference aside from time scale.
>>549160021>who coded the Path of Exile engine singlehandedlylil bro actually believes this
why does jonatroon always look like such a happy dysgenic merchant goblin when he's explaining his shitty mechanics
>>549160094Yeah, and it feels like you're a fucking retard for taking a phrase like "feels like" literally.
>>549160356he's from new zealand
grok dropping redpills on quin's stream rn
>>549160356This is his game and we're just playing in it. I hope he gets his confidence back to push back more on the browns demanding to make the game worse. Here's hoping.
If you're going to blog about gay streamers at least talk about ones who actually play PoE and are capable of getting more than 2 voidstones.
ARPGs should NOT have crafting
>>549157653d4 bad
HARD AF
>>549161456he looks cuteWTF
>>549152427>One white bullet sponge mob per screen would be peak gameplay
>>549156079Poe 1 should go into maintenance mode and just have resets without mechanics or recycle past leagues.
>/poog/ resorts to dickriding actual gypsy scammers nowdaysOOF
>>549161752Business will eventually demand it be scaled back to allow the new game with a real future to thrive so all we have to do is wait and laugh. This is what thirdies will never understand, the drive to be successful.
>>549155775>and I'm a few levels off 100Anon, lv 98 is literally halfway of Level 1 to 100.
A huge number of the inflated poo2 numbers are dad gamersDo you think dad gamers are the ones who are going to come back league after league and sink thousands of hours into the game? Do you think they're the ones who are going to buy mtx?Total player count literally means nothing to GGG in terms of profitability btw; the final game will be free. They're making the same mistake nintendo did: they're trying to create addicted autists out of light gamers. It doesn't work.
>>549162218>they're the ones who are going to buy mtx?You're kinda right about everything else but dad gamers love mtx. They'll probably buy more mtx than you the two times they bother to play 0.1 and 1.0(maybe 2.0 and 3.0 too)
>>549162218Ah yes, dad gamers don't have disposable income for MTX, third world browns do.Think before you post.
>>549162218so you are predicting poe 2 to fail because it wont make any money?
redpill me on spark
