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[PoE 1]
>Keepers of the Flame
https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers
>3.27 Keepers patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3869067
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7J

[Poo 2]
>The Turd Edict / Rise of the Abysmal
https://pathofexile2.com/edict
>Ongoing 0.3.1 patch potes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212
>December 4th livestream & Dec 12th free weekend
https://pathofexile2.com/freeweekend

previous map (we call them MAPS and not WAYSTONES here)
>>548958573
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I didn't play last league, were there any fun builds?
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POE2 GOOD
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I think Blizz had inside info and new the POE league was lacking and that is why they changed their launch date and are stealth dropping pally
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Alright this came to mind just now, ill post it here so GGG can implement it later on because ive already had multiple of my posts implemented into the fucking game at this point

make charges in poe2 a meta gem, that costs 100-150 spirit to use and 50-100 spirit for each charge gem put in endurance, frenzy, power

you can then add +1 minimum and +1 maximum more on the trees and on gear

you can then use the skills that give charges in game like killing palm and the eating wryven thing as a giga damage boost to your next charge attack

there you go fixed the whole charge system
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>remove homo omen
>95% of crafting power gone
>now you need to spend lot more time getting actually good items for your build
>delaying late game content by week's
Johnathan is a cunt
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blue life won
rhoa mount won
poe1 one
fubgun gun

dadgamers lamers
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can druid be female? i only play girl chars because ggg male chars always look like ass
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guys i'm getting kinda worried wolvesmen is just shittier ice strike with built in rigwald's ring
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jump back on the cross slash seems very retarded
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>>549150984
>late game content by week's
late game content like what?
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>>549150984
>>delaying late game content by week's
good we got endgame items too quickly last league, abyss crafting was fucking busted with homo omens
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>Old good, new bad
>Old bad, new good
>repeat ad nauseam
Get new material.
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I'm downloading loop hero to prepare since Jon boy mentioned it.
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>>549150984
>delaying late game content by week's
Wtf kinda modded version of PoE 2 are you playing where there's late game content that ever took weeks to reach?
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>>549151283
that game sucks fucking ass. play CZN.
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Shaman or Oracle?
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>>549150984
It was literally more powerful than original harvest. I expected a nerf to greater and perfects also.
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nobody is gonna use none of that dumbass generator spender combo shit
WOOOHOO LET ME JUMP BACK AND JUMP FORWARDS AND JUMP TO THE SIDE
just put the lightning arrow in the bag johnnyboy
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>>549151371
pathfinder
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poo1 EOS soon
poo2 EOS soon after that
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>>549151193
you can jump back towards the direction you want to go, like with disengage. it's a movement skill
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>>549151391
>I expected a nerf to greater and perfects also.

ggg can just lower the drop rates without telling us. that's why they prefer this system to a crafting bench.
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Alright, so everyone said armor applying to elemental damage was the worst thing ever invented, because it applies before resists.
Now that the dust has settled, were they right?
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>>549151709
no
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>>549150821
Good one.
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>>549151371
Shaman is basically Rage builds, Oracle im personally waiting on its 130 passives to be released because other than that its a lot of damage mitigation, chronomancer style skills and passive tree allocation without connecting to it so its really dependent on the build you go for
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>>549151709
It's kinda good because bottom of the tree has nothing else to put points into for defense.
The retard that just presses ES nodes on the tree still is like 5x more tanky though.
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>>549151391
>I expected a nerf to greater and perfects also
Item acquisition is already too easy the incessant screeching from the subhuman roach fuck PoE community is already on its way to ruin PoE 2
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Poe2 is a failed experiment that needs to die so the arpg genre can live
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>>549151709
20 IQ take - armour is bad because resists apply after armour
120 IQ take - resists are bad because resists apply after armour
You still need to invest into them for dots though
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It is ridiculous how much they copy from d2 and pat themselves on their backs. And almost everything they dont copy is exclusively shit. And even things they do copy like the stupid runes can be really fucking bad.
Its a shitty game
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what is with this pick up your infusion off the ground shit? I don't get it
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based empy dunking on redditors
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>>549152173
>Everything people like in PoE 2 is either shamelessly copied from D2 or a left over/begrudgingly added back from PoE 1
Why does PoE 2 even exist?
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>>549151709
it's extremely good because you can stack ridiculous amounts of it. 50% off of a single body armour substat roll.
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>>549151709
Its good but the issue is that they implemented it as though it would completely solve the issue of red life having almost 0 sources of increase when compared to ES. Which, obviously, was never going to work. Its "bad" because they were retarded enough to think it would be a fix.

Literally all they need to do is add a few increased life nodes on the tree.

That's all. They don't even need to nerf ES. Just make life regen and increased life more prevalent.
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>>549152427
PoE2's core fanbase and supporters are losers who make shit builds every league because they think good builds are for people with no skill
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>>549152427
actually based
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>>549152427
>group magic find players crying about having to wait longer to farm the best items in the game for a couple days so they can do whatever the fuck they want for the rest of the league

the redditor is right in this situation all builds can work in endgame this is the smartest shit ggg has done for poe2, more meaningful combat stronger monsters and not having to 1 shot entire screen builds are needed by tier 15/16
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>>549152427
the funny part is "kiting build" is literally the design of Spearfield from .3 onwards.
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>>549152427
>KITING BUILDS
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>>549152827
I wish all ironic shitposters would suddenly drop dead.
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What is the dragon knight build this league?
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>>549122586
What anime is this from?
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Guys, let's all get together and make a videogame better than this one?
We make it pixel art, that instantly gets us everyone that was born before and after the 90s, after that we just go playing by ear.
/g/ even has some good video game developing threads that we can study from.
Maybe we can launch a good game on steam, have our own company and then expand to other genres.
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>GGG is smart
The funniest shit posted is just after league announcement but before it goes live
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>>549151562
Which is shit since it's such an important utility skill for wolf guy. Why the fuck make it annoying to use?
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>>549153147
You are all brand risk. The game is DOA just because you are here
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>>549153147
Unironically a /poeg/ gaming company would likely mog GGG.
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>>549152971
nice argument oh wait you didnt say shit
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poison builds are kiting builds regards
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>>549153147
>pixel art
nah unc, I'm good thx
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>>549151709
A reasonable expectation after seeing shit like chillproof was that the gear value for armor applies to ele would cap out at maybe like 15% but instead it went up to like 50%. That is pretty fucking weird and creates a lot of future and current issues. Currently you're immortal to ele hits but you're paper to any dots and kinda eh to phys hits(which is strange). Any future big increase to life will brick the game because you'll be immortal with pretty mid gear. Also any future dot damage shit just completely bricks current armor shit.
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>>549152427
Dogshit jank should be endgame viable in poe 2 with good gear.
That's the point the redditor is making, and he's right.
That's why there's a combo system. So you can pull off some bing bang wahoo without getting swarmed and stunned a lot
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>>549152427
Fuck this gypsy tranny and anyone who thinks there's only one right way to play the game
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>>549153259
There are international cocaine smugglers being brand faces for protein icecream, just saying...
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>>549153439
you are conflating no regen shit with dot damage, there is no dangerous dot in the game and there never will be because its balanced around lower life pools and recovery.
as for phys damage the only relevant hits are meant to be dodged anyway not facetanked as poe1tards do - its designed that way for a reason.
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>>549153074
Blease answer my guvestion
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JONATROON
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>>549154045
>and there never will be
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who else playing skipleague build
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>>549152427
>Ask a question
>Answer it in his next sentence
Is he retarded?
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im thingken..... uuuuh.... ice strike...invoker...
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>>549153074
>>549154074
You don't know how to reverse images? I'll spoonfeed you if you don't
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>>549154331
Haven't even installed poe 2 yet. Just doesn't look fun.
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>>549154462
based sperglord. it's it hard to infer what he meant
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>>549154331
steelmagepilled
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im thinking thorns kiting build
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>>549152427
Empy is the perfect example of someone that seems like they'd be happier playing an Idle RPG
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>he is a jingakh
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>>549153217
I said the movement IS an aspect of its utility.
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I'm getting farmed by Uber Maven
the whole fucking arena gets covered in piss and I just die from degen
I have 10 divs left so I can try two more times
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>>549152718
high-grade enriched trvke
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>>549153894
that's a commentary on the audience for protein icecream more than anything else.
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I remember when we used pages and pages of patch notes for poe 1. Now we don't get that in either game. This league is so tiny. The druid ascendancy nodes look insanely shit and it'll talismans will almost certainly be better on a warrior. The weapon design in poe 2 is absolute shit and will always hold the game back. I think this league is a pass.
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I don't even know who the FUCK empy is
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>>549153724
t. struggles in white maps
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>anon told me block wasn't HC viable
>made a char that has almost no defensive layers other than lucky attack block
>running 16.5s on HC and I'm a few levels off 100
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i can understand poe1 getting a filler update but how did poe2 also get a filler update
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>>549155775
block is one of the strongest defenses in the game
when people complain about block its because they also completely ignore their max hit and are invulnerable 99% of the time before getting randomly one-shot
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>>549155886
because poor poowunners wanted ggg to keep updating their shitty dated game and it set the development of an actual game far back
we went from having a 60% chance of full release in 2025 to a probability of NOT releasing the full game in 2026
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>>549155886
>>549156079
>>549155612
didn't read
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>>549155886
Not sure how you failed to notice, but if you exclude art, the number of people working on both POE games can fit on 1 hand. There's only so much 3-4 people can make.
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Sup brownies, reminder that one game can make GGG successful, and the other will drag them down. No it's not the old game with no future.
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>new titan node
>quick volcanic fissure twice
>third slam leap slam entire screen
so what are the chances it overlaps 4x for single target with enough aoe?
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>>549155775
>has almost no defensive layers
Idk what this means in PoE 2?
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>>549156110
Why does a video game company, with 240 employees, have such a small engineering team?
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>>549156352
Because it's much easier to make a profit with minimal expenses, and the audience clearly doesn't mind and keeps coming back to the game.
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>>549154638
Spoonfeed me
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Bear Smith of Kitava using tectonic slam?
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Distressing news about /ourgal/ lily.
https://youtu.be/O9YijSNgM6I?t=365

Her previous username was RWDS_Lily, RWDS standing for... Right Wind Death Squad.

We cannot let this stand.
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ITS UP
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>>549156837
>kalandra so low its not even on the graph
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>>549156946
Just for you
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>>549156837
Honestly, I liked Keepers. One of the better leagues imo.
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>>549156238
>quick volcanic fissure twice
time you slam a fissure it spreads a single damage wave through all your fissures and branches, you don't get shotgunning from multiple fissures.
(t. tested this yesterday).

aftershocks from slamming a existing fissure won't proc extra damage waves either because both kinds of repeat damage are now part of the aftershock system. aftershocks generated when you do the fissure initially SHOULD generate extra waves though with the new Mountain Splitter node.

I saw a reddit post saying a single Sunder might repeatedly proc fissures but I haven't got a character to late act 2 yet to test it yet.
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>>549156352
Mtx is the primary driver of their sales. You think you are buying a well designed game for well adjusted rpg fans who want to slay monsters, but you're not. What you are really buying is the simulacra of a game with a real purpose of selling dress up dolls to animetards and the various groups of disaffected loser coomers, trannies, and their orbiters. It only appears like a game from the outside, but inside it's a homosexual funkopop collector social experiment
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>>549157054
Me too, I think it's going to keep all the browns in POE1 instead of the better game. They wouldn't want to forget to queue up the next Kingsmarch boat or map device.
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>>549157171
Kingsmarch is a big div/hr boost. You don't want to skip it
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>>549156352
you're assuming that adding more engineers would lead to better results, to which I say: take a look at the bugginess of AAA releases for the last couple of decades.
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>>549157108
fissure isnt for damage its just to proc the titan node, just load it up with attack speed.
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poe2tard here
are we basically forced to use the reload nodes in the tree when playing crossbow?
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>>549156814
Right wind death squad?
>Oh no
>She's gonna gas us
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>>549156110
Jonathan confirmed that the balance team alone is now six.
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>>549157417
Mark said it was 5. and he said they were 3 people they pulled from QA
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>>549157331
>are we forced to use attack speed nodes when playing quarterstaves?
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>>549157547
fuck off i am genuinely asking because bolt swapping is fucking horrible
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>the official Diablo channel used to get millions of views
>now it has 1/50th the views of poe2
Why did D4 flop?
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>>549157653
because streamers kept pushing the narrative you have heard so many times
they are doing the same way with poe2
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>>549157331
depends on build
Grenades dont give a shit about reload speed, thats why they are based
If you are going Explsive Shot/Lightning sharts you must use reload speed nodes unless you are playing with that unique crossbow
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>>549157417
Cool, and I'm sure all those people also have another job at the company, possibly another 2-3.
You can glean a lot of what I'm saying from Jono and Baldo interviews, and the individual career progressions of other GGG members. Maybe my post about the number of people fitting on one hand is overexaggerated, but it's clearly a skeleton crew juggling 5 things at once.
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>>549157327
>so what are the chances it overlaps 4x for single target with enough aoe?

its more likely that +AoE just spreads the aftershocks out so they don't overlap. you'd be better off reducing the AoE to try to get multiple hits on big bosses.
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>>549157653
My theory is that there is just no one worth believing in at all in any position that could affect the direction of the game. It's not even a situation of the higher-ups are pushing back on them, the lowly Diablo department, and preventing them from making a good game. It's just the leadership at every level, the decision makers at every step are fucking incompetent. They were handed a respected IP and shit on it for nothing.
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>>549157803
>Grenades dont give a shit about reload speed, thats why they are based
>If you are going Explsive Shot/Lightning sharts you must use reload speed nodes unless you are playing with that unique crossbow

Ok i get it, though i thought it weird that we allocate nodes on what are basically qol, or are crossbow skills really that powerful on their own?
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>>549157813
all of your assumptions about how game design works have been proven incorrect by years of indie games outperforming big studios.
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>>549157813
>Cool, and I'm sure
Try being a bit less sure
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>>549157653
D4 didn't flop. It sold a ton of copies.
Just lmao at your life if you thought D4 was gonna have a sales strategy other than selling copies of the base game and expansions, with bare bones leagues in between.
I have to give them credit though, they put way more effort in-between expansions than I expected
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>>549157108
SHOCKED and SLAMMED
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>>549157653
meritocracy?
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>>549158070
I have no reason to be less sure, I'm verifiably correct about the fact that people in GGG are doing multiple (sometime unrelated) jobs at once, it's just a matter of how many do it and how much of a negative impact it creates.
And this isn't even without looking at the output/patch scope, which tells you the whole story by itself.
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>>549156627
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>>549158135
going off how much 'poch cost d4 must be a couple billion in the red by now with all their server and employee costs.
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>>549158034
>Ok i get it, though i thought it weird that we allocate nodes on what are basically qol
You shouldnt desu and thats weird logic
Every node you allocate on tree is qol
More damage/attack speed/cast speed/etc - qol because you clear packs faster
More MS - qol, it doesnt help you clear faster but you clear map faster
More defense - qol, you will die less often which means less time to get in and out map to clear it.

Treat reload speed same.
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>>549158135
>D4 didn't flop. It sold a ton of copies.
literally the Disney Star Wars of the gaming industry.
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are we all playing druid?
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>>549158586
wont be playing
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>>549158263
>I see no reason to be less sure
>it's just a matter of how many do it and how much of a negative impact it creates.

sounds like you're not all that sure
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>>549158586
Well we sure as shit ain't playing the old game with worse graphics and gameplay. I guess it does have more skinner box qualities though.
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>>549158586
I will go with witchhunter, he is literally best class for shapeshifting with his "weapon mastery" ascendancy.
One tree for animal form
Other tree for human form
No idea if the build will be good, but i am sure it will be thematically fun.
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>>549158680
I think I clarified how sure I am, but if you need human contact that badly, I'm here for you bro, I'll give you every subsequent (You) as well.
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>>549158680
>sounds like you're not all that sure
Yeah sounds like he has one of those fake jobs
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>>549158925
It's ok Zaccie, you can be honest about Jono making you clean the toilets as well.
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>>549159048
According to you the entire PoE 2 team excluding art is 3-4 people I know that you probably have some fake gay ass job where you can talk yourself out of any situation but you'll have to prove that retarded claim right now or fuck off
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>>549159236
>fake job
>talk your way out of anything
>speech or expression of intellect as a negative thing

Brown post.
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worst quest in the game
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bros we have to start our practice runs
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>>549159385
i am going to start practice run with your mom
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>>549159335
Don't eat the mushrooms, they bite.
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>>549159315
>expression of intellect
KEK
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>PoE1 Frostblink
>3s cooldown
>costs nearly 0 mana to cast
>does some cold damage so you can chill enemies
>also looks very cool

>PoE2 Blink
>4s cooldown
>reserves 60 spirit because fuck you
>does no damage
>replaces dodge roll for some reason
What is wrong with that game?
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Enemy abilities are so cool, water hag water abilities, the purple flower ability that explodes.
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>>549159236
>According to you the entire PoE 2 team excluding art is 3-4 people
Sure feels like it, and why else would you have Jonathan, a Game Director, doing code for the league mechanic? Because they have barely any coders.
Also it's cute how you think I have some kind of insecurity about how important my job is, says a lot about you and your own career.
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>Pathetic NEETs arguing over career
? ? ?
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What is the Water Hag ability considered, a curse?
Ice damage?
I wonder if we can capture her and use her on the team, I like how her abilities look so much.
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>>549159847
To be fair Jonathan is a freak of nature who coded the Path of Exile engine singlehandedly. Not many people here understand what it means to be the master of their own domains like that.
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>>549159847
>Sure feels like it
That's all you retards do talk about your feelings no facts.
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>>549157312
More than 3 would lead to more developed in a similar time, yes. "B-but look at bigger studios!" is a cope, because the issues there is nothing to do with the size of their teams and everything to do with management pressure, not enough time, and poor management of the SDLC.

I've worked in companies with giant engineering teams and released multi million dollar projects with many integrated parts developed by separate teams with only minor bugs. Granted they weren't video games but quite honestly there's little difference aside from time scale.
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>>549160021
>who coded the Path of Exile engine singlehandedly
lil bro actually believes this
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why does jonatroon always look like such a happy dysgenic merchant goblin when he's explaining his shitty mechanics
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>>549160094
Yeah, and it feels like you're a fucking retard for taking a phrase like "feels like" literally.
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>>549160356
he's from new zealand
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grok dropping redpills on quin's stream rn
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>>549160356
This is his game and we're just playing in it. I hope he gets his confidence back to push back more on the browns demanding to make the game worse. Here's hoping.
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If you're going to blog about gay streamers at least talk about ones who actually play PoE and are capable of getting more than 2 voidstones.
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ARPGs should NOT have crafting
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>>549157653
d4 bad
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HARD AF
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>>549161456
he looks cute
WTF
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>>549152427
>One white bullet sponge mob per screen would be peak gameplay
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>>549156079
Poe 1 should go into maintenance mode and just have resets without mechanics or recycle past leagues.
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>/poog/ resorts to dickriding actual gypsy scammers nowdays
OOF
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>>549161752
Business will eventually demand it be scaled back to allow the new game with a real future to thrive so all we have to do is wait and laugh. This is what thirdies will never understand, the drive to be successful.
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>>549155775
>and I'm a few levels off 100
Anon, lv 98 is literally halfway of Level 1 to 100.
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A huge number of the inflated poo2 numbers are dad gamers

Do you think dad gamers are the ones who are going to come back league after league and sink thousands of hours into the game? Do you think they're the ones who are going to buy mtx?

Total player count literally means nothing to GGG in terms of profitability btw; the final game will be free.

They're making the same mistake nintendo did: they're trying to create addicted autists out of light gamers. It doesn't work.
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>>549162218
>they're the ones who are going to buy mtx?
You're kinda right about everything else but dad gamers love mtx. They'll probably buy more mtx than you the two times they bother to play 0.1 and 1.0(maybe 2.0 and 3.0 too)
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>>549162218
Ah yes, dad gamers don't have disposable income for MTX, third world browns do.

Think before you post.
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>>549162218
so you are predicting poe 2 to fail because it wont make any money?
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>>549158586
Can I be a TotemChad with Druid? The charge generation seems annoying and complicated
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>>549162593
infusions got buffed
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Do we have the challenge rewards? I like being rewarded for playing games
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>>549162898
no
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>>549162898
Sit the FUCK down chud, JONATHAN (PBUH) does not have time for your faggotry. He's gotta fill his TUB with the BROWN SPUD
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>>549162898
The logic now is that because POE2 is paid access, having free earnable MTX behind that initial paywall would be unfair to players who don't want to take the chance on early access.
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poe1 has better graphics than poe2 because somehow poe2 actually manages to have even more particle effect vomit
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>>549163004
what about the drops from streams or all the other time-limited MTX?
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>>549163004
but $90 fomo supporter packs are still fine? shut the fuck up jonathan
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>>549162043
If block was not HC viable, as was the insane original claim made in one of these threads, I would've died by now.
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>>549163136
Dude, you are seriously brown if you can't tell the difference. Holy fuck.

>>549163158
Brown.
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>>549163158
free game no bitchin
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>>549163193
Oh, not disputing that anon, go hit level 100, I believe in you! (it just might be further away than you think)
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>>549163258
feeling a little insecure there rajesh?
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>>549163025
Your visual clarity, sir.
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>>549163293
I'm not planning to do it now but I've done it before, it's honestly a shitton easier than on softcore, not dying is insanely helpful for leveling.
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>>549163354
I'm good, thirdie.
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>>549163193
>look guys im 2 mod t11 viable!
only thing worse than an hc player is an hc player that thinks they are good at the game
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>>549163193
>If block was not HC viable
What even is your character just a regular armor life guy?
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>>549163485
Jesus christ every single time I see this screenshot I wonder how they genuinely made it fucking worse in PoE 2, what the fuck???
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>>549163521
everybody has known for almost a year now that poo2 is the brownoid game bro
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No 2h swords? No play. It's a simple concept. Add 2h swords or I won't play your game.
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>>549163645
Keep up those kingsmarch tasks thirdie.
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>>549163691
>no 2 handed swords
>no 2 handed axes
we got the lamest weapons first
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>>549163485
it's so funny how poe2 becomes totally indecipherable basically the moment literally anything starts happening on screen, it's like they specifically designed the maps themselves to make it as hard as possible to see what's going on
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>>549163725
Yup. An ARPG without 2h swords is like a fps without rifles.
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The real question everyone has been wondering is, will cast on ailment pop you into human form?
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>>549163725
still can't believe they put fucking maces and staves in first. the mind boggles
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>>549163837
yep, like trans without penis.
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>>549163993
The mace represents the vision. Slow and meaningful
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why does she need 4 tits?
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>>549164321
for all of my children
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>>549162717
any idea of it's startable ?
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>>549150809
Hollow Palm Monk was fun as fuck. It received an endgame nerf this league, but you can still play it during the campaign and then swap to a decent quarterstaff later. Shattering Palm was the best but phys and lightning builds are pretty good too.
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>>549163554
I'm running t16.5. I don't claim to be a good player, but then again, I'm Ben_ compared to the dumbass who told me that block is not HC viable. I hope for your sake you're not him.
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>>549163258
Shhh
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>>549164452
I went ssf stormweaver spark last league and it went ok
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>>549164612
that nigga augustus was a blond brother
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>>549164751
cheers
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>>549164576
>block
If you're playing a traditional armor character i don't see block helping much. But you haven't told us what kinda build you're playing yet.
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>>549158586
Heavily depends on the things we don't know about it yet. If either the Oracle tree or the modular elemental node on Shaman are decent for Wolf, I might go with one of them. Otherwise it's just fucking Titan because Hulking Form is dumb.
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Phrecia was much better than Keepers
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got fired from my job, thinking its poo time
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If you want meaningful combat go play roguelikes
ARPGs are for CoolBuild ZoomBoom
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considering the fact that the early access had up to 90% off in thirdie shitholes, poo2 is the browner game
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>>549165938
>If you're playing a traditional armor character i don't see block helping much
Are you a POE2-only player or something?
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Here's hoping new top left tree or the Oracle tree has Spiritual Aid, so wolf gang build isn't dead on arrival.
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>>549166067
its not the same kind of fun with existential dread loomin in the back of head while playing. you will probably end up playing less now.
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Am I the only one who likes that they lowered Monster Density in Endgame?

I personally feel PoE2 is a perfect game, as far as any game can be. My only complaint was that there are too many monsters.

I like that you learn how to interact with each monster during the campaign, but dislike how they lose their identity in the endgame as you face amorphous blob after amorphous blob. It leads to a "clear screen or die"-situation that doesn't offer much build versatility. I often tend to lose interest somewhere in the endgame due to this. And so I am feeling hopeful about this new change.

What do you think?
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>>549166067
That's pretty based
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>>549166547
dont copy paste reddit comments you retard
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>>549166067
Fired for?
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so is Armor straight-up better than ES now that ES got nerfed on the tree?
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>>549166067
Hi Zaccie
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>>549166979
Only if you stack it
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>>549162898
no we got the same free weekend shitter rewards again, im fucking pissed off about it too i want my carrot on a stick 40/40 challenges for cosmetics for poe2
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>>549166547
nah its the smart thing to do. I will always have poe 1 for zoomer slop. no reason to shoehorn that shit into poe 2. I want to get rewarded for playing slow ass melee builds.
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I like Path of Exile 2.
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>>549167413
Drop your pants and give me 20 dollars
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>>549167413
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haven't played since 0.1 how is invoker?
Never played it even though It looked pretty cool and I don't want to cuck out and just play deadeye agani
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so poo general is basically just sunk cost browns crying because they can't afford/run poe2, ye?
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>>549166979
>is Armor straight-up better than ES
No the opposite with the pack size nerf we're just playing a max hit game ES characters are actually immortal now
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>>549162612
Totems are doa
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>>549152427
>poo2 players are such fucking troglodytes that Empyrian seems reasonable in comparison
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>>549167413
death sentence
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>>549167413
yh same no matter how much subhuman jeets seethe about it
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>>549164612
blonde jealousy is still alive and strong
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How much of your time do you think 0.4 is going to be deserving of?
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>>549168503
0 but I'll play for minimum two weeks, maybe a total of 150 hours
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>>549167413
Prove it. Post hours
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isn't this insanely strong? as far as i'm aware there isn't another mod that gives enemies take MORE damage, wouldn't that be multiplicative with things like shock and wither, and other sources of 'enemies take increased damage'?
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>invoker got nerfed
chinstrap fucking retard
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>>549168627
I believe it would be added into the same bracket as shock. Yes its a more multiplier but its 20%+20%(shock) and not 20%*20%(shock)
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>>549168580
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>>549168704
How bad is it. I thought it was just hollow palm
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>>549152427
Reduced pack size is probably a nerf to armor and evasion. If the game is moving more toward tougher monsters that are fewer in number, that sort of environment is theoretically better for energy shield.
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poe2 WON
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poe2 is fun to play
poe1 isn't fun to play till you invest like 2 mirrors
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both poe1 and poe2 are fun to play
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>>549168503
same as every other league.
beat all bosses on titan, try out new class in campaign and make a meme build or two.
so probably like 150 hours.
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>>549169046
Truth avalanche.

>>549169119
The enlightened truth.
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>>549169135
>titan
but why, its slow as shit
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>>549168959
they didnt increase mob damage though? armor already takes 0 damage from anything in maps even something like triple damage + pen.
es builds running similar maps are going to get even more shredded because mobs are going to survive more.
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How do I make Smith of Kitava Detonate Dead work with the new and improved fire spell on melee hit?
I'm thinking I'll need some minions to detonate with it in order to be able to start any sort of chain
Is there a good way to convert the physical portion of DD into fire for ignites, or am I better off just trying to scale the physical portion directly?
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>>549166979
Wait, we got the tree already?
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>>549168895
Post your steam profile
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>>549169403
ill post dn to your forehead
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>>549169380
Don't engage with browns, as soon as you can tell they are illiterate or have some learning disability when presented with clear information just call them brown.
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is 0.4 done for
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i will be playing Deadeye Werewolf for true MOVESPEEDMAXXING
damage doesnt matter
defenses dont matter
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>>549169295
yeah and it also gets a buff every league as opposed to bowcucks which just take the nerfcock.
also i'd rather be slower and never die rather than lose all my maps (and augmented limbs in 0.4)
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>>549169852
Honestly the density change is pretty clever thinking to improve the earning ability of the less speedy screen clearing builds. I believe in Jonathan and Mark. Also don't ask how those deadeyes handled delirium or simulacrums before they had perfect gear :^)
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>>549169834
you think bob5 will show you her pussy if you gift her a lot of divines, fubgun?
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>>549169380
The only issue ES ever had was that mid ES builds could get wrecked by lots of small shitter hits. Now that's no longer an issue what's going to kill them? That 1 mob left isn't going to do shit to them.
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>>549152427
i swear poo2 players on reddit invent new frontiers in retardation every day. kiting builds jesus christ
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>i swear poo2 players on reddit invent new frontiers in retardation every day. kiting builds jesus christ
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>NOOOOOO CCING MOBS IS NOT ALLOWED NOT ALLOWED
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>what do you mean i have to kite the monstermans?!
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fubgun more like fagbum lmao
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yes they're making the game worse but have you considered that this is actually good for my build that is designed to not kill mobs for some reason
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ruetoo more like chingchong lmao
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fubgun more like fubcel
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>>549170787
if your build is not killing mobs every second you should not be playing the game.
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Just did an end of league gamba before poe2 start
managed to turn 5 house or mirrors into 30
3000 divines
what to do with funny money
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>>549170864
true
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>>549170890
who cares about poo1 bing bing wahoos
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>>549157813
Don't forget Chris is now trying to poach them and any other potential talent in the country. At some point one of the key talent will retire and the game will just stop because they can't create new content anymore.
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https://www.twitch.tv/onemanaleft/clip/GloriousEphemeralBearSpicyBoy-0yblwfm-tEMVZxqe?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
this guy wished he had a kiting build
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>>549168007
I didn't realize the gravity of the situation until you put it so eloquently...
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>>549170890
sell them on d2jsp and buy yourself a big mac or whatever
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you are going to play disengage+resonance to generate your charges for spell totems
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https://www.twitch.tv/onemanaleft/clip/PreciousPoliteVelociraptorRlyTho-v7fRy5RNlNSY_kzf

one of the greatest rapes in the history of rapes, maybe ever
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>>549171062
I'm sorry but wtf is a kiting build...
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You're all freaking out about kiting builds but if the game made sense that's how DOT builds would function
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>>549171062
>>549171182
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>>549171182
its only a game why you heff to be mad
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>>549171182
>ANTI KITING BUILD
>YOU KITE RIGHT INTO THE BOSS ABILITY
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>>549171182
why wasnt he kiting it?
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>>549171182
she said to look out for the slam...
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where is my orb walking build
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any good kiting builds for 0.4?
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>>549171260
>apply dot
>run away until the mob dies
sounds like a blast
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>>549171528
no playing kiting builds!
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>>549171509
if you asked this question on reddit you would get people unironically answering you
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>poowunners don't understand the concept of kiting
LOL
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>>549171260
>apply dot
>stand afk
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>>549171528
>sounds like a blast
Applying DOTs to several packs of mobs then run away until they die is how that playstyle is supposed to be but since you modern PoE players bitched and moaned until you got the easiest baby game known to man you can't handle mobs existing for more than 0.5 seconds
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>>549171921
>actually it's supposed to be retarded and boring
okay well im glad its not?
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I'm sorry but what the hell is a dot build?
You apply a dot to a monster and... you just have to wait until it dies?
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best ascendancy for kite builds surely must be the smith of kitava
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is flicker strike in poo2 as much of a meme as in poo1 or is it actually a viable leaguestart?
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>>549168007
many are saying this
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>>549172142
Flicker in poo1 is completely legit though? Anyway flicker in poo1 is much better than in poo2 where it is more a generator-spender build
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>>549171182
Look Out For The Slam
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>>549172104
>You apply a dot to a monster and... you just have to wait until it dies?
Ideally you would run through the map applying DOTs to every pack having a endless chain of dying mobs trailing behind you trying to kill you
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>>549172104
well in poe1 it's when you attack really fast to apply lots of poisons and do damage quickly. i guess poe2 players are more interested in drooling on their keyboard while their single poison slowly ticks down
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>>549169119
newfaggot 2rist
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>>549172142
flicker in poe2 is borderline unplayable, if the gem wasn't called flicker strike nobody would even try to make it work
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why are most skills in act 1 worse than Mace Strike with a white mace equipped? why is equipping Contagion in act 1 optimal for the vast majority of classes?
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>>549172764
I unironically look like that hihi
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>>549172764
why is rolling magma + holy flame totem + flame wall optimal of act 1 in poowun
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>>549172764
Brown retard.

Reminder that they will never backport any engine improvements to poo1, it is dead and forgotten. I await your cope when the next league is worse and has less players.
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>>549172258
starting flicker feels like shit in poo1, retards like magefist will try to tell you "dude just play slayer and get oro sacrifice!" and then not include their 500 deaths pre-T16s in the video
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>>549172871
>why is using three skills better than the default attack
this is a legitimate question for poo2 players
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>>549172142
the good news is that almost every single Palm skill has a teleport function built in to the skill gem, so any quarterstaff skill can be flicker! and quarterstaff skills are good
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>>549173004
It's terminus est these days buddy
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>>549172331
>well in poe1 it's when you attack really fast to apply lots of poisons
But actually 99.9% of the time it just plays out in the way that if a map mob smells a single poison stack he instantly explodes it all plays out the same mechanically for every PoE build since your numbers are beyond fucked there's no satisfaction to be had it's all just instantly evaporating several screens of mobs at a time pretty much from early campaign to endgame
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KNEEL BEFORE YOUR KING
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Please... just one fun build...
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>>549173194
weirdly melty coded post
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>>549173089
this is lies, the "teleport" is more like a short-ranged dash. Lightning warp CoC is more akin to poe1 flicker
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>>549173239
We already told you, any Hollow Palm Monk build.
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>>549172139
Nah, Chronomancer
Slowed enemies and Time Stop means they can almost never get close and if they do you just teleport to where you were
6 of your 8 ascendancy points just to avoid enemies
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>>549171182
Fix your game GGG
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>found the 200div foulborn unnatural instinct on SSF
kek, this shit is so busted, basically 20 free skill points
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BUFF MINIONS
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>>549173239
try a kiting build
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>no endgame changes
more endless atlas, god help me.
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I have some full on frontal nudity maven ai slop I would love to post but I dont want to get banned. Its really beatiful art. What are my options here? Its poe related at the end of the day.
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>>549173687
use catbox link
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>>549173687
if you don't already know your "art" is guaranteed to be absolute fucking slop
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so this is pretty much confirmed to be 0.20 2.0 at this point yes?
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>>549173756
its an option but I feel like mods will ban me anyway. out of spite to be funny.
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best skill for kiting build?
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We are SO fucking back, Cyclonechads. It's Legion league 2.0.
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>JESUS FUCK POE2 START SUCKS ALMOST NOTHING IS VIABLE
>goes back to running rolling magma firewall into arma/crema for literally 9-12 leagues straight because everything else sucks and is undertuned
wow
no way the devs has been pulling the same shit for years and are incapable of fixing early game?
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>>549174117
something with build-in movement
escape shot and disengage are good
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>>549174237
Call them brown and move on, they're going to be sending kingsmarch shipments and running maps until they die lol.
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>>549174223
>cyclone
anon... cyclone requires swords.
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>>549174237
>I HAVE to play the most overpowered meta slave shit!!
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>>549174237
erm running rolling magma firewall into armageddon brand cremation 15 leagues in a row is good because its poe 1 hence why its automatically good ok?
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>>549174223
there's no way they manage to unfuck this skill adequately enough to be usable this league, it felt like total ass
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>>549174345
aint no way poo2tards are pretending maps are bad now
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>>549174601
mapwide clear isnt good enough for you? its also faster now
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I played molten blast last league, it was clunky as shit but it was my very own shit
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>>549174223
kek this image is meant to be ironic, right?

...right?
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>Brown can't pick up context clues and IMMEDIATELY exposes his brown intellect


pottery.
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>>549174601
The gameplay previews for 0.4 they showed included a one button whirling assault monk build that was covering most of the screen with the aoe, if you can get enough move speed to zoom while one shotting stuff it could be fun
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>>549171182
>>549171062
You're missing the one where he facetanks Crowbell and keeps getting stunned out of his attack animation and Alkaizer keeps saying, dodge then attack, dodge first then attack
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>>549174384
How many T5 bosses have you killed? Uber Arbiters?
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I am going to use the lack of endgame to learn campaign progresion in hc. Nothing you can do about that.
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>omg global defences on PF insane
Did people miss the part where everyone is attribute starved on this game and T1 rolls go up to 33?
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>>549175336
https://www.twitch.tv/onemanaleft/clip/RelentlessEncouragingLocustFunRun-oC0VMT0WRecbzBJz?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
He's one of the best build makers in PoE, don't diss him like that
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>>549175496
Use a rune ffs
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>>549175617
POOWUNNERS?????
EXPLAIN YOURSELVES RIGHT NOW
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>10 new uniques
its over
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>>549175417
The progression is
>coast through everything then die to monke
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>>549175617
Chinese water torture: the game
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I want to take a moment and thank Jonathan for creating Kingsmarch to trap the ugly brown people in the bad game. Please keep up with your dailies, they will bring meaning to your lives.
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>>549176097
but you can skip monkey and do him later just like you do with the retarded goat boss in act6 and that weird water faggot in act8.
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>>549175617
some people are just better suited to out-of-game achievements haha
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>>549176241
>goat boss in act6 and that weird water faggot in act8.
no way people are this shit at the game(s)
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>>549160021
Is this why the performance is an unsalvageable mess?
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>>549176116
>GGG: we want this game to give players a variety of differently-shaped pegs and holes to play with
>poe players: WHY DO THE SQUARE PEGS NOT GO IN THE ROUND HOLES? WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE ALL THE HOLES SQUARE?
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>>549176378
>no way people are this shit at the game(s)
it's what poowun hardcucks have been doing for almost 9 years at this point
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>spell totem requires 3 charges

What the FUCk were they thinking!?!?!
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>>549176692
retard
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>>549176208
how many days in a row have you been meltying about kingsmarch and brownoids now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQly3vh_DY

our queen is practicing
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>>549176692
"we put in a bunch of different ways to gain charges, no way the players are so autistically committed to stacking nothing but DPS that they will just ignore them".
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>>549176692
Builder (build up semen in my prostate)
Spender (empty it into your mouth)
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>>549176850
Every day until the league starts and I get to play a fun game again. Brownoids started it by engaging with me on my internet.
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>>549176858
hot! what does she smell like?
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>>549176692
You WILL play comboslop
You WILL NOT play comfy spell totems
It is MY GAME and it has to be DIFFERENT
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>>549177000
>dmt
I hate that fucking faggot, he doesn't know shit, he's bad at the game, he can't make builds, and he's generally an annoying cunt. no idea why the community propped up this literal tourist who wasn't even popular enough to make a living streaming his main game
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>>549177000
>Ghazzy is the most likeable of the bunch
grim
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>>549177139
>>549177160
fubgun is carrying ghazzy dmt raxx
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>>549177139
blame assmongoloid
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>>549177139
Unironically a bigger fag than talkativetri somehow. I hate faggot voices so much bros.
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>>549177238
asmon doesnt play poe2
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>>549177000
>Gemeinsam streamen
?????
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>>549177312
lassen bruder streamen schnitzel `?
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>>549177000
disgusting
I miss the old gang
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IM STARTING druid
I WILL water my plants
THEY WILL suck hard and wont kill shit
and I DONT CARE
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>>549177139
poe2 players are absolutely desperate for a vaguely normal eceleb to worship
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For me, it's Mathil.
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>>549177389
ich lieben deutsche land
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>>549177312
the cat getting hit by the door with the cymbals flying is so fucking funny oh my god
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As always

Wait 3,4 days then play s+++ tier
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>>549177442
this doo heading to an early grave because of poo
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>>549171182
he's right doebeit
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>>549177751
I believe he did all this shit while being a 9-5 wageslave.
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>>549177304
he's the one that pulled the rat faced kike out of youtube's rectum
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>>549177891
not really? reddit plastered his videos everywhere, raxx pushed him, ziz did too
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>>549178094
he is sitting there with a literal dildo up his ass. I remember one of his streams a few years back when he talked shit about his family because they were critical of the vax during covid. you cant make this shit up.
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Surely you're not enough of a mazed autist to "practice" league start, are you?
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>>549178094
most masculine poe2 player
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>>549178332
Havoc is
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poesisters...
what can we do to stop the blatant transphobia in this place
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>>549178094
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I'm gonna play druid.
I'm gonna cast the volcano.
I'm gonna walk on the volcano.
I'm gonna roar.
I'm gonna slam.
I'm gonna slam.
I'm gonna roar.
I'm gonna start running.
I'm gonna start running.
I'm gonna cast meteor shower.
I'm gonna start running.
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>>549175416
i killed uber arbiter with crossbow shot...
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im gonna play the onle 2-4 button build
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>>549178685
seems like a lot of effort to do the same amount of damage as a default attack
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>>549178332
I play 1 character per league
I take 3 days to reach maps
I completely skip the early league economy
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>>549178618
Why didn't you save him /poeg/?
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>>549179142
Accelerate
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>>549178618
why is he doing that?
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>>549150741
Vet PoE 1 player here - finally getting into PoE 2. Uh does Mercenary stop being so fucking clunky later on? Just clearing through act 1 right now with permafrost/fragmentation shot. The reload delay is extremely annoying but I like the idea of a crossbow gunner as I LOVED Demon Hunter in D3. Just want to know if it gets less 'clunky' feeling later on.
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>>549178618
/ourguy/ Tri would never
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>>549179350
Nope reload clunkiness was even patched
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>>549179407
Tri encourages you to be a better man, start a family, show love and be open to being loved.
>poeg hates him
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>>549179142
Jews too strong
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>>549179350
was it too hard to look up some endgame merc gameplay on youtube?
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>>549179660
>was it too hard to look up some endgame merc gameplay on youtube?
actually yes it was and I am not even joking
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>>549178094
>>549178618
Our streamers are getting cuter and that is a good thing but PooEgg chuds won't be able to accept that.
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>>549179350
>Uh does [poe2] stop being so fucking clunky later on
no
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>>549176504
That's actually a very good question. Having only one peg per hole is pretty boring. It makes the game too simplistic
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>>549176882
Source for this claim?
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>>549178618
what poe1 does to a mf
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>>549176692
what, you don't want to jump through 10 hoops so you can summon a totem against bosses?
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>>549179764
this one shows an ice skill in endgame, wudijo is well known and played merc xbow a lot so its accurate.
https://youtu.be/xrjFg9E7f-k?si=miP_3BEcQ77NdW9A
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>>549152427
>>549152718
>make shit builds every league because they think good builds are for people with no skill
Thread being copy pasted here constantly, go look at it. See guy saying changes are good, people need to learn defensives and if you can't complete maps while having defensives and using your tool kit you are bad. Openly admits to taking 15 minutes in t15s.
I imagine sooner then later Jonathan will have to pick just how bad he wants his playerbase to be.
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It's kind of funny watching poo1 zealots misrepresent reality and make claims about a game they demonstrably don't play, all while ignoring their own games stagnating population, overloading of gacha mechanics, and dated gameplay and graphics. This will be studied and mocked in the future POE2 only general.
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>>549180160
Don't ever link a wudijo build in here again
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>>549180259
>I imagine sooner then later Jonathan will have to pick just how bad he wants his playerbase to be
Dude, he's already decided. He wants the dadgamers.
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>>549179898
GGG need to take more responsibity for the geometry of physical solids in the spatial realm.

why can't my slow warrior build not ALSO be a fast ranger build? this is so constraining. just make everything really fast and do a billion damage so that everyone is happy.
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>>549180160
that aoe looks fucking miserable for clear
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>>549180669
genius poeg poster thinks that video game characters are physical solids
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i think rangers should get +100% movespeed just for existing, and warriors need more -attack speed and -movespeed downsides attached to their notables
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>>549180883
you're hired
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>>549180883
Jonathan...
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>>549180160
k I was joking
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too many of the poe2 ascendencies are niche memey shit that works only with super edge case builds. ascendencies should have VERY GENERAL mechanics that can strengthen and support a huge variety of skills and builds
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>they're going to come back to us once they're done working on the game they want to improve and makes them a massive success right?

Honestly poo1ers are parasitic.
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When are we getting 2nd patch notes
C'mon rip the bandaid off
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>>549181136
you're fired
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>>549181136
you're seeing the consequences of them trying not to have ascendancies that cater to specific build archetypes while also not wanting to do anything that actually gives you more damage
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>>549181267
>wisps were a poe1 tier league
>rehashing synthesis for 0.4

Someones retarded.
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>>549181136
poe2 ascendencies are more general than poe1 ascendencies doe
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>>549181136
They absolutely shouldn't. In fact they tried to keep PoE 2 ascendancies TOO general and that's why they suck in comparison to 1's.
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>>549181493
>responding in earnest to brown intellect
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>>549181457
>>rehashing synthesis for 0.4
If you think that's what they are doing with Fate of the Vaal, you are that someone
But then again you probably thought they are going to copy abyss 1 to 1 in 0.3 as well
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>>549164321
I don't even know who this chic is people keep talking about. I don't pay attention to lore.
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I was rewatching the ShiggyD interview and uhhh... all of the nerf talk and the person who wanted to remove the most power form players was Mark...........
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ascendancies are not general enough! What do I do with a melee sorceror? everything is spells and shit
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>>549181647
Oh man.

POE2 abyss was fun on every map
POE1 breach was dogshit on every map

WHICH GAME WILL WE SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE? PLACE YOUR BETS NOW
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Hewwo everyone ^.^ I just downloaded Path of Exile 2 because I heard you can be a werewolf!
Do you have any tips for a noobie? xD
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are 2jeets really still seething about poe1 continuing to receive updates
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>>549181267
>straight up saying 1's playerbase has lower standards
lol
lmao
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>>549181920
If they stop blaming poe1 they will have to find another excuse for why poe2 is so fucking awful
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>>549178618
bro at least if you want to be a femboy lose some fucking weight and not be disugsting chubby freak
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>>549181893
>because I heard you can be a werewolf!
>Do you have any tips for a noobie? xD
When is GGG going to make a clown suit mtx for the trans-formations?
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>>549182046
Which is wild since they have such a low playerbase, it's already niche as fuck and it attracted the smelliest brown people? How the fuck do you manage that lol.

POE2 new player count records this league btw.
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>>549181557
GGG genuinely don't want the skill tree to matter as much as items; and they're both right to want that, while at the same time they're going to have to spent multiple leagues trying to absorb the game design consequences, especially now they've also added frictionless trade.
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>>549164321
>why does she need 4 tits?
Don't settle for mediocrity 2 tits is country level 4 tits is world level
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>>549182179
put your phone down lil gupta white people are not this obsessed with brown people
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>>549181759
Basically the only thing Jonny wanted to nerf/remove was MF and that was based
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god i want to fucking suck nizmat's gamer chair fucking dry
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>>549182367
I still don't get the magic find hate. I can understand it feels bad to see some people have it if you don't, but that is a simple problem solved by getting it.
The more you have, the weaker your character is by loss of offensive/defensive potential. That should be a reasonable trade off.
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>>549181759
That's based. Part of the reason why the endgame is bad is it's a little too easy. The difficulty of the mobs going from t1 to t16 wasn't nearly as extreme as in poe 1.
But at some point they need to decide if they want to balance the game for trade, or for ssf. Cause right now it's definitely an ssf balanced game.
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In this house we love Mark
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>>549182701
your character getting weaker is completely irrelevant because the amount of power you can get in the game
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>>549182541
she needs a lil bit more meat on her bones
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>>549182701
If its there, its balanced around it, making it a non-choice
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>>549182701
except you still oneshot everything so it's just an objectively superior statline
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>>549183021
>>549183174
actual question, why was it ok in D2?
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i get more enjoyment from eating taco bell than playing poe2
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>>549183090
>>549183021
So our characters are so powerful that giving up some offensive or defensive value isn't really a choice, while also MF being included in the balancing. So what is the complaint? That people were charging high prices for good MF pieces because dad gamers want to go to the async shop with a to buy list and those pieces cost to much?
Also GGG could make it so MF has less value in lower maps, MF being -90% effective at t1 and -84 at t2 while reaching full use at t15, so that it is most powerful at end progression levels.
But having a chase statline on gear is a good thing.
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>>549182701
it would probably be okay if rarity didn't affect currency drops. Jonathan doesn't seem to have realized how much more psychologically impactful it would be in combination with that change.
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>>549182701
I agree with the other posters but also would add that it contributes to pushing people towards the meta builds since they can afford to drop offensive/defensive with less impact on their performance. And since the economy is a major part of this game its just a feels bad to willingly hamstring yourself, depending on how much you care of course.
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i get more enjoyment from the diarrhea i get from eating taco bell than playing poe 2
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>>549183641
who said it was okay in d2
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>>549183693
The complaint is that it is a mandatory stat if it balanced around it, thats it Similar to move speed on boots, its not really a choice, you either have it or it sucks. MS should be intrinsic to boots, and MF removed and loot increased as if you had MF
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>>549183693
1) the difficulty curve in the game isn't really finished, so ggg are leaving it too easy at endgame because that's less risky. that means you just need ENOUGH defenses and after that the game becomes about movespeed and +rarity, which multiply together.

2) async trade was always going to make getting gear more trivial and so people can almost literally get the exact optimal gear, so they start to think about divs/hr even earlier than in poe1.
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>>549183865
that sucks man hope they are going to make the game better for you to enjoy!
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>>549183641
d2 is like a cavepainting compared to the Last Supper of Poe2.
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>>549183693
the complaint is that it's fucking boring and obnoxious to have a mod that is essentially required for all characters without even really providing that character with anything other than meta-power or whatever you would even want to call it
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I'm going to have a good time in 0.4 and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>549184072
this but unironically
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best builds for t17 containment farming? budget is 200d, i already have MB
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0.4 is going to die
not because of the lack of endgame changes
not because of monster density changes
not because of the league mechanic
but because of how much people dislike the low powerlevel of shapeshifting
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>>549184415
Personally I am looking forward to the reddit meltdown when shapeshifting sucks dick
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>>549183865
feels good to take a huge shit, no homo
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>>549184415
>day 2:
>0.4 is going to die because druid is too powerful and playing it feels mandatory
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>>549184415
Shapeshifting is probably one of the least things I was looking forward to in PoE 2. Not sure what everyone was seeing in it when slams are already so ridiculously slow.
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we hitting 1 milly this weekend
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>>549184596
lol what is this cope do poe2 shills even play poe2 at this point
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>>549184415
>>549184614
is everyone just kinda stupid here, do you guys know how shapeshifting works? It's literally just cosmetic
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The temple will probably be a fucked hellscape when you make it as big as possible i can't wait
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>>549184614
>slams
you can be a fast wolf or a caster dragon too
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Waiting patiently for the 10x playercount of POE1 on the 12th.

B-b-b-but it's a free weekend! So it's finally competing without the disadvantage of being paid?
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>>549184669
in reality we are not hitting 0.1 numbers
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wish they had fleshed out 3.27 a smidge more instead of pretending it took an additional 2 months just to release druid
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>>549184676
omg did you already play druid??
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>>549184596
they did say it was very powerful in the ziggy interview
the problem is i simply just dont trust them
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>>549184669
The only time it'll happen again is 1.0
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I'm thinking bear slams
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while you meta chasing apes are playing druid I'll be bashing karui heads in with my quarterstaff
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>>549184787
across all platforms 1 milly is doable.
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>>549184732
it's literally not
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>>549184839
They also said they were afraid Huntress would be too powerful
And then everything but LS sucked ass
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>Simon says you need to cast the spell from here!!!
Jesus Christ, how annoying is it going to be?
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>>549184669
Dad gamers aren't coming back before 1.0
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Brown people ain't quitting kingsmarch boats and map device for 0.4. Way too far gone.
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>>549184970
i supposed when you're willing to imagine whatever numbers you want the playercount could be anything
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>>549184839
I think it's both going to be powerful and easy to get into because GGG won't want a repeat of huntress. they buff LS by 20% they will be willing to launch druid with OP skills on purpose to be safe.
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>>549185003
Amazon on release crushed the game you could play any decent attack skill with any weapon
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>>549185128
poo 1 couldnt be above 200k LMAO
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>>549185137
just like they were willing to let kinetic rain be op for one league
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>>549184847
>again
never happened
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i rerolled into kinetic fusillade and wow it feels SHIT
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Ask about POE1
>a deafening silence
Ask about POE2
>happy to share some info ;-)
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>>549185229
actually across all platforms it had 7 million players
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>>549184970
>across all platforms 1 milly is doable.
It's such a retarded statement that it needs to be a falseflag attempt
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>>549185010
jonathan has evolved to the highest and most advanced level of vidya development, the art of spending tons of time developing shit no one wants
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>>549185284
why are they using racist 4chan frogs?
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Some anon here suggested Wyvern with gemlinger start, is he here?
Whats your build concept? I assume flying flamebreath to melt bosses, but how do you clear map?
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>>549185542
And we all will thank him
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>>549185246
Those are only half the numbers if that, obviously with the stand alone client we have easily hit 1.5m if not more.
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>>549185542
>jonathan has evolved to the highest and most advanced level of vidya development, the art of spending tons of time developing shit no one wants
He sees himself as a visionary that's misunderstood in modern times, but all ARPGs will be based on his ideas in the future.
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Thank you Jonathan for coding Path of Exile engine from scratch by hand alone. You are a god despite what the brown turds say about you.
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Please tell me that they have removed going through the campaign two times
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>>549185246
wait a sec why does poe 2 have the same numbers 4 months into the league as poe 1 1 month into the league
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>>549185885
They have. There's short placeholder acts now.
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>>549185246
what an incredibly comprehensive graph lmao
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>>549185885
they did but it's not any shorter
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>>549186086
Brainlet
Interlude acts are short as fuck
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How are you guys looking at the druid ascendancies are not coming out with the very obvious conclusion that they are very good
>free rage cap
>infinite elemental damage reduction
>double rune effect
>120 spirit for minion builds
or
>immortality from small/medium hits with decent regen
>double burst damage for dedicated bossers
>(likely) huge crit boost
>whatever the extra oracle nodes are
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>>549185935
poe1 has twice that number doe?
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>>549185885
They added act 4 and 3 new mini acts instead of the second playthrough
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>>549186168
Is it fast though
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>>549186168
what the fuck are you talking about nigger
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>>549186086
You're gonna wish full campaign is gonna be as short as it is now.
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>>549185885
all characters also have a sprint ability, the game no longer feels slow.
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>>549186168
>how are you brown people so dumb
heh, let me tell you
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>>549186297
it's going to be the same length.
4 acts + 3 half-act-length interludes.
5 acts + 1 half-length sixth act
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>>549186168
>120 spirit for minion builds
would've been fun if that ghazzy faggot didn't go and tell GGG about lingering
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>>549181452
>you're seeing the consequences of them trying not to have ascendancies that cater to specific build archetypes while also not wanting to do anything that actually gives you more damage
which is why blood mage is gonna be the only caster ascendancy for the third league in a row since it does just give a fuckton of damage to any build with massive base crit and critical damage bonuses
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>>549186238
at its peak yes
on average no
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>>549186152
retard
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Are the wolf summons permanent until they die, or just temporary things that disappear?
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>complete poe 2 campaign will be 25+ hours
>leagues will be shortened to 2 month intervals.
150 hours a year playing the campaign. How do you feel about this?
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>>549186473
poe1 is at twice poe2's numbers at all points in both games' daily counts right now. just wait a week before you do this retard
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>>549186562
how should i feel about 150 hours a year playing the game? you tell me
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>>549186487
We don't know yet.
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>>549186562
The campaign in POE2 is good, it's not like the boring tedium of POE1 bro. You actually get to play a game while you level not just afk until Malachai stops RPing. So I guess I feel great about it.
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>>549186471
that's a side-effect of how everyone just designs builds for pefect gear in trade-league.
crit will always be king when you can buy mods as much of it as you want. maybe GGG will feel they have to do something about it eventually but its not the fault of some kind of mistaken design decision.
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>>549182701
if getting 100 rarity upgrades exalted orbs into divine orbs its not actually optional, you just have to run it on every character, limiting build variety to those who can run it
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>Mark talking about how the playerbase fundamentally misunderstands MF and the majority of videos from youtubers are flat out wrong about how it works
>does not elaborate further
fucking hell
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>>549186562
I don't play poe1 any more so it's not an issue for me.
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>>549186661
>>549186691
Actually the game doesn't start until you have a level 100 character, fully completed atlas, 40/40, 100M DPS and 100K EHP, 10 mirrors in the stash and BiS gear!
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>>549186818
i feel like hes slowly getting jonnified
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>>549186737
blood mage was still one of the most played classes even in SSF BECAUSE it gives BASE crit independent of gear and critical damage bonus based off Life which is easy to get on every piece of gear.
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>>549186562
>>complete poe 2 campaign will be 25+ hours
It's 5 acts, not 15
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>>549186996
>It's 5 acts
he doesn't know...
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>>549186818
jonathan must be rubbing off on him
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Reminder to check on your town you smelly fucking brownoids.
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>>549187151
why? the league has been over for weeks
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>fubgun and ghazzy talking about how good diablo 3 is
earnestly why is it ok to glaze a game where you press a bunch of buttons per build but its not ok to do so in Path of Exile 2?
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>>549186818
they've said previously that it has a diminishing return built in, so that the benefit starts to fall off hard above (iirc) 100%, and that it does almost literally nothing above (again vague memory) 600%. note that what matters is the TOTAL rarity, including from juicing the map.

what Mark means is that the players haven't absorbed that change into their behavior. it's clearly designed to be okay to have some of but pointless to optimize around, but players are just continuing to behave like its mandatory.

that's the problem with having the mechanic on gear: you can't compare the loot you get with the loot you WOULD have gotten if you didn't use it, so players are imagining losing out on untold wealth if they don't stack as much as possible.
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>>549186562
>complete poe 2 campaign will be 25+ hours
Not like I'm going to use 25 hours but it's not like i care about how long the campaign is. It's all part of the game and i enjoy every bit of it.
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>>549187151
>dark pattern mechanic
no thanks
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>>549187267
I know, and yet they're on, stuck in their loops forever. White's have always subjugated the browns in this way.
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>>549187294
More button presses = higher IQ. No one will ever respect 1 button poe builds. Nothing wrong with being a mouth breathing retard, but don't take pride in it like you have accomplished anything.
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>>549187301
people are well aware of breakpoints, which is why the change to reduce the affix range is even dumber
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>>549187151
League is dead
Move on
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>>549187387
>White's
nazi guy holding up three fingers meme
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there wont be tree or new items datamining until predownload right?
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>original d3 tourists who came into poe talking about how good diablo 3 is
Wow, the picture is finally getting clear
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgsWeZ3cYMM

It's up, a good player in HC POE2 made this.
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>>549186953
oh yeah. but most ascendencies have at least some source of More damage. crit (especially high base crit) has fewer diminishing returns and is completely simple and generalist. meanwhile Warriors are stacking Ancestral Boost with Aftershocks and wondering if Ignite is going to be good this league etc.
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>>549187610
didn't poe2db have the new tree like a day beforehand last league?
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>>549187778
synthesis build your own vaal temple kind of slop
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>>549187657
the only question now, exoile, is whether or not you're fewlish enough to take em down
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>>549187778
Incursion+Synthesis
Double corrupts are back and you can build your own Foulborn
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>>549187546
>nazi guy
>three fingers
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>>549187472
people don't know exactly what the breakpoints are and they don't have to weigh DPS/defence meaningfully against rarity because they can just buy gear that has both.

I get that you want to pretend the playerbase is making rational cost-benefit economic decisions but by the time we're worrying about rarity, we are just running around one-shotting monsters anyway. there is no risk-reward to the game at that point and needing to trade 1-2 mods per item doesn't add it.
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damn we're nearing 200c:1d in keepers
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>>549188068
What exactly are you arguing for here?
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>>549188260
atziri should have 6 tits instead
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>>549188219
>league turbo dies as poe2 approaches
>heh I'm just not going to play it
Enjoy ssf with no one left online in poo1!
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The racist 4chan frog has a question:
Which druid form would you choose when it's time to poop in the woods?
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>bored of keepers
>minimal interest in 0.4
I need to find another game
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>>549188438
why are you spazzing out at me
go outside or something
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>>549187301
it's because the mechanic is completely obscure and you have to read GGG interviews to even know about the 100% "breakpoint" in the first place. if they were serious about this they'd just cap the stat at 150 and have MF beyond 150 be a dead stat and display that in the UI but they aren't they just enjoy whining about the player base not understanding their black box algorithm in interviews I guess.
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>>549188513
genshin impact might be more of your game
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>>549188260
I'm agreeing with Mark that the playerbase is made up of high-iq brainlets.
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>>549187301
>so players are imagining losing out on untold wealth if they don't stack as much as possible.
So PoETwoTrannies are just mentally ill and upset about imagined events?
80% of the player base plays trade and just buys their gear anyways they are not upset that they don't know the loot they could've got but the cost of the gear.
Also pootooers should quit indulging in this misogynistic culture of "loot" they are entitled to its all a cheap white man dog whistle.
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>>549188443
Anyone who doesn't say dragon is retarded, the other two have fur your poop will stick to.
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>>549188513
wuthering waves is getting a bit update soon
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>>549188443
dragon
and just take off and shit in the sky
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>>549188513
This two month rotation thing they're doing is going to lead to a lot of people burning out and sticking with only one of the two games or just dropping both entirely.
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>>549188669
A small bit update doesn't sound that exciting.
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>>549188561
Worse thing about this image is Pohx having the fewest viewers despite all the effort he puts into his guide and how many "people" (dad gamers) acknowledge using it.
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>>549188530
>to even know about the 100% "breakpoint"
I didn't use the word breakpoint. it was pretty apparent from how they talked about it that its a complicated curve.

of course, if Mark says "100%" a bunch of rarity-autists hear "you can have up to this much at full efficiency" when he was probably just ballparking numbers.

the solution to the whole problem would be to chill the fuck out and play the game, but that won't happen so GGG keep having to revisit it.
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>>549188443
bear because big and stinky. girls love that
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>>549188797
sorry that was a typoe i meant a bite update
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im addicted to gooning
builds for this feel?
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>>549188640
>80% of the player base plays trade and just buys their gear anyways
that's why, as I said upthread, the issue has come to head in poe2 largely because here rarity now affects currency drops, the thing people start using as the goal once their gear can no longer meaningfully improve.
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>>549188827
the solution is not having a stat that says "300% increased item rarity" in your character page because what sane person wouldn't try to juice that as high as it goes? the name is misleading, the stat's implementation is misleading, and they've been complaining about player behavior for five years instead of just fixing the way the stat is communicated to solve the problem permanently. this is a straightforward software problem and you're pretending it's a character flaw of the player base.
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I'm looking forward to when they completely remove MF, seems like it's soon
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>>549188561
>fubgun
>still butthurt over ggg prioritizing 2
>doomed to fail

>darthmicrotransaction
>will literally do anything for the views
>originally started from diablo immortal

>raxxanterax
>chose to be yet another poe person over being a big diablo guy
>unironic retard

>ghazzytv
>permanently mindbroken by ggg's vision
>embeds his stream to get views

>pohx
>playing the same build for more than 10 years
>cant afford to get a haircut
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>>549189013
>sane person
you could argue that sane people aren't playing games for imaginary money after the gameplay becomes reduceable to "run around holding one button". GGG have chosen to make us their business however.
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>we must reinvent the wheel (atlas)
two years from now it'll be poe1 atlas in poo2
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>>549188778
don't think so
they make 1/2 week long poe1 leagues
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>>549189223
The truth is more simple
They don't want poe1 atlas because it ultimately failed
Otherwise it would have been in poo2 from the start
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>>549188561
darthmicrotransaction and raxxtanterax are charisma black holes and I don't understand how anyone can watch anything they do, also they're trash at the game
Fubgun, Ghazzy, and Pohx all have their niches in the PoE community
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>>549189245
Honestly 3.28 if they announce .5 3 or 4 weeks in ill be ready to admit that PoE 1 is much further along maintenance mode road then I thought.
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>>549189124
Hard dropped fubgun and lance after their POE2 melties, giant fags.
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>>549188561
>>549188802
Twitch viewercount is just bots.
Especially if you see people with their entire screen clear with 0 ads of any type, it's just bot viewership to bait advertisers.
Even the most famous streamers have their advertisers paying bots for them to give them plausible deniability.
The major twitch streamers all have the exact same "talent" company.
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>>549189223
>two years from now it'll be poe1 atlas in poo2
Big mistake never pander to autists who get one of their episodes if they can't run strand 900 times in a row
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>>549189223
more like 4 months from now
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>>549189595
no one is forcing anyone to run strand 900 times
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>>549189442
Oh I know its botted to hell and back. I used to stream WoW pvp at glad 3s/5s and hero rbgs with a delay so friends could come in and watch between their own ques and I never had more then 10 viewers but had dozens of bot offers. I imagine it's the same for everyone.
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>>549189729
>no one is forcing anyone to run strand 900 times
No one is forcing you to play the game but if you do you should probably be willing to accept change
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>>549189880
Yeah that's what I'm asking for dumbass, a change from endless atlas.
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aint no way 2jeets are pretending their endgame is good now
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>>549189880
>you should probably be willing to accept change
>rightwingdeathsquadlarry accepted change
>tyty accepted change
>mathil accepted change
Post nose.
But in all seriousness yeah I dont like all the changes so I withhold my wallet. If I dont enjoy it ill quit. If I do ill get the wallet and support. But I do hope they expand and make poe 2 atlas good because kts garbage in comparison.
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I don't get it, I thought 3.27 was so undercooked because they spent all their effort on 0.4, but that's also just a glorified balance patch.
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>>549189995
No you don't want a change what you want is a fucking carbon copy of your retarded autistic hugbox which you've already played for thousands of hours
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>>549190379
3.28 and 0.5 will be different you will see chud
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>0.3.0
>not hyped at all after trailer, really wanted druid
>try it anyway
>Ed+cont lich
>its a blast because crafting is great
>craft all my gear on my own like a big boy
>close all endgame content game can offer
>Super happy and leaving with positive emotions

>0.4.0 announcement
>"we removed homo orb"
>dont talk about anything they added in return
>league is literally casino gamble for late game builds
>will take me lot more time to get endgame gear on my own now

FUCKING IDIOTS. I LIKED YOUR GAME, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO SPIT IN MY FACE LIKE THAT
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>>549190347
JANK AS FUCK
looks absolutely terrible
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>>549190387
>uhm no you dont want that
you ok lil bro?
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The idea that they are working on these things and just barely getting them out the door because they have no more time is funny, they are likely working on leagues that will come out a year from now. Magic the Gathering sets are finalized basically two years before they come out and that's just text on cards. Many of the Druid animations were finished in 2023.
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>>549190347
its kinda funny how even small local "absolute cinema" meme from /tv/ grown international on interwebs
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>>549190513
Why the fuck did they remove the homo orb. It made my SSF character a lot more enjoyable to build
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POE1 can survive a few more bad leagues, don't even worry about it bros.
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>>549190379
it probably was a pain in the ass to get the druid forms working and it is much more than a balance patch because the passive tree is getting some massive changes
>>549190513
>homo gets removed
>fags start complaning
typical
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>>549190719
Cut into rmters profits.
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>>549190719
They want us to spend 1 more week getting to endgame because they didnt change it at all.
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>>549190719
stop asking dangerous questions and just enjoy the game for what it is.
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Is there anything fun coming with PoE 2? I read trough the patch notes, and everything is just nerfed into the ground, and the few things that got buffs are inconsequential or lead by a stealth nerf.
>we massively reduced drop rates of lineage support gems
>oh btw a few of them got buffs
Also, my favourite line of the patch notes
>Chain I Support no longer grants Supported Skills Chain 100% more times. Now grants Supported Skills deal 30% less Damage with Hits (previously 50%).
Also a few nerfs for lightning damage, but nothing really got brought up a notch. So now everything will still be lightning based, even more so with the lifestacking caster nerfs, but slightly worse.
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>Maps no longer scale pack size as you increase in tier, they instead increase non-unique monster Effectiveness. Effectiveness grants monsters increased life, increased experience granted and increased quantity of items dropped.

I can't wait for people to get to t10s+ and realize that rare mobs have more health than pinnacle bosses.

Archnem 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>549190719
>>549190806
When you take a brown persons welfare away they tend to get angry.
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>>549190719
YOU WILL NOT GET MODS ON YOUR ITEMS ILLEGALLY
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>>549190769
every poo1 league is now poo2 waiting room LMAO
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>>549189376
Yeah. The rmt, the minion and the RF niches.
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>>549190719
Ideally getting gear should take some time with homo orbs it was basically free that's some boring shit
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>>549190935
>mfw abyss rares with 200% effectiveness
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>>549191152
>should we make this rarer or remove it completely?
>lol remove it so we can readd its function later, they'll thank us for it
many such cases!
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>>549191223
holy fuck and imagine this with the aids abyss mods on them, they will be so fucking annoying
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>>549191131
the trans niche is open for you to grab still
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>>549190347
I wonder how long people will be able to pretend this is actually fun to play as
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>>549190935
it should buff the monster damage too to make them gigarapey
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>>549190935
>Archnem 2: Electric Boogaloo
Add open world metamorph monsters. Arch new mods. Increased effectiveness.
I want to see meaningful 96% action speed vs 480% chadmonster combat.
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>>549190935
>Effectiveness doesn't even take the 40% health buff into account
>Monsters are going to have like 2-3x the health
Can you feel it? The shitstorm is brewing.
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>>549190935
Wait this didn't affect rares right? Would be kino if it did though
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>>549191371
Sorry, I already filled the nazi niche. Don't want to spread myself too thin.
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>>549191534
I can feel it
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>>549191535
It doesn't affect unique monsters. Rares get the buff. I think rares didn't get the baseline 40% health increase, but effectiveness seems to affect them.

Quinn is going to have to find a new game to stream.
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>>549190935
The vision!
Yes.... YES I CAN SEEEEE
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>>549191251
>browns trying to denigrate poe2 by comparing it to poe1 mechanics

Absolutely Freudian.
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>>549191672
nah he'll be fine
>Physical Damage Reduction from Armour can no longer cause a hit to deal 0 damage. This is mostly targeted at preventing cases where multi-hitting player skills could deal 0 damage to armoured monsters at very low levels. In these cases, the hit will now deal 1 damage.
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>>549190663
most of the balance changes they do are entirely vibe-based, they emergency buffed temper weapon in a completely pointless way because Quinn got mad about it. it's actually kind of insane to me how much stuff GGG does last-second for a company of its size, it's really what sets them apart from other studios for better and for worse.
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>>549191672
That's cool this 0 effort to leapfrog to 15s shit was terrible for the game
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>>549191534
>>549191672
Effectiveness IS the 40% health buff, AFAIK. I think map mods add more monster packs still, they don't add effectiveness.

Its still going to be a disaster with the way monster mods multiply health, though.
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>>549191973
Maybe, maybe not. It'll be fixed before the holidays if so because they genuinely care about POE2 more.
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>>549191973
The fucking energy shield mod is going to be fucking unbearable
So glad we don't have to kill rares to complete maps anymore, because these fucks sure won't be dying
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I got a couple of poe2 keys and no one to give them to. Can I sell them on like g2a or kinguin or whatever for like 10 bucks or is it impossible since most sellers there have like 5k sales?
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sub 450k peak
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>you need to kill arbiter in order to upgrade tablets to rare
unironically dad gamers are gonna kill themselves
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>>549191973
>be a disaster
The disaster is going to be Reddit screeching about how they have to farm a few extra hours to oneshot everything.
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>>549192050
If they nerf it i will be making a reddit account to call everyone shitters for crying and ruining my kino 1v1 roadhouse simulator
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>>549191672
they probably should make it affect bosses lol
I'm sure that's on the table.
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>>549191552
lot of overlap there
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>>549192447
Kek, did you watch the remake? Pretty decent.
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>>549192050
>It'll be fixed before the holidays if so
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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archnem wasn't just more life, they had hard damage reduction and block, that's why they were hard
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>>549191935
Hate to agree
I'm pretty decent at 2 so I basically skipped all of yellow maps in 0.3 and it was efficient but kinda lame
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>>549192395
Last time I killed Arbiter on monday after season launch. I'm gonna be rich selling rare tablets.
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>>549192759
You were stupid not to as well, this should be more interesting.
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I remember when Essence Drain Contagion used to get stuck in high yellows, literally damage capped from progressing into reds in Path of Exile 1. Endgame progression used to mean something.
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I'M SO FUCKING POOR I JUST WANT TO FINISH THESE CHALLENGES AGGGGGHHH
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Apropos of nothing, now that I think about it, what the fuck is Marauder gonna do that sets him apart from Warrior?
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>>549192463
nah the bosses get the anti burst thing
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>>549193101
what's your nick? I can give you 150div
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>>549192717
they could roll with multiple overlapping % DR mods making them literally unkillable.
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whats the difference between "Stave"(druid main weapon) and Staff?
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Isn't Deadeye still the strongest class?
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>>549190379
it's not even a patch it's 0.3.5 lmao
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>>549193165
true
fubgun is 100% bluffing that LALR deadeye is just going to feel the same. it was very dependent on pre-stacking rods to be 100% safe with minimal tank.
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>>549193289
That perception arose from an overtuned skill interaction, Lightning Arrow + Lightning Rod, but what set deadeye apart was its movespeed potential that also doubled as a defensive layer. That part has been reigned in the most, now if another skill interaction arises that can be placed onto a generic ascendancy I think the consensus is Pathfinder takes deadeyes spot as the fastest one.
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>>549193289
It was Titan and it still is Titan
Unless you mean something different, perhaps the fastest?
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>YOU NEED TO RUN 5 MAPS TO RUN THE NIGGER FACTORY ONCE

NICE GAME JONATHROON
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>>549193529
people really underestimate how fucking strong titan is
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>>549193289
New meta mirage looks really strong since they changed it to anytime you attack so possibly
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You can tell that the vast majority of the PoE playerbase is shit at the game because they're all repeating that LA deadeye is still going to be king cause GGG did 'nothing to nerf lightning' just parroting Connor and Fubgun.

LA was fucking demolished. Rods nerfed, extra proj removed from bows, tailwind nerfed by 33%. If any ranger ascendancy is going to be meta, it's obviously Pathfinder and that's only if temples don't have extremely damaging rooms with very tanky mobs.
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>>549193620
Its all in the 50% small node buff isn't it? I remember watching one of the titan minion videos and they had obscene amounts es minion power from it
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>>549193620
all three warrior ascendencies are very nice, and also distinct. other classes should hope they get as good an outcome.
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>>549193886
I love the idea of Smith of Kitava, I think it's got potential to be the most interesting one.
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>>549193862
the funny thing to me, is how everyone discusses balance as if all that matters is how much dps you have at level 100 with mirror-tier gear. like apparently getting to that stage isn't what interests people at all.
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>quest gives everyone a golem
>they are worthless without building around them
the auto revive should be default behavior
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>woooahhhh so many cool mechanics in one build, what does it do?
>it triggers spells using CWDT
every single "interesting" build in Path of Exile 1 is just this over and over and over again
https://youtu.be/HiZbHoUiXQs
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>that autistic anon that just keeps shilling pathfinder unprompted
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>>549193880
kinda, you take a LOT of small nodes and it upgrades all of them, not only the stat ones
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>>549193862
Welcome to gaming? I don't know what to tell you, it's been obvious your average person can't justify most things they're doing in a game in their own words for a long time.
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>>549193208
swordbro_streams
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did they just delete poison prolif?
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>>549194057
Yeah my main goal every league is to play a build that is very value efficient, able to do as much content as is possible on the lowest amount of investment. That's only really a problem in Path of Exile 2 because the game is so extremely easy that Deadeye comes online super super fast. Which is why I'm glad that they are finally focusing on buffing the tankiness of mobs.
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>>549194217
shut the fuck up, the tripfag begs with his trip on.
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>>549194057
>like apparently getting to that stage isn't what interests people at all.
Every league various forums are filled with bitching about the price one way or the other of gear in trade. Most people do everything the can to skip the gearing portion and rush to the end.
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>>549194063
>this is what happens when i "do the thingy"
>visual diarrhea
do poo tards really?
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>>549193862
LA Deadeye will still be a decent choice just because of its fundamental design making it scale extremely well. Shock and innate MS and projectiles are all strong and will stay strong without a complete rework.
Also you forgot to mention Constricting Command getting nuked and that was made it really stupid
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>>549194382
Yeah, because they don't know how to gear themselves, they just go for whatever the guide they're following tells them to get.
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>>549194217
dont take handouts. part of the fun is getting your stuff yourself.
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>>549194057
>like apparently getting to that stage isn't what interests people at all.
That's because getting to that stage and being at that stage are exactly the same, nothing changes, there is no goal other than to get better gear
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>>549194217
kek
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>>549190935
if it was archnem it'd also be a multiplicative damage multiplier, thankfully Effectiveness only scales health and XP/loot
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>>549194063
I don't know why Jousis gets so much love, he literally just does this over and over again. Even his One Quack Man is just using Scold's Bridle to self hit yet again for charges on hit. This is why I am actually more excited for the future of Path of Exile 2, there are more systems to interact with. There are so few interactions in Path of Exile 1 that are cleanly two or three things that do well together. It's always some scaling gimmick or autobomber loop. Autobombers aren't even interesting anything.
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>>549194062
most intelligent post in the thread award
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>>549194265
Sure did
Poison's dead now and it wasn't even that great
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>>549193208
I don't need handouts but I do need information
I didn't play 3.26 at all, how do I access these and how do I make sure they have 175% quant
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>>549194912
>there are more systems to interact with
and all of them have extremely precisely prescribed ways of using them, very exciting stuff
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>>549195079
Only if you're stupid (you are)
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>>549194971
just buy the challenge chud
you would have to play the actual game instead of a divine per hour cookie clicker
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>>549189442
not in poe
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>>549195216
How do I buy something when I don't know what it is and even the wiki barely explains it
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>>549195179
genius 170iq poe2 player inventing new ways of generating his resources and then spending them
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>>549194971

Those maps are from Eagon. You encounter a memory tear in a map and then he offers you a path towards one of those boss maps. Pic related is the stuff needed to block paths at the top of your atlas once you've completed one.

Take every map mod effect on your atlas tree, and roll for at least 105% quantity (after chisels) on your invite at Eagon.

POE2 is a better game by the way.
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0.4 big flop
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Can someone explain to me the difference between corruption and desecretion as if I am legally retarded?
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>we're gonna nerf rarity and +skill effects
>by making them harder to get
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>>549195079
Last Lament Lich is already more interesting than literally anything in PoE 1 and it's an incredibly simple interaction
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3.27 already flopped, 0.4 has a future. Come join us in the whites only game, or stay in Kingsmarch with your gacha forever. Your move.
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>>549195691
poop2 players see a low life build and think it's the craziest thing ever
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>>549195691
Not reloading the crossbow and negating a downside is the most interesting thing in PoE 2?
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>>549195607
corrupt = vaal orbs and vaal league mechanics
desecrate = abyss league
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Endgame has been delayed until .6
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>bleed dragon blood mage
if it's shit i won't make it to maps can't come up with anything else that looks even mildly fun
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>>549195964
Yes, significantly more interesting than figuring out adding two numbers together sometimes makes a higher number. Also the small tech like hurting yourself by equipping an EB item to activate Execute support. It's solid specific interactions that make your build noticeably more powerful
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>>549196434
poe1 famously has no techs that involve hurting yourself so that is pretty cool actually
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>>549196434
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>arpg builds
>interesting
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As the only person in this general that has actually made usable gimmick builds, PoE 2 is significantly more interesting than PoE 1.
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>>549195426
Thank you for the rundown, I did a couple of the Eagon maps early in the league but it didn't make a whole lot of sense so I just ignored it
I figure this is probably gonna take a while since I have to find an individual memory tear for each one, right? I've got an atlas setup for map mod effect already so that's no trouble at least
>POE2 is a better game by the way.
I know, I want to hurry up and hit 36 so I don't burn out before 0.4
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>>549196687
Yakub?
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>>549195607
>desecration
>gets achieved with "desecreate item" currency
Just a scary word, it means you can choose what mod you want (out of 3 option + posibility to reroll once with omen) when you reveal desecration, nothing fancy

>corrupted
>gets achieved with vaal orb (or temple room in 0.4.0)
Item is locked, you cant change it ever(except specific cases) in return you got some kind of improvment/defect on it (liek additional socket, more quality, implicit mod)
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I'm won over by the poe 1 players, please post the most interesting poe 1 build you can think of
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>>549196687
Games so easy people cry about magic find despite saying you don't need the opportunity cost stats anyways and use gimmick builds when focusing on your basic scaling is enough to kill everything.
Idk man I'm not a PoE 1 die hard by anyways but I have 0 idea what you think you are bragging about.
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>>549196923
kinetic blast of clustering
you press one button and everything dies
you achieve this by stacking mana
very interesting build
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>>549196923
Frost nova hierophant
you press one button and everything dies
you achieve this by stacking mana
very interesting build
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>>549196923
lightning arrow deadeye
you press one button and everything dies
oh wait you were asking about poe1
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>>549196781
No problem buddy. I had the same frustration trying to figure out what the FUCK I had to do to target them and the wiki was a bit hard to navigate.
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>>549196923
Earthshatter Zerker
you press one button and everything dies
you achieve this by stacking phys damage
very interesting build
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>>549196923
flicker strike
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>>549196923
hotam jugg
you press one button and everything dies
you achieve this by stacking accuracy
very interesting build
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>>549196434
>poe2 builds are still stuck at the level of "make use of the obvious, described unique mechanic to make damage number go up"
lol. there's been like two trillion builds of that nature in poe1 bro
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>>549196923
herald stacking from delirium league, nothing has come close
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the most important part is how many divines per hour your build can make
if the number is high the build is interesting
if the number is low the build is not interesting
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uh oh 2jeet melty in progress
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>>549197406
Got an example?
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>>549197027
>>549197120
>>549197296
>>549197347

UH, CALLING AN EMERGENCY MEETING OF THE COUNCIL OF BROWNS, HOW DO WE SAVE FACE SIRS?
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2jeet gigamelty
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you are pathetic
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>>549196923
spark blood mage
you press one button and everything dies
you achieve this by stacking life
very interesting build
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Very compelling speegout when stacking gem level + on hit is 95% of PoE 2 builds.
Maybe both games are easy and only interesting based upon or own sunk costs.
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>>549197202
>ightning arrow deadeye
>you press one button
Yeah just LA and uh LR and uh TS also a mark or a curse this is the easiest PoE 2 build apparently
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>>549197532
you could write these exact words about literally any poe1 build lol
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>>549196434
embarrassing post friend
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herald stacking is not innovative
but it is fun
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>>549197202
>>549197296
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>>549197460
I don't think any of these are particularly interesting tbqh
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No poe 1 player wants to actually post a poe 1 build they find interesting?
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>>549197620
>these exact words about literally any poe1 build
Don't even try to pretend that you don't automate all that shit in PoE 1 you dumb cunt
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>>549197724
there's no interesting poe1 builds, sorry anon
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>>549196923
Uninstall wizard
Refundmancer
GGG headquarters autobomber
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What's the point of this autistic white meltdown
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>>549197752
you're right bro if only poe1 had gameplay on the level of warcry pianoing
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>>549197648
your pc is dying bro...
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>>549197827
It only upsets browns. What's the problem?
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>>549197827
>white
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>>549197724
whenever you ask a poo wun player something directly, they will always always deflect to poo two being bad. They have nothing they can defend, they know it would be an admission that poo wun is worse.
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>>549197752
having to press more buttons doesn't make a build more interesting or complex, it just means there's more mechanical tedium which means you get bored of the game faster
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>>549197916
this but also poe1 was bad 10 years ago so every flaw in poe2 is fine actually
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>>549197941
Love how deeply in the maze you are when clicking and aiming skills is now mechanical tedium no you fucker that's you playing the game
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>>549173350
retardbro, it was a wordplay on kite and kit-ava
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>>549198138
this dude clicks his hotbar lmao
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>>549197027
>you press one button and everything dies
>very interesting build

:^)
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>>549186737
Base crit doesn't need perfect gear, it's actually a more useful modifier at low gear
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>i go take the elevator against enemy dps on top
>my d.va within booster range of the roof too
>she gets shot by and matrixes said dps
>i ping the roof as i run in
>i take the elevator and she sees and hears me taking it
>she doesn't fly top
inbred fucking mud eating bug retards tank players
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>>549198773
wrong thread, retard
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>>549187294
Poe2 is an incredibly low keypress person second game, even when compared to poe1. It's mostly because of the pacing, lack of flasks, abd lack of real on screen dangers occurring. You basically just autopilot while using wasd. People complain about combos because it makes the combat even slower, not because it's hard. It necessarily has to change how mobs a t and how quickly players react when every encounter isn't decided by a situational skill use but a mandatory series of button presses and things with long cast times to do something
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there a regex for 8 mod maps?
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>>549197490
That's the joke, I thought.
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so they added 2h swords right?
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>>549198773
who the fuck is playing ow in the last 8 years lmao, is this a psyop to try and get more than 12 players?
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>>549150741
DOG SHlT OF EXILE 2
NO NEW ACTS OF EXILE 2
NO SWORDS OF EXILE 2
NO TOTA OF EXILE 2
NO ENDGAME CHANGES OF EXILE 2
NO CHALLENGES OF EXILE 2
NO PALADlN OF EXILE 2
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I'm not really sure what position to take. PoE 1 players are cancer. But Jonathan is also awful at this.
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>>549197724
I played Blood Sacrament this league and it was very fun and interesting in terms of how certain things like lab become horrifying but ubers instantly blow up. a good life/crit multi ring will cost you though



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