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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8882 - Rejekun Edition

==NEWS==
>Whisper and Tangle in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>549218989
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our queen has returned
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>>549261457
>Are sthgians capable of writing Sonic in character? I dont mean writing good. Just in character.
>/sthg/ actually tries
absolute madman
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>>549261796
sa1 just looks so good
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>>549261723
>every Rejekun's video on YT has at least 100k views
>every Sonic video on his channel has under 100k views
https://www.youtube.com/@Rejekun/videos
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>>549261870
>/sthg/ hates IDW for toothless writing and shoving in OCs
>writes a generic no-stakes walk through the woods about an OC, outside fighting a robot (like that matters to anyone)
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>>549261065
>>549261084
Sonic being free as the wind describes his adventurous lifestyle. It was never meant to imply he can’t be in a romantic relationship and it was never meant to imply that he only enjoys running and jumping and finds everything else boring. Love is not a cage
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>>549262369
Anon the point of the exercise was to not make sonic ooc
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>tfw no blobian fursuit cosplaying gf
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There is no fucking "trifecta" you are shit. Amy loves Sonic. Rouge doesn't love Shadow, she likes him. Shadow doesn't love Rouge and never will? Silvaze. Fucking lmao actually shut up. Fuck off. Stop trying to leech on Sonamy.
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>>549262558
westerners are literally incapable of writing sonic IC. I don't mean this as an insult but they literally lack the depth of experience that being japanese innately brings which allows you to "understand" sonic the hedgehog
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>>549262230
No matter how much you hate this, you can never hate it enough. It’s what opened the door to all the leftists infecting the fandom because “Sonic agrees with me and he would hate you”
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>>549262369
At least this one isn't another useless civilian whose only role is to be a bundle of feels because that's the only form of conflict the writer likes.
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>>549262858
We are still on the level of "Don't do all the stupid shit from Archie and Shitam". We will never make it to the further nuances.
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The trifecta?

More like the Nigger Trio.
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>>549262709
Sonic will never like Amy.
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>>549262858
>they literally lack the depth of experience that being japanese innately brings which allows you to "understand" sonic the hedgehog
Like what?
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>>549263091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBIH0j3UyLE

Your ship will never have this
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>>549262709
>Amy loves Sonic
not anymore that's considered character disrespect to Ian who's now the main writer.
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>>549262865
i mean
sonic WOULD hate you
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>>549263153
Hopefully, it's controversial shit.
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I know the SAME people who spam about the trifecta to make Silvaze and Shadouge look relevant and important also post the best*e collage just to shit on Sonamy. They never cared about Sonamy, it was just their ticket to legitimacy. Fuck off. You are the worst kind of posters.
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>>549263097
I'm not wasting my time on you
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>>549263091
You sure about that?
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>>549263091
>>549263198
"trifecta" fags when they realize they got caught
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>>549263324
>SAME people who spam about the trifecta
>also post the best*e collage
no
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>nonono you don't understand this character who's entire personality revolves around being friendly to anyone not trying to actively murder him would agree with my politics that state it's ok to imprison or kill people for holding hands in public
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The trifecta:
Sonic X Elise
Shadow X Maria
Silver X his hand
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>>549263391
>>549263452
>Sonamy fags seething again
Oh boy can't wait for gore on a Sunday
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>>549263097
nta but if a character speaks with a valley girl accent in the west, it tells you many things about their character that are only effective to western ears. There are many nuances Americans fail to achieve especially when they deliberately make changes to Sonic's character in the first place. The best that you can hope for is an american weeb simply copying the existing Sonic works so that his personality doesn't read as OOC to american eyes. But in the end of the day it will never be perfect.
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>>549262858
It's possible to understand Sonic as a Westerner. You just have to discard everything you've ever learned from Western media, never listen to Western staff or social media, stop pretending that fanart or fanfictions are accurate, go watch fan retranslations on YouTube, and take note of how the Japanese staff describes him.
>B-but that's a chore!
Not if you genuinely like Sonic and have a passion to learn more.
>>549263512
Fuck off fag
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STOP ANON SHIPPING IS NOT CANON WE'RE ALL FRIENDS HERE AND HAVE NO GENITALS!
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>>549263525
Silver doesn't need his hand when he has those powers Desu
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>>549263614
>It's possible to understand Sonic as a Westerner
LOL
typical westoid cope
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>>549263614
I disagree. Even if one were to ignore all of the archie shit and satam shit they would still be left with the dubshit from the games and at best the interpretation of the japanese sub through western ears that can't pick up every nuance and tic.
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>>549263672
Well, he's usually depicted as controlling/guiding his powers with his hands, right?
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>>549263037
Need racist mobian gf
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>>549263554
You better be ready for 2027. You’re going to need lots of copium
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>>549261723
Voice requests and Sonic discussion topics/questions go here.
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>>549263728
That's why you should also spend time googling and researching various Japanese concepts associated with Sonic and co.
You should also ignore dubshit.
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What was lost in translation?
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>>549263781
You mean girl boss thor Amy on a jewish leftist company? are you sure this ship will go well?
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The english dub of sa2 can't be canon due to lines such as "is that what... chaos control is?" that make no fucking sense.
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>>549263097
>Like what?
"Show don't tell", for one. It's a dead art in the west, our culture's gotten so fucked that unless you state your intentions in the bluntest way so every retard, you will be misinterpreted (or in some cases, the audience takes a different message away from it that you get asshurt about). Look at this scene, considered the "peak" and proof that IDW is worthwhile. The writers don't actually understand, it's just that this is the only method they were allowed by Sega. I would bet actual money that they forced them to cut internal narration out during the drafts.
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>no Spider OC
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>>549264037
Every writer knows this rule, but a lot don't have the talent to use it or they don't care.
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>>549263905
It’s been building up to something big for a while now and Pat Casey said he wanted to write Amy like Mary Ann Summers from Gilligan’s Island.
Yes I do know who runs Paramount
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>>549263851
Eggman:
>"Du Dum Dum de Dee daa, it is GOOD day to be NOT DEAD!"
Fang:
>"Pow! You're dead."
Eggman:
>"No, we're not doing this, this is stupid."
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>>549264037
I always consider this series of pages to be a "Broken clock" moment like in Archie where Sonic ignores Sally's argument and runs away leading her to say "it's like talking to the wind"

What happened there wasn't the 1992 writer recognizing that Sonic is like the wind and making a reference to it. That was in fact the 90s generic skater boy personality happening to correctly behave like Sonic would in that circumstance because there is some minor overlap between that and the real Sonic.
"Talking to the wind" is already a common phrase. Nobody who ever wrote for Sally before she was vaulted was actually aware of the concept that "Sonic is free as the wind".
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https://voca.ro/130SHjNcjCSh
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>>549264037
Japanese Sonic has zero subtlety as well idiot
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> trifecta talk
>>>549258464
> Blaze has confirmed feelings
for Sonic... Which makes the trifecta thing just a tiny little bit awkward doesn't It?
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>>549263851
whisper trying to get into burger king before its even open
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>>549264315
>rambles inanely about Sally on a page about Metal Sonic
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>>549264513
sally's ass can be distracting sometimes
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>>549264425
One detail that is impossible to translate is actually Sonic's very name. Sonic the Hedgehog. In japanese "Hedgehog" isn't a word. Sonic is a Harinezumi. His name is Sonic the Hedgehog, not Sonic no Hedgehog. Not Sonic the Harinezume. His name is Sonic the Hedgehog.
When Sonic talks about what kind of animal he is, he calls himself a harinezume. He does not use the english word "Hedgehog" much aside from referring to his name. To a japanese speaker who has never heard the word "Hedgehog" they can glean what it means from "The".

It's like how in america we have Usagi Yojimbo. That sounds like a cool foreign name. But it just means Rabbit bodyguard.
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>>549264512
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do you guys really want to spend weekend on this?
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>>549264513
The point is simply that westerners can appear to understand something in depth about the franchise when really it's just a stack of coincidences.
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>>549264696
i can always take time out of my day to talk to krack and maris
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>>549264632
We need localizers but they all suck.
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Randomfox walked all over Voice Anon's arguments for like 20 minutes straight yesterday. It was very funny.
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>>549262865
suits at Sega want to do this anon, world changed and moved on without you, timne to accept that
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>>549264910
Where is it? What did he say?
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>>549264910
To be fair I had to go offline because I'm sick and I didn't feel very good. I did read his mountain of text though.
>>549264967
Let me sum it up for you.
>Muh Sonic show fans bad
>Muh comic fans bad
>Muh game canon
Even though I was arguing purely on game canon and met him where he was at. Basically Windnic good because it's canon. Even though the modern games stories suck balls and the past games have a superior Sonic. This guy apparently referenced character traits that were purely in older titles not the newer and current games.

tl;dr bitching and moaning over the portrayal of Sonic which is stupid. Because if it exists as an official piece of Sonic media regardless of what canon it is. Then SEGA on some level approves of the vision.
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Westerners hate the japanese canon
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Westerners hate the games
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>>549264485
Trifecta started as a way for shadougefags (and I guess silvazefags) to basically market their ship. It's not an actual thing except for maybe 06, which has it's own issues with characterization, let alone shipping.
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>>549263738
If the entire thread was Shadow it would be better.
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>>549265379
>>549265323
So do the Japanese desu
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>>549265313
>tl;dr bitching and moaning over the portrayal of Sonic which is stupid. Because if it exists as an official piece of Sonic media regardless of what canon it is. Then SEGA on some level approves of the vision.
retarded cope for people who like ooc dime store comics that sega doesn't spend money going through every detail of so they just make sure it doesn't bump against a list of basic rules that americans are somehow still too stupid to actually get right like "Sonic is not a standard hero"
there is no defending the comics
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>>549264485
Still wonder why she's even around, why would they create a 14 yr old cum dumpster for the mc who has no original concepts and no usefulness to anything?
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>>549265490
Pure sex
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>>549264632
The rabbit's name is actually Miyamoto Usagi, Usagi Yojimbo is the title of the book, unless your only exposure to the character is the 80s TMNT cartoon. lol
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>>549265140
The Shadow bullying must stop. Someday he is going to appear hanging from the ceiling and who was to blame? All of you
https://youtube.com/shorts/FKipZcs9ZRA?si=8JgwvoTUNL2tMn-y
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>>549265313
Sonic in the games was always windnic. Only the comics did that other stuff.
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>>549265490
He's hot. His wife is lucky to have him.
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Sammy loved the idea of Sonic being a hero. I can't forget that. I wonder what they meant by it.
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MY sonic is based on canon LUDOKINO like FRONTIERS, FORCES, 06 and LOST WORLD. Not noncanon OOC TRASH like X and SATAM.

Don't even get me STARTED on SoA SLOPPA. SoJ SUPREME.
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>>549262709
> Amy
Likes Sonic
> Blaze
Likes Sonic but less than Amy does
> Rouge
Is between Shadow or Knuckles, also flirts with Sonic

> Sonic
Windshit, too detached for Amy, too different lifestyle for Blaze
> Shadow
Too hurt by the loss of Muhria
> Silver
Has the maturity of Movie Sonic
> Knuckles
Kinda dislikes Rouge more than likes her
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>>549265412
Not even '06 had the "Trifecta". Trifectacucks just conveniently pretend Elise wasn't #winning the Sonicbowl while Amy sat in the cuckchair watching.
There's a loose 'theme' in '06 (wanting to choose your partner over the world), but that 'theme' applies to four pairings in the game, not three.
It was a cute meme name I guess, but people started to take it seriously.
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>>549265415
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>>549265725
Wait what the fuck? He does have a wife! Oh no, this changes things.
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Shadaze?
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Trifecta is ultimately a forced attempt to make Silvaze and Shadouge as "legitimate" as Sonamy. It's also a disingenuous attempt to manipulate Sonamy fans by saying "Our ships are canon, so yours is too. If you want our ships to be canon you should accept all three". It's basic manipulation. Shadouge is archieshit and Silvaze is barely there tanabata.
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>>549265837
Irrelevant fags like Rougefags and Blazefags begun to push it because them being in a relationship is the only interesting matter about these characters
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shadamy!
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>>549266052
I love them!
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>>549265850
Yeah, Megan Acorn.
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>>549266052
Better than Shadouge
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>>549265941
Any ship with Blaze is basically better with rape, Shadaze will not not work in canon if Shadow is not beating her into submission
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>>549265486
https://voca.ro/1jQjy2EQUTtq
>>549265724
https://voca.ro/11rJKcUMxcuy
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>>549266096
I might cancel my commission. If he has a canonical wife, then the pic I wanted to get of him is kind of weird in that context...
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>>549265786
We can only hope they make Silver half as cute as Sonic was in the first 2 movies. I don't think I will watch the 4 one if Sonic isn't the cute naive boy anymore, he is too mature now
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>>549264632
>hedgehog = species
>Hedgehog = name
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There is no such fucking thing as the meta era
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>>549266052
ye
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>>549265865
Why is Shadally so hot compared to other ships?
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>>549266019
Can you say anything that's not words word slop?
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>>549266262
Is Shadow missing an arm?
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>>549266286
the hottest woman x the hottest man
it's a mystery, really
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>>549266286
Same way Sonaze and Rails work, too much porn
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>>549266150
>Arguing
>with windfags
you will have an easier time convincing shippers that they are wrong
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>>549265941
I still think it would be funny to pair them together out of nowhere with no buildup. Silvazefags, Sonazefags, Shadougefags, Sonadowfags, and Shadamyfags, all anally eviscerated, their minds bluescreening because they don't have any sort of canned response or argument prepared against it.
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>>549266428
what's the weirdest ship in your shadow folder
is there any shadmephi?
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>>549266249
Huh? The Meta Era is called the way it is due to Sega actively shitting on the franchise to appease people that didn't even like the franchise besides maybe Sonic 2.
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>>549266358
There isn't a lot of Shadally porn though.
>>549266329
True that.
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>Same number of spines on the head
>Same cheek ridges behind the eyes
>Iizuka originally wanted Perfect Chaos to have overlapping scales
>Both used the Chaos Emeralds in anger

I don't know why people want to deny this. Gameplay isn't canon so Trip only used the Chao Emeralds once and it was to destroy Mecha Fang after being hurt like Chaos.
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>>549266286
Lustful girl x lustless boy? It is basically the same pairing as Momoroki and that is considered extremely hot but those are humans
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>>549266428
kek add knuxamy and silvisper (she's canon now, how would have thought) for maximum damage
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>>549266385
https://voca.ro/1lcqi1gnYDlE
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>>549266584 (Me)
who* would
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>>549265786
>Kinda dislikes Rouge more than likes her
I don't even understand this because he's been shown working alongside her and being friendly plenty. He only really behaves like a cock because he's too stupid to get her flirting. Like in SA2, she's obviously flirting with him after he catches her. Look at how her tone and body language change. When she calls him a creep she seems almost playful, but knuckles the adolescent boy doesn't get she's teasing him and fires back at her, after which you can see her look visibly disappointed. But even after stealing the shards and trying to murder him, he still apologizes to her. Honestly? Their animosity got played up too hard after Heroes. It seems totally punch-clock, like as long as knuckles isn't guarding gems he gets along with rouge just fine. Makes sense considering he probably knows as much about gems as she does.
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>>549266286
Because Shadow's hip thrusts could ruin her
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>>549266748
this pic seems so innocent unless you know the lore
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>>549266428
>>549266584
Shadaze
Silvamy
Sonouge
all in-character, but without any buildup
maybe sonouge had a moment like two months ago, but it's forgotten now
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The SSS trio was only made to shill Silver, like, that's the only function of the trio; marketing.
Sonic and Shadow are equals, by grouping Silver with them, you are saying that Silver is just as good as Sonic and Shadow are individually.
By disagreeing with that statement, you reject the trio entirely, this is what 90% of the fanbase did and it's why the SSS trio thankfully hasn't been a thing since 06.
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>>549266428
I feel like even adventure-era sonic would get pissed seeing blaze hangout with shadow.
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>>549266249
There is and contrary to popular belief it has not ended.
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>>549266829
That makes it 10x funnier.
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>>549266829
Jesus Christ. Where to start?

>She is in the wheel chair because he fucking railed her
>He only did it because he was under a magic spell and would never have consented normally
>The image took 3 hours for the creator to put together
>It caused a civil war in the general over what is and isn't allowed to be on the booru
>Years of booru images got purged because Shadow fucked Sally until she couldn't stand
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>>549266879
>it's forgotten now
Not to me.
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>>549267057
I have been saying for the past year that windfags should never make shipping content. God help us all if a windfag likes Sonails.
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>>549267057
>It caused a civil war in the general over what is and isn't allowed to be on the booru
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>>549267267
>Sonails
Thank God windfag-faggots (homosexuals) don't make much or can't do gay content.
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>>549266492
Yeah, Shadmephi exists, although the shippers call it Mephadow in English.
Shadow's shipped with almost everyone. These all have art:
>Shadow x Cosmo, Shadow x Big, Shadow x Elise, Shadow x Wave, Shadow x Eggman, Shadow x Gerald, Shadow x Commander, Shadow x Honey, Shadow x Rookie, Shadow x Jewel, Shadow x Eclipse, Shadow x Mina, Shadow x Antoine, Shadow x Julie-Su, Shadow x Luigi, Shadow x Sakura from Naruto...
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>>549267267
Sonails is basically canon already but wearen't ready for that conversation.
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>>549267057
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Thoughts on sonic shipping
https://voca.ro/1oRhxbtEdLg5
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>>549267436
Tails is the closest relationship of windfaggot Sonic
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>>549267540
Sonic visits him regularly, Tailsfeeds him and washes his clothes. Tails is functionally Sonic's wife.
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>>549267692
Tails doesn't feed Sonic, Sonic steals food from Tails. Tails is Sonic's bitch more than a wife
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>>549267692
>Tails is functionally Sonic's wife.
With the exception that he does not enjoy the privilege of being inseminated by Sonic. Sonic only fucks THE WIND ( he cums when he runs really fast)
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>>549266983
>>>549266983
>it's why the SSS trio thankfully hasn't been a thing since 06
That's debatable, as they are used in marketing from time to time and even in the games, as Shadow and Silver are major rivals in Generations
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>>549267504
Vanilla/Vector survived because it's exclusively a sideshow. It's vanilla and vector, neither one is important and it's unlikely to piss anyone off.
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>>549267504
>Why is Shadally so cursed
tldr the ship was coined by a gamefag who thought the pairing was completely ridiculous and ran with it. He was infamous in the last two days because the local jp-purist Shadow expert considers what he did acceptable. He might or might not be (70%) the game developer who posts here.
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YO LOOK AT THIS NAKED CHIPMUNK SO FRUACKING HOOOTT
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>>549267941
>>549267975
https://voca.ro/11EB63sMWtxi
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>>549267994
Bro reminds me of randal from clerks
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>>549267975
She already explained why he got away with it tho. It's not like she just randomly gave specific approval to Shadally. It's because it does not make any attempt to push an OOC trait onto Shadow. Even if it gives the most fucked up possible explanation in the process.
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>>549267975
>>549268313
You're all wrong. He got away with it because incomprehensible windshit
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>>549266879
> Sonouge
> No romance
> No feelings
> Just flirting, Fucking and Freedom

Honestly it works well.
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>>549265670
>>549265725
Hell yeah
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>>549268457
Every character in this franchise is sexless
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Have a good morning /sthg/, what are you guys up to?
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>>549268071
he would fuck all of those kids
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>>549266157
What was it? It’s the Sonic fandom, 99% of commissions are weird
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>>549268672
Elias bridal carrying my OC (boy).
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>>549268672
https://voca.ro/1ajeH4yZUB08
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JP Purists writing western Sonic characters apparently: So Shadow fucks her into fucking dust like a hydraulic press
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>549265490
Elias!
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>>549268164
I'm gonna watch this movie looks cool. However I am not this guy. I'm very nice to strangers IRL.
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>>549267975
>He might or might not be (70%) the game developer who posts here.
This one?
https://anonpaste.com/share/sonic-chronicles-fangame-clips-v2-9f10c521ed
99% odds. If it is not him that is more shocking.
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you guys made me more gay because of elias posting, i dont know how to feel about it
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>>549268770
scribbs is not a purist
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>>549268770
>So Shadow, while under a magic spell, fucks her into fucking dust like a hydraulic press
ftfy
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>>549268969
Only one of these is me. I hate to bear the bad news to you, but there's more than one Elias lover here.
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Didn't Sonic Team say that Sonic will have a heart of a boy forever so he will never be with Amy?
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>>549269076
Right right, because without the magic spell it would be OOC
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namefags are like celebrities here
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>>549269123
Of course YOU would think that
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>>549269106
that was one guy
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>all this gay shit on the Lord's day
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>>549268763
Thanks Voiceanon, we like you too!
>gay Elias fuckers
What? We're Not gay
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>>549269205
that was one of his creators, the other said sonic would never be in a relationship
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>>549268763
I thought his name was pronounced "el-ee-us", not "el-aye-us". Which one is correct?
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>>549268965
>Megan
>No Elias
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>>549268969
What can I say I just really love Elias
>>549269102
True
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>>549269228
Have YOU ever seen Elias's penis?
That's right, "he" was a girl the whole time.
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Fact: genderbent Amy > girl Amy
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Who is the SMARTEST namefag?
Who is the STRONGEST namefag?
Who is the FRIENDLIEST namefag?
Who is the MOST BASED namefag?
Who is the MOST POPULAR namefag?
Who is the MOST TALENTED namefag?
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>>549269492
maris
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>>549269459
Something that drives me up a wall about genderbent work is that NOBODY catches on to the fact that males have darker colors while the females have lighter colors. Axl Rhodes would not be PINK, he would be red, female Knuckles(Nails) would be pink.

GOD
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>>549266150
I feel like Sonamyfags gloated really hard when archie got the memo that Sonic wouldn't date Sally they forgot to consider that Sonic might just not like romance at all canonically and has been extremely blunt about it ever since he started talking. Modern windshit only twists the knife. Sonamy is doomed unless the movies somehow perpetuate it.

That is assuming the movies aren't mandated not to give Sonic any romantic interest just like how they were mandated to keep Shadow in character.
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>>549269459
I would.
Who is the artist? or how does the entire pic look
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*buys your OC food*
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>>549269679
But what if in this AU, femAmy is a very light pastel pink, thus making the regularly pink Jamie Ross darker by comparison?
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>>549268457
Sounds like whoring out and Sonic being a cuck.
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>>549266150
>Underground
The most aggressive windfag on this general (and the internet at large) will tell you with a straight face that all Sonic adaptations are violently OOC and that Underground is the only adaptation that is slightly acceptable.
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>>549269459
No.
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>>549269974
sonic's WINDY cock is so addictive that rouge never fucks anyone else
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>>549269679
>NOBODY catches on to the fact that males have darker colors while the females have lighter colors
>Tails, Vector, Silver
Either way, that's dumb.
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>>549266150
>What do you want, for everyone to just stop liking the other Sonics
No windfags want all non game Sonic fans to be eliminated full stop.
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>>549270092
>>Tails, Vector, Silver

>Orange not yellow
>Green not mint
>Silver not white

my point stands
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>>549270195
>it's not as light as it COULD be so doesn't count
Mmkay.
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>>549269881
https://x.com/ButtJavis/status/1898886923558724022
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>>549270085
Stop trying to make it work. It just doesn't. Rouge would fuck for a gain if she had to take advantage of another person.
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>>549269679
>NOBODY
I did catch onto that tho. The couple of times I drew genderbent males they're purposely lighter, although subtly.
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>>549270287
I hate tranny nic so much it's gay
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No, seriously, why are Sonamyfags like this?

>>549252996
>>549252929
>>549253159

Legit just why? It's just incredible they foam like pitbulls and turn into absolute psychopaths over anything they see that shows Sonic not reciprocating Amy (a.k.a. 90% of Sonic stuff, games and secondary media).

Do Sonamyfags EVEN know that yes, Sonic is NOT supposed to be in a relationship? Even Archie Sonic cleverly understood that with making him stay with Sally or anyone else for that matter but NEVER with Amy because, duh, Amy is canonically a bitch crazy stalking girl.
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krack is the fvcking wind
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>>549269914
you can buy them a burger
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>>549269881
Also this: https://x.com/ButtJavis/status/1932344060238545016
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>>549270587
the BIGGEST burger (they can comfortably finish, w/ fries and a nice beverage and maybe dessert)
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The problem with Sonouge and Sonougefags is that they are doing something you aren't supposed to do and projecting sex drives onto the characters. Fictional characters made for kids don't even float the idea unless it's someone they are in love with (Shut up Sally doesn't count). Obviously if Sonic was an actual teenager with actual neurons in his brain he would think Rouge is very attractive and it wouldn't actually say much about him as a person. But he isn't so he doesn't think Rouge is attractive and barely considers her a lady. The flirting thing they do isn't even real flirting. It's a semi sexual form of headbutting.
In the games Sonic and Rouge literally never bend their will for anyone. They also rarely interact. So when they're stuck with each other they keep pushing to see who bends first. Sure in an adult crime drama this would definitely involve sexual tension but that's definitely not the case here.

Also I hate Sonouge Sonamy is better fuck you
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>>549270287
>>549270604
I don't LOVE it but still cool concept art
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>>549270553
>"proceeding to make her the butt of Sonic's affections when she stood no chance."
I wonder if he knows that's literally how Amy is always supposed to be, yeah.
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>>549270553
>Archie understood
>Sonic stay with
its amazing how you can just create a whole new oxymoron never seen before. Archie didn't understand shit about Sonic and the romance was at the root of that. It's literally ugly Megaman tier.
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>>549270864
I meant that yeah, even Archie Sonic knew Amy is just pretty crazy fangirl and that's why he gets with Sally who's more of a grounded woman despite everything.
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>>549270963
Yes famously the Sonic from the games loves grounded things and he also loves having to return to a specific location due to a personal obligation he just loves these things that is definitely not the one and only thing that remained consistent from day one being tossed out for shipping
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>>549270864
>the romance was at the root of that.
But enough of 06, Rushshit and Frontiers.
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>>549270963
Sally is antithetical to Sonic, she ties him down and tries to ground him. Amy chases after him, so he can't be tied down by her as they're always doing the cat and mouse game
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>>549271038
Did you read my post and think I like 06 what the fuck man
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>>549270963
>A more grounded woman despite everything
This is Archie simultaniously misunderstanding the creators intent behind both Sonic and Sally at the same time and completely butchering Amy in the process. It's actually a work of art how OOC Archie is and I genuinely miss the unhinged content we would get.

I won't bore you with the details but Archie and its writers were absolutely not appreciated by the man who created Sally in the first place and what they ultimately ended up doing with her went entirely against his view of her in every way.
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I have never seen a smart person pair Sonic and Amy with other characters. It's always a dumb shipper who can't wrap their head around the fact that characters have personalities and aren't just skins you can apply to your self insert.
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>>549270287
Femver got some nice titties on her
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>>549271032
>the Sonic from the games loves grounded things
Yes? He just wants to wind around and chill. How is that not being a grounded person? He likes adventures, but he also likes chilling.

> he also loves having to return to a specific location due to a personal obligation
Yes, like Tails house for helping stuff, Angel Island, getting back to hoverboards and snowboarding. Nigger.

>>549271113
>Sally is antithetical to Sonic
In a secondary media which it doesn't care about canon and just does what it wants. Meanwhile, Sonamyfags want Sonic tied down.

>Amy chases after him, so he can't be tied down by her
Yes, and otherwise, he would be tied down. Glad we agree.
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>>549270287
>Knuckles topless
and just like that its archie trash. Female characters stay entirely covered up. End of story.
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>>549271410
Telekinesis-ing her chest fluff into the shape of boobs
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>>549271359
this dlc fucking sucked
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>>549271192
It's never too early to be angry about Sonic being used for whatever Sega and Sonic Team wants
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>>549271457
Is this anon trying to argue that Sonally is somehow in character for any version of Sonic from the videogames or am I going to have to work on my reading comprehension because that would be some bad bait
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>>549271531
...huh?
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>>549271531
>most Sonic fans have never had friends

wow imagine my shock
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>>549271582
we should all follow Yasuhara's example and just let Sonic go
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>>549271607
>Sonally is somehow in character for any version of Sonic from the videogames
I never said that. I said only Archie Sonic CLEVERLY, read, cleverly, aka was cheeky and knew Amy is psycho fangirl, so Sonic staying with someone else except Amy is out of character (because he doesn't like relationships) but also in character (Amy is really crazy, yes).

It's just your reading comprehension, yes.
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>>549271607
it was IC in SatAM. well most of the time
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No no no no no we are not doing this.
Sonally is out of character whatever nobody cares. It's dead and gone.

SONAMYFAGS do NOTTTT get to pretend that they are better. Fuck you you lying fucks. Holy shit you people are the most dishonest fuckers ever. I hate shippers.
>Hurrr Sonic is the wind he doesn't want to be tied down
THAT ALSO APPLIES TO AMY YOU ASSHOLE. SONIC X DIRECTLY SPELLED IT OUT FOR YOU. SHE DOES NOT ACTUALLY ENJOY CHASING HIM. SHE WOULD DELIBERATELY RESTRICT HIS FREEDOMS IF SHE WAS GIVEN THE CHANCE.

Sonamy is just as much of an OOC "Tie him down and warp his personality in the process" ship as Sonally and every instance of it is OOC. I am tired of Sonamyfags bullying Sonallyfags with windshit as if they are somehow better.
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sonic loves green hill zone - sega
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>>549271785
It's actually stunning how IC Satam is but because it is directly associated with Archie if you try and explain it to a game purist they look at you like you just said you fucked Jesus. I feel like a crazy person help me.
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>>549271359
What's that machine Tails is holding? I haven't looked the gameplay of these characters since it came out
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>>549271823
EXACTLY what I mean, thank you. Sonally is gone anyway and only in secondary media. Never affected the games, no one really cares.

That page of Amy letting Sonic and Sally go away on a date as she waves literally couldn't be anymore great because Amy would absolutely do that. In a crazy impossible chance Sonic does get laid, Amy absolutely would be psychotic enough to make herself of a clown like that.
That's in-character and Sonamyfags want you to believe otherwise when they are just as worse.
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>>549271785
Discarded. Naka specifically named the Dic Shows off as disrespecting Sega's wishes. We know they are OOC because the creator of Sonic said they are OOC
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Norris will win
Sonic will win
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>>549272089
Naka is not the creator of Sonic. Ohshima is.
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>>549272089
Naka was a cunt and got jailed anyway, who cares.
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>>549270604
Cream barely changes shes just naked. Who let this little girl run around naked?
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I was unfamiliar with krazyelf, but I shall now become much more familiar.
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>>549272087
Sonamyfags have been pushing this narrative that Sonic was "in on the joke" and has a "unique place in his heart for Amy" and "Amy would stop if it was seriously bothering him it's just a game they play"
LIES
In lost World Amy DIES and Sonic DOES NOT CARE because MUH WIND. Its taken completely seriously and isn't even a joke. The fact that she dies is just a minor inconvenience for windnic.
In Sonic X she is VIVIDLY AWARE that he doesn't love her and will never love her so she decides to fucking rape him with magic water. She goes villain mode. Amy isn't in on any fucking joke. She is completely aware that Sonic's windtism means he isn't even capable of romance so she would force it on him.
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>>549272174
NTA but Naka was never sent to jail. That's just misinformation.
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>>549272089
>as disrespecting Sega's wishes
his* wishes. he is sonic's father. one his fathers

>>549272151
sonic is a joint project.
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>>549272261
she got worse
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>>549272261
remember to hydrate
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>>549272360
yeah its really sad to see
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If you don't like windnic it's because you never liked Sonic
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>>549272482
Sonic is only popular because of what America did with him. Japanese Sonic isn't even liked in Japan. This isn't up for debate.
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>>549261723
but what about Silver :(
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>>549272482
Sonamyfags on suicide watch.

>>549272572
He meant relative to Sonamyfags who seethe here hard anytime a page of Archie Sonic is posted, like they really think they know better than actual game purists fags.
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>what about Silver
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> Rush
This is why I like Sonaze, I think it works perfectly in-character for both

> He is windshit
> She is windshit but for work
> They may like the other but they will neve sacrifice their windshitness for the other.

Simple and effective.
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Total Silvisper victory
Total Tangledyke death
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>>549272572
Windnic would have made both Satam and Archie ten times better and that also isn't up for debate. Now they are seen as ugly mishapen relics that couldn't accurately nail the personality of a cartoon mascot. Honestly that's humiliating. These people couldn't write garfield. If you gave Archie Luffy they would find a way to turn him into Deku.
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>>549272687
>> She is windshit but for work
Nope. Blaze stays in her castle and doing royal shit. Don't be like a Sonamyfag, please.

> They may like the other but they will neve sacrifice their windshitness for the other.
Please don't be like a delusional Sonamyfag, dude, please.
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>>549272368
Silver should sell his bath water
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>>549272485
I have to do something for you Minafag.
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>>549272652
So here's the thing about Sonamyfags. The real truth about Sonamyfags. They use actual game purists as a weapon. Like sharks in the water. They throw in blood "See the Sonallyfags want to tie Sonic down and give him relationship drama!" and they know that the jp purists will hear that and see red. They know that what they have done is just as destructive as if they said "westfags want Sonic to stop being fast". It's scummy. It's manipulative.

Worst of all, if Sally was written the exact same way in the comics and cartoons but was just an incarnation of Amy that sonic was making out with and promising to compromise for, Sonamyfags would love it. This is because Sonamyfags are dishonest scum bitter about the time they were bullied by diaperfags in 2004.
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Sonamy is out of character. Some pamphlet written by a non-sega employee for a magazine that cites "team Sonic" is not evidence
>But Evan said-
Evan Stanley thought Uwuver was in-character. want to use her as a resource?
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>>549272687
>She is windshit but for work
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You guys take shipping far too seriously.
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>>549273321
sonazefags have the same delusions as all sonic shippers. they think they are safe from the wind.
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>>549272829
cutemy

>>549272936
this sounds ominous
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japbros... why do we even bother...?
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Sonic won F1
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Sonouge and Sonurge are the only pairings that do not in any way involve a change to Sonic's character.
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>>549273545
They did what now to Japan?
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>>549272151
Sonic peaked after Ohshima left (SA2)
Sonic sank after Naka left (06 => now)
let that sink in
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>>549273589
Rouge and Sonic hardly interact and IDW is not canon.
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>>549273545
Sonic simply doesn't appeal to otaku or kemonoGODS

>>549273597
hmmm nyo
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>>549273663
Let me rephrase then

Sonouge and Sonurge are still the only pairings that do not in any way involve a change (As in a new invented behavior never before seen in any of the personalities he's had in the games) to Sonic's character.
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>>549273545
I don't want to sound like a obnoxious Sonic fag(Especially after what happened with CrossWorlds), but Zootopia is one of the ugliest Disney movies I ever seen in terms of character design. All of them look wrong in some way and Judy weird smile makes me want to unironically punch her in the face.
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>>549273545
Sonic needs to copy Zootopia
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>>549273545
>Put straight bait in the cover
>Movie is a success
Socking. Watch them fuck it up just by making Amy do some stupid pose fighting instead
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Sonamyfags have no counter against Sonouge. They barely talk and yet they have so much more chemistry.
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>>549270154
https://voca.ro/1euT7RRsS1n2
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>>549273767
I would be shocked if they actually allow amy have that much exposed skin around her shoulders and boobs in the final product. Like this shouldn't be problematic for anyone since is just a cute dress but every year I lose hope with how much shit is censored.
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Douge
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*saves the western civilization*
You are welcome
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>>549273663
It's easy to describe what Sonic and Rouge's lives would be like if they started fucking. It would be adventure after heist after adventure. If Sonic and Amy started dating she would slow him down.
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>549274012
I love that lynx like you wouldn't believe
I'm ready for 2026 to be full of doujins with him
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>>549273793
Rouge and Sonic hardly interact and IDW is not canon.

>>549274021
Not falling for this bait.
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>>549273767
Will it show up, or will it be memory-holed?
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Sonic has porn addiction
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>>549273663
Everything you just said is irrelevant to the post you're replying to.
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>>549274249
>the creators of SatAM didn't play the games
What games? Sonic 2 on the genesis?

>authors of archie didn't
Same argument as above. at least they tried to make Archie Sonic behave like game Sonic without making hard turns. but they were absolutely fitting in a lot of head canon.
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>>549274593
Shut up shipnigger.
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>>549274692
>. at least they tried to make Archie Sonic behave like game Sonic
>romance soap opera

at the time archie and satam started one of the only things we had to go off of is "Sonic is not a hero" and they contradicted that harder than any other iteration
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>>549274249
>shitheads who don’t play the games
Honestly why I dislike video game adaptations in general
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>>549273321
>>549273419
I will defend my positon lol, Blaze having an unyielding, unshakable attachment to her duty is framed by the game EXACTLY as being the same as Sonic having his unshakable attachment to his freedom.

The game literally, figuratively and visually, put's a wall between the two because of that, because in the end, it's a Sonic/Sonic pairing, Their internal ideologies prevents both from entering a relationship, mutually.
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>>549274790
Sonic can date and even marry Rouge and not be tied down. Sonamy ties him down. Sonamy is OOC.
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>>549274790
You mad, bro?
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>at the time archie and satam started one of the only things we had to go off of is "Sonic is not a hero"
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>>549275048
What about Mephiles. Japs like to include him in the SSS.
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Maybe I should read Archie because the mere idea of Sonic being romantic at all sounds so fucktarded that its funny to me people even debate it
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>>549275116
I think everything Sega does until recently is a good example of bad marketing
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>>549275116
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NONHERO BROS????????
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>>549274779
Why? Sonic with his super speed can penetrate her before she even realizes

https://files.catbox.moe/50gtpf.png
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>>549275217
You really shouldn't. It's way worse than IDW regardless of what old boomers online say
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>>549275048
>Metal only has two skills in Rumble
>both are close to useless until they're level 5
SEGA what the fuck, give him another
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Sega and Sonic Team have the worst communication I have ever seen in the videogame industry, it's so bad that I'm actually at a loss for words for how to explain it properly.
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>>549275191
Metal is just better
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Did Archie adapt Heroes or not
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>>549275116
This kills the windfags
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>>549275446
>the slap
When people use this issue as a reference, that's how I know they didn't read the comics.
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>>549275217
the romancenic garbage is only a small fraction of the entire run. it ran for like 24 years. and the harem shoujo shit was only around 2002 - 2004. but autists here drop all that and only focus on that period
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>>549267504
Shadally was a joke involving Sally being around the characters with the game personalities instead of the comic ones that started forever ago.
We do have Hyoumaru who takes it all the way though. He is the least cursed. I like it better. The other Shadallyfag makes more game canon theme stuff but it makes me scared so I like Hyoumaru best.
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>>549275706
>When people post a good example of how stupid Archie is then it doesn't count, I can't hear you lalalalalalalala
Ok
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you know, it never occurred to me before, but Sonic really is a public figure and world-renown icon in-universe
he's probably given free food, lodging, etc on his travels as some kind of eternal gratitude
he'd have a lot more fans after him too, and not just Amy
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>>549275941
He has an official online community
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I'd suck his blue cock too
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>>549275446
You sound like you think current Sonic is by any means in a ""good"" direction.
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>>549275281
I didn't like this crossover for many reasons but I will admit there was some cute and funny scenes and gags in it like this
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>>549274836
>romance soap opera
Nta but you want to convince me romance was not at thing back then? Because if anything sonic was always corporate and like any other corporate mascot he tried to be what everything else around him was.

Mario had a princess giving him a kiss, so sonic had to get a princess giving him FULL time romance because he had to be a mascot with attitute, and the cool guy gets the girl, always. Every time people go off with muh soap opera they forget it was the 90s, a decade ruled by nakey designs from looney toons (sally inherited this) and panty shots in cartoons.
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>>549276142
Archiefags are so low IQ they actually think Sonic would want to be tied down in a relationship even though that trait is older than Sonic's first spoken word
Read the manga.
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>>549276083
Can't be worse than Sonic and Tails arguing about stealing his girlfriend
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>>549275795
The joke was SOA and SOJ fucking shit up and it was more obvious than the actual ship but the ship ended up becoming the unavoidable shitpost consequence
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>>549276173
I am curious, has this person drawn any other character than kit?
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>>549276338
Oh you're a Tailspedo. Nevermind, you lost yourself any dignity.
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>>549276338
Yeah that's REALLY weird.
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>>549275941
Sonic is basically Terry Bogard.
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>>549276245
>manga
Shit nobody cares about otherwise sega would canonize that instead of splitting in 2 like they did.
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>>549275941
>>549276070
Sonic would literally be the most famous person in the world if he was real, his fame would have a direct negative impact on his life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kHdNkAPBdw
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Kill all Bkazefags
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>>549276479
>Oh you are *insert namefag here*
You Archiefags are pathetic seriously
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>>549276558
Archiefags running out of excuses for being disgustingly OOC so they just say "no one cares"
I don't even care that much about the original manga. The point still stands that the earliest version of "windnic" appears well before Archie started going off the rails with its retarded shipping
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>>549276393
Yes
She even drew a Sonamy pic once.
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>>549276245
Sonamytard....
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Archie but Sally is replaced with Blaze = kino
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>>549276773
Damn that Silver is so cute
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>>549276773
Chanukahver...
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Sonamyfags never bother us because our pairing doesn't involve nic but why exactly are they so vicious about Sonally in particular? Sally is vaulted. She is never coming back. She can't hurt you.
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>>549276652
>>549276619
>>549276245
So which old forum did you get bullied btw?
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>>549275795
https://voca.ro/1hxN1VVxDted
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>>549276970
Sonally won in it's own canon and continuity.
I don't understand the fight honestly.
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Sonic series should cater to me
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>>549276652
You're unironically saying every writer had to be an ultra nerd who reads mangas, videogames and has merchandise at home when sega doesn't even enforce anything with mandates, including PenderCHAD.

You have LOST, as always, and the dykes into the games are cementing every hopes and dreams from japanese purists under the sea.
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>>549277158
did you reply to the wrong post on accident or is this a joke about sally being stuck in a warped jp canon
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>>549276338
>Tails bawling out like a child, showing self-doubt and being emotional
That's actually in-character and what would Toyoda write. Unleashed to Frontiers confirms this btw.
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The President and Soleil are both part of the Sonic Spotters online community.
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>>549276773
Silver silhouette does look like a star. If only Sonic fans weren't made out of weed culture Americans obsessed with drugs
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>>549276773
man people in japan really do mephiles, but thank you for showing it since i was curious, cute stuff
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>>549277343
It's a joke lel.
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>>549277627
>Sega would let them die rather than letting them take off their shoes
This is why "in character" isn't always good
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>>549277814
>Tail rape correcting Blaze
Any pics?
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>>549274912
You're right. They're complimentary opposites that work well together but can't be together. That is the entire thesis of their relationship but /sthg/ is too retarded for blatant subtext, even when the game beats them over the head with it.
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>>549277814
LOL
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>>549275795

Shadally (Hyoumaru)
Shadow is a GUN agent who works with Sally. They have lots of sex. Mostly anal. There's sweet moments. For some reason there are references to the one below.
So much porn. So much fucking porn. Tails and Rouge are fucking. Tangle and Big are fucking.

Shadally (Scribblefag)
Shadow thinks Sally is annoying and Sally is flirty. Sally rides him without realizing that he's possessed and it spirals out into deeplore shonen everythingfaggotry that requires you to have 90% knowledge on everything ever written about Sonic

Shadally (Buttermoth)
The same as Hyoumaru except Amy is turbo screwed since Sonic ends up with Surge. This one is made by a girl so it's wholesome and non violent.

Shadally (Chauvelz) Similar to Hyoumaru except it's cuter and the artist only draws porn on their alts and stopped coming here a long long time ago.

At some point Shadally ended up overtaking Sonally on the sthg booru. This is my understanding of sthg shadally histories.
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>>549271531
Boring ahh
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>>549278065
why do windfags never get mad about gay stuff why do they only get mad if sonic is fucking girls hmmmmm
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>>549277814
Did you know some plants regenerates from the roots, like the common grass?
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>>549272261
She draws cocks like PVC tubes. Other than that her works are solid 9/10
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Sega of Japan's negligence is to blame for westshit taking root in this franchise.
If they gave half a shit about how Sonic was portrayed in the west, by the west, we never would've gotten SatAM or Archie.
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>HOLY HECK ITS THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS
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>>549278167
Because adventure = testosterone = homerotic franchise
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>>549274012
>>549274124
Go back to HMOBA trash, homo
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>>549277929
>>549274912
You're not fooling anyone with this shit.
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>>549277963
Notice how Sonallyfags allowed this to happen without much protest but if Shadamy suddenly became a shitpost with 10 trillion AI images of dommy mommy Amy then Sonamyfags would wipe Shadamyfags off the face of the earth
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>>549278275
>HOLY MOLY THE RESTORATION IS HERE? AND THE DIAMOND CUTTERS TOO! AND THE RESTAURANT!
i have capeshit fatigue
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>>549278065
Fellas is it boring to have a close friendship
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>>549278167
Boys rule, girls? LAME!
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>>549278521
>THE RESTAURANT!
wut
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>>549278556
Call me when you apply this energy to M/F friendships, babe.
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>>549278637
>men cannot have a deep relationship where they show affection for one another without being called faggots
Gee I wonder why so many guys are lonely
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>>549278510
You guys make Sonamy sound way more aggressive than they are
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>>549278663
I like to mock the restoration like that. Leave an updoot saar please.
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>series for boys
>Shipping war vitriol worst then the cattiest, bitchiest, estrogeniest fandoms in existence
You guys are such fucking faggots holy shit.
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>>549278807
welcome to the sonic fandom, rookie. did you get in through the movies? or maybe frontiers?
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I don't really care about the characterization battles but in the end of the day the only IDW writer who avoids pissing off the fans (With his writing not his politics) is the one that didn't carry Archie writing quirks into IDW
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>>549278775
Men are their own worst enemy.

>>549279042
And the gender ratio here skews male, so it's pretty much grown men screeching at each other about who the blue rat fucks. Funniest thing about coming here.
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>>549279042
you say this as if the most relevant dragonball fanfiction (multiverse) isn't loaded with shipping insanity
>>549279086
Sonamyfags hate Sonally more than any other shipping faction hates another ship mainly due to mandates validating their psychosis
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>>549276773
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>>549279042
I just want to be loved
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>>549279089
Barnes the black chud is only one.
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>>549279042
The contentfag on this general who makes the most shipping content by FAR is MALE so I don't know why you're blaming estrogen. No woman here has made as much as the Sonurge AI guy.
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>>549279263
shadamy became trending in my x feed one day. i clicked the tag to see what's up. it was that sonamychannel guy and his boys having a circle melty about shadamy. they seethed so hard that it became trending on my x. sonamyfags shit on everything that "gets in the way"
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>>549279346
You have to be lovely to be loved
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Those Sonamy fans are something else.
https://voca.ro/11eAH8I5MQv4
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>>549279263
Dragon Ball's loudest subset of fans are the powerscalers, not the shippers.
The same cannot be said for Sonic.
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Can you really blame them when both sides of the company are out there to get them?
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>>549279446
Even though the fandom is emasculated to the bone
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>>549279263
Nigga who gives a fuck about niggerhypeBall. This is sonic, the COOL series, you type like a FAGGOT.

>>549279446
I'm saying shipwar faggots are so fucking gay and effeminate they're even worse than woman. It's a general full of honorary trannies.
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>>549279493
Damn, way to kick him while he's down.
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>>549279510
lmao
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>>549278510
Sonallyfags are in their 40s. Most alt shippers are younger than that and came into Sally secondary. If anything Sonallyfags are probably happy that it's not Sallicole. I just pretend it's japfag Sally even though that's made up. Sonamyfags on the other hand have had a long standing history of battling Sonally fans and that won't end until one of the two sides is destroyed (never) so they'll just keep fighting.
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Woman franchise
You are being- no, you were already replaced
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Best ship
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>>549279510
>Sonamyfags keep rubbing it into sonallyfags throats that Sonic doesn't care about romance in the videogames
>They somehow forget
>that Amy
>is from
>The videogames

Seems like a doomed situation desu
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>>549275865
>look at how ooc and dramatic Archie is
>do you know the context of the slap?
>uh no IT'S DRAMATIC AND CRINGE ARCHIE SUCKS
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>>549279963
sorry to break this to you
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>>549279806
>It's a general full of honorary trannies.
half trvth because many faggots hate trannies around here, they are just faggots nonetheless
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>>549279489
We have a shipping slapfight here like at least twice a day. There was one four hours ago. There's usually one simmering at any given moment. To be fair, some of them bring it on themselves. Part of me wants sega to just canonize x,y,z ship and put an end to it, but that would probably just make things worse. And with Ian and Evan on board you'd probably end up with some "interesting" pairings.
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>>549280153
Wrong. Robotnik loves Lucinda.
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the slap was a reasonable reaction to being faced with windnic. If your lover started acting like that creature how else are you going to respond
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>>549279861
I wasn't trying to but it's the truth. We're all flowers hoping someone picks us and we have to be appealing (read: lovely) for someone to want us and stay with us.
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>>549280250
a hedgehog works too...
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>>549280274
exactly. Sally was heartbroken at the time and Sonic in-character being windshit completely shattered her.
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>>549280095
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Arguably she is a bigger threat to Sonamy because we somehow got Sonic actively pursuing romance with her in the year 2015 which was AFTER Sega put their foot down and mandated that Archienic cannot date.
If Sticks is canon then she is too. There is a girl out there who is so attractive to Sonic that she supersedes the mandates.
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If it was really Ic sonic would be constantly pumping Amy's hole because she lets him hit it raw for free 24/7 while still acting adverse to being in a committed relationship with him
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I just had a dream where Shadow threatened to molest Tails and I blame you assholes for it
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>>549280542
Jokes aside, this is what Sonamyfags believe unironically.
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>>549279906
>Sonallyfags are in their 40s.
*Sonamyfags
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>>549280593
Didn't know there were Shadailsfags here, at least openly.
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>>549280465
The Sonamyfag argument would be that any version of Sonic from the games would never have given Sally a shot in the first place, so the pairing is out of character. Windfags, JPFags, and game purists will back them up on this argument.

The issue, of course, is that it also is a problem for Amy
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>>549279906
>>549280673
These two are not mutually exclusive.
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>>549280616
True, in reality he'd be too busy pumping Cream full.
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>>549280703
https://voca.ro/17knchzrmpLj
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>>549280968
Oh hey look randal is back
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>>549280703
Except that one time sonic can agree to a date.
And that one time he laments not making a move on Amy when he had the chance.
And all of x (directly overseen by Sega JP)
And that one time he goes on a date with Amy in sonic channel.
And that one time sonic and Amy's jp va's sang a love song duet.
And that one t-
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>>549280968
I genuinely think Sonamyfags use the other factions (Wind/JP/Game-only) as like their own personal pokemon to attack anything that seems OOC.
The thing is if Sonamyfags ever succeeded in driving out all other Sonic shipperfags off of the internet they would immediately become meat for windfags and it would be like a buffet unseen since biblical times
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>>549281034
I sure am.
>>549281169
They're gluttons for punishment that's for sure.
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>>549281129
Sonamyfags keep pointing out that Sonic agrees to date but ignore that in all of the games and japanese content he never actually goes on the date. Something either comes up and gives him an excuse to escape or he literally just doesn't go. You've had twenty years of consistency on this one and that's not something that can be said about most characters. The only Sonic Amy has a "chance" with doesn't consider romance a priority.
Really? They sang a fucking duet? wow I guess that must mean they are dating. Nah bitch.
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I like Metamy. It's OOC for them but I think it's cute.
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>>549281309
Okay? It's still more than any other ship that exist. Sonamy is Sega JP endorsed, everything else is fanfiction. For funsies. Not possible to be made canon in any foreseeable reality unlike Sonamy.
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>>549281129
>Except that one time sonic can agree to a date.
Sonic did that to shut up Amy about going on a date, simply as, and he didn't came anyway.

>And that one time he laments not making a move on Amy when he had the chance.
When?

>And all of x (directly overseen by Sega JP)
All licensing media ever made and in our hands has been always overseen by Sega JP. 101 licensing basics, retard.

>And that one time he goes on a date with Amy in sonic channel.
Wow and would you look at how Sonic feels right at that moment on the very Sonic Channel art it has in.

>And that one time sonic and Amy's jp va's sang a love song duet.
VAs =| actual characters, Junichi liked gay porn one time and that's not Sonic character.
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>>549281709
>he actually thinks windfags would tolerate the idea of Sonic going on little dates with amy onscreen and doing errands for her and cuddling with her
>he doesn't see this ending in actual homicides
You do not know your own allies
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Kinda think blaze is the best girl for sonic but obviously that will never happen and it'd kind of feel out-of-place with the natural conclusion to Amy's narrative. Unless they manage to do something with her and shadow that doesn't feel hamfisted.
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>>549281712
>When?
Frontiers.

And don't be a disingenuous faggot you know what I mean by overseen by Sega JP. Sonic X was had direct input by Sega JP unlike Archie and their third Reich echidnas.
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I'm yearning
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I think Sonamyfags should THANK Sonallyfags for being so western and different that it leaves windfags blind to the crimes of Sonamyfags
>B-b-b-b-but Sonamy is said to be canon ba Yakazki Shitbutt
If I google "Sonamy" right now literally all of the art is OOC. the windfags will rip you apart for that shit byebye
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>>549281792
Don't put words in my mouth like you put cocks in yours homo. Sonic having a girlfriend who worships the ground he walks on sounds cool as hell to me I don't see why people should have a problem with it. Maybe if they're insecure unfuckable losers they'd be able to relate to sonic being one too but I think he's too cool for that.
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>>549282183
sonic doesn't want someone to worship the ground he walks on, because he doesn't walk, he runs.
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>>549282028
>Sonic X was had direct input by Sega JP
Is there any actual evidence to this? Sonic X seems at odds with 06 documents.
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Speaking of Archie's mischaracterization of Sonic, I once read a what-if scenario where Archie!Sonic had the personality of Game!Sonic. He would have never been part of the FF, being more interested in adventure instead, would have been less of an asshole so no horrible relationship periods with Tails, Sally, Silver and etc, would have never entertained any of the romances (but girls would have still pined after him).

Would you be interested in this version of Archie comic?
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>>549282028
as much as SatAM.
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When it comes to IC or OOC, are pics of the boys crossdressing OOC? Or does it depend on which boy?
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>>549282372
https://voca.ro/1mlPAcP3cLaF
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>>549282372
Nah. Not because I would dislike it but putting gamenic (ANY gamenic) in archie would end up derailing Archie at a very early point and the entire story would be different.
That would be an interesting read but it wouldn't even be a rewrite at that point. It's like if you swapped Man of Steel Superman and Gunn Superman. a pivotal part of the story has been removed
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>>549281996
>Kinda think blaze is the best girl for sonic
Don't see them in a long-term relationship. I like the idea of it starting and ending with a one-off kiss initiated by Blaze with Sonic having no idea what to do with.
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>>549282397
>Consulted
>E-excuse sir c-c-c-can we give sonic a girlfriend?"
>"Sure whatever white piggy, it doesn't matter just make us money. Your shit won't be in the games anyways"
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>>549281996
Blaze is literally engineered to foil windshit Sonic, down to her elemental themes.

Doesn't works on any other version, it has to be the very specifically, the freedom addicted, aloof, slightly emotionally stoic one of the games.

She has the "like the other" problem solved on debut, while replacing it for a "be together" problem that is a whole different thing altogether.
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>>549282470
>he adopted the clerks moniker
I KNEEL
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>>549282470
My bad, I never read post-genesis Archie.
>>549282520
Could be a fun fanfic though.
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>>549282470
nta but not quite. Post genesis wave cuts out the romance but sonic is still a freedom fighter. The latter wouldn't happen with gamenic.

Also the genesis wave wasn't the reason sonally died. Sonic Team told them to stop that years prior to the reboot. Ian detailed it on Bumblekast. If the reboot didn't happen, preboot Sonic would eventually have become windnic and Sally would have to effectively watch her boyfriend regress into a videogame character.

Sounds pretty bleak honestly.
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>>549282456
Sonic crossdressed a lot
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>>549282753
>no gloves
lewd!
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>>549282740
>regress
Game Sonic is far better than Archie Sonic though.
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>>549282626
>headbutts into archie anyways 20 years later
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>>549282753
How does /sthg/ feel about AOSTH?
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>>549273448
I'm very rusty. Needs work
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>>549282929
That's because sonic is an autism magnet and archievictems refuse to let their trauma go, now everyone else has to deal with them forever or until they finally die
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I think people (Especially sonamytards) seriously undersetimate how unwilling to be a boyfriend Game! Sonic is. If someone enthusiastically says "NO WAY!" every time you ask that is not good.

Sonic has two creators. One says he has a permanent boys heart and that's why he won't date Amy, the other simply said he is not the kind of guy that gets married.
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>>549282626
>"He already has a (self proclaimed) girlfriend."
>"Wait, I thought that was his sister."
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>>549283045
It's so disgusting
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>>549283045
I prefer paws
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>>549282560
>>549282665
The ship has the idea that they can't be together embedded pretty explicitly in the canon dynamics, it's not a bug, it's a feature.
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Shadally is wind allowed? Or am I missing something?
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>>549282740
https://voca.ro/1KD3AamHFPHK
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>>549283106
I love Marine so much
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>>549283013
Tip: make them move in a circle (one different direction from the other of course)
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>>549283073
Amy didn't become canon until after SatAM started airing
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>>549282626
Something like that, but was more like
>we are making a sonic cartoon, care to see it
>ok
>bunch of westerners talking shit they don`t understand and showing some drawings
>ok naisu naisu, just let me go back to work now whitu piggu, we are the only ones doing something here so stop wasting our time
>oooh what a great consultation
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>>549283261
Windfags fundamentally do not understand Sonic, only the idea of sonic.
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>>549281996
Blaze is the worst thing that happened to Sonic actually, she literally forces him to stop being the wind and become some sort of a fucking therapist, his iconic "just a guy who likes adventure" won't work with her at all.
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>>549283302
I'll have to try adding some circular motion next time I do something like this, Ty
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>>549283045
>>549283176
Just think of it like your abdomen going in when you breath.
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>>549282665
These sentences makes sense to Blazefags btw.
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>>549283303
Sonic CD release almost the same time as SatAm on September 1993.
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>>549269914
Fuck off Woefag
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>>549283000
One of my favorites!
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>>549281536
None of these words are in bible
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>>549283281
I would love a marine live with me
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>>549283430
I am struggling to understand any of this honestly. The idea that JPfags are okay with this ship is funny to me. I must be misunderstanding some in joke
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>>549283303
CD release date:
JP: September 23, 1993
EU: October 1993
NA: November 23, 1993
SatAM:
September 18, 1993 –
December 3, 1994
You are correct, but there was lots of going on behind the scenes during that time. Of course for most of the public Sonic's girlfriend was Sally who was pink hedgehog in games for some reason instead of chipmunk.
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>>549283240
Perfect. Sonic is busy with adventure and blaze is busy with her kingdom. Every so often they go see each other. Probably the best case scenario for ship with sonic.

>can't be together embedded pretty explicitly in the canon dynamics, it's not a bug, it's a feature.
Guess we know where "tanabata" came from with her and silver
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Stop being gay
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>>549283280
I agree with all this. Basically what happened with Charmy. Sega demanded that he starts acting like his videogame counterpart even though Archie Charmy is in his late teens, so the comic had to give him brain damage.
Now every single time preboot Charmy did something "in character' the other characters have to wince and frown because what they are actually seeing is their close friend suffer severe mental illness. Windnic in preboot would be the same thing but worse.
Archie ending in issue 125 would have been solid and avoided a lot of drama and hell.
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Amy should get back with Dexter instead
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I don't understand the appeal of Archie, it's a such a mess of a comic book. How does it still have fans?
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>>549283867
SatAM has been in production much earlier.
Archie started in 1992 and it had SatAM's cast and setting.
the first mention of Sally was in SoA bible in 1991. 1 day after the game released. tho not as a gf. just a friend.
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>>549283867
Sonic \CD was conceived purely by SEGA and not STI which was working closely with the westerns dev who conceived Sally. They had no idea of the western canon. So Amy, the pink hedgehog was something they had on japanese side only from Sonic friends that were also on the manga.
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>>549284012
Salamy party franchise, by gay for gays
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>Mischaracterized Sally to the point that her creator was an actual enemy of the head writer
>Mischaracterized Sonic to the point that he is unrecognizable if you play the games
>Mischaracterized Silver so bad that the effects bled into IDW
I don't see a single positive of Archie even if you are a westfag
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>>549284012
NO!
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>>549283958
>Every so often they go see each other.
That's the problem when they "see each other" Sonic is forced to do so, and he has to be very out of character to just hold a fucking conversation with her, else Blaze is just blatantly forces herself somewhere in his world with no reasons whatsoever, the ship just doesn't work because the character is just a leech that they demand a lot.
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>>549284012
no
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I feel bad for archievictems, imagine having your entire sonic worldview painted by such a vastly inferior character, story and setting. That's why I don't trust Ian. He can pretend he isn't an Archievictem but he clearly is, it stains he work
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archie if penders did not sue apparently:
>WHoah Sally, suddenly I don't care about love YAHOO but I do wanna go on a WILD adventure YEAH time to ROCK AND ROLL SEE YA GOTTA BATTLE mcNOSEHAIR
>What happened to the man i love
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>>549284168
>I don't understand the appeal of Sonic, it's a such a mess of a game franchise. How does it still have fans?
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>>549284312
I like the lore
>but mmuh characterization
i hate the slap and romancenic (small fraction of a 24 year old comic). but that's it. really.
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>>549284092
Archie ending in 50 would've saved even more.
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>>549282665
I hate Ian's Sonic and Blaze because Sonic acts like a tool.

>>549283642
Rush is the source of the "Sonic is like the wind" quote. Blaze was made as a foil to a Sonic characterization that no longer exists.
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>>549284501
Shadow if French
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>>549284318
Why is Tails so gay?
Cease.
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>>549284392
>victem
?
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>>549284352
I mean I like it but I'm not really a sonazefag so I can't really comment much on her being a leech. I think that's more of a perspective thing.
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Gamenic has been written like complete shit since 2003.
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>>549284012
Nah.
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People actually like Marine?
>>549284092
https://voca.ro/1cj7XGA6gT07
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>>549220253
ic + kino + he would say this + saved + Toyoda/some-other-weekly-ching-ling-ding-dong-crooked-teeth-yellow-fever-intern-business-man-I'm-supposed-to-know would write this

Thanks! I just love the perfect blending of a deep manly voice acting with sightly mimicking Mark Ballou's tone. He just sounds so perfect, like puberty did him so well. Perfect late pre-reboot jacket Rotor/goggles Rotor impression, spectacular shit.

Would it be swell if I asked for more of that Rotor voice acting you just did next time you ask for requests? Hoping it won't be stagnating, ofc.

>>549273710
Hi good friend. :>

>Sonic simply doesn't appeal to otaku or kemonoGODS
I think Sonic would be in a much cozier place were it mainly on just big men like Vector, Big, Storm, Rotor, Zavok and others, a good deterrent to awful barely adult whiny teen fans.
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>>549284501
I think voice anon was correct about that point he made that as time goes on archie will fade and its characterizations will be less familiar to younger generations who will then knee-jerk shout "OOC" without really thinking about the context.
Romancenic is a good example. That will never ever happen again. Even if kids go back and rediscover Archie, which often happens, many of them will see it as just as strange as when normal animals appear in old pokemon episodes.
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>>549284879
sonadow is just as bad as sonamy
they turn Sonic into Amy and make Shadow softer, it's so annoying
baby's first yaoi
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>>549284806
I'm dyslexic
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>>549284879
Stop anon, I can't masturbate again today
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>>549284886
>People actually like Marine?
Yes, because she's.... adorable and amusing in non-carnal way.
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>>549283013
holy SEX NOOW
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>>549284697
>Rush is the source of the "Sonic is like the wind" quote.
He's not acting like the fucking wind in rush wake up, he's acting like a parent. Blaze was not made to be a foil, she's just stole Knuckles and Shadows personality, stole Tails lore and got a sonic world but "reversed", that doesn't make her the "reversed", that just makes her a deviant art oc
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>>549284886
Why wouldn't they? She has massive milkers.
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>>549284352
I think that's the point most people didn't consider.

That's how Game Sonic acts when he is sorta interested in someone, very close or almost the same as he acts with Elise.

He is aloof and kind of doesn't gives much of a shit, and instead likes to take the girl and drag her around at Mach 2 through scenic vistas, eat something together and play the emotional therapist, we see him doing this with characters he is emotionally attached to (Elise, Blaze, Chip)

Arguably that's exactly what romancing windshit Sonic looks like.
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>>549284989
I see. Which is the victim, the comic fans or comic haters?
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>>549284886
>People actually like Marine?
Yeah, she is a cute and funny character that constrasts Blaze.
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>>549268965
>Megan
>No Sally
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>>549268965
I can't wait to get my dirty hands on this game.
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>>549285082
>she's just stole Knuckles and Shadows personality
And it's just being an introvert.
>stole Tails lore
....What?
>got a sonic world but "reversed"
Parallel worlds is nothing new and I don't see why Blaze is getting flack for this. It's something that gives her a unique relationship to Sonic.
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>>549283000
I love it.
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>>549273545
so do they make out in this movie or what
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I JUST WANT TO SEE SALLY CLEARLY
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>>549285016
>>549285142
>>549285271
https://voca.ro/1boOcozc0ZyM
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>>549285557
Your voice sounds familiar.
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>>549284123
I am dexter.
Artist name?
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>>549284194
Oh well, the Sonic manga was also released on 1992 and Sonic CD was on production since before the release of SEGA CD on 1991, since it started as a port of Sonic 1.
But this will go nowhere because tit was two different canons and the japanese side didn't know and didn't care about the western side canon.
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>>549284987
I don't really like that Sonadow, I like when they beat the shit out of each other and don't change themselves, but there's not much of that.
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>>549285557
I'll listen it later when I'm in more private area.
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>>549285245
Wrong, Sonic acting towards Chip and Elise was very natural and extremely aloof almost relaxing like, towards Blaze he gets all concerned, chained, methodical as if he's a teacher in a class, and then he beats the shit out of her and for some reason that works to make her understand. he never did this to anyone he's bluntly being ooc to push up Blaze for us to give a fuck about.
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>>549285618
I frequent another general on /vg.
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>>549284849
This. Shadow's introduction unironically neutered him.
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Isn't it great that everyone loves Amy now? All she had to do was not be Amy anymore
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>>549284168
The whole franchise is a mess but Archie is more organized.
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>>549284886
About that final point. I do not like IDW at all. I am very much put off by the differences between it and the games, but I don't like to pick on IDW fans because it's just not for me.

It must be utter hell being an IDW fag especially after issue 50. I have not seen a single issue of IDW come out that didn't come with autistic screeching about how OOC it is and how Sega needs to mandate it more and fire Ian Flynn aside from the Barnes issues. I can imagine there are people who just want to enjoy that particular comic but it exists in a post-mandate environment where fans treat anything they see OOC like a strike against their holy traditions
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>>549285557
https://voca.ro/14Xjzp7ZGsKk
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>>549285825
NTA /utdrg/?
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Amy!!
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>>549286235
A happy cuck!!
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I do not believe that Evan deserves to be treated as the devil for writing Silver "OOC"
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>>549277627
...wh
what is the context of this?
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>>549285948
>>549285948
https://voca.ro/18WWgk4buxMx
>>549286103
I laughed
>>549286175
Yeah.
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>>549286391
Commission money.
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>>549285557
>he doesn't know about marine's massive mammaries
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>>549286346
I wonder why Amyfags get so aggressive and then i remember some of you guys actively set them off because you think their shipping autism is funny
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>>549285917
Games are a fun mess, Archie has some weird out of left field shit thta reads like bad fanfiction. I am not against weird stuff or inaccurate characterization to games - I like Fleetway Sonic - but Archie feels more like an original comic wearing a mangled skinsuit of Sonic.
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>>549286486
Oh then that's fine.
If you're getting paid, then yeah.
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>>549286486
Didn't he acknowledge that what he was making was fetish shit and he did not give a fuck?
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>>549284392
>>549284312
>>549284168
>>549282872
What has got Sonamyfaggots so pissy lately now?
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>>549285510
>And it's just being an introvert.
A guardian, serious, stoic, angry, grumpy, gloomy, loner, with fire powers that can be projectiles,
>....What?
"I'm bullied because i'm different"
>Parallel worlds is nothing new and I don't see why Blaze is getting flack for this.
Because it's retardingly child levels of creative material, it's immediately glued out of nowhere and makes her so undeserved to be Sonics equal
> It's something that gives her a unique relationship to Sonic.
Again lazy, undeserved and out of nowhere, you can't just build a relationship between a character and his cardboard cut out
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>>549286453
yeah idw is now mandated to have 3 issue arcs so that comic is basically fucked. it's a comic that doesn't want to be a comic.
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>>549286453
>mandates kill all creativity
That's just a skill issue. If you can't write a static character with an already established personality, you shouldn't be writing for popular media at all.

And IDW can put out fun stuff, see: classic issues, scrapnik islands, recent chaotix anniversary comic.
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Oh shit
Oh damn
I'm...I'm gonna post it...!
Oh fug here it comes

SHADRIA
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>IDW now forced to have short arcs
>The writing staff are open about the fact that they are intimidated by the fans
>it took over a year to come up with mandates for a Shadow issue so they just deleted the entire script
I really don't care if the sight of Sonic doing something OOC makes your eyes bleed, it is not possible to tell interesting stories with all of this pressure
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>>549285510
>And it's just being an introvert.
I like how Blazefags don't even know who the fuck Blaze is, being an introvert means you DON'T want to be around people, that's just Knuckles and Shadow alone, Blaze cannot handle that and constantly wants and appreciates being around others, She's very much an extrovert but she's a pussy about it.
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>>549286562
Why would you turn down money? You're actively not getting paid for the sake of fictional characters. That's fucking stupid.
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>>549286534
>feels more like an original comic wearing a mangled skinsuit of Sonic.
But enough about IDW.
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>>549286698
>>549286902
https://voca.ro/196abYvglcUO
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>>549286524
I don't know about the rest of those anons but I am not aggressive at all (if anything I try to be nice), especially when I don't really care for shipping at all? so the cuck posts truly mean nothing to me when I just like the cute pink rat.
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Nobody cares.
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>>549286534
>Archie has some weird out of left field shit thta reads like bad fanfiction
Shadow, 06 also reads like bad fanfiction.
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>>549287129
Never denied that
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>>549286935
/sthg/ wanted IDW to be on brand. There is nothing more on brand than Sonic stories being bland and uninteresting. You reap what you sow.
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>>549287261
Forces is the poster child for bad fanfiction that somehow became the writing for an actual game.
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>>549285557
God, you sound like every generic discord nerd I've ever heard trying to sound cool.
It's honestly really grating.
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>>549286698
>>549287215
Source about the 3 issue arcs mandate? First time hearing about it.
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>>549287370
You mean the one Toyoda supervised and approved?
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>>549286623
>A guardian,... with fire powers that can be projectiles
Not attributable to personality traits.
>serious, stoic, angry, grumpy, gloomy, loner
Nothing wrong with sharing these because the reasons are not the same. She's also not gloomy or grumpy.
>I'm bullied because i'm different
Again, nothing wrong with this as the reasons and context are different.
>it's retardingly child levels of creative material
>retardingly
Anyway, nothing in Sonic is particular profound. If anything, Blaze and the tropes she carries are par the course.
>you can't just build a relationship between a character and his cardboard cut out
They were doing just fine in Rush and Rush Adventure.

>>549286938
>being an introvert means you DON'T want to be around people
That's asocial. Introverts do like socializing, they just approach it differently. But go off, I guess.
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>>549286928
What would their kid look like?
A blonde hedgehog?
A human with shadow features/powers?
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Introvert vs extrovert is about energy, if being around people recharges or exhausts you.

Sonic is sociable but he loves fucking off alone.
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>>549287451
Then don't listen to me. I use vocaroo links so I don't fill the thread with PARAGRAPHS of my ramblings.
>>549287498
I would like a source too. I was just reacting if that was the case. Either way the current mandates prevent any real story anyway.
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She's now replying to herself, the desperation.
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>>549287726
No one cares about you, Evan.
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>>549287882
who
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I wonder if Sonic keeps running away from romance, Shadow keeps social interactions at minimum and Silver is mixed bag because of someone at Sega hearing about the hedgehog syndrome and decided to apply it literally?
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>>549286928
>>549287671
Lmao samefag
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>>549287671
blonde hedgehog
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>>549288089
nah it's cause liking girls is gay
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What are status effects to put in a Sonic RPG?
Burning, Sleep, Stopped (For chaos control), Frozen cause that happens a few times in Sonic games, pregnant, Traumatized (Whisper would have it permanently), Would lightning give a status effect? Probably just burning, poisoned or sick, Maybe shrink since that happens in CD and Mania.
I can't think of anything else that happens to the characters.
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>>549285835
Sonic was written fine in SA2, if anything Shadow's presence in the story elevated Sonic's and vice versa.
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>>549288089
No, shipping and autism is what keeps the brand afloat. So they don`t make romance cannon because if one turned into actual canon it would kill the shipping autism.
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>>549288193
A little girl blonde hedgehog.
Would she wear blue like her mother?
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>>549286935
>>549287356
People are still trying to recover from the Meta Era, hence why there's many complaints about what's OOC or not.
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>>549288453
charmed, bound, hypnotized (normal), paralyzed, shrunken, enlarged, hypnotized (bimbo)
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I want an all girls game.
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>>549288657
>can't pretend to listen to music and block everyone out
Over-the-ear headphones will always be superior.
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>>549287772
What is 'real story' for you? If you mean a big overarching plot like Archie's, then I don't think I am gonna agree. Short self-contained stories work better with the franchise and a character like Sonic.

And I am gonna disagree with it being kiddie shit too. Of course a 'for all audiences franchise' like Sonic's can't have adult themes, so by design they'd be more tame. But it doesn't mean the core uplifting message of Sonic doesn't have its appeal.
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>>549288453
Roboticized (Eggman-boss exclusive status)
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>>549284123
Timothy Dexter?
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>>549288776
*all girls, and Silver.

ftfy
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>>549288510
That's the exception, not the rule. Sonic as a character becomes bland immediately after SA2.
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>>549287550
>Not attributable to personality traits.
Still stealing character traits with nothing original
>Nothing wrong with sharing these because the reasons are not the same. She's also not gloomy or grumpy.
>Again, nothing wrong with this as the reasons and context are different.
It's redundant, boring and over-shadows other characters, it is utterly wrong as if you introduced a nerd character whos inspired by Sonic, why would we need that again?
>Anyway, nothing in Sonic is particular profound.
Notice how you dropped your mask on being a Sonicfag
>If anything, Blaze and the tropes she carries are par the course.
Which are either stolen or nothing interesting and important
>They were doing just fine in Rush and Rush Adventure.
Because all of them were out-of-character to boost Blaze, because she was the creator waifu, why do you think she doesn't work anymore and her character needs to butchered for her to fit in? because she never did.
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>>549287550
Nta but i believe introverts are more energetic when they're alone, Blaze never shows that trait, she's more energetic around others. you're mixing shyness with introversion, common mistake.
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Is there an updated archive of the chronicles fangame.
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You guys suck, I am going back to Tumblr.
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The new IDW mandate sucks.
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>>549288453
Super, obviously. Temporary immunity to damage for one turn
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>>549288708
Enlarged might be hard to implement...
You would have to have a large sprite for all of the characters.
does charm really add anything that hypnotized doesn't? I would just assume they both make you attack your allies.
>>549288850
That might be impossible. Making a robot sprite of every single character in the game.
And even then, it just makes you attack other players.
>>549289479
I wasn't even going to make that a state, just a transformation/class change.
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>>549282872
>blank slate vs. flawed flanderized character
And no, I'm not gonna look to your reposted cherry picked pages.
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>>549289468
YOU GUYS WHINED FOR IT FOR YEARS!
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>>549289549
I never cared. I just know it's going to slowly kill off the comic.
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>>549289718
>it's going to slowly kill off the comic.
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YOU GUYS WHINED FOR THAT FOR YEARS
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>>549288970
>why would we need that again?
Why not? Like I said, context matters. If you boil it down and leave it at just being the archetype, then sure I can see your point. But that's not the case here.
>Notice how you dropped your mask on being a Sonicfag
How? For saying Sonic as a franchise has been utilizing well-worn writing tropes since the beginning?
>Because all of them were out-of-character to boost Blaze
I personally don't see it. None of the other cast outside Tails and Cream were truly present enough for that.

>>549289107
Yeah, that's something I understand but got lost in responding to everything else. I'd argue she does lean more towards introversion, but I concede shyness is a better descriptor.
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Blaze was simple, a girl character that had some lore to take seriously.

At the time they only had Amy being played as a joke, being angry and too silly all the time, and Rouge being HAHA boobs and saxophone, which was also very lacking of narrative elements, Tikal was a slightly updated tutorial voiceover when she could have had more narrative focus.

Meanwhile Shadow had motivations, goals, Backstory, Gerald, Maria, a rivalship with Sonic and so and so on.

Blaze got a "Shadow-ish" shonen debut as a Sonic rival-clone + anime tsundere arc, isn't amazing but it is at least some lore to get attached to, compared to the fuck all the games had as character lore for everyone else, it was just as much content as we could have expected back then.
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>>549289532
> just a transformation/class change
I was thinking about that for Werehog
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>>549284012
Spooning your mobian homie isn't gay
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>>549289802
I never cared. I never read the comics. I did want them to be good.
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Is Meta Sonic still in Frontiers?
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>>549286539
Sauce?
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>>549288943
I don't care, I know that SA2 is an exception to the rule, that's the problem, it shouldn't be an exception, the rule shouldn't be that Sonic's character writing is of poor quality, and yet, it is.
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>>549288453
Drowned
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>>549289718
The serialized format sucks. The longer arc format is unfeasible since they've all demonstrated they can't/ won't communictate nor plan long term. The shorter arc format is the only chance at being good.
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>cucks ur hero
>nothing personnel, kid
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>>549290312
I agree, but it's still a shame in my eyes.
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>>549289945
>I never cared. I never read the comics.
But you care now all of a sudden? Yeah right.
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>>549290380
You can keep the dead oc no one cares, necrophilie..
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I really think it's a small coordinated bunch of Sonamyfags astrosurfing Archie hate here. It's unnatural because no one was ever really talking about Archie and now it's silent.

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>>549284312
These posts aren't natural. All perfectly posted within a timeframe.
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>>549290457
I can feel bad for others. And I was going to check them out eventually. Especially if they improved.
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>>549290301
Knack the Weasel
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In general I think a lot of mandates are stupid.
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>>549290761
Stop the cap, Cappy.
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>>549290301
Post the one where he's just waking up.
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>>549290380
Based
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>>549291218
Which ones?
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>>549289853
The joke around Amy was at Sonic's expense, before the pedobait piece of shit character Cream showed up and stole the drama potential that Amy already had
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>>549290380
>Sally
I'd check up with doctor after fucking this busted hoe
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>>549291336
I think the only the hedgehogs can go super rule is dumb even if I can see the reasons. It's mostly just minor things. This series does need to control it's writers. I don't know how much the mandates control the games themselves.
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>>549291218
Good thing 99% of them are made up by Ian Flynn
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>>549289829
>Why making the same shit again isn't good? if you look deeper it will be different
That doesn't fucking matter, look at my example, another nerd character who likes Sonic, maybe the context is that he watches reddit, but that's just another Tails at the end of the day, it will overshadow him when he's around and you'll find nothing new to do with him that Tails didn't do already. same shit with Blaze and lots of other characters.
>Sonic as a franchise has been utilizing well-worn writing tropes since the beginning
If that was the case why is this new trope of shitaze the cat is not just irrelevant but the writers want it gone? because other tropes are far more better.
>I personally don't see it.
Amy is being riders Amy,Cream is supporting a fucking terrorist that is attacking Sonic, Tails is being a side character rather than a sidekick, Knuckles is just there to job, and Sonic becomes a parent, all of them are mutated forever just to boost a one off character.
>>549289853
Blaze isn’t a “rival” or a “clone” she’s a poorly handled copy, her debut in Sonic Rush was shallow, her so-called “lore” is just rushed melodrama and clumsy shonen tropes that they're all stolen from other characters. She’s not deep she’s boring, why do you think the most popular thing about her is shipping? it's because she's a girl, remove that and she's nothing.
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>>549268965
>VF characters are in
https://files.catbox.moe/ldojvp.mp4

Scribbles, you are the only light in the darkness that is /sthg/ Stay beautiful.
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>>549291816
I hope so.
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>>549291743
>I think the only the hedgehogs can go super rule is dumb even if I can see the reasons
That one isn't true.

https://www.tumblr.com/lore-of-mobius/785914526435606528/only-male-hedgehogs-can-go-super-debunked?source=share
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>>549292291
>tumblr
Yeah right. I’ll believe it when I see someone else go super (we won’t)
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>>549292291
None of the mandates are "true", i.e exist without contradictory evidence, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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>>549292505
Trip?
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>>549292615
No.
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>>549292587
Dragon is different. I’m mainly thinking of Tails and Knuckles
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>>549292505
>tumblr
Here is a short version if you don't wanna visit. Kishimoto himself said he never heard of such rule, so no, that mandate isn't true.
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>>549289853
>Blaze was simple,
Kek
> a girl character
Lol
>that had some lore
Rofl
>to take seriously.
LMAO
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>>549292574
>doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Yes it does? The fandom is filled with ideas of fake mandates like the Shadow being stupid during the metal virus arc.
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>>549292827
>Kishimoto himself said he never heard of such rule,
Why would he, none of the games he makes star anyone but Sonic.
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>>549291967
Bro, none of them are deep at all, that's kind of the point.

Tails formula is Sonic + Kid + Flight
Knuckles formula is Sonic - Speed + strength
Metal is Sonic + Robot
Amy is Sonic + Minnie Mouse
Shadow is Sonic + Emo + Angst
Blaze is Sonic + Rival + Tsundere

It was never deep, they are all Sonic clones in some way or another.
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>>549292978
cope
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>>549292978
I have to agree, there's nothing simple or serious about her i remember one day i understood her then i completely forgot about it the next, that and the way anon said it was cruel as if other characters never had some lore.
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>>549293125
Ok, but the claim of the mandate itself has no source. No one in SEGA said that only male hedgehogs can go super
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>>549292827
As far as I’m concerned that’s the only reason Silver would have one but not Tails or Knuckles. I don’t care if they deny it when asked, they can lie
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>>549293291
Pretty sure Iizuka did, this isn't something we made up al by ourselves
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>>549293161
>Gives Blaze only the rival title
Try not to be disanguous Blazefag.
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>>549293296
That's still fanon and not supported by official sources.
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So Blaze haters are just seething at basic tropes like parallel universe and tsunderes now?
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>>549293360
That's the thing, the post where the fake mandate comes from says Iizuka said it, but provides no source. The fandom gaslighted itself into believing that Iizuka made that claim.
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>>549293161
Tails formula is Sonic + Kid + Flight
Knuckles formula is Sonic - Rival + Speed + strength
Metal is Sonic + Rival+ Robot
Amy is Sonic + Minnie Mouse
Shadow is Sonic + Rival + Emo + Angst
Blaze is Sonic + dumbass girl
fify.
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>>549291743
The power of going super is stored in the balls. Now go make me a sandwich woman
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>>549293558
>So people just hate childish tropes and half assed character writing?
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>>549293552
I hate rotor, bara, etc as well, but this is just obnoxious.
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Blazefags are exactly like Blaze, they'll push down everyone to make her look good, no one is a rival except her, her story is weak because everyone else is, she got better lore and personality because no one else does,...
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Stop already with the blaze debates you spergs
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Yeah sure, Tails and Knuckles got wrapped up in bubbles in Heroes rather than turning Super DESPITE the fact SA2 confirming the emeralds can turn multiple people Super at one time was just for no reason

Iizuka was just feeling silly that day is all

fuck off
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>>549293492
Well until I get an “official” reason that’s what I’m going with
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I just think Blaze is neat
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>>549293820
>childish tropes
Sonic has always been basic-ass tropes. The parallel universe stuff only factors into her relationship with Sonic; she can just show up when that's not the focus.
>half assed
Her arc is fine.
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>>549294256
I think Sega should just give her off to adult content so they can finally make money off of her.
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>>549294256
Tsundere Blaze is so cute, I wish she was real.
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Oh fuck, is it 2020 again?
Is the roto bara/vorefag and archie schizo back?
That's fucking crazy.
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>>549294243
But non-hedgehogs characters have super forms too. Trip, Mecha and Metal Sonic, Gemerl
>inb4 they don't look super
Doesn't mean they aren't super forms.

Don't spread your fanon claiming that SEGA mandated only super hedgehogs.
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>>549294375
>Sonic has always been basic-ass tropes
Stop pulling everything down to keep yourself up retard
> The parallel universe stuff only factors into her relationship with Sonic;
just respect is not a relationship, and no the parallel universe only factors to make her feel strong which she miserably failed at
>she can just show up when that's not the focus.
Which is every time because it was never the focus, the focus is to force her to be popular in any way possible even making her Sonics new love interest
>Her arc is fine.
It's illogical and a worse version of Tails.
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>>549294230
But Shitver gets to go super immediately…can’t believe people think Sonic Team isn’t racist
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It's extra mayonnaise in these generals lately
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>>549294809
Much like herpes, schizos never go away, they just flare up at irregular intervals.
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>>549294809
I wasn't aware rotorfag was also a vorefag? But I was aware of his barafaggotry.
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>>549294913
>But Shitver gets to go super immediately
And THAT right there was the straw that broke the camels back. Fucking Silver gets to go Super but Knuckles can't? Tails can't? Despite the fact that THEY LITERALLY DID in the Genesis games?

Fuck right off Sonic Team.
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>>549295159
Maybe I'm miss remembering, it has been years and not something you should consider worth remembering. But I remember there was some higher level fetish at play.
this is all considering these are the same fags.
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A tsundere rival for Sonic is kinda what people think Surge is in fanon, but Surge actually doesn't really likes Sonic at all.
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>>549295363
>, but Surge actually doesn't really likes Sonic at all.
Yet.
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>>549289628
Fatty stole Shahra's hairstyle
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>A tsundere is a popular Japanese character archetype, especially in anime and manga, that describes someone who is initially cold, harsh, or even hostile (the "tsun-tsun" part) but gradually reveals a warm, soft, and affectionate (the "dere-dere" part) side, often reserved for a love interest or close friends. They struggle to express true feelings, often masking kindness with insults or tough exteriors, making their eventual sweetness a rewarding moment for audiences.
Is this really the whole personality of Blaze?
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>NOOOOO YOUR SHIP BAAD MY SHIP GOOD NOOOO
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>>549295858
>character archetype
So she never had a character from the very beginning?
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>>549295858
Ye
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>>549295858
In DDLC tems Blaze is Yuri, Surge is Natsuki, Amy is Monika and Sayori is Tails hope that helps making it clearer.
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>>549296551
Why would anyone remember who these fucks are?
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>>549296510
The same way Tails is Gohan, Shadow is Vegeta and Knuckles is Piccolo.

Everything and everyone is just a simple archetype.
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>>549296551
And just like Natsuki, Surge doesn't get an actual ending to her story line. You hate to see it.
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This general grows more unhinged every day
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>>549296551
>Blaze is Yuri
checks out
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https://youtu.be/u21FUSknOxQ?si=VlPvDR96Yp5Bf2rQ
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>>549296940
I agree.
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>>549296940
What no games does to a mf
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>>549296734
Yeah but Blaze doesn't have a character other then her simplified archetype, plus a tsundere is a character that doesn't stay that way, she's a complete one off, you'll end eventually with a dere dere and if you repeated the tsun part that only means you retconned something.
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>>549296940
Heartbreaking, isn't it?
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>>549295858
Never got that notion from her at all, i only saw a crazy bitch who got beaten into submission to become your friend forever.
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>>549283072
Naoto Ohshima said Sonic has a boy's heart forever but that was only because Yuji Naka made it so Amy wouldn't 't be Sonic's girlfriend. Naoto Ohshima and Kazuyuki Hoshino literally created Amy to be Sonic's girlfriend. Yuji Naka overstepped his authority even as head of Sonic Team and changed a character dynamic that wasn't broken.
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>>549297627
What could had been.
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>>549296551
switch Monika and Sayori and it's perfect
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>>549297627
Naka was right. Shippers and developmentfags who want "canon" relationships are retarded. Having couples who go on dates fucks everything up.

There isn't a single relationship that improves by making the characters into an "actual" couple.
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>>549297756
Sonic being averse to romance is just Yuji Naka's headcanon that he couldn't't help but shoehorn into Sonic's character. Now these Brandnic bootlickers eat it up and use it as a talking point against Sonamy even though it went against the wishes of Ohshima and Hoshino.
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>>549298192
except Sonegg (:
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>>549298192
If that's what you think then don't ever complain about Sonic and Amy's character dynamic being static again because the only way to make it progress and not reset is by making them a real couple.
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Literally anytime Blaze ever gets brought up here, she and her fans immediately get insulted.
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>>549297848
I got 143.
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>>549295416
Cute car



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