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Historical edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Thread question
What's your dream crpg?
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How many of you will play the Dark Heresy Alpha and report info here?
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>>549294058
We already had this thread, I made it last time tch
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Her romance is actually good and I'm tired of pretending it's not. She's like the inverse of Valerie where it starts off shitty but ends up heartwarming.
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How do you respond without getting mad
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>>549294058
>What's your dream crpg?
The gameplay of BG2 but with the intro of NWN2. I fucking loved the harvest festival. Fags who bitch about the heroes journey need to just play Warhammer.
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>>549294691
"Ok I'll get my boyfriend Alistair to warm you up for the night sista <3"
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>>549294462
I like it too. Though I think it's her voice work that helps a lot.
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Also isn't Alistair supposed to be the "tank" companion? At least until you get the Golem? Fucker can barely handle a single enemy in every encounter. My dog does a better job at tanking.
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>>549294691

I like only hags
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>>549295129
Based
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https://youtu.be/NOSFMo4SCcs?si=sR2WP-DwJllv-OMV
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>>549295292
gross
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>>549295334
It's so weird seeing redditors having so many complaints about this.
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>>549295292
I love cass but i hate the fact that just like every modern heroine she can't stfu about her ex when you finally have sex with her
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>>549294058
>dream crpg
tyranny style game set in ASOIF universe
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>>549295517
Apart from her and Valerie who else does this?
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>>549295852
jae
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>>549295852
Cassia if you count in universe fictional works. So does Octavia, Nimzy, Mazarahai, Queenie,
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>>549295292
>"uhm chuddy, my boyfriend just blew up a few weeks ago, just wanted to bring him up on our date night! I miss him a lot!"
what were they thinking?
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>>549294691
>dressed like a high class courtesan while being some stinky bitch living in a swamp
The more you think about Morrigan the faker she becomes
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>romancing anybody but kibbles
NGMI
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>>549295939
Jae is a weird case because she actually brings up her ex-boyfriend only when it's actually relevant, which is what people criticize about Cassandra and Valerie, but on the other hand, she drops dialogue about it that could legit be taken right out of an ntr doujin about how if she so much as stands in the same room as him she might not be able to control herself and let him dominate him. So I'd say her issue is a different one.
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Okay I underestimated that one Heretic ability you get. Starting around midgame most encounters throw a billion fodder enemies at you so killing all of them which is braindead easy as a psyker starts giving you signifgant boosts to all your characteristics.
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>>549296450
>which is what people criticize about Cassandra and Valerie
nobody except the most unfuckable of incels thinks this is legit criticism, don't lump "people" into this
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>>549296620
I have yet to meet a single fucking person who enjoys their partner talking to them about their exes.
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>>549296620
You aren't going to gaslight me anon. That Valerie thing is fucking weird to the point where even normal people who play the game are taken aback by it.
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>>549295852
jaheria
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The truth is someone in owlcat has a swinging and ntr fetish. Just like they have a puzzle guy.
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>>549296974
now you're just gaslighting
jaheria never brings up khalid during or after having sex
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>>549296974
Not really the same either, you knew the guy, you met them while they were together, he died like a month, if not week ago, and she's feeling guilty af about moving on so quick. Those are all actually relevant story and relationship elements, not just Jaheira trying to make your first real romantic moment all about her ex.
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>>549296841
>you don't make a big deal out of it? so you enjoy it when someone talks about their exes?

>>549296946
literally a nothingburger
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>>549296260
she has a NTR moment during her romance too so she's not safe from owlcat's feitsh either

>>549296974
her situation is just funny. husband was brutally mutilated at the start of the game but within a few weeks she's hopping on the dick of the 18 year old who is supposed to be her godson.
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>>549294737
>bg2
>gameplay
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>>549297148
>>you don't make a big deal out of it?
Anon, try to go on a date with a girl and once you're about to have your first kiss, instead stop to tell her about your ex. Film the reaction and then post it here.
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>>549296620
I know you don't talk to women anon, but when you have an intimate moment with a girl next time, bring up your last fling/ex and see how much you can kill the mood
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>>549297213
>but within a few weeks she's hopping on the dick
this lie is older than most posters here
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Death From Above can be fucking busted having a Bladedancer hop around the map for basically free, but this shit is the worst, most faggot cringe way to adjust the ability.
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>>549294249
Nah, 3/4 of RT was enough for me to decide I'm good with never engaging with 40slop again.
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I agree with the evaluation that it's an Owlcat/Russian fetish thing, but I don't see why you need to talk about it so much or keep engaging with romances in their games.
Just smooch elsewhere. TOR/Expeditions/Tale/etc are right there.
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>>549297053
And they're both based AF
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Romances are a mistake in every game. Remember how Pillows discussions was before they announced it for Deadfire. The moment it hit that kickstarter goal the weirdest fucking people showed up.
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>>549297509
It's simple anon, negative things are easier to talk about than positive things. It's why the internet is such a shithole nowadays and why people have been turning meaner and more depressed since social media was invented.
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>hates mature women
>loves NTR/cucking

someone in owlcat games was raised by a single mother who grew up watching his mother sleep around
that explains both the hatred towards MILFs and love for cuckshit
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>>549297320
>>549297409
these real life analogies are always stupid because these characters don't exist in the real world and what's "normal" during "dating" or not isn't even remotely the same
there isn't a concept of "dating" where you judge someone based on "vibe" and first dates or any modern term
it'd be like you trying to criticize the writing of Cassandra's romance line because who uses a poetry book to get laid?
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>>549297213
>she has a NTR moment
You mean that part during your dinner date where she starts being social and some servant gets super flustered over her and tries to flirt? She was just imitating what she thought upper society people do. Besides you can immediately sentence him to death for not knowing his place.
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>>549297981
holy copium
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>>549297509
>Russian
But Russians gave me the best fictional waifu of all time.
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>>549298246
what game
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>>549298246
Metro?
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>>549298287
Metro Exodus. She's the player character's tomboy sniper wife.
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>>549298458
wasn't this game made up ukrainians ?
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weren't drow supposed to be hot?
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>>549298647
They are 2025 era hot.
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>>549297447
I still don't understand "balancing" a single player RPG. Especially in this game where there's at least a dozen ways to utterly break combat harder than spamming death from above.
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I've actually had the "mentions her ex at the worst possible moment" thing happen to me irl before. One was just a girl who casually dropped her ex in conversation when we were alone as a way to let me know she was single NOW. Though back then I took it as "Oh god she's obsessed with her ex, back off, back off". It wasn't my first time meeting that kind of girl.

The other case was a girl who fucking formulated this entire elaborate plan to get me to fuck her, so she got another girl to be her co-conspirator and stand there corroborating everything she said. Long story short, she invented this story where an old friend stole her ex-boyfriend and now she wanted my advice on how to get back at them both. I just said some shit way to troll them because the story made everyone out to be horrible and I just wanted to get out of that situation. Later the other girl told me the idea was that I'd respond I'd fuck her as revenge to the other guy.

Why can't they just fucking say "I like you"?
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>>549298597
what difference is there? they were russians until the current war made it a no-no to equate them
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>>549296946
I just wish that you could ask her "If you didn't regret anything, then why did you go to separate ways then?"
What those "circumstances" were is kind of relevant information if we are dating
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>>549298597
Book series is russian, game studio ukrainian
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>>549297053
For me it's the needlessly complicated management minigame guy.
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>>549299020
Anon, you and I both know saying that would have broken the romance. The slightest fucking deviation from "tell me more" during that scene is enough to break it.
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>>549299020
circumstances are not a code for something else, it's just something vague that means they didn't like each other enough to travel to the other side of the world if needed
if anything that dialogue shows that he wasn't her dream man
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>>549299087
how's the author doing now btw?
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>>549298897
Gotta sell dlc that shills new thing. Gotta nerf old thing.
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>>549298647
they are but larian decided the evil drow chick mega ugly and mintharafag made her worse.
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>>549298927
>can't they just fucking say "I like you"?
I am too autistic
even if some girl said that to me
it would take me a lot of time to understand what she meant by liking me

it's over for me
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Owlcat should just contract Josh Sawyer to handle mechanics and balance it.
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>>549299229
Living his life probably
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>entire personal quest is dealing with her evil lesbian ex
>even after you finish the quest and kill her leliana outright tells you that you'll never compare to her
I'm starting to notice too much now thanks to you anons. Maybe I'm finally done with romance in these games.
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>>549299229
He said he's done with the Metro Universe book wise but authors are free to pitch other locations to him to write about. He's helping write the story for the next Metro game though.
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dolly kissing written by the big man Josh Sawyer himself
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>>549298246
>>549298458
Is this game a shooter or a wife simulator?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLp3UFHH1O0
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>>549299646
>by the big man Josh Sawyer
Forceful pussy eating
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>>549299646
>And then she kissed [Main Character] and through the passion the beats of the emancipation proclamation entered your mind.
>That on the first day of January in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State, or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free...
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>>549297879
>moving the goalpost
as other anons said, try doing this irl of bringing up ex bf/gf and see how the other person responds when you are about to fuck or make out. That's what gets laughed at anon
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Ironically the most of "whorish" characters actually never bring up any of their ex

Isabella, jack ,triss/yen don't bring up their ex ever especially during sex
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>>549299870
you're the one moving the goal posts?
do you think the scene is written as if Valerie is some drunk chick at a bar you're trying to pick up?
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The weekends bring waifutards and cuckschizos good to know
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>>549299924
>Isabella
She pumps and dumps
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>>549297879
>it'd be like you trying to criticize the writing of Cassandra's romance line because who uses a poetry book to get laid?
Back in the middle ages, every fucking trobadour noble. That's what courtly love was about (that and copious amounts of adultery).
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>>549299792
Mormons dont believe in that.
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>>549299924
>Isabella
Literal giga slut who has STDs. Also she does more than mention an ex, she outright tries to fuck Zevran even if you're in a relationship with her in DA2. You have to literally plead her to not cuck you.

>Jack
She mentions a couple she was involved with but it wasn't during a major romance scene and was more or less explaining why she has trust issues so I'll give it a pass

>triss/yen
All sorceresses are canonically massive sluts. Yen literally cucks Geralt in the books so hard he almost commits suicide.
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>>549299229
He betrayed his homeland, escaped, took the side of the enemy. He was convicted for anti-Russia criminal charges and his Russian property confiscated.
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>>549300185
that's my point.
the others bringing up modern "dating" slang like or "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" or "exes" or "make out" are completely off the mark and think these characters living in medieval fantasy are modern people with a phone number and and socials
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>>549295015
Alistair becomes good only after mid game
use the dog and sten for now
I prefer sten but his 2 H style is ass early game
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>>549300437
...ok but by that logic, mentioning your ex is even fucking worse. If people take you suddenly making an intimate moment about your ex badly now, imagine during the middle ages as a noble woman.
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>>549300291
This character voice carried him so hard. If it wasn't for that voice everyone would write him off as an annoying retard like that "BEAR AND BULL" guy that Avellone wrote.
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>>549300583
Val and Cassandra aren't noble women? they're not virgins either, and that's what bothers incels
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>>549300437
Medieval people never had an ex or made out?
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>>549300769
You're really just stuck on this and won't move out of it no matter what, are you?
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>>549300405
Isabelle also sleeps with the elf mage if you're not romancing her
I remember bioware fangirls loosing their minds over this
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>he wants medieval fantasy to be realistic
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>>549300405
Jack also mentions that one guy who actually tried for her and his loss fucked her up and is a big part of what made her worried about getting too close to others.
>>549300869
What, really? I don't think I've ever seen dialogue of her implying she bedded Merril.
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>>549300291
>joshua gram=joshua sawyer
How did he get away with just puting his mormansona in a game?
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>>549300869
>This post is the one that just reminded me of the existence of Fenris.
Wierd how for a character that yelled "edgy donut steel special snowflake" so much, he was so forgettable.
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>>549294058
MILK
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>>549300869
She and Fenris become fuck buddies if you aren't romanincg either however she still hits on Fenris if you are dating him. Thats why fangirls got mad.
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>>549300989
>Merril
Pretty sure that anon meant Fenris. They become fuck buddies if you don't romance either of them.
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>>549300989
not merril
the edgy elf from DA II
one with the lyrium tattoos
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>>549300849
they weren't "exes" they were former lovers
use the proper terminology and stop trying to use your stupid "but like what if in real life a girl brought up her ex before you smashed" example
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>>549299984
are you dense? Anons are making fun of it because its a intimate moment that gets hard cut with companion bringing up former fling, that's what gets made fun of. Nobody complains about Heinrix bringing up his ex girlfriend because he doesn't do it when RT and him are doing something romantically
>>549300405
>Yen literally cucks Geralt in the books so hard he almost commits suicide.
Geralt did also fuck around while both of them were separated though, didn't really help that Yennefer was pleading with Geralt of him confessing his love to her and him just refusing at first
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>>549301048
fenris is supposed to the i can fix him type of guy that girls love but he got mogged by anders in the end
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>>549301291
>Nobody complains about Heinrix
incels aren't usually interested in males, hope that helps
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Crpgs have a major waifufag problem that's gotten significantly worse over the years.
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>>549301291
>Nobody complains about Heinrix bringing up his ex girlfriend because he doesn't do it when RT and him are doing something romantically
They are on awkward "first date" and because women don't demand for their partners to be pure touchless virgins like they are.
I know if Jimmy was a woman, it would make cuckschizo talk all the time about that 1 line.
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>>549301223
>fair maiden brings up her former lovers right before making love with me
How is this different?
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>>549301589
Trve! but I can't help but to argue against them.
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>>549301591
You can ask Heinrix what is his type and he will tell you
Imagine any female romance stating her type
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>>549301772
Shadowheart says what her type is quite a few times during BG3.
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>>549301906
>Lae'zel talks about how much she thirsts for red dragonborn
>my dragonborn has blue scales
:(
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>>549301634
the difference is that it demonstrates at least a willingness to consider the context and we can have a discussion about how much of a whore Valerie is
but the moment you bring up real life and dating and exes and tinder then I know you're a full blown incel
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>>549301772
lmao sad but true
>>549301906
and what is her type. I know she likes muscle people.
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>>549300942
realistic dragon romance in rpgs, yes
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>>549301772
>Imagine any female romance stating her type
I raise you Shart constantly moaning about Bear.
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>>549301535
>not even responding to what I replied with
bunch of anons here romance males companions when they play female characters, you would know if you actually spend time on /crpg/, probably from discord or reddit
>>549301591
>because women don't demand for their partners to be pure touchless virgins like they are
we are just gonna strawman our way out of this then?
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>>549302082
>Lae'zel talks about how much she thirsts for red dragonborn
>my character is a gnome
Love conquers all :)
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>>549302136
>I know she likes muscle people.
That, and silent and reliable people.
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>>549301589
only way to fix it is by RVTRNing to Fallout 2 levels of violence and edgyness

in Fallout 2 you can do anything
from getting date raped to raping a married woman while her children are right out her tent

everything was possible in Fallout 2
getting married , selling your wife , whoring your wife ,whoring yourself, sleeping with a mobb boss wife/daughter
knocking up the boss/daughter , hate fucking women etc etc
it had everything
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>>549300869
>The Elf Mage
Fenris would behead you for calling him a Mage, anon.
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>>549302209
>bunch of anons here romance males companions when they play female characters,
Like 1 person? Most men here only self-insert and get angry if a man dare hits on them.
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>>549302439
>Like 1 person? Most men here only self-insert and get angry if a man dare hits on them.
you are literally just a newfag anon, why are you even here?
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>>549294058
I have a confession to make.
I whored myself out to Cleopatra in exchange for military favors.
I did it for Rome. I'm sorry.
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>>549302406
slip of my tongue:)
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>>549302597
Me too.
>in exchange for military favors.
>I did it for Rome.
Oh, nevermind, not me too.
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>>549302209
>/v/ tier reaction
yup not reading your shitpost
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>>549302528
You are new if you think the majority of men here would ever play as a woman or romance male characters.
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Quest Objective: Make Imoen happy again
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>>549294249
If people leak it, I will play it
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>>549294249
Im gonna get it for free
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>>549302845
She gets really happy when she sees the child of Aerie and Gorion's Ward.
She just wants a family again.
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>>549302771
when Lex imperialis was released we had a bunch of anons trying out his romance and posting their playthrough, most correctly said it was disappointing compared too other companions in RT, including me
>>549302771
I keep saying, what are you even doing here? Posting wojak to fit in?
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>>549303302
>a bunch
It was one anon playing as a black female RT. Lol people were posting about the pets not Solormorne. He only ever got shat on for his dog talk.
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might be a controversial take
but i can excuse a woman having a past but what i despise more is women who jumps from one man in position of power to the next

infact people rarely talk about it
for example jaheria, randvi ,oddleif ,aela all of them were previously married or in love with men in postions of power and once the man gets killed they immediately jump on your cock because you're the next powerful man
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>>549304662
It's only a controversial take among the loudest idiots on this site.
being an unlovable whore is about more than just having a previous lover or two.
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>>549304662
done arguing about minthara being a lesbian
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>>549304662
wendaug moment
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>>549304662
this is why you pair up with the cute peasant girl who believed in you before all the success
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>>549305145
doesn't Minthara have kids?
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>>549306047
cut pregnancy plot
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I won't romance Jaheira because I was taught than when there is more than 7 years of difference between the woman and the boy, it becomes inappropriate or grooming
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>>549306463
durge butler still talks about her being a fecund choice of lover
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>>549306620
true, my hobbit is way older than her, it would be inappropriate.
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I won't romance Viconia because I was taught than when there is more than 200 years of difference between the woman and the boy, it becomes inappropriate or grooming
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>>549306620
where do you draw the line in DnD when it comes to age gaps? Is 200 year Elf dating a 100 year old gnome seen as problematic?
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>>549306707
Don't tell someone who thinks she's a lesbian that
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>>549306620
age gap between charname and jaheria isn't that big

atleast it's not as bad as NWN 2
elanee pretty much groomed you
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>>549304662
/our girl/ Valerie gets married to and has kids with a random farmer. She knows that marrying for power isn't true love.
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>>549297447

It's based. RT has way too much broken busted shit in it that NEEDED to be balanced. Cope and SNEED.
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>>549307107
what's the age gap with elanee
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>>549304662
>randvi ,oddleif ,aela
Who?
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>>549297447
Kibbles got fat I see
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>>549297447
I'd make it -5/-10% so it won't be as brutal at the beginning of the game. And in act 2 magnitude stops to matter anyway.
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>>549307289
more than 100 years
even if you're an elf
that's a huge age difference
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>>549307470
Illidan...
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I dont think the epione and glasses girl romances in the expanse and dark heresy will be as good as daeren and wendaug, they could have made a good romance in RT but chose not to.
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>>549307310
randi is your brother's wife in assassin's creed valhalla
oddlief is the wife of jarl in banner saga
and aela the huntress is one of the inner circle of the companions

and it just occurred to me all of these girls are "northern" nordic women
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>>549307728
>richfag with le dark secret who treats *you* different from everyone else
>ugly whore who talks about breeding with other men
encapsulates russian tastes for both sexes pretty well
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Why are Owlkeks so deathly afraid of balance for buggy broken shit? One shotting bosses and clearing entire encounters before they can even move isn't even fun and breaks the fantasy of 40k. You're telling me some Sister of Battle is killing a Chaos Space Marine in 1 turn? One Sister of Battle is clearing out an entire batallion of Necrons before they can even move?
It's broken bullshit and needed to be gutted. If anything, it should've been nerfed even harder.
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>>549308061
I thought you guys said Ulfar was bad
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Octavia giving You and Reg a double blowjob and rubbing your cocks together in her mouth
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>>549308136
That was from a casual playthrough at launch. The game was so laughably broken that you had to go out of your way to NOT break it in half.
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>>549308136
It takes 2 turns to set up all of his situational abilities that give him a gazillion stats instead of one so he is unoptimal.
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>>549308412
canonically it happens in the game
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kotor remake may not have been fully killed
you'll find out later this week
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>>549308061
Rogue Trader will never achieve this mythical balanced state because combat and stat systems are fundamentally shit.
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waifuschizo gibberish
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Was RT ever rebalanced or does Soldier/Arch Militant with an Officer babysitting them still solo the game?
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>>549308661
grim
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Why wasn't idira romanceable? Did owlcat learn nothing from bg3?
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>>549308661
KOTOR remake should stay dead. Like who is even asking for a remake? If you're gonna remake old shit do Planescape Torment, Fallout 2 or BG2.
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>>549309185
no one wants to romance idira outside jungle fever fags
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>>549294058
>What's your dream crpg?
Long arc adventure feeling and wolf-bait to godhood of BG1&2
Large amount of skill checks, characters, "failing can be interesting" of Disco Elysium
Characters, comfy feeling of missions of Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Opportunities to be terrible and interesting tactical combat of Wasteland 4
Interesting tactical combat of Jagged Alliance 3 and Solasta, Solasta's way of giving mercs personality (but better)
Lore from Pillars, build autism from PF.

50-100 hrs reasonable but 1k+ for completionists, tons of meaningful (not mad lib) reactivity, alternate approaches and far-reaching consequences.
I think that's it. Not asking for much, really.
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What's wrong with being a cuck exactly?
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So Bhaal. He transformed into the race that he raped right? Why did he bother with a chinchilla? Was she meant to be like a super duper backup or something?
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Dark heresy looks like a rogue trader asset flip, im more excited for Solasta 2 to be honest.
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who let mishulin post here
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>>549309185
Idira already have a gf, I don't like ntr and would feel bad stealing from Vigdis
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would you accept your sob romance like this
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I'm gonna romance the black doctor in Dark Heresy
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>>549309653
>Solasta 2
New interface style is too busy.
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Just to prepare, where should I go for /crpgg/ discussion when the 40slop takes over again? Is /vrpg/ any good?
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Am I schizophrenic or does rogue traders combat feel extremely similar to wasteland 3's?
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>>549309892
It's ok
though it has it's own share of weirdos
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>>549309653
It should have been an asset flip. Re-use assets, make new relevant ones. Cheap, quick, and people would eat that shit up. Instead Owlkeks are remaking everything.
>Solasta
Didn't the full release make all models ugly?
>>549309892
Unironically rpgcodex and the woodus forums.
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>>549309653
Isn't Solasta shit? Why should I get excited for 2?
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>>549309939
I felt the same way
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>>549309697
we ALL love sistas of battle here
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>>549294249
I will
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>>549309697
is she a nice lady or some abrasive girlboss attempt
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>>549302983
>if
rt alpha was leaked the day it released
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>>549309892
You're probably a dragon age fan and don't belong here anyway
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>Isn't Solasta shit?
Can you imagine being this level of knuckle-dragging, drooling, imbecile? Not only just gargling down whatever other peoples' opinions shoot down his throat, but then becoming confused about it when some contrary opinions are expressed
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>>549304662
>oddleif
Didn't expect to see her mentioned, but you're right.
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>5e combat
Into the trash it goes just like baldurs gay 3.
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>>549309892
>again
You mean that 90% of discussion here now is NOT warhammer 40k?
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>>549309697
I'd gladly show off all the black lipstick my kween left on my pale body
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>everyone remembers only jaheria but not aeribeth

aeribeth cucks her lover even after death she says she evens says that never loved him truly and only loved the MC truly even though she is literally dead because of you
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>>549309892
you should fit right in afterall both rapefag and milf fag are regular posters there
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>>549310742
It will be so much worse with DH, like it was with the DLC. I wasn't here for the initial RT release but it became pointless to even skim the thread if it wasn't 40slop related. And so also pointless to post about anything else, because who would skim through all that trash to find a non-40slop topic.
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>>549311338
OwlGOD thread. WaifuSOVEREIGN thread. 40KINGS thread.
Feel free to leave sis.
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Eh, the game doesn't really have very much crowd control, and there also isn't really a healer class. The support class buffs ally's damage. So if nobody is casting cc spells, and nobody is healing, what you're left with is everyone doing damage or buffing damage. So you end up with a situation where time-to-kill is all that matters. I understand the deliberate gameplay design choice to not have things the developers don't consider to be "fun" like being stunned, but we see the downside of that philosophy, which is that all you're left with is damage, or an officer doing damage through the middleman of another character.

I think RT would greatly benefit from another difficulty level that takes cues from bg3's honor mode. Enemies are not just inflated stat blocks, but rather actually have new spells and new items in their inventories. I would like enemies to use more of the same abilities we use, and have more unique gear just like we have. Slow combat down a tiny bit so it's not just a race to deal as much damage as possible. Sargonus having the wall in his room and the c'tan having echos of himself and other mechanics like this that you have to figure out and disable before you just blender a health bar are really good, there should be more. They have the right idea for a few of the fights.

For the record, a lone SoB taking out things much much more powerful than her is not lore inaccurate. They run on faith juice, and when there's enough of it, they can perform miracles. The Emperor guiding their bullets or turning away fatal wounds is pretty standard miracles. When Argenta crits 8 times in a volley that all hit and the Word Bearer marines crumples into dust, the lore explanation for that is the Emperor heard her prayer and guided her bullets.
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>>549309892
you got mad about DA yesterday. Is there any crpg you like
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I am waiting for greedfall 2
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>>549311614
You will never be a woman or Sister of Battle
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>>549311775
no one is saying this
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Im waiting for underrail infusion and solasta 2.
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>>549308412
he's playing a role, leave him be
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What was Owlcat trying to achieve with her "romance"? You have to put up with all her dumb shit the entire game...just to get zero payoff?
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>>549311621
Never played DA in my life, you might be confused as I'm posting as "Anonymous" and this other person might have been as well.
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>>549312051
>romancing a xenos
anyone doing this deserves it
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>The Emperor guiding their bullets or turning away fatal wounds is pretty standard miracles. When Argenta crits 8 times in a volley that all hit and the Word Bearer marines crumples into dust, the lore explanation for that is the Emperor heard her prayer and guided her bullets.
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Idira would have made a good romance. There would have been alot of themes of tragedy, doom, fatalism and inherited love involved.
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>>549312051
I don't even understand why she gets made at you if you sleep with other human women

she says humans are disgusting at the same time gets made at you for sleeping with other women


how was this dogshit romance even greenlit?
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>>549311614
Sisters of Battle are just humans. There is no world where one solos a Chaos Space Marine.
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>>549312051
Every yrlietard worships her so Owlcat won
>>549312493
you just triggered him
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>>549312046
>underrail infusion
atleast 3 more years
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Yrliet derangement syndrome still going strong
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Im a very famous grand Inquisitor, not to brag, just for your information. I have killed numerous chaos marines at once, again, not bragging, just so you know. I dont care whether you believe it or not.
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Nooo you can't bully my waifu!!
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>>549312493
That's not how 40k works anon. You should read up on the various battlefield miracles sob manifest on a regular basis, what a living saint is, and you can even look to the tabletop game codex for a gameplay mechanics list of common miracles, which include things from coming back to life to suddenly gaining armor piercing bullets to suddenly being more accurate. Every gameplay mechanic of Argenta criting a traitor astartes are well documented through 20+ years of tabletop mechanics and lore novels. SoB are not just humans, they are humans that are particularly faithful, and in 40k the strength of your faith has direct and tangible effects on the world around you, because humanity has the patronage of one of the most powerful beings to ever exist.
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My psychiatrist said I was "obsessed" and need to stop screaming at yrlietards on the street. Called her out for the yrlietard she was and walked right out of there.
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>>549311614
Thank you for the lore based dump I enjoy reading about 40k lore
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>>549313512
lol
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>>549312051
The male inability to understand Yrliet or her romance
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>>549312051
>What was Owlcat trying to achieve with her "romance"
Humiliation of the player and getting off to spitting in the face of 40K fans and crushing their hopes x2 with both this abomination and argenta being non-romancable
SoB and Eldar waifus are the dream of most 40K fans
Owlcat enjoys shitting on their straight male playerbase
The only xeno romances in DH that have a normal relationship will be for female characters and gays. The corsair will not treat the femquisitor like an animal and will have an odd by setting standards, but either overal normal relationship with her or fetish fulfillment that men would absolutely not get with a female xeno.
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>>549313273
Can you tell me why Minthara is a canon lesbian
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>>549313512
quit replying to yourself
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CONSPIRACY THEORY! idira wasn't romanceable because owlcat is racist.
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>>549312729
there's another derangement syndrome at work in this thread iykyk
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>>549313720
Someone post the crying vocaroo
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>>549313843
conspiracy theories need a believable basis otherwise they're just schizorambling
in this case I don't think anyone wants to romance idira and owlcat understood that so they didn't bother
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Should I do Wardens keep as soon as I can or later?
Apparently you get some storage for it which is nice early but you also lose out on the stronger armor in the game by doing it at a low level
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Idira isn't romanceable because she's a lesbian
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Am I a cuck if I simply accept that my canon playthroughs of Owlcat rpg's have underwhelming romances (Valerie, Galfrey, Cassia)? My character's journey is more important than which woman takes his dick.
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>>549314198
Then just make her a lesbian only romance?
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>>549314198
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>>549312051
Slavniggers just not understanding the word 'platonic'
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>>549314198
They should have let fem RTs have a polycue with Idira and Vigdis
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Why do any posts featuring actual discussion in these threads often have some bg3 avatarfag responding to all of them with some meaningless shitpost? I've been noticing it for weeks. Screams mental illness
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>>549314251
galfrey romance makes sense if you play as aeon
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>>549314114
You should avoid DLC content until you've cleared two of the main missions.
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>>549314310
CONSPIRACY THEORY! owlcat hates lesbians.
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>>549314393
the /bgg/ namefag really upset the stalker and now it thinks it's doing a public service by spamming pictures or comments every time it can detect a namefag post
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>>549314198
romance fags have ruined crpgs for all time because their virgin brains are incapable of discerning between camaraderie and romantic affection
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>>549314310
Women, especially lesbians don't play CRPGs
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i think it's funny that CRPGs which is all about role playing as powerful heroes never let you have more than one girl
no matter how powerful or charismatic your character is
meanwhile the MC of AA shooter like terminator resistance gets not 1 but 2 girls by the end
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>>549314460
I will do that then, wasted some time exploring wardens keep but I will go through it much faster the second time around I guess.
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>>549304662
What position of power did Khalid even have?
He was just a harper member like her..
He was not that powerful in a martial sense either
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>>549314779
what about the goats
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>>549314676
men and women can't be just friends
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>>549314779
I am pretty sure you don't end up with either for good, one them is more a fling for sure at least
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Your fucking stupid drow elf paladin wifu was DIRECTED, ANIMATED, MODELED, VOICE ACTED, CODED, PRINTED, MOCAPPED, IMPLEMENTED, SCRIPTED AND PROGRAMMED TO DUMP YOU FOR REJECTING THE POWER OF BHAAL, SHE IS EVIL AND HAD TO BE NEUTERED BECAUSE YOU CRIED THAT SHE WOULDN'T LET YOU HAVE THE NON-EVIL ENDING YOU WASTE OF FUCKING space
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>>549314779
Unfaithful whore
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>>549315019
least mindbroken bgg tourist
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Can we discuss how shit BG3 Act 3 is? I legitimately couldn't even finish the game because it just feels fucking terrible to play.
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>>549314779
kingmaker, jade empire, necromancer's tale if we're going just by op's list
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>>549314934
I have several female friends I've known since childhood or just a bit later
You might just be damaged and seeing the world in your damaged way
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>>549314393
You have correctly identified it as mental illness. He follows a poster named Mintharafag around and tries to derail the thread. The irony is that the only way to tell which posts are the namefag's here is that they are the ones that have effort and longer discussion, so he's attacking the best posts in the thread with shitposts and then says he's not the problem. It's honest to god mental illness.
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>>549315159
>>549315019
>>>/vg/bgg/ Get back in your containment hole
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>>549315019
my le ebil waifu was meant to le ebil, not 60 IQ retard
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>>549314934
>what are homosexuals and old people
otherwise, i agree
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>>549315159
I am playing multiplayer with a friend and it seemed to have gotten buggier than last I played it.
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>>549315019
The ever increasing meltdowns going completely ignored makes this even funnier
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>>549315512
It's not even the buggy aspect of it. It just feels terribly paced for an Act 3. You go from fighting an Avatar of Myrkul to suddenly doing chores and fighting low level thugs in the city. The pacing is just completely off.
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>>549315159
i enjoyed it quite a bit
the water prison rescue with microscopic turn count felt more engaging than most crpg encounters
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>>549315464
yeah go back to your general, we're busy discussing humiliation rituals and why idira isn't romanceable
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>>549315159
My only major gripes are upper city being blatantly cut and them lying about it as well as no sensible follow up if you decide to hammer Gortash's face in right at the ceremony
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I want 5 party members. Not 4, not 6. And I want the game to be designed for such a party size.
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>>549315701
The encounters were decent but it feels misplaced. The ultra open ended nature, relatively low stakes and numerous side quests makes it feel more like the Act 2 of RT or Act 3 of WOTR instead of the finale act that it's supposed to be.
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>>549315657
>You go from fighting an Avatar of Myrkul to suddenly doing chores and fighting low level thugs in the city.
This isn't inherently a bad thing unless you define "pacing" as something that should keep growing until it reaches a crescendo. I thought it was refreshing you even had a murder mystery going on, something you couldn't bulldoze through with brute force.
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>>549315204
>necromancer's tale
Is it good ?

I mean the game not the romance stuff
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>>549315934
I swear to god bro the secret upper city is right there and they're just hiding it from us
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>>549315934
Why did they lie about it? Witcher 3 devs did it too with the downgraded graphics.
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People shit on Owlcat for their final acts but Larian is infinitely worse.
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Larian bad :(
Owlcat good :)
This is a novel topic of discussion
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CONSPIRACY THEORY! Solomorne and Sosiel were romanceable and Idira and Seelah weren't because owlcat are THOSE kind of people.
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pretty much every CRPG has shitty or missing third act
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Is Siege of Dragonspear worth it?
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>>549316694
no it's poorly written and doesn't make sense as a bridge between bg1 and 2
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>>549316609
Underrail didn't.
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>>549316561
It's factual. Larian have extremely strong openers then completely shit themselves by the end.
Owlcat strength is usually the middlegame.
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>>549316609
Solasta didn't.
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>>549316585
what people
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Larian ?
Bad!
Obsidian?
Bad!
Owlcat?
Bad!
Bioware?
Bad!

TODD "GOD" WON
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>>549316609
The Veilguard didn't.
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>>549316456
>shitrya
>cumrag
>excess
no
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>>549316609
Kingmaker didn't.
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>>549316990

no one has completed any of these games so it doesn't matter
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>>549316991
>excess
What compelled them to make this? Did they decide to make eight hours of content for the two people who liked Nenio's quests?
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>>549316963
>Larian ?
Act 1 merchants
>Obsidian?
fell apart after Avellone left
>Owlcat?
Midgame merchants
>Bioware?
fell apart after ME3
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really bg3 end after you kill the anti-paladin, then there would be a separate adventure starting at lv1 in the actual city
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>>549316609
Deadfire didn't.
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How about we just say all current crpg devs suck and all of them are going to casualize eventually so there's no point in loving them.
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>>549316991
Alushinyrra is unironic gigakino and the best lategame Owlcat has ever done.
Comorragh is dogshit.
No one played Excess.
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>>549316561
you forget that we have owlcat devs posting here
naturally they'll defend their slop
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owlcopers, the games are front loaded. kingmaker act 1 is the best, same with wotr, and RT you can just uninstall the game after act 1 its such a piece of shit

in fact wotr is the only game they made where the mid game can almost rival act 1 solely thanks to the drezen mega dungeon
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this is why studio tribalism is dumb as fuck
there are good rpgs and bad rpgs, but there aren't good studios with a perfect record
some of the Larian stinkers are honestly embarrassing
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>>549316609
I know you are talking about BG3 and RT, they aren't that bad the first time desu
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>>549317241
I almost feel like Act 2 and 3 should've been switched. Endgames are supposed to be linear so no idea why the linear Act is in the middle.
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>>549316694
If you like BG1&2 then yeah it's more of that. Some interesting parts. Overall pretty linear but it's worth playing at least once. Some interesting encounters, at least moreso than most of BG1&2. Some people here let Beamdog live in their head completely free, you will be able to tell.
TRIGGER WARNING: An NPC has like one line about being trans and you have to actually ask about it. This has absolutely boiled some anon's brains, so in case you're as fragile as that, consider yourself warned I guess.
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>>549316694
its shit
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>>549317692
it's poorly written with or without the token trans npc my sweet little child
>Some interesting encounters
wow, that sure changes everything
that's why people remember bg1 and bg2, for the encounters
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>>549317547
>this is why studio tribalism is dumb as fuck
Larian/Owlcat = good
your favorite rpg studio = SHIT
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>>549317652
I love her!
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>>549317868
>that's why people remember bg1 and bg2, for the encounters
pretty much yeah, bg2 ain't no planescape after all
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>>549317868
It's as fine or better written than much of BG1 and 2. I love the games but most of the writing is total horseshit. Your selective memory won't accept that though, I'm sure.

anon this is one of those brain-boiled retards I mentioned
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>>549317494
All games are front loaded. Especially if they have any sort of open alpha or beta.
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>>549316694
its why larian ended up getting bg3 instead
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Considering how much more progressive the pendulum is going to swing, how come we never had a trans romance yet? Or is Taash the farthest they'll go?
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>>549317692
Interesting thing about that. A lot of people blame a certain woman for a lot of the bad writing but the majority of it was already written before they signed her onto the team. This was confirmed by a Beamdog employee. Like Hexxat wasn't her. Mizhena was and a lot of dialogue responses were her but not much else.
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That isn't actually interesting at all though
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>>549318307
I'm not even a chud but I draw the line at modern progressive terminology in my fantasy slop.
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we blame Beamtrash not any single particular writer
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>>549318278
I do wonder what a Beamdog Baldur's Gate 3 would have been like. Amber Scott was already ousted from the company at the time and the feedback regarding the OC companions and story in Siege they made was commented on. Like you know how Siege's dialogue options sucked? It's cause the higher ups demended that people see it all from any screen without having to scroll.
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>>549318278
Sven too stronk
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>>549318307
they didn't have have the balls to include the desire demon Imshael
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>you will never play The Black Hound
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Strategy won. CRPG incels lost (not a single attractive party member in Dark Heresy ohnonono).
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>>549318853
At least post Neferata instead of this ugly mutant
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>>549318853
>we will never have a snek waifu in a crpg
Perhaps it's for the best
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would you romance Edwina if she was stuck in that form
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>>549313691
Explain to me her romance, oh wise Heinrixfag
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>>549318996
I can't believe Beamdog made an NPC have a sex change like that
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>>549318996
I would romance a goaul'd taking a male-to-female magically converted host, but not the actual male.
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>>549313936
https://vocaroo.com/1aW0bacmZrsJ
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crpg waifu idea: a sociopathic chaotic evil half-elf who gets off on murdering people and she can't be fixed also she's racist
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Cammers would be a good fit as one of the Five in Throne of Bhaal.
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A shadow writer is actually behind all the good crpgs. It's just him and an evil writer is behind all the bad ones and w*ke stuff.
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Orin should have been smoochable if you play Durge
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>>549319263
That's from the original game
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Would you discriminate against any races, classes, alignments or backgrounds if you were recruiting for your RPG party?
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Frogposter is the ghost writer.
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>>549320145
Sure, it's only logical for every other alignment to not want chaotic evil people around. Every other alignment can learn to work together based on some common goal
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>>549320145
NO GIRLS ALLOWED
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>>549317124
>KM
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>>549320145
No, I'm just racist against boring bitches (Sosiel, Tristian)
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>>549320145
No freakshit
Humans only, an elven woman is fine as we can use her for relief
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>>549320145
humans, dwarves, elves or halflings only
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>>549320145
no warlocks, bards or tieflings
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>>549320145
no good fags
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>>549320145
Only the purest aasimar maidens may join me on my quest.
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>>549321595
How pure we talking? Say a small body count in the low hundreds. That okay?
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>>549311775
sneedfall 2
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>>549320145
no barren whores in my party
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>>549320145
Yes in Kingmaker, no in WotR.
The premise of Kingmaker is that you create an alignment-led nation, if you're Lawful Good it makes no sense to have anyone on the party besides Ekun and Valerie.
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>>549311775
>they killed off the female childhood friend companion
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>549320145
No bards.
The only good bards lorewise I have seen l are in dragon age where they are basically just spies, no magical music bullshit.
So the only bard I would ever allow in party would be Leliana. Magic batnerfag bards can fuck off.
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>>549322756
There is no reason to not have the good companions and even some neutral ones, you just do not make them advisors.
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>>549318565
I don't think I've seen a single person, left included, think Veilguard was anything but a circus show. I can only imagine you'd have to go into the most closed off echo chambers to find anyone who says otherwise.

In fact, I've seen more criticisms of the Barve scene from leftists.
>Make a scene about someone getting misgendered by accident and the one who said it by accident not wanting to make it look like they did it on accident to apologize and look good.
>Prove it by realizing the most over the top, ridiculous self-flagellation performative act possible at that moment short of stabbing herself, an act which completely overtakes the entire scene and derails the conversation they were having so Isabella can explain what the fuck is pulling a Barve and feel good about how progressive she is.
>On a more meta level, everyone could fucking tell adding that scene and creating that term is in itself Bioware desperately trying to farm good optics by making the act go viral and trying to make that a thing beyond Veilguard, making the entire fucking thing be completely hypocritical and trying to create a meme based around misgendering people and then self-flagellating for the spectacle and reputation.
They basically said "this is bad, don't do it" and then went and did it.
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>>549320145
I'll take anything that doesn't kill npcs unless the circumstances point to that being the way to go.
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>>549318307
>we never had a trans romance yet?
nobody wants that and yes its Trash. Nonbinary is trans
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>>549275469
>Blicks Addon
>Dain's Fixes
>maybe grab some of tmp's stuff from moddb like the unique light armor and qunari update (I have a linkntonthe dazip version, not the broken one)
qrd on these? I think I have the right qunari update (from a gdrive yeah?)
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>>549324243
>Nonbinary is trans
why do you have two words then
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>>549300608
delusional. sawyer is a fag but Graham is the best character he ever made. his voice is good too tho.
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>>549324894
because they are more special
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>>549304662
you watch your mouth about navani
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>>549325181
>Graham is the best character
he's just a mummy man quoting bible nonsense
god doesn't help you put food on the table it won't save your family in the post apoc
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>>549324243
>nobody wants that
some of us want futas, but the evil gaming corporations keep oppressing us
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>>549325414
I'm not going to pretend soiyer has a large catalogue of good characters to pick from but Graham is a standout of his. Every line is cold as ice yet still warm. His dialogue is actually very impressive for vidya writing.
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What happended with Veilgardard thougough? Like they put millions and millions into it. Surely osmoneone had to have tnocied that sdodjsp,rjmedrg e9o r ?. Because does EA not have nay over sight for theirf devs? Is is just som fiefdom or sothidf?DG
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>>549325489
futa is not trans
they are two words for two different things
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new shitgas isnt a crpg
obsidian has never made anything good
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new vegas faggots that liked the shitty DLC are damaged goods, don't bother conversing with them
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>mfw it's dragon age day
>dead
:(
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>>549325675
Most of these writers are quite talented. The thing is they need a good director to reign them in.
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>>549325682
most coherent biodrone
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>>549325739
>didn't even read the OP recs
>thinks he can decide what's talked about
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>>549325838
that is still a thing
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>>549325843
I don't disagree but there's not a lot of standout directors in vidya either. Miyazaki is the only one that comes to mind for me. Maybe the E33 guy, we'll see with his next game. Fuck you Itsuno.
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>>549311614
You're correct, one of the fundamental problems with RT combat is that everything is centered around damage. That, plus the terrible itemization makes it almost impossible not to trivialize the combat in the game even on the hardest difficulties, you have to actively make terrible decisions to make combat in this game anything even resembling a challenge. It's the worst part of the game, honestly, since it utterly kills any joy in replaying it, since you already know the lore, the world, and the characters, all that's left to carry it is the actual gameplay found in the combat, which, for reasons gone over many times in these threads, is far from satisfactory. Owlcat really needs to figure out how to design better combat, do a MUCH better job on itemization, and learn how to do basic encounter design if they ever want to make a truly great CRPG.
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>>549326138
just stop equipping good gear? just stop picking the highest damage options? it's so easy
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>>549325682
10 years of development hell. Got restarted like twice. Veilguard is leftovers from a multiplayer version and the plot hastily rewritten. Came out shit.
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>>549326336
That's the thing though. How does this happen? Why can't they just re-use more assets and flip a sequel quicker so they can focus on writing? Countless developers are guilty of this and then cry about Yakuza being able to shit out sequels every other year.
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>>549325713
Futa has tits and penis same as trans
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>>549326138
WotR is significantly better in terms of combat but that's probably because Pathfinder system is harder to break than Rogue Trader.
They just need to chill with infinite scaling compounding with extra turns. I imagine Dark Heresy won't have the absolutely broken shit as a baseline.
I hope they update their engine a bit too to handle high ground and elevated positions. It's not quite as satisfying finding a good sniper nest as it should be as stuff like line of sight still feels finicky.
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>>549326308
Part of the joy of CRPGs is slowly building up your team to be stronger than they were before. Doing this shouldn't mean that Anvers Gangers on Footfall end up being a more threatening combat encounter than awakened Necrons. Owlcat cannot seem to correctly design a power curve on itemization that aligns for both the party and the enemies they'll be facing whatsoever. After this latest debacle with Priest/Argenta I'm starting to wonder if they can even do basic math and actually understand what happens when multiple variables are stacked on top of each other.
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>>549326621
>They just need to chill with infinite scaling compounding with extra turns.
It will not be enough, and the whole system will crumble. You'll get obliterated on unfair if you stall for long.
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>>549318307
Tash is such a bizarre character, feels like Weekes had a mental breakdown while writing her and couldn't decide what the fuck he wanted the character to be. She was also obviously meant to be a dyke only romance like Sera but at some point they switched to playersexual romances and had to make it so that the protagonist is the exception.
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>>549327005
>You'll get obliterated on unfair if you stall for long
the games should never be balanced around the meme difficulty setting, WOTR is balanced around Core which is why it actually feels better to do combat
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>>549327053
he projected his midlife crisis and trooning onto xer
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>>549326572
your ignorance is astounding
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>>549327005
Not really, no, if you build a tank correctly they can sit there forever against end game bosses, Abelard had something like 90%+ damage reduction plus his parry being completely maxed out, nothing could even get past his temp wounds stacking, let alone actually hurt him. Of course it didn't really matter since everything was dying in 1-2 rounds anyway but yeah. Defensive options do exist in RT they just aren't relevant because the offensive options your party has access to render them unneeded.
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If I don’t want to trauma stack, should I go forge or death world for bladedancer? Probably gonna go executioner.
Intelligence and toughness from forge world would be pretty pountless but the extra mp and dodge would be nice.
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>>549326983
It's like they have two hands fighting each other
The hand that nerfed bladedancer believes everything must be balanced. The hand that turned naval officer and priest into monsters believes everything is fucked so just let them have fun.
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>>549327053
Trick Weekes are non-binary themselves
>https://bsky.app/profile/trickweekes.bsky.social
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>>549318565
You mean like how Obsidian made up a word for nonbinary in Avowed?
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>>549327330
Cool. One character. Maybe you can keep alive an officer. Rest of your party lies around dead, doing zero dps. It will be worse than the dps race we have today.
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an operative rework and bolt snipers will save rogue trader
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>>549327053
they probably changed it because of BG3
>>549327464
>Mass Effect
how bad is ME5 gonna be? Worse than Andromeda?
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>>549326489
Management was mess with no real leader iirc. Lots of critical people left in development.
>Why can't they just re-use more assets and flip a sequel quicker so they can focus on writing
I think by the time they convinced EA to drop the live service part it was too late to REALLY fix the writing. They had a really short time to rewrite and revoice the game. I am not defending it but it just was a no win situation. Plus the lead writer is responsible for the abomination of Trash.

>>549327464
I hate him for what he did to DA.
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>>549327814
ME5 is going to be entertaining just by virtue of seeing how much of 3 they have to retcon.
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Noble rework when?
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I think things will improve. A lot of these writers have moved on to other companies now. Of course you won't notice much for another 5-10 years with how bloated game dev time is.
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>>549327965
is there a canon ending of ME3?
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>>549327814
ME5 I have 0 hope for. I don't trust whatever Saudia Arabia and the dying corpse of Bioware will do.
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>>549327771
The previous guy was right though, part of what destroys RTs combat is the fact they have no cap on the scaling possible which is FURTHER fucked by the extra turn bullshit, which breaks the system in half. You can't really design a coherent combat system or decent encounters if you don't fix the core problems that are preventing you from doing so.
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>>549327993
>another 5-10 years with how bloated game dev time is.
This shit needs to go, desu. I'm tired of waiting for games for almost a decade to release and then for years to get a full version
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>>549328121
If there was it would have to be the perfect destroy ending because that kicked off the whole indoctrination theory. I'm going to die laughing if they just copy it.
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>>549328323
I get the feeling Officer's gonna get a redesign in Dark Heresy. It's the root of pretty much all the issues in RT's combat system.
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>>549323830
>think Veilguard was anything but a circus
>closed off echo chambers to find anyone who says otherwise.
game journos and the general industry, not a single person said anything bad about it and has/will not because they cant admit that they represent everything that gamers hate, they have to commit to the narrative to justify their existence
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>>549328623
It's just the standard corpos missing the forest for the trees.
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>>549328550
It's not the root of all of them but it is a major contributing factor to the problems. Consider that every single combat encounter has to be designed around assuming that the attacking character can and probably will be buffed, and getting extra turns, OR has to be balanced around assuming that NOT to be the case, since Officer is optional. That means all your combats will, as a result, be too EASY for the guy using the Officer, or too HARD for the guy who isn't using one. Absolutely terrible idea for a class as a result as it practically guarantees bad combat design due to the nature of how it works, since multiplicative effects on a character are more powerful than simply having one additional character virtually every time.
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>>549328323
I think that if we are to just remove an officer and too much scaling then combat as it is today becomes extremely dull, boring affair.
Point is, you can't fix a piece of turd with barely any mechanics outside of numbers.
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>>549328957
if you're expecting these dying SEOslop sights to actually play the games and not just ChatGPT reviews, you are retarded
They've been killed by jewtubers and they know it
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>>549328957
I wonder how much EA paid for this
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>yandere jealous lover ending
>ending where she keeps popping children for you
>bodyguard with special benefits ending
>yandere ghost maiden ending
How did Owlcat become so based suddenly?
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>>549328205
I feel like best case if that the Saudis sell the IP or at least rent it out to some other studio. Bioware as it is now can't make fun games.

>>549328957
You would think if they were going to shill so hard they would at least come up with a couple of things to say instead of just "return to form."
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>>549328323
>>549328960
I feel like the most obvious shit that has to go are extra AP and extra turns. Just look at something like BG3, made for literal children that enjoy 5e slop and even that game breaks apart gameplay wise when you start multicasting Haste or chugging Potions of Speed
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>>549329193
Really wish the yandere aspect was more present. Kibbels desperately needed more personality.
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>>549329193
it's not that they can't it's that they don't want to. just hammering in how pozzed they are desu.
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>>549329195
>>549328205
Saudis are generally very hands off with the stuff they purchase as long as it keeps producing money.
The issue here is modern Bioware is fucking garbage so it's likely that they'll be shutdown for being worthless. I wonder if they'll manage to squeeze out Mass Effect before that.
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>>549328623
>Taking game journo opinions seriously.
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Why do people pretend Bioware's collapse was a mystery nobody in the industry will speak about as if the messy development of all of their games since DAO wasn't super well documented and reported on
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>>549329193
because they wanted the people to buy the dlc
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>>549327053
They should have just written Taash to be huge girl with huge breasts and a huge cock. And then make her hyper aggressive and horny.
Literally easiest thing to write
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>>549329301
no one likes her for her "personality"
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>>549329528
truvke
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>>549329716
thank you for your thoughts on the matter, futa king
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>>549327053
His self insert and the muscle mommy fetish but trans
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>>549329758
She has no tits and no ass tho
You have to settle for personality
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Dlc3 will have a blonde inquisitor mommy
Screenshot this
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>>549329503
well game devs/publishers are, and if game devs are taking retards seriously, you have to address it because the retards cant help themselves, ubishit is fucking dead because everyone kept gassing up outlaws and ac:shadows
>>549329520
every dev triple a dev has messy developments now, its just par for the course with bureaucracy
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>>549329520
I like how they always pasted it off as being normal going as far as to call it bioware magic.

>>549329481
>I wonder if they'll manage to squeeze out Mass Effect before that.
Doubt it. As of the release of Veilgaurd they straight up said they didn't have a single thing planned for ME5
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>>549329929
>more dogmatic humans
i believe it
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>>549330053
In the post Gaider did about it he said that the "bioware magic" was normal to him because he'd never worked anywhere else.
Seems pretty common in the industry to just exploit passionate developers until they burn out and the studio dies.
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Scott should have been able to romance his sister in Andromeda
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>>549329520
Because they made games people liked and money. You might hate ME3 or DAI but they made money.
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>>549329929
It will cause dlc3 to be released at the end of 2027 + blonde inquisitor mommy will cuck you with Jimmy
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>>549329758
are we still doing the "no personality meme" ?
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Where do I go to get some easy to miss, but worthwhile quests in Baldur's Gate 2?
I'll admit, I'm a bit eager to move on from SoA, but I'd rather not regret crossing the threshold until I've experienced enough of the game.
For the most part, the quests I've been doing are just ones I get from being approached in Athkatla, or talking with named NPCs.
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oRK when
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GW shills space dorfs now
no orkz for u
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>>549329716
>Literally easiest thing to write
yet nobody ever wrote that in an AA+ game
Most recently, Swen failed with Karlach
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>>549294058
Can someone redpill me on some of the lesser known crpgs from this list like Expeditions, Solasta, Age of Decadence?
I've played all the normie shit and my favorite ones are probably the Owlcat ones. How do those ones compare?
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>>549330603
I am racist to dwarves tho
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Is operative really that shit
I just want to snipe people
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>>549330669
Expeditions are shitty "crpgs" that are only talked about because Cleopatra has big milkers
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>>549330784
it just does basically nothing
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>>549330784
The problem is that operative uses it's turn to do one really big and powerful shot. At the start of the game, it's by far the best class and the one that will carry most encounters (more because of the sniper rifle than the class itself though). But at the game progresses, killing one mob every turn becomes extremely underwhelming, because the soldier archmilitant for example will be mowing down entire groups or bursting the boss so hard the framerate slows down.
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>>549329193
Meanwhile Cassia
>political marriage ending with no love
>eternally loyal to her love matriarch ending
>cucked by ugly fish bastard ending
>cucked out of hiers by mutations and time ending
>third eye opening family implosion ending
All a lot less interesting and more tragic.
The political marriage one specifically felt spiteful, like could we not have married while also in love? Is that so bizarre owlcat?
Let's not even start on the
>no heirs lmao
ending and how spiteful it reads either.
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>>549330669
Expeditions vikings is on a similar level of sovl junk that owlkek games are.
AoD is fun if you like visual novels with multiple routes.
Solasta is fun if you want some alright combat.
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>>549329182
There was a leak awhile back that said each reviewer gets a couple hundred and the website gets a few thousand.
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>>549330731
Too bad
Dorfs already invaded a game about necrons and cogs
You're next
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>>549330784
They're pretty good but they're focused around dealing massive dmg to one target or debuffing the fuck out of one target. Don't expect it to solo clear encounters and you'll be fine.
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>>549331070
I really do wonder why the fuck does Cassia have a love ending and a marriage ending, but they're incompatible. If she loves you then you're not a good marriage prospect and must keep the relationship secret, but if she doesn't love you then you're the best bet for her dynasty? What?
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>>549331101
>couple hundred
awful
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>>549330345
I don't really remember any hard to find quest. Umar Hill has a fun questline with people getting murdered and there's the serial killer in the bridge out of Athkalta. Just look at the wiki, it has a list of quest by locations.
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Just put in the idira romance owlcat, its not to late.
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>>549331073
>Expeditions vikings is on a similar level of sovl junk that owlkek games are.
Hmm, I'll check it out next steam sale
>AoD is fun if you like visual novels with multiple routes.
I really like VNs so I'll keep an eye on this one
>Solasta is fun if you want some alright combat.
ehhh, didn't particularly like 5e combat in BG3
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>>549329897
No problem.
It's sad - a properly done futa Taash + human male (femboy) rook could have been as big as Solas + female elf inquisitor
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>>549330669
>Expeditions
haven't played but anons around here seem to enjoy it when they play it
>Solasta
I had fun with it. You have to go in realizing it's more of a home-game type experience, like "Now we're going to the dungeon. Why? To kill the bad guy of course!" Though there were a couple cool story moments that surprised me, I guess because I didn't have big expectations there.
A bit janky, but lots of charm, and better combat than BG3 imo. You have things like actual flight and climbing on walls and over ledges.

>Age of Decadence
Some people talk this up so I tried. I have pretty high tolerance for jank but after playing the combat tutorial I quit and never replayed. I felt like I'd seen better shit come out of /agdg/, so I never gave the actual game a fair shot. I've also heard mixed about it, like a lot of the asshole-DM syndrome.

Two I'd suggest without reservation are Wasteland 3 and Jagged Alliance 3. Wasteland is kind of like Fallout (well, vice versa technically) in its setting and tone. Jagged Alliance 3 is more combat than RPG but there are definitely choices you make that have effects, and a lot of reactions from your team so who you take with you has an impact.

I'd also strongly suggest Shadowrun: Hong Kong but only if you actively enjoy reading. There's lots of content and you could skip most of it honestly, but I think that's some of the best of the game, so I'd only really suggest it if you are in the mood for a book in videogame form. The combat is meh. The post-game campaign is longer than I expected and I enjoyed it.

Any other questions about these or something else I've played, happy to give my thoughts
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>>549331662
these images are gross stop posting
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So why does Aerie act like er I can't quite put the words into it but her voice is ambrosia but her personality I wouldn't really say it's childlike but she seems to be the VN girl everyone says is CUTE CUTE but is not a romance.
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I NEED DARK HERESY ORIGIN INFO NOW!!!!
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>>549331665
>Two I'd suggest without reservation are Wasteland 3 and Jagged Alliance 3
I've already played Wasteland 3. Loved it a lot actually. Just felt it was a bit too short.
Jagged Alliance 3 I thought was a tactics game. I'll check it out.
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>>549332039
>Wasteland 3
Good game but the dlcs was awful. They also never followed up with the coma lady.
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>>549331662
these images are wholesome keep posting
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AOD stinks. I tried to play it but's it's just endless skill checks and the game expects you to be know just which skills to level up to progress and if you can't pass them because you leaves your character up differently you'll find yourself unable to continue the game.
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>>549331393
So is there anything out in the wider world that I'd need to just come across to get? BG1 had a lot of that, and I thought it was fun to just wander around aimlessly in search of something interesting. It made it feel like an adventure.
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>>549331662
Anduin...
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>>549332284
Yeah that's my criticism of Iron Tower Studios. You HAVE to specialize otherwise you can't progress.
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>>549331291
grimderp
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>>549332312
Sadly no all the quests are tied to the main map locations like the forces and cities. There's not people standing around in the woods or outside of cities and stuff like the first game.
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>>549331662
>Futafags will see this imagine and picture the draenei bending the human over and plowing him, instead of the superior scenario that is the human plowing her form the front while he's positively lost in her incredible tit flesh.
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>>549332914
I wonder why not. People loved that shit.
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>>549332994
so what's the point of the cock if what you're describing is already possible with any mommy
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>>549333180
>so what's the point of the cock
To be the human's, and to be inside her goat pussy.
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>owlkeks are futafags
no wonder you like abloobloo
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>>549302406
>Magic powers
>From the same source magic comes from
>Not a mage though!
Shut up before I sell you back to your old masters
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>>549333063
I liked it a lot too. It's the cost of making the game more epic feeling and making the cities bigger and more fleshed out. They didn't have the resources for the smaller stuff.
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>>549330296
It's not that their games are all shit. It's that you can't crunch a game together out of nothing with leadership that actively hates the kind of games their studio makes forever.
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>>549333257
how is it related
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>>549332284
It feels like it's meant to be played like a roguelite but nothing about the game was compelling enough to actually make me want to replay it a million times like that.
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>>549332039
>Jagged Alliance 3 I thought was a tactics game
It's a lot of tactics/combat. But it's also well done, and there are story elements and quite a few times where you're deciding what to do about some person or situation.
If you aren't big on combat you won't like it, but if you liked Wasteland 3 I could see you liking JA3.
I saw a post where you said you like VNs, then I would also suggest Shadowrun: Hong Kong, just played through it a month or so ago, and I enjoyed it very much.
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>>549331291
The whole concept of her romance is forbidden courtly love.
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What do you tend to envision for your protagonists after the plot of their game resolves?
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>>549306620
I would have preferred to romance Jaheira in 3 than 2 because I never romance her in 2 anyway and she's better than any of the girls in 3
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>>549334423
Futa breeding sex
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>>549334423
they disappear from reality with a dab then materialize in the next crpg
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>>549334378
>Cassia is about forbidden courtly love
>Jae is about sex for money
>Yrliet is not a romance
Only Kibbles is good
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>>549334517
i'm surprised no one has done a romance where it's an older woman who is really grateful for the attention
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>>549334714
we have
>a romance where it's an older man who is really grateful for the attention
in veilguard
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>>549334705
>hates the most basic of basic romance plots
Waifufags truly don't even like romance
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Kibblesfags need to be gassed
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>needs ws, per and int
Literally what was crime lord even designed for? Barring some melee operative abomination you'll never get the full value of the origin
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>>549334714
Jaheira doesn't look that old, I thought she was considered to be in her 30s relative to her race.Though I don't know the lifespan of half elves in DnD
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>>549334850
Book like romance stories are for fags
Me smooch my dollie, my dollie happy, me happy
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>>549334952
I play mine as a voidborn officer GS. It's boring, but it's honest work.
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>>549334850
They literally can't read
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>>549334952
You can easily do three stats though.
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>>549334378
Ok but does it need to be stupid courtly love? Can't it be smartly written courtly love?
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Why can't I just break down this woman until she's completely dependant on me and also have a wholesome true love bros...
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why can a love interest be flippant towards the pc but not the other way around?
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>>549335263
You would never want those three in particular though
Maybe if pinnacle of weaponry were better you might want to make an int melee build but it sucks
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why am I retarded and expect a happily ever after in 40gay
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Is Outer Worlds 2 a CRPG?
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>>549335963
not in the op
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>nobody has mentioned the best owlcat romance
You guys just keep disappointing me
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>>549336408
Hilarious romance because she’s ascending no matter what and you locked yourself into being a demon sperg
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>>549336408
>the best owlcat romance
Octavia?
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Rogue Trader question. I'm just before act 3 starts, and Solomorne warned me to not break the promise to the arbites since I haven't done Thassera yet.

Will failing to go to Thassera before starting act 3 fail it and that whole dlc questline?
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>>549297981
At least Yrliet saves her cheating on you until after the game is over
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>>549336732
Not at all. You can definitely do Thassera after Act 3.
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Jae is very cute
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>>549295517
>>549295852
To be fair Cass isn't explicit about it and based on her backstory (I think it was a comic don't remember) it's very likely she didn't even actually get to fuck the dude.
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You now remember the BG2 modder who was making a new introduction that assumes you took Montaron, Xzar and Shar-teel with you instead of Minsc, Jaheira, and Khalid. He was going to have Montaron be the dead one.

Guy got bullied out of the scene due to people finding out he posted on Codex.
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As bad Dragon Age 2 was at least it didn't fuck with the lore
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lol
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>>549337989
if anything, it improved it. Red Lithium was a welcome addition to the family.
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>>549337431
>>549336732
I decided to hop over, and when I entered the system to start act 3, Solomorne left. I know they moved him to join MUCH sooner, but idunno what other factors might contribute
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>>549338495
That's really strange. He's supposed to be there for the Thassera mission.
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>>549331291
Slavderp
They love twisting things to give you bad endings
In slav tabletop gaming culture, the DM and the players are adversaries.
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>>549336673
Are you the guy that was talking about the Octavia double blowjobs last thread because I want you to know I hate you and I can't scrub the scene from my mind no matter how hard I try
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I would make a list about Yrliet"s ending like I did for Kibbles and Cassia, but they are all basically the same thing so there is no point truly.
You get no pussy, and either she leaves or you die, the end.
There isn't even anything to discuss.
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>>549340023
kys
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>>549337843
deserved
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>>549339553
Neither of those anons but the post was about double penetration not double blowjobs lmao
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>>549340209
Don't shoot the messenger. I even tried my best to find some Yrliet artwork that doesn't have her looking like a troon, admittedly I failed though.
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>>549332365
didn't Anduin hook up with the black amputee zoomer haircut lady that helped him with his ED in newest expansion?
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>>549338654
I meant he left when I went to the act 3 spot. I assume Thassera fails if I go there first, though I didn't get a notification of such. It COULD be that he goes to the planet himself and you find him there after act 3 but who knows. I opted to just start Thassera
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>>549331662
THAT'S A NORMAL DRAE THO, NOT FUTA, i'VE SEEN THEIR PORN
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>>549340548
Are we sure Alduin isn't just gay?
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>>549340023
>There isn't even anything to discuss.
So true bestie
Anyway, what food Yrliet likes?
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>>549340508
There's this
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>>549340882
Oh ok. Well anyway I know that one of the companions you recruit in Act 3 has lines for Thassera, so it must be possible.
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>>549341208
I was looking for some actual artwork rather than her portrait put through a filter
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>>549341194
There's a mod that addresses this
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>>549341208
>pretty
>no large tits no big milk jugs
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>>549339553
>he's thinking about Octavia rubbing Reg's massive green schlong against his little white willy while she giggles mischievously
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im fucking losing it seeing his model, he sounded so intimidating
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You did pick best girl, right anon?
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>we wuz kangs
>now slave rave
>gypsy coded as well
>can't even have a marriage without their women women getting mass raped by human noble chads
>canonically have a micropenis
What went so wrong for elfkeks?
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>>549342063
this is what CRPGs are all about
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>>549342063
>Reg
>massive
Anon c'mon now
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>>549343225
They're literally just average anglo in 2040
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>>549343225
Why are you people like this
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>>549344119
>Why are you people like this
Ask bioware. Everything I mentioned is straight from the games.
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Ngl you niggas care about sex way to much. Just play the game.
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long and green, every woman's dream...
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>>549343225
Did you even play or did you take talking points from here
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List of people in this general that dont just vent out their sexual fantasies
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>>549344268
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>>549344491
half these points are correct though
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>>549344685
lel
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>>549344651
my fantasy is pretty specific and i haven't mentioned it, otherwise it would eclipse the cuck and futa shitposting
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>>549341417
Hmm well this is the least troony I've seen
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Karlach from bg3 and jae from rogue trader double teaming me because I know they both get freaky.
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>>549344803
tails?
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>>549344651
My sexual fantasy is seeing bad posts on 4chan
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To be a Wizard that can fighter or a Fighter that can wiz...
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>>549344830
how many yrliet images do you have
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>>549344945
Magic Knight
Eldritch Knight
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>>549344945
The latter so you can take a hit
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>rogue trader v1.5 reduced exp gain in act 1 just enough to lose about 1/4 of a level and block getting level 16 by aurora
verily, this is what makes the game fun
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Rogue trader needs more zoning tools.
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Dogmatic=Stalin
Iconoclast=Brezhnev
Heretical=Putin
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How come the only companions i have that talk like a pirates are idira and jae for like 2 scenes?
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>>549345559
TRUVKE
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>>549345185
>replaying before all dlcs are released
just why
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You ever think Jimmy gets freaky with his biomancy? You know like he temporarily turns his penis into a vagina then makes a huge dick grow out of his mouth so he can vomit loads of hot white thick and healthy biomancer cum into himself through his man pussy? You know stuff like that.
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>>549345185
Honestly they could have avoided this entire problem if they just had void shadows kick in after footfall.
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If owlcat has three teams what is the rogue trader team going to work on once the dlcs come out in a few months?
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Jimmy femcel...
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Dogmatic=Mitch McConnell
Iconoclast=Elizabeth Warren
Heretical=Ilhan Omar
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>>549346425
Rogue trader 2
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>>549346425
>once the dlcs come out in a few months
ha ha try at least a year
>what is the rogue trader team going to work on
seeking new jobs hopefully
they could try to pull off sp3 but i don't think there will be any demand if future dlcs will be like lex in quality
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Dogmatic=Trump
Iconoclast=Nixon
Heretical=Obama
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Dual Wield warrior in DAO mogs rogue so hard it's not even funny.
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>>549346276
I feel like you are getting executed on the spot by an Inquisitor if they find out, sound like some weird chaos cultist ritual
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Why didn't they make solomorne a stern big titty black woman romance? Did owlcat learn nothing from the success and critical acclaim of voidshadows?
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>>549347249
hey got bullied by like 2 fags who play their games
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>>549347249
He's hands down the most boring companion Owlcat has ever done.
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>>549343225
You spend a lot of time thinking about elf cocks and their size?
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>>549347004
Nah. You have more buttons to press but rogue just deletes stuff with its boring ass auto attacks
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Which way Vikings bros? Also when's the next Expedition game? I really liked Rome and I'm enjoying Vikings right now.
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>>549348556
If I remember correctly both of them give you kids in their endings and your bloodline goes on to become famous. But blondie is a baby factory and gives you a bunch of kids while the witch isn't as fertile and ends up only giving you like one or two.
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>>549348556
seeing mediocre games insert romance where it isn't needed just to chase that $$$ gives me second hand embarrassment
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>>549344231
That's because I'm a monkeh, it's in our nature
plus your pic rel is also thinking about it non-stop
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Expeditions: Suburban Ohio
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>>549331872
>call Aerie the cute childlike one
>she's actually the horniest by far
>there's even a line about her relentlessly fucking Gorion's Ward like she's a bunny in heat
>she even gets pregnant immediately
And when you consider the fact that she's an elf too, you realize just how much of an anomaly she is.
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>>549348216
No but the game spends a lot of time talking about it
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>>549348881
Is there a name for this mental illness
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>>549349075
>mediocre games
Vikings was kino
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>>549349802
>rumors
human propaganda nothing more
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>>549349806
I can't breedism
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>>549349802
Hardened Leliana was such a slut it was kind of silly.
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>>549331872
>voice is ambrosia
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>>549349992
That dialogue of Zevran hitting on Lelima only happens if you are romancing Leliana. It's meant to be her btfoing and embarrassing him, she isn't flirting with him.
Similar to pic related.
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I can't respect DA's worldbuilding because half-elves are fake and therefore the consequences of rape are not real
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this is really what you guys talk about here?
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>>549350569
Elves are just short, skinny humans with pointy ears. And DA elves ears aren't even that pointy, it's not surprising that their offspring just look like humans.
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>>549350623
they are indian okay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EGWz_tqhhA
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>>549350805
>Elves are just short, skinny humans with pointy ears.
so what's the point of them being elves and oppressed
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Hey anons, I'm playing a Sorc in BG1. I currently have 16 Wisdom. Is there any reason why I should bring it to 19? or can I give a tome to Xzar to dual him to cleric.
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>>549350950
manlets never learn
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>>549350997
Wisdom has no effect on you whatsoever, except for RP purposes you could drop it as low as possible.
It's unfortunate, and I never found a mod that lets you use Wisdom for like, spell saving or anything.
So, I'd give it to Xzar unless you want to higher Wisdom for RP purposes or for your own dual I guess.
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>>549351412
NTA but isn't it good for Wish?
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Choose carefully /crpgg/
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>>549351580
Yeah but that's so late game by that time you have a billion other options. And playing just for something like optimizing Wish is soulless as fuck. But you're correct, yes.
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I never understood the obsession with wish. People have to roll in the high 90s because they need to dump useless points into wisdom alongside their main stats.
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>>549351706
>>549351580
And besides you could just chug a potion.
But, BG isn't for minmaxing. There's really no need and they are better games if you RP and headcanon things.
I've never done it but I could see dualing Xzar to cleric, but I'd personally only let him use spells that fit with him, so probably no buffing. But that's just my 2cents on how I think it's most fun to play.
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>>549344980
Not that many, only a few dozen
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>>549351628
I tried to keep both of them alive.
And then Leanna tried to kill me.
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>>549346425
Romance DLC
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>>549353060
One is ride or die
The other try and die
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>>549351628
Show her real form, deceiver.
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>>549353710
Did they really need to force us TF into a sexy succbuss with massive red tits visible in 1st person?
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>>549353710
>one tries to kill you
>the other betrays her creator for (you)
Here's her true self
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>>549354453
why no bush???
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>>549350997
Seems like a massive waste to dual any caster with another caster in bg1. Will you even be able to get enough exp to get your mage levels back by the time you get a tome?
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Life is adventure or nothing.
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>>549347004
Wait until you find the greatsword rogue builds
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wtf archetypes even work for single shot builds anymore? operative is a gutted mess and soldier doesn't mesh
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>>549356180
Just go for Assassin, the first archetype hardly matters.
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>>549356180
Literally nothing has changed with operative
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>>549344231
People always obsess with what they can never have
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>>549343120
Yes, I did pick her to be slaughtered for being retarded
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>>549294058
>What's your dream crpg?
A proper Arthurian CRPG in the style of the medieval romances. I'm talking fair maidens, evil fey, holy relics, the whole shebang.
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Can we all agree that spell thief is the best character archetype?
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>>549358502
how tf do you steal a spell? sounds stupid, anon
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>>549358745
Apply blackjack to nerd skull
Take spellbook
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Which Rogue Trader origin has the best drip?
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>>549356736
>never have
Just get a escort
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>>549359097
Psyker, because you can wear fire.
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Jae should have been a woman only romance
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Can Idira fucking stop exploding and knocking everyone with each Foresight use wtf. I don't remember perils of the warp happening so often back in the day. Almost ready to drop her out of the party
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>>549360016
>cassia for males
>heinrix for females
>jae for both
the classic mass effect 1 spread. only women should be gay or bi desu
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>>549360016
Jae is so hetero coded aside from 2 quips about Argenta that she barely passes as bi
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I like my dollies playersexual for maximum computer roleplaying potential
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>>549360685
homo opinion
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Romance I like = straight coded
Romance I don't like = gay coded
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>>549360341
Just be thankful you're not doing a grimdark run. Shit's unplayable with her.
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>>549360751
you ought to know
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>>549295292
i remember first playing this and thinking god damn this bitch is old do not want
now i am almost her age and want to fuck her brains out
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>>549360685
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>>549361256
His criticism here is a genuinely completely accurate criticism of how this general talks about romance.
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>>549361256
He's completely right
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>>549360402
>Jae for males
>Heinrix for females
>Yrliet for lesbians
>Ulfar for gays
>Cassia non romanceable because she's underage.
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>>549362463
>Ulfar for gays
Games Workshop status?
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>>549362614
Gay
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>>549361256
Find one (1) flaw on his logic
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>>549361256
He replaces it with shallow, masturbatory balance autism.
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>>549362671
There's literally nothing gay about dipping your bro
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>>549361493
He doesn't have any criticisms though.
The "gross" masturbatory romance he speaks of isn't even remotely present in games that aren't made in Japan.
He is once again trying to create something where there is nothing so he can come out on top.
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>>549364108
>anon can't read
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>>549364108
the average JRPG romance is way more vanilla than whatever the fuck owlcat, bioware & larian call a romance, you'll get a smooch and a fade to black at best
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>>549364287
At this point, I think I'd prefer a nice love confession, and a kiss on the cheek over the whole "I've decided I like you enough. Now have access to my holes" Shtick.
Something with some real heart behind it.
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>>549364550
Sawyer only has a void of insecurity where a heart should be so tough luck with that
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He read masturbatory and thought it was referring to literal eroge masturbation material and not the ego stroking unlock sex and pregnancy minigame that a lot of people reduce characters to
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>>549364764
You have no idea what you are talking about Sawyer, take your strawman with you on the way out
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Its not just that Sawyer is right, its that hes incapable of being wrong.
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>>549361256
I think the most amusing thing about this is the idea that Sawyer either watched enough harem anime to form an opinion on them or he just decided to shit on a genre based on the name only
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If Sawyer is wrong I don't want to be right
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SawYER
YERliet
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>>549361256
He is 100% correct, that's why he makes waifutards seethe
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Sawyer is the type of guy to call writing that doesn't pander to his interests as gross and then turn around and lecture everyone else about the importance of allowing writers to express their creative vision
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>>549365004
>h-h-h-h-arem animu is akshually very deep and a commentary ont eh cntemporary state of society. Y-you could only understand it if you watched it!
Get a grip
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sawyer loves moe
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>>549365574
Being able to express your """""""""""""""""creative vision""""""""""""""""" does not make you immune to criticism, waifutard. You can't even form a cohesive argument, you're so retarded
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>>549365004
I don't think it really takes much to form an opinion on harem shit. What you see in chapter 2 is what you're going to get in chapter 300.
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>>549365461
He is 100% correct in the most superficial sense of being correct, and if you stick to platitudes like "if you're going to do something do it right" you'll always be correct, but never say anything meaningful. It's like, what if all the writers decide their characters shouldn't be smoochable? Then you end up with a dry romanceless game nobody wants to play. Like Pillars of Eternity.
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>>549364550
>a nice love confession, and a kiss on the cheek
Yrliet if she was well written (she isn't)
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Which girl has the most classic fairy tale romance happy ending?
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>>549366064
It was really egregious that you couldn't romance Grieving Mother
I mean what was he thinking?
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>>549366064
>if you stick to platitudes like "if you're going to do something do it right"
He spends an entire paragraph on why he thinks the way most romance is in crpgs work is "not right". Cope, seethe, dial 8, waifutranny
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Sometimes I forget that all the seething about Sawyer isn't actually because of anything he's made but because he once wrote a single forum post critical of romance.
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>>549366179
Jimmy. You save him from the wicked witch (Calcazar) with the power of love and you live happily ever after
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>>549366179
Arooe
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>>549366264
Okay then why doesn't he do it right if he knows what's wrong with it? He had full creative control of PoE so why didn't he do it? Maybe he just sucks at his job?
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>>549365923
But as long as your creative vision resembles misery porn you are free of all criticism right?
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Tsk tsk tsk
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>>549366389
Not at all. "Waaah waaah why can't i stick peepee in vagoo" is not a criticism though
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Why wasn't the black woman bird thing in poe romanceable she would have been a favorite
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>>549366506
Good thing nobody is saying that then
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>>549366491
This is who Sawyer thinks he is
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>>549366617
sawyer wrote her and you know how anal he is about romances
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>>549366506
Well, why can't I?
If Grieving Mother was real I could fuck her.
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>>549367039
>has to ask google to play games for him
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>>549366617
Players don't want romances. They want non-stop balance, which PoE delivers.
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Arue is a great example of a well written romance that will turn you down if you don't approach her the right way.
If Sawyer had written her, he would give you the opportunity to flirt with her only for her to turn you down no matter what.
Then he would claim this is good roleplaying and writing.
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>>549367309
I dropped PoE1 after its tutorial
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Deadfire is GOOD
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>>549367487
In Sawyer's experience, that's how women always respond.
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Why did Sawyer write Yrliet?
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>>549368482
He wishes he did for sure
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Tides of Numenera had a child companion, nothing ever attempted before and since.
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>>549368482
Based her on his first gf (she became a lesbian after they broke up)
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>>549369023
Why does she look like elric?
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>doors actually lock at night
darn
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>>549343225
(((Elves)))
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>>549371156
What game?
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>>549361256
mowti understand sawyer hate
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>unclear dialogue options that don't have an obvious meaning
my favorite. or better yet, they say something completely different.
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smooching pallegina would have been more interesting than watching eothas swim or helping island shitters
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Where is owlcats wizardry like?
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owlSLOP could never make wizardry kino
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>>549372453
Wizardry likes are dead in the west anon
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Larian does dickhead companions much better than nice companions. I wish they hadn't made everyone in BG3 nicer.
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>>549366064
A problem with his logic of romance being something baseline masturbatory and intrinsic of bad character writing because it railroads any arc into "and then they want your dick, you win" is that 99.99% of any given RPG companion considers your their good time buddy by the end of a story because you can only rarely sprinkle in an instance of "please use this character who fucking hates you and will always hate you no matter what". A lot of his thesis is based around not compromising on character writing to stroke the ego of a player but none of his games are filled with that outside of his core belief in Pillars that the player should feel like a cuck at the end.
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In RT, should I have all the papers and books with me at all times or it's ok to store them at my ship?
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>>549373572
>A problem with his logic of romance being something baseline masturbatory and intrinsic of bad character writing
Did you even read the post
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>>549373891
That's his core issue in the context of "romance for everyone".
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Jae being bisexual and not a lesbian makes no sense.
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>>549374191
Jae does sound like gay I give you that.
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>>549374191
She seems super straight somehow
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>women's rights? More like women's wrongs.
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>>549374643
Jimmy wouldn't say that
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>I love making niggers explode with my mind
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>>549374807
Idira would say that
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>Ooooh it's time for them to RUN, my sweet!
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Any 40k powerscalers here? Which psyker discipline is the strongest in lore?
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>>549375434
Not sure if Jae would say that or not, because I never recruit her
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>standing out in the rain
yeah sure, your doing research buddy.
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>>549375446
A lot of the stuff around disciplines exists mainly in the context of the games and most of the canonically strongest psykers in lore nebulously do generic space wizard nonsense spanning everything from mind nukes to incomprehensible demonic [book cannot describe what is happening].
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>>549375446
That's not a thing in lore. Psykers are powerscaled based on these rankings and that's basically it, there aren't really specializations like that
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>>549375446
>Any 40k powerscalers here? Which ______ is the strongest in lore?
It's whoever the writer is most interested in at the moment and failing that whatever line of toys needs to be promoted. Happy to help.
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>>549374807
Her concept art looked better.
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>>549376324
Too hot sorry chud
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Powerscaling
Ulfar>the elves>idira>jimmy>pasqual>>solomorne>abelard >jae>argenta>kibbles
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Has tim Cain announced what game he is making at Obsidian ?
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Idira should have been like jostica were you can just fuck her on the side.
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Avowed had romance and none of you played it
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yikes, two years after release and only one real RT dlc. only going to honor the season pass sales with the low effort slop for rogue flop
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>>549377137
Avowed looked like hot doodoo asscheeks
UE5 games don't count, they might as well not even exist
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>>549377137
I played it!
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>>549377341
dont worry even though only lex sold, it sold really well. The next two dlcs budgets will be HUGE.
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>>549377429
>lex
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>>549377137
Lex somehow got better sales and higher peak then void shadows despite one having kibbles and the other one having solomorne.
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>>549377624
doubt, people thought the 2nd dlc would be as good as the first and got scammed. people dont get tricked twice see poe2
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>>549377429
My favourite crpg is joylessly masturbating while looking at steam charts
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The big redpill is that no one actually cares about romance. It's the cherry on top of the cake. If the cake is made of shit, the cherry doesn't do anything.
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>>549377624
because the season pass was 50% off when he launched and it was cheaper to get them both than to just buy Kibbles alone at launch
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>>549361256
My question is why won't he do something about it? In the next game he should just write what he considers a good romance and let's see what happens. Instead we get shit like outer worlds 2 with "and no you can't romance them XD" and back to square one
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>>549378384
"BG"3 disproves this entire retarded theory because its an absolute irredeemable godawful piece of shit game that sold 9 billion copies on romance alone
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>>549377624
Most people including myself wait for the entire season pass to release before buying and playing it
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>>549378384
It's the only thing most of this thread cares about but most of this thread also doesn't play crpgs to begin with.
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>>549378657
Cope
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>>549378776
post webms of enjoyable "bg"3 gameplay lmfao
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>>549378832
Cope
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Just drop solasta 2 already.
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>>549378832
I don't think I've ever played a crpg that a short clip could make fun. Did you forget you're in the autistic spreadsheet builds and text boxes general?
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>>549379113
I'm not going to lie and pretend to like owlcat games for the gameplay, though
I bought them for the waifus
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>>549378384
My stance it's sort of a generic staple of the genre at this point. I don't care if it's in or not but every CRPG that comes out that has gone out of its way to go "romance is gay" also ends up having shitty companions regardless.
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>>549376187
alpha plus psykers are above primarch from the description
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>>549379175
Why not just play visual novels instead of crpgs?
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>>549379669
That's basically at a level where it's immeasurable, I am going to guess that the emperor was at that level initially
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>>549379989
>have to do a significant amount of reading
>waifu probably has some kind of character flaw and drama involved because it's actual romantic fiction
Sounds too spooky for your average waifufag
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Is secret of the weepstone still coming out?
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>>549380323
>reading romantic fiction
you can't be serious
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Melta buffs pls
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You cant make fun of romantic fiction and be a unironic waifu fag.
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>>549380530
What did you think romance visual novels were bro
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Idira tickling her balls with my mind.
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>>549379989
because I watched anime when women forced me to and quickly realized that nips have like two or three plots and characters and that's it, they just reuse those ad infinitum, jap garbage is an actual waste of time
I want to play as an edgelord or a lady knight romancing women, not twinky mcfagbangs romancing uguu ghost schoolgirls
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>>549381145
You know there are western visual novel games right?
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>>549381332
yeah I played DE
Kim was an alright waifu
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>>549381332
oh yeah? Post at least 5
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Ifan ben-Wolfguy is like whatever the guy version of a generic waifubait companion is. This dude exists for no reason other than to be an inoffensively gruff and edgy sad boy love interest.
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>>549381538
sadly they failed to realize that a man failing or being sad is kind of ick
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>>549375751
She says that to her pet if you give her one. She's very pleased with it. If it takes damage she says
>Don't worry! I'll tighten your screws :D
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>>549376324
Looks like Rhianna
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>>549379989
>>549380323
I like CRPGs for the same reason I like reading novels.
I like being immersed into the world. And the main character having a love interest is part of that.
Playing a character or reading a book where the main character doesn't even have a love interest feels juvenile to me.
I don't need to be a big thing at all, hell I don't even want it to be a big deal, I am not reading a dating simulator. But it really needs to be there, or at the very least I need a reasonable reason for its absence.
Of course there are exemptions, but it's harder to get into a CRPG without it.
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>>549381796
From what I've seen I think he's actually very popular as a romance. People like that kind of sad and pathetic.
I'd like him more if he was more of a fuck up.
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>protagonist dying is a instant game over
>didnt save in a bit
darn
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>>549382584
>playing an extremely janky indie crpg
>isn’t saving every 5 seconds
You’re a fucking maniac
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How the fuck are you supposed to solve the sewer puzzle with the Motive Force? Pasqal isn't really helpful.
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>>549382729
Oh yeah I remember that. Just look it up. The instructions are poorly translated and kinda backwards. You basically have to follow a red cable and activate things as you go. But there's a decoy cable and it's kinda sneaky
Don't feel bad to just look up the answer.
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>>549382729
>>549383349
Guide if you want to use it
https://www.neoseeker.com/warhammer-40000-rogue-trader/walkthrough/The_Starport#:~:text=Warehouse%20Cogitator%20Puzzle%20Solution
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>>549383349
>>549383650
>instructions blatantly lie
I'm gonna assume this puzzle worked in Russian
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>>549382729
I somehow figured it out the first time and never bothered again
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>>549383984
Yeah the cable snakes past a switch that says LATCH the dampener instead of UNLATCH, but doesn't actually connect so you're supposed to go past that and leave it alone. Classic slavjank DM trap. The Unlatch switch is elsewhere. I think that's how it is
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How does owlcat manage to make such consistently bad puzzles?
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Owlcat should just make a wizardry like if they want to add in puzzles
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Name ONE good puzzle. That's right, there are none so stop putting them in crpgs.
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>>549384953
They try too hard. Making them simple and fast should be the key. People don't want to actually solve shit, only have a super secret badass item from it, often mainly for lootgoblin completionism reasons. So as soon as it is harder than most popular basic gaming puzzle everyone looks up walkthrough. And if it turns out the solution is autistic player gets annoyed and justified.
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An, Pyro psyker is so fun. I remember the Herald of Tzeentech fucking me up on my first run. My Pyro just roasted him then put the neverending burn on him and he just roasted to death as he teleported around.
Psykers feel like a cheatcode.
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Just replace puzzles with actual math problems
>solve this integral
and as you progress you unlock more powerful techniques like the chain rule and integration by parts
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>>549385469
>Psykers feel like a cheatcode.
They are
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>>549385469
Oh, didn't realize Orchestrate Flames makes ALL Burns permanent, even Argenta's Flamer. That's crazy.
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I’ve seen people say the rotating floor tile puzzle from bg3 was too hard
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>>549385628
It's not easy. 50% of the population is unable to solve it.
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>>549361493
>>549362091
Games are supposed to be fun and meet customer demand, not lecture them on morals
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>>549386137
>fun buzzword
Grow up
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>>549386294
but seriously that's Sawyer's major flaw as a game designer, he doesn't understand how to make something fun
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>There aren't any kleppas to be had.
fucked up world desu
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>>549299491
Imoen is all grown-up
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>>549299491
>romances gurl bosses
>gets gurl bosses
what did you expect
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>>549387194
>Lelianna
>girl boss
she drops her spaghetti constantly
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>>549387293
her whole demeanor?
it's fake anon
she's a cold-blooded killer honey trapping the unknowing warden
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>>549387423
>unknown
what part of continuously do you not understand? she drops it after you know of her games too. the warden is just too chad. her lies are saying marjoraine still outranks you. she never stutters with her.
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If I lived in Warhammer universe I'd probably be a cool psyker and then explode randomly.
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who cares what that french tart thinks
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>>549387835
based nathan
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800+ replies edition
>>549388419
>>549388419
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>>549387835
If I lived in 40k world I'd be a servitor
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>>549373783
Definitely store what isn't immediately relevant
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>>549385325
>People don't want to actually solve shit
I think the key is to let puzzle stuff be side content, and understood as totally optional. Something you can skip entirely or you can let it stew in the back of your mind while you go back about your main business.

The true problem with puzzles for me is how unimmersive it is. It always, without exception that I can think of, brings me out of being in the world and suddenly it's "me vs the developer." That's what I hate most about puzzles in CRPGs. Suddenly what I'm looking at, I see matrix-style as a level in the dev's level editor, and I'm completely pulled out of the experience, because the puzzles never really make sense in the context of the world.
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>>549386503
Says you, but I had lots of fun in Pillars 1&2. And New Vegas and Tyranny.
This whole thing of "my experience is the objective truth" thing is very tedious, and if it's not trolling, it's the sign of an extremely weak mind.
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>>549374643
>Women's rights? More like women's thighs
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>didn't scroll down all the way
>been replying in the dead thread
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>>549382729
>Yeah, haha, an admech magos just forgot, bro. Figure it out bitch
Owlkek office needs to get droned



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