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OP wants game to die...
I hate this game
>tfw no Cassius
is it tomorrow yet?
>sweep chaos>burnout>reroll epis
>spends all day bitching about a game you refuse to play
when are they making a cassius for straight males? fat tiddied bitch
Arknights Endfield will kill this game
They just gave up on trauma codes huh
>did you come to see the cats>no catscompensation when?
>>549294580Wait, is it actually going to be fun?
Yes, I want more epiphanies, yes, I want chaos to be even LONGER, yes I want the copy card even to be even *harder* to get.UNIRONICALLYKazena was made for us autistic card lovers, and that's a great thing!
Hugo was the worst newbie trap people actually fell for and I felt super vindicated when people moved to cassius.Hugo does literally nothing, all his cards are dogshit and his entire claim to fame was that he attacks once after Tressa while Cassius gives you valuable card draw and free cards which feeds into more daggers more agony more damage.
>farm for good mem frag substats>get shit>stop playing the game
>>549294431He's useless before E2 anyway
>>549294708ye
>>549294708Wait for the rewrites first
>>549294763>>549294808Based and same.
what is up with this Rajeet spamming clown slop now? It's always the fucking same with people with no creativity.
Uoooooooooohhh I'm feeling the b-word!
>>549294728i came for the milk
>>549294741no lol, it plays worse than other hoyosloppas and has the regular arknights writing
>thought there were no rewards behind the leaderboard thing so I didn't do it at all because I was busy and barely had the time to do 4 lab 0 runs>actually you do get a bit of event currency by running it each week
>>549295169BRICKED
>>549295169>you almost get 1 entire roll Wow
>>549294309You don't need cass for 500K, i did it easily with nia
>>549294763I'd argue it's because Hugo made chaos runs so much easier early on in the game's lifespan since he starts with his best and only card and doesn't require too much investment. Also everyone has Tressa, so the instant synergy was there.But yeah, Hugo is lackluster in a vacuum.
People need to start differentiating between the cumulative 500k and the 500k pts highscore rewards
Any day 1 players know how much the final research node costs per level? The second sands of time node. I rerolled second week so I missed out on the first round of nono's shop
Be a good Cutie
Male pic in my OP? Are you guys okay?
>>549295338>"easily">farmed 1 in 100 run god decks lollmao even
>>549294825Oh nooo, my 40% heal on draw.
OP here. Fine, I wont ever use a Cassius image again. I thought maybe we could branch out and possibly rope in some card game autists if they see a robot with cards on the catalogue, but I'll just stick to goonbait OPs when I make them.
>>549294201he sure does anon, he sure does
>>549296121>losing out on 10+ daggers a turn
>>549296002It is pretty easy, rhe only thing you need is a hunger and a copy of adagio, you can ignore all the restAdd to the fact that forbidden cards always appear now2-4 runs at most
>>549296152Card game autists aren't going to care about images either way, they are physically incapable of seeing anything besides rules text.
OP here. Does anyone have any? I ran out.
Man it's always these hours where the thread goes to shit
How many basics do you aim to remove when farming Chizuru decks? I tend to find that duping the draw divine on Tsukuyomi ends up taking too much save data and ruin my saves
>>549296248...and 4 removes...and a bunch of epiphanies the fact that you're not posting your actual deck is all the proof I need that you're full of shit and your actual deck is way better than that This is the same shit as when whales go nah bro it works with 0 dupes when they have maxed dupes and insane stamina swiped fragments giving them 5x the damage of a low spender
>>549296152I never give a shit when I make an OPIf I am gonna make a thread then i'll make it with whatever I felt like at that given time and if you don't like it then make next one yourself
just bee urself anons
>>549294708They will use it for non-event characters.
>>549296240It doesn't generate daggers. In the first place, you don't want too many daggers either, you're hard-limited by your hand size and draw way too much anyways.
>>549296558Only the shield, the upgrade too if you want to do a non-bind build
>>549295169Please tell me you're joking I don't even want to open the game to check now
>>549296672Yuki sex
Boy howdy. You guys sure missed a lot.
>>549295152
>>549295582Can you make a viable damage build with her?
>>549296832>multiple rolls in this stingy as fuck gameunironically bricked
>>549296893Aw, it's only 2.5% (avg) of a 5*.
>>549296832So that's where I got all my extra stuff at
>>549296893>multiple rollsThat's not even 2 rolls.
>>549296240The most simple, straight-forward card description and we still have retards like this.
>>549294580didn't they ruin the game with some jewish as fuck gacha or something?
>>549296647It does>>549297063Retard
>>549296647>you're hard-limited by your hand size and draw way too much anywayswhat do you mean by this? i don't play either of these characters. don't you just play the daggers after you draw them?
How do some people manage to get 20+ morale and resolve?
happy holidays from your canon wife
>>549297413Cassius
>>549297438why is she dead...
>>549297438Too early
>>549296152Just pick a good picture regardless of it being goon or not. Just never slop as people have slopfatigue nowadays.
>>549296832so this is where the 240 rolls are at...
>>549297063does this increase damage taken
>>549297596
>>549297640>good>r*noa
>>549297438I want her Christmas alt and I want it now.
>>549297438adding slop to the original picture just kills the artstyle. It's iconic because of it, goranears art is fantastic.
So where are the compensations for chinks cheating 220+ decks while I have to sell my sovl to get a single copy of shadow reload
more like L-noa
>>549297860No mistletoe?
Should I farm xp to get my charecters to 55+ or keep working on potential materials?
I swear there was a chinese guy rank 1 with about 1,3 million points on leaderboard, now hes gone. Cheater?
>>549297935i can't draw...
>>549297278You clearly don't play the game. Where in the fucking card does it say it heals? If you're so confident that a non-healing skill draw card with E2 generates daggers, then provide some clips.I'll be waiting forever, cause I know it doesn't work.
>>549297935here is the original drawing for people not into slop or shitty resizing
I've been farming potentials for 8 days now and I still need more
>>549298041
>>549298150>go waste 200 rolls to "debunk" my schizo ramblings hmmmm nyo I don't think I will
>>549298164we get it you're trans
>>549298097shut fak up bich, china never cheat always #1
>>549298121Pick up a pencil then do a doodle over it. If you can write, you can draw even scribbles, and these scribbles will have MUCH more meaning and heart than any slop ever done. Oooor as an alternative, you could learn to Photoshop, which also has it's own artistry behind.
>>549298164*smooch*
>>549297393It's complicated. Well, not really, but it kinda is. Cassius quest wants you to play three 0-costs.In average Tressa deck, you'll generate either two or three daggers per heal (4 reloads is mostly a brick for leaderboard boss). Meaning, most of the time you'll proc the quest once per heal with the daggers.However, the team is also heavily depends on dice trick upgade, to generate other quest cards, for draw and morale/resolve. Meaning, at the quest completion, instead of one card, you'll get three to four, depending on how many upgrades you run. Meaning, you will often just burn those bonus cards if you have too many other cards in hand. And since Cassius generates 0-cost draws too, you'll draw your entire deck quickly, filling your hand. There aren't many cards in this setup that you just plan and not generate/draw anything from it. And you'll end up losing both daggers and quest cards from hand overflow.Basically, you don't want too many daggers since the quest will also proc with Mika's 0-cost heals besides daggers, and the less quest cards you burn the better, since at the end of the day, Cassius is the real carry of that team.
just nerf cassius, nobody wants to play a homo anyway
>>549298253>didn't even have E2 Cassius to prove otherwise>starts making shit up in this generalYeah, classic /vg/, next you're gonna tell people Mika's Whirlpool generates daggers just cause it heals.
I like playing as the based robot and don't care what incels thinkMuch better to play the funny robot than AI generated bitch with her tits out
Cassius is cool and fun
>>549298228*smooch*
>>549298427oh that makes sense, thanks for the explanation
>>549297438>canon wifeThat is Rei now.
>549298823You will never get any new m*le unit btw, disgusting homo
What partner and artifact combination does Chizuru want?
>>549297438My canon wife is Yuki
>"Hey devs, change this...">Implying the devs are here>Implying the devs know English>Implying even if the devs knew English they'd ever want to come to this shit holeChaos Zero Fucking Common Sense
>>549299254>"yes" pillowToo cute
>>549296883I mean if you cope hard enough, since you will always have a few cards in the hand, and Softie is an additive buff, you can get the forbidden card that +1 hit for every 4 cards and draw 1, should be pretty good
>>549299159Zatera with 2 atk/2 crit damage is more than enough
>>549298164
What's the best team to farm cassius decks?
>>549299686Mika + your DPS of choice.
>>549299686Your best DPS+Mika, Veronica, maybe Khalipe
:^)
>>549299321I am a dev and I'm noting all your complaints just so I can do the opposite.
>>549299515Huh. What do you use as the third set then?
>>549299515>>549299159seth scarab kinda good too because her normals are strong if it's convenient for you to run. new void set is trash, old void set doesn't work on her.
>>549300050Seth's Scarab but whatever that has the best sub stats really
>>549298253NTA but I have E2 Cassius and his E2 heal does not trigger Shadow Daggers, that anon is correct.
>>549300050it's really flexiblei personally like the set that increases basics by 20%, but the health set bonus is good too
>>549299867>>549299948I'm getting chaos Mika fatigue...
I WANNA ROLL BUT I DON'T WANNA RISK GETTING CHIZURUFUCK ME
Are there any non Mika teams that can clear first half without insane decks?
Selena anus status?
when are we getting a Passion controller?
Does Cassius use Hp/Def memory fragments or Crit ratet/atk?
>>549300475yuki/rei/nia
>>549300404what's going on in that pic
>>549300494Small and cute
>>549296152You're getting peer pressured by one guy, you're not gonna make it far in life
>>549300542>without insane decks?READ NIGGA READ
>>549300475First half isn't that hard to just clear, you do need the crazy decks if you want to clear as fast as possible.
Pro tip for farming deck:Dont remove any basic cards in exterior. They cant be copied so you want to keep them until you clear the exterior boss. Instead remove any card that is not unique or does not get any unique epiphany
>>549300494Hairless and fragrant
>>549300648they don't need insane decks
>>549300692Anon is 2 weeks late to it.
>>549300549https://x.com/ChiefofIsaac/status/1804673474616566202
There is still so many character I have to build...
>>549300475My decks are good but my Khalipe/Rei/Nia clears in 5 turns. If you just want to clear it, you just need decent damage and aoe.
>>549300704Noooo....
>>549300767They do. Without AP god epiphanies up the ass you can only play 1 Ice Cleave + 1 Flash Slash per turn and that's not enough damage to clear in 5 turns. You don't even get to play any Predator Blades >>549300683I meant in 5 turns to not cuck the 2nd half
No epi until dogman in interior!Kazena YES!The game is fine the way it is!
>>549296832It's better rewards than you get for doing 4 lab 0 run Honestly the game is starting to feel like a chore with all these "do this shit each week for a pull and half and like a level worth of XP and gold"
>>549301165But why...?
>>549301440>AP god epiphaniesYou can replace that with Hunger. Hunger is relatively easy to farm and a very good card on Nia decks.
>>549301663It's been like 10 runs since I've seen hunger And you also need to luckshit conversion in the same run to get rid of all the dead cards Nia has
Its that time of the week when Beryl humiliates Judas 10
>>549302289my wife beryl is so cute and strong
>>549294121in this event I believe I read some anon write that middle is actually a divine epiphany, a translation issue. Now, is this true? Or am I misremembering it with another event?
>>549302645If it's not gold, it's not a guaranteed divine epiphany. Don't bother.
>>549302645Middle is good for you to reset after whiffing an epiphany
I've played a lot of games and I think CZN is either in the running for or has THE most toxic positivity I've ever seen.
Beryl...
>>549302645well?
>>549303062She looks stuck in this vending machineI'll help her
>>549303082Middle, shame the divine didn't land on it
>Honestly the game is starting to feel like a chore>CZN is either in the running for or has THE most toxic positivity I've ever seen
slopjeet's losing his mind for like two days now, what's up with him and his clown fetish
>>549303581He's right though...
>>549303298>>549303062god I wanna pick up Beryl and have her pee in my mouth
I'm a big bad wolf
>>549301457suck it up or go fuck yourself
SE NOUCHIMASUUCHIMASUUCHIMASUUCHIMASUUCHIMASU
>>549303640nah he's been making strawmen for days now, it's kinda embarrassing at this stage
>quoting someone 1 to 1 with a clown picture attached is a strawman
>>549303387this but unironically
Good vibes only! I love Chaos!
>"I've played a lot of games and I think CZN is either in the running-">*punches a hole through your chest*
slopclown is alright opinions wise, it's only his fucking slop that can make his posts disgustingseriously, aislop fatigue is extremely tiring nowadays
>already dropped to 192900k will be diamond rank on the last day
Why is the schizo shitposting the threads 24/7 acting like he enjoys the game
>thread is only active in SEA hours
>>549304756it's like 3 in the morning for them
Stop being weird. Just act normal.
>>549304889That's the point, this shits dead
im gonna fuck rin
I didn't get the behavior epiphany even though I did the extra boss.
>>549304736I wish they would show what the minimum score for each rank is. I'm at 855k and not sure if I need to continue dumping resources into Cass/Tressa...
>>549304756There is nothing to talk about... literally nothing other than the leaderboards...
Does this proc Tressa's knife on heal?
>>549304736cyan looks better anyway aruji-dono
How much you wanna bet that the new tower content is gonna want you to have a Vanguard with First Aid Kit?
The gameplay is so fun farming chaos for all these unique builds but there's nothing to talk about. On a Sunday.
Does reset fuck up in progress chaos runs? I had a really good run going and did temporary return after first boss and now it seems like it's gone. I have no option to return, just start a new run like it was never there.
What do I look for in a Nia deck for Renoa?
>>549305264no skills only
>>549304736I was 217 yesterday and dropped to 338...
>>549304736I don't get how these teams clear first half without AoE. Do you just have insane damage and ignore the mobs or something?
>>549305276shut the fuck up I didn't come all this way to the SS Nightmare just to become a platlet again
>>549305384You might've accidentally canceled returning to the chaos which would mean the run is gone yes...
>>549305684>Do you just have insane damage and ignore the mobsYes.
>>549305524dang
>>549296832huh, guess I got lucky going for a 3rd run yesterday even though I knew I can't go over 200k without a gimmick build
>>549305713I didn't accidentally do shit. I did temporary return after the boss and now I log in and there was no option to return.
>>549305264You have to ask yourself these questions first; keep note for any future healing shadow reload shenanigans.1. Is it a Skill card?2. If it is a Skill card, does the card itself heal?Hand-holding answer: No
I do all my weeklies in a single day and then I shitpost here the other 6 days
>>549305865I've never returned from a chaos before so I don't know to be honest...
>>549305959with how confusing some card descriptions are, I was holding on to hope that MAYBE other heals work toobut I kinda guess that it wouldn't because heal from one of Mika's attack card also doesn't proc it
>>549305959But what if it's an Attack, and it kills an enemy before it does damage to me, so I have more HP, so if you think about it that's just like healing? Does that generate a dagger?
What's a good Chizuru team? I'm a Veronicalet.
A lot of you niggas cannot read
i cant read
>>549306551Rei Cassius Mika Tressa
>>549306551depends on what build you want for hercurrently all high ranking chizurus are using the basic attack spam deckfor that, its Rei + 1 DPS with lots of attack cards
i am indeed a nigga
>>549306590Speak up.
For me its BATTOU
>>549306406No, it explicitly states getting healed by SKILL cards. It's why Mika whirlpool doesn't give daggers because it's an attack.
>>549306908YOU NIGGAS! CANNOT!! READ!!!
fucking hell i hate this goatnigger how do they expect me to kill him right before the first waypoint when all i have are basic attackslab 0 is cancer
>>549307020Okay fine then what if I buy a skill card from the shop then rest at the campfire, thus healing my HP, do I start the next battle with free daggers?
>call out thread for being dead>suddenly multiple posts every other minutehmmm...
>>549307229all me btw
NO NO NO NO NO THE RUN WAS GOING SO WELL FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>549306778>>549306830Thanks. Could I use her with Mei Lin? Is the 1st or 2nd event Chaos better for Chizuru? I didn't unlock the second yet. Yuki being bad kinda broke me for 2 weeks.
>>549307391left is good for tressa infinite daggers
chaoszeronig
>>549294708Wasn't there leak of a Luke one? That was why I thought Lucas was on Yuki banner, otherwise it makes no sense.
>>549307532yeah it works great but you need a specific mei lin deck to use her with chizuruget the kick epiphany that adds +2 hits to basic cards, ideally a copy of that + 2 copies of Move unityThen a Rei deck that buffs basic cards
>>549307532Lab 0 is pretty gud, but if you want more consistent runs (but longer) you can do city of mist in the zero system. Both are good imo so do whichever you like more...
This game is too hard.
>>549307759>>549306904when do we get a male nig?
So guys after Chizuru release have been any new leaks?
>>549307229they were all stuck in the old thread....
>>549307937with this deck wouldn't Create be better than Move for Unity?After all in this case you want all the basic cards you can get
>>549308303I haven't messed around with Create but I imagine if it keeps the 0AP it'd be better yeah, probably
Left or middle Yuki bwos?
>>549305513Discard all highest cost Extra attack on discardDiscard 1 draw 2 of that combatant
>>549308465reroll
>>549307937i won't farm another completely different mei lin deck i won't farm another completely different mei lin deck i won't farm another completely different mei lin deck
How to build for a Chizuru+Tressa+Mika team?
>>549308465>no 2 hit inspoI'd take left
Is this not a crazy card for Tressa and Cassius? So many draws and then generates a shit ton of daggers.
>>549309248this one doesn't generate daggers
>>549308465left, best would have been -1 cost +3 morale
>>549309248it's not a skill card
>>549309248Bro read Tressa's card please
>my naked mika cassius tressa team is doing much more damage than my high effort chizuru and her partnerA-At least Chizuru is fun to play haha...
>>549309879This is the face of someone getting surrounded by multiple men with lustful eyes
>>549296152use whatever images you wantany image is fine as long as it's not a shitpost image
>>549310050
NIGGA I WAS BATTLING CTHULHU GET ME THE FUCK BACK INTO THE BATTLE
We need more ways of getting resources. What we have now is far too limiting
this is the average you get when trying to farm one good deck, counting the no-boss copy 150 reset
A REMINDER:https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1pgm098/remember_that_your_season_decks_will_be_unusable/great threadthe sooner the gachagamers leave, the better.
>>549310152Chinks are raping the servers currently, you'll have to wait until devs find a way to fix it. They won't ban them since chinks are immune to any consequences of cheating.
>always thought the save data system was fine because I wasn't speedrunning meta>raid comes up>it's impossible to clear even 60k without cheesing with the tressa team as f2p>spend an entire day in chaos farming shadow reload and source of water decks>get nothing to show for it
>>549310795You still on firefox, bro?
I hate the firefrog
>seriously, aislop fatigue is extremely tiring nowadays>Just never slop as people have slopfatigue nowadays.
>try tressa on the leaderboard boss (2nd half) >get gigaraped with the boss attacking me 10 times in one turnwhat the fuck
>>549306830>the basic attack spam deckQRD? What do I want for that other than make 2 basics epiphany
>>549310795The save data system should only apply to daily mats farming. Then people will be less sweaty about running the meta. Problem solved.The next raid will have people scrambling to farm the next meta deck and burning out in the process, they can nerf tressa or cassius all they want but that won't fix the root problem.
>>549310795>gacha gamers leave>devs shit their pants and scramble to get the money back>they start going the bd2 routethis is unironically a good thing
>>549309879>>549310130Rei of Light is no more. Now she is the Rei of Darkness...
>>549310795so much text for so little content
A or B, Brickibros?
gbt leddit faggot
Best I could do time to gigacope>>549311738Literally how? I run out of turns before boss is even close to kill me
>farming a new deck every 60 days is too muchsee this time i didn't attach a clown, so it's not a strawman
>>549312264>the bd2 route>aka the Snowbreak routePitifully bad gameplay, but lewd? Nyo...
>>549312494I feel bad for anyone who's into the final character of a season, you'll only get 2-3 weeks to build and enjoy her before needing to do it all over.
>>549312494This wouldn't be an issue if it was actually "farm a new deck" and not "farm Tressa/Mei Lin infinite combo again"
wait does agony scale with morale?
>>549313249No.
I love Yuki
>>549313249no, but since tressa throw so many 50%atk daggers and morale is flat +20%atk, it's still good to have some morales for her.
>>549313412what if she burped right in your face
STREAMERS GET 4 SHADOW RELOADS AND WHAT I DO GET??? 4 COCKS IN MY ASS!!!!!!!
>>549311204if you cant get over 60k without tressa you need to start levling your unit above lvl 20
>>549313684*SNIIIIIIFFFFF*
>>549313764but you won
>>549313412why did they censor her for this? lazy niggers probably didn't want to make a second version for cn
>>549313249No, but with enough morale her daggers will out damage the agony.
If I delete Whirlpool can it fucking come back via epiphany?
>no AoE card in deckmy time has come
>>549314197>via epiphanyhuh?
>>549314325You know how epiphanies give you new cards at first? Can that give you deleted cards?
>>549314203Nevermind apparently my past self was a seer, good thing I picked this because the upgrade wasn't on selection
>>549314408Nah you only get it once. But even your basics can give epis, so only with an empty deck you are free of that character's cards.
After testing lots of Chizu builds, this one feels the best imo, but the basic attack spam comes close second
>>549314568i hate that you guys are so lucky with these decks while I struggle so much just getting the right epiphany
>>549314568>after testing, the deck everyone thought would be the best on day 1 is, in fact, the bestdang... i coulda told you that amigo
>>549314568Perfect one is lucking out to get both +2 hit and bonus stacking imo but obviously is just ballbusting to grind for.
>>549314029It looks like a different outfit to me, the CN version is even worse and almost looks like AI sloppa. You should see the other characters’ censored versions, they even took away Cassius’s lower jaw lmao
>>549312415This is the top Yuki deck right now
>>549314929Save that for when they give us a dupe at the start of a run.
Is this epi any good? I had a decent deck going until I picked this shit without noticing that it doesn't generate any bullets. Is it meant to be for subdps renoa or something
what are good weapons for tressa
>all combatants 50 with right main stat frags and decent decksnyoo... my content...
>>549315443Let's see that top 1% sticker
>>549315546We're not even past the first half of the leaderboard event, bwo.
Cassius will be on next banner, right? Mine is still E0.
Right or middle? Does the middle one create a random one or the chosen quest? If so this can snowball really fast, right?
>>549315546hmmmm....nyojust because the game still has crush your cock with a rock type content left doesn't mean I'm gonna do itI was just shitposting because I went to go do my weekly Lab0 and came to the realization I don't NEED to farm decks for any of my combatants anymore. I mean I'll still try to improve them to give the run a purpose but I could just play the game now
>>549300692>we're now gimping our other characters decks just so we don't get fucked over by rng, but we can still get fucked AND we make the chaos way hardernot sure what to think about this
>>549316164Middle is one of the most powerful effects in the game. Copy it once or twice if you can.
>>549316164explode
>>549303387the most is definitely wuwa or genshin, but this is coming up for a close second from what I've seen
>>549316164fuck you
>>549316164middle is the best
>hourglass retry break the rift>changing configs break the rift>closing the game and opening again break the riftnice code bro
>>549296832They can keep it, I don't want to do this fucking chore every week, thank you.
>>549296832>just do the boss oncewhat's the big deal
>>549317491smug idiot, you need to respect his time
>>549310795>Make an exhausting and repetitive "gameplay loop" based on getting the best RNG upgrades during a chaos run with zero guarantees whatsoever, you really just need to get lucky.>Expect the players to do it over and over and over for every new boss content that they release.>Players do it once, get burned out>Don't want to do it again, stop playingWTF DUMBASS LAZY GACHA PLAYERS? DON'T WANT TO RUN THROUGH THE SAME SHIT DOZENS OF TIMES EACH WEEK? ENTITLED LITTLE SHITS!
>>549317592I'd rather do the fat blob once than play 4 dogshit chaos runs in lab 0. Now that puts me to sleep.
>>549317491>onceit's weekly bro
>be me>tries to make Machine Gun Beryl again>got epi>got 3rd dupe>run ruined by dogman and seppy(chutlhu man) back-to-backI hate it.
>>549317725for a whole TWO WEEKS!!!!!!
>>549294741bedbreaking sex with carroty
>>549317860hoooooooooly......if i have a gf who looks like beryl.........
>trim my deck for rearguard supports>draw pile is filled with trash from hitting the bossShit man, what am I supposed to do if I'm not using Tressa Cassius to cheese out the gimmick
>>549317860anon if you got the 3rd dupe you're done
If you were to remove a neutral card, does its cost get subtracted from your save data cap?
It finally appeared... but now I need to copy it THREE times!
>>549318248you're good enough with one copy but yeah try to get as many as possible
i don't have it in me to do the weekly lab zero runs anymore.................
>>549318248You only need 1 or 2 copies. Anymore is just wasted
>>549318382and you know why? because youre stinky hehe
>>549318353>>549318456nah you need 3 to Cassiusmaxx every turn with Mika running your engine with her healspam skill cards.
>>549318106Sorry, I meant 2nd dupe.I was nearly at the end almost at ghe last rest stop.Why does dog master do a bazillion damage anyway despite ckearing all his dogs?
>>549318584I just have two shadow reloads and that's good enough to 600k+ the fat fuckBut if you want to go for the saar sticker, yeah, you'd do better with 3+.
>10 away from standard S>fuck it I'll spend gems>Luke e1no pakeji for you smilefrauds
>>549296002My Cassius is e0 and I have 700k
>>549318584Yeah, 3 I ideal because 1 heal is a Cassius quest. But 2 works if your heal is 0 cost.
>Call the cops>This fat ass shows up
>>549318382the gameplay loop of spending 30 hours to get a deck to do shitty content doesn't appeal to me.
>>549318840I said it once and I'll say it again.If she looked like THAT, I would've pulled. But they didn't want my anchors.
>>549318984No gacha is brave enough to have real meaty sluts
>>549319262I would empty my bank account.
>>549319262But Nikke did it with Bready.
>>549312415>>549315074Your dopamine gun??
>>549319426The loads ive lost to this artist numbers in the hundreds
Bros, who is the most generally good damage dealer to build? I have Yuki, Rin and Khalipe and every 4*. So far I used Tressa the most, but fighting against multiple enemies is kinda painful with her and she accelerates enemies actions so much.
>>549319554Rin
>>549319550It's good to know that a fellow scholar also plays this game. You GET where I'm coming from. Unironically top 3 artists of all time for me.
>>549300475I did it with Mei Lin, Rei, Veronica. No additional ap from cards. I have 2 of Mei's multihit card. First one breaks the boss, gives me 1 ap which is enough to use the second one. Rei's ego skill also gives you ap to get that morale for you big damage turn. I wish I had Veronica with +ap repose
>>549319426share a good doujin of this artist
>>549319554>>549319651I find it really funny how everyone stoppes calling Rin a brick when Yuki became playable. Now everyone knows what a REAL brick looks like.
>lab0>the gameplay loop of spending 30 hours to get a deck to do shitty content doesn't appeal to me.
Finally, the first copy...
>>549319789>I have 2 of Mei's multihit card.
>>549319810Rin was never a brick.
>>549319554Generally Yuki's good.>AoE>minor multihit with Iceberg Slash>compatible with all current controllersRin is better for single-target but isn't general-use imo because of stance. Khalipe's a Chaos wheelchair unless you dupe VE two times.
>>549319262
>>549318871i mean i like getting save data for content when it's low-moderate difficulty content like basin or weeklies. this 500k stuff is just not really fun.
>>549320175yeah I love watching this during the 30 seconds of auto gameplay
>so pissed and bored at this infinite lab 0 grind that I installed trickcalIt's over...
>>549320374Why are you in Lab 0? Building supports?
>>549320175GFL2 is genuinely the worst gacha I ever had the displeasure of playing for more than a year. Hell, I’ve played gacha games for half that amount of time and still enjoyed it more than GFL2.
>>549319554Yuki is good but takes too damn long to get going without someone drawing cards for her
>>549319804Panda isn't loading for some reason so this is for nh 444195
>>549320374You don't play this game redditkal shill.
>>549320175I love the sag but that isn’t the meat to which I beat my meat
>>549319520Yuki has been solved, she's a morale merchant her own damage doesn't matter.
>>549320374>went from a game with tons of gameplay to a game with 0 gameplayenjoy your multiple hours of autoing and alt tabbing
>>549320374But you only have to run it a few times a week.
>>549320374retard nigger you posted about that trash last thread but you were banned
>>549318126Converting a card to neutral cost 10Removing the 1st/2nd/3rd card cost 0/10/30Then if that card is part of the character original deck, +20 cost gets addedSo removing all 3 basics cost 100 but if you manage to convert them into neutrals before removing them it only cost 70
>izzat brigade immediately spergs outTrickcal won
>>549320468Because the game is forcing me with it's weekly reward bullshit Also correct me if I'm wrong but in practice, I could run the normal void planet, enter a dimensional tunnel and I still would get a deck that can be used for event content?
>>549310795Phalanks posts here, I swear I've seen that exact post here.
>>549319920You only need 1 copy of unity and one copy of multihit. Boss doesn't get damaged from mulhits that are >7
>>549320984There’s a lot of cross contamination of Reddit niggers especially on /vg/. That’s just how it is.
>>549320972>I could run the normal void planet, enter a dimensional tunnel and I still would get a deck that can be used for event content?Yes. Epiphany rates are still the same as Lab 0 though, you just don't notice it because the copy event is pretty much guaranteed so you don't think about it too much.
>>549320483I enjoyed it quite a bit for the first six months, the trouble is they actively make it worse. At the start we had thoughtful XCOM combat with limited characters against strategic enemies like Creepy Doll, but now we have Klukai and the big bear instead. More relevantly, not only has the XCOM combat gone backwards, but the focus has been on inventing new types of gameplay which all involve gratuitous daily or weekly chores. >the SIMS mode where you have to log in every day and make coffee and food and talk to characters just to get activity points>Tarkov mode where you have to spend at least a couple of hours per week killing 7 bosses and scouring 35-60 levels of boxes scattered around trivial but time-consuming enemy mobs>roguelike mode where your choices don't matter at all, the encounters are totally unvaried, and your own character investment/account building is irrelevantCZN is a breath of fresh air after all that. Imagine a game that actually just commits to one style of gameplay and works toward mastering it.
>>549321157Do you need to get a forbidden card too or is entering the tunnel enough?
>>549321242Just enter the tunnel. You're not guaranteed a Forbidden card too, just like Lab 0.
Who’s the most white man-coded waifu?
>>549317860What do I look for to make ''Machine Gun Beryl''?
>>549321534Mika for breeding
>>549321534Rei, Maribell, Serena or Khalipe. Take your pick.
>>549321534Jalapeno
>>549321576And that weapon that increases extra damage
>>549320767That's not my question.If you were to take a Confiscation for instance, then later on regretted it does removing it refund the 20 points for a neutral card?
There's a visual bug in the raid where if you reset your turn it removes the scoring penalty (and doesn't calculate your score properly at the end? not sure about this one...)
>>549321576something like this. and mine sucks because i got a bad charged shot and no hidden bullet and only 1 basic remove
>>549321667>Maribell
>>549321157lab0 is still way better for farming because you can spam fish for the card you want to dupe.
>>549296832>this shit is weeklymy god am so bricked
>>549321162The only content I found moderately interesting were the puzzle events they would run every now and then. The gameplay itself could have become something strategic like XCOM, but they completely ruined the chance of that ever happening when they release Klukai like you said. It was already XCOM-lite and was missing a lot of elements that made those games engaging but they just destroyed any sense of depth with busted characters and turned it basically into auto mode. Not even the enemies added anything that was unique or interesting enough to forego brute forcing on auto. Don’t even get me started on Gunsmoke, the damage sponge mode that you have to run at minimum twice a day. That completely killed the game for me and me getting sick of it was 95% of the reason why I uninstalled it.CZN is nice because the gameplay loop is fun. It’s like I’ve done the exact opposite and am now playing a game which in spite of its flaws with RNG and balance, still has a solid core gameplay loop. The problem is that can only go so far. I played Helldivers 2 since it launched and I can say that it is very much possible for game devs to burn all of the playerbase’s goodwill and destroy the potential of a fundamentally good game with absolutely retarded executive decisions. We just have to wait and see.
>>549322137The direction of the game is precisely why I brought up all those additional gamemodes. GFL dealt with its gameplay being lacking by inventing multiple lacking types of gameplay, while CZN does seem to have active devs who are interested in improving the gameplay.
>>549321623she owes me an apology fuck for all the times she epiphanied whirlpool
Wait, is this better than the 30% with 4+ cards in hand weapon or worse?
this game isn't going to last much longer if the devs don't get their shit together
>>549321162That was exactly my experience with the game.The few couple of months were very fun, struggling to clear shit and finally succeeding was rewarding.But then Clunky comes out and starts oneshotting the whole map with a single attack, gunsmoke turned into a chore, gameplay stopped being about strategic placement and just devolved into cheese sloppa.
>>549322627SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU JUS TWANT TO SPAWN INTO BASIN WITH GOD TIER DECKS SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>549322627I got this phrase on my flashcard today...
something something burnout
sneed combatant
by making a zero-card deck for that slut Mika, I can now cycle my whole deck every turn, I finally see how it is
>>549322734gacha are supposed to be for casual enjoyment, not full time jobs
we need a bingo card
>>549322453it's her BiS
>>549322716I don't really get the Gunsmoke complaint to be honest. I mean it's shit for sure, but for that to be a reason why someone drops GFL2 is odd to me. Literally just don't do it, the rewards are minimal anyway. Or you can get all of them by autoing the level a handful of times every 3 weeks, sure it takes about 10 minutes but literally just alt-tab out.
>>549323041It was the straw that broke the camel's back.The game just stopped being fun at that point.
I would secretly put my penis in between every operator's boobs while they're in the middle of their schizo period.
>>549318745I wish I got Luke e1. . .
Proper cunny when?
>>549323153For me that was Phase Clash. Having to run 12-60 levels including 1-2 bosses 3x a week, and you can't auto, you have to pay attention, and you have to use basically pre-determined elemental teams. That is what killed it for me. Crew Deck is much the same, I hate that I can't even burn my stamina without loading into it to make sure that I'm getting the bonus food rewards.
>>549323178This is why (You)r SS Nightmare crashes and burns in the future, Rakesh.
My enjoyment of this game has dramatically increased since I started paying for 120 extra stamina per day using crystals., I will probably eventually stop once I have the entire roster at least at level 50 but for now it's giving me more of a sense of progress.
>>549322627Yeah, I'mma be real, I don't even know if I can make it to next banner. Already hate logging in.
>>549322025She dresses like a beach girl from 15-20 years ago
>>549323439The SS Paizuri will go down without any paizuri'd boobies.
The paizuri is ongoing…
DamnGetting a save with the chest piece for tressa made my team do 100k more points.Top 100 now. Gotta spruce up mika a lil though as im too low to feel comfortable
We got no fanart but it's funny seeing japs go through it too.
>>549296152We want more cassius. Hes carrying our scores
>dedicate weeks of time and resources to two 4* characters>for a sticker of a pile of shit>that you will never useThis is (you) btw.
It's a bit annoying doing the 4 weekly Lab 0 runs now that you can get save data on zero. I'd rather just run normal chaos instead of wasting my time.
>>549324186Japs are tryharding like crazy in this game. They really like it grindy, huh.
>>549324186kek
>>549304424I love Renoa
>Chizuru given at the event's Battle Missions has a retarded Upgrade instead of the one that decreases cost every turnThe FUCK were they thinking? AGAIN?You want to shill the character so give her a proper deck. Show how she can help like Mika instead of being a mega brick to your hand blocking extra AP and doing nothing.
Is this correct
>>549324330I also don't get why we need to do weekly 500k on the boss. Even on a non Tressa team it's a pretty long fight but you'll still use the same strat.
>>549324369Yes. Gives them stuff to do while on the train.Their lives are a grind already and a game with grind feels at home
>>549324314For someone who supposedly doesn’t care about this sticker, you sure spend an awful lot of time seething about it. Sounds like cope
what else
>Not adding epi rerolling>Not adding event rerolling >Not making it so you can refill sands with crystalsSeems like a missed transactional opportunity gachalords
>>549324471why the fuck would you use that tsukuyomi on multi-hit?
>>549324186Cassius shitposting transcends nationalities.
>>549324545Add slurper and 30%
>>549324447I think it must be something with their development cycle. Remember that Haru's trial had her with multiple different partners with several optimized decks and both Yuki and Chizuru just have a basic deck with no copies nor synergistic epis.
>>549324471No for +2hits you want the 60% dmg boosting single hit oni. Scales infinitely harder if u got a veron or nia capable of drawing your tsukus and it every turn.
Explain to me why being able to sweep dailies (that everyone here already auto) would be a bad thing without souding like an actual degenerate
Yuki won BIGLY btw
>>549324579Probably because it wants to maximize the number of willowisps he gets 12 from using that oni hunt
>>549324471The person who created that infographic did it correctly. They just didn't intend to help people.
>>549324545Brown people mentionedNTR mentioned“X is a brick”Free = OP is a Fag
>>549324696It wouldn't but it's such a small issue it's not even top 10 things I want them to change so it's very weird to see people focus so much on it.
>>549324531Is laughing at your misery what you call seething?
>>549324545add "i love smilegate's dick in my asshole"
>>549324471She sucks ass. It doesnt matter what you build. I checked ther ladder and there isnt a single chizuru in top 100
>>549325004there isn't most 5*s on the top 100You should only be looking at the rearguard
That basically means tressa > e6s5 chizuru cant even check for good high score whale decks since they dont exist
>>549324545You forgot all the slurpers defending everything or saying >JUST UNINSTALL THE GAMEas if they were actually agents from a different game
FUCK this dogshit event, it said my score was 970k and then it dropped to fucking 850 afterwards? holy FUCK this game is so SHIT
>>549325161I think it's fine if 4*s are strong. What's not fine is when they vastly out perform the majority of the 5* roster.
>>549325004In order to have 0 card decks you need insane luck OR a person without the very first potential to start the run with a card.If chizuru would make it in top she would be a 0 card deck. And everyone and their mother raised their potential if they got her Veronica/nia with the 3rd having no cards is just that good. Or if the person is capable of doing everything on their own(such as yuki with the buffs and e2) then you want 0 other character cards.
There isn’t a single way to fix Cassius. His existence breaks the foundation of the game. Devs should just accept it and move on. The only character that could powercreep him is one with a kit full of Khalipe’s search Rally epi and neutral Attack! cards.
>>549325125Sure. But i mean chizuru is the first void single target dps that whales can more easily max out completely. And theres a void shill on side 2. To max a rin etc you would need to pull on standard banner. Yet shes completely absent
>>549325340I am and I want CZN to fail.
>>549324471>4 piece set>all the bound at dusk are -1 costLooks good to me
>>549325004>>549325416vanguard literally doesn't matter, retardchamaYou can put any meme combination there since all the points that matter are on the 2nd team (rearguard)Chizuru is the 3rd best 5* in the rearguard, only behind Mei lin and a whaled-up Kayron
>>549325441Very easily, cap quest completions per turn to 1-3.On top of other nerfs like unique for many game breaking upgrades and cards. Shadow reload, repose, etc
>muh nerfsWhy you niggas complainin, ya like bein weak or sumn?
How do I check my characters' decks and equipment when I'm in a Chaos run?
All shitposting aside, assuming the devs actually give a fuck, how do we fix the game’s balance?
>>549325795More titcows
>>549325597I wonder if they'll actually nerf characters. There have been zero mentions of trying to nerf anything on streams, so I'm curious whether they'll open that box.
>>549325795LESS GIANT TITS MORE REALISTIC PEACH SIZE TITSHEALTHY ASSES
>>549325795Just fix the Tressa - cassius interaction, the rest is always fixedthey broke Mei lin's legs, its why you don't see her on the 2nd team
>>549325795More boob windows and bare legs yes
>>549325795They need to actually step on some toes and make a nerf policy with good compensation.
>>549325897>>549325927Both are wrong, we need lolis to balance out the cows. In slutty outfits if possible.
We fix balance by doing the following:>no more leaderboard events>stop caring about balanceProblem solved.
>>549325795>how do we fix the game’s balance?Release characters that are as good as the release characters. It's okay if things in a PvE game are busted. People want to have fun. Let people have fun. Stop nerfing things just because people are having fun in ways you don't want them to have fun. Don't make the event chaos worse for epiphanies and copy events. Let people have fun. The game used to be fun. People want to have fun.
>>549325927This this this this thisBut also flatties please
>>549325949how do you "fix" something that's intended? it's not tressa's fault that she generates a metric ton of 0 cost cards. luke is also on this spectrum.
>>549325795make the weak characters stronger or make the strong characters weaker, duh
>>549325949Then, if Tressa-Cassius wasn't possible, who do you think would be the team for the second half?
>>549324471The new void set 4 pc is better if you pick all multi hit verisons of cards. Youll randomly get your 1 cost to cost 0 and your 4pc dpes nothing
>missed out on easy free shit because i thought it was a one time and done shiti can't cope, it's over
>>549326119That's how you kill the game
>>549325949If Mei Lin didn't have a restriction, she'd be top of the scoreboard.
>>549326058"Yuki is fine""Chizuru is fine""nerf Mei Lin / Veronica / Cassius / Tressa / Mika""melting down about pubes""defending or shilling a different gacha"
>>549326058>thread number mentioned
>>549326221strong options for 2nd team ignoring tressa cassius involve Mei lin with the basic attack build or chizuru
>>549325795Nerf the problems mei lin, cassius, and tressa. Give free gives because this will hurt you in the long run if you dont fix it. Do this and ill keep rolling every booba cow tits.
>>549325795Release all limiters by making Yuki's Subdue be able to search the "used" pile, Inhibit being replaced by drawing all her cards and discarding everyone else's for 1 turn, and Haru having AP gain built into Anchor Pointer
>>549326242>>>"Let people have fun">That's how you kill the gameI fucking hate 2025.
Is Chizuru's partner a considerable increase over the 3*?
>>549326440mei is already nerfed to the ground, its why you don't see a single one in the top 100 in the 2nd teamJust keep making bosses with the same 7-hits thing
feel free to edit
>>549326242You calling StS a dead game, faggot? Post hours
>>549326546Only when they will rebalance them to give raw atk
>>549325795No, the devs don’t give a fuck- but for the sake of argument, you have two choices>The buff routeInsanely buff everyone who is underperforming to Tres/Cass/Beryl/etc levels. This unironically means changing almost the entire roster and would blow out power creep on a level rarely seen in gaming.>The nerf routeYou nerf the few over-performing characters to be more in line with everyone else. Will cause every child and man-child to absolutely go ape shit. Content may also need to be looked at if the nerfs drag player power down too much.>tldrThe devs fucked themselves so hard that they will pretend nothing is wrong.
>>549326242>having fun is bad
>>549326678you don't need to nerf characters if you can indirectly nerf them with boss mechanics
>>549325441You're like those retards who thought Hugo was the best on release. Cassius is not the issue, it's clearly the person who can generate dozens of free attacks every turn.
>>549326242LMAOOO. I wanna give you benefit of the doubt that you simply misread what they said.
>>549326612Mei lin is not nerfed. This boss doesnt let her unleash her full power but unless they plan to keep this rule indefinately its not a solution. It also limits ideas they can use for new units that arent broken but share similar mechanics. She needs a nerfbat
>>549326480He's right, but he forgot to properly explain it. Let people have fun, for a price. Allow epiphany and copy rerolls in exchange for crystals, make the dedicated 4 piece sets stronger for the characters they're exclusive to, make 5* dupes more significant, let the 3* partners remain as they are, but significantly buff the 5* and BP options.
>>549326809>the person who can generate dozens of free attacks every turn.that's also cassius
>>549326781Thats retarded and I don’t have faith you have the facilities to comprehend just how retarded that is. Tldr learn to see the bigger picture and the problems that’ll come from treating an major issue with a limp dick.
>>549326949Cassius can't do shit by himself. He's broken because Tressa is broken. If you nerf Tressa, he wouldn't even be on the leaderboard.
>>549326873>misread what they said
>>549326920>>>"Let people have fun">That's how you kill the game, chuddie.>Uhm, ackshually, let people have fun, but monetize every aspect of their fun, that's how you make a game in 2025.We are truly in the darkest timeline.
>>549326949his attacks (triple 0) needs a lot of attacks used for them to do damage, which circles back to the person generating free cards anyway. you cannot do the same shit with yuki + cassius for example.
>>549326678It's the not the children or man-children you need to worry about when nerfing. It's the whales. There is no compensation good enough for them. You start nerfing characters and their trust in you is gone. They won't spend money on things that might be changed later. They see nerfs and they will chargeback their accounts and move to a different game. And that will kill the game. That's the core problem with gacha games. They are beholden to a group of people with too much money and not enough sense.
>>549327243>monetize every aspect of their funThat's how every gacha game works.
>>549326678>Will cause every child and man-child to absolutely go ape shit ill never understand why some dudes cannot fucking comprehend why one-two nerfs is easier and cleaner than 50 buffs to an entire roster Less steps = less chance to fuck something up. Grow up and cope, you’re not fucking 6 years old.
>>549327360My gacha game works differently.
>>549327243if the game becomes unbearable I'll drop it dead the second StS2 drops. It's that shrimple.
>make eps and dupes piss easy to get>make characters powercreep each otherYes retards thats how you kill the game long term gameplay wise unless you're fine being a mihoyo slurper
>>549326639my opinions are not quite a bingo
I'm ngl bros I would roll Sereniel's ugly ass if she unbricks my magna for the turtle game mode.
>>549327405may I see it?
>>549326781No half-measures, WalterDo it right or dont do it at all
>>549325795Imo roguelikes have a built in safety mechanism against overpowered combos, which is that they lead to the same maximum outcome as underpowered combos: winning the run. They just do it faster, but once you've won, that's it, you don't get to somehow win extra, or win past that run. It doesn't matter that your build does infinity billion damage after you kill the boss if you can also kill the exact same boss with a thousand damage. In CZN you can accomplish the same thing by just putting a low enough performance cap on save data content that you can get the exact same rewards with a variety of builds. It doesn't have to be every build, but it has to be more than like, three. Basin was good. First half rift is okay. Second half is where they dropped the ball.
>>549327360False.
>>549327483But she's the prettiest of the three seasonals
>>549326809but he's male? big titty females should never be nerfedput the faggot 6ft under
>>549327524Sure
>>549327524
>>549323357Our last hope.
>>549327590i agree. leaderboards are just a bad fit for this game, the same way score modes never suited roguelikes.
So we all agree the game is unfixable?
>the story sucks because the cool original concept was scrapped and now we just have a shitty harem pretending to be all edgy and dark that goes fucking nowhere and makes no sense>the Roguelike aspect sucks because sometimes you don't even get enough epiphanies to properly engage with it>making deck sucks because you are at the mercy of RNG and certain epiphanies are flat out better than others>It takes forever to max out a character >Character are useless without memory fragment so you basically can't play the game until you roll a few times with element damage/crit rate>Do 36 runs of the same chaos every 2 month>every new character released is a dud because they can't balance for shitIt's over
I never played Slay the Spire because the name and presentation made it look like shovelware.
>>549327827Leaderboards are just there to trick the monkeys who fall for a simple sticker.
>>549327936The game is absolutely fixable. They're just not gonna do it. If anything, they're going to make it worse. CZN is the Destiny of gacha.
>>549327953its cool for the first couple runs but becomes boring as fuck very fast, it may have even less variety than CZN
>>549327827Leaderboards are amazing for this game.
>>549327953it's an amazing game (if you like gameplay) with an insanely high skill ceiling
>>549327953You should try Chrono Ark at least bro. It's good too and not ugly as fuck like StS.
is this true?https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137313694
>>549327936It can be fixed, but gacha devs don’t fix games, they just slap on shit masking old problems and creating new ones.
>>549325795Remove the leaderboard, cap the boss at 500k, make hard content revolve around completing Chaos runs consistently instead of save data.There, no nerfs or buffs necessary.
I have enough for the selector tomorrow, only missing Hugo and Mei Lin. Which one should I go with?
>>549328145People say shit like this then the "high skill ceiling" is just pulling an infinite with shrug it off and pommel strike
Is it left or middle?
>>549328240Nah it's not like that.
>>549328239Take the knot sissy
>>549328239Mei Lin for sure.
>>549328167Oh shit it's cheap too, thanks for the rec I'll give it a try.
>>549325795Hire people that know how to make deckbuilding roguelites balanced, varied and fun.
>>549327948>>the story sucks because the cool original concept was scrapped and now we just have a shitty harem pretending to be all edgy and dark that goes fucking nowhere and makes no senseNo. We don't have "a shitty harem", we have homoverse garbage tier nothing is happening story, and because there was a ton of backlash about the Owen situation, the devs have started making the new girls for (You), but they are only for (You) in the way that they might be for (You) in a homoverse game. This is not harem material.
>>549328203Now THIS is how you kill a game.
>>549328240the high skill ceiling is winrate, the game is well designed so there is a small % of runs that are totally free because that's fun.
>>549328375>No argumentI accept your concession.
>>549328275I'm a big fan of right.
>>549328275It's right for me
>how do you save the game?
blud said high skill LMAOOOO play a real game unc
My chizuru can kill 9/9 family head in 4 turns now. Is the thr best people can do or can I optimize more?
Rei's ugly panties
>>549328502>>549328529
>>549328203>make hard content revolve around completing Chaos runs consistently instead of save data.ThisAs long as winning a Chaos run isn't the endgoal but a grind to get a good deck the game won't be as fun as other deckbuildersBecause you'll never feel the thrill of winning a hard run with a shitty deck. Chaos isn't hard enough for that, and you're looking for strong deck to beat the endgame anyway
>>549328203Yea except 80% of the cast is still fucking shit in a game where character variety is the main selling point
>go back in time before release>put cap on ML's kick to 7 hits>make Tressa's heal dagger upgrade unique Is the balance fixed, anon?
>>549328203You'd probably still need nerfs or buffs for characters who suck ass at Chaos, like Yuki. I don't know who would be on the overpowered end of this, maybe Khalipe? And Mika obviously.
>>549328203retard
How impactful is the shielding part of the score?I don't have any shielding gear in my save data currently...
>>549328881>Chaos isn't hard enough for thatHigh level chaos is actually, a high level planet with tyrant and plague is incredibly tricky to play, it's just that there is no reward for it.
just wait till they release 10 more combatants or something you clowns
>>549328892You mean there are a variety of difficulty levels between characters. You have easy mode characters like Veronica and hard mode characters like Yuki. What's the problem?
>>549328892Gachachuds unironically have hard coped with the idea that some characters are intended to be shit. Like that part of their soul that knew fun had died long ago and they can no longer comprehend why someone gives a fuck about balance.
>>549328991For 500k? Not at all.For the red sticker, essential.
Rei's beautiful no pan
>>549328962Yuki should be good on green and yellow Chaos. She's on perceived as bad cause she's not designed for Lab 0 enemies.
>>549329245My mouth goes in there
>>549325795ignore roguelike trannies and make a babbys first roguelike for the incel gacha gamers because they're the only ones that spend the tourists going >just play the chaos for fun bro>ignore meta browill never pay money to max out a character, at best they'll buy a monthly, you know since they don't chase meta they're never going to buy more rolls to make their character bettermake getting optimal save data significantly easierit's a win/win since the tourists can simply choose not to make it easier on themselves since they don't care about meta after allmake characters good and relevant instead of bricks, and again the tourists won't care because they play for fun and not meta, win/win
>>549329187>hard mode>yuki
>>549324186
>>549329354Well she makes me hard...
Haru stop being sexy
I still don't understand the difficulty/tier relationship. Is there an optimal difficulty/tier/nightmare on/off combination?
>>549329679Most people do Lab 0, difficulty 8, aim for tier 12 or 13 with easy modifiers. Then toggle on deep trauma mode for +1 tier higher. Difficulty 9 and up are harder, and people grinding for decks don't like a challenge. They do like bitching about the game being a boring slog though.
I am at 80/80 faint memory, what actions do I take that'll cause me to go above 80? I know if I remove a card I'll gain points, do I gain if I dupe a card?
>>549329679Difficulty is how strong the enemies are in general. Tier represents how hard the modifiers are. Optimal is difficulty 8 lab 0 because it can roll high save data tiers and difficulty 9+ are much harder. For zero system, difficulty 10 is equal to event difficulty 8 except you typically get lower save data tiers. Always do deep trauma if you're farming for decks.
>>549330069first dupe is freeif you dupe a combatant card with no epiphanies or a regualr epiphany it's free still
>>549330069First dupe is free (unless it's a neutral/forbidden)
>>549330235Thank you very much.
>>549330069First dupe is free, beyond that they'll cost a lotNeutral cards cost too, any kindDiv epiphanies cost too, any kindIf you didn't copy any card so far, you can copy one. Do not do anything else, like get a divine epiphany or buy neutral cards. If you have a neutral card without an epiphany, pray to god you don't trigger an epiphany on it.
>>549329982If higher difficulty gave additional benefits I’d be all for it, but if I have 95% of my deck completed I don’t want to risk another 20 runs by running into a level 120 rainbow dog fucker
>>549328203Agreed. I’d take it a step further and create a Hard mode Chaos where memory fragments and character dupes are disabled. You start with full decks and get to delete two cards for free, per character, or can redeem deletions from other characters at a rate of 2:1 to be able to trim 4 from one deck to start with. You also get to copy one card and get to choose two epiphanies. Bosses are randomized but you’re guaranteed to encounter an enhanced dog fucker.
>>549329342That's the thing about the "ignore save data content" side of the argument, is even if they're right, at best it's all irrelevant to them. No one has an actual argument against fixing the leaderboard meta, it's unanimously either bad or irrelevant, not a single person thinks it's actively a good thing.
If I do a chaos run where I do not use any epiphanies for a combatant whatsoever, will I finish with just the 4 basic cards? And if I remove 3 of them, will I finish with just the one?
>>549330069Anything you do while make you go over.
Best team for this fight? I actually just lost to him at level 6
Any one of these things would increase my enjoyment of the game:>make the mandatory weekly Chaos quicker somehow>change the amount of weekly mandatory runs to only one (1) to get the 8k points>give better RNG control and proc rate for epiphanies>remove garbage generic epiphanies from the epiphany pool so that it's actually a 3/5 chance to get the good shit>increase epiphany and/or copy event appearance rates>go through and manually prune all of the literally useless divine epiphany combinations, like having +1ap on [Finale] cards>remove the artifact system from the game or provide more materials to craft them with>allow us to combine artifacts to allow the transfer and cultivation of desired substats>generously add items to the game which allow players to reroll individual substat lines>add sweep function to daily stamina grind levels>increase leveling materials given per stamina or reduce leveling materials required to level (like how required credits were reduced); if this is an artifactslop game, just let me farm my artifact slop, stop making me spent weeks farming character shit>alternatively, remove the "Simulation" tab altogether and put the focus on Chaos rather than Save Data>integrate future seasons natively into the existing Zero system, where you can choose to run any planet, including the seasonal planet>balance new characters "in a vacuum" the same way that the launch characters were, don't balance them around seasonal buffs, cards, or equipment>revert the story to the true original concept, but that ship has long since sailed so who cares really
>>549330596You do need whale bait somehow though, otherwise this is like those pie in the sky policies where people think they can solve world hunger by just making all the food free.
>>549330797retain extra attack beryl with wanderer on one of your supports.
100+ refreshes to get this bad boy
>>549325795>Fire most of the dev team>Hire devs that have a background in card games and roguelikes>Stop wasting time on shitty story rewrites only retards that don't even play the game want>Re-launch the game when season 2 comes out>Remove ALL perma scaling from the game and compensate characters with better epiphanies on average>Remember you got a disgusting amount of money in 1 month and use said money to pay a portion of your dev team to exclusively work on making divine epiphanies unique for each character card>Tune the fuck down on the draw and AP generation on all sources>Buff basic cards to the point they don't feel worthless for most characters>Properly design the chaos runs to be much faster, less off-element enemies, nerf rare species or remove the concept for something else entirely, always give 3 copy choices, reduce the remove options and give a lot more epiphany procs in the interior>Revamp everything related to progression outside of chaos and refund people like you did for unitsNone of the above will ever happen because the game has a mongoloid CEO that is only in it for the money.
>Hop on CZN excited and giddy to farm for a decent Renoa deck>3 hours inI just want exhaust or discard 3, holy moly. Am I asking for too much? How are some people genuinely defending this shit, oh right I forgot, "muh RNG". Fuck that noise.
>>549330639>If I do a chaos run where I do not use any epiphanies for a combatant whatsoever, will I finish with just the 4 basic cards?You'll be forced to take any queued up epiphanies after each battle. If you can make it to the first checkpoint, you can leave at any point after that with your current deck. >And if I remove 3 of them, will I finish with just the one?If you can get enough removal events and are lucky enough to avoid any epiphanies by the time you get to the checkpoint, yes. After that you can escape the chaos if you notice a spark on any of that combatant's cards before triggering it or ending the battle. This is easier said than done.
>>549330401Sounds like you are treating the game as a job rather than entertainment. You are doing a cost-benefit analysis instead of just having fun with it.
>>549328203This.This whole meme drama started because of leaderboards, which caused autists to grind for the sake of perfect decks and nothing else.
>>549330865That run is gonna be cancer.
>>549330957Some people have fun doing cost-benefit analysis.
>>549330927BUT ANON YOU JUST WANT THE GOD DECK WITHOUT ANY EFFORT ECKS DEE
>>549331112Those aren't people.
>>549330802>>change the amount of weekly mandatory runs to only one (1) to get the 8k pointsI hate this one because I'm barely doing Lab0 anymore, so it always feel like a waste of time to me.Zero is so more consistent in getting good decks because of tons of remove events + near guaranteed copy event, so I just spend more time there (it's more fun too because of variety) but for some reason I have to do 4 Lab0 for absolutely no reason but event currency.
>>549331105I'm not finishing it, its just a tool to get 0-card decksbasically you remove 2 cards at the fate encounter, then 2 more at the shop and / or NPC, and leave at checkpoint. Also pray you don't get epiphaniesThe good thing is that its not on difficulty 8 (its on 10) so I can just leave that T14 there forever
>>549330937How do you leave at a waypoint? Obviously you can pause your progress, but how do you leave permanently with your current progress?
>>549330957redditroonbro...
>>549330927go grind some more retard
>>549331187wtf anon
>>549312264This anon has elite ball knowledge
Any one of these things would increase my enjoyment of the game:>Balance your fucking game
>>549330797Haru smash.
>>549331250Go to the menu (chaos, zero system, or event chaos) and choose to escape instead of continuing. You don't have to leave specifically at a waypoint though, you can leave any time after the first waypoint.
>>549331427When I escape, my save data isn't saved. I've tried this during battles before.
>>549331489It won't save if you leave before hitting a waypoint.
Tressa seems too weak in chaos for single dps source. Do you guys run her with Veronica or what.
>>549331395what do you even do in this gamedo you just coom or what
>>549330881>Buff basic cards to the point they don't feel worthless for most charactersI think they're kind of doing this one actually. Yuki and Chizuru basics are better than average, and I bet Sereniel's won't be shit either.
>>549330927You would burn out faster if you simply got what you wanted. It's a roguelike, you're supposed to deal with what got handed to you.
>>549331685Hugo is your tressa/cassius chaos babysiter
>>5493257951. Make the leaderboard more varied. Instead of a single one that counts both damage, heal and shields, split them into separate ones.2. Make more creative leaderboards. For example, add content similar to basin stage 10 difficulty with the following leaderboards: clears with least amount of cards played, clears with the lowest possible tb value, clears with the least amount of damage taken, least amount of AP used etc
>>549331395>Snow RabbitHeh.
Rin’s basic attacks are strong.
>>549331395Why is the arm black?
>the game will be better with better leaderboards
>>549331841just like chizuru and her spadeskorean devs are so based
one easy way to fix the epiphany situation without having to manually and individually rebalance every epiphany is to just take the opposite roadcheck those garbage tier epiphanies that nobody picks, and remove themremove them allevery card now has 4 epiphanies instead of 5, your chances per run now is 3/4 instead of 3/5 and nobody will miss the shit epiphanies removedthis even reduces work for the devs in the future, since now they only need to make 4 epiphanies instead of 5
>>549332090No, keep the 5 epiphanies but remove the trash generic ones like 1 fortitude or 1 morale for 1 turn shitting up the pool.
>couple months in and we're already talking about how they can save the game from eos
>Pass on this epiphany option>Can try again on next epiphany roll
>>549331395Give me the webm of this brown girl please.
Will the leaderboard Phase 2 boss break Cassius/Tressa, or do you think the devs will just ignore it?
>>549332279no you see you're supposed to waste your time and that's good
>got 100k on hell>lowered to hard>got 50kNah this esportfaggotry can suck my stinky dick. Never gonna touch it again
>>549324471I really really hate cards that nerf damage. Can i do the top one. With the 3 hit oni and with tsukoyomi of the one hit ko. For sets using new void set?
>>549332380it's part of the game retard. you simply don't like roguelikes.
>>549332416holy shitter
>>549332090>every card now has 4 epiphanies instead of 5, your chances per run now is 3/4 instead of 3/5Man you don't even know how epiphanies work.
>>549332416happy bunny
>>549332416#1 selena fan hereShe sucks. I’m sorry anon you need to bench her.
>>549330927GET USED TO IT FAGGOT LMAOO
>>549332453That oni is better since it gives damage to her strong card
>>549332601?
>>549330927>only 3 hoursgrind for another 20 hours and you MIGHT get one(1) decent deck, read: not good
The devs aren't stupid they are doing what they do so the game is scummier that it is, they made the 3 rate ups shit because they will be added to the pool and make people feel like shit when getting them in the future, i would be my ass virginity we will see many more of these underwhelming kits going forward this is the price you pay for not having limited banners. And the new worthless event that replaces the copy event is also done on purpose to fuck lab0 even more because people are abusing shit like picrel to get broken decks at a much easier pace than the devs wanted. You people have to remember that this game doesn't have consistent events like most gachas, it's a single season with a single chaos for months on end with some tiny side content you can do in seconds comparatively.I'm also of the idea the whole "we are only going to have collabs for limiteds" is utter bs. For example there's no way that Luche isn't a limited character, same for Tenebria, etc.
>>549332683>#1 selena fan hereShow your Selena
>>549332461You're so retarded it hurtsNot my first file btw
If they want us to grind endlessly for good decks they should make every characters fucking hot and remove male.Give us real reason why we must try hard in this game, give us fanservice at the same level as GF2/SB/BD2.
>>549332565Give everyone a fair starting deck then we will talk. You think i have niche chars ready for this ass event like cassi or just unobtainable ones like vero etc?
>>549332775>The devs aren't stupidThey are absolutely fucking retarded and they definitely do not play this game. >they are doing what they do so the game is scummier that it isAlso true, but it just because they're being purposely scummy doesn't mean they aren't also retarded.
>>549332775Forgot picrel.
>>549332779She sucks. I benched her.(Is it possible to make a good selena but it would take nearly a perfect run)
>>549332683Nigga>>549332970
>>549332762Cards don't have 5 epiphanies, they have way more, that's why this mess exists in the first place. The odds are never 3/5.
>>549332461there's not a single rougelike out there with the equivalence of a wrong epiphany completely bricking your run making it a complete waste of time
>>549332996Don't look at her deck.
>>549332912I want picrel but with yuki
>so much chaos created by the mere addition of Leaderboardsimagine when they implement pvp
>>549332762Generic "+3 resolve for 1 turn" shit the pool of epiphanies
>>549333086I know that's the joke
>>549332996>he doesn't know>or... he does know
>>549332970Just show her anyway
>>54933276420 hours is insane bro.. respect and condolences
>>549332775>The devs aren't stupid
>>549332996Fyi her scope upgrade only works on her own attacks
>>549331685yeah veronica is fine with her
>>549330927how did you manage to not get shitty generic eps? insane luck
>>549333081I don't think you can expect someone who gave that """argument""" to even understand the implications of what you typed.
>>549333275It's fascinating how gooks only care about worthless shit no one should care about meanwhile everything related to gameplay is completely fucked.They behave like females really, no wonder their women make fun of them.
>>549333210You are very confusing but here you go
>the first gacha game I ever played is still by far the best one I've ever played>thought CZN stood a chance of dethroning it, but I see now that was never actually in the cards (heh)Grim.
Is this a healthy meta?
>>549294763>>549295456why not both? he still good with any DPS and you need 2 teams in this game
>>549333081it doesn't brick your 'run', it bricks your save data.all the epiphanies are good enough to finish a chaos, but yall aren't ready for that conversation.
>>549333639Soccer Spirits bro...
>>549333721Those are healthy tits at least I tell you what.
>>549333721>pie charts for CZNholy fuck do we have actual yugiboomersit kinda makes sense considering both their tournaments and our ladder earn you exactly 0 rewards
The 1% shit is extremely unhealthy for this game and its players. It should be 10%
>>549333742Completely ignoring that at a certain point the goal of the run is to get good savedata, so yes it does brick the run
can't believe there's still some faggot absolutely seething about having to play the game even after a whole dayguess i'll come back next month or something after they uninstall and move on
>>549333742>it bricks your save data.that was the implication, bricked run = bricked deck
>>549333721damn I understand you're tired about being queued into tressa decksyou fucking FAGGOTWHO CARES
>>549333721Left side doesn't even matter btw, that's the grimmest part.
>>549333639For me it's rage Rage of Bahamut
This is the only Tressaless team in top 100. Say something nice about it.
>>549334000
>>549334074TRUETRUE!!!NERF TRESSA MEI LIN IS FINE
>>549333881>>549333927you all just want spoonfed meta decks with no effort. i bet you would hard advocate for reroll epis too.
>>549334182Not so fast.>>549334138
>>549333721First off, that's basically how meta goes. Second, literally only Tressa Cassius Mika matters. Mei Lin, Yuki, Chizuru, Rin, whoever else, does not matter at all.
>>549334138I've figured a MeiLin team could do well on right side, I think it just needs to be tuned more towards 7/8 hits so you want to copy 1cost kicks rather than unity. Surprised they did Mika/Cass though I still feel like getting 7 kicks is going to be harder without Vero.
I just unlocked the boss.If I lose with the 2nd team do I need to redo the entire fight or do I start from halfway?Can I savescum by reseting for a good starting hand?
>>549334204>say one thing>HMMM ACKSHUALLY I BET YOU'RE ASKING FOR <completely different thing>end yourself
>>549334204>i bet you would hard advocate for reroll epis too.All they have to do is make epiphany rerolls cost 5 hourglasses or something. I don't want to do 50+ runs for the chance of a good deck.
>>549332453New void set is ass on her. Using 2 out of 3 Ap for basically morale stack, better to run a 2/2/2
>>549330881You key...
>>549334204I'd rather the RNG be tied to bonuses (divines, neutrals, monster cards, equipment, 4 copies) and not getting the right base epiphanies.You say "effort" like it's some accomplishment when it's really just spam rerunning until you get the good rng, the actual chaos itself has no difficulty or thought required it's just a timesink.
bruh chizuru's bound at dusk is fucking dogshit wtf is this card
>>549334182Mei Lin isn't fine but her being on left side is irrelevant.
How exactly does amorphous cube work? Is it just perma 25% dmg?
>>549334869Yes it's +25% which is a mod category added on to the % after increased mods.
>>549333638>level 50You don't love her.
>>549334916>Item description that just straight up lies to you
>>549334204>>549334467Reminder that reroll epiphanies will cost 5 hourglasses, and it will not solve any problems. It will only make everyone hyper aware of just how many garbage generic epiphanies there are clogging up the epiphany pool.
WHERE ARE THE STANDARD PULLS?!?!?!?!?!!? I NEED VERONICA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>bro my decks are perfect. why is my score not that good?>cassius with def and HP memory frags
>>549335414>It will only make everyone hyper aware of just how many garbage generic epiphanies there areWe already know this.
>>549335478Don't we get 10 tomorrow? Also upgrade your roster to 40 for 2 rolls per character if you haven't yet.
>>549334305broskis?
>>549335478I got to 300 today and can't decide between Rin, Renoa and Luke. I have everyone else.
>Combat information has been disruptedwhat IS THIS
>tressa deck with triple drawn daggers (create 4) + the weapon that gives 40% dmg to 0 costthis dog game finally gave me something
>>549335628Rift? If yes, then you always come back to the first phase if you restart or die.
>>549335628If you mean the leaderboard fight, restarting will restart the whole fight from side 1. There is no way to redo only side 2.
if max promoting cardman and getting his last potential are what it takes to compete then let me die in the trenches
>>549335769smorr indie company29 mirrion not enough
What's the planet to farm for chains of obsession? Is it just rng in boss drop?
>>549335870Anon i cannot do shit, I play a card and hte game shits itself. I WAS DOING THE WEEKLY BOSS.What do I do.
>>549335570>We already know this.You already "know" this, but you do not realize this. Only after spending all of your day's hourglasses on your first Chaos run, rerolling Unity or Shadow Reload or whatever, blowing all of your hourglasses only to still not see the "Move" or "Heal" cards, only then will people truly realize just how bad things actually are. Reroll epiphanies will cause more outrage. Which would be a good thing, because it might eventually result in generic epiphanies being removed from the pool. But it would still cause more outrage than it would fix the RNG.
>>549335969They could just make all 5 epiphanies viable, but that will never happen.
Nice game chaos babs.
>>549336143>They could just make all 5 epiphanies viable, but that will never happen.Even if they made all 5 epiphanies viable, you'd still get like 2/3 generic epiphanies. Not really a choice.
>>549336148chaos zero gameplay
>>549335952Do something else until the servers stop shitting themselves
>>549335803>>549335819Well shit my Cassius needs a new deck now then. Cause it's the one the quest has Breakout of War but is random.
>>549336281so it's a sever-side issue? welp
>>549336143Wouldn't matter if they did. There will always be one that is better than the rest. Perfect balance is impossible. People will just raise their standards and force suffering on themselves instead of accept "mediocre" decks.
>>549335908Chaos order elites and chaos order event drops. Blue pot is probably best
>>549335769This has literally never happened to me, but the Stove launcher tells me it can't connect all the time, even though the game is working perfectly.
what the hell is the shit on the right?
>>549335952If you close the game or use the hourglass to undo an action, turn, or reroll EP, the game will shit itself on the Rift boss and there’s nothing you can do about it for now.
>>549336523ah so that's what happened, i rolled my turn back and now my game is fucked
>>549336502You can click on items to read a description.
>>549336502looks gift shit
>>549336612>>549336642Oyeah it's garbageinto the trash it goes
Canon wife
is olwen (forma de shota)
>hijacks your event>challenges you to a rigged game of dice and lets you cheat>gives you a map to Kaguya Pharmaceutics and two cards>doesn't do anything else>both cards do absolutely nothing and get sliced off
>>549337398Genuinely one of the few interesting moment in the game.
>>549337398>gives you one card>gets rekt and does nothing>actually he gave you two cards>"you're supposed to cheat bozo">gets rekt and does nothing again>refuses to elaborate>leavesi love this man
Absolute gigachad
>>549337398>two cardsI'm expecting a third.
>>549337398>>549337535it would suck if this is his only appearancehopefully he shows up in part 3
Anybody else recently having constant networking issues with this garbage game?
>>549338375rift? used hourglass?
is Rin on everybody’s battle mission menu or is that just because she’s my wife
In light of the recent announcement on cracking down on cheating, the error that pops up when rolling back your turn is probably some form of anti-hacking gone wrong.
Finally got a decent score in the event. Didn't break into the top 1%, but diamond is fine with me, I don't really want to turbo sperg out over it. I can't believe we still have over a month of season 1 left though. These seasons are way too fucking long for how little they change over time.
>>549337398KKKIIIIIIINNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov_ioTMb2WUWhy didn't they make a formal EN announcement? Hopebros need more fuel...
>>549338375It's the anti cheat, CN found the exploit for chaos that's why the anti cheat working overtime right now.
>woke up>0/8000>close game
Oh man Luke is way better at this shit than I thought. I cleared phase 1 in 4 turns and then cockslapped phase 2.I forgot to equip my memory fragments on tressa but I didn't feel like retrying
>>549339248anon we knew this already
I swapped a card to a mutagen sample and didn't gain any faint memory. Is this some sort of deck farming strat? Because I don't know what to do next
>>549339248>blunders around for 30 seconds to say there will be a roadmap soonI'm not going to listen to some long winded autist. Give me the bullet points.
>>549339805anon we knew this already
>>549339902Sorry I am not sure what I should be doing now with this but ill try looking into it
>>549339259anon we knew this already
>>549339805You leave the card alone and it'll remove itself for free when you leave chaos. That's it. Note that it may show up in copy events.
>>549340078Thanks!
Does this work for his quest cards too?
>>549339248tl;dr>new roadmap coming out mid december>new mode that will be better for slow characters that just focuses on clearing, no turn limits, Jan 14th>Orlea buffs (maybe others)>No plans to nerf>5* partner buffs in season 2>more unigram content>temp upgrades for characters so you can try them at high investment without committing resources>season 2 better integration between season chaos and zero system (particularly around zero system codex costs)>chaos event text skips>story skip >no simulation sweep, but 60 energy simulation will now be 1 fight with 3x rewards instead of 3 fights so you just need an AOE burst turn 1
Players:>The game is slow plz make it faster?Devs:>Got you bro!>Create a pointless animation when you use a mindbreak card, wasting your time for even longerPlayers:>Unlike the other chaos, lab0 copy event is almost impossible to get and is divided in 2, can you fix that?Devs:>Got you bro!>Creates a pointless new event that gives absolutely nothing and supersedes the copy eventIt's like they are paid to kill the game.
>>549340194Triple 0 is fixed damage but it should work for Triple 1.
>>549340517>Create a pointless animation when you use a mindbreak card, wasting your time for even longerI really don't know why they added that piece of shit, it was a lot more satisfying to spam all of them at once We need a rollback on that garbage
>>549340487>new mode that will be better for slow characters that just focuses on clearing, no turn limits, Jan 14thJust remove turn limits for basin>orlea buffWhy when brick like Amir exist? >no sweepThis dev never tried playing again D10 Judas
>>549339259? Should be trivial for Smilegate to run a search for high-point saves and ban everyone who has like 2 of them.
>>549340975>This dev never tried playing again D10 Judasit's 3 times a week and takes like 5 minutes lol
>>549340975>This dev never tried playing again D10 JudasRetard.
Tressa would be a massive problem for the integrity of the game if she were male. But she’s hot as fuck so who cares.
>>549340980They did nothing to the people who abuse D5 chaos bugHere is the hint people who abuse the new bug are whale, they don't want to offend their piggy bank.
>>549341340This
>>549339404Based.
I also sometimes reply to myself
>>549340892Hmmmmmmmmmmm nyo, the nightmare is ongoing.
>>549341340kill yourself. i can distance game issues from characters. fuck off
>>549341340>But she’s hot as fuckSince when? Was there an update in the last 5 seconds that changed her model?
>tldr i'm a hypocriteyou have a brain worm
Kazena (2025): Feminist Masterpiece
>>549341743E6 LukeKayronLORD...
the new void set is chiziru bis? should be right
I mean sure she’s no Rin but let’s be honest that’s a very high bar for any Void girl to reach.
>>549341340She's also the best design, can't believe i can finally play a game where the character i like is broken. FINALLY.
Tressa dresses like an exhibitionist slut. Is that really good design?
It’s peak design.Yuki, on the other hand……..
>Tressa is hot, so it’s fine if she’s OPOkay faggot, what about all the girls who are even hotter who suck?
>>549342504So like half the cast?
Can curse shackles stack?
>>549342652>pic unrelated
How did the Korean did it bros they keep making hot slut
>>549331685just get good gear and the 3 star partner, should hit at least 90 damage per dot stack in chaos
>>549342652Yes, and unironically.
>>549342652>ranger>suckliterally just make a deck with 3-4 precision aim and FEH and she's better than most things.
>>549342652this
>>549342716Haru only shows tummy. Tummy isn't lewd.
>literally no one is wanking over tressa until it’s suddenly relevant for this shitpost
tasteful exposure =/= literal whore uniform
>>549342652Apologize wrong image
>>549332816absolutely btfo of that guy
>>549340487>5* partner buffsso the majority are still gonna be using 3* partners, which i don't mind but it's hilarious how dogshit most of the 4* partners are.
tressa seems like rapebait material
>>549343289They are all rapebait
>>549343226>so the majority are still gonna be using 3* partnersAnon you miss the point, they buffing 5* partner to make it must have aka locking character full kits behind partner.
>>549343289And that's a good thing
>even Yuki is seeing use in the top 3 with the Morale build>meanwhile Chizuru is completely absent How the fuck can they buff her? Her gimmick about not restoring AP just makes her unsalvageable.
>>549334204Holy Mother of strawman, probably wraps around to be strawwoman at this point
Zero card cow is a go
>>549343094>Goes to school with a uniform 2 sizes below what she would be wearingShe's a complete lewd slut.
>random yuki spook from standard
>>549343289https://files.catbox.moe/226oex.pngAnd that's a good thing.
>>549343405how many times will people have to tell you vanguard literally doesn't matter? you can have any brick therethe points come from Rearguard, and Chizuru is much better than Yuki for actual single target damageAlso, your shit is wrong
>>549338501yeah, just restarted the rift
>>549343370could be just higher damage numbers than what they are now. you are assuming shit they didn't say
>>549343370How do you know that? Are you one of the devs?
>>549343675Not only censored but
>>549343541Fucking grats bro
>>549343678>picdost senor know
>>549343501but why
>>549343903I told her that pubes are bad luck.
>>549343501this is fucking hilarious
>>549343984I know retard, the point is you can have ANY clown shit you want on vanguard as long as you can kill in 5 turnstheres teams with Selena and Maribell
We are all top 100% here
>>549343802>>549343894>two shills defending at the same timeI'm noticing
>>549344093
>>549344118Defending what? Not only are you braindead, you are also an ESL. I'm not defending the locking behind full kits behind partners. I'm telling you that wasn't what was said. You saying it doesn't make it true.
>>549343405>>549343678Both of you are so fucking stupidThey didn't put her in for no fucking reasonThe fact that you don't' get why this guy is using her instead of lol it doesnt matter proved you are too low IQ to play this game
>>549342418Tressa wouldn't do this
>>549344289I know she's there as a battery, how fucking dumb are you?The point is Chizuru performs much better than Yuki in the rearguard, the team that matters
Damn
You have two options:>delete every male from the gameOr>genderbend every male from the game and live with knowing they used to have a penis and possibly still have a man’s mind
>>549344118Do you even know what a shill is? I was genuinely asking since you're so confident that the devs would buff 5* partners to the point where it's vital to the character. That is bad design.
>>549344523you are fucking retarded holy shit. the team on the left doesn't matter for top 100. at all. the points are made by the team on the right
real shill hours
>>549344665thats what I'm saying, chimprearguard = team 2 = right teamholy fuck are you an actual monkey?
I crafted a set of orb of inhibition and turns out it's dogshit? Who the fuck design the game like this.
>>549344725Next thread will be worse.
>>549344745i don't see any teams of either on the rearguard. what moron came up with this shit term, you? fuck off. either way, the rear team is all tressa cassius. and its a void single target shill and chiziru is trounced by a 4 star in her own specialty. that image you put has chizuru on the left.
>>549344637Fuck off you giga nigger chudcel.(You) will quit anyway in a month and go move on to destroy another game. If you want waifu slop, snowbreak exists.The stupid shit you push for is exactly the same as the trannies trying to ruim games with what they want. Your not normal your a faggot
>>549344638your a shill
>>549344950this has been the name for right team in deckbuilders a decade before this game existed, brown boy.Chizuru can get 700K+ on the right team, while yuki can't even get remotely close to that, now next time don't act like you know shit when in fact you're being completely retarded
>>549344950>what moron came up with this shit termnta but you are blind as a bat anon
>>549345045Fun fact we make Wuwa kneel to ML Chad so CZN is small walkYou will get heterosexual pandering and you will be happy.
>>549345220Thata a shit score. I dont even see that score in my region. And likely e6 to boot. You are picking a shit score from a total of 100 and you have to dig where the cutoff of bad tressa players exist. Probably knocked off the ladder by now.
>>549345297>acts proud and happy just like the queers ruining games with deiYeah way to oust yourself as everything wrong with the gaming industry. Your the root cause. And i know your a nigger who goes around saying gaming is dead.
I don't think 800k will be enough for the stickerActually grim
>>549345410its e0 from days ago before people started spamming the heal and shield cardsthe point of the conversation was chizuru vs yuki, you joined the reply thread like a complete chimp not even knowing what rearguard meanscase closed
>>5493454501.1mil minimum
>>549345441Dilate and seethe
Stop samefagging
>>549345450people are straight up cheesing it with equipments and heal cards so you either cheese it too or forget about it
Its a void boss. Likely a whale too when the top score is more than 200k+ more. How pathetic can you be. This is chizurus specialy. Id like to see this if it were reversed and see you make this this argument. With the left side on the right and the right side on the left. And me saying look guys. Yuki is destroying the competition. Chizuru is much worse at the aoe order boss than chizuru. Kill yourself.
>>549345713its order too, cuckin fact it takes extra damage from inspirationYet theres not a single yuki on the right sideyou know what that means
Damn can a nigga get some EPIPHANIES? What the actual shit
>>549345525Stop embarrassing yourself. Chizuru is a single target void dps not an aoe order dps. And shes losing at single target to a 4 star.
>>549345713I wouldn't call a boss that cripples multi-hit damage "Chizuru's specialty". They tried to curb Mei Lin and hit the character that was supposed to be shilled in the crossfire.
1M will gatekeep master last day
>>549345910>>549345910>>549345910
>>549345906Nta every character is losing to tressa, thats not a chizuru-only thingthats not the pointChizuru is performing 3rd overall out of 11 DPS
>>549345871The boss on the right takes extra void damage. And you pointing out order buffs+ that also benefit hugo. Nice one idiot. Chizuru is and hugo are still single target not aoe. You also ignored half the post. That chizuru is getting shit on by a 4 star void dps lmao. And she that would equally suck ass on the left boss too lmao
>>549345973It's even worse than that too, because Chizuru's gimmick is also holding her sword in your hand and buffing it, and the boss force discards your hand every other turn if you are doing the mechanic right.
>>549346138All 5*s DPS are getting "shit on" by tressa since she scales infinitely with cass
>>549346210You dont have unlimited turns to do one damage hit, meaning you want steady damage build. Itdr shes shit at both
>>549346293Honestly people call it a Tressa team but I feel like Cassius is the one doing the bulk of the lifting on that team.
>>549346293>she scales infinitelynot remotely close, she just can generate very large turns but the damage is largely static (with the exception of 1 cass card that isn't a big percentage of your damage)
>>549346293Thats not my problem, its the void shill and chizurus shilled content and tressa wouldnt be good in an aoe scenario anyways. What do single target dps have to look forward to when tressa shits on them
>leaderboard of how much you cheese the systemcool game...
