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The Nightmare is Ongoing... >>549476846


>12/03 (Wed) Update
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11402378

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Current/Upcoming Featured Banner
Chizuru - Psionic - Void | Starting December 3rd

>Current/Upcoming Content/Events
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>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the Second Update:
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>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.
https://rentry.co/cznsavedata
https://czn-calc.vercel.app/
https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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REN-O-UH
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>literally haven't seen a copy event since the new patch
Chaos
Zero
Copy
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Feeling v comfy
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did we lose
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>>549520139
Skill
Issue
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Who do i choose?
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play a better game
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>>549520160
Always
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>>549520147
>diamond
Back to the mines shitter
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>>549520279
the only straight account in /czn/. look how gay the rest of you are.
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>>549520279
Save
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>>549520303
>schizo is a furry
everytime
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>>549520279
Orlea of course.
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>>549520303
I already play that game for the huge asses
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Eh?
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>>549520279
sell me your account please i don't want to have the homos on mine
wish i could burn the homos
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who else here comfy over 500k and no longer care about the boss
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>>549520639
beryl!!
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>>549520784
any sane person
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>Kill boss once
>830k
>Kill boss twice
>+30k
Nah fuck this shit.
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You walk into your room and see this. Your actions?
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>>549520303
Nah, mijewyo betrayed me by putting Kiana on the cuck chair for all eternity
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I love farming swamp, so comfy even at 100+
so many removes, so many converts, so many copies
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>>549520303
I don't want safe horny also chink slop region is boring as fuck
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>>549520889
fondle her belly then make babies
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>>549521009
don't forget all the god epis
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>>549520784
Bold of you to assume I hit 500k. I managed to hit 200k+ and I'm pretty much done with this shit. Don't care about 500k extra sticker or gems
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>>549520303
>ZZZ slurper is still shitting up /czn/
Pulchra is nice (not a furry btw), but ZZZ is trash. The worst parts of this game came from homoshit, why would anyone ever willingly subject themselves to pure unadulterated homoshit?
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>>549520784
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>>549520303
>2025
>Cyberpunk dystopia corporations attempting to end humanity by accelerating into the AI singularity
>Literally all going to end as a "We thought we could control it" sci fi movie cliche
>All computer R&D resources going to said AI, even to the point where a new computer is becoming quickly unaffordable

>Humanity never achieved true 3d real-time collision-fat physics for big asses and titties
>Best we get is some silly jiggle
I hate this clown universe.
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Pr*dwen should rework their tiers into Casual and 1-Turn Infinite Cycling Bullshit because those are the only 2 ways to play
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>>549520889
Let her watch while I breed Yuki and Chizuru
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I forgot how cancerous blue pot is...
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>>549521347
>still no real full-dive VR
This is the Chaos Zero Nightmare timeline.
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>>549521559
I don't know what you're supposed to do at either boss and at this point I'm afraid to ask.
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daily reminder that you only need mediocre decks to clear everything
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>>549520639
They added like 20 new kind of gift and now everyone has a favorite kind of gift that gives you pull currency and additional affinity if you give it to them
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>>549521347
>2025
>So called male loneliness crisis
>Still no advancement in sexbot technology
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>>549522263
define mediocre
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we're getting ai chatbots we can go on dates with in a couple years just look at wwm
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What's the top 1% cutoff?
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After finally getting Kayron, i must say i'm surprised by how fun his damage stacking mechanic is. I can see why tier lists don't place him particularly high since he's very ephiphany reliant and that can suck in chaos, but using him in nodes is just fun.
>>549521187
What a great Haru! So lewd...
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>>549520279
I'd pick a new character over dupes any day of the week. Only after obtaining all of the dorks would I focus on dupes. Luke is deceptively strong with some current and undoubtedly future combo potentials because he uses 0pp cards like Tressa. Hugo's alright, but he needs someone to carry his ass and Veronica is currently just the better sub-dps due to cheap and abundant cycle, unique upgrade cards that cannot be copied, and AoE ballista carnage. I think they mentioned they'd buff Orlea soon? Not sure about that. Kayron's pretty edgy too. If you ask me, wait for potential Orlea buff to see if she's worth it, if not coin flip between emo kid #1 and #2.
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>>549522263
It's true. My mid as fuck Chizuru/ML/Rei decks cleared one side of basin in 6 turns, and my crazy Veronica and Nia carried Yuki in 3 turns on the other
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>>549522263
>grinds the same planet for another 100 hours
haha yea
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Haru stop sending me nudes
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>>549522505
in 2 weeks the cutoff will be double what it is now, with a completely different meta team 2
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>>549522473
Mediocre = very good
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daily reminder that you will not be able to join the guild if you dont have the masters sticker
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>>549522263
>Writes this while having TCM with 2+ shadow reloads

All frauds preaching nonsense
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Wheres the instinct dps at
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>>549523528
Depends. They added Elasticity to cockblock Mei Lin combos, and by doing so even screwed up Chizuru combos. Yet they overlooked Tressa and Cassius combos. So they'll have to address those next. That's fairly easy to do I think. Simply have card cost go up after x cards of same cost played in succession. So you can't just spam 0pp cards.
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>>549524136
She's cultivating her assets.
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>>549523970
that is mediocre thoughbeit. the new wave is three (3) dice trick V kekaroo
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bloody poo sticker my beloved...
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>>549524487
I mean looking at the asian server scores there are going to be hemerobiid deaths
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Why is the autoplay AI so retarded? It has the 3 necessary cards to immediately end the fight, yet uses all of the other useless shit first. Why the fuck? It's like what a CCG player with a winning card would do before using it, first playing everything else just to mock his opponent.
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>rolled chizuru
>Haven't farm her at all because I'm farming TCM saves
I'll just wait before rolling next time...
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>5 void dps
>0 instinct dps
Epic
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Is it actually worth doing the respec thing?
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>>549524679
It has the order of
>upgrades
>0 cost skill cards
>0 cost attack cards
>whatever
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>>549520784
I'm at 480k...
I feel like everything went perfect too, maybe I need to grind more potential mats...
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Bring the avatars back
I'll pick the woman of course
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>>549524834
I assume you mean resetting zero system? If you maxed everything already then yes.
The whole point is to not have rare species enabled, making it so you don't have to clench your ass cheeks each run.
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>>549524834
It refunds all your points so you can just try it yourself.
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>>549525114
Kys tranny
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>>549524991
1st part is irrelevant as long as you do it within 5 turns. 2nd part you need a decent mika, tressa, and cassius team if you want a high score. without tressa's self harm armor that you get in the zero system, you can expect a score of between 800k-900k, probably not over 1m. there's still plenty of time to grind for it.
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>>549525114
These look exceptionally ugly. It's a good thing they ditched them.
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>>549525281
Is the self harm armor an event only equip?
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>>549525114
>nipple points
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>>549525114
the deleted art and story are so much better for fanart and fanfiction than what we have
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I need to pronebone Orlea
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>>549525810
>Here's your weekly update whiteman
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>reward for increasing your affinity with Rei is you get to have a child truma dump on you about how she got raped by space pirates
Who is this meant to appeal to?
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>>549521931
The first boss is easy you just kill the bubbles to reduce his moral stacks. 2nd boss is cancer. Basically if you play any card that causing his action points to run out he gets another turn with a strong action. The adds he spawns decrease his total action count per time they act and they act twice per turn. You need to kill the adds as fast as possible. Wanderer of the Void counters him basically as well as Rally being great if you pull it early.
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I want to be able to pay $50 to edit and choose cards to my liking. Why hasn't Smilegate implement this yet? I should be hired in the marketing department.
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oh yeah, if you proc your Ballista through Kowalski it triggers Passion Weakness, makes sense
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Why does everyone on the top of the leaderboards have like 4 copies of this? Do the extra cards from this proc the morale from his last potential?
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>>549525536
i think it's just rng from bosses and maybe the events where you pick rare-lego? i'm too lazy to farm it myself. checked to see which maps drop it and saw that i did obtain it before in blue pot but i don't remember where or how. it was probably a missing item i picked to level up the map
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>>549526547
Koreans
They love knowing someone fucked their waifu
I'm not joking
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>>549526785
No.
But you get free heals and free draws for more daggers and longer loops (and more morale, but not from his last potential)
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I bricked myself today
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>misses the last copy
fuck this game bro
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>>549527058
nice brick
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>>549527058
Insanely jealous
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You guys kept spamming Mei Lin and now she spooked me. Do I use Douglas as her partner if I'm missing Scarlet?
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>>549523970
i did 500k with this side 2, and i took 7 turns to clear side 1 because my other decks are whatever. this is the same deck i beat crab and family head with.
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are we rolling?
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>>549522473
4 copies of +1 AP Unity and +1 hit per passion card kick
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What is going on here
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>>549527458
we have 300 rolls in the bank, we're rolling for everything
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>>549527458
>big sword
>big ponytail
>big boobs
>big thighs
Big yes.
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Is this trash? this was initially a run for another character but ML started getting stuff so I rerouted
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>>549527361
yeah use big doug
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Okay, hear me out, if new Rei has to stay, what if the devs added proto-Rei as a playable character, except she's not Rei anymore, but her long lost mother (a widow, Rei's dad is kill).
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>>549527747
>precision aim
First time seeing that card. Where did you get that?
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>>549527874
exploration level 25 twin sun (bug world) unlock.
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>Prepatch
>Needed to spend 50-70% of energy farming for credits
>Postpatch
>Credits are essentially an unlimited resource
All that energy burnt on nothing...
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>>549527965
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>>549522473
visual example of a mediocre deck (doesn't have +1 morale on shadow reloads)
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I've done 16 hours worth of runs and haven't gotten a single 4 copy on Cassius
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>>549528132
time well spent........
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>>549528057
I mean, it's not like you need that 3 morale when cassius will give you a gorillion
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>>549528132
you're committing yourself, your body, your sweat, to a man
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>>549527747
Yea it's not bad. I'm sure it doesn't need to be said, but make sure not to exhaust the forbidden and instead use Precision aim to put it back in the deck.
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>>549528564
Don't worry, when we get married I'll get her a female body
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>>549528132
but you had fun tho right? thats the whole point is to have fun
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>>549528057
Not to argue semantics, but I'd say this is "good" imo. It's better than what I have.
You have plenty of other adjectives to describe even better decks.
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>>549527684
>>549527458
reminder they are going to give her pants
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Does deployment order matter?
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>>549526785
It generates random quest cards so you can get Full Houses to cycle the fuck out of your d*ck or more Triple 0s to do more ridiculous amounts of damage
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>>549529035
Yes, it's extremely important. Did you skip the tutorials?
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>>549528132
This is the problem with you retards. You all want the perfect decks with little to no effort. I bet you'd complain about not hitting the jackpot at a casino in merely an hour.
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>>549528057
how is this mediocre
this is borderline bis until eos
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>>549528132
I don't have a single deck with 4 copies of anything
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>>549528553
How does Cass give you althat much morale? I just started using.g mine.
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>>549529553
Yes
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>>549529641
>16 hours of farming in a mobile game is "little to no effort'
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Since my 2nd team will be Tressa+Cassius+Mika, what’s a good first team to use? I have Chizuru which pairs well with Rin and other units and can substitute AP problems from lack of Mika but I worry about the healing if needed
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>>549529035
I completely forgot it did, yes.
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>>549529738
you need his last potential unlocked
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This is all you need to clear all the content in the game btw
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Who's the best wheelchair for Orlea?
I want to make a deck but she can't sustain for shit
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>>549530135
see you bwos in another week, gonna grind funny skull man gems
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>>549529317
Makes sense HOWEVER I'm finally free
But I guess it's good to keep in mind for future events/decks
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>>549529828
it literally doesn't matter as long as you can do it within 5 turns or less. use whatever. 99% of the score is team 2
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>>549520303
I already do.
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DO I REALLY HAVE TO ABUSE TRESSA FOR 500K
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>>549530896
rinGODs know the way
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>>549530896
You don't need to abuse her, just give her tender loving care
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>>549530896
If your goal is just 500k you might be able to achieve it with a different team too. Main focus is healing and damage. The issue is the boss' elasticity cockblocking big combos, so you'd have to use something else, many smaller hits basically. Tressa is the easiest go-to though. Just requires a little bit of save data grind for her and her team.
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>>549530896
Just use your Chizuru.
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I want a new character and I want them NOW!
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>>549530896
If your goal is only 500k, you can use a plethora of options, even Mei Lin is fine for 2nd part.
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>wake up
>time to spend the entire day grinding lab0 so I can get a usable deck and won't miss out on the 500k score rewards
This retarded 2 week deadline lit a fire under my ass
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>>549529553
How does it work? Whenever I try to put them in order the game just goes fuck you and makes the characters deploy in whatever sequence it wants
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>>549531776
yeah this game feels like a fucking chore now, I'm basically forcing myself to play all day just to meet the deadline
Literally like a fucking second job, unfun garbage
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Guide on how you too can hit 500k points on the leaderboard.

>Step One: Assemble the team
Tressa wants at least two Shadow Reloads with the heal epiphany as the most important card. Three is ideal but two can work. Other cards have multiple epiphanies that can work so don't stress too much about them and don't sweat it if you're only aiming for the bare min of 500k

Cassius absolutely wants his final potential that gives free morale. Ideally you would also want the Popper upgrade that lets you choose your quest if you don't want to restart when you don't get the 000 quest and the dice trick upgrade that generates an extra quest card. Don't remove his heal, you want it.

Mika is just Mika, build her normally and make sure has a lot of heals. Some card draw would be helpful too but not a must have.

>Step Two: Actually fighting the boss
If you're struggling and need a guide for this fight, you should probably pick the "Hard" difficulty instead of the "Hell" mode. You can still hit 500k in hard and will face easier enemies so try this out before suffering with Hell mode.

On the first side, you want to bring a team that can kill the mobs every turn and a strong character that can kill the main boss with turns to spare. Ideally, you want to get +5 extra turns for your team 2 which is how you'll get the 500k points.
On the second side, you just want to ignore all the boss mechanics and simply heal. Use your Shadow Reloads and just throw your stuff at the boss. Ideally you want to use your Curse card before anything else and the Cursed Gouge card too if you have it. Leave all the Triple Zero cards that cassius generates for last because these get stronger with every card you use.

If done correctly, you should be able to hit a clean 500k+ and not have to worry about this mode again.
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>>549531659
the real cockblock is 5 turning side one, literally impossible without a godlike mei lin deck or decked out Yuki
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>>549526647
I got the bosses mixed up, it's only the 2nd boss with the blob adds I don't get. I know Wanderer hard counters him but that's not something you always have access to. You can't AoE the adds down and they act in like 3 turns, so there's no way you're killing them all first, and then the boss itself hits you so hard with its strong action that you can't stop. I feel like other bosses can be worked around fairly easily, this is the only one where I always just facetank the big "you failed the mechanics now get fucked" hit and win with sheer damage/healing instead of interacting with the gimmick.
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>>549531776
Why are you grinding Lab 0 for it? You're literally hurting yourself for no reason.
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>>549532040
>reddit tutorial
Yet again they fail to name any comps which can beat side 1 efficiently, everyone knows what to build for side 2, but beating 5 in one turns requires AoE characters to kill the adds 8 times else you lose on the spot, but they ALSO need to do insane single target damage to do 50k dmg in 5 turns
Literally impossible without a godlike Mei Lin/Vero or Yuki deck
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>>549532040
>Cassius needs his final pot
It's so over for me
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>>549532106
you don't need to 5-turn side 1. if you're not playing tressa cassius you'll probably die on turn 8 second side anyways.
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>>549532603
The grindable pot is obtainable with a few days of stamina. You might be confusing the unlockable pots with the dupes? It's pretty easy to unlock, especially if you got any pots left.
Tressa needs literally nothing in terms of potentials but please at least make an effort to give them correct main stat fragments.
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>280 stamina used on potential shards
>leveled up two(2) nodes
Nice fucking game you retarded fucking gooks.
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>>549532795
I was confusing pot with dupes. But I also have no stamina/coffee item/stamina item to go crazy on the potential farming.
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>>549532368
I'm not dropping 65k every time I get the wrong epiphany in fucking zero system, then probably won't get mist or swamp on the reroll and have to spend another 65k
Why would i slog through a 45min run when I know i won't be using the bricked deck without the required cards?
It's a ONE in FIFTEEN chance to get the proper epiphany x3, so 20% overall and if you don't get the proc, the run is bricked
At least I can reset lab0
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>>549532106
5 turning is not important for 500k.
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>>549533047
You can ignore all the other nodes, you only want the final capstone node that gives you morale.
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>>549532751
I literally die on turn 7 side one regardless, I can't kill the adds fast enough
No khalipe, Yuki, ML or gayron built
Without AoE it's impossible
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>>549533138
I 10 turn it because I die to the boss on turn 6, because you need to kill 8 adds in 3 turns or you just lose (good luck without aoe lmao)
5 turns for side B isn't enough
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>>549531459
lol
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>>549533130
What the fuck is your math? No one knows how they separate the probabilities between regular and generic epiphanies so don't go pulling numbers out your ass.
Also who gives a shit about credits now, you're far more likely to hit select copy events in zero system. If you want to Jew for worthless currency, go ahead and waste your time.
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>>549533357
Then bring AOE? Build some AOE??
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>>549533564
Sounds like you should have rolled Yuki
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I'm dumb. If a combatant suffers breakdown and comes back to base like that should I use the premium currency crystals to treat them? Is there collectable stuff like logs I can get this way to get more crystals?
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>finally find a good t15
>don't want to waste it
should I do some 0 cards decks first before I clear it, after resetting so many times finding such an easy t15 will not come back...
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If you could do crab 6/9 then you can do 500k
And if you're so weak you couldn't even do crab then maybe consider working on your characters and coming back later?
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You don't need the left side to do way more than 500K if you use TCM with half decent decks.
Must have:
Tressa with 3 shadow reloads, Cassius with choose quest and at least 2 dice tricks, and the hardest one which is Mika with 3-4 draw epiphanies on her 0 cost cards.
Easiest way to achieve Mika's deck is to reset the lab0 until you get the 2 remove option (it's always the right option) and remove all the cards that can get an epiphany from the other characters, then play the outskirts until you enter the tunnel and see if you get the divine epiphany option there (the middle one is always a divine select card) and use it on her source of water card, if you get draw then continue and try to get 1-2 copies on it, if not reset. This deck is broken in any content for most teams.
Cassius and Tressa can be farmed in the zero system even with low save data, my Cassius deck is 20 points and my Tressa is 70.
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>>549532106
Just be better??
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I just realized that I truly do not want to be doing this same exact thing every 9 weeks.
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Surely they can't be this retarded, right?
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>>549534505
he fucking HATES bunnygirls having fun
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>>549534081
Do not use crystals. At the start you get 3 daily currencies that you use for dates and treating people. Treating people allows you to use their new save data, but you don't need to do it immediately.
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>>549534505
Beryl's card isn't unique tier thoughdesu
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>>549528132
I can't even get a 3 copy on my cas
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>>549534081
delete their memories with gold if they arent worth keeping, returning to base mindbroken only happens once a day maximum per character and you can store up to 10 corrupted saves

if you want to keep the save, you get 3 passes to counsel them everyday, which is also a shared currency with excursions
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>>549534293
You don't even need dice trick, I got my 500k without it. The 3-4 copy autism is what's killing people and making them burn out when you can get through with 2 shadow reloads and the most mediocre cassius deck as long as you know how the fight works.
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>>549534293
I did it with 2 Shadow reload and 1 dice trick. As long as you have a decent Mika, 500k is easy
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>>549534505
Is it possible to copy a card before it gets a unique epi, then get the unique epis on both cards?
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>>549534505
Nigga you have legit proof these faggots play favorites to the point it ruined the story and got their actual novel writer quitting from how dog shit it is there. How is it possible you people think these people are ignorant of their actions? You can bet these characters kits and art and story bits are all fought tooth n nail, we only heard of Director Louis and the Shotahags but do you really think the rest of the staff are innocent? Innocent people are like the writer, they fucking leave.

Smilegate staff is like Chaos itself, shit ton of degenerates that like to larp as normal people. It wouldn’t even surprise me if the pubeflossers in this general work for their localization team though I doubt it cause they do this shit for free all day.
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>>549533782
>Also who gives a shit about credits now
I only have 2mil left since I started late, and zero shit will eat them in no time

>No one knows how they separate the probabilities between regular and generic epiphanies so don't go pulling numbers out your ass.
I only see Tressa's shadow reload on heal epi about once in every 20 resets of lab
Do you think I'm going to reset fucking zero shitstem 20 times (1.5mil credits) to get the fucking right epi? retardBROWN
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>>549533357
>Without AoE it's impossible

No, you just don't want to experiment other possible decks. For example, Beryl (a character everyone has) is able to do side 1 with her opening found deck. Renoa is also able to do side 1 (in 5 turns at that) with Nia. Both of them don't have ANY innate AoE anywhere in their cards, but they simply do a lot of attacks in a single turn that it doesn't matter. Even Luke is able to do side 1; you get the fucking point.

Is it easier with AoE? Of course, but to say it's impossible without it is disingenuous af
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>>549534505
>doubting
lolmao
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>>549534675
By the logic that Firing preparation is so OP it needs unique then so does Opening Found 5
Beryl's gimmick is that she is building damage while holding the card anyway. The upgrade just adds more free damage.

Only in a world where Tressa exists does Opening Found 5 seem only "pretty good"
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>>549535131
The odds of that on lab0 are almost 0 lmao.
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Is there a teambuilding deckbuilder roguelite that isn't a gacha game?
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>>549535257
Braindead moron thinks that his extremely small sample size is anywhere close to the true probability. Enjoy farming Lab 0, I'll be laughing at your one copy of Shadow Reload.
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>>549534505
All upgrades should be unique, buff each accordingly. This shit is so easy to fix.
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>>549530617
Really? Alright I can go Veronica+Chizuru+Rin then.
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What does deployment order affect?
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>>549535308
>No, you just don't want to experiment other possible decks.
Yeah, a ton of people don't want to put in the effort and just want to get top% on the leaderboard for free. Sadly, PVP games tend to give these people a rude awakening.
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What memory fragments for her?
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>>549535529
chrono ark
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>>549534505
It's actually a buff for Selena's upgrade to be Unique. You think that anyone wants to copy that? Fuck no.
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You guys actually think this game is RNG? That there's no such thing as internal claculations? That they're not reducing the epi rates of characters based on the leaderboard to prolong chaos gameplay? You don't think copy events were removed on purpose? Really?
Must be nice to live in such a naive trusting viewpoint of the world.
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>>549535774
Veronica already solves side 1 completely alone. If you have Veronica then give her giant ballista and she should clear the adds every turn. Your other slot should be your strongest damage dealer that can actually kill the main body and the last one a support that isn't Mika.

>>549535891
Agony 2pc and atk% 2pc
atk%/atk%/atk%
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>>549535909
Alright, I think I'm just gonna play that instead then. Grinding the exact same deck with the exact same characters every 9 weeks is one thing, gacha is another thing, and bullshit like artifactslop is yet another thing, and I just don't think I can handle doing all of those things at once within the same game.
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no Vero, took 8 turns side 1
TCM still kills boss in 6 turns in side 2
see you in 2 weeks
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Anyone ever get monster cards by attacking them in unidentified areas?
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>>549536124
don't forget to uninstall and close the thread
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>>549535989
>You don't think copy events were removed on purpose?
Keep in mind that Lab 0 was not even originally part of the Zero system. They want this game to be a million times worse than what they are currently getting away with, and even when they make concessions to the playerbase, the fuck it up as much as they can in return.

Examples: new event overlapping with copy event while the boss does not provide a copy event, removing the cats for no fucking reason, you can farm normal Chaos planets but they don't count for Seasonal weekly, etc.
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>same 3 shitters on phase 2
braindead community
yawn
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>>549536124
yeah fair the artifact shit is so fucking gay man what were they thinking it's horrible even by gachashit standards
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>finally get the lab copy event
>the run is going so shit I don't even have a card that's worth copying
>maybe the epithany will hit something good...
>lands on whirlpool
fun times
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>>549535826
nah its just shitposting for the sake of shitposting
the leaderboard just gives the usual retards an easy point of attack but we'll move to something else next month when the leaderboard goes away and is replaced with something else
also I love how the thread spent a whole month schizoing out over how Yuki was the worst character ever but suddenly she's good now and a must have because all the top players are using her
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>>549534809
The Mika deck is totally worth it, and farming an half decent TCM is also totally worth it. It carried my ass in basin already.
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I am losing to my dick bros
Even after fapping I still want to roll...
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>>549535131
I'm pretty sure the answer is no. This is the only way to fire off two uniques
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>>549537078
It's definitely worth it since it's the strongest team in the game right now but what I wanted to show is that you don't NEED it.

A ton of anons are torturing themselves for 3 shadow reloads, 3 dice tricks, 4 gearbags when the most basic ass TCM team on HARD MODE can get you the coveted 500k and all your rewards.
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welcome home, veronica.
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fuuuuuuuck...
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>>549536927
Tbf they are shilling her in the event as she's the only AoE who can benefits from the buff + order first phase.
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>>549536927
they are not removing leaderboard and they encourage farming perfect decks.

>suddenly she's good now and a must have because all the top players are using her
who the fuck said Yuki is a must have? Are you fucking retarded
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>>549536079
Oof. My Veronica had a really goodd deck with drawpower but unfortunately the Ballista wasn't a Giant one.
Well, guess I was already gonna farm a new deck for Tressa anyway. Might as well see if I can get one.
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>>549537502
uh oh melty
baby need diaper change?
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>>549537602
You'll get a ton of mileage out of a giant veronica anyway since it'll be your go-to deck on anything that has adds like the farming stages for example so it's a worthy addition to your roster.
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>>549537340
I like her voice but I'm not rolling. You'll get spooked by her sooner or later anyway.
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hello gook devs
refund brickzuru now
thank you
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>>549537486
I mean, of course they're shilling her. Yuki was always good, the problem with characters like Yuki or Khalipe is that we had ZERO aoe content in the game so now we do have a stage that requires you to AOE things down so she's suddenly good now.
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hey
give me money
thx
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>>549537626

i remember you retard from yesterday.
you dont even play the game, why are you even here?
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>>549537467
Why do people use healer partners on Cassius when they give no attack? Ritochka gives 3 morale on her ego and almost 100 attack for him.
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>>549538090
to laugh at ESL monkeys like you?
must suck not being able to afford education or entertainment hahahaha
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>>549522991
If we get a person similiar to adelhide who makes all status cards 0, he will have a better time.
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Are you fucking kidding me with this fucking bullshit? All three of these are worse than the original card
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>>549538286
Because it's an extra 3 daggers for tressa and it's usually what they have? 3 morale isn't also that impactful when cassius is generating morale for free
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>"Ah~ Taichou! You'd really want to go on a date with an old married lady like me? I never realized you had those kinds of tastes~"
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Gayron status?
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>>549538527
Take the 3rd one and be happy with it
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>>549522991
Kayron is probably the character who gets the most benefit from dupes. Even his E1 is crazy!
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>>549523528
Yeah. Everyone and their mother will have optomized tressa decks to have chains by the end.
The cut off will be at least +2-300k
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>>549538535
pretty nice guy for carrying my shitters in lab 0
also extremely cool vfx
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>>549538349
i live very comfortable here in europe, thanks for your concerns.
but you should seek help or just end it desu
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Is there a way to improve save data or do you always start from scratch?
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>>549522263
cute picture
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>>549526785
Everything good about him for tressa mika is his upgrades. The rest is irrelevent since you draw your whole deck every turn
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>>549534640
>>549534727
Wow I didn't realize the date tickets were the same as the counseling ones since I always burn those at the start of the day. Thanks.
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>>549539352
scratch
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I feel like this a DBZ reference but I can't recall exactly what
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Which one guys?
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>>549539795
Left. Middle can be alright if you have a REALLY good Nia deck.
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>>549539419
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>>549539785
it always reminds me of Light
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>>549539785
looks more like a yugioh reference to me
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>>549527058
Is she good for anything? I randomly got her, but she still gets shit on in chaos.
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>>549539795
right feels good, left can work if you save if for the forbidden card and you don't already have vulnerable somewhere else like on condensation or whatever (the common that moves forbidden)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoT_kTrwK8Y
Wtf but I thought chizuru bad?
How come she can do side 2?
AIEEEEEEEEEE I'M GOING INSANEEEEE
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i fucking hate those shiny enemies. havent maxed my zero system upgrades so they randomly kill my run, it is so bad that theres negatives for upgrading it and you have to suffer through it until you max it
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>>549540207
only 600k with a cassius deck? that's kind of dire...
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New to Tressa (been using Rin for void stuff). Which one should I take here?
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>>549540382
Reset
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>>549538531
One of the sexiest women in the game.
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>>549540041
spending your stamina, any two cost aoe + vulture ejection will clear a wave of the annoying 3-4 mob simulations. i use amir khalipe veronica.
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>>549540382
do yourself a favor
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>>549540023
i find the pouting very cute
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>>549539785
I don't see it
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can i just refund the 50€ i spent on this?
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>>549540382
Tressa wants the epiphany that generates daggers on heal. If you don't get that then the deck is worthless.
If your other two characters got good decks then you can continue the run but a tressa deck without the heal epiphany is terrible
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>>549540382
These are all shit. You want the upgrade version where it generates daggers on heal from skill cards. Have fun grinding.
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>>549540838
Probably my imagination
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>>549539785
OWARI DAAAA
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>>549540382
>X cost
>1 dagger per AP
A retard balanced this game
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>>549540838
He looks like he just opened a chest in a dungeon
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they should only buff and create overpowered male characters
that would be so awesome and funny
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I love agony gaming.
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>>549541294
It's the 0 cost daggers; doesn't make it better though. But yes, a retard did balance the game.
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>>549541294
b-but the healing
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>>549540382
>>549541294
what is "x"?
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>>549541879
use that atrophied brown brain fed on nothing but slop and think for yourself
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>>549541879
X = use all remaining AP.
Example: You have 5 AP, it'll use all 5 and create 5 daggers.
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Next boss is gonna gut agony, you can still stack agony and it will go off for one turn but it will have a move that cleanses it off. You heard it here first.
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>>549542186
i heard it here first
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>>549542257
No, i heard it first.
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Any leaks on the next combatant?
I'm really hoping she's a good support/healer.
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>>549542186
I feel like it just drops TCM to mei lin + veronica tier because you are still playing 10000 cards and still have the morale stacking with the potential of infinite shield/heals that mei lin + vero does not.
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>>549533665
Bro?
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>>549543164
>Higher score than 99% of anons in this thread
>Using the two supposedly ""brick units""
lemao
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This game needs more trans representation
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Narja is defense-based.
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>>549542952
Void Striker DPS
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>>549543706
why are you like this
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>>549536210
Where’s your position? It just shows top 3%?
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>>549544313
Fine, let's get freaky and release a Void Psionic DPS character because we don't have enough void characters in the game.
You happy now? Is that what you wanted?
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If Void is the schizo attribute and Justice is FAT FUCK, which attribute is the sex attribute?
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>>549543672
Nyo
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>>549521009
It's also the one with the best atmosphere. You really feel like you're in an alien place
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can i leave cas at 50 for 500k?
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>>549544761
Instinct. Sexual instinct.
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>>549537467
wait who heals at the first boss? what happens there?
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>>549543672
Maybe they will finally fix defense base dps
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>>549544807
Yes, make sure you promote him though for the last potential.
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>>549544536
listen here you little shit
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>>549544923
yeah just did that, thanks
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>>549544761
Passion obviously, it's in the name.

>>549544807
You want to promote him to 60 but don't actually level him to 60 so you can get his final potential. Tressa doesn't even need to be promoted to 60 but the extra attack helps if you have resources to waste.
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Anyone else /casual/ now?
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>>549545051
no we are hardcore now. the leader boards saved this game.
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>best run i've had in days is ruined because of mindbreak
I'm so sick of this shitty mechanic.
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>>549545051
hardcoreGODs run this place
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>>549544924
>>549544313
Real answer, we don't know. Speculated that Sereniel will be our next character since she was the third shown character but we have literally zero info on her so basically just sit tight and save for another month because she's most likely going to be either another DPS or a tank given her design.
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>>549545264
what's hardcore about that?
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>>549545152
Unironically true
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girls are so beautiful
god i wish they were real
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Does anyone have a partner tierlist?
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>>549545492
It really is a shame that girls aren't real anymore.
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>>549531776
you will have to do this all over again with each new season. stop bitching and get used to it.
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>>549542952
She’s an Instinct dps that’s supposed to ravage based on the new set.
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How do you get different planets to show up in zero?
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>>549536927
>suddenly she's good now
sure man when she gets mega buffed by the event and you're forced to kill adds in first half if you don't have an otk deck for it
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>>549545492
I wish I was a girl...
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>>549541803
We need another form of dot.
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>>549545537
something like this?
The tl;dr is rangers want rosaria, gunners want akad, strikers want lilian or the bear and supports just slap a healer partner on them
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>>549545537
I gotchu bwo
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>>549546187
burn
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Fire Woman when? Ignite as a % of dmg?
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>>549546585
post the ahegao version
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>>549546392
>>549545537
3* Partners aren't getting nerfed, 4*s and 5*s are getting buffed.

Also, you forgot Janet. And Scarlet is barely better than Douglas. Honestly, remove Scarlet and put Janet there instead. The doctor 4* isn't good either.
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>>549546662
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>>549540382
The 2 cost one I thought its useless till I actually used that to defeat the Squidhead and its dogs.
If you have 2 shadow daggers, you do X3 Dmg to all Enemies.
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>>549545304
Nah, someone said the new instinct gear is related to Sereniel so she is going to be a ravage instinct.
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>>549546187
Rupture
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>>549545920
Reroll in zero
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>>549546714
Didn't smilegate say something about how they were adjusting the numbers because people chimped about how Douglas was better than 5-stars?
Hopefully real and they don't nerf the lower rarities
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>>549535426
their logic (and I say this lightly) is that the 3 top cards are unconditional and the 3 bottom you need to do a specific thing (heal, retain, complete quest)
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>>549547057
>Didn't smilegate say something about how they were adjusting the numbers because people chimped about how Douglas was better than 5-stars?
Yes, they said they would be adjusting the numbers of the 4*s and 5*s, and they have already course corrected with Chizuru's Partner by being complete retards who do not know anything at all about their game so they just gave her the same stat bonus as the 3*s because that's the best they can come up with.
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>>549537349
nah, since upgrades arent counted as skill cards
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I'll marry Rei
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we need a character with a bunch of draw 1 cards that does stuff through attunement effects
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>>549547325
at least they're attempting to course correct
there's shit like stella sora where the players keep complaining about the retarded balance or all the problems with the game but the devs haven't communicated once with the players since like launch so I appreciate smilegate is at least making an attempt even if it's a very clumsy and scuffed attempt to fix shit
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>Farming for a Chizuru decks
>Stumble upon a Rin goddeck
Is this peak performance? She may as well be an AP generator at this point
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any content creator suggestions for newbies? im completely clueless when it comes to card games like this and prefer to learn the game meta wise
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>>549547709
Saintontas
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>>549547709
anyone but the pagpag you were just told. hes a grifter
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>>549547709
this will get a million replies
you should probably check the official discord
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>>549547709
WG: CZN, he does the most informative non-padded videos out there for this game
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>>549547697
welcome to the ringod guild
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>>549547697
holy shit... do you play her with discard teamates? otherwise that eternal hunger is ok but not amazing
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>>549547592
>at least they're attempting to course correct
Well, keep in mind they also added the bullshit event which overlaps with the copy event while giving a boss that does not provide a copy event. They still want to fuck you over, but the fact that 3*s are as good or better than 4*s and 5*s means that its affecting their bottom line and causing whales to get upset.
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>>549547697
Just don't use her with bind chizuru lol
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>>549547937
that cunt is just another grifter
literally did another LIMITEDS CONFIRMED FOR CZN! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!! and it was just him reading launch patch notes for eight minutes
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>>549547709
WG or Kozmic. They're both very informative and plays the game at a non-glue eating level.
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>>549547961
I might look for a Veronica build with that Marksman ability that draws and moves a card to the top deck to take advantage of it. And if not, it's a retain skill for Black Dance hit count
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>>549547697
i would rather just use veronica with +1 ap on her 0 cost draw 2 than this shit with that forbidden and the ranger card that puts the forbidden on top of the deck. whats the point of this?
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>>549546475
>most 3* partners are god tier

grim
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Sick chains of obsession deck.
Time for 60 more runs until rng decides to give it to me again.
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The renoa build I want would need 4 duplicates, but maybe I'm too greedy. Someone help my cut 1 of the dupes:
3 upgrade dirge bullet turn start
2 flower discards 3 and creates bullets
no basics
the 3-hitter with the exhaust all bullets epi
2 "when this card goes to discard, do extra attack"
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>>549548467
Making her AP positive allows her to be played anywhere really and she hits like a truck, the forbidden is just an extra
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>>549548646
blue pot? how many runs?
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>>549548646
Are you aiming for top 1% or what?
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>>549548394
>And if not, it's a retain skill for Black Dance hit count
yeah nevermind it's a god deck, I always find myself struggling to hit the max hit count on it.
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I'm on hour 8 today of trying to build a Tressa deck and I either can't get copies of her Upgrade or I don't get the Upgrade epiphany.
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>>549548760
>no morale buffs
>ap
>draw
>"sub dps"
veronica is just a way better version of this trash that can draw an entire deck so your dps actually does damage. and can use a morale buffer while buffing herself and the dps. but you do you
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>>549548931
Yeah chaos of obsession with blood stone lets you repeatedly damage and heal yourself and generate shield while doing TCM combo which gives a large amount of extra score.
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>>549549112
Stop going to lab0
Start going to city of mist instead
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>>549548931
I am in top 1%. I'm aiming for top 10 or top 5, dunno. Or I'll give up because there's too many layers of rng.
>>549548875
Yes, blue pot. I think you can only get it from the events that give legendary gear or the boss drops. It was unironically 40+ runs until I saw it once.
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>>549549303
are you finishing all blue pot runs or just reseting with chaos orbs/credits?
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>>549549243
I know, that's why I asked if they were going for top 1% cause you only need to do that if you want to go for a top spot
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>>549549112
you dont need the shadow reload upgrade for anything retard
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>>549549243
>blood stone
once per turn no?
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>sweeting for something that will only work for a single boss.

so many autistic people here
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Are there any CC's that actually do calcs for this game? I still can't find any non conflicting info on Attribute% vs ATK% goblets for main dps.
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nice thread NTrGODS
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>>549549646
Tbf it works in basin, and the 9/9 bosses.
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>>549549646
Deckbuilders are for autistic people
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>>549549646
>so many autistic people here
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>>549549773
until it doesn't. because they are now seeing the data
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I finally can use gift
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>>549549303
>Yes, blue pot. I think you can only get it from the events that give legendary gear or the boss drops. It was unironically 40+ runs until I saw it once.
Can't you get it from elites? Also, are the other planets where you can get it from worse?
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>>549549969
Smart
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>>549549404
I finish the runs where I get the correct reload/vital attack epiphanies, since I assume chains can still drop from the last boss. Otherwise I just reset and reroll with orbs or units. When I started I had like 4k chaos orbs, now I'm at nearly zero and I had to use units few times.
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>>549549969
Who are you feeding
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>>549549890
I want to see if it'll work on the second score grind mode. Might be too early for them to manage to nerf it and I'm not sure they'll try to counter the tech.
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Bets on what the next boss will be like?
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>>549550080
>Dropping units for le funny leaderboard
holy autism
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>>549549890
So you're saying they're going to make the whole game anti-tressa? Interesting design decision anon
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>>549550343
if they are too pussy to nerf they are making the whole game anti tressa anti cassius
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>>549550315
Gonna be 3x the damage sponge of great rift boss with 10 body parts with each part having an attack so Yuki is finally useful and Chizuru returns to brick.
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>>549549646
>many autistic people here
>glance at domain name
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>>549550315
what is "the next boss"?
leaderboard or the stack shit?
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>>549550025
>Can't you get it from elites?
I thought so, and I was specifically targeting elites and always choosing plus elite mods, but I haven't seen it drop a single time in those 40+ runs. So I swapped to just targeting event nodes, since blue pot has a lot of events that give legendary gear.
>Also, are the other planets where you can get it from worse?
Twin shadows is very annoying to do with Tressa because it's mostly aoe fights with insects. I'd have to build Khalipe to carry her there, but with blue pot I just use Mei Lin and she gets the work done easily.
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>>549550317
Thanks
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>>549550472
Might as well make everything anti-Mei Lin and anti-Veronica as well, no?
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>>549550317
>autism
Where do you think we are? Also, I do not particularly care about maxing out any characters I don't have at 55/60 already. There isn't much use for units for now.
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just make every boss anti-every character
except for magna, she's pure unfiltered shit
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>>549550625
they already started with mei lin in the event boss. basin rotates every 2 weeks. give them a month. and veronica herself isn't doing the damage, they still have to consider trying to make content anti tressa/cassius/mei lin without nerfing other characters or else its pointless.
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>>549550730
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>>549550473
>Multiple body part bosses
We unironically need this sooner than later so everyone can stop obsessing over mei lin and tressa's cock
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>>549550910
>they already started with mei lin
>Still one of the best characters to do it with
They gonna have to try much harder
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>>549551123
how many mei lins are on rightguard anon? unless you mean left which any team in top 100 would easily kill in 5 turns. didn't think i was talking to a retarded shitstain that doesn't even know that but here we are.
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add an event where we can reroll epiphanies.
NOW
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Might as well ask for an event where the game plays the EoS card.
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>>549551551
LESS randomization? MORE predictability? Why not just let you choose the cards you want at the beginning of every run - or better yet, skip chaos entirely so you can claim your monthly rewards and stop playing the game?
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>>549544921
Counters can crit and counter do extra damage based on your current shield and do bonus damage based on the damage your shields block and you heal from blocking an attack with your shield and all the vanguards have sex with me.
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>>549551280
That just proves my point. There will always be a place where you can use Cassius, Tressa even if they try to counter them. Just like how they 'nerfed' Mei Lin and she is still used in the event boss.
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>>549549746
>yenless zone zero
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>>549550914
Imagine that face but covered in cum
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>>549551931
Mei lin is only used in the first half that no one cares about since its too easy, you can even use maribell there and get max points
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>>549550317
>I don’t care about the leaderboard and the sticker bro
>1000 seething posts about it and calling anons autists
not insecure at all, you sure don't care lil bro
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>>549552095
i always die there, am i retarded
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>Game refuses to epiphany me
t-thanks
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>>549551551
This is the problem with you retards. You all want the perfect decks with little to no effort. I bet you'd complain about not hitting the jackpot at a casino in merely an hour.
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>>549552095
And yet the majority still use Mei Lin? Why? Surely not because she destroys still destroys the first side even when they nerfed her?
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>>549551745
i'm not brown enough for repetitive pointless long-term tasks THAT RELY on rng instead of cognitive merit. Just the way it is.
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>>549552140
No they are way oversimplying the 1st half because they have well built characters and are dismissive. Basically you need at least enough aoe or enough attacks to chew through the 8 mobs to get the hand reset. Mei-lin usually runs with Veronica which can pull you're whole hand and kill adds while she kills the main boss.

Just look at the teams and their decks to get a general idea.
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>>549552347
>she says that while playing gacha of all things
sister....
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>>549552124
nta i was making fun of you tressa shitters sweating for a "bis" deck when it's not going to be right worthy like the investment you right it will be for long. Also basin rotates out too, don't expect them to give you a permanent easy pass there too.
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>>549552284
I think it's reasonable to be able to get the base epiphanies you want far more often than you currently do. There's plenty of other points of RNG with divines/neutrals/equipment/forbidden/events/copies as far as "perfect" goes.
Also you say "effort" like it isn't just brainlessly resetting and clearing the beginning of chaos runs that have no actual difficulty if you have a decently invested team.
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>>549552140
You probably just haven't built your characters up enough yet. When these people say it's easy they just mean that it's possible to do with a variety of comps if you grind enough, not that you can walk in with a level 20 maribell and steamroll it with her base save data.
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>>549552347
>repetitive pointless long-term tasks THAT RELY on rng
you do realize the game's genre, correct?
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>>549552341
Left side is easy as fuck. People are going to use the deck they farmed/character they invested in the most even if they nerfed her for the content left is still doable but right side will get you destroyed by all the tressas, even chizuru+hugo is better than fucking mei lin lmao because of the nerfs
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>>549552508
>>549552640
mainstream gachas all added pity for a reason thougheverbeitly
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I fucking hate rng in my roguelike gacha card game.
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I hope they make left side points matter next time so all the retards can stop saying: but mei lin is so good because everyone is using her!
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>>549552745
Then we both agree with my original point. "you will always have a place to use Tressa and Cassius". Just like how the made the boss anti-mei Lin and she's still used there?
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PSA if you are under 500k point by the time the event ends you will be raped.
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>zero divine epiphanies
Would you settle?
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>>549553108
>As long as they make the content easy as fuck and doesn't matter*
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>>549553259
never. also this build looks like dogshit. how do you ever get to bind 5
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>>549553275
So all the content? I guess Tressa, Cassius and Mei Lin will dominate till EoS then.
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>>549552849
huh ?? i wasn't even talking about the gacha aspect. you're literally complaining that there's "pointless tasks" that rely on rng in a rng focused game LMFAO.

that's like complaining about not pulling off an infinite claw build for defect from StS every single run.
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>>549552508
>>549552640
As i said, i'm too white for this and you totally missed the nuance because all your chimpanzee unrefined brain can do is black and white and defend your bias because you feel PERSONALLY attacked when someone attacks your team and yoou miss the fucking point in your attempt to validate your dumb brown choices, just subhuman behavior.
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>>549553735
pretty sure there's like at least four different people involved in this conversation, i don't know what you said and i'm pretty sure you don't know what i said either
my point is just that RNG is well and good up to a point, you can like having some level of RNG yet still think there can be too much of it.
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>>549529006
It’s not a Chinese game.
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The leaderboard should have been infinite Chaos, scoring you based on how far you go. It would be a lot more skill-based than grind-based
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>>549553732
basin and event leader are generally contents that do matter to the dev team and what will be used there is going to catch the eyes of the devs.

This little poor shitter is scared he won't be able to permanently use this stragety without gimping himself. Being number 1 by far is going to make you a dev target. Too bad for you pagpag.
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>>549554057
There'll still be a meta and people would still complain. Nothing would change.
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>>549554057
that's the mode we get in january
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>>549510514
They are mythics
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>>549523047
Veronica is a better draw bot, not a better sub dps.
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>>549553735
Pretty sure he's doesn't have a beef with that you just laser-focused on it for no reason, read the last part of that very same sentence and it might just click.
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>>549554154
There'll still be a meta and people would still complain, but the incentives would align with the game design so it would be more coherent and fun overall. Losing because you took too much damage and died, feels more intuitive than losing because you didn't roll the right epiphany.
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>>549553259
Its good enough for anywhere you're gonna use this type of build at the moment. The one place where it being better matters is great rift and you're probably not using this build there anyways.
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>>549554057
I'm pretty sure they will do some sort of Chaos leaderboard in the future. The current system incentivizes grinding over pulling for characters/spending. Even if you have a million dupes and perfect characters, you'll still need to run meta.
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Is Chizuru still fun to use if I'm playing kinda casually (fishing for good decks but not perfect ones)?
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>>549553432
Can anyone answer my question? How can that dog build ever be good? You need to hit the enemy like. 25 times to get bind 5
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>>549554757
Yes she has 3 viable builds
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>>549554256
So they aren't boosted by anything in his potential tree?
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>>549554116
>Basin (Shilling the current banner character)
>Event Ladder (Shilling the season characters)
Yes, I'm sure the devs care about forever countering Tressa, Mei Lin, Cassius and Veronica when creating these. I continue gimping myself clearing all the content with all the above.
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>>549555027
When (current banner characters) are all worse even through (buff shilling), yeah they are aware of that. Everyone is aware of that.
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>>549554879
LUKE
YOU USE FUCKING LUKE
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOMBOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOMBOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
THAT'S 25 THERE'S YOUR BIND
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>>549554594
I feel like there would be even more complaints
>Had to restart my run because I didn't get the perfect starter
>Didn't get ((Character)) so I couldnt do ((Boss mechanic))
And the same complaints as now
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>>549555352
what's crazy to me is that it's actually a huge amount of buff shilling, x2.5 damage is crazy work, like they didn't want to bother fine tuning it so they threw some arbitrarily huge multiplier for maximum overkill, and it still wasn't enough.
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>>549554757
Shes fun to use if you think ahes fun to use. What kinda dumbass subjective question is that.

If asking is she good, sure. Shes good enough.
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>Finally unlocked it
Surely it won't taint my item pool
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>>549555732
what does 1 storege mean in choas zero?
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>>549555490
Actually yeah you're right, the problem is that a leaderboard needs point scoring rather than a binary "did you win or lose", so putting the score in Chaos rather than outside of it wouldn't help.
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>>549554961
I think they are unique but the unique potential doesn't work on triple 0 because it counts as having 0% base damage or something
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>>549555983
You can roll 1AP over per turn
This happens ONCE per storage per battle
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>>549555352
And your idea for them is for them to counter Mei Lin, Tressa, Cassius, Veronica forever? All future content will contain mobs, bosses that have mechanics to counter all of them? And TC MV will always be unplayable?
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So if I just remove Chizurus inhibit card she becomes playable? That shit is so ass, trading potentially 2-3 ap per turn for -1 on a random card? What were they thinking
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i love mei lin
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Doesn't the boss only cucks cards that do multi hits? Then just use nuke cards like Beryl or Kayron
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>>549556249
Just wait until the boss that only lets you play 3 cards per turn and then having 2 auto activates will be amazing.
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>>549556391
Oh yeah? Name every Mei Lin.
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>leave the run earlier because this retarded game didn't give me the right epiphany for the 12th time in a row
>character that wasn't even close to a breakdown was sent to the Epitome Center just because
Kill all gooks.
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>>549556249
It also gives her moon slash or whatever the big move she has another hit.
And if you dont do that, theres not really a point in using her.
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>>549556391
And she loves (You)! And literally every other person
!
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>>549556452
Characters only get sent to the psych ward once a day so either let them be and carry on as normal or cure them and rejoice in knowing they wont get sent back again that day
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new boss in 2 hours
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>>549549646
>only work for a single boss
It works for everything until they put in a modifier on a boss that specifically nerfs it.
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>>549556249
But you can easily get 2+ AP every turn with epiphanies while freeing up your Mika slot. You only should really remove it if you HAVE to run her with Mika.
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>>549556737
yea yea it's a gay wolf I've been through my fair share of furry games
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>>549556669
Nta but thats good to know
Thanks gwo
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>>549556440
there's only one mai lin that matters to (me)
picrel
>>549556452
My choas always schizo out at random in spite of not even breaking at all whatsoever start to finish i thought this was just normal?
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>hit 300 for selector
>still no Cassius
>every other 4* at least E1
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https://youtu.be/qCD-ClI1EuA?si=iGquiQb2oizfVl8q
800K chizuru without cassius and without abusing heal/shield
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>>549556020
I get what you mean, but at the end of the day, leaderboards create competition and there'll always be people who will "cheese" or find a way to be the best, so a meta will always be formed and those that can't adapt or don't want to will always complain. Personally, I think this leaderboard event is fine. I'm sure the next boss or leaderboard(however they implement it) will have mechanics where certain teams will be better than others and we'll be at a similar situation to now, where people complain about a certain team or if they design the boss to shill the current banner/season characters and the only way to get a high score is if you pull them.
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>>549557132
finally some honest content
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>>549557132
b-b-b-but /czn/ told me chizuru was a brick!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>549557132
I kneel Tressa could never without her two wheelchairs
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Should I have duplicated Repose instead of Ecstasy?
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>>549556180
Yes that is what they have to do. Unless they nerf them outright. Then they can avoid balancing the game around the mistakes.

1. Nerf them. Dont have to do it anymore
2. Keep making the content unfriendly to these characters, just so you dont have to nerf them on paper.
3. Powercreep the fuck out of everything.

Every outcome will have some negegative and thats because of their fault with their shitty design card design overlooking them when balancing.
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Help my dumbass understand

Why is converting so much better than just standard removal? Do I want to convert if the card in question is just "okay"?
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>>549557132
Delete this NOW
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>>549556806
You also remove it if you run characters that have +1AP divines. I have a Rei that has alot of draw and +AP and the Inhibit sick. I'm sure that goes the same way if you run her with Veronica with a lot of +AP draw
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Extra attacks are really getting fucked by everything huh?
-doesn't gain bonus from hitting weakness
-doesn't reduce count on things you want it to reduce count (ie hunger)
-reduces count on vulnerable though, fuck you
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>>549557559
Unless you're veronica then you're simply WINNING
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>>549557515
Removing costs save-data points, converting costs nothing
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>>549557418
It's not the 0 cost +1ap Repose so I don't think it matters.
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>>549557132
>200k under top score
>cassius
Just a worse tressa that costs more. Why would anyone run this brick?
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I had an idea bwos.
So you know how the checkpoints right now are kinda shit right?
Maybe before you go into a chaos you can pick 2 buffs. One for each floor. The buffs are like get a divine epiphany on a random card, or epiphany on a selected card, copy a card, convert a card, etc.
Make the stronger buffs like copy a specific card or divine epiphany on the second floor check point.
But you can only pick 2 per chaos one for each checkpoint so you can kinda target what you're going for.
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>>549557132
Yuki would never
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What are the cutoffs for each rank right now? Is there a way to check?
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>>549557559
They get bonuses on morale and do more damage to the tenacity. Fake news
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>>549557831
nyo its all guesswork my 830k that was previously master tier is now a diamond scrub
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>>549557740
I mean Mei Lin can "only" get 800K or less too on team 2, do you call Mei Lin a brick?
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>>549557515
removing your 1st card is free, but if it's a basic its +20 points. Converting a card is +10 points.
removing a common card as your 1st removal is free. You save 10 points by doing this
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bros, i dodged the meta tressa builds this whole time and now... i give up. i can see the deck builds but what about memory fragments? what lines does tressa want the most? should i just strip luke and give them to her?
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>>549557515
So if you remove a basic card its 20 + 0.
20 for removing a basic, and then 0 for first removal.
If you convert a basic then remove it its 0. It no longer counts as a basic, and then 0 for first removal.
Or you can just keep it if its a good convert. It doesn't give you the -20 for removing a basic or the 0 from removing it since you're not removing it.
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>>549557789
>The buffs are like get a divine epiphany on a random card, or epiphany on a selected card, copy a card, convert a card, etc.
LOL

Bro, SmileGate added something that fucks copy events. Every time they give, they also take. They don't want us to have a fun time. They want everyone to grind for 50 hours to get a good set of decks. That's what they want. They want it to be ever more of a grueling task, but people keep pushing back on it.
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>>549557515
Converting is only 10 points better than removal normally, because convert costs an extra 10 versus removing a character card which costs an extra 20. The part that's "so much better" is when you convert to a card with [Remove], because that removes itself, in addition to already saving 10 points you also avoid the base removal cost, which scales really high for multiple removals (0, 10, 30, 50) so you end up saving a fuckton of points.
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>>549557791
Be worse on order aoe boss than a 4 star? Like how chizuru is worse than a void single target 4 star? We know. Would never.
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>>549557931
>tenacity
only mark does tenacity dmg. bullets and ballista don't.
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>>549557514
But they won't do 1 and 2. If you balance everything going forward around those 4 characters at once, it affects the whole roster. No one is happy. At best, they'll try to balance against 1 of the teams(The team that doesn't affect the current characters banners gimmick) but not all of them at once.
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>>549556783
The deck won't work for anything ever again when the season ends. You'll need to make all of them from scratch with some new retarded season 2 rules.
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>>549557985
If you just want to get 500k and get out, you don't have to worry about frags too much since the biggest damage increase comes from the build. Just slap on whatever you have on hand, don't waste time thinking about it too much.
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>>549558108
Kayron E6 with Bria is worse than tressa
Truly the brickest of void bricks
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>>549557946
Yeah shes a brick for this event, might be every event if they keep this debuff so she doesnt outright go to 10 million and make the dev team look even more pathetic. For this level of investment tressa cassius mika can do it effortlessly with an easier to get build.
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>>549558354
fair enough. i dont give a shit about autism maxing or the sticker
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>>549555693
Reminder that the second half boss will be a Sereniel shill. Sereniel is confirmed Instinct. The Cassius Tressa teams will go from the dagger damage buff to triple 0 damage buff and we'll be seeing his cards reach 5 digits even on weaker builds.
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>>549557831
>>549557934
It’s based on player %. If there are 100k players in the rank, the top 1% is 1000. we need to create a lot of accounts to inflate the rank
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>>549558090
>is when you convert to a card with [Remove]
Never seen one, it's a myth I swear. What event in what chaos?
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If your chizuru doesnt have this its a brick
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>>549558329
>The deck won't work for anything ever again when the season ends.
That's longer than 1 boss. It still works for Basin too.

You are right that it probably wont work for next season though. However, if that's the thing you intended to say, you should have worded it differently. And then it becomes "why even play this game at all?" if you're bemoaning the fact that you have to refarm the same decks at least once every 9 weeks, because that's the core gameplay loop of this game now :)
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>>549558329
It will work for basin, weeklies, or any content they make that uses save data that's not season specific
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>>549557132
in case you didn't notice that's at least e2 chizoru fully invested potentials and near perfect relics
The fact that half baked tressa shits all over this is remarkable
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>>549558607
I wish it had retain or something.
Its annoying how if you kill a monster the second wave will start and then you shuffle it away.
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>>549558554
Lab 0 has a dice roll event in exterior where you can convert to Mutant Sample, I forget what the event itself is called. I don't feel like it was too uncommon. Other chaoses have them too, sorry I don't have more specifics for you, there was anon who had them all catalogued though.
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>>549558750
Yeah tressa shits on all 5*s
She takes a big dump on Mei Lin's and veronica's faces
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Is that a good card for Tressa (ignore the other two, I am building her right now)? Considering I plan to only get one more copy of her Heal Daggers and I already got rid of her basic attacks, that leaves me with 80 points to spend on her Save Data. Is it worth to burn 20 getting this one of should I save for a possible monster/neutral card on the Interior?
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>>549558607
*discards your whole hand after you beat a wave*
lmao get rekt nerd
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>>549558607
Does this stack if you dupe it? Or does the dupe not do anything?
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>>549558792
Ah that one. But the card is unuseable so how do you activate it? it's just a passive buff in your hand
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>>549559010
It stacks
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>>549558950
That a 1 mana draw 1 (2 if you're lucky). Especially in a Tressa deck where you'll probably pair with Cassius and Mika (Which where there a multiple 0 costs)
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>>549558950
The combination of rift boss + Cassius quest upgrade already draws you a shit ton of cards so if that's what you're building for, it's very possible to end up with more draws than you have cards in your deck. It depends on how much draw the rest of your team has.
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>>549522473
winning decks you get from chaos without any specific build in mind. Just whatever that was synergistic with that Chaos's teammates' abilities and the neutrals you got.
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>>549558950
I wouldn't bother
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So for the boss, do I need to do 50k damage to it in the 10 waves or whatever or just keep killing the adds?
50k seems like a lot...
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>>549558950
Incredibly niche card, you really want some deck manipulation to use it. The make 1 card permanently cost less and the draw = 1 AP/1 draw are the generic cards anyone can use well. Both can work on Tressa, otherwise just give it to anyone else.
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>>549559223
It automatically removes itself at the end of the run, you don't actually have to play it.
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>>549559271
>>549559357
I don't have Cassius, so my plan is play her with the wolf. I suppose more draws could help me fish for hid Upgrade cards.
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>>549559451
you need to do 50k in 5 turns bro..
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>>549559642
Oh then yeah I would take it.
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>>549553259
Without draw divine you will need a veronica to not fizzle out fast.
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>>549559451
have 1 character that can kill 3 adds each turn + an aoe ego skill that can kill the 3 adds
use everything else on the boss
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>>549553259
Yes. Just getting the right epiphanies is as bad as it can get.
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>>549559451
The boss has a mechanic that draws you 10 cards so you'll do more damage than in normal fights.
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>>549558873
Mei Lin would be extremely good, maybe better than Tressa, if the boss didn't have a buff specifically to damage cap her.
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>>549560010
Alas, she's a shitter
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>>549559660
>>549559919
>>549559854
O-oh...
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>>549559451
Once you make the boss run out of mobs, it fills your hand with 0 cost draw 1 cards. These cards give the boss vuln1 each (they say weaken but it's just retarded gook translation). 10 stacks of vuln is a massive boost to your damage.
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>>549559239
It doesnt stack
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This is the first encounter in the tunnel. Should I take the 2 points and get the Gold Epiphany?
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>>549540382
The dagger on skill heal upgrade is specifically good for Tressa/Cassius/Mika team. I personally don't like resetting Chaos to 'deckbuild' since there's just too much RNG in Chaos, and it's more fun to play Chaos normally. If you don't get offered that epiphany you don't have to reset.
I like left in general. Right is good if you really lack AoE. Middle if you find yourself having leftover AP often when you end your turn. It's also pretty nice with the "X is X+1" accessory.
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I suppose the "?" at the top will be that stupid "choose the fate" event, right? Should I go down if I am trying to get the copy event?
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>>549560457
depends on what you want or are building but yeah
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>>549559010
I don't think it stacks. I think it allows you to apply it to multiple enemies.
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>>549560457
1st one can be a trap since its random but I usually go for it and pray
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With how everyone and their mother scoring 800k on leadboard the next season will be more eSports, we hope you like it.
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>>549560480
Yeah one of the nice points of TCM is that even with the "wrong" epiphanies you still end up with neat synergies that are fun to play and strong in the context of the Chaos run. It's not like the team totally falls apart if you roll wrong.
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>>549560670
>everyone and their mother
Most people are scoring like 200K lil bro
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>>549560670
Didn't realize 1% of the community was considered most people. Thanks for the info!
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Which route? Either a rare, or a special and a normal. That's the inner boss at the far right.
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>>549560457
Nihilium epi can high roll, I always gamble on it.
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>>549560670
800k already gets you into diamond, that's almost no one.
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These retarded devs never fail to amaze
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I don't mind games having clear meta comps, that's just normal and unavoidable
But its bad when its absolutely overwhelming and even the top 2000 is all tressa cass with the exception of very few accounts
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>>549560991
Down if you're a little sissy baby who wants to win, up if you're a yolo chad.
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>>549560670
only autists here, like me are scoring at or above 500k, most are sitting around under 300k, and some people I know haven't even started the event yet and don't have actual comps for it
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>>549561369
Is a rare really that much harder than a late stage inner normal battle + an elite put together?
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>>549561281
>the top 2000 is all [...] with the exception of very few accounts
Legitimate question, normal games can do it, but is there a gacha leaderboard where this sort of thing doesn't happen?
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>>549561281
I mean it's mainly because there's a buff on the boss that specifically blocks Mei Lin/Luke/Chizuru from doing high damage. Devs fault really. Also some specific item interactions with Tressa/Cassius allowing them to generate a lot of extra points from the healing/shielding bonus that was meant to promote vanguards and support. It's not really a problem with the characters in the meta comp specifically.
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>>549560670
I haven't even gotten 200k. Don't give a fuck about this leaderboard shit.
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>>549561512
Do you even listen to yourself? If there was no cap it would just be mei lin instead of tressa and then what? How does this help chizuru? You are fucking braindead.
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>only unique tressa cards in the deck
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haha.....
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>>549561424
Depends. 20% it's the fatty and floating guy that's fun. 20% it's the one armed dude with another mob that's free. 20% it's the dual shadow stat sticks. 40% chance it's dogman or vagina.
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Are there any characters besides Rei that were canonically raped?
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Your mother
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where the hell do i find these assholes on blue pot
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>>549561863
Just pick attack during event nodes. You can fight almost every event node.
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>>549561863
click the attack button on their ? encounters?
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>>549561645
>If there was no cap it would just be mei lin instead of tressa and then what
It would be a mix of Mei Lin/Tressa/Chizuru, not just a wall of one of them.
Luke also functions similar to Mei Lin, although I don't really know how different the scaling ends up being.
As for how it helps Chizuru, her strongest damage potential involves hitcount stacking, but the anti meilin buff stops that.
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>>549561692
Risked the rare. How fucked am I?
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do you need to enter the tunnel to get the event deck in zero or you don't need?
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>>549562049
That's free, specially with Tressa, you won.
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>>549561795
There's no actual proof rei was raped it's all headcanon
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>>549562049
Looks like an easy mod.
Getting those guys with 2x Heavy and 1x Forceful is hell (unless you have Nyx who can give you a hand of undebuffed cards god Nyx is so fucking good)
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>>549562036
It would just me mei lin. She scales the hardest out of any character. Subhuman piece of shit thinks theres any semblance of balance. Kill yourself
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>>549562049
Someone mentioned this as a killer encounter and I just don't see how it's loseable
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>>549562190
This is so true sister, pirates are not rapists
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>>549562049
>2 ambushes from the cucked event
SAD!
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>>549519691
how much izzat do i risk losing if i don't really care about the leaderboards and sit at a comfy 200k?
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>>549562273
We only like hard cold facts here lil' cuck bro, you either bring them or you go to your corner
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>>549562273
I know pirate hands typed this post I just can't prove it yet...
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>>549561645
The thing is damage falls off after 800k. So, yes Mei Lin and Tressa would be at the top, but the best team would be the one that heals and shields the most. And I feel like the tressa team enables this more then Mei Lin and Veronica.
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>>549562426
you're not entering the future /czn/ guild
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>>549561249
whoever came up with this and the sack of shit event deserves a good beating
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>>549562095
You don't need to enter the tunnel to get the seasonal save data
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>>549562258
Apparently people on the top of the leaderboard are doing 300k/turn with Tressa + Cassius or something so there's probably competition.
We don't really know because there's an anti MeiLin buff.
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>>549562519
I'm going to make a guild anyone can join as long as they have maxed out Adelheid and other future sexy characters.
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>>549562519
what are the benefits of joining a /czn/ guild
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>>549562312
What?
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>Not even an epiphany on Oni
It's a brick isn't it?
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Invader combatant when?
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She just wants to go on adventures
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>>549563651
Stop making me feel bad for this dog
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I have ascended to the rank of oldbab
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>>549543164
might as well use the F2P team that anon was posting.
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>>549563763
Fuck no wonder our threads are so shit, we got the lowest caste of the board here.
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>>549562190
Cope
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>>549563763
Why do you keep talking about Limbus and avatarfagging with Limbus pics here
Can you not fuck off
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>>549563763(me)
Oh shit wrong thread
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>>549563883
>Can you not fuck off
What a kind anon.
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>>549563841
Send the proofz
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korean unity
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>>549562273
Maybe she was too ugly to rape
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I want someone that has lots of retain skills to power up Rin's ult, it has to be Orlea right?
What should her build look like?
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Who are we getting from the Limbus collab?
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I’m starting to think that the chain armor is just the friends we made along the way
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Is there a site where I can see what zero zone drops what equipment?
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>>549564207
you can just click the chaos world and see the equips there little bro
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>>549564276
*sister
Ftfy
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>>549563972
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>>549564628
would be kino if it was real
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I think this new super secret tech has potential, but it's way too insane of a grind to get it, so I'm giving up. Perhaps someone else would do it.
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Do you disable any of the Zero Codex upgrades?Which ones should be turned off?
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>>549564775
you just need 1 equip and 1 ep though
still better than mei lin grind hell
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>>549520303
Im already playing both bwo
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>>549564778
Once you have it maxed, turn off rare species. Note that despite having a thing that would imply you can turn things off individually, you actually can't and have to reset the tree and just not put any points into those nodes.
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>>549564276
Its sis but thank you.
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>>549520303
Even the ZZZ slurpers admit the game is dead and has nonstop powercreep. I'll take our powerbackpedaling instead.
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>>549564628
Stop it you're making me hard
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>>549564903
I wasn't talking about chains. I was testing a different thing, that score is without chains. Or a good Cassius deck for that matter, but that's a different issue.
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>>549564778
That button at the top right just toggles detailed descriptions in the menu. It doesn't actually have any change on gameplay
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>>549563651
And I will take her to see the world.
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>>549564778
you gotta max it out first then reset and then you can freely change what you want
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>>549563130
Left is fine, if only it was violence instead
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>>549564096
Honestly you're probably better off stacking retain neutral skill cards like shell-forming cell, negotiate, relentless endurance, and forbidden hunger. Orlea is okay with rin, but that team is just an excuse to use orlea moreso than being good
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>>549534505
You wouldn't want to copy those uniques anyways, so them being made unique is a buff.
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>>549564096
I think you really want Rei and someone who is a draw/AP battery (Nia or Veronica usually)
The point with Rin is to get the Move epiphany on Destruction and copy it as much as you can, then get an AP epiphany on Annihilation with the -1 cost on cards in hand epiphany so you can just go Move -> Annihilation -> Dance like 3-4 times in 1 turn with a bunch of other skills in your hand boosting dance.
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>>549566305
Everything is shit in a world where TCM exists
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>>549566761
Next boss in 2 weeks is going to have some mechanic that makes TCM not work I bet
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why tressa nakid
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Rei after being "rescued" from the pirates
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>>549566868
The next boss will have anti-Yuki mechanics instead because why the fuck not
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>>549538286
Because an extra heal skill on demand is more valuable.
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>>549566934
What the fuck is this piece of shit, it doesn't even look like Rei.
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>>549544910
You don't need a healer for the first phase.
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>>549538286
>2 cost 1 heal = 3 daggers and 3 cassius quest cards
if you're using nyx or other partner instead of the two 3 star healer you're actually bricking your score
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>>549567172
Not enough izzat for good gens
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>>549567172
She's not popular enough to get a high quality lora so you're going to have to accept temu Reislop
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>>549566975
I would imagine the next boss will be a Yuki shill boss because the boss is her wife
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>>549566934
Make a better one.
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>>549567359
>t. Jeet trying to preserve his izzat
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Oh yeah, sure I'm accepting this dogshit slop, here's my acceptance: [ - ]
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>>549567320
>even the partner meta for rift is two 3 stars
what went so right?
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>>549535940
>>549566305
Selena's cards are so shit that dupping Sniper's Domain would unironically not be awful (for her). MAYBE High-Power Scope 2 is better but only up until you're sufficiently saturated in marks
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>>549567384
How's this?
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>Selena's cards are so shit that...
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>>549564775
hmm what could this "secret tech" be, Shinken#486449321019? shield spam with retain shield item from chaos 5 looks like it
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I suggest not even looking at the AI trying to play this game. The auto battle deals psychological damage to the user.
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>>549559010
Shackles doesn't stack, I was testing the 2-cost version earlier
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>>549564775
>>549568118
heh
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>>549566934
>>549568050
Toddler smug does NOT work for her
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>>549568050
Saar do you want me to lend you some izzat?
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PASSION BUFFER WHEN??????
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>>549568118
Whoa there, you can't just doxx me like that. But yeah, I think with chains on Tressa you can perfect block outside of turn one with that. But getting chains in that chaos is huge ass rng because it barely has events that give guaranteed legendary. Cassius wants items from purple chaos, so it only leaves Mika, and I'd rather kill myself than refarm another Mika deck in addition to Tressa and Cassius.
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Xxxmas Chizuru to apologise for the weaker than a free story 4 star abomination that we got when?
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The things I have to do just to increase the chances of a shadow reload copy lel
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The devs don't play the game bro isn't it obvious. There's no other explanation on why the 4 piece set are garbage when you can just use 2 piece set for all characters
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>>549569521
This is the most "devs don't play their own game" game I've ever played.
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>>549568952
Isn't chains available in like 3 of the chaos?
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>>549569821
Yeah, but it’s a rare drop from the "get a random rare–legendary" thing. You can’t get it from a fixed event or from the shop.
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>>549569979
Oh, no wonder why I've never seen it.
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>>549569821
Blue pot, twin shadows, and that fifth chaos I don't remember the name of. But only blue pot has a lot of events that give random yellow gear, so it sucks to farm it in others. Considering you also need specific reload and vital attack epis, it's nearly impossible to farm it anywhere else.
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>>549569294
Even Mei Lin is weaker than TCM, it's not a fair comparison.
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>>549569979
For real…? That’s fucking dogshit…
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>30+ days until something new
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>>549570324
we're done
we beat the game
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>>549570324
we get a new rift boss in like 2 weeks don't we?
sure new chaos and gamemode is mid jan I guess
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>>549570324
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>>549571024
Isn't that just the dog, it will be even easier than vagina face if it doesn't eat your entire hand
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>got sticker
>beat 9/9 distortion bosses
what the fuck you retards told me my account was bricked
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>>549570324
Bro?
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>>549571159
never ever listen to the doomschizos here
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>>549571239
u ok bwo?
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>don't have Owen set for the calamity
>he suggest a policy
Is this a bug or am I going insane>
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>>549571352
other characters can just do that. its fine
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>>549571165
Yeah bro, I'm so excited to do the 9/9 boss in 5-10 minutes and never again!
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Now this is an interesting Tressa on the leaderboard.
Chains of obsession, which doesn't drop in city of mist.
And unexploded plasma bomber, that only drops in city of mist.
I wonder what happened there. Surely there's no cheating going on on the leaderboards in this game, right?
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bros I took vacation, what's an easy and relatively fast way to clear out the event shop
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>>549571239
got any more leaks?
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>>549571698
Damn she's fucking trash </3
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>still can't swap to CN designs
Guys...
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Should i just retreat before i fk up this nugget deck? this is after 1st boss unfortunately didn't get a copy, this is my 1st veronica run. She still has 3 epis to trigger.
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Gayron should be deleted from the game. Adding characters from previously developed titles is the most uninspired, low effort fruit and should remain in the realm of MiHomo games.
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>>549572589
Good, CNsored designs look like total shit.
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Is this better than Dopamine Injector on someone who has a fair number of fetch methods?
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>>549571698
>partnered
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>>549571239
daughter
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>>549573008
Newfag here just did justice planet first time and got some weapon with 15% more attack, I’ve seen a lot of accessories and stuff give damage increase so wouldn’t adding attack help balance out the math formula? That’s how it usually works in other games I’ve played but is that not the case here?
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>>549571239
looks like owen

>>549572865
That's probably worth retreating for
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>>549573008
this one is bait. dopamine is better
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>>549520303
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AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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seriously what unifies the designs in this game
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>>549573681
I hate cuck capes, is this the chinese version?
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>>549557740
You must be gullible as fuck if you think theyre not gonna kneecap tress/cass in form of direct or indirect nerfs in the future. Chizuru will be the top tier void dps.
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>>549574035
My dick
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>>549572773
....partner, right....
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thanks smilegay
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>The dog boss is up
Time for some animal abuse
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>>549573681
temu flan
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>>549574173
She needs a hug.
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>chaos/zero IS the endgame content, not save data hunting and farming! don't be such a tryhard
how do you respond without sounding mad...
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>>549574093
You must be gullible as fuck if you think they're going to let a st*ndard banner character ever be good. Oni Chizuru from the future premium banner (using a new type of roll currency, not the ones you got from free gibs) will be the top tier void dps, base Chizuru will stay trash.
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>>549574326
No...
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>>549574506
[-]
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>>549574506
>death to all corpo dicksuckers
>play a real roguelike, retard
>neck yourself
>why would you post something so retarded
idk, just shrug and let them let the game strangle itself
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>>549574506
just go play a real roguelike retard; neck yourself. if you don't like using 8 hours of your time to farm for a deck and get nothing, you should uninstall.
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what killed the game? should they even bother with the rewrite? feels like everybody dropped it not even two months in
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Yawn
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dogo ded
now back to the mines
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the content...
it's gone...
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>>549575212
>what killed the game?

>live service "seasons"
>gacha
>arfiactslop
>devs are against the players having fun
A game simply cannot be all of these things together.
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>>549575369
FUCK YOU SMILEGATE FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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now beat him honestly, for your ancestors
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>>549575531
I didn't use TCM
Does that count?
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>>549575212
>what killed the game?
stella sora-tier pull economy
bad deckbuilding RNG
fucked up meta
expensive cash shop
mediocre banner girls
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I just got e6 Amir, I was thinking about going the aoe dps route, is that deck hard to farm?
Also, Amir, Khalipe, ??? (I've got Veronica, but maybe Mirabelle or Mika would work better)
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Crab >>> Wolf > Mutant
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>>549575621
I hate a looooot of teamcomps
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>>549575212
game isnt dead but there's nothing to talk about
>should they even bother with the rewrite
people keep saying the rewrite will fix things, but given the state of everything so far, they never had it in them in the first place
>the players go from zero to one
Shit keeps getting repeated like it means something, but what was that actually going to look like? How was it going to play out? Why would this be compelling from chapter to chapter? Could it have been? Maybe, but these devs didn't have the chutzpah for it
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Beryl after saving her from Blue Pot.
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>>549575212
i don't think the game is dead (yet), but a lot of factors contribute it being a massive slog

>9 week seasons in a fucking gacha game
>nerfed lab0 even further
>hilariously bad control for deckbuilding on top of shit RNG
>memory fragments

it's looking pretty grim when all platforms are spouting the same complaints.
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>What killed the game
Devs cared when someone was calling the game a cuckgame. Now that has mostly blown over they won't say shit.
A rough launch can be forgiven with some TLC, but they clearly don't seem to have any more urgency left in them.
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>>549576397
reply to yourself next time so I can hide all your shitposts in one go thanks
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2 more weeks
just you wait
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But enough about Epic 7
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>>549572887
>mihoyo invented crossover
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>>549575026
>>549575481
>>549575687
>>549576001
>>549576315

all one stinky ass jeet btw
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>>549573008
It's 5% worse.
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HOLY SHIT I FUCKING DID IT
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Those who complain about Owen already drop the game or never touch the game to begin with and the dev choose to focus on rewrite instead of game balance
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>>549573336
Yeah, but you should already have attack% from your partner.
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>>549576710
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Try Morimens! It's CZN but the characters want ryona!
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>>549577195
*vomits* *shits* *sharts*
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tressa e6 is a brick wtf
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>>549576873
NYOOOOO I'M GONNA GET KICKED FROM GOLD
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>>549577595
we're all bricked until the cassius rateup
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>>549577195
it looks and plays like garbage
no thanks
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>can copy a card only once
>can't copy a copy
There I fixed your game lazy devs.
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>>549576873
Good job bwo!
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>>549577391
Youre only enforcing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRd4pDfrRAU
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>549576493
meds, now
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>>549577595
I think her E4 is always on by accident. I don't have it but her Ego applies agony anyways.
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>>549577838
just the usual dogshit devs not checking card text
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>>549576036
>Chaos-ed
Traditionally one might say Chaos'd
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wtf this sweet dreams boss didn't do shit. the lower action timer actually made it easier.
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>>549577838
No, her E4 makes the initial Agony stacks go from 2 -> 4. The devs forgot to add the Agony part (2month old game btw) in the fucking Ego card so all it says is "Create 2 Shadow Dagger".
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>>549575531
The boss is dishonest because he just hits you for 3 mil if you can't do 10 attacks a turn so I have no issue using Tressa
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>>549577195
Sorry anon, i'm heterosexual.
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Any recommendations for a Vanguard? I don't have Meiling, and my Beryl keeps getting cucked by the stupid damage limiter mechanic
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>>549575531
i used rin orlea rei for all three 9/9s and for 500k so my conscience is clear.
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>>549578609
What's ur characters?
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>>549578609
what chars u have?
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>>549578714
Everyone besides Meiling, Khalipe, and Orlea
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>>549576984
Kinda wondering why did you post some vt stuff...
It's all just one guy?
Was it April joke implementation, we need it on vg permanently.
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>>549578796
Here's the team I used
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Why is it always these 3 epis together? This shit has to be weighted, considering it's a gook game.
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>>549577793
Would rather hear the 20 year old dude who blasted his head off with a shotgun as the liquid was pouring like a spilled bottle ngl
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>>549576984
Not every opinion you dislike is one person, and at least I'm not a jeet.
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I'm here to kill chaos
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kaosu~
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Content doko?
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>>549579560
For me is this one, I'm doing 2 chaos runs an hour ago and this batch keep showing up.
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>>549579560
Most chosen epipi will have reduced chance to appear
In a gook live service game, this isn't exactly unheard of, so it might be the case.
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alt tab and post the chaos run you're doing right now
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>>549579987
Thank you devs I really wanted these generic epiphanies of 2 morale/fortitude on every single card.
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>>549579560
wsg twin
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>>549580094
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>>549576704
Genshin invented video games, chuddie.
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>>549578816
Stupid people should not be allowed on the internet
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>>549580094
daily humiliation ritual
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>>549575212
>rewrite
just look at the type of shit we're getting for unigram, and all the flirtatious type shit in the latest story. This game is gonna become an ML game and I can't tell if it's worse now or gonna be worse in the future. For some reason, we just can't get a good story without retarded ML or hsrslop
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>>549580094
My lab run just finished.
Yuki with almost all of the ideal epipi and neutrals.
>0 copy
Wallahi I'm done with this saytan game
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>>549580418
all good games have romance and ML
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>>549580025
I believe it after what I've seen from Maplestory
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Here's your new content bros, see you in 2026
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>>549580094
I'm autoing mei lin mats
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>>549579560
It's not the only thing with weighed rng. Item drops are constantly getting adjusted, like it's nearly impossible to get that armor for Tressa now even though before the leaderboards you would see it every second run. Most "good" epiphanies have lower rates, especially the divine ones. Since it's very easy for the devs to track the popularity of specific decks, they always change the rates to make "perfect" decks almost impossible to get. It's like the d5 bug - if you didn't make it in time, you're forever fucked.
The Tressa build you see in top10 leaderboard, for example, was discovered in CN discord in the first couple days of the event. They intentionally didn't go for high scores to get the decks ready, and now you'll never get those decks because the game will literally either not give you the item, or give you the wrong epiphany/no copy event when you do get the item.
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>>549579560
>>549579987
>>549580243
assuming you stipl want to continue the chaos run for the sake of it, what is the second best ephi to take?
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>>549580795
The repeat AoE is pretty nice, just expensive.
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>>549573414
>>549576819
I ended up going with Chimeranite because I felt like the condition being easier to fulfill was more important than the extra 5%. I did end up skipping the unique armor though...
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>>549580418
We can just go back to the original "Monster of the week" trope or in this case "Chaos of the month".
In the original story SS nightmare is basically a scooby doo van.
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>>549580795
2 cost AoE
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>>549580094
Just pulled this out, wish I had been able to copy Oni Hunt but triple Tsukuyomi is a good consolation. Basic attack build with Rei support is fun.
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Do I have to grind up each individual simulation run to the tier I want and then start farming, or can I select a difficulty like lab 0? Is difficulty 8 still the best tier?
Ive been grinding lab 0 since it came out as it was cheaper than the zero simulation.
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Please use me, Captain
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SELENA IS #1
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>>549581017
Nah once you reach level 10 you can use any of them at level 10, but you miss out on the crystal rewards for the climb.
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>>549581229
NICE
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>>549580726
Chains of Obsession is only from event rare-legendary choices so I've read (never tested myself). So it's even more RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of
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>"Ugh, folks, our metrics show Selena is just fine"
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>>549580530
This is the problem with you retards. You all want the perfect decks with little to no effort. I bet you'd complain about not hitting the jackpot at a casino in merely an hour.
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>>549580726
I think this is just schizoing, I played blue pot non stop before the boss and still almost never saw it, same goes for most exclusive items. Weaker items that are fun to have like the box that delays the final boss, watcher shield or the shield on crit item are also equally rare even if way weaker.
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>>549581374
Nah, it was dropping form the elites and boss rewards back on release. I used to pretty much only run blue pot in codex on the first weeks since my main dps was Mei Lin, and I saw it constantly. They might have removed it from all the drops except the events now, since they want to gatekeep the leaderboards so that chinks and VIPs can stay on top.
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>>549581469
have you ever been able to smell a photo?
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>>549581229
This is 2 convert erase start + mutant erase + 1 epipi card never appear
An actual impossible run
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>>549581693
I’ve done a ton of Blue Pot since launch and that shit never dropped once.
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>>549581693
Oh that's actually mad ridiculous.
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>>549580418
So true sister CZN should've copy AK, Morimens and R1999 to be more pro shipping.
Omg sister I can't wait for Owen and Renoa dating arc
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>>549581693
I do blue pot a lot and almost never saw any of the other legendary gear. This is just cope.
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>>549581527
Every other chaos have at least 1 copy event, you get 2 if you're lucky + 2random from bosses, why the fuck the lab have 0 guaranteed copy event?
Also if you try to kill the third boss in the lab you will cuck yourself out of copy event because the elevator event override it. Genius mastermind.
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Renoa is very good!
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3 weeks between content is too long. Make it two weeks like every other gacha
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I just hope that leaderboard release will make people spend gorillion of dollars so I could laugh at ZZZ and Floppa Sora next month too
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>>549582335
>>549582335
>>549582335
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>>549580919
>he didn't pick the copy event
Bricked
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>>549582789
Haru was already at 150 so there was no value in copying
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>>549577595
It's useful if there's multiple enemies.
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I’m a newbie, on,y just now did my roster have someone hit level 50. Do I need to bother with this 500k stuff? Seems hard to reach.

Also I saw people say don’t level the zero system’s elite pop ups but if I do that I don’t know how much chaos orbs I need to push farther, how am I supposed to play this? I don’t know if the decks I got serve me well enough for now.
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