gaming snacks edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous Thread>>549467147
>>549543556lying cocksucker
Being Bocchiposter's bf so I can suck his cock when he gets too tired of devving for the day
30 games. December 20th. Be there.https://youtu.be/YJ7rKPPNCxc?si=zBHECx_kCb_jOeFn
if you have arma 3 installed please checkout my mod and post feedback, either here or on the pagehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3569474876
>>549547061I remember in PT that from the second or third loop Lisa's model is constantly behind you and you'll never even notice unless you catch a glimpse of her shadowGives me chills thinking about it
>>549546850orcposting and pedoshit all in one opthis general really has gotten worse
>>549547408>orcpostingwhere?
Hey J*sh you're not a big deal bud just relax mkay? You will never be a big deal here mkay? Let's have a good day now.
>>549547056Ah yes, an expo that uses someone else's copyrighted material for their characters. Just the type of thing I want to associate my game with.
>>549547757i stopped posting the modlink here because i thought it was multiple people reviewbombing me, but it hasn't changed over the last month even with me posting it intermittently, but anyway, ratings fucked anyway, anything higher than 5% negative ratings means 4 stars out of 5, you can probably guess what the stars are gonna be so fuck it, also i'm not trying to be a celebrity or anything, these troons just keep lying about me
IT'S UP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T59IXruGJc
The truth is, the mods don't care if you samefag and spam. I use my real name and paid for the 4chan pass. You don't even need to switch IPs, they don't ban anyone in this thread no many reports there are.
>>549548121what posts exactly are you reporting
>>549548187That's against the rules, you know which ones.
>>549548069this looks like angela anaconda
Hello anons, I've been working on a JRPG/eroge game. I have a question and I wonder if anyone went through something similar.I can handle the coding fine but it's obviously the art who's my biggest bottleneck. The dream would be to hire artists do the assets for the project. I was thinking about going monk mode for a year or two, saving as much as possible and then look for artists. I'm studying art at the same time on the side but I highly doubt I would be able to make CGs good enough for the genre by myself.Do you guys feel like this is reasonable plan? Anyone who went through something similar?
>>549548276i don't
>>549547854Glad to hear the interest! We'll have our summer show details soon
>>549548069That looks fun. I got to the point where I added NPCs into my game, and was just controlling them around in the console too, wondering if I could make a game out of it. I guess the answer was yes.
>>549547056lol tranny shill your youtube channel elsewhere or buy an AD>689 subscribers
>>549548446Just use AI, you can use the money to hire artists for your next porn game. It's porn, the quality is second to the content.
We run this place.
>>549547056I'll submit my game to your expo if you submit a paddle and ball game to my Jam.
>>549546850Wagie Run update. I implemented the new UI and it's animation for the outro/end panel
>>549548786I love you
>>549546953Lol Joshua. You're so fucking dumb. That's the same guy who makes the AI voice acting bait posts. "You doxxed me" is a part of his collection of bait reposts. Sometimes people confuse the two of you because you're both obnoxious faggots, and I'm glad you're eating at each other.
>>549548637>not even 200 subscribers>n-not even 500 subscribers>n-n-n-not even 1,000 subscribersmeltie
>>549549003Leech.
>>549548983>>549548983>Lol Joshua. You're so fucking dumb.>You fell for a bait post that replied to you implying you tried to dox someonek
>>549548637I run consistent ads. You'll see the next batch This weekend. Why don't you stop whining the entire time? I don't think you could go one thread without whinng about my show
>>549549151>>549548983Shut up, Cris.
>>549549253>>549549151is me
>>549549253Kill yourself, Ryan.
Dave, you're the worst dev in the history of /agdg/.
>>549548810Why don't you and I talk off-board. You know how to reach me.
>>549549460I'm fully transparent in my dealings. All deals are made in the open in public.
Why the fuck is everyone using everyone's real name? Or are those people is just 1 faggot samefagging?
>>549549595You're the worst dev here, Juan, shut up.
>>549549595josh here, the site i was using to post (regular drunk posting, music links ect) and they changed my post replying to a gamedev irl house into threats to kill children and that i had children locked in my basement, so i posted my face replying to that post so my door does not get kicked in
>>549549542You don't even have your trip on. Yeah okay
I'm Jürgen
>>549549908That's not "my" trip. It's "our" trip.
>>549550031The Mayor of 4chan is an elected position. The trip changes hands every November.
>>549549879oh and also my IP and other stuff
There's a million things that I stress about every day
>>549550902I don't think about anything until it pops up in this thread.
>>549551209
https://youtu.be/Ogwst5secok?si=RuuhuuHlqaMxmQ2S&t=593
>>549551265
>>549551453>151K subscriberstroony neoginav3 could never
It is weird though, the jannies on /x/ are working at lightspeed compared to the ones on this board.
>>549549183>I run consistent ads>689 subscribers
>>549549982You sound like you fuck ugly bastards/nodevs
>>549552109last time i had sex was maybe four years ago, she cried after and destroyed my favorite cup, it was a 2 liter coffee mug
>>549551836Well yeah, when 4chan went down this year they doxxed all the jannies in /x/ and some of the schizos who were getting harassed took it too far taking out their revenge on them.
>>549552565
>>549551797lol
>>549553301Good luck proving that
Mom just yelled at me because she wanted me to pick up the pizza and give a 5 dollar tip but tipping on carry out goes against everything I stand for and then she said I don't stand for much :(I work on my game all day but she must think I don't do shit
can your indie game reach success if it's carried by characters and worldbuilding even if the game itself is nothing new or spectacularit's the only cope I have left
>>549553736You're both right.
>>549553886Eh, I'll take it
>>549553802Keep your world building and story secret. Just give them a tiny window into it, leave them with more questions than answers. PRIMARILY MAKE THE GAME FUN TO PLAY.
>>549553802If a fan theory sounds better than your own, that's because your were going with that the whole time.
>>549553802Yes, but no one cares about your gay headcanon. How many books have you written and published? Zero? Why the fuck do you do think you'll be able to do something better than others that you've never even tried to do before?
>>549554243That's what I said, but I told him how to at least reuse parts of it elsewhere without boring everyone.
>>549546850I don't support Israel.Should I avoid using Unity?
Godot brothers... they used some 1-click tools like gdsdecomp and keydot to extract my scripts from the demo build and now they're sending me mocking messages and calling my code "lolcow-tier"Had I known Godot was this easy to reverse back into readable I would've picked Unity just to protect my feelings :/
>>549554612>brothersBad bait. Try again.
>>549554612Fuck em, some great games are held together by nightmare spaghetti codeThe end product is what matters
>>549554612you can literally throw cruelty squad into godot 3.5 and get everything, godot is open in all aspects
>>549553802you mean games like yume nikki and undertale or mario bros or FFIV?
>>549552448That bad huh?
>>549554612open source engine that creates games with open source code, fitting no?
I worked on my pong templates last night and a few small bug fixes on Donald. More Donald today, then I need to set up my brothers PC so he can bug report and test for me. I'm logging his hours in game, and deducting $15 an hour from what he owes me.
>>549555131He'd do it for free though, he's already trying to get the high score, and called me a "cheater" at my own game when I showed him what the optimal score pattern is based on the current scoring logic.
>>549548446I am what you are trying to do, but two years later.I made money and have been developing my own game for two years (i have money for other year).My biggest piece of advice is to make the game as simple as possible.In my case, I made the mistake of assuming that player statistics, different bullets, different enemies, creating a drag-and-drop system, a store, saving money, etc. were “basic” things for my game.It's been two years, and I think it's going to be a complete failure.I'm continuing because I hope to recover something, but I don't have high expectations.And no, I have no idea how to make the art look good.At least I've stopped feeling that my game has a remarkable visual appearance.>Vid related
How do you even get started on trying to make music? Music theory is arcane and all the software is expensive and confusing. What software do you use? FL, tracker software, garageband?
>>549555131>I'm logging his hours in game, and deducting $15 an hour from what he owes me.if i was your brother i'd fleece the fuck outta you
>>549556070suno.com
>>549556070music theory is 99% shit you don't know.Just learn how chords sound next to each other in the circle of fifths, and learn how intervals and modes sound.Then learn basic EDM sound types like what is the bass, the drum kit, the lead, the SFX, the ambient and pad and pluck.And then learn that you need to put 4 voices, 1 drum kit, 1 ambient / pad, 1 main lead, 1 counter lead, 1 chord, 1 pluck.And then learn song structures, like what is an intro, what is a coda, what is a verse, bridge and chorus and solo.The rest is just copy a lot the songs you like using some free MIDI.And then compose a lot.
Why are lolifans and lolihaters enemies?Why can't they get along?
>>549556121He's 80 IQ and drives Amazon flex, I've hired him as my first employee for every business I've ran. He's the perfect employee if you know his limitations. This is the first time I'm not playing with someone else's money though.
>>549556070Just make something that sounds good to you. Just pirate FL and some synths that has the sound you want and you're good to go.
>>549553802Yeah, if it looks pretty and has low difficulty. see ICO. gameplay is just running, jumping, basic puzzles and dragging an npc around.
>>549556684you're kind of a cunt if you don't pay him above average
>>549554742Just for you, a redo:bocchisistas~ the heckin' magic titty skittles just arrived in the mail :3, my wittle subby wubby legs are all trembley...!!!heeeeey c: BTW,my godot gaym like basically um. um they like opened it and now they have my code and they say it's funny and that i'm funny >o< oofis they bein valid?? uguu ;_;>>549556070Pirated FL studio. Then essentially just downloaded a retarded amount of instruments and began by trying to recreate (by ear) some ancient game tracks, then did small spins on those, and ultimately a couple of bad original tracks. Ended up making 5 decent tracks for my demo (no one complained about their inclusion, at least). Didn't spend a single second learning the fundamentals/theory.
>>549556543Literally all you need is a slip of paper to go above the keys. These charts look more complex than they need, but it's just the same finger positions moving up and down the keyboard. I saw someone demonstrate it on a Youtube short, I should have saved it.
>>549557026>Pirated FL studio. Then essentially just downloaded a retarded amount of instruments and began by trying to recreate (by ear) some ancient game tracks, then did small spins on those, and ultimately a couple of bad original tracks.>Ended up making 5 decent tracks for my demo (no one complained about their inclusion, at least). Didn't spend a single second learning the fundamentals/theory.Yeah, we know exactly what it is going to sound like.
>>549557206>pianolmao
>>549557319I've played bass for 20 years, I compose the song in my head, it's faster for me to map all the instruments on a keyboard. I just use my PC keyboard.
just created my first levels music, obviously ill need to retouch it so the replay is not the song over and over, it will build and then keep replaying the high tempo best parthttps://files.catbox.moe/z3kztd.mp3
>>549557297Hey at least my full game has a drag-n-drop that accepts .mp3, .flac, .opus etc to replace the individual tracks with some shitty optional ambient/combat blending.Just like put your own music into the game.
>>549554612But unity is just as easy. I decompile unity games all the time.
I came up with the bass line and melody part of some of my songs in the shower. Got out, wrote them down, and moved on with my day. Just like programming, everything is easier when you know the basics.
>>549557661That is an acceptable compromise. I'm doing the same thing with tracker files (.xm, .mod, etc) in my demo because I'm not using any of my music.
I love how the tranny spammer's only retort to v3 is the sub count. He legitimately has no other arguments kek
using AI is like being female and posting in the doipass subreddit
I feel bad for bike bear dev, but there's also a lesson to be learned. don't reveal your failures if there are progress goblins around that will sap your energies for it.Maybe he's still devving in a much better place now.
>>549557206I'll be honest.Music seems to be like this super alchemy shit, but for 99% of music composition you only need to memorize C F G as majors and then d a e b as minors.
>>549558423If you want memorable music, you need to know how to string a melody between those chords.
>>549557608A daring choice for a wedding cake baking sim.
>>549557608It's good. Nice build ups.>>549558852>you ruined his wedding cake>and now he's after you...
>>549558213If you don't focus your entire skillset around aislop there's no reason it won't help you in some workflow.my own examples: seeking direction for ways to code a system, being stuck because my code is slightly wrong.Can I figure it out if I try for another hour or two? sure. but aislop can do it instantly.
liking metal as a musiclet indie dev is hell because no DAW recreates chainsaw guitar well.there's no way my rythmlet autist ass is learning music theory, finding a boss-hm2, all the other shit, a guitar, and actually playing it well. could make another whole 2 games in the time that'd take to sound even decent.addendum: i don't even understand how so many indie games got guys like Andrew Hushult for their metal tracks. without even contacting him for pricing i'm assuming it's like $15K+. where the fuck do indies magic that money from?
>>549548825m*bile games aren't games
>watching marnix stream>couple devs have some pretty neat concepts and they mention they've only been prototyping for a couple weeks>marnix: It NeEds goOd UI aNd tHe aSseTs LoOk BaDamazing that people pay for this type of feedback
>>549557608Sounds like katana zero/hotline miami. I like that.My feedback is, in build up parts like 2:23, it's kinda boring. I don't know how to describe it. The build up just isn't interesting, maybe it doesn't have enough going on. There's many songs that make long build ups interesting and entertaining to listen to, I think inherently a long build up should be a bit ambient? I'm a musiclet though so don't take my word for it.
What's the best music game? No lame rhythm games like g**t*r h*r*
i cant code good because CO2 levels are too high in my house because its 15 degrees outside and i cant open any windows and my CO2 alarm is actually beeping because its too high at 900 PPM. there's literally nothing i can do (that i know of)i will sit here and get brain damage from CO2 and be unable to code
>>54956363915 degrees celsius isn't bad. just wear a jacket.
>>549559690>I have to have the music of my favorite artistmental illness. But at least as a prog/fusion enthusiast I know the style doesn't appeal to 95% of the people so I never even consider it. metal is a bit broader.
>progress>should have added that console debug window sooner
>>549563394gitaroo man
>be american movie>the rich trust fund nepobaby is actually le good guy and won over the street smart hard working girlWill Americans even like my game if my writing is complex, intelligent, and inspired by greek philosophy and christian mystic thought?For example I watched the movie crazy rich asians and I could predict is easily even from just the title to be honest, it's exactly like every love story about nepobabies. Dull and uninteresting the truth is princess bride mastered the romance genre so well it's impossible to name a better romance movie than princess bride. It was a perfect that didn't sacrifice itself for appeal and yet appealed to more people than movies that do.And best of all it wasn't about nepobabies and actually the nepobabies were the bad guys just like real life. Perhaps I should put my project aside and try and make a work like princess bride.Americans are stupid, but they probably like creme brulee. It has sugar fat, and I know it's not deep fried butter but it has class.
>>549563760fahrenheit. equivalent to -10 celsius.
>>549556070>What [music] software do you use?Furnace Tracker.
>LLMs were largely trained on industry standard open source C code>Hey!>I was trained on industry standard open source C code too!>AI make C programmers go brrrrrrrrrt
>>549567043I'm going to go need to get my computers out of storage soon or just buy a better Mac.
>>>/v/727972097
Why nobody ever told me that OpenGL was literally shit you learn from using godot and blender?It's literally shit that already have a function like gl + scale / translate / rotate.Or shit like gl + something light + fpv something.Shit's not as dificult as I used to remember, wtf.
>>549568079Raylib is basically just a shim over OpenGL with all your example code built in. You can learn OpenGL while making making a paddle and ball game with me over Christmas.
>>549568306I've written my own shim that fits between my library and raylib, so I can eventually replace it with the OpenGL code directly. A little bit of performance loss now, for twice the boost when it comes time to optimize.
>>549568440After I finish my paddle and ball game, for the Mayor of 4chan's 12 Days of Christmas Paddle and Ball Jam©, most my games are going to be built entirely in the browser with very little compiling.
I don't know how to make fun gameswhat even is fun?
Every time I make a new demo, I use it to teach myself a new technology or sometimes even go over some basic principles I have missed, being in the repetitive world of corporate tech for so long.
>>549568746It's basically number going higher, but about some shit like coins or territory gained, and defeating enemies/players with some combat, with some risky mechanic that save me from almost losing epically, and random loot rewards.
Good kitty.
>>549566789Turn on a heater if you have one.
>Good kitty.
>>549568746feedback and goals
>>549563639>its too high at 900 PPMRookie numbers
>>549568746sex
Which engine would best allow me to replicate the visuals of VTMB?Excluding Source of course because it sucks.
>>549573739I think Unity would be a good bet. Godot could do most of it, but there's a higher probability you'd run into an arbitrary engine limitation when trying to emulate some particular graphical feature (the "Juan's way or the highway" phenomenon)
>>549573739source engine 2
>>549574429>Juan's way or the highwaylel
>>549575490true
why was i cursed with only liking online pvp games? the networking is always so complicated no matter the genre.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2412430/UntitledShooterGame/?curator_clanid=4777282What went wrong?
>>549578393>What went wrong?Nothing, everything is going according to plan
>>549578393your abortion
>>549578393Reminds me of this but soulless
cuff status?
Lots of good progress today, my minigame is almost complete
>>549581490BUSTED NIGGA
why did gaben do this?
>>549583108>Objectively awful game>More reviews than 98% of recent /agdg/ games
>finally get a hold of a second computer to try out multiplayer>bugs>simple fix to allow joining in multiplayer, only fixed client side since I didn't want to update it on the irritating to use laptop>lobby appearing twice unlike before>client spawned falling outside the desired play area>client cannot move at all, only shoot weapon>client jitters along the ground>host somehow fell through the ground>host aiming weapon not visible on client sideI-I think I might be done wth multiplayer but still need to accept it internally. I don't want a 3x increase to development time :(
Solo devs should make solo gamesSimple as
i made my player too fast and now i can't design levels because everything has to accommodate zoom zoom retarded mobility
>>549584059Good thing I am neither a solo dev nor do I make solo games. I have many frens, and I make games that I can play with my frens. That is why I'm GMI.
>Just making slop, it'll always wo-ACK
>>549584424They were hit with the Punjabi Midas touch just like Halo. Cod is done. Expect headlines like this after every game.
>>549584424Battlefield 6 basically shit the bed after having a free win.Neither franchise is being looked at favorably atm.
>>549583470multiplayer is just really hard unless you're using unreal or something equivalent that has a networking solution built in desu.For what it's worth though most of those things you listed seem fixable with some work.
>>549585856I always recommend Unreal to anyone trying to do simple bipedal focused multiplayer games. Their built in character controller is good at network prediction and all that.I think where Unreal falls apart is when you need shit like networked physics or vehicles. It basically requires a custom solution because their built in one does fuck all for prediction atm.I think their new object agnostic network solution is in experimental atm so maybe it'll get good in the next year or two.
>>549568079>It's literally shit that already have a function like gl + scale / translate / rotate.That was the case back in the fixed function days. Actually wrangling opengl involves much more than that.
>>549586331But I want to use opengl 2.1, not whatever gay shit the "TECHBRO" comunity want to use.
>>549586542You should still use the gay shit (3.3) because you must. You don't really have a choice. It's the most supported version.
>>549586728>You shouldaccording to whom?Your college profesor from mumbay?
>start a new project>feel alive againIt's not even project hopping because I finished my last project.Imagine project hopping but guilt-free
>>549587746nice. I look forward to this.
>>549585856>>549586167I'm using Unity, game is 2D and physic's based. I'm just exhausted with multiplayer and all the fine tuning it needs. I'm sure most of the gameplay bugs can be resolved. But having to run back and forth using a laptop just to debug is putting me off. It's not fast and something is broken so I'm going to have to try fixing it tomorrow.I've heard Roblox is very easy for multiplayer and Unreal as you mentioned but idk on the scale of ease. As for jumping to Unreal, not at this point, I'm in need of a big break in either gamedev or elsewhere in my life. I just cannot afford to switch engines now. Might scope down (probably a flop without multiplayer), might project hop, idk right now. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>549558298>I feel bad for bike bear devi got dog piled on as well. I would say it sucked but having spent most of my life making things that nobody gave any shit about the negativity was strangely comforting. Either way he was a cool dev and i miss him.>Maybe he's still devvinghe is https://store.steampowered.com/app/2546030/Two_Putt/It's not exciting stuff but i'm happy that he hasn't completely given up
Our Cris?
If you were going to make a VTMB style game, would you focus on a third or first person perspective?I know the OG game has both but I feel like supporting both made the combat suffer in the original.
>>549589710our peach
>>549588985>I just cannot afford to switch engines now.Sir this is a hobby board what do you mean you can't "afford" to switch engines?
>>549589985No it isn't, also you don't have a game
>>549590045Yes it is and yes I do
>>549589904first. unless you are really good at animating
>>549590127Proof?
>>549590196Proof that it's a hobby? EasyAround 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.About 700 games in the week around your release.AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025HahahahahaH O B B YOBBY
watching VTMB vids has me thinking about hiring voice actors.
>>549583108>>549583270It's annoying that this shitter latched onto this topic and was obsessed with it from the start because it is actually fascinating what happened, and tragic really. Cuffbust was probably the most tragic indie game thing I can recall this year. Such a huge example of a dev fizzling out on a game halfway through development and really just hating it by the end and wanting to be done with it asap and then they send it out into the woods to die like an unwanted child hansel and gretel style and it does just that, dies the very first night and then we literally don't hear from gavin about it afterwards.Truly disturbing. Cuffbust had potential it could have been good, but it's creator despised it by the end and threw it off a cliff.
Am I insane in thinking that AI is the perfect use for graffiti?You can pump out insane amounts of it to fill your scene and it doesn't need to be great because graffiti isn't either
>>549547018
>>549583108The funniest thing to me is seeing some retard here not know which devs are which and confusing this dev for the underspace developer
>>549589985Learning a new engine is time consuming.
>>549591402If you know one engine, it maybe takes a week or two to learn another.
>>549591353In that poster's defense he IS the stupidest man alive
