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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8889 - The end of Kit Edition

==NEWS==
>Tangle amd Whisper in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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>>549561007
>previous zone
OP, come on man.
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Archie was OOC. Archie was always OOC. If the freedom fighters magically appeared in the 90s and 2000s games none of their character dynamics with Sonic would function. The comics are OOC. Sonic Team did not know or care what teh comics were doing for years and immediately started dismantling them when they started to oversee them.
These aren't opinions. There are objective differences between how the character is portrayed in the comics and games. Even IDW, which is also OOC, is less destructive to the game characters.
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HFOFA supremacy
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>>549561252
nah, ur wrong
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Jpfags have been unhinged lately.
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Shadria!
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sonegggggggggggg
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>>549561007
>>549561128
Previous Zone - >>549524471
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Tails!
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>i like sonally, i think amy sucks and that sonamyfags are schizophrenic. also I like archie sonic.
>every jpfag and sonamyfag:
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drought ends in 2 days bros
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>>549515794
I'm here! I don't really have a name though.

>>549516795
I have some socials but I rarely use them. Did you want them?
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>>549561609
How come?
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>>549561590
>Come to Dragon Ball General
>where fans already see the english dub as a rape
>say "i prefer dragon ball evolution, it turns goku into a cool cocky teenager who wants to stop the bad guy and get the girl and has relatable problems"
>be surprised that people who actually like goku find this disrespectful
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Ackshually its King Koopa and Princess Toadstool
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>>549561392
>lately
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>>549561590
Hi archieschizo
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https://vocaroo.com/1b1OP7Goc6Te
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>>549561812
You literally don't or haven't visited /dbs/ in years. Anons there don't give a fuck if you like the english dub or even Evolution. They only get pissed if you dare to say that Daima is good or better than the other DB shows.
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Just saw Roger Craig suddenly appearing and casually BTFO'ing a Sonic Twitter thread talking shit about him and then he counters with facts and logic
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>comic does OOC shit
*intense rage ensues*
>game does OOC shit
*crickets, sometimes even defense of OOC shit*

What causes this mental illness?
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>>549562156
You're right actually I don't know the culture there but I think the comparison makes for a funny joke. I haven't seen Daima, what's their problem with it?
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>>549562182
Yep, that's my FUARKING hero
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>>549562285
Having a low iq and being terminally online does that to autists.
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>>549562182
Roger seems like a cool dude
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>>549562156
/dbs/ is unironic schizophrenia
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>>549562285
Fuck off
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>>549562290
Because Daima not written well and it's pretty much ripping off GT but without any of the interesting elements that show had.
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>>549561007
In the Cell vore community, there's a guy who spams and begs for Surge Cell vore and has fanfic ideas for a Cell type mobian. He refuses to share them because he thinks Ian Flynn/other people will steal his ideas despite Ian saying he won't add a Cell character.
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How do we solve the Tails' cowardice? Should Sonic beat Tails until he stops being scared?
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eggnic...
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>>549562527
That's kind of sad considering what Daima represents as Toriyama's final work.
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>>549562285
Where is the ooc shit? The games are consistent
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>>549562525
The games are not perfect
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>>549562548
Why do you know so much about the "Cell vore community"
>>549562710
amazing movie
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everyone keeps saying the games keep changing sonic's character but i have never seen it. What character trait of Sonic's have appeared and disappeared across games?
The bad jokes in the meta era? That started in Sonic Battle.
Sonic "being okay" in Forces? Since when was that not a thing? Sonic can't be traumatized. That's not some new thing. Even in SA2 he was just getting ready for his own escape when Amy showed up. He was not bitter about Shadow. You got that from Drummond's tone of voice.
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>>549562620
Nah, he needs to take a vacation. Maybe to some tropical island in the middle of nowhere.
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>>549563015
This is hella gay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7pfsb5-GbE
>Movienic dialogue
>Prime Shadow personality
Use the games as a resource or nothing at all please
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Remember when Sonic got tricked by an evil moon?
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>>549562708
>Sonic
Being an asshole in colors, being depressed in lost world, being unfazed after 6 months of imprisonment in forces
>Tails
Being cowardly to the point of being useless in every game after 06, literally calling himself inconsistent in frontiers
>Knuckles
Being Boom-level retarded in forces
>Amy
Being on Xanax in frontiers

Just to name a few
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>>549562182
And unsurprisingly, this shit was started by that same group of black sonic fans that always loves to cause problems in the community
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>>549563056
gay or straight, sonegg is kino
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>>549563178
That isn't the dumbest thing Sonic does in Froniters
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>>549563197
Sonic is neither things you said in Colors and LW those are exaggerations. And the 6 months thing is more of a presentation problem.
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The next main Sonic game should have Sonic, Shadow, Knuckles, Tails, Amy, Rouge, and Omega playable from the start. Oh, and I guess Blaze and Silver as dlc or something
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>>549563197
Tails wasn't a coward in Lost World.
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>>549562525
You might as well be posting a sign that says “I AM A RETARDED SHILL”
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>>549563326
He doesn't finger Sage.
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>>549563502
In the japanese version of Frontiers, Sage repeatedly makes it clear that she is an Eggman creation, Sonic still can't figure out which Doctor she keeps mentioning. Sage makes no attempt to conceal Eggman's identity and Sonic cannot guess who it is until Eggman actually shows up.
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Even entertaining the notion that Sonic Team has misunderstood their own characters before, they still objectively understand the characters more than you or any other Western creative on the whole. You've probably messed up hundreds of times.
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>>549563452
No, but was very confrontational and whiny, also OOC
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>>549563436
So...you just want Sonic Heroes again.
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>>549563436
>I want Sonic 06!
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>>549563452
instead he was an insecure little bitch who thought that Sonic might replace him with FUCKING EGGMAN
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>>549563469
I like the games as they are. None of the inconsistencies in the games are as glaring as the inconsistencies in the comics.

I don't understand why comic fans argue with this point. Archie fans did not like it when Sega of Japan suddenly decided that Archie Sonic has to act like a diminutive version of Game Sonic. They are clearly different enough that when one is forced to act like the other it alters the entire course of the story, so why is it a surprise that people like me who like Game Sonic do not like Archie Sonic?
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>>549563602
Oh wow, really? Sonic really *is* a dope.
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>>549563602
Is Sonic retarded?
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>>549563357
Yes he is. He tries to downplay Tails’ contributions in colors and and then runs back to being extremely moody and sad when he loses Tails in lost world. You’re not gonna brush those off
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>>549563203
And of course the frogfaggot tries to turn it into a race thing. Really living to a stereotype or just being plain basic.
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>>549561007
Voice requests and discussion posts go here. How is everyone doing?
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>>549563814
Yes
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>>549563667
hot
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>>549563814
In Japanese, yes.
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Knuxouge is more canon than Shadouge
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>>549563814
He’s a knucklehead
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>>549563748
I don’t give a fuck about Archie. I just want you to admit you’re being a hypocrite when you use “OOC” as a reason to hate the comics while completely ignoring or outright denying that OOC shit happens in the games too. No, the degree of magnitude does not matter. If you’re saying it’s bad because it’s OOC, then everything OOC is bad too.
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>>549563924
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>Sonic is retarded
>Knuckles is retarded
>Amy...exists I guess
Tails is singlehandedly carrying the group's IQ isn't he?
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>>549563869
Oh hey, are you feeling any better?
(Not in spot where I can listen anything currently)
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>>549564260
They made him battle retarded
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How do I make youtube stop recommending me AI slop covers of SA2s OST?
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>>549564389
That's because everyone else has the battle smarts
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>>549564260
>"Help me, Sonic!"
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>>549564279
I got free cough medicine today and I sound less like shit. I should be a 100% in a day or two. Although I was given the scoup about earlier threads from someone I know on the inside. Apparently I won the wrath of Sonamy fans or something. You try to be cordial and offer open discussion and create OC for the thread and still someone has a problem with it. Not like I'm not used to it but jeez I was not expecting that backlash.
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>>549564405
trump won
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>>549564430
So should Tails
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>>549563869
I'll just compile all the windshit arguments towards you in one post so that you do not get attacked en masse while attempting to respond piecemeal

>Yuji Naka stated that it is out of character for Sonic to get married, have kids, therefore game Sonic wouldn't be able to maintain the same relationship with Sally or Amy that exists in the comics
>Sonic's other creator said that Sonic is simply too immature for romance, but if he was, his first choice would be Amy
>Evan Stanley (IDW writer) corroborated that this is still Sonic Team's opinion
>Windnic's personality is pre-2000s, not 2010s
>Sonic Team did not endorse Sonally or Freedom Fighter Sonic. They ignored the Comic's choices until their attention was forced towards the comic by Penders
>Preboot Archie Sonic's relationship with Sally was actually retconned before the Super Genesis Wave, not after. This was Ian's motivation for turning Sally into a lesbian.
>Amy's most consistent character trait from 1992 to 2025 is attacking women who flirt with Sonic, yet she is tolerating Sonally in Archie. Amy fans consider this out of character for this reason
>2000s Sonic refuses to compromise under any circumstances, but Archie Sonic's relationship with Sally is built on the idea of Sonic maturing and "slowing down for her". Something game Sonic is strictly incapable of
>Sonic did not actually flirt with Rouge in Crossworlds, in the Japanese version he insinuates that she is ugly.
>Blade of Courage's Sonic acts exactly how windfags have been describing him for years

I think I collected all of it.
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>>549564491
Just because he's smart doesn't mean he's not a pussy
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>549563869
Please reiterate why Tails in Forces is OOC
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>>549564580
>windshit
*sonic.
your comic shit isn't canon.
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>>549562548
>Cell vore community
that's like saying there's a sandy cheeks cock vore community
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>>549563869
Do you have any feelings on the IDW characters themselves? Could be good or bad (we know there's more bad things to say about them outside of their core concepts but whatever)
I'd like to hear how you'd try a Kit seething at Tails' existance
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>>549564673
>ban evading
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>>549564668
Good point.
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>>549564745
I know you hate Archie but I think I represented your own arguments fine
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>>549563636
>>549563667
But he wasn't a coward and Lost World was probably the most resourceful depiction of Tails out of any game. He saved Sonic's World.

The Japanese version seems to undersell Tails capabilities in this scene seemingly suggesting that he only tried, but was not able to fix a computer with a toothpick.
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>>549564668
He’s not a pussy because he’s not a pussy
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>>549564673
People hated X Amy. She was a problematic and widely disliked character. The current day Amy is a correction from excesses.
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Why did Tails decide to never use the mech function he added to the plane after SA2?
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>>549564493
Well, to be honest some fabs can be bit loud, passionate and even intense about their interests, but more extreme shippers make me cringe, and I ship sonamy. That being said, you have different tastes than me and I respect your opinion about it. That's all I'm saying about shipping.
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>>549563869
Thoughts on sonangle?
>>549564960
X Amy is cute and silly and jokes about her raping Sonic are FUNNY, you're just a pussy
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Shadria all over your thread
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>>549564939
It is the best iteration of Tails in the meta era for sure, but the mistrust of Sonic and the whining certainly keep it from being perfect
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>>549564939
He didn't have to be a bitch about it
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>>549564982
He used it in Frontiers.
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>>549564982
Discovered Fly Formation in Sonic Heroes with Sonic & Knux and never looked back.
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>>549564728
>>549563869
Forces Tails isn't OOC. Tails in SA2 never thought Sonic was dead even if he saw the capsule explode. In both 06 and SA2 Sonic is saved before Tails actually has a moment to actualize the fact that Sonic is dead.
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>>549564982
Because Sonic Team doesn’t want him to be cool because they hate him and they hate you
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So when will Tails finally accept the superiority of steel over the weakness of the flesh and turn himself into a cyborg?
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>>549564960
>The current day Amy is a correction from excesses.
And it's funny how nobody likes modern Amy for how boring and bland she is.
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>>549565107
>She's not naked
Lame.
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>>549565291
same shit but different reasons
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>>549565227
You keep going back to this like it matters. It doesn’t. Tails should not be cowering like that under ANY circumstance. And to make it worse, the opening scene of Forces had him cowering next to civilians against FUCKING EGGBOTS. You’re only embarrasssing yourself at this point
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>SONIC TEAM WAS WRONG ONCE I HATE THEM THAT'S WHY THE COMICS THAT WERE WRONG 3252654 TIMES ARE BETTER
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I think it's funny when cartoons fight like this.
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>>549565109
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>>549565443
>Sonic
>Cartoon
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How many times do we have this same conversation about Tails' characterization each week?
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>>549565504
Sonic is better as a cartoon than as a video game. You need to realize this
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>>549533276
Fine taste.
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If it's not like the Adventure games, it's not Sonic to me.
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why does Sonic slap his ass at Eggman
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>>549565563
We'll have it forever because Ian Flynn's response was to make it canon he's inconsistent and therefore admitting his character is a mess while doing nothing to change said mess
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>>549565443
Sonic has never been this intimate with other mobians except maybe Blaze.
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>>549565563
Until I stop seeing people say Forces was in character
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>>549565484
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>>549565667
This is still hilarious to me. It makes it clear Ian doesn't like this character because neither Amy or Knuckles got shit like that.
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>>549565393
>Tails should not be cowering like that under ANY circumstance
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>>549565504
Sorry. Videogame character!
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>>549565687
true, he's mostly intimate with human men
>>549565390
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>>549565815
Okay? That’s bad too
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Douge
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>>549565629
I grew up loving SA1 and 2. Heroes was a big disappointment though. What did you think of it?
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>>549565443
haha imagine if Sonic raped Surge hahaha
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>>549565890
Forces Tails was in-character
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>>549565121
Negative energy from the Lost Hex messes with people's minds
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The thing that bothers me about Lesbian Sally isn't the fact that she's lesbian but the fact that the source material version of Sally is so straight that it affects the plot of multiple episodes. Also, Romance was not banned from reboot Archie. Sonic being romantic was banned. They were still allowed to give Knuckles a love interest. They were still allowed to show characters being romantically interested in each other. They were just not allowed to do that to SONIC. It seems very childish of Ian, when told he cannot use a ship, to just make one of the characters gay.
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Maybe, maybe, characters can and will be changed by the creatives whenever they want.
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>>549566053
Again, Unleashed = out of character. Just because there’s several examples doesn’t excuse them
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>>549566020
I think it's a massive downgrade from the Adventure games. But I liked the team concept and how it had characters interact.
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>>549565443
>you should at least TRY to *inaudible*
>huh? what do you think you're doing
>hmph, somethin buggin you?
>*CRASH*
>*rock vocals*
>THIS TIME I'LL GET EM GOOD
>grunting
>french music
>Pft Slow down? Yeah right! If you can't keep up with me... go home!
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>549565629
>06 is more of a Sonic game than picrel.
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>>549563436
I think the all-or-nothing approach when desiring more than one playable character sets off the bad faith crowd a bit too much, but the happy medium here is including key characters that reinforce or challenge the respective theme of the adventure first and foremost. It doesn't need to be an Avengers level meetup each time.

However, even then Sonic's cast has a rather uphill battle in terms of gameplay because most would prefer you simply reskin Sonic than play to the character's unique skill sets and background.
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>>549566191
If it’s not for growth reasons, it’s character assassination. Universally reviled concept except in this franchise for some reason
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>>549563869
Amadeus Prower:
>"Villains and evil doers have been dying all over the world in short period time under mysterious circumstances so I'm requesting the aid of the best consulting detective in the world."
Nicky Parlouzer (Sonic but nerdy):
>"Mr Prower, your son is the killer."
Amadeus:
>"No, he's not!"
Antoine:
>"Sacre Bleu, I 'ave been following zhis renardeu all night, there's non possible whey he's arrgh!"
Nicky:
>"Mr Power a guy tailing your son died, he's definitely the killer."
Amadeus:
>"No, he's not!"
Bunnie
>"HowdAck!"
Nicky:
>"The widow of the guy that tailed your son has disappeared, your son is without a doubt the killer."
Amadeus:
>"No, he's not!"
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>>549566218
but it's japanese...
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>>549566218
Was this out of character? Note this was post SA2, just beat Eggman by himself and helped saved the World Tails.
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>>549566218
Holy cope. The same writer that wrote sa2 wrote him cowering, it's ic
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>>549565280
When he's in a timeline where Sonic doesn't exist and he has to endure endless bullying for years.
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Tails was always a little bitch. SA1 is literally just him fucking lying. Knuckles and Sonic fought Chaos 4. Sonic fought Gamma. Sonic fought Knuckles.
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>>549566370
>Adventure
>"BUT 06!"
Get that brainrot fixed.
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>>549563436
Frontiers gave narrative focus to Tails Knuckles and Amy, even if done poorly. Frontiers 2 should have them AND ONLY THEM be playable beside Sonic
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>>549566391
>Modern Amy and Sonic
>Classic Eggman
Weird choices by the artist
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Selfinserting Tailspedos are just mad Tails is a loser like they are and not a big dicked chad
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>>549566430
jej
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>>549566218
>Ummm actually OOC is when game writing I don't like
At this point just admit you're all Adventurefags
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>>549566673
Sonic the Hustler / Street Prostitute
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>>549566676
>headcanon
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>>549564580
TEN MINUTES OF RANTINGS
https://voca.ro/13SG0XCNAt99
>>549564728
>>549565227
https://voca.ro/1bkVqWbJEqiy
>>549564769
https://voca.ro/18ecycOAo87q
>>549565080
https://voca.ro/18EhZjLg00XZ
>>549566471
https://voca.ro/1aen50xQCAEb
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wind guys can you tell me what happens to manic and sonia's characters if they have windnic applied to them?
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>>549566673
>NO ONE BUT A JAPANESE PERSON COULD PULL OFF
NO ONE BUT A JAPANESE PERSON COULD PULL OFF
>NO ONE BUT A JAPANESE PERSON COULD PULL OFF
NO ONE BUT A JAPANESE PERSON COULD PULL OFF
>NO ONE BUT A JAPANESE PERSON COULD PULL OFF
NO ONE BUT A JAPANESE PERSON COULD PULL OFF
>NO ONE BUT A JAPANESE PERSON COULD PULL OFF

FUCK
WESTIES
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>>549566020
Beginning of the end
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>>549566370
>Caring about classic shit in the 2020s
lol, lmao even.
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>>549566885
Based. I won't be listening to all of it desu.
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>>549566689
Is 06 not closer to the Adventure formula in comparison to the MD games? I guess I could have used Sonic Unleashed(World Adventure).
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>>549566885
I'm a JP purist and I think you sound completely reasonable with your "other Sonic versions are different and that doesn't ruin the games" take.
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>>549566797
Adventure came first, and was also the first time any of the characters could speak. It was also to this day the game that gave the most focus to Tails as a character. Betraying it is considered OOC
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we should all post vocaroos this thread it would be fun
i want to hear you guys say sonic shit in your voice
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>>549566673
How long has he been voicing Sonic so far?
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>>549566892
I think that would mean that Sonia does not develop post this "Selfish mememememe" personality but this, like Sonic, is spun into more of a positive thing rather than something she has to work on. Perhaps Sonia's vanity actually ends up helping and encouraging other people in the long run.
In real life, doing whatever you want and being free like the wind isn't a viable life choice unless you're insanely rich. So just apply the same principle.
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>>549564960
You are a nigger and you should kill yourself.
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>>549567068
Whisper with her eyes opened looks so cursed
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>>549566885
It's funny to me that you seemingly mistook Evan Stanley's name for "Stanley". Evan is a woman and her name is Evan Stanley.
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I'm going to go fap to Tailsmary, see ya guys later.
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>>549566005
Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge, he'll only ever love Maria.

Rouge was literally designed for Knuckles, she's been reduced to a nothing character being shackled to Shadow constantly.
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>>549567303
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>>549561007
Holy ugly
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The adventure-era was short-lived
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>>549567541
Because 06 killed it
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I need practice on humans.
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>>549562156
>visiting /dbs/ at all
Time for you to go back instead of spamming JPJPJP so much schizo, oh wait, you don't have one
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>>549567573
kek and cute!
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>>549566892
>>549567258
It says "she is generally good-natured and helps those that are in need." So that would be the main positive aspect of her personality. She's a prissy and high-maintenanced bitch, but she isn't a bad person.
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>>549566885
I wonder if Ken Penders inadvertently broke the balance in Sega of Japan's favor with his antics and the age of JP purism we live in is technically his fault for kicking the western side's legs from beneath them and making the JP side have to clean it up.
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>>549567541
I wonder why?
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06 is as much an adventure game as Unleashed is
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>>549562694
It's just a watered down Sand Land, it's nothing impressive.
It's already bad enough people aren turning around saying it wasn't thrilling/almost Super-tier mediocre
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>>549567573
Good work Anon. Keep it up.
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Did youtubers slandering the series affect sales at all?
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>>549566885
>Retcon
Flashback panels of Sonic and Sally kissing were mandated to be changed to them just standing next to each other. They're probably talking about that
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>>549567530
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>>549567458
Why is a lady called Evan that always confused me
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>>549567974
06=SA1->more character, multiple storylines
Unleashed=SA2->streamlined, more segregation between playstyles
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>>549566885
Romance was allowed in the reboot, Sonic alone was banned from it. IDW is where romance got banned in totality for everyone except Amy
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>>549566885
THANK YOU. Tails has always been right there in the action next to Sonic. He even admits in SA1 that he’s scared, but he still fights anyway. That’s who he is, not the bitchmade OOC Forces version
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>>549567564
06 didn't kill it. Black Knight poor sales and millennial complaints killed it.
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If we get TGA news it will be a nothingburger or Kishimotoslop.
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>>549568407
Same reason there are ladies called Brandon
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>>549568407
Evan is an androgynous name.
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>>549568303
Maybe, but they definitely impact Sonic Team’s creative decisions
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>>549563645
>NO YOU CAN'T DO X, BAD GAME DID THAT FIRST!
Yeah and the next Star Fox shouldn't have different playable characters or a strategy game map again because a certain DS game flopped
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>>549566885
I'd rather not listen to the blandest personality since stale toast.
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>>549567889
https://voca.ro/1aMX0LwPNWov
>>549568320
https://voca.ro/17M7ikDIdZjW
>>549568723
Then don't? Nobody is forcing you to click the vocaroo link.
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>>549566885
reasonable takes
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>>549568560
>millennial complaints
about 06
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>>549568595
You'll get a vague short trailer with no gameplay and a title drop.
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>>549568407
Apparently is the Welsh spelling of John, which means it's kinda connected to the name Jane.
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>>549567747
>>549568259
Thanks! I was able to finish it!
I'm going to go back to bed after vomiting.
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>>549567889
I blame Ian Flynn and IDW. Archie Sonic was always sequestered in its own universe, the comic shit never contaminated the games. The same can’t be said of IDW Sonic.
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>>549568787
No one's making you read my replies either.
You leave your trash in the middle of the thread, I can comment on it.
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>>549564757
NTA but Cell was the pioneer of vore slop in the late 90s/00s, the latter is just reddit reactionary shit #7483737.
One contributed to a niche but steadfast following, the other is temporary as soon as zoomers find something else horrifying to repost and accidentally groom to their peers.
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>>549568303
Sonic team decided they wanted to make bad games all on their own.
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>>549568787
Yeah the redraw panel was pre-sgw. Archie was told Sonic can't be in a relationship some time around the time Sally got roboticized. It was one of the Generations tie in issues. I also don't remember it but it was Sonamyfag gloating material for a while. Consider that Sonamyfags hate Sally more than the KKK hates MLK.
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>>549567228
Since Adventure 1
>>549566885
>Does he hate Tails because of brainwashing
His hatred for Tails is all naturally born from his experiences in #50 to #56.
The hypnotizing sessions were just being loyal to Surge, even if he didn't completely like her. His attitude certainly changed if you compare his early interactions to his later ones in how he talks to Surge.
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>>549567573
kek
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>>549568787
Oh my god, talk faster. Jesus Christ.
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>>549564960
>The current day Amy is cockfree, wombsnipped forture teller who can't talkback at trash talkers.
FTFY
The movie needs to come out already so we can see how horrible Amy's future is going to be
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>>549568710
I mean a lot of fans want Sonic 06, I'm just pointing out what you're asking for.

Would you say the character's you listed are the core cast of Modern Sonic?
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The casting director for Sonic Adventure had to hide the voice actors from Yuji Naka because he mandated that all Sonic VAs look like what the character would sound like as a human.

Don't EVER try and convince me this was an intelligent man.
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>>549568901
Millennials hated the entire Adventure era for not being like the classic games.
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>>549569472
Source?
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>>549566902
Then why don't the Japanese like/care about him?
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>>549569107
Congrats you learned how replies work. You want a cookie and a slap on the ass for your amazing work champ?
>>549569224
https://voca.ro/1gdyZa5ZvTJ6
>>549569290
https://voca.ro/1iH3uaeviCtl
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>>549569472
Incredibly based way of casting. "hey you seem like Sonic"
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>>549569472
>because he mandated that all Sonic VAs look like what the character would sound like as a human.
I still have no idea what that even means. Did he expect Sonic's VA to wear blue and have his hair dyed blue and styled into spikes?
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>>549568478
Will we ever go past the number 3?
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>>549569472
That was Lani Minella with regards to the English Adventure cast, right? I wonder if Naka was as crazy with the Japanese cast.
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>>549568964
Feel better soon!
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You can hate Naka all you want, but he had a vision. Which is something Sonic doesn't have anymore.
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I might be autistic
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>>549570118
/sthg/ anon....
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>>549569565
But some people still liked the stories and characters, until 06 fucked those up too and the hate became too much for Sonic Team to ignore
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>>549561007
At least do something a little more original
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>>549570118
welcome to sthg
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>>549570218
That 0% form is fuckin' gross!
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>>549570218
...would
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>>549569472
Sounds like someone needs to do better
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>>549569598
Here you go, she said it herself
>>549568787
you might have fun with this
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>>549570218
Pretty solid, but their 100% form looks too much like Surge in my opinion
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>>549569472
We all know he's a hack at this point.
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>>549568787
I moreso meant that Ken Penders antics are the reason why the western side has extremely rigid rules. Even the movies were given a list of "NEVER DO THIS" with Shadow. Sure it keeps things consistent but it doesn't actually keep things in character it just stifles creativity.
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>>549570635
Isn't Fowler one of the biggest Shadowfags to exist?
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>>549570479
i think that's the point, she resembles whoever she sucks from
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>>549570476
>Okay Timmy, put on the fox ears and snout
>But Miss-
>Mr. Naka will literally kill us if you don't.
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>>549570826
topkek
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>>549568787
I'm so fucking retarded. I'm just now realizing those weird flashback segments from the Mecha Sally arc where Green Eyed Classic Sonic meets Sally all over again are the past changing to fit the mandates

that's actually so gross I hate Sega
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Is Iizuka as autistic as Naka when it comes to Sonic because holy shit I would dread working under such autists
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>>549570086
Naka was like Ken Penders. They both had very ambitious aims for the Sonic series and didn't like compromising on that vision. The major difference between them is that Naka knows he doesn't own Sonic anymore.
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>>549570198
>But some people still liked the stories and characters
Those "some people" were the minority when compared to the large crowd of millennials that were dissatisfied with the series direction since SA1. 06 didn't start shit besides finally making Sega notice that millennials wanted classic Sonic back. Thus why the 2010s was mostly just genesis era nostalgia bait.
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>>549570218
did Surge and Kit become chao
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Yuji Naka is like if we all had to worship Penders vision just because he's fucking Japanese.
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>>549571096
He probably is but with Shadow
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Manic is cute
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Why don't you make your own Sonic ripoff? With blackjack and hookers? Sonic started as one of Mario and now look at it
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>>549571357
How do you know I am not making my own Sonic spinoff that literally has both blackjack and hookers.
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>>549570218
https://voca.ro/1hk1rLe0GWJh
>>549570635
https://voca.ro/18hVkN9Z2N4P
>>549570912
https://voca.ro/1cdlHiWYTbf6
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Was Naka justified for this?

I can't believe this is still up on his Twitter
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>>549569694
FUCK THE SUPER GENESIS WAVE
I ACTUALLY HATE THIS
THIS IS LITERALLY AN ANTI-ART PRACTICE

DESTROYING A STORY IN THE NAME OF BRAND RECOGNITION IS BAD

WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING THIS SORT OF THING
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>>549571513
Who got erased?
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>>549571245
lanolin...
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>>549571635
Spite.
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>>549571740
wave and tangle should be flat
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>>549571475
>>549570912
THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS?
what is the point of doing this if the super genesis wave is going to happen anyways fuck fuck fuck
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>>549571740
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Imagine having such control issues over your brand that instead of rebooting you start sub-rebooting minor things before the boot is even engaged. I'm convinced Sega of Japan are autistic.
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>>549571357
https://voca.ro/19hyHRSDvoER
>>549571635
>>549571993
ttps://voca.ro/1obxFHnGhnAg
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>>549571635
To be fair, it wasn't art/ It was official merchandise that went off the rails. They were doing things they had no business doing.
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>>549572182
maybe you shouldn't have completely wrecked sonic's character and made him a crying cuckold
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>>549571746
Oshima
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Imagine if one day Nintendo looked at the Pokemon Anime and is like "Excuse me why the FUCK is Red Talking? What??? YOU TURNED HIS NAME TO ASH? FUCK YOU. GET MANDATED NOW"
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>>549572391
Then >>549571513 No he was not, that rude, derpy, Jap fuck.
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>>549572536
https://voca.ro/1gAyxPKXuJ4P
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>>549572536
>Pokemon Anime
All I know about the Jap version is that Pikachu's "Pi Pi Pi" is his take on "Satoshi", which is also quite cute.
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>>549572536
The difference is Nintendo is that autistic from the start, so it never happens without their permission in the first place.
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>>549572182
>>549571993
>>549572186

Please explain
So let me get this straight, some twenty issues before the actual reboot, the preboot universe retcons itself for the sole purpose of decanonizing Sonic and Sally's relationship? Am I following that.
I'm going to be clear here, I don't like Archie. I hate Archienic. I assume this kind of move was made to appeal to a person like me who finds the idea of Sonic in a relationship off-putting. But this is actually the worst possible way to go about it. I don't want to watch a comic lobotomize itself.
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"I'm sorry tom, i don't love you anymore because i'm the wind now"
~movienic in ten years when sega gets their panties in a twist
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>>549571513
What happened?
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>>549572536
Red and Ash are completely different characters. Are you retarded?
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>causes irreparable damage and mandates to all future western sonic media
>isn't even a good game
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>>549573216
>Sonic was talking to a gravestone
>No flowers were left.
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>>549573216
>>549573465
Tom was originally going to die but writers changed it so Shadow could stay sympathetic
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>>549572632
lmao
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>>549573436
Chronicles is actually pretty decent. The issue is that the soundtrack is pretty bad and the game ends on a cliffhanger that will never be resolved.
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>>549572632
see >>549570890
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Okay. Even I can admit that retconning things during the preboot is a step too far.
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>>549572923
https://voca.ro/1bJqpbgnjzTP
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>>549573641
.............................lame. They should've gone hard or gone home.
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>>549573694
How the fuck is Tails' bounty the same as Sonic's?
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>>549573694
>Sonic and Tails competing who can commit more crimes in the shortest possible time
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>>549571993
>1993
Ironic that you get the year satam released.

Anyways, yes. This was the Genesis Wave. Not to be convinced with the Super Genesis Wave. As you can see the issue goes out of its way to make sure you know that Sonic is not a member of the freedom fighters this time. These were the beginnings of the history of the world changing. If you don't know it's tied to the mandates it comes across as a weird confusing AU happening for no reason.
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What guys think of Outcome of Memories?
https://voca.ro/17vqaD8XLjHx
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>>549574038
He didn't dare to score higher.
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What's the meta reason Sonic doesn't do romance?
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this genesis wave bs actually ruined my whole mood and i wish i didn't know any of this
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>>549574312
https://voca.ro/1j2lj5Vkte1d
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>>549574312
Have you seen the shipping wars here? Imagine that but 10 times worse, that's how you get Penders vs Bollers.
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>>549574312
Shippers are deranged
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>>549574312
The meta reason is Sega has mandates. Actually confirming relationships is something most big IPs don't like to do.
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>>549574312
the primary audience is young boys
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I'm autistic and I don't get what makes the genesis wave different from the super genesis wave
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what if we got a saturn wave?
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>>549574462
How do think we feel? We've had to live through this and watch this happen. If you were there when it happened you had to pay for a front row seat to see your favorite comic implode into a shell of it's former self.
>>549574696
Genesis wave was the first plane Super Genesis Wave was the second tower.
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>>549574475
I don't know about this. Knuckles, Shadow, Vector Tails are all attracted to women. I guess Sonic is the focus character.
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>>549574629
Target demo needs love too.
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>>549574038
Play SA2 ever?
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I kinda hope I see this in the movies?
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>>549575050
why do you eat so much slop
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>>549574696
Genesis Wave = Past of the current universe changing

Super Genesis Wave = Total replacement of the universe.
The first genesis waves altered Archie Sonic's history multiple times over but they were really just a covert way to force mandates into the canon. The Super Genesis wave was just one big timeline reset that deleted the previous canon and all of its characters with only Sonic having vague memories that are already twisted by the previous genesis wave. I can't speak for Archie fans in general but the first Genesis Wave is arguably more insulting than the actual Super Genesis Wave since the latter is just a reboot and the first is a series of aggressive, predatory retcons.
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>>549574898
And that's what amy gives. Free affection with no strings. Sally is the same.
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>>549574312
They like to keep Sonamy fags in the what if zone
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>>549573340
>Not knowing the Balan Wonderworld saga.

It's pretty tragic actually. Just know trying to recreate NiGHTS into dreams... is a fool's errand that always ending in tears.
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>>549575242
>And that's what amy gives. Free affection with no strings.
IDW Amy attacked Sonic for standing next to Rouge
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>>549574887
https://voca.ro/12H507y9EDDL
>>549574898
https://voca.ro/1THV21M2UYqs
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>>549573436
Remember when Sega illegally worked with the British police or something to try to steal original copies of this months ago?

Sonic Chronicles is very special to the franchise.
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>>549575242
But Sonic rejects her love.
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>>549574181
>HYUCK! SEE GUYS! WE MADE IT SO SONIC ISN'T A FREEDOM FIGHTER ANYMORE
>SEE WE MADE IT SO HIS EYES WERE ALWAYS GREEN AND NOT THE EXPLANATION WE CAME UP WITH FOR IT
>SONIC AND SALLY WERE NEEEEEEEEEVER A COUPLE
>^PLEASE IGNORE THE FACT THAT THIS RETCON IS NOT GOING TO MAKE WINDFAGGOTS ACTUALLY FORGIVE THE DECADES OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND EXPLORATION THAT LEAD TO THIS POINT
>THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT RIGHT?
>OH? YOU DON'T LIKE RETCONS? YOU DON'T LIKE IT WHEN WE BEND ONE CANON'S PENIS TO RESEMBLE ANOTHER?
>WELL GUESS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN ISSUE 252
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>>549571993
>>549572923
Lmao. Is that what happened here? It was subtlety erased in the Preboot?
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I'm glad the Sonic Chronicles fangame exists
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>>549575606
He doesn't. He just doesn't "commit" (agency-suicide)

They do go on dates in the later games. But they need to meet in the middle, amy has to ease up her fantasy of settled domestic life, and sonic has to slow down a little so she can keep up. That's it.
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Why does this creature invoke such lust?
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>>549574781
You see, the Saturn in the background not only foreshadows the Sega Saturn console that was released last year; the presence of a victorious Metal Sonic in the foreground symbolizes Sonic's death as a result of the technological arms race the console marketplace had become in the mid to late 90s.

In other words, Sonic had a rough transition to 3D
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>>549575780

In the tie in issue of Sonic Generations Eggman accidentally causes Sonic to experience a timeline kurfuffle that replaces how he met the freedom fighters and erases his relationship with Sally. For the last twenty issues of the reboot, Archie Sonic's character history was retconned and any flashbacks towards his relationship with Sally were reduced to a platonic friendship. Nobody liked it. JPfags didn't like it. Archiefags DEFINITELY didn't like it. Sonamyfags pretended to like it because they're psychopaths.
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>>549575756
https://voca.ro/1ir2TlfnPcBn
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There were mandates before 2010 at least.
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>>549575916
>blonde
>brown
>smol
>cute
>quiet
>owns pets and a gun
>big, floofy tail
>teefs
>tits
What's not to love?
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>>549575951
Brilliant
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>>549575945
Sonallybro, calm down. You're both psychopaths.
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Awhile ago someone here said the only S tier autism fandoms are Sonic, Pokemon and MLP. Can any match them? Is Sonic even worse?
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I would've just had Sonic and Sally break up for good and face the backlash.
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>>549576259
I am against Ian Flynn's attempts to remove Amy's crush on Sonic for the same reasons I am against Sega fucking with Archie.
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Wasn't Sonic X-treme going to give him a girlfriend, man imagine if that game actually came out.
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>>549576367
MLP > Sonic > Pokémon
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>>549576367
The Loud House.
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>>549575796
>he will never let us see cryptid Sally
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I recall back after the first Genesis Wave happened that Sally remembered her and Sonic kissing before she sacrificed himself and turned into a robot. So it wasn't removed. Unless it was supposed to be that Sonic himself had his memories adjusted and doesn't feel anything romantic for Sally anymore. I think you guys are jumping the gun.
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>>549576686
It was the issues after she was already a robot that weren't allowed to acknowledge the kissing.
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>>549576072
She cries a lot, but to some thats another bonus
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>>549576686
The first genesis wave happens long before that. The genesis waves leading up toe the super genesis wave had increasingly retarded bullshit like Cream being Bunnie's sister
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>>549577047
Wha-
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I smell a suspicious amount of estrogen in the thread today.
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>>549576851
Yes, but that wasn't anything altered in-universe. I also remember they had Tails skirt around with calling is father his dad or something and had Shard's line about being a "real Metal Sonic" changed in a later issue when it flashed back to it.
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Why doesn’t Sally just get a human bf?
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>>549577256
and all packed into one pink hedgehog
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>>549576686
You're mistaken. The earliest print of the issue has the kiss, the continued release of the issue fixed it.
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>>549577215
That was extra material in the book that was written in text. Bunnie was Cream's COUSIN, not sister.
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>>549577336
Humans (besides eggman) weren't a thing when she first appeared in the comics
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>>549577287
>I also remember they had Tails skirt around with calling is father his da
what is the actual point of doing things like this if we, the audience, know he is tails' father? what does this actually do from a story telling perspective? i hate sega.
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>>549577494
Overlanders were
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*buys your OC food*
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>>549577570
I bet this thing looks cursed when the vtuber talks with it
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Imagine if someone told you before so much as the year 2006 that Sonic would not get into a fucking relationship. Imagine if dirty Americans did not listen to such a supreme genius and suffered the consequence.
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>>549577572
Fuck off Woefag
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>>549577803
you keep calling me that and it’s always wrong
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In character????
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>>549577572
She'll be very grateful.
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>>549577406
Sally did still remember them kissing post-Genesis Wave.
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I have an idea. Take a japanese person, or at the very least a weeb. Give them all the Freedom Fighters and the Diamond Cutters with the stipulation that they, along with the game characters cannot break character. Even if their character is contingent on Sonic being Out of Character. Have them write a story with that in mind.
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>>549578185
But anon, 'In Character' is whatever a Japanese person decides it is, remember?!
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>>549578014
I hate the mecha Sally arc. Especially the part where all of the Echidnas end up going to the twilight cage.
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>>549578349
I quite liked that bit. Fuck Penders.
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>>549578185
I’m attempting this, but I’m unsure if I’ll share it yet
it’s part of a general worldbuilding rewrite for various aspects of the franchise, doing my best to become a proper everythingfag
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>>549578371
But I like Julie Su and Lien-da. They didn't even get to say goodbye.
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jp sonic twitter posted sonic spinball
the comments is split between the freedom fighters and "FUNKY ACTION"
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>>549578489
Yeah, I suppose it was a little bit sudden and all done in that one story. But that's lawsuits for ya.
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Evan Stanley reveals that comic communication and organization is horrible.
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>>549578349
>Especially the part where all of the Echidnas end up going to the twilight cage
>The penders vault
I hate everything about this. still haven't gotten over it.
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Why don’t we get collections like this anymore?
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>>549576641
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>>549570338
That's why I dig it. And it's easy to accept it not fitting the Sonic-world animal-person style by them being a bio-android like Cell

>>549570479
I do agree. I think they should have a bit more Kit in their design, like perhaps having his tail instead of Surge's.

>>549571194
I think they're just drained and covered in saliva. Probably beats being eaten alive
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>>549578705
We literally do while they delist older ones.
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>>549578648
I haven’t even read the IDW comics and that was already clear from how it’s discussed here.
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>>549575205
>TFW picrel was the result of a Genesis Wave.
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>>549578497
>Pic rel
kino....
>>549578705
We just had a collection anonymous and it sucked.
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>>549578705
I'd guess music rights are a main issue.
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I'm guessing the echidnas all ending up in the twilight cage was an attempt to get rid of the characters they didn't have legal access too while also forcing Archie Knuckles into game Knuckles's role as "the last echidna" because otherwise it makes no sense for him toe be spared. Correct me if I'm wrong?
It sounds like the last few years of preboot were rough.
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>>549578648
For being social creatures, we humans suck at communicating.
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>>549578926
>rough.
You are correct, and they did the best they could to try and rectify it, but it still wasn't enough in the end.
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>>549578878
>Michael Jackson is cool with his music being in the sonic games
>Dies
>Suddenly his estate gets all pissy and sonic team have to cut the songs from all S3&K ports, and delist any of the old ones
There should be a 10 year max period on estates before the artists work becomes public domain. But idk, maybe that would result in people trying to harm artists or something stupid.
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>>549578926
The Echidna stuff was when the lawsuit fully impacted the comic. After that, they needed to get to the crossover and do a fullscale reboot right away.
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Sonic Coal Collection:
>Heroes
>Riders
>06
>Unleashed
>Secret Rings
>Black Knight
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>>549578926
>Sally turned into a robot
>Even if she was saved her relationship was destroyed by Sonic Team
>Bunnie loses her robot parts
>Antoine dead
>Knuckles loses all of his friends and family
>Elias deposed
>Preboot Sally's final moments are getting killed by Silver, a videogame character she has no dynamic with
>Characters like Mina, Elias, Sonic and Tails's parents all erased and forgotten. A fate worse than death.

It wasn't even funny after a while
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>>549579172
I know, it's all lame-ass legal crap. Mix that with greed and it's a bad combo. I mean, the game's already been made! It's been release and re-released already. The music is out there and known! It's on youtube and all over the place, what difference is it really going to make putting infront of a fresh audience?
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Is Live and Learn ever coming back or is that also gone forever
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>>549579420
>Bunnie loses her robot parts
She was supposed to get them back.
>Antoine dead
He was supposed to recover.
>Preboot Sally's final moments are getting killed by Silver, a videogame character she has no dynamic with
She wasn't killed, she was deactivated.
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>>549579420
Picrel I guess.
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>>549579603
Probably also gone for good. Even if Sega wins the lawsuit they won't risk ever using it again.
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>"if you want to use my sonic related stuff, you have to pay me"
>no one pays him
>still shat on and hated to this day
was it worth it?
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>>549579632
Getting turned into a lesbian is the same as dying
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>>549579816
Hey, Ian would rather have that than pair her with another guy.
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>>549579603
Next super-power scene in next movie guaranteed. Even if it's Amy. But it probably won't be her.
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They should interact more
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'ge
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>>549579801
No, no, no, hold on a minute. Get it right.
>"if you want to use my sonic related stuff, you have to pay me twice!"

Just a greedy fat fuck.
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>>549579801
For artists standing up for themselves against corporations? A necessary sacrifice. For Sonic series? No.
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>>549580204
paws
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as someone who shits on idw i'm starting to think it would be a bad idea if Sega, in an attempt to appeal to fans, became MORE restrictive on the comic.
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>>549580251
>For artists standing up for themselves against corporations
?? go pitch your own drogune to some publisher or something.
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>>549580167
I love the reactions in this image. It really encapsulates something silly and ridiculous happening.
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>>549580337
Sega should appeal to fans by making good games
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>>549580018
What would they even talk about? How much they want to suck Sonic's dick?
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>>549580337
IDW is ass regardless, so who gives a fuck?
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I'm sure Sonamyfags just started cumming their pants in 2013
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>>549580409
You know the rules.
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>>549580158
She will grow up with big AI boobs
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>>549580831
And so do I
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Who is the Bio-Broly of Sonic?
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>>549580984
We don't even have a Broly of Sonic
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>>549580379
Fuck you, this has nothing to do with Ian. Ken just exploited loophole and Archie was incompetent at archiving, but it sucks that Sonic comic had to go that way.
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>>549581261
>Delete clothes.exe
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Nicole is so cute.
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Well maybe if Archie simply wrote Sonic as the wind from day one this wouldn't be an issue.
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Why do Sonic games on SEGA consoles feel exponentially less autistic than games that came after SEGA went 3rd party?
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>>549581373
you misunderstand my intention. i mean he should have pitched his own original work and left sonic alone. if the point was "standing up for himself as an artist". he was being paid to write sonic stories for archie. why should he claim anything?
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>>549582113
I don't know what you mean by that
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>>549582113
Less talking. Less Shitdow.
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>>549582113
SA2 was very autistic
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I HATE SEGA OF JAPAN
THEY RUINED ARCHIE FOR LITERALLY NOTHING, WINDFAGS AND PURISTS STILL HATE THE ENTIRE COMIC
PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM THINK ALL CORPORATE DECISIONS ARE GOOD
IT'S A FUCKING MESS
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>Sonic 06 is about time/space deities
>wrecks sonic team
>Sonic chronicles is about time/space deities
>wrecks the whole franchise
sonic team should stop offending the divine
>but sa 1 had chaos as a "god"
the echidnas kinda revered him but chaos was not depicted in game as a god. he was one more of those giant monsters that the echidnas feared. no different that fearing lions or bears and anything large in size and is known to be hostile.
>but dark gaia
same as chaos. one more giant monster that people feared.
next time sonic team offends God by making one more of these "ummm this thing is a "god" that sonic beats with his wind" or "sonic is a "god" of something the the echidnas worshipped" in a sonic media. you know we might be going to shit again. might be for good this time.
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>>549582207
>Win11
oh gawd!
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kek Paramount twitter got hacked
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>>549582824
i can't wait for the next game about timespace deities that forces the entire franchise in a new direction for being so horrible
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>>549582954
Or maybe it didn't?
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>>549582824
What about Sonic Generations? That had a time/space deity of sorts, right?
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Why is Chaos considered a god when we're told directly he's just an overgrown chao
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>>549583114
was that thing even sentient? what the fuck is the lore behind that thing and how was Eggman controlling it? I see it no more than a time machine with a face
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>>549583280
If we think about it for longer than 10 seconds, we'll have spent more time and effort thinking about it than Sonic Team did.
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>>549583142
Big-ass scary water powers 'n shit.
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>>549582954
So they finally revealed their true colors. :^)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7pfsb5-GbE
Since when does Sonic say things like "Villain of the week"? Into the trash.
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can someone leak something already?
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>>549583679
Very nice. Lil' Amy a cute!
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>>549583718
Alright. Tangle dies next issue.
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>>549582824
So we should have Sonic fight demons instead, got it
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>>549584136
More in character than Archie
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>>549574312
Sega Sammy wants Sonic to be a static corporate mascot who lacks the ability to reciprocate love
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>>549583674
>Shadow being a GUN agent
Wasn't that literally only for 06? Why do fangames love referencing that?
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>>549584303
Archie
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>>549584303
It was only in 06 and Archie and nowhere else. It won't die. Sonic and Tails R did it too.
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>>549584523
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Shadow gesturing with his hands like a normal person is weird. I'm used to him restricting his movements to dramatic swings of the arm and clasps or fists.
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>>549584675
>>549584843
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>>549585349
DONT SHOOT SHES JUST A SILLY MONKE
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>>549584523
Hi Tangle, nice ass.
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>>549585349
How is IDW going to reconcile this with the whole Eggdad thing
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>>549585959
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>He thinks Sage isn't evil
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>>549585959
He can still be Eggdad to his creations while being a megalomanic to his enemies, the real conundrum is how to reconcile Eggman apparently being a caring father figure to Metal Sonic while simultaneously being the one who stripped Metal of his free will and ability to speak.
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>>549585959
On one hand, Evan is physically incapable of trying to redeem any villain that has a vague sympathetic bent (nor can she write a female villain - even infighting with Ian about Surge's direction). On the other hand, Belle is a self-flagellating Tumblrina who likes to bully her self-insert Belle whenever possible, so Sage might still be mean to her.

It depends on how you view Evan Stanley's priorities.
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>>549586554
*physically incapable of not trying to redeem
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>>549575529
What's funny is that all the people who blast x for being noncanon or not associated with Sonic Team get slightly BTFO by the fact that stuff like Vector's crush on vanilla came from there, in addition to there being some cut SA2 content that made it into the SA2 arc.
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Dear /sthg/ what would have happened if Merlina had isekai summoned Antoine (an actual swordsman/knight-type Bobian) instead of Sonic in SatBK?

Also if the world had been based around SatAM/Archie characters instead, who would you have gotten for these characters?
>Sir Lancelot
>Sir Gawain
>Sir Percival
>Sir Galahad
>Sir Lamorak
>The Blacksmith
>Nimue, the Lady of the Lake
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Belle's behavior in IDW genuinely disgusts me. I get what Evan is going for and I have seen characters with this concept done well but she is so unfitting. The way she just submits to everyone angry at her and even says she understands if they want to kill her. It's never built up enough. The worst things she ever does are be awkward and cumbersome to deal with. If this was a high school drama she'd fit in better but this is an action comic so the extreme "You can smash me if you want" is ridiculous.
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>>549586970
Belle is a self-insert for Evan Stanley
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>>549586554
I want to believe Barnes will coordinate with her considering he's writing a Sage miniseries concurrently, but considering he had to call Evan out on Twitter for trying to pull an Ian and subtly shift blame onto Sega for her own poor decisions, the fact she actively disregarded his advice about self-contained stories, AND IDW can't even communicate about a "To Be Continued" blurb according to >>549578648 gives me zero faith we won't have more writer infighting.
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>>549586919
I don't care about side media.
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Belle feels like the kind of character you would find in a freeuse smut story who has no self respect and lets men rape her.
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>>549578648
What story was this? The Mimic backstory one?
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Remember that Sonic X episode where Chris Thorndyke kidnaps Sonic so he can spend another day with him before he returns to his planet? Do you think Chris got in one last fuck with Sonic before he returned?
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>>549587760
what the hell man
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>>549587331
>Evan has been making so many mistakes that she finally decide to adapt Ian's signature move of blaming Sega.
>Barnes immediately shuts it down..
Lol, Poor Evan. The Lunar arc has been a failure. Two bad arcs in a row by Evan Stanley.
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>>549587331
>I want to believe Barnes will coordinate with her considering he's writing a Sage miniseries concurrently
I wonder if he'll try and make Sage black again.
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>>549587962
I would love for Sage to get her black dress back. The white just doesn't look villainous and makes her look odd among Eggman's minions. Eggman, Orbot, Cubot, and Metal Sonic all have a bit of black in their designs
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>>549587949
I mean Chris is clearly attracted to Sonic
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>>549587331
>>549587959
You should read her whole blogpost:
https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/801755249116430336/idw-sonic-spoilers-for-issue-82-idw-sonic-issue#notes
Highlights:
>IDW wanted shorter self contained stories in the book, Evan is trying to push for longer stories still
>Says Soleil is based on her own abusive parent which we already talked about here
>Believes that Soleil will still have problems with their parent
>Complains that Shadow was forced because of the Year of Shadow
>Tries to bend the knee to Sega saying she does not want to come off as whining about SEGA
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Is quiet
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Where should everyone vacation?nnj42n
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>>549589115
peru so that i can find maris
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I was thinking, would it be cool if tails create some kind of bioweapon like shadow, and then this one breaches containment and causes a shitton of damage around mobius? But i don't know what dynamic would be more entertaining, for example if the thing destroys to spite tails out of hatred, or is jealous of him to the point everyone else should be destroyed, or maybe the thing in question is just sadistic and enjoys chaos with no hard feeling towards his creator.
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>>549586015
I really hate the fact that it's rumored that sage may turn on eggman next game and become one of the good guys.

Ian flynn strikes again!
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>>549590470
That’s a cool concept. Reminds me of Adventure 2 and when Sonic games used dark and serious instead of infantile and safe edgy
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>>549590470
So...tails creates kitsunami 2.0? Sounds cool if you ask me. Besides, for once, it's not eggman screwing up.
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>>549590583
>uh... UUUUUUUUUU IS THAT *breathes heavily* A VILLAIN?!? UUUUUUUUUUUUU I NEED TO REDEEM THAT UUUUUHU
>*has a panic attack*
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>>549590470
It'll create another situation of character development complaining because a situation like that will change the perception and trajectory of Tails pretty heavily.
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>>549590583
SoJ realized like everyone else that Sage ruins Eggman's villain cred. Anti-Eggdadders won.
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>>549590834
Anything is better than how they’ve been treating him recently
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2 more days sonic fans. And we may get a new reveal
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>WAAAAH SEGA MANDATES RUINED MY COMICS
good. they were so ooc.
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>>549561007
Absorbable
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>>549542284
Here's Doctor Julian Robotnik!
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>>549590740
Let's say tails create an artificial friend, but this turn out to be incredibly broken with serious mental instability, perhaps not too much because we don't want to get grim and the tone is still sonic.
At first i thought just dropping some alien creature made to destroy would be cool, but on second thought connecting it on one of the characters would be exciting because now it's hunted down for recontainment or kill with a lot of room for emotions.
>>549590834
I know, it also highlight tails genius in a dark corner, it would be twice as cool but i need a real good reason for tails to create artificial life. Still tails is capable of that after what i saw in the metal virus.



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