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>Small guide for players who are coming back to the game and want to queue DoN, suggestions welcome
https://rentry.co/d5guide

>Latest Nightreign patch notes
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-103

>How to host 6 players lobbies with seamless coop
https://files.catbox.moe/we1zur.png

>Nightlord resistances chart (now includes DLC)
https://files.catbox.moe/4pvan9.jpg

>Main Information Document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character Planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive Map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between
https://www.nightreignmap.com/en

>Miscellaneous Nightreign Data
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meXOw4jR1hh7YXVMeijWwSDIXnCw6Tk4hTZPq2qvyK4

>Group/Multiplayer Password
erg

Touch Bloodstain: >>549523425
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dsg won btw
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>instead of a double boss with Sif we got hyper artorias retarded hitboxes edtion
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hashire hashire, umamusume!
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will we be getting any more patches this month?
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my fellow ergies how are we doing personally feeling demoralized like we can not keep this up
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>When you get confused or trapped by the ring in Great Hollow and have to flee after leading your bros who loyally followed your pings


https://youtu.be/fuFbQ-Mewfw?si=44jdEfjlOKh5fFEU
>Sorry,Sorry, I'm sorry, I know now
>Let's just run away
>Sorry,Sorry, I'm sorry, I know now
>Let's just run away
>Peck on, peck on the ground
>Like a real grown-up bowing and behaving right
>Peck on, peck on the ground more
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>>549590101
iirc they said they were focusing on duskblood now after this so maybe not
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>>549590185
Duskbloods WON
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>>549590185
They have many projects ongoing more than Duskbloods. But yeah... ACVI DLC soon is likely actually. Steam database got updated.
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>>549590185
They also said that they're planning a post-release update to add DLC content to DoN and Everdark Balancers have been datamined.
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>>549590167
who is that?
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>>549590296
Assuming you believe anonymous posters, it is a representation of at least 80% of the posters in this thread.
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we really needed ED heolstor, he's way too much of a pushover now
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>>549590143
im slowly not getting the desire to play anymore, these tourists make me want to pull my hair out
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GG EZ baby libra
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So now that the night has reigned
What actually went wrong?
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>>549590512
I know who this is. That's my mommy
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>>549590541
DLC is way overtuned, D5 stats but you don't get Depth bonuses.
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>tried 5 times dreglord solo with scholar
>failed every single time during the first night, either because I get balancers raid before i have a decent weapon/got at a decent level or i get the bears for the night boss
i'm about to go mad help
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>>549590101
Patch maybe but content no
>>549590295
This too but likely months away at this point
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revbros… should we even try anymore? Or are we going to be cast aside like raider before us?
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>>549590528
gg. Smooth run.
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>>549590541
>What actually went wrong?
It's too hard for normies.
That's it. We had this same song and dance when SotE came out, but unlike base Elden Ring, you can't just grind or get an OP build to cheese the game.
You unironically actually have to "git gud" in Nightreign.
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>>549590678
>months
It'll be out by the end of January. They just wanna let us learn ED Balancers before making a new Q with Straghess and Harmonia [+ED]
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Bg you guys sorry for choking
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For POIs with two bosses, do they count twice for relics that buff you for clearing a POI? Like the new poison ruins that has a Curseblade boss on top and a Spider Scorpion boss at the bottom.
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>>549590901
Names?
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>>549590803
Lightning Spear and Beast Claw Rev are top tier.
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I realized I like the nightfarers and nightlords but I don’t actually like anything else about this game conceptually
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>>549590512
>>549590996
She doesn't look like this
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>go into a hidden chest room in Hollow
>one of the chests drops a legendary AND a legendary dormant orb
Holy fuck.
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>>549590996
>>549590512
Fap time
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>>549591030
I do
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>>549591014
Some of the music is really nice
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>>549591030
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>>549591032
and to be clear, it's one of the rooms that WOULD be illusory in Limveld but isn't in Hollow. But it's by/inside a ruins and has the high tier chests.
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>>549591083
It would be pretty cool if you had four arms anon but how would that work
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>>549589863
Artorias should brutally stab her to death learning how shit NR is.
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>>549591032
Yeah I think Hollow follows the rule of other Shiftings being that every corpse and drop has a slight chance of dropping a legendary. I found a purple and a gold off some random corpses by the poison ruins
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>>549590071
you can block his "grab"
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>>549590541
Not enough content thus far. All I see are Demon of Pain, Mohg, and duos of SotE field enemies as new content. People say Artorias is in, but he's not shown up once for me in the three days I've played. Also, the lack of a Patches boss is criminal.
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>>549591325
oh sorry i forgot its apparently just "some" of them. either way check everything if you're nearby it.
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GG mini libra, very nice run

the duchess ult so I would ult and interrupt his second meditation was genius...
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>>549591325
I felt like a hacker being level 3 and having morgott's and cragblade in the pocket.
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damn, it took me like 5 attempts to solo balancers with scholar but then i used unders for the remembrance and did it first try...
also whomever modeled her slow walking animation was horny as hell
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>>549590557
>I know who this is. That's my mommy
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>>549590619
one day its "this shit is too easy going back to d5"
the next is "This shit is too hard going back to d5"

MAKE UP YOUR MIND HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>549590109
>>549587986
I run twinblades just to fish for Eleanora's and I also get multiple bleeds. I also love grabbing some slop with frost or poison on it and getting some free statuses to open a fight. And if I'm mainhanding the weapon (like a deaths poker or eleanora's/rob/any bleed weapon) yeah I also get multiple status' in a Nightlord fight. The difference really isn't that big. It's just that the 2 arcane guys come prestacked with all sorts of things to help them be status sloppers.
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>>549591518
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>>549590619
Definitely not D5. Maybe D1 or D2 I guess. I live plenty of raw hits as wylder. Or rather I'll proc successive/charge negation, get hit, proc another, and keep doing it before I have to sip an estus. You can't get away with that in D5
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>dreglord on rot woods
>nobody is bothering to find rot bolusses off corpses
>moaning in thread that it takes away the immunity part of the blessing
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>>549591717
Sounds like something I would just forget to do. Anyway I'm surprised at how many people don't check corpses. They don't always drop golds but I find a good amount of purples. If it's a bundle of corpses theres usually one free purple in there.
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>>549591706
>>549590619
I think them offering certain depths effects in normie mode on passives AND relics is acknowledging that the new content is closer to Depths than not.
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>>549590171
no one asked druggie cuck
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Mohg is too hard for a Night 2 boss.
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>>549592120
Heals way too much from Nihiling 3 people with no way to stop him
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>>549592120
I figured if Mohg ever got into NR it'd be the sewer version. I'm surprised they went full NIHIL with him. Can't wait to see how that fight plays out on D5.
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>>549590171
uhh.. ok?
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>>549592120
No, people just suck shit. My 7yo solo'd him in Elden Ring first try. Just gotta acknowledge he swings wide, so even if you aren't being targeted specifically, you should always dodge his attacks like you are, and to burn a couple Spear adds that he summons to save yourself from getting bled to death.
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>>549592191
should have been able to ult him out of it. We can ult the ED adel storm and the ED caligo blizzard which are supposed to be fight defining gimmicks LMAO
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>>549592292
Just buy the fucking potion from Libra, Anon. It's 2000 runes.
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>>549592229
I understand the message they are conveying.
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>>549592382
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>549592120
I fought him so much in Elden Ring while underleveled that I can basically no-hit him effortlessly.
He has a pretty predictable moveset.
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>only uses unupgraded starter weapon most of the run
>gets marika's hammer, spams aow and 4 bars vs mohg and balancers
>doesn't parry anything
why are randoms still like this
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please queue don.
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>>549592506
>tranime
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>>549591464
Hi mommy, love you
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>>549592506
I blocked you...
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>>549592624
pls unblock me?
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>>549591669
Boys can't get pregnant
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>>549592589
Weird cringe post
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revenant is a boy
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>>549592773
Shifty is a boy. Revenant is a girl.
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Great Hollow? More like when the fuck are you ever going to do the cursed forts-ow.
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>>549592697
>>549592506
Shut up trish you stupid mexican sperg
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>>549592506
3/3 thx
gonna queue greg later
yeah thats his name
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>>549591141
How come no one on erg plays Recluse anymore? Should I call them beautiful with my prattling pate?
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>>549592589
>>549592647
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>>549592901
One button gameplay
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>>549592829
is this AI or am I going insane
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>>549592865
shut up stupid anon who i dont even know who it is, succ my g**ck

>>549592901
she's good but they made meele fun again with undertaker
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>>549592647
mutt's law
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Fire dog event was cool ar first, but the rune rewards for doing it feel like ASS. At least have it drop an RNG orb by the end of it.
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>>549591589
>It's just that the 2 arcane guys come prestacked with all sorts of things to help them be status sloppers.
Honestly, no not really. Scholar has no innate status on his starter and exec only has bleed. People often take up a whole relic slot like Caligo to get frost on starter as well, man. Sure execs default dormant is katanas but unless its RoB, then it doesn't matter. Wylder also has like 3 bleed greatswords and 2 frost greatswords in his natty dormant pool
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>>549592998
>>549592647
Curry coded posts
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>>549593095
How about you just shut up?
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>>549593094
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Any lorechads around? What make you of The Great Hollow? For me, it feels like a remnant of an older version of Elden Ring where the Divine Towers were meant to have a more explicit connection to the Numen.
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>>549593094
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>>549592998
I do not like cuckoldry or interracial fetishes.
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where did clumsy go
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>>549592998
>>549593215
Stepping on this anon's face
Sitting on this anon's face
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>>549592901
Because Duchess is prettier and better in every way.
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>>549593095
Even if you split up it's a giant pain in the ass, not a fan. Especially as the additional fire wolves spawn in. They really should add at least a purple dormant to the last one.
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>>549592901
Because you don't enjoy yourself until you get Stars of Ruin.
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>>549593365
Kek
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>>549593275
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>>549590926
Ok I forgot the relic itself tells you. The answer is yes, POIs with two bosses count twice. And I think every POI on the new map has two bosses, so quite convenient for these effects.
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>>549593240
Why not?
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>>549593436
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>>549593634
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>>549593994
jeet
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gg's on heolster, sorry for shitting the bed undercake and wylder. ty for carry never got FHPN :(
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It’s 11am in India right now
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Gg heolstor
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Madison...
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gg heolstor and wp wylder, I really shouldn't have given away my seal with discus of light just because it had +ranged attacks, ironeye wasnt even using a bow lmao.
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>>549593695
Fuck off
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When is the DLC shit going into the depths queue?
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>>549594137
just in time for their 12th bowel movement of the day
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>>549594291
Hopefully never? This map is awful and Greg is overtuned
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>>549593885
>>549593994
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>>549594124
yeah I really should have given you one of mine I had 2 and I could get the discus of light back lmao mb
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>>549594450
Sissy
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>>549594173
Hell yeah this is where the True game begins
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Imagine being so chemically addicted to porn that your brain literally cannot get off unless you think about interracial cuck porn. Not only that, but you have to spam about it on a ds/er board. There's no hope for your dopamine to get fixed. Kill yourself.
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Greg is pretty fun to solo but i find myself busting out to the night bosses in his playlist more often than him
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>>549593215
I make men cum with naught but my feet pics
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>>549594497
>inb4 1 loss and back to mid D4
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sex is unfortunately going to keep happening to me
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>>549594646
you have 2 loss protection from deranking
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>>549594778
Weird post
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>>549594528
This white people enjoying blacked cuck shit is a forced jewish meme https://youtu.be/ftfed6D-Cr8?t=18
They also apparently pay off the jeets to do it for them
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>>549594778
Prove it
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>>549594528
stupid ergie newfig doesn't know gennie culture
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>800 hours played
>280 hours expedition time
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ggs fulghor
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>>549595137
being an inbred cuck that knows "gennie culture" is nothing to be proud of
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>>549594450
I just did dogshit that run, I would be surprised if I see you guys again and didnt get insta blocked for my performance there lmfao
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>>549592382
i can't because Sens got there first and attacked him
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>>549595035
Mindbroken timmy
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>>549594608
may I see them?
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I can’t wait for Duskbloods to come out so I can leave this filth behind
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you guys always get horny at this hour
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>>549595301
Nah ur good shit happens sometimes dw about it
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>>549595314
lmao
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>>549592191
isnt it the same amount of healing as in the base game?
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>>549594778
sex with this anon
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>>549595301
Uh oh Tourist melty!
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>get a lucky early Marais as Duchess in Hollow
>It's literally making my starter dagger scale well and I never found anything better for a long time
>The whole day 1 and night 1 I'm mogging Scholar with my basic dagger
>He eventually seethes so hard he RQs
>Results screen later after we win
>He had Jar Shard
Get fucked faggot.
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>>549595314
sens is just too hungry for his goat cock
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>>549595319
You're the one thats so low iq you got mindbroken by porn forced upon you by your jewish overlords
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How many duplicators are there in Great Hollow? Just one right????
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>>549595759
Only jeets say timmy
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>>549595794
286
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>>549594497
d4 was already that, d4 to d5 is only a relatively slight difference compared to d3 to d4.
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The fucking Marais even had Successives on it. I could spam the WA and keep getting bubbles

>>549595794
Dunno. I should've pinged it though. That would've been good. I'm not good enough at routing Hollow yet.
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>>549595759
>>549595810
Dicklet timmy melty
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>>549595909
What choices have you made in your life that has turned you into such a complete loser that posts this shit?
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>>549595909
Now THIS is peak ergie gennie culture
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no one care about your disgusting fetish.
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stop gooning and queue don r*tards
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>>549595905
just do the crystals then tower lil gup
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i am queuing
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maybe the discord is a better option after all, at least if you let everyone know you're a niggerloving cuck, your identity would be attached to it and everyone could make fun of you and excommunicate you
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>>549596093
>>549596329
me too
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>>549595328
haven't you already?
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bbk is a part of erg culture doejeeit
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+550
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>>549596221
>get a marais drop
>not farming trash
Maybe day 2?
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>>549596497
your loss
throwing sand is funny
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I've been thinking about it, especially with how bad everyone was during release was dog the best choice as the intro nightlord? I remember seeing so many people get filtered by it and then get shocked when they hit the easier bosses like augur. I will admit it did set the tone right on what to expect for the rest of the game but still
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>>549596495
GEM
>>549596375
COAL
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>>549596416
no
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>>549596587
sucks for you
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Trish and kirry!
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Updated google doc? What are the new values for the buffed passives?
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surely dormant powers work the same as starting armaments
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ShiftyDuck
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Post my name next
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>>549597139
Mush
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>>549597139
trash
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>>549596790
I want to see them!
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>>549594778
I feel that. People keep wanting to fill me up.
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Stop trying to scare people off with repulsive ironic fetishes. The general is better with tourists. No one cares that you’re a veteran. You have no value
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hey mama won’t you come down
hey mama won’t you come down?
to the river, to wait, to be
o, wash my hair
like you washed my hair
for years and years
I’m going to wait
there’s a man i know
I think he loves me so
finally
I’m going to wait
so mama, won't you come down?
oh mama, won't you come down
to the river, to wait, to be?
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some of you niggas need to be in prison
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>>549596969
it does
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>>549595905
I wasn't in your run I was just asking. I thought there was just the one under the church
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>>549598063
Mush go back to /mhg/
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Best /erg/ couple?
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>>549598249
erg girls and erg boys flirting with each other is part of the culture
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The fate of all trannyRevs after this year.
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>give all the sake to everyone
>eavesdrop whenever I can
>don't get demon of hatred dialogue
>do it again, but also find the old woman by the battlefield and she talks about the flames of resentment
>surely this time it's-
>still don't get the dialogue
What the fuck do you want from me, game?
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>>549598550
Sexiest: Devil Knight and Zdrada
Cutest: gremlin and Mellow
Most lesbian: Trish and Kirry
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>>549598039
>trying to link the blacked spammer with actual vets here that carry the general
tourtroon falseflag. You are worse than randoms.
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Cord > gennie
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>>549590541
Too little content I guess? Otherwise it's fine, but a lot of people complain about the new map because they hate learning
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One day I will get good drops on day 1
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>>549598913
He used to spam dsg whenever he suspected erg was “raiding”. That is his response to feeling threatened in his safe space and an effort to keep out anyone new. Casuals and tourists are the lifeblood of generals unironically. Never forget it. he’s just a faggot who considers himself an older.
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>thread with the discord link gets deleted/pruned
>general gets spammed with shitposts by 1 schizo
you can tell its one guy because of the cooldown captchas between posts
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Migrate when ready
>>https://discord.gg/2AWWqcbd
>>https://discord.gg/2AWWqcbd
>>https://discord.gg/2AWWqcbd
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anyone else watching dark souls week with ludwig and squeex?
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I’m so glad I have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about
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>>549599714
>>549598913
>>549598039
who is blud waffling about
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its working we're beating them the erg will fall
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ggs ED caligo
melted
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>>549590541
Way too hard for people returning after playing very casually. The new content was filtering D5 9999ers at first. Also I wish the shifting earth was a new map entirely instead of a shifting earth. It's too wildly different and feels like a waste to only come up sometimes. They really needed a new map and they should made seasons for deep of night and given out rewards like skins or some kind of flair and given people a reason to climb to D5 again.

That said all the new relics are amazing, bringing dormants and respecs to normal mode was a fantastic idea, starting spells are great, new characters are great, new enemies are great, new bosses are great and need to be put in depths very soon.
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>>549600085
I didn't do anything... I didn't even have ult because I used it on dancer and then it died too fast
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>>549600085
Geegees GigaCaligo. That crazy fire damage just put it to bed.
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>>549599839
>https://discord.gg/2AWWqcbd
>28 members
Names?
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>>549600252
Names? For the name list. Name the names for my name list
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>>549600172
>>549600232
good damage but life without maris relic is pain desu
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>do one last DoN for the night
>get birdjeet
>he's constantly turning the boss so it's always hitting me
>he keeps his starting shield for the entire run
>dies multiple times to a field dragon
>loses all his runes on the rooftop
>pingspams and then leaves
well at least duchess and I finished but fuck man I'm not doing pubbies anymore
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>>549600504
pubbies!
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>>549600489
100 more health won't save you in d5
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Doesn't Birdjeet have quality but shit? like 30/30 or something? Surely he can just run dormant greatshields and use whatever purple drops desu
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>>549600154
>The new content was filtering D5 9999ers at first.
in 3 runs i had killed both bosses. only lost to balancers cos of that bug where they're all up in their air on my first time and i couldn't tell if it was bugged or just wack
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>>549600154
I beat greg first try and balancers after a few tries (moreso to do with the map than the boss lol)
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>>549600504
>>he keeps his starting shield for the entire run
his starting shield is quite good and he doesn't start with dormant greatshields (nor should he)
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>>549589863
Just one and done'd the Dreglord whereas Balancers took me a couple goes what did I think of him? The Maliketh pillars were cool.
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>hmm the old map is too repetitive because of gaols, lets remove them from the new map
>also lets add these cool purple crystals and scatter them around wouldn't that be fucking pogchamp?
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>>549600593
turns the church rat from a 1shot to a 2shot. same with the crossbow footmen. ironeye invader. etc.
the health regen is nice too.
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>>549600924
also let's make two POIs just straight up give you more murk for clearing them, that definitely won't force a meta or anything
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>>549598351
It's something like that yeah.
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>>549600924
still the most variety of any shifting earth but at the end of the day its still a shifting erf
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>>549600907
dreglord is kino
balancers kind of whatever
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>>549600252
28 is probably half the general
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>>549600924
If you find the crystals hard to manage beyond your first couple runs, you're coping. Split off. IT's easy to all meet up at the crystal then jump to a cursed dungeon when you break it day 2 morning if you haven't already on day 1
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post the discord chat.
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>>549601405
hi brown ESL, that was not the point of the post
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>>549601463
You're whining about the crystals but they're easy and not boring because you just smash them instead of fighting gay Gaol bosses.
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>>549600956
If you need to waste a relic slot solely for church rats and xbow footmen then you're an even bigger shitter than I thought
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>>549601515
he's complaining that gaols are repetitive and that breaking crystals every run is repetitive too you retard
i don't really agree, he's making a big assumption that they didn't put any gaols in the new map because of repetitiveness. and hunting for and breaking crystals is at least different from just sprinting between field bosses/gaol fights. they're both repetitive but throw them both into the mix and you have a bit more variety.

>>549601628
who the fuck said anything about "needing" it you nigger. he said it sucks to not have it and it's true, getting one-shot by starter camp enemies at level 1 sucks.
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>>549601758
>he's complaining that gaols are repetitive and that breaking crystals every run is repetitive too you retard
They aren't comparable and I literally responded to that in the post you're replying to. Like LITERALLY I was calling out how they're less repetitive because pressing Y is better than fighting fucking Stoneskin niggers
> hunting for and breaking crystals is at least different from just sprinting between field bosses/gaol fights
Agreed, it's also very viable to split for 30 seconds and break several. That's what Gladius' raid is meant to teach you.
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gg mini libra, poor aschev is traumatized because I bully him out of all his loot... well played scholar, i don't even know what the ulti does but it's sick
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>>549601421
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>>549602078
Faggot terr
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>>549602229
evil terr, calls people wh*teys
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>>549601515
There's only 1 invader and 0 damage buffs it's strictly a shittier map
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GG Libra
>>549602078
RoB would be better on you anyway. If only I had time to grab that moonveil but I don't like being in rain.
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>>549602278
>nonstop gold drops
>denser enemy layouts so farming is easier and more varied
Autistic retard. Go eat your dino nuggies and apple juice elsewhere.
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>>549602343
The gold drops are completely random lol. And no who gives a shit you can hit level 15 with reds and purps in limveil. The map is a debuff
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>>549601758
if you're jobbing to starter camp enemies so much to the point you equip the maris just to survive it then you're simply a shitter, don't know what to tell you anon
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>>549602343
Hey man I don't think losing out on over 30% extra damage is very viable
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>>549602523
Anon, the whole map has Noklateo tier loot drops. I have only gotten a purple from a boss rush tower boss ONCE so far. I got two legendaries at once earlier. Most of my runs we have 1-2 Legendaries in the party.
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I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance
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>>549602648
You get to do other things and pick up passives and other shit. You're being deeply autistic.
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>>549602650
Oh boy grafted dragon and the crescent curved sword. Are you stupid?
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>>549602751
Fagooot lookol u madil bruuhhhh
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>>549602726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7SzlmtH_yQ
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>>549602786
>Noooo! A high AR holy weapon with a built in weapon buff! Horrible!
>We're FUCKED! Somebody got one of the strongest weapon arts! No!!!!! Grafted Dragon suck!
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>>549596923
GOOGLE DOCKEY!
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>>549602726
Magic SUCKS
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>>549602751
Did you know gaols also have passives
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ggs heolster
fun fight
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scholar is really fucking fun
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GGs Heolstor. Bopped em good we did. Landing the last hit with the ult from far away felt pretty cool.
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>>549603176
i was gonna finish him with the crit you robbed me you bastard
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What a shame that the era of the evergaol is over
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>>549603135
gg heolstor, I go the weapon art spamming build and the game gives me all the best sorcery stuff yeehee. also we do NOT talk about the bats at that invader camp
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JUST
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>>549603240
>it's le over because of one shit map exclusive to normie runs
retard
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>>549603307
not bad if you go blue maris relic
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I am le queued for DoN
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>playing Scholar
>find a Guardian
>give him commander's halberd when it drops for me
>know damn well he's had the option to pick ripple crescent halberd, but he'll never grab it because he doesn't know it's amazing on Scholar
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>>549590619
I like how you can open treasure chest and a legendary can just pop out, like most shifting earth corpses :)
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The self-righteous shall choke on their sanctimony
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>>549603531
>Scholard and Birdjeet on the same team
I feel bad for the third player.
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>>549603531
Unless you have bloodflame blade or something similar, ripple is very mid
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Any of the new gems good for Wylder?
What's the meta build?
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https://youtu.be/u2ABFEFeeAo?si=Gu-0FVC3TgH6HUTi
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>>549603090
>fight an unfun boss and get Guarding causes Heals
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This is mandatory on every melee character, and yes you should be playing meleeeye. 35% damage at three stacks, which are easy as shit to get and last a minute.
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>>549603856
The birds one over evergaols desu. Let’s you spam ash of wars and do caster damage from the get go
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>>549604327
wtf theres no way the buff lasts for an entire minute
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>dodging bugs
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I can’t believe they made the final DLC boss Indian coded.
Very disturbing stuff.
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Wasn't me

t. Ironcarry
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>>549604387
You can test it, and only takes 1 hit to reset the timer.
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>>549604327
why did they add such an amazing effect on a character remembrance you can't roll otherwise
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>>549604327
what does the whole relic read i haven't played undertaker once and assumed it was exclusive to them
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>>549604446
Kys timmy wait until we com japan and make boss yormom coded bitc
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>>549604537
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In case you were curious, this passive is every bit as garbage as it sounds like it is.
It doesn't heal yourself, it doesn't make your ult do any more revival damage, it doesn't heal people that you do revive with it (didn't they fix Revenant's ult heal relic to do that?).
This thing is exactly what it is written.
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>>549604537
It's the successive attacks effect, the rest is an undertaker buff and ult +3 but those don't matter.
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gg. poor small bug
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GG Minibug.
ED would've been more fun considering the gear we all had.
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Welp, whoever dodged bugs killed the queue and my room sis cold so gonna heat up and make breakfast and queue later.
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>>549603669
>bird and nun run to mausoleum, despite us only having starting weapons
>nun dies in storm twice for no reason
if anyone was a victim, it was me. Shit was so stupid, i forgot that we only won because the leader balancer got stuck in t-pose
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>>549604574
How are you people even real?
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People are so bad at dreglord
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>>549604776
>sword and poke Scholar
Blud is playing exactly how I would be playing him, you get a pass.
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>>549604780
What the hells is that image.
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>>549604876
poke and board*
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>>549604775
I dont care
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>>549604920
Downtown Vancouver
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>>549604327
Watch this relic being destroyed next patch in 2 weeks.
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>>549604920
tyler oliveira going to the poopoo festival in India, the guy does a lot of these based ragebaity videos
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>>549605010
nah, this is just the natural patch cycle of any souls game
magic starts out OP, gets nerfed into the ground, then meleeGODS rule the game
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>>549604365
>spam ashes
it's only like 1 fp every 4 seconds
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Let me choose which countries can and can't play with me so I can filter china
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>>549605230
that's one uuuuuuuuuuuuh quickstep every 8 seconds
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>>549605183
No, as much as I don't want them to touch the only good free relic for melee, they are going to nuke it.
They will probably halve the damage buff and make lv3 last as long as the other similar effect and not a full minute.
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>>549604987
t. queue dodger
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>quest starts
>birdman instantly realizes he made a mistake at character selection and leaves
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What was ED Balancer relics supposed to be?
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Geegees GigaCaligo.
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How do I get a fat sissy erg gf?
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>>549605615
The same thing but red and with "Occasionally Nullify Attacks When Damage Negation is Lowered" instead of FP regen
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Artorias is the actual name of Arthur from the british isles who repelled the saxons from Britain.
Miyazaki named this guy artorias because he sees the abyss as a bunch of germans.
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>>549605823
no its not
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>>549605683
add trish
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>>549605823
Who asked
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>>549605848
>gets hit anyway
dork
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I am the undertaker
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>>549606763
1 sex please
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>>549606854
You will not survive
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queue don im bored
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>>549606993
snu snu...
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Straghess' third phase isn't different enough to justify the music change. The music for his phase 2 is already pure kino. Shame. Everdark when.
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ggs ED bugs
crystal build is better than full giants against them grim
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>>549607146
who are these people
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why do people say guardian is le bad, when in reality, he's actually le good?
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>>549607178
vega and yerba, it says in the picture
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cc i stole your players if u want them back you know what to do
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>>549607178
that's vega and yerba bro, you new or something?
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>>549607064
i would but i'm waging
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>>549607146
ggs. I ran dormant seals hoping for bloodflame blade but I got jack shit, it was dumb idea.
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well that libra was just gay. nothing like being raped by duchess pebbles over and over.
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>>549607096
never, only the balancers get an everdark
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I genuinely hate both of the new characters, how disappointing
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>>549607469
Names. Right now.
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ggs ED goat What an ordeal lol we'll get em next time
Have no idea why I was bouncing off the undertaker when trying to res though, feel like it was a bug
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>>549607096
how do I unlock the 3rd phase, he only has 2 for me
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>>549607317
>threatening to take all the raiders
nooo don't take the guardians too please nooo
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cc can we hold hands
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>>549607469
the raped
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>>549607574
you need the cord end
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>>549607178
>>549607146
i forgot to post this previous thread but vega cheated his relics, i mean it's pretty obvious anyway since they're all god rolls and he's barely played depths with us + private profile
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Kubrivk
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er/nr boys and girls tierlist based on how built they are for black blade kindred (NEWLY UPDATED)
>S tier
Raider
Recluse
>A tier
Undertaker
>B tier
Wylder
>C tier
Ironeye
Duchess
Guardian
>D tier
Executor
Scholar
Revenant
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>>549607146
Yeah, that's what I told the anon who asked about faith duchess against bugs. Unless you luck into flame tempest, sorceries are still better.
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>>549608070
thanks, blocked
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>>549608070
i was thinking it but he didn't put on night invaders so i thought he just got lucky damn
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>>549608070
Fucking Tourists
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>>549608070
He is still playing on the password? Played a game a couple months ago with him and he was cheating as crystalian recluse.
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>>549607096
Starg is like Heolster. He won't get an everdark
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>>549608148
i'm going over each nightlord and i think the only boss i want to play faith on is caligo, the rest are just too weak to magic or too fun to not melee
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>>549606026
>>549605851
Yes it is you Saxon bastard
You made artorias the OP of the thread so people have to know
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Finally! After many many fails, I got to level 2 of the depths.
All with randoms too.
I'm scared of what level 2 will be like. Enemies become more powerful, right?
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>>549608294
>>549607478
Say it ain't so.
>>549607574
Heh.
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>>549608794
only a little
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>>549608294
Him and heolstor will eventually get an ED, trust the plan
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>>549608794
good job cutie
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>>549608979
Thanks. I was planing on trying to play a round with you guys, but when I opened the thread, I see a post announcing a cheater. So I guess I'll go back to random.
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>>549609245
>I see a post announcing a cheater
And this is a bad thing how?
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>play duchess or rev
>go to shop with everyone and ping star shard
>people shop while I look at them, look at me for 5 seconds and then walk on
Please drop shards for me if we don’t visit rises so I don’t need to split for them
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>>549609245
nigger, D5 random queue is full of chinese cheaters
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>>549607317
Cheater lobby
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>>549609392
But I need to pop star shards for LV3 warming stones that will never see use?
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ggs mystery Hotdogs That went a lot better than the previous run lmao good stuff
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ggs, i like that all i gotta do is make sure i buff the duchess and ult when they split lmao
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>>549609530
i laughed when i first saw how slow they were
poison pots are better res tools, do they do anything better at level 3?
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friendly reminder to clear you're blocklists, everyone deserves a second chance
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>>549609392
Nigga that's your problem. Don't rely on others. Do a quick trip to a sorcerer rise, buy 2 at the merchant and that's it, you have 4 starlight and it's enough for the nightlord.

>But I need them for field bosses and day2 boss
No you don't
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>>549609392
This but crabs for Scholars.
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>>549609885
nta sometimes the map will only have 1 rise and it'll be in the middle of nowhere
i always drop my casters shards at day 3 and if i remember i'll do it during the run so they can spend FP more freely
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>>549609802
only if you look like this
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>>549609675
Poison pots at L3 apply the throwing knife negation down debuff to enemies
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>>549610090
no i look like this lil bwo now clear it
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woof
i am a dog
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>>549609885
Honestly revs biggest issue isn’t the character, it’s that your teammates are actual morons
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>>549610098
no, they do not. where the fuck did you get that idea?
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I'm back and ready to queue
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who the fuck thought it was a good idea to put one of the new map's mines in half HP curseland
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so which one is harder? PCR or dreglord?
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>>549609392
Yeah i wanted to try out revvy since I got a dragon cult/evergaol relic but even with a reduced fp line & 3 seal increases I still can’t solo maintain fp without rise visits and only mush dropped me a shard outside day 3. Maybe it’s because because I play caster so much that I just instinctively always buy star shards and typically drop them in the day one ring if I have a caster. The snowball on lightning revvy feels like crystal duchess but the fp block is a wall you have to overcome
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hey chat is this good?
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>>549611168
Yes
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>>549611168
spell school + damage passive is always good
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>>549611000
PCR pre-nerf for sure and it's not even close. Don't know about post nerf, I've yet to replay the dlc.
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>>549611000
dreglord greglord is not so tough.
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>>549611000
PCR has way too much bullshit going on in his fight to be easier than any NR boss but ED Libra.
All dregman has going for him is the random loot and "runback" inherent to all nightlords.
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>>549609480
How can you tell?
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>>549591030
You’re wrong
>>549592113
Got his ass
>>549590883
Seems doubtful but not unlikely I guess
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ggs dreglord
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>>549612148
gg
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>>549612148
gg
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>>549612243
n
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>>549612243
no
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>>549611000
Greg at D5 might be tough but in D0 here’s really basic since you can tank like 5 hits and still live. Also he seems to have a lot of missing or generous hitboxes. Meanwhile PCR two shot you at 60 vig, had bullshit moves, wouldn’t let you heal without input reading you and the lightshow was so disorienting sometimes
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>>549592506
>>549592941
Hot and cute
>>549593029
>>549593240
>>549593167
Funny how I don’t even need to see the post to know what this was
>>549595237
>>549595759
>>549595810
>>549596000
>>549596089
Go easy on terr his izzat demands he worship turds at every opportunity
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Randoms quit at the start of the game, because we die once to a gaol boss. Motherfuckers are so SOFT. We were only at level 2. Losing a level and 30 seconds of time is nothing.
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>>549612330
pretty sure greg can one shot you at d0 if he eats some zombies first
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>>549612362
>>549611864
Shut up terrjeet
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>>549612243
No, because from are retarded and can't describe properly.
Two handed and two armaments attack power passive are not real attack power buff.
What they do instead is buffing the damage of 2h moveset and powerstancing moveset.
Two armaments will do nothing of you are not powerstancing.
Both effects won't do anything for your ash of war.
Both effects don't work ok bows or staves/seals.
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>>549611000
>so which one is harder? PCR or dreglord?
pcr by far. that fight is still tough even when you have him fully downloaded. dreglord is a good fight but its not nearly as chaotic as it seems once you have the timings down. you can make a lot more mistakes. also im purely talking about honest melee, not c*stings or cheese strats
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Not playing Executor has made me realize how much I absolutely fucking despise suncatcher removing weapon buffs. Why will they never fix it?
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gg heolster
he really needs more health even if he doesn't get an everdark, he doesn't have enough to not get melted
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what is with the dreglord staggering all the time? well more like flinching. you dont get a riposte but you still get to wail on him for a few seconds. is that just from damage? or is it a special effect from holy or something? honestly it seems too generous.
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>>549612973
GG, i hate condemmed.
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>>549612973
You were both running that holy weapon buff thing, I think that's why he melted as fast as that DRB. I do still think hes too weak to holy, the frisbee is too good to not use but its also boring as hell.
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>>549612514
He’s like a field boss in phase one though. Getting hit by him more does emotional damage like getting hit by shape of night, but no one will ever lose to either
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>>549613039
it's not from holy damage, i've popped it with all sorts of random shit. it might just be a damage threshold like ironeye mark.
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Are you not supposed to play support scholar or something? I have had two games now were I go full support with buff on skill relic and apply items to the team, and had both team members wait for me to die without doing anything and then leaving.
The first time I assumed it was my fault because I died 4 times to draconic earlier in the run, so I played more safe the second time and only died once and got my crab up to 3.

I don't give a shit about getting grief'd, but I just want to know if support scholar is considered bad manners or something.
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>>549612808
From has probably halved its staff in anticipation for the financial cataclysm that is duskbloods
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>>549613387
i don't know but maybe it is to chinamen? i'd rather like it if i had a scholar giving me damage and survivability buffs...
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I really don't fucking get how anyone can play solo. It's too fucking difficult.
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>>549613149
i hate how shit """"""stealth""""""" is
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>>549613354
>no one will ever lose to phase 1 straghess/shape of night
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>>549613528
get shoved idiot
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>>549613387
You are playing with randoms who are, unsurprisingly, retarded.
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>>549613526
you use your CEkino relics when playing solo and switch back to your legit ones when playing with /erg/
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>>549613629
The tables haven't been updated for the dlc
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>>549613387
'support' is a meme, doing good DPS is the best form of support. You should be keeping the buff up on yourself anyway, and if anyone else gets it that is as much 'support' as you ever have to give. Maybe dont ult on a solo boss when everyone is full HP.
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>>549613528
Skill issue
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>>549613526
stance damage? ive never played solo but all the clips ive seen everything posture breaks super fast.
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>>549613526
just buy all the wendings and revive thirty times
it's "hard" but you don't actually lose (unless you're in depths)
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>>549613578
I've seen some regulars here 3bar to phase 1 heolstor.
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>>549613387
i haven't had this problem but i also use the dex relic and poke things
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I think people will eventually realise Scholar isn't actually that good
debuffing is pointless when you could just have someone that does more damage in the first place
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Which relics are good for undertaker?
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>>549613526
Everything has 80% less HP, and poise breaks to a few heavy attacks or weapon skills. Playing a caster solo is the real meme because most spells dont do great stagger damage and its hard to get damage off the crit.
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>>549613676
not him but what if i do both (when i'm not 3barred because squishy dude + crappy roll)
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not a single new weapon in the expansion? are you fucking kidding me with these worthless fucking jap bugmen?
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>>549613803
both her character ones and the new boss one
it's that simple
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>>549612808
They think if you sudoku yourself 3 times before the boss then seamlessly swapping into parry stance mid‑combo while still keeping all your weapon buffs would somehow be way more OP than Ironeye’s effortless poison burst.
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>>549613780
true and while we're at it i'll take someone who goes no-hit every run while also dealing double my dps

i'll happily take a support scholar giving me negation, hp and damage for days since i'm already planning on carrying
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Greg should've just done good old fashion poison, but like Deadly poison where it's a higher tick rate, Scarlet Rot is too ER coded and Greg's a little bit of DS and they both share poison.
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>>549613387
Probably chinks being chinks, but also Scholar, while having support abilities, is still expected to be dealing damage. By default he has revenant tier sorcery so you can use staves, and there's some arcane weapons that he matches or exceeds the more normal melee characters with.
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>>549613984
it should've been poison, rot is like a special outer god poison so why does dreggy have it? deadly poison makes more sense lore-wise
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>>549613895
small insect developer
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>>549613895
Bro your scholar and undercaker starting weapons???
That's 2 whole new weapon right there, are you retarded? Isn't that enough?
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>>549613895
next dlc
trust
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It'd be super fucking stupid if they never include the dlc weapons. That would have Nightreign end on such a low note.
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>>549613895
i mean, the more weapons they add the less chances you have to get what you want. also they probably just do dripfeed tactics to get people coming back at a later time
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>>549614069
The outer god seen all us dregs rotting away in the q
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>>549614485
>the more weapons they add the less chances you have to get what you want.
but they specifically added options to buy relics from ver 1.02 and earlier
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Who is Greg?
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>>549614628
druglord who supplies erg with its gender-affirming medicine
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>>549614553
you think they make two type of expeditions for every boss and depths? 1 with new weapons 1, 1 with old seems pretty stupid to do, and i think it would split the playerbase in a weird way
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>>549614485
>i mean, the more weapons they add the less chances you have to get what you want
It's a roguelite wtf who cares.
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>>549614628
I am Greg.
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>>549590541
>no SotE weapons
>no SotE spells
>no SotE talismans
>no SotE consumables
>only ported over 1 remembrance boss from SotE
>no Dark Souls 2 boss
>still missing bosses from the base game
>no new night bosses for the old bosses
>no new seeds with the new POIs or raids for the old bosses
>can't even play the new map with the old bosses
>new bosses and map are unavailable in Deep of Night
>no new skins for the old characters
Among other things
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>>549614769
Surely someone who has yet to understand that no, you don't have to use only greatswords when playing wylder.
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>>549614710
not sure what you mean. you can buy pre-dlc relics at the merchant. yes, when you finish an expedition the game is going to give you relics from the pool with the new relics. but you can still buy the old ones. probably 95% of people's usable relics they bought from the shop instead of getting them as a reward.
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Guardian is still the only male faith character.
So he's the only choice for straight men who have faith
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>Mixed
are we cooked chat?
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>>549615029
This.
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>>549615029
>furry
>straight
pick one
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>>549614485
real talk, if they add every spell from the DLC are casters going to get fucked? Trying to remember which ones were good. The multi-lightning spear is obviously good, and the messmer fireball is good, but I remember most everything else like the finger sorcery being totally useless.
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>>549603669
holy Christ you’re right that’s bad kek
>>549604574
trying too hard terr
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>>549615029
caster wylder exists, and even if he has a little bit less FTH, he's still a better character than birdjeet
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My friends and colleges, I am here today to ask you one simple question:
Have you CR2'd your firemonk flame mace today?
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>>549605823
None of that is true
>>549610751
>>549610352
>>549609802
>>549611127
Good posts
>>549611000
PCR and it’s not close lol
Granted he’s been nerfed significantly but even now I would say he’s worse
>>549614485
>drip feed
Nothing like that planned sorry man
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>>549615029
Wylder does it without being Guardian, so he does it better.
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>>549614813
Good points.
We should hire you as a developer instead of ISHITzaki
>>549613436
>financial
Doubtful
They probably already made back their profit with whatever the hell Nintendo is paying them
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>>549614628
Trooncord name for Dreglord because they are afraid of being genuine about anything.
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>>549611000
PCR. They need to do Everdark Dreglord and make him on PCR's level. Would be kino.
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>>549615731
>because they are afraid of being genuine about anything.
Fucking got em. Can't stand that sort of "sillyness for no reason" crap. Just be fucking normal.
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>>549615731
Why'd all the shitposting stop all of a sudden?
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>>549612521
go jerk off to your scat porn you sick dravidian bastard
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>>549615439
There's a lot of useless shit in the DLC, but it could be mitigated by making the "good" spells be default on the new catalysts. Fire Serpent for Fire Knight Seal, Giant Golden Arc for Spiraltree Seal, Fleeting Microcosm for Staff of the Great Beyond, etc.
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Notice how no one spoke about the discord and yet the thread is still vandalized by the same mentally broken retard.
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ggs honse
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>>549615731
uh oh druggie melty!
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GG DDK
Nice clutch on NK after sloppeh first half.
Naefy I am sorry about that horrible caligo run yesterday, hopefully this one made up for it.
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>>549616486
Sorry for triggering you terr.
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>>549615980
dogshit image
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>>549616590
My bad. Here.
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calling a boss Greg is all it takes to make you people seethe like this? holy christ lmao genuinely seek help
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>>549616459
erm his name is Fulghor, stop giving the bosses silly names
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>>549616668
Saying terr and his friend aren't genuine doesn't need to cause a discord melty like this please be non-autistic.
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I'm never going to have a decent pot throwing build, the gacha despises me
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>>549616459
>>549616534
gg horse I tried to go melee build and the game gives me all this sorcery loot yet again, oh well I'll take it

We still won that caligo run even though it was really bad luck as well as really fucking laggy, shit was sliding everywhere and I was getting onetapped out of nowhere and it tilted me off the face of the earth.
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>>549616793
Beat margit and do the throwing knife build that people say is better.
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>>549616734
what the fuck are you talking about? I think you need to go outside.
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>>549614813
It occurs to me they probably have some system where the seed is decided upon a player deciding to start an expedition, and then that player is matched with others with the same seed. That would mean if they tried to add more seeds, they would severely split the playerbase. What they should have done is have the seed selected at the character select screen. I'm 100% sure I'm correct about this.
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>>549617280
That probably isn't how it works. It probably does create the given seed when you start a lobby but it just grabs the first 2 to join up they don't need to magically have the same seed magically set on their end that is dumb.
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>>549617280
If this was true the /erg/ password would be even deader than dead
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gg bugs
sorry about sticking to the dragon i didn't hear the ping
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>>549613895
>>549614485
They will very likely add some sort of vaguely themed gatcha pulls later once they put in SoTE weapons/spells
>inb4 its all cope
Fat chance, they already said they will intergrate SotE PoIs into regular map seeds (or more like they will add more SotE map seeds to non-DLC expeditions)
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>>549617348
>they don't need to magically have the same seed
But it isn't magic. These aren't actually procedurally generated maps, that's why we all know where things are. They're fixed, there's just however many number of variations.
>>549617349
I was 1/3 for half an hour once.
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>>549614769
>It's a roguelite wtf who cares.
LMAO one of the worst thing about THE most popular roguelite is the laughably bloated item pools full of garbage, to the point where its optimal to curate your unlocks with a wiki open if you want to have better winrates.
I am of course talking about TBoI
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>>549617471
gg, we were already level 15 anw so i thought you were just fighting it for fun.
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>>549617654
Nobody should care what annoying niggers think about anything. Like the players who turned off the Great Hollow because getting to the new bosses and beating them was more important than soaking in the new map.
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>>549617640
The maps have seeds. They need to select the same map, the seed is chosen regardless.
Seeds and maps aren't the same thing. Under your scenario you and I could both queue the same map using the same pass and never meet because we have different seeds.
It doesn't work that way. If you host the map and I join the map I'll be in your lobby. We don't see seeds on our end and we all get the same seed as the lobby maker we don't have one until joining the lobby.
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>>549617747
that too
melee duchess is so fun
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gg dreg
>balancer invasion
>noklateo
>wending grace
>triple marais swords
good lord was it even possible to lose?
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>>549616793
>>549616875
I am not sure either are worth in Depths. Pots have hypothetically high damage ceiling but still below optimized Spellslop given how limited our resources are
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>>549617890
Just had this happen
>>549617923
Daggers give a debuff, the margit relic would just be for styling.
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i don’t think I’ll ever know why browns and troons think i make the posts that they do not like
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>>549617890
ggs dreglord yeah that run was insanely busted lmao
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>>549617654
true i fucking hate games where unlocking items turns is a negative because the new pool is so shit
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>>549617890
ggs. what does the balancer buff do again? I was busy dealing with a wormface and couldn't read the popup
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>>549577516
Thank you so much.
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the balancer buff? no she's pretty lanky
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>>549618095
thats wild that happened to an anon yesterday
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>>549618095
its randomly revives you from death i think. not sure precisely how it works
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>>549617835
haha yeah melee in general is so much fun since i've also been playing caster duchess for so long, unless i'm fighting maris i'll be queued as strevenant!
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>>549617763
Point was that adding much new effects to the item pool is gonna be overkill without adding new ways to manipulate the rolls
I am a /bbg/ autist I know my pretty stupid random ass stones but the current system is just too much
And I am pretty convinced FROM are aware of the issue
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>>549617890
That sounds like such a blast.
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>install ps5 version of both games, delete ps4 version from ps5 for space, used a terabyte already lmao
>boot elden, go to hinterlands
>neat this looks amazing, lets try ray trac-nope, stutters, guess thats why unreal engine 5 has been getting so much flak, ok back to silky frame rate, nice
>main hub menu, time played: 9 minutes
>huh, it said over 2100 yesterday, wait that was the ps4 version...
>check trophies
>0%
welp i'm never doing cheevos ever again. and how do you fuck this up.
glad I already got plat for NR but i'm never getting elden plat now. (only needed endings)
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>>549618309
As someone that plays normally with no cheated relics I see the only upgrade we'll ever get, if we ever get one, is a way to change the color of the relic. Thats it, no rerolls for lines, no locking lines to assemble a best in slot, no option to do anything BUT change the color. And you won't be able to do it on shop relics, only true gacha rolls.

The only thing fucking up my best relics is them not pairing up with my other best relic chalices based on color. Letting me change the color of the relic would be a bigger gain than anything else for the least work. So thats what they'll do.
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I could play NR but I got memed into playing Reforged
Hopefully it is nice.
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>>549618545
the new colourless deep relic chalice in the shop made so many more builds possible for me
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testing
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>>549618545
I am not buying that because that defeats the purpose of white slots
I am far more inclined they'd release themed pools like
>Sorcerous Pool: assorted magic bullshit including sorcery schools, glintstone chunks (lol), magic-shrouded tear at start, magic damage, every INT or ARC themed respec, dormant power (staff) etc.
and the such, not 100% synergistic but pools united by some vague flavour.
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>>549618629
if thats the one that lets you start with sekiro deflection / deflection tear as a starting gift or just an inherent ability you can use right off the bat, its probably sick.
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>>549619007
They already have a few of those unique relics in the shop. I like adding more of those but adding more keeps highlighting the ingrained issues with the relic system instead of fixing it.
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captcha is bugged and im tired of waiting 120 so

its been like this for months and im done.
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>>549619130
The only glaring issue is that you can't hunt for specific effects, which isn't how it was in Bloodborne
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>>549615029
game needs a quality + fth spear chad
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>>549618545
yeah i wish i could change the color of just one of my relics so badly. it would make one of my setups so much better

>>549618651
how do you buy that anyways? is it at collector signboard or is it at bazaar? i killed all the everdarks already but i dont recall seeing it yesterday
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>>549619356
Shows up after you kill one of the new bosses I think. After I beat balancers with undertaker the collector signboard had new chalices for everyone.
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>>549619148
Didn't ask
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>>549615692
>>549615487
30 faith is nowhere near enough because softcaps are close to 20 and 40
38 is passable.
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>>549619518
Ah okay I got those already then. Thanks
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seriously WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT CALIGO
>surge sprint up to her to bloody helice AoW dodge through the breath
>AoE doesn't go off for some reason, so just eat it raw
>don't die, but then the AoW goes off, spinning me straight into the follow up wing swipes, downing me
>mistime the next dodge, fair enough, but it slides me straight into the other end of her 360 breath hitting me again and downing me
>phase 2 transition, run away... huh, that's weird, why aren't i... what the fuck i'm on the arena wall, can't get away in time, down again
>rezzed directly onto ice on the ground, roll out, instantly rollcaught by another 360 breath downing me
>unfortunate positioning, she starts the next 360 breath right next to me, straight up don't have the i-frames even with the AoW, down again
>get rezzed again just in time for the flyby to perfectly catch me at the exact frame my revive i-frames end, down again
>revived again, another flyby, have no idea what even hit me. an icicle followed by the very tippy tip of her wing? fucked if i know, down AGAIN
might be a fucking world record for amount of absolute horseshit deaths. this game is starting to make me sound like fucking DSP

but ggs...
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>>549620004
whew lad that's alot of shitter cope in one post
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>>549620004
its amazing how big the arena can feel yet so small at the same time. the majority of caligo fights you run into the wall. its so dumb
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>>549620212
The best part is finding out you are close to it when you need to run back to avoid the ice and run nowhere.
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>>549619680
NTA but I think the difference is negligible considering the damage/opening that Wylder's ult provides
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q for depths plz
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>>549620004
why didn't you dodge
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>>549620518
breakfast
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>special merchant now randomly sells Blood Antspurs
Best thing about Scholar's introduction to the game.
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>>549620586
i was ready to, but i get hit even though nothing is near me. the icicles dont knock you down or one-shot like that.
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I can buy 2 firepots for the scholar for the price of 1 starlight shard for rev. Guess who doesn't get free starlight shards anymore?
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>>549620862
I swear he gets blood antspurs at a special rate
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>>549620991
>i get hit even though nothing is near me
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>>549621003
I mean a Scholar probably already optimized into a certain consumable type and came packing so I see no reason to buy consumables for scholar unless its Crab
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>getting body blocked by allies and getting hit
bros..
MOVE YOUR FUCKING FAT ASSES FUCK
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>muh cheaters
the relic system sucks massive dicks, one of the biggest fuckups formsoft made
>but muh "you're not supposed to have perfect relics"
yet between having optimal setup and no relics the difference can be 300% damage, curious

anyone who unironically enjoys wasting time in this glorified slotmachine doing nothing but wading through endless trash is a moutbreathing retard (probably plays gacha too) and their opinion should not be taken seriously
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>>549621104
have you never fought caligo before?
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>>549621189
>yet between having optimal setup and no relics the difference can be 300% damage, curious
if you need 300% bonus damage to clear nightreign you might just not be very good
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>>549621326
bodied that freak
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>>549621189
The relic system is terrible, yes.
Imagine going from Souls where you just have to find 99% of drops with 0 RNG involved to Korean slot machine 5000 hours of grind gameplay.
Even when I get good relics there's no sense of accomplishment because of how dogshit the RNG is.
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>>549621189
You are brown.
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>>549621415
>>549621380
>>549621326
>t subhuman gacha addict
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>>549621189
>yet between having optimal setup and no relics the difference can be 300% damage, curious
Curious how noone practically has or can have an optimal setup bar maybe couple lottery winners in the world, yet you entitle yourself to setups that ruin runs for your teammembers lol
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>>549621415
You are korean
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>>549590867
>you unironically have to "git gud"
welp, im out
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>>549621119
Characters that want you to buy them stuff in the spirit spring stand by the vendor my dude. I'll know who wants gear if you don't need it you won't be standing around the merchant like people that need items.
Come on bro.
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>>549621441
I mostly run the fixed relics like nightlords remembrances and merchants and win anyway because you do not need to instakill everything with the perfect optimal 300% damage bonus magic abuser setup to beat this game lol
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>>549621775
Fair, but the fact that all the actual fun shit like different starting stuff or different dormant power weapon or stat redistribution is still tied to this garbage system is a crime
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>>549621189
You don't really need anything beyond the boss and shop relics. Anything you get as rewards from wins will fluff out the rest of your collection fine. I've beaten everything in the game without having to cheat relics in. The relic system is bad but not bad enough to sacrifice my moral integrity over.
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>>549621912
You know what, stuff about dormant powers and a few starting stuff is a real argument, as that isn't just optimal stat setups but more sidegrade stuff, they did add the stat shifting relics to the collector signboard though so maybe we'll see more in some updates hopefully.
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>>549621775
this. i run fun passives, relics that upgrade character skills, post-damage restoration, sometimes stamina on hit, and do perfectly fine
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I had a scholar this run who was buffing almost every fight and at the spirit shelter I just decided to buy everything and drop it on the ground and let the scholar go pick through it first and then fill my inventory with the shit he couldn't carry anymore
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>>549621441
I don't play gacha I just think you're a brown loser is all
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>>549621912
Not really, you just have really skewed perspectives. Outside the gauranteed relics you get from nightlords or buy from the shop what is there you need?
>elemental starters
>hoarfrost stomp
>night invaders
You can get by with a literal small relic with the line on it if you need it and you'll be a-okay.

Normalize being fine with 6 of the 9 lines on your relic halves being good enough. 7 and over is when you are getting really strong but its the equivalent of leveling to 150 when the meta was 125 in ER. You are overpreparing for what you need to deal with. If you can't clear any content without 9 out of 9 slots being hyper optimal I don't know what to tell you.
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I WILL be posting the discord link in the next thread
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>>549622032
>night of dreg
>dark night of dog
>undertaker rememberance
such a fun setup all guaranteed
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ggs heolster
rough game but fun because i like fighting john nightreign
sorry about the afk in shelter i needed a piss and we didn't have the dps for me to hold it in
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wow thanks for the carry cc. scholar mage is really meh overall.
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>>549621189
Fixed relics are good enough and inconvenient system does not make cheating fine
>>549621387
>99% of drops with 0 RNG
certainly not true for elden ring
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>>549590101
This month? Unknown. There is a patch upcoming to help guardian and raider not be trash and add new weapons but all we know is that it's planned.
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>>549622183
That still doesn't change the fact that if you want a specific line you might have to spend up to 30 minutes (if not more, depending on RNG) just to see that line in the first place, unless you get lucky. Staring that the jar bazaar screen and repeatedly buying and selling shit is not compelling gameplay and there's zero reason it should exist in the first place.
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>>549622229
completely agree, i run a similar setup to that but i want to mess around with night of dreg too
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>>549622242
>>549622245
gg heolstor I had such terrible damage for most of day 1, but somehow I got the one thing Undercaker can reliably spam at range.
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>>549620004
lmao no worries dude we all have these games sometimes
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>>549622438
>There is a patch upcoming to help guardian and raider not be trash and add new weapons but all we know is that it's planned.

NTA but oh shit that's awesome, where did that get announced?
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that is the wrong picture oopsie
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>>549592191
There is, Libra sells a position that breaks it when he's in the map and there's a red albunauric that drops it as a dormant for all in I think the west blood ruin.
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>>549615487
The new STR/DEX relic made Guardian much better, imo. There are still issues (and using up a relic slot to achieve normal famage sucks) but he ain't useless anymore.
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>>549622646
I had a run where Libra didn't sell it :(
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>>549621189
i've been running this dogshit relic for the past 20 games and i have literally no problems
cheaters are bad players and cope that it's the relic system's fault
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>>549594334
Greg is so much easier than ED Gladius and even regular Fulghor. He punishes stamina depeters hard. It's the lowest skill check in the game and it still filters people.
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>>549595558
yeah that guy's retarded
death knight's heal got nerfed though
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You're free to cheat in your own little separate dimension of cringe but do not dare to step into random queue and ruin games for other people.
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>>549622643
lmao
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i'm not ballsy enough to take melee duchess into ED libra nuh uh
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>>549622623
Dev interview. They're aware people quit out when they see others play guardian and raider and they want to buff them and mention new weapons along side it.
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aaa
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>>549622774
I did a fist scholar run and it was amazing. 10/10 spiked fists bleeding with several succ negations. We rolled Greg.
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So I'm currently doing Guardian's Remembrance and I just discovered that they retroactively added segments to include Scholar and Undertaker in one of his journal chapters. I checked old vids of his remembrance quest and these bits didn't exist until now. I wonder if they added anything else in other character's journals.
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gg dragon
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>>549622509
Ninvaders is the only line that you have to gamble for and that is only for depths meta so lategame content. If you have to roll for it because you never got it once then you have terribad luck unlike any other. Frost, poison, holy have set relics, the other elements might too.
I'm more on your side about the system being ass when you get into goofy builds like ISAx6 or any gimmick being stacked a bunch really. I literally wouldn't care at all if I looked at a teammates relics and saw he cheated in a build that the relic system makes hard to make functional. Slapping 2 nightlord relics and a shop relic on is different than trying to put 3 ISA relics with good lines on them. Still think you should try to make due with what you have instead of cheating but cheat if you have to.

If you don't troll or throw during the match out of babby rage I'd have no reason to think less of a cheater in a co-op game.
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>>549623227
They did. And then made the newbies have their stories about how they paired off to be secretive about themselves unlike the rest of the group. Iron Menial implies they've done this before, and that all the nightfarers may have forgotten more as well.
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>>549623227
did they do this to every remembrance? do i have to replay it all?
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>>549623651
cheated
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>>549623585
Characters will say their stock dialogue in remembrances unless they are remembrance specific and the 2 new characters never are in old remembrances. Go re-read everyone's journal though, they are brought up in them like they've been there the whole time. Guess they have if you think about it.
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dreg 2/3
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>>549622509
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did anyone test if you can ult cheese the towers top floor with two undertaker?
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what is your strategy for mystery niggas? i pretty much just make sure i have a fire/holy weapon. try to have a lightning one as well but they are not as reliable to find. from there i just worry about passives or powerful weapons that work on everything
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>>549624085
have 1 LLTBT and thats it
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>>549624085
Pick wylder for safety and try to cover as many elements in purple gear as possible. Bleed is backup, plan on poison/rot from teammates. Fight the boss like you own his bussy.
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>>549624085
check my list after the night 1 fight to see if I can narrow it down
always bring holy though since Heolstor can have any boss before him
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>the discord is just my blocklist
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>>549624537
You have 30 people blocked? I only have terr.
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Is terr in discord?
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>>549622643
here, wylder's getting hit by the icicles. stfu about games you haven't played.
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i have joined the dark side, see what you guys did
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>>549624446
im not the least bit surprised honestly
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spoopy
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>>549622643
lol
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>>549624685
no one has used the word "tranny" in the discord yet so probably not.
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>>549624692
If i was at my computer i would edit it to some cunny manga.
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>>549623004
Sick. I love both of those guys but recognize their weaknesses so its great to see they're going to get some love. And a relevant side note: I'm really hoping From decides to buff the weaker nightfarers instead of nerfing strong ones. That design philosophy is so much better than the approach other devs take. Like how people say Duchess, Ironeye, and Recluse are top tier and one of the best comps in D4 or D5? Sure, thats fine! Let them be strong. Let the players who play those characters continue to enjoy playing them, don't punish them for being effective. Lets just buff the underperformers to bring them up to speed. Everyone will happier in the end for it.
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>>549625080
Swimsuit issue of the nightgurls
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>>549620635
How would you feel without it?
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lets go kisame
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>>549621189
>>549622509
That’s correct. Let’s just hope this dogshit doesn’t appear in future games because that would be a great way to kill immediate interest.
>>549622438
>>549623004
Where are you getting new weapons from? I don’t remember anything like that being stated
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>>549623570
That's really cool. I gotta say, the remembrances, the interactions with the nightfarers and the shrouded roundtable in general was really well done. I'm more engaged with the characters than I ever thought I would be, in this weird but fun side project of a game. I like how the roundtable is relevant in the endings too.

>>549623651
jealous
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>>549625231
but i did eat breakfast? i dont understand the question
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>>549625053
Terr’s persona in these threads is different from the one he puts on here he hates the general itself hence why he’s always antagonizing everyone and shitposting he’s probably in there just under some name you don’t recognize
>>549619148
You have to restart your device usually that works
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>>549618474
in so confused about what you messed up here
>>549617545
excellent cope junior
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ggs normal libra
ballsy to throw away less likely for a libra fight remenance
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>>549625810
>>in so confused about what you messed up here

i think thats the same guy from yesterday who imported all of this saves over and started throwing a shitfit when people didn't know how or didnt care to help him. achievement hunting is gay as fuck anyways
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>>549625946
forgo
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>>549625946
>>549625952
>>549626082
gg, I usually throw away less likely when I feel the team has enough aoe to kill condemned fast. although I really don't feel good playing scholar so far.
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>>549625658
>Terr’s persona in these threads is different from the one he puts on here he hates the general itself hence why he’s always antagonizing everyone and shitposting he’s probably in there just under some name you don’t recognize
That's true. He's low key a bit mentally ill so for sure he's on the discord with an alt just reading the chat and seething.
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>>549625810
>excellent cope junior
How is it cope when Ishizaki said that more weapons will be added in the update?
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>>549626198
ah understandable, I gave up on scholar after finishing his remembrance
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>>549624736
we deserve better bait than this
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>>549625483
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>>549624446
Nice. Now post your ass
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>discord
this is how you end up on lists
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>>549627046
Almost every regular is on the discord now. There's a few exceptions like shifty, terr, piqf. But they might be using alts.
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>>549626908
>translated by ai from moon
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>>549627046
The guys that made the discord spam irl child porn when upset they are already on lists. Its good they left so we can get back to normal.
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>>549627213
no the majority of players really aren't
you don't actually play with us
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>>549626908
bro let's be real this was probably a mistranslation just like everything in this god forsaken game
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>>549627482
wtf are you talking about
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list of people not yet in the cringecord? I need to know who's still based
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gg soul of cinder looking ah

sorry for dying to nameless idk why i can never react to the side sweep
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A discord will just stagnate these threads. New people and regulars who get stuff attached to them whether through the game or something they say in the discord wont be able to handle the screenshots or webms and will leave. Hope the thing dies by Christmas but I’m willing to clog the toilet and mass block people desu.
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gg wholestar
actual comedy skit for morgott to invade while i was reviving you guys lol
>>549628028
i'm not in it
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>>549628135
gg
got a nice piece for my eventual dagger build
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>>549627849
Q:现在的深夜模式中守护者和无赖的出场率很低,很多玩家看到这两个角色甚至会直接拔线。像是无赖的双特大跳劈也被削弱了,基于这些情况,制作组会做出什么改善或调整吗?

A:对于玩家在游玩过程中遇到的困难,我们也有一定的认知。我们也会在接下来的更新中尽量去改善。我们希望减少玩家没有发挥空间,只能放弃的状况,例如远程角色在近战层面不利之类的。我们会通过追加装备武器的方式来改善这点

Any chinamen ITT?
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>>549628149
the thread hasn't slowed down at all, though. If anything it brought the community together, which encourages posting.
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you cant bubble parry any of libras non physical attacks, all of them killed me because they have a constant hitbox that usually knock you down
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gg gigagoat cannon of haima is actually goated for revives
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>>549628418
It brought us together when we realized the outside group claims were all true. Anons have been riding high ever since the sisters left.
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>>549628686
I mean why not right
sometimes you might end up with a physical weapon being your best weapon drop though, which you could prepare for by having some phys atk too
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>>549628686
Cute screenshot when you look at it. Good idea for a fun build :)
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???? apparently they seem to have ignored the question about guardian and rogue(raider) and was like the cramped areas make rangedgroid unplayable therefore we'll add new equipment in the future to buff rangedgroids yet again. maybe this translation is retarded but why is it from chinese and not japanese? where did you even read this from?
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>>549628418
It hasn’t slowed down because the dlc released retard. Soon we’ll have password split offs and the dead periods in these threads will last hours without someone taking it upon themselves to bump the thread. Discord is a cancer
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>>549629420
yep
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>>549629449
>Soon we’ll have password split offs
Most of us never use the password because it is full of the discord users.
The purpose of this thread is to post about elden ring games not to play with each other. Playing with each other slows the thread down. Play with your friends then post here when you aren't playing. You fags forgot why 4chan exists we aren't a dating site.
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>>549629605
>4chan has never played with each other
???
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>>549629420
It was an interview with a Chinese website
https://www.gamersky.com/news/202512/2052747.shtml
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>>549629671
Go play with your friends like everyone else does. We aren't your friends.
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gg ED libra
how's caster wylder against him? wondering if i should try out more incant duchess against him
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GG ED Libra
What was that merchant shop lmao. RED BLEED ANTSPUR RAPIER and RED RIVERS OF BLOOD with FP on flask/skill dmg up.
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>>549629449
>Soon we’ll have password split offs and the dead periods in these threads
The discord IS the password faggots. All the "regulars" from before the DLC that act high and mighty because they stuck around after the hype of nightreign wore down, and are now forming faggy cliques.
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>>549629792
gg we punished that goat hard
caster wylder seems pretty solid, those non deep respec relics really helped
Ideally i'd like more FP but luckily wylders base FP is just high enough to somewhat get by without it
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holy CEkino
+550 since i don't play recluse
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>>549629605
Discord is just a psyop from the same person who tried to change the password. It’s a shame retards here have fell for the honey trap because they crave attention
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>>549630087
I know. No one fell for it we all deal with terr all the time.
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>>549628028
Not in it either, discords kinda cringe
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>>549629420
Raider's dual wield jump attack got nerfed? Uhhhhhhhhhhh based?
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>>549629605
>You fags forgot why 4chan exists we aren't a dating site.
The duality of man. How do you spit complete and utter nonsense and then end in the mother of all TRVKEs?
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>>549629983
post build pls i wanna try caster wylder again
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>>549628028
i'm not
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>>549629983
Is this D5? Might try Caster Wylder myself.
What does he have a higher stat in after respec, INT or FAI?
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>>549628028
I'm not in it.
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>>549628028
won't be partaking this time, the real discord came and went
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>>549630294
Only the stagger damage
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>>549630313
who are yu
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>>549630243
>>549630313
I'll join if these 2 join
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>>549628994
balancers are great. story, design and the boss fight itself. there's been a somewhat lack of outright neutral forces in the soulsborne games too.

better fight than malenia (no shitty waterfowl), but not as good as messmer overall.
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>>549630614
Stupid Wylder removing her buff
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>>549630295
You tell em bronybro
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>shitting up the thread about how proud you are that you aren't in the discord, while also giving the discord attention because you keep bringing it up
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great game
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this any good?
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>>549630520
Still based. Obviously being Raider and playing him normally is bad in the Depths, but jumping attacks were one of the worst things Elden Ring did. It always looks ridiculous to see a player spam it in either ER or Nightreign. He needs some buffs for Depths players, but it looks like they're going to give him equipment to compensate? Whatever that means.
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>>549622741
Which relic is that?
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>>549628402
>We will improve this by adding more equipment and weapons.
It's the same thing
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>>549631048
Protip: You can jump or otherwise be airborne and activate her ult.
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>>549631021
This. so much this!
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>>549631021
Lots to unpack here. Just let people enjoy things.
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>>549631021
>least obvious discordtroon falseflag
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>>549629996
The top line is actually a detriment. Your dps tanks licking residue more.
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>>549629605
>The purpose of this thread is to post about elden ring games not to play with each other.
Fcs were fun though
And surprisingly while competitive had less notious activity associated for a long time
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>>549631048
Fool me once...
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>>549631095
Damage negation on low hp seems completely pointless unless you get multiple sources of it.
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You'll never find a female playing guardian
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There are actual respec relics? Not just +3 strength relics? I haven't attained any. Strength Duchess calls to me.
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>>549630243
It's not that different than playing on the password with your steam partner. I don't know why it's more cringe to also have a discord.
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>>549629420
They didn't ignore it, they answered with an implied statement. It's a language thing, English is more literal. What they imply is
>We know some characters suck or have situations that make the feel absolutely stuck with no recourse, like ranged in unavoidable melee.
Translating literally missed this.
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>Scholar is just a better Guardian
Birdbros............when will it be our time?
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>>549631638
You don't play recluse?

>>549629420
Rogue is ironeye
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>>549631937
>Rogue is ironeye
How can you think this? How can someone be that wrong?
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>>549630684
agree, liked the balancers alot.
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>>549631773
>>549631937
wtf? There is no situation Ironeye is not good in. Games journalism strikes again.
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>>549629420
So they're going to buff ranked characters even more and nerf guardian and rogue
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>>549631048
Lmao that same exact thing happened to me last night. Not a huge deal, but like the other anon said, jumping then activating your ult helps in these situations
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>>549632105
Again they're not talking about iron eye, recluse is a ranged character too, as are some duchess and rev builds. Recluse in the basement against an RR comes to mind; much harder for the baseline player.
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Time to rebuild chalices from the ground up so I'm looking for build templates from main players for all characters. Right now I have a normal and a depth setup for each character so I'm looking for more niche stuff.
Respec builds, status builds, even your terrible dormant power builds. Give them me!
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they should start by combining Improved Guarding and Improved Guard Counters
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>>549632181
Yes, melee ironeye is a thing that they don't like.
Prepare for ranged damage up passives going from 7-10-14 to 30-40-50
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>>549632105
Ironeye reminds me of trump. It's the guy the jews will rig everything for so he can never lose anything.
They're gonna buff him even more. They think everyone hates ironeye.
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>>549631713
Yeah, I have a bunch of Duchess "Improved Vig and Str, Reduced Mind" relics. They're deep relics though, no idea if there are non-deep versions of it
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>>549631670
No shit. It’s the designated street shitter class.
>>549626908
>Gsky
Bro isn’t this the interview translated from Chinese to Japanese to English I don’t trust this for a second
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>>549632294
Rogue is usually the thief character with a dagger.
Ironeye is the thief with his dagger slash x mark the spot.
They think people leave the game the moment they see guardian and that ironeye is weak in melee so they will buff him.
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>The gap in generations has grown vast enough that nobody has drawn Undertaker as Undertaker
>>549632351
Would this finally make Guardian viable?
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gg mega calico

terr say gg?
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>>549632402
>no idea if there are non-deep versions of it
there's a guaranteed non-deep version from the signboard after killing dreglord, can't roll it naturally on non-deep tho
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>>549631937
>>549632086
>>549632105
I don't know Chinese but I do know Japanese and Raider in Japanese is buraikan which translate to more like rogue or ruffian than raider. They are definitely talking about Raider here.

>>549631773
Yeah this seems more likely, either way this implies there will be more equipment added in a future update
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>>549632562
GG (not him)
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bg
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>>549632689
thx for the run!
i lowkey kicked its ass there ngl, fire star fists my beloved, mfw
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It's simple. I see Ironeye, I hoard items with projectile damage buffs and throw them away when he isn't looking. If I wanted an easy mode, I'd play another game.
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>>549631937
I don't play recluse, caster is a woman playstyle.
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>>549632328
ED Gladius and heolstor remover
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>>549632554
Rogue is Raider. You didn't read the part about Rogue(Raider) jump attack stance damage with two weapons being nerfed? It's also in the patch notes. Ironeye doesn't spam two collosal weapons and jump attacks.

Rogue is Renegade is Raider is Pirate

Ironeye is Assassin is Sellsword is Ninja

There's some overlap in they're both naughty, but two separate connotations.
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>>549632798
Do you look like this?
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>>549631713
there you go >>549632565
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>>549632875
Liar you don't do this
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dormant weapons relics give priority to the leftmost, is that right?
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>>549631874
He's not like guardian, he's like executor and ironeye.
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gg dreg
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>>549633050
Yes
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>>549632601
cum blood hickey
SEXO
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>>549632351
I like this idea. I wish I could buy a relic that had Improved Guard Counters, Guarding Restores HP and Guarding Improves Ult Gauge on a relic so I could put it on either executor or guardian. Would be so convenient
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>>549597323
did you let them?
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>>549632983
They really disrespected vikings by making the raider shit
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>>549633224
Bro raider is Phoenician, not a Scandi. He's not fair skinned at all
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any pro gramers wann queue d5
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How's the invasions scene doing these days?
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Are there drops from depths that work in the normal expeditions or is all depths stuff for the depths only?
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>>549632351
Why should all the guardians wait for the bosses to attack to do damage?

>>549632558
I did but these zoomers didn't react
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>>549633224
He's a (((sea peoples))) phoenician protokike.
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>>549632328
I have:
>Fire whip faith duchess for bugs and Caligo.
Two fire whips with ashes that delete them. Ice dragon peak helps find the giants braid
>Holy Reaper Faith Duchess for dogs, Libra, and Greg
Rings of light and bleed go brrrr
>Stave Duchess with Katana FP regen
Moonveil spam as back up
>Katana Bell Scholar
ding ding ding rivers of blood
>Rot Scholar
Title, but also has lots of defeating enemies charges ult. This in DoN gets us to 14-15 so easy and snowballs the days.

Then I have the basic lighting rev, magic recluse, all the guard stuff guardian etc
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>>549633224
He was in his own tier of goated before depths came out though
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>>549633380
It’s okay in the meme areas. Slow anywhere else.
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>>549633462
The respec relics show up in the collector board when you beat a depth for the first time. Don't know if/how the dormant powers show up on normals.
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>>549633668
ggs gnoster
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>>549631937
Ah yes, Ironeye with his famous "double super jump slash"
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>>549633668
gg shame to waste a marias on regular
also one of the few times a greatbow is perfect, was doing about 6k per rain of arrows lmao
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>>549632558
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>>549632893
what do you do if you miss the reaper?
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>>549633594
Everyone is goated in D0. Raider is not really better than others and he still has the worst ult.
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>>549632558
Who??
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>>549633224
raider is fine, it's just that everyone else is just better. guardian is the only irredeemably shit character
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>Having fun with Beast Claw Revenant
>Have a build with Bestial Incantations x4, start with Beast Claw, Physical Attack +8
>Doing 686 damage
>Build also has Dormant Power Twinblades, whatever because I'm only using Beast Claw
>Get new start with Beast Claw that has 3+ Twinblades increases power
>Goes from 686 to 821 with 3 Twinblades
>Make new build and now it has Family Buffs Revenant
>With Fred out I'm doing 904
RNG works in mysterious ways.
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>>549632558
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>>549633820
You play with whatever is the best holy weapon you have. This is not an issue specific to this build. Every build can miss their weapons.
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>>549634131
magic can't
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>>549634040
Raider is trash with a grief ult. He's only good in D0 where the game is so easy it doesn't matter.

Executor ult is a suicide button in DoN

At least guardian has a STR relic to contribute. Staying alive is more DPS than spending half the match stopping raiders from kicking the floor.
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>>549634208
Yes they can. I can carry my starter thru the whole game too if I want bro.
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>>549625959
yeah i never saw the appeal in doing that junk either i guess it’s a good way to pass time…?
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>>549633369
only if you show me your asshole first
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>>549630301
sure, I've got a similar build for magic
might also try a physical caster build and fish for bestial incants
>>549630415
its equal FTH/INT so i go affinity so I can use whatever i find ( although I run dormant seals )
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>>549634208
I am going to rape you
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Does anyone know if you can buy boosters who boost your account to depths 5?
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>>549634334
i'll happily fight ED dogs with a blue pebble staff
can you say the same about a blue sacred blade weapon?
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>>549634334
No they can't, worst case you use pebble which can still easily do 500+ damage with the standard builds
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>>549634582
Yeah. Dogs are fun to dance on.
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>>549634073
that's hilarious
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We must destroy the erg. Baker show them why I made you! >;)
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1/3 don
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>>549634760
but i'm great eepe
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Sorry guys that wasn’t my best performance we could have won that if I was better
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>>549634070
How strong is the "carrying +3 types of X weapon type" increases attack power anyways?

>>549634473
Yeah, when you're young and have a stupid amount of free time so it makes sense. But I'm older and really value my time, hunting down pointless metrics in games that no one gives a fuck about, and aren't even fun to do most of the time, is NOT how I want to spend my precious free time.
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>>549634760
>>549634804
well 3/3 now
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>>549634297
>At least guardian has a STR relic to contribute
well you see, this is why guardian is shit, he NEEDS relics not to be shit, everyone else unlocks an alternate playstyle or a boost to their main playstyle with relics but still function well without them, but not guardian, he needs literal godrolls not to be useless.

>Staying alive is more DPS than spending half the match stopping raiders from kicking the floor.
everyone else has better chances at staying alive than guardian because they don't have a shit dodge and they're never at risk of being guard-broken or dead-angled.
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>>549634490
Do you know what the % is for reduced rune acquisition? I have it on one of my favorite setups and it makes me sad
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4/3 now
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>>549634865
You really messed that up. That was really bad.
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>>549635049
zamn unc got filtered
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>>549635049
holy lmao guardian bros response????
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>>549635049
depressing webm, good reminder for me as to why i havent played guardian in DoN at all
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>>549635137
>>549634865
NAMES???
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>>549635049
>needs literal godrolls not to be useless.
No, you can just buy that relic.
>Dead angles
Learn to parrypoke and even Fulghors goo arm won't kill you. Which does more damage than normal pokes btw.
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What triggered him this time?
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>>549635049
>Terrible player making terrible plays
So much went wrong that they had full control over. I don't care who they were playing as, they weren't thinking.
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They should make a playable dragon priestess like that one SOTE lady
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>>549635256
>Learn to parrypoke and even Fulghors goo arm won't kill you. Which does more damage than normal pokes btw.

I've read about this, is shield poking really the solution to being dead angled? Do you find that stamina management is difficult when you have to poke just to not get hit in a stupid way?
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>>549634920
>How strong is the "carrying +3 types of X weapon type" increases attack power anyways?
Seems to be 18%
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>>549635059
its like 15%, not great but i can live with it
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>>549634490
holy cheat engine
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>Trish and Zorban fighting in the discord
This is the drama I wanted
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>>549635618
holy fucking shit im putting that shit back on
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>>549635049
I mean he's fighting a red shield knight in the rain with 1 flask left and a blue weapon at lv7 by himself, if you don't have ults no other character has a good chance of winning that either.
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>>549634920
>>549635618
The google doc says 20%. I just checked. So a pretty big jump. That's 4 gaols or 3 night invaers.
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>>549635783
>>549635810
idk that's pretty restrictive
most of the time my inventory is maybe 2 of my preferred weapon and the rest random stuff
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>no Sister Adella skin for undertaker
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>>549635810
We need a nice list of what types of passive lines have that type of equivalence so people will get off the ningaol meta without feeling bad.
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>the discord is actually active
Thanks trish
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>>549635605
When you poke you tilt your shield up against taller enemies and block much better, yes. Just blocking is way worse. Any amount of stamina on hits helps you spam it. Otherwise be conservative during big combos. Thrusting counter attack dormants help a lot with DPS. There are also bosses you can two hand the weapon and take the worse block, like the magma wyrm spin attack, for yet more DPS.
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>>549635978
on executor i get +3 katanas on pretty much every run. but you're right it is a bit restrictive because then i start ignoring passives i might otherwise pickup
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>>549635754
Screenshots please
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2/3 DLC
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>>549635990
Vicar Amelia would be better
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>>549636086
>be conservative during big combos.
More on this, using a little extra stamina is always better than getting slapped from above and getting chunked or downed regardless of how much you have left.
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>>549635990
>>549636474
Her default skin is basically a mix of white and black church hunter attire anyways, then she looks like freiede when she activates her skill.
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GG fulghor
I didn't know he could do his slingshot four times in a row
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>>549635978
3+ is restrictive indeed. I just thought it was a funny coincidence that the one part of my build I didn't care for, the twin blades, synergized perfectly with my new Beast Claw relic.
>>549636004
That would be nice. I started thinking that way when I picked 2x Bestial Incantations over goal and night invader. I would have to do 2 invaders and 2 gaols to do similar damage and there are plenty of runs where my team ignores both, so I'd rather have the consistent 24% damage than maybe get 10-15% more. After all in my experience, if we're breezing through gaols and night invaders, we're already shitting out tons of damage and so the extra amount won't make the run that much different. However, the consistent 24% will always help me even when I have horrible games where we skip all the best loot spots.
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>>549636278
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gg horse, i had so much fun there as a rev with no full hp negation.
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>>549636732
based trish
never let str*amers gaslight you
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>>549635978
Think of it as 3 weapons that have +6.66% damage.
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>>549636919
yeah but it takes up a relic line, the same relic line that has other damage options aka the most important relic line
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>>549636732
Zorban its time to activate your racism
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>>549636732
So based
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>>549636732
they love each other right
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Explains a lot really
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>>549636732
thanks anon
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>>549637039
I wouldn't build around 3+ intentionally but it's better than no damage do you don't have better.
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>>549637528
still would. Maybe.
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>>549636732
cute couple
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>>549636732
i'm actually glad we have a containment discord now.
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>>549636732
There was literally only one post about Trish pointing down at Zorban and Trish is saying it made "the whole tread [sic] schizo out". He's making such a big deal out of literally nothing.
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>>549628418
It has slowed down though. A week ago we were going through like 4 threads a day and now we’re almost back to pre-dlc levels. Which is good. The quality of these threads and 4chan threads in general is heavily correlated to how many autists are shitting it up
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>>549636732
It's a shame you can't see trish's spergout in the vod's chat because zorban banned him, he didn't "just point down" he had a total meltdown.
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who are you people
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>>549637781
the discord will help the thread because it'll focus more on nightreign, whereas the social clique bullshit will probably be in the discord more often. It's like a containment board.
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>complains about discord in the thread
>brings discord to the thread
Wow. I added you all to my “friends” list for being so cool!
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>>549637876
today i'm guardian
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>>549633594
To be fair he got hit with a nerf right as the Depths dropped, which made him shit for staggering when he used to be the best.
There's genuinely no point in playing the class anymore Because Depths was made to reward offensive characters more than defensive ones.

Just compare Undertaker who never needs to get hit and has a kit that helps you to never get hit, and just gets 40s+ damage bonuses from attacking and spamming ults, vs Raider who is forced to trade with Depth 5 Red bosses to get meager 10% damage boosts that last for 10 seconds.
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>>549637851
shut up zorban i didn't shit i say i was like "relax it was just a joke" and u banned me, lying ass
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>>549637915
That’s not how it works. This general just becomes an extension of the discord chat and is used as a false flag operation by namedags against namefags until we see a resurgence of tripfags
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>>549638009
i wonder how much you can dmg debuff a boss with raider, scholar, and whoever else has a build in debuff
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>>549638115
I choose to believe trish because I wish to creampie her.
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>>549637039
>>549637576
It's definitely not something to actively seek out, but when 2 things synergize coincidentally like my dormant twinblades and 3+ twinblades there's no reason not to do it if the moment arises. That's personally how I view all 3+ relics. I have a lot of 3+ seals increase max FP relics. It's very good early game when you don't have a lot of power and so you need to cast spells more often. As the game goes on and you get more shards, more FP and more power, you don't need it and you can ditch the seals. That's kind of how I would do it with the twinblades. I'm going to be getting them anyway so instead of picking some random stamina upgrade I could grab 3 twinblades until I get 1 charged incantation +18% and then drop them. And if I get absolute trash the entire run, at least I know I can makeshift 20% damage out of them.
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trish
triiiiiiish
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>>549603307
I got a duchess faith respec with incantations +2. But the debuff is resistances so yeah untakeable
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It's ok to point down the teammate who 3bar against tiny horse
This is just a delicate way of saying "it's time to stop making sexual intercourse with the floor"
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>>549638161
Raider's debuff is too unreliable, it lasts 10 seconds and you need to hit with the second part of the skill that takes 3-5 seconds to come out, while being at melee range.
Also because it only applies during the punch that happens at the end of the skill, it doesn't even help Raider to trade during it.
Genuinely one of the most useless skill passives in the game.
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>>549636732
Why did no one tell me Zorban was based... wtf
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>>549638627
t. zorban
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>>549637851
I've got this but I don't have the original spergout
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>>549638618
>Genuinely one of the most useless skill passives in the game.
it charges successive attacks/negation instantly so at least there's that
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>>549638715
> YOU BLOCK ME WHY YOU BLOCK ME MOTHER BITCH
>YOU BLOODY BENCHOD REDEEM UNBLOCK NOW
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>>549638815
oh thats good to know
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nt libra, why was there a raider condemned instead of a revenant
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>>549638923
um.... did you not watch the video?
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nt libra. shifty can you please stop twirling?
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>>549638564
sometimes i need the negative reinforcement if i do some dumb shit like pick up a greatbow
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>>549639071
>haven't seen shifty twirl in weeks
I'm down BAD.
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>>549639002
gbow wylder, raider godfrey, tooting nun. what a combo.
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>>549639071
twirling?
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>>549638127
sadly i think you are right but since the discord is made for 'vets' to play with no tourists, i have an inkling of hope that they actually fuck off from erg and just play with their own clique so we don't have to deal with this group chat drama.
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Shiftyduck...
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>>549631021
I laughed cant lie
>>549632558
No shit wrestling is gay and for man children
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>>549639315
That's how I look.
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>>549639002
>>549639071
Name?s?
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>>549639356
name? for the bad erg bitches list?
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>>549639008
: )
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>>549638816
It’s crazy how it sounds exactly like that
>>549638271
*him
>>549636732
Wow lovely blogpost great video game discussion!!!
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>>549639003
nah, and i dont know what video you are even referring to
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>>549639315
Nasty
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>>549639361
nyo
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>>549639008
KEK
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im sorry for being afk my grandma fell down the stairs
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>>549639561
https://youtu.be/ch9PgE6qU80
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>>549636732
Why is that guy pretending to be an anime girl?
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>>549634738
>Baker
>>549633517
Phoenicians were different from j*** though
>>549633326
At the same time he’s dark for that too
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>>549639071
shiftysissy is asking for it
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>>549639739
inshallah shes fine
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>>549628028
I'm not, and have never played with any of your fags before, either. I also lose a lot.
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Sacred Claymore is my white whale but I don't have a way to try and get greatswords to drop more without sacrificing my good relics so I'm just like rawdogging the luck and getting mad that it's not working
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>>549639561
You dont need to watch videos the game isnt that complicated and fagtubers are usually wrong anyway.
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>>549631163
>Increase Strength and Dexterity; Reduce Vigor
>+3 Str
>+3 Dex
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>>549640347
Just play Wylder retard
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>>549640654
The problem with it being on a regular slot means you either give up block reflect/increased duration or you find one of those relics on night invader and then put the missing relic on the third slot.
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>>549622741
>>549631163
>>549640654
Just play Wylder retard
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>>549640690
He overrides the moveset of the claymore which is the whole reason I like it
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GG Practice.
Kept Libra frosted more than half the fight. Could've done ED too with 2 RoBs.
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MUSH ARE YOU OK?
>>549617308
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>>549636732
Ok joining so I can groom this menhera
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>>549638715
>>549638816
SAARS YOU MADARCHOD I FUCK YOU BLOODY
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remance its starting again... i couldnt bs them because they keep spinning around...
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lol that a first.
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oof
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>>549640992
ewww wtf
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>>549624537
This nigga gets no erg games
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>>549640992
I don't want to click on that but I want to laugh at the chaser...
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>>549640992

this mushjeet nigga is beyond saving
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>>549640992
I couldn't tell whether that was /mhg/ or /xivg/
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>>549630243
You're a cringe tranny thoughbeit
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>>549640992
jfc
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>>549640992
why do poojets do this?
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>>549636004
New map already does that. Having a 50/50 shot at having one of your damage modifier relic skills be completely worthless has turned it into a gamble.
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>>549640992
not clicking, what colour is it?
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>>549641071
ehh dunno not that much laggy for me this time. but guess today is not my day best I am out.
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>>549626908
>talk about guardian and raider
>immediately mention ironeye
so the dev are shitters who only play ironeye, lmao
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>>549640796
Wylder is shit with shields, and doesn't give a free DPS window to absorb big AoE hits.
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>>549640992
Mushjeet moment
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>>549631021
blew cc, shiftytroon and other avatarfags the fuck out
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>>549639846
I look like this
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>>549640772
Increased Duration is a meme. No point keeping assholes locked in a whirlwind when you kill them faster than the extended skill animation plays.
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>>549640979
nice discord chat
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>>549642207
The extended duration keeps banished knights and beast brigade locked down for the duration. It's pretty good.
Does a nice job of deflecting enemy projectiles too
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>>549641948
My Wylder with a good shield is a better Guardian.
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erg lost
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>>549641071
>>549641615
nyoooooooooom
look at him go!
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>>549604327
This with twinblades or fists goes crazy style
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>>549642391
>easy enemies are now easier
Meanwhile over here with more DEEPS, harder enemies die faster. Not a really a contest, now is it?
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>>549590541
Kind of a pacing issue.

Most people will boot up dlc pick a new character and new boss. This will almost certainly put them on a new map with a 0% chance of success
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>>549641948
No he's not. Just don't hold them up 24/7 like a zdps retsrd. No idea what your second point is supposed to be about it sounds like some retarded cope
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>>549640979
why deleted
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>>549640992
Why are bangladeshi men like this?
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>>549643006
global rule 15
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>>549642903
Oh you're just shitposting, nvm carry on anon.
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New thread now pls
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can I talk about dark souls games here
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>>549644180
Yes
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I dropped my starting katana that I upgraded to +2 in that redmane camp..
It was lost in the grass so I couldn't even see it. I am glad we went back there.
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>>549643916
I’m baking rn just adding discord link…
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>>549645975
>>549645975
>>549645975
Go
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>>549645992
>>549645992
>>549645992
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>>549590071
Nu-artorias is so fucking funny
>all his old moves are easily dodgeable by just reacting
>all his new moves you need to learn the timings because they're the retarded elden ring style of animation where you can't tell when the swing is happening from the windup
cool
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>>549646000
Real and checked
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>>549646038
>making a second thread just to shill your erp discord
kys
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gg mistery augur. weird boss, i was expecting heolstor or something. gg undertaker you did great!
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>>549590071
He would need to be completely remade from scratch, Having a corrupted on armed Artorias fight next to Sif is dumb.
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>>549646504
>>549646613
i was also thinking of heolstor kek
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>>549639846
>>549642167
That’s hot
>>549640690
>>549640796
Trvth
>>549643104
You tell us terr
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>can't buffer the switch between one and two handing because it uses the same button as attack and the game always buffers an attack even when you just wanted to toggle

>literally need frame perfect inputs if you want to efficiently switch between one and two hand while trying to dodge

>cant even rebind 2hand toggle because the devs are too fucking retarded to implement even the most basic features

>all of this retardation in what is supposedly the greatest game ever made


holy fuck i hate videogames
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this thread will be remembered as a dsg victory



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