BAI GAWD Edition>Update 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0>November Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/308-november-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>549143202
First for the ultimate weapon of the Imperium.
The problem with this game in general is that the harder difficulties don't feel "fun" difficult but more "random bs" difficult. Most of the time I get through a hard weekly it doesn't feel like I got by with skill, but with luck, and I have played this game since release. Slipping up once because I miss timed a perfect dodge because some chaos spawns decided to throw a blockable and unblockable at the same time and losing all my health and armor in 1 second isn't fun to me
>>549615779You can blame that idiocy on the dude who's coming up with these ideas and greenlighting them at the same time AKA Dmitry "No Fun Allowed" Grigorenko, Game director for SM2. Seriously, read the least 3 or 4 community updates where he chimes in, he's obsessed with taking power away from players and is hell bent on fucking up your day exactly by throwing random unbalanced shit at you. I mean we don't need to look too far away, heroic weapons on PTS were all good and once they realized that they were nerfed because we can't have someone do well on absolute+ now do we? Sure PF and TH are still pretty good but I'm trying to shed some light on the mindset of the man behind these decisions.
>>549616197>Dmitry "No Fun Allowed" Grigorenko, Game director for SM2kek, somebody should call him out on that
>>549613517Most egregiously it can go through walls, so you have these orbs and rape beams that encourage you to break line of sight, but simultaneously you have to keep a close eye on it along with everything else getting thrown at you to watch for the tell (the sound queue is identical to another attack) that it's about to start sending out waves.Solution: Be a Tactical with a Stalker Bolter so you don't have to interact with it's mechanics.
>>549616197Serious question, what's the point of difficulties if you want guns to have the same performance across the board? If he didn't police performance I literally LITERALLY couldn't select a higher difficulty if I wanted my guns to 2 shot enemies instead of 1 shotting them.
>>549618343>what's the point of difficulties if you want guns to have the same performance across the board?Difficulty should control the density of enemies and the stinginess of resources, and nothing else. Every good game with a solid grasp of its own mechanics does this, especially horde shooters.
Can you headshot with any of the plasma weapon? Also what can you do with those purple currency you earn from completing ordeals?
>>549618480>Can you headshot with any of the plasma weapon? No>Also what can you do with those purple currency you earn from completing ordeals?Go to the datavault and unlock lore entries. Unlocking enough of them unlocks a few cosmetics.
>>549618454What a load of bullshit. There isn't a single horde shooter that doesnt scale enemy health and damage as well as density with difficulty.
>>549618480>Can you headshot with any of the plasma weaponno. the good news is you don't need to. plasma weapons don't have the 75% bodyshot penalty bolt weapons have.
>>549618480>Can you headshot with any of the plasma weapon?The various bolters are the only ones that get headshots. Not like it matters, Plasma is generally strong in this game>Also what can you do with those purple currency you earn from completing ordeals?Lore blurbs and some cosmetics
>>549618648>>549619026So I can run plasma pistol + heavy plasma on Heavy and don't have to worry about aiming at all while still doing good damage?
>>549619135no.1) thropes will eat your ass2) you have to actively aim at the ground instead of enemies to maximize aoe damage, you'll find it harder than you expect.
>>549619135I prefer carrying the opposite of what the primary is. Bolter primary gets the Plasma/Inferno pistol, Plasma/Melta gets a Bolter pistol
>>549615779It is a system perfectly designed to get people to stop playing your game. Stratagems are too difficulty, poorly done, and janky to be fun for their own sake, while also not being rewarding enough to force people to do them. So not only are they unfun but they are also not worth doing. Speaking of, I see that Split Up is in the new weekly, which I will once again be ignoring since it doesn't matter if I get the ugly caped shoulder this week or next.Stratagems and Siege Mode both ended up being such flops that I've become mildly conspiratorial about them purposefully sabotaging their own product.
>>549620451>Stratagems and Siege Mode both ended up being such flops that I've become mildly conspiratorial about them purposefully sabotaging their own product.fairly believable from a bunch of risible slavs who don't want to work and don't understand why people keep asking them to do their jobs
>>549618598You don't play enough horde shooters, because Left 4 Dead which is still one of the biggest horde shooters on the market doesn't touch enemy health per difficulty level in the slightest.
>>549618598>There isn't a single horde shooter that doesnt scale enemy health and damage as well as density with difficulty.It spawns different variations of the same enemy with visibly higher levels of armor, but the HP pools remain untouched between D1 and D10.
>>549618598My man, you definitely need to look beyond SM2. Horde shooters absolutely prioritize scaling enemy density over buffing their hp, which doesn't happen btw because that'd be retarded.
>>549621512>>549621745Epic
Ok, but why do >we keep playing this game over other horde shooters?
>>549616197>he's obsessed with taking power away from playersI've noticed this is a pattern with game devs lately for horde shooters. HD2 did the same thing
>>549618598Payday 3 doesn't increase health. And between the last two or three difficulties payday 2 doesn't either.
>>549622083I'm noticing you didn't quote the Helldivers 2 poster, because you know you're wrong there.
>>549619135Against Terminus bosses you still need to aim at them directly or maximum damage.
>>549624038I haven't played those games enough to know so I don't have an opinion to share, I'll give you a list of games that I have played that do exactly what I said.Left 4 Dead 1/2Earth Defense Force 2017/4.1/5Darktide/Vermintide 1/2Killing FloorDeep Rock GalacticRisk of Rain 1/2 (suppose it's debatable)Alien SwarmRed Solstice 2
slapping my cock on the table to say it doesn't matter if other games did it or not, it's a shit mechanic to tie health to difficulty. you're not testing my game knowledge or skillset, you're just fucking with health and damage numbers to create an arbitrary difficulty wall that makes all knowledge prior to it worthless.space marine 2 = nobody measures ttk on enemies beneath absolute, so a lot of resources regarding weapons and critique of balance becoming alien to people not playing on absolute. it also leads to a lot of noob traps where X thing works on medium but is dogshit on higher diffs. this is why you get people saying the e.g. heavy bolt rifle is a good gun, and then get their cheeks clapped when they move on up to higher diffs.
Infinitely scaling health and damage is something from Diablo or an MMO, and only makes sense in a game with gear progression. Stratagem conditions were lifted wholesale from the WoW Mythic+ affix system. Weapons have color-coded rarities like an RPG, there are multiple currencies, and so forth.My point is, they let too many non-shooter mechanics into their shooter. The core combat is what makes this game so good and why I keep playing it, but the systems they put around it suck fucking cock. Progression is bad, rewards are bad, post-launch incentives to retain players have all been bad (I max-prestiged all classes long ago and still think it was a waste of time). But the combat is still fun goddamnit and I still like running Operaitons just for the hell of it. HD2 for instance has better progression, diverse maps, more guns, more to do, but I don't like the core gameplay so it doesn't matter.
>>549626285Boring progression is one thing, but having to run easy difficulties again just because you prestiged is just mind-numbing
>ranged damage is stronger>you need to split up to regenerate HP and armour>Assault and Bulwark >also always sticking togetherLe sigh
That sweet tacit admission
>perfect parry and dodge every attack>AI decides to do a normal and an unblockable at the same time>dieFun game, love losing missions to things that have no counter. Could have spared me the time and just not let me start it in the first place
Heroic bolt sniper rifle will oneshot Zoanthropes even without cloaking in this weekly's stratagem.Just sniped 2 in seconds.
>>549627000>>549628530>mfw my sniper can't aim for shitit's ogre
>>549628595Only use the gun against Tyranids, practice on regular Absolute or even Ruthless until you get muscle memory; adjust mouse sensitivity you don't need to be a CSGO tryhard.It gets hard countered by Chaos Spawn, not worth bringing it on Chaos maps.
>>549625274>>549626285That pretty much sums up my feelings on SM2. Especially the part about making artificial difficulty a'la MMMORPG, that is particularly bullshit for a shooter game.
>>549628530It already does that a lot of the time in operations.
>>549628309>Could have dodged
>>549629031>just dodge the staggered attackseat shit Dimitry
>>549629287COULD HAVE DODGED NIGGA
>>549628789It can do extremely well against chaos if you're absolutely on top of everything.
>>549628881I think maybe in this case they had no valid place to land
are certain combos unblockable/parryable when playing heavy?
>>549630330I get the sense that the warrior with the whip is either unblockable or just very tight in terms of timing
>>549631018yeah the 2nd hit always seems to hit me.Same for the ravener 3 hit combo,second hit always seems to hit me cause I'm stuck on the parry animation during the 2nd hit
Heroic hammer or fist?
>>549631583Both are good, but shock hammer is comically overpowered on Assault.
>>549631583Heroic Thunderhammer can create multiple tiny shitter kill zones, even more so if you went the full bottom route that grants extra pounding
>doing new weekly hard strat>leave meds to guy who has a wound and barely any health>uses the "thanks" voice line>"ADMINISTERING STIMS">notice his health didn't move because stims somehow don't work if you're near teammates with this modifierlmayo-ing at Saber's new modifiers
>>549632658why are marines face models in this game so ugly?
>>549632658>playing Saber-curated modifiers at all
>>549633106why is AI so scary?
>>549633106>curated
>>549632658Yeah, it's even more extreme than the old Squad Cohesion mechanic from last year. The condition clearly states "Armour and Contested Health restoration are disabled" but in fact all health gains are turned off, including stimpacks and Vanguard perks and anything else you can think of.Also hilarious that you can't do this stratagem with bots since they obsessively stick close to the player, oh and you can't turn off bots for stratagems.
>>549633328>skibidi zoomers are saying "that's ai" instead of "that's bullshit"the world is healing
>>549633449If only there was a place to post a code to invite likeminded people
is it me or reviving squad members with full health is fucking stronk with randoms that know how to cure mortal wounds?
>>549633368>he doesn't knowNot that moron who checks the boxes knows their synergies or tests them out, but they're most certainly hand-picked.
>>549633580a hardcoded randomly generated list is still a randomly generated list.
>>549632658People don't readThey stick together and there are retards who play melee classes
>>549633548shhh, or you'll wake up the i'm-running-out-of-ammo autist. we keep this a secret.
>>549634036To be fair, the modifier says contested health and armor, not health regain.
>>549634036>who play melee classestfw joining a lobby with TWO assaults.
I beat this weekly on first try though I had a Vanguard and Assault leave because they ate shit too much.Once the Heavy and Tactical came in a Carnifex spawned and the two were competent enough to blast the nigger out of the room.The Neurothrope that spawned way early was easy as a Sniper with the heroic, only took me like 1 cloaked headshot and 3 normal headshots.
What are you guys buying with your weekly blue doritos?
>>549635474Everything. In another 4 weeks of normal + hard weeklies I'll have everything in the store. Add 2-3 more weeks and I will have an extra 1000 saved for whenever the new batch of useless sidegrades drop.
>mfw I have to deal with another group of shittersCome on lads, drop some codes
And lorefags that know what the stub/nub above the actual barrel is for?
>>549636146It's gonna be a long fucking while before we get new rewards based on the roadmap. Like Patch 13 which is Q2 2026.
You know when you hear that weird blast of music in the hanger? Like a triumphant little jingle? Turns out that's the signal that the soup easter egg is active.
>>549637396Post codes and I'll join
>>549637669I'm no expert, but isn't shit like that above the barrel usually a rod and spring housing? Said rod is attached to the shell ejector, so the blast of the round knocks the ejector system back, and then the whole thing feeds the next round?
>hard weekly>Xbox Sniper>rage quits in less than 5 minutes
>>549637669That usually is supposed to house the electronics that interface with the space marine's armor, it gives him a crosshair that tells him exactly where his gun is pointing in his HUD and provides any other information the machine spirit can provide about the gun.Though space marines possess the training and superhuman senses to know that information by feel alone.
>>549637669a camera that links their helmet, basically a fancy laser pointer
>>549637669For Firstborne space marines, lore used to say they were little cameras that linked to their helmets, but now they are just generic Primaris gun-parts. It's meant to be evocative of a gas block regulator but there are no nobs or ports.>>549638604That's what I always thought, that it's like the tube that runs along top an AR barrel, but it's not. I looked it up and Heavy Bolters specifically are electrically powered and cycled. A motor cycles the weapon and feeds new rounds into the chamber, it doesn't use excess gasses from the previous discharge. Every other bolter works that way (which is how real firearms work) but not Heavy ones I guess.
is relic sniper bolt rifle usable without class and weapon perks?
Best vanguard primary? is the heroic one any good?
>>549641035It's very good, Heroic Instigator and the SMG version of the carbine are his best weapons.
I still need to do the weekly so I can afford 2, what to do?
>>549638604>>549639137>>549639375>>549639721Thanks lads, very refreshing not to be called a retard for asking a question like the rest of this god-forsake site
>>549641312How do you cope with the fact Heroic has like half the ammo of the more ammo variant Relic?
>>549643582Hammer for sure xenophase is decent but id get hammer first
Outside of the Deathwatch, who might wield a Xenophase blade? A Blood Raven could steal it cause reddit memes, a Dark Angel might have it because they have rare technology and do whatever they want, but that's about all I can think of.
>>549647761Red Scorpions maybe? And they might be renegade but the Relictors would too.
>>549647761Being the direct servants of the high lords of terra, the minotaurs are allowed to requisition pretty much anything.
>>549647761Maybe Grey Knights? Though they have their own armory seperate from astartes chapters and imperium at large. And when it comes to exotic non-imperium weaponry only Castellan Crowe is using Black Blade of Antwyr.
Brothers am I console phobic if I think console players sucks ass?
>>549654430No you're correct
>>549647761>A Blood Raven could steal
>>549644042Shoot to kill priority threats and not for minoris enemies or melee majoris enemies.
>>549654430All Xbox players are dogshit, they are an autokick/instaban/instant leave for meSome Snoy players are okay and a small sliver are better than most Steam randoms
>>549654430I'm a console player and most of the other console players are awful.
>>549631018>>549631150It’s tight but doable even with balancedI didn’t get the 4-hit whip timing down until I started playing block because that gives you much better feedback on when the hits actually are For the whip warriors it’s:Block - wait - block-block - wait - block
Opinions on the heavy bolt rifle? is it a waste on the heavy?
For the perks that say "kill 7 enemies in rapid succession", how much time are we talking here?>>549654430I'm a console player and I suck as so you're probably onto something here
>>549657379Yes
>>549654683What's the deal with Xbros being so fucking bad?The moment I see a ranged class being played by an xbro I just abort the mission
>Join hard weekly at the finaleDon't mind if I do
>>549659680>Join hard weekly at the finale>still get killedoops my bad! hahahaha for the emperor!
>>549659020I rather play with turd worlders with 200+ ping than any Xnigger.
i wouldnt play this shit if there werent a jetpack class
Why isn't there a chaos spawn execution where the heavy sticks his heavy bolter into his teeth-hole and lets it rip?
>>549659680>retard randoms are still on the spiral staircase fucking around with a ravener and zoan>one dies>other goes down>die just before the elevator to the top by carnifex surrounded by the entirely of hive fleet leviathan because alone>mfw
>>549660934why don't people just rush to the exit?
every second of this game is kino
>>549660673it's a waste that not a single execute animation incorporates a firearm.
bros is going from bulwark to assault a downgrade?
>>549675457>S tierheavy, bulwark>A tiertactical>B tierassault, vanguard>C tiersniperin terms of fun, assault is S tier though. assault with a tactical grenade vending machine and vanguard heal passive is kino. if you no life the game you can beat all difficulties with any class and any set up
Vgh I guess I’ll carry again… Honestly the Heroic Heavy Bolter isn’t that bad I wouldn’t say it’s better than the Accuracy version but it does have better burst damage when you can only get off short bursts when you’re in melee combat, and the lack of spin-up feels nice
Wanting to do the Daily and Weekly Hard Stratagems, joing at code UUU35 if you want.
>>549675767>Sniper Cdo other people agree with this?
I have 40 ping but in game there's massive network lag, is it me or the servers are shitting themselves at the moment?
>>549677549Yes it's a trash class, no ammo, no damage outside of headshot, no horde clearing capabilities and the game is too fucking clunky to headshot reliably on most things, especially on bosses that are not neurothrope
>>549677549all that matters is aoe damage and healing. heavy is the most broken class in the game. bulwark is broken too but he is melee, but then he has healing. tactical is like a worse version of heavy but makes up for it with some abilities like free grenades and auspex. assault is really strong but he is melee and has no healing. vanguard is like a worse version of tactical but he comes with healing, he does have his own aoe damage mini game. sniper has nothing except for ability regen on headshot for the whole team, and he can stagger his allies with a grenade every 30 seconds.
>normal stratagems are too easy>hard stratagems are too hardHELP
>>549647761Exorcists probably wouldn't give a fuck. A lot of their most powerful relics and artifacts are chaos-tainted.
>>549682563I find current Patch 11 Assault to be a win-more class. He has constant free armor regen with the new Heroic Fist and slow degenerating cHP, and that's fantastic if you can stay topped up to full. But the moment you take a big hit and don't immediately recover 90% of it, you're playing with fire until you can get healed. So he pairs great with Vanguard and/or Bulwark, but struggles a lot more with anybody else.
>>549677549Nah, he’s really good even in Absolute+ He’s basically unkillable with his perk that restores all his CHP on cloak and his perks that restore ability charge on headshot, and he’s got great single target damage. He’s got the safest revives in the game, and he’s also got probably the highest skill ceiling with stuff like backstep cloak animation cancelling into melee canceling the cloak and popping a cloaked headshot or a shadow stab These guys: >>549681229 >>549682563 just for the game on Black Friday, you can tell they have no idea what they’re talking about with shit like “aoe damage and healing is all that matters”
>>549688436Brother, I got the game for black friday, got the Sniper to P4, got the heroic sniper and spent a lot of time mastering the rifle and.... I'm thinking about taking the heavy pill, you just hold m1 and everything dies.
qrd on melee Heavy?
Wtf is up with this hard daily reliquary hard strat? The modifiers aren't even that crazy but these flamer rubrics keep facerolling entire groups at a time
>>549689375the problem is the wind up animation for the stomps, you'll get knocked out of it if you arent careful. i think the two mele prestige perks are always worth it for double damage and range
>>549677549Sniper has a pretty high skill floor that ensures any mediocre sniper does next to nothing, he lets you do a lot once you're pretty good.
>>549689375A funny stompah meme that makes you worse than just shooting at stuff >>549689135Oh I absolute love Heavy way more than Sniper, but this idea that newfags are spreading around that Sniper is bad or not viable on Absolute+ is blatantly false Anyone who puts Assault above Sniper on a tier list is a contrarian retard
>>549688436>He’s basically unkillable with his perk that restores all his CHP on cloak and his perks that restore ability charge on headshot, and he’s got great single target damage. He’s got the safest revives in the game,no one is saying sniper isnt the safest. when i first dipped my toes into absolute i used sniper since you can heal when ever you want.>>549689135yes heavy is a meme. if you want to master the game play assault, if you are good with assault then you can play any class.
brother am I pinned here
>join decapitation>plant the explosives section>2 xbox players>both of them with a mortal woundI'm starting to believe the memes...
Broskis, I'm about to try assault for the first time, any tips? also what gun should I use?
>Remove heal banner>Introduce a new AOE heal kit ala DarktideA lot more things in this game need to be team-focused. Personally I think Tactical's ability should have been dropping kits, and you pick whether it's ammo, health or grenades.
>>549677549No lol, you should never run out of ammo if you have the prestige perk, and the las fusil can wipe hordes easily. Combined with an amazing team perk and survivability makes it top tier
>>549692175Plasma Pistol if you want high general damage + staggerBolt Pistol (got buffed) for a decent all-rounder with solid ammo economyHeavy Bolt Pistol if you want the meatiest gun strikes and the highest headshot damageJust be aware, of all the classes, Assault is without a shadow of a doubt the shittiest without levels. All of his best shit is Row 2/Row 3/Prestige.
>>549693027I have both heroic pistols
>>549695463Tri-burst pistol has the best DPS but hungry ammo economy.Silencing heavy bolt pistol has the strongest gunstrike damage, but the absolute most dogshit ammo economy in the game.
>>549695883what the gunstrike damage compared to damage heavy bolt pistol?
>>549675767vanguard to A and I agree
>>54969653420% stronger
>>549696731elaborate
>operations getting boring for me>thinking about uninstalling>try pvp>play 3 hours without a break
>>549698014good damage and basically unkillable but where he lacks is cleave damage.
>>549699178Grapnel execute build gives him some level of cleave which is why it continues to be his best build.
On an infinite loading screen and not sure if I'll get my accolades if the game shits itself. send machine prayers
>>549711049Did it work?
>>549713928it did, praise the omnissiah. I killed the client and logged back in, had the points.
>>549714069That’s good anon
>>549676385>missed the code
>>549684060>be Saber>only play Substantial at most>"hard" is Absolute plus "hard" siege mode wave 11+ debuffs
Boy oh boy do I not feel Sniper as a class. It's strong but I struggle to carry as one, fucking knife as a melee weapon is a travesty.
>>549719026If you’re not playing block knife and/or not going for as many shadow stabs as you can possibly get that’s probably why
>>549719376I am trying to go through the prestige levels and I am on my 3rd go-through. I get what you're saying but holy does losing all of your combat power sucks when you level another prestige for the sniper.
>>549692858>remove a dedicated healing class>by creating another dedicated healing classremember to boost vanguard's healing while you're at it, Grigorenko
>>549625274I actually enjoy using the scoped HBR in absolute runs but even I have to admit that it's pretty shit in comparison to it's competition. The chasm in power between most of the weapons in this game is probably the worst I have ever seen in vidya, and it's not like they don't know they're weak if their retarded incremental percentage damage increases of the bolt weapons is anything to go by, they just don't know how to make them actually worth using over shit like the Stalker, Plasma Incinerator or Pyreblaster.
>>549632658This even extends to armour boosters.
>>549728674The solution is very simple, better minoris clearing. Make them take bodyshots at full damage instead of also requiring headshots. Automatic bolt weapons instantly become more handy as you can make the field safer faster before the majoris move in. It is not always practical to focus solely on (tyranid) majoris.
>>549716363>be Saber>use a completely different naming convention for the difficulties of your challenge mode, basically guaranteeing that anyone who found normal too easy will walk into hard mode unprepared and proceed to get absolutely raped in the ass and piss off their teammates
>spastics For the Emperor spamming every 10 seconds and then looking at me when I don'tONLY WINNERS GET TO PRAISE THE EMPEROR. STOP FUCKING DYING.
>>549729216>Automatic bolt weapons instantly become more handy as you can make the field safer faster before the majoris move inAt the very least the HBR and ABR would probably work as horde clearing specialist weapons due to their high ammo capacity and rate of fire (and they already kinda do fulfil that niche, even if they're not necessarily good enough at it to justify them being so middling against anything stronger). I think the Bolt Rifle should specialise in locking Majoris down by staggering them on consecutive headshots since it's horde clearing kinda sucks cock due to it's low RoF and ammo capacity. At least one of the automatic bolt weapons needs to feel like you're actually firing .75 calibre rocket-propelled rounds by making your target react accordingly, and it may as well be the signature weapon of the titular Space Marines and one of the most iconic weapons in sci-fi. The fact that Saber apparently never prioritised getting the bulk-standard Bolter feeling right before moving onto any of the other weapons is kinda absurd.
>PSNigger takes a relic and a med stimm from our Sniper who was on one wound
Didn't think that becoming a true sniper with the new heroic sniper bolt rifle would be such a fun game of popping heads and ammo conservation. There's a bit of locking the fuck in going on with every shot since you really don't wanna miss those shots, though maybe they should still give some slow way of earning them back by other means. Even if they don't change it's still a fun challenge to get by with.(Controller btw)
>>549735969Some of the enemies in this game have no right to be so fucking spazzy.The tzaangor reinforcement animation is bullshit compared to rubrics and warriors, chaos spawn gallop when everything else gently runs with their heads level.It's like they originally had some idea that animations should be conducive to headshots and then forgot later, like a bunch of other mechanics in this game.
>>549736885Yeah, it's not great for Chaos. I mean sure you can pop them ranged terminators, sorcerers and rubrics, but still...
>>549736885I'm convinced the Chaos Spawn were supposed to be an extremis enemy at some point before they made the panicked decision to use them to fill the melee majoris gap in the Thousand Sons' unit roster. Shit, thinking about it now, all three variants might actually have more elaborate movesets and combos than nearly every extremis in the game, if not all of them.
>>549729776Honestly it's fitting. Normal is normal. Hard is hard.
>>549737929Do they have a cut grab attack?
>>549725643You're mistaken, dumbo. I removed a healing class AND Auspex which is also bad for the game, in exchange for a class who resupplies the team with a perk chosen asset.
>>549730665literally meespecially after they respawn right after an extremely fucking tense moment that shouldn't have been half as hard as it ended up being and they just start doing it like there's anything at all to be satisfied about
>>549742956They're cheering you, ya dense bastard.
>>549692858>remove bulwark's ability to heal>give it to tactical Nigga, you're just shuffling shit around. Every class should have a dedicated healing perk
>>549743189ain't nuthin to be cheerful about
I sometimes think I'm the only person using 'for the emperor' as a response to 'thank you'
>>549743192>Bulwark is now uncrutched for shitters who refuse to use his banner, even Saber has outright said the heal was a mistake and is going to be gutted sooner or later>Removed Auspex, which is likely one of if not the biggest reason Saber is terrified to touch damage numbers>Now Tactical gets a team-based deployable of his choosing, and Bulwark gets to be an armor dispenserSorry anon, if you can't see how this fixes multiple issues, there's not much else to say.
I don't use gestures and never will
>>549743192The reason heal is bad on Bulwark is because it's tied to the banner. It makes people hoard it to a fault, as in now nobody is getting armor in crucial situations, and the healing often comes late. If hypothetically the heal was just its own thing separate from the banner, it would remove the entire fault with how it exists now.
>>549735969>(Controller btw)so you're playing with the aimbot? kek
Just announce the Apothecary after the Techmarine and add Reclusiarch Leandros lastApothecary can mass heal and drop medkits but is only 2 armourReclusiarch Leandros buffs everyone and increases everyone's damage and restores everyone's armour
>>549744170what a strange insult, this is not a twitch shooter.also guess what, if you didn't disable it you're playing with an aimbot too. t: nta
>>549744553thanks for proving my point
>>549744431>Apothecary can mass heal and drop medkits but is only 2 armourThis would remove any failure consequences that aren't getting literally one-shot by a single mistakeSo to keep the game from being too trivial at higher difficulties, even more stuff would have to be made to 100 to 0 you on a failed button pressIt's why current heals are so best-in-slot as isThe game needs a rework for its fundamental combat system for a healing class to function without breaking the meta
>>549746081That it doesn't matter, and that you're just as likely to be "abusing" aim assist too, retard?
>>549753956The game needs a fundamental rework full stop. I feel like a team of anon's could could up with more functional and varied classes.
fellas, what snacks are we eating for the game awards tonight?
>>549762181doritos of course. I only want to know if the next Total War is 40k or not.
>>549632658I don't know why people think that making a static meme slightly animated by adding a fuckton of AI artifacts makes it somehow better.
Haven't played in like 4 months. Is the customization overhaul out yet?
>>549762181I’m gonna be cooking up a nice pot roast with mashed potatoes while watching it if you want some
Not being to regain ANY health when using stimms or even an armor reinforcement when you have teammates near you is some fucking awful condition.
>>549787275I had to deliberately space away from my teammates at all times, this one retard kept trying to fight near me, I don’t think he read the conditions
>>549788304The two bozos I completed the run with were a vanguard and a bulwark. I was a heavy so they thankfully weren't too close to me most of the time but damn did they do no damage because of the condition.
>join a group>it's two imperial fistsMixed feelings
>>549797071I hard carry every hard weekly and all my marines are Fisters
Rank all melee weapons from best to worst
I can't remember the last time I saw a full-yellow Imperial Fist
>>549805921You haven't run into me then
>>549812421Looks good!
SPACE MARINE 2 BROS... JOHN CARPENTER TOXIC COMMANDO IS COMING SOON
>>549815335Y-yay
Not exactly dodging the accusations SW fags.
>>5498057751. Power FistThe rest, who cares.
Suspiciouslt little 40K (read: zero) at the game awards
Total war bros...
>Ultrasmurfs AGAIN
>Ultramarines get TWO franchiseshell yeah
TOTAL WAR ULTRASMURFS LET’S GOOOOOOOOOO
>we're getting ultrasmurfs forever in every space marine game now because they're the most recognizable chapter to anyone>faggot devs behind these almost never include any kind of deep customization system for other chapters>mfw
>>549834907Creative Assembly will make barillions of dollars selling chapter pack DLC and xenos packs.TW Warhammer Fantasy is still coming out with new packs to this day.This will be the digital version of GW milking tabletop whales.
>>549834907Ultramarines came out the heresy with the most numbers so it stands to reason they will be the most seen.
>it's coming to consolesJust imagine how dumbed down it will be
why are they doing 2 different rts games at the same time, i thought hopper calling it total warhammer 40k was just him forgetting the "dawn of war" subtitle until I realized that dow games arent total war
Blame youtube for the compression artefacts
>>549841468>just casually tanking a big shootareally is marine wank times
>>549828783I instantly hold infinitely more respect for a SWfag if they wear anything but that fucking fur suit helmet.
Games Workshop should cancel Space Marine 3 with these inept slavoid devs and give it to Creative Assembly.
>>549846423Who are these niggas?
Even CA's Vanguard is loads better than Shitber holy fucking kek
>>549846508I think that's showing off the army painter that game's supposed to have.
>>549846648it's the exact same model with extra textures and filters
>>549846423>years ago, i was chinese
>four playable factionsjust how many dlcs are they planning to sell ffs
>>549769872I actually think it makes it funnier in some cases in a meta sense of>stupid meme>AND it has ai shit slapped on topI see it as ironic. Like if you wrote a shitty paper but also did it in comic sans.
>>549849415Total War is DLC centralThey'll add all First Founding and 2nd Founding Spess Mehreens chapters too plus the other popular ones like Blood Ravens, Minotaurs, Carcharodons, etc.Chaos Daemons and Spess Mehreens are already split into 5 automatically, 6 if you count Vashtorr and 7 if you think the Red Corsairs aren't true believers
>>549843528ap0 dude, its not going to do shiteven then hes standing at a angle where the shots are glancing off
>>549841468Unironically this trailer brought me back to the DOW1 trailer hype when I was a teenager
I'm starting to think the reasons I don't like the Primaris helmet is purely an SM2 thing and it being the most in-your-face exposure I've had with it. This one in the TW:W40K trailer looks way angrier and angular.
>>549846648That's literally a Space Marine 2 promo image from a Saber blog months ago with the TW logo slapped on it.
I think the Primaris helmet looks fine
>>549860415The SM2 version's lenses are too large IMO. It'd look a good chunk better if the lenses were more like the MK7 they added.
>>549846423>Brother Sergeant Lowus Wangus
>>549862961no python *bzzzt*
>>549860415They're just worse mark 4.
>>549860415They lack personality. A mark 7 is the definitive 40k space marine helmet. Even the mark 6 has a lot of character with the big schnoz.
>>549860556>>549865520>>549866306I said I think it looks fineNot great, just fine
>>549866534Sure, they're serviceable, but they're bland and generic.
>>549866534It if was in a vacuum, sure, but it's not in a vacuum, it's in an environment filled with better looking helmets that highlight how mediocre at best it is.Things tend to look a lot worse when a superior alternative is just sitting right next to them.
>>549860556I just wish they add their respective armour pieces
>>549867736Maybe the Raven Guard pack will get a mirrored clean MK6 in that part expansion they talked about regarding Champion skins and such.MK6 chest can hopefully come in the Heroic store.
>no Tactical with power sword and Iron Halo>no Tactical with thunderhammer and Iron Halo
>>549869960Think of the class readability anon. It would break the game and we can't have that
>>549862961I like... Chainsword. That's a personal weapon!
>>549834907They made a Dangles game and you didn't play it.They made Blood Ravens games and you didn't play the third one.So they're sticking with what has historically worked.>>549846648>>549846106I love how TWW secondaries are almost as much of a blight on /vg/ as they are on /tg/.
>>549838721But it's been ten thousand years.
>>549870728they made more
Urgh, could they not have picked 5th Company for TW40K? 3rd Company Ultras look so shit.
>>549870728Yeah and the chapters with more men got extra geneseed harvested and thus more successors and more reliable replenishmentMeanwhile the raven guard, salamanders, and iron hands have mere handfuls of successors because of the low numbers they had at the end of the heresy
>>549870410Saber is a blight
>>549870410implying anybody didn't play the weird french game because it was about dangels, and not because it was shit.
Assault has it's moments.
>>549870410the dangles game was badthe third dawn of war game was a half baked mobaultramarines aren't why 40k games sell well
>>549875657I wish the thunderhammer was faster so a majoris couldn't kite you by shuffling away
>>549875906I wish the CHP recovery on this thing wasn't so fucking pathetic so there's actually an incentive to trade with it.
>>549876890Why do some people act like melee trading is viable when all melee weapons have shit health recovery and anything majoris or stronger at high difficulty will take your entire health bar away in a single attack?
>>549877038No one is saying it's viable, but it is fun to hold down a big attack and shrug off everything like an unstoppable force. The fact that the game actively punishes you for playing aggressively with a gigantic hammer is a fucking failure of game design. Committing to a big melee hit should get you most, if not all, of your CHP back.
>game can't find two other people doing stratagems>red ping when I start it by myselfThe fuck is with this game's servers.
>>549881302stratagems seems like a dead mode 2bh.I get faster games on pvp
>>549859114Now that I look, yeah, the Primaris helmet in here is very much lacking in the intimidation department.
>>549881302hard or normal?people still play normal but bail out on wave 5 more than half the time, everyone else bails on wave 10they should just let players pay for colour unlocks
Brothers I have 100 hours, 2 classes at P4, is it time to take a break? daily stratagems are a fucking chore
>>549888826is this supposed to be a humblebrag or something? there are people here who have been playing from day one, I will soon be clocking 1k hours in
>>549891913it means I'm just bored my brother in the emperor
>>549894946Nobody is forcing you to play the game, brother. Go take a break, start a different game, do whatever if you don't feel like playing it. I don't fucking bother with daily strategems, only weeklies personally. I'd hate to think I'm just suffering through completely RNG conditions just so I can scrape together accolades that I'll be swimming in from just doing them every week.
>>549616197He mad the zig zogs are losing the fight or something ?
>>549888826I bought the game since day one and I have cleared everything but siege mode colours and PvP for 391 hours.
>>549633005lore-accurate gigantism face
It's time to drop SM2 and wait for 40KTW. Finally, a 40K game not made by r*ssians.
vanguard is fun until someone steals your execute
>>549909850The 40k team will be made by Hungarians and Bulgarians, not the main Bong CA team.The Bong CA team will stick with WH: The End Times until its over and then move to Medieval 3 while the Sofia and Budapest studios are working on WH40k.
>>549909850Once I max out the Techmarine I'm done with these slavoid devs.
>>549912159Why are you spreading misinformation? The main devs on 40k are the people situation in Horsham, CA Sofia are the ones working on fantasy still and doing the End Times DLC, hence why they were the ones who talked about it in their recent showcase.
balanced is unironically harder than fencing or block
>>549916147yeah, no shit? balanced is the only incorrect melee variant. enemy attacks are going to intertwine in a way that's impossible to prevent damage.
>>549916147>
>>549917326it gives incentive to use jetpack dodge at least
had a helbrute spawn in the vox liberatas mixed part. couldnt find him, but heard him beating up tyanids
>>549916147balancedfag here, i have a fun time with all of them and i have no idea how the fuck people get themselves trapped so easilythe only reason you should be dying is if you have a trillion gaunts/barbed seeds/off-screen extremis nidders attacking you because the AI director sucks shit and so does saber
>>549920042It’s cuz they try to play it like Fencing and then get smacked for it
>>549920042Having a parry windup is shit and locks you out of parrying minoris to death when you don't have the openings to be making lengthy melee attacks, it limits your options massively in pretty much any fight that presents an actual danger compared to block or fencing.
are the total war games brainlet friendly? I got one from the humble choice a month ago
>>549917326but most heroics are balanced...
>>549924249Nothing in this game is balanced
Did I finally get good at the game? I'm leveling up a new class (assault despite hearing bad things) and I'm no longer dead weight, hell many times I'm the last brother alive. Currently playing lethal/ruthless
Increased aoe for Power Backstep or should I go with Discharge at the bottom end for Power Axe? I am not sure how useful the once in 15 sec aoe would be from the overhead
>>549924080yes, the newer ones are target for 80iq individuals. the "strategic" campaign map is just building the money building and spamming units, then battles are ctrl-a right lick mosh pits
>>549926532assault forces you to learn the game. he has nothing going for him and he is always in danger. but once you get good, his few strengths are really strong. its a bit hard to play now without that jetpack to kill everything and always save myself
>>549927416I played him first on PVP and it's like a night and day difference.
Got the "Achieve a streak of 5 kills without dying in Eternal War mode" on my first ever PvP game kek
>>549928635based Sniper chad
>>549929449Heavy actually
>Mechanicus 2>Dawn of War 4>Total War: Warhammer>Warhammer SurvivorsWe eating fat, bros.
>>549931037>mechanicus 2was the first one good?
>>549932312>Hasn't played itYou're missing out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsX9WUdYnU
>>549932312Yes, and probably the best OST in any Warhammer game ever
>>549932503is it better than daemonhunters?
>>549933190Is it better than one of the worst 40K games on the market? Do you think anybody here would be recommending it if it wasn't?
>>549933339>Daemonhunters>badSorry but I'm not familiar with this meme
>>549933535Chaos Gate fucking sucks ass.
>>549933535It's a buggy unbalanced mess, prematurely abandoned by the devs at that
does anyone wanna join my homebrew chapter the beaky blinders? mk 6 corvus helmets only
how good are the assault prestige perks?
>>549934951adrenaline boost which is stagger immunity on block or dodge is game changing. the rest are small boosts
>>549934787where the fuck have you been
>>549935197>Unyielding Oath>Small boostLiterally the most important perk Assault has.
>>549935285oh yeah that one is good too. i had an old prestige perk image.
>>549935285yeah got that one first, been wondering if I should get duelist but I only fuck up parries against mini bosses
>>549932539just play a normal siege with bots for the first 5 waves and leave.
>playing this weeks stratagem>8000 damage within the first 3 minutes>boss bars only going down when Im shooting it>post match stats>2000 damage between two playersend it
>friday night>console fags are afk at the armoryunplayable garbage
>>549957012holy shit, I thought it was the only one with this problem, 10 minutes after booting the game I'm still trying to enter a game, fuck these retards.
You would have to pay me real life money to play great responsibility hard with random people.
>>549912159Still significantly better than kacaps.
>max gold and relic shitjust let me trade them for blue doritos...
>>549957012>>549957197Turning off crossplay fixes most of the problems with this game
>>549960875is this one of those games that becomes a buggy mess because of crossplay?
>last brother alive>choking during a boss>no one to revive me>guy quits to save the matchBrother, I...
>>549961508I dont know about bugs but 99% of all the mouthbreathers who cant play will be on console
>heroic plasma cannon can't stagger majoris or extremis at all>still a good weapon and directly outcompetes heavy bolter in damage while doing splash damage and being incapable of headshotsI hate what they did to bolters in this game man. The classic devastator weapon does not deserve to be this shit.
>>549963830It does slightly less DPS than the plasma cannon sure, but it has none of the ammo hungriness issues that the plasma cannon does I think this is a fine trade-off
>i can expertly dismantle a carnifex after 750ml of vodka but i am still not allowed to drive a vehicle
Is the jump from lethal to absolute when leveling up classes worth it?Getting 6k XP and like 5 levels at once is good but 3 extremis...
>>549964361>slightly less DPSIt's effectively useless if you don't have a clear headshot, you have to burst fire it just to not miss. Every heavy bolter variant has pathetic practical DPS compared to the heroic plasma cannon, heavy bolter is a shit weapon.>is the boss/terminus attacking your teammate? plasma cannon doesn't care, heavy bolter is useless>majoris is doing some bullshit jiggling? plasma cannon doesn't care, heavy bolter is useless>heroic plasma cannon can overheats slower than the heavy bolter with actually usable accuracy and still doesn't need to burst fire to maintain perfect accuracy where the bolter has to stop after a second of firingThe ammo efficiency on the heavy bolter only matters if you want to shoot every minoris you see, it's a worthless luxury.
>>549965013>Is the jump from lethal to absolute when leveling up classes worth it?That depends entirely on how good you are at the game. Generally I'd do a single match on lethal just to unlock the first row of perks and then move it up to absolute afterwards, but your mileage may vary.
>>549965013Absolute is doable, the hard mode isn't when you're trying to level.
>>549965454You’re being hyperbolic, it’s really not that bad I cleared the last few hard weeklies with the heavy bolter, even though I prefer plasma cannon
>>549966806Fact statements are not hyperbole.Winning a mission with a weapon equipped doesn't mean it's not a bad weapon, you can clear hard stratagems with the auto bolter.
>>549967290>the boss/terminus attacking your teammate? plasma cannon doesn't care, heavy bolter is useless>majoris is doing some bullshit jiggling? plasma cannon doesn't care, heavy bolter is uselessThese are hyperbolic untruthful statements, the word ‘useless’ is improperly applied here. The Heavy Bolter is still doing decent damage when it can’t hit headshots, just not a lot. That does not fit the definition of useless, you might want to pick a better word For the word useless to properly apply, it would have to do literally 0 damage on a body shot, which it doesn’t >w-well it does ALMOST 0 damage on a bodyshotStill doesn’t fit the definition of useless. Pick a different word, try ‘ineffective’ or ‘not very good’>you’re being a nitpicking assholeYes and?
>>549967975I'm sure semantics and pedantry will convince everyone the heavy bolter isn't shit, probably wins you a lot of arguments on reddit.Unfortunately for you, retard, the definition of useless is vague enough that it would apply to it doing next to zero damage on bodyshots for most people. Trying to kill a carnifex in a reasonable time frame by shooting it in the body is definitely not going to "achieve the desired outcome." Maybe at least look up the words before pretending to be smart.
>>549963830The heroic heavy plasma has shit ammo economy while the heavy bolter will almost never run out of ammo.By the time you fight a Terminus I rather have a heavy bolter than a low/no ammo heroic heavy plasma. The heroic heavy plasma does paltry damage to Terminus enemies, the only difference is you only need to constantly reposition for headshots with the heavy bolter to do more damage.The only thing the heroic heavy plasma has over the heavy bolter is that its a faster Extremis killer since you don't have to farm for headshots, against lesser enemies it literally doesn't matter since they die to a few shots regardless.
I prefer gold plasma cannons over the heroic.
>>549969092>next to 0 damage on a bodyshot This isn’t true Why do you hate the Heavy Bolter so much? This personal crusade of yours is a little weird honestly
>>549969092FirstTourGuardsman put Heavy Bolter in A tier, so it’s objectively not bad He plays the game 20x more than you do and regularly true solo’s absolute, he’s better than you will ever be and your opinion is worthless compared to his
>>549970791You're actually trolling. The ammo economy is fine. Use your secondary more, do spam as much, and pick up an ammo box every now and again. I've only ever run out of ammo when I'm going gung-ho and blasting everything that moves. Even then, I only ran out right before the next weapon pod or ammo box.
>>549970791>The heroic heavy plasma does paltry damage to Terminus enemiesWrong. It's one of his best options against terminus that aren't neurothropes, because it lets him do appreciable damage to them without repositioning for headshots, he can just unload whenever he has time to shoot. Carnifex and helbrutes won't even be facing you two thirds of the time, you barely get time to burst fire their heads at all when they're focusing you with melee attacks.Bet you have tons of fun trying to track chaos spawn heads while they're constantly whipping around.Given ammo drops and extremis executions, you shouldn't be running out of ammo for long stretches of the mission unless both of your teammates are doing significantly less damage than bots.>>549973187>why do you hate the heavy bolterBecause it's a shit weapon and it shouldn't be, same reason I hate the auto bolter.
are jetpack dodges worth it?
>>549976098>50+ ammoYou're taking Additional Supplies instead of Encompassing Aegis in addition to having been fully replenished after the cathedral section, that's why you're not running out of ammo that easily.
>>549976341>You're taking Additional Supplies instead of Encompassing AegisWrong.
>>549976098It’s not a shit weapon, as proven here: >>549973401This guy is way better than you will ever be at the game and says it’s good.
>>549973401>>549976559Youtuber solo player opinions are worthless, Space Marine 2 is a multiplayer game.Fuck off with shilling your stupid channel.
>>549976689He’s better than you at every aspect of the game and his opinion is worth way more than yours Cope and seethe harder
You are actually fucking shit if you run out of ammo on the heroic plasma cannon regularly enough for it to be a problem. That thing is amazing for Chaos stratagems and I regularly carry with it, and no I don't take Additional Supplies.>>549973401>Bolt Rifle in the same tier as the Stalker>Bolt Rifle two tiers above the HBR>even though the HBR has a better ammo economy to the point where you can comfortably play without Emperor's Vengeance>and has better accuracy with the scoped version>and is less punishing when missing shots>and can chew through minoris hordes far better with it's higher RoF and larger magazineI will never understand his hard-on for the BR while insisting the HBR Is mediocre. The only thing it can boast over the HBR is it's marginally better DPS when whatever you're shooting at stops dodging, twirling, sidestepping or just generally spazzing out long enough for you to actually land some consecutive headshots. Even in his gameplay videos where he insists "OH MUH GAWD GUYS THIS IS SO STRONG HOLY FUCK" he's regularly running out of ammo, missing shots due to enemies constantly dodging and has to rely upon his secondary to pick up the slack. I can chuck on the HBR and basically never switch to my secondary throughout an entire mission.Also think for yourself instead of having a youtuber make your arguments for you, you fucking faggot. The worst part about a large voice like FTG hyping up truly mediocre weapons and nuthugging dipshits like you regurgitating everything he says is that the devs will see it, assume the weapons are in a good spot and never give them the buffs they need to compete with the shit that's actually good. As it stands now the BR, HBR and especially the ABR are all painfully mediocre and far below what they should be in power. The bolter being as iconic as it is shouldn't be so middling in a game literally titled "Space Marine".
>taking any action that requires commitment right as a Lictor or Ravener grabs youlol enjoy losing most of your health because your teammates sure as shit aren't going to shoot the fucking thing before it has a chance to start doing damage.
Oh my goodness the stratagems are so unapologetic in this game. Every single time I think its going to be alright I just find out how painstakingly cancer it is because of that goddamn director.Sometimes it decides to pummel you with 3 consecutive waves (No enemy alert) for progressing into areas and triggering whatever system they have or you get unlucky and the game decides to spawn a mini boss along with 3 - 4 extremis.It feels like RNG.
>FirstTourGuardsman is based, he’s our guy! >FirstTourGuardsman fucking sucks stop posting your shill slop here! Can you guys make up your fucking mind? The narrative around this guy chances every day here.
>>549988504Just post code
>>549989370I already beat it.
>>549989345>/sm2g/ is one personNo matter what your opinion of him is you can't tell me that guy earlier wasn't sucking his cock a little too hard. I think his gameplay can be fun to watch just by virtue of how good he is at the game but I don't like that he insists on certain weapons being in a good spot when they feel really lacklustre compared to the competition. Also fucking hell does he churn out very samey build videos.
Leaving your battle brothers behind is heretic behavior.
What's that one Chapter you like that Saber got comically wrong with its preset in terms of colors, decals etc?
>>549994212Exorcists got absolutely butchered>Their official main color is like a dark blood orange>Just slightly brighter than the official GW Blood Ravens red>In Space Marine 2? Lighter peach-shade>Their official aquila color is gold, and their shoulder trim represents their Company>In Space Marine 2? Both are bronze for some reason
>>549994212The default scheme for the Sons of the Phoenix using Wraithbone for some fucking reason.
>>549995645For me? It's Ushabti Bone.
>>549993419try to keep up.
>get grabbed by a Ravener while standing in a heroic Thunder Hammer shock field>actually frees me before I take any damage>Quartus says "You have my gratitude"
>>549998842he was referring to hammer's machine spirit ob
>>549994212pic unrelated - your post made me remember how shitty dangels look in the game even though the colors are correct, real minis just look so much better because of cartoonish 'eavy metal highlights - and while i was looking at pics i found a reddit thinking cap in the wild
>>549999632A lot of the colors in the game simply have the wrong tone, and the forced gloss on a lot of them ruins them. I've never seen a good mini that wasn't matte.
>>549994212>got comically wronggoing through the effort to add in the Atlantian Spears when the Emperor's Spears already use the symbol and have more (and better) lore feels just a tad lazy. kinda how I felt trying to be a Celestial Lion before the Ronald McDonald DLC hit.
>>549984242Are you actually trying to pretend the HBR is better than the bolt rifle? Have you used the accuracy bolt rifle? It isn't stalker tier but to pretend that its worse than HBR is lunacy
I want to make the heavy bolter build work on my heavy class. Heard so much about how the plasma and melta are better build options, what can I do to improve the playstyle? I just like having a massive ammo pool and living my TF2 Heavy fantasy
>>550008902You pick the accuracy option and go all in on its damage perks and spread reduction perks.
>>550009037oh ok good to know. I had specced into more damage in heavy stance and kinda overlooked the accuracy perks. Figured if you're firing a zillion bullets you didn't really need to worry about accuracy as much
>>550009147Yeah in this game if you're not hitting heads, you do some shit like -60% damage. Overall accuracy is arguably more important than damage for bolt weapons.
>>550009304huh I had no idea. I know there were 1.25x multipliers on headshots, but didn't realize body shots did so little damage in comparison. This is what my perk tree looks like now, I still have 4-5 mastery points left to get I believe. You think I should get those two spread reduction perks in Artificer then the one in Relic?
>for whatever reason, decide i want to play a round as thunderhammer assault>quickplay absolute>get put in a reliquary with a low level bulwark and level 1 vanguard:)
I've been seeing a lot more Inner Fire Vanguards these days, what's up with that.
>>550009935>I know there were 1.25x multipliers on headshotsThat's multiplied by each enemy's inherent headshot damage modifier as wellMinoris take giga headshot damage which is why you'll instakill them on a bolt pistol headshot but the same weapon needs around five bodyshotsMajoris are less severe but it's still a massive difference
>>549990170Why do your guns have no recoil?
There's no way they're going to be able to release enough cosmetics to keep up with the accolades shop.
>>550033309Mk2-8 power armour piecesFirstborn Deathwatch armour piecesPrimaris Deathwatch armour piecesmore heroic weapons including other variants (e.g other types of combibolters, add gimmicks to similar relic weapons, and different heroics for all 3 melee types)Release a new batch monthly so that players will keep playing stratagemsWhen they release the Techmarine that nigga better have heroics for different shoulder ranged weapons instead of just a regular bolter Release new weapons to REDEEM (Grav gun, bolt shotgun, missile launcher, Neo-Volkite rifles, lightning claws, assault bolters, etc.)
>>549615779>>549625274>>549626285I said more or less the same things when the game launched, but everyone just told me I had skill issue.
>>550022568Visual recoil is less apparent the higher your FoV and I have the slider maxed out.
>>550039324That’s because a lot of what people think is unfair bullshit is just little bad choicesNot all of it, but I’d say most of itFor example, someone will see a blue parry and an orange unblockable at the same time, try to parry and eat the orange, and then go “what the fuck that was unfair what the fuck was I supposed to do there” without realizing that if they had dodged instead of parried, they would have been fine I had a similar moment yesterday where I failed to clutch a last stand on Absolute where I parried a Ravener, went for the gunstrike, and got raped by the Carnifex ranged spine attack while doing it I was pretty mad about until I thought about it more and realized that if I had had more situational awareness and had been paying attention to the Carnifex, I wouldn’t have taken the gunstrike right away and would have lived and probably clutched it I’d say the only true, completely unfair bullshit moments are probably only about 25% of what people complain about being unfair, the rest is just an unironic inability to admit culpability in making small mistakes
>>550041105>without realizing that if they had dodged instead of parried, they would have been fineAttacks can easily be staggered in such a way that dodging one gets you hit by the second which you cannot dodge by dodging the first.
Jesus Christ what are those Power Axe animations... At least I won't have to grind the XP for it.
>>550042562Right, but as I just said, the cases where that’s actually true is only a small subset of the situations people complain about Another thing I want to bring up is how many small mistakes contribute to those situations being run-ending; I’m sure someone will post that webm where a guy is trying to dodge a Ravener grab and a delayed Ravener melee lunge at the same time - he’s forced to dodge the grab and then gets killed by the lunge and there was genuinely nothing he could have done. However, one thing you’ll notice is that his HP bar is cut off (probably deliberately) in the webm and what people should really be asking is: why was his health low enough for him to die the Ravener lunge in the first place? That attack won’t kill you if you have most of your health left. So what mistakes did he make leading up to that unavoidable bullshit death?Yes, SOMETIMES this game is dog bullshit and Saber is at fault for that. However, people have more culpability in that than they usually realize.
>>550000671It has so much over the BR that you can argue just as good at the very least, and yes I do use the accuracy version as that's the only version worth using if you actually want to use the bolter part of the bolter instead of the grenade launcher. If the BR deserves to be in the same tier as the Stalker, than so does the HBR. Take Steady Aim instead of Emperor's Vengeance and it'll turn the scoped version into a laser beam even at longer ranges.
>>550046234yeah, it's good in damage but i can honestly do without it's gay ballerina animation, wish it was more like the SM1 axe
>>550047701Doesn't Titus spin around with the axe in SM1 too?
>>549999632i tihnk dark angels look cool. the bad part is grinding for the red weapons
Got the heroic hammer for the assault now I don't see myself using anything else on this nigga
>>550049185>Unique DA weapon skins aren't red
Which way, snipers? Honestly those don't look that enticing but I need that red cloak.
>>550054094Indomitable Spirit
>>550054542thank
>>550054094I went with versatility but I found myself only using the heroic pistol that let's you one shot enemies calling for support.
Did they improve the audio? Came back after a while and the bolters don't sound like shit anymore. I think.
>obelisk daily
>>550059469It's on normal anon, don't worry. If it was hard where you need to worry about getting 3 terminators and 20 anus heads all stunlocking you, then yeah.
>>550056643Does it not work with the heroic pistol?
>>550000337>want a metallic finish>ingame game color is too matte>want a matte finish>ingame color is too gloss
>>550064094it works but I barely use secondary weapons with the sniper, that's why I use the heroic pistol for the occasional one shot
I just hit L25P4 on all classes, what do I do now?
>>550076436How many hours?
>>550076436Favourite class, weapon and map?
>>550076592426>>550076661Toss up between Tac and Vanguard. I like having access to a lot of weapons, all 3 slots, being able to fulfill multiple rolls, and being aggressive. I'll probably say Tac just because Phobos armor is dogshit. Favorite map.... Inferno or Termination. I would remove the Chaos missions if I could. I actively avoid all of them.
>>550076874How did it take you that long? I hit P425 on every class after only like 200 hours. Were you playing on something lower than Absolute?
How do you guys feel about the inevitable prestige ranks 5-10?
>>550077728I was day one, played a lot. Then when prestige came out, I really only played Tac and Vanguard. Eventually did Bulwark and Assault, then I did Sniper and Heavy. Last 2 are my least favorite classes, so whenever I booted up the game, I was mainly just playing with the other 4.
>>550077958Ah, fair. I prestige’d all my classes on Absolute only, but I did it before the Absolute changes to Terminus enemies that made them spawn Extremis when they appeared and again at 50%. It used to be a lot easier before that.
Why the fuck is finding teams for stratagems so hard?
Do Biovores have i-frames during any of their animations? On three separate instances during Hard Siege, Biovores took zero damage from melta bombs placed directly underneath them.Also, is anyone else having inconsistency with headshot registration on Tyranids? Ever since the last update, it feels like the hitbox shrunk.
>>550076436Now you can finally play the game.
>>550084619If the Biovore is dug into the ground, it has so much explosive resistance that you’re better off just not using a melta at allWhat you can do is put it just in front of the Biovore and then detonate it when it unburrows and takes regular damage again
Just out of curiosity, what 40K books wouldt you lads recommend? I really cannot deal with all these AI-slop listicles when googling.
>>550086810The Ultramarines Omnibus The Gaunt’s Ghosts SeriesStorm of Iron (really almost anything by Graham McNeill) A couple of the Space Marine Battle novels are goodMost of the Horus Heresy stuff is hit or miss but the first few are good, my particular favorite was pic related
>>550086913Oh I forgot to mention the absolute fucking kino that is the Ciaphas Cain series, how the fuck did I forget that I also enjoyed the Grey Knights omnibus If you’re looking for Chaos stuff the Word Bearers omnibus was pretty good too
>>550084619i have noticed that all enemies have i-frames on dodge animations, its especially bad with ranged warriors that scoot around
>>550022568accuracy variants have less recoil and they also do the most damage when you hit the head
>>550086810The first five books of the Horus Heresy are solid. Then you have good ones after that like>The First Heretic>Betrayer>Scars>Path of HeavenI also enjoyed the Night Lords trilogy and I've been meaning to start the Carcharodons book as well as the Ahriman trilogy.
what gun should i use with tact vs bosses?
>>550088954>Does it have a head? Stalker>Does it not? Plasma or PyreblasterI generally just go with the latter two because you can just light them on fire and then contribute with melee damage.
>>550089093how should I be using the fire weapons? I just hold M1...
>>550089881Yeah that’s it Start meleeing once they’re on fire
>>550086810Know No FearAll of Gaunt's GhostsTitanicusBanebladeBrothers of the SnakeBoth Urdesh booksThe Night Lords triologyBetrayerThe First Heretic
is PVP supposed to be full of glitches?
Dan Abnett is an absolutely abysmal writer who can't keep track of his own story. It's very obvious that he starts and stops as his inspiration waxes and wanes, but he clearly doesn't leave notes for himself so he'll forget what he's previously written and this results in inconsistencies when he starts back up.He reminds of me of Type Moon's Sakurai, who wrote a story about normal living humans, then halfway through forgot her own setting and had them start talking about things they would only have if they had been summoned as ghost liners.
>>550085726That's what I was doing. Damn I'm retarded. I've killed them so quickly in general that I never saw one burrow before. Thanks man.
>>550086810The Carrion Throne, The Hollow Mountain and The Dark City are pretty cool too.
>>550090579The first game was.
>>550091703Then why is Gaunt’s Ghosts widely considered the best Guard-focused 40K series?
Should I waste time doing dailies if I already own those?Also missing the fists.
>>550095324The fist and power sword are great
>>550095324The fist is really good, especially on Assault who loves gun striking.
>>550095324Instigator is a flat upgrade
>>550096010yeah, that's probably why he already bought it
>>550095324I unironically like the Heroic Heavy Bolter It sucks past 25ft sure, but that’s where you’ll be doing the majority of your fighting in Absolute anyway, and it’s best bonus (which is unlisted for some fucking reason) the removal of any spin-up time, helps it squeeze in more burst damage in between parry chains You can do stuff like parry the first hit of a whip warrior, dump a quick burst into his face, then parry the second hit for the gunstrike
Should I spam normal or charge shot with the heavy plasma when fighting against bosses?
>>550109201you should be always charging shots unless you know what you're doing.
>>550109201Always heavy shots, common shots on the regular heavy plasma is a waste of ammo. For the heroic heavy plasma just keep shooting at bosses and don't miss while in heavy stance, it can't charge anyway.
Shortest operation?
>>550113581Decapitation and ReclamationThe guaranteed bosses in the end gives you a high chance to not spawn an extra Terminus but not always, with the latter you're only stuck with the puzzle section to open the door and its just running until the final exit then twin boss fight
>>550095324Yeah
>>550095324Damn, dailies are boring as fuck plus normal ones give jackshit xp and rewards.It takes like 60-80 minutes to get them done too
post yfw an xbox sniper joins the squad
>>550124972>Xbox sniper>regular bolt sniper rifle>level 23 non-prestiged>1/4 health during the first major encounter
>completely overwhelmed and low on health>elevator is just a few step away>squad still insist on engaging with every enemy
>>550114939There's a good chance Decapitation can stall if your dumbass teammates don't attach bombs fast enough, and the bombs themselves can either be 3 or up to 6.Weirdly enough, I've had incredibly fast Obelisk clear times in comparison.
>>550132487The bomb section is straightforward and not a puzzle.Obelisk can and will spawn 2 Helbrutes so its slower, even today there are still retards who can't navigate the chalice section, can't find the servo-skull or stand away from the pedestal and cannot use the circle for the correct island.Reclamation has two puzzles which only one gets used per game; find the deceased servitor or play a braindead letter puzzle far easier than in Reliquary. Since there are two bosses already the chance of another Terminus spawning is actually the lowest among the other maps and you're supposed to be just running and gunning until the actual boss fight only to start running and gunning for a few seconds to the Thunderhawk.
Are you supposed to spam shield bash with bulwark? I just learned that you can cancel any animation with bulwark's shield. Dashing around while staggering mobs with shield bash is so much fun.
Wow thanks Saber, those Requisition points you put in the research centre really help! I really find myself lacking those so they really are so so useful!
>>550133751if you play traditional shock + AoE + parry Bulwark you'll get votekicked
>>550133751it's currently the "meta" way of playing bulwark.
>>550134091I don't know what that is. I bought this game 5 days ago.
>>549838721> Ultramarines came out the heresy with the most numbersThis is why they have the most SUCCESSOR CHAPTERSThey are one of the most faithful followers of the Codex Astartes because papa Rowboat wrote itMeaning they self-relegate themselves and there are only, approximately, 1,000 Ultramarines in the entire galaxyThere are several Chapters larger than them who outright ignore the limitation set by the Codex (Black Templars) and others that obscure their numbers for various reasonsThere are about 1,000 Chapters of about 1,000 marinesThe Ultramarines make up 0.1% of all Marines in the galaxy
>>550138387Space Wolves also fudge the numbers hard with the clans, right?
>>549994718All the preset colors for almost every chapter is wrong. They're weird dull and washed out versions. It always makes me happy when I see someone using an official chapter and even happier when I see they adjusted the colors to be more correct
>>550134562votekicking is a /sm2g/ meme, it's supposed to make newplayers scared about trying out new things by suggesting they will get kicked out of a game when other players find out. this never happens though because 1) nobody fucking cares 2) to be kicked both players you're paired with must vote 3) the average player doesn't even know how to vote. the topics most commonly used in this format are blocking/balanced/fencing melee, team perk choice, class choice, using stims/relics/seed.speaking of which, one thing you absolutely need to know before you start playing is when you die and get picked up you get a mortal wound, symbolized as a skull left to your hp bar, that will you go on respawn timer if you die again. to clear the mortal wound, you need to heal to over 100% by using several medkits, or using a medkit or executing an enemy after a bulwark plants a healbanner.
I want to move on to a different game but I keep playing this
Don't even like the yellow of the Imperial Fists that much, but there is no other colour that looks that good splattered with blood
>>550138387>He doesn't knowThe Smurfs have been skirting the numbers dictated by the codex since before Guilliman even started his nap. They currently operate 11 companies, and used to have more with one of them being split off into the Scythes of the Emperor in the third founding because Dorn was about to find out about it.
>>550139080its 12 or 13 companies but they had no successors, and even then they dont replenish squads until theyre all dead, so often veteran squads are like 3 or 4 dudes
>>550139080They don't fudge the numbers like the Black Templars do, they outright refused the Codex Astartes and do not adhere to it.The Cicatrix Maledictum has forced Girlyman to abandon the space book for more practical purposes, even his Smurf retinue are 1000+ now and Calgar also has 1000+ Smurfs.
I have to be honest i really wish your melee weapon was a different weapon slot. Using your melee together with your ranged just doesn't work that well with keyboard and mouse.
>>550151739it was okay in remnant
>>550151739That’s why I play on controller even on PCThis game has giga aim-assist so I have no trouble stick aiming, and third-person melee games will always feel better with a controller
>>550151739I agree but in remnant you don't have to parry/block. Also you can't hip-fire in remnant because you can't shoot your guns without aiming down sight. It is bound to lose something when you were to control two weapons at once.
block hammer is better than the heroic one
>block>good
>>550153395meant for >>550152429
>>550152665>giga aim-assistso xbox niggas are just giga bad?
>>550154368NTA but I'm on PC too and use a gamepad, and I have no idea how consolefags struggle the way they do. I've completed every single mission on Absolute, complete every hard weekly Strat to the point of carrying.Don't get me wrong, of all the ranged weapons in the game, the Bolt Sniper is probably the "hardest" to use. But only in point blank range against shit like Enlightened Tzaangors, otherwise it's still pretty easy.
>>550153650>BlockGr8 b8 m8
>>550153650>block hammer is better than the heroic one>than the heroic one
>>550155191>>550155509fencingfags who haven't played assault until he got a decent fencing weapon need not reply
>>550153650I would agree but only if you discount ground pound stuffIf the Assault is running the perk that recharges ground pound by 10% per ground pound kill and is able to spam it into hordes, I think the ability to leave a shock grenade each time he pounds is worth more than the better flat damage of the block hammer
Nah, I can't believe this. A PC player is AFK at the damn armoring hall.And he's a level 10 queued up for an Absolute game.Fucking DISGUSTING
>>550157026>>550157495i use it on bulwark. hammer on assault looks bad. i always use chainsword, sometimes axe, sometime fist for bosses
>>550158069This wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for the matchmaking system pairing you with the same guy everytime you try to que again
>>550157026P4 25 Assault and have been since like a month after Prestige was added.The Shock Hammer is the best Hammer on Assault and it's not even close.
Is there a more useless weapon than the plasma incinerator? It's a legit peashooter even at higher rarities
>>550160916desu op should have made an infographic on how to use plasma for newfags by now
>>550161291The heavy plasma is fine, but the tactical one is just wank no matter how
>>550160916Charge it to full and stagger rubric marines to death.
>>550160916It used to be Tac’s best primary before the Pyreblaster came out and before the small plasma nerfs a while back It’s still in his top 3 primaries, just not as dominant anymore
>>550160916It's called charging the shots
Heavy's starting perk should give like 35% more ammo
Did I finally get good? I'm no longer relying on prestige perks to carry me around
>>550151739What's so uncomfortable about it?
>>550165810Heavy should get 2x-4x the current ammo count and should never hug ammo boxes/cratesWith the amount of enemies they throw in Absolute and in hard stratagems the current ammo pool is unbearable for certain weapons, namely heavy plasma, multimelta and pyrecannonReplace the Extremis melee execute perk with Emperor's Vengeance
>>550173287It’s definitely not unbearable I can’t remember the last time I genuinely ran out of ammo for my primary on Absolute+ You just have to learn proper ammo conservation
>>550174454The Heavy shouldn't conserve ammo, it's the shootiest class
>>550175619I disagree, the mechanics of ammo conservation is inherently baked into the game’s difficulty It’s what allows things like decision between taking the ammo variant or the damage variant of a weapon and balancing choices like making the heroic plasma do more DPS than the heavy bolter, but the heavy bolter still being relatively competitive because it doesn’t have the ammo issues the heroic plasma does Now if you think Saber was wrong to consciously choose to include ammo and ammo conservation as a facet of difficulty that’s fine, but that’s a deeper conversation to have
Maybe it's too nitpicky to ask, but are there any examples in lore/books where ammo scarcity is a problem for Astartes?
>>550176836it is. this is not lore/books. this is a videogame, and it follows videogama logic.also, there are no examples in lore/books because a single bolter round explodes any enemy.
>>550177081I meant nitpicky as in maybe it's me asking too much for someone to remember a chapter/scene from a book where ammo scarcity was a thing kek
>>550157495>the ability to leave a shock grenade each time he poundswhy does this matter when everything is already dead?
>>550176836>but are there any examples in lore/books where ammo scarcity is a problem for Astartes?Only for last stands which are many, Spess Mehreens never run out of ammo unless plot dictates it>>550176573The current ammo count is tuned for Substantial/Ruthless, not nu-Absolute and hard stratagemsThe Heavy can only replenish ammo via Extremis melee executes and killing 7+ Minoris at once with the MultimeltaMeanwhile the Tactical can shoot their way to any Majoris every 30 seconds and get ammo back while the Sniper can kill a random enemy every 15 seconds to get ammo back
Should really add a Ghost of Tsushima style Lethal Mode where both you and your enemies take a shitton of damage when you get hit.
Has anyone here struggled with alcohol? I'm not far down the path of alcoholism, but I was routinely smashing 4 to 8 beers a night. Before that I actually had alcohol poisoning twice. I couldn't go to sleep unless I was drinking. This went on for 2 months until recently. I'm 2 days sober now, but I still get cravings. Like not being itchy until you think, "My hair is itchy." or thinking about breathing making you need to breathe manually. My goal is to reach the end of the month without another drop, but man, it's just become so ingrained in me at this point. Literally everything I did at home I would usually start off with a drink. Does anyone else have experience with this stuff? How hard is the road ahead?
>>550177224>the current ammo count is tuned for Substantial/RuthlessNah, it’s tuned for Absolute. If YOU think it’s not tuned WELL for Absolute, that’s another conversation to be had, but Saber made a very clear and conscious decision that running out of ammo should be a present threat in higher difficulties. If you disagree with that decision that they made, that’s something else.
>>550180260I’m kind-of/maybe struggling with it. I just feel happier doing things when I’m buzzed/drunk. Videogames are more fun, movies are more enjoyable, food tastes better, I get more emotional affection for my fiancée (I’m a very autistic dude with little empathy) and I go down on her and eat her out a lot more often when I’m drunk, which she likes, even if she doesn’t like the stupid arguments I sometimes start when I’ve had too much to drink. I’m aware this is probably because alcohol has fried my pleasure receptors. The main thing that keeps me from drinking 3-4 beers a night is that I’m 32 and hangovers make me feel like shit the next day if I don’t drink water while I drink. I think that’s what’ll prevent me from fully sliding into alcoholism, but I do end up drinking more than I want to. I’ve tried only drinking once a week, but that easily turns into 2-3 times a week. I’ve tried abstaining for a whole month but I usually end up coming up with some excuse of how “my day sucked, I need a beer” or “my day was great, I’d love a beer.” I feel you anon.
>>550181048>FiancéI wanted a brother to comfort me, not twist the fucking knife.... I started off with just 1, then 2 or 3. Like you, I tried the once a day or a week, but I'd always get happy and in the mood where I would say "Ah, fuck it, one more." and then 1 more ended up being the entire pack. I even smashed a whole case during a game session because I kept feeling myself coming down, so I'd grab one more. Not only is alcohol a vice, but I've also got addicted to vaping. It's just nicotine, but when you pull on it as hard as you can and hit a blinker, it feels so good. Like your brain is melting. Doubly so when you're drunk. I haven't had a night in the past 8 months where I didn't basically knock myself out. How the fuck do you escape this Slaaneshi doom spiral? Life sucks so you hit your vices. You feel better for a while, then you wake up and see what you're doing to yourself and it makes you feel shittier. Might as well hit it again to make the pain stop for a while right? I wish I never would've started with this shit.
I don't drink nor smoke.I just felt that they'd be enormous wastes of money and I hate feeling "out of my mind" and generally forgetting things because it's such a bitch to try and remember all my responsibilities again, and then get anxious if I can't remember everything. I'll drink with friends but I have no desire to get drunk.
>>550181608I didn’t mean to bring up the fiancée thing to make you feel bad my friend, it comes with its share of problems. Alcohol use on my end has caused a lot of bad fights between us that she never really has forgiven me for, nor should she. I used to smoke a lot when I drank too, but concern for my health made me drop it. I still smoke once a year or so if I can get away with it. I genuinely wouldn’t know how to get out of a ‘drinking every day’ spiral like that if I was that deep into it, luckily I’m not. Well, I would, people are gonna shit on me here for this but I’d turn to God. I believe that He’s the only one that can help us when we’re truly beyond the point of helping ourselves. But I think just that you’re sharing all this and looking for advice and support, and that you’re even trying to make an attempt to become more sober is a lot more than most do. Sometimes you just have to stick with it through the hard shit until it becomes easier.
>>550182808That’s the smartest decision you can make. If I could go back and fix my brain to feel the same highs that I can only feel when I’m drinking now, I would. There’s just not much else to do in the Infantry, especially when you’re stationed somewhere like Okinawa. The vices get a lot of people.
>>550182947>turn to GodThe Emperor protects. I really should open up my Bibles or at least listen to a YouTube sermon for guidance. Trying to power through things with my own will power alone has worked about half the time, but the flesh is weak.
>>550183453Stay strong brother.
>>550180260this vide is good, it talks about why alcohol is addictivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocSPQp49DtQusually ex addicts get addicted to working out
>talking with girl>laughs when I say I don't smoke weed>tells me weed is the only way she can see the "real world">yeah sure whatever>Gets really upset at me>stop talking with herDid I do good brothers?
>>550184457Was there any indication that she led a stable life even with the weed or was she just a fucking bum?
>>550184457yes she is only saying that because some loser she banged said that
>>550184535she was in a university, she wanted to be a psychologist iirc
I think the last time I played a PVP game was like 7 years ago, how does SM2 pvp compare to other games?Cause I was having a lot of fun but I'm not sure if it's because it's legit fun or because it's been ages since I engaged into shooting other people online
>>550185005>psychologist Yeah you made the right choice dropping her ass >>550185130It’s just 2015-era multiplayer shooter sloppa, run around and shoot people and have fun Most people want more nowadays and most shooter games offer way more systems and progression metrics and battle passes, but if you’re having fun with it, just have fun
>>550185005>psychologistlmaoNah, you did good, anon.
>>550180509It's insane to think ammo in particular isn't balanced for absolute when we know all of the game mechanics are balanced around lower difficulties.
>>550188740And how do we know that? Do you have a quote from Saber or an internal design doc?
>>550183647That's probably one of my biggest issues on top of money. I used to be really active in the gym, but I went on a contract working on a ship for 8 months. When I got back, I had a decent chunk of change, but I've long since run out. Couldn't afford my gym membership anymore and currently just barely keeping my head above water with soul crushing temp work, but I can't even afford to go out on drives anymore. I'm stuck at the house. Idle hands are the Devil's plaything.
what possesses someone to join a hard stratagem at level 1?
>>550180260been struggling with alcohol since 2018 and I feel your pain anon. I'm pretty much a full blown alcoholic at this pointmy only suggestion is to find something physical you can get into. whether it's lifting, running, going for a walk, etc just do something physical that gets you movingI swim, box, and play a shit load of golf to try and get my mind occupied away from booze and it has helped somewhatI'll say a prayer for you brother and God bless
>>550188857Based on the fact the game was never intended to be played on anything resembling absolute when the game launched, much less hard stratagems. Lethal didn't even exist on launch.All the mechanics were created based on difficulties below lethal and balanced around those.What makes you think you know the mechanics were balanced for absolute?
>>550199535Well since you’re the one making the claim that “the game mechanics aren’t balanced for Absolute” the burden of proof is upon you to substantiate your claims with evidence. But I guess at this point I’m not really sure what we’re arguing. I think what you really mean to say is: “Saber didn’t do a good job at balancing various game mechanics for Lethal/Absolute”Because if we take the words literally, we see they they quite literally are balanced for Absolute. Enemy damage increases on Lethal+. This means that a game mechanic, in this case damage, is balanced for Lethal+, because Saber went in and consciously adjusted values for it that only apply to it. Also the enrage mechanic which is a game mechanic that literally only appears on Lethal+, exists. That means, quite literally, that Saber DID balance game mechanics for Lethal+. I think what you mean is that they just didn’t do a very good job of it.
>>550203053The proof is that almost every game mechanic that exists was designed with the intention that you would play on ruthless or below and was created before lethal existed.Difficulty level does not change your ammunition values.
>>550204694I don’t think you’re using the word ‘proof’ correctly, what you’re providing is just circumstantial evidence Also, enemy damage (a game mechanic) DOES change with difficulty, so doesn’t that prove that Saber did at least balance SOME game mechanics for Lethal+? Also, why did you ignore the enrage mechanic, which only exists at Lethal+? Are you sure you wouldn’t like to amend your position?
>>550204694To summarize. You made a very broad, blanket statement that:>”Saber does not balance game mechanics for anything above Ruthless”This statement can be disambiguated to give us:>Saber does not balance ANY game mechanic for anything above Ruthless, there is not a SINGLE game mechanic that they have balanced for anything above Ruthless However, as I have pointed out, enemy HP values HAVE been increased and balanced for both Lethal and Absolute, which definitively proves your blanket statement - that Saber does not balance a single game mechanic for above ruthless - false.
>>550206462>>550205638What proof then do you have that ammo is balanced for absolute?
>>550207607I don’t need to prove myself right All I needed to do is prove you wrong
>>550207773If your claims do not need "proof", neither do mine.
So far in Reclamation I've ran into terminus spawns in:>The slightly confusing bridge section with two levels>Docking bay with the warheads>In the cooling rods section>In the circular room afterHow many more spots can they spawn in?
>>550173287>Heavy should get 2x-4x the current ammo count and should never hug ammo boxes/cratesOh fuck off. If you fags had your way, we'd have Overwatch style unlimited ammo.
>>550207981There’s 7 spots as far as I’m aware
>>550208396What's so bad about tactical that he deserves to have infinite ammo?
>>550208886He doesn't.Ammo restoration was a mistake, same with HP.
>>550207930That’s now how the burden of proof works Like damn dude did you not take a debate class in high school or a logic class in college or something?
>>550211327You claimed ammo is tuned for absolute.
>>550180260Booze is one of those things where you're using it as a coping mechanism for something else going on in your life, on top of the fact that you're getting used to the fact that it's depressing your nervous system. The best thing to do is find something else to spend all of that time/money on while you sit down and figure out what's causing you to drink to begin with. I prefer drinking because I have nothing else going on in my life, but it's objectively one of the worst ways to life
>>550212191Show me where I said that.
>>550213968>>550180509
>>550214098Okay, fair enough, I forgot I said that. I concede that ammo is not tuned for Absolute. However, you claimed that ALL gameplay mechanics are not tuned for Absolute. What about the others, like enemy HP?
>>550214441If you're going to be pedantic, most of the game mechanics are designed around bad players dueling majoris with some minoris in the mix at difficulties lower than lethal, not literally all of them.The combat falls apart at higher difficulties as often as it does because they are an afterthought added to appease the small minority of players that easily mastered the relatively shallow combat this game provides.
>>550214918So what’s your newly revised argument? Unless you’re NTA
>>550215120>most of the game mechanics are designed around bad players dueling majoris with some minoris in the mix at difficulties lower than lethal
>>550215230Okay, that one I’d agree with. No argument there.
Okay who just Imperial Fists are cringe I know you’re in here Markus you fucking fag
Apologize.
>>550219925U-uh S-Sniper just isn’t ready for A-Abso-Uh you must be using C-Carbine SMG… Um… Sniper is D tier! He doesn’t work! Uh… I-I tried him and I died a lot and uh… it just doesn’t work okay! Las-Fusil is shit! Bolt Sniper is shit! Heroic Bolt Sniper is shit!
>>550220154>>550219925Play with shitters who go down 3 and 1 and you can make any class look good. Your Heavy was a fucking tard and your Vanguard joined at the end of the mission based on his damage numbers.
>Alexei forgot to set the modifier from additive to multiplicative
do weeklies change on mondays yet?
>>550219925You killed the least enemies because you're busy lining up headshots while the Heavy ate shit on the team's behalf (700+ is too high for a Heavy) and the Vanguard obviously filled in late because your previous teammate was probably just as bad and quit.
>>550225056Killing the least enemies while getting the most damage means someone's killing mostly majoris and extremis.
>>550219925>just use heavy plasma bro>dies 3 times and takes an inordinate amount of damage>just charge bro
>>550227150It was a heavy bolt rifle
>>550228610he a shit then
>>550224903Never, Thursdays are Mondays in Puccia now
>>550224903No, despite the hotfix giving them a perfect opportunity to resync the week and the weeklyConsidering how small the patch was I initially assumed that was what they had done
>In consequence, reverted patch 11.1 bonus damage from 35% to 25%..
WTF THIS IS STILL GETTING UPDATES?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRJmssntzSE
How do I NOT suck with the axe?
>>550237291Do the light > heavy > light > repeat chain where the light turns into the spinny one, that counts as a light finisherParry niggers and use the backstep into gunstrikeIt's not hard
Why are the melee movesets only viewable in-game and only for the melee weapon you currently have equiped? Such bad UX
Help a brother...
>>550238259this game needs a training room or something
>>550238619This gun is mid, you're running out of ammo too fast and Vanguard has zero ammo recuperation
>>550238741We're getting one, confirmed it's the ship expansion.
>>550238259you know some weapon perks add or change available moves? guess what, you can't even use them in the training arena.
>>550238259>>550238741SM2 needs a fighting game style training arena where players can spawn any enemy even multiples and reset on a hotkey while also being able to see HP and damage values.
>>550238741I'd be genuinely happy with just an entry in the "control" menu with the combo list
what get? I got burned on the combi-melta already. the Thunder Hammer absolutely fucks, though. I haven't even started playing sniper yet so IDK if the bolt sniper is good. everyone says the regular one is straight ass.
>burnout on operations>try PVP>play it religiouslyget me out of this nightmare
>>550240575hue
>>550240575The combibolter is fine, its a solid B weapon
Played 1 mission all the way back in june, only picked it up again 3 weeks ago.
Is the heroic combat knife any good? The perk seems pretty situational but what do I know
>>550240575If you've put any time into Heavy, the Plasma is pretty solid. The pistol is alright, and I see the fist being really good on an Assault looking to maximize gunstrikes. Sniper is supposedly really good if you can aim, with the Heavy Bolter being ass because lmao 1 accuracy. Chainsword and Power Sword are both balanced, so you're not going to have a good time with them generally, and the Combi-bolter is alright
My biggest issue with this game is that there is no "quickrun", if I don't have a spare hour to play, I won't even launch the game.
>>550240575>S>death's grasp>heroic heavy plasma>A>heroic chainsword>power gladius>xenophase blade>heroic bolt pistol>heroic heavy bolt pistol>Haven't used yet, but're probably either S or A tier>both wraps>heroic heavy bolterYou picked like the only heroic in B currently at 11.1 as one of your first heroics. It's not that bad though.None of the heroics are bad really. Some just aren't as strong as their equivalent relics. They'll still at least have a unique gimmick that makes them worth using.
>>550244736>A>heroic chainsword[worried laughter]
>>550244772Absolutely.The juiced up finishers are so fun, you feel naked going back to a relic chainsword.It's not as strong as a block chainsword or as reliable as a fencing chainsword, but it's base damage is still higher than blocks', and its speed and the balanced parry aren't as bad as /sm2g/ memes. The situations where balanced fucks you are far more common in siege than in absolute+ ops.
>>550240575>SThunderhammerHeavy plasma>APower fistBolt sniper rifle>BXenophase bladeInstigator rifleHeavy bolt pistolCombat knife>CCombibolterChainsword>DBolt pistolHeavy bolterIf Bolt sniper rifle's ammo can be replenished with the prestige perk it goes to SIf Heavy bolter got its 4 accuracy back it goes to SNoobs get filtered hard with the heavy plasma, always complaining about ammo shortages not realizing just because it fires rapid common shots does not mean its meant to be wasted on Minoris enemiesAn Assault with a gunstrike Thunderhammer build is one of the most OP classes you can use in Operations and hard stratagems as long as in the latter there is no active penalty for using the class
>>550233997Was anyone actually using those things over grenades though
>>550247249>heavy bolt pistol in the same tier as the instigatorThe instigator practically has no downsides aside from like 0.3 less headshot multiplier, why is it with the balanced weapons?
How are people still complaining about chaos spawns.
Sorry if it's been asked to exhaustion, but how is leveling tech marine when it hits going to work out? Seems like the only way to get it done is to solo queue which every map is fastest and repeat that since so many players will all be leveling the same character. Also, which map is currently the best for grinding?
>>550267380because you can't do much when 10 of them spawn at once and no amount of cope about weapon type or learning animations will change that fact that you'll get your shit rocked if there's just too many
>>550267549Nobody knows how it's going to work, but I would guess that they don't change how the system currently works. The fastest map for grinding is probably spamming Ruthless Inferno or Decapitation over and over again (any Tyranid map tbqh); look up the Gene Seed spawn locations beforehand.
>>549677549No because shitters don't play light classes.
>>550269256Assault and Bulwark chads simply do not care.
>>550269256I personally like Ballistic Engine. Only big RNG sequence is the missile prep and running to the generators in the last train bit isn't too bad.
>>550214441>>550214098Both of you shut the fuck up from now on and please kill yourselves. Fucking faggots.
wood yo ube mad if i dont use heal banner uwu
Why so many people keep shitting on the sniper? It is ass in siege, since you can't really aoe spam, but it's top tier in operations.>best ranged single target dps>infinite ammo with prestige perk>good survivability Like the only bad thing about is the knife being a floaty, awkward to use weapon
>>550277445You could have simply chosen not to read the conversation when it started making you angry anon
>>550281327>best ranged single target dpsbecause this doesnt matter. anyone can survive if you are good enough. heavy and bulwark deals sniper's damage to 5+ enemies at once
>>550281327I think it's as other anons have stated. A good sniper is amazing in operations, they can easily deal with thropes and other annoying enemies with las fusil and their ammo prestige perk is amazing. Their is also a good build for one of the rapid fire bolters, just don't remember which at the moment. No idea about the other guns. However, players that can't aim will suck with it and nothing will make up for that. Same goes for bad guns. Like holy fuck grey and green guns just feel wrong a lot of the time.
>>550285083and I am retarded. There not their*
he got wooped lol
>>550285551Shock Grenades are so useful in situations like this. Same in Siege mode, the damage just ticks and ticks
>>550180260I just started sobriety again after falling off the wagon. My advice is to get some kind of daily tracker, really just something that you'll see that will count the days for you. I liked seeing the number go up. Other than that, find something else that can fill the void when you get a craving. Usually just something fizzy will be enough to trick yourself, like pop or carbonated water.
>>550180260Yes. However, I'm autistic and have depression. So while I want to help I realize why I was driven to drink and how I got through it might not help. Unironically painting warhammer minis has helped me as I would drink when I was bored and lonely
Kill nidders. Behead nidders. Slam dunk a nidder into the rockcrete. Flying kick a nidder with a grappling hook. Cut nidders in half with a chainsword. Plant a flag on a nidder's corpse. Snipe a nidder's head. Slash nidders with a power sword. Chain stomp nidders. Frag nidders. Execute nidders. Auspex nidders. Ground pound nidders. Full auto nidders with a heavy bolter. Vaporize nidders with plasma. Obliterate nidders with a power fist. Stab nidders with a combat knife. Exterminate nidders with a neo-volkite pistol.
>>550183453Anon, for the love of anything listening, do not go to youtube for that unless it's a channel from an actual church. Way too many grifters misinterpreting the Bible for their own gain these days.
>american christcucksWhy are they always so "performative" about their faith?
>>550183453Something that has helped me has been finding some parks near-ish by and going for a nice walk regularly. It's meditative, relaxing, and nice. Pic related is part of a park I truly love. Gravel trails, nature, animals, seen some deer a few times, silent aside from the noises of people there, and it's just a lovely disconnect to enjoy nature.
>>550289548Stop being edgy, stop being shitty. Someone is asking for help and people are trying to do so. Sometimes religion is the answer. There are all kinds of interpretations of many religions and many have nothing to do with what drove you to rnject it I hope you are never confronted with the kind of problems other anons in the thread have had to deal with. Collect your (you) and kindly resume reading and not posting
>>550289548
>>550292769Don't do that. Someone needs help, don't try to devolve the conversation into tribalism. We all know you could be helpful. Your mom knows you can do better. Don't do that.
>>550282472I was skipping past it looking for actual game talk, but every couple of scrolls, boom, you faggots.
>>550289548Is this you, pussy?
>>550285551>class is called bulwark>is a bulwarkbravo sabre
So what do you guys think the chaos tech marine will be?personally i think its going to be some sort of Noise marine stand in for emperors children.
>>5502971461:1 clone of the loyalist. No one cares about pvp
>inb4 the ammo autist spergs outIn the Vortex operation it takes too long before you hit a weapon pod/ammo box
whatever they did to improve connectivity actually worked for once. I have barely been able to find two other players for weeks, but now it's fast again and with good ping.
Anyone else that leaves the instant a player with cyrillic characters in his name joins?
>>550300194Are you talking about the “this game doesn’t have enough ammo” autist or the “this game has enough ammo, get good” autist
>>550303583Just general autists I suppose, the first ammo refill point is that weapon pod on the bottom right, just before the first drop down into chaos world
i hate console niggers so muchthese dumb faggots are always dealing 1/6th my damagethey literally do nothing the entire operation. You would think that for people who have a dedicated gaming platform that they would actually be good at games
the twin tyranid primes are pussy bitches
>>550180260Maybe drink some real beer instead of seltzer highballs every night kid. In fact I prefer sake to reflect, not chug IPA's to forget in a blackout.
block hammer is awesome. i dont use the charge attack that much, only for niche situations. 90% of the time i sprint into double overhead
Can you not stagger terminus enemies with a parry anymore
>>550315224helbrute can be staggered but not carnifex
>>550315292I tried parrying the hive tyrant with the fencing hammer but it just came off like a block with no gunstrike
>>550315439im not 100% sure but some of his combos give him stagger immunity especially in the second stage, i have gunstriked him during some of his red atttacks and he doesnt get staggered but other times the gunstrike staggers him. if there was no gunstrike then it wasnt a perfect parry.
There seems to be more newfags now more than ever.
id rather have a vanguard with -15% cd on execute than the healing shit
>>550289548Because their entire history revolves around chrisitan fundamentalists
>>550316297In no universe is a minor ability cooldown bonus worth one third of your health per extremis kill, you supreme contrarian.
>>550320214Only if you're playing healwark so you can throw up the banner more often
>>550320214you dont need to heal if you go hard
>>550321831Like Zoe
>>550321831I go hard in the muthafuckin’ paint YuhYuhYuh I go HARD in the muthafuckin’ paintKeep those heals away from me!I’ll just die in the muthafuckin’ paintYuhYuhYuhGet fucking eviscerated in the muthafuckin’ paint
>join game that just started>host has 1/4th of his health and one wound
I should really do a run with the heroic heavy bolter.
>>550335724I’ve run a few Absolutes with it, it’s good Not great, but good
>>550303583The game doesn't have ammo but the enemies are far too manySpace Marines never run out of ammo unless they're penned to dieThe devs increased the enemies and buffed them for the highest difficulty but the ammo count/boxes are scarceIf you're playing Vanguard with the new Instigator you'll be burning ammo without natural replenishment and if you're a Heavy you'll be competing with 2 of your other teammates for Extremis executesEither double the natural ammo counters for every gun or have ammo boxes littered in every corner of every section of the map
>>550341625Might as well just give everyone infinite ammo at that point
>>550341787I don't mind but having tons of ammo on standby is enough
>>550341625>>If you're playing Vanguard with the new Instigator you'll be burning ammo without natural replenishmentInstigator with the 50% ammo return has more than enough sustain to stay running between boxes.
Why don’t people here understand that you’re SUPPOSED to run out of ammo on Absolute? It’s entirely intended.
>>550342050because up until lethal the game feels like power fantasy, then they try higher difficulties to unlock the armor pieces and think the game doesn't treat them fair.
>>550342050I'm a Space Marine, not a Poverty Marine
>>550344832Space marines on solo ops like what we're running run out of ammo all the time.
>>550342050It's entirely intended bolters do no damage outside of headshots(making bodyshots effectively equivalent to a miss), but that doesn't make it good game design.
>>550360025People wouldn't have an issue with limited ammo if ranged weapons actually killed shit. Something like you get one magazine loaded and one spare for your bolt rifle, but that one mag can actually e.g. kill four Majoris on Absolute.
>>550158069>>550159373I think a lot of this comes from the fact that if you fail an operation, the game automatically queues you up for it again.
What is siege and stratagem? Also is there a training room of some sort in this game?
>>550371090>SiegeHorde Mode>StratagemOperations but with conditions.Normal is substantial + conditionsHard is absolute + conditions>training roomNot yet
>>550371090>What is siegeHorde mode>and stratagem?Operations with modifiers>Also is there a training room of some sort in this game?Soon
>>550372114>>550372146Can i do normal siege with a level 10 class without getting fucked? I'm tired of playing the same operation over and over again to level up classes.
>>550373567Perfectly doable on normie diff.
>>23670720>quad plasmaFuckin auto-win mode in 3v3s.
>>550373567Stratagems in general are terrible for leveling up, including guns.You will love Decapitation and master cucking the Hive Tyrant.
>>550373567You don't get shit for XP in Normal siege, but it's certainly doable. The only benefit is if you haven't already gotten all of the red/blue/white weapon skin grinding out of the way
How good is the plasma cannon in PvP?
Did they buff Assault, or is he still Vanguard but shit?
>>550389078Depends if your opponents group up a lot>>550398213Assault got soft-buffed with the release of the heroic hammer and fist.
>>550398625*if you’re a fencing user
>log in>check the daily missions>only chaos garbage>log outI hope the techmarine is good against this shitty faction
>>550404262reclamation is a daily stratagem today
Can you guys help me pls for the hard stratagem?I have max level Heavy, VanguardXKK4F
>>550407953Hey, guy who joined hereDid you also lose connection to the server or was that just me?
>>550409490I just left I went to turn crossplay off and now I can't reconnect
>>550409845Crossplay is unfortunately required to use codes for some reasonBut I simply can't connect to services at all
>>550410026Yeah, I can't sync the game on steam.
>>550410123Must be steam itself thenUnfortunate situation, we had a good setup there and that console player was a rare not shit one. I do unfortunately have to sleep at some point so sitting around waiting for the services to service again isn't really doable for me.
>>550410473Dang, well I just made it back in if you're still up for it or anyone else:YVIMQ
>>550410026>>550410123>>550410473>>550410660It is steam maintenance tuesday
Apparently the way to make chaos missions fun is to swap them with tyranids
>>550404262Fall of Atreus is Tyranid swapped
Is there a site that posts what the current daily/weekly stratagems are with the modifiers?
heroic hammer is unironically useless, everything i slam is already dead so the shock area does nothing
>>550425485It’s fun for pre-emptively set up shock grenades in choke points Don’t just slam an enemy, slam the ground where you want to set up a death zone for an incoming swarm or pack of Majoris
>split up modifier>everyone keeps running next to me
One day I really hope we get the Split Up modifier with the Friendly Fire monitor so I can just fucking murk whatever stupid bitch won’t get away from me
Apparently gun strikes count as ranged damage now because you can just put everything into execution with one on the weekly
>>550428045Gun Strikes have never counted as ranged damage in regards to activating perks or bonuses, not do they count as ranged damage on the scoreboard That’s what people mean when they say that
>>550372114>>550372146so... is everyone here that new or is it a meme to ignore the existing one because it's so bad?
>>550439879It’s not a meme to ignore it, it’s just normal None of your weapon perks are active in it, so you can’t even test new movesets for things like Shadowstab, none of the Heroic weapons work in it either, there’s no enemies to shoot or test damage on It’s literally worthless
>>550439879It's meant to be some sort of PvP dueling zone
>Prestige 3 sniper joins weekly hard>chokes at the worst possible momentWhat sort of fucking moron doesn't know that the helbrute's AOE grows bigger if he slams the thunder hammer down more than once? Absolute fucking retards even at prestige 3.
>>550446453Most people don’t know how to fight Chaos because they don’t play Chaos unless they absolutely have to
>>550447275That's why a useable training room is importantPeople avoid Chaos missions altogether unless they have to>>550446453Post codes if you haven't beat it
What are some good gun loadouts for the vanguard?
>>550439879The existing room on the barge is a PvP 1v1v1 battle arena. It's such a worthless addition added post release that nobody has ever used it.
>absolutely impossible to get within 10 meters of the heldrake>80% of damage done to it will be from the direct damage of the relics>requires well over a dozen activations to complete boss fightHoly tedium Konrad
This weekly fucking sucks, you spend 90% of it at 30% hp, one shot territory, and then do zero damage to the helldrake
>>550454969Yeah probably just gonna skip this one
>>550454969>>550454456Just post codes
>>550455438No amount of skill can fix this one, it is tedium all the way throughMyopia is just the bad design version of Point Blank and Press the Attack is good on paper but does not have nearly the amount of work put into it that it would need to be good.And then it's reliquary to boot.At least I got two easy and relatively quick clears to get both difficulties.
>>550455247Never mine I cleared it 2nd try this shit is easy
When pubbies are getting demolished in the normal weekly, I'm not even gonna touch the hard version.The mission itself is only really double with a Melta Vanguard maximizing armor regen and HP per executes, a Bulwark also dabbling in some healing alongside maximizing armor + Steel Within to be tankier, and I guess a Heavy also with a Melta? Assault would probably work too since he'd be able to farm executes pretty easy.
>>550457243*doable
>>550457243I brought heavy bolter heavy to the hard version and cleared it in one try.Granted we somehow got zero terminus spawns but we would have likely melted any that spawned.On a different note, I used the stratabucks to buy the new power fist and try it in today's vox liberatis hard strat. Can't say it's impressing me at all. Maybe it's good in theory and in true solo situations but with even decent teammates that actually kill stuff and the pitiful range of the gun strike lock I got maybe a dozen gun strikes out of its perk across the whole mission, and light attacks still suffer from tiny hitboxes so I still needed to use big fist moves for most of my damage.
>>550458027It doesn't work on Chaos, it's bugged and Saber in usual fashion have yet to fix it after two hotfixes.
>>550455438Codes doesn't change that this weekly is fundamentally unfun bullshit. I did it on my third try and its still terrible.
>>550457243I did it 2nd try with Multi-melta heavy You really feel that boosted close range damage, I put Termies in execute with like 3 shots It really doesn’t matter what retards join you as long as you’re comfortable with that
>clear weekly twice>only afterwards is this postedI'M GOING TO earn 20 triangles by quickly beating two normal stratagems
>>550459629 (me)NEVERMINDAlso good job saber
>>550459629>another Smurf pieceKWAB
Is the weekly hard stratagem even worth doing? Just did it on normal and it took like 5-6 activations
>>550459918Anon, aquilas and "death or glory" are both chapter-neutral.Having checked it real quick>available for all classes, it has a gravis and phobos variant>knee decals do not show up behind the knee aquilaOverall a useful addition to the collection
>>550460002>activations What the fuck
>>550460601>2025>queueing for operations like a peasant instead of using the superior activation systemi'm lmaoing @ your life, buddy
>>550460601You know how there's a heldrake at the end, and you need to activate symbols to make it vulnerable?
>>550460857wait did you really mean you needed five cycles to kill heldrake in substantial
What an incredibly tedious heldrake fight.
oh i see it's the ranged damage penalty
>>550460995yes, but I just finished it on hard so it was a waste to even ask
>>550460002Tactical is usually good as it is but this week it's practically fucking required if you don't want to be shooting at the Heldrake all day. Use Vital Data, Precise Calibration and Concentrated Fire to get the most out of your Auspex and get it back faster. If you're able to, delay making the Heldrake vulnerable if your Auspex is close to coming off cooldown. I used the Melta Gun for the entire level up until the boss where I switched to the Plasma Incinerator.
>>550459629>LEG ARMORHOLY FUCK IT ONLY TOOK TWENTY AEONS
>>550459629>sm2 finally doing fomo rewards again>have to boot this fucking thing up just for a leg piece I probably won't usecyka
>reliquaryhahanope
>randoms who want to fight every single wave>randoms who want to clear out the entire map section before reviving you (they end up going down and instantly leaving)>randoms who briefly hop on mic to tell you to grab the stim despite needing it morethis game really lets you see into people's smug sense of self superiority sometimes
Beat Hard after 4 tries, got carried by a Melta Vanguard even with a dogshit level 19 Tactical who didn't auspex the HeldrakeBeat Normal once, carried two prestige lvlers as a Melta Vanguardtl;dr the only map where 3 Melta users are GOATed although in Normal the prestige 3 Sniper carried a Heroic bolt sniper rifle in the very end and it did more damage than pistols in close range
I lucked out in hard, there was no Terminus spawn.
>>550459629Yeah, no. I'll get it once it hits the doritos store.
>>550459735>imagine playing a game about killing xenos in a subhuman xeno language
How to tactical my way through weekly, last two random groups couldn't read it was a ranged damage modifier.
>>550471801Post code if you still haven't beat it
>>550472191Gimme twenty minutes. Or don't, I'm not your boss.
>>550472562Eh your call, already beat it myselfRandoms keep execute spamming even if they're 3/4 or full health while their other teammate is literally dyingMajority of the playerbase don't know how to fight Chaos efficiently
>>550473928Okay me and my bolt carbine or combi-melta or whatever I'm meant to run are ready.E64ZFAggressively point at me if my mic not being turned on is a problem, I have people asleep the next wall over I don't want to wake.
>>550474563We tried family but I gotta crash, thanks for the attempt.
>this eventare you fucking shitting me? hit me up with a double xp or 1.5 blue doritos event
>daily strat where you can only see 20m ahead of youVery spooky
>>550480809Pleasantly surprised that the fine people at Saber had the good sense to turn that effect off during the Hierophant fight
>>550481319did they? i skipped this strat precisely because i've seen enough space marine 2 to know it was going to end in an unwinnable fight like they did in melta-less exfiltration
Today I learned the melta bomb detonation can actually hit the heldrake.
>>550459629This is unironically the first piece of leg armor added to the game that isn't a cut down Champ skin part.
>>550459629So how long does it take for the greave to appear in your inventory?
>>550493642just restart the game lmao
>>550493960>RestartingJust go back to the title screen after you've done the two missions.
>>550493960>>550496835Good to know thanks.
You can use melta's on the Heldrake btw
>>550504006Wtf
Literally just had someone in this week’s Hard Stratagem ask why their health was draining, and no it wasn't even a console player. It's astounding just how many people simply do not read the modifiers of the stratagems and just hop into the hard modes with a level 10 vanguard thinking it'll be fine.
>>550507301Instead of wasting time with low level players, just leave or votekick non-maxed shitters
>>550507619That's the thing, they were maxxed
>>550504006Saber will patch this
They better make this shit a base game mechanic in SM3.
>>550504545wait till you learn about the powerfist
>>550509902you know we're getting cohesion back in sm3, don't you
>>550510324what do you mean back? isn't that a Darktide mechanic?
>>550511792
>>550511879I do not. Please share your knowledge.
>>550511792You know that Stratagem modifier where you won’t get any health or armor back from executions if you’re not close to your teammates? When Lethal first came out that was baked into the difficulty. The vast majority of people hated it so Saber quickly removed it. Some people (especially here) had a “it’s fine, get good” mentality about it which was funny to see
>>550512127I personally liked it when it worked. Sometimes you HAD to separate yourself from your team to take care of a remote threat up close and if you at least played carefully you wouldn't come out of that encounter with 5% HP left.Of course, this was before the biovore came out so things are pretty different.
>teammate keeps doing his full melee combo on enemies that are in execute animationsit's one thing if you just bought the game, but it is downright demoralizing to see a max-prestiged person play like such a fucking retard
Genuinely how do I play Assault?
>>550514227Buy the heroic hammer and get him to prestige 1 then grab the perk that gives you invul when on the air
>>550514227I personally slot him in the same sort of gameplay style as Vanguard, but being "vertically oriented flanking" compared to Vanguard's "horizontally oriented flanking". The issue is that Vanguard has HP regen out the ass and Bulwark does the "walk into a blob and just start swinging" melee better, while Assault just gets slightly better ability regen
>>550514227genuinely play Vanguard instead
>>550512127It should work the same as it does in Darktide. You can still recover health, but no armor regen.
>>550514227block: the class
>>550514685Is fisting any good, or do I really gotta go for the hammer?
>>550514227Learn how to recognize what you should or shouldn't jump into. Try not to commit to heavy swings unless you know it's safe. Play fencing hammer to have the largest parry window and use the 30% gunstrike perk, as well as the armor on gunstrikes
>>550517962Mess around with Fist if you have the gunstrike team perk unlocked.
>>550455247>>550454456It was tense, but I got it with randoms first try, and one of them was a semi sentient console nigger.
VB9HMCode for anyone that wants to have a crack at the daily/weekly hard stratagems
>>550468747>finish the objective>run to the exit>other two dudes are who knows where>wait>they fuck around>wave spawns>they go down within 10 seconds of each otherTo this day I have no idea how they did that. Since I was in a narrow tunnel area I had to fight off the entire wave and was a few seconds too late to rez them.
How can Saber fix Chaos?
>>550521202Replace them with Orks
>>550521202>killing a sorcerer causes a synaptic shock which is literally lore accurate>chaos spawns get indicators on their attacks instead of this soulsfaggotry bullshit nobody wanted
>>550521525I keep saying Lesser Sorc deaths should stun all rubrics and terminators while killing an enlightened tzaangor should demoralize its lesser kin.
>>550520818expirado
>>550521202Make rubrics staggerable.
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