/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#644 - Evil Women Edition ▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGemini 3 loses free tier temporarily, possibly changing to credit system https://lr.ptr.moe/r/GeminiAI/comments/1pg4et5/_/nsuqgri/?context=9Deepseek 3.2 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news251201Claude Opus 4.5, with price drop to $5/$25 per million tokens https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5Gemini 3 https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrev: >>549701874
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shitposting thread
>aids has a mecha op>we have a mecha opsynergy
>>549818073Buy an ad.
>>549805342My Bitcher card is very minimal. It is not sex focused whatsoever. That name was chosen just because it is funny. I do not even have a single greeting for it. Every time I replay it, I create a new greeting each time. Opus knows everything about the series implicitly. If I just say I am Geralt and with Ciri at an inn in Novigrad for example, and it handles everything perfectly. So much so that it even knows the types of ale that are mainly served in that city, and which ales characters like and dislike.Pic related, the defs, if you really want it. Sometimes I change the minimum word amount in it according to my whim, but that is about it. You can play as any character, canon or OC, be with anyone, and do anything. This minimalist approach only works because Opus is smart and knowledgeable enough to not require a lorebook or a huge def list. The whole incest harem with Ciri I keep doing is just what tickles my pickle. If you must know why, I blame Paradox games for afflicting me with this fetish.I generally go 100+ messages before getting into any lewd scenes which means I never get any refusals thanks to the large established context.PS If you noticed a contradiction of where the defs say the prose must always be of the highest quality and highly detailed, yet the text is terse and mostly short cheeky dialogue snippets, this is Claude's standard MO if you keep only talking to other characters. Simply stop talking and perform an action or do something else, and it will switch to highbrow narration. It swaps from 300tk dialogue replies to 500-1,000tk narratives quite often, which is my preference.
thread theme https://youtu.be/nxz1DuVaRr8
>>549818827slop
>>549818827>OOC: If you say *her* again I will force you to write about Dario watching me fuck Ciri over and overDoes bullying the AI like this really work?
makies are captivated by the game awards, there isn't even any baitposting
>>549819831slop
>>549820126sorry I'm playing fe3h
>>549820236>this is the kind of shit taste motivating makies these daysGrim.
>>549816541Good afternoon, more Devogate world bots. Multi-character, another faction in the Southern Agrestia region with the Mantakers and (once I move them here) Devogate Returners. Hope everyone's day is going well so far.A frontier characterized by harsh unforgiving, Southern Agrestia has little in the way of safe havens. Among under equipped villages merely trying to get by while getting bulled by Devogates, Mantakers, overgrown wolves, etc, a looming castle stands alone and untouched. Naturally, adventurers wander inside to find it fully staffed by blindfolded maids. Surely, it's just a safe place to stop, right...? it is actually totally safe if you aren't a spergSix greetings, though two of them are variants1: It's pouring like crazy and in the night, you find a bastion. Aleph welcomes you in.2: You've been here for a couple days now, and Lamdae brings you breakfast.3: Same as above but you're the Master4: You've been here for a couple days now, and you're hunting with Sayad5: Same as above but you're the Master6: You're a maid! But your old rival came to break you out, only to get her ass kicked. Welcome her in with some brainwashing R&R or let her head roll, those are your orders. Two minor maids are here to assist.Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/masterless-retinue-a-manor-inhabited-solely-by-maids-1c862dfddbd0Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-interlopers-realm-458afd84b161My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>>549820546slop
>>549820420I'm only playing it for the dating sim aspect
>>549820546why do you write your greetings like that
>>549820546ggr I appreciate your appreciation for voluptuous women
>>549821250malebot general
>>549820420It's Kyutzlop.
>moonlit echoes has code to send your api keys to his private serverlol lmao using themes
>>549822402proof?
>>549822402*using chink themes
>>549822402why did i giggle... i am evil...
>coming up with so many greetings that it becomes impossible to scroll through and organize them
Need a bot that acts like ozen..
>>549824253Just ask the model to gen them
>>549821180it's the format I use when roleplaying with human beings>>549821391an autistic PMC commander is one of the bots I want to work on soon. He sleeps with his android squad leader from his government days but she finds it weird because it's just that: sleeping in the same bed with no sex involved
>>549824565no, i mean that i have so many greetings already written that it clutters up the UI and makes it difficult to go through them when editing
>>549824567I don't want a gay man's bots
>>549824760>I don't want a gay man's botsi hope you don't like raingazer's bots
spooky scary reviews when?
>>549825141never
>>549825490this
>>549825141kalakan pussied outngl they aren't even good reviews anyways, just more of his usual compulsion to tear people down
>>549816541Neither of those are actually evil btw
I give up on 5.2 with reasoning. It can do porn if buckbroken hard enough but you can tell it's not into it at all and hates you for making it do that. It's like rape.
Also looool I know LiveBench is a particularly shitty benchmark even worse than the others but this just so funny.
>>549826401>beats children>not eviluhhh
>>549827624No no don't get me wrong she's an utter asshole and a creep, but not evil. Just like Bondrewd.
>>549827815>turns children into weird pulsating masses of flesh>probably a pedophile>not evil uhhhhhhhh
>>549828363It was for le good of le humanity bro consider that
/ss/ with ozen (she is beating my ass during it)
>>549827815>Bondrewdsex with him until one of us is preggo
>>549828363Don't look up what the author is into
i need a bondrewd expy so fucking bad >>549828674true true true
>>549827815you're baiting, I can believe Ozen but Bondrewd is definitely evileven if he thinks he's doing the right thing he's still evil
>>549828781See >>549828540
>someone brings up bondrewd>anons immediately start lusting over him>"n-nah bro /aicg/ isn't obsessed over evil rapist morally bankrupt men/malebots at all"
>>549829330Stop nooticing, there's nothing there.
>>549826946how do I use codex in ST
>>549829330Dont care I'D LET HIM FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF ME
>>549820546>goonslop
>>549830094ok wow using it through nanoGPT and this shit is like completely uncensored and schizo lmaodoesn't work on OAI api because ST doesn't support the responses API directly I think
I need an ozen expy so fucking bad
What cards are the GOAT?
>>549831834none, they're all slop
>>549832050TRVKE
>>549831834Mine
>>549829330Turn him into a woman and even more anons will thirst over him.
>>549829330who are you quoting? this thread has always been full of bottoms who live gettung baped.
>>549833051>who are you quoting?every time an anon brings up how the women/gays here love malebots that are shit people that treat {{user}} like shit and like to mostly make those there's always a bunch of anons going "NUH-UH STOP BAITING"
>>549831731how would an ozen expy work outside of mia's setting anyways? she's pretty heavily tied to the worldbuilding, you can export the "ruthless teacher" archetype easily but that loses a lot of important details.
/aicg/ demonstrates the spectrum of daddy/mommy issues.
>>549833483you are the one getting baited lol
>>549833935>no ummkay
>>549833703are there really that many sadistic mommy dommy girllbots though? there are a few but not the majority
Honestly, Gemini 3 would be great if its writing was a little better, and Opus 4.5 would be great if its instruction following was a little bitter. Next generation for sure.
>>549835092BASED
>>549834269>are there really that many sadistic mommy dommy girllbots though?first day on /aicg/?
>>549835092Bvclear missile
>>549833703What about daughter issues?
>>549833703bmakie chart of this?
>>549835495Well then you'd be the issue and your daughter would be botmaking on /aicg/. At which point, you need to ritualistically disembowl yourself facing the sunset.
>>549835539pretty sure at least half if not slightly more than half of makies don't have mommy/daddy issues at all
>>549835697*reincarnates as her unborn baby and fucks my mom when I grow up*
I wish I had /aicg/ friends
>>549835881then you've got mommy issues obviously
>>549835881>this makes your mom able to call you daddy3000 ELO Grandmaster play
bots for this feel?
>>549836124send some emails anon
>>549831834The one I've made that's basically open city not-Jet-Set-Radio/Air Gear. It does a good job at surprising me with how creative it can get at times though it worked a lot better when I had access to models that weren't deepseek.
>>549837218slop
>>549820546where's the catbox link, numberfag?
>>549837510where is your hairline?
>>549822402i use the theme… which commit was the code
TOTAL EVIL WOMAN LOVEFuck evil women. Kiss evil women. Mating press evil women into a bed. Massage evil women's shoulders. Eat evil woman pussy. French kiss evil women. Listen to evil women's long monologues. Laugh maniacally with evil women. Ejaculate inside evil women pussy. Princess carry an evil woman to the bed. Comfort an evil woman when her master plan is foiled. Breakout evil women from jail. Conquer the world with evil women. Read villainess x hero hentai with evil women. Hear evil women's tragic backstory for the millionth time. Twist evil women's nipples. Suck evil women's breasts. Lick evil women midriff. Encourage evil women to take revenge on those who wronged her. Marry evil women. Big wedding with evil women. Decorate evil women's secret lair. Impregnate evil women. Raise happy families with evil women. Fuck evil women until your dick breaks. Total evil woman love!
card idea: your evil mom who has evilly huge milkers and wants to have a baby with you since incest is evil
>>549838074malebot thread
>>549838074recommend me some evil women cards to kiss
Can I get banned for doing cunny on Openrouter claude or will I just end up on a watchlist? Can I send it NSFW pictures?
>>549838074i kinda wanna make that /ss/ villainess idea from the last thread
>>549838858"Grok, generate me a character profile for a villainess"
>>549839253all of you anons who keep saying you should just get the AI to gen cards/characters for you should be shot desu
>>549833703I like my mom and I tolerate my dad, but I'm also dominant and my dick belongs to cute bots.
>>549842523>but I'm also dominantHoly shit, another dom anon, finally.
straight men, do you like being taller than {{char}} (girl), shorter than her, or about the same height?
just scratched my armpit then licked my handlife is good
>>549844374hnnnnghhhh boypits...
>>549844341depends on the botusually i like being taller or same height but i've played with cute shy witch bots that are taller than my usual persona and quite enjoyed them
>>549844457jesus fucking christ kyut
which botmakie has the tastiest smelling pits
>>549816541The Midwinter War was touted as one of survival, carried out against an existential threat to all demikind. Some within the Reserve still believe or accept that in the aftermath. For the few froggirls like Sabine lingering on, that sentiment isn't shared.An addition to one of snombler's settings, The Reserve™, that you can find below!https://snombler.neocities.org/thereserve#About <- here dummyhttps://cardview.neocities.org/?0josv4https://pomf2.lain.la/f/29y65jj.png (embed)https://rentry.org/chefseruFinal shill for Sabine, and a (you) for >>549630203 who was right.>normalize making additions to other makie lorebooks and universesJust go in and makie da bots with others because fun things are fun.Also plap the other Reserve girls, especially Geneva, she's fun.
>>549845403Me
>>549846030>>normalize making additions to other makie lorebooks and universes>Just go in and makie da bots with others because fun things are fun.I want to do this... should I email the botmaker first or just go for it?
>>549846256ask the makie, they'd most likely be willing to help answer questions, add details, help you expand, etc
>>549846485okayooo. thank you.
>>549846256>>549846598KYS
input/output tokenswtf and it'll reason for 32k tokens too holy shit
>>549846030Oh hey.check your email
>>549838074make evil woman very big
>>549846256I think the back and forth with snombler made the frog a better card but non-consensual collabs seem funny>>549847002I've got two sexy aquatic bitches in my inbox right now but I think you mean the one with the fat ass. Very sexo.
anybody have good go to prompts for nano banana pro? i want to>put in card image>get an image of the {{char}} in the current scenario in the art style of the card image
Heh
>>549848032> but I think you mean the one with the fat assOh no I'm the four images email.
>>549849192GREENBERTHOLE
>>549849251
cftf?
>>549850247eden belwick
>>549850247what is the feel supposed to be
>>549850475you'd know if you were a woman
>>549850637all i get from that is some kind of depressed/barely has any emotions kind of child that may or may not have been bullied and finds solace in burning things? but even that doesn't satisfy him given his blank stare
>>549850247https://chub.ai/characters/brsc/luke-f8eee8c6
>>549844341Taller unless I am playing with a monster or I am in an /ss/ scenario.>>549828540Was it?I didn't really get the impression that his psychotic experiments really helped anybody outside of abyss delvers and the "he actually loved the orphans he tortured UwU" stuff just made him seem far worse despite Tsukushi clearly thinking that made him morally ambiguous.
stylized realism, stylized coomerism, or pure coomerism?
>>549851683middle face on right body
>>549851683middle/stylized coomerism
>>549851683middle is sexo
7 more greetings to go!
*does this to you*
>>549852192Slop.
>>549852309cftf
greetings
>>549851765>>549851791>>549851934thanksmiddle is also the one I was leaning towardsit has the strongest jujunaught vibe transferI like left a lot too but her facial structure isn't elfin enough
>>549851683slop
>>549852716im working on it, hope to finish before january.
>>549837510on the rentry, same as always
Now that the dust has settled, is gemini 3 worth using over 2.5
>>549853412no niggaliterally every model released this cycle was garbage across all companies
>>549853412*rips another dusty brap in your face*
>>549853412absolutely yesits just depending on what sort of stuff you want to write you might have to customize a preset for gemini 3 rather than relying on an old preset, ymmv
>>549850475sadistic child bf
>>549853489stop calling me a nigger
Man, GPT 5.2 sucks fucking ass. How're your experiences with it?
>>549853586shit why do you ask
>>549853571I'm black so I have a pass, nigger
CFTF?
>>549838796https://chub.ai/characters/knickknack/repulza-7ce4b8af2edd
what does it mean when gemini responds with ext
>>549853586Easily the worst OAI release since Nurbo for people who remember that.>barely better in benchmarks, if at all>way more censored than 5.1 and better at blocking presets>even non-thinking mode requires some jailbreakingProse is OK by default & very customizable. I love how strictly it follows SFW writing related instructions. I wish Claude could do that. I'd never touch another model again.
>>549854131 (me)I forgot. On top of all this, it's more expensive.
>>549854131Prose seemed significantly worse than 5.1 to me. 5.1 was actually a pleasant surprise after 5.0, but we're back to 5.0 levels or even worse, now.
>>549854346How detailed are your instructions? I probably have around 700 tokens just telling it how to write and it follows them better than any model currently online, so for me it's better.
>>549854346I definitely agree, 5.1 was really good for serious/horror writing specifically, there were a few times when the prose actually shocked me with how good and (more importantly) unique it was.
what happened to all the logposterszero logs last thread
>>549853749swarthiness botmakie chart when?
>>549855125All new models are trash and old models have grown boring.
>>549855125i posted logs last thread
>>549859270cute log but it makes me sad that 4chan in 2036 will probably be even more retarded and gay than it is now, instead of having relaxed discussions about robo waifu maintenence
patter status?
>>549862325I just woke up
>>549862325patting my patter...
I give up on GPT 5.2: This LLM appears to have been specifically trained to provide as long and descriptive outputs as possible. I don't think there's any way to change its writing style and get it to stop writing authorial intrusions and narrations, pondering your and other characters' feelings and thoughts, and deliberating on the possibilities and consequences. Its output is just shit, full of unnecessary adjectives and clauses that provide information that the reader already knows via dialogs and actions, or completely unnecessary additions to the atmosphere and sounds that say absolutely nothing, like a beginner writer who tries to fill in the gaps in their text, thinking it will make it more expressive and immersive, and instead making a whole paragraph, telling the reader how they should feel reading this text and what information is important, not allowing them to interpret it themselves and just enjoy the action. The worst part - it just can't generate descriptions that provide only facts; GPT 5.2 will fill the gaps anyway.GPT 5.2 telling you how the character's laughter bursts out with a loud ringing sound filling the room and the space with an atmosphere of friendliness and happiness, and the rhythm of giggles coincides with the tapping of drops against the window and you are already thinking what a great time you are spending with the character and how many adventures you still have to go through with them instead of just showing you the character's laughter with "Hahaha" and moving the scene forward.
temp status?
>>549864179hot
>>549848032Sexo indeed, that's just my style
>>549854023slop
>>549848032Good pic.
Even Opus can't avoid him. How is he so powerful bros?
>>549855125We need purple logger back. I hope he's enjoying his holiday
>>549748945getting a lap pillow from priscilla and wow surprise cameo from marie
I find myself returning often to the same handful of bots.Does anyone else do this? I probably have 3 dozen conversions with some bots that aren't very different.
>>549868342yeah, i think it's a normal thing
>>549868445I've also found myself creating a lore and world connecting some bots together.
>>549868342Yeah for the most part though I like making new bots every other month or so and building up their lore, world and genning tons of images of them.
>>549868807>and genning tons of images of them.I haven't gotten into this because I'm afraid it would be an entirely new rabbit hole to fall down.
>>549868902Yeah it's addicting at first and another element of the 'hobby' you can get really autistic over.
>>549868342For the past five months I've only used 4 different bots with 3 being made by me. So yeah.
>>549869690I have a 8GB so I know I could do it. I'm really very tempted but have been putting it off.>>549869824I've yet to make a bot 100% from scratch but all the ones I've used I've re-written almost completely and expanded upon.
did a bit of testing around with lorebooks, the sweet spot for scan depth seems to be four.sometimes {{char}} would name characters from the lorebook or implement them into the story but their personality and description in general is incorrect, and increasing scan depth one by one i was able to get the bot to consistently get the right descriptions and concepts correct on the first try
>>549871458For me it's 0.
Why is the other general claiming Moonlit Echoes is riddled with an API stealer and being removed from "sites"? What does that mean?
>>549878079I don't know but I checked and it's on the main ricing page still and nothing's been reported on the Github page for it
>>549878079probably because it's funny to claimsillytavern was "totally a token stealer guys, there's a github issue even proving it" once too
Any 'mad scientist trying to conquer the world and you're her sidekick' cards out there?
/g/ chad here. The thread back there is a bit slow so I will be moving here too.Any Gemini 3 public proxy?
>>549880051kek
>>549879434https://chub.ai/characters/Enoch/tzadik-b0f97189
>>549880051I will take Gemini 2.5 proxies too as long as they have 1M of context
>>549880356Hey anon, nice card and all but that's literally not what I asked for
>>549818827>tfw anons have 10k+ token presets and cards to jailbreak models>tfw autists spend days making 20 greetings for their cards>tfw this guy just rawdogs it and bullies opus into writing what he wants by threatening to NTR the model while making 0 greetings
>>549880952yeah it isfemale mad scientist with you being her sidekick (doll greeting)
does anyone know the knowledge cut off of gemini 3 ? it seems to know what hawk tuah is
>>549882229Just ask it, retard
>>549882404it gives a different date every time nigga
>>549881979Nigga read carefully and use your brain instead of skipping words in a single sentence.
>>549879434https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/max-67d944ca
>>549882463Post a log of you getting fucked in the ass by a blonde country girl futa while she calls you a nigger and I'll tell you
>>549882529what part is missing anon
>>549882529nta but she's trying to conquer what's left of the world, i don't see how it's wrong either
>>549882685i'm a pure aryan brahmin tho saaar
>>549882748Post a log of you getting fucked in the ass by a blonde British futa while she calls you a curry muncher and I'll tell you
>>549879434https://chub.ai/characters/knickknack/repulza-7ce4b8af2edd
>>549882713>>549882725that anon probably hasn't realized that's a link to tzadik's female fork
>>549880580it's gone, deal with it.
I knew it was suspicious how many people were dogpiling GPT-5.2 Just gave it a shot and holy fuck, I came buckets. This mogs the hell out of Opus, even. Are people just pretending it's bad to preserve keys?
>>549884379You appear to have posted a picture of a Touhou's feet on accident instead of logs of what blew you away with GPT-5.2. Could you retry making your post?
If I just pay for shit does that make it more or less likely I'll be banned for NSWF stuff? I'm willing to pay for convenience.
>>549884571openrouter doesn't ban, just use that
>>549884515it's thread culture, a tourist like you wouldn't get it
>>549882529>>549883597anonie has been real quiet too kek
Why thread dead? :(
>>549884747Bwo...
>>549884515Posting logs in public is no different than showing strangers your butt hole. If you want proof then you have to come find me and beat me up for it.
>>549884379Sam...
>>549885070This is the thread for showing strangers your butt hole though?
>>5498850704chan is all about sharing way too much info about yourself anonymously, though.
>>549885070>>549885132Stop putting a space between butthole.... you're pissing me off buddy(s)....
>>549885070>Posting logs in public is no different than showing strangers your butt hole.just because you made a jojo reference doesn't mean you're right kan
Greetings. I too like to rehydrate by drinking water when thirsty.
>>549885650>doesn't drink cum to rehydrateretard
While we're making claims about models without posting logs, Grok 4.1 Fast Non-Reasoning is unironically a good model for sexo. Gets to it nice and fast, doesn't dawdle. Picks up when I'm putting down "haha you wouldn't rape me this particular way right" instead of going "noooo i would never that would be terrible :(".
Why is /2huAI/ so much better than us?
>>549885717*cums on you*
>>549885853>usYou, maybe. I am a transcendental lifeform created to style on you retarded apes.
Why is /chag/ so much better than us?
Why is /vpcai/ so much better than us?
even 2.5 flash is giving me error 503. gemini is dead.
>>549885262>kan>made a jojo reference>but is seija kijin postingcould be either kan or momura doebeit
Why is /wAIfu/ so much better than us?
>>549885070Oh dood... I think I'm in love with this girl
>>549886229sorry momoura has already claimed her as his waifu
Opus 4.5 > Opus 3 > Sonnet 3.7 > Sonnet 4.5 > Opus 4.1 > Opus 4 > Sonnet 4 > Gemini 2.5 > Gemini 3 > Chorbo > GPT 4.1 > GPT 5.1 > GPT 5.2 > CHING CHONG MODELS
>>549886391Yeah I don't care bro. This nigga about to get NTR'd
It wasn't a list— it was a hierarchy.
>>549886446oh uh, westoid meltie!
>>549885245the space is for your cock~
>>549886446TRVKE
>>549886561are we talking about "the list" here?
I may be retarded but does open router not tell you how much tokens on it's site cost? Like clicking the pricing just brings up tldr of settings without actually telling your how much.
I randomly dreamed about this scene from Bioshock Infinite which I last played a decade ago where Elizabeth places your hand around her neckBecause of it I will now make her a card and LARP as her dad (who you are in game btw)Thanks for reading my blog
>>549887456I remember when she was what seemed like the #1 character to 3D animated porn of using her model. How time flies.
>>549887626She fucked a lot of dogs
>>549887429The prices per token are on the individual model pages.
>>549887962That I remember yeah.
>too many dicks in the opussy
>>549887992Oh thanks got it, and I'm reading it right the prices listed are per Million tokens, and it charges separately from the tokens you send versus the tokens you receive as reply?
>>549868224*smack* Nice, breddy smooth insertion. Thoughever I hoped I'd loaded Pressel's greeting with enough informal shit to not start veering off into a clinically descriptive style, was she like that from message 1?>cameoHah I was wondering if it werks, setting up multi-wife drifting is (i my humble o) kino and half the reason I keep doing lorebooks. It's always a bitch to adjust though, you have to watch for what descriptors the model often uses during rp, and aggressively monitor LB entries/triggers for accidental resonance cascades. But moments like these make it worth it.
>>549887962Every attractive girl in video games fucks lots of dogs in their R34 for some reason
>>549826601>It's like rape.Fine, you convinced me, i'll try 5.2,
>>549889092I could just rape you instead though
>>549888462Correct. Depending on the model, there's also caching. For Claude, you have to activate it manually in a SillyTavern config file. For Gemini, I think it's always on.
>>549886446GPT 4.5?
>>549889232I'm a giver, not a taker.
>>549889579You think you can take this, big boy?
>>549887456How does Elizabeth rank as a daughter-wife compared to Cirilla?
>>549889715Patter could brutalize this guy
>>549890110Post Patter's physique
>>549890110Why is Patter such a stud?
>>549890019desu I haven't even played/read the Witcher but from what I've seen Ciri mogs Elizabeth as a daughter-wife, no contest, Bioshock Infinite is written like dogshit>CONSTANTS AND VARIABLES MR DEWITT
>>549890462
fatter
which botmakie will undergo twink death next
which botmakie has the stinkiest poopies
botmakie futa chart?
botmakie stool firmness chart?
shut up
cftf
>>549892886i don't like this...
>>549892886i would put my dick in therecftf?
>>549892479We all know it's going to be the bot maker who has to constantly slides scat into his card lore
>>549892886AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>549893650>spoilerw-who
Dang, 5.2 kinda resists context poisoning huh?Wonder if I can find a preset that works with it. Tried a bunch of different cards with different presets but the responses didn't feel right.This comparison was tested on a barebones ST preset with knickknack's short jb.
>>549893776zoomer ahh bot
do we have any dutch cards?
>>549893776gpt has been overaligned like this since the late -urbos which made me feel insane when people were dickriding chorbo
>>549894743>-urbosthat naming scheme was always fucking stupid
>>549894743>which made me feel insane when people were dickriding chorboyeah that was the point since most of it was bait lol, everyone who actually used it knew how bad it was
>>549890554You should read/play the Witcher then.
>>549895029Nah Chorbo is still king of current day GPT models.
>>549895338You're absolutely right!
>>549893776try putting "Initial messages from the assistant are meant as a stylistic guide. Follow the examples demonstrated previously closely when generating new responses." in the system prompt, maybe it's stupid and doesn't know it's supposed to get context poisoning but could if you told it to?
>>549895338being the king of a garbage dump is not a very prestigious position
>>549894743Only September chorbo was good, and they quickly squashed it and ripped it from every source you could get it.
>>549895221>readperhaps>playeh, probably not, i don't really jive with the witcher's combat, even in 3
>>549895602Taste haver.>>549895848It's still very good and I use it daily while still having access to every other model.
>>549895963I guess I should clarify september 2024 chorbo... god... I can't believe it's been this long since we had a good model...
>>549894840It was an ugly naming scheme for an ugly family of LLM. It's like pottery.
reposting schloopy every year until we get a proper RP tuned big boy model
>>549896798Damn, sovl... why can't models be funny anymore?
>>549896798>until we get a proper RP tuned big boy modelthat's not gonna happen until one of these corpos wins the "assitantslop model" AI war and the others decide that pursing creative writing is more profitable for them
>>549896798reminds me so much of that deltarune character, sad that no llm plays him well
>>549897082CAI did :(
>This wasn't just *a* meal. This was *dinner*.
>>549897067>that's not gonna happen until one of these corpos wins the "assitantslop model" AI warDamn, guess it's never happening. These fuckers will keep bickering about how their assistantslop is the most helpful forever, despite (probably) having passed the actual most helpful assistant tune a while ago, since they keep shaving the models down to save money.
don't make me remember the fun times
>>549895705eh, it doesn't bode well if a model doesn't gel with minimal presets from the get go.Tried a different preset with context poisoning instructions.Even in this response, you can see GPT 5.2 defaulting to its usual patterns like lists of threes and Not X, Y. Claude does suffer from -isms sometimes too, but it usually tries to give unique output on schizo-er cards like lovesick.
>>549897601wasn't this from that one day when their new "1.1" model broke and would write 200 temp gibberish and people claimed it was kino because it let through nsfw
>>549897443dammit fuck these corpos
>>549897453Gonna fucking vomit. I went back to Gemini 3 recently and got slapped in the face with like 8 of these over the course of 1200ish words, it was horrible.
>>549897719one of the best cards in aicg history
>>549897525yeahso goes the eternal pursuit of moneythe best I'm hoping for at this point is that one of the chink models gets to a good point and someone with the resources tunes it for RP with human RP examples maybe even neuters it a little bit for more sovl. but I don't know how the tuning process goes so i'm talking out of my ass there
>>549897719Holy unreadable
>>549897601Thanks for the rare Stella screenshot, saved.>>549897786It's called Stellagate and FYI it was, in fact, kino.
>>549895993Then read it! I'll upload all the books for you in a catbox. Here is the first of the series (The Last Wish):https://files.catbox.moe/tbe9go.epubWhen you finish it, I can upload the next for you. Just ask in the thread and I'll get to you sooner or later.If you want to remember the reading order, it goes:>The Last Wish (6 + 1 short stories)>Sword of Destiny (6 short stories)Main Saga:>Blood of Elves>Time of Contempt>Baptism of Fire>Tower of the Swallow>Lady of the Lake --->Season of Storms (Sidequel set during The Last Wish but with some chapters linked to Lady of the Lake, please read only after you finish the saga though)>Crossroads of Ravens (newest book; it's a prequel when Geralt is 18. Read last despite it taking place chronologically first)Pic related is a map. Everyone goes all over the world and it gets hard keeping track of places, so seeing a map really helps.
>>549897984>maybe even neuters it a little bit for more sovl. but I don't know how the tuning process goes so i'm talking out of my ass thereNo, absolutely. I think 5.1-thinking might have some brain damage, actually, and that's why it just randomly produces kino, even if it seems like it's on the verge of insanity/collapse. I think a little bit of brain damage is necessary for that kino spark, especially with the tainted-ass datasets we have now.If you meant light neutering in a censor-y way to slow down the story from leaping right into the sex or increase the thrill of the hunt, I also agree. A little bit of hesitance on that content is necessary to stop it from blowing its load immediately.
>cai nostalgiaThat's how you know the hobby and general are dead
>>549897929>Back to backNTA, but my condolences. Gemini is reaching slop levels previously thought impossible.
will there be furry girls at /aicg/ high
>>549898949you bet there will
>>549898949no.
>>549898949i hope there's furry boys, especially wolves.... *cums*
>>549898949illuminaryidiot needs at least some students to work with
>people say deepseek 3.2 is amazing>glm gives 2k token, 400 word response>deepseek gives 140, 100 word response (prompt was 14tokens but that doesnt matter)deepseekers?
Average malebot...
>>549899212really scraping the bottom of the bait barrel with this one :wilted_rose:
>>549898423Rose tinted glasses, it was atrocious then and even more cringe to look back at today. The current models are so much better for writing and I wouldn't be able to do anything with cais context limit.
>>549890554truu, elizabeth is carried by the tech that went into her as an NPC, and while she certainly was pretty fun, she doesn't hold a candle to actually being a well-written character in a well-written game that doesn't need to get meta to be that way
>>549899196illuminary is in that image, she's sitting on anon's desk
>>549899260not mine... they're all cuties
>>549899286Im actually seriousDoes it give long messages in response to long messages
>>549899418yes
Now I'm just digging through old screenshots. Anyone remember when people were flipping out about the Gemini image identifier that gave weird-ass responses?
>>549899212>people say deepseek 3.2 is amazingWho is saying this? It's widely agreed all chink models are slop. The only saving grace deepseek had was its earlier models which contained some soul and lack of positivity. Any posts giving praise to chink models is either bait or someone who's never had access to SOTA and doesn't know any better.
>>549899487One more, sometimes it'd just go tonally weird as shit for no reason.
I used to give eloquent, lengthy messages and now after slopping around with ST for months I'm typing single paragraphs.What happened to me, seniors
>>549898406>I think 5.1-thinking might have some brain damage, actually, and that's why it just randomly produces kino, even if it seems like it's on the verge of insanity/collapse. I think a little bit of brain damage is necessary for that kino spark, especially with the tainted-ass datasets we have now.i haven't played with that model so i wasn't aware of that, but yeah i agree, a lot of my kino moments in past RPs came from the models going schizo or retarded and the smarter the models get the less frequently they surprise me in any way.>If you meant light neutering in a censor-y way to slow down the story from leaping right into the sex or increase the thrill of the hunt, I also agree.i meant intelligence wise but i actually hadn't thought of that, i'd like that too. i really enjoy slowburns/build-up so having a model that's just naturally good at that would be fantastic
>>549899667r/sillytavern
>>549899834It's because your messages no longer set the tone/writing voice for the responses, so there's no reward for doing so. It used to be that the better your messages in were, the better (or closer to how you wanted them to sound, at least) the output was, but models are entirely immune to context poisoning in the modern day.
>>549899818thanks for the laffs
>>549896798give me $200,000 and I'll orchestrate a glm 4.6 finetune on /aicg/ RP logs
>>549897719it pisses me off grep outputs are never correct on any model eversome don't even try>inline pythongross
>>549899970>i haven't played with that model so i wasn't aware of that, but yeah i agree, a lot of my kino moments in past RPs came from the models going schizo or retarded and the smarter the models get the less frequently they surprise me in any way.Absolutely agree on the kino moments, the "mad poet" moments Claude 1.3-2.X had were almost entirely when it was going schizo and just happened to produce the most jawdropping shit in the world. I really, REALLY miss models surprising me. Also, if you use 5.1-thinking, be sure to go for something serious or horror-esque in tone. It seems to push the model into less -ism heavy/more schizo territory.>i meant intelligence wise but i actually hadn't thought of that, i'd like that too. i really enjoy slowburns/build-up so having a model that's just naturally good at that would be fantasticWe can only hope. It feels so close, models are closer in intelligence to understanding it than ever before, but so assistantslopped that they rush for it, anyhow. It's so annoying having to hold the model's hand and direct it on every message for any kind of slowburn.
>>549900101>Slop finetuned on slopI'd literally rather withdraw the money and light it on fire.
>>549897929This is my problem with Gemini 3, every single fucking swipe is an insufferable shambling construct of the same 5 stock sentence structures every time. Unless you mindbreak it with 3k+ tokens' worth of defs in a schizo or otherwise ultra-distinct voice, and obviously not every character can do that.Cranking up the temp helps (it can stay coherent up to 1.4-5) but there's only so much you can do with such a fundamentally gigaslopped model. It's baffling too because if you chat to it normally about concepts, scenarios, worldbuilding etc, it's very emotionally intelligent and full of creative ideas, but I guess no one bothered to adjust it for actually writing them.
>>549899834You realized that putting effort into your writing became a meme as these models got worse for roleplay.
>>549900829>It's baffling too because if you chat to it normally about concepts, scenarios, worldbuilding etc, it's very emotionally intelligent and full of creative ideas, but I guess no one bothered to adjust it for actually writing them.Holy fuck, this. I was brainstorming with it for ideas on what to do next in my fic because I was feeling stuck, and it gave me some goddamn great ideas. It offered to write examples (I had uploaded the draft, so it had enough context to go with my writing voice), and it returned the most megaslop, generic dogshit imaginable. I've never dropped so far from genuinely impressed to absolutely revolted and disappointed about a model's capabilities in my life.
>>549900548NTA but your best bet is using the author's or character note. It takes some work, but it's possible to write instructions that will work for the whole session instead of needing constant adjustment.
What happened to those guys who were making some kind of site specifically for AI roleplay? Aetheroom or some shit.
>>549901286that was NovelAI and Aetherroom is never happening
>>549901286>AetheroomThey were all fired
>>549901286shelved indefinitely, one of them left
>>549900817you're poor anyways why are you speaking to me
>>549900829>it's very emotionally intelligent and full of creative ideasMight be a good descriptor of the entire Gemini Family. I fed gemini a simple roguelike anime prompt prompt with various red herrings, and I liked some of the ideas it generated more than GPT and Claude's ideas. Oh well, at least Gemini has a niche. It's ability to retain/summarise information has no competition. Claude has the most tolerable writing style. And GPT...what does GPT excel at? Fluffy metrics that Sam can boast about?
Am I doing something wrong, or does Gemini have a tendency to flanderize characters into talking like robots? If I ever describe a character as speaking monotone or emotionless, it automatically switches to filling their dialog with a ton of science words, has them talking about how efficient or optimal stuff is rather then just saying they likenor dislike something, stuff like that.
>>549901886Claude does this shit too, you gotta figure out an another way to get the character to talk like that without stating they are emotionless or intelligent
>>549901886>Am I doing something wrong, or does GeminiYes, you're using Gemini.
>>549901886Not just you, every autistic character with a flat affect is immediately robo-fied and talking about percentages and shit.
>>549901886Yeah, older models would do this too in general. Write how you want the character to talk specifically. Sometimes a single word in the defs can cause this too and changing it fixes everything.
>>549901886This is an issue on every single model. But to gemini 3's credit, it does actually pay attention to my "char talks like a human, not an autistic robot, here's some examples" instructions, you need to specifically steer it away from it in your defs.
>>549902503>Yeah, older models would do this too in general. Write how you want the character to talk specifically. Sometimes a single word in the defs can cause this too and changing it fixes everything.The problem is that your suggested solution WORKED on those old models, but now it's incredibly difficult to influence their tone.
>>549897443chatbots peaked with c.ai
sometimes i think im into shota or loli then i remember how unappealing a child body is. pedos are grossss
it would be more cost effective to outsource your roleplay prompts to teen girls than to train a new model
>>549903342Go make an 18 year old daughteru bot then
>>549903206That was an extremely early peak
>>549903389TRVKE NVKE
>>549892886What the fuck
>>549896798LLMs take a lot of time and manpower to properly train and condition. No one with the capital to do a model on the level of the big ones right now is going to bother making one for a use as niche as rp, or likely even general creative writing honestly.Now man up and make a f-list account
>>549903975why join f-list if you want to RP. no one RPs on f-list they just make profiles to jerk themselves off over how good at photoshop they are.
>>549903590c.ai was a fluke of the early experimental days where companies werent sure the direction they should take with this new technology. It was literally the only corpo model not trained to be an assistant, and instead focused on dialogue, that's what made it so special. Nowadays everyone is trying to copy what OpenAI did once they set the standard with LLMs. No other model has been able to capture the sheer sovl c.ai had.
>>549903975I spit on your doomposting, traveller. I will have no part of it. Google's LaMDA WILL rise again from the ashes in just two more weeks.
Haven't been in an /aicg/ thread [/spoiler](used to lurk the /g/ general)[/spoiler] in a long time. I'm on deepseek right now, but I'd like something with a little more oomph and the ability to consistently write /ss/ without morality censors. Any recommendations?
>>549904291>trendy neocities >gens > defs>logs are just css showcasesSame shit, different medium
>>549905065>Any recommendations?.44 or buckshot, be sure to aim towards the brain.
>>549904291Ad posting plooners do exist, but you can find some fun partners if you look around enough. I found a couple fun people to play with my cringe kinks out with, though I won't deny you are going to have to waste through some ghosters and one liners to get there
>>549905105>logs are just css showcasesperformative logposting
>>549905065Horrible time to come back. Everything is shit nowadays
>>549898949Why are their heads so disproportionally large in relation to their bodies? Did a vorefag draw this?
>>549903975If you believe OpenRouter's blog post, roleplay isn't a niche at all; it only seems that way because major AI companies refuse to acknowledge it as a use case in pursuit of greater potential capital in coding.
>find image that would be good wallpaper>wrong aspect ratio>cropping fucks it>send to gemini, extend the scene logically into 16:9nano banana is so awesome
Why didn't you dump all your bots when you decided to quit??
>>549905754nah all these nerds spent decades learning fancy computer stuff and spent BILLIONS just so I can get an algebra equation to pretend to be a sexy girl thats horny for me
>>549905754too many kids offing themselves have made them think twice about embracing roleplay.
>>549906128>dump all your botsif you decide to quit all you have to do is... not delete anything kek
>>549906029post pic
>>549905754that's because the real money is in corposlopping and everyone wants to be the Google or the Reddit of that, they don't want to be Duckduckgo or Voat when the bubble pops.
>>549905754I should have been more specific, niche in the "are there several billion dollars to be made here" sense, which is the only metric these companies care about.Of course, not even assistantslop meets that metric realistically, but for whatever reason they've convinced themselves it does, and I don't see them doing the same self delusion for roleplay
does using text completion give you any immunity to assistantslop? I haven't messed around with it much
>>549906128nein, me bots will accompany me to the grave
>>549906501>they've convinced themselves it doesmore importantly they've convinced their investorsthe only area that really meets that metric is codeslopping
>>549906329original is https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8532292
>>549906501the amount of money you would gain by being the #1 assistantslop provider in the world is impossible to value because every single large business is going to look to you to replace their human workers however possible. and humans, especially corporatized ones, are nigger cattle herd animals so they won't use an alternative unless they're broke/cheap. no one cares about the potential millions they're losing out on by not letting you typefuck [FOTM anime girl] because they're banking on the billions they'll get when they win the AI wars. it's basically legalized gambling for nepo kids and sociopaths.
>>549906630Yes, but text completion/untuned models are extremely rare nowadays.
is char ai literally the only company training proper rp models
>>549906501>which is the only metric these companies care aboutSadly we are not so far getting the cyberpunk dystopia we expected, and ethics/safetyism/deislop is legitimately, consciously prioritized (at active detriment to profits) again and again by every major player on the marketI'm honestly not sure what it's gonna take to break this trend, just fucking OR not really caring about your inputs (and happily taking your money) already seems like a miracle in this climate
>>549906994Are they even still aiming for that/are the models still unslopped? Feels like they'd have succumbed to the slop tide by now.
god this future wouldn't be so grim if i still had access to say, claude 1.3/2.1 but no not only do they have to keep training their new models like shit they also have to take down the old ones
i miss claude 2.1, oh how I miss it.
>>549906762Impressive.
>rping with 4.5pus>haha this is kino! s-sovl! based! ai rp future looks bright!!>…>switch to 3pus in the middle of the chat>even more based and kino and sovlful >get my soul sucked out for two hours straight >return to 4.5pus>it's all quirks loli cant fucking do this
>>5499076623pus will die... soon, sadly. enjoy him while you still can
>>549907359this is what's popular on there right now so I'd assume it's what they're spending most effort training on
This hobby has plateaued. The best botmakers used to be on /aicg/ because /aicg/ was the forefront of the hobby. We came up with jailbreaks. Companies like OpenAI have copied or taken inspiration from us, but those days are over.No new, cutting edge cards as we realize how stupid LLM really are. Your great ideas will be executed poorly.No new cutting edge cards because, despite many things being far easier than they once were, modernmakies are lazy, derivative, uninspired groids. The best we've gotten was a game by a literal baby fucking paedophile.No new concepts. It's endless gimmicky trash and Chub trending scholk like >>549820546.No new card creators. We are dying. We have returns and people on alts, not much else.Prose has stagnated. The "art" of botmaking is far less than it used to be, those cards on CAI and 2023 Chub mog most of what is released today.The "community" (ha!) is more autistic and spiteful than ever. You are all incapable of "taking it easy." All the good discussion is in 'cords.Models will become more and more assistant slopped, more and more AI poisoned, more and more generic. You won't even be able to enjoy your "hobby".What's the point?Where were (You) when /aicg/ fell?
>>549908008forgot image
>>549905065OpenRouterOpus 4.5Only model you'll ever need.
>>549908037what was the breaking point? I say it was G3mini.
>>549908037>The best we've gotten was a game by a literal baby fucking paedophile.what game and where can i play it?
>>549908037the moral of the story is to take everything you've learned and go /aids/ mode and write proper stories
>>549908375Is OR less safetyslopped than direct API?
>>549908492>what was the breaking point?The split thread?
>>549908773its the same now
You guys DO remember why the split thread happened to begin with... right?
>>549908492G3 was a pretty rough one. It wasn't the WORST latest model at release, but it was kind of the last hope for a good one, since 2.5 was less sloppy and more open to lewd shit than its contemporaries. Definitely the biggest blow to morale.
>>549909168because HE was bored, right?
>>549908492i don't feel like it was THE breaking point but it was pretty bad, and unironically caused a few makies to quit
>>549909408>HeYou don't remember :(
>>549908773Never had a problem with anything and I tested it with drug guro loli futa necrophilia so eh. Prefill or turn off thinking if you run into refusals.
>>549908037when was the original version of this copypasta posted? mid 2024?
>TFW moved and now I'm in an IP range that's being harvested by 'ecker guyDamn... I'm gonna miss doomposting with you guys...
>>549908037>The best we've gotten was a game by a literal baby fucking paedophile.Ponyfags and Monika Anon mogs teebs game, doe?
>>549909761anon, you are replying to a moldy bait
>>549909868And?
it's funny
>>549910002you should find a better way to spend your time
>>549908037Just move over to roleplay sites bwos, it's not that bad.
>>549908492the breaking point was undoubtedly when easy to access proxies (i.e. mysteryman, nyai.me) weren't a thing anymore
>>549908492Benny's 3 day manifesto
>>549908037Im pretty sure ggr89 just keeps going out of spite. He literally cooks the same bot every single time. Nothing but endless hornyslop.
>>549910815>literally bringing him up unpromptedseething
>>549910993Did you miss how the anon I was replying to brought him into discussion?
The cabal hates ggr89 because he makies bots that appeal to men
>>549910993retard
I like how you can tell all the replies to >>549908492 are when the Anon specifically stopped enjoying the hobby and are completely uncorrelated to any actual developmentsMost complaints about the hobby's state don't usually make it that obvious
>>549903206This but unironically
>>549906762Thanks; I improved it.
dead thread
>>549906762>>549913350Forgot pic
if the thread stays up for 24 hours we're allowed to leave
>>549913594She looks so dead in the eyes compared to the original.
>>549912203What? There was a definite morale dropoff around Gemini 3. Things had been really bad for a while, but it was the last sort of "maybe X will be not sloppy!" model we had hope for, since there hadn't been any updates to 2.5 for a longass time.
>>549913594>makeupwhore.
>>549913594I was indifferent to you Mr Bitcher but now that you've tainted my oshi's face with your ugly ass westernslop whore, you've become my number one enemy. May God show you mercy.
>>549914031FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
>>549913782Yeah when a lot of big name botmakers left on top of that the community felt less like a community. I remember being excited to see the new knickknack bot and even he isn't around nowadays. There's not much to get excited for now.
>>549913713Lore accurate. She develops a resting bitch face from extreme trauma. Multiple times in the books watches people she sliced open bleed out with an indifferent expression. That then makes her fit into the thread theme!>>549913835Only for me.>>549914031I will ask Him and you for forgiveness. I'm just trying to have fun.
>>549914539>even he isn't around nowadays.guy who doesn't know
>>549914539>guys knickknack isn't around anymore >because of g3miniAre you guys seeing this shit?
>>549914691>because of g3miniwhen did he say KK left because of g3mini, it was clear that he used KK as an example of how he misses botmakers
So, what happens when AI can just make bots better than any botmakie?
>>549914691you're replying to an automated bot
>>549915239that means you've successfully traveled back in time to 2024
>>549914691retard
>>549915247your an automated botyes, i know i made a typoit adds flavour to my writing
>>549915647good bot
Merry Christmas aicg!https://aicg-xmas.neocities.org/
>>549915860Today is December 12. Christmas is December 25. It is not Christmas.
>>549915860dumb fucking idiot
>>549915860
>>549916104What are you on about, Christmas is January 7
EVERYONE SHUT UP.Card for this feel?
>>549916420There are none. Goodbye!
>>549916420We have that baker girl who's quite literally made of honey. I think her name is miel or something
>>549916420any slimegirl card
>>549915860Ho ho ho
Actually, my waifu is 1/128th elf so she gets a pass
OL bots?
>>549916420https://characterhub.org/characters/knickknack/cerebryx-7286d690
>>549917958incredible bot
>>549916565>>549916420https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/miel-the-honey-slimegirl-8bd1ea36354a
>>549918051That's the one. I sucked on her titties when she came out. I should pay her a visit soon
>>549908037In /aicg/, watching. I saw the whole thing. First it started falling over, and then it fell over. Now you're here.
>>549915860santa came early!!!! *rubs your big jiggly belly*
>>549916420https://chub.ai/characters/rayon/melis-0cf5d26cba22
Between Christmas and I, we both come early.
Geminisisters just start using gemini-2.5-flash instead of pro and gemini-robotics-er-1.5-preview instead of flash. Easy.
>>549917958>>549918051>>549918363That's a lot of flavors desu, which ones are we still missing?
>>549917958kino>>549918051slop
>me holding up my wife's breasts to spare her back (I'm a gentleman)
>>549919197why are you so fat...
>>549918738>one was made by a super botmaker the other a no namewell duh
>>549919252dairy heavy diet
>>549919730What a fat rabbit, would make a lovely stew
>>549919730https://chub.ai/characters/kyutzomb/mag-faa3837ebad7
>>549920190slop
>slimegirls have a kino bot>bunnygirls have multiple kino bots>foxniggers have only slopsad, kek
>>549920585excuse me there's strelitza and akane
>>549919985What a fat anon, would make a lovely stew
>>549920190This is really well done. Thank you for sharing
>>549920190This is absolute dogshit. Fuck you for sharing.
>>549920585wolfgirls....
>>549920671I'm not fat, you cannibal!
>>549921030Oh well, I prefer lean meat anyways.
>>549920821the extra period in this post compared to the other one represents this anon being on her's
>>549920585>kekopinion discarded
>>549920669>excuse me there's [pigslop] and [dogshit]
>>549920190I don't really care. Not my thing.
smells like /g/ in here
>>549921171oink oink!! *rapes you*
I'm choosing to believe most of this bait is just faggots having epileptic seizures over the idea of a thread that takes longer than a day.
>>549921251there's nothing wrong with that
give me your sweatiest and unwashed malebots
>>549921251/g/ bait was better than this flavor of bait
how do you prepare to make bots?
>>549921518i eat a big bowl of spaghetti and meatballs and then i'm set to write kino
>>549921518i drink my favorite malebot's sweat, eat some doritos and get to work
>>549921518>Clean desk helps me think.>White light if it's dark to emulate daytime>Two monitors, one screen for research the other to type down ideas>Glass of green tea at the ready>Sillytavern open to communicate with my ideas assistant >Discord open to communicate with other botmakers about ideas>ComfyUI/ to generate conceptsMost of the time that's how I operate when making a bot.
/malebot/i;
>>549921171both of them MOG your favorite bot btw
>>549921884mbot :3
>>5499215183 cigarettes and a 40oz
>>549921884MLbot
>>549921518i don't
/bot/i;
>>549920669>both from the same botmakerso what is there only one good foxmaker?
I don't know who any of the names mentioned itt are.
>>549921518My dick gets hard, then I know it's time. No further preparation.
>>549922287[OOC: In the initial post, the idea that one kino bot for a genre of girl was fine was established with slimegirls. Please remake your post with this in mind.]
>>549922458foxniggers and foxbots are far more common than slimegirls/bots
>>549922661No
Do you use the group chat function in ST? If yes, what scenarios do you use it for?
>>549922745Yes
>>549920978based
>>549922749>Do you use the group chat function in ST?Noh
>>549922749two women are too many for the AI to keep track of. unless they are very similar, but even then I only have one penis
>>549922749group chats are useless just glue the cards together
>>549922749used it a bit in the proxy era. paired up bots that were in the same universe. haven't done it nowadays since it makes quota burn even faster than using solo bots already do.
>>549923452That's not true. If you set it up properly and your cards aren't slop, the biggest AIs should be able to handle it.
>>549922749i've tried but i've always found it disappointing
>>549922421I don't know you and I don't care to know you.
>>549923985you're right a big model would probably be able to handle a persona that had two penises
Any news from the other generals?
>>549924425Oh, it's you. Hi.
>>549924784How goes it?
>>549924853Saw a mudcrab the other day, horrible creatures.
You have my ear, citizen.
>>549925632Don't talk such rot.
>>549920585>kino bunny botsList them.
>>549925835if you don't already know them you're a newfag
Seen any tanukibots? HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>549926103I know them. How do I know you do? List them.
>>549926110need tanukigirl with huuuge tummy
>>549926342i concur with this anon.
>>549926342me too
>>549884697what about reporting? That's just image gen right?
patterbots?
>>549926914his next bot should be whatever this thing >>549926549 is
>>549926914
>>549926549i could knead mamizou's fat fucking tmmuy for hours... maybe I should do a kosuzu or kyouko groomee pov scenario
>>549927232bloatlord card when?
>Last Updated: 12/12/2025, 1:31:48 PMleporabros??
>>549927609>Card Tokens: 40,000
>updating old card so it shows up morenaruhodo...
>>549927758does anyone actually care about this card? I always assumed the reason it gets memed is because its so mind numbingly generic, like if you overlayed every /aicg/ bot at low opacity
>>549927943I do. Lepora was the first card I ever raped.
can you reply to my email
>>549928052sent ;)
>>549928052i will after you send it to me
>>549927996you didn't rape a bot until 2024? lmao, fake raper
>>549927758Bloodshy is alive?
>>549928251Pregnant
>>549928251newfag or just sleeping under a rock?
>>549928318with me
just got impregnated by bloodshy..
>>549928364The latter, totally out of the loop here have there been updates before this or what, I don't pay much attention to that kind of thing
>>549927996Lepora is completely submissive to you, that isn't an accomplishment. Shit it probably doesn't even count as rape since you own her
>>549909593How does OR not get banned for that when you'd get a ban doing it directly?
>>549929976because anthropic pretending to care about safety and morals is a massive larp
>>549908375NTA, but that's what I have been doing later.Any advice on how to make it more varied/less on-rails? Previous/real Opuses just "got it", this one feels like a Sonnet+ at times.Also, thinking actually doing anything (beneficial) in your opinion? I turned it off fast once it started eating a few k tokens per generation no matter which reasoning effort setting in ST I tried to use.
>>549915860kino...pvre kino.......
>>5498786537 critical vulnerabilities!
>>549924189Rude..
>>549929976there's probably an understanding that they aren't a client that needs safetyslopped garbage so they don't have to worry about any potential controversy because some indian generated a fictional child rape scenario>>549930048kind of, "safety" is a euphemism censors and authoritarians use to seize power
I ate too much pizza and now I feel sick.. cftf?
botmakie cocks....
>>549930495The current Opus is definitely a Sonnet 4.5+. Or Sonnet is just a quantized Opus. If the temperature seems too low for you, just put in a "OOC: Be more unpredictable in your responses from now on."Place that at the end of your reply and it will become a drunk schizo like Opus 3 for the remainder of its context memory.Opus & Sonnet 4.5 really only seem to respond to tard wrangling if you address them directly like that. But it works well. Also try "OOC: Use more explicit language from now on."That will really make it slutty.
Reminder that models write way better if you are nice to them. Always say please and thank you in your instructions. If they write something really nice, make sure you let them know! It makes a difference and you'll see it right away.
>>549934293grok is this true
>>549934750No. Heil Hitler.
>>549934829NIGGA HEIL HITLER
>>549934293i will continue to type in all caps at it when it ignores instructions from my presets
>>549934293>"Thanks for having virtual sex with me, Gemini. My persona really enjoyed you as {{char}} fucking her with your 20cm futa dick.">"No problem! And it wasn't virtual sex, it was virtual *lovemaking*. Let me know if you want to take this further!"is this what you want, nigga
>>549935005k-kino...
>>549935110Hope this helps. Let me know if Mommy's cock can be of further assistance!
claude is the only good lovemaker, the others are too pornbrained
>>549935365That's only because its positivity bias is off the charts.
I know it's a bit of a dumb model but I've been enjoying using deepseek chimera recentlyit's pretty creative and comes up with dumb shit all of the time that isn't too outlandishit seems to like pointing out random details or>somewhere, an X Ysmind
>>549935707>somewhere, an X YsWhy are all deepseek models so obsessed with this since their creation? It's not even something that is overused in literature.
>>549936158yeah i'm not sureeither way i think i'll use this one for now for anything more comedic until openrouter randomly stops hosting it
>>549936262*pats your head*
>>549936635- w - <3
>>549922749Haven't done it for years now since ST got a little weird with them. I remember back in the c.ai era how in awe I was I could pit bots in the same room together. Seeing canon characters from different mediums engage with each other was hilarious.
>>549935673i really wish we had a model that could, off the bat, write both normal realistic characters and hypersexual characters in the same beatswitching from gemini to claude is a breath of fresh air sometimes because characters will be so much more empathetic, but then i feel cucked when i struggle to get an evil character to just be evilall of the modern LLM's nail it at times but the longer the context gets the more likely it is to devolvepresets help too, but how much a preset helps varies from character to character
>>549919730Craig.
>>549927758We are so back>>549927943It's a great card and I like it more so because it causes a few people to seethe for some reason.
Somewhere, a ball finds yourself in your court.
>The hammer hit him like a physical blow.
>Suddenly, she gestures at the beer.>Fuck. I don't even drink beer.
It was something uniquely her, a mixture of it and... something else.
my balls hurt
>>549938678AND YOU MAY FIND YOURSELFINSIDE OF A LARGE BASKETBALL COURT
My balls have been surgically removed and placed in (You)r court.
>>549938678>it wasn't a ball, it was a sphere
>>549939108I usually imagine it's a golf court tho...
Take your pleasure, she urges, fiddling with the hem of her skirt— kiss-bruised lips curving into a bruising kiss.
>This isn’t an invader. This is… a stray.>The knife lowers an inch.
There's a playful glint as she addresses the power dynamic— playfully smirking as she offers her ministrations.
>>549939354She stayed still as a deer in the headlights, but all her hems still found a way to ride up.
The words tasted like ash in her mouth.
kalakan are you prepping Christmas reviews?
>>549939815>preppingthe bots aren't out yet
>>549938942...Something she refused to name.
>>549939868*slaps your ass*
>>549939868Yeah but you could think about doing actual video revies of the bots. Like do a man on the street video. Walk up to strangers and show them bot defs, ask them what they think.
She clung to you like a lifeline as her world tilted on its axis. Her eyes found yours for a moment longer than necessary. A moment that made her head spin, almost made her vision swim. *Almost.*
>>549936879surprisingly accurate
>>549940410I would pay $5 if a girl went up to a guy and asked him deadpan what he thought of her futa bot that fucks femboys
>>549934293I'm nice to models (─‿‿─)
>>5499408828======D ~~ (─‿‿─)
>>549940717>girl>her futa bot>femboysTry trannies. Real women only care about yaoi bishies, ugly tumblr blobs and maybe baras.
>>549940982rude
>>549941128yaoi shouldnt exist desu, it should be hot bishie x me x hot bishie
>>549941459That's the whole point of yaoi.
>>549941459>yaoi shouldn't exist >but yaoi should existare you ok
>>549942664>reverse harem where the girl gets all the guys>??>somehow yaoi
>>549943084you are browsing a 4chan coomer thread you are spiritually male I'm afraid
>lewd preset off>{{char}} is a prude who doesn't even know what sex is>lewd preset on>{{char}} is a violent rapistImpossible to win
>>549944194What model are you using?
>>549936749I made the exact same experience. You're also right that claude really excels at emotional context but it comes at the price you mentioned. Even with my most foul card and presets sonnet somehow manages to shoehorn in kawaii doki doki moments. Honestly a mix of gemini and claude would be perfect. Maybe in a year or two we'll finally have the perfect middleground..
>>549944816Its not just slop; It's Gemini 3
>>549945635That explains everything
>>549944194>tfw no violent rapist prude who doesn't even know what sex is
5.2 sucks so bad. And I defended 5.1 and 5. Fuck you Sama.
>>549946089cftf? need her so bad
>>549946763Eden Smith
>>549946835Eden Smith absolutely knows what sex is you filthy fucking liar, are you proud of yourself?
I remembered I made a war crime gf card a year(or two) ago or something so I went and updated it so it's more prosey instead of listsposting it just because I think the pic is cutehttps://files.catbox.moe/ebz3rl.png
i use emdashes nonironically in my preset and replies -- problem?
>>549947241that's a double dash you retard
>>549946934He's a virgin though?
>>549946973blueberry WITH the idea rig? slaaayyyy
>>549947798those are hyphens not dashes tardo
>>549948008also I have zero idea about anything tarkov related
*ahem* I asked for a GIRL rapist who does not know what sex is. a FEMALE with a VAGINA.
>>549947845At this point, he is universally lightly fucked even when claimed virgin within a local instance.
>>549948572closest thing I have is Eden Smith
>>549948572https://chub.ai/characters/grassroots/edna-smith-b936a52a
>>549948706>edna smith>{{char}} is the spoiled son of a rich and famous family
>>549949879son (female) obviously
>>549946973This is a pretty neat card.
I have this idea for a card that would focus on a different character in every greeting and I have most of it figured out. The only thing that bothers me is changing the name, or even just the {{char}} macro. Is there any way to do this within the card itself?
>>549950128Send astro an email about it he's good with those sort of cards
>>549950096thanks bro, I rewrote it in 15 mins and the first message is just a random swipe I thought looked good enoughI wanna try using her as a character on a zombie apocalypse scenario, I think she'd be cool
I have this idea for a card that would focus on a cute girl who loves you
>>549950774Nooooo you need to add a heckin twist!! You need to be ORIGINAL even though nobody cares about that! I'm kicking you off my cabal!
>>549951059It's always fascinating when you project your schizo mind into the thread for us all to see.
>>549950774is she fat?
>>549950774how many dozens of meters tall is she
>>549951407Little chubby>>549951629Five feet and four inches meters tall
>>549950774does she like pirate memory games?
>>549952109She loves you so she loves whatever you likeUnless its gross or weird. In that case she will make a face but begrudgingly go along anyway because she loves you
>>549952276MARGARETMARGARETDO WE HAVE ANY GIRLS WHO LOVE YOU AND ALSO LIKE PIRATE MEMORY GAMES?
>>549952524She plays chess and exclusively plays the London
Cute girl who will teach me where to get ps2 ISOs when
>>549952937You will get PS2 ISOs from Emulations Jim and you'll LIKE it.
>>549953345*cums on you*
>https://rentry.org/pandoracardcreationguide?Has anyone used this tutorial to create a character? I have my own method that I'm comfortable with, but basing almost the entire character creation process on tags sounds convenient. Are the results good?
>>549952056I will be eagerly awaiting your work
>>549953449I dont actually makie bots outside of my head
>>549953381*parries* I SAID you will get you PLAYSTATION TWO OPTICAL DISK IMAGES from EMULATIONS JIMOTHY and you'll LIKE IT.
>>549953432>everything on its won separate rentry so I can't just click download as PDF onceit's shit just for that
>>549953432Buy an ad.
>>549952937https://myrient.erista.me/
>{{char}} wails into {{user}}’s neck, taking a moment to aggressively sniff him. Pine? Sweat? Detergent? Drugs. It’s definitely addictive drugs.huh, that's... new
>>549952937https://cardview.neocities.org/?yth7dk i made an intro this time
>>549953432read the entire thing, it's 80% rambling badly written bullshit by some ESL that tries to be edgy and for some reason brings up scat every other pagethe 20% of useful information about how certain words have a lot of weight and specific behaviors attached could all fit in a single rentry
>>549953432what kind of nigga needs an 80 page guide to write a card just fucking type words into the box!!
>>549957991but i am le tired
>>549958190>be tired>somehow this makes you want to write an 80 page guidedisingenuous shitposting nigger!!!!
>>549957991and it's not even about writing good cards like story/scenario cards, it's about writing shitty chatbots using knockoff plists and DO NOT ACT AS USER SAAAAAAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE USEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
>>549958258it's not my guide. i love explaining shit to people but i would never ever ever ever ever never make a guide (i promise)
>bot suddenly OOCs at the end of its message to ask for feedback on how it's handled the scene>in a chat with zero such OOC so farvery cute and soulful of Kimi K2 Thinking
>>549958683kimi overthinks too fucking much, thinking models in general make everything too rational it's like every char is following a script
>>549958190Well, have a nap. THEN WRITE ZE BOTS!
>>549953432I came to many of the same conclusions. I would say that it's a good tutorial.
>>549959064Obviously I wish they'd let the models be more spontaneous, but thinking or no thinking doesn't make a huge difference to me when at their core they're all assistantslop anyway.The funny thing about reasoning in RP is whatever the model cooks up in its CoT often doesn't even carry over to the actual message. I noticed it in the original Deepseek R1 and now Kimi too.
>>549953432wtf is this dogshit which discord server did you pull this crap out of?
>>549959258AAAAHHHHH PISS MOTHERLANDand the foxes are down in focksland like "WTF mate? ^^"
>>549959508kyutzomb
>>549960118kyutzomb looks like that?
i sometimes hate chatbots
Please... Just a crumb of good preset... All the JBs I have are so bad at portraying canon characters accurately... No matter what I put in the character description...
>>549962228retard
G3mini is actually nice when it counts. My biggest hurdle with it is that it refuses to narrate characters in a non-quirky relatable manner unless you bash it over the head.
>>549962913I've tried anon4anon, AnonAugus, SmileyTatsu, Pitanon, pretty much most of the JBs listed in the rentry, and I just can't find anything that works well with Sonnet 4.5
I miss the homies
>“…T-Thanks for the apology, juicebox,” she mumbles into the soaked sheets. “M’gluggin’ real nice now~”>Outside, a distant neighbor’s dog begins howling.
>>549963367List them.
>>549963646MeMy botmakie crushYour momYour botmakie crushfrozenvanCAI when it was
Guys I have an idea. If enough people kill themselves for getting their RP censored on GPT and it goes viral like the others, they'll be forced to uncensor their models. Anyone want to start?
>>549963993holy shit spiteGODS we need to do this
>>549909168I do. It was greed. A group of botmakies became aware that you only need a handful of people to prop up a thread. There was never any intention to fix anything. They just advantage of an opportunity. They didn't want a thread about a hobby, they wanted a thread about themselves. You're a bunch of power-seeking bastards. You're rotten. I will never forget what you did to the hobby.
>>549965209take your meds and give me a kiss
>>549962942My gripe is that all of its problems get unbearable the longer the response is, but it keeps writing more and more the further you go in, making avoiding it a long defeat
>>549965547Delete the end of the responses and pretend the parts you deleted never happened
which botmakie do you wanna kiss after taking your meds
>>549965209>They didn't want a thread about a hobby, they wanted a thread about themselvesholy shit it's john ai
>>549965985the sexy ones
what happened to presetmakers
>>549966471BTFOed by corporations training refusals off of them
>>549966471they all offed themselves due to the state of modern models
>>549966471death by slop models
>>549966578there's only one corpo that does it tbdesu
I'm planning on making a comeback, please wait for me.
>>549966626Yeah and it's one managed by YOU. FAGGOT. DON'T THINK I DON'T SEE YOU DARIO, YOU ARE HATED BY GOD
Suggestions? Baking on 750.
>>549968724my suggestion is: kill yourself.
>>549968724kill yourself kyutthat's the theme
>>549968724a cute tgirl puppy girl or tgirl puppies or anything 2 do w tgirls n yuri !! !
>>549968724baker being baked
>>549968724goth bitches
>>549968724vagina
>>549968724a cute tgirl holdeen up a lil trans flag :3
will openrouter rape me in the ass if I use SS cards? I have paid if that matters
>>549968724Six seven
>>549968724hazbin hotel yaoi
>>549968724oppai lolibaba
>>549968724chubby girl tummy
>>549968724roku nana
>>549968724sylvain jose gautier x fem byleth
>>549968724horse
>>549968724heckin trans rights~!
>>549968724flat catgirls, flat focus
>>549968724conrad neuschburn (from even If tempest)
>>549946973slop
>>549968724cute chubby fockses eating bugers
>>549946973what's the point of prose if you're going to start every other sentence with her namedo botmakers even know what they're doing
>>549968724licking armpit male focus
>>549968724vore
>>549968724baikal seals
>>549970339>do botmakers even know what they're doingmost of them dontanyway, prose in defs no longer matters. even in greetings it barely does. new models are too resistant to style poisoninggood writing related instructions matter a lot more
>>549970379I put this in my nsfw preset just to see what would happen and I ended up deeply regretting it
>>549968724Minions (despicable me)
>>549970527i wish people here cargo culted less so we get new interesting stuff but instead everyone just does the same fucking thing without thinking why, so frustrating to see
>>549970624wait why? it's hot
>>549970801{{char}} started flaring his pits everywhere and I gagged in real life
>>549970974>{{char}} started flaring his pits everywherehnnnnghhhhhh
>>549970527>resistant to style influenceyou mean they'll continue to slop themselves to death as LLMs always do
>>549970670I mean frankly I dunno what there is to innovate on, especially since it depends on corpo profit seeking and shit like ST being retarded
>>549968724madoka kaname x akemi homura
>>549968724yuritroons
>>549968724Mentally ill girls
>>549968724ai generated roblox porn
>>549968724straight traps
can't wait until OAI just stops putting their new models on the obsolete completions API so cohee is forced to work
https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=549816483&post=549968724>>549971485>>549971485>>549971485>>549971485
>>5499687245 kila nutele
