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We love yellow QUEENS edition

Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)
https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/
>Official link
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/
>How do I get in?
Early Access doesn't require a code, hop on!
>NEW UPDATE
Caitlyn is the next 2xko champion!!

>TWO ECKS KAY OH
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shippers won...
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Waiting 2 months for Ahri charm on Cait animation
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how mad do you think they are that avatar made a fighting game when their donut steel oc is a korra knockoff lmao
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>>549962906
Caitlyn release and Console announcement video from the Game Awards approaching 3M views in less than a day
Caitlyn? Won
https://youtu.be/vbksKxZaQGA?si=aTjrer0oFxIeG1Gg
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>>549965193
>>549963272
I do see a lot of crazy yuri accounts popping off on twitter
How do people have the time to dedicate their lives to one pairing from one show bro girls are crazy
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Truth or fiction?
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>>549965193
that shit has 2K likes and probably at least 10K dislikes if 3M views
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>>549965831
Truth because nrs and warner bros is flat broke and wouldn't be able to afford shit
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>>549965831
a sore losers' conspiracy theory
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Just lemme use this move and I'll be happy
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>>549965529
Put it this way, instead of autistically console warring and debating which game is better in their entertainment all day, they just spend it instead autistically shipping and debating ships all day
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>>549965831
Ff actually has a fan base. Half of 2xko fans are arcane watchers who don't even play the games. Who the fuck would actually believe this?
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>>549970760
Saudi plant spotted
you have 200 players on steam big dog
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>>549970810
https://twitchtracker.com/games/774680424
https://twitchtracker.com/games/185606059
Which makes this even sadder.
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>numbers schizo is an snk boy
it all makes sense
how does it feel to get to punch down for the first time ever lol
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>>549965193
cait sounds so young here
It's like they got her loli voice actor from the show
Ig Vi seems youngish too but still she's practically cradle robbing
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>>549970810
>you have 200 players on steam
Concurrent, not total. Not that it changes your point, just being pedantic

>>549970760
You don't need a fanbase to win anything, it's not a popular vote. You just need to convince gaming journalists.
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>>549965193
Belial speedo announcement got 25M+ views on Twitter
Obviously now Granblue is the biggest fighting game in the world with 25 million players
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sex
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Holy, today I learned there are cosplayers for yurifags, I didn't know Cait vi fags were this dedicated
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i wonder if they'll ever make another blitz skin
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starting to get the point where ekko players are competent, and holy mother of god he is broken. it takes nothing to do 50% with no assists, his 2m is disjointed to all hell and reaches so fucking far and it SOMEHOW still combos
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>>549966613
500 dislikes
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>>549978785
why is vi fucking super flat? WHY IS VI FLAT? SHE HAS FUCKING TITS EVEN IF THEY ARE SMALL WHY THE FUCK IS VI FLAT
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WHY
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THEY
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VI
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SHE
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Any platformer bros in high elo can confirm?
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just beat xphapper 2-0
i have hands i'm afraid
guys do i enter evo
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>>549979845
That's her old design and it's not who she really is.
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>>549965193
>3.2m views
>only 2k likes
this shit is just autoplaying on websites and/or the Riot launcher or something.
it's basically "legal" viewbotting
no one is going out of their way to watch this shit, because no one gives a fuck
this shit is dead
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>>549979845
Sorry friend, the only other vi cosplayer that's bigger I got on hand isn't as toned looking
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Niggas gonna make more money playing samurai showdown and KOFXV than playing 2xko this year. I know that's hard to swallow for "competitive" 2xko players. Lmaoooooo
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>>549991182
pretty sure the saudi funding beats out every other fg lol. isn't that tourney even bigger than the big dumb sf6 one?
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>>549979503
As you get better and play better people you will start to see how leagues ahead of the rest of the cast Ekko and Yasuo are, its not even close. They completely eclipse the entire cast and are almost always the best choices as a team member for the rest of the cast. The balancing is so fucked for these two characters but 70% of the playerbase plays at least one of them so there's constant downplay
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>>549993406
we've got sajam out here desperately trying to up play every single non top tier character for reasons unknown
i fully expect a bunch of nerfs to the non top tiers because it wouldn't be fair if they were brought down to everyone else's level when they get nerfed
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>>549993745
Honestly, the rest of the cast are very good characters, it's a very high power level game which is a weird choice given how desperate they are to attract that casual audience. It's just that Ekko and Yasuo are two of the worst designed and balanced fighting game characters in a AAA game that I've ever come across
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>>549994057
yeah the game looks pretty fair when the top tiers aren't involved
yasuo i think is like one or two hits away from being reasonable but still strong, ekko i think the only way to balance him is to legitimately start over from the beginning. that's got to be the most fucked up projectile in any modern fg
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good night tuko
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>>549965831
the actual truth is that the general public does not give a fuck about 2xko and the jury just didn't want another Multiversus situation where the winner becomes unplayable after winning, and Fatal Fury was the only new fully fledged fighting game of note so it won by default. Hell I can imagine a lot of the jury just abstains from voting in FGOTY so the few Korean, Japanese and Latin people in there all voted for Terry
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>>549999257
>situation where the winner becomes unplayable after winning
this is still so fucked
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>>549999257
Would be funny if at least one of the judges is a boomer who vaguely recognized FF and VF and was thinking of which one to vote, because the others are collections and some 2x something he never heard of
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>>549981079
You might be him go for it big dog
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>>549978785
they probably dont get the opportunity that often so makes sense
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Tbh this melty happens every time a generic egirl champ gets a skin in league too.
Every new Lux, Cait and Ahri skin gets endless seethe and downvotes from chuds and still all make more dollars than whatever ChoGath skin that reddit creams itself over LOL
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>>549962906
Rito's games don't work on Linux, which is another great reason to switch to Linux.
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amazing hitboxes riot
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>>550021374
8)
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>>550014635
>monsterfags and edgelords seething over egirl
Many such cases, doubly so since most of them are complaining about another zoner
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>>549998360
did you tweak it?
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>>549999257
>>550008438
>Multiversus situation where the winner becomes unplayable after winning
what happened? i never got into the weird ass game hype, it was obvious it was going to die fast so why play it. but what do you mean winner becomes unplayable? like you win a match with x character and the rm you can't use them again?
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>>549993406
>how leagues ahead of the rest of the cast Ekko and Yasuo are, its not even close. They completely eclipse the entire cast
do fighting game devs ever learn? look i get it, ekko is black and actually not a dog shit design, but it's so obvious they spent 5 of the last 10 years on him alone. its like what they did for sol in ggst, give him 50 moves and everyone else like 5. one little projectile that STAYS on the screen shouldnt lead to a full 50-60% combo meterless and assistless. you shouldnt have 50 fucking dashes where all of them are NATURAL frame traps with no timing. its stupid as fuck
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>>550030136
no, as in the game literally cannot be played anymore.
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>>550030136
Game came out as a beta, but don't let anyone gaslight you, they stopped referring to it as a beta very early on. It was fun but had major problems with its gameplay like jank hitboxes, on top of being too different from Smash which alienated its fans. Casuals also complained about lack of content (which I still think was insane btw, they had a new character every 2 weeks), lack of cosmetics, confusing menus and not being able to queue up for fun side modes with items and such. Most importantly, the game was server based instead of p2p, depending on where you were the netcode was either godlike or unplayable, to many it was unplayable. Anyway, to fix everything they took the game offline for a year while doing major reworks and claiming it was just a beta, even though you could spend money on the game. When it came back, they fixed the hitboxes somewhat, made the game slower with a different camera to improve footsies, and did some character reworks. It became unbelievably boring. They also jacked up the monetization to the point that no one new could be expected to unlock more than a few characters without spending a ton. The game died and they took it offline, you literally can't play it anymore.
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>>550030136
>>550032048
Also, forgot to mention, a major selling point was that unlike Smash this one was being built for 2v2. You could queue up with a buddy and characters had abilities like buffs for teammates. They wanted to have a pro circuit with an emphasis on 2v2 and were even at EVO once with a big prize pool, where matches took forever to start because it turns out setting up 2v2 on a tournament is hard. Another thing: they clearly had no vision. People complained about having no shields unlike Smash, so the devs added a shield, reacting to complaints by changing major mechanics. F2P game with a focus on 2v2 where you buy or unlock characters and cosmetics for online but everything is free offline, based on a major IP, where western devs who communicate a lot on twitter change the gameplay reactively due to online complaints. It's too similar.
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>>550030485
>50 fucking dashes
Somebody got wavedashed on
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>>550032048
>They also jacked up the monetization to the point that no one new could be expected to unlock more than a few characters without spending a ton.
This was even worse since it made locals unplayable since they had to spend 100s of dollars on every setup, so on top of trying to squeeze casual Timmy dollars they killed off the entire scene that actually played the game
Riot at least stuck to their guns and left Lor f2p, so they probably will never change offline mode and training mode getting access to all the champs
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>>549994793

I think it's the opposite. Ekko is good at everything, but it is easy to see what he should be. He wants to be a pixie. So nerf his damage and his screen control options like timewinder. Let him mix but not kill easily.
Yasuo on the other hand is schizo as fuck. He got range to play the poke game, has antizoning tools, speed, 8 way mix and damage, and more. You pretty much can't fit him in any archetype. They can nerf every tool a little and make him boring, or heavily nerf some stuff but change the character completely.
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>>550037010
>antizoning tools
You just wait until they put Cait in and I get a hc full combo on him through his wind wall
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>>550037010
yeah, the thing is since those characters are "le technical," they do less damage at bottom level play, but riot wants all characters viable at all levels so i really don't expect that to ever happen desu
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>>549965193
https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/6055025
>Benefits
>Drive conversions, get video views
You can respond to this with your canned shitpost now.
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I have learned recently that all jinx teams are inherently better in duos since you can get a high low mix off her minigun move + tag in assist, it's impossible to input in solos since trying to input a jump will force jinx to start aiming upwards while she's shooting her minigun
https://youtu.be/cKuqQhQcDF4?si=VArRDZfTLwuMSr7Y
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>>550045717
solo sisters... im getting more scared...
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what champ COULD save the game and get conversation going for more than a couple hours?
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Maybe riven could have attracted a couple waifufags, but even a bunch of the comments after the Cait release was half the number fag schizo seething
Gonna have to fix people here not playing first
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Opposite question, which champ would've been the worst possible choice? Which one would kill the hype even more than Cait?
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>>550055527
The champ whose unique passive is making air blockstun work reasonably in every game even when they aren't present.
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Game has been unplayable for me today, I deleted the hotfix folder so that I could play ranked but every game was a jittery mess. Anyone else experience this?
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>>550055527
Realistically no champ or champs is going to save this game. The game is an "easy" game that is built to cater to casuals but everything in the game actually caters to the more hardcore fighting game audience. It also has extremely bad balance which pushes the intermediate players away (nobody ever talks about this). Its confused on what it wants to be and will never be a casual friendly game the way it is. The playerbase we have now is all it will be unless they make drastic changes to the core gameplay
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the overly melodramatic "it's the worst balance in every fighting game ever!!!" poster only gets away with it because everyone else abandoned the game for the real reasons it's bad like retarded system mechanics, the first 20 generals had tons of people calling him out for being a dumb whiny baby who has never played an FG with actual balance problems
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>>550060512
you realise that retarded system mechanics are a big part of the extremely bad balance in the game right? things like 2x assist make certain characters worse to play against than they should be because the design team most likely didn't take into full account how it would work in real games. Or maybe they did and they're just stupid enough to think it was alright
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>>550059769
Cotw could have been astroturfed harder and actually bribed and I would have still said they deserved to win fg game of the year with all the bugs 2xko have

Also I was playing ruined king for the times my game was still crashing 24/7, and no wonder their solo games flopped, I spent hours trying to stop that game from crashing too, how is it so hard for riot to put out something that isn't a buggy mess
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>>550061170
balance is fine, fundamentals aren't
simple as
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what's up with modern fighters having overwhelming system mechanics anyway
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>>550061447
you're playing a word game to redefine system mechanics as "fundamentals" so that you can say that the balance is fine. The balance of the game 100% brings into account the system mechanics and when they're as shit as they are it has a big impact on the balance and how characters are balanced in mind with those mechanics. You can word it however you want but that's just what it is

>>550061635
devs think it will bring people in if the games are easier to play but don't realise that it just pushes more people away. Nobody is asking for a comeback mechanic in games like CS but for whatever reason every fg has to have an insane comeback mechanic, full resources from round start, and fg skillsets that used to be earned just given to players through a macro. People arent stupid, they see it for what it is unless you're Japanese
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>>550062020
No retard, I'm saying that none of the characters are particularly strong compared to the others. That's what balance means. Regardless of this fact, the game is still shit to play because the fundamental implementation of fighting game mechanics SUCK. Don't insert your words into my post.
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>>550062117
>none of the characters are particularly strong compared to the others
delusional.
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>>550062393
You can disagree with my opinion but raving against your own headcanon about what a very plainly worded post says is the real definition of delusional.
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>>550062502
You fell for the sajam propaganda and think that balance is only taking into account characters. Delusional.
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>>550062625
I don't want that stupid bought and paid for faggot. You trying to redefine simple English words that 99% of people agree on the semantics of is dishonest and gay as fuck. Eat shit.
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>>550062709
delusional
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>>550062808
The views on the trailer are from it being a paid advertisement btw. Commence your melty.
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>>550062929
delusional
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>>550061635
There's only so many ways you can traceappa a punch, kick, and special without it getting old, so devs fundamentally need another way to spice them up without literally just releasing the same game with updated textures and calling it a sequel, and need a way to get people to buy a new game without just going back to older games and playing with their old kicks and punches
Fuses and extra system mechanics I think are best in a tag game though, since team building is the closest thing to a deck builder I've got in the fg, and more fuses add more permutations and synergies to consider which is fun for me
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>fuse comes out that gives you an extra air dash
Game saved or is that too broken?
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honestly they should just do whatever the fuck with this game for the hell of it
there's no course correcting this disaster
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dont care, playing and having fun
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>>550055527
None. The game is made for sweaties. Like I've been telling for years. Turning this game into a tag fighter is a death sentence. Nobody here has actually played League so they don't understand the audience that Cannon Bros failed to target.
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>>550073130
>the audience
Which is?
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>>550073130
>Nobody here has actually played League
i played league longer than most ppl on here have been alive
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What happens if I played league when this bad boy was still a thing
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>>550073130
>nobody here has actually played league
ive played league for fifteen years
and if theres anything ive come to understand, its that league players will never play a different game for as long as they walk this godforsaken earth.
riot could make the literal best game ever and not a one crack addicted retard will try it so i do not CARE what (you) think (they) think about games they would never have played anyways!
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Here's your post 1 month hard nerf patch top 8 bro
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>>550082238
>only 4 yasuos
WHAT HAPPENED BAWWWWW
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>>550082238
this has to be the first event i've seen hikari enter and not win
funny enough the winner played yasekko anyway lol...
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>>550080656
i want to go back
>>550080986
Yeah they will as long as its on the same client (tft). Funny thing is that if Riot just started making a Diablo/poe like rpg with a fixed camera (the one that already exists), they could just put that into the game client. They did this once on wild rift kind of when kalista released. But the map was very small.
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>>550082238

>oh no, my character got nerfed from top 2 to top 4, I have to drop him now

You know, I'm starting to agree with some casuals saying pro players are cancer. People will parrot pros like Leffen crying about Teemo and ruin the game.
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>>550080986
League players play TFT on the downside. You'd know this if you actually played League because it's in the client.
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>>550060512
sorry but i'm not him and only been playing for 4 days, and ive played a lot of fighting games. ekko is beyond busted and needs to be nerfed into the ground
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>>550085886
I played tft on the pbe before it released and the vast majority of players had never touched league before or quit and only came back for tft
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>>550085546
now hold on there what we're not gonna do is pretend teemo isn't hitlerbroken
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good night tuko
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If you couldn't deal with teemos shitty ass rocks and mushrooms that need a whole round to start doing damage, you're not going to like KKKiraman gassing you and hitscan shooting you from across the screen
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>>550091206
im not even racist and i know that. hes the token black character in a game where the default character model for online is black. 2m being disjointed and long reaching but thats only one of the few moves thats disjointed and longer reaching than the animation. projectiles that last forever leading to a full fucking combo if it touches you, doing 50% meterless and assistless minimum which i havnt seen any other character do. safe on almost everything. its so fucking gay dude
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rewind clone should perhaps not stay out for like 7 seconds
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It's Ahris birthday soon, got anything to say to her?
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time winder should by chance maybe not last a full 30 seconds while still being able to time molest you
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>>550097349
yeah, I don't know how this basic ass bitch has such a massive cult following
yeah I get kemonomimi are popular and all but seriously she's not that interesting
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>>550099583
>femme fatale succubus that can charm and kill whoever
>skins are all pretty and/or cute designs that all are still sexy
>kpop star
>one of the mascots of league
She's basically a massive giga Stacy, one of the most iconic ones from lol
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>>550082238
the balance of the game is completely fine and the top tiers arent that much stronger than everyone else btw
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>>550108857
thank you based sajam
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>>550091309
I cant wait to blast people
Jinx’s rockets are way too slow
Pointing and clicking at timmies in fgs are my favorite shit
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>>550099583
she has big tits and she shoots hearts at you
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>>550086035
>been playing for 4 days
>X is busted
poetry
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Just remember that when she comes out and is decidedly mid-tier or bad that this schizo will still be throwing a temper tantrum no matter what because he has predetermined that she's busted because he doesn't like her >>550091309
gives me the same vibes as those still pretending that Yasuo is some kind of meta defining top tier that you can't play without
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blud thinks Yasuo isnt a meta character
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lmao these two retards are in full shill mode for riot
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Big leff has been playing in the tft open for a couple years already, he was a celebrity pick at the first one I think
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>>550129387
So he's always been a shill lol. He's ass tft too.
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>>550120127
a player's perception of character strength will always be changed by seeing the game through the lens of the character(s) he plays
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how would they translate Qiyana to 2XKO?
imho she should get Teemo's invis on crack
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>>550132204
It's already pretty good, Ive been watching inzem use it in tournaments for a while now and invis jump people
The only way it'd be better is if they give her invis and yas sized normals
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Cute cait
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Oh look another female who has a flat chest who shouldn't
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>>550136812
im surprised her boobs arent even smaller actually
they're decent handfuls
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>>550136812
>barely sexualize the women
>literally give darius a gigantic rack and emphasize his cleavage by tying a belt around his waist
i genuinely feel bad for you guys. they don't let you have fucking anything and i'm eating like a king every single day
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So by the end of next year this 2v2 tag versus game will have .... 17 characters...
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>>550138713
17 chars for 2v2 feels like plenty
much bigger problem is just char strength gap making the roster feel smaller than it actually is. even if we have 17 chars, if yasuo ekko is still the strongest then the roster's still gonna feel small
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>>550138713
invincible is 3v3 and will have 18 characters at the end of the year for 60 dollars
fighting games are fried
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>>550140819
i think the only fg i've seen not get knocked for "not enough chars on launch" in recent memory was tekken 8
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>>550138713
>>550140819
we gotta accept that tag fighters nowadays just won't have massive rosters nowadays because the time you need to put into the models and animations is just way longer than the days of the 360 era, and we can't compare it to MvC2 because that was literally just a massive reuse of sprits from over a decade of different games.
like >>550139146 said 17 will be fine, but 2xko's biggest issue is that the balancing is fucking awful so you're basically only have a choice of 3 and a half characters
>>550141776
Tekken also reuses a lot of animations across games which frees them up to focus on new stuff like models and new moves.
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Sorry, your twenty extra characters got sacrificed to make sure the models all could get skins easier and the animations function properly
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this nepo dev team cant even put out a character without it being bugged to hell and you think they should be putting out more at a greater rate? kek
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>>550143853
watch as at least one character is gonna get delayed
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>>550146208
with how many bugs are currently in the game and the absolute state of released characters so far, I think its fair to say that the dev team are completely shameless and would rather put out of pile of shit than actually take the time to make it not shitty
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>>550146781
maybe, either way it just so apparent that they are not good at this and that somehow 2XKO has been thrown out there way too early
>but it's a beta
other Riot games weren't this butt because Riot "open beta" are just actual launches, they also expect people to pay money for skins and characters
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Lil Timmy has never seen a riot game before, it's standard for them to release characters and patches broken and unbalanced for release hype
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>release viego
>like 10 billion gamebreaking bugs
>release sylas
>release neeko
>neeko turning into the fountain turret
sigh
such good memories
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>>550151082
and you're being a schizo imaging anons are "lil timmy"
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>>550151082
>it's standard for them to release characters and patches broken and unbalanced for release hype
There's no hype and its done nothing but piss off the already existing dwindling playerbase and its not just champs the game itself is buggy as fuck. I can only speak for my experience with valorant but there weren't this many bugs with its beta or early access. The biggest issue was Raze nades doing too much damage and the introduction of agents that did damage with their abilities which was contrary to what they said the game would be. Regardless, that has nothing to do with this project and lessons learnt should be at the forefront of the execs overseeing this game. 2XKO has just been a buggy mess from day 1, its a shambles and deflecting to Riots failures with league doesn't excuse it
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>valorant wasn't buggy
Lol
Lmao even
https://youtu.be/ktopvDhq8rw?si=akqM79HigVpB1Qot
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>>550157405
You didn't play because if you did you'd know that these bugs were promptly addressed. Game breaking bugs with champs had those agents removed from ranked queue until they were bug fixed and for the most part they didn't affect the bulk of ranked play outside of niche situations. Unlike 2xko where Teemo is released with entire bnbs that are bugged routes, or Warwick not being able to do bnbs on Yasuo, or Ahri just not being able to do a bnb reliably, or inputting 9 and getting 7, or the game shitting itself on AMD systems. Not quite the same thing.
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>>550161391
nta
the other stuff i accept but the ahri bit was literally 100% pure skill issue "BAWWW WHY CAN'T I DO FULL COMBOS ON MAX RANGE FIREBALL HITS" shit and as soon as they made her capable of that she jumped to top tier
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>>550161580
her spirit rush would just phase through champs regularly making combos would drop and her hitboxes were weird in their interactions so you couldn't continue combos where you should have been able to continue them. That was the issue.
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>>550161872
yeah, it would only happen on certain starters that she should never have been getting full length combos off of iirc? might be mistaken though.
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>>550162103
no it was just happening, especially from a 2m starter and it would happen a lot in the corner and a lot from the assists screen locking. Things like 2m 5h spirit rush would just whiff randomly from a mid range or further position
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>>550139146
>>550140819
Fighting game of the year has 22 characters and hasn't even been out a year. :)
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>>550158679
Ekko is so lucky
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>>550163193
yea i reinstalled it, did some trial mode, hopped in ranked queue, waited fo 15 minutes without getting a match, and then uninstalled it
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I think we can all agree that 2xko really does not feel like a priority for Riot, probably not in a rush to kill it but they're clearly not putting all their effort into it either, it's just kinda there to sell character skins
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>>550165069
Its probably the opposite really. The Cannon brothers and Unconkable most likely sold the duo aspect of the game as revolutionary for the genre and Riot ate it up and gave them what they wanted and now that they arent delivering they're getting pushed to deliver even harder making them rush things and put out a inferior product which will just lead to its own cycle of death
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>>550165069
It became obvious that's the case because there is no real competitive league for the game like all their other IPs lmao
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>>550165734
>The Cannon brothers and Unconkable most likely sold the duo aspect of the game as revolutionary
lol they deserve this flop
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>>550165734
>FUCK2XKO
alright boys, who so it?
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>>550151082
>guys, it's normal! it's shitty on purpose because Riot always releases shit products!
is that supposed to be a good thing or make anyone feel better?
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How in the world can you pull a six figure salary for 7 years and release a product like this?
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>>550175254
hey now, the game is still in early access just wait till console release it will fix everything
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i appreciate you guys bumping the thread but i don't think any of you play the game
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>>550030485
This is just how he is in the main game.
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>>550058871
Gragas or Mel.
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>>550177534
Why the fuck would we?
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>>550058871
akshan
alistar
ambessa
amumu
brand
braum
corki
dr mundo
fizz
galio
gragas
heimerdinger
illaoi
ivern
janna
jayce
ksante
kalista
karma
karthus
kassasdin
kennen
kogmaw
malphite
malzahar
maokai
master yi
milio
morgana
nami
nautilus
nilah
olaf
RAMMUS
renata
rumble
ryze
seraphine
senna
sett
shaco
singed
skarner
smolder
soraka
syndra
taliyah
taric
trundle
tryndamere
twitch
varus
veigar
vex
viktor
vladimir
yuumi
zaahen
zilean
ziggs
zyra

so yeah a lot.
dont try do defend any of these, retards. "but I main him in league hes so cool" no he isnt he's asscancer to play against and fight and boring as hell
sybau
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Relax third worlders, didn't you see the announcement that's at 7 million views now, console is coming soon
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>>550180587
Even Arcanefags don't care for her, and Noxusfags hate her.
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>>550181080
bc you can't get games in cotw lol
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>>550181291
what an unbelievably stupid fucking post, actually impressive how retarded you manage to come off when we can't even hear you mouth breathing or slurring your words
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>>550181427
>uhnunhubuhb fizz is sooooo cool
kill yourself RETARD
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>>550181427
>t. Sorakafag
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>>550181291
almost all of those champs would offer a more interesting kit than "uhhh... shes a zoner with projectiles... that puts down traps... and is from arcane..." lol
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>>550181535
>>550181635
>>550181427
>nilah defenders in this thread
kys
caitlyn is lolg core
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>erm you're le wrong
>refuses the cite the champion they love soooo much they're losing their minds about my post and just seethe impotently
Lol. stake your claim
which champ am I wrong about dumbasses? heres a hint: NONE of them.
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>>550181906
gragas would be 50000000000000000000000000x cooler than cait
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>>550181982
honestly? probably yes.
Hed also kill the hype for the game though, yes
Every egirl will see him and Braum buttfucking their gay duos in the corner and quit
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>>550182146
No biological females play this game.
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>>550182081
>im le posting buzzwords so im le winning le argument
nobody wants to have a conversation on 4channel anymore sadly
>>550182205
yes because we dont have egirl champs like lux or caitlyn
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>>550182205
You better not be shit talking the fg streamer of the year
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>>550182501
he who drags themselves down to his opponents level loses the right to complain about them munchever
the lack of attractive females has been a chief complaint among leaguefags and the females of the sajam slam such as boxbox and lilypichu

It's league of legends, you would had known this had you known anything, they are very happy with caitlyn over uggo champs that would otherwise be more engaging such as Gragas or Zilean
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>>550182875
im answering a question around hype not around funny soz.
Also sett is the most boring retard champ the people gunning for him are all homos and redditors.
>b=b=b=b=b=ut he LE punches!!!!
yeah man the whole point of a league fighter is that people arent punching I dont want to see homobait ripoff ryu in this game.
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>>550181535
60% of the league roster are gay baby characters for gay babies yes
>>550183336
>Katarina or Riven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caitlyn any day.
I am not disagreeing with that take? where did I list those two characters
I listed the gay baby retard characters and you got mad?
>I don't care about hype. I care about actually interesting kits or characters.
Yes but the general audience doesnt so idk what this matters
Arakune is sick but if he was the launch character of tuko nobody would care
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>>550182501
>You can't AFK support with your boyfriend in a fighting game.
You literally can, there's duos and a yuumi mode if they're too scared by tagging in or out
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>>549979642
Reminder the dislike stuff just guesses. It's worthless.
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>>550181291
truth nuked.
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>>550182875
lil bro thinks that singed getting announced would be more hype than caitlyn??
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>>550183336
>Sett is just obligatory
>his gameplan is just male vi of run in and punch people until they die
I bet you think braum is a zoner
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>>550184582
yes
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>>550186845
I think we've confused what the word hype is
Hype for thee is sadly not hype for we sadly

The two dozen singed and arakune players would be very happy yes but nobody else is going to pick up 2xko because they added a bald guy who runs around
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>>550187941
yes but now we've changed topics yet again
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>>550187837
The laundry list of fundamental mistakes in game design are why nobody will play this, not because of balance or the roster. Whether they have the knowledge or IQ to detect the specific issues and complain about them is irrelevant; you can *feel* the problems when you play.
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servers buggy tonight, i guess. just played a few matches and they were pretty jittery
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How did they make a fucking fighting game with memory leak issues. Never fucking seen anything like it.
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>>550188657
>question: what league of legends champ would be less hype than caitlyn
>answer: actually there are no league champs that would save the game at all nobody will ever play it ever
???
but im the one baiting apparently
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>>550189324
damn, that's still going on?
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>>550189527
yeah unfortunately the only people that post here are spergs from other fighting game threads (dead (no players)) here to make fun of us for being dead (lots of players to play with but nobody posts here)
idk why though. they're mad or something
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>>550189527
You weren't engaging sincerely at all. If you're the person that listed half the league roster full of likable characters that people who actually play fighting games would like you're being a huge disingenuous fagoid. If not, you still disagreed with a reasonable list that anon came up with of arguably cool characters. Certainly cooler than Cait.
>but Arcane was popular and that means she could pull Arcane viewers!
Are you on the Riot team? Nobody that isn't in on their team meetings could be so delusional to think that ANY character could make normies play the most degenerate tag fighter to come out in a decade.
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>>550189915
>full of likable characters that people who actually play fighting games
Is it the singed fag that is seething mad?
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>>550189915
I didnt say cait would be hype you dumb retard retard
I said that as boring as cait is she is still more hype than half the league roster because NOBODY cares about fucking RAMMUS or fucking MALZAHAR I would rather dig my eyeballs out than play into these two retards in any game ever forever.

And yes everyone on that list is the same. I'm sure the singedmains reddit is really mad that caitlyn got in over him but newsflash those dumbfucks main a GAY RETARD CHAMP sorry
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Oh okay I get it now, the last posters in the thread are a couple of actual LoL players having anonymous meltdowns for getting bullied on actual Reddit threads. I don't really get why you would feign interest in having a conversation here when you're already beating off together in a Discord VC, but I guess that's what the Internet has done to people.
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>>550190395
malz could be cool in a fighting game, bad pick for your post imo
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Poor little schizophrenic is starting to lose it kek, maybe reddit is more your speed so you don't have paranoid meltdowns on a site where there's no usernames
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>no u but way longer for no reason
try harder
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>>550190831
XD? LOL
>yes my immobile mage with 0 skill who runs away the whole game refuses to even walk up to waves and begs for jungle pussy so he can le epic flash point and click stun will be soooo cool in a fighting game
rofling rn you dont deserve your rank malzaharfag and everyone knows it if malz is banned you play like a bronize but keep coping
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>>550191564
i don't play malz (and i'll prob never play league again now that 2xko is out) but he by default has more potential as a char than cait
and why are u having a meltdown about league proper, this is a fighting games thread
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>>550191760
uhm actually sweetie this is a dead thread
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>>550191760
>huuuur just let malzahartards sell their narrative that their character is le interesting and le dynamic and takes soooo much skill you dont get it
you dumb baby retards dont deserve shit
kill yourself.
never play a video game ever again
that's what you faggots deserve
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>>550191918
*sits on your face* get back to work

>>550191963
>NO you play MALZAHAR and we're talking about LEAGUE
woah you are mindbroken as fuck lol
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>>550189615
Yes.
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>>550192113
The guy has lost too many ASSFAGGOTS matches against Malzahar and Singed players. He isn't a rational actor at this point, just a broken man trying to cope with emotions he doesn't understand.
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>>550192113
>GUYS JUST PUT THE WORST CHARACTER EVER MADE INTO THIS GAME
>IT WILL SAVE THE GAME BECAUSE IT ISNT ARCANE1!!! TI WILLLL
XDDD DD?????? ???
malzahar is literally the only thing that makes league not a good game. The world where malzahar was never made is the world where fortnite is dead and buried because everyone plays league

>ERRR BUT HES COOL
XDDD D D KILL YOURSELF
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Singed is arcane shit btw, but he's so hecking chungus coded and silly so he gets a pass and not Caitlyn
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on the one hand you have people having absolute meltdowns convinced that Cait will be the second coming of Happy Chaos
on the other you have people having absolute meltdowns at the possibility that some people don't like generic gun girl xddd and think a more unique character would've been a better addition to the game
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>>550192538
i didnt say any of that oomfie! i said "cait is shit and malz would be cooler" the rest is your psychosis speaking i fear
maybe you should take a sip of warm milk and go to sleep. you can rest your head in my lap if you want

>>550192572
i don't like singed and i don't think you could translate him into a fighting game but i'd take him before cait yea
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>>550192703
>malz would be cool
>the worst character ever made for ANY GAME EVER would be so sick bro
?????
yeah you did say that you dumb ape retard

malzaharfaggots are so stupid they dont know the words that come out of their mouths because you cant point and click them ? XCD??
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>its another "chase the 2x ahri player around the map for 2 minutes for 3 rounds straight" episode
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idk who this malzahar nigger is but now i want him in the game just to spite this schizophrenic faggot
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>>550192862
Why do you think announcing that your asshole has been gaped by people playing a character as lame as Malzahar (but still not as lame as Cait) to such a degree that you foam at the mouth when he's mentioned is a good idea?
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>>550192703
There's braum in the game for you right now little chungus redditor, he throws wholesome poros that do cool little dances and have mustaches, you already have your character so whats the problem?
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>>550192898
>if you fuck up a single time you eat 50%+corner+oki
>if you literally hit her out of her fireball it's not enough of a counterhit to give you a combo
painful lol

>>550192862
shhhh sh sh shhhh... go to sleep, go to sleeeep... he can't hurt you, he isn't real... shhhhhh sh sh sh shhhh
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>>550193105
i have literally never ever lost lane to malzahar

The issue is these malzahar niggers getting solokilled, begging for ganks and then ACKing the whole game like they did anything
These guys are the scum under my shoe the piss under the rim of a toilet

Running defense for them and acting like he'd be worth anything in any game ever made makes you no better
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>>550193316
>I've literally never ever lost to this character whose mention has me completely losing my mind in a thread about a completely different game
Everyone believes you bro.
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>>550193443
yes
I seethe about the playerbase and the way they've wasted their lives and their egos
it's simple as that glad you get it
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Malzahar would unironically be an excellent addition to the game.
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>>550193526
>>>/lolg/
it's simple as that glad you get it
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>>550195169
Significantly if only because we would have endless impotent gamer rage to make fun of ITT
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I just want to gas minorities and shoot people from across the screen
You people have like 20 combinations of rushdown and big body already, jinx teemo is the only dedicated zoner team and teemo barely counts as one if he's alone, cait was a necessary addition.
And no, I don't care about how much you seethe about x character being a zoner because your team comp and your use of it sucks and you can't figure out how to walk forward without walking into their buttons, jinx is the only dedicated zoner in the cast that wants to kill you with projectiles.
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>>550195440
Do you realize how small the cast is? We don't have a single puppet character represented but you don't see me throwing a fit about it.
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>>550195824
Are either of them the Zato or Chaos function?
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>>550195440
>20 combinations of rushdown and big body
2 rushdown 2 big bodies 7 zoners
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>>550195675
Ive wanted azir for the longest time and wouldn't have minded him or annie, but the counter suggestions people have to cait are actually even more brain dead
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I accept your concession
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>>550196125
Kiss my ass.
>>550196670
Azir feels like he'd be interpreted as more of a Ginyu than a real puppet character. But if he were to be the latter that is my #1 wish.
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garen is:
>demacian (league is having demacia season this year)
>in the top 1% of league champs in terms of being iconic
>would start rounds by yelling DEMACIA which gives the audience something to cheer along with the game
>cooler than the next 15 champs we're getting instead of him
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>>550198161
garen is for darius and kat tho?
which reminds me,
>would have great dialogue callouts with darius and kat
>double god king skins
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why does jinx, A ZONER, have bigger and faster normals that lead to more meterless damage than 90% of the cast?
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>>550198635
ft10
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>>550198759
oh jesus fucking christ not one of you faggots i thought i was free of you fucking pieces of shit
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>>550198831
>nooo i don't wanna play
your loss
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>>550195440
based and alpha
arcane contrarianism has inspired anons to lose their minds and hate champions that have been parts of league for decades
sad what it does to the brain
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>>550196770
stay mad malznigg
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>>550198941
im not that guy you challenged, just thought i finally escaped seeing ft10s after i quit other fgs because its usually super faggot retards screeching them
>your loss
but at this point you dont seem to be a super faggot, they usually continue dogging like super faggots
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>>550200782
honestly challenging people to ft10s isn't super productive and i'd rather that if people were gonna play it'd be on good fun vibes rather than trying to prove a point (it doesn't solve anything), but every time someone goes "reeee faggot" i just say ft10 and they immediately stop posting (likely because they don't even play the game and realized they're wasting their time here)
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>>550201075
>rather than trying to prove a point (it doesn't solve anything)
this is the part that makes me "reeee faggot". the people im used too tried to use it as an end all be all on whos right, as if winning would change reality, and the guy who wins is just naturally better but can (and has been wrong) be wrong about a certain move or situation. eg: some guy who went to weeklies and get top 3 ft10'd some other guy over
>after throw tech x move beats y move
and the weekly guy used the y move so he took offense as most people downplay their character, casual lost but while they did the ft10 everyone checked and the better guy was wrong. it was so fucking stupid and happened so often
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>>550201624
lmao
i mean at least that kind of thing makes threads more active but yeah, good players can have stupid opinions and also just be flat out wrong
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i haven't been playing too much, but finally added a proper burst bait combo
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>>550203670
nice of you to give em the burst back tho lol
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so i'm trying to learn how to use training mode in this game, i see the reversals section, is therea randomize button for nothing? i know if i put 5L after block, it'll 5L after every block, but practicing block strings i sometimes want it to do nothing. but i dont see an option for "none" that actually gets used, is there a work around thats NOT "use recording of block"? using a recording for a "nothing" sucks ass as blocking down for 1s can mess up some mix ups when i want the nothing to block high
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>>550204106
yep, it's basically 'do i want to deal with the opponent's other char with fury burst?'
but being real with myself, i'd probably always go for it, just because it's fun
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>>550205657
do you have any tips for labbing a burst bait combo? i've never sat down and done it because whenever i hit one in game i do like 4 hits and then they tech out. i guess it's prob character dependent or something
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>>550207432
one thing to note is the main's hit reaction is wasted,
but the side char will still have theirs,
so maybe that's another avenue to look into
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>>550204821
well i found that you can simply "activate" the "nothing" box by pressing y on the controller
but that makes it to where when the bot chooses that option the game just hangs and i have to restart my whole fucking computer lol
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>>550208624
what a broken game
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>>550208517
good lord
and thanks lol
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>>550195440
>gas minorities
You know on second thought, they probably made Cait asian in arcane because it would have been a little on the nose to have the white cop brutally oppressing the disenfranchised poorfags
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>>550209759
funny how that literally didn't even work on the audience and they just still call her things like "hitler" and "kkkiraman"
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sexo.
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>caitlyn
>has crazy twitter fanartists
>malzahar
>.......
your response, anonymous?
https://x.com/OmyChan2/status/1999731471540781537
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>>550210786
do these guys talk about anything but sex
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my concern is how would they differentiate her gameplan from jinx enough to make her stand out? They are both trapper/zoners. Even if cait has longer range doesn't change much
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>>550212597
I play Jinx and I do feel like she has some pretty glaring omissions in her kit that probably went to Cait.
Jinx has really bad anti-air projectiles and no ranged mix at all.
I can imagine Cait'll probably be better at shooting people out of the sky and probably have an ammo system. And I want her to be able to go prone so she can shoot fullscreen lows and dodge other projectiles a la Chris Redfield. That'd be really sick imho
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this is the type of shit i'm doing with blitzcrank

>>550212597
slow startup shots that cover the whole screen instantly when released + guard crush on them + unblockable stuff. for her super assist, a target appears on the other player's point champ, if they can't land a hit within 20 frames they get headshot and die
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>>550211892
... Are you really tweaking out about sex comments while posting on 4chan of all places
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>>550215115
Ig it would make sense to give Caitlyn charge shots like Vi has charge punches
Maybe they can even be minus when you airblock them so that airblock guy can be happy
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>>550218769
i didn't even make that connection but yeah that would be nice for the caitvi fags to have some transferrable skills that way too i guess
>Maybe they can even be minus when you airblock them so that airblock guy can be happy
kek
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great now that i settled on jinx/vi, cait joins the picture. I wanna main all three
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>>550219949
fortunately this game's pretty easy so you can absolutely just do that
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good night tuko
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>>550200782
Coolerbro?
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>>550218769
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>550218769
>Maybe they can even be minus when you airblock them so that airblock guy can be happy
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>>550218769
I'll be happy when every single move has consistent and predictable frame data when blocked in the air. I will then no-life this game and win the following Evo.
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This is totes organic and you can expect 8 million players next patch
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I can't play much. Been labbing combos starting with assists. Holy shit, does the damage scaling hit hard. How much damage Ekko gets after my time my time so I can be even more mad?
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>>550177534
I haven't made a single post in this general without four funny letters in 'options'
I did play the game though
unfortunately
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>>550210668
your garbage taste is fucking offensive please off yourself
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Sometimes I try to dash with the macro on L2 and get a jump. I'm 99% sure my controller is fucked, but with how bugged the game is, I want to know if it's just me.
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>>550249336
never happened to me
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>>550241538
https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/6055025
I don't know how many times I'm going to have to post this but you get views on your videos on YouTube when you pay for them to be advertisements. There is no mystery or botting, just regular old-fashioned pay-for-views.
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>>550221701
You say this, but I think 90% of people playing are still only on their one ranked team they learned day 1 and haven't learned any other characters to play in casuals even
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>>550243212
just because you've let the well of contrarianism poison your brain and make you hate normal things doesn't mean we all have
Anyone who was on the internet in 2015 likes Cait and Vi so you can keep crying about it
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>>550241538
pls do not read the comments under the video
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Which Cait skin is she releasing with?
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>>550269498
She doesnt really have iconic skins but probably this one and some battle pass one
Headhunter is reasonably popular and disconnected from other skin universes
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>>550270431
>>550269498
>>550260746
what a stupid looking gun
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>>550273137
>seething over a skin with a super soaker 9000
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>>550208624
thanks, looks like it works for me at least
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>>550274789
>implying that's an issue
Pray tell me though, what is this classy super soaker you speak of
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>>550234247
no i dont know who that is
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>>550273137
i was told to accept vi being as flat as jinx because of arcane, she will have a worse gun
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>>550276231
>shitty literal water bottle at the end to refuel
Sovl
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i feel like im crazy, in this game it feels like if they are about to fall directly in front of you they get teleported behind you and you just wiff. its happened so much and its driving me nuts
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>>550278464
she was already butch and i liked that, just dont remove the god damn tits like its fucking weird. what is this, naruto?
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Their design may get reworked for modern sensibilities, but they'll always live on unchanged in my heart
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>>550278709
im a leftist, i dont care about lesbians or gays or fags or whatever. but there is one thing i'll always admit, leftist culture ruined shit like this. every girl must be A cup or smaller to let every other girl feel better about themselves. no more big tits or just normal tits like vi HAD. fuck all the way off with nerfing tits, its so fucking gay
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>>550279532
Sorry to say prudebro, but even back then there were people who didn't care about lesbos, the world was always fine
https://youtu.be/3g3DSwN6pcA?si=__LvDbQGpMDcWYr_
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>>550280727
yes 50% of the country is leftist, there are millions of cases
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>>550282523
nah i just like strong women, which is why i'd main vi even if she was blitz tier. i love working out which makes me like strong women physically and emotionally. not jinx though, im not in to flat chested girls
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>>550282037
>Even when we had slaves
Yes?
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2xko saved fighting games.
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>ahri doing 38 hit combo from a normal
Nigga...what is this kusoge.
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>>550289036
for some reason people always complained about yasuo combos being too long but for some reason it's OK when ahri does it
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Vi is still plenty hot, and I refuse to be told otherwise
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>>550284024
>The fags I can't stand are the ones who want whatever the muscle tomboy equivalent of a Manic Pixie Dream Girl to save them from their own lack of willpower and dedication.
tell me about it. seeing memes or any porn of this is just what the fuck levels
>oh this MOMMY picked me up and pinned me against the wall!
like what the fuck dude
>Grappling a normal (normal) girl is its own fun though.
my wife went to state for wrestling, she never wins because i mean, guy vs girl, but it sure is fun
>but just know that you're a bro in my book.
thanks bro. i also wish they kept the tits sigh
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>>550289235
yes she is hot, but give back the tits
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are the servers still shitting themselves in EU? I tried to play a few games but it was horrible , only experiencing it with 2xko no other games
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>>550289235
>this is a flat board to anon
0 sex general
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>>550289235
you are valid
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>>550291109
this is flat
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>>550291109
flat
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>>550291109
also flat
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imagine if DBFZ didn't have superdash, we wouldn't need any other game ever
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>>550292483
>>550292392
>>550292274
Bro this is the same company that removed hextech chests in anticipation of a flood of new arcane fans (they lost 19% of the player base overnight). They don't care about original fans. They will pander only to potential new fans.
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>>550292274
>anon learns that boobs can squish
:)
0 sex general
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>>550293413
NTA and I don't give a shit about tits in games but you're fucking retarded if you think they can squish like that without extreme pain
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>>550293527
yeah man sure ;)
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>>550293527
my ftm friends with decent chest sizes look like that when they use binders
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I get all my knowledge of women's bodies from porn where they immediately cum from getting their tits touched, so I headcanon squishing her boobs makes arcane vi furiously horny whenever she fights and will rape the loser
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>>550292972
superdash is a free 2h if you arnt a shitter
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>>550294908
i watch them dbfz gamers get hit by superdash all the time is this tru?
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>>550295129
you watch the jumpers get hit by it all the time
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>>550260746
You might be the single most retarded person I've ever interacted with
I ain't even mad
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i keep seeing fg players go "bawww too many patches bawww" re: tuko, but sf6 players just waited an entire year to get a patch the gave changes to three characters and mai nerfs that arent going to do anything
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>>550294908
That's only if they're an animal doing it full screen, and even then it's still cancer
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>remove corset
>remove frills
>remove eye shadow
>all for people who never even played the games
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>>550294908
midwit take. shitters think it's busted, midwits think it's bad, top players know it's busted.
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Alright mother fuckers, I'm reinstalling this kusoge and labbing an opponent airblocking every button on Warwick/Yasuo. I'll just remember the extra frame data table because they're clearly never going to fix it. Wish me luck. Hope to see you in game soon.
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>>550299748
brother you dont need to do that
just like play some matches, readjust your mental rewiring, and have fun. everyone already knows how it works
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>>550299823
>yeah bro just get in game and mash, or even better, let your opponent constantly steal turns because you don't know whose at advantage
I cannot fathom having fun with a fighting game playing like this.
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>>550299931
if you look at this game's frame data you'll find that almost everything is minus on block with very rare exceptions and pressure comes almost exclusively from using assists and handshake tags to keep it going
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>>550300406
Yeah but how minus matters. Especially when an airblocking opponent has different framedata than a groundblocking one.
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>>550300609
well i hope you enjoy! make sure to post your woes and triumphs, maybe even webms
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>>550300609
Not really
if they're minus in your face and you press they handshake out and punish you
The sane thing to do is to learn when you can push block them rather than try to wait for them to be minus, that shit just isnt going to happen if they have any kind of lab time
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>>550300760
Sorry I lied, I booted up Vi and watched my +1 5S1 become -23 on a bot set to delay jump in a blockstring and had a melty. Please release me from this prison, I don't want to keep thinking about this game.
>>550301318
yes anon we all know frame data is a myth in tag fighters except when it isn't and it decides tournaments
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>>550301775
oh you're still here anon
Vi is still the second most picked character in europe and she still mashes her 5S1 constantly anyways
if they're able to jump your 5s1 its because you're ass that move is broken as fuck
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>>550301775
you should look into the vi setups people do in freestyle that are like
>start charging 5s1
>assist->tag
>run in while still holding s1
>release
>tag back to vi if it hits, otherwise you're now +500000
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>>550302038
>>550301775
you retards know 5s1 is negative right? you can throw for free afterwards right?
>b-b-b-but assist
yeah she wasted it on getting in and now has nothing and everythings unsafe. fucking shitters
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>>550302334
speaking of retards
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>>550302313
>whole concept is getting hit by a fully charged s1
holy fucking shit
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>>550302334
lol Im glad youre back
watch this one bro I made it thinking of you
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>>550302459
>>550302460
retard
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>>550302497
>literally anyone can do that with their minus move
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA ARE YOU NEW TO FIGHTING GAMES?
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>>550302497
Who do you think you're responding to
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>>550302497
>sis thinks its new to use a super after a minus move
>sis thinks this is vi's gimmick
ngmi
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>>550302460
you should just watch some gameplay where it happens. it's oppressive as fuck and probably feels fucking great to do. i'm just making suggestions to help you enjoy the game and give you fun things to check out in it, bro

>>550302710
>>550302602
vi's like the only character with an invuln level 1 to do this with
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>>550302602
>>550302710
do it with yasuo right now?
make a video of you getting your rekka blocked and punishing with super not even 4 times in a game do it twice in an entire set and I'll concede
Oh wait you cant,.,,,,
Nobody else has a invul super that isnt level 3
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>>550302497
Airblocking baby here, you weren't responding to me. But I've been in every single thread every single day. I saw and responded to this retarded "lol it's a 50/50!" take a long time ago. Glad that you're still having fun with the game though, I wish I could.
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>>550289235
actual transgender build
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>>550292274
>her fucking lats are bigger than her chest
>muh boob squish
hysterical
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>>550299231
I think it's fun because I like Dragon Ball
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I really hope the Qiyana faggot gets lynched and hanged by the KKK
Jesus Christ man how can someone be so fucking retarded
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>>550302460
You're an ape if you think that's somehow bad
Every single Vi will do it 3-4 times a round in tourney if you think you're better than they are then more power to you
https://youtu.be/NyxQOaVbk9Y?si=lO9bvxDz7XNzno_D&t=347
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>>550303329
>boob squish
>in her default outfit
you've never seen a woman naked and we get it
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>>550303953
>>550302602
>>550302710

>whole bunch of whining at me exploiting my Vi technique in high elo (Masters)
>no counter examples from the emerald sheep who can't understand how to play Vi and just want to bleat impotently
As usual for this thread.
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>>550304613
>get shit on
>thinks she won
are you maga by any chance?
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>>550305193
lots of typing not a lot of posting clips of any super in the game doing the same thing as Vi's
ik you cant find it but still pretending it exists is crazy work

And no I'm not a fan of Donald Diddy that guy got buttfucked by a pedophile jew
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But what happens if you vi s1 to try to hit someone jumping and run into a braum shield
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>>550304613
This thread is deader than your love life, how can it be "usual"
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>>550306562
then you fucking die
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>>550307432
bwuht her s1 is supposed to be plus though?>?]]??
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can one of you try for the first time since release to explain why you would ever reward someone for blocking any attack in the air with better frame advantage than if they had blocked on the ground?
>inb4 because it makes you mad
Malzahar should be in the game.
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>>550307717
i simply play the game as it is and enjoy it on its terms rather than wishing it was something else
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>>550307779
I don't have your sheer willpower, I kneel homosama
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>>550307860
that having been said i probably would be enjoying it at about 20% of the current amount if my literal favorite character wasn't in it
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>>550307717
I just dont really care because its a video game dude
Some games make it so you have to jump grabs some games make it so you have to mash on them sometimes you have to tech them and sometimes you just get throw looped

Sure if you come from a jump grab game and start playing a mash grab game maybe you'll be like ew why do I have to mash why cant I jump

but like just figure it out dude who cares
Dont press it if they jump and condition them to standblock it and then the 5s1 becomes good its not that crazy
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>>550306774
I went on a date with a cute asian girl the other day actually we play arknights together
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>>550308706
mandarin
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i am so glad this game flopped
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>>550308192
I don't really believe there isn't a line at which they could implement a system mechanic so poorly or backwards that you wouldn't play the game.
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>>550309438
I've played league of legends for almost two decades ive seen worse game mechanics than you could even comprehend, pookie
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>>550309551
can't argue with that
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>>550310176
nta and not league but i couldn't design a worse game than sf6 if i tried
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>>550307570
>parries this post
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>>550310750
NTA but the character I really like has abysmal anti-airs so jumpy characters roll me and the fact that you recover insanely fast from being hit in the air frequently leads even high level players to eating shit because their opponent upbacked mid-blockstring, got hit, and then the attacker whiffs the next button and gets punished for it. Not sure that it's the worst game design ever but it's similarly a similarly retarded way of rewarding jumpers to 2XKO.
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>>550310176

imagine a class of healing character
It's the second most valuable class in the game, provides healing, shielding, completely steamrolls teamfights if left unchecked

Naturally, you target this class first in teamfights and they're generally squishy and immobile, right? Makes sense right?

NOW IMAGINE this character that's part of this class. Except its permanently invulnerable and works by sticking itself onto it's healing target like a backpack and cannot be hit unless you kill the person carrying it

IMAGINE THAT
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>>550311450
is yuumi even actually good though?
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>>550311568
>yeah they nerfed her so hard she has a 40% winrate and is effectively actively trolling your team when you pick her so its okay that they made her at all
when she was good that was possibly the worst any game has ever been and now that shes not good does it make it better? no
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>>550311692
Some people have girlfriends bro. There are a ton of casual modes in the game. She should've never been strong but being mad about her on principle is a little silly.
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>>550307717
Blame mahvel if you like, that's where they copied it from
>Air blocking is particularly powerful in UMvC3, as it removes the threat of high/low mixups, and there are no "air-unblockable" style attacks, like in many other games with air blocking. When defending against attacks, players usually want to retreat to the air as soon as possible to take advantage of this. In addition to this, blocking in the air at a low altitude can make it possible to punish attacks that are otherwise safe, as landing again will immediately end your guard stun.
https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/UMVC3/Strategy
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>>550311845
i dont disagree with that but in terms of strictly game mechanics it's absolutely the worst thing I can think of.
It'd be like if instead of making modern an option in the menu SF decided to make John Modern and he just played the game for you and did it better than everyone else and also you had no conventional way to counterplay him at all
Even if he gets nerfed if John Modern is ever the best character in the game shit is fucked
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>>550310750
to explain how shit sf6 is would take more time than i've currently got but basically its system mechanics are so ungodly powerful that they completely homogenize the entire cast. there are exactly two playstyles in the game
>random superdash in neutral
>fire a slow-moving projectile, then superdash behind it
the drive system also massively homogenizes the combos in the game: 90% of the time, your strongest option is button->button->superdash->button->button->superdash->special/super
then there's the parry system which is fucking disgusting, throw loops which are fucking disgusting, on and on
it's a bad game
also 90% of the cast looks fucking horrible, it's an UGLY ass game
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Sidekick is this game's equivalent of Yuumi btw
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>>550313243
its similar but not the same
the important distinction is that yuumi removes counterplay
You cannot target and jump on her like you can with every other member of her class
You cannot silence her, cc her, do anything about her being the reason they win in any capacity whatsoever

Sidekick plays the game for you a little bit sure but you still win the same way you win normally
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>>550313183
yeah unfortunately the pre-match zooms in on their faces and you get to see how shit and weird most of them look
actual in-game they look okay, that's fair enough
(and then you have bison who mogs everyone else by a wide margin)
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>>550313243
Sidekick would be Yuumi if it made it so the called assists had intangibility and couldn't be hit, and had a 60% winrate.
You cant have new players be PUNISHED for doing incorrect things.
You have to let them WIN so just make it so when they call assist they WIN
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>>550312827
It's just not a comparable thing at all, fighting games and ASSFAGGOTS are fundamentally different. You can have the baby casual character as long as they're never competitively viable in the team based game with 10 different hyper casual modes.
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>>550315874
Because their strict gameplay limitations that give them their unique identity makes it really hard to do this. The pony game tried and it did OK but the rest of the game suffered for it.
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>>550316074
what did he mean by this
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>ekko and ahri are back in style
see y'all in january
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>>550315659
yuumi was played in literally worlds
for like 3 years
she was pick/ban even
So yeah no they cant have yuumi
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wow this character is just a total avatar knockoff
she even tries to do bending poses but its so generic

she does have the yasuo tornado I wish yas had though thats cool
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>>550307995
that's just how it works
we aren't just using functions
we want to do sick shit with our favorite characters
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>>550325690
>we aren't just using functions
i'm glad fg players pushed back hard as fuck on that sentiment. i don't remember exactly who started it and was trying to push it (i think it was mvci era) but man what a disgusting mindset
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https://streamable.com/7s52r7
combofiend when asked 'where's magneto?'

>>550327289
combofiend was a capcom employee at the time,
and he was given the task of explaining why mvci had no x-men
without bringing up that the marvel/fox legal bs, of course
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>>550328541
ah fuck i do not envy him having to be that guy, i want to believe an actual player wouldn't really feel or believe that
>https://streamable.com/7s52r7
cute lol
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>matches still generally jittery
uhhhhgh
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Hidden blitzcrank tech
that's getting carried by being an ekko team so it's useless
https://x.com/HomeDepotemkin/status/2000352604455334201?s=20
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>>550338793
>taking advantage of opponent's good will
ew...
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dumb combo
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>>550339765
actual kino i cannot tell a lie it's rare for me to think "that's a saucy yasuo combo" but that's sick lol
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>>550307717
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i just want combos shortened by 25% and more air movement options for all the cast
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>>550351734
shorter combos would be nice
i think air movement for everyone wouldn't fix the movement issue, the slow characters would have dogshit strivelike airdashes and then speedy mix characters would just become even more top tier than they already are
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I just want a game that actually works and isn't bugged
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>>550352196
unforgivable
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good night tuko
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>>550352413
I guess its too much to ask for from this nepo dev team
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>>550241538
>most viewed trailer
>just because people wanted to drop Hitler comments on her
Is this the best 2xko can muster?
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Bump
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>>550325690
Can't relate. As long as the function isn't attached to something as hideous as >>550324414 I don't mind it just being functions.
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>>550312491
I missed this last night. I didn't realize this was a holdover from Mahvel and it actually makes perfect sense now. This game will never be for me. Thanks anon.
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https://x.com/Unconkable/status/2000959335011328114

They've come out and directly said that they are actively working to reduce combo length
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https://xcancel.com/unconkable/status/2000959335011328114#m

confirmed shorter combos and cait not being a happy chaos hitscan bullshit. Makes me unironically interested in the game again
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>>550370794
I hope you try to charge lariat to anti air someone in 1v1 slop in peace friend
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>>550375210
He mentioned "hitting headshots" so Im guessing she will have a stance where we can aim with a reticle and do more damage depending on where she hits
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>>550375210
Cait is going to be Falke to Vi's Ed obviously
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>not a hitscan character
....
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>>550375210
I mean this was obvious
There are no hitscan characters in marvel for them to rip off so of course she isnt going to hitscan.

Chris Redfield MAGNUM will be the fastest projectile she has
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this new captcha is insane
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>>550375527
I prefer tag sloppa and it works well in DBFZ but regardless this knowledge has freed me from my torment.
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I gotta say, watching darius gameplay in league and comparing it to 2xko

They really did not do a good job
Like the W spin attack he does and the big resetting dunk are completely absent from the tuko moveset is weird
Really shouldve given him some sorta combo ender dunk that can be looped or smth idk
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>>550378046
He has a giant spinning dunk as one of his special moves no?
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>>550375210
>shorter combos
they've said this every single time lol it isn't going to happen
and at this point i don't even want it, i've gotten so used to how this game is paced. if they make combos shorter then the "le heckin technical!!!!" characters are going to have even easier access to their high damage and be even more annoying to fight as a result
>noooo we promise cait will be fun also stop bullying us for arcane we made the decision a long time ago
doesn't matter how long ago you made the decision, it was bad
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How to deal with yasuo doing his weird sideswitch slide from fullscreen? Sometimes I manage to parry it sometimes they assist/last stand sameside and I get fucked no matter which direction I block
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>>550386376
when his head visibly ducks down you will know that he's going for the side switch which you can always parry. If he adapts to that he go for the empty side switch to bait the parry but his head doesn't visibly duck down as low so technically you can react to both options accordingly, technically. If you start to lock in on just that you will miss the 20 other mix up opportunities he has because he is a very badly designed character and the dev team don't know what they're doing
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Empty side switch you can also throw him out of it
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>>550383442
yeah but its only his super
Darius in league can use a quick dunk to get an extra tick of damage or gapclose and it's fast to buffer it through cc too
It's not solely an execute so it's kind of a shame to see it reduced
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>>550378046
feels great to me
i still don't like that they have him a projectile though (and also made it by far the worst one in the game and one of the worst moves in the game and made it share an input with his reversal which was a massive nerf to that move and he would literally be stronger without this in his kit but i digress)
the main thing is that all his little intricacies don't translate. such as his passive ad boost (biggest part of actually playing him) and his chain dunks. to me they mostly focused on his most common stuff in league, namely "big slow guy that kills you if he gets in" and good it feels to apprehend a high value target
idk how other darius fans feel about him in this game but i think they did great with him. wish his level 3 looked a little better but that's about it
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Thankfully exact moveset replication isn't riots priority otherwise teemo would have ended up with a blind
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>>550391414
this also
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wtf where's vi's W
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>>550391414
Would have been kino.
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>>550392574
>blinds you so even if you do get past the shrooms you can't hit him and he gets to run a block string and mix on you that you have to block first before the blind wears off and you can touch him
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>>550346805
i think we should hire this tranny as balance lead
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>>550395931
Wow, something unique that you couldn't find in any other fighting game. Can't have that
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>actually thinks it's a good idea to have a blind from a 5v5 game in a 1v1 game with little to no counterplay
I bet you think malzahar would be a good pick
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>>550397258
>Muh Malzahar
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>>550389180
I think chain dunks wouldve been sick af for some high level combo stuff
Maybe you get them in the corner and launch them and then you can just bounce them up and down like a ball
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>>550389180
Coward's Bane feels satisfying to land, feels horrid when blocked. Should be air unblockable.
Apprehend feels lackluster, probably due to being slow and nigh unusable raw if the opponent has meter for Parry. Also maybe have it make the opponent take more damage to simulate the passive Armor Pen.

The passive is neat enough, I enjoy the debuff making you take more chip. It's something.
However, wouldn't it be more interesting if it stacked? Say Darius would have certain normals/specials that apply the bleed and some that do not (namely, those where he does not hit with the tip of the axe, like his 5L). At maximum stacks, he deals 10% more damage and his hits refresh the bleed. This alone would open up more choice making in routing; do you go for routes that apply maximum bleed at the cost of damage? or something similar. Currently his light normals, air throw, L and H followup from Apprehend don't hit with the axe while medium, heavy buttons and everything else do. You'd probably do some adjusting so that some medium normals don't hit with the axe or maybe just leave that for Heavies, makes more thematic sense.
Make Decimate heal a symbolic amount on single hit and a reasonable amount on happy birthdays. That's it.

I don't know how you would translate a 1 second 90% slow or the refund, while auto attack cancels already inherently translate.
His ''ultimate'' needs to cull. That's a priority. I don't know, maybe make it need 5 stacks and <40% health or whatever, DBFZ has multiple OHKOs and it does not break the game, I'm sure the devs can handle.
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Glad that 2xko dev showed some humility and complimented SNK on their win.
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>>550396549
IMO it's a fucking travesty that Granblue plays more like the fighter adaptation of a moba and Guilty Gear has more unique characters.
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why is Jiren's tracking counter attack also a tracking command grab now?
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>>550399363
>Coward's Bane
agreed on all. hitting someone with that is maybe my biggest satisfaction playing him, it feels great. if not air unblockable it should at least make the opponent fully unable to do anything and have him be plus a billion when they hit the ground. there's no reason it should launch them backwards on block and only be +9 (not enough for him to do anything)
>Apprehend
apprehend is garbage outside of combos yeah. it should be as fast as warwick's 5s1. apprehend itself is a whole-ass "WARNING! INCOMING MIX!" signal even if you block it you have a chance to deal with the followup. up back beats 2/3 of its options. you can fuck with calling assists or using freestyle to program it, but even then other characters just... press button, receive mix like warwick's fucking 24f overhead that gives him a combo
>passive ideas
while this all sounds really cool and interesting, you have to look at the following, too:
>darius is intentionally designed to be the game's "easy to pick up" character
>if he had to interact with all of this, his overall damage wouldn't go up: it'd be lower on average, and only reach the current damage if he maxed all of that out
if i had to put all that thought into my routes while ekko/yasuo/ahri/teemo continue doing the same braindead retard shit that does more damage anyway i think i'd lose it desu
>decimate heal
would be sick, will never get (or if he did, it'd be a pittance, much like "s2s2 does extra damage if they're bleeding (10. 10 extra damage. raw)
>his ult
i think it should at least FUCKING APPLY BLEED
it'd be nice if it had some extra effect considering his other supers don't really have gimmicks (the sideswap on super 1 ends up being more of a hassle that you have to route around rather than a benefit: if it was invuln startup it would at least let you steal the corner on oki. and headless STILL doesn't delete projectiles like it's supposed to)
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>>550399831
>granblue plays like a moba
Yeah man hell no never post again
Having literally one shared game mechanic does not make something play like a moba

Granblue plays like streetfighter and where a dude with a scythe the size of his body can only swing it as far as he can punch that shit is ass
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>>550408615
i think that person probably mostly was referring to "specials in gbvs have cooldowns"
which, ew
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>>550409702
dead garbage
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>>550375210

Watch the nerfs affect Braum and Jinx combos before Yasuo, Ekko and Ahri
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>>550410945
i can only imagine they do it on a per character basis
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fuck wanting 1v1 mode, give me 3v3 mode
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>>550408869
>>550408869
>>550408869
yes exactly
that's the one shared game mechanic im talking about

It's like saying fighting games are just rock paper scissors because sometimes you guess what the opponent is going to do
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>>550409702
Deserved. In CotW you can actually queue from practice mode and the game doesn't suffer from memory leaks on top of having lower input latency (32ms for COTW on PC vs. 86ms for 2xko on PC). Oh and way more characters.
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jinx pusi on my face
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has anyone tried that overwolf app that flyquest put out?
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>>550408615
don't reply to me, qiyana nigger
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>>550415191
actually granblue is an warcraft-like fighting game it's not a moba-like.
just fyi that cooldowns originally came from warcraft not from mobas ik it's esoteric knowledge these days
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Sorry vifag, but this Cait is so pretty
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>>550413335
this all may be true but it looks and feels way worse in every way and that's a very hard feat to accomplish
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>>550419056
Objectively, COTW *is* more responsive bec6utbhas less than half the input lag of 2xko. This is not up for debate. Objectively, COTW has more characters. This is not up for debate. Hell, objectively, COTW has more chroma customization because it has color edit. All that other shit you mentioned is your dumbass subjective opinion.
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20 players ain't a city it's like a berg or some shit
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>city of the wolves
>no wolves
??
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>>550404578
One thing I forgot to mention Apprehend, it's kinda bad to have it be slow when it's League counterpart is lightning fast (and why it's so scary).
>darius is intentionally designed to be the game's "easy to pick up" character
>if he had to interact with all of this, his overall damage wouldn't go up: it'd be lower on average, and only reach the current damage if he maxed all of that out
>if i had to put all that thought into my routes while ekko/yasuo/ahri/teemo continue doing the same braindead retard shit that does more damage anyway i think i'd lose it desu
But you see, this is the world of ideas. Obviously if Darius were like this, the rest of the cast and damage values would be different too. Darius would still be easy to play the same way he is now: big buttons, big damage.
I don't think there's a single character in the game that I look and think ''oh okay, that's a perfect adaptation of the character from League of Legends''. Maybe Illaoi or Blitz.

I just really wish the devs were League people, not FGC people. The FGC does what the FGC does, they'll just copy their favorite characters from their favorite kusoges and copy whatever mechanic they personally enjoy or is currently 'hype'.
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yikes who knew 2xko was such a lagfest.
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>>550416353
my wives
I was the one taking the picture thats why they're looking at the camera like that
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>>550416005
Nigger, you are the dumbest person in this entire site.
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>>550428948
Nah that's this guy who made a post saying
>granblue plays like the fighter adaptation of a moba
because it has cooldowns like lmao there is no world where you got out of grade school

If I were a funnier and more dedicated man I'd make a post listing all the games that have cooldowns in them that'd be a top tier post desu
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>>550427991
yeah i personally feel that apprehend should be as fast as the average overhead. it can be blocked high and low, upback beats sunder and grab, and the fact that even if you block it instead of parrying or mashing, you STILL get to interact despite how slow it is... i often feel like they just don't want him to be top tier (which is fine with me)
honestly lol if we got "the ultra fast chars with giga mix and full screen control and better frame data do... LESS DAMAGE than the big slow chars who have to work for every hit," he would feel amazing to play
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>>550429224
At least this time you're not pretending to not be yourself.
Every time I see some retarded shit in here, I know it's you. I have never seen someone be so fucking retarded in everything. You're like the opposite of a polymath.
Well, it does help that this general is literally just one Darius dude, one yellow fever dude, one retarded nigger and random off posts by people who come and go.
When are those dozens of characters they have ready to go coming out, by the way?
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>>550431284
WHEN THEY GET DONE FUCKING YOUR MOM!!!!!
owned!!!!!!!!!
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You forgot the schizo doomtroon numberfag btw
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>>550431774
and the cotw compadre
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>>550431284
?? ive literally never pretended to be anyone else
im also not the guy who calls you a timmy so thats one other guy for your schizo list btw.

Also can we go back to arguing about how moba-like granblue is that was more fun than this obsessive ad hominem
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>>550432090
>>550431774
>>550431284
all me btw
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If it makes you feel better air block bro, there are pros that don't like land cancel either
https://x.com/jonathan_tene/status/2001124954075758907?s=20
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>>550432698
It doesn't really matter. The devs worship Mahvel and they won't deviate.
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So, is the game any good?
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>>550433619
Depends.
Are you a fighting game fan?
Then no.
Are you a League of legends fan?
No.
Are you a straight male?
Then it's not for you.
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>>550431284
Yeah its any good I'd say.
But it do kinda need an extra 6 characters to be actually good
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>>550414408
not yet
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>>550433619
"good?" idk about that but it's fun. it just needs more characters better balance and console release

>>550431284
>Darius dude, one yellow fever dude, one retarded nigger and random off posts by people who come and go
the 4 heavenly kings of /2xko/...
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>>550433619
also, it's literally like 4gb
why not try it out
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bump
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>ekko can do 50% meterless and assist less off 2l
They need to nerf this mother fucker now. This game will never live if there is this much favoritism and blantent brokenness. Nerf s1, nerf hit disjointed massive normals, nerf his damage
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>>550448115
i think the only way we get a damage nerf to ekko is if they amp the living fuck out of his pulse combos so that they can do ALMOST as much damage as a fully optimized combo, purely because otherwise he'd need too many touches at low level which is what they're balancing this game around
sucks ass doesn't it
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>>550448403
Yes it does suck. And every fighting game i play im generally against nerfing because its stupid. But this is too fucking much. You cant have free projectiles that stay on screen forever that freeze you for 3 seconds and grt full combos by just existing on top of all the shit i said before. This is my first time ever calling for a nerf, this fucking faggot needs it bad
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>>550448767
i'm sure they're going to slap his wrist every patch for the rest of the game but it'll never be damage and it'll never be enough. he's literally gotten hit every single patch and he's still 6/8 of every top 8 lol
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I wonder how headshots will work for Cait
Seems kind of hard for it to make sense without hitscan projectiles

Maybe they'll be canned followups from hitting normal projectiles where it's just an animation of her shooting you in through the head that could work
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>>550449229
i will not go berserk, register a reddit account, and write a 500 word diatribe. we were all gold at one point. i won't do it

>>550449382
i think people are taking that word too literally but it sounds scary
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>>550449592
In league they did actually make it so her headshots track to the target's head
You surely can't call something a headshot if it doesnt shoot someone in the head that wouldnt make sense

If it was just an enhanced projectile situation you'd just call it a critical strike or some sort
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there needs to be a sticker with the implication of "suck my dick you fucking retard" that you can send whenever a yasuo/ekko player says ggs
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>>550448990
I can't fathom him being stronger thsn his current state. What have they taken away from ekko?
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>>550450409
He used to get 75% more meter, his assist went fullscreen and was unreactable, his balls stayed out for another 30 seconds and were plus at close range, im forgetting some other stuff but those are the big ones
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>>550450409
it's all been absolute pussy type shit. "timewinder startup is now 2 frames slower, timewinder is now active for 2 fewer frames, assist comes out 2 frames slower" but nothing relevant. even the reduced meter gain from the most recent patch doesn't matter because he builds so much meter to begin with that he'll always be starting his combos/pressure with 2 lol
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>>550450868
Yeah they didnt nerf ekko enough but 2 frames is far from nothing
A 2 frame nerf is enough to flip overheads from being spammed to being committal and a 2 frame buff is enough to flip overheads from being staples to being broken as fuck
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>>550451158
the larger the number starts off as, the less a small nerf matters. "this projectile automatically wins the round for you and it sits on screen for 80 frames->78 frames" literally does not matter. same with the startup/recovery of timewinder, if you're ever in trouble you just call assist and tag out, it literally does not matter. the only nerfs that even slightly affected him were the ones to my time and even then that assist is STILL vomit inducingly good
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>>550451507
I agree that percentages matter.
They nerfed timewinder assist by 5 frames of startup (30% nerf overall), super assist by 10 frames (66% nerf overall) and reduced the duration of timewinders by 25 frames (25% nerf overall)
So you're just wrong about them being small and insignificant he was objectively like 20% stronger the previous patch. Obviously he's still the best character in the game in current patch, but saying they nerfed him by 2 frames only is still stupid.
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>>550451804
i didn't bother looking up the numbers because they weren't significant because there is literally no difference in how it feels to fight pre and post nerf ekko sorry
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>>550452247
Gratz. Here's some objective truths you can surely agree with
>a 26 frame overhead is terrible and gets parried every time.
>a 24 frame overhead is fair.
>a 22 frame overhead is unreactable.
2 frames isn't even a 10% nerf and is
>pussy shit that literally does not matter
but objectively it does do something as demonstrated.
The one who brought up percentages was you, if you can't tell the difference between post and pre-nerf ekko than you surely cannot tell the difference between using a move such as darius apprehend and a move such as warwick overhead.
If you can tell a difference in that instance then you are simply biased against ekko, which is fair but not lucid.
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>>550452685
unfortunately none of that matters. pre and post nerf ekko are functionally the same character
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>>550453043
>none of that matters *to me*
No balance patch functionally changes a character. That has never happened.
What did happen was the balance patch didn't nerf him enough for you to be able to react and percieve. It's fine, and it is true that most people would not be able to react to a 24 frame overhead any better than they would a 22 frame one, that's totally normal.
But objectively speaking there is a noticeable difference in the way we would treat that 22 frame overhead. A 25% difference between 100 frames and 75 frames and a 30% difference between 22 frames and 17 frames is real, if you cannot perceive the difference that's well and good but you cannot say it did
>literally nothing
without demonstrating your own inefficiencies.
For you, I trust there would be no functional difference between you fighting a character that moves 2 frames slower on their most used moves and a character who does not
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>>550375210
How long do you think they lock in the character in advance? Clearly they didn't have the time to make the arcane champs they have now like season 2. I'd say that champs after they made it a 2v2 game or a no go.
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>>550453582
yeah the thing is they didn't nerf ekko enough for it to matter
you can watch any top level game, you can watch any top 8, or you can go play at grandmaster. i'm not interested in your theorycrafting about irrelevant and make believe shit unfortunately lol
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>>550454134
I believe you complained that apprehend should be the same speed as other overheads in the game earlier in this very thread. Apprehend is currently 28 frames and most overheads are 26 frames.
Now by your admission this 2 frame buff is irrelevant, make believe and would not even matter at all correct? So why do you care about him receiving such a buff?
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>>550241538
It's pretty funny when you look at the videos around it, none of them got that big and considering how little views Warwick's video got, only vid even close to it is the release cinematic trailer with Ahri on the thumbnail which implies theres just a lot of people watching their lol waifus and nothing else
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>>550454247
you're making up a ton of shit about imaginary buffs and nerfs to overheads and percentages based on whatever you feel like but ultimately all it comes down to is this:
ekko wasn't nerfed significantly enough for it to make a difference in how fighting him feels
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>>550454610
My percentages are based off the difference between the startup frames from 1 patch to the startup frames from another patch, actually.
And I agree with that otherwise. You don't need to cite top 8s, I've never disagreed that ekko is the best character in the game.
But to you there is no perceivable difference between 100 frames and 75 frames.
I'm not sure there is any single nerf they could do to Ekko that would make you perceive a difference.
And due to that I think you turning around and complaining about a 2 frame discrepancy between the attack of one character and another is silly, that should be small potatoes to you.
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>>550454790
you're pretty clearly just posting for the fun of it so i'm gonna shitpost too
if a move does 120% of your health and kills you instantly and the devs change it so it only does 100% of your health and kills you instantly it's a 20% nerf and changes more than you might think
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>>550454790
oh although,
>I'm not sure there is any single nerf they could do to Ekko that would make you perceive a difference.
yeah, they could make him take 4 touches to kill with fully optimized combos. that'd maybe be enough to knock him down from god tier to top tier
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>>550454902
Very biting post.
Sadly the point does not hit as hard, because you're on record >>550431223 here complaining that apprehend is 2 frames slower than the average overhead. You cannot be making issues about game balance changes being pussy shit and useless when they're 2 frames on one end and then asking for 2 frame buffs on the other.
These two things are indeed, factually contradictory and I hope you can reconcile that with yourself.
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>>550455165
i'm sorry you don't agree that a 20% nerf is significant
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>>550455210
Oh no I can fully accept that I would not be able to perceive the difference between 120% and 100%, that's true.
This point does not accomplish anything because there is no other human who would be able to perceive it either.
On the other hand, many people can perceive the difference between 100 frames and 75 frames or 17 frames and 22 frames, but you cannot.
And you pretended like you could when you complained about a difference of 28 frames to 26 frames when you made this complaint here >>550431223
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>>550455001
Interesting and I can agree that that might be something you notice.
So with that admission, can you give me one more?
You've stated there is no perceivable frame data nerf that Ekko could receive.
Therefore, the concession that the difference between apprehend and the average overhead is unnoticable, does not matter and does not change a single thing about how you play Darius or play against him should be an easy one. It's a mere 2 frames and buffing it will not change a single thing whatsoever. You agree yes?
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>>550455992
no
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>>550456272
Then you condemn yourself to the pits of hypocrisy forevermore. I salute you.
We are all hypocritical in our own ways but you are proudly and shamelessly so. It does take guts to admit to hypocrisy even though you had to run a gamut through denial, ignorance and anger to do so. But I still respect it
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>>550456446
nah, i'm not a hypocrite
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>>550456580
Sadly, you are on record making contradictory statements one post after another. It is far too late to backtrack now. You have been branded a hypocrite, for life. Any time Darius gets nerfed and you complain you will be forced to reconcile with the fact that if those nerfs had been given to Ekko you would have called them piss useless and pussy shit. A sad life but I hope you face it on two feet with your head held high.
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>>550456817
nah, i would be 100% justified in them nerfing my character just like i'm 100% justified in complaining that the placebo nerfs for the SSS+++ god tier thanos character aren't enough
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>>550456960
>i would be 100% justified in them nerfing my character
in complaining about them nerfing my character* lol oh no minor typing error i'm done for
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>>550456960
You would complain about things you could not perceive? Things that would make no notable difference in gameplay between players? No notable difference when playing as Darius nor when playing against him. That would have no change to top 8s or playrates? Just the very idea of the words on the paper would cause anger within you?
That cannot be true.
That would be like complaining about the wind blowing or the sun shining. Truly useless, pointless behavior, nobody would do such a thing.
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>>550457120
do you wanna play some duos
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>>550454592
its an advertisement. it plays on videos no matter what. go look at the number of comments and likes. its literally an ad that plays before whatever vid you are trying to watch. thats where the views come from
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>>550457192
There's no point in playing right now I'll play when they placebo buff approximately the 5 most used moves of my main Darius by 2-5 frames each and have no impact on any tier list or even game whatsoever.
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>>550457539
ok
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>>550457364
>its an advertisement.
fucking lmao so that's the same for the release cinematic then?
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i'll admit that getting ragebaited for 2 whole hours was at least a more interesting way to bump the thread than just talking to myself but if you actually want to get me upset next time you should just say "uh darius is not cool. he sucks in fact" and that'll get me to write a 9 post long diatribe
good night tuko
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uh darius is not cool. he sucks in fact
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>>550462916
BITCH!!!!!!!!!! you thought i was gone just because i made my ritualpost? you've got another thing coming bucko
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fr though Darius is gay as fuck. Generic bitch character made for people cannot fathom not smashing their face into their stick
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Darius sucks, he's a shit generic design with an equally shit personality, someone saw characters inspired by Gus from Berserk and made a worse version of that.
His gameplay in lol and 2xko is boring and bad, thoroughly uninteresting, even his voice acting is generic, easily the worst character in the roster at least Ekko has the personality of being black.
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i can't pin point why the game is so fucking boring to watch, i don't think it's just for ekko and yasuo
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>>550475917
It's darius
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>>550475917
Its because the game is so utterly predictable. The gameplay loop is literally champ A does something into assist ekko/yasuo into an unreactable sandwich mixup into 30 second long combo into oppressive oki. Or run around the stage until you get your assist and then jump scare with that assist into everything I mentioned prior. Its not interesting when that is the entire competition, everyone plays exactly the same, the insane damage removes all tension from the game and its viewing experience because everyone know its a two touch game, all teams homogenise to the same thing (you're not special for playing blitz when you team him with ekko), the fuses are lack luster and don't really add anything special to unique team building, supers are too abundendent and it removes the hype from the game, and generally the characters are badly designed with bad kits that do too much for them further homogenising their gameplay - this is a universal complaint not specific to any one champ

tldr: you know whats going to happen before it happens because the game is shit
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>>550475917
it is. when the exact same character combo wins what, 80%? or so of tournaments, it feels so pointless to even watch. why go to the movies if you already know how they end?
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>>550475917
I have never watched anything for pure Timmy reasons, and usually try to analyze the gameplay I watch or look, but if I had to guess, it's just not flashy enough.
Players complain about game freezes and long lvl 3s and super animations, but that stuff is good for the casuals who have no idea what they are looking at on the screen and have never played the game
I do agree with that one anon who said riots characters blend in with the background, and generally they don't fill the screen with particles when they attack or do things
Dbfz is essentially the same gameplay loop but worse mechanics, but it's beloved because people like dragonball and giant kamehameha filling the screen
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>>550457120
sometimes I worry that I come off autistic and then this guy reminds me where that bar really is
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>>550475917
is there anything this game has done right?
dariusfag need not reply with 'darius' we already know
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>>550475917
it's fucking kuso with zero neutral
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>>550491358
da-
>
ahem
capcom has just
>released a nothing burger patch after nearly an entire year of people desperately waiting for balance adjustments, so bad that ive seen capdrones posting uninstall screens and Japanese players are complaining for the first time since the game came out
>on top of that, they just released hud customizations that cost as much as a fucking skin and cant be obtained with money, and all they do is change your meters' appearances
>asked 6k yen for viewers to have the right to watch mai and bison throw loop each other
>spend three years adjusting the game so little that sf6 s3 is the exact same game as closed beta 1 just with more characters despite fans begging for serious system changes, absolutely 0 communication
>unironically the worst sf roster in history with horrible dlc picks
by comparison, 2xko is fully f2p including all characters and stages, with frequent patches and lots of communication from the devs. however you feel about the gameplay itself, everything AROUND the game is amazing by comparison
oh and netcode
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>>550494135
>cant be obtained with money
WITHOUT* spending real money*
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>>550491557
it is kuso but there's neutral
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>>550450738
What the FUCK do you mean it used to be plus at close range? WHY?
>>550450868
Not to mention HE DOESNT NEED FUCKING METER so who gives a fuck if its nerfed. He does FIFTY (50) FUCKING PERCENT OFF A 2L METERLESS AND NO ASSIST. nerfing meter on ekko is like giving usain bolt shoes he doesnt prefer, he'll still smoke everyone on fucking earth
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>>550497645
it's fully written and maintained by fans
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Meter nerfs were targeted toward high level where ekko would just spam super combos and have enough meter to run install mix on oki, it's not going to save you from him wavedashing into you and getting a hit in the first place though
Also for ahri and double down who would also spam supers
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>>550498125
>>>/pol/523776983
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>open tuko
>ahri
>not allowed to play the game
>ekko
>not allowed to play the game
>yasuo
>not allowed to play the game
>illaoi
>not allowed to play the game
>darius
>exclusively seen as assist with the top 4
>blitzcrank
>exclusively seen as assist with the top 4
>jinx
>exclusively seen as assist with the top 4
>braum
>exclusively seen as assist with the top 4
>warwick
>either not high enough elo to see actually good ones, or are all dogshit
>vi
>either not high enough elo to see actually good ones, or are all dogshit
>teemo
>either not high enough elo to see actually good ones, or are all dogshit
so is high masters just plat level in other fgs or is this game just horrendously unbalanced
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>>550501086
>didn't put teemo under not allowed to play the game
?
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>>550494135
I don't mean to be rude but I don't know how to put this in any other way, I didn't ask what Crapcum has done wrong, I asked what 2XKO does right. They're retarded and Capcom fans are mindless drones.
>2xko is fully f2p including all characters and stages, with frequent patches and lots of communication from the devs.
Frequent nothingburger patches but the last, I'd argue, is straight up wrong. The F2P is nice though, so that's 1.5 points. Add the netcode to the mix and that's 2.5, but it is at the very least a pain in the ass to play with people from other regions so the netcode being that good is half a waste, so that's 2.25 things they've done right.
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2xko desperately needs a for fun mode or some rotating game mode that riot usually does, I've been sick for the past week and half and the only thing I've been able to play is all random team pulse combo for fun and even that's a hassle to play while sick
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>>550497935
>he doesnt need meter because he can do 50%
You are new, 50% really isn't that good by itself. If you tag out you'll heal to 70-80 pretty quickly.
Ekko can do 80-90% characters with 2 bars and a decent combo and he was doing it off of every every single hit last patch.
Also every bar also makes his blockstrings safe because you can just panic hit the timewinder super and be plus eighty.
Granted he is still doing all that, and its still dogshit but it was even worse last patch
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>>550504589
>You are new
i am, havnt played for a week
>50% really isn't that good by itself
yeah but down here in shitter emerald you're getting two touched off any touch with easy combos and a light starter is insane
>Ekko can do 80-90% characters with 2 bars and a decent combo and he was doing it off of every every single hit last patch.
im starting to see why ppl stopped playing. tried watching this skinhoff dude whos videos stopped over a month ago, along with a bunch of other people whos most recent vids are 1-2 months ago. jesus christ
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>>550505659
>i am, havnt played for a week
havn't played for even a week total*
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>>550505659
Just start tagging out more and 50% combos will become easy wins for you.
If you want to climb you need a 65-70% bnb for 1 bar but every character can get there pretty easily
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>>550506187
>If you want to climb you need a 65-70% bnb for 1 bar
i stopped playing ranked to actually lab block strings and do combos. does this 65%+ bnb need to be solo? or do you mean get this 65% doing the up + tag to extend and get more dmg?
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>>550503078
all of that about sf6 was to put 2xko's goods into perspective ig
the patches haven't been huge, and little has changed, but genuinely, the fact that we get them at all + the devs state what they're trying to do with them (whether or not they accomplish that) is big
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>>550507434
60%+ per touch is a good place to be, regardless of what it costs, though your team does also come into consideration
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>>550507434
50% for solo is about average for decent bnbs w/super for the cast, you tend to break past that once you start labbing some tag launch combos w/super
What team you on?
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>>550508185
got ya
>>550508675
vi/darius, the only two appealing characters in the game to me. i can do darius's corner combo but vi's combos are super basic with no s1 dash
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>>550509025
Pretty sure there's a combo with double down super tag where you can Darius super twice while vi ground slam super is going, that should be pretty easy dmg
Have fun labbing friend
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>>550509025
nice team choice in my fully unbiased opinion
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Oh and if you ever want to practice vi electrics, make sure you turn on frame data in training, it'll show you indicators for the timing
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>>550438846
Not sure if I'm the retarded nigger or the rando.
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>>550510571
what matters is not the label placed upon you by others but the label you choose for yourself
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>>550511075
Then it's decided. I am THE retard.
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>>550511246
there u go
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>>550509025
vi pointer darius assist
5L/2L > 5M/2M > 5H > 6H > tap s1 > 5L > 5M > 5H > S2 mash > S1.L uncharged > S1.M uncharged > call assist > S2 super mash > tag > 2S2 > headless > 2S2 and u now have corner on darius and should take ~80%, no electrics required anywhere on the screen

this vi starter works for most combos, so whoever else wants to test it out go ahead
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>>550524045
Just let it die. It deserves to.
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>>550531363
no
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>>550531801
i hate this kind of art where it's just a traced photo from whatever instagram whore with the face of the character slapped on
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>>550534014
Not that I have a problem with that, but here then
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damn, /vg/ is fast tonight
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>>550535301
god i wish i were black so i could get a girl like jinx
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>The spammer's branching out
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>>550543630
ekko already dropped that bitch for ahri anyway
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>>550548276
why do league champs all rook same
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>>550552569
no unifying artstyle
fortiche sucks, also
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im kinda excited to play cait
especially if she gets some sexy skins
I hope she's just a straightforwards gun character and they dont try to give her a bunch of gimmicks though. The less complicated a gun girl the more I like them, if she starts pulling out pistols and batons and stuff I'll be kinda annoyed.
I just want kicks and pistol whips and maybe some grenades thats it
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>>550559651
despite how much i've bitched about her inclusion there's nothing i can do about it and i will be trying her out purely because i like the idea of having a zoner in my kit but don't enjoy teemo and jinx's everything is too annoying
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>>550559651
dont worry, she'll have bigger and faster buttons than rush down characters just like jinx does
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>>550560207
Sick sounds good. Unironically they need it when they cant backdash spam

Just gimme some strong projectiles that wallbounce people, some trick shots and a few grenades and I'll be a happy zoner and ill main tf out of her
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honestly my biggest point of curiosity about cait is how much damage she's gonna have
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>>550189324
jesus how the fuck is it still there, game was unplayable after 30 mins at launch
what kind of shitty programmers do they have
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>>550560863
>implying jinx cant backdash spam
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>lux merch in background in the most recent dev video
...
i mean i guess it'd be okay...
i'd rather have garen but i guess lux would be ok...
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>>550462916
>>550463860
>>550471843
im bored and haven't drawn in forever
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good night tuko
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>>550561253
She can wavedash a little, but her backdash doesn't go very far so people can just run her down if they really wanted to
If she's anything like jinx and teemo her light buttons are going to suck but have good mediums
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do you think jinx/cait will be viable?
how does jinx/teemo perform? Especially against rushdowns
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>>550599960
Jinx Cait could probably work okay if Cait has a decent assist, jinx could set up traps for her like teemo sets up shrooms and tags out to jinx, the only issue is jinx traps don't stay out as long so it would probably be a more aggressive team
You can still hard zone rushdown, but jinx/teemo doesn't do really well close range, so it's pretty rough if they ever get in
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>>550566679
that is a lightly suspicious lux
who's the figurine though
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>>550561253
literally just run at her and backhand her if she tries to do that shit is the laggiest thing ever
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>>550516529
i like how the wall bonce has to be perfectly timed or it just drops
>vi s2 super > tag > darius 2s2
so i'm not sure if this was a typo, but the ground projectile doesnt hit from darius doesnt hit when vi is using a super that knocks the opponent in the air, unless you have a video of this
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>>550548276
the OG characters were all designed by the same people who had the most generic of tastes, then when it blew up in China they started to make characters that appeals to the Chinese, who has the most samey generic tastes
Ahri is still hot though
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>>550621951
Old league caitlyn was peak shitty steampunk girl
Her later skins and designs tended toward waifu bait and made her less goofy looking after she got popular
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>>550621951
>the OG characters were all designed by the same people who had the most generic of tastes,
They had SOVL because they really were just trying to do every trope before everything became a DEI gimmickfest.
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>>550627536
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>>550628476
SOVL.
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>>550628224
>>>/pol/523859384
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>>550631173
Fuck off, retard.
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>>550631375
>no u
i expected nothing less from a brain dead parasite
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Can someone explain why this Ahri combo works?
He backdashes and dashes in again while the Lvl.1 is out and this seems to keep the last hit out for longer and able to connect on the ground/frame kill the ideal timing for S2. But when I do this Ahri just absorbs the lvl.1 orb and I can't get the last pick up no matter what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpJzPcXnK28?t=43m05s
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>>550631445
>>no u
>When the entire post is just "fuck off"
How else am I supposed to reply, dipshit? Sorry for casually insulting DEI, I guess that makes my post off-topic.
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i find it hilarious that none of you guys run duos. the main draw of this game completely flopped.
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>>550632691
ive duoed with a few people from these threads, very fun
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>>550632691
i specifically play fighting games cause i'm asocial and not a team player
this is antithetical to my core
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so many fucking warwicks today and i'm getting -9'd by all of them
i wish his 5s1 were punishable by my team xd
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this game is no way beginner friendly. the amount of timed links in this game insane, this game is basically only for autists
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>>550641661
you can do 50% with an extremely simple combo on every single character
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*explodes your computer in real life*
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>>550632691
>doesn't have friends irl to run duos with
Do people really
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>>550641661
I think it's cool, you can have sick punishes/combos and be a 10/10 in that regard while everyone is doing 8/10 combos. Unlike any modern game where high master and tokido do the same undroppable combo found on day 1
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Bite at their heels
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>>550644881
my friend that used to be into fgs got into tcgs and now that's literally all he does
sad sad
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>>550632691
all of my friends that I play fighting games with hate tag fighters. They all gave tuko a chance and they all hated that it was a tag fighter. Duos or not, they don't want to play it
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>>550641661
Fg streamer of the year could do it, so they can too
https://x.com/LilyPichu/status/1997100053002141890?s=20
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>>550647375
ew
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>>550647375
Will any of yall go crawling back to league 2? Not me I never was a league player.
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>>550647375
xd there is no way unless the port every champion and gacha skin over too
Nobody is going to swap when people have spent like 10k on their accounts at this point
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>>550647538
i would give it a try but as >>550648374 said i am not buying all my skins over again (lie. i will always open my wallet for darius)
it really depends on what the roster looks like though. like if they launched that shit and it was basically the exact same game i wouldn't stick with it
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>>550647538
I'd try it out but unless they put Qiyana and all the polygons in her ass in then I wouldnt stick with it
She's the only reason I learned league in the first place
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Gcyoshi is running around in gm/challenger lobbies playing blitz teemo sidekick BTW, just saw him on stream
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>>550657332
i've heard about him doing this
i think it's cool that he's that good at the game but also he's on the dev team so he's had oh 10 years to get ahead lol
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The holiday ahris are starting to come out
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>>550663250
Farting.
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>>550663449
Sniffing??
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ahri's gameplan is so boring. All she does is airdashing away fishing for fireballs
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>>550666279
they need to destroy this bitch in the January patch desu
0 commitment to anything safe as fuck best movement great damage amazing mix
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lost lp because the menu was laggy, and it didn't read my fuse selection
then opponent chose stage, and i was locked into my fuse

won 2-1 in the end once i did get to pick freestyle :/
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if you get thrown, you should not be able to burst while you're on the ground
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I think you can tank your casual lobby mmr if you play like shit enough, I managed to get myself into a entire lobby of lvl 2 just started playing and silver timmies for the first time since I started playing the game
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>>550663250
this is the opposite of what i criticzed here >>550534014
great pic, i really like the tail balls
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>>550679272
that's fucked
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>>550680731
Well I did my duty, I ran around playing teemo and got some rage quits
They're never coming back
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>>550686464
it's honestly crazy how that character basically disappeared overnight because every time i fight him he still feels fucking crazy strong
might just be my team of darius blitz but god every time he does two mushroom supers in one combo i wanna scream
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>>550631604
I can't get it to work either, and was slowing the game down to try to get frame perfect dashes
The combo works if you jM into 2s2 instead of the lights and you can get the dash after, but not sure how he did it here
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>>550688327
I think the thing that scared off metafags was shrooms being hit earlier, even nerfed up back shroom is really good, you could probably just spam it brainlessly point blank before and get a full combo on someone trying to run in on you
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>>550694514
yeah that's the thing the character is still godlike
being able to hit them on the way down makes him so slightly weaker...
but, again, it could just be my team. if i was playing faster characters with faster frame data it's probably harder for him to deal with those
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>>550694514
it wasnt anything to do with the shrooms, it was the nerf to his jumping slingshot. The increased recovery made it so that his zoning is noticeably weaker. As strong as he was, Teemo still had very polarising match ups against Vi Jinx and Warwick. With that nerf, those match ups are even worse and its also incentivised a lot of players to just straight up run at him because if they get under the slingshot they can get a full punish into death. It wouldn't be an issue if 80% of games weren't Ekko or Yasuo, the two fastest characters with the best normals and special moves to deal with Teemo. There are 11 characters in the game, 5 of them are bad to horrible match ups for Teemo, two of them are the most popular characters on almost every team, other other 3 are the next most popular characters so Teemo will always have to deal with them. Its just better to play a weaker character that doesn't have as many bad match ups unless your name is Inzem
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i should learn warwick
>goes to training mode
>presses 5s1
ok ive learned him. time for ranked
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>>550705762
unironically reactable
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Qiyana with pyke assist so broken
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So far most every egirl I've ran into or seen playing in casuals are all playing an ahri team, so I think Cait was necessary as an egirl pick
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>>550739408
Lux probably should have been prioritized then.
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>>550742492
Probably, but arcane pandering is a thing
At least lux probably will be the first demacia champ to get in
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>>550617775
isnt darius 2s2 his apprehend?
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the blackie keeps posting these garbage webms
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I'm getting an itch to play League, if I do it might as well play a bit of 2XKO again as the biggest impediment is Vanguard which I'll have installed.
Then I remember that the devs thought it a good idea to have 30% of the roster be zoners.
And they thought it was acceptable to have Ekko, Yasuo, Teemo and Ahri in the game the way they are.
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>>550747210
>Teemo
But he's an honest mid tier after all his nerfs now, he barely tops anymore and is only played by character specialists at this point
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>>550747949
Why waste your time typing this shit?
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>no argument
I accept your concession
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>>550749137
He fights for justice.
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>>550747210
>30%
70% plays like zoners
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Guys I'm getting zoned by blitzcrank punch, what do I do
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>>550753531
Have your Thresh use his E.
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so are we saving credits to buy cait or not, chat
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>>550745673
S1 is is apprehend, the move that pulls you in, s2 is the big cleave special and headless
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>>550756113
Save it for more interesting characters unless you want to be a zoner memer with Teemo/Jinx.
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are ranks still inflated like in the beta?
i placed plat in both and i'm worried, not gonna waste my time grinding ranked if fucking max dood can get challenger
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>>550760629
if you grind ranked you'll naturally get to grandmaster eventually but challenger is top 100 RP players
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>>550756113
I have 9 tokens from my arcane pass
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>>550715060
not for me
i can't even react to di in sf6
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>>550760629
unfortunately, yes
you can get into grandmaster by just playing
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>>550765691
nobody can
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>>550760629
you get to masters by being retarded, GM by being competent and chall is actually hard. max gave up way before he even got close
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>log in
>chase opponent all game
>chase opponent all game
>chase opponent all game
>chase opponent all game
>close game
i don't really think they can even fix this gameplay loop unless they completely gut assists and all zoners
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>>550762140
>>550765968
>>550766125
fuuuuu
well if challenger is actually hard i guess it's still worth playing, kinda sad that i have to be fucking top 500 in the playerbase to get to the good players but it's something
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game could have been so good if they had just kept it 1v1
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yep, real shame
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>>550766490
up back jinxes and ahris just make me want to sit still and no rm. its not fun and its worse than zoning in other games, even dbfz.
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go play your gambling simulators then nigga
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at least the gambling simulators actually function as games
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>>550768050
why does your kind feel the need to force others to play your singleplayer game
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>>550768050
Who are you even talking too? Did you feel attacked in some way by a recent post? They need to make it mandotory to reply to a post of youre going to be a little bitch
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1v1 wouldn't change shit
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it would let me molest zoners with vi without getting bodychecked by a darius or illaoi assist on a 2 second cooldown
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True, this nepo dev team can't even put input history in replays. They arent really capable of anything desu
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we should do some jugg vs jugg in these threads
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>>550766490
Recently I played against someone who tried to play DBFZ like it was 2XKO.
I have to say, it's night and day. In that game you have actual movement and tools to deal with upbacking
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>super dashes you
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>2h on reaction beceause its obvious and easy
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>calls one of the million beam assists to make it safe
Sorry zoner, I have out skilled you
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>kid hasnt played dbfz in so long they forget calling a beam assist has to be timed with the SD so its easy to see the beam will come
dont you fucking call me that z slur ever again. call me a faggot, tranny, maga cultie, retard, piece of shit, whatever, but you call me that z word we're fighting
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I would play Vi/Teemo. Thoughts?
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>>550775839
why aren't you?
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>>550768951
the game already plays a lot better as jugg vs jugg, ignoring the constant ToDs.
it's literally right there
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>>550775991
Haven't gotten around to making friend play yet.
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>the game feels better to play as jugg
massive disingenious faggot alert
guarantee you havent even tried to learn how to use a single tag mechanic

jugg is no different from any other fuse except you have bigger numbers.
theres no game feel to having higher stats theres just a lack of guilt for being a retard and being to retarded to even try to learn to not be a retard
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he's convulsing
nigga takes it as a personal attack when people point out tag is garbage
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>>550777413
Duos is pretty cozy, it's like impossible to have a bad experience since you're literally assisting your friend and helping them play
Tag launching into your friend never gets old either
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>>550781134
I just meant someone to play with.
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>>550780737
you can say anything is garbage but something can't "feel better" when all it does is take options away from you
what are you feeling? the void?
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lmao tag haters still use this general? what kind of mental illness is that?
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>>550781226
Do you need a duo to play a second character or something?
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>>550784094
No, what I keep meaning is just a buddy to play against and that's it.
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>complaining about jinx zoning
Just get gud
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>>550788558
show us you being good
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>week old thread
Sheesh
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>>550801938
console release will save us
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who is a character that plays most similarly to gio from strive?
here a summary if you don't know her https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Giovanna
this is the only archetype i know how to play
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>>550803175
a patch that actually changes the dogshit in the meta will save us (never)

enjoy the temporary active thread when cait drops and watch it returns to dogshit
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>>550805021
vi easily
just use your shimmy as gio dash
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>>550805021
so you know how everyone talks about gio's spiral arrow and how it's unreactable and then you look at the frame data and it's literally got 27 frames of startup and is usually done at full screen meaning if you don't 6p it you're asleep at the fucking wheel
vi has the same thing except it's 13f startup, safe on block, can be hid with an assist, can be charged while you have your other character run forward to cover it + then tag back to her after it hits, and more
she's the ultimate deluxe gorilla chimp champ
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>>550808430
>the humble vi when their neutral skip is jumped and punished for her entire healthbar + oki + tip
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>>550808750
*gets charge punch blocked* *lives because being minus in this game literally does not matter unless you're like minus 13 or more* *even if it did matter, simply calls assist and handshake tags*
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>>550808918
>actually blocking the charge punch
just jump it
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>>550808960
can still simply handshake tag?
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>>550811774
literally what should he have done here
jesus christ
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>>550811968
Braum has a projectile invul move and a full screen super that could have just blown me up, moving backwards wasn't going to help him either
I'm not very good and neither was he, it's mostly a shitpost vid, there's not many games where they're willing to stand still and let me shoot for 30 seconds
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good night tuko
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January patch will bring a golden era to the game.
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I wonder how many people are actually playing, it must be 1k+ right? Every lobby I enter is filled to the brim
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>>550811774
I also got called a pdfile for playing this team, so there are in fact league players playing this game
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What's the secret to do Illaoi's corner combo with four a lights??
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Clayton said Tokon is a more interesting game than Avatar
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>>550850680
this thread isn't about either of those games
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>>550823036
>Swain
Was it autism? (I don't have to ask for Talon.)
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>>550850680
>>550851740
I keep thinking "Tokon" is a cheeky name for 2XKO because the actual name is so cancerous and retarded to pronounce.
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But why wasn't it 3xko
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>>550855428
Because that makes slightly more sense and has more meaning behind it.
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>>550855428
imagine if this was a 3v3 game with an 11 character roster
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>>550849934

Got it. And it has an easy extension too.
Too bad Blitz assists sucks for combos now.
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>>550856727
Well?
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>>550856918
blitz's assist is better for restands and catching people
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>>550857503
Doesn't Darius get a better combo off throw in the corner than fireball into super, pretty sure he can get a medium 2h stuff
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I'm not playing this game until they add Viego
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>>550857754
yeah, but the timing after the throw is hard for me and i often drop it, so sometimes i just do that
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>>550857924
viego is actually going to be so dope when they add him because he'll 100% be able to use his opponent's ko'd character as an assist
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yup i'm thinking it's time for some tuko
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>>550863665
>yasuo
>yasuo
>yasuo
>ahri
>ahri
>ekko
>ahri
we need another placebo patch asap
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One more month until caitlyn changes the meta like teemo did
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>>550863665
Tuko? Tokon? Tukon?
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>>550866657
yeah by making the big slow fucks even more not viable than they already are
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Jinxbros we broke into the mainstream this year lfg
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>>550869518
thanks to Arcane and only Arcane, probably gonna drop hard over the next year
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>>550869518
Kill yourself.
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>>550241538
8.1 million views, 740 comments, yes, totally not viewbotted.
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>>550870062
like >>550457364 said, it's ran as ads on sites and other videos, thats why it has such absurdly large view count
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>>550869518
They didn't like this one
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>>550871948
(((They))) did though.
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>>550869919
>arcane s2 was this year
wow
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>ahri's hearts on fire can be cast full screen and recover in time to 2h any punish jump ins
>ahri's hearts on fire can OTG pick up off anything even if they were OTG for over a second and continue a combo for massive damage
what are these retard devs doing/thinking? jesus fucking christ
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new thread pls
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why are combo guides like this:
10 routes doing 10 more or less damage from the same starter, no stated reason to do any of them.
Can't they just be: max damage air throw starter, max damage corner, max damage midscreen, max with super and not bloat things up with unnecessary "that's possible bro" routes
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they were thinking "ahri is our most popular character who will always sell skins no matter what, so we need to make her incredibly strong and easy to play and forgiving as fuck"
she was literally high tier and then her playerbase cried until they buffed her for no fucking reason now she's top tier
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new thread



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