Stella Montis Medical EditionStichered: >>549816279A Cold Snap event (?) teased for the 16th:https://x.com/ARCRaidersGame/status/1998437491053834510>News & updateshttps://arcraiders.com/en/news/>Resources>Itemshttps://arcforge.org/>Skill Tree Builderhttps://arcskilltree.com/>Interactive Mapshttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map>Event Timershttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/event-timers>Key Card locationshttps://imgur.com/a/s9YtLXR
fuck nyaggers
Want to play ARCRaiders (fun)Don't want to go to work (not fun)
>keep materials used to craft and upgrade Stitcher and Ferro>sell everything else, don't even dismantleIs this our game plan, boys?
>>549993856The real depth of PvP is found in positioning. It is more often than not a bigger contributor to the kill than you simply outdamaging your opponent.Behold, my glorious mspaint diagram.You want to always be attempting to open fight from a "hang" (any kind of corner or wall you can third person your approaching enemy from). When you peek from a hang, you have a client interpolation advantage as great as the difference between you sending data to the server and them receiving it. it's around 60-100ms in best case scenarios;, but apparently this game has 5, yeah 5 WHOLE TICKS PER SECOND, so it can be player ms difference plus 200ms for the runescape-tier tickrate.You are trying to stack both your swing advantage and your enemy being the green zone of picrel. You will always find your most secure kills under that scenario, so you should always be trying to set it up, regardless of how aggressive your idiot teammates are.When your enemy is in their power position, you have a few options that you need to exercise; Be the first to swing to keep the advantage(dangerous in teams), Flank to deny their position and prevent being swung on, or back up into complex cover that will allow you to set up another hang on your enemy who has to push you to kill you.Understanding how to use complex cover to constantly force your enemy to approach you without info, or outposition them with a flank into a hang is how you can take down entire squads solo without util.
>>549996986Also here's my mine and barricade diagram just because this thread should have a better start to discussion than avatarfagging cats
>>549996986I'm a pacifist now so I can have wholesome chungus lobbies.
>>549996986Also another quick mention; The best pvpers will always swing either with a runslide (dodging back the opposite direction to their hang if they have no advantage), or "jigglepeek" by exposing themselves no more than exactly what they need to in order to fire. Using utility to break an enemy's power position is always advised, and a habit that you'll need to form to actually git gud.
>>549996986>server tickrate is only 5Are you joking? And I thought CoD was bad because they were still using like 16hz tickrate from 2007 when other fps games were up to like 128-200hz and this was back in 2019.
>>549997957from what I can tell that seems inaccurate
>>549997265It is a shame that the devs have an unsustainable vision for the game like this. Everyone should be learning some version of what I'm posting from day one, but there's a big segment of the population that will never incidentally git gud through experience. Most of this stuff becomes instinctual and doesn't require you studying or developing mnemonics.Really talented people pick 99% of good pvp habits up instinctively and fast; usually they're learning it at a point of maximum genetic neuroplasticity (IE they played a shooter in the 12-18y/o range endlessly), or they just have very high IQ.You'll get fucked by them while you're learning, but you absolutely will reach that level yourself with enough PvP time. The time it takes you to get to that level will vary with your age, IQ, and personality disorders that stop you self-criticizing.>>549997957You're right, there were rumours of it being 3-5hz from someone analyzing it early into release, but what i think we're actually dealing with after some more research is tickrate scaling down when servers are at max cap, and most people are saying it's flat 20tick when servers aren't overloaded. It's still fucking garbage at 20 or 30tick, that fact that 60-120 isn't the industry standard is mind boggling. We've gone backwards since tf2.
>>549982432NTA but yesalso ignoring when I'm on mic going>friendly>dude friendly>dude I am not hostile>hello? I am not shooting you>I am leaving you alone>you can loot do not worry>I just spawned and got here and will leave>can you not hear me?>I am friendly an will leave>downs me>"HEY WAIT BEFORE YOU KILL ME LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING">runs up like silent sociopath>"hello? do you not understand english?"kills me>kills me>check profile>its not in english
>>549998485Second part of reply was for >>549998212, It's pretty late where i am so i'm misfiring over here.
>>549996986>>549997120Commendable paint skills.Also quick question, how viable would picrel be? the idea is to angle 3 explosive mines to the button side of the door so they nuke the guy opening the door and an extra shock mine to cover for pushes while you setup somewhere else in the room.
Does anyone know how to bug out the supply call stations to send out a double flare from one for more trial score? Ive seen people do it
>>549997957it's not 5 but it's definitely low, server latency is also high. once you notice how long it takes people to drop dead after you mag dump them you never stop noticing
>>549998812That might be really good if they don't get accidentally triggered before the door opens wide enough. I give it a pass, you can name that one for yourself.
>>549998703want to be my gf? I'll protect you from all those big bad raiders who shoot you on sight
>>549999067He's a male of either european or brazilian descent.
>>549999067it wouldn't work out, I'm a guy
Why is it that every time I join a night raid with a key, there are only 20 minutes left on the clock so the room has already been looted? The game is just wasting my time now
>>549999124I'm a white american, its why I don't shoot back, I'm treating this as more than a gamealso I dont want to get put into bad girl matchmaking
>>549999475>trying to kill a bastian or bombadier >have wolfpacks so it should be easy>don't even particularly need the cells>its just a lot of arc shit at once>THREE TIMES>spawn in dam battlegounds 10 minutes late>get to the bombadier/bastion spawn on the bridge>nothing>croww the area between the broken damn>check>nothing>look at the time>10m left>rush BACK ACROSS the broken dam>to the last extract at water treatment facilityTHREE TIMES
>>549999891>crowwcross*
>>549996986All that work to say abuse corner peeking.
>>550000095There are a lot of people that don't even really know what the word peek means in relation to games.
just make a team deathmatch mode for the retardsProblem solved
>>549998812Lmao samefagging your drivel so you can feel good by sperging about a system the devs didn't put any thought into so you can feel justified roaming people trying to enjoy the game.
>>550000369you mean like this?this thing alone solved so many problems eith the pvp vs pve debate
>try to set up a minetrap>guy sets them all off with nothing happeningcool
>>550000448implying nyagger is as autistic as me is a pretty big insult. Take it back.
>>550000025This but>increase the pvp tkk and increase arc activity>WOW SO YOU HATE PVP AND WANT IT GONE? WOW GRT GOOS ITA ACTUALLY PEAK. HERES A BOOK REPORT ON WHY ITA GOOD. YOU NEED A HIGH IQ
I'm mainly friendly but I wonder why everyone seethes so hard over PvPers, adds some challenge and variety to the game
Where the H*CK are those keys? I thought that those police booth thingies in the middle of the road were the guard huts. But I've seen some screenshots online saying they found the key in some room that's built into a wall, and not a standalone booth like those.
>>550000638
>>550000787you lost your key? it just gives you one
>>550000919No, it doesn't. Some quest do, but some don't. This is one of the latter.First it only gives you the task of finding an armored car, then, when you do, the second objective pops up. When you take the quest it doesn't even mention the key.
>>550001010make sure to check your inventory, I remember doing that quest and getting killed, but I kept the key in my safe pocketbut I could just be dumb and somehow already had 1
>>550000734The fake narrative that we cant have options is why people are tired of the pvp babies. Adding PvP, PvE, expanding PvPvE modes, ect will add options and therefore players and lots of games have done this and its always successful. From MMOs to more traditional shooters or ARPGs, modes are good.You can take any game with options and everyone agrees that removing it would be stupid. But when you propose the opposite a small number of idiots always get scared "their" toy is being changed.
>>550000787If this is the last quest in the game (before stella montis quests were added) you can get the key from one of those small "stands" like where one would sell tickets from to the parking area. Like between (ish) the gas station and before you go underground theres a bunch of them on the road. I can't remember there being 2 individual quests to get into that car
>>550000787the toll booths are the guard huts, just check them all
>>550000787>>550001384Yea those booths are exactly what I meant I didn't really fully read your message before answering lmao. You can also find the same key without having the quest from random places such as dams ruby residence lockers/containers.
>>550001098>>550001384Nvm, found it. It's one of the booths OUTSIDE, at a checkpoint that goes across the road. Not the booths inside that go along the road in the middle.
>>550001595And then I promptly got ambushed by not one but TWO ratting faggots.
i only need 1 million, should i do it this weekend or save it for the cold snap? im kinda feeling burnt out and with the expedition so close, i feel no reason to play after i get 5 million if i am being honest.
>spawn close to assembly>People already pvping as i arrive>Kill 3 people>one of them is an americlap and starts voiping my position>Suddenly everyone fucking teams and i have another 3 people chasing me>Manage to knock one and get rushed down by the remaining two>knock one and the other oneclip kettles me through smokeThis is what i get for bringing in a fuckin' anvil and only 175 bullets for my stitcher. Anything not freekittable immediately gets targeted by brokies. It's like showing off a rolex in a neighborhood filled with blacks.
>>550001802Just do it only takes like 3-4 hours.
>find the trap and disable one battery on dam>leave before finding the second>now can't complete the quest
>>549995253You will never be a real extraction shooter. You have no chase, you have no progression, you have no thrill. You are a battle royale twisted by persistent loot and PvE into a crude mockery of Escape from Tarkov. All the praise you get is uninformed and half-hearted. Genre veterans are bored and unimpressed, "fans" play 2 hours a week and don't know any better.Power gamers are already done with you. Thousands of hours in other games have allowed nolifers to abuse bad design choices with incredible efficiency. Even aspects that “work" look half-assed and flawed to anyone who has played a videogame before. Your risk-reward structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a million normies to buy in, they'll turn tail and bolt the second you attempt to require some effort in order to try and give your game longevity.You will never last. You wrench out a shitty cosmetic every single week and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel irrelevance creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually the honeymoon will be over - casuals will move on to the next shiny thing, nolifers will get bored. Nexon will put you on life support, relieved that they no longer have to put actual money into the game's development. They’ll milk whoever's left with increasingly predatory MTX, and the fanboys will keep pretending this game is some sort of underrated gem, just like they do with The Finals. Your playerbase will decay and go to 10-20k, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably shit.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>550001937>the anvil is worth like 5k>":THATS BASICALLY 1% OF 1 MILLION">it's not>it's .1%I had someone kill me and sell my gun and brag about it when I asked why he killed me at the start of the roundThinking back on it now, he probably had that cheat that let you see other raiders inventory, because how can you say "I killed you because your gun is worth a lot and I sold it"
>>550002072You sure you can't? I think I was in a similar situation and I was able to complete the quest. It just took me for fucking ever to notice that one battery up on the cliff.
I'm in PVP hell finally
>having good run>Dude kettles me around a corner>Hmm that was suspiciously fast i wonder if...>Check profileYep
>simple gun parts>can't be crafted>unlike more advanced gun parts
ever since I shot that guy yesterday I'm getting assraped everywhere I gothank god for adrenaline shots
>>550003789you can find them on almost every hornet/wasp you kill
>>550003215>Yepyou knew it was spongebob?
>>550003792Go play with the browns, where you belongI'm still playing in my high trust chungus society
>>550003942every time oyu see a name with that geenral formating (738957198235151 or whatever) It's one of two things; a user that had their name force changed from TOS, or a chinese account that hasn't set up their steam profile. The latter are either bots or bought accounts boosters are using. They only comment on your profile when you pay for one of their services as a thankyou, or you're a servicer that needs an account to seem more legit.
>>550003792Your fault for using a light shield and even more of your fault for going through that dogshit area
I love my torrente, it has all my bullets in it.
>>550003789>make advanced >dismantle>simple gun parts
rubber pad
So daytime keyrooms are a waste of time?
>Can't speak or I wake roomates>teammates wanting to keep fighting when i'm beyond stacked after we kill 2 teams and have to leave>They don't get the picture so i start pinging everything in my inventory at a cadence where my guy announces everythingIDK why it's so funny to me hearing my guy say all of that shit.
>>550005024Not necessarily. If you want to target low to midrange blueprints they're one of the places you wanna hit.
Impossible!
how many gameplay hours should it take to get this 5M for expedition full reward?
There should be max 10 players in a single raid thoughts?
>>55000651830h if you become the biggest jew ever known
>>550006539I really don't mind the idea of "30 unique players per raid", I just wish the system stopped spawning them anywhere near a fight that already took place, and also with a timed cooldown. A team shouldn't be entering the raid 30s after a team died. It should be something like 3mins.
>>550006763so just doing one of the loot runs for trinkets, and keep swapping in stuff more valuable, with a blue loot augment? is there any more to it? and i guess pick fruit if it's lush?
This game is balanced :)
>>550006956no not even trinket runs, those are a luxuryliterally hose in any blue item, industrial chargers, power cords, damaged heat sinks, anything you can get your hands on
>>550007117righto, thanks mate
>>550007028Volcano chads, rise up!
>have 3 close friends that play>all 3 also have their own gaymer group of regulars>be gaymer dadfag and can't play much>When I do login, everybody is already 3/3 or 2/3 already>I'm usually left with the casual homie (who's utter shit at pvp) versus my other tryhard bros Game is fun, but this game reminded me I'm a 3rd wheel
>late spawn, 20 minutes>go and pick through trash and other players' sloppy leftovers>nobody, nothing, everything's quiet>aside from me finding a trapped room with mines and shooting them>walk out>dead bastion outside>completely pristine and not looted????Thanks, I guess.
Fucking finally.We'll only need to collect $5M again for the next expedition, right? No more humidifiers and 180k worth of guns, fruits and other shit, right?
Uhhh guys.... where are my wholesome chungus lobbies at...
>>550007992it's unironically more gruesome getting the 5 mil than just collecting a couple of trinkets
>>550007992lol
>>550008183ANYTHING you find contributes to 5 mil though. But this? Looted a whole inventory of purples? Nope, need some trinkets or fruits. Zero contribution otherwise.
>>550008173you have to pay your bad girl matchmaking toll first bro...be careful in those lobbies...
>>550008173hopefully nyaggers will calm down after the reset
>>550008297yeah but it's a lot more boring to just mindless go around collecting whatever junk you find instead of having a clear goal of what to collect
I might be able to pull it off. I started yesterday with 3m.
>>550008449I disagree. Both are going around collecting junk But in one case all the junk you find contributes, and in the other only some. And the latter puts you at a higher risk of getting killed too, while you're scouring the map trying to only pick up the trinkets. When doing blue crap runs you can extract after a few minutes of looting and make a full contribution towards the goal.Basically, the goal is not the items you pick up, but the progress you make when you return.
AAAAIIIIEEEEBUFF FREE LOADOUTS
>>550008813hello newfag
>>550008813free loadouts should spawn with a Looter Augment Mk3 and medium shield to emphasis lootingThey should also have a fully upgraded bobcat and bettina to make sure custom loadout raiders leave them alone to their looting!
Alright, time to do a bunch of naked runs until I'm back in carebear land, just because I dared defend myself against rusnigger aggression (and wonnered).
>>550009124pretty much
>>550009124I'm in carebear lobbies (EU) but still getting the occasional assholes. I got like 15 keys but I'm deathly afraid of using them without hatch keys, and I'm out of mats. I might need to spend 1-2 hours farming sensors/wires.
>>550009349meanwhile all I have left are stella montis shit keys
>when you down a guy and he screams that he's going to dox you and kill your family in real lifeof course the loot was bussin'
>>550009349>I might need to spend 1-2 hours farming sensors/wires.I'm probably autistic or retarded or something, but this is what I like about the game>oh fuck I'm really low on batteries>I will do a few "battery runs"etc for any material
>>550009349>carebear lobbies>EUXAXAXA))))
>game is actively putting people in carebear lobbies and pvp lobbies depending on how many kills they are gettingwow this is gay as fuck. uneasy friendship is the point of the genre there is no fun in knowing everyone is friendly or not friendly
>>550009410My humble collection. Many of these don't even have hatches nearby, but using them would help me farm the last 500k I need to 5m. No point in having them sit around, and I'm getting burnt out of Stella runs. That map is stressful as fuck, especially if you got that Assembly/Medical loot but no hatch key.
>>550009728you can't prove that's trueand even if it is it asks you a surveyand even then, it still matches up you PvP sociopath FREAKS in our friendly more cultured and sophisticated lobbies
>>550009728Carebear lobbies aren't 100% peaceful, though.
>>550009728I agreeThe tension is just completely gone. I play with no care in the world and I probably get shot by like 1 guy every 5 games or something
>>550009728>Oh no I can't easily shoot people in the back and have to suffer consequences for my actions>Money stolen!Oh I'm lauffin
>>550009728I think it might actually be based on a flat number of cheat reports but i have no info to back that up.
Got the perfect skin for a mute playstyle.
>>550009885>you can't prove that's truedevs confirmed in an interview yesterday that behaviour affects matchmaking
>Carry a teamfight >Bot forces me off a corpse that wasn't a freekit for the first time in ever>Console player on my team instantly scums the kill I'm so done with this shit happening in every fill squad.
>>550009728So just PvP like you wanted? What? Are you bad at the game?
>>550010396happens to me all the time too>get in a teamfight>i kill 2.5 guys and go down>fill teammates finish him off>they loot everyone before getting me up
Best server rack location for sensors farming?
Anyone notice how during a thunderstorm lightning strikes aim at raiders specifically. And if you just look around, you can probably pinpoint other players' location by observing where the lightning strikes?
>>550010396>kill a rocketeer>say "You can have the cell i-">he's already looting the main corpse>finish my sentence>"you can have the cell if you want it, but I want the other arc mats">doesn't say anything>completely looted the main corpse so it disappears>all thats left are thrusters>5 arc armor each>he's already silently extractingeven the carebares are turning into sociopaths
>>550010701assembly stella montis
>>550010647Playtest had an option 30s loot prio on a knock that you had majority damage on. I miss it.
>>550010767>>550010396>>550010647always concealed carry
>>550010916Nah there's too much traffic there, especially if people spawn there they would loot every container.
Miss me?
>>550011398I don't play shooters
>>550011294departure building spaceport
>>550011398The Finals is spastic garbage
does this make my daughter look cool?
>>550011398Same problem as arc. maintenance mode development from the very start of its lifecycle.
>>550011739yoooo dude generic white girl with the pigtails? never seen that one before
>>550012071don't make fun of my raider daughter
>>550005794>low to midrange blueprintsI don't remember getting a blueprint during daytime raids in the last 30-40 hours. Most I got were either nighttime or EMS runs. Some from surveyors but most from keyrooms or puzzle rooms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_pwnls0N1c
>>550011398>first personblehif I pay for skins I wanna see my character's ass in it
Is there a single map with 2 bastions now that hidden bunker is fucked? I cant find 2 anywhere
>>550007028>a hight-tier AR (tempest) does the same damage as a literally FREE SMG (kettle)>mag size and firerate is the same, slightly faster on the kettöebusted, straight up busted
>>550012381most maps have two bastions and they also respawn after a while. dam has one near the power complex and one to the right of the domes usually
>>550012249you can if you shit on people then taunt afterwards
>>550012405I've been tempted to buy the green mohawk but still saving my free bucks for cooler shit next season hopefully
>kettöe
>guy tries to exit camp me>waits until I push the button to start shooting at me>dodge out of the way of his second burst and then the elevator goes down so I escapeif I'd died I would have deserved it for trusting an elevator with a guy in it that had already sat there for a minute, but they aren't sending their best
>>550010743no shit sherlock, fucking midwits.Thats why they put down dummy lightning in random spots too, but yeah, you use that to see where an enemy might be.
>>550012187I remember seeing a lot of green-tier stuff like anvil and il toro bps, but that was back when you could jew your way through keydoors and loot was changed around then. could be different now.
There is skill based matchmaking (SBMM).There are 2 separate servers: the PvP server and the PvE server.If you kill a player, you will be automatically sent to the PvP server for 48 hours.Fact checkers on Reddit have confirmed this.The devs have announced that they will permanently remove PvP from the game in 2 more weeks.LGBT+ cosmetics will be introduced in the shop tomorrow.
>>549998812>>549998976Tried and tested, I like how it turned out.A better view is included because the devs are retarded.I'm not good at naming things but I've tried, filename related.
>>550013147patch days are tuesday so this is fake
>>550013207A work of art.
>>550012495I just did blue gate ems, only bastion was in the tunnel, didnt respawn after 20 minutes (checked before extracting), bombadier was at the raider bunker, bombadier outside the tunnels, leaper at the abandoned houses and above the tunnels. Only 1 bastion
>>550013363pretty sure you need to kill multiple of the large arc before they respawn one of them
When do we get the secret cute hairstyles?
They nerfed the free kits.You only get a hairpin now.WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!!!
The new snow map is amazing! Has anyone killed the Baron yet?
>>550013363could be wrong, but I think EMS has less arc around
>>550013672capfr?ong?
The new rocket launcher is complete ass.I don't care that it launches homing missiles.It can't even one-shot a Hornet.And why does it cost so much in the shop?!
>>550014489the what?
honestly just reduce the default stitcher mag by 5 and freekits are completely fine
>>550014958if they increase the capacity of the modded mags for the stitcher by 5, thats a great idea.
>>550014958free kits will never be fine. they need to be completely removed. pvp also needs to be removed from the game.
Season 2 is almost here! 8 more days! Get hyped!
>>550014551he means the green single homing missile mini wolfpack from temu and yes it's garbage
>>550015263if the leaks are true, then it's going to be viking themed.
>>550015314it kills surveyor in 3 hits
>>550015030They don't even need to do that. It's P4P the best gun in the game right now
>>550014489Agreed. The Freya is awful. The Seeker Grenades are much better.
>freenig complains that my venator killed him in 3 shots even though he was using a kettle>which has lower ttkreal skill issue hours
So I got round 800k stash value and 300k liquid, could I do the 5 m on time? Still need to do the lightbulbs for the caravan. Last 3 fukin stella runs I spawned late and got spawnkilled and with blooms some rat always gets the baskets before me. So whats the best strat?
I just died to some femboy furfagI feel great shame
>>550015608>ah yes this homing missile can hit this medium sized stationary spherical object therefore it is goodmeanwhile drones shrug it off
>>549998812>>550013207>>550013349A small update that was in the live test, the mines are placed on top of eachother to decrease the distance from mine to enemy. If the enemy is close enough they all activate simultaneously and physics jank propels them a bit further, otherwise they jump in sequence triggering eachother and exploding anyways, as in the vid.
>>550015826>still need lightbulbs>only on stage 3/6bruv you're gonna need to put your entire stash into the caravan just to get to DO the exepedition
If you manage to kill the Baron, it drops a Freya blueprint.
>killed as i go around the cornerfuck this game. im just done playing until the update, i got the 5m just fuck it
Guys... i think I found the trick to unlock chungus lobbies again. Stella Montis Night Raid back 2 back 2 back chungus lobbies z0mg
damn you always feel extra bad killing someone with a quest item on them
>>550016112post more leaks anon
>>550016112hello time travelerplease tell me they dont listen to shit tier reddit balance feedback like nerf freekits or increase ttk
>people are busy posting here>not at 5 mil>instead of farming loot
>Dumbass teammates push too confidently and die to a third and fourth party in med>spend the next 10 minutes slowly picking off members of each team one by one>TFW Sole survivor Felt amazing, all but two of them were freekits though.
>on stella>someone enters my key room looks me in the eye and starts looting after i told him to back off>kill him>"dude whyyyyyyyyyyy">2 more people come around the corner and down me then res himThese social justice raiders are super annoying
>>550015973Oh that's devious, I am absolutely pilfering that tech.
>>550016637Haha have fun in pvp hell now no more chungus funtime for you
>>550016493im not wasting like 20 hours of my life tryharding to get 2.5% faster crouching stamina regeneration next season. skill points are fucking useless
>>550016493I already have 5 milall I do in game is run around spamming HEY THERE and running up to people
>>550016828They are useful up to like 90 total skillpoints to get everything juicy, everything else is garbage though.
the freekits changed to hairpin only? why did they do this? it was fine the way it was!
>accidentally shot a player>get sent to the pvp server>be stuck in pvp hell for 48 hoursthis is bullshit. it was a fucking accident!
just gave a guy 300k in matsgave him a pink kit for more space in his inventoryhe sold that too
>>550017576Can't fix stupid.
>>550017750true, same guy who I ran into farming Great Mullen for stash value...and then said killing big arcs for money is too hard...I finally got him looting and extracting, but damn, does this game need a better tutorial or something?
>>550016637>NOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED HERE>WTF people don't obey me WTF!
>>550016637next time pretend to be the victim. also accuse him of being a racist or something. the SJWs love overusing the word WEIRD, so try that.
>>550016721Have fun.
>whoa dude the AI is super advanced and uses machine learning to develop strategies to counter player behavior and adapts over iterations to seek new strategiesTurns out it doesn't. It's just normal pathfinding and inverse kinematic legs. >whoa dude there's a matchmaking AI that detects if you are a hostile and places you with other hostiles over time. It's like a super advanced AI that uses machine learning to detect and analyze player behaviorYou get the idea. KOSnigs are the minority population so you only encounter them so often and i just appears as if some servers are friendly and some aren't.
>>549999575>I'm a white american, its why I don't shoot backLiberal you mean, Texans would totally shoot back.
>>550016108fuck it still gonna do it, just missing 2 lighbulbs, 3 humidifiers and 2 leaper units. Even If I get 0 skill points ill fucking do it. Getting put in pvp rat/camper fests cause I shoot back is a pain tho
>>550020269I got killed by JewFlayer the other day
>>550020269>just chia pet my shit up senpai
>>550009728>noooooo!>I want opponents who won't hunt me down or shoot back>let me in! LET ME IN!!!The wall just got two feet higher.
It's done
>>550018181I feel like you've been baiting in almost every thread the exact same way and barely anyone has ever bitten.What kind of disorder do you have to have to do something like that some repetitively?
My favorite incel pvp retard argument is "just bring 40k worth of traps to counter my $205 stitcher 1"
>>549998812>shoots your mines
>>550020979bro your smoke grenade every time you loot?
Is there any way to get an Augment in a raid? (without killing another playing)I'm playing this shit as a roguelite right now, having gone in with nothing trying to see how high tier I can get my gear without dying
>>550021148see >>550013207
>>550020979The funniest part about it is that it doesnt even workStitcher1 can murder anyone in one mag
>>550021271>playingplayer
>>550021302My mistake, very well done
>>550020720I'm at 4.6m. If I run my keys I should get 5m well before the 22nd. I'll never do this again though.
>>550021424you will do it again 33 times because you are goycattle thoughever
>>550001937>bringing an anvil>not a Ferro Ibad with money
>>550013207Would it be overkill to sprinkle a few wasp drivers or synthesized fuel cells around the area outside of the door to increase the explosive yield and radius of the kill zone?
>>550021205>bro your spending 2 minutes setting up defensive fortifications each time you want to open a locker on buried city then spending 2 minutes removing all the mines and walking to the next building
>>550021424I started at 800K because I haven't really been hoarding and just played with my friends to do trials or kill people.The most efficient method so far for me was looting either 1 of three specific rooms in Buried City in solos, because it's anywhere from 3-5 minutes to do regardless of where you spawn, you always have nearby extraction, and you need zero gear (freekits add about 3K worth to sell).I too will not be doing this again but not because it's tedious, because even with the 5 extra skillpoints I struggle to figure out where to put them because all of the skills that I don't already have are garbage. I'm doing this so I can fix up my skill tree a bit because there's no other way to reset.
>>550021424>yfw they release the tacticool skin as the reward for the next expedition
>>550021842>outside of the doorA bit too sus in my opinion, although your average joe is as dumb as a fucking brick so feel free to try.I would just add a 4th mine to kill heavy shields if you suspect that someone might wear it.
>>550008596you're fine deadline is 17th, and even then it's not the real deadline
>>550021842NTA but they can already hear mines inside, anything extra outside would take an even larger idiot to fall for it.
>>550022056Ironically I haven't been running the Buried City breach rooms at all since I began farming at 1.7m. I used to go there during night raids. I kinda just figured all the normies know about these places by now.
>>550021271I don't think so
>>550012209>chinks create the NIGGEST bunch of characters to PVP
>>550016637next time bring a barricade
If Cold Snap doesn't contain balance changes, I'm fully done with the game. Embark had great execution in many ways, but has so far shown to be bafflingly out of touch. Number tweaks are the easiest changes to make, so they have zero excuse.
>>550000787Those little toll booths are correct, theres a desk on one with a yellow quest interaction marker.Then just find an armored car with an unlockable door inside the giant underground tunnel. I found it deepish inside along the eastern wall, had to sneak past the bastion
>>550022258dang, I guess I have to hope I run into someone already dead with an augmentI managed to find a blue shield but I can't equip it :^(
>>550002495>>Thinking back on it now, he probably had that cheat that let you see other raiders inventory>see that post about anon removing his purple attachments and no longer getting KOS randomly>remove mine>no longer randomly killed for no reasonit's either the cheats and idiots thinking purple= valuable, or there is value-based match making and it's finetuned to the point it's considering your attachments
>>550022208Regardless of where you spawn there's going to be a good room within 150-300m which is almost just 1 full stamina bar. You're going to be first most of the time if you beeline it there without getting distracted by anything.1) Red lockers room in hospital, highly contested but if you make it there in time it's yours, if someone comes up at the same time you just split it with them.2) Pharmacy on the south end with the breach door.3) Breach door on the top floor of an unnamed building near Plaza Roma. Hard to say where it is specifically but find it once and remember.Loot in those is worth 20-30K with zero investment on your part. If you're lucky you're in and out of the game in 3 minutes.
>>550022682You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe Cold Snap is going to be anything beyond a snowy skin of the current maps, 3 new quests involving collecting some garbage and returning it (in one raid!) and another event battlepass with a bunch of consumables and some ugly cosmeticsI genuinely don't think they have any intention of touching the meta because they probably think "don't fix what ain't broke" as the game is still pulling 250k players
>>550001267Except... you can't. Making say, a pvp arena, would make that the de facto pvp mode. This would make every other mode the de facto non pvp modes (thus removing pvp from them, which you already conceded is a bad idea.) This would also fragment the player base. Niggers would still shit all over your street if allowed; they would ignore the pvp mode entirely. It would only appeal to a small percentage of players who are literally only in it for the love of the game. The only other way to attract players to that mode would be to give it special rewards and prizes to make it competitive, but then you would just complain that the devs are catering to pvp and forcing you to do it so you can have the cool prizes too. The games is a great sandbox, don't go turning it into a bunch of little cubicles. All the game needs is a modicum of depth and balance. If you need a perfectly curated gameplay experience with a bunch of different modes that cater to every unique play style, those games already exist. I don't play them, because they're made for children, but I believe they're called Fortnite and Roblox. I believe they offer literally everything you're asking for.
>>550022682>If
>>550001802There was no reason to play before the 5 million, that's why they added it in. We completed our expeditions too fast.
>>550023320>There was no reason to play before the 5 millionYes there was. To have fun. That was my primary motivation before embark decided the game was about grocery shopping cause they fundamentally do not understand incentive. I was using wolfpacks and purple guns and giving people cores and helping them take down arc and embark killed all of that with one fucking retarded decision
>>550003789>pvp rat outs himselfloot literally anything besides a corpse you nigger
>>550022890I got 3 hospital keys but I figure it's a shitshow over there.
>caerbear generalguess everyone else dropped the game and stopped posting here
>>550023706retard
>>550023802Nah I'm just burnt out after farming 800k in a single day.
>>550022187ITA, they can hear it but most people are expecting that the traps would be somewhere on the door's edge so they can somehow disarm it or at the very least leave without triggering it.Nobody expects that the traps would jump out of the room into your face.
>>550023791Hospital is crowded, but I genuinely think keys suck giant ass and are not worth running at all. At best you'd get x2 the amount of a freekit breach room run with more time spent hoping you don't get interrupted or shot. Actually, most of then keys will be negative value over time spent because you can't decide on where you spawn so you'd have to haul ass most of the time.
>>550009728I have a strange feeling that your accent might be swarthy.
>running up on an extract about to open>yell HEY>hear the guy go "I prefer to extract alone"what an autist
>>550010301post it with a timestamp
>>550024692people shoot in the back at eztract
>>550024692>spawn into Stella Chungus>im a bit late so I just sorta mosey around>bump into another raider>”hey buddy I got a hatch key if you wana leave and arent still goopin”>yeah Im still goopin thanks though and good luck out there>you too raider!such is life in high trust societies
>>550024810Yeah but does he really think someone who would shoot him in the back would care if he asked to extract on his own?
>>550024934possiblyI'm sure I talked my way out of being killed many times because I will use my mic and killing someone you just talked to is a lot hardhence the silent sociopath memesome people need to turn moc and voice off so they don't feel bad for shooting people not fighting back and going>friendly
>>550013147>LGBT+ cosmetics will be introduced in the shop tomorrowso we can see the expedition skin too?
I used too think that the more the raid went on the safer it got. I was wrong unfortunately. Used to use that time to explore the map. Super dangerous to stay late these days. Its when the real weirdos are lurking about to kill someone they think has loot. It gets really creepy. Talking to people on mic and they just stare at you is creepy af
>>550025196probably this, the lizard print looks nice actually.
>>550025323I want the cosmetic too, but Ive grinded for cosmetics in so many games and then never worn them
>>550023802We've gone over this. The "pvpchads" are just sociopath griefers and that's all this is game is for. I'm just doing stella trios these days because solo on big maps is just hell on earth for everyone else
What did you guys do for the survival items part of stage 5 of the exp? Just make bandages?
>>550025671I just turned in the spare blue bandages and vita shots I had laying around (I had a lot).
I have found the il toro blueprint 3 times today, and nothing else
>>550025671pretty much. I also turned in all the blue stuff i was totally going to use one day
>>550025861I have seen a single blueprint in 5 days.
Surely there's a balance patch coming tuesday
>>550025323nah it is that ugly purple sweater skinbecause it was literally called patchwork in the beta raider deck (which included the preorder g suit)
>>550025515After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.
not my biggesy run but probably my most profitable at over 20k per min
>>550026961it's the PURSUIT of happiness that people like and get rewarded fornot just magically receiving happinesslike how rich and famous people cry about being depressed still
>>550026921arent they on vacation
>>550027549They said that the snow patch is a big one and they'go on vacation afterAtleast that's my headcanon
>>550027232whats ur tacticand what do u even do with the money?
>>550025671bandages and augments.
how do people have the energy to re-make kits and upgrades everytimeit's so boring, no wonder people spam freeload outs
>>550028101I've adapted to really minimal stuff, just a ferro, kit, shield, and ammo and healing itemsbut I'm also friendly and haven't run into someone shooting me in probably like 30 matches
>>550021424>>550020720yep its really gay.>all right i can finally play the game.>next wipe>lol be sure to save up for 10 gorillion coins this time.
>retards willingly stressing and burning themselves out over 5 whole skill points
>>550028432also>people saying the need 5 skill points>started the game this month>or this weekit's supposed to be a 2 month grind
>>550028424If Im able to do this one I dont plan on doing it again. I dont have many bps or upgraded benches so its actually kind of worth it to me. I just want to flex I did the first Exp. Dumping everything into the Exp is definitely helpful for managing stash space tho too
>>550028625seriouslyI got there by just casually>gathering all blue>heading to extract or helping someone kill arc and letting them loot it>recycle what I need>sell what I dont>5mil announement>3.5mil in bank>1mil in stash>keep playing casually>4.7 in bank>800k in stashand that's after I gave a buddy I met 300k of bastion/bombadier/leaper cells and whatever valuables I had
>>550028059Thanks. Im also noticing that Im having a hard time filling the weapon one. Is it dumb to buy guns to donate? I know I’ll have to spend money, but it will help me get the stage done faster so I can just move onto just straight up lootmaxxing
imagine all the clueless uncs and timmies who will be hit with the 5m goal on the 17th and will only have 5 days to grind it
>>550028101Here's a wild idea: make a couple of each item you need and you won't need to craft every time you die
>>550029204can't wait for the seethe>>550029219as if anyone has stash space for that
>>550029439you will, after 20 expeditiond
>>550028101>I cant engage in long term thinkingThe 5 skill points are useless right now, but will not be useless in a year once that 5 turns into 30. You have to ask yourself if you can see the devs reasonably buffing the perk trees, and if you can, the value of the extra skill points becomes evident. Eventually some gamers will have all 3 branches maxed out and if they address how weak the green skills are that eventual extra 60 skill points becomes huge
I knew it would put me in pvp lobbies after I killed someoneI fucking knew it
>>550029575>but will not be useless in a year once that 5 turns into 30game will be dead by then >You have to ask yourself if you can see the devs reasonably buffing the perk treesno>the value of the extra skill points becomes evidentnot reallyThe devs will obviously make everything "more accessible" so the dadgamers who play for 10 seconds a week don't feel left out.
>>550027965>stella solo>Looter I, Light Shield>Kettle I, Ferro I>half stack of ammo each unless you find more>no heals but what you find>key in pocket if you bring one>rush the sweet spots in Assembly, Medical or LobbyThat 1:59 was just stella assembly coming in from a western spawn hitting the right spots while others were being slow and then hitting the hatch in assembly.On solo if you use a mic and communicate you can mostly get around unscathed by just communicating you have not hostile intentions and calling out those that start blasting. Being a no mic means you can't defend yourself when the other guy says you started it.Also knowing the layout helps a bunch, my loot paths in assembly and Lobby are pretty optimized but I gotta figure out medical cuz it's less organized.
>>550029575thisat least for me, I am planning on playing this game for a long time and will happily grind whateverI will eventually max out my skill trees, stop at a cool expedition number like 69, and then worry about blueprintsand by that time they'll probably have some system in place to stop blueprint trading
>>549957035this is how self defense works in sweden btw so it makes sense>OK BUT YOU DIDNT HAVE TO KILL HIM HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT HE INTENDED TO DO WITH YOU WHEN YOU WERE ASSAULTED AND BARELY HAD TIME TO SAVE YOURSELF IN YOUR OWN HOME?
>>550028101I agree with you because even when I have all the resources the whole asspain of putting up a proper kit every time is navigating 999 menus remembering what you need and putting it all together to potentially be lost in 5 minutes is ultra gay. Dark and Darker eventually implemented a loadout system which just let's you stash out 3 kits premade that you can just equip at will, it's not even the best solution to this but it's leagues better spending several minutes while being salty at dying trying to put together a similar kit to just go again.
>>550029891lmao true>shoot someone in self defense>MY GOODNESS>YOU SHOT THIS POOR MAN LOOKING FOR A LITTLE FOOD YOU INSANE RAPIST PEDOPHILE MONSTER
>Stella trios>matched with a black guy named 9DaGod>Starts acting like self-appointed captain >Throws a synth fuel at a door a guy was breaching the other side of >Yells "ay shoot da shi" >I do>His placement was way off and the guy never even came close to the obvious synth fuel>"Man fuck ya'll niggas" >Jumps off the balcony and stumbles on the ground and gets lit up by a team >"Yo these niggas trippin" Not a single line of this is fabrication. It was like a /pol/ greentext in real life
>>550029439>as if anyone has stash space for thatAs I've been selling shit from my stash since the expedition is coming, I've realized that a lot of things you hoard you don't actually need. I'm sitting at ~200 stash used and have plenty of room to craft multiple loadouts. Just let things go that you aren't using, because you'll always find them again.
>>550009528>"Get cancer!"Was the worst I heard.Then looted an Osprey blueprint from the guy.Captcha: AHDH2
>>550030150this it's not like you have 50 snaphooksand if you're some smartass that does then you have the blueprint
>>550028101i have 1600 hours in tarkov, i'm just used to it being worse. I'm just glad that I can get into a match again without waiting 10 minutes in queue for some chink cheater on his 5200 rpm hard drive and ryzen 1 cpu
>>550029152For weapons do a mix of looting security breaches, weapon crates, and crafting assorted explosives.
>>550029810You're assuming this tho. They might try to legitimately appeal to the tarkov audience at any point. Remains to be seen. I'm just saying the 5 skill points arent useless but it's a gamble
>Even the ultimate dadgamer reddit streamer thinks the expedition is retardedhttps://youtube.com/shorts/O-jg00eRNzw?si=6CShuvi15vnZ44r7
>Don't shoot!>Hello friend!>Want to extract?
>>550030470this is just saying you don't have 5 million for the expedition without saying itonce you have 5 million why can't you use your good gear>my good gear contributes to my 5 millionmaybe grind more retard?
>>550030470Congrats on having the take anons in this general immediately figured out within 5 minutes of the 5 million points being announced The incentive switched 180 from using bobcats to selling bobcats and their response to that was to go on vacation
>>550030748
>>550028625>it's supposed to be a 2 month grindThen we should probably have been informed of the requirement 2 months agoWe didnt, so it's effectively a 2 weeks grind
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>>550030748this>aw man>I can't use my 12k snaphook>or my 2k bandages>or my 3k worth of grenades>that would put me at 4,983,000 >theres no way I can earn that back and not die in the same match
So, there's voice changer options, but are there raider voice options for emotes? Or is there only one voice for female and one for the male?
>>550031386you cant say male and female chuddy you need to say type a and type bwoke trash game
>>550030470I still haven't seen why the expedition project shouldn't be the entirety of the grind. Keep it fucking simple. If you complete the expedition and wipe your account, then you receive ALL of the expedition rewards. This is the best possible course of action for this.
>>550030470reminder this guy said it should be an outrageous number of 3 millfuck streamers. he doesn't know shit.
>>550031746>>550030470>the number is irrelevent but its actually relevant dude what the fuck
>>550031547Cause they are game devs and just giving the player something rather than putting it behind an obstacle doesnt naturally occur to them. The job is just creating obstacles. That's what games are.
is 5mil and the expedition two separate things?im confused
>>550031386your raiders voice is determined by the face model
>>550031980not really, if embark wanted the players to have fun, they should have made the raw sale value of pink weapons, and their components, and any weapon in general really cheap, so players would be more inclined to use them.Valuables/sellables should be even MORE valuable, and that should be where you get 90% of the X million credits from. The weapons should be a means to that end, not the end itself.TL;DR he's right, make the weapons worthless credit-wise, and the valuable 5x more expensive.
>>550031547they'll probably change it to exp or "total money brought back" eventually
>>550032280I thought that might be the case, but I chose an old man face, and he sounds really young.
>>550032263The 5 mil is an additional extra grind on top of the expedition if you want the 5 skill points.
>>550030470
>>550032401thishow are people so retarded>oh fuck I have to grind the 5 mil for the expeditionno you don't dumbass
>>550032280>change to the black guy voice>it's not male voice lineswtf it works>>550032386yea it seems like there is only one voice per gender ingame
>>550031980>but its actually relevant dudeeven if it was 500k, while easy to grind, its still retarded in principle because an extraction shooter should be about using gear you find, not hording it and selling off the most valuable thing just for it to get wiped anyways
>>550032524The extra skill points are the main point of the expedition, so they basically fucking do. It's a plebbit take to say>It's OPTIONAL. You don't NEED to.You're just getting cucked if you're wiping your progress without receiving all of the wipe incentives
>>550032524people like you keep saying that but you're still wrong
>>550032283he flip flopped anon. he suggested a number now hes sayin the number isn't relevant when he realized how people are responding to it.it absolutely has to do with the number in this regard.now all of a sudden we want to revamp the fucking economy so it feels less shit? am i being gaslit by a bunch of retards?
it's optional therefore exempt from criticism
>>550032524>no you don't dumbassI want 5 skill points.The only way to get them is to grind.There is no other way to get the five skill points.>BUT YOU DONT NEED TO ONLY IF YOU WANT 5 SKILL POINTSOkay I want 5 skill points, the grind is still bad and retarded game design.
>>550032280>>550032661>>change to the black guy face>>it's now male voice lines*fuck my typing>>550032707>>550032790then wait for the next expedition it's optional you morons
>>550032686It should be ZERO. Did you finish the expedition and wipe your account? Good. Here's ALL of the wipe incentive. Full stop. No extra fine print. No gotchas. No jewish tricks. Just:>Did you wipe your account?>Yes? Ok, here's all of the wipe incentives.
>>550032707>dont want to die to a rat? just dontthats how i hear it with those kinda takes
The pvptards are getting mad againmaybe spend more time looting instead of shooting other raiders and getting put in hostile lobbies
>>550032830Hate that retarded take so much
>>550032849>imagine being so dumb as to think 5+0 is equal to 10
>>550032849>then wait even more braindead take as that reduces total 10 to total 5
>>550032524uh oh, retard alert
>>550030470He's not wrong. Creating a system that asks the player to hoard their shit for money is what is the problem with the expedition, not the number
>>550033004>>550033007>>550033069there is no way you are sticking around
>yo this pvp is lit
>>550033240>barrel disappears the moment you shoot at it ONCEnice pvp system niggers
>>550033190The new value is 5 trillion per skill point. It's just optional. You don't need to do it.
>>550033150yeah he says that now after the feedback when he originally was one of the retards that suggested it should be a stash total number of 3 mill in the first place
>>550033315ok, I won't complain and will grind 1-2 points per expedition
>>550032826incorrect, he IS correct, he just didn't incorporate my idea.If all you need to look for to progress towards any X number of millions of credits, where valuable-specific drops, players would feel free to go hog-wild with combat gear and could be reckless. You can't craft valuables as it stands right now, im not sure that embark thought this through, hopefully its a different system next time around.
How many more days before the masses who don't keep up with current events learn about the 5M number? I need to get my popcorn ready.
>>5500337274 more days
>>550033727I think the 17th
>>550033705i understand anon im just hung up on the fact hes a streamer who acts like he knows how balance and systems work and im realizing hes just like the rest who doesn't really actually fuckin think about shit when /arg/ came up with reasons why it was shit ina matter of minutes
>>550033190If you say so boss.My staying probably depends on the pvp niggers i partied with early on who do not intend to wipe
>>550033392If he was lead designer on the game, he could at least see the feedback and adjust. We don't even know if the swedes will do anything about the expedition let alone balance, maps, freekits.....and so on and on.
>>550033763>>550033798The review bombing will be glorious.
>>550033915I'm convinced that the swedes have been on extra double secret vacation since the game launched. Sans maybe a handful of interns.
>>550029909>Dark and DarkerIs it any good? I'd love to play a game where I can buff/heal teammates, but I've read mixed opinions about that game, so not sure if it's worth checking out.
>>550033705dont know why but they shouldn't have made crafting be a net negative. it would have been fun figuring out what to actually scrounge up, to craft things yourself, on benches you upgraded yourself, to make moneyimagine if we could craft something stupid like makeshift paper ducks and being able to sell it for a profit for situations like this
>>550034162it's entirely pvp focused so no, not really
>>550034163hey hey you know how tarkov solved this problem of people figuring out the most profitable crafts to spam and make billions of rubles?you might not like the answer...
>>550034163no it wouldn't>calculate the most effective materials to farm>the top 15-20 materials are now always farmed>so are the "bottom 5" materials from people thinking they are smart>in fact just forget about looting ANYTHING>collect everything>leave the match>craft it all>repeat
Guns shouldn't be sellable and should have their own separate economy. You should only want a gun because of its value in combat and no other reason. Gear fear is huge with this game and you rarely if ever see the higher end guns. It was a problem before the 5 mil grind which made it 100x worse
have they added a toggle aim option yet?
>>550034625EVERY craft is profitable in tarkovhow do they manage it?there is a huge, crucial step missing in your flowchartand personally, I do not want it anywhere near this game
>>550034808many gaming mice have that as an in-built option you setup outside of the game.
>>550035323they still refuse to add three lines of code, gotcha
I have fertilizer. I have some crude explosives. Let's go to the hospital.
>>550034217ehhh he could play healslut
>>550034625why the fuck would making money be a bad idea ON A GAME LIKE THIS WITH LIMITED STORE PURCHASESEXPLAIN IT TO MEWHY WOULD MAKIN MONEY BE BAD ON THIS PARTICULAR GAME?THIS ISN'T FUCKING TARKOV. STOP BRINGING UP TARKOV>>550034318
[Muffled Eye Of The Tiger plays from gamer headset]
>load in with nothing>acquire matriarch reactorheh, nothin personnel custom loadouts
>>550002885Yeah I found both of those batteries on the surface. Am I supposed to use an arc battery on it or something? I found the one on the hill first and exfil with a squad, then went back on my own to finish the mission and ran around it several minutes and thought someone got there to do it before me but its otherwise frozen.
>>550036223>Smoke grenade bpTfw I haven't found one in 223 hours of gameplay.
>>550036480you can have it if you're not planning to do the expeditionotherwise it'd kind of be a waste
>>550034804>Gear fear is huge with this game and you rarely if ever see the higher end guns. ItA huge part of this problem is that most of the strongest guns are the Grey ones, and marginally weaker versions of them are litterally free as part of welfare kits.
>just go into a match with your legendary gun so I can steal itnah
>>550035392you can cry about it, or you can seek out an already-existing solution. I've yet to see a game that does what you want at all, outside of a sniper-focus specific sensitivity option.
>>550034163The fix is to make recycling less efficient. You can craft up to increase value, but you can't work backwards to create an infinite value loop.
>>550035572because the solution to this problem already exists and it's implemented in tarkov since years ago and you can easily see the consequences of this solution
>>550036770inb4>scared????
>>550036879The warframe crafting timers? Nta, but I never got upset by the bake times.
Every type of "salvaging" and "crafting" is about repurposing materials to create things you need for yourself, or about freeing up stash space. This is as it SHOULD be.Crafting for value means adding more MENU GAMES when you should be playing the ACTUAL game. Every game that encourages you to spend lots of time in menus maximizing value on this or that SUCKS. You are fucking RETARDS to ask for this and I'm glad you have no say in the matter!
>>550036879solution to what problem?can we talk about arc raiders without vague bullshit referencing?
>>550037012the timers ensure you cannot hoard 5000 crafting ingredients to do a single craft and make millions infinitely
>>550037174it's simpleinstead of making looting mk2 be a net negative profit when compared to 2 electrical components and 3 magnetsjust make it take 12h to craft
>>550037275oh yeah im down with timers honestly. do it with free load outs while were at it as well
>>550036229>bothThere's three.One on the cliff across the road, one in the ruins nearby, and one further down the slope.You interact with all three, then go back to the central antenna thingy.
>>550033240It really makes me wonder why people defend it so vehemently.
I am at 2.5m I will grind the rest of it by killing arc of any kind and selling its parts
>>550038285crazy they dont consider the idea of balancing it like its supposed to be like tarkov when its never going to be tarkovjust because you die in a second in tarkov doesn't mean the game has to follow that same bullshit.
>>550037149yea as soon as I saw most stuff recycled/crafted for less it clicked for me>oh they obviously want you playing the game>this is just a way to get materials you need not to make any profitand thought it was good game design since the price isn't that big if a deal
Why are the queue time on blue gate with one mate so fucking long? Game already dying?
>>550040092yep yep
The patch on tuesday will fix everything
wouldn't it be funny if when embark goes on vacation haha the game is dead when they come back hahah
>>550034963Ditto. Tarkov is only alive because of the streaners and Russian/Chinese hoards playing it as their day job for RMT.>He didn't pay a bit extra several years ago for a gamma container and not having to grind extra hours every wipe for more stash or rep5 million is just ensurance based on history. Rebalanced skills may make it worth it in 2 years. If the game isn't swallowed by China or Korea like PubG which is just money laundering now.
>>550036596Thanks anon, but I'm gonna do it.
Is anybody here doing the Exp, but not grinding to 5 mil for the skill points?
>bring a really good loadout in hopes to kill the queen with others>load in see other players fighting it>they get gunned down by free kit fags before i can help them>kill them>shit, well we might as well wait for other playe->get shot in the back by other free kit fags>lose my hullcracker, renegade 4, 2 wolfpacks and 5 c4What's even the fucking point in doing this shit?
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>>550040092Dunno, it's my favorite map.
>>550041264Embark thinks this is fine :)
>>550041432but this shit happens in every single other extraction shooterwhy is it suddenly not ok?
>>550041264Reddit will tell you that its just part of the game
>>550041264>What's even the fucking point in doing this shit?To enrich freenigger CoD fags who would never do PvE.
>>550041589other extraction shooters had some foresight and thought ahead. Embark dusted their hands off and kicked their feet up for their 2 month vacation.
>>550041589no other extraction shooter has this kind of emphasis on PvE contentthere is not a single extraction shooter with massive Monster Hunter-esque bosses that requires the whole lobby to coordinate
>>550041924this
>>550041264Honestly I've found the best, easiest, and most consistent ways to get queen kills is to play a support/anti pvp build. Forget about killing the queen entirely and just keep the pvers alive. I run a stitcher and osprey and immediately hunt down and assassinate the freegos and keep 10 defibs, bandages, shields, and utility items on me to keep the actual human beings playing the game going. If you're running around clearly calling out who is pvping also gives the players heads up on who is shooting at them. All the items I mentioned are easily bought or crafted.The only time I fail at a matriarch kill and getting some loot is if I somehow fuck up and die on the way there.
>>550041924I see so many complaints about 3rd partying I havent even bothered with it. Especially not now that everyone is deperate for cash. Why loot when I can just get a freeloadout and shoot someone in the back who is fighting the queen? I die? Oh well load back in with a freekit.
>>550042771Pretty much. I load into Queen or Matriarch to hopefully snag some good loot while everyone's either trying to kill them or kill the guys trying to kill them.
AIIEEEEE I GOT PASSED
Only luck I'm having is stella trios and getting a good enough team to survive the 2 team wipes necessary to loot medical. You get out with 60-70k if you know the spots, but you frequently get the third worlders that nomic off to die to a shredder then spam for assistance
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1plv8qc/is_anyone_else_getting_longer_queue_times/game is dyingripip
>>550044606forgot to say I'm trans btw, not sure if that matters
>>550044701you are beautiful and valid sister thank you for sharingi noticed queue times are longer too but it's days before a major patch drops so that's not surprising at all
>>550044701thanks for letting us know anon, not sure what that has to do with my link or arc raiders dying though :)
There is no way in hell the Cold Snap patch is going to fix even 90% of the balance issues this game has. Freekits wont get nerfed or spawned later, non-grey gear will continue to be pointless, and there won't be any new mechanisms that let you spend the useless currency to get a blueprint. Autocrafting or saved loadouts wont be implemented. It will just be a nightraid but with the possibility of finding the rare deadline BP. Then all of Embark goes skiing until late Feburary.
>>550044915It's not going to change anything. It's just a """content""" update
>>550044915pretty sure most people, most people here, and even you will come back to the game on new content drop, not a balance patchsomething tells me no balance patch would ever satisfy you
doomniggers tongue my anus
>>550045320nta but I'll definitely play more varied loadouts if they do a balance patch, but I'd be playing regardless as you said
>>550038829or try this >>550027232>>550029843
>>550045024We dont know what it will be beyond a new deck, the snow condition, and a new skin for the store. I'm not optimistic either but there's the benefit of the doubt. >>550045320I think everyone is universally in agreement that the viability of freekits kills a large portion of the incentive to do anything with good gear.
>>550045491yes but most people quit because they ran out of content to dohell this game needs 2 month long wipes to remain fresh, when tarkov has 6 month to 1 year long wipes
>>550044606>check reddit>wall glitches still not fixedlmao
>can hear precisely when the latespawns happen because of all the gunfire around the edge of the mapwaow
>>550042529You seem a saint anon.
>>550045670yeah, how many times have they said they've fixed shit only for the shit to still break
>>550045908that's not something that happens with ex dice devs, the ones who made bf4 and bf1, this is something that only happens with modern dice
>>550045983
>>550021271You can't equip an aug even if you found one.
WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE MEXICANS IN THIS GAME AND WHY DO THEY ALWAYS TRY TO BACKSTAB YOUTHE SECOND I HEAR YOUR ACCENT, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SHOOT ME WHEN MY BACK IS TURNED. I HAVE THE TORO 4 SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU
>>550045983>>550046216Pvp """"chad"""" showing off his well earned kills. (He hid like a bitch and fired into a person while they were looting or using the console)
>>550046349but I can extract with it and equip it in the lobby
>>550034163Crafting shouldn't be a net negative simply by virtue of requiring a blueprint. No manufactured object in existence is worth only its materials.
Literally spent 5:00 into matchmaking, still no game.Dead game, it's over.
>>550046216
>>550033000great holy mother of digits...
>>550046974>ospreyThis is a rare instance of extract camper on extract camper violence
>>550047118He shot me from the side while I was killing the second guy. I guess he got impatient or he was just retarded
>>550046705To be fair, he has nothing else to do since he can't afford the expedition.
>>550047118>rare instanceIt's extremely common on night raids. it always comes down to who waits the longest and who has the best hiding spot
This weekend is shaping up to be the worst since launch.
>>550046771>being cast that far into the Shadow RealmYou are a pox, and the server knows it.
>>550047562lol, lmao
>>550045983Post pics of your stella raids
>>550047898no one cares about your kills big sis
>>550048102I don't play stella
>>550048146Lol,lmao
>>550047898Strange how that value hasn't changed since the last time you posted it. Is this the new chadshill hand screenshot for coping brownoids?
>>550047623I've stopped fucking with night raids for this exact reason. I dont need to feature in some crusty incel's extract camping compilation because i didnt check behind the 19th tree surrounding the elevator. I'll get back into the normal flow of things once they add a factions mode and these permavirgins avoid it like the plague due to being marked as KOS
>>550047898I believe this
which warehouse in Spaceport is the one with the key area?
>>550047645Matchmaking times are the longest Ive seen. Waited a few minutes then said fuck it. Havent even played today.
>>550048450They're just crabs in the bucket, anon. Some people resent their betters, and actively seek to undermine them. It's an, "If I can't have it, nobody can," mentality. Ask yourself why murderhobo anon felt compelled to steal the screenshot of another anon's le ebin stash? It's just simple, classic envy.
>>550049467The keys have descriptions, and you have a map. Can you read?
>>550049467just use a map that's linked in OP
FUCKINGhad to kill another freenigger because he panicked when I opened a doornow I'm banished to brazil again
>>550050040I'll respond to you since you aren't a retarded frogposter
Kek! You may be a nigger, but you ain't broke.
>entire night raid is just stitcher bursts followed by flares for 20 minutes
>>550050223I re-read the map and realized I had a blind moment, sorry
>>550050476>this image proves something
>>550046537for me it's arabs and french
>>550046537Because people couldnt keep the fact that the NA server is chill to themself
>>550051734read as normalfags
>>550051619
This counts as avatarfagging, right?
>There are cheaters that are just watching you at render distance grow your inventory value before racing you to an extractRemember to always have a hatch key and take a random detour with stims to full sprint to exfil.
>>550052015Sadly it never gets moderated on /vg/. /wowg/ is a fucking cesspool of avatarfagging and posting cropped/censored porn but that shit stays
>>550052015No one gets banned for avatarfagging these days
>>550052015Pajeet jannies will only request ban people noticing pajeets
>>550025313It's because late spawns come in and are desperate for loot.
To all the raiders that play friendly. How often do you actually get shot? For me it’s pretty infrequent. Maybe once every 10 raids or so. Sometimes its because Im being careless, sometimes I can tell it’s coming because the other person is being creepy. Either way I just load back into the chungus realm like nothing happened and its back to normal. I play NA pc crossplay off. Im considering putting crossplay back on tho, maybe it will be better for matchmaking times. Ive also noticed that if Im freekitting Im more likely to run into micless players.
I'm at 4.84m. The last stretch is gonna be rough.
>>550053338Anon, you need big fucking data for that. That anecdotal evidence worth nothing.
>>550046537Sometimes the mexican accent trying to kill you is actually just me doing a bit
>>550046537Their religion is to worship a woman and celebrate death. Before that it was to sacrifice children to imaginary animals.
>>550053521Im merely asking a question and describing my experience. Since the dev recently said that aggression is factored into matchmaking its become more of a discussed topic.
yeah I've definitely been sent into the pvp queueeveryone is fighting everyone else herethis battle went on for like 5 min with 2 extract campers taking pot shots at people trying to extract and me helping them up to try to fight back
>>550053338I'm in the EU chungus realm. It's been like 10-15 raids without getting shot. I haven't shot anyone at all today I think, and I played like 6 hours. I'm at 4.84m so at this point I just wanna get it done with, so I'm tempted to PvP but then I know I'll fucking hate my lobbies. I do wonder if you get penalized in the MM if you don't knock someone down though.
>>550052135If you don't hatch key you deserve to die
>>550054113Ive been playing since a few days after launch and Ive never been in a server like that
>>550052587bonus XP past lvl75 is fucking useless in this game
>>550052354Nobody gets banned for anything anymore except openly posting NSFW. It's astounding to me that people actually complain about how banhappy mods are when this website feels almost entirely unmoderated these days. I can only imagine what utter dogshit they must post.
>>550032386>>550032280my old guy makes female noises when of breath or climbing shit. I have the male build too. I hate this forced tranny DEI slop.
>>550054113How sure are you of this queue thing?
>>550054743pretty certainuntil now I never heard many raider flares go offbut after killing a bunch of people in succession now I hear flares go off even after 30s of spawning in
>>550054690I wish I had that image of an address of one of the mods that gets you banned when you post it, that shit is funny everytime
>>550054743It came to me in a dream.
>>550054690I was literally banned before for shitting on Expedition 33 and the jeet shills that were spamming it. The following threads were full of schizo pol shit about the occult and the team being lead by nepo babies or something that bribed their way into ubisoft then stole talent into the E33 team.
>>550054662Imagine if overflow carried over to the next season
>>550054690Complaining about the mod sanctioned korean slop shills or the AIspammers gets you a ban on /a/
how do I check my progress for the 5 million?setting my system date to 17th just gives me an online services currently unavailable error
>>550054383Whats your strat just running Stella? Friendly Stella is awesome.
>>550029575hard to invest in long term thinking or planning in a game where we have only got one tiny little balance patch and it was for >wall exploits>a slight OP weapon nerf that's still OP>a nerf to a pve gun
>>550053338NA, PC, crossplay off, friendly. I don't get shot that much, but sometimes it's multiple rounds in a row if it does happen. If it happens it's usually at night as well.
>>550048450night and EMS raids should always have one hatch open. I don't care where it is but it needs to have one. It's fucking retarded.
>>550055960It has to be 2 or it will be way too easy to camp
>>550054849Turning off crossplay and running in with almost nothing so I'll see how it compares to yesterday's kos extract camping lol
>no blueprints in nearly a week>got a dozen over 1-2 days and then nothingTruly interesting
Reasons why wipes and expeditions in Tarkov are better than in this game.1. Wipes are mandatory, prestige (expeditions) are optional. nobody can escape the wipe, everyone is playing on a timer.2. Prestige can be done any time you meet the requirements, you can do it 10 times, each time earning you cosmetics and starting skills3. the requirements for prestige are quite challenging, including finishing some absolutely psychotic quests like shooter born in heaven, the guide, psycho sniper, etc... and getting 20 million rubles4. wipes are usually on a 6 month cycle, not 2 months, prestige can usually be achieved by good players in 2 weeks or so5. prestige also wipes all your progress like a wipe would, so it keeps the player population healthy, as unemployed neets have a way to wipe before the season ends.
>>550055876BasedI almost exclusively play at night so that likely impacts my experience
>>550056510dadgamers and casuals playing extraction games aren't ready to admit that global wipes are mandatory for the genre
>find some processors>oops, can't use them, too expensive>find some advanced weapon parts>stitcher doesn't need them>find some arc circuitry>nope, can't craft anything with those>find a purple gun>don't even get me started on that one
>>550039915Then you're smarter than me because I only just figured it out today while trying to articulate why I thought those suggestions sounded retarded
>>550056637>global wipes are mandatory for the genreOnly when the loot actually matters. And then "playing the wipe" from day 1 becomes mandatory. It's a shitty system that only works for guys who game this genre full-time, and pushes away all the casuals
>>550037149>streamer makes one vid about multiplying value for energy ammo>now its probably an RMT item for sale by chinese farmersNeeds a nerf asap.
>>550057079>>550039915fuckin tarkov brained retards tryin to project the same principles to the dad gaming casual extraction shooter with unlimited free kits holy fuck you the same type of retards that think you're pvp experts because you shoot naked blueprint runners
>>550057338no, the reason tarkov switched from "we wipe during beta because adding new content requires a reset" to "this is now a seasonal game" was because loot became meaningless after a while
>>550056510>tarkov>betteropinion discarded. tarkov is dogshit made by an incompetent team. 10 years later the game is still unfinished
>>550057630>10 years later the game is still unfinishedEvery game I've ever played was unfinished. Name a finished game. You can't.
>>550057775>moving goalpoststhey had TEN YEARS to wrap up the key game systems and content, and there are still things missing with bugs galore. Arc raiders shits all over tarkov in terms of fun and game polish, and it wasn't even supposed to be an extraction shooter
>>550057338The alternative is not wiping and having everyone quit out of boredom just to hope that some casuals faggots come back every now and then.This game is in a terrible spot progression and as you said loot wise, so I would unfortunately also agree with you that it currently doesn't matter, but it should.The sad part is that they could just have three employees looking over the balance for a week and have it all fixed. But they won't.>fix the stitcher>fix the venator>buff shields to increase the TTK>buff pinks a bit and outright switch the durability burn of gray and pink gearpresto, game is fixed
>>550055697Assembly or Medical have the best loot, but are also highly contested. If I don't spawn in either I just loot whatever.
>>550057630Being unable to refute anything he says and just dismissing the possibility that a game you dislike or a game that might even be objectively worse also does some things better shows your true colors as a retard.
>>550045491>I think everyone is universally in agreement that the viability of freekits kills a large portion of the incentive to do anything with good gear.Within the context of these threads I think most agree with that. But I don't think that the drooling masses have figured that out yet. A lot of normal fags who haven't tried using rarer gear still assume that the rarer gear is actually great.
>>550059507>But I don't think that the drooling masses have figured that out yet.This is correct. I lurk the subreddit every now and then and also youtube stuff and they actually believe that, for example, the Bobcat of any tier beats a Stitcher. They will unironically suggest that you "lost because you're using a green shield instead of a pink one". I see this nearly every day even though these people should be exposed to others calling them wrong ad nauseum but they never learn.
Soon...
>>550058601fair point but ARC raiders doesn't disrespect its playerbase, unlike tarkov. I've had the misfortune of trying tarkov a few times and I cannot imagine giving that game any of my time.
>walk into water treatment on dam with key>wow there's a lot of corpses here and 2 jolt mines>slowly move through the building>get killed by someone inside the wallDoes embark reimburse for wall glitching?
>freekits ending up being a live example about welfare's effect on stifling growth and inhibiting a community>basic needs met, no need for more or to become competition
>>550060176>Does embark reimburse for wall glitching?Yes, if they get enough reports, and it takes a week or longer usually
Is there any point to doing quests this late before the wipe?
>>550061232Just learning them for next wipe and selling the rewards for the 5 mil
>>550060269theres a lot of things you can learn about society playin this shit and it's chef's kiss when it's a lot of degenerate youths, niggers and third worlders doing all the KOS niggery
Solo EMS & Night raids>everyone in loot hotspots is friendly and civil>people just grinding for loot to sell>some even exchange blueprints>extracts are always chillVERSUSSolo Daytime raids>freekitters ruining everyone's day>PvP is rampant since everyone is paranoid near loot zones>you're lucky to not get exit camped at elevator extractsI wish there was a Karma system in place, I really do.
>>550061886My daytimes were so friendly and uncontested, until youtuber made>DAYTIME RAIDS ARENT POPULAR>YOU CAN LOOT THEREand every pvpfag going>oh fuck I killed this many people and hit 1 million>I need to kill 5x as many people
>>550062153Based pvpchads.
>>550061581Not to mention NA server is known as the best.
I keep getting into fights where I am unloading entire mags into people and not putting them down. I'm not sure how easy it is to tell what shield they have. But there are tons of times I am in CQC unloading every single round into people and hitting them with 90+% of the rounds and they don't go down. Yet I seem to get shot and downed in half the bullets all the time. Like it will be 1v1, both have stitchers, I shoot first hitting every round, don't kill them then get knocked myself. I really don't get it. Maybe they're hitting more headshots? It doesn't seem like they are.It's like some of my bullets just don't count?
>>550061886Karma system would be great for the game. But you would need some way to "instantly" see their karma. How? I'm not sure, but if you have bad karma because you're a KOS shitter, how would anyone know when you can just say "yeah man I'm nice :^)" Karma system; or, it should be like The Division where you need to "go rogue" to do PVP. As it stands, you can PVP at any/all times and the strongest attack you have is an opening salvo to break their shields before they even decide to fight back. Nearly all PVP engagements are caused by backstabs or shooting-first to break shields and get a massively easy clean up kill. If you had to activate a PVP tool/item/whatever to engage in the PVP, it would be better. Could come with a trade like "when engaged in PVP status you find 10% better loot" or some shit.
Who else /wholesomechungus/ here
>>550062324Based chungus servers
>>550064269hey raider
>>549995253Finally, a month and a half into the game's lifetime those reddit dipshits had the idea to test shotgun spreads and found out that Toro is literally better than Vulcano. I wonder how long it's gonna be before they compare headshot TTK between Tempest and Stitcher and realize that all of the pink guns are the worst in the game.
>>550064269>when you hit a "hey raider" in Stella and everyone within earshot sends one back
The blue gate confiscation room is terriblewhy is the key epic?all I got was a burletta
>>550065254Very underwhelming considering it's a little bit dangerous to go there and the key's supposed to be epic. I got an Osprey and some assorted bullshit going there on a night raid. Pointless.
>>550065168BasedHowve night raids been for you?
While a karma system would be nice, I think this discussion has shifted into the wrong direction. The ARC Raiders has pivoted to the extraction shooter genre at some point in its development. It's a PvPvE genre, so PvP is fine. It's a balance issue.Since it's an extraction shooter, and not just a regular competitive deathmatch FPS, there's also persistent player inventory, loot, crafting item rarity, etc. But as it stands now, freekitters are juts as much as effective in PvP as a fully kitted player with a loadout worth half a million. In this kind of game, that has not just gunplay, but also economy, investment should play a much more significant role.If I'm using top tier combat aug with a heavy shield and a fully upgraded Vulcano, and I get attacked by a freeshitter using a Stitcher 1, I should be able to just turn around and blast his face. Inb4 "b-b-but he had a tactical advantage, you should pay the price". And I will, by expending healing items and repair equipment later. A raider with an expensive loadout should meet their match against a raider who made a similar investment in their loadout.Bringing high tier gear on a raid with you should act as insurance, which would protect you against faggots who want to get everything, but aren't willing to risk anything. But currently it's the other way around, and bringing expensive stuff gives you no benefits, only risks. It's honestly amazing how the Swedes don't understand something so simple, and managed to design the game backwards.
>infiltrate the wholesome chungus lobbies to grief people into making them do things that sends them to the shadowrealm lobbies
>>550065453Mostly chill but you never know. Most games do have a rat somewhere, I just usually don't run into him. Sometimes you get lucky and hear the raider flares going up at the exfil in time to go to the other exfil instead. I agree with the Reddit poster who suggested that they probably mix a couple bad apples into the chungus games on purpose.
>>550030608Kek
>>550065836Actually I don't think it was reddit it might have been a youtube comment. Anyway "some guy on the internet somewhere said this and all I remember is it wasn't here"
>>550065560the severe lack of pve is allowing the pvp to show its glaring issues that need to be addressed before moving forwardthe lack of robot danger is allowing freekits to be moving way too freely. shredders take a lot of effort and resources on a free kit as a good example of this. every other robot can either be killed easily or avoided.high risk zones have literally like a turret and poppers as their danger. its fuckin pathetic.the damage you take from arc seems fair but the damage you take from other raiders is astoundingly fucking retarded
>>550066045It's too exploitable, I've crouch-walked directly under every flying enemy in the game. At a certain point they become usable as guard dogs
>>550065560>t's a PvPvE genre, so PvP is fineOnly sociopaths say this
Thank you to the people suggesting the hairpin its pretty fun
>>550066519this but realpvp is fine if you're actively going and killing peoplebut only in that vacuum space where you are simply going around, killing people who are not on that same playing fieldpeople pvping seriously cant say its fuckin fine while they are gettin third person peeked out and deleted because they aren't expecting that because their lobbies are full of people tryin to play the other part of the game.
>>550065560Still surprised when I see some confidently stupid shit on here and don't find it on reddit when I search. This website truly has changed. A karma system would be completely retarded and misses the point of the game. Gear should matter more but the notion that you should be a tank and autowin fights against poorly geared players no matter how badly you misplay is similarly retarded. You guys can talk shit on the swedes all you want, and I do personally think this game is overrated, but Arc Raiders would have been stillborn if any of you morons were in charge of it.
>>550065560>>550067845thispvp IS finebut not in the context of killing people standing there going "friendly" in solos and not shooting back because fuck getting put in the bad girl matchmaking
>>550067881>ITS NOT LIKE TARKOV FUCK YOU
>>550066045arcs need to act more like zombies. the moment you kill one, you're going to be swarmed unless you used a silencer or instantly killed with a high-damage anti-arc weapon.if you fight with a ferro you should basically die unless you're unbelievably lucky
>>550068048i still think more ttk is needed. the pvp would be a lot more dynamic instead of 20 stitcher bullets and you're back to the lobby
>>550066519oh great, the tranny is back. everyone is a "sociopath" except for you, right? take your meds.
>>550068048>because fuck getting put in the bad girl matchmakingThe idea that people are letting themselves get killed, and then crying that other people don't stop shooting them when they ask nicely, because they're terrified of losing their social credit score that's not even confirmed to exist is hilarious. Anons on this website are a step away from looking up their horoscopes to decide whether or not they should queue. Getting genuinely convinced the vidya boards are full of actual women with the way people behave.
>>550068513Take YOUR meds schizo, not everyone is your bogeyman for using a common word in this games community
>>550068739now the tranny is seething
>>550068737I did it guys, I'm finally a women for being friendly to other people in a videogame
The plan to de-aggro my match making is to walk naked around the maps until i get KOSed then respond with a :( to the survey after
>>550069041it worked for me, idk about the walking or whatever, but after the survey I started getting good lobbies again
>>550068895>he socializes and uses proximinity chat
>>550068837>>550069192I guess the EU sociopaths woke up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6znOfvhKu0
Stella is the friendliest place to go these daysNearly every time I go through someone drops me a blueprint - always something I already have, but I accept it with thanks emote
>>550069285keep seething, tranny. we all hate you.
How would the matchmaking differentiate between me being aggressive and me shooting a person defensively that just hasn't shot yet? Like if a guy is crawling across a rooftop and takes aim at me and I see it and ferro him first, does the AI think I started the fight?
>>550069460crazy projection
>>550069524this guy is still seething? someone get this tranny his meds!
>>550069507>How would the matchmaking differentiate between me being aggressive and me shooting a person defensively that just hasn't shot yet?it doesn'tyou get put in bad girl matchmaking for defending yourselflike in real life sweden
>>550069507If you kill a "killer" then the number of killers in the world remains the same
>>550068185THIS
if pvp was fun I wouldn't mind getting into fights. as things are now I'll try to get away from you and if you kill me you can have my stuff
>>550070339yea I just don't fight, I'm not looking for one so I automatically lose because I'll say I'm friendly and won't shoot first
>>550070339Its usually optional and unnecessary amongst other things. The people who do it creep me out desu
>>550070339its a weird dichotomyit's just way too easy to kill someone with no repercussions.if you're doing pretty much 90% of the other part of the game, you're just actively punished for iteverything is loud as fuck, robots are just roaming roomba alarm clocks, animations are red dead redemption 2 levels of fuckin slow and deliberate and you combine all this just to play the game, you are just FUCKED if someone decides to just sit there and watch you without you know around a corner, line up, and open up on you like a stealthed rogue thats going to 3 shot you while you're stunlocked.its fuckin absurd. id love pvp more if pvp damage was toned a bit more. stitcher 20 bullets boom you're fucking dead.
>>550070339Trios pvp is really fun and generally balanced since pvp is expected. Solo """"pvp"""" is just dying to someone you didn't see cause you refuse to run nvidia filters. Or getting shot from a bush. Or getting shot while you're looting. Or getting shot from a roof. I think solos needs forced factions cause as of right now it's just a sociopath grief simulator. If you wanna kill people in solos the game should force you to look like this so I know exactly what your intentions are.The only people opposed to this are the freaks that want continued defenseless easy kills to feel their incel egos.
>>550071060it's not weird it's intendedkilling players is much easier than killing arcs using shit weaponsthis is to make killing players unsatisfying and so that you do it only if you really need to do so
>>550071187nice bait
>>550071145yeah ok but now imagine a game like tarkov where solos get matched against squads and you watch some streamer win 1v5 fights as a solo vs squadsand THAT being the bare minimum the community considers to be skilled
Schizos actually think that there's a hidden karma system in the game.PATHETIC
>>550064269>had 0 kills on my acount>play with friends>its now more than 1I'm stained.
>>550071187I'm sorry but bullshit. The devs are just retarded. It's that simple. There's a teeming subhuman filth that has found this game over the past two months and are relishing in how easy it is to be a dickhead. The game is like designed around making it easy to be a dickhead. It will spawn you for free with a ferro and a shock mine which is all you need to camp extract effectively
>>550071714i've been KOS players non-stop for weeks. why am i still being sent to friendly games?
>>550071665>BUT BUT TARKOVif you can bring up tarkov then i can bring up fornite
>>550071145Nailed itI cant complain though, because I know its part of the tension and its not a common occurrence in the chungus realm. Dont agree with the costume idea.
>arc raider general stop mentioning tarkov challenge>impossible
>>550071714Cope
>>550071832yes they want pvp to only be done if you want go be a dickhead, not for material gain, not for loot, not for anythingevery design decision screams thatthey want to relegate pvp to be the subhuman activityyou do it to be a dickhead to othersit's easy, unsatisfying, rewards almost no loot, and if you do it you no longer get matched with people who dont pvp
>>550071873you being there is by design or the system only works sometimes. I wouldn't put either past the swedes
>>550072080Unironically this. Its so obvious
>mentally ill trannies pretend to be a psychologist>tries to diagnose strangers on the internetthis is peak autism
>>550071898the tension being only players is the fucked partwe have to litter the areas with shredders if we want any tension. there would be the same amount of tension for pvp if we had more ttk. the people liking it right now are the people who alleviate tension by just blowing anyone tieing their shoes away. seems like game design is just thrown the fuck out for this game and people have to keep mentioning fuckin tarkov
>>550072029battlefield general stop mentioning 2142 challengegirls frontline genera stop mentioning pnc, gf1 or reverse collapse challengepoe general stop mentioning poe 1 challengeshadowverse general stop mentioning shadowverse 1xcom general stop mentioning ufo defenseetcthere's a reason why people keep mentioning other games in a generalit's because they are better than the dumpster fire people in that general are currently playing and consooming
>>550072080>it's easy, unsatisfying, rewards almost no loot, and if you do it you no longer get matched with people who dont pvpthis is where your argument i know just falls fuckin flat if you base it on that lmfao>dey want you to be a faggotlets just forget they slapped on pvp with no thought. shields and stitchers screams no fuckin way they had shit in mind of any sort of balance when puttin this onquit defending their shit poor choices because you got used to it
Can we get a non-tranny lobby going?I want an invite.
>>550071898The costume idea fixes the whole thing.In normal shooter games, the game makes a visual distinction between your teammates and the people you should shoot. It's a cosmetic difference. Either there's a red outline around them, or they dont have a name over their head, or something, but you always know who your targets should be. In this game, every single player is allowed to wear whatever costume they want, and in solos, there is no visual distinction between players that don't want to shoot you and players that really do. The guy who wants you shoot you has an informational advantage over you as he knows his intentions and you dont. That is the crux of the issue and as of right now being able to camouflage themselves as normal players is allowing dickheads to effortlessly get free kills and be a cunt. If, in order to shoot normal raiders in solo you had to dress your character like an apocalyptic warlord and communicate visually that you are a "bad guy", it fixes the imbalance of communication and allows both sides to be on equal footing. Again, any argument against a system like this is PURELY because you want to continue being a wolf in sheeps clothes to prey on free easy kills. It's a game for incels as it stands.
>>550072593Its called the chungus realm
>>550072485All those reference games in their own series though. Hmm noooticing.
>>550072642Im not a pvper. Embark wants the player to not know friend from foe. Thats the whole point, its where the tension comes from. They just need to adjust the ttk and address the other balance issues.
>>550072920That's a great idea in concept. In reality it's just a gun in the train who says "I'm friendly" then shotguns you at the console. Epic gamer moment. Really felt the tension. Well designed and not just a game for faggot incels like you
>>550072642again let's take tarkovyou cannot distinguish a pmc, ai scav or player scav at a glanceyou must shoot anything that resembles a humanit's meant go be this wayyou should not be able fo quickly identify friend from foe from visuals alone, you need go observe behavior and communicate
>>550072996They can add some kind of shock device like wasps have to the trains. It makes since we know from the tutorial there are cameras. Makes no sense for a raider to murder people right there then go back to Speranza like nothing happened.
wow who knew the numbers would go down because like real life, they let violent retards go around killing innocent white men and let them out of prison because it creates "diversity" aka tensionman i imagine real life would be so boring if i didn't have to make sure i didn't get mugged by a nigger in an alley, right guys?fuckin dumb retards in this thread. the game was more fun for the community with wholesome chungus and now the pvpers just gonna push everyone out, get bored and the game will die out lettin it keep going this route
>>550073085>again let's take tarkovhow about you take a fuckin bullet dude
>>550072829ok then rimworld general stop mentioning dwarf fortresszomboid general (on vm) stop mentioning cataclysmhearthstone general stop mentioning magic or yugiohffxiv general stop mentioning wowetcetcI'm not gonna run out of examples
>>550073085>you must shoot anything that resembles a humanAgain, the fucking game actively works against this WHEN THEY ADD FUCKING ROBOTS AND HAVE A FUCKING BUTTON THAT SAYS "WANNA TEAM UP?"The game is designed around like 12 fucking things, but the only system that its catering to right now is being a dickhead cause it's the one that requires zero fucking investment. No investment in gear, time, or anything. Just run freekits and kill people when they are engaging with the other 11 systems. Do you understand or are you still dumb?
>>550071714if there's a karma system, then why are PvE trannies always complaining about PvP in the game?
stop saying t*rkov
>>550072642>In normal shooter gamesYeah, and this isn't a normal shooter. That's the point. That's why it's doing well. This game would fail if it tried to compete with games dedicated to either PvP or PvE. You're a complete retard and Arc Raiders would have been dead in the water if your dumbass was directing it. Remember that whenever you complain about the swedes. You are dumber and have worse ideas than the hacks in charge of this game.
>>550073502It's doing well because idiots, like myself, were suckered in by the premise and after 100 hours in the game I can see very clearly the issues that are now driving me away from it. Being a dickhead is the lowest barrier to entry. Every other system has a higher barrier to entry. That's why YOU like it because you're spiritually muslim.
>why don't they just [retarded pvp suggestion]because the game isn't pvp>UM ACTUALLY ITS PVPVE SO IT PVPyea I guess in trios>NOOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO KILL CAREEARS I SOLOS WITHOUT THEM CALLING ME A SOCIOPATHok socipath
>>550068335its 17 body shots
>>550073689Yes, the premise is why everybody picked it up and you want to destroy that premise and what made it sound interesting. You also liked it enough to spend a hundred hours in it and your stupid ass took that long to even notice the flaws. Something that would have happened a lot quicker if your awful ideas were put in place.
>>550073861oh no, the sociopath tranny is back... AGAIN
>>550074170baited
It's a lifechanging moment in this game when you save someone from a hornet only to have them unload an anvil into you. Like I can see the fat brown fingers clutching the controller and the tub of cheeseballs from sams club spilled all over the big lots couch crystal clear in my mind
>>550074249Hes the dumbest ITT. Here everyday.
>>550074153What I'm suggesting doesnt destroy the "premise" retard it unlocks it. The premise is being held back by the retarded shit embark has decided to favor. No one is bothering with the boss robots now. No one does queen or matriarch unless its to quickly take it out with a deadline and loot it before the level 1 stitcher shows up and unloads into your back. The game is actually being stifled by retards like you and once the novelty wears off and the majority of the playerbase catches up to where I am, you'll see the fatigue set in. Mark my fucking words
>>550073502You faggots argue like people are suggesting they remove pvp all together with your responses.Just putting yourselves as kosnigger ratting faggots
I want to kill a bombardier4 times I have started buried city, got a late spawn, not found it on the parking garage, then extracted
>>550074904If it's not there it's likely at either the park by town hall or the old city. There's like 3 areas it can be at.
>>550073921which doesn't change much considering how fast that freekit gun fires
4.5m btwI'm done with solos and the bullshit that entails. I'm just doing freekit trios until this shit is over. If I die and lose my loot I'd rather it be because we lost a fight fair and square than just getting kettle 4'd by some faggot hiding above a doorway
>>550065836>I agree with the Reddit poster who suggested that they probably mix a couple bad apples into the chungus games on purpose.I think that it's simply a KDR based matchmaker and not a behavior based one. The bad-apples in the chungus games are mostly just really bad aggressors with a failure rate so high that they only get kills when they suckerpunch a friendly player who had no desire to even shoot back.
>>550055697>>550058525you forgot lobby checkpoint stairwell area
>>550075708>ask someone why they killed me at the start of a match>"it happened to me 5 times in a row"you might be onto something
>>550075708that makes sense. someone tried to kill me with a ferro yesterday but they kept missing
>>550069507>How would the matchmaking differentiate between me being aggressive and me shooting a person defensively that just hasn't shot yet?I don't think it does. I think it just goes off kill to death ratio. The friendly players mostly won't be the aggressor outside of some edge cases like defending a key room that they're looting. The atrocious PvP balance placing so much value on shooting first will create a trend of friendly players losing most of their fights and KOSniggers winning most of theirs. From a big picture perspective that will send the friendly players down in matchmaking towards the "friendly" lobbies and the aggressive players up into brazil. It's not a hard and fast rule. A competent player might successfully defend himself and get sent into a more aggressive lobby as a result. His odds of success go up if the opponent is an incompetent thirdie who is playing with atrocious ping since he's trying to prey on the NA servers and their reputation for being easy marks.
>>550074604Wow, people will get fatigued after spending a hundred hours in a decent at best game excelling because of it's novelty, shocking. Your ideas would just make it even worse by making player interactions, which is the strongest aspect of this game, completely cut and dry. Most people are not binary PvE or PvP like you idiots seem to think. They switch it up as their gut tells them even mid-match. Again, you're a dumb nigger just like >>550074664 and this game wouldn't have broken a six digit playercount if either of you had your way. This is one of the dumbest generals I've ever been in and people like you are why. And there's not even really a point in me trying to argue with you because you're so stubbornly confident that you're not a moron and that your ideas are at all worthwhile instead of literally game ruining.
We should prosecute tech companies that sell graphics cards to third world nations
It's a PvE game with PvP as an afterthought because playtesters (retards) said it wasn't fun enough without it
>>550074604>No one is bothering with the boss robots now. No one does queen or matriarch unless its to quickly take it out with a deadline and loot it before the level 1 stitcher shows up and unloads into your back.This is legit a problem. Not being able to engage with pve content pve players want to play. Some sort of change is going to be made by Embark and anyone is an idiot if they think Embark will just let players leave the game if they can prevent. Its still the first season for fucks sake.
>act like a villain >act like a defensive whiny little bitch when some treats you like a villain Why are “pvp” players like this?
>>550076749The PvE in this game would need a complete overhaul to be fun to anybody who isn't a retard without the threat of other players. It's a complete cakewalk and spamming more Arc can only do so much to fix that before it just gets annoying.
>>550076765Factions fixes the whole thing. If you see an edgelord with metal spikes on his clothes, shoot him. Problem solved. You've just added another enemy to the game and you never get the incel betrayals.That player (that allegedly wants pvp) gets way more pvp. The "good players" can rally together which opens up PVE. The whole dynamic is fixed. Make it so good players cant harm each other like trios teammates and make it so "evil players" have some perk exclusive to them. Those players want to dress like edgelords anyways. That's why they all use the shiesty outfit. Just make it mandatory and release like 5 or so "evil skins" that you can only wear when you're playing the bad guys. I fail to see how this doesnt fit seamlessly into an extraction shooter. Only people that would have an issue with it are the people that want to pretend to be good guys to get close enough to toro you in the back and fuck those guys
>>550076591people like the pvpthey dont like the ratting and how accessible it isits that simpleif you are against it, we know why you stand by it. stupid nigger
>>550077268The fact that flying AI isnt drawn to a flare flying into the sky is weird
>>550077268ill take 5 wasps over an annoying kos nigger
>>550076591>making player interactions, which is the strongest aspect of this game, completely cut and dry. Most people are not binary PvE or PvP like you idiots seem to thinkYou're referencing something that doesnt exist in the current meta. Current meta is some silent faggot shows up and fires into you without warning and extremely limited counterplay due to TTK issues. You're a fucking retard and most likely a KOS rat nigger. Kill yourself immediately
>>550077531>we know why you stand by itYou don't know shit. You're just seething and coming up with stupid ideas on how to 'fix' the thing upsetting you with no actual thought put into the ramifications of that change, like little kids do when they're mad, and you cry at anybody who points out the flaws in what you want and assume they must be whatever you're against.>>550077895Same for you.Come to think of it, I wonder what the average age in this general is. Surely you're not adults.
>>550078109the guy who wants to keep the problem around for some crazy abstract reason(pvp ratting gay niggery) is definitely the dude to listen to around game design and balance on a multiplayer game that has longetivityi'm noticing you are offering no solution to it so it's very fucking telling that your dumb deluded ass can't infer anyone else having figuring your bullshit out intuitively.say it with me KOSDOGSHITNIGGERfaggot
>>550078363How old are you?
how am I supposed to use minesdo I need like 3 explosive mines to kill someone, everytime they just set them off and it feels like nothing happens
>>550078495>i have no argument >i have been found out>ill start gettin personal nowi accept your concession
>>550078570Jolt mine is the only "useful" mine, the rest are way too situational or useless. Explosive mines take 3 to kill a light shield or 4 to kill anyone else
>>550066045Yeah I know people like to make comparisons to Tarkov but the better comparison IMO is to a comparably chill looter-shooter which was Call of Duty's DMZ mode, and the hard areas in that actually had properly difficult AI enemies and it felt good. You had to be properly equipped to go there and get the good loot, and you could fail. Right now it feels like the only loot guarded by any of the Arc in this game is the loot inside their own bodies. They need to turn up the PvE difficulty a LOT. There need to be some enemy types that are much more difficult to hide from.>>550066519Not him but I'd say PvP is "fine" in the sense that allowing it to happen is fine, and in fact necessary for this game to be what it is. The players who do it may "deserve punishment" and yet if the devs were to step in and punish those players (which they surely could) this would ruin the game for everyone.>>550066909I like running Ferro I + Hairpin I, because I don't want to be stuck using the Hairpin against hornets or the Ferro against pops
>>550077268I seriously wouldn't mind i it was PvE only, tons of arcs, and arcs are harderalmost like a Robot Monster Hunter Extraction Shooter if that makes sensethat's how I play it now
>>550078823>Explosive mines take 3 to kill a light shield or 4 to kill anyone elseomfg
>>550078109You seem to have a problem with wanting to wear your intentions on your clothing and I'm curious as to why that is? Why would you hypothetically want to pretend to be a good guy???>>550078883>The players who do it may "deserve punishment" and yet if the devs were to step in and punish those players (which they surely could) this would ruin the game for everyone.I dont have a problem with PVP or shooting me or anything like that. I have a problem that the easiest mechanic to spam in the game is freekits. You risk nothing and get a license to be a complete dickbag and the game doesnt even have the decency to make you look different from me so I can know this. I have to treat you as if you are the guy with purple guns who is going to kill the bastion. Neither of you use the mic until I've killed you and the game suffers as a result for all three of us.
>>550079225>and the game doesnt even have the decency to make you look different from meIn general the inability to get any info from looking at someone is one of the biggest problems with this game. And the culprit, as always, is paid cosmetics.
>>550079341Hence why I think factions is necessary. They can create default "evil" skins then sell additional evil cosmetics. You could even sell "freekit" cosmetics that were like clown outfits and shit. It even makes them more money. It's so obvious.
>>550077575to be fair, the bots seem to be mostly blind and deaf. I've gone entire raids without them seeing me once while barely trying to hide
>>550079225Factions are dumb in extraction shooters. The whole tension of an extraction shooter comes from not knowing. You want to solve the issue of getting camped but having a big shoot me sign when the majority of the time you die is because someone is nut-hugging a wall and opens fire as soon as you go to loot a downed arc.It is a combination of multiple issues, the spawning, the freekits, the OP'ness of grey weapons, the weakness of the better gear. Slapping on a big shoot me sign on pvpers wont make any of that go away when the guy is hiding in a bush regardless and downs you in 0.5 seconds with a stitcher.
>>550078738I've explained why the idea was stupid and nobody refuted my post, you especially, except to cry about getting ratted and the other guy seething as he insists that everybody's KoS anyway. Both of you assuming how I must play too. You're the one with no argument but I'm sure you'll keep whining that you're right anyway.>>550079225>You seem to have a problem with wanting to wear your intentions on your clothing and I'm curious as to why that is? Because coming across another player and not being certain of what his intentions are is the fun part of this game. Color coding everybody and turning it into a glorified TDM would be incredibly boring and there are better games to play for it. The PvE and PvP in themselves are not great. You literally cannot fathom that somebody might like the system without doing the exact thing you hate.
>>550080009>Slapping on a big shoot me sign on pvpers wont make any of that go away when the guy is hiding in a bush regardless and downs you in 0.5 seconds with a stitcher.He had to get all the way across the map in the "shoot me" outfit to camp in the bush. That's how it's balanced. As of right now the extract camp guy just looks like a normal guy and can fake friendly until he gets into position then turns "twisted fucking psychopath XD"
kos niggers make me sick...
>>550080231>He had to get all the way across the map in the "shoot me" outfit to camp in the bushNot even. Multiple spawns are close to extraction on a lot of maps. Not to mention night raids and storm maps having hard visibility. So okay, a guy has a big shoot me sign. He still spawns in as freekit and suicides until he gets a favorable spawn or he gets lucky enough to not get shot while crossing the map. He still sits behind a wall or in a bush and kills someone in 0.5 seconds. You've solved nothing.
>>550080061>Because coming across another player and not being certain of what his intentions are is the fun part of this game. Color coding everybody and turning it into a glorified TDM would be incredibly boring and there are better games to play for it. The PvE and PvP in themselves are not great. You literally cannot fathom that somebody might like the system without doing the exact thing you hate.Nothing is going to get done down this pathway with the TTK being this low. The tension is just going to go away when everyones going to be corner peeking the whole time and extraction camping
>>550078570Jolt is king cause the radius is nuts, place em around any door and whoever is walking through without thinking is fucked. Gas can be a cool way to stall someone I guess, I haven't gotten to test that out enough. Maybe Pair it with some explosives since they'll be out of stamina?
>>550080061>Because coming across another player and not being certain of what his intentions are is the fun part of this gameI understand that, but this is an idealized aspirational thing that actually plays out that way maybe 20% of the time. The actual game people are playing is getting ganked by a silent stitcher. That's what ACTUALLY happens. I get why you like the idea of moral greyness, but in reality it's just dickheads preying on people's goodwill. >>550080487I would rather be extract camped by someone that had to mark themselves as a villain than someone who walked up saying "Hey man im friendly" and i gave them the benefit of the doubt. I would respect the villain player more and in my mind that's no different that being killed by a rocketeer. Some dickweed preying on my better nature and knowing how annoying this game can be is abominable and if that's the type of game you want, you're gonna see a sub 20k playercount next Christmas
>>550080747>this game can be is abominable and if that's the type of game you want, you're gonna see a sub 20k playercount next ChristmasThat's the genre. If you can't handle people killing you after saying they were friendly, go play an MMO. Winds of Winter or whatever the fuck that Chinese slop is called is more your game. You failing to understand why KoS is so prevalent and thinking slapping on a clown suit for KoS players will make the game good is a dumb idea.>LOL KOS NIGGER FAGGOTNope. Besides, if the carebear lobbies are true, I must be in them. If you keep getting betrayed, it sounds like youre the problem if you keep getting placed in those lobbies. My lobbies are very friendly. Im still on edge and dont let my guard down when I meet people though and thats where a lot of fun of the game is. Havent been betrayed in a while. And it turning into TDM like the other anon says is lame because it removes all that tension and all I have to look out for is a big "please kill me" mark on raiders.
>>550081379you're so cool
>>550081379sociopath postHypothetical question, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast?
If they're balancing around the streamers that's retarded because they're playing a game mode that isn't available to anyone else. They just run to security on blue gate and fend off stream snipers for 15 minutes. You cant play the raid mode until you unlock a successful streaming career with 8k average viewers
PvPbros, why are the PvEbros always so hateful and angry? Don't they always say they play games for fun?
>>550081812>sociopath postAgain look at my picture. I am not a KoS player.>Hypothetical question, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast?I would feel sad and hungry. Now do you actually have an argument or are you going to keep calling me names?
>>550069395Its pretty amazing. I got murdered there once yesterday when I was just kind of exploring and not going for pinks or anything so I didnt have anything good on me, but I find such great loot during my normal runs that it doesn’t even matter.
>>550081876Because there is no pvp in this game's solo mode. It's not pvp. It's just nigger chain snatch simulator. You dont want to be marked as a pvper because you dont actually want to do pvp. You want to nigger chain snatch
>>550081971>Again look at my picture. I am not a KoS player.You're talking to people that cry they're friendly as somebody's shooting at them expecting them to stop and then come on here and whine about how they're a nigger for not asking for consent to pvp.
>>550082172If I shot someone and they said "hey stop" I would stop
>>550082172I actually dont mind the ones that shoot at me and leave me enough time to react or at least throw a smoke. It's getting melted by a sitcher while I'm moving shit around to fit a magnetic accelerator up my asshole that does it for me, truly
holy fuck split this gen into carebear gen and playing the game normal general
>>550082785The game is both things. By design.
how can anyone think a pve mode for this game would be fun.you go into a building and negate all damage done by arcs including the big scary bosses.
>>550082254I would see the path I've chosen to it's end rather than kneel and quit my journey as soon as anybody pressures me or the road gets uncomfortable like I knew to expect. I guess I'm just too white.
>>550081379Firm believer in the kos meta. Sight being the keyword here. Open mics get nothing but love or ignorance not lead. That being said it’s harder to do this but makes the game much more enjoyable than a schizophrenic panic shooter. TTK is a big fucking issue with free kits.
>>550082843They're either that dogshit or just too retarded to realize the game feels tense because of other players.
>>550082843No one is advocating for PVE-only in this thread.
>carebearsThe game has dedicated buttons that say "dont shoot" and "want to team up?"What game do YOU think you're playing?
I really dont get why “pvp” players are getting completely ass blasted at the thought that there might be aggression based matchmaking. The dev said its a factor. Not the only factor. Thats why my chungus runs get interrupted.
>>550083615They want a medal for shooting people in looting screens.
>f bomb>n bombthe good old days of mp are gone, these are the kind of people youre playing with nowadays
>>550083975>Oh no i have to be more creative with my insults and cant be backwoods trailer trash
Just bought this game on a whim around three hours ago. What the fuck am I supposed to do? Open boxes and have other players scream "DONT SHOOT". Is that the entire game?
>>550084134yep>3 hourssorry you wasted money
>>550084134Tell steam you accidentally left the game on while your kid was having a medical emergency and ask for a refund. Not even kidding.
>>550084134You can shoot them if you want, but since doing that is optional the person getting shot might get annoyed and call you a faggot or something.
>>550084134>he fell for itHAHAHAH YES ANOTHER ONE
>>550084134I know you're just trolling, but on the chance you're not, queue up for "fill group" it puts you into trios thats way more pvp orientedsolos is people doing quests so they can do the pvp, solos isnt made for pvp because its not easy for people to pick you up, which is one of the main components of the pvp in this game, getting downed, crawling to your team, and getting revived mid fight if the other team doesnt bleed you outthat whole aspect is lost in solos
>>550083831Turns out the "pvpchads" dont actually care much for pvp
>>550084134Yeah, PvE in this game is so much fun isnt it? Hopefully you dont get your fun matches ruined by one of those pvp sociopaths.
>>550084462this
I feel like there is a schizo in here replying to himself
>>550084134Sometimes you say "want to team up?" too. Try it sometime.
>>550085196Note: this carries a 50% chance the other person doesnt have access to running water and takes that angst out on you
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/arc-raiders-matchmaking-pairs-you-with-players-of-similar-playstyles/ar-AA1Sgksy?ocid=BingNewsSerp
>>550084462>I know you're just trollingUnfortunately, I am not. It's genuinely dawning on me that I bought a game where you do nothing and then fiddle around in a menu for five minutes before doing more nothing.
>>550085628or just read the rest of my post and queue for trioswhat's with you retard shitposters
>spawn in with free kit with friend to just get loot>walk 100 feet out of spawn>immediately killed by two people camping>happens the next 3 raids in a rowOh, so is the game now at the point where nobody has anything else to do but play like a faggot? Cool.
>>550085676>post and queue for triosBut if I die, won't I lose the shit I spent hours looking through boxes for?
>>550084134No, I actually like to go no kit with just a Ferro IV and take shots at people fighting arc from a distance.
>>550085597>During a conversation with PC Gamer, art director Robert Sammelin confirmed that the ARC Raiders devs “analyse behavior and match accordingly.” What this implies is that nice players get matched with fellow friendlies, while those who like to pop other raiders on sight are likewise matched accordingly. Sammelin wouldn’t discuss the matter further, but it answers a few questions players have had about matchmaking since the game launched.
>>550085728the pvpfags that have been pvping for the last 2 months are only at 1mil and think they have to kill 5x as many people for the 5milinstead of just looting and extracting like normal
>>550085761Yes, then you farm the loot back up and go again. Eventually you quit the game because you get sick of rats, extract campers, and spawn campers whose number only goes up the longer the game is out. There is nothing to do after finishing the quests and upgrading your work benches except to RP in solos and rat/camp in duo/trio.
>>550085597>>550085920Why are the wholesome PvEfags constantly whining about getting KoS'd then?
>>550085936I don't mind PvP when it's my duo and I vs another duo that we organically come across. Every duo we have faced tonight was either ratting. spawn camping, or extract camping. I have not had a SINGLE organic fight today. We had a sniper duo on hospital roof on Buried City that literally died to the timer because their entire goal was just to rat people for the sake of it.
>>550082843no one wants pve mode, they want a balance to pvptwo different things
>people legit think pve isn't fun you load into steller montis and you tell me its not fun to shoot robots waht the fuck?
>>550086521It will never be balanced because you can see around corners due to the perspective. It encourages camping and rat gameplay because the perspective gives rats/campers an overwhelming advantage. This game is going to have a massive long term issue of people quitting because the PvP ends up being very boring after so many hours.
>>550086521I want a terminator: future war PvE mode.
>>550086652The PvE is fun in small doses and it's satisfying to take out the AI, for sure. Would I play this game as is if it was PvE and I never had to worry about other players? Fuck no, it would get boring so fast.
I seriously can't imagine how fun it is to kill someone in <2 secondsand they're even on mic going "hey bro, I'm friendly"
>5th partied on the outskirts of spaceport in solosWhen are we going to admit that the maps are too crowded, embark
>>550086190Thats what he said. He never said it was the only factor. Maybe the priority is getting the player into the game as fast as possible with who is available. Maybe the next priority is making sure solos aren’t in duo lobbies. Maybe aggression is somewhere after that. Maybe its a chungus gone rouge? You really should start thinking.
>>550086652it compliments the pvp very well because it can catch you off guard since theyre stronger than any other extraction shooter pvp where its usually really really dumb ai that goes down in one headshot, but on its own it aint no helldivers 2 thats for sure
>>550083975oh no, words>teh horror
>>550087147They won't change shit. Stella Montis is the worst multiplayer experience I have ever had>Spawn>Encounter another player within 30 seconds>Immediately get 3rd partied>4th partied>5th partied>6th partied>etc>Just a room full of freshly spawned free kits killing one another for 20 minutesThe wheels are starting to fall off this game.
>>550083975>dude called him a niggerfaggot>redditor so retarded that he mixes "f-bomb" and "f-slur"
>>550083975I call spawn campers faggots and tell them to kill themselves idgaf
>>550068048>but not in the context of killing people standing there going "friendly" in solosthe problem here isn't inherently PVP but the ttk AKA Embark's shitty balancing that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge or adjust, as well as the alleged friendly/sweatnigger matchmaking lobbies based on recent match history.Imagine, if you will, a hypothetical Arc Raiders that is the same game we know now, BUT>matchmaking is actually random, you can choose to play however you want without, for example, being punished for defending yourself>freekit weapons are terrible, but not unusable (ala the rattler)>ttk has been raised across the board, you can now react and recover from getting shot without immediately dying>pink/gold weapons are no longer strict downgrades from freekits and worth usingbut no this is unreasonable because Johan the father of three that plays two matches a weekend needs to be able to freekit and chat with people (this is somehow their "core audience" that needs to be catered to)
>>550087669Keep doing it. I get your gear and get you banned lmaoooo
>>550087825Every single negative thought you have ever had about yourself is true. Absolutely nobody would miss you if you killed yourself and they would likely be glad and celebrate that you are gone. The next time that little voice tells you to commit suicide, you should listen to it as it would be the only truly good thing you have ever done in your miserable excuse of a life.
>>550078823Could I plant 4 mines at the end of a zipline to kill people or is there a fun detector in place that would activate and ensure that it won't happen?
>>550087998Yes.
>>550087983Hope you can talk fast cuz you ain't saying all that before my hand bitch slaps your face and sends you back to the lobby lmfaooooo
>>550081876>PVEniggerhuman woman>PVPbromonster girl>elaborateno
>>550087725It would be worse because PvP would turn even more into a grenade spam and corner peaking shitfest. It would give rats and campers an even bigger advantage. The third person perspective is a major design flaw with the game and it enables degenerate gameplay.
>doing fast loot run(gotta get that sweet 5 skill points!)>some guy comes hey>"hey man hows it going? you enjoyin th->fill him with 17 stitcher bullets in under 2 seconds>he starts shitting and pissing his pants going IM FRIENDLY IM FRIENDLY during this>say sorry not sorry i got a family to take care ofman pvp is so awesome dudesi didn't say anything in the mic i just ran in and shot him
How come all these gay streamers who only PvP never play Buried City?
>get shot in the back by some faggot with red hair>ask what his problem is and call him a loser>someone comes up and kills him>checks his body>doesn't have a defib but does have a hatch key>we're right next to a hatch>he opens it and lets me escapewhat a whirlwind of emotions, bros
>>550088170Cool enjoy the free kit while you jerk off over avoiding fights and pretending to be good. I know you don't have anything else going for you in life other than worthless loot in a game where basic weapons dominate. Dumb fuck.
>>550088216You put my thoughts into words so much better than I could have.
>>550088348>enjoy the free kitevery single time
>>550088437>laughing because he cannot actually PvP and spawn camps insteadIt's going to be hilarious when the game dies because people like you refuse to actually play it and instead just use it to ego trip.
how much longer do i have to make 5 mill?
>>550088220>The third person perspective is a major design flaw with the game and it enables degenerate gameplay.I agree completely. I can't think of a way to fix it that wouldn't look like shit so we're probably stuck with it.I just want to have a chance to react to these players. Sub reaction-time TTKs shouldn't be a thing in a TPS and especially not with network issues like this game has. Imagine if Tarkov had a TPS mode with a crosshair and you'd still be able to onetap someone to the face? You'd NEVER see people move in firefights or if they hear someone coming so it doesn't surprise me that people end up camping corners here either. It's stupid to not do it.If the TTK was raised I am confident that people would be less inclined to just sit still and wait and the game would be better off for it.>>5500886959 days
>>550088871>9 daysim at 1.1 mill and lets say 8 daysthats about $500k a day which is about 10 runs average of $50k should i just spam stella montis?
>>550087725Why would I ever not use a free kit unless I needed a safe pocket for something? Why would I bother trying to farm the bigger ARC for materials when I can kill other players faster with a Sticher? This entire game falls apart once you realize the loot is meaningless. You don't actually need workbench upgrades or blueprints or anything else other than Ferro + Stitcher forever. There's no reason to actually kill the queen or anything. People are realizing this more and more as time goes on. The only thing to do is PvP but PvP is dogshit because third person perspective and fast TTK. The game is all flash and zero substance.
>>550088871It would be easier to sit still and wait with a higher TTK. People would just pack more mines and grenades to repel and push. Fundamentally, being able to see around corners in a PvP game breaks it and turns it into a campers paradise. If your goal is to PvP you are incentivized regardless of TTK to camp an area or spawns because you can simply see them long before they know you are there and trigger your ambush at any time. A higher TTK would just result in you getting to a corner of your own and then getting hit with grenade spam. If you survived that then it would devolve into both of you not moving from your corners until a third party comes and pins you from another corner. It's just dogshit game design.
>>550088557>It's going to be hilarious when the game dies because people like youOk?
Seriously guys what the fuck do I do? I blew 50 bucks on this game and I'm just sifting through boxes and emoting.
>>550088348This is how you project folks
>>550089534You fell for the best multiplayer award, didn't you?
>>550089365think its why we need to have more robots and increased respawn frequencyyou dont want to be caught outdoors for a prolong periods of time.indoors should have insanely more high security measures and not a couple pops ticks and 1 turreti dont know whta they could do but they also need to put some more measures into the game to really encourage people to actually team up instead of yanking our dicks and doing socialized mexican standoffs the whole time
>>550089365Not only that, but it also makes pushing extremely difficult and so anyone that is already camping is nearly impossible to push. Even in trios it's not worth it to push a team that's even slightly dug in
>>550089534>50I paid like 25, you got robbed.Anyway, do the quests to get a feel for the game.
>>550089534>do quests>farm mats for crafting benches>realize everything you could craft is worse than the free kits>grief people until you get bored and uninstallThat's the entire game. Just spam free kits and kill people for loot that doesn't matter. Don't even bother taking their loot besides grenades/heals/ammo because none of it actually matters at all. It's an extraction shooter for people that don't like extraction shooters. Embark won't make loot actually matter because the casual player base would actually an hero if they lost meaningful loot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPaAifuGSmo
>>550090117>free kitsWhat is a free kit? I cannot understand how new I am.
>>550089534My friend bought me this game. You got robbed.
what the fuck do I do
>>550090209tab over after selecting a map and before you hit deploy
>Round feedback: How much did you enjoy the last round?>A late spawn in stella where a nigger shot at me and threw some grenades at me, but I vanished into the eastern tunnelI hated it >:(
>>550089967You would need so many ARC for this to work that the game would defacto turn into a PvE game and PvP would just devolve into people waiting for the other guy to get ARC aggro and then killing him while distracted. There's no way to fix the game and have it remain third person. Extraction games are about risk vs reward and third person POV puts all of the reward on playing passive and all of the risk on playing aggressive.
>>550090431wtf? How is this a thing? Why would I do anything when I can just get a random mumbo jumbo kit?
>>550090336i was the last man on the server since this was the last station open, eventually timed outJumping behind the posters in the northern station and moving your mouse by the nearby walls apparently lets the Unstuck command put you out of boundsand the walls of the station have collision on both sides
YOU ARE PLAYING A RAT GAME
>>550090575You wouldn't.
There is one song that plays while you're matchmaking that I haven't found on Youtube yet.Might just have to record it myself.
>>550090575>Why would I do anything when I can just get a random mumbo jumbo kit?The main reason is that custom kits, even spawning in nude, have a safe pocket. A secure inventory slot that preserves the item even if you fail to extract. So playing a custom kit gives you a guaranteed way to preserve a single high value item like a blueprint. Some looting augments have multiple safe pockets.In a perfect world custom kits would provide appreciable bonuses to survivability and offensive power. But embark is dumb as fuck and the stitcher/kettle/ferro are some of the best guns in the game and they're still high A-tier even when given to you in a welfare kit without any upgrades. Also higher rarity shields are useless as fuck.
>waaahhhh pvpers everywhereBeing a consolegod I just turn off cosplay and its back to launch raiders
I don't understand why grey weapons are a 1000x more durable than the rare shit. Even if I wanted to repair the grey gun, it would take all of 1 stick of gum to repair.
>>550083975what an f-bom n-word
>>550091012but console has more niggers
Is it just me, or do people rarely go to the sandbox on stella?
>>550090968>safe pocket.Safe pocket means asshole right?
>>550090968Except that none of those blueprints even matter because it's easier and more efficient to just abuse basic weapons.
>>550091352does that mean the free kits seal your ass shut, or do the regular kits find some way of stretching your ass out?
>>550091198Because Embark is retarded and made an extraction game for people that hate extraction games.
>>550091675Free kits consent to a cavity search.
the community is filled with faggots and trannies.we need to make it more TOXIC.
>trying to listen for audio cues in Stella Montis>somebody poked the bastion>*BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTT!!!!*>The brrrting continues for 10 minutes
>>550092191Join me>>550065768
So if I'm wholesome chungus, I get put into lobbies with other wholesome chungie?
>>550084134>>550089534Just refund it anon, this isn't an actual extraction shooter
>>550092857yeah, sure, whatever kid...go try it and tell us how it goes.
>>550092215that dumb bot can be heard from any corner of spaceport. sometimes I plink at it with my hairpin to annoy others
why are you faggots wasting your life on this game instead of playing better games, or rather doing something with your life?
>>550093032this but on generals for games you hate instead of anywhere else
post em
>>550090647>>550090647>>550090647rotate when ready
>>550056962You are legit braindead retarded if you don’t take 3-6 triggernades into every raidAt the very minimum this is godsend if you ever get put in wholesome chungus lobbies with degenerates running around in nigger lacks of 5-7, you knock all these fuckers, then smack them to death until you are completely out of stamina
>>550086652You want a good time? Crack someone’s shields and lead them into another player that was fighting arc.
