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>>550043695dq is more consistent. ffs highs are really high but its lows are awfully low, even the worst dq is nowhere near as bad as the worst ff.
>>550043907INCREDIBLY flat
Just got Princess Cannock and damn, this girl is really behind. Did they really expect me to beat that bat so early? Dude was insanely strong.
>>550051583She catches up fast.
>>550051583>Did they really expect me to beat that bat so early?No. They expect you to have completed the Alefgard storyline first.
>>550050578I'd say FF games are the one with the more steady quality. Playing older DQ games means worse menuing and towns are a slog. Final Fantasy most of them are so quick to play through until around the ps1 era but even there you're comparing them with DQ7 and it's dreadful pacing.
>>550052030Is it weird if I feel like Jade is the most pure of the XI girls? I can easily see Serena being tricked into sex and Veronica getting bombarded with compliments but Jade is such a hard arse that she has no time for me and flirting and sex and all other kinds.
>>550044148Maybe if you're going by the post XIII games but before then the only shaky games are 2 and maybe pre-pixel 3. With Dragon Quest a good number of the games are love it or hate it.
>>550060029Any definition of "shaky" that includes any mainline DQ games surely has to include FFVIII, X-2 and XII. I wouldn't include any version of III though, that game's great.
>>550059131Idk personally, I find DQ to go>1 sucks, 2 sucks, 3 is okay, 4 is great, 5 is okay, 6 is good, 7 is amazing, 8 is amazing, 9 is okay, 10 is great, 11 is amazingWhile FF for me is>1 sucks, 2 sucks, 3 is good, 4 is great, 5 is okay, 6 sucks, 7 is amazing, 8 sucks, 9 is great, 10 is amazing, 12 sucks, 13 sucks, 14 is good, 15 is okayBoth start rough, but DQ doesn't have a mainline release that sucks once you get past the NES era, meanwhile FF has stinkers in every era, and especially nowadays just releases pure garbage.Also to clarify for my list on which games I prefer was moreso an overall list than just the oldest versions of the games, so looking at DQ1 and 2 vs FF1 and 2 for example, I would put the original versions on par with each other, really I'd rather not play any of those, but if we turn to remakes, I'd take any of the DQ1 and 2 remakes over any remakes of FF1 and 2.
>>5500612488 is fine. The levelling thing is weird but I find it one of the most amusing games writing wise. It's certainly not a bad experience. X-2 has great gameplay and is surprisingly down to earth and emotional when it wants to be but has a kinda shit story and overstays it's welcome, and XII is again a pretty fun game to play. I will say that I feel DQ does spinoff titles so much better tho. There's nothing on the level of kink as the monsters games.
>>550061259I kinda find the first games in both series to be way better than any of the later nes titles lol. They both have a very short and sweet feel to them. You can clear them on a good weekend and feel totally satisfied.The snes era final fantasy games however are simply on a whole other level. 4 is truly timeless, 5 is bizarrely well balanced for its age to the point you still get four job fiesta runs to this day, and 6 is debatably the pinnacle of console rpg's. And that's every version of the games. They're all perfectly playable and have new stuff to offer. Whilst with dragon quest you either have the soulful but clunky originals or the rpgmaker ds remakes.
>>550059340Not until you rewrite history to retcon her corruption arcJade was the first girl I married out of the party, since she's the female with the most sexual compatibility with Hero. (See: Puff Buff, holding hands on first date)
>>550059131For me it's: (I haven't played DQ1-2 Remake yet)FF1 > DQ1FF2 > DQ2FF3 < DQ3FF4 < DQ4FF5 = DQ5 (These are both my favovrite jrpgs so I can't pick between them. Surprisingly FFV is quite overlooked in the community it's crazy. People ignore the story just because of the job system it's annoying. It's how FF fans think of DQ when they play 5)Haven't played DQ6 so can't compareHaven't played DQ7 so can't compare (Is DQ7 PS1 intro that much longer than 3ds? I heard it's like 8 hours before you see your first battle but no way that's right)FF8 < DQ8 (I like FF8 but holy shit was it messy, DQ8 was consistently good)FF9 < DQ9Haven't played 10 not really comparable so I'll say this instead for the restXVI > DQXI > XIII > XII > XV
Jade is overrated.Serena > Veronica > Jade > GemmaIt sucks how Gemma doesn't join you though. Marrying your childhood friend is cute and all but 5 minutes of screentime and then getting married whole freaking hours later is just ass lol. Biggest miss in DQ. And even taking the "other romances" doesn't even feel that good either since it barely feels like you're moving into a new chapter and I get it it's not suppose to be but that sucks.
>>550063113I don't get what's supposed to be "clunky" about the older DQ games at all. Plenty of other series have older entries that feel totally different and much worse, but old DQ is just... DQ. What's there to get hung up on?>rpgmaker ds remakesEven if you have awful taste and think the PS1/DS games look bad, they still don't look anything like rpgmaker games. The SFC games legitimately look more like rpgmaker games than the DS games do.
>>550063541>Is DQ7 PS1 intro that much longer than 3ds? I heard it's like 8 hours before you see your first battle but no way that's right)It's more like two hours. 3DS cuts it down to roughly 30 minutes.
>>550063541>Is DQ7 PS1 intro that much longer than 3ds? I heard it's like 8 hours before you see your first battle but no way that's rightThe intro is 2 hours at most if you talk to everyone and search everything. The ruins are designed with actual puzzles to solve, so if you get stuck there you could maybe add another half hour to your time.
>>550063541>XVI > DQXINow that's a red hot take.
>>550063541>I heard it's like 8 hours before you see your first battle but no way that's rightIt's not. Anyone telling you the DW7 intro takes more than a couple hours is either genuinely retarded or hasn't played the game.
>>550063698For me itsVeronica > Gemma > Serena > JadeI still married Gemma though.
>>550063978>>550064049thanks i wanna give it a try but with 7R (kek can't believe I can say it) coming so soon, I don't want to tap myself out before playing reimagined. >>550064095man xvi has gotta be the most overhated jrpg recently. it's like a good 9/10 most of the time and dips to 6.5-7/10 tier while DQXI was like a consistent 7.5-8/10 but I still really love a lot of XVI stuff. you think DQXII is going to have a moment where they pull "THIS IS OUR QUEST TO HUNT THE DRAGONS" >>550064279people only like jade because big boobs. (and it's not really THAT big)
>>550063541XIII > XII
>>550064405im a huge storyfag and XIII was more entertaining than XII. XII had some neat scenes with Vaan talking to Ashe and telling her revenge isn't the option but then the plot just ups and disappears halfway through the game. the game was more fun playing like an offline mmo where it's just exploring the areas and watching your team hit everything to death. never really had a moment like seeing Oerba for the first time, or Sazh suicide, or Hope about to kill Snow.
>>550064398Jade's more about the legs.
>>550064630i can understand liking jade for the corruption ntr.
>>550064590>im a huge storyfagoh yeah then i can't disagree, and i also liked XIII myself (though XIII-2 is way better)
>>550064871>XIII-2 is better
>>550065137i meant gameplay-wiset. not a huge storyfag
>>550065196eh.i didn't like the pokemon mechanic nor how they streamlined it so much that it became pretty easy to just do com/rav/rav. xiii you had to debuff/buff or you die. the qol changes were nice though
>>550064398>the most overhated jrpg recentlyIt's barely a JRPG. It's a much better action game than XV (the worst action game ever made) but it's even less of a Final Fantasy.>>550064405I completely agree that XIII is a way worse game than XII in every way I care about, but somehow XII is way less than the sum of its parts while XIII is enjoyable slop.The best XIII game is Lightning Returns, which could've been good if it had a budget higher than Toriyama's pocket change.
Has anyone here played Dragon Quest Swords?
>>550065901Yeah, it's cute. I wish the modern spinoffs were so high-effort.
>>550051583She catches up around 40, and thats around when she stops doing random shit instead of following orders.Like her brother, she does a little bit of everything, but none of it all that well. Sje has high AGI and LCK, feed her some AGI, WIS and HP seeds to let her get buffs off first. Hustle Dance has saved my bacon once or twice too.
>>550063541Your taste is garbage as usual. Go back to /ffg/, Yoshitroon.
>>550073798huh
>>550060029i think the only bad dq is 9 and that there hasnt been a good ff since 12
>>550063541ive played the original versions and would rate themFF1 < DQ1FF2 > DQ2FF3 < DQ3FF4 > DQ4FF5 < DQ5FF6 > DQ6FF7 = DQ7FF8 < DQ8FF8 > DQ9FF10 = DQ10FF11 < DQ11
>>550080563>FF8 > DQ9meant FF9 obviously
dq3 hero mom is kinda hot why don't we have hentai of her
>>550085249There probably is.
>>550085249She's just Chi-Chi. There's no shortage of that.
>>550085707not really see had the ara ara haircut
>>550080563>comparing the single player jrpg with the mmo>comparing the mmo with the single player jrpg that released much later?
>>550086238its the number entries against each other. thats all.
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>>550088964FF1 and DQ3 were being developed around the same time so if anything you should compare them by release date to be more fair about the design choices the technology allowed and inspired.ie FF1vsDQ3 FF2vsDQ4 FF3vsDQ5 and so on.
>>550055934>>550051583You can beat Brute Bat right away even on Draconian as long as you have Kabuff. 4 stacks with the best armor you've got is enough to ensure that you can tank his physical blows. Any errant spells or whatever can be handled by using magic resist gear.The main reason to do Alefgard first (or at least everything before the Dragonlord Castle) is to pick up the Fire Sword and scum for the Gold Bracer both of which are best in slot gear for Midenhall for an extremely long time.
>>550067665She has the 2nd highest hp stat and is like the fastest party member. The main stat that you want to boost is Wisdom since her MP is rather low.
>>550092061I love this one.
given they're remaking the mainline games i wonder if there's plans to at least remaster/port spin-offs like joker 3 or terry 3D
Any other games I can play that's like DQ3 where you pick 4 dudes and their classes early on and just go for it man face it straight? You think there would be a few indie games like this already.
>>550120657DQ9also lots of crpgs but while they can be turn based they're not the 4 niggas in a row variety
>>550059340I don't know about "pure", but I can definitely see her as being the most honest. She can and will flirt when the situation calls for it, but she's not the type that'll tease or play hard to get. She'd be upfront about her intentions and exactly what she wants from you.
>>550124482So basically, the "boot to the head" scene.
>>550093441thats not the point of my post
>>550120657every wizardry, some d&d games
>>550120657>>550130368Might & Magic too, and tons of other PC dungeon crawlers if you're into those. Battle system quality not guaranteed.
>>550130368>>550130787oh man these aren't cute though>>550122335yeah i should give dq9 a try. there's no super classes right? love that shit in ff1 and im surprised no other jrpg has done that except for squareim intentionally baiting for you to prove me wrong please prove me wrong
>>550131575>these aren't cute thoughetrian odyssey
>>550120657Crystal Project is really, really good. It's more Final Fantasy than Dragon Quest though and you'll be inclined to switch your team's classes up occasionally. Also it has even less story than DQ3 for maximum roleplaying.
>>550132169EO is really cute>>550133092be honest with me since its a western indie gameis it gay
Jade gives of asexual rep kind of a feel to me. She has no interest in romance or sex in the slightest but will utilise it as a tool if needed. Maybe she's aromasexual?
>>550133502>is it gayShockingly, not in the slightest. It's a little cringey at times (Partially intentionally) because the world is kind of modeled after an MMO. But also you can steal milk from the giantess monsters.
>>550134870>aromasexualIf that means she has a sexual aroma, then yes.
>>5501315759 has classes but it also has skill trees that carry over between them. some say the system makes it hard to design your party but in my expirience everything runs smoothly when you know what you want to unlock and when. it may take several playthroughs to find your style so im sure the negative reviewers only tried it once.
>>550133502really cute and a really fun series
Playing DQ3 on a challenge run and I already failed it. As soon as I got the boat, MC gets fucking WHOOSH'd by a seamonster and got fucked. I was looking to "edit" my challenge run so I still have some resemblance of fun challenge but not "lol bad luck so fuck you">Original Rules-Anyone dies. Immediate drop off at Patty.-Hero dies. Game over.-Everyone must be on tactics except Hero-No Sage or mage users. Hero is the only one that can use "magic".>Modified rules a little-Anyone dies. Immediate drop off at Patty unless you have a Yggdrasil Leaf (You must use it right away. If no leaf, they are perma dead) Only exception to this rule is during boss fights. (If anyone dies during a boss fight and no leaf in inventory, go back to the last save) -Hero dies. Return back to last save immediately. You cannot rez hero even with a Yggdrasil Leaf.-Everyone must be on tactics except Hero unless it's a boss battle. -1 Sage allowed (perm). This must be your merchant you drop off at TownburgDoes this seem more reasonable? The only thing I hate with my original rules is that my party members keep using propeller blade or monster rush thing all the damn time or they'll spam soothering song even if it's better to use groom or at least attack and let hero just heal. I hate having all these abilities and my party not even doing shit with them (wish DQ3 had some sort of gambit system).
>>550136061I've seen you a lot and I have no idea how that B tier came to be. I haven't played VI but I know a lot of DQers find it meh so I'm genuinely surprised it's up there too. I'm can't say whether your wrong or right because I haven't played it. II and IV being that high is also kinda weird and I can say that because I have played it.
>>550133092>>550135106I'll save it in my backlog thanks. I have seen it a couple of times but I'm really turned off by western indie games for obvious reasons.I should give One Way Heroics another try again. that was fun.
>>550063939>The SFC games legitimately look more like rpgmaker games than the DS games do.5 looks like an NES game with only barely more effort put into shading, and 6 had a lot of cut corners made to get the game out on time, not helped by the DQ trio being still too worn out from Chrono Trigger to bring their best efforts.
>>5501360619's class issue tends to be more that you really need to plan ahead for which role they'll do otherwise you're stuck levelling pointless classes. Also the mc is just an egg on bot which is pretty feelsbad. I don't understand why it gets such a bad rep here since the game feels really great to play. Just use a little imagination and you can easily enjoy making your own party
>>550145154i think the game clashes artistically a bit and really dont care for the skills and classes together. would rather just have one or the other. its also just not very fun to playthrough single player because of how much content is multiplayer focused
>>550148970The multiplayer content is infinitely grinding dungeons and fighting unfair superbosses. To me the main story is the best part due to being way better paced than like 90% of DQ titles, none of the towns outstaying their welcome, and the game not being all that long to play. I could easily pick up DQ9 for a quick playthrough which I just can't do with 8 or 11 or 5.
>>550150467>5I get the others, but V isn't a long game at all. I've never properly tracked a playthrough of IX but I'd be surprised if V was much longer, and it's definitely better paced.
>>550150467i think 9 is really not fun on replays because everything feels like it takes forever. dont really understand thinking the pacing is good. i also hate the gal fairy and trains, forgot to mention that before, feels very not dq to me.
Is there any must learn moves for Sage before going into them? What's the best class to use before transforming into them? Warrior?
>>550145154>I don't understand why it gets such a bad rep here since the game feels really great to playWeird ass exp formula that punishes lower level characters by giving them less expGathering alchemy materials sucks, especially when it comes to needing ones that you can't get from the daily spawn pointsSidequests range from alright to hot ass.
>>550153641Kinda surprised there's not much min-maxing autism on DQ3. It is an easy game but still.
>>550153792The game has already been solved, especially in the remakes. Everyone learns Wild Side, pick up a Persecutter/Cutting Edge bot and then build the rest of the team around supporting him/her.If you want to do something a bit different (mostly for the main game) then you can consider a magic heavy team where you run something like Hero/Mage/Sage/Filler and use Spooky Aura + Duplic Hat shenanigans.
>>550154342*thumbs up*what's some good answers to some of my questions?
>>550154505You can't really give a good answer unless you know the rest of the team. The generic piece of advice someone can give is, if you have a Mage/Priest in the same team, the Sage is a replacement for the Priest and not a Mage.
>>550154723*thumbs up* i only use physical builds *kachow gun emote*
>>550154723>if you have a Mage/Priest in the same team, the Sage is a replacement for the Priest and not a Mage.I had both and turned them both into Sages, why shouldn't Mage go into Sage?
>>550157053Mages already do most of the stuff you'd want out of your Sage inherently while also leveling faster.Thus, if you only had one class change item, it would be better to change the Priest into the Sage.
>>550158046Ah. I actually did my Mage first cause I figured it would be more valuable to have the extra healer.
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>>550092061veronica quest!
>>550137234please stop following me>>550153381>hating trainskerplunk yourself>>550145154>mc is just an egg on botthats true if you go for tension focused combat but if thats the case you can rely on the galdiators pep power. most of the time i prefer taking advantage of the combo system manipulating the order with agility boosts. you can also beat the game with the good old sap and oomph just fine. i do agree that a big part of the game was meant for multiplayer. you could visit a friends world to change into a vocation you havent yet unlocked and get late game gear as early as stornway. even the online store broke the deifficulty when it was still around. i enjoy the freedom a lot but i can see why linear games are more popular since they demand less from the player.
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>>550173975i like trains a lot i just dont think they have any place in dq. i also thought spirit tracks was stupid for the same reason.
The new remakes really improved 1 and 2 for me. They used to be at the bottom
>>550133092I'm pretty late but I'll second this. It also managed to scratch my Metroidvania itch. Lots of exploration to be had.
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>>550192074Do you think it's tidy?
>>550192524No.
>>550193405How scandalous! She's the mayor's daughter! She should be keeping herself prim and proper in all ways.
>>550179507Agree, 1 still has the feel, but 2 is a quantum leap compared to it. Im enjoying them both more that I though I would, im currently gridan and treasure hunting in 2, before i go vanquish hargon.>>550192524No, she lets it run its course. Too nervous to get strange or sharp things nearby.
I will not rest until Hargon is dead.
Do you think Hargon ever made Mariella dress up like a dragon
>>550194004She 100% wears giga bloomers, no one would ever know.
Liked 3HD but I wasn't a fan of scouring every where for both minimedals and monsters. The game also felt like it dragged after a while.1HD was fun up until the green dragon, then the entire midgame felt awful but it became fun again near the end.2HD is pretty enjoyable so far but I don't want to get my hopes up yet (at Tower of the Moon).
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>>550201826The original DQ7 localization feels like the people in charge forgot they weren't working on the GBC games anymore.
>>550194727Are you me? Im going thru his castle now
>>550198953>at Tower of the MoonYou should be closing in on the end at this point.
>>550202406Were you once also a dog? If so, then yes.
>>550203115No, but i was a cat once. It pleases me greatly to travel the world and see comfy kitties free of Hargons evil.
Why is Erik's title "Luminary's Bosom Buddy"?
>>550198953I'm playing 3HD right now and I think it peaked right when it opens up at the start and you're free to go wherever before rescuing the bandits. It's "closed" off enough so it's not like the orbs where it's complete where the hecky do I go (yes i know you have the map objectives) but it's open enough to do stuff out of order. Going into DQ1 world too was also pretty good since it's pretty much the same thing where it's just fuck it go do whatever but it's not open enough where you can potentially get lost lost. Kinda nearing the end but I might inflate my time by doing some needless grinding to make my party stronger. Can't wait for 1HD-2HD next.
>>550228267Speaking about DQ3-HD. I really like the general outline of the game but I'm a bit disappointed the end game strategy is just WILD SIDE + MONSTER PILE ON SPAM. I wish end game was a lot more flexible in how you want to break it. Does other DQ games have better build variety? The only other DQ games I've played are that characters are "fixed" so you can't really build on them or there's certain weapon types/classes that are significantly better then the alternative where you're just intentionally gimping yourself if you try one over the other.
>>550237521VI and VII are broken with certain skills and with enough grinding you can have all of your party members have access to every skill in the game, pretty sure the objective best team is to just run four Hero vocations with everything else mastered.VII is especially broken since the Sword Dance hybrid skill is very easy to learn, and deals four attacks at full damage for 0 MP. It actually steamrolls everything for free.
>>550237521>Monster Pile OnThere are stronger moves to use with Wild Side but Pile On is the one people default to since their teams are usually a random hodgepodge of stuff.
>>550240974which one. finding minmax autism online for this game is hard surprisingly.
>>550241430Where are you looking? Gamefaqs has that shit.
>>550241604which guide? most I've seen are monster pile-on spam.
>>550244934Do you do actual research or do you want someone to spoonfeed you? The message boards are always better if you want metafag shit.
>>550249001Do you have a name in here? There's always one in every general is2fg christ all mighty.
>hurr durr i cant find any meta shit>three minutes on gamefaqshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/321814-dragon-quest-iii-hd-2d-remake/81058596https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/321814-dragon-quest-iii-hd-2d-remake/81055534And i'm sure there's more out there
You got the 'tism or something?
this isn't even completely optimal wtf. you're freaking useless
If you didn't clear Zoma with three bunny girls you didn't beat the game
>>550257498Its just some retard that needs to be spoonfed on how to beat an easy game.Monster Pile On is low effortIf you want to wave your dick and smash even Xenlon on Draconian with minimum turns then you either save scum for Egg Falcon Blade Persecutter or spam Egg On Cutting Edge on a roided up beat stick.
>>550269056Bitch, I'm talking bout you!
>>550269361>spend the last few days begging for help instead of just looking it up>act like an idiot over it when you finally get one
>>550269673Holy schizomoly. Please tell me this is the only guy here that's this much of a fucking tool.
I don't know what's worse, the guy asking for meta shit or the faggot that comes in after its all over and trying to be "smug" about it.
Talking about gameplay mechanics in a game general! No, we must talk about Jessica's PUFF PUFFS.I don't mind both.
>>550271365The problem is that most DQ games dont really have any nuance outside of playing in runs that most people wont bother to do.
>>550272734min-maxing a basic game is fun and I'm just saying that there doesn't seem to be much accessible information out there for it mostly because not a lot of people are doing the min-maxing shit because of how basic DQ is.
>>550272856>min-maxing a basic game is fun for some peopleftfy
>>550272935o_O
>>550272856>>550272935Every DQ boils down to buff the hell out of your attacker while everyone else plays support.The only time you do something different is you do a fight underlevel. For example using Kaclang to make a a specific boss easier by waiting out their MP.
>>550273204>Every DQ boils down to buff the hell out of your attacker while everyone else plays support.i literally never did that
>>550275269Okay and?
This general has some autism.
>>550276293Where do you think you are?
>>5502763824chan.org/vg/thread/55043907
>>550276293t. The most autistic of all
>>550272856That's because there isn't much of a point. In DQIII HD-2D specifically, Wild Side + Monster Pile-On is the path of least resistance by being good enough to meet the turn thresholds to get all the rewards from Xenlon and Grand Dragon. There may be more specific strategies for lower turn counts, but there is functionally no recognition in-game for it to matter. The more limited documentation for optimized strategies is directly a result of that.
Can I talk about Dragon Quest in here or naw?
>>550280648>The more limited documentation for optimized strategies is directly a result of that.Wild Side + Pile On WAS the optimized strategy day 1 unless you farmed for cash to spam Call to Arms. What with melee damage getting fucked by damage formula bullshit and two of the three relevant magic shit being locked to Gadabout which no one used since they somehow made them more obnoxious.Pile On in 2025 isnt nearly as strong as it was in 2024 even before get into "optimization".
>>550286661Nope, sorry, we only talk about Monmusu Quest here.
Do people still bitch about the music in Dragon Quest? It's the one thing that deterred me from talking about the game online.
this woman is talking to a frozen jpg...
>>550290470I know the patch added variance to the number of hits, but 3 to 5 still averages out to 4 outside of bad RNG. How badly was damage itself affected? To my understanding, I thought the damage was still the same with all monsters recruited. Even if it is initially weaker before the Temple of Trials, I would imagine unlocking the Temple of Trials before Xenlon hits the 15-turn limit should still be easy enough to hit max power.
>>550297813Wild Side + Pile On (FP) averages 630 x 2 = 1260Wild Side + Kaboom + Duplic Hat (ST) = 256 x 4 x 1.3 = 1331Wild Side + Cutting Edge + Egg On = 300% Damage x 4 = 1200%Wild Side + Persecutter + Egg On = 600% Damage x 4 = 2400%Kaboom/Cutting Edge/Persecutter can then be modified by buffs/debuffs and so forth, so even if Wild Side technically has a higher peak (900 vs 720), its just outclassed if the player puts in even a minimum amount of effort into a creating a beatstick.
I wish DQ HD came with a backlog. I know there's the "memory feature" but my dumbass accidentally fat fingered. I just wanna know what the guy said a second before.
Is Scions of Erdrick a good read?
i love this lil fella why are all the best party members temporary
>>550306153Mage-chan attempting murder at the peace conference
how are people this bad?https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonquest/comments/1pnpapy/dq1_remake_is_awful/
you have to go back
persona babies play a real game for the first time
>>550323954kawaii
Moonbrooke: dogMedea: horsewhat would other DQ girls turn into
Is 7 really considered the black sheep of the franchise or is this youtube video lying to me?
>>550329756Kind of. It's not the most unusual or (IMO) the worst in the main series, but it's long and linear and the characters aren't that interesting and all that stuff at once can really wear you down.
>>550330490I heard the 3DS version improved a lot of it, but I can't confirm how true that is. I do know it's very long, and really ambitious too, right? When would you recommend someone finally play 7?
toot
>>550330850The 3DS version really isn't that different, it mainly just trims down the opening a bit and makes some changes to encounters and the job system that don't affect things much either way. I think it loses some of the PS1 version's charm, but it's fundamentally the same game.VII is one of the last DQ games I'd recommend, but there's no harm in giving it a try. Just know after you've done a couple of islands that nearly the whole game is just that, over and over, with stories of variable quality.
>>550326650dragon
>>550043907I just dropped into hell and got to tantegel, how much longer do I have in this game?
>>550330850just wait for the upcoming remake and then decide
>>550343574It's a victory lap section. It's not that long. Maybe 5-6 more hours?
>>5503297562 is clearly the black sheep
reading dai and this feels like the author just makes up shit every chapter
Daiaiai
>>550371897I found that to be kind of the fun. Just random bullshit coming constantly. Avan's manga feels a bit more structured like a Dragon Quest story, though it's still not quite there.
Ashlynn is FATMilly is a HAG
>>550326650Jade as a tiger would make sense to me.>>550338840Ashlynn's already called dibs on that.
Promo art from Nomura. Cute!
>>550380619>wait, they're doing another DLC like that Yuffie one for part 1? (Intermission)>it's actually just a portWii Wii U shit
>>550381284Yeah. They’ve been using the “Intergrade” title for the base game packaged with the DLC. So if you buy it on Steam or whatever now it’s called “Intergrade.”
I just beat DQXI, what an amazing game all around. it definitely deserves its spot as one of the best jrpgs of all timeim left speechless after 80 hours of game timeits truly quite a unique series, DQXII is gonna be an instant buy for mealso holy shit there is so much dialogue. after every single event, the whole town has different things to say... im sure that took so much time of writers and localizers, that cant be worth the money... but its so rich of details. it is appreciated
>new retarded captcha before XII
Dragonlord's great-grandson is one of my favorite characters now. He and Gwaelin were the biggest beneficiaries of the remakes.
>>550399406i actually prefer it, i zoom through the shit quick af
>>550365639Why is that?
>>550380619Soul or Kino?>>550408525Who would win.
I really wish they still just said the number of defence points you gain from buff/kabuff instead of just saying you it increases slightly or significantly.No wonder why I've felt the need to grind so much in draconian when I'm left under the impression that kabuff caps at two uses when it actually caps at like four, and the same goes for sap too.The fact that the icons for boosts don't show stacks sucks too, wish they were more transparent with how it works, you used to have messages for when stats could go any higher/lower and nowadays there's nothing.Oh my god I just realized, did XI work like this too? I had to grind to like 65 to beat act 2.
>>550415314The infinite buff/debuff stacking with no indication that you've hit a cap is an HD-2D only thing, as far as I'm aware.
I don't think I'm ready to play XI yet after erdrick. Is Builders, the musou or monsters a good game to get into next? I beat XI up to Act 2 but XI S addition of clock town is giving me the autism to play all mainline before playing XI now. I was thinking of getting into a side game or VIII. (but I don't even know PS2 vs 3DS)
>>550416240HD2D does tell you that you reach a cap because any further attempts would stop working.For example 2 uses of Buff or 4 uses of Kabuff puts you at the cap.
>>550417360>Builders, the musouBoth of those are more reliant on knowing the main games than XI is (although the Builders games are based on 1&2, so you're set).Really, there's no harm in playing whatever. Add Rocket Slime to your list too, it's cute and short.
>>550418029Thanks! Really just looking more for a palette cleanser while not losing steam for this marathon. Starting to get a little worn out on >attack >attack >attack >attack
>>550417991I'm not so sure about that, because I beat the Brute Bat having Cannock use Kabuff every second turn and I never got any messages about not working anymore.Unless.. Hey do stacks expire after a turn?
>>550420035I've never seen it either. I think anon's hallucinating. It obviously doesn't actually stack forever, but there's no message telling you when you've hit the limit.
>>550326650>Bianca, JadeCat>Nera, AisheDog>Alena, MillyHorse>Debora, VeronicaPig>JessicaCow>MayaSkink>SerenaRabbit>AshlynnWeasel>MaribelSkunk
>>550420035>>550427174Kabuff = +1Buff = +2Gold Bracer (the tombola reward) increases the stack count by +1You cant go beyond +4.That's why Gold Bracer + Kabuff can allow you to use Midenhall's Egg On SUS on Turn 1 where as regular Kabuff would fail because the game only counts it if he's at +2 on higher.Now, while we're on the note of Gold Bracer + Kabuff, if you do something like have both Cannocks cast Kabuff on Turn 1 and attempt to do it again on Turn 2, the game will tell you that whoever has the Gold Bracer on can't raise their defense anymore from either attempt. I believe each individual stack has its own duration as well, because after a while you'll notice that your defenses are dropping even though your characters have multiple castings of buff/kabuff on.
>>550371897but thats what makes it a classic
>larian using gen ai for divinity before dragon quest 12>redditors defending gen ai before dragon quest 12
>>550447568all it takes is a happy chungus dev to do something for them to then love it
>>550432906Why a cat for Bianca? Jade I see because she’s pretty aloof, but Bianca doesn’t have many qualities I’d associate with a cat.
>>550409117my issue is that it won't let me post, otherwise ye it's easier to complete
>>550447568it's only a matter of time before companies finally start being open about it, until they don't even need to say it anymoreand that's a good thing, whatever the ai is doing was done by random unpaid pajeets before, or was being handled by some other framework anyway, the main thing is that nothing changes for us and the end product is still good. I don't care how something is made as long as it's good
DQ1 HD is so weird to me. You think "remaking" this game would be simple but I like this a lot less than 3HD even though DQ1 (snes) was a fun experience. It feels a lot more bloated, the open-endedness of the game is also a lot worse, the combat is annoying since you have to rely on Cop Out (heh) a lot more. You can't even really grind in areas you're not suppose to "be in" yet because RNG can just fuck your asshole with bad enemy spawns (3 separate enemies or fuck it one of them just desperate hits you and gg). Even if you do XP gain is kinda ass. Some of the added scenes just felt unnecessary and I think they "abused" the cutscenes when most of them should've been a simple just go up to NPC and talk to them. Feels like it really missed the mark.
>>550464506Just leaving with this, but it does feel like 3HD is like the only remake game I played where one can argue it's literally the definitive option to playing it. 1HD feels like the typical gaming remake that I'm kinda like pros and cons between playing the original and 1HD. I wonder how I'm going to feel about 2HD.
>>550464609DQII is better, if only because it lends itself better to cutscenes with a talking party. For the most part, I feel the story additions work in its favor once you reach their conclusions. They stick out a little at first, but that might just be because I was used to the original experience. My biggest gripe is the party starts to repeat themselves constantly about the power of teamwork which can drag on cutscenes unnecessarily.
I think what they should've done is fix the maping/level scaling a little so you can still explore the world to make it a bit more open, and move ALL of the princess raura scenes onto her own "route" (aka if you keep the princess with you) and visit areas for optional flashbacks.
i'm kinda playing DQIX
>>550464506>>550464609>>550465868DQ1 HD is a game that's entirely about exploring the various zones to find the specific gear needed to counter the encounter and then build accordingly.Cop Out can serve as an out for physically oriented enemies but its utterly useless for others. Hell, even Dodgy Dance + Evasion Gear can substitute for those battles as well, especially on hybrid enemies.I also notice that enemies tend to be a bit more pattern oriented than usual, with enemies like Spiketail and Dragonlord epitomizing that type of battle. If you love to do solo runs in other games, you'll love this one.DQ2/3 HD are more normal jrpg experiences, so its easier for many people to enjoy and appreciate.
>>550473403I just feel like DQ1 if you wanna go around the world fuck around wherever, go for it the world is your oyster. If you do the same in HD it's just "lol here's an enemy that one shots you go fuck yourself" and XP gain is so slow that you can't even outgrind yourself to be in areas you shouldn't be in. I do get what you're saying with the puzzle bosses but it does feel bad when it does feel like the "RNG" method is the intended method to beat the boss. (Cop Out / Dodgy Dance + Evasion). As I said I like being able to outgrind and go back to previous required areas to wreck their shit and you can't really do that here. Just a different approach I guess but it's weird when original lets you do this but remake is like "hell naw bro, our rules." The added bloat of the story cutscenes felt unnecessary too. A lot of these don't have to be voice acted dramatic moments. DQ3 HD had them on fitting parts which I really liked as in your mom hugging you or your dad's fight. DQ1 just feels like they throw these voiced cutscenes freaking everywhere.
>>550473736Midgame is the roughest part of HD. But you can sequence break a bit.
>>550475170It's just weird since 3 remake didn't change so you were railroaded but for some reason 1 is like this. I'm around the faerie forest boss and I'm a little annoyed at how it feels I'm still under leveled despite me doing things in a way different order then intended (went to craggly first, cleared that then moved to the east side of the map, got a few stuff from medal place but I still feel "underpowered" as fuck). I get the intended way to beat this boss is just cop out + dodgy dance or something but FUCK let me just unga bunga damn.
>>550476035>just let me unga bungaTurn down the difficulty and grind.>intended stratThere's usually multiple outs. I beat the no magic allowed skeleton by blasting him with magic anyway.
>>550476585>Turn down the difficulty and grind.muh autism PRIDE
>>550460543im not spending 70 dollars on something that isnt 100% human made. 30 dollars tops
>>5504645063hd is the definitive to me, 1hd is a side grade and 2hd is worse to me since it feels bloated and it overcomplicates things that were simpler before. i also dont think any of the personalities are anything like i would have imagined and it really tries to shove "wait we are different because we are together!" down your throat and its eye roll inducing.
>>550479446I'm surprised, I was looking forward to 2HD since I don't have much fond memories of 2 OG. OH MY FUCKING GOD STUPID CANNOCK WHY'D YOU GET SICK NOW WE GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE BRO. But with it being pretty barebones, I'd assume it would just be better than OG since it's a lot more "story focused" than 1 is. 1 I was expecting not cutscene bazonga but 2 I'm more accepting of it.
>>550479279you say that as if human made is any guarantee of qualityor as if a videogame should cost 70 dollars
>>550480132The town stories and villain-related cutscenes in 2 HD are mostly pretty good, but the party are weak characters and they constantly stop and yap about nothing important. You get the generic power of teamwork stuff like 40 times. By contrast, even though I thought 1 HD had too many cutscenes I ended up liking them quite a bit, especially after picking up Gwaelin.2 is a lot more fun to play, though. 4 characters with way more spells and abilities than you could conveniently get in 3, and it's drowning in new bosses.
>>550479446>2HD is worse to meYou are probably the only person that I know of who feels that way
>play on "hard mode">start whining that its too hardEvery single time.
I see that argument a lot and having a hard mode that's "badly" balanced isn't really the pwn you're going for. I think we're all mature enough to note that Hard Mode should be "hard" but not for RNG purposes.
>>550482243>badly balancedHow many instances is it a case of actual bad balance and not a skill issue on the players end from lack of preparation/unwillingness to try something different?
>>550482871I mean you played the game too have you not? I think it's safe to say that DQ1 HD does have it's tendency to have boss battles where "fuck it roll of the dice" to see if RNG beats your ass or not. Is there cheese strats like Cop Out and Dodgy Dance? Yeah. Can you still get absolutely fucked because RNG just said nah not today senpai. Yeah. I don't know why people are so quick to dismiss criticism of difficulty with this. Hard mode doesn't have to be so RNG based.
>>550481568Maybe because im an actual fan of 2? Idk most of the praise ive seen is from people that never liked the games so as someone that does maybe im more critical on its changes and its character assassinations
>>550483064There are only two bosses that I felt were complete horseshit, Knight Aberrant and the Dragon Zombies near the end.Some cases, I found it was easier to just ignore Cop Out and go all out on the offensive because killing the enemies outright was preferable over trying to stall out die.For example, there was a group fight where I just did Wild Side > Divide > Demon Demeaner's SUS Quadraslash which just blew everything up at once.
>>550483664I know what you mean. I barely see any video reviews or reviews in general trying to compare OG DQ1 and DQ1 Remake other then "changes good". It feels like a lot of people are pretty shallow in analyzing old games vs remakes now.
>>550483940>It feels like a lot of people are pretty shallow in analyzing old games vs remakes nowhas cutscene = more bettaaaa!!! is basically what it is now. I think most the additions take away the appeal of 1 which are its easy pick up and play and replay ability because of its openness but that the Gwaelin additions are very good and will be missed when going back to previous versions. Same thing with 2 it just doesnt feel as open since getting certain items is now connected to side quests with a shit ton of cutscenes. Its so strange that they had a good balance in 3 and it never felt intrusive to me unlike in 1&2
>>550484775If anything, I felt the cutscenes in 3 were more annoying, mainly those recapping Ortega's journey. It was better when we got the whole thing shown before the title screen and the game left you to follow his trail yourself.
>>550484775Nah, 2HD's cutscenes were better than them wanking Ortega for the 10th time.
>>550043907What is the best dq gameI don't have the desire to try them all.
>>550493017dragon quest builders 2
>>550493017Dragging your quest on your mom.
>>5504930173
I can't tell if I recommend watching DQ V movie at all. The twist is...whatever but I've seen offensively worse video game movies that people recommend watching because why not. cough cough AC. cough cough.
>>550495946The twist isn't even close to the worst thing about it. V is just a terrible game try to turn into a movie, and they didn't even make a decent attempt. The overture montage is the only good part.
>>550496342honestly the only punchline i really like in the movie was "this time I'm going to pick Nera!" "picks bianca"
>>550489481And they didn't even let Ortega keep his magic. Were they really that determined to show why Midenhall is such an UNGA BUNGA?
>>550448807
>>55049301711 if you want something modern, 3 if you enjoy retro games.
>>550496342If V got adapted in the 90s as an OVA it would be kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQTn1QxCZ2s
>>550503149Is the HD2D version of 3 recommended over the original?
>>550506714Bit contentious but I'd personally lean towards yes, especially if you don't mind the visual style. The addition of skills for every class makes combat way more engaging and the new boss battles are a lot of fun. The originals have much more interesting dungeon crawling though because of the heal on level up and limited inventory space, so it's a bit of a tradeoff.
>>550507726I thought Dying Fire was dogshit.
>>550508969I initially wrote (Except THAT one) in my post then re-wrote that part and forgot to add it in. Yes, that is an absolute cunt of a fight.
>>550506714The customization alone makes it the better one for role playing imo
>>550510161HD2D's way of handling ailments is ass too.>Draconian reduces infliction rate>Enemies in HD purge ailments faster and probably have accumulative resistances at that>So you can spend 5+ turns trying to status an enemy only for it to wear off right away
>>550511482not that it makes much difference, played it on normal and enemies still did that anyway. Bosses with multiple turns were losing ailments the same turn they got them, straight up stopped even trying cause what's the point theni really don't get when rpgs do this shit
>>550393160Nice picture
Act 3 is the best.
>>550482243I would expect the hard mode of an RPG to require grinding unless you get really lucky, especially for DQ which is a pretty standard system and not something abusable with clever planning like SMT/Persona.Personally I prefer it this way for DQ too cause I've always felt that grinding was a core part of DQ.
>get gold claw>encounter rate increases>in a way, get more exp than usual because playing on Draconian>realize I may as well just be playing on Dragon with a different weapon insteadI'm a fool, a FOOL
>>550533656You dont really need to grind on Draconian. I remember people claiming that you had to be at 32 for Multiheal for Belial 1 but I did it at ~28 because Forbearance + magic resist gear was enough.
Any DQX players in here? I'm curious if the combat ever becomes somewhat in-depth outside of endgame superbosses. I'm only to the end of 2.0 so not close to caught up, but so far the bosses and general combat encounters are considerably simpler than even a typical DQ game because there isn't even the added complexity of controlling multiple party members yourself.
Kazing!
Kerplunkle
>>550530335
>trails in the sky sc remake before dragon quest 12
Bianca: Obsessive creepDebora: Slave DriverNera: Sexual DeviantFive had no good options
You guys remember playing tactYou guys remember the guildYou guys remember the new drops
>>550560814Back scratches are the most vanilla of sexual deviancy. Do you have any concrete evidence of Nera being into TRUE sexual deviancy?
>>550560814Imagine not being able to satisfy your sexually deviant wife
big news
How can DQ12 top this JRPG masterpiece?
>>550567186Don't do a time travelling plot
>>550567186Focus on putting their vision into the game, instead of cucking out and only having portions of what was planned in it, or make it clearer what happened instead of talking about shit in interviews post-release.Should've made it clearer that the Hero went back to the day before his journey started and then re-lived the entire story up until Arboria instead of mentioning this in some interview.Should've made it clearer that the characters retain their memory instead of saying this on this Square Enix post-release live stream, where they answered player questions.
>>550560350i actually didn't expect them to make one a year, pretty cool if they keep it up
>>550567186Where did that photo come from? Is it from the game?
>>550575569art book
>>550576504got it
>>550575242FC/SC/3rd share a lot of assets, so once they made Sky 1st, it would be trivial for them to make 2nd.
Would people seethe if DQ12 completely changed the setting to something not fantasy?
>>550585148Maybe in Japan.
>DQ9>higher level character gets a bigger cut of the shared xp
>>550595553On paper its suppposed to prevent your friend from carrying you and maintain a relatively even level curve but in reality its just annoying.
Best DQ villain? I swear if the next dai episode has yet another villain that misunderstood something and then turned good then "dies" then comes back 10 episodes later im going to freaking freak.
>>550567186By not being the most railroaded, casualized experience in the series. But if the changes in the HD2D remakes are anything to go off, they'll be doubling down more than anything.
>>550599894>cue legions of players bitching about a number of bosses in 1/2 HD being too hard
If you could design and add new items to a Dragon Quest Mainline game, what would you add?Can be Useables, Equipment, Accessories, battle-only, field-only, etc.
>>550585148I might. Nothing wrong with blending genres, but save that shit for a spinoff. Unless it's another game with time travel, in which case I actively want them to show different levels of technology for once instead of past and future being identical.>>550603419I just want a character to use crossbows.
>>550599894Railroaded for sure, but Draconian Quests do absolutely make the games harder. An All Draconian run of DQXI S is still probably the most masochistic playthrough in the series. DQIII Draconian was a bit on the weaker end, but DQI+II Draconian runs were tough as nails. Removing HP/MP recovery on level up was finally implemented, too, so they are clearly listening to feedback.
>>550604002anon your chrono trigger??
>have a massive headache and sick with pnemonia>get magic key in 2HD>can barely remember all the specific spots I saw blue chests/doors over the course of my 40 hours of play time>90% of the contents are tombola tickets and weak and outdated equipmentWhy did they bloat these games with so many crappy locked chests in HD?
>>550615330Forgot to type the greentext that I just looked up the chests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I3Cf-955FI
>wake up>start greentexting>it ultimately boils down to old good, new bad>move along with my day
>>550615330>he wasn't writing that shit downDo you even oldschool gaming?
>>550629981bravissimo Anon
>>550631927Usually I can just remember where all the chests I saw were. There's just an absurd number in 2HD and most of the rewards aren't very worthy of being in locked chests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VvyMmb-dGMnew dunkey
>>550643474First of all. What the fuck happened to his voice? He used to be way more obnoxious.Secondly, I was expecting some switch-up given his history with turn-based RPGs and ESPECIALLY his dogshit DQXI video, so it just being actual praise the whole time was surprising.
>>550643474not gonna watch the "all anime and all jrpgs suck lole" guy
>>550643474Didn't it turn out that this guy's a giga retard whose wife has to wipe his ass and stuff
>>550647198Not that I'm aware of, but that's pretty funny so from now on I'm going to repeat it as if it were true
>>550643474why does he sound more black these days?
>>550643474So is the joke supposed to be on people that act like liking turn based games makes you more intelligent and sophisticated or was the joke just him making funny voice?
>>550647198The rumor is that him and his wife filmed cuck porn
>>550649473I peeked at the comments and apparently he's been generally turning around on DQ and turn-based games as whole.
Do the dog/cat suits in hd2d do anything special, or just an aesthetic thing?>>550615330The magic chests are a bit eh, for the most part
>enter the southern seabed storeroom in 2HD>screen is constantly flickering black every 0.5-1.5 seconds and objects lficker in and outWow! WOW! the Switch does NOT like this area holy shit. How has this not been patched yet?
IMPORTANT VIDEO https://youtu.be/9VvyMmb-dGM
Oh boy, I wonder what the thread was just talking about a couple of posts ago
>>550663551Keep posting it.
Alright, Dunkey, we get it, you think Roto looks like Goku.
>>550560350What's next? A Xenosaga revival? Fat chance lol
What will Dragon Quest XIII even look like?
>>550665261how would you feel if it looked like final fantasy versus 13 how much would japan riot?
>>550665352I'd be scared but i do hope it plays simple and fun.
Like FFXIII, it should also have a terminally autistic female protagonist
>>550665491VERSUS 13 YOU DUMBASS
>>550666220Like FFXIII, /dqg/ also has a terminal autist (probably not female)
>>550663551I already posted it >>550643474
Ah, a Steam Sale. Time to pick up Heroes I and II and a hefty discount
>>550669104Those two weren't on sale
>>550669396They never are...
ogre sex
hero's mom sex
hargon sex?
Chalky sex
Chalky's daughter sex
Sandy marriage
Sandy is on the short list of DQ characters who definitely had sex during the course of a game's story
Sandy is top 10 worst females of the fairy variety
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlpHjpCjwoI&pp=0gcJCTwKAYcqIYzv
>>550643474he already did a video on dq3, why did he make another one. also why not about dq1-2? weird
>>550604002>I just want a character to use crossbows.Sounds doable, I can add that.
>>550664910
One thing I've wanted for decades that I believe AI should be used for is having your Hero's name actually spoken in cutscenes, instead of characters awkwardly avoiding ever saying your name or always putting it at the start/end of their sentences
>>550691745sex with dragonlord
>>550721502you're pretty funny aren't you
>>550724596my sex has single handedly saved the general like 3 times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzQN2DH8oHE
>>550724596Hey, his great-grandson had to come from somewhere.
the Ashlynnlord
>>550725540
>>550725540the voice actors seem to really enjoy doing work for dragon quest. even as far back as 8.
>>550739785Warrior Maribel...
https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonquest/comments/1pp36qm/hot_take_i_like_the_plot_twist_of_dragon_quest/were they right?
what's the game, mainline or spinoff, with the most autism numbers going up vocation system?
>>550746663>mainlineIX>spinoffNot a vocation system but DQM is on another level
>>550746747>>550746830why'd you ignore me bitch
page 10 sex
page 1 sex
>>550746747anal
>>550759216Nera and Serena are the designated anal girls.
>>550740328>to make one thing clear I never actually played the dragon quest gamesI used to think the bitter hatred most anons harbored for r*dditors was a bit irrational. Now I see that not only is the hatred completely justified but that we don’t hate them nearly as much as we should.
>>550585148I’d expect there to be at least one autistic psychopath who’d try to fire bomb SE HQ or assassinate Horii.
>>550761961Midenhall didn't learn Puff-Puff for nothing.
>>550736340Kek they’ve got to be in on the joke at this point.
I thought I was decently doing okay but holy fuck i failed the faerie village boss like a shit ton of times and I can't fucking find anywhere to grind. how in the fuck? I have like 200 def. why are they all hitting me like bricks? 20 with the boss each is reasonable but 30-50 at 200 with 5 enemies is BULLSHIT
>>550795867Just use Cop Out. The whole game pretty much expects you to spam it.
>>550795867metal slimes spawn in front of the place you exchange mini medals
>Dragon Quest XII might have full data on the cartridge after the fall out demand over game key cards
>more switch 2 cartridge sizes before dragon quest 12
>>550795867Dont you have access to SUS moves by now? Just use Wild Side + Pearly Gates/Quadraslash.Grinding is never the answer lol.
>>550801394look at her go
Stewed up skills would be better. You could do those at full HP without any nonsense.
>>550805093You can use souped up skills at full hp though
Everyone pack it up, the game's over.
>>550804819If I remember, he's talking about the Knight/Dark Skeleton mob, and you don't have SUSs yet for that. It's pretty much designed to only be won with Cop Out.
>>550830827Its not really that useful on her at that level.
>>550619675So did anything important come out of this? I wasn't able to sit and watch.
>>550834313Wild Side > Cleaner Sweep was outdamaging a similarly buffed Midenhall so I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.
>>550838884When does she get Cleaner Sweep?
>>550844670Tower of the Moon in a chest.My strat>Turn 1Moonbrooke: Reheal Cannock MCannock F: Buff Midenhall (Kabuff works if you have the Gold Bracer)Cannock M: Kabuff > Brownie BoostMidenhall: Egg On > Gritty Ditty>Turn 2Moonbrooke: Wild SideCannock M: Oomph Powder or HealCannock F: Oomph Powder or Sap (make the necessary adjustment)Midenhall: Egg On Moonbrooke>Turn 3Moonbrooke: Hypnowhip > Cleaner SweepSomeone eggs on MoonbrookeCannock M focuses on healingLast person has it free.
>>550847246>Tower of the Moon in a chest.Oh, I haven't been there yet. My Moonbrooke is nearing level 37 as I'm still exploring the ocean floor.
>>550848535>37Wild Side > Kaboom SUS. Have fun.
>>550852398I don't have the soul sigil yet, so I can't do the SUS.
>>550854609>37>No Soul Sigil yetAnon...
>>550856020Not my fault all the encounters underwater give 600-1300 exp to each party member.People were hitting 35 when I was going through the mermaid sanctuary.
>>550822840giwtwm
>>550877127Cute.
>>550899842Hargon, your tree has holes in it.
Hargon is truly the Charlie Brown of Dragon Quest
Merry Christmas, Hargon Brown!
>>550795867bump >>550797871it's still rng it's gay as fuck>>550798890okay i leveled up like 3 more levels and I'm still getting pounded....>>550804819okay let me time travel to the future
>>550902973grind like 10 levels with metal slimes, who just grinds 3? you silly goose.
>>550901062Still a better parent than Ashlynn. He didn’t teach his child to hate. Just that he was innately superior to every other being in Alefgard (and he was almost right in that regard).
>>550833359If they're in a group then you can use a Coagulant and fish for confuse. If he's on Draconian then its a massive coinflip but a certain fight later on basically pushes you towards confuse fishing to win anyway.>>550903354>>550902973If its a Cop Out bot fight then grinding that much is pointless. You just need enough HP/Def to not get three shot and then all you do after that is spam Cop Out like an idiot until you win. You should also have access to evasion up gear by this point, so equipping those over raw def gear would be a good idea.
A lot of people seem surprised to learn that Cannock can wear cursed equipment for free after Beran, but the game outright tells you this is the case in Tantagel.I guess most people forgot by the time they finish Beran.
>>550904612I wish he was also able to take it off for free
>>550904695Yeah that's the one gripe I have with it. For having overcome "a curse most foul it rendered curses as a whole unwilling to touch him" they sure do want to cling to him.
Oh boy, time for my monthly ‘Did anyone ever figure out the mechanics of Cunnock’s sickle steal? How can I improve its odds of success?’ post!
>>550904612I would have never guess that was a thing. I remember the book in Tantegel, but I thought nothing of it and figured it was just someone going on a fruitless endeavor. I could have found it after Beran and still would not have thought it to mean that, like I don't even see how I'm supposed to associate the curse Cannock got afflicted with with equipment curses, one is deadly and near incurable while the other can be removed by any church.
>>550906620Also why would I assume it'd make him immune to curses anyways? If you survive a gunshot you don't become immune to guns. I really don't get the logic behind this mechanic.
like damn bro. am i the only one that thinks dragonic difficulty in dq1 is a little....much? finally beat that son of a bitch wave boss only to get to green dragon and holy fuck how much health does this bitch have? everyone's recommending to get the "claws" but that shit is 18k..... did everyone online just play on dragon quest or something?
>>550906746>>550906620It's not just the book. It's the Curse Researcher downstairs in the same building.-The book is a journal of someone who was trying to use cursed armor, and the only answer he could get was to overcome a curse to become immune to them. But he thought that impossible.-The Curse Researcher says that Cannock overcame a nasty curse, and became immune.It's not exactly outright telling you like Anon said, it requires the player to put two and two together, but it's very heavy handed.The main problem is like Anon said: most people would go through Alefgard first as soon as they get the boat. By the time they've been through Beran, there wouldn't really be a reason to go back to Tantagel and talk to the Curse Researcher again to get the second half of the hint. Plus most people would've long forgotten about the book, too. I'm not sure Cannock's illness is even referred to as a curse. So there's that too, if I'm not mistaken.
>>550907452You shouldn't be focusing entirely on Def value. Get some fire resist gear, and you'll be surprised at how easy the Green Dragon becomes. And yes, I am talking about Draconian difficulty. The claws are helpful in their own way, but not as valuable as fire resistance.
>>550907830his breathe attacks and fucking me over. it's the physical attacks + running out of mana that screws me
>>550907452Wear breath resistant armor so that his breath attacks only deal like 7 damage, then use the faerie foil to keep your physical defence buffed so you can survive his physical attacks as you slowly chip him down. Use reheal as well since its MP efficient and you actively gain a little HP during the turns he breathes fire.
>>550908091Use focus pocus to get MP back.Bosses like to heat up like in Dark Souls at low HP so take the beginning of the fight slow and steady, use faerie foil and reheal to keep your HP stable (use a stronger heal if you get critted) and keep focus pocus up so you stay at near full MP. Yes its slow and you don't get to attack often, but it betters your odds when shit hits the fan at half HP, since you'll be near full on MP.
>>550905696I guess not :(
>>550916260Sorry, I've never once stolen in DQ. I use up all my thief autism energy in FF
>>550908732you don't get it till after.gawd damn though I mean I'll take it slower but jesus dq1 draconic is some next level of demonic that im genuinely surprised nobody's calling "wtf is this" online.
>>550917596There are more people than you think calling that.
>>550918169a lot of people seem to be playing on dracky (why, like seriously why?) or dragon quest. for this game though I can understand dipping because holy fuck that difficulty bump mid game is awful
Hey anons, sorry if it has been asked with the steam sale and all going on, but... I'm a retard newfag that wants to get into DQ, should I go HD-2D Trilogy then 4 to 11? Or do you recommend I play the originals (recommended in OP), then play the Trilogy at the very end? What do you veteran anons recommend?
>>550907452>>550918383>>550917596You're not really expected to win on your first try (and this goes for a lot of bosses). Fight the boss, get a feel of their pattern and then modify your strategy accordingly.For the green dragon in particular, the best setup is stacking as much fire resistance as possible (use the Tectonic Plate you get in the Dwarf place for complete breath immunity) and if you farmed for it, the dragon claws, so you dont need to spend MP on a decent damage move. Cop Out or Defend on the turns where he uses physical moves, heal up or attack when you expect him to use a breath attack. Dont be afraid to use items like the Oomph Powder or Magic Water either.By the way Reheal is the requirement to use the defensive souped up skills and the buff based ones like Wild Side > Divide. You probably dont have Demon Demeaner from Damdara at this point but if you do, consider stacking as much MP Reduction as possible and on a safe turn do something like Wild Side > Divide > Quadraslash, even a single one of those does massive amounts of damage for a very long time.
>>550905696The success rate is ass and there's nothing to buff it. Have fun spending hours trying to steal the War Drum from Rockbombs.
>>550920614It's not that important where you start. If you care about the experience of seeing the series and genre evolve then definitely play the originals first (or much more faithful earlier remakes). The HD-2D versions are good, but I+II especially are so different from the originals that you're not getting the same experience.If you just want to play a good game and you don't care about any of that then I'd recommend XI or something to start, maybe emulate IV or VIII or the SNES version of III. No need to rush in and pay for the newest priciest thing.
By the way, if you havent done so already, go get the Sunstone before beating the Green Dragon. 1HD is infinitely more fun with the Princess around.
>>550920614the OP is outdated. you can go 2, 4, 5. for story driven games or 3, 6, 9 for gameplay driven games. 7, 8 and 11 are good but really long so not always recomended for beginers.
there's no response, it's just a corpse...
>>550896554
>>550938385Of course Rab's got a naughty rag in his bag.
>>550808929I love my big sister wife
>>550921230already done so>>550920919i guess but that felt obnoxiously RNG rather than "yeah I got a good strat!" I hope DQ2 doesn't feel this way because DQ3 felt perfect where yeah I can strategize or I can grind to beat the boss. DQ1 feels like "yo did you spam the rng moves? did you get good rng? no? okay EAT SHIT" actually green dragon was pretty easy but slow as fuck since I just attacked instead of using dragon slash + wild side.... so I had mana to just re-heal/heal
>>550961371DQ2 felt even better than 3 to me in that regard because the skills that were spread across 8 vocations are condensed into 4 characters so you have a shit ton of options around the mid point.
>>550961371Yeah, it's a specific problem to DQ1. DQ2 on Draconian is still tougher than DQ3 but it never gets silly.
>>5509613711HD is very precisely fine tuned, but its likely that they tuned it for Dragon and not Draconian as most hard modes in this genre are an afterthought (lmao less exp and money earned with stronger enemies). So while Cop Out is a perfectly viable strategy, it doesnt feel "skillful" which is why you hate it so much.I'd just dump every seed I can get into Solo if you havent done so already.
>>550978980>I'd just dump every seed I can get into Solo if you havent done so already.Why would you ever not do that?
>>550970913Action economy kills experimentation in 1HD especially when buff/debuff duration are inconsistent because its DQ. The midgame is especially bad for this.
>>550979128I beat DQ1 HD on Draconian while barely using seeds because I forgot about them. Golem/Dragon Zombies/Aberrant were horrible bosses as a result.
>>550979128NTA but I never use stat boosters until the final boss in any RPG I play, unless it has limited invetory.This is because I don't want to gove one to the wrong person, and I won't be really sure until I'm at the end, but this has become such a habit that even in DQ1HD I did the same thing despite only having one guy, because that's just how I do it now.
still don't get why they never ported IX to phones
>DQ: Dai gets completed>DQ: Dai anime gets a remake>DQ: Dai Avan is still getting chapters>Beet The Vandel Buster still under hiatushelloooooo? yo how the fuck has this thing not got cancelled yet? It's not even that long before it got to hiatus. Dai has like 300+ chapters, this shit has 80 before it went through hiatus hell. Is the anime worth watching since it has an anime original ending?
>>550856020I just got the soul sigil, and I think 37 was a good level for that, Cannock's kazap helped a good bit to try and clear the enemies quickly so Midenhall could deal a mustered multifist straight to her face. Moonbrooke didn't really get to do anything other than heal and buff.
>>551009152I beat her at like 33 on Draconian. The fight is just spam your best full screen move at all times to to clear the adds and then your best DPS can whittle her down. If anything, Moonbrooke at 37 should shine in that fight since you can spam Wild Side + her strongest aoe spells.
>>551011467Spamming spells is really bad in the fight though cause Mariella always casts bounce on herself, I only used Kazap a couple times in the rare instance where she was open. Moonbrooke is also just very stuck as a support since she's the only person with Multiheal, Oomph, and Magic Barrier, she usually just does not have the luxury to be able to attack in boss fights.
Sigil system sucks
yo fuck it im just going to say that every fucking boss since faerie village has got me tweaking. can this game give me a fucking break holy.>another boss where you have to pray to RNG jesus for cop out
>>551026939cop out is strong, but it isn't the end all be all.
>>551014625>Mariella always casts BounceYou're probably taking too long to clear the adds. The knights will always use Forbearance, so a well placed Kazap/Kaboom/Kacrackle will severely injure if not outright one shot them. Or at lower levels, then Cannock can contribute with Multislice.This causes her AI to blow more turns resummoning instead of doing whatever.>Moonbrooke doesnt have time to attack in bossesIts easy to get a billion copies of Oomph Powder from Tombola (plus you want to get 3 copies of the half MP item from Dirkandor anyway) and you're at the point where you most likely have the sigil that turns it into AoE on use.Magic Barrier is a fire once and forget for a few turns.You shouldnt need to be using Multiheal that often if you're on the ball with buffs/resistance gear. Not to mention that Cannock's the one with Omniheal for panic healing.
>>551026939Only like three bosses post faerie village get any real mileage out of cop out, one of them being optional and the other two being a LONG while off.I hope you arent trying to Cop Out the clouds instead of using Skysplitter or something.
>>551028475If we're talking the second fight, I just used Magic Burst out the gate with Soul Asylum to block her counter MB. She spent the rest of the fight mostly just trying to regain MP.
>>551033321He mentioned that he just got the Soul Sigil so its the 1st one.Everything post sigil is can be solved with the usual Gritty Ditty + Oomph + Muster Strength/Egg On Combo all you do is just change whoever you want to be your primary DPS.
>>551028475>You're probably taking too long to clear the adds.It took me a while to clear the adds each time, they have so much HP, and Mariella would cast bounce on the turn immediately after summoning them. I think the fight took me like 25-30 minutes overall.As for MP reduction I only have the mad cap right now, and the sigil that buffs items is the last one I'm missing.>You shouldnt need to be using Multiheal that often if you're on the ball with buffs/resistance gear. I needed to use it fairly often, I got wiped once by thinking I could just wait out one more turn before healing since the buffs were keeping damage low, then Midenhall died to a crit and everything quickly fell apart.>Not to mention that Cannock's the one with Omniheal for panic healing.Whenever he learns that, that'll be nice.
>>551023150true but defending for MP is neat
>>551021947Green dragon has the best design of any dragon in the entire series.
Merry Christmas! I just got married. Going to honeymoon in not-Hawaii.
>>551023150SUS is better than Pep and Tension.
DQ9, i can change vocations now but i feel like it's too early to do it, am i wrong? None of my characters are even lv 20 yet, and i feel like minstrel in particular is the kind of "do almost everything" vocation i can keep for a long whilepic related is my party, minstrel (MC duh), Martial artist, warrior and priest
>>551065125You can change whenever you want, just be prepared to farm metal slimes lol
>>551028836>>551027610i was stupid golem needed to spam flute i forgot. i was tweaking and getting risky and spamming the fuck outta cop out even during his buffed rounds. surprisingly got lucky with spiketail but holy hecky moly is this the last boss where it's just kill the boss slowly. going full faerie foid -> focus pocus -> reheal -> fancy footwork -> attack -> faerie foid -> focus pocus -> reheal -> attack is such cringe and degenerate. all these online discussion saying to abuse sigil is like whaaat lmao. the moment you get under half, you risk getting fucking CRIT DEATH. they gotta just be playing on dragon mode which sucks man, all these people saying DQ1 is easy peasy and then you find out they're playing on dracky or dragon is retarded.
>>551077127Focus pocus activates the sigil requirements instead of having to be under 50% HP.The game, for whatever retarded reason, does not ever tell you this, instead you get a tip about it if you load your save file AFTER beating the Dragonlord and watching the credits.
>>551077127Reheal/Focus removes the HP requirement. Spiketail is also a resist stacking fight once you realize he's insanely scripted. So you can get away with Reheal Wild Side Divide Attack (Swallowtail)/Quadraslash.
>>551080730>>551083458..........what the fuck
>>551085404The game literally tells you that there's more than one way to trigger a souped up skill.50% at the start of the turnUnder the effect of a specific buffIn the middle of the attack phase (eg the enemy hits you to under 50% HP during the turn and you hold the trigger button)
>>551085404but just thinking wouldn't the MP cost fuck you over unless there's some super duper focus pocus or you just chill tf out and wait for focus pocus. I'll have to try this out reee this game man
>>551086391>Mad Cap>Glombo-75% MP Cost...
>>551086452ah. wow this game is more autistic then i thought.
>>551086583Why aren't you carrying whatever pieces of gear that look remotely useful in your inventory at all time? You have like 20 slots. I think I see what your "problem" is now.
>>551087180I think I see "your" problem now. I've met you before. This isn't our first rodeo dick
>>551087805>>551086583>>551086391>>551087180You have the ability to change your gear mid battle for the last however many DQ games. Its just that most of them are easy and so you never had a reason to give a fuck about that ability.No need to get all butthurt or smarmy over it.
>>551077127>everyone must be playing on an easier difficultyI'm pretty sure almost everyone in this general played on Draconian. The midgame was annoying on some fights but the bosses were generally easier than the randoms. What exactly are you struggling with.
>>551091638I'm talking about mostly online on other "forums" that say "DQ1 wasn't that hard" when people say DQ1HD was hard. >>551089927Yeah, this guy is always like this especially when I mentioned before that it's hard to get this type of info online since most people are playing on 'Dragon' Quest. I'm just saying some of this stuff is kinda BS which is whatever but just gotta learn one way or another.
>>551091790>Its hard to get info on DQReally? 3 is pretty well researched for all the versions and it didnt take too much digging to get decent advice for 3HD on Gamefaqs/Reddit.8 has a pinned build guideAnd most of the strategies for 1HD work on every mode. You just end up playing more defensively or relying on fixed damage sources in Draconian due to being permanently underlevel.Etc
>>551092450Idk, most information I can find on 3 is "have u tried wild side + monster pile on???" 1HD is just more of "idk have you tried faerie foil + wild side + sigil moves???" (again because it seems like everyone online in these games play on dragon quest because they're an old boomer with "jobs" and "kids")
>>551092849>google dqhd souped up moves>the first link is a reddit link with every souped up move and their requirementsI think if you google the specific boss there might be decent advice as well.
this game piss me off so much im going to say yes to dragonlord and just play builders instead. alfegard can go fuck itself.
don't get me wrong, I actually don't mind sugiyama but the last DQ game I played was 11 and playing 3, 1, 2 and hearing the same songs over and over and over again (I know why but STILL). holy freaking hell
i know i know, i ended up just duplihatting him + fucking SUPER KASIZZ his ass but I just found looking how to fuck this guy up and saw this gem of a guide.
>>551104862>english ai generated wikisIts amazing how shit our websites are compared to the japanese ones. use neoseeker and rpgsite
>>551106485i find these two sites balanced for dragon(normal) desu. I'm looking at armageddon and he just says to just wild side flame sword....
>call of duty co creator dead before dragon quest 12
oh i forgot they changed the bad ending in the snes remake and later....Onto Builders!
>>551117695>Onto Builders!fyi be mindful of the builders 1 version you pick, as it becomes an increasingly different (and better) game the more recent it is. Afaik the best version currently is the steam one, with unironically the mobile port being the second best (which was the port on which the steam version was made)
btw can someone explain to me why bianca has so much fucking ntr porn holy fucking shit like jade is right there fellas and she literally got corrupted but nah let's have yet ANOTHER HORSE FUCKING BIANCA AGAIN
>>551119519>fyi be mindful of the builders 1 version you pick....huh? what LOL i thought they're all the same
>>551119538there was a doujin back in the day that was really popular and then got memed so its just part of internet history now
>>551119718ultimately they are, like iirc there are>og playstation (3, 4, vita) version>switch 1 version>mobile version>steam versionand each version added qol stuff, in some cases backported from builders 2, and more content so it's better to play the most recent version you can. Like i remember the og playstation version for example having side content be on timers, like if you didn't get to it in x in-game days or whatever you'd be locked out of it
>>551120067>>551119519>>551117695.....why the fuck is A and B switched.SQUARE ENIX HOLY FUCKING SHIT THESE JAPANESE DEVS AHHHHHHHH
>>551003104DQ Dai manga just got confirmed 2026 to have volume 6 and 7
>>551139372Didnt it come out you were a pedo?
>>551140141people say anything about anybody these days
>>551140304Is that a denial or not?
>>551140443im a random anon not the spammer
>>551140517Gonna molest you
>>551140907oh no, please anything but that
what's the best way to steady grind in dq1hd, these liquid metal slimes are honestly giving me high blood pressure
>Princess of Moonbrooke Steam card sells for $10.52What
>>551119929Is that really it? I’ve only ever played the DS version of V but from what I remember Kon specifically says his plan is to slaughter the entire royal family and replace them with monsters. Now I’m curious about the doujin. I’m surprised a doujin could have that much impact on the (gooner) fan community.
>>551145721It's a one-in-a-million thing, but it does happen.
>>551145721Same thing happened with Lara Croft and Horses basically
gawd damn okay i need a breather before I go into DQ2 HD, you guys got any recs? kinda wanna finish up 11 now
>>551152062You may want to finish 11 anyway, at least to fight the real last boss.
>>551152287ugh ticktickton is giving me the heavy 'tism. I never played 4,5,9 to completion nor even got started on 6 and 7.
>>551153197It's not necessary to do the Tickington stuff to fight the final boss and clear the main game. You can always come back to that later.
>>551145189You're probably looking at the foil version. All cards have super rare variants, I think they give more profile EXP or some gay shit if you collect them all. The regular card is regular priced.
Out of shape retired princess Jade
sex with slimes
>>551175796Oh hey that's jade's top but red
>everyone and their mom suddenly hating V,VIII,XI>suddenly apparently IX was the greatest thing since sliced breadi swear to god I remember enjoying IX as a kid but if I get to this and it's some FFXII (fun but insanely overrated) shit I'm going to be mad as fuck
>>551193529FF12 was very much not overrated, everyone hated it back then. People finally realizing it wasn't literally hitler doesn't make it overrated, it's just proof of the retarded knee jerk reaction people usually have for anything that isn't exactly like the thing they consumed before
>>551193529>FF12>Overrated>When it was shat on for over a decade because of an interview quote that the original director came out and refuted years later among other thingsNo. DQ9 also has people coming out of the woodwork to ask for it because its the game that's in the biggest need of a remake/remaster.
>>551193865>>551194587tell that to xiifags (I still think it's alright but meh)
>newfag thinks that DQ11 hate is newLol.
>>551194779i am a XIIfag though, i always liked it since it first came out. Hence me remembering very well how apparently nobody but me liked it, until people gave it a go while being less biased with the remaster (which admittedly fixed quite a lot of things, and even more got fixed with mods on pc)
>expedition 33 stripped of indie game awards for ai sloppa use before dragon quest 12
>>551197532old news>>551196971what mods might regive it a try. I beat the main game but then got filtered at collecting all the zodiac whatever it's called because holy fuck that one dungeon is STUPID as fuck
It'll forever amuse me that FF did a race of bunny girls before DQ.
>>5512038802 days ago news
>>551203880>what modsthere's a few overhaul mods (different jobs, different enemies, in one case even a overhaul to the gambit system) but i'd only recommend them for eventual replays (cause imo they don't make the game "better", they're just neat changes), what the game really needs is the tons of qol mods that either make stuff easier (borderline on cheating sometimes, ymmv) or straight up make it make sense (aka the loot system, one of the things that was clearly made with the goal of selling guides)pic related is my mod list with relative load order (the manager is MO2), the unchecked ones are the overhauls mods which are to be used one at the time (and preferably with a fresh save), everything else can instead be used at the same time. All of these but Ivalice UI can be found on nexus mods (ivalice ui is on steam forums, you can find it by just googling it)also some of these are like frameworks, they do nothing on their own but you need to edit their config files (or use one of the overhaul mods that do that for you). I personally made some edits to some of them, like for example i changed the chain benefits one to give either players or foes random buffs or ailments every time loot is picked up
>>551206172Where's the mod to make Fran's ass bigger
>>551208162https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy12/mods/337
hmm might try something else before DQ2HD. Still got a month before 7 but I was thinking of either completing 4, 5, 6, or 11. Prefer not using the DS emulation but not sure how 4 or 6 SNES is. I'm perfectly fine with playing 5 PS2 but am I missing out on party chat for 4 and 6? Does 7 have any references to anything that I'll miss out on I mean other than the obligatory erdrick shit they're gonna cram into 7.
>>551209210>am I missing out on party chat for 4 and 6?If you don't play the DS versions, yes. IV on PS1 had it but I don't think there's a translation patch for that.>Does 7 have any references to anything that I'll miss out onNo. It's the most standalone game in the series.
>>551209489gawd damn it i hate ds emulation. it's so jank no matter what.
>>551213275I've never had a problem with it, at least not with any DQ games. 3DS emulation is another story.
>>551213946i just don't like "two screens" on a single monitor type shit. it's so awkward. I could play it on original hardware but ngl i am a sucker for speed up....
>>551214120I usually play games like that in a window rather than fullscreen when I emulate on PC so it never felt that weird to me. It sucks trying to emulate DS on a chinkheld though, since I hate side by side display in most cases.
>>551219241Fat middle-aged woman puff-puffs
>>551193529In my memory DQ9 was moderately successful for a DQ game in the west when it came out. The hardcore western JRPG fans were disappointed because it wasn’t on the scale of 8 but it sold decently and was heavily marketed to kids since it was on the DS. As a result it has a decent amount of zoomer nostalgia on the internet now. I skipped it when it came out and then never came around to it for years because I thought it didn’t have much of a main story. Turns out it does and it’s pretty charming but it suffers from Gen 7 portable JRPG syndrome. Expects you to be playing it on a Tokyo subway daily and grinding out little side quests and farming materials and playing multiplayer with many easily accessible people. IMO it’s kind of poorly balanced and doesn’t tickle my build autism. Just gives you the opportunity to make super powerful characters by leveling lots of different things and farming materials.
9 is built around multiplayer and map trading. If you had friends (or were Japanese) then it was a wonderful experience. As a solo experience, its pretty mid.
>>551193529I feel like there are a lot of people here that dont like IX
A game needing other players to be good means its bad. Yes that means multiplayer only games are awful.
>>551193529If you take IX as a singleplayer game it's like a bite-sized VII with create-a-characters and a better job system. The town stories are good but otherwise it's nothing special.
>>551229359>a better job systemI have a hard time believing that.
>>551231197its the worst implementation of the system in the series
>>551231197I don't think the bar's that high, and there are a lot of things about the system in IX that are fucked up, but in theory I think it's cool. The cross-class synergy stuff is neat. It's wasted on a short singleplayer game though.
>>551232524>cross class synergyMaybe if the SP distribution wasnt so ass. For example, Paladins love Fans and Mages love Hammers but tough luck passing those on without intense grinding.
>>551233118>gain like 3-5 SP per level from levels like 10-25>gain 1 SP for every level afterWHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?
>>551234407They expected you to raise people in multiple vocations including ones that you didnt intend on using at all for their build. Which is annoying when you need like 400+ SP at minimum.
The DQ9 job system was better in Heroes 2 than DQ9
>>551234407They werent thinking, its dog shit.>>551234048Kawaii
>>551234407>>551239413Why they didnt just sum up all the sp you should get between 1-99 and divide it evenly per level is something that I'll never understand.
I love job systems but pretty much every DQ one has been either trash or OK (haven’t played X to be fair). Not impossible that 7 Reimagined ends up with the best job system in the series just by virtue of having dual classing and unique skill sets.
3 has the only good job system because it was simple and worked
A VI-style system could be really good and I hope they try it again sometime. I wanted XII to be like an expansion pack sequel to XI but with a fun job system and monster recruiting and more freedom to explore.
>>551253040Most of the vocations in 3 are irrelevant in the long term but fine be my guest.
>>551259892retard
>>551259892im sorry for insulting you actually i hope your days are beautiful and your christmas is magical
Please make Heroes 3 so I can assemble the ultimate bitch party of Maribel, Veronica, Debora and Matilda
Is she hot?
seXI
beroniga :DDD
>>551253040Basically. Job system in 3 is good, 6 is OK, 7 is OK, 9 is bad, 6 DS is bad but mostly due to other changes, 7 3DS is bad. Haven’t played X.
I dont think any of the job systems in DQ are good.
>>551320208They others just over complicate things and feel like they are punishing you for not only switching classes but also sticking to one lol
>>5513224159's system actively encourages swapping since its the most effective way to get a ton of points due to the shitty distribution. The problem is that 9'a exp curve is ass since only Metal Slimes and bosses give non shit exp past a certain point. Combine that with an exp formula that deprives underlevel characters, it ends up spoiling an otherwise solid implementation from a conceptual standpoint.DQ6 is just dont grind in any area too long and you'll naturally max out two advanced pairs by the end. I cant really think of anything egregiously bad about it.
>>551322415The systems in 6 and 7 don't have any long-term effects on the characters either way though, do they? I thought the jobs were just % modifiers on stats rather than affecting growth.
>>551327463The vocation directly before your final one is the most relevant in 3 for stats.6/7 are just stat mods9 does a mix of 3 and 8 for progression. The vocation determines your bases but you can invest into trees that carry over to whatever it is you want to use.
This series needs more pervert dragons.
saved dragon quest modding in you are path
Holy shit the Lunagriff was a monster and a half. Even through magic barrier and 3-4x kabuff I had to spam multiheal and hustle dance just to barely stay afloat and even then I still needed luck on who he'd attack with propeller blade.Didn't help that he outspeeds the whole party on most rounds.I survived by the skin of my teeth, Midenhall was totally empty on MP and everyone else only had a few rounds worth of MP left in them as well.
meri kurisumasu draque
Will Dragon Quest XII release before next Kingdom Hearts game?
Do NOT leave Serena unsupervised in a McDonalds
>>551347290>LunagriffUnseeded Moonbrooke with the Scourge Whip + Cleaner Sweep crushed that dude for me at ~35. Only Miracle Moon was sort of dangerous.
I want to fuck Veronica for christmas. Maybe Serena too.
Amber in a Mrs. Claus costume puff-puff
>>551361526I forgot who Amber was then i had to slowly remember it was the foster mother from DQXI
>Anon forgot his mum on Christmas Eve
>spending Christmas with Jessica
>>551375998That's a lot of booze in his bag
Damnhttps://x.com/McDonaldsJapan/status/2004001651145810280
>>551388693Japan really knows how to advertise a fast food collab.
Merry Festive Day, fellow baldies
Bought 11 again. I used to have a pirated copy of the original installed because I wanted to play with the fancy graphics but I deleted it long ago.
Merry Christmas, anons. Hope you all have a good one.
merikuri/merry christmas /dqg/
merry christmas to all ogres and ogre in the next game or i fucking riot!
i got builders 1 on switch for christmas :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mICvYHdf8Ng
