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Looks like GR presumably has this thing in active development during AC8, which is quite wild, but seeing what the Fenrir was capable of in 2020, this doesn't seem all that unfeasible.
>>550216458Yeah! It's awesome.Curious that they used the whole flag as a fin flash, if that's really the flag.
Does the Wing in the WoT's emblem look a little empty to you guys? It almost feels to me like it's going to have something added to it later in the campaign
>>550263262Patreon link
PSA for future thread bakers, use the OP template as it has the updated resources pastebin that includes both the non-editable/editable /aceg/ assault records
>>550263262They'll draw a Theve under it halfway through the campaign
>>550263918I thought the Assault Records were ded.
>>550264432I kept them alive.
>>550264558Thank you, buddy. I'll make sure to use that next time.
I really hope Tasha's actually personality is really dour and she dyed her hair to play into the whole propaganda angle.
8 better have coop instead of some ultrashit war thunder wannabe pvp mode
>>550265503The steam page explicitly mentions co-op! Cross-plat MP is also a welcome addition.
>>550265218She looked pretty grumpy in the trailer to me, although that's probably because she's stuck on an aircraft carrier old enough to be her grandfather in a world with anti-asteroid railguns.
>>550266885If the theories about her being a Yuke are correct, that might just be resting slav face
>>550265503>>550265756I think this is what has me most excited because 7 just having basic PvP sucked. Coop games are also all the rage right now too.
>>550267091Honestly that'd be pretty funny in its own way.
>>550263736>[WoT]Rex_TTV
>>550268083SHADOW 22:<<Oh, you're live on Twitch?>>
>>550268239Rex got banned from Twitch after downing an Arsenal Bird onto a school, he streams on Kick now
the J-36 is beeghttps://x.com/hayata0363/status/2000543320880406649
>>550270147it's also uglyno tailfins and no discernible fuselage looks dumb
livestream finna go up 11 pm tonight! Night sortie against Sotoan dogs!! flying with the LEGENDARY @wingsoftheve link in bio TAP IN!!!
>>550270147This baby can fit so many missiles
>>550270147Having a DSI on top but two normal intakes on the sides is poorfag behaviour.
>>550270147
>>550270147would look great with a couple of missiles put into it
>>550272459my favorite plane...
I feel that the FCU is going to need as much military and financial support as possible in their defense against Sotoa's unwarranted and imperialistic aggression. It would be a good idea to relocate all of the military assets of Fato, Gebet, Recta, Ustio, Sapin, and North Osea to the frontlines as soon as possible.
>General Resource Defense Force contracted to help liberate country>friendly competition with mercenaries turns to unease as GRDF bases stop supplying FCU regulars>FCU regulars and politicians keep being bought up by General Resource>Others join willingly for better weapons, supplies and pay>FCU pushes out Sotoa, but loses their autonomy to corporate influence>eventually FCU government entities lose any separation with General Resource corporate desires>Ace Combat 3 happensAny bets on how close this will be to the real story?
What do you think they're doing in 2029?
>>550274857ash in the desert
How can I live my life like him?
>>550274123No, it will all be blamed on Belka and Osea will fly in to save the day again and then I will fire myself out of a railgun at bamco offices
>>550274857Same as usual. Each other.
>>550275278I just dont see how a corporate entity becomes a country with the way the story is going, especially if this one ends with "FCU Fuck Yeah!" Like there's gotta be some thought to that on the writing staff right?
>>550276676Guy above outlined it decently, my joking aside i think its kinda correct in how it will (should) go. Where states will infight and crumble the corpos will extend their hands and pull you in to their secure embrace. It's like lobbying in the real world but accelerated or even better, its more like the (lack of) church and state separation but the church is the corps. Trust in GR, we will save you.
I HAVE SO FAR TO GO
>>550268469>Rex got banned from Twitch after downing an Arsenal Bird onto a school
re-release Ace Combat 6 NOW
>>550270147The weird one is that J-50/J-XDS is also beeg (F-111 sized)
>>550262939Naito raben...
>>550280353It's so fucking gay AC6 is still locked behind 360 emulation. Bamco really were fucking cunts in that era.
>>550280353Bro, you pre-order copy of AC7???
>>550262939Maybe we'll see a prototype variant with the same cockpit system as the Falken.Personally i hope to see a return of the forneus to show Neucom is also busy.
But what could a third-rate nation have as a knockoff superplane?
what will be the preorder bonus for ac8 then
Neucom should have started its existence after Ace Combat 5, I dont understand how you can go from >illuminati real and they control a major defense contractor To>let's keep them contracted to help build not only our regular weapons, but autonomous ones too>also they sell weapons to both sides still>also they're the contractor for our entire space programLike how did that all get swept under a rug that they didn't even do a half-assed rebrand to Neucom in 2010? How were they not only still legally allowed to continue operations, but also expand operations and contracts INTERNATIONALLY NO LESS?
>>550283992We're at the point Grunder starts going out of business, so you can probably get a bunch of their tech for cheap in the clearance sale
>>550284046Nothing as good as what 7 got
>>550283992
>>550284368Grunder has nothing to do with Neucom though, they're born from the EASA and are still a minor player until GR has their employees defect.Osea does crack down on them after the end of 7, but yeah, Harling not tearing them down after 5 was a bad move on his part.
>>550280353Soon King soon.
https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/3410
>>550282032>emulationAre later-gen 360s all that expensive these days? The black one I got new is still running just fine.
>>550283992>Grunder sold off one of their automated factory>Turns out it's one where their plan for a low cost superplane is stored (build 3 at the cost of 2 principle)>Sotoa now have a knock off superplane
>>550288240$160 for a late gen 360$400 for an Xboneyou may as well buy a series x at some point
>>550288240I'm not gonna buy a console for literally one game
>>550284958EXCELLENT post
>>550289002Then get two games for it.
>The Shadowsâ„¢ow he hedges
>>550289002>I'm not gonna buy a console for literally one gameAC7 is why I bought a PS4
>>550289002they're like $50 at the most and with bad update you can play every xbox game for free
Does 6 work on Xenia? All I've seen is that the cutscene audio is broken
>>550284958I want to believe.
>>550292806It works if you're fine with alt tabbing every time to watch the next segment of "Ace Combat 6 HD Full Movie" on YouTube.
>>550291059https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NucG0kD3pkggood boss theme
>>550293318Is the gameplay audio fine?
>>550295727Yes, anything related to gameplay or graphics is alright.
>>550297034thanks homie, gonna download xenia and 6
I got an actual problem, AC7 keeps crashing on Mission 4 Rescue. The only mod I have installed is Skies Restored. Any thoughts?
>>550293094>Phantom cockpit in Russian turquoiseCursed mental image, actual cognitohazard.
Remember 8 years ago when we were full of hope and excitement?https://youtu.be/tni14koiD9o?si=nRn2p8RgXrbHQL4-
>>550297665Try playing without a mod and start from there?
Does Project Neon require a certain version? The ROM source I'm getting from has two different ones for JP Electrosphere.
>>550298513I'd rather fucking die as a member of the French nobility in the early 19th century.
>>550299159I mean play your mission 4 without the mod to see if the problem is on the mod or the game files itself
>>550299358Figured it out, turns out I had a super outdated Skies Restored mod, we gravy now :)
I want to play 8...NOW!!
I'm kind of curious how social media actually works in Ace Combat after the internet satellites got wiped out in 7.
>>550300905Electrosphere takes over as the main internet supplier since it doesn't use cables, satellites or any other physical damageable thing. Good thing for everyone who doesn't want to lose access to their pirated porn in the event of the bi-annual world wars
>>550300905Something something neucom insanet GR electrosphere
>>550301236>>550301326So basically the Data Swallow?
Did you guys prefer the jap dub or the english dub for Ace Combat 5 when you played through it?
>>550301962I'd imagine so.That being said AC3 explicitly mentions that In-Sa-Net is satellite based ("Inter-Satellite Network") and Electrosphere is effectively just the internet since it's mentioned to have existed since the beginning of the 21st century.I could see a side mention or a story in the AC8 artbook about Neucom leveraging its EASA acquisition to spearhead reconstruction of the satellite network or something.
>>550302464They can always retcon parts of it; a lot of AC3's worldbuilding was just words tossed here and there. Hell they retconned plenty of 2...
>>550300905Log in to the electrosphere and swallow that data
>>550297974I'd make that image just for you but paintnet doesn't work on linux and I have no idea how to use GIMP
>>550302608Very true>ynr the AC04 guidebook world map
>>550302434aside from 3 i dont think i've ever played these games in jp
>>550302667these frontlines are a complete mess, no wonder the events of the game feel like a complete chaosit's surprising how the entire setting was also created in ac2 and has remain consistent ever since
>>550302434Not related, but I do find it funny how Bartlett still calls you booby in the NTSC-J version of 5, even in the English dub
>>550303228>it's surprising how the entire setting was also created in ac2 and has remain consistent ever sinceHaha...In the tumbledryer period of AC2-AC3-AC4-AC5 there was a lot of retconning. The setting as we know it wasn't really a thing until AC5 which established the current Strangereal world map that later games follow.
>>550303948What's wrong with calling him a waterfowl?
The characters definitely feel a bit campy, I don't mind it though. A more interesting/stronger start than Ace Combat 4 I'll give it that, although not getting to choose my planes like previous games is kind of a downer
The Block III F-18 is growing on me.I don't think I like that.
The YAKUBian Republic has declared war. turn on the news...
>>550262568Don't forget that AC7 is 92% off the base game and 80% off for the Two DLCs
>>550302809>Megafloat was supposed to be well under construction by the time 4 happens>It's never even mentioned again.
>>550305604any reason I should get this if I already have it for PS4? I want to mod but I doubt there's anything good other than infinite ADMM spam, but then I would have to fork over some more cash for Nosferatu.
>>550305060Those CFTs are so fucking cool man, the best looking ones out there. Shame that while the Navy seems to have picked the Block III but ditched the CFTs, guess it makes sense considering it's already underpowered and overloaded.
>>550305976Well it helps support the Devs, one of the few dev teams that actually deserves it's support.
>>550305616Well by 2040 its supposed to be new. So it could just be under construction, or so stalled on construction that nobody cares about it.
>>550305976>I want to mod but I doubt there's anything goodYou can fly the F-32 now, aside from that there are other cool things like the F-15CX, the F-15D, the F-15EX, the F-15SE, the F-15N, drones for the F/A-18E, and F/A-18C, the Adler, visual mods to make the planes have actual combat payload instead of 4 missiles on a plane which can carry 14, glove vanes for the A model F-14s and that's just the stuff I enjoy, I recommend checking this mod for a list of some planes you might be interested in which are some of the most gameplay changing stuff after full rebalances which I used to play with but stick to base nowadays. https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/2154Also cool MPBMhttps://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/3399
>>550307274is there a mod that gives the base plane MPBMs and ADMMs? I think I want to get the base game just for these.
"Alright now make sure to zoom in on her feet as she's on the couch"Also that officer or colonel that came flying in at the end of the mission to get blown up 20 seconds in was pretty fucking funny
>>550307961>Bartlett get shot down>Let's bring in the 108th commander from mainland>he gets shot down>Alright Blaze, you lead the squadron now
>>550307961Oh neat I can buy and select planes in this one as wellI'm glad the UI isn't as fucking dogshit as the last game
>>550307527https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/2906https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/3047?tab=description
>>550308268Just remember that you WILL need to replay the missions multiple times to get all planes. And not because of the money
>>550307527Not that I'm aware of, there's a CreamApi config file in the google drive link in the second link of the resources section of the OP that was a mouthful which contains the files needed to get all the DLC if you aren't feeling too charitable and are only willing to throw in a couple of bucks for the base game. I've been using it for the Top Gun DLC for years with no issues as my country's economy imploded somewhat slowly and then very rapidly over the last couple of years.
>>550308263Is there a reason why Nagase chose us to be a leader when her and Chopper are likely better than Blaze early game?
>>550308268Why are you playing in 4:3? I thought you were emulating the games.
>>550308541Not inherently better but she spells it out pretty clearly. She feels guilty that Bartlett got shot down covering for her. Chopper is absolutely not the kind of guy who wants that kind of responsibility.
>>550308541Because Nagase wants our babies and Chopper also wants our babies and Grimm is our babies?
>>550308331I think I'll try these two out>>550308479then this in case something went wrong, never liked CreamApi fuckery, it feels risky for my account despite rarely heard any bans for it
>>550308268>I'm glad the UI isn't as fucking dogshit as the last gameSpeak ill of Shattered Skies once further and I shall have your head inshallah
Just remember, the coin flip is important.No, really
>>550308624Even if he wasn't, the Ace Combat games have a 16:9 toggle on native hardware.
Hey these shockwaves reminds me of the Stonhenge strikes from Ace Combat 4
>>550293094Soviets wish they could've built the F-4, its performance, payload, and adaptability completely smokes all the Fishbeds, Fitters, and Floggers they ever made.
AC3/Nemo is some chuds OC donut steal revenge arc fanfic with some real world sprinklings and you played as it so don't worry what the future holds.
Time to settle this once and for all. Mission 13 Demons of Razgriz>Sink the first patrol sub>move past it
>>550309532I don't think that they were incapable of building something like it, they just didn't bother because their doctrine was completely different and had no place for something like the F-4
Is there any chance it could be added, given the focus on naval aircraft in the next game?
Woah a dorito...
>>550310016Pretty much this, every weapon is built to a specific job and doctrine. Soviet air power never evolved to the strategic level in the same manner the West's did. Till today the Russians generally see it as a long extension of ground or sea operations
>>550308624I don't actually know, I never really touched my graphics settings under the emulator, the only thing I changed in the options was putting the in game aspect ratio to 16:9 from 4:3oooooooohhhhh
>>550310016They didn't bother because Khrushchev fell for the same missile autism the British did and completely fucked the pace of Soviet combat aviation for a couple decades. Fortunately for them, once the corn man was out, there was still enough political will and industrial capacity to get back on track, unlike with Britain. They at least muddled along long enough to eventually develop the Flanker platform, which has since hard-carried Russia's (and China's, they're set to build more Flankers than Russia ever did) air power capabilities. There's a reason Kono loves them so much, I suppose.
>>550309870Destroy everything in your path, always
>>550311096If Kono loves these things so much why has there only been a single game with a Flanker cover plane while there have been like 5 with an F-22?
>>550311538That's more a question for him. If I had to guess, the main market for the series has always been Japan and the US, where the F-22 is overall more recognizable than any Soviet/Russian design. It still represents the apex of fighter design anywhere in the world bar perhaps the F-35, and even then, the F-22 has had a longer presence in public consciousness. It would be neat to see some antagonist ace or squadron use it instead though.
>>550310370You should install Ostrich's mods for HD HUD and fuck around with the emulator to make the game look better, it isn't too complicated nor does it take too long.
>>550311538AC0 F15AC1 F22AC2 FlankerAC3 FlankerAC4 F22AC5 F14AC6 F15AC7 F22ACX F22AC8 F18
>>550312249No F-16?
>>550312384F16 features on AC6 cover but isnt the main aircraft featured
>>550312249AC3D replaced the Flanker with the F-22 and it's more aligned to current canon.
>>550312219I don't know, I think I'd rather play as it is, original experience and all that, it's not like I couldn't handle it in 4, and 5 already looks better so it's really not that big of a deal
>>550312384starter craft material, never ever going to be the MC signature craft
>>550312578I think it'd be neat to see a Korea, 'Nam or 1st Gulf era AC title.There's so much they could do even if it would be even more niche than it already is.
>>550288195SEX SEX SEX SEX
>>550312871I don't want to see any 'return to stone age' games before I see how they tackle the Electrosphere era.
>>550312871Would going full WW1/WW2 break the gameplay design too much to work as an AC game? Sky Crawlers almost tried that, were it not for the dum AH-style gimmick. I wouldn't mind seeing another attempt at that kind of game but then you're kind of just remaking Crimson Skies I suppose.
>>550304120i mean as in the shape of usea and the locations of most mayor cities has remained almost exactly the same since 1997
>>550312578Which is still one of my gripes with 7. Riced out F-16s have a good shot at outliving all three Eurodoritos, and even basic F-16Cs should compare well with stuff like the F-14, Mirage, and MiG-29. The F-5 has been perfect starter material for a while now, why has it been forgotten about?
>>550313362imagine heroes over europe but well with ace combats tone instead of a more straight foward heroic tale
>>550313502I don't see F-5 being used anytime soon unless we're in playing as a country that is in huge desperation, it's training gear tier at this point
>>550313813Wouldn't you know it, huge desperation seems to describe the FCU pretty well in 2029 (and 1998, and 2004, and 2019, man, you'd think they'd get a clue by now).
>>550313813Wouldn't that be the T-38, though not F-5?
>>550313526It would be pretty neat to see the state of Strangereal 80 or so years before present, lots of room for dumb WW2-style superweapons begging to made into missions. I wonder when the first spaceflight was in Strangereal's history? Their space program definitely seemed to accelerate after the Ulysses asteroid but if any WW2-era nation had pursued rocketry in the 40s unobstructed then there could have been manned suborbital flights by the early 50s, in janky unpressurised cockpits with elaborate flightsuits.Imagine an early cold-war-era mission to fly an airdropped X-plane up high enough to get a shot at shooting down a Salyut station, only for the incident to be swept under the rug to maintain geopolitical stability.
>>55031287170s Sotoa-Yuktobania conflict was one of the ideas in my head for what AC8 was going to be, actually. Would've been absolute sovl
>>550314569>Osean rocket scientists all have suspiciously Belkan sounding names
Where would the games go after AC 8/3 because it's no man's land
I love the Viggen so much, brehs
Ace Combat will see the pivotal moment where the entire concept of nations get erased in favor of megacorporations going to war against each other
>>550315154They could retcon it to make that Simon's experiment is actually using hypothetical unreleased COFFIN equipped aircrafts while the real world is still using standards.
>>550315154Go backwards instead.
>>550315392COFFIN already exists, it just doesn't have ENSI and its further developments yet (that we know of). AC3 is simons fanfic though so they can retcon anything that isn't already established in (strange)reality (R series, Neucom+GR etc). We will see when 8 comes out
>>550314993Opening mission is an Su-15, trying to intercept an SR-71 Find out it's actually a F-12A..
>>550315026Weird how Osea got really good at spaceflight in the decade after they took in a bunch of Belkan expats. Now this has me thinking though, what course did the maturation of spaceflight take in Strangereal? Pilgrim-1 is way more ambitious than anything done irl so far, so is the space elevator. There could be moon bases we haven't heard of yet, for all we know.
>>550314569solg gives us the idea that osea already had orbital strike platforms by the 1990s
>>550315392>>550315894And/or saying all the Nemo stuff was just exaggeration of real events cause reasons if they want to keep things grounded to the level of the other games
>>550315958>spoiler
your yuketobanian ww2 ace squadron sir
>>550316338It's the most beautiful thing I've laid my eyes upon
>>550316338my ancestor
>>550316338>>550316672
>>550315894>COFFIN already existsonly for superplanes, you don't see F-14s or F-18s COFFINed yet, they could definitely retcon much of AC3 especially when most of the fanbase never experienced the JP version of it anyway
>>550317229ACX has a handful of COFFIN planes that are original designs but are quite bog standard in terms of performance.The Forneus is even a visual predecessor to the Neucom R-Series.
>>550317229>they could definitely retcon much of AC3Like what because outside of what Nemo see in the VR training, i don't know what else you could retcon
>>550316989where'd you get this footage of AC9?
>>550317484The electrosphere
>>550317432It would be criminal if none of these (+ Fenrir, because I love his nukes) isn't in AC8 later on, that's just bad world-building, what do you mean South Osea gets all of these experimental craft but not the continent that manufactured them?
>>550317439Well I mean technically you don't know if sublimation, nanobytes and anything else fantastical even exist, AC3 is all Simon's simulation, that means all history presented to you in that game is questionable unless its established in other games which makes it retconnable. So COFFIN, (Y)R series, certain characters etc clearly exist so Simon's simulation is grounded in some sense of (strange)reality but until we get 8 to see what else is happening in the world you can't take AC3 as gospel truth.
>>550316989t-55s can actually do this but the elites dont want you to know it
>>550318136Simon would have no reason to even make the simulation until Yoko dies in 2030 and I see no reason why he would set it in 2040 if he made it earlier. He'd want it to be as accurate as possible so if he needs Nemo to delete Dision in 2040 there's no reason not to continually update and improve the simulation until 2040 to make sure it's as accurate as possible.You can maybe kinda retcon the things that happen in AC3 but you can't retcon its starting world state.
>>550318535>You can maybe kinda retcon the things that happen in AC3 but you can't retcon its starting world state.Unless you say that the setting is how he think the setting would look like by the end of the training
>>550315958>spoilerSo that's why they put RF-12A2 back in service after so long
where did the space elevator go in ac3, did they just chop it down
>>550318903Maybe (you) blow it up in AC8.Imagine.
How did tech go from the somewhat grounded for AC to the Cyberpunk stuff of AC3 in just 11 years because the only type of AI seen in everything beside 3 is the machine learning type of AI
>>550319105Which streaming service would accept anything like this? We'll be out of jobs
>>550318713But why would the simulation look that far into the future? He purges it at the end of AC3 meaning he's satisfied with its accuracy. There is no reason to release Nemo into the real world in like 2035 if he only needs it to kill Dision in 2040. And you still can't get rid of things like sublimation because that happens before Simon would have any reason to make the simulation.
So what happened to Mobius that Sotoa was able to get away with an invasion scott free?
>>550319259Just handwave it away by saying he think that Nemo and whatever else will get it to the events of 2040
>>550319208my man we have F-22 and prototype Falken during 1995, don't question Strangereal techs, we already have optical camoflage during AC7/ACX (2019-2020) so it's logical
>>550319390>Just handwave it awaylol
>>550316989>what the belkan defense budget is being spent on RIGHT THIS SECOND
>>550319349>25 years of service as the ace of acesAnd bro transferred to IUN-PKF (UPEO predecessor)
>>550312249Don't forget the regional variants of 5 using the Rafale and Typhoon
>>550319208Nemo seems to be one of a kind so it's not like you could expect that type of AI to be widespread before Nemo is released. >>550319390For what purpose? You'll still have Coffin systems, sublimation, the Electrosphere, and Neucom and GR as megacorps. You can't retcon 2032 events with "the simulation" excuse. At most you can maybe retcon some things in from 2035 onwards(but it would still be really stupid).
>>550318903>cut down space elevator>cable fall becomes the new Ulysses
>>550319349It has been 16 years since the last time he flew in a combat mission and they already were commenting on his age, the man is probably retired.
>>550319257>blow up space elevator>demand for a space elevator goes up 100%>build new space elevator>????>profit
>>550312249ACJA at least uses Su37 on some of its promotional materials, with F22 kicking in from time to time for what it's worth
>>550318535Yoko existing is not in contention since she's mentioned outside of AC3, whether she dies, whether dision dies, whether sublimation exists, how many iterations, the timeframe, the history are all part of AC3's simulation the moment you boot the game and as such are all part of Simon's fanfic whether that's truly to simulate an upcoming war or it's just his way of dealing with being rejected by yoko or a mix of the both or none of them and something else, whether he even works for either company or not, regardless it cannot be trusted.As previously said the only things you can confirm being real are events happening outside of AC3. Because of how AC3 is you cannot infer what happens until something happens outside, as such the devs can do anything to AC3 lore as long as it doesn't break lore outside of AC3 which leaves a lot able to be retconnable.
>>550319681>cut tether wraps around the EarthHoly kino
>>550319756That's amazingly stupid. Simon would have no reason to make Nemo or the simulation if Yoko hadn't sublimated Dision and then died.
>>550319208dont put too much though into it, military equipment is the exact same as hours but they have spaceships, rail guns, giant submarines and so on
>>550319349he didn't do shit when erusuea invaded the entire continent for a second timethe question is what is trigger doing, did he fell asleep on the job?
>>550319881You literally cannot trust anything inside AC3 because its all a simulation, you can only trust events established outside of AC3 that have direct correlation (if you cant understand what this means, an example is GR existing in 7), you have never seen information outside of AC3 if/when yoko dies, if/when dision dies, if/when sublimation happens, including simon's reasons for the simulation. Until that happens there is nothing stopping the devs changing anything about AC3 other than things already established outside of it, this isn't that hard to understand.
So the events of 3 both exist and don't exist until the events of AC8 touch upon it unless it don't touch upon it because who the hell knows in that case unless it's part of the DLC or something
>>550320372Mobius is probably Usean consider how much he defends North Point. Trigger is Osean why would he give a fuck about U*ea
>>550320425Simon talks to (you) directly at the end of the game, from the real world and then releases you. He outright states his motivation is for you to erase Dision's dead-copy. This is not part of the simulation.The only way to retcon AC3's starting world state is by just ignoring it, like they ignored AC04's world map. It being a simulation doesn't work as an excuse because we know why and when Simon made the simulation(because he talks to you directly from outside of it).
>>550320425>its all a simulationNo, the events of the Intercorporate War are a simulation.Yoko dying is what causes Simon to create the simulation, ergo Yoko's death and Dision's sublimation are events that occured *outside of the simulation* *before it is created*The specific purpose of the simulation is to test if Nemo is capable of killing Dision's sublimated copy no matter which course the Intercorporate War takes.Simon tells you as much *after the simulation is over* - i.e. outside of the simulation.So, to recap:>Yoko exists, creates sublimation and dies>Dision exists, dies and is sublimated>Simon exists, knows that Yoko is dead and Dision's copy exists, and creates Nemo>These events take place outside of the simulation and are therefore immutable
>>550320704See >>550320801
>>550320618Based Osea.
>>550320514there's a reason the game is completely different on the international release, i'm sure even PA knows how controversial the setting is and they are actively trying to make it work based on all the DR and Neucom easter eggs around since AC4
>>550321027>DR*GR, General Resources
>>550321027>there's a reason the game is completely different on the international releaseYes.Make of this what you will.
>>550321150>>550321027In theory how would they make both the JP and international release both exist in canon because my idea would be that the international release is the events that took place in reality while the events of the JP version is what took place in the Sim, you could rewrite some stuff to make the two flow better
>>550321027the overseas version is different because the localization team had to cut corners to make the deadline on a miniscule budgetthe story is almost exactly the same
>>550321597It's more likely that neither will be canon when they reach that point, instead doing a retcon/adaptation that fits what they've put to paper in the 25+ years since AC3 was released.
>>550321802well except you're a human instead of Grok, that's a pretty big change I think
I think some of you guys have a rather selective preference for what counts as grounded.
ngl with all these plot fuckery it should've 100 years in the future, now it's just a fucking roadblock.
>actually starting to think that half of the people invested in this AC3 argument are people who have never played the fucking game (JP or international) when I read some of these talking pointsGet me the fuck out of this sweet hell.
>>550321981To be fair everything the whole Cyberpunk AI stuff isn't grounded next to everything else in AC cause everything could be real in theory
>>550322184Anything can be real in theory.Tomorrow I'll be outside of your house in a with a pulsed laser weapon that somehow still has projectile travel time. In theory, at least.
>>550322152played the international, I really need to play the JP patch but setting it up is such a drag
>>550321887The setting and main plot beats of a three way between corpos and the world goverment remains the same, even the part of a 4th faction with terrorists is there. everything else is simplified because of the aforementioned cut corners, not becuase of a stylistic choice
>>550322525>https://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKmThe mega in the OP has the game pre-patched with both LWT and Project Nemo.I recommend the LWT one.
>>550320801>boot game>simulation starts>simulation tells you X event happens>"this happened because the simulation told me it did">"Im real cause the simulation tells me I am"AC3 is simons pathetic obsession with dision fanfic to deal with getting rejected by yoko is more believable by simons own words at the end if you truly want to believe it not being part of the simulation still>>550322525The /aceg/ mega in the OP has it pre done for you, just throw it in your favourite emulator
>>550322781>>550323015i feel like if project aces really felt ac3 was some kind of shameful fuck up from the dark past that they need to sweep under the rug forever they probably wouldnt have included the corporate war in their official strangereal timeline chronology pagegranted, they probably will retcon minor elements, thats just the nature of a 35 year franchise
>>550322946>>550323015I guess I got nothing better to do tonight, I'll set up ePSXe, thanks
>>550323219Duckstation is way better, use that instead.
>>550323191the only regret project aces have about 3 is that the rest of the world got the inferior version of the gameeven as far back in 4 they reference 3 by featuring megafloat in its early stages of construction
>>550323015>don't use the information presented to you by the game, just believe me! everything is inside the simulation because I said so!>simon's stated motivations aren't real because [FUCKTARDED HEADCANON]
>>550274123Not at all close. There is no chance we get an ending where the triumph is dampened by the country we are fighting for losing autonomy. Corpos coming out on top only works if you align the player with them from the beginning and present them as a justified/necessary throughout. That means either a story which comes across as pro corporate messaging, or a complex narrative where we play as the bad guy. Neither is to be expected from this writer.If the chronology merges with 3 it will happen very abruptly, either in 9, or off screen between 8 and 9. >>550276676>there's gotta be some thought to that on the writing staff rightFans and writers think about things very differently. Writers are typically more interested in their story ideas and building a portfolio they can show off than audience expectations. To us it's a favorite IP but for them it's a job.>>550323191>shameful I doubt anyone actually thinks that, but we haven't been given much reason to think they are especially interested in the concept either. A lot of the apprehension probably comes from the date being 2029, which is close to some of the background stuff for 3. But that was probably just to keep the setting a couple of years in the future, not a deliberate attempt to step on 3's toes or anything like that. It's safe to assume they haven't made the decision to retcon anything yet.
>>550323191Despite my argument I don't think AC3 is shameful or bad, I just don't trust anything the game tells me because of what the game tells/shows you it is. I actually find the game enjoyable and the world interesting and I do look forward to what truths exist outside of it, its a lot less rigid for the devs than people are worried about in the upcoming timeline specifically because its a simulation is my whole point.Also funny thing about aces chronicle website is if you scroll into ACX and AC3 now, it has a satellite offline warning and AC3 has all its specific dates redacted>>550324278the information provided in AC3 is a simulation from power on, are you practicing to be a north korean by believing its real? You say I dont use the information provided to me but it provides you with the knowledge its all a simulation, did you even play.Also Simon's stated motivations are "dision stole yoko from me", so you either believe the ending is real and he's a chud that made a simulation self insert cause a girl rejected him or he isn't a chud and its still part of the simulation
Can I emulate AC6 yet?
>>550324989You cannot believe that the ending is real because he outright states in the ending that Dision continues to live as a dead-copy.
>>550325003yes
>>550320372>what is trigger doingThe princess of Erusea, most likely
>>550325328Neat.
>>550325167And this comes after the "the man who stole Yoko from me" line, no less, for the record.
>>550325791how the fuck is this game even real at this point? Who the fuck allowed this?
>>550323763I'm playing it on my phone, as I did AC2, I just hope it's not harder than AC2 or else I might have to go to my PC.
AC8 better touch upon the events of 3
>>550325965I have an even bigger reveal for you.Ace Combat isn't realBut no, seriously, I don't buy the 'simulation starts from square one and neither the ending nor Yoko's death are real because it's all in a simulation' interpretation for a second.I very much believe that PA will retcon aspects of AC3 to make it fit better - won't be the first for the series, won't be the last - but trying to couch it into some kind of logic or explanation that somehow existed since 1997 is nonsensical.
>>550274123the guy with the glasses and fancy suit is 100% a gr guy, we are probably going to see him getting more influential and powerful in regards to the war effort>>5502748578 needs to bring back the detailed ace backgrounds from 0it was really lack luster that all the special aces in 7 had such a bare bones descriptions>dude>used this plane in this mission
lowkey i've kinda just been vibrating at high frequency from excitement since thursday, every interview from PA makes 8 sound like a real deal evolutionary sequel that enhances the fighter pilot fantasy to a point ace combat hasnt reached before. im fiending for more info, a release date trailer, a proper deep dive into the gameplay...
>>550326725>actively marking your wingmen namesI think the wingman mechanic is back boys
>>550326869peep the d-pad HUD element beside the radar map
>>550325965It was a cultural style and narrative of the time, it's still an interesting game that can provoke some thoughts on reality and what is a human hiding behind an arcade flight game regardless of your conclusion, if anything it does that well>>550326372Not claiming it was designed to be changed 26 years later, the point is that AC3 itself allows that for the devs because of what the game is. If you want to believe the ending then you have to accept it was a simulation from the start as that's what Simon says, if you don't want to believe it was a simulation from the start then you cant believe anything Simon says, it really is that simple.
>>550326924>>550326869I hope we could get a AC6 ally mini nuke all button again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxZNYVd2-Gs
>>550326960I guess.I just frankly doubt that the inciting incident of the game wouldn't be Dision's sublimation.I'll dwell on it a bit more, maybe I'll come back around.
>>550327017>game has first person cutscenes because you will be talking with your wingmen>max out their relationships like in a dating sim so you unlock a jrpg styled special attack
>>550327335>jrpg styled special attackas long as it doesn't turn into Assault Horizon 2.0, sure I guess?
Wondering if we get the option to bring drop tanks if we decide to only bring a single SPW as a visual detail, complete with AC7 Top Gun esque jettison functionality.
>>550327547That'd be fucking rad, I was wondering how they could reuse the TGM DLC's drop tank feature for AC8
>>550327547I wonder if the new engine would allow us to get collision kills with discarded drop tanks.>inb4 challenge runs of killing the Shadows by jettisoning drop tanks
>>550327792Imagine beaning a soft ground target like a supply tent or guard tower with a drop tank and still getting a kill off of it.
>>550327313We can have differing opinions and still exist, it was honestly fun discussing it and I look forward to whatever AC8 shows is right or wrong, if anything and where the devs take it. And I'll think back to today with no malice or embarrassment, we're all buddies
>>550327893All good, I got a bit abrasive near the end there but you know how it is on this bitch of a site sometimes, and I do genuinely apologize.Onwards to AC8!
>>550328248Don't need to apologise buddy i'm not perfect either, looking forward to 8, its been painful coping for announcements the last couple of years. I really hope there's mission co-op like steam page implies.
I was watching a video of someone yapping about 8's trailer and concerns/hopes for the game, and one thing that stuck out to me from the vid and comments was a few people saying Ace Combat should just ditch licensing altogether or at least not so heavily focus on it. I think that idea is insane personally but I'm curious: if Ace Combat 8 had real fake planes would it bother you? Think like the planes in Project Wingman where they're generally accurate but off enough to be legally distinct. Do you need the gake to call an F-18 an F-18 for muh immersion or are you only turned off by outright fake standins for the planes?
>>550329827Having the real names is best, having pseudonyms like in PW is okay, but it'd feel weird if AC starting doing that now. If they started making every plane a fake plane like the ones in Arma 3 then that'd be dumb.
>>550329827ace combat having a licenced aircraft roster is part of the appeal for me, it lets you tap into the emotion of what you feel for certain jets not only in flying but gawking at them in the hanger and screenshots without them feeling/looking off model, it also has a clear line between them and the superplanes this way
>>550329827Yeah nah, the licensed stuff is super cool and what sets it apart from all the AC indie clones with their F-69 block 420sAC should still have a lot of actual fictional designs though, they're always cool looking and high quality cough PW cough
>>550329827I'd rather avoid knockoffs but I do worry what happens if they like, lose licenses down the road and something happens like with MGS changing the names of guns.
>>550329827I think for Ace Combat in particular it'd lose a bit of it's charm to drop real planes or real plane names, especially now that we're this deep into the franchise and being a part of Bamco means they're one of the few studios in this niche that can invest in licensing and whatnot.I don't mind non-AC plane games with fake plane rosters though, Nuclear Option is rad as hell.
>>550330453I do love AC's sci-fi planes but I agree I want a mix. I think we should get more cyberplanes the closer we get to 2040, even just implementing the ones we've already had so far in a more prominent way would be cool.
>grim reaper>ghost of razgriz>demon lord>angel of emmeria>three strikeswhat is rex going to be called? redditlord?
>>550330759Anon, it's in the title of the game.
>>550330759Wings of Theve.
>>550330759hes the wing of theve(fake but becomes an ace legend greater than the original), dummy
>no Chinese jets>Kono blames licensing issues They did Russian planes without licenses before. This decision probably came from someone higher up at Bamco who didn't want to risk being losing access to the Chinese market.
>>550330759chicken kiev
>>550332069just recolor some planes and it will be chinese
>>550332069Their calculus is that the current tensions will subside in the nearish future, and they want to not step on any toes by simply ignoring KAI/Chengdu/etc and throwing their planes in with their simple military designations a la Sukhoi/MIG
>>550332186this
>>550329827Go a little nuts and have real and fictional alike.
>>550333204I puked.
>>550332187pic related isn't a recolor of anything buddy. I was looking forward to some new blood in 8 but it wasn't meant to be. Following the same story template over the same continent AND the same planes again is not ideal, hopefully they make up for it with superplanes. All will be forgiven if my wife Fenrir is in the campaign.>>550332203I do wonder what China gets out of this. Seems like they would benefit from the publicity/legitimacy of having their new jets in an internationally sold game, even if cast in the villain role. Maybe they were worried the portrayal would be too unfavorable, like if PA made them perform worse than western counterparts. And the threat of being removed from the Chinese steam store if Chengu cries to the government has been made much more credible recently.
I replayed AC7 earlier this year and finally played the DLC missions too. I feel like the issues with the writing the game had goes beyond just stuff mashed together in re-writes. A sizable chunk of the dialogue just feels nigh incomprehensible, like words were strung together nearly at random. It's especially bad in the DLC with not-CIA man and his AI chatbot, like seriously what in the fuck is even happening?If 8's writing even feels human by comparison it will be a win in my book.
>>550334084i dont like planes that look like thisi like wings
>>550334084the J20 is so cool...
>>550334290wonder if its because they farmed the english TL out to singaporeans instead of actual native english speakers
>>550334789If one were to make a fresh translation of the Japanese dialogue, would it actually improve? I just worry that it was perhaps gibberish in Japanese too.
>>550332069>no chinese jets>no korean jets>probably no taiwanese jets eitherMan...It's not like I have a particular love for 'em (outside of the F-CK-1, I think that one's cool) but they would've been nice.Especially since we're currently in that part of next-gen aircraft development where it's all still hush-hush and speculative with only mockups and stuff to tide us over, so it's not like they can really crowbar NGAD/F-47/Tempest/FCAS/GCAP into the game.
>>550334949>I just worry that it was perhaps gibberish in Japanese too.follow a decent amount of JP ace combat fans on xitter and they've not really said much negative about the writing that didnt have to do with the structure and pacing...
do you think drones will appear in 8?
>>550335249all the drones were destroyed in 7 so no
>>550335249
>>550333378Oh I can do way worse than that.
>>550320618I like to think that Trigger is an Usean that somehow ended up on Mage Squadron. or to be more specific, I like to think he's the Narrator from AC4
DRONES DRONES DRONES
Do you think the Kessler Syndrome and whatever Nagase was doing in space will feature in 8?
>>550334949>>550335159Yeah the JP dialogue in 7 is good, the voice acting performances are better too. Conversations flow more naturally, but it almost makes the issues with the wider story even more obvious because it's not obfuscated by poor translation, the overall plot is still incoherent.
>>550270147FAT FUCK
>>550274857Living in a lovely house in Gracemeria.
>>550333204yooo that looks aewomse
>>550335893what the hell are these names bro
>>550313362ACI has propeller planes, it was finehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRwoUfYQQU0
>>5503371802 buddies here are 100% going to be doing this in AC8 co-op...
>>550329827>call an F-18 an F-18"F-18" is an unused designation, the F/A-18 on the other hand.
>Have to deal with milsim wannabe larpers bitching about AC3 and how PA totally secretly hates it (despite every bit of the setting intentionally moving closer and closer to it) until 8 releasesyou faggots are more obnoxious than Monster Hunter gen warriors, holy fuck
>>550339752Some of them go harder than others, yeah.
>>550340594GU is peak
>>550340594PA's localisation team clearly hates it. How the fuck did they turn Martha into 'Massa'?
>>550340642ow the edge, but I kinda like this one, especially since Felon exists
>>550339991>mouse has graduated to flying her own tomcat
I want an AC game where you can play the campaign twice, each time as a pilot from both sides of the conflict, and each protagonist is the other's nemesis pilot
>>550342558>have to do a scripted lossfuck that man
>>550343078What? No scripted loss, when you're playing protag A you always win, when you're playing protag B you always winThe point is in each run a different country/side wins the war and the story is different
>>550342558>>550343078I've thought that sort of thing a few times. About what it would be like if there was an Ace Combat that had two protagonists (one for both sides) and it swapped between them every few missions. I imagine eventually you'd have to choose to either join the other protagonists side (presumably the 'good guysâ„¢') and betray your own, or take them down and branch off the story fighting against said 'good guys'. Even though the latter path would lead to a 'bad ending' and almost certainly wouldn't even be considered canon but it'd still be interesting if nothing else.
>>550335413i mean modern drones
>>550344157We'll get an on-foot gimmick mission skeet shooting FPV drones harassing the Endurance before we can launch.Scratch that - there'll be a drone shooting minigame before every carrier-launched mission.
>>550335249Considering 8's theme of manufactured hype, I wouldn't rule out a secret AI rival
>>550346449If you think about it, the Buttefly Master was basically a Rival VTuber
>>550342558>>550343885>>550343950Kinda reminds me of Battlefield 2 Modern Combat's campaign, where you play as both NATO and PLA forces throughout the campaign, but then you have to pick which side you want to win the war for the final two levels. The final level sees you try to stop a Russian rebel group from launching nukes. Fun game idea honestly, you swapped betweem random gruntd depending on what you need for a specific situation.
>>550349212Hotswap mechanic is so underrated. It's sad how some niche PS2 Battlefield game is the only game that utilized it.
>>550349212Ironically, the day before the Ace Combat 8 trailer release, I was listening to the Modern Combat soundtrack again.
New girl's going to have to knock my socks off if she's going to hold a candle to my mechanic wife
>>550342558>>550343950We all know how that will play out at the end
>>550352519fat fuck
>>550352519What Yakuza game is this?
Reminder that we're getting multiple Sp.Ws on our shit.
>>550352935If they're doing it, they better bring back the ADLER and let me put 2 MGPs on it.
>>550352935Bout fucking time too. I'm replaying 7 to tide me over tille 8 releases, and I forgot how ass the Bug's Sp.W selection is.
>>550334084I think China just doesn't want foreigners, particularly those closely allied to the US like the Japanese, to have close looks at their hardware. So they don't hand them the license. Licenses are gay, but what can you do.
>>550340853because they wrote it as マーサ
how will they top this?
Estovakia is really gone boys, I dont think I've ever actually cried this much in my life.
>>550354062What am I looking at?
>>550354885what are you talking about buddy?
Can't believe the This time for sure guy was right. Wonder if he's the same guy who kept yammering about how the Project Wingman Frontline 59 PC release was imminent and was also right.
>>550354996Stonehenge's ground detail in 7. I don't think anyone even noticed by playing the game without mods.
>>550354062I can't wait for them to add all these little details but it tanks the fps by 50 because it's UE5
>>550357707>UE5>framerate fluctuates between 25 and 60 depending on where the camera is pointingWhy is everyone using that garbage engine? Or do people simply not know how to optimize it?
>>550358014It was the future and then CPUs got stuck in the past.
>>550352935Plane details have me drooling
>>550358821wow it only took them a decade to reach the model quality of dcs
>>550356678You just need to be right once
>>550354996the stonehenge level in AC7 has a bunch of highly detailed models on the ground for some reason (the pic on the bottom with the table)interestingly enough, polyphony did the exact same thing in gran turismo 7 - pic related, a restaurant seating area that's outside of the track boundaries that you can never see normally
>>550359725and i also just realised that there's a fucking JPEG DOG IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNEREXPLAIN YOURSELF JAPAN
>replaying AC7's M19 because it's the only base game mission that is entirely an A2A furball (and replaying unexpected visitor gets tiring after a while)>destroyed the arsenal bird before tabloid's death could play outGood ending achieved.
>>550359962Tabloid bombed a state run orphanage, because and only because it was state run. He's not a good guy, frankly its good that hes dead.
>>550253928>>550262978not finalized since it seems like I haven't gotten the blue stripes on the sides or the placement of the stars or the color right, and I think others have recreated the flag anyways since I saw some recreations skin mods for AC7
>>550360978>bombed a state run orphanageThat's what we call 'pre-emptive elimination of potential enemy combatants' and we used to hand out medals for someone with that kind of initiative back in the Osean War, gah dang it.
>>550360978He can't help it as a Belkan, cut him some slack.
How do you guys expect the plane parts system to be this time around? I want it to be extensive enough so that shitboxes can be at least comparable to late game planes.
>>550362567I hope they have more unique parts like the 4 missile system for the XFA-27 in X. Visual changes for parts would be cool, like turning your F-15C into an SE with a stealth upgrade.
>>550359262it's probably more because dcs doesn't have to optimize itself for a ps4
>>550274857i'm out of the loop. who are these handsome fellows?
>>550310116There's always a chance. I'd prefer a more riced out experimental design with canards and 3d vectoring, but the actual ST-21 would be awesome too as long as it came with gunslingers, amraams and smart bombs.
>>550364253the parts of dcs that can kill performance arent really the graphics, it's more the cpu and ram related stuff
>>550364717>a more riced out experimental design>Top Secret F-14 showplane that turns it into a F-22N
>>550364717Oh, and I'd really prefer if they adjusted the automatic swing to occur at mach 1 instead of just above idle so I'm not a dorito for the entirety of the mission while I'm watching the replay.
how come there's a minority that really dislikes 7?i enjoyed the game a lot and i think it holds up well compared to the original trilogy
>>550366142games that bring lots of new people into a franchise are always going to be disliked by people who've been fans of the franchise before that specific game came outthere are of course legitimate complaints as well
>>550366142this is a fanbase that cums over ac4 like it's the greatest thing ever made by mankind
do you buddies read books about planes?my interest in engines has led to to develop a fascination for jet engines and now i'm wondering about reading materialthere's a great book i found recently called the secret horsepower race which was written by a guy with a master's in mechanical engineering and was taught by a former chief designer from cosworth, which is arguably the greatest (car) engine builder in the worldtoo bad it costs $100
>>550366916
Still find it funny it took 30 years to confirm that yes WSO in Strangereal are in fact real people and not inflatable dummies who are just seat fillers.
>>550366916>>550367068books about piston engines are also welcome :D
>>550366776As a newb who only got into ac after 7I found 4 alright besides the very excellent presentation the story is pretty basic and was a lot more interesting in 5 and zero
>>550367173Maybe that's why we survived the crash and Cope didn't. Inflatable dummy protag rose to the top like a pool floaty.
>>550366776AC04 is the greatest thing ever made by mankind, yes. But I dont have any gripes with 7, the story is messy at times but is understandable due to its development and the DLC missions were some of the best in the series.
>>550366402I really didn't like that 7 re-threaded alot of ground by essentially having a re-do of 4's story by fighting Erusea for a 2nd time but with Osea instead of ISAF, and the gameplay didn't click for me for some reason so it's definitely my least favorite of the series and I would go so far as to say that I like AH better even
>>550368773Was this the inspiration for the star wars A-wing
>>550336257>whatever Nagase was doing in spacePilgrim 1 was a mission out to a deep space asteroid to redirect/destroy it in order to avoid another Ulysses incident.>>550339963I never got to play that one or Project Wingman
>>550302434I've played 5 in JP before same with 7 it gives its a different feel but you miss out on a lot of chatter and loses some of the fun. Unless you are fully fluent in Japanese instead of just so so desu.
>>550369269The gameplay is AC7's main saving grace, as far as I can tell.IMO, the gimmicks in 7 (the main reason why many prefer Zero's, 6's and even 04's gameplay over 5's, which is stuffed full of them) aren't too annoying and they don't overstay their welcome:>The HUD lock in 444 doesn't last long, and the mission itself is a lot of fun once you get past it>When it appears (in precisely two missions) thunder can be avoided by avoiding the clouds themselves>The sandstorm in Pipeline Destruction is only really annoying if you try to S-Rank the mission>The Bunker Buster SPW only appears once, and is relatively fun to use>The target ID stuff is only there for two missions, and can be made trivial by padlockingThe main area where 7's gameplay drops the ball are the boss fights. The closest the game comes to actually giving you a "fair" fight that doesn't rely on scripting, invincibility or overly inflated health pools coupled with bullshit missile lock breaking are the Sols. Even then:>In Mission 15, all they do is run away from you>In Mission 18, all they do is fly sluggishly and Cobra into your missilesThe game does not have a single battle against enemy aces that feels fair and engaging.
>>550354062>APC that can climb buildingsNo surprise I came across one ground unit that doesn't drive it hovers over the land It goes with out saying Belka was field testing all kinds of weapons during this war.
>>550372370>Gwenpool: Pilot editionI hope she's a fun character and not an insufferable cunty one. Scrap Queen was a tad cunty sometimes but she had some good reasons to be, I'd be pissed to have my decade-long pet project blown out of the sky on the first flight too.
I know we won't be getting the TGM planes back in 8 but I really hope we get planes who have the same stats. But what could they be?Tomcat 213's Hornet ADVAdler with options for 4 gunpods or 4 PLS plus its gun changes depending on the pod you pick
>>550373170Aurora as the Darkstar replacement
This plane looks happy
>>550332186TWEET TWEET>>550330759I really do like the idea of them trying to manufacture an Ace Combat legend, to the point they just lie about it.
>AC: u wot m8?
>>550373703I could see that and seeing her in full HD would be nice
Man I forgot how overhyped the belkan """aces""" in 5 are. Guess Cipher retired all the good ones.
>>550374387More like it looks retarded
Come to think of it given how this game will work. We'll have a very unique line when you crash or get shot down.It won't be something something crashed/shot down. Instead it'll be our current Theve was crashed/killed who's next in line?
>>550375915They barely outfought two guys in a mig-21 and an f14 in top of the line prototype planes specialized for dogfighting. Dudes are frauds through and through.
Was there anything you guys didn't like about the trailer so far? I honestly think the English subtitle is awful, to the point I'd suggest them change it even if it's last minute.
>>550378379It works better when it's said out loud. "Wings of Thieve(s)" is kino.
there is so much hidden lore behind single sentences in this seriesin mission 4 of AC7, one of the enemies says something like "strategic AI chose arsenal bird justice over liberty" and it's never mentioned ever againpeople always jerk off the dark souls series for doing this but ace combat has it beat ten times over
>>550379076i think it's just the name of the arsenal birdlike how a ship has a name
>>550378756It is kino but most people won't get that. Legitimately may have been better to just call it 'Wings of Thieves'.
>>550379185i'm talking about the fact that they have a strategic AI making their war decisions
>>550379185Names have meaning, especially in fiction. An AI choosing justice over liberty is in a single line the entire synopsis of AC7's endgame.
>>550379638>"Grok how do I kill Oseans?">"Just make drones do everything while tying them all to a self-perpetuating network of orbital telecommunications satellites, nothing will go wrong lmao."
>>550366142There's a lot to dislike about 7 but it comes down to personal taste.>Story is a mess, even when taking rewrites into consideration>Some AC fans really don't like KatabuchiI'm not gonna lie I had no idea who this dude was till I saw people complain about him after 8 was revealed. Guess I never paid attention to the credits of 5 and 7.>A lot of 7's characters are not developed well and there's a lot of them to keep track of>Extremely hamfisted themes even for this franchise's standards>whack ass plane balancing for individual aircraft>said balancing leads to the part system being a mess>some planes have awful Sp.W selections>a lot of people really seem to hate 7's guns>multiplayer suite legitimately sucks, both in content and in balancing>Playstation exclusive VR mode>all the DLC planesThat's all of my gripes at least. Not enough to make me dislike the game personally but enough to understand why some people really hate it.
>>550374387>>550375996Made for ICE deportations
>>550380217Nothing did go wrong, everything worked the way the belkan man planned. He just got caught and had to weasel his way back out of being canceled by a child.
>>550384089Why are they giving her homework to do
>>550378379Not a fan of the first person perspective cutscenes, or establishing such a large cast of characters, or how it seemingly sets up the story to retread old ground, especially reusing the the 'last remaining carrier' concept again. But I'm still hyped, was hoping for a more unique soundtrack than the standard bombastic orchestra but the trailer music changed my mind. I feel like this is gonna be a good one.>>550379968What >>550381754 said, those points are largely in order of importance too. Main issue is the story and writing. The actual moment-to-moment game-play was alright, despite the fact that the 'arcade' flight model was cranked up to 12 so the planes are basically buoyant in air but also attached to invisible rails. I think the reason people are upset is the evident missed potential. If they had gotten anyone else to write the script it would probably be widely accepted as best in the series. > hamfisted themes even for this franchise's standardsNot just that, but the themes and messages contradicted eachother and were not supported but the gameplay/plot.7 isn't all bad though. The skies are visually stunning, and that's with the botched clouds they rushed in imagine how good 8 will look. The 2nd DLC mission is a top tier battle, and mission 11 of the campaign is THE best ground-pounding in the series.
I bet Kono is sad the Navy has still failed to announce the FA-XX. I bet he was counting on it with this being a Navy game. Speaking of this will be the first game our AWACS will be in an E-2 instead of the normal 767. Ok Question timeDo you think we'll getSotan Su-75 ace squad as the mid game boss?TempestNGAD KF-21F/A-32Hornet ADVGyrfalconPrototype version of the Night Raven
>>550378379FELT VERY HOLLYWOOD
https://x.com/i/status/2000923138885034259This new verification is forcing me to phonepost, this system is retarded.
>>550385282>Do you think we'll getNo to all of these.
>>550385282The only thing the Navy's announcing any time soon regarding the F/A-XX is it's program's cancellation.
>>550385471Here the fix https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x/issues/3528
>>550385471All this effort for something that won't even fix the spammer problem.
>>550385471I thought she was spreading her legs and doing some weird crabwalk for a couple seconds of looking at that image.
>>550378379I didn't like the first person view style it feels like Kono's trying to channel his CoD mindset again. As long as it stays in the cutsceness only I can deal with it. Don't like it but I can deal with it if stays outside the game
>>550385778That is what people said about NGAD and it finally happened. I expect the same with the Navy it'll just take a bit. Now new ships on the other hand.......
>>550386247The cutscenes keep to be in game same with the opening plane stuff
Do you buddies think that Su-whatever wooden super plane that Russia unveiled a couple years ago is going to be in this game or nah?
>>550385028>Not just that, but the themes and messages contradicted eachother and were not supported but the gameplay/plot.The main theme of the finished story was overreliance on AI causing war to get almost completely out of control of any human actors. Without Trigger's tunnel run under the space elevator, the world would have been plunged into a forever war dictated solely by computers. I felt this was theme specifically was built up pretty decently. If it gets tripped up, it's on more minor theme or plot concepts, usually in how people expected Spare to be more important than they actually were, an aftereffect of the rewrite away from the conspiracy plot (which was too much of a rehash of 5) toward the drone plot.
>>550387125The Su-75? Considering the big bad hyped antagonist is in a Felon I don't think they're going to bother adding the Femboy.
>>550368879>the story is messy at times but is understandable due to its developmentThis is a partly a misconception, The gameplay features/systems had to be simplified into something less ambitious but functional, that was the hard part and they succeeded. The same should have and absolutely could have happened for the script, but not enough was done there. I can't find it so you'll have to Trust Me Bro but there is quote (I don't think it was translated) where Kono admits he was dissatisfied with the story, but Katabuchi has seniority and more industry clout so it couldn't be helped. The way this works internally is that the writers name is on the screenplay and in the credits, so the company needs his permission for any substantive changes or cuts. And if there are production issues which require major changes said writer is supposed to come back in and supervise. So if the lead writer has moved on to other projects, or is attached to certain ideas/plot-points/characters, and insists "it's fine, leave things as they are" it results in all kinds of issues as we see in 7.
>>550387125>>550387625why *wouldn't* they add an interesting new plane to help fill out the plane roster?
>>550386889Uhh you do understand stays outside the game means no CoD type shit leaks into the gameplay like what happened with AH.
>>550388986Most of the stuff seem to be in game CoD type stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYx_867ua0
Would you be mad if I told you that my dad works for Namco, and.. um.. well I was touring his office the other day and I saw a disc on his desk that was titled, "Ace Combat 8 all the files only backup DO NOT LEAK OR DESTROY" In my haste to check it out I picked up the disc and tripped, dropping the disc directly into a shredder and then when I fell I pushed the shredder into my dad's decorative lava display completely incinerating it. I thought it would be fine but when I was walking out we walked right past Kono who mentioned he was on his way to my dad's office again because they accidentally hit delete on the code again and lost their files.
>>550378379I'll cut it some slack. The first trailers for 04, 5, Zero, and 7 all felt really raw and rushed in their own ways (I'm not sure if the TGS 2007 trailer for 6 is the first one. If it is, then I'd say it's a job well done).
I wish E3 was still a thing.
>>550388601Because it's not real. Might as well add in their own original design, maybe something that ties in with AC3's roster. Like something between the XFA-27 and XFA-36.They haven't really been adding these paper designs since AC5(and then it was mostly about filling out the roster because every plane only had 1 SPW).
>>550387265Again, you missed out the convoluted B-plot that the AI needed the Belkan dude to get the data to continue the war.Also, why would you want them to continue this tired drone/AI plotline. I don't think Team Aces can/could get any decent writers on this.
>>550390397I don't think that should stop the nipponese, but I also think the Checkmate's inclusion hinges on licensing even if it's not real.
How long before the AC game with Mechas in Strangereal when it become Macross the game
>>550390396Good news buddy! Most of them are still in operation with various air forces around the world.
>>550389264Alright ESL-kun lets make it retard proof for youGameplay is where I have control of the plane and playing a levelCutscene is where I am watching the characters do something on the ground
>>550391597Why didn't you say that to start with
>>550391347Bad news buddy! the U.S. Air Force had canceled the E-7 program due to ballooning costs and concerns about survivability. The termination, announced as part of the fiscal 2026 budget rollout, came after months of rumors that the program was in danger as the Trump administration increasingly set its sights on instead using space-based capabilities to help warplanes find and track enemy aircraft.
>>550392737Would space even be viable for that kind of shit? Everyone can see your sats and you would think that in the outbreak of a peer conflict space assets would be among the first to go.
>>550391167After they make the rest of the AC games canon to the whole UGSF thing
>>550391797If you don't know what only in cutscene means that's all on you
>>550392737Last thing I looked at which is only a couple of days old said the same thing it did last month Congress is at the no you are not canceling this project. So where did you see this at?
>>550390396I do miss making fun of it but the TGAs are an even bigger lolcow than E3 was
Do you guys think there will be any new super weapons like picrel?
I wonder where they would go after AC8 because that mean they need to go backward in time before AC1 or forward in time after AC3
Belkan separatists in the asteroid belt start lobbing asteroids inwards at Strangereal.
>>550397420Ekranoplanes are fucking stupid
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>>550390397Not being real hasn't stopped them in the past. S-32, FB-22, F-15SE, F-2SK. All the same, I wouldn't mind more original designs either, like the Neucom prototypes in X.>>550391115Licensing doesn't seem to be an issue for Russian planes. At least, I've never seen UAC in the logo splash screen along with Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Dassault, and so on.
>>550397420Ekranoplanes are fucking cool
>>550393003No idea why the Trump admin is obsessed with it, China has known ASAT capabilities that they would most certainly share with allies in case of global conflict, and satellites are overall much less flexible than aerial assets.
>>550397420I am indifferent on ekranoplans
are ace combat 7 haters being ironic? I just finished 4 and it was aight compared to 7 but I'm hoping 5 and Zero are better.
>>550397420We sank one before, and we'll do it again...
>>550393003Because techbros say it can and the graft is realAfter all the goal now it to milk as much money from the taxpayers on projects which are as likely to get anywhere as Teller's X-Ray Laser delusions were. Remember there's not even plans for the Super Space Radars yet and they won't be ready for years if not decades. Meanwhile "JuSt UsE HaWkEyEs" is just retardation""Suvivability Issues"" tend to get solved if you have planes flying escort to intercept the ultra long range missile pukers. Its a solved problem just like how Carriers "Suvivability Issues" against Backfires was solved with interceptors with long range missiles. Related Super Hornets now have Air Launched SM-6s with the AIM-174B which probably could say hello to targets at least 240 km out (assuming no gains from being air launched compared to ground launched), will need a F-35 or AWACS to spot for ultra long range shots but hey they got the fancy sensors for a reason.
>>550401875Datalink also solves the survivability problem for the Hornets themselves.>Meanwhile "JuSt UsE HaWkEyEs" is just retardationWhich are probably going to be just as survivable, if not less, compared to the Wedgetails... simply because they're less capable. Lower cost probably doesn't matter, either, considering that more will be needed to cover the same airspace.
>>550319686Probably at this point a multiple star general if he wanted to stay on after his flying days were over (or would it be admiral, he started flying off a carrier in AC4 so would that make him fleet??
>>550390397>Because it's not real.
>>550397530they simply pull a soft retcon on 3 and say it was all a simulation
>>550402370Hell the Wedgetail orders would probably have been cheaper than just developing the Spess Radars, much less building and launching a constellation, which are as mentioned even more vulnerable as ASAT is becoming easier to access. Since optimistic estimates are looking to the mid-2030s for such a system to even be remotely ready to roll out the first ones. Remember the illusion of saving money is the key and having a moron running the DOD who's pretty much a COD kiddie thinking Special Forces work like in the Movies is not helping either. They're now wanting a fucking 21st Century BATTLESHIP for the USN even though everyone knows that thing is getting sunk without contributing. At least the Kirovs fit the Bastion strategy by being big enough targets to draw attention due to their loads of carrier killer missiles, but are like the rest of the Russian surface fleet expected to missile spam, SAM spam and hopefully do enough damage before dying patriotically and making the NATO incursion have to turn back due to being rendered combat ineffective due to losses.Also this new captcha is fucking ASS
>>550402818retard
I just finished ace combat 7 and honestly I have no idea who Georg is, is it mentioned anywhere in the story that he was the one to kill Harling or was it just a cut line from the game?
>>550402370>simply because they're less capableAre they? I thought that massive airframes for AEW&C don't really matter as much because we're long past the era of mechanical radars and modern day AESA's are much more efficient both energy and weight-wise.Europe is also interested in lighter airframes for this task (GlobalEye).
Is 8 gonna be slop?
>>550404956Yo, bruh, what the fuck you mean 8 finna be slop? Nigga we don’t even peeped 8 yet, it just got announced and you out here talkin’ reckless like you some kinda prophet or somethin’. Sit yo ass down, stop wildin’. We ain’t seen it, ain’t touched it, ain’t even heard all the shit yet, and you already frontin’ like it trash. 8 might buss harder than you think, might make your whole ass look dumb out here runnin’ yo mouth. Chill wit the hot takes, let folks vibe wit it first, stop actin’ like a whole fool on some extra shit. Deadass, you wildin’ out here, talkin’ crazy ’bout shit you ain’t even gave a chance yet.
Dev team interview. We've learned PA really, really likes cloudshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrsUY7C-JaoStill, multi-layer clouds sounds good. Also confirmed the 1st Person POV is only going to be in some cutscenes, but that's all, no giant hub base.
>>550408289>no giant hub base.That's big let down
>>550408289I would've actually liked going around the carrier, it'd be something AC has never tried before.>>550404956No. Don't just throw buzzwords around, think about what has been shown so far.
>>550408289Shame, I wanted to spend time with my squad.
>>550408639Let down for some but that's extremely un-Ace Combat to spend too much time on the ground much less have a giant hub base to walk around. If they added that I'd actually worry it was trending more to CoD/Battlefield type stuff.
>>550349212Alright, BF2 had a campaign? I literally spent so many hours playing single player quick missions as a kid (my internet sucked). I had no idea.
>>550408289I know we're fans and thus biased but it really is almost a guarantee that english language game journos just constantly ask the shittiest, most surface level questions.
>>550408770I get it but as a truecel every game needs to be Persona 5 now.
>>550409430>game journos just constantly ask the shittiest, most surface level questions.I don't think it's just us being fans, game journos have always been like that. They've been a joke for well over a decade at this point. I'm sure the guy doing it didn't ask to interview the dev team for this specific game, and probably only played 7 once.
>>550409795Nah this seems like a western specific issue. The korean and chinese game journos that interviewed PA last week all seemed to have way more specific questions that were based on at least a baseline level of familiarity with the franchise.
>>550409795I still remember being absolutely livid in the leadup to 7's release that fucking troglodyte journalists were getting to play AC7 (in as much as their stunted brains could even comprehend 3D movement) and I wasn't.
>>550408770I'm fine with no hub baseTheir is one type of hub base I could find acceptable. And I think most of us here would as well. Its a large hanger/work area of your carrier where all your planes are accessible. You can take pictures with them on a free cam type drone. Have your squad mates and various crew members pose with the plane and you.But how do we get around the faceless pilot deal? Easy you walk about the hub in a full flight gear with helmet on visor down.Yeah my hub idea is just a fancy photo mode
>>550410264It's a neat idea in concept but maybe out of the realm of where PA wants to advance. Hell, you have a ton of people here who hate having 1st Person back at all, much less spending a ton of time wandering around the carrier.
>>550397420what do ekranoplanes do about rough sea conditions? do they just go around the storms or are they forced to stay in port?
>>550411349afaik they can't be used in rough seas, they also take a century to turn just a few degrees and needed other ships to spot for them
>>550410264After some thought I'm going to expand this fancy photo mode ideaYou can move around above or below deck place your planes as you want. You can watch them take off and land. You can watch them do a full tow them to the elevator get them on deck and launch them. You can switch to a sky view to view your ship and plane setup while being able to launch and land planes from this viewAfter you beat the game you can now have enemy characters walking around so you can take pictures with them if you want. Along with the carrier you have the option to do all this at an air base if you want more space. Then all in all the usual shit like a place to watch cutscenes, a kill board etc>>550410616That's the best part it won't be in first person it'll be in 3rd person hence the full pilot gear at all times. The other good part the Hub isn't mandatory its an option that will appear after you clear 3 missions. Letting you play normal story mode or free mission. Again what I want is really nothing more than a very fancy photo mode not some mandatory part of the game.
What if you play as a revolving door of Rex's throughout the campaign? Like you get shot down, suddenly you're in another POV of another person getting the Rex Helmet. Like that cutscene of the glowy giving you the flight helmet is what you watch whenever you hit the continue button and you only get a true game over when everyone on the carrier is dead.
>>550332069>>550334084good fuck the chinks, filthy dog eaters deserve nothingkorean and taiwanese planes would have been kino though
>>550408289Really want to see how they've innovated upon enemy behaviour this time. Enemy AI in AC hasnt exactly been its strongest suit, there are times in 7 where even on highest difficulty enemy fighters or drones will just fly in a straight line for several seconds despite me having a straight lock on them.
>>550413958koreans are infamous for eating dogs, and their plane designs are way more boring compared to chinakino...not even gonna get into the taiwanese aviation industry...
I wonder if you'll be able to fly a plane in Ace Combat 8, anyone hear anything? Has Kono mentioned if you can fly a plane yet?
>>550409795>>550409974Western devs are shills for corpos that pay lip service to their ideals.Modern journalism in the west is ideologically compromised at worst and corrupt at best.
>>550413096Haven't played one like that since SNES a WWI plane game. You could also lose pilots by them getting fired for failing some missions. I lost most of my pilots to being fired than getting shot down.>>550413979>will just fly in a straight line for several secondsIts been that way since AC1 its always been by design. 7 is far more noticeable as its last a whole lot longer than in other games.
>>550414563>Its been that way since AC1 its always been by design. 7 is far more noticeable as its last a whole lot longer than in other games.Well according to that Gamespot interview, enemy behaviour is something they've spent a good amount of effort on advancing. I think because there's a lot more factors that interact with enemy AI now, like the clouds, the aforementioned increasingly granular destruction, etc.
>>550388034>Trust Me BroSeeing how japanese hierarchy and work culture tends to function I believe you
I wonder what's going on in Geofront right now?
>>550415784Ace Combat Minecraft
>>550388034>>550415416Katabuchi is an established anime writer and director (created Black Lagoon, among other things), so this would track since he'd be busy on another project while 7's technical shit was being wrangled. I think he was busy doing the In This Corner of the World movie at the time.
>>550415784A lot of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU
>>550384089>>550384881A proper education in physics and math is essential to a pilot.
I legitimately like Final Option as a mission.
>>550400079With the statement that Chinese and Korean planes aren't in because of issues with licensing, I wonder if Russian companies don't even care about licenses or if PA gets the same copy pasted "Da, here is license." from them every time they work on a new game.
What would your reaction be if Professor's real name is Keith Bryan?
>>550417183he's a kid at this point in the timeline
>>550417481He would be around 19 but he wouldn't look like that unless there was something in the water
>>550417481He literally just graduated from flight school with Dision the previous year
Woah.
>>550418363Total Warhammer 40k is such a no-brainer genius idea that it should have happened like 20 years ago, no wonder it has so much hype.
>>550417718But it does leave open the chance of we'll get to fly with them as ally units on an early or mid game mission.Speaking of what is possible but not for sure, what if the FCU hires out Scarface to escort you for a bit.Your sailing along in your tiny carrier when a brand new Ford class sails up beside you painted on its island is a huge phoenix emblem while some F-35C's in traditional white & flame colors do a fly by of your ship.
>>550417718What 18-19 year old looks like this?
>>550419160plenty? 18/19 year olds are physically adults...
>>550418363>AC8’s reveal was almost as popular as Tomb Raider’s Huh, interesting times
>>550419987that says more about how shit TR is now than anything else
Reminder that Dunkin Donuts and McDonalds canonically are headquartered in this country
>>550420345What was the last good Tomb Raider? Like 20 years ago?
>>550420353What?
>>550404351Yeah 7 is like that. It just keeps yelling random shit at you and hopes some of it sticks. 5 is like that, but not as bad. It’s honestly exhausting and stressful, and part of why it will take me a long time to get into 8, if ever.
Hello saars tourist from /wtg/ here.First of all i today we had a game update and in the update trailer i think they gave homage to the AC8 Wings of Theve reveal (picrel), it's also what they are saying in the comments.Second thing, the whole "Ghost of Kiev" thing, where did it originate? Some people say it's from /wtg/ and some say it's from /aceg/ (Ghost of Razgriz)Do you have any heads up or proofs? See you in the skies
>>550413979Maybe you are just a really good pilot buddy.
>>550404351>was it just a cut line from the game?It's cut - he had an entire speech in Lighthouse where he admits to killing Harling cut, the final product attributes Harling's death to an Erusean drone faking Osean IFFs.Fun fact: if you stick around in Rescue until after Gargoyle shoots at the elevator, the game spawns another Gargoyle F-14 at the end of the map that beelines towards you and sticks behind you that is internally tagged as Georg's plane; likely a left-over from when Georg actually had a degree of plot relevance.ALSO THIS CAPTCHA IS FUCKING DOGSHIT
>>550424053>ALSO THIS CAPTCHA IS FUCKING DOGSHITReally because it work for me after editing one line https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x/issues/3528
>>550424053is there no recording or logs or some sort that can absolve Trigger for something he doesn't even do?
>>550423881One of the previous threads >>549851927 had a conversation that went into it, apparently it was a war thunder CC that started it
>>550423881>>550424319Linked wrong post, sorry >>549916309
>>550424279Probably? The game is very "AC5" about Trigger being let out of Spare where it's basically "this dude kicked so much ass he couldn't have done it, we gotta pardon him" and then the LRSSG is completely left in the dark about Trigger and Count's time in Spare Squadron - apparently Spare's penal status isn't known at all outside of those responsible for it.The in-game 'you're absolved' moment is when Labarthe in Last Hope states over the radio to the LRSSG and co. that Erusea used IFF-faking drones to kill Harling (with Count being the only one to recognize the significance).
>>549916309>>550424319>>550423881So that what Warthunder fags do when they're not leaking shit in hope to buff their tanks or whatever
>>550424319>>550424778Thanks i appreciate it a lot. Our CC's are a scourge upon humanity, all of them should be crucified. You're the goat
>>550424891>with Count being the only one to recognize the significanceCount going from blowhard to buddy throughout the campaign is one of, if not the, most satisfying things from 7's narrative. Would've been cool to drag Tabloid and Avril around for the fun as well, or at least hear Bantzdog and any remainders of Spare during the last two missions.
>>550424891I know that having the player be the one that does it was never the plan but I wish they hadn't cucked out.They had the perfect setup. You don't have the aircraft tree on a first run so you're stuck with your F-16 with 4AAMs. The drones always swarm around Mother goose one and then fly straight, making for perfect juicy targets for multilocks. Mother goose one pings you so you turn around, lock on, and fire, which is then followed by the MAGE 2! cutscene.On my first run I honestly thought I did it, especially after they revealed the IFF hacking. I thought the game would just swap Harling's IFF for that last moment to fuck with you.
>>550423881It absolutely originated from a War Thunder fraudster. Granted it was on Twitter not /wtg/ but it absolutely was a WT Fag.
in the official AC discord, holy shit sly is still an obnoxious fucking nigger
>>550424891>apparently Spare's penal status isn't known at all outside of those responsible for it.Then you have Count saying that the regular unit doesn't want to talk with the penal unit in Mission 9 cloud bullshit mission, as if they even know what a penal unit is.
>>550426223I'm not on reddit or discord so I don't know the backstory behind sly. I know he's not held in very high regard but I have no idea why, could a buddy explain
>>550426223>discordno surporise there
>>550426223Who?
>>550426804smug pompous furfag who acts like the king of the western AC fandom because he's the head child molestermod of the ace combat wiki
>>550426668One would think that the LRSSG would know about Trigger somehow being involved in Harling's death though.It's like if Jimmy Carter went on tour in Afghanistan during primetime War on Terror, got kidnapped by the Taliban and then nobody in the entire US, including its military barring a select few, were ever privy to the identity of the A-10 Warthog pilot that allegedly strafed the fucking place.
>>550426223>officialIt's a wiki server, nothing 'official' about it>holy shit sly is still an obnoxious fucking niggerThe fact that they require you to have an account on their dumb wiki says it all.
>>550427720>It's a wiki server, nothing 'official' about it?https://x.com/AceCombatGames/status/1999509793598288137
>>550427264I think they just wanted a scapegoat and Trigger is convenient enough but they're kind enough to not slander him too much since he is an overachiever even during Mage days
>>550426223i hate that gypsy fuck so much man, his holier than thou attitude gets really fucking annoying
Official English Twitter accounthttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES/status/2001094998843121732https://x.com/AceCombatGames
>>550413979That's kinda necessary to get missile hits. Try playing a game that doesn't do that but also has AC's kinda dumb and easy to dodge missiles, you end up having to kill every air target with the gun.RaiderSphere4th is a good example, the A2A missiles are kinda useless aside from the occasional joust kill.
Fun time to be reminded of AMERICAN power while on vacation. This is also the first time I have ever seen an F-35 with my own two eyes
what DO we think about chinese planes, buddies?
>>550429838I think it would be nice to have enemies that at least try to put up a fight though, especially these days since there are far more ways for the AC player to dodge missiles, what with chaff/flares, cloud cover, PSMs, etc.
>>550430543never ever, like usual
>>550430543Garbage because China, much like Russia, can’t make engines that are worth a shit.
>>550430543I think the J-10 and JF-17 are pretty neat.The J-20 is cool to look at I guess.I don't think much of the others.
Ace Combat 3 is overrated.There, I said it.
>>550430543its very frustrating to see a lot of midwit reddit engineers still have this view of the chinese aviation industry thats been stuck in the amber of the mid 2000s.
>>550430180I haven't seen one with my own eyes yet, but sweet fuck I've heard them.
>>550420629depending on your definition of what a good TR is, a lot of older fans would say the angel of darkness or even one before that but the LAU (legend, anniversary, underworld) trilogy has a decent amount of fans
>>550427906I don't use twitter so that doesn't do anything for me.
>>550431056its actually underrated because 99 percent of the fandom in the west has only played the PS2 trio at best (most of them have only played AC7 tho)
>>550430543They're taking over from Russia in the designated OPFOR plane department, since Russia itself is rapidly going the way of Britain. They're already leagues ahead in the knockoff F-35 department, for example.
>>550430543Don't care that they will be missing, but worried about roster variety.
>>550430543I do not think they make good rival ace planes, at least the J-20. It is a BVR specialist/AWACS assassin IRL and does not have a gun, which is strategically sound IRL but just doesnt give that mood for an enemy ace aircraft.
>>550432079>d does not have a gun, which is strategically sound IRL but just doesnt give that mood for an enemy ace aircraft.could just glue an external gunpod on, or even BS an internal cannon a la Nighthawk in the older titles
>>550430934is that true? i heard different about the WS-10, which supposedly used the F119's (unbeknownst to the chinese at the time of making the decision) overexaggerated specs as a benchmark and have apparently matched it but i don't know enough about it to confirm that
>>550420353Do not denigrate the proud and industrious people of Fato, fatso.
>>550431097its very frustrating to see them still have a view of every chinese industry like that
What's with all the people begging for PSVR on social media? They know, it's not going to happen at any point at this rate. If PA isn't willing to accommodate regular VR, why specifically PSVR?
>>550420353what even is Recta? Anal country?
>>550433543they bought an expensive peripheral only to find out most gamers view it as a gimmick that gives you nausea, subsequently there are zero actual games so they latch onto anything with even a remote history of presenting a VR experience
>>550433543There's PSVR2, might as well use it.
>>550361443So is Pops the anomaly?
>Belka sells Gebet and Ustio independence>In the span of four months (from August 1991 to December 1991), Recta is shat out by Gebet and half of Ustio is annexed by RatioI want an AC game that covers whatever happened in that clusterfuck.
>>550434318instead of helping his sand island comrades he ran despite his skills, there's still some Belkan blood left in him, watching stuff burn excites them
>>550434353>Ratiois that a real country name? Fucking Ratio?
>>550434565It's a nation of Strangereal-twitter users.
>>550386869The year is 2101. the newest aircraft carrier is launched, accompanied by Arleigh Burke Flight X Block IIILet's be real here, the AEGIS destroyers will be the Navy's B-52s
>>550434050More or less described the majority of VRfags right there. VR is a really expensive piece of equipment and the people who have them, really want to justify the purchase. To see a flight game, one of the biggest franchise of them as well, drop it is blasphemy to them. If something like Ace Combat isn't going to even bother to try and entertain people into getting VR, who else will?
>>550434646>what's the center of your country?>"Oh you know, Centrum"
>>550434924kind of a shame, because VR actually is pretty cool with vehicle games, but the technical compromises required for a non-vomit inducing experience means PA would have to sacrifice any kind of actual large scale ambition and just do AC7:2
>>550434646>Mons>Cor>Ratio>Sapin>RectaThis side of the continent can't name anything for shit
>>550409412BF2:MC is not the same as BF2, I think
>>550404351>I have no idea who Georg isThe guy in the Hornet that fires the missile
>>550435892Is there a lore reason why people blame trigger, the only guy who is skilled enough to have 100% pinpoint accuracy, instead of the amateur who is literally right behind him at this fucking moment?
>>550434924I mean VR's got Alyx, Beatsaber, whatever modders are doing with Skyrim/Fallout, and 3D JAV porn. That's an okay library to justify a budget or secondhand model on top of a rig beefy enough to handle the games. Maybe.God, I'd forgotten how much I hated Oculus for selling out to Facebook. The VR space is like a decade behind where it could have been if they hadn't burned all their good will and positive buzz by ensuring no one would want to support the thing for years.
>>550436231Nah but as long as you played 5 you can figure out the answer easily.Which isOsea never fully purged all the Belkan simps from the military and government
>>550436231After 7 DLC I headcanon that a significant part of the osean big wigs just fucking hates aces and tries to hammer any nails that sticks out
>>550435118>>550436564VR needs to be like $100-200 at most before it can get anywhere mainstream. Who's going to choose VR headsets over a GPU (or nowadays a decent amount of RAM)? The GPU and RAM are prerequisites to even get the VR set-up working. Until it gets to be that cheap, it will forever remain a niche product.
>>550436564No Man's Sky to if you can put up with some jank, too.
>>550427264I just think it's kinda nice for Count to not out Trigger as Harling's killer to the whole team
>>550436231Osean generals already recognized Trigger's potential and had him sent to 444 to lead their drone finding suicide missions. It's why they were so quick to give him a pardon and a transfer away from Spare when they were ready to commit to the LRSSG spearhead.
>>550327547I was about to say "I'm pretty sure i've seen us shrug off drop tanks in AC0" but then I realized I was thinking about one of the DCS animations
>>550436971>Osean generals already recognized Trigger's potential and had him sent to 444 to lead their drone finding suicide missions.this is probably the reason they never fully disclosed that Trigger killed Harling even to the LRSSG, they wanted him back to proper military someday and ruining his good name would make it hard to do so.
>>550437065Your thinking of 5 where we do have drop tanks and you got like 2 seconds to see them drop on certain levelsUnless your playing Solitaire and you can drop your drop tanks twice.
cute!~
>>550437479>SolitaireI fucking hate this mission on behalf of kid me, i'm way too stupid to do anything other than shooting planes with missiles for funny explosions back then and this mission filtered me until I quit, also Razgriz debut is wasted on a fucking photography minigame is insane.
>>550435551At least they have names, unlike every country in Usea except Erusea.
>>550435551Wielvakia is fucking awesome though, and probably a good place to live since nothing seems to happen east of Ustio and Sapin.
>>550436714The original Kickstarter for Rift was asking for $300 ($275 unassembled) from backers and came with a copy of Doom 3. Realistically the things might've retailed for $350, big sales discounts would bring them back down to $300, and a budget or "Lite" model could've shot for $250.After the buyout, Facebook priced the launch model at $600 in 2016. We were cheated from great things.
>>550436656Well the previous war with Yukes most likely ended with a purge of the big wigs that supported a hidden coup (Appelrouth just standing in for Harling?) so...
>>550438370and now palmer lucky is trying to grift off the MiC by selling the DoD temu missiles with a 300% markup
>>550438364probably sucked off all of the IQ and Aura from its neighbors, I wouldn't dare invade anything with that kind of name
>>550437948Then Grim kills you on that mission if you aren't careful.
>>550438762yeah, what the fuck is wrong with our wingmen AI on that mission? I did some testing and fly in a straight line but these fuckers are spinning all around the place, and now they suddenly have crash hitbox? AC5 wingmen are weird.
>>550439086Its not just that missionBartlett F-4 can also kill you. It looks like someone forgot to fully check the code and missed some things.
>>550439760It's mostly missions with scripted wingmen movement like the four horsemen, journey home and your webm related canyon mission. I don't understand why they need the 'scripted movement' status on solitaire though.
I wonder how deep the Belkan infiltration is in 5. They definitely got some mid-rank in there but what about the generals and admirals alike?
>>550430543never EVER; the last things you would ever want in your hobbies are pahjeets and/or chinks>b-b-but there already a lot of chinese fans who play ace combat!!dont care, dont need anymore
>>550441520I would take 3 trillion chinks over one pajeet and it isnt even close. The chinese at least share civilizational aspects with glorious Nippon and can design and manufacture an actual combat jet without 35 years of kickbacks on a subpar design ahem Tejas ahem
Exhaust heat blur erotic.
>>550436714>>550438370cheap VR isn't going to happen anytime soon besides the occasional good deal on a used Quest 2 or WMR headset, there is just too much you'd have to compromise in order to even sell one at sub 300 dollars
Speculation online that the WSO sequence in the trailer will be the "tutorial" mission, letting the player get to grips with flight controls, missiles, flares, clouds, radar a la BF3's "Going Hunting" mission.
>>550443805>will be the "tutorial" missionIt'd better be co-op, I want the bantz.
Fighting with a friend on who gets to be Rex and then killed in the tutorial sounds kinda sick
>>550444468Still wondering how thats gonna work. Will they need to devise a separate campaign solely for coop?
So, what does Yuktobanians even do?
>>550444826Yuktobanian things, don't worry about it.
>>550444826Build outlandish submarines so that mute autists in planes have something to kill to get their credibility going.
>>550444826Maths homework.
>>550444694>Still wondering how thats gonna work.Do we know how Infinity's PvE missions worked?
>>550444826Making Scinfaxi 4, this time with blackjack and hookers
>>550444826Be erotic succubi that wring patriotic Osean/Erusean/Usean men dry for personal and political gain
>>550444826communism
>>550445001Two teams fighting over one big catch and it's just a point competition.... wasn't it?
>>550440752Given the kangaroo trial Wardog was given, I think most, if not the entire, upper echelon of Osean command was infiltrated. Probably still had some remnants in the ranks by the time of 7 too.
>>550444826casually dismantle nukes like it's a weekend garage project
The IUN-PKF isn't involved in the Sotoan invasion because they aren't threatening Osean interests
>>550446121if I had to guess Osea was the backbone of the PKF but after Lighthouse they aren't in a condition to project power anymore
are belkans more like germans or jews?
>>550446474So the Albatross might be a decommissioned Osean carrier transferred to PKF...
That certainly was an escort mission
>>550447927I'm going to say it AC5 is overrated, easily the worst game in the numbered series with the only good coming from it being how it laid the ground work and provided the bones to build AC0.
Pilot character models actually physically moving around in the cockpit is so cool. Wonder if they base it on what TGT you've selected on padlock, or maybe where you're physically moving the camera via stick.
>sukhoi planes the bad guy planes again
>>550448309I counted the missions years ago, and 7 or 24% of 5's missions are "gimmick" missions, ie that radar one, Four Horseman etc, and three where you don't even get real weapons. Compared to 4 which had 2, the balloon one and the cruise missile one, Zero which had none, and 7 which had two but they're not that bad, Faceless Soldier's altitude restriction and Magic Spear's silo bombing. Compared to the other games, 5's gimmicks were annoying and just made replaying levels worse.
May I interest you all in some liveries based on US Army's Strangereal?
>>550448487>Su-57>does a thrust vectoring manuever to shoot at youThey really liked that one scene from Top Gun Maverick huh?
>>550449385If you're counting faceless soldier than 0's flight to Avalon dam should qualify, no?Although it's pretty much a straight hallway for dramatic effect compared to the ravines in 4 and 7
>>550447052It fits their naming scheme of carriers being named after birds>>550445258Hell with Clemens being pretty much a General Resources asset I wouldn't be shocked if GR was aiming to infiltrate Osean high command to try and pivot it to buying GR's military products over Grunder.And the war lasting longer meant more chances for GR to get their claws into Osea
>>550449920I didn't count superweapon fights, bossfights, or tunnel/canyon runs. I think I counted Faceless Soldier because it's the entire mission, and popping up to take out the summit targets is part of it, but it's pretty marginal sure.
Remind me again, for 7's S rank medals do I need to get them on Normal, Hard, and Ace; or will getting all S ranks on Ace give me the other two medals as well?
>>550449385the gimmics are unbearable but its other things as well that just make 5 a miserable experience.>planes having fixed special weapons while simultaneously making planes more expensive than they were in 4 mainly because you need to buy up to 4 of them to outfit the entire squadron>forcing you to grind a plane to get a variant with appropriate SPWs.>Not having enough missiles both special and normal for some missions as the game was designed in a way that relies on your wingman whos AI is largely incompetent at such a task.AC8 is shaping up to be a similar set up to 5>giving the player a squadron and seemingly being more character focusedI just hoped they still retained the lessons they learned with 0 and 6 to prevent it from being a similar shit show to 5.
>>550449802Sukhois have been psm'ing on player characters since ace combat 4.
>Hrimfaxi, brother of Scinfaxi, Heir to the Faxi lineage
>>550452109Bring LASM for a special dialogue where Chopper didn't read ship identification chart
best girl
I can't wait for the Trimfaxi to make its debut as the 3rd Yuktobanian giga submarine 5 levels down the road! I'm enjoying 5 a lot, but it really feels like your ammo is super restricted though, a shame they got rid of resupplying, it kinda sucks having to forgo wanting to kill some targets in favor of just beelining through to mission objectives, less score, less money, and overall less freedom on some missions. I am loving the mission variety though, much better early on compared to 4's "score X and wait Y minutes" for like 70% of the game, or whatever it felt like.
>>550452987Isn't Alicorn also a 'faxi?
>>550453269I don't know what that is, or at least I don't remember it from 1-4? Certainly haven't seen it in 5 yet I think?
>>550444826I mean, other than being "WE'RE TOTALLY HELPING GUYS, TRUST!" since AC0, what else are they going to do?
>>550453269>>550453412
>>550452109I love how the Stovies casually allow everyone near the Chandelier for no fucking reason whatsoever, might as well hijack it while we're there.
>>550453412it's the sub you had to bomb back in AC2, kind of an obscure detail desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-UNgLCyGUNow this was a cozy song>>550453895I thought that was the dragonet or dragonnet or whatever it was
>>550449802>4 man squadron that all fly f-18s>both have stylized helmets to distinguish them from each otheri dont think its just that scene they liked
>>550449576Mirin' that middle camo.
>>550454310there's a 2nd one if you get the other ending in 2
>>550437659https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7NrJqV7i2k
>>550442824Are they doing the heat blur properly this time? The one in 7 is pretty lacking, like it's just rising up and not being pushed out.
>>550454336Which is kind of annoying to me because I never actually liked Top Gun all that much. It's too... Hollywood.
>"MR VICE PRESIDENT, GET DOWN!" mission
>>550456854>it actually was:(
>AC1 - Usea>AC2 - Usea>AC3 - Usea>AC4 - Usea>AC7 - Usea>AC8 - UseaImagine living in fucking Usea lmao
Pretty
will he ever be surpassed, buddies?
I'm gonna be honest the first person cutscenes shit really bothers me. I hope its not for EVERY single cutscene involving the player character. Shit like diving into the roundtable just doesn't look as cool from the cockpit.Also, the Block III should have been the hero plane instead of just the regular degular ass hornet.Also please PLEASE PLEEEEAAASE give us a next gen Tomcat that isn't the XFA-27. I love that super plane but the TGM Tomcat was my dream come true. Tomcat 21 PLEAAASSEEEE
It was the Belkans all along?!
>>550460174XVF-12A would also be neat.
>>550460521Yep
>>550460521cool mission, another clenching tunnel section
>>550460973I'm impressed a region/country so far off is masterminding operations throughout the whole damn continent and smuggling planes through to Yuktobania in such a scale lol
>>550461207Very soon you will witness the CUM hanging over Oured
>>550460643>12what's that?
>>550462263>XVF-12Ahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_XFV-12
>>550461653It's more that a bunch of Belkans got Paperclip'd after the war or just generally moved on to other countries now that Belka was a wartorn shithole. 5 is essentially you putting down the last influential group of Belkans who are still turbo butthurt about the war.
Unrelated but I'm confused with US Navy new frigate project>We need a new ship>Let's pick something off the shelf>Modify it so it barely resembles the original design>The similarities are reduced, and the cost ballooned up>What the fuck, this isn't what we wanted! Cancel!>We need a new shipIs it something that only affects them or was there any similar story from the flyboys?
>>550462762F-104 & F-102 / F-106
Damn it looks nice
>>550361207I redid the placement of the stars, the colors and the aspect ratio of the flag. not sure if it's accurate to the one we saw in the trailer or not
>>550457883It's not unrealistic, considering our own Middle East.
Woah it's ODST
>>550462762I think the only ones who didn't fuck up their procurement are the marines. Guess when you really don't have the budget to fuck around you don't get to find out.
>>550435892The Hornet that fired the missile was a drone Hornet, not manned. You can tell by the light on it; it’s why that light next to the cockpit is prominent in some of the intro shots for the drone Hornets in Faceless Soldier. It’s the same ones.I just assume in AC world, no one knew about drones of existing fighter models that could dogfight like that; only reason no one in game calls it out. Kind of ignores the ZOE stuff but oh well.
>>550462762The big problem was they kept adding on more and more stuff on top of the design to the point where it was unrealistic as a frigate design. I’ll pray they fire someone at the design bureau and that this will serve as a lesson for a better frigate class, like how the Seawolfs were for the Virginias.>>550467037It’s hard to fuck up when you’re procuring hand me downs from the other branches
>>550467876Was the V-22 Harling was "flying" a drone as well? Seems real convenient for it to turn around while it's communications are unintelligible and it also seemed convenient for the Eruseans to leave a ready to fly bird unsupervised after an aerial assault.
Woah this looks just like a floppy disc
>>550468324I don't think it's the fault of whoever was thinkering with the design. The fault lies on whoever decided they should buy something another country made while not loosening the regulations required to be part of the US Navy. I guess the fault lies with whoever decided to buy a foreign design out of desperation in the first place.
>>550467876>Kind of ignores the ZOE stuff but oh wellI don't think Belkan involvement in the '98 coup was ever revealed to the public.
It's always sad to see ships go down :(
>>550469853Willing to bet ten pirate dubloons that the Endurance is gonna eat shit just like this in AC8
>>550469853Fvark...
Is the FCU seeking revenge in Ace Combat 8 or rather seeking someone to avenge them?
>>550468601If I'm not mistaken, the reason why they even bought a ready design is mainly to cut down on costs and development time. A FREMM with extra stuff stacked on top is theoretically much cheaper and quicker to produce than building a design from the ground up
>>550470512It would be if it didn't need to have so much shit bolted on to meet US Navy safety standards and it's requirements. It seems like a poorly thought out idea that was rushed and quite a few people saw it coming back when it was announced.
>>550461207I've always felt two ways about Final Option because I think it's a good concept and fantastic from a narrative point of view but the mission itself is boring as fuck because where the only challenging part of it is the last 30 seconds of it. It's aggravating because this series has done missions that are purely challenge flying in the past (like the ravine missions in AC2) and this one has none of it.
>>550470345>Another fucking tight tunnel, but this time you get planes shooting you from the front and Hamilton shooting your assFuck you too game, I'm already not nervous flying through this lmao>Title dropsEndgame time
>>550468387Probably not. The story's implication and such are there for the drones, it's why the random Hornet drones get such a dramatic entrance in Faceless Soldier; they don't spell it out well but it's implying that these are the drones that framed you and killed Harling. The story doesn't really give us any suggestion that the V-22 could be a drone. The conversation between Avril and Cossette debating on whether Harling wanted to destroy or protect the space elevator suggests that he was in control, it's the whole thing with Harling's Mirror and all that. If the game wanted us to think the V-22 was a drone too, they would've left a clue to that, rather than have two characters debating the opposite.>>550468961Osea was apparently the cause of them starting it so at this point who knows.>>550468601The original design looked fine, it's just the Navy did what the Navy does and keeps trying to load too much stuff onto it. We're already piling obscene amount of extra stuff on top of the Arleigh Burkes to the point they're getting top-heavy.
>>550470326Well there was a shot of an explosion near the characters on the deck. And AC5 had those shots of the Kestrel getting hit by a missile. Nothing's really going to live up to the Kestrel though.
game is too hard on ACE
>>550471689Kaboom
>>550472743Which one?
>>550472743Game is too easy on Ace, especially 7.
>Nvidia cutting GPU production Buddies, if you're planning any upgrades for AC8, this is more or less your last chance for a while.
>>550473196Yeah, I'm thinking Grim...
>>550473196I'm just gonna die instead :)
Fantastic game, honestly loved it as much as I did 3, while it did have its quirks that were a bit frustrating, the story was fun, campy as that one anon said, and also very touching, it was so much longer than 4, but it never really lost my interest. I feel like the planes actually felt much more different between each other than before, I'm not sure how to put it into words exactly, but the dynamic or weight of them? Anyways they felt good to play with, so I'm very satisfied overall with this entry.
>>550473196Nyeeh, I'm sure my rice cooker PC can handle it.
>>550473196I have a 9070xt and a 7800x3d. Hopefully that's good enough for 1440p. I'd prefer 144 fps but might have to settle for 70ish
>>550473516Now on to Zero
>>550473196This is what kills me. AC is the only game series I still care about enough to spend real money on. I was able to get AC7 to run well enough (720 mid settings) on my T480 but I'm sure this won't be possible with AC8. I was already thinking about building a decent rig before the announcement but now I honestly don't know.
>>550473196>upgrade from 10yr old parts, excluding gpu and case>used ps5>gabecube?Any way, my wallet cries...
>>550473926Steam Machine may be the saving grace here depending on how that's priced and how much stock Gabe has in reserve.
>>550473830Yup, time to boot up The Belk-Wait a minute how'd that get in there
>>550474249Oh No
>>550474249Fucking chad
>>550462762The Super Hornet only has 10% part commonality with the legacy Hornet.
Ace combat 2 has my favourite soundtrack of the entire series. Orchestral tracks are neat, but as its reboot showed me, if overused they can overstay their welcome and become really annoying after some time.
>>550447927Are you playing on a PS2? If not why are you playing at default emu settings? And not using the HD HUD?
Bear Tracks.
Finally getting some free time over the holidays. How are the /aceg/ shootouts looking lately?>>550475357I like AC2's as well, it's great. Tons of great rock tracks but with a lot of nice variations that give it some sweet variety.
>>550474249Ayo???
>>550467876I know it was a drone but thing is after the lets start over for a 3rd time that is what Georg got turned into in that mission a drone.Its kind of a joke we know what his role originally was and what happened in the final version.Same for the rest of the game it still has many left over things showing up in missions like M11 has two things that really stand out. One you don't connect the dots till SP1 & 2
>>550477153Yeah 7's story had a ton of work that had to be done. It's definitely messy but it's a very enjoyable one all the same, and I will cut some slack with how hard it was to get the game greenlit at all. I appreciate the ambition they had.
>>550475357I think AC7 had a good balance in this regard, it had hype orchestra, rock, ac3-style mindfucks like the arsenal bird's first theme and kino like the Alicorn suite and Daredevil/Hush
>Year of our Lord, 2025>Every man and his dog is making plane addon mods for AC7 with comically overtuned weapons with unique effects and proper animations and the whole nine yards>The only Harrier mod still relies on swapping an existing plane, uses the Erusean NPC model, is thus not animated properly and is all-round rather naff>Nobody in the past two years decided to try and take a crack at it againMan.
>>550473196We need to dropkick those AIfags into the sun
I'm getting mogged by a GBA game, and it's not even close lmao>>550475531I did change the emulator's aspect ratio so it's 16:9, but that's about it, some anon had recommended me to get the HD UI mod but I just wanted to play the game as is
>>550473196Doesn't really matter much the game will still be made to match PS5 specs Do you have an SSD and at least a Rayzen 5 & 2060RTX? Then you'll be just fine
>>550478021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeMBJq6WgFkSuch a shame this amazing remix is locked to MPThey really should have gave us a special mission to go with the TGM plane DLC then they could have used the music on that level.
>>550473196just wait for the new chinese GPUs
>>550479431Nah no thanks I'll just take my American spyware instead of Chink spyware. I'll go with the evil I know instead of the evil I don't trust.
>>550479431>buying a $1000 GPU to mine bitcoin for the CCP while they gather blackmail on you
>>550448309I don't think anyone who has played them all would disagree, it was a low point made worse by coming directly after 4. None of the main games have worse gameplay, though it is better than AH. And 5's story was the worst until 7 came along.
>>550448309>>550480142I would say that it's not overrated solely by the fact that I haven't seen it get much praise to begin with especially here. the anti war themes might've had been a bit particularly heavy handed at times but I can't help but like the small moments like The Journey Home being sung at multiple points during the story or the incredible climax that was the Unsung War, and Chopper's death is by far the most impactful death in the entire series
>>5504801425 story was cheese but its still better than story that unfolds in the 6's cutscenes that was the worst story. Gameplay story was fine the tank crew story was fine
Yuktobania tries to advertise its new superplane program to potential customershttps://youtu.be/bkDcXG9T9yg?si=0y-7aNdlnVb6m3dd
>>5504809386's story was doodoo but you can just skip them. Story and gameplay belonged on different realms.If you don't like 5 or 7's story, you can't skip it. It follows you into the gameplay.
Worst thing about 5's story is that Thunderhead just fell for Belkan crap and never came back. I want redemption arc in my cheese goddamnit, same with Bandog in 7.
>>550473196Surely a 6800XT is enough for 8 if I can run 7 at 300fps. Surely.
>>550448309I think 5 was good, and 7 was the worst.I think 7 needed more missions and to flesh out the characters more
>>550482118Speaking of which: what the hell is the resident Superplane of AC8 going to be? And the superweapon that inevitably allowed Sotoa's conquest, for that matter?The two will be connected. Every superplane's unique SPWs are miniaturised versions of that game's superweapons.>Morgan has Excalibur's laser and a massive airburst missile that's basically a mini-nuke>Falken has Arkbird's laser>Nosferatu has Aigaion's multi-missiles and Chandelier's railgun>Raven has Arsenal Bird's drones
>>550474130I'll be shocked if that thing comes in at under a grand at this point. I applaud Valve's efforts but it came at the worst possible time. An AIO pc optimized for gaming with Linux is a wonderful idea but damn.
>>550480142I did make a point to say numbered series I never played AH as just from what i've seen it just seemed like too much of a departure from the rest of the games so I ended up skipping it entirely.>>550482893although I agree 7 has its flaws, besides like 2-3 missions I dont find 7 unfun to play like 5 is. And I also dont find the story as bad as other people here have said, maybe its because I also really enjoyed 6 which had its own degree of campiness but besides the mage squadron sections it never really bothered me.
>>550483704What does X-02 get? Used by fucking losers?
>>550482893I think 5 is good on a first run because of the production value and the "epic" story. It gets worse on every replay. Sea of Chaos is just about the only mission that's fun to replay.7 is worse on a first run because the story is kinda bad and stitched together but it has enough good missions to be a fun replay.
>>550482164>I want redemption arc>in 5 and 7Anon did you miss the part where we are court-martialed then redeemed by being the super awesome protagonist?Or the part where enemy pilots realize they are fighting for a poorly written antagonist and are redeemed by joining us in a coalition against the warmongering bad guys?Those games games are built on redemption. Though to be fair those, and other events in the story, aren't really 'arcs' they just kinda happen.
>>550485104Well it's Er*sean and those fuckers never actually managed to come up with their own superweapons, stealing Stonehenge outright, copying Megalith directly from Fortress Intolerance, and buying a super-submarine off the Yuktobanians.
>>550483704The Sotoan lady general's wheelchair
>>550482127Its easy I just tune it out and blow shit up instead
>>550487263They better add the OC planes from X or the semi-OCs from 3.You endgame options being the F-22 or Su-57 again, a decade after 7, would kill the boner.
From all this we can determine anons have different opinions.
>>550488117Yeah but every opinion that isn't mine is wrong.
any of you buddies happen to have a high resolution version of the ISAF flag? I have something in mind
>>550487263They will never make me like nuCOFFIN. The Falken's cockpit design is the closest I will accept. The Raven's cockpit view just being a shitty VR headset is an insult.
>>550487742>X OCThey have no reason to not be in the game they were doing trail runs in 2020 its been 9 years these planes should be in full production.>semi-OCs from 3I hope so I really do we're just 11 years from 3 I would expect most of GR planes to be at the here we're going to let Rex test out this updated plane for us stage.If we don't get them then we must annoy PA until they give us the OC planes we want.
>>550488325I got a patch good enough?
>>550486730And 8, we will be redeemed for pretending to be Rex (by being the super awesome protagonist.I'm willing to bet the Sotoans will be redeemed when they join us against whoever is manipulating them too.>>550487263Sexy.>>550487742>>550483704We need Fenrir and it's LSWM.
Was the ost Faceless Soldier originally meant to be the final boss theme before Daredevil was made?
>>550488608Only two I got
>>550488674>against whoever is manipulating them toocan we not do this again
>>550488608I just needed a higher res version of this if it was available somewhere, maybe I could just upscale it but finding a higher res version is always better
>>550488674inb4 we get a playable version of Fenrir's microwave beam
>>550488926Has anyone thought of editing the bottom image so it looks like the fucked up triforce?
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>>550489041>minor state invade another across an entire oceanThere's only 1 trailer to go off but the whole thing is far more sus than Osea geting retaliation to their neocon shit.
>>550493946That can easily handwaved by saying the Sotoans invested heavily into their naval power.
Prepping the new thread, buddies.>>550489296With how clear and simple it is, I think upscaling and cropping it is actually your best bet. Weird that no one seems to have thought "maybe people may like a bigger version of the damn thing".
Do you think Kono would use any Hughes Aircraft designs in Ace Combat?
so, which one of our flightsquad in 8 will do the sacrifice ala chopper
Hey guys, first time here. I played Ace combat 3, 4 5, Zero, 6 and I'm on 7 right now, at Mission 15, am I wrong to say the campaign is really undermined by the amount of CAS missions?Also my fave super plane is the Nosferatu
>>550486730fuck off, bolt.
>>550507928I wouldn't say so, there's not particularly more of them compared to 4 or 6.
AC7 really was a hail mary throw from the end zone that ended up winning the game, there was a stretch of time from 2017-2018 where one bamco executive having a bad day could have shitcanned 7 and that would have been it for AC. A nightmarish existence where arcade fighter jet games would have been left to the devices of "Lilith from Oregon" type indie developers.
>>550515386>"Lilith from Oregon" type indie developersdo the project wingman devs fall into this category?
>>550517118no arby is normal and flyawaynow is just a bog standard cringey socal asian
>>550515386I really want someone to do a full multi-hour sit down with the team and get the full story of how hard 7's development must have been. It really sounds like they barely convinced the higher ups to do it. Come to think of it, if it was most other dev companies it probably wouldn't have; we're lucky Bandai-Namco barely has any IPs left that work.
>>550473196This twisted game needs to be reset. I upgraded last year, at least.
>>550518313Won't happen no Japanese company would ever allow anyone to interview about what amounts to a loss of face. But you got it backwards bamco was the one that kept them going and dropping money at them. One of the suits wanted the series to keep going on no matter what. If for nothing more than they new infinity made them a lot of money and he wanted the cash to keep flowing.
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